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| 00:03.41 | OldMerovingian | I am new to Debian and I am having issues getting a package for some reason. I can see it online but apt won't complains that it isn't found |
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| 00:04.10 | OldMerovingian | Can anyone verify that libxcb-xrm-dev is in the repos? |
| 00:04.29 | missmbob | ,v libxcb-xrm-dev |
| 00:04.37 | judd | Package: libxcb-xrm-dev on amd64 -- stretch: 1.0-1; sid: 1.0-1 |
| 00:04.39 | missmbob | OldMerovingian: it's not in jessie. |
| 00:04.41 | OldMerovingian | Maybe it is only in testing? |
| 00:04.45 | OldMerovingian | Ah ok |
| 00:05.09 | missmbob | ,checkbackport libxcb-xrm-dev |
| 00:05.10 | judd | Backporting package libxcb-xrm-dev in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
| 00:05.38 | missmbob | !tell OldMerovingian about ssb |
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| 00:06.37 | martman | im trying to install redmine. i created a /etc/apache2/sites-available/redmine.conf file, but im not sure what else needs to be done to get apache happy |
| 00:06.44 | martman | guides online seem to gloss over this |
| 00:07.43 | abrotman | martman: a2ensite might help |
| 00:07.46 | OldMerovingian | missmbob: thank you! |
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| 00:09.40 | martman | <OldMerovingian> yep ran that too |
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| 00:11.24 | martman | any other ideas |
| 00:11.25 | martman | ? |
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| 00:13.21 | abrotman | martman: a2ensite, then restart apache .. |
| 00:14.21 | martman | abrotman yep, i did that too |
| 00:14.38 | martman | not really sure how to troubleshoot something like this, not sure if all the right plumbing is in place |
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| 00:14.54 | abrotman | martman: then you look at your logs when you try to access the site |
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| 00:16.36 | martman | stuff in in /var/log/apache isnt lookin too helpful |
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| 00:21.43 | martman | when i browse to the ip i just get a generic apache page |
| 00:21.49 | martman | how can i make redmine the default? |
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| 01:30.46 | fguide | Hello, could anybody help me with Xorg conf? I have two monitors, each on a different adapter (nvidia and ati) but for some reason I cannot have them both working after X is loaded. dmesg shows both drivers loaded but still I just have the screen on nvidia working. I have the xorg.conf pasted here: https://paste.linux.community/view/ff017ab6 |
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| 02:41.59 | Screamslash | how can i convert a file to an iso in debian? |
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| 02:55.24 | ryouma | Screamslash: genisoimage -J -r -o "${f:?}" "$@" |
| 02:55.28 | ryouma | at least, that's what i use |
| 02:55.54 | Screamslash | what looks like a foreign language to me |
| 02:56.02 | Screamslash | where does the output go and wheres the input path |
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| 02:56.14 | ryouma | but if you have long filenames, you must do genisoimage -joliet-long -J -r -o "${f:?}" "$@" |
| 02:56.37 | ryouma | that is a fragment from a shell function. just replace the variables with filename and the files you want to make into an iso |
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| 02:56.44 | ryouma | variables start with $ |
| 02:57.13 | ryouma | Screamslash: genisoimage -J -r -o "a.iso" "a.jpg" |
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| 03:23.41 | awal1 | How to send x window from monitor a to b b to a using keyboard? |
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| 03:26.09 | awal1 | or "something" that will let me emulate mouse drag action? |
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| 03:27.11 | reggin | backwards |
| 03:27.27 | galex-713 | Hey, does anyone know if there's a way to browse the web freely and not with the slowness typical of firefox? |
| 03:27.36 | galex-713 | (freely i.e. with free software only) |
| 03:27.39 | SirLagz | galex-713: use links? |
| 03:27.50 | reggin | galex-713: firefox is not slow |
| 03:27.55 | reggin | maybe your connection is slow? |
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| 03:27.59 | galex-713 | *browse the web freely and graphically |
| 03:28.01 | galex-713 | reggin: fiber |
| 03:28.06 | SirLagz | galex-713: Chromium? |
| 03:28.09 | galex-713 | reggin: around 20 MB/s |
| 03:28.19 | reggin | reggin: what? |
| 03:28.25 | SirLagz | galex-713: or just stop visiting slow websites |
| 03:28.39 | reggin | i mean galex-713 |
| 03:28.40 | galex-713 | Chromium is way quicker than firefox but has all the googleâs problem around privacy, proprietary css properties, unconfigurability etc. |
| 03:28.49 | reggin | i think u were pinging the wrong person |
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| 03:29.17 | reggin | anyway, dont ping me unnecessarily by accident. or I will ddos you off the face of the interwebz |
| 03:29.20 | galex-713 | SirLagz: well most of useful websites are slow⦠|
| 03:29.36 | SirLagz | galex-713: well then I guess you'll need to put up with slow browsing then :P |
| 03:29.36 | reggin | im a leet haxer |
| 03:29.44 | awal1 | galex-713: luakit is fine |
| 03:29.52 | SirLagz | reggin: you spelt it wrong. It's 1337 h4x0r :P |
| 03:29.53 | reggin | and try reading my nick backwards |
| 03:30.05 | reggin | SirLagz: lol |
| 03:30.11 | galex-713 | awal1: luakit? |
| 03:30.17 | awal1 | yeah |
| 03:30.42 | reggin | galex-713: uhm...... what websites are you having speed issues with? |
| 03:31.07 | reggin | the porn server might be overloaded too, not just your PC |
| 03:31.36 | galex-713 | Search engines, most wordpress blogs, youtube, wikipedia, github⦠|
| 03:31.41 | galex-713 | that kind of stuff |
| 03:32.43 | galex-713 | and generally everything is faster when using either chromium, either a non-web (ie non xml/sgml/css) interface, like youtube-dl, weboob, plowdown, etc. |
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| 03:33.15 | reggin | chromium is free |
| 03:33.34 | reggin | chrome is free too, but not open source. Chromium is open source too. |
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| 03:34.30 | galex-713 | chromium, as I already said, has privacy issues, as well as other political problems because of Googleâs decisions, like proprietary css properties, etc. |
| 03:34.51 | reggin | chromium, not chrome. Not Google. |
| 03:35.05 | reggin | also, i was not here "earlier" |
| 03:35.13 | galex-713 | chromium *is* made by google |
| 03:35.16 | galex-713 | mostly google devs |
| 03:35.22 | galex-713 | using google translate too |
| 03:35.24 | galex-713 | and google servers |
| 03:35.27 | galex-713 | and google caches |
| 03:35.31 | galex-713 | and google dns servers |
| 03:35.34 | galex-713 | and google search |
| 03:35.40 | galex-713 | using webkit |
| 03:35.47 | galex-713 | or blink, forgot which one |
| 03:36.00 | galex-713 | more precisely the css properties google has decided to support |
| 03:36.05 | galex-713 | but the one google has decided to kill |
| 03:36.21 | galex-713 | and with optimizations for google websites |
| 03:38.00 | galex-713 | chrome is just chromium but fully proprietary, with DRM support |
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| 03:38.28 | rue_shop3 | anyone alive? |
| 03:38.30 | bibble | mobile browsers |
| 03:38.36 | rue_shop3 | anyone used usb over ethernet? |
| 03:38.39 | rue_shop3 | pointers? |
| 03:38.48 | AlexLikeRock | viva la piñata! |
| 03:39.00 | galex-713 | bibble? |
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| 03:39.46 | AlexLikeRock | no way !, always bether GNU thant Linux |
| 03:39.51 | AlexLikeRock | no way !, always better GNU thant Linux |
| 03:39.51 | bibble | galex-713: other than firefox, chromium only option ? ..but seem to be many mobile web browsers on android etc |
| 03:40.07 | AlexLikeRock | mozilla RULEZ ! |
| 03:40.18 | galex-713 | :/ |
| 03:40.33 | galex-713 | my computer is i486, not arm |
| 03:40.38 | galex-713 | so canât benefit of fdroid |
| 03:40.50 | galex-713 | and javaâs slow here anyway |
| 03:41.01 | bibble | dillo |
| 03:41.37 | bibble | but no javascript |
| 03:41.43 | galex-713 | dillo? |
| 03:41.46 | missmbob | ,i epiphany-browser |
| 03:41.47 | judd | Package epiphany-browser (gnome, optional) in jessie/amd64: Intuitive GNOME web browser. Version: 3.14.1-1; Size: 1716.7k; Installed: 2696k; Homepage: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Web; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/epiphany-browser |
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| 03:41.56 | missmbob | ,i midori |
| 03:41.56 | awal1 | galex-713: free solid browsers you have 2 choices: firefox & chromium. otherwise, you have webkit based, but not really recommended for a very personal use where security is a concern (luakit, sombreo...(. also you have links and similars, but with limited features |
| 03:41.57 | judd | No package named 'midori' was found in jessie/amd64. |
| 03:42.05 | bibble | it's a browser galex-713 |
| 03:42.14 | awal1 | sombreo ^ |
| 03:42.15 | galex-713 | epiphany is worse than firefox, tend to freeze |
| 03:42.32 | missmbob | ,v midori |
| 03:42.33 | judd | Package: midori on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.4.3+dfsg-0.1; jessie-backports: 0.5.11-ds1-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.5.11-ds1-4; sid: 0.5.11-ds1-4; experimental: 0.5.12~wk2-exp1 |
| 03:43.10 | galex-713 | why webkit would have security concerns? |
| 03:43.32 | bibble | ah, midori yeah. and possibly sombreo then ? ..though haven't heard of it |
| 03:43.37 | awal1 | galex-173: if you dont like webkit based or firefox&chromium, your alternative is: don't browse the web at all :P |
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| 03:44.06 | galex-713 | awal1: Iâve been practicizing this so much people think Iâm leaving in an underground cavern :P |
| 03:44.26 | galex-713 | webkit seems nice, still canât understand why epiphany freeze this way |
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| 03:44.40 | awal1 | galex-173: no much more to say. you have two choices: firefox or chromium |
| 03:44.54 | missmbob | vivaldi. opera. |
| 03:45.32 | awal1 | opera is based in chromium, if i'm not wrong |
| 03:45.51 | missmbob | it is. but it doesnt send crap back to google like he's worried about |
| 03:46.32 | awal1 | and it's more configurable then chromium/chrome |
| 03:46.43 | galex-713 | opera is proprietary afaik |
| 03:46.50 | missmbob | my daily driver is vivaldi. love it |
| 03:47.02 | awal1 | never heard about vivaldi |
| 03:47.07 | awal1 | ,v vivaldi |
| 03:47.08 | judd | No package named 'vivaldi' was found in amd64. |
| 03:47.25 | awal1 | missmbob: webkit based? |
| 03:47.37 | missmbob | https://vivaldi.com/ |
| 03:47.41 | missmbob | chromium based |
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| 03:49.55 | awal1 | galex-173: sombrero is created by some openbsd devs |
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| 03:50.44 | missmbob | xombrero* |
| 03:50.55 | awal1 | oh yeah, xombrero, sorry :P |
