| 00:00.27 | Kobaz | you can probably also use the device link and bus id information |
| 00:00.52 | Kobaz | something like that /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:11.0/ata6/host5/target5:0:0/5:0:0:0 |
| 00:01.03 | Kobaz | from thw hwinfo --disk info |
| 00:01.18 | Kobaz | ah yes |
| 00:01.22 | Kobaz | 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] |
| 00:01.27 | Kobaz | that matches lspci device ids |
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| 00:56.39 | dvs | again?!? dang it! |
| 00:59.40 | Kobaz | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.52 | Kobaz | it's kind of working, almost |
| 01:01.06 | Kobaz | oh i think that's good actually |
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| 01:46.47 | k000 | how to change the keymap? |
| 01:47.55 | missmbob | !keymap |
| 01:47.55 | dpkg | Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
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| 01:51.36 | k000 | !keymap |
| 01:51.36 | dpkg | Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
| 01:51.53 | awal1 | k000, as dpkg told you: "setxkbmap -layout yourlanguage" for X(org) |
| 01:52.18 | awal1 | dpkg-reconfigure .... for X and Console |
| 01:52.33 | k000 | "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" works fine, thx |
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| 02:13.51 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
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| 02:14.43 | tobiasBora | I would like to know my bandwith internet usage, but all the tools I tried (for example with "sudo iftop -i wlp3s0") cannot see how many data go though my ethernet card, they always give me "0" |
| 02:14.47 | tobiasBora | Any idea why? |
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| 02:16.17 | tobiasBora | oh, bmon works |
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| 02:18.09 | awal1 | tobiasBora, you can look at 'iperf' |
| 02:18.19 | awal1 | that'sa nice advanced tool |
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| 02:43.26 | tobiasBora | awal1: With iperf it will create your own server, so you cannot really see what happened now on your card right? |
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| 03:09.38 | SnakesAndStuff | Any suggestion on getting an Intel 8260 wireless adapter to work with the Debian 8 live CD (Gnome)? |
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| 04:11.47 | jasonwc | I have setup /etc/network/interfaces.d/eth1 to "mtu 9000" but it doesn't apply on startup. I'm seeing MTU1500. However, ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000 works, so I'm not sure why it's not being applied. |
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| 04:28.19 | jak2000 | hi all |
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| 04:28.29 | jak2000 | how to check if apache is listen on port 80? |
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| 04:29.20 | jasonwc | Found my answer. The MTU setting doesn't seem to apply unless you use "iface eth1 inet static" |
| 04:30.23 | cef | jak2000: sudo netstat -tunap|grep apache |
| 04:33.09 | themill | jasonwc: the dhcp server would normally tell the client such information -- the assumption is that the dhcp server should know how the network should be configured. I think you can set it in the dhclient.conf too if you need to |
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| 04:33.51 | jasonwc | I seem to have encountered a bug with the Nvidia drivers in Debian Jessie which impact both the version in Jessie (340.10137) and Jessie-Backports (375-26). It causes freezing while pausing videos, or sometimes in the menu, while using OpenPHT. I've tested OpenPHT's embedded version on the same hardware with a newer version of the Nvidia driver (375.39) and did not encounter this issue. |
| 04:33.59 | jak2000 | cef thanks |
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| 04:44.10 | stoned | how do I know if dnsmasq caching is working? |
| 04:44.20 | stoned | I setted it up |
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| 04:49.19 | b0f | I have an (old) AMD GPU and shocked to find fglrx is currently not available; anyone have an idea when it will make it into testing? |
| 04:50.12 | b0f | I suppose I am glad it's coming back. Nvidia proprietary no longer supports the old GPU I was using and I want OpenCL running |
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| 04:50.56 | rootkea | Hello! I am using Debian Jessie. And I noticed something weird with packages. To install hexchat-plugins apt-get removes hexchat. Now Why one would want to install hexchat-plugins but install hexchat itself? |
| 04:50.58 | cef | b0f: which gpu? |
| 04:51.20 | rootkea | *uninstall hexchat |
| 04:51.24 | b0f | #debianRadeon HD 8570 |
| 04:51.33 | themill | !bat |
| 04:51.34 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 04:51.46 | cef | b0f: I actually meant the nvidia one.. but that's cool too. |
| 04:51.53 | themill | rootkea: ^^ details are necessary, please |
| 04:51.59 | b0f | the nvidia one is now in a box somewhere |
| 04:52.30 | b0f | I want the HD 8750 (really cheap low end and old) to run deka |
| 04:52.57 | b0f | I swapped because nouveau doesn't do opencl |
| 04:53.23 | cef | rootkea: you have backports enabled yes? |
| 04:53.27 | b0f | Nope |
| 04:53.28 | themill | rootkea: hexchat-plugins isn't in jessie so that's not going to help the situation. |
| 04:53.32 | ohithere | rootkea: hexchat-plugins isn't a package available on my jessie box |
| 04:53.40 | b0f | I am running vanilla testing on this machine |
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| 04:54.48 | cef | rootkea: backports has 2.12 in it, jessie has 2.10. if you specify hexchat-plugins it'll install that and remove the old version, but because you've not told it to use jessie-backports, it won't install hexchat 2.12 |
| 04:55.19 | cef | rootkea: try `sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports -s install hexchat-plugins` and see what that does. |
| 04:55.47 | cef | rootkea: note that -s is simulate, so it won't actually install it. |
| 04:56.08 | rootkea | cef, I think I need to do `sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install hexchat` and then apt-get install hexchat-plugins |
| 04:56.43 | themill | rootkea: do it in one command |
| 04:56.46 | cef | rootkea: if you actually pass it, it'll be able to fulfil the dependencies. |
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| 04:57.29 | cef | rootkea: the issue is that because you're not explicitly telling it to install from backports, it can't properly work out the dependencies. |
| 04:58.05 | rootkea | themill, ok. I'll get back to you once I did that to report if it worked. Need to close hexchat now and disconnect |
| 04:58.20 | rootkea | cef, I wonder if aptitude would have done the same |
| 04:58.49 | cef | b0f: sorry. was talking to rootkea. multitasking. ;) |
| 04:59.14 | b0f | cef: no worries - I got that and decided to shut up for a while :) |
| 04:59.40 | cef | b0f: I think most radeon stuff now is supported by the modesetting driver.. not sure about that specific chip/board |
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| 04:59.54 | b0f | I guess the same applies here - check backports? I see it was pulled because it didn't work with Gnome3 and I use that |
| 05:00.21 | cef | b0f: well if you're running testing, you have all the same packages.. |
| 05:00.35 | b0f | ah ok, then I might need to wait |
| 05:00.36 | cef | b0f: and there is no stretch backports yet that I'm aware of. |
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| 05:01.20 | b0f | I tend to run testing on almost everything and find it great. First problem in years (well, aside from nvidia proprietary) |
| 05:01.49 | cef | b0f: and you couldn't use the nvidia legacy driver with the nvidia card? |
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| 05:02.14 | rootkea | themill, cef, thanks it worked! |
| 05:02.49 | b0f | cef: it gets too messy. can always buy a new card but time lost is hard to recover |
| 05:03.03 | cef | b0f: true true.. |
| 05:03.20 | b0f | cef: As it's an old box and a PoC I can either wait or suffer the CPU driver |
| 05:03.36 | b0f | cef: or get into software config hell |
| 05:03.45 | b0f | cef: waiting wins :) |
| 05:03.57 | cef | b0f: I am running the built in intel graphics atm.. tho thinking I might just go buy a cheap nvidia card instead.. since in backports/testing the intel driver isn't very up to date. |
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| 05:05.00 | cef | b0f: heh.. yeah.. in my case, it'll most likely be waiting till stretch-backports appears |
| 05:05.09 | b0f | cef: he he |
| 05:05.59 | b0f | cef: I'm happy enough - I have hit the sweet spot in minimal sysadmin effort for max reward |
| 05:06.16 | cef | b0f: cos unless the debian X team manage to get mesa 17 into stretch, I'm going to just have to live with weird 3D glitches. :/ |
| 05:07.31 | themill | maybe into stretch-backports but not into stretch |
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| 05:08.22 | cef | themill: correct. which means I need to wait till stretch is released, upgrade, then wait till people start actually producing backport pkgs for stretch |
| 05:08.35 | themill | also seems to need a backport of llvm first |
| 05:08.39 | cef | guess I could upgrade to stretch now.. but yeah |
| 05:09.12 | b0f | when is stretch due? |
| 05:09.32 | themill | !wwsr |
| 05:09.32 | dpkg | Well... it's starting to get distinctly chilly... Debian 9 "Stretch" will probably release in mid-2017. It will release sooner if you help fix bugs in stretch and sid... take that as a challenge. Ask me about <stretch freeze>, <how-can-i-help> https://udd.debian.org/bugs/ |
| 05:09.49 | cef | themill: they're all in experiemental atm afaik.. but yeah.. no idea what sort of bugs that might eat things are in that |
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| 05:10.45 | themill | llvm-toolchain-4.0 is in unstable |
| 05:12.14 | cef | themill: yeah, but mesa 17 and libdrm 2.4.75 are in experiemental atm (they're the things that will most likely help me). might be there cos buggy, or might be there cos of the stretch freeze. I can wait I guess. ;) |
| 05:13.01 | cef | themill: the issues with running the new intel Kaby Lake CPU's inbuilt graphics I guess. ;) |
| 05:13.03 | themill | I suspect for both reasons |
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| 05:19.22 | aberrant | Hi all. Can someone please explain how my eth0 is participating in dhcp when Iâve got `iface eth0 inet manual` in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 05:21.06 | Ben64 | aberrant: hey you're not running debian either, doesn't belong here |
| 05:21.27 | aberrant | Ben64: thanks for following me here, but itâs an appropriate place to ask. |
| 05:21.31 | Ben64 | it isn't |
| 05:21.44 | aberrant | then feel free to /ignore. |
| 05:21.53 | Ben64 | just use the right channels |
| 05:22.05 | cef | aberrant: Ubuntu? sounds like network manager. can't help you with that here. |
| 05:22.16 | aberrant | cef: raspbian |
| 05:22.49 | cef | aberrant: oh. good luck. |
| 05:22.53 | aberrant | heh, thanks. |
| 05:23.15 | aberrant | (Iâve asked in those channels also but they seem to be pretty dormant) |
| 05:24.49 | borsin | is 'manual' an option for interfaces? are you trying to set it 'static'? |
| 05:26.08 | aberrant | borsin: `manual` is definitely an option, as itâs on both my systems |
