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| 00:41.41 | jak2000 | hi all |
| 00:42.08 | gry | hi z4g4 jak2000 :) |
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| 00:43.33 | z4g4 | hi |
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| 00:48.38 | jak2000 | gry, z4g4 i want a beer |
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| 00:48.46 | naptastic | TIFU my dpkg trying to update Virtualbox. Systemd blew up (double-free or corruption) during a pre-trigger, and now I can't perform any actions that I can think of. Help? |
| 00:49.06 | naptastic | Fairly comprehensive output (and probably a better explanation than I've offered) https://dpaste.de/r79J |
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| 00:50.29 | Emil | There are magic commands that are poorly documented |
| 00:50.41 | naptastic | Emil, that sounds like exactly what I need right now. |
| 00:50.58 | Emil | sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq package_name |
| 00:51.02 | naptastic | If I were on an RPM system, I would do `rpm -e --nodeps --justdb $package` |
| 00:51.03 | Emil | http://askubuntu.com/questions/525088/how-to-delete-broken-packages-in-ubuntu |
| 00:51.08 | naptastic | that sounds like exactly what I want :) |
| 00:51.11 | naptastic | tries it |
| 00:52.01 | gry | jak2000, you can have a virtual beer, or come to a debconf to have a real one. http://www.debconf.org/ will publish next conference information soon |
| 00:52.10 | Emil | http://askubuntu.com/questions/141370/how-to-fix-a-broken-package-when-apt-get-install-f-does-not-work |
| 00:52.13 | Emil | Also this |
| 00:52.31 | Emil | I have battled same broken packages shit out multiple times with gitlab install |
| 00:52.36 | naptastic | Emil, that did exactly the trick. Thanks! |
| 00:53.00 | Emil | naptastic: nope problem, keywords for search are "apt-get remove broken" |
| 00:53.05 | naptastic | I'm adding that to my notes in case I ever run into this again. (But given this is the first time I've had this situation in >6 years of using Debian...) |
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| 00:53.50 | Emil | Yeah, I've also used Debian for quite some time and only recently ran into it |
| 00:53.54 | naptastic | apt seems to just be smarter in times like these, and dpkg's database just doesn't seem to get corrupted so much... |
| 00:54.54 | Emil | Yeah, apt is better |
| 00:55.11 | Emil | Too bad apt-get comes out of the fucking spine already :D |
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| 01:01.30 | petn-randall | naptastic: This happened on which release? |
| 01:01.47 | naptastic | petn-randall, Sid. So, nothing to file a bug report over. |
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| 01:02.28 | petn-randall | naptastic: Ah, I see. For the future, there's also #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (other network), where all the testing/unstable users hang out. |
| 01:02.32 | naptastic | The systemd double-free worries me a little, but idk... this is old hardware and might be flaky, or it might be something weird with this system (it has been traumatized recently) |
| 01:02.40 | naptastic | oh that's good to know |
| 01:03.04 | naptastic | I wish everyone were on one network... it's annoying having to lurk so many different places. |
| 01:03.17 | petn-randall | !why oftc |
| 01:03.24 | petn-randall | pokes dpkg. |
| 01:03.31 | naptastic | lol |
| 01:03.44 | naptastic | it's no big deal--I'll just remember to find that channel next time I need help. |
| 01:03.44 | missmbob | https://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060604 |
| 01:03.51 | petn-randall | Oh wait, it was |
| 01:03.55 | petn-randall | !oftc move |
| 01:03.55 | dpkg | irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th 2006, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html. Operators and bots (see <fact sharing>) will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on Freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on one or other network. See also http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
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| 02:25.07 | awal1 | I remember when using adobe flash in youtube, for example, my machine temp. is always over 55º C. Now with html5, temp. is stable, around 40/40º C. Why this big difference? |
| 02:25.21 | awal1 | not debian related, sorry :P |
| 02:25.43 | awal1 | 40/45 ^ |
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| 02:27.59 | socomm | awal1: flash uses more resources |
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| 02:29.29 | awal1 | socomm: yes, ok. anything more apart that? :P |
| 02:29.57 | missmbob | not really. just flash sucks. |
| 02:30.52 | socomm | awal1: Software uses more resource. CPU/GPU starts working harder. Temperature goes up. |
| 02:31.42 | awal1 | missmbob: :) |
| 02:32.39 | awal1 | socomm: ok, so basically ressources related. ok |
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| 02:34.01 | socomm | awal1: Yup! |
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| 02:41.32 | Hello71 | awal1: browser can use hardware decoding in HTML5 mode. for flash it requires VDPAU and is not very stable on Linux (crashes or even uses *more* power on some machines) |
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| 02:43.26 | awal1 | Hello71: hardware decoding? |
| 02:43.42 | Hello71 | !g hardware video decoding |
| 02:44.30 | awal1 | ok, got it, googling |
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| 05:25.04 | erdave | samba is listening on port 445 and 139 but I can't connect |
| 05:26.04 | erdave | i can access all other services in my server (mysql, http, ssh, other stuff), but not samba. |
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| 05:27.54 | erdave | -A INPUT -i wlan0 -m comment --comment "FREE NAT TRAFFIC" -j ACCEPT |
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| 05:28.06 | erdave | that's my firewall rule |
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| 05:39.24 | nick[0] | Hi! I'm trying to set up an LXC container to connect to a VPN and provide services to both VPN connected hosts and hosts on the physical lan. What network config should I be using? |
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| 05:40.20 | nick[0] | (using LXC 2.0 from backports) |
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| 07:22.50 | shortCircuit__ | hi |
| 07:23.04 | shortCircuit__ | is there no easy way to get the connected network interface? I have to get all devices and then possibly loop and check the SIOCGIFFLAGS with ioctl |
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| 07:29.13 | antosamalona | Is mysql-workbench deleted from debian testing repo? |
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| 07:31.54 | th0r | !next |
| 07:31.54 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 07:32.12 | th0r | antosamalona, testing is, I think, handled in #debian-next |
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| 07:32.59 | antosamalona | th0r: I'm sorry |
| 07:33.26 | th0r | no problem...just you won't find many testing 'experts' here <smile> |
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| 08:25.16 | tdn | Are there any alternatives to "rear" (Relax and Recover) that are included in Debian packages? |
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| 08:27.29 | themill | You might need to explain wtf "rear" is |
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| 08:34.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | relax⦠and recover |
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| 08:35.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | apparently disaster recovery |
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| 08:35.59 | g00se1 | nss_util.cc is mentioned in stderr when i try to run chromium-browser in wheezy, yet i can't find that file in any apt-file search. Why would i not be able to do so? |
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| 08:36.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | now who's the butt of the joke⦠|
| 08:36.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | g00se1, because it's a source file |
| 08:37.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | you'd have to look in the source package of chromium |
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| 08:38.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | laters |
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| 08:40.36 | foetus | g00se1, try 'apt-get -f install' |
| 08:41.11 | g00se1 | CutMeOwnThroat: If it's in the source of chromium then surely it would be found by apt-file? |
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| 08:42.48 | g00se1 | foetus: Why so ?- it looks like a bug http://sprunge.us/dLGT |
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| 08:44.44 | themill | g00se1: apt-file indexes binary packages not source packages (by default) |
| 08:44.47 | gry | I would like to run an android emulator on debian,please tell which free package to try |
| 08:45.29 | themill | g00se1: it seems to be in the chromium-browser source package |
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| 08:47.30 | foetus | g00se1: apt-get -f install is only installing the essentially needed packages for google-chrome, nothing else. |
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| 08:48.12 | g00se1 | Really. Hmm, i'm glad i found out that gotcha. I thought it indexed everything in the repos |
| 08:48.24 | foetus | *chromium-browser |
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| 08:49.04 | g00se1 | foetus: Not a deps problem - it's a bug. |
| 08:49.20 | g00se1 | thinks, anyway |
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| 08:49.28 | themill | g00se1: well source packages aren't really "in the repos" in that way. You can tell apt-file that "source" is the architecture you want to use. |
| 08:49.40 | foetus | g00se1: ok. |
| 08:49.41 | themill | g00se1: as I said the other day, noone is going to fix bugs in chromium in wheezy. |
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| 08:51.12 | g00se1 | themill: Yes. I'll probably go to jessie soon |
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| 08:53.06 | g00se1 | themill: something like apt-file -a source ... ? |
| 08:53.48 | themill | yes |
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| 08:54.41 | g00se1 | Thanks - i'll give it a go |
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| 08:55.51 | eynix | Hi |
| 08:55.54 | Tomte1 | hi |
| 08:56.05 | eynix | I'm a noob, and I block my debian :'( |
