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| 00:01.09 | awal1 | mkjakson: bridge-utils installed there? |
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| 00:03.09 | Bennux_dev | Hi!, i've been upgrading my debian testing yesterday and the package mysql-workbench has disappeared. Anyone else has the same problem? |
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| 00:05.29 | Waxhead | On stretch : connecting to a remote xtightvnc server (ssh tunneling) and using gtk3 programgs (virt-manager) will not show the drop down menus or the combobox dropdown. It appears to be at coordinate 0,0 and sometimes just a pixel thin line shows (that is unclickable). It this a known problem with GTK3 / VNC / Xtightvncserver or should I file a bug? |
| 00:05.42 | missmbob | !debian-next |
| 00:05.43 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 00:08.24 | somiaj | Bennux_dev: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=840786 -- that could be the reason. I see it was removed, but the not much of a reson given with that email |
| 00:08.25 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/840786 in src:mysql-workbench (open, patch, sid, stretch): «mysql-workbench: Change libmysqlclient-dev build dependency to default-libmysqlclient-dev»; severity: serious; opened: 2016-10-14; last modified: 2016-10-27. |
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| 00:10.45 | Bennux_dev | thans ;) |
| 00:11.22 | Bennux_dev | thanks* |
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| 00:14.50 | mkjackson | no bridge utils or wicd |
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| 00:19.34 | mkjackson | HA, think I found it (connman) |
| 00:20.06 | mkjackson | thanks everyone for helping put me on the right path (didn't consider the plethora of managers that could be running) |
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| 00:34.43 | ||JD|| | fuck me |
| 00:34.52 | Halbech | hehe |
| 00:35.42 | ||JD|| | dude, this shit of using a single keyboard for 2 machines via KVM is dangerous |
| 00:36.03 | ||JD|| | eventually I will drop my root password on this channel, pretty sure of that |
| 00:36.33 | Halbech | haha that would be surely unfortunate |
| 00:36.47 | ||JD|| | >) |
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| 00:53.33 | mkjackson | "unfortunate" |
| 00:53.54 | mkjackson | Unbr34k4bl3! |
| 00:53.56 | mkjackson | DOH |
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| 01:05.12 | NapoleonWils0n | hi all |
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| 01:05.26 | NapoleonWils0n | i wanted to set up Display Power Management Signaling |
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| 01:05.47 | NapoleonWils0n | normally i create /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ |
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| 01:06.12 | NapoleonWils0n | i notice debian doesnt have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, is it ok to create it |
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| 01:07.51 | xormor | why did debian want to remove so many packages when I upgraded? |
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| 01:11.05 | introom | is there a repo that is for latest software, such as rtags and gnu global ? |
| 01:11.07 | xormor | http://paste.debian.net/892858/ <--- how come/why did it want to remove all these packages? |
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| 01:14.58 | missmbob | introom: no. debian's not "the latest software" kind of distro |
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| 01:15.38 | themill | global is however a particular point of pain |
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| 01:17.02 | introom | missmbob: I am not saying those repo officially supported by debian. I wonder if there are some 3rd party repos on that? cuz too many ppl use global or rtags. |
| 01:17.21 | themill | xormor: your upgrade and packages being autoremovable are unrelated |
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| 01:18.45 | xormor | themill, ok? |
| 01:19.04 | xormor | themill, so why did the upgrade want to remove wine32:i386? |
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| 01:22.01 | themill | my finnish isn't that great and your paste is full of load of irrelevant stuff which makes it hard to spot |
| 01:23.01 | themill | I'm guessing it's because you upgraded the libgnutls-deb0-28:amd64 package and not the libgnutls-deb0-28:i386 package and you can't have different versions of a package on different architectures |
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| 01:26.19 | xormor | themill, ok |
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| 01:29.07 | xormor | themill, do I need to reinstall my debian to fix this mess? |
| 01:29.22 | xormor | themill, how do I get wine32 back? |
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| 01:31.04 | Elwell | Hi all, packaging Q - I've got a binary that I'm trying to package up (just to make my life simpler to deploy). where should *content* that it displays (and will be editable by people) ideally live? |
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| 01:31.59 | Elwell | it's https://info-beamer.com/pi - which comes as a binary only, so will never be official. |
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| 01:47.36 | xormor | themill, I had wine32 removed. I will reinstall my Debian "jessie" 8 stable from a USB memory stick. |
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| 02:12.04 | cast | if i get a skylake laptop to run debian, anyone happen to know if i'll run into drama with the GPU firmware blob rubbish? if i go with straight main debian, how would that impact my desktop experience? |
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| 02:13.37 | cast | I won't be playing any videos, watching youtube, or much beyond xorg, i3, lxterminal and firefox - which i gather doesn't give me much use for video acceleration |
| 02:14.15 | missmbob | you'll need to get xserver-xorg-video-intel firmware-misc-nonfree and linux-image-amd64 from jessie-backports |
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| 02:14.46 | missmbob | then hopefully it'll work. i've seen some need 4.9rc2+ kernel |
| 02:15.11 | cast | when you say "work", if i don't use the nonfree firmware what doesn't work? |
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| 02:15.42 | missmbob | you might not get x working at all |
| 02:16.08 | cast | damn :( |
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| 02:36.34 | asarch | Why Wayland is not reading my ~/.profile nor my ~/.kshrc? |
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| 03:47.44 | valerio | hi, does abybody know why, even with all the right plugins, quodlibet can't play aac files? |
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| 03:49.01 | windmill | Hi. |
| 03:49.19 | windmill | I've got static fuzz in my left headphone when I listen to anything on YouTube. |
| 03:49.29 | windmill | When I rebooted the last time this happened it went away. |
| 03:49.30 | windmill | Any ideas? |
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| 03:50.11 | windmill | Its not just YouTube actually. |
| 03:50.12 | windmill | It's anything. |
| 03:50.37 | missmbob | ...try different headphones |
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| 03:52.00 | windmill | I have just the one pair. |
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| 03:52.10 | missmbob | well they're probably you're issue |
| 03:52.12 | missmbob | your* |
| 03:52.34 | windmill | If they're the issue then why the last time I had this issue did it go away when I rebooted? |
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| 03:53.36 | missmbob | and you've tried rebooting this time? |
| 03:53.42 | windmill | No. I'll do it now. |
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| 03:56.11 | windmill | See, it's resolved. |
| 03:56.25 | windmill | I'm all ready to get a new pair of headphones and a new USB device between my headphones and the computer |
| 03:56.35 | windmill | but when it happens and I reboot, the static fuzz is resolved. |
| 03:56.42 | windmill | So it's something software related. |
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| 03:56.48 | windmill | I use the USB device here: |
| 03:57.09 | windmill | https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0023BYDHK/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB |
| 03:57.26 | windmill | The reason I use this is because if plug in directly to the computer I get headphone noise |
| 03:57.30 | windmill | with this, it's totally silent. |
| 03:57.50 | missmbob | i have no idea what chipset that is or anything about usb audio. what i would try is, assuming you're using jesie, get the new kernel from jessie-backports |
| 03:58.05 | windmill | No, I'm using the latest kernel. |
| 03:58.12 | missmbob | are you in jessie? |
| 03:58.29 | windmill | I use Ubuntu. I came in here because Ubuntu is based on Debian. |
| 03:58.34 | missmbob | !ubuntu |
| 03:58.35 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 03:58.56 | missmbob | sorry. can't support ubuntu in here. it's not even close to the same. they change a lot and it's impossible for us to debug it |
| 03:59.34 | windmill | Ah, I didn't realize they are so different. |
| 03:59.42 | windmill | I'm now asking in #ubuntu. |
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| 04:00.30 | windmill | I figured my USB device might have been an issue because sometimes my headphones have tugged on it and caused it to fall off the ledge I have it on, onto the floor. I figured it could have been damaged. |
| 04:00.42 | windmill | But if the issue goes away (when it happens) when I reboot, it must be software related. |
| 04:00.57 | windmill | Agree? |
| 04:01.37 | missmbob | sounds like it to me |
| 04:02.04 | Rusty1_ | the device is not said to be compatable with linux, so you have your work cut out for you |
| 04:04.34 | windmill | Rusty1_, It's worked flawlessly for me. I don't use any features, I just use it as a soundcard. |
| 04:04.43 | windmill | It's not compatible with Linux probably because the included software doesn't work. |
| 04:05.54 | windmill | Like I said, before I had this I had a hum on my headphone line when plugged into the soundcard on the computer. This made the line completely silent, so it made me happy it accomplished what I purchased it for. |
| 04:07.08 | Rusty1_ | in addition to #ubuntu, #alsa, #pulseaudio and #bluez may or may not be able to help |
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| 04:11.25 | windmill | Not any response in any channel. |
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| 04:12.43 | ||JD|| | windmill: you ask and wait, that's how free support over IRC works, |
| 04:12.50 | Rusty1_ | given the time of day, US and EU , not surprising |
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| 04:14.42 | windmill | What about Australia? |
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| 04:20.42 | hexadecimal | 05:21 and already awake |
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| 04:22.07 | derstrom | hexadecimal: 04:21 and not even asleep |
| 04:22.10 | derstrom | ;) |
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| 04:26.38 | z4g4 | boa noite |
