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| 00:26.26 | awal1 | ,v translate-shell |
| 00:26.27 | judd | Package: translate-shell on amd64 -- jessie/contrib: 0.8.21-1+deb8u1; stretch/contrib: 0.9.4-1; stretch/contrib: 0.9.5-1; sid/contrib: 0.9.5-1 |
| 00:27.01 | awal1 | any privacy concerns using translate-shell (trans) ? |
| 00:27.12 | awal1 | user data collection I mean |
| 00:28.59 | TomTomTosch | yes. "command line interface to http://translate.google.com" |
| 00:31.10 | awal1 | I meant if it also collects end user data as when using google translate website or it doesn't as 'googler' (« according to upstream) |
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| 00:33.40 | TomTomTosch | you can expect google to make the cross-reference to other devices you use on the same network. so if you are logged into google services on the same machine, you can expect google to make the connection. |
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| 00:34.19 | foul_owl | Hi folks, I updated my system and now my lxc template isn't coming up correctly |
| 00:34.26 | TomTomTosch | "make the connection" in terms of identify you as the same user. |
| 00:34.32 | foul_owl | Is it possible that apt overwrote my lxc template for debian? |
| 00:34.48 | foul_owl | I thought apt was supposed to prompt before overwriting a file that the user changed |
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| 00:36.27 | awal1 | TomTomTosch, for firefox I use duckduckgo as default search engine. you mean if I run trans in a shell google may make cross-reference "only" if at same time I'm connected to X ggole service? |
| 00:36.44 | awal1 | google |
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| 00:38.08 | awal1 | not easy to be away of google stuff nowdays :P |
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| 00:39.16 | TomTomTosch | yeah |
| 00:40.53 | awal1 | that pkg is a nice tool, anyway |
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| 01:08.14 | awal1 | How to reinstall a given pkg and all it's deps & recommends ? |
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| 01:17.31 | ghormoon | hi, is it possible to start pulseaudio on headless machine without [pulseaudio] client-conf-x11.c: xcb_connection_has_error() returned true ? my google-fu fails on this and pulseaudio channel is dead at this time :) |
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| 01:18.10 | awal1 | Tried something like apt-get install reinstall pkgA pkgB `apt-cache depends pkgA pkgB` but it wont work, getting errors about "Depends and Recommends not found" |
| 01:19.00 | awal1 | apt-get refers to depends/recommends words in apt-cache listing output |
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| 01:39.53 | TomTomTosch | awal1: look at the output of apt-cache depends. you can't just feed that to apt-get install, you have to format it. knowing awk comes in handy sometimes. apt-cache depends <pkg> | awk '{if (/^ Depends: /) printf "%s ", $2}' |
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| 01:40.27 | TomTomTosch | but i would be careful with that. |
| 01:40.44 | TomTomTosch | look at the output and select manually what you really want to reinstall. |
| 01:41.35 | somiaj | awal1: why do you think reinstalling all of these packages is needed? Normally it is not. |
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| 02:00.57 | awal1 | TomTomTosch, ok will try that . thanks |
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| 02:02.14 | awal1 | somiaj, nothing really special I'm just trying to solves some bugs in my sid vm but I dont know which pkgs are related, so I wanted to reinstall not only the main pkg but also its deps and recommends |
| 02:02.15 | ghormoon | did anyone try anything that crazy like runing linux steam in lxc container using remote X server? any idea where to start debugging games shuttering a lot? (they seem to count time wrong. after half a minute of running it says it runs 1-2sseconds) |
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| 02:03.36 | ghormoon | I was suspecting problems because they were flooding log with pulseaudio errors, but I fixed that now and no change :( |
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| 02:04.06 | somiaj | ghormoon: opengl on a remote server just sounds painful to me |
| 02:05.38 | awal1 | apt-cache depends pkgname | awk '{if (/^ Depends: /) printf "%s ", $2}' no output at all :P |
| 02:06.01 | TomTomTosch | which package? |
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| 02:06.20 | ghormoon | somiaj: glxgears say 600fps |
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| 02:07.09 | awal1 | apt-cache depends openbox | awk '{if (/^ Depends: /) printf "%s ", $2}' |
| 02:07.10 | ghormoon | 85 fullscreen |
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| 02:08.55 | ghormoon | but locally it does only 60 because vsync is on. maybe the games are not told there's vsync on? |
| 02:09.46 | somiaj | maybe, I'm unsure how much info would have to pass from the server trying to display a game remotely, I've never tried that. Even playing a video on a vm with vnc is slow for me |
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| 02:11.27 | TomTomTosch | awal1: LANGUAGE=en apt-cache depends openbox | awk '{if (/^.*Depends: /) printf "%s ", $2}' |
| 02:11.48 | ghormoon | hm, I can try vnc on some hd video |
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| 02:13.21 | somiaj | ghormoon: spice is better than vnc if you want to do video and the likes |
| 02:13.36 | somiaj | ghormoon: unsure about running something on a remote xserver, sicne the client is local maybe most the rendering is done locally |
| 02:13.46 | ghormoon | ah sry I messed up vnc and vlc this late |
| 02:13.47 | ghormoon | :) |
| 02:16.23 | ghormoon | hm, without vsync locally small window is about 3x better, but fullscreen is worse, close to 60 which makes me think that it still vsyncs |
| 02:16.27 | ghormoon | even when told to not |
| 02:17.22 | awal1 | TomTomTosch, now it works I get "libc6 libglib2.0-0 libice6 libobrender32v5 libobt2v5 libsm6 libstartup-notification0 libx11-6 libxau6 libxcursor1 libxext6 libxi6 libxinerama1 libxrandr2" |
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| 02:19.54 | awal1 | (/^ Depends: /) doesn't work, (/^.*Depends: /) works |
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| 02:21.29 | awal1 | will be nicer if I get the recommends listed with apt-cache depends and combine all that with reinstall :P |
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| 02:23.40 | awal1 | TomTomTosch, what's the difference between (/^ Depends: /) vs (/^.*Depends: /) ? |
| 02:24.19 | awal1 | too much bash to learn :D |
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| 02:26.16 | TomTomTosch | the first one only matches two whitespaces. the dot matches any char and the kleene star stands for zero or more repetitions. |
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| 02:26.47 | introom | n,v fish |
| 02:26.49 | introom | ,v fish |
| 02:26.50 | judd | Package: fish on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.23.1+20120106.git8b407a3-1; jessie-backports: 2.2.0-3~bpo8+1; sid: 2.4.0-1; stretch: 2.4.0-1 |
| 02:26.56 | TomTomTosch | that's not bash. that's awk and regular expressions. |
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| 02:28.12 | hiexpo | hola all |
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| 02:30.10 | TomTomTosch | hits the hay |
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| 02:31.30 | hiexpo | and the mice wither thru the hay and nip @ TomTomTosch |
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| 02:40.22 | somiaj | awal1: \s* might be better than .* to match only whitespace |
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| 02:44.39 | awal1 | somiaj, you mean (\s*Depends: /) ? |
| 02:45.17 | somiaj | awal1: I was just commenting on the .* part that was explained to you, but yes. . is any character, \s is only whitspace characters |
| 02:45.35 | awal1 | somiaj, ok :) |
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| 02:46.20 | awal1 | well, thanks for your time guys; I give up for now. easy solution: apt-cache depends and copy paste pkgnames :P |
| 02:47.05 | awal1 | I think I need a few months of bash and more gnu tools learning :P |
| 02:47.32 | somiaj | this is regex, not really bash going on here, getting closer to full programing langauges |
| 02:47.45 | somiaj | well regex is a standard thing in many langauges to match/search/parse text files |
| 02:48.58 | awal1 | ok, more learning so :P |
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| 02:52.46 | captbiz | when i run the script isolated, it works, but in the cron job i get a cant open db error |
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| 03:44.38 | unborn | ,v YUMI |
| 03:44.39 | judd | No package named 'YUMI' was found in amd64. |
| 03:45.45 | missmbob | !yumi |
| 03:45.45 | dpkg | well, yumi is a tool that can make bootable usb device. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager> |
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| 03:56.14 | tomcres | lol @ "cruel and unusual ways" :-D |
| 03:57.29 | klys | think it says that aout unetbootin too |
| 03:57.47 | klys | about* |
| 03:57.47 | unborn | I will possibly use cp iso or dd |
| 03:57.53 | somiaj | and rufus, the factiod has been copied around |
| 03:58.16 | somiaj | unetbootin was removed from debian for this case, though there are uses for it if one wants to create other iso's from debian |
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| 03:59.15 | unborn | shall I always use sync command after cp iso? |
| 03:59.25 | unborn | or is not need it? |
| 03:59.55 | missmbob | install guide says to use it. |
| 04:00.10 | unborn | cool thank you |
| 04:00.11 | dvs | unborn, for cp, yes |
| 04:00.15 | klys | sync before ejecting or powering off |
| 04:00.40 | unborn | dvs: I think its even for dd as well |
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| 04:00.53 | dvs | unborn, no |
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| 04:02.42 | unborn | dvs i was always creating sicks like dd if=debian.iso of=device bs=4M; sync perhaps it cannot do any harm |
| 04:03.13 | dvs | unborn, adding sync wont do any harm. It's just unnecessary |
| 04:03.23 | dvs | for dd |
| 04:04.29 | klys | as long as you do a normal restart or umount, it should be unneccessary though it doesn't hurt, L.Torvalds recommended doing it three times before rebooting linux 1.x |
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| 04:06.34 | unborn | oh I did not realised that could be used for windows isos too |
