| 00:02.45 | gr8 | missmbob: ok thanks for the info. Is there any other web engine for qt that you can recommend? I tried QtWebkit but had difficulties with audio output there |
| 00:03.34 | missmbob | gr8: no. same problems. i just gave up |
| 00:04.34 | gr8 | missmbob: did you also had audio problems?? |
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| 00:07.07 | missmbob | i was speaking to "any other web engine". i also tried qtwebkit and it didnt work out. cant remember right now why |
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| 00:16.44 | nChomsky | Hello there. |
| 00:17.10 | nChomsky | I hope it is morning or evening to someone here XD. |
| 00:17.19 | nChomsky | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6379435e713389268fc7ab784fc27736 |
| 00:17.37 | nChomsky | I'm trying to install this package from debian testing. |
| 00:17.53 | nChomsky | I'm using Debian Stable. |
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| 00:18.01 | dvs | not a good idea |
| 00:18.03 | tomcres | why are you doing this? |
| 00:18.32 | nChomsky | It's Krita, I plan to use it for work. |
| 00:18.43 | tomcres | ,v krita |
| 00:18.44 | nChomsky | AS a substitute for Photoshop. |
| 00:18.44 | judd | Package: krita on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:2.4.4-3; jessie: 1:2.8.5+dfsg-1+b2; sid: 1:3.1.1+dfsg-1; stretch: 1:3.1.1+dfsg-1 |
| 00:19.02 | tomcres | and what is wrong with jessie's version of krita? |
| 00:19.27 | nChomsky | Well, TO BE FAIR, |
| 00:19.40 | nChomsky | I haven't tested it. |
| 00:19.53 | nChomsky | And all the new features are shiny. |
| 00:20.01 | dvs | !sns |
| 00:20.02 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 00:20.21 | nChomsky | Hahahaha! |
| 00:20.32 | nChomsky | But come on, seriously. |
| 00:20.48 | nChomsky | How come it conflicts with everything GNOME? |
| 00:21.10 | tomcres | because you're trying to mix two different versions of an operating system. it's not meant to work that way. |
| 00:21.22 | nChomsky | Hm! |
| 00:21.27 | nChomsky | So... |
| 00:21.42 | nChomsky | I would have to be using Debian testing... |
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| 00:22.06 | nChomsky | Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves, you're right. |
| 00:22.12 | tomcres | if you don't know better than to do this, you really shouldn't be running testing |
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| 00:22.30 | nChomsky | Let's give the good ol' Kirta 2.8 a chance... |
| 00:22.50 | nChomsky | Thanks anyway. |
| 00:22.52 | nChomsky | XD |
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| 00:23.35 | nChomsky | Just to be clear! |
| 00:23.51 | nChomsky | I wouldn't be able to get to 3.1 through backports, right? |
| 00:24.04 | tomcres | no, there is no backport available |
| 00:24.11 | tomcres | ,checkbackport krita |
| 00:24.22 | nChomsky | : *( |
| 00:24.28 | judd | Backporting package krita in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libgsl-dev, extra-cmake-modules (>= 1.7.0), qtbase5-dev (>= 5.4.0), libqt5svg5-dev (>= 5.4.0), libqt5x11extras5-dev (>= 5.4.0), libkf5archive-dev (>= 5.7.0), libkf5completion-dev (>= 5.7.0), libkf5config-dev (>= 5.7.0), libkf5coreaddons-dev (>= 5.7.0), libkf5crash-dev (>= 5.7.0), libkf5guiaddons-dev |
| 00:24.29 | judd | (>= 5.7.0), libkf5i18n-dev (>= 5.7.0), libkf5itemmodels-dev (>= 5.7.0), libkf5itemviews-dev (>= 5.7.0), libkf5kio-dev (>= 5.7.0), libkf5widgetsaddons-dev (>= 5.7.0), libkf5windowsystem-dev (>= 5.7.0). |
| 00:24.30 | nChomsky | Ok, thanks! |
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| 00:48.05 | Pr0metheus | not a technical question, but....can anyone identify the gnome used in this picture: https://camo.githubusercontent.com/bc3954d1f31bb15ccebb91c4320ff43a815018a1/68747470733a2f2f7261772e6769746875622e636f6d2f557368616b6f76566173696c69692f676e6f6d652d7368656c6c2d657874656e73696f6e2d6672656f6e2f6d61737465722f696d672f70616e656c5f6d656e752e6a7067 |
| 00:48.18 | Pr0metheus | gnome theme |
| 00:48.32 | bazhang | no |
| 00:49.14 | tomcres | looks like standard adwaita |
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| 00:52.38 | Pr0metheus | tomcres looked it up, seems like it in a very old version |
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| 01:02.41 | brimonk | Does anyone know if the xbox one controller is supported in Debian stable? If it is, how can I set it up? |
| 01:02.48 | brimonk | Preferably without recompiling my kernel. |
| 01:04.35 | tomcres | you need kernel >= 3.17; unfortunately jessie (stable) has 3.16, BUT you can get a later version from backports |
| 01:04.42 | tomcres | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 01:04.43 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; jessie-backports: 4.8+77~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.9+78; sid: 4.9+78 |
| 01:04.48 | brimonk | Damn. |
| 01:04.50 | brimonk | Thanks. |
| 01:05.54 | brimonk | Let's say that I want to compile my own kernel, is there a way to easily remove it once I'm done with it? |
| 01:05.55 | missmbob | ,xboxdrv |
| 01:06.24 | tomcres | brimonk: why compile your own kernel? it's much easier to install a newer one from backports |
| 01:06.35 | brimonk | That's true. |
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| 01:07.37 | brimonk | And I can just remove the backported linux kernel when I'm done with it? |
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| 01:10.15 | missmbob | if you're bored. this "i dont need it right now, toss it" mentality will get you in trouble if it hasnt already |
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| 01:13.19 | brimonk | I would honestly prefer a udev driver for it... |
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| 01:19.00 | goto- | ohai |
| 01:20.44 | goto- | I have an Lenovo X201t with Wacom Digitizer. Earlier (a year ago) the digitizer was automatically recognized. But as I installed Debian 8 Jessie via cd image on it, the digitizer was not recognized. Any idea? |
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| 01:23.05 | epsilon | standard way is to run lsusb/lspci and install the driver/firmware |
| 01:23.31 | epsilon | check if you have contributed/non-free as source |
| 01:26.16 | goto- | epsilon: installed xserver-xorg-input-wacom |
| 01:26.31 | goto- | logged out & in no detection |
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| 01:28.40 | missmbob | of course there's no detection. you still havent listened to tomcres and upgraded the kernel from jessie-backports |
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| 01:31.46 | goto- | missmbob: ? |
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| 01:32.02 | goto- | missmbob: there was a working detection |
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| 01:45.46 | goto- | ok, it just started working |
| 01:45.47 | goto- | I don't no why, but it works |
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| 02:24.46 | mad_hatter | hey folks...so i downloaded the firmware debian .iso and for some reason, its still not able to setup network conectivity in the installer |
| 02:24.51 | mad_hatter | is there something im doing wrong? |
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| 02:28.23 | Kafei | mad_hatter: Who manufactures your wifi card |
| 02:29.12 | mad_hatter | realtek |
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| 02:30.21 | Kafei | You probably need the realtek-firmware package which isn't in the nonfree firmware Debian CDs (idk why) |
| 02:30.54 | Kafei | If you're able to, just plug yourself in for the install and grab that after |
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| 02:31.07 | mad_hatter | can't, no network cable :( |
| 02:31.22 | Kafei | Or load it in the installer beforehand (idk how, but I'm sure you've seen the installer ask if you've got extra usb media) |
| 02:31.38 | mad_hatter | ive only got one usb drive |
| 02:31.57 | mad_hatter | is there a way that i can load the realtek-firmware package onto the same usb as the network installer .iso |
| 02:32.04 | Kafei | I'm not sure if the installer needs you to point it to a separate partition for it to load stuff |
| 02:32.13 | Kafei | or a separate device |
| 02:32.22 | Kafei | You might be able to create an extra partition on that same device |
| 02:32.45 | Kafei | But that's as far as my knowledge goes, hopefully someone else is around who can help |
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| 02:34.07 | mad_hatter | alrighty, thanks |
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| 02:45.39 | jak2000 | hi why cant install curl? http://pastebin.com/QinPrkqf any advice? |
| 02:47.02 | missmbob | yeah...that's not a curl problem :P |
| 02:47.28 | missmbob | did you at one point try to remove udev? |
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| 02:48.53 | mad_hatter | Kafei: do you have a link to the realtek-nonfree firmware for debian? |
| 02:49.06 | mad_hatter | er...the realtek firmware package? |
| 02:49.11 | missmbob | it's firmware-realtek |
| 02:49.47 | missmbob | nm. one sec |
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| 02:50.01 | mad_hatter | missmbob: nevermind, I found it |
| 02:50.23 | missmbob | my vision is really blurry today. not making things easy |
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| 02:52.30 | jak2000 | missmbob remove udev? |
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| 02:53.23 | missmbob | yeah. that's what's killing everything. how you did that i dont know |
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| 02:53.55 | Kafei | jak2000: I don't believe that was a suggestion for you to now remove udev, just in case that was misinterpreted |
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| 03:03.38 | eliotime | Thunderbird will arrive to Debian in the version 52 ESR? |
| 03:03.59 | mad_hatter | missmbob: do you have a link to the realtek firmware package for jessie in .tar.gz format? or can i use the .deb format? |
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| 03:05.49 | gnoss | hey, what should -raAd generally do? |
| 03:05.52 | Kafei | mad_hatter: Which version are you using |
| 03:06.07 | Kafei | stable, testing, sid |
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| 03:07.07 | mad_hatter | what do you mean which version? |
| 03:07.10 | mad_hatter | version of jessie? |
| 03:07.19 | Kafei | nvm, jessie was the answer |
| 03:07.23 | mad_hatter | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-realtek |
| 03:07.26 | mad_hatter | ^^ that's what i have |
| 03:07.49 | gnoss | debian dog jesse |
| 03:07.50 | missmbob | mad_hatter: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-realtek_0.43_all.deb |
| 03:08.06 | gnoss | jessie, nvm |
| 03:09.04 | mad_hatter | alright...so basically all i need to do now is create 2 partitions on the usb drive -- one for the netinstall.iso and one for the firmware |
| 03:09.17 | Kafei | mad_hatter: I highly doubt we have the same hardware but fwiw I had to install firmware-atheros as well as firmware-realtek before my wifi would work |
| 03:09.57 | Kafei | But I'm not sure if the installer will accept a .deb as your missing firmware file |
| 03:10.06 | Kafei | As you asked a minute ago |
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| 03:11.19 | mad_hatter | yeah im not sure eitehr |
| 03:11.32 | mad_hatter | which is why i was curious if anyone knew of a .tar.gz version of that file |
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| 03:12.23 | debn00b | hello people, I just got Lenovo Ideapad laptop |
| 03:12.42 | Kafei | It also looks like the Jessie backports version of nonfree firmwares is just as updated as the one in testing and unstable |
| 03:12.48 | missmbob | the installer will accept deb but you can download .ts if you want |
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| 03:12.52 | debn00b | I am unable to setup wifi on it, have installed firmware etc |
| 03:12.54 | jak2000 | debn00b wich model? |
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| 03:12.57 | jak2000 | the price? |
| 03:13.01 | debn00b | but still can't see wifi |
| 03:13.02 | Kafei | I might grab the backported one in case that helps |
| 03:13.21 | debn00b | lenovo ideapad 300 15 inches |
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| 03:13.35 | Kafei | Those use Intel's wifi cards, don't they? |
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| 03:14.31 | missmbob | mad_hatter: http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-nonfree_20161130.orig.tar.xz http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-nonfree_20161130-2.dsc http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-nonfree_20161130-2.debian.tar.xz |
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| 03:15.04 | debn00b | yes Kafei |
| 03:15.17 | mad_hatter | Thanks missmbob |
| 03:15.41 | debn00b | Kafei firmware-iwlwifi is installed |
