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| 00:01.32 | ksft | When I run `optirun glxgears`, the window that appears is white with specks of cyan, magenta, and yellow |
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| 00:03.54 | Klaus_Dieter | amz3: apt-get src aptitude fetches the source. |
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| 00:06.16 | jrtc27 | Klaus_Dieter: amz3: or "debcheckout aptitude" (you'll need to install devscripts) |
| 00:06.51 | amz3 | tx |
| 00:08.25 | Klaus_Dieter | so what can I do about this signing issue of the apt repository? |
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| 00:15.46 | jrtc27 | Klaus_Dieter: does apt-key think the key is present? |
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| 00:17.28 | Klaus_Dieter | jrtc27: yes it does |
| 00:17.55 | Klaus_Dieter | jrtc27: http://paste.debian.net/917902/ |
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| 00:18.08 | Klaus_Dieter | the bottom one |
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| 00:19.29 | jrtc27 | what hash algorithm is used to sign the file? |
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| 00:20.00 | jrtc27 | gpg --list-packets on InRelease should tell you |
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| 00:20.36 | Klaus_Dieter | I am not sure: http://paste.debian.net/917903/ |
| 00:21.25 | Klaus_Dieter | the repository and the signing is done by aptly |
| 00:21.41 | jrtc27 | oh even easier, InRelease itself says Hash: SHA1 right at the top |
| 00:21.46 | jrtc27 | you need to use something stronger than SHA1 |
| 00:22.16 | Klaus_Dieter | ah so that is it. |
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| 00:25.00 | Klaus_Dieter | this explains why this is only happening with 8.7 and not with 8.0 |
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| 00:27.46 | Klaus_Dieter | unfortunaly aptly is required in a newer version than 0.8.3 so I will have to use the version from testing |
| 00:27.52 | Klaus_Dieter | this will be fun... :/ |
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| 00:28.53 | jrtc27 | can you modify gpg.conf? |
| 00:28.59 | jrtc27 | I don't know if aptly picks that up |
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| 00:29.52 | Klaus_Dieter | it may be |
| 00:29.58 | Klaus_Dieter | from the manpage it is signing with gpg |
| 00:30.09 | Klaus_Dieter | but it is unclear whether it is the program or the general mechanism used |
| 00:30.18 | dtcrshr | hello eveyrone. I cloned a debian machine which has LVM on its disk. On the destination machine i cannot boot with an error that the vg was not found. Booting on a live machine I edited the fstab so the blkid from the root partition was correct, I got grub back but still the system boots to initramfs |
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| 00:30.54 | dtcrshr | is there any other ways to repair the destination machine so it boots correctly? I can see all the vgs, lvs, pvs on the live machine |
| 00:31.01 | Klaus_Dieter | jrtc27: I can edit gpg.conf what should I place to check whether aptly uses that? |
| 00:32.03 | Klaus_Dieter | ah, should be --digest-algo SHA256 |
| 00:32.28 | jrtc27 | either digest-algo SHA256 or personal-digest-algo |
| 00:32.51 | jrtc27 | or SHA512 (I assume all versions of apt support that) |
| 00:33.34 | Klaus_Dieter | jrtc27: aptly picks up whatever is in gpg.conf |
| 00:33.41 | Klaus_Dieter | I now have a sha 256 signed inRelease |
| 00:33.44 | jrtc27 | \o/ |
| 00:34.06 | Klaus_Dieter | and the warning is gone on the system where I want to install its packages |
| 00:34.18 | Klaus_Dieter | thank you very much I hardly would have come up with that myself! :) |
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| 00:37.39 | amcorreia | anyone have installed kubernetes in debian using APT? |
| 00:38.21 | c-c | amcorreia: its not in Jessie |
| 00:38.42 | kingkong- | hi. on "history" output, i can see a command on 3259. line. how can i run it or copy in short way by recall from history? |
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| 00:39.09 | c-c | kingkong-: !command |
| 00:39.29 | c-c | (reruns the last match for 'command') |
| 00:39.34 | amcorreia | c-c, the only repository i've found (apt.kubernetes.io) don't have even for wheezy |
| 00:39.40 | Klaus_Dieter | the error message is pretty horrible though as the signature is actually valid but not trusted due to the weak hash |
| 00:41.10 | borsin | kingkong-: ctrl + r, then type part of the beginning of line 3259 |
| 00:43.21 | kingkong- | !command |
| 00:43.42 | c-c | be careful with that |
| 00:43.43 | kingkong- | c-c: but i dont need the last match. |
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| 00:44.16 | kingkong- | borsin: it shows another command used later. can i jump another match ? |
| 00:44.45 | c-c | kingkong-: are you using bash |
| 00:45.24 | kingkong- | yes |
| 00:46.05 | kingkong- | cant recall it as line number shortly ? |
| 00:46.37 | borsin | kingkong-: repeat ctrl + r until you find it or as i said since you know what the command looks like with 'history' type until you get that one |
| 00:46.41 | c-c | no |
| 00:46.47 | c-c | kingkong-: !<linenumber> |
| 00:46.50 | c-c | fex |
| 00:46.55 | c-c | !3259 |
| 00:48.19 | c-c | you may want to test first to be safe: $ cat !3259 |
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| 00:48.41 | Hello71 | no such file or directory: `ls' |
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| 00:49.35 | c-c | Hello71: your bash is fail? |
| 00:50.04 | Hello71 | dunno why you're trying to cat a command |
| 00:50.22 | c-c | Hello71: to see if its the correct one |
| 00:50.33 | Hello71 | sigh |
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| 00:51.06 | c-c | You can sigh all you like until you manage a multi-million server, failure of which gets you sacked |
| 00:51.44 | Hello71 | multi-million transistors I'm sure. |
| 00:52.04 | Hello71 | given that apparently you don't know how to print a string in bourne-compatible shell |
| 00:52.43 | kingkong- | boths of them worked. thanks you guys. :) |
| 00:52.46 | c-c | yeah well |
| 00:53.10 | c-c | Hello71: at least I didnt come around dorking when other people help people :) |
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| 00:53.58 | Hello71 | reminds me of a conversation I overheard: "copy it to temp. no, temp. TEE EM PEE." |
| 00:54.20 | c-c | - its not pretty but should be safe |
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| 01:02.45 | kingkong- | its possible to erase some lines from history ? for example "logout" commands |
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| 01:08.04 | c-c | kingkong-: yea |
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| 01:10.27 | veek | is there a way to recover files or fix the linux filesystem.. my disk was dropped and i rebooted into linux, and damaged the fs.. read works. i get: EXT4-fs (sda2): error loading journal |
| 01:10.35 | veek | JBD2: IO error reading journal superblock |
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| 01:10.57 | c-c | veek: yes there is |
| 01:11.15 | veek | Ooo do tell |
| 01:11.35 | c-c | gddrescue f.ex. |
| 01:11.58 | c-c | fsck should run on startup |
| 01:12.13 | veek | are there any books/tutorials that'll help me understand the recovery process |
| 01:12.26 | veek | c-c, i can't mount -o ro |
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| 01:12.52 | c-c | veek: can you look at magicrescue too |
| 01:13.42 | kingkong- | c-c how ? |
| 01:13.58 | c-c | kingkong-: history -d <linenumber> |
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| 01:15.29 | ksft | When I run `optirun glxgears`, the window that appears is white with specks of cyan, magenta, and yellow |
| 01:15.41 | kingkong- | after i run !<number> that line order moves to the end of history ? |
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| 01:27.53 | kingkong- | that deletes 1 line only. can i give number interval or specify commands ? like erase all "logout" from history |
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| 01:34.47 | Hello71 | sed -i -e '/logout/d' .bash_history |
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| 01:53.00 | XRyuu | Hello all |
| 01:53.11 | XRyuu | I installed Debian netinstall |
| 01:53.22 | XRyuu | how can i install Plasma? |
| 01:53.40 | XRyuu | currently in cli no DE installed |
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| 01:55.27 | themill | !install kde |
| 01:55.27 | dpkg | The 'kde-standard' package gets you the common set-up, 'kde-plasma-desktop' and 'kde-plasma-netbook' provide minimal KDE 4 setups with respective flavouring, and 'kde-full' installs everything KDE 4. To install using Debian-Installer (if not using KDE CD-1): from the 'Software selection' dialog, choose "KDE" (use space bar to toggle selections), then "Continue". |
| 01:57.16 | awal1 | XRyuu, just use aptitude search pkgname , plasma, in your case, then look at description (aptitude show pkgname) and install what you need |
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| 01:58.36 | XRyuu | what if i use apt-get install kde-standard and then kde-plasma? |
| 01:59.39 | themill | there's no such package name as kde-plasma |
| 01:59.57 | XRyuu | kde-plasma-netbook sorry |
| 02:00.16 | XRyuu | kde-plasma-desktop that one |
| 02:00.25 | awal1 | aptitude show pkgname |
| 02:00.40 | awal1 | and read descriptions |
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| 02:02.10 | awal1 | debian installer installs kde-standard |
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| 02:02.50 | awal1 | well, since jessie, if not wrong, task-desktop-kde |
| 02:03.34 | awal1 | task-kde-desktop |
| 02:03.55 | awal1 | ,v task-kde-desktop |
| 02:03.56 | judd | Package: task-kde-desktop on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.14.1; jessie: 3.31+deb8u1; sid: 3.39; stretch: 3.39 |
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| 02:15.52 | kingkong- | Hello71: thx, do i replace .bash_history with my history file name ? |
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| 02:30.54 | kingkong- | if yes, this command didn't erase logout lines from history |
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| 03:04.26 | foul_owl | Does anyone here use awesomewm or is it deprecated |
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| 03:16.22 | foul_owl | Or is there a backport for awesomewm somewhere? |
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| 03:18.03 | missmbob | no |
| 03:18.21 | foul_owl | the version taht ships with jessie was compiled in 2013... :( |
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| 03:21.34 | coruja | ,v awesome |
| 03:21.35 | judd | Package: awesome on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.4.13-1; jessie: 3.4.15-1+b1; sid: 4.0-1; stretch: 4.0-1 |
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| 03:22.09 | foul_owl | awesome --version |
| 03:22.13 | foul_owl | Build: Feb 17 2013 21:10:46 for x86_64 by gcc version 4.7.2 (buildd@barber) |
| 03:23.05 | foul_owl | I understand keeping a "stable" version in the main repos, but why not toss a build or three into jessie backports? |
| 03:23.36 | themill | "why not" doesn't magically make volunteers appear |
| 03:23.49 | foul_owl | I volunteer |
| 03:23.51 | coruja | with a bit more patience you may wait for stretch getting stable and being released soon(tm) |
| 03:23.58 | themill | foul_owl: then do it! |
| 03:24.11 | foul_owl | How do I get perms to upload debs to jessie backports? |
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| 03:24.23 | themill | https://backports.debian.org/Contribute/ |
| 03:24.24 | foul_owl | I will happily do that for dozens of buggy packages |
| 03:25.02 | themill | backports is not for fixing bugs |
| 03:26.03 | foul_owl | Ah ok |
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| 03:26.17 | foul_owl | Instead of uploading a newer deb to backports, should I file a bug report instead? |
| 03:26.30 | foul_owl | I would rather contribute a new package than add another report to the pile |
