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| 00:27.04 | tharkun | Aloha, diff is throwing that two identical lines are different. I will assume that diff is right, how can I see the nonprintable characters? |
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| 00:28.39 | tw | off the top of my head, xxd, dhex, or vi's :set list |
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| 00:54.40 | ryouma | tharkun: cat -v /inter alia/ |
| 00:54.53 | ryouma | or just open it in emacs |
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| 01:08.56 | tharkun | ryouma: I prefer debian having an os within an os is not my style (pun intended) :) |
| 01:12.06 | ryouma | debian exists to run emacs |
| 01:12.12 | tharkun | lol |
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| 01:16.52 | gwozt | hey guys, i was gonna download a debian disc image but i don't know which is the right architecture for my intel i7 64 bit hardware |
| 01:17.09 | gwozt | i went with amd64 |
| 01:17.24 | TomTomTo1 | !amd64 |
| 01:17.24 | dpkg | amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Intel Core 2, Core i3/i5/i7 and Xeon (since 2004) systems are x86-64. The AMD64 architecture also supports running Debian i386 with either a -686-pae or -amd64 kernel. See also <why amd64> and <why not amd64>. |
| 01:17.57 | gwozt | so i downloaded the right image right, dpkg? |
| 01:18.06 | TomTomTo1 | that's right. |
| 01:18.11 | gwozt | thx yall |
| 01:18.19 | missmbob | gwozt: laptop? |
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| 01:20.02 | gwozt | yeah |
| 01:20.10 | missmbob | consider this then |
| 01:20.14 | missmbob | !firmware iso |
| 01:20.15 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
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| 01:20.26 | gwozt | now i have an iso file and a usb stick can i burn the iso into usb using terminal? |
| 01:20.44 | missmbob | cp foo.iso /dev/sdx;sync |
| 01:20.52 | exssaa | fuck now my /etc/rc.local isnt starting on boot |
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| 01:21.17 | spitfireee | win 5$ only for register guys! NO JOKE - > https://www.dailyrewards.com/?r=ref362870&s=7 |
| 01:21.35 | gwozt | missmbob: does that make a huge difference? |
| 01:22.01 | gwozt | and should i pay to get a decent copy of debain? |
| 01:22.31 | gwozt | i mean is that a requirement? |
| 01:22.36 | missmbob | no |
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| 01:24.44 | TomTomTo1 | non-free is still gratis, if you meant that. it's just not free software in terms of licensing and source code availability. |
| 01:25.51 | gwozt | but i downloaded this from debian's official website |
| 01:26.12 | missmbob | and you should enjoy it |
| 01:26.49 | gwozt | ok guys thx very much |
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| 01:38.41 | gwozt | missmbob: debain says that my hardware for internet doesn't support dkhc or sumtin. what would you suggest that i do now? |
| 01:40.17 | missmbob | gwozt: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/stretch_di_rc2/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-stretch-DI-rc2-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 01:43.25 | gwozt | missmbob: i already went with "configure it later" so can i do what is necessary later? |
| 01:44.46 | missmbob | i would just use the stretch iso and hope for the best |
| 01:45.01 | missmbob | it's in full freeze |
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| 01:47.14 | gwozt | what do you mean by full freeze? |
| 01:47.29 | missmbob | it's about to be released |
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| 01:50.57 | likcoras | How would I go around using an existing encrypted partition in the installer (preserving existing data). I have lvm on luks, trying to use the free space on the lvm to install debian on. |
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| 01:53.00 | themill | if by "about to be released" you mean "some time towards the middle of this year", then ok... |
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| 01:59.10 | WechKep | Just... |
| 01:59.11 | WechKep | Just ate a burger at the sleazy joint |
| 01:59.11 | WechKep | Now I gotta take a shit, get to the point |
| 01:59.11 | WechKep | Sittin' on the toilet, my ass is a blast |
| 01:59.11 | WechKep | Runnin' smelly diarrhea outta my ass |
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| 01:59.30 | WechKep | No fuckin' paper |
| 01:59.30 | WechKep | Hey baby lick my ass 'til your face turns blue |
| 01:59.36 | WechKep | You're finished rimmin' me and you want some more |
| 01:59.37 | WechKep | Ya say ya don't flush but your out the door |
| 01:59.49 | WechKep | I'm back in the...with a cup |
| 01:59.50 | WechKep | Scoop it outta the toilet 'cause you wanna slurp it up |
| 01:59.54 | WechKep | Eat my diarrhea you're chuggin' it down |
| 01:59.54 | WechKep | You're suckin' my ass and your lips are all brown |
| 02:00.04 | WechKep | Since we've gone back to the hamburger place |
| 02:00.05 | WechKep | I'm gonna stick my ass right on your face |
| 02:00.11 | WechKep | I'm gonna shit in your mouth |
| 02:00.12 | WechKep | I'm gonna shit in your face, your mouth |
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| 02:00.19 | WechKep | And I wanna shit on your mother |
| 02:00.20 | WechKep | I'm gonna shit on you and your mother |
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| 02:01.36 | nathan | themill++ |
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| 02:03.49 | awal1 | same troll as last night and same "poem" :D |
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| 05:44.51 | ldumont | So this one is weird. I've just moved 6 servers 20 feet in a rack and I've lost 6 drives in 3 different servers. They are Dell 1950 in Raid1 with somewhat used disks. |
| 05:44.54 | ldumont | What the fuck? |
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| 05:46.08 | somiaj | maybe a loose plug from the move? |
| 05:46.33 | Rusty1_ | and it aint even Monday |
| 05:46.38 | Rusty1_ | yet |
| 05:47.15 | ldumont | Maybe? |
| 05:47.20 | ldumont | But they were shutdown |
| 05:47.40 | ldumont | The only thing in common in no raid cache battery. But everything was properly shutdown |
| 05:48.04 | Rusty1_ | battery was what i was thinking |
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| 05:54.16 | dvs | didn't want to help people tonight anyways. ;-) |
| 06:04.44 | mrtrump | hmm |
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| 06:05.01 | mrtrump | anyone have trouble with chrome crashing on testing? |
| 06:05.04 | mrtrump | amd64? |
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| 06:05.48 | themill | the bts might know |
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| 06:11.56 | fat_rat | what option in bios should I enable before installing linux, legacy support or secure boot? |
| 06:12.31 | missmbob | debian doesnt support secure boot |
| 06:13.07 | fat_rat | ok ill try |
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| 06:15.45 | fat_rat | how to delete windows boot manager? |
| 06:16.42 | missmbob | the installer will do it for you |
| 06:17.03 | heistheone | I cant remember what, but I was looking at info about my root filesystem and there was this string like '0xGH34' or something close. Can someone tell me what it is? |
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| 06:19.32 | fat_rat | missmbob: yeah but i didn't :/ maybe i should delete win7 entry from grub? |
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| 06:35.43 | shalok | Why does this command result in the removal of packages?: aptitude markauto '~i !~M ~R~i' |
| 06:37.47 | shalok | I'm selecting only packages that are depended upon by something that is installed... these should only be packages that it's safe to markauto, right? |
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| 06:39.33 | somiaj | shalok: the space makes it or I belive, so you makred everything as auto |
| 06:40.14 | somiaj | try search with that to see exactly which packages got marked auto |
| 06:40.40 | shalok | somiaj: spaces are 'and' |
| 06:41.09 | themill | no |
| 06:41.36 | shalok | yes |
| 06:41.38 | shalok | =) |
| 06:41.43 | themill | well, it's complicated... it depends on whether you let the shell split it or not |
| 06:41.50 | themill | (you are not) |
| 06:42.26 | shalok | The way I'm doing it is 'and'. I already tested this. |
| 06:42.59 | themill | ack, but "spaces are and" is not universally true and is a common trap |
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| 06:46.46 | shalok | I figured it out. It's circular dependencies. |
| 06:47.39 | shalok | A depends on B and B depends on A. Both A and B get marked auto since they match the pattern and apt is smart enough to purge them. |
| 06:49.23 | EazyMachine | Can someone tell me where I download SHA512SUMS.sign???? |
| 06:49.36 | themill | EazyMachine: from the same directory |
| 06:50.07 | EazyMachine | themill: I don't understand what you mean |
| 06:50.27 | themill | Is this for the installer? |
| 06:50.36 | EazyMachine | yes |
| 06:50.54 | themill | So you downloaded the ISO from a web server. That file is in the same place |
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| 06:57.18 | EazyMachine | themill: There is no file named sha512.sign to download on the same page as netinstall. There is no file named sha512.sign in verify directory either. |
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| 06:57.39 | themill | Exact URLs, please |
| 06:58.08 | EazyMachine | https://www.debian.org/CD/verify |
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| 06:58.14 | EazyMachine | https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 06:58.40 | themill | no, same directory as the ISO files |
| 06:58.50 | themill | The ISO files are not on www.debian.org |
| 06:59.53 | EazyMachine | And where is the directory? |
| 07:00.21 | themill | You just downloaded the ISO file from it... |
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| 07:01.01 | themill | At this stage, only you know the URL of the ISO file you downloaded. |
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| 07:04.33 | EazyMachine | themill: https://caesar.acc.umu.se ? |
| 07:07.00 | themill | that's not a URL to an ISO file |
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| 07:07.37 | themill | but yes, the URL was probably to that machine (or something pointing to it like cdimage.debian.org) |
| 07:08.06 | EazyMachine | https://ftp.acc.umu.se This is where I download "from" according to firefox. |
| 07:08.49 | themill | Just go to the page where you downloaded it from |
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| 07:10.35 | themill | There was a link and you clicked it. Links point to URLs. URLs give you data. The files you want are in the same directory as the ISO file. |
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| 07:17.29 | EazyMachine | themill: Think I found them now. webboot = netinstall or is it iso-hybrid? What does hybrid mean? |
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| 07:20.19 | EazyMachine | themill: Nevermind I get it now. Thanks. |
| 07:20.20 | somiaj | EazyMachine: the image is set to boot from a cd or usb, can also support legacy or efi boot |
| 07:21.43 | EazyMachine | somiaj: ye i found it, but it shows only information in the beginning and I had to scroll down to see the files on my directory.. |
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| 07:23.46 | somiaj | I was just explaing what hybrid meant |
| 07:24.29 | somiaj | but glad you found it. |
| 07:24.30 | remo | why debian long boot with systemd ? I have one static eth0 interface. Debian start 50second |
| 07:24.54 | somiaj | remo: systemd-analyze to see what time different services took |
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| 07:25.36 | awal1 | EazyMachine, from here http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/ you have almost all what you need about debian images, including what you was looking |
| 07:25.45 | remo | somiaj: Startup finished in 2.112s (kernel) + 4min 8.584s (userspace) = 4min 10.696s |
| 07:25.59 | somiaj | remo: it didn't give you info about what services took what amount of time |
| 07:26.00 | awal1 | you get almost ^ |
| 07:26.23 | somiaj | remo: hmm, one second, I thoguht it gave more info |
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| 07:26.44 | EazyMachine | somiaj: I just saw the beginning of your text and thought you where guiding me to where I was supposed to go. ;d |
| 07:26.46 | somiaj | remo: try systemd-anaylize blame |
| 07:27.32 | remo | somiaj: 2min 4.302s networking.service |
| 07:27.32 | remo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:27.55 | somiaj | exim might be waiting for the networking. Do you use the interface file for networking? |
| 07:27.56 | EazyMachine | awal1: what's the difference between my link adn yours? We get different because of localisation? |
| 07:28.47 | somiaj | remo: networking is being slow. It takes 13 seconds here, but for some reason it takes that to set up my static bridge I have for my vms |
| 07:29.06 | awal1 | EazyMachine, ...umu.se ? |
| 07:29.09 | somiaj | remo: please share your file at paste.debian.net and not send me a message |
| 07:29.28 | somiaj | EazyMachine: cdimage.debian.org is just a reidrecotr to some mirror, you probably just have a mirror |
| 07:29.37 | EazyMachine | awal1: That's where it takes me when I click the link |
| 07:30.04 | remo | somiaj: https://paste.debian.net/912859/ |
| 07:30.07 | somiaj | remo: looks like you have a static bridge too. I have noticed that has slowed my boot, but I'm only at 13.4s and not 2mins like you. |
| 07:30.35 | awal1 | EazyMachine, that should be the direct link/mirror for the iso |
| 07:31.02 | somiaj | remo: you are also running scripts with that network that could be taking time. But I can't really help you more than point out that is what is taking time. |
| 07:31.23 | awal1 | EazyMachine, cdimage... is a redirector, as somiaj told you |
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| 07:33.09 | EazyMachine | awal1: aight. |
| 07:33.34 | EazyMachine | Since I already installed my iso file on my usb stick I guess I need to re-install that? including my debian , in order to verify? |
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| 07:34.21 | somiaj | EazyMachine: if you verrified the image, then you don't need to recopy it to the usb stick. |
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| 07:34.55 | somiaj | EazyMachine: are you having any issues with the install or did you just want to verify the image you downlaoded was right? |
| 07:35.09 | EazyMachine | somiaj: I never verified it before I put it on usb stick, and I did install debian with that stick. |
| 07:35.18 | EazyMachine | Yes, I just want to verify my debian I'm using right now. |
| 07:35.29 | somiaj | do you still have a copy of the .iso you downloaded? |