| 04:27.19 | rino | boa noite |
| 04:28.37 | z4g4 | podem ajudar sff... instalei o stretch, mas não estou a conseguir instalar o wine... |
| 04:28.48 | z4g4 | alguém pode dar um dica? |
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| 04:31.19 | missmbob | !pt |
| 04:31.19 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
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| 04:41.50 | z4g4 | im need help, How to install wine on Stretch? |
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| 04:47.07 | missmbob | !debian-next |
| 04:47.07 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 04:48.11 | missmbob | https://wiki.debian.org/Wine is useful |
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| 04:49.46 | z4g4 | @missmbob thanks |
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| 05:07.08 | ||JD|| | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwhv4MxXAAAtCbD.jpg:large |
| 05:07.31 | missmbob | ||JD||: please keep those things in #debian-offtopic |
| 05:08.22 | ||JD|| | alright mom |
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| 05:08.35 | missmbob | !ot |
| 05:08.35 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 05:09.28 | lankanmon | I dont plan on using ZFS righ away |
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| 05:18.18 | antosamalona | can we build ppa in Launchpad even if we are using debian testing? |
| 05:18.35 | antosamalona | I want to distribute my app |
| 05:18.50 | antosamalona | sorry, our app |
| 05:18.52 | missmbob | and have it work/be realiable in debian? no. they get built using ubuntu libraries |
| 05:18.57 | missmbob | also... |
| 05:19.00 | missmbob | !debian-next |
| 05:19.00 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 05:19.35 | antosamalona | missmbob: thank you |
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| 05:36.13 | maddawg2 | is there a way to get a progress bar when using the "cp" command? |
| 05:37.33 | n4dir | try -v |
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| 05:43.55 | CCrazy | or use rsync maybe? |
| 05:44.37 | CCrazy | like rsync --progress -a <source> <destination> |
| 05:45.25 | doubtmama | Guys I want to do my GSoon debianC project |
| 05:45.43 | doubtmama | Can you give me any leads on where to start? |
| 05:45.51 | doubtmama | *GSoC |
| 05:47.37 | CCrazy | Does GSoC stands for Google Summer of Code? |
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| 05:48.16 | doubtmama | Yeah :) |
| 05:49.00 | CCrazy | never done that but one of my friend did that |
| 05:49.20 | CCrazy | are you familiar with GitHub? Do u have a domain name/blog/etc? |
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| 05:52.06 | doubtmama | I am familiar with GitHub but I am not a pro at it and still stumble on some of its commands |
| 05:53.40 | CCrazy | Do you already have a project idea? |
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| 06:05.05 | windu | hi sir! i have problem with repo |
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| 06:07.12 | CCrazy | windu: What's the problem exactly? |
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| 06:07.54 | windu | i try to sudo apt-get install isc-dhcp-server |
| 06:08.04 | windu | but Err:1 http://cloudflare.archive.parrotsec.org/parrot parrot/main amd64 libisccc-export140 amd64 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-10.1 |
| 06:08.12 | windu | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:18.36 | mcgreg | hi |
| 06:18.46 | xormor | mcgreg, hi |
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| 06:19.27 | mcgreg | my KDE boots into an empty screen - no windows , nothing, just empty screen with back ground picture. no error at all |
| 06:19.43 | mcgreg | any idea? anything I can test= check? |
| 06:21.00 | CCrazy | mcgreg: Can you switch to an other tty? Seems like a good old Xorg error, so it would be nice to see some logs |
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| 06:21.42 | mcgreg | I could, other desktop envirements work fine |
| 06:22.38 | mcgreg | ohh dmesg says something, I didnt see that |
| 06:22.52 | mcgreg | [ 7488.377638] plasmashell[11956]: segfault at 8 ip 00007fc609684f37 sp 00007ffcee018c20 error 4 in libQt5Core.so.5.7.1[7fc6093c7000+4cd000] |
| 06:22.52 | mcgreg | [ 7718.113106] plasmashell[12785]: segfault at 8 ip 00007f8e4c63cf37 sp 00007ffc368654a0 error 4 in libQt5Core.so.5.7.1[7f8e4c37f000+4cd000] |
| 06:22.52 | mcgreg | [ 7774.346539] kactivitymanage[11596]: segfault at 7f2cb8155cb0 ip 00007f2cb80dd701 sp 00007ffc0f7680a8 error 4 in libQt5Sql.so.5.7.1[7f2cb80c7000+45000] |
| 06:22.53 | mcgreg | [ 7791.385659] plasmashell[13369]: segfault at 8 ip 00007f75def1cf37 sp 00007ffc76e43840 error 4 in libQt5Core.so.5.7.1[7f75dec5f000+4cd000] |
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| 07:16.46 | gebruiker | what is the default font of the terminal in debian xfce? |
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| 07:18.29 | screamslash | if i have one of those old integrated amd/ati graphics on an old laptop will FGLX help me at all? |
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| 07:20.04 | gebruiker | screamslash: fglrx is no longer used, try the free or firmware-nonfree package first, if that does not help try the fgrlx |
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| 07:20.19 | screamslash | what is it specifically called? |
| 07:20.36 | gebruiker | screamslash: what package are you talking about? |
| 07:20.45 | screamslash | the driver |
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| 07:22.09 | gebruiker | screamslash: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary & https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo . I mentioned 3 driver options. to figure out what the actual name is of the package use: apt-cache search search-term |
| 07:22.31 | screamslash | i got Forbidden |
| 07:22.32 | screamslash | <p>You are not allowed to access this!</p> |
| 07:22.36 | screamslash | when i tried to access those links |
| 07:22.54 | gebruiker | screamslash: works fine here |
| 07:23.16 | gebruiker | screamslash: try googling wiki.debian ait radeon |
| 07:23.43 | gebruiker | replace radeon with what is appropiate |
| 07:23.53 | screamslash | just says im not allowed to access wtf |
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| 07:25.42 | gebruiker | try https://82.195.75.112/AtiHowTo |
| 07:26.02 | screamslash | Forbidden |
| 07:26.03 | screamslash | <p>You are not allowed to access this!</p> |
| 07:26.07 | screamslash | you guys pranking me or something? |
| 07:26.21 | gebruiker | no. It works fine here |
| 07:26.38 | gebruiker | try googling the debian wiki |
| 07:27.21 | screamslash | i did |
| 07:27.27 | screamslash | that site wont let me access it |
| 07:28.05 | gebruiker | Basically add non-free to your sources.list then apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati . for Fglrx also add non-free and then apt-get install aptitude, followed by, aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') fglrx-driver |
| 07:28.31 | gebruiker | Do not forget to apt-get update after modifying the sources.list |
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| 07:39.25 | svisor | just another problem after system upgrade debian wheezy, postfix+courier logs full of "SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to Courier authdaemond: No such file or directory" |
| 07:40.21 | svisor | in previous versions it was enough to create hardlink to /var/run/courier/authdaemon/socket in /var/spool/postfix/, but now I can't create this hardlink |
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| 07:41.39 | svisor | "cd /var/spool/postfix/ && ln /var/run/courier/authdaemon/socket courier-authdaemon-socket" says "ln: failed to create hard link `courier-authdaemon-socket' => `/var/run/courier/authdaemon/socket': Invalid cross-device link" |
| 07:41.54 | svisor | could anybody suggest solution? |
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| 07:41.58 | gebruiker | svisor: i just googled your problem and found http://www.thelazysysadmin.net/2009/08/cannot-connect-to-courier-authdaemond-no-such-file-or-directory/ |
| 07:46.39 | pingfloyd | svisor: are they on separate FSes? |
| 07:47.12 | svisor | gebruiker Ill give it a try |
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| 07:47.55 | svisor | pingfloyd: don't know exactly, hardlink solution worked before upgrade courier packages, how can I find out? |
| 07:48.18 | themill | /run moved to a tmpfs a while back |
| 07:48.57 | svisor | gebruiker: seems that solution works :) |
| 07:49.24 | svisor | now I have time to little think about it :) |
| 07:49.39 | svisor | thank you for your answers :) |
| 07:50.00 | gebruiker | great! thanks for reporting back |
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| 07:53.54 | pingfloyd | svisor: so you'll have to symlink instead |
| 07:54.03 | pingfloyd | svisor: hardlinks can't cross FS boundaries |
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| 08:27.54 | svisor | pingfloyd: If I understand it correctly, the thing that changed after upgrade was /var/run is on another partition now, so it isn't possible to create that hardlink anymore. Another problem was, that I tried to create hardlink/symlink to socket file directly, the key is probably to symlink directory which contains socket file instead. |
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| 08:28.41 | svisor | Am I right or still missing something? |
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| 08:45.12 | Ke | so anyone using debian on arm with self compiled kernel, I still have to force -fno-pic manually there to get any modules to load |
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| 08:45.46 | Ke | also pretty much all non-basic features are broken wrt. modules |
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| 08:46.06 | Ke | like modversions |
| 08:46.37 | Ke | stretch default native toolchain |
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| 09:09.35 | mithilesh | is anyone here diamond |
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| 09:15.40 | man_in_shack | waves |
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| 09:16.01 | man_in_shack | how does the udev persistent-net rules file get generated? |
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| 09:18.53 | dutchfish | man_in_shack, on boot by script if it is not there yet. |
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| 09:19.07 | dutchfish | man_in_shack, at least up to jessie |
| 09:19.15 | man_in_shack | hm ok |
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| 09:20.00 | plasmoduck | Why is Samba using so much CPU time? 59.2 13.8 785M 523M 30263 root 0 S 33:49.61 0 0 /usr/sbin/smbd -D |
| 09:20.05 | man_in_shack | so it'd changed in stretch then? |
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| 09:20.31 | plasmoduck | 59% CPU |
| 09:20.38 | dutchfish | man_in_shack, as far as i can see now, yes, since the new naming scheme incorporated in systemd |
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| 09:21.29 | dutchfish | man_in_shack, eth0 is now on my rig enp0s25 |
| 09:21.54 | man_in_shack | ugh |
| 09:22.18 | man_in_shack | how are those numbers selected? |