| 03:26.42 | themill | helping get stretch released is probably the most productive thing to do then |
| 03:26.52 | foul_owl | Ah ok! |
| 03:27.19 | foul_owl | What's a good way I can help with that? |
| 03:27.55 | Shadow_7 | if you have patches you can submit them upstream so they filter back downstream eventually |
| 03:28.06 | themill | https://udd.debian.org/bugs/ and/or run how-can-i-help |
| 03:28.16 | foul_owl | Thank you |
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| 03:55.54 | abishai | guys |
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| 03:56.21 | abishai | I just nmaped my server, and there are over a dozen open/filtered UDP ports open |
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| 03:56.57 | abishai | what's up with that, I know I'm not running any services up there |
| 03:57.30 | psychoticwarrior | what services? |
| 03:57.45 | Shadow_7 | dns is port 53 and udp |
| 03:57.51 | psychoticwarrior | yes it is |
| 03:58.00 | bibble | tru dat |
| 03:58.02 | abishai | udp 19722, 20742, 34862.. just some of them |
| 03:58.22 | Shadow_7 | abishai: what does netstat say on the machine you scanned? |
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| 03:59.06 | abishai | netstat -tulpn shows only 2 ports open, sshd and httpd, as it should |
| 03:59.59 | abishai | but those high UDP ports listening are weird, nmap can't find a service, reports 'unknown' |
| 04:00.09 | jsw_ | Did you scan loopback, or one of your eth interfaces? |
| 04:00.40 | abishai | I nmap from my home PC to my server |
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| 04:01.14 | abishai | have you tried nmaping your boxes? |
| 04:01.17 | jsw_ | There may be something (modem? consumer firewall?) that has those ports open in between your pc and server? |
| 04:01.43 | jsw_ | No, sorry, wrong direction. That's not it. |
| 04:01.52 | abishai | nmap -sS -sU -T4 -A -v -PE -PP -PS80,443 -PA3389 -PU40125 -PY -g 53 --script "default or (discovery and safe)" |
| 04:01.56 | abishai | try this |
| 04:02.15 | abishai | (script is included in windows gui version of nmap) |
| 04:02.28 | Shadow_7 | is X running on said machine? |
| 04:02.44 | Shadow_7 | xauth list |
| 04:02.45 | abishai | noway, it's a web server |
| 04:03.04 | jsw_ | Use telnet to connect on those ports. What banner do you get? |
| 04:04.28 | abishai | nothing. 'Connection Refused' |
| 04:05.14 | jsw_ | ... Then nmap or the script is lying to you I would think. |
| 04:05.15 | abishai | could be some systemd sockets with no services behind |
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| 04:07.49 | psychoticwarrior | udev is a bitch. it should always be disabled |
| 04:07.56 | psychoticwarrior | froze my machine |
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| 04:09.02 | bibble | think systemd ntp is on high/random udp port |
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| 04:09.32 | abishai | if anyone wants to test his box, share your results, Im curious |
| 04:10.15 | abishai | let's make happy safe boxes :) |
| 04:11.11 | jsw_ | @abishai, I think you'll need to chase down the inconsistency between the telnet test and your nmap tests before you get any further |
| 04:11.43 | abishai | probably true |
| 04:11.49 | abishai | will look into it |
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| 04:12.30 | jsw_ | Oh - duh. The difference is TCP vs UDP. |
| 04:12.36 | Shadow_7 | does udev even need to run after boot? The /dev/ devices should be created at that point. Baring device hot plugging. |
| 04:14.07 | abishai | jsw_: wait.. yes lol.. fail test, I'll hack up a script to connect with UDP real quick |
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| 04:29.35 | ksft | When I run `optirun glxgears`, the window that appears is white with specks of cyan, magenta, and yellow |
| 04:30.07 | ksft | this is on a laptop with a hybrid Nvidia/Intel graphics card thing |
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| 04:30.55 | abishai | jsw_: I setup a php script, sending a few bytes succeeds but when I try to receive anything, socket_recv() returns false with '[0] The operation completed successfully.' |
| 04:30.59 | ksft | Debian 8.6, Bumblebee 3.2.1 |
| 04:31.31 | abishai | jsw_: note that the same happens to ANY UDP port, not just the ones nmap reported 'open/filtered' |
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| 04:32.27 | abishai | jsw_: so what can I say, probably some nmap cmdline weirdness |
| 04:32.36 | jsw_ | abishai, I'm afraid I'm not familiar with php enough to offer advice on that. What about netcat? |
| 04:37.00 | abishai | jsw_: nc -vnzu server.ip 1-65535 |
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| 04:37.40 | abishai | jsw_: reports ALL udp ports as '(UNKNOWN) [x.x.x.x] 65518 (?) open' |
| 04:38.39 | abishai | jsw_: I stopped scanning at port 64000 or so because it was getting ridiculous |
| 04:39.06 | abishai | jsw_: can you try on your box |
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| 04:41.05 | userro | there are only 64000 ports you can't scan more |
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| 04:42.02 | abishai | nc started scanning from 65k downwards |
| 04:42.17 | userro | kk |
| 04:42.55 | jsw_ | tldr I'd chalk it up to a red herring |
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| 04:43.12 | abishai | ? |
| 04:44.26 | jsw_ | Unless both process bind to aport with the right flag IIUC the netcat test should have revealed any ports already in use. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4364434/let-two-udp-servers-listen-on-the-same-port |
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| 04:50.22 | veek | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.19 | userro | 65,536 |
| 04:51.24 | userro | just checked |
| 04:51.34 | userro | I thought it was 64000 |
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| 05:59.04 | johanskizo | how to install wine version 2.2 in debian jessie |
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| 06:00.26 | theraspberry | johanskizo: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+install+wine+version+2.2+in+debian+jessie |
| 06:01.06 | johanskizo | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 06:01.06 | johanskizo | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:01.17 | theraspberry | well |
| 06:01.25 | johanskizo | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
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| 06:01.41 | theraspberry | man, I love systems with broken packages. |
| 06:01.48 | theraspberry | sorry. |
| 06:01.55 | johanskizo | but i need solution |
| 06:02.09 | theraspberry | I can't help you right now. I just wanted to post the lmgtfy link. |
| 06:03.44 | johanskizo | but why? |
| 06:06.19 | somiaj | johanskizo: where are you getting this wine-staging package? Anyways debian doesn't support winehq packages, are you just downloading the deb or ddi you add their repo. |
| 06:06.35 | somiaj | debian really only supports the debian wine packages. |
| 06:06.41 | somiaj | ,v wine-development |
| 06:06.42 | judd | Package: wine-development on amd64 -- jessie: 1.7.29-4; jessie-backports: 2.0-3~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.0-3; sid: 2.0-3; experimental: 2.1-1; experimental: 2.2-1 |
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| 06:07.08 | somiaj | johanskizo: in which case wine-development of version 2.0 from jessie-backports is the newest that is available. |
| 06:08.01 | johanskizo | somaj: can you send me link the package for 64bit system? |
| 06:08.33 | somiaj | in debian you will want to add the jessie-backports to your sources.list then apt-get -t jessie-backports install wine-development |
| 06:08.39 | somiaj | !jessie-backports |
| 06:08.39 | dpkg | Some packages intended for Stretch (Debian 9) but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. See <http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/>. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
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| 06:38.00 | kacie | hi |
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| 06:40.18 | kacie | man/info pages, READMEs |
| 06:40.41 | catbehemoth | !bdo |
| 06:40.41 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
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| 06:45.28 | catbehemoth | !bdo kernel |
| 06:45.29 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "jessie-backports" repository. Ask me about <jessie backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t jessie-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
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| 07:18.41 | bigterd | it has them marked as non-trimmed, but not technically rescued. i edited the logfile start position, and it keeps basically skipping and leaving them as non-trimmed. |
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| 07:39.02 | kingsley | After removing and adding PCI cards, why would all sound break expect for "bloop"s when adjusting pavucontrol's volume slider? |
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| 07:48.10 | Danielss89 | Hi, i'm fairly new to linux, so this might be a dumb question. I'm trying to run apt-update but i'm getting "gzip: stdout: No space left on device" |
| 07:48.30 | Shadow_7 | Danielss89: df |
| 07:48.32 | Danielss89 | When i run df i get: http://take.ms/QBrON |
| 07:48.44 | Danielss89 | is apt using /dev/md1 ? |
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| 07:49.40 | Shadow_7 | if there's a kernel update it will use /boot/ |
| 07:49.46 | Shadow_7 | or grub updates |
| 07:50.00 | Shadow_7 | otherwise most of apt downloads go to /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 07:51.31 | Danielss89 | ok, any idea why i get the no space left? |
| 07:51.49 | kingsley | Danielss89: Yeah, "gzip: stdout: No space left on device" looks a lot to me like apt-update failed trying to write data to a full frive. |
| 07:52.39 | kingsley | Danielss89: Oops! Sorry! I meant to write "...trying to write data to a full Drive". |
| 07:53.08 | Danielss89 | but as i can see, only the boot one is full |
| 07:53.14 | Danielss89 | and if it doesn't try to write that |
| 07:53.30 | Danielss89 | actually |
| 07:53.31 | Danielss89 | update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-40-generic |
| 07:53.50 | Danielss89 | can i assign more space to boot? |
| 07:53.51 | Danielss89 | :D |
| 07:54.27 | kingsley | Danielss89: Why? I suspect a.) The drive is full. It happens. Just like Shadow_7 suggested, the "df" command should reveal full drives. b.) Maybe apt-update is writing to the wrong drive. |
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| 07:54.41 | SPF | Danielss89: maybe you can try apt-get autoremove, in case you have multiple old kernels in /boot |
| 07:54.53 | Danielss89 | http://take.ms/TBM7M i'll try |
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| 07:56.42 | borsin | does /var exist - is /var on a partition not mounted? do you see a lost+found when ls -l /var? |
| 07:57.24 | Danielss89 | that helped a lot |
| 07:57.27 | Danielss89 | thanks guys |
| 07:57.31 | Danielss89 | 35% used on boot now |
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| 09:15.26 | alioui_ | judd, file Python.h |
| 09:15.29 | judd | Search for Python.h in jessie/amd64: [truncated] python-cxx-dev: usr/include/CXX/WrapPython.h; libfontforge-dev: usr/include/fontforge/ffpython.h; libpyside-dev: usr/include/PySide/QtCore/pyside_qtcore_python.h, usr/include/PySide/QtDeclarative/pyside_qtdeclarative_python.h, usr/include/PySide/QtGui/pyside_qtgui_python.h, usr/include/PySide/QtHelp/pyside_qthelp_python.h, |
| 09:15.31 | judd | usr/include/PySide/QtNetwork/pyside_qtnetwork_python.h, usr/include/PySide/QtOpenGL/pyside_qtopengl_python.h, usr/include/PySide/QtScript/pyside_qtscript_python.h, usr/include/PySide/QtScriptTools/pyside_qtscripttools_python.h, usr/include/PySide/QtSql/pyside_qtsql_python.h, usr/include/PySide/QtSvg/pyside_qtsvg_python.h, usr/include/PySide/QtTest/pyside_qttest_python.h, (1 more message) |
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| 09:27.24 | NewEd | hello |
