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| 00:10.16 | vr__ | teraflops: Check out this thread : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=88545&start=30 |
| 00:11.12 | teraflops | vr__: why? |
| 00:13.08 | teraflops | 4shared is not a debian repo and yes infinality is unmantained, you can still use it in debian because debian has old version of packages |
| 00:13.43 | AciD` | hey |
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| 00:14.02 | teraflops | vr__: freetype2 |
| 00:14.21 | AciD` | I'm about to reinstall my Debian Testing since btrfs b0rked itself and I have lots of corrupted file everywhere |
| 00:14.28 | vr__ | teraflops: My understanding is those updates aren't in the release Jessie (8.6) |
| 00:14.33 | AciD` | what should I (try to) save ? |
| 00:14.55 | vr__ | teraflops: Also, I think one or more of those scripts installs font packages (free). I found those fonts with the freetype2 improvements make Linux look great |
| 00:14.59 | teraflops | vr__: yeah if you meant freetype2, that's what I said |
| 00:15.07 | AciD` | I made an rsync of /etc (which I only plan to use manually, when needed). Should I think about anything else? |
| 00:15.32 | vr__ | teraflops: I think there's two parts. Updated freetype2 which improves the rendering, based on updated rules, etc. Then there's the set of fonts as well |
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| 00:16.03 | teraflops | vr__: patched fonts and custom pre-font configurations, indeed |
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| 00:16.14 | teraflops | per* |
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| 00:17.09 | vr__ | teraflops: Yeah. So my goal was to get the fonts from the linux configuration (which are free) on my Win setup. They look great on the Debian Jessie setup |
| 00:17.33 | bolt | !tell AciD` about things to backup |
| 00:17.37 | teraflops | vr__: your goal is offtopic here :D |
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| 00:18.26 | vr__ | teraflops: Hah. Was curious if anyone was aware of what font mapping those scripts, etc use. But I guess you COULD be right :) |
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| 00:29.53 | menace | hi, i know there's in debian a tool for testing/validating the storage capacity of a storage medium/drive. but for the love of god, i cannot remember the name.. anyone? |
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| 00:31.00 | tomcres | ,i f3 |
| 00:31.01 | judd | Package f3 (utils, optional) in jessie/amd64: test real flash memory capacity. Version: 4.0-2; Size: 14.5k; Installed: 82k; Homepage: http://oss.digirati.com.br/f3; O: #848674 |
| 00:31.20 | menace | yes! thanx! |
| 00:31.39 | tomcres | no problem :-) |
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| 00:36.31 | awal1 | hot to search for archived bugs using either querybts or apt-listbugs? |
| 00:36.38 | awal1 | how to |
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| 00:39.10 | nauticalnexus | this isn't directly related to Debian but why is this happening? https://wiki.debian.org/IRC |
| 00:39.15 | nauticalnexus | getting a 403 forbidden |
| 00:39.38 | tomcres | works for me |
| 00:39.51 | nauticalnexus | huh |
| 00:39.56 | nauticalnexus | that's weird |
| 00:39.59 | awal1 | I want reopen an old chromium bug |
| 00:40.23 | nauticalnexus | I legitimately cannot access it |
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| 00:47.25 | hexadecimal | i can access it |
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| 01:13.30 | awal1 | what means reopen bugnumber [ originator-address | = | ! ] ? |
| 01:14.46 | awal1 | I dont understand exactly [ originator-address | = | ! ] since I never sent a request for control@bugs.debian.org for reopen a bug |
| 01:16.01 | themill | that is explained in the very next paragraph |
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| 01:18.23 | awal1 | themill, I see but I dont get it sorry. I was the original porter |
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| 01:18.48 | awal1 | reopen 1111 and-what-I put-here ? nothing? |
| 01:18.55 | BRS-Ryan | Hello this is Ryan from BulkReefSupply.com. If you are a reefer and still using a hydrometer to measure your specific gravity, you need to understand that anyone who has been in the reefing hobby for any real period of time, uses a refractometer. I suggest swapping out your hydrometer for a refractometer today, as its more accurate. Visit http://www.bulkreefsupply.com today for all your reefing needs, as at Bulk Reef Supply our mission is to make reefing fun |
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| 01:19.26 | themill | awal1: «By default, or if you specify =, the original submitter is still as the originator of the report» |
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| 01:20.12 | heston | just wondering what the ETA is on the 8.7 installation isos might be |
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| 01:21.11 | heston | s//might be |
| 01:21.26 | themill | todayish |
| 01:21.40 | awal1 | themill, ok, got it; thanks |
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| 01:40.30 | awal1 | If x bug is archived as "Bug is archived. No further changes may be made." that means not possible to reopen? |
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| 01:42.42 | themill | it needs to be unarchived first |
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| 01:44.49 | awal1 | right, I got a mail error with "see unarchive" but I dont see unarchive in the reference card |
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| 01:46.56 | themill | https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control#unarchive |
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| 01:48.14 | awal1 | themill, ok, fine, thanks |
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| 01:56.46 | [ANDREI] | hello :) |
| 01:56.51 | gerard_ | hello |
| 01:57.43 | gerard_ | I just installed Debian 8.6 and I can't find the Gnome Software Manager |
| 01:58.08 | gerard_ | I have the Gnome desktop installed |
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| 02:02.06 | tomcres | It's not in the dock? |
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| 02:05.38 | TomTomTosch | ,v gnome-software |
| 02:05.39 | judd | Package: gnome-software on amd64 -- sid: 3.22.4-1; stretch: 3.22.4-1 |
| 02:05.48 | TomTomTosch | it's not in jessie. |
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| 02:08.47 | gerard_ | Oh I didn't know it wasn't in Jessie. :( |
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| 02:10.08 | gerard_ | So I can't install it? I just tried apt-get install gnome-software |
| 02:10.12 | gerard_ | and it didn't find it |
| 02:10.41 | tomcres | It belongs to a newer version of GNOME than what jessie ships with. It's not installable. |
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| 02:12.36 | gerard_ | Oh ok. Thanks! |
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| 02:14.02 | Svetlana | debian netinst is stuck on partitioning 120GB partition i asked it reduce to 40GB. progress bar 0%. gui install. says 'please wait'. is this normal? i waited about 10 mins. |
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| 02:20.12 | awal1 | may be much more than that |
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| 02:20.56 | awal1 | gparted live image is faster will do in a few seconds |
| 02:22.40 | awal1 | Svetlana, jessie installer? |
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| 03:13.21 | CuChulaind | Can anyone give insight as to why I can not log out(as root) from my Kali liveUSB? http://picpaste.com/20170114_172150-d9qD5kuc.jpg |
| 03:13.30 | missmbob | ask them |
| 03:13.32 | missmbob | !kali |
| 03:13.32 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 03:13.47 | CuChulaind | I did know one is there |
| 03:14.26 | CuChulaind | yet |
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| 03:21.54 | ambient | Howdy, how do I install jitsi?I try but get 'an unspecified transaction error has occurred' |
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| 03:31.41 | psiklops | Good morning |
| 03:32.33 | win32 | hm |
| 03:32.36 | win32 | gm |
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| 03:34.17 | psiklops | Is there a way # apt-get or aptitude can "download" a certain package and all it's dependencies + regardless if the depends. are installed on system or not ? |
| 03:35.27 | psiklops | something like # aptitude download install <foo> .... but without installing, only downloading |
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| 04:00.33 | tomcres | psiklops `apt-get -d install foo` |
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| 04:03.52 | jasabella | if i'm using software that's not distributed by debian, compiling from source, what is the recommended approach? ./configure --prefix=/opt --exec-prefix=/opt? |
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| 04:04.07 | jasabella | or /usr/local? |
| 04:05.10 | nic_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:07.37 | jasabella | ok |
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| 05:37.45 | hellyeah | hey |
| 05:37.56 | hellyeah | my bluetooth didnt work properly help pls |
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| 05:45.25 | Peppernrino | so hey |
| 05:45.42 | Peppernrino | having some trouble setting up a debian server |
| 05:45.55 | Peppernrino | hosts or something is buggered |
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| 05:46.50 | TuxShells | ... |
| 05:46.59 | Peppernrino | E: Unable to locate package software-properties-common |
| 05:46.59 | Peppernrino | sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found |
| 05:47.00 | themill | !ask |
| 05:47.00 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 05:47.07 | Peppernrino | debian 8 |
| 05:47.11 | Peppernrino | on a vps |
| 05:47.20 | Peppernrino | i'm thinking because it's openvz |
| 05:47.26 | themill | Peppernrino: add-apt-repository has no place on Debian systems |
| 05:47.29 | Peppernrino | i've had to hack the hosts file a little |
| 05:47.37 | Peppernrino | ah |
| 05:47.46 | TuxShells | :) |
| 05:47.53 | Peppernrino | what to use instead? |
| 05:48.00 | Peppernrino | i need to install a ppa |
| 05:48.01 | themill | software-properties-common can and does exist although I don't know why you'd use it on a server |
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| 05:48.08 | themill | no, you do not need a PPA |
| 05:48.13 | themill | !ppa |
| 05:48.13 | dpkg | [ppa] Personal Package Archive (see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas or <launchpad>). PPAs are either: (a) an easy way to grab packages based on nightly-builds/VCS snapshots or (b) an easy way for any idiot to publish a package of extremely poor quality (remember, you will run the maintainer scripts as root during install!). Choose your repos wisely. No equivalent exists for Debian yet. Ask me about <why not use a ppa>. |
| 05:48.37 | Peppernrino | is this an opinion channel or a help channel? |
| 05:48.42 | Peppernrino | i prefer aur personally. lol |
| 05:48.49 | Peppernrino | but that' s not what this is about |
| 05:49.03 | themill | Feel free to do what you want, but PPAs are not for Debian and they are not supported in #debian. |
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| 05:49.17 | Peppernrino | !suggestalternatives |
| 05:49.25 | themill | Try asking a question |
| 05:49.59 | alexxey | PPA packages are built for ubuntu which are not compatible with debian |
| 05:50.21 | alexxey | Hello. I'm trying to build librime from source when I encountered this error: |
| 05:50.23 | alexxey | Iconv was not found. Make sure ICONV_LIBRARY and ICONV_INCLUDE_DIR are |
| 05:50.23 | alexxey | set. |
| 05:50.31 | Peppernrino | this guy said he got it running on an amazon instance |
| 05:50.35 | Peppernrino | i don't think he;s lying... |
| 05:51.24 | alexxey | But I cannot find out which package to install to satisfy this dependency. |
| 05:51.27 | themill | Peppernrino: whatever "it" is |
| 05:51.30 | alexxey | Thanks! |
| 05:51.51 | Peppernrino | usually helps to be vague. |
| 05:52.04 | Peppernrino | you're already projecting. lol |
| 05:52.33 | Peppernrino | i'm setting up an autonode script to run for a philanthropic science project. |
| 05:52.56 | Peppernrino | ppas are not exactly the best, but they're how the script is written for now. |
| 05:53.02 | themill | alexxey: do you have libc6-dev installed? |
| 05:53.13 | Peppernrino | if you can suggest an alternative course of action.... maybe compile from scratch or what? |
| 05:53.40 | themill | Peppernrino: what sort of suggestions do you hope to get when you've not provided any alternative? |
| 05:53.46 | themill | any informat |
| 05:53.48 | themill | ion |
| 05:53.51 | themill | fails at typing |
| 05:53.54 | alexxey | themill, Yes: libc6-dev is already the newest version (2.24-8). libc6-dev set to manually installed. |
| 05:54.17 | themill | alexxey: can you pastebin some context about how it is looking for iconv? |
| 05:55.31 | Peppernrino | what do you need to know? |
| 05:55.43 | themill | alexxey: this sounds like a cmake project -- do you have a new enough cmake? |
| 05:56.06 | alexxey | themill, Sure, I'll do that and come back in a while |
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| 05:56.45 | themill | alexxey: librime is already in Debian -- any reason not to use the packaged version? (also, the package says what the build-dependencies are) |
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| 05:57.35 | alexxey | themill, I think I have, with cmake 3.7.1-1 installed |
| 05:57.44 | themill | that should be fine |
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| 05:58.17 | alexxey | themill, I'm trying to test a specific senario with the newest git version. |
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| 05:58.58 | themill | alexxey: have you already "apt-get builddep librime" ? |
| 05:59.30 | Peppernrino | anyway... we figure it's a DNS issue or the like. for the ubuntu script i just slapped stuff in the /etc/hosts file, but no dice on debian. |
| 05:59.53 | themill | Peppernrino: you keep saying "it" and you keep providing zero context. |
| 06:00.06 | Peppernrino | i could show you :D |