| 03:51.26 | P0RN | how do i make naked vagina pictures not seen on computer? like be hidden from my mom? |
| 03:51.40 | awal1 | i tried them all. firefox is the nº 1 |
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| 03:54.40 | awal1 | Not by chance almost all gnu / linux distributions choose firefox as the default web browser |
| 03:55.15 | jeep | opera browser predates chrome by a decade probably |
| 03:55.45 | missmbob | jeep: not after version 12. they dumped everything and started over with chromium |
| 03:56.30 | awal1 | now Avast have it's own web browser, based on chrome too :D |
| 03:56.48 | awal1 | for window platform ^ |
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| 04:00.26 | bibble | missmbob: vivaldi seems interesting, thanks |
| 04:00.37 | missmbob | bibble: you're welcome |
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| 04:11.48 | rue_shop3 | hey, wait, I have some programs I want to make into official debian packages, is anyone here somone who is signed and all that junk to help me? |
| 04:12.19 | missmbob | !tell rue_shop3 about mentors |
| 04:12.51 | rue_shop3 | so, nobody here is? |
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| 04:13.46 | rue_shop3 | I looked into it, I dont ahve a year of my life to dedicate to getting certified and learning the system to do it |
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| 04:15.26 | rue_shop3 | reading about it did make me understand why debian is shy of software packages and some people just start their own package servers for their software |
| 04:16.42 | rue_shop3 | I'm not gonna read for 3 hours again, no was an acceptable answer |
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| 04:17.27 | jeep | quality > quantity |
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| 05:31.52 | Screamslash | im running a windows xp guest in virtualbox is there anyway i can just like open the virtual machine hdd and just grab a folder out bc none of the sharing options are working |
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| 05:37.21 | Texou | Screamslash: maybe with host-only feature |
| 05:37.39 | Texou | you could mount a samba share folder |
| 05:37.41 | awal1 | Screamslash: you need virtualbox-guest-additions-iso |
| 05:37.51 | Screamslash | yeah i did that |
| 05:38.25 | Texou | samba or virtualbox-guest-additions-iso? |
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| 05:38.54 | awal1 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/SharedFolders may help |
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| 05:39.48 | Screamslash | also does anyone know how i can make a floppy image file in linux? |
| 05:40.10 | Texou | Screamslash: with dd? |
| 05:40.29 | Screamslash | i need it to be like a big blank writable floppy image |
| 05:40.39 | Texou | oh |
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| 05:40.48 | Texou | don't think Vbox supports this |
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| 05:41.06 | Texou | see VBoxManage|grep floppy |
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| 05:41.17 | Screamslash | it does |
| 05:41.22 | Screamslash | it supports floppy images |
| 05:41.27 | Screamslash | i just need something else to make it |
| 05:41.43 | Texou | ok |
| 05:41.45 | Texou | dunno |
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| 05:54.19 | n4dir | i am looking for a command line solution to "grep for a pattern" on a website with a few subsites, all contain (short) lists of words. |
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| 05:55.40 | han-solo | grep 'pattern' file |
| 05:56.04 | n4dir | han-solo: well, that works if i got a file. |
| 05:56.25 | han-solo | why don't you get the source? |
| 05:56.44 | n4dir | you mean why i don't wget the website? |
| 05:56.45 | hiya | anyone using jabber.ccc.de? is it down? |
| 05:57.12 | han-solo | i don't know if you can use grep to scrap data from a website on the fly |
| 05:57.22 | han-solo | try python |
| 05:57.42 | n4dir | i don't want to use grep, i am asking if there is a similar solution for searching for a pattern on a website |
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| 05:58.33 | han-solo | try #python |
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| 06:13.14 | RoyK | n4dir: perl and python and php and whatnot supports 'perl regular expressions', which are very good. grep etc also supports regex, but the old and fairly simple sort |
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| 06:14.37 | n4dir | Royk Not sure if i haven't been clear. My problem is how to search a website for a certain word from the commandline |
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| 06:21.35 | RoyK | n4dir: explain, please - I don't quite understand |
| 06:22.05 | n4dir | which part of that don't you understandt: |
| 06:22.10 | n4dir | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:23.09 | RoyK | well, use some way of downloading the webpage, there are libs for all modern languages, and run a regex search through the text |
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| 06:24.17 | n4dir | of course. That would be an option. Would be weird if there was no better one |
| 06:25.11 | n4dir | similar to surfraw, but without a searchengine, only searching a certain URL |
| 06:25.47 | n4dir | I am not speaking bout writing such software, but if such software already exists, btw |
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| 06:28.30 | RoyK | n4dir: you could use a crawler like nutch with solr and then let that do the searching |
| 06:28.33 | RoyK | https://wiki.apache.org/nutch/NutchTutorial |
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| 06:30.40 | n4dir | ok, that. thanks |
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| 06:36.35 | n4dir | in the meantime i found this: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/build-basic-web-crawler-pull-information-website/ |
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| 06:55.42 | n4dir | and here is what i was looking for: |
| 06:55.56 | n4dir | lynx -dump -nolist http://name-of/yada |
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| 08:09.42 | azonenberg | Hi guys |
| 08:09.46 | azonenberg | Having some issues with multiarch |
| 08:10.03 | azonenberg | in particular, trying to get libcrypto++-dev installed as both i386 and amd64 on an amd64 system |
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| 08:10.32 | azonenberg | it appears that installing it as 32-bit removes the 64-bit package and vice versa |
| 08:10.39 | azonenberg | so how do i get both 32 and 64 bit binaries? |
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| 08:11.03 | azonenberg | I'm trying to build an app for multiple architectures at once on the same host (eventually ARM and some others as well) |
| 08:11.15 | azonenberg | So i'll be cross-compiling for them all from an amd64 host |
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| 08:11.48 | IamX | Hi |
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| 08:23.43 | azonenberg | (this is on jessie btw) |
| 08:26.42 | IamX | Hello |
| 08:26.56 | IamX | I have a question |
| 08:27.10 | IamX | Can you help me ? |
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| 08:30.13 | SirLagz | IamX: not without knowing what you need help with |
| 08:30.25 | jticket | IamX What is your question. |
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| 08:35.33 | brimonk | Does anyone know of premade .deb packages for obs-studio? I've been trying to compile it myself, but I keep getting segfaults whenever I attempt to record to the disk instead of stream. |
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| 08:41.26 | n4dir1 | brimonk: look here, but all i can say that i found it https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=39264&hilit=obs+studio&sid=e40e912d1f7a508fb09578c305e5dc85 |
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| 08:46.03 | brimonk | I don't suppose there would be any half decent way of simply using the ubuntu package. |
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| 08:48.30 | gebruiker | brimonk: what package? I might be able to backport it |
| 08:48.59 | n4dir1 | brimonk: any reason you don't want to use the MX package? |
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| 08:50.26 | brimonk | n4dir1: (I couldn't find a download link or anything of that nature, don't hate me) |
| 08:50.40 | brimonk | and obs-studio. |
| 08:52.02 | brimonk | gebruiker: It works fine for streaming, but it segfaults every time I try to record to disk. |
| 08:52.50 | brimonk | I just know that my ubuntu only friends simply add the ppa, and it just works. I would really like it to 'just work'. |
| 08:53.00 | n4dir1 | brimonk: http://mxrepo.com/MX15packages.html |
| 08:55.44 | brimonk | http://termbin.com/w4p1 is what I got when I tried to install that package. I ran an, 'apt-get install -f' to try to resolve those deps, but to no avail. |
| 08:55.48 | gebruiker | brimonk: well,.. I am willing to try to backport it. I can find the ppa and build it on the debian jessie dependencies in a chroot. You will have to test it out for me if I sucseed |
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| 08:56.21 | brimonk | gebruiker: I would love to try it! |
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| 10:40.08 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
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| 10:40.19 | mahesh | hey i wanted to build packaged of armhf.deb in multiarch system ..any documents or link please |
| 10:40.32 | ShapeShifter499 | is there a reason why /var/log/auth.log is not on my system? |
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| 10:41.04 | ShapeShifter499 | I just did a fresh install of debian ( think it was proper) and I don't seem to have any auth logs from ssh |
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| 10:41.56 | ShapeShifter499 | LogLevel VERBOSE < is in my sshd_config |
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| 10:51.03 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, what does `last -n 25` tells you? |
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| 10:52.01 | ShapeShifter499 | dutchfish: seems to show my reboots and boots |
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| 10:52.22 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, nog local and remote logons? |
| 10:52.34 | dutchfish | s/nog/no |
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| 10:52.46 | ShapeShifter499 | no sorry I read that wrong, yea shows my logons |
| 10:52.56 | ShapeShifter499 | dutchfish: I was trying to setup fail2ban |
| 10:53.14 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, ah ok |
| 10:53.27 | ShapeShifter499 | fail2ban gave me the error "ERROR No file(s) found for glob /var/log/auth.log" |
| 10:54.13 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, at the top of my hat, fail2ban has its own way of logging, have you rsyslog properly working? |
| 10:55.30 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, or fail2ban is not running as an authoritive user to use th elog system, just a hunch |
| 10:56.28 | ShapeShifter499 | dutchfish: I was just reading into rsyslog vs syslog |
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| 10:56.39 | ShapeShifter499 | I did not set up either |