| 03:16.29 | debn00b | iwconfig says no wireless extension |
| 03:16.40 | missmbob | heh |
| 03:16.51 | missmbob | /sbin/ifconfig -a shows wlan0? |
| 03:16.57 | debn00b | no |
| 03:17.06 | missmbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.06 | Kafei | What about wlp3s0 |
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| 03:18.29 | Kafei | I have a newer Lenovo but it has Intel's 8265 card, not the 31xx |
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| 03:18.33 | Kafei | Would that make a difference in firmware |
| 03:18.39 | Deb8n00b | am here, no wlan0 |
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| 03:18.44 | Kafei | slash are you certain which card you've got |
| 03:20.10 | Deb8n00b | I have just inserted the driver CD |
| 03:21.25 | Deb8n00b | here is the info http://pastebin.com/eTLhYSpR |
| 03:21.29 | Deb8n00b | about wlan |
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| 03:29.02 | Kafei | https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi |
| 03:29.17 | Kafei | Make sure your installation is using a recent enough kernel maybe |
| 03:29.21 | Kafei | Just a guess after I googled |
| 03:29.43 | Kafei | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:29.43 | Kafei | Intel® Wireless 3165 (4.1) |
| 03:29.49 | missmbob | there's backported ones in jessie-backports |
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| 03:30.06 | Kafei | That too, which I'd definitely recommend |
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| 03:31.51 | mad_hatter | Kafei: should I format the usb for 2 partitions first before copying over any files? or should i just copy the netinstall.iso to the usb first with cp |
| 03:31.57 | mad_hatter | and THEN create a new partition for the firmware? |
| 03:32.16 | Kafei | I'm not sure, I always got annoyed enough to just plug in an ethernet cord at that point |
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| 03:32.31 | mad_hatter | lmao, trust me i would if that was an available option |
| 03:32.41 | mad_hatter | at least this way im refurbishing my fdisk chops |
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| 03:41.51 | jak2000 | anyone can help me: http://pastebin.com/52WA762s last lines please |
| 03:41.55 | jak2000 | why i get errors? |
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| 03:51.22 | RickHull | the errors at the bottom probably have to do with all the hot garbage at the top |
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| 04:05.52 | jak2000 | RickHull i ant upgrade my system how to? |
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| 04:06.46 | CodeMachine | Hey. How do I move a file to folder "home" ? I do not have permission, only root. |
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| 04:13.21 | peterrooney | CodeMachine: More context, please. many situations can cause that. First _guess_ : you do not have permission to remove from original directory. |
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| 04:53.23 | ToiLTP | how do you `source` a file in debian? |
| 04:54.35 | klys | toiltp, $ . file.sh |
| 04:54.59 | jak2000 | i need install curl |
| 04:55.03 | jak2000 | but cant: http://pastebin.com/NwWNWC2n |
| 04:55.06 | jak2000 | any advice? |
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| 04:56.05 | ToiLTP | klys, doesn't seem to work |
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| 04:56.59 | mad_hatter | how do you drop to a shell during debian installation? |
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| 04:57.42 | klys | mad_hatter, left-alt + f2 |
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| 04:58.15 | klys | jak2000, paste the standardized comments near the top of your custom initscripts in /etc/init.d/* |
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| 04:59.09 | klys | toiltp, who or what told you to source file.sh ? |
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| 05:00.28 | klys | toiltp, this is because I don't know should it be working in a way you need it to |
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| 05:01.43 | mad_hatter | klys: thanks |
| 05:01.56 | klys | sure |
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| 05:04.05 | mad_hatter | klys: do you know if debian has a complete install.iso |
| 05:04.12 | mad_hatter | ? |
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| 05:04.46 | klys | perhaps older versions did. these days the complete install is on a set of .iso images. |
| 05:05.06 | mad_hatter | yeah thats what i need |
| 05:05.07 | jak2000 | klys: http://pastebin.com/bhiGND4B |
| 05:05.17 | mad_hatter | i dont havea bunch of blank cd's |
| 05:05.20 | mad_hatter | just a single usb drive |
| 05:06.36 | klys | jak2000, find /etc/rc?.d | grep Glass |
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| 05:07.12 | jak2000 | http://pastebin.com/GpiA4waN |
| 05:07.27 | klys | mad_hatter, and you want an .iso? I don't really know how to run an .iso from a usb drive myself. |
| 05:07.32 | Rusty1_ | mad_hatter: netinstall not an option? |
| 05:07.54 | mad_hatter | Rusty1_: no...the installer doesn't support my net card |
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| 05:18.49 | jak2000 | klaas? |
| 05:18.53 | jak2000 | klys? |
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| 05:20.20 | klys | hi |
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| 05:20.58 | klys | jak2000, where did those files come from? did you put them there? |
| 05:21.08 | klys | each file that's there needs the comment aat the top |
| 05:21.14 | klys | at* |
| 05:21.52 | name_not_defined | anyone running debian stable using a SSD? |
| 05:22.02 | dubbaluga | Hi, does anyone of you know, what's wrong with my chromium in debian unstable? I cannot install extensions because "installation is not enabled". |
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| 05:27.13 | sypher | name_not_defined: What is your actual issue? |
| 05:27.44 | jak2000 | not put |
| 05:27.50 | jak2000 | can i remove? |
| 05:28.01 | sypher | dubbaluga: This channel provides support for debian stable. |
| 05:28.15 | klys | jak2000, you should remove them, yes. |
| 05:28.18 | sypher | !tell dubbaluga about testing |
| 05:28.21 | sypher | !tell dubbaluga about unstable |
| 05:28.58 | dubbaluga | sypher: Oh, I see, thx for the hint! |
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| 05:30.46 | musick | howdoyoudo! how long time ago Yst has been present on channel? |
| 05:31.10 | musick | where to find him? |
| 05:31.17 | musick | or her? |
| 05:31.57 | name_not_defined | sypher: trying to figure out what ssd to buy to put debian stable on. Looked at the blacklist for ssds mentioned on the ssd optimization wiki page and am currently confused about the list |
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| 06:15.31 | kingsley | When pointed at a Sansa Fuse USB MP3 player, why would the "cfdisk" command say it can partition "any block device", and show the MP3 player's partition table, but the mount command says "/dev/sd"<xx>" is not a block device"? |
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| 06:17.01 | kingsley | Hmmmm. |
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| 06:18.12 | kingsley | "mount /dev/sd"<letter> "/media/usb0" with no partition number didn't report an error... |
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| 06:19.50 | kingsley | I'd expected to need to also type a partition number, like, for example... |
| 06:20.09 | kingsley | mount /dev/sdd3 /media/usb0 |
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| 06:29.57 | kingsley | Now my sound card isn't recognized... :-/ |
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| 06:34.07 | klys | kingsley, are you running udev ? |
| 06:34.30 | kingsley | klys: Thanks for asking. |
| 06:34.37 | kingsley | Yes, indeed I am. |
| 06:34.45 | kingsley | And pulseaudio. |
| 06:34.58 | klys | kingsley, what is the output of "lspci | grep Audio" |
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| 06:35.31 | kingsley | klys: Well, well, well! |
| 06:36.04 | kingsley | I'm happy to report that lspci lists a card that looks like what I remember my sound card being. |
| 06:36.46 | klys | kingsley, next step is to find your sound card's identity in a Kconfig at kernel.org |
| 06:37.09 | kingsley | Why? |
| 06:39.05 | klys | https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/sound/pci/Kconfig |
| 06:40.45 | kingsley | klys: Maybe I owe you an apology. |
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| 06:40.56 | klys | kingsley, then you can sudo modprobe something like snd_hda_codec_realtek |
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| 06:42.25 | kingsley | Through no fault of your own, I had not yet mentioned that my pre-existing software and hardware recognized the sound card and used it until about a hour ago. |
| 06:43.30 | klys | kingsley, if your kernel locks up or something weird happens when you modprobe snd_hda_codec_* then just be ready I suppose. |
| 06:43.58 | kingsley | I'd be surprised if a kernel module stopped loading. |
| 06:44.00 | klys | kingsley, you can find currently attached alsa modules with "lspci | grep snd" |
| 06:44.13 | klys | erm |
| 06:44.19 | klys | kingsley, you can find currently attached alsa modules with "lsmod | grep snd" |
| 06:44.22 | klys | sry |
| 06:44.28 | klys | =) |
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| 06:45.40 | kingsley | Yeah, coincidentally, I was just grepping though lsmod's output. |
| 06:45.43 | klys | if the modules for your sound card are in the list, and you can't run alsamixer, then look at "dmesg | less" to see what happened |
| 06:46.07 | kingsley | I have plenty of audio related modules loaded, including one named "snd". |
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| 06:46.27 | kingsley | That looks reasonable. I'll try it,. |
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| 06:47.37 | kingsley | Well, well, well! |
| 06:47.46 | kingsley | dmesg says... |
| 06:48.04 | kingsley | snd_ens1371 0000:03:05.0: cannot find the slot for index 0 (range 0-0), error: -16 |
| 06:48.17 | kingsley | snd_ens1371: probe of 0000:03:05.0 failed with error -16 |
| 06:50.48 | kingsley | klys: Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts. |
| 06:51.00 | jak2000 | klys? |
| 06:51.18 | klys | please check the MODULE_PARM parameters in snd_ens1371.c or related source file at the above repository, look for something like position_fix=2 |
| 06:51.51 | klys | jak2000, have you removed the above files and tried again? |
| 06:53.47 | jak2000 | yes |
| 06:53.51 | jak2000 | and installed :) |
| 06:53.53 | jak2000 | thanks |
| 06:53.58 | klys | k |
| 06:55.15 | jak2000 | wich is the problem |
| 06:55.18 | jak2000 | can you explain? |
| 06:55.18 | jak2000 | pls |
| 06:56.36 | klys | jak2000, is there a problem? |
| 06:57.47 | jak2000 | no |
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| 06:58.59 | jak2000 | but you |
| 06:59.04 | jak2000 | how to detected the problem? |
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| 06:59.39 | klys | read about sysvinit. it loads /etc/inittab and then everything in /etc/rc?.d |
| 07:00.40 | jak2000 | ok |
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| 08:42.40 | noqnio1 | Good morning everyone. Lately tracker-miner-fs is eating up lots of cpu and hdd at every boot. If i try to apt-get remove tracker it also wants to remove gnome-core and task-gnome-desktop. How do i only remove tracker? |
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| 10:32.20 | gr8 | someone told me to install the debug symbols of some library (which I did) and then look at the backtrace. Do I need to recompile the entire program first? |
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| 10:37.12 | volter | gr8: No |
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| 10:55.49 | unborn | noqnio1: I dont know how to remove it but you can disable it |
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| 10:57.37 | unborn | noqnio1: in preferences > search and there disable what you dont want to be tracked. also click on cog icon in bottom of window (in gnome) and turn off folders which you dont want to be tracked. this should do the job for you so cpu wont go high |
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| 11:05.53 | unborn | noqnio1: or perhaps http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=117949 |
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| 11:25.07 | iluminator105 | i need a weather applet that i do not need to register to one i was using does not work any more any suggestions |
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| 11:28.08 | SynrG | iluminator105: my suggestion is that you use punctuation. |
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| 11:28.56 | iluminator105 | dude that was straight English |
