| 00:00.40 | TamaMcGlinn | I'm now removing backports again, with this, because you only live once anyway: dpkg --remove --force-depends $(dpkg-query -W | grep ~bpo | awk '{print $1;}') |
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| 00:02.52 | future28 | I ran backports for 6 months to get the new kernel (back around 3.4 I think) but it was always much more trouble than testing has been. Living on the edge 8) |
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| 00:05.19 | zykotick9 | bazhang: "18:34 < bazhang> no cursing here please REDACT" <- fuck you!!! i'm only saying this _because_ #debian is NOT #ubuntu... and in #d it's assumed everyone is an adult, and can take _some_ adult langauge. there was a bot/statistic about who cursed the worst in #d on a daily basis at one time... |
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| 00:06.05 | bazhang | heh |
| 00:06.10 | zykotick9 | ;) |
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| 00:06.58 | bazhang | you should so have a member cloak by now zykotick9 |
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| 00:07.36 | zykotick9 | bazhang: ? don't i have an fsf cloak from your perspecive? |
| 00:08.01 | bazhang | cough real cloak cough |
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| 00:08.30 | zykotick9 | "real cloak" <- now i'm coughing |
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| 00:08.38 | Chloe | zykotick9: there are some not-yet-adult Debian enthusiasts, but even still, cursing (in moderation) shouldn't offend many. |
| 00:08.38 | bazhang | haha |
| 00:08.57 | zykotick9 | Chloe: +1 |
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| 00:18.07 | future28 | Thanks for the help awal1 (in the next chan) |
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| 00:19.38 | Sabotender | so, I was successful in installing debian to my system |
| 00:19.56 | Sabotender | and of course it was a grub problem :-P |
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| 00:20.50 | Sabotender | this makes me VERY happy |
| 00:20.57 | kisser | yea its like winning the oscar |
| 00:21.20 | Sabotender | now I need to find out how to install the nvidia drivers to the system so I can have hardware acceleration |
| 00:21.34 | Sabotender | kisser: for me, it certainly is |
| 00:21.42 | kisser | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 00:22.07 | kisser | I never used debian as a GUI |
| 00:22.14 | kisser | with GUI |
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| 00:23.40 | Sabotender | kisser: Your card is only supported by a newer driver that will be made available in jessie-backports. :-P |
| 00:23.48 | Sabotender | thats the message I received |
| 00:25.01 | kisser | well i told you i never used GUI |
| 00:25.12 | kisser | i just use terminal and console |
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| 00:25.16 | kisser | and ssh |
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| 00:25.19 | AlexLikeRock | cool kisser |
| 00:26.03 | kisser | soo good luck |
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| 00:26.10 | kisser | in finding the right driver |
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| 00:31.51 | Sabotender | i found it already |
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| 00:32.49 | Sabotender | i personally despise the terminal and console. I only use it when there's no other reasonable way to do it in gui |
| 00:32.54 | Sabotender | okay I need to reboot |
| 00:32.56 | Sabotender | brb |
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| 00:38.27 | Sabotender | wow, everything is nice and buttery smooth |
| 00:38.29 | Sabotender | lol |
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| 00:38.49 | kisser | nvidia worked? |
| 00:39.44 | Sabotender | ooooh yeah baby |
| 00:39.45 | Sabotender | lol |
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| 01:26.33 | rawtaz | hi |
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| 01:26.57 | rawtaz | reading https://wiki.debian.org/DisplayManager and wanting to start a discussion about it, i wonder what the point of a wiki is when you cant edit it easily |
| 01:27.16 | rawtaz | i dont have permission to start even a discussion page on/under that page there |
| 01:27.56 | abrotman | you can create an account and edit |
| 01:28.15 | rawtaz | yeah, as if i want to create an account to add a small piece of feedback about that page ;) |
| 01:28.23 | rawtaz | there's enough accounts in this world already |
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| 01:29.17 | rawtaz | oh well, who cares. |
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| 01:30.55 | awal1 | rawtaz: out of curiosity: what kind of stuff you want to discuss? :P |
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| 01:31.49 | rawtaz | awal1: i just wanted to add that the page would probably be much more understandable to "newbies" if it had a simple graphics showing how the components fit together on a system or two and possibly a network |
| 01:31.58 | rawtaz | simply a very basic graphical overview |
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| 01:32.32 | rawtaz | as it is now, it's a lot of text containing a bunch of concepts/components and it's quite hard to keep them apart and not confuse or mix them up while reading all that text |
| 01:32.39 | rawtaz | thats all really |
| 01:33.20 | awal1 | rawtaz: so you want something like screenshots about the DM's? |
| 01:34.04 | rawtaz | awal1: no, rather a visualization of how the DM, client and server can speak to each other. i mean just the basic scenarios that are described in the text |
| 01:34.23 | awal1 | rawtaz: ok, i get it |
| 01:34.26 | rawtaz | ya know, one conceptual server on the left, a client on the right, etc :) |
| 01:34.38 | awal1 | ok, ok |
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| 01:36.37 | rawtaz | cheers for asking :) |
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| 01:37.22 | awal1 | well, after all you may be right; reading debian docs/manuals/wikis... one end thinking that debian is like for "advanced users" for users who already have an average knowledge about GNU/Linux; the targeted audience isn't the large newbie users |
| 01:37.36 | allizom | Hi, I'm trying to use a Netgear WNDA3200 (ath9k_htc driver) USB Wireless card in Jessie, I can configure it and connect to my network but after some seconds I will not receive any answer from any LAN/internet host anymore. nmcli connection up SSID is able to restore connectivity for some more seconds. Note that iwlist scanning is always able to list my network |
| 01:38.25 | awal1 | but the reality is quite different ;) |
| 01:38.53 | rawtaz | hehe probably :) |
| 01:39.24 | sikun | yawns |
| 01:39.32 | awal1 | arch wiki is great |
| 01:40.41 | awal1 | suse docs too |
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| 01:41.55 | rawtaz | nice |
| 01:42.07 | rawtaz | i guess debians are okay too, it might be that this stuff about x11 is extra confusing |
| 01:42.41 | rawtaz | however, there's one highly annoying thing on the debian site. if i go there, and get swedish as the language due to it detecting that from my browser, and i then click english to get the english page; then whenever i go to a new page it resets to swedish |
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| 01:44.32 | awal1 | that's your browser related (+ locales; ) |
| 01:45.11 | rawtaz | yeah |
| 01:45.24 | rawtaz | but if i explicitly click "hey, i want english", it should keep me on that (the site i mean) |
| 01:45.41 | rawtaz | perhaps im biased, i come from web development among other things, so im used to this being handled |
| 01:46.04 | awal1 | if using firefox, disabling temporally Swedish in addons will make ff detect english pages |
| 01:46.09 | rawtaz | but even if the site doesnt want to set cookies or similar, it could make all links contain the language |
| 01:46.41 | rawtaz | hm, are you saying it is my *browser* selecting the language? isnt it the site looking at the locales my browser advertise? |
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| 01:48.13 | allizom | rawtaz: actually the debian website does this right. You choose your Accept-Language: , the website sends you the right version |
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| 01:48.46 | awal1 | I'm not an expert on all that, of course locales are related, but you can start from looking at the language packs you have for your ff |
| 01:49.16 | rawtaz | that doesnt sound right to me |
| 01:49.28 | rawtaz | where do you change that setting, and why on earth would you have to change it for a specific site? |
| 01:49.34 | allizom | rawtaz: which browser do you use? you should be able to choose your accepted languages |
| 01:49.42 | rawtaz | the site does have language choice links on it, presumably they are supposed to have a function? |
| 01:49.53 | rawtaz | allizom: any browser, firefox, safari, chrome-ish |
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| 01:50.07 | awal1 | try disabling swedish lang pack somewhere in addons and you'll get the wiki page in english "normally" :) |
| 01:50.42 | rawtaz | awal1: then what are the language buttons on the site for, if this is something one should manage through the browser settings? |
| 01:50.49 | rawtaz | s/buttons/links/ |
| 01:51.00 | allizom | for firefox it's in about:preferences#content (Languages) |
| 01:51.07 | allizom | https://www.debian.org/devel/website/content_negotiation.en.html |
| 01:51.37 | rawtaz | allizom: but one might want to use a different language temporarily and thereby not change this for the browser as a whole. and again, then what are the language links for. |
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| 01:52.32 | rawtaz | never mind, i see there's a big page with instructions on how to set the default language for the debian site, ll |
| 01:52.35 | rawtaz | lol* |
| 01:52.49 | awal1 | well, that's what I see and seen here. if i have an extra lang pack installed (-es, sepecifically) ff loads websites in spanish if available; if I use ff without an extra lang pack, so totally in Eenglish, I get into english in almost all website |
| 01:53.32 | awal1 | but sometimes no; locales related I know, but how, I'm clueless right now :P |
| 01:53.50 | rawtaz | oh god. that is just terrible UX.. youre expected to change this in preferences -> content -> language |
| 01:54.28 | awal1 | language buttons? so for switch to another one, instead of the detected one by default |
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| 01:55.10 | awal1 | pref-content-lang helps too right |
| 01:55.10 | rawtaz | here's how it should work, i argue: 1) if the user clicks either of the language links, and then arrives at that language version of the current page, then until further notice the site should keep the visitor on that language (simply by adjusting the links that it outputs accordingly); 2) if the user hasnt selected a specific language using these links, the site should work with the browser's locale thingie that you guys are talking about |
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| 01:55.53 | rawtaz | thats what i see as the most dynamic and UX supporting match of functionality |
| 01:56.35 | awal1 | but changing things that way (pref-content-lang) I almost notice a difference in search engines |
| 01:57.11 | rawtaz | is that an addon? |
| 01:57.27 | awal1 | addon? |
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| 01:57.56 | rawtaz | pref-content-lang |
| 01:57.59 | rawtaz | i guess it isnt |
| 01:58.26 | awal1 | not an addon |
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| 02:00.01 | awal1 | I believe proper websites vs locales, ignoring ff config, are also related as I have been told |
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| 02:02.14 | rawtaz | im writing a mail about it, we'll see what disagreements come from it |
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| 02:14.07 | ksft | or to make it more likely that it'll work |
| 02:14.42 | tables | is there a software center in debian? |
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| 02:51.22 | awal1 | Is it fine for my sound card if I set volume level above 100? |
| 02:52.06 | awal1 | recently youtube videos have a very low volume level, so no choice |
| 02:52.40 | awal1 | so +100 is harmless or harmful? |
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| 04:03.11 | hyddd | you probably forgot to apt-get update |
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| 04:03.41 | hyddd | what's with the X server that doesn't listen on tcp/6000? |
| 04:03.49 | hyddd | like, consistently |
| 04:03.58 | hyddd | and I have like, consistently, patch it |
| 04:04.23 | hyddd | it pretty much ignores any TCP options |
| 04:04.42 | hyddd | the only way to behave is to patch the f*cker |
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| 04:05.01 | hyddd | how come |
| 04:05.20 | hyddd | I want random X services from 6000/tcp |
| 04:05.39 | hyddd | that's what xauth + is for, ain't it |
| 04:06.10 | hyddd | how come those debian people deny me that? |
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| 04:06.37 | hyddd | and I'm forced to patch every and single one of them X packages |
| 04:06.43 | hyddd | that's getting repetitive |
| 04:07.13 | hyddd | to actually respect --listen 6000 |
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| 04:07.29 | hyddd | (the stock version doesn't respect that) |
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| 04:08.06 | hyddd | why and how come is my pointed question |
| 04:08.11 | Eduard_Munteanu | socat TCP-LISTEN:6000 UNIX-CONNECT:/path/to/X/socket ? |
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| 04:08.20 | hyddd | yep |
| 04:08.41 | hyddd | I mean, no, not unless it's patched |
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| 04:09.30 | hyddd | it's a genuine issue, there's a special dude that's fixing all that shit in the debian mailing list |
| 04:09.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | I meant it as a workaround. |
| 04:10.06 | hyddd | I want my X server to be listening on 6000/tcp |
| 04:10.36 | hyddd | i do rather understand the auth model |
| 04:11.02 | hyddd | but removing it altogether since it could lead to compromise seems a tad too much |
| 04:11.20 | hyddd | the fuckers still ship telnet |
| 04:11.31 | hyddd | yet the xauth model is not secure enough |
| 04:11.51 | hyddd | both telnet and telnetd, mind you |
| 04:12.11 | hyddd | I do see a bit of discrepancy |
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| 04:12.34 | hyddd | they ship plain ftp |
| 04:12.47 | hyddd | how is that any different |
| 04:13.31 | hyddd | I nned my Z on 6000/tcp |
| 04:13.34 | hyddd | with xhost + |
| 04:13.45 | hyddd | s/Z/X/ |
| 04:14.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | hyddd, does the workaround I mentioned not work for you? |
| 04:14.23 | hyddd | why the fuck do I have to patch it everytime, recompile it and restart the gdm |
| 04:16.03 | hyddd | Eduard_Munteanu I genuinely don't have a linux machine at hand. but do tell me how does socat fixes the X daemon that just won't listen to 6000/tcp |
| 04:16.37 | Eduard_Munteanu | hyddd, it opens a listening socket on 6000/tcp and forwards connections to the X socket |
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| 04:17.18 | Eduard_Munteanu | I haven't tried it, but it might be a quick fix. |
| 04:17.41 | hyddd | Eduard_Munteanu, that implies there's something to listen for at 6000/tcp |
| 04:17.44 | hyddd | and there's none |
| 04:18.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | hyddd, no, it's socat listening |
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| 04:18.51 | hyddd | so how does it differ from nc -l -p 6000 ? |
| 04:19.16 | hyddd | the actual Xserver is not listening |
| 04:19.16 | Eduard_Munteanu | hyddd, it can connect to a unix socket on the other end, you can probably do it with nc too |
| 04:19.32 | hyddd | it's not listening even on a loopback |
| 04:19.44 | Eduard_Munteanu | hyddd, it is listening on a unix socket, see with netstat |
| 04:19.56 | hyddd | Eduard_Munteanu, well I don't have the "other end", that's the issue |
| 04:20.06 | hyddd | no it's not |
| 04:20.15 | hyddd | netstat -nl confirms that |
| 04:20.19 | Eduard_Munteanu | hyddd, you sure do, how else do local applications connect to X? |
| 04:20.39 | hyddd | well via localhost |
| 04:21.02 | hyddd | I mean to say that it doesn't listen on anything else |
| 04:21.07 | hyddd | lo0 and that's it |
| 04:21.08 | Eduard_Munteanu | Local applications use a unix-domain socket. |
| 04:21.40 | hyddd | spare the details |
| 04:21.45 | hyddd | I know that shit |
| 04:21.58 | hyddd | the X server won't start up listening on eth |
| 04:22.08 | hyddd | basically thtat |
| 04:22.16 | Eduard_Munteanu | So, if you want to make it available on 6000/tcp, you can instruct socat to listen there and connect to that unix-domain socket. |
| 04:22.41 | hyddd | that's not exactly a solution |
| 04:22.46 | hyddd | rather a go-around |
| 04:22.58 | Eduard_Munteanu | *Work*around. ;) |
| 04:23.03 | hyddd | right |
| 04:23.16 | hyddd | do excuse me, I've had like 2 bottles of cognac |
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| 04:23.39 | hyddd | and a random bottle of whatever that was, at 20% |
| 04:24.10 | hyddd | I'm Russian, I live on that shit basically |
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| 04:24.50 | hyddd | still I'd like it to work without socat |
| 04:25.14 | hyddd | there's a patch that I have in bookmarks that applies to basically every verion of X there is |
| 04:25.31 | hyddd | I kind hoped there was an easier solution |
| 04:25.52 | hyddd | s/kind/kinda/ |
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| 04:26.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | hyddd, are you sure you got that right? Maybe you just need -listen tcp |
| 04:26.52 | hyddd | I won't bother with that until the bookmarks until the morning but thanks nonetheless\ |
| 04:27.26 | hyddd | Eduard_Munteanu, the exact issue is that it pretty much ignores that pericular argument |
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| 04:27.44 | hyddd | google that shit, that's not just me |
| 04:28.27 | hyddd | so a good soul provides a patch for basically every version of debian-current shipped X server |
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| 04:28.41 | hyddd | because it's a bug |
| 04:28.56 | Eduard_Munteanu | Yeah, I was doing just that, and it seems they made nolisten default. |
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| 04:29.06 | hyddd | and for whatever reason the debian guys won't fix it. it's been there for more than two years |
| 04:29.09 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hm. |
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| 04:29.50 | hyddd | for all I know, they're enforcing that as a "security measure" |
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| 04:30.43 | hyddd | that's inexcusable, regardless, in my opinion |
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| 04:39.12 | pbrewczynski | Hi. |
| 04:39.48 | pbrewczynski | Trying to connect to debian machine, but I lack knowledge about authentication : https://gist.github.com/pbrewczynski/43bd8e5c3aa7e595bb0f7b77d0f0cb65 |
| 04:40.30 | pbrewczynski | Should I generate fingerprint? |
| 04:40.43 | hyddd | yes, it doesn't accept Polish surnames |
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| 04:41.14 | hyddd | it'a known OpenSSH bug |
| 04:42.04 | hyddd | try rebuilding your key with pbrewczynsov |
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| 04:42.17 | hyddd | obviously, useradd pbrewczynskov |
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| 04:43.05 | pbrewczynski | Iâm not an idiot. But sometimes I wonder whether or not I should assess that. |
| 04:43.44 | hyddd | let's all reflect on that. |
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| 04:44.30 | pbrewczynski | First of all, how do you know itâs polish surname. |
| 04:44.33 | pbrewczynski | ? |
| 04:45.04 | hyddd | nobody else combines z, w, cz and -ski |
| 04:45.23 | hyddd | alright, I'm your friendly Russian neighbor |
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| 04:46.05 | hyddd | and I'm like 25% Polish |
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| 04:46.49 | hyddd | let's play 1939 |
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| 04:47.44 | pbrewczynski | Hm, |
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| 04:48.10 | zionlord | It is in every room of my house. |
| 04:48.20 | hyddd | 1939? |
| 04:48.36 | hyddd | you guys gotta get over it |
| 04:48.40 | zionlord | I bought 16 copies. |
| 04:48.50 | pbrewczynski | started to read topic of this channel. |
| 04:49.08 | zionlord | Translated into English, the PROTOCOLS OF LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION. |
| 04:49.08 | hyddd | the topic is Debian |
| 04:49.36 | zionlord | What are you going to do about it? |
| 04:49.47 | hyddd | okay we're obviously seeing different things. that's obviously what they did for Poles |
| 04:49.52 | hyddd | Poles hate the Jews |
| 04:49.59 | hyddd | so they made the accomodations |
| 04:50.04 | zionlord | I have a right to read what I want to read. |
| 04:50.23 | hyddd | it's "#debian" for me, really |
| 04:50.24 | nedstark | zionlord, just blank stares when i offered that as a holiday party gag gift |
| 04:51.23 | hyddd | at least it's anti-semitic and it ain't anti-polish |
| 04:51.42 | hyddd | I'm guessing you're well tired of that shit |
| 04:52.26 | pbrewczynski | zionlord: How do you know what will you read before you read it? |
| 04:52.42 | hyddd | every pseudo-communist game on steam tends to take place in Poland |
| 04:53.01 | zionlord | I bought the entire supply at Amazon when I put in my 16 orders.. |
