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| 01:22.48 | AlexPortable | Is there a similar tool like webmin? |
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| 01:23.49 | missmbob | !free whcp |
| 01:23.49 | dpkg | FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig> and <ispCP> Omega. Don't use <Webmin>. http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
| 01:23.58 | AlexPortable | Well I'm not looking for a webhosting panel |
| 01:25.14 | AlexPortable | missmbob: ^ |
| 01:25.39 | AlexPortable | !free controlpanels |
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| 01:27.48 | AlexPortable | Also to manage users and groups |
| 01:27.50 | AlexPortable | and their permissions |
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| 01:37.17 | Arianna | Is there any way to reread the fsck messages that appear during boot (ex: check forced in 3 mounts)? I thought dmesg would do it, but no. |
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| 01:48.44 | missmbob | Arianna: they're in /var/log/fsck/ |
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| 01:59.24 | Tynach | Hi, how do I force aptitude/synaptic (or whichever is able) to remove a package before installing other packages, to fix broken packages? One package that's partially installed is trying to overwrite a file from another package, but nothing depends on that other package, so I want to simply remove it first before finishing the install of the broken package. However, whenever I simply mark the package I want removed to be removed, and mark |
| 01:59.25 | Tynach | the package to be fixed as being upgraded/installed, it tries to install the latter before removing the former (which just causes it to error and do nothing). |
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| 02:21.50 | veek | any way to populate tmpfs in debian with expected files |
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| 02:44.11 | hackspirit0 | Hi all, I tried installing the debian using the Win32DiskImager and while installing it on USB drive |
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| 02:44.27 | hackspirit0 | the deb installation is stuck at the |
| 02:44.43 | hackspirit0 | 33% creating the / partition |
| 02:44.55 | hackspirit0 | i have waited like 15 minutes |
| 02:45.07 | hackspirit0 | any idea what is wrong? |
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| 02:45.42 | hackspirit0 | debian usb installation stuck at / partition creation, any idea ahy? |
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| 02:46.43 | hackspirit0 | debian usb installation stuck at / partition creation, any idea ahy? |
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| 02:47.43 | hackspirit0 | https://webchat.freenode.net/ |
| 02:47.47 | hackspirit0 | oops |
| 02:47.54 | hackspirit0 | [08:16] <hackspirit0> debian usb installation stuck at / partition creation, any idea ahy? |
| 02:48.07 | hackspirit0 | debian usb installation stuck at / partition creation, any idea why? |
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| 02:48.21 | hackspirit0 | debian usb installation stuck at / partition creation, any idea ahy? |
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| 02:54.53 | efloid | does anyone know how to mount a usb flash drive on an old system running 2.6 kernel? |
| 02:55.13 | efloid | some module that needs to be loaded? |
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| 02:55.44 | missmbob | sudo mount /dev/sdx /path |
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| 02:57.03 | missmbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.11 | efloid | missmbob: but it's not showing up as sda |
| 02:57.21 | efloid | what's the module that needs to be loaded? |
| 02:57.28 | missmbob | i dont care what it shows up as |
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| 02:57.42 | missmbob | there is no module |
| 02:58.02 | efloid | missmbob: in syslog there's nothing that shows up registering as sdX |
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| 02:58.34 | efloid | i get "not a valid block device" for sda1 |
| 02:58.37 | missmbob | i didnt actually mean x. it's a variable. it'll be sd something (not a) |
| 02:59.30 | efloid | the hard disk is hda |
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| 03:00.05 | TheCoffeMaker | efloid, where are you trying to run the usb? |
| 03:00.08 | missmbob | are you being thick on purpose? |
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| 03:00.24 | efloid | syslog just shows that a usb device is plugged in but says "USB device ... is not claimed by any active driver" |
| 03:00.42 | efloid | missmbob: no sorry |
| 03:00.43 | TheCoffeMaker | efloid, what's your machine? |
| 03:00.57 | efloid | TheCoffeMaker: Thinkpad 235 |
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| 03:01.20 | efloid | from 2003 |
| 03:01.44 | TheCoffeMaker | estoy viendo |
| 03:01.58 | TheCoffeMaker | im seeing |
| 03:02.01 | TheCoffeMaker | :P |
| 03:02.25 | nmschulte | aptitude, in interactive mode, is telling me I have a bunch of package conflicts that need resolved (by installing packages that are currently not installed), but using aptitude upgrade says I have nothing to do. How do I resolve this properly? |
| 03:02.31 | efloid | the flash drive is actually bigger than the hard drive :-/ |
| 03:02.45 | TheCoffeMaker | lol |
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| 03:03.17 | efloid | TheCoffeMaker: there's a 2.4 and a 2.6 kernel on it |
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| 03:04.03 | TheCoffeMaker | you want just to mount it right? not booting ... booting is fine? |
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| 03:04.46 | efloid | TheCoffeMaker: yes just mount. bios doesn't support booting from USB. i have to use Tom's Root or another floppy to try and load module to boot of usb CD drive |
| 03:05.07 | efloid | TheCoffeMaker: but right now i just want to mount usb flash drive with it |
| 03:05.10 | TheCoffeMaker | :) |
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| 03:05.40 | efloid | actually i think in the past i had a scsi pcmcia card that connected to a cd drive |
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| 03:05.50 | TheCoffeMaker | you need usbhid |
| 03:06.02 | TheCoffeMaker | you need usbcore |
| 03:06.23 | efloid | i see usbcore and usb-ohci loaded |
| 03:06.36 | efloid | no usbhid module found |
| 03:06.45 | TheCoffeMaker | ohci is because usb 1.0 |
| 03:07.15 | TheCoffeMaker | usb_storage ? |
| 03:07.28 | efloid | am rebooting to 2.6 kernel.... |
| 03:07.33 | efloid | will try in a sec |
| 03:07.35 | TheCoffeMaker | ok |
| 03:08.01 | efloid | this thing has unstable on it. wonder what would happen if i do an apt-get upgrade? |
| 03:08.51 | TheCoffeMaker | will implode |
| 03:08.55 | TheCoffeMaker | LOL |
| 03:09.06 | efloid | i'm really appreciateing IceWM |
| 03:10.02 | TheCoffeMaker | efloid, open a terminal and monitor the syslog ... with tail -500f /var/log/syslog |
| 03:10.14 | efloid | hmm usb_storage appears to have loaded |
| 03:10.26 | TheCoffeMaker | try pluging and unpluging the drive |
| 03:10.47 | TheCoffeMaker | you should see the events on the log |
| 03:10.48 | efloid | yep it's seeing the drive |
| 03:10.53 | efloid | yes in syslog |
| 03:11.03 | TheCoffeMaker | :) |
| 03:11.15 | TheCoffeMaker | you are just a mount away now |
| 03:11.24 | efloid | i'll be damned |
| 03:11.35 | efloid | i see it now as sda. thanks! |
| 03:12.00 | TheCoffeMaker | u r welcome |
| 03:12.43 | efloid | so i can add something to /etc/hotplug.d ? |
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| 03:14.26 | efloid | or maybe /etc/modutils |
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| 03:16.57 | AlwaysHigh | hey how can i check what encoding type my debian os is using? |
| 03:17.43 | AlwaysHigh | cause im running a python script which is pulling filenames & paths but is converting strings to bytes like it converted ... to \x85 |
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| 03:17.51 | AlwaysHigh | which is totally confusing me |
| 03:19.12 | neiz | are you high? |
| 03:19.25 | neiz | only kidding :) try: echo $LC_CTYPE |
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| 03:20.04 | AlwaysHigh | neiz, not currently :P but that returned nothing |
| 03:20.38 | dvs | AlwaysHigh, then try: locale |
| 03:20.57 | AlwaysHigh | dvs locale? |
| 03:21.16 | neiz | yup :) or try running 'locale charmap' |
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| 03:21.41 | AlwaysHigh | ok that returned UTF-8 |
| 03:21.48 | AlwaysHigh | boy this is really pissing me off now |
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| 03:22.30 | AlwaysHigh | -> /pool0/Music/metallica/1988 - âAnd Justice for All/02 - âAnd Justice for All.mp3 |
| 03:22.30 | AlwaysHigh | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:22.38 | AlwaysHigh | thats printed from python script |
| 03:22.46 | AlwaysHigh | pulled from os.walk() |
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| 03:23.39 | neiz | pass a Unicode string to os.walk() |
| 03:23.42 | neiz | os.walk(ur'C:\example') |
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| 03:26.17 | AlwaysHigh | neiz the inital dir that is walking is the one with special characters |
| 03:26.22 | AlwaysHigh | its what it returns |
| 03:26.25 | AlwaysHigh | that fails |
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| 03:27.26 | AlwaysHigh | neiz, UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0x85 in position 8: ordinal not in range(128) |
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| 03:28.45 | AlwaysHigh | neiz is like os.walk is converting ... to \x85 |
| 03:28.52 | AlwaysHigh | not matter for format anything is in |
| 03:29.10 | AlwaysHigh | like why the F**K would it convert ... |
| 03:29.16 | AlwaysHigh | its no speical character |
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| 03:30.53 | neiz | hmm, not sure if related but http://bugs.python.org/issue13207 |
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| 03:33.19 | AlwaysHigh | yeah cause i can os.walk the ... directory |
| 03:33.35 | AlwaysHigh | and it outputs fine |
| 03:34.00 | AlwaysHigh | litterly i had encode types |
| 03:34.13 | AlwaysHigh | hate* |
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| 03:39.43 | lhunath | Does it make sense to install stretch packages into a jessie system or should I either stick to jessie+jessie-backports or completely switch over to stretch? |
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| 03:41.24 | somiaj | !don'tbreakdebian |
| 03:41.25 | dpkg | [dont break debian] https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 03:41.30 | somiaj | lhunath: read that ^^ |
| 03:42.50 | lhunath | Cool, glad I asked. |
| 03:45.04 | veek | any way to populate tmpfs in debian with files automatically |
| 03:45.34 | somiaj | lhunath: it is a shared libary system, so the problem is with the libaries needed to install a stretch package more than the stretch package. And that is what a backport is, newer software complied for the jessie libaries. |
| 03:45.44 | somiaj | veek: what do you mean? You just want to fill up your ram with files? |
| 03:46.34 | lhunath | So, self-backport. |
| 03:46.51 | somiaj | !ssb |
| 03:46.51 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 03:47.10 | somiaj | lhunath: jessie-backports are just packages someone else has done the leg-work, in this case a trusted debian matainer/developer |
| 03:47.13 | veek | somiaj, i want to feed a populated /var/log but via tmpfs |
| 03:47.34 | somiaj | veek: why do you want /var/log as tmpfs, you will loose all logs if the system shuts down. |
| 03:47.55 | veek | somiaj, ah yep, it's for a usb stick |
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| 03:48.06 | veek | somiaj, usb rescue so |
| 03:48.07 | somiaj | veek: use a live system over installing on the usb stick |
| 03:48.24 | somiaj | debian live systems aren't the best, but you can try to make it presistant |
| 03:48.31 | veek | somiaj, nope i want my WM etc |
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| 03:49.15 | somiaj | persistant live images can do that, debian also has tools to build a custom live image, but what you want is a live image. I don't know of any easy way to get what you want via an install. It may be possible but will require some to lots of work. |
| 03:49.29 | veek | somiaj, can it be done though? i tried something like: tmpfs /var/log tmpfs defaults,noatime,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=1777,size=100M 0 0 |