| 05:26.32 | aberrant | I donât want it to be `static` - dhcp is fine - but Iâm just trying to figure out how itâs participating in dhcp. |
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| 05:26.55 | aberrant | itâs not listed anywhere in /etc/dhcpcd.conf |
| 05:27.10 | aberrant | Iâm just trying to figure out how the networking setup actually works (or doesn't). |
| 05:27.35 | cef | Q: What's the recommended way of adding your own program to the debian menu when using the default Debian Desktop environment? |
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| 05:28.16 | cef | 'manual' in /etc/network/interfaces means you'll handle it in the ifup/ifdown scripts yourself, at least in debian. |
| 05:28.33 | aberrant | cef: ah, let me look in the scripts directory. |
| 05:31.20 | aberrant | ah, found something: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=110606 |
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| 05:37.01 | pantato | does anyone have any experience overclocking their usb mouse on debian? I've only been able to do it on ubuntu |
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| 05:40.11 | aberrant | alright everyone, thanks. I found the answer in that link I posted. Cheers. |
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| 05:42.38 | pantato | anyone? |
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| 05:53.53 | rootkea1 | Hello! I'm new to terminal IRC clients. I found irssi and weechat but can't decide on whic one to use. Which terminal IRC client do you use? Which one will you suggest? |
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| 05:55.20 | rootkea1 | *which |
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| 06:00.36 | xormor | rootkea1, irssi |
| 06:00.53 | xormor | there was ircii in the '90's when I was a teenager, but now there is irssi. |
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| 06:03.08 | rootkea1 | xormor: Why not weechat? |
| 06:04.54 | xormor | I don't know. I could test it myself! |
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| 06:10.06 | xormor | rootkea1, weechat looks better - the User Interface is nicer than irssi's. |
| 06:10.24 | rootkea | xormor, I echo that! |
| 06:11.13 | rootkea | xormor, Sorry testing IRC clients right now. So have connected through irssi, weechat and hexchat |
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| 06:13.21 | xormor | rootkea, yea |
| 06:14.28 | cef | Q: What's the recommended way (config files, tools, etc) to put your own program inoto the debian menu when using the default Debian Desktop environment? Any ideas? |
| 06:14.47 | _rubik | rootkea: I used irssi for quite a while, but ended up switching to weechat becuase it's more attractive out of the box |
| 06:15.50 | rootkea | _rubik, is there something which weechat doesn't support/do but irssi does? |
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| 06:16.49 | themill | cef: "Debian menu" probably isn't the best way of doing it. (It's going away) |
| 06:17.02 | _rubik | rootkea: Honestly, I really liked how customizabl irssi was. There were all sorts of packages to configure the thing. It wasn't for a while until I realized I was configuring my irssi to be weechat. |
| 06:17.16 | _rubik | Have been using default weechat ever since. |
| 06:17.54 | _rubik | rootkea: Oh... and a big reason why I said no to irssi, weechat can split it's windows vertically AND horizontally.. irrsi cannot |
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| 06:18.25 | cef | themill: I don't mean "menu" if that's what you're thinking.. I know that's going away.. by "Debian Menu" I mean the standard left side list of programs on a default Debian Desktop. |
| 06:18.49 | themill | So not the Debian Menu then ;) |
| 06:19.19 | themill | There should be a menu editor. |
| 06:19.29 | cef | themill: fair enuff, but I don't know what it's called. :P |
| 06:19.46 | cef | themill: or what else to call it.. to me, it's a menu of some sort. |
| 06:20.01 | themill | Also "default Debian Desktop" isn't really helping me... are we talking gnome? xfce? |
| 06:20.08 | themill | ,i alacarte |
| 06:20.09 | judd | Package alacarte (utils, optional) in jessie/amd64: easy GNOME menu editing tool. Version: 3.11.91-2; Size: 108.5k; Installed: 1181k; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/alacarte |
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| 06:20.24 | rootkea | cef, on xfce I use MenuLibre |
| 06:20.29 | cef | themill: the default you get in Jessie which, when you install, is referred to as "Debian Desktop". :P |
| 06:20.52 | themill | still not helping me |
| 06:21.26 | rootkea | cef, screenshot? |
| 06:21.33 | themill | (although I at least know it's jessie now...) |
| 06:21.38 | cef | themill: not helping me either.. I suspect it's the debian gnome thing (ie: not actually "gnome" like iceweasel is not firefox, etc). |
| 06:22.09 | themill | there is no debian gnome thing |
| 06:22.09 | kileo | With netflix now supporting firefox on linux, is firefox-esr (v45*) on Debian 9 going to work with it or will there be a backport later on for a version 47* or higher? |
| 06:22.56 | rootkea | _rubik, looks like I'm going to be a weechat user. Thank you! |
| 06:23.21 | cef | themill: ok.. it's gnome 3.14 |
| 06:23.21 | TimurTheLame | cef, are you talking about the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications? |
| 06:23.35 | themill | kileo: v52 ESR at mozilla.debian.net |
| 06:24.00 | cef | TimurTheLame: I'm talking about wanting to add my own programs to the menu.. if that's how I do it, then that's how I do it. :P |
| 06:24.27 | TimurTheLame | cef, checked themill's suggestion? Alacarte? |
| 06:24.28 | themill | cef: the menu editor will add them in $HOME not in /usr/share though |
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| 06:25.17 | cef | TimurTheLame: Looking at it now |
| 06:25.24 | cef | themill: that's fine by me.. |
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| 06:27.03 | kileo | themill: Would it be more stable to use the firefox package from sid over the firefox-esr from experimental? |
| 06:27.43 | cef | *sigh* so.. I installed it.. and thought "well, it'd surely be called "alacarte" and have an icon in the gui of all applications.. but no.. it' |
| 06:27.58 | cef | it's there, but it's called "Main menu" *sigh* |
| 06:28.20 | themill | cef: gnome wants to call things "Web browser" etc not "Firefox". I don't use gnome. |
| 06:28.59 | themill | kileo: oh, for stretch? I don't really know what to advise for stretch. |
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| 06:34.15 | cef | themill: I used cinnamon for a whoile.. found it problematic.. tried mate for a day.. didn't last longer than that. used to used LXDE, KDE and others but I've gotten tired of the shoe-horning that happens to get the supposed "gnome" way of doing things shoved down every other system's throats breaking the other paradigms.. gnome is annoyingly all-pervasive. |
| 06:35.04 | cef | themill: thanks for the help tho. |
| 06:35.19 | themill | np, good luck with it |
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| 06:43.12 | cef | Ugh. Adding an icon to the "Main Menu" works, but to get it to show up the actual icon, you need to restart gnome it seems. Oh well. All done now. |
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| 07:45.30 | user1 | hi there! |
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| 07:46.59 | user1 | I would like to ask something about environment variable |
| 07:47.31 | nkuttler | just ask |
| 07:48.20 | user1 | if the right location, formally supported, is "profile.d" why Debian doesn't execute the scripts inside it? |
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| 07:49.10 | user1 | the problem is |
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| 07:49.38 | user1 | I need to define enviroment variable by espression |
| 07:49.45 | nkuttler | user1: those should be include by /etc/profile |
| 07:49.53 | nkuttler | what does that mean? |
| 07:50.27 | user1 | I try to explain , my english is poor |
| 07:51.03 | user1 | to update JAVA_HOME env variable when I change the java verison by update-alternative |
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| 07:51.15 | user1 | i did the following configuration |
| 07:51.21 | user1 | and works under Ubuntu |
| 07:51.26 | user1 | export JAVA_HOME=$(readlink -f /usr/local/bin/java | sed "s:/bin/java::") |
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| 07:51.48 | user1 | that espression is inside a script executed in profile.d |
| 07:51.57 | nkuttler | user1: just put that in your ~/.bashrc |
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| 07:52.10 | user1 | BUT... in Debian the scripts under profile.d aren't executed at all |
| 07:52.15 | nkuttler | and wth is /usr/local/bin/java anyway.. |
| 07:52.23 | nkuttler | user1: i seriously doubt that |
| 07:52.40 | nkuttler | user1: if it is, something is wrong with your setup |
| 07:53.09 | user1 | java_home has to be a globa setting for all user |
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| 07:55.10 | user1 | how can i solve the problem? |
| 07:55.24 | flapjack | hello fellow debianites |
| 07:55.27 | user1 | there is a way to execute the scripts in profile.d? |
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| 07:58.39 | McErroneous | How do i get "set"-command to work to show variables in debian - bash ? |
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| 08:00.25 | Epakai | does the installer install recommends when it installs a desktop environment task (like task-kde-desktop)? |
| 08:02.20 | n4dir | what do you mean with recommends? |
| 08:02.37 | n4dir | which DE? Or a DE at all? |
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| 08:05.00 | Epakai | debian packages have 'depends' (other packages that are required for a package to work) and 'recommends' (not requried, but often useful/related) |
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| 08:06.48 | n4dir | Ah. Sorry, too tired. - Not sure, per default recommends don't get installed, not sure if that is valid for taskel too |
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| 08:21.39 | Epakai | tasksel was a nice lead, but the documentation didn't explicitly say |
| 08:22.33 | n4dir | a pity |
| 08:22.37 | dgriffi | I'm using MATE 1.16.1 in Stretch. when the screen is told to blank, it also locks, regardless of wether I've told it to do that or not. Nobody is besides me as been active in #mate for more than 24 hours. |
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| 08:28.19 | dgriffi | is anyone awake in here? |
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| 08:29.20 | TimurTheLame | dgriffi, midnight in the US, morning in Europe, so pretty much no |
| 08:30.26 | jcdm | How does the chromium-widevine package (stretch) work, after installing I don't see it under "chrome://components" or extensions? |
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| 08:31.56 | TimurTheLame | jcdm, try running "chromium --enable-remote-extensions" in the cli |
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| 08:33.21 | TimurTheLame | jcdm, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=851692 |
| 08:33.22 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/851692 in chromium (closed): «chromium: startup script is disabling all extensions»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2017-01-17; last modified: 2017-03-01. |
| 08:34.55 | TimurTheLame | jcdm, https://lovingthepenguin.blogspot.com/2017/01/fixing-chromium-remote-extension_23.html |
