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| 01:13.56 | themill | You keep saying "updating the path" without explaining what you mean. It doesn't sound good. |
| 01:14.08 | dewd | i posted twice exactly what i mean |
| 01:14.16 | dewd | My path is: export PATH="$PATH:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin" |
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| 01:14.33 | dewd | thats the command i used to make it see missing commands |
| 01:14.39 | dewd | such as mount |
| 01:14.58 | themill | it still doesn't sound good |
| 01:15.05 | dewd | why? |
| 01:15.21 | themill | why are you doing it? |
| 01:15.48 | themill | "I have to set my PATH to the default because it's currently crazy" is not sounding good... |
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| 01:16.55 | dewdr | |dangit |
| 01:17.18 | dewd | i probably missed your last msg |
| 01:17.25 | themill | "I have to set my PATH to the default because it's currently crazy" is not sounding good... |
| 01:18.18 | dewd | and why is that |
| 01:18.26 | dewd | i set them to sane values |
| 01:18.33 | themill | why do you need to? |
| 01:18.52 | dewd | because nothing worked in the chroot otherwise? |
| 01:18.59 | dewd | no ls, no mount, nothing |
| 01:19.05 | themill | So it's not sane to begin with? |
| 01:19.28 | themill | How about setting it to something that works *prior* to running debootstrap rather than after debootstrap fails? |
| 01:19.49 | abrotman | Could it be the version of debootstrap? |
| 01:20.06 | themill | it's the one in sid and it wfm |
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| 01:21.15 | dewdr | need to fix the router(s), one sec |
| 01:22.19 | themill | is arch one of these distros that has merged /usr already and decided not to bother with backwards compatibility? |
| 01:23.26 | themill | seems so... #718632 |
| 01:23.27 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/718632 in debootstrap (open): «chroot fails due to incorrect path on Arch Linux»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-08-03; last modified: 2016-09-20. |
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| 01:23.49 | themill | yet another case of arch changing things and then forcing everyone else to clean up their mess |
| 01:24.22 | somiaj | wonder if just giving debootstrap the usrmerge flag would make things just work. |
| 01:24.29 | themill | heh might |
| 01:24.38 | introom | where can I get the debug symbols for https://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-amd64 ? |
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| 01:26.38 | dewd | sory, im working on the routers |
| 01:27.55 | somiaj | dewd: the --merged-usr may help you. themill found bug #718632 due to an issue with arch and usrmerge it seems. |
| 01:28.16 | dewd | that switch? |
| 01:28.31 | dewd | will try, thanks guys |
| 01:28.31 | themill | or setting PATH prior to starting debootstrap |
| 01:28.58 | somiaj | the PATH issue is due to arch and usrmerge, There are various things you can try to get around it, the bug report may have a workaround in there too, I didn't look |
| 01:29.19 | themill | mostly just people looking at it going "wtf have they done now" |
| 01:29.24 | dewd | ok, so its not a switch |
| 01:29.42 | ryouma | usr merge means merging sbin, /usr/sbin, /bin, and /usr/bin into a single dir? just guessing here. |
| 01:29.51 | themill | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.53 | dewd | yes |
| 01:29.55 | somiaj | well debootstrap has the --merged-usr switch, this will install usrmerge in the chroot to maybe more match what your host arch is doing. |
| 01:30.20 | dewd | hmm not sure why its saying it isnt an option |
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| 01:30.40 | themill | not running the version you think you're running? |
| 01:31.04 | somiaj | what is the output of debootstrap --version |
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| 01:34.43 | dewd | ok its going now |
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| 01:34.57 | dewd | i was trying using an old debootstrap when i was desperate |
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| 01:41.26 | dewd | huh, now it ends at a different spot |
| 01:41.36 | dewd | I: Chosen extractor for .deb packages: ar |
| 01:41.36 | dewd | I: Extracting libacl1... |
| 01:41.36 | dewd | \ |
| 01:43.21 | dewd | and when i export path before chroot, i get the same result, mount and ls etc appear, but lots of things missing like apt |
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| 01:45.22 | themill | sounds like it's dying when it first tries to extract a package |
| 01:45.43 | dewd | well other times it extracts lots of them |
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| 01:46.19 | dewd | trying again srtting the path before the debootstrap |
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| 01:47.34 | binaryc | recomended debian ldap (freeipa) client configuration for debian stable ? ( do the nss/pamsss/krb5/etc..manually, freeipa-client from sid [no debport yet], numeezy.fr freeipa-client package ) ... or something else ? |
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| 01:51.26 | dewd | trying using the debootstrap from archs own repos |
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| 02:14.51 | dewd | themill, for some odd reason the arch repo version works, its unpacking the base fine |
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| 02:19.09 | themill | interesting; would be worth comparing the two |
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| 02:19.56 | dewd | yup, will check it out in a bit |
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| 03:02.26 | pantato | cef: weird. I just made a thread here: http://forums.debian.net/posting.php?mode=edit&f=7&t=132317&p=640121 |
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| 04:09.53 | introom | hi. |
| 04:10.06 | introom | how to find the doc for stapfuncs? |
| 04:10.23 | introom | http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/stapfuncs.3stap.html |
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| 04:24.23 | Evidlo | is there much of a difference between normal debian and debian .img builds for a pi? |
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| 04:29.18 | themill | Evidlo: debian doesn't provide any images at all; the pi can't even boot without its own funny kernel |
| 04:29.50 | themill | ,file stapfuncs |
| 04:29.54 | judd | No packages in jessie/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 04:30.03 | themill | introom: ^^ |
| 04:30.58 | themill | ,file *stapfuncs* |
| 04:31.01 | judd | Search for *stapfuncs* in jessie/amd64: systemtap-doc: usr/share/man/man3/stapfuncs.3stap.gz |
| 04:31.11 | themill | or maybe I just forgot how to drive judd |
| 04:31.20 | judd | slaps themill |
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| 04:54.43 | Abhijit | hi |
| 04:54.48 | Abhijit | how to set yes to dpkg install? |
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| 05:06.32 | themill | Abhijit: what are you really trying to do? |
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| 05:08.42 | Abhijit | themill, a bash script to install package. not on debain system hence cant test, but i just wanted to know how can I make dpkg not wait for me to type "yes" to install |
