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| 00:22.31 | siiky | im trying to compile nethack and it complains `lex` is missing, doing `apt-cache search '\<lex\>' | grep '\<lex\>'` i get 5 different entries so im a bit confused... can someone tell me which package (if any) provides lex? |
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| 00:26.53 | Shadow_7 | siiky: can you be more specific? lex.h ? |
| 00:27.19 | loader | siiky: you probably want the flex package |
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| 00:27.22 | siiky | Shadow_7: no, its not a header, its a command |
| 00:28.17 | Shadow_7 | siiky: so apt-file find bin/lex ? looks like flex or flex-old meets the reqs |
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| 00:28.50 | phogg | siiky: when a packaged version exists I recommend apt-get build-dep as a way to satisfy dependencies without much effort. |
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| 00:29.12 | siiky | loader: (y) thank you, flex did it |
| 00:29.25 | siiky | Shadow_7: i didnt know about apt-file :o |
| 00:29.30 | loader | siiky: no problem |
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| 00:30.03 | siiky | phogg: ah build-dep didnt even occur to me |
| 00:30.04 | Shadow_7 | siiky: it's the magic that always brings me back to debian. ubuntu finally got a clue on 16.04+ |
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| 00:30.28 | Shadow_7 | siiky: pkgfile on arch or dnf don't quite have the same certainty |
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| 00:38.33 | Rackham | :) |
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| 01:04.08 | saber_ | hi |
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| 01:04.15 | saber_ | any one here ? |
| 01:04.21 | saber_ | i need some help :] |
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| 01:05.07 | saber_ | ØØ |
| 01:05.36 | borsin | saber_: thanks for letting us know. |
| 01:06.05 | saber_ | i have a proplem with dovecot |
| 01:06.24 | saber_ | Selecting previously unselected package dovecot-imapd. (Reading database ... 18793 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking dovecot-imapd (from .../dovecot-imapd_1%3a2.1.7-7+deb7u1_amd64.deb) ... Setting up dovecot-imapd (1:2.1.7-7+deb7u1) ... locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory Creating config file /etc/dovecot/conf.d/20-imap.conf with new version cp: cannot create regular file `/etc/d |
| 01:06.35 | saber_ | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 01:48.20 | Donquixote | Yo |
| 01:48.27 | Donquixote | Greetings to all of ya |
| 01:49.13 | awal1 | Donquixote, where is Sancho Panza? |
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| 01:49.26 | Donquixote | Sadly, I do not know |
| 01:49.36 | awal1 | and Dulcinea? |
| 01:49.47 | Donquixote | I disabled JavaScript a few hours ago, except for Reddit and Riot |
| 01:50.06 | Donquixote | So far, this was one of the many awesome decisions I made this year |
| 01:50.19 | Donquixote | I installed Icedove to access my E-Mail Client |
| 01:50.25 | phogg | Donquixote: NoScript whitelisting? |
| 01:50.46 | Donquixote | And found that it does support IRC, XMPP and Twitter Chats |
| 01:50.49 | awal1 | xul-ext-noscript |
| 01:50.50 | Donquixote | So awesome |
| 01:50.54 | Donquixote | I use chromium |
| 01:51.06 | Donquixote | That comes with the function to whitelist as default |
| 01:51.16 | Donquixote | I also learned Twitter is fully usable without JS |
| 01:51.18 | phogg | But sadly no request policy |
| 01:51.27 | Donquixote | Wish I would've learned that earlier |
| 01:51.31 | phogg | those twitter guys are good eggs |
| 01:51.34 | Donquixote | Would have spared me some trouble |
| 01:51.47 | Donquixote | Certainly some of the better eggs |
| 01:51.57 | Donquixote | Probably the best Mainstream platform behind Reddit |
| 01:52.24 | Donquixote | I deleted Discord earlier |
| 01:52.32 | Donquixote | Proprietary garbage |
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| 01:54.21 | uub | hi |
| 01:54.36 | uub | rsync works with plain IP addreses - but not with hostnames (that are defined in /etc/hosts) :( |
| 01:54.52 | uub | I first have to resolve the hostname by myself and replace it with its IP address in a rsync command to make it actually work |
| 01:54.53 | uub | why? |
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| 01:56.53 | bibble | uub: are the defined hosts working for other apps ? |
| 01:57.00 | stoned | I switched to debian's zfs packages, but now I can't figure out how to create the pool. I have two 3TB hdd, both were in a ZFS mirror. |
| 01:57.11 | uub | bibble: oh, I just found out that dnsmasq already maps this for me :O and I am using vagrant-hostmanager, too |
| 01:57.15 | uub | probably a strange loopy conflict |
| 01:57.29 | bibble | ah |
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| 01:58.20 | stoned | https://paste2.org/AfDLYfnm |
| 01:59.03 | Donquixote | Can I join an IRC Channel outside of Freenode? |
| 02:00.02 | somiaj | Donquixote: most irc clients can connect to multiple irc servers at the same time. |
| 02:00.13 | somiaj | Donquixote: /connect is the common thing for this |
| 02:00.47 | Donquixote | Connect is not supported |
| 02:00.55 | Donquixote | I guess I'll have to to it manually |
| 02:01.08 | Donquixote|Test | At least that works |
| 02:01.11 | Donquixote|Test | is glad |
| 02:01.18 | Donquixote|Test | I like IRC |
| 02:01.28 | Donquixote|Test | But I don't know many cool channels |
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| 02:02.10 | somiaj | Donquixote|Test: this is more a channel for debian support, you may find #freenode useful for info about freenode, but here it is asked you try to keep conversations focused on debian support. |
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| 02:06.40 | Donquixote|Test | Is Offtopic forbidden when there is nothing else talked about? |
| 02:06.54 | missmbob | yes. for that there's #debian-offtopic |
| 02:07.29 | Donquixote|Test | Oh nice |
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| 02:10.24 | stoned | I'm a bit stuck. I am unsure how to reover my zfs mirror after switching to debian's zfs packages in jessie backports |
| 02:10.32 | stoned | zfs import shows nothing |
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| 02:17.05 | somiaj | stoned: Maybe look into a more focused zfs on linux support, it's still a new filesystem in linux and you may find better support for it elsewhere. |
| 02:17.49 | abrotman | There's a #zfs IIRC? |
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| 02:24.29 | stoned | well |
| 02:24.31 | stoned | doesn't matter now |
| 02:24.34 | stoned | all my data is gone. |
| 02:24.37 | stoned | :( |
| 02:24.46 | stoned | no point in having a mirror, when the mirror itself is gone. |
| 02:25.03 | MadHezzaaah | Haha done that too a couple of years ago .. lost the bitlocker key ... :O |
| 02:26.31 | stoned | no it's just |
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| 02:26.50 | stoned | I did what that guy said this afternoon, export my zfs thing, switch to debian's pcakges, and import my pool |
| 02:26.58 | stoned | I did that and nothing would be listed in import. |
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| 02:27.09 | stoned | i tried to create the mirror again and it overwrote my data. |
| 02:27.26 | stoned | apparantly zfs create -f destroys data |
| 02:27.33 | stoned | *sigh* |
| 02:28.06 | stoned | Most important data is on gitlab anywy. |
| 02:28.20 | stoned | I didn't lost much |
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| 06:39.02 | e1z0 | how, i do make an tag to my source package installation, for example debian have +dfsg-0+deb8u1 or smth similar, i need to put my own tag to the package that i'm creating, is that done only by patching source? |
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| 06:41.30 | somiaj | e1z0: add your own custom debian/changelog entry for your revision. |
| 06:42.09 | e1z0 | but for example i'm building php from source, how can i simply add tag to it's version? |
| 06:42.11 | e1z0 | :| |
| 06:42.55 | e1z0 | do i need to deal with autotools autoconf? |
| 06:42.58 | somiaj | e1z0: How are you building it from source? Just using the source package. As I said make a custom debian/changelog entry in the source before building. |
| 06:43.15 | e1z0 | hmm, will try |
| 06:43.16 | somiaj | in this case you could just add a cusom entery that says * My Custom Rebuild or something lik that |
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| 08:08.07 | choice | Was there some breaking update? One of my machines suddenly replies with "Bad Request Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand." to certain requests. |
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| 08:10.29 | choice | As soon as I do "GET / HTTP/1.0" I get a 400 error back. |
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| 09:11.57 | AndreeeCZ | hello! i am running debian on ARM. I have installed ntp, it is running and the device has internet access |
| 09:12.15 | AndreeeCZ | still it says that it's jan 1st 1970 |
| 09:12.48 | AndreeeCZ | how can i debug this? |
| 09:13.12 | loader | AndreeeCZ: "I have installed ntp, it is running" that sounds like ntp server, not client to me |
| 09:13.30 | AndreeeCZ | oh? |
| 09:13.40 | AndreeeCZ | https://wiki.debian.org/NTP |
| 09:13.57 | AndreeeCZ | 'whis will kep your system date .. actual.. " |
| 09:14.32 | loader | what is the output of ntpq -p ? |
| 09:14.57 | jelly | AndreeeCZ: you will need to set the time first before ntp service takes over |
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| 09:15.28 | jelly | AndreeeCZ: or use -g parameter |
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| 09:16.00 | AndreeeCZ | ntpq -p gives me what looks like a valid value |
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| 09:16.29 | AndreeeCZ | jelly, why is that necessary? |
| 09:17.00 | AndreeeCZ | i mean, what would be the point of that |
| 09:17.12 | jelly | ntpd won't step the time if it's too far from network time |
| 09:17.32 | AndreeeCZ | i see |
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| 09:17.35 | AndreeeCZ | can i force-sync? |
| 09:17.41 | jelly | that's what -g is for. |
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| 09:18.19 | jelly | AndreeeCZ: which debian release is this? Do you have anything in /etc/default/ntp ? |
| 09:18.25 | AndreeeCZ | ntpq -g gives me 'illegal option --g ' |
| 09:18.39 | jelly | that's an option for ntpd, not ntpq |
| 09:20.29 | AndreeeCZ | i did ntpd -g and waited until a minute change and it didnt sync |
| 09:20.32 | AndreeeCZ | stil 1970 |
| 09:20.38 | jelly | AndreeeCZ: which debian release is this? Do you have anything in /etc/default/ntp ? |
| 09:20.46 | AndreeeCZ | jessie |
| 09:21.07 | AndreeeCZ | cat /etc/default/ntp : NTPD_OPTS='-g' |
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| 09:21.48 | AndreeeCZ | ok i have found a solution |
| 09:22.01 | AndreeeCZ | i had to stop the daemon first |
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| 09:22.46 | AndreeeCZ | jelly, thanks for you help |
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| 10:01.47 | jelly | AndreeeCZ: so you already have -g in there, that means ntpd should have stepped the clock at boot time |
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| 10:07.44 | ausinch | Hi All, i cant find much on the net regarding this issue so I will ask here: Last week I upgraded my system and rebooted. Since then I cannot mount cifs. |
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| 10:08.05 | ausinch | My system: /etc/debian_version 7.11 |
| 10:08.07 | ausinch | uname âÂÂa : Linux Server_Name 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.68-1+deb7u2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 10:08.37 | ausinch | The error when mounting: mount error: cifs filesystem not supported by the system |
| 10:08.39 | ausinch | mount error(19): No such device |
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| 10:09.00 | ausinch | I have removed and purged samba & cifs-utils, then reinstalled rebooting after each step, problem still persists. |
| 10:09.23 | ausinch | Can anybody suggest anything else? I donâÂÂt want to rebuild the server (seems to be the only sure fix) as it has a large history of backups on it and incorporates RAID5 and LVMs . . . terabytes of data. |
| 10:11.11 | Shadow_7 | ausinch: do you have the cifs kernel module? /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/fs/cifs.ko |
| 10:11.35 | Shadow_7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:11.42 | jelly | ausinch: 3.2.68-1+deb7u2 is a rather old kernel. Is this a VPS/VM of some sort? |
| 10:12.06 | jelly | 3.2.84-2 is current |
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| 10:19.00 | ausinch | lsmod |grep cifs returns nothing - BINGO |
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| 10:21.50 | ausinch | Shadow_7: I see cifs.ko with ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/fs/cifs/ |
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| 10:21.51 | Shadow_7 | I ran into fs hell long ago when I made a custom ... make localmodconfig ... kernel. Any filesystem that wasn't actively mounted had it's driver build option removed. |
| 10:22.31 | Shadow_7 | ausinch: it should load when you "mount" it. But sometimes the system gets dumb. depmod -a or other catywompus. |
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| 10:23.09 | ausinch | The mounts were present during the upgrade - no special kernel build |