| 07:35.38 | somiaj | if it verifies you should be fine and not need to reinstall. |
| 07:35.42 | remo | somiaj: I'm comment post up. Boot time not decrease |
| 07:36.14 | EazyMachine | No I don't, it's gone together with the old debian. Only fraction left of it is the usb stick it created. |
| 07:36.52 | somiaj | EazyMachine: You should be able to verify from that, provided you stop at the end of the image (not the usb device) -- not posoitve on the details though |
| 07:37.07 | somiaj | remo: unsure what to look at and could be taking long. did you check dmesg for networking warnings? |
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| 07:39.14 | EazyMachine | somiaj: "provided you stop at the end of the image" What do you mean? What img? |
| 07:39.48 | EazyMachine | it's not a iso file anymore the info on the usb, or should I "remake" it to an iso file or smthin<? |
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| 07:40.24 | somiaj | EazyMachine: when copying the image to the usb stick using cp, dd, you put an exact copy on the usb drive, but the image is smaller than the drive, so if you tried to check the whole drive you won't get the correct checksum, but if you end at the point the image ended, it should be the same image and thus match the checksum |
| 07:42.25 | EazyMachine | somiaj: Ok, I'll check it out and come back if I won't make it. |
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| 07:52.36 | EazyMachine | somiaj: Should the SHA files be on the usb stick when I verify them? Not sure how I should do this, since I'm supposed to have the sha files + iso file in same folder when I verify them? |
| 07:53.08 | somiaj | sha256sum /dev/sdX will sum the usb drive, but it may sum the whole drive and not just the image. |
| 07:53.31 | somiaj | how did you put the iso on the usb drive in the fist place? |
| 07:54.19 | EazyMachine | somiaj: I used DD in terminal, as debian.org says |
| 07:54.42 | somiaj | then you can just sum the usb drive, but I don't know how to ensure the sum stops at the end of the image and not the end of the drive. |
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| 07:55.17 | EazyMachine | somiaj: How do I sum it? |
| 07:55.37 | somiaj | I gave you the command, sha256sum /dev/sdX provided you want an sha256 sum |
| 07:55.43 | somiaj | where /dev/sdX is your usb drive |
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| 07:57.22 | EazyMachine | somiaj: kk, how does it know what sha code it should use? |
| 07:57.26 | sdx23 | this is of no use. The checksum of sdx and the iso will differ. |
| 07:58.04 | somiaj | I didn't think it would, unless you could stop the sum at the end of the image (not the device) but unsure how to do that. |
| 07:58.44 | sdx23 | You could dd the exact amount of bytes that were in the image into a pipe over to shasum |
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| 07:59.19 | EazyMachine | If it would be possible to make an ISO file of it maybe? Then it would be like it reverts to the same as it was? |
| 07:59.38 | sdx23 | Why you even want to do this? |
| 08:00.26 | EazyMachine | To verify the files that I used to install my debian system with |
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| 08:00.52 | molavy | hi |
| 08:01.07 | EazyMachine | It was a differ on the sha |
| 08:01.15 | molavy | i have project using php5, i just install debian 8 |
| 08:01.21 | sdx23 | Well, best do it before writing the iso file to the usb pendrive. |
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| 08:01.39 | molavy | i has php 7 and my project has problem with that php version |
| 08:01.49 | molavy | how can i install php 5 on debian 8 |
| 08:01.50 | awal1 | EazyMachine, you said you removed the iso file; so how will you be able to compare? |
| 08:02.14 | somiaj | ,v php5 |
| 08:02.15 | judd | Package: php5 on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u6; jessie: 5.6.29+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.29+dfsg-0+deb8u1 |
| 08:02.35 | somiaj | molavy: just install the package php5, on jessie you will get version 5.6 |
| 08:03.08 | EazyMachine | awal1: When I did your command I got back a sha code and idk wtf I'm doing atm. Was thinking I could compare it to the one on the download site |
| 08:03.31 | somiaj | !debsums |
| 08:03.31 | dpkg | rumour has it, debsums is a utility that will check a package's files against their checksums. The "-a" argument will instruct it to also check configuration files: "aptitude install debsums; debsums -a -s". Most packages come with md5sums included in the package; if apt's package cache is clean, then generate missing sums with "aptitude reinstall `debsums -l`". Ask me about <md5sums>. |
| 08:03.42 | awal1 | EazyMachine, it's possible to do what you want but you need your original iso file |
| 08:04.08 | somiaj | if you knew the exact number of bytes of the image, they might be able to copy it back off the thumbdrive and then check. |
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| 08:04.36 | EazyMachine | awal1: That is destroyed information by zeros. |
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| 08:04.45 | awal1 | maybe the sha256 sum you got now is different compared to the one used for your original iso file |
| 08:05.44 | EazyMachine | ok, I'll just re-install it then to be sure. |
| 08:06.17 | awal1 | you have useful info here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#Check_the_iso_file |
| 08:06.53 | somiaj | EazyMachine: might be easiest, and give you the peace of mind you seek. |
| 08:07.35 | awal1 | see section "Check the CD" |
| 08:07.49 | somiaj | in this case it isn't a CD, so that won't work |
| 08:08.44 | somiaj | the pendrive could be checked, provided you stop at the end of the image, not the device as I have said. But this isn't an easy task, sdx23 suggestion of dd and knowing the exact number of bytes in the image may work |
| 08:08.52 | awal1 | my idea is: no original iso file = not possible to compare, probably |
| 08:09.10 | EazyMachine | somiaj: 1tb hdd takes time to re-install, but you are correct, it will peace my mind. |
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| 08:09.48 | awal1 | bcuz the sha256 sum he got now may not be the same as the one used for his previous iso file |
| 08:10.30 | EazyMachine | awal1: But why isn't it correct if I make an iso file of my usb stick? |
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| 08:12.04 | EazyMachine | awal1: nevermind, got it. |
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| 08:16.48 | awal1 | EazyMachine, you can yeah if you are sure that the sha.../md5 sums of your original (previous iso used) are the same as the ones you got today |
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| 08:17.43 | EazyMachine | awal1: ye I figured that out after some time. My brain seems to lack speed nowadays. |
| 08:20.02 | awal1 | EazyMachine, if you are paranoid, you shouldn't use netinst iso at all |
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| 08:22.39 | EazyMachine | awal1: So, there can be man-in-middle attack during this process too? |
| 08:23.27 | awal1 | EazyMachine, why not |
| 08:25.15 | EazyMachine | awal1: There is 3 different dvd's? Do I need them all? |
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| 08:26.14 | awal1 | EazyMachine, standard software is almost in the 1st |
| 08:26.43 | EazyMachine | awal1: ye saw it now, I guess stuff like desktop enviroment is on the other? |
| 08:27.01 | awal1 | no |
| 08:27.15 | awal1 | DE are all in dvd1 |
| 08:28.10 | EazyMachine | How do I clean a usb stick? In disks app nothing happens with the stuff on it right now (netinst img) |
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| 08:29.52 | EazyMachine | Nevermind, found a way. |
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| 08:34.01 | awal1 | EazyMachine, if you want to know wich dvd contains the pkg you want use https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search |
| 08:35.59 | EazyMachine | Cool, thanks. I guess I will go with 1 and install later whatever I need. |
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| 08:37.45 | Iridos | [09:20] <awal1> EazyMachine, if you are paranoid, you shouldn't use netinst iso at all |
| 08:37.52 | Iridos | what, why? |
| 08:38.32 | EazyMachine | Iridos: I guess it's because you're downloading stuff just as you do when you download the file? |
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| 08:40.06 | awal1 | Iridos: you have a looong answer here https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ :P |
| 08:40.53 | EazyMachine | awal1: Was my answer correct, if we make a long story short? |
| 08:40.58 | Iridos | that's not an answer, that's the securing howto and I doubt it even mentions netinstall |
| 08:41.39 | Iridos | EazyMachine, if you want to install, you will have to "download stuff" or have a CD shipped to you⦠|
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| 08:42.25 | EazyMachine | With the dvd also? Thought you don't need internet connection for that one? |
| 08:42.29 | awal1 | Iridos, I mentionned netinst bcuz it connect to the net |
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| 08:42.57 | awal1 | not suitable for offline install |
| 08:43.23 | Iridos | that is true⦠but what does that have to do with security and "if you'Re paranoid"? nothing. |
| 08:44.12 | EazyMachine | how does the synaptic manager work? I mean, there you download stuff without any manual verification? |
| 08:44.24 | awal1 | a brief response/resume, and it's correct https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch3.en.html#s3.3 |
| 08:45.48 | Iridos | that can be a point. not valid if you're doing an install in your private nat, though |
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| 08:47.36 | EazyMachine | awal1: Thank you. |
| 08:49.44 | awal1 | Iridos: for start, I / you don't even know if my / your non free bios is free of malware... |
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| 08:50.11 | Iridos | using or not using netinstall won't change a thing on that |
| 08:50.21 | Iridos | :) |
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| 08:52.02 | EazyMachine | awal1: Explain more? |
| 08:52.05 | awal1 | Iridos: are you sure that your internet provider isn't sniffing you right now? |
| 08:52.19 | Pavr | puts on his tinfoil hat |
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| 08:52.29 | Iridos | awal1, what about that camera in front of your door |
| 08:52.41 | Iridos | I think we're getting offtopic and should move to #d-o |
| 08:52.42 | awal1 | :D :D :D |
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| 08:53.44 | awal1 | I'm not paranoid, so I don't really care about all that; it's almost EazyMachine concern :P |
| 08:54.12 | Iridos | well, you know the saying⦠|
| 08:54.27 | Iridos | just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you |
| 08:56.02 | awal1 | Internet = no privacy |
| 08:56.21 | Iridos | I think that's facebook you mean |
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| 08:56.57 | awal1 | fbook is for kids |
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| 08:57.22 | awal1 | a simple example people ignore |
| 08:57.25 | awal1 | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=no&bug=827395 |
| 08:57.42 | Iridos | it's all the nicer for kids, because it can record their life from the moment they're born |
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| 08:58.24 | awal1 | Iridos, have you been aware of that bug? |
| 08:58.43 | awal1 | that's just a very simple example |
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| 09:02.13 | Iridos | *shrug* |
| 09:02.24 | Iridos | I trust mozilla and everyone it contacts |
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| 10:44.20 | EazyMachine | Can anyone tell me why what I'm doing wrong when verifying debian ISO img? I downloaded the ISO file, then I copied the SHA512SUMS code to a gedit file + same with SHA512SUMS.sign, put them all in same folder but I get error: https://paste.debian.net/912873/ |
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| 10:51.36 | themill | can't open `SHA512SUMS.sign' is pretty clear |
| 10:52.13 | Li | how to use apt download <packaName> to automatically download all required dependencies at once? |
| 10:54.14 | themill | 'required' is not as simple as you would like to think. apt-zip or apt-offline might help you |
| 10:55.47 | EazyMachine | themill: pretty clear I asked what I'm doing wrong not what the error msg said |
| 10:58.23 | themill | EazyMachine: you don't have a file called SHA512SUMS.sign. I don't know what you did do. I also don't know why gedit is involved in downloading files. |
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| 11:00.00 | EazyMachine | themill: I can't download the shasum, if I click on it in the directory I get redirected to a new site where the code is. How do I download the file and not getting redirected to the code? |
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| 11:01.30 | EazyMachine | https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
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| 11:04.32 | n3wborn | EazyMachine: get in the directory where your iso is and type in a terminal : wget https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-dvd/SHA512SUMS.sign |
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| 11:08.00 | EazyMachine | n3wborn: Thx |
| 11:08.42 | n3wborn | EazyMachine: wget will download the SHA512SUMS.sign file (in the current directory, so use "cd" to get in the directory where your iso is). Then you will be able to verify your iso |
| 11:09.21 | n3wborn | EazyMachine: no problem |
| 11:09.42 | EazyMachine | n3wborn: Got it. It works now |
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| 11:12.09 | n3wborn | EazyMachine: nice |
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| 11:15.37 | Li | I guess I've screwed the system now .. how to get clear/cancle all this pending -f install dependenies from apt-get? |
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| 11:16.28 | Li | anything I do it asks me to do download/install 253MB with apt -f install .. I don't wanna do that |
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| 11:16.52 | LordThumper | Hey, what is the best way to use Transmission 2.9.2 on debian stable? |
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| 11:18.02 | elwisp | im at a total loss here, i need to run virsh edit vmname, but virsh does not find vms |
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| 12:05.20 | jcdr | Hi all, I dist-upgrade stretch today and this have silently overwritten /lib/systemd/system/network-manager.service. Very bad as this file need modification because of bug #820174 and leave this remote machine without network. Is that nomral that service file are overwritten without admin authorization ? |