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| 05:09.57 | sky | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.09 | themill | Abhijit: dpkg doesn't ask you to type "yes" to install |
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| 05:10.19 | Abhijit | ok |
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| 05:43.23 | McErroneous | Hi, why is /bin/sh behaving different than /bin/bash , if /bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/bash (having no additional options) it should behave exactly the same as /bin/bash, but it does not., e.g. the buildin "set"-command... |
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| 05:45.20 | McErroneous | If i execute /bin/sh the "set"-command works like it should, but executing /bin/bash the "set"-command does result in a different output... |
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| 05:46.16 | krytarik | McErroneous: See https://wiki.debian.org/Shell |
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| 05:53.42 | McErroneous | please help, just need an accurate answer... |
| 05:56.16 | cef | pantato: I replied to it with my experiences, fwiw. |
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| 05:59.58 | pantato | cef: thanks |
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| 06:16.43 | pantato | cef: I'm considering downgrading my kernel to whatever ubuntu 14.04 uses and seeing if that makes a difference. |
| 06:17.37 | pantato | cef: I found another thread for this issue just now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1625912 |
| 06:18.24 | pantato | cef: doesn't look like there's any insights though :\ |
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| 06:29.23 | pantato | cef: looks like we're using pretty much the same kernel |
| 06:30.53 | pantato | does anyone know a current guide i can follow to downgrade my kernel properly? |
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| 06:36.09 | pantato | cef: i booted into kernel 3.16 ....no dice |
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| 06:45.52 | pantato | cef: I don't think anyone is gonna help us :(((( |
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| 06:49.22 | cef | pantato: well I'm ok now.. I'm just using my old mouse.. but yeah.. seems odd.. |
| 06:49.37 | cef | pantato: did you try setting it to 250Hz? |
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| 06:50.25 | cef | pantato: not useful in the long run but it might give us some more data points. |
| 06:50.56 | cef | pantato: I'm just wondering if it's running at half the set speed, with some sort of max that isn't 1000Hz anymore. |
| 06:52.59 | pantato | cef: you said you have your set at 1, right? |
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| 06:53.07 | pantato | what's the parameter? |
| 06:53.16 | cef | pantato: currently yes.. |
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| 06:53.58 | cef | mousepoll=1, which should be 1000 Hz, yes? |
| 06:54.04 | TurBoss | Hello, i have an old nas where only lenny is supporded ( "binary-arm" oxnas), is posible to have nfs version 4 on it? thanks |
| 06:54.50 | TurBoss | armv5tejl is supporte by newer releases? |
| 06:54.59 | pantato | cef: then it should be running at 1000 hz... |
| 06:55.09 | pantato | i don't think usbhid is doing shit. I think it's just your mouse |
| 06:55.37 | cef | pantato: I know.. and this mouse has definitely done 1000 in the past.. currently it's doing 500. |
| 06:55.50 | cef | pantato: whereas the other mouse is stuck at 125 |
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| 06:56.55 | newcoder | Why is linux named as vmlinuz in /boot ? |
| 06:57.48 | nkuttler | TurBoss: does the kernel support it? |
| 06:57.56 | pantato | cef: This mouse can do 1000 hz in Ubuntu 14.04 and Windows. |
| 06:58.07 | TurBoss | seems to no |
| 06:58.18 | TurBoss | cat /proc/fs/nfsd/versions +2 +3 |
| 06:58.21 | pantato | so irritating because I love everything else about debian so far but this is pretty crucial to my gaming oef |
| 06:58.34 | TurBoss | no chance? |
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| 06:58.39 | pantato | i play counter-strike 1.6 and it's pretty unforgiving. |
| 06:59.00 | nkuttler | TurBoss: um, so do you want a new debian or just a new nfs? |
| 06:59.16 | TurBoss | jsut nfs 4 support |
| 06:59.26 | TurBoss | nkuttler^ |
| 06:59.35 | TurBoss | just* |
| 07:01.09 | cef | pantato: ok.. seems that the debian kernels are compiled with CONFIG_HZ_250=y rather than CONFIG_HZ_1000=y, but I dunno if that will make a difference. |
| 07:03.59 | TurBoss | goes afk for 5 mins |
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| 07:04.26 | pantato | cef: if that were the case wouldn't my hz be 250? |
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| 07:10.56 | TurBoss | is back |
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| 07:13.33 | thereyougo | say I hibernated PC with USB flash drive in it, now what if I unplug that USB flash drive and plug it to another PC and copy some files on it and then plug it back to hibernated PC and turn it on, will there be problems with that flash drive now ? |
| 07:14.10 | thereyougo | by the way is "Stretch" a dog with a spring in the middle of his body ? |
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| 07:16.03 | cef | pantato: I suspect it's not related, but I did see someone ask about it on one of the many threads I found. |
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| 07:33.04 | cef | pantato: interesting. I found one USB port on my machine that when I plug the mouse into it, I get about 500 Hz average, but very rarely, it peaks at 1000Hz for the Latest value |
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| 07:35.52 | cef | pantato: ugh.. ok.. so my mouse has profiles built into the mouse.. only one of them seems to support 1000Hz.. the other 2 are capped at 500Hz. Go figure! |
| 07:36.01 | bernhardr | Can i clone my 120gb server boot ssd disk to an 240 gb ssd disk and boot from the 240gb ssd disk ? |
| 07:36.19 | TurBoss | clonezilla |
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| 07:36.49 | cef | bernhardr: yes. Something like clonezilla or, if you don't care about partition size, you might even be able to use dd. |
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| 07:37.10 | pantato | cef: yeah my mouse is probably the oldest pro gaming mouse on the market. Technically it's not really on the market |
| 07:37.11 | TurBoss | later you can use gparted livecd to resize the partitions |
| 07:37.16 | cef | bernhardr: but you'll want to boot off another disk again. |
| 07:37.37 | pantato | cef: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/9-kinds-Rubber-Paint-Microsoft-IntelliMouse-Optical-1-1-MOD-IO1-1-optical-computer-Intellimouse-usb/32666437685.html?spm=2114.40010508.4.7.CgdGgY |
| 07:37.50 | pantato | cef: i got 1 black and 1 yellow :) |
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| 07:38.03 | cef | bernhardr: as in, you need to boot off a 3rd disk to copy from the old to the new. that could be a USB key with clonezilla on it, etc. |
| 07:38.41 | bernhardr | ok actually i want to resize boot since i cant upgrade the kernel.. cant write.. |
| 07:38.43 | cef | pantato: oh I've had a few of those in my past. |
