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| 01:24.39 | awal1 | I don't understand how/why debian will include a completely broken pkg such as 'zekr'. it miss dependency on libgtkwebkit-1.0-0, misses feature being ttf-me-quran non available in debian, crashing and becoming unresponsive when clicking in audio buttons, half of it's features not working... |
| 01:25.14 | awal1 | why/will include in next stable release ^ |
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| 01:27.22 | awal1 | zekr requires around 300 mb disk space |
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| 01:28.05 | awal1 | which kind of bugs prevents a given pkg from being released with stable? only grave and serious bugs? |
| 01:28.23 | themill | awal1: packages are only as good as the testing they get and the bug reports that get filed against them. Thanks for filing #849836 -- you could have made it "serious" btw, as missing dependencies are a violation of policy |
| 01:29.04 | awal1 | themill: how to change the severity? |
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| 01:32.31 | missmbob | awal1: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control#severity setting it as serious makes it release-critical, btw. |
| 01:33.56 | awal1_ | missmbob: ok, thanks. I got disconnected (wifi problems) , I may have missed themill answer too |
| 01:35.19 | awal1_ | missmbob: looks like only the responsible of the pkg or another DD/debian maintainer can change the severity |
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| 01:36.54 | WindowsXPForever | How do I upgrade my whole system to the next version? Some packages aren't installing anymore because they aren't found. I think my system must be out of date. |
| 01:37.23 | nkuttler | !tell WindowsXPForever about bat |
| 01:37.27 | nkuttler | !tell WindowsXPForever about errors |
| 01:37.48 | awal1_ | WindowsXPForever: which version of debian are you running? |
| 01:38.29 | WindowsXPForever | I don't even know that. I remember something about version 6 if that means anything |
| 01:38.46 | WindowsXPForever | It's currently kernel panicked so I can't access it at the moment |
| 01:39.32 | themill | awal1_: you can change the severity on any bug; if the maintainer disagrees then they have the final say. In the case where there are missing dependencies, the maintainer isn't going to disagree (unless of course it's a matter or installing Recommends or not, which appears not to be the case here) |
| 01:39.43 | WindowsXPForever | I'll go reset it |
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| 01:40.30 | awal1_ | themill: ok, I confess I dont understand how to do so even checking missmbob link :P |
| 01:41.15 | awal1_ | WindowsXPForever: run this command in terminal: lsb_release -a and paste output in paste.debian.net |
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| 01:44.19 | WindowsXPForever | Does debian come with a paste (auto upload to pastebin) command like Gentoo does? |
| 01:44.32 | awal1_ | pastebinit |
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| 01:46.06 | WindowsXPForever | awal1_, my release is Description: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.8 (squeeze). I don't see an obvious need to share the several other lines. |
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| 01:48.13 | ghostinzshell | I've installed Firefox from the mozilla.debian.net repo, but GNOME seems to be confusing Firefox & Firefox ESR when showing running instances. There's a discussion on StackExchange (https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/314338/gnome-confuses-names-of-multiple-different-firefox-installations/314833) that talks about it but I'm not sure how to implement the solution suggested. Help? |
| 01:48.25 | awal1_ | WindowsXPForever: I'm off. I don't like your nickname; you seem like a troll :P |
| 01:49.01 | WindowsXPForever | If Donald Trump is racist, then I am a troll. |
| 01:50.10 | prussian | pretty sure squeeze is well past EOL as of this year |
| 01:50.32 | prussian | you need to upgrade. either by dist-upgrade or just install the latest stable |
| 01:51.02 | WindowsXPForever | latest stable off the CD/DVD? |
| 01:51.10 | WindowsXPForever | dist-upgrade is the command that I forgot |
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| 01:51.33 | WindowsXPForever | If there's some documentation on the system that covers these basic thing I sure don't know about it |
| 01:52.08 | bazhang | the debian wiki |
| 01:52.29 | bazhang | !wiki |
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| 01:55.13 | mystified | Hi Just installed debian. |
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| 01:55.56 | mystified | for some reason my user name is not root |
| 01:56.15 | mystified | how can I add myself to the root wheel |
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| 01:56.43 | ghostinzshell | mystified: Did you give the root account a password during installation? |
| 01:56.48 | themill | Debian is not BSD. What are you really trying to do? |
| 01:57.16 | mystified | I wish to install apps from terminal |
| 01:57.30 | mystified | I'm not permitted as it states i'm not root |
| 01:57.44 | mystified | BTW.. Thanks for offering help |
| 01:57.48 | nkuttler | mystified: the installer asks you for a root password. or did you install sudo? |
| 01:57.52 | mystified | & Happy New Year |
| 01:58.12 | mystified | I assumed I added it correctly |
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| 01:58.35 | mystified | when I go "CTRL + F2" |
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| 01:58.42 | mystified | my root password works |
| 01:59.10 | mystified | LOGIN password works |
| 01:59.16 | ghostinzshell | mystified: You can use `su` in the terminal, input your root password and then proceed to install software. |
| 01:59.28 | mystified | But when in xfce & go sudo |
| 01:59.35 | mystified | password not accepted |
| 01:59.37 | nkuttler | mystified: sudo takes the user password, not root |
| 01:59.41 | mystified | I'm the only user |
| 01:59.55 | nkuttler | mystified: you give sudo *your* password, not the root password |
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| 02:01.46 | awal1_ | mystified: durring install if you dont create root passwd root login is disabled and sudo enabled. |
| 02:01.57 | mystified | Ah, found the prob. |
| 02:02.01 | mystified | Stupid me |
| 02:02.09 | mystified | I had synaptic open |
| 02:02.33 | mystified | now ok. |
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| 02:02.57 | mystified | I was also trying to use sudo -i & su -i |
| 02:03.00 | mystified | not su |
| 02:03.05 | awal1_ | you can enbable it by running: sudo passwd -u root |
| 02:03.21 | mystified | Thanks guys for all your help |
| 02:03.31 | awal1_ | then you'll be able to log as root (su , su - ...) |
| 02:03.51 | mystified | awal1 will do now |
| 02:04.08 | mystified | Have not used deb for about 6yrs. |
| 02:04.30 | awal1_ | you can use sudo su / sudo su - and so |
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| 02:04.39 | themill | You probably want to add yourself to the sudo group and then just use sudo. |
| 02:04.46 | awal1_ | not mandatory enable root login |
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| 02:07.19 | mystified | what is the command to list pkg info I wish to see if I have install nvidia-340 |
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| 02:10.48 | awal1_ | mystified: what you mean? |
| 02:11.30 | mystified | find pkg info of a specific pkg |
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| 02:12.22 | awal1_ | apt-cache show pkgname or aptitude show pkgname ? |
| 02:13.17 | awal1_ | or man pkgname |
| 02:14.40 | mystified | I want to install nvida-340 |
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| 02:16.13 | awal1_ | , nvidia-340 |
| 02:16.28 | awal1_ | ,v nvidia-340 |
| 02:16.29 | judd | No package named 'nvidia-340' was found in amd64. |
| 02:17.22 | missmbob | mystified: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Version_340.96 |
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| 02:21.36 | mystified | thx awal1 |
| 02:22.07 | missmbob | :P |
| 02:22.50 | awal1_ | :D |
| 02:23.07 | mystified | Installing through synaptic |
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| 02:33.04 | redrabbit | is there a way to automatically pick yes/no answer on dpkg -i blue bg popup |
| 02:33.40 | themill | redrabbit: that depends on what the question is |
| 02:33.59 | redrabbit | i install a folder of .deb |
| 02:34.02 | themill | (or rather, yes there is, but how depends on the question) |
| 02:34.07 | redrabbit | two of them ask me a YES/NO question |
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| 02:34.17 | redrabbit | one i want to answer yes, the other no |
| 02:34.27 | themill | It still depends on the question... |
| 02:34.42 | redrabbit | from a script id run 1 time on first boot |
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| 02:35.40 | redrabbit | questions are, shoud installer automatically restart services while installing > i want to answer yes |
| 02:35.45 | redrabbit | default is no |
| 02:35.55 | themill | which package is asking that? |
| 02:36.19 | redrabbit | question 2 is machanger asking the usual stuff |
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| 02:38.24 | redrabbit | something like that |
| 02:38.25 | redrabbit | https://i.imgur.com/U4Czr11.png |
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| 02:39.26 | themill | redrabbit: so the package is libssl1.0.0 just as shown. |
| 02:39.29 | redrabbit | mhh apparently all i need is to set DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive |
| 02:39.31 | themill | dpkg: tell redrabbit about debconf-set-selections |
| 02:40.26 | themill | Yes, you need DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive, but you also need to set the value for the question in adance |
| 02:40.57 | redrabbit | its going to go for the default like that right |
| 02:41.01 | redrabbit | ? |
| 02:41.13 | redrabbit | i might try this |
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| 02:41.44 | themill | if debconf is run in non-interactive mode, then your currently set value in the debconf database will be used for that question |
| 02:42.03 | redrabbit | all right good to know |
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| 02:44.38 | themill | in fact, the libraries/restart-without-asking debconf key might be even more useful |
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| 02:51.20 | nohacker | Not only did russia manipulate the elections, russia took over all media using indians working there and is now absolutely manipulating the media by force. I am a personal witness to this, because my blog is being suppressed: http://pressthejustice.wordpress.com |
| 02:51.36 | tomreyn | ^ spamming #ubuntu, too |
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| 02:51.48 | nohacker | ur russian? |
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| 03:12.19 | cereal_poster | happy new years guys! |
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| 03:12.37 | cereal_poster | year* correction |
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| 03:18.43 | efloid | someone posted this earlier in #newyears, if you want to see the 2016 Holisecond frozen in time: TZ='right/Europe/London' date --date='@1483228826' |
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| 03:28.15 | tacocat | efloid: what's a holisecond? |
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| 03:29.05 | preaction | a holiday, but for a second |
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| 03:31.18 | efloid | ^^^ |
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| 03:33.59 | echosystm | i'm using a debain box as a router |
| 03:34.09 | echosystm | but some websites don't work and i can't figure out why |
| 03:34.27 | echosystm | i can ping them, so DNS is fine, but nothing happens over tcp port 80 |
| 03:34.33 | echosystm | any ideas? |
| 03:36.00 | echosystm | actually nvm i need a coffee before i take this on >.< |
| 03:36.02 | echosystm | ciao |
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| 03:58.24 | jscoder | does anyone know what the purpose was of these gnumach 486 images being included? |
| 04:00.07 | jscoder | I was doing a chroot install to a usb hd and after I debootstrapped and looked for a kernel the only thing coming up was gnumach. I of course did an apt-get update and found the linux-image packages but the gnumach thing is news to me |
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| 04:06.46 | WindowsXPForever | efloid, Is there a country that is changing their calendar? |
| 04:07.13 | WindowsXPForever | I'm trying to install memtest86 on squeeze (version 6) before upgrading the system |
| 04:07.38 | jscoder | heh |
| 04:08.06 | WindowsXPForever | but it won't install because the servers no longer have the file |
| 04:09.28 | jscoder | WindowsXPForever: well, the good news is, memtest86 only depends on debconf |
| 04:09.57 | jscoder | which means of course that you could pull any version, such as the one from jessie and it'd likely install without problems |
| 04:10.23 | WindowsXPForever | good to know |
| 04:10.30 | WindowsXPForever | and grub-legacy? |
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| 04:11.39 | jscoder | WindowsXPForever: you know there are archive mirrors right? |
| 04:11.59 | jscoder | and as for memtest86 I'm pretty sure its not missing, it was never there to begin with |
| 04:12.11 | jscoder | its only recently that debian had a memtest86 package |
| 04:13.11 | jscoder | WindowsXPForever: https://www.debian.org/distrib/archive has binaries archived all the way back to hamm (2.0) |
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| 04:14.17 | WindowsXPForever | just found that thanks |
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| 04:15.06 | jscoder | yeah, and grub back then was all "legacy" as in not grub2 if I recall, but there is a grub-legacy package that is 0.97 as opposed to 0.98 or whatever |
| 04:15.40 | jscoder | erm actually it was 1.98, so hmm.. maybe it was grub2.. |
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| 04:18.00 | jscoder | WindowsXPForever: and for the record I find most widely celebrated holidays overrated. |
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| 04:24.32 | jscoder | thinks if this dpkg process unpacked packages any slower it'd be packing them back up |
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| 04:40.55 | jscoder | hmm.. try as I might, I cannot figure this damn grub out. it does too much automagically and doesn't seem to document any way of telling it what you actually want done |
| 04:43.14 | jscoder | I'm running jessie off a thumbdrive and installing jessie onto usb hdd, and I just want to install the bootloader on the hdd only with the entries for the os ON THAT drive using UUIDs so it'll boot properly no matter how its attached |
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| 04:51.26 | pfred1 | I got a plate of chips so now it's a party! |
| 04:51.54 | pfred1 | whoops wrong channel |
| 04:52.34 | jscoder | heh. You gotta have dip for it to be a party |
| 04:53.05 | jscoder | ENODIP: Fail! |
| 04:55.21 | jscoder | I'm having a towlie moment here myself <towlie>I have no idea what's going on</towlie>.. if I sat here all week I probably still won't understand how to use grub. I should have just installed using debian-installer and let it f' this up. |
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| 04:57.39 | jscoder | they need to make one of those for dummies books for grub |
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| 05:07.57 | mrrhq-mobile | jscoder: Is it not working and just sending you to a rescue shell? |
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| 05:13.56 | jscoder | mrrhq-mobile: no, I just have no clue how to even install it |
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| 05:14.26 | mrrhq-mobile | grub-install /dev/sda |
| 05:14.32 | jscoder | mrrhq-mobile: I don't know if I should bind mount /dev/ and do it in the chroot or what |