| 09:22.19 | dutchfish | man_in_shack, macnaming is quered on ethermac ofr hw |
| 09:22.41 | dutchfish | man_in_shack, read the RFC's |
| 09:23.05 | dutchfish | man_in_shack, or ask #debian-next |
| 09:25.01 | dutchfish | man_in_shack, if i am correct (not sure) udev no longer needs to generate persistant rules for net |
| 09:25.13 | dutchfish | man_in_shack, on stretch |
| 09:25.18 | man_in_shack | right |
| 09:26.13 | man_in_shack | i wonder when systemd is going to run its own kernel |
| 09:26.23 | man_in_shack | it's taking over everything else |
| 09:26.26 | dutchfish | man_in_shack, not likely |
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| 09:26.55 | dutchfish | man_in_shack, dont shoot the messenger |
| 09:27.09 | man_in_shack | can i shoot systemd instead? |
| 09:28.00 | dutchfish | man_in_shack, well, you still can in jessie, but i rather hint you to learn it and take a dive into it, as i am doing, it has also advantages on quiet alot of things |
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| 09:28.56 | dutchfish | man_in_shack, but i admit, old habbits die slowly ;) |
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| 09:33.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | I must say I could say I could do with a little less systemd outside the boot process⦠want to pick your nose? there's a systemd command for it |
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| 09:37.49 | man_in_shack | CutMeOwnThroat: yeah, i much prefer calling /etc/init.d nose-pick restart manually ;) |
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| 09:38.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | man_in_shack, pft⦠what do you know⦠there used to be a program called "finger" |
| 09:38.59 | man_in_shack | $ sudo finger -d /dev/nose |
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| 10:06.30 | slxe2 | debian stable 3.16 kernel probably vulnerable is not it? |
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| 10:08.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | probably patched, is not it? |
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| 10:09.47 | slxe2 | there should be 4.4+ kernel not? |
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| 10:10.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | not in stable |
| 10:10.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, stable |
| 10:10.49 | dpkg | [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, new versions introduced and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Jessie (8.6); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the stable version (ask me about <security backports>). https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
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| 10:12.29 | slxe2 | Does this mean it's all right? |
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| 10:13.42 | slxe2 | ie vulnerability so fixed in 3.16 ) |
| 10:13.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | probably⦠depends what vulnerability youÃre after |
| 10:13.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tracker of doom |
| 10:13.51 | dpkg | The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/ . Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan> http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ |
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| 10:15.11 | slxe2 | okay thank you |
| 10:15.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | yw |
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| 10:28.32 | CCrazy | whoops, dammit IRSSI :D |
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| 10:54.44 | l0llip0p | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.17 | CCrazy | wow, such skill, very irssi :D |
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| 10:56.43 | hexadecimal | lol |
| 10:56.44 | gebruiker | hahaha |
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| 10:59.00 | mtimm_01 | I am installing debian potato on 486. #retro :D |
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| 11:00.30 | SwedeMike | mtimm_01: how much memory do you have in that thing? |
| 11:00.46 | mtimm_01 | 16MB |
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| 11:00.55 | gebruiker | oldskool lol |
| 11:01.05 | mtimm_01 | But I a using NFS, floppys are too slow. :D |
| 11:01.21 | mtimm_01 | gebruiker: Lekker oldskool! :D |
| 11:01.28 | gebruiker | sanely approached |
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| 11:01.34 | gebruiker | hah! hallo :) |
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| 11:02.57 | CCrazy | mtimm_01: respect :D |
| 11:03.08 | SwedeMike | mtimm_01: I once in the 90ties tried to boot on a 2megabyte machine, but it never booted (the kernel was close to 2mb). 4mb booted the system properly, you needed 8 meg ram for X to run. but I guess by 2000 (potato) memory requirements had increased. |
| 11:04.17 | SwedeMike | mtimm_01: but I remember netinstalling by mid-late 90-ties, you didn't need to do it off of floppy (I did that in 1995, 30 floppies, last time) |
| 11:04.46 | CCrazy | SwedeMike: "640K ought to be enough for anyone" |
| 11:05.00 | SwedeMike | CCrazy: well, 2 megabyte ram ran DOS just fine :P |
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| 11:16.54 | mtimm_01 | It seems my network adapter wasnt detected automaticly |
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| 11:17.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | welcome to the 90ies |
| 11:17.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | and no, kernel modules existed, so did modprobe |
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| 11:38.24 | Doxin | how do I tell an init script it should restart the process if it exits without being stopped? |
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| 11:39.25 | teraflops | init as in sysvinit? |
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| 11:44.52 | Doxin | teraflops: yes? |
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| 11:45.38 | teraflops | ok I really hate people doing that "yes?" thing |
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| 11:45.48 | teraflops | good luck mate |
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| 11:46.44 | Doxin | ... |
| 11:47.26 | Doxin | teraflops: I didn't mean to offend. |
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| 11:50.47 | themill | Doxin: sysvinit can't do that. You need a process supervisor instead. |
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| 11:51.10 | i11ega1Code | hello, i can't add ipv6 addresses |
| 11:51.19 | Doxin | themill: alright, thanks! |
| 11:51.54 | themill | (such as systemd) |
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| 11:53.20 | teraflops | i11ega1Code: please elaborate |
| 11:54.54 | i11ega1Code | i try to connect to openvpn, and assign ipv6 on the tun interface http://paste.debian.net/892961/ |
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| 11:56.45 | teraflops | i11ega1Code: the client is linux? |
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| 11:57.00 | i11ega1Code | debian yes |
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| 11:57.31 | teraflops | mind sharing the client.conf too? |
| 11:57.52 | teraflops | looks like there's a missing parameter or an erroneous one |
| 11:58.05 | teraflops | i11ega1Code: Options error: Unrecognized option or missing parameter(s) in [PUSH-OPTIONS]:11: ip-win32 (2.3.4) |
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| 11:59.01 | teraflops | hmm I never tried pushing ipv6 from openvpn itself, I just do bridge mode and dhclient6 |
| 11:59.04 | i11ega1Code | yes and i don't know why it says that |
| 11:59.58 | teraflops | i11ega1Code: well, at least share the ipv6 part |
| 12:00.09 | i11ega1Code | where |
| 12:00.22 | teraflops | in the openvpn server.conf |
| 12:01.05 | teraflops | and the output of `ip -6 a` from the server would be useful too |
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| 12:01.14 | i11ega1Code | its at my vpn provider |
| 12:01.23 | teraflops | oh hmm |
| 12:01.54 | teraflops | provider is a black box isn't it? |
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| 12:02.09 | i11ega1Code | its ipredator |
| 12:02.12 | teraflops | hard to debug then, I think |
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| 12:02.26 | i11ega1Code | i must contact them right? |
| 12:02.35 | Roland- | hi folks, any idea if there is a way to sync iptables between two hosts |
| 12:02.46 | teraflops | whatever it is, if they are a provider you better try to open a ticket first |
| 12:03.08 | i11ega1Code | ok |
| 12:03.20 | i11ega1Code | they have irc support, but there is no ops right now |
| 12:03.30 | i11ega1Code | i might send them an email |
| 12:04.18 | teraflops | i11ega1Code: let me explain myself, it's hard to debug if you miss the server side, and since they are providers if they offer support best bet is open a ticket with them first |
| 12:04.53 | teraflops | i11ega1Code: do they provide the client config file? |
| 12:05.10 | teraflops | i11ega1Code: I meant you wrote it by yourself? |
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| 12:06.13 | i11ega1Code | i have the client config file yes |
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| 12:07.04 | teraflops | but you wrote it or they gave it to you? |
| 12:08.17 | i11ega1Code | they gave it |
| 12:09.48 | teraflops | ah, then try to open a ticket |
| 12:10.02 | i11ega1Code | ok :) |
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| 12:32.43 | toha | Good morning |
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| 13:00.06 | TomTomTo1 | this channel is for support questions. chatting is somewhere else. |
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| 13:02.13 | WormFood | Is there a decent small business class color laser printer that works worth a damn under Linux? I got a Canon printer, but despite the fact that Canon claims it supports Linux, it definitely doesn't. |
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| 13:33.26 | aphorise | I get 'Failed to fetch https://apt.z.cash/pool/main/z/zcash/zcash-1.0.1-amd64.deb' when trying to apt-get install but the path seems valid when I try it from another terminal what could be the issue for why its having network problems connect to host? - I'm also using exacty the same DNS on both machines. |
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| 13:35.58 | WormFood | aphorise, unfortunately that error doesn't say why it failed. |
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| 13:36.36 | WormFood | why not just download the file, and install it with dpkg, or gdebi |
| 13:37.06 | aphorise | WormFood what about the next line: 'E: Internal Error, ordering was unable to handle the media swap' is that like disk swap? |
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| 13:37.40 | abrotman | aphorise: use paste.debian.net, show us the command and full output |
| 13:37.46 | aphorise | WormFood yeah I I'll give that dpkg a try |
| 13:37.51 | abrotman | aphorise: also, include your sources.list |
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| 13:38.06 | WormFood | aphorise, which branch of debian are you using? |
| 13:38.20 | aphorise | 7.8 IIRC |
