| 00:00.06 | HeXiLeD | i am assuming debian has live cd images than let install from there ? (looking into options) |
| 00:00.59 | somiaj | the live installer sometimes has issues with grub and it is suggested you install via the offical installer |
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| 00:01.15 | somiaj | the actual network console over ssh allows you to install just fine you just have to configure it. |
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| 00:01.50 | somiaj | you can preseed a lot of configuration given in that howto, but it is straight forard enough I expect you can just send that to someone to set it up and give you the ip/pass |
| 00:02.55 | HeXiLeD | i can get the ip. the setup and pass is all the is needed |
| 00:02.57 | somiaj | HeXiLeD: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Remote -- tries to describe this with a YMMV warning |
| 00:03.04 | zykotick9 | HeXiLeD: <sidenote> the Live option does NOT support UEFI booting - if that's a requirement for you |
| 00:03.38 | somiaj | HeXiLeD: but really that first link lists the steps, up to you if you think it is worth preseeding them or getting the person at the remote server to set it up. |
| 00:03.40 | HeXiLeD | no uefi, old bios :) |
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| 00:05.09 | HeXiLeD | what wm comes with debian-live-8.6.0-amd64-standard.iso ? |
| 00:05.16 | HeXiLeD | *box ? |
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| 00:05.20 | HeXiLeD | console ? |
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| 00:06.35 | somiaj | HeXiLeD: none |
| 00:06.43 | somiaj | HeXiLeD: that only includes packages that are standard or higher |
| 00:06.45 | somiaj | !standard |
| 00:06.45 | dpkg | [standard task] a "task" that should be installed on all machines during the installer stage. It installs packages that are important, required and standard (i.e. "aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant"). Packages in the <essential> set are always installed. Also ask me about <tasksel>. |
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| 00:07.54 | somiaj | HeXiLeD: so it won't include much, and you'll have to install an ssh server and configure it to use it. Use the installer over ssh it is going to be your best bet. You just have to figure out how to get it botted and those few steps completed. I linkned you a wiki that cna automate it if needed, but depending on your actuals setup/hardware I would just send someone tha tlink of screenshots and askthem to fo |
| 00:08.00 | somiaj | llow the instructions |
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| 00:16.00 | HeXiLeD | what is the standard live login? |
| 00:16.40 | jercos | user/live |
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| 00:17.14 | HeXiLeD | thanks |
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| 00:18.57 | Resilience | apt-cache show eclipse says "This package provides [...] including source and both user and programmer documentation.", does it mean that in includes source code for eclipse? why? |
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| 00:26.12 | zykotick9 | Resilience: that wording is copied from upstream (debian's) packaging as well... i rather doubt the "source" in included in the regular binary deb so not sure why it says that... but i dunno, maybe? |
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| 00:27.11 | zykotick9 | Resilience: sorry, thought this was #ubuntu... |
| 00:27.22 | Resilience | zykotick9, I doubt it, but I don't quite understand the meaning of that sentence if not for "the soruce code" |
| 00:27.29 | Resilience | zykotick9, is i tnot debuntu? :P |
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| 00:31.42 | HeXiLeD | i am trying the live cds. ssh starts by default but asks me for a public key. |
| 00:32.14 | HeXiLeD | is there a pub key for this ? |
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| 00:36.21 | otyugh_II | hey. I'd like to parse the ouptut of "apt-get" (to make a loading bar), I tried unbuffer, but it seem it doesn't work. Any clue why it's not ? I see people got it working. "unbuffer apt-get install X" |
| 00:37.18 | zykotick9 | otyugh_II: "loading bar" for apt-get... ahh, have you tried "apt"? |
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| 00:38.07 | otyugh_II | zykotick9, it's more about parsing ncurse stuff than apt-get itself, there is also youtube-dl that I'd like to parse for loading bar |
| 00:38.27 | zykotick9 | otyugh_II: ok. well best of luck. |
| 00:38.33 | otyugh_II | And it seem that unbuffer should work. But it's like if it was doing nothing :( |
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| 00:43.22 | JeDa | Hey there, I'm having a problem with my Debian server. I installed SELinux on it then rebooted, now some cron jobs started but not half of them, and neither SSH did run. I did a tail -n 100 of the syslog, it was all this lines flooded: |
| 00:43.25 | JeDa | Dec 9 20:16:44 lucy nscd: 618 Error getting security class for nscd. |
| 00:43.25 | JeDa | Dec 9 20:16:44 lucy nscd: 618 Error translating permission name "gethost" to access vector bit. |
| 00:43.29 | JeDa | What is happening? |
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| 01:02.09 | Richard_Cavell | This might be unnecessary to ask, but: Does Debian fully support the "machine" presented by VirtualBox? |
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| 01:09.06 | friesenpeter | JeDa: Switch to permissive at first and fix your rules: https://wiki.debian.org/SELinux/Setup#Steps_to_setup_SELinux |
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| 01:13.38 | JeDa | friesenpeter: I have default rules, I just installed it even! |
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| 01:17.51 | JeDa | friesenpeter: I can't get to login on it, atm I have it on rescue mode |
| 01:17.51 | JeDa | the OS itself doesn't works, just runs some cronjobs and nothing else, neither SSH |
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| 01:36.08 | beforelight | about to install debian 8 onto a pc with 5 disk drives. Will the installer allow me to choose which drive to install the boot loader on? I have had some distros that blindly write to sda without asking... |
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| 01:36.51 | somiaj | beforelight: yes, use the expert install mode just to be sure |
| 01:36.53 | maddawg2 | it will ask beforelight |
| 01:37.06 | maddawg2 | i just did it and got asked |
| 01:37.14 | beforelight | excellent, thanks |
| 01:37.15 | maddawg2 | tho it takes a while to ask |
| 01:37.21 | somiaj | I know it asks, I just never use the non expert install so unsure what is left out. |
| 01:37.27 | somiaj | It is the very last thing basically |
| 01:37.33 | maddawg2 | yea |
| 01:37.37 | maddawg2 | exactly |
| 01:37.38 | beforelight | expert it is |
| 01:37.45 | maddawg2 | its in basic too |
| 01:37.49 | maddawg2 | not expert |
| 01:37.51 | somiaj | beforelight: you can also skip the install grub part, and use you own bootloader |
| 01:37.54 | maddawg2 | thats how i did it |
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| 01:38.52 | somiaj | beforelight: also uefi or legacy? |
| 01:39.10 | beforelight | somiaj: it will be legacy |
| 01:41.04 | beforelight | I have been using the bios to choose which o/s to boot from they all think they are sda |
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| 01:49.01 | funkster | how to a disable/remove a service from rasp jessie? sudo update-rc.d service remove doesn't seem to work... no error but the service still starts |
| 01:50.45 | somiaj | !raspbian |
| 01:50.45 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 01:51.16 | somiaj | funkster: you should ask the users of raspbian, it might be systemd, there is a system channel and it might be something to do with the service comming up do to a hook as opposed to being configured to boot at start. |
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| 02:10.00 | N3X15 | Trying to use mysqlclient on Debian Jessie. Get "No module named MYSQLdb." http://hastebin.com/raw/ozayadikef Any ideas? I've already reinstalled it twice. |
| 02:10.34 | nurupo | i have accidentally upgraded systemd from the one in jessie to the one in jessie-backports, didn't have priority for backports pinned correctly. any way i can downgrade it back? |
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| 02:11.51 | KARMBIAN | funkster: all scripts in /etc/init.d/ |
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| 02:15.29 | dvs | !downgrade |
| 02:15.29 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 02:17.29 | nurupo | figured it out, just `apt-get install systemd/stable` did the trick |
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| 02:19.14 | somiaj | nurupo: apt-get install package=version works too, you can see version in apt-cache policy |
| 02:19.55 | maddawg2 | lol |
| 02:19.56 | maddawg2 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbNT3S20sxA |
| 02:22.09 | nurupo | so, i'm curious about something. i can pin jessie-backports to a negative priority, that way <pacakge-name> from stable won't be upgraded to its newer version from backports |
| 02:22.19 | somiaj | maddawg2: please don't share links here, use a socal channel such as #debian-offtopic |
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| 02:22.43 | somiaj | nurupo: by default that is how it works. You had to do something to change it. |
| 02:23.24 | nurupo | but what if there is a single package that is present in both jessie and jessie-backports, and i want it to be always upgraded to the latest jessie-backports version, while keeping all other pacakges upgraded only to their jessie versions, not jessie-backports? |
| 02:23.25 | somiaj | nurupo: jessie-backports defaults to having a lower priroity. adding -t jessie-backports to an isntall line increasins the priority to 990 (i think) so you can pull packages in from jessie. |
| 02:23.51 | nurupo | i.e. add an exception to the negative pin, so to say |
| 02:24.03 | nurupo | somiaj: right, but i don't install pacakges mannualy |
| 02:24.08 | somiaj | nurupo: so if you don't have -t jessie-backports on the command line, it shouldn't install/upgrade to backports version (with the execption that you haven't already install it from jessie-backports. If the package is already from backports, it will upgrade to the newe backport. |
| 02:24.12 | nurupo | i use unattended upgrades |
| 02:24.28 | somiaj | nurupo: you should not have to do anything to get this behavior. If you change your pinning you change this behavior. |
| 02:25.13 | somiaj | nurupo: I don't know the exact details on pinning. but by default jessie-backports should be at 100 and jessie is at 500. |
| 02:25.21 | nurupo | i want one pacakge to always be upgraded to the latest jessie-backports |
| 02:25.25 | nurupo | *package |
| 02:25.44 | somiaj | nurupo: once you install that package from jessie backports, It will continued to be upgraded from jessie backports. You do not need to change pinning to get this. |
| 02:25.53 | dvs | nurupo, and that will keep happening if you installed that one package from jessie-backports |
| 02:26.03 | nurupo | hm, okay |
| 02:26.06 | nurupo | even if i give jessie-backports negative pin? |
| 02:26.38 | dvs | nurupo, you shouldn't have to change the pinning on anything. |
| 02:26.44 | somiaj | nurupo: be careful when using the -t jessie-backports option. don't use it in an upgrade. Also if a package is from in jessie and jessie-backports, you should install the jessie one first, then upgrade to the jessie-backports. |
| 02:27.25 | nurupo | yep, you are right, jessie-backports has a lower priority. jessie has a priority of 500 but jessie-backports has a priority of 100. why did unattended-upgrades upgrade my systemd from jessie to the one from jessie-backports then? |
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| 02:27.45 | nurupo | :\ |
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| 02:28.16 | somiaj | nurupo: It shouldn't have. But as I said, be careful when y ou use -t jessie-backports, that command is run with it pinned at 990. |
| 02:28.33 | somiaj | nurupo: it was more likely a side effect of an install you did with a -t jessie-backports line |
| 02:28.53 | somiaj | (though make sure you don't have unattended upgrades to have that flag, I doubt it does) |
| 02:29.11 | dvs | nurupo, if you're running an automated upgrade, you should not have a "-t jessie-backports" option in it. |
| 02:29.41 | nurupo | dvs: i don't unserstand what you say |
| 02:30.11 | dvs | nurupo, are you using the "-t jessie-backports" in you automated upgrade process? |
| 02:30.15 | nurupo | dvs: "-t jessie-backports" is an option to apt-get, not an option to unattended-upgrades |
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| 02:30.46 | nurupo | dvs: you mean in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades ? |
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| 02:31.04 | somiaj | nurupo: we are saying double check how the automation is configured and the actual apt-get command it runs. |
| 02:31.42 | nurupo | i just use the standard unattended-upgrades pacakge |
| 02:31.53 | nurupo | i don't cron my own apt-get commands or anything of that sort |
| 02:32.38 | dvs | nurupo, and you didn't change any configuration files associated with unattended upgrades? |
| 02:32.57 | nurupo | just added jessie-backports to the list of allowed origins |
| 02:33.23 | davascript | using different repos for specific packages can get hairy. I am not the most debian specific help but in other distros you can mask packages or setup priorite of repos |
| 02:33.24 | dvs | and that's the problem |
| 02:33.57 | nurupo | i'm pretty sure if i don't do that, it just doesn't upgrade any pacakges from jessie-backports |
| 02:33.57 | davascript | you will blow up your systems during unattended upgrades |
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| 02:34.14 | dvs | nurupo, you're wrong |
| 02:34.21 | davascript | why do'nt you write a script to upgrade those specific packages |
| 02:36.24 | nurupo | dvs: >A package will be upgraded only if the values in its metadata match all the supplied keywords in a line. |
| 02:36.31 | nurupo | https://gist.github.com/nurupo/8819950ce5eb09d41bd2c8a250518816 |
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| 04:14.07 | Mr_Robot | hello |
| 04:14.19 | Mr_Robot | they are someone |
| 04:14.35 | Mr_Robot | i want to know if my irc run |
| 04:14.55 | bazhang | which ircd Mr_Robot |
| 04:15.22 | Mr_Robot | not irc hexchat sorry |
| 04:15.30 | Mr_Robot | thx for your answer bazhang |
| 04:15.54 | bazhang | #hexchat can answer Mr_Robot |
