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| 00:08.12 | q37 | How do I setup wlan0 to connect to my router? |
| 00:08.26 | notafile | I'd nm-applet |
| 00:09.24 | q37 | I have no Internet connection and no de just the command line |
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| 00:10.30 | q37 | I want to connect and get whatever I need so I can run startx, or don't have to |
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| 00:18.11 | q37 | I looked at man ifconfig but could figure how to add an IP address |
| 00:18.31 | blotek | q73 same as for ethernet connection |
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| 00:19.45 | q37 | Idk that either, is it ifconfig wlan0 address 192etc |
| 00:20.20 | blotek | is your wifi card detected in ifconfig ? |
| 00:20.29 | blotek | or did you install iwconfig somehow ? |
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| 00:23.11 | q37 | Idk... I've been trying for two days trying to install debian... It was never this hard before |
| 00:23.46 | q37 | It didn't come up unless I used -a |
| 00:24.14 | blotek | q73 I've send you priv |
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| 00:24.22 | blotek | dont wanna paste so much here |
| 00:24.47 | q37 | Thanks I will try it |
| 00:25.08 | blotek | well debian installer help you setup wifi as long as your card is detected and you don't have working ethernet connection already |
| 00:25.27 | blotek | just download nonfree firmware installer and you might have more luck installing the easy way |
| 00:26.12 | blotek | otherwise you have to load the driver (modprobe) meanwhile installation so it might be way easier for you to download non-free iso |
| 00:26.43 | blotek | https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 00:27.05 | q37 | I'm on mobile :/ |
| 00:27.08 | blotek | you can also try live non-free to see if you wifi gets detected |
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| 00:28.11 | blotek | q37 if you have android phone you can use usb tethering to install then |
| 00:28.17 | blotek | works out of the box with most phones |
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| 00:29.13 | blotek | not sure if you can do the same with Iphone |
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| 00:49.12 | okee | would someone be able to help me recover a damaged boot with rescuecd? i am at prompt asking me to type in net-setup eth0 to configure the ethernet setup. |
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| 01:12.15 | doneir | Hi all. I've created some LUA content for nginx using openresty (as it's referenced by the official nginx website), i've installed nginx-extras, however I receive an error from my config of ""unknown directive "content_by_lua_block". Investigation shows openresty doesn't seem to be available in the debian repos and perhaps only direct luagit has been installed by the nginx-extras package. Is there a |
| 01:12.21 | doneir | recommended repository for openresty support? |
| 01:12.39 | doneir | *luajit |
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| 01:18.28 | doneir | it seems content_by_lua works, but not content_by_lua_block |
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| 01:47.23 | noobular | Hi again |
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| 01:48.45 | noobular | When I try to boot from the Live DVD it says something about a file called g2ldr.mbr |
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| 02:04.22 | raynold | ahh it's a wonderful day |
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| 02:13.00 | Vantouras | guys i was in toronto this weekend |
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| 02:13.42 | Vantouras | nobody moved from their chairs right |
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| 02:58.45 | tp43_ | chromium crashes on me sometimes, so then I kill it, but then when I try to restart it it starts but I can see it, it doesn't paint on the screen properly. So I tried to delete .config/chromium directory and .cache/chromium directory and it still doesn't work. so I have to restart debian, or maybe I can just restart X, dunno, but either way, I wish I could clear what ever gets cleared on restart instead of actually restarting. |
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| 03:01.04 | mystified_ | Hey guys, I speak English. But I'm assisting someone who is speaks only Greek. |
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| 03:01.20 | mystified_ | I'm looking to see id debian has a greek handbook. |
| 03:01.31 | awal1 | tp43_, check if your chromium and whole system is up-to-date |
| 03:01.33 | dvs | !gr |
| 03:01.33 | dpkg | Îιά βοήθεια ÏÏα Îλληνικά ÏαÏÎ±ÎºÎ±Î»Ï Î´Î¿ÎºÎ¹Î¼Î¬ÏÏε ÏÏο #debian-gr on irc.oftc.net (irc.debian.org). Gia voitheia sta ellinika dokimaste to #debian-gr on irc.oftc.net (irc.debian.org). For help in Greek please try #debian-gr on irc.oftc.net (irc.debian.org). |
| 03:01.55 | mystified_ | If not debian does anyone know what other distros would have a greek handbook. |
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| 03:03.17 | mystified_ | That's ok, But, he is going back to his old windows pc in greece, |
| 03:03.36 | mystified_ | He is in his 80's a& not very compuyter literate. |
| 03:03.59 | mystified_ | Thus why I'm asking for the handbook in greek. |
| 03:04.07 | dvs | mystified_, https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
| 03:04.20 | mystified_ | I will creates a live usb & Dvd img |
| 03:04.35 | mystified_ | so he can start the install. |
| 03:05.11 | mystified_ | Thanks DVS |
| 03:05.31 | dvs | no prob |
| 03:07.41 | nedstark | budgie is pretty easy to use |
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| 03:16.58 | dfcnvt | How do you turn off the notification while the desktop is already logged out and is on lock screen? During the lock screen. I _think_ the chrome browser's status balloon popup with FB's message status made all those a bug or it's normal for status notification to appear in the lock screen? |
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| 03:27.25 | ephemer0l | anyone have pepperflash working with chromium? |
| 03:27.32 | ephemer0l | seems it's broken |
| 03:28.51 | ephemer0l | packaging of the (binary|libs) is bad on Jessie |
| 03:28.51 | ephemer0l | 2017-01-08 22:01:34 (10.7 MB/s) - â/tmp/pepperflashplugin-nonfree.56kIjiREhz/google-chrome-stable_55.0.2883.87-1_amd64.debâ saved [46241756/46241756] |
| 03:28.51 | ephemer0l | mv: cannot stat 'unpackchrome/opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so': No such file or directory |
| 03:29.30 | themill | I vaguely remember something about google killing it |
| 03:30.20 | missmbob | bug #841373 |
| 03:30.21 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/841373 in pepperflashplugin-nonfree (open): «mv: cannot stat 'unpackchrome/opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so': No such file or directory»; severity: critical; opened: 2016-10-20; last modified: 2016-11-22. |
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| 03:38.01 | Breadchump | MAN WHAT THE FUCK |
| 03:38.13 | Breadchump | getting banned from all these FUCKING channels |
| 03:38.18 | Breadchump | i am SO fucking PISSED OFF |
| 03:38.31 | netmk | yes, IRC is serious business |
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| 03:57.36 | wb7odyfred | Hello JamesCorry, whats happening in GA? |
| 03:58.19 | JamesCorry | It's cold here. Best to stay indoors |
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| 04:02.48 | wb7odyfred | Now warm rain and temperatures are melting snow turning into slush., |
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| 04:15.13 | UKCoder | Hi all, having difficulties getting a USB drive mounted in rw mode. I'm using the /etc/fstab entry "/dev/sda1 /media/pi/1C7CAF1A7CAEEDA8 ntfs rw,defaults 0 0" with no joy, ignores my settings and mounts it ro |
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| 04:23.20 | KODY92802138 | Is there any reasons that directory of nfs shares starts with /export/~~~ ? |
| 04:25.04 | wb7odyfred | probably makes sense to person that created the nfs share scripts? |
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| 04:31.06 | Eduard_Munteanu | UKCoder, you need ntfs-3g for r/w support, the normal kernel driver is read-only. |
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| 04:31.59 | Eduard_Munteanu | UKCoder, although I'd highly advise you use another filesystem |
| 04:32.03 | UKCoder | Thanks Eduard_Munteanu , wb7odyfred also just pm'd me with a similar lead and as I read it I remembered "duh" :-) |
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| 04:36.37 | WildPenguin | hello, could anybody please tell me how to install packages from Jessie backports? and is it safe to do so? |
| 04:37.56 | PryMar56 | WildPenguin, the kernel-4.8 from backports has a severe bug where entering a chroot with older libc6 causes a segfault |
| 04:38.10 | WildPenguin | ok. |
| 04:38.36 | WildPenguin | If I need a specific package. like a pdf reader? |
| 04:38.51 | PryMar56 | if you still have kernel-4.7 (bpo) don't update it |
| 04:39.06 | WildPenguin | ok |
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| 04:40.36 | WildPenguin | so the advice is to stick with Debian Stable. Not to go for backports. Isn't it? |
| 04:41.10 | awal1 | !backports |
| 04:41.10 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 04:42.50 | WildPenguin | thanks a lot. |
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| 04:43.47 | awal1 | !jessie backports |
| 04:43.47 | dpkg | Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
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| 04:45.35 | awal1 | WildPenguin, follow this http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 07:07.42 | TestingIRC | when I do "ls /et" and then press tab to autocomplete it says: |
| 07:07.43 | TestingIRC | bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device |
| 07:07.46 | TestingIRC | how to fix it ? |
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| 07:10.55 | mohsen_hassani | Hello guys; I have a virtual machine on whose (recovery mode) I can login with no problem; but when I reboot the machine and I want to login on tty1 it does not recognize the users, and says "login incorrect". |
| 07:11.39 | mohsen_hassani | I can't access neither root nor normal users. |
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| 08:02.14 | joe__ | need some help updating grub i booted via grub> but now need some help to update grub.cfg it wont update |
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| 08:03.39 | merloon | hi joelsmith |
| 08:03.50 | merloon | hi joe__ |
| 08:03.56 | joe__ | hi |
| 08:04.11 | merloon | is the filesystem is in rw mode ? |
| 08:04.37 | joe__ | no idea |
| 08:04.52 | merloon | on you terminal type mount |
| 08:05.28 | merloon | you are on the grub prompt on in system maintenance mode ? |
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| 08:06.06 | Iota | Good morning, world! |
| 08:06.23 | joe__ | http://pastebin.com/AMh5cHw7 |
| 08:07.03 | joe__ | i booted via grubshell |
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| 08:09.02 | joe__ | installed parrot os but grub failed so i installed grub via live session then i got the grub> shell and booted that way |
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| 08:09.53 | joe__ | but now it returns update-grub |
| 08:10.06 | joe__ | update-grub |
| 08:11.09 | joe__ | usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 253: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: cannot create /boot/grub/grub.cfg.new: Directory nonexistent |
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| 08:12.33 | jim | you couldn't boot the parrot? (no animals were hurt during this irc line) |
| 08:13.32 | jim | is it right, the dir isn't there? |
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| 08:14.51 | jim | not responding at the moment... oh well |
| 08:14.56 | joe__ | no grub didnt want to install from the iso |
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| 08:16.24 | jim | ok, there are a lot of possibilties here... so you installed an os (parrot I guess?) and then booted an iso with grub, in order to try installing it? |
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| 08:17.17 | jim | before we go much further, would there be a debian on the same machine? |
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| 08:17.25 | joe__ | no |
| 08:17.52 | jim | or any other os that has a working grub? |
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| 08:19.01 | joe__ | no it works now but updating grub.cfg wont work |
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| 08:19.50 | jim | ok, are you in an os on that machine that has a shell so you can check for dirs? |
| 08:20.11 | joe__ | i installed from drivedroid on my phone got no dvd player no usb stick |
| 08:20.59 | joe__ | yes i booted into the machine via grub> shell |
| 08:21.00 | jim | let's back up just a sec... we've been talkign about your phone during this conversation? |
| 08:21.52 | jim | ok, let's see... is there a separate boot partition? |
| 08:22.46 | joe__ | fdisk -l | pastebinit |
| 08:23.14 | joe__ | http://pastebin.com/wX1PAZE3 |
| 08:23.20 | joe__ | yes |
| 08:23.29 | jim | or for pastebinit you can sub nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 08:24.25 | joe__ | its boot root swap home sdb |
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| 08:25.22 | jim | so /dev/sdb1 is /boot... is it mounted? |
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| 08:26.08 | joe__ | i dont know |
| 08:26.16 | jim | trying to verify whether the error message from before is true |
| 08:26.32 | jim | ok, try: df /boot |
| 08:27.19 | jim | it should be one line |
| 08:27.25 | joe__ | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 08:27.49 | joe__ | yes it is |