| 11:29.05 | SynrG | it was almost palpably painful to parse your unpunctuated inquiry :p |
| 11:29.33 | SynrG | shrugs |
| 11:29.35 | SynrG | just saying |
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| 11:30.38 | romancer | Is it safe to install Debian 9 now and update to release after 5th of Feb? |
| 11:31.04 | iluminator105 | well taken, I suppose I could add a period or two every, now and then. No feminine products sold here period. |
| 11:31.23 | SynrG | romancer: "safe" is a tricky word |
| 11:31.30 | themill | iluminator105: grow up, thanks. |
| 11:31.37 | petn-randall | romancer: Only if you're willing to beta-test our upcoming release, and fix/report bugs on the way. |
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| 11:31.44 | SynrG | romancer: safe, as in, "can i do this and expect to have no issues due to running testing?" no, |
| 11:31.52 | themill | romancer: stretch doesn't magically improve on Feb 5 btw. The release is months away |
| 11:32.03 | n4dir | I don't think there will be a release 5th of Feb, or after that. And, like SynrG already said, "safe" depends on what exactly one expects (imho it is safe ... but ... ) |
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| 11:33.42 | romancer | Let's say comparing to FreeBSD, it was very smooth experience of updating from RC to 'release'. Is something similar expected with Debian, or things likely to break? |
| 11:33.55 | noqnio1 | unborn: i have already disabled it.. |
| 11:33.57 | romancer | From https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch : 2017-02-05: Full freeze |
| 11:34.08 | themill | freeze â release |
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| 11:34.38 | themill | the upgrades will be fine. There's a reason it's not released though and if the bugs that aren't fixed annoy you then you're not going to be happy |
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| 11:43.51 | romancer | "As of 2016-07-14, upgrading to Stretch from Jessie seems to remove some packages that are needed to run Gnome" |
| 11:43.54 | romancer | Nice! |
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| 12:27.46 | realies` | hi all |
| 12:28.25 | klys | hi |
| 12:28.37 | realies` | I've just installed a debian jessie as a home servier |
| 12:28.39 | realies` | *server |
| 12:29.03 | realies` | I wonder what's a good approach in separating your services from the bare os? |
| 12:29.21 | klys | realies`, read up on sysvinit |
| 12:29.38 | realies` | klys, thanks! |
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| 12:30.03 | realies` | someone said docker, but I've read bad things about getting images from all over the place |
| 12:30.38 | realies` | I assume sysvinit is like chroot? |
| 12:30.47 | klys | it's pid 1 |
| 12:30.52 | realies` | ok |
| 12:31.20 | realies` | so the first thing that initialises on the system |
| 12:31.41 | klys | yes, and it has an approach to loading things that I would like you to know. |
| 12:32.59 | realies` | :)) |
| 12:33.50 | themill | of course you're probably using systemd not sysvinit so while some concepts have obvious parallels, the documentation won't match what you have sitting in front of you |
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| 12:36.22 | storm__ | hey all |
| 12:36.25 | klys | hi |
| 12:36.31 | storm__ | problem with |
| 12:36.37 | storm__ | init armitage |
| 12:36.45 | storm__ | kali rolling 2016.2 |
| 12:37.08 | petn-randall | !kali |
| 12:37.08 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 12:37.13 | klys | there should be a channel devoted to kali, what brings you here? |
| 12:37.17 | storm__ | fatal password authentication |
| 12:37.17 | petn-randall | storm__: You can find the right channel up here ^^^. |
| 12:37.23 | storm__ | ok thanks |
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| 12:41.55 | realies` | klys, which I've read that it is the first thing it starts on the system and the goes and initialises different services, did you mean for me to read something more specific? |
| 12:42.21 | jklmnop1 | Hi! Can someone please tell me the name of a program on Debian 8 (64bit) to compress one or few files with a high rate of compression that preferrably can also be handled by Winzip/Winrar/7zip on Windows hosts please? If possible including full set of parameters too..that'd be great :P Thanks anyway ! |
| 12:42.32 | jklmnop1 | (.gzip or .tar .. kinda files and such should be openable by Winrar or similar on Windows, for example --I think) |
| 12:42.35 | realies` | themill, good point, not sure what klys wants me to know :) |
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| 12:43.05 | realies` | jklmnop1, zip? |
| 12:43.32 | jklmnop1 | hm..yeah I guess.. that does a decent work with compressing (size) yeah..? |
| 12:44.15 | jklmnop1 | btw.. I compiled a .c file using "x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc inputfile.c -o outputfile.exe --static" -- any idea if that may be correct, hoping to end with a file being able to run on a Windows host afterwards..? :d |
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| 12:46.27 | klys | realies`, you should understand runlevels and how to use them to manage your services |
| 12:46.45 | themill | klys: why? |
| 12:47.05 | realies` | how's that related to separation of service from the bare os? |
| 12:47.09 | klys | themill, the original question was how to separate your services from the kernel as such |
| 12:47.29 | themill | no it wasn't (and it's not an answer to that question either) |
| 12:47.51 | realies` | from what I've read I'd probably know when/how to start my services/container |
| 12:48.06 | realies` | s |
| 12:48.07 | klys | the services are tied into the system and there is only the initialization process there to link them |
| 12:48.41 | themill | realies`: what sort of separation are you trying to achieve and why? |
| 12:48.54 | realies` | but what if for example I want to have an owncloud/seafile service on the box and want it to be running in isolation? |
| 12:49.16 | themill | depends what "isolation" means |
| 12:49.19 | klys | then you will need a custom initscript to start it that way |
| 12:49.20 | towo` | then docker or lxc would fit your needs |
| 12:49.20 | realies` | themill, mainly of security reasons, and the fact that if I get something wrong I won't have to deal with OS cleanup but container cleanup |
| 12:49.38 | realies` | or perhaps container recreation |
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| 12:50.11 | realies` | klys, so far I've been putting things in bashrc :P |
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| 12:50.43 | romancer | realies`, Fre<ahem>SD jails. |
| 12:50.44 | klys | realies`, the initscripts are symlinks from /etc/rc?.d/* to /etc/init.d/* |
| 12:51.17 | realies` | romancer, I've heard about jails but though that's a BSD thing |
| 12:51.18 | klys | you would put your initscript in there and affix it to the appropriate runlevel. |
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| 12:51.51 | klys | you would use it to initiate your chroot jail |
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| 12:52.22 | realies` | so chroot is similar to the bsd jail, right? |
| 12:52.50 | klys | realies`, chroot is the bsd jail afaik. are you aware of a difference there between linux and bsd? |
| 12:53.25 | realies` | not aware of the differences |
| 12:53.52 | klys | in any case, when you start the process via chroot, your pid should still be visible to the rest of the system. |
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| 12:59.24 | realies` | so can processes from chroot get beyond chroot? |
| 13:00.04 | klys | realies`, I really don't see how. |
| 13:03.02 | jklmnop1 | try google like "chroot escape"+2016 +poc or such |
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| 13:04.04 | PhilMitSkill | Hello |
| 13:04.09 | jklmnop1 | Well met |
| 13:04.22 | PhilMitSkill | who it goesS |
| 13:04.24 | PhilMitSkill | ? |
| 13:04.58 | jklmnop1 | hm.. someone, surely.. yet to figure who exactly though. Working on that. |
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| 13:11.46 | realies` | chroot vs docker? |
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| 13:29.39 | RuGaL | Hi, Please help me out with this... wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 |
| 13:29.53 | RuGaL | I am using Debian 64 BIT |
| 13:29.53 | towo` | context? |
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| 13:30.13 | towo` | if you want to run 32bit apps, you need to enable multiarch |
| 13:30.18 | RuGaL | I think i have Install sudo apt-get install lib32z1 lib32ncurses5 lib32bz2-1.0 instead of 64 BIT |
| 13:30.25 | RuGaL | How I Enable ? |
| 13:30.27 | petn-randall | !goal |
| 13:30.28 | dpkg | Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is. |
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| 13:32.49 | RuGaL | Actually I am installing Gseen And Stats Eggdrop there I got this error |
| 13:32.56 | RuGaL | wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 |
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| 13:37.08 | petn-randall | RuGaL: Can you provide the full command you're running + the full output to give some context? You can paste it to http://paste.debian.net. |
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| 13:38.32 | jim | RuGaL, is eggdrop still tcl? |
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| 13:43.09 | RuGaL | YES |
| 13:43.19 | RuGaL | Can't load modules gseen: /home/Statistics/eggdrop/modules/gseen.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 |
| 13:43.54 | jim | were they compiled before, and for a different arch? |
| 13:44.34 | RuGaL | No 1st time i am doing |
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| 13:44.46 | RuGaL | My VPS Is on 64 BIT DEBIAN |
| 13:45.25 | jim | and you will/you have installed the eggdrop on that? |
| 13:45.32 | RuGaL | yes |
| 13:45.42 | RuGaL | and this message i got wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 |
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| 13:45.52 | RuGaL | only on gseen and stats |
| 13:46.30 | jim | the eggdrop itself should work fine... I'm guessing here, that the module you're trying to load was compiled for a 32bit arch |
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| 13:47.04 | RuGaL | yes thats whats the problem |
| 13:47.15 | RuGaL | eggdrop is working fine. but i have this error in eggdrop |
| 13:47.37 | RuGaL | How i solve this error "wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32" ? |
| 13:48.02 | jim | can you compile the modules (do you have the compilers/tools? do you know how?) |
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| 13:48.20 | RuGaL | yes after i compile all modules after i get this error |
| 13:48.48 | jim | so the compiler is making 32bit modules? |
| 13:48.59 | RuGaL | yes |
| 13:49.10 | RuGaL | One person is saying enable multiarch. |
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| 13:49.53 | jelly | RuGaL: can you pastebin the full output of your compilation process? |
| 13:50.06 | realies` | is there anythin web-based that would allow me to install different services? |
| 13:50.36 | RuGaL | jelly: Its very hard to paste like this i am just showing you the error |
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| 13:50.47 | jelly | !paste |
| 13:50.48 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 13:51.50 | jelly | RuGaL: you're not meant to paste in here, but on a pastebin site like http://paste.debian.net |
| 13:51.52 | guampa | I'm hitting a problem with dhclient where it ignores (per RFC) the "routers" option when the dhcp server is handing a 121 option (classless static routes). Has anyone encounter this? |
| 13:51.54 | RuGaL | man. after i install gseen and stats modules in my eggdrop i get this error |
| 13:52.04 | jim | RuGaLI can help you with that... you can do apt-get install nopaste |
| 13:52.06 | RuGaL | this is the only error i get |
| 13:52.18 | jelly | RuGaL: how exactly do you "install gseen" |
| 13:52.36 | guampa | thinking of adding a classless route for the default gateway with destination 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0, but not sure if it's the right solution |
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| 13:53.04 | Plushwolf | Is it possible to setup a feature like "hide processes from other users" and/or "randomize new process id's" or so like FreeBSD has? |
| 13:53.19 | RuGaL | I install lang files and gseen.conf and seen.conf in eggdrop |
| 13:53.47 | jelly | RuGaL: can you show the actual commands and their output? |
| 13:54.36 | RuGaL | there is no command |
| 13:54.51 | RuGaL | Can't load modules gseen: /home/Statistics/eggdrop/modules/gseen.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 |
| 13:54.55 | RuGaL | just this error |
| 13:54.57 | jelly | gives up |
| 13:55.21 | RuGaL | gives up? |