| 06:00.23 | themill | alexxey: I don't see a cmake/FindIconv.cmake in the debian source package there either though so this might all be newer |
| 06:00.43 | themill | alexxey: if that file exists in your git checkout then that might tell you how it is trying to find iconv |
| 06:01.30 | Peppernrino | http://pastebin.com/j2U2q0Le |
| 06:01.31 | Peppernrino | it ^ |
| 06:01.50 | Peppernrino | yes, it's messy. |
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| 06:01.59 | themill | that is horrendous |
| 06:02.01 | Peppernrino | yes there are unnecessary update calls |
| 06:02.11 | Peppernrino | ah opinions |
| 06:02.35 | themill | I'm allowed to have opinions about whether I volunteer my time to support crap |
| 06:02.51 | alexxey | themill, Yes, I've already done apt build-dep. |
| 06:02.52 | alexxey | themill, I've built deb packages of librime1 from the debian source package without issues. So this 'dependency' could be newly added by the author. |
| 06:02.53 | Peppernrino | you're not really helping though |
| 06:03.03 | themill | Peppernrino: I'm backing away slowly. |
| 06:03.07 | Peppernrino | you're kind of just using the place as a sounding board for how intelligent you are |
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| 06:03.21 | Peppernrino | that's cool though |
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| 06:03.25 | themill | feel free to troll elsewhere, that's fine. |
| 06:03.33 | Peppernrino | i came for help |
| 06:03.37 | Peppernrino | you're trollin bud. |
| 06:03.48 | themill | I'll help people who don't spend their time trying to insult me so that I feel guilty enough to help them |
| 06:03.53 | Peppernrino | lol |
| 06:03.58 | Peppernrino | now it's about your feelings? |
| 06:04.05 | Peppernrino | aw man |
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| 06:04.13 | themill | that's enough, thanks. |
| 06:04.30 | themill | alexxey: yeah, so does that FindIconv.cmake file exist> |
| 06:04.31 | themill | ? |
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| 06:09.16 | themill | alexxey: do you have /usr/include/iconv.h ? |
| 06:11.17 | alexxey | themill, yes, there is an /usr/include/iconv.h . And there is an ./cmake/FindIconv.cmake |
| 06:11.55 | redrabbit | hi, i have two old disks and another one that used only 5% by a linux headless setup. What can i use to consolidate/merge them in 1 storage space |
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| 06:13.07 | alexxey | themill, I found other errors in CMake*.log. I'm trying to sort them out. |
| 06:13.08 | alexxey | https://paste.debian.net/908811/ |
| 06:13.11 | alexxey | https://paste.debian.net/908812/ |
| 06:13.15 | alexxey | https://paste.debian.net/908815/ |
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| 06:14.51 | themill | alexxey: looking at that cmake snippet, it is searching for a library called iconv but iirc that's internal to libc and doesn't need to be explicitly linked; not sure about what boost bits it is looking for |
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| 06:19.11 | alexxey | themill, I just resolved the boost_locale dependencies by installing libboost-locale1.62*. I will try to contact the librime author on the ICONV issue. |
| 06:19.40 | alexxey | Thanks! |
| 06:20.00 | themill | Explicitly linking iconv may well be necessary on some other systems so it might just be a matter of some conditionals around that test. Not sure. |
| 06:20.10 | themill | Have fun! |
| 06:21.40 | alexxey | ;-) |
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| 06:50.47 | PresidentNotSure | 4.9 kernel panics when inserting an USB wireless adapter X_X |
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| 06:51.48 | GI_Jack | how does debian's initial ram disk generation work |
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| 07:14.21 | jusss | mkinitcpio is available on debian jessie? |
| 07:14.35 | GI_Jack | jusss, what? |
| 07:14.38 | GI_Jack | really? |
| 07:14.42 | jusss | I tried apt-cache search mkinitcpio, and don't find it |
| 07:14.55 | jusss | GI_Jack: ? |
| 07:15.14 | GI_Jack | jusss, I am just looking for debian's initial ram disk creation tool |
| 07:15.23 | jusss | I know there's also mkinitramfs |
| 07:15.26 | GI_Jack | yes |
| 07:15.28 | GI_Jack | I know |
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| 07:15.47 | jusss | GI_Jack: so mkinitcpio is in which pacakge? |
| 07:15.50 | GI_Jack | mkinitcpio is arch linux. I have a script I wrote for arch, but I also use debian, and I want to port my initcpio module to initramfs |
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| 07:16.45 | marinade | hey, how can I map my capslock to fire a key combination like ctrl + alt + space? |
| 07:17.42 | jusss | GI_Jack: I upgrade my kernel through package or compiled, and the system init stuck in "Begin: Runing /scripts/local-block ... done" and can't find my root paritition |
| 07:18.04 | jusss | GI_Jack: so I think it's initramfs problem |
| 07:18.26 | jusss | but I use the old kernel can boot the system |
| 07:18.54 | jusss | so I don't think there's problem with my partition, it's initramfs problem |
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| 07:20.19 | GI_Jack | jusss, its not a problem, I'm trying to port a feature from another distro |
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| 08:05.03 | whitesec8 | when is inauguration day for trump |
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| 08:05.57 | PresidentNotSure | Why aren't my Chromium extensions being synced when logging in with my google account? |
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| 08:07.11 | verumnost | guys I have two interfaces set up and after a reboot both doesn't acquire their IP addresses. But after a simple ifdown & ifup they work fine. Any ideas where should I look at ? dhcpcd ? |
| 08:10.41 | whitesec8 | Prez trump 2017. |
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| 08:22.11 | BlackBishop | any reason why adding -4 to /etc/default/bind9 OPTIONS would just be ignored ? |
| 08:22.26 | BlackBishop | It still starts bind with just -f -u bind for some reason ! :| |
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| 08:45.16 | BlackBishop | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=767798 .. srsly ? what the heck ? |
| 08:45.17 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/767798 in bind9 (pending, patch): «bind9: ignores OPTIONS from /etc/default/bind9 w/ systemd»; severity: important; opened: 2014-11-02; last modified: 2017-01-05. |
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| 09:27.42 | pikaro | hi! I backed up my system for a reinstallation and stupidly only saved the list of _installed_ but not _manually installed_ packages. where can I find that list on the old system? |
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| 09:42.51 | GPenguin | pikaro: in /var/log the file dpkg.log most likely |
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| 09:44.34 | pikaro | GPenguin, unfortunately, I had logrotate installed, so the /var/log files are limited in scope :\ |
| 09:45.37 | pikaro | it /var/cache/apt there are .bin files that look like they might be what I'm looking for, but I don't know how to read them. and the old disk is in hardware heaven now. |
| 09:45.39 | GPenguin | then use the .1 and .2 files etc. |
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| 09:46.42 | pikaro | they only go back to april last year, this system ran for five years |
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| 09:47.04 | GPenguin | and you want to pick up all the dust for the new system? |
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| 09:48.49 | pikaro | GPenguin, not dust - I just have a lot of convenience scripts that (for example) relied on things like python modules etc. figuring out which ones those were exactly would be very tedious. if I wanted to pick up the dist I'd just reinstall everything I had on the old system - the list of that I do have |
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| 09:54.36 | verumnost | raspberrypi wpa_supplicant[437]: Could not read interface wlan1 flags: No such device -> WEXT: Could not set interface 'wlan1' UP but after a sudo service networking restart, everyhting works fine. any ideas ? |
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| 10:04.23 | verumnosliberat | can anyone help please ? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/465e9f992c0d723df163f895820bb3c6 |
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| 10:11.28 | jelly | verumnosliberat: if you have a Raspbian installation, ask in #raspbian channel |
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| 10:30.40 | sin-ok | hello |
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| 10:37.11 | sin-ok | ÐÑ Ñе ÑÑÑ, поÑонÑ? |
| 10:37.19 | jelly | !ru |
| 10:37.19 | dpkg | ÐÑо английÑкоговоÑÑÑий канал, пожалÑйÑÑа, говоÑиÑе по-английÑки или поÑеÑиÑе #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
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| 11:02.34 | elvirolo | hi all |
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| 11:07.05 | craash | Hello, is there php7.1 for stretch (testing)? can't find anything on google. |
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| 11:12.53 | craash | sorry I see now on reddit that ist in que for stretch. |
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| 11:14.31 | nohitall | hi, im trying to change the IP of my eth1, I change it in /etc/network/interfaces, but after restarting network its still the old IP...ifdown eth1 says eth1 is not configured |
| 11:14.38 | nohitall | anybody got another idea before I reboot this thing? |
| 11:14.45 | nohitall | debian jessie |
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| 11:17.42 | elvirolo | nohitall: Please show us your /etc/network/interfaces :) |
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| 11:21.42 | nohitall | elvirolo: hm fund the issue, seems running tasks didnt allow a change, nevermind it :) |
| 11:21.49 | nohitall | forgot that something was still running there |
| 11:22.51 | elvirolo | nohitall: good :) |
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| 11:23.31 | winsen_ | hi all |
| 11:23.37 | hexadecimal | hello |
| 11:23.55 | winsen_ | does anyone know any good pdf editor? |
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| 11:26.57 | BellyButtonLint | winsen_ I'm sure someone does |
| 11:27.06 | BellyButtonLint | any other questions? |
| 11:27.14 | BellyButtonLint | ;) |
| 11:27.31 | GPenguin | *g* BellyButtonLint |
| 11:27.52 | hexadecimal | winsen_: I think inkscape can do the job, take a look |
| 11:28.15 | GPenguin | why not use Libre Office? |
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| 11:29.26 | BellyButtonLint | http://alternativeto.net/software/master-pdf-editor/?platform=linux |
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| 11:30.10 | BellyButtonLint | this website lets you input an existing app and select down to platform and license for alternatives I have found it useful for many years |
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| 11:31.04 | apestate | master still was the best for me when I looked recently |
| 11:31.13 | GPenguin | you can do that with "packagesearch" too |
| 11:32.13 | BellyButtonLint | "packagesearch" is that when milfs check me out or...? |
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| 11:33.01 | hexadecimal | milfs? what? |
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| 11:33.56 | BellyButtonLint | sudo milf -r packagesearch /etc/hosts dongs.com 127.0.0.1 |
| 11:34.40 | jelly | BellyButtonLint: try to keep it serious (or at least technically relevant) in here |
| 11:34.49 | BellyButtonLint | haha gotcha |
| 11:36.31 | BellyButtonLint | normally my rule of thumb is if chat is busy with people being helped I stay on topic but if the screen is moving slowly then I dont worry cause I know people with be able to easily parse the info they are affter. Still you asked so I'l comply. THanks for being shill about it |
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| 11:37.32 | BellyButtonLint | I'm actually here cause I'm hoping someone could help me clear up som confusion over how some of the things i configures should be working |
| 11:38.01 | jelly | you can scroll away in #debian-offtopic, random junk in log discourages volunteers from helping or even looking at older questions |
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| 11:38.46 | BellyButtonLint | i get that, I'll stay on topic |
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| 11:42.39 | BellyButtonLint | Short version I have a debian vm host runing on a dedicated server w/ a single IP, I setup isc-dhcp-server To serve IPs to my vms and forward ports from the host to the VMs, I use putty to ssh to my VMs and trying to use ssh tunnels to manage serices running on them. |
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| 11:43.04 | winsen_ | hexadecimal: thanks, other suggestion? |
| 11:45.38 | BellyButtonLint | issue I'm spotty on is when you use an ssh tunnel, I should not have to forward port 80 ing my prerouting from host to vm since my port 80 traffic should be pumped over the ssh connection yeah? |
| 11:46.04 | BellyButtonLint | winsen_ did you look at the link I sent you? |
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| 11:53.53 | Kiril | Hello |
| 11:53.59 | Kiril | anyone is aware of this |
| 11:54.00 | Kiril | https://legalhackers.com/advisories/Nginx-Exploit-Deb-Root-PrivEsc-CVE-2016-1247.html |
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| 11:55.22 | Kiril | from the debian team ? |
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| 11:56.44 | gusnan | Kiril: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=842276 |
| 11:56.45 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/842276 in src:nginx (closed, confirmed): «nginx-common.config dpkg --compare-versions will mishandle return codes should the check fail»; severity: serious; opened: 2016-10-27; last modified: 2016-12-07. |
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| 12:12.54 | winsen_ | BellyButtonLint: only open office ext is free. |