| 08:35.22 | TimurTheLame | jcdm, it applies to stretch, too |
| 08:36.49 | jcdm | TimurTheLame: Opening a new window with that command still doesn't list widevine in components and websites can't find it either. |
| 08:38.06 | TimurTheLame | jcdm, can you try backing up your current ~/.config/chromium folder and start chromium with the argument above? |
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| 08:43.13 | jcdm | Backing up and deleting ~/.config/chromium and then running "chromium --enable-remote-extensions" still doesn't show widevine and I still get an error from the website. "chromium-widevine/testing,now 57.0.2987.98-1 amd64 [installed]" |
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| 08:44.59 | TheWitherDragon | !ops i am evading all the bans and k-lines for the lulz |
| 08:45.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: thewitherdragon complains about: i am evading all the bans and k-lines for the lulz |
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| 08:58.20 | d3xter | hey guys, is there a way to find out if the screen is blank apart from "xset q" and looking for "Monitor: off"? |
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| 09:31.16 | dgriffi | umm... why is libjasper missing from Stretch repos? |
| 09:32.04 | bazhang | ,v libjasper-runtime |
| 09:32.05 | judd | Package: libjasper-runtime on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.900.1-13+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 1.900.1-13+deb7u5; jessie: 1.900.1-debian1-2.4+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 1.900.1-debian1-2.4+deb8u2; jessie-security: 1.900.1-debian1-2.4+deb8u2 |
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| 09:34.43 | dgriffi | yes, I can see that it's not in Stretch. |
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| 09:38.19 | TomTomTo1 | #812630 |
| 09:38.20 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/812630 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: jasper -- RoQA; dead upstrem, replaced by openjpeg»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-01-25; last modified: 2017-01-04. |
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| 09:40.38 | dgriffi | so.... someone posted to the bug report that libjasper is now being actively maintained, yet the report was closed on account of the upstream being dead... |
| 09:40.44 | dgriffi | ??? |
| 09:41.34 | Papillon | glitch in the matrix |
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| 09:44.42 | dgriffi | grr... the build process is a mess and doesn't jibe with the docs |
| 09:45.00 | Papillon | for jasper? |
| 09:45.03 | dgriffi | yes |
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| 09:45.31 | dgriffi | Papillon: it uses cmake, but there's stuff in build already... to compile it |
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| 09:45.43 | dgriffi | Papillon: but there's no obvious way to install it |
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| 09:46.05 | dgriffi | Papillon: simply typing "make" doesn't work because cmake didn't produce any makefiles |
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| 09:47.43 | Latituder | is there any package like cpu z for cpu benchmarking and see its score |
| 09:47.43 | Latituder | ?? |
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| 09:50.57 | Papillon | probably |
| 09:51.12 | Papillon | search packages.debian.org for benchmark |
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| 10:03.57 | pantato | can anyone help me with this mouse overclocking issue? I can't overclock my mouse despite successfully adjusting the usbhid value |
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| 10:10.59 | pantato | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/1/view/7wi31rid5c4uost/Apps/Shutter/dissident%40picard%3A%20%7E_001.png can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong when it comes to overclocking my mouse? |
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| 10:14.28 | plasmoduck | overclocking a mouse? |
| 10:14.30 | plasmoduck | why? |
| 10:14.41 | plasmoduck | never heard of that |
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| 10:17.15 | aZz7eCh | i think he means the dpi |
| 10:17.37 | aZz7eCh | that or wow... how far behind the times am i if people are overclocking mice these days |
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| 10:19.08 | dgriffi | what would overclocking a mouse actually do for you? |
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| 10:19.25 | aZz7eCh | and where will you mount the heatsink |
| 10:19.26 | Papillon | better reaction rate presumably |
| 10:19.28 | pantato | aZz7eCh: no. i am adjusting the polling rate, not the dpi. |
| 10:19.42 | pantato | polling rate is the response time of the mouse essentially. The lag time. |
| 10:19.57 | dgriffi | that sounds like something that lies with the microcontroller within the mouse itself |
| 10:19.58 | pantato | the default 125 hz is not viable for competitive FPS. 500 and above is |
| 10:20.18 | pantato | it needs to be adjusted on the OS side |
| 10:20.30 | aZz7eCh | are you sure the mouse settings dont Tell the OS ? |
| 10:20.48 | pantato | yes. I'm absolutely positive |
| 10:21.02 | pantato | i've adjusted it successfully on ubuntu 14.04 |
| 10:21.12 | pantato | i switched to debian and now i'm having trouble |
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| 10:21.42 | pantato | https://www.howtogeek.com/182702/mouse-dpi-and-polling-rates-explained-do-they-matter-for-gaming/ |
| 10:22.26 | pantato | the default 125 hz is 8ms lag. 500hz is 2ms and 1000 is 1ms |
| 10:22.31 | pantato | 125 sucks. |
| 10:23.01 | aZz7eCh | i have google but looks like a varied issue. but certainly looks like plenty of others doing the same thing. I cant help you with it, but stick around in chan, someone might respond having resolved similar issues |
| 10:23.43 | pantato | its very frustrating ive been declining game invitations all day |
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| 10:51.53 | dgriffi | does anyone here still like John Bradley's xv program? |
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| 10:55.51 | Papillon | I like mplayer though I haven't found a good gui for it, and vlc, but new options are always nice, I wasn't too excited about intel's vaapi, but it seems like it's been accepted by nvidia and amd, so that might be the future |
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| 10:57.34 | dgriffi | Papillon: are you repling to my query on Bradley's xv? |
| 10:57.58 | Papillon | I think so, xv's that video acceleration thing, right? |
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| 10:58.20 | Papillon | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Video_Bitstream_Acceleration |
| 10:58.29 | dgriffi | that's not the xv I'm thinking of |
| 10:58.48 | dgriffi | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xv_%28software%29 |
| 10:58.50 | dgriffi | that's the one |
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| 10:59.22 | Papillon | the image viewers I've used and liked have been acdsee and more recently irfanview |
| 10:59.29 | dgriffi | I'm having trouble with some nuances of libpng's structures |
| 10:59.38 | Papillon | haven't had much success finding a good one on linux |
| 10:59.54 | dgriffi | I have a github repo of xv kept up to date to make sure it compiles and runs with modern unicies |
| 11:00.10 | dgriffi | so far, so good. now that Stretch is appearing, some bitrot appeared |
| 11:00.10 | Papillon | I want to like png but the file sizes are always just crazy, ten times larger than they should be |
| 11:00.11 | fewioh | Hello. Does Debian Testing contain freeze periods even if I use Testing as my sources (rather than Stretch) ? |
| 11:00.34 | dgriffi | Papillon: first thing to fix was some oddities with zlib. easy. |
| 11:00.50 | Papillon | good |
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| 11:01.27 | dgriffi | Papillon: now I get this when compiling: http://pastebin.com/DGy8yhJq |
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| 11:02.28 | Papillon | it seems like it should be easier to find and compare libraries |
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| 11:04.17 | Papillon | my c's worse than I though, you might ask in a c specific room or linux or some place |
| 11:04.30 | Papillon | is it possible that there's a struct conflict? |
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| 11:05.00 | Papillon | https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=c+error+dereferencing+pointer+to+incomplete+type |
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| 11:05.52 | Papillon | are you sure those structs are defined somewhere? |
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| 11:06.24 | Papillon | "dereferencing pointer to incomplete type" means you are trying to access something in a struct that hasn't been defined yet. It's been declared, but not defined. |
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| 11:06.49 | dgriffi | Papillon: yeah... in /usr/include/png.h. but the way the struct is defined is beyond belief... it's buried in macros. there's no actual struct { blah blah } stuff for me to look at. |
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| 11:07.12 | Papillon | odd... you'd think libpng would just work |
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| 11:07.25 | dgriffi | lots of ifdefs on how libpng is compiled to decide if something is included in the struct statement presented to the compiler |
| 11:07.28 | Papillon | macros as in pecompiler macros? |
| 11:07.41 | dgriffi | look at /usr/include/png.h and see for yourself |
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| 11:08.06 | Papillon | I don't have that, but I guess maybe you could fix it with some compile time flags? |
| 11:08.12 | Papillon | or in the make file or whatever |
| 11:08.28 | Papillon | or maybe just define it in xv |
| 11:09.58 | dgriffi | Papillon: check this out for yuks: http://pastebin.com/7DUSY2km |
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| 11:10.09 | dgriffi | I think I figured out the long jump substitutes |
| 11:10.18 | dgriffi | just one more oddity to squash |
| 11:10.53 | Papillon | y2k compliance by 2017! |
| 11:10.59 | dgriffi | something changed with libpng between Jessie and Stretch |
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| 11:12.55 | fewioh | Hello. Does Debian Testing contain freeze periods even if I use Testing as my sources (rather than Stretch) ? |
| 11:13.45 | dgriffi | fewioh: Testing is Stretch. |
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| 11:14.12 | fewioh | dgriffi: I mean when Stretch will become the new stable. There'll be a freezing period, right? |
| 11:14.35 | dgriffi | fewioh: when Stretch becomes stable, then for an instant, stable is the same as testing. |
| 11:14.37 | fewioh | What if I don't want my system to turn into Stable over time, but I want to stick to Testing; will I still undergo a freeze period? |
| 11:15.04 | dgriffi | fewioh: then the freezes will be removed from Testing and things start happening all over again |
| 11:15.33 | dgriffi | fewioh: just use "testing" instead of "stretch" in your sources.list files |
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| 11:16.36 | fewioh | It still sounds vague. How long is 'an instant'? Aren't the freeze periods multiple months long? |
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| 11:17.39 | Papillon | it depends, I don't think ~30 days would be unusual |