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| 10:07.24 | nezZario | Might be a really dumb question but I can't find it in the docs stated or implied really |
| 10:07.46 | nezZario | In /etc/apt/preferences.d -- are the Pin Priorities .. is priority "1" a "high" or "low" priority ? |
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| 10:12.15 | nezZario | Ahh disregard finally found a line that clarifies, .. higher number is higher priority |
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| 10:15.26 | mernilio | Hello all! Debian men <-- my favorite kind of men! |
| 10:15.40 | bazhang | hi mernilio |
| 10:16.28 | mernilio | And debian woman! We do need more females here in free software! |
| 10:16.40 | babilen | nezZario: Just out of curiosity: What are you trying to achieve? |
| 10:16.44 | bazhang | mernilio, fnordistus? |
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| 10:17.35 | mernilio | bazhang: Im not from iceland ^^ |
| 10:18.07 | bazhang | mernilio, #debian-offtopic for chatter |
| 10:18.29 | mernilio | sure... note taken! ;-) |
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| 10:26.20 | nezZario | babilen: nginx with http2 + learn how to use preferences |
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| 10:28.00 | nezZario | So alright, this all makes pretty decent sense and I'm fairly confident except I don't understand the a= n= v= c= o= l= options on the Pin: line.. Particularly the Component, Origin, and Label |
| 10:28.26 | nezZario | It makes perfect sense when we're using the official Debian repos, but how do I find the Label or Origin of a third party repository ? |
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| 10:31.11 | nezZario | Hm actually apt-cache policy shows some of the info |
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| 10:34.57 | babilen | nezZario: Which version of Debian do you run? |
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| 10:35.20 | babilen | I'd *strongly* recommend to not mix releases |
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| 10:38.06 | babilen | judd: v nginx --release jessie-backports |
| 10:38.08 | judd | Package: nginx on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 1.10.3-1~bpo8+1 |
| 10:38.26 | babilen | nezZario: I have some deployments with http2 running on jessie with nginx from jessie-backports ^^ |
| 10:38.44 | babilen | (assuming you run jessie) |
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| 11:12.12 | kacie | mass router updates? |
| 11:12.15 | quack_ | Hi |
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| 11:13.14 | quack_ | Can someone link me a pirate copy of linux pleas. my neighbour gifted me this computer but i don't know how to upgrade it |
| 11:13.34 | quack_ | Linux 10 please |
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| 11:13.40 | bazhang | quack_, no such thing |
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| 11:13.45 | kacie | its free quack |
| 11:13.49 | bazhang | quack_, go play elsewhere |
| 11:13.59 | kacie | no need to link here |
| 11:14.04 | quack_ | bazhang please link it, linux 10 |
| 11:14.16 | bazhang | quack_, stop asking |
| 11:14.39 | bazhang | !ops | quack_ trolling |
| 11:14.40 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang complains about: | quack_ trolling |
| 11:14.45 | quack_ | I neeed linux 10 to watch vidoes |
| 11:14.52 | kacie | la la la, life is also free so enjoy the ride |
| 11:15.34 | quack_ | I walways see the flash player message, I downloaded it but it doesn't work. |
| 11:15.35 | bazhang | quack_, there is no such thing, stop asking |
| 11:16.00 | bazhang | quack_, there is no linux 10, stop the nonsense |
| 11:16.05 | quack_ | How can I watch videos on my computer? My daughter needs this for scholl too |
| 11:16.15 | kacie | bazhang ruins the fun |
| 11:16.39 | kacie | bazhang :) |
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| 11:18.32 | quack_ | Don't fucking call me racist |
| 11:18.40 | quack_ | systemd fucked my machine |
| 11:18.49 | quack_ | I had to send it to the fuciking tip |
| 11:19.04 | quack_ | I also beat my wife because of systemd |
| 11:19.18 | quack_ | Ian killed himslfpo because of systemd |
| 11:19.52 | quack_ | I killed my child because systemd |
| 11:19.53 | kacie | quack runlevel -666 is your best chance of survival |
| 11:19.56 | Pepe | Hello guys |
| 11:20.00 | Pepe | what can I do with http://pastebin.com/2Upsrs6T ? |
| 11:20.06 | quack_ | Pepe |
| 11:20.21 | quack_ | systemd made me kill my own child |
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| 11:20.37 | kacie | im out. server updates early tomorrow |
| 11:21.58 | kacie | btw ops, kill the trolls |
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| 11:32.26 | nezZario | So, just out of curiosity |
| 11:33.42 | nezZario | There is, for example, https://packages.sury.org/nginx/ and https://packages.sury.org/php/ .... Neither of them specify any kind of 'Label', or unique 'Component' or 'Origin' and they're both on the same hostname. There is no way to setup separate pinning for those two third party repos, are there? |
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| 11:35.44 | abrotman | What is sury.org? |
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| 11:37.12 | nezZario | Some third party apt repo |
| 11:37.36 | nezZario | i.e. I have deb https://packages.sury.org/php/ jessie main ... deb https://packages.sury.org/nginx/ jessie main |
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| 11:37.42 | abrotman | nezZario: I'd say no |
| 11:37.51 | abrotman | (though, I also wouldn't be using third party repos like that) |
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| 11:41.14 | Pepe | hm noone can help me?:( |
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| 11:41.23 | nezZario | Honestly? I'm not even going to use them right now -- that's actually why I'm asking this. What I need is _currently_ in debian testing and I'll just enable it like that. Note that there are only a few packages in each of these repos (... they're not complete systems) |
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| 11:42.17 | nezZario | What I want to do is put those repositories in my server templates, .. both _individually_ with a Priority of -1 .. so if a month from now, .. I want to pull/upgrade php from that repo it's easy .. |
| 11:42.24 | nezZario | And honestly I'm downright curious about this |
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| 11:45.34 | babilen | nezZario: As I said: Use nginx from jessie-backports |
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| 11:48.16 | tw | How do I properly set up a user service unit to kill itself prior to sleep/hibernation/hybrid and execute a restore function after wake if it was killed this way? I guess more simply, how do I define units that execute some action prior to PM stops and after PM wakes? |
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| 11:53.12 | tw | More specifically I need to unmount/unlock network resources like SMB and kill some 3rd party programs that don't like hibernation or cause restores to take a really long time until they time out. |
| 11:53.37 | Alina-malina | I need to convert some pdf file to html, but i get encoding messup with pdftohtml, is there anyway to convert it correctly? |
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| 11:54.38 | thyriaen | i am trying to get f.lux ( https://justgetflux.com/ ) to work - but it does not change anything when i hit preview :: no errors - do you guys know what could be the issue or whom i could ask about it ? :) |
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| 11:56.36 | nkuttler | Alina-malina: just set the encoding to whatever it is in the html head |
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| 12:02.33 | Alina-malina | nkuttler, where? |
| 12:03.41 | tw | in the browser or in the http. |
| 12:03.49 | tw | *httpd |
| 12:03.52 | sherm | https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_charset.asp |
| 12:04.37 | Alina-malina | its a pdf file in |
| 12:04.41 | Alina-malina | local directory |
| 12:04.45 | Alina-malina | i need to convert it to html |
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| 12:05.10 | Alina-malina | when i do this the html file text becomes unreadable |
| 12:05.18 | Alina-malina | and it is content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" |
| 12:05.43 | Alina-malina | how to check the encoding of pdf file instead? the problem is in pdf side not html |
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| 12:05.59 | sherm | what program are you using to do the convert? |
| 12:06.12 | Alina-malina | pdftohtml |
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| 12:08.18 | StoBrendo | Hi there . I would want to backup my debian jessie/8 system easily. Could someone point me to the easiest (safest) way? |
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| 12:09.43 | sherm | I think there may be a problem with your input PDF. There is another PDF conversion prog that may be worth trying: pdf2htmlex |
| 12:10.03 | Alina-malina | ok let me try it |
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| 12:10.48 | sherm | StoBrendo: this is a massive topic and depends on lots of factors. Take a look at rsync. |
| 12:11.23 | thecha | is there any proprietary software in debian? |
| 12:11.37 | thecha | or is there only some in the repositories |
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| 12:13.03 | StoBrendo | thecha: i think you only fetch propietary software in debian if you add non-free to your sources.list |
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| 12:15.30 | StoBrendo | sherm: my best bullet atm is, https://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage?action=fullsearch&titlesearch=0&value=backup&context=180 . Give me a shot if there is something you know that could save me some time |
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| 12:19.07 | sherm | StoBrendo: my preferred technique is to run a nightly cron script, using rsync, to do the backup. Mirrored discs (RAID) are good too but don't prevent against human error. This may be useful for you: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=639979 |
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| 12:22.01 | StoBrendo | sherm: rsync does not seem a good choice to me, since its just a directory tree copy. I would rather preffer tar with xz compression. But I was thinking in something like dar , I usually find nice debian's wiki articles that help you to not end having a frankestein system ( ej: https://wiki.debian.org/WordPress ) , but right now ... nope xD |
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| 12:22.54 | tw | raid, even mirroring, is not backup. anecdotally, I've recently had a raid1 failure that replicated errors to both disks. |
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| 12:23.25 | sherm | you want to image your entire disc each time you make a backup? |
| 12:24.01 | sherm | yes, i know RAID doesn't protect you against file corruption or doing something stupid! |
| 12:24.30 | tw | This was a hardware controller failure. |
| 12:24.47 | sherm | ah, that's a bugger, sorry to hear |
| 12:24.56 | tw | Wasn't a problem, backups were there. |
| 12:25.05 | StoBrendo | sherm: could you share what do you understand for the word: backup ? |
| 12:25.25 | StoBrendo | backup isn't just a copuy |
| 12:25.32 | StoBrendo | s/copuy/copy/g |
| 12:25.46 | sherm | making sufficient copies of data to avoid data loss in the future |
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| 12:26.00 | sherm | i guess it depends on what sufficient means for you requirements |
| 12:26.01 | StoBrendo | the same way software versioning isn't a bunch of directory with different names organized by date |
| 12:26.13 | StoBrendo | s/directory/directories/ |
| 12:27.33 | StoBrendo | sherm: to me what you say is "if i would have to write a large project i wouldn't use neither git nor subversion not anything like that but just a naming pattern for a huge number of directories that would keep track of what each thing is" |