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| 12:18.15 | SpaceAce | trying to create a user account and i'm getting "useradd: failed to reset the lastlog entry of UID 1001: Is a directory |
| 12:18.15 | SpaceAce | " |
| 12:18.16 | winsen_ | BellyButtonLint: for example Master PDF Editor or pdf studio.. |
| 12:19.49 | petn-randall | BellyButtonLint: If you use it like this, "ssh -L 8080:localhost:80", the port 8080 on your local machine will be forwarded to port 80 on the remote one. So browsing to http://localhost:8080 will pull up the remote machines website, assuming it doesn't check the host parameter your browser sends. |
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| 12:21.30 | solrize | hi what's a good desktop for a netbook? there are a few different install cds for mate, lxde etc |
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| 12:22.24 | petn-randall | solrize: I'd go with xfce or lxde. But you can simply install them all, and just choose one in the login manager. |
| 12:22.29 | GI_Jack | solrize, I go with XFCE |
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| 12:22.50 | GI_Jack | medium weight desktop, friendly, but not too resource intensive |
| 12:22.54 | solrize | hmm thanks. not MATE? i ask because i've been using that one on a bigger machine |
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| 12:23.27 | GI_Jack | solrize, full weight DE/WMs can sometimes need accerlated graphics, i.e. a working OpenGL stack |
| 12:23.40 | solrize | mate's a full weight? ok downloading xfce |
| 12:23.41 | solrize | thanks |
| 12:23.55 | GI_Jack | the requirement is not a great strain on any video card, but it does require a working video card + drivers |
| 12:24.02 | GI_Jack | MATE is a fork of GNOME2 so yes |
| 12:24.28 | GI_Jack | netbooks often have funny video cards |
| 12:24.38 | GI_Jack | note that intel/AMD/nvidia cards are all fine |
| 12:24.57 | solrize | good point. yeah i'll try xfce... gonna use live install since the thing currently has windows xp |
| 12:25.01 | GI_Jack | netbooks start doing dumb shit like using embedded/mobile video cards |
| 12:25.14 | GI_Jack | solrize, it also depends on your prefrence |
| 12:25.27 | leafwiz__ | hey. trying to get php7 installed on streach, but after the packages are installed php will not load, and I have not found the load files for apache and php7. I am a bit unsure of what to do. What should I check? or do? |
| 12:25.31 | solrize | i remember disliking gnome 3 so i used mate which is basically gnome 2 |
| 12:27.41 | BellyButtonLint | petn-randall I know that's how it's suposed to work but it does not seem to be working in that manner |
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| 12:32.02 | egrain | how can i find out the current kernel version of debian? |
| 12:32.49 | SynrGy | egrain: in the archive, or on your system? |
| 12:32.53 | BellyButtonLint | My setup Putty (ssh -L 8080:localhost:80) > Hertzner Public IP > Proxmox Virtual Host on debian w/ isc-dhcp-server service private IPs w/ port forwarding for SSH port puplic ip on port XX to 192.168.1.100:22 > VM static private ip 192.168.1.100 connectable via ssh |
| 12:33.05 | BellyButtonLint | petn-randall |
| 12:33.09 | egrain | i have this one running: Linux version 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.9.2 (Debian 4.9.2-10) ) #1 SMP Debian 4.7.8-1~bpo8+1 (2016-10-19) |
| 12:33.17 | egrain | seems pretty new. |
| 12:33.18 | SynrGy | ,kernels |
| 12:33.19 | egrain | but i'm not sure. |
| 12:33.19 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.2-2); stretch: 4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.15-2); jessie-backports: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.8.11-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.39-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-1) |
| 12:33.31 | egrain | thanks so much. |
| 12:33.52 | BellyButtonLint | but the ssh tunnel is not letting me load my webserver on my VM |
| 12:34.12 | egrain | ,openssh |
| 12:34.20 | egrain | ,ssh |
| 12:34.24 | egrain | ,openssl |
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| 12:34.30 | egrain | please someone help me out here. |
| 12:34.44 | SynrGy | egrain: if you want to ask judd bot, msg it. and 'kernels' is special. just say: /msg judd v openssh |
| 12:35.17 | SynrGy | egrain: or rather openssh-client (or openssh-server) |
| 12:35.21 | egrain | oh, openssh doesn't seem to be a package. you guys divide those, right? |
| 12:35.22 | egrain | yeah. |
| 12:36.52 | SynrGy | egrain: additionally, packages.debian.org can give you the same info |
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| 12:37.27 | petn-randall | BellyButtonLint: What error are you getting? |
| 12:37.33 | egrain | okay, one more question: OpenSSH_6.7p1 Debian-5+deb8u3, OpenSSL 1.0.1t 3 May 2016 this seems okay, but this very friendly judd artificial person gives me a few repositories so i'm not sure again. |
| 12:37.39 | petn-randall | BellyButtonLint: Does normal ssh work fine? |
| 12:38.03 | BellyButtonLint | yeah |
| 12:38.27 | BellyButtonLint | I can ssh to my my hosty os and my vm OSs |
| 12:38.44 | BellyButtonLint | run commands change settings via terminal |
| 12:39.20 | SynrGy | egrain: not sure what you mean by "ok". i guess you should know which release you're on. if you're on jessie (current stable), then jessie-backports is also relevant to you. otherwise, if on stretch (current "testing"), then see stretch |
| 12:39.34 | petn-randall | BellyButtonLint: What error are you getting when you try to access the SSH tunnel? |
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| 12:39.40 | SynrGy | egrain: what problem are you trying to solve? |
| 12:39.41 | egrain | SynrGy, i'm sorry. i don't know how i find out which release i'm on. |
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| 12:39.52 | SynrGy | cat /etc/debian_release |
| 12:39.52 | jelly | !debian suite |
| 12:39.52 | dpkg | cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc). Or check /etc/apt/sources.list. If unsure about the distribution, $ cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} should grab almost all distributions. |
| 12:39.59 | SynrGy | er, version, yeah |
| 12:40.04 | BellyButtonLint | petn-randall not worried about an error |
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| 12:40.49 | petn-randall | BellyButtonLint: I thought you said that the ssh tunnel "doesn't work". I'm asking what error you get. |
| 12:40.51 | judd | objects to being an artificial person |
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| 12:41.08 | BellyButtonLint | petn-randall only need to know if I am connected via ssh any ports i tunnel should connect over my ssh port thus I should ONLY need that one port connectable right? |
| 12:41.14 | saju_m | I have a repo build question http://paste.ubuntu.com/23804143/ |
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| 12:41.21 | han-solo | don't be sad. They're just humans :} |
| 12:41.49 | egrain | i have jessie, it seems. i have also one bunsen-hydrogen repository. |
| 12:41.50 | judd | takes pity on the poor flesh-based pond-weed |
| 12:41.55 | jelly | BellyButtonLint: right. also, if you got Proxmox stuff on top, is not Debian any more |
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| 12:42.05 | SynrGy | consoles judd |
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| 12:42.23 | BellyButtonLint | jelly shhh dont tell anyone |
| 12:43.14 | SynrGy | egrain: uhh, then you're not running debian anymore. i think they support you on #bunsenlabs |
| 12:43.35 | jelly | wtf is bunsen |
| 12:43.35 | egrain | oh. i apologize then for bothering you. it's not my server. i'm just checking how secure it is. |
| 12:43.54 | egrain | anyway, i appreciate your help of course. |
| 12:43.55 | SynrGy | jelly: i know. i can't keep track of them all :) |
| 12:44.06 | SynrGy | !bunsenlabs |
| 12:44.07 | dpkg | BunsenLabs Linux is a community continuation of <crunchbang> that features the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.bunsenlabs.org/ #bunsenlabs on chat.freenode.net. See <based on debian> |
| 12:44.27 | BellyButtonLint | "BunsenLabs is a Debian Jessie desktop with custom configurations and some additions. Hence, the hardware recommendations from the Debian project apply for both 32bit and 64bit systems:" |
| 12:44.29 | jelly | dpkg, literal bunsen |
| 12:44.29 | dpkg | jelly: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 12:44.30 | han-solo | :} |
| 12:44.44 | han-solo | there's bunsen burners |
| 12:44.53 | jelly | dpkg, bunsen is <reply>see bunsenlabs |
| 12:44.53 | dpkg | jelly: okay |
| 12:44.55 | han-solo | or is that something else? |
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| 12:45.29 | jelly | han-solo: sure, but lab equipment is not really relevant in this context |
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| 12:45.43 | han-solo | :} |
| 12:45.45 | han-solo | sure |
| 12:46.15 | BellyButtonLint | ignore han-solo he's dead anyway, his son is a real mess and I blame the parents |
| 12:46.44 | han-solo | never dies |
| 12:47.04 | egrain | where do you guys save your iptables.rules? or conf? or what you call it. |
| 12:47.18 | ChuckNoris | Oh Yeah? |
| 12:47.24 | SynrGy | egrain: we can't say where bunsenlabs would save it ... |
| 12:47.30 | egrain | oh, nevermind. there are no iptables on it... |
| 12:47.31 | egrain | wtf? |
| 12:47.37 | egrain | no nftables either. |
| 12:47.41 | egrain | oh crap... |
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| 12:47.54 | SynrGy | egrain: again, probably want to head over to #bunsenlabs now to sort that stuff out |
| 12:48.18 | egrain | i guess i've upset you. i'm gonna go then. |
| 12:48.30 | SynrGy | not upset, no. but we do have rules |
| 12:48.33 | han-solo | throws a fish at ChuckNoris |
| 12:48.37 | SynrGy | !based on debian |
| 12:48.37 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 12:49.04 | egrain | i understand, of course. |
| 12:49.12 | SynrGy | good luck :) |
| 12:49.27 | egrain | not my server. i'm just checking it. but thanks. |
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| 12:49.41 | egrain | i'm already upset, but at least it's no frankendebian like last time. |
| 12:49.46 | han-solo | i felt like, SynrGy just assigned a mission to egrain :} |
| 12:49.49 | egrain | there were ubuntu packages in there even. |
| 12:50.05 | SynrGy | heh |
| 12:50.07 | SynrGy | poor you |
| 12:50.12 | egrain | YOU HAVE NO IDEA! |
| 12:50.18 | SynrGy | i feel your pain |
| 12:50.20 | egrain | and they tell me "would you make this secure for us?" |
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| 12:50.34 | SynrGy | fun, fun. |
| 12:50.39 | egrain | but when i tell them, i have to reinstall the whole system. they are all " oh, well, nevermind..." |
| 12:51.04 | egrain | anyway, as i said, i appreciate your help. |
| 12:51.11 | SynrGy | hope they're paying you enough for this :p |
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| 12:52.17 | egrain | SynrGy, i don't work for money. i do this because i hate myself... i guess. |
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| 12:52.55 | bolt | gah. why are themes so difficult? i want gtk2 and gtk3 apps to simply appear relatively similar, dark gray, square, flat, and minimalistic, with no fancy stuff going on. i can't find a showcase of the themes included in various debian packages, and alsmost all of them seem to be for gtk2 only. themes from deviantart and similar tend to require stuff that isn't in debian, such as gtk3-engines-unico. why is this hard? :( |
| 12:53.04 | egrain | if i type in iptables it says command not found, but dmesg lists all ssh connections starting with "iptables ..."?! |
| 12:53.33 | egrain | well, i'm gonna go back to my initial "let's reinstall" routine. |
| 12:53.36 | egrain | thanks again for your help. |
| 12:54.01 | jelly | egrain: make sure /sbin is present in your (root's) PATH |
| 12:54.11 | jelly | it's /sbin/iptables |
| 12:54.44 | egrain | thank you. |
| 12:54.55 | egrain | is that normal that it doesn't work by just typing in "iptables ..."? |
| 12:55.06 | SynrGy | if you're not root, yes |
| 12:55.20 | SynrGy | normal users don't have /sbin and /usr/sbin in their PATH |
| 12:55.32 | SynrGy | only root does |
| 12:55.32 | egrain | i see. |
| 12:56.22 | SynrGy | reinstalling Debian sounds like an excellent idea. then we could actually support you. |
| 12:56.45 | SynrGy | it might help with the self-loathing, too |
| 12:56.45 | jelly | PATH is what makes commands "work by just typing" them |
| 12:57.37 | SynrGy | if they're looking to you for support, it will certainly increase your confidence in your system to install it yourself |
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| 13:04.53 | egrain | SynrGy, oh, trust me, laziness prevails. as long as it's running they basically don't care. |
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| 13:09.12 | eddard | I have set up a router with 4 NICs, using dnsmasq & shorewall. All is well BUT I cannot connect between subnets on different NICs. Routs are obviously off ... have not managed to fix it with hours of googling ... eth0 is connected to my DSL provider, eth1 (10.10.1.1) serves 10.10.1.x and eth2 (10.10.4.1) serves 10.10.4.x. |
| 13:09.46 | eddard | A machin on 10.10.1.x can ping 10.10.4.1, but nothing else in that subnet. Can anybody help? Should I post my /etc/network/interfaces somewhere? |
| 13:11.15 | rozie | eddard: is forwarding enabled? |
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| 13:12.28 | eddard | rozie: at /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward --> 1, shorewall is taking care of that ... |
| 13:13.02 | eddard | "Cat", not "at" ... |
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| 13:14.39 | rozie | well, I suspect some firewall rules, then. but don't know shorewall |
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| 13:17.23 | eddard | Rozie: that was my first hunch too, but the problem persists after 'shorewall clear' inactivation ... |
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| 13:44.13 | winsen_ | I have error message, how can I remove this key "apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com C1289A29" |
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| 13:45.51 | winsen_ | any clue guys? |