| 13:55.35 | RuGaL | Man do you not understand me ? |
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| 13:57.29 | RuGaL | ? |
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| 13:58.36 | jelly | it's hard to help someone unwilling or unable to say how they arrived at the current situation |
| 13:58.44 | Plushwolf | RuGaL: Because this isn't a debian-related problem you should contact ##eggdrop instead |
| 13:58.54 | Plushwolf | * #eggdrop |
| 13:58.57 | RuGaL | It is Debian Related |
| 13:59.10 | RuGaL | wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32 is from Debian |
| 13:59.15 | jelly | I don't know whether it's debian related or not, because there's not enough info |
| 14:00.54 | Plushwolf | RuGaL: This looks like a common issue in eggdrop, other linux distributions like gentoo gets the same errors |
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| 14:01.36 | jelly | such an error should not happen if one builds the software on the same machine it's running |
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| 14:01.43 | RuGaL | Plushwolf: YES thats correct. I am not only one who faces this trouble |
| 14:02.44 | jelly | RuGaL: so, can you tell how did "/home/Statistics/eggdrop/modules/gseen.so" appear on your system? |
| 14:02.49 | Plushwolf | RuGaL: Have you compiled eggdrop on the same machine? If yes, what commands and compiler options did you use and executed? |
| 14:03.02 | jelly | (or in other words, how was it installed) |
| 14:03.21 | Plushwolf | Yes |
| 14:03.22 | RuGaL | jelly: I install manually copy files gseen and stats into my eggdrop |
| 14:03.29 | jelly | RuGaL: copy from WHERE? |
| 14:03.42 | RuGaL | jelly: from other eggdrop where it was working |
| 14:03.58 | jelly | RuGaL: was this other installation also a 64bit system? |
| 14:04.15 | RuGaL | Maybe that one is 32BIT Debian |
| 14:04.22 | Plushwolf | That's why |
| 14:04.30 | RuGaL | Mine is 64BIT Debain |
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| 14:04.44 | RuGaL | yes |
| 14:05.10 | Plushwolf | You know what ELFCLASS32 means? |
| 14:05.25 | jelly | RuGaL: so you didn't actually build the file "/home/Statistics/eggdrop/modules/gseen.so" on this system, you copied it from some old installation |
| 14:05.27 | jelly | ? |
| 14:05.35 | RuGaL | yes |
| 14:05.36 | Plushwolf | You're trying to run a 32bit library in a 64bit application |
| 14:05.53 | RuGaL | Plushwolf: Yes thats the problem |
| 14:05.54 | jelly | RuGaL: pastebin the output of "file /path/to/your/eggdrop" |
| 14:06.13 | Plushwolf | RuGaL: This usually doesn't work well then |
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| 14:06.38 | jelly | or just paste it here, that's one line |
| 14:06.38 | RuGaL | Should i reinstall my VPS into 32BIT |
| 14:06.54 | Plushwolf | Why? There's no need |
| 14:07.06 | towo` | if i read such questions, you should shutdown your vps at all |
| 14:07.07 | jelly | you probably want to actually compile that gseen thing from source. |
| 14:07.28 | Plushwolf | towo`: I agree |
| 14:07.39 | jelly | judd: file gseen.so |
| 14:07.42 | judd | No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 14:07.53 | RuGaL | Mine is Jessie |
| 14:07.55 | RuGaL | New one |
| 14:08.26 | RuGaL | jelly:/home/Test/eggdrop |
| 14:08.50 | jelly | RuGaL: run this command: "file /home/Test/eggdrop", and show the output here |
| 14:08.56 | RuGaL | If there's anything both should work 32 n 64 ? |
| 14:09.31 | bgardner | Hello! I've got a debian 8.7 box that -- at install time -- I only set up wired ethernet. I now want to activate wireless so I installed wireless-tools and firmware-b43-installer. This all works except module 'b43' doesn't insmod at boot. I added a line to /etc/modules but it made no difference. Manually calling 'modprobe b43' *does* work. Advice for my next step? |
| 14:09.32 | Plushwolf | RuGaL: I would compile eggdrop again from scratch with gseen.so included |
| 14:09.34 | RuGaL | -bash: /home/Test/.bashrc: line 6: syntax error near unexpected token `$'in\r'' |
| 14:09.34 | jelly | RuGaL: it's very hard to state the actual cause because you're not giving useful info. |
| 14:09.44 | jelly | wtf |
| 14:10.30 | Plushwolf | eats some jelly :) |
| 14:10.32 | jelly | RuGaL: if I had to guess, I'd say you're trying to use a 32-bit built module with a 64-bit built eggdrop binary. This will not work, |
| 14:10.48 | jelly | the builds have to match. |
| 14:10.51 | Plushwolf | I already told that ... no one listens to me ... why should you o_O |
| 14:10.56 | RuGaL | what i do now? |
| 14:11.22 | jelly | remove the broken .so file and continue using the bot without it |
| 14:11.43 | Plushwolf | RuGaL: Or compile the .so by yourself on a 64bit machine |
| 14:12.09 | jelly | they seem to both have no idea what that means, and are too afraid to say so |
| 14:12.13 | RuGaL | Plushwolf: You know how to install Gseen and Stats ? Then I will give you info |
| 14:12.24 | Plushwolf | jelly: Hm? |
| 14:12.35 | Plushwolf | RuGaL: no |
| 14:12.35 | sypher | RuGaL: That's not how this works. Give info publicly, and if people can help, they will help. |
| 14:12.36 | jelly | "compile the .so by yourself" |
| 14:12.49 | RuGaL | ok |
| 14:12.50 | Plushwolf | jelly: and? |
| 14:12.57 | Plushwolf | jelly: It's not so hard o_O |
| 14:13.37 | jelly | I'd do it for $80/hr :-) |
| 14:13.48 | Plushwolf | :) |
| 14:13.58 | RuGaL | If i enable multiarch it will work? |
| 14:14.04 | jelly | RuGaL: no |
| 14:14.08 | Plushwolf | https://github.com/florian-sander/gseen.mod |
| 14:14.10 | Plushwolf | Here's the source :) |
| 14:14.22 | RuGaL | they use old ver 1.6 |
| 14:14.50 | jelly | RuGaL: you need to have matching builds for eggdrop and eggdrop modules, cannot mix and match new eggdrop with some modules built on an old system |
| 14:15.44 | Plushwolf | "[15:12] <jelly> they seem to both have no idea what that means] ... I know what that means FYI |
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| 14:17.03 | OneSploit | Hi, I have a problem, after recent updates it seems my laptop has soft rf-kkill always on. Any ideas how to fix this ? |
| 14:17.04 | jelly | Plushwolf: duh. RuGaL doesn't. |
| 14:17.29 | Plushwolf | jelly: I don't know, let's not talk bad about other peoples here :) |
| 14:17.30 | OneSploit | It's kind of tricky cause i have to turn rf-kill on first with key then off, and then WiFi works |
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| 14:18.03 | teraflops | Plushwolf: yeah start by yourself |
| 14:18.09 | Plushwolf | teraflops: Hm? |
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| 14:18.55 | teraflops | apart from the funny comments do you have something useful to say? |
| 14:19.10 | Plushwolf | What funny comments? I didn't said any funny comment |
| 14:19.15 | Plushwolf | s |
| 14:19.22 | jelly | teraflops: they've been trying to help for 30+ minutes, what are you smoking |
| 14:19.34 | teraflops | ok |
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| 14:19.42 | OneSploit | debian stopped respecting blacklists from /etc/modprobe.d/ ?/ |
| 14:19.52 | OneSploit | seems module I blacklisted is loaded for uunknown reason tome |
| 14:20.02 | jelly | OneSploit: jessie? |
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| 14:20.45 | jelly | OneSploit: which debian release are you on, and which module does not get blacklisted properly? |
| 14:21.01 | OneSploit | jelly: debian sid |
| 14:21.12 | OneSploit | it's wmi module loaded by ideapad_laptop |
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| 14:21.29 | jelly | OneSploit: wrong place to ask, then |
| 14:21.31 | OneSploit | I belive it's the reason why my rf-soft switch gets turned on |
| 14:21.34 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 14:21.34 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 14:21.49 | OneSploit | I thought I joined #debian-next |
| 14:21.53 | OneSploit | ah this is freenode ;/ |
| 14:21.57 | OneSploit | ok sorry :) |
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| 14:33.24 | jklmnop1 | when I do "apt-get install <whatever>" it often floods my screen with a bunch of Suggested: or Recommended: packages as well.. I some times change my initial selection to include the lot,in hopes of avoiding issues or adding functionality.... but is there a way to auto-include any and all eventual Suggested: / Recommended: apps when I try install stuff ? |
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| 14:35.22 | TomTomTosch | recommended packages are installed witht he default apt configuration. suggested can be pulled with --install-suggests also see --no-install-recommends in man apt-get |
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| 14:35.40 | jklmnop1 | ooh. cool. many thanks |
| 14:36.31 | n4dir | there is also a file to make such changes permanent, i always forget if it is /etc/apt/apreferences or /etc/apt/apt.conf |
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| 14:36.48 | n4dir | though as far it's me the default configuration is fine |
| 14:36.54 | jklmnop1 | cool.. :o) |
| 14:36.59 | jklmnop1 | ty |
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| 15:13.58 | hmuller | when reviewing a package relationship, what does the '<<' mean. I understand >= is 'greater than or equal to' |
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| 15:15.41 | hmuller | nvm, I regoogled that clarified question and found the ansewr |
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| 15:34.32 | jklmnop1 | http://imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/01/13/hmmh.gif |
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| 15:34.43 | jklmnop1 | (protip,run: wget "http://imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/01/13/hmmh.gif" -vo ~/newBG.gif ) |
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| 15:38.49 | enoch85 | how do I fill a drive with zeros and stops filling it when there is 5% left of the space on the drive? |
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| 15:44.52 | noc_ | make a swap partition (only 4KB will be written) then dd to it |
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| 15:45.12 | somiaj | jklmnop1: this is a support channel, please stick on topic and don't share gifs here, there are social channels for that. |
| 15:45.17 | noc_ | if ssd, make an ext4 partition, it will TRIM the data automatically before filesystem creation |
| 15:46.03 | somiaj | seems like an intersting request, why would you want to stop at 5% left? dd can be controled to do that, but you have to manually compute/state when to stop. |
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| 15:49.08 | kupi | hello |
| 15:49.23 | kupi | hi |
| 15:49.34 | somiaj | hi |
| 15:49.53 | kupi | where can I find the current x32 installer? |
| 15:50.09 | kupi | all I could find is this outdated site |
| 15:50.10 | kupi | http://debian-x32.org/ |
| 15:50.21 | kupi | which tells me now it's done by Debian |
| 15:50.29 | somiaj | what do you mean by x32 installer? Do you mean i386 (32bit) or some other port? |
| 15:50.48 | kupi | https://wiki.debian.org/X32Port |
| 15:50.54 | kupi | I mean this |
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| 15:53.36 | DexterF | hi. |
| 15:54.01 | DexterF | having a hard time if a mdadm raid1 on deb8 is ok or not: here is partitons: http://paste.debian.net/911298/ |
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| 15:54.31 | somiaj | kupi: ahh thanks. I'm not sure how to deal with unoffical ports, and if the wiki is outdated not sure what is the best suggestion. |
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| 15:55.07 | DexterF | sdi and sdh form a 2 device raid1, then it has partitions md2p[n]. so far, so good. /proc/mdstat says both raids are ok, the raid1 has [UU] status |
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| 15:55.39 | kupi | >Update: the contents of this site is stale, with no updates since jessie. Current work is done in Debian proper, in unstable. |
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| 15:56.33 | DexterF | but: as one can see, sdi has partitions listed, while it should be only one big partiton for type RAID. further, mdadm -E /dev/sdi does not show raid info: http://paste.debian.net/911301/ |
| 15:57.24 | jklmnop1 | enoch85: if still needing to write zeros to all but wherever remaining 5%, instead of dd if that'd b your choice otherwise, try check out dcfldd or dc3dd instead. dd but with some enhancements.. |
| 15:57.28 | DexterF | so what does that tell about the state of that raid1 now? is it ok? |
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| 15:58.06 | somiaj | kupi: maybe this will help https://www.ports.debian.org/ |
| 15:59.07 | kupi | somiaj: thanks but I have already seen this and there is no installer |
| 16:01.34 | somiaj | kupi: irc.oftc.net may have a channel for this unoffical port that could be of better help |
| 16:01.55 | kupi | somiaj: but it's official |