| 04:53.12 | hyddd | sometimes you just can't escape the stigma |
| 04:53.25 | zionlord | Cleaned them right out. |
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| 04:53.41 | hyddd | I mean what did you, poles, bring into communism proper? |
| 04:53.44 | pbrewczynski | hyddd: I donât know what you are talking about |
| 04:53.46 | pbrewczynski | actually. |
| 04:53.56 | pbrewczynski | Iâm post-communist child. |
| 04:54.09 | pbrewczynski | And donât care too much actually. |
| 04:54.13 | hyddd | pbrewczynski, communism. |
| 04:54.27 | Rusty1_ | !offtopic |
| 04:54.28 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 04:54.32 | hyddd | you were likely born too late for that particular shit. |
| 04:55.04 | hyddd | claps your hands everybody who's basically 35. |
| 04:55.07 | hyddd | see? |
| 04:55.49 | hyddd | and I'm 35 in two months time |
| 04:56.12 | hyddd | in Moscow proper |
| 04:57.01 | zionlord | It's the most important book I own. |
| 04:57.10 | hyddd | I'm sure you're going to be my Polish friend |
| 04:57.25 | hyddd | you Poles love us Russians |
| 04:57.25 | zionlord | The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. It's all true. 100% factual, accurate. |
| 04:57.54 | hyddd | that was before my time |
| 04:58.00 | hyddd | should I apologize? |
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| 04:58.37 | hyddd | that was proper freaking Tsarist Russia, specifically 1913 or what year was it |
| 04:58.45 | Rusty1_ | !ops please direct hyddd zionlord to appropriate channel |
| 04:58.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: rusty1_ complains about: please direct hyddd zionlord to appropriate channel |
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| 04:59.47 | hyddd | see, they mods don't see us all that different |
| 04:59.53 | pbrewczynski | hyddd: move to the #debian-offtopic |
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| 05:00.14 | hyddd | pbrewczynski, I'll follow you wherever |
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| 05:02.09 | zionlord | We as humans are being conspired against by Zion Lords. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZG5Zfm-FQg |
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| 05:20.45 | nkuttler | what's the debian policy wrt to upgrading packages during freeze when the previously available release is 100% unusable? |
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| 05:22.33 | maskara | which file will be the smallest ? .iso .md or torrent |
| 05:22.45 | maskara | *md5 |
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| 05:26.52 | zionlord | I called myself zionlord because in every room of my home I got a copy of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. |
| 05:27.19 | zionlord | Pisses off the establishment :P |
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| 05:29.16 | zionlord | the hexagram with the sword through is tattooed on my anus |
| 05:29.55 | nkuttler | !ops ^^ |
| 05:29.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: nkuttler complains about: ^^ |
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| 05:31.08 | zionlord | i'm not a white supremacist, i'm goy against zion supremacist conspiracies against humanity |
| 05:31.35 | hyddd | zionlord: why? |
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| 05:31.48 | zionlord | hyddd, why what? |
| 05:31.55 | newcoder | network-manager-openvpn , doesn't run, why? |
| 05:32.01 | newcoder | I've installed it. |
| 05:32.11 | hyddd | <zionlord> i'm not a white supremacist |
| 05:32.12 | newcoder | network-manager-openvpn-gnome |
| 05:32.21 | hyddd | why are you not a white supremacist? |
| 05:32.51 | zionlord | hyddd, supremacy is stupid. |
| 05:32.53 | zionlord | i'm a human being. |
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| 05:33.22 | hyddd | zionlord, yeah, gotcha, now that we past that, why aren't you a white supremacist? |
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| 05:33.51 | zionlord | i just said. |
| 05:34.15 | hyddd | nah, you spewed out a CNN excuse |
| 05:34.31 | hyddd | why aren't you, really? |
| 05:34.51 | hyddd | most of the folks I know are |
| 05:35.58 | hyddd | you don't believe that affirmative action is bad for the country? |
| 05:36.47 | hyddd | I know I do. and I'm not even in the country |
| 05:37.58 | zionlord | hyddd, I don't like supremacy. |
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| 05:38.39 | zionlord | hyddd, Jewish supremacists brought over the Africans to create a more "Jewish" civilization and disempower the native Europeans. |
| 05:39.13 | hyddd | look at that, zion lord doesn't like supremacy |
| 05:39.22 | zionlord | As soon as the Holocaust was being exposed on a massive level they flooded Germany with "migrants" |
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| 05:39.50 | hyddd | zionlord, are you my Zerohedge brother in faith? |
| 05:40.23 | zionlord | the whole cat was out of the bag and then "coincidentally" Germany is the recipient of 10 million young Arab males |
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| 05:41.14 | hyddd | yeah he is |
| 05:41.49 | hyddd | only the "Jews are at it all" kind. |
| 05:42.04 | zionlord | are at what? |
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| 05:43.00 | zionlord | you have to be ignorant, naive, blind, or stupid to not realize that the "1% elite" is a jewish mafia. |
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| 06:03.47 | newcoder | http://www.earthvpn.com/linux-desktop-pptp-setup-guide/, how can I get network manager like this? |
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| 06:05.09 | solrize | maybe i'm confused but i thought there were iso images on debian.org, of debian setups with alternate window managers like MATE |
| 06:05.14 | solrize | i can't find them now |
| 06:05.16 | solrize | any idea? |
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| 06:10.36 | awal1 | solrize: all debian image are here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ |
| 06:10.44 | solrize | thanks |
| 06:10.51 | awal1 | just browse |
| 06:12.07 | solrize | yeah, xfce is here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/8.6.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 06:12.15 | solrize | i don't see mate but at least i wasn't imagining things |
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| 06:12.26 | solrize | 8.6 was in october, is 8.7 coming soon? |
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| 06:13.16 | solrize | sorry september |
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| 06:18.48 | somiaj | solrize: if you add jessie-updates you can get previes if needed. For the most part points release are just a collection of security and bug fixes. |
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| 06:19.12 | somiaj | solrize: so provided you have internet sources you can keep up to date |
| 06:19.18 | solrize | thanks yeah i have crappy internet a lot of the time so i was hoping to get one big download and then install from iso |
| 06:19.38 | awal1 | solrize: you have mate live versions , official & unofficial (official + non-free sfirmwares) http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.6.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
| 06:19.47 | solrize | oh nice |
| 06:19.51 | solrize | thanks |
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| 06:20.59 | awal1 | but if you want mate , it also available here http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 06:21.26 | awal1 | all DE are included in that one |
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| 06:22.22 | awal1 | suitable for offline install |
| 06:22.29 | solrize | oh interesting. should i get all 3 dvd images or is just #1 enough? |
| 06:22.52 | awal1 | 1 is enough |
| 06:23.13 | newcoder | Has anyone used openvpn for pppoe connection? |
| 06:23.17 | solrize | thanks |
| 06:23.49 | solrize | hmm even 1 is more than i can likely download tonight by slow dsl... will try for a cd image |
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| 06:24.59 | somiaj | solrize: the netinstall and only download the packages you need is the more efficent. Though I think the cd images have enough for a basic desktop on them and aren't as big as the dvd ones. |
| 06:25.30 | solrize | yeah i really hate having to download stuff while using the computer though.... my internet is slow and unreliable |
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| 06:26.03 | somiaj | dvd1 will probabaly be more than you need for most things, cd1 will probably contain most of what you need to get started and anything missing can be downlaoded. |
| 06:26.21 | solrize | yeah cd1 is probably enough, and the live disk doesn't mean netinstall right? |
| 06:26.36 | solrize | it's 1gb |
| 06:26.47 | somiaj | I would not suggest the live disk for an installer |
| 06:26.51 | solrize | hmm |
| 06:27.06 | somiaj | it doesn't support efi, and the installer isn't as good (unless you boot into installer mode, which defeats the whole live disk part) |
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| 06:27.58 | solrize | if booting into installer is as good as using the non-live cd, then is there a disadvantage? and do i care about efi? computer is a 3 year old thinkpad |
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| 06:28.24 | somiaj | 3 year old is most likely efi, though they almost all support legacy |
| 06:28.34 | solrize | hmm ok |
| 06:28.36 | somiaj | I personally like efi and gtp partitions. So much nicer to use (though I dont' use lvm) |
| 06:28.47 | solrize | what are those? |
| 06:28.51 | somiaj | but you have to learn something new, booting is not the same with efi as it is with legacy |
| 06:29.38 | somiaj | solrize: the old mbr partition table had limitations. Partitions can only be so big (like 2TB I think) and you can only have 4 primary parititons, but you can turn one primary into an a group of extended partions...and you have to install the boot loader in this very small sector called the mbr |
| 06:29.54 | solrize | yeah i remember that |
| 06:30.11 | somiaj | solrize: gtp is a more modern partion format, much higher partition size, no distinction between primary/extended partitions (can have as many as you like I think -- unsure on max number) |
| 06:30.29 | solrize | ah nice |
| 06:30.39 | solrize | disks on these machines will be 500gb or smaller |
| 06:30.42 | somiaj | solrize: also with efi boot, efi is a fat16 partition that can contain multiple oses at once, and you no longer need a boot loader, you can just use the firmware to select which .efi file to boot form. |
| 06:30.51 | solrize | nice |
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| 06:30.55 | solrize | ok i'm downloading regular cd1 |
| 06:30.57 | somiaj | solrize: yea for most, using legacy has no draw back, I'm just explaining why I like efi and gtp. |
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| 06:31.17 | somiaj | solrize: well for many, (thoughs who don't need >2TB partitions or what ever the limit is, might be 3) |
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| 06:32.10 | solrize | i might care about that for bigger machines in the future.... i have a server with 2x 3tb disks (raid 1) running wheezy and i guess that's why it's partitioned into 1tb and 2tb partitions |
| 06:32.17 | solrize | it's the hetzner default install |
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| 06:32.50 | veek | when will wayland be availiable in debian stable.. as default |
| 06:33.41 | somiaj | veek: I think in stretch some desktops will use it by default. Unsure since I use an old wm and like xorg. |
| 06:33.50 | somiaj | veek: but I think gnome will use it if it is installed by default. |
| 06:34.20 | somiaj | veek: which is the next stable release, scheduled for next summerish (rough guess) |
| 06:34.24 | veek | ah hmm.. same problem here.. i use olwm.. but i've been pondering a switch to something light |
| 06:34.57 | somiaj | unsure if waylend has any simple window managers or not. I will just most likely stick with fvwm until xorg is removed. |
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| 06:36.40 | LinuxNovice | hi, I am new to linux. Hoping to get some acquaintance with the various Linux distros available. |
| 06:36.59 | LinuxNovice | has anybody here heard of Antix Linux? |
| 06:37.15 | somiaj | LinuxNovice: well this is where you can find information about Debian (though if interested in any of the many based on debian distro's, you should go ask the proper channels) |
| 06:37.18 | somiaj | !antix |
| 06:37.18 | dpkg | antiX is a live CD distribution based on <MEPIS>. It is not supported in #debian. http://antix.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
| 06:37.35 | somiaj | LinuxNovice: if you want a generic linux channel, ##linux may be a place to ask your question. |
| 06:38.05 | somiaj | LinuxNovice: my suggestion, use Debian. (: |
| 06:38.23 | LinuxNovice | ok. Just wanted to know whether Debian or any of the various respins of Debian would be better for me. |
| 06:38.56 | LinuxNovice | somiaj, could you please elaborate? |
| 06:40.07 | awal1 | vLinuxNovice: so every night you have a new OS |
| 06:40.11 | somiaj | LinuxNovice: Well I don't know what would be best for you. I find Debian a well tested, stable system that works for lots of things. It can also be configured and customized to what you want to do. |
| 06:40.36 | awal1 | yesterday sparc or something like that, tonight antix, tomorrow ... |
| 06:40.38 | awal1 | :D |
| 06:40.39 | LinuxNovice | ok. |
| 06:40.45 | somiaj | LinuxNovice: but Debian can't do everything, some more specilzed uses, or certain software you may not find in Debian may mean find what suits you. |
| 06:41.35 | LinuxNovice | ok. Was testing the various debian based distros to find the one most suitable for my needs. |
| 06:41.51 | awal1 | LinuXNovice: which OS was your topic last night yet? |
| 06:42.01 | awal1 | :P |
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| 06:42.15 | LinuxNovice | It was Sparky Linux, another debian based distro. |
| 06:42.22 | somiaj | LinuxNovice: well this isn't the place to discuss the various debian based distros out there. I suggest ##linux as a prefered place to talk about comparisions and maybe describe what you need. |
| 06:42.47 | LinuxNovice | ok. Do I need to register there? |
| 06:42.51 | somiaj | LinuxNovice: but if you need help getting Debian configured, feel free to ask questions. |
| 06:43.02 | somiaj | LinuxNovice: i'm unsure if they require registered nicks or not. Isn't to hard to register. |
| 06:44.14 | LinuxNovice | I tried Debian XFCE yesterday on a live usb. I couldn't locate the volume control there. |
| 06:44.39 | awal1 | LinuxNovice: seriously: you will find people in favor of debian, others ubuntu, others slakware, etc, etc, etc. you'll have just to try them all or a few and chose one, depending on your needs |
| 06:44.47 | LinuxNovice | I tried Debian Jesse. |
| 06:45.23 | awal1 | volume control is a plugin you have to add in xfce panel |
| 06:45.41 | awal1 | it's included in panel plugins, just edit the panel and add it |
| 06:45.42 | LinuxNovice | How can I get the volume control on Debian XFCE live USB? |
| 06:45.59 | LinuxNovice | ok. |
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| 06:46.46 | awal1 | well, i dont know about live version; may be the same as the DE metapkg |
| 06:46.50 | LinuxNovice | is Debian suitable for kids or school going children? |
| 06:47.31 | LinuxNovice | Usually children don't want to be bothered much by the CLI. They prefer GUI, I think. |
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| 06:47.51 | awal1 | all your positive questions will be answered YES here; you're in dbian channel, what do you expect to hear? |
| 06:48.01 | somiaj | LinuxNovice: there is a Debian-Jr pure blend configured more for childern. |
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| 06:48.13 | awal1 | also debian edu |
| 06:48.32 | LinuxNovice | Great. They have debian edu also? |
| 06:48.37 | awal1 | clled debian edu I think |
| 06:48.57 | ransur0t | 2nd to the pure blends mentioned |
| 06:49.01 | awal1 | dpkg: ddebianedu |
| 06:49.01 | dpkg | awal1: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 06:49.23 | ransur0t | and you would be surprised at what children can do when given coding/terminal tools ... |
| 06:49.39 | somiaj | debian edu and debian junior are different. Debian junior is for kids, and debian edu is for installing in schools |
| 06:49.53 | awal1 | dpkg: debianedu |
| 06:49.54 | dpkg | Debian Edu is a project that aims to provide a free software distribution that is tailored for educational scenarios such as the class room, the staff room and the administration office. Ask me about <skolelinux>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu |
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| 06:55.36 | solrize | is jigdo still a recommended download method? if yes it would be great if the page said to install it with "apt-get install jigdo-disk" or even if it was included by default. it took some effort to find the apt package |
| 06:56.00 | solrize | it also downloaded much slower than a plain wget but that's a different issue ;) |
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| 06:56.52 | AlexLikeRock | i hate systemD !!! |
| 06:57.00 | solrize | :) |
| 06:57.05 | AlexLikeRock | no mount automatic by normal user |
| 06:57.08 | AlexLikeRock | "not autorized to perform operation " |
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| 06:59.54 | AlexLikeRock | any defender of SYSTEMD to helpme ????!!! |
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| 07:00.54 | AlexLikeRock | i supposed , |
| 07:01.18 | AlexLikeRock | they only are good to introducing BUGS to DEBIAN |
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| 07:02.04 | somiaj | AlexLikeRock: this is not the place to complain. And your question is unclear. Sounds like you need to install an automounter, but I'm unsure what it is you are trying to do. |
| 07:02.31 | AlexLikeRock | i install udisks2 |
| 07:02.35 | AlexLikeRock | no works |
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| 07:06.12 | brimonk | Anyone have any experience with setting up static ips with isc-dhcp-server |
| 07:06.13 | brimonk | ? |
| 07:06.43 | Hestben | brimonk: As in assigning a static IP to a specific MAC-address? |
| 07:07.22 | AlexLikeRock | somiaj, i can mount wit dolphin by ROOT |
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| 07:07.34 | brimonk | Hestben: Yes. |
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| 07:10.12 | LinuxNovice | hello... |
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| 07:11.08 | Hestben | brimonk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/392599/how-to-reserve-ip-address-in-dhcp-server |
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| 07:14.03 | brimonk | Hestben: Thanks! |
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| 07:15.25 | AlexLikeRock | somiaj, im F***K UP i change repos to DEVUAN |
| 07:15.30 | brimonk | Hestben: Would you happen to know what the 'host <name>' is all about? Like, is that the hostname I'm trying to give it, or what? |
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| 07:15.38 | AlexLikeRock | systemD just add Sh**T |
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| 07:19.02 | AlexLikeRock | i will back for my answer somiaj |
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| 07:20.29 | LinuxNovice | hello... |
| 07:20.51 | xXEoflaOEXx | Hello, LinuxNovice |
| 07:21.21 | LinuxNovice | how are you. I think I lost the connection. |
| 07:22.07 | LinuxNovice | I was asking for the most suitable debian for very old laptops. |
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| 07:23.04 | AlexLikeRock | im hir |
| 07:23.07 | somiaj | LinuxNovice: what do you consider very old? Jessie should be fine. |
| 07:23.31 | LinuxNovice | I have a laptop which is more than 10 years old. |
| 07:24.06 | somiaj | LinuxNovice: jessie should run on anything 586+, what is the cpu ram on the laptop? |
| 07:24.07 | LinuxNovice | runs on Intel Celeron M Single core processor with 1.5 Ghz, 2 gb ram and 40 gb hdd. |
| 07:24.24 | somiaj | LinuxNovice: jessie will run on that, you'll want to stick to light weight window manager/de |
| 07:24.55 | LinuxNovice | I tried some lightweight distros. But, offlate the laptop makes too much noise. |
| 07:24.56 | AlexLikeRock | LinuxNovice, i hace Stretch with AMD SEMPRON , 2gb ram |
| 07:25.07 | Hestben | brimonk: It think you can choose 'host <name>' freely. |
| 07:25.17 | AlexLikeRock | HDD, OLDS, they are reject by windows |
| 07:25.34 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.44 | AlexLikeRock | debian are fine |
| 07:26.15 | LinuxNovice | ok. Can I use Debian Jesse with LXDE or LXQT? |
| 07:26.30 | LinuxNovice | will that suit my laptop? |
| 07:26.34 | AlexLikeRock | yes, but MATE are more FULL |
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| 07:26.52 | LinuxNovice | more Full means what? |
| 07:26.54 | AlexLikeRock | you can install ALL desktop and test by your self |
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| 07:27.39 | AlexLikeRock | automount USB Stick , cange easy the DATE/TIME , notifications , etc |
| 07:28.12 | AlexLikeRock | details ... |
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| 07:28.48 | LinuxNovice | and how about XFCE? |
| 07:28.49 | Hestben | brimonk: It seems it would make sense to use the host-name of the machine in 'host <name>'. |
| 07:29.53 | AlexLikeRock | XFCE its heavy , to my LinuxNovice |
| 07:30.15 | AlexLikeRock | you must try by yourself |
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| 07:30.27 | LinuxNovice | is it heavier than Mate? |
| 07:30.35 | LinuxNovice | in your opinion? |
| 07:31.14 | AlexLikeRock | yes LinuxNovice |