| 03:49.30 | lhunath | !bdo |
| 03:49.31 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
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| 03:49.55 | veek | but systemd starts spitting out errors (i suspect because it's empty) |
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| 03:51.26 | somiaj | veek: unsure there, a persistant live image may be a better choice. If you really wanted to dive into it, you could check out live-build and try to build a custom live image. |
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| 03:52.38 | veek | somiaj, the thing is i'm so close, the darn thing boots into X with wm and everything and then hangs.. |
| 03:53.05 | veek | i just installed onto usb and messed with fstab |
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| 03:53.48 | somiaj | well I'm unsure what sort of things you have to do to make /var/log tmpfs, also usb i/o can be slow, live images are better for what you want. |
| 03:53.48 | missmbob | somiaj: have you ever managed? i've read myths |
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| 03:54.09 | missmbob | somiaj: i tried quite a bit |
| 03:54.17 | somiaj | missmbob: It is on my todo list, but never tried. I think you first just want to follow the old docs if you can find them and build one of the predefined images first. |
| 03:54.54 | missmbob | i tried a bit. i dont think it's real :P |
| 03:54.56 | somiaj | though the docs are a bit outdated and you have to update for the git for them. |
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| 03:55.35 | somiaj | missmbob: well my understanding is live-build is what is building the current live images, so someone knows how to make it work. |
| 03:56.19 | somiaj | missmbob: if you see SynrG, ask them, he is part of the live team afiak. |
| 03:56.31 | missmbob | somiaj: ah thanks |
| 03:58.28 | somiaj | veek: there are some docs out there for making the jessie live images persistant, and some of them have some sucess (requres using syslinux). One can install/remove packages and have a custom $HOME doing this, so you run a live enviorment off of the usb as opposed to the install. This is the way I think more people are sucessful at getting a custom live image in debian |
| 03:58.56 | somiaj | missmbob: maybe one of these years there will be some more interest in getting a better debian live system, I keep hoping, but alas I don't see it happening in the near future. |
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| 04:01.57 | veek | somiaj, i don't need persistence.. rather i want to copy a fixed set of cfg files into /var/log at mount time so apps don't complain about missing files |
| 04:02.44 | veek | basically i was able to use loop losetup to mount on top of the tmpfs :p but it hung when X ran |
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| 04:03.13 | veek | also it had to be done manually |
| 04:03.21 | tw | you probably want to union under the tmpfs |
| 04:03.24 | theduck | I'm having problems getting an init script to start. If I do `/etc/init.d/odoo-posbox start`, it says "[ ok ] Starting odoo-posbox (via systemctl): odoo-posbox.service.", however it does not start, and nothing appears in the logs. Here is my script http://pastebin.com/TazA612x. Note, executing /opt/odoo/odoo10/odoo-bin directly starts the server successfully. |
| 04:03.45 | tw | or just touch a whole bunch of files on the tmpfs. |
| 04:03.47 | veek | tw ah yeah! i've been hearing about union.. hmm okay let me read thanks |
| 04:03.57 | somiaj | theduck: you should use systemctl with systemd, and in this case look at 'systemctl status odoo-postbox.service' |
| 04:04.39 | theduck | somiaj, "Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)" |
| 04:04.54 | theduck | somiaj, What file or directory is that referring to? |
| 04:05.05 | somiaj | theduck: where did you get this script? Anyreason y ou can't write a proper service file for it? |
| 04:05.19 | theduck | somiaj, you had a typo. It's posbox, not postbox. |
| 04:05.58 | theduck | somiaj, I copied it from https://github.com/odoo/odoo/blob/10.0/debian/init |
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| 04:06.26 | somiaj | theduck: sorry, did you get logs about what is happening. systemctl doesn't work like sysv, it runs in parallel, so all starting a service does is tell systemd to do it in the background as a parallel request. So things will always exit nicely and look like the run, use systemctl status service to get the output of any errors from the script. |
| 04:07.01 | theduck | somiaj, no errors, just "Feb 10 21:58:39 moonglow systemd[1]: Started LSB: Start odoo daemon at boot time." |
| 04:07.41 | somiaj | theduck: maybe the script isn't doing what it needs to do. Hard to support third party software. What I would do is figure out how to run it manually and write a custom .service file as opposed to useing a sysv script. |
| 04:07.50 | somiaj | theduck: service files aren't that complicated, which makes this nice |
| 04:08.18 | theduck | somiaj, Not sure what I changed, but I restarted it and it's running now... |
| 04:08.34 | dubwoc | what is the old school linux side scroller with chain saws and aligns and network play? |
| 04:08.38 | dubwoc | xdie or something |
| 04:09.07 | theduck | somiaj, or at least, I get internal server error instead of unable to connect. Which is a step in the right direction. |
| 04:09.14 | somiaj | theduck: it could be the software just is bad reporting errors..but I don't know the software so just grapshing at starws. |
| 04:11.13 | theduck | somiaj, It's python scripts, so basically everything produces a traceback. But the logs were completely empty. I have something there now, so I'll see what I'm doing wrong. Thanks for the help. |
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| 04:16.58 | dubwoc | ahh man no one knowws |
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| 04:21.52 | dubwoc | xevil |
| 04:21.54 | dubwoc | righteous |
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| 04:25.51 | transhuman_ | hi if I have a config that use upstream_phpapache.conf.. I am wondering the server 127.0.0.1:8080; corresponds to a setting in another file.. what file would this be on Debian/Ubuntu? for apache/php? |
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| 04:26.38 | somiaj | transhuman_: debian and ubuntu might be different, but look at the apache config dir, there is sites-enabled that has links to various virtual domain configs |
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| 04:27.22 | transhuman_ | oh its in the virtual domains configuration ok....then this is all I need I have set it up on a previous install I will just look...thanks |
| 04:27.28 | transhuman_ | I knew I had seen it before |
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| 04:34.14 | gferencz | I did a simple backport I think would be useful to the community, so I'm making an attempt at my first formal backport. I used sbuild per the wiki instructions. It succeeded in building, but lintian failed (I see 'Failed to execute "lintian"' in the build log). Any ideas where I may have gone wrong? |
| 04:34.49 | missmbob | gferencz: go to #debian-mentors on oftc |
| 04:35.17 | gferencz | missmbob, OK. Thanks! |
| 04:35.19 | somiaj | gferencz: there are also some instructions about creating backports at backports.debian.org, there is extra work if you are not the matainer. |
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| 04:35.36 | hackspirit0 | Hello |
| 04:36.06 | hackspirit0 | I ve tried installing debian on bootable usb |
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| 04:36.30 | hackspirit0 | But it is stuck at creating / partition |
| 04:36.34 | hackspirit0 | Any help |
| 04:37.18 | hackspirit0 | Debian usb boot stuck at creating / |
| 04:37.43 | hackspirit0 | Anyone There |
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| 04:43.11 | veek | how do you disable clearing of the screen at boot up - to see all the errors (i've disabled quiet in /etc/default/grub |
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| 04:44.10 | jamse | hi, i can't figure out how to install wifi drivers for lenovo ideapad 100s |
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| 04:44.20 | jamse | i need them to install the installation |
| 04:44.31 | jamse | i have no ethernet on my laptop |
| 04:44.36 | missmbob | !firmware iso |
| 04:44.37 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 04:45.22 | jamse | ??????????????????????????????? |
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| 04:52.52 | hackspirit0 | Hello, while installing debian on bootable usb, the boot is stuck at 'creating /' what to do? |
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| 04:54.06 | hackspirit0 | I waited like 15 min and it does not prooceeds |
| 04:55.06 | hackspirit0 | Any idea? |
| 04:55.26 | lhunath | I'm not sure I understand what is happening here: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8978809 - aptitude install linux-image-rt-amd64 suggests installing two packages, I accept the solution, then it does nothing? |
| 04:56.28 | centrx | lhunath: Read the solution again |
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| 04:56.51 | lhunath | Is it suggesting to "not install" the dependencies? |
| 04:56.56 | centrx | yes |
| 04:57.35 | lhunath | I figured that since it is past tense "not installed", it was a status (package is currently not installed) as opposed to a strategy. |
| 04:57.54 | centrx | "Keep the following packages at their current version:" |
| 04:57.58 | hackspirit0 | I m not sure ive used the cd 1 of kde |
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| 04:58.01 | lhunath | Hmm. |
| 04:58.20 | lhunath | Okay. So. Is there a way to figure out why it is unable to upgrade linux-base? |
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| 04:59.07 | lhunath | Ah, if I hit "n" it suggests upgrading linux-base. |
| 04:59.08 | centrx | lhunath: Seems like it might need the linux-base from backports, the backport package is depending on a version that must not be in the regular archive |
| 04:59.21 | hackspirit0 | :( |
| 04:59.25 | centrx | lhunath: That seems like the solution |
| 04:59.45 | lhunath | Yes, cheers. |
| 04:59.47 | centrx | hackspirit0: Hard to say |
| 05:00.19 | hackspirit0 | Is it like its going to take long time n i just waited for 15 mins |
| 05:00.20 | centrx | hackspirit0: problem with the usb key or the image? problem with the hard drive on the destination machine? problem with the RAM? |
| 05:00.36 | centrx | hackspirit0: It sounds like it's stuck/bug |
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| 05:00.47 | hackspirit0 | I am trying to use usb live bootable debian |
| 05:00.50 | crzyp3ck | hello people |
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| 05:01.09 | crzyp3ck | I need to nstall dooble but I can't find a deb package for it |
| 05:01.19 | crzyp3ck | Could someone help me? |
| 05:01.20 | hackspirit0 | Like i have done for kali Ubuntu mint |
| 05:01.46 | bazhang | what is dooble |
| 05:02.29 | centrx | crzyp3ck: Looks like best option is to download it and compile |
| 05:02.30 | hackspirit0 | While installing the debian live on usb the whole process is stuck on creating / |
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| 05:02.35 | crzyp3ck | bazhang: a nice web browser.http://dooble.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 05:02.37 | centrx | hackspirit0: Are there any other messages? |
| 05:03.05 | bazhang | do they have a debain version? |
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| 05:03.31 | hackspirit0 | No, the blue screen just stops on 33% creating / partition on usb |
| 05:03.33 | crzyp3ck | centrx: it is a very messy business. it needs gtmake V5 |
| 05:03.34 | bazhang | ,v dooble |
| 05:03.35 | judd | No package named 'dooble' was found in amd64. |
| 05:04.03 | crzyp3ck | bazhang: search launchpad. there is one there |
| 05:05.04 | hackspirit0 | ?? |
| 05:05.06 | centrx | hackspirit0: Try running memtest to find if there is a problem with your RAM? |
| 05:05.16 | centrx | hackspirit0: Do you see an option for that when booting? |
| 05:05.50 | hackspirit0 | I dont think there is problem with ram as i hve tried Ubuntu usb |
| 05:06.47 | hackspirit0 | I m not sure if there is memstat option on screen |
| 05:06.55 | hackspirit0 | I hope i am clear here |
| 05:07.03 | centrx | hackspirit0: Is this the first time you've tried install from this usb? Try just restartinga nd try again? |