| 13:46.35 | littlebit | hi people, i have a problem with my gitlab server, actually with my ssh keys that I have in use here. when tryin to push d |
| 13:47.15 | littlebit | to my server I keep being asked for the password. I have checked all permissions of the .ssh folder and it's contents. |
| 13:48.40 | g0zzy | "mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat'" (suddenly). Why is that? |
| 13:48.42 | littlebit | I also made sure that it has the right owner. I have stumbled upon this link http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/36540/why-am-i-still-getting-a-password-prompt-with-ssh-with-public-key-authentication at one of the answers it is being suggested to stop the sshd and run /usr/sbin/sshd -d and it is trying to access files at /etc/ssh |
| 13:48.43 | jelly | winsen_: use apt-key del ...? man apt-key |
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| 13:49.07 | littlebit | can someone help please? |
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| 13:49.52 | eddard | yy |
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| 13:51.59 | TomTomTo1 | littlebit: are you trying to log into the server using ssh or are you trying to push commits to a server you have set as remote? |
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| 13:54.47 | littlebit | TomTomTo1: push commits |
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| 13:56.47 | TomTomTo1 | littlebit: you have to create an entry for your ssh key in the profile settings in gitlab. |
| 13:57.24 | littlebit | TomTomTo1: you mean this command "ssh-keygen -t rsa -C "GitLab" -b 4096"? |
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| 13:58.44 | TomTomTo1 | you generate a key on your local machine. you then have to tell gitlab to accept that key. you do that in the profile settings through the web interface. |
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| 14:00.21 | littlebit | TomTomTo1: that is right, I have pasted the public key in my profile settings, yet thing has changed |
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| 14:00.29 | littlebit | it still asks me for the password |
| 14:00.49 | aressio | ciao |
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| 14:00.59 | aressio | !list |
| 14:00.59 | dpkg | aressio: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 14:01.53 | TomTomTo1 | littlebit: did you use the https protocol when cloning the project? |
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| 14:02.57 | TomTomTo1 | littlebit: git remote show origin |
| 14:04.07 | SynrGy | littlebit: are you sure you saved the key after pasting it into your profile settings? |
| 14:04.18 | TomTomTo1 | the fetch and push url should look like git@addr/project if you used the https address you will have to use your account login information every time to authenticate i believe. |
| 14:04.28 | littlebit | TomTomTo1: gives me the: git@gitlab.home.hub's password: |
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| 14:04.44 | TomTomTo1 | did you assign a password to the ssh key? |
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| 14:04.55 | littlebit | TomTomTo1: brb |
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| 14:06.04 | TomTomTo1 | and did you copy the whole key? cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub |
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| 14:14.56 | Somelauw | Am I correct to put deamon files in /etc/systemd/system on Debian? |
| 14:15.43 | littlebit | TomTomTo1: yes I have copied the whole key. |
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| 14:16.24 | littlebit | TomTomTo1: i'm logged in with my user on my dev machine and when pushing I get "git@gitlab.home.hub", as user git?! |
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| 14:28.35 | winsen_ | jelly: thanks |
| 14:29.41 | winsen_ | thanks al |
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| 14:44.49 | newcoder | grub-install /dev/sda = https://bpaste.net/show/861eb289f489 , why is this message? |
| 14:46.20 | steakwipe | newcoder, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlexNet_Publisher#Issues_with_bootloaders |
| 14:46.23 | steakwipe | that's what i found about that |
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| 14:46.54 | steakwipe | it's DRM, for something |
| 14:47.31 | bezaban | some drm feature from windows. Grub should be indicating that it is working around it correctly |
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| 14:48.02 | cdb23ax | hello guys i cant download debian stable from the website the links are broken |
| 14:48.22 | cdb23ax | i would need the debian amd64 netinstall |
| 14:48.44 | steakwipe | which link was broken? the first one listed seems to work fine |
| 14:48.50 | steakwipe | oh that was cached |
| 14:48.52 | bezaban | cdb23ax: indeed. it might be related to the 8.7 release, seems to work better if you change 8.6 to 8.7 in the url |
| 14:48.54 | steakwipe | you might be right |
| 14:48.55 | steakwipe | yeah |
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| 14:49.41 | bezaban | yeah, only 8.7 there: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/, links not updated |
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| 14:49.52 | cdb23ax | yes thanks it works now :) |
| 14:50.21 | bezaban | :) |
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| 14:50.36 | newcoder | steakwipe: Is that error about flexnat a serious problem? |
| 14:51.06 | steakwipe | grub didn't seem to get very upset, if you can still boot you're good |
| 14:51.10 | steakwipe | but i don't know for sure |
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| 14:53.33 | jusss | I upgrade my kernel through linux-image package, and when the system boot up, it stuck in "Runing /scripts/local-block ... done" and tell me "alert! /dev/mmcblk0p20 does not exist" but with old kernel it's just fine |
| 14:54.14 | jusss | also I tried to compile customize kernel, same problem again |
| 14:54.33 | jusss | anyone here met this before? |
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| 15:00.29 | Somelauw | What is the l permission again when doing ls -l file? |
| 15:00.48 | Somelauw | for example lrwxrwxrwx |
| 15:00.50 | jelly | Somelauw: care to show the actual output? |
| 15:01.33 | dvs | Somelauw, the entry is a link |
| 15:01.44 | Somelauw | jelly: /etc/systemd/system% ls -l guix-daemon.service |
| 15:01.46 | Somelauw | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 595 Jan 15 15:26 guix-daemon.service |
| 15:02.00 | jelly | Somelauw: the first character is not a permission, it's file type. d is a directory, - is a regular file, l would be a symlink |
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| 15:03.18 | Somelauw | okay, my systemctl doesn't find the file for some reason, so i was comparing permissions |
| 15:03.28 | jelly | Somelauw: info ls 'What information is listed' |
| 15:03.48 | dvs | Somelauw, so the place the link points to is not there |
| 15:04.05 | jelly | "care to show the actual output?" |
| 15:05.16 | jelly | Somelauw: don't forget to "systemctl daemon-reload" after doing customizations |
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| 15:06.33 | Somelauw | jelly: thanks deamon-reload worked |
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| 15:06.53 | Somelauw | dvs: yes, it's not a symlink |
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| 15:13.21 | kiki` | how can find out what process listening on a certain port |
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| 15:14.07 | ChuckNoris | https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/what-process-has-open-linux-port/ |
| 15:14.23 | ChuckNoris | kiki` |
| 15:14.32 | ChuckNoris | does that address your issue? |
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| 15:16.18 | kiki` | ChuckNoris: thanks |
| 15:16.29 | kiki` | excellent |
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| 15:16.57 | ChuckNoris | can i tell you somthing funny but you have to promise you wont take it as me being a dick |
| 15:16.59 | ChuckNoris | ? |
| 15:17.15 | jelly | no, do it in #debian-offtopic |
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| 15:18.50 | ChuckNoris | not like that, kiki I literaly pasted what you typed into google "how can find out what process listening on a certain port" word for word and clicked the first link. It was an ecelently crafted sentance and comunicated what you needed really weel |
| 15:18.52 | jelly | (and if it's a Just Fucking Google It, that also does not deserve a mention in the public channel) |
| 15:19.02 | ChuckNoris | whoops |
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| 15:19.13 | jelly | ^_^ |
| 15:19.22 | ChuckNoris | but I'd never saying it with that intonation |
| 15:19.32 | jelly | you can tell them that in PM tho! |
| 15:19.39 | kiki` | maybe im out for a chat |
| 15:19.40 | ChuckNoris | tru |
| 15:19.48 | kiki` | who can tell |
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| 15:19.56 | ChuckNoris | ? |
| 15:20.32 | jelly | maybe it's Sunday |
| 15:20.35 | kiki` | all is good. |
| 15:20.45 | kiki` | thanks droog |
| 15:21.38 | ChuckNoris | thanks for asking your question tho kiki` im new to linux so I learned somthing that is going to help me while working on the services I'm setting up. |
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| 15:23.20 | babilen | ChuckNoris, kiki`: http://paste.debian.net/908862/ might come in handy |
| 15:23.43 | ChuckNoris | I just spent five hours trying to figure out why my ssh tunnel was not letting me access my web congfig page only to realize that I was setting up a tunnel to port 80 when my config page uses https and I already knew https uses port 443 so I should have never made that mistake |
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| 15:24.59 | ChuckNoris | babilen, what am i looking at? |
| 15:25.07 | kiki` | babilen: welly welly well |
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| 15:26.39 | ChuckNoris | bash script? |
| 15:26.42 | babilen | ChuckNoris, kiki`: It produces output such as "/usr/sbin/sshd on port 22/tcp from package openssh-server (version 1:7.4p1-5)" |
| 15:26.55 | babilen | Bash script indeed |
| 15:27.11 | ChuckNoris | thanks breh, did you make that? |
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| 15:36.35 | unborn | guys how to reset keyboard to make my superkey works again? |
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| 15:38.08 | jelly | babilen: with the candlestick? |
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| 15:43.25 | jelly | no, line 28 is indented wrong |
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| 15:47.06 | unborn | anyone know how to reset keyboard to amke superkey with shortcuts working again? when I do dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration it gives me this error: update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults |
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| 16:11.59 | unborn | do I have to re-install whole system to make it working again or there is a bug in debian for this? |
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| 16:17.09 | mtn | unborn: which version of debian? |
| 16:17.20 | unborn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.20 | unborn | ** Uptime: 15m 58s ** |
| 16:17.31 | unborn | mtn: ^^^ |
| 16:17.50 | mtn | unborn: ok, an update did not do this, so what did you do to cause this change? figure that out and reverse it |
| 16:17.51 | abrotman | unborn: which DE? Since I assume you mean shortcuts in your DE |
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| 16:19.30 | unborn | abrotman: nope.. keyboard mapping is wrong.. it does register windows keyboard as mutli keyboard so windows key + L for example will not lock computer at all |
| 16:19.51 | abrotman | in what? at the console? KDE? Gnome? Ratpoison? |
| 16:19.55 | unborn | mtn: not sure.. it was working 3 days ago but suddenly stopped.. keyboard is fine |
| 16:20.09 | unborn | abrotman: im gnome |
| 16:20.45 | unborn | also dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration command gives me error: update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults |
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| 16:21.42 | unborn | I did try to edit /etc/default/keyboard but that does not work as well |
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| 16:22.25 | unborn | on my another laptop windows key works and its correctly map - so why I cannot do that on another system? |
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| 16:23.08 | unborn | or if someone could point me at right directions? |
| 16:23.36 | unborn | also regional settings seems to does not give me anything else then english uk.. |
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| 16:27.41 | unborn | abrotman: mtn https://cdn.topfreelancer.co.uk/tmp/keyboard-wrong.png - the key in left (compose-compose) should be Super L |
| 16:27.54 | unborn | and I cannot get it to work no matter what I do |
| 16:28.25 | unborn | also no menu key on my laptop, no super R key on my laptop |
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| 16:31.47 | contrapunctus | I'd like to install Debian on a flash drive and have that run on computers with BIOS as well as UEFI. How may one achieve this? |
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| 16:37.34 | john_rambo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:39.07 | thanatos-inc_ | john_rambo: it's not stuck. Just telling you about new security certificates that were added. Press q to continue |
| 16:39.15 | zykotick9 | john_rambo: 1) try pressing "q" 2) ask in #ubuntu if this is ubuntu. |
| 16:39.18 | Pr0t3us | john_rambo uninstall ubuntu, install debian ;p |
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| 16:39.49 | john_rambo | This is Debian Jessie ..Thanks it worked |
| 16:40.05 | thanatos-inc_ | friggin RDUs jumping at person for using ubuntu pastebin while ironically not recognising recent debian update announcement :D made my day |
| 16:40.26 | Pr0t3us | recent update? |
| 16:40.46 | john_rambo | Is there a pastebin specifically for Debian ? |
| 16:40.49 | Pr0t3us | i will admit ive been in my own world for like 6 months |
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| 16:41.01 | thanatos-inc_ | john_rambo: maybe. who cares. it's a pastebin. |