| 08:56.25 | Spiffy | You, what? |
| 08:56.38 | eynix | apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing, jessie in source.list, lsb-release say debian version is 7 |
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| 08:57.50 | LargePig | done apt-get update? |
| 08:57.54 | Spiffy | You remembered to apt-get update update? |
| 08:58.00 | Spiffy | -update |
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| 08:58.05 | eynix | y |
| 08:58.12 | eynix | update upgrade |
| 08:58.29 | eynix | even clean autoclean and autoremove |
| 08:58.32 | eynix | just in case |
| 08:58.35 | Spiffy | Have you rebooted? |
| 08:58.37 | eynix | y |
| 08:58.46 | eynix | it's a dedicated serv btw |
| 08:59.04 | eynix | (and sry for my eng :/) |
| 08:59.07 | themill | the output of "apt-cache policy" in a pastebin would be a good start |
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| 09:00.31 | eynix | http://pastebin.com/vvLbfq4z |
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| 09:05.09 | r4co0n | Hi. I just installed a package (libreoffice-l10n-de) and noticed only afterwards that I want the packages suggested by it as well. 'apt install --install-suggests packagename' now refuses to do anything, is there something except of '--reinstall' to install suggests after installing the package? |
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| 09:12.06 | eynix | themill: if you have some time later, I've past the apt-cache policy |
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| 09:16.03 | bazhang | thanks |
| 09:16.07 | eynix | ty |
| 09:17.08 | themill | eynix: Can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy apt libc6 dpkg perl lsb-release"? |
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| 09:18.21 | eynix | themill: http://pastebin.com/z5496w6X |
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| 09:19.18 | themill | eynix: that looks just fine to me |
| 09:19.35 | eynix | :'( |
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| 09:19.45 | eynix | I don't want to backup, reinstall and restore |
| 09:19.56 | themill | what's actually wrong? |
| 09:20.20 | eynix | got to upgrade a specifi package but it's Jessie specific |
| 09:20.52 | themill | ? |
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| 09:21.43 | eynix | sorry for my english : I'm using Yunohost, the 2.4 is out, I want to upgrade. But the 2.4 is Jessie only and apparently I'm not running a Jessie |
| 09:21.55 | eynix | and I can't figure out how to upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie |
| 09:22.18 | themill | you're running jessie |
| 09:22.26 | eynix | well to me I'm on jessie (regarding source.list) |
| 09:22.34 | eynix | but lsb-release disagree |
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| 09:25.24 | themill | Can you pastebin "lsb_release -a"? |
| 09:26.21 | eynix | http://pastebin.com/nm8n7edi |
| 09:26.29 | eynix | seems legit x) |
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| 09:26.49 | eynix | Description Jessie 8.6, Version: 7 |
| 09:26.50 | eynix | Ok. |
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| 09:27.55 | eynix | I'll look for a way to force an update on lsb_release or something.. |
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| 09:29.07 | themill | sees no "Version" output from lsb_release |
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| 09:30.46 | unborn | eynix: mine one looks a bit different http://pastebin.com/1bzMYnZG |
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| 09:31.24 | eynix | unborn: that's the issue ^^' |
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| 09:32.31 | eynix | I manually edited lsb-release, and 'im rebooting |
| 09:32.35 | eynix | we'll see |
| 09:32.43 | eynix | thank you |
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| 09:59.00 | Trila_ | hi |
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| 10:00.10 | Trila_ | does anyone how can I create a deb package from a pip python package? I usually use stdeb but for a specifica pip package I'm getting some errors. Do you know any other tools/method ? thank you |
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| 10:07.28 | babilen | Trila_: Ask in #debian-python on irc.oftc.net |
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| 10:17.10 | Trila_ | babilen: thank you |
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| 10:21.22 | ctx144k | hi all |
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| 10:21.51 | ghormoon | hi, any idea why might this be happening? if I let it run longer, it will just get dhcpoffers and ask for new ... http://pastebin.com/7MeCjPLv |
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| 10:22.44 | noobi | hi there ive been learning linux and i am trying to sort ports from the services http://pastebin.com/me0aDJhU this is what i got but its way to dirty can someone tell me how to do it the clean way? |
| 10:22.48 | ctx144k | is there any easy way to define an firewall in whitelisting conzept for outgoing applications? i want rules like "firefox" can be out, apt-get too, but maybe nvidia.driver not |
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| 10:23.09 | ctx144k | > http://www.majorgeeks.com/news/story/nvidia_adds_telemetry_to_latest_drivers_heres_how_to_disable_it.html |
| 10:23.33 | noobi | ctx144k: if you go with whitelist you can define all that can go out the rest is automatcly on the blacklist |
| 10:23.37 | noobi | afaik |
| 10:24.17 | ctx144k | noobi - but how to define iptables rules for allow an application? |
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| 10:24.29 | ctx144k | i see only ports/ipadresses i can define |
| 10:24.54 | toha1 | And there it goes again changing my god damn name without asking |
| 10:25.01 | toha1 | fucking piece of shit weechat |
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| 10:25.47 | Mahe | ctx144k: http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/104838 |
| 10:26.00 | noobi | ctx144k: aww apps i dont know sorry |
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| 10:26.54 | Mahe | ctx144k: but it's tricky, you'd have to make sure that the nvidia-driver module you wanna block is executed as a specific user or group |
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| 10:29.19 | ctx144k | yes i see - i wld need to have an own user/group for nvidia... |
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| 10:33.16 | ctx144k | thnx for informations... |
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| 10:53.36 | NoCode | "warning: connect to Milter service inet:127.0.0.1:8891: Connection refused" -- Is this normal? Tried Google, diagnosing the issue, messed around with some settings and still can't seem to fix it. Though, I can send and retrieve email. |
| 10:54.05 | JPT | looks like a milter service is not online |
| 10:54.07 | bhuddah | NoCode: which service are you expecting to run on 8891? investigate your mail server config... |
| 10:54.40 | JPT | google results suggest it may be a dkim-milter |
| 10:55.25 | NoCode | Yes |
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| 11:18.20 | JyZyXEL | the latest mysql upgrade on debian jessie broke Akonadi |
| 11:18.22 | ChrisH | Anyone else observing freshclam update issues? At least one of my installations fails with connection refused/connection timeouts |
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| 11:19.23 | JyZyXEL | Upgrade: mysql-server-core-5.5:amd64 (5.5.52-0+deb8u1, 5.5.53-0+deb8u1), mysql-common:amd64 (5.5.52-0+deb8u1, 5.5.53-0+deb8u1), libmysqlclient18:a md64 (5.5.52-0+deb8u1, 5.5.53-0+deb8u1) |
| 11:19.35 | gebruiker | JyZyXEL: bugreport |
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| 11:19.38 | JyZyXEL | after this upgrade i rebooted and Akonadi would not start anymore |
| 11:19.44 | gebruiker | JyZyXEL: have you used kde backport? |
| 11:19.49 | JyZyXEL | no |
| 11:20.02 | JyZyXEL | [ERROR] Failed to access directory for --secure-file-priv. Please make sure that directory exists and is accessible by MySQL Server. Supplied value : /var/lib/mysql-files |
| 11:20.46 | gebruiker | JyZyXEL: bugreport & https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2016-August/061864.html |
| 11:21.44 | gebruiker | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32737478/how-should-i-tackle-secure-file-priv-in-mysql might also help |
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| 11:22.47 | JyZyXEL | gebruiker: perhaps i should just try somehow reverting the botched mysql upgrade? |
| 11:23.07 | gebruiker | JyZyXEL: that also seems like a reasonable option |
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| 11:23.28 | JyZyXEL | but how does one revert them? |
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| 11:25.44 | gebruiker | JyZyXEL: apt-get install «pkg»=«version» |
| 11:25.52 | JyZyXEL | gebruiker: adding "secure_file_priv=" to ~/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf |
| 11:25.56 | JyZyXEL | made it work again |
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| 11:26.32 | gebruiker | JyZyXEL: great! Do not forget to bug report so the maintainer can fix this asap |
| 11:26.46 | JyZyXEL | what package would you even file the bug report against |
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| 11:28.29 | gebruiker | JyZyXEL: akonadi |
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| 11:34.23 | JyZyXEL | gebruiker: Severity? |
| 11:37.14 | JyZyXEL | ill go with important |
| 11:37.15 | mavhq | https://imgur.com/a/gTmza any ideas on how to make chromium font rendering not awful? |
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| 11:40.51 | gebruiker | mavhq: yeah configure fontconfig not to use arial, courier new etc.. |
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| 11:41.18 | gebruiker | mavhq: http://www.binarytides.com/gorgeous-looking-fonts-ubuntu-linux/ you have to debianize the how-to for yourself |
| 11:41.45 | gebruiker | mavhq: also fontconfig infinality would likely help |
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| 11:43.51 | gebruiker | mavhq: http://i.imgur.com/1DjfANF.png |
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| 12:02.40 | mavhq | gebruiker: thanks, I ended up copying https://gist.github.com/cmeiklejohn/1375438 to /etc/fonts/local.conf |
| 12:03.12 | Percevan | Hello, i have a minimal Debian install with xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and i have a error on startup. https://anonimag.es/i/878250ffc45681df5cc9bf5cd50c0f13.md.jpg Thank you. |
| 12:04.04 | gebruiker | mavhq: interesting solution, curious to see the difference. Can you screenshot it? |