| 05:07.17 | hackspirit0 | What i am doing is installing the live debian on usb |
| 05:07.34 | hackspirit0 | Ok i will try it out again |
| 05:08.24 | hackspirit0 | No i have tried ubuntu, kali, mint all using univeral usb installer |
| 05:08.34 | hackspirit0 | All worked pretty well |
| 05:09.09 | hackspirit0 | Except debian for which i used win32diskimager |
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| 05:19.14 | missmbob | installing via the live installer is a pretty bad idea. that method is known to be rather buggy. use the real installer |
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| 06:22.10 | talkJS | When it comes to dkim with exim, is it just a matter of setting a config value inside exam? |
| 06:22.17 | talkJS | s/exam/exim/ |
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| 06:40.10 | duckx0r | I'm having trouble getting some udev rules to match. Here are my rules and an example device: http://pastebin.com/fn07xTzc. Can anyone help me with that? |
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| 07:04.17 | missmbob | !pastebin.com |
| 07:04.17 | dpkg | pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 07:11.43 | greenorange | Hi, how can I force gnome network manager to only use a vpn. I seems to disconnect every now and again without me noticing. I want to disallow non-vpn all packets |
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| 07:24.57 | epsilon | greenorange: how about iptables? only allow bulk traffic via tun/tap, everything else only to the vpn server |
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| 07:30.46 | thvle | hello, when I installing debian from netinst I get not kernel found error. Why ? |
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| 07:31.24 | missmbob | how did you copy the installer? |
| 07:31.43 | thvle | the iso ? |
| 07:31.55 | missmbob | yes |
| 07:32.04 | thvle | unetbootin |
| 07:32.08 | missmbob | figures |
| 07:32.12 | missmbob | !unetbootin |
| 07:32.13 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
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| 07:32.37 | thvle | !usb-install |
| 07:32.37 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
| 07:33.05 | thvle | thanks missmbob |
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| 07:49.51 | epsilon | thvle: the easiest way to create usb boot media is to dd the is to the stick in linux. if you have no linux yet, use deban-live, then dd if=(netinstall).iso of=/dev/sd(letter of the usb drive) |
| 07:52.03 | thvle | epsilon ty |
| 07:53.12 | thvle | By the way, to install Xorg minimally what I should install? |
| 07:55.59 | missmbob | xserver-xorg-core |
| 07:56.43 | missmbob | i'd just do xserver-xorg |
| 07:57.06 | thvle | and is needed anymore for a X with nvidia drivers? |
| 07:57.17 | missmbob | yes |
| 07:57.32 | missmbob | !nvidia |
| 07:57.32 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 07:58.10 | thvle | of course, the nvidia driver, but... respect X, with xserver-xorg works? |
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| 07:58.20 | missmbob | yes |
| 07:58.37 | thvle | Should I install with --no-install-recommends? |
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| 07:59.00 | missmbob | see what they are and decide if you want them |
| 07:59.06 | thvle | okay |
| 07:59.37 | thvle | I need disable nouveau before or after the install nvidia propietary? |
| 07:59.52 | missmbob | you can do it after you apt-get |
| 08:00.05 | thvle | okay ty |
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| 08:01.40 | thvle | missmbob: in https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers not show how disable nouveau |
| 08:02.05 | missmbob | thvle: you blacklist the module |
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| 08:06.59 | thvle | missmbob: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf ? |
| 08:07.08 | missmbob | thvle: yes |
| 08:08.35 | thvle | I'm looking at google, but I find several different files ... I do not know which one is correct. missmbob |
| 08:08.59 | missmbob | thvle: it doesnt matter. the file can be called anything you like |
| 08:09.21 | missmbob | thvle: all files in that dir get read |
| 08:09.52 | thvle | aah okay perfect |
| 08:09.53 | thvle | :) |
| 08:10.25 | missmbob | thvle: i've gotta pass out. i'm bet others will help. good luck |
| 08:10.52 | thvle | thanks. regards! |
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| 08:23.57 | dale | Does anybody know how ssh-agent gets kicked off under gnome-session, i.e., which configuration file causes this to happen? |
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| 08:26.42 | dale | ? |
| 08:27.03 | dale | Anybody? |
| 08:27.04 | missmbob | !wait |
| 08:27.05 | dpkg | If no-one has answered your question to your satisfaction, please wait 10 minutes before asking again. Please don't whine about your problem, about the channel, about Debian, Linux, or anything else. Just wait 10 minutes and then ask again. Ask me about <repeat> and <ask>. |
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| 09:23.05 | ElDiabolo | Any hints on what to do about ununblankable screen blanking. After some time of not using it my laptop screen blanks and I need to use Alt+Print+K to end that. |
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| 09:32.55 | puzzlingWeirdo | i've been given a 32bit debian package but i'm having issues running it. dpkg archtechtures supported are i386 and amd64. |
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| 09:33.33 | puzzlingWeirdo | it says "no such file or directory found" when running the executable |
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| 09:34.17 | puzzlingWeirdo | i thought the binaries were statically linked - but is there a way to check for dependencies? |
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| 09:38.11 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, You can use ldd <inary> to list the dynamically linked libs. |
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| 09:40.48 | puzzlingWeirdo | ElDiabolo: they are not dynamically linked |
| 09:41.31 | puzzlingWeirdo | however, one binary that is dynamically linked, and is x86_64 is running no problem |
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| 09:42.55 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, You are sure about that? |
| 09:43.50 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, use strace, maybe the binary is missing a configuration file. |
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| 09:45.41 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, What does file say about said binary? |
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| 09:48.51 | puzzlingWeirdo | ElDiabolo: strace: http://dpaste.com/3F3SNMK : one sec for file |
| 09:49.27 | puzzlingWeirdo | ElDiabolo: "aiStarter: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=0b7ec69824a1ff621c8e697a32d12f1cf42274c6, not stripped" |
| 09:50.07 | puzzlingWeirdo | "dynamically linked" but ldd shows "not a dynamic executable" are they they same thing? |
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| 09:52.01 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, Yes. |
| 09:52.04 | MrAndu | Hey, been away from debian from a long time, trying out stretch here and testing some stuff. Can't seem to find amavisd-new package for it... |
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| 09:52.59 | puzzlingWeirdo | ElDiabolo: what do you think the issue could be? |
| 09:53.10 | puzzlingWeirdo | think it's a multi-arch thing? |
| 09:55.45 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, Just looking at the strace output trying to understand it. |
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| 09:57.48 | ElDiabolo | It looks like aiStarter is trying to start itself, but can't find itself. |
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| 09:58.38 | ElDiabolo | What does ./aiStarter -h say? |
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| 10:00.00 | puzzlingWeirdo | ElDiabolo: "no such file or directory" |
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| 10:02.41 | puzzlingWeirdo | weird.. |
| 10:03.26 | sIRwa2 | Hi, after installing with apt-get, i now get this msg: insserv: script subsonic4.2: service subsonic already provided! |
| 10:03.28 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, http://dpaste.com/32XMDHG |
| 10:03.52 | sIRwa2 | but i cant find a script named like that :/ |
| 10:04.06 | ElDiabolo | An empty executable also does a execve. |
| 10:04.10 | sIRwa2 | any hint where to look? |
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| 10:04.42 | sIRwa2 | sry to talk tru the conversation |
| 10:05.42 | puzzlingWeirdo | ElDiabolo: well it'sdefinately an elf binary, perhaps my system isn't running 32bit executables? |
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| 10:06.40 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, You did switch to multiarch, did you? |
| 10:06.56 | puzzlingWeirdo | ElDiabolo: via dpkg? |
| 10:07.08 | puzzlingWeirdo | how do i check? |
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| 10:08.06 | ElDiabolo | sIRwa2, Don't be sorry, this is chat. Unfortunately I have no helpful idea. Ask google for insserv, thats what I would do. |
| 10:08.43 | puzzlingWeirdo | ElDiabolo: do you mean dpkg --add-architecture i386? |
| 10:09.26 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, Have a look at https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO#Configuring_architectures |
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| 10:10.11 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, You are running at least wheezy, are you. |
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| 10:10.58 | sIRwa2 | oke, tnx ElDiabolo :) |
| 10:12.26 | puzzlingWeirdo | ElDiabolo: im running jessie |
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| 10:12.50 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, Has multiarch. |
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| 10:18.40 | puzzlingWeirdo | oh well |
| 10:18.47 | puzzlingWeirdo | i guess I'm on my own then |
| 10:18.55 | puzzlingWeirdo | http://dpaste.com/0NNP3KZ for anyone interested |
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| 10:19.45 | puzzlingWeirdo | ElDiabolo: http://dpaste.com/0NNP3KZ |
| 10:20.01 | ElDiabolo | The train reaches the mountains, the connection gets shaky. |
| 10:20.36 | puzzlingWeirdo | ahh, germany has beautiful scenery though |
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| 10:21.40 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, Only the eifel south of cologne :) |
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| 10:22.32 | puzzlingWeirdo | so dpkg --print-architectures shows only amd64 |
| 10:22.51 | puzzlingWeirdo | but /var/lib/dpkg/arch shows i386 and amd64 |
| 10:25.32 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, To me it looks like you switche on multiarch but are missing the basic infrastructure. However I have no idea what to do about that. Maybe install an i386 package (where you do not have the amd64) for testing. |
| 10:26.19 | puzzlingWeirdo | 1 sec |
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| 10:28.11 | puzzlingWeirdo | ElDiabolo: looks like it's pulling in a ton of i686 libs |
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| 10:29.52 | puzzlingWeirdo | ElDiabolo: that looks to have done it. i saw it pull in libc6 |
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| 10:30.31 | puzzlingWeirdo | isn't there a way to get the dependency tree - like revdep-rebuild on gentoo? |
| 10:31.03 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, This will most likely help you. I think you were missing the infrastructure for executing i386 binaries. |
| 10:31.04 | ElDiabolo | Ten minutes to go 'til destination. |
| 10:31.56 | ElDiabolo | puzzlingWeirdo, Don't know. |
| 10:32.14 | puzzlingWeirdo | thanks for your help ElDiabolo, where are yougoing today? |
| 10:32.58 | ElDiabolo | Working on my retirement house. |
| 10:33.34 | puzzlingWeirdo | ElDiabolo: oh? Sounds nice. lucky you i guess |
| 10:34.13 | ElDiabolo | Also means I am getting old :) |
| 10:34.27 | ElDiabolo | But lucky me, yes. |
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| 10:36.53 | ElDiabolo | Bye. |
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| 10:38.29 | noqnio1 | Good morning ! |
| 10:38.44 | noqnio1 | Any cheap tabled that works well with debian? |
| 10:39.01 | noqnio1 | It is of my understanding that x86 are preferred over arm |