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| 10:25.41 | matteyeux | Hi there I'm looking for an arg for xfce-terminal to run a new term with a *what ever* command in this new term whithout killing the main term |
| 10:25.52 | matteyeux | anyone can help ? |
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| 10:26.51 | jelly | ausinch: which version of linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 package is installed? |
| 10:27.23 | matteyeux | Does it matter ? |
| 10:27.38 | Shadow_7 | ausinch: try modprobe cifs, then try mount ... just a guess though ... also note that --purge removes config files that may not come back when you install again. |
| 10:27.43 | jelly | ausinch: in fact, pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64" and "apt-cache policy" |
| 10:28.36 | ausinch | Shadow_7: ~# modprobe cifs |
| 10:28.38 | ausinch | ERROR: could not insert 'cifs': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 10:29.31 | Shadow_7 | ausinch: any more detail on that in dmesg or /var/log/syslog ... etc |
| 10:29.37 | Donquixote | My JavaScript is disabled now in Chromium. How can I watch Videos on YouTube and other video Platforms? |
| 10:29.38 | matteyeux | like dmesg | grep cifs |
| 10:29.55 | ausinch | jelly: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64: Installed: 3.2.84-2 Candidate: 3.2.84-2 |
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| 10:30.14 | Shadow_7 | ausinch: but looks a bit like a depmod -a type quirk. Or the module just doesn't match the kernel. |
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| 10:31.00 | ausinch | matteyeux: dmesg | grep cifs cifs: Unknown symbol setattr_prepare (err 0) |
| 10:31.07 | jelly | ausinch: you booted some old kernel, not 3.2.84-2, or never rebooted after upgrade. Reboot. |
| 10:31.47 | jelly | Shadow_7: the module from currently installed version does not match old booted kernel, that's right |
| 10:31.57 | ausinch | jelly: after the upgrade i had to power down for building power maintenance |
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| 10:32.14 | jelly | ausinch: then you managed to boot the old kernel anyway somehow. |
| 10:33.29 | ausinch | jelly Shadow_7: ok - this thing is headless. I do have a console on it now and will monitor the choices as it boots. |
| 10:33.33 | jelly | ausinch: perhaps you have multiple /boot directories, one on a separate partition one not |
| 10:34.06 | jelly | in any case, it managed to boot the old kernel which shouldn't exist at all from someplace |
| 10:34.11 | Shadow_7 | or /boot/ is it's own partition and wasn't mounted when you upgraded |
| 10:35.18 | ausinch | i recall years ago I made copies of boot for redundancy - i think it is now booting off one of those |
| 10:35.46 | ausinch | /dev/sdc1 184M 26M 149M 15% /boot - i believe it should be sda1 |
| 10:36.34 | jelly | you can put them all in a md raid1 to keep in sync |
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| 10:38.59 | ausinch | jelly Shadow_7: great detective work guys (two thumbs up) |
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| 10:46.31 | JayCoyote | hello |
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| 10:48.12 | JayCoyote | If I install debian, everything already on this drive goes away, yes? |
| 10:48.43 | nkuttler | JayCoyote: depends on how you partition the disk |
| 10:48.50 | nkuttler | JayCoyote: but assuming yes is a safe bet |
| 10:49.20 | JayCoyote | 'kay. Last time I partitioned a disk was . . . 2005. |
| 10:49.28 | ausinch | jelly Shadow_7: Hmm UUID of /boot is the same as it was a month ago - I will boot and monitor console. Thanks again (y) |
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| 10:50.19 | JayCoyote | thnak you nkuttler |
| 10:50.28 | borsin | JayCoyote: if it's a windows partition you'll probably want to back that up somewhere else first |
| 10:50.42 | JayCoyote | backs up weekly |
| 10:50.59 | Shadow_7 | ausinch: you still might want to extract the package for the latest kernel and cmp the kernel with what's in /boot/ |
| 10:51.10 | Shadow_7 | ausinch: dpkg -x <package>.deb |
| 10:51.27 | Shadow_7 | ausinch: you can clone it from /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 10:51.48 | JayCoyote | iirc, the last time I used debian was on a laptop circa 2009 |
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| 10:51.59 | JayCoyote | used/installed |
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| 10:52.04 | rudolf_ | Hi |
| 10:52.31 | JayCoyote | I'm going to have to think about this some more. Thanks for your time |
| 10:52.33 | rudolf_ | Can someone please tell me the package which contains eigen2 ? |
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| 10:52.52 | rudolf_ | B |
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| 10:53.05 | Shadow_7 | rudolf_: apt-file find eigen2 ... wims-extra-all |
| 10:53.33 | Shadow_7 | eigen2.oef anyway |
| 10:53.53 | rudolf_ | The previous command searches for it? |
| 10:54.11 | Shadow_7 | searches for a file that contains string as a "partial" name |
| 10:54.36 | rudolf_ | Ok..thanks a lot |
| 10:54.37 | Shadow_7 | one of the results ... wims-extra-all: /var/lib/wims/public_html/modules/U1/algebra/oefdiag.fr/src/eigen2.oef |
| 10:54.54 | rudolf_ | Ok |
| 10:55.46 | Shadow_7 | The others have teigen2.dtd or Peigen2.* |
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| 10:57.50 | rudolf_ | Ok..thanks. useful command |
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| 11:20.32 | boser | what is the diffence between a normal boot of debian 8 and if i go into the recovery mode with root-P/W and tip in 'sytemctl default' ? I have the problem, that my system boot until it reach the massage '/dev/sda1/ is clean. The LVM doesn't want to start. Can somebody help me, pls? |
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| 11:25.39 | julius | hi |
| 11:25.55 | julius | wasnt there a command caled "grub-update" or "update-grub" to update the grup config? |
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| 11:26.09 | towo^work | update-frub there is |
| 11:26.19 | towo^work | *update-grub |
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| 11:28.30 | n4dir | "apropos" is a bless, in this case "apropos grub" |
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| 11:29.18 | julius | and grub2 is the current version? |
| 11:29.44 | julius | weird, somehow i dont have grub2 installed anymore |
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| 11:30.03 | Shadow_7 | did you install grub-legacy? |
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| 11:30.32 | julius | not that i know of |
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| 11:30.55 | julius | dpkg -l |grep grub shows nothing |
| 11:30.56 | dpkg | ii |grep grub shows nothing 2.1-5.1 julius's private stamp collection |
| 11:32.05 | julius | oh, the bot recognized that as a command |
| 11:32.40 | Shadow_7 | you could just "dpkg -l grub", the grep is redundant. although it changes a release or two back to only show "installed" things |
| 11:33.02 | julius | ah ok |
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| 11:33.13 | Shadow_7 | And '*grub*' would be better since grub might grab local path contents instead. |
| 11:33.25 | julius | now i instaled it and told it to install to /dev/sda....lets see how that goes |
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| 11:33.50 | julius | what are "local path contents" ? |
| 11:34.13 | Shadow_7 | apt-cache search --names-only grub ...the modern equivalent... although I go a bit more oldschool with dpkg-query --load-avail -l '*grub*', although need dselect update to populate available. |
| 11:34.14 | julius | be right back |
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| 11:35.27 | Shadow_7 | julius: dpkg -l grub ... if you have ./grub or other files ./ninegrubs in your current path, it finds those instead of packages. unless you '*grub*'... probably a bash completion thing |
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| 11:36.52 | Shadow_7 | Hmmm... looks like dpkg -l '*grub*' behaves as it once did now. |
| 11:37.33 | Shadow_7 | might still need dselect update to have the functionality though. |
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| 11:44.49 | julius | grub kinda jumbled my setup together, got two debian versions installed and a third system that is currently corrupt... it looks like grub did setup one entry for every kernel that it found in /boot and did set all roots to the corrupted system |
| 11:45.06 | julius | how do i tell grub to use kenrel xyz with a specific root? |
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| 11:46.40 | Shadow_7 | julius: manually edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg or create custom entries. /etc/grub.d/ or /etc/default/grub |
| 11:46.49 | BluesKaj | HI folks |
| 11:47.19 | Shadow_7 | julius: I often have to do that because I prefer UUIDs. so changing root=/dev/sda1 to root=UUID=....... |
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| 11:47.48 | digup | I have a USB headset plugged in and I'm not getting any sound. I have pulseaudio installed. I can get sound from teamspeak by selecting playback ALSA which then has the headset option; however, pulseaudio doesn't and it seem the system default is pulseaudio for other applications. |
| 11:47.51 | Shadow_7 | although grub has gotten better at things, as long as /etc/fstab uses UUIDs and is correct |
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| 11:48.32 | Shadow_7 | digup: pavucontrol |
| 11:48.46 | remem | anybody hear this solution? |
| 11:48.47 | remem | http://www.debiantutorials.com/install-mysql-server-5-6-debian-7-8/ |
| 11:49.18 | Shadow_7 | solution? to trump presidency? |
| 11:49.52 | remem | no to stable and clear debian |
| 11:50.02 | julius | Shadow_7, so youre saying that: /dev/mapper/t560--vg-ubuntu15.04 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 this will not work for grub? |
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| 11:50.51 | Shadow_7 | julius: depends on your setup... I tend to use usb sticks and those work best with LABEL or UUID |
| 11:51.14 | BluesKaj | digup, you should have heaphone output ctl with pulseaudio as well as as alsamixer |
| 11:51.26 | Shadow_7 | the /dev/ 's work... until you move the usb stick |
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| 11:52.41 | julius | Shadow_7, its a laptop with one drive |
| 11:52.50 | jelly | julius: /dev/mapper/ lvm paths are not dependent on order of disks, so using root=/dev/mapper/t560--vg-ubuntu15.04 will most likely work |
| 11:53.06 | jelly | sticks and stones won't break that |
| 11:53.12 | BluesKaj | digup, on desktops you can use the 3mm connections for phones as well as other devices |
| 11:53.33 | digup | BluesKaj: I can change the default output device under the KDE options, but none of the listed devices playback sound. I don't see the same option that ALSA has on teamspeak. |
| 11:53.56 | julius | jelly, well...grub generated this for me: https://bpaste.net/show/1d1f0f6e0ed6 |
| 11:54.09 | julius | jelly, as you can see...they all point to a different root |
| 11:54.32 | julius | and its just a old partition, i am really on debian |
| 11:54.34 | Shadow_7 | digup: pavucontrol. It's the mixer for pulseaudio, when things change it assumes you only want to use what you previously used, so you have to tell it otherwise. |
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| 11:54.56 | jelly | julius: are you sharing one /boot filesystem among multiple OS installs? That's probably not a good idea |
| 11:54.58 | digup | Shadow_7: Isn't pavucontrol for gtk? |
| 11:55.06 | digup | And plasma-pa for kde? |
| 11:55.06 | julius | jelly, yes |
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| 11:55.47 | jelly | julius: don't do that. Pick one OS to manage that partition, and configure others to have their /boot in their / |
| 11:55.56 | BluesKaj | digup, check out alsamixer in the termianl and pulseaudio in system settings>multimedia>device prefernces and the hardware tab settings |
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| 11:56.18 | julius | jelly, you mean one grub calls "another" grub? |
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| 11:57.00 | jelly | julius: no need to do that, but with such a setup update-grub (well, os-prober) will be able to detect other linux installs properly and create a saner config |
| 11:57.01 | julius | jelly, any google search terms for how to set this up? |
| 11:57.16 | Shadow_7 | digup: it's a gtk3 app. don't have plasma-pa on jessie with no backports |
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| 11:57.29 | digup | Shadow_7: I'm using sid atm |
| 11:57.37 | jelly | julius: "don't use separate /boot" isn't really a search term |
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| 11:58.06 | Shadow_7 | julius: update-grub should set it up. Until it fails you. |
| 11:58.20 | julius | jelly, all i need todo is to give each system its own /boot partition, besides the "first" one? which resides outside the lvm? |
| 11:58.53 | jelly | julius: no, just don't give them a separate /boot at all, let them keep that directory on / |
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| 11:59.25 | jelly | your idea would work as well, but you'd have so many partitions. |
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| 11:59.56 | julius | jelly, so just one /boot outside of the lvm and all other partitions inside the lvm? |
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| 12:00.23 | digup | BluesKaj: Yea those playback devices all don't work, and I don't see anything like "HyperX 7.1 Audio (USB Audio)" like the options in teamspeak. |
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| 12:01.14 | Shadow_7 | digup: does the device show up in /proc/asound/cards ? |
