| 00:00.06 | oscurochu | I have a very embarrassing problem. I have no idea how to type on a qwerty keyboard, unless it is directly in front of me. I do not know how to change the keyboard layout to dvorak without using the command line. i cannot type on the command line because i dont know qwerty well enough to just switch layouts |
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| 00:02.03 | Epakai | loadkeys dvorak -> nraet.fo ekrpat |
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| 00:10.37 | oscurochu | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:11.38 | Epakai | just bang on keys and use backspace until you get it right? |
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| 00:13.38 | cruncher | Epakai :D |
| 00:13.48 | cruncher | cant stop laughing now |
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| 00:14.14 | vzr | ls -lha |
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| 00:15.59 | Epakai | you only need to find 11 characters |
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| 00:21.25 | cruncher | oscurochu, so you want to set dvorak using the desktop/gui? |
| 00:21.43 | cruncher | oscurochu, what SO and DE are you using? |
| 00:22.56 | oscurochu | i figured it out now. thank you |
| 00:23.30 | oscurochu | um, i thought i did |
| 00:24.22 | cruncher | oscurochu, and now i deleted already all the text i wanted to send you :) |
| 00:24.37 | oscurochu | i just rebooted, typed my password in, and it was set to dvorak. now i am logged in and its back to qwerty |
| 00:24.44 | oscurochu | =( |
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| 00:25.26 | oscurochu | im on gnome |
| 00:27.04 | cruncher | ok, i dont know by memory for gnome, but get to the keyboard settings, add a layout, probably you want "English (US)", then select "English Dvorak" |
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| 00:28.46 | oscurochu | i finally found it. thanks!!! |
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| 00:29.03 | cruncher | you are welcome |
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| 00:44.22 | ||JD|| | hey, can I have some help debugging my printer? It looks fine at cups but still unable to print anything |
| 00:44.31 | ||JD|| | Got this log http://pastebin.com/dGjWnFzU |
| 00:50.49 | neldogz | I have an rsync ingore file specified like this: --exclude-from=/opt/rsync/ignore_list where .phoronix-test-suite is in that ingore_list but its not being ignored. Other folders like .adobe are being ignored. What gives? |
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| 01:58.37 | farakat | hey I need help installing Lollypop in Debian. I'm using repo from launchpad and it says some index files failed to download |
| 01:58.51 | farakat | or is it only compatible with ubuntu? |
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| 02:01.00 | rhl | Is this an appropriate place to ask about debian packaging? I'm writing a deb package, and my code depends on MPI so I want an MPICH and OpenMPI subpackage. I believe i've gotten the control file down, I'm not sure how to specify the rules file to build twice with two different MPI's ... |
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| 02:21.22 | nmschulte | I need to buy a new laptop, and I'm looking for help finding something Debian friendly. My current laptop, a Sager NP8265/Clevo P150SM, has worked well but the mainboard is failing. I like the discrete graphics, SATA3, USB3, 3x video out, intel haswell, LPDDR3, iwlwifi WLAN, etc. |
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| 02:21.44 | nmschulte | Sager's current offerings only include NVidia GPUs. |
| 02:21.51 | nmschulte | Which is a turn off. |
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| 02:29.24 | Hello71 | primarily the concern is Linux kernel |
| 02:29.39 | Hello71 | so you're looking for something with decent standards-compliant firmware |
| 02:29.41 | Hello71 | (i.e. none) |
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| 02:41.41 | relipse | can someone please help me, my server is being attacked i'm getting thousands of 191.96.249.54 - - [31/Oct/2016:02:40:59 +0000] "POST /xmlrpc.php HTTP/1.0" 200 560 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible: MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0)" what do I do |
| 02:42.01 | dvs | iptables? |
| 02:42.18 | relipse | i tred iptables -A INPUT -s 191.96.249.53 -p TCP -j DROP but it's still happening |
| 02:42.50 | dvs | UDP too? |
| 02:43.48 | relipse | ok i deleted by access.log and then i did touch access.log |
| 02:43.52 | relipse | and now its not happening any more? |
| 02:44.09 | missmbob | did you restart apache after deleting it? |
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| 02:44.36 | relipse | no |
| 02:44.43 | missmbob | then you haven't really done anything |
| 02:44.56 | missmbob | the old file is still open and in use by apache2 |
| 02:44.59 | relipse | crap it is still happening |
| 02:45.10 | relipse | how do i stop this attacker? |
| 02:45.13 | missmbob | yeah, no kidding. dont just go deleting stuff |
| 02:45.37 | missmbob | you'll have better luck in #netfilter which is the home of iptables |
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| 02:49.09 | Hello71 | why do you think you are being "attacked" |
| 02:51.02 | missmbob | i'd probably use nft add rule foobarchain ip saddr 191.96.249.53 drop |
| 02:51.25 | dvs | you dont need a protocol? |
| 02:52.47 | missmbob | dvs: no. default matches all. you can specify if you want to block only, say, icmp. but there's no need for everything |
| 02:53.52 | missmbob | dvs: i'm starting to appreciate nftables. |
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| 03:19.31 | keltim | is ip address the filter you really want here? are they all from that address? |
| 03:20.07 | keltim | it seems like filtering on "/xmlrpc.php" would likely be more accurate |
| 03:20.47 | keltim | unless that is a legitimate url |
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| 03:22.34 | missmbob | sounds like wordpress exploit attempt. |
| 03:23.25 | keltim | I mean a POST to /xmlrpc.xml is pretty damn specific, if that's not you, block it |
| 03:24.10 | pingfloyd | https://www.saotn.org/huge-increase-wordpress-xmlrpc-php-post-requests/ |
| 03:24.13 | missmbob | what do you think we were talking about doing? |
| 03:25.46 | keltim | well, it looks like he only blocked an ip address to me, if that |
| 03:26.07 | pingfloyd | blocking ip isn't really much of a long term solution |
| 03:26.58 | pingfloyd | here's some other ways to mitigate it http://forum.ait-pro.com/forums/topic/wordpress-xml-rpc-ddos-protection-protect-xmlrpc-php-block-xmlrpc-php-forbid-xmlrpc-php/ |
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| 04:15.49 | plorph | hello, so im trying to install package libbase58-dev but im not sure whats the appropriate way to do it. I have debian jessie and simply ran "apt-get install libbase58-dev" but got unable to locate message, any help? |
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| 04:17.04 | csh-harmful | plorph: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libbase58-dev |
| 04:17.22 | csh-harmful | not available in jessie as you can see |
| 04:18.25 | plorph | ok, im still not familiar with package management, how can I tell its not for jessie? |
| 04:18.42 | plorph | and is there a way I can get the package anyways by messing with sources or something? |
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| 04:20.27 | Epakai | you can try to build a backport, but there may be other dependency issues, the bot can instruct you /msg dpkg ssb |
| 04:21.17 | plorph | hm ok |
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| 04:22.15 | nmschulte | Will the new macbook pro be more Debian compatible? |
| 04:22.27 | Igel | no. |
| 04:22.48 | Epakai | i skipped checking backports.debian.org because there isn't one for libbase58-dev, but that's normally the next step if you need a newer package |
| 04:22.54 | doflamingo | hello all how to stop modem-manager-gui asking password everytime? |
| 04:22.56 | Igel | forget apple |
| 04:24.02 | Igel | get a lenovo .. for the price of the new macbook, you can get a 1tb ssd with 64gigs of ram with 4k resolution.. which runs debian like a champ.. |
| 04:24.38 | csh-harmful | Igel: you have a particular model in mind? |
| 04:27.41 | Epakai | doflamingo: add a nopasswd line for that command to your sudoer's file, here's a guide http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-running-sudo-command-without-a-password/ |
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| 04:33.42 | doflamingo | Epakai thank.. i will try |
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| 04:43.15 | missmbob | a laptop with 64G ram. kind of makes me hate rich people |
| 04:45.26 | doflamingo | Epakai I think that article trying to disable asking password for 'all' applications.. |
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| 04:46.49 | ||JD|| | I use 8GB on my desktops and never run out of RAM, 64GB wtf |
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| 04:48.50 | missmbob | ||JD||: thus the misplaced hate :P |
| 04:48.54 | Epakai | doflamingo: it isn't, but you can read 'man sudoers' and search for NOPASSWD for more examples and explanation |
| 04:49.21 | nmschulte | yeah, I won't be going all out like that. 16 GB is plenty for what I do. |
| 04:49.38 | nmschulte | The P70 ThinkPads looked okay. Dell's Precision 15 and 17 look nice. |
| 04:49.57 | missmbob | the thing with NOPASSWD is that i has to be after %sudo because of how priorities in the sudoers file work |
| 04:50.08 | nmschulte | I think I'll get a Xeon w/ ECC RAM; not sure I can justify the 1575, but 1545 looks nice. |
| 04:50.29 | nmschulte | I wonder if nouveau works well w/ the Quadro Mx000M cards? |
| 04:50.47 | nmschulte | Otherwise, I'd prefer an AMD FirePro, but they only come w/ 17" models, and I dont' know if I like that. |
| 04:51.00 | nmschulte | MAcBook Pro has the new AMD Radeon Pro cards |
| 04:51.16 | nmschulte | And Core-i7s, was thinking they may be mroe linux friendly now. |
| 04:51.28 | missmbob | nmschulte: a laptop with ECC ram and Xeon with 64G ram. are you being for real? |
| 04:51.30 | nmschulte | They weren't when I got this hardware during haswell end of cycle. |
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| 04:51.43 | nmschulte | I did not say 64 GB RAM, but yes, Xeon and ECC are good. |
| 04:51.47 | missmbob | nmschulte: i don't think anyone believes you |
| 04:52.02 | nmschulte | Believes me about what? |
| 04:52.07 | missmbob | getting said machine |
| 04:52.11 | nmschulte | ? |
| 04:52.25 | nkuttler | !ot |
| 04:52.25 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 04:52.26 | nmschulte | When you use said machine for a living, it makes sense. |
| 04:52.40 | nmschulte | Nah, this is OT: I am asking about debian compatible hardware. |
| 04:52.49 | nmschulte | Keeping DFSG in mind. |
| 04:53.05 | missmbob | i use my laptop for a living and it has 6G ram. what you're saying is absolutely unreasonable and insane. and likely a lie. |
| 04:53.06 | nmschulte | They're going off about cost of hardware and extreme configurations; not I. |
| 04:53.23 | nmschulte | Read the history missmbob. |
| 04:54.07 | missmbob | nmschulte: i've been in this channel longer than you have. i've read everything you said. |
| 04:54.23 | nmschulte | Then you need glasses. Igel mentioned 64 GB RAM. |
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| 04:56.34 | nmschulte | goodnight all. |
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| 04:57.29 | doflamingo | Epakai but i want disable 'system policy' not sudo password. have you tried modem-manager-gui? |
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| 05:09.57 | linuxuser0815 | is the sudo concept in stretch a different one? on jessie I could just do adduser myusername sudo.... adding myself to sudo group.. after that I could sudo any program. but in stretch I get error that I am not allowed. |
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| 05:23.16 | missmbob | linuxuser0815: you need to log out and back in for it to take effect |
| 05:23.27 | missmbob | linuxuser0815: also you're in the wrong place for stretch support |
| 05:23.34 | missmbob | !tell linuxuser0815 about debian-next |
| 05:25.15 | linuxuser0815 | ok.. I even rebootet after I added myself to sudo group. so the re-logging-in is not the problem. How can I get to debian-next channel (it is invite only) |
| 05:26.20 | missmbob | linuxuser0815: you read the entire factoid. it's on OFTC not freenode |
| 05:33.13 | linuxuser0815 | ooooh.. sorry. ok. thank you very much. |
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| 05:48.47 | pingfloyd | do you even have sudo installed? |
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| 06:03.31 | linuxuser0815 | yes, sudo is installed. |
| 06:06.09 | jelly | linuxuser0815: maybe you forgot to log out and log back in after adding the user to that group |
| 06:06.16 | jelly | maybe I'm not reading the log |
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| 06:10.48 | billytv | Hi there, I'm just trying to install flash plugin for chromium, however I found out pepperflashplugin-nonfree has been removed. In the bug page #833741 said PPAPI flash plugin can be downloaded from adobe, which I already did. But how can I install it manually? It has got libpepflashplayer.so and manifest.json files. |
| 06:10.49 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/833741 in pepperflashplugin-nonfree (open): «pepperflashplugin-nonfree: Feature request?: Download from Adobe instead of Google.»; severity: grave; opened: 2016-08-08; last modified: 2016-10-14. |
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| 06:14.07 | hellhammer | I'm running debian 8 and mate as my DE when i login my DE wont show up whats going on? i cant get anything to pull up its just my wallpaper |
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| 06:14.46 | han-solo | did you try hitting the spacebar? |
| 06:14.53 | hellhammer | yes |
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| 06:16.53 | hellhammer | how do i get mate back? |
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| 06:20.00 | hellhammer | is there anyway i can start mate from the terminal? |