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| 12:06.18 | mavhq | https://imgur.com/a/gTmza gebruiker |
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| 13:07.56 | ByteStorm | guys i want to setup a tor connected proxy in my pidgin,starting today |
| 13:08.21 | ByteStorm | but it redirects me to the gnome proxy setup |
| 13:08.41 | ByteStorm | can you tell me how to setup gnome proxy so tht it uses tor? |
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| 13:12.58 | ByteStorm | guys??? |
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| 13:16.24 | noqnio1 | did you select the proper port? |
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| 13:16.37 | noqnio1 | also, i guess this is not the right channel |
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| 13:18.25 | JyZyXEL | gebruiker: they just closed to bug report claiming that backports are not supported |
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| 13:21.12 | JyZyXEL | oh finally, somebody else noticed that it wasn't a backport but a security upgrade |
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| 13:23.54 | john_rambo | How do I replace WICD with Network Manager ? Is there a guide ? |
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| 13:24.46 | noqnio1 | there is |
| 13:24.50 | noqnio1 | it is like, the first google result |
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| 13:25.30 | john_rambo | noqnio1: I am getting results about the opposite |
| 13:25.46 | john_rambo | noqnio1: THat is how to replace NM with WICD |
| 13:26.32 | noqnio1 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD#Reverting_to_NetworkManager |
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| 13:29.35 | unborn | ByteStorm: if you have tor installed on your system its quiet easy |
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| 13:30.57 | erdave | my samba is not working |
| 13:31.46 | noqnio1 | mine is |
| 13:31.56 | erdave | though i checked that is running and listening with netstat, and it is! but i can't browse. |
| 13:31.57 | erdave | lol |
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| 13:32.54 | erdave | it shows nothing with the smbtree util. |
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| 13:39.24 | erdave | uhm... weird... it was my client firewall... |
| 13:39.44 | erdave | what ports should i unlock as a client for using samba? |
| 13:40.18 | noqnio1 | 445 i guess? |
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| 13:42.42 | erdave | noqnio1: but thats an input port for the server. (i believe) |
| 13:43.12 | erdave | i'll research it... now i'm curious... |
| 13:43.25 | noqnio1 | maybe you are right, google also lists 139 as a candidate |
| 13:43.27 | noqnio1 | im not sure |
| 13:43.28 | unborn | 445 tcp |
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| 13:44.07 | unborn | samba port ^^^ |
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| 13:45.57 | ceegee | is a gateway required for preseeding to fetch packages or will a http proxy work too? |
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| 13:48.23 | petn-randall | ceegee: I'm guessing http_proxy will work, but I'd just try it and see. |
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| 13:49.27 | ceegee | petn-randall: its just a proof of concept right now, actually there is no infrastructure to try and error :-) |
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| 13:51.37 | erdave | i believe its something like the ftp "active" mode, im bounded through the port 60893 |
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| 13:52.18 | erdave | but that should be an "output port" dunno why my firewall its blocking it... |
| 13:53.14 | toruvinn | sigh. this is a bit less related to Debian I guess, but it does happen on Debian too. ;-P anyone any idea why mdraid (raid1) check/repair doesn't overwrite unreadable sectors on the devices? after trying out various things, i still have 2 pending sectors according to SMART. |
| 13:53.37 | toruvinn | unless those WDs have really, REALLY crappy firmware, which isn't that unlikely. :-< |
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| 13:55.45 | mapm | hello |
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| 13:56.21 | mapm | I am trying to install a debian 8.6 jessie with encrypted LVM but the option is not listed, why does this happen? |
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| 13:58.07 | mapm | the computer is a Toshiba Satellite P30W-B-108 |
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| 14:00.04 | mapm | alright I think the issue was that I accepted the option "force UEFI boot" before, now I didn't and it listed the option |
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| 14:41.33 | teclo- | afternoon, I just installed the "base system" and I'd like to use xfce as Desktop Environment. I guess I need to do: aptitude install task-xfce-desktop ? |
| 14:42.19 | pencilandpaper | No, you want: aptitude install xfce4 xfce4-goodies |
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| 14:42.25 | pencilandpaper | teclo-: ^ |
| 14:42.44 | teclo- | pencilandpaper: ah ok... |
| 14:42.53 | pencilandpaper | :) |
| 14:42.55 | teclo- | uhh what's in the goodies ? |
| 14:43.03 | teclo- | useful things or games and so on ? |
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| 14:44.06 | n4dir | rather useful than games, though i neverr installed them. They don't seem to be useful for everyone |
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| 14:44.36 | pencilandpaper | Extra panel plugins that you may want to use, xfce's native media player, the native text editor, etc teclo- . |
| 14:44.39 | n4dir | tastk-desktop will come with lots of apps, some or lots of them you won't need. install xfce4 might be the better option |
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| 14:45.13 | teclo- | pencilandpaper: sounds pretty good, I'll do that :) |
| 14:45.20 | pencilandpaper | Cool teclo- . :) |
| 14:45.21 | n4dir | uh, well, no, i don't think that xfce4-goodies add such, but apt-cache show might show it. |
| 14:45.33 | pencilandpaper | It does n4dir . |
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| 14:46.34 | n4dir | i can't find that here: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/xfce4-goodies |
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| 14:47.14 | n4dir | oh, yup, i seem to have missed them. |
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| 14:47.35 | n4dir | my fault. |
| 14:48.06 | Ox0k | Helo, Suse linux has ads that makes "live patch" (https://www.suse.com/products/live-patching/) dose Debian has something like this |
| 14:48.08 | Ox0k | ? |
| 14:48.15 | pencilandpaper | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xfce4-goodies&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all <--- n4dir . |
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| 14:49.09 | pencilandpaper | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/xfce4-goodies <--- More information the package n4dir . This is what you were looking for. |
| 14:49.10 | n4dir | yes, yes, that's where i've looked. You were right. I didn't install them for years and should have said nothing. |
| 14:49.22 | pencilandpaper | Its ok, no worries. :) |
| 14:49.35 | pencilandpaper | I install it by default now with xfce4. |
| 14:50.08 | n4dir | yeah, many like it to enhance xfce4. |
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| 14:53.25 | nkuttler | ffs, icedove/enigmail now asks for my passphrase every time, despite configured to remember it.. |
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| 15:15.17 | Joost | can someone briefly summarize the difference between libusb and libusb-1.0? |
| 15:15.54 | Joost | they seem to be quite different beasts |
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| 15:22.52 | petn-randall | Joost: There exist several package versions of libusb. They're just different, incompatible API versions. If you want to program against it, just pick the one with the highest version number. |
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| 15:23.13 | petn-randall | (or pick the one for the target OS you want to support) |
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| 15:23.48 | Joost | petn-randall: ok, sounds reasonable |
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| 16:03.05 | kion | Every time I boot I have to open the Nvidia X-server settings and re apply my settings, is there a way to have Debian do that automaticlly at boot? |
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| 16:08.40 | baraba | how do you re apply your settings? |
| 16:08.48 | baraba | kion |
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| 16:10.00 | kion | baraba, just opening the Nvidia x server settings does re apply my settings... |
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| 16:10.38 | baraba | quick googling kion: http://askubuntu.com/questions/379483/nvidia-x-server-settings-lost-on-every-reboot |
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| 16:13.57 | vektorweg1 | hello, i updated kernel and X drivers, but now mouse acceleration settings for my mouse don't work anymore. when i use e.g. xset the settings are only applied to the touchpad. one of the packages installed was xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1.9.1-1. i tested 1.9.1-1+b1 without any effect. i'm running jessie. some hints to fix this? |
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| 16:18.01 | kion | baraba, yes I did find that page before but it didn't work for me |
| 16:18.12 | kion | baraba, thanks anyways |
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| 16:23.47 | xVim | Hi. I am running Debian Jessie with GNOME and installed gnome-shell-pomodoro via aptitude. When I try to start this program a process is started (as I can tell via ps -aux), but nothing else happens - no window appears and no error message is printed out. How can I figure out why this program is not working? |
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| 16:24.17 | xVim | I have gnome-shell-extensions installed |
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| 16:41.33 | Howdy | can anybody shed some insight on mouse freezing in Windows 10 guest ? |
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| 16:42.05 | han-solo | windows? |
| 16:42.19 | han-solo | ask in #windows, i guess |
| 16:42.22 | unborn | :D |
| 16:42.37 | Howdy | Running Debian 8 & running windows 10 using Xen |
| 16:42.55 | unborn | I do only virtualbox.. sorry |