| 16:41.17 | john_rambo | Correct |
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| 16:41.50 | jhutchins | Johann: paste.debian.net, but you could use it for anything. |
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| 16:43.06 | thanatos-inc_ | Pr0t3us: the log does say "ca-certificates (20141019+deb8u2) stable", so... |
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| 16:50.06 | contrapunctus | I'd like to install Debian on a flash drive and have that run on computers with BIOS as well as UEFI. How may one achieve this? |
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| 17:15.18 | petn-randall | contrapunctus: That works out of the box. |
| 17:15.41 | petn-randall | contrapunctus: Just make sure that you have compat mode deactivated if you want to boot via UEFI. |
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| 17:21.09 | unborn | okay, so full system reinstall is required, there is no way to restore default keyboard settings in debian |
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| 17:25.13 | at0m | unborn: why not try dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration |
| 17:25.24 | at0m | oh you did |
| 17:25.26 | unborn | at0m: that is giving me an error |
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| 17:27.20 | unborn | at0m: https://cdn.topfreelancer.co.uk/tmp/error.txt |
| 17:27.27 | unborn | seems a bug in debian |
| 17:28.31 | guavas | Hello all. After I tried installing task-print-server in debian jessie I started having a lot of errors. This is the output of install -f: https://paste.debian.net/908874/ |
| 17:29.12 | guavas | I tried removing all the packages which give errors, all good, but when I install them again the error is there again. Not sure what I'm missing here |
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| 17:31.38 | egrain | is there a way to block dmesg for users? |
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| 17:35.15 | steakwipe | there must be, i'm pretty sure i have to sudo for it |
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| 17:36.33 | jelly | egrain: amusingly it's blocked with jessie-backports and stretch kernels |
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| 17:37.02 | steakwipe | woo! TIL |
| 17:37.06 | steakwipe | but, weird |
| 17:37.47 | egrain | well, i only have jessie running. |
| 17:37.59 | egrain | and i've been warned not to mix repositories. |
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| 17:40.01 | jelly | egrain: if "chmod 400 /proc/kmsg" doesn't work for you, you can try using the kernel from jessie-backports |
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| 17:40.55 | jelly | egrain: /msg dpkg bdo kernel |
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| 17:41.38 | egrain | okay. |
| 17:41.43 | jelly | if your system requires any non-free firmware you'll have to match it to kernel version, so, get that from jessie-backports as well |
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| 17:44.49 | Tom01 | Does Debian 9 still hang with no Monitor connected? |
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| 17:47.23 | nkuttler | Tom01: what? |
| 17:47.57 | Tom01 | nkuttler: Debian 8 does not boot without a Monitor. |
| 17:48.10 | nkuttler | Tom01: why not? |
| 17:48.19 | Tom01 | because of a bug |
| 17:48.33 | nkuttler | Tom01: how do you know there is abug? |
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| 17:48.42 | zykotick9 | nkuttler: version # is changing? do you mean stable or testing? |
| 17:48.45 | Tom01 | because it does jnot boot |
| 17:48.50 | sh00p | i've had similar problems, that was on a haswell board |
| 17:49.06 | zykotick9 | nkuttler: sorry. Tom01 see my message above. |
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| 17:49.17 | nkuttler | Tom01: that doesn't make any sehse |
| 17:49.30 | Tom01 | nkuttler: it is a known error |
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| 17:49.44 | nkuttler | Tom01: which one? |
| 17:49.55 | n4dir | you saying there are running no servers out there on debian 8 ? |
| 17:50.02 | egrain | jelly, /proc/kmes is already 400. so i guess the other kernel it is. |
| 17:50.14 | Tom01 | nkuttler: I want to know, if Debian 9 boots without a Monitor connected. |
| 17:50.20 | nkuttler | Tom01: it certainly does |
| 17:50.33 | Tom01 | that is good |
| 17:51.20 | RM982 | hi, can I get some help configuring xorg? Have some annoying horizontal lines while reproducing videos, debian testing hardware is Intel HD530 |
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| 17:54.19 | jelly | Tom01: I've got a dozen virtual machines with debian 8 that cannot have any monitor connected, ever, and they boot |
| 17:55.20 | jelly | so if it's a known issue, maybe it has a known workaround |
| 17:56.33 | Tom01 | The Virtual Machine is emulating a Monitor. |
| 17:57.36 | n4dir | again. Tom01 how do servers handle that problem? |
| 17:57.37 | nkuttler | Tom01: what is the bug's number? |
| 17:57.58 | egrain | how about kernel.dmesg_restrict = 1 in /etc/sysctl.d/50-kernel.security.conf? for restricting dmesg for users, i mean. |
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| 18:03.28 | TeddieeB | I am about to download the DVD Install Image of Debian. I am using the page on the debian website: https://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ |
| 18:03.37 | Tom01 | n4dir: They are probably using a virtual machine, which boots. |
| 18:04.10 | TeddieeB | The Link for AMD64 is bad. it's going to version 8.6, the server doesn't have a folder for 8.6 but DOES for 8.7 |
| 18:04.15 | n4dir | all of them? |
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| 18:04.28 | TeddieeB | wanted to check to be sure that was the way it was supposed to be. and report the bad links |
| 18:05.08 | TomTomTosch | that happens on every point release. will be fixed soon. |
| 18:06.28 | TeddieeB | okay, I figured so. but wanted to be safe before proceeding. thank you TomTomTosch |
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| 18:12.20 | gameon | hi guys |
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| 18:19.17 | [ANDREI] | :) |
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| 18:21.30 | gameon | I've downloaded Debian 8 iso and installed it on Virtual Box and that worked fine. But what I really wanted to do, was, to install it on my very old laptop and use Debian as a server. That laptop, has no HDD. So, what I did, was, I burned Debian to DVD and I fired it up, plugged in a pendrive and installed Debian like that onto that pendrive. Debian found pendrive itself and it all looked, like it worked. But it didn't. My laptop said "no |
| 18:21.30 | gameon | bootable device". So I went back to windows, used universal installer. It took ages, but after it finisched (and it didn't give me the option to make it persistant for example), and I plugged into my newer laptop (just to see if it isn't hardware problem this time), it showed me options of installing it. What I wanted to achive was to install it on a pendrive without GUI. What can I do? Where did it go wrong? BTW my old laptop, is 32bit. |
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| 18:22.20 | JPT | Perhaps make sure that your laptop is able to see and boot from that usb stick through its own bios. |
| 18:22.39 | JPT | Check your bios settings concerning usb devices, boot devices and boot order |
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| 18:23.37 | unborn | yay keyboard fixed.. man |
| 18:23.58 | gameon | JPT: it's done. Like I said, it offered me (on my new laptop) to install it. On the old one, I've set to to go with the usb first and it said "no bootable device. |
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| 18:25.09 | JPT | gameon: Try the following: Use dd to copy the whole debian bootable iso to your usb device and see if you laptop can boot that |
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| 18:25.24 | awal1 | gameon, which image exactly have you burned ? |
| 18:25.24 | JPT | If not, it will probably not boot an installed debian from usb aswell |
| 18:26.10 | gameon | awal1: this one: debian-8.6.0-i386-DVD-1.iso |
| 18:26.49 | awal1 | ok, fine; I tought you are trying to use amd64 for a 32 bit machine |
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| 18:27.50 | gameon | First things first. What I did: 1. Laptop has no hardrive. 2. Ran from DVD 3. Installed to pendrive that way. Should it work? |
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| 18:32.07 | paul_grozav | Hello, what can I do to propose to include this driver in the debian non-free firmware? https://github.com/anthonywong/rtl8723bs . Or could we include it in the default iso? Is there any plan to include it? It's Realtek 8723bs WiFi. |
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| 18:33.17 | contrapunctus | paul_grozav: I doubt it'll ever be in the default iso, if it's nonfree |
| 18:34.37 | paul_grozav | contrapunctus: I don't know if it's free or non free. What can we do to include it in nonfree? |
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| 18:37.54 | n4dir | ! rfp |
| 18:37.55 | dpkg | Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, the section on that page "Adding new entries with "reportbug"" is a good place to start. Technically, a RFP is a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: ", ask me about <wnpp>. The best way of getting software packaged is to do it yourself: ask me about <nmg>. |
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| 18:40.57 | seoner | A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session or you may have just clicked a menu or some application just decided to get focus. |
| 18:41.00 | seoner | A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session or you may have just clicked a menu or some application just decided to get focus. |
| 18:41.03 | seoner | what is this? |
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| 18:43.26 | gameon | First things first. What I did: 1. Laptop has no hardrive. 2. Ran from DVD 3. Installed to pendrive that way. Should it work? Anyone? |
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| 18:44.04 | n4dir | if the laptop boots from USB, why shouldn't it work? |
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| 18:45.00 | gameon | n4dir: Like I said earlier, it says "no bootable device" no that same laptop. |
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| 18:46.31 | gameon | What I would like to know in the first place, is if that way of installing it, should work? |
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| 18:50.24 | cybrNaut | he came in here after a tracking ball laser killed his vision |
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| 19:00.04 | jhutchins | 1firmware iso |
| 19:00.16 | jhutchins | !firmware iinstaller |
| 19:00.23 | jhutchins | !firmware |
| 19:00.23 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
| 19:00.55 | jhutchins | paul_grozav: /msg dpkg installer firmware for a solution. |
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| 19:02.30 | n4dir | gameon: are you sure you installed grub to the correct device when installing debian to the pendrive? My guess would be that has gone wrong |
| 19:03.09 | pcipassthroughat | hi, im trying to install debian on my system but i cant get it to boot after install. it stops when it cannot load my gpu drivers and my network driver. i can install the network driver during install but it still wont boot because of my gpus, any help? |
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| 19:03.32 | gameon | n4dir: yes, I picked the penddrive to install grub on. |
| 19:03.33 | n4dir | i think per default grub will get installed to the first harddrive (or such). So to put it on the USB stick, you will have to point the installer to the location (device) |
| 19:03.51 | n4dir | and it didn't boot from a laptop which sure boots from USB? that's odd |
| 19:04.07 | jhutchins | n4dir: You don't install grub on a boot iso. |
| 19:04.23 | n4dir | where else would you put it, jhutchins? |
| 19:04.51 | gameon | Like I said, first things first: should it work like that? Simple yes or no. |
| 19:04.57 | jhutchins | n4dir: You would write the installer image to the device. It includes a bootloader, but it might not be grub. |
| 19:05.14 | jhutchins | n4dir: Most installers run isolinux, not the native distro. |
| 19:05.30 | n4dir | jhutchins: the question is how to install debian on a usb, not how to put the installation iso on a usb |
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| 19:06.30 | n4dir | gameon: i got you right on that? |
| 19:07.00 | gameon | n4dir: what do u mean |
| 19:07.00 | pcipassthroughat | n4dir, couldnt you just dd the hard drive to the USB after its installed on the hard drive? |
| 19:07.37 | jhutchins | n4dir: Ah, well, then yes you need grub. I've done that, you probably won't be happy with a non-optimized installation. |
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| 19:07.48 | n4dir | gameon: i mean you want to use a DVD as an installation medium, but install debian *on* the USB stick |
| 19:08.06 | jhutchins | n4dir: There was an earlier discussion where somebody couldn't boot to an installer image. |
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| 19:08.14 | n4dir | pcipassthroughat: i think sure you can. Have to edit fstab and a bit more |
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| 19:08.29 | n4dir | jhutchins: i see. |
| 19:08.36 | pcipassthroughat | n4dir, thats what i had to do to move raspbian to a usb |
| 19:08.52 | pcipassthroughat | any assistance on my inquiry? |
| 19:09.13 | n4dir | pcipassthroughat: back then i moved installations around with rsync, sometimes from pc1 VBoxinstallation to pc2 VBoxinstallation. |
| 19:09.16 | jhutchins | n4dir: Use UUID for fstab & grub |
| 19:09.35 | pcipassthroughat | n4dir, thats true, almost forgot about rsync |
| 19:09.40 | n4dir | jhutchins: yeah, but you still have to edit /etc/udev.d/rules/network or such |
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| 19:10.00 | gameon | n4dir: yes. Laptop with no HDD. Debian8 burned to DVD. Fired up from that DVD. Installation from that DVD (as live DVD) to a pendrive which should be like a hard drive. |