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| 06:25.33 | Nazara | Hi all! I had my elographics touchscreen working fine in jessie, but in testing my Option "InvertX" xorg conf doesn't work anymore |
| 06:25.42 | Nazara | has the proper location moved or has the driver changed? |
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| 06:35.03 | hellhammer | I'm getting "cannot open display" error when i try to start mate whats going on? |
| 06:35.19 | AlexLikeRock | do you have install mate ? |
| 06:35.28 | hellhammer | mate is installed yes |
| 06:35.46 | ransur0t | startx mate-session |
| 06:36.07 | hellhammer | it says startx not found |
| 06:36.18 | AlexLikeRock | you need |
| 06:36.21 | AlexLikeRock | Xorg server |
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| 06:36.40 | ransur0t | are you root? |
| 06:36.44 | hellhammer | yes |
| 06:36.55 | AlexLikeRock | try as normal user |
| 06:37.25 | hellhammer | i did that too |
| 06:37.32 | AlexLikeRock | ok |
| 06:38.06 | AlexLikeRock | apt-get install xorg |
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| 06:39.32 | AlexLikeRock | as root |
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| 06:39.54 | AlexLikeRock | when instalation done: |
| 06:39.56 | hellhammer | i tried that it just hanged on me |
| 06:39.57 | AlexLikeRock | as root |
| 06:40.04 | hellhammer | the terminal froze after i hit enter |
| 06:40.11 | AlexLikeRock | # Xorg -configure |
| 06:40.26 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.35 | hellhammer | the terminal is hanging its just the blinking cursor under what i typed |
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| 06:40.57 | AlexLikeRock | when ? |
| 06:41.03 | AlexLikeRock | at xorg instalation ? |
| 06:41.10 | hellhammer | i can however confirm the computer in question IS conneced to the internet |
| 06:41.11 | hellhammer | yes |
| 06:41.32 | AlexLikeRock | YOU NEED XORG |
| 06:41.37 | AlexLikeRock | restart PC |
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| 06:41.45 | AlexLikeRock | and try one more time |
| 06:42.12 | AlexLikeRock | aptitude install xorg |
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| 06:42.28 | AlexLikeRock | pc are slow ? |
| 06:42.35 | hellhammer | i dont know man |
| 06:42.36 | AlexLikeRock | how much ram they have ? |
| 06:42.41 | hellhammer | its a decent laptop |
| 06:42.44 | hellhammer | its not too old |
| 06:42.48 | AlexLikeRock | ok |
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| 06:42.50 | hellhammer | it only started having issues today |
| 06:44.11 | hellhammer | i can see my mouse moving around and my wallpaper but mate isnt there |
| 06:44.11 | hellhammer | i restarted and relogged in |
| 06:44.32 | AlexLikeRock | somting grong with hardware |
| 06:44.42 | AlexLikeRock | ok |
| 06:44.53 | AlexLikeRock | if you see the mouse |
| 06:45.04 | AlexLikeRock | so, you have Xorg YET |
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| 06:45.07 | AlexLikeRock | no, |
| 06:45.24 | hellhammer | i know its confusing |
| 06:45.46 | AlexLikeRock | Press : |
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| 06:46.18 | hellhammer | ok i pressed ":" |
| 06:46.21 | hellhammer | nothing happened |
| 06:46.36 | AlexLikeRock | ALT + prt scr + K |
| 06:46.41 | AlexLikeRock | or |
| 06:46.57 | AlexLikeRock | ALT + sys rq + K |
| 06:46.59 | hellhammer | i hit alt prnt scrn k |
| 06:47.10 | AlexLikeRock | they go to log out |
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| 06:47.17 | AlexLikeRock | rigth ? |
| 06:47.32 | hellhammer | yes |
| 06:47.43 | AlexLikeRock | search MATE |
| 06:47.46 | AlexLikeRock | as option |
| 06:47.54 | hellhammer | in the terminal? |
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| 06:48.03 | AlexLikeRock | no |
| 06:48.07 | hellhammer | where |
| 06:48.19 | hellhammer | in the login screen? |
| 06:48.21 | hellhammer | mate is there |
| 06:48.35 | hellhammer | mate and xsession but both of them just pull up my wallpaper and no DE |
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| 06:49.16 | AlexLikeRock | like this |
| 06:49.16 | AlexLikeRock | https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/gdm-wayland.png |
| 06:49.25 | ransur0t | check your xorg.log |
| 06:49.31 | hellhammer | how do i do that ransur |
| 06:49.41 | AlexLikeRock | wait ransur0t |
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| 06:50.02 | hellhammer | alex MATE is in that menu for me |
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| 06:50.24 | hellhammer | how do i check that ransur |
| 06:50.25 | AlexLikeRock | choisse |
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| 06:50.32 | AlexLikeRock | wait hellhammer |
| 06:50.50 | AlexLikeRock | choisce an enter to session |
| 06:50.53 | hellhammer | i did |
| 06:50.57 | hellhammer | it doesnt change anything |
| 06:51.04 | hellhammer | its still the wallpaper with no DE |
| 06:51.05 | AlexLikeRock | what happen ? |
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| 06:51.14 | AlexLikeRock | ok |
| 06:51.24 | AlexLikeRock | go to TTY |
| 06:51.24 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:51.24 | AlexLikeRock | p |
| 06:51.30 | AlexLikeRock | press: |
| 06:51.35 | AlexLikeRock | CTRL + ALT + F1 |
| 06:51.45 | AlexLikeRock | enter user |
| 06:51.47 | AlexLikeRock | root |
| 06:51.57 | AlexLikeRock | password : |
| 06:52.03 | AlexLikeRock | (your root pass ) |
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| 06:52.16 | ransur0t | located here /var/log --> xorg.0.log, xorg.1.log, ... |
| 06:52.41 | AlexLikeRock | then you have " # " |
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| 06:53.20 | ransur0t | or ~/.local/share/xorg/ |
| 06:53.37 | hellhammer | how do i check it once im in the directory? |
| 06:53.53 | AlexLikeRock | hellhammer, yo neeed my help ? |
| 06:54.00 | hellhammer | i need everyones help |
| 06:54.13 | AlexLikeRock | do make ? |
| 06:54.17 | AlexLikeRock | i say |
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| 06:54.23 | hellhammer | how do i look at the log ransur0t |
| 06:54.34 | ransur0t | cat <filename> or open in text editor, or nano <filename> |
| 06:55.13 | hellhammer | ok it opened up |
| 06:55.17 | hellhammer | what am i looking for in here |
| 06:55.24 | hellhammer | theres no way i can screenshot this |
| 06:55.28 | ransur0t | look for any error messages |
| 06:55.40 | ransur0t | you can pastebin it for others to read ;) |
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| 06:56.08 | hellhammer | uhhh well i kind of cant |
| 06:56.19 | hellhammer | bc i cant get my desktop environmtne tto load |
| 06:56.31 | hellhammer | how do i scroll up in this |
| 06:56.32 | ransur0t | paste.debian.net |
| 06:56.41 | AlexLikeRock | ransur0t, you are grong , because they can see the mouse cursore |
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| 06:57.05 | ransur0t | never hurts to view the log |
| 06:57.15 | hellhammer | how do i scroll up |
| 06:57.24 | hellhammer | ok i have a plan guys |
| 06:57.25 | ransur0t | page up |
| 06:57.29 | hellhammer | can i boot into a livecd |
| 06:57.37 | ransur0t | can you ssh into it from another pc? |
| 06:57.41 | hellhammer | and grab the log from the filesystem that way |
| 06:57.47 | ransur0t | yes, that would work |
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| 06:59.39 | hellhammer | i got a old crunchbang livecd booting up |
| 07:00.08 | hellhammer | i have a question tho |
| 07:00.12 | ransur0t | hellhammer: in tty, what is output of apt-cache policy mate-core? |
| 07:00.14 | hellhammer | where is mate stored on the filesystem |
| 07:00.26 | hellhammer | idk i had to backout of the OS to boot up the live cd |
| 07:00.32 | hellhammer | let me grab the xorg file real quick |
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| 07:02.03 | hellhammer | any other logs you want me to grab while i got this things guts opened? |
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| 07:03.37 | hellhammer | xorg comin up |
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| 07:04.16 | Dat | i can seem to mount my encrypted drive manually with luksOpen but cant mount at boot |
| 07:04.20 | Dat | any pointers? |
| 07:04.43 | hellhammer | my xorg log ransur0t http://pastebin.com/cnX0nQJz |
| 07:05.12 | ransur0t | you can also take a look in /var/log/messages for anything that grabs your attention |
| 07:06.15 | hellhammer | take a look at that log please |
| 07:06.38 | AlexLikeRock | Dat, do you try update-grup ?? |
| 07:06.43 | jelly | Dat: do you have an entry for it in /etc/crypttab ? |
| 07:07.19 | ransur0t | hellhammer: looks like everything is ok w/xorg |
| 07:07.30 | hellhammer | ransur0t> hellhammer: in tty, what is output of apt-cache policy mate-core? |
| 07:07.32 | hellhammer | i ran that |
| 07:07.34 | hellhammer | and it said |
| 07:07.45 | hellhammer | 1.8.0+9. 0 |
| 07:08.14 | hellhammer | 900 "a url here" swaauB OxjFW then 100 /var/lib/dkpg/status |
| 07:08.17 | AlexLikeRock | ransur0t, i talk that , Xorg it ok |
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| 07:08.24 | ransur0t | k, so package is installed (not mistakenly removed during update or something like that ...) |
| 07:08.24 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:08.32 | ransur0t | sure AlexLikeRock, all set |
| 07:08.38 | ransur0t | probably a good idea |
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| 07:08.47 | AlexLikeRock | come on |
| 07:08.51 | hellhammer | how do i reinstall mate from the terminal |
| 07:09.28 | AlexLikeRock | ransur0t, |
| 07:09.29 | AlexLikeRock | you interrupted me, to waste time |
| 07:09.44 | hellhammer | stay focused friends |
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| 07:09.50 | ransur0t | not really dude, but if you're offended, my apologies |
| 07:09.50 | hellhammer | how do i reinstall mate from the terminal |
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| 07:10.07 | AlexLikeRock | hellhammer, you left me out |
| 07:10.19 | hellhammer | no i didnt |
| 07:10.20 | AlexLikeRock | ask ransur0t |
| 07:10.27 | hellhammer | alex you're a great guy |
| 07:10.35 | hellhammer | seriously |
| 07:10.44 | ransur0t | hah |
| 07:10.48 | hellhammer | you're like batman helping guys like me out |
| 07:11.01 | hellhammer | now can someone answer my question on how to REINSTALL mate from the terminal |
| 07:11.26 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:11.57 | AlexLikeRock | ask ransur0t hellhammer |
| 07:12.10 | hellhammer | I'm asking both of you alexikerock and ransur0t |
| 07:12.26 | AlexLikeRock | im out |
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| 07:14.50 | Dat | maybe I have to just mount manually |
| 07:14.56 | Dat | i thought this could be done at boot |
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| 07:16.00 | Dat | AlexLikeRock: done the upate |
| 07:16.07 | AlexLikeRock | reboot |
| 07:16.12 | Dat | jelly: I have one in there and fstab |
| 07:16.12 | ransur0t | hellhammer: you could try apt-get remove mate-core, then apt-get install mate-core |
| 07:16.43 | Dat | AlexLikeRock: I have but it says my target doesn't exist yet I can mount manually |
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| 07:16.43 | ransur0t | there are other component packages to the mate desktop that could be missing or problematic |
| 07:16.53 | jelly | Dat: okay then, if you edited crypttab manually you may have to update-initramfs for the current kernel as well |
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| 07:17.27 | Dat | jelly: i have done that but on reboot it says my target doesn't exist |
| 07:17.54 | jelly | Dat: pastebin your crypttab |
| 07:17.57 | ransur0t | and hellhammer a question to ask yourself is did you apply any updates recently that involved mate? |
| 07:18.22 | hellhammer | i was installing lib dependcies for steam |
| 07:18.34 | AlexLikeRock | steam ... |
| 07:18.36 | AlexLikeRock | lol |
| 07:18.37 | jelly | Dat: and pastebin the _exact_ message about "my target doesn't exist" with some context |
| 07:18.48 | ransur0t | ahh, now that's good to know ... any most likely the root of your problem |
| 07:18.58 | Dat | jelly: prvbox UUID=513b7821-dfe4-4472-ba77-a666ec2a8f66 none luks |
| 07:19.03 | hellhammer | you think it bricked mate? |
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| 07:19.44 | Dat | jelly: i wont be able to paste the exact message its lost in the console buffer once I do ctrl + d to continue to boot |
| 07:19.58 | ransur0t | seems to be related, at least |
| 07:20.19 | ransur0t | you could try a purge/removal of steam to see if that clears the issue |
| 07:20.20 | jelly | Dat: use a camera phone or similar, take a screenshot |
| 07:20.26 | Dat | jelly: i also need something in /etc/fstab? |
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| 07:20.50 | Dat | jelly: all the error is saying /dev/mapper/prvbox doesn't exist when I boot up |
| 07:21.00 | Dat | yet I can mount it manaually |
| 07:21.16 | jelly | Dat: does that UUID= match the "blkid" output line for the partition with TYPE="crypto_LUKS" ? |
| 07:21.35 | AlexLikeRock | Dat, to do automatic, debian , need some pakages, i dont remember names |
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| 07:21.50 | jelly | Dat: wait, you only need to mount it manually, but not luksOpen manually? |
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| 07:22.33 | Dat | jelly: i want the encrypted drive to be mounted at boot after a successful password is entered. |
| 07:22.46 | jelly | Dat: pastebin your "blkid" and "lsblk" as well, please |
| 07:22.49 | Dat | jelly: yes the uuid matches |
| 07:23.09 | jelly | Dat: which debian release is this, again? |
| 07:23.36 | Dat | debian 7.9 wheezy |
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| 07:25.48 | AlexLikeRock | i got wheeezy not ecrypted |
| 07:25.51 | AlexLikeRock | in this laptop |
| 07:25.54 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:26.10 | AlexLikeRock | if you need somting :-) |
| 07:26.17 | Dat | finally got it to see the drive when I reboot and asks for the passphrase now just says no key available after I type in my password |
| 07:26.28 | AlexLikeRock | grate Dat |