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| 10:42.09 | Hanonim | is using iptables that more useful/interesting than a simpler frontend such as ufw ? |
| 10:42.24 | Hanonim | for filtering capabilities |
| 10:42.35 | noqnio1 | no you just lack the geekcred with a gui |
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| 10:46.18 | Hanonim | *ufw from the terminal |
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| 10:47.07 | epsilon | if ufw is offering you everything you need, just stick with it, nothing wrong with it |
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| 10:48.14 | Hanonim | epsilon: well, i'm learning about security so i'm wondering if by using ufw instead of iptables i leave out somehting important |
| 10:48.33 | rly | Hanonim: that's not really how it works. |
| 10:48.51 | epsilon | if you are learning and working with shell anyway, go ahead with iptables, there is such big difference |
| 10:49.09 | epsilon | *no such big difference |
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| 10:50.00 | rly | Speaking of iptables. Is there anyone who built an API where iptables is just a backend? |
| 10:50.18 | Hanonim | rly: what do you mean, it's not really how it works ? |
| 10:50.47 | rly | Hanonim: you should first learn about the concepts and then you can apply those in specific tools. |
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| 10:51.19 | rly | Hanonim: for example, I never use iptables in my daily work anymore (and that's like that for a few years now). |
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| 10:51.53 | rly | Hanonim: as such, if the intention is that you want to convert your skills into money at some point, this would likely be a bad strategy. |
| 10:52.41 | rly | Hanonim: and, if you really cared about security, you would analyze the implementation, not the interface, I suppose. |
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| 10:55.17 | Hanonim | yes |
| 10:55.21 | Hanonim | one thing at a time |
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| 10:57.11 | Teststst | Where can I see what packages the .iso dvd images contains? |
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| 10:57.44 | puzzlingWeirdo | Hanonim: UFW or firewalld if you just want a firewall. learn iptables if you want to learn security - you will inevitably have to learn networking - specifically tcpip |
| 10:58.07 | puzzlingWeirdo | Teststst: mount it |
| 10:58.48 | mate_ | Can someone please point to a stable package allowing to pass traffic from selected applications via socks5 proxy ? I've installed Dante on my VPS for the socks5 server. |
| 10:58.50 | puzzlingWeirdo | Teststst: mount -t iso9660 /iso /dir |
| 10:59.07 | Teststst | puzzlingWeirdo: Without downloading? |
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| 10:59.22 | puzzlingWeirdo | you have to dowload it.. |
| 10:59.23 | Teststst | Thought there was some webpage for this but can't find it |
| 10:59.47 | Teststst | ok |
| 10:59.51 | puzzlingWeirdo | what do you mean? check the contents of an iso cross-domain? |
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| 11:01.01 | puzzlingWeirdo | mate_: what do you mean? force connections through a socks proxy? |
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| 11:03.36 | Hanonim | puzzlingWeirdo: thanks |
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| 11:07.38 | Teststst | puzzlingWeirdo: Ok I downloaded the dvd isos. What do I write in sources files so I can use them from synaptic? |
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| 11:12.55 | puzzlingWeirdo | Teststst: what are you trying to do? |
| 11:14.01 | Teststst | puzzlingWeirdo: I wish to install gnome boxes from dvd iso (if it is avaliable on any of the dvd images) |
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| 11:16.36 | veek | anyone try configuring xterm-colors? i'm trying to match ansi with xterm's 255 colors but i find that invariably some colors blend in - the best i could do was 878787 (i printed them all out and painfully scanned the swatches) is there a better way? do you need all the ansi colors to display? |
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| 11:17.24 | puzzlingWeirdo | why are you trying to install it from the dvd? |
| 11:18.41 | Pr0metheus | I have setup a chrooted sftp server in order to be able to upload in /var/www/html but I have a problem with write access (no write access). I googled and people suggest to add the sftp user to www-data but others say this is not a good thing to (security reasons) without suggesting an alternative. Any comments on this? |
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| 11:19.39 | puzzlingWeirdo | Pr0metheus: log into the ftp server as a user who has write priveleges? |
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| 11:20.13 | puzzlingWeirdo | Teststst: see above |
| 11:20.28 | Pr0metheus | puzzlingWeirdo yes |
| 11:20.42 | xand | Pr0metheus: the www-data user/group should not have write access to that directory |
| 11:20.55 | xand | Pr0metheus: create a group, give it write access, add your sftp user to the group |
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| 11:21.30 | xand | or if only that user will update things in there, change its owner |
| 11:21.51 | Pr0metheus | xand if I change the owner won't I mess with apache? |
| 11:22.10 | xand | the owner should be root by default... |
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| 11:22.26 | xand | and no |
| 11:22.58 | Pr0metheus | xand ok let me take a look |
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| 11:23.08 | Teststst | puzzlingWeirdo: I won't have any internet connection so I need to download it directly from the dvd |
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| 11:25.26 | puzzlingWeirdo | Teststst: then run a search in the directory where the dvd is mounted: find /mnt/iso -name gnome-boxes*.deb |
| 11:26.04 | puzzlingWeirdo | Teststst: you know you can download the package with apt, and put it onto a usb stick |
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| 11:29.02 | Teststst | puzzlingWeirdo: ye got it now, thanks. |
| 11:29.34 | puzzlingWeirdo | Teststst: http://bit.ly/2lBjz1K |
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| 11:29.58 | puzzlingWeirdo | you will probably also need to install dependencies - they don't run by themselves |
| 11:31.27 | Teststst | puzzlingWeirdo: They should be on the same dvd iso I think, atleast on one of them? |
| 11:33.39 | puzzlingWeirdo | all of them yes, but i think the extensions mentioned in the link will archive all the dependencies for you |
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| 11:34.32 | Teststst | puzzlingWeird: Isn't there a chanse for man in middle attack when you download this way? |
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| 11:36.09 | puzzlingWeirdo | if they're downloaded via apt then they will be from the official repositories |
| 11:36.15 | puzzlingWeirdo | so they will be signed |
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| 11:36.26 | puzzlingWeirdo | you can check the signatures |
| 11:36.34 | puzzlingWeirdo | not sure how though |
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| 11:37.47 | Teststst | puzzlingWeirdo: To be 100% sure think installing from dvd is most safest. |
| 11:38.42 | Teststst | Teststst: anyway, I'm on cinnamon de now and I don't have this app "disks" that is in gnome enviroment. Do you know what this is called in synaptic so I can download it? Tried "disks" but can't find it. |
| 11:38.53 | Teststst | Teststst: I need it to formate my usb stick |
| 11:39.20 | towo` | there is no need for a special app |
| 11:39.30 | towo` | use mkfs in terminal |
| 11:39.53 | puzzlingWeirdo | ^ |
| 11:40.00 | Teststst | thank you =D |
| 11:40.17 | puzzlingWeirdo | it will be part of the DE Teststst |
| 11:40.41 | puzzlingWeirdo | "disks" - what does it do? can't it be done via the terminal? |
| 11:42.28 | towo` | tha mackage is gnome-disk-utility |
| 11:42.32 | towo` | grr |
| 11:42.40 | towo` | the package |
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| 11:45.23 | puzzlingWeirdo | is there anyway to perform a reverse dependency check on a standalone debian package? |
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| 11:59.48 | klys | puzzlingweirdo, apt-cache showpkg package; or if it is not installed, mkdir x; cd x; ar x ../package.deb; tar zxpvf control.tar.gz; less control; rm *; cd ..; rmdir x; |
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| 12:03.42 | towo` | apt-cache rdepends package |
| 12:04.06 | towo` | no need to download and unpack anything |
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| 12:30.08 | towo` | wrong channel? |
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| 12:46.01 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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| 12:50.06 | spinza | quick question. the live cd works fine on my system, but when i run install it bugs out at the network detection |
| 12:50.25 | spinza | when i run install from a normal netinst it works fine though |
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| 12:50.46 | spinza | this was with both free and nonfree |
| 12:50.55 | ph88 | hi guys, i installed a deb from https://sourceforge.net/projects/mercury/ now i get problems with apt https://paste.fedoraproject.org/552902/17441148/ can anyone help ? |
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| 12:52.56 | towo` | ph88, then edit the crappy postrm-file |
| 12:53.24 | ph88 | towo`, what's the postrm-file ? |
| 12:53.30 | towo` | ph88, and that's why no one suggest clueless install from $random downloaded package |
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| 12:54.15 | ph88 | ya problem was that there wasn't an official package and it's a self-bootstrapping compiler .. but now i compiled a new version with the crappy package and i intend to make a good working package out of it |
| 12:54.33 | towo` | ph88, /var/lib/dpkg/info/mercury.postrm |
| 12:55.18 | ompaul | does this warrant !dontbreakdebian? |
| 12:55.28 | ompaul | !dontbreakdebian |
| 12:55.28 | dpkg | hmm... dont break debian is https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 12:55.43 | ph88 | towo`, what's bad about this file? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/552905/17732148/ |
| 12:56.15 | towo` | ph88, kidding? ask the maintainer of that package |
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| 12:56.27 | ph88 | maintainers are not available .. |
| 12:56.33 | ph88 | i just want to get rid of the package now |
| 12:56.48 | BluesKaj | yeah. I found the graphical installer got the screen messed up and became unreadable if the mouse was used , the regular install worked great |
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| 12:56.50 | ompaul | ph88: read the don't break debian page linked to |
| 12:56.51 | towo` | then add exit 0 in line 3 |
| 12:56.58 | ph88 | ok |
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| 12:58.04 | ph88 | thanks very much towo` :D :D |
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| 12:59.45 | ph88 | i follow this guide to make a new package http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html is this the right guide ? |
| 13:00.08 | ph88 | are there any good software i can use to help with making a good package ? |
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| 13:03.11 | ph88 | towo`, i searched my system for all remaining files after the uninstall there is still /var/lib/dpkg/info mercury.postrm and mercury.list should i remove them ? |
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| 13:06.09 | newcoder | Is it possible get kernel 4.9 in debian jessie? |
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| 13:07.30 | TomTomTosch | ,kernels |
| 13:07.32 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.10.0-rc6-686-pae (4.10~rc6-1~exp2); sid: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.6-3); stretch: 4.9.0-1-686-pae (4.9.6-3); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.9.2-2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.39-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.84-1) |
| 13:07.38 | TomTomTosch | newcoder: https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 13:08.02 | ph88 | i will try debreate to create a new package, is that good software ? |
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| 13:08.22 | ompaul | newcoder: do you need a new kernel? |
