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| 00:08.39 | fodinabor | when I try to create a rule I get: Failed to add the firewall rule to the Input chain. |
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| 01:56.05 | breakaway | Instalé debian en |
| 01:56.05 | breakaway | Inglés ¿Cómo cambio al español? |
| 01:56.10 | missmbob | !es |
| 01:56.10 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la lÃnea de chat. |
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| 02:34.56 | NightMonkey | Howdy. I seem to have a corrupted /var/lib/pkgs/diversions file. Is there a mechanism to regenerate it? |
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| 03:08.45 | sudosudosudo | Anyone know how I can move from gnome 3 to the debian default desktop environment |
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| 03:09.00 | missmbob | gnome 3 is default |
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| 03:09.48 | sudosudosudo | missmbob: for debian 8.6 stable? |
| 03:09.52 | missmbob | yes |
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| 03:21.35 | Neobenedict | hi guys |
| 03:21.49 | Neobenedict | anyone know good software for setting up a managed dc hub (ie invite only) |
| 03:21.58 | Neobenedict | with accounts |
| 03:22.56 | squarecircle | hello, how do I bind the virtualbox rdp server to a single ip? |
| 03:23.01 | squarecircle | I just threw an nmap on my vm host and realized, that virtualbox offers the vms rdp on every interface/ip |
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| 03:46.18 | squarecircle | o/ |
| 03:48.01 | Lostfile | \o |
| 03:48.28 | Lostfile | \o/ |
| 03:48.45 | Lostfile | \o\ |
| 03:48.53 | Lostfile | o |
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| 04:40.52 | kang0 | Who can offer me laptop |
| 04:41.04 | kang0 | and (work) |
| 04:42.31 | jak2000 | kang0 you know about bind? |
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| 04:42.41 | kang0 | Never heard |
| 04:42.45 | kang0 | What's It |
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| 04:43.16 | kang0 | jak2000 |
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| 04:43.23 | jak2000 | thx |
| 04:43.40 | kang0 | Dns |
| 04:43.45 | jak2000 | yes |
| 04:43.46 | kang0 | Google said |
| 04:43.53 | kang0 | Not me |
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| 04:44.12 | kang0 | Is it like dyndns |
| 04:44.27 | sorin-mihai | can anyone that has a luks encrypted root on lvm pastebin the grub config? |
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| 04:50.20 | jak2000 | kang0 acept a pm? |
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| 04:52.02 | jak2000 | see line 133: http://pastebin.com/2eR0yh9C |
| 04:52.10 | jak2000 | how to remove this ip? its a old old |
| 04:52.13 | jak2000 | dns |
| 04:53.08 | ZeroBeholder | jak2000: I had to edit my /etc/ports or /etc/apache2/ports once -- some ports file was all jacked up. It is probably not the solution you need-- but it is a place to look for shenanigans. |
| 04:53.10 | kang0 | Don't ask me about pm never ask please |
| 04:53.12 | kang0 | Just pm anytime |
| 04:53.24 | kang0 | I am not your boss |
| 04:53.36 | kang0 | Nor any special person |
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| 04:56.54 | ZeroBeholder | kang0: Yes, you are. And I complain to the guys about your extreme 'hands off' managerial style. You're likely to never win a Dundie ( http://theoffice.wikia.com/wiki/Dundie ) that way. |
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| 05:04.26 | jak2000 | ZeroBeholder i havent these files/directories |
| 05:04.26 | jak2000 | :( |
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| 05:08.14 | unborn | is there any way to enable numlock on gnome login screen in debian? |
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| 05:10.25 | missmbob | unborn: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Activating_Numlock_on_Bootup#GDM |
| 05:10.53 | unborn | missmbob: thank you! |
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| 05:42.12 | ZeroBeholder | jak2000: /etc/apache2/ports.conf -- my particular issue was that it only was doing it's higher level listening on IPV6... |
| 05:43.07 | GabeTheDog | I need help recovering a deleted, possibly overwritten file. I'd like to recover as much as possible, if possible |
| 05:43.34 | ZeroBeholder | Don't turn off the system, unmount it. |
| 05:44.00 | ZeroBeholder | Then copy it. Then use tools. |
| 05:44.16 | Rusty1_ | google extundelete |
| 05:44.47 | GabeTheDog | couldnt unmount, it was my home directory in the root filesystem. i shut it down and am currently on a live medium. ive tried debugfs then lsdel and such |
| 05:44.57 | ZeroBeholder | It's been a while, can I get a second opinion for Gabe... |
| 05:46.08 | GabeTheDog | background: i had a raspbian image file backup "raspbian-backup.img". i was trying to use openssl to hash the file (instead of sha1sum), got the syntax wrong, and started outputting to the raspbain image |
| 05:47.15 | ZeroBeholder | There was this recovery CD that used to 'recover' files that were contiguous blocks and then I think a better one came out that would also pick up fragments so the files could be scattered on the disk. |
| 05:48.01 | GabeTheDog | openssl dgst -sha1 -r -out raspbian-backup.img (i thought i had everything in its place, but realized too late that the program was getting data from nowehere and outputting to the img location. a ran ls afterward to check damage, rasp was a 0 byte file |
| 05:48.50 | GabeTheDog | debugfs, lsdel said no deleted innodes, and im currently running "grep -a -A800 -B800 'rasbian-back' /dev/sda5 | strings > recovered_file" |
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| 05:50.55 | ZeroBeholder | PhotoRec and I believe it would recover more than just photos. |
| 05:51.29 | ZeroBeholder | Well, the bootable CD would have photo rec on it. |
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| 05:53.36 | GabeTheDog | now running photorec |
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| 05:57.01 | ZeroBeholder | GabeTheDog: Trinity Rescue Disk looks like it also has file recovery tools on it. |
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| 05:57.22 | GabeTheDog | do you think the file is deleted? or overwritten? |
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| 06:00.23 | ZeroBeholder | There is a good chance with the command you ran that it did. -out is usually a 'writing' switch. But, you have the somewhat rare opportunity to prove DoD wipes are worthwhile... |
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| 06:01.14 | GabeTheDog | prove DoD wipes are worthwhile..." |
| 06:01.33 | GabeTheDog | *"prove DoD wipes are worthwhile..." please elaborate? |
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| 06:05.48 | ZeroBeholder | Dod wipes are several passes of overwriting-- it looks like you may have only completed one or a partial pass. If you recover data-- then maybe those multiple passes of the disk head mangling the bits is necessary. |
| 06:06.25 | GabeTheDog | i wasnt trying to wipe data |
| 06:06.43 | GabeTheDog | that command is to run a hash function and output the data to file |
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| 06:07.07 | GabeTheDog | stupid me put the file i wanted to hash where the log file name should have been |
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| 06:07.50 | GabeTheDog | so the program did as it thought i wanted. started grabbing input from stdin, hashing it, and logging to the filename |
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| 06:50.50 | Stiffler | polaris is horriable IRC client |
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| 06:52.51 | ZeroBeholder | I'll take your word for it. Chatzilla Firefox plugin just got a snazzy looking update... I like it. Autologs me in, I like the way it looks. I'm old, it is too late for me. --Save yourselves! |
| 06:53.03 | missmbob | it's polari. and the guy from the movie is stifler :P |
| 06:55.08 | Stiffler | :) |
| 06:55.17 | Stiffler | i hate that client >.< |
| 06:55.30 | missmbob | i do too. it needs to be taken out and shot |
| 06:55.38 | ZeroBeholder | missmbob: thanks for the numlock tip I had forgotten to fix for over a year. |
| 06:55.40 | Stiffler | exactly |
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| 06:56.09 | Stiffler | hey pls give me some tip how to get my numlock automatically on when i log in .. i had forgotten |
| 06:56.39 | ZeroBeholder | Might be fixed now. We'll see next time I boot up. |
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| 06:56.50 | Stiffler | how to fix it? |
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| 06:57.10 | Stiffler | numlock during boot as for now i have to manually set it on |
| 06:57.16 | ZeroBeholder | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Activating_Numlock_on_Bootup#GDM |
| 06:57.22 | missmbob | ZeroBeholder: heh, nice |
| 06:57.55 | ZeroBeholder | Yeah, mine was set to off since I reloaded and wasn't in the BIOS like I was used to seeing. |