| 07:26.50 | Dat | AlexLikeRock: kinda still can't boot the drive since it says no key available |
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| 07:26.55 | jelly | Dat: are you doing any changes to the system without telling us? |
| 07:27.14 | jelly | that makes it hard to help |
| 07:27.18 | Dat | jelly: just a reboot. |
| 07:27.28 | AlexLikeRock | Dat, jusn need change the password |
| 07:27.30 | hellhammer | man |
| 07:27.37 | hellhammer | im instaling openbox see if that works |
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| 07:27.48 | ransur0t | worth a try :) |
| 07:28.03 | AlexLikeRock | of course hellhammer , i tell you its mate worng |
| 07:28.14 | Dat | AlexLikeRock: that fixes the no key available? |
| 07:28.25 | hellhammer | if i had a live cd of this exact debian distro im using |
| 07:28.37 | hellhammer | is there anyway i could do a repair install or something and just replace broken mate? |
| 07:28.45 | AlexLikeRock | i dont not , try Dat |
| 07:28.49 | jelly | AlexLikeRock: do you have, like, ANY experience with LUKS / cryptsetup? |
| 07:29.10 | AlexLikeRock | i neever lose my key/pass |
| 07:29.22 | AlexLikeRock | its workin fine rigth now :-) |
| 07:31.41 | hellhammer | hopefully this worked |
| 07:32.10 | hellhammer | anyone have an answer to my question regarding just replacing mate with a livecd mate |
| 07:32.13 | jelly | AlexLikeRock: best stick to helping with things you actually worked with. If you don't have experience with LUKS (or no idea what that is), then please avoid making suggestions about it, that's just confusing and the opposite of helpful. |
| 07:32.44 | AlexLikeRock | jelly, i have experience with LUKS |
| 07:32.59 | ransur0t | hellhammer: there is no repair desktop function with debian install cd, at least none that I am aware of |
| 07:33.07 | hellhammer | good news is |
| 07:33.09 | AlexLikeRock | jelly, ii mount manualy too |
| 07:33.09 | hellhammer | openbox works fine |
| 07:33.16 | ransur0t | good news indeed |
| 07:33.40 | hellhammer | now i can open SYNAPTIC |
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| 07:33.57 | ransur0t | so try to ferret out the conflict between mate and those steam libs you installed ... ;) |
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| 07:34.39 | Dat | maybe my disk is corrupted |
| 07:34.51 | jelly | Dat: so previously you were able to mount manually, and presumably enter the passphrase before before that at boot time? And now you can't even enter the passphrase? |
| 07:35.49 | hellhammer | reinstalling mate now |
| 07:36.18 | Dat | jelly: currently I can mount the drive manually on reboot it claims no key available for this passphrase. |
| 07:36.57 | hellhammer | WELL |
| 07:37.05 | hellhammer | looks like i might be sticking with openbox now |
| 07:37.10 | ransur0t | hah |
| 07:37.14 | jelly | Dat: how precisely do you mount it? |
| 07:37.32 | jelly | Dat: where's the "lsblk" and "blkid" output? |
| 07:37.47 | ransur0t | openbox is fun, especially once you dial it in, with tint2, or a good dock, etc |
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| 07:37.58 | hellhammer | ive used it with crunchbang before |
| 07:38.03 | ransur0t | nice |
| 07:38.11 | Dat | jelly: i use cryptsetup luksOpen then mount. |
| 07:38.26 | ransur0t | can you run steam within openbox ok? |
| 07:38.30 | hellhammer | yeah |
| 07:38.30 | Dat | jelly: I haven't posted my lsblk or blkid of the output of all my drives connected. |
| 07:38.36 | hellhammer | it worked fine on crunchbang |
| 07:38.36 | ransur0t | cool |
| 07:38.41 | ransur0t | try now |
| 07:39.04 | jelly | Dat: also paste the exact commands you use to luksOpen and mount, please |
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| 07:40.35 | Dat | jelly: cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb prvbox ; mount /dev/mapper/prvbox /prvbox/ |
| 07:40.55 | jelly | there may be a race condition at boot, dunno, or maybe UUID= syntax in crypttab has issues on wheezy |
| 07:41.20 | jelly | or initramfs isn't updated with current crypttab |
| 07:41.35 | Dat | I'm thinking my password has a special charector in it and I dunno if wheezy likes it |
| 07:41.40 | jelly | (but then it wouldn't even _ask_ for the passphrase) |
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| 07:43.02 | jelly | Dat: having a different keyboard layout at boot could be a factor |
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| 07:44.02 | jelly | !keymap |
| 07:44.02 | dpkg | Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
| 07:44.20 | Dat | jelly: thanks for all the info |
| 07:44.50 | Dat | I think I'll have to start over and try again. not sure why I can mount manually but not during boot timr |
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| 07:49.36 | Dat | wow i was right |
| 07:49.41 | Dat | AlexLikeRock: thx!! |
| 07:49.46 | Dat | changing the password solved it |
| 07:49.50 | jelly | lol |
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| 07:50.07 | Dat | so wheezy done like special charectors |
| 07:50.27 | Dat | that actually sucks :( |
| 07:50.29 | jelly | or you have a different keymap in the console at boot, vs. later |
| 07:50.30 | AlexLikeRock | jelly, , what tink about ? ;-) |
| 07:50.34 | AlexLikeRock | :-* |
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| 07:50.53 | Dat | jelly: i'll have to check into that |
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| 07:50.54 | AlexLikeRock | Dat, no problem , Dat , glad to help you |
| 07:51.11 | jelly | lucky guess is what I think :-) |
| 07:51.50 | ransur0t | hah |
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| 07:56.53 | Dat | jelly: or maybe a cace of fat fingers |
| 07:56.54 | Dat | :( |
| 07:57.04 | Dat | Now it accepts my special charector password |
| 07:57.12 | Dat | should get coffee |
| 07:57.17 | Dat | thx jelly / AlexLikeRock |
| 07:57.38 | AlexLikeRock | (Y) |
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| 09:11.24 | sumi | hello |
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| 09:22.10 | Algebr | common question, how can I find all packages that depend on a package? |
| 09:22.38 | Bent0 | I have this ancient Debian machine which needs an updated SSL Root CA list as it doesn't trust /C=BE/O=GlobalSign nv-sa/CN=GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G2':. Any way to update the trusted root ca list> |
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| 09:24.34 | bezaban | Bent0: that is an intermediate certificate and should not distributed via ca-certificates. If you are getting trust issues this means that the server is not sending the intermediates correctly (or possibly that it's missing the actual root certificate). |
| 09:24.56 | Bent0 | bezaban: It is working on newer Ubuntu servers though. Chrome doesnt report an error either |
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| 09:25.20 | McAndrew | hi all |
| 09:25.54 | McAndrew | anyone knows how to boot jessie via grub command into textmode instead of grafical mode (init3) |
| 09:25.57 | bezaban | Bent0: if a client has visited a server using that chain before it will often trust them for future sites. |
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| 09:26.21 | Bent0 | hmm ok |
| 09:26.37 | bezaban | Bent0: you can check the chain sent using openssl s_client -connect host:443 |
| 09:27.10 | bezaban | but it could be missing trust in the root of course |
| 09:27.22 | Bent0 | Certificate chain |
| 09:27.22 | Bent0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.22 | Bent0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.22 | Bent0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.22 | Bent0 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:27.33 | Bent0 | goddanmit it was only 4 lines :p |
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| 09:28.04 | bezaban | that looks correctly configured, so yeah - looks like root certificate is lacking |
| 09:28.25 | bezaban | Root CA R3 |
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| 09:28.57 | bezaban | unless it is a cipher mismatch due to old openssl - all depending on ancientness of the system |
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| 09:30.14 | petn-randall | Bent0: Which release of Debian are you using? |
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| 09:30.33 | Bent0 | squeeze. Don't judge, inherited this junk from the prev admin |
| 09:30.40 | Bent0 | Were busy moving stuff over |
| 09:30.51 | Bent0 | 1350 days of uptime lol |
| 09:31.39 | ransur0t | impressive |
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| 09:35.07 | jelly | Bent0: add squeeze-lts repos, upgrade openssl and libssl0.9.8 and ca-certificates package, see if that makes ANY difference |
| 09:35.13 | jelly | !squeeze-lts |
| 09:35.13 | dpkg | Volunteer-provided security support for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" ended on 2016-02-29 for a limited set of packages for i386 and amd64. An appropriate line for your sources.list is «deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts main». |
| 09:35.58 | Bent0 | jelly: Will take a look cheers |
| 09:36.09 | jelly | you will also need |
| 09:36.14 | jelly | !valid-until |
| 09:36.14 | dpkg | valid-until is probably apt-get/aptitude -o Acquire::Check-Valid-Until=false ... |
| 09:37.17 | molluskempire | Algebr, apt-cache rdepends foo will likely get you what you are looking for. |
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| 09:38.28 | molluskempire | Algebr, think I misunderstood the question. You want to know if other packages depend on a package? |
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| 09:39.34 | Algebr | I want to know what packages use a certain package |
| 09:39.42 | Algebr | I think rdepends is good enough for that |
| 09:40.23 | pingfloyd | Algebr: apt-rdepends -r |
| 09:40.47 | pingfloyd | Algebr: apt-cache rdepends will only show what directly depends on the package in question |
| 09:41.29 | Algebr | not transitively? |
| 09:41.40 | pingfloyd | no, as far as I know |
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| 09:41.55 | pingfloyd | apt-rdepends does dependency checking recursively |
| 09:42.14 | pingfloyd | forward or reverse, just like apt-cache, but recursively |
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| 09:42.21 | molluskempire | ^ |
| 09:43.02 | pingfloyd | in your case you want the -r switch for it to do reverse |
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| 09:44.47 | Algebr | apt-cache says it doens't know about -r |
| 09:45.11 | pingfloyd | Algebr: -r with apt-rdepends |
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| 09:45.57 | molluskempire | ^ |
| 09:46.15 | molluskempire | You will likely need to go get apt-rdepends |
| 09:46.26 | Algebr | ya, got it |
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| 09:59.04 | toogley | which debian package does contain this latex package http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/hyphenat/ ? i have trouble to find it in the offical debian packages |
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| 10:00.05 | toogley | ah, i found it. i just forgot one way to search.. its in https://packages.debian.org/jessie/texlive-latex-extra |
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| 10:48.47 | tboston | moin |
| 10:49.03 | tboston | I have set up Debian Jessie as a KVM Host |
| 10:49.28 | tboston | the first VM is the Firewall/OpenBSD |
| 10:49.47 | tboston | and I have NAT set up already |
| 10:50.10 | tboston | do you guys know how I can route all traffic from the Internet to the VM? |
| 10:51.10 | Flashtek | all the traffic from the internet |
| 10:51.13 | Flashtek | ? |
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| 10:51.28 | sypher | tboston: You're trying to use the OpenBSD VM as your border gateway, basically. |
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| 10:52.26 | tboston | Flashtek: yes, all network traffic should go directly to the VM Guest, not to the Host system |
| 10:52.33 | sypher | tboston: This isn't really a Debian question. This is more a networking question. |
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| 10:52.50 | tboston | sypher: yeah I guess, no figure where to ask :P |
| 10:53.20 | sypher | tboston: #networking, perhaps. |
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| 10:54.10 | tboston | sypher: thanks, trying |
| 10:54.35 | fernie | tboston: you would need at least two interfaces and two bridges set up, one for the internet and one for the lan. assign your vm to both and do the natting in it |
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| 12:05.36 | Hestben | ls |
| 12:05.41 | Hestben | oops |
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| 12:06.15 | Hestben | Hey guys. Do you also get a certification error when downloading from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html |
| 12:06.34 | kingkong- | hi. i want to update but not upgrade one item. how to do it? |
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| 12:06.56 | Hestben | s/certification error/certificate error/ |
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| 12:07.14 | themill | kingkong-: what are you really trying to do? |
| 12:07.14 | Raspberry | hi |
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| 12:10.02 | kingkong- | themill: update/upgrade shows me postfix and some postfix updates. i dont want to update it. but other things else than postfix* i want to update |
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| 12:12.44 | H403R | hi |
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| 12:15.12 | H403R | hey |
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| 12:16.47 | themill | kingkong-: there haven't been any postfix updates in quite some time |
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| 12:17.40 | H403R | updates |
| 12:17.45 | H403R | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:18.06 | Raspberry | i have a problem |
| 12:18.13 | H403R | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:18.19 | jelly | !ask |
| 12:18.20 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 12:18.58 | H403R | wait.... |
| 12:19.22 | Raspberry | i have a raspberry pi 3 |
| 12:19.35 | H403R | then |
| 12:19.58 | H403R | stop using it |
| 12:20.09 | Raspberry | why? |