| 07:31.33 | somiaj | LinuxNovice: lxde will be the lightes de, with a wm you can get lighter (But then you are basically building your own de out of a wm + configuration) |
| 07:31.38 | LinuxNovice | ok. AlexLikeRock. |
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| 07:32.33 | LinuxNovice | I am a beginner in Linux. Needed something almost like a readymade. |
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| 07:38.07 | AlexLikeRock | somiaj, so... |
| 07:38.11 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:39.00 | somiaj | AlexLikeRock: I don't know how to fix it off the top of my head. I don't use any auto mounting tools. |
| 07:39.20 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:39.26 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:39.34 | AlexLikeRock | ok, somiaj |
| 07:39.51 | somiaj | AlexLikeRock: and when you ask for help, you are 90% complaining, and don't give that detailed of info. |
| 07:39.54 | somiaj | !ask |
| 07:39.54 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 07:40.10 | somiaj | AlexLikeRock: what doesn't work. What have you tried, have you read the docs. What did the docs say to do, what happened, etc. |
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| 07:41.31 | Hestben | AlexLikeRock: And, if people join the discussion at a later stage, it helps to repeat the question |
| 07:42.29 | somiaj | but sounds like you may need to check the policykit settings or that your user is in the right group, maybe the disks group |
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| 07:43.05 | brimonk | Hestben: Would you know what entries I would have in my /etc/networking/interfaces file if I'm giving out static ips? |
| 07:43.20 | somiaj | no not the disks group, just looked up what it was for |
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| 07:43.59 | Hestben | brimonk: You need to have the computer running the dhcp-server have a static IP on the interface where the dhcp-server assigns IP-addresses to other computers |
| 07:45.08 | brimonk | Uh... |
| 07:45.10 | brimonk | Okay? |
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| 07:45.43 | Hestben | brimonk: http://pastebin.com/EACMzYrx |
| 07:46.21 | Hestben | brimonk: It should look like that. Depending on which interface it is, if you have a local dns-server, or put in the one you ISP assigns. |
| 07:46.33 | brimonk | And that's from the machine that has the multiple network interfaces. |
| 07:46.46 | brimonk | I was just going to use Google's. |
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| 07:47.15 | Hestben | brimonk: You can use Google's, but consider the amount of data they collect |
| 07:47.34 | brimonk | Hestben: It isn't for me, it's for a business, and the owner is all pro-google. |
| 07:47.39 | brimonk | So, eh. |
| 07:47.41 | brimonk | Anyways, |
| 07:47.52 | Hestben | brimonk: OK, then. |
| 07:48.39 | brimonk | Wait... do I need to declare the subnet that I'm giving out static ips in ? |
| 07:48.45 | Hestben | brimonk: main thing, you need to specify a valid dns-server, or the clients need to specify their own dns-server, and it would look like they "cannot connect to the internet" without it |
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| 07:50.13 | Hestben | brimonk: I think so. Declare general options for the subnet (dns-servers, etc), and then host-entries for each static ip |
| 07:51.13 | brimonk | Alright, laste question before I go and try everything, how do I define those ethernet devices that these static ips are going to connect to? (like, define them in /etc/net.../interfaces |
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| 07:51.17 | brimonk | ) |
| 07:52.12 | Hestben | brimonk: Do you mean on the client computers? |
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| 07:53.19 | brimonk | No, on the dhcp server. |
| 07:54.17 | Hestben | brimonk: You specify a static IP on the interface on the dhcp-server, where the clients are going to connect to. |
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| 07:54.45 | Hestben | You specify the IP addresses that are assigned to the clients in dhcpd.conf of the dhcp-server |
| 07:55.01 | Hestben | brimonk: does it make sense? Did I understand your question? |
| 07:55.18 | brimonk | You got the question, but I'm not certain what the answer is, |
| 07:55.38 | Hestben | brimonk: It is important that the static IP you assign your server is in the same subnet, as those addresses you assign to the client |
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| 07:56.36 | brimonk | Let's say that I want to give away 10.10.0.100 as an address to a machine. This is on eth3. I'm going to plug in this specific machine that should get 10.10.0.100 into eth3. What should my /etc/network/interfaces entry for eth3 look like <-- that's what I really want to know. |
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| 07:57.16 | Hestben | brimonk: Any address you like, but 10.10.0.100. I would use 10.10.0.1 for the server |
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| 07:58.26 | Hestben | brimonk: And I guess, you use the server as a router as well, so then the "option routers 10.10.0.1" should go in the subnet entry in dhcpd.conf |
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| 07:58.37 | brimonk | Of course. |
| 07:59.12 | brimonk | Now, |
| 07:59.16 | Hestben | brimonk: gl hf. I will go afk for a bit now. Just ask again in the channel if it doesn't work |
| 07:59.30 | brimonk | kk. I'll keep fiddling with it. Thanks for all of your help. |
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| 07:59.45 | Hestben | brimonk: np |
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| 08:05.38 | brimonk | So, is it not allowed to have multiple interfaces on the same subnet? |
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| 08:06.11 | johannix | I'm trying to build a live USB stick for a friend from Debian, any recommendations on how to do it? |
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| 08:07.11 | somiaj | johannix: build in what sense? Do the ones debian provide not suit your friends needs? |
| 08:08.45 | johannix | somiaj: I'm just having a hard time making the disk bootable. His laptop is a Windows machine. I loaded Debian on a thumb drive and can't get it to load on my macbook... |
| 08:09.01 | somiaj | johannix: how do you load it onto a usb drive? What image are you using? |
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| 08:10.35 | johannix | I don't remember exactly, tried about a week and failed, was going to try again tonight... |
| 08:11.08 | brimonk | Hestben: We got everything working. Thanks for your help! |
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| 08:11.26 | somiaj | johannix: what os are you making the usb drive from? |
| 08:12.08 | johannix | Debian |
| 08:12.53 | somiaj | johannix: you should be able to just cp image.iso /dev/sdX where /dev/sdX is the usb device |
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| 08:13.15 | JyZyXEL | % sudo :( |
| 08:13.16 | JyZyXEL | zsh: operation not permitted: sudo |
| 08:13.21 | johannix | that's what I think I tried last time, but the macbook didn't want to load from it... |
| 08:13.26 | JyZyXEL | execve("/usr/bin/sudo", ["sudo"], [/* 67 vars */]) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted) |
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| 08:13.30 | JyZyXEL | how can that be? |
| 08:13.39 | johannix | don't remember the exact error |
| 08:13.40 | somiaj | johannix: the debian live images are only legacy boot, the macbook may be efi boot. |
| 08:13.48 | somiaj | johannix: unsure if you can configure it to be legacy or not. |
| 08:13.49 | johannix | somiaj: ah |
| 08:14.20 | johannix | So the thumb drive might work for the windows machine, but not the macbook? |
| 08:14.21 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: ls -l /usr/bin/sudo |
| 08:14.36 | JyZyXEL | -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 155K Jan 11 2016 /usr/bin/sudo |
| 08:14.38 | somiaj | johannix: provided it is configured to bootlegacy |
| 08:14.50 | JyZyXEL | somiaj: it shows up in red background with white text |
| 08:15.06 | johannix | somiaj: looks like this is a known issue with the mac: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28495/how-do-i-get-my-mac-to-boot-from-an-ubuntu-usb-key |
| 08:15.13 | JyZyXEL | looks like all the commands give the same error |
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| 08:15.27 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: you don't have your drive mounted noexec? |
| 08:15.39 | JyZyXEL | no, this just suddenly started |
| 08:16.17 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: but this happens with all commands? What os do you run? if your libc6, I would try to see if for somereason yoru filesystem got mounted noexec |
| 08:16.25 | somiaj | JyZyXEL: sorry what debian version |
| 08:16.29 | JyZyXEL | apt-get works |
| 08:16.34 | JyZyXEL | jessie |
| 08:16.36 | brimonk | somiaj: You can't just copy it. |
| 08:16.51 | brimonk | somiaj: You'd need to dd it. |
| 08:17.41 | somiaj | brimonk: you can just copy it. |
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| 08:17.47 | brimonk | Hmmm... |
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| 08:18.03 | JyZyXEL | this started after vlc segfaulted |
| 08:18.09 | JyZyXEL | something in the kernel must have gone badly wrong |
| 08:18.16 | somiaj | brimonk: that is even the suggested method in the install guide. The defaults of cp are nicer than dd. You don't need all the power of dd to just copy the image |
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| 08:19.34 | brimonk | somiaj: I'll have to try that out someday. |
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| 08:21.42 | JyZyXEL | how the heck do i reboot this machine without sudo |
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| 08:22.21 | LinuxNovice | Hello... |
| 08:22.57 | JyZyXEL | haha, luckily ssh works so i can ssh root@localhost |
| 08:23.20 | LinuxNovice | Can anybody here tell me which is more lightweight among Mate and Xfce as far as CPU and RAM usage is concerned? |
| 08:23.22 | brimonk | JyZyXEL: Couldn't you just use 'su'? |
| 08:23.29 | JyZyXEL | nope, it said permission denied |
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| 08:24.22 | JyZyXEL | commands work via ssh though |
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| 08:25.42 | LinuxNovice | Helloo.... |
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| 08:26.19 | AlexLikeRock | hi |
| 08:26.23 | AlexLikeRock | LinuxNovice, |
| 08:26.35 | LinuxNovice | hi Alex. |
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| 08:27.04 | LinuxNovice | Can anybody here tell me which is more lightweight among Mate and Xfce as far as CPU and RAM usage is concerned? |
| 08:27.23 | ransur0t | LinuxNovice: roughly speaking, XFCE should hold a slight edge in RAM usage. I've seen some detailed assessments of comparative resource use of said DE's, but again, it will depend on your typical usage patters in the end. I recommend that you make your decision based on which interface you like better ... |
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| 08:28.08 | LinuxNovice | I dont have the means to test them and moreover I am a beginner in Linux. |
| 08:28.45 | LinuxNovice | I don't mind the interface. It just has to be lightweight and faster. |
| 08:29.02 | ransur0t | then since they are very close in resource usage, read up on their strengths and features and choose one -- nothing like trying one out to know if you like it! |
| 08:29.04 | LinuxNovice | has to consume less cpu and ram. |
| 08:29.22 | ransur0t | you can always install both and go back and forth until you make your pick |
| 08:29.51 | LinuxNovice | ok. |
| 08:29.58 | AlexLikeRock | LinuxNovice, , they exist , but , you are novice, YOU CANT USED ! |
| 08:30.19 | zamuro | If looks don't matter, use lxde or openbox. Those are as minimalistic as you can get, and pretty lightweight also. |
| 08:30.20 | AlexLikeRock | they are more complicatted |
| 08:30.51 | AlexLikeRock | openbox = problems for a novice |
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| 08:31.06 | LinuxNovice | Alex, you are right. |
| 08:31.20 | zamuro | AlexLikeRock was about to say that: The downside is that they're not easy to use, though. |
| 08:31.28 | ransur0t | openbox will definitely require some under the hood configuration ... |
| 08:31.33 | LinuxNovice | That's why I want to choose between XFCE and Mate. |
| 08:32.36 | AlexLikeRock | dont choose |
| 08:32.48 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:32.52 | zamuro | LinuxNovice I would go with xfce, but my opinion is biased: I've been using xfce for about 10 years now :P |
| 08:33.01 | AlexLikeRock | they not make a conflict |
| 08:33.13 | ransur0t | I think you're choice will be dictated by how much you like the menu navigation and configuration options for each one |
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| 08:33.47 | LinuxNovice | So, I can use both? Can I expect to see the difference in performance however little it may be. |
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| 08:34.13 | zamuro | Sure. They're not muttualy exclusive. |
| 08:34.14 | ransur0t | you should, or you can monitor it as you use it ;) |
| 08:34.21 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
| 08:34.29 | ransur0t | if you want hard numbers ... |
| 08:34.35 | LinuxNovice | That's great. |
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| 08:34.56 | LinuxNovice | Thanks guys. For your inputs. |
| 08:35.13 | AlexLikeRock | you can choose at LOGIN |
| 08:35.16 | AlexLikeRock | look ... |
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| 08:35.26 | AlexLikeRock | https://scottlinux.com/wp-content/gallery/kde_wheezy/04_kde_debian.png |
| 08:35.40 | LinuxNovice | ok |
| 08:35.41 | AlexLikeRock | they are KDE and GNOME |
| 08:35.56 | salato | hi, is there a way to check what cron.d entried will run? I have a cron file with two lines with two command definitions, in syslog I see the first one but not the second but no errors, a way to check if the command will run would be useful |
| 08:36.39 | ransur0t | you can execute the job manually ... and also check for failure/success messages in /var/mail |
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| 08:37.20 | ransur0t | salato: ^^ |
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| 08:38.42 | salato | ransur0t: how, rebember that is a crontab file and not a script in cron.daily or similar |
| 08:39.14 | ransur0t | the crontab job entries will list the scripts and paths referenced, right? |
| 08:39.24 | ransur0t | or other such commands ... |
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| 08:41.15 | ransur0t | you can always pastebin your crontab ;) |
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| 08:43.13 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 08:44.21 | AlexLikeRock | hi darxmurf |
| 08:45.07 | darxmurf | somebody is using "terminator" under testing ? |
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| 08:47.41 | AlexLikeRock | what about darkalia ? |
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| 08:50.58 | somiaj | ls |
| 08:51.23 | darxmurf | . |
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| 08:51.27 | darxmurf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:56.42 | newcoder | I don't have any swap partition, is there any problem, I have 4GB ram, still 2.5GB free from ram |
| 08:57.52 | darxmurf | depends what you want to do with your machine |
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| 08:58.29 | darxmurf | for basic use I would say it's ok |
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| 08:58.50 | darxmurf | if you want to run 100 app in the same time and lauch heavy calculations it wont work |
| 08:59.04 | darxmurf | or you can just buy 4Gb more, it will cost nothing and will help a bit :-) |
| 08:59.39 | newcoder | darxmurf: I have always 1GB free from ram in any case |
| 09:00.30 | newcoder | More than 1GB free |
| 09:00.56 | darxmurf | so, it's fine |
| 09:01.15 | darxmurf | but anyway, 4Gb more will not make you poor :-) |
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| 09:02.18 | newcoder | Isn't that bloated? |
| 09:02.24 | newcoder | Or waste? |
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| 09:04.56 | darxmurf | are you running a 32bit system ? |
| 09:04.58 | darxmurf | or 64 ? |
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| 09:05.01 | newcoder | 32 |
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| 09:06.32 | newcoder | Is swap only used when the ram is fully used and no space remaining in ram? |
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| 09:12.30 | darxmurf | well, if 32, keep your 4gb |
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| 09:15.03 | Cattrick | newcoder: you dont need a partition for swap. it can be a file which you create with dd |
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| 09:18.09 | MostIntZombie | Dang 35 yrs old as of the past hour... |
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| 09:18.21 | darxmurf | Cattrick: tru |
| 09:18.22 | darxmurf | e |
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| 09:19.37 | Cattrick | turns into a gogo girl and dances around MostIntZombie with a candle - happy birthday! |
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| 09:22.28 | darxmurf | will just shake frankly your hand MostIntZombie |
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| 09:34.48 | Sabotender | hi any particular reason why a fs mounted in the terminal doesn't appear in the DE sidebar? |
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| 09:44.02 | Cattrick | Sabotender: it would be nice when you focus on 1 help channel at a time |
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| 09:45.19 | Sabotender | Cattrick: no one is answering in the other channel, it appeared to be dead, at least for my concerns. I find it interesting that instead of answering a question, you decided to point that out |
| 09:45.24 | MostIntZombie | anyone around excited an exclusive martial artist opportunity from a techy? |
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| 09:45.50 | Sabotender | it is odd, 'open as root' is missing from my DE context prompt |
| 09:46.24 | Cattrick | Sabotender: i still remember your words from some hours ago where this channel was not good enough |
| 09:46.33 | darxmurf | Anybody tried a RAID card firmware upgrade while it was rebuilding an array ? |
| 09:46.44 | nkuttler | Cattrick: how does that help? |
| 09:47.08 | Cattrick | nkuttler: it hopefully helps to avoid that anybody supports him |
| 09:47.14 | MostIntZombie | darxmurf: that would seem very stupid unless doing the rebuild on a testing team not caring about the data |
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| 09:47.40 | darxmurf | It's not really a rebuild in fact, it's an extension |
| 09:47.50 | darxmurf | I added 2 disks on a 10hdd raid 6 |
| 09:47.53 | Sabotender | I never said that. I said that I was upset with debian itself, out of five hours of frusturation, not this channel. But I was able to get debian to work, discovered an issue with grub, of course :-P it was being written to the wrong area |
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| 09:48.13 | darxmurf | and this boy is "rebuilding" soooo slow that I'm wondering if it would speed up with the new firmware |
| 09:49.30 | Sabotender | so it appears that your memory of my words is a bit shoddy. anyway, I am moving past that drama and on to other things |
| 09:49.47 | jelly | darxmurf, that sounds extremely unwise |
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| 09:53.07 | ws2k3 | i have a debian 7 machine and df-h shows me my disk is full but i cant seem to find where the data is exacly how should i do this? |
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| 09:53.35 | ws2k3 | i tryed with du -h on all my folders in / but none of them have so much disk space in use |
| 09:54.30 | david__ | if you have a GUI you could try baobab |
| 09:54.45 | ws2k3 | no i dont have a gui cli only |
| 09:55.26 | darxmurf | jelly, MostIntZombie, I'll wait monday the rebuild should be done by that time :-) |
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| 09:56.03 | darxmurf | ws2k3: which disk is full ? |
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| 09:57.06 | ws2k3 | darkalia / |
| 09:57.22 | ws2k3 | darxmurf / my system only has one disk |
| 09:58.15 | ws2k3 | darxmurf and i can now chose to reboot the machine and probarly it will be gone the. but i already had this issue before so i need to find out why this is happening |
| 09:58.29 | ws2k3 | darxmurf rootfs 48G 47G 0 100% / |
| 09:59.02 | AlexLikeRock | ws2k3, try # du -h / | sort -rh |
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| 09:59.24 | darxmurf | from your root account |
| 09:59.24 | AlexLikeRock | ws2k3, du -h /var | sort -rh |
| 09:59.46 | ws2k3 | AlexLikeRock can i add an exclude to this du -h? cause my /data is an nfs mount |
| 10:00.03 | darxmurf | ws2k3: from / you can also try du -shc * |
| 10:00.08 | ws2k3 | 599M/var |
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| 10:01.14 | darxmurf | ws2k3: --exclude=data |
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| 10:01.43 | ws2k3 | darxmurf 3.2Gtotal |
| 10:01.55 | ws2k3 | darxmurf is what du --exclude=data -shc * shows me |
| 10:02.08 | darxmurf | from / ? |
| 10:02.18 | ws2k3 | darxmurf yes |
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| 10:02.34 | ws2k3 | darxmurf root@hostname:/# du --exclude=data -shc * |
| 10:02.45 | darxmurf | do you have any daemons running like apache or I don't know ? |
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| 10:02.58 | ws2k3 | darxmurf nope only php-cli is installed further nothing |
| 10:03.46 | darxmurf | no open files you deleted ? |