| 19:10.01 | n4dir | jhutchins: anyway, it's possible and easy. |
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| 19:10.52 | n4dir | gameon: the bad news, i wouldn't know why it doesn't boot if grub is installed to the usb-stick *and the laptop can boot from usb. No idea, sorry. double check both |
| 19:11.02 | jhutchins | gameon: Yes, installing to a USB does work, you can run a conventional laptop or desktop off of one, but a standard installation will run very slow. |
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| 19:11.22 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, unless it's 3.0, but even then no where near native |
| 19:11.27 | n4dir | and for the other laptop which doesn't boot from usb: use a CD which holds grub. |
| 19:11.36 | n4dir | ^^ sure clusterfuck ... |
| 19:11.51 | jhutchins | gameon: I think I've hit a few older systems where you could boot from a USB hard drive, but not a USB flash drive (no idea how it could tell the difference). |
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| 19:12.36 | gameon | I'll run a test and try to install it again on an old laptop, but try to run it on a newer one. |
| 19:12.45 | gameon | It will take a while. |
| 19:12.52 | n4dir | good luck. |
| 19:12.59 | pcipassthroughat | any1 able to assist with debian not booting (fails at gpu/network drivers because they require firmware-linux-nonfree) |
| 19:13.06 | jhutchins | gameon: Debian Live has customizable images that are meant to run from optical ROMs or flash drives, http://pendrivelinux.com has information on what you need to modify to get a decent response speed when booting from something like that. |
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| 19:13.39 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: It should continue to boot. |
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| 19:14.23 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, it seems to freeze after advising that the drivers did not load. i have let it sit there for over 10 min and no changes |
| 19:14.23 | Artemis3 | pcipassthroughat, the good stuff is hidden here: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 19:14.40 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: You should be able to boot to console mode even if the GPU isn't working. |
| 19:14.45 | n4dir | not sure if i would call that "good stuff" |
| 19:14.58 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: Black screen? |
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| 19:15.30 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, it stays at the screen with all of the text(?) so yes black with boot up text |
| 19:15.47 | jhutchins | Hm, that's a new one. |
| 19:16.26 | n4dir | i recall where systemd failed to boot with network problems, but it is too long ago (failed might mean: took very long or didn't boot at all , i don't remember). Not much help, as too vague |
| 19:16.33 | pcipassthroughat | why not n4dir? ive been considering that as a solution but havent gotten that desperate yet |
| 19:16.37 | n4dir | you could use a liveCD, chroot and install the missing firmware |
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| 19:16.57 | Artemis3 | or just boot 8.7.0-live+nonfree |
| 19:17.04 | pcipassthroughat | but wont the install go away on reboot n4dir ? |
| 19:17.14 | n4dir | if non-free means good stuff .... well: it may be necessary sometimes. but good? |
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| 19:17.40 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: The installer ran successfully? |
| 19:17.40 | n4dir | install firmware in a chroot? pcipassthroughat? |
| 19:17.46 | pcipassthroughat | n4dir, Artemis3 meant "good stuff" as in what i need currently |
| 19:17.54 | Artemis3 | its evil from rms point of view, good for users needing solution now, the people should actually research their hardware and make sure they have open drivers. |
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| 19:18.11 | Artemis3 | but thats another story. |
| 19:18.24 | n4dir | evil from debian point of view too, else non-free would be part of debian |
| 19:18.30 | pcipassthroughat | n4dir, not sure i understand you entirely. you stated start live cd then use chroot to install the drivers. unless im misunderstanding chroot, it will still install it to the live cd that is wiped on reboot? |
| 19:18.44 | jhutchins | n4dir: That's not why non-free isn't a default repo. |
| 19:18.46 | n4dir | no. chroot will chroot to the installation on harddisk |
| 19:18.52 | n4dir | jhutchins: but? |
| 19:18.55 | Artemis3 | well either that or use another distro n4dir which brings the evil blobs already. |
| 19:19.08 | jhutchins | !non-free |
| 19:19.09 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 19:19.28 | gameon | Here's another problem. I plugged in the pendrive to that old laptop with that Debian8, that worked on a new laptop (but offered installation options, instead of system itself) and again it says "no bootable device. Is it possible, that for some reason, my laptop is too old? I don't remember what it has, but ubuntu 10 and above were running on it. |
| 19:19.52 | jhutchins | n4dir: It's not a moral judgement, it's a choice of licensing, so people can avoid restrictive licenses. |
| 19:20.22 | n4dir | yes, gameon, that is possible. old laptops, very old, don't boot from usb. you will need to put grub on a CD in that case |
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| 19:20.39 | n4dir | jhutchins: funny you don't complain if non-free is the good stuff, as a moral judgement |
| 19:20.40 | jhutchins | Missing firmware should not halt a boot like that. Missing network firmware just means you don't have that network interfaces, missing graphics firmware just means you get no or reduced res graphics. |
| 19:20.51 | pcipassthroughat | n4dir, so chroot will install in the live cd (but will eventually make it to the install) then i do the normal install and it should be good on reboot? |
| 19:21.06 | jhutchins | n4dir: That's because I understood what he actually meant. |
| 19:21.22 | n4dir | no, chroot will install to wherever you chroote to, usually the installation on hard-disk |
| 19:21.22 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, thats why im stuck and feel stupid lol i've never had it not boot because of drivers before |
| 19:21.35 | pcipassthroughat | n4dir, ok i will man chroot, ty for the tip |
| 19:21.50 | n4dir | use a searchengine. chroot is straight forward |
| 19:21.53 | pcipassthroughat | do you mean install debian and then afterwards use a livecd? |
| 19:21.55 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: The live CD will allow you to boot, you can then mount certain directories and chroot to the installation, where you can install packages including non-free firmware. |
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| 19:22.11 | n4dir | !chroot |
| 19:22.11 | dpkg | To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target". |
| 19:22.17 | n4dir | well, that was easy |
| 19:22.24 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: Do I understand that the installer completed but now it won't boot? |
| 19:22.53 | jhutchins | n4dir: Be aware that there are other uses for chroot. |
| 19:22.55 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, correct |
| 19:23.00 | n4dir | jhutchins: sure. |
| 19:23.36 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, it starts the boot process, gets near the end, then stops on the network driver (if i install the network driver during the debian install it will then stop at the gpu driver) |
| 19:24.02 | pcipassthroughat | it is a properly separated/partitioned dual boot and fedora 25 (the other OS) runs perfectly |
| 19:24.03 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: It's unusual for it to hang on the text screen. Unfortunately, the last thing that displays is the last thing that successfully completed, not what caused the hang. |
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| 19:25.33 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, do you think chroot and installing the drivers will help? i have tried 3 different debian isos and they are the only distros that have issues. ubuntu (eww), linux mint (eww), arch, gentoo, fedora, centos, opensuse all work |
| 19:26.13 | pcipassthroughat | that's why it chafes my hide, debian derivatives install and boot no problem... |
| 19:26.17 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: Unfortunately, documentation hasn't caught up with the systemd migration. You can try adding boot options, I'm not sure which ones still work. There is noacpi, noapic, nodm, and target=multi-user - you can try them together or separately to see if you can get a console boot, then look for errors in the log. The fact that the installer runs proves Debian can work on your hardware. |
| 19:26.39 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: It's a matter of kernel/module parameters. |
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| 19:27.24 | n4dir | "Unfortunately, documentation hasn't caught up with the systemd migration." qft |
| 19:27.27 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, i can nomodeset to bypass the gpus after the nic is installed during install. |
| 19:27.39 | pcipassthroughat | havent tried that yet |
| 19:27.44 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: Does that work? |
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| 19:28.12 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, going to try that next (after some input on pci passthrough issue since im using the system we are talking about) |
| 19:28.31 | pcipassthroughat | if that doesnt work ill try the cd with nonfree |
| 19:28.35 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: You should be able to tell from dmesg | less what kms driver it's trying to use, check your chipset, install the necessary stuff. |
| 19:28.47 | pcipassthroughat | kms? |
| 19:29.05 | jhutchins | Kernel Mode Switching, modeset |
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| 19:29.25 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: THat usually just disables video, it doesn't hang. |
| 19:29.34 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: Any idea what graphics you have? |
| 19:29.44 | gameon | thanks, bye |
| 19:30.06 | pcipassthroughat | i have a asus 270x 2GB and an nvidia gtx960 |
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| 19:34.29 | pcipassthroughat | thanks for the suggestions jhutchins, n4dir, and Artemis3. going to try them now |
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| 19:36.28 | pcipassthroughat | maybe you can help with one more thing. when adding pci-stub.ids to my grub and then updating grub, it doesnt seem to do anything |
| 19:37.04 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: Sorry, doing no good at finding out what supports the 960s, except the current nvidia driver dkms package does. |
| 19:37.27 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: Or the current proprietary from Novell. |
| 19:38.24 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: I am really not very good with current boot systems. I used to get deep into the boot process on odd hardware, these days I try not to take systems down - ever. They're all headless servers. |
| 19:38.38 | pcipassthroughat | thats the issue, the 960 needs to be ignored because im going to pass it through to a vm |
| 19:38.56 | jhutchins | In fact I need to update this system and experiment with grub a bit. |
| 19:39.15 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, im finding out now that my grub my be f'd |
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| 19:39.33 | gravy | would anyone be able to help me install a driver for a yagi wifi ant i have? its linuz compatiable and i have the dirvers on a cd, but im ney to debian and im not sure how to go about installing them |
| 19:39.48 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: If you're getting boot messages then it's already handed off to systemd. |
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| 19:40.22 | jhutchins | gravy: Does it have instructions for installing on linux, or are they for windows? |
| 19:40.26 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, the grub issue im having is it not recognizing the pci-stub.ids=****:**** in the /etc/sysconfig/grub |
| 19:40.35 | zw | Hi, small question. When doing a dist-upgrade I see libtevent0 [0.9.25-0+deb8u1] (0.9.28-0+deb8u1 Debian-Security:8/stable [amd64]), a package that needs to be upgraded for security issues |
| 19:40.40 | zw | But it is not vulnerable itself |
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| 19:41.01 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: Possibly because they should be in /etc/defaults/grub instead? |
| 19:41.05 | gravy | jhutchins: the only instructions i can find are for windows but there is a folder on the cd with linux drivers |
| 19:41.12 | zw | Why is it suggested to be upgraded then? It has a dep on samba, but that is not installed |
| 19:41.17 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: /etc/sysconfig/grub sounds redhattish. |
| 19:41.25 | pcipassthroughat | this is fedora 25 |
| 19:41.30 | pcipassthroughat | shh |
| 19:41.31 | jhutchins | gravy: No README in the folder? |
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| 19:41.51 | pcipassthroughat | ignore that jhutchins |
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| 19:42.11 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: Dude, that's a totally different system. Different base, different requirements, different kernel options, different boot options. |
| 19:42.21 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: You've just wasted a bunch of time. |
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| 19:43.45 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, that was a misstype, my questions in regards to passthrough are for both debian/fedora (since the instructions are near identical) but the questions i asked up until this point were all about my debian failing to boot (hence be being in fedora 25 currently) |
| 19:43.55 | zw | Anyone in for my question? :) |