| 12:20.33 | Raspberry | no im use my raspberry pi often |
| 12:20.57 | Raspberry | the problem is how can i play videos |
| 12:21.33 | H403R | u should use phone to play videos |
| 12:21.44 | H403R | for fun |
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| 12:22.13 | Raspberry | the raspberry pi have vlc player but when i use vlc to play videos the video is slowly |
| 12:22.33 | kingkong- | themill: i have 9.6 version update. but i dont want to. |
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| 12:23.00 | H403R | hmm |
| 12:23.02 | themill | kingkong-: I think we're well past the stage where real commands produce real output |
| 12:23.34 | H403R | https://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Pi-Beginner-Step-Guide/dp/1539342980/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1477916596&sr=8-1&keywords=raspberry+guide |
| 12:23.43 | jelly | H403R: this channel is for tech support. Stick to relevant, helpful conversation. If you want to chat, use #debian-offtopic or ##chat |
| 12:23.54 | kingkong- | do you mean to see output paste of my upgrade output ? |
| 12:24.17 | H403R | who r u |
| 12:24.23 | themill | kingkong-: you're being incredibly vague. Until you are precise, it's hard to help you at al |
| 12:24.24 | themill | l |
| 12:24.57 | H403R | https://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-User-Guide-Eben-Upton/dp/1119264367/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1477916596&sr=8-2&keywords=raspberry+guide |
| 12:25.07 | Raspberry | stop :) |
| 12:25.14 | H403R | 09 |
| 12:25.17 | jelly | Raspberry: do you actually have debian installed on it, or raspbian? It's possible debian does not have all the closed acceleration drivers in place |
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| 12:25.35 | Raspberry | i have raspbian |
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| 12:26.22 | kingkong- | themill: yeah i dont understand you well. |
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| 12:26.59 | bezaban | kingkong-: is there a specific reason you don't want to patch postfix? |
| 12:27.06 | jelly | Raspberry: in that case you'll get relevant help in #raspbian channel |
| 12:27.09 | RoyK | jelly: does raspbian come with closed source acceleration drivers? I thought it was all open |
| 12:27.27 | themill | kingkong-: please put the real output of something into a pastebin. There is no such thing as version 9.6 of postfix. |
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| 12:28.02 | jelly | RoyK: I honestly have no idea, last time I looked firmware for that SoC was very closed but loaded at boot time |
| 12:28.20 | kingkong- | bezaban: i think i will upgrade postfix when i will have time. i must move database etc.for now, i will ignore its upgrade |
| 12:28.27 | kingkong- | themill: https://paste.kde.org/pvffujezi/jpo7s6 |
| 12:28.56 | RoyK | postfix != postgresql ;) |
| 12:28.58 | kingkong- | i want to upgrade others else than postfix* related packages. how can i exclude it? |
| 12:29.09 | bezaban | oh, not paying attention :P |
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| 12:29.32 | kingkong- | RoyK ah yes postgresql you are right indeed |
| 12:29.46 | RoyK | quite different things, really |
| 12:29.48 | bezaban | oh i see |
| 12:29.49 | kingkong- | not postfix.i meant postgresql |
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| 12:29.57 | missmbob | anyone know what the hell is happening with kernel.org? https://paste.debian.net/891092/ |
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| 12:30.38 | RoyK | missmbob: try ftp |
| 12:30.54 | kingkong- | i mix those words always. i meant postgresql themill |
| 12:31.07 | kingkong- | RoyK thank you :) |
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| 12:31.18 | missmbob | RoyK: no that fails too |
| 12:31.38 | kingkong- | how can i exclude postgresql upgrade from output? |
| 12:31.43 | RoyK | missmbob: I just tried ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/ - works for me (tm) |
| 12:31.57 | missmbob | asshole (jk) ;) |
| 12:33.21 | RoyK | kingkong-: google apt hold |
| 12:33.28 | RoyK | !hold |
| 12:33.28 | dpkg | hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771 (fixed in stretch). See also <hold list>, <unhold>. |
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| 12:35.50 | missmbob | RoyK: which ip do you get? |
| 12:36.07 | kingkong- | apt-get has no hold ? |
| 12:36.23 | RoyK | missmbob: http://paste.debian.net/891095/ |
| 12:36.51 | missmbob | RoyK: that ip works. guess the cdn is having issues. thanks. |
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| 12:37.09 | kingkong- | "echo postfix* hold|dpkg --set-selections" this will hold all postfix* packages ? |
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| 12:37.22 | RoyK | kingkong-: it was postgresql ;) |
| 12:37.24 | kingkong- | postgresql* i meant |
| 12:37.34 | kingkong- | yes sorry again mixed :d |
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| 12:37.53 | kingkong- | see i mixed in 5 minutes again :d |
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| 12:38.21 | themill | just using aptitude in interactive mode (or forbid-version) is probably easier |
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| 12:38.53 | themill | !forbid-version |
| 12:38.53 | dpkg | To prevent aptitude from upgrading a package, «aptitude forbid-version packagename» for example «aptitude forbid-version vim» will prevent aptitude upgrading to the current version of vim. This allows you to skip known-broken versions of packages without using <hold> or <pinning>. Use «aptitude install packagename» to undo forbid-version. List: «aptitude search ?installed -F"%a %p %V" | grep ^F» |
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| 12:39.42 | RoyK | themill: do people still use aptitude? |
| 12:39.48 | kaji | yeah |
| 12:39.51 | kaji | i do |
| 12:40.04 | missmbob | i've never even had aptitude installed |
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| 12:40.16 | kaji | anyone know anything 'bout drones? |
| 12:40.33 | missmbob | seriously? |
| 12:40.54 | RoyK | kaji: doesn't sound related to debian ;) |
| 12:41.12 | kaji | it runs debian |
| 12:41.24 | kaji | im trying to get it as realtime ap |
| 12:41.26 | missmbob | no. we don't care. |
| 12:41.40 | jelly | = access point? |
| 12:41.44 | resurtm | My microwave oven runs Debian. Lets talk about food! |
| 12:41.49 | Flashtek | I'm in |
| 12:42.25 | missmbob | resurtm: hell fucking yes. we need some AI to deal with the mashed potatoes madness. it's just improper. |
| 12:42.28 | kaji | i get ur point :) |
| 12:42.59 | Flashtek | can it also slap people that don't cover their food ? |
| 12:43.11 | missmbob | Flashtek: + |
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| 12:46.39 | kingkong- | themill: wildcards accepted on forbid-version? |
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| 12:48.20 | kingkong- | ok its not accepted |
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| 12:51.52 | kingkong- | https://paste.kde.org/piq4ntbgi/gebhmz |
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| 12:56.05 | tdn | Anyone has experience using REAR (Relax and Recover) with Debian? It seems documentation is from 2012 so not sure how active the debian packages are. And if they work at all |
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| 13:01.00 | missmbob | their debian package is dated oct 12 2016. |
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| 13:04.02 | lin-newbie | my volume-fn-keys dont work in jessie xfce. with gnome and kde they do. any ideas? |
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| 13:04.41 | missmbob | go into your bios and change how function keys work |
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| 13:06.11 | lin-newbie | why that missmbob. they work under any other DE.. |
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| 13:07.13 | missmbob | because that wasn't information you previously gave |
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| 13:09.01 | jelly | lin-newbie: I've had a hit-and-miss experience with those in xfce. worked in wheezy, didn't work in jessie, they work again in stretch (current testing) |
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| 13:09.41 | lin-newbie | mm.. but need a workarround.. wanted to wait a bit for stretch... |
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| 13:11.14 | jelly | dunno, verify with "xev" the keys actually generate XF86AudioLowerVolume and XF86AudioRaiseVolume, then try to create two global shortcuts running commands to raise the volume |
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| 13:11.47 | jelly | raise and lower*, respectively |
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| 13:15.07 | lin-newbie | sorry.. didnt understand that thing with xev |
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| 13:17.23 | jelly | xev tool opens a window and shows X input events (mouse and keyboard). Focus on it and press relevant keys, see on the terminal (standard output) which keys it recognized |
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| 13:18.05 | bla | Hi. |
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| 13:18.14 | jelly | lin-newbie: this can be used to verify weird multimedia keys actually have the right meaning |
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| 13:18.59 | bla | Gcc-6.0 doesn't seem to be able to compile the kernel. Is it possible to switch gcc to older version? (I've got 3 installed but don't seem to be handled by alternatives) |
| 13:19.16 | jelly | bla: which debian release are you on? |
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| 13:19.40 | bla | jelly, testing |
| 13:19.44 | jelly | ask in |
| 13:19.47 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 13:19.47 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 13:19.52 | bla | Ok. |
| 13:19.53 | lin-newbie | this is what showed me XEV: http://pastebin.com/j5Wkhz7n |
| 13:20.02 | lin-newbie | first I pressed volume up.. then volume down |
| 13:20.15 | bla | jelly, seems you must be invited. |
| 13:20.19 | bla | Ah, not freenode |
| 13:20.27 | bla | Go simplicity. |
| 13:20.52 | babilen | bla: Official Debian channels are on OFTC, this one is the outlier |
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| 13:21.29 | OpenTokix | bla: you can configure your update-alternatives to handle gcc for you to easy switch between installed version. |
| 13:21.43 | jelly | lin-newbie: did you move the mouse over the xev window first? |
| 13:22.00 | jelly | and click into it, possibly |
| 13:22.14 | lin-newbie | ahm.. no I think.. but not shure. Why? |
| 13:22.15 | jelly | it needs to be in focus |
| 13:22.35 | jelly | then type some keys, and look at output |
| 13:22.39 | lin-newbie | ok.. let me do that again.. so just hovering the mouse over this field, right? and the pressing the volume-keys ? |
| 13:23.03 | jelly | press a couple other keys first, so you get a feeling of how it works |
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| 13:25.57 | jelly | the idea is to see if you're getting the right key presses or not |
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| 13:26.15 | jelly | KeyRelease event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x9400001, |
| 13:26.15 | jelly | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:26.15 | jelly | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:26.20 | lin-newbie | when I just press "d" there is a KeyPressEvent.. but not so when VolumeUp/Down |
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| 13:26.59 | jelly | if there's nothing when you either press or release those, that's the first problem you'll have to solve then |
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| 13:27.28 | jelly | in my case the events were there, but xfce just did not have anything to react to them |
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| 13:29.47 | lin-newbie | mm.. i think its the same like in your case. |
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| 13:31.34 | lin-newbie | thats what happens when I press just Volume-Up: http://pastebin.com/DX9R26HC |
| 13:32.09 | neldogz | I am calling an ignore file as follows: rsync -avi --exclude-from=/opt/rsync/ignore_list and in the ingore file I am excluding certain directories from backup of my /home such as .adobe, .cache, .macromedia, .steam ... but for some reason .phoronix-test-suite is not being excluded. Has anyone run into a similar issue with exclusions? |
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| 13:35.50 | maziar | I have a debian server and i want to do snmpwalk from remote server to my server but i can not, but on my server i can do snmpwalk to localhost, how should i fix it ? |
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| 13:40.25 | OpenTokix | maziar: your snmpd probably only listens to localhost interface and you need to configure this. |
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| 13:44.52 | Serg_Penguin | hi ! I have packages clash: nginx 1.6.2-5+deb8u2 from OS vendor VS nginx 1.10.2-1~jessie from nginx vendor. It runs OK, only updates are broken. How to remove old package not breaking the new and without service downtime ? |
| 13:44.54 | RoyK | maziar: snmp usually runs over udp port 161, that must be open, and as OpenTokix says, snmpd obviously has to listen to that and not just localhost (see netstat -lnop --udp) |
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| 13:47.55 | babilen | Serg_Penguin: We really only support packages from Debian here. If upstream provides packages that can not be upgraded you might want to consider not using them. You can get 1.9.10-1~bpo8+3 from backports which should work fine. |
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| 13:48.09 | neldogz | I am calling an ignore file as follows: rsync -avi --exclude-from=/opt/rsync/ignore_list and in the ingore file I am excluding certain directories from backup of my /home such as .adobe, .cache, .macromedia, .steam ... but for some reason .phoronix-test-suite is not being excluded. Has anyone run into a similar issue with exclusions? |