| 05:14.33 | mrrhq-mobile | Usually. |
| 05:14.57 | mrrhq-mobile | I'd do it from a live usb/cd. |
| 05:15.14 | jscoder | mrrhq-mobile: yeah well this isn't usually.. sda is a windows drive internal, sdb is the thumbdrive I'm running lenny from now, and sdc is the usb hdd I'm installing to |
| 05:15.26 | jscoder | I don't want any of sda or sdb in the bootloader |
| 05:15.42 | jscoder | erm.. jessie not lenny |
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| 05:16.39 | mrrhq-mobile | Then just replace sda with sdc, and tell your BIOS to boot from it, first. |
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| 05:18.51 | fuddie | happy gnu/year everybody! |
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| 05:20.30 | jscoder | wow, horrible pun |
| 05:21.08 | jscoder | besides it's still 2016 in that world we watch on TV here in the US |
| 05:21.31 | fuddie | not for long |
| 05:21.32 | jscoder | otherwise known as the left coast, california, hollywood.. etc |
| 05:22.13 | jscoder | sighs |
| 05:22.14 | fuddie | and the democractic people's republic of California is only one |
| 05:22.36 | fuddie | there is also washington, home to microsoft and street pooping |
| 05:22.43 | jscoder | heh |
| 05:23.12 | fuddie | and oregon |
| 05:23.14 | fuddie | home of |
| 05:23.19 | fuddie | linus |
| 05:23.31 | fuddie | that is pretty much all we have though is linus :( |
| 05:23.41 | jscoder | san francisco and fellatio on the corner |
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| 05:24.54 | jscoder | anyhow. I still am clueless. grub-install from inside the chroot is complaing it can't read the /boot/grub/stage1 correctly |
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| 05:31.02 | jscoder | hmm.. well thats b.s. the first google hit about the inode size.. said grub doesn't work on 256, the thumbdrive I'm running on now also has 256 and it has a working grub |
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| 05:34.30 | jscoder | tries outside the chroot with the --root-directory param |
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| 05:35.57 | jscoder | hmm, good thing I'm not holding my breath on that command.. i'd be dead |
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| 05:36.14 | jscoder | I think it may have worked though. |
| 05:36.41 | jscoder | I shall reboot and see I suppose |
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| 05:38.34 | introom | ,v click |
| 05:38.35 | judd | No package named 'click' was found in amd64. |
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| 05:42.31 | jscoder | well, it did install grub, but it only boots to the shell. so.. partial fail |
| 05:42.52 | jscoder | no grub menu |
| 05:43.25 | jscoder | mounts the partitions back up |
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| 05:44.52 | Rusty1_ | jscoder: got a live dvd / usb on hand? |
| 05:46.07 | Rusty1_ | jscoder: with apologies to no one : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing |
| 05:46.22 | jscoder | Rusty1_: its not "live" but my debian is installed to a thumbdrive |
| 05:46.29 | jscoder | I'm running on it now |
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| 05:47.32 | jscoder | I'm trying to set it up the same way I have it on this thumbdrive on a hdd, but instead of using the CD like I did to install this, I did it with debootstrap and chroot |
| 05:47.41 | Rusty1_ | jscoder: see if that link (scroll down) might help, never tried fron a chroot myself so can't help that way |
| 05:48.42 | introom | does debian have package for 'click modular router' ? https://github.com/kohler/click |
| 05:50.10 | jscoder | introom: doesn't appear so |
| 05:52.17 | jscoder | introom: its got complicated lisc issues which make it unlikely anyone would take it on |
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| 06:07.06 | jscoder | well, at least I figured out how to test the grub without rebooting.. apparently virtualbox can access a raw disk using a rubeish method |
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| 06:07.55 | jscoder | if at third you don't succeed, give up.. thats what I say |
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| 06:08.52 | jscoder | goes along with "if at first you don't succeed, try, try, again.." notice that saying only says try, try.. inidicating 3 times |
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| 06:22.35 | linuxpc | can we rely on the page hit ranking in distrowatch.com. And also, there is custom filter option to choose distros based on certain specific needs like linux for beginners, for old computers etc. Does it provide a reliable information to decide on a particular distro? |
| 06:23.40 | somiaj | linuxpc: you should probably be asking questions about linux distros in ##linux, we suggest Debian here. As for choice, I'd make it on your use case and not stats, only way to know is to try one out or pick one and just take the time to get use to it |
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| 06:25.19 | linuxpc | ok. But, that will take a lot of time in downloading the images, burning them on pendrives and trying, if not most of them, at least some of them. |
| 06:25.50 | linuxpc | I am just a beginner and in need of a complete Linux OS. |
| 06:25.51 | somiaj | linuxpc: ##linux is a good place to discuss various linux distros |
| 06:25.58 | vvande | you only need to download one :) |
| 06:26.21 | linuxpc | ok |
| 06:26.58 | somiaj | linuxpc: pick one and stick with it. But if you want support from this channel, use debian and none of its derivatives. Pick one, stick with it for a few months and take the time to learn it |
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| 06:27.13 | vvande | linuxpc: Mint is very popular now and does a lot of stuff out of the box. Good place to start. IMO |
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| 06:27.33 | introom | jscoder: lisc issue ? |
| 06:27.48 | linuxpc | can you suggest some websites like distrowatch.com where I can get some info on various linux distros? |
| 06:28.01 | aging | just get Debian |
| 06:28.01 | jscoder | introom: its got a lot of moving parts all under different liscenses, some of which will not clash well with DFSG |
| 06:28.03 | vvande | distrowatch is fine |
| 06:28.11 | aging | =p |
| 06:28.26 | vvande | and aging is right - just get Debian :) |
| 06:28.43 | aging | it has everything you need to start and learn with |
| 06:28.45 | MARPATdroid | My advice and how I learned, go to the root of all the popular derivitives and use Debian |
| 06:28.49 | aging | then add whatever you want |
| 06:28.54 | linuxpc | Debian suitable for a beginner? |
| 06:28.57 | aging | yes |
| 06:28.59 | vvande | yes |
| 06:29.07 | MARPATdroid | yes |
| 06:29.11 | aging | =) |
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| 06:29.26 | aging | i just installed Debian a week ago |
| 06:29.35 | aging | i learned more with it than any other distro |
| 06:29.47 | aging | tried slackware, ubuntu, gentoo, red hat, and then some |
| 06:29.48 | jscoder | linuxpc: I didn't start with debian, but its where I ended up.. cause the first few I tried sucked.. this was over 10 years ago. What sold me was reading the social contract and why debian documents |
| 06:30.07 | MARPATdroid | then once you have Debian down, build Arch. You learn a lot about how the inner workings of the Linux kernel and such. |
| 06:30.19 | jscoder | linuxpc: it's a binary distro with a large and good support community, for those reasons its certainly good for a beginner |
| 06:30.20 | linuxpc | I am using a debian testing based distro called Sparky Linux now. |
| 06:30.28 | somiaj | anyways, this conversation is off topic for #debian |
| 06:30.47 | aging | directing towards Debian tho |
| 06:30.48 | somiaj | linuxpc: do you have an actual Debian support question? |
| 06:30.54 | aging | hah |
| 06:31.01 | aging | =O |
| 06:31.29 | linuxpc | will create a debian live usb and try it today. |
| 06:31.46 | aging | yes, linuxpc, LXDE is a great window environment |
| 06:32.08 | linuxpc | aging, ok. |
| 06:32.26 | jscoder | linuxpc: https://www.debian.org/social_contract https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian if those appeal to you, then debian might be for you. |
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| 06:33.08 | aging | ^ great read |
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| 06:33.33 | jscoder | the downside to debian's stability and support is that its not as bleeding edge, security patches are done, but shiny new upstream code could take a much longer to be available. |
| 06:34.00 | jscoder | I personally prefer the larger more knowledgable community and the stable software |
| 06:34.03 | aging | https://debian-handbook.info/ |
| 06:34.12 | aging | my debian setup is shiny as heck! |
| 06:34.41 | somiaj | linuxpc: if you want to learn a distro, just trying live images doesn't really give you a taste for it. You have been asking this same question for a while now. Pick one, install it and stick with it for a month or so and take time to learn how the distro works. If you want help with learning Debian this is a good channel, but this is not a chanel if you choose any debian derivative or other distro. |
| 06:34.53 | aging | ^ |
| 06:35.05 | aging | x2^ |
| 06:35.28 | aging | ...and back to my show... |
| 06:36.02 | linuxpc | somiaj, ok. |
| 06:37.37 | linuxpc | buying a new laptop this week. Will install Debian on it and try it. |
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| 06:38.57 | somiaj | linuxpc: it will take some effort and time to learn how the os works and to configure it to fit your use case. Debian has good support, but sometimes not always the nicest defaults. |
| 06:39.15 | linuxpc | ok |
| 06:39.42 | somiaj | linuxpc: also be careful with new hardware and debian, some other distros support bleeding edge hardware better. |
| 06:40.39 | linuxpc | I will be buying a laptop with latest hardware on it. |
| 06:41.07 | jscoder | laptops are a pain in general |
| 06:41.30 | MARPATdroid | laptops are why I keep a thumbdrive of the non-free firmwares for Debian |
| 06:41.56 | jscoder | yeah even with the firmware, this T42p has issues.. the ipw2100 is shotty |
| 06:43.30 | MARPATdroid | yeah I had problems with one of my USB->serial connectors... ultimately saved time and effort and bought ones I knew worked oob |
| 06:43.37 | jscoder | when it comes to laptops acer or toshiba are probably the worst brands and thinkpad and macbook are probably the best ones for all around solid hardware, but you never know what you're gonna get in a damn laptop |
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| 06:43.51 | MARPATdroid | ^ |
| 06:44.29 | jscoder | they should have a trial period for laptops.. like vaccumes |
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| 08:27.20 | raziel | i broke debian.. :s |
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| 08:28.02 | raziel | i had mounted lib and usr/lib to a jailed folder.. but then a script i ran did the following |
| 08:28.10 | raziel | Copying required shared library files: |
| 08:28.11 | raziel | ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: OK |
| 08:28.28 | raziel | libacl.so.1: cp: error while loading shared libraries: libacl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 08:28.44 | raziel | any idea what i can do if anything.. i do have a rescue mode i could get into.. but not sure what to do :s |
| 08:29.40 | raziel | the script was a copy lib script |
| 08:30.06 | ph33r | Mount the partition with /usr/lib and remove the mount to /usr/lib in /etc/fstab. |
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| 08:30.14 | raziel | i originally did mount --bind /lib /jail/folder/lib |
| 08:30.18 | raziel | umount doesnt work anymore :P |
| 08:30.32 | raziel | umount: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 08:30.48 | ph33r | Open /etc/fstab and comment the line with that mount. |
| 08:30.54 | raziel | so i use the rescue boot right? |
| 08:31.08 | ph33r | That or a live cd. |
| 08:31.10 | raziel | cause there is no way i can open any sort of text editor in the current form :P |
| 08:31.28 | raziel | ill use the rescue mode and see.. thanks:3 |
| 08:31.37 | ph33r | Then it looks like those are your options. |
| 08:33.05 | raziel | doing a cold remote boot.. :"p |
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| 08:36.26 | raziel | what exactly caused it to break out of curiousity. am linux noob. i just know when it tried copying the libraries to the mount it all broke.. and i guess there was no need to copy any of the libraries to begin with:P |
| 08:38.31 | raziel | looking at etc/fstab i dont see anything out of the ordinary im in the rescue mode |
| 08:38.49 | raziel | # <file system><mount point><type><options><dump><pass> |
| 08:38.55 | raziel | /dev/sda1/ext4errors=remount-ro,relatime01 |
| 08:39.09 | raziel | /dev/sda2/homeext4defaults,relatime12 |
| 08:39.19 | raziel | i dont see the lib binding |
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| 08:43.14 | ph33r | Did you mount the filesystem yet? Or are you just looking at the bare bones system of rescue mode itself? |
| 08:43.19 | raziel | oh lol |
| 08:43.26 | raziel | that must be it :P lol |
| 08:43.46 | raziel | let me try to mount the file system brb |
| 08:44.27 | raziel | ah totally right i was in the rescue system -.- learning lol |
| 08:48.03 | raziel | while in /mountsda1/etc# i checked out fstab but it looked normal |
| 08:48.07 | raziel | that's weird |
| 08:48.58 | raziel | originally i used the command: mount --bind /lib /jail/folder/lib |
| 08:49.05 | raziel | and mount --bind /usr/lib /jail/folder/usr/lib |
| 08:49.23 | raziel | there's no way it unmounted when i went into the rescue mode thing :P |
| 08:49.47 | ph33r | Maybe /etc/mtab? |
| 08:49.56 | raziel | ah yes :3 |
| 08:49.58 | raziel | tons of stuff there |
| 08:50.49 | raziel | but not the mounts |
| 08:50.52 | raziel | maybe another file ? |
| 08:51.12 | raziel | i am using debian 8 i think |
| 08:51.23 | raziel | 64bit |
| 08:52.50 | raziel | btw when i navigate to: /jail/folder/lib it's emptyu |
| 08:52.57 | raziel | however lib has stuff in it |
| 08:53.06 | ph33r | How did you set up this mount? If you just set it from the command-line it shouldn't survive a reboot unless in one of those two files or a custom start up script. |
| 08:53.12 | raziel | oh |
| 08:53.15 | raziel | yeah that's all i did |
| 08:53.17 | raziel | via cli |
| 08:53.29 | raziel | i thought that was a permanent way to do it though |
| 08:53.41 | raziel | so u want me to reboot into the server |
| 08:53.43 | raziel | and see if it works :P? |
| 08:54.05 | raziel | my other servers appear to keep these mounts persistent through reboots |
| 08:54.07 | ph33r | It should if you reboot outside of rescue mode. |
| 08:54.10 | raziel | ok |
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| 08:54.40 | raziel | that explains why the /jail/folder/lib is empty right? otherwise i'd see the contents of /lib |
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| 08:55.42 | ph33r | Not sure I've seen a mount set up wrong make the location show empty before too. |
| 08:56.02 | raziel | well i think it all worked before the copy of that file |
| 08:56.12 | raziel | Copying required shared library files: |
| 08:56.13 | raziel | ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: OK |
| 08:56.16 | raziel | is when everything broke :P |
| 08:56.36 | raziel | i wasnt supposed to run that libcopy script though is what i came to as a conclusion :s |
| 08:56.41 | ph33r | See if you can open something in a text editor now. You mentioned even that wouldn't work when this started. |
| 08:56.47 | raziel | yes nothing would |
| 08:56.50 | raziel | i couldnt ls even |
| 08:57.03 | raziel | ls works fine on the mount but im still root@rescue |
| 08:57.09 | raziel | u want me to boot back into debian right :P |
| 08:57.24 | ph33r | Yeah, reboot and give it a shot. |
| 08:57.31 | raziel | ok ^^ thnx :3 |
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| 09:00.05 | raziel | OS |