| 10:04.00 | darxmurf | or fat log file you deleted too ? |
| 10:04.00 | ws2k3 | darxmurf not sure what you mean exacly |
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| 10:04.25 | ws2k3 | darxmurf n i deleted nothing cause i could not find anything big |
| 10:04.32 | darxmurf | I had this issue with a huge log file I deleted but did not restart the deamon which was filling it |
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| 10:04.47 | darxmurf | so, the file was not existing anymore but still there because of the process running |
| 10:05.01 | darxmurf | so, try to reboot :-) |
| 10:05.06 | ws2k3 | darxmurf maby some php crons keep hold on the data |
| 10:05.19 | ws2k3 | darxmurf well i am sure i had this issue before so thats why i wanne find out what this is |
| 10:05.24 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:05.25 | ws2k3 | ofcrouse i can reboot but then i will dont know |
| 10:05.29 | darxmurf | it ca be but 40Gb is a bit big for pgp :-) |
| 10:05.34 | darxmurf | php |
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| 10:05.45 | ws2k3 | AlexLikeRock 599/var |
| 10:06.05 | darxmurf | do you have some non normal process running when you |
| 10:06.06 | darxmurf | ps auxf |
| 10:06.07 | darxmurf | ? |
| 10:07.15 | Sabotender | okay so I just pulled the drive and plugged it into another computer to see if I would have the same read only issue, and I was able to modify files just fine, even deleted some |
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| 10:07.43 | Sabotender | I am trying to figure out why the drive is mounting as read only and popping out errors in dmesg on my main computer, also my clock is wrong |
| 10:07.52 | ws2k3 | darxmurf no |
| 10:07.53 | darxmurf | ws2k3: by the way, when you do the du from /, it's dispolaying each folder size, everything if normal there ? |
| 10:08.05 | darxmurf | displaying |
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| 10:08.16 | kayhayen | Sabotender: i didn't see where you say what kind of disk and filesystem it is |
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| 10:08.28 | ws2k3 | i also killed all php processes to make sure its not php thats keeps something open |
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| 10:08.55 | Sabotender | kayhayen: pardon. it is an external drive and there are multiple partitions on it with various file systems |
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| 10:09.23 | Sabotender | FAT32, HFS+, EXT4, CRYPTO |
| 10:09.28 | kayhayen | Sabotender: and it says in dmesg that it is re-mounting as ready only, or what? |
| 10:09.37 | Sabotender | yeah |
| 10:10.10 | kayhayen | Sabotender: chat the log messages that you got to me privately, i will look at them |
| 10:10.38 | kayhayen | ah, uh, or pastebin it or whatever :) |
| 10:10.49 | AlexLikeRock | du -h /home |
| 10:11.02 | AlexLikeRock | ws2k3, |
| 10:11.04 | Sabotender | hehe I understood you ;-) give me a moment. there might be duplicate entries in dmesg paste I will send you |
| 10:11.25 | darxmurf | ws2k3: could you please pastebin the result of: du --exclude=data -shc /* |
| 10:11.30 | darxmurf | and df -hT |
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| 10:11.46 | ws2k3 | darxmurf i rebooted the machine cause this needed to be resolved quickly |
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| 10:12.04 | darxmurf | ah |
| 10:12.08 | ws2k3 | darxmurf after reboot rootfs 48G 3.4G 42G 8% / |
| 10:12.12 | darxmurf | voilà |
| 10:12.13 | ws2k3 | so now its normal again |
| 10:12.35 | darxmurf | there was probably a lock file somewhere |
| 10:13.57 | darxmurf | next time you can also try: lsof -nP | grep "deleted" |
| 10:14.55 | Sabotender | kayhayen: there's nothing um, private in a dmesg output, is there? I did a quick look over and I didn't really see anything sensitive |
| 10:15.29 | kayhayen | normally not, not sure about crypto, but if you can't trust a random stranger, how can you? :) |
| 10:15.33 | Sabotender | I was just going to send you the entire dmesg output :-P |
| 10:15.39 | kayhayen | eh, who can you |
| 10:15.55 | kayhayen | i know mine would be safe :) |
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| 10:17.19 | Sabotender | kayhayen: any particular pastebin you would like me to use? |
| 10:17.32 | Sabotender | I know some people frown at me using something like pastebin.org |
| 10:17.33 | kayhayen | i don't care |
| 10:17.36 | Sabotender | yay |
| 10:18.09 | buu | Is there a way to permanently assign a MAC addr to a network card? |
| 10:18.26 | buu | Or even do it on boot before udev runs.. |
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| 10:18.32 | buu | maybe I should just replace it |
| 10:18.46 | Sabotender | okay querying you now |
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| 10:20.29 | kayhayen | seems private message won't work here anymore... IRC is not what it used to be :) |
| 10:20.32 | babilen | buu: Sure, just write a suitable udev rule |
| 10:21.03 | babilen | kayhayen: There were a couple of issues with private messages recently. It is, however, up to the receiver to decide if they want to receive them or not |
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| 10:23.39 | Sabotender | yeah, I have +g because im an op in another channel and trolls like to...well, troll |
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| 10:25.36 | buu | babilen: please point me at some docs |
| 10:26.14 | babilen | buu: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules + Google for "writing udev rules" |
| 10:26.57 | buu | babilen: How do you identify the device though? |
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| 10:27.19 | babilen | Typically by MAC |
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| 10:30.05 | buu | babilen: ... it doesn't have a mac |
| 10:30.30 | babilen | Your NICs don't have a MAC? |
| 10:30.58 | darxmurf | it would surprise me ^^ |
| 10:31.02 | babilen | likewise |
| 10:31.22 | buu | It sure as hell surprised me |
| 10:31.33 | buu | Does 00:00:00:00:00:00 count as a mac? |
| 10:31.39 | babilen | You are aware how ethernet works, aren't you? |
| 10:32.04 | darxmurf | buu what kind of card/machine is it ? |
| 10:32.17 | buu | uh |
| 10:33.00 | buu | rtl8111 |
| 10:33.08 | darxmurf | what's the output of: ip addr show |
| 10:33.08 | darxmurf | ? |
| 10:33.31 | buu | darxmurf: which part? |
| 10:33.39 | jelly | all the parts |
| 10:33.42 | buu | link/ether: 00000000000 brd:fffffff |
| 10:33.42 | darxmurf | yep |
| 10:33.45 | jelly | !paste |
| 10:33.45 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 10:33.53 | buu | The machine isn't on the network =[ |
| 10:33.57 | buu | BECAUSE IT HAS NO MAC |
| 10:34.11 | darxmurf | what's the name of your ETH interface ? |
| 10:34.15 | darxmurf | EHT0 I suppose ? |
| 10:34.16 | SynrG | driver issue? |
| 10:34.20 | buu | eth0 |
| 10:34.21 | darxmurf | ETH0 sorry |
| 10:34.22 | darxmurf | ok |
| 10:34.28 | jelly | buu, save the output onto a usb stick |
| 10:34.28 | AlexLikeRock | this it a joke ? |
| 10:34.32 | AlexLikeRock | " ~/.config/Trolltech.conf " |
| 10:34.38 | jelly | buu, or make a screenshot |
| 10:34.40 | SynrG | AlexLikeRock: no |
| 10:34.44 | AlexLikeRock | TROLL - Tech |
| 10:34.48 | AlexLikeRock | LOL |
| 10:34.49 | SynrG | AlexLikeRock: that's a legitimate company |
| 10:34.56 | AlexLikeRock | that scarry me |
| 10:35.01 | jelly | AlexLikeRock, that's the company who made Qt and KDE |
| 10:35.13 | darxmurf | that's why ^^ |
| 10:35.14 | jelly | which* |
| 10:35.34 | AlexLikeRock | hahah |
| 10:35.36 | darxmurf | buu, so, under the eth0 line, the is this link/ether: .... |
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| 10:35.49 | darxmurf | and there, you have this 00:00:00:00 ? |
| 10:36.16 | babilen | buu: What's the pciid? (alphanumerical identifier, lspci -nn|grep -i network would list it at the end in brackets) |
| 10:36.42 | darxmurf | or lspci -nn|grep -i eth |
| 10:37.06 | MostIntZombie | i guess my path is maybe to advacne in power alone |
| 10:37.30 | buu | darxmurf: yes, the link/ether is 000../ff..; |
| 10:37.34 | babilen | Ah, yeah .. "|grep -i ethernet" is better :) |
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| 10:37.41 | darxmurf | :-) |
| 10:37.50 | babilen | Stupid muscle memory |
| 10:38.34 | buu | https://transfer.sh/QgG4p/ip.txt |
| 10:38.41 | SynrG | someone here with a similar issue. mac appears as 00000000 until interface is brought up: https://communities.intel.com/thread/54288 |
| 10:38.42 | buu | ha |
| 10:38.50 | SynrG | strangeness |
| 10:38.52 | darxmurf | buu are you sure about this 00:00:00:00 is under the eth part and not under the "lo:" ? (sorry I prefer to be sure) |
| 10:38.55 | darxmurf | god... |
| 10:38.58 | buu | darxmurf: see paste |
| 10:39.01 | buu | oh |
| 10:39.04 | darxmurf | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:39.06 | darxmurf | I see yes |
| 10:39.09 | buu | lol |
| 10:39.17 | buu | I manually set the mac addr so it would get on the network |
| 10:39.18 | darxmurf | or not lol |
| 10:39.19 | babilen | buu: Where exactly does it have no mac? |
| 10:39.26 | buu | ... |
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| 10:39.51 | babilen | buu: fwiw, the pciid might still be helpful |
| 10:39.55 | buu | The one ending in :52 was :00:00 until I manually set it using ip link set ... ; |
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| 10:40.14 | jelly | MostIntZombie, could you please stick to tech support in here. There's #debian-offtopic or ##chat if you want to chat about topics diverse |
| 10:40.42 | darxmurf | so then what's the output of lspci ? |
| 10:40.45 | buu | https://transfer.sh/rNHbQQ/lspci.txt |
| 10:40.57 | buu | (fucking case sensitive urls) |
| 10:41.04 | darxmurf | not found |
| 10:41.06 | buu | https://transfer.sh/rNHbbQ/lspci.txt |
| 10:41.09 | buu | agh |
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| 10:41.27 | babilen | One more try |
| 10:41.39 | darxmurf | hit me baby one more time ... |
| 10:41.47 | buu | This is amusingly difficult |
| 10:42.02 | buu | https://transfer.sh/X3Tm/lspci.txt |
| 10:42.49 | babilen | buu: And now the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i ethernet" please (or just the pciid) |
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| 10:43.48 | buu | https://transfer.sh/NzoVj/lspci.txt (-vvv) |
| 10:43.51 | darxmurf | did you install the firmware-realtek package ? |
| 10:44.02 | babilen | While you are at it: Is this an integrated NIC on your mainboard or a riser card ? |
| 10:44.11 | buu | card |
| 10:44.32 | babilen | buu: Where is the pciid id there? |
| 10:44.33 | buu | darxmurf: yes |
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| 10:44.34 | jelly | buu, uhh, can you show lspci -nn, not -vvv ? |
| 10:44.37 | buu | babilen: my bad |
| 10:44.43 | buu | I had already pasted it! |
| 10:44.46 | darxmurf | buu are you using the card or the embedded ? |
| 10:44.52 | darxmurf | integrated |
| 10:45.40 | buu | https://transfer.sh/xyzuH/lspci.txt |
| 10:45.45 | buu | darxmurf: the riser |
| 10:46.02 | darxmurf | so, the atheros ? |
| 10:46.07 | buu | The integrated one is ATHEROS KILL E220X |
| 10:46.10 | darxmurf | ah ok |
| 10:46.17 | babilen | And you do have firmware-realtek installed? |
| 10:46.23 | jelly | ,pciid 10ec:8168 |
| 10:46.24 | judd | [10ec:8168] is 'RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'r8169' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8168 |
| 10:46.51 | buu | babilen: correct |
| 10:46.54 | jelly | that thing may or may not need firmware |
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| 10:47.10 | jelly | buu, which kernel is running? |
| 10:47.14 | mrrhq | With RealTek, you never always know. |
| 10:47.19 | mrrhq | But most of them do. |
| 10:47.32 | buu | r8169 is loaded.. 3.13.36-deb8u2 |
| 10:47.34 | jelly | mrrhq, copper eth? no, not really |
| 10:47.36 | babilen | I'd try a backported kernel and newer firmware pacakge |
| 10:47.43 | babilen | 3.13 ? |
| 10:47.46 | jelly | fuck is 3.13.36-deb8u2 |
| 10:47.51 | babilen | buu: Where is that kernel from? |
| 10:47.53 | buu | whatever uname -v said |
| 10:47.58 | mrrhq | Well if it's Ethernet, it should work. |
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| 10:48.03 | jelly | 3.16.36, typo |
| 10:48.15 | jelly | so oka,y that'd be a normal jessie kernel |
| 10:48.45 | darxmurf | buu are you sure the card is working ? |
| 10:48.48 | buu | It's from package linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 |
| 10:48.53 | buu | darxmurf: Yes, it's the only one plugged in |
| 10:49.04 | jelly | might just be broken hardware |
| 10:49.08 | buu | jelly: oh, .16, sorry |
| 10:49.16 | darxmurf | non but is it a new card or an old one ? |
| 10:49.20 | buu | I mean, it works fine once I assign it a mac |
| 10:49.26 | darxmurf | ah ok |
| 10:49.26 | buu | shrugs |
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| 10:50.17 | darxmurf | https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-P-Y-and-Z-series/Z580-BIOS-update-and-no-LAN-MAC-Adres-00-00-00-00-00-00/td-p/1817289 |
| 10:50.44 | darxmurf | apparently it can happens ^^ |
| 10:50.57 | buu | well |
| 10:50.59 | buu | That's one wya to do it |
| 10:51.38 | darxmurf | and this card was working before ? |
| 10:51.44 | buu | well |
| 10:51.45 | darxmurf | I mean, on another machine or something ? |
| 10:51.49 | buu | For some definition of working |
| 10:51.49 | babilen | Also "before what" ? |
| 10:51.54 | buu | ^ |
| 10:52.08 | darxmurf | or did you find it in a bin last week and just want to try it now ? |
| 10:52.11 | babilen | buu: You tell us please :) |
| 10:52.20 | buu | I never brought up "before".. |
| 10:52.32 | buu | It's been in the machine since I bought it.. I think |
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| 10:52.43 | buu | It's been like 2 years so I kinda forgot |
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| 10:52.45 | darxmurf | 2nd hand stuff or new one ? |
| 10:52.49 | buu | new.. |
| 10:52.52 | babilen | This is the first time I ran into this and I'd still try a new kernel and firmware |
| 10:53.05 | babilen | I'd also return that NIC .. it's most pesky |
| 10:53.06 | buu | I mean, it's been randomly losing its mac for like 6+ months now |
| 10:53.20 | buu | I only really notice when I have to reboot and usually I don't reboot |
| 10:53.22 | darxmurf | well, kick it out and plug a new one |
| 10:53.26 | babilen | randomly losing its MAC? |
| 10:53.31 | babilen | That sounds like broken hardware |
| 10:53.37 | darxmurf | a bit yes ^^ |
| 10:53.53 | mrrhq | I just want to say, I am officially done with Lenovo laptops forever. Every single laptop locks down the BIOS, and decideds what hardware you can and cannot use. |
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| 10:54.03 | mrrhq | It's like passive harrasment on my being. |
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| 10:55.04 | darxmurf | well, now they are completly sealed so, problem solved ^^ you can't open then to change hardware :x |
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| 10:55.36 | buu | Yeah normally I'd agree but I haven't had a laptop I could open in many moons |
| 10:56.01 | buu | Installing a new network card is so boring though |
| 10:56.11 | darxmurf | so, buu, kick this network card out and plug a new one |
| 10:56.23 | buu | I'm sure that's not the linux spirit in action |
| 10:56.30 | buu | There has to be some horrifying udev rule that assigns it a mac |
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| 10:56.52 | darxmurf | well, if your hardware is dead, linux spirit or not, it's still dead |
| 10:57.14 | buu | But it's not dead! |
| 10:57.19 | darxmurf | and anyway, it's lunch spirit now, see you later \o/ |
| 10:57.23 | buu | haha |
| 10:57.29 | buu | It's bedtime spirit here |
| 10:57.32 | darxmurf | well, a card loosing it's MAC randomly is dead for me |
| 10:57.51 | buu | picky picky |
| 10:57.55 | darxmurf | nop |
| 10:58.19 | buu | (As I replace a harddisk for the 16th time) |
| 10:58.24 | darxmurf | just no time to waste tith random problems :-) |
| 10:58.30 | buu | oh hey |
| 10:58.35 | darxmurf | with |
| 10:58.38 | buu | How do I make linux look for a hotplugged disk? |
| 10:58.42 | buu | hdd |
| 10:58.49 | darxmurf | reboot :D |
| 10:59.30 | Sabotender | hello all, it was determined that the I/O error is probably a software issue, and it was suggested that I update the kernel to something like 4.8 what is the best way to upgrade the kernel on my computer? |
| 10:59.43 | darxmurf | buu: http://serverfault.com/questions/5336/how-do-i-make-linux-recognize-a-new-sata-dev-sda-drive-i-hot-swapped-in-without |
| 10:59.46 | darxmurf | have a look here |
| 11:00.32 | buu | ty |
| 11:00.32 | Sabotender | I am currently using vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 |
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| 11:01.01 | buu | Oh, hey, linux found it automatically |
| 11:01.07 | buu | yay linux |
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| 11:02.32 | darxmurf | Windows would find it too... |
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| 11:02.55 | buu | Yes but I'm always more excited when linux actually works.. |
| 11:02.57 | Sabotender | I would like to do this right the first time, and not bungle around trying to follow an (possibly) outdated internet guide |
| 11:03.32 | buu | Sabotender: Uh, add debian-backports repo and install one? |
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| 11:05.13 | buu | Sabotender: https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/linux-image-4.8.0-0.bpo.2-s390x |
| 11:05.14 | mrrhq | Yeah, specifically stable-backports, or jessie-backports, dependng on what stanzas you use. |
| 11:05.21 | buu | shrugs |
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| 11:05.23 | babilen | dpkg: tell Sabotender -about bdo kernel |
| 11:05.26 | Sabotender | mind pointing me to a guide which will help me with this step by step. I really don't want to accidentally hose my system, its a crypto partition. There's already a risk that my internet and video drivers would not work when I upgrade the kernel |
| 11:05.38 | Sabotender | oh, |
| 11:05.59 | babilen | Also pull in firmware from there if you have/require it |
| 11:06.44 | Sabotender | not sure how, to be honest. |
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| 11:06.55 | mrrhq | Stable systems are harder to hose. Besides, it will save/backup a couple extra kernel versions for you. |
| 11:07.02 | buu | ^ |
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| 11:07.06 | mrrhq | So updating the kernel shouldn't be so bad. |
| 11:07.07 | buu | You can always reboot into the previous kernel |
| 11:07.09 | Sabotender | this is why I need step by step guides, I will try to find one |
| 11:07.12 | buu | As long as you're using apt |
| 11:07.16 | Sabotender | yeah I am using apt |
| 11:07.32 | buu | Sabotender: It's literally just https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 11:07.36 | mrrhq | (not aptitude. :p) |
| 11:07.42 | buu | Add the apt line, apt-get install linux-image-4....; reboot; |
| 11:07.52 | buu | It will either succeed and work or fail and rollback |
| 11:08.46 | mrrhq | apt-get install -t jessie-backports linux-image-$(uname -r) |
| 11:09.52 | babilen | Also run "aptitude search '~i~nfirmware' and pull in those packages from jessie-backports |
| 11:10.11 | mrrhq | Well, whatever arch you use, usually amd64. |
| 11:10.35 | Sabotender | sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-image-4.8.0-0.bpo.2-s390x ? |
| 11:10.55 | mrrhq | What kind of computer are you using, there? |
| 11:11.00 | Sabotender | amd64 |
| 11:11.02 | SynrG | wtf? yeah |
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| 11:11.12 | mrrhq | Then it's amd64, not s390x. |
| 11:11.49 | SynrG | hence uname -r. if that's giving you s390x you're not on the right system :) |
| 11:12.17 | mrrhq | I did it wrong actually, uname -r gives the release of the current kernel. It was a mistake. |
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| 11:13.12 | SynrG | ah, there's a recipe in a factoid that parses it |
| 11:13.28 | SynrG | !bdo kernel |
| 11:13.28 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
| 11:13.52 | mrrhq | apt-get install -t jessie-backports linux-image-$(dpkg --print-architecture) |
| 11:13.53 | SynrG | uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,' gives me amd64 |
| 11:14.06 | SynrG | mrrhq: inaccurate |
| 11:14.11 | mrrhq | How? |
| 11:14.16 | SynrG | your dpkg architecture might not match |
| 11:14.33 | mrrhq | It should, it's dpkg. In what cases wouldn't it match? |
| 11:14.41 | SynrG | the idea is to get the current kernel flavour. that's not equivalent to dpkg architecture |
| 11:14.44 | Sabotender | okay, it is installed...restarting |
| 11:14.50 | Sabotender | I hope all goes well :-P |
| 11:14.53 | Sabotender | brb |
| 11:14.54 | mrrhq | They usually name it by that. |
| 11:14.55 | SynrG | mrrhq: it's just coincidentally the same for you |
| 11:15.08 | SynrG | well, that's why i said it's inaccurate. "usually" is not good enough |
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| 11:15.26 | mrrhq | What's it called on i686? |
| 11:15.27 | SynrG | try that on an i386 system |
| 11:15.43 | SynrG | doesn't matter. it would be wrong even if they matched ... |
| 11:15.45 | mrrhq | I don't have one, but I could enable multiarch. :P |
| 11:15.47 | SynrG | i run amd64 kernel on i386 |
| 11:16.26 | SynrG | anyway, the factoid above has it right. if you know of a better way that gives correct results, i'm all ears :) |
| 11:16.40 | mrrhq | Well your fancy sed command works, too. |
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| 11:19.22 | Sabotender | okay I am booted in 4.8 but there are problems |
| 11:20.03 | Sabotender | firstly, cinnamon crashed, I had to go though a wonky way to run hexchat. right clicked on a random folder to access a terminal and typed hexchat |