| 13:49.21 | Serg_Penguin | babilen, thanks, it was really general question how to disentangle packages pointing to same files, just did it with small downtime |
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| 14:10.18 | cruncher | neldogz, is .phoronix-test-suite a file or folder? is it in the root or a subfolder? |
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| 14:10.56 | edelong | wave |
| 14:11.35 | cruncher | babilen, i was thinking about what you said before, official channels being on oftc... so i wonder why here are the double of people? is it being decommissioned soon or why we dont just go all to oftc? |
| 14:12.27 | edelong | What is a good notifier for security updgrades for Debian? |
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| 14:12.35 | babilen | cruncher: Many people are on both channels, but Freenode is a larger network. Most Debian channels and official people are on OFTC however |
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| 14:13.17 | babilen | And there are no plans to remove this channel |
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| 14:13.33 | neldogz | cruncher, its a folder and it is in the path of home |
| 14:13.50 | cruncher | neldogz, you mean the folder is ~/.phoronix-test-suite |
| 14:14.32 | neldogz | yes |
| 14:14.32 | babilen | edelong: You might like to run apticron on your servers |
| 14:15.10 | cruncher | neldogz, so it should work. can you post the line of that folder in your exclude file? |
| 14:15.33 | neldogz | http://pastebin.com/v71157MG |
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| 14:16.19 | edelong | babilen: thanks, I will look into that |
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| 14:16.43 | DoctorD90 | Hello guys!!! :) I should manage an installation party with my lug. To be professional and optimize stuff, instead to prepare multiple usb with multiple DE and OS, for 32 and 64 bit, I thougth to prepar a local apt-mirror and run netinst...my thougth was: would be possible load installer into ram? so I can start netinst, and once loaded, I can remove it? and connect to local LAN to download package from local repo? |
| 14:17.13 | bezaban | DoctorD90: you can PXE boot the clients with a netinst image |
| 14:17.14 | babilen | DoctorD90: Look into PXE booting from a DHCP server |
| 14:18.08 | babilen | I'd recommend an apt proxy rather than a complete mirror though |
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| 14:19.43 | cruncher | neldogz, can you show the rsync command you are using? |
| 14:19.55 | DoctorD90 | babilen, about apt-proxy, I dont know if we have a large internet connetcion tht day :P I would be safe xD |
| 14:20.40 | babilen | DoctorD90: I simply recommended not to mirror the entire archive, but to cache packages you actually need |
| 14:20.41 | DoctorD90 | and if pc doesnt support pxe for example? or we have issue to load pxe? XD |
| 14:20.51 | babilen | Then you can't use PXE |
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| 14:21.28 | DoctorD90 | Id need basic installation :P and all DE stuff....gnome cinnamon lxde mate xfce kde ....maybe forget someone |
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| 14:21.44 | DoctorD90 | babilen, my point is just to load netinst into ram :P |
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| 14:22.53 | bezaban | DoctorD90: if you set up a local mirror and specify it manually (or by preseeding the image), you should inform your participants that they need to change their sources.list back to something that will work after they leave :) |
| 14:23.26 | cruncher | neldogz, or is the rsync line beforethe whole command? |
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| 14:24.17 | DoctorD90 | bezaban, but I will not "inform", because it is an installation party, me and my friend will be there to do this stuff :P so we will start all and edit then :D |
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| 14:24.58 | babilen | How many people will attend this event? |
| 14:25.15 | DoctorD90 | I dont know xD but Id like to prepare to *many* |
| 14:25.23 | DoctorD90 | not just 2-4 people :P |
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| 14:25.46 | DoctorD90 | im making roll the news on local newspapers :P |
| 14:25.52 | DoctorD90 | so I hope we will get manu person :P |
| 14:25.58 | babilen | Setup PXE and ask them to bring a USB stick, prepare a cacher and download the netinstall image with and without firmware and make them easily accessible |
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| 14:26.26 | babilen | Obviously test your setup beforehand with different hardware |
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| 14:27.38 | DoctorD90 | wait wait...i havent fully gotcha: prepare a cacher and netinstall with/withou firmware :P |
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| 14:28.16 | ndiddy | toy know what really grinds my gears |
| 14:28.19 | ndiddy | *you |
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| 14:28.39 | neldogz | cruncher, it is rsync -avi --exclude-from=/opt/rsync/ignore_list --delete /home/myuser /media/myuser/WD-2TB-Ext4/myuser/home-backup.0/ |
| 14:28.41 | ndiddy | debian is dropping support for both i586 and ppc in stretch |
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| 14:28.55 | ndiddy | so i won't be able to run it on my olpc or my ibook |
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| 14:29.30 | neldogz | cruncher, .adobe, .cache, .macromedia, .steam, .local/share/Trash is being excluded but the others are not |
| 14:30.08 | cruncher | neldogz, what makes you believe it is not? can you tell me the exact path of the .prohonon fodler at the destination? |
| 14:30.50 | neldogz | when i go to the destination I can see .phoronix folder and all the subfolders |
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| 14:31.46 | cruncher | neldogz, you have the --delete paramater, but if the folder exists already, and it is being excluded, it is nto edeleted |
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| 14:32.06 | cruncher | so delete the folder at the destination, and try again |
| 14:32.15 | neldogz | cruncher, ohhhh |
| 14:32.27 | neldogz | trying now |
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| 14:50.07 | newbie77198 | Will Debian 8 install onto Vmware esxi 5.5? |
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| 14:53.21 | SerajewelKS | newbie77198: try it and see? |
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| 14:53.38 | missmbob | newbie77198: yes |
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| 14:54.05 | newbie77198 | missmbob thanks |
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| 15:00.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
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| 15:16.19 | Paul-it | hello |
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| 15:16.41 | bithugger | hello paul-it |
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| 15:18.12 | Paul-it | I have a vps , there are a china IP to continously try to connect as root, how may I lock a IP after a number of wrong password? |
| 15:18.58 | missmbob | Paul-it: fail2ban |
| 15:19.06 | zykotick9 | Paul-it: you might want to checkout fail2ban for an automated ban system |
| 15:19.17 | missmbob | !fail2ban |
| 15:19.17 | dpkg | Fail2ban invokes system access restrictions after repeated logon attempts. It uses <ssh> and <iptables> by default, but can be extended to whatever authentication and access denial system you're using. Fail2ban does not support <IPv6> (Debian bug #470417). http://www.fail2ban.org/ See also <denyhosts>. |
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| 15:19.54 | missmbob | Paul-it: i backported for jessie if you're interested in a newer version than what jessie has. https://dipconsultants.com/debian/jessie/?dir=fail2ban |
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| 15:21.38 | bithugger | Paul-it: are they trying to connect with SSH? you failed to mention the protocol. |
| 15:22.14 | han-solo | so what if he uses ipv6? :) |
| 15:22.14 | han-solo | just curious |
| 15:22.14 | Paul-it | not i, a china ip |
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| 15:23.40 | Paul-it | Â 'sshd' /var/log/auth.log |
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| 15:25.06 | missmbob | han-solo: fail2ban 0.10 branch supports ipv6 |
| 15:25.26 | han-solo | okay |
| 15:25.34 | Paul-it | ok, i installed fail2ban, must i restart sshd or set some config file , or it go by default ? |
| 15:25.39 | missmbob | no |
| 15:25.47 | missmbob | default works. you dont have to do anything |
| 15:25.51 | han-solo | ,v fail2ban |
| 15:25.52 | judd | Package: fail2ban on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.8.6-3wheezy3; wheezy-security: 0.8.6-3wheezy3; jessie: 0.8.13-1; stretch: 0.9.3-1; sid: 0.9.5-1 |
| 15:25.56 | han-solo | is that how judd is invoked? |
| 15:26.04 | han-solo | oh! |
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| 15:28.22 | Paul-it | judd , ok the log file of fail2ban ? |
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| 15:30.24 | missmbob | Paul-it: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/f/fail2ban/fail2ban_0.9.5-1_changelog |
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| 15:34.07 | missmbob | Paul-it: oh, you mean /var/log/fail2ban.log |
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| 15:34.33 | missmbob | Paul-it: btw, judd is a bot |
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| 15:35.33 | Paul-it | ok, thx. The previous link tell about some bug of fail2ban , is it bugged ? |
| 15:35.45 | missmbob | Paul-it: you should also know fail2ban doesn't work in real time. it's a cron. so it might take a minute until said ip is blocked |
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| 15:36.40 | missmbob | Paul-it: that's why i backported 0.9.3 to jessie. i wasn't happy with the version jessie shipped |
| 15:37.16 | han-solo | missmbob: you just ruined the fun |
| 15:37.29 | missmbob | i suck :( |
| 15:37.45 | han-solo | :) |
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| 15:39.14 | Paul-it | ok |
| 15:40.28 | missmbob | for those still playing, try backporting 0.9.5 to jessie. that's a bitch |
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| 15:44.04 | Paul-it | ok, it works good. |
| 15:44.12 | SerajewelKS | i thought jessie's fail2ban supported inotify |
| 15:45.20 | missmbob | SerajewelKS: uh. that'd be news to me |
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| 15:47.02 | TehRabbitt | is there a way to get files from TFTP using just a single line @ the console? |
| 15:47.07 | Paul-it | I'm using a android phone with juicessh, so i have difficult to write spedly sory |
| 15:47.09 | SerajewelKS | missmbob: the version in jessie suggests python-gamin (gamin is a file alteration module) and gamin can optionally support inotify. i'm not 100% sure, but if you install python-gamin and gamin, and your kernel supports inotify, fail2ban should start effectively using it |
| 15:47.13 | TehRabbitt | for instance, if I want to call it from a script, or a web app |
| 15:47.40 | SerajewelKS | file alteration monitor* |
| 15:47.42 | TehRabbitt | I figured I could do "tftp -c 10.10.10.66 -g myfile.txt" but it doens't work |
| 15:47.50 | SerajewelKS | !doesn't work |
| 15:47.51 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 15:48.34 | Paul-it | i could find a mode to use a phisical keyboard with android, the virtual keyboard is very bad and slow |
| 15:48.45 | missmbob | SerajewelKS: neat. thanks |
| 15:48.49 | TehRabbitt | if I run that as I typed it above, it just gives me a tftp> prompt |
| 15:49.12 | TehRabbitt | which if I type "get test2.txt" it works fine. but I need it to be interactive |
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| 15:49.39 | SerajewelKS | missmbob: looks like you have to configure fail2ban with "backend = gamin" as well |
| 15:50.21 | SerajewelKS | missmbob: this is in jail.conf |
| 15:50.28 | missmbob | SerajewelKS: gotcha |
| 15:50.34 | SerajewelKS | > Available options are "pyinotify", "gamin", "polling" and "auto". |
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| 15:51.22 | PinkPing | there is a core file in the /home/user. what is it? |
| 15:51.37 | SerajewelKS | missmbob: note that pyinotify (historically) has trouble with rotated logfiles (https://github.com/fail2ban/fail2ban/issues/44), so i would suggest maybe using gamin or polling explicitly |
| 15:52.38 | SerajewelKS | seems it was already fixed before 0.8.13 though. *shrug* anyway, it does support it. :) |
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| 15:53.17 | SerajewelKS | TehRabbitt: i dunno what tftp client you are using but that example doesn't match the syntax i see |
| 15:53.34 | SerajewelKS | TehRabbitt: which would be: tftp 10.10.10.66 -c 'get myfile.txt' |
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| 15:54.22 | SerajewelKS | TehRabbitt: unless you are using some non-standard tftp client...? |
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| 15:58.15 | PinkPing | there is a core file in the /home/user. what is it? |
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| 16:00.28 | mtn | PinkPing: probably a core dump. look it up |
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| 16:01.05 | PinkPing | but i canât see, because it is not text mtn |
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| 16:01.32 | mtn | PinkPing: do some research on core dumps. google is your friend |
| 16:01.42 | PinkPing | ok |
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| 16:07.04 | Paul-it | fail2ban have not a man page |
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| 16:10.18 | TomTomTosch | Paul-it: yes it does. multiple, even. |
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| 16:10.53 | jstolarek | I installed some security updates on my Squeeze yesterday and since then I am having serious issues with my WiFi |
| 16:11.03 | Paul-it | tomtomto@ what ? |
| 16:11.08 | jstolarek | I keep getting "disconnected" from my router |
| 16:11.30 | Paul-it | what is multiple ? |
| 16:11.39 | TomTomTosch | more than one. |
| 16:11.43 | jstolarek | "disconnected", i.e. network just dies, but network managager still considers me connected to the router |