| 12:27.48 | StoBrendo | s/write a large project/write a large software project/ |
| 12:28.01 | StoBrendo | s/not anything/nor anything/ |
| 12:28.08 | sherm | you would need version control for a large project |
| 12:28.23 | StoBrendo | you would need a real backup for a real not frankestein system |
| 12:28.38 | StoBrendo | or your backup flow would frankestein-ize your system |
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| 12:29.21 | sherm | are you taking incremental backups nightly then more substantial backups weekly? |
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| 12:30.23 | StoBrendo | the frequency of the backup is irrelevant to determine whether its a good way of doing it or not |
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| 12:30.54 | sherm | how are you hoping to implement it? |
| 12:31.08 | StoBrendo | I don't hope the things i do. |
| 12:31.27 | StoBrendo | but i surely will use a bash/python script |
| 12:31.38 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
| 12:31.45 | StoBrendo | \o |
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| 12:32.28 | sherm | i'm interested in your plans for the design of this backup system? |
| 12:33.33 | StoBrendo | sherm: the plan is , collect information > do the proccess manually > automatize it |
| 12:33.48 | StoBrendo | i'm in step 1 right now |
| 12:34.16 | StoBrendo | and multitasking , thus the urge of backup what i already have |
| 12:34.32 | StoBrendo | humans commit failures when multitasking xP |
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| 12:43.45 | aZz7eCh | If i have a script in cron.hourly ... and i chmod -x it, leaving it in that folder, and reboot machine, its no longer run, correct ? |
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| 12:44.00 | aZz7eCh | i can just +x it later if i want it back, being my plan ... |
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| 12:48.42 | Michael-jx | Hello , this is your videogame for pc windows ? https://sourceforge.net/projects/black-fps/?source=directory |
| 12:51.06 | dionysus69 | are sh and bash commands identical to execute shell script files? |
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| 12:51.56 | tw | dionysus69: No. Oh no, no no no. Bash is a superset of sh. If it runs in sh, it will most likely run in bash. The reverse is not true. |
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| 12:55.50 | StoBrendo | aZz7eCh: it wont be running still . But it would keep its permissions (its still executable) |
| 12:55.54 | sherm | AFAIK: sh is POSIX compatible, bash can run in POSIX mode making it more like sh |
| 12:56.42 | aZz7eCh | how would it keep its permissions StoBrendo ? what do you mean buddy? |
| 12:57.19 | aZz7eCh | you mean cron can still execute it if its no longer got x permissions? |
| 12:58.20 | StoBrendo | aZz7eCh: ls -l /path/to/chmoded/file |
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| 13:03.34 | aZz7eCh | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3208 Feb 19 2016 autosuspend |
| 13:05.34 | StoBrendo | aZz7eCh: now do sudo chmod +a /path/to/that/file && ls -l $_ |
| 13:05.45 | StoBrendo | sorry |
| 13:05.58 | StoBrendo | aZz7eCh: sudo chmod +x /path/to/that/file && ls -l $_ |
| 13:06.04 | StoBrendo | it was +x instead of +a :P |
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| 13:31.55 | aZz7eCh | but that will make it executable again, no? |
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| 13:33.52 | abrotman | aZz7eCh: yes |
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| 13:34.29 | user___ | i dont hav swapspace. if i use "systemctl hibernate", wat wud happen? |
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| 13:35.19 | aZz7eCh | so confusing lol. i think StoBrendo just missed i was trying to confirm -x'ing would stop the cron from running without moving the file |
| 13:35.30 | aZz7eCh | sounds like i've done it right. |
| 13:36.18 | StoBrendo | aZz7eCh: if you achieved what you wanted then you did it right. (all but understanding it) |
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| 13:38.01 | tdn | Where can I find guidelines for how to upgrade PostgreSQL when upgrading Debian from 7 to 8? |
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| 13:39.24 | aZz7eCh | well i understand giving a file executable permissions or not .. question was will cron obey that |
| 13:39.50 | aZz7eCh | if i missed something further, enlighten me :P |
| 13:40.25 | user___ | wat wud happen if i run "systemctl hibernate" without swap partition? |
| 13:40.57 | abrotman | user___: try it, let us know |
| 13:41.21 | user___ | i dont want to screwup now |
| 13:41.28 | abrotman | then don't try it .. |
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| 13:42.56 | abrotman | user___: or create a swap file, you don't need a whole partition |
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| 13:43.18 | awal1 | user___, without swap partition, you still can use ^ |
| 13:43.22 | awal1 | follow https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation/Hibernate_Without_Swap_Partition |
| 13:43.34 | user___ | ok |
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| 13:47.53 | veek | is there a way to reduce the clutter that iptables -log generates? can i specify the fields i want |
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| 13:48.04 | tw | Not that this is your question, but why wouldn't you have swap space? the virtual memory subsystem has a purpose. Even on systems with 72 GB of ram, I still allocate swap space. |
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| 14:08.38 | stoned | I use swap file, I have MBR, can' afford to waste a partition |
| 14:08.43 | stoned | I only use 4 primaries. |
| 14:09.55 | stoned | And if anyone cares, this is the goofy script I wrote to throw in for ansible or other preseeding things. |
| 14:10.06 | stoned | http://sprunge.us/feba <- creates 4G swap in /swap |
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| 14:17.52 | StoBrendo | aZz7eCh: you only have to look for cron's user and for file's permissions . That way you could know |
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| 14:19.06 | StoBrendo | aZz7eCh: btw, if you find something which doesn't follow filesystem rules , don't forget to /msg me |
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| 14:21.24 | rdococ | why does debhelper set channel limits? |
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| 14:22.34 | joze | there may be join floods from botnets |
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| 14:25.03 | rdococ | k |
| 14:25.14 | rdococ | what bout leave floods? |
| 14:25.32 | joze | only on spring |
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| 14:26.54 | fredl | hi folks, does anybody know how to make sure a package comes from the backports repository in a preseeded install? |
| 14:27.13 | unborn | rdococ: you can safely remove join and leave messages.. |
| 14:27.17 | unborn | no flood at all. |
| 14:27.26 | fredl | I have: |
| 14:27.30 | fredl | d-i apt-setup/local0/repository string \ |
| 14:27.30 | fredl | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.38 | fredl | in my preseed file |
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| 14:28.19 | fredl | but when I do d-i pkgsel/include string nvidia-driver I get the regular package, not the one from backports |
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| 14:30.00 | fredl | ah figured it out already |
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| 14:38.29 | mernilio | Hi all .. im banned from "debian-off-topic" :-P |
| 14:38.35 | mernilio | haha |
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| 14:38.55 | mernilio | can any of you adjust it? |
| 14:39.06 | towo` | use the right network |
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| 14:39.24 | Shadow_7_ | for starters it's #debian-offtopic |
| 14:39.25 | towo` | #debian-offtopic is on oftc, not freenode |
| 14:39.34 | mernilio | Im willing to do anything dude! :-| |
| 14:39.48 | ByteStorm | lap dance |
| 14:40.03 | mernilio | lap dance? .. :-P |
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| 14:40.51 | mernilio | With my aged body i suppose you dont appreciate it... |
| 14:41.04 | mernilio | :-) |
| 14:41.07 | ByteStorm | np,ill manage |
| 14:41.19 | zykotick9 | towo`: actually -offtopic is on both networks... |
| 14:41.22 | CQ | what's the best way to "move" a system, if I am forced to reinstall to a new machine? i.e. I want to reinstall, then copy all configuration etc. over... |
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| 14:41.33 | mernilio | But sure... i have some moves! :-) |
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| 14:42.04 | mernilio | I can stuff around! :-) |
| 14:42.34 | mernilio | like a negro. |
| 14:42.40 | mernilio | haha |
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| 14:43.29 | mernilio | a racist remark .. sorry |
| 14:43.31 | mernilio | :-) |
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| 14:44.24 | mernilio | I dont care about color.. but you whitys have an issue! It seems. |
| 14:46.05 | mernilio | What is color anyway? Im a rapper and in my world colour dont mean a thing! |
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| 14:46.54 | mernilio | haha :-) |
| 14:47.27 | mernilio | I try to be nice! :-) |
| 14:49.34 | unborn | wth? |
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| 14:50.10 | mernilio | I know i can be offensive .. but thanks for having me! :-) |
| 14:50.27 | unborn | mernilio: how this have anything to do with debian? |
| 14:50.29 | mernilio | word goes to unborn |
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| 14:51.15 | mernilio | unborn: im banned from that other channel... |
| 14:51.51 | awal1 | probably soon form here too |
| 14:51.55 | mernilio | They didnt appreciated my enormously big penis. |
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| 14:52.07 | Shadow_7_ | unborn: cause... apt-get install xiphos bible-kjv |
| 14:52.18 | mernilio | sorry :-) |
| 14:52.42 | awal1 | !ops: mernilio trolling |
| 14:53.08 | mernilio | Im a good guy, and i support debian as well! :-) |
| 14:53.10 | unborn | !ops mernilio spam |
| 14:53.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: unborn complains about: mernilio spam |
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| 14:54.17 | mernilio | What is that list? :-) |
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| 14:55.01 | mernilio | Like some sort of hate crime! |
| 14:55.31 | Shadow_7_ | Looks like a /msg to all the ops |
| 14:55.44 | mernilio | Now i have an issue with you! |
| 14:55.59 | Shadow_7_ | It wouldn't be a date if you didn't have issues |
| 14:56.11 | unborn | mernilio: I am pain in but for admins here, sometimes I just dont know where to stop, but at least I have some point which is very different from you. |
| 14:56.31 | mernilio | Sure thing dude! |
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| 14:57.14 | unborn | *butt.. anyway this is debian support chan and please - if you have nothing to contribute to help anyone here, just go off-topic or learn...noone needs to read crap. |
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| 14:59.25 | mernilio | What gives dude? :-P |
| 15:00.08 | mernilio | English polise men are so lame btw! :-) |
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| 15:01.05 | mernilio | You have my respect tho! I tip my hat for you officer! |
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| 15:06.33 | stoned | *sigh* |
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| 15:06.46 | stoned | Is there a single day I can live in this world and not be exposed to racism. FFS. |
| 15:06.51 | stoned | *afk* |
| 15:07.11 | Shadow_7_ | some call it camping... in the absence of other humans |
| 15:07.14 | unborn | heh.. not again please |
| 15:07.16 | stoned | Heh. |
| 15:07.26 | stoned | I'm going afk, butnicely done. /me smiles |