| 08:27.53 | jim | that's the only line? |
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| 08:27.59 | jim | the header? |
| 08:28.24 | joe__ | sec |
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| 08:29.18 | jim | what could that mean... / has to be mounted, right? maybe it means there is no dir /boot on the partition mounted as / |
| 08:29.30 | joe__ | http://termbin.com/1iqz |
| 08:30.08 | jim | oh ok, so it is mounted... let's see... |
| 08:31.17 | joe__ | update-grub returns /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 253: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: cannot create /boot/grub/grub.cfg.new: Directory nonexistent |
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| 08:32.34 | jim | cannot create /boot/grub/grub.cfg.new: Directory nonexistent is the message you reported... and we know /boot exists... so, does /boot/grub exist? |
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| 08:35.19 | samael | hello. how often (and after which events) does systemd-timesyncd check the NTP servers on jessie? can't find any documentation about that |
| 08:35.40 | joe__ | file system /boot/ has no grub folder |
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| 08:38.01 | joe__ | im installing grub again i think thats the problem |
| 08:38.26 | jim | joe__, that could explain why the attempted install didn't work... make the dir, and then can you try again? |
| 08:38.29 | Drzacek | Hi |
| 08:38.34 | jim | hi |
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| 08:39.25 | Drzacek | I have a question about installation process. I installed debian many times and it always took almost forever, but I never worried about that - I usually installed on some older hardware |
| 08:40.14 | jim | good thing it was almost forever... or you'd still be doing it! |
| 08:40.16 | Drzacek | But now I'm installing on a rather decent machine with SSD disk, and installing the base system runs already 1h |
| 08:40.21 | Drzacek | :D |
| 08:40.45 | jim | that's weird |
| 08:40.51 | jim | an hour? |
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| 08:41.25 | Drzacek | I wonder, does it have to do that I install from pendrive, or does the installation do some magical stuff in background that takes so long? |
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| 08:42.27 | jim | the install I used installed the base within a reasonable amount of time |
| 08:42.34 | Drzacek | I know that copying many many files will take a lot longer than just dd 4gb from A to B, but cmon |
| 08:42.53 | Drzacek | and its only the base, it didn't even asked me yet what software I want |
| 08:43.01 | jim | that's both the stable and testing branches... what's the filename of the installer image? |
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| 08:43.27 | jim | so no tasksel yet |
| 08:44.34 | jim | when you say you used an installer, which one was it? |
| 08:44.51 | Drzacek | I downloaded 32bit .ISO |
| 08:45.06 | Drzacek | no netinstall, dvd image |
| 08:45.09 | joe__ | ok i think it worked now gonna try to reboot wish me luck or i gotta type the locations in grub> again lol took me 30 min to find root and vmlinuz and initbr lol |
| 08:45.24 | jim | do you still have the file? can you tell me its name? |
| 08:45.37 | jim | joe__, good luck |
| 08:46.33 | Drzacek | jim, not sure, looking on my hdd, but I think I prepared this usb on other machine |
| 08:46.40 | jim | joe__, the initrd (and vmlinuz) should be in /dev/sd1 |
| 08:46.46 | jim | err sdb1 |
| 08:47.29 | Drzacek | debian-8.4.0-i386-DVD-1.iso |
| 08:47.46 | jim | Drzacek, so, jessie |
| 08:47.52 | jim | and a dvd? |
| 08:47.54 | Drzacek | yeah, jessie |
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| 08:48.08 | Drzacek | no network mirrors |
| 08:48.19 | jim | would you care to try a small experiment? |
| 08:48.40 | jim | how do you mean no mirrors? |
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| 08:49.12 | Drzacek | I started the installation about 8:20 am, now it is 9:48 here, so 1h 30minutes (give or take 15 minutes for partitioning, user setup etc), still on base system install |
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| 08:49.45 | Drzacek | jim, I believe it asks at some point to use network mirrors and use them instead of dvd (pendrive) repo, but he is not there yet |
| 08:49.54 | jim | something's wrong... it shouldn't take that long |
| 08:50.13 | Drzacek | It is almost ready though |
| 08:50.34 | Drzacek | so, what experiment? |
| 08:51.19 | jim | download a small installer image and write that (with dd) to the usb stick... then try booting that |
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| 08:52.43 | Drzacek | you mean net install? |
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| 08:53.21 | Drzacek | nevermind, found it |
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| 08:54.16 | jim | here's one that could work: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.6.0+nonfree/i386/iso-cd/firmware-8.6.0-i386-netinst.iso |
| 08:54.37 | Drzacek | I'm not sure where should I try that, I don't want to abort this installation, and there is no other machine/hdd where I could try installing. But I try that next time |
| 08:55.00 | jim | ok |
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| 08:57.29 | Drzacek | how long does it take for you to install debian normally? |
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| 09:37.13 | joe__ | ji; u still here? |
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| 09:37.45 | joe__ | it didnt work |
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| 09:41.16 | joe__ | can someone help me with my grub.cfg my machine only boots when i give grub> commands |
| 09:42.26 | joe__ | i prob need to add those to grub.cfg but i need some help |
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| 09:46.40 | jelly | joe__: pastebin the output of "dpkg -l grub\*" and "ls -la /boot/" |
| 09:46.42 | jelly | !paste |
| 09:46.43 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 09:48.33 | joe__ | http://pastebin.com/2e895yCR |
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| 09:49.27 | joe__ | http://pastebin.com/jSnWXcmC |
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| 09:55.01 | blimpie | i'm having a problem with broken dependency packages, can't install certain programs from synaptic |
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| 09:56.45 | blimpie | nm |
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| 10:02.15 | WildPenguin | guys, whta |
| 10:02.45 | WildPenguin | what is your opinion about the Debian stable based MX Linux? |
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| 10:03.54 | bazhang | WildPenguin, you were on lubuntu I thought |
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| 10:04.18 | themill | WildPenguin: #debian still only recommends and supports Debian |
| 10:04.37 | Drzacek | Okay, now it is getting ridicolous. A plain debian install that takes 2.5h and is not at 50% yet? I have seriously some issues with my hardware |
| 10:05.02 | WildPenguin | I was just checking this site distrowatch.com. Filtered the distros based on Debian Stable criteria. Got some info on MX. |
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| 10:05.34 | WildPenguin | that question was just out of curiosity. |
| 10:06.01 | bazhang | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:06.28 | WildPenguin | bazhang, I didn't get you. |
| 10:06.29 | Drzacek | What could be possible causes for that? I'm installing debian jessie (8.4) from pendrive (dvd iso), machine is i5 with 8gb ram, some small (mini itx?) motherboard, it has internal flash storage + sata hdd, but I'm installing to external SSD (over usb 3.0). |
| 10:06.48 | Drzacek | Could it have some problems with loading proper drivers? |
| 10:06.56 | Drzacek | any way to check/troubleshoot/diagnose? |
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| 10:11.10 | jelly | WildPenguin: there are dozens, if not hundreds of tiny one-man images based on debian; it's probably not reasonable to expect peple have dealt with each of those |
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| 10:11.44 | WildPenguin | ok |
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| 10:19.08 | Dreaman | Drzacek just install ubuntu in this parametes of system |
| 10:19.33 | Drzacek | Dreaman, and what will that do? |
| 10:19.59 | Dreaman | download ubuntu iso rufus usb installer and boot |
| 10:20.06 | Dreaman | partishan of hdd |
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| 10:20.16 | Dreaman | 50 gb min |
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| 10:20.26 | Drzacek | but I don't need ubuntu, only debian |
| 10:20.42 | Dreaman | Drzacek stable debian old packets |
| 10:20.53 | Drzacek | gonna upgrade to stretch |
| 10:21.13 | Dreaman | just install testing |
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| 10:22.56 | Dreaman | Drzacek my laptop is i7 and 20 min install linux |
| 10:23.16 | Drzacek | I was told not to install testing directly, only to upgrade |
| 10:23.19 | missmbob | stretch installer is for testing the installer, not for installing stretch. |
| 10:23.45 | Dreaman | !testing iso |
| 10:23.45 | dpkg | Daily built <netinst> images to install <testing> are available from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . The chance of the testing installer being broken on any given day is quite high. Instead, do a minimal installation using the stable installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Also ask me about <testing installer>, <apt-listchanges>, <d-d-a>. |
| 10:23.59 | missmbob | the correct way is to install stable, then upgrade. |
| 10:24.07 | Drzacek | missmbob, exactly |
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| 10:24.27 | Drzacek | problem is, it doesn't install 20 minutes on this machine :/ |
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| 10:26.36 | Dreaman | Drzacek net install |
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| 10:33.25 | echosystm | hi guys |
| 10:33.32 | echosystm | i need a lot of help setting up qos |
| 10:33.58 | echosystm | i have 2 LAN interfaces - wlan0 and eth0 |
| 10:34.17 | echosystm | i also have 2 WAN interfaces - ppp0 and tun0 |
| 10:34.35 | echosystm | tun0 runs over ppp0 and ppp0 runs over eth1 |
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| 10:34.52 | echosystm | eth0 reaches the internet through tun0 |
| 10:35.00 | echosystm | and wlan0 reaches the internet through ppp0 |
| 10:35.06 | echosystm | so... to summarise... |
| 10:35.16 | echosystm | wlan0 -> eth0 -> ppp0 |
| 10:35.27 | echosystm | ugh |
| 10:35.28 | Drzacek | whats eth1 then? |
| 10:35.35 | echosystm | wlan0 -> eth1 -> ppp0 |
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| 10:35.48 | echosystm | eth0 -> eth1 -> ppp0 -> tun0 |
| 10:35.53 | echosystm | sorry i got it mixed up |
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| 10:36.03 | echosystm | ok! so thats how it's all set up. all good and working. |
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| 10:36.18 | echosystm | now, basically i want to make anything on wlan0 take priority over anything on eth0 |
| 10:36.35 | echosystm | how do i do that? and how does it relate to ppp0 and tun0? |
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| 10:40.48 | echosystm | sorry brb reboot |
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| 10:44.11 | c00kiemon5ter | hi all |
| 10:44.30 | c00kiemon5ter | I am trying to add an apt repo in sources.list but it is available from part 8000 |
| 10:44.33 | c00kiemon5ter | s/part/port/ |
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| 10:45.05 | c00kiemon5ter | so.. I'm trying to add this: deb http://myserver.debian.org:8000 jessie |
| 10:45.22 | c00kiemon5ter | but it seems apt picks up the url but ignores the port |
| 10:45.44 | c00kiemon5ter | and that results in a timeout, because there is nothing in port 80 |
| 10:45.52 | SpaceAce | whats the most up to date guide on setting up a chrooted sftp server? |
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| 10:50.20 | grawity | I don't think it has changed in a while |
| 10:50.24 | grawity | something like this, anyway http://sprunge.us/PaBf |
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| 10:51.55 | grawity | no, that's not quite right |
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| 10:56.21 | jelly | joe__: which debian release is this supposed to be? |
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| 10:56.34 | joe__ | parrot os |
| 10:57.00 | jelly | that's not debian? |
| 10:57.33 | joe__ | its based on it no? |
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| 10:58.18 | jelly | but a different distro |
| 10:58.27 | jelly | !parrot os |
| 10:58.27 | dpkg | Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 10:58.31 | joe__ | its the basic os no tools |
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| 11:00.13 | joe__ | theres few people there and #grub nobody answers |
| 11:00.57 | joe__ | i need a grub master |
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| 11:03.25 | jelly | joe__: eh. You said /boot/grub/ was empty? |
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| 11:04.58 | joe__ | i reinstalled grub and it updated but i still get the grub shell on boot |
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| 11:06.36 | joe__ | i need to add those parameters to grub.cfg but i dont know what to change |
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| 11:07.32 | GPenguin | i dont know how to edit grub.cfg either |
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| 11:13.02 | TomTomTo1 | no touchy grub.cfg. /etc/default/grub is what you can edit. |
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| 11:14.04 | joe__ | i get a grub shell on bootup |