| 04:08.42 | dvs | dd can copy windows isos to flash drives but it won't boot like a debian image. |
| 04:10.09 | missmbob | !winusb |
| 04:10.09 | dpkg | somebody said winusb was a tool to create bootable usb using windows ISO. debian package can be found at https://dipconsultants.com/jessie/?dir=winusb/binaries |
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| 04:14.56 | unborn | missmbob: well i just booted up windows from usb created with dd.. works fine for me. I was normally had to create bootable stick of windows from within windows it self and cmd. finally I dont have to touch it |
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| 04:55.39 | Nicho1as | has anyone experienced the /etc/network/interfaces file replaced by the short default one whenever the host boots? |
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| 05:27.20 | rjsalts | Nicho1as: no, are you using some kind of overlay system/live boot? |
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| 05:30.27 | Nicho1as | rjsalts: No I don't believe so |
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| 05:50.41 | oo_miguel | Can I somehow check if all files from all packages are in place? |
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| 05:53.31 | rjsalts | oo_miguel: yes |
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| 05:54.54 | rjsalts | oo_miguel: https://packages.debian.org/sid/tiger provides a script that almost does that |
| 05:55.24 | oo_miguel | rjsalts: thank you, I will study this script |
| 05:56.01 | rjsalts | oo_miguel: but basically if you have a package installed it will list the files it owns in /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.list |
| 05:56.32 | oo_miguel | yeah I more thought about some kind of oneliner, that will get a list of all files installed and check if there are indeed there |
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| 06:03.18 | rjsalts | oo_miguel: yeah, something like IFS=$'\n' for file in $(cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list);do if [ -f ${file} ];do echo ${file} is there;else echo ${file} is missing;fi;done |
| 06:03.36 | oo_miguel | hehe yeah I came up with something similar : for fn in `cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list`; do [ -f $fn ] && echo "$fn =>exists" || echo "$fn =>not exist!"; done | grep "=>not exists" |
| 06:04.23 | rjsalts | use the IFS=$'\n' for filenames with spaces in them |
| 06:05.15 | oo_miguel | oh ok, thank you. did not know about this |
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| 07:13.00 | davin | hello there |
| 07:13.06 | davin | how's it going??? |
| 07:13.53 | davin | do any of you use debian |
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| 07:15.31 | davin | hey there lucas |
| 07:17.02 | zykotick9 | davin: "do any of you use debian" <- do you _really_ need to ask such a question in the #debian irc channel? really? |
| 07:17.11 | davin | i'm not sure |
| 07:17.21 | davin | maybe some people here are not competent |
| 07:17.23 | davin | i don't know |
| 07:17.31 | davin | do you use it |
| 07:17.32 | zykotick9 | yes MANY (read, "probably everyone") of us use debian ;) |
| 07:17.33 | davin | ? |
| 07:18.00 | davin | i've met people in some places, and the things i see are not really that desirable |
| 07:18.57 | davin | i went to school, and got a degree in computer engineering |
| 07:19.03 | davin | they had an operating systems course, and it was horrible |
| 07:19.15 | davin | we had minix, and it was a piece of shit |
| 07:19.23 | davin | i looked forward to the course, |
| 07:19.31 | davin | and thought it might have some nice things |
| 07:19.32 | davin | but it wasn't |
| 07:21.15 | GPenguin | davin: what exactly are you looking for here on this channel? |
| 07:21.18 | jelly | davin: btw, we have a #debian-offtopic channel for chat and socializing, and keep this one clear for tech support |
| 07:21.33 | davin | would you consider debian stable ??? |
| 07:21.46 | davin | because i think it has some problems |
| 07:22.04 | oo_miguel | dies debian-offtopic has anything to do with debian? |
| 07:22.10 | oo_miguel | s/dies/does |
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| 07:23.00 | davin | i think the roberts family still needs to make some changes to this system |
| 07:23.09 | jelly | oo_miguel: it has nothing to do with tech support; stuff other than tech support, including debian, can be discussed |
| 07:23.19 | oo_miguel | jelly: ok thankx |
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| 07:23.54 | davin | it feels kind of cheap without some of the roberts people |
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| 07:30.32 | davin | hmmm.......... |
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| 07:32.13 | davin | hey kert |
| 07:32.19 | davin | are you of denmark? |
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| 07:37.31 | davin | denmark is kind of a nice place, sort of |
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| 07:37.46 | davin | some things are good, some things are bad |
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| 07:37.53 | davin | i think i'm the only person in this channel |
| 07:37.57 | davin | i'll just type to myself |
| 07:38.00 | oo_miguel | who are the roberts people? |
| 07:38.07 | davin | don't look |
| 07:38.08 | davin | ok |
| 07:38.15 | davin | in a while i'm going to put it all in a text file |
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| 07:40.52 | davin | the roberts family are a important and powerful people in the debian world |
| 07:40.57 | davin | they are the owners of debian |
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| 07:42.55 | davin | the roberts family started something, but they have more work to do to be done |
| 07:42.56 | davin | or complete |
| 07:43.15 | oo_miguel | what did they start? |
| 07:43.42 | davin | thats a good question |
| 07:43.53 | davin | its kind of complicated |
| 07:44.32 | davin | they started with a calculator, and in the end they had a simple unix system |
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| 07:45.32 | davin | in easy or recognizable terms |
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| 07:45.40 | davin | they are the copyright owners of debian |
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| 07:48.29 | davin | arturo have you ever been to denmark |
| 07:48.34 | davin | i think you're closer to denmark than me |
| 07:48.55 | arturo | davin: ? |
| 07:49.41 | davin | probably i don't know how to type |
| 07:49.47 | davin | probably i'm stupid, or something |
| 07:50.10 | oo_miguel | davin: you are typing stupid stuff at least :P |
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| 07:50.27 | oo_miguel | or have some very strong misconceptions about what debian is |
| 07:50.44 | davin | haha |
| 07:50.47 | davin | thats funny |
| 07:51.38 | davin | how long have you been using debian? |
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| 07:51.53 | davin | i personally favor solaris maybe |
| 07:51.59 | davin | for my own use, windows xp |
| 07:52.03 | missmbob | !chat |
| 07:52.03 | dpkg | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net. |
| 07:52.05 | davin | but i have a strong need for a linux system |
| 07:52.59 | davin | well, i asked a question, here betty |
| 07:53.09 | davin | i asked is debian stable??? or not??? |
| 07:53.20 | oo_miguel | debian stable is quite stable |
| 07:53.29 | oo_miguel | I am using it since a couple of years |
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| 07:54.21 | davin | if you don't mind me asking |
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| 07:54.41 | davin | what function does it serve for you |
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| 07:54.46 | davin | and to what extent do you use it |
| 07:54.48 | davin | ??? |
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| 07:58.08 | oo_miguel | I answered you via a private message (since you did not join debian-offtopic as requested to) |
| 07:58.46 | davin | i don't really do some things, homeboy |
| 07:59.00 | davin | probably some people are confused about what a question is |
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| 08:00.59 | davin | thanks for you graciousness miguel |
| 08:01.01 | davin | but i gotta go |
| 08:01.11 | davin | i can't be in some places for too long, or i get in trouble |
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| 08:01.15 | davin | i'm not supposed to be doing some things |
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| 08:01.30 | davin | see ya i don't know when? later :) |
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| 08:04.37 | ecclesia | I was fighting with cups last night. Up until 2am going "This is 2017 why am I even trying to configure this" TUrns out my troubles were twofold. First, cups wasn't even installed, and secondly, I had a dodgy usb cable. |
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| 08:11.16 | dgriffi | Does anyone here have a spare flash drive and a spare laptop? |
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| 08:11.49 | dgriffi | For some reason, I can't make a writable Debian install flash drive anymore... using this howto: http://hyper.to/blog/link/debian-installer-on-a-usb-key/ |
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| 08:15.11 | joze | dgriffi: You can copy the installer iso with cp debiancd.ist /dev/sdX and it should boot. |
| 08:15.17 | joze | *iso |
| 08:15.46 | dgriffi | joze: I know how to make a bootable flash drive that way. The problem is the resulting flash drive is write-only. |
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| 08:16.07 | dgriffi | joze: by following the directions I posted, I used to be able to make a bootable installer flash drive that I could write to. |
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| 08:16.53 | dgriffi | joze: the upshot of that is so I can use a preseed file, include non-free firmware packages, and assorted other stuff I want to have when doing a fresh install |
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| 08:18.06 | dgriffi | it worked  [ Wrote 35 lines ] |
| 08:18.06 | dgriffi | ^G Get Help ^O WriteOut ^R Read File ^Y Prev Page ^K Cut Text ^C Cur Pos |
| 08:18.14 | dgriffi | sorry |
| 08:19.06 | dgriffi | it worked until last night. Then it complained about "No filesystem could mount root, tried: " |
| 08:19.26 | dgriffi | and "Unable to mount root fs on unknown - block(0,0)" |
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| 08:19.49 | dgriffi | I'm wondering if I could get someone to follow that howto and tell me how it went |