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| 15:07.56 | Shadow_7_ | But then you experience species-ism. Bears just want to eat you up |
| 15:08.01 | abrotman | Is there a single day I can live in this world without people commenting on trolls ... FFS |
| 15:08.10 | abrotman | Moving on ... |
| 15:09.15 | stoned | abrotman: go camping! |
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| 15:15.37 | Mathisen | is it bad practice to have samba shares in my /home/user folder ? it seem all guides use /mnt/whatever |
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| 15:16.04 | abrotman | Mathisen: are they just for your user? |
| 15:16.16 | Mathisen | abrotman, yes |
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| 15:16.42 | abrotman | doesn't see a problem with it then |
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| 15:17.36 | sherm | Mathisen: good subject change, well excuted |
| 15:17.50 | Mathisen | okej but lets say i made a folder for "everyone" with read only, |
| 15:17.53 | Mathisen | still okej ? |
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| 15:23.45 | grafdiffuzor | Hello. My mc thinks my term has no 256 colors, while running under screen. $TERM is xterm-256color while no screen, and screen.xterm-256color while under screen. |
| 15:24.07 | grafdiffuzor | The question is how to fix mc to understand term has support for 256 colors? |
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| 15:30.24 | ericnoan | mc? do you get any colors at all? |
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| 15:34.25 | edeca | ericnoan: Midnight Commander maybe? |
| 15:34.53 | ericnoan | people still use that? /s |
| 15:35.04 | edeca | shrugs :) |
| 15:35.14 | edeca | What doesn't ls do? Heh |
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| 15:35.26 | ericnoan | yah, or cp/mv |
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| 15:37.04 | grafdiffuzor | ericnoan seems like 16 colors |
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| 15:37.43 | ericnoan | so you notice colors are missing while using screen? |
| 15:39.13 | grafdiffuzor | only in mc |
| 15:39.19 | grafdiffuzor | ll seems to have 256 colors |
| 15:39.29 | grafdiffuzor | that is, ls -l |
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| 15:40.22 | grafdiffuzor | that started after I upgraded from Jessie to Stretch |
| 15:40.57 | ericnoan | grafdiffuzor: have you read https://midnight-commander.org/wiki/doc/faq#a4.5HowcanIgetcolors ? |
| 15:43.27 | Shadow_7_ | grafdiffuzor: in a terminal? export TERM=xterm ...or... export TERM=xterm-256color |
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| 15:44.10 | grafdiffuzor | well, I do have 256 colors while in term (xfce4-terminal), it just changes when I run mc under screen there |
| 15:44.13 | ericnoan | also, mc seems to start in 16 colors mode by default, you have to load a special skin to get 256 colors. can't you live with 16 colors? |
| 15:44.34 | Shadow_7_ | I think TERM=xterm == 16 colors |
| 15:45.03 | ericnoan | if i go to options -> appearance and set a 256 color skin, i get an error |
| 15:45.24 | ericnoan | tell us if you figure it out :) |
| 15:45.53 | Shadow_7_ | there's a difference for things like ... emacs -nw -l /usr/share/emacs/24.4/etc/themes/wheatgrass-theme |
| 15:45.56 | Shadow_7_ | .el /usr/include/stdio.h |
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| 16:36.02 | dionysus69 | tw: thanks :) |
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| 16:55.42 | awal1 | no alwaysfocused style? |
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| 16:59.18 | awal1 | I want to get a few apps always focused when I display them pressing the hotkey(s) even no matters which window has focus previously. I'm refering to tilda and guake terminals |
| 16:59.52 | awal1 | - even |
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| 17:00.38 | cm2 | anyone knows why freetype 2.7 ain't in sid yet? |
| 17:00.59 | awal1 | ouuups, wrong channel :P |
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| 17:01.12 | cm2 | awal1: me? |
| 17:01.20 | awal1 | I tought I was in fvwm channel |
| 17:01.30 | cm2 | awal1: ah. no. :) |
| 17:01.43 | awal1 | cm2, me, not you :P |
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| 17:02.00 | cm2 | awal1: aye. carry on friend. |
| 17:02.58 | cm2 | anyone knows? sid, freetype, 2.7 ? |
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| 17:05.33 | awal1 | it may be in experimental |
| 17:05.38 | awal1 | check pts |
| 17:05.51 | cm2 | awal1: i didn't even think to check |
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| 17:08.16 | cm2 | awal1: i don't see it on the webpage |
| 17:09.07 | dob1 | do I have to uncomment #AuthorizedKeysFile %h/.ssh/authorized_keys in sshd_config if i am using key auth for ssh? |
| 17:09.37 | cm2 | dob1: yes. but check the file is named authorized_keys |
| 17:09.47 | cm2 | dob1: sometimes it's authorized_keys2 |
| 17:10.22 | dob1 | cm2, in the sshd_config or the file in the .ssh directory? |
| 17:10.31 | cm2 | dob1: they have to match |
| 17:10.39 | cm2 | so check both |
| 17:11.33 | dob1 | cm2, thanks |
| 17:11.35 | awal1 | cm2, it may not be in debian yet, not all pkgs go trough experimental |
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| 17:13.06 | cm2 | awal1: thanks. i guess i should mail the maintainer. |
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| 17:14.22 | jhutchins | ,v firefox |
| 17:14.23 | judd | Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 51.0.1-3~bpo80+1; sid: 51.0.1-3; experimental: 52.0~b9-1 |
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| 17:15.18 | jrtc27 | TIL judd knows about mozilla.debian.net |
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| 17:16.00 | somiaj | !tell cm2 about slushy |
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| 17:17.39 | cm2 | somiaj: do tell, because the bot didn't say anything |
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| 17:18.56 | cm2 | somiaj: splashy? |
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| 17:20.47 | somiaj | cm2: did you not read what the bot told you? It says that sid is basically frozen until the release of stretch, so many packages won't be upgraded in sid until after the release of stretch |
| 17:21.02 | somiaj | it would have been in a privage message, maybe you have those turned off |
| 17:21.31 | cm2 | somiaj: ah. yes. |
| 17:22.04 | cm2 | somiaj: thanks. |
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| 18:42.15 | Torinko | Hello |
| 18:42.42 | Torinko | anybody would like to help me put program to repository? |
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| 18:44.44 | towo` | Torinko, you propably want to join #debian-mentors |
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| 18:45.14 | Torinko | towo`: for closed source too? (Thanks) |
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| 18:52.18 | La09x09 | I cant find caffeine-gtk package |
| 18:52.33 | La09x09 | so in mate, I cant make "caffeine" package show up in panel |
| 18:53.17 | missmbob | La09x09: it's just caffeine |
| 18:53.37 | La09x09 | missmbob, but I want to turn it on and off through notification panel |
| 18:53.40 | missmbob | oh for gnome you need gnome-shell-extension-caffeine |
| 18:53.46 | La09x09 | I use mate |
| 18:53.48 | La09x09 | not gnome |
| 18:53.53 | missmbob | then that's it. run it |
| 18:54.06 | jhutchins | Interesting. It appears that if your kernel is from wheezy backports, it will upgrade to jessie backports. |
| 18:54.07 | La09x09 | it doesnt show up in menu (panel) |
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| 18:54.21 | missmbob | La09x09: alt+f2 |
| 18:54.39 | n___ | i'm building linux-ppc32/64 kernels, and trying to cut out all unnecessary drivers.. is there a tool that will assess a generic system, the modules in it, compare that to whats loaded, and look at the dmesg to see what hw is available.. then kick out a .config file with drivers for hw that actually exists? |
| 18:54.50 | La09x09 | missmbob, I know but how can I see that in panel? to know the current status of caffeine |
| 18:54.56 | missmbob | La09x09: might have to run caffeine-indicator |
| 18:55.15 | La09x09 | missmbob, great!. worked. thanks |
| 18:55.18 | n___ | silver lining: i found out I can upgrade the processor in my G4 to a 7448 with a higher clockspeed |
| 18:55.22 | n___ | lol |
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| 18:55.27 | La09x09 | missmbob, so caffeine is necessary for netflix right? |
| 18:55.34 | jhutchins | n___: Boot the system, lsmod > modules.needed |
| 18:55.38 | La09x09 | In arch, I didnt need caffeine. strange. |
| 18:55.48 | missmbob | La09x09: i wouldnt know |
| 18:56.23 | n___ | jhutchins: yeah, I'm more of a bsd kernel programmer.. I have done a ton with linux, but the basic commands (like lsmod over modstat or kldinfo are confusing) |
| 18:56.42 | n___ | as are the kernel symbol_names_formatted_this_way compared to symname |
| 18:56.44 | n___ | ;) |
| 18:56.55 | n___ | jhutchins thx though |
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| 18:59.13 | n___ | jhutchins -- lsmod piped to modules.needed is all good but i guess i am looking for a utility to translate that into .config syntax |
| 18:59.26 | n___ | so I can just throw it in /usr/src/linux and make -j33 |
| 18:59.55 | n___ | That would be a useful utility I think, to create a starting point for .config if nothing else than to give one the necessary (and only the necessary) drivers |
| 19:00.02 | La09x09 | missmbob, and for sound, I can put it max through settings. then it goes back to default (lower than maximum) |
| 19:00.08 | n___ | other features could be then added with make config/menuconfig/etc. |
| 19:01.13 | missmbob | La09x09: have you installed/run pavucontrol? |
| 19:01.35 | jhutchins | n___: I think I'd do it manually. At least take a look at how long the list is. |
| 19:02.24 | jhutchins | n___: With Linux' modular architecture, the kernel itself is a pretty standard size, and you only load the modules you need, so the only thing you save by not building unneeded modules is disk space. |
| 19:02.29 | La09x09 | missmbob, yes I have it installed. |
| 19:02.45 | missmbob | La09x09: is that what you're using? i dont know if mate uses it |
| 19:03.04 | jhutchins | n___: There's not much to be gained by building everything into the kernel, and the initrd should only have required modules in it. |
| 19:03.32 | jhutchins | Looks like going multiarch is finally cleaning up the old kde install I had. |
| 19:03.45 | La09x09 | missmbob, when I put the volume to maximum and then press volume keys on laptop, it goes back to medium(default) volume |
| 19:04.18 | missmbob | La09x09: sounds like alsa but i'm not sure how to help you with that. hopefully someone else will |
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| 19:18.07 | ewew | Hi. Is someone here who has experience with ddrescue ? |
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| 19:24.58 | Hestben | ewew: yes. Please state your question so we can help you. |
| 19:25.16 | ewew | rescued: 127242 MB, errsize: 1351 MB, current rate: 5120 B/s ago[[B^[[ ipos: 228927 MB, errors: 31025, average rate: 214 kB/s[[B^[[B^[[ opos: 228927 MB, run time: 6.86 d, successful read: 0 s ago |
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| 19:25.47 | ewew | on fs its about 229 GB big. why is there a big difference. |
| 19:26.40 | Hestben | You mean the difference between rescued and the actual size? |
| 19:26.45 | ewew | yes |
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| 19:28.05 | Hestben | Hmm, I don't have that much experience with dd_rescue, but it might be that it could not read the other sectors |
| 19:28.18 | Hestben | there are 31025 errors |
| 19:28.38 | Hestben | ewew: isn't it still running? |
| 19:28.44 | ewew | yes. |
| 19:29.14 | Hestben | so, it states the currently rescued size, and will work until it has finished copying all the sectors it can |
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| 19:30.02 | ewew | is there a chance of overruning of total size of rescued partition ? |