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| 11:20.47 | cef | pantato: what's in your /etc/modprobe.d/usbhid.conf file? |
| 11:20.59 | bernhardr | Hi im struggeling while upgrading the kernel. your help is much appriciated to solve this issue.. |
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| 11:21.10 | bernhardr | Please see the error etc here http://pastebin.com/S16u00zp |
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| 11:21.59 | pantato | cef: |
| 11:22.15 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
| 11:22.24 | bernhardr | this seems to be because rootfs eg. /dev/mapper/root is to small and almost full /dev/mapper/root 329233 270869 41366 87% / |
| 11:22.29 | pantato | cef: options usbhid mousepoll=2 |
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| 11:22.59 | pantato | cef: also when i run cat /sys/module/usbhid/parameters/mousepoll it yields "2" and it just DOESN'T work. My mouse simply STUCK at 125 hz. So frustrating!! |
| 11:23.07 | cef | pantato: which kernel are you running? |
| 11:23.22 | pantato | 4.9.0-2-amd64 |
| 11:23.52 | cef | pantato: using stretch? |
| 11:25.08 | pantato | cef: sid |
| 11:25.14 | pantato | unstable |
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| 11:26.34 | cef | pantato: ahh ok.. hrm.. I am running jessie (with backports) and yeah.. I've been able to set my mousepoll to 1 successfully.. I need to check the returned poll rate tho |
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| 11:27.28 | pantato | cef: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mouserate/ if you run this java program does it yield ~1000 hz ? |
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| 11:30.33 | pantato | cef: or this program https://gitlab.com/iankelling/evhz/tree/master |
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| 11:31.28 | cef | pantato: I just checked in lsusb, and no.. it's still at 100 Hz.. |
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| 11:31.57 | pantato | cef: 100 or 125? |
| 11:32.22 | pantato | cef: what if you unplug and plug your mouse back in? |
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| 11:32.29 | cef | pantato: bInterval is 10.. |
| 11:32.32 | pantato | I had to do it when i got it working before in ubuntu 14.04 |
| 11:33.16 | cef | still 10 |
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| 11:33.39 | pantato | maybe i should try arch... |
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| 11:34.12 | cef | you notice even on the arch wiki it says there's a problem in certain kernels that causes this exact behaviour |
| 11:34.38 | pantato | no |
| 11:34.48 | pantato | this is not the behavior that it was describing |
| 11:35.18 | pantato | it was saying that 1 version of the kernel has trouble with 1000hz and seeing it as 500 hz or something. I can't even get to 500 hz |
| 11:36.04 | pantato | "As of May 2015 there is a kernel bug that under certain configurations prevents devices from reaching 1000hz (1ms) polling rate." |
| 11:36.18 | pantato | i've been trying to set mine to 2 (500 hz) this whole time, not 1 |
| 11:36.55 | cef | ahh yup. hrm... |
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| 11:37.58 | pantato | 500 is all i need. |
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| 11:41.32 | pantato | cef: can you humor me and run one of those two programs i linked and tell me what it says? |
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| 11:42.37 | OtakuSenpai | how do i completely remove a package from my system? |
| 11:42.52 | OtakuSenpai | apt-get remove && apt-get purge? |
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| 11:43.37 | pantato | OtakuSenpai: apt-get remove --purge package |
| 11:43.47 | OtakuSenpai | thnx |
| 11:43.58 | pantato | or --purge before remove i forget |
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| 11:46.03 | cef | pantato: at the moment it's like mousepoll doesn't do a thing... including passing it using echo (eg: `echo 2 > /sys/module/usbhid/parameters/mousepoll` ) |
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| 11:49.58 | pantato | cef: youre not supposed to be able to adjust it like that |
| 11:50.25 | pantato | cef: can you look at one of those programs? the number you told me doesnt make any sense |
| 11:50.27 | cef | pantato: I've tried it using modprobe.d, and directly on the modprobe cmdline.. they're all supposed to work. |
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| 11:52.05 | cef | pantato: about to try evhz.. just didn't have any build env on this machine |
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| 11:53.54 | cef | pantato: and my net connection is slow. :/ |
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| 11:54.17 | pantato | cef: i got 1 gbps up and down |
| 11:54.24 | pantato | :p |
| 11:54.35 | cef | pantato: I get 8mbps max down, on a good day. |
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| 11:55.20 | cef | pantato: 125 |
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| 11:56.51 | dgriffi | where's a place to ask questions on the innards of libpng? |
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| 11:57.44 | pantato | cef: so lame. i think ill start a thread on the debian forums about it |
| 11:58.00 | cef | pantato: tried a diff usb port.. still 125.. mousepoll is def set right |
| 11:58.04 | mernilio | Hi all! And thanks for having me! |
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| 11:58.15 | cef | pantato: even tried setting it to 3. |
| 11:58.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | dgriffi, for here on freenode, you can try /msg alis list png |
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| 11:59.09 | cef | pantato: will keep an eye out for it |
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| 12:02.18 | mernilio | If you want to ask somebody about a channel ... i have q about android development .. what channel should i look for ansver in? |
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| 12:03.00 | abrotman | mernilio: /msg alis list android |
| 12:03.10 | pantato | cef: do you know where i can edit my x profile? i have a custom resolution i need to add with xrandr at boot and debian doesnt seem to care about ~/.xprofile |
| 12:03.19 | mernilio | abrotman: good answer! Thanks! |
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| 12:04.48 | teraflops | pantato: it's not debian that cares about ~/.xprofile, it's about you're doing something wrong |
| 12:05.56 | pantato | teraflops: so debian does load off of .xprofile ? |
| 12:06.05 | teraflops | it's not about debian |
| 12:06.11 | pantato | ... |
| 12:06.15 | stoned | #android #android-root #android-dev probably |
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| 12:06.36 | teraflops | pantato: mind elaborating? as in: you do startx or not? yo use a DM? which one? |
| 12:06.40 | stoned | I've never heard of an .xprofile file |
| 12:06.42 | teraflops | you* |
| 12:06.42 | stoned | is this new? |
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| 12:07.04 | pantato | stoned: i used it with ubuntu |
| 12:07.06 | teraflops | stoned: define new, we are talking about debian⦠|
| 12:07.09 | pantato | might just be a unity thing |
| 12:07.16 | pantato | i use lxde |
| 12:07.18 | pantato | now |
| 12:07.20 | stoned | .xprofile is definitely not a debian config file for X |
| 12:07.22 | stoned | afaik. |
| 12:07.29 | teraflops | stoned: ugh |
| 12:07.35 | teraflops | pantato: again, you do startx or not? |
| 12:07.46 | teraflops | you use a DM? which one? |
| 12:07.48 | pantato | teraflops: no. X starts automatically. |
| 12:07.49 | pantato | what's DM |
| 12:07.54 | teraflops | ಠ_ಠ|
| 12:07.57 | stoned | Display Manager (login screen) |
| 12:08.02 | teraflops | !dm |
| 12:08.02 | dpkg | DM means Display Manager, the app that brings up a graphical login screen and starts your login session. <lightdm>, <gdm3>, <xdm>, <kdm>, <wdm>, pdm, login.app and <slim> are all examples of display managers. Ask me about <nodm> if you want to disable the DM. Or Debian Maintainer: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer . For the deb-multimedia repository, ask me about <dmm>. |
| 12:08.33 | abrotman | what is pantato actually trying to do? |
| 12:08.42 | teraflops | pantato: lightdm gdm and sddm source ~/.xprofile for sure |
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| 12:08.46 | pantato | yes, i do have that. I don't know what it's called. How do I find out? |
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| 12:09.42 | pantato | teraflops: apparently I'm using lightdm according ot the contents of /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 12:10.02 | teraflops | pantato: then it sources ~/.xprofile |
| 12:10.06 | pantato | wow and i just lost my custom resolution again just from logging out to look at my DM. So lame. |
| 12:10.12 | pantato | well it's not |
| 12:10.26 | pantato | it's not working. When I use the same exact commands manually it works fin |
| 12:10.31 | pantato | fine* |
| 12:10.34 | teraflops | pantato: so, paste your ~/.xprofile to a same pastebin service because it looks like it may be wrong |
| 12:10.39 | stoned | ok, so there is an .xprofile then? I'm confused! |
| 12:10.46 | stoned | Someone tell me fastly, what is going on? |
| 12:10.52 | pantato | teraflops: it's NOT wrong |
| 12:10.54 | stoned | I have never heard of this .xprofile file. |
| 12:10.59 | teraflops | pantato: ok, good luck |
| 12:11.16 | pantato | teraflops: http://pastebin.com/Q9uLpgBH |
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| 12:11.34 | teraflops | pantato: in not going to click a patebin.con link |
| 12:12.20 | stoned | Oh. That's your bash script to launch when X starts I assume. |
| 12:12.23 | stoned | I looked at your pastebin. |
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| 12:12.33 | stoned | I put everything in debian for X inside my ~/.xsessionrc file |
| 12:12.44 | stoned | same bash script almost, launhing my various X stuffs |
| 12:12.49 | pantato | teraflops: https://paste.ee/p/dcOCi I just executed the .xprofile myself manually and my custom resolution showed up. |
| 12:12.50 | stoned | xrandr what not. |
| 12:12.59 | stoned | why not use the .xsessionrc file? |
| 12:13.13 | stoned | Where the heck/when the heck did this .xprofile come into existence in linux? |
| 12:13.17 | stoned | I ben asleep to long. |
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| 12:13.53 | pantato | teraflops: I can't read your mind as to what pastebin you find acceptable. |
| 12:14.06 | pantato | I just looked that one up and used it because it doesn't have ads |
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| 12:14.25 | teraflops | pantato: pastebin.com is not a sane pastebin in neither of the 14 universes |
| 12:14.27 | stoned | http://sprunge.us/GeeD <- my .xsessionrc |
| 12:14.59 | teraflops | pantato: btw you dont need the #!/bin/sh shebang there |
| 12:15.06 | blackflow | Can anyone tell me, or where can I look that up, if Ubuntu kernel's "SAUCE" patches end up in Debian's kernel (since it's -ckt)? |
| 12:15.42 | pantato | is that why it's not working? |
| 12:15.43 | teraflops | pantato: so those xrandr lines work if you run them from inside your DE? |
| 12:15.53 | pantato | yes. |
| 12:16.00 | pantato | I ran that file directly actually. |
| 12:16.20 | teraflops | pantato: I'm pretty sure lighdm sources ~/.xprofile |
| 12:16.24 | pantato | i just ran ~/.xprofile in my terminal and it showed up |
| 12:16.30 | pantato | i'm pretty sure it does as well. |