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| 12:01.39 | Shadow_7 | digup: it might have some less flashy name like hw:3 |
| 12:01.41 | BluesKaj | digup, digital audio out is controlled by spdif out |
| 12:02.32 | BluesKaj | but I doubt that would work with a headset |
| 12:02.39 | BluesKaj | it's analog |
| 12:02.43 | digup | Yea /proc/asound/cards shows "2 SB-Audio - HyperX 7.1 Audio" |
| 12:02.57 | digup | USB* |
| 12:03.03 | Shadow_7 | digup: so hw:2 then. |
| 12:03.40 | BluesKaj | is this a Usb outboard soundcard |
| 12:03.41 | digup | Yea, teamspeak is using hw:2 also |
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| 12:04.04 | digup | How would I get the whole system to use that? |
| 12:04.18 | BluesKaj | default soundcard should be card"0" |
| 12:04.26 | Shadow_7 | if using alsa only... echo defaults.pcm.card 2 > ~/.asoundrc |
| 12:04.49 | Shadow_7 | but pulseaudio, you select it... and deselect everything but it. |
| 12:04.50 | digup | 0 would be intel, 1 is AMD audio, 2 is headset USB |
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| 12:05.36 | Shadow_7 | And sometimes you have to mute / unmute to give pulse half a clue of your desires. |
| 12:06.25 | Shadow_7 | or un-default / default. whatever those button things are the kids use these days |
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| 12:08.26 | BluesKaj | digup, make sure the automute in alsamixer is disabled as well |
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| 12:12.15 | digup | Well that seems to work now. |
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| 12:13.08 | stoned | youtube and netflix dont' work in chrome |
| 12:13.18 | stoned | it starts to load the video but nothing shows. black |
| 12:13.41 | BluesKaj | chrome or chromium? |
| 12:13.47 | stoned | either |
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| 12:14.06 | BluesKaj | should work in chrome |
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| 12:14.20 | stoned | I reinstalled debian, system was too messy w/ pcakages |
| 12:14.24 | stoned | after reinstall, it doesn't work. |
| 12:14.26 | stoned | used to. |
| 12:14.52 | BluesKaj | sometime chrome has to ne restarted if it needs flash enabled |
| 12:15.00 | BluesKaj | br |
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| 12:15.14 | BluesKaj | oops |
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| 12:16.39 | stoned | well |
| 12:16.44 | stoned | I nuked the .config/google-chrome directory |
| 12:16.55 | stoned | I'm not dealing w/ trign to fix stuff. Just restart that config. |
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| 12:17.02 | stoned | Let' see if it works, it's resotringmy accoutn now from gogole |
| 12:17.53 | stoned | well it work snow |
| 12:17.58 | stoned | what a goofy thing. |
| 12:18.03 | stoned | shakes fist on debian! |
| 12:18.26 | stoned | BTW, I the upgrade went smooth yesterday, but I didn't like stretch with his package problems. |
| 12:18.36 | stoned | Still a few packages are broken and I could report them. |
| 12:18.59 | stoned | nvidia-glx-legay-check packet causes problem during post install script and then upgrade fails, |
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| 12:19.13 | stoned | So, I fired up a vm, and put stretch from netinst in there |
| 12:19.22 | stoned | Wanted to see the problem was from the upgrade or somethign to do w/ my sytem |
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| 12:19.47 | stoned | Turns, the problem is in the package during the upgrae. Brand new stretch RC2 install gives the same error when trying to install the nvidia-driver package. |
| 12:19.57 | remem | anybody have link to clear mysql-client nad mysql-server with out 3th party |
| 12:19.57 | stoned | I could use stretch, if i switch to noveau driver. |
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| 12:20.42 | BluesKaj | stoned, which nvidia card/gpu? |
| 12:20.45 | stoned | I'm not configured to connect to oftc. i'll change there |
| 12:21.03 | stoned | it's GTX 275 and 8400GS (two gpu, 3 monitors) |
| 12:21.07 | BluesKaj | m ake sure you install dkms |
| 12:21.09 | remem | and maybe anybody know difference between (when install with apt-get) name{a} or name{u}? |
| 12:21.23 | stoned | The reason why I use nvidia is b/c of the 2x gpu |
| 12:21.35 | stoned | noveau driver can't handle 2 gpu and 1 X |
| 12:21.38 | BluesKaj | I have the same card , it's uding the 340 driver |
| 12:21.44 | BluesKaj | using |
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| 12:22.06 | stoned | I also lost like 60gb of zfs data, mostly crap. |
| 12:22.23 | BluesKaj | stoned, install dkms! |
| 12:22.27 | stoned | I ahve. |
| 12:22.36 | stoned | I have zfs-dkms and slc and whatever else needed b |
| 12:23.04 | BluesKaj | then you should have a problkrm if you use the driver manager |
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| 12:23.10 | BluesKaj | not |
| 12:23.22 | stoned | I dont. I was talking about stretch |
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| 12:23.38 | stoned | Jessie to Stretch upgrade, fails in one package. That package is broken in stretch. |
| 12:23.44 | stoned | I'm back on jessie, nice and stable. |
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| 12:24.13 | BluesKaj | I'm using dtretch , and the 84ooGS works here |
| 12:24.24 | themill | stoned: which package btw? |
| 12:24.30 | BluesKaj | 8400GS even |
| 12:24.34 | stoned | nvidia-legacy-check 340 something, I lost the logs. |
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| 12:24.58 | stoned | If you grep for my logs you'll see it. I think I posted here yesterday |
| 12:25.02 | stoned | I don't have logs |
| 12:25.20 | stoned | grep for al ine containing stoned and nvidia |
| 12:25.32 | BluesKaj | stoned..stop it , it's not broken in stretch ...you broke it |
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| 12:26.05 | stoned | I installed stretch from netinstt cd image, into a brand new machine, and the nvidia-glx-legacy-check package's post inst script is broken in stretch |
| 12:26.11 | stoned | Please don't troll. |
| 12:26.28 | themill | upgrade or fresh install? |
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| 12:26.54 | domovoy_ | hi |
| 12:26.56 | BluesKaj | you're theone who's trolling stoned and take it easy on the enter key |
| 12:27.00 | stoned | First I did upgrade, got this error. I said, hmm, maybe my sytem is bad. So I did brand new stretch install of RC2, and same problem w/ the nvidia legay check package |
| 12:27.26 | stoned | As it turns, it's that package in stretch repo which fails to fully install and t hus breaks the upgrade on nvidia systems. |
| 12:27.30 | stoned | (who dont use noveau) |
| 12:27.52 | themill | bug reported? |
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| 12:28.26 | BluesKaj | I guess they finally banned you at ##linux eh , stoned, so now your going spread your BS in gere |
| 12:28.29 | stoned | themill: I didn't have a working machine, so by the time I got a system up and runing, no more logs to use for bugreporting, unless I try another upgrade or fresh install. Which I might do in a vm and then reprt. |
| 12:28.44 | BluesKaj | here even' |
| 12:28.44 | stoned | BluesKaj: is this really necessary? |
| 12:28.58 | stoned | And no I'm not banned. Thanks for the slander. |
| 12:29.04 | BluesKaj | yesm because you're spreading fale info |
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| 12:29.15 | abrotman | libel technically ... |
| 12:29.16 | domovoy_ | i need to install debian on a usb key (not install _from_, but install _to_, so that i can boot from it and use it like it is installed on my harddrive), any idea where i should look? |
| 12:29.16 | BluesKaj | false info |
| 12:29.19 | stoned | ignored. I am not dealing w/ this. |
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| 12:29.22 | abrotman | slander is spoken |
| 12:29.26 | abrotman | goes back to work |
| 12:29.29 | stoned | abrotman: ah, thanks |
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| 12:31.19 | jelly | BluesKaj: keep your personal opinions of other users out of this channel, this is your only warning |
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| 12:32.56 | stoned | I really ought to remoe this 3rd monitor, 2nd gpu, move to 1 gpu, and just use Noveu driver and Xrandr, instead of Xinerama and stitching together 3 monitors across 2 gpu. Then I can use stretch w/o the goofy nvidia package bug. |
| 12:33.00 | stoned | *sigh* |
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| 12:33.27 | BluesKaj | jelly, ok, but you'll see what I mean soon enough |
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| 12:33.39 | themill | stoned: btw nvidia-legacy-check doesn't have a postinst. It's awfully hard to triage this... |
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| 12:33.52 | stoned | themill: I'll do another stretch install in a vm. |
| 12:34.28 | BluesKaj | themill, nvidia legavy check isn't necessarily accurate |
| 12:34.31 | stoned | themill: if you won't mind, could you grep my name for yesterday? |
| 12:34.41 | stoned | themill: I might have pasted the error here. |
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| 12:34.55 | Shadow_7 | domovoy_: it's not that hard. You can rsync an install to such a thing and chroot install the bootloader. Make sure you change the /etc/fstab and such for it's new location. |
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| 12:35.15 | themill | stoned: you mentioned a couple of different package names neither of which actually exist |
| 12:35.33 | Shadow_7 | domovoy_: otherwise debootstrap installations are well suited for usb sticks. |
| 12:36.02 | themill | keeps reading |
| 12:36.05 | domovoy_ | Shadow_7: so, a 'debootstrap + chroot + fstab + apt-get install grub' should work? |
| 12:36.06 | Shadow_7 | domovoy_: make sure you set a root password and install kernel to boot as part of the "extra" steps though. |
| 12:36.36 | domovoy_ | Shadow_7: great, thanks |
| 12:36.51 | stoned | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/nvidia-legacy-check |
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| 12:37.01 | stoned | This package runs when I try to do apt-get install nvidia-driver |
| 12:37.06 | Shadow_7 | domovoy_: formatting of the stick and stuff is pre-debootstrap, and make sure you install networking tools and firmwares before you boot it. |
| 12:37.09 | stoned | This package seems to have the problem |
| 12:37.12 | themill | stoned: and it doesn't have a postinst |
| 12:37.13 | stoned | I'll have to do another install. |
| 12:37.26 | abrotman | figures the real problem is nVidia :) |
| 12:37.28 | themill | please. real data â reportbug |
| 12:37.38 | stoned | Find out. But both times, (upgrade AND fresh install of stretch) reported this package and failed to isntall |
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| 12:39.20 | BluesKaj | stoned , which nvidia driver do you have installed? |
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| 12:42.32 | BluesKaj | stoned, for your info the recommned driver for the 8400GS uses the nvidia-340 driver and it works just great on stretch |
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| 13:07.09 | Donquixote | When starting a YouTube vid with VLC, it plays the sound, but not the frames. How can I fix that? |
| 13:07.39 | Donquixote | Also, I disabled JavaScript. How can I play vids on YouTube and other video portals? |
| 13:07.51 | missmbob | Donquixote: use mpv instead? :P seriously vlc in jessie has some issues |
| 13:08.05 | johnkeates | it does, but it also plays anything when it does :p |
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| 13:08.20 | johnkeates | totem works too |
| 13:08.26 | johnkeates | most of them use the lame libs anyway |
| 13:08.42 | Donquixote | I have GNOME MPlayer :x |
| 13:08.45 | missmbob | none of those three use the same libs :P |
| 13:09.10 | missmbob | Donquixote: mpv is the new fork of mplayer |
| 13:09.25 | Donquixote | I cannot play the video |
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| 13:10.24 | Donquixote | Please help |
| 13:10.39 | missmbob | i thought giving you two options was helping you out. want more? |
| 13:11.08 | Shadow_7 | Donquixote: what does avprobe or ffprobe say about the video? is it just audio? |
| 13:11.14 | Donquixote | I don't really want to install another program |
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| 13:11.29 | Donquixote | And I'd like to be able to play the videos directly in the browser |
| 13:11.32 | Donquixote | Without JS |
| 13:11.35 | missmbob | you'll also find out that it doesnt play x265 videos |
| 13:11.47 | missmbob | the vlc in stretch does |
| 13:11.59 | Shadow_7 | in broswer likely require gstreamer stuffs |
| 13:12.30 | missmbob | i doubt any real site (maybe some porn sites do) will stream without js |
| 13:12.54 | Donquixote | Do I need to download the video to test it? |
| 13:12.59 | Donquixote | It's not just that video |
| 13:13.03 | Donquixote | No YouTube video works |
| 13:13.27 | Shadow_7 | Donquixote: the cisco h.264 is disabled by default. about:config ... in browser. |
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| 13:13.34 | BluesKaj | missmbob, install ffmpeg |
| 13:13.48 | missmbob | Donquixote: i told you, vlc in jessie has known issues. here's your youtube one https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=769739 |
| 13:13.49 | Shadow_7 | with about:plugins to check it's status |
| 13:13.50 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/769739 in vlc (open, moreinfo): «vlc: Can't play videos in webm format on YouTube»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-11-16; last modified: 2017-01-01. |