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| 10:56.55 | wallbroken2 | hi |
| 10:56.57 | wallbroken2 | > |
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| 10:57.01 | wallbroken2 | i get this on the shell |
| 10:57.06 | wallbroken2 | how to quit? |
| 10:57.13 | wallbroken2 | ctrl+c does not work |
| 10:57.13 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, if you have no auth.log at all, because fail2ban have been setup before any logon was established, just do a `touch /var/log/auth.log` and try again. syslog is the default i believe on a clean install. |
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| 10:59.15 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, however i prefer rsyslog on such systems |
| 10:59.59 | ShapeShifter499 | dutchfish: what's the package name for syslog? I don't seem to have it and 'apt-get install syslog' doesn't work |
| 11:00.09 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, also delve into centralizing your logging |
| 11:00.46 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, its either syslog-ng or rsyslog |
| 11:01.13 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, read the wiki |
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| 11:03.27 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, on stretch it is rsyslog as default, i am not on a stable system currently, so unable to check it out for you |
| 11:04.09 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, you should prefer rsyslog anyway |
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| 11:08.17 | ShapeShifter499 | dutchfish: just came across this https://n8henrie.com/2015/12/default-packages-on-raspbian-jessie-jessie-lite-and-wheezy/ |
| 11:08.33 | ShapeShifter499 | I'll install rsyslog, seems to be preferred standard |
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| 11:09.27 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, right |
| 11:09.36 | ShapeShifter499 | thanks for the help dutchfish |
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| 11:09.57 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, furthermore, fail2ban has some quircks see the bug list, which you might run into https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=fail2ban |
| 11:10.03 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, yw |
| 11:10.06 | ShapeShifter499 | I was trying to get the minimal packages and I missed the syslogger |
| 11:10.17 | dutchfish | ah ok, good find |
| 11:10.44 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, i assume you have the base system installed? |
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| 11:11.03 | ShapeShifter499 | yes |
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| 11:11.26 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, ok, happens to me all the time, when debootstrapping a Debian ;) |
| 11:12.02 | ShapeShifter499 | dutchfish: what I just found out, I had busybox-syslog installed as this was a stock image for a arm board I got |
| 11:12.15 | ShapeShifter499 | I just removed it for rsyslog |
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| 11:12.40 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, that should fix it, rince and repeat |
| 11:13.41 | dutchfish | ShapeShifter499, `netstat -nla` and `ps auxww` are you friends |
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| 11:33.25 | jim | if a debian package is unknown to a particular installation of debian, given just that installation and the debianized source, how to get it to grab the build depends? |
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| 11:37.27 | jim | I'll ask on -mentors (failure to get a response) |
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| 12:10.46 | questionaire | i have placed fonts.conf in .config/fontsconfig/ ( $HOME ) ofcrouse |
| 12:10.52 | questionaire | but it does not seem to take effect |
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| 12:15.00 | lubsg | is there any decent desktop environment agnostic graphical file manager? |
| 12:16.49 | gry | mc |
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| 12:18.30 | lubsg | gry: it's ncurses, with graphical I mean X |
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| 12:19.17 | Ke | lubsg: most of the file manager still work outside of the DE |
| 12:19.46 | Ke | lubsg: pcmanfm should at least work with marginal intrusiveness |
| 12:19.53 | lubsg | Ke: but most don't make sense if you don't use the corresponding DE |
| 12:20.34 | Ke | you mean, because they start too many dependency services? |
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| 12:22.04 | lubsg | Ke: yes |
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| 12:23.15 | lubsg | Ke: pcmanfm works nice, thanks |
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| 12:53.32 | dumbl3d0re | I'll install Debian as my main OS, but I'm not sure to choice between Jessie or Stretch. I would probably prefer Jessie, but where is a critical package that today is only available in Stretch's repositories. What do you recommend me to choice? |
| 12:53.51 | dumbl3d0re | 1. Jessie and install the package that's compiled for Stretch. |
| 12:54.02 | dumbl3d0re | 2. Go with Stretch directly. |
| 12:54.17 | babilen | Which package? |
| 12:54.20 | dumbl3d0re | Neovim |
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| 12:55.18 | dumbl3d0re | I assume that it isn't possible to introduce a new package via backports? |
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| 12:55.46 | babilen | Looks as if it would require backporting of other packages also, otherwise I would have suggested creating a backport yourself. You can still do that, but it might be a bit of work. |
| 12:55.51 | babilen | dpkg: ssb |
| 12:55.51 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 12:55.57 | babilen | judd: checkbackport neovim |
| 12:56.01 | judd | Backporting package neovim in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libmsgpack-dev (>= 1.0.0), libnss-wrapper <!nocheck>, libtermkey-dev, libunibilium-dev, libvterm-dev, lua-busted <!nocheck>, lua-mpack, lua-nvim [alpha amd64 armel armhf hppa i386 mips mips64el mipsel powerpc ppc64el sparc64 x32] <!nocheck>. |
| 12:56.56 | babilen | So you options are either backporting all of those ^^ (and their dependencies), tracking a stretch/sid mix (see <ssm> -- /msg dpkg ssm) or using different software or a different distribution |
| 12:57.19 | dumbl3d0re | Yeah, guessed that. |
| 12:57.37 | babilen | I'd personally just track stretch/sid, but that might not be the right thing for you. If you consider that I'd recommend to read https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable |
| 12:57.38 | dumbl3d0re | It seems that Stretch is my only (Debian) option. |
| 12:58.00 | babilen | Having said all of that: Just use emacs with evil if you want a great vim implementation |
| 12:58.29 | babilen | Spacemacs has a good starter configuration |
| 12:58.33 | dumbl3d0re | I know both Emacs and (Neo)vim, but I prefer the later. |
| 12:59.04 | babilen | Fair enough, it was a serious recommendation though, but it is naturally up to you |
| 12:59.09 | babilen | dpkg: ssm |
| 12:59.10 | dpkg | «echo 'APT::Default-Release "stretch";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit sources.list, copy your non-security stretch lines and change one set to sid, then apt-get update. apt-get -t sid install foo; to install foo from sid rather than stretch as usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release: set Preferences->Distribution. See <jum caveat> and use this setup to track <stretch> after its release. |
| 12:59.24 | dumbl3d0re | I have used Spacemacs and got some commits accepted, but I think it's to heavy and I like the Neovim community. :) |
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| 12:59.55 | babilen | Sure, I have absolutely no problem with that and think that neovim is a fantastic development |
| 13:00.00 | dumbl3d0re | And the Neovim's "philosophy". |
| 13:00.13 | TomTomTosch | i'd probably build from upstream source if i wanted to run that on jessie. checkinstall exists as a replacement for make install. it keeps track of all files and creates a package for you. |
| 13:00.29 | babilen | TomTomTosch: You still need those build dependencies |
| 13:01.03 | dumbl3d0re | Aware of checkinstall, but when I've used earlier I didn't find any good documentation and tutorials. |
| 13:01.28 | babilen | But yeah, if it is easy to compile it on jessie then .. sure .. checkinstall or <stow> make it easy to keep track of that installation. |
| 13:01.34 | Guest58624 | i am trying to install Virtualbox on debian stretch. Ultimately getting stuck with vboxdrv. dkms seems to be building for 3.16.0-4-amd64 but i have linux headers 4.7.0-1-amd64 |
| 13:01.51 | babilen | Guest58624: You want #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for stretch/sid |
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| 13:02.22 | dumbl3d0re | Stretch will freeze in some months, so hopefully it will not be to unstable. |
| 13:02.36 | babilen | Guest58624: Also paste complete output and an overview of installed kernel/header packages (e.g. filtered dpkg -l output) |
| 13:03.03 | babilen | dumbl3d0re: unstable in the context of Debian only refers to "not changing" and has little to do with "working" btw |
| 13:03.21 | babilen | Well, "changing" actually |
| 13:04.34 | Guest58624 | babilen: http://pastebin.com/vcEBZnkT |
| 13:05.02 | dumbl3d0re | babilen: Aware of the definition of "stable" in the context, but often where is some bugs with new packages what have yet to be battle tested. |
| 13:05.28 | babilen | dumbl3d0re: Absolutely |
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| 13:05.43 | babilen | Just thought I'd clarify that common misconception |
| 13:06.36 | TomTomTosch | babilen: from what i understand, their make file pulls dependencies and builds them automagically. i guess that has been removed by the debian maintainers for obvious reasons ^^ |
| 13:07.02 | dumbl3d0re | Yeah, and I understand why you say it. Hard to how knowledgeable other people are when you don't know them. I appreciate it that you try to help me! |
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| 13:07.30 | CtrlC | Why can't jessie locate squid? |
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| 13:08.25 | CtrlC | It's squid3! |
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| 13:09.13 | help-needed-asap | fontconfig question. I have placed fonts.conf in .config/fontsconfig/ but the settings are not hounored |
| 13:09.36 | help-needed-asap | what can I do to make sure the fontconfig is listened and adhered to? |
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| 13:10.17 | help-needed-asap | correction it is $HOME/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf |
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| 13:12.10 | dumbl3d0re | Now to the preferable way to install Stretch! Install minimal Jessie and when upgrade after v.s. go directly to Stretch with the Debian Installer for Stretch? Aware of the official way is to install Jessie, but I don't want to have some old stuff from Jessie and bugs related to the upgrade when I'm running Stretch. |