| 19:30.50 | bauerj | Hey, any idea why df shows that there are 0B available? https://paste.debian.net/plain/918048 |
| 19:31.20 | bauerj | If I substract "used" from "1K-blocks" I get a remaining size of about 500MiB |
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| 19:31.43 | bauerj | I'm also able to create new files so the filesystem can't really be full |
| 19:32.35 | Hestben | bauerj: It is probably rounded up |
| 19:33.36 | bauerj | Does "available" usually show a different unit than "used"? |
| 19:33.58 | Hestben | bauerj: I don't know |
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| 19:34.38 | Hestben | bauerj: You are really running on the very limits of the file system though. Many people recommend filling up partitions to no more than 70% |
| 19:34.43 | axujen | hello |
| 19:34.49 | bauerj | Okay, I think it's unlikely that it would round 400M to 0 though^^ |
| 19:34.52 | bauerj | Yes, you're right |
| 19:35.17 | axujen | anyone with experience with the intel gma 500 gpu? im looking to install the proprietary driver or anything that can give decent video playback |
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| 19:35.47 | missmbob | bauerj: which os? |
| 19:35.56 | Hestben | bauerj: might depend on the fs-type as well. |
| 19:35.59 | bauerj | Debian GNU/Linux 8 |
| 19:36.08 | bauerj | It's ext4 on LVM |
| 19:36.10 | missmbob | i meant fs |
| 19:36.13 | bauerj | ok^^ |
| 19:36.20 | missmbob | ext4 reserves 5% for root by default |
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| 19:36.43 | bauerj | Well, that would make sense |
| 19:37.02 | Hestben | missmbob: Oh, so the space that ext4 does reserve doesnt end up in "Used"? |
| 19:37.40 | bauerj | But I'm also able to use space as a non-root user |
| 19:37.47 | missmbob | not if there are none used, i'm pretty sure not |
| 19:38.34 | missmbob | eh, i dont see that. on same install? |
| 19:38.45 | jhutchins | bauerj: Might be interesting to do df -h |
| 19:38.51 | jhutchins | su -sh /* |
| 19:39.00 | jhutchins | du -sh /* sorry |
| 19:39.04 | ewew | Hestben Could it be that zeros are not counted ? |
| 19:39.46 | Hestben | ewew: In currently rescued space? I think zeroes are counted, if it is part of the data. |
| 19:39.55 | bauerj | Okay, missmbob was right |
| 19:40.02 | bauerj | tune2fs -m 0 /dev/dm-0 and now it shows it correctly |
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| 19:40.12 | jhutchins | axujen: Most intel chipsets are supported by open source drivers. lspci -nn and post the PCIID. |
| 19:40.20 | bauerj | Thanks! |
| 19:40.50 | missmbob | great |
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| 19:41.58 | axujen | jhutchins, not this card no, its one card that doesnt have good open source drivers :/ |
| 19:42.05 | jhutchins | brb |
| 19:42.26 | ewew | Hestben the problem is if i attempt to get some data, the tool report for example 213 GB image |
| 19:42.33 | axujen | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) Graphics Controller [8086:8108] (rev 07) |
| 19:42.36 | Hestben | bauerj: Be adviced that ext4 may not have any space left to rescue files if the computer suddenly loses power in that filled up state the fs is in. |
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| 19:43.23 | bauerj | Okay, I'll try to slim down the system somehow to get a bit of space back |
| 19:43.59 | Hestben | ewew: You mean, the partition you are rescuing is not really filled completely, and you want it to only copy the data that is used? I'm not sure, but it may be that dd_rescue will copy the partition bit by bit as it is. |
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| 19:44.29 | ewew | im wondering if something did not get corrupted. |
| 19:44.31 | Hestben | ewew: It may not care anything about what fs is on the partition, and thus does not know and care about how filled it is. |
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| 19:47.31 | ewew | Hestben why is it so slow ? |
| 19:47.58 | axujen | jhutchins, 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) [8086:8100] (rev 07) |
| 19:48.03 | Hestben | The amount of read errors suggest that it has to restart a lot. |
| 19:48.45 | Hestben | ewew: But I have mostly used it to copy dvds before, so I am not an expert on how many read errors are normal etc. |
| 19:49.08 | ewew | well im copying a 450 GB partition on failing disk. |
| 19:50.21 | Hestben | ewew: I feel with you. One of those late reminders of the importance of having a working backup of critical files etc |
| 19:50.49 | Hestben | ewew: and using smartd that monitors disks and sends out mails when error counts goes up |
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| 19:54.29 | ewew | Hestben I wonder how long it will take to finish this. Its not funny to have computer running 6 days in the row. |
| 19:56.14 | Hestben | ewew: Yes, I can see that that is frustrating. I guess you could make a guess from the "mean rate" and how much data remains to copy. |
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| 19:58.20 | ewew | im on the fly extracting data. so i know whats there. |
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| 20:03.32 | Shadow_7_ | RPi's are good for dumb copies. With docking stations ofc. |
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| 20:04.39 | caesar__ | Test |
| 20:05.35 | Torinko | new branch test on irc |
| 20:05.46 | Torinko | caesar__: interesting |
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| 20:06.34 | caesar__ | i cant see my typing words... |
| 20:06.43 | Torinko | i see too |
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| 20:12.46 | mendi | hi friends debian or centos for hosting? |
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| 20:13.19 | mendi | im more familiar with deb but centos seems to eat way less resources (~130MB) |
| 20:13.47 | th_ | debian 4 life |
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| 20:14.22 | bzed | mendi: the size of the installer does not tell you how much it needs on disk. |
| 20:14.25 | caesar__ | Torkino_ Now i see my written words :-) I've changed my textcolours :-) |
| 20:14.27 | mendi | any idea on how much the no gui version eats eats? |
| 20:14.36 | mendi | @bzed im talking about ram |
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| 20:14.54 | mendi | im kinda limited to 1GB |
| 20:14.59 | th_ | kevin mitnick ^ hello |
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| 20:15.15 | th_ | :D |
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| 20:16.34 | th_ | so mysql is now mariadb on debian? |
| 20:17.50 | somiaj | I belive both are available, choose the one you want. |
| 20:17.52 | somiaj | ,v mysql |
| 20:17.54 | judd | No package named 'mysql' was found in amd64. |
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| 20:18.39 | somiaj | hmm, guess I'm not seeing mysql in stretch, in jessie you have both. |
| 20:18.51 | mendi | mariadb is the engine |
| 20:18.59 | somiaj | ,v mysql-client |
| 20:19.00 | judd | Package: mysql-client on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.5.47-0+deb7u1; jessie: 5.5.53-0+deb8u1; wheezy-security: 5.5.54-0+deb7u2; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.5.54-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.5.54-0+deb8u1; sid: 5.7.17-1 |
| 20:19.02 | th_ | i installed mariadb, but the server is still called "mysqld" |
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| 20:19.50 | mendi | does debian have uptodate apache repository? |
| 20:20.07 | somiaj | mendi: what do you mean by that? You want a newer version of apache in say debian jessie? |
| 20:20.10 | somiaj | ,v apache2 |
| 20:20.11 | judd | Package: apache2 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2.2.22-13+deb7u8; jessie: 2.4.10-10+deb8u7; jessie-security: 2.4.10-10+deb8u8; stretch: 2.4.25-3; sid: 2.4.25-3 |
| 20:20.30 | mendi | in centos we have to compile them ourselves @somiaj |
| 20:20.31 | somiaj | mendi: looks like the offically supported apache in debian is 2.4.10 |
| 20:20.43 | mendi | does debian have a compiled pkg |
| 20:21.19 | somiaj | mendi: the bot just listed the version of apache that comes with the different debian releases. In jessie if you want something newer than 2.4.10 you'll have to compile it yourself and also provide security support yourself. |
| 20:21.35 | bzed | somiaj, mendi: mysql 5.7 is in stretch |
| 20:21.54 | somiaj | bzed: what is the package name, I couldn't find it. |
| 20:22.19 | bzed | mendi: ram is also not a question of the distribution. it depend son the softwre you are usung and the traffic. |
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| 20:23.09 | somiaj | bzed: I am seing various packages that work with mysql, but not seeing the mysql-client or mysql-server in stretch. |
| 20:23.13 | mendi | @bzed without any software or gui how much memory does debian eat |
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| 20:23.29 | th_ | its now moved to mariadb-server, that installs mysqld |
| 20:23.33 | mendi | I mean just the core |
| 20:23.39 | Shadow_7_ | depends on how muc debian is installed and active. |
| 20:24.05 | somiaj | th_: sure, but my understanding was mariadb and mysql are no longer the same, they are forks when oracle got ahold of mysql. |
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| 20:24.20 | Shadow_7_ | I'm often about 70MB - 140MB before I X and browser |
| 20:24.44 | mendi | seriously?? |
| 20:24.54 | somiaj | mendi: the core is not really a good judge, because most likely it won't have the software you will be running, but the install guide lists the minimial requirements. |
| 20:25.00 | Shadow_7_ | And there's cassandra, drizzle, and other forks |
| 20:25.09 | th_ | im confused why the daemon is still named mysqld and not like mariadbd |
| 20:25.37 | bzed | somiaj: ah sorry, it was removed, indeed |
| 20:26.06 | bzed | somiaj: mariadb is compatible to mysql |
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| 20:26.29 | somiaj | th_: there might be compadability issues in which renaming everything would cause issues so it kept the same name in the code. |
| 20:26.44 | th_ | true |
| 20:26.48 | Shadow_7_ | I was watching youtube on my 512MB machine up till about two years ago. When ads started cresting 512MB |
| 20:27.49 | Shadow_7_ | And old P4 laptop. 2.8GHz 32 bit single core for some things it's still beast relative to my other low specs hardware |
| 20:27.56 | mendi | can I install a GUI and configure debian to run with no GUI by default? |
| 20:28.26 | somiaj | mendi: just disable or don't install a display manager if you don't want the gui to load at boot. Then manually run it with startx. |
| 20:28.56 | Shadow_7_ | mendi: as long as the gui doesn't grab a display manager. Or you do the "false" thing in /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 20:28.59 | mendi | oh nice thanks somiaj |
| 20:29.11 | Shadow_7_ | dpkg nodm |
| 20:29.11 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
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| 20:33.12 | piratepete | I have a good install of Wordpress on my company server (debian) and a bad one, I'm trying to fix on another. Is www-data a system user and do I need to create that user account prior to a chown on the bad Wordpress file structure? |
| 20:34.15 | piratepete | I guess the question is: is www-data a default system user upon an installation of apache on debian? |
| 20:34.38 | missmbob | piratepete: no. that'll break wordpress |
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| 20:35.14 | piratepete | missmbob: start fresh?? |
| 20:35.18 | missmbob | yes |
| 20:35.22 | unborn | piratepete: if you want to be able modify those files but still able to process by www-data - just add your self to group and whatever you need to do.. |
| 20:36.13 | unborn | piratepete: but I do say the correct way would be su and change your user to www-data and then manipulate the files.. |
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| 20:36.46 | unborn | but if wordpress is bad then dont waste your time, just replace with new one |
| 20:36.50 | piratepete | unborn: the problem is ... everything is root:root |