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| 06:58.55 | ZeroBeholder | Nice to know there's a software way to deal with it. |
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| 06:59.10 | nerftrailparkher | he;llo |
| 06:59.14 | nerftrailparkher | whats good |
| 06:59.43 | nerftrailparkher | ANYONE THERE |
| 07:00.03 | awal1 | nerftrailparkher, do you have any debian related question? |
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| 07:00.36 | nerftrailparkher | debian vs ubuntu or no |
| 07:00.47 | Stiffler | debian = father of ubuntu |
| 07:00.52 | nerftrailparkher | lol |
| 07:00.53 | Toordog | is there really a vs? |
| 07:01.00 | Stiffler | ubuntu = unwanted son of debian |
| 07:01.04 | nerftrailparkher | is it hype |
| 07:01.13 | Stiffler | and worst kind with lots of desieases |
| 07:01.15 | Toordog | it's like saying banana vs banana |
| 07:01.17 | nerftrailparkher | what distro do you run |
| 07:01.21 | Stiffler | no no |
| 07:01.33 | nerftrailparkher | or is it GET ME BACK TO WINDOWS!! |
| 07:01.33 | Stiffler | its like saying normal man to a retarded counterpart |
| 07:01.39 | awal1 | nerftrailparkher, this channel is for provide support for debian users. off topic stuff ---» #debian-offtopic |
| 07:01.51 | Stiffler | i run simply debian/mint/cent/ |
| 07:02.00 | nerftrailparkher | ok |
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| 07:02.19 | Stiffler | hate fedora |
| 07:02.21 | nerftrailparkher | i have something up like antiX |
| 07:02.22 | Toordog | nerftrailparkher I run Windows, but I administer any Unix/Linux |
| 07:02.25 | Stiffler | love cent :) |
| 07:02.33 | nerftrailparkher | cool |
| 07:02.42 | nerftrailparkher | Gotta to get a hard drive to get onto windows again |
| 07:02.43 | Stiffler | i run windowsly simply i can run any game lol |
| 07:02.45 | nerftrailparkher | hopefully |
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| 07:02.58 | nerftrailparkher | yea thats what i thought too |
| 07:03.23 | Toordog | come a moment where you need to work in corporate place that are winbase and use their tools to do your report and management works. |
| 07:03.25 | Stiffler | if u dont want to run game stick with linux and distro u like |
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| 07:03.48 | nerftrailparkher | ok |
| 07:03.57 | Stiffler | yes thats true u can port them to linux box either use vm to rum them |
| 07:04.01 | Stiffler | i do that |
| 07:04.13 | nerftrailparkher | I'm running a public beata demo |
| 07:04.16 | nerftrailparkher | beta |
| 07:04.20 | nerftrailparkher | w/e thats for |
| 07:05.00 | Stiffler | but as far as i know most corporate tools are avaiable in linux mostly in rpm formats or uu can make them urself |
| 07:05.02 | nerftrailparkher | debian witAntiX debian with xfce |
| 07:05.24 | nerftrailparkher | wine can still do good |
| 07:05.28 | nerftrailparkher | buggy here and there |
| 07:05.41 | Stiffler | wine can be good to some extent to small software not heavy ones |
| 07:05.48 | nerftrailparkher | support for USB drives is tough though, gotta do research |
| 07:05.50 | Stiffler | i would rather run it on vm than wine |
| 07:05.56 | nerftrailparkher | read up and its gives me headache |
| 07:06.05 | nerftrailparkher | vmware? |
| 07:06.09 | Stiffler | mhm |
| 07:06.12 | Stiffler | or vbox |
| 07:06.17 | Stiffler | or kvm |
| 07:06.27 | nerftrailparkher | do you use liveusb |
| 07:06.32 | Stiffler | ya |
| 07:06.51 | Stiffler | liveusb as destros? |
| 07:07.02 | nerftrailparkher | yea |
| 07:07.14 | nerftrailparkher | do they report bugs automatically |
| 07:07.14 | Stiffler | yep |
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| 07:07.32 | nerftrailparkher | thinking of joiniing a forum sometime, maybe |
| 07:07.33 | Stiffler | report bugs for wat? |
| 07:07.48 | nerftrailparkher | public beta is good but dont know if it good to test it out somewher |
| 07:07.58 | nerftrailparkher | like with some software like, on screen keyboards |
| 07:08.03 | Stiffler | ah |
| 07:08.06 | nerftrailparkher | ONSCREEN is good still |
| 07:08.10 | Stiffler | yes they does |
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| 07:08.32 | nerftrailparkher | i like mint linux alot |
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| 07:08.38 | nerftrailparkher | its large file to load |
| 07:09.00 | nerftrailparkher | call me copycat |
| 07:09.26 | Stiffler | i used to use mint |
| 07:09.36 | Stiffler | few most ago |
| 07:09.49 | Stiffler | left it i am happy with debian |
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| 07:09.57 | Stiffler | months* |
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| 07:10.21 | Stiffler | but never ever everrrrr use RETADED-UBNTU |
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| 07:11.13 | Stiffler | ubuntu = try hard MACs + WINDOWS |
| 07:11.45 | nerftrailparkher | yea |
| 07:11.58 | nerftrailparkher | its come standard on some things though |
| 07:12.09 | nerftrailparkher | like some USB sticks and schools computers |
| 07:12.11 | nerftrailparkher | what do you think |
| 07:12.40 | Stiffler | still bad horriable |
| 07:12.53 | Stiffler | every linux destro can be installed in live usb |
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| 07:13.06 | nerftrailparkher | was liveusb recent |
| 07:13.10 | Stiffler | still if u want ubuntu then use mint its far better |
| 07:13.43 | Stiffler | not much |
| 07:14.28 | nerftrailparkher | yea |
| 07:14.38 | nerftrailparkher | im going back to it any day |
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| 07:14.56 | nerftrailparkher | someone sayd debian is right though, |
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| 07:15.13 | Stiffler | wish we had very driver compability in games i would stick to linux |
| 07:15.14 | ZeroBeholder | (package management in mint is jacked-- eughhh some of the things they do downstream) |
| 07:15.40 | Stiffler | if u tell packet management in mint is jacked then wat about ubuntu? |
| 07:15.46 | nerftrailparkher | I tried one game and it crashed with some .exe files |
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| 07:16.05 | nerftrailparkher | unless it was corrupt |
| 07:16.05 | Stiffler | their are no packages in mint they borrow it directly from ubuntu and deb repos |
| 07:16.11 | ZeroBeholder | It is the one thing Ubuntu does better than mint besides attract new users. |
| 07:16.19 | nerftrailparkher | heh |
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| 07:17.12 | Stiffler | here how it goes Ubuntu attracts NEW ppls --> later they leave for Mint or other distro -- > Finally they settled with Debian |
| 07:17.18 | ZeroBeholder | Mint doesn't use Ubuntu & Debian repos in stock form. There are a number of packages that are mangled. |
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| 07:17.58 | Stiffler | some core packages and binding into meta packages are mangled but most libs are from stock |
| 07:18.00 | ZeroBeholder | Or, like me, my laptop is kubuntu and most of my servers are debian... |
| 07:18.14 | Stiffler | heh |
| 07:18.36 | Stiffler | my lappy is debian PC is windows for games |
| 07:19.12 | ZeroBeholder | I have too many kids to even think I have time for video games. |
| 07:19.16 | Stiffler | and i use linux in windows production enviroment .. with some troubles but not much |
| 07:19.33 | ZeroBeholder | Maybe some day when they all wipe their own butts... |
| 07:20.33 | Stiffler | if u want automated kids put them in front of WIN machine.. if u want to customise ur KIDS make them sit near linux box ;p |
| 07:22.27 | ZeroBeholder | Nope, they are running xubuntu on my old stuff. Oldest two use it for Rhapsody/Napster music. Oldest does his kindergarten standardized testing prep school assignments online. |
| 07:23.06 | missmbob | !ot |
| 07:23.06 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 08:13.07 | megatog | is http.us.debian.org a bit slow for anyone else? |
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| 08:15.59 | jim | that's awfully hard to quantify since (at least) it depends on so many factors |
| 08:16.01 | WizardGed | megatog: not according to tracert I would imagine if there is degradation it's on the mirror you're being redirected to. |
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| 08:17.09 | jim | how do you measure "a bit slow"? how do you expect listeners to? |
| 08:17.32 | missmbob | pick a direct mirror that you know is always fast. for US try debian.osuosl.org |
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| 09:06.08 | frobnicator | hi #debian |
| 09:06.20 | frobnicator | I see there is a package not in stretch anymore. On which page can I find such event |
| 09:06.21 | frobnicator | s* |
| 09:06.43 | frobnicator | is there a changelog or list that shows such changes to be found somewhere |
| 09:07.45 | nkuttler | !why is whatever not in testing |
| 09:07.45 | dpkg | whatever is not in testing for the reasons listed in https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=whatever |