| 11:20.06 | bazhang | kernel 4.8? |
| 11:20.30 | Sabotender | it killed my internet and graphics, so I am tethering on my phone, which always seems to work |
| 11:21.30 | Sabotender | 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
| 11:21.37 | bazhang | was that kernel from backports |
| 11:21.42 | Sabotender | yes |
| 11:21.59 | bazhang | what the reason for doing that, I forget know |
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| 11:22.41 | Sabotender | because there appears to be a USB3 software error in the other one, BUT I am testing that now |
| 11:23.15 | bazhang | so this fixes it, but now graphics and wifi went kaflooey |
| 11:23.19 | Sabotender | YEP! there is a USB3 error with the 'stable' kernel |
| 11:23.41 | Sabotender | because guess what? I am able to access my external HDD as read/write |
| 11:23.49 | Sabotender | I just deleted a file :-P |
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| 11:24.02 | Sabotender | so now, I guess I have to...um recompile cinnamon? |
| 11:24.03 | bazhang | was the above what I just said correct |
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| 11:24.28 | Sabotender | sorry bazhang it is difficult to navigate because cinnamon is broken and I have no window control (can't move windows around) |
| 11:24.34 | Sabotender | let me check buffer |
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| 11:24.44 | mrrhq | To get USB3 working better, I usually blacklist in my /etc/modprobe.d/usb-blacklist.conf: ohci-hcd, uhci-hcd, so that ehci and xhci are the only ones allowed to run. Helps with my external USB drive. |
| 11:24.46 | Sabotender | bazhang: yes you are correct |
| 11:24.51 | jelly | Sabotender, if you're running the kernel from bpo, you also want any firmware to be from bpo |
| 11:24.53 | bazhang | why the must have on cinnamon |
| 11:25.03 | Sabotender | because I hate all other DEs |
| 11:25.10 | bazhang | why not select some other |
| 11:25.20 | Sabotender | cinnamon makes using linux bearable. (for me) |
| 11:25.39 | Balya | hello i am running debian jessie but i cannot get my speaker sound, i use headphone instead, my laptop is TOSHIBA SATELLITE PRO C640 with CONEXANT device |
| 11:25.42 | Balya | need help |
| 11:25.48 | bazhang | broken does not sound much bearable |
| 11:25.55 | bazhang | Balya, with what |
| 11:26.08 | mrrhq | Balya: Are you able to run alsamixer in a terminal? |
| 11:26.12 | Balya | yes |
| 11:26.17 | Balya | i can run it |
| 11:26.25 | Balya | everything is on, |
| 11:26.26 | mrrhq | Does it say muted "MM"? |
| 11:26.29 | Balya | nooo |
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| 11:26.35 | Sabotender | bazhang: I think I just have to get a new version which is compatible with this kernel? |
| 11:26.36 | Balya | i have pressed <> |
| 11:26.56 | mrrhq | Hm... It might be a speaker for bell sound only, or it's a hardware problem. |
| 11:26.59 | mrrhq | I hope not. |
| 11:27.03 | Balya | please help me, T.T |
| 11:27.16 | Balya | noo i run under windows and its just work fine |
| 11:27.49 | Balya | i tried everything -> even i tried to test the speaker using multimeter and it's sound perfect with buzzing |
| 11:27.57 | Balya | i mean buzzing utilities |
| 11:28.11 | mrrhq | Any details on what the speaker is called in Alsamixer? F2, then /proc/asound/pcm |
| 11:28.22 | buu | Balya: it's totally muted ^_^ |
| 11:28.43 | Balya | Nooooo, not muted FOR real, :T.T |
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| 11:29.05 | mrrhq | Or just try: cat /proc/asound/pcm |
| 11:29.14 | Balya | mrrhq, it says conexant generic |
| 11:29.46 | mrrhq | Strange how it says generic... Is that really the right one? |
| 11:30.02 | Balya | yes, for sure. |
| 11:30.21 | mrrhq | aplay -L |
| 11:30.29 | mrrhq | Does that give any other info on the speaker? |
| 11:30.55 | teraflops | Balya: alsa or pulseaudio? |
| 11:30.57 | Balya | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:30.57 | Balya | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.29 | Balya | i have both teraflops |
| 11:31.38 | mrrhq | There's troubleshooitng pages for HDA Intel on Linux, you might want to read up on them, too. |
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| 11:31.47 | Balya | where? |
| 11:31.57 | teraflops | so pulseaudio. do you have pavucontrol installed? |
| 11:32.13 | Balya | teraflops: yes |
| 11:32.35 | teraflops | did you try to play music and then play with the outputs? |
| 11:32.38 | mrrhq | cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec |
| 11:32.49 | mrrhq | I'm reading one of those pages, too. |
| 11:32.52 | Balya | teraflops: i have both just in case controlling with gui. |
| 11:33.30 | Balya | Codec: Conexant Generic |
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| 11:34.09 | mrrhq | Okay, so it's just HDA Intel/Conexant then... |
| 11:34.15 | Sabotender | how do I force a recompile of the nvidia driver for the new kernel? |
| 11:34.25 | Balya | mrrhq : yes T.T |
| 11:34.52 | bazhang | Sabotender, are you referring to the kernel module |
| 11:35.13 | teraflops | Balya: also please while playing music or video paste the output of pactl list sinks |
| 11:36.02 | Sabotender | bazhang: I guess? I am not a linux guru so my terminology might be off. All I know is that when I installed nvidia-driver the first time, it had to compile for the particular kernel that I was on |
| 11:36.33 | Sabotender | from my research, it appears that cinnamon might be crashing because of the nvidia drivers not set to work for this kernel |
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| 11:37.51 | brainware00 | Balya : you can type pulseaudio -D |
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| 11:39.00 | Balya | E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed. |
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| 11:39.07 | mrrhq | lsmod | grep snd_hda_codec_generic |
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| 11:39.17 | mrrhq | If it shows anything, the module should be loaded. |
| 11:39.20 | teraflops | Balya: it's already running |
| 11:39.25 | teraflops | I bet so |
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| 11:39.43 | Balya | teraflop, can you tell me how to use pastebin. |
| 11:39.46 | Balya | ? |
| 11:39.48 | teraflops | Balya: pactl list sinks while playing audio/video |
| 11:39.51 | mrrhq | It's strange because I also have a Conexant, but mine doesn't say generic. |
| 11:40.18 | teraflops | copy the output to http://paste.debian.net |
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| 11:41.15 | mrrhq | I hope Pulseaudio isn't causing problems again.... |
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| 11:45.10 | Balya | sorry take too long http://pastebin.com/iAeDAVXe |
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| 11:46.01 | Balya | mrrhq : http://pastebin.com/iAeDAVXe |
| 11:46.08 | Balya | teraflops : http://pastebin.com/iAeDAVXe |
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| 11:49.25 | danke | when i switch users in gnome, if any user still has something using the sound card no one else can play anything. you get "dummy output" in the sound config page. |
| 11:49.33 | danke | i think i've tracked it down to this: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/PerfectSetup/ |
| 11:49.37 | brainware00 | My sound device have same problem, still mute but , if i type pulseaudio -D . It work |
| 11:49.45 | danke | "If your distribution belongs to group 2 or 3, you should make sure that no one is in the "audio" group. (If you plan running pulseaudio in the system-wide mode, then the special user "pulse" should still be in the "audio" group in order to have access to the sound card.) If your distribution belongs to group 1 or 2, fast user switching doesn't work properly if users are in the "audio" group. |
| 11:49.45 | danke | " |
| 11:50.08 | danke | ... but i think all the users are in the audio group by default, is that a bug? |
| 11:50.17 | Balya | and what should i do? O.O |
| 11:50.34 | danke | brainware00, ahhh... that runs as a daemon? |
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| 11:50.53 | Sabotender | I get an error when I try to compile for this new kernel: ERROR! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
| 11:51.00 | Sabotender | any idea how I can fix this? |
| 11:51.04 | danke | i think the audio group is giving permission to 'lock' the sound card? |
| 11:51.17 | teraflops | Balya: pacmd set-default-sink alsa (press tab key) |
| 11:51.28 | jelly | Sabotender, that's not the whole message, pastebin the whole thing. Which dkms modules are you using? |
| 11:51.44 | Balya | teraflops: okay |
| 11:51.50 | mrrhq | >State: SUSPENDED |
| 11:51.52 | mrrhq | Hmmm.... |
| 11:52.12 | teraflops | mrrhq: headphones are the active ones |
| 11:52.31 | Sabotender | jelly: I can't pastebin under these conditions. I barely got hexchat open |
| 11:52.41 | teraflops | so let's tell pulseaudio we want the espeakers |
| 11:52.48 | Sabotender | cinnamon has crashed so there is no way for me to manipulate windows |
| 11:52.50 | teraflops | speakers |
| 11:53.06 | Sabotender | I am trying to compile the broadcom drivers for this kernel and it throws out that error |
| 11:53.19 | Sabotender | I had to install the kernel headers for this kernel and I also got that error as well |
| 11:54.05 | jelly | Sabotender, which broadcom drivers? |
| 11:54.07 | mrrhq | Why are you compiling the drivers? Are thye not in the repo? |
| 11:54.13 | mrrhq | *they |
| 11:54.13 | Sabotender | I got that error right after, "Building initial module for 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64" |
| 11:54.21 | Sabotender | jelly: broadcom-sta |
| 11:54.27 | jelly | ,v broadcom-sta-dkms |
| 11:54.28 | judd | Package: broadcom-sta-dkms on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 5.100.82.112-8; jessie/non-free: 6.30.223.248-3; jessie-backports/non-free: 6.30.223.271-2~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 6.30.223.271-4; sid/non-free: 6.30.223.271-5 |
| 11:54.41 | jelly | Sabotender, you probably want to install that from jessie-backports as well |
| 11:54.51 | mrrhq | Ew, DKMS... |
| 11:54.52 | Sabotender | oh I had not been doing that |
| 11:55.09 | mrrhq | You also need to apt-get install dkms, unless it installs it for you. |
| 11:55.23 | jelly | mrrhq, they already ahve it. |
| 11:55.31 | jelly | it's what GIVES those errors. |
| 11:55.32 | teraflops | Balya: you can do the same via pavucontrol. last tab on the right ^ |
| 11:55.46 | teraflops | Balya: or first tab on the left |
| 11:55.55 | Sabotender | that still gives me the Error bad return status error |
| 11:56.15 | Sabotender | I used "sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install broadcom-sta-dkms" |
| 11:56.23 | Sabotender | and it tried to compile it, with no-go |
| 11:56.46 | jelly | fun |
| 11:56.57 | teraflops | bcm fun |
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| 11:57.11 | mrrhq | apt-get -f install ?? |
| 11:58.01 | teraflops | wich kernel Sabotender? |
| 11:58.04 | Sabotender | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 71 not upgraded. |
| 11:58.08 | teraflops | which * |
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| 11:58.24 | Sabotender | Linux debian 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.8.11-1~bpo8+1 (2016-12-14) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 11:58.31 | teraflops | only 71 not upgraded ... |
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| 11:59.24 | teraflops | Balya: how is it going mate? hwhe |
| 11:59.32 | Sabotender | all this crap, just so I can get my USB3 external drives to work properly |
| 11:59.46 | Balya | still no sound |
| 11:59.59 | Sabotender | they WORK with this new kernel, but nothing else does |
| 12:00.01 | teraflops | tried changing the default sink? |
| 12:00.09 | Balya | how? |
| 12:00.17 | teraflops | I told you so |
| 12:00.37 | Sabotender | any idea how to fix that bad return status error? |
| 12:00.40 | Balya | I have done everything you told me of course. |
| 12:00.42 | Sabotender | I am sure I may have missed something |
| 12:00.45 | teraflops | ah |
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| 12:00.55 | Balya | but still, no sound. |
| 12:01.09 | Balya | is this a kernel problem, or just distro problem? |
| 12:01.18 | mrrhq | Sabotender: Have you done apt-get dist-upgrade, and rebooted? |
| 12:01.30 | mrrhq | I don't know what will help with your Broadcom issue though. |
| 12:01.35 | Sabotender | I have not. I wasn't aware that command existed |
| 12:01.40 | teraflops | Balya: I have no idea but I don't think so since headphones work |
| 12:01.44 | Sabotender | will that cause bloat on my system? |
| 12:01.49 | mrrhq | Yep it exists. :) |
| 12:01.58 | teraflops | unless those are usb headphones or by ones |
| 12:02.00 | mrrhq | It makes sure all the upgrades are done. |
| 12:02.00 | teraflops | bt |
| 12:02.03 | Sabotender | or will it simply replace the old files? |
| 12:02.19 | Sabotender | I don't want any duplicates because I have limited drive space |
| 12:02.20 | mrrhq | Check it before you do it. But it's just installing upgrades. |
| 12:02.52 | mrrhq | The upgrades overwrite older versions, though. |
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| 12:03.45 | Sabotender | I will try anything at this point |
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| 12:04.02 | Sabotender | the worst that can happen is that I have to reinstall debian |
| 12:04.11 | Sabotender | that would be a disaster, but |
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| 12:05.50 | Sabotender | see, what it is doing is upgrading for my old kernel |
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| 12:06.04 | Sabotender | thats not really helpful |
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| 12:06.32 | Sabotender | should I uninstall the kernel headers and reinstall to see if that fixes the issue? |
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| 12:08.18 | Sabotender | fatal module wl not found :-( |
| 12:08.39 | Sabotender | is cinnamon not compatible with this newer kernel? is that why it is crashing? |
| 12:09.00 | mrrhq | Oh, really? Hm, I think dis-upgrade doesn't play very well with backports. |
| 12:09.45 | mrrhq | *dist |
| 12:10.12 | buu | dist-upgrade shouldn't be affected by backports at all since the BP repo is explicitly tagged |
| 12:10.12 | bazhang | !dist-upgrade |
| 12:10.13 | dpkg | dist-upgrade tells apt to also install/remove packages when handling dependencies; security updates may require a dist-upgrade to install (they introduce new packages). Dist-upgrade does not mean changing from stable to testing; apt and aptitude both call dist-upgrade "full-upgrade" to remove this confusion. Read man apt-get carefully. See also <why not dist-upgrade>, <full-upgrade>. |
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| 12:10.32 | buu | You have to explicitly tell apt to pull a package from backports |
| 12:10.58 | mrrhq | Yeah, it's strange. He's saying it would revert him to an older kernel... |
| 12:11.17 | Sabotender | how do I specifically tell it to pull from backports? |
| 12:11.26 | bazhang | the stable one, presumably |
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| 12:11.58 | Sabotender | yeah when I ran the upgrade, it only updated for the older, stable kernel |
| 12:12.11 | buu | Sabotender: apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package" |
| 12:12.32 | buu | I don't understand how upgrade is involved here |
| 12:13.46 | Sabotender | buu: okay so when I try that, I get the error, 'Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64' |
| 12:14.07 | Sabotender | is it okay to ignore that message |
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| 12:14.21 | buu | please paste the entire output starting with your apt-get line |
| 12:14.54 | Sabotender | that is going to be difficult, as I have no window control due to cinnamon not running |
| 12:15.00 | Sabotender | it crashed |
| 12:15.08 | buu | what are you using to type commands? |
| 12:15.21 | Sabotender | I can't move, resize, or change the focus of windows |
| 12:15.40 | buu | does shift-pgup work? |
| 12:15.50 | Sabotender | well I have a terminal window luckly in the upper corner of the screen and hexchat is in the background |
| 12:15.55 | Sabotender | let me try |
| 12:16.06 | Sabotender | no it does not |
| 12:16.42 | buu | you did run apt-get update right? |
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| 12:17.03 | buu | are there any error lines around the bad return status one? Paste what you've got |
| 12:17.05 | Sabotender | I mean, I can copy and paste the lines one by one into this window, but there are many, I don't have access to pastebin. If I try to open firefox, it would overlay the entire screen and obscure hexchat |
| 12:17.10 | Sabotender | okay just a moment |
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| 12:18.04 | buu | Sabotender: you can pastebin from the commandline with curl -X PUT --upload-file <file> https://transfer.sh/<file>.txt |
| 12:18.09 | buu | If you get bored |
| 12:18.21 | buu | Sabotender: Mostly I'm trying to figure out if there's a specific module that failed to build |
| 12:18.38 | Sabotender | Loading new broadcom-sta-6.30.223.271 DKMS files..., First Installation: checking all kernels..., Building only for 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64, Building initial module for 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64, Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 (x86_64), Consult /var/lib/dkms/broadcom-sta/6.30.223.271/build/make.log for more information. |
| 12:18.45 | buu | Ah |
| 12:18.50 | Sabotender | each new line is separated by a comma |
| 12:18.55 | buu | Good enough |
| 12:19.01 | buu | Have you looked at make.log? |
| 12:19.17 | Sabotender | not yet, will now, just a moment, let me see if I can nano into it |
| 12:19.32 | buu | `less` might be simpler |
| 12:20.07 | Sabotender | heh I stick to what I know when it comes to linux, especially at the commandline |
| 12:20.18 | buu | This is how you learn new things! =] |
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| 12:20.34 | buu | So since I came in mid-conversation, did you install the kernel-headers for 4.8? |
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| 12:20.56 | buu | When you did the apt-get install <linux-image> did it recommend any packages? |
| 12:20.59 | Sabotender | yes, but that also gave me the 'Error! Bad return status for blah' |
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| 12:21.47 | Sabotender | make[3]: *** [_module_/var/lib/dkms/broadcom-sta/6.30.223.271/build] Error 2 |
| 12:22.45 | Sabotender | Makefile:150: recipe for target 'sub-make' failed, make[2]: *** [sub-make] Error 2, Makefile:8: recipe for target 'all' failed, make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 |
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| 12:22.53 | Sabotender | pretty much its 'error 2' |
| 12:23.14 | Sabotender | buu: hmm no it did not |
| 12:23.29 | Sabotender | it just installed the kernel I requested |
| 12:24.00 | buu | Well, I suggest kernel headers |
| 12:24.40 | Sabotender | but...they are already installed? |
| 12:24.51 | Sabotender | should I remove them? |
| 12:24.59 | buu | which ones? |
| 12:25.05 | teraflops | Balya: I just wanted you to check https://pb.gehidore.net/J7X0.gif |
| 12:25.30 | Sabotender | buu: I used this command sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-headers-4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
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| 12:25.58 | Sabotender | I searched google for the possible proper format to get the headers |
| 12:26.21 | Sabotender | I just replaced 'kernel' with 'headers', I think |
| 12:26.35 | buu | Sabotender: ok |
| 12:26.42 | buu | Sabotender: do you have curl? |
| 12:27.00 | Sabotender | command not found |
| 12:27.03 | buu | First run curl -X PUT --upload-file /var/lib/dkms/broadcom-sta/6.30.223.271/build/make.log https://transfer.sh/make.txt |
| 12:27.06 | buu | ok |
| 12:27.08 | buu | first install curl |
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| 12:28.23 | Sabotender | shouldn't I be trying to fix cinnamon so I can have a proper DE? |
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| 12:28.35 | Sabotender | I can already tether my internet connection at the moment |
| 12:29.43 | buu | Well, I'd like to see what your error log looks like |
| 12:29.52 | buu | And I have no idea what cinnamon's problem is |
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| 12:30.12 | teraflops | Balya: or just https://pb.gehidore.net/KSPM.png |
| 12:30.16 | buu | Sabotender: do you have the package build-essential installed? |
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| 12:30.31 | Balya | ok |
| 12:31.05 | Sabotender | buu: yes I do |
| 12:31.46 | Sabotender | the reason cinnamon is crashing might be because nvidia-whatever has been compiled for an old kernel |
| 12:32.11 | buu | But.. you're not running a new kernel |
| 12:32.19 | Sabotender | yes I am |
| 12:32.23 | buu | er |
| 12:32.29 | buu | I thought it failed to install? |
| 12:32.34 | Sabotender | no it installed |
| 12:32.38 | bazhang | he upped it from stable to4.8 |
| 12:32.41 | buu | and you rebooted? |
| 12:32.46 | Sabotender | yes I rebooted |
| 12:32.50 | buu | oh |
| 12:32.52 | buu | fun |
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| 12:33.11 | buu | can you switch to the noveau driver? |
| 12:33.40 | Sabotender | I can try to reinstall the nvidia-driver from backports and hope it recompiles for the new kernel |
| 12:33.41 | Sabotender | ill try it now |
| 12:34.49 | Sabotender | see it keeps wanting to isntall the 367.57-2~bpo8+1 version |
| 12:35.07 | buu | That's the version you want |
| 12:35.24 | buu | I mean, the version in apt is basically the latest nvidia has released |