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| 13:39.26 | WormFood | aphorise, I recommend you use gdebi to install deb's from the commandline |
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| 14:01.35 | hyper_ch | hi there, is there a new vulnerability with PureFTP? The reason I ask is because in the last 24h, fail2ban has blacklisted at least 500 IPs... usually it's like 4-5 IPs over such a time period |
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| 14:08.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | you do? |
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| 14:09.41 | hyper_ch | you do? |
| 14:10.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | no. but that comment unfortunately was to something further up my backlog |
| 14:11.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | have you checked here |
| 14:11.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tracker of doom |
| 14:11.12 | dpkg | The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/ . Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan> http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ |
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| 14:12.17 | hyper_ch | CutMeOwnThroat: thx, can't find anything there |
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| 14:24.52 | veek | how do i snap an oversized google map( i run a virtual desktop so i opened the browser into multiple desktops) |
| 14:25.14 | veek | the firefox plugins just capture what's visible on screen |
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| 14:25.31 | veek | and shutter totally fails with window capture |
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| 14:29.23 | lezsakdomi | veek: Um... Just an idea: Make a new virtual display, connect thru VNC and see the vnc window on the more desktop. Then you can easily capture it with for ex. shutter. Or something similar |
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| 14:30.47 | lezsakdomi | And the importand: Make the virtscreen big! |
| 14:31.11 | veek | lezsakdomi, hmm i tried xwinfo and xwd but i get xwd -id 0x2400022 > /tmp/x |
| 14:31.21 | veek | X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) |
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| 14:31.29 | Tom01 | I am running Debian 8 in Parallels. But the Mouse-Pointer is too fast, even on the lowest Setting. Xinput an xset are not working. Is there a way to slow down the Mouse-Pointer? |
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| 14:35.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, big virtual screen in vnc is a possibility, I thin I did that |
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| 14:36.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | although not without problems |
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| 14:40.02 | Lostfile | so if i installed debain with no desktop or gui i could pretty much pick and chose what login manager and desktop i wanted |
| 14:40.04 | cruncher | Tom01, what do you mean by "not working" |
| 14:40.26 | Tom01 | cruncher: They are not slowing down the Mouse. |
| 14:40.37 | Lostfile | sort of like freebsd |
| 14:40.46 | cruncher | whats the exact xset command you trieD? |
| 14:41.56 | cruncher | Tom01, , did you try to turn it off with xset m 0 0? |
| 14:42.12 | Tom01 | cruncher: yes |
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| 14:42.43 | cruncher | tom01, you can also try to enter decimal values xset m 0.1 0.1 |
| 14:42.48 | abrotman | Lostfile: yes |
| 14:42.54 | abrotman | Lostfile: and many do this |
| 14:43.01 | cruncher | i mean try if it slows it down more |
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| 14:45.12 | Tom01 | xset m 0 0 slows down the Mouse. But it is still a little bit too fast. |
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| 14:46.27 | Tom01 | not so little |
| 14:47.05 | cruncher | tom01, you can also try to play with module options (resolution,rate) for the module of the mouse (i guess psmouse) |
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| 14:57.03 | lezsakdomi | Is there a command similar to xargs but supports pipes in it? |
| 14:57.46 | hexnewbie | lezsakdomi: Supports pipes in it? |
| 14:59.27 | lezsakdomi | Soo... >find ... | xargs 'cmd1 | cmd1'< It is'nt possible, starting from xargs's concept. |
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| 15:00.26 | hexnewbie | lezsakdomi: Naturally, xargs runs programs, not shell commands. But you can run a shell in xargs. |
| 15:00.58 | lezsakdomi | Oh, thats the solution! Thanks! |
| 15:01.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | there is a -c switch to bash |
| 15:02.04 | hexnewbie | lezsakdomi: find ... -print0 | xargs -0 /bin/bash -c 'cmd1 "$@" | cmd2' ignored |
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| 15:21.40 | \\Mr_C\\ | https://www.facebook.com/gatonegromendoza/photos/a.800187683456808.1073741841.312089532266628/800189220123321/?type=3&theater# contest for the heck of it like or share as #hailastor |
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| 15:23.59 | abrotman | \\Mr_C\\: I think you have the wrong channel |
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| 15:24.12 | \\Mr_C\\ | oh okay |
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| 15:27.30 | sauerkirsche | hi, to those using ZFS on debian, can you advise of how it performs from a performance/stability perspective? |
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| 15:29.30 | maddawg2 | may i ask what exactly is the logic of not including sudo in debian? |
| 15:29.34 | maddawg2 | seems like an odd choice |
| 15:29.42 | maddawg2 | i have to add it everytime myself |
| 15:29.50 | sauerkirsche | only if you specify a password for root |
| 15:29.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | it is included, you can install it with one command |
| 15:30.06 | maddawg2 | then that's not included CutMeOwnThroat |
| 15:30.10 | maddawg2 | if you have to install it |
| 15:30.33 | maddawg2 | also secodnly it's not one command to set up... you have to manually add the users to the sudo group and sudoer file |
| 15:30.38 | sauerkirsche | if you leave the root pwd blank the first user you create will be in the sudoers and sudo will be installed |
| 15:30.46 | maddawg2 | ah |
| 15:30.53 | maddawg2 | interesting didnt know that |
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| 15:32.55 | abrotman | maddawg2: Depends how you setup the installation. And not everyone uses sudo, so why install it if you don't intend to use it. It's easily misonfigured to allow excessive access |
| 15:33.18 | sauerkirsche | I just tested - that doesn't mean that you end up with a root user with a blank password. |
| 15:33.21 | maddawg2 | i just dont think it's good practice to run anything as root IMO |
| 15:33.42 | abrotman | maddawg2: No one is suggesting you do that |
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| 15:33.58 | maddawg2 | debian is the first that i've seen where it wasnt just the default to have sudo |
| 15:34.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | you do run things with root using sudo |
| 15:34.21 | maddawg2 | yes but you can audit those |
| 15:34.26 | maddawg2 | and see who ran the sudo command |
| 15:34.34 | maddawg2 | not just see root installed or modified something |
| 15:34.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | and you don't even have the protection of an additional non-user password |
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| 15:34.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | that only ever makes sense when several people share one root account |
| 15:34.55 | abrotman | maddawg2: or I can only see that someone ran sudo su -, and hten lose all tracking .. |
| 15:35.16 | maddawg2 | CutMeOwnThroat, or several people who administer a server in general |
| 15:35.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | or you can't see that someone removed the tracking |
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| 15:35.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | where's the difference |
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| 15:35.35 | sauerkirsche | sudo grep root /etc/shadow |
| 15:35.35 | sauerkirsche | root:!:17108:0:99999:7::: |
| 15:35.37 | maddawg2 | giving all of them the root password isnt good |
| 15:35.40 | maddawg2 | especially for a company |
| 15:35.53 | maddawg2 | because if they ever leave i have to change every linux servers root password |
| 15:35.58 | SynrGy | maddawg2: believe it or not, the idea that it's the default to have sudo is a relatively recent idea. it was likely influenced by ubuntu's decision to do that, and that was probably driven by the huge number of newbies who can't wrap their minds around having a separate root password. |
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| 15:35.59 | maddawg2 | as opposed to having just one or two people know it |
| 15:36.02 | sauerkirsche | per the above, if you leave the password blank it will lock the root acct and give sudo permissions to the first created user |
| 15:36.10 | maddawg2 | with sudo i can just disable their account across all my systems |
| 15:36.16 | maddawg2 | and not have to worry baout password changes |
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| 15:36.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | because debian is only used in companies with xxx yyy setup, everything has to be pre-configured for exactly that use? |
| 15:36.31 | maddawg2 | sauerkirsche, thanks for that info. i was not aware of that.. so it's good to know |
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| 15:36.43 | maddawg2 | CutMeOwnThroat, what? |
| 15:36.54 | maddawg2 | i dont think you get the point |
| 15:37.12 | maddawg2 | if every person had the root password if someone left said company you'd have to change it for every server |
| 15:37.29 | abrotman | if you're going to allow someone to run a root shell with sudo, then the granular control and tracking of sudo is useless |
| 15:37.34 | maddawg2 | whereas with sudo i only need to disable account and not worry about the root since only a few trusted people have it |
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| 15:37.55 | maddawg2 | no cuz i can see what user ran sudo -i at a certain time |
| 15:37.57 | abrotman | maddawg2: Regardless, you understand why sudo wasn't installed by default now, yes? |
| 15:37.58 | SynrGy | maddawg2: i think we all understand the benefits of using sudo. but what you're describing is not a "default use case" |
| 15:38.01 | sauerkirsche | it is what it is. A degree of control is afforded in the current setup |
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| 15:38.32 | maddawg2 | SynrGy, yes i understand what everyone is saying... i was just saying this is the first linux distro i've used where it hasn't been the default use case |
| 15:38.53 | abrotman | maddawg2: Until 10 (?) years ago, sudo was rarely installed, by any distro |
| 15:38.56 | SynrGy | maddawg2: well, it was "the norm" for me until ubuntu |
| 15:38.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | maddawg2, I run debian on my desktop, there is debian on all kinds of machines and you describe one scenario out of a 100 and say everyone else who doesn't want sudo should uninstall it |
