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| 00:00.59 | n4dir | Ups: what is iproute2 ? |
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| 00:06.08 | samkod | I'm running jessie and the latest updates messed up my nvidia legacy driver, no gl games will run. I tried starting fresh and going back to the legacy nvidia driver and now although it's installed my whole box crashes when it gets to lightdm |
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| 00:08.10 | samkod | Anyone know where I can start to get this working? |
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| 00:14.50 | heston | samkod, check /var/log/messages |
| 00:17.21 | samkod | It says failed to load module nvidia (module does not exist) |
| 00:18.14 | heston | whats the exact error |
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| 00:18.58 | missmbob | highly doubt that's jessie. jessie would've created the nvidia module via dkms |
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| 00:20.15 | missmbob | !nvidia |
| 00:20.15 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:20.49 | missmbob | see the debian wiki above |
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| 00:21.18 | samkod | That's exactly where I came from and followed those exact steps |
| 00:21.33 | samkod | I've installed from the non-free and contrib mirrors |
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| 00:22.07 | samkod | Should i try to reinstall so it makes the kernel module? |
| 00:22.24 | missmbob | you want legacy, right? |
| 00:23.06 | missmbob | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Version_304.131_.28legacy_GPUs.29 that'll get the kernel headers first (which is necessary for dkms to build the module) |
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| 00:24.00 | missmbob | pastebin the result if it doesnt work |
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| 00:32.27 | velix | Anyone with fun and time to backport geos-3.5.1 to Jessie with me? I've got problems with G++. https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libgeos-3.5.1 |
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| 00:35.21 | themill | velix: geos looks quite easily backportable -- what's wrong? |
| 00:35.34 | missmbob | ,checkbackport geos |
| 00:35.35 | judd | Backporting package geos in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
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| 00:37.49 | themill | the build-deps aren't necessarily right though |
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| 00:38.24 | heston | uhm, should that be stretch->jessie |
| 00:38.33 | heston | shouldnt |
| 00:38.50 | themill | you can attempt to backport from any release to any older one |
| 00:39.14 | heston | so then that script is too ambiguous |
| 00:39.21 | themill | in what way? |
| 00:39.22 | heston | you should have to specify a version |
| 00:39.25 | themill | you can |
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| 00:40.17 | heston | a version and a target |
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| 00:40.23 | themill | you can |
| 00:40.26 | heston | how |
| 00:40.35 | themill | ,help checkbackport |
| 00:40.36 | judd | (checkbackport <packagename> [--fromrelease <sid>] [--torelease <stable>] [--arch <amd64>] [--verbose]) -- Check that the build-dependencies listed by a package in the release specified as "fromrelease" are satisfiable for in "torelease" for the given host architecture. By default, a backport from unstable to the current stable release and amd64 are used. |
| 00:40.55 | themill | You'll also see that geos has the same versions in stretch and sid. |
| 00:41.01 | themill | (as do almost all packages) |
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| 00:41.32 | velix | themill: "$CC -V" and others do break compilation. |
| 00:41.42 | velix | themill: All patches got applied correctly. |
| 00:43.20 | themill | yeah, I'm looking at the build failure to see why |
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| 00:44.57 | heston | themill, I take it that script will only work on a package available in one of the releases |
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| 00:45.26 | themill | it's awfully hard to do any calculations without any information |
| 00:46.26 | heston | the information is still available just not through debian |
| 00:46.53 | themill | How would the bot get it? |
| 00:47.11 | heston | traverse through the package's repo |
| 00:47.21 | themill | what package's what repo? |
| 00:47.32 | heston | the one being searched for |
| 00:47.47 | themill | the one that's not in debian... |
| 00:48.01 | heston | sorry, not package but project |
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| 00:48.25 | velix | themill: I've compiled geos from source and installed it to /opt/. So Debian's additions introduce the problem :( |
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| 00:50.13 | themill | velix: more likely it's to do with compilation options -- the failure looked to be related to it not finding a ruby interpreter |
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| 00:50.57 | velix | themill: ruby? I've never used ruby before. I really wonder, why Debian produces so "big" packages. |
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| 00:51.24 | velix | themill: I'd like to have slim packages. I guess, only 1% would need GEOS in Ruby :) |
| 00:52.38 | themill | yeah, but if that ruby-geos weren't packaged then those people would be complaining about how terrible debian was for not enabling those bindings. These compilation options are only relevant to building the package. The binary packages are separate and you'd not install ruby-geos if you didn't want it |
| 00:53.41 | velix | themill: can you give me a hint, how to leave them out? |
| 00:54.01 | velix | themill: dpkg-buildpackage -b ? |
| 00:55.09 | themill | it's probably easier to work out what extra build-dependency is required to make them build, but otherwise delete the stanza from d/control and disable that configuration option in d/rules |
| 00:55.36 | velix | themill: I've used "sudo mk-build-deps --install --remove" for this ;) |
| 00:56.19 | velix | themill: "-b" also doesn't work: conftest.c:63:20: fatal error: ieeefp.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:56.41 | themill | mk-build-deps can only look at the declared build-deps and they are not quite right for jessie |
| 00:56.59 | velix | themill: d'oh |
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| 00:57.05 | velix | themill: you're right. |
| 00:57.08 | themill | the message about ieeefp.h isn't the actual fatal error |
| 00:57.27 | themill | that's just autotools frigging around to find the necessary bits |
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| 01:01.16 | JayCoyote | 'kay. I'll just hang about for a little, Have read the guidelines. |
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| 01:02.16 | themill | velix: changing d/control and d/rules to remove the ruby bits seems to work |
| 01:02.33 | JayCoyote | I will state that I installed Debian on a laptop years ago and liked it. Am considering it for this one. |
| 01:02.35 | velix | themill: that's bad-porting, not back-porting ;) |
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| 01:02.55 | themill | velix: meh it's only ruby |
| 01:03.52 | velix | themill: you're right. |
| 01:04.09 | missmbob | velix: are you compiling as root? |
| 01:04.17 | velix | missmbob: fakeroot |
| 01:05.52 | themill | velix: adding a build-dependency on 'ruby' might be sufficient if you care enough to try |
| 01:06.10 | velix | themill: let me clean up my build environment first ;) |
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| 01:06.37 | themill | !sbuild |
| 01:06.38 | dpkg | The 'sbuild' package provides a way to build Debian packages within <chroot> environments that are managed using the <schroot> utility. Building within sbuild saves installing the build-dependencies on your machine and also compiles in a clean environment; sbuild is used on the Debian <buildd> network. See https://wiki.debian.org/sbuild |
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| 01:07.08 | themill | â with aufs/overlayfs or lvm snapshots to make that a non-issue |
| 01:07.30 | velix | themill: sbuild, cowbuild, pbuild ... |
| 01:07.45 | themill | just use sbuild and ignore the rest of the kids toys |
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| 01:08.36 | velix | themill: I like the cow part of cowbuild. |
| 01:08.46 | themill | sbuild does that already |
| 01:08.48 | velix | oh |
| 01:09.21 | themill | union-type=aufs |
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| 01:10.22 | RickHull | Hi, I have narrowed down my power management problems. I can hibernate successfully (disk) but not suspend (mem) or freeze |
| 01:10.35 | RickHull | well, I can suspend to mem and freeze, but I cannot resume |
| 01:10.35 | velix | themill: thx |
| 01:11.31 | RickHull | i.e. echo {freeze,mem,disk} > /sys/power/state |
| 01:12.06 | RickHull | usually freeze would work more easily than mem than disk. but I have only disk working |
| 01:12.35 | RickHull | with freeze and mem, the display comes back but everything is frozen. hardware keys like radio disable are nonfunctional |
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| 01:15.24 | RickHull | i am using xorg-intel-video driver, it's a 945G(M) |
| 01:15.34 | RickHull | too old for modesetting |
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| 01:15.55 | RickHull | i think the framebuffer gets frozen. but not sure why that would freeze the keyboard |
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| 01:17.22 | RickHull | in the worst case, where i can't make freeze or mem work, can I make sure all "suspend" type functions only use disk aka hibernate? |
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| 01:33.16 | velix | What locale is good as Debian system? |
| 01:33.35 | velix | Shall I en_GB.UTF-8, en_US.UTF-8 or even C ? |
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| 01:36.26 | ^v | velix, whatever you prefer (thats what they are for right?) |
| 01:37.18 | velix | ^v: it's en_GB.UTF-8 - don't know why ;) |
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| 01:38.49 | ^v | velix, im using en_US.UTF-8 |
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| 01:39.19 | velix | ^v: ok, I'll do some reading this night |
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| 02:20.33 | scott_tams | So I pulled a secondary hard drive (that isn't usually used or mounted) out of my system, replacing it with one I wanted to image. My regular Debian wouldn't start. Luckily I had a live USB image laying around, so I used that to image the drive to my backup drive, shut it down, and put the original drive back in its place. My regular Debian is still not booting, going instead to "emergency mode" and asking for a root passwo |
| 02:20.34 | scott_tams | â¦sly disabled. |