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| 11:21.57 | joe__ | theres so many people here and nobody talks? |
| 11:22.16 | bezaban | correct |
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| 11:25.01 | joe__ | i type 3 lines in the grub shell to boot how hard can it be to add it to grub.cfg |
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| 11:31.19 | stripper | hi fellas, looking for a likkle help here? |
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| 11:32.10 | stripper | can't seem to understand how to run these instructions, can anyone help me out pls |
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| 11:32.28 | joe__ | maybe |
| 11:32.47 | stripper | thx |
| 11:32.49 | stripper | https://github.com/jethrogb/lenovo-password |
| 11:33.40 | stripper | that is the link for the whole instruction , I have no idea how to implement " Enter the password and store the password hash in environment variable P:" |
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| 11:34.55 | missmbob | it tells you. |
| 11:34.56 | missmbob | P="$(ruby pw.rb sda.ata_identify)" |
| 11:35.03 | joe__ | u trying to crack a hdd password? |
| 11:35.45 | stripper | got an issue with a lenovo ssd that i locked with a 13 character string password via bios but each time i try to unlock it the crazy system will only accept 8 characters |
| 11:36.03 | petemc | does it still unlock ? |
| 11:36.07 | stripper | am not trying to crack it |
| 11:36.49 | stripper | unlocking it is what am trying to do and it is now attached to a sata 2 usb adapter |
| 11:37.00 | stripper | I know my password |
| 11:37.08 | babilen | You might want to ensure that you are running the latest firmware. Maybe that issues has been fixed in recent versions |
| 11:37.22 | babilen | (also ensure that the keymap is correct) |
| 11:37.38 | stripper | not a firmware issue |
| 11:38.05 | stripper | This bypasses bios completely , this is a FEd issue. |
| 11:38.29 | stripper | the last post here is mine https://jbeekman.nl/blog/2015/03/lenovo-thinkpad-hdd-password/ |
| 11:39.05 | grawity | stripper: when you say the system will only accept 8 characters |
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| 11:39.09 | grawity | stripper: which part of the system do you mean? |
| 11:39.16 | grawity | some Linux command? |
| 11:39.34 | joe__ | hey stripper do u know how to fix grub problems |
| 11:40.01 | stripper | based on algorithm by jethrod the author it looks like u save the password u used to lock it in that ruby whatever and then the parsing is then paseed as ata instruction to the drive |
| 11:40.07 | stripper | i do |
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| 11:40.31 | stripper | but like i said this bypasses the os or bios once the drive is encypted |
| 11:41.02 | stripper | i have basic linux cmd |
| 11:42.07 | joe__ | im getting a grub shell instead of the bootloader so i use some commands to boot how do i add or configure grub.cfg? |
| 11:42.08 | stripper | but i can't figure for that life of me where that password whould be entered in the ruby thing the author stipulated |
| 11:42.48 | mrtnt | Am I correct that startup-scripts in Debian are run under the user root? |
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| 11:43.14 | jelly | joe__: you seem to have grub-legacy installed, not grub-pc |
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| 11:43.39 | stripper | "joe__" am wrong man to ask for help , thought u were trying to help me . am too dumb to even wipe myself . so cannot help u |
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| 11:44.39 | jelly | joe__: that one uses /boot/grub/menu.lst as menu, and special "comments" therein as configuration |
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| 11:45.22 | jelly | joe__: and after eiditing those comments one has to run "update-grub" to actually update the generated lines |
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| 11:47.00 | stripper | grawity: i meant the 2nd part of the instruction where the author ask to save password in a file |
| 11:47.10 | jelly | joe__: so, figure out whether you have grub legacy (0.97) or grub-pc (2.x) booting. If you want 2.x active in the boot record, install grub-pc |
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| 11:48.25 | joe__ | how do i check wich 1 i got? |
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| 11:51.21 | joe__ | it says no grub legacy removed |
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| 11:52.32 | joe__ | the shell i get on bootup is grub 2.0 jelly |
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| 11:56.05 | stripper | grawity, am referring to the 2nd step outlined by the author of the tool |
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| 12:02.31 | Aebian | shouldn't I be able to enter a folder if I'm in a group that has access to that folder and I set for testing purposes 770 as chmod? |
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| 12:07.57 | NoxiousPloK | yes |
| 12:08.10 | NoxiousPloK | did you logout and login again after being assigned the group? |
| 12:08.23 | stripper | petemc, no it does not unlock , I get input/output error each time I attempt my original password in "hdparm" which is the tool used by this algo |
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| 12:12.24 | GPenguin | Aebian: did you logout and back in after changing the group? |
| 12:12.51 | GPenguin | damn. i am an idiot. please ignore me |
| 12:13.28 | stripper | GPenguin, I already did :) |
| 12:16.25 | GPenguin | :) |
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| 12:19.13 | Aebian | GPenguin: rgr |
| 12:19.37 | Aebian | and yes I did |
| 12:20.40 | Aebian | and id states also that I'm member of that group uid=1000(aebian) gid=1000(aebian) groups=1000(aebian),27(sudo),33(www-data) |
| 12:21.27 | Aebian | group is www-data |
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| 12:23.13 | n4dir | perhaps, perhaps not: if you want to access the directory, you must also have according setting of the directory it is to be found in? /path/to/root-dir/dir ; one will need rights in root-dir too. |
| 12:23.24 | n4dir | pretty much never run in that, but it comes to my mind. |
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| 12:28.09 | sonOfRa | I dropped a systemd dropin file in /etc/systemd/system/apache2.d/apache2.conf, executed systemctl daemon-reload, but for some reason, the dropin isn't picked up? |
| 12:28.19 | sonOfRa | Are dropins not supported by the systemd version in jessie? |
| 12:29.24 | jelly | what's a dropin? |
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| 12:30.08 | sonOfRa | jelly: systemd supports (maybe not in jessie?) dropins. That means I can put a file /etc/systemd/system/unit.d/name.conf, and configuration in name.conf should be read when the unit is executed |
| 12:31.18 | jelly | sonOfRa: there's no unit named just "apache2", but there can be one named "apache2.service" if you have apache2 installed |
| 12:31.21 | teraflops | sonOfRa: oh, there's no systemd unit for apache in jessie, not sure it's related |
| 12:31.29 | teraflops | if* |
| 12:31.59 | sonOfRa | Oh, thanks jelly. That was the problem indeed |
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| 12:32.51 | teraflops | sonOfRa: there's a /lib/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/forking.conf file |
| 12:32.59 | teraflops | so it has to work at some point |
| 12:33.09 | sonOfRa | yeah, the problem was that I misnamed the directory |
| 12:33.15 | teraflops | ah, good |
| 12:33.24 | sonOfRa | should be /etc/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/. I had apache2.d/ |
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| 12:34.07 | jelly | systemctl status apache2.service # wfm |
| 12:34.39 | sonOfRa | yup, it's all there now, and PrivateTmp is working as it should. Hooray. |
| 12:34.52 | jelly | !win sonOfRa |
| 12:34.52 | dpkg | Congratulations, sonOfRa! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 12:35.04 | sonOfRa | But I already have that :( |
| 12:35.17 | jelly | NO REFUNDS |
| 12:36.05 | teraflops | jelly: but the unit file does not exists |
| 12:36.18 | teraflops | exist* |
| 12:36.49 | teraflops | (if you were talking to me) |
| 12:37.19 | jelly | teraflops: magic! |
| 12:37.33 | teraflops | nah, is debian being debian ;) |
| 12:38.11 | jelly | it's just sysvinit compatibility generator thingy |
| 12:38.15 | teraflops | yeah |
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| 12:39.23 | stripper | so anyone else had a chance to look into my my request for assistance? |
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| 12:41.19 | stripper | missmbob, it says to enter password but i have no idea how to implement that , mind enumerating how i should |
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| 12:42.42 | meldron | hey guys just tried to setup dkim keys with opendkim-genkey -b 2048 -h rsa-sha256 -r, but then my opendkim-testkey complained about unknown hash 'rsa-sha256' |
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| 12:52.32 | meldron | anyone familiar with that issue? |
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| 12:54.35 | dfcnvt | meldron: Try ask same question in #linux |
| 12:54.53 | babilen | Isn't that ##linux ? |
| 12:55.42 | stoned | What kind of stand alone panel do you might use with a Xmonad manageR? |
| 12:56.10 | stoned | I used to use kicker in kde, but that's not anymore |
| 12:56.15 | stoned | kde3 |
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| 14:14.47 | half-panic | not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'm attempting to create a armhf install on a sd card for a mk802 III (A9 processor). I have it installed, and it boots, but ifconfig/iwconfig don't exist and ip addr shows lo, sit0, and ip6tnl0... How would I go about wifi? |
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| 14:15.23 | half-panic | the armhf is a debian 8.6 system I believe.. |
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| 14:18.23 | jelly | half-panic: which specific SoC is there? Are you sure debian's kernel has drivers for its wifi? |
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| 14:18.34 | half-panic | SoC? |
| 14:18.57 | jelly | system on a chip. The "cpu" is not just a cpu, there's all sorts of stuff in there |
| 14:19.16 | half-panic | do you mean like rk3066? |
| 14:19.21 | half-panic | or armv7.1 |
| 14:19.27 | jelly | rk3066 |
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| 14:20.02 | jelly | (is it a rk3066 really?) |
| 14:20.03 | half-panic | I didn't create a kernel for it, I just made the sd on a netbook and chrooted in and fixed issues until it boots fully into awesome wm |
| 14:20.17 | half-panic | its a rikomagic mk802 III (olddd) |
| 14:20.25 | half-panic | it is however better than my netbook |
| 14:20.33 | half-panic | as far as graphics goes probably |
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| 14:21.03 | half-panic | unless I'm doing a poor job of installing graphics card support for my netbook, which would be awesome to know about, but for now I need an internet box |
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| 14:21.58 | jelly | half-panic: ok then, what does "uname -a" say? |
| 14:22.00 | smojphace | Anything I can do to stop apt-get dist-upgrade clobbering my currently running kernels /lib/modules/x.x.x ? |
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| 14:22.28 | half-panic | jelly: I turned it off, but it was linux 3.0.8 and armv7.1, unless you need something else |
| 14:22.32 | half-panic | I can fire it back up |
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| 14:22.48 | jelly | the actual output might show which SoC it really was |
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| 14:23.19 | half-panic | jelly: bootin it back up.... one sec |
| 14:23.26 | jelly | in any case, if you using vendor's kernel, you'll have to use the drivers built exactly for that kernel and debian can't really help with those |
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| 14:24.34 | half-panic | jelly: are you saying that the default kernel it runs doesn't have wifi drivers and it'll be more than just trying to get iwconfig and such working? |
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| 14:25.15 | half-panic | I was going to try installing some wireless-tools such as wpa-supplicant and see if that helps, but I also don't know... never had this issue yet |
| 14:26.13 | half-panic | jelly: https://autostatic.com/installing-linux-on-a-rk3066-based-device/ <-- I'm following that. Only did the create a root fs part so far |
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| 14:26.39 | half-panic | with additional steps added after mounting and chrooting because I knew I needed xorg, awesome and vim |
| 14:26.41 | jelly | half-panic: I'm saying whatever drivers you have, will be bound to that old fork of 3.0.x kernel |
| 14:27.15 | jelly | half-panic: see if there's a rockchip support channel, /msg alis list rockchip |
| 14:28.42 | boser | hello. i am upset. i try to konfigure debian jessie so that i can send email to any adresse i have. But i get no email out. can someome give me a good documentation about this? |
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| 14:29.20 | boser | google wasn't help me. |
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| 14:29.52 | stoned | I use mutt and gmail ;) |
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| 14:30.39 | stoned | https://wiki.debian.org/MTA |
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| 14:31.36 | stoned | lot of people use postfix. lot of people use a mail cilent only. |
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| 14:32.01 | teraflops | boser: I'm not sure about what are you asking about. |