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| 04:17.15 | davascript | but you arent Mr Robot |
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| 04:17.51 | missmbob | !tell theraspberry about debian-next |
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| 04:18.22 | Mr_Robot | maybe because on my explorer i run from root |
| 04:18.36 | theraspberry | man.. I'm not even in oftc.. |
| 04:18.41 | theraspberry | alright thanks |
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| 04:20.06 | ImUs3r | whatâs wrong? |
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| 04:29.16 | rklopfer | does dbus write a log somewhere? |
| 04:29.20 | rklopfer | i can't find one |
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| 04:31.14 | nurupo | ><dvs> nurupo, you're wrong <-- just tested on an old debian 8 vm with outdated jessie-backports pacakges. if /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades doesn't mention jessie-backports in the allowed origins, no jessie-backports packages get upgraded. if it's included, jessie-backports packages do get upgraded |
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| 06:00.47 | awal1 | How to list (via cli) all available/included gnu & X utilities? |
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| 06:02.57 | missmbob | awal1: first off i have no idea how you quantify "x utilities"...but even if you toss that aside there's no way to list all gnu |
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| 06:33.57 | zykotick9 | awal1: if you actually are looking for a list of gnu packages (not just those in debian) you can see http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/GNU |
| 06:34.34 | awal1 | missmbob: sorry I had to leave after asking. I mean stuff like apropos, who, cal, date...; also linux stuff uname... |
| 06:34.54 | awal1 | i called them utilities, but maybe a lot of them are pps/pkgs |
| 06:35.13 | awal1 | zykotick09: ok, let me check that :) |
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| 06:35.47 | zykotick9 | awal1: <sidenote> you can typically use TAB in IRC to autocomplete nicknames |
| 06:36.16 | awal1 | zykotick9, right; but I always forget :P |
| 06:36.44 | missmbob | awal1: yes there's a list of them (like zykotick9 showed you), but not a cli information of which gnu utils you have |
| 06:37.09 | awal1 | if cal is already there, so I don't need any other gtk/qt app. just an example |
| 06:37.57 | missmbob | i dont know how that makes sense. because there's gnu cal i dont need iceowl? |
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| 06:39.24 | awal1 | well, for yes. cal does all what I need |
| 06:39.28 | awal1 | :P |
| 06:40.25 | awal1 | for me yes ^ |
| 06:40.34 | missmbob | what do you do for mail? mutt isnt gnu |
| 06:41.17 | missmbob | anyway the point is it's not all about you. |
| 06:42.51 | awal1 | I use mutt, yeah. but for many stuff I already have a gnu or whatever cli apps; so no extra pkgs needed |
| 06:43.04 | awal1 | missmbob: I never said all is about me :D |
| 06:43.19 | awal1 | I just asked about what I'm interested in |
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| 06:46.49 | awal1 | zykotick9, interesting link; thanks |
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| 07:49.08 | Resilience | good night, is anybody there asleep? |
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| 07:55.17 | Guest64605 | Hi |
| 07:55.24 | Resilience | here "https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/3biz4i/why_does_eclipse_ide_not_get_updated_in_debian/" is itsa said that "If you compile from source, then installing with checkinstall is a great way to be able to easily uninstall or update the package with apt." what does this mean? |
| 07:55.48 | Guest64605 | No idea dude just new to debian |
| 07:56.07 | Guest64605 | Well |
| 07:56.15 | Resilience | that you can download some tar.gz ball, then make compile, make install and then you can manage it with apt? or what? am I missing something? |
| 07:56.44 | Guest64605 | apt is a packet manager |
| 07:56.58 | Resilience | I know waht's apt |
| 07:57.09 | Guest64605 | after downloading the tar.gz ball |
| 07:57.22 | Resilience | and I thought it was run by packets with expressed lists of dependencies |
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| 07:58.02 | Guest64605 | Thats exactly wht it is |
| 07:58.39 | Guest64605 | It just downloada the packet along with its dependencies from the server |
| 07:59.01 | Resilience | yes, I have just readed it googling it a little bit |
| 07:59.04 | Resilience | it is awesome |
| 07:59.16 | Resilience | you can now install whatever yuo want, and you can uninstall it completely! |
| 07:59.23 | GNU\colossus | Resilience, "checkinstall" is a tool that tries to wrap "make install", and produce a package in .deb format, amongst others |
| 07:59.51 | Guest64605 | Well ask GNU anything hes the boss |
| 08:00.33 | Guest64605 | Sir I also have a question |
| 08:00.59 | Resilience | GNU\colossus, so using chekcinstall means that if I want/need to remove that downloaded software which is not an oficial .deb (maybe nor .deb) then I can uninstall with... apt? dpkg? both? |
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| 08:03.58 | GNU\colossus | Resilience, yes. you'll probably install the result with dpkg, and remove it via apt. |
| 08:04.10 | GNU\colossus | (apt is just a frontend/elaborate interface to dpkg) |
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| 08:05.26 | Resilience | GNU\colossus, yes I know (but I am really too cheap to memorize dkpg switches :P ) |
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| 08:07.41 | GNU\colossus | Resilience, the most important ones to remember are, in my opinion, -i (install), -I (information), -S (search pkg db for a filename, print pkg(s) containing it), and -L (list file contents of a pkg) |
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| 08:08.10 | GNU\colossus | if you remember these, you're well-equipped to answer many questions that arise with package management under Debian |
| 08:08.55 | GNU\colossus | I have a convenience wrapper around Debian's pkgmgmt suite that I usually keep around, you may find it useful: http://coloss.us.to/A |
| 08:10.19 | Resilience | GNU\colossus, Go to check it |
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| 08:17.37 | GNU\colossus | gtg, ttyl |
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| 08:19.30 | no_gravity | Hello! When /boot/ is full of old kernels, should I get rid of them with "apt-get remove" or with "apt-get purge"? |
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| 08:32.30 | no_gravity | Hmm... "apt-get purge" on unused kernels fails because it tries to build a new initrd but there is not enough space left on /boot/. What now? |
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| 08:34.07 | Old_Dog | no_gravity: you can't just delete the unwanted kernels? |
| 08:34.45 | Dreaman | apt-ge autoclean |
| 08:34.53 | Dreaman | apt-ge autoremove |
| 08:35.01 | nkuttler | also, get a bigger /boot |
| 08:35.05 | no_gravity | Old_Dog: like rm stuff? |
| 08:35.09 | Dreaman | apt-get |
| 08:35.31 | Old_Dog | I dunno, just asking/wondering |
| 08:36.05 | Dreaman | Old_Dog open termina and apt-get autoremove |
| 08:36.14 | Dreaman | root |
| 08:36.29 | Dreaman | and autoclean |
| 08:36.44 | no_gravity | I already ran autoremove. |
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| 08:37.06 | nkuttler | no_gravity: try to dpkg -r the kernels |
| 08:37.08 | no_gravity | ran "autoclean" now. It outputted a gazillion lines. |
| 08:37.16 | nkuttler | or just delete the initrds you don't need |
| 08:37.18 | no_gravity | I think I have enough space now. |
| 08:37.20 | Old_Dog | ok it isn't me needing to do this. I don't mess with my kernel |
| 08:37.36 | no_gravity | Old_Dog: Your /boot/ grows forever? |
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| 08:38.33 | Old_Dog | does it? I don't know. Never had a problem with it. |
| 08:38.45 | Dreaman | synaptic seen kernel and delelte ild |
| 08:38.53 | Dreaman | delete |
| 08:38.56 | Dreaman | old |
| 08:39.08 | no_gravity | Old_Dog: du -h /boot/ |
| 08:40.19 | Old_Dog | my /boot has 9 items, with 26.5 GB free space |
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| 08:40.31 | Old_Dog | can't see much of a problem there. |
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| 08:43.13 | no_gravity | Old_Dog: How much space does it use? |
| 08:43.28 | no_gravity | Old_Dog: du -h /boot/ will tell you. |
| 08:43.53 | no_gravity | Old_Dog: 26.5 GB sounds like it's not a dedicated boot partition but rather it takes it space from your root partition or something. |
| 08:44.39 | Dreaman | https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23607228/ Old_Dog see my |
| 08:44.59 | Dreaman | is ubuntu but the same |
| 08:45.30 | Dreaman | in debian |
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| 08:45.59 | no_gravity | Dreaman: So yours is using 161 MB |
| 08:46.03 | Old_Dog | that is true, no_gravity. thereby avoiding any problem of running out of space if that should ever be an issue, which it almost certainly will not be for me. |
| 08:46.10 | Dreaman | 3 kernels |
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| 08:46.20 | Dreaman | and is 17.04 alpha |
| 08:46.23 | Dreaman | ubuntu |
| 08:46.36 | Old_Dog | I have only 2 kernels stored in my /boot directory |
| 08:47.01 | Dreaman | boot par is 500 mb |
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| 08:47.10 | Dreaman | part is not problem for me |
| 08:47.12 | Old_Dog | I never make more than three partitions. swap root and home |
| 08:47.21 | Dreaman | i use |
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| 08:47.35 | Dreaman | swap is 10 gb boot 500 |
| 08:47.43 | Dreaman | ian root 240 |
| 08:47.47 | Dreaman | and |
| 08:49.27 | Dreaman | in my laptop use stretch |
| 08:49.33 | Dreaman | 64 bit |
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| 08:50.30 | Old_Dog | no_gravity: du reports that my /boot directory is using 58M |
| 08:51.21 | Dreaman | one kernel |
| 08:51.24 | no_gravity | Old_Dog: Yup |
| 08:51.50 | Old_Dog | which I don't think would be a problem even if I had made a /boot partition, unless I would have made it pretty small |
| 08:52.23 | no_gravity | Old_Dog: True. It would not be a problem. |
| 08:52.52 | Old_Dog | no_gravity: did you get your problem resolved? |
| 08:53.04 | Old_Dog | hopefully |
| 08:53.08 | no_gravity | Old_Dog: Yup. Removed some old kernels. |
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| 08:53.37 | Old_Dog | great |
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| 11:06.14 | julius | hi |
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| 11:22.51 | Arcaire | Hi. Trying to get a working Debian system here which is apparently beyond my mortal abilities. Had it working after installing stable from an ISO. It broke completely when I updated it to Sid. This happened about a month or two ago and after spending 4-5h trying to fix it I just abandoned the laptop. Trying again now. Nvidia 960M card using binary drivers as |
| 11:22.51 | Arcaire | nouveau is nougo. Skylake CPU. Attempting to just even get GNOME 3 working. Right now it just hangs the system hard when loading gdm3, at "Starting User Manager for UID 117", which is Debian-gdm. |
| 11:23.04 | Arcaire | Wew that's a big blogpost. |
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| 11:30.10 | jasabella | Arcaire... is you're just starting out, sid is probably not the best branch to be on |
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| 11:33.09 | Arcaire | jasabella: I've been using Linux since 2009 or so. |
| 11:33.41 | n4dir | using Linux doesn't matter much, the question is how confident you are with Debian |
| 11:33.53 | n4dir | probably comfortable is a better word |
| 11:33.57 | Arcaire | ~35 servers? |
| 11:33.59 | jasabella | and the dbian way of doing things |
| 11:34.04 | Arcaire | So "relatively". |
| 11:35.01 | jasabella | also, sid is expected to break =) |
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| 11:35.15 | Arcaire | Not like this. |
| 11:35.26 | m_dimarino | sid is the unstable distribution, do not expect stability there. |
| 11:35.28 | n4dir | at least one should be able to use a different gui when using sid. imho of course |
| 11:35.40 | Arcaire | I can't even boot into X. |
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| 11:36.17 | teraflops | so 7 years running debian and you ask such things? |
| 11:36.20 | n4dir | if you consider that a broken system, then Sid is sure no good idea |
| 11:36.21 | Arcaire | No logs indicating anything is wrong either. |
| 11:36.46 | jelly | Arcaire: which branch do you have installed now? |
| 11:36.51 | Arcaire | Christ almighty how about you stop blaming the user for one second and take a look at the problem, or admit you don't want to or can't? |
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| 11:37.10 | Arcaire | "Wow why won't anyone use this awesome operating system," you ask at the same time. |
| 11:37.12 | teraflops | you run side you're on your own for fixing stuff or ask in #debian-next |
| 11:37.18 | teraflops | sid |
| 11:37.30 | Arcaire | jelly: Anything beyond Jessie breaks. |
| 11:37.34 | Arcaire | So stretch up. |
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| 11:38.01 | jelly | Arcaire: okay, do you have stretch or sid repos right now? |
| 11:38.15 | Arcaire | At this second I have sid repos. |
| 11:38.16 | jelly | and which installer image did you start with? |
| 11:38.22 | Arcaire | I started on stable. |
| 11:38.30 | Arcaire | It worked then, amusingly. |
| 11:38.45 | Arcaire | This exact disparity existed about two months ago as well. |
| 11:38.57 | Arcaire | Sid is volatile enough that I'd call bs on anyone claiming it's Sid. |
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| 11:39.02 | jasabella | how are you starting X? |
| 11:39.18 | jasabella | did you install a display manager? |
| 11:39.21 | Arcaire | Gdm is supposed to be doing it, but it's hanging and taking the system out with it. |
| 11:39.24 | Arcaire | Yeah gdm3. |
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| 11:39.55 | Arcaire | I've explicitly disabled wayland in gdm3 etc. |
| 11:40.03 | jelly | Arcaire: can the machine be pinged from a second system on the same LAN when gdm breaks? |
| 11:40.08 | jasabella | X logs? kernel ring buffer? |
| 11:40.13 | Arcaire | No logs. |
| 11:40.21 | Arcaire | It all shows fine, or no logs. :/ |
| 11:40.24 | n4dir | well: try to disable gdm3. does it fail with startx or a different display manager too. If no, you know a bit more bout the problem |