| 02:21.21 | scott_tams | to be clear, I don't think the drive that was removed was in /etc/fstab so it's not clear to me what the issue is. |
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| 02:29.01 | scott_tams | is anyone around? |
| 02:29.31 | dvs | nope |
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| 02:31.46 | raynold[away] | ahh it's a wonderful day |
| 02:33.32 | zykotick9 | scott_tams: do you still use device names (like /dev/sda1) in your /etc/fstab file? |
| 02:33.42 | joze | a round or a bullet? |
| 02:33.52 | joze | oh sorry wrong channel |
| 02:34.39 | scott_tams | zykotick9: yes for one of the drives I think. I should switch to uuid? |
| 02:35.07 | zykotick9 | scott_tams: yes. or LABLES. chose one and ditch device names! |
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| 02:36.18 | scott_tams | zykotick9: thank you. I will take care of that. since my machine is (obviously) down, could you do me a favor and tell me what command I need to get the uuid once I get back to a live disk? |
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| 02:37.31 | zykotick9 | scott_tams: "blkid" is one way... |
| 02:37.52 | scott_tams | zykotick9: thank you very much. |
| 02:37.58 | dvs | scott_tams, ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid |
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| 02:41.04 | scott_tams | dvs: that's the one that I've actually used before. thank you. |
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| 03:29.12 | bliv | dumb question: I use firefox-esr on stable, I just discovered I can install the release version from the mozilla.debian.net repo, I tried to install it and it seemed fine but I can only open firefox-esr and not the release version, how come? |
| 03:29.50 | bliv | the closest Iâve come to understand it was dpkg --listfiles firefox |
| 03:30.03 | bliv | it says: /usr/bin/firefox diverted by firefox-esr to: /usr/bin/firefox.real |
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| 03:59.35 | awal1 | bliv, you may get support on #debian-firefox /mozilla |
| 03:59.46 | awal1 | not sure about the exact channel name |
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| 04:06.36 | ZtolenClothez | hey, I'm trying to compile gimp-git on debian 8 but the libs are not compatible even on backports. Is there another option to upgrade debian stabe or is testing the only option? |
| 04:07.30 | tharkun | !ssb |
| 04:07.45 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 05:07.38 | Rusty1_ | !offtopic |
| 05:07.38 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 05:30.37 | neritam_ | hi |
| 05:31.30 | neritam_ | i am not able to set screen resolution debian 8 |
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| 06:39.05 | ZJAY | ok stoopid ? time again....... in cron what does this mean "*/480 * * * * " or this "* * * * *" |
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| 07:53.45 | Raineer | you're defining how often you want the cron event to run |
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| 08:29.59 | Rust3dCor3 | Hi. Yesterday I've tried to upgrade my dist via apt. Update went well as usual, but after apt-get upgrade an error has shown. I don't know what to do (again). The package name is udev. After this message I cant upgrade my applications. I've tried apt-get -f install on udev. Nothing happened. This is my paste: http://pastebin.com/A8yHcjcx |
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| 08:33.37 | klys | rust3dcor3, remove the rmnologin dependency from the comment at the top of /etc/init.d/runhwactivator and try again or do dpkg --configure -a |
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| 08:38.24 | Rust3dCor3 | klys, that file is completely empty (0 bytes). |
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| 08:39.50 | Rust3dCor3 | klys, from where i should get a normal (with something in it) copy |
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| 08:42.56 | klys | rust3dcor3, dpkg -S /etc/init.d/runhwactivator should tell you the name of its package, if not, try http://packages.debian.org |
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| 08:44.56 | Rust3dCor3 | klys, dpkg -S /etc/init.d/runhwactivator and via packages.debian.org shown no results |
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| 08:47.02 | klys | remove the file and try again |
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| 08:48.57 | Rust3dCor3 | klys, still nothing |
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| 08:49.25 | klys | rust3dcor3, same error? |
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| 08:49.38 | Rust3dCor3 | klys, same |
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| 08:52.12 | klys | is that from a Huawei E1550 driver? |
| 08:52.55 | Rust3dCor3 | i've installed an old hauwei hardware 2 months ago. but never used it |
| 08:53.31 | klys | i think all initscripts need a leading comment now. |
| 08:53.55 | klys | just copy one over |
| 08:54.25 | klys | or remove the driver package for your Huawei device |
| 08:54.44 | Rust3dCor3 | im making some magic now. after deleting that empty file i've sucessfuly apt-get -f install |
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| 08:55.00 | klys | :) good going |
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| 08:55.11 | Rust3dCor3 | and it magically unpacks all datafiles from apt-get upgrade |
| 08:55.22 | Rust3dCor3 | fuck Huawei |
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| 08:58.25 | marekw2143 | hello |
| 08:58.28 | Rust3dCor3 | hi |
| 08:58.40 | Rust3dCor3 | klys. You are a wizard. It works |
| 08:58.56 | marekw2143 | I've installed debian 8.6 |
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| 08:59.47 | marekw2143 | and wanted to install TL-WN722N (http://www.tp-link.com.pl/products/details/cat-11_TL-WN722N.html) |
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| 09:00.08 | marekw2143 | on my personal Ubuntu, when plugging in the card, doing "modprobe ath9k" card simply workds |
| 09:00.31 | marekw2143 | but in debian It doesn't - I don't know what I have to configure to make it work :) |
| 09:01.17 | klys | marekw2143, kernel versions? |
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| 09:02.05 | marekw2143 | 3.16 |
| 09:02.23 | marekw2143 | uname -a gives two values: 3.16.0-4-amd64 |
| 09:02.31 | klys | ubuntu? |
| 09:02.33 | marekw2143 | and SMP Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u1 |
| 09:02.38 | klys | o ok |
| 09:02.45 | marekw2143 | above is from debian |
| 09:02.52 | klys | does it have that module? |
| 09:03.05 | marekw2143 | well, modprobe ath9k doesnt throw error |
| 09:03.08 | klys | eg, does it show up in lsmod |
| 09:03.32 | marekw2143 | yes, it shows |
| 09:03.52 | klys | how about dmesg | less |
| 09:04.10 | klys | do you see relevant info there |
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| 09:04.57 | marekw2143 | no, only something about BOOT_IMAGE |
| 09:05.44 | klys | you hotplugged your card? |
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| 09:06.03 | marekw2143 | you mean "just put into usb" - yes |
| 09:06.11 | klys | o ic. |
| 09:06.47 | marekw2143 | but wait |
| 09:06.52 | marekw2143 | i've done dmesg|less |
| 09:07.02 | marekw2143 | thought it'll show last log entries |
| 09:07.09 | marekw2143 | but after pgDown'ing, I've seen sth like: |
| 09:07.21 | marekw2143 | "Product: USB2.0 WLAN |
| 09:07.27 | marekw2143 | Manufacturer ATHEROS |
| 09:07.31 | klys | ok |
| 09:07.43 | marekw2143 | oh, firmware failed to load hts_9271.fw |
| 09:08.11 | klys | not bad, just copy it into /lib/firmware then |
| 09:08.30 | marekw2143 | is there any official "hts_9271.fw" file? |
| 09:08.56 | klys | you should have one, is ubuntu still installed? |
| 09:09.14 | marekw2143 | well, I have two computers |
| 09:09.26 | marekw2143 | ubuntu is on one, and debian on another |
| 09:09.30 | marekw2143 | yes, ubuntu is insalled |
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| 09:10.11 | klys | you got a spare usb flash memory device? |
| 09:10.19 | marekw2143 | yes |
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| 09:10.24 | klys | just mount and copy |
| 09:10.28 | marekw2143 | ok |
| 09:10.56 | klys | if not, look for a relevant firmware package in debian and then from the manufacturer |
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| 09:12.52 | klys | the kernel is "where firmware comes from." |
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| 09:19.05 | marekw2143 | hmm, I've copied htc_9271.fw to /lib/firmware |
| 09:19.16 | marekw2143 | should I remove device and plug it in? |
| 09:19.52 | klys | rmmod ath9k |
| 09:20.01 | klys | modprobe ath9k |
| 09:20.05 | klys | replug |
| 09:20.26 | klys | see dmesg again |
| 09:20.38 | klys | iwconfig -a |
| 09:20.55 | klys | iwlist wlan0 scan | less |
| 09:21.15 | klys | update /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 09:21.21 | marekw2143 | it works! |
| 09:21.23 | marekw2143 | thanks |
| 09:21.27 | klys | sure |
| 09:21.31 | klys | :) |
| 09:21.34 | marekw2143 | btw, i'd like to update packages |
| 09:21.41 | marekw2143 | but apg-te update doesn't seem so |
| 09:21.49 | marekw2143 | I have to add some links to package repositories ? |
| 09:22.06 | klys | update /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 09:22.18 | klys | with a text editor |
| 09:22.35 | klys | are you using jessie? |
| 09:22.45 | klys | or what |
| 09:22.59 | marekw2143 | jes |
| 09:23.01 | marekw2143 | *ye |
| 09:23.05 | marekw2143 | yes |
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| 09:23.20 | marekw2143 | i've installed with cd |
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| 09:23.49 | marekw2143 | and http://seurity.debian.org/ jessie/updates main is commented |
| 09:23.57 | ZtolenClothez | so I want to compile gimp from git on debian. is testing the only option? |
| 09:24.09 | marekw2143 | so I just have to uncomment those ? |
| 09:24.38 | klys | yes |
| 09:25.14 | klys | deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian jessie main |
| 09:25.22 | klys | and |
| 09:25.34 | klys | deb http://security.debian.org/debian jessie main |
| 09:25.46 | marekw2143 | nono |
| 09:26.08 | klys | and you might want deb-multimedia or what not besides updates |
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| 09:26.33 | marekw2143 | i had: deb http://security.debian.org/debian jessie/updates main |
| 09:26.54 | marekw2143 | and: deb-src http://security.debian.org jessie/updates main |
| 09:26.57 | klys | i think updates is additional |
| 09:27.04 | marekw2143 | ok |
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| 09:27.41 | heller_ | hey guys |
| 09:27.48 | klys | hi |
| 09:28.12 | heller_ | i have an intel atom host with integrated gigabit ethernet and gigabit pcie card. |
| 09:28.26 | klys | e1000.ko ? |
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| 09:28.48 | klys | lsmod first, then lspci |
| 09:28.59 | heller_ | hehe, they are working |