| 09:00.05 | raziel | Debian 8.4 stable (Jessie) (stable) (64bits) |
| 09:00.10 | raziel | it actually came back up gonna try to login :P |
| 09:01.22 | raziel | ah ok it didnt :s |
| 09:01.59 | raziel | i think there is another location for where it stores mount bind stuff maybe? |
| 09:04.41 | ph33r | Not that I'm aware of. However, it would be possible that the script you ran made another start up script somewhere within /etc/init.d/. You can try looking there and maybe grepping the files for 'mount'. That's thing I can think of off hand. |
| 09:05.23 | raziel | oh ;s |
| 09:06.58 | raziel | yeah my other debian systems have the same mount with bind but its not in either of those files |
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| 09:07.57 | raziel | u want to look at it :P? |
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| 09:15.01 | raziel | it's reinstalling the OS. i didnt have anything important on the machine and hadnt ran anything on it it seems |
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| 09:15.55 | choice | Hello! My debian laptop can't run youtube videos smoothly. What can I do? |
| 09:16.38 | raziel | it would be cool to know how it broke and how to reverse it :P |
| 09:16.49 | raziel | i wont be mounting anything going fwd -.- |
| 09:16.49 | raziel | lol |
| 09:17.03 | SwedeMike | choice: http://www.howtogeek.com/227940/why-youtube-in-chrome-and-firefox-is-draining-your-laptop%E2%80%99s-battery-and-how-to-fix-it/ might give some insight into what options you might have. |
| 09:17.04 | raziel | that seems like a fail safe maybe |
| 09:18.07 | SwedeMike | choice: ie your problem is most likely that you're doing all the video decoding in CPU, so you need to look into if there is something you can do on that front. |
| 09:19.01 | choice | SwedeMike: I need to look into the CPU? |
| 09:19.33 | SwedeMike | choice: no, you need to look into if there is any way you can get video card de-coding of video to work on your hardware. |
| 09:21.26 | choice | SwedeMike: How can I make that? |
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| 09:23.48 | SwedeMike | choice: I presume you didn't even read the article I sent you? |
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| 09:29.59 | choice | SwedeMike: It suggests to install extensions. I don't want to do that. |
| 09:30.05 | choice | I want to figure out what the problem is. |
| 09:31.02 | SwedeMike | choice: so start looking into if this is actually a high cpu problem, then look into hardware acceleration options for youtube browsing. The solution will depend on lots of things. |
| 09:31.34 | SwedeMike | (if high CPU is actually the problem that is) |
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| 09:34.23 | choice | "hardware acceleration options for youtube browsing"? |
| 09:35.08 | picknick | choice: firefox? |
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| 09:35.43 | choice | picknick: Yes |
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| 09:39.02 | picknick | choice: check about:config and see if you have the right options enabled https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/firefox https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox/Tweaks on linux firefox doesn't have as good hardware support than on windows, if all else fails use chromium |
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| 09:40.40 | choice | Hmm... So if FF doesn not support hardware acceleration, I guess there is no way to make it run videos smoothly. |
| 09:41.27 | picknick | choice: it should work, but with choppier video :p |
| 09:41.44 | choice | Yeah, which sucks. |
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| 09:45.19 | SwedeMike | choice: or just use lower resolution. Have you actually checked if your CPU is at 100% while playing video? |
| 09:46.01 | choice | SwedeMike: Lower then 480p is no fun. |
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| 09:51.48 | missmbob | is this flash or html5? |
| 09:52.41 | choice | Damn, I SOLVED IT! Setting this in about:config to false makes video smooth: media.gmp-provider.enabled |
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| 09:55.03 | SwedeMike | choice: I wouldn't call that a solution, I would call that a workaround. But hey, if you only want smooth video and don't care about anything else (like understanding what this might make for your battery endurance), I guess everything is fine. |
| 09:55.24 | choice | I don't have a battery. |
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| 10:48.26 | GNU\colossus | hi |
| 10:48.42 | aging | hello |
| 10:48.48 | GNU\colossus | just installed systemd-230 from jessie backports on a box of mine; now the journal reports this several times during bootup: |
| 10:48.51 | GNU\colossus | "systemd[1]: systemd-udevd.service: Cannot add dependency job, ignoring: Unit systemd-udevd.service is masked." |
| 10:49.08 | GNU\colossus | how can I find out why (and by what/whom) that unit was masked? |
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| 10:52.23 | GNU\colossus | hmm, might that be related to that Debian machine being an LXC container? |
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| 11:08.38 | Pipponzio | hey, I've patched a kernel and now I want to change a line like this <arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org> Is it refered to email or what? |
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| 11:09.31 | tomassosk | Hi people I changed from lxde to mate and I am solving issue of autostart application. I want ot autostart pglgui --tray and it just doesnt work. :) |
| 11:09.46 | tomassosk | I added it usually, there is pgl.desktop in .config/autostart with exec = pglgui --tray |
| 11:10.03 | tomassosk | What I am doing wrong? Please help me. |
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| 11:12.37 | tomassosk | If I run pgl.desktop manually it works. |
| 11:14.59 | n4dir | i don't know mate and i hardly use autostart apps. I would probably try to do it via gui, the way described here: http://xmodulo.com/start-program-automatically-linux-desktop.html |
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| 11:15.29 | n4dir | and i would make sure that mate uses .config/autostart to autostart, and not a different folder (say: .config/mate/autostart or such). |
| 11:15.40 | n4dir | not much, that's all i can offer. good luck |
| 11:16.23 | n4dir | many know mate, but it is a time not many will be in IRC, i guess. Try again later. |
| 11:19.36 | tomassosk | I found other autostarted apps in .config/autostart. Only this one isnt properly working. |
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| 11:20.02 | n4dir | ah, i see. Odd |
| 11:20.47 | n4dir | what about trying the gui way? |
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| 11:21.23 | tomassosk | Maybe it is something specific. Exec without -- tray works. The gui way gave me same results. |
| 11:22.10 | n4dir | i guess your best bet is someone who uses mate (or at least knows it). Like said: good luck |
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| 11:24.59 | tomassosk | Thx anyway. I never thought that I will solve such banality :) |
| 11:26.37 | n4dir | let's fix this quickly and then at it for hours: i love such problems (foam at mouth and all that) :-) |
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| 11:29.23 | missmbob | tomreyn: tried using quotes in exec? |
| 11:29.50 | missmbob | damn |
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| 11:45.54 | lusTiger | Question please! New to Linux. Can't take MS anymore. Have installed and tested multiple distributions last week. Know I know what I want: A ROCK SOLID STABLE OS (like Debian-Stable) but with the latest Programs (like Firefox 50.1) and I accept if individual programs are not THAAAT stable. So: Which distro??? Thanks! |
| 11:47.32 | n4dir | You either have this or you have that. You must make up your mind what you want. |
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| 11:48.34 | lusTiger | that's what i don't get! Look at windows 7! old, but stable! and indivdiual programs may be not stable, which is I'd accept! |
| 11:48.37 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: You want a stable distro that's not stable. Stable means it changes rarely, and is dated, bleeding edge would imply unstable. |
| 11:48.55 | n4dir | windows 7 might be stable, but it is not rock solid stable. |
| 11:49.03 | lusTiger | no i just want the OS to be stable! |
| 11:49.17 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: Nobody's preventing you from installing Firefox 50.1.0 on Debian Stable, though. |
| 11:49.19 | lusTiger | i accept that individual programs may not be stable, but I want the latest |
| 11:49.35 | lusTiger | hexnewbie, how would i do that? synaptic always choses automatically one version for me |
| 11:49.49 | n4dir | at least in debian there is no clear distinction between the OS and the applications, and sure not regarding packagemanagement. |
| 11:49.51 | hexnewbie | I'm using bleeding edge Seamonkey 2.46 on Debian just fine. (And regretting it. Who in their right mind would use Mozilla's latest crap?) |
| 11:50.01 | n4dir | I doubt it is like that in any linux distro, but don't know |
| 11:50.05 | n4dir | so much of them |
| 11:50.33 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: You go to the web site, download it and extract it. It then works. (Haven't done with with Firefox in particular, but other Mozilla ones work like that) |
| 11:50.54 | n4dir | If you are new to linux, first learn how to use linux, and mainly the packagemanagement of the distro you use. This will take at least half a year, probably more |
| 11:50.55 | lusTiger | hexnewbie: Firefox isn't good (anymore)? |
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| 11:51.31 | lusTiger | n4dir ok i really have to go deep into that |
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| 11:51.59 | n4dir | Well: you speak to the wrong guy, me. I don't care about software versions at all :-) |
| 11:52.13 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: I stopped using it years ago when it become too slow to use. Switched to SeaMonkey. Now SeaMonkey merged new Firefox code, and it's triply slow. Debian's firefox-esr is 10-20 times faster than whatever's coming in the newer ones. |
| 11:52.30 | hexnewbie | Er, that was a mistake. 100-200 or possibly thousands of times faster |
| 11:52.34 | n4dir | firefox 3.5 was good , imho :-) |
| 11:52.47 | lusTiger | hexnewbie: thanks! I'v gote firefox-esr!:):) |
| 11:53.06 | lusTiger | but I can't stream Amazon-Videos....... wtf.... |
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| 11:53.40 | n4dir | A good combination between pretty stable, rock solid, and new software, is debian stable with stable backports. But am not sure if that is really the latest version of the programs to be found there. |
| 11:53.41 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: Don't take me literally, the speed difference is only noticable when using X over a network. Locally, on the same computer, the new ones is (supposedly) faster - not that you can know the difference |
| 11:54.44 | lusTiger | hexnewbie: got u |
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| 11:56.06 | lusTiger | but i still don't get: is there no distro offering "old, stable OS" and "latest programs", of course with the disadvantage that individual programs/ functions may not be stable? |
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| 11:56.43 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: But that's an example of what stable distros gives you. Mozilla degraded remote X at least twice in recent years, and has degraded/changed a number of other things - while improving others. A stable distribution comes with some promise things won't changed (unfortunately, not guaranteed for Firefox, as backporting fixes is difficult, and Debian is tracking Firefox ESR instead - but it's still stabler than using newest regular |
| 11:56.43 | hexnewbie | Firefox) |
| 11:57.20 | hexnewbie | s/changed/change unexpectedly and often/ |
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| 11:58.34 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: You can use Debian jessie-backports for individual programs. Firefox is not available there (yet?), which is why I didn't recommend it initially |
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| 11:59.11 | n4dir | well: you could still backport from testing or unstable yourself. |
| 11:59.21 | Vizva | why is the virtualbox version old like this, someone know a source where i can read about? |
| 12:00.04 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: The OS is made of programs, there isn't a clear distinction. Even if there was, maintaining such unusual mix would take a lot of effort and would end up unstable anyway. |
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| 12:00.11 | lusTiger | n4dir: i don't know what backporting is, but I i got u, i first have to learn packet management |
| 12:00.23 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: You can also use a chroot with Debian Testing. |
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| 12:00.57 | n4dir | lusTiger: in short, and half wrong, it means that you compile packages which are already in testing or sid or both to get newer versions |
| 12:01.25 | hexnewbie | Vizva: VirtualBox 5.1.8 is in jessie-backports |
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| 12:01.29 | n4dir | as all the configuration has already been done, this is a rather painless process (as compared to package software which isn't already in debian) |
| 12:01.38 | Vizva | hexnewbie thx |
| 12:02.20 | flow_ | Hello, how do I generate an xorg config file? when I run Xorg -configure it does not run succesfully |
| 12:02.42 | n4dir | most of the time, rather often, you get away with using the stable-backports, which means you have to do nothing, just the usual binary installation of a newer version |
| 12:03.00 | lusTiger | hexnewbie: so then linux is completely different than windows? because in windows there is a clear distinction between OS and programs, and it works, doesn't it? |
| 12:03.39 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: Windows doesn't have all the programs in it coming with the OS. |
| 12:03.48 | Vizva | hexnewbie i have this in my sources but dont find it |
| 12:04.22 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: Neither does Debian prevent you from installing programs that do not come with it (alas, it can be slightly more complicated at times) |
| 12:04.45 | hexnewbie | Vizva: apt-get -t jessie-backports -V install virtualbox-qt |
| 12:04.46 | Vizva | main cintrib non-free |
| 12:04.51 | n4dir | lusTiger: in linux there often is a different layer: upstream software offers the software (duh), the packagers make sure the software suits well to the general approach of that certain distro |
| 12:04.59 | lusTiger | hexnewbie: ok, so i can use firefox 50.1 in my debian 8.6? |
| 12:05.09 | n4dir | which should make sure that it is stable, that it is safe, etc. |
| 12:05.17 | hexnewbie | Vizva: Also if you actually spelled that c*i*ntrib, it won't work, of course :) |
| 12:05.22 | lusTiger | hexnewbie: ok, i just have to find out how (but don't try to explain, have to learn the packet management basics on youtube) |
| 12:05.31 | n4dir | that it gets upgraded regularly . None of that you have in Windows. I guess |
| 12:05.33 | Vizva | hexnewbie it was a typo |
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| 12:05.47 | Vizva | but why i dont find it in synaptic |
| 12:05.58 | hexnewbie | doesn't know what synaptic is |
| 12:06.05 | Vizva | your solution seems to work |
| 12:06.16 | Vizva | its a package manager |
| 12:06.42 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: I'm not sure if Firefox custom downloads provide a .deb. If they don't, it won't involve package management at all |
| 12:08.01 | lusTiger | hexnewbie: you mean "if they DO", right? |