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| 13:13.03 | dumbl3d0re | Do any of you know how stable the new Debian Installer release is? They released alpha 8 yesterday. |
| 13:15.52 | dumbl3d0re | babilen: What's your recommendation? |
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| 13:16.36 | help-needed-asap | it is the latest stable and afaik there are no bugs reported yet |
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| 13:18.21 | babilen | dumbl3d0re: Personally I'd give the newest debian installer a spin -- https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ (but I'd get the image with firmware) |
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| 13:18.39 | babilen | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 13:19.10 | help-needed-asap | would apprecaite some help on the fontconfig issue I am having |
| 13:19.52 | babilen | help-needed-asap: Hard to help if we don't even know what you placed in there and what you were trying to achieve. Also some information as to why you think placing that file there would have had an effect and how you check if it did. |
| 13:20.32 | babilen | I typically just run "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config" and am content |
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| 13:22.26 | dumbl3d0re | babilen: Going with that when. See you on the other side! Thanks for the help! :) |
| 13:23.19 | babilen | dumbl3d0re: Make sure to read the wiki article. Many points in there apply to running a stretch/sid mix also |
| 13:23.44 | help-needed-asap | babilen: I am trying to use terminus font in chrome, from http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=628946#p628946 . I use the suggested config. I placed the fonts.conf in my $HOME/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf because I want to use it locally and not system-wide. I read that is where I should store it because $HOME/.fonts.conf is depreciated |
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| 13:25.23 | babilen | help-needed-asap: And how did you install terminus? |
| 13:25.32 | help-needed-asap | with apt-get install |
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| 13:26.14 | help-needed-asap | I installed xfonts-terminus xfonts-terminus-dos and xfonts-terminus-oblique |
| 13:26.30 | help-needed-asap | @ babilen |
| 13:26.41 | babilen | Okay, that sounds sensible. And then? |
| 13:27.15 | help-needed-asap | then I ran fc-cache -fv ( I placed the config file already in $HOME/.config/fontconfig/ ) |
| 13:27.25 | help-needed-asap | restarted the browser and eventually rebooted. but no avail |
| 13:27.27 | babilen | Why do you think that you need a config file at all? |
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| 13:28.13 | help-needed-asap | babilen: because that is what I read on the forums.debian and people say that it works |
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| 13:29.31 | babilen | help-needed-asap: So you cannot select that font in chrome ? |
| 13:29.50 | help-needed-asap | babilen: no i can not |
| 13:29.54 | babilen | I mean, there must be a reason why you started fiddling/researching configuration for terminus to begin with |
| 13:30.14 | babilen | I wouldn't normally install a font package and create random configs before even trying the font |
| 13:30.19 | help-needed-asap | it is a pleasant font and i wondered if I could use it while browsing too |
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| 13:30.34 | help-needed-asap | I use terminus in my terminal too |
| 13:30.58 | babilen | So you can use it in your terminal, but not in chrome? |
| 13:31.01 | help-needed-asap | I have not created the config I grabbed it from forums.debian where people are using it sucessfully appearently |
| 13:31.31 | babilen | Well, but *something* must have caused you to look into forums posts to begin with |
| 13:32.04 | help-needed-asap | why is that important? |
| 13:32.21 | help-needed-asap | why is not just getting it to work sufficient? |
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| 13:33.09 | babilen | No, that is sufficient |
| 13:34.05 | babilen | I just want to understand the problem and by your account you created configs and rebooted before even trying anything. I, rightfully I guess, assumed that you tried some things in the interim that you didn't mention |
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| 13:35.34 | babilen | Is the font shown in Chromium? |
| 13:36.02 | help-needed-asap | No I placed a config I grabbed from github ( which I found through forums.debian ), after that I installed terminus font with apt-get and placed the config from github in $HOME/.config/fontconfig/ and ran fc-cache -fv and restarted the chrome browser |
| 13:36.25 | help-needed-asap | then as I saw that it didn't change I rebooted ... |
| 13:36.35 | Emil | Hey |
| 13:36.39 | babilen | Yeah, so the reason why you started looking into it was because the font wasn't listed in chrome |
| 13:37.11 | Emil | I have the acer aspire one zg5. Should I use 585 or 686-PAE on install? |
| 13:37.12 | help-needed-asap | the reason why i started looking because it seemed that the changes did not come through |
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| 13:37.18 | password2 | yo |
| 13:37.22 | Emil | I only have 1 or 2 gigs of memory |
| 13:37.54 | babilen | Emil: You can use i386 or amd64 on that box. |
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| 13:38.03 | Emil | babilen: no such selection |
| 13:38.10 | babilen | Selection where? |
| 13:38.19 | Emil | but amt64 works on this? |
| 13:38.29 | Emil | Then I shall reburn my usb stick |
| 13:38.33 | help-needed-asap | babilen: i feel you are making it more difficult thant it is |
| 13:38.35 | Emil | babilen: when booting the install media |
| 13:39.25 | Emil | I previously had a 32-bit os on this but if it does support 64 bits then heck yeah, 64 bits it is |
| 13:39.28 | babilen | Emil: Just checked, you can't use amd64 on that Atom N270 |
| 13:39.35 | Emil | babilen: okay, good to know |
| 13:39.48 | babilen | help-needed-asap: I just wanted to know what the problem is. So: Does it show the font in Chromium? |
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| 13:40.07 | help-needed-asap | babilen: no it does not show |
| 13:40.07 | babilen | help-needed-asap: People don't normally copy and paste random configs without a reason |
| 13:40.24 | babilen | help-needed-asap: Just to clarify: I am referring to Chromium (not Chrome) |
| 13:40.31 | Emil | (And above of course it was 586 instead of 858) |
| 13:40.31 | help-needed-asap | babilen: i have both installed |
| 13:40.34 | Emil | 585* |
| 13:41.04 | help-needed-asap | babilen: the font is better for my eyes |
| 13:41.15 | babilen | help-needed-asap: I couldn't reproduce it not being shown in chromium on unstable, which is why I ask |
| 13:42.06 | help-needed-asap | oh so you have terminus shown in your chromium ? I have no idea what I did wrong then.. |
| 13:42.33 | babilen | I do, but not in Chrome |
| 13:42.45 | babilen | (but I'm running unstable on this box) |
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| 13:44.08 | babilen | dpkg: tell Emil -about pae |
| 13:44.27 | help-needed-asap | babilen: where have you placed the fonts.conf ? also in $HOME? |
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| 13:45.52 | babilen | help-needed-asap: Nowhere, the package ships its own in /etc/fonts/conf.avail/50-enable-terminus.conf (/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-enable-terminus.conf) |
| 13:46.16 | babilen | Which is why I wondered why you thought that you have to create a configuration file yourself |
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| 13:48.59 | help-needed-asap | babilen: because the fonts.conf is there to force* the use of terminus to the browser : https://gist.github.com/kynnjo/e7ff06a3f8fbee01eccd |
| 13:49.56 | help-needed-asap | force chromium to use terminus |
| 13:49.59 | babilen | I take it that the font is listed in "fc-list" ? |
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| 13:51.27 | help-needed-asap | babilen: yes it is listed |
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| 14:02.31 | zykotick9 | help-needed-asap: just an FYI, my Chromium on stable doesn't seem to apply any font changes. While i see terminus in the list, selecting it doesn't seem to change anything - so i tried changing all the fonts to OpenSymbol - restarted chromium, still no change... best of luck. |
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| 14:18.12 | babilen | zykotick9: Which makes it even more mysterious why it doesn't list Terminus for help-needed-asap |
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| 15:02.04 | Beretta021 | hi, all, i installed debian on my vm, i'm trying to set static ip, i added it to /etc/network/interfaces, after service networking restart nothing happens, after reboot i don't have ip |
| 15:02.54 | zykotick9 | Beretta021: perhaps posting your /e/n/i file would assist people in helping. best of luck. |
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| 15:03.05 | Beretta021 | one sec |
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| 15:04.15 | sh00p | Beretta021, are you running a gui? in that case network manager might interfere |
| 15:04.46 | sh00p | also, posting the mentioned file will be useful |
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| 15:05.54 | Beretta021 | http://pastebin.com/pKcvJved |
| 15:06.09 | Beretta021 | i'm in gui |
| 15:06.13 | Beretta021 | i tried to disable gui |
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| 15:06.31 | zykotick9 | should have been more specific on where to paste :( |
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| 15:06.45 | Beretta021 | but nothing happens, i don't know what is happening with os |
| 15:06.55 | sh00p | which one Beretta021? gnome? kde? |
| 15:07.02 | Beretta021 | gnome |
| 15:07.03 | Beretta021 | fuck |
| 15:07.05 | Beretta021 | xfce |
| 15:07.07 | Beretta021 | lol |
| 15:07.08 | Beretta021 | :D |
| 15:07.09 | sh00p | :) |
| 15:07.15 | Beretta021 | i see what's the problem |
| 15:07.16 | Beretta021 | :D |
| 15:07.21 | sh00p | xfce is my fav, there should be a network-manager applet running |
| 15:07.45 | sh00p | you can set static ip there |
| 15:07.48 | bitgamy | network-manager takes over the show, when using gui |
| 15:08.38 | sh00p | yeah, there is a way to configure network-manager to not run for certain interfaces, but i never bothered |
| 15:08.41 | Beretta021 | i don't want gui |
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| 15:09.00 | Beretta021 | which dm is on xfce? |
| 15:09.09 | sh00p | lightdm i think |
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| 15:09.58 | mtn | Beretta021: if network manager is running, you don't have a choice |
| 15:10.18 | bitgamy | you can remove network-manager from list of init processes that start automatically |
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| 15:10.53 | bitgamy | its not required |
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| 15:12.06 | Beretta021 | can i disable it via systemd or debian doesn't have systemd? |
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| 15:14.34 | mtn | Beretta021: try it and see? |
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| 15:16.00 | bitgamy | try service network-manager status |