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| 08:38.36 | it0 | Hi everyone, hope you're doing fine :) |
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| 08:41.43 | brutser | hi, apt-get update is constantly freezing and showing "Waiting for headers" - how can i fix this? |
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| 08:43.08 | rmrfchik | hi. Looking into ext4 direntry on disk, I see inode number like this "ED 03 9C 01", i know block size (4096), blocks per group (32768) and inodes per group (32768). is there way to find _disk_ offset of this inode? |
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| 08:45.11 | malacozoan | brutser: Try anothe rmirror, have a look at netselect-apt |
| 08:45.47 | brutser | malacozoan: how do i force another mirror? i use non gui, and not expert - can you say where i change this? |
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| 08:47.05 | malacozoan | brutser: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
| 08:47.18 | malacozoan | Just update your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 08:49.11 | brutser | ok thx |
| 08:50.20 | dgriffi | does anyone here understand making writable installer thumb drives? |
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| 08:52.51 | Almtesh | dgriffi, what do you want to do? |
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| 08:53.41 | dgriffi | Almtesh: the instructions at http://hyper.to/blog/link/debian-installer-on-a-usb-key/ no longer work for me. |
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| 08:55.10 | no_gravity | Hello! Do you guys do screen with multiple linux users? If so, how? |
| 08:55.12 | Almtesh | dgriffi, you should try to dd the debian installer cd image. |
| 08:55.42 | dgriffi | Almtesh: doing that yields a write-only thumb drive. I need to have the resulting thumb drive WRITABLE. |
| 08:55.50 | dgriffi | sorry.,.. |
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| 08:55.52 | Almtesh | no_gravity, you want to have multiple users on the same screen? |
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| 08:55.57 | dgriffi | Almtesh: doing that yields a read-only thumb drive. I need to have the resulting thumb drive WRITABLE. |
| 08:56.02 | no_gravity | Almtesh: Yup |
| 08:56.18 | Almtesh | dgriffi, try to install debian on the key. |
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| 08:56.39 | dgriffi | Almtesh: explain.. |
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| 08:57.00 | no_gravity | Almtesh: It works when all users log in as the same user and join via "screen -x". But how to do it when everybody logs in with his own account? |
| 08:58.34 | Almtesh | no_gravity, oh, that, I did this somewhere once. |
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| 08:59.02 | Almtesh | dgriffi, you launch the installer and you install on the USB key instead of the hard drive. |
| 08:59.24 | Almtesh | dgriffi, to be sure, you can temporary remove your hard drive from your computer. |
| 08:59.33 | dgriffi | Almtesh: this seems awfully complicated for what I'm trying to accomplish |
| 08:59.43 | Almtesh | no_gravity, yo have several way to do this. |
| 08:59.43 | c0de254 | hi..kindf late about the topic? |
| 08:59.51 | dgriffi | Almtesh: my question is why the howto doesn't work anymore |
| 08:59.59 | Almtesh | no_gravity, don't expect this to be standard. |
| 09:00.32 | no_gravity | Almtesh: Got it workin! The screen initiator has to do ":multiuser on" and ":add acl otheruser" and the other user has to do "screen -x initialuser/". |
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| 09:02.41 | c0de254 | thanks Chanserv |
| 09:03.41 | Almtesh | no_gravity, really? Thanks. |
| 09:03.57 | Almtesh | dgriffi, good question. |
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| 09:05.43 | dgriffi | Almtesh: so, do you have any idea? |
| 09:07.46 | Almtesh | dgriffi, for me, the howto can not work. |
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| 09:07.54 | Almtesh | dgriffi, something misses. |
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| 09:08.24 | no_gravity | Almtesh: Yup, it works. |
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| 09:08.33 | dgriffi | Almtesh: why doesn't it work for you? |
| 09:09.12 | Almtesh | dgriffi, you create a partition and you write the mbr just after. |
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| 09:09.38 | Almtesh | dgriffi, there's no system installation, just the kernel. |
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| 09:11.08 | dgriffi | Almtesh: what is missing? |
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| 09:13.02 | Almtesh | dgriffi, system installation. |
| 09:13.21 | dgriffi | Almtesh: okay... |
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| 09:19.19 | dgriffi | Almtesh: how would I go about that? Previously I would add initrd.gz and vmlinux, dismount, then run "syslinux /dev/sdb1" and that would do the job |
| 09:20.14 | dgriffi | I have two flash drives set up according to the howto. One is an old one for installing Wheezy. The other I prepared an hour ago to install Jessie. |
| 09:20.54 | dgriffi | they contain the exact same files, though the latter's files are updated for Jessie |
| 09:21.15 | dgriffi | the one installing Wheezy works, but the one for Jessie will not. |
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| 11:55.46 | sputnik | guys |
| 11:56.00 | sputnik | anyone has a clue |
| 11:56.02 | sputnik | http://p.lr.lt/?hash=9faed31d547f70e705718dbb3598c142 |
| 11:56.27 | sputnik | i tried to build these two deb packages from deb source |
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| 11:56.49 | sputnik | but those ain't work, i'm sure i'm doing something wrong with the keys |
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| 12:00.14 | sputnik | anyone? |
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| 12:04.04 | unborn | ,v Crytkeeper |
| 12:04.05 | judd | No package named 'Crytkeeper' was found in amd64. |
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| 12:13.49 | petn-randall | unborn: Are you looking for this? |
| 12:13.51 | petn-randall | ,v cryptkeeper |
| 12:13.52 | judd | Package: cryptkeeper on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.9.5-5.1; jessie: 0.9.5-5.1 |
| 12:14.12 | unborn | petn-randall: i was just checking if that was removed already |
| 12:14.12 | SynrG | also msg the bot |
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| 12:32.38 | petn-randall | unborn: The version in stable is unaffected by the bug you're probably looking at. |
| 12:33.03 | unborn | petn-randall: thanks |
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| 14:22.33 | sputnik | what's the meaning of '-i' option passed to debuild? |
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| 14:42.24 | TomTomTo1 | sputnik: that options gets passed to dpkg-buildpackage, which i think passes it on to dpkg-source. man dpkg-source has a description of what that option does by itself. |
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| 14:54.40 | gabe__ | I'm trying to install an Intel 8260 wifi card on a machine running Jessie 3.16.39-1. I've installed firmware-iwlwifi 0.43 (also tried 20161130 from jessie-backports), reinserted the module, and rebooted. lspci -nnk shows the card, but doesn't show a "Kernel driver in use:". The card [8086:24f3] shows up as an alias line in modinfo, so I think it is supported. Any ideas? |
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| 15:11.55 | Brigo | gabe__, lcpci says it is an intel 8260 ? |
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| 15:15.22 | gabe__ | Brigo, Yes |
| 15:15.53 | gabe__ | Brigo, 07:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 (rev 3a) |
| 15:16.16 | Brigo | gabe__, i am asking becasue the wiki says it is supported: https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
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| 15:16.34 | Brigo | gabe__, try checking the logs with journalctl -b |
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| 15:52.04 | Pr0metheus | If I use the 8.4 installation cd will it make it be upgraded to 8.6 after apt-get upgrade? |
| 15:52.33 | jelly | Pr0metheus: apt-get dist-upgrade may be needed to patch up everything |
| 15:52.39 | jelly | but in general yes |
| 15:52.53 | Pr0metheus | ok i'll try it thanks jelly:) |
| 15:52.59 | jelly | Pr0metheus: and it will be 8.7 actually |
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| 16:12.51 | Christoph_vW | what about TLS 1.3 support in Debian Stretch? full freeze is near and openssl 1.1.1 is not released yet :/ |
| 16:13.14 | Christoph_vW | but having to wait for Debian 10 to get TLS 1.3 is a no go |
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| 16:15.13 | teraflops | ^ |
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| 16:33.10 | Ooze | My root partition is too small, I'd like to shrink my home partition and extend the space on /sda1. I'm getting a warning message in gparted when I try to make this operation telling me this may cause my system to fail booting |
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| 16:33.19 | Ooze | What's the correct way to go about this w/o causing system damage? |
| 16:33.28 | Circuitsoft | Hello - I'm trying to examine a piece of software that requires /proc/scsi/scsi. I'm running Jessie. |
| 16:33.32 | greycat | Depends on where the partitions *are* |
| 16:33.42 | Circuitsoft | Is there a way to fake the existence of that file for this software? |
| 16:34.25 | rafalcpp | Circuitsoft: well you can even make such a file, but it will of course fail as soon as the program tries to actually use that |
| 16:34.28 | greycat | See, generally you don't shrink the *beginning* of a partition/file system. You shrink the *end* of it. So if your home is right after your root, then shrinking the end of home doesn't give you any space that you can attach to root. |
| 16:34.58 | Ooze | Yeah, the unallocated space is now between swap and the /home partition |
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| 16:35.04 | Ooze | can't I then move the swap? |
| 16:35.17 | rafalcpp | Circuitsoft: no wait, you can't create in /proc. Ok mabye some overlay / unionfs. or maybe ld preload some stuff to fake files |
| 16:35.38 | rafalcpp | Ooze: btw for future do use LVM, this resolves such things much easier |
| 16:35.42 | greycat | We'd have to know how your partitions are arranged. If you have root, swap, home and you remove that swap partition entirely, then you can expand root into that space. And then maybe shrink home and put a new swap at the end of home. |
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| 16:36.11 | Ooze | http://i.imgur.com/JhbCzl3.png |