| 12:05.21 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/820174 in network-manager (open): «network-manager: fails to start: "Failed at step NAMESPACE"»; severity: important; opened: 2016-04-06; last modified: 2016-04-13. |
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| 12:20.39 | de-facto | Hmm why do i get "apt install openjdk-8-jre-headless" -> "openjdk-8-jre-headless : Depends: ca-certificates-java but it is not going to be installed" BUT "apt install ca-certificates-java" -> "ca-certificates-java is already the newest version." |
| 12:21.01 | de-facto | so it complains about a missing package wich is already the newest version? |
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| 12:21.47 | TomTomTo1 | use the -t jessie-backports option when installing from backports. |
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| 12:26.07 | de-facto | TomTomTo1 thanks that worked :) |
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| 12:41.29 | bierdieb | hello there. maybe one may help me a bit: http://pastebin.com/16pDj0b3 |
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| 12:43.28 | bierdieb | ive installed a fresh windows on sda2. since im missing 2 partitions on the extended. everything else is working. debian on sda1 and windows are bootable by grub, but gparted shows empty space on the extended instead of the two missing partitions. is there a way to fix that? |
| 12:46.07 | Ticho | perhaps the new windows install pushed end of its partition a bit further, thus overwriting the start of the next one? |
| 12:46.18 | Ticho | anyway, it seems like you only had a swap partition on there, why not just recreate it? |
| 12:48.24 | bierdieb | äh, no there originally have been 3 partitions in the extended part: openelec, with lots of unrecoverable futures on two partitions and the linux swap. i really want to get this one fixed. |
| 12:49.22 | bierdieb | #i made a whole copy of sda before reinstalling win, but i dont have a clue how to write it back without destroying the actual sda2 |
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| 12:55.47 | bierdieb | http://pastebin.com/qqXLVN9R this was the original state |
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| 12:56.51 | bierdieb | is it possible to just rewrite the extended partition from the backup? |
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| 13:41.16 | tokamak | Hi, I want to uninstall Libre Office, but selecting the metapackage libreoffice for removal only affects that one package. How do I tell LO to take all its stuff and GTFO without selecting every single package that was installed in that dependency tree? |
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| 13:41.46 | Texou | tokamak: have you tried libreoffice-* |
| 13:41.48 | Texou | ? |
| 13:42.43 | tokamak | would that also remove all the helpers, libs etc. that don't have 'libreoffice' in their names? |
| 13:43.09 | Texou | tokamak: no, for this your next step will be autoremove |
| 13:43.36 | tokamak | and what does that do? |
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| 13:44.19 | Texou | tokamak: it removes all packages whih installed installed but without any other package depending on them |
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| 13:48.24 | tokamak | Does it really need to be this hard, when selecting that one metapackage installs everything and the kitchen sink? The mighty, decades-old Debian can't remove stuff the same way it installs them? Is this where we stand in 2017? I don't mean to troll but is there actually a valid technical reason for doing it this way? |
| 13:48.53 | somiaj | tokamak: that is exactly what autoremove does, it removes all the packages that were automatically brought in by the metapackage after it is removed |
| 13:49.06 | somiaj | tokamak: apt-get requires you do it as an extra step, aptitude does it in one step. I prefer apt-gets method myself |
| 13:49.43 | Texou | maybe report a bug to know what the maintainer packages the metpackage like this :) |
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| 13:49.51 | themill | tokamak: if you want to respect Recommends and Suggests relationships then there is no technical way of making this reversible |
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| 13:50.36 | somiaj | tokamak: I was going to add what themill said, the execption to this is if the additional packages are recommended or suggetsed by other manual packages they wont' get removed in the process. |
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| 13:51.23 | Texou | doing differently is dangerous :) |
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| 13:52.10 | petterw | Hi, I'm wondering what the mac images under http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/ are for, can't find any docs? |
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| 13:52.19 | Dreaman | why deboa is only distro not us full hd conf free radeon driver |
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| 13:52.25 | Dreaman | debian |
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| 13:53.29 | tokamak | OK, thanks for the advice, all |
| 13:53.59 | towo` | Dreaman, what? |
| 13:54.49 | Dreaman | free radeon driver not use my videocard 4830 |
| 13:54.58 | Tsutsukakushi | one improvement to the debian documentation could be to add a little notes that tell which packages contain certain tools |
| 13:55.00 | Dreaman | full hd resolution |
| 13:55.19 | Tsutsukakushi | like in the documentation for building packages it could say that debuild comes from devscripts |
| 13:56.00 | themill | .oO( people use debuild? ) |
| 13:57.00 | themill | Tsutsukakushi: more seriously, whatever "the documentation" is that you are referring to will either say "install build-essential and devscripts" or have a way of submitting bugs. (IRC is not useful for that) |
| 13:58.04 | somiaj | Dreaman: have you isntalled linux-firmware-nonfree (or firmware-linux-nonfree -- forget the name) |
| 13:58.21 | Dreaman | ok |
| 13:58.35 | Tsutsukakushi | themill: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkg_basics.en.html |
| 13:58.54 | Tsutsukakushi | at least this doesn't say that |
| 13:59.16 | Tsutsukakushi | themill: that's what the documentation says to use |
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| 14:00.03 | TomTomTosch | you are talking about 7.14? "We'll show how it's done using the devscripts tools. Install this package if you haven't done so already." says so in the first line. |
| 14:00.09 | Tsutsukakushi | themill: is there some better tool out there? |
| 14:01.04 | themill | §7.14: The preferred way to do this is by using various wrapper tools. We'll show how it's done using the devscripts tools. Install this package if you haven't done so already. |
| 14:01.41 | themill | as for better documentation, that rather depends on what you're trying to do |
| 14:02.25 | Tsutsukakushi | build a source package |
| 14:02.38 | themill | Do you mean build a binary package from a source package? |
| 14:02.51 | themill | (building a source package is a rather different thing) |
| 14:03.14 | Tsutsukakushi | build a binary package from a source |
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| 14:03.42 | themill | what is says to do there in §7.14 will work fine |
| 14:04.10 | themill | (I'd just use dpkg-buildpackage rather than debuild, but it makes no difference really) |
| 14:04.41 | towo` | Dreaman, install firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 14:04.49 | towo` | then it will work |
| 14:04.56 | tokamak | OK, I typed "apt-get remove libreoffice --auto-remove", and it removed only the metapackage. then I typed "apt-get autoremove", and it removed nothing. how do I do this right? |
| 14:04.58 | Dreaman | ok |
| 14:05.00 | Tsutsukakushi | <themill> .oO( people use debuild? ) |
| 14:05.05 | Tsutsukakushi | what did you mean by this? |
| 14:05.27 | Tsutsukakushi | sounds to me like you think that I should use something else |
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| 14:17.05 | dutchfish | Tsutsukakushi, its more easy to make mistakes with debuild then dpkg-buildpackage to my humble opinion. |
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| 14:17.22 | dutchfish | Tsutsukakushi, your mileage may differ .... |
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| 14:21.28 | jolt | tokamak: if you list the packages with libreoffice you will see that there is one called libreoffice-x-x-x something. Remove that (because the metapackage is only useful when installing) |
| 14:24.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
| 14:25.26 | Eryn_1983_FL | what is the apporiate way to manager the poweroff command for users? |
| 14:25.41 | Eryn_1983_FL | should i just modify the permissions on poweroff and systemctl to only allow root? |
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| 14:29.13 | dutchfish | Eryn_1983_FL, to handle shutdown privs, i would walk the the sudoers rights for the user you want to grant, on a desktop install this is difficult since you have to acomplish, halt, reboot, suspend and hibernate. |
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| 14:30.46 | dutchfish | Eryn_1983_FL, this is normally handled by dbus |
| 14:31.48 | dutchfish | Eryn_1983_FL, hint: delve into freedesktop.Consolekit and fredesktop.Upower |
| 14:32.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 14:32.49 | Eryn_1983_FL | mmmm |
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| 14:33.29 | dutchfish | Eryn_1983_FL, so something like an acces for sudoers to `sudo systemctl poweroff` |
| 14:33.50 | tokamak | Jolt, ty for the advice, meanwhile lacking a better option I took Texou's advice and first removed all packages matching "libreoffice-*", then did an autoremove, and that removed quite a few packages. But I'm wondering what if there was a package that didn't contain "libreoffice-" in its name but had been installed by the metapackage, and half the tree depended on it and didn't get removed? Is it an idiom in Debian package management that I can trust, that |
| 14:33.50 | tokamak | as long as I remove everything containing the metapackage name and then do an autoremove, the entire tree will be gone? |
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| 14:33.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 14:33.53 | dutchfish | Eryn_1983_FL, same for reboot |
| 14:34.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | well the problem is that i can do it as reg user on anybox.. |
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| 14:34.46 | Eryn_1983_FL | so ill just change the permissions and make it via root with sudo then |
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| 14:36.17 | dutchfish | Eryn_1983_FL, maybe, i think since i am a KDE users, its easy to break the system. |
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| 14:36.27 | dutchfish | s/users/user |
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| 14:36.46 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah i gave up on kde around 3.x |
| 14:36.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | and moved to xmonad, been a happy home for me, simple, |
| 14:37.10 | dutchfish | Eryn_1983_FL, on a headless machine with no X running you definitely want to work over sudoers rights |
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| 14:37.30 | Eryn_1983_FL | right |
| 14:37.33 | dutchfish | Eryn_1983_FL, gl |
| 14:37.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | brb |
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| 14:39.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | back |
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| 14:42.18 | dutchfish | Eryn_1983_FL, there is also polkit, not sure if that is of any help. |
| 14:42.54 | dutchfish | !polkit |
| 14:44.56 | dutchfish | Eryn_1983_FL, at least for mate and kde |
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| 14:52.39 | MaxLanar | Hi. I have to use pavucontrol and go to 'Configuration -> Internal Audio' and select 'Stéréo analogique Output' for that sink/output to become available/existing. When I first try to show it with 'pacmd list-sinks | grep -e 'name:' -e 'index'' it don't show up and then I (obviously) can't use 'pacmd set-default-sink alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1f.3.analog-stereo' for it to be the default output (I can do it after the pavucontrol |
| 14:52.39 | MaxLanar | manipulation, but it's not persistent). How can I make that output available from the terminal ? |
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| 14:55.20 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, not sure if that helps (depends on your WM too) https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio#Missing_playback_devices_or_audio_capture |
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| 14:56.47 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, (under the user account that has granted audio group rights) |
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| 14:58.43 | MaxLanar | dutchfish: just tried that, it don't works :( |
| 14:59.51 | MaxLanar | I use openbox, if it matters |
| 15:00.26 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio#Installing_PulseAudio |
| 15:02.11 | MaxLanar | dutchfish: I *have* pulseaudio of course |
| 15:02.36 | MaxLanar | and it works |
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| 15:05.00 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, yes, i assumed that, but it needs manual configuration on openbox, it is not supported out of the box on that WM, maybe this will help: check your ~./config/openbox/autostart & ~./config/tint2/tint2rc files |
| 15:05.09 | MaxLanar | The issue is I always must set the correct sink in pavucontrol to have sound (my other default output is not what I want to use). Until I do that pacmd can't see that (correct) sink neither the set-default-sink setting in default.pa useful |
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| 15:06.24 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, i got that, i had simular issues since i have 4 audio sink and 3 audio capture devices |
| 15:07.25 | MaxLanar | dutchfish: It's exactly what I'm trying to do, manually set up pulseaudio ! :) |
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| 15:08.12 | MaxLanar | I don't see why the autostart & tint2rc files are relevant here |
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| 15:08.56 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, i ended up with a completely different path, i routed everyhting through jack, including pulse and alsa plugs, but that is of no help to you. |
| 15:09.37 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, the later one needs to start your plug, example gnome-sound-applet & |
| 15:09.49 | dutchfish | (autostart file) |