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| 09:08.45 | frobnicator | nkuttler: it's not an issue, I just want to know why. It is in jessie, wheezy and sid |
| 09:09.00 | frobnicator | but I think I found it after a lot of clicks. It has to do with a qt version change |
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| 09:34.13 | Minnebo | Hi guys! |
| 09:34.18 | Minnebo | I installed pi hole on a debian |
| 09:34.30 | Minnebo | but now I don't know how to use the pi hole command |
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| 09:38.14 | Minnebo | nevermind |
| 09:38.14 | Minnebo | i'm retard |
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| 09:45.06 | exaways | While trying to install debian on my macbook I got the message that partitions were written but unable to inform kernel about the changes. |
| 09:45.07 | exaways | Can someone point me in the right direction here? |
| 09:48.25 | dutchfish | exaways, since i have no way of testing it, i don know if that will work. But i hope it gets you into the right direction: https://wiki.debian.org/MacBook#Installing_rEFInd |
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| 09:51.13 | dutchfish | exaways1, |
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| 09:52.02 | dutchfish | exaways, read the chapters before that point also, about how to create partitions and use them for the debian install. |
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| 10:00.53 | exaways1 | dutchfish, thank you. most of the steps I did follow. |
| 10:01.29 | exaways1 | Here is some more information on what I did: |
| 10:01.40 | exaways1 | http://pastebin.com/VSBBqbZh |
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| 10:05.38 | dutchfish | exaways1, i believe the correct way, is to partionate that drive (at least a / and swap partition) and use those in the installer. This might also be an installer bug. Partioning and writing out the changes is fdisk related which is believe is inside a udeb on the installer. There is a separate channel to ask for this. |
| 10:06.17 | squigz | (running Sid) so I broke my X config, and I'm not entirely sure how |
| 10:06.28 | squigz | I was installing the fglrx from AMD's site |
| 10:06.31 | dutchfish | exaways1, ie #debian-boot |
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| 10:07.22 | dutchfish | exaways1, your steps seams right to me, apropos. |
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| 10:08.18 | dutchfish | exaways1, make sure that the correct driver for the bus is present for the external drive. |
| 10:08.29 | exaways1 | dutchfish, the installer created the partitions including swap but mentioned this error giving my the option to ignore or cancel |
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| 10:09.09 | dutchfish | exaways1, you could try ignore, if the changes were written |
| 10:09.40 | squigz | Okay yeah I've really broken x here. How could I reinstall X along with its config files? |
| 10:09.40 | exaways1 | dutchfish, I did it resulted in the installer to try the whole process again ) |
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| 10:10.29 | dutchfish | exaways1, i suggest you ask in #debian-boot, those guys know the insides of the installer. |
| 10:10.47 | dutchfish | exaways1, it might take some time .... |
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| 10:12.49 | exaways1 | dutchfish, ok thank you. I might ask there later if I can stay long to wait for answer. right now I wanna try things and reboot all the time. ) |
| 10:13.04 | dutchfish | exaways1, np, gl |
| 10:13.19 | exaways1 | thx bye |
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| 10:16.34 | dutchfish | squigz, well, on my sid boxes, i backup each and every time, before a major update cycle. if not, a backup now and a reinstall with a created packagelist is the easiest thing, but only if the sid repositories are in a better shape then it is now. Reinstalling Xorg is a bit of a messy thing: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=111049 |
| 10:16.57 | squigz | Yup, probably gunna have to go with a reinstall lol |
| 10:17.03 | squigz | I'm in a tty, can't even open that link |
| 10:18.20 | squigz | Could someoen provide me with a direct link to the sid netinstall image? :P |
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| 10:31.13 | squigz | I actually have a Jessie image, I'll just switch back to that |
| 10:31.17 | squigz | maybe I'll break things less often |
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| 10:46.35 | exaways | dutchfish, it worked now. probably the only thing to do was to reboot and start the installer again. |
| 10:46.50 | exaways | However another problem came up. |
| 10:47.22 | exaways | Grub could not be installed. I am not entirely unhappy about it for now... |
| 10:48.02 | exaways | So a general question. Is it possible to use mac os/debian dualboot completely without grub only with refind? |
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| 10:48.11 | n4dir | there ain't such a thing as a sid-netinst iso |
| 10:48.44 | n4dir | and sure enough you can open links in tty too (not very comfortable, i agree. gpm or such might help). |
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| 12:10.45 | rocksteady | Hi all. I've trouble with piping paths to GNU parallel containing special chars |
| 12:11.29 | rocksteady | for example the 'ü' in München turns into \¦ so it looks like M\¦nchen |
| 12:11.43 | rocksteady | is there something to consider? |
| 12:12.04 | rocksteady | output from 'find' itself is correct |
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| 12:12.40 | rocksteady | when executing "find . -maxdepth 1 -type d | parallel --dry-run test {}" the special chars are broken |
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| 12:14.37 | babilen | rocksteady: encodings are hard ;) |
| 12:14.43 | n4dir | shit knows if that will help you (i usually rename such files and directories): http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/historic-linux/distributions/redhat-4.1/i386/doc/HTML/ldp/German-HOWTO-5.html |
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| 12:15.10 | rocksteady | sadly renaming is not an option. its required to stay the same |
| 12:15.28 | rocksteady | when using bash for loops oder "find -exec" everything works like a charm |
| 12:15.30 | babilen | And using a non unicode locale is, well, also not really an option |
| 12:15.33 | rocksteady | now i need parallelism :) |
| 12:15.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | parallel doesn't have an option --dry-run |
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| 12:15.47 | rocksteady | it does have this option |
| 12:15.59 | rocksteady | then parallel prints to stdout instead of executing |
| 12:16.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | not the one that is in debian? |
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| 12:16.25 | rocksteady | -dry-run Print the job to run on stdout (standard output)... https://www.gnu.org/software/parallel/man.html |
| 12:16.46 | rocksteady | i installed the package from sid in hopoing this will solve the error |
| 12:16.48 | rocksteady | but nothing changed |
| 12:17.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's not the parallel manpage from jessie |
| 12:17.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah |
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| 12:17.47 | rocksteady | is there a reliable alternative to parallel or another option? |
| 12:17.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | if this is supposed to be stable (i.e.) jessie⦠you're not supposed to mix packages from other distributions into stable |
| 12:18.07 | rocksteady | basically I need to run x instances of tar in parallel, creating separate archives of many folders |
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| 12:18.36 | rocksteady | trying out the sid package was my last approach to solve this by myself |
| 12:18.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't see why your problem should happen at all |
| 12:18.40 | rocksteady | now i'm lost :) |
| 12:18.55 | rocksteady | I don't unterstand this either |
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| 12:19.10 | rocksteady | this works perfectly: find . -maxdepth 1 -type d |
| 12:19.20 | rocksteady | this doesn't: find . -maxdepth 1 -type d | parallel -q --dry-run test {} |
| 12:19.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | what version of debian is this |
| 12:19.46 | rocksteady | latest jessie with only parallel coming from sid |
| 12:19.53 | rocksteady | but the jessie package behaves the same |
| 12:20.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, can you give me a line that works with jessie parallel |
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| 12:20.18 | babilen | CutMeOwnThroat: The problem is that parallel seems to garble up the encofind |
| 12:20.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, I see where I read the line wrong |
| 12:20.24 | babilen | *encoding |
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| 12:20.41 | babilen | And rocksteady tried the version in jessie already .. it behaves identical |