| 12:08.02 | Vizva | hexnewbie your solution work but i need know why i cant find some program in the package manger list |
| 12:08.13 | Vizva | manager |
| 12:08.15 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: It's a .tar.bz2 that you extract, and can then run. |
| 12:08.17 | picknick | isn't the latest firefox in backports like always? https://mozilla.debian.net/ |
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| 12:09.09 | hexnewbie | forgot about mozilla.debian.net |
| 12:09.21 | picknick | is stunned |
| 12:09.40 | hexnewbie | lusTiger: ^^ check out the repo picknick mentioned |
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| 12:10.09 | lusTiger | picknick: thx for the link |
| 12:10.24 | yellow88999 | I thought my trackball was unplugged but it wasn't. |
| 12:10.29 | yellow88999 | It emits non-visible laser. |
| 12:10.36 | yellow88999 | So I was cleaning it while looking directly at the laser. |
| 12:10.42 | yellow88999 | About 30 seconds. |
| 12:10.46 | yellow88999 | I couldn't tell it was on. |
| 12:10.52 | yellow88999 | Now my eyesight is degraded. |
| 12:12.09 | yellow88999 | It says it's optical technology. |
| 12:12.17 | hexnewbie | yellow88999: We all hope for you it's not permanent (hoping they wouldn't sell it otherwise) |
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| 12:13.02 | lusTiger | yello88999: which trackball was it? (Modell?) |
| 12:13.03 | yellow88999 | What kind of optical beam would be invisible to the human eye? |
| 12:13.09 | yellow88999 | Marbleman Trackball |
| 12:13.30 | lusTiger | yellow88999: that's common with many industry lasers! you don't see it! very dangerous! |
| 12:13.58 | hexnewbie | The majority of optical beams are, actually, invisible. |
| 12:14.01 | cybrNaut | wow, sorry to hear that yellow88999 |
| 12:14.32 | cybrNaut | did you buy it in a 3rd world country? I can't believe something like that would get on the shelf |
| 12:15.13 | yellow88999 | "The laser warning did get me scared though. I didn't know it used laser to detect the trackball movement, I had the impression that they used the usual optical LED/CMOS combination." |
| 12:15.31 | yellow88999 | that's from a review to the product on Amazon. |
| 12:16.30 | cybrNaut | don't let it go.. sue the incompetent morons (Marbleman and Amazon both) |
| 12:16.41 | yellow88999 | It's a Logitech Marbleman Trackball. It says: Sensor technology: Optical |
| 12:16.41 | yellow88999 | Sensor Resolution: 300 |
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| 12:17.21 | yellow88999 | I should not have been looking at the sensory component inside the unit with it turned on. |
| 12:17.39 | yellow88999 | I unplugged the wrong plug and didn't realize it until after I went to type on my keyboard. |
| 12:17.45 | yellow88999 | I had unplugged my keyboard, not the trackbvall. |
| 12:17.46 | cybrNaut | actually, they should not have sold you something that puts you in danger like that |
| 12:18.03 | hexnewbie | yellow88999: You opened the case? |
| 12:18.18 | yellow88999 | I pulled out the marble trackball to clean the sensor inside. |
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| 12:18.36 | cybrNaut | that's normal maintenance it sounds like |
| 12:18.54 | yellow88999 | https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.webcollage.net%2Frwvfp%2Fwc%2Fcp%2F19040323%2Fmodule%2Flogitechus%2F_cp%2Fproducts%2F910000806%2Ftab-dcdce06c-aa7b-4b58-91b8-efa00019dc73%2F942b9889-3e2e-402e-8dda-f5148c969373.jpg.w480.jpg&sp=4ebca1fb8fc194f1d7e783c368db4b39 |
| 12:18.56 | cybrNaut | which means they have no expectation that the ball sufficiently protect users eyes |
| 12:19.24 | cybrNaut | oh shit.. i have that one |
| 12:19.40 | cybrNaut | but i never use it |
| 12:19.51 | yellow88999 | cybrNaut, it's common sense not to pull out the ball and clean inside without unplugging the unit. |
| 12:19.57 | yellow88999 | But I unplugged the wrong device. |
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| 12:20.13 | cybrNaut | yellow88999: not really |
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| 12:20.47 | yellow88999 | how do I find out which exact technology is used in this model? |
| 12:20.58 | yellow88999 | Like I say, the LED/laser is totally invisible. |
| 12:21.04 | cybrNaut | some ppl may know that, but it's wrong to assume 100% of consumers know that, and also that 100% of consumers will not pull the wrong plug |
| 12:21.49 | cybrNaut | that's a serious fucking hazard, and you have a /duty/ to sue their asses off, so that no one else is hurt |
| 12:21.55 | lusTiger | Experts say: 1) Symptoms and vision will probably improve over time! 2) The conservative approach would be to treat with oral NSAIDs (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs) such as ibuprofen or indomethcin. 2) Treatment should begin after the injury, ideally within the first day or two. 4) Surgery should be reserved for more complicated cases. |
| 12:22.43 | lusTiger | Full info: http://www.laserpointersafety.com/treatment/treatment.html#Treatment |
| 12:22.55 | yellow88999 | But laser pointers are visible light. |
| 12:23.01 | lusTiger | Basic message: Begin treatment within 2 days! |
| 12:23.06 | yellow88999 | You naturally recoil when you see one in your eye. |
| 12:23.15 | yellow88999 | With non-visible lasers you don't know you're looking at anything hazardous. |
| 12:23.24 | cybrNaut | i know someone who burned their whole retina on a laser, both eyes, and is permanently blind for life |
| 12:23.36 | yellow88999 | cybrNaut, Which laser? |
| 12:24.06 | cybrNaut | yellow88999: fortunately not these consumer lasers.. he was a laser physicist and had an accident in the lab |
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| 12:24.50 | yellow88999 | Can you find out which exact technology is used in this Marbleman Trackball? |
| 12:24.53 | cybrNaut | in his case, the laser was invisible, but the safety measure that shows him where it's pointing broke, so he thought it was pointing somewhere else, and got a direct shot |
| 12:25.08 | yellow88999 | Wow. |
| 12:25.20 | yellow88999 | See, the invisible lasers can be the worst because of that. |
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| 12:25.38 | yellow88999 | It seems to me that invisible lasers should never be used in consumer devices. |
| 12:25.53 | cybrNaut | it wiped out one eye first, and then he naturally turned his head to try to see what was going on, and when he turned his head the other eye got wiped out |
| 12:26.16 | cybrNaut | he was instantly blind |
| 12:26.26 | yellow88999 | so he sees nothing ever since? |
| 12:26.43 | yellow88999 | i still see, but my vision definitely degraded. |
| 12:27.24 | cybrNaut | that's right.. i don't know him personally.. friend of a friend, but I heard he will never recover. Although since I heard that, I've also heard of retina transplants using a retina from a cadaver |
| 12:27.27 | lusTiger | yellow88999: did you read that treatment is possible and shoot start EARLY? |
| 12:27.43 | lusTiger | *...and SHOULD start... |
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| 12:27.53 | cybrNaut | so i don't know why in his case he wouldn't be able to get a transplant |
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| 12:28.17 | yellow88999 | lusTiger, With NSAIDs? |
| 12:28.45 | yellow88999 | âWe´ve turned off the red light on these optical mice and replaced it with an invisible laser that will change the industry,â said David Henry, Logitech senior vice president of the Control Devices Business Unit. âLaser will eventually make the optical mice of today obsolete. With laser technology, mice will see more microscopic detail. The nature of laser light gives mice the ability to track with amazing accuracy on more surfaces wit |
| 12:28.46 | yellow88999 | h more responsiveness than ever before.â |
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| 12:28.53 | lusTiger | yellow88999 that's just ONE of many treatments! |
| 12:29.27 | cybrNaut | i've heard that laser pointer will burn a hole in the retina, but it's not a total disaster because the brain automatically can fill in the missing data |
| 12:30.37 | cybrNaut | i don't see why they cannot have a phony red LED next to the real laser, for safety |
| 12:30.42 | yellow88999 | " It seems that the laser light is invisible to human sight, yet can still capture 5.8 megapixels of surface data per second. " |
| 12:30.46 | yellow88999 | How powerful are these lasers? |
| 12:30.58 | d1z | guys some dude is asking me to do a custom compile of latest Qt + Qt Creator against the libraries of some debian wheezy arm distro. It's for an embedded linux device that's listening on his network. Could I be encountering any conflicts in doing this? I know the standard procedure for compiling source code against existing libs, but I wonder if there's anything else to consider that may cause me delays. I |
| 12:31.00 | d1z | don't know how large the source code is nor how long it will take to compile it but I'm damn sure it will be a lot faster than compiling X in openbsd in a celeron 1.3GHz 256MB RAM which ~10 years ago took ~18 hours iirc |
| 12:31.30 | Vizva | hexnewbie i ask that in forum |
| 12:31.42 | lusTiger | yellow88999: please see a eye doctor tomorrow. at least because you will FEEL better because you tried everything. |
| 12:32.07 | d1z | anyway, is there anything that might stop me from building latest Qt + QtCreator in some embeded debian wheezy arm device? |
| 12:32.10 | cybrNaut | an asshole targetted my eye w/ a laser once, and I notice no damage.. but I wonder if my brain is correcting for damage |
| 12:32.20 | lusTiger | yellow88999: but we have indication that treatment is possible and should start early - therefore definitely see an eye dcotor. |
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| 12:34.20 | cybrNaut | indeed.. see the doctor asap, and then see a lawyer |
| 12:34.33 | cybrNaut | (for everyone's sake) |
| 12:35.17 | cybrNaut | b/c even if you recover, the product still may have done permanent damage that your brain is correcting |
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| 12:42.55 | yellow88999 | After picking it up from the mouse-pad (about 2-3 cm), the beam was shining continuously for about 3 seconds and after that point it started to flash periodically. Then i lift it up some more (about 15 cm and holded it there) and again having the camera facing down at the mouse-pad. The flashing beam was still there on the mouse-pad!! Which means that the mouse does not stops flashing the laser beam. After that i gave it some more lift! (about 30 cm now) |
| 12:42.55 | yellow88999 | and again i could capture the flashing laser beam on the mouse-pad!! |
| 12:43.02 | yellow88999 | https://www.gamedev.net/topic/446736-the-invisible-laser-mouse/ |
| 12:43.11 | yellow88999 | So it's not just my trackball. |
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| 12:46.26 | yellow88999 | But if this is so why doesn't my trackball work when I lift up the ball? It works only when the ball is seated down. |
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| 12:49.53 | laughingtiger | tab key not working with mplayer, only when the file name has a mkv, or avi, if you rename a video file to like abc, tab won't work, pls help. thanks. |
| 12:49.58 | cybrNaut | even if it were just a defect in your device, logitec has some responsbility in quality control |
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| 12:51.01 | cybrNaut | logitec could easily have a robot that removes the trackball, and a CCD could automatically trigger an alarm if a beam appears |
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| 12:55.41 | laughingtiger | so I have to always name a video file with mkv or so at the tail. otherwise tab key won't work with mplayer. |
| 12:56.19 | laughingtiger | anyone with any ideas what causes this? thank you very much |
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| 12:58.13 | laughingtiger | let me do a reboot. thank you guys |
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| 12:58.19 | nkuttler | laughingtiger: bash-completion likely.. |
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| 13:04.27 | n4dir | wondering if using a regex (glob?) would be an acceptable workaround. |
| 13:05.19 | cybrNaut | i've seen that trackball pop out when it falls on the floor. So theoretically a pet could knock the logitec off the desk while it's on, and injure the person who picks it up. |
| 13:05.29 | n4dir | doesn't answer why the tab-completion doesn't work, of course |
| 13:06.32 | cybrNaut | could also blind the pet |
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| 13:12.45 | Vizva | hexnewbie Ok i found it now its a config thing |
| 13:12.45 | Vizva | i change in |
| 13:12.45 | Vizva | synaptic ---- Distribution prefer jessie-backports |
| 13:12.45 | Vizva | Vizva |
| 13:12.45 | Vizva | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:13.15 | Vizva | sorry |
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| 13:19.12 | cybrNaut | might be a good time to short Logitech stock |
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| 13:31.51 | ompaul | newcoder: you will find it has been replaced with firefox-esr which is what the nice people in Debian And Mozilla came to agreement upon |
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| 13:33.48 | julius | hi |
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| 13:34.40 | julius | my resolv.conf file keeps resetting itself, but im not running Network Manager or dhclient and i got this in /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.178.215 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.178.1 |
| 13:34.45 | julius | (with newlines) |
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| 14:18.39 | ikus060 | Hello, May anyone explain to me what is this error message: blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 64910720. I do understand it's an issue with my disk sdc, but is it a communication error or a probme with the disk ? |
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| 14:20.30 | julius | ikus060, the disk is dying |
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| 14:20.42 | julius | probably...get your data off it and get a new one |
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| 14:21.07 | julius | ikus060, could be cable...but i highly recommendate to backup now |
| 14:23.04 | ikus060 | julius: Any easy way to confirm the disk is failing ^ |
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| 14:24.11 | hubot | Hi! |
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| 14:34.37 | ompaul | ikus060: read the message you got, it will tell you that the disk is failing! |
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| 14:36.47 | ikus060 | ompaul: Reading more and more about it, it seams to be a software issue cause by the disk spinning down... |
| 14:36.51 | ikus060 | https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/issues/3785 |
| 14:39.33 | ompaul | ikus060: you know, if you read random links around the internet and search for this string blk_update_request: I/O error, dev |
| 14:39.47 | ompaul | you will find many cases that do not agree with you |
| 14:39.55 | ompaul | YMMV have fun |
| 14:40.06 | ompaul | oh and I wonder how good are your backups? |
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| 14:40.46 | fireant | io error is frequently fs related |
| 14:40.53 | fireant | not hardware |
| 14:41.08 | fireant | specially with new fs like btrfs |
| 14:41.49 | dtonal | hi, i reinstalled my debian completly. before that i naver had problems with sound, but now i cant hear anything :/ i can see a "built-in audio analog stereo" device under sound configuration. but if i play anything in browser or vlc there is no soundoutput. there is no errormessage in vlc or something. user is allready in the audio group. i did installation from the same debian image as before. can somebody |
| 14:41.50 | fireant | ikus060: which type of drive magnetic? |
| 14:41.52 | dtonal | give me an advise what to do to get more informations about my problems? :) thx |
| 14:42.44 | ikus060 | fireant: the disks are HDD, not SDD |