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| 16:11.55 | jstolarek | the only solution being to re-connect |
| 16:12.04 | jstolarek | Has anyone experienced similar issues? |
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| 16:12.16 | TomTomTosch | Paul-it: fail2ban in debian comes with man pages for fail2ban, fail2ban-client, fail2ban-regex, fail2ban-server |
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| 16:12.33 | Paul-it | i write man fail2ban nothing |
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| 16:13.05 | missmbob | works here |
| 16:13.12 | TomTomTosch | Paul-it: which debian version and from where did you install fail2ban? |
| 16:13.25 | mutante | PinkPing: one of /etc/profile /etc/bashrc ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc (also: run "env" and you can see it) |
| 16:13.48 | PinkPing | thanks mutante :) |
| 16:14.10 | Paul-it | repository version jessie |
| 16:15.13 | TomTomTosch | then you either had a typo or got the package from a different place. |
| 16:15.33 | Paul-it | wheezy 7.11 repository |
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| 16:15.59 | TomTomTosch | can you paste 'apt-cache policy fail2ban' to paste.debian.net ? |
| 16:16.25 | missmbob | now i'm interested in all your sources |
| 16:16.47 | TomTomTosch | oh, wheezy doesn't have the fail2ban man page, only fail2ban-client, fail2ban-regex, fail2ban-server |
| 16:17.54 | Paul-it | ah, i have a vps |
| 16:18.10 | TomTomTosch | that doesn't matter. |
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| 16:20.16 | Paul-it | TomTomTosch: do u know a good irc client for android ? |
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| 16:20.30 | corw | hi to all |
| 16:21.09 | TomTomTosch | Paul-it: nope ^^ |
| 16:21.40 | Paul-it | there are many, but they are too much simple and unconfigurable, clients for dumbs |
| 16:22.19 | missmbob | Paul-it: i'd use mosh (take your pick, termux, juicessh) and connect to your vps. then irssi. |
| 16:22.28 | Paul-it | no configuration files no scriptable very bad |
| 16:22.56 | greyeax | mosh is rad |
| 16:23.01 | greyeax | recommend it |
| 16:23.22 | missmbob | mit...they be some smart folks :P |
| 16:23.48 | corw | i'm confused about adb; i'm using unstable and there are 2 packages: android-tools-adb 5.1.1.r29-2 , adb 1:6.0.1+r55-1, |
| 16:24.52 | doublehp | where can I address Debian team about the fact using sustemd is a very bad idea ? #debian-next does not move an hair |
| 16:25.01 | missmbob | nowhere |
| 16:25.30 | mutante | doublehp: on some mailing list where that topic has probably been already discussed ad inifitum |
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| 16:25.46 | greyeax | doublehp: why is it a very bad idea |
| 16:25.56 | missmbob | !why systemd |
| 16:25.56 | dpkg | a tired argument. Start by reading rra's excellent analysis at https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2013/12/msg00234.html Support for other init systems (sysvinit) is still present in Debian 8. systemd-shimallows userspace requiring some systemd APIs to work without it. See <jessie sysvinit> if you have to delay or wish to avoid using it. |
| 16:26.00 | TomTomTosch | don't start it -.- |
| 16:26.02 | missmbob | doesn't really matter why. |
| 16:26.25 | TomTomTosch | corw: looks like one is version 5.x and the other is version 6.x |
| 16:26.41 | greyeax | missmbob: the why always matters |
| 16:26.46 | greyeax | mang |
| 16:27.13 | doublehp | greyeax: my debian is broken; to fix it, I need to boot without service FOO; in systemV, disabling it was possible and easy via "mount and rm file"; in systemd ... i need chroot and mount bind many stuff |
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| 16:27.15 | missmbob | greyeax: not up for discussion here. it's settled. |
| 16:27.32 | corw | TomTomTosch: thx, that already understood :-) the question was which one start to use |
| 16:27.45 | jelly | doublehp: is that still a stretch (testing) system? |
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| 16:28.22 | greyeax | doublehp: pretty sure thats probably doable in a simpler fashion |
| 16:28.34 | greyeax | but that sounds like one specific use case issue tbh |
| 16:28.42 | doublehp | jelly: yes; I now regret installing stretch |
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| 16:29.02 | sonOfRa | Isn't systemctl enable <service> just a shorthand for symlinks? |
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| 16:30.00 | mutante | doublehp: systemctl mask yourservice |
| 16:30.22 | mutante | oh, i get the context now, sorry |
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| 16:31.41 | doublehp | mutante: i need to list services first; i don't the name of the service I need to disable; list used to tell me can"r connect to bus; now just plonking me: "Running in chroot, ignoring request." |
| 16:32.58 | mutante | doublehp: ugh, i see the pain there, yea |
| 16:33.56 | missmbob | it has tab completion. just systemctl disable <tab> will list them all |
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| 16:34.40 | doublehp | mutante: ls -l /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/ |
| 16:35.05 | mutante | doublehp: ah:) that works, yea |
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| 16:39.04 | jmcnaught | doublehp: did you try booting into the rescue target? why are you in a chroot? |
| 16:39.35 | sonOfRa | doublehp: if the system still boots in general, there's probably a recovery option in the GRUB menu, which should boot into systemd recovery mode, like the rescue target, or if even the rescue target fails, the emergency target |
| 16:39.55 | jmcnaught | yeah.. chroot sounds way off track |
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| 16:40.19 | doublehp | jmcnaught: no; my Grub goes very fast ; things are easier in a chroot (no time race against BIOS, immediately good keyboard layout, no terminal issue) |
| 16:40.54 | jelly | also that was the (not so) old way to do recovery things |
| 16:41.05 | jmcnaught | doublehp: if you set your grub too fast to catch, that's a pebkac problem, not a systemd problem |
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| 16:41.40 | sonOfRa | And if I'm not mistaken systemctl enable/disable should work even with no dbus connection, because, well, it just creates and deletes symlinks |
| 16:42.07 | doublehp | jmcnaught: not false :/ I have already increased my grub timeout; but you also need to add the time for Virtualbox to launch the machine, and, to connect to guest. |
| 16:42.22 | sonOfRa | start/stop won't work, but they really shouldn't. Starting and stopping services from inside a chroot is not really well defined |
| 16:42.23 | jmcnaught | you can mask a service by making a symlink to /dev/null in /etc/systemd/system |
| 16:42.39 | jelly | sonOfRa: except disable doesn't really disable anything, if something else requires the unit it will try to get started anyway |
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| 16:43.13 | jelly | jmcnaught: and he's been told that in #debian-next 10 minutes back |
| 16:43.32 | doublehp | sonOfRa: also, 20mn ago, I had big doubts about my kernel; so, chroot was safer if my kernel was broken (it's an official debian kernel, but I got KP ) |
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| 16:43.54 | jmcnaught | oh |
| 16:44.09 | sonOfRa | doublehp: aye, hence my original "if the system still boots in general". That kind of means "has a kernel that isn't broken" |
| 16:44.19 | jelly | doublehp: keep this to #debian-next (irc.oftc.net), anyone wanting to help or read further can join there themselves |
| 16:44.30 | sonOfRa | ack |
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| 16:52.37 | neldogz | cruncher, you were correct. the exclude and --delete parameter were conflicting causing the folders to appear they weren't being excluded at the target. |
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| 16:53.00 | neldogz | cruncher, thank you so much for your help, I spent hours troubleshooting this. |
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| 16:57.01 | cruncher | neldogz, you are welcome |
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| 17:05.07 | vvuja | question for all people on channel |
| 17:05.19 | vvuja | how to earn fast 2,5 euros on the Internet and get a payment over paypal |
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| 17:09.31 | zh1 | jhutchins, exporting all mail accounts i have inside icedove |
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| 17:10.55 | zh1 | jhutchins, dont want to add again one by one since im setting up a new machine |
| 17:11.28 | zh1 | jhutchins, mail accounts+settings |
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| 17:15.21 | zh1 | jhutchins, send me a memo have to go wipe the machine |
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| 17:20.50 | dokma | Can I have two wifi interfaces up? |
| 17:21.29 | dogman | dokma Yes, why not? |
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| 17:22.46 | dokma | dogman: wicd seems to disconnect the first as soon as I try to connect the other |
| 17:23.24 | dokma | just tried it... |
| 17:23.47 | dokma | and again, wicd disconnects the active wifi connection in order to connect to the other |
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| 17:24.03 | missmbob | interfaces. as in multiple chips. not multiple ap's on a single chip. |
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| 17:25.11 | dogman | ^ |
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| 17:26.28 | vvuja | you can bring two wifi interfaces up without a problem if you change frequency/channel on which one and another work |
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| 17:26.37 | vvuja | then they would not collide |
| 17:26.56 | vvuja | and setup the wifi connections on those frequencies |
| 17:26.59 | vvuja | channels |
| 17:27.07 | vvuja | then they will not collide |
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| 17:27.15 | TomTomTosch | the ap is the one with the fixed channel. |
| 17:27.25 | vvuja | then you need to change secodn one |
| 17:27.28 | vvuja | second one |
| 17:27.36 | vvuja | they both can not work on same channel |
| 17:27.39 | vvuja | then they collide |
| 17:27.55 | vvuja | different IPs same freq |
| 17:27.55 | TomTomTosch | scratches his head |
| 17:28.02 | vvuja | same with mobile phones |
| 17:28.12 | vvuja | how do you have two different mobile carriers inside your home |
| 17:28.26 | vvuja | like I have Telenor and domestic Telecom |
| 17:28.33 | vvuja | different freqs |
| 17:28.35 | dogman | Hw rich are you? |
| 17:28.42 | vvuja | who me? |
| 17:28.49 | dogman | Two carriers inside your home, wow |
| 17:28.52 | dogman | jk |
| 17:28.56 | vvuja | mobile phones |
| 17:28.59 | vvuja | not operators |
| 17:29.04 | vvuja | :) |
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| 17:32.34 | Elronnd | I installed xdm, but it isn't working properly |
| 17:33.28 | Elronnd | my .xsession isn't executed, I just get a black screen I can move a mouse around in |
| 17:34.11 | Elronnd | and when I press F1, I don't get a terminal, I just get the same black screen |
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| 18:03.24 | Bray90820 | What kernel version does debian 8.6 have |
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| 18:04.58 | zprd | hi there |
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| 18:06.06 | TomTomTosch | Bray90820: 3.16 |
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| 18:06.44 | Bray90820 | is 8.6 the latest version of debian? |
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| 18:07.06 | TomTomTosch | yes |
| 18:07.54 | TomTomTosch | you have the option to install a kernel from jessie-backports if you need it, which is 4.7 at the moment. |
| 18:08.20 | zprd | i've installed jessie on vmware, vsphere client doesn't succed showing up the console after installing it, even with open-vm-tools installed, any hints? |
| 18:08.41 | zprd | ubunt server (16.10) is okay though |
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| 18:09.58 | Bray90820 | That sucks 4.7 is the latest and i need 4.8 |
| 18:10.08 | jelly | zprd: you don't even need vm tools inside to just open the console |
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| 18:10.47 | jelly | zprd: which vmware product and version? |
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| 18:11.08 | Bray90820 | I am trying to switch from ubuntu to debian because I am having some wild network card issues that re causing kernel panics but for my touch screen to work i need kernel 4.8 |
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| 18:11.39 | TomTomTosch | then you either need to build it or find someone who has. |
| 18:12.18 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 18:12.19 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.8-1); stretch: 4.7.0-1-686 (4.7.8-1); jessie-backports: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.7.8-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1) |
| 18:12.20 | zprd | jelly: 6.0 esxi |
| 18:12.24 | Elronnd | I installed xdm, but it isn't working properly |
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| 18:12.34 | Elronnd | my .xsession isn't executed, I just get a black screen I can move a mouse around in |
| 18:12.47 | Elronnd | and when I press F1, I don't get a terminal, I just get the same black screen |
| 18:12.53 | jelly | zprd: no vcenter to try the web client? |
| 18:13.04 | zprd | no |
| 18:13.06 | zprd | :/ |
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| 18:14.02 | zprd | i'll try out a new install then, maybe a somehting went wrong |
| 18:14.07 | jelly | zprd: what happens when you right click on the vm in the left pane, and Open Console? |
| 18:15.26 | zprd | a window opens with a black background and a yellow essage |
| 18:15.38 | jelly | what does the yellow message say? |
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| 18:15.57 | jelly | yellow strip just on top? |
| 18:16.03 | zprd | I can't recall, it's not available to me right now sorry |
| 18:16.12 | zprd | yes yellow strip |
| 18:16.41 | zprd | I have the same symptom with freebsd |