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| 20:36.57 | unborn | - unless you know what your are doing |
| 20:37.04 | piratepete | unborn: I must have been in a hurry |
| 20:37.11 | unborn | yes thats wrong piratepete |
| 20:37.29 | unborn | give it back to www-data:www-data |
| 20:37.33 | unborn | and see then |
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| 20:37.57 | unborn | btw whats bad about that wordpress install piratepete |
| 20:37.58 | unborn | ? |
| 20:38.09 | piratepete | thanks folks. I'm off to fix this or destroy it :-) |
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| 20:38.26 | missmbob | no it's not :P |
| 20:38.55 | Hestben | on the topic of wordpress installs, I would like to tip about the tool wpi-cli - Install and configure wordpress from the command line |
| 20:38.58 | unborn | root:root because you've been in hurry is poor excuse - I believe that you did not read whole docs out there.. anyway. good luck piratepete |
| 20:39.33 | piratepete | my root power is kind of like Trumps. I'm a Java professional with dangerous system admin knowledge |
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| 20:40.05 | unborn | Hestben: sorry, I left my self to carry on without realising that this is debian support channel.. I just lost it.. so whats the issue? |
| 20:40.31 | unborn | heh not politics and other crap..please |
| 20:40.32 | piratepete | unborn: the wife says I need to read the instructions everytime |
| 20:40.54 | unborn | sysops does say same piratepete |
| 20:42.12 | jhutchins | Well that's annoying. Installed the 64b kernel and now Nvidia won't complete. |
| 20:42.35 | jhutchins | Actually, the problem was with dkms. |
| 20:42.51 | jhutchins | I presume I need to install some 64b headers... |
| 20:44.58 | piratepete | unborn: awesome! chown -R www-data:www-data worked and Wordpress updated with a button push without error |
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| 20:58.46 | missmbob | piratepete: i'm right on this |
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| 21:04.49 | jhutchins | Well, getting NVIDIA working the first time was easy. I guess I've finally found a challenge. I'll work on finishing cross-grading to amd64 then return to NVIDIA |
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| 21:05.26 | somiaj | jhutchins: this a 64 bit kernel in a 32bit userland? |
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| 21:21.05 | decuser | I'm getting fond of zfs these days through using fbsd. Is zfs well supported on debian jessie? Can it be setup during install as root? |
| 21:21.57 | Klaus_Dieter | it works well onmy system as file store. not using it as rootfs though |
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| 21:24.07 | decuser | Ok. Thx. |
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| 22:10.41 | unborn | guys I am writing post install script for my personal debian install.. while testing iso with post-install script works awesome I have one issue, while user is on live iso it is still asking him for root password.. how to make it just click and work? does anyone know? |
| 22:10.42 | artificial | Just installed debian, but its not detecting my wireless NIC. lspci detects it though. |
| 22:11.52 | unborn | artificial: free or non free? |
| 22:12.12 | somiaj | unborn: the live iso's the default user has sudo privlages with no password, so just run the command with sudo. |
| 22:12.14 | unborn | possibly free.. as non free would install drivers right a way |
| 22:12.30 | x032cx | unborn:did you try admin |
| 22:12.32 | artificial | unborn: what do you mean |
| 22:13.20 | unborn | somiaj: thank you. I know for the fact that user is presented and password as well.. - for live distro.. im just.. let me check if su will do it.. be with me |
| 22:13.23 | dontknow | what packages should i install to make hexchat to highlight wrong letter. i mean typing correction |
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| 22:13.53 | unborn | spellcheck dontknow |
| 22:14.20 | unborn | or aspell |
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| 22:14.58 | unborn | somiaj: rebooting.. sorry for time consuming.. I am testing this in vm.. |
| 22:15.07 | dontknow | unborn, aspell is installed |
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| 22:16.25 | unborn | dontknow: then go to hexchat, click on settings, preferences and there in input box check spell checking on |
| 22:16.32 | unborn | you should be good to go |
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| 22:17.11 | unborn | somiaj: I guess you can gram some cigarette as I will need at least 10 minutes to finish dummy install. |
| 22:17.31 | unborn | re* grab |
| 22:17.35 | dontknow | unborn, it is checked i set it "en_US" |
| 22:17.50 | somiaj | unborn: I don't know what you mean by live distro, but if using a debian live images, sudo was as far as I knew enabled without requiring a password. |
| 22:18.15 | unborn | dontknow: then check if your aspell have that language installed |
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| 22:19.23 | unborn | dontknow: coz on my end point it does works.. mine one is en_gb - language setup system wide... but for example in libre office I hate to use us checks otherwise it just did not worked. |
| 22:21.13 | dontknow | unborn, it doesn2t work for me :/ |
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| 22:21.54 | linuxgoof | hey guys |
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| 22:22.09 | linuxgoof | i'm on wheezy trying to update to jessie but i'm having an issue can someone help me out |
| 22:23.04 | unborn | somiaj: okay, iso is installed but when script started it is still asking me (the end user) for password.. means it does not work. what I am trying to achieve is debian install for 60+ of my family members to give them some settings and packages right once debian netinstall is done. I figured out how to do all things like bookmarks in nautilus with all passwords etc.. even vpn but still want to install gimp and other packages, but without asking for |
| 22:23.04 | unborn | root password while they are in live dvd/cd. |
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| 22:23.36 | x032cx | am still running potato maybe i should upgrade to wheezy |
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| 22:23.48 | linuxgoof | lol |
| 22:23.52 | bazhang | potato? |
| 22:24.01 | unborn | somiaj: perhaps it involve more deeper knowledge or something? - it would be just easier to give them install.sh script isn't it? |
| 22:24.45 | unborn | dontknow: what version of debian you are running? |
| 22:24.50 | linuxgoof | i'm getting a dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_215-17+deb8u6_powerpc.deb (--unpack): subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
| 22:25.04 | linuxgoof | don't know why or how to fix |
| 22:25.23 | linuxgoof | results in a Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 22:25.23 | linuxgoof | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:25.36 | dontknow | unborn, jessie. i installed "enchant" package. i think it should work now. maybe i need to restart hexchat |
| 22:26.19 | towo` | linuxgoof, have you tryed apt-get -f install? |
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| 22:27.04 | dontknow | yeah it works now |
| 22:27.11 | unborn | dontknow: perhaps.. I use only free version.. heck Ive seen non free version but nothing like enchant package.. oh you mean hexchat? - well I only use standard packages from debian repos.. they always work man :) |
| 22:27.13 | dontknow | unborn, it works now |
| 22:27.38 | unborn | dontknow: after restart? so - aspell was correct one |
| 22:27.48 | unborn | ...restart of hexchat |
| 22:28.02 | dontknow | unborn, i installed "enchant" package and restarted hexchat |
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| 22:28.32 | linuxgoof | oh wait do i have to reboot with the new kernel before updating the distro |
| 22:28.33 | somiaj | unborn: what live cd/dvd are you talking about? |
| 22:28.40 | unborn | dontknow: yes I did get it in end of my slow understanding process.. sorry for that. well - enjoy ;) |
| 22:28.45 | unborn | somiaj: jessie |
| 22:29.13 | somiaj | the live cd should give the main user sudo privlages without a password, at least that was the way it worked last time I checked. |
| 22:29.14 | towo` | linuxgoof, it's a bad idea to reboot in the middle of a unfinished update |
| 22:29.22 | unborn | somiaj: I am creating live dvd for my mom and father and brother.... |
| 22:29.25 | somiaj | but if you are running a script inside the chroot, this is different. |
| 22:29.51 | bazhang | !potato to wheezy |
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| 22:30.07 | unborn | somiaj: yes that is what I said, however I would like to have them to install some stuff after they log into the system after fresh install |
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| 22:30.25 | somiaj | bazhang: it is release1->release2 and you can't skip releases in the upgrade, so you'll have to go through every release between potato and wheezy |
| 22:30.57 | somiaj | unborn: in that case they will have to run the script as root, you could just set up sudo privagles with no password if you wanted. |
| 22:31.06 | bazhang | somiaj, right, someone just claimed to be running potato here |
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| 22:31.34 | somiaj | unborn: and in this case the fact you installed off a live cd is of no relivance. You are not running inside a live cd so no need to keep mentioning it as it confuses the issue. |
| 22:31.48 | unborn | somiaj: aha! heh I just had that moment of aha.. its working correctly! I just forgot that after install... it all works, script is launched and of course it have to ask for root password, its not a live dvd any more.. meh |
| 22:32.01 | unborn | hides in shame in corner |
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| 22:32.53 | unborn | somiaj: I just realised that.. perhaps I was working too much today.. sorry. you was right from right of the start of our convo. |
| 22:34.37 | unborn | oh man I love debian :) |
| 22:34.44 | x032cx | bazhang:what is wrong with bring an old debian sys to life |
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| 22:37.27 | unborn | somiaj: thank you very much for helping me to realise my mistake! |
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| 22:43.34 | unborn | bazhang: ..why are you trolling? there is no need for it. |
| 22:44.02 | bazhang | unborn, someone else asked about it, scroll up |
| 22:44.58 | unborn | bazhang: plonk |
| 22:45.28 | unborn | scroll your self out there.. please dont spam |
| 22:45.48 | bazhang | unborn, let's leave it be |
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| 22:53.47 | artificial | I changed my sources to stretch, but after running update and upgrade. Nothing changed. 0 packets were upgraded. |
| 22:54.14 | towo` | because you need dist-upgrade instead of upgrade |
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| 22:54.22 | artificial | I did that |
| 22:54.29 | unborn | piratepete: glat to helped you and as you said wife or not always read the mans ;) enjoy your wordpress |
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| 22:54.52 | unborn | jhutchins: are you on i3 or 6? |
| 22:55.15 | unborn | i mean i386 or 64 ? I had issues on i386 |
| 22:56.56 | unborn | when on 64bit I was able to make my quadro grfs working but it was not good for me.. vlc was freezing and all other sort of issues.. so I did changed my laptop for more friendly hardware but perhaps your gfcs is fully supported |
| 22:57.16 | towo` | artificial, you did what? |
| 22:57.22 | unborn | artificial: you did what? |
| 22:57.51 | unborn | artificial: if you installed as towo` said, you would not need to touch sources.. what are you saying? |
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| 22:58.40 | artificial | towo`: unborn I changed sources.list from jessie to stretch. Ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. Yet no packages were upgraded. |