| 16:42.58 | petn-randall | Howdy: Does the mouse work fine outside of the guest window? |
| 16:42.58 | Howdy | mouse if freezing but keyboard is working |
| 16:43.00 | Howdy | after a while |
| 16:43.05 | Howdy | yes |
| 16:43.31 | petn-randall | Howdy: How does it freeze? Does it just turn invisible, or is it stuck? |
| 16:43.39 | Howdy | petn-randall: Yes, I can ctrl - alt & move out of guest & mouse is fine |
| 16:44.03 | Howdy | well this time I noticed it was on screen just not moving the arrow |
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| 16:44.18 | petn-randall | Howdy: When it freezes, can you right click to open the context menu? |
| 16:44.29 | SwedeMike | Howdy: if there is a #xen channel, might make sense to ask there. |
| 16:44.55 | Howdy | SwedeMike: I will try there too |
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| 16:45.22 | Howdy | Petn-randall: not sure what you mean by context menu |
| 16:45.45 | Howdy | its usually frozen on some app window |
| 16:45.51 | Howdy | Or I don't even see it |
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| 16:46.22 | petn-randall | Howdy: If you right click on the desktop, a menu pops up. I want to find out if the guest doesn't get any input events from the mouse, or if it is just a cosmetic issue (the mouse pointer not being drawn correctly). |
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| 16:46.28 | Howdy | don't think it has frozen on windows background where I can right click it |
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| 16:47.39 | Howdy | not cosmetic for sure since I move the mouse & right click left click everywhere |
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| 16:48.05 | Howdy | while this is happening the keyboard is still working & guest vm is responding |
| 16:48.17 | Howdy | I exit from the Vinrage & go back in & the mouse is still stuck |
| 16:48.38 | Howdy | rebooting the guest fixes it but this is really annoying |
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| 16:51.37 | petn-randall | Howdy: I use kvm myself, so I'm stuck from here on. Maybe someone else can help you any further. |
| 16:52.21 | Howdy | is KVM better then Xen? |
| 16:52.34 | Howdy | I want to eventually use this for Gaming as well |
| 16:52.40 | Howdy | with pci pass thru |
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| 16:53.48 | Howdy | i have not played bf4 in months leading to more refreshments type of hang outs on the weekend |
| 16:53.55 | Howdy | I need my BF4 |
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| 16:57.58 | mark4 | what version of the linux kernel does the latest debian live dvd use? |
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| 16:58.51 | jelly | mark4: something around 3.16.36 |
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| 16:59.32 | mark4 | utterly useless to me. it wont boot my primary laptop |
| 16:59.39 | mark4 | scratch debian off the list :/ |
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| 17:00.09 | petn-randall | !next |
| 17:00.10 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 17:01.18 | Howdy | so do you guys think KVM is more stable then XEN? |
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| 17:02.49 | mark4 | ok so... how difficult would it be to install debian when booting to some OTHER distros live dvd? |
| 17:02.51 | jelly | petn-randall: he's back! |
| 17:03.03 | mark4 | the arch linux live dvd is a 4.7 kernel |
| 17:03.26 | jhutchins | Howdy: It's really a matter of what works best for you, there is no universal answer or there wouldn't be choices. |
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| 17:03.53 | jelly | mark4: that's covered in the install guide, "debootstrap" method |
| 17:04.18 | jhutchins | Howdy: http://virtualization.softwareinsider.com/d/l/Open-Source-%28Free%29 |
| 17:04.21 | TomTomTosch | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apds03.html.en ^^ |
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| 17:04.36 | jelly | !ig |
| 17:04.37 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for Debian 8 "Jessie" can be found at https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/installmanual . See also <errata>, <jessie release notes>. |
| 17:05.06 | mark4 | jelly ty. its been over 10 years since i used debian lol. im a dedicated gentoo user but i cannot get my desktop up and running on my primary laptop in gentoo because of the hybrid graphcs and an ultra new nvidia card (at least 2 years old you know) |
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| 17:05.53 | jelly | mark4: if your hardware requires a later kernel, there's one in |
| 17:05.56 | jelly | !bdo |
| 17:05.56 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 17:06.07 | jelly | !bdo kernel |
| 17:06.07 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
| 17:06.28 | Howdy | Jhutchins:Thanks, I am new to linux & just saw a guide for xen so I used xen https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Project_Beginners_Guide |
| 17:06.43 | jelly | mark4: for further clues, ask the bot on your own, eg: /msg dpkg jessie backports |
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| 17:06.54 | mark4 | jelly ty |
| 17:07.30 | mark4 | does debians install dvd boot to desktop or console? |
| 17:07.56 | jhutchins | mark4: Depends on which image and what options you choose. |
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| 17:08.01 | jelly | it can do both, damn if I remember what's the default |
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| 17:08.29 | jhutchins | jelly: iirc it's usually non-X graphics. |
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| 17:08.30 | mark4 | aha kk. not much point in installing "distribution X" if it cannot prove up front that it will work lol |
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| 17:09.04 | jhutchins | mark4: Very few of the pure installers use X. Live image installers will. |
| 17:09.15 | jelly | eh, any distro can be made to work IF there are drivers for linux somewhere |
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| 17:11.12 | mark4 | jelly i have not been able to get gentoo working on my primary laptop in about 8 months. i can revert to an 8 month old kernel version and 8 month old nvidia version but i dont want to be locked in the stone age |
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| 17:11.18 | mark4 | so im experimenting |
| 17:11.19 | zykotick9 | anyone happen to know what a (!) means in htop after uptime? example: Uptime: 163 days(!), 22:15:39 - i don't see any mention of it in the man page |
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| 17:14.14 | Stadtpirat | Say, in my early days I used to start/stop services by "/etc/init.d/<service> start/stop". Then I learned about "service <service> start/stop" which should be just a wrapper for that afaik. Am I correct that "systemctl start/stop <service>" is now the way to go? |
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| 17:15.07 | zykotick9 | Stadtpirat: sidenote, not everything is a systemd service yet... so a mix is probably required |
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| 17:16.52 | Stadtpirat | Apart from the technology behind it, I really wished they'd choose a command easier to type than systemctl, ugh ^^ |
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| 17:18.33 | Kobaz | hey, anyone have any tips on installing hplip without having to install systemd that it has as a dependency? |
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| 17:22.35 | TomTomTosch | zykotick9: it's an easter egg that shows after 100 days of uptime. |
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| 17:23.10 | i11ega1Code | tzdate sets wrong time |
| 17:23.46 | i11ega1Code | date shows: Tue Nov 8 01:23:39 Netherlands 2016 |
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| 17:26.07 | samba35 | i am planning to setup a mail server for my own use (not as hillary :) ) for that what i will require ? |
| 17:26.14 | i11ega1Code | anyone here? |
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| 17:27.33 | jelly | i11ega1Code: which debian release is that? What does "LC_ALL=C date --utc" say? |
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| 17:27.45 | zykotick9 | TomTomTosch: thanks. |
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| 17:28.02 | TomTomTosch | Stadtpirat: well, you can just set an alias if it bothers you. |
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| 17:28.35 | i11ega1Code | hello jelly, i just did date --set which worked |
| 17:28.52 | jelly | i11ega1Code: that doesn't mean you fixed it, tho. |
| 17:29.04 | TomTomTosch | Stadtpirat: and yes, everything in jessie should work with systemd. |
| 17:29.41 | Stadtpirat | nice thx |
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| 17:30.18 | jelly | samba35: 3-6 months of patience, unless you already know a ton of stuff about mail |
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| 17:30.42 | IbHnKnkcTVnwzknZ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsJLNGVJ7E & https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15893, https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/23561, http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-foundation-idUSKBN12Z2SL & https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774 (ctrl+f qatar) - please don't let these be buried |
| 17:30.42 | samba35 | ic |
| 17:31.18 | jelly | tries to convince erryone not to selfhost mail services |
| 17:31.19 | TomTomTosch | zykotick9: if it interests you, here is the relevant piece of code (line 41) https://sources.debian.net/src/htop/1.0.3-1/UptimeMeter.c/ |
| 17:31.33 | Howdy | Why we even talking bout Billary n Trump |
| 17:31.37 | Howdy | there was Johnson |
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| 17:31.47 | jelly | Howdy: ignore the spam, please |
| 17:31.57 | TomTomTosch | zykotick9: if days > 100 it sets a (!) behind days, nothing more going on. |
| 17:31.58 | Howdy | Tru |
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| 17:37.20 | i11ega1Code | jelly how do i fix it? |
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| 17:40.47 | gebruiker | i11ega1Code: you throw some women and let them fight in the jelly |
| 17:41.05 | i11ega1Code | lol |
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| 17:42.01 | kareelee | guys what's an alternative to iptables ? |
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| 17:43.06 | TomTomTosch | ferm is a frontend for iptables that i sometimes like to use. |