| 15:39.20 | sauerkirsche | fwiw sudo isnt installed by default on FreeBSD either |
| 15:39.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | because it may (or may not) be the right scenario for that one out of 100 |
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| 15:39.37 | abrotman | checked, doesn't have sudo installed on a gnome-based stretch box |
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| 15:41.43 | aaro | sudo is an ubuntu thing as SynrG remarked, the historical default is to have root |
| 15:41.51 | maddawg2 | i never said people should uninstall sudo |
| 15:41.53 | maddawg2 | lol |
| 15:42.13 | abrotman | suggests we move on .. |
| 15:42.23 | maddawg2 | suggestions are nice |
| 15:42.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | we actually have a factoid that sums it up |
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| 15:44.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | bah⦠can't find it. something about half of the people complaining that the minimal install is too big, the other half complaining that stuff is missing from the base install |
| 15:45.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah yes⦠"minimal install" |
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| 15:45.37 | th0r | suggestions are very nice |
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| 15:49.15 | bionix | sudo rm -rf / |
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| 15:49.51 | sauerkirsche | so is anyone running zfs atop debian? |
| 15:49.51 | maddawg2 | thats not nice to say in a place where there are ppl seeking support and might not know what that does |
| 15:49.54 | abrotman | bionix: That's not amusing, don't do that |
| 15:50.10 | abrotman | sauerkirsche: many people, but they may not be awake at the moment |
| 15:50.10 | maddawg2 | lol |
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| 15:50.35 | lowee_ | Hello, i have been trying to install debian/kfreebsd testing in a virtual machine (Virtualbox) , but i get an error stating that the network mirror i chose does not support my architecture everytime. |
| 15:50.38 | maddawg2 | i just left ubuntu as my distro of choice and came to debian |
| 15:50.43 | abrotman | lowee_: I answered you on the other network |
| 15:50.44 | sauerkirsche | no probs just wanted to get any advice before I try it myself |
| 15:50.45 | maddawg2 | much better performance than ubuntu |
| 15:50.48 | sauerkirsche | ill just go ahead and do it |
| 15:50.58 | maddawg2 | also ubuntu seems to be getting worse with every release |
| 15:51.11 | texnofobix | I like debian with docker containers |
| 15:51.45 | lowee_ | abrotman: ? |
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| 16:01.10 | sauerkirsche | is docker suitable for running a linux build with a desktop environment? |
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| 16:05.00 | cra1g321 | sauerkirsche, why would someone want to ? :/ |
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| 16:06.19 | sauerkirsche | cra1g321 to run desktop applications on a server (ie. separation of roles) ? |
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| 16:08.43 | sh00p | sauerkirsche, i run zfs with debian |
| 16:09.04 | sh00p | it's pretty sweet, i've only dipped my toes in it but it's running real smooth |
| 16:09.06 | sauerkirsche | sh00p, just wanted to know if there's any gotchas or performance/security issues? |
| 16:09.11 | sh00p | replacing a drive was a breeze |
| 16:09.22 | sh00p | not afaik |
| 16:09.31 | sauerkirsche | cool |
| 16:09.41 | sauerkirsche | well of course I'll test it first |
| 16:10.14 | sh00p | yeah try it, you might like |
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| 16:11.04 | sauerkirsche | I guess installing debian on ZFS won't be an option? |
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| 16:16.55 | coreyfarrell | can anyone point me to docs on how to setup openconnect vpn to autostart on a debian jesse headless server (cubox/armhf if that matters). I need systemd to start the VPN before starting asterisk.service at boot. |
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| 16:23.26 | Cueball | Hi all. I have a weird IPv6 issue where I can ping out to a host but connections just time out. i.e. IRC, www, etc will time out but I can ping happily. Anything I can check? |
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| 16:25.23 | Lostfile | its ipv6 connections allow thro your firewall if you have one |
| 16:25.39 | sh00p | sauerkirsche: no i wouldn't use zfs as root filesystem |
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| 16:26.20 | Lostfile | yes that would not be a good idea |
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| 16:26.28 | sauerkirsche | why not? |
| 16:26.54 | sauerkirsche | I dont mean with redundancy or compression |
| 16:27.00 | JyZyXEL | every time i run a schroot environment, there are more entries added to the output of "mount" |
| 16:27.03 | JyZyXEL | is that supposed to happen? |
| 16:27.13 | sh00p | i had the mounts drop once after a kernel upgrade |
| 16:27.24 | sh00p | bug in the packaging probably |
| 16:27.29 | sauerkirsche | sh00p, okay good enough reason |
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| 16:27.47 | JyZyXEL | the mount entries are completely insane and non-sensical |
| 16:28.06 | sh00p | yeah that happens to me also JyZyXEL |
| 16:28.10 | sh00p | you can clean em up |
| 16:28.14 | sh00p | but be careful |
| 16:28.24 | sh00p | i rm'd my entire home dir once trying to clean old schroot sessions |
| 16:28.26 | JyZyXEL | i mean look at this crap: https://paste.debian.net/893012/ |
| 16:28.41 | sh00p | yeah looks very familiar |
| 16:28.43 | JyZyXEL | looks like schroot is completely failing at bind mounts |
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| 16:29.27 | sh00p | there is a command, schroot --all-sessions --end |
| 16:29.28 | sh00p | or something like that |
| 16:29.37 | Cueball | Lostfile: No rules on my firewall for IPv6. This has worked until recently. |
| 16:29.41 | JyZyXEL | and when i exit from a schroot there are usually messages like "E: 10mount: umount: /run/schroot/mount/testing-9687ceea-fbda-430b-80f3-058b8eb5cbf3/dev/shm: target is bus" |
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| 16:30.06 | sh00p | you use lvm JyZyXEL? |
| 16:30.10 | JyZyXEL | yes |
| 16:30.11 | sh00p | i read that lvm was to blame for all this |
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| 16:30.44 | JyZyXEL | should i switch to systemd-nspawn? would that be better? |
| 16:31.03 | sh00p | not sure, if you find a solution please share :) |
| 16:32.42 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: that 'target is bus' messge about /dev/shm sounds like something is still running that is connected to dbus in the schroot, or some other socket. If you make a paste of the schroot config i can take a look but it's been a while since i used it |
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| 16:32.57 | Lostfile | Cueball: oh maybe somthing crashed |
| 16:33.05 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: systemd-nspawn is pretty easy to use too |
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| 16:33.44 | JyZyXEL | jmcnaught: but when i do "exit" in the schroot shell, shouldn't that kill everything? |
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| 16:34.27 | Cueball | Lostfile: The server has been rebooted but noting has crashed since reboot. |
| 16:34.31 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: one would think. what is running in the schroot? |
| 16:34.44 | JyZyXEL | well i was trying to run Xorg |
| 16:34.50 | Cueball | Lostfile: There's not much that can crash when it comes to routing mind. |
| 16:34.51 | JyZyXEL | but all i got was a black screen |
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| 16:35.16 | Lostfile | oh i see your using a ipv6 tunnel server or somthing |
| 16:35.32 | JyZyXEL | i installed Xorg+fluxbox+lightdm in the schroot and tried to make it work but no cigar |
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| 16:36.01 | JyZyXEL | i got Xorg to start up but the vt8 would just remain completely black |
| 16:36.21 | JyZyXEL | even had a dedicated graphics card for it |
| 16:36.22 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: there could be clues in the Xorg log from the chroot then |
| 16:36.53 | JyZyXEL | jmcnaught: well i couldn't spot any obvious clues: https://gist.github.com/fld/868e2c63b98c138ec6a73bad10c3aaf1 |
| 16:37.06 | JyZyXEL | other than the: (EE) /dev/dri/card1: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied |
| 16:37.26 | JyZyXEL | but i thought that wouldn't completely black out the screen |
| 16:37.46 | Lostfile | could it be a address problem no its ipv6 you shouldnt have a problem with that |
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| 16:38.13 | JyZyXEL | though maybe if the radeon driver is trying to use glamore, then it might |
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| 16:39.07 | Lostfile | your using AMD im guessing |
| 16:39.29 | JyZyXEL | yeah, although it does find my Intel card as-well, which is in use by the stable Xorg |
| 16:39.30 | Lostfile | i think ubuntu droped support for AMD drivers |
| 16:40.05 | Lostfile | as well as some other disros |
| 16:40.09 | Lostfile | i think |
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| 16:40.55 | JyZyXEL | if i can't get this to work from a chroot, then the only option is to fully virtualize |
| 16:40.56 | maddawg2 | mmmm |
| 16:40.57 | Lostfile | i dont know if debian droped support for it yet |
| 16:40.58 | maddawg2 | https://quickbox.io/ |
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| 16:42.54 | JyZyXEL | maybe i should reboot and try converting my schroot setup into a systemd-nspawn based solution |
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| 16:43.35 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: do a Ctrl+F for (EE), the first one for example is: (EE) /dev/dri/card1: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied |
| 16:44.02 | JyZyXEL | jmcnaught: yeah, but would that be enough to cause the display output stay completely black? |
| 16:44.27 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: is /dev bind mounted into the chroot? i've never tried running Xorg in a chroot, only X11 applications connected to my regular Xorg server |
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| 16:45.15 | JyZyXEL | jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/893023/ |
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| 16:46.20 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: this is your fstab? for the mounts for your chroot, you need the second field for each line to use the full path to the chroot |
| 16:46.36 | JyZyXEL | it's the /etc/schroot/desktop/fstab |
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| 16:47.25 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: so not "/lib/modules /lib/modulesâ¦" but "/lib/modules /path/to/chroot/lib/modulesâ¦" for example (and you can do all of this in your /etc/fstab on the host) |
| 16:47.26 | JyZyXEL | jmcnaught: the first entries are there by default and they don't have the full path either |