| 12:17.29 | themill | can't find anywhere in the code where it does so |
| 12:17.48 | abrotman | have you checked the lightdm man page? |
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| 12:18.30 | teraflops | me? |
| 12:20.33 | teraflops | pantato: I'm not at work so I dont have any debian machines at hand, you can do a trivial test anyway. like touching a file at ~/ from inside ~/.xprofile, or something like that |
| 12:21.07 | teraflops | because unless I'm brainfarting I've tested it many times |
| 12:21.33 | pantato | teraflops: I don't know. My DM doesn't look like the lightdm I know. |
| 12:21.40 | teraflops | :S |
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| 12:23.00 | teraflops | pantato: it's so easy to find out if lighdm is running there |
| 12:23.23 | teraflops | pgrep, ps, journalctl⦠|
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| 12:25.25 | pantato | teraflops: teraflops: pregrep lightdm yield 2 numbers |
| 12:25.32 | teraflops | ok then |
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| 12:26.39 | teraflops | pantato: for the sake of my sanity mind adding a touch ~/TEST at top of your ~/.xprofile and restart lightdm? |
| 12:27.57 | pantato | teraflops: nope. nada. |
| 12:28.02 | pantato | no TEST file |
| 12:28.18 | pantato | maybe this version uses a different file |
| 12:29.03 | teraflops | pantato: weird, I'm indeed brainfarting then |
| 12:29.08 | pantato | maybe something to do with LXDE ? |
| 12:29.20 | pantato | teraflops: it worked with unity / debian |
| 12:29.25 | pantato | i mean unity / ubuntu |
| 12:29.44 | teraflops | well this is debian |
| 12:29.46 | pantato | linux doesn't like CRT monitors anymore so I gotta run these commands |
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| 12:30.13 | themill | s/CRT monitors/CRT monitors that lie about their capabilities/ |
| 12:30.37 | pantato | this one doesn't lie |
| 12:30.38 | teraflops | im about to install a debian VM I think, before going to the psychiatrist |
| 12:30.52 | Walakea | if i understand it correctly, -dev packages are meant to be used to develop programs using that library? for example libopenscenegraph itself is a library to be used by compiled program, while lib...-dev is for development? |
| 12:30.56 | pantato | teraflops: i'm using unstable |
| 12:31.18 | pantato | teraflops: figure out how to adjust my mouse's polling rate while you're at it |
| 12:31.21 | pantato | I care way more about that |
| 12:31.24 | teraflops | pantato: it does not mean nothing unless there's a bug |
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| 12:31.37 | pantato | teraflops: just letting you know |
| 12:31.41 | teraflops | xD |
| 12:32.11 | pantato | man. I need a new job. |
| 12:32.12 | tw | Walakea: that's generally correct. *-dev is usually header files |
| 12:32.31 | pantato | I have this fantasy one day that someone from IRC will give me a job where they train me on the job |
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| 12:34.22 | BluesKaj | pantato, don't think much of IRC is monetized , read: very few jobs |
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| 12:35.59 | sh00p | ok I need a bit of help here... I have this md raid5 array |
| 12:36.10 | sh00p | one disk was SMART'ing out on me, so I replaced it and re-added it |
| 12:36.17 | sh00p | it came to about 30% of resilvering |
| 12:36.44 | sh00p | now it looks like this |
| 12:36.45 | sh00p | https://paste.debian.net/924313/ |
| 12:36.58 | pantato | BluesKaj: lol i'm not talking about working for "IRC" |
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| 12:37.18 | sh00p | this is in dmesg: https://paste.debian.net/924314/ |
| 12:37.23 | sh00p | is my array fucked? |
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| 12:37.53 | BluesKaj | pantato, ok, guess i misunderstood |
| 12:40.49 | BluesKaj | pantato, I've been o n IRC for 20yrs, but nobody has ever offered anyone a job in the public chat, perhaps in a PM |
| 12:41.08 | tw | sh00p: you had a second device failure while rebuilding the array. =( You can see from mdstat that you're down to 1 active disk in your RAID5. |
| 12:41.14 | pantato | BluesKaj: yes I'm sure a private chat is where it would go down if at all |
| 12:41.28 | BluesKaj | yup |
| 12:41.35 | sh00p | yea tw, this is bad... but i hope it's just a hiccup on one of them |
| 12:41.41 | sh00p | can i "force" it back online? |
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| 12:43.46 | tw | sh00p: quick google search reveals http://serverfault.com/a/443801/188579 |
| 12:43.52 | tw | never had to do that, ymmv. |
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| 12:45.04 | SwedeMike | sh00p: go to #linux-raid, we're used to helping people with mdadm raid problems there. |
| 12:45.09 | sh00p | cool |
| 12:45.19 | sh00p | i'm rebooting my system now, be right in there |
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| 12:59.15 | newcoder | Is there any live debian cd? |
| 12:59.38 | petn-randall | !debian live |
| 12:59.38 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org; also see <live login>, <uefi live>. |
| 12:59.43 | petn-randall | newcoder: ^^^ |
| 13:00.50 | pantato | teraflops: any insights? |
| 13:01.12 | Papillon | never go against a sicilian when life is on the line |
| 13:01.15 | teraflops | pantato: not really, I'm installing jessie in a VM |
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| 13:04.01 | julius_ | hi |
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| 13:04.21 | julius_ | why would the sdcard in my laptop reader be mounted ro by gnome? /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/julius/DSC_DISK type vfat (ro,nosuid,nodev |
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| 13:05.46 | anthonyyy | hi |
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| 13:07.08 | Papillon | some sdcards have a read only tab. Maybe the ro tab on your sd card was flipped |
| 13:07.11 | Papillon | hi anthonyyy |
| 13:08.08 | anthonyyy | Very good creatures Mr |
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| 13:21.48 | julius_ | let me see |
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| 13:22.26 | julius_ | Papillon, youre right....never used sdcards before... |
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| 14:11.22 | duser | sorry to ask ubnutu question here. but i can't find answer online atm. my problem is i accidently add ibus-deamon to my .profile. and now the login shell will repeatedly even password is correct. i can't sudo nor change root password. how can i do remove the line appended in the .profile so i can login? |
| 14:11.29 | duser | now i am using guest session. |
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| 14:13.48 | turlutton | Hey there, how can I troubleshot my bluetooth connection? It seems my android phone and laptop are paired, I can send a file from my laptop to my phone, but when I try to send a file to my laptop it fails all the time. I don't know where to start, except that It seems weird that I don't have a pop up menu on my laptop asking if I allow the file to be transfered when I'm sending it via my phone. |
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| 14:14.44 | abrotman | duser: try #ubuntu |
| 14:17.42 | turlutton | from my phone it just says "Transfer forbidden my target device." |
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| 14:34.53 | dionysus69 | hello all |
| 14:35.08 | dionysus69 | I am trying to turn on 5.1 surround for the internal speakers on my laptop |
| 14:35.26 | dionysus69 | but pulseaudio pavucontrol doesnt give me an option to, only on HDMI |
| 14:35.46 | dionysus69 | and laptop sound sucks, windows sound is like 3-4 times louder and better quality |
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| 14:37.12 | jhutchins | dionysus69: See if you can do anything with alsamixer. |
| 14:37.22 | dionysus69 | I couldnt :S |
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| 14:37.26 | dionysus69 | I tried that and then deleted it |
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| 14:46.41 | petn-randall | dionysus69: Does you laptop even have 6 speakers? I'd be surprised. |
| 14:47.09 | dionysus69 | petn-randall: lol no just 2 speakers |
| 14:47.43 | dionysus69 | I am not that familiar with audio world that much, I am just trying to make sound better, as I said it sucks real bad compared to windows |
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| 14:48.57 | petn-randall | dionysus69: I'd just check if the loudness is turned up on alsa and pulseaudio. PA also allows to turn up the volume over 100%. |
| 14:49.07 | dionysus69 | haha ye I know |
| 14:49.21 | dionysus69 | if I put it on 150% sounds distorts |
| 14:49.22 | turlutton | dionysus69: "All 5.1 systems use the same speaker channels and configuration, having a front left and right, a center channel, two surround channels and a subwoofer." |
| 14:49.36 | dionysus69 | there is no sense of depth in sound |
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| 14:50.40 | petn-randall | I'm pretty sure Windows will also just downsample any audio input. Either that or Windows can spawn two more speakers and a subwoofer for you. I guess Debian can't do that. |
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| 14:51.06 | aZz7eCh | Jelly about this time of day? |
| 14:51.37 | dionysus69 | all I know is that windows has better sound,I never meant to direct discussion in 5.1 route, I guess I was off track |
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| 14:52.21 | petn-randall | dionysus69: the alsamixer also has a few more knobs you could try, depending on your soundcard. |
| 14:53.11 | dionysus69 | Audio device: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) |
| 14:53.29 | dionysus69 | lspci |
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| 14:59.06 | aZz7eCh | okay. so. guys. i can ssh into my file server without it asking for a password [client: ssh-keygen -t rsa] then uploaded the pub copy to server and set perms. good stuff. so i figured i'd then make a .sh bash file that runs my sshfs command for me, pointing permission at my .ssh/id_rsa file .... i'm not getting anywhere fast. i am googling but most results are for people tryign to add the sshfs command to fstab. seems wildly different command |
| 14:59.07 | aZz7eCh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:00.09 | aZz7eCh | basically, executing my sh file, still wants me to put in password of the server etc.. |
| 15:00.28 | dionysus69 | I installed pulseaudio-equalizer and cant even find it, |
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| 15:00.47 | aZz7eCh | i have also added trying [ ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa ] but doesn't seem to have helped any |
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| 15:08.23 | aZz7eCh | ohhh... gawd. maybe i need to do the keygen bit as root |
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| 15:11.42 | aZz7eCh | egh... confused. okay dropped sudo from tryign to run sshfs ... and suddenly sshfs is happy to work without sudo ... go figure wth |
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| 15:18.59 | teraflops | pantato: yeah I was mistaken, ligthdm does not source ~/.xprofile, it's GDM actually. Unless I'm actually brainfarting I think I just mistaken the former with the later. sorry for the noise |
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| 15:25.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | aZz⦠|