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| 15:10.13 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, the default config is stored in the tint2rc file |
| 15:10.28 | dutchfish | Max even for an audio device! |
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| 15:11.28 | MaxLanar | I don't want to use a sound applet in a systray |
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| 15:11.46 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, its a long time ago i tried openbox, sorry for that. |
| 15:12.06 | MaxLanar | dutchfish: no problem, thanks for your help |
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| 15:12.39 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, but i know for sure you need that aplet, since that stores your config. |
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| 15:13.28 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, hope that helps a bit, sorry if i was unclear |
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| 15:24.43 | Quatroking | does cron generate new mail by default? |
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| 15:25.42 | dutchfish | Quatroking, no, but your local MTA might. |
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| 15:25.48 | Quatroking | MTA? |
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| 15:26.13 | MaxLanar | Quatroking: Mail Transfer Agent |
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| 15:26.26 | dutchfish | Quatroking, on a debian install messages are routed through exim for your root account, only local delivery. |
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| 15:26.52 | Quatroking | I see |
| 15:27.14 | dutchfish | Quatroking, which can be read with mutt as root user. |
| 15:27.14 | MaxLanar | dutchfish: I just upgraded pulseaudio from bpo and now the default sink is the one I want, out of the box ! :) |
| 15:27.31 | Quatroking | I run the duckdns script every 5 minutes and I just discovered that it creates a mail whenever it runs |
| 15:27.39 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, i we were banging our heads against a bug? |
| 15:27.40 | Quatroking | long story short I now have 12290 messages! |
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| 15:28.15 | dutchfish | Quatroking, ah ok |
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| 15:28.56 | dutchfish | Quatroking, is that a default config? |
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| 15:29.13 | Quatroking | well, that's what I'm hoping to find out, because I'm not finding it in the script |
| 15:29.22 | dutchfish | Quatroking, seams a bit excessive. |
| 15:29.58 | sypher | Quatroking: Might be helpful to know what these messages contain. |
| 15:30.02 | Quatroking | The script is this: echo url="https://www.duckdns.org/update?domains=exampledomain&token=a7c4d0ad-114e-40ef-ba1d-d217904a50f2&ip=" | curl -k -o ~/duckdns/duck.log -K - |
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| 15:30.40 | Quatroking | sypher, here you go: http://i.imgur.com/amuEb8l.png |
| 15:30.49 | dutchfish | sypher, true |
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| 15:31.15 | sypher | Quatroking: curl is generating output. When a process run via cron generates output that is not redirected to somewhere other than stdout, it's mailed to root. |
| 15:31.17 | soulspire | Good Day :) Trying to setup my wireless headset and mic with bluetooth, work fine on Acer Chromebook 14, but want to use it on my Debian "Jessie" with openbox system |
| 15:31.26 | Quatroking | ohhhhh |
| 15:31.39 | Quatroking | wait so it's not writing to the .log? |
| 15:31.58 | MaxLanar | dutchfish: I don't know, maybe it was. |
| 15:32.07 | sypher | Quatroking: It is, but curl generates output even though its saving the downloaded file to a log. |
| 15:32.10 | Quatroking | oh haha, the logfile only contains "OK" |
| 15:32.21 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, glad to hear its fixed now. |
| 15:32.25 | sypher | Quatroking: Add '-s' to the curl portion. |
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| 15:32.51 | sypher | Quatroking: That will suppress curl's normal output. |
| 15:33.01 | dutchfish | MaxLanar, maybe the reset | reboot cycle fixed it, i had that on many occasions. |
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| 15:33.22 | sypher | Quatroking: A better idea would be to write a proper script that doesn't rely on that sort of a kludge. |
| 15:33.29 | Quatroking | so it'd be "curl -k -o ~/duckdns/duck.log -K -s"? |
| 15:34.16 | Quatroking | I got the script off http://www.duckdns.org/install.jsp, I'm using the linux GUI one |
| 15:34.18 | sypher | Quatroking: As I said, kludge. The isolated '-' at the end of that line is significant and must be preserved. Add '-s' just after the curl command. |
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| 15:34.26 | Quatroking | got it |
| 15:34.31 | sypher | Quatroking: Don't really care where you got it, it's a terrible hack. |
| 15:34.40 | Quatroking | heh |
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| 15:35.21 | Quatroking | alright, now how do i delete all mails from my mailbox |
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| 15:35.57 | dutchfish | mumbles something about rsyslog instead of stuffing it into mail |
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| 15:36.28 | Quatroking | oh, d * did it |
| 15:36.29 | Quatroking | thanks |
| 15:37.01 | Quatroking | if all works fine now, I shouldn't be getting a new mail in 3 minutes or so |
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| 15:43.08 | soulspire | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:44.52 | Quatroking | no mail! |
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| 15:46.59 | Digital | can i have a shared /boot partition when multibooting debian 64bit and debian 32bit? |
| 15:48.13 | dutchfish | Digital, if multiarch is enabled on both, you could, but i dont think that is a good solution. |
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| 15:48.48 | dutchfish | Digital, think security and encryption |
| 15:49.18 | Digital | I'm not gonna use encryption on this disk |
| 15:49.29 | Digital | dutchfish, what's the security issue? |
| 15:49.58 | dutchfish | Digital, several, once one of the systems allow root, you are hosed |
| 15:50.06 | sypher | On a technical level, that shouldn't be done. Any updates to one OS will likely cause issues when attempting to boot the other. |
| 15:50.30 | dutchfish | sypher, also very true |
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| 15:50.44 | sypher | Well, I say any. Anything that would cause the grub configuration to be updated. |
| 15:51.01 | dutchfish | nods |
| 15:51.10 | Digital | what's the issue with that? |
| 15:51.44 | sypher | Because it will pick up every valid kernel/initrd combination and rewrite the grub configuration with the running OS's boot parameters. |
| 15:52.06 | CuSn | I want to merge 2 Dirs, A and B, latest file all in A. When I rsync -au B A , instead of putting the newest version of files into A, it copies B into A. |
| 15:52.21 | sypher | In essence, every grub boot entry would be rewritten to only point to one OS - whichever one was running when grub config was regenerated. |
| 15:52.28 | CuSn | Is there a way to do what i wanted (sync only the files) |
| 15:52.56 | sypher | Digital: Anyway, you've been given your answer. Don't do that, and if you do, it will break, and when it breaks, you get to keep the pieces. I doubt you'd find much support here for such a configuration. |
| 15:53.05 | jelly | rsync has a zillion options |
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| 15:53.20 | Digital | sypher, dutchfish okay, thanks |
| 15:53.22 | sypher | Digital: So, now, the question I probably shouldn't ask: Why would you even consider such a configuration? |
| 15:53.52 | jelly | CuSn: --update being one of them |
| 15:54.10 | Digital | heh, i should have asked that question first. it's interesting how i get focused on a solution |
| 15:54.15 | CuSn | jelly: sure does. and i used -u (which is update) |
| 15:55.00 | jelly | CuSn: if you want to clone the contents instead of the whole directly, make sure the source ends with a / |
| 15:55.07 | jelly | directory* |
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| 15:55.29 | CuSn | so i should use rsync -au B/ A ? |
| 15:55.52 | jelly | probably add -n to see what it does before it does it |
| 15:56.20 | v0lk | Hi all, I cant find an answer online - if I'm copying a file from a local dir to an external HD how do I check that its actually copying / doing the command? |
| 15:56.28 | CuSn | jelly: Gracis. |
| 15:56.48 | CuSn | jelly: and tested - works perfektly :-) |
| 15:57.03 | v0lk | using ls shows nothing in the folder I'm copying it to |
| 15:57.31 | CuSn | v0lk: whats is the copy command? |
| 15:57.38 | jelly | v0lk: copying how precisely? ls with what options? |
| 15:57.39 | jelly | !ask |
| 15:57.39 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 15:57.44 | jelly | !paste |
| 15:57.44 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 15:58.34 | v0lk | jelly / cusin, I've been using cp (file to copy) (file destination) as sudo |
| 15:59.02 | v0lk | trying to copy the whole user profile from home, but as sudo it should copy regardless of permissions |
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| 15:59.48 | jelly | show the actual, complete command lines and their full output, v0lk |
| 15:59.49 | sypher | I believe the question was intended to mean "exactly what command are you entering?" |
| 16:00.22 | v0lk | cp /home/terry /media/usb/backup |
| 16:00.50 | v0lk | I've mounted the drive using mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb |
| 16:00.55 | jelly | cp doesn't recurse and copy contents, unless it's told to |
| 16:00.57 | v0lk | I've mounted the drive using [ mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb |
| 16:01.59 | jelly | v0lk: add -a option, it's a shortcut for recursion, ownership and permission copying |
| 16:02.07 | Digital | sypher, I want to make a bootable rescue boot stick for both 32 and 64 bit architecture. I don't want to update two /boot folders when i change a grub config file... dunno it seems weired |
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| 16:02.11 | v0lk | I tried using cp -i and cp -b for backup but no change |
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| 16:02.27 | sypher | Digital: Any reason why existing rescue disks aren't sufficient? |
| 16:02.45 | v0lk | jelly, you are the man! |
| 16:03.06 | v0lk | its copying now, thank you so much for your help! |
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| 16:04.19 | jelly | v0lk: often commands have a --help or -help or -h parameter to get short help. |
| 16:04.33 | jelly | other times, "man cp" |
| 16:04.55 | Digital | sypher, i don't know any rescue systems, i know debian and i don't want to spend a lot of time trying out different rescue systems |
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| 16:06.17 | sypher | Digital: The correct answer here is to learn one, rather than trying to build your own. There are many out there. |
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| 16:07.47 | v0lk | jelly: Yea I had a quick look there (I'm a fairly new user, had a brainfart) |
| 16:07.59 | sypher | Digital: Check out Finnix for an example. |
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| 16:10.03 | noob | hello |
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| 16:10.46 | noob | so I want to join the next google summer of code, and contribute to the Debian project |
| 16:10.57 | Digital | sypher, i also want to use it as a normal os in special cases |
| 16:11.13 | noob | I have taken c and java courses at university |
| 16:11.24 | missmbob | noob: wrong place. try #debian-mentors on oftc |
| 16:11.27 | noob | i am in my second year of University CS |
| 16:11.28 | sypher | Digital: Finnix has that capability, I believe. However, end result is that you trying to build a multiarch rescue disk on your own isn't a good idea. |
| 16:11.29 | jelly | !gsoc |
| 16:11.29 | dpkg | [SoC] System-on-a-chip, or Summer of Code, a mentoring program created by Google, see http://code.google.com/soc and http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode . #gsoc on irc.freenode.net, #debian-soc on irc.oftc.net. |
| 16:11.41 | noob | ok thanks |
| 16:12.23 | noob | #quit |
| 16:13.24 | Digital | sypher, "[Finnix] does not include any desktops, productivity tools, or sound support" it doesn't have that capability |
| 16:13.46 | sypher | Digital: Then you should have specified what you meant by "normal OS." |
| 16:14.30 | sypher | Digital: You're looking for a bootable multilib USB distribution that supports persistence. Have fun. |
| 16:15.19 | jelly | rescue images typically focus on, well, rescue, recovery and forensics, even if you can fire up X and a web browser |
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| 16:15.56 | sypher | jelly: I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that that latter functionality was what was needed, as one doesn't typically use something they label a "rescue" boot as a productivity OS. |
| 16:16.50 | jelly | grml.org has X and firefox but I wouldn't use it for daily work unless that work is making other installations work again :-) |
| 16:17.19 | jelly | (or hardware migration and upgrades or similar) |
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| 16:19.28 | n4dir | if i am not wrong the last release of grml is very long ago (not per se a bad thing). It uses zsh as the shell, which as far it's me isn't much fun for a rescue CD |
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| 16:22.06 | bla | Do you know of any directory two-way real-time sync over SSH? |
| 16:22.15 | Digital | sypher, jelly I'm looking for a portable debian installation, which i can use when my main system doesn't work anymore or when i go somewhere and they allow to boot from a stick |
| 16:22.18 | bla | Dropbox/owncloud without fancy protocols in fact. |
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| 16:23.51 | Digital | rescue was the wrong word, sorry. english isn't my mother language (which is, next to being tiered, the reason why I'm typing so incredibly slow) |
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| 16:29.47 | n4dir | bla sparkleshare ? though it is a backend for git. else i would probably go for something like sshfs |
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| 16:30.07 | n4dir | not that i would be much in the subject. |
| 16:30.29 | bla | I will see the first one; |
| 16:30.38 | bla | second doesn't really sync anything and won't work offline. |
| 16:30.56 | n4dir | sure sshfs mounts sync |
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| 16:38.19 | jelly | sshfs is just to mount a remote directory, it doesn't sync anything on its own |