| 07:39.16 | cef | bernhardr: clone it, then resize. |
| 07:39.17 | bernhardr | but i would like to clone it to another disk first to try there so not to destroy the first disk. |
| 07:39.30 | TurBoss | be carefull bernhardr back up your data first |
| 07:39.40 | cef | bernhardr: you've looked at cleaning up logs, etc? |
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| 07:40.26 | bernhardr | cef yes, one moment ill show you |
| 07:40.31 | cef | bernhardr: yeah.. clone it to the 256gb ssd and play with that. |
| 07:41.24 | bernhardr | http://pastebin.com/7tVUTnZm |
| 07:42.03 | bernhardr | I could also boot clonzilla from a cd / dvd and then clone it right ? |
| 07:42.20 | TurBoss | yes |
| 07:42.25 | TurBoss | but clone disk to disk |
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| 07:42.30 | TurBoss | not partitions |
| 07:42.37 | TurBoss | as you are using lvm |
| 07:42.40 | TurBoss | seems |
| 07:42.56 | TurBoss | be carefull selecting origin destination |
| 07:42.58 | TurBoss | ;) |
| 07:42.59 | bernhardr | Actually would the new 250 gb boot directly when i clone the 120 to it (to see if it works). |
| 07:43.05 | TurBoss | yes |
| 07:43.10 | TurBoss | i do it all the time |
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| 07:43.48 | TurBoss | but before cloning do a backup |
| 07:43.50 | TurBoss | :D |
| 07:43.52 | bernhardr | Yes the cloning part will be easy for me. Disk to Disk.. first ill make a backup of my work on thge 120 gb |
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| 07:45.31 | bernhardr | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:46.31 | TurBoss | do you use lvm? |
| 07:46.41 | bernhardr | yes |
| 07:47.07 | bernhardr | but im not sure if that goes for the whole disk. |
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| 07:48.31 | TurBoss | gparted does work with lvm ? |
| 07:48.34 | TurBoss | not sure |
| 07:48.42 | TurBoss | there is a lvm manager with gui |
| 07:48.50 | TurBoss | can't remember the name |
| 07:48.56 | TurBoss | lvm-manager :D |
| 07:49.07 | bernhardr | within webmin i see lvm |
| 07:49.20 | TurBoss | but you need to do it from a live cd |
| 07:49.21 | TurBoss | no? |
| 07:50.28 | pantato | cef: i love this mouse except for the scroll wheel |
| 07:50.31 | TurBoss | http://www.tutonics.com/2012/11/ubuntu-lvm-guide-part-1.html |
| 07:50.34 | bernhardr | what do you mean with no ? |
| 07:50.34 | TurBoss | take a look |
| 07:50.45 | TurBoss | there is a tool here |
| 07:52.15 | bernhardr | this can be used on debian 7 (my console server) also ? |
| 07:52.29 | TurBoss | sry not sure... |
| 07:54.32 | bernhardr | Ok, any first ill try clonezilla later today to clone the disk to see if it works and boot from it |
| 07:54.53 | TurBoss | oki |
| 07:54.54 | TurBoss | :) |
| 07:54.54 | bernhardr | when that works ill come back to discuss the resizing.. thanks for now.. |
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| 09:11.05 | mazert | hello, do you know how to access #debian-next ? now it ask me an invitation. |
| 09:11.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's on irc.oftc.net |
| 09:13.11 | mazert | CutMeOwnThroat: ah yes, i forgot :p thanks |
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| 09:17.06 | Mindiell | even if I kill my anacron service and cron service, journalctl show me 3-second anacron start :o/ |
| 09:19.23 | Mindiell | and a ps show me nothing :o/ |
| 09:19.26 | rca_connection | one time I had trouble with exim4 and I just RENAMED the binary and made the problem go away |
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| 09:20.16 | rca_connection | might not solve your problem might help you find what it is |
| 09:20.37 | rca_connection | reinstal / remove anacron also |
| 09:22.52 | rca_connection | other things can write to your logs that might look like anacron is doing it |
| 09:22.54 | Mindiell | well, that was quit effective :D |
| 09:23.25 | Mindiell | re-installed it => run every 3 seconds ! |
| 09:23.31 | Mindiell | .... /O/ |
| 09:23.35 | rca_connection | ;o( |
| 09:23.49 | rca_connection | if it was crontab I would do a crontab -e |
| 09:24.09 | Mindiell | got nothing in crontab for root user |
| 09:24.24 | Mindiell | and anacron is launched via cron at 7.30 |
| 09:24.38 | Mindiell | so once by day normally |
| 09:24.39 | Mindiell | :o/ |
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| 09:31.17 | rca_connection | Mindiell: you see a /etc/apm/* maybe stuff for anacron in there? |
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| 09:32.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | Mindiell, show us the actual outputs |
| 09:33.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can use paste.debian.net |
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| 09:37.28 | mender27 | Morning :). |
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| 09:44.05 | Mindiell | rca_connection: I got 2 config files in apm/ |
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| 09:45.05 | Mindiell | one for anacron |
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| 09:46.02 | Mindiell | and apparently it checks if on power or not |
| 09:47.07 | Mindiell | rca_connection: So I should remove this script in order not to have anacron started too much ? |
| 09:47.28 | Mindiell | Apparently, it's starting anacron which will not run if power is not plugged |
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| 09:47.47 | Mindiell | we just try to run anacron every time and let it abort if |
| 09:47.47 | Mindiell | # there's no AC. You'll see a message on the cron syslog facility |
| 09:47.47 | Mindiell | # (typically /var/log/cron) if it does run. |
| 09:47.50 | Mindiell | hmmm |
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| 09:48.08 | Mindiell | woups, sorry |
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| 09:57.00 | Mindiell | CutMeOwnThroat: I'll do that |
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| 09:57.53 | Mindiell | CutMeOwnThroat: http://paste.debian.net/924395/ |
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| 09:58.03 | unborn | does anyone know when apt will completely replace apt-get ? |
| 09:58.04 | rca_connection | Mindiell: my intent ain't to break your system |
| 09:58.14 | Mindiell | rca_connection: sure ;o) |
| 09:58.36 | Mindiell | for now : moving the /etc/apm/anacron file somewhere else did not change anything |
| 09:58.43 | rca_connection | I don't know what your scripts are doin, but I tryt to give ya a few ideas I would be on about |
| 09:58.48 | Mindiell | and : uninstalling anacron stops the "problem" |
| 09:59.00 | Mindiell | rca_connection: and any help is welcome ;o) |
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| 09:59.04 | rca_connection | so something is loading up anacron |
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| 09:59.14 | rca_connection | has a task it wants to do... |
| 10:00.14 | rca_connection | audio can load things up for constant tasks, I note the sound volume causes network traffic on 244.0.0.56 |
| 10:00.27 | rca_connection | weird things I would be looking for |
| 10:00.45 | rca_connection | something that wants time constantly pounded |
| 10:00.52 | rca_connection | check cpu |
| 10:01.13 | rca_connection | for binaries running |
| 10:01.40 | rca_connection | if you got no dependencies remove anacron |