| 13:13.57 | Donquixote | I use Chromium |
| 13:14.16 | BluesKaj | oops Donquixote install ffmpeg, sorry missmbob |
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| 13:14.51 | Shadow_7 | or libavtools ... depending on variant |
| 13:14.58 | Shadow_7 | libav-tools |
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| 13:15.21 | Donquixote | There are four packages that include ffmpeg |
| 13:15.30 | BluesKaj | Donquixote, chromium flashplayer doesn't work very well, try chrome-browser instead |
| 13:15.34 | Donquixote | But not a single "ffmpeg" Package |
| 13:15.42 | Donquixote | Hm? |
| 13:15.45 | missmbob | Donquixote: ffmpeg is in jessie-backports |
| 13:15.45 | Donquixote | I don't use Flash |
| 13:16.00 | Shadow_7 | avconv is a fork of ffmpeg. lots of libav* packages |
| 13:16.08 | Donquixote | Using Flash would defeat the point of disabling JavaScript |
| 13:16.19 | Donquixote | I want to have a 100% free system |
| 13:16.24 | missmbob | Donquixote: but that bug does explain your youtube issue |
| 13:16.24 | BluesKaj | ok , must be an older debian |
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| 13:17.37 | Donquixote | I'm installing libav-tools |
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| 13:17.45 | BluesKaj | Donquixote, there's still no getting away from flash , even youtube still uses it on some videos ,HTML5 hasn't been totally adopted yet |
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| 13:18.25 | Shadow_7 | mostly live streams although I think the newer firefox_esr can cope with those |
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| 13:19.02 | zykotick9 | BluesKaj: "there's still no getting away from flash" <- i dunno, i've managed to live without it for quite a while... ymmv |
| 13:19.42 | Shadow_7 | I've been far less lucky trying to watch youtube on 512MB machines |
| 13:19.56 | stoned | You can do it |
| 13:19.58 | BluesKaj | Shadow_7, I switched from ESR to chrome due to flash not working on some websites |
| 13:19.59 | stoned | I did it w/ zram |
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| 13:20.05 | Donquixote | 90% of Content can be accessed without flash. I'll gladly forego the rest |
| 13:20.11 | stoned | Every so often it will swap oout, that could be slow. |
| 13:20.32 | Shadow_7 | BluesKaj: freshplayerplugin + the PPAPI variant of flash. Granted from source for the plugin. And installed in ~/.mozilla only. |
| 13:20.32 | stoned | I don't use gui browser unless I need to |
| 13:20.35 | stoned | I use elinks |
| 13:20.48 | Shadow_7 | I use wget ... :) |
| 13:20.53 | Donquixote | Even Hitbox and Flash can be used with neither Flash or JS |
| 13:20.59 | johnkeates | stoned: and what do you use when you want to watch some porn? |
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| 13:21.17 | BluesKaj | zykotick9, well that's cool, but some users probly don't have your patience or selectivity..users like me :-) |
| 13:21.33 | Shadow_7 | not really... I like my pictures... Asc-ii art only goes so far |
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| 13:22.01 | Shadow_7 | (but it sure compresses well) |
| 13:22.49 | Donquixote | No change for VLC or MPlayer |
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| 13:23.05 | Shadow_7 | Donquixote: have you tried minitube? |
| 13:23.21 | missmbob | shouts mpv |
| 13:23.47 | BluesKaj | Shadow_7, thanks for the tip ,...I'm just becomining reaquainted wit debian after many yrs on other deb derivatives |
| 13:24.08 | Donquixote | No change for chromium either |
| 13:24.16 | Donquixote | Minutube works only with YouTube, right? |
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| 13:24.29 | stoned | ZFS on linux (openzfs) all those zfs solutions on linux are terrible. |
| 13:24.32 | Shadow_7 | There's youtube-dl, which works on many sites beyond youtube. |
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| 13:24.42 | stoned | They have betrayed me and soured me. Now I don't want to sue ZFS |
| 13:24.45 | stoned | use* |
| 13:24.49 | BluesKaj | chromium doesn't use the same embedded flasg plugin as chrome does |
| 13:24.52 | missmbob | mpv has a youtube-dl hook fyi |
| 13:24.54 | Shadow_7 | captured the other space series with that, and star trek renegades |
| 13:25.07 | stoned | I am wondering, I have 2x 3TB disks, that used to be in a ZFS mirror. Now I want to use a diff file system, but I don't know what. |
| 13:25.23 | missmbob | BluesKaj: of course it does. flash is installed but downloading chrome and ripping out the flash |
| 13:25.28 | missmbob | by* downloading |
| 13:25.51 | missmbob | in jessie anyway |
| 13:25.56 | Shadow_7 | actually since v.54 flash is not longer inside chrome |
| 13:26.05 | stoned | missmbob: not as easy as that. chromium needs to be compiled with flash and whatever widewine(netflix) plugins etc. only then can you drop ripped plugins from chrome into chromium. |
| 13:26.10 | stoned | otherwise they would not work. |
| 13:26.11 | Shadow_7 | you get it from the adobe site with the rest of the flashes... the PPAPI version |
| 13:26.13 | BluesKaj | missmbob, that's not been my experience |
| 13:26.22 | stoned | does debian's version of chromium come compiled w/ this support? |
| 13:26.40 | stoned | I'd happily switch to chromium if so. I don't want to recompile chromium. |
| 13:26.52 | missmbob | stoned: yes |
| 13:27.15 | Shadow_7 | but flash not included. You have to manually install it. |
| 13:27.17 | stoned | any suggestion on a file system |
| 13:27.21 | petn-randall | stoned: If plugins need to be compiled in they wouldn't be called "plugins", would they? That's also not how it works in reality. |
| 13:27.42 | stoned | petn-randall: read again what I said. |
| 13:27.47 | stoned | you have misunderstood. |
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| 13:28.47 | petn-randall | "chromium needs to be compiled with flash and whatever widewine(netflix) plugins etc. only then can you drop ripped plugins from chrome into chromium." |
| 13:28.59 | petn-randall | stoned: Is there another way to interpret that? |
| 13:29.04 | stoned | You can read it for yourself just fine. No need to copy paste. |
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| 13:29.39 | stoned | For you, I'll go the extra mile, hang on. |
| 13:29.44 | Donquixote | I am installing totem now |
| 13:29.50 | Donquixote | Hopefully it will work |
| 13:29.55 | stoned | petn-randall: you don't compile the actual plugins. But the browsser needs to be compiled with the supprot for said plugins. |
| 13:30.03 | Achylles | how do I fix tab-completion for mplayer? |
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| 13:30.12 | Achylles | they sent me here |
| 13:30.16 | stoned | If the browser isn't compiled w/ said support, you can drop the ripped chrome plugins in it all day, they won't take effect. |
| 13:30.22 | Achylles | saying that it is not a mplayer issue |
| 13:30.31 | Achylles | but a bash-completion issue |
| 13:31.03 | missmbob | just that you need to install it? |
| 13:31.05 | missmbob | ,i bash-completion |
| 13:31.06 | judd | Package bash-completion (shells, standard) in jessie/amd64: programmable completion for the bash shell. Version: 1:2.1-4; Size: 177.8k; Installed: 929k; Homepage: http://bash-completion.alioth.debian.org |
| 13:31.23 | themill | Achylles: a problem statement about what is wrong might be a good place to start |
| 13:31.39 | Achylles | i have it installed, but iam using testing |
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| 13:32.07 | petn-randall | stoned: Are you talking about #851692? |
| 13:32.08 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/851692 in chromium (closed): «chromium: startup script is disabling all extensions»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2017-01-17; last modified: 2017-01-23. |
| 13:32.29 | Achylles | when I issue mplayer foo TAB it does not complete the rest |
| 13:32.36 | Achylles | for foo.bar |
| 13:32.49 | stoned | petn-randall: no. I didn't even know about this. |
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| 13:33.06 | Achylles | other things bash completes, but mplayer... |
| 13:33.08 | themill | Achylles: the bash-completion package tries to only complete filenames that mplayer can actually play |
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| 13:33.34 | Achylles | I know |
| 13:33.43 | Shadow_7 | tab completion works for known file times ONLY in some cases. and who uses mplayer? it's been forked many times. mplayer2, mpv, ... ... ... |
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| 13:34.18 | missmbob | Shadow_7: apparently no one hears you when you suggest mpv |
| 13:34.20 | Achylles | but if I try to install mplayer2 it conflicts with mplayer |
| 13:34.44 | Shadow_7 | although mplayer is the last version that supports aalib and non caca ascii art |
| 13:34.57 | Achylles | and I do not want to throw my skins away... |
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| 13:37.31 | stoned | petn-randall: I think a year ago or maybe 2 years ago I tried to use chromium and netflix/youtube wouldn't work. I was told I needed to copy the plugins from chrome's install to chromium. I did that, and it would not work. Then I discovered that you have to build chromium --with widevien and flash otherwise the binary plugins are not detected. |
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| 13:38.03 | stoned | petn-randall: it seems that now debian ships chromium w/ these compile time options, and now you can just copy the binary plugins and they are detected and workin chromium (it's what I hear now, from missmbob ) |
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| 13:39.01 | missmbob | stoned: btw here's a nice script that rips out widevine https://gist.github.com/ruario/3c873d43eb20553d5014bd4d29fe37f1 |
| 13:39.14 | stoned | Oh nice |
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| 13:39.57 | Achylles | thx anyway. I found a fix here... |
| 13:40.08 | Achylles | https://github.com/GArik/bash-completion/blob/master/completions/mplayer |
| 13:40.29 | stoned | missmbob: looking at this script, it automates too much I think |
| 13:40.43 | Achylles | for me it is ok |
| 13:40.52 | Achylles | it is working now... |
| 13:40.54 | stoned | petn-randall: it seems that now debian ships chromium w/ these compile time options, and now you can just copy the binary plugins and they are detected and workin chromium (it's what I hear now, from missmbob )ems. |
| 13:40.59 | stoned | wth |
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| 13:41.14 | stoned | And it uses rpm, it's not even for debian it seems |
| 13:41.27 | BluesKaj | mpv works well , mostly, but ti does have some digital audio issues with DD and DTS , but that's on jessie and stretch ...i have a script that works on the audio part of the signal to decode 5.1 DD and DTS , but it's hit or miss depending whether it's EAC3 or AC3. The video is usually excellent however. |
| 13:41.32 | missmbob | debian works just file to just extract an rpm. you dont keep the rpm or install it |
| 13:41.36 | Achylles | but it is working... |
| 13:41.48 | stoned | missmbob: I get it, but just noting |
| 13:42.30 | Achylles | i did not install anything |
| 13:43.24 | Achylles | I just did -> wget -c https://github.com/GArik/bash-completion/blob/master/completions/mplayer /etc/bash_completion.d/ |
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| 13:44.04 | stoned | missmbob: what's your favo file system? |
| 13:44.08 | Shadow_7 | Hmmm... mpv not compiled with caca support in debian jessie amd64 |
| 13:44.49 | missmbob | stoned: i dont branch out. ext4. i tried btrfs with encryption about six months ago and it was horribly slow for me so i just went back |
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| 13:45.49 | stoned | Ever used zfs? |
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| 13:45.54 | missmbob | no |
| 13:46.02 | Shadow_7 | xfs is about as branched out as I get. But mostly ext4 for me |
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| 13:46.26 | julius | is there a way to have tcpdump log all connections by process name? |
| 13:46.41 | Shadow_7 | I need at least one secondary machine with > 2GB ram before I even consider anything zfs ... IMO ... |
| 13:46.51 | Shadow_7 | Which I currently lack |
| 13:46.53 | petn-randall | stoned: The PPAPI support in question has been in Debian at least since 2013, can't say if it was in there before or not. |
| 13:47.01 | stoned | ZFS in backports, I try to make a mirro, and then file -s /dev and it says it's apple zfs but also says /dev/sdf1: Linux Software RAID version 1.2 (1) UUID=7dba5417: db48268:dcc1b56c:e29fd4d5 name=Stoned-PC:0 level=1 disks=2 |
| 13:47.11 | stoned | That's what the guys in #zfs also asked |
| 13:47.16 | stoned | Why does it show up a linux raid? |
| 13:47.22 | Shadow_7 | dreams of fitlet-H with 16GB ram |
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| 13:48.39 | stoned | What does ZFS have to do w/ linux software raid? |
| 13:48.54 | stoned | Isn't this an entirely own self contained volume manager, fs, etc. etc. |
| 13:48.57 | tw | `file` is heuristic. It gets things wrong. |
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| 13:49.15 | tw | it says my linux.uImage file is a gpg key. |
| 13:49.15 | stoned | hm. |
| 13:49.19 | stoned | hahah |
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| 13:49.39 | stoned | Well, has anyone experience using ZFS on debian (from backports) |