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| 13:09.43 | newcoder | ompaul: I want to use kernel 4.9 |
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| 13:09.58 | newcoder | Any problem if I use jessie-backports? |
| 13:10.06 | towo` | no |
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| 13:11.47 | newcoder | p linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae - Linux 4.9 for modern PCs (signed) |
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| 13:11.53 | newcoder | What is .bpo? |
| 13:12.17 | ompaul | would it be back port ... |
| 13:12.25 | towo` | bacports.org |
| 13:12.31 | ompaul | there is no reason to run it unless you have dependencies for it |
| 13:12.55 | ompaul | the kernels get security patches as they arrive |
| 13:13.15 | klys | towo` is that a typo |
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| 13:13.57 | towo` | it is |
| 13:14.00 | klys | k |
| 13:14.22 | newcoder | aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae , any problem with this command? |
| 13:14.45 | towo` | only if you have 3rd party kernel modules in use |
| 13:15.08 | newcoder | I have this: p linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae - Linux 4.9 for modern PCs (signed) |
| 13:15.22 | newcoder | I have this: 3.16.0-4-686-pae now, nothing else |
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| 13:16.40 | newcoder | Is there any risk using linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae ? |
| 13:16.45 | newcoder | in debian jessie |
| 13:16.49 | newcoder | Will the system break? |
| 13:17.07 | nkuttler | you tell us |
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| 13:18.28 | newcoder | I don't know. Just installed it. |
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| 13:21.01 | newcoder | Has anyone used linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae? |
| 13:21.07 | newcoder | Does anyone use linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae? |
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| 13:22.02 | TomTomTosch | grub lets you switch back to the old kernel if things don't work. |
| 13:22.26 | newcoder | grub added new entry for linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae |
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| 13:22.30 | klys | i'm using a custom compile of linux-4.9.8 and the only flaw I have encountered is that I cannot access my SATA disk |
| 13:23.00 | newcoder | klys: May be you didn't compile any drivers for SATA disk |
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| 13:23.24 | newcoder | klys: SATA hard disk drivers are available in kernel |
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| 13:23.41 | klys | well I sort of can access it, just that I can't mount the partitions nor mkfs any partitions. it will still work with fdisk/gdisk. |
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| 13:24.26 | newcoder | klys: ntfs-3g to mount ntfs partitions? Does gparted work? |
| 13:24.44 | klys | ntfs and ntfs-3g don't work, gparted does work |
| 13:25.14 | newcoder | klys: Is ntfs , fuse compiled from kernel source? |
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| 13:25.26 | klys | ntfs and fuse are part of the kernel, yes |
| 13:25.29 | newcoder | Is the package for mkfs installed? |
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| 13:25.54 | klys | newcoder, I ran mkdosfs on /dev/sda1 and it came back with an error stating it could not access the disk |
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| 13:31.11 | newcoder | Booted with 4.9.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae , didn't see any problem. |
| 13:31.41 | newcoder | If I do aptitude update;aptitude dist-upgrade; will it install packages from jessie-backports now? |
| 13:31.50 | towo` | no |
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| 13:32.26 | newcoder | Why not? jessie-backports is in sources.list |
| 13:32.32 | towo` | and? |
| 13:32.49 | towo` | jessie-backports has a lower pinning by default |
| 13:33.07 | newcoder | What is lower pinning? |
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| 13:33.16 | towo` | read the apt docu |
| 13:33.40 | newcoder | ,jessie-backports |
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| 13:34.05 | newcoder | Which doc? |
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| 13:35.00 | TomTomTosch | man apt_preferences for example. |
| 13:35.01 | towo` | what's your problem? |
| 13:35.31 | towo` | if you want all packages from backports, specigfy it |
| 13:35.39 | newcoder | All backports are deactivated by default (i.e. the packages are pinned to 100 by using ButAutomaticUpgrades: yes in the Release files. If you want to install something from backports run: |
| 13:35.40 | towo` | *specify |
| 13:35.56 | newcoder | aptitude -t jessie-backports install "package" |
| 13:36.20 | towo` | you could even run apt dist-upgrade -t jessie-backports |
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| 13:37.19 | newcoder | No, I don't need jessie-backports now, I needed it to install kernel4.9, I'm going to remove jessie-backports from sources.list now. |
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| 13:37.57 | towo` | newcoder, what you say does not make many sense |
| 13:38.21 | towo` | there is no need for removing the backports-repo |
| 13:38.56 | towo` | and if you want updates for your backports-kernel, you should really let backports in your surces |
| 13:39.17 | newcoder | What other packages should I install from backports? |
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| 13:42.46 | towo` | newcoder, why should anyone here know that? |
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| 13:46.20 | LostSoul | Hi |
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| 13:46.27 | LostSoul | I wanted to ask how to connect nginx as rev proxy + apache with php |
| 13:46.29 | LostSoul | Am I right that libapache2-mod-php5 is not a way to do this when I use ngix as rev proxy? |
| 13:46.32 | LostSoul | Do I need to use php-fpm in apache? |
| 13:47.12 | klys | what's a rev proxy? apache2 is a different web server from nginx. |
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| 13:51.14 | nkuttler | LostSoul: it's irrelevant what runs in front of apache |
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| 13:57.08 | ph88 | when creating a deb package .. what's a good directory to put documentation (pdf files) ?? |
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| 13:58.46 | LostSoul | nkuttler: I don't know why my php is not working with apache2 |
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| 14:05.57 | LostSoul | Without nginx it works, when I tried to setup nginx as proxy for apache .. php stopped to working |
| 14:06.00 | LostSoul | I have no idea how to debug it |
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| 14:06.17 | adriano44 | Hi , i have a 403 forbidenn error on my website anyone know apache here an can PM me ? |
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| 14:06.21 | anddam | hello |
| 14:06.39 | ompaul | LostSoul: are they on the same computer? |
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| 14:08.00 | ompaul | klys: kind of a misleading term - basically it is a buffer in front of the main server - generally used for filtering the incoming connections to specific urls. |
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| 14:09.18 | ompaul | klys: the front server faces the internet, it also has knowledge of what the back end web server is, by where it is, port and the like, I used it at one point put sslcerts with lots of filtering on the front side and hid a very insecure server behind it. |
| 14:10.13 | ompaul | LostSoul: I asked you, are they both on the same machine? |
| 14:10.22 | klys | thx ompaul |
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| 14:10.48 | AlexLikeRock | adriano44, 403 , possible its error at permissions at folder to write |
| 14:10.54 | AlexLikeRock | must be a 755 |
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| 14:11.40 | mickael_ | Hello, is there a way to make debian to not automatically enable services on install ? All I could find was about disabling unwanted services using systemctl or the good 'ol update-rc, but nothing about making that the default behavior |
| 14:12.02 | ompaul | mickael_: not really. |
| 14:12.22 | ompaul | mickael_: debian philosophy is, you installed it by choice, you must want it. |
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| 14:13.01 | nkuttler | mickael_: which probem are you trying to solve? |
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| 14:13.05 | mickael_ | I understand |
| 14:13.24 | mickael_ | nkuttler: i'd like the services not to be run automatically with default config |
| 14:13.25 | adriano44 | @AlexLikeRock |
| 14:13.40 | mickael_ | well, not started automatically, period |
| 14:13.45 | AlexLikeRock | hi |
| 14:14.02 | nkuttler | mickael_: on your personel desktop? or are you handling more than one machine? |
| 14:14.09 | nkuttler | or are you installing them? |
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| 14:14.23 | mickael_ | I handle multiple debian machines |
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| 14:14.39 | nkuttler | mickael_: sounds like you want a config management tool |
| 14:15.27 | adriano44 | i want to redirect *******.ovh in /home/*****/public/srv_apache and test.********.ovh in /home/sen . i have already my DNS and i have broken my apache configuration |
| 14:15.31 | AlexLikeRock | adriano44, do you check LOGs APACHE ? |
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| 14:15.34 | mickael_ | lol no I don't handle enough machines for this pain. All have different configs and such |
| 14:15.36 | adriano44 | someone can help me ? |
| 14:15.49 | mickael_ | it was more about a general question |
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| 14:16.02 | AlexLikeRock | what say logs ? adriano44 |
| 14:16.20 | squirrel | i'm trying to restart sshd with a config that has an error in it. `service ssh restart` doesn't give me an error, while `service sshd restart` does. i only have `/etc/systemd/system/sshd.service`, i don't have `ssh` in `/etc/init.d`. can i somehow see what the system is doing when i do `service ssh restart`? |
| 14:16.27 | adriano44 | @adriano44, do you check LOGs APACHE ? |
| 14:16.27 | adriano44 | How can i check apache log ? |
| 14:16.31 | nkuttler | mickael_: i use config management at home, for four boxes. just saying |
| 14:16.31 | adriano44 | fail srv |
| 14:16.36 | mickael_ | I hoped there was an undocumented "systemcl disable-autostart" command or something :) |
| 14:16.44 | adriano44 | sry* |
| 14:16.57 | mickael_ | ctl* |
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| 14:18.10 | mickael_ | nkuttler: well, could you point me at some doc or something ? Maybe it's worth knowing about this :) |
| 14:18.57 | adriano44 | https://thepasteb.in/p/76hE4krvgXqtV |
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| 14:19.11 | nkuttler | mickael_: i think the easiest option would be to write a short ansible playbook that installes the services, and disables or configures them |
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| 14:19.23 | adriano44 | @alexlikerock are you here ? |
| 14:19.52 | mickael_ | thanks, i'll look about ansible ! |
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| 14:22.58 | AlexLikeRock | any one to help adriano44 |
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| 14:23.30 | AlexLikeRock | #httpd |
| 14:24.02 | AlexLikeRock | adriano44, go to apache channel to ask ---> #httpd |
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| 14:26.52 | adriano44 | @alex i cannt send message :/ |
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| 14:27.51 | daimon | hello everyone. I'm messing with etherwake and wakeonlan |
| 14:28.42 | daimon | although I followed the documentation's steps nothing happens on the remote sleeping beauty |
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| 14:29.47 | daimon | can anybody help? |
| 14:29.49 | paowz__ | hello there ! I'm running Jessie-8 with kernel 3.16. For some USB issues, I'd like to test another kernel. I then 'apt-get install' kernel 4.9, thing is, Gnome won't start.. dmesg doesn't tell me much about what's happening, it hungs with a black screen..any clue ? |
| 14:30.32 | daimon | startx? |
| 14:30.53 | paowz__ | startx shall be run as usual.. |
| 14:31.11 | paowz__ | I mean, I don't have to typie it myself |
| 14:31.14 | paowz__ | *type |