| 11:40.48 | Arcaire | jelly: Networking isn't up at that point. |
| 11:41.03 | n4dir | huh? |
| 11:41.08 | jasabella | whut? |
| 11:41.10 | Arcaire | Either that or "no" is the answer to your q. |
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| 11:41.29 | Arcaire | Sec let me see if I can push logs to sprunge. I'm in rescue atm. |
| 11:42.00 | jelly | then yeah, the only real way forward is to disable the display manager first |
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| 11:42.07 | jasabella | how are you connecting? wifi? |
| 11:42.53 | Arcaire | Yeah. |
| 11:43.04 | Arcaire | sprunge.us/BBFH |
| 11:43.26 | jasabella | does wifi work at all? did you install the firmware packages? wpasupplicant? |
| 11:43.27 | Arcaire | Wait dammit that's my attempt with nouveau |
| 11:43.34 | Arcaire | Yes and yes. |
| 11:43.44 | Arcaire | I mean, in rescue it does. |
| 11:44.14 | Arcaire | https://sprunge.us/gLiN should be it. |
| 11:44.31 | Arcaire | ... minus the tls apparently. |
| 11:44.40 | Arcaire | Retyping on my phone. Force of habit. |
| 11:45.15 | n4dir | EE dev/dri/card0 no such file or directory |
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| 11:46.08 | jasabella | mknod might be your new best friend |
| 11:46.21 | jelly | Arcaire: this looks like jessie, not sid |
| 11:46.30 | jelly | ,v xserver-xorg-core |
| 11:46.32 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-core on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u6; jessie: 2:1.16.4-1; sid: 2:1.19.0-2; stretch: 2:1.19.0-2 |
| 11:46.55 | jasabella | smells like frankendebian |
| 11:46.56 | jelly | kernel and X server versions are jessie |
| 11:47.11 | jasabella | oh wait you're dumping that |
| 11:47.14 | Arcaire | Nah I know why. That's my bad. |
| 11:47.30 | Arcaire | I assumed that file was the previous log dump. It isn't. |
| 11:47.40 | jasabella | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 11:47.41 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; jessie-backports: 4.7+75~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.8+76; sid: 4.8+77 |
| 11:48.08 | Arcaire | I have 4.8. |
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| 11:48.15 | jelly | ,pciid 10de:139a |
| 11:48.19 | judd | [10de:139a] is 'GM107M [GeForce GTX 950M]' from 'NVIDIA Corporation' with kernel modules 'nouveau', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10de:139a and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 11:48.58 | jelly | Arcaire: it's possible things worked in jessie because it completely ignored the nvidia card |
| 11:49.10 | Arcaire | Huh |
| 11:49.17 | Arcaire | Very true. |
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| 11:50.10 | jelly | Arcaire: is it possible to disable either nvidia or intel gpu in BIOS? |
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| 11:50.17 | Arcaire | Unfortunately not. :/ |
| 11:50.35 | jelly | also, is it possible to get actual dmesg and Xorg.0.log of the current state? |
| 11:50.52 | Arcaire | Yeah. About to rm old logs and reboot for fresh. |
| 11:51.30 | Arcaire | Despite the newness of this laptop it treats everything like a leisure walk. No sense of urgency. |
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| 11:56.12 | Arcaire | jelly: Apologies for the delay. http://sprunge.us/bFbL |
| 11:56.40 | Arcaire | So now it doesn't hang (lol wat) but I get a generic "something went wrong". |
| 11:56.45 | Arcaire | Lightdm works fine. |
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| 11:58.03 | jasabella | [ 15.953] (EE) Failed to load module "nouveau" (module does not exist, 0) |
| 11:58.12 | Arcaire | Intentional. |
| 11:58.18 | Arcaire | I don't use it. |
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| 12:01.40 | jelly | Arcaire: what happens if you put nouveau back |
| 12:02.19 | Arcaire | Fireworks emoji. |
| 12:02.51 | Arcaire | The actual error escapes me now but it was to do with flat panel timings. |
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| 12:03.07 | Arcaire | I need the performance anyway for hashcat. |
| 12:03.14 | Arcaire | (CUDA) |
| 12:03.41 | jelly | then use lightdm, eh |
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| 12:04.38 | jelly | I have no idea whether or how nvidia blob + intel is supposed to work, esp. not on stretch+ |
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| 12:05.35 | jelly | buys laptops with intel only to run linux on |
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| 12:07.29 | jelly | so it's hard to say whether glamor there is okay, or is nvidia's own libGL still supposed to be used instead |
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| 12:11.34 | l0llip0p | jelly: Are you sure that u cant disable other gpu via bios? |
| 12:12.09 | l0llip0p | jelly: I had one lenovo laptop that allowed me to choose the gpu |
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| 12:12.13 | jelly | l0llip0p: not me, Arcaire |
| 12:12.24 | jelly | and I already asked that question |
| 12:12.35 | Arcaire | Aye it's a pretty locked out bios |
| 12:13.06 | jelly | investigate hardware better before buying, next time :-| |
| 12:13.25 | l0llip0p | Arcaire, jelly : :/ oh man! sorry 4 lost |
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| 12:17.59 | han-solo | so never buy laptops with intel and nvdia? |
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| 12:21.01 | unborn | han-solo: intel is native supported by linux.. |
| 12:21.23 | han-solo | hmm |
| 12:21.59 | han-solo | so what rabbithole would i jump into, if i bough one with radon too? |
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| 12:22.46 | unborn | what is radon? |
| 12:22.57 | hexnewbie | I'm pretty sure that would be illegal to put in a computer, it's mildly radioactive. And will quickly gas out of the box anyway |
| 12:23.15 | han-solo | meh |
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| 12:24.06 | han-solo | radeon |
| 12:24.51 | unborn | han-solo: radeon != intel |
| 12:25.05 | jelly | no shit, unborn |
| 12:25.24 | unborn | jelly: I have to yet see intel graphics which will not work in linux.. sorry |
| 12:25.36 | hexnewbie | unborn: The PowerVR models don't |
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| 12:26.19 | jelly | han-solo: it depends. recent amd stuff have a working and opensource amdgpu driver. How stable and performant it is, no idea |
| 12:26.36 | han-solo | hmm |
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| 12:27.01 | han-solo | i heard one of my friends had trouble downloading the drivers for radeon |
| 12:27.11 | han-solo | don't know if he got it working |
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| 12:33.31 | teraflops | han-solo: for amdgpu they added support in kernel 4.8 for the amdgpupro they added support in kernel 4.9 |
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| 12:34.02 | jelly | 4.9 is not out yet |
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| 12:34.51 | han-solo | hmm |
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| 12:37.17 | Arcaire | The amdgpupro patch got blocked didn't it? |
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| 12:38.20 | teraflops | I'm talking about upstream sorry my knowledge of debian as desktop machine is un |
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| 12:38.37 | Arcaire | So am I. |
| 12:38.54 | teraflops | ugh nonexistent sorry |
| 12:39.02 | teraflops | yeah |
| 12:39.20 | Arcaire | https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2016-December/126684.html |
| 12:39.52 | teraflops | ah I wasn't aware |
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| 12:41.01 | ImUs3r | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward <â this means that linux will be router? |
| 12:41.33 | teraflops | so I think old amd gpu owners are going to be fucked eventually |
| 12:41.43 | Arcaire | Yeah they are already |
| 12:41.48 | teraflops | hehe |
| 12:41.50 | Arcaire | Catalyst is a mews. |
| 12:41.52 | Arcaire | ... |
| 12:41.54 | Arcaire | Mess * |
| 12:42.01 | teraflops | catalyst is dead |
| 12:42.06 | ImUs3r | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward <â this means that linux will be router? help me |
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| 12:42.24 | teraflops | ImUs3r: yes for ipv4 obviously |
| 12:42.46 | ImUs3r | linux host will be router? teraflops |
| 12:42.49 | ImUs3r | really? |
| 12:42.49 | Arcaire | Yes |
| 12:42.53 | teraflops | ^ |
| 12:42.57 | ImUs3r | oh thanks |
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| 12:43.00 | ImUs3r | :) |
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| 12:43.18 | teraflops | ImUs3r: what are you trying to achieve? |
| 12:43.34 | Arcaire | Catalyst being dead has put some users in a very tight spot already. I have an older HP ProBook that is pretty much out in the cold. |
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| 12:44.00 | ImUs3r | teraflops: i just am studing linux now |
| 12:44.09 | teraflops | catalyst only works with older versions of xorg |
| 12:44.15 | teraflops | ImUs3r: neat |
| 12:44.31 | ImUs3r | but linux machine have only one network interface, then it can be router? |
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| 12:45.05 | teraflops | ImUs3r: yeah imagine a virtual machine inside |
| 12:45.08 | dutchfish | ImUs3r, it could, but if that is wise has to be seen |
| 12:46.00 | dutchfish | ImUs3r, delve into osi layer, vlan, virtualisation or bridging in a virtual envirenment |
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| 12:47.14 | ImUs3r | thanks teraflops and dutchfish |
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| 12:48.46 | teraflops | ImUs3r: touch can even route external packets having only one nic. but as dutchfish said I don't think is a good idea |
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| 13:45.18 | dcg | Hi, I'm hitting a problem installing testing from mini.iso. The kernel version in the installer doesn't match the one in the archives. |
| 13:46.08 | dcg | This seems to be an issue that crops up every so often (there are previous bugs in existence for older versions to support this statement) |
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| 13:46.31 | dcg | Can anyone point me at the correct persons to discuss this with? |
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| 13:50.56 | dutchfish | dcg, maybe #debian-boot at OFTC? |
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| 13:53.20 | dcg | dutchfish: Ok, thanks, I'll drop in over there and yell (quietly, and politely of course) |
| 13:53.33 | dutchfish | dcg, gl |
| 13:53.40 | dcg | I tried joining #debian-next but that's invite only it seems |
| 13:53.57 | dutchfish | dcg, no, #debian-next is on OFTC as well |
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| 13:57.11 | dcg | yep, just realised that ;-) |
| 13:58.34 | dutchfish | dcg, furthermore, the installer from testing is not always in a good shape, using the one from stable and dist-upgrading might be a more viable option. |
| 13:58.47 | dutchfish | (at times) |
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| 14:00.56 | dcg | dutchfish: good point, I've been using debian for close on 15 years and haven't had issues with testing installs (minimal server stuff) in a long long time, so forgot about that. |
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| 14:01.24 | dutchfish | dcg, np. atm it is a bit shaky. |
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| 14:03.07 | dcg | K, I'll grab stable and dist upgrade immediately after install. I specifically need some of the newer libs on this machine, hence installing testing |
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| 14:03.34 | dutchfish | dcg, or use not the minimal, but the netinstall after the weekend |
| 14:03.42 | dutchfish | (testing) |
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| 14:05.02 | dcg | I could, but really *should* get this up and running tonight (western australia here) |
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| 14:05.34 | dutchfish | (testing)dcgkeep an eye on this one https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=debian-kernel@lists.debian.org |
| 14:06.47 | dutchfish | dcg, for now, use the stable one and dist-upgrade, that worked, at least this morning (amd64) |
| 14:06.51 | dcg | I will (and normally do) once this machine is back up. |
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| 14:07.27 | dcg | It's actually my xen server and hosts most everything here. |
| 14:07.55 | dutchfish | dcg, stable installer -> minimal install -> dist-upgrade -> install your userland |
| 14:08.10 | dutchfish | dcg, ah ok |
| 14:08.24 | dcg | Had a system drive implode and the recovery (clone) drive failed to spin up |
| 14:08.35 | dutchfish | dcg, ouch |
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| 14:09.12 | dutchfish | dcg, install the xen-tools after dist-upgrade |
| 14:09.42 | dcg | Yeah, fortunately the guests are all on other drives, but the two that should have let me boot the system failed within a fairly short window. different brands and all. |
| 14:10.03 | dutchfish | dcg, scrugh |
| 14:10.28 | dcg | Yeah, I've done a few xen servers now, have a script that does most of the housekeeping for me |
| 14:10.48 | dutchfish | dcg, ok, then you know the drill, comfort your backups ;) |
| 14:12.01 | dutchfish | dcg, gl |
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| 14:15.36 | ImUs3r | -su: /etc/init.d/iptables: No such file or directory <â whatâs wrong? |
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| 14:17.09 | dcg | dutchfish: thanks. Going to need to seriously investigate why the backup drive turned it's toes up |
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| 14:17.46 | dutchfish | dcg, again gl |
| 14:18.23 | dutchfish | ImUs3r, as `sudo apt-file search iptables | grep etc` would tell that file needs to be created by you. |
| 14:18.45 | jelly | ImUs3r: probably nothing is wrong except your expectations |
| 14:19.13 | jelly | you want a simple iptables setup, look at the iptables-persistent package |
| 14:19.20 | ImUs3r | sudo apt-file search iptables | grep etc |
| 14:19.21 | ImUs3r | sudo: apt-file: command not found |
| 14:19.37 | ImUs3r | jelly: what you mean? |
| 14:19.59 | dutchfish | ImUs3r, also take a peak at https://wiki.debian.org/DebianFirewall |
| 14:20.06 | jelly | I mean there hasn't been an init script called "iptables" in about a decade |
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| 14:31.42 | ahi2 | any way to get username to show in login menu? |
| 14:32.23 | jasabella | login menu as in your display manager? |
| 14:32.54 | jelly | is there some other login menu |