| 09:28.59 | klys | you should find it there |
| 09:29.03 | klys | o ok |
| 09:29.09 | heller_ | my quesiton is, is there a possibilyt to break something if i upgrade+ |
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| 09:29.37 | klys | not likely, those drivers are solid kernel components |
| 09:30.08 | heller_ | another question |
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| 09:30.51 | heller_ | that machine is running as a firewall |
| 09:30.56 | heller_ | but its not really firewalling anything |
| 09:31.16 | heller_ | how can i make for example to enable VNC from one site only? |
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| 09:32.19 | marekw2143 | how to add backports repository so that apt-get install would use backports ? |
| 09:32.30 | marekw2143 | I don't want to use "-t" all the time ;) |
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| 09:45.51 | marekw2143 | do when I've added backports repo to sources.list, then apt-get upgrade simply use that repo ? |
| 09:46.01 | marekw2143 | when I've also ran apt-get update |
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| 09:46.56 | klys | if there are package backports, it will use them instead. |
| 09:47.41 | heller_ | any thoughs on this one? http://pastebin.com/j87AuBPN |
| 09:47.47 | heller_ | why are the data so different? |
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| 09:49.31 | marekw2143 | hm, ok |
| 09:49.44 | marekw2143 | I've tried: apt-get install jessie-backports --only-upgrade libreoffice |
| 09:49.47 | marekw2143 | but it complaints |
| 09:50.03 | marekw2143 | that needs libreoffice-core higher version |
| 09:50.11 | marekw2143 | how just "install all necessary versions'? :) |
| 09:50.25 | klys | try aptitude |
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| 09:58.35 | marekw2143 | just running aptitude full-upgrade |
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| 10:00.54 | gen0 | Hey guys. Is there any netflix look-a-like program for debian in the synaptic manager? |
| 10:01.04 | klys | kodi |
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| 10:01.58 | gen0 | Awesome, thank you Klys :) |
| 10:02.05 | klys | shore |
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| 10:09.51 | marekw2143 | still unmet dependencies |
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| 10:13.30 | TomTomTosch | !bat |
| 10:13.30 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 10:15.18 | gen0 | Soo, you guys know any good app in kodi to watch serials? I wanna watch fresh prince of bel-air |
| 10:15.38 | shewp | So I got this wheezy server running zfs-on-linux (zol). zol is no longer maintained for wheezy. Do you think it's safe to apt-get upgrade the kernel on this machine? |
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| 10:22.06 | blackflow | shewp: it's zfs. make a copy of /boot somewhere on the root pool, make a snapshot, and try :) worst case, you'll have to reboot into some kind of rescue mode that supports zfs and revert the snapshot. if you don't have such a rescue env, then, well... risky. |
| 10:22.47 | shewp | blackflow: i'm only running storage on zfs, i dont risk not being able to boot, just not being able to access a certain mount |
| 10:22.56 | shewp | but that would be bad enough |
| 10:23.21 | shewp | cause then i'd have to upgrade to jessie i guess, which is an endeavor i dont wanna take right now |
| 10:23.30 | blackflow | shewp: then it's simple, make a copy of /boot somewhere so you can restore it to pre-upgrade one. |
| 10:23.59 | shewp | hmm... only /boot ? not /lib/modules/ also then? |
| 10:24.00 | blackflow | in theory, zol is a dkm so it should rebuild itself with every kernel upgrade. however I don't know if newer zfs versions support that old a kernel |
| 10:24.24 | blackflow | shewp: yeah, copy all of it. |
| 10:24.46 | blackflow | shewp: oh but wait, you don't have root on zfs? |
| 10:25.01 | shewp | no, only a certain storage mount |
| 10:25.07 | shewp | but i dont wanna lose that either :) |
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| 10:25.40 | blackflow | ah so it's not just initramfs |
| 10:26.19 | shewp | na i got ext4 all over the place.. i just mount a zfs raid array in /mnt/ |
| 10:26.25 | blackflow | well then I suppose you can downgrade the kernel if zol can't be built for the new one? |
| 10:26.35 | blackflow | using apt, not copying dirs |
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| 10:26.49 | shewp | hm... i guess, i didnt know apt could downgrade |
| 10:27.06 | blackflow | I don't know that for a fact either, but I'm assuming it can. never had to tho' |
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| 10:28.48 | blackflow | shewp: but the old kernel remains unless you manually remove it, yes? both stuff in /boot and modules? |
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| 10:29.26 | blackflow | shewp: so if you have some kind of ipmi or kvm to access the boot menu, you could reboot into the older kernel |
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| 10:29.43 | shewp | the old kernel is not in /boot, cant see it at least |
| 10:29.49 | CrazyPenguin | is Ubuntu going |
| 10:29.54 | shewp | and i've upgrade this system alot in my days |
| 10:29.58 | CrazyPenguin | MS way? |
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| 10:30.28 | blackflow | CrazyPenguin: yesno. for a more consistent answer, try #ubuntu. :) |
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| 10:31.58 | blackflow | shewp: found this too: http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/236711 |
| 10:32.23 | shewp | yea blackflow, i found something similar... so it should be possible |
| 10:32.32 | shewp | i think i'll do it |
| 10:33.02 | blackflow | shewp: worst case, you'll have to upgrade to jessie? :) |
| 10:33.11 | shewp | exactly :) |
| 10:33.18 | blackflow | my upgrade wheezy -> jessie went just fine |
| 10:33.22 | shewp | which i need to do eventually anyway |
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| 10:38.25 | blackflow | shewp: so other than the potential issues with kernel upgrades, how's ZoL treating you? I've been testing it on Ubuntu, but I intend to switch that to Stretch in time for testing before it's released. However, I do root on encrypted zfs. |
| 10:39.09 | shewp | blackflow: i've not had any problems with it so far, i enjoy the cli and the ease of replacing disks |
| 10:39.21 | shewp | i've not used it in any advanced ways |
| 10:39.32 | shewp | but had to replace a disk once, that went zmooth |
| 10:39.38 | blackflow | heh heh zmooth :) |
| 10:39.42 | shewp | :P |
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| 10:39.50 | shewp | also, my kernel upgrade went fine, just went through with it |
| 10:39.58 | blackflow | zol rebuilt fine? |
| 10:40.10 | blackflow | nice. |
| 10:40.25 | shewp | https://paste.fedoraproject.org/532143/49949231/ (yes yes fpaste) |
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| 10:40.44 | shewp | can't really see if it did rebuild at all, theres one entry for dkms |
| 10:40.47 | shewp | perhaps it didn't need to |
| 10:42.24 | blackflow | shewp: indeed looks like that. what was the previous kernel version? |
| 10:43.02 | shewp | blackflow: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64_3.2.82-1_amd64.deb |
| 10:43.13 | blackflow | so 3.2.82 -> 3.2.84 |
| 10:43.16 | shewp | y |
| 10:43.23 | blackflow | hmm |
| 10:44.10 | blackflow | shewp: and zfs is from the zol's own debian repo? |
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| 10:44.26 | shewp | yea |
| 10:44.33 | shewp | but it's not fetching anything anymore, apt-get update fails on it |
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| 10:46.23 | blackflow | I see. |
| 10:49.07 | shewp | my other machine came back also, i'm happy |
| 10:49.11 | shewp | thx blackflow |
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| 11:30.34 | Helle | Messing with unattended upgrades, decided I don't want to actually do them fully, but can I get mails based on APT::Periodic::Download-Upgradeable-Packages ? I used to do it with a custom script, but wonder if there is a standard solution for it now |
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| 11:31.18 | Helle | or am I just stuck with the output of APT::Periodic::Verbose, which is a bit of a mess |
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| 11:32.27 | Helle | (I'd rather have a, before hand apt-listchanges style thing) |
| 11:32.39 | Helle | (mailed to me whenever the download is done) |
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| 11:38.54 | Helle | ah, the answer seems to be apticron |
| 11:39.00 | Helle | or painintheapt |
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| 12:04.23 | gen0 | hey boys. How do I enable vt-x on my debian system? I can't find anything in my bios to do this. |
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| 12:04.41 | gen0 | It's in purpose of increasing ram and cpu cores on my virtualbox. |
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| 12:05.23 | Pavr | you need to enable it in your bios if your cpu supports it |
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| 12:06.14 | teraflops | gen0: it's not something you enable on the OS side |
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| 12:07.51 | gen0 | ye i thought so too, but i looked everywhere in my bios and couldnt find shit |
| 12:07.53 | Pavr | check your /proc/cpuinfo to see if it supports "vmx" if you have a intel cpu |
| 12:07.55 | SynrG | egrep 'vmx|svm' /proc/cpuinfo |
| 12:07.59 | gen0 | my cpu got vt-x |
| 12:08.14 | Pavr | what cpu do you have? |
| 12:08.36 | gen0 | i5-2500k |
| 12:09.00 | noc_ | I think you canincrease ram/cores in the virgtual machine without vt-x, it serves to speed up execution (real cpu executes instrucvtions as opposed to an emulated interpreter cpu built-in into virtualbox) |
| 12:09.42 | gen0 | noc_: When I do this I can't start the VM, it giecs me error that vt-x is not enabled in bios |
| 12:10.07 | gen0 | but srsly there is nothing in my bios with this information. Must the motherboard support it too or what? |
| 12:10.17 | SynrG | possibly get help in ##hardware |
| 12:10.20 | SynrG | it's OT for here |
| 12:10.29 | gen0 | True story |
| 12:10.40 | iarenaza | some (shitty) manufactures disable it in the bios and don't provide any setting to enable it back |
| 12:11.22 | gen0 | Probably need to update bios and shit just cba that atm. I installed XFCE and saw now it's running totally ok on only 1 cpu core |
| 12:11.25 | teraflops | gen0: google for check vt-x support cpu + linux ⦠|
| 12:12.11 | Pavr | http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=360855 might be because it doesn't support vt-d like they suggest in that forum |
| 12:12.14 | Pavr | but dno |
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| 12:13.08 | noc_ | if you're running linux inside linux, look into systemd-nspawn/LXC/paravirtualization, does not need vt-x to be at optimal performance |