| 15:16.06 | bitgamy | service network-manager stop |
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| 15:17.32 | Beretta021 | i want to disable |
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| 15:17.35 | Beretta021 | not to stop |
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| 15:18.58 | Beretta021 | bitgamy: i'm more familiar with systemd |
| 15:19.13 | bitgamy | try removing symbolic link from /etc/init.d/network-manager |
| 15:20.31 | bitgamy | then reboot, it should not come back up automatically |
| 15:22.04 | bitgamy | Beretta021: sorry what deb ver you running? you aren't using systemd? (i missed the first part of the conversation) |
| 15:22.53 | Beretta021 | installed fresh debian yesterday |
| 15:23.18 | bitgamy | what ver deb? 8? |
| 15:23.24 | Beretta021 | i think it is |
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| 15:24.08 | bitgamy | then you're likely using systemd vs the older sysvinit |
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| 15:25.09 | Beretta021 | but why systemd doesn't work, i tried systemctl disable network-manager but it starts after reboot :( |
| 15:25.24 | Beretta021 | also tried update-rc.d |
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| 15:25.59 | babilen | Beretta021: network-manager typically doesn't manage interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:26.38 | babilen | (and you want mask) |
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| 15:28.07 | bitgamy | Beretta021: Did you try to remove the /etc/init.d/network-manager symbolic link and restart? |
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| 15:33.15 | Beretta021 | ok, nm is disabled now |
| 15:33.39 | Beretta021 | do i need dhcpcd or something to /etc/network/interfaces work? |
| 15:33.44 | babilen | Beretta021: systemctl mask if what I'm referring to, but that shouldn't be necessary as NM won't manage interfaces in /e/n/i -- You can also purge it completely if you don't want to use it at all (which makes a lot more sense than masking it IMHO) |
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| 15:34.15 | babilen | Beretta021: If you could paste your /etc/network/interfaces to http://paste.debian.net we could take a look and provide some pointers |
| 15:34.34 | Beretta021 | here it is |
| 15:34.35 | Beretta021 | http://pastebin.com/pKcvJved |
| 15:34.37 | babilen | And no, you typically don't have to run a DHCP server to use a DHCP client (if that is what you want to do) |
| 15:34.41 | babilen | dpkg: pastebin.cim |
| 15:34.41 | dpkg | babilen: wish i knew |
| 15:34.43 | babilen | dpkg: pastebin.com |
| 15:34.48 | dpkg | pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 15:35.07 | Beretta021 | lol |
| 15:35.15 | babilen | Looks as if you are configuring a static IP address. You don't need DHCP at all in that case. |
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| 15:36.15 | Beretta021 | http://paste.debian.net/895237/ |
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| 15:36.45 | babilen | Beretta021: Do you want that interface to come up automatically when you boot? |
| 15:36.51 | Beretta021 | yes |
| 15:37.04 | babilen | You need "auto eth0" in that case |
| 15:37.12 | Beretta021 | k, thanks |
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| 15:38.31 | heibol | maybe another software start the service, use systemd-cgls to see it. |
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| 15:44.37 | Beretta021 | yes, it works now |
| 15:44.40 | Beretta021 | thanks guys |
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| 15:52.32 | Beretta021 | i have one more question |
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| 15:53.10 | fredl | this is so pleasant... |
| 15:53.11 | Beretta021 | if i wan't to access to server via ssh from outside of my local network |
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| 15:53.26 | fredl | remove all that GNOME crap... run xdm/fluxbox |
| 15:53.28 | Beretta021 | do i need to forward port 22 in my router to server addr |
| 15:53.29 | Beretta021 | ? |
| 15:54.19 | Biboon | Beretta021, yes |
| 15:54.30 | Beretta021 | ok thanks |
| 15:54.42 | Biboon | Hello everyone, I would like to know your advices about the stability and bleeding edge-ness of Debian Unstable, Stretch and Arch Linux |
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| 15:55.05 | fredl | jelly, you around? |
| 15:55.17 | Beretta021 | i'm using arch, it works like a charm |
| 15:55.20 | Beretta021 | but not testing |
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| 15:57.28 | Beretta021 | Biboon: as a desktop os? |
| 15:58.03 | zykotick9 | Beretta021: testing/unstable are the development arms for debian (stable). they are moving tarkets that can be "broken" at any time... some people like to use them, i don't understand why. but i value "works everytime" above all else, ymmv. |
| 15:58.22 | zykotick9 | Biboon: ^ sorry |
| 15:58.38 | Biboon | Yes, until now i have been using debian stable and never had to complain |
| 15:59.41 | Biboon | but i want to setup a pci passtrough windows VM and it seems like that it needs more recent packages |
| 16:00.37 | Beretta021 | i tried yesterday to set up gpu passthrough, but my cpu doesn't support vt-d :( |
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| 16:01.00 | Beretta021 | on arch you need linux-vfio kernel |
| 16:01.12 | Beretta021 | other setting is pretty easy |
| 16:01.40 | Beretta021 | and vt-d cpu and mobo |
| 16:01.52 | Biboon | Yes I know this the wiki is pretty straightforward |
| 16:02.04 | babilen | Biboon: I've been using a testing/unstable mix (tracking unstable) for many years now and didn't have many problems. There were some ugly bugs, but nothing that couldn't be fixed. You have to be willing to learn a bit about Debian packaging and keep an eye on news, transitions and bugs though. |
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| 16:02.20 | babilen | Biboon: You might be interested in https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable |
| 16:03.14 | Beretta021 | problem with arch is because you need to compile kernel every time it's updated |
| 16:03.37 | mtn | Beretta021: that is just silly and wrong |
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| 16:03.54 | Beretta021 | it's third party |
| 16:04.02 | Beretta021 | there is no official vfio kernel |
| 16:04.04 | Beretta021 | for arch |
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| 16:04.45 | Beretta021 | i think that on debian/ubuntu is that much more easier |
| 16:05.24 | Beretta021 | oh i can't wait to get vt-d cpu |
| 16:05.26 | Beretta021 | :D |
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| 16:06.44 | fredl | Hmm I'm just reading https://scottlinux.com/2016/08/28/gpu-passthrough-with-kvm-and-debian-linux/ |
| 16:07.04 | fredl | And I don't think gpu passthrough is so easy with Debian |
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| 16:08.37 | Beretta021 | it's not hard at all |
| 16:08.55 | Beretta021 | no patching kernel :D |
| 16:08.59 | fredl | well it says there that in Jessie the qemu and libvirt versions are too old |
| 16:09.07 | fredl | and none in the backports |
| 16:09.31 | fredl | to be honest I'm quite stumped by that, I tried doing that same stuff unsuccesfully years ago |
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| 16:09.56 | fredl | and apparently it's *still* problematic |
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| 16:11.07 | Beretta021 | what was the problem? |
| 16:11.21 | fredl | I just said that. |
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| 16:11.35 | fredl | old versions of qemu and libvirt |
| 16:12.05 | fredl | but back when I tried it long ago, those would have seemed a breeze :P |
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| 16:12.32 | fredl | interestingly, here https://wiki.debian.org/VGAPassthrough it says minimum wheezy ir required |
| 16:12.34 | fredl | is |
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| 16:12.53 | Biboon | I got it working on arch with qemu 2.7.0 and libvirt is at 2.4.0 |
| 16:12.58 | fredl | maybe I should try it, that's be cool |
| 16:13.04 | fredl | that'd |
| 16:13.32 | Biboon | There is also the discussion between kvm and xen |
| 16:13.44 | fredl | heh that discussion is also years old. |
| 16:13.58 | fredl | I'm running on virtualbox now. |
| 16:14.34 | fredl | oh well, I'm off |
| 16:14.45 | Biboon | ok bye thanks :) |
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| 16:17.04 | daemon | hey all does anyone know what provides |
| 16:17.05 | daemon | python waf configure |
| 16:17.07 | daemon | '/usr/bin/pkg-config', 'IL', |
| 16:17.24 | daemon | I am missing a development library but search IL brings back way to many articles |
| 16:18.02 | TomTomTosch | ,file /usr/bin/pkg-config |
| 16:18.06 | judd | Search for /usr/bin/pkg-config in jessie/amd64: pkgconf: usr/bin/pkg-config; pkg-config: usr/bin/pkg-config |
| 16:18.15 | TomTomTosch | ^^ |
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| 16:18.39 | babilen | It appears that the problem is finding "IL" rather than pkg-config |
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| 16:19.02 | daemon | TomTomTosch, its not pkg-config im missing, is IL |
| 16:19.04 | babilen | But then .. there is a *lot* of context missing, so it might very well be that |
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| 16:19.11 | daemon | Checking for 'IL' : not found |
| 16:19.18 | TomTomTosch | ah, right. |
| 16:19.20 | daemon | no reference in the docs as to what it is |
| 16:19.21 | babilen | What is checking? |
| 16:19.27 | daemon | paul@box:~/quake2xp-code$ python waf configure |
| 16:19.32 | daemon | python waf script |
| 16:19.42 | babilen | quake2xp ? |
| 16:19.48 | daemon | just a quake2 engine |
| 16:20.05 | daemon | the one one in apt does not work correctly on my system |
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| 16:23.18 | daemon | all the config log says is |
| 16:23.20 | daemon | err: Package IL was not found in the pkg-config search path. |
| 16:23.20 | daemon | Perhaps you should add the directory containing `IL.pc' |
| 16:23.25 | daemon | little vague on what the heck it actually is |
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| 16:23.42 | deemel | Can't find it now somehow, what was the fstab option to ignore a partition that cannot be mounted? |
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| 16:25.27 | jim | themill, you around? |
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| 17:24.19 | |\n | hello, is there someone who has free jessie ksplice working on some instance? |
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| 17:38.11 | luxio | How do I get Atheros firmware running on Debian without an internet connection |
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| 17:38.25 | luxio | I have this https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Atheros_AR9271 |
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| 17:45.28 | nkuttler | luxio: go to packages.debian.org and download it |
| 17:46.13 | luxio | nkuttler: I can't, I have no internet |
| 17:46.25 | nkuttler | luxio: you're on irc.. |
| 17:46.29 | luxio | magic. |
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| 17:49.11 | edi | luxio: which device you use for internet atm |