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| 16:43.41 | n4dir | as far it's me: if i mount a remote from PC1 and edit a file or add a file, and then i sshfs mount a remote from PC2, then sure enough both are in sync |
| 16:44.41 | n4dir | and sure enough that is more "on it's own" than something like git |
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| 16:45.58 | n4dir | or rsync, etc. |
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| 16:49.31 | n4dir | tahoe-lafs might be interesting for such problems. |
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| 16:53.19 | transhuman | hi on a custom build of nginx I get checking for md5 in system md (also md5) library ... not found whats missing...this is debian |
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| 16:59.45 | abrotman | transhuman: you mean trying to compile nginx? |
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| 17:02.15 | jscoder | can anyone suggest a program that I can use to very simply rearrange frames of a video? I want to work with the frames as images not the video itself. |
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| 17:03.40 | jscoder | basically I got a bunch of image files sequentially named and I want to rearrange and rename them graphically |
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| 17:04.28 | bananabas | What's the simplest way of installing Debian âstretchâ as a virtual image under Gnome Boxes in Fedora? |
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| 17:05.24 | jscoder | I suppose that depends on what the hell a gnome boxes is |
| 17:05.29 | bananabas | ie, is there an iso that I can just download, or do I have to first install stable, then upgrade? |
| 17:05.40 | abrotman | yes, there's an RC2 ISO |
| 17:05.45 | bananabas | gnome boxes is a virtual image manager, like virtualbox |
| 17:05.46 | abrotman | debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 17:06.10 | transhuman | hi abrotman yes. trying to compile nginx. apparently there is a built in one for the purpose so I can ignore it |
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| 17:06.42 | bananabas | should i use netinst? |
| 17:06.45 | transhuman | abrotman, thanks for your response though |
| 17:06.56 | bananabas | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/stretch_di_rc2/amd64/iso-cd/debian-stretch-DI-rc2-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 17:07.18 | RoyK | bananabas: virtualbox is a hypervisor, not a virtual image manager - I guess gnome boxes is something like virt-manager? |
| 17:07.20 | abrotman | transhuman: ah okay |
| 17:07.46 | jscoder | yeah I was off reading about it on wikipedia. I'd suggest using virtualbox personally this thing sounds new and sketchy |
| 17:08.06 | bananabas | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Boxes |
| 17:09.05 | bananabas | there is also virt-manager and virtualbox, yes |
| 17:09.06 | RoyK | bananabas: yeah, but virtualbox is a wee bit more than just a manager - it's the whole stack ;) |
| 17:09.20 | bananabas | i see :) |
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| 17:09.47 | bananabas | well, i'm not keen on using G Boxes, it's just what came preinstalled on fedora, and i used it succesfully with an Ubuntu image before |
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| 17:10.07 | jscoder | yes virtualbox does it all and its well tested and supported, this gnome boxes thing seems like reinventing the wheel for no good reason |
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| 17:10.20 | bananabas | :) |
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| 17:10.56 | bananabas | ok so i install virtualbox, and get the RC2 netinst iso and i'm set to go, right? |
| 17:11.06 | RoyK | jscoder: erm - I guess gnome boxes works with kvm and perhaps other stacks - kvm is good and is in kernel already |
| 17:11.21 | RoyK | virtualbox is the thing reinventing the wheel here |
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| 17:11.58 | jscoder | touche |
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| 17:13.44 | RoyK | tests gnome boxes |
| 17:13.55 | bananabas | :D |
| 17:14.11 | bananabas | it's minimalistic |
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| 17:27.58 | efloid | how can i display which repo intalled packages are from? |
| 17:28.38 | missmbob | !which repo |
| 17:28.38 | dpkg | To see what repository a package may have come from, try https://www.palfrader.org/gitweb/?p=tools/weaselutils.git;a=blob_plain;f=apt-listrepository or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory, or <bdo list>, or <dmm list> |
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| 17:32.50 | RoyK | bananabas: reading here - https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Boxes - and also after initial testing, I guess I'll stick to virt-manager (with kvm) for now |
| 17:33.29 | bananabas | RoyK: because boxes is too young? |
| 17:34.02 | efloid | that command is good but i don't need to see the URL of the repo for each package |
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| 17:34.36 | RoyK | bananabas: afaics I get far more control with virt-manager - it's not that flashy and "userfriendly", but hell, it's good enough |
| 17:34.52 | bananabas | sure |
| 17:34.53 | efloid | guess i can just use cut to select fields. np |
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| 17:42.17 | bananabas | i'm doing the install and want to configure the clock to UTC in the timezone section, where can i find that? |
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| 17:43.10 | jelly | Etc/UTC ? |
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| 17:48.50 | RoyK | bananabas: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 17:49.04 | RoyK | oh - during install... |
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| 17:50.40 | bananabas | yup |
| 17:51.47 | RoyK | as jelly said |
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| 17:52.42 | bananabas | Tnx guys, copying files, almost done now |
| 17:54.26 | bananabas | RoyK: what would you use for virtualization on a windows box? |
| 17:54.31 | bananabas | win10 |
| 17:55.57 | RoyK | I don't do much desktop virtualisation - the little I've done has been with virtualbox and vmware workstation. I guess gnome boxes can do that better than virt-manager, though |
| 17:56.26 | missmbob | he said win10 :P |
| 17:56.33 | bananabas | yup |
| 17:56.44 | bananabas | (my brother uses it :) |
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| 17:59.04 | Rust3dCor3 | my guinea pig chew on my laptop adapter cable screen. the screen is only the part that was chew on. should i worry and buy another cable or just say screw it up and use it anyway. the battery is charging well though |
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| 18:00.58 | bananabas | is debian going to use wayland or that ubuntu thing, what's it called |
| 18:01.06 | bananabas | mir, was it? |
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| 18:01.24 | jelly | it's unlikely anyone other than Canonical is going with Mir |
| 18:01.49 | irc2000 | jelly: 1: are you a jellyfish? 2: what is Mir? |
| 18:02.02 | jelly | !slap irc2000 |
| 18:02.03 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across irc2000's face |
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| 18:03.16 | bananabas | jelly: it's unlikely that even they will use it |
| 18:03.22 | jelly | irc2000: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir |
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| 18:10.06 | AlexPortable | genisoimage -o test.iso -b /var/tmp/linux/isolinux/isolinux.cfg -c /var/tmp/linux/isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -J -R -V disks . |
| 18:10.06 | AlexPortable | genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory '/var/tmp/linux/isolinux'! |
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| 18:13.15 | jaami | used rufus to make usb bootable for debian 8.7.1-amd64-dvd-1.iso but when i boot system from usb it crash. is it the image i got not right or rufus is not good? |
| 18:13.49 | TomTomTosch | !rufus |
| 18:13.49 | dpkg | rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 18:14.16 | petn-randall | !win32diskimager |
| 18:14.17 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
| 18:14.26 | petn-randall | jaami: Use this one above ^^^ |
| 18:14.33 | jaami | dpkg usb install |
| 18:14.34 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
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| 18:15.41 | TomTomTosch | using cp to copy the image to the usb device is the prefered way if you already are on a linux system. |
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| 18:17.03 | unborn | jaami: this one works for me always https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb |
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| 18:17.57 | unborn | jaami: dd if=debian.iso of=/path/to/usb bs=100M; sync |
| 18:18.02 | unborn | nice and clean, no issues |
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| 18:18.07 | jaami | TomTomTosch i use win7 to make the usb bootable with rufus. my previous linux usb isnt booting system because yesterday i got my laptop's motherboard replaced. i dont know why change of motherboard is the reason my same usb and same system isnt compatible |
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| 18:19.03 | jaami | unborn is there dd version for windows? can you look for the link? |
| 18:19.11 | jelly | !win32diskimager |
| 18:19.11 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
| 18:19.21 | jelly | jaami: ^^ |
| 18:19.48 | unborn | i use dd for converting existing windows install on real machines to img and then img to vdi - so it can be used in virtualbox (confirmed and working) |
| 18:20.16 | unborn | jaami: uhm windows.. how about win32diskimager |
| 18:20.21 | n3wborn | unborn: good thing to know |
| 18:20.32 | unborn | jaami: https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ |
| 18:20.42 | jelly | third time's the charm |
| 18:20.43 | AlexPortable | anyone can help me iwth genisoimage |
| 18:21.11 | jaami | i checked unetbootin and rufus, now need to check win32diskimager as jelly told me. i cannot use dd if only linux version is available |
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| 18:21.38 | unborn | n3wborn: didnt try yet xos but done many windows and linux reall hdd to virtualbox or other virutal instances.. it just works |
| 18:22.00 | jaami | unborn thanks for the link. |
| 18:22.03 | n3wborn | unborn: Cool ! (and I didn't say that to see our nicks side by side ^^) |
| 18:22.04 | unborn | jaami: dont use unetbootin, it could lead to some anomalies in install |
| 18:22.38 | n3wborn | I don't understand why unetbootin may works or not sometimes. |
| 18:22.55 | n3wborn | unetbootin or other softs |
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| 18:23.02 | jaami | unborn i wont use unetbootin, have to try the link you gave |
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| 18:23.18 | n3wborn | is it bad coded or something ? |
| 18:23.34 | unborn | jaami: that link is mentioned original on that debian page I gave you earlier |
| 18:23.40 | n3wborn | (sorry if offtopic) |
| 18:23.42 | jelly | unetbootin, rufus and some others mangle the contents of images in ways debian-installer does not expect them to |
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| 18:24.18 | n3wborn | jelly: ok |
| 18:24.49 | unborn | jaami: perhaps you can use virtualbox install in your windows with debian on it and then use dd command for creating usbs ;) |
| 18:24.58 | jaami | jelly that must be true, because rufus tricked me into connecting to internet for lame reason of missing syslinux ... i was confused about that |
| 18:25.06 | unborn | or use that win32... whatever is easier for you |
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| 18:25.39 | n3wborn | I thought there is just one good way to copy images, but in fact I may be wrong |
| 18:25.55 | jaami | unborn i want to boot system on debian and then i will use virtualbox for windows. i dont want to boot my system into windows |
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| 18:26.51 | unborn | n3wborn: cp or dd those works best for me but dd is much more versatile as you can create disk images from anything even physical installs.. basically cloning hdds.. |
| 18:27.03 | jaami | i like debian because its more secure than redhat i used previously for 3 years |
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| 18:28.15 | jelly | a patched-up debian and a patched-up redhat shouldn't differ much in security vulnerability |
| 18:28.54 | unborn | jaami: yah, that what I've just last night for my client, she wanted to switch to linux but need it to keep outlook as that is what she must use for work.. basically I converted her windows hdd to img with dd and then that img to vdi, install debian, virtualbox, import vdi into new virtuabox machine and done. tested and working. |
| 18:29.00 | n3wborn | unborn: If i have to make live usb to try a distro or install I always use dd, just had troubles doing the same thing to install windows the same way (making a windows usb key) |
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| 18:29.15 | n3wborn | dd rules, for sure |
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| 18:30.21 | missmbob | making windows usbs you need to use something like winusb |
| 18:30.25 | jaami | unborn that is very nice trick. i will try that in future |
| 18:30.32 | unborn | n3wborn: for dd windows iso - to usb, you should mark usb key as boot (in gparted for example) before dd-ing.. you can create windows bootable usb within windows os and cmd.. thats just normal |
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| 18:31.22 | unborn | all you need is iso file |
| 18:31.24 | gdarko | hello guys |
| 18:31.36 | n3wborn | unborn: I always use fdisk to do that, maybe I did something else wrong... |
| 18:32.01 | gdarko | i tried to install debian but i need the server version without desktop environment. Where can i find it? When i try to search "ubuntu server" i can download the one but what about debian server? |
| 18:32.18 | jelly | gdarko: it's the same image. |
| 18:32.27 | gdarko | ???? |
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| 18:32.32 | gdarko | how it is possible |
| 18:32.42 | jelly | just deselect desktop environment when you come to that point in the installer |
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| 18:33.20 | unborn | n3wborn: i do fdisk -l but I guess that depends whatever preferences you have |
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| 18:33.55 | la_mettrie | is there any handy textmode ftp-client? recommendations? |
| 18:34.03 | jelly | lftp |
| 18:34.21 | unborn | gdarko: use netinstall and when you come to the part to select what to install, just select ssh and system.. then you can install server bits one by one |