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| 12:16.34 | gen0 | teraflops: ok checking that now |
| 12:16.34 | gen0 | noc_: sorry, im new to linux. Where do I find this systemd? |
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| 12:20.31 | gen0 | Fuck this project for now lads. Xfce runs good enough anyway |
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| 12:24.30 | xXEoflaOEXx | gen0, Please don't try to swear. |
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| 12:25.47 | gen0 | I'm not trying |
| 12:25.53 | gen0 | :D |
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| 12:42.48 | CDuv | Hello, I am trying to change the SHELL used for at``jobs. I want to use /bin/sh instead of the user's default shell |
| 12:43.36 | CDuv | (using at v3.1.16) |
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| 12:45.44 | eddard | Debian on a router with four NICs, can't ping between subnets on different NICs ... 10.10.1.x can ping 10.10.1.1 (router nic a) as well as 10.10.4.1 (router nic b), but NOT 10.10.4.3. |
| 12:46.06 | eddard | Can ping 10.10.4.3 from the router. |
| 12:46.34 | eddard | Managed to figure out that broad cast on 10.10.4.3 is set to 10.10.5.255 !? would that interfere? |
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| 12:49.48 | ethan43m | hi can I install easydebian to an old android tablet android 2.3? |
| 12:50.11 | ethan43m | is there a guide to do that? |
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| 12:51.43 | SynrG | ethan43m: not supported here |
| 12:52.04 | ethan43m | SynrG which channel should I ask? |
| 12:52.13 | SynrG | don't know. |
| 12:52.52 | SynrG | is it even alive, still? |
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| 13:08.22 | ImUs3r | i can install debian on 32G storage? |
| 13:08.47 | shewp | yes |
| 13:08.56 | ImUs3r | not enough? |
| 13:08.57 | dwalker | hi guys, im having a problem that i cant seem to resolve.. i keep having issues with php5-fpm causing not closing children down with nginx - previously i had diagnosed this aswell and dropped back down to version: 5.6.24+dfsg-0+deb8u1 |
| 13:08.58 | ImUs3r | for using? |
| 13:09.01 | dwalker | this is not included in the repos anymore |
| 13:09.02 | shewp | 32G is more than enough |
| 13:09.04 | ImUs3r | shewp: ? |
| 13:09.08 | dwalker | any ideas here? can i get the .deb files somewhere? |
| 13:09.20 | ImUs3r | oh really? then i can install many program on 32G? |
| 13:09.46 | shewp | ImUs3r: i dont know what you classify as many, but 32G is more than what i use |
| 13:10.00 | ImUs3r | oh |
| 13:10.03 | ImUs3r | great |
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| 13:11.25 | dwalker | current version: 5.6.29-0+deb8u1 seems buggy on my machines |
| 13:11.59 | ImUs3r | xcfe is good for using? shewp ? |
| 13:12.26 | shewp | ImUs3r: yes, xfce is lightweight and functional |
| 13:12.31 | shewp | i use xfce exclusively |
| 13:13.14 | ImUs3r | oh good |
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| 13:18.44 | abrotman | dwalker: so you want the older packages? |
| 13:18.55 | dwalker | well yes |
| 13:19.04 | dwalker | the problem is that it WAS in the repos im using |
| 13:19.06 | dwalker | but not anymore |
| 13:19.26 | dwalker | i use puppet to control packages on the servers, it is set to install 5.6.24+dfsg-0+deb8u1 |
| 13:19.35 | dwalker | but it defaults to the only one there, since its the only one avaialble |
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| 13:19.45 | abrotman | dpkg: tell dwalker about snapshot |
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| 13:20.07 | abrotman | dwalker: I assume you've filed a bug against the package? |
| 13:20.08 | dwalker | i actually found that just 1min ago :P |
| 13:20.15 | abrotman | or looked to see if the bug is already there? |
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| 13:21.04 | dwalker | the problem is really that im unsure if its the config |
| 13:21.06 | dwalker | or whatever is causing it |
| 13:21.18 | dwalker | last time i had the issue, i solved it by downgrading by pure chance |
| 13:21.27 | dwalker | and it worked again, but im not sure if something has changed |
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| 13:22.02 | dwalker | but the bug is: WARNING: [pool 12145] server reached pm.max_children setting (8), consider raising it |
| 13:22.16 | dwalker | which i was not seeing in the older version |
| 13:22.24 | gen0 | Can .txt files have malware? |
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| 13:25.17 | OtakuSenpai | ,v apt-get-repository |
| 13:25.18 | judd | No package named 'apt-get-repository' was found in amd64. |
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| 13:25.48 | OtakuSenpai | is there any package named apt-get-repository ? |
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| 13:26.26 | OtakuSenpai | nvr mind |
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| 13:30.01 | abrotman | dwalker: you can submit the bug with your config, see if it can be reproduced (or you could try it on a different system) |
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| 13:35.27 | dwalker | the problem is hitting me on 81 servers |
| 13:35.30 | dwalker | out of 81 :P |
| 13:35.43 | dwalker | but they do all run the same exact config |
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| 13:39.21 | babilen | gen0: File names do not in any way have to correspond to their content |
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| 13:44.12 | dwalker | can someone let me know how to get more releases from a mirror? im using the snapshot as a repo, but it appears to only "grab" the first release from that mirror even though multiple versions are there when im browsing it |
| 13:44.30 | dwalker | eg read in 10 releases rather than 1 from the repo |
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| 13:48.54 | Pavr | help |
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| 13:50.17 | filePeter | Pavr: whatâs the matter? |
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| 13:56.50 | Pavr | filePeter, sorry meant to type /help and not "help" :) |
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| 13:58.34 | deemel | heh |
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| 14:08.52 | filePeter | Pavr: good to hear youâre not in trouble! ;-) |
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| 14:11.12 | eddard | How would a machine served by dnsmasq-dhcp through eth2 (10.10.4.1), whith explicit broadcast definition in /etc/network/interfaces for 10.10.4.1 end up with broadcast 10.10.5.255!? |
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| 14:13.49 | filePeter | eddard: What broadcast address did you want to set it to? Is there anything in the client logs? |
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| 14:15.34 | IbexPeak | ping |
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| 14:20.08 | LennyKitty | why does virtualbox 3d visualization suck compared to vmware |
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| 14:22.18 | SamsaraSoup | Hi guys. I've been trying for a couple of days to vnc into my Debian pc. All I get is a grey screen. I'm using tightvncserver. Any pointers would be appreciated. |
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| 14:23.33 | abrotman | a grey screen, or B&W alternating pixels? |
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| 14:24.16 | SamsaraSoup | abrotman, grey screen |
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| 14:27.18 | abrotman | SamsaraSoup: you may need to specify a window manager to execute |
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| 14:27.43 | fgrepper | Hello |
| 14:27.50 | fgrepper | I have a kali linux vm on a closed network with a server 2012 VM, but it will not accept the static IP settings and keeps giving a 192 address |
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| 14:28.07 | tomcres | !kali |
| 14:28.07 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
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| 14:28.47 | fgrepper | for some reason I cannot join the kali-linux channe; |
| 14:28.52 | SamsaraSoup | abrotman, I have "gnome-session &" at the end of my .vnc/xstartup |
| 14:29.18 | SamsaraSoup | abrotman, but it seems to be ignored |
| 14:30.03 | missmbob | fgrepper: you have to have a registered nick. /msg nickserv help |
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| 14:34.41 | anonymous422 | Hey, do u think learning C++ is hard? |
| 14:34.45 | SamsaraSoup | abrotman, sorry I don't know if you replied. I had to reboot. |
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| 14:35.27 | missmbob | !tell anonymous422 about ot |
| 14:35.59 | anonymous422 | missmbob, ?? |
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| 14:38.49 | LennyKitty | is there a fglrx(ati properitary video drivers) package for sid |
| 14:39.49 | missmbob | no. fglrx is no more |
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| 14:40.19 | missmbob | !radeon |
| 14:40.20 | dpkg | Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by AMD/ATI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Also ask me about <radeon firmware>, <radeon audio>. https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. For the proprietary driver, see <fglrx>. |
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| 14:41.19 | LennyKitty | oh wait sorry |
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| 14:41.28 | LennyKitty | this is a intel hd driver |
| 14:41.31 | LennyKitty | werid |
| 14:41.40 | LennyKitty | why wont vmware accept intel hd |
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| 14:48.16 | fgrepper | I am trying to join a debian VM to a closed network with another VM on 172.16.0.0 /16 network, but it seems itwill not accept the static IP settings |
| 14:48.27 | fgrepper | iface eth0 inet static address 172.16.8.20 netmask 255.255.0.0 network 172.16.0.0 |
| 14:48.54 | fgrepper | when i run ifconfig it is showing a 192 address, but when I ping the static IP from the other VM it is succesful. I cannot ping from linux vm to the other vm however |
| 14:49.11 | fgrepper | stopped/started networking and network-manager and ifdown/ifup the interface |
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| 14:49.34 | missmbob | fgrepper: you now claiming it's debian doesn't make it so. you already told us it's kali. ask them |
| 14:50.01 | missmbob | fgrepper: you not wanting to register a nick to be able to join their channel is not our problem. here it is off topic |
| 14:50.05 | fgrepper | kali is based on debian and afaik the network settings work the same way |
| 14:50.10 | fgrepper | i did register it is dead |
| 14:50.11 | missmbob | !based on debian |
| 14:50.12 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 14:50.19 | missmbob | fgrepper: read that ^ |
| 14:50.38 | fgrepper | fair enough, my apologies |
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| 14:51.12 | newbie22 | *:do you guys know it there is a irc channel for "outside plant engineering" ??? |