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| 17:52.14 | luxio | edi: magic |
| 17:52.17 | luxio | jk the desktop that im gonna install debian on |
| 17:53.03 | missmbob | !firmware iso |
| 17:53.04 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
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| 17:55.01 | luxio | missmbob: AR9271 isn't nonfree |
| 17:55.58 | missmbob | ,pciid 0cf3:9271 |
| 17:55.59 | judd | [0cf3:9271] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in jessie or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=0cf3:9271 |
| 17:56.15 | nkuttler | !tell luxio about non-free |
| 17:56.27 | missmbob | luxio: firmware-atheros is in non-free |
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| 17:57.37 | missmbob | still might not work. you might have to install it and then get firmware-atheros from jessie-backports, perhaps new kernel from jessie-backports as well manually from packages.debian.org and then dpkg -i them |
| 17:57.55 | luxio | but AR9271 specifically is supposed to be free? https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc/open_firmware |
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| 18:00.27 | luxio | I dunno how I'm supposed to build that if I can't install git, cmake, etc |
| 18:00.32 | luxio | without internet |
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| 18:01.32 | |\n | is there someone who has free jessie ksplice working on some instance? |
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| 18:20.06 | Stiffler | hello |
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| 18:20.36 | Stiffler | looking help for how to add new item with right click open with |
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| 18:20.44 | edmont | why wouldn't udev re-populate the /dev/serial folder after replugin a device which actually appears as /dev/ttyACM0? |
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| 18:21.45 | missmbob | Stiffler: "open with other application" then it should remember it in the list for that filetype in the future |
| 18:22.02 | Stiffler | i cant find that application in that list |
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| 18:22.24 | Stiffler | just installed wine-developemnt i have to go to terminal to open .exe with it |
| 18:22.25 | missmbob | you can pick "custom command"...dont have to pick anything |
| 18:22.36 | Stiffler | dont have that option |
| 18:22.44 | Stiffler | custom commond |
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| 18:23.11 | Stiffler | it so weird in gnome3 and new nautilus |
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| 18:23.35 | Stiffler | u cant even change the gedit theme in normal mode... weird |
| 18:23.45 | missmbob | Stiffler: nautilus with custom comand shows you how in gnome. xfce here |
| 18:24.01 | missmbob | google that, i mean. |
| 18:24.29 | missmbob | Stiffler: https://askubuntu.com/questions/431703/how-to-add-open-with-custom-command-option-in-right-click-menu-of-nautilus see? it does have a custom command thing |
| 18:24.32 | Stiffler | googling it got me making things in ubuntu and arc with new mime types html sheets |
| 18:25.17 | Stiffler | not in debian... 8 nautilus --> properties --> no custome command |
| 18:25.20 | Stiffler | i see only 3 |
| 18:25.33 | Stiffler | reset / add / set as default |
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| 18:25.57 | Stiffler | where add is adding the list of the pre shown apps cant add new custom apps with it |
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| 18:30.43 | Stiffler | @missmbob thanks got it |
| 18:30.43 | Stiffler | link was helpfull |
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| 18:46.19 | Mazhive | small question what would be the best way to let me update apache2.2.22 to 2.4 since i am using debian wheezy it would break some packges.. |
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| 18:46.32 | Mazhive | not ?? |
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| 18:48.12 | comodorowolf | ola alguém em portugues |
| 18:50.07 | missmbob | !br |
| 18:50.07 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:51.15 | missmbob | Mazhive: upgrade to jessie. even then that'll break apache itself. that's why there are release notes...https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#apache-httpd-incomat |
| 18:51.27 | Mazhive | or would compile from source be a better alternative |
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| 18:55.00 | Mazhive | would dist upgrade be an option for an existing webserver and would that not break apache eventually |
| 18:55.09 | Mazhive | too |
| 18:55.41 | missmbob | it's really the only option. but yes it'll break apache because of the configuration file incompatibility between 2.2 and 2.4. so you should really read those release notes i linked you to |
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| 18:56.16 | Mazhive | so purging before dist upgrade |
| 18:56.37 | missmbob | so. you can just manually edit the config files...that'll be easier/faster. but purge would work if you dont really care |
| 18:56.39 | Mazhive | i was reading it |
| 18:57.09 | Mazhive | i have a backup so i could read from it if necessary |
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| 19:12.00 | h3ndr1ku5 | does the purge command leave configuration files that have changed by the user? just rm -rf /etc/apache and upgrade then make new configs? |
| 19:13.10 | babilen | dpkg: confnew |
| 19:13.11 | dpkg | [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall <packagename>. See also <confmiss>. |
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| 19:21.48 | mxbd | I have a wireless card that has bluetooth and wireless on it. It works out of the box on ubuntu and not on debian, believe it's a nonfree driver. I have firmware-linux-nonfree and iwlwifi installed. However, only the bluetooth is detected? I don't have a device name for the wireless portion. |
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| 19:24.29 | h3ndr1ku5 | isent there debian nonfree image also avaible? |
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| 19:24.58 | missmbob | !firmware iso |
| 19:24.58 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 19:25.06 | h3ndr1ku5 | that was easist way for live usb becouse no time for live to compile got damn drivers if needed to look something from internet |
| 19:25.24 | mxbd | http://pastebin.com/TRX0h38e Is the output of lspci and modprobes |
| 19:25.35 | h3ndr1ku5 | there should be live also, its kinda deeper @ the download section |
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| 19:25.49 | missmbob | https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ that has live with firmware |
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| 19:26.09 | missmbob | (8.6.0-live+nonfree) |
| 19:26.10 | h3ndr1ku5 | https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.6.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
| 19:26.31 | h3ndr1ku5 | go back few folders if amd64 isent for you |
| 19:28.15 | tinyhippo | whats the best way of disabling ufw from starting on boot, if you dont have physical access to the machine nad you've managed to lock yourself out via ufw |
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| 19:28.58 | n4dir | mxbd: are you looking for a live CD or do you want to enable wifi on an installed version? |
| 19:29.11 | missmbob | call someone that has physical access or get in your car/plane |
| 19:29.44 | mxbd | I have debian installed on my system. The livecd I burnt didn't have it so I figured I'd just plug ethernet in until I could figure it out. |
| 19:30.06 | mxbd | so yes, installed version |
| 19:30.19 | n4dir | mxbd: i think that is what you are looking for: https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 19:30.52 | n4dir | in general i do "lspci | grep -i network" and post the result in a searchengine and add +debian, which usually works |
| 19:31.18 | mxbd | I have iwlwifi installed, and modprobe says it's there. |
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| 19:31.37 | mxbd | My card still isn't detected though. The bluetooth portion of the same card is working. The wireless-network portion is not working. |
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| 19:32.57 | mxbd | Modprobe -r iwlwifi doesn't return a line, but I have iwlwifi installed from firmware-iwlwifi |
| 19:33.05 | oliv3r | Hi, i'm looking for the systemd-firstboot binary in debian, but it seemst o have been stripped/ommited |
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| 19:34.13 | n4dir | lspci -k will tell you which driver is used. You could do that on ubuntu and compare (can't see why it shouldn't be the same, just shooting ideas) |
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| 19:34.43 | missmbob | lspci -nn for pciid whould really be useful to know which exact chipset you're using |
| 19:35.18 | mxbd | 8086:24f3 |
| 19:35.25 | mxbd | which is listed under iwlwifi :p |
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| 19:35.59 | missmbob | you could try getting iwlwifi from jessie-backports. and a new kernel as well |
| 19:36.14 | mxbd | what do you mean a new kernel |
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| 19:36.38 | missmbob | i mean upgrade the kernel to 4.7 which is in jessie-backports |
| 19:36.40 | n4dir | mxbd: you probably read this already (seems a different problem anyway) https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi#Troubleshooting In short: that are all my ideas ... good luck |
| 19:36.58 | missmbob | !tell mxbd about backports |
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| 19:37.23 | missmbob | mxbd: read those instructions. then upgrade the kernel and iwlwifi to the jessie-backports version. reboot. |
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| 19:37.54 | mxbd | will do, thanks n4dir missmbob. I'll come back |
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| 19:38.21 | h3ndr1ku5 | isent the easist way would just add non free repo and do apt upgrade |
| 19:38.51 | n4dir | upgrade does nothing if you only enable non-free |
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| 19:39.06 | missmbob | he already has it. |
| 19:39.20 | h3ndr1ku5 | are you sure? |
| 19:39.26 | n4dir | of coursee |
| 19:39.27 | mxbd | I have nonfree in my sources list |
| 19:39.28 | missmbob | yes |
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| 19:41.10 | h3ndr1ku5 | maye i just got newer kernel what included driver for my wifi back in the days then |
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| 19:41.35 | h3ndr1ku5 | is it pci or usb device? |
| 19:42.08 | missmbob | he has a pciid. what's that tell you? |
| 19:42.18 | h3ndr1ku5 | paste output from lsub/lspci |
| 19:42.27 | h3ndr1ku5 | well pcie i suppose |
| 19:42.56 | missmbob | mxbd: pretty much ignore this noise :/ |
| 19:43.08 | mxbd | http://pastebin.com/TRX0h38e Is the output of lspci and modprobes h3ndr1ku5 :) |
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| 19:45.26 | mxbd | How do I verify that iwlwifi is active? |
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| 19:45.31 | mxbd | the package is installed |
| 19:45.35 | mxbd | but how do I knwo it's "there" |