| 12:35.30 | buu | It's not like they backport it |
| 12:35.59 | buu | Like, there's not a different nvidia version for each different version of the kernel |
| 12:36.05 | Sabotender | I see, well let me reboot and hope cinnamon doesn't crash again |
| 12:36.06 | Sabotender | brb |
| 12:36.18 | buu | funtimes |
| 12:36.19 | Sabotender | wait, what is the command to reboot from terminal? |
| 12:36.26 | Sabotender | 'reboot'? |
| 12:36.31 | buu | or shutdown -r 0 |
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| 12:39.39 | Sabotender | faints |
| 12:39.41 | Sabotender | okay, cinnamon is back! |
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| 12:40.15 | buu | so the actual nvidia binary module compiled/installed? |
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| 12:40.19 | buu | But broadcom won't? |
| 12:40.35 | Sabotender | right |
| 12:40.46 | Sabotender | I try to sudo modprobe wl, but it no work |
| 12:40.46 | buu | can you paste the make log now? |
| 12:40.56 | Sabotender | let me check the buffer |
| 12:41.04 | buu | /var/lib/dkms/broadcom-sta/6.30.223.271/build/make.log |
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| 12:43.03 | Sabotender | buu: http://pastebin.com/8g3k3c2P |
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| 12:43.51 | buu | uhhhhh |
| 12:44.20 | buu | Sabotender: is this via broadcom-sta-dkms ? |
| 12:44.34 | Sabotender | buu: yes, as suggested. from backports |
| 12:44.57 | Sabotender | wait, is that the wrong file? |
| 12:45.28 | buu | Sabotender: are you sure it's the backports one? |
| 12:46.02 | buu | Sabotender: what does dpkg -l | grep broadcom show |
| 12:46.07 | buu | The specific version |
| 12:46.07 | Sabotender | moment |
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| 12:47.09 | Sabotender | 6.30.223.271-2~bpo8+1 |
| 12:47.23 | buu | uh |
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| 12:47.51 | buu | Sabotender: how many packages show up when you dpkg -l | grep broadcom? |
| 12:47.57 | buu | actually just paste the output please |
| 12:48.07 | Sabotender | ii broadcom-sta-dkms 6.30.223.271-2~bpo8+1 all dkms source for the Broadcom STA Wireless driver |
| 12:48.10 | Sabotender | that is it |
| 12:48.19 | buu | huh |
| 12:48.52 | buu | Sabotender: just for the heck of it try apt-get remove --purge broadcom-sta-dkms |
| 12:49.03 | buu | then apt-get install backports broadcom... |
| 12:49.05 | Sabotender | woo Thought you'd never ask |
| 12:49.05 | Sabotender | lol |
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| 12:50.26 | Sabotender | broadcom-sta-dkms from backports? |
| 12:50.31 | buu | yeah |
| 12:50.37 | buu | https://github.com/hadess/rtl8723bs/issues/68 |
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| 12:51.09 | Sabotender | Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 (x86_64) |
| 12:51.40 | Sabotender | ii broadcom-sta-dkms 6.30.223.271-2~bpo8+1 all dkms source for the Broadcom STA Wireless driver <---that is the output again |
| 12:52.09 | buu | Sabotender: what happens if you try -source instead? |
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| 12:52.21 | Sabotender | broadcom-sta-source? |
| 12:52.31 | babilen | Sabotender: Could you paste the actual build error? |
| 12:52.45 | babilen | (and did you install header files for the new kernel also?) |
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| 12:52.50 | buu | babilen: http://pastebin.com/8g3k3c2P |
| 12:52.55 | buu | we covered that |
| 12:52.56 | babilen | dpkg: pastebin.com |
| 12:52.56 | dpkg | pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 12:53.02 | buu | I KNOW |
| 12:53.05 | buu | DON'T TELL ME THAT |
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| 12:53.24 | babilen | That paste has been removed .. but okay, go on |
| 12:53.29 | babilen | No need to scream :) |
| 12:53.35 | buu | Sabotender: You know what, actually, assuming -source fails, remove them with --purge and install the one from regular repo |
| 12:53.50 | Sabotender | lol well I DID ask about which one to use, give me a moment to complete these requests |
| 12:54.09 | buu | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/904209/ |
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| 12:54.25 | buu | Sabotender: Well, I mean, I have no idea, I'm just trying random things! |
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| 12:55.19 | Sabotender | I downloaded the source, what should I do now? |
| 12:55.27 | Sabotender | that didn't give me an error |
| 12:56.10 | buu | oh |
| 12:56.25 | buu | I was hoping it would be more clever than that |
| 12:56.36 | Sabotender | was that supposed to install from the source or something? |
| 12:56.40 | buu | I was hoping! |
| 12:56.56 | Sabotender | modprobe wl doesn't work though, is there another function I should use |
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| 12:56.59 | buu | Sabotender: rerun the remove --purge for the -dkms one then just do apt-get install broadcom-sta-dkms |
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| 12:57.18 | Sabotender | oh, should I remove the source version then? |
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| 12:58.44 | Sabotender | still the bad return status |
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| 12:59.03 | buu | welp |
| 12:59.22 | buu | This swears the backports one should work |
| 12:59.35 | babilen | Sabotender: What does "apt-cache policy broadcom-sta-dkms" give you? |
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| 13:00.29 | Sabotender | multiple lines, going to pastebin that |
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| 13:01.03 | babilen | Please use anything but pastebin.com |
| 13:01.07 | Sabotender | http://paste.debian.net/904212/ |
| 13:01.10 | Sabotender | way ahead of you |
| 13:01.11 | Sabotender | :-P |
| 13:01.38 | babilen | Sabotender: How did you try to install the "broadcom-sta-dkms" package earlier? |
| 13:01.44 | babilen | (exact command) |
| 13:01.50 | Sabotender | moment |
| 13:02.14 | Sabotender | sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install broadcom-sta-dkms |
| 13:02.35 | Sabotender | but I swear I did not install the -dkms version under the previous kernel |
| 13:02.43 | Sabotender | let me check my bash history |
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| 13:03.45 | buu | Sabotender: what does dpkg -l | grep headers show? |
| 13:03.47 | Sabotender | oh I am lying |
| 13:03.49 | Sabotender | haha |
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| 13:03.56 | babilen | lying about what? |
| 13:03.58 | Sabotender | I used this: "sudo apt-get install linux-image-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') broadcom-sta-dkms" |
| 13:04.07 | Sabotender | the dkms was cut off |
| 13:04.20 | Sabotender | moment |
| 13:04.22 | babilen | Well, that wouldn't work |
| 13:04.52 | babilen | Please make sure you have the kernel headers from *backports* installed and then use "apt -t jessie-backports install broadcom-sta-dkms" to install the driver |
| 13:05.02 | babilen | bbl |
| 13:05.19 | Sabotender | pastebining that |
| 13:06.33 | Sabotender | buu: http://paste.debian.net/904213/ |
| 13:07.04 | buu | Sabotender: huh |
| 13:07.39 | buu | Sabotender: try apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-headers; or if that fails use linux-headers-amd64 |
| 13:08.26 | babilen | And make sure to pull in the actual specific package for your kernel from backports |
| 13:09.01 | babilen | But it looks as if they are installed |
| 13:09.01 | buu | I'm confused about |
| 13:09.02 | buu | ii linux-headers-amd64 3.16+63 amd64 Header files for Linux amd64 configuration (meta-package) |
| 13:09.05 | buu | ii linux-libc-dev:amd64 3.16.36-1+deb8u2 amd64 Linux support headers for userspace development |
| 13:09.08 | buu | Shouldn't those be 4.8 |
| 13:09.24 | Sabotender | buu: that is my old kernel |
| 13:09.28 | buu | I know! |
| 13:09.33 | buu | Why isn't it your new one?! |
| 13:09.36 | babilen | Those are just metapackages |
| 13:09.41 | Sabotender | because my new one is there too |
| 13:09.44 | buu | Still makes me sad |
| 13:10.11 | Sabotender | so re try "sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install broadcom-sta-dkms" ? |
| 13:10.35 | Sabotender | or (sudo) "apt -t jessie-backports install broadcom-sta-dkms"? |
| 13:11.07 | Sabotender | hmm guess that was a typo on your end :-P |
| 13:11.21 | babilen | What was a typo? |
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| 13:12.08 | Sabotender | the line you typed |
| 13:12.20 | Sabotender | okay I tried to reinstall it and got the same error again |
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| 13:12.51 | babilen | Sabotender: There was no typo in that line |
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| 13:14.27 | Sabotender | babilen: I tried it your method and it gave me a nice progress bar, but still gave me the error, 'Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 (x86_64)' |
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| 13:15.52 | buu | Sabotender: try this.. sudo apt-get install -t jessie-backports linux-kbuild-4.8 linux-libc-dev linux-compiler-gcc-5-x86 linux-headers-amd64 |
| 13:16.11 | Sabotender | okay |
| 13:16.22 | babilen | Sounds as if the kernel version isn't recognised/supported (yet) |
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| 13:16.38 | Sabotender | E: Unable to locate package linux-compiler-gcc-5-x86 |
| 13:16.43 | buu | hm |
| 13:16.51 | buu | Sabotender: gcc-4.8-x86? |
| 13:16.54 | babilen | judd: v broadcom-sta-dkms |
| 13:16.55 | judd | Package: broadcom-sta-dkms on amd64 -- wheezy/non-free: 5.100.82.112-8; jessie/non-free: 6.30.223.248-3; jessie-backports/non-free: 6.30.223.271-2~bpo8+1; stretch/non-free: 6.30.223.271-4; sid/non-free: 6.30.223.271-5 |
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| 13:17.20 | babilen | Sabotender: Yeah, I didn't expect it to work differently in regards to the module compilation, but I prefer apt over apt-get these days |
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| 13:17.53 | Sabotender | ah I wasn't aware you could use apt instead of apt-get |
| 13:18.02 | buu | Sabotender: did the change install anything? |
| 13:18.03 | Sabotender | that would save me on some typing in the future |
| 13:18.22 | Sabotender | buu: nope, just gave me that error |
| 13:18.30 | buu | Sabotender: er, after you made the change I said? |
| 13:18.31 | Sabotender | should I try again without that package? |
| 13:18.50 | SynrG | Sabotender: not just a savings in typing. they produce different results, visually, and have different functionality |
| 13:18.51 | babilen | You'll need at least version 6.30.223.271-4 of that package |
| 13:18.51 | buu | Sabotender: change it to linux-compiler-gcc-4.8-x86 |
| 13:19.00 | buu | babilen: I was just thinking that... |
| 13:19.07 | buu | Why is the bpo8 -2? |
| 13:19.17 | babilen | It mentions "Added patch from Koos Vriezen to work around kernel crash with version 4.8+ (THANKS!) (closes: #839629)" in its changelog |
| 13:19.18 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/839629 in broadcom-sta-source (closed): «kernel NULL pointer dereference at cfg80211_scan_done with kernel 4.8.0»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-10-03; last modified: 2016-11-07. |
| 13:19.32 | babilen | buu: Because a newer version has not been backported yet |
| 13:19.36 | Sabotender | buu: that worked |
| 13:19.46 | Sabotender | installed successfully |
| 13:20.06 | babilen | Shouldn't be too tricky ... you could probably just install the package from sid or use "ssb" to backport it yourself |
| 13:20.11 | buu | Sabotender: does the broadcom install work now? |
| 13:20.18 | SynrG | Sabotender: read the fine man page for apt for details. i quite like what they've done there. |
| 13:20.32 | Sabotender | let me try |
| 13:20.40 | buu | Sabotender: If that fails just download this file: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/b/broadcom-sta/broadcom-sta-dkms_6.30.223.271-4_all.deb |
| 13:20.46 | buu | then dpkg -i <filename> |
| 13:21.30 | Sabotender | Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 (x86_64) again, will download that file |
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| 13:24.20 | buu | Sabotender: any change? |
| 13:24.34 | Sabotender | LOL wellll THAT worked |
| 13:24.37 | babilen | I'd grab the sid one (-5 not -4) if you go down that route |
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| 13:25.56 | buu | -5 is at http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/b/broadcom-sta/broadcom-sta-dkms_6.30.223.271-5_all.deb |
| 13:26.01 | Sabotender | buu: yep, instead of getting the error, it said, done |
| 13:26.05 | buu | Sabotender: welp |
| 13:26.11 | buu | Sabotender: do you had mod wl now? |
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| 13:26.19 | Sabotender | and then I typed sudo modprobe wl and it detected my wireless as usual |
| 13:26.24 | buu | hurray! |
| 13:26.27 | Sabotender | and connected automatically |
| 13:26.30 | Sabotender | dances |
| 13:26.48 | Sabotender | you are awesome, i'd buy you a beer |
| 13:26.58 | buu | Sabotender: Just remember in the future that you installed this package 'manually', at some during normal upgrading it *might* get confused on this specific package |
| 13:27.06 | buu | I don't think it will but it's good to remember |
| 13:27.18 | buu | Well, it was mostly babilen's idea |
| 13:27.54 | Sabotender | well I dont think I would be upgrading the kernel anytime soon, I only did it because the 'stable' version wasn't reading my USB3 external drives properly |
| 13:27.54 | buu | I'm still really confused about the backported version, but oh well |
| 13:28.44 | buu | I guess it's just a newer version backported to work with kernel 3.16 |
| 13:28.46 | buu | not 4.x |
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| 13:29.39 | babilen | Sabotender: As I said: I'd rather grab the -5 package from sid as it contains additional bugfixes |
| 13:29.53 | Sabotender | well i'd buy you both a beer. a quality craft beer, not swill like miller, bud, coors :-P |
| 13:30.40 | Sabotender | oh, should I install that one instead? |
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| 13:30.59 | buu | Sabotender: probably! |
| 13:31.01 | buu | I linked it |
| 13:31.15 | Sabotender | okay, moment |
| 13:31.30 | buu | Sabotender: The only reason not to install it is if it depends on newer versions of modules you can't install |
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| 13:31.33 | buu | but I doubt it |
| 13:31.33 | buu | ... |
| 13:31.38 | buu | whups |
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| 13:37.48 | Sabotender | I just restarted and things seem to be back up and running. is there any cleanup that needs to be accomplished or is it pretty much done |
| 13:38.44 | babilen | Sabotender: Once the package lands in backports, I'd install it from there |
| 13:39.04 | Sabotender | hmm okay |
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| 13:39.26 | babilen | You might have to remove the currently installed one prior to that |
| 13:39.37 | babilen | (that way you continue to get updates) |
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| 13:40.15 | Sabotender | oh I see, well ill definitely keep that in mind |
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| 13:47.46 | g0zzy | What the proper way to add a new user and make them a member of a list of groups all at once? |
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| 13:50.17 | apathor | g0zzy: i use 'useradd -G group1,group2 username' |
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| 13:55.57 | g0zzy | apathor: Bungled it. I have the new user. Now i need to just add it to all the groups |
| 13:56.58 | apathor | usermod -aG group1 username |
| 13:57.53 | apathor | usermod can take comma separated group names too |
| 13:59.01 | g0zzy | Ah OK |
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| 13:59.55 | g0zzy | Thanks. Do this too rarely to remember ;) |
| 14:01.30 | apathor | :) |
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| 14:29.12 | introom | how to install kernel4.9 on sid ? |
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| 14:30.38 | Brigo | ,kernels |
| 14:30.39 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.11-1); stretch: 4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.11-1); jessie-backports: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.8.11-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1) |
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| 14:31.02 | Brigo | introom, you have to download and compile it from kernel.org |
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| 14:35.07 | jamesl | has 4.8 |
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| 14:50.35 | darxmurf | time to go ! |
| 14:50.41 | darxmurf | merry x-mas folks |
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| 14:53.13 | darxmurf | I'm more into serious beers |
| 14:53.16 | darxmurf | but thanks :-) |
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| 15:06.33 | lethu | hello, I have upgraded from a AMD R9 270 to a AMD RX 460 and the graphics drivers reverted to the default ones from radeon, how can I fix this? |
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| 15:10.32 | han-solo | , ffmpeg |
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| 15:14.28 | jhutchins | !radeon |
| 15:14.28 | dpkg | Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by AMD/ATI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Also ask me about <radeon firmware>, <radeon audio>. https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. For the proprietary driver, see <fglrx>. |
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| 15:18.49 | introom | why `apt-get install linux' gives nothing, but on the other hand, `apt-get build-dep linux' shows a lot of dependency ? |
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| 15:20.39 | jhutchins | introom: You already have linux installed. |
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| 15:21.31 | introom | jhutchins: I am curious why the difference. |
| 15:21.43 | zykotick9 | N: Unable to locate package linux |
| 15:21.58 | introom | does the package 'linux' exist? from `build-dep', it seems to exist. |
| 15:22.33 | ExoUNX | introom are you talking about updating your kernel? |
| 15:22.57 | lethu | thanks jhutchins |
| 15:23.05 | jibin | hello |
| 15:23.09 | jibin | apt-cahe policy ffmpeg shows no candidate, how can i install ffmpeg |
| 15:23.50 | introom | ExoUNX: not that much. I am inerested in given a package, why `apt-get install pkg' gives output saying that package doesn't exist. on the other hand, `apt-get build-dep pkg' succeeds. |
| 15:23.55 | introom | the packge here is `linux' |
| 15:24.00 | ExoUNX | introom sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 15:24.35 | apathor | jibin: use avconv instead |
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| 15:25.25 | zykotick9 | jibin: note, ffmpeg is in backports for jessie. |
| 15:25.32 | ExoUNX | introom http://askubuntu.com/questions/324845/whats-the-difference-between-apt-get-install-and-apt-get-build-dep |
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| 15:26.05 | jibin | okk |
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| 15:29.33 | jhutchins | ,v ffmpeg |
| 15:29.34 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on amd64 -- wheezy: 6:0.8.17-2; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.18-0+deb7u1; jessie-backports: 7:3.2-2~bpo8+2; sid: 7:3.2.2-1; stretch: 7:3.2.2-1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.9-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:3.2.2-dmo1 |
| 15:29.41 | jibin | i've a ffmpeg dependency code |
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| 15:34.16 | jibin | W: Failed to fetch http://debianmirror.nkn.in/debian/dists/jessie-backports/main/amd64/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 2001:4408:7c00::2:4 80] |
| 15:34.30 | jibin | how to solve this error |
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| 15:36.36 | sandman13 | jibin: Have you ran 'apt-get update'? |
| 15:37.43 | jhutchins | jibin: That's not a valid URL. /main/amd64 does not exist on that server. What is the source line from sources.list? (Just that one line or paste.debian.net.) |
| 15:38.02 | jibin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.06 | jhutchins | sandman13: That looks like output from update. |
| 15:38.18 | sandman13 | jhutchins: Oh. |
| 15:38.21 | sandman13 | Nevermind |
| 15:38.24 | sandman13 | :) |
| 15:38.42 | jibin | this error W: Failed to fetch http://debianmirror.nkn.in/debian/dists/jessie-backports/main/amd64/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 2001:4408:7c00::2:4 80] |
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| 15:40.04 | sandman13 | jibin: jhutchins is right. That URI doesn't exist |
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| 15:40.36 | jibin | can i get a valid backports url |
| 15:40.52 | jhutchins | !backports |
| 15:40.53 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 15:41.12 | jhutchins | jibin: The backports web page has the correcrt urls. |
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| 15:44.14 | AlexLikeRock | guys please pakage to testing |
| 15:44.15 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.48 | cereal_poster | gosta de rocha Alex? |
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| 15:50.53 | cereal_poster | ok. I wrote wrong |
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| 15:51.08 | teraflops | AlexLikeRock: lol |
| 15:51.21 | AlexLikeRock | teraflops, lol |
| 15:51.25 | teraflops | hehe |
| 15:51.35 | AlexLikeRock | teraflops, i change to DEVUAN |
| 15:51.39 | teraflops | AlexLikeRock: felices fiestas |
| 15:51.40 | AlexLikeRock | :-) |