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| 14:32.07 | half-panic | a good sendmail book is a life saver |
| 14:32.33 | stoned | boser: whatever you are trying to configure to send mail out from, you need an smtp server in there probably |
| 14:32.55 | stoned | your mail provider should have smtp and imap etc. |
| 14:33.05 | jelly | boser: which mail client do you use? |
| 14:33.12 | jelly | !ask |
| 14:33.12 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 14:33.13 | boser | mutt |
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| 14:34.17 | jelly | boser: does your ISP provide an outgoing mail (submission or smtp) server? |
| 14:34.22 | smojphace | Is there a supported way to keep hold of the currently running kernels /lib/modules when it gets upgraded via apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 14:36.14 | boser | ok, now. I have OS: debian jessie with all updates. I have install apatche, mysql, php, ... for webserver. Now i try to send a mail to my privat-email-adresse and i get no response from my privat-email-account. |
| 14:36.48 | boser | email-client: mutt. |
| 14:36.54 | petn-randall | smojphace: Usually only files that already existed in the old kernel package will be overwritten. What problem are you trying to fix? |
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| 14:37.20 | teraflops | boser: did you read what jelly asked? |
| 14:37.44 | petn-randall | smojphace: If you're overwriting files from the kernel package by hand, there are probably saner ways to accomplish this. |
| 14:37.50 | jelly | smojphace: it will replace all the modules that originally came with kernel package. Did you manually overwrite some of those? |
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| 14:38.02 | boser | stand by |
| 14:39.27 | smojphace | petn-randall, jelly: I've run an apt-get dist-upgrade and as part of upgrading to a newer kernel it has deleted the /lib/modules dir for the currently running kernel.. and there are a few commands I would like to run without rebooting first, but these rely on modules being present - for example ufw, which required ip_tables loaded |
| 14:40.04 | smojphace | so they are now gone, and my only option is to reboot to use the newer kernel |
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| 14:41.39 | petn-randall | smojphace: Are you sure you didn't just install a different package and removed the current kernel? If it only was an update, you should still have the modules present, albeit being from the updated kernel (but they should be ABI compatible). |
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| 14:42.21 | madri | hi, Shred is not deleting any file, but there is not an error message anyways. Would you know what is happening? |
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| 14:43.17 | jelly | smojphace: yes, that's correct |
| 14:43.49 | jelly | smojphace: you're expected to reboot after upgrading the kernel |
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| 14:44.50 | smojphace | petn-randall, jelly: Well dist-upgrade has done, at what point do they become ABI in-compatible? Could I just symlink temporarily - or do I really need to reboot? |
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| 14:46.19 | jelly | smojphace: they're ABI compatible towards third party modules. No compatibility is guaranteed between internally compiled components. |
| 14:46.38 | jelly | smojphace: you absolutely need to reboot. |
| 14:47.08 | smojphace | jelly: Ah darn it, sounds like I better had! Thanks, and petn-randall also :) |
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| 14:55.35 | f1re | Hi, i accidentaly delete my fstab. Is this possible to generate a fstab like archlinux ? |
| 14:56.09 | dpete | anyone here using compton as their compositor on sid? |
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| 14:58.36 | toruvinn | f1re, it's probably quite easy to be honest. which Debian? |
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| 14:59.23 | f1re | Jessie, i just don't have the motivation to do it manually |
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| 15:00.27 | toruvinn | well, i'd do it manually; otherwise no idea. just take a "fresh" jess installation fstab and replace your root, swaps, whatever else you have mounted. |
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| 15:00.46 | smojphace | f1re: man 8 findmnt may be of some use |
| 15:00.56 | f1re | ty =) |
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| 15:05.43 | boser | ok, my ISP has lost my account. :( |
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| 15:07.52 | abrotman | lost your account? |
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| 15:09.22 | jelly | dropped it on the floor |
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| 15:10.22 | WildPenguin | is Debian with Lxde faster than Lubuntu? |
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| 15:10.44 | GPenguin | lets start a race! |
| 15:11.43 | a6576171 | Okay! |
| 15:12.06 | jelly | WildPenguin: try it and see? |
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| 15:13.35 | jelly | WildPenguin: now many days have you spent asking instead of installing stuff, playing around with it and seeing if it works well enough for you now |
| 15:13.39 | jelly | how* many |
| 15:14.10 | meldron | dfcnvt: thanks |
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| 15:20.51 | han-solo | is there a way to get ssl certificates for ip address :/ |
| 15:21.06 | bezaban | han-solo: issued by a public ca, no |
| 15:21.11 | han-solo | damn, self-signed certificates are misleading :} |
| 15:21.23 | han-solo | to layman users, that is :} |
| 15:21.25 | somiaj | self-signed isn't a public ca. |
| 15:21.40 | han-solo | yeah |
| 15:21.42 | chabibi | han-solo: check let's encrypt |
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| 15:22.06 | han-solo | doesn't provide one for ip |
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| 15:23.38 | bezaban | han-solo: actually, I checked up on the CA/B guidelines, it was internal domains/rfc1918 addresses I had confused with phasing out IP addresses completely. Should be still possible |
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| 15:31.49 | boser | my super-ISP (german Telekom) delete my login-username and login-password. *argggggg* *wtf!* |
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| 15:37.54 | han-solo | bezaban: could you get me a link for apache? |
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| 15:40.05 | rory | han-solo: to install it? |
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| 15:46.04 | WildPenguin | can I install Tally ERP on Debian? |
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| 15:47.56 | somiaj | WildPenguin: what is Tally ERP? |
| 15:48.05 | somiaj | WildPenguin: have you checked if it is in the debian repos or not? |
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| 15:48.54 | GPenguin | WildPenguin: see this? --> http://www.enjaycomputing.com/tally-on-linux/ |
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| 15:49.54 | dalias | is there a recommended way to install debian i386 on an x86_64 machine and get a 64-bit kernel? |
| 15:50.17 | WildPenguin | It is an Accounting Software package. |
| 15:50.30 | dalias | i'd rather use i386 userspace because for big desktop apps whose data are mostly pointers, it effectively doubles my ram |
| 15:50.46 | WildPenguin | It can't be there in Debian repositories. |
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| 15:51.05 | grawity | dalias: I'd guess do the standard multiarch thing? |
| 15:51.29 | dalias | it's been a long time since i used debian much so i'm not familiar with that |
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| 15:52.49 | smojphace | dalias: You probably want to install 64-bit, then added i386 support (dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update) |
| 15:52.58 | smojphace | s/added/add/ |
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| 15:53.28 | dalias | smojphace, i don't want any 64-bit userspace installed tho |
| 15:53.44 | dalias | if it is, some of it will inevitably be used and mapped in memory, wasting mem |
| 15:54.00 | WildPenguin | Enjay Tiguin is a different Linux distro. Is it not? |
| 15:54.15 | GPenguin | WildPenguin: its their flavour, yes |
| 15:54.24 | dalias | is it possible to install i386 then install an x86_64 kernel package instead of the 32-bit one? |
| 15:54.39 | WildPenguin | GPenguin, can't I install Tally on Debian Stable? |
| 15:54.47 | jelly | dalias: yes. |
| 15:55.03 | GPenguin | WildPenguin: right. thats the downside of proprietary software like this |
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| 15:55.41 | smojphace | dalias: I guess the inverse of what I said!? Not something I've done before though |
| 15:55.48 | WildPenguin | It's the most used and preferred Accounting Software in India, for SMEs. |
| 15:55.50 | jelly | dalias: for jessie there's still a "linux-image-amd64" package in i386 arch. For stretch you'll have to enable multiarch and amd64 as foreign architecture, to install linux-image-amd64:amd64 |
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| 15:56.30 | GPenguin | WildPenguin: what you can try is a test install on debian with the help of the software package "wine" |
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| 15:56.53 | WildPenguin | oh. Wine?? |
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| 15:57.06 | dalias | jelly, ok, but i can add amd64 as a foreign arch to an i386 install and do it, right? |
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| 15:57.10 | dalias | if so that should be fine |
| 15:57.29 | GPenguin | WildPenguin: it reconstructs the windows libraries so you can install windows software |
| 15:57.42 | jelly | dalias: yes. It's just you don't have to do it like that on jessie, yet |
| 15:57.53 | GPenguin | but that does not always work |
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| 15:58.54 | oblio | hola |
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| 15:59.24 | WildPenguin | GPenguin, ok |
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| 16:02.22 | dioz | i keep getting a DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_BAD_CONFIG in chrome |
| 16:02.26 | dioz | i'm dual stack |
| 16:02.35 | dioz | my resolv.conf is google ipv6 dns |
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| 16:03.02 | dioz | why does every other OS pull all the DNSservers from my dhcpd but debian? |
| 16:03.07 | dioz | debian only seems to get the ipv6 ones |
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| 16:05.16 | GPenguin | dioz: time to get out the patch of dhclient and see what debian does to make it different |
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| 16:06.16 | dioz | it's a intermit problem |
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| 16:28.52 | TestingIRC | is this the right place to ask question ? |
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| 16:29.46 | n4dir | !ask |
| 16:29.46 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:30.08 | n4dir | the short version: yes, as long it is related to debian. |
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| 16:30.50 | pampeho | n4dir: too bad they havent heard that; they left |
| 16:31.46 | n4dir | oh my. Well: i got quit/join messages turned of. (at least i made another step towards bot-enlightenment, not that bad :-) ) Thanks |
| 16:32.14 | TomTomTo1 | that's why god invented smart filters. |
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| 16:38.04 | centrx | !ask |
| 16:38.05 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 16:41.24 | n4dir | TomTomTo1: i assume that was for me? Thanks for the hint, but it doesn't happen often enough for me to overcome my lazyiness. Will keep it in mind |
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| 16:47.56 | teraflops | it takes the same effort enabling smartfilter than disabling all join/parts :D |
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| 16:48.54 | n4dir | well, teraflops, tell me how to do it in pidgin, and i will do it. |
| 16:49.12 | grawity | http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages#Pidgin_.28aka_Gaim.29 |
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| 16:50.25 | n4dir | grawity: address not found and i do know how to disable join_part already ... |
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| 16:54.44 | teraflops | gah I was looking for that site time ago with no luck. saved |
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| 16:58.32 | noobular | Hello |
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| 17:00.29 | noobular | God I feel stupid, I'm having a hell of a time installing Jessie on my laptop. I've reset my PC, shrunk the C:/ partition, tried using the Debian Installer on the DVD, tried to continue the install from Advanced Startup or whatever and nothing seems to be working |
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| 17:01.05 | GPenguin | noobular: what exactly is not working? where are you stuck? |
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| 17:01.44 | zykotick9 | noobular: <sidenote from left field> note, the Live images don't support UEFI systems! |
| 17:02.15 | noobular | When I try to proceed it gives me some error about g2ldr.mbr |
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| 17:02.40 | noobular | they don't... okay, that's my first problem, thanks zykotick9 |
| 17:02.55 | noobular | It used to be so much easier to install Debian before UEFI |
| 17:03.00 | zykotick9 | ummm, crytal-ball is working today :) |
| 17:03.04 | noobular | so what do I got to do |
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| 17:03.46 | zykotick9 | noobular: to install? use netinst/cd1/dvd1... |