| 16:02.08 | kupi | Topic for channel #debian-x32: Official development |
| 16:02.08 | kupi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:02.35 | somiaj | kupi: by unoffical port, I mean one that is not being supprted with the releases...not that it isn't supported by the debian community. |
| 16:02.54 | somiaj | I guess the webpage calls them offical and other. |
| 16:03.04 | TomTomTosch | the site you linked has installer images and instructions on how to install without the installer. |
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| 16:11.22 | S1ohy | Is this an issue with apt or with what I'm trying to do?: http://paste.lisp.org/display/337685 |
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| 16:13.43 | TomTomTosch | possibly a bug in stretched version of apt-add-repository. but don't add ubuntu ppas to your debian system if you don't want to breake it. |
| 16:14.12 | S1ohy | sometimes you have to |
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| 16:14.29 | S1ohy | trying to get infinality font rendering :/ |
| 16:15.38 | shewp | i accidentally installed steam via ubuntu ppa once, rip system |
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| 16:16.42 | S1ohy | how much harm would come upon me if I installed a jessie .deb? |
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| 16:18.15 | TomTomTosch | just don't do it. build from source if you need to. |
| 16:18.24 | S1ohy | sigh |
| 16:18.35 | S1ohy | https://github.com/cmpitg/infinality-debian-package |
| 16:18.49 | S1ohy | that doesnt work, as in not building the right deb files |
| 16:19.22 | S1ohy | anyone have experience building that? |
| 16:19.23 | S1ohy | xb |
| 16:19.26 | S1ohy | woops |
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| 16:36.24 | graps | Hi all |
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| 16:56.31 | pikaro | hi! I'm trying to install libpng12-0, and regardless of doing it through apt or manually downloading the package manually, I get "unable to install new version of '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpng12.so.0': No such file or directory". what's happening here? tried it several times. |
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| 16:58.32 | GPenguin | pikaro: i would feed the filename witout path to "apt-file search" to find out in which package the file is |
| 16:58.40 | GPenguin | pikaro: and then install this one |
| 16:59.20 | pikaro | well, it's in libpng12-0 :\ |
| 16:59.27 | GPenguin | doh |
| 16:59.30 | GPenguin | hmmm |
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| 16:59.42 | soniaa | ? |
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| 16:59.47 | soniaa | www.icq-net.eu chat for all people !!! |
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| 16:59.54 | pikaro | I've seen this error before when part of the target path didn't exist, but /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ definitely does |
| 16:59.55 | GPenguin | pikaro: what says "apt-get -f install"? |
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| 17:00.32 | pikaro | GPenguin, nothing for some strange reason |
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| 17:00.47 | TomTomTosch | pikaro: what is the exact command you used and what's the output? |
| 17:02.45 | pikaro | http://pastebin.com/5ZPPwQSf |
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| 17:03.46 | pikaro | I'm on sid btw, but the newest package is from stable so it shouldn't matter much |
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| 17:04.28 | tomcres | ah. this is a known problem with the libpng12-0 package from jessie on stretch/sid. the wheezy version will work. |
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| 17:05.44 | tomcres | I ran into this a few weeks ago trying to install libpng12 as a dependency for a Canon printer driver on stretch |
| 17:05.53 | pikaro | awesome, that worked, thanks! what causes the weird output? |
| 17:06.29 | tomcres | pikaro, it has something to do with the way the package is tarred up internally |
| 17:07.09 | pikaro | alright - well, the main thing is I have it now :) |
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| 17:09.46 | ElDiabolo | Hi. How can a device vanish from lspci output. Any other explanation than hardware problems? |
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| 17:14.03 | kamilboratynski | HI there. Small questionaire. Do you have dynamicDNS + DHCP server in your infrastructure? |
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| 17:15.14 | nkuttler | !tell kamilboratynski about polls |
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| 17:18.28 | enoch85 | jklmnop1, thanks, will look into it |
| 17:18.37 | enoch85 | jklmnop1, do you have any command laying around? :) |
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| 17:20.53 | kamilboratynski | nkuttler: Thanks; so basically I have the following problem. I would like to fully automate VMware vCenter deployment with PXE installation in case of hostname and network addressing within Ansible. Having dynamic DNS and DHCP server, it is enough to automate DHCP + MAC assigment, but customer rejects this solution. I am looking for another solutions. |
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| 17:24.53 | ElDiabolo | When upgrading to kernel 4.9 my second graphics card vanished from lspci. How can that happen? |
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| 17:26.27 | volter | Anything in dmesg? |
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| 17:28.45 | ElDiabolo | volter: At least nothing related to nvidia (there are two nvidia cards and one is gone from lspci). |
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| 17:30.59 | volter | No idea then |
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| 17:33.26 | ElDiabolo | volter, I think I'll open the case, remove it and put it back in. Maybe it has nothing to do with 4.9. |
| 17:36.13 | jhutchins | ElDiabolo: The rather obvious test is to boot to something other than 4.9 |
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| 17:36.33 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 17:36.35 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.2-2); stretch: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.2-2); jessie-backports: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.8.15-2~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.39-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-1) |
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| 17:38.12 | awal1 | sid newer than experimental? |
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| 17:38.50 | awal1 | how is that? |
| 17:39.39 | TomTomTosch | not every package goes through experimental. |
| 17:39.58 | awal1 | ok |
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| 17:41.00 | hmuller | not a question, just a statement. I have always used apt-get, but after using aptitude to resolve dependencies for a specific backport, I now see aptitude's utility. |
| 17:41.27 | ElDiabolo | Just opened the case, moved the card a bit. That helped. |
| 17:41.39 | awal1 | ,v wmii |
| 17:41.41 | judd | Package: wmii on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.9.2+debian-4; jessie: 3.10~20120413+hg2813-8; stretch: 3.10~20120413+hg2813-11; sid: 3.10~20120413+hg2813-11 |
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| 17:53.49 | acu | Is Debian 9 (Stretch) going to be released with kernel 4.9 or 4.10 ? |
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| 17:57.37 | acu | I have noticed tha initially Debian 9 was supposed to be released on kernel 4.10, but since 4.9 will be the official LTS - I wonder if the Debian will follow suit |
| 17:57.40 | petn-randall | ,kernels |
| 17:57.42 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.8.0-rc8-686-pae (4.8~rc8-1~exp1); sid: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.2-2); stretch: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.2-2); jessie-backports: 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.8.15-2~bpo8+2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.39-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-1) |
| 17:57.52 | petn-randall | acu: See above. Very likely with 4.9. |
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| 17:59.17 | acu | petn-randall, thanks - I know that stretch has 4.9 since the 4.10 is still in RC, but based on previous discussions and my understanding - the aim was to wait for next LTS kernel - thanks it seem that is time |
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| 17:59.31 | acu | I wonder when stretch will enter freeze ? |
| 17:59.44 | jrtc27 | acu: https://release.debian.org |
| 17:59.48 | jrtc27 | under "Ley release dates" |
| 17:59.52 | jrtc27 | *Key |
| 18:00.25 | edju | Where does kmail 4.1 store mail? |
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| 18:03.21 | acu | jrtc27, thanks, that was useful - so Stretch soft freeze was in 5 Jan - full freeze 5Feb - thanks a bunch |
| 18:03.32 | jrtc27 | yep |
| 18:03.34 | jrtc27 | w |
| 18:03.38 | jrtc27 | *yw |
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| 18:09.48 | safsa | Does an update or changing i.e. dhcp file for a user affects another users like root? |
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| 18:12.51 | Walex | safsa: that's a strange question: most configuration files apply to the whole system, not to specific users. |
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| 18:13.40 | missmbob | edju: you were told yesterday. akonadi |
| 18:17.39 | edju | missmbob, There's no such directory. |
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| 18:55.43 | egrain | do you have a package that hides the pid of other users? |
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| 18:56.36 | egrain | i did apt-cache search hidepid but it didn't return anything. |
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| 18:56.54 | jklmnop1 | try check this?-> https://debian-administration.org/article/702/Hiding_processes_from_other_users |
| 18:57.23 | jklmnop1 | https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-hide-processes-from-other-users/ |
| 18:57.39 | egrain | thanks so much. |
| 18:57.46 | jklmnop1 | :-) |
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| 18:59.54 | GNUnymous_IRC | Hello. |
| 19:00.03 | jklmnop1 | Greetings |
| 19:00.11 | GNUnymous_IRC | Is DRM removed in firefox in Debian package repository? |
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| 19:00.45 | GNUnymous_IRC | I accidentally leaved this channel. |
| 19:00.57 | GNUnymous_IRC | Is DRM removed in firefox in Debian package repository? |
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| 19:01.34 | jklmnop1 | sorry to say I don't even know what DRM is, I think.. not totally sure where to verify whether it'd have been removed from the Deb pkg repo either really..hmh. |
| 19:01.37 | GNUnymous_IRC | I want to use Debian GNU/Hurd. |
| 19:02.01 | GNUnymous_IRC | jklmnop1: DRM is Digital Restrictions Management. |
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| 19:02.10 | sypher | s/Restrictions/Rights/ |
| 19:02.49 | GNUnymous_IRC | What is "s/something/something"? |
| 19:03.10 | jrtc27 | s/a/b means replace a with b |
| 19:03.10 | GNUnymous_IRC | *s/something/something/ |
| 19:03.15 | jrtc27 | it's the syntax for sed |
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| 19:04.42 | GNUnymous_IRC | Is DRM removed from Firefox in GNU/Hurd? |
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| 19:06.54 | sypher | I don't believe that Debian modifies Firefox from upstream, but some DRM modules are binary blobs that may or may not be convertible across kernel architectures. |
| 19:07.07 | sypher | That's my educated way of saying "dunno, try it and see." |
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| 19:07.39 | GNUnymous_IRC | Ok. I need to check source package. |
| 19:08.23 | GNUnymous_IRC | No source package. :( |
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| 19:14.39 | jelly | GNUnymous_IRC: what do you mean no source package? |
| 19:14.41 | GNUnymous_IRC | Where I can download source package for firefox_45.0.2-1+hurd.1_hurd-i386.deb? |
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| 19:16.10 | jelly | GNUnymous_IRC: same repos you can download the binary .deb from |
| 19:16.12 | jelly | !deb-src |
| 19:16.12 | dpkg | You can have apt download the <source package> from which a <binary package> was compiled using a "deb-src" line in your <sources.list>. A line like "deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian sid main" does NOT make any binary packages available. Ask me about <source> <package recompile> <ssb>; make sure the "build-essential" package is installed. You might need linux-headers-$(uname -r) package installed. |