| 15:25.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah⦠it's the best way to describe a problem such that all detail necessary for the answer is missing |
| 15:26.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | also choosing a nick that you need to squint at twice to figure out how to address it⦠|
| 15:28.43 | BluesKaj | hate those guys who place a __ to prefix their nicks |
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| 15:41.29 | Kiril | hello |
| 15:42.01 | Kiril | could you tell me what's the exact name of gnutls and and its development headers in debian 8.7 |
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| 15:43.39 | testtest | hello? |
| 15:44.02 | teraflops | testtest: yes we can hear you |
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| 15:47.47 | ghormoon | hi, does anyone use vga passthrough on debian with rx 480? |
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| 15:49.22 | testtest | is debian pretty easy to install on an old laptop? are there a lot of hardware issues as freebsd seems to have ? i have an old acer x550c |
| 15:50.07 | Voldenet | afair linux is easier to install on ancient hardware |
| 15:50.11 | Voldenet | than on cutting-edge hardware |
| 15:51.15 | mtn | testtest: always depends on the hardware. use the wiki to research your hardware with debian |
| 15:51.22 | Voldenet | I wouldn't put my life on line, but I think debian would fully work on 15-years old PCs (although some hardware might've gotten deprecated) |
| 15:51.57 | testtest | mtn + voldenet - thanks i'll give it a shot. |
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| 15:55.10 | ghormoon | especially on laptop I'd succest to enable nonfree repos, because of wifi drivers etc. |
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| 16:26.16 | Spec | debian cd installer shell doesn't have fdisk? :-/ |
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| 16:28.27 | Voldenet | Spec: eh, doesn't it? I thought it does, which version exactly |
| 16:30.35 | Voldenet | I'm checking debian-live-8.7.1-amd64-standard.iso now and it does have fdisk |
| 16:30.49 | Voldenet | Spec: are you a root though? |
| 16:31.17 | Voldenet | because it's in /sbin |
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| 16:39.07 | Spec | Voldenet: not live, just busybox/installer |
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| 16:46.27 | dionysus69 | cant launch pulseaudio-equalizer |
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| 16:46.37 | dionysus69 | can anyone tell me which equalizer should I use? |
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| 16:47.01 | dionysus69 | currently I am stuck with analog stereo audio profile |
| 16:47.04 | dionysus69 | and pavucontrol |
| 16:47.09 | dionysus69 | and audio sucks |
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| 16:52.18 | Voldenet | Spec: tell me the iso name, so I know which version :D |
| 16:52.36 | Voldenet | I'll check it, because I think installer should have an fdisk |
| 16:54.08 | Spec | Voldenet: debian-8.7.1-amd64-CD-1.iso |
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| 17:01.35 | Voldenet | hmmm, hmm, it does contain fdisk, but not in the nicest form |
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| 17:02.10 | Voldenet | Spec: if you don't mind, you could try extracting pool/main/u/util-linux/fdisk-udeb_2.25.2-6_amd64.udeb and I guess it should work |
| 17:02.51 | AccessDenied | Hi |
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| 17:06.13 | Voldenet | Spec: cd / ; ar x /cdrom/pool/main/u/util-linux/fdisk-udeb_2.25.2-6_amd64.udeb ; xzcat data.tar.xz | tar x ; //tmp/usr/sbin/fdisk |
| 17:06.18 | Voldenet | voila :P |
| 17:06.21 | Voldenet | extremely hacky |
| 17:06.41 | Voldenet | it's there, just not in the plain sight :P |
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| 17:12.52 | lucas-arg | hello all, im tryin to install debian in a MSI laptop which has intel wifi and optimus technology, obiously uefi... im downloading the cd1 since netinstall wont boot uefi, but i got a couple of problems, my wifi adapter is no recognize, and my touchpad isnt either... so im kinda stuck, please need advice... |
| 17:13.36 | Voldenet | Spec: I accidentally removed cd / at the beginning, but it should work nonetheless, will just install stuff in /usr/sbin/fdisk |
| 17:14.25 | Voldenet | lucas-arg: 'no recognize' meaning what exactly, lspci doesn't recognize it, or dmesg doesn't tell you it's loading modules for it? |
| 17:15.31 | lucas-arg | Voldenet, it does not function |
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| 17:16.29 | BluesKaj | lucas-arg, first of all always install with the ethernet cable connected |
| 17:17.08 | lucas-arg | BluesKaj, i think i wont need to do so since i have the cd1 so just will install base system |
| 17:17.08 | Voldenet | BluesKaj: some hardware has only wifi + you can install debian without any connectivity |
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| 17:17.25 | Voldenet | s/you can/you should be able/ |
| 17:17.29 | lucas-arg | then i can install anything else i guess |
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| 17:18.05 | Voldenet | lucas-arg: check lspci for the output, check lsmod/modinfo/dmesg to verify if drivers are installed |
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| 17:18.59 | BluesKaj | lucas-arg, Voldenet ok have it your way, I'll stay out out of this |
| 17:19.18 | Voldenet | :) |
| 17:19.20 | lucas-arg | thanks guys ill give it a try |
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| 17:21.18 | Voldenet | lucas-arg: there are a couple of guides to see |
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| 17:21.22 | Voldenet | https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad |
| 17:21.28 | Voldenet | https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 17:21.57 | dionysus69 | how do I download this http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/system-wide-pulseaudio-equalizer.html |
| 17:21.57 | Voldenet | it basically tells you what to do step by step, report in case of troubles :) |
| 17:22.03 | dionysus69 | it is ubuntu equalizer |
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| 17:23.02 | Voldenet | it could probably work in debian, but you'd need `apt-get install software-properties-common` first |
| 17:23.10 | Voldenet | for add-apt-repository |
| 17:24.01 | lucas-arg | thanks |
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| 17:27.02 | Spec | Voldenet: nice findings |
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| 17:29.00 | Voldenet | Spec: it's all there, just use `find` command |
| 17:29.01 | Voldenet | :-) |
| 17:29.16 | Spec | Voldenet: i did, but only found references in udev for "fdisk" |
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| 17:29.35 | mernilio | Hi all! Debian-offtopic seems off-line? |
| 17:29.37 | Spec | i guess i didn't check cd or the cd wasn't mounted yet? i don't know why i didn't see the udeb package |
| 17:29.44 | abrotman | mernilio: huh? |
| 17:30.05 | Voldenet | ah, probably, there's a step where installer detects the medium, so it probably mounts there |
| 17:30.19 | mernilio | I have so much non-debian talk you cant imagine! ... i need debian-offtopic! |
| 17:30.26 | mernilio | ;-) |
| 17:30.30 | Voldenet | mernilio: calm down, it is up |
| 17:30.35 | abrotman | mernilio: so you were banned for being a pain in the neck, got it |
| 17:30.36 | mernilio | oki |
| 17:30.52 | dionysus69 | thanks Voldenet! |
| 17:30.53 | Voldenet | maybe you just got banned for annoying mean guys ;) |
| 17:31.28 | mernilio | I do bow my head for the debian guys here for having me back. :-) |
| 17:31.33 | Voldenet | dionysus69: no problem, but I don't remember helping :-) |
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| 17:32.08 | abrotman | mernilio: Do you need help with Debian? |
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| 17:33.13 | mernilio | Yeah, my girlfriend is a avid Redhat user, how can i convert her to use Debian? |
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| 17:33.58 | Voldenet | hmm, that's a problem with debian, maybe try changing your gf and see if that helps |
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| 17:34.19 | Voldenet | or see dmesg for any helpful error messages that lead to that horrible mistake |
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| 17:35.59 | mernilio | It was a stupid reply.. Im sorry abrotman. And for the rest of you i hope to see you again i hope! |
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| 17:38.39 | abrotman | please don't feed the troll |
| 17:38.47 | BluesKaj | Voldenet, nice one there ;/ |
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| 17:39.45 | Voldenet | Eh, sorry, I can't stop being playful if I see funny questions ;) |
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| 17:41.02 | BluesKaj | playful? |
| 17:42.11 | Voldenet | Yeah, joke for a joke seems like a nice exchange, so everyone can /theoretically/ have a laugh |
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| 17:42.47 | sky | hi there, I installed libexif via dpkg and didnt get a resulting pkgconfig file |
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| 17:43.48 | abrotman | sky: you probably want libexif-dev |
| 17:44.30 | sky | hrm could be |
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| 17:48.03 | sky | of course libexif-dev needs jquery! |
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| 18:02.05 | lowin | Am I being too hopeful to anticipate stretch release sometime in april? |
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| 18:04.23 | missmbob | yes |
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| 18:05.40 | Brigo | lowin, i think so |
| 18:05.47 | Toba | all the guides to installing jessie with virt-install involve pointing it at an unsecure http netboot source |
| 18:06.00 | Toba | does anyone have advice on how to set up a secure setup for installing jessie VMs? |
| 18:06.00 | Brigo | lowin, it will be released when release bugs reach 0: https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 18:06.15 | Toba | because I just can't bring myself to do a machine install over unverified media |
| 18:06.40 | Brigo | Toba, can you point me to one of those guides? |
| 18:06.43 | lowin | Brigo, Right now there are 211 bugs, right? |
| 18:06.45 | Toba | sure, let me find the one i was looking at. |
| 18:06.52 | Brigo | lowin, yes |
| 18:07.04 | Brigo | 7 less than yesterday, fyi. |
| 18:07.22 | Toba | https://raymii.org/s/articles/virt-install_introduction_and_copy_paste_distro_install_commands.html#Debian_8 |
| 18:07.25 | Toba | that's one |
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| 18:07.49 | Toba | all plain http |
| 18:07.51 | Toba | :( |
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| 18:08.10 | lowin | brigo, cool.. I'm not in a hurry. Just excited to see some new software versions!! 2 years passed so fast |
| 18:08.21 | Toba | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/207090/install-vm-from-command-line-with-virt-install |
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| 18:08.34 | Brigo | lowin, you are right. |
| 18:08.36 | Toba | it's weird, --location is supposed to work with isos but it seems to not really work. |
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| 18:10.14 | Toba | Brigo: what do you think? |
| 18:10.17 | Toba | no rush... |
| 18:10.22 | Toba | reads the stackexchange over again |