| 10:01.55 | rca_connection | I got a lil nginx don't need it at all |
| 10:02.18 | Mindiell | stopped all my supervisor tasks and apache |
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| 10:02.54 | Mindiell | nginx stopped too ;o) |
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| 10:04.38 | Mindiell | mysql stopped |
| 10:06.02 | rca_connection | I don't know if you have pastbin command line but cat syslog | grep 'anacron' | pastebin puts my log on pastebin |
| 10:06.45 | rca_connection | and you can change to 'cron' for both cron and anacron entries |
| 10:06.56 | rca_connection | maybe help ya figure this out |
| 10:07.09 | Mindiell | syslog ? |
| 10:07.14 | rca_connection | messages |
| 10:07.34 | rca_connection | kern.log |
| 10:07.39 | Mindiell | ah |
| 10:07.43 | rca_connection | I don't know which log you got |
| 10:07.51 | Mindiell | I tried syslog but got the same as in the pastebin |
| 10:08.07 | Mindiell | nothing in kern.log |
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| 10:08.48 | rca_connection | systemd I see |
| 10:09.08 | rca_connection | I didn't see you had a pastebin up (my scrollback) |
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| 10:09.20 | rca_connection | I wonder what |
| 10:09.24 | rca_connection | 'is in your systemd |
| 10:09.28 | Mindiell | http://paste.debian.net/924395/ |
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| 10:13.09 | BluesKaj | 'Morning folks |
| 10:13.22 | mender27 | Morning there, BluesKaj! Remember me? |
| 10:13.54 | BluesKaj | yes, hi mender27 |
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| 10:15.14 | mender27 | BluesKaj, did some distro-hopping, but I'm back on Debian with ZFS. Almost fried one hard drive and I have a new array now. |
| 10:16.20 | Mindiell | ok, renaming the /etc/init.d/anacron stop it too :o) |
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| 10:16.27 | dante_ | is there a way to create a bootable usb with windows 7? |
| 10:16.40 | mender27 | Not really, no. |
| 10:17.01 | BluesKaj | mender27,ok, good, experimenting can be fun but one has find one's center |
| 10:17.14 | Mindiell | ok, remove anacron |
| 10:17.20 | Mindiell | I'll stop to serach for now |
| 10:17.28 | mender27 | BluesKaj, yes, I constantly get annoyed with myself when I distro-hop. I break things that work :/. |
| 10:17.36 | rca_connection | Mindiell: I think your getting real close |
| 10:17.45 | rca_connection | it's something in one of thos text files |
| 10:18.10 | dgriffi | dante_: I suppose you could make a bootable thumb drive on windows 7 using a windows version of dd and a debian install iso |
| 10:18.16 | rca_connection | maybe search through the files for the number 3 (just grepping through it all) |
| 10:18.24 | rca_connection | I don't know |
| 10:18.40 | Hyp3ri0n | dante_: yes |
| 10:18.41 | BluesKaj | mender27, I keep a stable distro as a fallback on a separate partition from my testing ' |
| 10:18.51 | Hyp3ri0n | !win32diskimager |
| 10:18.52 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
| 10:19.12 | rca_connection | Mindiell: if you got a live version you can compare the directories and see what's been added |
| 10:19.51 | rca_connection | I wish you good luck |
| 10:20.08 | Hyp3ri0n | dante_: use win32diskimager to do tht for you |
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| 10:20.38 | mender27 | BluesKaj, one planning to have one too, but then the bigger 2TB drive died. |
| 10:21.02 | dante_ | i trying to create it from a debian machine |
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| 10:21.20 | mender27 | dante_, unless you have a legal .iso of Windows 7, which you cannot download nowadays. |
| 10:21.23 | Hyp3ri0n | dante_: what steps did you follow |
| 10:21.42 | dante_ | i try with dd, winusb, unetbootin |
| 10:21.42 | rca_connection | Mindiell: one more IDEA.. in synaptic (if you have a head installed) you can go to properties of anacron and see where all the files got installed to |
| 10:21.47 | BluesKaj | large hdds seem to have a short life span |
| 10:21.53 | BluesKaj | msantana,^ |
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| 10:22.10 | BluesKaj | oops mender27^ |
| 10:22.11 | Hyp3ri0n | dante_: what OS are you targetting? |
| 10:22.53 | Mindiell | rca_connection: ths for everything ;o) |
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| 10:23.11 | dante_ | okay, I'm using debian 8 and I'm trying to create a bootable windows 7 usb |
| 10:23.11 | Mindiell | it's a server so no ux |
| 10:23.25 | Hyp3ri0n | dante_: idk then |
| 10:23.43 | Hyp3ri0n | dante_: do you own tht windows iso? |
| 10:23.44 | rca_connection | Mindiell: a vm on another workstation might not be a bad idea to compare files |
| 10:23.57 | dante_ | yes |
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| 10:24.20 | Hyp3ri0n | then use dd to do it on debian,dont use unetbootin |
| 10:24.33 | dante_ | i have try with dd |
| 10:24.44 | Hyp3ri0n | dd bs=4M if=/foo of=/bar |
| 10:25.03 | Hyp3ri0n | did you try tht? |
| 10:25.03 | dante_ | okay, I will try again |
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| 10:25.07 | dante_ | yes |
| 10:25.13 | BluesKaj | dante_, http://www.fit-pc.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_make_Windows_7_bootable_install_USB_stick |
| 10:25.16 | Hyp3ri0n | su? |
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| 10:25.34 | Wally | Does anyone have a way to tell linux to ignore MacOS ._ files |
| 10:26.10 | n4dir | ignore them when doing what? |
| 10:26.30 | Wally | Well it's more for emulators that see the ._file and then start going "hey this doesn't work" |
| 10:26.31 | n4dir | extglob comes to mind, this way or the other |
| 10:26.39 | dante_ | BluesKaj: I have no machine with windows installed on it |
| 10:26.52 | dante_ | I need to make it from debian machine |
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| 10:28.27 | Hyp3ri0n | dante_: use dd |
| 10:28.34 | BluesKaj | dante_, this is debian support, not windows, ..google is your friend , use it. |
| 10:28.46 | TimurTheLame | dante_, you could follow this guide https://thornelabs.net/2013/06/10/create-a-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive-in-linux.html |
| 10:28.51 | rca_connection | windows is like the enemy now lol |
| 10:29.03 | BluesKaj | Hyp3ri0n, dd won't make it bootable afaik |
| 10:29.20 | Wally | dante_ what are you trying to achieve :| |
| 10:29.21 | Hyp3ri0n | BluesKaj: may i ask why? |
| 10:29.40 | TimurTheLame | dante_, the method works, but you need an application that you won't find in debian's repos and it's slightly complicated depending on how much linux you know |
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| 10:30.12 | BluesKaj | Hyp3ri0n, not sure, i just know it wouldn't boot for me |
| 10:30.32 | Hyp3ri0n | BluesKaj: better know the answer before saying tht |
| 10:30.39 | dante_ | TimurTheLame: Thanks, I have forgot about tail |
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| 10:31.10 | n4dir | Wally: what emulators, how do they "see" something? |
| 10:31.16 | dante_ | BluesKaj: it was a question for debian support! |
| 10:31.28 | dante_ | I'm trying to do something using Debian |
| 10:31.31 | BluesKaj | Hyp3ri0n, same goes for you, don't recommend unless you know it works |
| 10:31.59 | BluesKaj | dante debian doen't support windows |