| 14:43.16 | ompaul | mtbf 5 years |
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| 14:54.01 | fireant | ikus060: to test hd do smartctl -a /dev/sdc | less and check if this passed |
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| 14:55.26 | ENNNI8901 | Should my tablet camera pick up non-visible laser light? |
| 14:55.37 | bardkorren | Hi all. I'm on Jessie and when I'm trying to use sudo I get a Segmentation Fault. I have some (very short) logs here. Can anyone who knows about strace see if something an be found that indicates the actual problem? http://pastebin.com/A9r3gAM3 |
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| 14:56.15 | bolt | ENNNI8901: some, yes |
| 14:56.26 | ENNNI8901 | bolt, Why do you say some vs all? |
| 14:56.42 | SynrGy | but off-topic for here. this is the debian support channel. join #debian-offtopic |
| 14:57.05 | ENNNI8901 | ----> now talking in ##debian-offtopic |
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| 14:57.27 | SynrGy | ENNNI8901: i said #debian-offtopic |
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| 14:59.37 | stoned | ENNNI8901: probably ##hardware |
| 14:59.48 | stoned | if you are discussing tablet hardware or any hardware or maybe ##electronics |
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| 15:15.52 | Hanumaan | trying to run cronjobs ... tried in crontab -e and also /etc/crontab but with both of them jobs are not running .. how to check further? |
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| 15:16.40 | dvs | Hanumaan, /var/log/cron? |
| 15:17.12 | Hanumaan | dvs, there is no file /var/log/cron |
| 15:17.32 | dvs | Hanumaan, /var/log/cron.log |
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| 15:17.47 | Hanumaan | dvs, also not there .. |
| 15:17.54 | dvs | ??? |
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| 15:18.03 | dvs | should be |
| 15:19.35 | Hanumaan | dvs, both are not there .https://dpaste.de/od9t |
| 15:19.49 | ENNNI8901 | Anyone got a link to the manual for the Logitech Marbleman Trackball? |
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| 15:22.09 | Hanumaan | dvs, but there is cron info in syslog not sure how far it is useful : https://dpaste.de/WSwF |
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| 15:23.03 | ENNNI8901 | Trackman Marble Mouse |
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| 15:25.31 | Elirips | Is there any recommendation whether to prefer apt or aptitude, or doesnt it matter at all (except for personal reasons)? |
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| 15:26.55 | n4dir | in general rather personal reasons. aptitude can be more helpful in messed up situations (but i think nowadays you could usually use apt-get and make use of aptitude in such situations). Elirips |
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| 15:26.59 | Elirips | and can it result in problems if both are used? or do they share the database with information what was intalled from where? |
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| 15:27.31 | ytrezq | Hello, how to convert a RUNPATH section section into an RPATH one in the case of an already compiled elf binary� |
| 15:28.48 | n4dir | Elirips: back in the days it was recommend to not mix them, never ever, if i recall correct. But that changed a couple of years ago. As far i know, don't rely on me |
| 15:29.19 | Elirips | n4dir: thanks for the info. Yes, I remembered that too, now I noticed that for example they seem to share settings like /etc/apt/preferences |
| 15:30.17 | n4dir | Elirips: regarding such questions sometimes some people say this, some say that. I for one wouldn't worry much if i would use aptitude now and then. In general i stick to one tool though. |
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| 15:30.43 | n4dir | iow: i only gave you *my opinion. Compare that with other opinions you will get, and make your choice |
| 15:31.11 | SynrGy | !apt myths |
| 15:31.11 | dpkg | Myths about APT never seem to die, the principal one being you can't mix using different APT front-ends like apt-get and aptitude. This is false. If you need further convincing, see http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9 and http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/blog/entry/apt-system-diagram/ . See also <why aptitude> and <why not aptitude> for real reasons to choose one over the other. |
| 15:31.41 | n4dir | well: i guess the bot is a reliable source, more or less. |
| 15:32.38 | Elirips | hail to the bot :) thanks for the links |
| 15:33.09 | Elirips | but http://algebraicthunk.net seems to be down (?) |
| 15:33.26 | SynrGy | "a couple of years ago" is inaccurate. this article is 5 years old, and even then it had been a while since that was true |
| 15:33.41 | SynrGy | the first one |
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| 15:34.22 | n4dir | when i started using debian, round the lines of 2007, it was already told me it wasn't an issue anymore |
| 15:34.57 | Elirips | i first used debian woody, I think then only apt-get existed |
| 15:35.06 | Elirips | then aptitude was the "better apt-get" |
| 15:35.17 | Elirips | now in testing aptitude isnt installed by default :) |
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| 15:43.23 | SynrGy | Elirips: i prefer apt for daily use. but i find certain aptitude features very useful. therefore, i use aptitude whenever needed for those things. |
| 15:44.09 | SynrGy | then again, i'm a testing/unstable user. that probably slants me for the less-frustrating user experience managing upgrades in that environment with apt instead of aptitude. ymmv |
| 15:44.33 | SynrGy | if i were purely a stable user, i might choose differently. |
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| 15:48.20 | stoned | stable, apt here |
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| 16:05.10 | likcoras_ | Hi, the 'passmenu' script included in the 'pass' package has a line like this: `xdotool - <<<"type --clearmodifiers -- $(pass show "$password" | head -n 1)"`. Problem is, the password returned by `pass show "$password"` sometimes starts with a '$', and bash seems to expand it to an empty string. How can I avoid this? |
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| 16:08.47 | likcoras_ | Is there any specific reason that it is doing <<<? would changing the above line to `xdotool type --clearmodifiers -- $(pass show "$password" | head -n 1` break anything? |
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| 16:13.01 | likcoras_ | Oh, spaces inside the password would break. eh. How would I do it so that the above line doesn't break on specific inputs? |
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| 16:13.46 | WindowsXPForever | I'm using debian 6 (squeeze) but I don't have the command dist-upgrade |
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| 16:15.21 | likcoras_ | apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 16:15.23 | vectr0n | WindowsXPForever, try: apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 16:16.35 | WindowsXPForever | ok ... I wonder if my system is too old to install new packages |
| 16:17.14 | WindowsXPForever | E: Unable to locate package dist-upgrade |
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| 16:18.13 | hexnewbie | WindowsXPForever: Third attempt: apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 16:19.04 | hexnewbie | You should probably go through wheezy before going to jessie, if that's what you're doing. |
| 16:19.10 | WindowsXPForever | thanks I typed install after apt-get which was wrong |
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| 16:19.34 | WindowsXPForever | It wasn't able to fetch the archives |
| 16:19.55 | hexnewbie | You should run âapt-get updateâ first |
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| 16:22.26 | WindowsXPForever | Err http://mirrors.kernel.org squeeze/main Sources |
| 16:22.26 | WindowsXPForever | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.34 | WindowsXPForever | I assume such an old system is no longer supported? |
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| 16:22.46 | WindowsXPForever | that's what happened when I ran apt-get update |
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| 16:23.01 | haze_ | I have forgotten my password for freenode how can i retrive it ? anyone know? |
| 16:23.16 | vectr0n | haze_, /msg nickserv help sendpass |
| 16:23.29 | vectr0n | try #freenode next time for freenode issues |
| 16:24.46 | WindowsXPForever | haze_, #freenode is the channel for help. You can probably get nickserv to send a recovery email. |
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| 16:25.07 | haze_ | thank you both, I'll try to recover the pass |
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| 16:29.47 | diamvw | Hello, i have some problem with 4.9.0-2 Kernel as it hangs randomly. Did anyone encounter some issues? |
| 16:30.12 | haze_ | hmm I try to sendpass with nick Haze_ then it gives me this message "this operation cannot be performed on phaazon, because someone is logged in to it." |
| 16:30.14 | diamvw | I am using XFCE desktop and suddenly everything hangs |
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| 16:31.25 | dtonal | I'm sorry that I have to repeat myself, but i got disconnected... so maybe i didnt see your answers. If you allready read my question, just ignore it :) : hi, i reinstalled my debian completly. before that i naver had problems with sound, but now i cant hear anything :/ i can see a "built-in audio analog stereo" device under sound configuration. but if i play anything in browser or vlc there is no |
| 16:31.27 | dtonal | soundoutput. there is no errormessage in vlc or something. user is allready in the audio group. i did installation from the same debian image as before. can somebody give me an advise what to do to get more informations about my problems? :) thx |
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| 16:32.52 | SynrGy | diamvw: that's not a debian kernel, so we don't support that (unless you typoed and meant 4.8.0-2? but in that case, i think you should be asking on #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net, as i assume you're running stretch) |
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| 16:34.54 | diamvw | SynrGy: i did't know that. Thank you |
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| 16:39.18 | msgctl | Anyone else just started having trouble with enigmail on debian testing? gpg2 working fine. |
| 16:39.24 | WindowsXPForever | I found this squeeze upgrade information. IS it good or is it ripped off of an official source? https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-debian-squeeze-to-wheezy |
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| 16:43.44 | prussian | I mean, ya pretty much. |
| 16:44.02 | prussian | just be prepared for dist-upgrades to break everything |
| 16:44.22 | prussian | it probably WONT but it might |
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| 16:48.12 | SynrGy | WindowsXPForever: the authoritative place to look for upgrade instructions is the release notes for the release you want to upgrade to. keep in mind that ancient releases get archived, so some adjustment of your apt sources.list is needed to point at the archive site |
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| 16:49.22 | SynrGy | !tell WindowsXPForever about squeeze release notes |
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| 16:49.51 | SynrGy | oops, wrong release |
| 16:49.59 | SynrGy | !tell WindowsXPForever about wheezy release notes |
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| 17:02.40 | newcoder | When I configure irssi, i see: Building with DANE support ....... : no |
| 17:02.43 | newcoder | How can I get Dane support, what is that dane? |
| 17:02.46 | littlebit | hi guys, I have debian running with 3 websites at home and I have a fritzbox as a dsl router that does some kind of dns name resolution but does not do any aliasing, so I'm thinking of setting dnsmasq. Does anyone have any experince with setting up dnsmasq along with a fritzbox router? |
| 17:02.47 | newcoder | Also this: Building with true color support.. : no |
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| 17:27.27 | T4ng10r | hi |
| 17:28.21 | T4ng10r | my GTX770 starts acting strange - in text mode it replaced some of letters with white rectangles, in GUI everything is pixalatad with huge pixel |
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| 17:28.51 | T4ng10r | I hope it's not HW issue, but rather some SW update/drivers/kernel |
| 17:29.01 | thadtheman | So I have a package called foo. I can do apt-get source foo to get the source code. I do not want to do that. What I want to do is get the name of the "source package" that foo is built from.\ |
| 17:29.09 | SynrGy | T4ng10r: which debian release? |
| 17:29.14 | T4ng10r | testing |
| 17:29.23 | T4ng10r | problem reported two weeks ago |
| 17:29.42 | T4ng10r | when I removed card and used buil-in - all works |
| 17:29.48 | DK-HaZe | where does unix put installed programs folders ? I need to find hexchat and its colour config file |
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| 17:30.38 | SynrGy | T4ng10r: you might ask on #debian-next @irc.oftc.net where we do testing/unstable support |
| 17:31.19 | T4ng10r_ | ok |
| 17:31.20 | T4ng10r_ | thx |
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| 17:32.12 | SynrGy | DK-HaZe: various places. consult the doc for each package, usually. also dpkg -L packagename |
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| 17:32.25 | thadtheman | For example. The source for the dolphin package is kde-basepps |
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| 17:32.29 | SynrGy | DK-HaZe: however, sometimes config files don't actually ship with the package and that command won't show those |
| 17:32.33 | missmbob | DK-HaZe: ~/.config/hexchat/hexchat.conf ask #hexchat for more |
| 17:32.41 | SynrGy | (i.e. are script or manually generated) |
| 17:33.36 | DK-HaZe | SynrGy thats why I have a hard time understanding where the different things are, I'm still running windows mode in my head.. So I find it a bit complicated |
| 17:33.46 | DK-HaZe | missmbob thank you |
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| 17:36.22 | jvelasquez | hi. I tried to install the ubuntu version of ibm-securegateway-client onto my Jessie. And now, I can't seem to remove it because removing it requires reinstallation, which I can't do because I don't have "sudo", which I can't install because ibm-securegateway-client needs to be reinstalled. |
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| 17:37.22 | jvelasquez | nevermind. I got it. apt-get download && dpkg -i |
| 17:37.26 | WindowsXPForever | Did the format for sources.list change? I have deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 17:37.41 | WindowsXPForever | but in the release notes for wheezy it has forward slashes instead of spaces |
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| 17:38.54 | missmbob | WindowsXPForever: still not done trolling? |
| 17:39.51 | WindowsXPForever | missmbob, my nickname has nothing to do with this channel just ignore it, just like you should ignore the color of my skin. |
| 17:40.52 | WindowsXPForever | Unless you're racist or you like attacking the person rather than the message |
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| 17:41.46 | WindowsXPForever | nevermind my question I see the format following an apt line has spaces at the end |
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| 17:45.40 | WindowsXPForever | What is confusing me is these two lines from sources.list on squeeze: |
| 17:45.41 | WindowsXPForever | deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main |
| 17:45.41 | WindowsXPForever | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main |
| 17:45.42 | ska | For a dedicated Debian install, do I need a special boot loader to boot a MacPro 3,1 system? I see references to rEFIt and rEFIng. |