| 19:44.08 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, sorry for the confusion, but i did not waste your time and u've been a huge help |
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| 19:45.20 | jhutchins | zw: Try aptitude why libevent0 |
| 19:45.48 | gravy | jhutchins: in the linux folder there is 5 compressed files a firmware file and a web ui. 2 of the files have instructions with readme files not sure which one to use |
| 19:45.51 | n4dir | zw you could try apt-listchanges or what jhutchins just proposed, depending what your question is. If it was me i would upgrade it and call it a day |
| 19:46.02 | zw | aptitude why libevent0 |
| 19:46.04 | zw | E: No package named "libevent0" exists. :) |
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| 19:46.28 | pcipassthroughat | just an fyi, dont ever buy a mobo with a realtek 8168.....worst purchase in life |
| 19:46.38 | jhutchins | !realtek |
| 19:46.38 | dpkg | Realtek is a developer of semiconductors. Realtek Ethernet controllers are supported by the 8139too, 8139cp and <r8169> drivers in the mainline Linux kernel. For support of Realtek-based wireless LAN devices, ask me about <rtl819x> (802.11n) or <rtl818x> (802.11b/g). |
| 19:46.58 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: Yeah, they have less than $3 of hardware in 'em. |
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| 19:47.43 | jhutchins | 1alt sysrq |
| 19:47.47 | jhutchins | !alt sysrq |
| 19:47.56 | jhutchins | Nope. |
| 19:48.25 | jhutchins | pcipassthroughat: You might read up on troubleshooting with Alt-SysRq - I only know it exists, but sometimes you can figure out a hang. |
| 19:48.45 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, thats sad. its the worst part of my system. i just got into virtualization and got lucky that my cpu and mobo support amd-vi and iommu. only downside is the damn rtl8168 |
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| 19:49.05 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, ill check that out too. organizing all the tips then ill be rebooting |
| 19:50.16 | jhutchins | ,v libevent-1 |
| 19:50.17 | judd | No package named 'libevent-1' was found in amd64. |
| 19:50.19 | jhutchins | ,v libevent |
| 19:50.20 | judd | No package named 'libevent' was found in amd64. |
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| 19:50.39 | jhutchins | ,v libevent-1.4 |
| 19:50.40 | judd | No package named 'libevent-1.4' was found in amd64. |
| 19:50.56 | jhutchins | ,v libevent-1.4-2 |
| 19:50.57 | judd | No package named 'libevent-1.4-2' was found in amd64. |
| 19:51.12 | jhutchins | Bah. Debian package naming gets ridiculous sometimes. |
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| 19:58.11 | n4dir | ,v libtevent0 |
| 19:58.12 | judd | Package: libtevent0 on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.9.16-1; wheezy-backports: 0.9.21-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.9.28-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 0.9.28-0+deb8u1; stretch: 0.9.31-1; sid: 0.9.31-1 |
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| 20:04.42 | jhutchins | Ok, grub's menu is a bit strange these ays, but I figured out boot options. Old init style options should work. |
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| 20:11.00 | n4dir | chroot i get perl warnings about LANG and LC_ALL not set. Is there a quick solution? http://sprunge.us/YOag |
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| 20:14.36 | n4dir | export LC_ALL=C LANGUAGE=C LANG=C ; from here: https://wiki.debian.org/Multistrap/Environment ; for chroot do i put it in .bashrc or in .profile? |
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| 20:16.44 | missmbob | n4dir: if you have locales installed do dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 20:17.10 | n4dir | missmbob: did that, no luck. |
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| 20:17.34 | n4dir | export does it, but i don't know where to put it. |
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| 20:17.47 | n4dir | just put it in both, profile and bashrc of root |
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| 20:20.44 | DK2 | i have problems with installing debian via pxe |
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| 20:21.06 | DK2 | it says it cant mount ext4 at / |
| 20:21.24 | DK2 | dmesg says smth like: unknown symbol setattr_prepare |
| 20:21.41 | DK2 | kernel is 3.16.0-4 |
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| 20:22.34 | pcipassthroughat | jhutchins, nomodeset worked, thanks for reminding me about the startup options |
| 20:22.39 | pcipassthroughat | inserts foot in mouth |
| 20:23.03 | pcipassthroughat | \0/ |
| 20:23.52 | DK2 | any1 has an idea? |
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| 20:26.29 | DK2 | what is the latest kernel for 8.7? |
| 20:26.50 | n4dir | , linux-image |
| 20:26.58 | n4dir | ,v linux-image |
| 20:26.59 | judd | No package named 'linux-image' was found in amd64. |
| 20:27.02 | n4dir | damnit |
| 20:27.16 | missmbob | ,kernels |
| 20:27.18 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.2-2); stretch: 4.8.0-2-686-pae (4.8.15-2); jessie-backports: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.8.11-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.39-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.36-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-1) |
| 20:27.24 | n4dir | anyway, the one in stable is the same for all of stable. the latest is the one in debian-backports |
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| 20:39.20 | awal1 | big ugly title bar |
| 20:39.49 | awal1 | nicer using greybird / numix themes |
| 20:41.26 | awal1 | how that is called, having title bar integrated with the apps windows? |
| 20:41.48 | awal1 | like nautilus and all gnome apps? |
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| 20:43.07 | awal1 | I mean that bar integrating close, minimize buttons and tool bar |
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| 20:45.01 | awal1 | stretch with mate as default would be better |
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| 21:23.20 | Agafnd | so I got a wacom intutos tablet |
| 21:23.40 | Agafnd | I'm reading https://wiki.debian.org/WacomTablets, but /dev/input/wacom doesn't seem to exist |
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| 21:25.07 | Agafnd | I see it when I lsusb |
| 21:25.14 | Agafnd | but I can't do anything else with it. |
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| 21:30.16 | TeddieeB | okay, so I'm asking again because I'm paranoid... I downloaded the 8.7.0 DVD ISO via Bit Torrent. using this page: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.7.0/amd64/bt-dvd/ |
| 21:30.33 | TeddieeB | the md5sum of my DVD matches the one listed in the md5sums file on that page |
| 21:30.44 | TeddieeB | but this ISO has a volumeID of HACK1 |
| 21:30.57 | TeddieeB | this makes me very uneasy |
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| 21:33.39 | abrotman | TeddieeB: if you're on broadband, and it's only one install, use the netinst |
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| 21:35.04 | Artemis3 | TeddieeB, thats some pretty name, in wonder if someone was being funny... |
| 21:35.36 | dTal | TeddieeB: what about the other hashes? |
| 21:35.40 | pingouin | hello #debian |
| 21:36.01 | TeddieeB | I'll take a look on the other hashes. I was being lazy in running the shasums |
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| 21:37.54 | m8nx | Hello everyone. May anyone point me to the config file for changing colors in xfce4, to be more specific- the panel volume slider. My problem is that the handle on the volumeslider is the same color as the background on the volumeslider. Same problem for the slider in panel preferences/appearance. I'm on Debian8/XFCE4 Thanks. |
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| 21:41.00 | awal1 | m8nx, tango theme in use? |
| 21:41.08 | awal1 | tango icon theme |
| 21:41.38 | TeddieeB | I ran an sha1sum and an sha512 sum and both come up matching, I don't know how to verify the sum files with the .sign file though. so I didn't verify the sum files |
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| 21:42.44 | awal1 | I dont have such issue with xfce default (xfce gtk theme + tango icon theme) |
| 21:42.46 | m8nx | no i use "dark-spook" theme with "vibrancy" icons |
| 21:43.01 | awal1 | dark-spook? |
| 21:43.18 | awal1 | ,v dark-spook-theme |
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| 21:43.19 | judd | No package named 'dark-spook-theme' was found in amd64. |
| 21:43.28 | m8nx | yes, downloaded from xfcelook.org or something |
| 21:43.50 | dTal | TeddieeB: did the SHA512 end in "beeb1670" ? |
| 21:44.18 | TeddieeB | yes it did |
| 21:44.18 | awal1 | m8nx, my guess is that you have to edit that theme, work on it |
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| 21:48.34 | m8nx | yes, thank you awall, theme dont change global gtk2 or 3 settings? I'm confused of how this work because I cant find config files in the theme folder thats make sense, no color hex-codes or nothing specified that I understand at least. |
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| 21:51.51 | m8nx | I' will try to find some support on the theme creators email, if this is the wrong place to ask, thank you for your time. |
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| 21:53.35 | awal1 | m8nx, good idea |
| 21:54.26 | awal1 | I'm not familiar with editing themes stuff, sorry. I just use mate-themes everywhere :P |
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| 21:55.04 | m8nx | np awall :) |
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| 21:59.05 | solrize | 8.7 is released but all the cd images are 8.6.... will that be updated soon? |
| 22:00.04 | awal1 | sure |
| 22:00.06 | TeddieeB | Solrize, you should be able to download the 8.7 images. just the links on the site haven't been updated. the directory is http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.7.0/ |
| 22:00.31 | TeddieeB | though I was asking regarding that matter myself and if those images are proper |
| 22:00.54 | solrize | oh nice, they weren't there last night. now the 8.6 links are broken |
| 22:01.04 | solrize | https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ from here |
| 22:01.13 | solrize | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.6.0/amd64/iso-cd/ = 404 |
| 22:01.14 | awal1 | solrize, http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ |
| 22:01.20 | solrize | thanks |
| 22:01.30 | solrize | just mentioning that page has broken links |
| 22:02.52 | solrize | ahh nice |
| 22:04.08 | solrize | no bittorrent seeds for i386 xfce live cd yet oh well |
| 22:04.26 | dTal | and "HACK1" is definitely the ISO name? because that's what I'm seeing too |
| 22:04.32 | dTal | and it does seem odd |
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| 22:05.42 | solrize | hack1???? |
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| 22:06.04 | dTal | or "HACK 1" whatever |
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| 22:06.30 | Agafnd | 'hack' isn't *necessarily* a bad term... |
| 22:07.12 | dTal | no but in conjunction with the fact that they're usually titled, you know, "Debian <version> <etc>", it seems... weird |
| 22:07.49 | Agafnd | yeah definitely |
| 22:07.54 | Agafnd | bored dev? :P |
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| 22:08.24 | TeddieeB | yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to update my keyring to do the gpg check. need to learn to do this stuff anyways. but yes. the ISO name is fine, but the VolumeID is HACK1 |
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| 22:09.20 | TeddieeB | I was actually assuming it would be a simple mistake on the bundler's end. something that they were using on their end that got passed through. but I would like to see it verified that the ISO's are clean :) |
| 22:09.29 | dTal | I cheated, all I did was pipe curl into strings so as to avoid downloading the whole thing |
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| 22:09.43 | TeddieeB | :P |
| 22:11.34 | solrize | you could look at the md5sum list? |
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| 22:12.24 | hiro | hello, somebody here who knows about the libvirt packages? in particular libvirt-bin? |
| 22:12.38 | hiro | i wonder why there are two copies of /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/default.xml |
| 22:12.53 | dTal | solrize: the hashes apparently check out from multiple locatinos so it's not a MITM thing |
| 22:13.10 | TeddieeB | i did, the image I got matches md5sum, sha1sum, and sha512sums as listed on the server. I am trying to sort out how to verify the gpg signature. cuz I haven't figured that out yet. but the sums match what the server gives as what should be the sums |
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| 22:13.37 | hiro | one owned by libvirt-bin package in /etc (but unused by my running virsh instances), and one in /var/lib/libvirt/network/default.xml, that seems to be the currently applied one, but hard to find and not belonging to any package it seems |
| 22:14.13 | solrize | what disk is that dTal ? |
| 22:14.37 | solrize | and where do you see HACK1? |
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| 22:15.23 | xKoren | Hey everyone. I'm having an odd problem with a mdadm software raid in an debian box. Apparently the primary disk (sda) has failed and the machine won't boot up from the second one. (grub2 is installed on both hard disks). Is there any way to get it to boot from sdb? I have no way to access bios/grub. Only to a "rescue" system, that i can boot via tftp from my provider |
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| 22:15.36 | dTal | debian-8.7.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and I personally see it in the output of curl -r 0-99999 http://saimei.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/8.7.0/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-8.7.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso | strings | less |
| 22:15.56 | dTal | but TeddieeB has downloaded the whole thing |
| 22:15.59 | solrize | hmm i didn't see it in 8.6 |
| 22:16.02 | solrize | cd-1 |