| 14:33.14 | ahi2 | when u have to enter username and password |
| 14:33.47 | jelly | ahi2: for ...reasons, the software component doing that is called a "display manager" |
| 14:33.49 | jasabella | that's your display manager it sounds like |
| 14:34.02 | jelly | be it gdm3, sddm, lightdm, old xdm or other |
| 14:34.05 | jasabella | each one is configured different |
| 14:34.34 | ahi2 | ok |
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| 14:34.46 | jasabella | it's considered a security hazard to do what you're asking so you know |
| 14:36.02 | ahi2 | ubuntu shows the username. thats what i like |
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| 14:36.26 | ahi2 | ive googled and nothing is working |
| 14:36.57 | jelly | ahi2: figure out which *dm you have active, then google how to configure it or change theme |
| 14:36.58 | jasabella | which display manager (DM) are you using? |
| 14:37.00 | ahi2 | lightdm |
| 14:37.11 | jasabella | DMs have different ways of doing things |
| 14:37.22 | ahi2 | i changed lightdm.conf with no luck |
| 14:37.43 | jelly | ,v sddm |
| 14:37.44 | judd | Package: sddm on amd64 -- sid: 0.13.0-1; stretch: 0.13.0-1 |
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| 15:43.57 | kocane | Any tips for at problem where my copy speeds are pathetic? I'm copying files from the same drive, one folder to another, and the speeds are around 50 MB/s |
| 15:44.22 | kocane | At first I suspected my external HDD enclosure as having a crappy controller but then I tried on the system SSD and the result was kind of the same |
| 15:44.50 | AlexLikeRock | kocane, are normal |
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| 15:45.15 | kocane | AlexLikeRock: 70 MB/s? |
| 15:45.17 | kocane | on an SSD? |
| 15:45.25 | kocane | single file |
| 15:45.28 | kocane | 8gig) |
| 15:45.34 | AlexLikeRock | size ? |
| 15:45.57 | kocane | 8gb |
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| 15:46.38 | AlexLikeRock | reading an wirting at same hdd |
| 15:46.44 | AlexLikeRock | go to slow |
| 15:46.44 | kocane | ye |
| 15:46.46 | kocane | I thought that as well |
| 15:46.48 | kocane | but it's an ssd? |
| 15:46.55 | AlexLikeRock | you are coping not moving |
| 15:47.06 | kocane | my HDDs (wd red 5400rpm) drop to 10 MB/s even |
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| 15:48.06 | AlexLikeRock | tinck are normal speed |
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| 15:52.01 | at0m | kocane: try with https://romanrm.net/dd-benchmark . 10MB/s is way slow, even on non-ssd. |
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| 15:53.07 | at0m | think in the order of 50-100MB/s for copying to/from same ssd. |
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| 15:55.42 | at0m | here over 100MB/s on an older core2duo and ssd, for a file of 2GB |
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| 15:59.03 | OerHeks | no such channel, Guest96964 .. kalilinux perhaps? |
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| 16:01.21 | at0m | or /msg alis help list |
| 16:01.34 | at0m | and, /join #channel |
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| 16:06.34 | mingdao | When I was updating my system this morning I noticed a lot of xserver-xorg-video-* pkgs, but doubt that I need all these. How to determine which ones I do need, and eliminate the rest? |
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| 16:07.54 | alexdergrosse | hi! How to download all pdf-files from website with wget? |
| 16:08.19 | zykotick9 | mingdao: i'd suggest just leaving them! trying to remove them is probably gonna "break" a couple of meta-packages. |
| 16:08.32 | mingdao | "apt list xserver-xorg-video-*" shows https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3b425cc44beff53c14f815ab9b796c60 |
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| 16:09.51 | n4dir | mingdao: you probably installed the xserver-xorg-video packages via the metapackage xorg |
| 16:09.52 | zykotick9 | mingdao: <sidenote> on this box, "dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video" only lists a single entry xserver-xorg-video-intel BUT that's because i started from a VERY minimal setup and avoided the BIG xorg metapackages... |
| 16:09.54 | Mathisen | alexdergrosse, wget -r -A "*.pdf" -w 30 http://www.whatever.com |
| 16:10.07 | mingdao | zykotick9: rly? this laptop only has Intel Integrated and GeForce GT 750M |
| 16:10.08 | n4dir | removing them will remove xorg too. You will then have to install whatever you need from xorg |
| 16:10.42 | alexdergrosse | Mathisen, thanks... what is -w 30? |
| 16:10.54 | n4dir | i forgot what the exact packages are you need for X. Should be easy to find that via searchengine, there sure have been tips on forums.debian.net (ages ago) |
| 16:11.12 | Mathisen | alexdergrosse, time to wait between retrievals |
| 16:11.40 | Mathisen | alexdergrosse, just lower it |
| 16:11.53 | alexdergrosse | Mathisen, ok |
| 16:11.56 | alexdergrosse | thanks |
| 16:12.33 | mingdao | n4dir, zykotick9: thanks, I just need to read HOW-TO do a more minimal Debian install |
| 16:13.02 | n4dir | i for one ever have choosen the easy path and installed xorg (besides a proof-of-concept once) |
| 16:13.05 | zykotick9 | mingdao: again, i'd just leave it... very little benefit for a lot of effort?!?! |
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| 16:13.28 | n4dir | iirc xorg is around the lines of 130 MB. Well: i can live with that |
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| 16:14.04 | mingdao | zykotick9: it wouldn't bother you having/updating all this extra cruft? https://gist.github.com/8c8634344431276c712463022807085b |
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| 16:14.22 | mingdao | zykotick9: NB: this Debian install is on a 32GB mSATA drive |
| 16:14.56 | zykotick9 | avoids github.com when he can... so he'll assume mingdao's list has lots of "cruft" |
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| 16:15.23 | mingdao | zykotick9: http://codepad.org/57WEs3lj |
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| 16:17.31 | kocane | at0m: dd bs=1M count=4096 if=/dev/sdj of=test |
| 16:17.32 | kocane | like so? |
| 16:18.22 | mingdao | zykotick9: http://paste.debian.net/901568/ |
| 16:18.40 | n4dir | mingdao: i wouldn't bet, but this might give the first idea: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/128860/minimal-x-org-xserver-installation-on-debian-wheezy |
| 16:19.04 | mingdao | n4dir: I'll read it, but never was wheezy at all |
| 16:19.04 | kocane | at0m: 4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 66.7987 s, 64.3 MB/s |
| 16:19.56 | n4dir | hopefully it doesn't matter regarding that question |
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| 16:20.56 | kocane | and that was the SSD. It's an old SSD but still... an HDD in the microserver reports 93,8MB/s |
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| 16:21.30 | zykotick9 | mingdao: are you running testing/sid or have you just updated the xorg intel drivers manually somehow? |
| 16:22.27 | n4dir | let's hope the next step won't be to recompile the kernel (which surely has lots of cruft too ...) :-) |
| 16:22.42 | mingdao | zykotick9: stretch |
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| 16:22.52 | mingdao | n4dir: it's not my first rodeo |
| 16:22.59 | zykotick9 | mingdao: ahhh. |
| 16:23.01 | n4dir | :-) |
| 16:23.19 | mingdao | used Debian for ~3 months in 2003, then went to Slackware untill 2011, been with Gentoo/Funtoo since then |
| 16:23.27 | n4dir | well: have at it. Sure nothing impossible, rather easy |
| 16:23.52 | mingdao | have stretch main && stetch non-free |
| 16:24.02 | n4dir | and as a gentoo user recompiling the kernel shouldn't scare you ... |
| 16:24.22 | mingdao | n4dir: I recompiled Linux kernels for 13y, no issues |
| 16:24.48 | mingdao | n4dir: using the distro kernel atm because I'm not in the mood to write an initramfs script for encryption |
| 16:24.57 | mingdao | and idk the Debian pkg that might do that |
| 16:25.07 | mingdao | just now getting back to Debian |
| 16:25.34 | zykotick9 | has _thankfully_ not had to compile a kernel in over 5 years... since he left gentoo :) |
| 16:25.36 | mingdao | if I'd known in Nov 2003 that I could build software from source, and not use apt *only*, I might never have left |
| 16:25.39 | n4dir | anyway: installing the xorg-packages you need instead of installing xorg should be easy |
| 16:26.19 | mingdao | zykotick9: I don't view compiling a custom kernel (rather than distro kernel) as a "have to" |
| 16:26.38 | mingdao | but if you want to remove all those uneeded attack vectors (modules you'll never use), it's not a bad idea |
| 16:26.40 | n4dir | zykotick9: if i will go for it again i will probably pick funtoo and the debian kernel. can't say that i consider kernel compiling the most interesting thing on earth |
| 16:27.02 | mingdao | n4dir: Funtoo and debian-sources is quite nice |
| 16:27.21 | n4dir | i like gentoo a lot, but that kernel thing bugs me |
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| 16:27.38 | mingdao | n4dir: it's not difficult, just another skill set |
| 16:27.59 | n4dir | not saying its difficult. saying its boring |
| 16:27.59 | zykotick9 | !greenhouse |
| 16:27.59 | dpkg | Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. See also <diminishing returns on bogomips>. Hug a tree, use Debian! |
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| 16:28.58 | mingdao | except that the "global warming hoax" is just that; but using CPU cycles does make the electric power company happy |
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| 16:29.41 | mingdao | zykotick9: really just wanted to know HOW-TO remove cruft, thanks for the answers |
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| 16:38.02 | sine0 | can you fill a harddrive with zeros using dd |
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| 16:45.43 | n4dir | sine0: pretty sure that it is possible |
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| 16:49.36 | stimp | Dehb (Ian) The ??,,, INDIA DOWnaload free .debpakcage install >>>,,, |
| 16:49.42 | stimp | Please! |
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| 16:54.49 | AlekseyKurenev | hi all |
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| 16:56.40 | hsociety | what is the easyiest beginners hack to hack? |
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| 16:58.37 | n4dir | usually "hello world" |
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| 16:59.55 | crazy_dude | hack to hack?? |
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| 17:00.23 | hsociety | how can i get the hash of a password???? |
| 17:00.26 | Stiffler | hi |
| 17:00.34 | hsociety | that i want to hack |
| 17:00.37 | AlekseyKurenev | Help please wrap the script in the Deb package |
| 17:00.53 | crazy_dude | hash of what password? |
| 17:01.09 | Stiffler | how can i move my deleted to trash in ntfs mounted drive? |
| 17:01.48 | hsociety | how can i crack a password with a hash?!???? |
| 17:02.07 | Stiffler | u have to decrypt the hash for that |
| 17:02.16 | hsociety | where can i do that |
| 17:02.22 | Stiffler | dude |
| 17:02.23 | hsociety | finding the right hash |
| 17:02.47 | Stiffler | if u are trying to decrypt debian passwrd then its usess |
| 17:02.51 | Stiffler | useless |
| 17:03.00 | hsociety | wordpress pass |
| 17:03.02 | Stiffler | its uses 256 bit algo for hashing |
| 17:03.18 | crazy_dude | try with something simple dude |
| 17:03.19 | Stiffler | its uses 128 bits for hashing |
| 17:03.22 | hsociety | go eating see you guys |
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| 17:03.48 | Stiffler | so simple way u need a script with brute force + super computer to dehash it in 1 week |
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| 17:04.13 | Stiffler | so guys |
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| 17:04.26 | AlekseyKurenev | Help please wrap the script in the Deb package |
| 17:04.29 | Stiffler | how i can move my deleted files from ntfs drive into trash 1st |
| 17:04.47 | Stiffler | before deleting it .. right now they get deleted with out going to tthe trash |
| 17:05.06 | Stiffler | aleksey google scripting deb packages |
| 17:05.13 | Stiffler | their is nice tutorial for it |
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| 17:08.08 | Stiffler | !deb ntfs |
| 17:08.17 | Stiffler | !deb |
| 17:08.17 | dpkg | Debian .deb packages are a special form of <ar> archive which can be unpacked with "ar x pkg.deb". Inside the file control.tar.gz are conffiles, installation scripts, and a file "control" which contains the information shown with "apt-cache show pkg". Dependencies can be changed by editing this file. Install the dpkg-dev package and read "man 5 deb" for more details. A better plan is to see <package recompile> <source package>. |
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| 17:13.28 | n4dir | Stiffler: did you try to mv them to the local trash? |
| 17:14.13 | Stiffler | i guess ... as i just press delete |
| 17:14.25 | Stiffler | and they get deleted with out getting into the trash bin |
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| 17:14.48 | Stiffler | now i know their is a way to get ntfs files in to trash bin too but forgot :( |
| 17:14.57 | n4dir | from a filebrowser, i assume. Why that doesn't work is beyond me, but i would try it from a terminal, with mv |
| 17:15.33 | Stiffler | hmm |
| 17:16.00 | crazy_dude | or simple cut/paste? |
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| 17:17.46 | Stiffler | hmm well its seems that the problem lies in sometihng else.. |
| 17:17.50 | Stiffler | >.< |
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| 17:32.48 | crazy_dude | different question folks |
| 17:32.51 | yogiman-ws | Hi, I am trying to make goobox the default app used when inserting a CD, using gnome 3.14.1. However entering details, removable media, selecting CD Audio, goobox not available,selecting other application, it is also not available, so how do I add it in? can I add the option elsewhere? Any help appreciated :) |
| 17:32.57 | crazy_dude | is it worth getting rpi? |
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| 17:33.22 | yogiman-ws | crazy_dude, depends what you think you want to use it for |
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| 17:34.03 | crazy_dude | basically twatting about with kali on it, was thinking about tft and wifi |
| 17:34.09 | critias | I tries to recover the mysql root password the way advertised in https://www.howtoforge.com/setting-changing-resetting-mysql-root-passwords but that does not work: the commands execute OK, but no change in root password. What can I do? running jessie and MySQL 5.5 |