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| 19:46.20 | mxbd | modprobe iwlwifi doesn't return anything, but firmware-iwlwifi is installed. the disconnect is here |
| 19:46.52 | alecs1 | hi, since I updated a couple of days ago I have two projects which are no longer able to link to static libraries: |
| 19:46.52 | alecs1 | /usr/bin/ld: ../gnugo/patterns/libpatterns.a(helpers.c.o): relocation R_X86_64_32S against undefined symbol `white_eye' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC |
| 19:46.52 | alecs1 | /usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Nonrepresentable section on output |
| 19:47.04 | alecs1 | any change to ld that I should be aware of? |
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| 19:47.59 | h3ndr1ku5 | maybe you need the never firmware to be installed |
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| 19:48.09 | h3ndr1ku5 | read microcode / ucode |
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| 19:48.45 | h3ndr1ku5 | iwlwifi-8000-ucode-16.242414.0.tgz for kernel 4.3+ |
| 19:48.46 | n4dir | mxbd i assumed "lsmod | grep iwlwifi" would do it, but it just failed on me. not sure. |
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| 19:49.24 | mxbd | iwlwifi 96547 0 |
| 19:49.24 | mxbd | cfg80211 413730 1 iwlwifi |
| 19:49.28 | mxbd | Mine returned two ? |
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| 19:49.37 | h3ndr1ku5 | "The files iwlwifi-8000C-16.ucode provided in this package |
| 19:49.37 | h3ndr1ku5 | must be present on your system in order for the Intel Wireless WiFi Link |
| 19:49.37 | h3ndr1ku5 | AGN driver for Linux (iwlwifi) to operate on your system. |
| 19:49.59 | h3ndr1ku5 | Installation of the firmware is simply: |
| 19:49.59 | h3ndr1ku5 | % cp iwlwifi-8000C-16.ucode /lib/firmware |
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| 19:50.39 | h3ndr1ku5 | reboot after that i suppose |
| 19:50.40 | mxbd | I've actually done that already -- I've downloaded ucode-15 and ucode-13 |
| 19:50.46 | mxbd | so I need 16? instead |
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| 19:50.56 | h3ndr1ku5 | 16? for the 8000 series |
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| 19:51.04 | h3ndr1ku5 | Installation of the firmware is simply: |
| 19:51.04 | h3ndr1ku5 | % cp iwlwifi-8000C-16.ucode /lib/firmware |
| 19:51.29 | mxbd | Alright, I'll downloade -16 then. thanks h3ndr1ku5 |
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| 19:52.31 | mxbd | How do I know what my kernel is? I obviously need to be at 4.3+ |
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| 19:52.40 | missmbob | uname -r |
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| 19:52.59 | mxbd | 3.16.0-4 then |
| 19:53.00 | missmbob | told you. you need to upgrade to the 4.7 from jessie-backports. |
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| 20:08.24 | mxbd | missmbob: http://pastebin.com/kdEv70mL Installing hte kernel tells me I have 3.5 ready to be installed ? |
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| 20:09.50 | missmbob | mxbd: you're doing it wrong. let's go back a bit though. show your sources.list in paste.debian.net |
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| 20:10.54 | missmbob | mxbd: if your sources.list is right you'll want to do apt-get install Univision Deportes |
| 20:10.57 | missmbob | Osorio tendrá que hacer cambios para la visita de México a Panamá. Estas son las tres bajas del 'Tri' para ese partido. |
| 20:11.00 | missmbob | damnit, sorry |
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| 20:11.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | ^ ^ |
| 20:11.19 | missmbob | apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi linux-image-amd64 -t jessie-backports |
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| 20:11.23 | fguide | lol |
| 20:11.26 | mxbd | what |
| 20:11.35 | fguide | poor Osorio |
| 20:11.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | the 4.x kernels unfortunately indeed depend on the newer linux-base |
| 20:11.54 | missmbob | obviously it was a wrong paste. |
| 20:11.59 | missmbob | which jessie-backports has |
| 20:12.07 | missmbob | so if he gave the correct -t command it would work |
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| 20:12.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes⦠it's a matter of package priorities |
| 20:13.01 | missmbob | mxbd: did that apt-get work? |
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| 20:13.55 | mxbd | missmbob: Yes, that seems to have installed something. |
| 20:14.31 | mxbd | seems like it's replaced my linux-image-amd64. Thank you |
| 20:14.39 | mxbd | reboot and see what happens next ? |
| 20:14.41 | missmbob | and the firmware? |
| 20:14.55 | mxbd | was already newest version |
| 20:15.18 | missmbob | did you use -t jessie-backports for that one too? then yes, reboot |
| 20:16.20 | mxbd | Yep. Alright, thanks for the help missmbob h3ndr1ku5, I'll brb. :) |
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| 20:37.45 | Rogach | Hi! I'm have some questions about dpkg behaviour in critical situations. For example, is it possible for dpkg to "partially" write a file (corrupting it) if it was interrupted during install? Or are file writes atomic? |
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| 20:51.40 | oliv3r | Hi, i'm looking for the systemd-firstboot binary in debian, but it seemst o have been stripped/ommited; anybody know more about this? |
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| 20:52.32 | ryouma | Rogach: i have heard that you are not supposed to interrupt aptitude upgrade, so it sounds possible that there would be issues. however, good design would mandate that that never be a problem. |
| 20:52.34 | ryouma | so dunno |
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| 20:55.17 | Sircle | Can anyone guide in these iptable rules? https://codeshare.io/GL7Lba |
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| 21:08.28 | Rogach | ryouma: I understand that I'm not supposed to, but in real world bad stuff happens and I need to remote unattended updates - so I'm interested how it would fare. |
| 21:08.32 | Rogach | ryouma: I understand that I'm not supposed to, but in real world bad stuff happens and I need to remote unattended updates - so I'm interested how it would fare. |
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| 21:14.22 | kingsley | What's the word on the street for supporting accelerated video with open source and no binary blobs? |
| 21:14.51 | kingsley | Have you heard any whispers that it's possible? |
| 21:15.24 | Stiffler | how can i change the theme of geditor .. |
| 21:15.34 | Stiffler | without going through root |
| 21:15.58 | ryouma | Rogach: indeed. i do not know why it would not be designed to be totally safe. |
| 21:16.44 | ryouma | kingsley: not sure i understand. there are free drivers that work for many cards. some might need firmware. |
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| 21:18.10 | kingsley | ryouma: I'm looking for accelerated video with no closed source. In a driver, blob, or otherwise. |
| 21:18.23 | teraflops | kingsley: for what GPU are you asking? |
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| 21:18.48 | kingsley | And I'm staring to wonder if looking for BigFoot would be a better use of my time. |
| 21:19.12 | awal1 | :D |
| 21:19.25 | teraflops | kingsley: or just ask more specifically |
| 21:20.55 | kingsley | teraflops: If you happen to know of a GPU that works with pure open source, and no closed source firmware, please enlighten me. |
| 21:21.38 | Stiffler | kingsley it will soon |
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| 21:21.47 | Stiffler | as directx is being replaced |
| 21:22.13 | kingsley | Stiffler: Which "it" are you alluding to? |
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| 21:23.00 | Stiffler | umm gpu firmware? |
| 21:23.33 | Sircle | Stiffler: did you wrote the iptable command? |
| 21:23.48 | Sircle | https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8927979 |
| 21:23.50 | teraflops | kingsley: I don't care to be honest, perhaps intel gpu with mesa but idk |
| 21:23.51 | Stiffler | oh dam |
| 21:23.57 | Stiffler | ok |
| 21:24.04 | Stiffler | ok i am confused |
| 21:24.09 | Stiffler | i am chatting in so many channel |
| 21:24.59 | Stiffler | which ip table command are u refereting too? |
| 21:25.12 | Stiffler | yes i have writen one |
| 21:25.19 | Stiffler | but which one u are talking about |
| 21:25.46 | Stiffler | sircle were u on the code site then yes |
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| 21:27.03 | Sircle | Stiffler: +catphish> zapotah: i'm pretty sure PREROUTING works on outbound traffic |
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| 21:27.48 | Stiffler | sircle i dont know how ur ip tables is or what are u trying to acheive i can only give u directions and formate |
| 21:28.06 | Sircle | hm. thanks. its a good start Stiffler |
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| 21:32.53 | missmbob | #netfilter would be better. that's the home for iptables |
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| 21:35.00 | Stiffler | some 1 tell me how to change the theme of the dam gedit in normal mode |
| 21:36.14 | missmbob | menu->preferences->font & colors |
| 21:36.52 | Stiffler | no option of preferece in normale mode.. |
| 21:37.36 | Stiffler | i only get that if i open gedit in root mode |
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| 21:38.31 | missmbob | works here. maybe you fucked it up. you can try removing ./.config/gedit/ |
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| 21:39.57 | Stiffler | just deleted it its still same |
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| 21:40.32 | missmbob | start it from command prompt and see if there are hints |
| 21:41.22 | Stiffler | their are several gtk warnings |
| 21:44.14 | Stiffler | here the warnings |
| 21:44.14 | Stiffler | https://paste.ee/p/5GEqx |
| 21:44.47 | Stiffler | i cant even view gedit version with these new gui |
| 21:45.07 | missmbob | eh those mean nothing |
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| 21:46.02 | Stiffler | exactly |
| 21:46.09 | Stiffler | those are the only things i got |
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| 21:46.27 | Stiffler | i am giving u screen wait |
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| 21:49.04 | Stiffler | http://i68.tinypic.com/2wn5pgm.png |
| 21:49.07 | Stiffler | their |
| 21:49.56 | missmbob | *shurg* i dont know what would do that |
| 21:50.35 | Stiffler | hmmm |
| 21:51.19 | Stiffler | miss u are using deb 8? |
| 21:51.44 | missmbob | yes |
| 21:51.50 | Stiffler | hmm |
| 21:51.56 | Stiffler | am stretch |
| 21:52.10 | missmbob | they have their own channel that might be more helpful. maybe they know what's going on |
| 21:52.13 | missmbob | !debian-next |
| 21:52.14 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 21:52.24 | Stiffler | its inivte only |
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| 21:52.42 | Stiffler | how can i join like that if those gay asses made it invite only |
| 21:52.42 | missmbob | read the whole message |
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| 21:53.37 | babilen | Stiffler: Please tone down those sexist remarks. Seriously, it's neither funny nor appropriate. |