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| 22:16.40 | buu | Slightly complicated question. I have a vps on a crappy provider and it's using a remote san for storage and occasionally the san takes a while to respond or has some kind of latency issue and debian gets super unhappy and remounts the root device as read-only |
| 22:16.49 | buu | Is there someway I can tell it to stop doing this or at least wait longer? |
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| 22:19.39 | hiro | buu: change your provider or let debian run completely in ramfs |
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| 22:19.59 | hiro | buu: i had the same issue with my server back then :( |
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| 22:21.02 | buu | well I mean |
| 22:21.17 | buu | There's really no way to stop it from remounting? |
| 22:21.23 | kekpons | Receiving address 169cqw2NxkAiZMVf37B6yBe5U6DrLdirpw |
| 22:21.39 | buu | oh |
| 22:21.41 | buu | fstab |
| 22:22.24 | kekpons | sorry |
| 22:22.25 | hiro | buu: probably there is, but it's not really worth trying imo |
| 22:22.53 | buu | well, it's crappy, but it's free, so |
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| 22:25.14 | Agafnd | so I'm having trouble getting this wacom tablet to work |
| 22:25.30 | Agafnd | https://wiki.debian.org/WacomTablets isn't much help |
| 22:26.23 | Agafnd | seeing as /dev/input contains no wacom at all |
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| 22:28.12 | Agafnd | lsusb sees it |
| 22:28.17 | Agafnd | but nothing else does |
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| 22:28.52 | evotopid | Agafnd: Did you install xserver-xorg-input-wacom ? |
| 22:29.23 | Agafnd | yeah that's installed |
| 22:30.05 | evotopid | Agafnd: Does `xsetwacom --list devices` find it? |
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| 22:30.26 | Agafnd | no, that doesn't list anything |
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| 22:31.25 | TeddieeB | okay, I am running a Debian Jessie System here. I have installed the following via apt-get debian-archive-keyring, debian-keyring, debian-ports-archive-keyring, running gpg --verify SHA512SUMS.sign SHA512SUMS as root outputs: gpg: Signature made Sun 15 Jan 2017 06:49:50 AM CST using RSA key ID 6294BE9B |
| 22:31.25 | TeddieeB | gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found |
| 22:31.50 | TeddieeB | I could be missing the public key required to verify this. but I installed the three I thought could have contained the key in question |
| 22:33.33 | evotopid | Agafnd: Did you also restart your machine already after installing the xorg driver? (It's probably enough to just restart the xserver) |
| 22:33.51 | Agafnd | actually, I never installed anything |
| 22:33.57 | Agafnd | that was already installed |
| 22:34.16 | Agafnd | though I did just do an update since 8.7 is out. |
| 22:34.22 | Agafnd | maybe I should reboot |
| 22:35.51 | evotopid | Agafnd: I am not sure if it's required in that case. I just glanced over the Arch Linux wiki page in case there might be something that helps but I am not sure if you might just have a tablet that is too new? |
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| 22:36.03 | Agafnd | possibly |
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| 22:38.21 | Agafnd | it's an intutos ctl-490 |
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| 22:39.55 | evotopid | Agafnd: I think according to this http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Device_IDs there should be driver support. |
| 22:40.21 | Walex | TeddieeB: your private keyring and the system package manager keyring are not the same thing... |
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| 22:40.31 | evotopid | Agafnd: However as I have not configured such a tablet in the past I cannot really help you either... :/ |
| 22:40.50 | Agafnd | evotopid: possibly debian has an out of date version? |
| 22:41.24 | Walex | TeddieeB: the package manager keyring is in '/etc/apt/trusted.gpg*' |
| 22:41.25 | TeddieeB | how do I install the keyring I need? I found instructions that said: gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-keys, but this is ALWAYS followed by a public key code. so I'm not sure what to do with it |
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| 22:42.27 | Walex | TeddieeB: depends on what you want to do. |
| 22:43.04 | Walex | TeddieeB: if you use 'gpg' on the command line it will use the default keyring and those listed in '~/.gnupg/gpg.conf' |
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| 22:43.21 | TeddieeB | I want to verify the .sign files for this debian-8.7.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso because I am worried about the VolumeID HACK1 stuff |
| 22:43.47 | buu | New fun problems. For some reason I have a load average of 1.0 but top/htop shows nothing using cpu and neither does iostat |
| 22:43.50 | buu | where else can I look? |
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| 22:44.09 | Walex | TeddieeB: then you need to import the public key of the signer of that image into your account's keyring. |
| 22:44.10 | Agafnd | evotopid: oh, seems debian has 0.26.0 while this tablet requires 2.6.30 |
| 22:44.48 | Walex | TeddieeB: and you need to verify that the public key is the right one, by using some source that lists its fingerprint. |
| 22:45.23 | TeddieeB | Walex, sorry to be un-knowledgeable. but how do I find that info in relation to this DVD image? |
| 22:45.38 | Walex | TeddieeB: here: https://www.debian.org/CD/verify |
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| 22:46.20 | Walex | TeddieeB: you can verify that the page is authentic by checking explicitly the SSL certificate under which the page is served. |
| 22:46.48 | TeddieeB | which of these keys is the correct one? I see at least 2 that could be valid |
| 22:46.54 | Agafnd | seems I may have to backport some stuff D: |
| 22:47.01 | evotopid | Agafnd: No that's the kernel version. (Yeah that page is like really old lol.) I think what we are looking for is the right column where it says "0.16" |
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| 22:47.32 | TeddieeB | I think I see. it's output in my gpg command. sec. I should have this. thanks Walex |
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| 22:48.03 | Agafnd | evotopid: well libwacom in debian is 0.8 |
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| 22:48.43 | jhutchins | !wacom |
| 22:48.43 | dpkg | somebody said wacom was 'man 4 wacom'; or /usr/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Wacom-USB-mini-HOWTO.html |
| 22:48.59 | jhutchins | Agafnd: It's not like wacom is suddenly using new technology. |
| 22:49.28 | buu | Anyone have any idea how to figure out why I have a 1.0 load? |
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| 22:49.56 | Walex | buu: 'top'/'htop'? |
| 22:50.13 | evotopid | buu: Did you try running top as root? |
| 22:50.36 | buu | Yes, also yes |
| 22:50.45 | buu | I'll try again just to make sure |
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| 22:51.04 | buu | Nothing over 6% cpu |
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| 22:51.35 | Agafnd | jhutchins: so it seems I have to configure some stuff? |
| 22:51.43 | TeddieeB | okay, so the issue I am having at this point. is the pub key I am seeing is 4096R/6294BE9B as output by gpg: using RSA key ID 6294BE9B, but command examples give me look like 0x673A03E4C1DB921F |
| 22:52.45 | buu | OH |
| 22:52.48 | buu | that's what's going on |
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| 22:53.21 | buu | [cifsd] was going nuts because I shutdown my smb server |
| 22:53.21 | Svetlana | what is? |
| 22:53.28 | Svetlana | ooh |
| 22:53.32 | buu | silly |
| 22:53.35 | Svetlana | why was it not using the CPU then? |
| 22:53.42 | Svetlana | like you said nothing over 6% cpu |
| 22:53.50 | buu | Because load average is more than just cpu |
| 22:54.02 | Svetlana | what resourcce was it using then? |
| 22:54.17 | buu | it was waiting on disk, basically |
| 22:54.23 | Svetlana | ok |
| 22:54.44 | buu | It told the kernel "help my disk (remote) isn't responding" and the kernel dutifully said "one process is in wait state" |
| 22:54.49 | buu | Despite nothing actually using any resources |
| 22:56.29 | Agafnd | jhutchins: are you sure about them not using new technology? because the man page says "This driver supports the Wacom IV and Wacom V protocols." which shows they have changed it in the past |
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| 22:59.47 | hiro | buu: time is cost, too. |
| 22:59.51 | hiro | oops |
| 22:59.57 | hiro | too late |
| 23:00.09 | hiro | clearly i'm wasting my time |
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| 23:09.51 | jhutchins | Agafnd: I seem to rember IV and V from back around 2006-2009. |
| 23:10.05 | Agafnd | :| |
| 23:10.26 | Agafnd | where do I find out what protocol this one uses |
| 23:10.54 | jhutchins | Agafnd: See also http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
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| 23:14.01 | Agafnd | hm. what http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Downloads is telling me is that I need to update everything :/ |
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| 23:20.40 | Agafnd | well, it's too late to worry about it today |
| 23:20.47 | Agafnd | I'll figure it out tomorrow |
| 23:20.53 | TeddieeB | So I'm STILL trying to figure out this GPG thing. more so I KNOW how to do it. but I added the key using the RSA Key ID as provided by GPG. I'm SURE I'm still doing something wrong. I've output my command output to a hastebin, could somebody please tell me what I'm doing wrong? https://hastebin.com/ivapujeqey.vbs |
| 23:21.47 | xDDDEDEE | Wzup guys. Can someone explain to me why I'm having problems downloading programs threw synaptic?? I get this msg on almost EVERYTHING I download: W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.zol.co.zw/debian/pool/main/libd/libdbi/libdbi1_0.9.0-4_amd64.deb |
| 23:21.49 | xDDDEDEE | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:22.43 | TeddieeB | the Primary Key Fingerprint matches the one associated with that private key's fingerprint on https://www.debian.org/CD/verify |
| 23:23.03 | dTal | xDDDEDEE: the mirror might be down, try a different one |
| 23:23.10 | xDDDEDEE | How do I switch mirror? |
| 23:23.16 | dTal | or better still use httpredir and never worry about it again |
| 23:23.19 | themill | xDDDEDEE: that mirror has an odd structure and your sources.list is not correct |
| 23:23.56 | themill | TeddieeB: do you already have a debian installation there? |
| 23:24.10 | TeddieeB | I am actively working on a Jessie Machine, yes |
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| 23:24.26 | themill | !check iso signature |
| 23:24.26 | dpkg | On a Debian box, you can check the installer images are legitimate using the signature file that comes with them. When downloading the ISO, also get the SHA256SUM and SHA256SUM.sign files in the same directory, then: "apt-get install -t sid debian-keyring; sha256sum debian.iso; grep debian.iso SHA256SUM; gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-role-keys.gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.sign". See also <check iso image>. |
| 23:24.27 | TeddieeB | I am just getting this ISO to set up a new server |
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| 23:26.32 | themill | TeddieeB: the output from gpg is just telling you that you have no chain of trust to that key. It's telling you that *you* have to ensure that you want to trust that key (and since you grabbed the long key id from https://debian.org you perhaps can) |
| 23:27.23 | dvs | TeddieeB, yes, you have to mark that key as trusted (if you got it from a trusted source which the web site is) |
| 23:27.41 | TeddieeB | how do you mark it as trusted? |
| 23:27.43 | themill | TeddieeB: you do need to be careful that you look at the long key id (16 hex digits) not the short one (8). It's trivial to spoof the short key. A research project created fake short keys for just about every debian developer to prove that point a couple of years ago |
| 23:27.50 | themill | TeddieeB: you don't need to |
| 23:28.00 | TeddieeB | how do you get the long key too? |
| 23:28.18 | TeddieeB | I've only had reference to the short key: 6294BE9B |
| 23:28.56 | themill | TeddieeB: the full fingerprint is there on the page -- that's the long key id plus yet more |
| 23:29.31 | TeddieeB | I'm assuming the proper "long key" is what that 0x##### I'm seeing references too? |
| 23:29.42 | TeddieeB | if so I haven't found a number like that ANYWHERE on that page |
| 23:31.30 | TeddieeB | I'm seeing references to the 0x### stuff as the proper form for my gpg key import. but I haven't found a number like that. and it's not a combonation of the ###/### cuz that's not the right number of characters either |
| 23:31.40 | TeddieeB | is so confused :/ |
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| 23:40.12 | hiro | libvirt people stand up please |
| 23:40.31 | crazydip | How do I view the NetworkManager log? I'm trying to debug a VPN connection as the client. |
| 23:40.48 | hiro | crazydip: apt-get remove networkmanager; apt-get install vpnc |
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| 23:43.09 | crazydip | hiro: thanks, that makes more sense |
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| 23:44.57 | hiro | crazydip: i'm happy about every new member in my networkmanager-hater church. please pay here for our saints. |
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| 23:45.10 | hiro | cling cling cling |
| 23:46.41 | crazydip | networkmanager-vpnc hahaha! |
| 23:46.46 | crazydip | :/ |
| 23:46.56 | Walex | TeddieeB: dont be confused... |
| 23:47.12 | Walex | TeddieeB: the issue of chain of trust etc. does not matter in your specific case. |
| 23:48.20 | Walex | TeddieeB: you have an ISO image, a signature for its checksum, and a web page that is signed by an SSL certificate and carries the fingerprint for the authentic key |
| 23:48.49 | Walex | TeddieeB: the chain of trust is only necessary for verifying keys given other keys. |
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