| 18:17.01 | jelly | zprd: next time, try pressing a key. I bet it's just debian started dpms screen saver so the screen is black |
| 18:17.28 | zprd | seriously! |
| 18:17.31 | zprd | :) |
| 18:17.32 | jhutchins | zprd: You do have to click inside the window to capture keyboard and mouse input. |
| 18:17.39 | jelly | click into the window to let the console grab focus, then press something, like Shift |
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| 18:18.01 | zprd | dam'it |
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| 18:18.20 | zprd | just laughin out loud |
| 18:18.22 | jelly | dunno about freebsd, possibly the same thing |
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| 18:18.45 | zprd | heh |
| 18:18.58 | zprd | stupid me, i'll let you know |
| 18:18.59 | jelly | the yellow strip usually says "there is more than one client connected to this console" |
| 18:19.15 | jelly | that happens when you try opening the console inline in the fat client |
| 18:19.29 | jelly | and in the separate window as well |
| 18:20.00 | jelly | (the inline one sometimes fails, the separate window console ought to work better) |
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| 18:21.26 | zprd | okay |
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| 18:22.16 | zprd | well im used to the screen saver thing in virtual box, but never thought of it on vsphere |
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| 18:23.37 | l33n | pastebin.com/tjzkMQkb |
| 18:23.47 | l33n | please help |
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| 18:26.41 | jelly | l33n: does "subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10" for the same libapache2-mod-php5 package happen again if you run "dpkg --configure -a"? |
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| 18:27.29 | l33n | oyes |
| 18:27.30 | l33n | yes |
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| 18:29.03 | jelly | are there any other packages with issues visible in "dpkg --configure -a" output apart from that one? |
| 18:29.16 | l33n | no |
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| 18:30.29 | l33n | i changed the post scripts so that they reflected "set -x" |
| 18:30.36 | l33n | as before they reflected "set -e" |
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| 18:30.54 | l33n | because i was getting this error for all php5 package dependencies |
| 18:31.10 | jelly | l33n: good, pastebin that but please use http://paste.debian.net -- it has less ads |
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| 18:32.40 | jelly | l33n: also pastebin the output of 1) "apt-get -f install" 2) "apt-cache policy" and 3) "apt-cache policy php5 libapache2-mod-php5 apache2 apache2-bin" |
| 18:32.50 | l33n | paste.debian.net/891160/ |
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| 18:33.40 | jelly | l33n: the output of "dpkg --configure -a" with set -x in place, not the file... |
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| 18:33.57 | l33n | ok |
| 18:34.29 | jelly | leave "set -e" there, just add a new line with "set -x" |
| 18:34.52 | jelly | otherwise the script won't fail when it needs to |
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| 18:39.35 | jelly | l33n: I'm going AFK for an hour or so, hopefully someone else will jump in |
| 18:39.41 | l33n | ok |
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| 18:42.33 | l33n | paste.debian.net/891161/ |
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| 18:44.53 | l33n | paste.debian.net/891162/ |
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| 18:46.29 | l33n | paste.debian.net/891164/ |
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| 18:47.30 | kion | my firefox is complanining about outdated flash, should go ahead and install the latest through the flash web page or wait til flashplugin-nonfree package gets updated? |
| 18:47.45 | kion | does anyone else have that problem starting on the 28th? |
| 18:48.11 | l33n | paste.debian.net/891165/ |
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| 18:49.17 | libertine | marco |
| 18:49.55 | nkuttler | l33n: what was the question? |
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| 18:50.22 | stefunel | how can I check programatically that the debian-security repos are defined on a machine? |
| 18:50.36 | libertine | I need some alsa help. Need to modify model options in alsa-base.conf and/or alsa.conf and/or .asoundrec and none of those files exist in any of the places they are supposed to be. |
| 18:50.40 | l33n | why am i getting these errors? |
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| 18:51.21 | libertine | I can create them and throw the model options in, but uh, that does seem like a glaring omission. How can I generate an alsa config? |
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| 18:52.15 | nkuttler | l33n: try to run that ucf command with verbose logging |
| 18:52.37 | l33n | sorry what ucf command? |
| 18:52.54 | l33n | i think thats in the script |
| 18:52.55 | l33n | ? |
| 18:52.56 | nkuttler | l33n: the one from your dpkg --configure -a run, the last before dpkg exits |
| 18:54.18 | l33n | do you know how to do what you suggested ie what script to modify? |
| 18:54.42 | l33n | i think im just going to create a new install |
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| 18:55.16 | nkuttler | l33n: you don't need to edit the script, just run the command first to see what the error is |
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| 18:55.36 | nkuttler | l33n: but /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 18:56.23 | nkuttler | l33n: ucf --debug /usr/share/php5/php.ini-production /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini |
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| 18:57.25 | TomTomTosch | stefunel: if apt-cache policy | grep -q http://sercurity.debian.org/; then echo ok; fi |
| 18:58.14 | TomTomTosch | stefunel: you could test some more cases if you need to. |
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| 18:58.52 | l33n | paste.debian.net/891177/ |
| 18:59.45 | nkuttler | l33n: that doesn't look like an error.. echo $? after the command finishes |
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| 18:59.57 | nkuttler | actually.. with sudo that's probably not preserved, so become root |
| 19:01.11 | nkuttler | l33n: fwiw, worst case just purge the offending packages and reinstall them |
| 19:01.37 | l33n | yeah i did that, get the same problem when I reinstall |
| 19:01.43 | l33n | but thanks |
| 19:01.47 | nkuttler | l33n: you did what? |
| 19:02.02 | l33n | purged all the packages |
| 19:02.07 | l33n | autocleaned |
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| 19:02.12 | l33n | then installed again |
| 19:02.12 | nkuttler | l33n: and the config files were really all gone? |
| 19:02.37 | l33n | how do i confirm that |
| 19:02.58 | nkuttler | l33n: ls /usr/share/php5 |
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| 19:03.23 | l33n | theyre still there |
| 19:03.29 | nkuttler | l33n: then you didn't purge |
| 19:03.38 | l33n | so do i need to purge then manually remove these files |
| 19:03.39 | l33n | ? |
| 19:03.45 | nkuttler | which command exactly did you run to purge the package? |
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| 19:03.53 | l33n | apt-get purge php5 |
| 19:04.15 | nkuttler | l33n: did you just run that? |
| 19:04.17 | l33n | yes |
| 19:04.34 | nkuttler | l33n: /usr/share/php5/php.ini-production still there? |
| 19:04.57 | l33n | yes |
| 19:04.59 | nkuttler | l33n: dpkg -S /usr/share/php5/php.ini-production |
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| 19:07.05 | l33n | i got more dpkg-query:warnings then could fit in the prompt |
| 19:07.12 | l33n | when i ran that |
| 19:07.16 | nkuttler | l33n: wat... |
| 19:07.21 | l33n | idk what to call it |
| 19:07.28 | nkuttler | l33n: well, pastebin it |
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| 19:08.01 | l33n | paste.debian.net/891180/ |
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| 19:09.06 | nkuttler | l33n: something is seriously wrong with your system |
| 19:09.11 | l33n | lol |
| 19:09.19 | nkuttler | l33n: did you manually remove stuff in /var/ or somewhere? |
| 19:09.24 | l33n | yes |
| 19:09.28 | nkuttler | l33n: ... |
| 19:09.29 | l33n | i messed up |
| 19:09.35 | l33n | and had to reinstall dpkg |
| 19:09.40 | nkuttler | l33n: well, yeah, reinstall is an option.. |
| 19:09.43 | candidat | hello guys :) |
| 19:09.58 | nkuttler | l33n: or you could manually reinstall every package i guess if you want to avoid that |
| 19:10.21 | candidat | what does installing linux from stratch brings you ? |
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| 19:10.50 | nkuttler | candidat: ask in their irc channel |
| 19:10.50 | Hello71 | why are you asking #debian |
| 19:10.59 | nkuttler | candidat: or ##linux |
| 19:11.08 | candidat | oh oki |
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| 19:11.12 | candidat | sorry about that |
| 19:11.23 | candidat | can t join linux :-( |
| 19:11.48 | nkuttler | candidat: maybe you need nickserv auth |
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| 19:12.05 | candidat | nkuttler, it s invite only |
| 19:12.17 | nkuttler | candidat: ##linux |
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| 19:12.23 | nkuttler | not #linux |
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| 19:12.41 | sudosudosudo | guys is there away to authenticate as sudo in the gui? I'm needing to make a display setting change and everything is grayed out |
| 19:12.50 | nkuttler | sudosudosudo: gksudo |
| 19:13.53 | sudosudosudo | nkuttler: Thanks |
| 19:14.00 | candidat | nkuttler, thanks ! |
| 19:14.56 | flokuehn | 20:13 [ Cork ] [ gonyere ] [ lethu_ ] [ pasturesofplenty] [ sphalerite ] [ zykotick9 ] |
| 19:15.04 | flokuehn | 20:13 [ cornbreadheadman] [ gosling ] [ libertine ] [ patriciam ] [ sphenxes02 ] [ zyley ]parshimers ] [ SpeedyG ] [ Zumochi ] |
| 19:15.11 | flokuehn | 20:13 [ copec ] [ gnugr ] [ Leman1337 ] [ parus ] [ SPF ] [ zwiep` ] |
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| 19:17.56 | gnugr | flokuehn: this is a channel for help, please do not play in here |
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| 19:34.44 | stefunel | TomTomTosch: i will check it out, thanks. am wondering how it might change when i have an internal mirror of that debian-security repo |
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| 19:36.28 | jhutchins | nkuttler: /j linux works for me in irssi. Probably not auth'ed. |
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| 19:47.54 | l33n | hi, i am still unable to use the "java" command even after updating .bashrc |
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| 19:48.43 | l33n | i was able to get it working on a previous install when someone suggested installing a certain package when i had the same problem, forget the package though, any thoughts |
| 19:50.14 | jhutchins | l33n: What's the path to the java executable? Are you sure it's installed? |
| 19:50.21 | jhutchins | !java |
| 19:50.21 | dpkg | Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged; for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" systems, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>, <java-package>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net. |
| 19:50.24 | l33n | yes |
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| 19:50.59 | l33n | PATH=$PATH:~/java/jdk1.8.0_11/bin |
| 19:51.08 | l33n | PATH=$PATH:~/java/jdk1.8.0_111/bin |
| 19:51.11 | l33n | sorry |
| 19:51.51 | jhutchins | l33n: So you didn't install it from the Debian repos. I would imagine that the kit has instructions. |
| 19:52.09 | l33n | well i needed to use the oracle version |
| 19:52.31 | jhutchins | l33n: If it has dependencies in the folder (java often does) it may be easier to symlink it to /usr/local/bin/ |
| 19:52.54 | jhutchins | l33n: You might /msg dpkg install java |
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| 19:58.35 | Hello71 | pretty sure debian has other jres available. |
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| 20:08.50 | jhutchins | Hello71: I think the IBM version maybe? |
| 20:09.11 | jelly | no, openjdk 8 |
| 20:09.52 | jelly | ,v openjdk-8-jdk |
| 20:09.53 | judd | Package: openjdk-8-jdk on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 8u102-b14.1-1~bpo8+1; sid: 8u111-b14-2; stretch: 8u111-b14-2 |
| 20:09.54 | Hello71 | by default openjdk |
| 20:10.08 | jelly | whoops 8u111 not backported yet |
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| 20:10.55 | aatwood | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.09 | Hello71 | Gentoo had a variety of JREs available, but I think oracle 1.7 and IBM were dropped due to nobody wanting to maintain them |
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| 20:14.27 | jelly | ,v openjdk-7-jdk |
| 20:14.28 | judd | Package: openjdk-7-jdk on amd64 -- wheezy: 7u95-2.6.4-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 7u111-2.6.7-1~deb7u1; jessie: 7u111-2.6.7-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 7u111-2.6.7-1~deb8u1; experimental: 7u111-2.6.7-1 |
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| 20:15.05 | jelly | ^^ still in jessie, but oracle's 7 is a 7u121 and I have no idea if the thing in jessie has those security patches |
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| 20:16.24 | TomTomTosch | if it needs to be oracle java, this exists: https://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage |
| 20:16.30 | jelly | (and only customers with a current oracle contract can get oracle 7u121 at all) |
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| 20:49.51 | sudosudosudo | Newb question: My audio sounds very light. I have not manually entered any audio drivers. can any assist on getting solid audio? |
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| 20:58.09 | Hello71 | what is "light" |
| 20:59.41 | sudosudosudo | Hello71: Volume cranked up all the way and it would make a women screaming at you at the top of her lungs sound like a whisper |
| 20:59.59 | Hello71 | are you sure that all the volumes are "cranked up" |
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| 21:00.30 | Hello71 | in alsamixer, pavucontrol if applicable, and hardware controls |