| 16:36.26 | Ooze | That's what I'd like to do |
| 16:36.46 | Circuitsoft | rafalcpp: I've found that this program is calling execve("/bin/sh", ["sh", "-c", "cat /proc/scsi/scsi | awk ....something..."]) |
| 16:36.53 | Ooze | It will allow me, I just want to be sure my system will still boot |
| 16:36.57 | Circuitsoft | Maybe there's a way to capture that? |
| 16:37.06 | Ooze | I'm performing this from a Live disk instance |
| 16:37.37 | greycat | I'm very confused. In that image, root is *already* your biggest partition, bigger than all the others added together. |
| 16:37.47 | greycat | Where are you thinking you can steal space from? There isn't any. |
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| 16:38.02 | Ooze | This is current: http://i.imgur.com/IBADw3k.png |
| 16:38.06 | greycat | FUCK ME |
| 16:38.12 | greycat | more god damned images... |
| 16:38.23 | Ooze | sry |
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| 16:40.04 | Circuitsoft | Ooze: First thing I'd do is, using fdisk, delete your extended partition, then add an "sda2" with the exact same start and length of your current sda6. Then, open gparted again, and adjust things a little from there. |
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| 16:40.13 | Circuitsoft | However, there's also the question as to why you have so much stuff on your rootfs. |
| 16:40.39 | Circuitsoft | Well, I guess 20GB isn't /that/ big, but it's still pretty big. |
| 16:41.01 | Ooze | yeah I'm not so sure since I just moved my www contents to a new drive |
| 16:41.05 | Ooze | I have some stuff in /var still and /opt |
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| 16:43.02 | Circuitsoft | Ooze: "du -shx /*" |
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| 16:43.39 | Ooze | I'm so low on space I have it powered down rn |
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| 16:45.16 | Circuitsoft | Well, then mount your root partition somewhere from the rescue disk you're running gparted from. |
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| 16:49.30 | graps | Hi all |
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| 16:52.35 | _Nox | ho |
| 16:52.48 | _Nox | *hi |
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| 16:55.31 | graps | _Nox: Hi |
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| 17:03.42 | it0 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:05.35 | _Nox | graps ;-) |
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| 17:12.01 | _Nox | @away |
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| 17:15.29 | it0 | lol |
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| 17:15.48 | it0 | trying to get used to irssi, sorry guys ;) |
| 17:16.25 | doublehp | when upstream dev refuse to fix any bug, is it worth reporting to distro BTS, or should I give up with reporting completely ? |
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| 17:17.19 | jelly | doublehp: it depends, some maintainers fix stuff in debian right away, some prefer upstream issues are solved upstream first |
| 17:17.56 | doublehp | so I can try reporting to Debian ? |
| 17:18.04 | jelly | doublehp: if you already have a patch of your own, it makes debian maintainer's choice easier |
| 17:18.08 | jelly | yes |
| 17:18.14 | doublehp | no i don't have patch |
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| 17:18.54 | jelly | upstream unwilling to fix bugs is a sign you probably should shop for a replacement software sooner |
| 17:18.55 | doublehp | i have found several flaws in several apps, that require several weeks of digging each; I don't have time, and I don't have knowledge |
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| 17:19.48 | doublehp | jelly: replacement for Xorg ? OpenOffice ? Munin ? ZoneMinder ? GCC ? Linux ? ... |
| 17:20.00 | jelly | doublehp: yes. |
| 17:20.01 | rafalcpp | doublehp: most of FOSS is poor quality |
| 17:20.26 | doublehp | leaves before going offtopic, troll, or angry |
| 17:20.30 | jelly | doublehp: software development and maintenance is not free |
| 17:20.36 | rafalcpp | but much is acceptable |
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| 17:22.36 | doublehp | dev think that when source code is available, users should debug it for them ... seing that very often is making me angry; fact I had the knowledge 10 years ago does not mean my familly and work TODAY let me time to contribute now. |
| 17:22.39 | jelly | doublehp: what's the bug number on bugs.freedesktop.org for that Xorg issue? |
| 17:22.50 | jelly | doublehp: of course users should debug |
| 17:23.22 | doublehp | jelly: I gaveup on Xorg in 2011 |
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| 17:24.14 | jelly | shrugs |
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| 17:32.10 | Riku | why does debian still ship with kernel 3.16? |
| 17:32.24 | greycat | because stable (jessie) was frozen in November 2014 or so |
| 17:32.25 | Riku | which fails to boot on kaby lake |
| 17:32.28 | greycat | !freeze |
| 17:32.28 | dpkg | The 'freeze' is when large changes to testing version of Debian are stopped for few months. During this period, no new package uploads are made except to fix critical bugs or to provide documentation updates. During the freeze, bugs are squashed to 'stabilize' the release to make the new 'stable'. Stretch will start to freeze in early 2017. Also ask me about <slushy>, <stretch freeze>. |
| 17:32.43 | greycat | !jessie freeze |
| 17:32.43 | dpkg | Remember, remember, the fifth of November, gunpowder treason and plot! Debian 8.0 "Jessie" was frozen on 2014-11-05; no new versions of packages will enter this release and a period of intense bug fixing has begun. See http://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html or ask me about <slushy>. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot |
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| 17:33.13 | Riku | just installed debian 8.7 and it won't even boot on my 7600K because the kernel is too ancient |
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| 17:35.03 | jelly | Riku: don't buy hardware before investigating it works on your desired distro, is what I do |
| 17:35.05 | greycat | So test the testing installer (but we don't support it here), or use a different OS. |
| 17:35.26 | jelly | kaby lake is shiny new stuff |
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| 17:38.45 | towo` | i ask myself, how could debian be installed with the same nit running kernel |
| 17:39.02 | jelly | !install stretch |
| 17:39.02 | dpkg | The best way to install Debian 9 "Stretch" is probably using the current release candidate of the installer images. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ These images might break or might be buggy but if you're installing the testing release, then you obviously want to help find and report bugs :) |
| 17:39.05 | jelly | Riku: ^^ |
| 17:39.12 | AlexLikeRock | good mornig GNUs |
| 17:39.27 | greycat | towo`: I wonder that too, but I don't know anything about this lake |
| 17:39.41 | mrprole | Riku, use another distro with rolling release. Debian is for old tested hardware. |
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| 17:41.14 | petn-randall | Riku: You could debootstrap the machine with a kernel from jessie-backports. |
| 17:41.35 | KingsQuest | when is debian non-release candidate for stretch ? |
| 17:41.45 | greycat | !stretch |
| 17:41.45 | dpkg | The release following Debian 8 "Jessie" is codenamed "Stretch" (the rubber octopus in Toy Story 3) and will be Debian 9: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00005.html. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch |
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| 17:41.50 | Riku | stretch has linux 4.9, so I'm going with that |
| 17:42.12 | petn-randall | Riku: Sure, just be aware that it's still pre-release quality. |
| 17:42.29 | Riku | I know I used stretch as the only OS on my old laptop |
| 17:42.36 | greycat | It's half-frozen now. Full freeze in a few days. |
| 17:43.28 | doublehp | jelly: gave you 4 bug numbers in private. note that two of them never got a single reply. |
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| 17:45.56 | mrprole | Guys, when will be debian 9 final release? This year? |
| 17:46.14 | tomcres | !stretch pool |
| 17:46.15 | dpkg | See <stretch pool 1> for bets placed on when Stretch will release. To add one, ask me about <stretch bet>. |
| 17:46.16 | KingsQuest | i'd like to know |
| 17:46.19 | tomcres | !stretch pool 1 |
| 17:46.19 | dpkg | ! cruncher=2017-04-12 cruncher=2017-02-18 bæbÄ«len=2017-05-06 TomTomTosch=2017-08-08 greycat=2017-08-15 jellÿ=2017-03-17 themÃll=2017-05-01 |
| 17:46.36 | nauticalnexus | !stretch bet |
| 17:46.37 | dpkg | To add a bet to the <stretch pool>, /msg dpkg stretch pool 1 =~ s/!/! yournick=yyyy-mm-dd/ and when "stretch pool 1" is full, create "stretch pool 2" and update this factoid. |
| 17:46.54 | tomcres | my own guess is end of summer |
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| 17:48.37 | mrprole | Is there are any good guide to update debian from one version to another? |
| 17:49.15 | greycat | dpkg, wheezy->jessie |
| 17:49.16 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/ldcj . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "wheezy" to "jessie". apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. See also <jessie sysvinit>. |
| 17:49.16 | nauticalnexus | :O I contributed |
| 17:49.20 | nauticalnexus | !stretch pool 1 |
| 17:49.20 | dpkg | ! nauticalnexus=2017-04-19 cruncher=2017-04-12 cruncher=2017-02-18 bæbÄ«len=2017-05-06 TomTomTosch=2017-08-08 greycat=2017-08-15 jellÿ=2017-03-17 themÃll=2017-05-01 |
| 17:49.22 | petn-randall | mrprole: Yes, there are always very detailed intructions in the release notes. |
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| 17:50.50 | tomcres | mrprole, for stretch: https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
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| 17:51.10 | mrprole | THX |
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| 17:57.22 | jelly | doublehp: multiple screen situation probably got better in the meantime on its own :-) |
| 17:57.42 | doublehp | jelly: I hear this since 2004 ... |
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| 18:03.53 | jelly | doublehp: I've only looked at the first link. A corner case that only appears with a specific hw setup is hard to reproduce, let alone fix. You don't get to "I shouldn't have to debug as a user" there, esp. if developer's time is limited. |