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| 17:43.11 | gebruiker | kareelee: linux kernel has only iptables but i there are some side projects like dummynet, a linux port of the bsd firewall |
| 17:43.30 | kareelee | PF ? |
| 17:43.47 | gebruiker | http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/dummynet/ |
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| 17:44.58 | kareelee | gebruiker: I was reading a lot that iptables is old and may be replaced in the near future |
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| 17:45.16 | kareelee | I don't say i believe them, I just ask to see what choices you have |
| 17:45.25 | kareelee | I've been using openBSD and PF for a long time |
| 17:45.43 | kareelee | but I am setting up a RPI and I want to setup a firewall there :) |
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| 17:46.17 | gebruiker | I am not sure if dummynet is at a mature stage kareelee |
| 17:46.57 | jhutchins | kareelee: Some of IP tables is old because it already addressed necessary things years ago, and those things haven't changed. Other parts are newer and deal with newer things. |
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| 17:47.27 | jhutchins | kareelee: iptables is what you should use; there are front ends that can make it easier to configure, but you can also just write the rules in a script. |
| 17:47.30 | kareelee | jhutchins: so If you want to invest in building a device you'd use iptables ? |
| 17:47.31 | rattking | kareelee: you might be thinking of nftables |
| 17:47.52 | kareelee | sure, rules in a file |
| 17:47.56 | jhutchins | kareelee: If you're running linux, iptables is what does the job. |
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| 17:48.01 | kareelee | thank you |
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| 17:49.55 | kion | maybe we will start using more ip6tables in the near future... but it works exactly the same |
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| 17:52.14 | jelly | i11ega1Code: first you show the output of that one command, so someone here can see if your clock is actually correct now or not |
| 17:52.33 | jelly | i11ega1Code: which debian release is that? What does "LC_ALL=C date --utc" say? |
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| 17:59.30 | r3m | ,v bitlbee |
| 17:59.47 | judd | Package: bitlbee on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.0.5-1.2; jessie: 3.2.2-2+b1; stretch: 3.4.2-1.1; sid: 3.4.2-1.1 |
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| 18:10.34 | Meerkat | Videos in VLC is of garbage quality. I think it is because I updated my drivers unless there is a new known bug around. |
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| 18:11.34 | mtn | Meerkat: which version of debian and how did you update your drivers? |
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| 18:13.10 | Meerkat | I'm on Debian 8. nvidia drivers 352 to 367. I removed old drivers by purging their packages and installed nvidia-driver from jessie-backports. |
| 18:13.37 | Meerkat | So far I can only see that VLC videos were affected. Netflix and games are flawless. |
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| 18:14.44 | i11ega1Code | jelly: after i set it manually by date --set it says this: Mon Nov 7 19:14:08 UTC 2016 |
| 18:14.57 | mtn | Meerkat: if you go back to the older driver, does it work fine? |
| 18:15.16 | Meerkat | I'm curious as to how. |
| 18:15.21 | Meerkat | I'd like to try it. |
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| 18:15.59 | mtn | Meerkat: just reverse what you did before |
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| 18:18.12 | Meerkat | mtn, the old driver version doesn't seem to be available on jessie-backports anymore. |
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| 18:18.32 | mtn | Meerkat: is that where you got it? not from the standard repos? |
| 18:18.47 | Meerkat | yes |
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| 18:19.14 | Meerkat | the standard repo only has version 340 which was too old for some game I played before. I'd rather not go back that far. |
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| 18:22.41 | mtn | Meerkat: I don't know much about nvidia, but can you adjust the card settings? |
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| 18:23.12 | jhutchins | !snapshot |
| 18:23.13 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
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| 18:26.26 | Phen | Hey guys. I screwed up big time, and I need to boot debian off of a usb stick through grub. I've done some googling, and the instructions i've found are for booting the installation image, which works fine. I need to boot an actual working debian image though, how would i go about doing that? |
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| 18:26.41 | Kobaz | Phen: knoppix |
| 18:26.50 | nkuttler | Phen: supergrub |
| 18:27.15 | jhutchins | Phen: Get a live image. |
| 18:27.17 | jhutchins | !live |
| 18:27.17 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. See also <live firmware>. Currently you CANNOT install in <UEFI> mode from a Debian Live image. |
| 18:27.27 | Phen | jhutchins did that already |
| 18:27.31 | Phen | http://blog.viktorpetersson.com/post/93191892924/how-to-boot-from-usb-with-grub2 |
| 18:27.45 | rudi_s | !grml |
| 18:27.45 | dpkg | grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/ #grml on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:27.46 | Phen | I worked off of this guide, but i pointed grub to the live vmlinuz and the live initrd |
| 18:27.56 | jelly | Phen: where do you have grub installed, on the same usb stick or some other disk? |
| 18:28.06 | Phen | on the HDD on my computer |
| 18:28.26 | jhutchins | Phen: Does your bios not boot from USB? |
| 18:28.28 | rozie | Phen: why do you need to use grub to boot from usb? |
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| 18:28.54 | Phen | because my computer boots into grub immidiately after booting into the USB |
| 18:29.07 | Phen | and i cant change the boot order because i, uh, forgot the BIOS supervisor password |
| 18:29.08 | jelly | Phen: you should be able to open a grub editor or command line and fix the devices and paths |
| 18:29.33 | nkuttler | Phen: check your manual for how to reset the board |
| 18:29.54 | Phen | I know how to, i just need to pop out the coin battery on my mobo for a few minutes |
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| 18:30.06 | Phen | but will that destroy my boot setup? |
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| 18:30.27 | rozie | that will reset password |
| 18:30.28 | nkuttler | Phen: you boot from the disk, not the board |
| 18:30.30 | jelly | that will destroy any bios settings |
| 18:30.48 | nkuttler | so, depending on what boot setup means, it might |
| 18:31.19 | Phen | Ok, forget about the USB for a second, lets say I reset my mobo, and start my computer, will everything still boot into grub? |
| 18:31.24 | rozie | still, many bioses have separate key to change boot order |
| 18:31.37 | rozie | not sure if admin pass is needed there |
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| 18:31.52 | flr | Hey |
| 18:32.13 | rozie | Phen: that doesn't matter. you will be able to change the boot order then... |
| 18:32.21 | jelly | Phen: maybe, maybe not, but you'll probably be able to change the settings to boot off the right disk in case it doesn't boot the same grub from the same disk |
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| 18:33.18 | Phen | i dont get why booting through grub doesnt work though |
| 18:33.35 | Phen | Its a live image, it should be more or less self contained, right? |
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| 18:33.54 | nkuttler | Phen: what is a live image? |
| 18:34.38 | flr | Hey guys, it'd be awesome if someone could help me, please. I think that I got a quite "simple" problem - the device isn't connecting to the wireless network automaticly ( http://hastebin.com/seleweraxe.md ) thanks in advance |
| 18:34.41 | Phen | Isn't it just a debian installation that can be booted off of removable media? |
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| 18:35.13 | nkuttler | Phen: the debian live image? yeah |
| 18:35.29 | Phen | alright |
| 18:35.43 | Phen | so then how come pointing grub to the live vmlinuz and the live initrd |
| 18:35.48 | Phen | and then running boot doesnt work |
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| 18:36.18 | nkuttler | Phen: you shouldn't have to point the live image grub at anything, it can boot the image on it's own |
| 18:36.29 | nkuttler | Phen: if that doesn't happen, it sounds like your image is corrupt |
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| 18:37.00 | Phen | nkuttler its not booting from USB because my BIOS boot order is different and im not in a position to change it |
| 18:37.16 | nkuttler | Phen: so why do we talk about this live image at all? |
| 18:37.17 | Phen | so I more or less need to go through grub for now, but my original question is why doesnt it owkr |
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| 18:37.52 | Phen | Because the debian install on my hdd is destroyed |
| 18:37.55 | nkuttler | oh wait, you want to boot the live image with the grub on your hd, got it |
| 18:38.01 | Phen | yes |
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| 18:38.26 | nkuttler | anyway, just reset the board |
| 18:38.38 | Phen | but wont that kill my grub setup? |
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| 18:38.47 | nkuttler | Phen: no |
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| 18:39.21 | Phen | so if i reset the board, and then reboot, my computer will boot into grub like normal? |
| 18:39.36 | nkuttler | Phen: do you mean the grub on usb? |
| 18:39.53 | nkuttler | Phen: you said your disk is destroyed, nobody know what happens when you boot it |
| 18:40.02 | Phen | its not the disk thats destroyed |
| 18:40.36 | Phen | just the debian installation. I cant boot into it, but I think i can fix it if i can get another linux instance running, then mount that partition and run some stuff |
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| 18:42.37 | Phen | but how do i boot debian installed on a flash drive through my hdd grub |
| 18:43.29 | flr | so no one got any hint for me? |
| 18:44.05 | nkuttler | flr: i just use network-manager.. |
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| 18:44.22 | flr | commandline |
| 18:44.39 | nkuttler | well, there is nmcli |