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| 12:20.50 | babilen | That's why I said "encodings are hard" |
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| 12:21.21 | rocksteady | I cannot prohibit the use of special chars |
| 12:21.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | babilen, well, the first problem is, that the -exec and the "+" at the end are missing and I just couldn't see what this is doing |
| 12:21.29 | rocksteady | it's part of their workflow :( |
| 12:21.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | and the | is wrong |
| 12:22.00 | babilen | There is another "parallel" in the "moreutils" package (which is the one CutMeOwnThroat referred to) |
| 12:22.16 | babilen | (and is generally speaking less useful |
| 12:22.17 | babilen | ) |
| 12:22.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, it's a different one |
| 12:22.57 | babilen | But that one seems to cope with umlauts |
| 12:23.58 | babilen | rocksteady: fwiw, both seem to pass the argument correctly to whatever they are calling |
| 12:24.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | the one he was talking about händles "München" fïne |
| 12:24.16 | babilen | rocksteady: Apart from the dry-run -- what's the *actual* problem you are trying to fix? |
| 12:24.27 | rocksteady | if I use "echo" instead of the "--dry-run" parameter, the problem only occurs when escaping the path (because of potential while spaces) |
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| 12:24.44 | rocksteady | find . -maxdepth 1 -type d | parallel echo {} <-- everything is fine |
| 12:24.54 | babilen | Yeah, that's what I referred to |
| 12:25.02 | rocksteady | find . -maxdepth 1 -type d | parallel echo '"{}"' <--- crazy special chars inside the quoting |
| 12:25.26 | babilen | You surely don't want to run "echo" thouch |
| 12:25.29 | babilen | *though |
| 12:25.37 | rocksteady | babilien: basically I need to run x tar xJf in parallel on many folders containing special chars and whitespaces |
| 12:25.50 | babilen | Why don't you use a parallel packer then? |
| 12:25.54 | rocksteady | so I'm trying to pipe the "find" output to parallel and use quoting to deal with whitespaces |
| 12:26.02 | rocksteady | but if I do so, the special chars are broken |
| 12:26.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well |
| 12:26.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can also just use a loop |
| 12:26.21 | rocksteady | because I need separate archives, each for every folder |
| 12:26.25 | rocksteady | not one huge archive |
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| 12:26.46 | rocksteady | Currently I'm using a simple bash loop but it takes ages, one folder at a time |
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| 12:27.22 | rocksteady | sorry, I meant cJf, not xJf |
| 12:27.38 | babilen | rocksteady: Why don't you use something like "tar -c --use-compress-program=pigz ... " ? |
| 12:27.59 | rocksteady | thats what I tried before, but then its the same |
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| 12:28.09 | babilen | (or pixz/pbzip2/...) |
| 12:28.10 | rocksteady | one huge archive containing all my target folders |
| 12:28.25 | rocksteady | For flexibility, I want to create separate small archives in parallel |
| 12:28.36 | babilen | Okay, and that errors? |
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| 12:28.50 | babilen | I simply wanted to help you solve the *actual* problem |
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| 12:29.08 | rocksteady | As described above, parallel 'destroys' my special chars when I put the path names in quotes |
| 12:29.20 | babilen | The "--dry-run" is a symptom and might be due to the same underlying problem, but it is not the actual problem |
| 12:29.28 | rocksteady | If I don't quote the paths, the umlauts are okay but then the whitespaces are not escaped |
| 12:29.32 | babilen | And then tar can't find them anymore? |
| 12:29.39 | rocksteady | correct |
| 12:29.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | like for file in * ; do if [ -d "$file" ] ; then tar -cf "$file.tgz" "$file/"; fi; done |
| 12:29.51 | babilen | And parallel from moreutils behave identical? |
| 12:30.07 | rocksteady | CutMeOwnThroat: thats what my current approach looks like |
| 12:30.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's serial⦠would need to replace one ; with a & |
| 12:30.12 | rocksteady | it's working, but it's slow |
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| 12:30.33 | rocksteady | but when I use & to background, I'll end up with thousands of parallel tar running |
| 12:30.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | but that does *all* of them in parallel⦠which is probably not ideal |
| 12:30.38 | rocksteady | thats not what I want |
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| 12:31.03 | n4dir | why you wanna put it to the background? |
| 12:31.25 | n4dir | remote host? |
| 12:31.32 | rocksteady | I don't want to, but CutMeOwnThroat just suggested that |
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| 12:31.44 | rocksteady | I've stumbled upon that solution too, but it won't fit my needs |
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| 12:32.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, and I still don't see what your problem with parallel is |
| 12:32.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | find . -maxdepth 1 -type d | parallel -q echo '{}' is also fine |
| 12:32.44 | rocksteady | Maybe I've explained it poorly, let me try again |
| 12:32.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | yours with the double-quoting is nonsense, because it tries to open a filename containing the "" |
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| 12:33.19 | rocksteady | Okay, but lets assume I have a folder with the name "b c" |
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| 12:33.29 | rocksteady | find will output ./b c |
| 12:33.39 | rocksteady | when parallel echoes that, its again ./b c |
| 12:33.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://paste.debian.net/896740/ |
| 12:33.55 | rocksteady | but would tar search for the folder ./b instead of "./b c"? |
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| 12:34.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://paste.debian.net/896741/ |
| 12:34.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | where is the problem |
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| 12:34.46 | babilen | CutMeOwnThroat: Is the gnu or moreutils? |
| 12:34.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | gnu one, I installed it |
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| 12:35.05 | rocksteady | CutMeOwnThroat: It seems to work, but why? :) |
| 12:35.14 | babilen | rocksteady: Could you *please* show an actual example? |
| 12:35.27 | rocksteady | as I understand, tar will get something like: tar cJf blah.tar.xz ./b c |
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| 12:36.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes, please show an actual example with the output of failing of what doesn't work in a pastebin, as would have been best to do 15 minutes ago |
| 12:36.14 | petemc | xargs can do parallel stuff too |
| 12:36.15 | babilen | God, GNU parallel is obnoxious with its bibtext notice |
| 12:36.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | babilen, what? |
| 12:36.42 | babilen | petemc: We are still at the "What is the problem" stage |
| 12:36.51 | petemc | i see |
| 12:37.14 | rocksteady | CutMeOwnThroat: Obviously I was wrong with my assumption that I have to quote the path when running tar on paths with spaces in them |
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| 12:37.38 | babilen | CutMeOwnThroat: http://paste.debian.net/896742/ |
| 12:37.56 | babilen | rocksteady: So, what is the problem? |
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| 12:38.34 | rocksteady | Just for my understanding: When I run this: find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d | parallel tar cJf '{/}.tar.xz' '{}' |
| 12:38.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | rocksteady, you are always quoting things for the shell, never for the programs⦠you should read a bit on shell expansion (e.g. man bash) |
| 12:39.07 | babilen | gives up |
| 12:39.08 | rocksteady | Will the resulting command look like this? tar cJf 'b c.tar.xz' './b c' |
| 12:39.16 | rocksteady | or like this: Will the resulting command look like this? tar cJf b c.tar.xz ./b c |
| 12:39.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | why don't you try it with echo⦠and it's neither of those |
| 12:39.43 | rocksteady | Okay, so this was a general mistake of mine |
| 12:39.52 | rocksteady | echo does not output " and ' |
| 12:40.01 | rocksteady | so I tried printf and in the end dry-run |
| 12:40.04 | babilen | It doesn't construct "commands" that are then run with the shell |
| 12:40.11 | rocksteady | I'll just take it as it is and use single ' for escaping |