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| 17:55.47 | ska | I've had some issues before with ReFit and wonder if there is an easier or more streamline way. I don't have osx anywhere. |
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| 18:23.46 | bardkorren | Hi all. I'm on Jessie and when I'm trying to use sudo I get a Segmentation Fault. I have some (very short) logs here. Can anyone who knows about strace see if something an be found that indicates the actual problem? http://pastebin.com/A9r3gAM3 |
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| 18:27.56 | grawity | bardkorren: that's not usually something you can find out using strace |
| 18:28.20 | grawity | which is merely a syscall tracer, while segfaults usually need gdb or something to actually look into userspace |
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| 18:29.35 | Vizva | bardkorren why need to write test before? |
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| 18:32.02 | Vizva | i dont see where your command start |
| 18:32.39 | DK-HaZe | DK-HaZe |
| 18:34.16 | Vizva | Segmentation fault sudo <----------------- write this on a search and you have enough to read |
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| 18:35.56 | Vizva | http://askubuntu.com/questions/773878/sudo-and-su-give-segmentation-faults |
| 18:36.03 | Vizva | here this is interesting |
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| 18:39.56 | DK-HaZe | can someone plz try an write my name thanks, checking theme on irc |
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| 18:40.17 | teraflops | !echo DK-HaZe |
| 18:40.18 | dpkg | DK-HaZe |
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| 18:41.46 | teraflops | ska: you only need UEFI-capable bootloader |
| 18:41.52 | teraflops | grub is fine |
| 18:43.14 | DK-HaZe | thanks |
| 18:44.11 | DK-HaZe | can you try again, think I got something mixed up here :S |
| 18:44.36 | teraflops | ska: that said it looks saner (if you're doing dual booting) to keep using the osx bootloader an bless the debian one from osx, then you press option key for choosing the OS to boot |
| 18:44.43 | Vizva | DK-HaZe |
| 18:44.56 | teraflops | nope you can !echo your nick too |
| 18:44.57 | DK-HaZe | thanks you very much, now it works :) |
| 18:45.44 | Vizva | !echo give it to me |
| 18:45.44 | dpkg | give it to me |
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| 18:46.48 | DK-HaZe | teraflops if i !echo my nick it wont show the coloring of the chan, but it seems to be all okay now. |
| 18:46.59 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: oh my bad then |
| 18:47.15 | teraflops | sorry for the next |
| 18:47.21 | teraflops | !echo teraflops |
| 18:47.21 | dpkg | teraflops |
| 18:47.37 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: nope you're wrong |
| 18:47.38 | teraflops | :P |
| 18:47.43 | DK-HaZe | hmm |
| 18:47.54 | DK-HaZe | okay |
| 18:47.55 | Vizva | !echo Vizva |
| 18:47.56 | dpkg | Vizva |
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| 18:48.01 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: https://pb.gehidore.net/DIt1.png |
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| 18:48.49 | DK-HaZe | your chan list shows another color to ? |
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| 18:50.16 | DK-HaZe | !echo DK-HaZe |
| 18:50.16 | dpkg | DK-HaZe |
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| 18:50.50 | DK-HaZe | well it seem to be okay now, before the colors was really not good, blinded my eyes :) |
| 18:51.57 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: sorry i did not understand your question, it's my fault surely |
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| 18:52.23 | Vizva | he is usung hexchat maybe |
| 18:52.27 | Vizva | using |
| 18:52.42 | Vizva | so he can change colors of nicks |
| 18:52.56 | DK-HaZe | yep |
| 18:53.19 | Vizva | he or her :P |
| 18:53.46 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: ah that, I have no idea of hexchat |
| 18:53.51 | gshrikant | Hi! Where can I write user-specific PolicyKit files? Does Debian's polkit accept the new Javascript rules or .pkla files as in older polkit versions? Sorry I am a little confused about the whole business. |
| 18:54.26 | DK-HaZe | well its the same as mIRC when we talk colors, just needed to change it so it is easier to see different actions like pm and such |
| 18:54.56 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: sure but I dont know about mirc either xD |
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| 18:55.34 | DK-HaZe | why are you using then ? |
| 18:55.37 | DK-HaZe | what |
| 18:55.47 | DK-HaZe | shell |
| 18:55.51 | teraflops | weechat |
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| 18:56.11 | DK-HaZe | never heard about that.. |
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| 18:56.30 | random_numbers | Hello. Is "/etc/environment" the file to edit to have system-wide variables added? I'm looking to fix the non-antialised java fonts on debian. |
| 18:57.12 | DK-HaZe | teraflops looks like it has a good color scheme from start |
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| 18:57.49 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: hmm, well it's about liking, but I guess so |
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| 18:58.34 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: but if youre talking about the image I sent that's not the default color scheme |
| 18:59.06 | theteju | hey guys,, I need help, to recover my xfs filesystem ,, What a start of 2017 !! |
| 18:59.10 | DK-HaZe | I googled it and all the screens shows its black background and better color setup. |
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| 18:59.49 | theteju | what kind of live imange should I get that would have xfs utilities? |
| 19:00.04 | theteju | like xfs_check and xfs_repair etc |
| 19:00.24 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: ah, right |
| 19:00.36 | DK-HaZe | I don't like white backgrounds and text that float together.. now I've changed mine to black background and better color setup for various msg and info's. Easier to differentiate between it all |
| 19:01.09 | DK-HaZe | yesterday I got a bad headache because of all the bright lights :) |
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| 19:03.29 | DK-HaZe | but maybe I should take a look at weechat some day, is it more lightweight ? |
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| 19:03.58 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: idk, I never used hexchat |
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| 19:05.28 | DK-HaZe | okay |
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| 19:05.37 | DK-HaZe | I'll hang on to what I know then :) |
| 19:08.00 | DK-HaZe | but IRSSI looks interesting for me, terminal only thank you |
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| 19:10.59 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: np, irssi, weechat, bitchx are CLI |
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| 19:12.37 | DK-HaZe | teraflops I don't know why I'm so horny to use terminal for everything but it really speaks to me :) |
| 19:13.11 | DK-HaZe | the only thing is that I'm really bad at it :) |
| 19:13.16 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: oh, then switch to a tiling WM |
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| 19:15.53 | DK-HaZe | just came |
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| 19:16.15 | DK-HaZe | thanks, need to read more into it, never seen that before |
| 19:16.39 | teraflops | i3 is quite popular these days |
| 19:18.58 | DK-HaZe | okay thank you |
| 19:21.15 | DK-HaZe | is it possible to open up things out side ot the tilling wm |
| 19:21.26 | DK-HaZe | through the tiling wm |
| 19:23.04 | DK-HaZe | well I have to try it out no matter what so I'll find out.. |
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| 19:23.34 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: If I get what you meant, yes you can |
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| 19:24.46 | Pavr | i3 has some nice tutorial videos guiding the basics |
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| 19:26.21 | teraflops | I said i3 because it's popular, and you can have it running in 5 minutes |
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| 19:27.00 | DK-HaZe | yes I see there should be some improvements compare to other tiling wm's in i3 |
| 19:27.08 | DK-HaZe | just need to build a system to try it out.. |
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| 19:29.33 | DK-HaZe | I'll try installing a laptop tomorrow with some lightweight dist, and then go to work with i3. looks interesting, thank you |
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| 19:30.01 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: debian is lightweight enough |
| 19:30.03 | teraflops | xD |
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| 19:33.21 | teraflops | DK-HaZe: np, good luck |
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| 19:36.26 | saturn__ | I'm trying to mount a hard drive to my pc but when I do it can only be accessed by root and I'm not able to change permissions, even when I use rw options when mounting. dones anyone knows how to set the read/write permissions for all users of a mounted drive? |
| 19:36.46 | abrotman | saturn__: what are the perms on the monut point? |
| 19:37.20 | saturn__ | I try to mount at /mnt that's root |
| 19:37.38 | petemc | what filesystem? |
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| 19:39.10 | abrotman | saturn__: what is the filesystem on the partition, and what is ls -ld /mnt/ |
| 19:40.12 | saturn__ | the partition is ntfs |
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| 19:40.52 | saturn__ | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root |
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| 19:42.23 | petemc | !ntfsrw |
| 19:42.23 | dpkg | NTFS-3G is a userspace driver providing NTFS read and write support. "aptitude install ntfs-3g". Usage examples: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/#usage . Also ask me about <user accessible ntfs>. |
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| 19:44.01 | DK-HaZe | teraflops thank you, I need it :D |
| 19:44.06 | teraflops | xD |
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| 19:47.01 | DK-HaZe | btw I probably use some debian dist, If I understand it right there should be good support in Danish for Debian |
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| 19:52.36 | jim | if by "support for danish" you mean things like translated man pages, char sets, locales, yeah, debian should have that... if you mean support for asking questions about debian, I think there are channels and mailing lists for that |
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| 19:53.30 | jim | !danish |
| 19:53.30 | dpkg | danish is, like, better than swedish. To get danish support in KDE do: apt-get install kde-i18n-da, a damn fine pastry, #debian-dk, #linux.dk, and of course it's better than dutch |
| 19:54.01 | jim | allllllrighteythennnn,,, |
| 19:54.16 | Vizva | better than swedish? |
| 19:54.41 | jim | !factinfo danish |
| 19:54.41 | dpkg | danish -- last modified at Wed Aug 11 16:17:05 2004 by sgeigerbot!~user@h116.144.55.139.ip.alltel.net; it has been requested 27 times, last by jim, 1m 11s ago. |
| 19:55.01 | Vizva | !german |
| 19:55.02 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 19:55.08 | DK-HaZe | hehe nearly the same Danish and Swedish, but I know everthing should be translated and docs for most in Danish. |
| 19:55.24 | Vizva | souds like racist ;) |
| 19:55.27 | Vizva | sounds |
| 19:55.39 | DK-HaZe | Swedish people are just drunk danish nothing else :) |
| 19:55.46 | Vizva | hehe |
| 19:57.37 | DK-HaZe | but compare to the support for other dist I think it is easier for me to understand, and easier to get support from someone in person as it is widely used. I have had slitaz an slax recommended to me also but I cant remember what they are build on |
| 19:57.39 | DK-HaZe | off |
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| 19:58.59 | DK-HaZe | I'm just thinking if I stick to debian some day I may understand it fully instead of jumping between dists |
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| 20:12.23 | ricardofantin_ | Hello, I need help to probably report a bug. I installed the last Debian 8 in a virtual machine. I didn't install any desktop enviroment in the instalation and after that I installed the awesome package. Awesome is a window manager, but I cann't initialize it even if I installed awesome-extra package. To initialize it, I installed one console (xterm) and one login manager (xdm). The package awesome shouldn't have as |
| 20:12.23 | ricardofantin_ | dependency one console application and one login manager? |
| 20:13.12 | abrotman | no, for a few reasons |
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| 20:14.02 | cargo_pantz | I ran df command on my debian based image and it showed I had no disk space available (14GB gone). Last time I used system, I had 7+GB available. Any idea what the issue might be? |
| 20:15.00 | ricardofantin_ | abrotman: In this case, then there should be a tasksel or something like it? |
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| 20:16.35 | ricardofantin_ | abrotman: what are the reasons? Is there some place I could look to understand it better? |
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| 20:21.48 | abrotman | ricardofantin_: run it remotely? don't want it to start automatically? you don't like xterm? |
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| 20:22.58 | teraflops | ricardofantin_: are you asking why a WM does not install by default a DM or a terminal client? |
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| 20:23.43 | ricardofantin_ | No, I was trying to understant more like to report bugs. I don't know much about systemd. And the last version of Debian |
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| 20:25.09 | ricardofantin_ | I run by default KDE, in VM that window manager run very slowly. I don't like the lxde. It is just my opinion. |
| 20:25.24 | teraflops | ricardofantin_: that's not a bug, and not related to systemd |
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| 20:26.37 | Old_Dog | man nmcli |
| 20:26.46 | valbr | I have a server that had a reinstall a couple of days ago, and gives the following error: http://pastebin.com/raw/Mxbm2dC2 |
| 20:27.21 | valbr | it says ACPI but in the message itself it says something about "PCI0". I have a problem with the PCI card so I am looking at the dmesg if I can find something |
| 20:27.26 | valbr | any ideas on what it could be ? |
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| 20:30.09 | awal1 | ricardofantin_: awesome jessie version have a bug, display managers won't list it; but I dont find the bug in the web right now. try starting it with "startx" after creating a xinitrc file |
| 20:30.16 | Zathras | valbr, it would help if you would be more verbose, like giving the kernel version etc |
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| 20:31.00 | ricardofantin_ | awal1: thank you, I will try it. |
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| 20:32.06 | awal1 | ricardofantin_: in terminal just type: nano ~/.xinitrc and insert this line: exec awesome |
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| 20:33.59 | Zathras | can someone tell me why a dot is being ignored and therefor this results in error? http://paste.debian.net/905935/ |
| 20:34.01 | awal1 | ricardofantin_: save the file (ctrl+o+enter) close (ctrl+x) they switch to a given tty (1-6) and just run startx |
| 20:34.10 | awal1 | then switch ^ |
| 20:34.29 | Zathras | "./private" becomes "/private" which does not exist |
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| 20:35.05 | valbr | Zathras: kernel is 4.4.35-1-pve |
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| 20:36.01 | valbr | Zathras: system is totally update to date of course |