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| 18:05.54 | doublehp | jelly: in 2010, I was less negative, had more time , had more energy to test things, and was even willing to provide root access to my network (not only to the machine, but to a bunch of machine to help people control the machine; including machines proving serial port console over ssh, and remote power buttons). |
| 18:07.10 | jelly | doublehp: so I understand your frustration, but you also need to understand the resources of both distro maintainers and upstream are limited. You could argue their work ethic, much like yours, is one such resource. :-> |
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| 18:08.16 | jelly | this often results in software (both open and closed source) be half-assed half-products |
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| 18:08.51 | AlexLikeRock | if any DD can solution to this Bug#852619: Acknowledgement (GRUB2 unbootable 2.02~beta2-22+deb8u1) |
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| 18:09.21 | jelly | AlexLikeRock: ... then what? |
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| 18:10.01 | doublehp | jelly: just as we speak ... a bug in firefox. |
| 18:10.02 | AlexLikeRock | no body answer to my bug |
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| 18:11.26 | doublehp | jelly: firefox prints a page, but, printer complains about syntax error; I will have to make a screenshot, and print the image ... otherwise, stopping OT. Good night. You asked links to Xorg, I gave some. I could give links to many other apps (including Debian). |
| 18:11.26 | jelly | AlexLikeRock: they've received your bug, but there's no obligation to fix or comment on it. Maybe the grub2 maintainer is busy with stretch or real life. |
| 18:11.38 | AlexLikeRock | jelly, calm down |
| 18:11.45 | jelly | AlexLikeRock: esp. since you have a workaround |
| 18:11.47 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.10 | AlexLikeRock | well, i just remember |
| 18:12.30 | jelly | AlexLikeRock: not many DDs in here any more, not since irc.debian.org moved off Freenode |
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| 18:16.20 | AlexLikeRock | move off freenode? |
| 18:16.22 | AlexLikeRock | why? |
| 18:16.55 | jelly | !irc move |
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| 18:17.19 | greycat | !oftc move |
| 18:17.19 | dpkg | irc.debian.org moved to OFTC on June 4th 2006, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg00012.html. Operators and bots (see <fact sharing>) will remain on both networks for the foreseeable future; you're welcome to either move to OFTC with i.d.o or stay on Freenode. Questions? Ask in #debian on one or other network. See also http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/04/msg00333.html |
| 18:18.15 | AlexLikeRock | tankyou |
| 18:18.39 | jelly | AlexLikeRock: is it possible something else tampered with your /etc/default/grub and added the bad boot kernel params there |
| 18:19.24 | AlexLikeRock | yes, GRUB must be do a best TEST with KVM |
| 18:19.35 | AlexLikeRock | if are ON or OFF |
| 18:20.31 | jelly | AlexLikeRock: does console=hvc0 appear in /etc/default/grub? |
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| 18:21.38 | AlexLikeRock | yes , i remove time ago |
| 18:22.05 | AlexLikeRock | but mi sugestion , its; no active KVM , if they are not active by bios |
| 18:22.45 | jelly | AlexLikeRock: did you run "update-grub" after editing /etc/default/grub? |
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| 18:27.46 | jelly | AlexLikeRock: if you forget to do that, old /boot/grub/grub.conf stays in place and can cause something like your issue |
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| 18:48.05 | sjohnson | hi. is there a way to tell dpkg to not "flash the screen" during installer questions? i have zero way of knowing if some script had errors while trying to do something. |
| 18:48.16 | sjohnson | in particular, openswan's key importer setup. |
| 18:48.30 | sjohnson | well, x509 importer to be more specific. |
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| 18:49.01 | sjohnson | for all i know there could have been a dozen error messages for a split-second. |
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| 18:52.21 | sjohnson | secondly, how do you just exit out? ^C doesn't seem to take. |
| 18:52.30 | sjohnson | like of the installer questions. |
| 18:53.44 | n4dir | not sure if either "tee" or redirecting stderr might help to look at probable errors later, in the logged file |
| 18:54.07 | graps | Does postfix work with smtp, or can it send messages all by itself ? |
| 18:54.42 | sjohnson | both. |
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| 18:56.12 | graps | sjohnson: Okay. I've been working with postfix on my server, but it doesn't send e-mail successfully. Does the nobody user flag host/hostname errors with e-mailed messages ? |
| 18:57.03 | sjohnson | not sure what you're asking; i'd check the logs. |
| 18:57.16 | sjohnson | or ask #postfix |
| 18:57.22 | greycat | wonders what "send messages all by itself" means if it doesn't mean sending by SMTP |
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| 18:58.07 | graps | sjohnson: Thanks, I'm off to #postfix |
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| 18:58.27 | teraflops | I'm still trying to understand both, the question and the answer |
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| 19:01.15 | sjohnson | i understood it to mean that it can relay messages, but who know what he actually meant. |
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| 19:17.21 | Pr0metheus | I have configured /etc/network/interfaces with dns-nameservers xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx after gateway as stated in the help but although I can ping any ip address I can't resolve hostnames, any idea? |
| 19:17.50 | somiaj | Pr0metheus: do you have resolvconf or openresolv installed? |
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| 19:18.59 | stoned | Hello |
| 19:19.03 | stoned | am I online? |
| 19:19.12 | stoned | Lagged out (but on znc) |
| 19:19.12 | somiaj | nope |
| 19:19.16 | stoned | ok good |
| 19:19.19 | somiaj | stoned: /msg dpkg test in the future |
| 19:19.28 | somiaj | that will work if you rae in #debian |
| 19:19.29 | stoned | I recorded an audio on my phone, put it on my debian pc |
| 19:19.32 | Pr0metheus | somiaj I tried to run them but couldn't find them |
| 19:19.41 | stoned | Now if I want to add a bit of reverb to that, how can I do this? |
| 19:19.50 | stoned | I tried audacity but that always freezes up |
| 19:19.54 | somiaj | Pr0metheus: they are packages, you need one of those packages to make use of that dns-nameservers option in your interfaces file |
| 19:20.09 | stoned | Any other software you know that can add reverb to a sound file? |
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| 19:22.20 | croddy | stoned there are a number of ladspa plugins that can do reverb but you'll need some sort of audio editor to host them |
| 19:22.47 | croddy | if audacity is locking up and you're using pulseaudio, try setting PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=50 or =100 to run audacity |
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| 19:23.12 | croddy | no good if you're trying to do near-real-time processing, of course, but good enough for just editing files |
| 19:23.20 | stoned | let me check |
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| 19:24.34 | stoned | host is alsa |
| 19:25.59 | Pr0metheus | Is it possible to put IP addresses in /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 19:26.24 | jelly | yes. |
| 19:26.28 | somiaj | Pr0metheus: I would assume so |
| 19:26.33 | stoned | Ok |
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| 19:26.36 | greycat | As part of an http:// or ftp:// URL, sure. Why not. |
| 19:27.10 | jelly | whether the http server is going to serve the correct content on http://ip.add.re.ss/ is another question |
| 19:27.56 | jelly | I don't know if ftp has virtual hosts these days |
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| 19:28.30 | greycat | I would assume he's doing this for a private repository of his own creation. |
| 19:28.48 | greycat | If he's doing it to get around broken DNS on a public mirror, he should just put the mirror's hostname and IP in /etc/hosts instead. |
| 19:28.57 | jelly | yes |
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| 19:29.19 | jelly | I like this talking about the present user in third person and giving them advice. |
| 19:29.21 | somiaj | or maybe fix the dns problem, which might just mean installing openresolv or resolvconf package. |
| 19:29.34 | jelly | Dominance: established. |
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| 19:31.11 | Pr0metheus | somiaj exactly, I can't install resolvconf, have no access to anything apart from network |
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| 19:31.37 | greycat | Pr0metheus: exactly what problem are you trying to solve? |
| 19:31.39 | somiaj | Pr0metheus: I would use greycat /etc/hosts suggestion over changing the mirror to an ip. |
| 19:31.49 | somiaj | Pr0metheus: or manually put the dns in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 19:32.02 | somiaj | (though this may get overwritten if so, that is what resolvconf/openresolv are for) |
| 19:32.15 | teraflops | stoned: hmm fmpeg-filters or just sox |
| 19:32.15 | Pr0metheus | ok will do with hosts |
| 19:32.29 | `ajven | Hi all ! I'm in country x, got VPS server with squid in country Y. I want to setup squid to as a proxy server. I need it for some programs and web browser see like im in country Y. Could you help me with config please ? http://dpaste.com/19BCQEG |
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| 19:33.14 | stoned | I just discovered sox on googly moogly |
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| 19:33.36 | teraflops | ffmpeg filters are great too |
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| 19:33.58 | jelly | sox still exists? |
| 19:34.01 | teraflops | yeah |
| 19:34.02 | jelly | wow |
| 19:34.14 | jelly | that piece of software is older than Linux, IIRC |
| 19:34.21 | stoned | lol |
| 19:34.21 | teraflops | hehe |
| 19:34.26 | stoned | I wonder if it can do m4a files |
| 19:34.30 | stoned | it surely does wav |
| 19:34.36 | stoned | I got probably compressed crapola from phone |
| 19:34.42 | jelly | !tias |
| 19:34.42 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 19:34.48 | stoned | eh, dork :D |
| 19:35.16 | teraflops | stoned: first extract the audio, do whatever you want, then merge the audio tack to the video |