| 10:32.10 | Hyp3ri0n | BluesKaj: how can you tell tht dd wont work? if you dont know it doesnt work? |
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| 10:32.53 | BluesKaj | Hyp3ri0n, ok then try it , youi'll find out for yourself |
| 10:33.17 | Hyp3ri0n | im not the one whos installing windows |
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| 10:34.05 | BluesKaj | oh wow, good answer |
| 10:34.22 | dante_ | BluesKaj: I have no more words for you, thanks anyway, if you don't know to answer just stay out of discution |
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| 10:36.24 | overdrive | hi ppl, one stupid question; I was checking some versions of the software I have currently in my debian and they look quite old, e.g. Ansible 1.7.3. I am using jessie 8.7 testing. Is that normal? I was expecting to get the last or one of the latest stable releases from for example Ansible (closer to 2.2.1.0) |
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| 10:36.49 | overdrive | I did of course apt-get update and upgrade. But for sure, I have something wrong/missing. |
| 10:36.55 | bazhang | ,v ansible |
| 10:36.56 | judd | Package: ansible on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 1.7.2+dfsg-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.7.2+dfsg-2; jessie-backports: 2.2.1.0-1~bpo8+1; sid: 2.2.1.0-1; stretch: 2.2.1.0-1 |
| 10:37.46 | bazhang | overdrive, jessie-backports |
| 10:38.53 | TimurTheLame | bazhang, correct me if I'm wrong, but stretch/testing shows that he should have 2.2.1 |
| 10:39.31 | bazhang | TimurTheLame, I thought he said he was on jessie |
| 10:39.43 | petn-randall | overdrive: Stable means that that software will only get security fixes and other major fixes, not feature updates. That ensures that the amount of bugs in stable can only get lower. If you need more current software, you can always grab a newer version from backports. |
| 10:40.13 | Hyp3ri0n | Jessie carries old but stable versions of software,while Sid carries newer but unstable versions |
| 10:40.46 | Hyp3ri0n | sup bazhang |
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| 10:42.03 | mzs114 | overdrive: you can also use pip to install a specific version of Ansible, I did this on Debian |
| 10:42.20 | mender27 | overdrive, are you using Jessie Stable or Jessie Testing? |
| 10:43.25 | petn-randall | mender27: There is no "jessie testing". |
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| 10:50.42 | mender27 | petn-randall, there is if one didn't do "dist-upgrade" after a Testing freeze, no? |
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| 10:51.34 | Hyp3ri0n | update sources.list > apt-get update && apt-get upgrade > wallah |
| 10:53.01 | TomTomTosch | that's not right. besides you read the release notes first. they describe the whole process and potential issue. |
| 10:53.20 | petn-randall | mender27: They wouldn't be using Debian 8._7_ then. |
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| 10:54.08 | Hyp3ri0n | TomTomTosch: yup |
| 10:54.53 | BluesKaj | running debian stretch here and ansible version is 2.2.1.0-1 |
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| 10:55.49 | Hyp3ri0n | also you dont recommend a beginner to run sid/stretch . . . |
| 10:56.37 | n4dir | even before using backports one will first of all want to understand the way debian works. The question "why are versions old" shows that one doesn't know it |
| 10:57.17 | BluesKaj | what beginner? |
| 10:58.04 | BluesKaj | what recommendation? |
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| 10:58.26 | bazhang | this turned into a sort of spanish inquisiton |
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| 10:59.06 | BluesKaj | heh |
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| 11:01.11 | petn-randall | n4dir: That is a completely fine question to ask, and mender27 got an answer to that. You're maybe mixing up backports with testing/sid? |
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| 11:02.09 | n4dir | Of course the question is fine. But it shows that one doesn't understand the main way debian works yet. |
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| 11:02.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | it works by having old software ^^ |
| 11:02.32 | petn-randall | n4dir: So what? Everyone started out like that at some point. |
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| 11:02.48 | Pepe | Hello guys |
| 11:02.55 | bazhang | hi |
| 11:02.56 | TomTomTosch | hoi |
| 11:02.59 | Pepe | What's wrong with Debian kernel with 4.9.0 ? |
| 11:03.11 | bazhang | since when |
| 11:03.15 | n4dir | Yes. Of course. All i say it that the first thing which should be answered is not how to get newer versions (via backports), but why is debian that way |
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| 11:04.02 | TomTomTosch | but petn-randall did that. |
| 11:04.02 | petn-randall | Pepe: You tell us. |
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| 11:04.21 | n4dir | Or you say: i don't really care to understand debian, all i want it to work somehow, by black magic. Probably an approach too |
| 11:04.44 | n4dir | but then: there are probably better distros for such ... |
| 11:04.57 | Pepe | n4dir are you complaining to me or what? |
| 11:05.08 | n4dir | no |
| 11:05.27 | BluesKaj | Pepe, why do you blame the kernel, tell us your issue |
| 11:05.32 | n4dir | and i don't complain at all. I only make a sidenote |
| 11:05.33 | Pepe | I will tell you. |
| 11:05.38 | Pepe | Writingit |
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| 11:07.35 | petn-randall | n4dir: People use computers without completely understanding it. Just like people use cars, washing machines, smart phones, etc. Anyway, this is getting a bit offtopic. |
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| 11:08.18 | Pepe | bazhang Since kernel 4.9.0 was released on Debian? First at all dvb-c tuner has same issues like my headset. It disappears w/o any reason then it connects, but then it overflow system. In this case it was driver fault, because when you unplug this device on other devices (different kernel, different devices) it will flood it. |
| 11:08.20 | Pepe | But on these devices it didn't disconnect itself - https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=194783 It was just doing on Debian 4.9.0! On default kernel which is shipped I think 3.16/3.18 it was working w/o any issues except flooding, when I unplugged it by myself. |
| 11:08.22 | Pepe | Now I connected headset (which was working on Windows and also on previous kernel) and I have this issue: http://pastebin.com/xDDSnqfZ (and I didnt notice that, but after few hours I dont have sound) |
| 11:08.45 | n4dir | petn-randall: to understand how debian releases is hardly a tough topic ... |
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| 11:09.06 | plasmoduck | l |
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| 11:12.22 | wewlad | hello, I'm on debian stable, packages seem too outdated, what should I switch to get more recent versions of packages? |
| 11:12.31 | Pepe | wewlad backports.. |
| 11:12.45 | wewlad | Pepe: they are added. |
| 11:12.52 | wewlad | still mpv is dated 2014 |
| 11:12.56 | mender27 | petn-randall, you're completely right and I stand corrected :). |