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| 16:48.05 | jmcnaught | oh i see, it says the mount point will be prefixed with the chroot path⦠|
| 16:48.05 | mns | I rsync'd my home directory from another machine to a newer machine. I should now be able to ssh into the new machine without being asked for a password. Yet it asks for a password. What have I missed ? The sshd_config is the same as on the old machine, verified by using diff -u. |
| 16:48.14 | JyZyXEL | jmcnaught: yeah, that sounds right |
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| 16:48.38 | mns | the old system was a PowerMac, the new one is a HP system |
| 16:49.22 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: well, having those mountpoints in your /etc/fstab is an option. To me it looks like something is connecting to dbus of the host, where you probably don't want dbus to be shared between host and chroot |
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| 16:50.03 | jmcnaught | mns: ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the new machine has your SSH public key? |
| 16:50.21 | JyZyXEL | maybe it would result in a cleaner behaviour if i just did all my bind mounts in the host fstab |
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| 16:50.52 | mns | jmcnaught: yes it has the pub key of the client I'm trying to connect from (my iMac) |
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| 16:51.15 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: it could. i would also try not bind mounting /dev/shm and /run (but i don't know if that will help) |
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| 16:52.18 | jmcnaught | mns: you can add "-v" up to three times to the ssh command to increase verbosity. You can also look at "/var/log/auth.log" or output from "journalctl -u ssh" on the server |
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| 16:52.21 | JyZyXEL | im not quite sure what all is required to run Xorg |
| 16:52.46 | JyZyXEL | i was inteding to run a whole Plasma 5 desktop in the chroot |
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| 16:53.50 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: it would need a /run and /dev/shm in the chroot, but you could try making new tmpfs mount points for the chroot (instead of bind mounting the existing ones) |
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| 16:55.34 | JyZyXEL | so in my host fstab it would be like: /run /chroot/testing/run tmpfs |
| 16:55.47 | mns | jmcnaught: done both of those, and haven't seen anything that indicates any issues. I'll try with -vvv, as I'd only gone as far as -vv |
| 16:56.08 | JyZyXEL | and it would be a empty tmpfs filesystem? |
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| 16:56.14 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: well.. i'm saying to try *not* bind mounting /run and /dev/shm but to make new tmpfs mount points |
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| 16:56.52 | JyZyXEL | never created a tmpfs, but i just assume it would be done like so |
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| 16:57.32 | SynrGy | OS-24695: better change your password now |
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| 17:00.09 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: indeed, systemd normally makes the tmpfs mounts without them needing to be in /etc/fstab, but you're doing weird stuff by trying to run Xorg in a schroot |
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| 17:01.17 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: there are some examples in tmpfs(5) |
| 17:01.25 | JyZyXEL | yeah, im starting to really doubt if this is even worth the trouble as i could just use Qemu/KVM |
| 17:02.35 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: if your motherboard supports IOMMU aka VT-d then it could be worth a try |
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| 17:05.58 | JyZyXEL | jmcnaught: yeah, i use it all the time with my Win7 VM |
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| 17:10.17 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: you could try with systemd-nspawn using --bind with /dev/tty9 and any other directories or files you need. Then something like 'X :9 vt9 ; export DISPLAY=:9' |
| 17:11.34 | JyZyXEL | yeah im gonna give systemd-nspawn a try before i go virtual |
| 17:12.35 | JyZyXEL | hopefully jessies systemd isn't too old for it to not work properly |
| 17:12.55 | JyZyXEL | because i noticed they backported a much newer version for jessie for some reason |
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| 17:13.35 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: i've been pretty tempted to use the systemd in jessie-backports, if only for the nssmymachines |
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| 17:14.23 | JyZyXEL | yeah, it's just... how many things will break :p |
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| 17:15.41 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: if it helps, systemd-nspawn has an instantiated service that you can use for containers in /var/lib/container "systemctl start systemd-nspawn@foo" |
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| 17:17.54 | JyZyXEL | jmcnaught: is there a man page for it? |
| 17:18.31 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: for the instantiated service? |
| 17:18.37 | JyZyXEL | yeah |
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| 17:19.36 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: it's mentioned in the systemd-nspawn man page. Look at /lib/systemd/system/systemd-nspawn@.service to see how it works (don't edit that file) |
| 17:20.41 | jmcnaught | JyZyXEL: make overrides in /etc/systemd/system/systemd-nspawn@.service.d/ (here's my networking.conf from there: [Service] |
| 17:20.44 | jmcnaught | ExecStart= |
| 17:20.46 | jmcnaught | ExecStart=/usr/bin/systemd-nspawn --quiet --keep-unit --boot --link-journal=try-guest --private-network --network-veth --directory=/var/lib/container/%i |
| 17:21.07 | jmcnaught | sorry, i thought i had a pastebin URL in my clipboard, but that's it ^^ |
| 17:21.55 | jmcnaught | http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/instances.html this blog introduces the general concept of instantiated services |
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| 17:24.09 | JyZyXEL | ah, that should get me going |
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| 17:27.59 | dabydob | Hi |
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| 17:28.57 | Lostfile | dabydob: ello |
| 17:29.21 | dabydob | I`ve installed a certificate using "dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificate", and I can verify the certificate has been installed to /etc/ssl/certs, but it isn`t working. I`m not sure what I am missing. |
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| 17:31.43 | jmcnaught | dabydob: did you follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/ca-certificates? |
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| 17:53.52 | CtrlC | What's the difference between -d and --to-destination options exactly in iptable command? I can't find --to-destination in the man page. |
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| 17:54.33 | bionix | i'm so sorry |
| 17:54.39 | bionix | for my bad joke |
| 17:54.59 | CtrlC | Hi sorry, I'm CtrlC. |
| 17:55.15 | CtrlC | (sorry for bad joke) |
| 17:55.19 | bionix | lol :) |
| 17:55.23 | Lostfile | lwal |
| 17:55.31 | bionix | Do you know CtrlV ? |
| 17:55.38 | CtrlC | He's my twin. |
| 17:55.43 | Lostfile | i see |
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| 18:00.45 | CtrlC | Here's the command if that helps: sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d $host_ip --dport $host_port -j DNAT --to-destination $guest_ip:$guest_port |
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| 18:02.46 | CtrlC | I found docs for it over here: https://linux.die.net/man/8/iptables |
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| 18:06.13 | drmagoo | CtrlC: Why do you want to specify the source port? Normally you only specify the destination port ($host_port), since source port is normally a "random" port |
| 18:06.50 | CtrlC | drmagoo, I have no clue why they did that. I didn't write it. |
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| 18:07.55 | drmagoo | CtrlC: Sorry, I was to quick, didnt read it properly =) |
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| 18:08.16 | CtrlC | drmagoo, so it have no issues? |
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| 18:10.10 | drmagoo | CtrlC: It looks correct, "-d $host_ip --dport $host_prot" tells what the client will "call" when connecting. "-j DNAT --to-destination $guest_ip: 4quest_port" tells iptables what to do with the incoming traffic. |
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| 18:11.09 | CtrlC | drmagoo, is it correct that the $host_ip and port belong to the match and the guest_ip and port belong to the target? |
| 18:11.40 | CtrlC | and their both destination? :/ |
| 18:11.46 | CtrlC | they're* |
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| 18:13.12 | CtrlC | seems they are. thanks. |
| 18:13.14 | drmagoo | CtrlC: What are you trying to do ? |
| 18:13.29 | CtrlC | drmagoo, porting that command to python. |
| 18:14.09 | CtrlC | drmagoo, using this lib: http://ldx.github.io/python-iptables/ |
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| 18:14.45 | drmagoo | CtrlC: ok, but what do you want the rule to do ? |
| 18:15.03 | Cueball | You really notice all the IPv6 sites when your IPv6 is broken! |
| 18:16.10 | CtrlC | drmagoo, It is trying to route a port to a lxd container. |
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| 18:17.06 | drmagoo | CtrlC: Then it looks ok, as long as the box running the rule knows the route to $guest_ip |
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| 18:17.34 | CtrlC | drmagoo, so I need to run a similar command on the box too. right? |
| 18:17.57 | CtrlC | but with different ip and ports. |
| 18:18.13 | CtrlC | oh that won't work out I guess. |
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| 18:18.25 | CtrlC | No it will. |
| 18:18.32 | CtrlC | idk it's confusing a bit. |
| 18:18.56 | CtrlC | man, I'm missing our devops. |
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| 18:19.49 | drmagoo | CtrlC: On the host, hosting the lxd containers, you will need to add that rule. But on the lxd container you will not. |
| 18:20.33 | CtrlC | drmagoo, so I don't need to run it in two places.right? |
| 18:21.01 | CtrlC | That command is going to get ran on the host. what else am I supposed to do? |
| 18:21.21 | drmagoo | CtrlC: $host_ip will be the ip of the machine hosting the lxd containers. $guest_ip will be the ip of the lxd container |
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| 18:22.24 | CtrlC | drmagoo, yeah. my bad. I thought you meant I need to set something else beside that too. Thank you. |
| 18:22.34 | drmagoo | CtrlC: np! |
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| 18:23.29 | CtrlC | Does anyone know if we can somehow seperate the guest_ip and port in the following command to two options instead of one? sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d $host_ip --dport $host_port -j DNAT --to-destination $guest_ip:$guest_port |