| 19:35.55 | teraflops | or use video editing sw I think |
| 19:36.29 | teraflops | s/tack/track/ |
| 19:36.33 | stoned | I already make vidoes on openshot |
| 19:36.40 | stoned | just need to tweak the audio tracks first |
| 19:36.45 | stoned | i wishopenshot allowed audo editing |
| 19:36.53 | stoned | and cutting/pasting like that |
| 19:37.15 | stoned | Let me see if i can just do it on my phone, some android app, then xfer to debian |
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| 19:39.33 | n4dir | pacpl might help (in case it doesn't do m4a but does do wav, or whatever formats ) ? |
| 19:40.15 | stoned | well, just gonna add effects in audcatiy, export, and test audio eselwhere |
| 19:40.19 | stoned | stupid testing audio in audacity crahes it |
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| 19:41.50 | stoned | yeah, that works. I just dunno why my system's audio config (whatever it is atm, I don't remember) is freezing audacity. Also, I hear nothing but scratch out of hydrogen |
| 19:42.03 | stoned | after I use openshot, mplayer sound is scartchy, have to restart to get sound in system back |
| 19:42.04 | `ajven | any chance to take help here with squid server as a proxy server ? |
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| 19:42.31 | Artemis3 | stoned, try pulseaudio -k instead of restarting. |
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| 19:43.33 | teraflops | `ajven: setup your proxy tell the machines to use it |
| 19:43.44 | stoned | ok |
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| 19:44.59 | `ajven | teraflops thank you cpt obvious you save the day |
| 19:45.50 | teraflops | `ajven: you pasted the config not saying what your issue is |
| 19:46.48 | `ajven | because its not issue ?? I ask how to do that and paste my config |
| 19:47.22 | `ajven | was checking a squid tutorials but it looks the same like my but resoult is different |
| 19:47.45 | teraflops | if you use a proxy the programs that are using it will look like they are using proxy ip address, I dont see where the problem is |
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| 19:49.01 | `ajven | so i paste my squid config, put address of my server into firefox and still got same IP |
| 19:49.13 | `ajven | so its mean squid is not working as a proxy server |
| 19:49.26 | teraflops | that's a different question |
| 19:49.42 | teraflops | sorry for being captain obvious |
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| 19:55.11 | Pr0metheus | Is there a list of the packages installed with tasksel and selecting web server? It just says it installs a list of useful programs... |
| 19:55.52 | Pr0metheus | (as you can understand I managed to get access to the internet - thanks all:) |
| 19:56.36 | TomTomTo1 | yes, it installs this package and its dependencies. https://packages.debian.org/jessie/tasks/task-web-server |
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| 19:57.43 | Pr0metheus | tomtomto1 yeah, but what does it include? |
| 19:58.35 | missmbob | Pr0metheus: are you being serious? |
| 19:58.42 | n4dir | tasksel --task-packages web-server ; is said to list the according packages; from here: https://wiki.debian.org/tasksel |
| 19:58.43 | TomTomTo1 | the dependencies are listed on the website. |
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| 19:59.21 | TomTomTo1 | n4dir: did you run it before recommending it? |
| 19:59.38 | n4dir | no, i didn't. |
| 19:59.44 | Pr0metheus | ok let me try it n4dir |
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| 20:00.22 | Pr0metheus | result: task-web-server :P |
| 20:00.47 | Pavr | now you know |
| 20:00.54 | n4dir | then look at the site. |
| 20:01.09 | Pr0metheus | missmbob yes I am serious, what is the list of "packages useful for a general purpose web server system" |
| 20:01.22 | cicocico | hello @ll |
| 20:01.24 | cicocico | :) |
| 20:01.34 | greycat | Define "general purpose". Static files only? PHP? |
| 20:01.40 | somiaj | Pr0metheus: depends on what webserver you use and what you consider general. |
| 20:02.04 | Pavr | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/task-web-server |
| 20:02.39 | TomTomTo1 | Pavr: again. they are listed as dependencies on the site i linked. or run apt-cache depends task-web-server if you want to see it in your terminal... |
| 20:02.47 | somiaj | the LAMP collection is common, but still not what each user would need for a 'general web server' |
| 20:03.04 | Pavr | TomTomTo1, wrong guy |
| 20:03.18 | Pavr | or gal |
| 20:03.34 | Pr0metheus | so this thing just installs apache? |
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| 20:04.53 | Pr0metheus | greycat the quoted phrase is the description from the package webpage |
| 20:05.12 | somiaj | Pr0metheus: yea kinda a strange task, since it depends only on apache2 |
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| 20:05.21 | TomTomTo1 | recommends are installed too, i believe. |
| 20:05.29 | n4dir | perhaps so the list of tasks is not that short ... |
| 20:05.42 | somiaj | Pr0metheus: most likely there to help new users who don't know what websrever they want to install one during the install phase. |
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| 20:07.22 | Atm0spher1c | apt-listbugs seems to have pinned a package automatically to /etc/apt/preferences.d/apt-listbugs. I wanted to install it anyway, how can I undo this? |
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| 20:07.55 | n4dir | !hold |
| 20:07.55 | dpkg | hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771 (fixed in stretch). See also <hold list>, <unhold>. |
| 20:08.20 | n4dir | ah, unhold then |
| 20:08.29 | n4dir | !unhold |
| 20:08.29 | dpkg | Removing a <hold> status flag can be achieved through «echo packagename install | dpkg --set-selections», or «aptitude unhold packagename» if the package is held in aptitude. |
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| 20:08.58 | tomcres | there's also apt-mark hold/unhold foo |
| 20:09.16 | n4dir | probably more easy, as far it's me |
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| 20:10.25 | somiaj | Atm0spher1c: it doens't pin it automatically, but it asks you if you want to during the install. Just remove the file it put in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ (or preferences.d) that caused the file to be pinned |
| 20:10.27 | Atm0spher1c | I was using apt, then tried aptitude unhold, and it did nothing. I'll try apt-mark |
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| 20:10.37 | somiaj | it isn't held, it is pinned, there is a difference. |
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| 20:11.20 | user001 | hello |
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| 20:11.25 | Atm0spher1c | somiaj: maybe because I was writing stdout to a log file? 2>&1 | tee log |
| 20:11.40 | user001 | i would know what happened with kompozer package |
| 20:11.50 | somiaj | Atm0spher1c: could be, apt-list bugs should prompt the user about any rc bugs and ask the user what to do about them |
| 20:11.52 | user001 | does not exist on jessie repository |
| 20:12.01 | Pelle` | i think i have fucked up abit... i extended my raid.. and now when im trying to extend the partition wich is ext4 i cant do it since it has a max size of 16tb? and my raid is now at like 18.9... any way to get around that? |
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| 20:12.10 | Atm0spher1c | somiaj: yes, it always has. |
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| 20:13.29 | somiaj | ,v kompozer |
| 20:13.30 | judd | No package named 'kompozer' was found in amd64. |
| 20:13.38 | somiaj | user001: when was the last time you saw that package in debian |
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| 20:14.10 | user001 | where is kompozer? |
| 20:14.18 | user001 | what repository? |
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| 20:15.05 | somiaj | ,v kompozer |
| 20:15.06 | judd | No package named 'kompozer' was found in amd64. |
| 20:15.14 | TomTomTo1 | #690251 |
| 20:15.28 | TomTomTo1 | hmpf. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=690251 |
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| 20:15.33 | somiaj | user001: there is no package by that name recentally in debian, so I'd have to look in older releases to track down the bug/reason, looks like TomTomTo1 did this for you |
| 20:15.40 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/690251 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: kompozer -- ROM; dead upstream»; severity: normal; opened: 2012-10-11; last modified: 2012-11-09. |
| 20:15.52 | user001 | judd, i need install kompozer in my amd64 |
| 20:15.53 | judd | No package named 'need' was found in jessie/amd64. |
| 20:16.39 | somiaj | user001: well it is dead upstream, you can go search archive.debian.org for the old packages, but ymmv on if they work anymore, and no one will support them. Debian isn't and upstream is dead according to tha tbug |
| 20:18.13 | user001 | somiaj, thank you |
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| 20:20.26 | n4dir | seamonkey has composer as a simple html editor. As i don't know kompozer, i can't tell if that will suit your needs, user001 |
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| 20:25.45 | kernello | hello everyone, I'd like to reinstall my system with all present packages, so I found 'apt-clone'..but the command is new to me, and I don't make much sense of it; sudo apt-clone clone path-to/apt-clone-state-ubuntu-$(lsb_release -sr)-$(date +%F).tar.gz ? |
| 20:25.51 | kernello | what is 'path-to/apt-clone-state-ubuntu' here? |
| 20:26.21 | kernello | and what follows thereafter is supposed to remain as it is? |
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| 20:28.25 | somiaj | !aptitude clone |
| 20:28.25 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>. |
| 20:28.36 | somiaj | kernello: I prefer that approach as it stores auto/manual install info |
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| 20:31.03 | tomcres | question: if a package was removed from debian for being dead upstream, but has since been revived, is there any way to request its inclusion again? |
| 20:31.40 | TomTomTo1 | yes, you can file a RFP bug. |
| 20:31.50 | TomTomTo1 | !rfp |
| 20:31.51 | dpkg | Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, the section on that page "Adding new entries with "reportbug"" is a good place to start. Technically, a RFP is a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: ", ask me about <wnpp>. The best way of getting software packaged is to do it yourself: ask me about <nmg>. |
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| 20:32.51 | tomcres | TomTomTo1, thanks |