| 11:13.10 | wewlad | can't open the damn youtube stream using mpv |
| 11:13.10 | TimurTheLame | wewlad, testing or sid |
| 11:13.25 | Pepe | apt-get install mpv -t jessie-backports ? did you try this? |
| 11:13.41 | mender27 | petn-randall, this shows I definitely need to read the Debian Administrator Guide properly :). |
| 11:13.42 | Pepe | when you will use apt-get install mpv it will install packages in "normal" branch |
| 11:14.01 | ionim | hi people, how to simple make a debian package?, i have downloaded and installed make install in $DESTDIR clisp, clisp isn't in 8.7, I'm in the tree.... any as makepkg ../clisp-2.49.deb ? |
| 11:14.36 | BluesKaj | Pepe, you haven't told us about your audio chip/driver/ pulseaudio settings if any , you just blame the kernel |
| 11:14.42 | TimurTheLame | wewlad, talking about a live youtube stream or just a regular video? |
| 11:14.58 | wewlad | live stream |
| 11:15.01 | wewlad | navalny |
| 11:15.24 | Pepe | BluesKaj oh what I should blame? lol. usb 1-2.2: USB disconnect and connect. It also happens with my dvb-c driver. And you're telling me that's not kernel :D |
| 11:15.28 | TomTomTosch | ionim: checkinstall works as a wraper for make install, keeps track of the files and builds a package for you. |
| 11:15.43 | TomTomTosch | * wrapper |
| 11:15.46 | TimurTheLame | wewlad, link? Also, lawl |
| 11:16.08 | Pepe | BluesKaj I told you that it's working on old kernel. What's changed? Kernel and their modules/drivers. So yes! It's kernel! |
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| 11:16.33 | TimurTheLame | wewlad, gonna try to see if sid mpv can play it (I'm running sid) |
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| 11:16.37 | BluesKaj | ok Pepe , then I'll leave it to you then, good kuck |
| 11:16.49 | BluesKaj | luck even |
| 11:17.27 | wewlad | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2FhmpoHMiQ |
| 11:17.33 | ionim | Thanks TomTomTosh, no more simple way? |
| 11:17.36 | Pepe | I see you're don't have enough knowledge to help me. Nice to meet you then. I don't expect support, but you tried help me, but you can't. |
| 11:17.41 | mender27 | And I'm just happy to see Debian being such a great Linux-based operating system with everyone contributing to it :). |
| 11:17.45 | bazhang | wewlad, debian related? |
| 11:17.53 | wewlad | mpv ytdl://I2FhmpoHMiQ works fine on freebsd, but not on debian |
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| 11:18.06 | TimurTheLame | wewlad, yep, it's working for me on sid |
| 11:18.25 | bazhang | wewlad, mpv works great |
| 11:18.32 | Pepe | They're other people like petn-randall and bazhang, which replied. I appreciate any help. ;-) |
| 11:18.37 | TomTomTosch | ionim: it really is as simple as could be. you run checkinstall instead of make install and it guides you through the process. https://wiki.debian.org/CheckInstall |
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| 11:19.35 | bazhang | you can even use mplayer with a mpv backend |
| 11:19.45 | bazhang | is smplayer |
| 11:19.48 | bazhang | ie |
| 11:19.57 | ionim | Thanks! TomTomTosch ok... |
| 11:20.14 | wewlad | how to update debian itself? |
| 11:20.52 | ionim | apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 11:20.52 | TimurTheLame | wewlad, switch to testing or sid? |
| 11:20.56 | bazhang | wewlad, like unattended upgrades? |
| 11:21.28 | wewlad | how to get know which version of debian I am using? |
| 11:21.42 | wewlad | I suspect it is not latest stable release |
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| 11:23.12 | ionim | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 11:23.40 | BluesKaj | Pepe, I admit I don't kow much about dvb-c tuner etc , but i still think your audio settings in alsa and pulseaudio may have changed with new kernel, that's worth checking |
| 11:23.57 | ionim | wewlad desintoxicate you are in the other side |
| 11:24.36 | wewlad | it is 8.7 |
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| 11:25.16 | tinyhippo | hi - I've installed debian 8 from a netinstall, but I'm having trouble getting wifi working - how do I find which wifi driver I need? |
| 11:26.11 | ionim | dmesg lspci lsmod |
| 11:26.21 | TomTomTosch | tinyhippo: lspci -nnk | grep -i network then you can use the pci id to check online or in here. |
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| 11:27.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | also, firmware |
| 11:27.03 | Pepe | tinyhippo I would rather use lsusb / lsusb -t and check it with wikidevi or you can ask Google to help you :-) |
| 11:27.22 | abrotman | not likely usb |
| 11:27.31 | tinyhippo | TomTomTosch: lspci -nnk | grep -i network returns nothing... |
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| 11:28.01 | tinyhippo | Pepe: lsusb only returns USB bus ports |
| 11:28.10 | abrotman | tinyhippo: Do you have any network at all at the moment? |
| 11:28.17 | abrotman | (wired ethernet for example) |
| 11:28.21 | Pepe | tinyhippo yes, but you didnt even said if you have pcie wifi or usb wifi. ;-) |
| 11:28.21 | tinyhippo | yes, wired ethernet |
| 11:28.34 | tinyhippo | Pepe: I have no idea |
| 11:28.37 | abrotman | tinyhippo: run 'update-pciids' .. try again with lspci |
| 11:28.37 | BluesKaj | tinyhippo, just run lspci and lookf or mobile controller |
| 11:29.17 | tinyhippo | abrotman: nothing still |
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| 11:29.30 | abrotman | tinyhippo: can you pastebin your entire "lspci -nn |
| 11:29.32 | abrotman | " |
| 11:29.38 | abrotman | paste.debian.net please |
| 11:29.58 | laughingtiger | hi everytime I installed fglrx-driver, my laptop boots into black screen, the system was running I can type command blindly, just black screen no tty either. pls help me thank you. |
| 11:30.22 | tinyhippo | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/924402/ |
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| 11:31.09 | laughingtiger | system is debian jessie, asus with hd6370m. thank you thank you. |
| 11:31.36 | abrotman | tinyhippo: is there a wifi switch on your laptop? |
| 11:31.48 | laughingtiger | I don't wanna go back to windows |
| 11:32.19 | abrotman | tinyhippo: either hardware, or a Fn key switch |
| 11:32.27 | tinyhippo | abrotman: there's a function key for it, but that doesn't seem to do anything |
| 11:33.03 | tinyhippo | if it were affected by a switch, I would have at least expected it, in network manager, to say "Hardware Disabled" or some such |
| 11:33.50 | laughingtiger | I even installed kubuntu which was a horrible horrible expierence I don't understand so much effort and work they put into just to make it stupider and uglier fatter thank windows. |
| 11:33.51 | abrotman | There isn't a wifi adapter showing in your lspci at all. you can try lsusb. otherwise, there's a switch or rfkill toggle |
| 11:34.03 | laughingtiger | than |
| 11:34.24 | abrotman | tinyhippo: there's an update-usbids also that might trigger it to show your adapter .. but I'm more leaning toward the switch or rfkill |
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| 11:34.49 | tinyhippo | abrotman: rfkill list shows nothing |
| 11:35.45 | tinyhippo | this is the outpout of lsusb (following an update-usbids) http://paste.debian.net/924404/ |
| 11:35.48 | laughingtiger | so I guess this machine is hopeless then. |