| 18:35.02 | unborn | la_mettrie: perhaps I am wrong.. mc ? |
| 18:35.30 | gdarko | thanks guys |
| 18:35.40 | gdarko | difference between netinstall and full cd? |
| 18:35.44 | unborn | gdarko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50z75G4M5KA&t=21s |
| 18:36.06 | jelly | gdarko: the only difference is in what's available for an offline installation |
| 18:36.06 | efloid | missmbob: check out this variation: dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9.-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}' |sed 's/\s\s*/ /g' |awk '{printf "%-25s %-25s %-25s\n", $1, $2, $4}' |
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| 18:36.21 | unborn | this would give you some idea.. i made that video on ubuntu gdarko but process is same even from windows os |
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| 18:37.01 | unborn | also being on virtualbox or on real server |
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| 18:37.25 | n3wborn | unborn: yes, but 'fdisk -l' only list partitions (to see if it's bootable) but doesn't change anything. By using fdisk I mean 'fdisk /dev/sda' for example, and type commands needed ('a' to make the partition as 'active' if I remember) |
| 18:37.37 | jelly | gdarko: so use netinst if you have a (wired) internet connection available at installation time |
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| 18:38.08 | unborn | n3wborn: that is indeed what I just need to see.. as I said it depends on everyones personal taste ;) |
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| 18:38.41 | n3wborn | unborn: absolutely ! |
| 18:39.07 | AlexPortable | genisoimage -o test.iso -b /var/tmp/linux/isolinux/isolinux.cfg -c /var/tmp/linux/isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -J -R -V disks . |
| 18:39.07 | AlexPortable | genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory '/var/tmp/linux/isolinux'! |
| 18:39.37 | missmbob | efloid: nice |
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| 18:40.52 | hey | Hi guys. Is it possible to install Debian without burning it onto something like an usb or cd ? |
| 18:41.16 | Guest68636 | my PC doesn't let me boot from an usb and I have no empty CD's left |
| 18:41.40 | towo` | that must be a really old pc |
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| 18:41.57 | Guest68636 | actually , its just 2 years old |
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| 18:42.08 | towo` | then it should boot from usb |
| 18:42.12 | Guest68636 | I'm not sure why it wont let me do that |
| 18:42.28 | Guest68636 | there is the option to boot from USB-HDD , USB-ZIP etc. |
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| 18:42.42 | Guest68636 | but it won't boot from it then |
| 18:42.55 | hmuller | what creates the /etc/passwd and /etc/group files? |
| 18:43.16 | unborn | Guest68636: check that option in bios.. also check if you can use legacy instead of uefi boot options |
| 18:43.42 | Guest68636 | I downloaded the netinstall iso. There is an setup.exe file within that iso. Does that work ? |
| 18:44.11 | Guest68636 | okay. I'll try that then |
| 18:45.24 | unborn | Guest68636: if boot from external hdd, fdd or anything is enabled then you must let computer before it boots up know that you want to select the device..by pressing some keys what computer is that? |
| 18:45.55 | unborn | Guest68636: usually is f12 or esc key but some old hps have f9.. |
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| 18:49.58 | AlexPortable | genisoimage -o test.iso -b /var/tmp/linux/isolinux/isolinux.cfg -c /var/tmp/linux/isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -J -R -V disks . |
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| 18:57.35 | jaami | win32diskimager was used but now when system boot from usb it send me to grub prompt. what is missing to make debian usb? |
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| 18:59.53 | jaami | i think i am missing some important steps, can someone tell me the easiest way to make debian bootable usb? |
| 19:01.12 | jaami | i use windows. sorry have no other choice at this time. win7 on 64bkt system. used rufus, unetbootin and win32diskimager but none of those worked. look oike the dvd iso is not right. |
| 19:01.42 | jaami | i remember many years ago when i wanted tominstall debian it took me 3 days. |
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| 19:02.00 | jaami | the real reason was t |
| 19:02.42 | jaami | the real problem was that i used windows at that time. and finally i had to use dd on linux. |
| 19:03.38 | jaami | i remeber the last person who helped me was 'jeem' and i guess he was from uk. hahahah... old memories |
| 19:03.48 | jaami | sorry, Jeep |
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| 19:04.09 | jaami | damn, got stuck again |
| 19:04.52 | jaami | and really, someone told me tomuse wget instead of other download managers |
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| 19:05.27 | jaami | is it still true that only dd will work for me? |
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| 19:06.23 | jaami | debian and dd is the last and the only option to get debian bootted from usb? |
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| 19:07.44 | unborn | jaami: maybe that iso is corrupted? somewhere somehow while it was downloaded.. perhaps try to re-download it? |
| 19:07.45 | towo` | win32disk imager does work like a charm |
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| 19:07.59 | towo` | it sounds like corrupt download |
| 19:08.08 | towo` | i would check the md5sum |
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| 19:09.02 | jaami | got disconnected from freenode |
| 19:09.10 | edderf | jaami: take a look to rufus too |
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| 19:09.21 | jelly | edderf: no, rufus makes a mess as well |
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| 19:10.14 | jaami | edderf i did try to use rufus, and it was my first try. it dis not work. i dont know why. i thought rufus was the best. but someone told me rufus for debian is not good idea |
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| 19:11.05 | jaami | jelly , the win32diskimager shows me grub prompt |
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| 19:11.43 | jaami | jelly btw, win32diskimager does not accept iso by default |
| 19:11.56 | edderf | cygwin and dd :) |
| 19:12.07 | jelly | jaami: yes, that is mentioned in the factoid you read |
| 19:12.13 | towo` | it exist dd for windows |
| 19:12.27 | AlexPortable | genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory '/var/tmp/linux/isolinux'! |
| 19:12.28 | jaami | dd for windows |
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| 19:13.12 | teraflops | edderf: there's no need of cygwin at all, there's already a dd binary for windows, but win32diskimager works perfectly |
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| 19:13.39 | jaami | why it did not work for me |
| 19:13.47 | towo` | check the md5sum |
| 19:13.51 | teraflops | jaami: win32diskimager works for all of us ^ |
| 19:13.59 | towo` | the download is propably damaged |
| 19:14.02 | jaami | hmm, strange |
| 19:14.10 | unborn | jaami: maybe that iso is corrupted? somewhere somehow while it was downloaded.. perhaps try to re-download it? |
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| 19:14.20 | AlexPortable | Anyone? |
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| 19:14.27 | jaami | unborn , that see |
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| 19:14.44 | jaami | that i think is the reason, have to download iso again |
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| 19:14.48 | missmbob | jaami: dont use dd for windows. it's not the same. it does break stuff |
| 19:15.15 | jaami | missmbob thanks, i will not use dd for windows. |
| 19:15.28 | jaami | i did not know, thanks |
| 19:15.38 | awal1 | Why leafpad won't copy # symbol? |
| 19:16.02 | awal1 | no copy option in pop-up window (right clic) |
| 19:16.22 | awal1 | gedit does |
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| 19:17.39 | awal1 | mousepad also does |
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| 19:39.11 | petterw | still wondering what the difference between the "mac" testing netinst iso and the normal amd64 is, if anyone knows |
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| 19:49.15 | helphelp | anyone here think they can help me with an issue trying to recover files off an encrypted drive |
| 19:49.30 | helphelp | i have btc handy for a generous tip if I can get this to work |
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| 19:49.48 | helphelp | spent a day on this already and want to know if my drive is dead or not at least |
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| 19:51.03 | dontknow | helphelp, you can access encrypted drive's content? |
| 19:51.29 | dontknow | or it is not mounted |
| 19:51.31 | eb0t | hey is the testing version called stretch |
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| 19:51.33 | helphelp | dontknow: I can see my user's folder, and after that all I get it: ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly |
| 19:51.38 | Vizva | <helphelp> you can open it luksopen? |
| 19:51.58 | eb0t | if anyone is running stretch what are any issues that i should expect to encounter |
| 19:52.03 | helphelp | vizva: I get prompted to enter my encrypted drives password upon bootup on a liveusb |
| 19:52.08 | missmbob | eb0t: yes |
| 19:52.19 | missmbob | !tell eb0t about debian-next |
| 19:52.22 | helphelp | Vizva: I am running linux mint, but I have debian open, using 2 computer right now |
| 19:52.25 | Vizva | i will never get a device for help you |
| 19:52.47 | helphelp | Vizva: i have the harddrive in question connected via usb to sata connection |
| 19:53.30 | Vizva | photorec |
| 19:53.38 | Vizva | you could use this tool on it |
| 19:53.44 | helphelp | dontknow: As I was saying, I was able to enter my encrypted drive password, but then the only 2 files inside the encrypted user's folder are: Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop README.txt |
| 19:53.45 | AlexPortable | genisoimage -o test.iso -b /var/tmp/linux/isolinux/isolinux.cfg -c /var/tmp/linux/isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -J -R -V disks . |
| 19:53.45 | AlexPortable | genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory '/var/tmp/linux/isolinux'! |
| 19:53.54 | Vizva | thats all- only care about files on it |
| 19:54.00 | siiky | i was updating my pc right now and got the `Sector 32 is already in use by the program `FlexNet'; avoiding it.` error. After googling a bit it seems to be related to windows, but Debian is the only OS installed right now. Is there a reason to worry? |
| 19:54.04 | zykotick9 | would be surprised if photorec can do anything with encrypted partitions/folders... |
| 19:54.15 | siiky | s/error/warning/ |
| 19:54.16 | helphelp | Vizva: are you suggesting I use photorec? |
| 19:54.22 | Vizva | zykotick9 if you luksopen it yes |
| 19:54.41 | helphelp | Vizva: at this point, I only really care about the files |
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| 19:54.47 | zykotick9 | Vizva: ok?!?! |
| 19:54.55 | missmbob | AlexPortable: have you tried ##linux ? |
| 19:55.16 | helphelp | Vizva: if you can suggest how to use photorec and guide me through, I can give it a shot on debian |
| 19:55.23 | Vizva | helphelp you want to bring back a system to live? |
| 19:55.39 | Vizva | no i will not |
| 19:55.43 | Vizva | sorry :) |
| 19:55.48 | Vizva | there are good howtos |
| 19:55.50 | helphelp | Vizva: at this point I'll just take the files off and start from scratch, as I don't care about booting |
| 19:55.55 | Vizva | its only a suggestion |
| 19:56.12 | Vizva | yes take the files and start fron scratch |
| 19:56.24 | Vizva | and on my opinion dont offer a device for help |
| 19:56.28 | helphelp | Vizva: no worries, I will look up photorec, and judging by what I said, even if I can't see the files inside my user foler, but can unecrypt the drive, I should be able to do it? |
| 19:56.40 | Vizva | we help for help like your nick help and not to get anything |
| 19:56.45 | dontknow | but you are saying you see only two files. it is not the real content of drive |
| 19:56.58 | AlexPortable | missmbob: no, will do |
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| 19:57.09 | helphelp | dontknow: yes I only see those 2 files, and I'm not sure if the paritition is corrupted |
| 19:57.36 | Vizva | <helphelp> photorec can search for the files on it, if theyre important , there is a goal |
| 19:57.47 | Vizva | but first luksopen it |
| 19:58.16 | helphelp | Vizva: okay is luksopen a default on debian |
| 19:58.24 | helphelp | Vizva: or should I apt-get it |
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| 19:59.14 | Vizva | i think yes |
| 19:59.26 | Vizva | there is another porgram where photorec is under |
| 19:59.33 | Vizva | testdisk maybe |
| 19:59.46 | dontknow | helphelp, have you tried with another live distro? |
| 20:00.08 | helphelp | dontknow: No I haven't, but I got an issue when trying to open the drive on debian |
| 20:00.22 | helphelp | dontknow: let me pop it in there and give you the exact error |
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| 20:02.06 | helphelp | dontknow: pastebin.com/vHMjEurT |
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| 20:02.36 | helphelp | Vizva: this is my output when trying to unlock it on debian - pastebin.com/vHMjEurT |
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| 20:03.00 | pepp | ciao |
| 20:03.05 | pepp | !list |
| 20:03.05 | dpkg | pepp: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 20:03.11 | dontknow | helphelp, i can't enter that site because of censor right now. could you paste there |
| 20:03.22 | dontknow | http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 20:03.43 | Vizva | helphelp |
| 20:03.46 | pepp | https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
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| 20:04.00 | Vizva | https://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-encrypt-your-fedora-file-system/ |
| 20:04.10 | helphelp | dontknow: An error occurred while accessing '232.4 GiB Encrypted Drive', the system responded: An unspecified error has occurred: No such interface 'org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Filesystem' on object at path /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/dm_2d4 |
| 20:04.19 | pepp | http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 20:04.39 | helphelp | http://paste.debian.net/912938/ |
| 20:04.42 | helphelp | Vizva: http://paste.debian.net/912938/ |
| 20:04.45 | helphelp | dontknow: http://paste.debian.net/912938/ |
| 20:05.31 | Vizva | helphelp Christophe GRENIER said there |