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| 20:35.55 | taylan | my system time keeps getting out of sync. by five minutes or so. ntpd is definitely running. what may be the problem? |
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| 20:36.16 | greycat | look for errors from ntp |
| 20:37.36 | taylan | where does openntpd log by default? |
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| 20:38.13 | taylan | nevermind, seems to be /var/log/daemon.log |
| 20:38.14 | greycat | When I don't know, I cd to /var/log and run ls -lart to see the files in mtime order, and then start reading the tails of the ones that look promising. |
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| 20:41.37 | somiaj | taylan: with systemd, systemctl status ntpd would be useful, or journalctl ntpd (think that is the syntax for journalctl) |
| 20:42.25 | taylan | I see a lot of messages like "adjusting local clock by x" where x tends to be around -300s which is about 5 minutes to the past, which seems about right, but I suppose the system doesn't accept it / reverts it so it keeps doing that |
| 20:43.11 | taylan | other than that there's a lot of "peer [IP address] is now valid" and rarely "... is now invalid" |
| 20:43.17 | greycat | That's definitely bad. You don't want your clock to be moved by 300s at a time. |
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| 20:43.55 | taylan | that too I guess :\ might that be why the system rejects the change?.. |
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| 20:44.04 | m4ndr4_ | how can i remove xorg and all the files related to it? is apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg enough? |
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| 20:46.01 | ttl- | does anybody know where to find the iwlwifi-3168-24.ucode firmware file |
| 20:46.05 | ttl- | ? |
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| 20:46.24 | kernello | thank you, somiaj! |
| 20:46.43 | thrmo | when is the testing branch freeze happening? |
| 20:46.52 | somiaj | ttl-: there is a newer firmware-iwlwifi package in jessie-backports, but this seems to be missing some of the newest firmware, in that case you can get it directly form intel |
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| 20:47.06 | somiaj | thrmo: it has been happening, final part of the freeze is feb. 5th |
| 20:47.20 | somiaj | thrmo: transition freeze happend about 2 months ago, and soft freeze (no new packages) happened jan. 5th. |
| 20:47.42 | thrmo | ty |
| 20:47.47 | greycat | And the full freeze is in a few days. |
| 20:47.53 | ttl- | somiaj: thanks but i don't find it from intel |
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| 20:48.15 | thrmo | greycat, how long from full freeze to release (in general)? |
| 20:48.24 | greycat | Your guess is as good as anyone's! |
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| 20:48.29 | greycat | !stretch pool 1 |
| 20:48.30 | dpkg | ! nauticalnexus=2017-04-19 cruncher=2017-04-12 cruncher=2017-02-18 bæbÄ«len=2017-05-06 TomTomTosch=2017-08-08 greycat=2017-08-15 jellÿ=2017-03-17 themÃll=2017-05-01 |
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| 20:49.08 | somiaj | ttl-: I know that somewhere around -22, -23 or -24 debian isnt' providing them, so you have to ge tthem from intel, and I don't know the links, you'll hvae to keep searchign intels pages. |
| 20:49.49 | somiaj | thrmo: it varries, I like to think 6 months give or take 2 months. the longest time was about a year, but the release team did not like that, and now has an agressive policy. 2months would be ideal, 6 months may be long compared to what jessie took. |
| 20:51.04 | thrmo | thanks somiaj! |
| 20:51.35 | somiaj | thrmo: usually the annoucment i sonly about a week or so before, you can follow https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ if you like |
| 20:52.14 | thrmo | i will |
| 20:53.01 | thrmo | thanks a lot |
| 20:53.11 | somiaj | thrmo: jessie froze Nov. 5th and was released April 25th for reference. |
| 20:53.18 | somiaj | note debian uses this time line |
| 20:53.27 | somiaj | !wir |
| 20:53.27 | dpkg | well, wir is When It's Ready. See also <rsn> and <siyh>. |
| 20:53.52 | thrmo | :) |
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| 20:55.23 | vista | Hi, does anyone happen to have any experience with installing debian on systems with SCSI/SAS controllers? In the "partitioning" section of the installer, I only see the USB drive as an option, `fdisk -l` shows all 16 disks |
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| 20:57.09 | somiaj | vista: using normal or expert install? |
| 20:57.15 | vista | normal |
| 20:57.45 | somiaj | vista: try expert, there is a phase in the expert it asks about installing additional software to the installer (udebs) that may be useful in seeing more complicated setups |
| 20:58.12 | vista | thanks for the tip |
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| 21:03.02 | john_rambo | Hi, I am trying to install gnumeric under Jessie but I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/23907231/ |
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| 21:08.20 | john_rambo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23907238/ |
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| 21:09.38 | TomTomTo1 | you need to fix your sources.list |
| 21:09.43 | TomTomTo1 | !jessie sources.list |
| 21:09.43 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 21:19.16 | vista | still not seeing any disks in the installer, have a server with a SAS controller |
| 21:19.59 | vista | I was able to repartition manually using fdisk, but the installer still does not give me the option to install to that |
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| 21:21.18 | somiaj | vista: might want to do a manuall install with debootstrap then, I don't know the hardware so no other avice |
| 21:21.27 | somiaj | vista: wait, are you botting efi or legacy? |
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| 21:22.19 | somiaj | vista: if booting efi you must use gtp partitions and fdisk only deals wtih mbr partition tables, so unsure if that will cause an issue. |
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| 21:25.45 | john_rambo | TomTomTo1, I am really confused ...Can u share your sources.list ? |
| 21:26.17 | greycat | The bot gave us all the standard one. |
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| 21:26.56 | mtn_ | john_rambo: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
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| 21:27.11 | john_rambo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23907321/ ....http://paste.ubuntu.com/23907331/ mtn_ |
| 21:27.37 | greycat | The use of an ubuntu.com paste site is somewhat concerning. |
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| 21:31.50 | shibumi | hello guys, whats wrong with this message? https://paste.archlinux.de/2dx/ here is my directory structure: https://paste.archlinux.de/2dx/ |
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| 21:32.50 | taylan | shibumi: You pasted the same link twice. |
| 21:32.54 | shibumi | ahhh sorry |
| 21:33.08 | shibumi | taylan: https://paste.archlinux.de/Uok/ |
| 21:33.11 | shibumi | thats my error |
| 21:33.13 | shibumi | sorry :) |
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| 21:39.48 | wedgie | I'm getting "The following pacakges have been kept back: openjdk-8-jre-headless" This is even with apt-get dist-upgrade. What am I missing? |
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| 21:40.03 | wedgie | (debian jessie) |
| 21:40.09 | abrotman | wedgie: aptitude install openjdk-8-jre-headless |
| 21:40.12 | abrotman | what does it say? |
| 21:41.40 | wedgie | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 21:41.40 | wedgie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:41.57 | wedgie | wants to remove ca-certificates-java and openjdk-8-jre-headless |
| 21:41.58 | greycat | ,v ca-certificates-java |
| 21:41.59 | judd | Package: ca-certificates-java on amd64 -- wheezy: 20121112+nmu2; jessie: 20140324; stretch: 20160321; jessie-backports: 20161107~bpo8+1; sid: 20161107; stretch: 20161107 |
| 21:42.09 | greycat | Hmm. |
| 21:42.21 | greycat | ,v openjdk-8-jre-headless |
| 21:42.22 | judd | Package: openjdk-8-jre-headless on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 8u111-b14-2~bpo8+1; sid: 8u121-b13-2; stretch: 8u121-b13-2 |
| 21:42.52 | greycat | Oh, unfortunately he didn't give us a version number of that one. |
| 21:43.14 | somiaj | it is a jessie-backports package so there are pinning issues, but it should be upgraded if it has already been installed from jessie backports |
| 21:43.34 | greycat | Sounds like manually upgrading ca-certificates-java first might be in order. |
| 21:43.45 | somiaj | wonder if it was some local install package confusing apt that it should be upgraded from jessie-backports |
| 21:44.32 | somiaj | nevermind that last statement, apt wouldn't think it would need to upgraded in that case, so yea maybe it now requires a new dependency from jessie-backports that was not installed and won't be without manual intervertion. |
| 21:44.49 | wedgie | don't think there any locally installed packages. java8 from backports, plus elastic stack stuff from the elastic.co repos |
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| 21:48.24 | wedgie | greycat: says ca-certificates-java is already newest version |
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| 21:49.22 | tomcres | wedgie did you specify -t jessie-backports? |
| 21:50.10 | wedgie | tomcres: no. Doing that seems to have done the trick :) Thanks! |
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| 21:50.45 | tomcres | :-) |
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| 21:59.11 | Cueball | Can anyone recommend some CD Ripping software? Would like to convert some CD's to flac and mp3. I know I could probably download them but I have the CD's here so would rather do it myself. |
| 21:59.23 | greycat | I use abcde |
| 21:59.37 | greycat | (with cdparanoia doing the actual ripping, and vorbis-tools for encoding to ogg vorbis) |
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| 22:00.04 | tomcres | I use asunder |
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| 22:01.19 | Cueball | Thanks greycat and tomcres Will check those out. |
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| 22:02.37 | greycat | If you want MP3 output files, I would use lame as the encoder. |
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| 22:19.42 | ambient | Hello, should I be concerned about this, do I need and can I get this firmware? |