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| 15:10.55 | sine0 | is it possible to find out who owns an ip space using dig tools |
| 15:11.30 | sine0 | so you find an ip address and to find out that comcast owns the ip range (or w/e) |
| 15:12.35 | Pavr | dig -x |
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| 15:13.42 | Pavr | would return the ptr record for that ip address |
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| 15:14.15 | Pavr | but to see who owns that range you would need to look it up somewhere else. |
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| 15:23.09 | hubot | Hi! |
| 15:23.13 | hubot | I can't add ldap entry |
| 15:23.17 | hubot | http://paste.asie.pl/ywbM |
| 15:23.21 | hubot | Could not add object uid=exim,ou=users,dc=hubot,dc=pl |
| 15:23.22 | hubot | LDAP said:No such object |
| 15:23.22 | hubot | Error number:0x20 (LDAP_NO_SUCH_OBJECT) |
| 15:23.22 | hubot | Description:That object does not exist. |
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| 15:23.41 | stoned | https://youtu.be/SZCuv7tQ8pg |
| 15:23.51 | stoned | Oh whops |
| 15:23.56 | stoned | I thought I switche dto #music |
| 15:23.58 | stoned | ffs. |
| 15:26.06 | eddard | filePeter: I was assuming that 10.10.4.255 is proper for that subnet ... am grasping at straws becaus I cannot sort out my routing issues ... |
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| 15:31.25 | Dreaman | how to us full hd resolution free radeon driver |
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| 15:32.15 | zykotick9 | s/free/open/ |
| 15:32.56 | Dreaman | what is this |
| 15:33.08 | Dreaman | open sfdsfsfds/dfgdgd |
| 15:33.15 | Dreaman | and conf |
| 15:33.38 | Dreaman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:35.19 | Dreaman | evry distro work only debian not patadox |
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| 15:41.14 | Dreaman | bay lames going anhather distro |
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| 15:46.56 | dumbl3d0re | I've enabled two keyboard layouts in Debian Stretch, US and SE (Swedish). But after some time after I've switched over to the Swedish one I can only input characters (not letters, just arrows and other weird characters) into the run-filed (Mod4+r). I can use the mouse to some extent, but I cant do anything else with the keyboard. |
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| 15:48.18 | zykotick9 | dumbl3d0re: you don't need to crosspost between #d channel on both freenode/oftc... choose ONE to ask in at a time. |
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| 15:50.17 | dumbl3d0re | zykotick9: Yeah, mistakenly posted here before I noticed it was the wrong channel. |
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| 15:56.58 | gen0 | anyone can give me a tip of a cool notes program? I got alot of notes and I'm in search of something that lets you organise it in a stylish and awesome way. |
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| 16:13.07 | GPenguin | gen0: try for a start: apt-cache search notes | more |
| 16:13.42 | gen0 | ah cool. Thank you Penguin. |
| 16:13.49 | GPenguin | welcome :) |
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| 16:15.13 | abrotman | SamsaraSoup: I'd probably try something a bit simpler for testing |
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| 16:52.11 | gavit | How do I check my hdd support? |
| 16:52.43 | gavit | I installed proxmox (debian) on a dell server R720xd, but I can't config the hdd's as JBOD |
| 16:52.57 | gavit | so I setup 2x raid 0 with 1 disk |
| 16:53.02 | gavit | and configured ZFS on it |
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| 16:55.11 | SynrG | !proxmox |
| 16:55.11 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial ##proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
| 16:56.35 | gen0 | Random question for you guys. Do you have like an extra computer with windows when things simply wont work on debian? Like watching a movie on netflix rofl. |
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| 16:57.17 | gavit | gen0: I have a mac for home use |
| 16:57.21 | johnkeates | gavit: don't do ZFS on RAID it's stupid |
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| 16:57.22 | tomcres | gen0: I don't. IIRC btw, Netflix should work with Chrome |
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| 16:57.40 | johnkeates | gen0: no, i don't, i watch netflix on Debian |
| 16:57.48 | gavit | johnkeates: I dont want the raid. if I disable the raidcontroller I can't see the disks |
| 16:58.03 | johnkeates | gavit: you need the RAID disabled and the controller in HBA mode |
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| 16:58.18 | gen0 | chrome is in synaptic? |
| 16:58.19 | johnkeates | gavit: doesn't nave much to do with the OS, it's all in the HBA hardware |
| 16:58.27 | gen0 | How john? |
| 16:58.27 | johnkeates | gen0: no, download it from google's repo |
| 16:58.34 | tomcres | gen0: no, you'd have to install it yourself from google.com/chrome |
| 16:58.40 | gen0 | No never |
| 16:58.52 | johnkeates | gen0: ask in ZOL/ZFS and check google, it's pretty standard. On Dell, it usually turns out to need to be refreshed in IT mode |
| 16:59.03 | johnkeates | wait, that's for gavit |
| 16:59.10 | gavit | johnkeates: so I can't use the disks as JBOD because of the hardware controller? |
| 16:59.14 | johnkeates | yes |
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| 16:59.35 | johnkeates | also, don't use the term JBOD, the definition and the use by hardware vendors differ, it's ambiguous |
| 16:59.52 | johnkeates | gavit, : ask in ZOL/ZFS and check google, it's pretty standard. On Dell, it usually turns out to need to be refreshed in IT mode |
| 17:00.09 | gavit | IT mode? |
| 17:00.11 | johnkeates | the controller chip is usual an LSI and you can use normal LSI IT mode |
| 17:00.16 | johnkeates | IT = iscsi target |
| 17:00.22 | johnkeates | just google it |
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| 17:00.31 | johnkeates | PERC6 IT Mode or whatever your controller is |
| 17:00.39 | johnkeates | or duckduckgo it |
| 17:00.42 | johnkeates | or disconnect.me |
| 17:00.46 | johnkeates | or whatever i |
| 17:00.55 | johnkeates | it's not debian related, pure hardware and dell related |
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| 17:01.11 | gavit | johnkeates: yeah, I figured as much |
| 17:01.12 | johnkeates | HW RAID is made to work this way because of windows and it's idiotic storage options |
| 17:01.27 | johnkeates | since you can't trust windows with data, they push all the data storage and safeties into the hardware |
| 17:01.35 | gavit | haha |
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| 18:05.16 | gen0 | Is anyone familiar with macchanger? |
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| 18:07.50 | zykotick9 | gen0: why do you want macchanger? |
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| 18:11.09 | petn-randall | gen0: Probably several people. It's better to ask your actual question and people will chime in if they know. |
| 18:11.19 | gen0 | Because I do not like to be tracked. |
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| 18:11.45 | gen0 | I'm getting the error "no such device" so idk if I'm doing the code in the right way |
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| 18:11.57 | gen0 | Could anyone post how you perform it? |
| 18:12.00 | zykotick9 | gen0: you should probably see http://superuser.com/questions/510920/is-my-mac-address-public-when-browsing-the-internet#510928 to understand how little your computer's MAC matters on the internet |
| 18:12.05 | petn-randall | gen0: What are you doing exactly that triggers this message? |
| 18:12.59 | gen0 | macchanger -r mac=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX but with my normal mac adress |
| 18:13.04 | gen0 | Thank you zyko I will have a look at it. |
| 18:13.06 | petn-randall | zykotick9: You still might want to use public wifi access points without being recognized, so there are legitimate reasons to do that. |
| 18:13.51 | petn-randall | gen0: Check the syntax in 'man macchanger', this those settings contradict each other and you're not defining the interface. |
| 18:13.54 | zykotick9 | petn-randall: i guess. the only "use case" i'm _really_ aware of, it breaking into wireless networks :( <- thus my initial questoin ; |
| 18:13.58 | petn-randall | s/this// |
| 18:14.02 | discensa | is ftp.debian.org down? |
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| 18:15.27 | tomcres | discensa I'm able to connect |
| 18:15.36 | Vizva | me too |
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| 18:15.58 | petn-randall | zykotick9: legitimate use case: You regularly go to the same cafe to check in on the hotspot, and you don't want anyone (the owner, other guests) to be able to track that digitally. |
| 18:16.04 | discensa | ok thanks both. I'm getting a hit on all other mirrors but not on that one (101: Network is unreachable) |
| 18:16.12 | discensa | will use reboot magic |
| 18:16.39 | zykotick9 | petn-randall: oh, is _SEE_ your point - and i agree with it. it _IS_ a valid use case :) |
| 18:16.51 | zykotick9 | s/is _SEE_/i _SEE_/ |
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| 18:17.18 | petn-randall | discensa: Maybe the whole error message is important here |
| 18:17.34 | petn-randall | smells an improperly configured ipv6 interface. |
| 18:17.41 | gen0 | petn-randall: stil no sucess. I tried "macchanger --random" and there was no sucess |
| 18:17.49 | discensa | Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-backports/Release.gpg Cannot initiate the connection to ftp.debian.org:80 (2001:610:1908:b000::148:12). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) |
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| 18:17.58 | gen0 | i tried macchanger -r "my mac adress" and it says "no device" |
| 18:18.04 | discensa | petn-randall it actually gave up in the middle of downloading a package |
| 18:18.15 | petn-randall | checks off box on a bingo matrix. |
| 18:18.36 | petn-randall | gen0: You still have to define a device, like "eth0" or "wlan0". |
| 18:18.47 | petn-randall | gen0: macchanger doesn't magically know which interface you want to change. |
| 18:19.07 | gen0 | Sry I'm new to debian, but how should I post this? |
| 18:19.08 | tomcres | discensa: I'm not getting a ping6 response from that IP. But ftp.debian.org is working for me. It must be some kind of round-robin or random assignment. Perhaps keep trying? |
| 18:19.08 | petn-randall | discensa: does 'ping 2001:610:1908:b000::148:12' work from that machine? |
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| 18:19.37 | petn-randall | gen0: 'macchanger -r wlan0', assuming wlan0 is the interface you want to change the MAC address of. |
| 18:19.44 | discensa | petn-randall nope, says unknown host |