| 17:34.12 | crazy_dude | basically to learn some new thing |
| 17:34.39 | crazy_dude | can you not reset root passwd during start up? |
| 17:34.46 | crazy_dude | easiest way to do it imho |
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| 17:35.30 | n4dir | crazy_dude: look at the freedombox site at wiki.debian.org. |
| 17:35.59 | yogiman-ws | crazy_dude, I have original 256mb + B+ +Pi2 all work fine for specific jobs, media centre, web server, media server etc, I've only used raspbian, I understand RPi 3 is better for running desktops etc, however I would think Rpi 4 will be along shortly. |
| 17:36.45 | crazy_dude | might be worth waiting then, thanks for heads up |
| 17:36.47 | critias | tried dpkg-reconfigure the server too... no go |
| 17:36.56 | crazy_dude | n4dir, looking just now, thanks |
| 17:37.01 | yogiman-ws | crazy_dude, welcome |
| 17:37.26 | n4dir | my point was (kinda) not focus on a raspberry, but on similar hardware in general) |
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| 17:37.38 | hsociety | Hello! |
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| 17:37.57 | n4dir | i got a raspberry and am happy with it, but i guess you will get simlar stuff (which might be better, cheaper, whatever) |
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| 17:38.20 | yogiman-ws | n4dir, perhaps not the same sort of support though |
| 17:39.01 | n4dir | yeah, might be. |
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| 17:39.36 | hsociety | root@hsociety:~#Hello! |
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| 17:40.09 | cloudowind | hello back there |
| 17:40.55 | hsociety | Any Penetration Testers here? |
| 17:41.40 | cloudowind | no , all buddist here , and at the moment we are hearing for Ian |
| 17:42.16 | crazy_dude | n4dir, what other hardware you have in mind? any particular examples? |
| 17:42.23 | n4dir | crazy_dude: i had to ask in another channel. Arduiono is mentioned now and then (i can't say much more) |
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| 17:42.43 | n4dir | i would go for something more like what was used by freedombox. Not sure what it is called |
| 17:43.00 | n4dir | sorry: arduiono |
| 17:43.20 | n4dir | as far freedombox is concerned -> plug computers |
| 17:43.30 | SpeccyMan | try Arduino lol |
| 17:43.35 | crazy_dude | i tought these are different things |
| 17:43.45 | hsociety | watch your mouth about Buddist's! |
| 17:43.58 | crazy_dude | lmao |
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| 17:44.28 | hsociety | what means imao?! |
| 17:44.50 | crazy_dude | L, not i |
| 17:44.50 | n4dir | crazy_dude: my main concern was (and is) low power consumption. All i said was: perhaps look around for other options. |
| 17:45.13 | crazy_dude | laughing my arse off |
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| 17:45.18 | crazy_dude | n4, i get ya |
| 17:45.35 | cloudowind | nothing to laugh though |
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| 17:48.50 | hsociety | hot to create a channel? |
| 17:48.55 | hsociety | on IRC Freenode |
| 17:48.59 | hsociety | or other network |
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| 17:49.14 | crazy_dude | how about google it?? |
| 17:49.24 | teraflops | hsociety: go as in #freenode |
| 17:49.27 | SpeccyMan | prefers neli (not even laughing inwardly) |
| 17:49.28 | teraflops | ask* |
| 17:49.31 | hsociety | are you crazy dude? |
| 17:49.41 | hsociety | ;) |
| 17:49.55 | hsociety | #freenode |
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| 17:50.51 | ImUs3r | : if i set external port as 64000 internal port 80 in port forwarding on router, then 64000 port will open? |
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| 17:53.04 | redefine6 | How do I get my monitors to goto sleep from inactivity? |
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| 17:54.53 | teraflops | ImUs3r: sounds about right but idk about your router |
| 17:55.15 | dm_comp | Hi, I'm experiencing screen tearing. From what I can gather it is caused by SNA acceleration. Also it seems it's a simple fix by adding Option "TearFree" "true". My question is what is the full path of the file where I need to add this? Also, It's a built in Intel card. |
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| 17:55.20 | ImUs3r | teraflops: only 80 port open? |
| 17:55.33 | teraflops | ImUs3r: i dont get what you mean |
| 17:55.47 | ImUs3r | :( |
| 17:55.50 | teraflops | ImUs3r: the router cares about the external ones |
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| 17:56.27 | ImUs3r | strange |
| 17:56.29 | ImUs3r | :( |
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| 17:57.25 | teraflops | ImUs3r: what are you trying to do? |
| 17:58.32 | teraflops | dm_comp: tearfree could fix it but you get shit performance |
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| 17:58.50 | ImUs3r | external port : 54000, internal port: 80 for port forwarding. then i want to see that 54000 port is opened? |
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| 17:58.57 | hsociety | ##Kali |
| 17:58.58 | ImUs3r | but 54000 port is not open |
| 17:59.14 | teraflops | ImUs3r: how are you testing it? |
| 17:59.31 | ImUs3r | nmap 192.168.1.1 |
| 17:59.33 | ImUs3r | teraflops: |
| 17:59.42 | teraflops | ImUs3r: huh? |
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| 18:00.12 | ImUs3r | nmap -p 54000 192.168.1.1 teraflops |
| 18:00.32 | teraflops | ImUs3r: oh you have a lot of reading pending |
| 18:00.47 | dm_comp | teraflops: So, what would be your suggestion? |
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| 18:00.53 | teraflops | ImUs3r: the router has nothng to do there |
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| 18:01.17 | teraflops | dm_comp: i's suggest trying another accel method ir just modesetting |
| 18:01.19 | ImUs3r | teraflops: what you mean? can you explain it detailly? |
| 18:01.22 | teraflops | or* |
| 18:02.36 | teraflops | ImUs3r: well, it's not debian related at all, but youre inside the lan since the ip address youre scanning is from the lan, so your router has nothing to do there |
| 18:02.56 | ImUs3r | oh |
| 18:03.34 | ImUs3r | then i use nmap with external ip? |
| 18:03.40 | ImUs3r | teraflops: ? |
| 18:03.46 | dm_comp | Also, I would like to try it. Do you know where I need to add the option. If the performance get to bad, I will look for alternatives. |
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| 18:04.18 | teraflops | ImUs3r: you need nmap from outside you lan |
| 18:04.36 | dm_comp | is it /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf |
| 18:04.44 | ImUs3r | oh |
| 18:04.50 | ImUs3r | teraflops: you are great |
| 18:06.55 | teraflops | dm_comp: yep http://ix.io/1Ls0 |
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| 18:08.00 | ImUs3r | teraflops: how can i know that port is open or not? |
| 18:08.07 | teraflops | ImUs3r: if your router does nat loopbak you can check from inside as just feeding nmap with the WAN ip address |
| 18:08.07 | ImUs3r | nmap donât work |
| 18:08.14 | teraflops | ImUs3r: I already told you |
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| 18:08.47 | ImUs3r | i check it from outside but nmap donât work |
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| 18:09.31 | teraflops | ImUs3r: how are you doing it and what does from outside means for you |
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| 18:09.36 | teraflops | mean* |
| 18:09.46 | LtL | ImUs3r: go here, scan your ports from outside. its safe. https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 |
| 18:09.47 | ImUs3r | nmap 204.34.27.35 |
| 18:09.52 | ImUs3r | teraflops: |
| 18:09.56 | teraflops | ImUs3r: externam machine or tsd |
| 18:10.06 | teraflops | from where |
| 18:10.06 | OerHeks | LtL +1 |
| 18:10.12 | dm_comp | teraflops: okay, thank you. Let me try it out. |
| 18:10.29 | ImUs3r | teraflops: in house. |
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| 18:10.45 | teraflops | again use your wifi's network a vps or ask a friend |
| 18:10.57 | teraflops | uness your router does nat loopback |
| 18:11.05 | teraflops | unless* |
| 18:11.41 | teraflops | s/wifis netwok/neighbour's wifi ^ |
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| 18:12.39 | teraflops | sorry for the typos btw⦠|
| 18:14.05 | teraflops | ImUs3r: or use a external site like the one LtL posted |
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| 18:15.39 | ImUs3r | teraflops: you are right |
| 18:15.40 | ImUs3r | :) |
| 18:15.45 | ImUs3r | you are my hero |
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| 18:17.21 | ImUs3r | i canât confirm external port opening under same network? |
| 18:17.24 | ImUs3r | teraflops: ? |
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| 18:18.29 | teraflops | this is the third time I say you, if your router does nat loopbak you can scan the wan ip from inside |
| 18:19.54 | ImUs3r | thanks teraflops :) |
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| 18:22.33 | teraflops | ImUs3r: np |
| 18:23.10 | ImUs3r | external port and internal port is in router both? |
| 18:23.23 | ImUs3r | both external port and internal port is in router? |
| 18:26.08 | ImUs3r | teraflops: ? |
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| 18:29.42 | ImUs3r | last question :) teraflops |
| 18:31.11 | ImUs3r | thanks bye be happy |
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| 18:36.09 | techno2900 | Hello, I have a problem with a USB on debian. When I delete a file (a video), I delete the file and I delete all the files in the trash. I delete the trash folder of the usb key but, 4,0 kb still on the key ! I have to give this key to a friend. Can you help me please ? |
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| 18:37.16 | techno2900 | Thank you in advance for your help :) |
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| 18:39.31 | techno2900 | anybody can help me ? |
| 18:41.20 | techno2900 | ? |
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| 18:44.51 | crazy_dude | why are you so concerned about 4kb? |
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| 18:46.58 | t4nk818 | Could somebody help me? libssl-dev : Depends: libssl1.0.0 (= 1.0.1t-1+deb8u5) but 1.0.2j-1~bpo8+1 is to be installed |
| 18:47.09 | PryMar56 | techno2900, dd dev/zero to the first 1M |
| 18:47.12 | techno2900 | crazy_dude : I have to sale this USB to a person |
| 18:47.28 | techno2900 | the zero represent what ? The USB ? |
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| 18:49.34 | techno2900 | PryMar56 : The zero represent what ? The USB ? |
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| 18:50.27 | PryMar56 | techno2900, man dd |
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| 18:50.35 | techno2900 | okay |
| 18:50.39 | techno2900 | thank you |
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| 18:51.44 | t4nk818 | How do I fix this? libssl-dev : Depends: libssl1.0.0 (= 1.0.1t-1+deb8u5) but 1.0.2j-1~bpo8+1 is to be installed |
| 18:52.06 | afx_ | Hello ! Would you recommend thunderbird over evolution? |
| 18:52.47 | zykotick9 | afx_: Would you recommend yellow over orange? |
| 18:54.17 | th0r | zykotick9: he is looking to find out if there are any hidden issues, or missing features. I think it should be treated as an honest request |
| 18:54.18 | afx_ | zykotick9: I am talking about stability , responsiveness etc. I have read about some bugs on evolution . I am asking just for your experience |
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| 18:57.23 | Niel_ | Heey |
| 18:57.30 | Niel_ | I've got a question |
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| 18:58.01 | Niel_ | Can I insert a Linux LiveCD to copy files from another drive with Linux installed? |
| 18:58.31 | SwedeMike | Niel_: yes. |
| 18:58.51 | Niel_ | Ok thanks a lot! |
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| 19:05.23 | th0r | afx_: i haven't used evol in years. that said, I recently tried epiphany on a pi and was very impressed with how far it had progressed. so evol might be worth a look. |
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| 19:06.04 | google77 | hi |
| 19:06.27 | google77 | I have a problem. For sound, I only have dummy output at the moment. |
| 19:06.54 | th0r | afx_: Lately it seems to me that mozilla has become bloated and slow....hence my move to epiphany. If I ever move my email back from android to linux |
| 19:07.02 | afx_ | thank you th0r . What about thunderbird? |
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| 19:07.04 | th0r | i will try evol |
| 19:07.05 | google77 | If you wish I can give you a pastebin of lspci |
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| 19:08.13 | nano_python | google77, Do you have pulseaudio installed? |
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| 19:08.53 | th0r | I feel both thunderbird and mozilla are suffering the same....becoming slow, and perhaps a tad unstable. but I don't subscribe to the present thinking....buy better hardware. |
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| 19:09.22 | techno2900 | I have difficulties to create a virtual machine on virtualbox. |
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| 19:09.39 | techno2900 | I can choose the RAM |
| 19:09.49 | techno2900 | can you help me please ? Thank you in advance ! |
| 19:10.09 | afx_ | th0r: thank you appreciate it ! |
| 19:10.25 | google77 | nano_python pulseaudio is already the newest version (9.0-5). |
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| 19:12.47 | techno2900 | anybody can help me ? |
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| 19:19.40 | google77 | nano_python here is my lspci output(it's a laptop): http://pastebin.com/Na04pqgc |
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| 19:21.14 | google77 | alsa force-reload for some reason says command not found, but alsa-utils are installed |
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| 19:25.43 | google77 | fuck it doesn't recognise any alsa commands |
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| 19:51.52 | alle | #flood |
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| 20:17.30 | at0m | kocane: that's more reasonable speed, innit. assuming you're on /dev/sdj when you of=test |
| 20:17.40 | SanchoPensa | hi guys! I am looking for a decent torrent client, that runs under xfce. any suggestions, pls? |
| 20:18.10 | kocane | at0m: pretty awful though? |
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| 20:18.38 | suboptimal90 | SanchoPen, qbittorrent |
| 20:18.39 | at0m | kocane: 64.3 MB/s is at least acceptable, as opposed to 10MB/s |