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| 20:37.18 | Zathras | euhm intriguing, my debian boxes are on 3.x kernels |
| 20:37.47 | ricardofantin_ | awal1: I'm using qemu and can't type crtl+alt+F6. Is there another way to change to another tty? |
| 20:38.06 | ricardofantin_ | awal1: I don't have the startx command |
| 20:38.27 | Zathras | stretch says: linux-image-amd64 (4.8+77) |
| 20:38.33 | ricardofantin_ | awal1: awesome returns the error cannot open display |
| 20:39.04 | awal1 | ricardofantin_: are you using virt-mnaager? |
| 20:39.16 | valbr | Zathras: its a proxmox install, I thought it was just debian with a preinstalled promox web UI, but apparently there is more to it |
| 20:39.29 | awal1 | virt-manager |
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| 20:39.55 | valbr | I thought looking in here, coz it could be debian specific and not anything with proxmox web UI itself |
| 20:40.19 | Zathras | ah. You could also try #oftc |
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| 20:40.56 | Zathras | but indeed it does not look like regular debian |
| 20:41.38 | ricardofantin_ | awal1: no I create the qcow image with aqemu and after use the command "qemu-system-x86_64 -hda Debian" |
| 20:41.45 | ricardofantin_ | I'll try the virt-manager |
| 20:41.45 | Zathras | what is the PCI card problem valbr ? |
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| 20:42.31 | valbr | Zathras: its a 4 port NIC card (tried 2 cards intel and HP both the same problem) and proxmox (or debian itself) do not see all the ports or only some of them |
| 20:42.34 | awal1 | ricardofantin_: what's your host? |
| 20:43.13 | valbr | weird thing is that I installed proxmox on that same machine 1 and a half month ago with the same hardware. no problem.. |
| 20:43.24 | valbr | did a reinstall yesterday and boom it starts to do some strange things |
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| 20:43.48 | Zathras | I have a script which seems to drop a bot at some point for some reason. Why/how can I fix this while remain using relative paths? http://paste.debian.net/905935/ |
| 20:44.41 | Zathras | valbr, try a different PCI slot. Also has something changed? (kernel. driver, BIOS settings) ? |
| 20:44.58 | valbr | there is only 1 PCI slot, nope nothing is different |
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| 20:46.25 | Zathras | maybe the card is not inserted correctly? Apply some pressure to make sure all contacts are OK? |
| 20:46.39 | Zathras | also: try lspci/dmidecode |
| 20:46.56 | Zathras | or the knowledgebase of the card manufactorer? |
| 20:47.21 | valbr | Zathras: I am pretty sure it is in correctly, I have plugged it out and plugged it in again several times after a shutdown |
| 20:47.25 | Zathras | unload/reload driver |
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| 20:47.39 | Zathras | just giving some generic hints |
| 20:48.27 | bardkorren | Is there a way to validate my system files? (Mainly binaries, in my case) I'm thinking that I might have some broken system binaries and I'd love to run a checker that validated with checksums, rights, etc. |
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| 20:49.15 | valbr | Zathras: lspci only shows 2 NIC's (which are the ones already on the MB itself) |
| 20:49.21 | valbr | driver reload already done |
| 20:49.22 | jak2000 | how to delete all files on a certain directory: /home/jak/Maildir/cur with find command and exec? |
| 20:49.46 | valbr | what should I look up in the card manufacturer site? |
| 20:49.51 | preaction | jak2000: find should have a -delete flag, no? otherwise, it's -exec rm {} |
| 20:50.48 | jak2000 | preaction: find /home/jak/Maildir/cur/ -type f -exec rm {} ? |
| 20:50.49 | jak2000 | right? |
| 20:51.05 | preaction | jak2000: what happens when you try it? also, remember, you can't undo that |
| 20:51.34 | jak2000 | i need empty this folder (postfix folder) not know other way..... i have here 150 000 small files |
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| 20:52.31 | ricardofantin_ | awal1: I used the aqemu. I installed virt-manager and it appears more easy to use. I'll try it with more time. |
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| 20:56.32 | Sevalecan | so, my system appears to be pulling an invalid ipv6 address (outside of the assigned subnet I see from my router), and an ipv6 address or two that /is/ in the assigned subnet... And the invalid address seems to partially mimic a nameserver I have in my resolv.conf ... and I have no idea where this address is coming from :P |
| 20:56.34 | jak2000 | preaction anya dvice? |
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| 20:56.55 | preaction | jak2000: my advice remains "what happens when you try it?" |
| 20:57.44 | jak2000 | find: missing argument to `-exec' |
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| 20:59.19 | preaction | jak2000: you probably need a \; as well. and/or you need to escape the {}. and/or did you try seeing if there's a -delete flag in your find? |
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| 21:00.15 | jak2000 | man find |
| 21:00.18 | jak2000 | seeing |
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| 21:00.52 | teraflops | ricardofantin_: if you are using qemu how do you connect to the guest? |
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| 21:05.39 | m4221 | is anyone familiar with debian on powerpc...#debianppc is very quiet |
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| 21:08.44 | teraflops | ricardofantin_: I ask it because if you use spice (spice-gtk) you can easily send ctrl+alt+ combos to the guest |
| 21:09.06 | teraflops | no need of virt manager |
| 21:09.28 | ricardofantin_ | sorry, I was making other things |
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| 21:11.09 | ricardofantin_ | I missunderstud the question or other thing. I'm using Kubuntu 16.04 and I'm experiencing many warnings. To program somethings I'll try something diferent |
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| 21:25.57 | Walex | Sevalecan: IPv6 depends on the address, but IPv6 also has dynamic creation of addresses, a bit like the 169.254.0.0 ones in IPv4. |
| 21:26.30 | Walex | Sevalecan: in any case your logs should tell you how that address came to be assigned to your system. |
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| 21:28.21 | Sevalecan | I think I may have solved the problem by adjusting the RADVD/DHCPv6 configuration on my router, but I'm curious which log files would have this (or if it would have to be enabled somewhere) |
| 21:29.13 | patterson | I have to wonder just how different distros are other than pakage management and directory structure |
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| 21:31.01 | n4dir | init system. |
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| 21:31.46 | n4dir | configuration of smaller stuff (keyboard, time, etc). |
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| 21:33.51 | TomTomTosch | infrastructure, community, online services, policies (free software/security), the company behind, release cycles, etc. pp. |
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| 21:37.20 | Walex | patterson: as the others have said, but mostly it is package management and config file management. |
| 21:37.35 | Sevalecan | patterson: some other distros, like Gentoo, can use a rolling release cycle too (mostly similar to Debian Testing) without a specific release version |
| 21:37.45 | binaryc | preference to OpenLDAP vs FreeIPA, picking between two. Leaning towards FreeIPA. Anyone running frun unstable / concerns ? |
| 21:37.46 | Walex | patterson: the real difference among distro is maintanability, and then package availability. |
| 21:38.27 | Walex | binaryc: FreeIPA is a collections of packages, not just LDAP. |
| 21:40.24 | binaryc | understood, should have phrased, standard LDAP isnstall vs.. |
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| 21:44.14 | Pelle` | i got this share on my debian machine that i have mounted on my win pc, i can create folders and delete folders but files i have downloaded with transmission i have to log on to the debian machine and erase when i want to delete them, i dont need root access to delete them with my local linux acc, got umask 2 set in transmission deamon cfg... how do i make it so that i can delete them from my |
| 21:44.14 | Pelle` | win pc? |
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| 21:47.14 | binaryc | going for fedora. Feels strange, will replace instance with debian when it makes stable |
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| 21:50.47 | n4dir | Pelle`: as no one answers, i guess Filezilla or ssh via putty is not an option? You want a more direct way to delelete, i guess. |
| 21:51.47 | Pelle` | yea, i got the share mounted on my laptops and pcs and connect to my own vpn... i want it to be girlfriend friendly ^^ |
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| 21:51.57 | Pelle` | i dont want here to mess about in the terminal hah |
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| 21:53.46 | n4dir | yeah, i thought so. But i can't help with it, sorry |
| 21:54.05 | n4dir | like in: makes sense. |
| 21:55.17 | Pavr | are you logged in on the share with the same user as you use locally to delete the files? |
| 21:55.25 | Pelle` | yea hmm, i have mounted the share with the linux account, and the linux account is in the group as transmission |
| 21:55.27 | Pelle` | yea |
| 21:56.22 | Pelle` | ls -l for one example directory: -rw-rw-r-- 1 debian-transmission debian-transmission |
| 21:56.43 | Pavr | samba isn't set to read only? |
| 21:57.04 | Pelle` | not that i know of, since i can create and delete folders from windows |
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| 21:57.27 | Pelle` | just that files downloaded with transmission cant be deleted |
| 21:58.07 | Pelle` | everything works as expected but the transmission downloads |
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| 21:58.40 | Pavr | can't remember what i did but im pretty sure i made a sharedmedia user and set the downloadfolder group to the sharedmedia folder and gave it the setgid permission |
| 21:59.05 | Pavr | sharedmedia group* |
| 21:59.30 | Pelle` | mkay |
| 22:01.07 | Pelle` | http://pastebin.com/4UNMUkYL this is the share in smb.conf |
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| 22:03.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | Pelle`, sounds more like filenames that win wont tolerate |
| 22:04.32 | Pelle` | CutMeOwnThroat well its just directorys and like movie files basically |
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| 22:10.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | nothing you said indicates I wasn't right. try to rename a file to a.avi or so under linux and then try to delete it from windows |
| 22:10.09 | jhutchins_wk | Pelle`: Check the samba logs on the server. Check the ownership/permissions of the files. |
| 22:10.48 | jhutchins_wk | Also check what ownership and permissions the samba server is setting. |
| 22:11.00 | jhutchins_wk | Pelle`: Does transmission run on the Linux box? |
| 22:11.10 | Pelle` | yes its on the same box |
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| 22:11.26 | Pelle` | -rw-rw-r-- 1 debian-transmission debian-transmission is the owner of the downloaded files |
| 22:11.33 | jhutchins_wk | Pelle`: So it's creating the files under Linux, as a linux user. |
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| 22:11.42 | Pelle` | yea |
| 22:11.58 | jhutchins_wk | Pelle`: Note that that file is not writable by user Pelle unless Pelle is in the debian-transmission group. |
| 22:12.10 | jhutchins_wk | Pelle`: Not writeable means not deleteable. |
| 22:12.13 | Pelle` | yea i know, but my user is that group |
| 22:12.34 | Pelle` | cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev netdev lpadmin scanner debian-transmission |
| 22:12.39 | jhutchins_wk | Is the directory writable by that user? |
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| 22:12.53 | jhutchins_wk | Ok, so it should be writable. |
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| 22:13.27 | jhutchins_wk | You can increase the logging level in samba, but remember to turn it back down, it's a big performance hit. |
| 22:14.02 | Pavr | are you sure you are logged in to the share on windows with the right user? i know i asked but yeah looking at the logs might be a good idea. |
| 22:14.14 | jhutchins_wk | Pelle`: The Windows user is probably not the same as that user of course. |
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| 22:14.45 | Pavr | the config you shared has the share as public and allows guests |
| 22:14.47 | Pelle` | i just remounted the share on this pc and still the same |
| 22:14.49 | xcel_ | hey why do it get /bin/bash: warning: shell level (1000) too high, resetting to 1 |
| 22:14.56 | xcel_ | when updating etc |
| 22:15.01 | jhutchins_wk | The question is whether the _windows_ user has write access. Might be informative to look at the permissions on the windows box for that file/user. |
| 22:15.09 | xcel_ | /usr/bin/python3: fork: Cannot allocate memory |
| 22:16.07 | jhutchins_wk | xcel_: Not normal. Please let us know what release you're running, the exact command, and how much free ram/swap you have. |
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| 22:16.38 | Plushwolf | Is the freeze of stretch stable enough for a small production server? |
| 22:16.49 | Pelle` | if i right click the share then properties -> security i got everyone root(unix user\root) and root(unix group\root) |
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| 22:18.06 | Pelle` | and if i check a directory downloaded by transmission i got everyone debian-transmission(unix user\debian-transmission) debian-transmission(unix group\debian-transmission) |
| 22:18.13 | xcel_ | its strech jhutchins_wk sudo apt-get update i dont know how see enable swap? |
| 22:18.30 | xcel_ | however i have a shitton python3 running |
| 22:19.39 | somiaj | Plushwolf: stretch won't ever be considered ready for a 'production server' until it is released, since even if it was stable, it has no timely security support. |
| 22:19.41 | Pavr | Pelle`, and what does the log in /var/log/samba say? |
| 22:19.42 | xcel_ | memory is almost full |
| 22:20.13 | Plushwolf | somiaj: Okay, but isn'tis already freezed? |
| 22:20.19 | Plushwolf | *isn't this |
| 22:20.51 | xcel_ | can it be i'd jhutchins_wk tried to add two python files in /usr/bin |
| 22:21.06 | Vizva | Pelle` what kind of network is this? |
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| 22:21.31 | Pelle` | [2017/01/01 00:44:41.460838, 0] ../lib/param/loadparm.c:1659(lpcfg_do_service_parameter) |
| 22:21.31 | Pelle` | Ignoring unknown parameter "share modes" |
| 22:21.31 | Pelle` | [2017/01/01 23:07:32.135983, 0] ../lib/param/loadparm.c:743(lpcfg_map_parameter) |
| 22:21.31 | Pelle` | Unknown parameter encountered: "share modes" |
| 22:21.32 | Pelle` | [2017/01/01 23:07:32.141706, 0] ../lib/param/loadparm.c:1659(lpcfg_do_service_parameter) |
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| 22:21.49 | xcel_ | huh seems to be working now |
| 22:22.41 | Pelle` | Vizva just a home network |
| 22:22.58 | Vizva | ethernet cable? |
| 22:23.05 | Pelle` | yea |
| 22:23.25 | Vizva | i was join late |
| 22:23.33 | xcel_ | seems to be something with python when i do pip search it freezes |
| 22:23.39 | Pelle` | on this pc atleast, on my lappy i connect to my home network via vpn tho |
| 22:24.06 | somiaj | Plushwolf: not really, it is only a transition freeze, soft freeze happens jan 5th, full freeze is feb 5th. |
| 22:24.32 | Pavr | Pelle`, find the log for the machine that is trying to delete files and read/paste that. |
| 22:24.33 | somiaj | Plushwolf: but even if it was a full freeze, security is important for 'production servers' and the suggestion here is until the release it is not ready for production |
| 22:25.19 | xcel_ | still get /bin/bash: warning: shell level (1000) too high, resetting to 1 |