| 18:44.44 | flr | but thx anyway |
| 18:45.10 | Phen | does grml have aptitude? |
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| 18:45.51 | jelly | Phen: yes, why do you ask about grml? |
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| 18:46.13 | Phen | i need to boot a linux image off of my flash drive using the grub on my hdd |
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| 18:46.40 | jelly | and where does grml fit? |
| 18:47.16 | Phen | it was suggested by several people here when i mentioned that the debian live image doesnt work when booted form the grub on my hdd |
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| 18:48.13 | jelly | not sure how adding a _second_ usb device is going to help, but alright |
| 18:48.41 | Phen | there's only 1 usb device |
| 18:48.53 | jelly | where would you put grml then |
| 18:49.06 | Phen | on the usb device currently containing the debian live image |
| 18:49.33 | jelly | where's your debian installation, then?! |
| 18:49.40 | Phen | on the hard drive |
| 18:49.54 | jelly | and you also have grub on the hard drive |
| 18:50.10 | jelly | and grub boots up and can be worked with |
| 18:50.20 | Phen | yup |
| 18:50.39 | Phen | its just the debian installation thats boned |
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| 18:50.54 | jelly | broken how? |
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| 18:51.19 | Phen | I was hoping that I could save myself the embarassment, but i guess not. I rm -rf'd /etc |
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| 18:51.38 | Phen | I was fiddling around with a rootfs for a beagle bone black and i got my /etc's mixed up |
| 18:51.39 | jelly | and you don't have a backup? |
| 18:51.44 | Phen | nope |
| 18:52.02 | jelly | whoops |
| 18:52.03 | nkuttler | ugh, just reinstall |
| 18:52.05 | Phen | but apperently there's somehting that can recover deleted files off of ext4 filesystems |
| 18:52.13 | greycat | ... |
| 18:52.22 | greycat | Back up /home *now*, and then reinstall. |
| 18:52.28 | jelly | Phen: nope, forget about that. Your other files are fine tho. |
| 18:52.39 | Phen | /home is backed up |
| 18:52.51 | noqnio1 | Hey. I am running jessie with Nvidia prop. drivers from experimental. apt suggested to autoremove some packages and i did it without thinking, now an application needs libcudart6.5 but i can't install it, not from stable neither from experimental. Is is only a i386 package? |
| 18:52.54 | Phen | First thing i did when i realized something went wrong |
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| 18:53.03 | jelly | then fix your bios, boot off live media, and reinstall |
| 18:53.19 | Phen | http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/ |
| 18:53.30 | nkuttler | ,v libcudart6.5 |
| 18:53.32 | judd | No package named 'libcudart6.5' was found in amd64. |
| 18:53.33 | Phen | can I reinstall without having to reinstall grub? |
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| 18:53.46 | greycat | grub is like the LEAST of your problems |
| 18:53.49 | noqnio1 | Removing libcudart6.5:amd64 (6.5.19-3~bpo8+1) ... |
| 18:53.49 | noqnio1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:53.49 | jelly | Phen: you will want to reinstall grub at some point |
| 18:54.07 | nkuttler | noqnio1: looks like it |
| 18:54.11 | noqnio1 | nkuttler: what do you mean |
| 18:54.16 | jelly | ,v libcudart6.5 |
| 18:54.17 | judd | No package named 'libcudart6.5' was found in amd64. |
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| 18:54.24 | nkuttler | noqnio1: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libcudart6.5 |
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| 18:54.36 | noqnio1 | oh. |
| 18:54.45 | noqnio1 | but im running the experimental drivers, how can it be in backports |
| 18:55.04 | jelly | ,v libcudart7.5 |
| 18:55.05 | judd | Package: libcudart7.5 on amd64 -- jessie-backports/non-free: 7.5.18-4~bpo8+1 |
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| 18:55.24 | greycat | is confused by this package that exists only in jessie-backports |
| 18:55.33 | Phen | I'm not sure what to do if i have grub installed already. Can i just boot from a live image and go through the install process like normal? |
| 18:55.45 | nkuttler | noqnio1: btw, don't mix stable + experimental.. |
| 18:55.47 | jelly | noqnio1: likely the packaging has changed in sid (and experimental) since |
| 18:56.04 | nkuttler | Phen: fix your bios already |
| 18:56.10 | noqnio1 | nkuttler: i know it is not advised but some times it is the only option! |
| 18:56.17 | noqnio1 | i tried to install it from bp now and still it cant find it |
| 18:56.19 | jelly | nkuttler: nvidia drivers are supposed to be a tiny exception to that rule. The maintainers try to take care they're installable even on stable. |
| 18:56.29 | nkuttler | jelly: i see |
| 18:56.40 | jelly | sometimes they miss things, apparently |
| 18:57.19 | noqnio1 | i have non-free in backports on my sources.list, but still apt-get cant find it :s |
| 18:57.28 | greycat | noqnio1: /lastlog judd |
| 18:57.52 | jelly | noqnio1: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache search libcudart" |
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| 18:58.18 | jelly | noqnio1: don't forget to run an "apt-get update" before |
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| 18:59.57 | noqnio1 | https://paste.debian.net/893379/ |
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| 19:00.25 | noqnio1 | apt-get install -t jessie-backports libcudart6.5 <-- thats what i tried |
| 19:01.01 | flr | nkuttler: thanks :) |
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| 19:05.35 | noqnio1 | i don't get it, how can packages.debian.org list it as in jessie-backports and apt cant find it |
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| 19:06.46 | noqnio1 | it also removed linvblas which i can't find either, does that mean my cuda is ruined? |
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| 19:09.02 | jhutchins | noqnio1: Do you see backports when you do an apt update? |
| 19:09.07 | noqnio1 | yes |
| 19:09.31 | noqnio1 | Get:45 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie-backports/non-free amd64 |
| 19:09.32 | jhutchins | noqnio1: Do an apt search then, perhaps part of the version number is actually part of the package name. |
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| 19:09.49 | noqnio1 | root@darwin:/etc/apt# apt-cache search libcudart* |
| 19:09.49 | noqnio1 | libcudart7.5 - NVIDIA CUDA Runtime Library |
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| 19:10.04 | jhutchins | noqnio1: Do you have main and contrib as well? |
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| 19:10.12 | molavy | hi |
| 19:10.13 | noqnio1 | yes |
| 19:10.41 | molavy | i just installed debian on VPS, but on ping google.com can't connect any site |
| 19:10.43 | jhutchins | noqnio1: Then I suppose it's possible your repo has a glitch. |
| 19:10.58 | jhutchins | noqnio1: You should be able to browser the repo and download it, or try another repo. |
| 19:11.45 | molavy | any idea? |
| 19:11.45 | noqnio1 | i changed from httpiredir to ftp.de.debian and again nothing |
| 19:12.18 | molavy | i connected to VPS using ssh but can't ping google and any other site |
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| 19:13.08 | molavy | apt-get update also remain at |
| 19:13.08 | molavy | 0% [Connecting to httpredir.debian.org] [Connecting to security.debian.org] |
| 19:13.29 | molavy | any idea? |
| 19:13.37 | missmbob | !httpredir issues |
| 19:13.37 | dpkg | The <httpredir> service selects bad mirrors for some people. If you're one of them, try explicitly choosing a mirror: "deb http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian jessie main" etc. (where XX is your, or a nearby, country code). Avoid using the US mirror round robin; ask me about <mirror list> <ftp.us.debian.org>. |
| 19:14.48 | kion | molavy, seems like you don't have internet access, check you network card, firewall rules, etc... |
| 19:15.42 | molavy | i can connect to vps using ssh, but seems true, i will disable firewall |
| 19:15.44 | molavy | thanks |
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| 19:20.48 | noqnio1 | is it possible that they removed libcudart6.5 from the repos? and why would they do that? |
| 19:21.32 | molavy | kion: how can i disable iptables and firewall |
| 19:22.26 | kion | molavy, what does sudo iptables -L -vn gives you? |
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| 19:23.32 | molavy | kion: http://dpaste.com/3T1P42R |
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| 19:24.37 | missmbob | molavy: did you not see what the bot said about httpredir ? |
| 19:25.26 | kion | molavy, your firewall is configured to allow all traffic, the problem is somewhere else |
| 19:26.37 | kion | molavy, can you see network interfaces with 'sudo ifconfig' ? like eth0 or wlan0? |
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| 19:26.54 | missmbob | it has nothing to do with that. sigh. otherwise he wouldn't be able to ssh in |
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| 19:27.58 | kion | missmbob, I guess you are right |
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| 19:29.01 | noqnio1 | so, libcudart6.5 seems to have disappeared. Is there a place where people in the repositories give reasoning behind their acts? |
| 19:29.26 | kion | molavy, if you ping 8.8.8.8 what happens? |
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| 19:31.59 | kion | molavy, did you say you could ssh into your debian box? |
| 19:32.05 | missmbob | noqnio1: because it became libcudart8.0 |
| 19:32.28 | missmbob | got replaced by i should say |
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| 19:33.14 | noqnio1 | but why should the previous version disappear, i can't run certain programs now |
| 19:33.31 | noqnio1 | where are the .deb files inside a repository? |
| 19:33.33 | missmbob | so you upgraded from jessie and broke stuff? |
| 19:33.39 | greycat | noqnio1: in the pool directory |
| 19:34.08 | noqnio1 | i updated, and then autoremove |
| 19:34.19 | greycat | Never autoremove. |
| 19:34.26 | greycat | Stupidest stupidest STUPIDEST feature ever created. |
| 19:34.46 | molavy | kion: yes |
| 19:34.49 | missmbob | noqnio1: are you still in jessie? |
| 19:34.54 | noqnio1 | yes |
| 19:34.55 | kion | greycat, why is that? I allways have done it when apt asks for it |
| 19:35.03 | missmbob | noqnio1: so get it from jessie-backports. it's still there |
| 19:35.08 | noqnio1 | it is not :( |