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| 13:50.14 | stoned | Well, has anyone experience using ZFS on debian (from backports): I did export, then reinstalled OS, then did import, and no pools show up to be imported. I followd the oracle guide as well. I seemed to have done things right. |
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| 13:50.25 | stoned | Now I'm fearful of using zfs again, dont' want this to happen again. |
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| 13:51.02 | stoned | this guy was helping me yesterday, I forgot him name. :( |
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| 13:51.26 | missmbob | somiaj ? abrotman ? i think i saw them both chat with you a little |
| 13:51.39 | stoned | no with a guy w/ the first name and two last initlals. |
| 13:51.53 | stoned | he was talking to me about his own wheezy to jessie upgrade and his zfs issues |
| 13:51.57 | stoned | maybe you remember |
| 13:52.17 | remem | greate tools for debian --full-resolved:D |
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| 13:52.50 | stoned | Everything is hunky dory on my end, other than deciding what to do w/ my 2x 3TB (and that zfs import/exprot thing) |
| 13:53.04 | abrotman | missmbob: hi? |
| 13:53.21 | missmbob | abrotman: i was trying to answer stoned's question. sorry for the ping :P |
| 13:53.24 | abrotman | oh |
| 13:53.33 | abrotman | I see the context now |
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| 13:54.49 | stoned | https://imgur.com/RJWSLqC |
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| 13:55.16 | stoned | Just going to work on my code a bit, but if anyone comes around w/ zfs experience on debian, that'd be cool. |
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| 13:57.28 | Donquixote | I installed Totem |
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| 13:57.34 | Donquixote | When I startet it, it crashed immediatly |
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| 13:58.37 | BluesKaj | totem , still around ...there's ablast from the past :-) |
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| 13:59.08 | colo-work | on stretch, is there a directory where I can just place executable files (or symlinks pointing towards that kind) that will be executed on bootup, like /etc/rc.local (as a single file) used to? or will I have to create systemd units for each executable I'd like to run? |
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| 14:00.38 | julius | is it possible to run: ip netns exec test ping -c 1 google.de as user? |
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| 14:00.44 | julius | i mean, how would it be |
| 14:01.29 | Shadow_7 | totem will always be xine lite to me |
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| 14:04.51 | julius | Shadow_7, totem is based on xine? |
| 14:05.06 | Shadow_7 | in the early days it looks a lot like xine |
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| 14:05.29 | Shadow_7 | and maybe some totem-xine package naming. I mostly just installed xine |
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| 14:07.02 | Shadow_7 | although back then I preferred xmms for cds and ogle for dvds |
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| 14:07.47 | abrotman | totem can have more than one backend (or used to anyway), and probably uses gstreamer by default now |
| 14:07.52 | cybrNaut | after doing "aptitude install ocrodjvu", i run it and get "ocrodjvu: error: OCR engine (ocropus) was not found". Shouldn't the package have automatically installed its dependencies? |
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| 14:08.54 | cybrNaut | doing "apt-file search ocropus" gives "ocrodjvu: /usr/share/ocrodjvu/lib/engines/ocropus.py" (a file that exists) |
| 14:09.57 | mjnovice | Hello people, I am trying to use overlayfs on debian 8.6 with kernel 3.16. Any way of doing it ? |
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| 14:10.52 | ksk | Hey Guys. is there anything cool to restrict a (ssh) user to rsync and sftp access only? |
| 14:12.07 | Shadow_7 | ksk: couldn't they sftp additional functionality? |
| 14:12.38 | ksk | Shadow_7: pardon? |
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| 14:13.43 | Shadow_7 | ksk: use fstp to get executables to do other things. just thinking out loud |
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| 14:14.16 | koollman | ksk: rssh |
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| 14:15.37 | ksk | koollman: thanks! |
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| 14:18.25 | mflow | Is there a libpng16-16 in Debian Jessie? I cannot find any here: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libpng16-16 How can I install libpng 1.6.x then if I don't have sid or stretch or experimental? Manually compilling it from source? Or enabling testing repo and installing the libpng from there? |
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| 14:18.58 | Shadow_7 | libpng12-0 for jessie it seems |
| 14:19.27 | Shadow_7 | don't know about backports |
| 14:19.43 | mflow | I need libpng 1.6.x otherwise my code won't compile |
| 14:20.33 | missmbob | ,checkbackport libpng-dev |
| 14:20.34 | judd | Backporting package libpng-dev in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, jessie-backports. |
| 14:20.48 | missmbob | that's 1.6.28 |
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| 14:24.11 | mflow | missmbob: you mean, that there is a backport? Why this doesn't return any results https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libpng-dev&searchon=names§ion=all&suite=jessie-backports ? |
| 14:25.19 | mflow | missmbob: or it is the process of being backported? |
| 14:26.40 | jelly | that's looking at feasibility of making a backport |
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| 14:28.49 | mflow | ,checkbackport libpng16-16 |
| 14:28.50 | judd | Backporting package libpng16-16 in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, jessie-backports. |
| 14:29.21 | missmbob | !tell mflow about ssb |
| 14:29.31 | missmbob | note that one also requires jessie-backports, which is fun |
| 14:29.42 | Shadow_7 | super sayen brother? |
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| 14:33.36 | cybrNaut | nevermind.. turns out a non-obligatory CLI optoin is really needed |
| 14:33.50 | tdn | I use TinyCA2 to manage my certificates, but testing them via ssllabs.com/ssltest, I recently discovered, that they all use a weak signature (SHA1). It appears that TinyCA2 does not support SHA2. What other tools similar to TinyCA2 are there for Debian? (I use Debian 7, but am willing to upgrade to 8 in order to fix this) |
| 14:35.04 | missmbob | i use letsencrypt |
| 14:35.24 | tw | mjnovice: overlayfs is in 3.18 and later, but you want the 4.0+ version anyway. |
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| 14:35.56 | tw | There may be external patches for 3.16, but I would pull a 4.8 or 4.9 kernel from backports anyway. |
| 14:36.12 | bezaban | openssl, ejbca (not packaged) |
| 14:36.24 | bezaban | there was another one I gave a spin |
| 14:36.51 | missmbob | ,i certbot |
| 14:36.52 | bezaban | ,v dogtag |
| 14:36.53 | judd | No package named 'certbot' was found in jessie/amd64. |
| 14:36.54 | judd | No package named 'dogtag' was found in amd64. |
| 14:37.18 | bezaban | and ejbca may be *slightly* overkill |
| 14:37.32 | colo-work | tdn, just use the OpenSSL ca tool(s) directly? |
| 14:37.49 | tw | tdn: update the openssl.cnf for sha256. Change default_md from default to sha256. |
| 14:37.51 | tsuyubo | hi, all, excuse me. I have downloaded girara source code,but how to install it? |
| 14:38.00 | tw | tinyca2 probably just wraps up the openssl calls. |
| 14:38.14 | missmbob | tsuyubo: i assume there are instructions where you downloaded it from |
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| 14:38.24 | tsuyubo | Here are no makefile or |
| 14:38.32 | jelly | tw: you get the Most Sensible Guess Award |
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| 14:38.58 | bezaban | that wasn't the question! Although probably the best answer :> |
| 14:39.05 | tsuyubo | missmbob: en..I think it should have instructions |
| 14:39.30 | tdn | colo-work, using openssl directly from commandline does not give me any governance options, etc. |
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| 14:39.41 | tsuyubo | missmbob: but,, here are a file named rules |
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| 14:39.49 | tdn | colo-work, then I need to create my own tools around it to manage the certs, keys, etc. |
| 14:39.56 | colo-work | tdn, what "governance options" are you speaking of? |
| 14:40.06 | tdn | tw, that might work. |
| 14:40.16 | tdn | colo-work, do you know tinyca2? |
| 14:40.16 | tsuyubo | missmbob: and libgirara-dev.install |
| 14:40.18 | colo-work | (I'm note sure what those CA mgmt tools do, but I manage three CAs with openssl's "native" tooling, on top of git, and do just fine) |
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| 14:40.52 | jelly | colo-work: does git warn you of certs that need refreshing? |
| 14:41.16 | jelly | and of users that are not in your org. any more so their user certs need revoking |
| 14:41.21 | colo-work | jelly, our monitoring takes care of that. yes, even for end-user certs that are committed to the repo. |
| 14:41.22 | mflow | missmbob: thanks, I will try to do a backport for libpng 1.6.x |
| 14:41.33 | jelly | colo-work: so it's not just git |
| 14:41.35 | tsuyubo | could you give me a hint? |
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| 14:42.16 | tw | It's probably a buttload of scripts on top of git. That's how mine has to work because I was too foolish to just set up the CA role in win server. |
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| 14:43.15 | colo-work | jelly, no, but I wouldn't expect it to do so :) I guess tinyca also "isn't just tinyca", but it'd also require a cron-like facility, and MTA, etc. to perform its notification stuff. |
| 14:43.26 | tdn | tw, exactly. That buttload of scripts is what I want to avoid having to implement if TinyCA can give me that. |
| 14:43.27 | tsuyubo | missmbob: sorry, i have git clone it's source code .I will try it again |
| 14:44.17 | bezaban | the CA part is just a subset of PKI |
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| 14:44.38 | missmbob | tsuyubo: i just went to their github and it tells you exactly how to install. seriously just go read |
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| 14:47.38 | boser | so now, i have a problem in cinnamon. when i move the mause over same icons in the Menu, than the pictures are disapers. it look like, that a blank space are overdraw than. The information about this icon are still avalible. |
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| 14:48.52 | tsuyubo | missmbob: yes, it is my fault. I downloaded a girara_0.2.7-1.debian.tar.xz and got lost how to insatll it. Thanks again! |
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| 14:50.22 | tdn | tw, I changed default_md to sha256. Now I try to issue a new certificate in TinyCA2. It then forces me to chose one of the following digests: SHA1, MD2, MDC2, MD4, MD5, RIPEMD-160. No way to select "none, use default" |
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| 14:53.10 | jelly | that sounds like some rather outdated piece of software |
| 14:54.01 | tdn | jelly, yeah, I think there is a debian bug from 2014 on this issue (not supporting SHA2) |
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| 14:54.20 | colo-work | considering how long openssl has supported sha2 sigs, that's kinda odd :) |
| 14:54.54 | tdn | colo-work, I agree |
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| 15:04.48 | DexterF | say I've drawn a full debian mirror but now want to get rid of specific branches *afterwards*, can do somehow? I pulled one for a project, so I need to keep the versions from that date |
| 15:05.10 | tdn | DexterF, just curious: what is the size of the full mirror? |
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| 15:05.26 | DexterF | tdn, 350GB or so |
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| 15:05.39 | tdn | damn |
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| 15:08.17 | DexterF | my thought. hastily got everything with wget (I think..) now I need to slim down... |
| 15:08.28 | DexterF | should have a look at debmirror I guess |
| 15:08.42 | tdn | DexterF, are you creating a public mirror? |
| 15:08.46 | tdn | DexterF, or for internal use? |
| 15:09.14 | tdn | DexterF, if it is for internal use, you might want to consider an apt proxy instead. I used this some years ago. Then I only need to cache all packages that are actually used. |
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| 15:21.06 | DexterF | tdn, internal. need to create a black box device that won't talk to the internet afterwards |
| 15:21.18 | DexterF | key feature is "same package versions" |
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| 16:11.55 | Psy-Q | what'll be the default display manager for debian 9? lightdm seems not to work right now |
| 16:12.38 | mtn | Psy-Q: there is no default, but if you installed gnome, it is gdm |
| 16:12.39 | missmbob | "default" de is gnome, so gdm. |
| 16:12.57 | Psy-Q | ah, ok. i'm using xfce and i thought it might have installed lightdm |
| 16:13.08 | missmbob | it does for xfce's task |
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| 16:13.28 | Psy-Q | ok, then that's that :) thanks. i'll switch to gdm or slim until lightdm works again |
| 16:14.24 | Shadow_7 | or use startx... with false in /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
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| 16:14.49 | petn-randall | Psy-Q: It would be nice for you to go the extra mile and check if whatever bug you see is already reported, and if not report it. |