| 22:58.45 | unborn | I mean if you installed from netinstall.. if you done just update to your respos list, you need dist-upgrade |
| 22:59.12 | unborn | artificial: did you run dist-upgrade before those other commands? |
| 22:59.30 | towo` | artificial, provide the output of apt-cache policy on a pastebin |
| 22:59.49 | unborn | artificial: ^^^ |
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| 23:00.58 | artificial | towo`: http://dpaste.com/16NBHCT |
| 23:01.18 | towo` | artificial, have you used your brain? |
| 23:01.39 | artificial | Friendly environment here |
| 23:01.52 | towo` | there is no main debian repo in your sources |
| 23:02.04 | unborn | dpaste.com takes ages to load |
| 23:02.42 | unborn | you got it wrong man |
| 23:03.14 | artificial | I dont? "500 http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates/main Translation-en" |
| 23:03.52 | towo` | there are no stretch/updates (yet) and http://security.debian.org is not the normal debian repo |
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| 23:05.27 | unborn | artificial: please forgive me, do you know that stretch is frozen and its not stable as jessie - perhaps it is but its still not released? means if you dont know how to add the correct repo - which is on debian wiki pages - then you should stay on stable system eg jessie..? |
| 23:05.36 | unborn | just asking |
| 23:06.32 | unborn | ...or perhaps I am very wrong at this.. |
| 23:06.37 | artificial | unborn: I would use jessie, but my hardware is pretty recent and requires kernel 4.6+ |
| 23:06.50 | towo` | and bpo has kernel 4.9 |
| 23:07.09 | towo` | no need for going to stretch, even if you do it wrong |
| 23:07.24 | unborn | artificial: aha.. I see.. it works on ubuntu but not on jessie, I mean debian current |
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| 23:08.58 | artificial | Im just trying out Debian, thinking of switching from Gentoo. Wanted something more stable and was originally going to get jessie, but I noticed jessie uses 3.16. So forgive me if I am a bit uninformed in the debian terminology. |
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| 23:10.56 | epsilon | nothing wrong using backport kernel, many people do it for new hardware |
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| 23:11.36 | artificial | Is jessie recommended for a desktop? Or is it too stale? |
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| 23:11.52 | linuxgoof | i rebooted that solved the issue |
| 23:11.53 | epsilon | absolutly recommended |
| 23:12.16 | linuxgoof | apparently udev required the features of the new kernel to install |
| 23:12.22 | unborn | artificial: i was using gentoo from 2007 to 2009 :) it was well stable but well annoying.. everything manually done.. not even eth was working without editing configs.. got fed up with it and leave it.. you are more then welcome to do latest unstable tests.. here is wiki page https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting with all links you need. |
| 23:12.23 | epsilon | nothing wrong with it, yet some stuff may be outdated if you come from bleeding edge linux |
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| 23:13.24 | Shadow_7_ | I installed gentoo over dialup in 2004 |
| 23:13.52 | unborn | Shadow_7_: I was too young that time to understand the computers.. :) |
| 23:14.04 | epsilon | .oO once it has finished, you had LTE |
| 23:14.46 | unborn | and I still sometimes dont understand them.. |
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| 23:17.47 | unborn | epsilon: great point :) |
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| 23:19.50 | mendi | does debian gui installer automatically format? |
| 23:20.54 | Nik05 | mendi what do you mean with automatiicaly? |
| 23:21.17 | Nik05 | the ui and gui have the same option, the latter only looks "better" |
| 23:21.33 | mendi | I know they both use gparted but |
| 23:21.54 | mendi | does it remove all files or leave left overs if you don't manually format? |
| 23:22.02 | unborn | live patch - wold that be in next release ? - anyone knows? |
| 23:22.35 | mendi | I always formatted the partitions myself to be sure Nik05 xD |
| 23:22.38 | Nik05 | mendi it will probably remove everything if you choose to put it automatically on a drive |
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| 23:23.01 | Nik05 | but that is the same for the other installers, not specific to the gui installer |
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| 23:24.21 | Nik05 | but i think you can let it create partitions automatically on free space mendi |
| 23:24.40 | unborn | ah it will be :) |
| 23:25.17 | Blitzgewitter- | i wonder if something changed regarding wireshark. i used to be able to decode any tcp stream as "SSL". Now that option is just missing, the list of protocols goes from SSH to STANAG. my kali vm and my friends ubuntu still have it. does anyone have an idea? |
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| 23:25.38 | Blitzgewitter- | i'm on debian testing btw |
| 23:25.56 | petemc | Blitzgewitter-: works for me, does it not go green when you type ssl ? |
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| 23:26.26 | Blitzgewitter- | petemc: that's not what i mean. rightclick on a tcp packet -> decode as -> set current to SSL |
| 23:26.34 | petemc | h |
| 23:26.35 | unborn | Blitzgewitter-: ssl is too board, what set you looking at? |
| 23:26.59 | Nik05 | Blitzgewitter- since what version do you have this? |
| 23:27.20 | unborn | i mean ciphers |
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| 23:27.28 | Blitzgewitter- | Nik05: can't say for sure. wireshark is now v2.2.4 |
| 23:27.32 | Blitzgewitter- | i think it worked a few months ago |
| 23:27.45 | Blitzgewitter- | unborn: i don't understand the question |
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| 23:28.08 | unborn | Blitzgewitter-: ah I see.. well then. |
| 23:29.01 | Nik05 | Blitzgewitter- after septembre? |
| 23:29.29 | Nik05 | then 2.2.0 came out on debian |
| 23:29.50 | Blitzgewitter- | Nik05: actually, i believe it worked ~3 weeks ago. i don't use this feature very often, sorry |
| 23:30.05 | Nik05 | oh wait that is on unstable, not sure what the version in testing was |
| 23:30.51 | artificial | epsilon: If I install the bpo kernel do I need to remove the official one? |
| 23:30.55 | Blitzgewitter- | i mean, what would be the reason for it? you think it may be a bug? |
| 23:31.03 | Nik05 | Blitzgewitter- 3 weeks ago 2.2.3 was in testing |
| 23:31.44 | Blitzgewitter- | so maybe something happened from 2.2.3 to 2.2.4 |
| 23:32.04 | unborn | :) |
| 23:32.23 | Blitzgewitter- | i can't roll it back on debian, can i? |
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| 23:33.21 | Nik05 | only bug fixes Blitzgewitter- |
| 23:33.28 | Blitzgewitter- | hm |
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| 23:33.47 | epsilon | artificial: it's done automated (and IIRC you have even 2 kernel to select in grub) |
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| 23:35.37 | awal1 | mendi, any free space (x partition, entire disk...) you decide to use will be formated completely, except an existing linux swap, if not told to do |
| 23:36.58 | Verity | checking Python's configuration directory... (cached) |
| 23:36.58 | Verity | can't find it! |
| 23:36.58 | Verity | configure: error: could not configure python |
| 23:37.09 | Verity | trying to install VIM 7.4 on debian, what is going on? |
| 23:37.44 | unborn | Verity: and whats your question actually? |
| 23:37.44 | Verity | its already such an annoying waste of time just getting it running its proving to me there is no reason to swtich |
| 23:38.08 | Verity | begins to urinate onto unborn |
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| 23:38.48 | unborn | Verity: plonk - good luck with your rubbish |
| 23:38.59 | unborn | enjoys it |
| 23:39.05 | awal1 | artificial, no |
| 23:39.06 | stoned | dude. |
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| 23:40.14 | awal1 | btw, bpo also are official |
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| 23:43.22 | piklu | Hi |
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| 23:43.38 | piklu | any brave soul here to help debug my tightvnc with gnome, its not working, shows up a gray screen |
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| 23:43.51 | Verity | piklu, what does the job pay |
| 23:43.59 | piklu | Verity : respect mostly |
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| 23:44.58 | jrtc27 | ,v vim |
| 23:45.00 | judd | Package: vim on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:7.3.547-7; wheezy-security: 2:7.3.547-7+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 2:7.4.488-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u2; jessie-security: 2:7.4.488-7+deb8u2; sid: 2:8.0.0197-2; stretch: 2:8.0.0197-2 |
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| 23:45.35 | Verity | its 7.3 on my distro for some reason |
| 23:45.53 | Verity | this is useless |
| 23:46.02 | jrtc27 | either you're running wheezy, or not Debian at all |
| 23:46.10 | Verity | probably on wheezy, yes |
| 23:46.15 | themill | 'probably' |
| 23:46.27 | jrtc27 | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 23:46.39 | Verity | 7.8 |
| 23:46.47 | jrtc27 | that's wheezy |
| 23:46.47 | jrtc27 | update |
| 23:46.54 | Verity | I can't |
| 23:46.55 | themill | Perhaps it is time to upgrade to a supported release. |
| 23:46.56 | Verity | it broke the vps last timer |
| 23:47.00 | Verity | and they said dont do that |
| 23:47.16 | jrtc27 | wheezy is ancient |
| 23:47.22 | themill | Find someone more clueful to give your money |
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| 23:48.11 | jrtc27 | or you can install the version from wheezy-backports, but I would still advise upgrading to jessie |
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| 23:49.05 | linuxgoof | does anyone here know if resilio sync can be installed on powerpc architecture? |
| 23:49.23 | linuxgoof | resilio sync = the newer bittorrent sync |
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| 23:50.58 | jrtc27 | curl -L 'http://linux-packages.resilio.com/resilio-sync/deb/dists/resilio-sync/InRelease' |
| 23:51.08 | jrtc27 | only i386, amd64, armel, armhf |
| 23:51.19 | linuxgoof | hmph |
| 23:51.24 | Verity | so I just do |
| 23:51.26 | linuxgoof | weird i could've sworn it used to be supported |
| 23:51.29 | Verity | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 23:51.36 | Verity | and hope it doesnt destroy everything like last time? |
| 23:51.42 | linuxgoof | ah yes it seems ppc was dropped |
| 23:51.55 | linuxgoof | well i found the latest release for it: http://internal.getsync.com/2.0.85/ |
| 23:52.00 | jrtc27 | they're idiots for not including the debian version codename in the suite though |
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| 23:52.54 | Verity | jrtc27, |
| 23:52.59 | jrtc27 | !jessie |
| 23:52.59 | dpkg | Jessie is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 8, released on 2015-04-25: http://www.debian.org/News/2015/20150426 . Jessie is the cowgirl in Toy Story 2. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianJessie and ask me about <install jessie> <release notes> <wheezy->jessie>. Currently <8.7>. |
| 23:53.07 | jrtc27 | !release notes |
| 23:53.07 | dpkg | Release notes for Debian 8 "Jessie" are at http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/releasenotes . See also <wheezy->jessie>, <install guide>. |
| 23:53.14 | jrtc27 | !wheezy->jessie |
| 23:53.28 | Verity | maybe I should justg fiund another host |
| 23:53.34 | Verity | this is cutting into my productivity |
| 23:53.36 | Verity | SEVERELY |
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| 23:54.23 | dc123 | hi guys what happens if i don't install DesktopEnvironment but i do install xfce? |
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| 23:56.39 | Verity | ok |
| 23:56.44 | Verity | those fools put 7 on there |
| 23:56.49 | Verity | They've been spoken to |
| 23:56.51 | Verity | installing 8 now |