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| 14:31.54 | daimon | if startx runs it could be an initialization issue. Which WM have you installed? |
| 14:32.04 | adriano44 | i have a problen in #httpd someone can help me ? |
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| 14:32.56 | adriano44 | i want to redirect *******.ovh in /home/*****/public/srv_apache and test.********.ovh in /home/sen . i have already my DNS and i have broken my apache configuration can you help me in #httpd |
| 14:33.58 | nkuttler | adriano44: please don't ask for people to join other channels.. |
| 14:34.07 | adriano44 | Sry |
| 14:36.14 | nkuttler | adriano44: btw, your paste was quite unreadable, and points to what looks like a ruby error anyway |
| 14:36.23 | daimon | there will be a .conf where setup your public folder path. AFAIR is a xml based file |
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| 14:37.46 | daimon | try httpd.conf and change <Directory> options |
| 14:38.06 | paowz__ | daimon, this is the Gnome |
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| 14:43.53 | jasonwc | Hello, I have been running a Debian Wheezy (7) storage server since Oct 2014, using Samba to host files and stream multimedia content to Windows and Linux clients. I am running the latest version available from debian-packports - 4.1.17. I never had any issues until I upgraded my main desktop to Windows 10. I then started receiving intermittent messages about a "panic or segfault" in Samba |
| 14:43.53 | jasonwc | . For example, this is one of the latest error messages: http://pastebin.com/Hw216j1L. Is this a known issue, and if so, would it be resolved with a more recent version of Samba? |
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| 14:47.29 | adriano44 | Okay, i have a2ensite all my vhost and i have a 403 error |
| 14:47.46 | adriano44 | anyone has got a solution |
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| 14:57.50 | LostSoul | ompaul: Yes |
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| 14:57.56 | LostSoul | Both are on same machine |
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| 15:03.18 | LostSoul | Ok, it works now |
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| 15:04.29 | LostSoul | http://paste.debian.net/913832/ |
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| 15:17.46 | hackspirit0 | Hi, should the uefi boot kept enabled or disabled for usb boot |
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| 15:19.23 | hackspirit0 | Anyone |
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| 15:26.28 | AlexLikeRock | hackspirit0, disabled |
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| 15:27.42 | hackspirit0 | AlexLikeRock: I tried keeping it enabled, and the cursor blunking issue gone away |
| 15:28.12 | boser | is that not a configuration problem of the usb bootloader? |
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| 15:29.38 | hackspirit0 | I am not sure :( |
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| 15:33.07 | petn-randall | hackspirit0: It should be enabled, or, if you have other OSes installed, left untouched. |
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| 15:38.55 | LostSoul | LOL, I don't know why but my old config works too now.. man |
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| 15:47.31 | AlexLikeRock | hackspirit0, are you n sure than USB its first ? |
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| 15:53.52 | boser | can you select with <F12> the boot device? |
| 15:55.23 | AlexLikeRock | or F11 |
| 15:55.29 | AlexLikeRock | or F9 |
| 15:55.49 | AlexLikeRock | depend of the BIOS/Mother Board |
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| 15:57.36 | ompaul | LostSoul: so in ports and out ports need to be different |
| 15:58.28 | ompaul | LostSoul: best practice would have a vm |
| 15:59.17 | ompaul | LostSoul: think 80 on the outside (local network) to something else internally |
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| 16:00.11 | ompaul | LostSoul: outside -> 80 NGINX connects to some other port say 7777 on the apache <---> 7777 Apache |
| 16:00.36 | ompaul | LostSoul: NGINX is really simple to configure - but you can't have both of them on 80 |
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| 16:01.18 | ompaul | you will need a firewall rule to keep all the 7777 from the outside world better if it is on a different ip and not reachable from off the machine |
| 16:01.35 | ompaul | LostSoul: that should be enough to get you started |
| 16:03.03 | LostSoul | ompaul: I don't know but I must have done something wrong |
| 16:03.25 | LostSoul | I've reversed setting .. I've even used different VM and I was able to use it with success |
| 16:03.36 | LostSoul | I don't know what I've set up or installed, hard to say atm |
| 16:04.02 | LostSoul | ompaul: I know both can't work on port 80 |
| 16:04.03 | ompaul | LostSoul: hard to do nmap ip x and nmap ip y? ;-) |
| 16:04.23 | LostSoul | I followed some tutorial on the web .. |
| 16:04.24 | ompaul | LostSoul: I don't know what you know, and I really don't know what you don't know. ;-) |
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| 16:04.37 | ompaul | I know this, I know very little. |
| 16:04.43 | LostSoul | To be more claar X number of tutorial on how to do it were similar so.. I didn't get it why it was not working |
| 16:04.51 | LostSoul | I guess some default setting in apache or nginx |
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| 16:05.26 | LostSoul | ompaul: Network part of OS is not my strongest side :P |
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| 16:07.21 | ompaul | LostSoul: kind of important to learn something. I strongly suggest you draw a picture of what you think is happening and then examine the configs and you will find that there is no magic involved, it is all very straight forward at some level. http://web.mit.edu/adorai/www/seuss-technical-writing.html :-) |
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| 16:08.04 | ompaul | packet in on port n - mapped to ip somewhere else and other socket |
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| 16:11.12 | irtouv | good day #debian. I have an extra screen attached to my computer I wish to use merely to display system status and health. can you give me recommendations on software for that matter? either terminal or graphical tools are fine. |
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| 16:19.20 | hackspirit0 | Hello there back again. I got this while installing debian on usb what to do next? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/V6zwpK3Z/IMG_20170211_214445189.jpg |
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| 16:20.26 | likcoras | irtouv: what about glances? Terminal-only, and monitors pretty much everything you'd need. |
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| 16:24.07 | jasonwc | I am trying to rebuild samba from the Jessie source packages in a Wheezy VM. I changed the debian/control file to allow the wheezy/backports version of libldb-dev, but when I run apt-get build-dep samba, it still complains that my version of libldb-dev can't satisfy version requirements. Do I need to do something after modifying debian/control to have apt use the new file? |
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| 16:25.46 | irtouv | likcorasthat looks good. thanks! |
| 16:26.00 | irtouv | likcoras that looks good. thanks! |
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| 16:28.38 | AlexLikeRock | apt-get -t backports install libldb-dev , jasonvw |
| 16:28.49 | AlexLikeRock | or some like that |
| 16:28.58 | LostSoul | Thank you ompaul |
| 16:29.37 | jasonvw | I think you meant jasonwc AlexLikeRock ;) |
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| 16:29.57 | missmbob | jasonwc: it's not checking your control file. it checks what the repository says. |
| 16:30.09 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
| 16:30.21 | AlexLikeRock | apt-get -t backports install libldb-dev , jasonwc |
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| 16:30.38 | jasonwc | AlexLikeRock Yup, I already did that. |
| 16:31.15 | AlexLikeRock | jasonwc, download manual https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libldb-dev&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all&sourceid=mozilla-search |
| 16:31.25 | AlexLikeRock | and all dependencies |
| 16:31.56 | jasonwc | Wouldn't it have installed all its dependencies when I used apt-get -t wheezy-backports install libldb-dev? |
| 16:32.17 | missmbob | for version 1.1.17 sure. |
| 16:32.28 | missmbob | you need to backport jessie's 1.1.20 |
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| 16:34.12 | jasonwc | missmbob: Is that actually necessary to build Samba? The Debian Administrator's manual says, "There is no automated way to determine if a dependency is real or only specified to guarantee that the build should only be attempted with the latest version of a library â this is the only available way to force an autobuilder to use a given package version during build, which is why Debian |
| 16:34.12 | jasonwc | maintainers frequently use strictly versioned build-dependencies." |
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| 16:34.33 | jasonwc | I guess the answer is you won't know unless you try :P |
| 16:36.05 | missmbob | it's what the maintainer says. i'd say they'd know better than us |
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| 16:37.17 | sIRwa2 | does debian support sata multiplier out of the box? |
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| 16:43.40 | missmbob | sIRwa2: yes. linux has has sata multiplier support for a really long time. should just woke |
| 16:43.43 | missmbob | work* |
| 16:44.19 | sIRwa2 | oke, dont see any sdX showing up. |
| 16:44.35 | sIRwa2 | maybe should start with one drive at a time |
| 16:45.02 | missmbob | be looking at your dmesg as you plug/unplug |
| 16:45.25 | sIRwa2 | yes. that was my next step :) |
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| 16:45.27 | sIRwa2 | tnx |
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| 17:26.11 | Lufy | Hi, I have a nodejs problem. It says Error: Cannot find module xmlrpc/lib/deserializer. What should I do ? Thanks |
| 17:27.10 | AlexLikeRock | hi Monkey D. Lufy |
| 17:28.17 | nkuttler | Lufy: sounds like a question for #node.js |
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| 17:28.33 | Lufy | Is there one ? Ok thanks |
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| 17:35.15 | irtouv | is it possible to show simultaneously X and a console in a multimonitor intel graphics system? |
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| 17:37.15 | petn-randall | irtouv: Probably not. You can simply open a terminal emulator, though. |
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| 17:43.18 | jhutchins | Actually... it should be possible to have X ignore a display. |
| 17:43.40 | jhutchins | Running off the same chipset might be difficult. |
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| 18:24.27 | eugenmayer1 | does resize2fs /dev/mydev resize to the maximum available size? |
| 18:24.34 | eugenmayer1 | (so without size paramter) |
| 18:26.18 | triski | eugenmayer1, The size parameter specifies the requested new size of the filesystem. |
| 18:26.18 | triski | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.18 | triski | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.34 | eugenmayer1 | so there is no way to do like 'btrfs filesystem resize max' |
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| 18:28.22 | triski | i don't know about btrfs, just sent you the information of "man resize2fs" |
| 18:28.28 | atrapado_ | If size parameter is not specified, it |
| 18:28.29 | atrapado_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:30.05 | triski | atrapado_, yes it seems so, but explained in a different manner |
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| 18:30.27 | eugenmayer1 | thats how i also got it atrapado_ thank you |
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| 18:55.02 | squirrel | i'm trying to restart sshd with a config that has an error in it. `service ssh restart` doesn't give me an error, while `service sshd restart` does. i only have `/etc/systemd/system/sshd.service`, i don't have `ssh` in `/etc/init.d`. can i somehow see what the system is doing when i do `service ssh restart`? |