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| 16:17.48 | BluesKaj | Psy-Q, sddm most likely ...it is on stretch |
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| 16:20.44 | Psy-Q | petn-randall: there seem to be about 4 or 5 bugs that could all be this one |
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| 16:20.59 | Psy-Q | some have workarounds, some not, i'm still trying to work it out if it's one of those |
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| 16:48.54 | BluesKaj | ok, is dist-upgrade still used to upgrade to a new debian release or is it do-release-upgrade, like the 'buntus |
| 16:48.59 | BluesKaj | ? |
| 16:49.41 | petn-randall | BluesKaj: I'm pretty sure that's a Ubuntu thing. |
| 16:49.58 | BluesKaj | petn-randall, yeah, so it seems |
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| 16:50.52 | petn-randall | BluesKaj: The longest part of an dist-upgrade is reading the release notes and verifying the backups, though. Changing three words in /etc/apt/sources.list is done quite easily. |
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| 16:52.08 | BluesKaj | petn-randall, yes, i've done so in the past on kubuntu devel OSs |
| 16:52.24 | BluesKaj | the sed command |
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| 16:57.43 | wachpwnski-mobi | Does anyone know what exit code 123 from live-build (lb build) is likely caused from? |
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| 16:58.01 | jelly | BluesKaj: the commands to be used for a release upgrade are documented in release notes; up until 7->8 release upgrade that included "apt-get dist-upgrade" but that wasn't all that needed to be done |
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| 17:00.46 | jelly | petn-randall: I avoid using "dist-upgrade" as a noun, prefering "release upgrade" because what the apt-get command does is pretty much not related to a release upgrade |
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| 17:05.48 | BluesKaj | jelly, I guess the short cut to a new release is to apt dist-upgrade all packages , then change the sources list to the next release name, and upate and upgrade with apt and dist-upgrade again |
| 17:06.00 | LunaSela | Hi, is there a better way disabling bluetooth and WLAN by default (on boot) than putting rfkill block in rc.local? |
| 17:06.26 | BluesKaj | jelly, and then pray |
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| 17:07.30 | jelly | BluesKaj: there is no shortcut, if one fails to read the release notes for common issues and precautions, then they get laughed at |
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| 17:08.08 | missmbob | BluesKaj: you would've been screwed with jessie's apache, for example |
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| 17:08.39 | Shadow_7 | LunaSela: not installing wireless tools or firmwares is one way. But most popular de's have those as deps. |
| 17:08.49 | jelly | even be basics of the procedure vary slightly between releases, sometimes an initial upgrade is recommended, sometimes it's not, sometimes the kernel needs to be upgraded first |
| 17:09.11 | BluesKaj | jelly think the safest is to have separate / and /home partitons and install the new release to / and set the /home mountpoint without formatting , |
| 17:09.18 | LunaSela | Shadow_7: I want to be able to enable it on demand, but not sucking battery while not used |
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| 17:09.45 | jelly | BluesKaj: no, the safest is to read (and have backups) |
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| 17:10.21 | BluesKaj | that's been my procedure for yrs on kubuntu |
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| 17:13.02 | BluesKaj | well, I'm not on the job and I do have backups on an outboard drive, so it's not disastrous for me if something goes wrong |
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| 17:13.50 | jelly | BluesKaj: what are you trying to do, anyway |
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| 17:15.36 | BluesKaj | jelly, a user on a production machine was asking on the ##linux chat about upgrading to a new release on debian |
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| 17:16.25 | jelly | BluesKaj: going from which release to which release is important, because they you can tell them which release notes to READ |
| 17:17.42 | jelly | which moglisch did already. That's the right answer: <mgolisch> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 17:18.28 | BluesKaj | jelly, she was just curious about debian, don't think she had debian installed yet, then she left |
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| 17:21.28 | BluesKaj | yeah , i saw that ...I'll take my chances |
| 17:22.42 | missmbob | it's not a chance, really. if they were using apache it *would* have broken |
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| 17:23.50 | petn-randall | jelly: good point |
| 17:24.13 | BluesKaj | i have a pretty ordinary home user setup, no servers or databases to worry about |
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| 17:25.59 | petn-randall | missmbob: How was apache2 broken when upgrading from wheezy to jessie? |
| 17:26.07 | petn-randall | doesn't remember any problems in that regard. |
| 17:26.22 | missmbob | petn-randall: config file changes between 2.2 and 2.4 |
| 17:27.13 | n4dir | i can't remember i ever read the release notes. better not say it at all ... |
| 17:27.38 | missmbob | i'd fire all of you but jelly :P |
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| 17:27.58 | n4dir | lol. and with full right ! |
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| 17:30.45 | stoned | hello. I am trying to instll python, pip, but what package is it inside? |
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| 17:31.21 | missmbob | stoned: you shouldnt use pip as root. use virtualenv |
| 17:31.49 | stoned | really |
| 17:31.54 | missmbob | !tell stoned about virtualenv |
| 17:31.59 | stoned | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/lightningmf I need this package for a mame front end |
| 17:32.22 | missmbob | stoned: see the big warning in caps? |
| 17:32.25 | somiaj | no we like to give random advise here just to see if people will listen..... |
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| 17:33.10 | somiaj | if not packaged in debian you could see if dh_python can help build a package for you |
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| 17:35.17 | stoned | I need python-pip and python3-pip packages. |
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| 17:35.34 | stoned | then setup virtualenv and install my pip package in a source repo there |
| 17:35.41 | stoned | I get all that. Seems a bit much to go through just to do one thing. |
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| 17:36.03 | stoned | pip can install locally too, doesn't hav eto be root, right? |
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| 17:36.22 | petn-randall | missmbob: I'm fairly sure I read the release notes two years ago, as I updated all my machines back then. |
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| 17:37.39 | somiaj | stoned: that is what a virtual enviorment is |
| 17:38.01 | somiaj | stoned: a way to install stuff locally away from the system. |
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| 17:38.19 | stoned | I thought pip can do it w/o running as root, or doing the virtualenv. |
| 17:38.22 | stoned | but this works too |
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| 17:49.25 | invizus | virsh does not get changes from xml file if I modify it manually, any command to make virsh read my changes from xml file? |
| 17:50.28 | dondelelcaro | invizus: see the edit command, which basically does this? |
| 17:51.17 | invizus | well I actually created new vm from file and have modified it again already. I used define command so hope the right one. |
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| 17:53.40 | Hanonim | Hey ! |
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| 17:54.08 | Hanonim | simple noob question : does installing unattended-upgrades provides automatic security updates out of the box ? |
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| 17:58.01 | missmbob | Hanonim: you needd to edit apt's config a bit. see this wiki for all the info. https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades |
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| 18:04.39 | Hanonim | missmbob: using dpkg-reconfigure -plow unattended-upgrades ? |
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| 18:08.18 | SuperTramp83 | stoned, pip3 install --user package |
| 18:08.29 | SuperTramp83 | that's how I do it |
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| 18:24.18 | noqnio1 | hey. trying to fix broken gnome-themes-standard-data and i get "unable to open '/usr/share/themes/Adwaita-dark/gtk-3.0/gtk.css.dpkg-new': No such file or directory". If i delete it and reinstall will all hell break lose? |
| 18:24.33 | noqnio1 | loose* |
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| 18:25.43 | jorb | can anoyne explain how /etc/default/grub is used? |
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| 18:26.10 | jorb | doi have to run some type of script to get it to update grub on the boot partition? |
| 18:26.31 | greycat | jorb: it's read by update-grub (indirectly when it exec's grub-mkconfig) |
| 18:26.32 | noqnio1 | grub-mkconfig |
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| 18:27.00 | jorb | thx greycat, noqnio1 |
| 18:27.05 | greycat | $ head -n1 /etc/default/grub |
| 18:27.05 | greycat | # If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update |
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| 18:29.40 | jorb | i'm actually just having to work backwards froma CentosVM, but thought i'd ask here for some reason |
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| 18:30.47 | Donquixote | Does Debian have something like a Taskmanager? |
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| 18:31.56 | missmbob | Donquixote: each de has it's own. i use xfce and that's xfce4-taskmanager |
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| 18:32.08 | Donquixote | Thanks! |
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| 18:34.50 | Donquixote | It doesn't work |
| 18:35.00 | Donquixote | I use xfce now, but installed it with LXDE |
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| 18:40.17 | Della | Hello |
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| 18:41.06 | Della | I am using Debian GNOME. Everything works fine on the user I use daily. The thing is I have created a new user and the audio is not working, can't figure out why. |
| 18:41.24 | Della | As I said, audio works fine on my main user. |
| 18:42.10 | Della | I have added the new username to the audio group but that didn't really worked, also when raising the volume in it it says something about HDMI 3 or something like that |
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| 18:43.03 | somiaj | Della: type groups as your main user, add the other user to useful groups |
| 18:43.09 | greycat | wonders how pulseaudio broke it *this* time |
| 18:43.09 | somiaj | Della: for audio the user needs to be in the audio group |
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| 18:43.20 | somiaj | Della: nevermind, I'm slow, you said you did that. |
| 18:43.36 | missmbob | did you log out and back in after adding it to audio? |
| 18:43.42 | greycat | Still worth confirming that she actually logged out and back in, and has the group membership correct. |
| 18:43.48 | Della | Hm, no I didn't missmbob |
| 18:43.54 | greycat | rolls eyes |
| 18:44.12 | Della | Maybe I did, I can't remember |
| 18:44.18 | missmbob | well, do it now |
| 18:44.22 | Della | Yeah |
| 18:44.23 | Della | BRB |
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| 18:53.39 | menace | will thunderbird instead of icedove be available in stretch? |
| 18:54.05 | somiaj | nope, stretch is frozen and it is still icedove afiak |
| 18:54.40 | menace | *sniff* :-( |
| 18:54.49 | angelo33 | :L |
| 18:55.52 | Shadow_7 | ffmpeg instead of avconv in stretch? |
| 18:56.29 | somiaj | menace: icedove will work just fine, thundirbird has been mostly dead and not supported by mozilla for a while, though a group of volunteers are mataining thunderbird, it really isn't that much different than the icedove in debian. |
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| 18:56.55 | somiaj | Shadow_7: yes ffmpeg is back, but I think the av tools are there if you want to use those too. |
| 18:57.44 | menace | i thought there's a bigger thunderbird release upcoming? |
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| 18:58.14 | missmbob | that's because SoC, not mozilla |
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| 18:59.37 | menace | SoC? |
| 18:59.42 | somiaj | menace: I am unsure about that, I was just looking at the current one which isn't that different than debian. If a new one is in the works, it wno't be in stretch due to the freeze, but maybe after it gets in debian can be backported. |
| 18:59.43 | missmbob | google summer of code |
| 18:59.55 | menace | ah |
| 19:00.11 | somiaj | but this is talking about a release that has not happend from my looking |
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| 19:04.31 | schneider__ | Hi, I want to forward all my trafic to mongodb hosted on aws servers through a ssh tunnel |
| 19:05.01 | schneider__ | I've used Proxifier on windows to filter specific hostnames to go with socks5 proxy |