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| 15:51.57 | teraflops | AlexLikeRock: then don't ask here... |
| 15:52.40 | AlexLikeRock | hahha, i search at https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=+nvidia-legacy-304XX+ |
| 15:52.49 | AlexLikeRock | and not found to TESTING |
| 15:53.39 | teraflops | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:54.02 | AlexLikeRock | not matther |
| 15:54.18 | teraflops | no you meant you don't care lol |
| 15:54.29 | AlexLikeRock | no body now im her |
| 15:54.43 | AlexLikeRock | no body answer me |
| 15:55.04 | teraflops | AlexLikeRock: then be patient I guess |
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| 15:55.43 | jim | there would have to be an initial basis for patience... but, |
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| 15:56.15 | jim | AlexLikeRock, if you switched to devuan, that's not handled at all here |
| 15:56.29 | AlexLikeRock | jim, i know |
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| 15:56.56 | AlexLikeRock | just report NOT ARE DRIVER NVIDIA to testing jim |
| 15:57.04 | jhutchins | ,v nvidia-legacy |
| 15:57.04 | AlexLikeRock | that its bad |
| 15:57.05 | judd | No package named 'nvidia-legacy' was found in amd64. |
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| 15:57.20 | jim | AlexLikeRock, testing is also not handled here at all |
| 15:57.57 | AlexLikeRock | judd, 'nvidia-legacy' not work so good, SCRASH |
| 15:59.07 | jim | AlexLikeRock, do you have any plans of running debian stable (which is supported here)? |
| 15:59.30 | teraflops | or just debian not devuan |
| 16:00.14 | AlexLikeRock | jim, no, |
| 16:00.23 | AlexLikeRock | teraflops, im reporting a BUG |
| 16:00.40 | teraflops | AlexLikeRock: file the bug dont report here |
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| 16:01.30 | jim | AlexLikeRock, ok, thanks for letting us know... when those plans change, this place could be of help (or there are other channels supporting debian stable in your native language (maybe: I don't know what it is yet) |
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| 16:01.48 | jim | 0 |
| 16:02.17 | AlexLikeRock | jim, yes, its native for you |
| 16:02.38 | introom | I am building the kernel. but encoutnering this error: No rule to make target 'debian/certs/benh@debian.org.cert.pem', needed by 'certs/x509_certificate_list'. Stop. |
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| 16:03.21 | AlexLikeRock | jim, You always with your racist comments about the language |
| 16:03.23 | andijh92 | hi. i'm writing a small app and i would also like to package it for debian. this app will ship a small embed system. what's easier for packaging: should i use default debian packages to build the tiny os or buildroot? |
| 16:04.34 | jim | AlexLikeRock, I just figure you might be more comfortable that way -- but questions are not appropriate here unless you are asking them about degbian stable |
| 16:05.04 | AlexLikeRock | debian *** |
| 16:05.06 | jim | debian stable even |
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| 16:05.37 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.00 | jamesl | um, no |
| 16:06.05 | jamesl | it's just /ignore jim |
| 16:06.26 | AlexLikeRock | tanks jamesl |
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| 16:08.38 | teraflops | jim: anyway you can save for you your unfortunate commentaries about AlexLikeRock native language, he is trying to communicate and this channel is not for native speakers only, I bet you understood what he said or it seemed to me so |
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| 16:09.26 | inch | How is xinit able run Xorg as root in jessie? xinit is not suid, Xorg is not suid, I started xinit as a non-root user from a script I wrote. |
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| 16:14.06 | inch | I tried to use the same script in the linaro jessie package for utilite2, but something went broken and I can't start X with xinit the same way. |
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| 16:15.46 | jim | inch, what's wrong with running x as a plain user? |
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| 16:17.06 | inch | "(EE) xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory)" |
| 16:17.26 | inch | It seems Xorg needs to run as root. |
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| 16:18.15 | inch | x-clients are of course running as normal user. |
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| 16:20.30 | inch | In order to find the reason why the same thing doesn't work in utilite2, but works in a normal pc (jessie in both of them), it would be helpful to understand from where does the root privileges come from when X is started with xinit. |
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| 16:22.27 | jhutchins | inch: https://www.x.org/wiki/UserDocumentation/ |
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| 16:24.13 | inch | jhutchins: And then what? |
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| 16:27.19 | inch | Googling for suid or root from that url doesn't seem to find anything useful. |
| 16:27.43 | jim | inch, (about "x-clients are of course running as normal user"), I understand that... what about the x server? |
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| 16:29.39 | jim | if /dev/tty0 is a file, running anything as root isn't going to create it... do you mean /dev/pts/0 or /dev/tty or? |
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| 16:31.00 | jim | (having said that, of course a script (or something) could create that file, but if something is just looking for it, it won't get created "out of the blue") |
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| 16:33.36 | jim | that is to say, the x server running as root or not running as root wouldn't by itself solve the problem of /dev/tty0 not existing |
| 16:35.30 | inch | Actually /dev/tty0 does exist in the utilite2-jessie. Xorg seems to give a wrong error message. |
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| 16:35.54 | inch | But anyway, Xservers have been running as root since there were any Xservers running on linux. |
| 16:38.01 | inch | But my question remains: From where do the root privileges come from when "startx" is run on a normal pc in Debian jessie. |
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| 16:38.46 | inch | (startx uses xinit) |
| 16:40.03 | jhutchins | inch: You might actually have to read some of the documentation. |
| 16:40.16 | jhutchins | inch: The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html |
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| 16:45.57 | inch | Setuid bit is one way for getting root privileges, but that isn't used in this case. What others are there? capabilities? policykit? consolekit? I'm not sure on all of those. |
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| 16:49.17 | os_ | hi |
| 16:49.27 | jim | hi |
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| 16:49.35 | os_ | firefox eats my laptop memory |
| 16:49.44 | os_ | :) |
| 16:49.46 | jim | hungry? |
| 16:49.47 | AlexLikeRock | what version ? |
| 16:49.54 | os_ | 45esr |
| 16:49.55 | AlexLikeRock | distro and FF |
| 16:50.07 | os_ | ok moment |
| 16:50.37 | AlexLikeRock | os_, not realy are FireFox , alwys are FLASH PLAYER |
| 16:50.52 | AlexLikeRock | or youtube videos |
| 16:50.59 | AlexLikeRock | i have seam problem |
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| 16:51.04 | os_ | jessie amd64, version 45.3.0esr-1~deb8u1 |
| 16:51.26 | os_ | AlexLikeRock, i use NoScript for blocking |
| 16:51.45 | os_ | still using about 300 MB |
| 16:51.58 | AlexLikeRock | some wep pages faill in loop , when block ADS |
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| 16:53.05 | os_ | AlexLikeRock, i switched to amd64, after that, every thing eats every thing :D |
| 16:53.22 | AlexLikeRock | how much ram you have ? |
| 16:53.27 | os_ | 2GB |
| 16:53.31 | AlexLikeRock | LOL |
| 16:53.38 | os_ | Yes LOL |
| 16:53.46 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.48 | AlexLikeRock | to bad |
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| 16:53.56 | AlexLikeRock | yu must need 4GB |
| 16:54.01 | AlexLikeRock | go abt to X32 |
| 16:54.11 | AlexLikeRock | go back to X32 |
| 16:54.17 | os_ | i knew it |
| 16:54.35 | AlexLikeRock | very poor |
| 16:54.35 | os_ | i knew it, i knew it |
| 16:55.15 | inch | x32 or x86 :-) |
| 16:55.44 | os_ | Integers now are 8Bytes? very sad news |
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| 16:56.48 | os_ | AlexLikeRock, i have to switch it back before it eats me ... |
| 16:56.51 | inch | x32 would give best of both worlds, but are there any web browsers compiled for x32 in the apt repo? |
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| 16:57.37 | inch | https://wiki.debian.org/X32Port |
| 16:57.47 | os_ | inch, Oh! i have forgotten about multiarch |
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| 17:32.30 | Moosemorals | The free ATI drivers only work for me if I do a 'sudo modprobe radeon' before startx. How can I get the module to load automatically? |
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| 17:33.52 | Pavr | you could add it to /etc/modules |
| 17:33.53 | whiskey9 | Try "echo radeon >> /etc/modules" |
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| 17:34.54 | Moosemorals | Thanks, I've tried that, still no joy. However, looking at journalctl, I'm getting "Module 'radeon' is blacklisted" so I'm chasing that down |
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| 17:36.03 | whiskey9 | Ah, it's probably listed in a file in the /etc/modprobe.d directory |
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| 17:36.37 | Moosemorals | whiskey9, thanks, that was it |
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| 17:49.37 | g0zzy | x11vnc seems to be failing silently. Even nothing in -o vnc.log |
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| 17:50.56 | jhutchins | g0zzy: Check Xorg.0.log |
| 17:51.13 | jhutchins | g0zzy: Or Xorg.?.log |
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| 17:52.10 | g0zzy | Well i actually touched a file and then looked for any file newer. That didn't come up, but i'll look anyway ... |
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| 17:53.52 | g0zzy | Nope nothing gets in there prior to the crash |
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| 17:55.17 | g0zzy | fwiw, the command: gksu -u root -g x11vnc -shared -nopw -scale 0.85:nocr -o /tmp/vnc.log -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -display :0 |
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| 17:55.42 | Della | hi |
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| 17:55.53 | Della | im having a problem with the app videos |
| 17:56.02 | jhutchins | g0zzy: I seem to remember loading it as a module in xorg.conf. |
| 17:56.05 | Della | Failed to query: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.Tracker1.SparqlError.Internal: Error opening database |
| 17:56.14 | Della | it has always worked perfectly until know |
| 17:56.16 | Della | any idea? |
| 17:57.00 | jhutchins | Della: The application is named "videos"? Or is that just an alias for the actual app? WHat release? |
| 17:57.10 | g0zzy | Ah. I'd probably want to start it manually over ssh |
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| 17:58.40 | Della | im quit sure its named videos |
| 17:58.44 | Della | jhutchins, Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u2 (2016-10-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 17:59.12 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 17:59.13 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.11-1); stretch: 4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.11-1); jessie-backports: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.8.11-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.82-1) |
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| 18:00.58 | jhutchins | Della: No package named "videos". What you probably have is a shortcut labeled "videos" that launches the default player. You'll need to investigate the properties of the icon or menu entry, or the "Default Applications" system settings and figure out what it is. |
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| 18:01.28 | jhutchins | Della: Gnome? |
| 18:01.31 | Della | yes |
| 18:01.40 | Della | its the default player |
| 18:01.58 | Della | it sais its named videos but i dont know if that is the real name or just a label |
| 18:02.35 | Della | jhutchins, about the kernel, is there a command to get the kernel name? |
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| 18:05.24 | greycat | uname -r |
| 18:05.27 | jhutchins | Della: You appear to have used it, 3.16.36-1+debu2 |
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| 18:06.07 | greycat | jhutchins: that's a package version number, not a kernel version/name |
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| 18:06.59 | jhutchins | Which, really, is probably more useful. |
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| 18:07.42 | jhutchins | Della: Anyway, it tells us that you're running Debian 8 jessie with the current kernel. |
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| 18:09.16 | jhutchins | Della: mplayer and vlc tend to just work. For some reason, packagers try to promote more obscure players that have exceptions to what they'll play. I would suggest installing vlc or mplayer and switching the default to that rather than trying to debug it. |
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| 18:11.09 | n4dir | and even if that is no option, trying them for troubleshooting purposes might be a good idea. |
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| 18:13.36 | mdim | Can anyone ping admins of snapshot.debian.org? It's down. |
| 18:13.54 | Cattrick | where could i go and look where my virtualbox packages are now in Stretch? |
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| 18:14.50 | n4dir | what? the binaries? the installable packages? |
| 18:15.03 | Cattrick | i guess |
| 18:15.11 | n4dir | what is the actual problem? |
| 18:15.32 | Cattrick | they are not in the package repository |
| 18:15.43 | greycat | The actual problem is the user's on the wrong IRC network, and therefore also in the wrong channel. |
| 18:16.05 | Cattrick | me? wrong channel? |
| 18:16.20 | greycat | Yes, you, stretch user. |
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| 18:16.40 | greycat | !debian-next |
| 18:16.40 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 18:16.45 | Cattrick | oh, the testing rule. maaaaaannn |
| 18:17.06 | Cattrick | thanks greycat |
| 18:17.07 | n4dir | Cattrick: yes, they are not in stretch. either wait a bit or run a mixed testing/unstable, set testing to default and install virtualbox from sid. |
| 18:17.29 | Cattrick | thanks! |
| 18:17.31 | greycat | I should think backporting from sid is safer than frankendebianing. |
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| 18:17.51 | n4dir | i wouldn't call a mixed testing/unstable frankendebian. |
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| 18:18.23 | greycat | The deeper the freeze goes, the more so it will be. |
| 18:19.12 | n4dir | i'd go straight for sid, but well ... i guess opinions differ on that question |
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| 18:19.47 | Cattrick | i am thinking about it. but i was at this point several times already |
| 18:20.04 | n4dir | i my book a frankendebian is a system with third-party packages and repos (or a mixture of stable with one of testing or unstable). But: anyway .... |
| 18:20.23 | greycat | To me, it's any combination that causes a break. |
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| 18:21.00 | n4dir | Cattrick: backporting it from sid for testing, like proposal by greycat, is sure a good idea (one which will not be doubted by anyone, not depend on "opinions" |
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| 18:22.36 | n4dir | in case such problems happen again; you can use the channel bot to get the version number of packages or you can go to packages.debian.org, scroll down a bit, and enter you package in the searchbox. |
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| 18:24.30 | iLoveRussians | greycat, are you a mod/op on bash channel? |
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| 18:50.52 | jhutchins | n4dir: Mixing releases is often a bad idea regardless of which releases they are. It breaks things in ways to that are not recoverable, and shouldn't be suggested to people who may not have strong Debian troubleshooting and repair skills. |
| 18:51.26 | jhutchins | n4dir: We really can't support such systems here, as we don't know how the mix causes things to break. |
| 18:51.38 | jhutchins | n4dir: You're welcome to do it, but please dont' suggest it. |
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| 18:52.08 | n4dir | could swear even the bot mentions it, but hey, i really don't mind. |
| 18:53.15 | jhutchins | n4dir: Nope, bot has specific cautions against it. /msg dpkg frankendebian |
| 18:53.25 | n4dir | that is: will try hard to avoid mentioning it again (but it is in the memory muscles, so not bad intention in case it happens again) |
| 18:53.31 | n4dir | !dpkg mixed |
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| 18:54.23 | Della | jhutchins, sry i was afk |
| 18:54.24 | Aquarius1 | hi, i am trying to connect my Dell XPS laptop by HDMI to a TV. When I go Settings-->Display I see no display except from the desktop. i tried google but found nothing which helped me. I run Debian Jessie with XFCE. Anyone for help? |
| 18:54.30 | Della | ill install mplayer ty |
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| 18:55.20 | jelly | n4dir, probably /msg dpkg tum |
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| 18:55.49 | n4dir | thanks jelly that was it. |
| 18:56.36 | Della | whats is the cleanest way to install a dependency? |
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| 18:57.40 | jelly | Della, dependencies are typically handled automatically. Why do you ask?> |
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| 18:59.22 | Della | cause one day i started touching things (without having any idea) and now every time I apt-get update a get a lot of errors |
| 18:59.30 | Della | the thing is i was going to install mplauer |
| 18:59.32 | jelly | !bat |
| 18:59.32 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 18:59.33 | teraflops | hehe |
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| 18:59.48 | jelly | Della, ^^ provide ALL the information |
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| 18:59.57 | Della | wow |
| 19:00.15 | Della | the thing is when i install something i get this: |
| 19:00.16 | Della | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.21 | jelly | (also, mpv is probably a better option than mplayer in jessie) |
| 19:00.47 | Della | i have already installed vlc |
| 19:00.49 | Della | so np |
| 19:01.14 | Della | i get this everytime i install something |
| 19:01.14 | Della | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.20 | jelly | Della, no. Don't paste here. Read what dpkg said carefully, then upload outputs of all of those commands |
| 19:01.22 | Della | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:01.35 | Della | woops |
| 19:01.37 | Della | too late |
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| 19:01.39 | Della | its just that |
| 19:01.51 | jelly | it's never just that. |
| 19:02.15 | Della | ik |
| 19:02.15 | jelly | there's lots more output before it, and probably some after. |
| 19:02.26 | Della | but that is what repeats about 50 times |
| 19:02.32 | Della | yes |
| 19:02.37 | Della | there is a bunch of output |
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| 19:02.48 | greycat | uses mplayer in jessie, admittedly not a *lot*, but does not know what the problem is supposed to be, because he hasn't had one |
| 19:03.13 | Della | reading the output |
| 19:03.31 | `Kevin | just paste it all @ pastebin :P |
| 19:03.41 | jelly | mpv has saner defaults, and can use accelerated paths with less fuss. But it loses some features |
| 19:03.52 | jelly | aalib output is gone! |
| 19:03.59 | Della | the main problem is dpkg: error processing package linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 |
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| 19:04.11 | Della | and that seems to be something important |
| 19:04.25 | Della | jelly is mpv better than vlc? |
| 19:04.28 | greycat | That's a header telling that there's an error about to be shown. |
| 19:04.46 | `Kevin | Della: thats somewhat clear due to mkinitramfs but you need to pastebin the entire output |
| 19:04.51 | greycat | Or, it's a footer telling you the context for all of those errors that were previously shown. |
| 19:04.55 | Della | alright |
| 19:04.58 | Della | let me pastebin it |
| 19:05.05 | jelly | Della, if you want decent help, do try to follow what dpkg said and provide complete outputs of all those commands, first |
| 19:05.19 | Della | alright |
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| 19:08.49 | jelly | reads the contents of /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs and shudders |
| 19:09.30 | Della | http://pastebin.com/eTjhRbB3 |
| 19:09.30 | greycat | hopes the mental damage is not permanent |
| 19:09.53 | Della | it seems pretty bad |
| 19:10.04 | Della | 1324 lines of output... |
| 19:10.04 | n4dir | Della: it would be way better if you pastebin a bit of real information |
| 19:10.17 | n4dir | sorry, my fault, something went south |
| 19:10.18 | greycat | n4dir: this was requested |
| 19:10.24 | Della | hahaha lol |
| 19:10.26 | Della | np dude |
| 19:10.34 | n4dir | like said Della sorry |
| 19:10.35 | Della | im the n00b here so...yeah |