| 18:19.59 | discensa | will try patience :) |
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| 18:20.21 | gen0 | There we go :) Thank you so much for help |
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| 18:20.27 | Vizva | <petn-randall> buts a onknown host for me too |
| 18:20.42 | tomcres | discensa: Or just try a specific mirror |
| 18:20.57 | petn-randall | discensa: I'm guessing it won't work unless you properly set up IPv6 or fix the DNS lookup to prefer IPv4. |
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| 18:21.15 | petn-randall | gen0: Glad it worked out :) |
| 18:21.31 | Dagger | discensa: what does `wget http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-backports/Release.gpg` give? |
| 18:21.54 | gen0 | Switching from windows to debian is like giving birth to myself. Crawling atm, soon walking =D |
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| 18:22.16 | discensa | Dagger, hah funny, it downloaded and saved it |
| 18:22.23 | discensa | so it does work |
| 18:22.52 | Dagger | petn-randall: jessie shipped with a version of `ping` that only does v4 (stretch finally merges ping and ping6 though) |
| 18:23.11 | Dagger | discensa: if you retry apt-get, does it work now? |
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| 18:25.09 | discensa | Dagger, still doesn't no |
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| 18:25.34 | discensa | rebooting the server now |
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| 18:26.34 | petn-randall | Dagger: Ah, forgot about that. |
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| 18:27.54 | tacomaster | where is the debian stable package with firmware for wifi already installed? I know there is one but I cant find it |
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| 18:27.59 | discensa | thanks petn-randall and Dagger, after reboot it works as expected. Not sure what happened there |
| 18:28.26 | Dagger | weird that wget works but apt-get doesn't |
| 18:28.35 | Mr-Pink | I need help installing wireless drivers [rt2870] without Internet access |
| 18:29.13 | tomcres | dagger the wget was HTTP. Perhaps his APT is configured to use FTP. |
| 18:29.30 | Dagger | "Failed to fetch http://[...]" |
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| 18:29.47 | tomcres | Dagger: OK missed that :-) |
| 18:30.01 | Dagger | should be using https:// really but for some reason support for that is really bad on our mirrors :/ |
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| 18:30.37 | Dagger | Connecting to security.debian.org (security.debian.org)|2001:a78:5:0:216:35ff:fe7f:be4f|:443... failed: Connection refused. <-- I mean really |
| 18:30.41 | Dagger | certs aren't even hard these days |
| 18:31.15 | Mr-Pink | I have downloaded the drivers and a firmware file but i have no idea how to install them nicely I have tried to use the "make" command but it doesn't work |
| 18:32.11 | elliot007 | Mr-Pink: download the .deb packages and dependencies and install them using dpkg -i <package name> |
| 18:32.19 | discensa | Dagger, I think it might have been my own fault. apt took a long time to refresh (much longer than normal), so I pressed ctrl+c. after that it stopped working. But as I'm sshing into the machine, the connection might have had a brain fart. After that it stopped connecting to that one |
| 18:32.19 | gen0 | Is there any cool adds for the gnome desktop enviroment that makes it looks better? Abit more stylish and awesome. |
| 18:32.32 | elliot007 | you can search for packages here https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 18:32.44 | tomcres | gen0: have you been to extensions.gnome.org? |
| 18:33.10 | Mr-Pink | elliot007 thank you this is my first time with linux i will try that |
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| 18:33.21 | elliot007 | sure np |
| 18:33.53 | gen0 | ah nice one, maybe I will find something there. |
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| 18:34.42 | questions | hi.. can someone please explain this article to me : https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2063147 I cannot connect to any SMTP server. I am able to telnet into office365 smtp server but it is still not working with vsphere data protection. |
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| 18:40.04 | Mr-Pink | elliot007 should i run the dpkg command as root? |
| 18:40.44 | Mr-Pink | nvm. |
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| 18:41.43 | Mr-Pink | Rebooting now fingers crossed lol |
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| 18:51.56 | D8B8 | MLK was scum, JFK was scum, FDR was scum |
| 18:52.08 | D8B8 | :O |
| 18:52.13 | D8B8 | That came out wrong. That was, erm, sarcasm |
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| 18:52.32 | D8B8 | Got kicked from the channel it was meant for before it got sent :P |
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| 19:06.51 | Some_Person | I'm having trouble getting an L2TP server to work on a Raspberry Pi |
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| 19:09.31 | petn-randall | !raspbian |
| 19:09.31 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 19:09.45 | petn-randall | Some_Person: Try this channel ^^^ |
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| 19:15.40 | Some_Person | All right, thanks |
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| 19:27.54 | digital_ghost | I only used Fedora and Ubuntu before, today I stalled "Debian 8.7.1" using "CD image" (not the dvd one) on VBOX , all I getting now is a console screen. Why is there no GUI? |
| 19:28.29 | digital_ghost | I know this might sound silly and stupid. I am kind off noob |
| 19:28.55 | tomcres | digital_ghost: did you select a GUI during the install? |
| 19:29.18 | n4dir | during the installation, rather at the end, there is a part called "tasksel". During that you can install [] DE or omitt it. Did you choose it? |
| 19:29.19 | klys | digital_ghost, what grapics card |
| 19:29.58 | digital_ghost | n4dir: i think i left it blank [] |
| 19:30.18 | n4dir | at the login screen, tty, try the command "startx". If the message will be: no such program/command, you will have to install the GUI stuff you want. |
| 19:30.32 | n4dir | say: apt-get install xorg xfce4 lightdm or such |
| 19:30.57 | n4dir | you can of course use tasksel too, but i for one am not familiar with it. Isn't difficult, i simply don't do it |
| 19:31.16 | digital_ghost | n4dir: actually my grub is graphical , |
| 19:31.30 | tomcres | digital_ghost: which GUI would you like to have? It's pretty easy to install from the command line. |
| 19:31.33 | n4dir | digital_ghost: not gui, the login screen, after booting |
| 19:31.40 | klys | big difference there |
| 19:31.57 | n4dir | damnit: not *grub |
| 19:32.11 | thanatos-inc_ | digital_ghost: tasksel --list-tasks will list the desktops. Then tasksel install will install them. E.g.: taksell install xfce-desktop |
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| 19:32.58 | n4dir | only be aware that tasksel will include everything and the kitchen sink and installin the DE manually will be more small ... iirc |
| 19:33.03 | digital_ghost | k, thanks guys |
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| 19:33.16 | n4dir | some prefer it this way, some that way. |
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| 19:33.54 | digital_ghost | n4dir : i run command "startx" , i got an even bigger terminal (no gui) with cursor shaped "X" |
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| 19:34.20 | n4dir | thats odd |
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| 19:34.42 | klys | digital_ghost, is the x your mouse |
| 19:34.51 | tomcres | digital_ghost: that's the default configuration that ships with X. Don't worry about it. You just need to install the GUI of your choice. |
| 19:34.51 | n4dir | sounds like xorg is installed, but no or only a very minimal WM. But it isn't possible to get such with the installation medium, i think |
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| 19:38.08 | digital_ghost | klys:yes , my mouse cursor |
| 19:38.46 | thanatos-inc_ | n4dir: depends on the desktop. lxde and xfce are relatively slim. gnome and kde really stuff in everything. |
| 19:38.59 | klys | digital_ghost, pick a wimdow manager and apt-get install it |
| 19:39.14 | n4dir | thanatos-inc_: that doesn't intefer in tasksel being a different thing than doing apt-get install meta-DE packge |
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| 19:39.54 | n4dir | tasksel xfce might be small compared with kde, but still is quite some stuff compared with apt-get install xfce4 |
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| 19:42.04 | n4dir | i for one am not a big fan of the tasksel stuff, but i only use a handful of gui apps |
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| 19:48.06 | Iridos | for sure, but the things that don't get installed then may be something that's missing *shrug* |
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| 19:48.51 | tomcres | tasksel ensures a complete desktop experience |
| 19:48.59 | n4dir | sure Iridos. Like set: some like it this way, some that. |
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| 19:49.21 | n4dir | set. lol |
| 19:49.51 | thanatos-inc_ | tasksel gives sane preinstalled packages for most desktop users. ok, kde and gnome are really overkill, but most users who have a de won't mind. with the xfce tasksel, i find i don't have to remove much. |
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| 19:50.23 | n4dir | not sure if "for most" |
| 19:50.44 | n4dir | when i started using debian pretty much no one did it that way |
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| 19:51.31 | Iridos | n4dir, I just think disk size these days (and always?) is pretty big compared to installed-system size⦠and with all the wasteful programming going on, this would be the point where I'd most see the point of being wasteful |
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| 19:51.58 | thanatos-inc_ | Bbaaaack, in the ooooold daaaays, when debian was still debian... YAWN |
| 19:52.04 | wark | Anybody have wifi drag ass after moving to Jessie ? |
| 19:52.22 | tomcres | gosh I still remember bo :-) |
| 19:52.23 | n4dir | I didn't say that, thanatos-inc_ i only pointed out that "most" is not so sure |
| 19:53.28 | n4dir | from what i see quite a lot users still use WM's. But that is only an impression |
| 19:53.43 | Iridos | n4dir, we used to use more, but then found that less is better than more. But I don't think many people found it worth to switch to most ^ ^ |
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| 19:54.11 | n4dir | we used to use more? more what? |
| 19:54.14 | thanatos-inc_ | I said most desktop users. Don't twist it. |
| 19:54.28 | Iridos | more⦠the command line pager, of course ^ ^ |
| 19:55.08 | n4dir | this way or that way it won't hurt to keep in mind that the tasksel way is different than the apt-get install DE way |