| 12:40.23 | babilen | rocksteady: So you have never tried your command? |
| 12:40.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | because {/} doesn't expand to anything? |
| 12:40.41 | rocksteady | Sure, I've tried many different approaches |
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| 12:40.53 | rocksteady | really weird ones as '\"{}\"' |
| 12:41.05 | rocksteady | it got so complicated in the end I thought of asking here |
| 12:41.06 | babilen | So .. I'm sure that one of those approaches yielded some output and an error, surely? |
| 12:41.24 | babilen | (preferrably the first approach) |
| 12:41.27 | rocksteady | Yes, tar said it cannot find the source folder as it contained spaces |
| 12:41.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | babilen, I don't get that message on jessie |
| 12:41.33 | themill | .o0(find should be used with -print0; parallel has -0) |
| 12:41.36 | babilen | CutMeOwnThroat: Must be a new "feature" |
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| 12:42.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | babilen, echo 1 2 3 | parallels xscreensaver |
| 12:42.15 | babilen | rocksteady: So .. is it so hard to show that? |
| 12:42.58 | rocksteady | babilen: It seems to behave completely different with echo, printf --dry-run and the actual tar |
| 12:43.08 | rocksteady | So I expected a problem where there isn't any |
| 12:44.18 | babilen | Well, note the two options themill just mentioned, but it would still be wonderful if you could paste an actual example |
| 12:44.46 | themill | rocksteady: pastebin or it didn't happen... |
| 12:45.31 | rocksteady | Atm I'm unable to reproduce the error of yesterafternoon |
| 12:45.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, I think we're through, anyway |
| 12:45.59 | rocksteady | Yes, thank you all |
| 12:46.11 | rocksteady | I'll try to continue with parallel |
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| 12:46.45 | Dreaman | Firmware repo debian |
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| 12:47.46 | Dreaman | !Firmware |
| 12:47.47 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
| 12:48.34 | babilen | Dreaman: Are you looking for something specific? |
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| 12:48.51 | Dreaman | my wifi old hp laptop |
| 12:49.16 | Dreaman | but is installing 20 min i see |
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| 13:01.28 | rocksteady | Just FYI: this one works perfectly with whitespaces and preserving special chars: |
| 13:01.35 | happy_hacker | thanks Dreaman, was wondering about getting firmware for my Intel 7260 |
| 13:01.38 | rocksteady | target="/path/to/target"; find /path/to/source -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d | parallel -j 5 tar -cJf "$target/{/}.tar.xz" -C '{//}' '{/}' |
| 13:01.41 | rocksteady | Thank you all again |
| 13:03.19 | dvs | !tell happy_hacker about firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 13:04.00 | dvs | ,v firmware-iwlwifi |
| 13:04.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | \o/ |
| 13:04.01 | judd | Package: firmware-iwlwifi on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 20160824-1~bpo8+1; sid/non-free: 20160824-1; stretch/non-free: 20160824-1 |
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| 13:06.41 | happy_hacker | ,v firmware-ibt-hw |
| 13:06.42 | judd | No package named 'firmware-ibt-hw' was found in amd64. |
| 13:07.03 | happy_hacker | ,v firmware-intel/ibt-hw |
| 13:07.04 | judd | No package named 'firmware-intel/ibt-hw' was found in amd64. |
| 13:07.37 | happy_hacker | looking for: Nov 11 22:08:46 localhost kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: Intel Bluetooth firmware file: intel/ibt-hw-37.7.10-fw-1.80.2.3.d.bseq |
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| 13:07.54 | abrotman | happy_hacker: did you install the firmware-iwlwifi package yet? |
| 13:08.08 | TomTomTosch | happy_hacker: that's part of iwlwifi. |
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| 13:08.42 | happy_hacker | abrotman, TomTomTosch thanks ... editing vim.tiny /etc/apt/sources.list atm |
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| 13:20.24 | happy_hacker | haven't used Debian since 2003 (for 3 months) -- trying to find info https://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals |
| 13:20.45 | happy_hacker | running sid |
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| 13:25.48 | hexnewbie | happy_hacker: Not related to your firmware issues, but starting off with sid is not generally a good idea, there's a reason it's called âunstableâ and âSidâ. It will break. Testing would be preferable, and stable (with or without some backported packages if you need them) would save you even more trouble in the future. |
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| 13:27.27 | happy_hacker | hexnewbie: thanks, I presently work on another Linux distro |
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| 13:27.46 | happy_hacker | just need to learn The Debian Way :D |
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| 13:29.34 | happy_hacker | actually running a debian-sources-4.8.7 kernel on the other SSD in this laptop |
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| 13:32.56 | frlttrwrd | I just replaced a broken mainboard. now my new onboard ethernet device is called eth1 instead of eth0. can I get it to be eth0? |
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| 13:34.43 | abrotman | frlttrwrd: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 13:34.51 | abrotman | either edit it, or delete it |
| 13:34.56 | frlttrwrd | thank you |
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| 13:49.01 | happy_hacker | abrotman, TomTomTosch: thanks again ... wifi and bt working now |
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| 14:36.29 | excognac | hi is there a way to install debian without installing grub? I'm currently using an archbased distro, debian would just troll its grub. |
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| 14:37.23 | abrotman | you can skip that step in the installer |
| 14:37.26 | petn-randall | excognac: Sure, you can decide not to install grub, then you just have to configure it correctly on your other OS. |
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| 14:40.19 | excognac | abrotman: petn-randall: thanks, forgot there's such step in the debian installer. I'll google the rest for my blooody AMD radeon card and realtek wifi. |
| 14:41.27 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 14:43.45 | Posterdati | I'm running jessie i386 on an old athlon 1200MHz, I installed a nvidia geforce 6200 (NV44A) with nouveau, at boot it tries to launch kdm, but X returns an error: Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file, if I restart kdm from console X works |
| 14:43.53 | Posterdati | thanks |
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| 14:48.04 | petn-randall | excognac: The wifi should work out of the box as long as you install the firmware afterwards. If you need it during installation, pick the firmware installer. |
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| 14:48.54 | petn-randall | excognac: Older radeons should work fine with the libre drivers. It's just the bumblebee thing and brand new cards that I've heard have some trouble. |
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| 14:54.36 | excognac | petn-randall: well this a laptop and has amd radeon gpu and i5 cpu. was a bad idea to buy:9 |
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| 15:00.57 | petn-randall | excognac: It's doable, people got it working before, but it involves some manual step to configure which don't have with other machines. |
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| 15:02.53 | Texou | hi |
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| 15:03.33 | Texou | how do you think I could fix such error while setting bluez package by apt: "bluetoothd[4555]: D-Bus setup failed: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Permission denied" ? I'm on testing just now |
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| 15:08.47 | petn-randall | !debian-next |
| 15:08.47 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 15:09.07 | petn-randall | Texou: See above for testing support ^^^ |
| 15:09.08 | excognac | petn-randall: that's no trouble, I'll google them. unsure if this applies to me thoughhttps://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Debian_8_.22Jessie.22 |
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| 15:10.23 | petn-randall | excognac: Yes, I think that still applies. |
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| 15:40.52 | redrabbit | hi i have an issue connecting to wifi on a fresh cli only install |
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| 15:41.09 | redrabbit | iwconfig is all ok, its connected and auther |
| 15:41.24 | redrabbit | but ifconfig doesnt show ip and route is empty |