| 20:18.50 | at0m | different order of magnitude =) |
| 20:19.08 | at0m | but yea double should be doable, over 100MB/s |
| 20:19.12 | th0r | SanchoPensa: deluge or transmission |
| 20:19.24 | kocane | at0m: I've no idea what the culprit is |
| 20:19.34 | kocane | Must be because the SSD is shit |
| 20:19.58 | SanchoPensa | th0r: tranismission, geez, thats been a long time... azureus/vuze seems to suck more and more by the day... |
| 20:20.02 | at0m | kocane: or your controller. /dev/sdj doesn't sound like prime connection on the motherboard |
| 20:20.03 | SanchoPensa | thanks, bro! |
| 20:20.20 | kocane | That's a good point |
| 20:20.39 | kocane | It's a microserver |
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| 20:20.51 | th0r | SanchoPensa: I have used bio |
| 20:20.57 | kocane | it's the one sata port thats meant for dvd or something? |
| 20:21.38 | SanchoPensa | th0r: bio? |
| 20:21.48 | th0r | SanchoPensa: i have used both with xfce. transmission is a bit less refined, but deluge has a ton of dependencies |
| 20:22.09 | SanchoPensa | th0r: yes, friom what i can see, it is a python app... |
| 20:22.11 | kocane | Right now I'm copying a file from that SSD to the first HDD of an external eSATA enclosure with a whopping 11mb/s, aint life great |
| 20:22.16 | th0r | SanchoPensa: typing on a tablet....not great |
| 20:23.35 | SanchoPensa | th0r: heh, i see. :) how about qbittorrent, and bittornado, do you happen to be familiar with those? |
| 20:24.01 | at0m | kocane: not sure, any other sata ports on that machine? i'd try to put the ssd on a fast one, to optimize its throughput. cos that's why there's ssd, right |
| 20:24.26 | kocane | at0m: there's four others, each got a 3tb disk in em |
| 20:24.50 | kocane | it dont matter too much |
| 20:25.02 | kocane | the ssd is nice because theres no spinning, is all |
| 20:25.13 | at0m | kocane: with UUID's in fstab, it doesn't matter much where you connect each, regarding disks and their mount points |
| 20:25.16 | th0r | SanchoPensa: no...I think qb is kde and I have always avoided both kde and gnome. bittornado...never even heard of it :) |
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| 20:25.59 | at0m | kocane: yea ssd's on boot and OS disks here, too, for that very reason. no need to have disks spin up for routine jobs. |
| 20:26.10 | SanchoPensa | th0r: bittornado is about as ancient as tranmission... and yes, i can't have gnoe and kde any longer either... |
| 20:26.38 | kocane | at0m: 'xactly |
| 20:26.45 | kocane | any opinion on spinning HDDs up and down? |
| 20:26.46 | SanchoPensa | can't have vuze any longer, firefox sucks, everything sucks lately... |
| 20:27.03 | kocane | I got 9x3TB hdds.. having them all spinning (theyre wd reds) consumes alotta power |
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| 20:27.34 | at0m | kocane: mostly for storage here, while actively using them: watching a movie, listening to music |
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| 20:27.54 | at0m | if nothing plays, they're parked. |
| 20:28.05 | kocane | mye |
| 20:28.11 | suboptimal90 | im on debian xfce and i can run qbittorrent just fine |
| 20:28.18 | kocane | any experience with FS like mhddfs, mergerfs,aufs? |
| 20:28.19 | suboptimal90 | installable via apt-get |
| 20:28.28 | at0m | kocane: not me |
| 20:28.35 | kocane | aight |
| 20:28.54 | th0r | SanchoPensa: I am moving everything to android and raspbian. I could type a letter or paper as well on wordstar under cpm as on a win10tablet. can't see spending thousands on a desktop when I could spend tens. |
| 20:29.06 | th0r | xfce runs great on the pi3 |
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| 20:29.42 | SanchoPensa | th0r: :D i feel you bro... hows that raspbian working for you? |
| 20:30.18 | th0r | terrific...if you want to move this to #raspbian I will tell you all about it |
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| 20:30.54 | SanchoPensa | my computer is some 8 yrs old btw, its a quadcore and it has 4 gig of ram and a fast ssd, wth do i need a new one for?!? |
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| 20:31.56 | silver_hook | Hullo. Iâm setting up Debian on an ARM board to use it as a webserver and wonder what would be the most sane set-up of partitions btrfs subvolumes. |
| 20:32.09 | teraflops | ugh transmission is fine, deluge is fine too |
| 20:32.26 | th0r | SanchoPensa: my dell 430 runs xfce/debian. putnit next to the pi and you can't tell the difference |
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| 20:33.28 | SanchoPensa | HAHAHA, i know, what you mean, my tablet is faster than my pc too :D |
| 20:33.44 | SanchoPensa | th0r: i have joined #raspbian btw;) |
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| 20:36.28 | teraflops | silver_hook: maybe /var in a suvbol if you put all the web stuff under /var/www, I'd go with /home, / for sure and maybe /var in a subvol as I said |
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| 20:37.46 | silver_hook | teraflops: My idea was to have subvolumes for /, /home, /var/www and /var/lib/postgres â¦but then someone on #btrfs said that subvolumes donât make much sense in this case. |
| 20:37.51 | silver_hook | â¦so now Iâm confused :/ |
| 20:37.54 | teraflops | I wonder in which universe a rpi is faster than a quadcore pc with 4GB of ram? |
| 20:38.08 | teraflops | silver_hook: yeah perhaps /var but not big deal |
| 20:38.27 | silver_hook | (oh and /boot as a separate ext partition, because I donât trust that u-boot and btrfs are 100% going to get along) |
| 20:38.42 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: What benefit do you expect from doing seperate subvols/partitions for that? |
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| 20:39.22 | unborn | teraflops: non.. rpis are great for reverse ssh or git server or ssh backup time machine - if they are powered over poe.. otherwise quiet useless.. |
| 20:39.27 | teraflops | silver_hook: yeah go safe and don't use btrfs for the u-boot |
| 20:39.43 | teraflops | idk if it supports btrfs |
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| 20:40.27 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: Well, on my old ARM server (DreamPlug running Gentoo) I used separate ext4 LVM volumes (and reiser for portage) to make sure that I donât run out of space if e.g. postgresql or a user goes crazy |
| 20:40.34 | teraflops | rpis are not powerful ones for sure but you can do many things there |
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| 20:41.08 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: Well if it's for that reason, then don't do subvolumes |
| 20:41.10 | teraflops | silver_hook: btrfs subvols are not partitions |
| 20:41.27 | silver_hook | teraflops: I know, thatâs why Iâm asking :) |
| 20:41.39 | l4m8d4 | subvolumes don't set any constraints on space usage for themselves, you need qgroups for that, and qgroups in btrfs are pretty much broken still |
| 20:42.15 | teraflops | silver_hook: if /var goes crazy it'll fill the entire disk |
| 20:42.47 | unborn | teraflops: for reverse ssh (aka teamviewer) they are brilliant well if they are able to be powered via poe - just plug and go.. ssh backups on some 2tb 2.5 hdd also good but otherwise - perhaps for git repos if you know how to use very low ram and cpu then also good.. however as you said and I am keen to say this as well loudly they are not very useful |
| 20:43.00 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: I know that by now. But the Btrfs wiki still suggests this, but falls short to explain why: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/SysadminGuide#Layout |
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| 20:43.48 | teraflops | silver_hook: I do btrfs in production I have a couple of posgresql machines for doing GIS and they have /var in a subvol but it's just me |
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| 20:44.20 | silver_hook | teraflops: Yeah, which is why Iâm wondering how and why to set up the partitionioning and subvoluming ⦠|
| 20:44.20 | teraflops | / and /home is fine |
| 20:44.28 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: What kernel are you planning to run the machine on btw? |
| 20:44.31 | l4m8d4 | debian stable? |
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| 20:45.08 | swatchel | help me ! not properly mount ltsp /sys/fs/selinux |
| 20:45.10 | teraflops | silver_hook: I suggest a kernel from backports and btrfsprogs too |
| 20:45.11 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: Armbian kernels on top of Debian stable. |
| 20:45.43 | teraflops | armbian has a lot of kernels in their repo |
| 20:45.56 | teraflops | i meant newer ones |
| 20:45.57 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: Okay, but which version? |
| 20:46.05 | silver_hook | Currently Iâm on 4.8.4-sunxi. |
| 20:46.22 | teraflops | silver_hook: youll be fine |
| 20:46.36 | silver_hook | Which, if Iâm not mistaken, thatâs vanilla 4.8.4 with sunxi patches. |
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| 20:46.41 | l4m8d4 | Okay, that's already a good start for btrfs - if you are aware of the common btrfs bugs |
| 20:46.44 | teraflops | silver_hook: right |
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| 20:47.41 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: Yay! Commons btrfs bugs like https://wiki.debian.org/Btrfs#WARNINGS |
| 20:47.55 | teraflops | silver_hook: btrfs-progs from backports would be a good idea too |
| 20:48.06 | teraflops | ,v btrfs-progs |
| 20:48.07 | judd | Package: btrfs-progs on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 4.7.3-1~bpo8+1; sid: 4.7.3-1; stretch: 4.7.3-1 |
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| 20:48.39 | silver_hook | 4.7.3-1~bpo8+1 |
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| 20:50.48 | teraflops | silver_hook: btw btrfs will perform slow in old HDDs |
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| 20:51.09 | l4m8d4 | And, not in the wiki, but nice to know: removing devices from multi-device pools is kinda broken in kernel 4.8 |
| 20:52.07 | swatchel | ? |
| 20:52.11 | silver_hook | teraflops: new 1TB WD Red 2.5" plugged via native SATA into Olimex Lime 2. Should be hella faster than my previous silly set up of 2x WD Red 3.5" with LVM RAID1 over a shared eSATA multiplier :P |
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| 20:53.25 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: Good to know, but I donât plan to plug more HDDs into the same rig. For backups Iâll simply use my old DreamPlug and push snapshots to it. |
| 20:54.25 | teraflops | silver_hook: ah that's fine |
| 20:54.26 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: If you want to make consistent backups, you should try to avoid too many subvolumes though |
| 20:54.52 | teraflops | silver_hook: for backups use btrfs send | btrfs receive |
| 20:54.57 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: Well I probably donât need to snapshot the whole / â¦so subvolumes only for what I need? |
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| 20:55.55 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: I just wanted to say that because if you want a consistent state of a directory structure with multiple subvolumes, it isn't really possible |
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| 20:56.05 | silver_hook | teraflops: Yup, thereâs some coherence in my madness â¦and running Gentoo on an ARMv5 does teach you many things ;) |
| 20:56.28 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: Hmmm, can you elaborate? |
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| 20:56.38 | teraflops | silver_hook: yeah that teach you patience while seeing a lot of text |
| 20:56.41 | teraflops | :P |
| 20:56.50 | silver_hook | teraflops: No need to diss Gentoo :P |
| 20:56.54 | teraflops | hehe |
| 20:57.48 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: So consider you have / and /var in seperate subvolumes and you want to back them up in a consistent way. You cannot just snapshot / and be fine, because due to te way btrfs snapshots work, /var will not be in that snapshot |
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| 20:58.11 | l4m8d4 | so you need to make 2 snapshots, one for / and one for /var, which is NOT atomic anymore |
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| 20:58.32 | l4m8d4 | it may not be a problem for you, but it's certainly good to know that |
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| 20:58.54 | vpf | hello |
| 20:59.19 | vpf | I've got a problem with debian + onboard sound |
| 20:59.32 | vpf | I hope somebody can help with with that... |
| 21:00.17 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: OK, so hereâs what I was thinking ⦠not snapshot /, but snapshot /home, /var/www and /var/lib/postgres â¦and when I need to recreate it, just install a new Debian system and pull those snapshots into the new (empty) folders. |
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| 21:00.37 | silver_hook | Again, it might be a completely blue-eyed assumption from me that this is how it works. |
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| 21:01.19 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: Okay you can do that, but the problem with consistent states is still there. But it may not matter for you |
| 21:01.25 | jhutchins_wk | vpf: How would we know if we can help if you don't tell us what the problem IS? |
| 21:01.48 | l4m8d4 | Just try to create the snapshots all at once with a script or something to increase consistency :D |
| 21:01.50 | vpf | installed alsa-base and alsa-utils |
| 21:02.04 | teraflops | silver_hook: then /var as we discussed is a good idea for having tight snapshots |
| 21:02.10 | vpf | null Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture) |
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| 21:02.47 | silver_hook | has a feeling this will be more difficult than he initially presumed |
| 21:03.04 | vpf | this is what I get when I do a aplay -L |
| 21:03.16 | vpf | like in the guide I was reading about it :( |
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| 21:04.20 | vpf | lspci | grep -i audio |
| 21:04.29 | vpf | is giving me this: |
| 21:04.31 | teraflops | silver_hook: just use deboostrap and youll be fine |
| 21:04.33 | silver_hook | teraflops: Yeah, I guess /var would be easier than /var/www and /var/lib/postgres â¦does this save me from the consistent states issue then? |
| 21:04.33 | vpf | lspci | grep -i audio |
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| 21:04.45 | vpf | 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 09) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04) |