| 19:55.21 | wark | Does systemd interfere with wifi networking somehow (when NetworkManager is not installed) ? I'm used to manually running wpa_supplicant and ifup wlan0. |
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| 19:56.24 | petn-randall | wark: no |
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| 19:57.16 | n4dir | and i never said anything about good old days or one way being better or such. |
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| 20:04.23 | no_gravity | Deleting files seems to be surprisingly slow. I deleted abou 30k files with the following statement and it took several minutes: find . -mtime +1 -exec rm {} \; |
| 20:04.31 | egrain | do you guys have an audio project? or maybe someone who can help me getting my midi keyboard to work with the soundblaster x-fi midi input/output? |
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| 20:05.12 | Iridos | no_gravity, substitute \; with + for starters |
| 20:05.17 | moonpunter | So the libgtk that my /usr/local/lib points at hasn't been updated modified since February 2016 |
| 20:05.57 | Iridos | no_gravity, actually, thinking again, there's even a -delete, iirc |
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| 20:06.26 | moonpunter | Could this be why certain apps are not finding symbols came about since then, and if so, how do I update this? I've already updated the library and seen the symbols do exist |
| 20:06.31 | tomcres | Iridos: yes, -delete |
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| 20:06.54 | no_gravity | Iridos: What does + do? |
| 20:07.05 | n4dir | moonpunter: debian doesn't use local |
| 20:07.11 | Iridos | I think the man-page says it better than I can |
| 20:07.54 | Iridos | executes with more than one file as an option |
| 20:08.27 | tomcres | no_gravity: ext4 is a little slower to delete files than other filesystems I've noticed. Are you using ext4 by chance? |
| 20:08.43 | n4dir | won't help here, i think, but is a gem in general: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind |
| 20:08.58 | armando | I'm assuming it's not advisable to enable jessie backports on stretch I'm trying to install pepperflashplugin-nonfree but it doesn't seem to be available in stretch |
| 20:10.04 | moonpunter | Okay, so where should these programs be looking for libraries? I mean I didn't tell it to do this, so whatever reason it's doing it, I need to fix it |
| 20:10.28 | missmbob | armando: it's not because it's broken |
| 20:10.29 | elliot007 | armando: for stretch #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 20:10.45 | no_gravity | tomcres: Yup, ext4 |
| 20:10.45 | moonpunter | okay I think this might work |
| 20:11.23 | moonpunter | update the symlink that the program is looking for to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu |
| 20:11.55 | tomcres | no_gravity: yeah, I usually use xfs. ext4 seems to be reasonably fast, except that deleting gobs of files is noticeably slower. It's normal, though. |
| 20:12.07 | no_gravity | I see |
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| 20:12.52 | missmbob | armando: see bug #841373 but it seems like it was too late for stretch |
| 20:12.53 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/841373 in pepperflashplugin-nonfree (closed): «mv: cannot stat 'unpackchrome/opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so': No such file or directory»; severity: critical; opened: 2016-10-20; last modified: 2017-01-16. |
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| 20:14.32 | maap | is there a tool to find font packages that provide glyphs for a certain code point? |
| 20:15.06 | awal1 | How to install 'suggests' of pkg A but not the recommends and suggests of the 'suggests' of pkg A? |
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| 20:16.00 | awal1 | A suggests B, B recommends C and suggests D ; I just want A and B, not C and D |
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| 20:20.22 | moonpunter | AND IT WORKED |
| 20:20.36 | moonpunter | well n4dir |
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| 20:20.50 | moonpunter | you may not have known you were helping me, but I overlooked this "doesn't use local" possibility all the way through |
| 20:21.20 | n4dir | odd. i thought it was pointeless to say it at all. but cool you sorted it. |
| 20:21.43 | moonpunter | it would be brilliant to know how the hell xfce4-terminal and a few others started choosing those symlinks; maybe i manually installed gtk at some point, or something |
| 20:22.10 | moonpunter | i'm glad i screwed up the install media |
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| 20:22.31 | moonpunter | and resolved to fix the pothole instead of repaving the highway |
| 20:23.43 | awal1 | missmbob, you think pepper will not enter testing? full freeze is February 5 |
| 20:24.09 | awal1 | if not, so no pepperflash and no flashplugin-nonfree for stretch :P |
| 20:24.10 | n4dir | moonpunter: yes, that is a good question. I for sure got no clue thouh |
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| 20:24.47 | awal1 | probably from stretch backports in a few months |
| 20:25.29 | missmbob | awal1: i doubt it'll get in stretch. yes, it sucks. |
| 20:26.32 | armando | missmbob: ah I see. I grabbed it from unstable all good |
| 20:26.36 | tomcres | sucks more that in 2017 flash is still necessary |
| 20:26.44 | awal1 | sound nice anyway, no adobe stuff in stretch :D |
| 20:27.17 | heston | since big browsers are dropping it, it should be off the net soon |
| 20:27.36 | awal1 | now that almost all websites are switching to html5, adobe decided to maintain flash plugin for linux/bsd again |
| 20:29.12 | tomcres | heston I would have thought that inavailability of flash on mobile would have killed it already :-/ |
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| 20:30.19 | awal1 | why adobe decided to maintain their plugin for linux again? |
| 20:30.21 | thanatos-inc_ | just curious, but what sites do you really need flash for? |
| 20:30.32 | missmbob | !ot |
| 20:30.32 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 20:30.33 | daemon | thanatos-inc_, porn and games pretty much |
| 20:30.49 | n4dir | now we talk |
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| 20:30.52 | somiaj | awal1: ask adobe, and they never really stoped mataining it, they just only worked to matain it for google chrome and let google distribute it. |
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| 20:31.03 | heston | tomcres, that's definitely a massive push. It's just going to be the odd site that did something well and was never updated |
| 20:31.23 | somiaj | awal1: but yes it is nice to have a newer napi plugin again. |
| 20:31.43 | thanatos-inc_ | missmbob: calm yourself. we are discussing alternatives available to debian users who don't want to use flash. |
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| 20:32.26 | thanatos-inc_ | there are many porn sites that use html5. the flash games were mostly pretty lackluster. not sure i miss them. |
| 20:32.41 | petn-randall | heston, n4dir, daemon, thanatos-inc_ and others please move this to #debian-offtopic. |
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| 20:33.05 | n4dir | no thanks. I really don't care for the subject |
| 20:34.19 | somiaj | The plugin still might make it to stretch, a patched version to get it from adobe was uploaded to sid last week, unsure why it hasn't updated the binary though. https://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/news/20170116T190542Z.html |
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| 20:35.48 | missmbob | somiaj: it was removed from testing after soft freeze. that's why |
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| 21:00.43 | grumper | hello |
| 21:01.01 | grumper | over here it says "Release delayed to include kernel 4.10" https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch#Debian_Stretch_Life_cycle |
| 21:01.21 | grumper | yet 4.10 is still in RC and the freeze is declared in less than 2 weeks |
| 21:01.42 | grumper | I can't seem to find an authoritative "stretch will have linux 4.x" writeupo |
| 21:01.45 | grumper | can someone help? |
| 21:01.47 | thanatos-inc_ | grumper: I think it was delayed to include the LTS kernel, which at that time was planned to be 4.10. Now that 4.9 is designated the LTS kernel, it will stay with 4.9 AFAIK. |
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| 21:02.16 | grumper | thanatos-inc_: but it is 4.8 as of the stretch rc1 installer |
| 21:02.27 | grumper | ( I am looking at an install screen right now ) |
| 21:02.33 | grumper | hence my utter confusion |
| 21:03.30 | thanatos-inc_ | grumper: I think they wanted to make a specific acception to include 4.9 - and only an exception for the kernel, no other packages. |
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| 21:06.05 | grumper | it's strange things are so "in the air" so close to the final freeze |
| 21:06.12 | grumper | thanatos-inc_: thanks for your help nevertheless |
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| 21:06.40 | thanatos-inc_ | well, I think the kernel will change. everything else will stay. np, glad to help. |
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| 21:08.03 | taylan | I have a non-graphical install of Debian. I'd like to be able to launch a regular GNOME desktop occasionally. what packages do I need to install, and what's the easiest way to start the DE? can I do it from xinitrc like I do with my simple tiling WM? |
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| 21:08.41 | tomcres | taylan: tasksel install gnome |
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| 21:11.36 | taylan | tomcres: that seems to cover the installation, neat. how about launching it? I don't want it to launch automatically; I'd still like the console login after boot after which I may want to start X.Org with my tiling WM or with GNOME |
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| 21:13.00 | tomcres | taylan: OK. In that case, you'll want to disable the graphical login and execute gnome-session from your .xinitrc |
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| 21:13.52 | taylan | will 'tasksel install gnome-desktop' automatically enable the graphical login? if so, how do I disable it? /etc/inittab? |
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| 21:18.12 | taylan | I hope it's normal that tasksel install is unresponsive for long periods of time... |
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| 21:22.58 | plujon | I am trying to install Debian 5.10 (yes, 5.10) because I want a virtual machine with some old software on it for testing purposes. Are there any mirrors that still contain packages from that release? |
| 21:23.12 | nkuttler | taylan: i never use tasksel.. do you see dpkg/apt running in top/htop/ps ? |
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| 21:23.27 | nkuttler | !tell plujon about archive |