| 19:10.46 | Della | guys ty sooo much for tryign to help |
| 19:10.52 | Della | i rly appreciate it |
| 19:10.59 | `Kevin | Della: |
| 19:11.02 | `Kevin | which install |
| 19:11.35 | Della | Debian 8 jessie |
| 19:11.55 | jhutchins | I thought debian used drakut these days. |
| 19:11.58 | greycat | Della: No, he means "run this command: which install" |
| 19:12.32 | Della | ohh |
| 19:12.33 | `Kevin | ^ sorry :) |
| 19:12.49 | Della | nothing happens |
| 19:12.53 | Della | there is no output returned |
| 19:12.55 | greycat | ls -ld /usr/bin/install |
| 19:13.02 | teraflops | Della: nah it's `Kevin's fault dor not using `` xD |
| 19:13.20 | `Kevin | Della: what greycat said and... dpkg -l coreutils |
| 19:13.25 | greycat | Use of `...` around shell commands in IRC is a horribly confusing practice that I hope ends. |
| 19:13.27 | Della | No such file or directory greycat |
| 19:13.47 | `Kevin | Della: dpkg -l coreutils |
| 19:13.50 | greycat | Somehow you have lost the /usr/bin/install command which is supposed to be in coreutils |
| 19:13.51 | jhutchins | I think I would re-install initramfs-tools |
| 19:13.59 | Della | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 19:13.59 | Della | | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |
| 19:13.59 | Della | |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) |
| 19:13.59 | Della | ||/ Name Version Architecture Description |
| 19:13.59 | Della | +++-====================-===============-===============-============================================= |
| 19:14.00 | Della | ii coreutils 8.23-4 amd64 GNU core utilities |
| 19:14.00 | teraflops | greycat: cursive is fine? |
| 19:14.00 | *** kick/#debian [Della!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.) |
| 19:14.00 | greycat | jhutchins: can't until coreutils is fixed |
| 19:14.15 | jhutchins | greycat: Good point. |
| 19:14.24 | n4dir | apt-get build-dep ; is the wrong command. |
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| 19:14.43 | Della | alright |
| 19:14.47 | jhutchins | ,v mplayer |
| 19:14.48 | judd | Package: mplayer on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn34540-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 2:1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn34540-1+deb7u2; stretch: 2:1.3.0-5; sid: 2:1.3.0-6; wheezy-multimedia: 3:1.1.1-dmo4.wheezy1; jessie-multimedia: 3:1.1.1+20150226+svn37375-dmo5+deb8u3; sid-multimedia: 4:1.3.0~20161222.svn37905-dmo1 |
| 19:14.50 | Della | ill take that was a warning |
| 19:15.06 | greycat | Della: you're going to need to reinstall coreutils |
| 19:15.07 | jhutchins | Della: It's automatic. |
| 19:15.25 | Della | is that a big deal greycat ? |
| 19:15.30 | n4dir | won't hurt to post the sources list before. imho, of course |
| 19:15.34 | Della | yeah ik jhutchins ty either way |
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| 19:15.57 | greycat | Della: Hard to guess... maybe easy. Try "apt-get --reinstall install coreutils" first and see if that works. |
| 19:16.24 | Della | running |
| 19:16.47 | Della | unpacking core-utils |
| 19:16.48 | jhutchins | Della: I don't think mplayer is in the regular jessie repositories, I get mine from https://deb-multimedia.org/ but that is NOT an official repository. |
| 19:17.07 | Della | seems to work |
| 19:17.24 | Della | yeah, its not just the mplayer thing |
| 19:17.32 | Della | its basically the error |
| 19:17.43 | Della | as it happens every single time i install something |
| 19:17.44 | n4dir | jhutchins: no need to guess: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mplayer&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
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| 19:18.00 | Della | greycat, the command worked |
| 19:18.04 | Della | i think its reinstalled |
| 19:18.08 | Della | how can i test? |
| 19:18.13 | `Kevin | Della: after reinstall try the which command again "which install" |
| 19:18.15 | greycat | Try your other command that was failing. |
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| 19:18.22 | greycat | Also that. |
| 19:18.28 | Della | yeah |
| 19:18.39 | Della | . |
| 19:18.52 | Della | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:19.01 | greycat | that's good |
| 19:19.05 | Della | goood |
| 19:19.14 | Della | is that it? |
| 19:19.28 | greycat | Try your original command that was failing. |
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| 19:20.16 | Della | now it gives no errors |
| 19:20.21 | Della | that seems right |
| 19:20.51 | jhutchins | Della: You might want to do aptitude -f install to fix anything that didn't get completed properly. |
| 19:21.15 | greycat | or apt-get -f install, if you don't normally use aptitude |
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| 19:22.13 | Della | guys THANK YOU so much for all ur help, i love ya all |
| 19:22.22 | Della | it all werked well!! |
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| 19:22.52 | Della | greycat jhutchins `Kevin n4dir thank you all so much |
| 19:22.53 | jhutchins | Della: You may even find that the original video player works now, especially after a reboot. |
| 19:23.07 | Della | im upgrading |
| 19:23.09 | `Kevin | Della: yep :) |
| 19:23.12 | Della | when im done ill reboot |
| 19:23.16 | Della | and then ill try it |
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| 19:23.28 | jelly | ,v mplayer |
| 19:23.29 | judd | Package: mplayer on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn34540-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 2:1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn34540-1+deb7u2; stretch: 2:1.3.0-5; sid: 2:1.3.0-6; wheezy-multimedia: 3:1.1.1-dmo4.wheezy1; jessie-multimedia: 3:1.1.1+20150226+svn37375-dmo5+deb8u3; sid-multimedia: 4:1.3.0~20161222.svn37905-dmo1 |
| 19:23.34 | jelly | ,v mplayer2 |
| 19:23.36 | judd | Package: mplayer2 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.0-554-gf63dbad-1+b1; wheezy-security: 2.0-554-gf63dbad-1+deb7u1; jessie: 2.0-728-g2c378c7-4+b1; wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.0~git20120817-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 1:2.0~git20130903-dmo7; sid: 2:1.3.0-3; stretch: 3:0.21.0-2; stretch: 3:0.22.0-1; sid: 3:0.22.0-1 |
| 19:23.54 | Della | k im going to go know |
| 19:24.01 | Della | thank u all again |
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| 19:25.03 | karstensrage | i have a library that im writing that does Naming services |
| 19:25.28 | Cattrick | where could be the problem when CTRL+ALT+F2 no longer switches to a console? |
| 19:25.35 | karstensrage | if i restart the machine with the library, it fails random things and systemd-logind and account services |
| 19:25.41 | karstensrage | and never boots |
| 19:26.01 | karstensrage | but if i go into recovery mode, remove the library, and restart, it boots fine but i cant find a way to debug it |
| 19:26.13 | greycat | Cattrick: usually bad video drivers vs. video chipset |
| 19:26.42 | karstensrage | can anyone suggest how to debug the problem? |
| 19:27.10 | karstensrage | its making a call to the naming services presumably with getpwname("*") |
| 19:27.14 | karstensrage | but i cant figure out where |
| 19:27.19 | karstensrage | or what its expecting |
| 19:27.35 | karstensrage | getpwnam("*") |
| 19:27.39 | greycat | This isn't really the best channel for debugging C programs. |
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| 19:27.48 | karstensrage | well its only on debian systems |
| 19:27.53 | karstensrage | but where else could I go |
| 19:28.18 | karstensrage | its on boot of the system,the library works fine if hte machine is running |
| 19:28.29 | greycat | Wait, "presumably"? You don't KNOW how your own code works? |
| 19:29.12 | greycat | Are you saying the problem only occurs during the initramfs stages? Maybe you just need to include it in your initramfs images. |
| 19:29.57 | karstensrage | greycat, no i can see somewhere in the boot process it seems to be making a call to something like getpwnam("*") |
| 19:30.15 | karstensrage | the boot process doing that |
| 19:30.32 | greycat | stops trying |
| 19:30.53 | karstensrage | i do know how my own code works it ends up processing that call in _nss_mylib_getpwnam_r and returns with errnop set to ENOENT |
| 19:31.00 | karstensrage | and NSS_STATUS_NOTFOUND |
| 19:32.20 | jelly | karstensrage, eh, grab the process name and pid and its parent and log it somewhere |
| 19:32.50 | jhutchins | jelly: Thanks, I had forgotten about that. |
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| 19:35.37 | breedx | In sid, nvidia-driver isn't building on 4.8.0-2-rt-amd64. Sound right? |
| 19:35.59 | greycat | You should know better than to ask sid questions here. |
| 19:36.15 | jelly | breedx, it's sid |
| 19:36.24 | breedx | greycat: sorry, better channel or just "you're at your own risk so don't bother asking n00b"? |
| 19:36.33 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 19:36.34 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 19:36.50 | breedx | cool, thanks. |
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| 19:37.13 | jelly | breedx, it's in the topic. |
| 19:37.26 | jhutchins | jelly: The URL listed in the metadata for mplayer2 is invalid. |
| 19:38.10 | breedx | jelly: my terminal wasn't wide enough to see it! :) |
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| 19:40.49 | jelly | jhutchins, I don't have an opinion on that |
| 19:41.30 | someone2342345 | Hello everyone, I have a problem with a package update and I'm trying to reinstall the older version. When running apt-cache madison <package> it shows two available versions. But if I try apt install <package>=<version> it says that this version cannot be found |
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| 19:42.02 | someone2342345 | One of the versions is on backports and the other is on jessie/stable |
| 19:42.12 | someone2342345 | Would this be the cause of the problem? |
| 19:42.45 | jelly | someone2342345, run an "apt-get update" first. Then paste the complete outputs of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy packagename" and your installation command, with the command line included |
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| 19:43.13 | jelly | or as the bot says, |
| 19:43.19 | jelly | !basic apt troubleshooting |
| 19:43.19 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 19:45.04 | someone2342345 | I'll do that now |
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| 19:46.58 | jhutchins | jelly: A brief investigation appears to agree that mplayer2 is dead, but that mpv has incorporated both the original mplayer plus the improvements of mpv and has continued new development. |
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| 19:53.02 | someone2342345 | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a239ccfe/ https://paste.debian.net/hidden/b0e4acc7/ https://paste.debian.net/904280/ https://paste.debian.net/hidden/ffa3488a/ |
| 19:53.28 | someone2342345 | It shows up with apt-cache madison but not via apt-cache policy <package> |
| 19:56.56 | jhutchins | someone2342345: Substitute the actual package name for <package> |
| 19:57.24 | someone2342345 | apt-cache policy nvidia-settings |
| 19:57.29 | jelly | someone2342345, you don't have non-free enabled for the main repo? |
| 19:59.06 | jelly | ,v nvidia-settings |
| 19:59.07 | judd | Package: nvidia-settings on amd64 -- wheezy/contrib: 304.88-1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 319.72-1~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 340.46-2; stretch/contrib: 361.45.11-1; jessie-backports/contrib: 367.57-1~bpo8+1; sid/contrib: 370.28-1 |
| 19:59.27 | jelly | no contrib either |
| 19:59.56 | someone2342345 | I'm an idiot, that fixed it |
| 20:00.03 | someone2342345 | Thank you very much! |
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| 20:03.41 | jelly | that's why the bot asks for all the things, makes it easier to spot issues like that |
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| 20:06.06 | ksft | I put an SD card in my computer, but df isn't showing anything different |
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| 20:06.58 | zleap | hi does anyone know where i can get a new version of the understanding debian infographic ? |
| 20:07.40 | zleap | please |
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| 20:10.41 | awal1 | zleap: understanding debian infographic? |
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| 20:12.14 | zleap | awal1: http://visual.ly/understanding-debian |
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| 20:14.35 | jhutchins | zleap: What makes you think there is one? |
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| 20:16.04 | jhutchins | zleap: Besides, I don't think that's accurate. Testing is for testing the release, not for general users. |
| 20:16.20 | zleap | it jujst shows the history of debian |
| 20:16.22 | jhutchins | zleap: General users are not expected to be able to deal with the problems that happen when testing breaks. |
| 20:16.26 | jhutchins | zleap: Not really. |
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| 20:16.47 | zleap | i just find the info graphic interesting |
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| 20:19.06 | zleap | https://www.dropbox.com/s/b6lnj08xzpypt6j/understanding_debian.png?dl=0 |
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| 20:31.02 | zleap | jhutchins: so far the most recent one has Jessie(8) as testing, so i was just asking if it had been updated |
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| 20:33.17 | dontknow | when jessie became LTS, will it get latest firefox updates? |
| 20:34.01 | dontknow | i am planing to use jessie after 3 years |
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| 20:38.08 | haba713 | hi! see https://paste.debian.net/plainh/1e176884 why does mysql listen *:3306? it should listen only 127.0.0.1:3306. host is debian stretch. |
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| 20:38.43 | petn-randall | dontknow: It will probably get Firefox ESR updates just like before. |
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| 20:38.56 | dontknow | great |
| 20:38.56 | petn-randall | !debian-next |
| 20:38.56 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 20:39.01 | petn-randall | haba713: ^^^ |
| 20:39.24 | haba713 | ok ok |
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| 21:29.59 | mrproper | I have a Debian server which I use SSH to login to. It uses key based authentication and not password based authentication for mortal users. My MacOS system, which has worked fine this way for years, now is being prompted for my key passphrase. Why would this be? |
| 21:30.26 | greycat | Do other clients still work correctly against this same server? |
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| 21:32.15 | mrproper | greycat: Yes it works with my iPad. |
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| 21:32.53 | greycat | Then either something on this client changed (e.g. key is no longer readable, passphrase is no longer being fed by an ssh-agent), or something changed on the server (rejecting whatever ciphers/KEX algorithms the client is trying to use). |
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| 21:33.24 | greycat | Which one did you change? |
| 21:33.47 | mrproper | I havenât changed anything, thatâs the concerning part. |
| 21:34.23 | greycat | Verify that the key is present and readable and that you are supplying the passphrase if it has one. |
| 21:34.40 | mrproper | I do supply the passphrase and it logs in. But when I exit and reconnect it asks for the passphrase again. |
| 21:35.00 | greycat | passPHRASE on a key is nothing at all like the passWORD to login to a server |
| 21:35.19 | mrproper | Enter passphrase for key '/Users/kbreit/.ssh/id_rsa': |
| 21:35.45 | greycat | Oh, I misread the question initially. |
| 21:36.11 | greycat | So it's JUST the client side that is in question here. Key works once you give the passphrase, no problem on the server end, and you're just wondering why your ssh-agent isn't working? |
| 21:36.19 | greycat | Then since the client is not Debian, I don't know how we can help. |
| 21:36.46 | mrproper | So youâd say it is indeed a client issue and not a server side issue. I can see that because my iPad works with key based login to the same server and the same user, just not this one systme. |
| 21:37.00 | mrproper | And yes, it works once I give the key password. |
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| 21:39.40 | mrproper | I may try to recreate my local key and see if that helps. |
| 21:40.03 | greycat | The key works, you said. Figure out why it's not in your agent. |
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| 21:40.17 | greycat | Ask the mac channel or the #openssh channel (if you're using openssh). |
| 21:42.16 | mrproper | greycat: Problem solved. My client needed AddKeystoAgent yes added to .ssh/config |
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| 21:56.57 | karstensrage | ah jelly thanks, so its resolvconf making the odd request, now i have to try and find resolvconf source code? |
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| 21:57.20 | greycat | Or just remove it. |
| 21:57.37 | karstensrage | remove what? |
| 21:57.43 | greycat | resolvconf |
| 21:57.45 | karstensrage | ? |
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| 21:59.41 | greycat | assumes the problem you're trying to solve is "my comupter does this bad thing, make it stop" and not "I am writing an application that has to be able to survive on computers with every stupid shit thing installed including resolvconf" |
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| 22:02.36 | karstensrage | no thats not the case, this not for my machine its just for development |
| 22:02.48 | karstensrage | more the latter |
| 22:03.09 | karstensrage | and yes every stupid shit |
| 22:03.25 | karstensrage | its kind of rich saying that in #debian though |
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| 22:22.01 | andy_zero | Hi |
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| 22:28.37 | n4dir | surf and uzbl segfault, firefox crashes often and netsurf works, but is quite slow. It's stable on an iMac G5 (specs are low, but not that low): |
| 22:28.44 | n4dir | http://paste.debian.net/904313/ |
| 22:29.02 | n4dir | http://paste.debian.net/904314/ |
| 22:29.03 | andy_zero | what's this |
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| 22:29.48 | n4dir | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.47 | AciD` | dang, the last zsh update in testing really is f*cked up |
| 22:31.06 | AciD` | no moar tab completion :o |
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| 22:39.51 | teclo- | AciD`: you know, bash has tab completion ;) |
| 22:40.26 | AciD` | teclo- -> yes, a dumb one that shows you file names when you use tab after `cd` for instance. No thank you |
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| 22:40.50 | teclo- | AciD`: indeed, zsh is much better, I was kinda joking ;) |
| 22:40.54 | AciD` | ;) |
| 22:41.16 | n4dir | mine sure doesn't show me filenames after cd-tab ... |
| 22:41.17 | ohemdevin | I like fish, but I haven't used zsh yet |
| 22:41.28 | AciD` | to be honest, I don't get why the bash mainteners do not upgrade it to 'modern' uses |
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| 22:41.45 | AciD` | ohemdevin -> if you try it, be sure to visit oh-my-zsh |
| 22:41.59 | ohemdevin | Yep, I've been told zsh is great with extensions. |
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| 22:42.47 | sn00p | How do I compile a binary file in debian? |
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| 22:49.47 | teraflops | use a compiler |
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| 22:51.03 | mxf | Hey there. How do I install 'libpng++-dev' on a recent testing? apt and apt-get tries to match by regex and installs libpng-dev instead. |
| 22:51.24 | mxf | If I backslash escape it, it can't be found. |
| 22:51.30 | raynold | ahh it's a wonderful day |
| 22:51.50 | n4dir | sn00p: https://wiki.debian.org/Packaging/Intro?highlight=%28%5CbCategoryPackaging%5Cb%29 |
| 22:52.08 | n4dir | !dpkg dpkg-buildpackage |
| 22:52.09 | dpkg | dpkg-buildpackage is probably a program in the dpkg-dev package that builds .debs from source. "aptitude install fakeroot devscripts dpkg-dev build-essential" and run 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot' in the source directory. Ask me about <package recompile> <debian/rules> <source>. |
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| 22:55.53 | mxf | I guess as a workaround I can download the .deb manually and install it via dpkg -i. But there *has* to be a way to install it proper, nor? |
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| 22:56.55 | babilen | mxf: Works fine here (on sid) -- mind showing the output? |
| 22:58.44 | mxf | babilen, AHA! I'm on amd64, and tried to install the i386 on a multi-arch system (as in "apt-get install 'libpng++-dev:i386'") |
| 22:58.59 | mxf | babilen, the non-multi arch one WFM, too. |
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| 23:03.32 | mxf | so I guess my question is now, how can i specify i386 in another way? Should I use -a? (this fails with "Command line option 'a' [from -a i386] is not understood in combination with the other options.") |
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| 23:06.19 | mxf | babilen, https://paste.debian.net/904315 |
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| 23:42.35 | techno2900 | Hello, I would like to know if it's possible to create a wifi hotspot and share a vpn connection on it like on windows |
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| 23:45.03 | techno2900 | thank you in advance ! |
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