| 18:10.31 | Toba | it's been a couple weeks since I was trying to do this last and I gave up at the time |
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| 18:13.00 | Brigo | Toba, it looks like it's a virt-install issue with debian iso image. |
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| 18:16.41 | Toba | yeah. |
| 18:16.53 | Toba | although I would be fine with a way to securely create my own netboot server. |
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| 18:16.57 | Toba | I guess I will look into that. |
| 18:17.13 | Toba | I am not tied to virt-install or any particular method... |
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| 18:28.24 | ChmEarl | Toba, try using the CD1 ISO instead of netboot |
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| 18:34.25 | Toba | ChmEarl: cd1 iso with --location? |
| 18:34.29 | Toba | ok i will. |
| 18:35.07 | ChmEarl | Toba, I meant `instead of the netboot ISO` |
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| 18:36.51 | Toba | so something like |
| 18:36.51 | Toba | virt-install --virt-type kvm --name test8 --memory 2048 --disk path=/var/lib/libvirt/images/test8-1.qcow2,size=5 --disk path=/var/lib/libvirt/images/test8-2.qcow2,size=2 --location /softwarestorage/CentOS-7-x86_64-Minimal-1511.iso --graphics none --extra-args='console tty0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 serial' |
| 18:36.58 | Toba | but instead, use the debian jessie cd1 iso |
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| 18:38.21 | ChmEarl | Toba, I gather that the Centos example works since the minimal ISO is self-contained, unlike a netboot ISO |
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| 18:38.47 | Toba | I think it is a problem with virt-install expecting things to be at a given hard coded set of paths actually |
| 18:38.59 | Toba | but I will try it and put up a pastebin of debug logs if I get stuck again |
| 18:39.02 | Toba | thanks for your tips |
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| 18:54.10 | sh00p | I have an encrypted / on an md array, am I safe to upgrade/dist-upgrade from wheezy to jessie without problems you think? |
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| 18:54.40 | sh00p | or are there things i need to consider, it's been a while since i set it up so i barely remember |
| 18:54.51 | missmbob | sh00p: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.html |
| 18:55.06 | missmbob | sh00p: there are some gotchas. like apache. read that document |
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| 18:55.37 | missmbob | sh00p: in particular chapter 5 |
| 18:55.55 | sh00p | interesting |
| 18:56.08 | missmbob | sh00p: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html |
| 18:56.18 | sh00p | it mentions whirlpool luks |
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| 18:56.28 | sh00p | i'm certain i set my encryption up through the installer however |
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| 18:58.48 | mernilio | Hi all, what happened with debian-offtopic? |
| 18:59.31 | missmbob | nothing. it's there |
| 18:59.46 | mernilio | sure? |
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| 18:59.55 | missmbob | i just went in to check |
| 19:00.57 | mernilio | No, im redirected to #arguments |
| 19:01.46 | mernilio | I dont even know that that channel is all about? |
| 19:02.19 | missmbob | maybe you need a registered nick |
| 19:03.04 | BluesKaj | mernilio, in the server textbox type /j debian-offtopic |
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| 19:04.34 | mernilio | BlueKaj: opic for ##arguments is âWelcome to ##arguments, where you basically have to have narrow perspectives, rigid (or nonexistent) patterns of thought, an almost utter lack of depth and an IQ that wouldn't rival that of a garden slug. It helps immensely to be truculent, blind, argumentative, tautological, circular and mindlessly repetitive.â |
| 19:04.50 | mernilio | That is what i see |
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| 19:05.38 | BluesKaj | hmm, mernilio maybe you do need to register your nick |
| 19:05.57 | BluesKaj | unless they've banned you |
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| 19:06.27 | mernilio | Banned from an off-topic channel ... :-P |
| 19:06.45 | ddntd | i install i3wm, and want to use zhuyin in that env. however, login to i3wm noticing ibus is running but can't switch to zhuyin. |
| 19:07.04 | teraflops | BluesKaj: yeah he is banned there, I was wondering why I had him in my ignore list |
| 19:07.05 | ddntd | the processes running background as shown at https://paste.debian.net/924211/ |
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| 19:07.28 | missmbob | mernilio: you were naughty |
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| 19:07.54 | ddntd | adding env var also doesn't work as well - https://paste.debian.net/924210/ |
| 19:08.02 | ddntd | where to config to get it work? |
| 19:08.03 | ddntd | thanks |
| 19:08.05 | BluesKaj | teraflops, ok |
| 19:08.13 | mernilio | Who the hell have me on theire ignore list? :-) |
| 19:08.28 | teraflops | I do silly little person |
| 19:09.23 | mernilio | Sure.. go a head! I dont know why tho. |
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| 19:09.32 | no_gravity | Hello! If a program needs a temporary file to work on and accepts the path+name of the temp file it will create, is it possible to pass it a filename that is some sort of virtual file that only exists in memory and never gets written to disk? |
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| 19:11.05 | Toba | ChmEarl: oh I remembered why I wanted to use netinst. These VMs that I'm building don't need a desktop environment installed, so I wanted to have a minimal "server" version |
| 19:11.22 | Toba | ChmEarl: I guess I will try the others just to isolate if that is the problem |
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| 19:12.08 | teraflops | Toba: vmdebootstrap is a thing too |
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| 19:12.24 | teraflops | ,v vmdeboostrap |
| 19:12.25 | judd | No package named 'vmdeboostrap' was found in amd64. |
| 19:12.33 | teraflops | typo |
| 19:12.34 | mernilio | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.44 | teraflops | ,v vmdebootstrap |
| 19:12.45 | judd | Package: vmdebootstrap on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 0.2-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.5-2; jessie-backports: 1.4-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.7-1; sid: 1.7-1 |
| 19:12.54 | Toba | neat |
| 19:12.59 | Toba | I will read up on that. |
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| 19:14.26 | mernilio | Here in the northern hemisphere it's daylight time tonight .. Summer is comming! :-) |
| 19:15.12 | mernilio | And eventually i will compile the kernel |
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| 19:18.09 | mernilio | I do support the gnu/linux community but to be honest .. i feel it's going slow. I left Java when Sun took it over and i still feel they dont give a shit about it. |
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| 19:21.12 | mernilio | I also support our president Donald Trump in his effort to secure our country! A wall towards Mexico can be a good thing to fight narcotics into the US. |
| 19:21.36 | mernilio | An |
| 19:21.38 | missmbob | because you've been banned from #debian-offtopic doesnt mean you can rant in here |
| 19:21.40 | mernilio | :-) |
| 19:22.25 | mernilio | I appology for that rant! |
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| 19:26.18 | mernilio | I do appreciate you having me here! And i thank you! But my initial question was why debian-offtopic was down? |
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| 19:27.47 | mernilio | well, nevermind.. please dont ban me her from debian. I need some kind of support. |
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| 19:28.05 | Toba | god what an ass |
| 19:28.24 | missmbob | just add him to /ignore. i did |
| 19:28.27 | Toba | done |
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| 19:42.45 | dronepilot | hi |
| 19:42.56 | dronepilot | do anyone of you own phantom 4? |
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| 19:43.02 | dronepilot | (the drone) |
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| 19:44.18 | SpeccyMan | nope, i build my own quadcopters |
| 19:44.27 | sypher | How does this relate to Debian? |
| 19:44.47 | missmbob | !chat |
| 19:44.47 | dpkg | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 19:47.27 | prppedro | There will be the time I'll understand why forums.debian.net is so slow... |
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| 19:48.02 | prppedro | For now, it remains only a mistery on my mind... |
| 19:48.43 | TomTomTo1 | it's perfectly fine on my end. |
| 19:52.09 | prppedro | TomTomTo1, may be you're right... It replies faster through my VPS socks proxy than directly through my ISP... |
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| 19:52.19 | prppedro | Strange... |
| 19:52.21 | psychicist__ | hi, I have an HP Zbook Studio G3 and I have installed Debian Testing (stretch) on external USB drives (HDD and SSD) and it seems to work without problems from those (I am using it running off the SSD drive right now) but I am having problems when I install it to a secondary M.2 PCI-E SSD drive as the system hangs after a number of seconds |
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| 19:53.10 | prppedro | psychicist__, I don't know... What dmesg tells? |
| 19:53.20 | teraflops | prppedro: tracepath/traceroute from your vps and from your ISP and then compare |
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| 19:54.18 | teraflops | prppedro: it can be dns resolution is too slow |
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| 19:54.32 | shaker | hi |
| 19:55.16 | psychicist__ | prppedro, I haven't looked at that yet but maybe I should try to install it once again and then read dmesg on that install from the outside. I do however find it strange as this seems to point at a problem with the installation on the internal PCI-E SSD |
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| 19:56.50 | prppedro | teraflops: definitively not a resolution problem... But there's indeed a routing problem from my ISP network. |
| 19:57.16 | sky | I installed libepoxy-dev and its referencing a EGL/eglplatform.h which doesnt exist |
| 19:57.28 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sky about apt-file |
| 19:57.30 | prppedro | psychicist__, well, perhaps... I presume it isn't hotplugable, is it? |
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| 19:58.03 | prppedro | psychicist__, nothing on /dev? It's like it didn't exist, at all? |
| 19:58.21 | sky | abrotman: hows that suppose to help? I am llooking at file list in reo |
| 19:58.23 | sky | err repo |
| 19:59.05 | missmbob | sky: apt-file would tell you that the file is in libegl1-mesa-dev |
| 19:59.26 | abrotman | yeah ,that |
| 19:59.38 | abrotman | is mostly sane .. |
| 19:59.43 | sky | ah |
| 19:59.51 | sky | ok thanks, the box isnt online so I couldnt just grab it |
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| 20:00.18 | abrotman | sky: how are you getting the packages you need? |
| 20:00.42 | psychicist__ | prppedro, I didn't notice anything particular, but it seems to be one of these newer problematic Skylake-based systems. I didn't get any graphics with jessie so I decided to install stretch so close to release. I will check again and report back later |