| 19:35.18 | missmbob | ,v libcudart6.5 |
| 19:35.19 | judd | No package named 'libcudart6.5' was found in amd64. |
| 19:35.31 | molavy | kion: ping 8.8.8.8 not show any result hang on |
| 19:35.33 | greycat | kion: see what noqnio1 is saying for an example. He had an old version of a lib that he was actually *using* (presumably stuff he compiled from source, not packaged) and now it's gone. |
| 19:35.42 | missmbob | noqnio1: https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/libcudart6.5 |
| 19:35.43 | noqnio1 | yes, it was compiled from source |
| 19:35.45 | kion | molavy there is something very strange, in you iptables report, you have 0 packets gone trough the INPUT chain, at least the packets from your ssh session should show there |
| 19:35.57 | noqnio1 | missmbob: i see that, but it is not really there |
| 19:36.04 | kion | molavy, maybe you are ssh'ing into a wrong address |
| 19:36.19 | noqnio1 | root@darwin:/etc/apt# apt-get install -t jessie-backports libcudart6.5 |
| 19:36.19 | noqnio1 | E: Package 'libcudart6.5' has no installation candidate |
| 19:36.24 | missmbob | noqnio1: that package is i386 only. are you using multiarch? you needed that libary for a 32-bit binary, right? |
| 19:36.37 | noqnio1 | no, i was using the amd64 version |
| 19:37.01 | greycat | noqnio1: it exists when I click the i386 link and then select the URL and wget --spider -S it. |
| 19:37.07 | missmbob | molavy: or you could read what i had the bot tell you about httpredir |
| 19:37.26 | noqnio1 | i need the amd64 version |
| 19:37.34 | greycat | there isn't one |
| 19:37.52 | jelly | noqnio1: maybe you an find old packages on |
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| 19:37.54 | jelly | !sdo |
| 19:37.54 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
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| 19:37.58 | kion | molavy, the 0 packets trough your Chains in iptables, show a system that is not connected to any network at all, I have no idea how can you ssh into it, |
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| 19:38.21 | greycat | You could download the source package and try to build it. I don't know how this package works. |
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| 19:38.54 | molavy | kion: http://dpaste.com/0KDXVSQ |
| 19:39.35 | molavy | missmbob: seems that that is not my problem |
| 19:39.42 | molavy | i can't ever ping google.com |
| 19:39.49 | noqnio1 | thank you jelly |
| 19:40.23 | missmbob | you really need to lead with that. cat /etc/networks wont help any or show anything useful. did you edit /etc/resolv.conf and add nameservers in there? |
| 19:40.46 | missmbob | something like "nameserver 8.8.8.8" with no quotes |
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| 19:40.54 | jhutchins | Wouldn't there be a step of enabling ip forwarding somewhere? |
| 19:41.06 | lutralontra | i have an older macbook pro (9,2) and i want to put debian on it. do i need to keep os x around? this page makes no reference of that: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple/MacBookPro/9-2. i would rather just use debian only on it. looking on the debian wiki it's unclear to me. all i see here: https://wiki.debian.org/MacBook#Single_boot_.28Debian_only.29 is a reference to squeeze |
| 19:41.14 | molavy | missmbob: http://dpaste.com/0CAA04J |
| 19:41.30 | lutralontra | i mean do i need to keep os x to boot my system |
| 19:41.31 | noqnio1 | how has this marvelous debian snapshot thingy missed my sights |
| 19:41.39 | kion | missmbob, He has not have a single packet into his computer!!! it is not DNS related.. |
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| 19:41.58 | kion | missmbob, check his iptables report up there |
| 19:41.59 | jhutchins | lutralontra: You might need osx for things like bios updates. |
| 19:42.35 | jhutchins | lutralontra: If you have install media for later, you could go ahead and wipe the disk. |
| 19:43.05 | jhutchins | lutralontra: I do know that people commonly do that with macs, dual boot is actually a bit challenging. |
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| 19:43.23 | jhutchins | !mac |
| 19:43.23 | dpkg | [mac] Media Access Control, see <mac change>; Macintosh, see <apple>, <m68k>, <macbook>, <powerpc>, <macsound>; Mandatory Access Control, see <apparmor>, <selinux>, <tomoyo>; Monkey's Audio Codec, see <ape>. |
| 19:43.30 | gebruiker | !release stretch |
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| 19:43.45 | jhutchins | !macbook |
| 19:43.46 | dpkg | macbook is probably http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook . For the Pro model, ask me about <macbookpro>. For the Air series, ask me about <macbookair>. See also <laptop>. |
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| 19:43.58 | gebruiker | !stretch release date |
| 19:44.03 | missmbob | gebruiker: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch#Before_the_release |
| 19:44.10 | jhutchins | gebruiker: When it's ready. |
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| 19:44.20 | gebruiker | missmbob: thanks |
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| 19:46.21 | lutralontra | jhutchins: ok, so i should be able to install debian as the sole os on my machine and not have to worry about booting? |
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| 19:46.48 | kion | is there a way to know in the terminal if certain package also has a version in backports? |
| 19:47.06 | greycat | Not without installing something. |
| 19:47.40 | TomTomTosch | apt-cache policy <pkg> if you have backports in your sources. |
| 19:47.42 | kion | greycat, so opening synaptics and checking the versions is the way to do it? |
| 19:47.44 | jhutchins | lutralontra: Correct, you should be able to boot with only Debian on it. It has UEFI I believe, you'll need to keep that. |
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| 19:47.55 | greycat | If you've already got jessie-backports added, and you've run apt-get update, then you can use apt-cache show pkgname. If you get TWO blocks of output with different versions, then it's a pretty good bet one of them is from jessie-backports. |
| 19:48.06 | jhutchins | lutralontra: Be sure to read http://wiki.debian.org/MacBookPro and the install guide (/msg dpkg ig). |
| 19:48.18 | lutralontra | thanks |
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| 19:48.59 | greycat | titan:~$ apt-cache show xserver-xorg-video-intel | grep ^Version |
| 19:48.59 | greycat | Version: 2:2.99.917+git20160706-1~bpo8+1 |
| 19:48.59 | greycat | Version: 2:2.21.15-2+b2 |
| 19:49.16 | molavy | kion: how i can i open 80 request connection on iptables |
| 19:49.27 | greycat | (Also, if one of the versions has "bpo" in it, that's another sign.) |
| 19:49.47 | kion | greycat, thanks! |
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| 20:02.20 | jhutchins | molavy: This is based on VMWare, but it should work the same for what you're using: https://brianoflan.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/how-to-redirect-network-traffic-to-your-virtual-machines-run-by-vmware-player-in-linux/ |
| 20:05.25 | molavy | jhutchins: great thanks, so i should contact vps support? |
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| 20:06.41 | jhutchins | molavy: I have no idea what you mean by that, the article explains how to manage traffic to/from a virtual machine, which is what I thought you were trying to do. If so, read it. |
| 20:07.29 | molavy | jhutchins: thanks |
| 20:08.43 | jhutchins | molavy: If you're not managing the virtual machine but are trying to connect to/from a commercially hosted vps, yes, contact their support for information on networking and what ports are available. |
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| 20:19.48 | molavy | jhutchins: yes, thanks a ton |
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| 20:28.02 | ToApolytoXaos | evince 3.22.1-2 on debian testing 64-bit fully updated has a peculiar issue. as soon as I open a PDF file, it goes fully maximized by itself and does not let me unmaximize the window; hot keys don't work, manual resizing the window is prevented too. I'm using XFCE4 |
| 20:28.10 | greycat | !debian-next |
| 20:28.10 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 20:28.41 | ToApolytoXaos | greycat: "* Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." |
| 20:28.57 | ToApolytoXaos | that's the channel I have tried to join first and redirected me here |
| 20:28.57 | gry | ToApolytoXaos, on oftc not on freenode |
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| 20:29.07 | ToApolytoXaos | darn it -_- I forgot about it |
| 20:29.08 | ToApolytoXaos | cheers |
| 20:29.13 | gry | :) |
| 20:29.15 | greycat | If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 20:30.01 | ToApolytoXaos | I completely ignored the message, because I thought I was on the right server |
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| 20:56.40 | TheAvatar | Hey - can I see what takes up a DISPLAY slot? "A VNC server is already running as :32" |
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| 21:02.26 | greycat | Adiós. |
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| 21:15.00 | fhffhqvb | well, that was weird and annoying. system stuck with a boatload of cron instances and it wouldn't let me restart it, or -HUP init, or even reboot from the commandline. |
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| 21:44.26 | DoctorD90 | hi! guys, how could I set default program from terminal? |
| 21:44.40 | Anonymes | Hi |
| 21:44.42 | greycat | What do you mean by "default program"? |
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| 21:46.18 | rhe | yeah, default program for doing what? |
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| 21:47.10 | DoctorD90 | hi greycat :) i mean that when I instal libreoffice, debian opens .xlsx files with archive manager, or .rft with gedit. And each time I update libreoffice form .debs (removing old, install news) my "GUI settings" about open .rft with writer, and .xlsx with calc get disappear :P so I thougth to create a simple script to auto-set my default libreoffice related stuff opening :) |
| 21:47.32 | thedogcatcher | After upgrading an older PXE server to Jessie, clients can no longer get to the vesamenu when PXE booting. It hangs at "Chainloading" for a few seconds, and then the boot fails. Any ideas? |
| 21:47.39 | greycat | Oh, you mean "tell my desktop environment to open files with .xyz extension with program abc"? I have no idea. It would depend on which DE you use. |