| 18:24.29 | mns | what sort of log/system monitoring tools do people recommend ? I've got debian/testing/i386. basically I want to be able to monitor my ssh, web and email traffic, to keep any eye out for things. Nagios might be overkill since I only have one system that does everything at the moment. |
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| 18:25.02 | CtrlC | Seems it is not possible. |
| 18:25.08 | drmagoo | CtrlC: I think that if you dont specify $guest_port, it will use $host_port instead.. But not sure. I always specify that port |
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| 18:27.06 | otyugh_II | hey |
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| 18:27.36 | otyugh_II | I'm trying to use wmctrl for the first time. I don't get how to use it by window ID |
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| 18:28.35 | valerio | hi, does abybody know why, even with all the right plugins, quodlibet can't play aac files? |
| 18:28.46 | otyugh_II | wmctrl -a 0x02a001f3 isn't the good synthax ? |
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| 18:30.11 | otyugh_II | valerio : have you installed libaac0 ? |
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| 18:30.41 | otyugh_II | nah sorry this was a try, but I think it's another stuff x) |
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| 18:31.08 | valerio | otyugh_II, there is no libaac0 i think |
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| 18:31.53 | otyugh_II | I have not a clue ;o |
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| 18:32.11 | valerio | it's very strange because audacious can play them |
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| 18:32.41 | otyugh_II | did you checked the quodlibet dependencies ? |
| 18:32.51 | otyugh_II | maybe there is optionnal stuff you are looking for |
| 18:33.01 | otyugh_II | apt-cache show quodlibet |
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| 18:34.02 | otyugh_II | gstreamer-plugins-bad ? |
| 18:34.19 | otyugh_II | still guessing >.> |
| 18:34.25 | valerio | mh i'm checking |
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| 18:35.02 | otyugh_II | did you check if quodlibet was giving any valuable error while trying to read ? |
| 18:35.09 | otyugh_II | most of the time you want to go from that |
| 18:35.19 | valerio | otyugh_II, thank you. i was installing the gstreamer0.something plugins, but now i have discovered that there is also a gstreamer1.0 set |
| 18:35.39 | valerio | yes, i was googling the errors it gave me but nothing about debian came out |
| 18:35.46 | otyugh_II | I hope it's just that. |
| 18:35.51 | valerio | yes, now it's working |
| 18:35.54 | otyugh_II | o/ |
| 18:35.56 | valerio | it's a bit messy anyway |
| 18:36.01 | otyugh_II | ^^ |
| 18:36.16 | otyugh_II | I'm more a user of clementine for now |
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| 18:38.34 | valerio | yes, but i'm on xfce right now, so it's more fitting i think |
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| 18:39.40 | otyugh_II | light hue ? |
| 18:39.57 | otyugh_II | I very like the cantata + mpd thing too :p |
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| 18:40.19 | valerio | are you under a qt de? |
| 18:40.23 | humbag | mpd :D |
| 18:40.24 | otyugh_II | support of podccast is mandatory for me. |
| 18:40.50 | valerio | i'm too lazy and too distro hopping for configuring mpd |
| 18:40.56 | otyugh_II | well |
| 18:41.01 | otyugh_II | I did not configure it |
| 18:41.18 | otyugh_II | I just written where the music directory was, and did nothing :o |
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| 18:41.40 | valerio | well then someday i will try it |
| 18:41.48 | otyugh_II | it's not a mail server :D |
| 18:42.00 | otyugh_II | (I still fail setting one properly, frustratiiiing :o) |
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| 18:42.19 | valerio | yes, but ql just works, and i'm fine with it.. |
| 18:42.28 | otyugh_II | o/ |
| 18:42.31 | otyugh_II | Great then |
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| 18:43.12 | otyugh_II | I just like to show off the best that I found so that eventually I learn about a new awesom software doing what I like :p |
| 18:43.30 | lowee_ | hello, where can i find support for debian/kfreebsd? |
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| 18:44.08 | toha | hey guys |
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| 18:45.50 | toha | Can anyone here point me in the right direction: "x.y no irq handler for vector (irq -1)" |
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| 18:49.28 | toha | No one? |
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| 18:55.58 | dutchfish | toha, might be a quirck of your bios, inside /etc/default/grub there is a line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" \ You could try "quiet splash pci=nomsi,noaer" for the line, some reported to fix those with that option. |
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| 18:56.28 | valerio | i have another question for you guys, what (simple!) backup method are you using? best if it's a gui program.. |
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| 18:58.18 | missmbob | i use rsync. that's a gui wrapper for it i've never used |
| 18:58.20 | missmbob | ,grsync |
| 18:58.28 | missmbob | ,v grsync |
| 18:58.30 | judd | Package: grsync on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.2.0-1; jessie: 1.2.5-1; stretch: 1.2.6-1; sid: 1.2.6-1 |
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| 19:05.13 | dutchfish | lowee_, you could ask in #debian-kbsd |
| 19:05.48 | CtrlC | When running this command on a server, the host_ip should be the public ip of the server. right? sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -d $host_ip --dport $host_port -j DNAT --to-destination $guest_ip:$guest_port |
| 19:06.15 | drmagoo | CtrlC: right |
| 19:06.23 | CtrlC | Thanks. |
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| 19:06.46 | missmbob | also try #netfilter for iptables questions. that's they're home and know more. |
| 19:06.53 | missmbob | their* |
| 19:07.11 | CtrlC | oh. Thanks a lot. Sorry for flooding here with iptable questions. |
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| 19:22.54 | MikeDebian | hello all. I currently have 2 OS on my laptop (Win 10 and Debian Linux). if I want to run Win10 on a virtual machine with Debian as the host OS and keeping the real/native Win10 installation would I be able to do it? how would the license work in this case? |
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| 19:27.16 | dutchfish | MikeDebian, unless you have a volume lic. for that OS or a separate license, it wont work, as far as i know. |
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| 19:27.51 | jmcnaught | dabydob: did you follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/ca-certificates? |
| 19:28.04 | jmcnaught | err sorry |
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| 19:31.22 | MikeDebian | dutchfish, thank you. but if I'm not using the native installation and the VM at the same time, how windows stop me of doing it? by other words, how windows know that I'm using the license sometimes as the native installation and sometimes as the VM installation? |
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| 19:32.34 | dutchfish | MikeDebian, well, discussing licensing of another OS is a bit offtopic in here, but of you do own a OEM license, thats bound to your hardware. So it can be transferred to another machine, in this case a VM. |
| 19:32.52 | dutchfish | can't* |
| 19:33.17 | dutchfish | MikeDebian, but you could ask them in your particular case. |
| 19:34.11 | dutchfish | MikeDebian, as far as i know, nope. Unless its not an OEM license. |
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| 19:35.05 | dutchfish | MikeDebian, the install in M is not a problem, at least not for the most virtualisation solutiions like xen ad kvm |
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| 19:35.33 | MikeDebian | thank you dutchfish. I asked here once no one replied on #windows |
| 19:35.41 | dutchfish | yw |
| 19:35.43 | toha | Hello folks |
| 19:35.43 | MikeDebian | install in M? sorry, didn't understand |
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| 19:36.01 | dutchfish | MikeDebian, that was a typo, sorry i ment 'VM' |
| 19:36.25 | MikeDebian | yes, but I would need a valid license to install it on the VM and run it for a long time, right? |
| 19:36.38 | dutchfish | MikeDebian, i gues so, yes |
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| 19:37.56 | MikeDebian | ok tks |
| 19:38.02 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 19:49.20 | noqnio1 | no reply on debian-mips :) |
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| 19:50.21 | M4GNV5 | hey, so i just got a new router in preparation of the new inet i will get in a few days, now currently this is what my router tells me about my connection: "2,4 GHz, 37 / 87 Mbit/s" now i for the new inet i need more speed thus i want to use the 5ghz band and a 40mhz bandwidth (currently 2.4 and 20) how do i tell my pc (debian jessie) to use these? I have a "Qualcomm Atheros AR93xx Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)" and a "Fritz!Box 7490" |
| 19:50.22 | M4GNV5 | thanks in advance :) |
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| 19:50.49 | M4GNV5 | oops sorry message too long, hexchat split it up. |
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| 19:57.05 | M4GNV5 | ahh btw the wlan module is a TP link N900 (TL-WDN4800) |
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| 19:57.28 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, normally you setup it up under network connections. The band (frequency) is just an option. Either within your windows manager or config file. iwlist wlan0 scanning | grep -C3 <name of your network> | this will tell you the nets it sees. It depends also on your geographic location for the bands available. |
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| 19:58.04 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, i believe it is on the debian wiki |
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| 20:00.08 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, over here in europe we have different frequencies |
| 20:00.26 | M4GNV5 | dutchfish, http://pastebin.com/fDSPcMRs looks good, how do i force it to use the 5ghz one though? im from germany |
| 20:00.29 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, also known as channels |
| 20:01.15 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, for Germany i believe you can set frequency like this in the config `Frequency: 5.18 Ghz` |
| 20:01.33 | dutchfish | (not sure) |
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| 20:02.45 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, you have to look up the bands for your country. |
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| 20:03.20 | M4GNV5 | "my config"? ive used the gnome network manager for connecting, do you mean i have to edit /etc/network/interfaces or smth? |