| 19:17.03 | jelly | GNUnymous_IRC: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm tells you which platforms relevant CDM exist for at all -- hurd is not listed |
| 19:17.29 | GNUnymous_IRC | Where I can get latest Debian GNU/Hurd? |
| 19:18.03 | jklmnop1 | try this?-> https://packages.debian.org/sid/hurd-i386/hurd/download |
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| 19:18.53 | jklmnop1 | (I searched the name of what you were seeking ("firefox_45.0.2-1+hurd.1_hurd-i386") on https://duckduckgo/html btw;) |
| 19:19.18 | GNUnymous_IRC | I want GNU/Hurd iso. |
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| 19:19.54 | jklmnop1 | iso,huh.. sorry, major n00b to linux in general I'm afraid.. not really sure what that even means..hmh... some more details and maybe I could try help ya find it still though, if you'd want |
| 19:20.13 | jelly | GNUnymous_IRC: you can only get development snapshots, as it never got stable enough to be a supported platform |
| 19:20.37 | jelly | dpkg, tell GNUnymous_IRC about hurd |
| 19:21.51 | jelly | GNUnymous_IRC: since it's a small port, it's probably best to ask in the subproject channel |
| 19:22.24 | jelly | or #hurd |
| 19:23.26 | jelly | #hurd seems to have links to images in their topic |
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| 19:31.09 | missmbob | i thought they changed working on that kernel in favor of gnu os with linux libre ? |
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| 19:31.24 | missmbob | s/changed/stopped |
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| 19:32.38 | somiaj | Sure there are some academics out there who still want to try to get hurd to work outside of theory... |
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| 19:35.48 | zykotick9 | missmbob: sidenote, gnu "officially" has two kernels.. hurd & linux-libre |
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| 19:41.57 | Qantourisc | /etc/init.d/lighttpd start doesn't start, reports no errors |
| 19:42.04 | Qantourisc | yet doesn't start |
| 19:42.19 | Qantourisc | restart is also broken, an old lighttpd proccess can still be running |
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| 19:42.58 | Qantourisc | isn't systemd suppost to detect failure to start ? |
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| 19:44.56 | somiaj | what does systemctl status lighttpd say? Also these services check the file /etc/X11/default-display-manager and nicely exit if they aren't the default |
| 19:45.14 | jelly | lighttpd != lightdm, somiaj |
| 19:45.32 | somiaj | oh duh....I still need to wake up. |
| 19:45.38 | jelly | (ignore the Also part, Qantourisc) |
| 19:47.02 | Qantourisc | mainly puzzeled how a init system can be so weird, sometimes it reports failures, sometimes it ignores it |
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| 19:52.58 | somiaj | Qantourisc: I have found systemd to be nice once I figured out where to look for information. |
| 19:53.20 | Qantourisc | somiaj: can find my info, i'm just puzzled how start/restart gives no errors |
| 19:53.35 | somiaj | did you look at systemctl status lighthttpd |
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| 19:54.23 | Qantourisc | somiaj: well I know where to get the error messages |
| 19:54.30 | jelly | Qantourisc: start and restart with systemd do not wait for an exit status, they're just asynchronous commands asking something to do some stuff |
| 19:54.34 | nickgaw | Hi, I liked pine but have been using alpine but think that package is no longer being developt is there another renamed version that is still getting work done on it? |
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| 19:55.18 | Qantourisc | jelly: ow, start and prey, thanks /me gets used to running /etc/init.d/service <> && ps -aux | grep service |
| 19:56.31 | Qantourisc | differnt question: I need a single packge from testing, just added testing, but this became slow, my PC just to small (it's a VM) or shouldn't I have done that ? |
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| 19:56.44 | somiaj | you don't want to install packages from testing in stable, make a backport |
| 19:56.53 | jelly | Qantourisc: do NOT do that |
| 19:57.03 | Qantourisc | jelly: feared as much |
| 19:57.15 | jelly | if stuff got installed already, reimage |
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| 19:57.53 | jelly | if you have an installation of debian, only use repos made for that specific release |
| 19:59.12 | Qantourisc | jelly: also sounds quite drastic to reimage if you installed 1 package that is non-essential :p |
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| 19:59.45 | jelly | Qantourisc: not at all. That one package may have pulled in dependencies galore and replaced important components |
| 19:59.58 | Qantourisc | jelly: the it's not 1 package |
| 20:00.08 | jelly | what |
| 20:00.25 | Qantourisc | jelly: then one installed more then 1 package if it pulled in deps |
| 20:00.40 | Qantourisc | (deps pulled in I consider extra package installed) |
| 20:00.51 | Qantourisc | then again, I doubt it's going to be possible to do that without pulling in deps |
| 20:01.02 | jelly | you think users look at what apt does when they do "apt-get install onepackage" ? |
| 20:01.13 | Aebian | I accidebtly forgot the new in front of my tmux session. Now I have the session but I'm not sure how to access it because tmux a -t is not working. Is there a way to attach to an session using the pid? Currently it looks like this: https://img.knight-industries.org/2017-01-29_14-59-22.png (I want the -S srvupdate window attached again) |
| 20:01.14 | Qantourisc | I do :p |
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| 20:01.30 | jelly | Qantourisc: good job! |
| 20:01.35 | Qantourisc | :p |
| 20:01.58 | jelly | (in general, don't do it again) |
| 20:02.05 | nickgaw | What is the best process for making a full image backup of Debian stable so if something breaks I can just reimage and it would be as if the problem never happened? |
| 20:02.22 | Qantourisc | jelly: ow don't worry the machine was to slow to even resolve it in a reasonable timespan :D |
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| 20:02.24 | jelly | nickgaw: a snapshot of that VM? |
| 20:02.26 | Qantourisc | jelly: thy |
| 20:02.28 | Qantourisc | *ty |
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| 20:02.56 | nickgaw | I am using a physical system not a virtual machine. |
| 20:03.08 | jelly | then you can't use the best process |
| 20:03.17 | Qantourisc | nickgaw: single FS on brtfs -> btrfs snapshot |
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| 20:03.29 | Qantourisc | nickgaw: single FS on non-snapshot capable fs -> no best way |
| 20:03.33 | nickgaw | I am using ext4 single partition. |
| 20:04.00 | jelly | not even LVM? |
| 20:04.02 | Qantourisc | nickgaw: then you should shutdown, to copy if you want to things correctly |
| 20:04.43 | nickgaw | What imaging programs exist for Linux that run in a text console like from a live disc? |
| 20:06.17 | Qantourisc | uses systemrescuecd + cat /dev/sda > /some/storage.img mainly, if I want a safe backup and easy to restore, altough that is slow |
| 20:06.19 | jelly | ,v alpine |
| 20:06.20 | judd | Package: alpine on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.02+dfsg-2; jessie: 2.11+dfsg1-3; stretch: 2.20+dfsg1-7; sid: 2.20+dfsg1-7 |
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| 20:06.42 | Varegotch | Hi! |
| 20:07.20 | nickgaw | There is no such thing as an image program like the old ghost for linux? |
| 20:07.36 | jklmnop1 | Good evening Varegotch |
| 20:07.43 | jelly | nickgaw: it looks like alpine is still being maintained, 2.11 and 2.20 come from http://patches.freeiz.com/alpine/release/ |
| 20:07.45 | Qantourisc | nickgaw: yes, don't recall the name |
| 20:07.49 | missmbob | !clonezilla |
| 20:07.49 | dpkg | Clonezilla Live is a live CD based on Debian, providing disk/partition cloning functionality similar to Symantec Ghost. Basically a front-end to <partimage>, <partclone>, <ntfsclone>, sfdisk and others. http://www.clonezilla.org/ See also <based on Debian>. |
| 20:08.20 | jelly | has anyone actually used clonezilla and can attest it's stable and works well? |
| 20:08.39 | missmbob | not for 10 years |
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| 20:08.58 | nickgaw | That sounds like what I am looking for |
| 20:08.59 | jelly | if it takes 10 yeas to do something with it... |
| 20:10.43 | nickgaw | Are there pay program that do the same thing as clonezilla and that are still being maintained? |
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| 20:11.12 | somiaj | nickgaw: what is your goal? Sometimes coppying the data on the file system is more efficent than cloning the whole partition/disk |
| 20:11.28 | somiaj | plus gives you a bit more freedom in recovery. |
| 20:11.53 | nickgaw | making it into an image that if I break the system I can go back to that image that is compressed to save space on a hard drive or a set of DVD discs. |
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| 20:12.58 | missmbob | nickgaw: for "pay" tools easeus does cloning |
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| 20:16.46 | Heston | is /var/log/messages wiped every week? |
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| 20:18.13 | zykotick9 | thinks drive-partition imaging as a backup strategy is a huge waste of space... ymmv backup data-files/config-files IMO |
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| 20:18.49 | Varegotch | Hi! |
| 20:18.53 | Varegotch | I need help... UWU |
| 20:19.10 | nickgaw | Would e2image work? |
| 20:20.05 | Varegotch | eh? x.x |
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| 20:22.57 | zykotick9 | vaktpost: if you have a question (about debian) you should ask it. |
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| 20:46.57 | Plushwolf | Hey |
| 20:47.16 | Plushwolf | I'd like to try Xen in Stretch, but I'm getting a error when I want to create a new machine |
| 20:47.19 | Plushwolf | unsupported configuration: emulator '/usr/lib/xen-4.8/bin/qemu-system-i386' not found» |
| 20:47.23 | Plushwolf | What can I do? |
| 20:47.30 | sypher | !testing |
| 20:47.31 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <stretch>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting . Support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You need a sound knowledge of Debian and be prepared for a very bumpy ride. Don't use it on things that are critical! |
| 20:47.52 | sypher | In short, your source for stretch-related stuff is #debian-next on the OFTC network. |
| 20:48.25 | jelly | Plushwolf: is qemu-system-x86 package installed? |
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| 20:49.51 | Plushwolf | jelly: Yes |
| 20:50.13 | jelly | did you check the BTS? |
| 20:50.23 | Plushwolf | BTS? |
| 20:50.29 | jelly | !bts |
| 20:50.29 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
| 20:50.34 | Plushwolf | no |
| 20:51.15 | jelly | Plushwolf: when you're on testing, you're supposed to check for already reported bugs |
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| 21:06.13 | James123 | Hello! I am going to make my first ssd installation and I would like your opinion on the partitioning scheme and the filesystem. I was thinking to place /home /var swap on an HDD and /boot / on the ssd and use ext4. Thank you! |
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| 21:09.07 | frostschutz | James123, that's fine if the SSD is only 16GB large |
| 21:09.34 | James123 | frostschutz, it is 256GB |
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| 21:11.19 | frostschutz | James123, put everything on SSD. otherwise there's no point to it |
| 21:12.03 | frostschutz | James123, HDD is for movies, anything that's big, clunky and does not benefit from ssd speeds |
| 21:12.15 | James123 | Even /var which performs many writes? |
| 21:12.24 | frostschutz | SSDs are fine with many writes |
| 21:12.48 | James123 | Ok, thanks! Is ext4 ok as a filesystem? |
| 21:13.26 | frostschutz | sure |
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| 22:17.38 | RickHull | Hi, I am trying to figure out why hexchat opens links in firefox, when /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser is set to chromium |
| 22:18.04 | RickHull | i've gone through the hexchat config menus |
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| 22:20.32 | jolt | Maybe you window manager has its own config for that? |
| 22:20.41 | jolt | RickHull: ^ |
| 22:20.42 | RickHull | using openbox |
| 22:20.55 | RickHull | so far, setting x-www-browser has been sufficient for everything but hexchat |
| 22:21.11 | RickHull | let me check the openbox configs, thx |
| 22:21.16 | jolt | RickHull: xdg-mime default firefox text/html ? |
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| 22:21.30 | jolt | or whatever browser you want there |