| 21:48.29 | DoctorD90 | gnome, and yes greycat, that one :P |
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| 21:51.41 | DoctorD90 | greycat, /usr/share/gnome/applications/defaults.list :D find out maybe :D ....but now i have to understand how to edit.....uff >.> |
| 21:52.10 | greycat | Anything in /usr/share is system-wide. Not for you. No touchie. |
| 21:52.22 | greycat | Find a GNOME channel if nobody here knows (I sure as hell don't know). |
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| 21:53.27 | mycae | Hi, stupid question, but does ilmbase have copyrighted code? debian/copyright says Files: * Copyright: 2005, Industrial Light & Magic (...) |
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| 21:54.39 | greycat | Almost all software is copyrighted. You need to continue reading to find the license. |
| 21:54.43 | mycae | Thats it |
| 21:54.46 | DoctorD90 | greycat, why I should not touch? The pc has only 1 user, and user is me :P is not rigth to edit that one? |
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| 21:55.04 | greycat | DoctorD90: Find out how you're SUPPOSED to do it, because your personal GNOME settings probably override that file anyway. |
| 21:55.07 | mycae | http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/i/ilmbase/unstable_copyright |
| 21:55.27 | DoctorD90 | greycat, oh. gotcha :) thx! |
| 21:55.36 | greycat | "Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: ..." |
| 21:55.39 | greycat | That's your license. |
| 21:55.48 | vlad__ | Hello, I'm trying to add a file to initramfs, how can I do this? Also it is my understanding that the /boot partition is not available while initramfs is loaded? |
| 21:55.52 | mycae | Hmm. |
| 21:56.04 | greycat | Well, part of the license. Apparently it varies from file to file. |
| 21:56.07 | comodorowolf | ola |
| 21:56.10 | greycat | Good luck. |
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| 21:56.41 | mycae | maybe then in : https://sources.debian.net/src/ilmbase/2.2.0-11/Half/halfExport.h/ |
| 21:56.42 | mycae | ? |
| 21:57.00 | mycae | it says "confidential and proprietary" |
| 21:57.30 | greycat | ,v ilmbase |
| 21:57.31 | judd | No package named 'ilmbase' was found in amd64. |
| 21:57.39 | greycat | *shrug* |
| 21:57.51 | mycae | its a source package |
| 21:58.07 | mycae | generates libilmbase12 |
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| 22:13.16 | popout | Can you run KDE with 2gb of ram? |
| 22:13.26 | greycat | sure |
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| 22:15.03 | otyugh_III | hey. My /etc/network/interfaces is ignored, what package can "be before that" causing the problem ? |
| 22:15.16 | otyugh_III | something like a network manager or such |
| 22:15.21 | otyugh_III | I guess |
| 22:15.40 | greycat | /etc/network/interfaces should have priority over network-manager for the interfaces that are defined in /e/n/i |
| 22:15.48 | otyugh_III | weird |
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| 22:15.53 | greycat | Anything that's *not* defined there, n-m will take over. |
| 22:16.07 | otyugh_III | the /etc/network/interfaces defines eth0 manually |
| 22:16.14 | otyugh_III | the adress it takes on reboot is dhcp |
| 22:16.20 | greycat | If you want to be absolutely sure you're in control, you could always just delete network-manager. |
| 22:16.29 | otyugh_III | well it's not installed |
| 22:16.39 | otyugh_III | I'm just wondering if it could be something of that sort |
| 22:17.03 | greycat | If some locally installed script runs a dhcp client daemon by hand.... |
| 22:17.06 | otyugh_III | as long as I know it's a net install, I shouldn't have this behaviour |
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| 22:17.42 | otyugh_III | erh. I don't know where to look, bummer |
| 22:18.00 | greycat | Start by seeing which dhcp client daemon is running, if any. |
| 22:18.10 | greycat | Then try to figure out who made it run. |
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| 22:19.37 | otyugh_III | root 542 0.0 0.3 2552 1548 ? Ss 22:19 0:00 /sbin/dhcpcd -q -w |
| 22:19.40 | otyugh_III | there is that... |
| 22:20.28 | th0r | otyugh_III, has anyone looked at your interfaces file? |
| 22:21.02 | th0r | otyugh_III, you should be able to define the ip address in interfaces, but there are a few lines in /etc/dhcpcd.conf that need to be added as well |
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| 22:21.45 | th0r | otyugh_III, dhcpcd is a relatively new addition to the game. |
| 22:21.57 | greycat | I thought it was really really *old*. |
| 22:22.08 | greycat | Not as old as pump, but.... |
| 22:22.26 | greycat | ,v dhcpcd |
| 22:22.27 | judd | Package: dhcpcd on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:3.2.3-11+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 1:3.2.3-11+deb7u1 |
| 22:22.30 | th0r | greycat, i hope not...it gave me fits when I was trying to define my dns servers |
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| 22:22.53 | th0r | maybe our definitions of old are different <smile> |
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| 22:23.03 | otyugh_III | http://paste.debian.net/893437/ |
| 22:23.10 | greycat | ,v dhcpcd5 |
| 22:23.11 | judd | Package: dhcpcd5 on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.5.6-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.5.6-1+deb7u2; jessie: 6.0.5-2; stretch: 6.10.1-1; sid: 6.10.1-1 |
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| 22:24.18 | th0r | otyugh_III, that is the way I was trying to do it...old way. let me get a link to my note on dhcpcd and interfaces for you. |
| 22:24.33 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.34 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.08 | otyugh_III | I'm pretty sure it should work, allas |
| 22:25.41 | greycat | Anyway, it appears that a "dhcpcd" program has been around a long time, under various maintainers. |
| 22:25.51 | greycat | Not sure how much it has changed over the decades. |
| 22:26.35 | greycat | otyugh_III: review your /e/n/i file, and if you don't see a dhcp entry there, find out what's starting dhcpcd |
| 22:27.22 | otyugh_III | mhm, I guess it would be systemd |
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| 22:27.59 | th0r | otyugh_III, dhcpcd will overwrite the dns info. You need to define that in dhcpcd.conf. |
| 22:28.15 | otyugh_III | wat |
| 22:28.32 | th0r | otyugh_III, unfortunately, I just moved to epiphany and google drive won't let me in without downloading and installing some crap in my browser. |
| 22:28.37 | otyugh_III | the issue is that I get a dhcp ip, not any dns stuff related ? |
| 22:28.53 | Gruselbauer | hey, is there a way to tell the network install process to try again if it times out? |
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| 22:31.46 | Gruselbauer | i'm on terribly spotty interwebs and I'd really like to not lose the install progress, but it's been hanging at 97/271 packages for a while |
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| 22:46.53 | OverCoder | hi guys |
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| 22:47.35 | OverCoder | tl;dr, I was never a C dev but I'mt rying to build a package and maintain a PPA for it |
| 22:47.37 | OverCoder | So basically I got some magic done in the debian directory, "debuild -b -uc -us" seems to work and generates bunch of .deb files, but "debuild -S" doesn't, throws an error |
| 22:47.39 | OverCoder | pastes |
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| 22:50.36 | zykotick9 | OverCoder: "I'mt rying to build a package and maintain a PPA for it" <- so you're probably looking for the #ubuntu channel |
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| 22:51.39 | OverCoder | o, right, thanks |
| 22:51.39 | OverCoder | also why I'm lagging by something like 3 minutes |
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| 22:57.21 | otyugh_II | ok, it was simply a misspell somehow |
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| 22:57.43 | Piraty | hello in here. a friend has strange bahaviour of enigmail (icedove-plugin, packaged via apt) and gpg. it seemd gpg is called with wrong parameters and therefore cannot perform some basic tasks. He lives on testing-branch right now, didn't change anything on gpg on purpose (he is new to linux and only updates via synaptic...). my question would be, how can i safely restore default settings of gpg and/or enigmail to overcome this? i found |
| 22:57.43 | Piraty | several alike articles/forum entries on the net, but none mentioned the part of false cmd options, which is the output of the enigmail log. i tried to solve by purging the enigmail and gnupg+gnupg2 package (which should be the same i guess) and removed enigmail related entries in the thunderbird folder. reinstalling both packages+deps gave me the same thing. i should mention that initially, the problem lied elsewhere, as the gnupg trustdb was |
| 22:57.43 | Piraty | damaged or sth., and enigmail suggested to re-create the trustdb. so i did and ended up with the previously described scenario. thanks for reading and pleae help me ;) |
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| 22:59.29 | zykotick9 | Piraty: "He lives on testing-branch right now,... (he is new to linux..." <- a BAD combination |
| 22:59.49 | Piraty | may be related? |
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| 23:00.32 | Piraty | i haven't found other debian-testing related info about this issue. it would be more of that if the problem would be upstream |
| 23:00.51 | zykotick9 | dpkg: tell Piraty about debian-next |
| 23:03.38 | Piraty | what do you mean? |
| 23:05.12 | Piraty | ah got it |
| 23:05.20 | Piraty | thanks anywa |
| 23:05.21 | Piraty | y |
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| 23:53.20 | phale | how do I check if my RAM amount isn't faulty, because it's showing as 1.6GB ram and that seems like an odd amount of RAM |
| 23:53.26 | phale | on Debian of course |
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| 23:56.02 | n4dir | probably memtest |
| 23:56.11 | n4dir | phale: |
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| 23:56.36 | phale | n4dir, memtest86? |
| 23:57.33 | n4dir | yeah, probably. |
| 23:57.40 | phale | ok ill try |
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| 23:57.57 | n4dir | you did understand that you have to select it from boot-menu? |
| 23:58.06 | phale | yeah i will in a few minutes |
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| 23:58.32 | n4dir | bout an odd amount of RAM: in my case that is the internal graphic card. |