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| 19:02.24 | somiaj | squirrel: use systemctl to see what is going on, 'systemctl status ssh' for instant |
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| 19:04.37 | squirrel | somiaj: okay this gives some info, it says it's loading `/lib/systemd/system/ssh.service`. this file has the same contents as `/etc/systemd/system/sshd.service` |
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| 19:04.53 | squirrel | `systemctl status sshd` gives the same result |
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| 19:05.24 | squirrel | this is not very helpful :| |
| 19:05.41 | n-iCe | hi |
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| 19:23.42 | LtL | squirrel: /etc/systemd/system/sshd.service is a symlink to /lib/systemd/system/ssh.service .. so whats the problem? |
| 19:24.42 | squirrel | LtL: the problem is that `service ssh restart` doesn't give me an error, while `service sshd restart` does, and i want to know why |
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| 19:25.43 | plantfood | i think `sshd` is a centos thing ? |
| 19:25.50 | CuSn | no |
| 19:25.51 | LtL | squirrel: probably because its running already, can't say without trying myself. does it not work? |
| 19:26.12 | CuSn | plantfood: sshd is an ssh thing. Its the deamon that allows ssh logins to happen |
| 19:26.32 | LtL | squirrel: sshd is the daemon |
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| 19:26.48 | LtL | yeah, what CuSn said. squirrel |
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| 19:26.56 | plantfood | cusn: yes i know, but when it's called through systemctl on debian, it seems the service file is named 'ssh' |
| 19:27.01 | CuSn | but i mispelled damon. |
| 19:27.51 | CuSn | plantfood: systemd, ironically, has caused a number of small ripples, that may be one of them. |
| 19:27.57 | abrotman | squirrel: what's the error? |
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| 19:28.22 | missmbob | CuSn: it actually is spelled daemon |
| 19:28.36 | squirrel | i just put nonsense in the config so that it produces an error |
| 19:28.57 | CuSn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.03 | squirrel | so if ssh is not a service, why does `service ssh restart` works at all? |
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| 19:29.47 | CuSn | ssh is the client that you (user0 uses to do an ssh connection over the net. sshd is the process the responds to ssh connect requests on a system where ssh connects are allowed |
| 19:30.00 | CuSn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.31 | plantfood | basically, they may have misnamed 'sshd' as 'ssh' |
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| 19:30.36 | squirrel | well this doesn't answer the question |
| 19:30.53 | CuSn | <blah>d is the generic name for a server that provides service <blah> |
| 19:31.19 | CuSn | as the d implies deamon |
| 19:31.32 | LtL | squirrel: why do you put 'nonsense' in a system file, that's my question. |
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| 19:32.51 | squirrel | LtL: to make the service command produce an error |
| 19:33.09 | LtL | squirrel: congratulations |
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| 19:33.53 | LtL | squirrel: don't fix what's not broken. |
| 19:33.54 | squirrel | you know, it's frustrating to not know if the service you restarted worked |
| 19:34.22 | squirrel | so when i change the config of any service, i have to first make a bad config to see if the command works at all |
| 19:34.28 | LtL | squirrel: man systemctl ; man journalctl |
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| 19:34.50 | plantfood | systemctl status sshd |
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| 19:35.21 | LtL | squirrel: its pretty simple to ssh localhost to test it. |
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| 19:36.08 | squirrel | a successful connection to ssh doesn't mean successful restart of the service though |
| 19:36.22 | missmbob | checking logs will tell you. but i guess that's hard |
| 19:36.38 | squirrel | i know about the workarounds |
| 19:36.55 | missmbob | instead of restart just stop. then start |
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| 19:37.28 | squirrel | so your solution is to ignore the problem and use the workarounds |
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| 19:38.16 | missmbob | i dont think anyone knows what your problem is other than being taught incorrectly |
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| 19:38.55 | LtL | squirrel: workarounds and forensics are two distinctly different things, check your logs. |
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| 19:39.50 | n4dir | i used debootstrap to install debian in a chroot. manpages are installed (manpages and manpages-dev), but whatever "man app" i do, i am told there ain't no manfile for it |
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| 19:40.41 | squirrel | the system log shows correct but rather useless information. it correctly states that there's been an error |
| 19:41.16 | squirrel | i don't know if there's an in-depth log of what systemd does internally |
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| 19:41.33 | LtL | squirrel: possibly due to 'nonsense'? |
| 19:41.47 | squirrel | yup |
| 19:41.57 | LtL | go figure |
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| 19:57.16 | teraflops | squirrel: systemctl status service / journalctl -u service |
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| 20:22.30 | likcoras | Is there a way to see journalctl logs without root? I think I had to add the user to some group, but I don't remember which. |
| 20:22.36 | likcoras | Or is that a really bad idea? |
| 20:24.34 | somiaj | likcoras: I think the group is systemd-journal and that is the point of the group, so it isn't a bad idea |
| 20:24.46 | likcoras | Ah, I see it |
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| 20:26.54 | likcoras | Thanks! |
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| 21:09.40 | missmbob | i find it a bit annoying that bluebird-gtk-theme comes with a background that says xubuntu :P |
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| 21:12.27 | crackotage | any human beings here? |
| 21:12.52 | crackotage | I'm in a huge hole. |
| 21:13.02 | drGspot | we could find some :) |
| 21:13.32 | crackotage | Since upgrading to stretch I haven't been able to boot my computer. |
| 21:13.46 | crackotage | So I tried supergrub 2, which has worked before but didn't |
| 21:13.59 | missmbob | !tell crackotage about debian-next |
| 21:14.02 | crackotage | all that worked was ubuntu's boot repair inside of unetboot |
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| 21:14.20 | crackotage | but this is a support question.... |
| 21:14.30 | missmbob | i know. read what the bot said |
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| 21:17.58 | crackotage | no humans there currently :/ |
| 21:18.23 | missmbob | !wait |
| 21:18.23 | dpkg | If no-one has answered your question to your satisfaction, please wait 10 minutes before asking again. Please don't whine about your problem, about the channel, about Debian, Linux, or anything else. Just wait 10 minutes and then ask again. Ask me about <repeat> and <ask>. |
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| 21:18.49 | missmbob | !patience |
| 21:18.49 | dpkg | The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. |
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| 21:18.55 | missmbob | you know. that |
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| 21:19.39 | crackotage | I do know. And I have immense respect for you and them. |
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| 21:19.51 | crackotage | I've helped people here before myself :) |
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| 21:24.02 | shellclear | hi everyone, someone knows something about cgroup and docker? |
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| 21:25.04 | shellclear | i have a question about memory,swap,cpu quota support |
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| 22:13.00 | Somelauw | If an application tells you it dumped its core. Where to find it? I expect coredumpctl, but it's empty. |
| 22:14.04 | bub_ | somewhere in /var/log |
| 22:14.14 | bub_ | maybe.. if you find out, please tell hehe |
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| 22:17.15 | petemc | the directory the process started from, unless configured otherwise |
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| 22:17.53 | hellyeah | what was the software in linux for downloading music from youtube? |
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| 22:18.01 | missmbob | youtube-dl |
| 22:18.16 | hellyeah | ah thanks |
| 22:18.17 | teraflops | it's not for linux only if you mean yt-dl |
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| 22:18.38 | LtL | hellyeah: get it from the website if you want it to work |
| 22:19.11 | teraflops | ,v youtube-dl |
| 22:19.11 | hellyeah | there is windows version as wel |
| 22:19.12 | judd | Package: youtube-dl on amd64 -- jessie: 2014.08.05-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 2016.12.01-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 2016.12.01-1; sid: 2017.02.07-1 |
| 22:19.23 | teraflops | it's just python |
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| 22:20.12 | hellyeah | but this youtube-dl does not have a gui i guess right? |
| 22:20.22 | bazhang | right |
| 22:20.51 | teraflops | there're wrappers or whatever |
| 22:20.53 | bazhang | why not get the browser plugin for that |
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| 22:21.17 | Somelauw | bub_: /var/lib/systemd/coredump, but coredumpctl should pick them up, because they are unreadable otherwise |
| 22:21.27 | teraflops | I wonder how reliable is the jessie version |
| 22:21.39 | TomTomTo1 | mostly unusable. |
| 22:21.44 | teraflops | hehe |
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| 22:22.25 | teraflops | sometimes I have to git it because google being silly I cannot imagine being stuck in 2014.08.05 version |
| 22:23.04 | missmbob | youtuble-dl -U does just that. git |
| 22:23.10 | budder | my installation media is missing firmware. iwlwifi-7260-9.ucode iwlwifi-7260-8.ucode rtl_nic/rt18168g-3.fw. I installed without this and couldn't get access to the internet |
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| 22:24.22 | petemc | there should be non-free installation media that includes such things |
| 22:24.27 | teraflops | missmbob: never did that way, does it interfere with doing apt-get install the package? |
| 22:24.38 | missmbob | !firmware iso |
| 22:24.38 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 22:24.50 | teraflops | missmbob: I meant dpkg complaining |
| 22:25.04 | missmbob | teraflops: oh if you install via apt it's broken. it'll tell you to blow wind |
| 22:25.09 | teraflops | heh |
| 22:25.40 | budder | dpkg i downloaded installation media from Debian website |
| 22:25.41 | dpkg | budder: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
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| 22:26.03 | missmbob | budder: yeah this is a different special one with firmware built in |
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| 22:26.17 | budder | dpkg: no i am very new to linux |
| 22:26.17 | dpkg | budder: wish i knew |
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| 22:26.27 | missmbob | budder: dpkg is a bot i called for you |
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| 22:27.06 | budder | missmbob: what? why would the installation media from the Debian servers be missing something |
| 22:27.33 | missmbob | budder: oh dear. long story. debian doesnt like non-free things. |
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| 22:30.19 | hellyeah | is there a software for downloading soundcloud song on linux? |
| 22:30.30 | budder | missmbob: is this mentioned somewhere in the documentation? that in order to access wifi you need to download from a different source? |
| 22:30.40 | TomTomTo1 | budder: the official installer only includes software that complies with the DFSG. https://www.debian.org/social_contract.html#guidelines a lot of firmware does not, that's why there isa separate, unofficial installer that includes those. |
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| 22:31.59 | teraflops | hellyeah: other than a web browser? |
| 22:32.11 | hellyeah | like youtube-dl |
| 22:32.16 | hellyeah | from command line |