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| 21:01.08 | sudosudosudo | no, not sure at all. any help would be appreciated. I have verified crankage in the web browser only |
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| 21:05.37 | Hello71 | ... you need to actually turn up your system volue |
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| 21:08.49 | sudosudosudo | i was able to make changes that increased the audio volume but the quality of the audio has degraded. sounds like im listening to bootleg audio from the 1980's now. I can hear it though! |
| 21:09.10 | gebruiker | sudosudosudo: compile custom kernel? |
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| 21:09.45 | sudosudosudo | gebruiker: im on 4.7.0.1 |
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| 21:10.13 | gebruiker | what soundcard? |
| 21:11.59 | sudosudosudo | gebruiker: i'm a newb anyway to get the exact info from the command line? |
| 21:12.27 | gebruiker | lspci -v | more |
| 21:12.37 | gebruiker | sudosudosudo: does it work with other distrobutions i.e ubuntu ? |
| 21:14.37 | sudosudosudo | gebruiker: Audio device: intel corporation sunrise point-lp HD audio |
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| 21:17.30 | gebruiker | sudosudosudo: try modprobe snd_hda_codec_realtek |
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| 21:19.39 | sudosudosudo | gebruiker: should i reboot? |
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| 21:21.35 | gebruiker | sudosudosudo: no, try your sound ... in any case are you running jessie? If so best to use kernel that comes with it until you are more skilled to do-it-your-self |
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| 21:22.47 | sudosudosudo | gebruiker: I have a thinkpad t560 that I just got. I was told last night that it was best to run stretch because of my hardware being so new. |
| 21:23.52 | sudosudosudo | gebruiker: audio quality does sound better. could be placebo on my part |
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| 21:25.24 | sudosudosudo | thanks for the help btw |
| 21:25.46 | gebruiker | hmm any output from dmesg that could indicate how your system repsonded to the modprobe? Have you tried playing different types of formwat ? |
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| 21:26.14 | gebruiker | sudosudosudo: perhaps you require non-free firmware... have you ran any other distro on this new laptop? |
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| 21:28.11 | sudosudosudo | gebruiker: nope, I only removed windows and went straight to debian jessie. Kernel was not being friendly with my wireless. I got the recommendation to update to stretch so I did that |
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| 21:28.25 | bionix | hi |
| 21:28.34 | missmbob | whoever told you that should be shot, btw |
| 21:28.51 | missmbob | you can get new kernel from jessie-backports. no need to upgrade to stretch for that |
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| 21:29.11 | missmbob | anyway |
| 21:29.19 | missmbob | !tell sudosudosudo about debian-next |
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| 21:30.14 | t4nk937 | Hi i have a lot of issues with debian testing. I have an ATI 5000 series GPU, and i have bad resolution with default driver, so i have installed (mayb3) proprietari driver, but i have also noises |
| 21:30.28 | missmbob | !tell t4nk937 about debian-next |
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| 21:31.37 | sudosudosudo | missmbob: I saw that in the description. Thanks. :) |
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| 21:32.41 | sudosudosudo | gtg thanks again for all the help |
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| 21:37.02 | rohieb | ohai. against which package do I report bugs in git.debian.org? |
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| 21:37.53 | rohieb | the problem is that urls like http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-samba/samba.git;a=commitdiff;h=f8273e6 get redirected to https://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-samba/samba.git%3ba=commitdiff%3bh=f8273e6 which says "404 - no such project" |
| 21:38.33 | hiyo | Hello I am having trouble with updating/making outside connections on my debian server |
| 21:38.36 | hiyo | I can SSH into it |
| 21:39.02 | hiyo | but going out doesn't happen, the DNS works but it will not connect to any server |
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| 21:53.37 | digdilem | hiya, check the routing - specifically that your default route is pointing to a valid gateway |
| 21:54.06 | digdilem | "route" to check. "route add default gw 192.168.0.1" to set a default gw |
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| 22:01.00 | hiyo | digdilem: SIOCADDRT: File exists |
| 22:01.15 | hiyo | but that's for 192.168.1.1 (my gateway) |
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| 22:03.14 | digdilem | okay. if the route looks alright, try using "traceroute www.google.com" to see where it goes and whether your dns is working |
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| 22:05.18 | hiyo | http://pastebin.com/Cx4XcNUH |
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| 22:06.06 | digdilem | your router is stopping any outbound traffic... |
| 22:06.30 | digdilem | dns is working, so it must be serving that (if you're using the router as a dns host). |
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| 22:10.54 | hiyo | digdilem: its a Frontier (Verizon) router, but the server is placed in a DMZ |
| 22:11.03 | hiyo | it shouldn't be blocked by anything |
| 22:12.47 | digdilem | are you sure the dmz is working as you expect? dmz is usually set for incomming connections, not outbound. is nat working properly? |
| 22:13.26 | hiyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.43 | hiyo | I've been running a couple years on this setup |
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| 22:14.52 | Janhouse | hi! Can I add partition in fstab to mount on boot but do not fail booting if that disk is not available? |
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| 22:19.21 | hiyo | digdilem: Is it defintely a router issue? |
| 22:19.28 | hiyo | Cause that would definitely help |
| 22:20.02 | digdilem | i think so. if that's your gateway, it looks to me that your host is doing the right thing. would welcome input from others though |
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| 22:28.52 | hiyo | digdilem: well I took it out of the DMZ, but nothing so far... |
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| 22:29.56 | ranix | when was the last time you upgraded the firmware on this router |
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| 22:30.21 | hiyo | never |
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| 22:30.36 | ranix | I'll bet you ten bux it's rooted by the lizard squad |
| 22:30.45 | ranix | now might be a good time to update it |
| 22:31.03 | hiyo | lol no I own the domain lizard.company |
| 22:31.11 | ranix | :3 |
| 22:31.29 | hiyo | yeah well its an interesting thing |
| 22:31.41 | hiyo | Because what happened is that this is a new router |
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| 22:32.20 | ranix | most networking issues are resolved by staring at your xterm and typing "route -n" dozens of times until you spot the problem |
| 22:32.57 | ranix | note that many routers will drop icmp by default these days unless you configure them otherwise so pings might not work |
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| 22:33.53 | hiyo | its a very weird issue |
| 22:33.54 | frikinz | these are dumb routers |
| 22:34.01 | frikinz | if they drop icmp... |
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| 22:34.08 | hiyo | because I had an old verizon router |
| 22:34.18 | hiyo | and then this problem showed up middle of last week |
| 22:34.24 | ranix | often if you swap routers you must reboot the cable modem |
| 22:34.39 | hiyo | and then there was a large internet outage in my area (right around the dyn attack) |
| 22:34.56 | hiyo | the router and cable modem are the same thing for verizon |
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| 22:35.08 | ranix | sometimes you'll get some information about the nature of a problem upstream by checking out the router's status (what IP it has, what DNS it's configured to use, etc.) |
| 22:35.28 | ranix | these days the cable modems will often assign you a dhcp ip so you can pull diagnostic info if there's an upstream outage |
| 22:35.35 | hiyo | but then I got them to reconfigure the ONT (fiber to copper box) and they blacklisted the old router since they shipped a new one which I never installed |
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| 22:35.56 | hiyo | so I had to install the new router, which restored the internet to the rest of the new |
| 22:35.58 | hiyo | *net |
| 22:36.12 | hiyo | but for my server it was still not being able to make any outbound connections |
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| 22:36.15 | hiyo | but I can SSH into it |
| 22:36.32 | _mirko_ | in which package is pip3? |
| 22:36.41 | _mirko_ | it's not in python-pip |
| 22:37.02 | _mirko_ | I need it to install https://github.com/mps-youtube/mps-youtube |
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| 22:37.18 | missmbob | python3-pip |
| 22:37.31 | babilen | dpkg: tell _mirko_ -about apt-file |
| 22:37.56 | missmbob | ,v mps-youtube |
| 22:37.57 | judd | Package: mps-youtube on amd64 -- jessie: 0.01.46-3; stretch: 0.2.7.1-2; sid: 0.2.7.1-2 |
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| 22:38.51 | _mirko_ | missmbob: it's outdated package, doesn't work. |
| 22:39.02 | _mirko_ | missmbob: thanks, I'll install using pip3 |
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| 22:40.31 | somiaj | _mirko_: installing python scripts isn't that hard usually. You might be able to install the actual .deb from stretch with no problems (it may not need to be backported). |
| 22:40.48 | somiaj | _mirko_: if you use pip, you should install it in a virtualenv (or /usr/local) |
| 22:41.26 | _mirko_ | somiaj: I'm pretty new to debian, what is strech? |
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| 22:41.38 | _mirko_ | stretch* |
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| 22:41.54 | somiaj | _mirko_: it is the testing release that will become the next debian stable. As you see the bot showed you that version 0.2.7.1 is in stretch. |
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| 22:42.26 | somiaj | _mirko_: in general you don't want to install a .deb for stretch in jessie. But if you are careful it can sometimes work. In this case just being a python script, provided it can run on the python in jessie you will be just fine. |
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| 22:42.58 | somiaj | _mirko_: you can also use pip and install it locally. I'd just use a virtualenv if using pip to install stuff locally (makes it easier to manage) |
| 22:43.15 | missmbob | ,checkbackport mps-youtube |
| 22:43.16 | judd | Backporting package mps-youtube in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: python3-pafy (>= 0.5.1). |
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| 22:43.23 | _mirko_ | somiaj: I usually avoid installing trough pip, npm and such stuff but this time I will. |
| 22:44.03 | mutante | that's very wise do avoid pip |
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| 22:44.40 | somiaj | _mirko_: in this case you can probably download the .deb from packages.debian.org for stretch and install it. |
| 22:44.54 | somiaj | _mirko_: note this is a secpial case, in general you do not want to install software this way. |
| 22:45.34 | somiaj | _mirko_: actually I lied, you'll have to use pip (I missed the ffmpeg requirement) |
| 22:46.02 | missmbob | ffmpeg from jessie-backports should do it though |
| 22:46.14 | somiaj | yea I guess it is ther enow. |
| 22:46.18 | _mirko_ | somiaj: is there a way to enable stretch and get dependencies while installing a package? |
| 22:46.25 | missmbob | NO |
| 22:46.30 | missmbob | do not do that |
| 22:46.44 | somiaj | _mirko_: being new to debian I would say no, don't do that, you may end up having unexpected results. |
| 22:46.50 | ranix | _mirko_: the answer is yes but it will break your stuff |
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| 22:47.24 | somiaj | _mirko_: /msg dpkg ssb (that is the real way you should deal with this, but the libav -> ffmpeg transition between jessie/stretch is going to cause any method you use a little hickup. |
| 22:47.28 | _mirko_ | oh, ok. I'm coming from arch, multilib works that way :) |
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| 22:47.43 | missmbob | you can't ssb that package though |
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| 22:47.54 | missmbob | ,checkbackport mps-youtube |
| 22:47.55 | judd | Backporting package mps-youtube in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: python3-pafy (>= 0.5.1). |
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| 22:48.12 | somiaj | ,v python3-pafy |
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| 22:48.14 | judd | Package: python3-pafy on amd64 -- sid: 0.5.2-2; stretch: 0.5.2-2 |
| 22:49.07 | somiaj | _mirko_: getting newer software that hsa not already been backported takes work in debian jessie. In this case you may have some work as you may also need to install python3-pafy in a virtualenv with pip as well. |
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| 22:51.26 | hiyo | digdilem: thanks for the help. I'll investigate more, but I got a Halloween party to go to. Thanks everyone! |
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| 22:51.51 | _mirko_ | somiaj: installed just mps-youtube using pip3 and it pulled python3-pafy too. Works great, thanks for help :) |
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| 22:55.50 | digdilem | gl, hiya |
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| 23:03.45 | hiya | digdilem, its hiyo with problems not me :D |
| 23:04.08 | digdilem | oop, sorry |
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