| 20:05.45 | Vizva | PhotoRec (testdisk package or qphotorec for the GUI) can recover lost files from an unlocked encrypted LUKS filesystem. Instead of selecting the LUKS partition (ie. /dev/sda2), select the unlocked device (ie. /dev/mapper/home) |
| 20:06.04 | helphelp | Vizva: okay I will download that and try it out |
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| 20:06.27 | dontknow | Vizva, but helphelp can't open encrypted drive |
| 20:06.50 | helphelp | dontknow: it's weird I can see inside of it on my Linux mint liveusb |
| 20:07.04 | helphelp | dontknow: but my user's folder only has those 2 files |
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| 20:07.17 | Vizva | dontknow ok i read it |
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| 20:08.50 | Vizva | <helphelp> you have important files inside? |
| 20:09.04 | helphelp | Vizva: I have a backup from 2 months ago, but I will be losing some files |
| 20:09.23 | helphelp | Vizva: somewhat important files that would save me a lot of time if I was able to recover some |
| 20:09.33 | Vizva | if not important start new and use another install scheme this time |
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| 20:10.42 | Vizva | https://www.google.de/search?q=An+error+occurred+while+accessing+the+system+responded:+An+unspecified+error+has+occurred:+No+such+interface+%27org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Filesystem%27+on+object+at+path&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=m4aXWLnxIMXE6ATunKboDQ |
| 20:11.05 | Vizva | <helphelp> read any page there and maybe you could find a help for it |
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| 20:11.48 | Vizva | or youcan use google.com instead |
| 20:14.02 | helphelp | Vizva: I'm looking into what you provided so Ill see what I can work out |
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| 20:15.56 | lord_daemon | Does anyone know any free ddns? |
| 20:16.29 | AlexPortable | genisoimage -o test.iso -b /var/tmp/linux/isolinux/isolinux.cfg -c /var/tmp/linux/isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -J -R -V disks . |
| 20:16.29 | AlexPortable | genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory '/var/tmp/linux/isolinux'! |
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| 20:18.35 | dontknow | helphelp, did you try with "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdx whatever" "mount /dev/mapper/whatever /mnt" and look at /mnt |
| 20:19.36 | helphelp | dontknow: I will try that right now |
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| 20:19.53 | hmuller | the base-passwd package maintains the master password and group files, but how are they initially installed onto the system? i.e. how do /etc/(passwd|group) get there? |
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| 20:20.41 | helphelp | dontknow: ill brb gonna restart my computer |
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| 20:26.46 | mint | dontknow: this is me helphelp |
| 20:27.03 | dontknow | mint, did you tried |
| 20:27.20 | mint | dontknow: can you repaste that last message you sent me |
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| 20:27.39 | dontknow | did you try with "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdx whatever" "mount /dev/mapper/whatever /mnt" and look at /mnt |
| 20:27.53 | dontknow | x is hhd's letter |
| 20:28.19 | mint | dontknow: okay give me a min let me give it a shot |
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| 20:31.41 | mint | dontknow: it shows it as sdb1, however when I just use : sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb1 |
| 20:31.52 | mint | dontknow: I get Device /dev/sdb1 is not a valid LUKS device. |
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| 20:33.36 | mint | dontknow: wrong partition trying again |
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| 20:37.20 | dontknow | use exactly this command (except x) "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdx whatever" you should enter "whatever" too |
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| 20:38.33 | mint | dontknow: mint@mint ~ $ mount /dev/mapper/luks-e571b1d5-05c6-48ac-88c1-da41e03db7c4 |
| 20:38.33 | mint | mount: can't find /dev/mapper/luks-e571b1d5-05c6-48ac-88c1-da41e03db7c4 in /etc/fstab |
| 20:39.28 | dontknow | mint, "mount /dev/mapper/luks-e571b1d5-05c6-48ac-88c1-da41e03db7c4 /mnt" |
| 20:40.01 | mint | dontknow: mint@mint ~ $ sudo mount /dev/mapper/luks-e571b1d5-05c6-48ac-88c1-da41e03db7c4 /mnt |
| 20:40.01 | mint | mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member' |
| 20:40.01 | mint | mint@mint ~ $ |
| 20:40.46 | mint | dontknow: am I fucked? |
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| 20:40.59 | tw | mint run vgscan |
| 20:41.11 | dontknow | mint, your encrypted drive is lvm? |
| 20:41.25 | mint | dontknow: i believe so |
| 20:41.32 | tw | sounds like he got the luks part decrypted but it's LVM on that. |
| 20:41.36 | mint | tw: okay ill give it a shot |
| 20:41.45 | mint | tw: yes that is correct I believe |
| 20:42.13 | mint | tw: mint@mint ~ $ sudo vgscan |
| 20:42.13 | mint | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.13 | mint | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.13 | mint | mint@mint ~ $ |
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| 20:42.48 | dontknow | lol |
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| 20:43.11 | mint | tw: got kicked, will use paste.debian.net next time |
| 20:43.30 | mint | dontknow: so I have to decrypt LVM? |
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| 20:43.59 | mint | tw: http://paste.debian.net/912941/ |
| 20:44.04 | tw | mint: your vg is setup now, use lvs to look at individual devices. the lvm blocks should be in /dev/mapper/(VGNAME)-(LVNAME) and you can mount that. |
| 20:45.32 | dontknow | yeah something like that. i am not good at lvm |
| 20:45.46 | mint | tw: still a noob, what's lvs |
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| 20:46.28 | tw | mint: a command. just run it. |
| 20:46.41 | tw | mint: or lsblk --fs |
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| 20:47.14 | mint | tw: http://paste.debian.net/912942/ |
| 20:47.19 | mint | tw: does that look right? |
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| 20:48.23 | dontknow | mint, mount /dev/mapper/mint--vg-root /mnt |
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| 20:49.56 | mint | dontknow: I did, should I be able to see everything in the /mnt folder now? |
| 20:50.06 | dontknow | mint, look at it |
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| 20:52.05 | mint | dontknow: this is all i still get- mint@mint /mnt/home $ sudo ls noob |
| 20:52.05 | mint | Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop README.txt |
| 20:52.20 | mint | dontknow: all i see in my user's folder is those 2 files |
| 20:52.21 | tw | your homedir is also encrypted. |
| 20:52.27 | mint | tw: yes thats right |
| 20:52.38 | mint | tw: how can I decrypt it? |
| 20:52.44 | tw | read the README. I don't remember. |
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| 20:53.01 | tw | It has to do with pam_mount and probably ecryptfs. |
| 20:53.10 | tw | but I am not good with those. |
| 20:53.20 | mint | tw: mint@mint /mnt/home $ ecryptfs-mount-private |
| 20:53.20 | mint | ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly |
| 20:53.28 | mint | tw: so am I fucked now |
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| 20:53.39 | dontknow | mint, good luck with that |
| 20:53.46 | tw | mint: sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash |
| 20:53.49 | tw | then try again |
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| 20:54.24 | tw | may need to sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/proc |
| 20:54.36 | tw | but I don't know for sure how much of an environment ecryptfs requires |
| 20:54.37 | mint | tw: http://paste.debian.net/912944/ |
| 20:54.46 | mint | tw: let me try that command |
| 20:55.08 | tw | Uh. is this from a different architecture? |
| 20:55.23 | tw | like x86 vs amd64? |
| 20:55.29 | tw | or worse ARM? |
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| 20:55.36 | mint | tw: hmmm, no I thought it was amd64 |
| 20:55.56 | mint | tw: this was encrypted from linux mint |
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| 20:56.06 | mint | tw: pretty sure it was 64 anyway |
| 20:56.24 | mint | tw: http://paste.debian.net/912945/ |
| 20:56.26 | Vizva | mint this encrypted device is a lvm too? |
| 20:56.53 | mint | Vizva: I believe so, it may have set an encrypted home folder when I created it 6 months ago |
| 20:57.10 | mint | Vizva: I believe the installer asked me to encrypt my home folder too |
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| 20:57.34 | dontknow | no it is home folder like tw said. it is not lvm |
| 20:57.51 | Vizva | mint you can run this system now ? |
| 20:58.07 | mint | Vizva: no that's why I was trying to scrape the files off of it |
| 20:58.09 | tw | He's got the root block device decrypted; he just needs to get the ecryptfs to decrypt. |
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| 20:58.34 | mint | tw: yeah I think that's what needs to happen, as I believe my home folder was decrypted too |
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| 20:59.06 | mint | tw: my home folder wan encrypted too *** |
| 20:59.10 | Vizva | mint if you start the system whats the rror message, you provide this up there? |
| 20:59.11 | mint | was** |
| 20:59.30 | mint | Vizva: It must have had an incorrect shutdown yesterday at some point, I get a kernel panick error |
| 20:59.50 | mint | Vizva: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmint/comments/5s4oq2/boot_error_after_normal_session_shutdown_caps/?st=iyt5jise&sh=04cf72ca |
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| 21:00.13 | mint | Vizva: it's mint, so I didnt want to burden you guys since this is a debian channel and the mint irc wasn't too helpful with the issue |
| 21:00.29 | mint | Vizva: figured I'd just try to get the files off at least and switch everything to debian |
| 21:00.50 | Vizva | mint you did try start it again with same error ? |
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| 21:01.20 | mint | Vizva: yeah tried a bunch of different methods to boot it, would always freeze up, either through recovery options, or upstart |
| 21:01.33 | missmbob | mint you had backups, right? because not having backups on encrypted shit is pretty funny |
| 21:02.07 | mint | missmbob: have a backup from 2 months ago... I'm not losing a ton, just would like to see if there was a way to get this solved |
| 21:02.33 | mint | missmbob: i know I suck right now, I should be backing up at least weekly, guess I put too much faith in technology sometimes |
| 21:02.39 | mint | missmbob: and get lazy |
| 21:02.48 | dontknow | mint, good news you are not fucked up actually. bad news you just need the find the correct solution |
| 21:02.49 | tw | mint: for the sake of my curiosity, can you exit the chroot (ie with `exit`) then `uname -a` and `file /mnt/usr/bin/ecryptfs-mount-private` |
| 21:03.09 | teraflops | if you have unencrypted backups of encrypted shit what's the point? |
| 21:03.22 | mint | teraflops: backups are encrypted on an external |
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| 21:03.33 | teraflops | ah good |
| 21:03.55 | mint | teraflops: yes my man |
| 21:04.00 | mint | tw: will give that a shot |
| 21:04.13 | mint | dontknow: i hope so, you guys are being too kind over here |
| 21:05.09 | mint | tw: http://paste.debian.net/912948/ |
| 21:06.30 | Vizva | cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb5 backup |
| 21:06.45 | hmuller | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory |
| 21:06.49 | Vizva | whats the output on this? |
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| 21:07.23 | mint | Vizva: mint@mint /mnt/home $ cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb5 backup |
| 21:07.23 | mint | Device /dev/sdb5 doesn't exist or access denied. |
| 21:07.23 | mint | mint@mint /mnt/home $ |
| 21:08.01 | Vizva | <mint> you can reach the /etc directory? |
| 21:08.11 | Vizva | its not encrypted>? |
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| 21:08.37 | mint | Vizva: yes I don't think it's encrypted |
| 21:08.44 | mint | hmuller: I will look this over as well |
| 21:08.49 | tw | I don't know why ecryptfs-mount-private would show up as "data" unless you don't have permissions to read it. That's a mystery. I was expecting like ELF <something something> |
| 21:08.59 | Vizva | then you can take out things on /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab |
| 21:09.10 | mint | tw: ughhhhh |
| 21:09.50 | mint | Vizva: damn, don't see those... |
| 21:09.51 | Vizva | ok there is a command to automatically search for ecryptfs-mount-private directorys |
| 21:10.20 | Vizva | too |
| 21:10.42 | zykotick9 | wonders does cryptsetup need root permissions? |
| 21:10.57 | tw | it does, but he's at ecryptfs recovery now. |
| 21:11.09 | Vizva | <mint> the kernel panic is your root system and things |
| 21:11.21 | Vizva | but you need the private directory |
| 21:11.24 | hmuller | because it plays with dm mappinng |
| 21:11.30 | mint | Vizva: yeah I'm assuming something got corrupted when it shut down and know this is why it all happened |
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| 21:11.37 | zykotick9 | tw: it was the "$ cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb5 backup" followd by "access denied" that i was concerned about... |
| 21:11.53 | Vizva | <mint> so you can build this private partition into a new system |
| 21:12.46 | mint | Vizva: yes those two sections you provided, when googling, people said that I could use parts from fstab and cryptsetup to decrypt by builing a new system |
| 21:12.59 | mint | Vizva: however when looking at my backup, all I have is my user folder |
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| 21:13.20 | Vizva | mint install a new system but best take whats the old system is |
| 21:13.31 | Vizva | if it was mint take mint |
| 21:13.39 | mint | zykotick9: does it seem corrupted? |
| 21:13.55 | Vizva | then use that crypttab and fstab for and youre finished it |
| 21:13.58 | zykotick9 | mint: I have NO idea!!! |
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| 21:14.01 | mint | zykotick9: i didnt do any updates before the computer was shutdown, and then on the new startup is when all this madness started happening |
| 21:14.28 | mint | zykotick9: yeah I know, this is appearing to be a very peculiar error |
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| 21:14.52 | zykotick9 | mint: personally, i don't trust/like the whole "encrypted directory" option... personally i use FDE with luks myself... |
| 21:15.02 | tw | he's doing both. |
| 21:15.23 | zykotick9 | tw: which is NOT a good idea. lots of performance loss for little or no gain :| |