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| 22:32.31 | hellyeah | thats okey if i download it via browser |
| 22:32.57 | missmbob | hellyeah: actually youtube-dl supports soundclound. and lot of others. https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/supportedsites.html |
| 22:33.11 | teraflops | hellyeah: youtube-dl should work |
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| 22:33.16 | teraflops | that |
| 22:33.26 | hellyeah | thanks |
| 22:33.35 | teraflops | hellyeah: yd-dl supports a gazillion of sites |
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| 22:33.51 | hellyeah | damn |
| 22:33.53 | hellyeah | thats good |
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| 22:35.31 | budder | TomTomTo1: thanks |
| 22:35.39 | budder | missmbob: thanks |
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| 22:37.29 | teraflops | hellyeah: and mpv has a yt-dl hook script |
| 22:37.49 | teraflops | not sure about jessie though |
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| 22:39.55 | budder | missmbob: TomTomTo1 i just loaded that installation media on a USB stick and attempted reinstall but getting the same missing firmware message |
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| 22:42.04 | hellyeah | teraflops: mpv - video player based on MPlayer/mplayer2 ? |
| 22:42.20 | teraflops | yep |
| 22:42.45 | hellyeah | okay |
| 22:42.55 | hellyeah | what is hook script btw sorry for my english? |
| 22:43.05 | missmbob | budder: do you know the exact chipset? |
| 22:43.18 | budder | no |
| 22:43.39 | budder | missmbob: no. what chipset? |
| 22:43.49 | budder | missmbob: amd64 |
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| 22:44.39 | teraflops | hellyeah: e.g mpv https://www.twitch.tv/coscuuu (I picked a random one^) |
| 22:44.43 | missmbob | budder: when you type lspci -nn |grep -i wire what does it say? especially the funny [168c:0032] numbers, what are they? |
| 22:44.50 | awal1 | "diff --side-by-side file1 file2 | colordiff" / "colordiff --side-by-side file1 file2" won't colorize :( won't colorize with --side-by-side |
| 22:44.51 | budder | missmbob: my laptop has a 64 bit cpu and I used the amd64 |
| 22:44.59 | budder | missmbob: where do i type that |
| 22:45.08 | missmbob | budder: in a terminal |
| 22:45.17 | awal1 | how to colorize with --side-by-side option? |
| 22:45.20 | budder | missmbob: how do i open a terminal |
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| 22:45.49 | dTal | type 'xterm' in a terminal :p |
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| 22:46.14 | budder | missmbob: how do i open a terminal from the installation |
| 22:46.18 | missmbob | budder: ctrl+alt+f2 then to get back you ctrl+alt+arrrow to cycle through |
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| 22:46.34 | missmbob | alt+arrow i mean |
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| 22:48.02 | budder | missmbob: 04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 [8086:08b2] (rev c3) |
| 22:48.28 | missmbob | ,pciid 8086:08b2 |
| 22:48.29 | judd | [8086:08b2] is 'Wireless 7260' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:08b2 |
| 22:48.40 | missmbob | huh |
| 22:51.07 | missmbob | budder: i know you're new, but i think you need to use stretch installer which isn't released yet. it's frozen and pretty stable though. want to try? |
| 22:51.17 | missmbob | budder: i dont think you have a choice really. |
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| 22:52.56 | budder | missmbob: i downloaded my installation media from here as linked by dpkg: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/. however, i believe this is what i actually need: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/. right? |
| 22:53.03 | teraflops | awal1: colordiff -yW"`tput cols`" file1 file2 |
| 22:53.35 | budder | missmbob: and i found that page from this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-to-provide-non-free-firmware-files-to-the-debian-jessie-installer-4175542680/ |
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| 22:54.22 | missmbob | budder: i think you need a newer version is all. so i think you should use this iso. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/stretch_di_rc2/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-stretch-DI-rc2-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 22:54.43 | awal1 | teraflops, works great :) Gracias! |
| 22:54.49 | teraflops | de nada ;) |
| 22:55.31 | budder | missmbob: did you see the two cdimage links i posted? it seems as though the second link has the firmware that i'm actually missing while the first one (which i used to make the installation media) has no mention of it |
| 22:56.15 | missmbob | budder: i know. they just have them separate if you want to see what's in the iso. they are included |
| 22:57.41 | budder | missmbob: so what exactly is stretch installer? |
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| 22:58.00 | budder | missmbob: so those two links are actually to the same install?? |
| 22:58.04 | missmbob | budder: much newer kernel, firmware, modules, etc |
| 22:58.31 | missmbob | budder: it's the frozen soonish to be released version |
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| 22:58.46 | budder | missmbob: what kernel specifically? |
| 22:58.52 | missmbob | 4.9 |
| 22:58.57 | budder | no |
| 22:58.58 | budder | sorry |
| 22:59.12 | budder | current stable debian used 3x right? |
| 22:59.15 | missmbob | yes |
| 22:59.37 | budder | that's why i'm attempting to install that one. my cpu is affected by a cstate bug with 4x kernels and on |
| 22:59.44 | missmbob | kind of, anyway. it has 4.9 in jessie-backports |
| 23:00.16 | missmbob | without upgrading to a newer kernel i think you're screwed. buy a new usb wireless |
| 23:00.55 | missmbob | you could just see if 4.9 has fixed your bug. kernels do get fixes |
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| 23:01.47 | somiaj | might also just need to install the kernel microcode from non-free too |
| 23:01.49 | budder | missmbob: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109051 |
| 23:02.16 | missmbob | budder: that's up to 4.2. not 4.9 |
| 23:02.51 | budder | o |
| 23:03.14 | missmbob | and i have to go. good to see somiaj is here. good luck |
| 23:03.17 | budder | missmbob: i'm pretty sure I had several kernels past 4.2 and still was affected by this bug |
| 23:03.34 | budder | missmbob: okay thank you |
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| 23:04.44 | somiaj | budder: I notice that the end of that report people are reporting a patch that works if applied to the 4.9 kernel (unsure if it is in it yet) |
| 23:05.12 | budder | somiaj: i tried that patch and still suffered the freezing |
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| 23:05.46 | somiaj | budder: do you have the kernel micorcode installed. AT this junction have you checked if there is record of this bug in the debian BTS? |
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| 23:06.04 | budder | somiaj: no idea what you are talking about |
| 23:06.13 | budder | somiaj: i'm new |
| 23:06.21 | somiaj | !microcode |
| 23:06.21 | dpkg | Microcode are instructions/structures for implementing high-level machine code within processors. The Linux kernel can load updated microcode on most x86 processors. Microcode patches for Intel and AMD64 CPUs are packaged for Debian as intel-microcode and amd64-microcode respectively; installing the relevant package is recommended to ensure system stability. Ask me about <non-free sources>. http://wiki.debian.org/Microcode |
| 23:06.34 | somiaj | budder: firmware for the cpu |
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| 23:09.22 | budder | somiaj: how about this? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/how-to-provide-non-free-firmware-files-to-the-debian-jessie-installer-4175542680/ |
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| 23:09.51 | somiaj | I'm unsure if that includes the microcode or just firmware for say wifi devices |
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| 23:23.20 | budder | somiaj: i am attemping the instructions on that page |
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| 23:23.25 | budder | i have downloaded the two packages |
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| 23:24.06 | budder | somiaj: i am using a window 10 pc. now that i have downloaded those two packages, what exactly are my next steps? the instructions are a little advanced forme |
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| 23:24.35 | somiaj | !firmware installer |
| 23:24.35 | dpkg | Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. |
| 23:24.40 | somiaj | !firmware images |
| 23:24.40 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 23:24.48 | dvs | firmware iso? |
| 23:24.53 | somiaj | ^^ use that second thing the bot outputed to get a firmware iso. |
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| 23:27.49 | budder | somiaj: i don't understand |
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| 23:28.21 | budder | somiaj: i am trying to extract the two packages into the debian installation media. i am unsure how |
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| 23:28.43 | dvs | budder, those are installation media with the firmware included. |
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| 23:29.31 | somiaj | budder: I gave you a link to an image that has all the non-free firmware included (though unsure if it contains the microcode) |
| 23:29.38 | somiaj | well I had the bot give it |
| 23:29.49 | budder | dvs: i already tried that but installation was still missing the files |
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| 23:30.49 | ttl- | is it possible to boot from an USB flashdrive and load GRUB2 which is on my first hard drive ? |
| 23:31.39 | ttl- | i'm struggling with an acer laptop which won't boot linux from hdd |
| 23:31.49 | ttl- | GPT UEFI |
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| 23:32.00 | budder | somiaj: i already tried that image and it still gave me the same error |
| 23:32.03 | budder | about the missing files |
| 23:32.06 | ttl- | the is no legacy boot option in the bios |
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| 23:33.24 | jasonwc | Is there a way to backport a package from Jessie to Wheezy, where the build process is actually run on Jessie? Otherwise, I need to manually backport all of the build dependencies first, which is rather painful. |
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| 23:34.26 | CeBe | jasonwc: to build a binary, and link it to libaries of a specific version, that version of the library should be available on the system |
| 23:34.49 | CeBe | so I do not think there is an easy way to do this |
| 23:35.15 | CeBe | jasonwc: why do you want to backport something to wheezy? |
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| 23:36.55 | jasonwc | CeBe: I am running Samba from Backports on my Wheezy server serving files and media streaming to Linux and Windows clients, and it had been working perfectly for 2 years. Then I moved my main desktop to Windows 10 and I started getting "panic or segfault in samba" messages. |
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| 23:37.12 | somiaj | jasonwc: you can do it in a chroot, or use a tool like pbuilder |
| 23:37.34 | somiaj | jasonwc: so build a wheezy chroot on your jessie machine, compile inside the chroot, copy the .deb over |
| 23:37.35 | jasonwc | CeBe Yeah, I thought pbuilder was made for this, but the only guide I found was for Ubuntu |
| 23:37.38 | jasonwc | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Rebuilding_a_package |
| 23:37.59 | somiaj | debian wiki has info about pbuilder, sbuild as well. Or you can just manually build a chroot with debootstrap |
| 23:38.46 | jasonwc | Is there a guide for using chroot? I was following the Debian Administrator's Manual for instructions on doing the building but Samba just has too many build dependencies. I ran through about 10 and gave up. |
| 23:38.57 | jasonwc | It mentions pbuilder, but offers no guidance on usage. |
| 23:39.00 | CeBe | jasonwc: https://wiki.debian.org/PbuilderTricks#How_to_build_for_different_distributions |
| 23:39.13 | jasonwc | thanks |
| 23:39.48 | CeBe | I have not read it so not sure it contains all information you need but the title sounds just like what you need |
| 23:40.28 | CeBe | about chroot, there is https://wiki.debian.org/chroot |
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