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| 21:24.34 | taylan | nkuttler: hm, I think it hung up because I ran it from a dumb terminal. I see a debconf process. |
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| 21:25.55 | nkuttler | dumb terminal? |
| 21:26.19 | nkuttler | taylan: debconf can require interaction, depending on your config, and the default is a curses interface.. |
| 21:27.50 | taylan | yeah, ran it in xterm now, seeing a progress bar at least. I had ran it from M-x shell in emacs, which is a "dumb" terminal (TERM=dumb) and can't handle curses |
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| 21:30.42 | plujon | nkuttler: Thanks, so in /etc/apt/sources.list, do I put the following? deb-src http://archive.kernel.org/ lenny/updates main |
| 21:30.54 | plujon | s/deb-src/deb/ |
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| 21:32.09 | nkuttler | plujon: i don't use the archive |
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| 21:34.09 | awer101 | anyone able to comment on using hydra? |
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| 21:37.36 | plujon | deb http://archive.kernel.org/debian-archive/debian lenny main |
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| 21:42.16 | TomTomTosch | plujon: the debian archive also has deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 21:42.32 | TomTomTosch | plujon: the kernel.org archive doesn't seem to have that directory. |
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| 21:45.37 | TomTomTosch | not like security matters on a lenny system anyway... |
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| 21:57.57 | maap | is there a tool to find font packages that provide glyphs for a certain code point? |
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| 22:08.11 | teraflops | maap: nope afaik |
| 22:08.31 | maap | teraflops: thanks. |
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| 22:08.45 | maap | i wonder if that would be doable with the current 'Provides' system. |
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| 22:08.56 | teraflops | maap: if you have to run it locally how is it supposed to work with fonts that you dont have already in your system? |
| 22:09.15 | maap | teraflops: it could have been in the package info. |
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| 22:09.31 | teraflops | ugh |
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| 22:09.43 | teraflops | not sure it that's doable |
| 22:09.46 | teraflops | if* |
| 22:10.15 | maap | Provides: Unicode 0xABCD - 0xACFF |
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| 22:11.28 | teraflops | maap: not sure, considering that you won't need to install fonts from the package manager |
| 22:11.47 | randomgry | so i have a debian vps, it is enormously slow when opening files or typing into an irssi in screen, and i'm trying to find out why; 'top' and 'iotop' outputs are not so enlightening : http://dpaste.com/31ECFS5.txt (top); iotop takes more than a minute to even open.. i would like to troubleshoot this, any tips ? |
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| 22:11.59 | teraflops | I mean most people throw them into ~/.local/share/fonts |
| 22:12.26 | randomgry | http://dpaste.com/0M73Y3W.txt iotop |
| 22:12.40 | drm | in order do be able to dd an iso to a usb, the terminal wants me to use sudo. If i do in fact use sudo to put the image on the usb, does that make the usb read-only afterward? I want the usb to remain read-write, but it seems like sudo'ing things onto the usb seems to also add write-protection |
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| 22:14.13 | bub_ | drm, what? have you tried? |
| 22:14.38 | taylan | so tasksel install gnome-desktop was bad. it starts gdm at boot and I can log in but after that it's blank. |
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| 22:15.00 | maap | drm: aren't iso filesystems always read-only? |
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| 22:15.05 | taylan | first things first: how do I disable X.Org/gdm from starting at boot? |
| 22:15.21 | randomgry | uninstall xorg and gdm ? |
| 22:15.28 | taylan | without doing either of that |
| 22:15.31 | towo` | why uninstall? |
| 22:15.33 | drm | bub_, I dd'ed an image to a different usb stick and now that stick is write-protected and i cant seem to remove the write-protection, but i dont know if it was a consequence of sudo'ing the image onto it, and wanted to see what the communal wisdom was |
| 22:15.41 | towo` | systemctl disable gdm3.service |
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| 22:16.14 | taylan | thanks, lemme see if that worked |
| 22:16.15 | bub_ | drm, nah, that's not because of sudo |
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| 22:16.35 | bub_ | drm, at least I've never encountered that problem.. |
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| 22:17.23 | bub_ | I think many of us dd some .iso to usb-stick and boot it up.. hehe.. |
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| 22:18.47 | heston | drm, that's due to a poor quality flash drive that detected faults |
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| 22:19.17 | zykotick9 | drm: ahhhh 1) once on the usb, it'll be READONLY (just like a cdrom) and 2) using cp is actually easier then dd imo... |
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| 22:23.17 | pingouin | hello #debian |
| 22:23.23 | taylan | towo`: doesn't help. disabled gdm.service, didn't help either, even though it did something... |
| 22:23.31 | deeemel | hello pingouin |
| 22:23.59 | pingouin | where/how can i find older version of a file from the previous 'old stable' Wheezie i guess ? i'm looking for libasound_module_pcm_jack.so |
| 22:24.05 | taylan | ugh I wonder if I just remove the "task" again whether it would uninstall packages I want to keep |
| 22:24.07 | towo` | taylan, then maybe you dont another login manager? |
| 22:24.13 | towo` | grr |
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| 22:24.15 | towo` | you use |
| 22:24.24 | taylan | nope, gdm still started after boot |
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| 22:26.50 | towo` | you can even do systemctl mask gdm3.service |
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| 22:28.13 | taylan | will try... |
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| 22:31.19 | towo` | taylan, and if you don't wnat graphical login, why you don't purge gdm3? |
| 22:31.25 | pos | taylan, systemctl stop gdm && systemctl disable gdm |
| 22:32.07 | pos | taylan, alternatively systemctl blacklist gdm (which will prevent it from even manual launch) |
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| 22:32.55 | maap | towo`: doesn't the main gnome package depend on gdm3? |
| 22:33.04 | randomgry | http://dpaste.com/31ECFS5.txt (top) http://dpaste.com/0M73Y3W.txt iotop - a vps has when opening files or typing into an irssi in screen, and i'm trying to find out why .. these outputs are not so enlightening are they ? |
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| 22:33.12 | towo` | it's only a metapackage |
| 22:33.16 | towo` | so who cares? |
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| 22:33.43 | zykotick9 | o/ |
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| 22:35.32 | zykotick9 | towo`: and after that point ever time you run apt-get it'll say "these 500+ gnome packages where installed and no longer needed, run auto-remove to get rid of them" |
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| 22:36.25 | deAtog | I've configured my system to authenticate users via samba4's winbind service, and have setup php5-fpm to run as one of those users. Currently the php5-fpm service is failing to find the associated user upon start. I've been trying to determine when systemd starts winbind vs when it starts php5-fpm but it appears samba may not fully be under the control of systemd in Debian? Can someone point me in the correct direction for fixing this issu |
| 22:36.49 | taylan | towo`: even that didn't help. :\ |
| 22:36.57 | taylan | on other news, replacing the call to my WM with 'gnome-session' in my xinitrc works flawlessly |
| 22:37.29 | taylan | I even got a cool Baldur's Gate icon in my programs thingy because I have it installed via Wine, what a pleasent surprise! |
| 22:38.15 | maap | taylan: the programs menu is desktop-environment agnostic. |
| 22:38.16 | maap | i think. |
| 22:39.11 | taylan | only problem is to disable all the weird services tasksel enabled now |
| 22:39.50 | taylan | the time my system takes to boot just increased like 10x :P if I disable all those services though, I guess some also would be absent when I start gnome via gnome-session |
| 22:40.06 | taylan | (or maybe not, if gnome-session is that smart. we'll see) |
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| 22:41.38 | pingouin | oh my god...Baldur's gate... :) |
| 22:43.01 | pingouin | they have a native linux installer/files at the time.... |
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| 23:20.03 | zerohimself | hey guys, i've got a fsck question: ran this: "fsck.ext4 -cDfty -C 0 /dev/sdb1" on an umounted 3TB hdd |
| 23:20.20 | zerohimself | going on an hour with no output besides the e2fsck version |
| 23:20.47 | zerohimself | got some weird usb hub info in my dmesg |
| 23:21.02 | zerohimself | is there any way to verify if fsck is actually working? |
| 23:21.44 | petn-randall | zerohimself: You can probably check with iotop |
| 23:21.46 | zerohimself | dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/MxCBCiDh |
| 23:22.11 | zerohimself | trying now, ty |
| 23:23.23 | zerohimself | yep, it's doing something at 3.55 K/s... hmm thats weird |
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| 23:24.02 | petn-randall | zerohimself: And it's connected via USB? |
| 23:24.16 | zerohimself | yeah, usb3 |
| 23:25.06 | zerohimself | i started getting massive io errors on it 2 nights ago.. then next no problems.. then started getting IO's again.. |
| 23:25.26 | zerohimself | i'm thinking either the drive is dead, or the usb->sata bridge is dead |
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| 23:26.21 | petn-randall | zerohimself: I've noticed many buggy usb-sata bridges in my life, I'm putting my money on that. |
| 23:27.10 | zerohimself | i'm suspecting it too.. would just suck to loose a 3TB drive.. |
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| 23:29.53 | zerohimself | hmm.. both devices are getting reset according to the log.. but the other drive is scanning as it should be |
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| 23:36.17 | taylan | all I had to do was 'systemctl set-default multi-user.target' to disable graphical login. to enable it, 'systemctl set-defualt graphical.target' |
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| 23:40.15 | petn-randall | zerohimself: The HDD inside would still be ok, I assume. |
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