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| 17:03.58 | teraflops | noobular: you said the Debian Installer on the DVD, thanks $DEITY zykotick9 is a mentalist |
| 17:05.04 | noobular | well if I had the netinstcd or dvd how would I proceed from there? |
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| 17:05.54 | noobular | I want to completely obliterate all traces of the Window$ from my drive |
| 17:06.38 | dalias | dont most systems let you just turn off uefi? |
| 17:07.18 | a6576171 | How do I customise GRUB? |
| 17:07.22 | dioz | in the bios they should yah |
| 17:08.19 | nkuttler | a6576171: customize what? |
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| 17:08.49 | a6576171 | nkuttler GRUB menu options without the grub-customizer |
| 17:09.05 | a6576171 | nkuttler things like order, timing, etc |
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| 17:10.39 | teraflops | a6576171: /etc/default/grub |
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| 17:11.08 | nkuttler | a6576171: see also /etc/grub.d/ , but i guess changing order will be messy. why do you want to do that? |
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| 17:11.23 | joe__ | hi annybody have some grub expertise? |
| 17:11.59 | algun | I don't suppose there's a more clever way of going from 32bit to 64bit system than reinstalling the OS? |
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| 17:12.47 | n4dir | sure. stick to 32 :-) |
| 17:12.49 | a6576171 | nkuttler I also use windows, so I'd like it to be my first deafult option, since I use it the most for my job... |
| 17:12.57 | TomTomTo1 | !crossgrade |
| 17:12.57 | dpkg | Converting an i386 installation into an amd64 installation in-place is quite difficult. It's much easier to reinstall the system with the new architecture -- ask me about <install debian>. If you've got good backups, plenty of time and are feeling lucky, you can try https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading but really... good backups... |
| 17:13.10 | a6576171 | nkuttler Right now, debian is default |
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| 17:13.33 | TomTomTo1 | algun: depends on how much coffee you have. ^^ |
| 17:13.42 | nkuttler | a6576171: there is some setting to change the default, or to save the last choice as default |
| 17:13.51 | n4dir | a6576171: you can make windows default in the mentioned file /etc/default/grub |
| 17:13.59 | noobular | okay I'm gonna try now |
| 17:14.15 | n4dir | probably "update-grub" is needed after editing it |
| 17:14.20 | joe__ | grub-install gives me these /proc/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory x4 error and device node not found x12 error |
| 17:14.38 | nkuttler | joe__: what's the exact command you use? |
| 17:14.49 | joe__ | how do i fix this? |
| 17:14.52 | a6576171 | nkuttler I'll try /etc/default/grub, be back in case I get to realise I don't know what I'm doing lol |
| 17:15.06 | joe__ | sudo grub-install /dev/sdb |
| 17:15.18 | TomTomTo1 | is /boot/ mounted? |
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| 17:15.50 | joe__ | sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/boot yes |
| 17:16.04 | algun | TomTomTo1: Is there a wiki? |
| 17:16.21 | jelly | joe__: does "/proc/devices" exist? |
| 17:16.23 | a6576171 | nkuttler Are you familiar with the workings of chroot? Got another machine that lost its bootloader as well... Found a lot of tutorials, but only the ones with prefab commands, and I don't understand them, and I wish I did |
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| 17:17.11 | TomTomTo1 | algun: the !crossgrade factoid above has a wiki link. |
| 17:17.22 | nkuttler | a6576171: in a chroot you'll want to mount proc, sysfs and dev |
| 17:18.11 | nkuttler | a6576171: fwiw, probably easiest to get some rescue image, boot into debian, and install grub from there |
| 17:18.15 | algun | !crossgrade |
| 17:18.15 | dpkg | Converting an i386 installation into an amd64 installation in-place is quite difficult. It's much easier to reinstall the system with the new architecture -- ask me about <install debian>. If you've got good backups, plenty of time and are feeling lucky, you can try https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading but really... good backups... |
| 17:18.54 | algun | TomTomTo1: alright, point taken I guess... |
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| 17:19.29 | a6576171 | nkuttler makes sense |
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| 17:21.46 | joe__ | i unmounted again http://pastebin.com/AYBHd8QJ |
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| 17:23.35 | joe__ | i think the no suid noexec means they dont exits i got rid of the flexnet error 2 |
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| 17:27.11 | joe__ | jelly? i copied this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajs9rO5upZA |
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| 17:27.30 | jelly | that doesn't answer my question |
| 17:27.58 | jelly | joe__: does /proc/devices exist? ls -ld /proc/devices |
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| 17:28.33 | jelly | because apparently grub-install uses it to determine block devices ("disks") existence |
| 17:29.04 | joe__ | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 9 18:28 /proc/devices |
| 17:29.44 | jelly | joe__: good, so it does exist. Can you pastebin complete command line and output of that grub-install attempt |
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| 17:31.50 | joe__ | no it says You are trying to send an empty document, exiting. qt the end |
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| 17:32.31 | jelly | what says that? |
| 17:32.49 | joe__ | Installing for i386-pc platform. |
| 17:32.49 | joe__ | device node not found |
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| 17:36.38 | smeert | hey |
| 17:36.43 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 17:36.44 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.15-2); stretch: 4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.11-1); jessie-backports: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.8.11-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-1) |
| 17:36.50 | smeert | when logging in, i see the last login. is it system wide or per user? |
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| 17:37.16 | jelly | smeert: logging in how? console? X? ssh? |
| 17:37.26 | smeert | ssh |
| 17:37.27 | Deathrattle | for the current user that has logged in |
| 17:37.41 | joe__ | http://paste.debian.net/907987/ |
| 17:37.54 | smeert | weird |
| 17:37.58 | joe__ | im still learning |
| 17:38.02 | jelly | smeert: the functionality shows only that user's info |
| 17:38.08 | smeert | it claims someone has logged in on my account from weird location |
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| 17:38.36 | jelly | smeert: you can also use the "last" command, eg. "last -20" |
| 17:38.49 | jelly | smeert: or "last -20 username" |
| 17:38.53 | smeert | ah hmm |
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| 17:42.02 | jelly | joe__: there's something weird going on there. Open a root shell with "sudo -i", then try to (cmd="grub-install /dev/sdb"; echo "$cmd"; eval $cmd) 2>&1 | pastebinit |
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| 17:44.10 | jelly | joe__: also pastebin the output of "lsblk" |
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| 17:46.22 | joe__ | (cmd="grub-install /dev/sdb"; echo "$cmd"; eval $cmd) 2>&1 | pastebinit does nothing |
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| 17:47.48 | joe__ | no errors this ti;e |
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| 17:49.00 | joe__ | http://pastebin.com/2iad4jaZ |
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| 17:51.59 | joe__ | was this 1 command ?(cmd="grub-install /dev/sdb"; echo "$cmd"; eval $cmd) 2>&1 | pastebinit |
| 17:52.42 | TomTomTo1 | yes |
| 17:53.01 | n4dir | ( ... ) is a subshell with three commands in it, divided by a semicolon. 2>&1 redirects standard-error to std-input (the terminal) and |
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| 17:53.32 | n4dir | | pastebinit ; pipes the whole shebang to pastebinit, which will upload it to a paste-site. |
| 17:53.35 | n4dir | clear as mutt? |
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| 17:53.51 | joe__ | http://pastebin.com/qNpKt0BX |
| 17:54.24 | n4dir | my fault: i read: whats this .... sorry |
| 17:55.28 | TomTomTo1 | joe__: so.... what's it doing now? |
| 17:56.44 | joe__ | nothing its back at root@parrot:~# |
| 17:56.50 | jelly | joe__: this output in http://pastebin.com/qNpKt0BX looks fine |
| 17:57.19 | joe__ | should i try to reboot? |
| 17:57.37 | jelly | joe__: and make sure your bios picks the right disk to boot from, yes |
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| 17:58.23 | joe__ | ill try both if first 1 dont work |
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| 18:04.03 | joe__ | holly dingdongs it worked i booted from ntfs drive tho |
| 18:05.04 | joe__ | didnt try that when i fixed the flexnet error |
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| 18:05.35 | joe__ | thx jelly for ur time |
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| 18:10.06 | joe__ | cu laters and thx verry much |
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| 18:38.48 | R0b0t1 | Hello, I don't mean to make my question too specific, but: Is it possible to mount a Windows-hosted Samba share using IPv6? |
| 18:38.52 | WildPenguin | how is debian different from fedora? |
| 18:39.34 | R0b0t1 | I'm almost positive I have all the options correct, but mount.cifs gives me error 22: invalid argument. IIRC this exact same thing occurred when I tried with Gentoo's smb-utils. |
| 18:39.46 | R0b0t1 | Some searching seemed to imply what I want to do is impossible, but maybe someone knows better. |
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| 18:40.23 | R0b0t1 | WildPenguin: Fedora uses the `yum` package manager (extension: .rpm) and has slightly different project priorities. |
| 18:40.53 | WildPenguin | ok |
| 18:41.31 | R0b0t1 | WildPenguin: The only given constant between two linux distributions is that they use the linux kernel. If you want to know how that effects you as a user you might want to find screenshots. |
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| 18:41.36 | WildPenguin | what advantage does Debian have over Fedora as a distro? |
| 18:41.39 | R0b0t1 | (or try using it for a while) |
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| 18:41.50 | missmbob | !why debian |
| 18:41.51 | dpkg | Debian strives to maintain your freedom whilst also paying close attention to the technical aspects of making a great OS. Debian is stable, upgradable and well tested. See also http://www.debian.org/intro/free http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ http://www.aboutdebian.com/ . As an added bonus, you get to ask questions in #debian. |
| 18:42.04 | WildPenguin | ok. |
| 18:42.22 | greycat | screen shots don't really tell you anything except "which DE does this one guy use and how much time does he spend customizing it" |
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| 18:42.48 | greycat | Debian doesn't have just one DE. It has *all* of them. You can pick whatever you want, including "none of them". |
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| 18:43.15 | R0b0t1 | greycat: Well, all distros effectively say what dpkg just did and I wasn't going to assume he was interested in the minutiae of the project's management :) |
| 18:43.21 | R0b0t1 | WildPenguin: iirc Fedora uses selinux by default |
| 18:43.36 | WildPenguin | ok |
| 18:44.09 | greycat | Debian does very little "by default". It's extremely flexible. You install what you want, and don't install what you don't want. |
| 18:44.11 | WildPenguin | is Debian better for beginners than Fedora? I am a Linux novice. |
| 18:45.15 | R0b0t1 | I don't mean to speak ill of fedora, but in my experience I have had less problems with software in the Debian repositories. At the same time, there is a user segment of the Debian community which researches and implements utility one would typically only find Gentoo or Arch users using (e.g. new hardware features of motherboards, binary games, virtualization). |
| 18:45.56 | WildPenguin | ok. I'll stick to Debian, then. |
| 18:46.00 | greycat | That said, Debian's long release cycle means that often, the stable release can't handle bleeding edge hardware. |
| 18:46.05 | smeert | so, command date prints a time two hours too late |
| 18:46.16 | greycat | smeert: does it print the correct time zone? |
| 18:46.17 | smeert | is this a job for root, or can i change my date? |
| 18:46.28 | smeert | no, its UTC missing the +2 |
| 18:46.48 | greycat | What does it show, exactly? |
| 18:46.54 | smeert | Mon Jan 9 18:30:55 UTC 2017 |
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| 18:47.21 | WildPenguin | thanks guys, that much is enough for now. As a beginner, I was just exploring the various distros to find a suitable one for my needs. |
| 18:47.29 | greycat | So you're about 15 minutes slow. THAT part will take root to fix. For showing the time zone you want, you can simply export the TZ variable. |
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| 18:48.03 | R0b0t1 | greycat: When I first was introduced to Linux Debian's adoption of newer features was markedly slower than other distributions. It still is, but it's far better than it has been, and it's likely one can find users who have created patches for Debian whereas in the past this was not the case. |
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| 18:48.36 | greycat | $ TZ=Europe/Amsterdam date |
| 18:48.36 | greycat | Mon Jan 9 19:48:29 CET 2017 |