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| 15:46.22 | t-p | Hi! I've Jessie on my HP laptop. If I suspend the notebook (closing the lid or using systemctl) when I wake up (pressing a key or opening the lid) on the screen I see the screen freezed on the last pre-suspend view (I can see the clock stuck at the time I suspended). Even ctrl alt interr + B does not work. The last message on syslog is "systemd-sleep[14617]: Suspending system...". Any ideas? |
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| 15:59.14 | redrabbit | i've been looking everywhere |
| 15:59.33 | redrabbit | what is strange is the same config works fine on raspbian |
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| 16:02.11 | redrabbit | tried another wlan adapter same problem |
| 16:02.27 | redrabbit | also bitrate in iwconfig is stuck to 1M |
| 16:02.34 | redrabbit | but auth passed successfully |
| 16:02.49 | redrabbit | link quality is 70/70 |
| 16:03.06 | redrabbit | is this because of drivers ? |
| 16:03.31 | redrabbit | my awus036nha ain't recognised, most distro pick it |
| 16:03.38 | redrabbit | my awus036h works though |
| 16:04.08 | redrabbit | ...looks like a driver issue to me. any help would be appreciated |
| 16:04.43 | redrabbit | same cards works fine on raspbian-cli only |
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| 16:06.04 | redrabbit | it also worked for the netinstall.. |
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| 16:10.15 | redrabbit | ok same problem on other wifi network. gets suck at 1Mbps, auth ok but no route / no ip / no connectivity |
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| 16:11.45 | Cueball | Where can I download an iso that will automatically boot on a headless machine and start ssh so I can do a netinstall? I know I can create one but would be nice if there is an already made one I can use as got no way currently of creating one. |
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| 16:16.09 | happy_hacker | what do you mean by "automatically boot on a headless machine"? will that machine boot from USB/CD w/out interaction? |
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| 16:20.12 | n4dir | You probably could boot any Linux live CD which has ssh enabled and install Debian via debootstrap and chroot. |
| 16:20.48 | missmbob | headless being the keyword. you have to make your own with a preseed file that'll configure the network/password/etc for you |
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| 16:22.00 | n4dir | i could swear there is docu about installing to headless. Something like this: |
| 16:22.11 | n4dir | http://debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en |
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| 16:26.12 | redrabbit | how do i add non-free wifi drivers to debian |
| 16:26.19 | redrabbit | i think that is the issue here |
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| 16:27.18 | mtn | redrabbit: is non-free enabled in your sources? |
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| 16:34.04 | RikuKawai | redrabbit: did you run dhclient [adapter name]? |
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| 16:35.15 | RikuKawai | are you running a desktop environment? |
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| 16:42.19 | Cueball | happy_hacker: Yes it will. |
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| 16:42.56 | timegirls | scale. We know Jews were in white countries prior to other non-whites, so Jews brought the non-whites in to harm and damage the only race capable of stopping them (whites). In my view, the slave trade was the start of spreading around the blacks. |
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| 16:48.05 | JyZyXEL | how can i check to which package a certain configuration file belongs to? |
| 16:48.32 | missmbob | dpkg -S file (if it's installed) |
| 16:48.32 | dpkg | Package: file (if it's installed): Status: install ok installed |
| 16:48.53 | missmbob | apt-file search if not. make sure you apt-file update first |
| 16:49.28 | JyZyXEL | dpkg -S was the one i was looking for, thank you |
| 16:49.28 | dpkg | You Fool! was the one i was looking for, thank you is installed! |
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| 16:50.56 | john_s | how do you cancel the installation of packages once you have said yes? |
| 16:51.31 | abrotman | has it started unpacking? |
| 16:51.33 | missmbob | you should probably let it finish. then apt-get remove. if you quit in the middle you'll get broken packages that dpkg might struggle with |
| 16:51.36 | abrotman | or still downloading? |
| 16:51.42 | RikuKawai | I'm not sure if there's an elegant way to do it |
| 16:52.43 | n4dir | i'd also rather let it finish and then remove again. Not saying it isn't possible, i don't know ( abrotman s question seems to indicate it is), only what i would do. |
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| 16:53.04 | missmbob | if it's still downloading ctrl+c wont hurt anything |
| 16:53.40 | redrabbit | RikuKawai: no its gui only |
| 16:53.53 | redrabbit | i did a netinstall and only selected ssh and general utilities |
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| 16:54.45 | john_s | it often just takes too long on my system |
| 16:54.49 | redrabbit | 17:34 < RikuKawai> redrabbit: did you run dhclient [adapter name]? |
| 16:54.55 | redrabbit | seems to have fixed the issue |
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| 16:54.58 | redrabbit | much thanks |
| 16:55.23 | redrabbit | i had no idea i needed this but i knew dhcp wasn't working |
| 16:55.24 | john_s | but usually if I kill it and then dpkg --configure -a and apt-get install -f it will just try to continue with everything. |
| 16:55.36 | redrabbit | it works good on other distribs without this |
| 16:56.12 | n4dir | john_s: i am wondering what "too long" might mean. |
| 16:56.29 | john_s | something might take 20 minutes on this system. |
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| 16:56.49 | redrabbit | but my awus036nha still isn't recognized/ i get "firmware: failed to load htc_9271.fw |
| 16:56.49 | n4dir | now i am wondering what "something" might mean. And 20 minutes doesn't sound that long |
| 16:56.59 | john_s | 20 minutes waiting for something to uninstall? |
| 16:57.03 | john_s | that's very long. |
| 16:57.05 | redrabbit | on usb plug |
| 16:57.18 | n4dir | well: if you don't want that, then read and consider better before you hit "yes" |
| 16:57.24 | missmbob | redrabbit: install firmware-atheros for that |
| 16:57.27 | john_s | i was asking for the way about that my friend. |
| 16:57.32 | redrabbit | thanks missmbob |
| 16:57.45 | john_s | you know I wasn't asking for the travelled road. |
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| 16:58.55 | redrabbit | mhh its not available on default repos |
| 16:59.04 | missmbob | redrabbit: you have to add non-free to your sources.list |
| 16:59.08 | redrabbit | guess i have to add nonfree |
| 16:59.08 | redrabbit | :p |
| 16:59.10 | redrabbit | :D |
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| 17:00.05 | redrabbit | i'm all in for the non-non-free default policy though |
| 17:00.13 | redrabbit | but sometimes its a pita :p |
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| 17:00.39 | missmbob | sudo add-apt-repository non-free isn't that much of a pita |
| 17:00.48 | n4dir | repairing a broken package-management can take way longer than 20 minutes, john_s. But that is really your choice. I only said what i do, and besides you had other answers too. |
| 17:00.59 | redrabbit | nop its fine |
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| 17:01.17 | redrabbit | i did nano /etc/apt/source.list and added non-fre |
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| 17:01.27 | redrabbit | but, same results |
| 17:01.32 | john_s | yes yes but I ask if there is any normal way to do it, not what you or anyone would do. |
| 17:01.57 | john_s | last time I removed wine-development but then it started installing wine because of a dependency |
| 17:02.13 | john_s | I hadn't seen "is going to use 500MB extra" I thought it said "is going to use 500MB less" ;-). |
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| 17:02.22 | missmbob | redrabbit: you should probably also try nmtui for your network config |
| 17:03.08 | john_s | so I wanted to break that off but dpkg and apt kept trying to install wine and I couldn't offer a new command. |
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| 17:03.37 | john_s | miraculously after the next reboot it just undid the wine installation thing and also broke off the wine-development uninstall but that's not something I remember doing. |
| 17:03.47 | redrabbit | what i'm trying to do is a cli only machine that is used to create a wireless AP sharing internet from another AP while passing though a vpn |
| 17:03.54 | redrabbit | so clients are all behind the vpn |
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| 17:03.58 | john_s | I am really just trying to say "cancel that command". |