| 21:53.58 | babilen | s/tone down/refrain from/ |
| 21:54.00 | Stiffler | sry my appologies |
| 21:54.32 | Stiffler | habbituated due to gamming didnt mean any racist comments |
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| 21:54.58 | babilen | It has no place in here (nor anywhere else) |
| 21:55.22 | Stiffler | its does in gamming world but meaning differs |
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| 21:56.15 | Stiffler | just enterted sry for being dumb ;p |
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| 21:56.57 | babilen | The meaning is very much the same, but lets move on. Please try to refrain from sexist remarks in the future |
| 21:57.49 | Stiffler | i will try my best :) |
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| 22:10.13 | Mazhive | small problem ... upgraded from debian 7 to debian 8 now my email tester complains my mail is been send from host.domain.com as it was before the upgrade domain.com how can i fix this |
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| 22:11.54 | Stiffler | conf ur host file |
| 22:12.09 | pron | i am looking for terminal emulator where i can save profiles ( actualy ssh sessions ), get the list of them with shortcut and without using mouse open them in new tab , also if i need i can duplicate the tab and get another connection to same mashine, any suggestions ? |
| 22:12.50 | pron | basicly i am looking for replacement of iterm2 |
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| 22:22.32 | ryouma | Stiffler: are you saying free gpu firmwill will be implemented soon, or that it will be as productive as looking for bigfoot soon? |
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| 22:23.15 | ryouma | (real question) |
| 22:23.24 | Stiffler | ryoma inventing or discovering something is not cup of inta noddle |
| 22:23.27 | imMute | if you mean firmware as in the programmable bits in the GPU itself, lol, no, that'll probably never be opensourced. (I'd love to be proven wrong though) |
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| 22:24.14 | Stiffler | why not? |
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| 22:24.29 | Stiffler | so is anroid doing same thing |
| 22:24.33 | Stiffler | but its open source |
| 22:24.37 | Stiffler | so is linux |
| 22:24.41 | Stiffler | its open soruce |
| 22:24.48 | Stiffler | even OS does same shit |
| 22:24.52 | Mazhive | host file has fqdn |
| 22:24.55 | Stiffler | and most of them are open |
| 22:25.03 | themill | takes away Stiffler's enter key |
| 22:25.03 | Mazhive | so host.domain.com |
| 22:25.48 | imMute | Stiffler: not the firmware inside the GPU. (and I'm not talking about user code that happens to execute on the GPU). it's the same kind of thing as Intel's microcode - it's too valuable to intel/nvidia/ati/whoever to open source it. |
| 22:26.14 | Stiffler | i told their is a possibility |
| 22:26.25 | Stiffler | to some extent |
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| 22:30.09 | kler | h-hello ? ;x |
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| 22:32.53 | brimonk | Can someone help me bind a key from one device to another key? I bought a USB footpedal to use as a push to talk for games, but it's already bound to 'b'. How do I rebind 'b' from only that device. |
| 22:32.57 | brimonk | ? |
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| 23:01.06 | CtrlC | Does anyone know if I can set resolutions for Xvbf? |
| 23:02.12 | CtrlC | found it. |
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| 23:04.57 | dionyziz | Hi guys. I'm trying to change the motd on my debian. I read the message by paravoid here https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/12/msg00368.html the instructions here https://wiki.debian.org/motd and the attempts described here https://nickcharlton.net/posts/debian-ubuntu-dynamic-motd.html as well as here https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/246436/how-to-set-a-dynamic-message-of-the-day-motd-in-debian-jessie-8-2-for-ssh and here htt |
| 23:05.09 | dionyziz | I don't think I can make it to change any of the motd. I'm using Debian Jessie - it's a fresh install. |
| 23:05.15 | dionyziz | What is the proper way of doing it? |
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| 23:05.47 | dionyziz | I may have screwed up a couple of files while trying all the above solutions, not sure. But nothing worked. |
| 23:06.31 | dionyziz | I don't want to go into the suggested way of debugging it with strace-ing the sshd, because I have no other way of accessing this machine physically and I don't want to stop sshd. |
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| 23:11.32 | lakitu | hey - i installed cups, configured (added printer) on my raspberry pi via web interface, & it SAYS it's printing, it goes from 0 to 100% on the web interface, but never actually prints |
| 23:11.38 | lakitu | same for test page prints. |
| 23:12.04 | lakitu | any ideas how i can get the printer - recognized, added, showing printing - actually printing? |
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| 23:14.23 | Texou | lakitu: depends on model and driver |
| 23:15.23 | teraflops | dionyziz: what I have is http://ix.io/1EGi in my /etc/pam.d/sshd and http://ix.io/1EGj inside /etc/update-motd.d |
| 23:17.22 | lakitu | i think i have a Canon Pixma 2702, with gutenprint |
| 23:17.26 | lakitu | drivers |
| 23:17.50 | dionyziz | teraflops: I have the same. |
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| 23:17.56 | Texou | lakitu: supported on Linux without additional firmware? |
| 23:17.59 | dionyziz | teraflops: For what it's worth, the motd displays fine when I use `login`. |
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| 23:18.52 | lakitu | i didn't use the disc, if that's what you mean Texou |
| 23:19.15 | lakitu | maybe i don't understand. |
| 23:19.38 | Texou | lakitu: have you looked at openprintings.org to know how this printer is supported? |
| 23:20.07 | lakitu | i can check - it worked in my other debian, & debian downstreams, like ubuntu. using gutenprint |
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| 23:20.15 | lakitu | it is recognized, adds, shows printing |
| 23:20.23 | teraflops | dionyziz: it works here through ssh, it's headless |
| 23:20.25 | lakitu | so... i'll check there here |
| 23:20.32 | lakitu | at openprintings |
| 23:20.48 | Texou | yes |
| 23:20.53 | Texou | the reference database |
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| 23:21.45 | dionyziz | teraflops: Do you have a /run/motd.dynamic file? Because I don't. |
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| 23:22.48 | lakitu | Texou: "Color printer, works Perfectly" |
| 23:22.54 | lakitu | Canon IP2700 series |
| 23:23.33 | Texou | lakitu: ok, what driver? |
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| 23:23.53 | lakitu | is it gutenprint? cups? i have both |
| 23:24.04 | lakitu | just using as a user, not system admin or netadmin etc |
| 23:24.21 | lakitu | err not a network admin |
| 23:24.25 | Texou | lakitu: the website recommends Gut drivers? |
| 23:24.31 | teraflops | dionyziz: nope I have lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 oct 26 14:07 /etc/motd -> /var/run/motd |
| 23:24.59 | dionyziz | teraflops: ok same here |
| 23:25.32 | teraflops | dionyziz: what about /etc/pam.d/sshd file? |
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| 23:25.50 | teraflops | dionyziz: I share mine if you want |
| 23:25.50 | lakitu | i don't see where it says Texou =/ |
| 23:26.07 | lakitu | says, Texou* |
| 23:26.13 | Texou | lakitu: hmmm mainly a link enables to have details about how a model is supported |
| 23:26.14 | lakitu | i checked printers & drivers on that site |
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| 23:27.24 | dionyziz | teraflops: here it is: https://gist.github.com/dionyziz/c14714fafa8a760a6467685798862ea5 |
| 23:27.36 | dionyziz | teraflops: the pam motd-related instructions are the same as yours I think |
| 23:27.56 | Texou | lakitu: also, try lp command to see if errors appear |
| 23:28.08 | lakitu | ok |
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| 23:31.21 | dionyziz | teraflops: What settings do you have at /etc/ssh/sshd_config for the PrintMotd and PrintLastLog directives? |
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| 23:40.37 | teraflops | dionyziz: PrintMotd no and PrintLastLog yes |
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| 23:44.02 | dionyziz | teraflops: I have the same. I'm not sure how to debug this. Do you have any ideas? |
| 23:44.23 | teraflops | dionyziz: nope :S |
| 23:44.27 | teraflops | heh sorry |
| 23:45.45 | teraflops | dionyziz: what do you show there? |
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| 23:47.49 | dionyziz | teraflops: When I ssh I see "Last login: Sun Nov 13 23:45:14 2016 from cpc102378-sgyl38-2-0-cust234.18-2.cable.virginm.net" |
| 23:48.02 | dionyziz | teraflops: When I use `login`, I see the desired motd, which is longer. |
| 23:48.14 | teraflops | dionyziz: I mean, the contents of /etc/update-motd.d/* |
| 23:48.59 | dionyziz | teraflops: there are four files in there called 00-header, 10-sysinfo, 20-updates, 90-footer |
| 23:49.02 | dionyziz | they are all executable |
| 23:49.29 | teraflops | yeah the contents |
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| 23:51.23 | dionyziz | teraflops: https://gist.github.com/dionyziz/0cdadaf81a331bc558692e32b00ab0f2 |
| 23:51.24 | dionyziz | https://gist.github.com/dionyziz/85627df5476d14b2f627ce1f7426e3af |
| 23:51.26 | dionyziz | https://gist.github.com/dionyziz/56914d4aca23fbbcd8526912987cfc33 |
| 23:51.29 | dionyziz | https://gist.github.com/dionyziz/0b16cfa6c2e406e846b6d1231f084706 |
| 23:51.52 | dionyziz | teraflops: for what it's worth, /etc/motd contains the correctly generated motd |
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| 23:53.07 | teraflops | hmm |
| 23:54.01 | themill | dionyziz: do you have "UsePAM yes" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config? |
| 23:54.15 | teraflops | yeah at the bottom |
| 23:55.11 | themill | motd handling changes every release... nfc what we're doing this time. |
| 23:55.15 | themill | !motd |
| 23:55.15 | dpkg | The "Message Of The Day" (MOTD) may be shown to users at login time. In Debian 8 "Jessie", motd is entirely under the control of the administrator; edit /etc/motd as desired. For login(1), pam will prepend uname; customise that in /etc/pam.d/login. For ssh, /run/motd.dynamic is used with sysvinit and nothing is used with systemd; customise that in /etc/init.d/motd. See "man 5 motd" http://deb.li/3WLLd |
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| 23:56.52 | dionyziz | teraflops: are you using jessie also? |
| 23:57.04 | teraflops | yep |
| 23:57.11 | dionyziz | themill: Yes, UsePAM yes is at the bottom of sshd_Config |
| 23:57.22 | themill | the link from dpkg above is quite informative |
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| 23:59.01 | dionyziz | themill: I read that before I came here as I wrote in my original question, but allow me to read it one more time. |
| 23:59.41 | teraflops | dionyziz: here, 10-header â http://ix.io/1EGX 30-sysinfo â http://ix.io/1EGV and 40-updates â http://ix.io/1EGW |