| 18:48.40 | R0b0t1 | I only mention something because 1) this means Debian got better at something, and 2) there's a few things like this (another one is virtual machines always run slowly) that stick around. |
| 18:48.42 | greycat | (For example.) |
| 18:48.56 | smeert | greycat: oh actually that was not new |
| 18:49.00 | R0b0t1 | WildPenguin: You might also look at Ubuntu, but (again) personally it has gotten kind of creepy. |
| 18:49.01 | smeert | Mon Jan 9 18:48:58 UTC 2017 |
| 18:49.06 | smeert | but its 20:48 |
| 18:49.13 | greycat | What time zone are you in? |
| 18:49.38 | smeert | ermm, europe/helsinki |
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| 18:49.54 | greycat | export TZ=Europe/Helsinki |
| 18:50.20 | smeert | but is it systemwide or per user? |
| 18:50.29 | smeert | do i need to be root? |
| 18:50.39 | greycat | The TZ variable is per process. You'll want to arrange for it to be set during your login, which will depend on how you log in. |
| 18:50.49 | smeert | ssh only |
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| 18:50.58 | greycat | Oh, then it's easy. Just put that in ~/.bash_profile |
| 18:51.09 | WildPenguin | why Ubuntu has gotten creepy? |
| 18:51.46 | smeert | another question |
| 18:51.57 | smeert | why does it take about a minute to login after i input my password? |
| 18:52.05 | smeert | or well, 20 seconds |
| 18:52.19 | somiaj | WildPenguin: maybe ask #ubuntu, but that is off-topic here. |
| 18:52.28 | smeert | greycat: thanks for the TZ |
| 18:52.29 | smeert | helped me out |
| 18:53.11 | WildPenguin | ok |
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| 19:08.37 | m3k | A couple of days the fn special key combinations stopped working which I need mostly for setting the screen's brightness. Any idea what could be the reason? What I read on the internet didn't help. tpb is installed. |
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| 19:10.53 | zykotick9 | notes xev doesn't register anything when he presses his working Fn key... |
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| 19:12.44 | m3k | zymurgy: on my system xev reacts when I just press the fn key |
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| 19:13.24 | raynold | ahh it's a wonderful day |
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| 19:14.52 | m3k | zykotick9: on my system xev reacts when I just press the fn key |
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| 19:15.11 | zykotick9 | m3k: i wouldn't "think" the Fn on most keyboards is a regular key... my point was that although my OS doesn't register my Fn, it still works for adjusting brightness/etc... my guess is hardware perhaps? best of luck regardless. |
| 19:15.53 | m3k | zykotick9: but it worked a couple of days ago, don't think it's hardware |
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| 19:18.17 | somiaj | yea different machines do it differently, some are actually hardware controls, others send keycodes to the os. |
| 19:19.33 | m3k | if you have any idea what might be the reason why it doesn't work I would be very thankful |
| 19:19.40 | m3k | not being able to set up brightness is horrible! |
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| 19:21.23 | somiaj | usually there is a keycode that is sent and it could be the software isn't reacting correctly when it sees the keycode |
| 19:21.28 | jhutchins | zykotick9: Usually the key acts as a modifier, changing the scancode of other keys. The shift key usually doesn't generate a code by itself either. |
| 19:21.42 | somiaj | if xev isn't seeing it, that just may mean your DE/WM is intercepting the keycode, but whatever it is trying to do fails. |
| 19:21.42 | jhutchins | m3k: Did you update? |
| 19:21.49 | m3k | jhutchins: no |
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| 19:22.15 | jhutchins | m3k: No updates at all between when it last worked and when it didn't? |
| 19:22.37 | m3k | jhutchins: nope, it was from one day to the next with no update in between |
| 19:22.42 | m3k | jhutchins: just a reboot |
| 19:23.13 | somiaj | what kernel did you use? Maybe a kernel updated in the past and the reboot triggered a new kernel (which could affect backlights) |
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| 19:23.52 | disi | what does it mean for a file to have the sticky bit set? |
| 19:23.59 | m3k | somiaj: meanwhile I have accidentally upgraded from jessie to stretch, but it was before that it stopped working |
| 19:24.13 | somiaj | disi: usually directories have the sticky bit set, not files, is this a file or a directory? |
| 19:25.05 | jhutchins | m3k: I think the next thing I'd try is checkng to use xev to see if it's actually generating a different code when you use Fn with the brightness keys. |
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| 19:25.46 | somiaj | but if you don't see a keycode, it could just be your DE is intercepting the keycode. |
| 19:26.03 | somiaj | sometimes you need to run xev in an xsession by iteslf (no de) to double check |
| 19:26.43 | disi | somiaj: definitely a file... with a directory, it basically means you have permission to mess only with your own stuff within that directory, right? |
| 19:27.09 | somiaj | disi: kinda, but depends on what you mean by 'mess with your own stuff'. |
| 19:27.39 | disi | somiaj: well, im mostly curious whether sticky bit on a file has any significance |
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| 19:27.52 | m3k | jhutchins: yes, it generates a different keycode when a combination is pressed |
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| 19:27.58 | jhutchins | m3k: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/extra_keyboard_keys#In_Xorg <- various methods of checcking scancodes. |
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| 19:28.19 | somiaj | disi: wikipedia says it dose in Solaris, unsure about linux though. "Solaris (as of Solaris 2.5) defines special behavior when the sticky bit is set on non-executable files: those files, when accessed, will not be cached by the kernel. This is usually set on swap files to prevent access on the file from flushing more important data from the system cache." |
| 19:28.43 | somiaj | disi: unsure what linux does for sticky bit and files (Are you sure it is a sticky bit and not the set uid bit? |
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| 19:29.05 | jhutchins | m3k: So thaty argues that whatever was listening for that keycode doesn't see it any more. |
| 19:29.07 | somiaj | disi: ahh found this for linux, "the Linux kernel ignores the sticky bit on files" |
| 19:29.21 | somiaj | disi: man chmod for info on that |
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| 19:29.58 | m3k | ah, I see that the brightness changing combinations don't generate any keycode at all |
| 19:30.10 | disi | somiaj: im not sure about that, it manifests as a capital T and can be identified as `mode & 512`... i think that's sticky bit, right? |
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| 19:30.36 | sim590 | I'm starting to get a concerning and frequent number of kernel panics on my thinkpad t460s. Anyone else? |
| 19:30.38 | somiaj | disi: from man chmod, "For regular files on some older systems, the bit saves the program's text image on the swap device so it will load more quickly when run; this is called the sticky bit." |
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| 19:31.59 | disi | I see that, cant find "the linux kernel ignores" bit tho |
| 19:32.06 | somiaj | sim590: if you think you have hit a bug check the BTS for debian and the linux kernel. |
| 19:32.11 | m3k | jhutchins, somiaj; how do I make the combinations generating a keycode? |
| 19:32.12 | somiaj | disi: yea wikipedia lied to me. |
| 19:32.23 | disi | :p |
| 19:32.31 | somiaj | m3k: dependson the hardware, but fn + key should genrate the keycode requested. |
| 19:32.37 | m3k | wikipedia is always right! |
| 19:32.54 | somiaj | disi: though 'some older systems' is close to 'ignores it' |
| 19:33.08 | m3k | somiaj: it's a thinkpad x201 |
| 19:33.12 | somiaj | disi: i.e. it isn't clear weither it just isn't used anymore, or only some older systems has the capability. |
| 19:33.32 | m3k | somiaj: the laptop is from about 2010 |
| 19:33.37 | disi | very true (especially since those older systems probably wont work with hadoop which is what im working with atm) |
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| 19:40.10 | m3k | if someone has an idea of how to make the fn key combinations generating a keycode, it would be nice to know! |
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| 19:43.54 | somiaj | m3k: run xorg with only an xterm (don't run it in a DE, our DE is probably intercepting the keycodes) |
| 19:44.34 | m3k | somiaj: it doesn't work in pure openbox session |
| 19:45.05 | somiaj | then it isn't generating keycodes. Could be hardware. |
| 19:45.15 | somiaj | maybe check bios/firmware settings. |
| 19:45.17 | m3k | somiaj: but it worked in the past :-) |
| 19:45.25 | somiaj | well hardware can sometimes just fail. |
| 19:45.30 | m3k | somiaj: bios settings are fine and they didn't change |
| 19:45.45 | somiaj | although since you don't know what keycodes were generated in the past hard to tell if that is the problem. |
| 19:46.03 | somiaj | also openbox may have keybindings for those keycodes (They are common), try it with NO wm, just an xterm. |
| 19:46.20 | somiaj | also make sure there isn't some other keybinding program running that could be intercepting the events. |
| 19:46.20 | m3k | somiaj: how do I do that? |
| 19:46.36 | somiaj | add exec /usr/bin/xterm to .xsession and run startx. |
| 19:46.51 | somiaj | i.e. just run xterm instead of the command to start your wm/de |
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| 19:47.10 | m3k | somiaj: can I do it while xfce is running in another VT? |
| 19:47.48 | somiaj | provided it is it's own xession I think it should, I don't know if a program running on a differeht $DISPLAY would intercept those keycodes. On my del the keycodes are produced just fine. |
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| 19:48.11 | m3k | somiaj: can I do it while xfce is running in another VT? |
| 19:49.02 | m3k | somiaj: shouldn't intercept it |
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| 19:49.52 | awal1 | ,v pulseaudio-equalizer |
| 19:49.53 | judd | Package: pulseaudio-equalizer on amd64 -- sid: 9.0-5; stretch: 9.0-5; experimental: 9.99.1-1 |
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| 19:50.52 | somiaj | m3k: yea worked for me, startx -- :2 |
| 19:50.53 | m3k | somiaj: xinit: Cannot connect to X server: Connection refused |
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| 19:51.49 | somiaj | I put 'exec /usr/bin/xterm' and then ran 'startx -- :2' |
| 19:51.57 | somiaj | if you have something on display :2, use a different display |
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| 19:53.09 | m3k | somiaj: same |
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| 19:55.01 | awal1 | m3k: what are you trying to start? |
| 19:55.24 | m3k | awal1: an X session running xterm |
| 19:55.27 | awal1 | have xfce in say tty1 and start xterm or openbox in say tty2? |
| 19:55.49 | m3k | awal1: yes, but xfce is running on tty7 |
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| 19:56.35 | awal1 | m3k: check via xinit |
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| 19:57.00 | awal1 | create a .xinitrc file in your home and insert exec xterm |
| 19:57.18 | awal1 | then go to your ttywhatever and run startx |
| 19:57.35 | awal1 | that should work |
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| 19:57.43 | greycat | You should also be able to do something like "startx -- xterm" but I haven't tried it... |
| 19:57.43 | somiaj | or do what I suggested already, also .xsession is preferable over .xinit in debian. |
| 19:57.57 | awal1 | or exec openbox then startx |
| 19:58.17 | awal1 | exec openbox or openbox-session |
| 19:59.03 | m3k | I am wondering that X says that it were a build of Linux kernel 3.16.x. Why isn't it a stretch kernel? |
| 19:59.34 | somiaj | m3k: have you not installed a stretch kernel? |
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| 19:59.52 | m3k | somiaj: of course, the whole system is stretch |
| 19:59.52 | somiaj | if you didn't have the kernel meta package installed it won't autmoatically upgrade the kernel. |
| 19:59.52 | greycat | you're ... in the wrong IRC network? |
| 20:00.00 | m3k | 4.8.0-2-amd64 |
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| 20:00.02 | somiaj | m3k: dpkg -l | grep linux-images (what kernels do you have installed?) |
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| 20:00.50 | somiaj | m3k: oh nevermind, this is the xorg log, umm unsure why that is, are you sure you are completely upgraded? Since I'm not home I cna't check that my stretch xorg says the same thing. It could be a debian stable system is building all the packages inside chroots. |
| 20:00.59 | m3k | somiaj: linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 linux-image-4.8.0-2-amd64linux-image-amd64 |
| 20:01.30 | m3k | somiaj: I have the old kernel still installed |
| 20:01.33 | somiaj | that |
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| 20:01.34 | m3k | somiaj: but I am running the new one |
| 20:01.52 | somiaj | that's fine, but uname -a, should be running on the correct kernel. Again it could just be an artificat left over from the build machine |
| 20:02.19 | m3k | Linux vishnu 4.8.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.8.11-1 (2016-12-02) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 20:02.48 | awal1 | m3k: startx works with xinitrc; graphical display manager (gdm3, lightdm, wdm ...) look for .xsession |
| 20:03.01 | greycat | Debian's startx also uses .xsession |
| 20:03.03 | awal1 | well, that's what I know :P |
| 20:03.16 | somiaj | !xsession |