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| 17:04.31 | redrabbit | id prefer to use wpa_supplicant than network managers though |
| 17:04.46 | redrabbit | that have been the most reliable for me usually |
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| 17:05.57 | blind | Using jessie, I'm unable to install the package 'mono-devel' because there's an unmet dependency for libgdiplus on libjpeg8 which apparently isn't available in jessie.. |
| 17:06.16 | missmbob | !bat |
| 17:06.16 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 17:07.49 | dionysus69 | how do I manage two finer scrolling speed? |
| 17:07.58 | dionysus69 | it is very sensitive and practically unusable |
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| 17:08.51 | blind | http://paste.debian.net/896773/ |
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| 17:09.34 | john_s | abrotman: sorry for not responding sooner. I guess last time it was still downloading. Other times it is already unpacking. |
| 17:09.37 | redrabbit | so i need to connect to VPN from wlan1 then reshare that from wlan2 |
| 17:09.52 | abrotman | blind: apt-get update .. try again |
| 17:10.01 | blind | abrotman: have done many updates |
| 17:10.10 | redrabbit | and still be able to connect to wlan1 lan to send http requests so i stay connected to the hotspot |
| 17:10.23 | missmbob | blind: you have a frankendebian. xamarin. eek |
| 17:10.29 | blind | I do not... |
| 17:10.38 | blind | oh.. |
| 17:10.46 | missmbob | blind: yeah. that's why it's broken |
| 17:10.48 | abrotman | judd: versions libjpeg8 |
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| 17:10.54 | judd | Package: libjpeg8 on amd64 -- wheezy: 8d-1+deb7u1; sid: 8d1-2 |
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| 17:11.00 | abrotman | neat ... |
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| 17:11.23 | blind | My bad, didn't realize mono-devel wasn't debian... |
| 17:11.29 | missmbob | , mono-devel |
| 17:11.32 | missmbob | ,v mono-devel |
| 17:11.33 | judd | Package: mono-devel on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.10.8.1-8+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 2.10.8.1-8+deb7u1; jessie: 3.2.8+dfsg-10; stretch: 4.2.1.102+dfsg2-8; sid: 4.6.1.3+dfsg-8 |
| 17:11.40 | missmbob | it is if you get it from debian not some third party place |
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| 17:12.01 | blind | hrm. |
| 17:12.10 | missmbob | anyway you should go ask the xamarin people for help if that's what you want |
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| 17:12.30 | blind | Nope, just the pointing out that it wasn't you was enough. |
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| 17:12.35 | blind | "you" |
| 17:13.17 | redrabbit | missmbob: why do i have to type dhclient though |
| 17:13.22 | redrabbit | is there a way to automate this |
| 17:13.54 | missmbob | redrabbit: sure you can configure your interfaces file |
| 17:14.03 | redrabbit | i have to drop the machine somewhere i will not be able to access physically it has to take care of connecting by itself |
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| 17:14.10 | missmbob | redrabbit: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line tells you what to put in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:14.19 | redrabbit | you mean /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:14.25 | redrabbit | ok :p |
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| 17:16.27 | redrabbit | i guess problem comes from the fact that i used "iface wlan1 inet manual" and not dhcp |
| 17:16.42 | missmbob | yep, that'd do it |
| 17:17.22 | redrabbit | that's what happen when you only understand half of the stuff |
| 17:17.29 | redrabbit | learm from mistakes though |
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| 17:37.20 | Stable | Hello, I want to add numix-gtk-theme but it is available only in unstable and testing version. I tried adding it manually by unzipping inside /usr/share/themes/ but it won't show up in settings, please help. I am using xfce4. |
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| 17:38.49 | missmbob | Stable: with that particular package you can just grab the one from testing and it wont break stuff. https://packages.debian.org/stretch/all/numix-gtk-theme/download download that and dpkg -i foo.deb |
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| 17:41.15 | missmbob | Stable: and you might have to restart your DE for it to show up |
| 17:43.10 | Stable | missmbob: thank you |
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| 17:54.12 | r0man | hi there, looking for the uk sources.list for some reason mine won't work |
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| 17:55.01 | r0man | using this atm -> https://debgen.xyz/ |
| 17:55.21 | jelly | r0man: which debian release? |
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| 17:55.42 | r0man | jessie |
| 17:55.48 | jelly | !jessie sources.list |
| 17:55.48 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 17:56.20 | r0man | alright i'll try that |
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| 17:56.43 | jelly | deb.debian.org is, I think, supposed to be a geodns setup redirecting you to a close mirror |
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| 17:58.02 | hexnewbie | r0man: It also matters why it doesn't work. Sometimes your nearby mirror is down (happens often to me) |
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| 18:00.37 | usr_ | is this distro comes with pre-installed music player |
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| 18:01.34 | sh00p | usually the music player comes with the gui of your choice |
| 18:01.44 | sh00p | i dont believe mp3 decoder is included since it is not free |
| 18:02.15 | sh00p | i'd just install vlc and use it as primary media player |
| 18:02.43 | zykotick9 | has never had problems playing mp3 files in debian! and he doesn't use any contrib/non-free packages... |
| 18:02.55 | sh00p | hmm i might be mistaken |
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| 18:17.24 | russelsteapot | anyone have any experience doing an upgrade from one release to the next on an encrypted device? im trying to figure out how problematic it would be to do an encrypted install of 8, and then upgrade in place when 9 comes out. im assuming it would not be simple, but i thought id try to get feedback |
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| 18:18.42 | nkuttler | russelsteapot: same as on unencrypted. upgrade, reboot. enter passphrase |
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| 18:19.14 | n4dir | i too wouldn't know why it would be any harder than an unencrypted upgrade |
| 18:19.18 | russelsteapot | and if you do a custom install? |
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| 18:19.35 | n4dir | huh? |
| 18:20.13 | russelsteapot | I wanted to do my own encrypted install, so with a different encryption scheme than what the default debian installer might allow for |
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| 18:20.52 | nkuttler | russelsteapot: as long as the kernel supports your encryption |
| 18:21.22 | russelsteapot | hmm, good to know, thx |
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| 18:22.22 | n4dir | what encryption scheme would be different than the ones getting done by the installer? |
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| 18:37.19 | dob1 | hi, i would like to buy a shuttle ds67u3, it's based on i3-6100 skylake. i read about jessie skylake support, seems that i need to install backport kernel and some firmware packages, right? what i don't get is, can i install jessie directly ? |
| 18:37.42 | dob1 | or the installer will stop/doesn't work? |
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| 18:38.39 | missmbob | dob1: should be fine in text mode |
| 18:38.55 | dob1 | missmbob, text mode is ncurse mode? |
| 18:39.04 | missmbob | yeah |
| 18:39.13 | dob1 | it's ok, i always use this mode |
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| 18:40.02 | dob1 | missmbob, there are other issues about skylake support that you are aware? after upgrading the kernel to the backport one |
| 18:40.37 | missmbob | dob1: you'll probably need new xorg drivers from jessie-backports as well |
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| 18:41.39 | babilen | (if not more) |
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| 18:45.15 | dob1 | babilen, the version on backports is not enough? |
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| 18:45.43 | missmbob | he means more from backports. you might need mesa packages, for example. jessie-backports has those as well |
| 18:46.19 | jim | hi... I think I want to test the testing netinst, and my cpu can do virt (I have fired up a netinst before on this machine), I want to figure out how to give it lvs, or maybe a vg full of lvs |
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| 18:46.50 | dob1 | missmbob, i got it, thanks |
| 18:47.01 | jim | so I'm asking here, because I want to run kvm/qemu on jessie |