| 19:05.11 | schneider__ | but I'm not sure what tools should I use on linux |
| 19:05.23 | schneider__ | can someone help me? |
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| 19:24.56 | qwebirc13946 | Hi, trying to compile stuff under Debian, and having some problems. Instructions say "just run ./configure" (doesn't work), or I may need to run "autogen.sh" which doesn't work either "autoreconf: not found). Any advice, other than use Windows? |
| 19:25.21 | qwebirc13946 | https://git.xiph.org/?p=icecast-server.git;a=blob;f=README;h=a4cc574a04a2bec414f2eb471c673c7adf9ae3a4;hb=ceec48201ab1e08a449a3745aa667a5d1ab9ba91 |
| 19:26.04 | somiaj | qwebirc13946: you need to install the build depends, start with the build-essential package, after that install the -dev libs needed to compile the software |
| 19:26.06 | missmbob | qwebirc13946: see where it says icecast requires? get the -dev packages for all of those then run ./configure again |
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| 19:26.59 | greycat | ,file bin/autoreconf |
| 19:27.03 | judd | Search for bin/autoreconf in jessie/amd64: autoconf: usr/bin/autoreconf; autoconf2.13: usr/bin/autoreconf |
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| 19:28.48 | qwebirc13946 | "build-essential is already the newest version." |
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| 19:29.31 | greycat | Good. You also need the autoconf package. |
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| 19:31.36 | qwebirc13946 | @greycat Thanks. That's sorted it out. |
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| 20:21.45 | SunOS | hello |
| 20:23.25 | userro | hi |
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| 20:29.30 | SunOS | i can`t not id like root user |
| 20:29.35 | SunOS | when i type |
| 20:29.38 | SunOS | su |
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| 20:29.41 | SunOS | and my password |
| 20:29.50 | SunOS | all the time shows me that one |
| 20:29.58 | bezaban | after su you enter the root password, not yours |
| 20:30.00 | greycat | Please stop hitting Enter in the middle of sentences. |
| 20:30.01 | SunOS | Cannot execute /usr/local/bin/fish: No such file or directory |
| 20:30.30 | bezaban | sudo su and fish is a shell, but you should never have gotten to that point with su and your password, so I'm sceptical |
| 20:30.31 | greycat | SunOS: file /usr/local/bin/fish |
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| 20:30.46 | SunOS | bezaban , i enter root password ;) not my username password |
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| 20:31.06 | greycat | All this su/root crap has nothing to do with "no such file or directory" |
| 20:31.28 | SunOS | with what |
| 20:31.50 | greycat | SunOS: file /usr/local/bin/fish |
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| 20:32.03 | bezaban | additionally debian installs fish to /usr/bin |
| 20:32.13 | greycat | Clearly he's not using a Debian package of it. |
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| 20:32.47 | SunOS | hmz so strange |
| 20:33.06 | missmbob | it'd be funny if he really was using sunos |
| 20:33.15 | greycat | s/funny/offtopic/ |
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| 20:33.27 | userro | heh |
| 20:33.31 | SunOS | aahaha |
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| 20:35.17 | userro | Sun OS Latest releaseâ: â4.1.4 / November 1994; 22 years ago |
| 20:35.25 | diskpart | what's the cheapest realistic price point to get 2 x 10 cores running at 5GHz with ~128GB RAM? |
| 20:35.59 | diskpart | some idiot at my school in the IT dept logged into a workstation as a domain admin |
| 20:36.08 | missmbob | diskpart: if you want to be offtopic there's #debian-offtopic |
| 20:36.11 | userro | this is off-topic |
| 20:36.13 | diskpart | on windows, with domain credential caching on |
| 20:36.24 | diskpart | i have the nt hash i just need a big cluster |
| 20:36.35 | diskpart | missmbob: okay |
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| 20:51.26 | hassoon | wtf i've been away from linux since i got hired as a web developper and reading the debian handbook is getting harder to do |
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| 20:56.33 | jhutchins_wk | hassoon: Need help with anything in particular? |
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| 20:57.26 | kieppie | !ffmpeg |
| 20:57.27 | dpkg | FFmpeg is a complete, cross-platform solution to record, convert and stream audio and video, available in jessie-backports, stretch and sid. The Debian ffmpeg package contains a multimedia player (ffplay), server (ffserver) and encoder (ffmpeg). Use "ffmpeg -formats" to list supported transcoding formats for ffmpeg's -target option. http://ffmpeg.org/ #ffmpeg on irc.freenode.net. See also <libav>. |
| 20:58.04 | kieppie | looking @ deb wiki, it states "Be careful, FFmpeg is not available on Debian 8 Jessie" |
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| 20:58.19 | missmbob | kieppie: it wasnt on release. that's why it's in jessie-backports |
| 20:58.24 | kieppie | Any idea why this is? I believe this is breaking backwards-compatibility for many apps |
| 20:58.44 | kieppie | looking @ Motion specifically on Raspbian |
| 20:58.51 | missmbob | !raspbian |
| 20:58.51 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 20:58.55 | greycat | Why would we care about Raspbian? |
| 20:59.14 | greycat | Why would the presence or absence of a package in Debian jessie affect Raspbian? |
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| 20:59.35 | kieppie | simply a massive install-base of the distro? the lead-in for many newcomers to Linux/POSIX? |
| 20:59.58 | missmbob | well it has nothing to do with us. try talking to them |
| 21:00.02 | greycat | Now I have no idea what you're talking about at all. |
| 21:00.43 | kieppie | "Why would we care about Raspbian?" |
| 21:00.43 | kieppie | Bit of a facetious retort, don't you think? |
| 21:00.47 | greycat | Are you asking why ffmpeg is not in RASPBIAN? Then ask the raspbian channel. |
| 21:01.31 | webstral | i'm aware that most of you will laugh, but I really need an advice on choosing the best free alternative for cPanel... msg me in private if you have any advice, thanks |
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| 21:02.55 | kieppie | no, I'm asking why ""Be careful, FFmpeg is not available on Debian 8 Jessie"" - specifically the rationalle behind such a move. I'm OK if it's something that makes sense, like proprietary blobs or other copyright issues, as may be the case, but for an upstream repo to simply drop it is a bit O.o |
| 21:03.03 | AvatarA | I don't know if there is a universal best for anything you have to try and see what fits your needs webstral |
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| 21:03.35 | greycat | !libav |
| 21:03.36 | dpkg | Libav is a complete, cross-platform solution to record, convert and stream audio and video. Libav is a fork of <FFmpeg> and replaces it in the Debian 7 Wheezy and 8 Jessie releases. Multithreaded decoding is available since libav 4:0.7~rc1-1 (bug #575600); MP3 encoding support is available since libav 4:0.7.1-2 (bug #587904). http://libav.org/faq.html http://libav.org/ #libav on irc.freenode.net. |
| 21:03.46 | missmbob | which the bot told you to read about |
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| 21:04.06 | greycat | I'm betting he didn't ask the bot about it. Instead, he started talking about Raspbian for some reason. |
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| 21:05.25 | kieppie | webstral: AlternativeTo serves me well many times: http://alternativeto.net/software/cpanel/?license=opensource&platform=linux |
| 21:05.26 | kieppie | Also, Ohloh/OpenHub |
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| 21:06.24 | kieppie | k |
| 21:06.25 | kieppie | thanks |
| 21:06.26 | kieppie | bb |
| 21:06.26 | kieppie | ttyl |
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| 21:08.29 | jhutchins_wk | !webmin |
| 21:08.30 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 21:09.09 | jhutchins_wk | webstral: /msg dpkg free whcp |
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| 21:13.00 | r00st3r | When I run 'aptitude update' I get a warning: W: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/debian/dists/jessie/InRelease: W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. -- Why is this? I have never encountered that before. I have amd64/ i386 multiarch. Nameserver is working. And it is the same with other mirrors. Ideas? |
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| 21:20.23 | xof1s | hello. How do you specify ip address which uses application? I have added 30 IPs on my NIC (enp5s0) and want to use one of these IP's for any command. Is that possible? Thanks |
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| 21:20.59 | greycat | Daemons that listen on a TCP port can specify which address to listen to, or "0" to listen to all interfaces. |
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| 21:21.18 | greycat | Configuring the daemon to listen on a given address is up to the individual daemon. |
| 21:21.57 | greycat | e.g. in sshd_config the config option is ListenAddress |
| 21:22.29 | xof1s | greycat: do you react to me? I want to specify source IP address, e.g. `curl google.com` from ip 115.0.0.1, and then again from ip 115.0.0.2 |
| 21:23.00 | greycat | Ask #curl |
| 21:23.19 | missmbob | and you probably shouldn't paste real ip addresses |
| 21:23.33 | greycat | I was about 80% sure you were doing some client-side hacker shit instead of normal white-hat server configs, but I had to give the benefit of the doubt. |
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| 21:24.03 | xof1s | this is not about curl, it's general question how to do that. I want to use another program/script. |
| 21:24.08 | greycat | *plonk* |
| 21:24.25 | xof1s | missmbob: these addresses are fake. But on my host are real. :] |
| 21:24.29 | greycat | Client-side hacker shit. |
| 21:24.33 | greycat | Go away. |
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| 21:25.55 | xof1s | greycat: I don't understand |
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| 21:54.39 | lafleurdubien | does anyone here have experience writing tutorials for Digital Ocean? |
| 21:55.04 | missmbob | lafleurdubien: might wanna try #debian-offtopic |
| 21:55.54 | missmbob | lafleurdubien: and hey apparently there's #digitalocean |
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| 21:57.29 | nickgaw | Is there a direct installlation image for sid or is installing testing then upgrading with non-free firmware the only option? |
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| 21:57.51 | greycat | installing stable and then upgrading is another option |
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| 21:58.11 | nickgaw | true but I like the least upgrade path |
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| 21:58.57 | missmbob | nickgaw: fyi if you're going to be using sid its support is at #debian-next on oftc |
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| 21:59.49 | nickgaw | ok |
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| 22:00.44 | nickgaw | If I wish to install stable and do encrypted file systems and want to not need lvm and not wait the long time it takes to clear out an entire disk is this possible at all provided I have a boot partition? |
| 22:01.58 | missmbob | sure. you can just cancel out of the erasing process btw. it doesnt stop the installer, it just wont overwrite the current data. which might not be very smart but you can |
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| 22:03.00 | nickgaw | I have / and /home on different partitions is there a way to keep one of them unencrypted or do I first need to completely backup the one I don't want to lose? |
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| 22:06.00 | missmbob | i dont understand what you're asking. you encrypt only what you want. what you encrypt will be lost forever. whatevver is on that partition must be backed up to be restored |
| 22:06.24 | nickgaw | So there is no way to encrypt in place? |
| 22:06.28 | missmbob | no |
| 22:06.47 | nickgaw | Do I need to use lvm to do the encryption or not? |
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| 22:07.26 | missmbob | i dont think the installer requires lvm. that'd be weird. i always use lvm though so i cant say for certain |
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| 22:08.29 | nickgaw | Is it normal for not all of the space to be around after you do encryption of an entire disk like with 1 TB disk I would only have 800 gigs left for my own use? |
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| 22:09.06 | somiaj | nickgaw: you are using ext4 file systems inside the encryption? |
| 22:09.21 | nickgaw | yes what ever the default is |
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| 22:09.50 | somiaj | nickgaw: I'm sure encryption takes up some space, but defaults on ext4 file system is to reserve 5% for root, which can be a large number on a big filesystem |
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| 22:10.31 | nickgaw | so regardless I won't have the full 1 TB and I usually only reseve %1 for root |
| 22:10.33 | ryouma | encryption should take up no space except for the tiny header, no? |
| 22:10.43 | somiaj | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/124669/how-much-storage-overhead-comes-along-with-cryptsetup-and-ext4 |
| 22:11.03 | ryouma | i think it's inodes, reservation for root, and who knows |