| 21:15.42 | mint | zykotick9: yeah i wont be doing this in the future, I followed the mint setup and it asked to encrypt the home directory, and not knowing too much said, what the hell |
| 21:16.09 | mint | zykotick9: when setting up my new debian system I dont believe I encrypted my home directory, as I read about performance loss |
| 21:16.24 | zykotick9 | mint: call it a "learning experience" ;) best of luck. |
| 21:16.53 | Vizva | i encrypt my whole system but i have backups on a encrypted drive and i have a second encrypted system to start with reaching my lvm and disks, doing this solution, they have near the same fstab and crypttab |
| 21:16.54 | tw | zykotick9: it increases the at-rest time for critical data. I do it for certain user roles, but not for most things. |
| 21:16.55 | mint | zykotick9: does encrypting the home directory even provide more security? |
| 21:17.35 | zykotick9 | mint: if the entire drive is already encrypted... very little <- is _my_ understanding |
| 21:17.37 | missmbob | only if a user finds an exploit to access another user's home dir. not too likely |
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| 21:20.16 | tw | the point of ecryptfs is the data is not online when the user is logged out. This does a really good job preventing cross-user access, even from root. |
| 21:20.25 | tw | it doesn't make sense on a laptop, but it might for a server. |
| 21:20.47 | mint | tw: ah well what do you think the final verdict is here? |
| 21:20.47 | zykotick9 | tw: thanks. that is a good point. |
| 21:21.02 | mint | Without a complete backup somewhere else is this useless? |
| 21:21.30 | Vizva | mint its only work and know what to do |
| 21:21.32 | mint | tw: I dont have the entire system backed up, just my user's folder |
| 21:21.50 | mint | Vizva: yeah but I dont have a backup of /etc/ as far as I can see |
| 21:21.52 | tw | You should currently have access to all the other data on the system except your user's home folder. |
| 21:22.11 | Vizva | mint you dont need a backup if you have that partition or drive |
| 21:22.12 | tw | So I'm guessing you have everything at this point. |
| 21:22.55 | mint | tw: well i have a backup of my user's folder ,but its about 2 months old |
| 21:23.18 | mint | tw: if I had the most recent backup i wouldnt be bothering you kind folks to try to retrieve this stuff |
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| 21:23.29 | mint | Vizva: let me look more closely again |
| 21:23.58 | Vizva | mint install another system and the you bind that lost /home into it , maybe as another name |
| 21:24.01 | mint | Vizva: I still don't see those |
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| 21:24.16 | Vizva | but dont install the same place |
| 21:24.34 | mint | Vizva: but I don't see those two folders you mentioned earlier |
| 21:24.37 | Vizva | mint you add this disk to another linux system , is that correct? |
| 21:24.40 | tw | mint: there was a link provided about manually recovering ecryptfs. I've never done it. You'll have to try that because your ecryptfs-mount-private binary appears broken. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering_Your_Data_Manually |
| 21:25.09 | mint | tw: okay, let me read that more thoroughly |
| 21:25.40 | Vizva | mint yes i see its a part of the encrypted disk |
| 21:25.47 | mint | tw: In the event that you did not write down your mount passphrase, you may be able to recover it by decrypting the file /home/username/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase using your login passphrase. |
| 21:25.52 | mint | tw: is that what I need to do? |
| 21:26.37 | Vizva | mint one suggestion : install kvpm on you system including this disk and in a terminal write some lvm commands , can show up what it can find |
| 21:27.07 | Vizva | vgscan and things |
| 21:27.50 | Vizva | on point it come vgchange -ay |
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| 21:28.02 | Vizva | read and learn about this commands |
| 21:28.30 | tw | mint: your passphrase is most likely your user password. |
| 21:29.03 | mint | yeah tried it, and got: Error: Unwrapping passphrase failed [-2] |
| 21:29.04 | mint | Info: Check the system log for more information from libecryptfs |
| 21:29.13 | mint | tw: even though that was the correct password |
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| 21:29.43 | Vizva | isnt the kernel in /boot? |
| 21:30.24 | Vizva | mint you could reach the boot and repair that thing |
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| 21:30.46 | mint | Vizva: yes the kernel should be in boot |
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| 21:31.04 | Vizva | maybe if you add another kernel |
| 21:31.17 | mint | Vizva: yeah i had 3 kernels in there, and tried them all and they all gave the same error |
| 21:31.32 | mint | Vizva: when trying to boot i selected every advanced option in there |
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| 21:32.47 | Vizva | and try to fsck this partition include that boot |
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| 21:37.38 | mint | Vizva: okay so you want me to reinstall the system |
| 21:39.08 | Vizva | mint best is try to bring that kernel to live |
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| 21:39.53 | Vizva | mint yes did you try to chroot it ? |
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| 21:41.05 | missmbob | how will chroot help his wrapped password error? |
| 21:41.19 | missmbob | this is getting silly. forget about it |
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| 21:42.44 | mint | missmbob: am i dead |
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| 21:43.37 | missmbob | yes. go get drunk and watch football |
| 21:44.55 | Vizva | missbomb its because he reach the system from a wrong side |
| 21:45.49 | Vizva | if you chroot you are using the kernel on the new system |
| 21:45.54 | Vizva | you should know that |
| 21:46.10 | Vizva | and mount everything |
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| 21:47.05 | Vizva | <mint> install the very same system on a free space and chroot it |
| 21:47.15 | Vizva | that'will work |
| 21:47.31 | Vizva | the kernel run then on the new system and all the other things get mounted |
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| 21:48.11 | Vizva | then copy out all data you need and use another system |
| 21:48.17 | missmbob | Vizva: he's left a bit ago. you should know that. |
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| 21:48.44 | Vizva | i could know if |
| 21:48.57 | Vizva | but my solution was correct |
| 21:49.10 | tw | he tried to do exactly that. |
| 21:49.43 | Vizva | but youre not sure he did it the correct way |
| 21:49.54 | tw | i'm pretty sure there was hdd corruption. |
| 21:50.10 | missmbob | that's my bet. |
| 21:50.14 | missmbob | anyway, the end. |
| 21:50.39 | Vizva | ok thank you for providing me with all the details i did miss :) |
| 21:50.52 | Vizva | i have a wife here she needs my attention too sometimes |
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| 21:51.23 | Vizva | so i dont read some things , i cannt be that fast |
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| 22:09.16 | Deific | Hello? |
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| 22:20.08 | Helliana | Will testing freeze today like the timeline shows? |
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| 22:21.00 | Testingz | !Sources |
| 22:21.01 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 22:28.04 | themill | Helliana: yes |
| 22:28.31 | Helliana | sweet. I hadn't seen any news about it, was wonder if it was still happening or delayed. |
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| 22:30.33 | jpw | mega exciting |
| 22:30.49 | Helliana | always! |
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| 22:32.33 | jpw | every release i keep telling myself i should contribute, every release goes by with inaction |
| 22:32.54 | jpw | other than irc questions |
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| 22:39.00 | Deific | Then you are contributing, jpw :) |
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| 22:41.19 | jpw | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:41.34 | jpw | gotta admit the debian community is somewhat daunting |
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| 22:42.38 | gr8 | about when can i expect Debian 9 to be released? |
| 22:43.11 | jpw | gr8 it'll probably be another 6 months at least |
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| 22:43.24 | gr8 | really? |
| 22:43.31 | gr8 | damn |
| 22:44.03 | jpw | https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ when this graph reaches 0 |
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| 22:44.20 | jpw | (after feature lock) |
| 22:44.42 | TomTomTosch | jpw: just go for it. https://people.debian.org/~vorlon/rc-bugsquashing.html |
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| 22:48.25 | themill | Helliana: lists.debian.org/<20170205222956.tgkvf222frsmsj7j@powdarrmonkey.net> |
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| 22:53.38 | _0xbadc0de | help on 3d stuff, anyone? |
| 22:53.53 | _0xbadc0de | glxinfo gives fucked up output here |
| 22:55.51 | jpw | _0xbadc0de: how fucked up we talking? |
| 22:56.17 | _0xbadc0de | https://0bin.net/paste/zlyI1pDxS5QebCKe#cF7pA95mbNKCLiOchtD5JOQr6-kyae5Xuo1KhWvIYhX |
| 22:56.40 | _0xbadc0de | I have followed this all mighty tutorial |
| 22:56.41 | _0xbadc0de | http://docs.kali.org/general-use/install-nvidia-drivers-on-kali-linux |
| 22:56.48 | missmbob | !kali |
| 22:56.48 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 22:56.56 | jpw | _0xbadc0de: what card do you have? |
| 22:57.15 | _0xbadc0de | Nvidia geforce GT 635M |
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| 22:58.15 | jpw | _0xbadc0de: any onboard cards? and output of `lspci` pls |
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| 22:58.45 | _0xbadc0de | onboard idk but probably so, because this one of them laptops that has the option to save charge |
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| 22:59.20 | missmbob | please ask #kali-linux so we can stay on topic here |
| 22:59.27 | themill | dpkg: tell _0xbadc0de about cross-post |
| 22:59.45 | themill | (and as missmbob said, the other channel is the right one) |
| 22:59.52 | _0xbadc0de | dpkg: tell themill about africa starvation problem |
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| 23:10.24 | SkyBlooD | h |
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| 23:21.34 | hmuller | does rescue mode work on an encrypted root system? |
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| 23:22.22 | jpw | hmuller: yes provided the dm_crypt kernel mod is loaded |
| 23:23.59 | hmuller | jpw: thanks, I must have done something silly like run update-passwd in the wrong terminal |
| 23:24.08 | rudi_s | And assuming you know the password of the LUKS device. |
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| 23:26.29 | hmuller | rudi_s: indeed I do |
| 23:26.41 | Keitaro | is anyone here had already configure a mda server with dovecot plz ? |
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| 23:26.51 | manuelschneid3r | Hi folks |
| 23:27.05 | manuelschneid3r | is there a way to get the aliases in bash programmatically |
| 23:27.11 | jpw | Keitaro: mta? |
| 23:27.20 | manuelschneid3r | is there something like a libbash? |
| 23:27.26 | manuelschneid3r | context is c++ |
| 23:27.35 | Keitaro | mail delivery agent jpw |
| 23:27.49 | Keitaro | i got a problem with my dovecot configuration :/ |
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| 23:28.02 | missmbob | manuelschneid3r: #bash |
| 23:28.03 | manuelschneid3r | hmm I should rephrase this: Is there a way to get the bash aliases programmatically using c/c++ |
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| 23:29.34 | jpw | Keitaro: dovecot has its own mda what are you trying to deliver to? |
| 23:29.38 | manuelschneid3r | ty missmbob |
| 23:30.19 | Keitaro | jpw, i am trying to configure a mail server MDA (dovecot) and MTA (postfix) |
| 23:30.37 | Keitaro | when i send a mail on the postfix server using the mail command it work well |
| 23:30.37 | Brigo | manuelschneid3r, i think they are in the environment, if you can access it you could. |
| 23:30.58 | Keitaro | but i don't know why i can't start my dovecot server |
| 23:31.07 | Keitaro | when i do service dovecot start it said : |
| 23:31.09 | rudi_s | Brigo: They are not. |
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| 23:31.22 | Keitaro | Starting Dovecot IMAP/POP3 email server... |
| 23:31.29 | Keitaro | Started Dovecot IMAP/POP3 email server. |
| 23:31.30 | rudi_s | manuelschneid3r: It's difficult, because you'd have to parse bash shell (all startup files) which is not easy when you're not a shell. |
| 23:31.36 | rudi_s | But why would you do something like that? |
| 23:31.38 | Brigo | rudi_s, you are right |
| 23:31.41 | Keitaro | master: Fatal: service(auth) User doesn't exist: postfix (See service auth { unix_listener /var/spool/pos... settin |
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| 23:32.10 | Brigo | manuelschneid3r, check the man pages, getaliasbyname, for example could work for you |
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| 23:33.10 | manuelschneid3r | rudi_s, want to build a launcher with a terminal/shell plugin |
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| 23:34.56 | rudi_s | Brigo: ? |
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| 23:35.32 | Brigo | rudi_s, is a c library, i think is what manuelschneid3r is looking for. |
| 23:35.43 | rudi_s | manuelschneid3r: And for that you want to resolve aliases as well? Then ask the shell to give them to you. |
| 23:35.49 | TomTomTosch | Brigo: it has nothing to do with bash aliases. |
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| 23:36.09 | rudi_s | And parsing anything shell in C is wrong and won't work. |
| 23:36.24 | Brigo | TomTomTosch, The quiestion was: Is there a way to get the bash aliases programmatically using c/c++? |
| 23:36.53 | TomTomTosch | exactly |
| 23:37.07 | rudi_s | manuelschneid3r: bash -i -c 'alias' and parse that output. I don't think it's a good idea to do that, but if you really want to handle aliases, I think the best way. |
| 23:37.08 | Brigo | then i am missing something |
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| 23:40.55 | TomTomTosch | Brigo: your answer has nothing to do with finding bash aliases. that's a function to query mail aliases. |
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| 23:42.14 | Brigo | TomTomTosch, ok, i see now i was completely wrong, sorry dudes! :) |
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| 23:46.10 | g0zzy | Maybe tricky because of non-standardization? |
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