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| 20:01.28 | sky | abrotman: getting the uris and downling em to diff machine |
| 20:01.36 | sky | im trying to build a customized version of fbi |
| 20:01.38 | psychicist__ | prppedro, it is installed on /dev/nvme0n1, the naming is also a bit weird |
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| 20:02.43 | abrotman | sky: IIRC, packages.debian.org may also have a file search .. we also have a bot that can help here |
| 20:02.59 | sky | I was kinda taken by suprise it wasnt included |
| 20:03.12 | sky | as part of a requirement of libepoxy |
| 20:03.22 | prppedro | psychicist__, to be quite honest, I don't know Skylake very well... I still using an old Thinkpad X201 |
| 20:03.36 | abrotman | sky: there aren't a pile of -dev packages installed, most people don't need them |
| 20:03.57 | prppedro | but I heard of several problems concerning Linux on Skylake... |
| 20:04.08 | sky | abrotman: indeed. and I started with jessie-lite |
| 20:04.15 | abrotman | that's not a thing |
| 20:04.18 | prppedro | May be you should ask in the forum, to get more detailed answers... |
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| 20:08.21 | psychicist__ | prppedro, I would be glad to help out but I am currently very busy with university (that's why I need a stable Linux install) so I can't deal with kernel testing for the next few weeks at least. I will ask on the forums or consult the developers after doing some more research later on, it looks like a kernel problem in combination with the Intel chipset and PCI-E SSD |
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| 20:14.53 | prppedro | psychicist__, well... I'm using Debian Stretch right now. But it's an older, well know system based on Intel Arrandale chip. Given your system is much newer but not, like, whoa, bleeding edge, I'd bet that Fedora might work better for you. |
| 20:15.45 | prppedro | I have been experimenting with it. And for some situations it even looked more stable than Debian. But I couldn't stood the change, because there were several applications to export data from. |
| 20:16.05 | psychicist__ | prppedro, it might, I will check it out in a few days and see if that works any better |
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| 20:16.40 | prppedro | psychicist__, right... And good luck with university. It's drawing my time too... |
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| 20:16.43 | psychicist__ | yesterday I spent almost half my day figuring out how to make things work |
| 20:16.50 | psychicist__ | prppedro, thanks, good luck you too |
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| 20:46.59 | mernilio | Hi all, and forgive me for that former idiocy... |
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| 20:48.32 | mernilio | For the record where is debian most prominent? In the US, Europe or in India? |
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| 20:49.50 | mernilio | Im not sure if it matters? |
| 20:50.46 | mernilio | Exept for the fatties in the US .. they seem to grow fatter every day we see them! :-) |
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| 20:53.33 | prppedro | mernilio: hahahahahahaha... I'd say it's China, wouldn't be their love for Windows XP, IE 6 and Firewalls... |
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| 20:55.10 | mernilio | prppedro: oki :-) |
| 20:56.52 | mernilio | prppedro: the problem with china is they dont pay microsoft the registration. |
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| 20:58.08 | mernilio | The chines man is not trustworthy. Not at all .. he must hang his head in shame. |
| 20:58.09 | prppedro | mernilio, you're thinking European... If 1 out of 90 Chinese pay license fees, Microsoft already got money for 2000 years... |
| 20:58.13 | prppedro | Just kiddin' |
| 20:58.28 | prppedro | But I'm pretty sure Debian is most common in US. |
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| 20:58.58 | mernilio | Yes Debian is foremost in the US! |
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| 21:00.26 | mernilio | prppedro: I know im thinging European .. sorry for that! I know the chines way is another way! |
| 21:00.39 | prppedro | But if I compare operating systems to US fast food networks, I wouldn't be sure were to put Debian. Because it's pretty fat free for an US system. |
| 21:00.48 | prppedro | Ubuntu is BurgerKing, for sure. hahahaha |
| 21:00.49 | missmbob | please stay on topic |
| 21:01.02 | prppedro | missmbob, sorry. |
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| 21:02.37 | mernilio | I have the hanzu sword from a great sword master. |
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| 21:03.22 | mernilio | Will you accept it for a cash transaction of 1 million dollars? |
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| 21:04.18 | mernilio | Or give me the cash right away .. i dont like this japanese fuck things |
| 21:04.39 | JPT | How is this related to debian? |
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| 21:06.01 | AlexLikeRock | abrotman, mernilio say bad words |
| 21:06.27 | mernilio | I like you guys .. och mr. prppedro you were talking to your close friend about a economical transaction. That would be most gracious your houn! It will be an deligt to come to see you in Japan. |
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| 21:07.33 | mernilio | Why do you keep disturbing me when im in bussiness meetings? Shut the fuck up! |
| 21:07.52 | mernilio | ;-) |
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| 21:10.11 | mernilio | I think i've lost him. The problems with chinese contactacts ofer the internet is that you think they all milloanaires.. Most of them are frauds. Learn from the best Buddy! |
| 21:10.30 | missmbob | just /ignore the troll |
| 21:10.41 | raktajino | can we not ban the troll lol |
| 21:11.27 | mernilio | Before you ban me... |
| 21:12.49 | ryouma | bot? |
| 21:12.58 | mernilio | I was on youtube and saw he funeral of Jim Henson. The Creater of the Muppets. Someone said this world could be better with him alive now.. And i agree!. |
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| 21:13.05 | mernilio | Hold on.. |
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| 21:14.57 | celyr | ryouma, just brain damaged I guess |
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| 21:15.34 | raktajino | or, you know, just an asshole |
| 21:15.42 | raktajino | does not require brain damage |
| 21:16.04 | mernilio | Im not a bot. |
| 21:16.12 | JPT | All of you say that |
| 21:16.22 | mernilio | Maybe an asshole :-P |
| 21:16.52 | celyr | raktajino, I will account your opinion but I'm going to stick with the brain damaged version |
| 21:17.07 | dontknow | it is Hattori Hanzo sword. not hanzu |
| 21:17.12 | mernilio | In fact, i wish i could be in debian-offtopic |
| 21:17.19 | raktajino | but if you always attribute assholery to brain damage you will never hold assholes accountable for their assholery |
| 21:17.22 | raktajino | it's a vicious cycle |
| 21:17.25 | missmbob | dont feed and fill the channel with more crap. just /ignore |
| 21:17.52 | raktajino | missmbob: I feel like I've seen people kicked for asking offtopic questions, which is legit. Why can't this individual get a ban? |
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| 21:18.00 | mernilio | The Hanzo sword is superior of all swords! |
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| 21:18.54 | mernilio | And now we must have some suspense music here.. ta da.. :-) |
| 21:20.44 | mernilio | But in mu dojo you must go now. dontknow rakajino .. its time for you to go. Thank you. |
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| 21:28.49 | teraflops | yeah #ban_mernilio |
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| 21:32.30 | dontknow | why not troll when this place is empty |
| 21:33.06 | missmbob | it's offtopic and you'll get added to everyone's /ignore list and eventually banned |
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| 21:41.14 | ryouma | what format is the fingerprint in findimagedupes in? is this a 256-bit quantity that is encoded in ... base64? |
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| 21:44.56 | KNERD | Any means to save the settings for a multiscreen setup without have to redo it all over again on next boot? |
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| 21:47.46 | abff | KNERD what did you have to change to get it working? |
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| 21:49.05 | KNERD | abff: i have to unplug the monitor for a monent, then plug it back in, then rearrange the applications for each window |
| 21:49.30 | KNERD | upon boot, it is duplicates scrreens |
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| 21:52.22 | TomTomTo1 | KNERD: presumably your DE should save it for you if you use its monitor settings utility. i don't use one, so i have a script that lightdm calls on startup referenced in lightdm.conf. |
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| 21:54.28 | m3rg3r | Hello |
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| 21:56.14 | wob_jonas | Hi, guys. I can't mount fat file systems on my debian system, error is from kernel "fat: Unknown symbol setattr_prepare". Internet search suggests that an "Uknown symbol" error usually means I have modules for the wrong version of the kernel, |
| 21:56.35 | wob_jonas | but I'm running debian kernel called Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 and have the modules for that |
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| 21:57.01 | wob_jonas | (which is lucky by the way: I boot the kernel from a fat file system, so it would be nontrivial to upgrade, but I could work that around if I had to.) |
| 21:57.33 | wob_jonas | (This is debian 8.7 linux for x86_64 pc if that matters.) |
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| 21:58.08 | wob_jonas | What am I doing wrong? |
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| 22:00.12 | KNERD | TomTomTo1: it does notm and the ultliyt is very very basic |
| 22:00.19 | KNERD | but I iwll look, thanks |
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| 22:08.11 | f-a | hello, I am getting an error while using youtube-dl http://paste.debian.net/924356/ |
| 22:08.33 | f-a | can I ask one of you on testing/unstable to check if the same error happens there too? |
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| 22:10.30 | TomTomTo1 | f-a: no, works fine with the version in sid. the ones in jessie and jessie-backports are old. you can easily backport yt-dl from sid source or get a recent version from github. |
| 22:10.42 | TomTomTo1 | !tell f-a about ssb |
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| 22:11.03 | f-a | very well TomTomTo1 , I'll snatch the one on github |
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| 22:11.39 | kzimmermann | f-a: I think youtube-dl is one of those packages for which it's better to download the source from github directly. They offer a -U option that allows you to update to the latest version everytime |
| 22:12.09 | |DM| | so, how do I limit a programs cpu consumption ? My problem is one program that spikes to 350% (out of 400%, quadcore) usage every once in a while |
| 22:12.15 | |DM| | and heavily slows down my system |
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| 22:12.24 | |DM| | renicing to 20 doesnt work ;-; |
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