| 21:05.04 | teraflops | silver_hook: not really but looks better for me |
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| 21:05.29 | silver_hook | OK, |
| 21:05.45 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: Yeah I guess to some extent it does. Since /var/lib/postgres and /var/www are in the same subvolume then, they will be in consistent state |
| 21:05.47 | silver_hook | so how would you guys set it up then, teraflops and l4m8d4 â¦and why? |
| 21:05.58 | vpf | jhutchins_wk: I'm a rookie to audio configuration... any thoughts? |
| 21:06.17 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: I would only do one subvolume for the whole system, for example on /system, and snapshot that |
| 21:06.44 | teraflops | silver_hook: why? because I enjoy subvols and sending them over the network |
| 21:06.57 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: You can send the whole system too |
| 21:06.58 | teraflops | how? use deboostrap |
| 21:07.12 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: pro: easy to set up, easy to manage; con: much bigger volume to send around |
| 21:07.20 | silver_hook | teraflops: debootstrap? |
| 21:07.57 | teraflops | silver_hook: debian installer does not support btrfs setup, ah wait youre running a sbc |
| 21:08.00 | teraflops | nvm |
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| 21:08.20 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: I have a few machines that use that setup, btrbk is the program I use for backups. The snapshots get sent over the internet incrementally. It takes about 5 mins per backup |
| 21:08.21 | silver_hook | teraflops: Ah, found it. Yeah, ARM-based board. |
| 21:08.48 | jhutchins_wk | !tell vpf about alsa checklist |
| 21:09.07 | jhutchins_wk | vpf: Still not clear what the problem is, but have a look at what dpkg sent you. |
| 21:09.10 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: Hmmm, Iâll look into that. |
| 21:09.24 | teraflops | silver_hook: https://mediagoblin.mysticemporium.net/mgoblin_media/media_entries/12/screencast-1450632779.webm |
| 21:09.42 | vpf | jhutchins_wk: Ok, will try the checklist |
| 21:10.10 | silver_hook | teraflops: Fish? |
| 21:10.12 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: Once you have your first snapshot on the destination, you can just do btrfs send -p <snapshot> to do an incremental send from the last state |
| 21:10.31 | teraflops | silver_hook: it's a debian jessie btrfs setup |
| 21:10.39 | unborn | supercow lol |
| 21:10.41 | l4m8d4 | So even sending you whole system around the internet is maintainable if you don't have a lot of changes |
| 21:10.45 | unborn | nice name for machine |
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| 21:10.50 | silver_hook | teraflops: I meant the shell :) |
| 21:10.52 | teraflops | partitionless + subvols set up via deboostrap |
| 21:10.56 | teraflops | ah zsh |
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| 21:11.12 | silver_hook | teraflops: Cool. I used Zsh for many years :) |
| 21:11.24 | teraflops | silver_hook: I do zsh everywhere I can |
| 21:11.34 | teraflops | if I can* |
| 21:12.16 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: That sounds pretty good. So it takes 5' for the average incremental snapshot (and on which arch)? |
| 21:12.30 | silver_hook | teraflops: I did as well (itâs still on my Gentoo server) |
| 21:12.39 | teraflops | ah nice |
| 21:13.53 | silver_hook | Now Iâm using Fish for a month or two and like it quite a bit. |
| 21:14.05 | teraflops | silver_hook: incremental snapshots are neat, you can also take ro snapshots too |
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| 21:14.10 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: On my system it does. Sometimes it even takes only a few seconds. I depends mainly on the amount of changes it has to transfer. |
| 21:14.48 | silver_hook | Sure. But how big is the partition and how fast are the machines? ;) |
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| 21:15.05 | teraflops | unborn: the hostname was a joke about copy on write |
| 21:15.20 | n4dir | doesn't matter how big as long you only backup the changes and don't have many |
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| 21:16.33 | unborn | teraflops: but still, it proves that sys still have some senses |
| 21:16.34 | unborn | ;) |
| 21:16.43 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: Well, it differs. On the whole, I got 5 machines that are set up that way. I would say it is mainly about 100GB used in total with all snapshots etc. on the machines themselves. Changes are mostly a few megabytes, since the backups are done hourly. Sometimes more, for example after updates |
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| 21:17.19 | silver_hook | teraflops: Supercow al rescate! (also cool that you use MediaGoblin) |
| 21:17.33 | teraflops | you can always automate the process unless you want to tale snapshots manually for some reason |
| 21:17.38 | teraflops | take* |
| 21:17.49 | silver_hook | Of course⦠|
| 21:18.23 | l4m8d4 | I have to say that the main problem is the internet speed |
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| 21:18.47 | l4m8d4 | The snapshots are sent over 10/10 mbit links |
| 21:18.49 | teraflops | l4m8d4: yeah I do have a good connection at both ends so im fine |
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| 21:18.58 | teraflops | l4m8d4: ugh |
| 21:19.04 | silver_hook | Mine will be on the same LAN, so that should be fine :) |
| 21:19.07 | teraflops | 300/300 here :) |
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| 21:19.20 | teraflops | silver_hook: more than fine then |
| 21:19.23 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: I guess you are fine then |
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| 21:19.56 | BlackMage | How do I continue an interrupted upgrade? |
| 21:20.34 | teraflops | BlackMage: you killed apt/aptitude while installing packages? |
| 21:21.02 | l0llip0p | BlackMage: maybe u need to run '#dpkg --configure -a' first to fix things that have broken during the upgrade |
| 21:21.42 | teraflops | and maybe there's a lock file hanging around too |
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| 21:22.19 | awal1 | BlackMage: apt/apt-get/aptitude -f install/--fix-missing may help; or dpkg as you have been told |
| 21:22.41 | BlackMage | E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. E: Unable to correct dependencies shows me 'sudo apt-get -f install' |
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| 21:22.47 | teraflops | silver_hook: mediagoblin is a great piece of software |
| 21:23.30 | awal1 | BlackMage: I huess you 're with stretch/sid? |
| 21:23.35 | silver_hook | OK, so subvolumes for /, /home, /var it is â¦plus btrbk for snapshot backups. |
| 21:23.43 | teraflops | awal1: oh you asked me time ago about iperf right? |
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| 21:24.07 | awal1 | teraflops: let me check pkg description |
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| 21:24.15 | silver_hook | teraflops: Iâve been on and off following it from the start, but just donât seem to have any use for it. Big user of ownCloud/Nextcloud though. |
| 21:24.18 | vpf3 | re |
| 21:24.51 | BlackMage | awal1: yes, upgrade jessie to sid |
| 21:24.54 | silver_hook | Iâll try to shove MediaGoblin down our hackerspaceâs throat as soon as we get our poop in a group and move our photos (and videos) from 2rd party stuff. |
| 21:25.04 | teraflops | awal1: I mean I read a msg from you about a software for measuring network speed |
| 21:25.17 | awal1 | teraflops: yeah, perfect. Effectively, I asked you when looking for a speedtest-cli replacement. Thanks |
| 21:25.30 | teraflops | awal1: iperf is the best one imo |
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| 21:25.52 | awal1 | teraflops; it looks, so. I'll try it. thanks |
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| 21:26.21 | silver_hook | BTW, whatâs the best way set up web apps on Debian? On Gentoo I use(d) its own vhosts and Iâm still a bit confused with Docker. |
| 21:27.00 | awal1 | BlackMage: stretch/sid is #debian-next |
| 21:27.16 | awal1 | dpkg: tell BlackMage about bat |
| 21:27.46 | teraflops | silver_hook: if they are python i'd go with supervisor/emperor + nginx |
| 21:27.50 | kantra | Hi |
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| 21:28.58 | jhutchins_wk | BlackMage: One would usually go from jessie to stretch to sid, that may be where you went wrong. |
| 21:29.27 | silver_hook | teraflops: Iâve got a mix of Python (Pelican), C++ (ZNC) and PHP/PostgreSQL (ownCloud/Nextcloud, FOSSology) |
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| 21:32.26 | awal1 | BlackMage: so you changed your sources.list repositories, from jessie/stable to sid/unstable, and upgraded directly from jessie to sid? |
| 21:32.35 | teraflops | silver_hook: pelican is for static web sites in python? |
| 21:33.01 | silver_hook | teraflops: Yup, and even packaged in Debian. Just unsure about plugins and themes yet⦠|
| 21:33.25 | teraflops | oh I do "wok" for such purposes |
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| 21:33.57 | BlackMage | awal1: yes |
| 21:34.54 | silver_hook | teraflops: wok? Couldnât find it with `apt search`. |
| 21:35.04 | teraflops | it's not packaged |
| 21:35.12 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: Which package does btrbk come with? |
| 21:35.29 | teraflops | silver_hook: https://github.com/mythmon/wok |
| 21:35.38 | awal1 | BlackMage: basically, you got a broken system. support for testing/instable is in #debian-next channel (oftc server), but you may want to paste the output of apt-get -f install (paste.debian.net), almost for fun :P :D |
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| 21:35.59 | MrHyde_ | hey |
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| 21:37.13 | silver_hook | teraflops: Ooooh, OK. Iâm happy with Pelican for now â¦and am *not* migrating again until I get a good reason to do so. |
| 21:37.22 | teraflops | yeah sure |
| 21:37.35 | silver_hook | teraflops: http://matija.suklje.name/5th-incarnation-of-hooks-humble-homepage |
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| 21:39.44 | BlackMage | awal1: #debian-next Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited |
| 21:39.48 | silver_hook | Sooo, if I e.g. install Nextcloud on my own Debian server (not VPS) â¦whatâs the best way? |
| 21:41.19 | awal1 | !debian-next |
| 21:41.19 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 21:41.30 | awal1 | BlackMage: ^ |
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| 21:45.16 | silver_hook | teraflops: Whatâs the reason that you use "__" in your __active and __snapshots (sub)volumes? |
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| 21:47.04 | silver_hook | â¦just easier to tell apart from an subvolumes that should be mounted? |
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| 21:50.03 | teraflops | silver_hook: just following the convention |
| 21:50.33 | silver_hook | Oh, didnât realise that there was a convention for that. Good to know. |
| 21:51.29 | jhutchins_wk | Is anyone else having certificate errors and css rendering problems on chromium 53? |
| 21:52.11 | silver_hook | teraflops: Do you use "commit=" mount options on your ARM based devices? |
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| 21:54.57 | orb | hi all. |
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| 22:05.58 | fuddie | Hello, how do i install packages on debian? I have just installed jessie on a VM? I think dont have any software repositories or anything. For example it says there is no package avalible for emacs or gnome-web. |
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| 22:06.28 | scootergrisen | I have laptop keyboard. When i press Shift+End i want to select the whole line but i get |
| 22:06.36 | abrotman | dpkg: tell fuddie about jessie sources.list |
| 22:06.37 | n4dir | fuddie: you will have to look at the sources list. The full path is /etc/apt/sources list |
| 22:06.50 | n4dir | ah, well, the bot is probably more easy ... |
| 22:06.51 | scootergrisen | i get 7 |
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| 22:06.58 | fuddie | thank you! |
| 22:07.01 | scootergrisen | No 1 i mean |
| 22:07.46 | Plushwolf | Hi. I'd like to ask if my AMD Radeon R9 M275X GPU is supported with non-free drivers? I've done some tests with DRI_PRIME={0,1} ./my_benchmark_program_here etc and have the same FPS ... |
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| 22:08.40 | fuddie | abrotman: what is the repo for most free software? |
| 22:09.28 | abrotman | fuddie: the bot told you |
| 22:09.48 | redrabbit | hi, how can i enable predictable interface naming, so wlan0 and wlan1 don't get mixed up on reboot ? |
| 22:09.54 | Plushwolf | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Venus XTX [Radeon HD 8890M / R9 M275X] [1002:6820] (rev ff) |
| 22:10.14 | Plushwolf | That's the device. I'm wondering, 6820 is CGN 1.0 which isn't supported, no? |
| 22:10.22 | Plushwolf | *GCN |
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| 22:11.08 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: btrbk you compliled yourself or do you use it from a neuroâs repo? |
| 22:11.49 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: I just use the btrbk package from debian |
| 22:11.57 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: Sid? |
| 22:12.38 | l4m8d4 | I am using testing, but in the beginning I used the one from sid because it wasn't available from sid |
| 22:12.42 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: On Jesse I donât see it. |
| 22:12.44 | l4m8d4 | *from testing |
| 22:12.57 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: It seems to be only on testing and sid |
| 22:13.58 | l4m8d4 | But you can just pull it from there, it doesn't have many deps, I think none in testing even. Everything should be satisfied on jessie |
| 22:14.20 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: If I understand APT, I can add testing and get btrbk from there, but still not get other packages bumped to testing, right? |
| 22:14.48 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: Using pinning, you can add the testing source, but not get any packages from there except the ones you specify |
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| 22:14.52 | silver_hook | is finally reading the Debian Handbook, which he proudly co-crowd-funded :) |
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| 22:16.22 | Plushwolf | Any idea for me? |
| 22:16.28 | teraflops | silver_hook: nope |