| 22:21.37 | [jasper] | hej guys, what's up with the weird s / S in file permissions....setting 0755 on a fle also gives it s ... |
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| 22:21.52 | [jasper] | how can I just assign drwxr-xr-x recurisvely to a directory? |
| 22:22.18 | RickHull | aha! thanks jolt; xdg-mime query default text/html #=> iceweasel.desktop |
| 22:22.25 | jolt | awesum |
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| 22:22.35 | RickHull | can I set this permanently (survive reboot)? |
| 22:23.30 | RickHull | also my gnome-www-browser is set to iceweasel I see. could that be related? doubtful |
| 22:23.45 | jolt | [jasper]: there is something called setuid, which is good for when you have multuple users on the box that should inherit files they create. You can google that if you want more info about the sS. Otherwise you can do "find /path -type d -exec chmod 0755 {} \;" to change all directories to 755 |
| 22:24.00 | jolt | RickHull: I assume that is per user and would survive reboots |
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| 22:24.21 | jolt | [jasper]: but please dont do it on system dirs |
| 22:24.38 | jolt | [jasper]: as those has lots of custom permission for the system to work |
| 22:24.59 | [jasper] | jolt, actually assigning 0755 still hands out sticky bit? |
| 22:25.13 | jolt | [jasper]: it's the parent dir that does that |
| 22:25.16 | RickHull | jolt, oh hm, I was root when I ran the xdg-mime query. funnily as my user, it returns wine-extension-htm.desktop |
| 22:25.28 | RickHull | i'm not sure that's what's triggering hexchat's URL handler |
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| 22:25.48 | jolt | RickHull: probably a nice mix of precedence in that. if you do export BROWSER='something' it might override all of it. |
| 22:26.13 | jolt | RickHull: I would guess it depends on the framework of it, or its own config file |
| 22:26.37 | RickHull | i'm guessing it's somewhere in the system or user xml for openbox |
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| 22:26.48 | RickHull | thx for the info, digging |
| 22:27.14 | somiaj | RickHull: it might be done via xdg-open |
| 22:27.49 | jolt | somiaj: That is why I told him about xdg-mime default :) |
| 22:27.58 | jolt | Well, time to sleep here, good night! |
| 22:28.07 | RickHull | not seeing firefox or iceweasel in any openbox configs :( |
| 22:28.36 | RickHull | aha! xdg-open uses firefox |
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| 22:29.12 | RickHull | shouldn't it use the value of x-www-browser? |
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| 22:29.32 | somiaj | RickHull: it is set via .desktop files |
| 22:29.41 | RickHull | where can I look? |
| 22:29.48 | somiaj | RickHull: man xdg-open |
| 22:30.17 | somiaj | though jolt suggestion of xdg-mime will set it |
| 22:30.18 | RickHull | how does it know the default browser? |
| 22:30.36 | RickHull | my xdg-mime text/html is some wine thing |
| 22:30.41 | RickHull | so i don't think that controls it |
| 22:30.48 | somiaj | there is a default-browser setting |
| 22:31.38 | RickHull | nothing about that in man xdg-open or xdg-mime |
| 22:32.06 | somiaj | one second, I haev to look it up. I rarely use these tools |
| 22:32.17 | RickHull | no worries, any help is appreciated |
| 22:32.27 | RickHull | i just don't know where to look to find this setting |
| 22:32.47 | RickHull | there is a xdg-settings program... |
| 22:33.08 | RickHull | ok, i'm making some headway :) |
| 22:33.12 | somiaj | xdg-settings get default-web-browser |
| 22:33.18 | somiaj | and set to point it at a .desktop file |
| 22:34.07 | RickHull | ah, i guess the .desktop specification prevents an easy hookup to /etc/alternatives |
| 22:34.13 | RickHull | le sigh |
| 22:34.15 | RickHull | thanks! |
| 22:34.48 | somiaj | yea xdg is all about .desktop files since that is the specification it sues |
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| 22:35.07 | RickHull | i think there could "easily" be a shim to help the defaults |
| 22:35.23 | RickHull | in a perfect world |
| 22:36.03 | somiaj | sure, but then you run into two seperate systems, the alternative system was a debian thing before xdg started to unify things. Desktops and desktop applications more often than not are sticking to this open standard that is distro independent |
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| 22:36.23 | somiaj | the old debian menu system has been depricated in favor of the xdg menus for instance |
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| 22:36.56 | RickHull | yeah, it's definitely not easy, or even necessarily a good or tractable idea |
| 22:37.55 | somiaj | RickHull: so unforntually not everything is modified to use the altnerative system. |
| 22:38.38 | RickHull | yeah, and I'm sure it's a big maintenance burden to try to patch everything |
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| 22:41.00 | RickHull | it's not clear whether xdg-settings will persist |
| 22:41.17 | RickHull | i assume it must read and write to a file on the filesystem in order to do so. which one? |
| 22:42.15 | RickHull | i'm used to the model where you can make temp changes via commands, but you have to edit a file for persistence. where commands make persistent changes, it should be made obvious |
| 22:43.18 | somiaj | RickHull: it will unless you wipe out the config file in $HOME for that user |
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| 22:43.51 | RickHull | i grepped all the config files i know about in $HOME and /etc for iceweasel and can't find it |
| 22:44.09 | RickHull | but i probably just haven't looked in the right spot yet |
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| 22:44.36 | somiaj | RickHull: .local or .share somethign like that |
| 22:44.49 | somiaj | RickHull: grr, .config |
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| 22:44.54 | noober | test |
| 22:44.59 | RickHull | yeah i'm in ~/.config poking around now |
| 22:45.07 | somiaj | RickHull: anyways if you read the xdg specifications it should tell you where things should be located. |
| 22:45.16 | pingfloyd | RickHull: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest/ar01s03.html |
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| 22:45.30 | RickHull | it would be nice if `man xdg-settings` deigned to mention it ;) |
| 22:46.01 | noober | Hi guys, I dd the nonfree iso file to usb, when boot from usb, the underscore cursor keeps blinking, anybody want to help me troubleshoot this issue? |
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| 22:46.13 | RickHull | pingfloyd, thanks. i know about most of these. reviewing in depth |
| 22:46.25 | pingfloyd | RickHull: also this is handy https://specifications.freedesktop.org/ |
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| 22:47.21 | RickHull | hm, nothing interesting in `set | grep XDG` |
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| 22:47.26 | pingfloyd | so if for instance, you wanted to have alternatives in control, in your .desktop file you'd reference the alternative for the Exec= |
| 22:47.39 | somiaj | noober: what was the exact dd command you typed out |
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| 22:48.16 | RickHull | pingfloyd, you're suggesting to edit a certain .desktop file? |
| 22:48.33 | noober | somiaj: thank you for reply! command: sudo dd bs=4M if=Downloads/firmware-8.7.1-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdb1 |
| 22:48.34 | RickHull | i was thinking i needed to point xdg to a different desktop file (i.e. chromium.desktop) |
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| 22:48.49 | pingfloyd | one sec, i'll give you an example |
| 22:48.49 | RickHull | and i'm trying to find why and where it points to iceweasel |
| 22:49.00 | somiaj | noober: the image is a full disk image, not a partition. of=/dev/sdb |
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| 22:50.08 | somiaj | RickHull: no but you could make your own desktop file www-browser.desktop that runs the desired link and, put it inside of $HOME and set it as default. |
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| 22:50.37 | noober | somiaj: so it has to be as "of=/dev/sdb" instead of "of ...sdb1" is that right? :) |
| 22:51.05 | pingfloyd | RickHull: like see ~/.config/mimeapps.list |
| 22:51.39 | pingfloyd | in there you'll see a bunch of references to .desktop files |
| 22:51.42 | RickHull | yep |
| 22:51.48 | somiaj | noober: correct, the image has boot info and a partition table inside of it, so you put it on the device so it writes all the boot and partition info on the device |
| 22:51.51 | RickHull | none of which show up in xdg-settings --list |
| 22:52.02 | RickHull | but i guess they are subproperties of the default-url-scheme thingie |
| 22:52.03 | zykotick9 | noober: additionally, you could use cp (it has easier syntax here) instead of dd "sudo cp firmware-8.7.1-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdb" |
| 22:52.11 | noober | somiaj: thank you very much, im going to give it a new try |
| 22:52.17 | noober | clear |
| 22:52.20 | noober | sorry |
| 22:52.25 | pingfloyd | that .desktop file is likely in ~/.local/share/applications/ |
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| 22:52.45 | RickHull | i'm looking for the file that points to iceweasel.desktop |
| 22:52.55 | RickHull | don't care to much for where iceweasel.desktop lives |
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| 22:53.51 | pingfloyd | so you could edit the referenced .desktop file so the Exec= line references /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser |
| 22:54.18 | RickHull | eh, not gonna do that if it's named iceweasel.desktop :) |
| 22:54.26 | pingfloyd | then it will be controlled by alternatives instead of the selections in the DE |
| 22:54.42 | RickHull | i think there should be a x-www-browser.desktop |
| 22:54.48 | RickHull | and the default on debian should point to it |
| 22:55.01 | pingfloyd | you could do that, but then you have to make mimeapps.list point to it |
| 22:55.22 | pingfloyd | you could create a new .desktop file under ~/.local/share/applications/ and then in your DE select that one |
| 22:55.45 | RickHull | i'm still having trouble finding the file that persists the setting |
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| 22:57.28 | RickHull | it's not in /etc/xdg or ~/.config via find xargs grep |
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| 22:59.42 | somiaj | RickHull: it just changes the mime type for text/html located int he file you were pointed at |
| 22:59.58 | somiaj | RickHull: at least that is what it does here, ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list |
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| 23:00.23 | RickHull | ok, I haven't explored ~/.local yet, must be in there |
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| 23:00.43 | RickHull | nope, hmm |
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| 23:00.58 | somiaj | I just ran a test and that is what is changed for me in that file |
| 23:01.09 | somiaj | maybe you are using a mimeapps.list file located somewhere else on your system. |
| 23:01.24 | RickHull | i don't have the string "iceweasel" in any file under ~/.config or ~/.local except in the hexchat logs |
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| 23:01.33 | RickHull | or /etc/xdg |
| 23:01.41 | RickHull | maybe some defaults are in /usr/share |
| 23:01.54 | intx | is there a console-based gui package manager available? |
| 23:02.08 | RickHull | synaptic I believe |
| 23:02.09 | tomcres | dselect? |
| 23:02.10 | somiaj | RickHull: have you changed the settings or just using the default? What happens if you change it? |
| 23:02.16 | somiaj | intx: aptitude |
| 23:02.16 | RickHull | oh, maybe i'm thinking of dselect |
| 23:02.38 | intx | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPackageManagement says it's no longer recommended (dselect) |
| 23:02.38 | somiaj | deselect is still around, aptitude curses based ui is better imo. |
| 23:02.47 | somiaj | intx: use aptitude |
| 23:02.49 | intx | aptitude has a gui? didn't know that :) |
| 23:02.49 | intx | thanks |
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| 23:03.16 | intx | hm it says so right on that page, sorry :) mind-filtered |
| 23:03.43 | RickHull | yep, just run with no args. that's what I was thinking of :) |
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| 23:06.04 | RickHull | somiaj, good point, I need to just make the setting :) |
| 23:06.18 | RickHull | I did find: grep iceweasel /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache |
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| 23:08.55 | kanines | "After years of research of alternative world history, human origin, hidden knowledge etc.. I think I am too far down the rabbit hole. This is so shocking." "I am trying not to be overwhelmed. When I started asking questions, not even related to this, down the rabbit hole I fell. I can't believe it lead to this. What is true? Everything I have ever been taught is lies upon lies, its s |
| 23:09.00 | kanines | o frustrating." https://youtu.be/ssCkc8t9sho |
| 23:09.04 | RickHull | i don't see my setting (chromium.desktop) persisted in ~/.config or ~/.local |
| 23:09.22 | somiaj | RickHull: it should also be firefox-esr and not iceweasel, in jessie that is just a link |
| 23:09.36 | RickHull | yeah, i'm on stretch and iceweasel is still hanging around |
| 23:09.38 | somiaj | RickHull: did you check that it set it correctly (by running the get command) |
| 23:09.45 | RickHull | but yes, it just links to firefox-esr |
| 23:10.03 | RickHull | yep, just confirmed |
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| 23:10.27 | somiaj | it worked for me, I was able to change between firefox-esr, chromium, and google-chrome and it appeard in that file I pointed you at |
| 23:10.51 | RickHull | oh wait, user error 1 sec |
| 23:12.11 | RickHull | yep ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list has been updated |
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| 23:12.32 | RickHull | and it works! thanks! |
| 23:12.34 | mudd | Actually, this Killing Science vid is pretty damned good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szpt2cldlII |
| 23:12.38 | nikoma | http://pastebin.com/YbS7ymyp |
| 23:12.53 | nikoma | Anybody knows how can I mount this USB flash disk? |
| 23:13.00 | nikoma | This is how fdisk -l looks |
| 23:13.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
| 23:13.23 | nikoma | Why does it show such a strange info? |
| 23:13.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | how do i change the tab and bar colors of a gnome app when i am not in gnome? |
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| 23:13.49 | RickHull | nikoma, that partition table looks fuxored |
| 23:14.01 | RickHull | 7.5 GB device, with a 500+ GB first partition? |
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| 23:14.12 | nikoma | That's what I am asking |
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| 23:14.59 | RickHull | i think you need to rewrite the partitions and filesystems |
| 23:15.05 | RickHull | if you want to mount it. just spitballing |
| 23:15.37 | nikoma | Okay, I need to find out how, never done it yet |
| 23:15.54 | RickHull | are you ok with wiping the device? do you want to attempt any sort of data recovery first? |
| 23:16.14 | mtn | Eryn_1983_FL: what de are you using? the ones I have used controlled it with their themes |
| 23:16.31 | nikoma | RickHull: I never used the device yet, I don't have anything on it |
| 23:17.03 | RickHull | I prefer parted to fdisk. but it's pretty straight forward to delete the existing partitions and create new ones |
| 23:17.07 | Eryn_1983_FL | xmonad? |
| 23:17.40 | mtn | Eryn_1983_FL: hmm, maybe take a look at the arch wiki on xmonad to see what they say to do. |
| 23:17.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | what is that called? |
| 23:18.04 | Eryn_1983_FL | its always the words i get confused on.. |
| 23:18.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | its not my window manager, nor my desktop,.. |
| 23:18.24 | Eryn_1983_FL | scroll bar |
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| 23:18.32 | Eryn_1983_FL | they are gray and i want them purple.. |
| 23:20.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | .gtkrc-2.0 ... |
| 23:20.44 | unborn | ,v Xonotic |
| 23:20.45 | judd | No package named 'Xonotic' was found in amd64. |
| 23:20.53 | mtn | Eryn_1983_FL: did you look at the wiki, yet? |
| 23:21.16 | Geoton | Hello everybody |
| 23:22.21 | mudd | We have a jew-orchestrated regression to the non-White mean? "That's exactly what is taking place for all of us to see." "Jews are the antithesis of science, the killers of science, for they create an environment which makes it impossible for science to flourish." |
| 23:22.50 | nkuttler | !ops mudd |
| 23:22.50 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: nkuttler complains about: mudd |
| 23:22.51 | mudd | link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szpt2cldlII |
| 23:23.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | no... |
| 23:23.09 | Eryn_1983_FL | for arch xmonad? |
| 23:23.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | why doesn't debian have one |
| 23:23.33 | mtn | Eryn_1983_FL: didn't you what I typed? that is the best source for xmonad info |
| 23:23.38 | mudd | "They are creating deliberately with the most malicious intent an environment where science simply cannot flourish." |
| 23:23.40 | nkuttler | Eryn_1983_FL: xonotic? because nobody packaged it |
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| 23:24.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok.. nkuttler |
| 23:24.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am looking at the wiki |
| 23:24.42 | mudd | Jew-orchestrated wars cutting short the lives of so many of our best scientists, he says. And the hundreds of millions of the best of the Gentiles slaughtered wholesale in these jewish harvests. |
| 23:24.54 | ryouma | i just extracted parts of a video by recording from vlc. it created .ts files. these are slightly broken re timestamps and pausing. is there a tool that will repair those? |
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| 23:25.55 | Heston | any idea how net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 can be ignored? |
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| 23:26.22 | petn-randall | Heston: Just don't set it? |
| 23:26.45 | Heston | petn-randall, the kernel is ignoring the setting when I want it set |
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| 23:27.37 | petn-randall | Heston: How are you setting it? |
| 23:27.37 | Heston | it's reading 1 when I check the value but ipv6 is still set. If I set it again, it disables ipv6, my network drops shortly after and restores ipv6 with it still set to 1 |
| 23:27.52 | Heston | sudo sysctl net.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6=1 |
| 23:27.52 | Heston | sudo sysctl net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6=1 |
| 23:27.52 | Heston | sudo sysctl net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 |
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| 23:28.25 | nChomsky | Good evening. |
| 23:28.30 | petn-randall | Heston: Probably something like network-manager is setting it again? |
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| 23:28.58 | nChomsky | My Debian is faling to connect to Wi-fi. |
| 23:29.07 | SerbianBoY | what? |
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| 23:29.15 | SerbianBoY | sta je ovo? |
| 23:29.15 | Heston | petn-randall, I'm not sure, how would I check? |
| 23:29.19 | SerbianBoY | gde su svi? |
| 23:29.44 | nkuttler | nChomsky: do you use testing/sid? |
| 23:29.54 | SerbianBoY | fuck you |
| 23:29.55 | nChomsky | Stable |
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| 23:30.04 | nkuttler | !ops SerbianBoY |
| 23:30.04 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: nkuttler complains about: SerbianBoY |
| 23:30.14 | LoRez | SerbianBoY: that's enough. |
| 23:30.22 | SerbianBoY | what? |
| 23:30.23 | Heston | petn-randall, this all started after I used the network switch to disable wifi on this thinkpad |
| 23:30.26 | nChomsky | When I go to NetworkManager's Select Network... |
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| 23:30.38 | nkuttler | nChomsky: do you use testing/sid? |
| 23:30.45 | nChomsky | It shows me " No Networks" |
| 23:30.57 | nChomsky | I use Stable. |
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| 23:31.42 | nkuttler | nChomsky: any networks in iwlist scan? |
| 23:32.22 | petn-randall | Heston: No sure really, maybe someone else can help out. |
| 23:32.24 | nChomsky | How could I check it? |
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| 23:32.38 | nkuttler | nChomsky: by running that command |
| 23:33.37 | Heston | petn-randall, alright no worries. I'm gonna try something |
| 23:33.48 | nChomsky | wlan0 is the wireless connection, right? |
| 23:34.00 | nChomsky | Wait, it is. |
| 23:34.07 | nkuttler | nChomsky: if in doubt, iwconfig will tell you |
| 23:34.43 | nChomsky | No neex, I see my house connection's name in the description. |
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| 23:35.09 | nChomsky | Ok, so it sees them, even though the GUI says otherwise. |
| 23:35.10 | awal1 | Eryn_1983_FL, by default, I think gnome specific apps are now all gtk3 based and uses adwaita by default. check what you can edit in /usr/share/themes/Adwaita (just a possible piste) |
| 23:35.25 | nkuttler | nChomsky: try restarting network manager |
| 23:35.33 | nkuttler | nChomsky: and perhaps your nm applet |
| 23:35.39 | Geoton | nChomsky: do you know what wireless network adapter you have? is it RTl Broadcom? |
| 23:36.16 | nkuttler | nChomsky: btw, did that use to work in the past? |
| 23:36.40 | nChomsky | Yes, it stopped suddenly. |
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| 23:36.58 | nChomsky | I've been using it with no problens for a while now. |
| 23:37.51 | nChomsky | Ok, so command "sudo service NetworkManager restart"? |
| 23:38.24 | nkuttler | nChomsky: that should work |
| 23:39.16 | nChomsky | No effect. :/ |
| 23:39.50 | nChomsky | The wireless option still does not appear in the Network window. |
| 23:39.55 | nkuttler | nChomsky: you could try nmcli connection up <network name> |
| 23:40.02 | nkuttler | from the command line |
| 23:41.36 | nChomsky | "Error: neither a valid.connection nor device given" |
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| 23:42.04 | nkuttler | well, you need to pass the correct name |
| 23:42.47 | nkuttler | or, wait.. that's another error |
| 23:42.54 | nChomsky | I believe that was the case, I even copy/pasted it from the result of the scan. |
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| 23:43.11 | nkuttler | nChomsky: any spaces in it? try quoting it |
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| 23:43.52 | nChomsky | nmcli connection up netvirtua31 |
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| 23:44.09 | nChomsky | It failed with quote marks as well... |
| 23:44.37 | nChomsky | I used its ESSID name |
| 23:44.56 | nkuttler | yeah |
| 23:44.57 | nChomsky | Should I use other parameter? |
| 23:45.15 | nkuttler | not realy, network manager should just work. if you use stable there's no good reason for this to stop working |
| 23:45.22 | nkuttler | have you rebooted since the problem started? |
| 23:45.44 | nChomsky | I did, and them came here. |
| 23:45.55 | nChomsky | then* |
| 23:46.13 | nkuttler | if you have a usb wlan interface, now would be the time to test with it |
| 23:46.43 | cmj | do people reboot to resolve issues? |
| 23:46.50 | nChomsky | how so? XD |
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| 23:47.01 | nChomsky | usb wlan? |
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| 23:47.18 | nkuttler | cmj: when you're out of ideas it can't hurt to try |
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| 23:48.44 | nChomsky | So, how does that work? |
| 23:49.24 | nkuttler | nChomsky: you'd know if you had one |
| 23:49.58 | nChomsky | So, no dice. XD |
| 23:50.24 | nChomsky | Ok, maybe I have one, |
| 23:50.27 | nChomsky | It |
| 23:50.49 | nChomsky | is that little usb connect with an anthenna? |
| 23:50.58 | nChomsky | connector* |
| 23:51.13 | nkuttler | nChomsky: that could be one. anything written on it? |
| 23:51.38 | nChomsky | Let me see, I have it on other computer. |
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| 23:53.24 | nChomsky | Aaaand it disappeared... |
| 23:53.45 | nChomsky | Ah... Backup and reinstall then? |
| 23:53.59 | nChomsky | XD |
| 23:54.13 | nkuttler | what disappeared? no, i doubt a reinstall would change much |
| 23:54.33 | nkuttler | nChomsky: you could purge network-manager, in case you botched the config or something, and reinstall it |
| 23:55.22 | nkuttler | nChomsky: oh, and of course you could try other cli tools to connect, wpa_supplicant |
| 23:55.42 | nChomsky | Ok, let's try that' |
| 23:56.49 | nChomsky | How does it work? |
| 23:57.37 | nkuttler | wpa_supplicant? no idea, i use network-manager.. |
| 23:57.55 | nChomsky | Just a quick commentary, |
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| 23:58.24 | nChomsky | I now used the "ncmli d" command. |
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| 23:58.57 | nChomsky | wlan0 appears as "unmanaged" |
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| 23:59.59 | nChomsky | Even if it failed to connect, shouldn't it appear as being managed by NetworkManager? |