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| 22:11.24 | somiaj | nickgaw: also note that some drives when they say TB mean 10^(whatever power) and others use 1024, so this can lead to differences between what the drive is and what size you get. |
| 22:11.32 | nickgaw | How small can I make the boot partition it is a MBR system? |
| 22:11.51 | greycat | I think *all* the drive manufacturers switched over to the powers-of-10 system. |
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| 22:21.37 | ryouma | scsi used the other one |
| 22:21.59 | ryouma | nickgaw: df can show either |
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| 22:22.55 | nickgaw | I mean how large should I make the /boot partition when I reinstall the system if I want the rest of the space to be encrypted? |
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| 22:23.13 | missmbob | i like having 250M |
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| 22:24.33 | Shadow_7 | Large enough to convert it to a full install when you find out you don't need it. |
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| 22:31.06 | google77 | hi |
| 22:31.23 | google77 | so, stretch is now in full freeze? |
| 22:31.40 | missmbob | yes |
| 22:31.45 | google77 | Does that mean it will become stable soonish? |
| 22:32.01 | missmbob | google77: when the green gets to 0 https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
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| 22:32.23 | google77 | nice |
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| 22:33.24 | nickgaw | in experimental there is newer packages then sid so if I want to upgrade the orca screen reader or emacs I can upgrade one package at a time but could the entire system break with just one package upgrade? |
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| 22:34.22 | somiaj | nickgaw: experimential is not a complete set of packages. Packages are put there because they are too unstable for sid, or to not yet ready for sid. Note during the freeze, they are also put there because dev's don't want to bump the sid version until after the release |
| 22:34.26 | somiaj | !slushy |
| 22:34.27 | dpkg | When a <testing> release becomes frozen, <unstable> tends to partially freeze as well. This is because developers are reluctant to upload radically new software to unstable, in case the frozen software in testing needs minor updates and to fix release critical bugs which keep testing from becoming <stable>. |
| 22:34.52 | somiaj | nickgaw: you should only grab a packages from experimential as you need them, but I would suggest waiting for them to make it into sid. |
| 22:36.00 | stoned | Maybe try building it yourself? |
| 22:36.04 | stoned | That's always fun. |
| 22:36.12 | google77 | So it's a matter of months maybe weeks when testing becomes stable, nice... |
| 22:36.18 | stoned | yes. |
| 22:36.19 | stoned | Very nice. |
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| 22:36.33 | stoned | I love my 3.16 kernel and stable desktop that doesn't crash or go goofy. |
| 22:36.59 | somiaj | google77: months, sometime this summer is my rough bet, others have been more specific |
| 22:37.03 | somiaj | !stretch pool 1 |
| 22:37.04 | dpkg | ! nauticalnexus=2017-04-19 cruncher=2017-04-12 cruncher=2017-02-18 bæbÄ«len=2017-05-06 TomTomTosch=2017-08-08 greycat=2017-08-15 jellÿ=2017-03-17 themÃll=2017-05-01 |
| 22:37.29 | ryouma | google77: you had me going there |
| 22:37.54 | nickgaw | dpkg buzz |
| 22:37.54 | dpkg | it has been said that buzz is Debian 1.1, released June 1996 (474 packages, 2.0 kernel, fully ELF, dpkg). Ask me about <archive>. |
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| 22:37.59 | google77 | well, still fine |
| 22:38.17 | nickgaw | dpkg 0.1 |
| 22:38.18 | dpkg | no idea, nickgaw |
| 22:38.27 | nickgaw | dpkg debian 0.1 |
| 22:38.28 | dpkg | nickgaw: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
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| 22:38.53 | nickgaw | What is the first debian version that ever came out before buzz? |
| 22:39.25 | Zathras | nickgaw, https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-detailed.en.html |
| 22:39.29 | google77 | dpkg debian 1.0 |
| 22:39.29 | dpkg | i heard debian 1.0 is a mistake by InfoMagic. They released an unstable version of Debian as 1.0. Google groups archives the posting by Bruce Perens announcing this at http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=m0tPBxF-000F9vC%40mongo.pixar.com . The first stable Debian release was 1.1, ask me about <buzz>. |
| 22:40.31 | nickgaw | can buzz still be installed into a virtual machine or sarge with the debian-installer? |
| 22:40.44 | nickgaw | dpkg sarge |
| 22:40.44 | dpkg | Sarge is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 3.1, released June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31, this release is no longer supported. Sarge users should upgrade to Etch, ask me about <sarge->etch>. Removed from the mirrors; ask me about <sarge sources.list>, <sarge-backports>. Get old sarge ISOs here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r8/ http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSarge |
| 22:41.34 | nickgaw | dpkg debian-installer |
| 22:41.34 | dpkg | Debian 8 "Jessie" is now the "stable" Debian release. See http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/debian-installer/ for images. Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . If you want to make custom install CDs, start with d-i. IRC: #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net. See also <errata>, <g-i>. |
| 22:41.48 | missmbob | nickgaw: please /msg the bot if it's for yourself |
| 22:41.59 | google77 | dpkg debian 0.93 |
| 22:42.00 | dpkg | google77: no idea |
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| 22:42.04 | google77 | dpkg debian 0.93r6 |
| 22:42.04 | dpkg | google77: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 22:42.43 | nickgaw | how do I contact dpkg's owner? |
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| 22:43.17 | missmbob | nickgaw: dondelelcaro owns it. |
| 22:43.24 | missmbob | at least he did |
| 22:43.50 | nickgaw | so how can you add to dpkg |
| 22:44.22 | missmbob | for simple things just "dpkg foo is blahblah" |
| 22:44.40 | nickgaw | can you delete things from there that you add? |
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| 22:45.00 | Shadow_7 | so... buzz, rex, bo, hamm, slink, potato, woody (started using debian at woody), sarge, etch, lenny, squeeze, wheezy, jessie, stretch (soon) |
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| 22:45.45 | dokma | Is there anything like /usr/bin/fold that handles unicode properly? |
| 22:45.52 | missmbob | nickgaw: you can replace...i dont know about delete |
| 22:47.13 | nickgaw | How was debian installed before the debian-installer? |
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| 22:50.16 | nickgaw | Is there such a version of linux where I can have both rpm and dpkg and if I install a rpm dpkg will at least know about it so I can't install the same package using two package managers? |
| 22:50.23 | Shadow_7 | nickgaw: first installed it with floppies (26 for the whole set) |
| 22:50.41 | Shadow_7 | nickgaw: alien will convert .rpm to .deb |
| 22:50.48 | nickgaw | so copying everything then dpkg? |
| 22:51.08 | nickgaw | do I need rpm installed as well? |
| 22:51.29 | missmbob | you want to. sometimes you have to extract something, for example. |
| 22:51.49 | oiaohm | nickgaw: changing the package format is straight forwards having the dependancies work that is a totally different problem. |
| 22:51.50 | Shadow_7 | the depends: of alien has rpm |
| 22:52.20 | missmbob | i recommend you not touch rpm's on debian other than extracting them for whatever reason |
| 22:52.25 | nickgaw | could I build rpms on debian if the rpm tools were installed so I could do all packaging on debian? |
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| 22:53.11 | Shadow_7 | probably better off using a vm or chroot for that |
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| 22:53.21 | oiaohm | nickgaw: again mostly no. The binaries will be build with debian dependancies. The reality is redhat and debian don't always name libraries the same. |
| 22:53.46 | dbarton | oiaohm WORD, was writing the same :) |
| 22:54.42 | oiaohm | nickgaw: if you really going cross distribution you do need to look at flatpak where you are selecting a runtime with application. |
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| 22:55.01 | dbarton | nickgaw you could probably do it if you don't need any libs etcâ¦Â but even then, I ran into problems a few years ago when I've built an platform-independent RPM on RHEL6, because it wasn't compatible with RHEL5 |
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| 22:55.02 | nickgaw | ok |
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| 22:56.42 | oiaohm | nickgaw: there are a lot of evils like gnu libc uses versioned functions. So you program using libc features can throw can fail if it built with a newer version of libc than the platform people attempt to install on. |
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| 22:57.21 | oiaohm | nickgaw: changing the package format is easy. Having the binary run is hard. |
| 22:57.51 | missmbob | nickgaw: look at appimage too |
| 22:58.57 | nickgaw | Does redhat and debian developers ever communicate? |
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| 22:59.18 | oiaohm | nickgaw: and as dbarton noted that even when you don't need to change package format you can have the complete thing fail. |
| 22:59.40 | oiaohm | nickgaw: debian and redhat developer to talk to each other on different projects and at conferences. |
| 22:59.46 | nickgaw | understandable |
| 22:59.51 | oiaohm | nickgaw: but that does not make them all in the same page. |
| 23:00.07 | nickgaw | what I mean is do they get along at all? |
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| 23:00.39 | dbarton | nickgaw completely different community⦠|
| 23:01.02 | oiaohm | Redhat and Debian have the same fault. If you have a package built for a particular release it may not work on newer or older. |
| 23:01.13 | dbarton | debian is open-source, RHEL isâ¦Â well it is open-source⦠but it's driven by a sales-driven company |
| 23:01.26 | oiaohm | Unless you go out of way to achieve that. |
| 23:01.59 | oiaohm | nickgaw: really flatpak and appimage are attempt to go cross platform and avoid as much of the trouble as possible. |
| 23:02.09 | nickgaw | are there no pay version of debian where secuity staff handle all updates for the user? |
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| 23:02.33 | missmbob | nickgaw: there are third party companies that do that. nothing official |
| 23:02.48 | dbarton | nickgaw enterprise version? there isn't⦠but there are 3rd party companies doing that for you as a service |
| 23:02.59 | dbarton | missmbob damn I was slower :) |
| 23:03.18 | nickgaw | any advantages of those over the free security team? |
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| 23:03.39 | missmbob | you get to sit on your ass all day |
| 23:04.17 | oiaohm | nickgaw: can be in LTS versions. Where since you can be paying the companies taking care of the LTS version you have say in what packages are included in debian LTS for maintaince. |
| 23:04.18 | dbarton | nickgaw you've different issuesâ¦Â IMHO RedHat is one of the biggest insurance companies out there ;) they sell you "security" and "stability"⦠doesn't mean they do that well. most of the enterprise companies are afraid of "risks" so they "buy" security and therefore RHEL⦠|
| 23:04.39 | nickgaw | why does unattended-upgrades not upgrade everything from security even when turned on? |
| 23:05.04 | missmbob | nickgaw: did you read the wiki? it has some config settings you might want |
| 23:05.24 | oiaohm | nickgaw: some cases it need a conflict resolve. That you have something installed preventing the update. |
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| 23:08.32 | nickgaw | where is the default /etc/crontab as mine was changed and I want to restore the default one? |
| 23:09.30 | missmbob | nickgaw: https://paste.debian.net/917352/ |
| 23:10.49 | nickgaw | How can I take that and put it in place? |
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| 23:11.11 | missmbob | nickgaw: wget https://paste.debian.net/plain/917352 |
| 23:11.32 | nickgaw | ok will get it |
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| 23:30.15 | ht | hi |
| 23:30.31 | ht | ok debian 8.7 is the current release :) |
| 23:31.01 | ht | I'm trying to understand the version number format |
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| 23:31.26 | ht | can I get from 8.6 to 8.7 by doing apt-get upgrade? |
| 23:31.33 | missmbob | yes |
| 23:31.37 | ht | ok |
| 23:31.38 | ht | .) |
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| 23:35.46 | LennyKitty | on virt-manager |
| 23:35.49 | LennyKitty | how do I open a vm confifg |
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| 23:36.00 | somiaj | LennyKitty: virsh edit vm-name |
| 23:36.12 | somiaj | LennyKitty: there may be an option to do that, but with virsh you can edit the xml directly |
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| 23:38.25 | LennyKitty | somiaj, virt-manager is the gui |
| 23:38.44 | somiaj | correct, I'm unsure if the gui has such an option, if not just use virsh, it should modify the same vms |
| 23:40.00 | somiaj | LennyKitty: I'm not getting any hits of ways to do it through the gui interface, but virsh should work |
| 23:41.08 | LennyKitty | somiaj, ive done it before I just need to know how to open it :C |
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