| 20:03.16 | dpkg | [xsession] ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession' |
| 20:03.49 | greycat | I don't think that's the "best" practice. |
| 20:04.06 | awal1 | so I wonder why if I dont have a xinitrc file and I create .xsessionrc and insert exec openbox, startx fails |
| 20:04.16 | greycat | .xsessionrc is NOT the same |
| 20:04.45 | somiaj | where did you hear us say .xsessionrc? Reason .xsession is prefered in Debian is because it is read by both startx and display managers. .xinit is not read by display managers. |
| 20:04.57 | greycat | https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession |
| 20:04.59 | awal1 | ok, ok; confused so, I should create a file called just .xsession |
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| 20:05.46 | somiaj | awal1: it is prefered, but .xinitrc works if all you use is startx. But if you want display managers to source that file too, well then use .xsession. |
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| 20:07.22 | awal1 | somiaj: I just use xinitrc and startx in fact, since if I use x DM I just choose whatever session within that DM, that's why I was wrong about xsession |
| 20:08.14 | greycat | ~/.xsession should launch your preferred window manager or desktop environment |
| 20:08.33 | m3k | can someone please check whether it is a good sign if on a stretch system X (startx) outputs "Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64"? |
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| 20:08.47 | greycat | ~/.xsessionrc may be used to set environment variables like PATH in a way that works regardless of which DM you use to login |
| 20:09.04 | greycat | !tell m3k about debian-next |
| 20:09.12 | m3k | greycat: I know, thanks |
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| 20:12.00 | jhutchins | m3k: I thought you said the key combination was generating a keycode, and it was different from the code generated by the key without Fn? |
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| 20:12.29 | m3k | jhutchins: no, it was wrong, sorry |
| 20:12.43 | jhutchins | m3k: That link I sent you had pretty much all of the information you'd need to generate and link a code. |
| 20:12.47 | m3k | jhutchins: it only generates a keycode with no fn pressed |
| 20:12.59 | jhutchins | m3k: Ah, so it is different at least. |
| 20:13.33 | jhutchins | m3k: That argues that something is intercepting it. Possiby hardware, but try some of those other tools to see if you get anything without X. |
| 20:14.53 | awal1 | well, m3k, me I run openbox via xinitrc/startx (exec openbox-session); if I want to launch another x session on another tty or just a specific app then I use startx /usr/bin/whatever. also I use wdm for startx xfce, an in another tty i use xinitrc/startx. with that I'm done; that's my way bcuz I always switch between a few installed WM's when bored :P |
| 20:14.57 | blotek | I've always hated KDE but this 5.8 version is truly perfect desktop... |
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| 20:16.50 | m3k | jhutchins: showkey --scancodes intercepts codes |
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| 20:17.17 | m3k | jhutchins: I mean it recognizes them, but strangely sometimes different codes when the same combination is pressed |
| 20:18.07 | jhutchins | m3k: That's pretty odd. |
| 20:18.18 | m3k | jhutchins: you say it |
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| 20:22.08 | jhutchins | m3k: Since you can, you could boot to the old kernel and see if it behaves differently. |
| 20:23.35 | m3k | jhutchins: I might try after my conversation with towo in #debian-next |
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| 20:24.22 | A|an | A few years ago there was a flaw with OpenSSH that wasn't noticed for quite some time...about that time a danish computer researcher did a spoof video in which he presented himself as providing an update report to the NSA... |
| 20:24.52 | A|an | I don't remember his name; he went by a three-letter initialiazion of his name |
| 20:25.06 | A|an | does anyone know who I'm referring to? |
| 20:25.18 | A|an | the video was on youtube |
| 20:25.21 | Spiffy | phk ? |
| 20:25.25 | A|an | yes! |
| 20:25.31 | A|an | thanks |
| 20:25.47 | Spiffy | Poul-Henning Kamp |
| 20:26.15 | A|an | NSA operation ORCHESTRA: Annual Status Report - YouTube |
| 20:26.22 | A|an | thanks a lot |
| 20:28.30 | jhutchins | Anybody else getting "Consultation" spam from Network Solutions? I moved to cheaper registries years ago, but Arthur's still on NS. |
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| 20:29.04 | jhutchins | Oops, meant that for a different window. |
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| 20:35.37 | boser | re |
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| 20:42.10 | peanatsu | hi. I am trying to install the package "nvidia-legacy-304xx-opencl-icd" but for some reason the installer tells me that my card is not supported and I need the legacy driver. But it already *is* the legacy driver. |
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| 20:44.23 | bit1 | Hello. Does "autopackage" work?, http://autopackage.org/ web is chinesse. |
| 20:44.28 | towo` | there is more than one legacy driver |
| 20:44.50 | towo` | abd since you do not tell, which card you have ... |
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| 20:46.48 | peanatsu | well, it is the correct legacy driver I checked. (card is Geforce 9500 GT) but I think the problem might be "to be installed" packages of wrong nvidia driver versions. now I just need to understand how I can tell aptitude to get rid of all "pi" packages.. |
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| 20:47.44 | towo` | peanatsu, no, legacy-340xx would be the right driver |
| 20:49.06 | peanatsu | I originally tried installing the wrong version, then installation got aborted because of nvidia-legacy-check, but aptitude still has those packages marked as "to be installed", ie prefixed with "pi" |
| 20:49.25 | peanatsu | towo`: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Version_304.131_.28legacy_GPUs.29 says here "geforce 9500 gt" is supported, hm |
| 20:49.28 | towo` | then purge them |
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| 20:50.05 | towo` | peanatsu, again, geforce 8xxx and 9xxx are supported by 340.xx driver series |
| 20:50.21 | towo` | doesnt matter, what the debian wiki is saying |
| 20:50.37 | towo` | important is, what's written by nvidia |
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| 20:51.16 | vkolchev | hi all, why is debian.org down? |
| 20:51.27 | peanatsu | thanks. what is the most elegant way (with aptitude) to purge everything marked "pi", completely remove legacy304 drivers and install legacy340 drivers? |
| 20:51.27 | apt | peanatsu: no problem |
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| 20:51.51 | blotek | vkolchev, are you on drugs or your dns server is ?> |
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| 20:52.13 | Chicuei | debian.org it's ok |
| 20:52.17 | towo` | peanatsu, apt purge $(dpkg -l | awk'/nvidia/{ print $2 }') |
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| 20:52.51 | towo` | peanatsu, and legacy-340xx only exists in backports and stretch |
| 20:53.09 | towo` | peanatsu, jessie has 340.xx as nvidia-driver, without legacy |
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| 20:53.26 | blotek | vkolchev, http://isup.me/debian.org |
| 20:53.29 | peanatsu | I have stretch |
| 20:53.39 | vkolchev | blotek: I am not, every other website works great for me |
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| 20:53.42 | peanatsu | sid/stretch says /etc/debian_version |
| 20:54.11 | vkolchev | blotek: hmm, very strange |
| 20:54.15 | blotek | vkolchev, must be your dns server then - check nslookup ;) |
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| 20:56.42 | donofrio | anyone here run debian in business corp setting as a desktop and if so does your business run AirWatch? |
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| 20:57.45 | peanatsu | thx for the help towo`. after purging I can just install the 340 drivers and everything should be honkey dorey? |
| 20:58.13 | towo` | peanatsu, normaly yes |
| 20:58.25 | blotek | donofrio, no offence there but why would you like to run debian in office desktops ? |
| 20:58.30 | towo` | if not, you have to provide relevant logfiles |
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| 20:59.08 | greycat | I don't know what AirWatch is, or how it relates to anything else. |
| 20:59.16 | jhutchins | blotek: Why would you NOT run Debian as an office desktop? |
| 20:59.16 | greycat | But I installed Debian on a corporate PC here. |
| 20:59.24 | Danielss89 | hi. I want to install Mailhog, and i'm looking at their download page: https://github.com/mailhog/MailHog/releases/v0.2.1 |
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| 20:59.30 | Danielss89 | i see MailHog_linux_amd64 |
| 20:59.45 | Danielss89 | and would think that is what i need to install, but dpkg -i says it's not a debian package |
| 20:59.51 | Danielss89 | is there another way of installing? |
| 20:59.54 | blotek | jhutchins, well cuz people I work with got no Linux experience at all so I wouldn't like to support them ;) |
| 21:00.19 | blotek | but for a fact they've got no Windows experience either xD |
| 21:01.17 | jhutchins | Easier to support no linux experience than no windows experience. |
| 21:01.50 | blotek | jhutchins, for whatever reason people don't want to use Open/Libre Office for example |
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| 21:01.56 | blotek | how would you approach that problem ? |
| 21:01.58 | jhutchins | My wife easily switches between the two, and she's a Biochemist. |
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| 21:02.49 | blotek | jhutchins, biochemists are smart people in general so I'm preety sure she can do that;) |
| 21:02.50 | jhutchins | I would explain that that's what's available. |
| 21:02.54 | donofrio | ait-watch.com is the vmware site - and who wouldn't want to run debian on there daily driver at work?? |
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| 21:03.12 | donofrio | air-watch.com I meant |
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| 21:03.17 | donofrio | #facepalm on me |
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| 21:03.45 | jhutchins | blotek: A friend who is an elementary school janitor and lunch lady is running Debian and has no trouble with it. (It's pretty old too, probably lenny.) |
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| 21:03.47 | blotek | I don't use Vmware;) |
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| 21:04.20 | blotek | and yes I maintain quite a lot of Hypervisors before you even ask |
| 21:04.25 | donofrio | I don't have a choice its a corp policy to lock the network down and you can only get access with an MDM Agent |
| 21:04.36 | missmbob | because people with shitty jobs are dumb |
| 21:04.38 | jhutchins | blotek: Entire governments in Europe have switched to linux. There's always wine/crossover. |
| 21:05.26 | blotek | jhutchins, I like Linux aswell mate but it's not true about these governments really ;) |
| 21:06.17 | blotek | as far as I know it's local authorities and some police departments in France, Germany, Poland etc. |
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| 21:06.37 | blotek | but not "entire governments" ;) |
| 21:06.38 | jhutchins | blotek: Little places like Munich. |
| 21:06.53 | jhutchins | blotek: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_adopters |
| 21:07.08 | evotopid | Well these little places can have influence on other places so it definitely matters. |
| 21:07.09 | blotek | jhutchins, ye I mean Munich isn't small but if you read further |
| 21:07.15 | donofrio | (linux would own the desktop's if mindset changed - but that is just my 2 cents) |
| 21:07.20 | blotek | you would figure out they've started switching back to Windows |
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| 21:07.38 | jhutchins | blotek: No, they haven't. |
| 21:07.47 | blotek | because of human's not able to switch and costs for maintenance are actually higher than on Windows |
| 21:07.52 | blotek | I've read article about it |
| 21:08.09 | evotopid | donofrio: No the real problem is that commercial products are often only developed for Windows/macOS and these coorps make all kinds of advertising for their products. |
| 21:08.20 | jhutchins | I bought a laptop for under $200. To get all the software I needed under Windows would have been way over $250 more. I installed Debian. |
| 21:08.20 | blotek | jhutchins, http://www.zdnet.com/article/after-a-10-year-linux-migration-munich-considers-switching-back-to-windows-and-office/ |
| 21:08.26 | donofrio | evotopid, agreed |
| 21:08.42 | frikinz | and then there's corruption http://www.april.org/en/open-bar-microsoft-french-ministry-defence-ministry-answers-our-request-release-administrative-docum up to defence department |
| 21:09.02 | jhutchins | blotek: Note that they successfully switched, and were considering switching back. |
| 21:09.09 | blotek | jhutchins, I use Linux everywhere I can and I have access to free licenses for Microsoft software;) but let's not talk about us but facts here;) |
| 21:09.21 | donofrio | so everyone saying they want windows go ahead and disconnect from this channel anytime - lol |
| 21:09.23 | phogg | Linux usage only grows. As long as it's not banned it will continue to grow. |
| 21:09.26 | evotopid | blotek: It doesn't say maintenance is expensive, they say: âLinux is very expensiveâ because of the need for custom programming |
| 21:09.44 | evotopid | Basically they probably have tons of software that only works on Windows |
| 21:09.48 | blotek | jhutchins, I said they've started to switch back (maybe experimental) cant be bothered to search for same article again ;) |