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| 20:04.08 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, if you use gnome, just set the band to A(5Ghz) and pick your desired channel. |
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| 20:04.45 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, if your regional settings are correct it will obey correct bands |
| 20:05.23 | M4GNV5 | where do i set the band? im also not afraid of doing stuff manually if that increases the performance ;) |
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| 20:05.54 | M4GNV5 | cls |
| 20:06.03 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, gnome->settings->network settings (at the top of my head), i use KDE myself. |
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| 20:06.30 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, networkmanager |
| 20:06.46 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, or ask a gnome user |
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| 20:07.31 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, ah its gnome-> network -> wireless |
| 20:07.56 | M4GNV5 | yah, not much there i can change though https://i.m4gnus.de/472npf.mp4 |
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| 20:09.30 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#GNOME |
| 20:10.18 | dutchfish | scratches head |
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| 20:16.36 | unborn | m4ggus: are you sure thats gnome de? |
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| 20:18.01 | M4GNV5 | uhh yes why? |
| 20:18.31 | unborn | m4ggus: coz im on gnome too, but nothing like yours.. |
| 20:19.43 | M4GNV5 | well im using arc-dark and a custom desktop background |
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| 20:21.14 | unborn | ah |
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| 20:22.41 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, or follow commandline method and beyond https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line you need the stansa `Frequency: 5.18 Ghz` or such |
| 20:23.22 | unborn | M4GNV5: you dont see 5ghz on your laptop? |
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| 20:23.44 | dutchfish | unborn, he sees it yes http://pastebin.com/fDSPcMRs |
| 20:24.02 | dutchfish | unborn, just not under gnome as a config |
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| 20:24.33 | dutchfish | i have no clue |
| 20:25.00 | awal1 | Any one have tried connman? e17 & lxqt recommends/suggest it; so wondering if it works fine now since Jessie. I tried it under wheezy but it was unusable |
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| 20:27.59 | unborn | ah I see.. well.. I cannot found any file in my system too where the connection is saved.. heh |
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| 20:30.04 | M4GNV5 | dutchfish, hmm ill try giving the 5ghz net a different name, maybe i can connect to it explicitly then hehe |
| 20:30.18 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, yes, you could try that |
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| 20:32.03 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, within KDE i can choose explicetely the band i want to use, if so |
| 20:32.48 | M4GNV5 | nice hehe |
| 20:33.12 | M4GNV5 | well giving it an explicit name worked instantly however it says its now slower than before ^^, testing with iperf rn |
| 20:33.12 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, maybe stretch has that too in gnome, not looked at gnome yet |
| 20:33.55 | M4GNV5 | ohh yeah with the 5ghz band its actually slower lol, well maybe cuz theres too thick walls between me and the router |
| 20:34.03 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, well, 5Ghz band has a smaller reach, but faster within a close circle then 2.4Ghz |
| 20:34.20 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, yup |
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| 20:35.18 | M4GNV5 | damn, that sucks if everything goes well well have 100mbit here in 8 days, 3x2.4 gives me only 30-50mbit though |
| 20:35.29 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, maybe if you stick to your initial setup it might go for the fastest one at your current input levels |
| 20:35.55 | M4GNV5 | i guess ill have to buy a new wlan dongle then that supports ac or just finally finish the lan cables hehe |
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| 20:36.15 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, i prefer wired, handsdown |
| 20:37.27 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, with all that IoT thrown at us, wired is a viable option ;) |
| 20:38.21 | M4GNV5 | yahh well, theoretically theres a lan box in the wall 20cm from my PC but the cable is just loose below the roof so i would have to attach plugs to but i dont rly have the tools for that |
| 20:38.32 | M4GNV5 | dutchfish, >IoT kek |
| 20:38.36 | M4GNV5 | you mean botnet? |
| 20:38.52 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, no, IoT, internet of things |
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| 20:39.20 | M4GNV5 | yah haha, but wasnt the downtime of twitter & github and some others because of millions of unconfigured IoT devices? ^^ |
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| 20:39.50 | dutchfish | M4GNV5, anyone, i hope you figure it out, have fun |
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| 21:03.30 | agrecascino | Lostfile, why did you attempt to dcc me a file? |
| 21:03.46 | Lostfile | sorry |
| 21:04.00 | agrecascino | It's fine. |
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| 21:05.13 | Lostfile | and it was sending over my avi pic |
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| 21:05.42 | Lostfile | kvirc dose that automaticly |
| 21:07.05 | humbag | doses |
| 21:07.21 | Lostfile | yes |
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| 21:12.57 | M4GNV5 | alrighty, also for reference: giving the 5ghz net another name and disabling 2.4ghz network coexistence (essentially enabling 2.4 40mhz bandwith connections) allows you to get a stable (unlike 5ghz) connection with a very fast speed (iperf tells me i have something around 60-77mbit upstream) |
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| 21:13.12 | M4GNV5 | just in case anyone ever reads the logs and has the same problem ;) |
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| 21:13.30 | iflema | humbag: slacker...distribute that shit |
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| 21:36.41 | NapoleonWils0n | hi all |
| 21:37.02 | Lostfile | hi |
| 21:37.02 | NapoleonWils0n | is maim screen captute not in the jessie repos |
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| 21:37.22 | NapoleonWils0n | i see scrot is in the repos but maim is more up to date |
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| 22:23.10 | awal1 | A general question about security; not looking for X versus Y. Which web browser you recommend guys for use in websites with high security concerns (passwords, personal data...) like banks, personal business? firefox or chromium? |
| 22:23.47 | awal1 | I usually use firefox, but wondering if chromium is fine too |
| 22:26.49 | petn-randall | awal1: If you keep your browser up to date and don't have the flash plugin installed, you're already sailing in the top 10% security wise, regardless whether it's firefox or chromium. |
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| 22:28.22 | awal1 | petn-randall: I dont use flash plugin since a while :) |
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| 22:30.30 | abrotman | petn-randall: and don't have java ? |
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| 22:34.22 | awal1 | I have learned several times somewhere in the web that java is a source of several security problems, but, sadly, some websites I visit (banks) requires java stuff to be enabled for work correctly :( |
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| 22:35.25 | awal1 | Well, for a non techncal user, it's hard to have a clear ideas :P :D |
| 22:36.14 | petn-randall | abrotman: That too, yeah. |
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| 22:40.18 | abrotman | awal1: You can use a separate browser that is Java-enabled for that if you'd want |
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| 22:45.36 | awal1 | abrotma: well, I use firefox + xul-ext-noscript. I enable java when the bank/business website requires it; if not i disable it |
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| 22:45.44 | awal1 | abrotman: :) |
| 22:47.09 | awal1 | the problem is that almost all websites requiring password ask for enable java; except a few one, like gmail |
| 22:47.12 | Guest57977 | what do you use instead of flash? |
| 22:47.19 | baraba | what? |
| 22:47.24 | baraba | java |
| 22:47.31 | baraba | no one uses java in browser anymore |
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| 22:48.01 | baraba | Guest57977, html5 |
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| 22:50.01 | awal1 | Guest57977: almost all multimedia websites I visit uses html5. I X website really requires flash, I use chromium+pepperflashplugin-nonfree in a virtual machine :P |
| 22:50.15 | awal1 | If X ... ^ |
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| 22:51.05 | baraba | lol, even porn websites support html5 these days |
| 22:51.19 | Guest57977 | yeah because flash is still massively used |
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| 22:51.25 | Guest57977 | thats why I ask |
| 22:51.28 | Guest57977 | lol |
| 22:51.42 | baraba | i just need it for sport streams |
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| 22:51.50 | baraba | i hope it dies already |
| 22:52.08 | awal1 | baraba: no one uses java? |
| 22:52.21 | Guest57977 | I'd like to get rid of it too but it's kinda necessary for some websites |
| 22:52.29 | baraba | maybe some ancient websites awal1 |
| 22:53.02 | awal1 | baraba: ok |
| 22:53.13 | awal1 | btw, what they use if not java? |
| 22:53.18 | baraba | i mean in browsers awal1 |
| 22:53.45 | baraba | java is the single most popular programming language right now probably |
| 22:54.25 | baraba | what do you mean what they use: html5+javascript+css |
| 22:55.03 | awal1 | well, if I disable java for my bank website, I can't connect to my account ( can't provide username+password) |
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| 22:55.15 | awal1 | by java , I was reffering to javascript :P |
| 22:56.08 | baraba | ROFL |
| 22:56.32 | baraba | yeah, makes sense now |
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| 23:03.11 | unborn | Guest57977: flash is dead |
| 23:03.50 | awal1 | Guest57977: chromium+pepperflashplugin-nonfree or firefox+browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash is an alternative for adobe flash, a better alternative |
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| 23:09.00 | petn-randall | It's still used in 2016? Not on any pages I use. Only for advertisement maybe ... |
| 23:09.22 | rhe | does twitch still use flash? |
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| 23:09.51 | TomTomTo1 | yes, but they offer a html5 player now too. |
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| 23:09.58 | rhe | oh, nice! |
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