| 11:36.15 | abrotman | tinyhippo: anything in your dmesg relating to your wireless? |
| 11:37.16 | laughingtiger | thank you so much for your help. |
| 11:37.21 | tinyhippo | abrotman: one thing that looks like a realtek driver - r8169 0000:0e:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware rtl-nic/rtl8105e-1.fw |
| 11:37.53 | abrotman | that's probably your wired card |
| 11:38.16 | BluesKaj | tinyhippo, think it's this: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge [8086:2448] (rev 93 |
| 11:38.59 | tinyhippo | so I'd need iwlwifi for that to work? |
| 11:39.25 | abrotman | yeah, but that doesn't really seem like it |
| 11:39.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, not really |
| 11:40.02 | TomTomTosch | it's a bus bridge. says it right there. ^^ |
| 11:40.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | ,pciid 8086:2448 |
| 11:40.06 | judd | [8086:2448] is '82801 Mobile PCI Bridge' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:2448 |
| 11:40.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | the fascinating bit is the snd* module judd lists |
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| 11:41.07 | BluesKaj | hmm snd is audio |
| 11:42.21 | BluesKaj | tinyhippo, but I also found this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/70359 |
| 11:42.21 | abrotman | tinyhippo: can you paste all of your dmesg? |
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| 11:42.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | not here, though, use paste.debian.net |
| 11:43.02 | abrotman | that's from 2009, and likely not relevant anymore |
| 11:43.20 | tinyhippo | http://paste.debian.net/924406/ |
| 11:43.27 | tinyhippo | ^ dmesg output |
| 11:43.59 | ionim | I don't remember the url's but exist some webs with distro guides for laptops, very very good resource. linuxonlaptop... |
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| 11:44.23 | BluesKaj | abrotman, that just means he's a launchpad member since 2009 , not the bug |
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| 11:45.45 | BluesKaj | but who knows how old that bug is |
| 11:46.02 | abrotman | BluesKaj: the post is from 2009 |
| 11:46.13 | abrotman | tinyhippo: can you do the Fn toggle, and see if it outputs anything to dmesg |
| 11:46.36 | abrotman | ionim: linux-laptop.net |
| 11:46.38 | BluesKaj | yeaj abrotman mt ol eyes finally saw that |
| 11:46.45 | BluesKaj | my old |
| 11:46.48 | tinyhippo | no output, abrotman |
| 11:47.16 | abrotman | tinyhippo: and this worked in another distro, or windows? |
| 11:48.00 | tinyhippo | abrotman: windows 7, 8 and 10 it was fine, this is the first time I've installed debian on this machine |
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| 11:48.32 | abrotman | I wonder if it has to do with CRDA |
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| 11:48.56 | themill | CutMeOwnThroat: pci-id wildcard matching. |
| 11:49.10 | abrotman | tinyhippo: Do you have the crda and wireless-regdb installed? |
| 11:49.16 | tinyhippo | nope |
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| 11:50.12 | overdrive | bazhang, petn-randall, mzs114, mender27: Thanks, I am using jessie testing, I added the backports now... however when I am doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade I do not get any new packages |
| 11:52.25 | n4dir | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.43 | ionim | thanks people, a pleasure (bye) |
| 11:54.02 | n4dir | !debian-backports |
| 11:54.02 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 11:54.04 | abrotman | tinyhippo: it seems to imply it's for your driver, but it's odd it's not showing in lspci at all |
| 11:54.46 | n4dir | overdrive: look at the instructions, how to install packages from backports (apt-get install -t jessie-backports pkgname) |
| 11:55.23 | abrotman | overdrive: you have to explicitly install those packages, they're not a general upgrade |
| 11:55.50 | overdrive | abrotman: oh, my idea was to use for all of them, now I understand |
| 11:55.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | themill, sounds wild⦠are you saying some are longer than otherS? |
| 11:56.07 | overdrive | so I must be explicit for each of them. |
| 11:56.19 | abrotman | overdrive: I don't think you'd want all of them, just a hunch |
| 11:56.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | overdrive, there still is no jessie testing |
| 11:57.30 | BluesKaj | tinyhippo, is this an older laptop? |
| 11:57.44 | overdrive | abrotman: ok thanks a lot :-) |
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| 11:58.18 | themill | CutMeOwnThroat: snd-hda-intel claims to support every device PCI intel makes |
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| 11:58.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | overdrive, backports is meant to provide newer versions for stable for the few packages you really want newer versions of⦠|
| 11:58.35 | themill | I need to come up with a way of blacklisting things |
| 11:59.08 | overdrive | CutMeOwnThroat: aha, good... thanks for clarification. Now everything makes sense :) |
| 11:59.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | themill, that's pretty cool⦠so this is the only kernel module you ever need for intel stuff⢠|
| 11:59.21 | abrotman | tinyhippo: did oyu install those packages and reboot/try again? |
| 11:59.45 | BluesKaj | themill, yes snd-hda-intel is ubiquitous |
| 12:00.34 | overdrive | thanks a lot ppl for help! |
| 12:00.45 | tinyhippo | BluesKaj: yes it is, probably 2010ish |
| 12:01.10 | tinyhippo | abrotman: I was wrong sorry, those packages were installed |
| 12:01.37 | BluesKaj | themill, and it woks perfectly with alsa, no need for pulsaudio's extra layer of processing |
| 12:03.19 | themill | BluesKaj: you're having a different conversation to everyone else |
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| 12:04.03 | abrotman | heh |
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| 12:05.06 | BluesKaj | themill, just trying to be informative |
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| 12:06.57 | BluesKaj | wow, this place full of crappy "attitude today |
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| 12:07.51 | themill | BluesKaj: you're trying to explain to me code that I wrote a decade ago. It's not going to go well. |
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| 12:09.14 | abrotman | *micdrop* |
| 12:09.38 | abrotman | tinyhippo: what model laptop is this? |
| 12:09.46 | BluesKaj | tinyhippo, what's that intel iw -something wifi driver that's in use you mentioned above |
| 12:09.56 | tinyhippo | abrotman: toshiba satellite c660 |
| 12:11.14 | BluesKaj | themill, well bully for you, now i know where you get the pull rank attitude, ..pat yourself on the shoulder if you must |
| 12:11.33 | abrotman | BluesKaj: please let it go, move on |
| 12:11.43 | themill | actually, the utterly irrelevant nonsense about pulse was more annoying |
| 12:11.50 | BluesKaj | abrotman, i jusr did |
| 12:12.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | think we're all set |
| 12:12.51 | abrotman | tinyhippo: could you install firmware-realtek .. from what I can tell, it should be a realtek driver |
| 12:13.11 | abrotman | BluesKaj: Thank goodness, now we can all live in peace. |