| 21:10.19 | blotek | evotopid, not really it was just human factor of not liking apache office instead of microcrap office as far as I remember |
| 21:10.28 | missmbob | !ot |
| 21:10.28 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 21:11.11 | blotek | missmbob, what makes this offtopic ? |
| 21:11.17 | jhutchins | blotek: Chek out the link I sent you. |
| 21:11.43 | jhutchins | blotek: We're not discussing Debian support, I agree with missmbob. |
| 21:11.49 | blotek | jhutchins, didn't get any |
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| 21:12.09 | blotek | unless u mean wiki but I've read that before;) |
| 21:12.16 | jhutchins | blotek: Wikipedia link at :06. |
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| 21:13.34 | peanatsu | HM. trying to install "nvidia-legacy-340xx-opencl-icd" again gives me "this card is not supported... need legacy blah". (note that I now have 340 drivers installed) |
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| 21:14.02 | peanatsu | also it looks like that legacy-340-opencl package has "nvidia-kernel-dkms" as a dependency. |
| 21:14.12 | peanatsu | should I maybe just ignore the legacy warning? :T |
| 21:14.47 | jhutchins | peanatsu: Which release are you on, what kernel, and what chipset? |
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| 21:15.22 | peanatsu | what commands will give you the required infos? |
| 21:15.42 | greycat | cat /etc/debian_version; uname -a; lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 21:15.44 | blotek | "uname -r" |
| 21:15.49 | peanatsu | debian version is stretch/sid, kernel 4.8.0-2-amd64 |
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| 21:15.55 | donofrio | phogg, without an Airwatch client it's going to feel like they have been banned |
| 21:16.04 | peanatsu | [GeForce 9500 GT] [10de:0640] (rev a1) |
| 21:16.40 | blotek | peanatsu, what's the output of nvidia-detect:? |
| 21:17.06 | blotek | if you can install it ofc;) |
| 21:17.18 | jhutchins | ,pciid 10de:0640 |
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| 21:17.19 | judd | [10de:0640] is 'G96 [GeForce 9500 GT]' from 'NVIDIA Corporation' with kernel modules 'nouveau', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10de:0640 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
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| 21:18.05 | peanatsu | it tells me to install the 340-driver series. which I have. |
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| 21:18.18 | peanatsu | @blotek |
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| 21:18.51 | blotek | peanatsu, ok sorry I might have missed it then - what's the reason to downgrade it? or it doesn't work right with 340? |
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| 21:19.10 | towo` | nvidia-legacy-340xx-opencl-icd has no depend to nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 21:19.33 | towo` | and btw, why you want to install opnly this package? you need the driver too |
| 21:20.13 | peanatsu | well, I didnt see a driver with 340 legacy in the name, so I was wary. |
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| 21:20.23 | towo` | boah |
| 21:20.34 | towo` | nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver |
| 21:20.48 | peanatsu | I have that installed. |
| 21:20.52 | towo` | and if you don't see it, you haven't non-free enabled in your sources |
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| 21:21.27 | towo` | then post the output of apt install nvidia-legacy-340xx-opencl-icd |
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| 21:22.30 | peanatsu | http://pastebin.com/dfBEgkeZ |
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| 21:25.49 | peanatsu | I assume the {a} after the names means it was pulled in as a dependency (thats also the only way I can account for nvidia-kernel-dkms being there) |
| 21:26.09 | towo` | peanatsu, 1st, use apt, 2nd use apt install nvidia-legacy-340xx-opencl-icd --no-install-recommends |
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| 21:27.06 | blotek | omg new discovery :D |
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| 21:27.37 | blotek | you guys will laugh but I didn't know you can type "apt install" instead of "apt-get" since when did they've changed it lol ? |
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| 21:29.15 | digdilem | i didn#t know that... |
| 21:30.49 | missmbob | apt has been around for a very long time. with stretch it has seen a lot of new development finally |
| 21:30.56 | peanatsu | cool that worked. so the problem was that a legacy package *recommended* another package which is incompatible with the legacy package? |
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| 21:32.00 | towo` | peanatsu, so it is and you should fill a bug for that problem |
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| 21:32.59 | sim590 | why does journalctl -b <offset> doesn't work on debian. How can I enable this? I want to have access to kernel logs after rebooting from a kernel panic which I begin to have really frequently these tiemes. |
| 21:33.33 | Tekk_ | Hey, am I crazy or is libcurl broken in testing? Specifically, curlrules.h has an error in it. echo "#include <curl/curl.h>" | gcc -x c - -o foo |
| 21:33.41 | Tekk_ | (Mostly just asking to confirm before I actually fire a bug report) |
| 21:34.26 | peanatsu | well, thanks for the help, towo` |
| 21:35.31 | blotek | okay good night guys |
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| 21:53.51 | bolt | on a box with xfce4 running xterm, i can't close xterm with the close button until i've killed any and all programs it's running, save the initial shell process. if i've run "su -", i can't close it until i first type "exit". if I've got vim open, I can't close it. why is this, and what can I do about it? why won't it just close and send HUP like a good terminal? |
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| 22:04.15 | nickgaw | Hi, I am looking at building the android source code mainly for testing on Stretch and notice that javacc is only one package should there not be other tools installed or is there a meta package like build-essential which is already installed for java? |
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| 22:06.05 | aegis | nickgaw: did you try this? https://i.redd.it/3g35a21u4q8y.jpg |
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| 22:06.14 | Zewwy | Why is it when I DD from a disc to a file system I can hit 80 MB/s over the Sata connectors but writing either a disk or FileSystem to a disc I can only ever hit 20 MB/s? |
| 22:06.17 | Zewwy | e.g dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb (20 MB/s) |
| 22:06.20 | Zewwy | e.g dd if=/dev/sda of=/temp/somefile.img (80 MB/s) |
| 22:06.23 | Zewwy | e.g dd if=/temp/somefile.img of=/dev/sdb (20 MB/s) |
| 22:07.32 | nickgaw | I am using a text only system for building can you let me know what that image is as I am totally blind so can't see the jpg file? |
| 22:08.20 | likcoras | Is there a reason why debian, by default, sets /boot as ext2 (and not ext4, like all the other filesystems)? |
| 22:08.44 | aegis | nickgaw: disregard. It turn out it doesn't apply to your situation and is not helpful. |
| 22:08.51 | Zewwy | like all other filesystem? |
| 22:08.58 | Zewwy | or like all other distros? |
| 22:09.19 | likcoras | I mean, when I select "guided partitioning", for instance. |
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| 22:09.52 | Zewwy | just funny how you worded yoru question, why does this Distro use this file system type instead of this fuilesystem type like all opther file systems |
| 22:10.09 | likcoras | more specifically, guided + lvm + luks, it sets up a separate /boot and everything else is in the encrypted lvm, using ext4 |
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| 22:10.18 | likcoras | yeah, messed up a bit there, heh. |
| 22:10.34 | likcoras | Is there a reason why debian, by default, sets /boot as ext2 (and not ext4, like all the other *mount points*)? |
| 22:10.47 | Zewwy | just cause thats teh things about Distros, choice of how to do things |
| 22:10.53 | Zewwy | why there choice, i dunno |
| 22:11.05 | missmbob | likcoras: makes certain old versions of grub/lilo work with it. i think that's why default was just set to stay with ext2 |
| 22:11.06 | nickgaw | One issue I found during an installation is if you select encryption of an entire disk it takes forever to zero out the data and the entire hard drive is not avalible for use after the entire drive is encrypted is this normal for not all of 1 TB to be usable by the users and is there a way to not zero out everything as it takes forever? |
| 22:11.25 | missmbob | likcoras: you can change it to be ext4 if you want |
| 22:11.32 | likcoras | Ah, I see |
| 22:11.34 | likcoras | makes sense |
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| 22:12.11 | Zewwy | nickgaw: Not sure how debian handles that, I'm just used to bitlocker |
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| 22:12.17 | zykotick9 | nickgaw: when you start the zeroing (during text netinst) there in a Cancel option if you hit Enter... |
| 22:12.31 | Zewwy | which is encryption after installation, and allows a small portion of disc to be used during encryptions |
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| 22:13.53 | nickgaw | so it is required as I have a 1 TB drive and only had around 950 GB to use after the encryption is that space required for the non-encrypted portions? |
| 22:14.49 | likcoras | I think you still need a /boot partition outside, also the headers, but no idea whether they're supposed to be that large. |
| 22:15.47 | nickgaw | My system is not currently encrypted can I convert it to an encrypted system to back again if I choose? |
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| 22:23.59 | tomreyn | nickgaw: converting an existing installation into a full disk encryption one is not officially supported. but there is a solution for this issue: http://johannes-bauer.com/linux/luksipc/ |
| 22:24.40 | tomreyn | once you have it encrypted, removing the encryption layer is not as easily done without reinstalling, though. |
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| 22:25.14 | tomreyn | whenever you do such dangerous changes you need to ensure you have current, complete, and realibly restorable backups. |
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| 22:37.08 | __0 | wanna security os, not this bolter - u coll it debian) |
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| 22:37.30 | __0 | any suggestion? |
| 22:37.41 | mtn | huh? |
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| 22:43.54 | stew | Zewwy: when your target is a file on a filesystem, the bytes are flushed to disk asynchronously, when writing to a device they are blocking on flushing to disk |
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| 22:59.17 | carvite | Hi, trying to update the system I get: Killedg package lists... 78% |
| 22:59.38 | themill | fun |
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| 23:00.56 | themill | Which release of debian? Do you have a particularly small amount of memory and a long sources.list? |
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| 23:04.48 | carvite | themill: yes, it's a vps with 128 MB RAM, Debian GNU/Linux stretch/sid and sources.list: http://sprunge.us/ggAY |
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| 23:06.01 | themill | what a mess |
| 23:06.10 | yoyo_ | vnc account user admin pass password 81.185.135.65 |
| 23:06.27 | teraflops | yoyo_: sure |
| 23:06.41 | yoyo_ | yah |
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| 23:08.05 | [Saint] | Anyone have any clue as to why initramfs-tools is having a cry about cryptsetup when attempting to build an initramfs? |
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| 23:08.31 | themill | carvite: you really need to pick one release and stick to it. there is no need for all that mess there |
| 23:08.40 | [Saint] | I'm getting a warning that mmcbkl*p* isn't defined in fstab, despite that definitely not being the case. |
| 23:09.23 | themill | carvite: that is, if you're running stretch, then only have the stretch line. Nothing else. |
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| 23:12.32 | carvite | themill: it's due to pinning, so I can get packages from multiple repos accordingly to the priority set or the needs |
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| 23:12.49 | themill | no, it's insane |
| 23:13.24 | themill | There is no sensible use case for mixing wheezy, jessie, stretch, sid and experimental. (and then there are the completely useless duplicates of stretch and testing) |
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| 23:15.02 | themill | To do so on a box with little memory is even more crazy. |
| 23:15.20 | phogg | there are plenty of senseless reasons to mix like that, but part of the deal is you never ask for help |
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| 23:18.23 | awal1 | carvite: sid wtf? is that a special repo sid what the fuck for block systemd? :D |
| 23:19.20 | themill | yes, it's a repo born out of ranting |
| 23:19.37 | awal1 | :D |
| 23:19.56 | themill | (and completely unsupportable by #debian0 |
| 23:19.58 | themill | ) |
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| 23:49.09 | teraflops | phogg: hehe |
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| 23:49.21 | phogg | teraflops: ? |
| 23:49.36 | teraflops | phogg ⸠there are plenty of senseless reasons to mix like that, but part of the deal is you never ask for help |
| 23:49.51 | phogg | oh yes |
| 23:50.05 | phogg | speaking from personal hell^H^H^H^Hexperience, of course. |
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