| 18:47.51 | jim | for the stuff that has more to do with what's installed, I'll ask on oftc/#debian-next |
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| 18:48.57 | jim | I think the issue has been, I can't see the vg in the netinst run |
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| 20:20.28 | kap | I am running testing right now. I need the latest firefox though. Is this the actually debian mozilla team's site? http://mozilla.debian.net/ I am tempted to just compile it on my own |
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| 20:22.51 | missmbob | kap yes, it is. |
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| 20:23.29 | kap | Thank you missmbob, So everying in debian.net namespace is official? |
| 20:23.34 | missmbob | kap yes |
| 20:23.38 | kap | ah |
| 20:23.44 | geetansh | yes |
| 20:24.05 | kap | I know I sound insane but how can I verify that? |
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| 20:24.12 | kap | im looking around on debian.org |
| 20:24.20 | kap | to find links to debian.net |
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| 20:28.34 | missmbob | kap: https://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel "debian-mozilla site" |
| 20:29.02 | kap | missmbob: you the best |
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| 21:25.11 | missmbob | if you want to keep them just apt-get install all the packages it wants to remove. that'll reset the flag as manually installed (it wont actually reinstall anything) |
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| 21:35.08 | autoremove | missmbob: thank you so much |
| 21:39.00 | petn-randall | It's enough if you just set the relevant packages that way, though. You still might want to autoremove unused libs. |
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| 21:52.26 | Jonz3n | Would anyone recommend investing in a ide ssd drive? |
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| 21:53.15 | Jonz3n | I have an i5 netbook that I use to learn Linux and the drive needs replacing as it is ... |
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| 21:54.12 | nkuttler | sure. ssd all the things |
| 21:56.17 | Jonz3n | Ok so the drive in there now does this thing where it chokes on I/O even simple things like opening a new terminal window then it's good for a while then it does it again... |
| 21:56.57 | pos | Is the bootup-text logged anywhere? |
| 21:57.05 | Jonz3n | That is an indication that the drive (from 2011) is on it way out right? |
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| 21:57.56 | Jonz3n | Yea but I'm on the road right now (not driving) and my netbook is out of juice î |
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| 21:58.58 | Jonz3n | Pos: do you mean systemctl? |
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| 21:59.22 | Jonz3n | Or rather journalctl |
| 21:59.30 | pos | The rolling wall of text as the system boot |
| 21:59.45 | pos | some is found in syslog ofc, but not all |
| 22:00.31 | Jonz3n | The only fail I get during boot is RF load save state but that is common with Acer netbook I have found out |
| 22:01.20 | Jonz3n | Is there a command to pipe that to a txt at boot? |
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| 22:06.07 | n4dir | Jonz3n: back then there was bootlogd, but the debian wiki says for system you will need this: https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/ |
| 22:06.21 | n4dir | s/system/systemd |
| 22:06.46 | Jonz3n | Thanks |
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| 22:14.59 | petn-randall | Jonz3n: 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' will tell you about the health of your drive. You can paste it to http://paste.debian.net, and we can go over it together. |
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| 22:23.08 | Jonz3n | Thanks I will do that as sop as it is charged up |
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| 22:24.02 | centrx | petn-randall: Can you recommend something for a total hardware checkup? (in addition to smartctl and memtest86) ? |
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| 22:36.08 | Jonz3n | I apparently don't have smartctl nor is it available from apt-get google here I come... |
| 22:37.54 | centrx | Jonz3n: I think it's in the smartmontools package |
| 22:38.05 | centrx | Jonz3n: Generally don't just install things off the Internet, use the package |
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| 22:38.49 | Jonz3n | Yup it's installing |
| 22:39.08 | Jonz3n | I googled smartctl |
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| 22:39.40 | Jonz3n | Which lead me to the package, then I check if I have the man then I apt-got it |
| 22:40.12 | Jonz3n | I'm not that much of a noob... |
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| 22:42.20 | Jonz3n_ | I start to problem @the house ð£ |
| 22:43.13 | centrx | You were hacking e-mail before it was invented |
| 22:44.15 | petn-randall | Jonz3n_: Install 'command-not-found', then it'll tell you which package to install if you don't have that command. |
| 22:44.34 | petn-randall | Jonz3n_: If you disk is broken, there's no need to check your RAM. |
| 22:45.01 | petn-randall | Jonz3n: Sure, you can test if you like, but it's not related to your current problem. |
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| 22:57.03 | jonz3n | ok so now i am actualy at my kb |
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| 22:58.01 | jonz3n | so i just installed smartmontools and updat-rc.d fell back to defaults? |
| 22:58.16 | jonz3n | that normal behavior? |
| 22:59.16 | cyphix | About two years ago, I created a jail using jailkit. But for a few times (maybe a day, maybe 2 weeks, not sure), I can't connect to it anymore. I run debian testing. Any idea why it does not work anymore? Is it a known issue? I haven't changed anything linked to my jail since a very long time |
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| 23:08.55 | n4dir | clels |
| 23:09.08 | cyphix | To be a very little more specific, when I try to connect to my jail with ssh, the connection closes immediately after connection, just like there were no login shell. I don't know why it is not recognized anymore |
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| 23:10.22 | jonz3n | are you accessing the jail from a new machine /recent upgrade? |
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| 23:11.59 | jonz3n | cyphix: are you accessing the jail from a new machine /recent upgrade? |
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| 23:15.43 | cyphix | jonz3n: No, it's the same machine as ever |
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| 23:16.14 | cyphix | jonz3n: I'm under testing, so frequent upgrades, yeah |
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| 23:19.46 | awal1 | what means exactly "Image format was not specified for 'Debian-Sid.img' and probing guessed raw." i guet from qemu installing a guest? |
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| 23:20.26 | jonz3n | petn-randall: the link to my smartctl dump http://paste.debian.net/896809 |
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| 23:23.28 | awal1 | qemu is incredibly slow compared to kvm & virtualbox :P |
| 23:25.34 | petn-randall | jonz3n: Current_Pending_Sector and Offline_Uncorrectable are what you should be looking at. You can fix those pending sectors by overwriting the data there. |
| 23:26.08 | petn-randall | jonz3n: There is a tutorial out there to find the affected file via calculating the inode, check that out. |
| 23:27.08 | jonz3n | thanks petn-randall |
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| 23:34.14 | hfp | Hi, how can I check which version of systemd ships with Debian 8? I have run `systemd --version` on my system but I suspect I'm not using a standard Debian 8, and so I might have an outdated systemd out of the box. |
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| 23:35.39 | AimHere | hfp, apt-cache show systemd should give you some sort of version number of the installed .deb package |
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| 23:36.02 | centrx | hfp: packages.debian.org/systemd |
| 23:36.06 | AimHere | system --version will give you the version of the one that's running |
| 23:36.11 | abrotman | judd: versions systemd |
| 23:36.12 | judd | Package: systemd on amd64 -- wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u5; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-17+deb8u5; jessie-backports: 230-7~bpo8+2; sid: 232-3; stretch: 232-3 |
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| 23:38.49 | hfp | I see, do I'd have to use jessie-backports if I wanted a more recent version than 215? |
| 23:39.33 | hfp | or is it a bad idea because they're unstable? |
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| 23:41.27 | abrotman | hfp: yes, you can use backports |
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| 23:45.59 | hfp | thanks abrotman, centrx, AimHere, judd :) |
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