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| 22:17.26 | abrotman | fuddie: if your internet is not yet working on the VM, it may not work, but we might be able to help you with that |
| 22:17.34 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: You need to add the testing sources, then configure pinning and install btrbk with apt install -t testing btrbk |
| 22:17.43 | fuddie | abrotman, thanks i found the correct repo to add to sources.list |
| 22:17.45 | l4m8d4 | teraflops: yes he can |
| 22:17.57 | silver_hook | teraflops: Armbian uses "commit=600" (and ext4) by default, which I find is quite a long time. Would the COW will be happy about that? |
| 22:18.04 | teraflops | l4m8d4: I meant I dont use commit= |
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| 22:18.36 | l4m8d4 | teraflops: sorry, misunderstood you there |
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| 22:18.37 | frikinz | So I just did a stupid thing : rm -rf /var/ :) It's not a critical machine but still. Is there some kind of hack script to rebuild dpkg status file from /usr/share/doc directories? |
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| 22:18.47 | teraflops | silver_hook: idk to be honest so I keep the defaults |
| 22:19.03 | silver_hook | teraflops: Ah, OK, just wondering :) |
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| 22:19.49 | teraflops | l4m8d4: np |
| 22:20.00 | funkster | need to connect a bunch of debian servers to a openvpn, whats the best way to go about accessing specific servers within the vpn in regards to knowing hostname/ip of servers? |
| 22:20.23 | frikinz | hum http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/package-database-rebuild.html |
| 22:20.38 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: Thatâs what you mean? https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.apt-get.html#sect.apt.priorities |
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| 22:21.37 | gtozzi | Hi there! I am getting the error "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9D6D8F6BC857C906 NO_PUBKEY 8B48AD6246925553" when trying apt-get update and, after trying many methods, I can't manage to add the missing keys... could you please help me? |
| 22:22.35 | abrotman | gtozzi: for which repository? |
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| 22:23.01 | Plushwolf | Hi. I'd like to ask if my AMD Radeon R9 M275X GPU is supported with non-free drivers? I've done some tests with DRI_PRIME={0,1} ./my_benchmark_program_here etc and have the same FPS ... |
| 22:23.12 | Plushwolf | I'm wondering, 1002:6820 is CGN 1.0 which isn't supported, no? |
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| 22:23.19 | gtozzi | abrotman: "Err:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates InRelease" |
| 22:23.23 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: Yes. For unstable, I use a priority of -10 to guarantee that it will not pull unwanted packages from there. |
| 22:23.57 | Plushwolf | gtozzi: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free |
| 22:24.31 | l4m8d4 | I think it will only pull the packages you specify manually, plus their dependencies if not satisfied already. I twon't even update them normally with newer versions from unstable I think |
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| 22:25.36 | gtozzi | Plushwolf: that's my sources.list http://pastebin.com/t5t0DXzt |
| 22:26.02 | teraflops | silver_hook: i prefer getting it from backports (if the package is backported) instead of doing apt pining |
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| 22:26.37 | silver_hook | teraflops: Sure, but it doesnât seem to be in backports |
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| 22:27.37 | l4m8d4 | The nice thing is, once you have the pinning set up, you can always easily pull with apt install -t |
| 22:27.50 | Plushwolf | gtozzi: Use this -> https://paste.debian.net/plain/901616 |
| 22:28.36 | silver_hook | l4m8d4: So, pin all testing with 10, and the testing btrbk with 500? |
| 22:28.51 | teraflops | ,v btrbk |
| 22:28.52 | judd | Package: btrbk on amd64 -- stretch: 0.23.3-1; sid: 0.24.0-1; stretch: 0.24.0-1 |
| 22:29.09 | silver_hook | â¦or rather 100? |
| 22:29.33 | gtozzi | Plushwolf: ty, but i get same error "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8B48AD6246925553 NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010" |
| 22:29.35 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: No, I would ping testing with -10 prio, and then apt update and then apt install -t testing btrbk |
| 22:29.59 | scootergrisen | How do i start the login screen from a console? |
| 22:30.06 | silver_hook | Oh, OK. Iâll try it that way then :) |
| 22:30.13 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: I guess you could then also pin 500 prio for btrbk though |
| 22:30.24 | teraflops | scootergrisen: by login screen you mean DM as in GDM and so on? |
| 22:30.25 | l4m8d4 | silver_hook: That would probably take care of upgrading it |
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| 22:31.04 | scootergrisen | Not sure what its called. The one where i select name and enter password og can select if i want to start GNOME or Xfce session and others |
| 22:31.18 | teraflops | scootergrisen: you have to install one^ |
| 22:31.36 | scootergrisen | Sometimes if i select like GNOME Wayland or something nothing happens and i cant get in. What should i do when that happens? |
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| 22:32.01 | scootergrisen | I already have it i just want to know how to start it when the screen i empty |
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| 22:33.33 | teraflops | scootergrisen: that sounds like GDM but the wayland bit sounds like youre running testing |
| 22:33.38 | teraflops | or even sid? |
| 22:33.59 | scootergrisen | testing but i think had wayland option on stable to |
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| 22:34.22 | satbyy | gtozzi: you can use gpg to search for key fingerprint, like gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --search-keys 8B48AD6246925553 |
| 22:34.30 | scootergrisen | Is it possible to switch from Xfce to GNOME without having to close my windows? |
| 22:34.31 | teraflops | ugh for testing try #debian-next on the ofct irc network first |
| 22:34.44 | scootergrisen | It says invite only |
| 22:34.45 | teraflops | oftc* |
| 22:34.45 | satbyy | gtozzi: in your case, the it seems to be Debian Wheezy |
| 22:35.10 | scootergrisen | Oh that links to freenode |
| 22:35.35 | satbyy | gtozzi: so you're not actually showing the complete sources.list ? |
| 22:35.36 | teraflops | satbyy: it's other network /connect irc.oftc.net then /join #debian-next |
| 22:35.41 | scootergrisen | Can the linked be changed in the channel subject so it links to oftc? |
| 22:35.47 | teraflops | satbyy: sorry |
| 22:36.01 | abrotman | scootergrisen: it says irc.oftc.net .. right behind it |
| 22:36.08 | redrabbit | how do i make sure wlan0 and wlan1 don't get mixed up on reboot ? |
| 22:36.13 | jasabella | shouldnt that be recommending -ssl now? |
| 22:36.26 | scootergrisen | Yeah but if its possible its easier i just click the link |
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| 22:36.49 | satbyy | gtozzi: you cn check if there's some wheezy-related repos in /etc/sources.list.d/ directory as well |
| 22:36.54 | abrotman | redrabbit: that shuld already be happening via udev |
| 22:37.30 | redrabbit | maybe its because i use raspbian :c |
| 22:37.52 | abrotman | they have their own channel, #raspbian |
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| 22:38.14 | gtozzi | satbyy: well, apparantly, that's the whole http://pastebin.com/t8s6nm3c |
| 22:38.14 | redrabbit | i asked there but since its debian based i thought id try here too |
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| 22:40.01 | teraflops | !give redrabbit raspbian |
| 22:40.02 | dpkg | gives redrabbit raspbian |
| 22:40.08 | teraflops | oh :S |
| 22:40.27 | redrabbit | huh |
| 22:40.29 | abrotman | gtozzi: show us the output of "apt-get update", and then the command/error you're getting |
| 22:40.32 | teraflops | anyway raspbian is not debian |
| 22:41.12 | redrabbit | usually what works on debian worked on raspbian too, but heh |
| 22:41.31 | abrotman | "usually" |
| 22:41.32 | redrabbit | you're right |
| 22:41.33 | redrabbit | ^^ |
| 22:41.36 | teraflops | redrabbit: nah |
| 22:41.40 | gtozzi | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/uquStvXE |
| 22:42.53 | abrotman | gtozzi: is the debian-archive-keyring pckage installed and up to date? |
| 22:43.08 | abrotman | thinks that's the right package |
| 22:43.30 | satbyy | gtozzi: after you changed the sources.list, you must run apt-get install debian-keyring |
| 22:44.03 | gtozzi | abrotman, satbyy: yes, it is installed and up-to.date |
| 22:44.08 | satbyy | gtozzi: are you trying to upgrade from wheezy / jessie to stretch ? |
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| 22:44.45 | gtozzi | satbyy: that's a fresh testing (net)install |
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| 22:45.55 | satbyy | problem with the ftp.it.d.o mirror may be ? Try a different one ? |
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| 22:47.41 | gtozzi | satbyy: if i use the generic "ftp.debian.org", it seems to work, but it still fails later |
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| 22:48.17 | gtozzi | maybe i should try to reinstall? |
| 22:48.46 | satbyy | Also cyou could try cleaning sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/ and try again |
| 22:50.35 | satbyy | IIRC think ftp.debian.org just redirects to nearest mirror, hope it wasn't ftp.it.d.o again! |
| 22:51.06 | unborn | !give unborn raspbian |
| 22:51.07 | dpkg | gives unborn raspbian |
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| 22:51.28 | unborn | eh I though it will give me some info :D |
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| 22:51.35 | unborn | remove it please |
| 22:51.36 | abrotman | dpkg: tell unborn about raspbian |
| 22:51.46 | unborn | abrotman: cheers |
| 22:51.51 | gtozzi | satbyy: nope, i tried by deleting that folder, and also by forcing the "us" mirror |
| 22:52.21 | stimp | Dehb (IAN) |
| 22:52.28 | unborn | yeah.. that whats save me some typing :) |
| 22:52.31 | stimp | Please to the free ofificl reposetrory from DEBIAN.ORG INDIA |
| 22:52.37 | stimp | (INDIAA) |
| 22:52.53 | n4dir | gtozzi: i think there is also the debian-keyring (besides the debian-archive-keyring). Check if that is installed too. Perhaps, just shooting |
| 22:53.11 | stimp | keyring.deb [installation guide[ English subtitles HINDI ] |
| 22:53.13 | stimp | (!) |
| 22:53.29 | stimp | 000000000 Yabadabadoo (Flint) stone (please freee) download INDIA the official of an official lukkan99 |
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| 22:53.55 | unborn | stimp: repos are here - accessible from india as well.. i just checked |
| 22:54.15 | gtozzi | n4dir: http://pastebin.com/03tjcNHc |
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| 22:55.19 | gtozzi | well, i'm going for a re-install |
| 22:55.31 | gtozzi | let's hope it works |
| 22:55.37 | gtozzi | ty for help |
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| 22:55.52 | satbyy | gtozzi: you could do this: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <KEYID> |
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| 22:56.56 | MrHyde_ | any idea why startx couldnt start X but lightdm can do it ? |
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| 22:57.47 | gtozzi | satbyy: well, i've done it many times. it seems to change nothing: http://pastebin.com/s8R3qmKE |
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| 22:58.58 | teraflops | MrHyde_: because lightdm went funky there, so take a look at journalctl |
| 22:59.26 | teraflops | oh the other way around sorry it's late |
| 22:59.40 | satbyy | gtozzi: well, whats with [User ID not found] ? Looks like this for me: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/91ca402d/ |
| 23:00.20 | MrHyde_ | teraflops: nothing special with journalctl btw |
| 23:00.26 | gtozzi | satbyy: wel,, have no idea... maybe something went wrong during install? |
| 23:00.39 | n4dir | checking the time with date won't hurt. |
| 23:01.03 | n4dir | though i don't recall running in such problems when my time was wrong. |
| 23:01.44 | satbyy | gtozzi: probably the installation media is compromised. Did you check signature / SHAsum of ISO ? |
| 23:02.13 | gtozzi | satbyy: nope, i supposed it's now time to do it :) |
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| 23:03.17 | teraflops | MrHyde_: if you dont have a ~/.xinitrc file debian uses the alternatives system for starting DE/WM while doing startx |
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| 23:09.36 | MrHyde_ | teraflops: hav a .xinitrc just upgraded some packages and doesnt work anymore ... ill figured out but was just wondering if some had the same issue |
| 23:09.48 | MrHyde_ | weird that lightdm works and not startx anymore |
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| 23:10.21 | teraflops | MrHyde_: that's why I suspect is your .xinitrc file, since Xorg works |
| 23:11.03 | teraflops | MrHyde_: which DE/WM? |
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| 23:13.07 | econdudeawesome | hello all. Having an issue. Just installed debian on my Asus ROG laptop, touchscreen mouse isn't being detected |
| 23:13.12 | econdudeawesome | what can I do? |
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| 23:19.25 | jhutchins | econdudeawesome: https://wiki.debian.org/TabletAndTouchScreen |
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| 23:20.10 | econdudeawesome | jhutchins: sorry, should have said it was a touchpad |
| 23:20.23 | econdudeawesome | not a touchscreen |
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| 23:40.28 | redefine6 | are there any dreamcast emulators in the debian repos? |
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| 23:53.13 | econdudeawesome | I'm back with woes of touchpad not working. I've tried editing the grubfile as suggested in a number of source, with no luck. I'm currently a bit stuck -- any idea how to get my touchpad working on my Asus laptop? What info can I provide |
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| 23:57.49 | unborn | ...not related but for sake of sys out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE |
| 23:59.14 | econdudeawesome | geez, looks like the driver isn't even loaded. I think I might be out of my depth here... |
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