| 22:19.44 | ambient | http://pastebin.com/KsBZknN8 |
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| 22:25.36 | SuperTramp83 | ambient, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=72645 |
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| 22:27.04 | squigz1 | X crashes whenever I try to launch a video. The x-window-manager process is also using 20TB of virtual memory. I'm on Debian 8, using the opensource graphics drivers |
| 22:28.00 | ambient | SuperTramp83, Thanks, I see the driver is no big deal. |
| 22:28.00 | teraflops | 20TB of virtual memory!?!? |
| 22:28.28 | squigz | teraflops: squigz 1493 0.0 6.3 21475042400 249364 tty1 S Jan25 3:45 \_ x-window-manager -a --restart /run/user/1000/i3/restart-state.1493 |
| 22:29.01 | tomcres | squigz what video hardware? |
| 22:29.24 | squigz | tomcres: An AMD HD 7770 |
| 22:30.04 | SuperTramp83 | ambient, exactly, yw! |
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| 22:33.07 | squigz | Is there any easy way to re-install X and all the components? |
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| 22:33.16 | squigz | I've had troubles doing that in the past, I've found it easier simply to reinstall Debian :P |
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| 22:34.01 | tomcres | honestly, I've had problems with radeonsi and jessie. I found it easier just to use the fglrx driver. |
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| 22:35.04 | squigz | I gave up on the proprietary driver :P |
| 22:35.17 | squigz | I forget all the reasons, but I remember one was it was hard to setup my 3 monitors |
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| 22:35.43 | tomcres | have you tried using the updated kernel and drivers from jessie-backports? |
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| 22:35.50 | squigz | No |
| 22:36.05 | squigz | I'll try that |
| 22:36.08 | squigz | but how? |
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| 22:36.17 | tomcres | !jessie-backports |
| 22:36.17 | dpkg | Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
| 22:36.59 | tomcres | what it says, but add "contrib non-free" to the end as you'll probably also want the latest firmware-linux-nonfree from backports, too |
| 22:37.21 | squigz | I have 100 upgrades to get. Can I enable backports and then update and upgrade? |
| 22:38.05 | Brigo | squigz, yes |
| 22:38.20 | squigz | Oh I already have the main contrib and non-free backport sources |
| 22:38.27 | squigz | Sorry about that |
| 22:38.27 | TomTomTo1 | you really don't want to upgrade with backports pinned high. |
| 22:38.42 | tomcres | once you add that to /etc/apt/sources.list, do apt update, then you can apt -t jessie-backports linux-image-amd64 xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 22:39.05 | tomcres | oops... apt -t jessie-backports install ... |
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| 22:39.07 | squigz | tomcres: I already had the backports added, i didn't remember though |
| 22:39.13 | squigz | Do I just do the apt install? |
| 22:39.27 | tomcres | yes |
| 22:40.10 | squigz | Alright, things are about to happen |
| 22:40.12 | squigz | Reboot after? |
| 22:40.32 | tomcres | yes |
| 22:40.37 | squigz | cool, wish me luck |
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| 22:40.45 | tomcres | doesn't hurt to cross fingers either :-) |
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| 22:42.08 | squigz | I was using kernel 3.16 I think, new one is 4.9 |
| 22:42.13 | squigz | That's pretty old |
| 22:42.20 | squigz | Time to reboot, brb |
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| 22:43.50 | squigz | x-window-manager is still reporting 20TB |
| 22:43.55 | squigz | I'd rather not try and launch a video |
| 22:44.28 | tomcres | did you also install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu and firmware-linux-nonfree from jessie-backports? |
| 22:45.24 | squigz | If that was in the list of packages you sent me, yes |
| 22:45.30 | Atm0spher1c | I just formatted a usb as both ext4 and then ext2. When attempting to mount on another machine I keep getting mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext2'. Could I be missing a package or something? |
| 22:45.44 | tomcres | OK, which window manager/desktop environment are you running? |
| 22:45.48 | squigz | tomcres: i3 |
| 22:46.02 | squigz | Mmm. I am running i3-gaps, a fork |
| 22:46.05 | squigz | I'll try i3 |
| 22:46.11 | tomcres | shoot, that shouldn't require anything NEAR 20 terabytes lol |
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| 22:46.34 | squigz | Of course |
| 22:46.42 | squigz | And it's constantly at 20TB, even immediatley after launching |
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| 22:47.27 | squigz | Okay it's a problem with i3-gaps |
| 22:47.34 | squigz | I just switched back to normal i3 and it's fine |
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| 22:47.50 | tomcres | could be a memory leak in the i3-gaps code |
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| 22:48.01 | squigz | That's a pretty bad leak :P |
| 22:48.16 | squigz | tomcres: thanks for the help :) |
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| 22:48.30 | tomcres | no prob. at least you have an up-to-date graphics stack anyway. |
| 22:48.34 | squigz | lol yeah |
| 22:48.37 | Atm0spher1c | that's too bad, I was planning to build i3-gaps |
| 22:48.53 | squigz | Atm0spher1c: it's an old build, it could be updated by now |
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| 22:49.09 | squigz | I'd give it a shot, the features are nice |
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| 22:49.34 | Iridos | you have 20TB ram? |
| 22:49.41 | squigz | No |
| 22:50.13 | tw | vss is not actually real, it's just what it requested. |
| 22:51.02 | squigz | Why would that cause crashes when I try to launch videos? |
| 22:51.03 | Iridos | maybe just a peek into the future⦠|
| 22:51.52 | teraflops | Iridos: nah |
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| 22:52.24 | Iridos | you just wait⦠the time will come when 20TB ram for a window manager will be seen as reasonable |
| 22:52.26 | tomcres | i dunno. maybe it's messing up the window manager's memory map and it's having trouble allocating RAM |
| 22:52.45 | squigz | Iridos: A couple TB, maybe :P |
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| 22:53.00 | tomcres | iridos a tiling window manager at that! |
| 22:53.05 | Iridos | :D |
| 22:53.07 | squigz | hah, apparently |
| 22:53.49 | Iridos | just remember that everything used to fit in to 640K⦠and into 64K shortly before that 25ish years ago⦠and where we are now |
| 22:53.56 | teraflops | bah if you run i3gaps you deserve all evil :D |
| 22:54.18 | squigz | teraflops: rude :P |
| 22:54.25 | tomcres | my first computer had 2K of RAM |
| 22:54.26 | squigz | It works for my specific use case |
| 22:54.30 | TomTomTo1 | boos teraflops off the stage |
| 22:54.33 | squigz | I have trouble seeing the outer edges of my monitors |
| 22:54.48 | teraflops | sorry but whats the point of having gaps in a tilling wm⦠|
| 22:55.00 | squigz | Outer gaps, for me |
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| 22:55.05 | squigz | inner gaps are stupid |
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| 22:56.44 | Atm0spher1c | any idea on this lame error - mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext2' |
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| 22:57.01 | TomTomTo1 | i3 has borders and a bar at the top of windows too. |
| 22:57.29 | Atm0spher1c | those can be hidden |
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| 22:57.45 | squigz | I have 1px borders and actually 2 status bars |
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| 22:57.54 | squigz | 1 on top for time and date, workspace list, and system tray |
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| 22:58.02 | squigz | Bottom is blank, but used for scrolling between workspaces |
| 22:59.29 | teraflops | squigz: anyway where does it say is using 20 TB here? squigz 1493 0.0 6.3 21475042400 249364 tty1 S Jan25 3:45 \_ x-window-manager -a --restart |
| 22:59.40 | squigz | 21475042400 |
| 22:59.45 | teraflops | ugh nope |
| 22:59.58 | squigz | Htop also says '20.0T' |
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| 23:00.12 | squigz | Sorry, I'm not knowledgeable in memory and proccess and whatnot |
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| 23:00.57 | sts | are there any debian vagrant images which 'just boot'? (so including the virtualbox tools) |
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| 23:01.25 | sts | *stretch - i forgot to add. |
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| 23:05.27 | Redfoxmoon | Is the old homepage for dash down and gone for good, or is it just temporarily down? |
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| 23:06.13 | aypea[1] | hi. what package name would I give to reportbug to report a problem with the installer? |
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| 23:06.55 | aypea[1] | debian-installer ? |
| 23:07.43 | aypea[1] | hrm |
| 23:07.49 | aypea[1] | nope |
| 23:08.28 | Iridos | yes |
| 23:08.28 | teraflops | aypea[1]: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Bugs |
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| 23:12.24 | aypea[1] | teraflops: thanks. led me to seeing that someone already reported the same asstertion failure. |
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| 23:12.46 | aypea[1] | in 2014! whoa |
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| 23:14.51 | aypea[1] | and... woo. same result. UI hang |
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| 23:17.35 | aypea[1] | and installer's useless now. bloop. |
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| 23:19.29 | teraflops | aypea[1]: if you really cannot use the installer because a bug, try deboostrap I think |
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| 23:20.24 | aypea[1] | teraflops: don't know yet. this is the first time I've hit something like this. just rebooted and am going to play a bit more with it |
| 23:24.01 | aypea[1] | good god. I remmebered how to set up a vlan with the ip command. my brain must be /so/ broken. |
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| 23:43.35 | tw | Is there a command I can use to revoke or expire user-logon keys in the kernel keyring after they have left my session? |
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| 23:44.05 | tw | In (overly verbose) example: https://paste.debian.net/912331/ |
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