| 22:25.25 | Pelle` | http://pastebin.com/TbQnuU3z |
| 22:25.30 | Plushwolf | Okay, I will use jessie instead. Thank you! |
| 22:25.37 | Pelle` | thats the only things that are in the log for this pc |
| 22:25.49 | Vizva | Pelle` could be a client problem. Sugestion install for example krusader and then open a smb under xtras networkconnection with your details and look you can edit it or not - if you like |
| 22:26.40 | Vizva | you look for an easier way in x |
| 22:26.57 | xcel_ | gah |
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| 22:27.22 | Pelle` | Vizva i got the share mounted on my win pc |
| 22:27.39 | Vizva | yes and? |
| 22:27.53 | Vizva | smb is your protocol or not? |
| 22:28.05 | Pelle` | yea |
| 22:28.17 | Vizva | you want edit in linux from windows? |
| 22:28.27 | Pelle` | mhm ^^ |
| 22:28.31 | Vizva | oh sorry |
| 22:28.37 | Pelle` | :) |
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| 22:29.29 | xcel_ | anyone have any idea? |
| 22:29.35 | Vizva | i think its a windows problem - like it always stuck if you need a constructive work with other OS |
| 22:29.53 | Vizva | but lets think about |
| 22:31.04 | Pavr | Pelle`, try disabling guest access to the share and add a valid users line to the share |
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| 22:32.52 | Pelle` | Pavr mkay |
| 22:32.56 | WindowsXPForever | after running apt-get dist-upgrade and rebooting, apt-get dist-upgrade shows this still like it didn't finish the first time: |
| 22:32.57 | WindowsXPForever | 658 upgraded, 709 newly installed, 80 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
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| 22:33.18 | WindowsXPForever | It want to use 983MB too |
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| 22:34.12 | WindowsXPForever | xcel_, python related? |
| 22:35.08 | xcel_ | WindowsXPForever: yeah i think so? |
| 22:35.10 | xcel_ | http://pastebin.com/DnYTmNUi |
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| 22:36.31 | doublehp | since recent update of my machine, some sensors now return value 0 (they were working fine before update); are there known easy fix ? |
| 22:36.38 | xcel_ | last i di dwas trying to get this to work https://github.com/trizen/obbrowser AND COULD SO I TRIEED TO COPY IT TO /USR/BIN |
| 22:36.45 | xcel_ | oops caps sorry |
| 22:37.30 | xcel_ | i cant reinstall/install w/e either |
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| 22:39.18 | WindowsXPForever | xcel_, does ulimit -a show any unusual restrictions? |
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| 22:39.36 | WindowsXPForever | Why is it running out of memory? |
| 22:40.02 | xcel_ | WindowsXPForever: its fine now but i was whei was upgrading |
| 22:40.48 | xcel_ | like ofr now pip search openbox is eating my memory |
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| 22:42.03 | xcel_ | WindowsXPForever: what should i look for in ulimit |
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| 22:45.39 | xcel_ | WindowsXPForever: here's the error log of pipi if you mnind having a look |
| 22:45.41 | xcel_ | http://pastebin.com/QWHC1y64 |
| 22:45.57 | jhutchins_wk | xcel_: You might find more help in #debian-next on oftc.net. That channel specifically supports Testing. |
| 22:46.13 | xcel_ | oh ok thanks |
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| 22:46.41 | jhutchins_wk | xcel_: Also, you should know how to determine how much ram you have and whether you have swap if you're going to test new software. top will show you, among other things. So will free. |
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| 22:47.23 | jhutchins_wk | The purpose of making testing available is to that people can find what's broken. |
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| 22:48.32 | jscoder | I've installed jessie with debootstrap on a usb hdd, having issues with grub2, the menu doesnt show up, I think its because there is a seperate /boot partition how do I install grub properly? |
| 22:48.58 | madlord | hello guys, happy new year! :) |
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| 22:50.20 | awal1 | After canceling the edition of a file (openbox menu.xml / nano)) I get a notification "You have a new mail. Check /var/mail/username" or something similar, but i checked /var/mail/username and nothing, apart root mails. what happens exactly? |
| 22:50.28 | madlord | after installing the firmwares for the ath10k wireless card, although the wifi is working, there are still error messages at boot, e.g., ath10k_pci 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load ath10k/pre-cal-pci-0000:01:00.0.bin (-2) |
| 22:50.47 | jscoder | I installed grub2 with the command grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdc but its only booting to the grub shell |
| 22:50.51 | madlord | does anyone know how to remove this message from boot? |
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| 22:51.00 | somiaj | awal1: sounds like you have it setup to forward root emails to your main user. What was the last email after that, usually it is an automatic email informing you of something about your machine. |
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| 22:53.41 | awal1 | somiaj: haven't edited nothing, using defaults. I have nothing new in /var/mail/username since 1 hour before (apt changelog) |
| 22:54.06 | awal1 | so wondering why the notification about new mail but I dont see nothing there |
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| 22:55.32 | awal1 | logged as standard user, not doing anything as root |
| 22:56.04 | awal1 | well, it's a sid VM |
| 22:56.56 | somiaj | awal1: note that notification gets triggered when you get new mail in all shells, but isn't displayed until you interact with the shell. So I sometimes have shells that have been inactive spout out old mail warnings just cause I hadn't touched it for a while. |
| 22:56.59 | ragedragon | Hello, does someone please is using the mozilla build of firefox rev 50.1? |
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| 22:57.03 | somiaj | at least that is my experience |
| 22:57.20 | bralto | hi there, backports cinnamon on debian jessie gives me a standard of 25% cpu usage (core i7 920) on xorg+cinnamon on nvidia, anyone an idea how to debug this? |
| 22:57.25 | somiaj | ragedragon: can you ask your real question? Is your question you want to install the newest firefox in debian jessie? |
| 22:57.26 | ragedragon | even without plugins started (safe mode) the cpu consumption is more than 120% |
| 22:57.41 | somiaj | ragedragon: how did you install firefox |
| 22:58.26 | ragedragon | somiaj, i installed it manually from the moz website, since the rev 50.1 the cpu consumption is too high |
| 22:58.37 | ragedragon | i'm using the debian old stable (wheezy) |
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| 22:59.16 | ragedragon | my cpu is a simple atom N330 |
| 22:59.23 | ragedragon | (x86) |
| 23:00.49 | ska | My macpro 3,1 doesn't have any OSX boot capability at this point. Its been running Debian for some time, but I need to re-install on new disks, so I'm unsure how to boot from the USB stick etc.. |
| 23:01.28 | jhutchins_wk | ,v firefox |
| 23:01.29 | judd | Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 50.1.0-1~bpo80+1; stretch: 50.1.0-1; sid: 50.1.0-1; experimental: 51.0~b5-1 |
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| 23:02.41 | somiaj | ragedragon: could be some issue with that, really the newer firefox on wheezy isn't going to be supported by #debian (mostly since wheezy is no longer supported except for server side software with wheezy-lts) |
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| 23:02.54 | jhutchins_wk | ragedragon: You'll have to ask mozilla for support then. |
| 23:03.14 | jhutchins_wk | ragedragon: You might just let it run for a while, it could be initializing/updating. |
| 23:03.15 | somiaj | ragedragon: I don't really have any suggestions on how to debug this. My suggestion is for a desktop, you should be running jessie. |
| 23:03.16 | ragedragon | somiaj, jhutchins_wk, ok understood |
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| 23:03.30 | somiaj | ragedragon: and if running jessie, it is already provided as a package in jessie-backports. |
| 23:03.37 | ragedragon | somiaj, jhutchins_wk, thanks |
| 23:03.46 | jhutchins_wk | ragedragon: Good luck! |
| 23:04.02 | awal1 | somiaj: it's curious. I was editing using via nano and terminator; I havent left my terminal since last root login/logout |
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| 23:04.51 | somiaj | awal1: yes that is what I described. When you get a new mail, an event gets sent to your current shells. But sometimes won't be seen until you say exit nano or interact with the shell. so you'll see your new mail messages in multiple places. |
| 23:06.01 | awal1 | somiaj: ok, now I understand you. thanks for clarifying ;) |
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| 23:06.38 | CQ | hello... I'm getting this error "ERROR: HTTP error - SSL certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate" ... seems to be an outdated certificate bundle on jessie from what I can tell by the google results... what's the solution? certificate bundle from backports? |
| 23:07.43 | CQ | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/ca-certificates ...doesn't seem to be a backports version |
| 23:08.54 | somiaj | ,v ca-certificates |
| 23:08.55 | judd | Package: ca-certificates on amd64 -- wheezy: 20130119+deb7u1; jessie: 20141019+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 20141019+deb8u2; stretch: 20160104; sid: 20161130; stretch: 20161130 |
| 23:09.08 | somiaj | CQ: try the ones from jessie-proposed-updates? |
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| 23:09.38 | somiaj | CQ: also what is giving you that error, this package I don't hitnk is designed to have all certs, just lots of common ones. |
| 23:09.53 | CQ | somiaj: seems like a minor change only considering the date? |
| 23:10.06 | CQ | This should be for letsencrypt certs... and it used to work, strangely enough |
| 23:10.20 | somiaj | CQ: that is how jessie works, only bug fixes. But it could be the change has backported some newer certs that may fix your problem. |
| 23:10.58 | somiaj | CQ: i.e. debian will backport needed fixes. Though I don't know the interals of certs that well so can't say more than you could try the bug fixe in jessie-proposed-updates |
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| 23:15.33 | nickgaw | Hi, Before I reinstall this testing system with just the command line and no GUI is network-manager installed as part of the base system if wireless networks are selected during the network installation? |
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| 23:16.06 | CQ | somiaj: where do I find the file? https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ca-certificates doesn't show proposed-updates |
| 23:16.31 | CQ | ...else can I just grab the sid version? |
| 23:16.32 | somiaj | nickgaw: no, debian will use more internals and put the info in the interfaces file and rely on command line tools to bring it up. |
| 23:16.52 | somiaj | nickgaw: you can install network-manager after the fact if you want it. Though personally I prefer wpasupllicant in roam mode of network-manager |
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| 23:17.47 | somiaj | CQ: https://www.debian.org/releases/proposed-updates.html |
| 23:17.50 | nickgaw | Can the system be configured to connect to networks on the go if I only have the command line utilities instaleed? |
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| 23:18.28 | somiaj | nickgaw: yes wpa_supplicant in roam mode will even switch networks for you as you say are on a bus, or move from one network to another. |
| 23:18.49 | somiaj | nickgaw: there is a good howto in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant on how to set up roam moad with the interfaces file last I recalled. |
| 23:19.57 | nickgaw | By default is it installed during the installation and why is the interfaces file during the installation when doing a command line installation not instaled on the target system? |
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| 23:20.31 | somiaj | nickgaw: /etc/network/interfaces was always installed last I checked. But it will only contain lo unless you also configured a network during the install |
| 23:20.48 | somiaj | nickgaw: wpasupplicant I think is now default, but it is included the the laptop-tools metapackage you may want to install. |
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| 23:21.32 | somiaj | I personally deal with network stuff after the install (mostly cause of firmware) and then configure it at that time, but you can completely control wifi without any gui tools (even network-manager can be controlled over the cli if that is what you prefer to use) |
| 23:21.39 | somiaj | I only mentioned wpasupplicant as that is what I like. |
| 23:21.51 | awal1 | I have downloaded a .zip file (1 gb +). after unziping it I find that it have 100+ files in it all ending with jp2.zip. How to unzip them all just once? with a single command |
| 23:22.29 | nickgaw | no wireless networks are setup even if you do a testing install with no desktop I have tested this before. why is wireless networking not working after the command line installation? |
| 23:22.33 | somiaj | awal1: for i in * *zip; do unzip $i; done |
| 23:22.40 | somiaj | opps there is an extra * there |
| 23:22.44 | somiaj | awal1: for i in *zip; do unzip $i; done |
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| 23:24.09 | somiaj | nickgaw: most likely due to missing firmware. If you had the firmware it should work. Check out the fimrware installer |
| 23:24.12 | somiaj | !firmware installer |
| 23:24.12 | dpkg | Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. |
| 23:24.17 | somiaj | nickgaw: though unsrue if they have one for testing yet. |
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| 23:25.27 | awal1 | somiaj: ok, I'll try that, but how to specify destination for the unzipped files (-d)? |
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| 23:25.56 | nickgaw | I always use the non-free firmware as my wired and wireless network cards require firmware and still after the installation I am not able to telnet or ftp out even when during the installation at a busybox prompt I can do this just fine. |
| 23:25.57 | somiaj | awal1: if you want each in its own place you'll have to write a more complicated script. That one just unzips them in the current directory. |
| 23:26.12 | somiaj | nickgaw: this is with the testing installer? |
| 23:26.41 | nickgaw | yes both alpha and weekly images amd64. |
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| 23:27.00 | somiaj | hmm, unsure if this is a change or a bug. I haven't tested the new installer. |
| 23:27.13 | nickgaw | but if desktop is selected or just pressing enter at the select and install software wireless networking just works fine. |
| 23:27.46 | nickgaw | It has existed for several releases. |
| 23:27.50 | somiaj | nickgaw: maybe #debian-installer or #debain-boot on irc.oftc.net can shad some more light. |
| 23:28.01 | nickgaw | ok |
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| 23:28.08 | somiaj | nickgaw: on jessie it installs the interfaces file just fine, at leaast has aon all the vms I have installed jseeis on. |
| 23:28.21 | awal1 | somiaj: for i in *zip; do unzip $i; done won't work :P I think it's because the names of the files are as follow: BOOK 1 ABCD_jp2.zip ? |
| 23:28.23 | somiaj | nickgaw: maybe it is how you are using the installer, but unsure on the details. |
| 23:28.42 | somiaj | awal1: unzip "$i" |
| 23:28.49 | somiaj | awal1: yes spaces in names are just a pain. (: |
| 23:28.51 | nickgaw | I will talk to them en. |
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| 23:31.46 | awal1 | somiaj: perfect for i in *zip; do unzip "$i"; done works like a charm. thanks! I'll have to learn more about bash and scripting |
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