| 12:13.34 | BluesKaj | abrotman, let's hope so |
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| 12:17.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | !sunday |
| 12:17.31 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 12:17.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | "done" |
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| 12:23.07 | mender27 | Oh well. Out to take a walk. See you everyone and keep up the good spirits! :) |
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| 12:25.40 | BluesKaj | hmm, debian wikis block my vpn, bummer::/ |
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| 12:36.15 | tinyhippo | abrotman: that's already installed :( |
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| 12:38.51 | abrotman | tinyhippo: Maybe a BIOS update, but I'm about out of ideas .. it seems like it should "work" at this point |
| 12:39.00 | abrotman | or at least show up in lspci |
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| 13:20.00 | JohnA | is there a way of getting a list of installed packages/software? I have three servers and I am trying to work out why one seems have more software on it thatn the others. |
| 13:20.19 | shomon | hi, I've set up vino and am trying to connect via vnc. If I telnet to port 5900 I get RFB 003.007 but I can't seem to connect from outside even though it shows up okay on netstat |
| 13:20.28 | Papillon | dpkg -l iirc |
| 13:20.28 | dpkg | ii iirc 1.3-2.2 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 13:20.31 | missmbob | JohnA: dpkg -l |grep ^i |
| 13:20.44 | missmbob | you need the grep part as well |
| 13:20.46 | shomon | how can I tell if some other firewall or the router is stopping this connecting |
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| 13:22.48 | teraflops | if you cannot reach from outside but the service is listening, then something else is blocking it ^ |
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| 13:22.52 | petn-randall | shomon: You can run 'iptables -L -vn' as root on the Debian machines involved. |
| 13:23.01 | shomon | thanks, I'll try! |
| 13:23.36 | missmbob | probably need to set up port forwarding on the router to work from the outside |
| 13:24.04 | JohnA | missmbob, Thanks you very much!! |
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| 13:24.31 | Papillon | although you really don't want to be telnetting outside your home lan |
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| 13:25.04 | Papillon | it's like taking the front door off your house leaving only a screen door |
| 13:25.17 | shomon | it's from inside the lan.. |
| 13:25.27 | lysol | so its like an inside screen door? |
| 13:25.49 | Papillon | port forwarding works when you're trying to access, for instance, a home server from work when your home network uses NAT |
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| 13:31.52 | petn-randall | Papillon: That's still irrelevant for the problem. shomon doesn't intend to telnet to their server, they just used it for debugging. |
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| 13:35.05 | shomon | petn-randall: what should I look for in the output of that command? |
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| 13:37.50 | Bliepo | Hey everyone! I have a server which also functions as router but I have a bit of a problem. I use dnsmasq for DNS on the LAN side. I want dnsmasq to do 'split horizon' DNS: I want to return the gateway IP for my domain name on the LAN side and on the loopback interface I want it to point to 127.0.0.1. |
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| 13:39.21 | Bliepo | Now I excluded the loopback and WAN interface from dnsmasq, but now DNS is working for my LAN side, but not on the server (if I try to ping google it doesn't work) |
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| 13:39.53 | petn-randall | shomon: You can paste it to https://paste.debian.net and I'll explain it to you. |
| 13:39.59 | shomon | ok |
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| 13:42.13 | shomon | petn-randall: https://paste.debian.net/924417/ ok there it is |
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| 13:44.40 | petn-randall | shomon: Ah, you've got port 5900 allowed (line 158 + 159), but the packet counter (first column) is zero which means that no connection attempts have reached that port. |
| 13:44.49 | shomon | yup.. |
| 13:45.04 | shomon | so I guess it's the router? |
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| 13:54.01 | shomon | ah but if telnet gave back that data.. maybe that's not it connecting but some other thing.. |
| 13:54.44 | shomon | brb |
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| 14:11.02 | reactormonk | I need python-twisted 17.1.0 - what's the correct way to install it? |
| 14:11.29 | reactormonk | 8.7 |
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| 14:11.48 | dvs | ,v python-twisted |
| 14:11.49 | judd | Package: python-twisted on amd64 -- wheezy: 12.0.0-1; wheezy-backports: 13.2.0-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 14.0.2-3; jessie-backports: 16.2.0-1~bpo8+1; sid: 16.6.0-2; stretch: 16.6.0-2 |
| 14:13.00 | zxd | hi |
| 14:14.00 | zxd | when creating a package with dpkg-buildpackage how does it know what libraries and packages dependencies to put in the meta data of the deb file? |
| 14:14.18 | reactormonk | dvs, is there something like downloading the build sources and changing the version and see if that works out? |
| 14:15.15 | TomTomTosch | reactormonk: you can install it using pip. the package is named Twisted. |
| 14:15.50 | zxd | what's debian developer channel |
| 14:15.52 | TomTomTosch | zxd: dependency information is listed in the control file. |
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| 14:16.40 | zxd | TomTomTosch: it isn't resolved after the file is compiled? |
| 14:16.42 | zxd | program |
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| 14:19.40 | missmbob | zxd: no. whatever the maintainer puts in debian/control |
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| 14:35.41 | georgia | anyone on? I just upgraded to stretch but I have a lot of obsolete/held back/autoremovable packages |
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| 14:39.29 | shomon | petn-randall: I'm wondering how to check where it is that it's not allowing connections. if it has never reached the port, then I guess something internal is blocking it. |
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| 14:40.05 | hanasaki | why would my cpu always report running at full speed instead of throttling down? it's a 4770k - same with stable and testing |
| 14:40.49 | Papillon | some cpu frequency monitors aren't able to detect power related downclocking |
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| 14:42.21 | georgia | dependency hell after ugrading, please help. I'm afraid I can't turn my computer off because I can't find grub-dummy |
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| 14:43.11 | missmbob | georgia: more people with stretch/upgrade experience on their channel: #debian-next on oftc |
| 14:43.34 | georgia | I'll try that. |
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| 14:58.16 | Leverator | Is here anybody using Debian Stretch? |
| 14:58.31 | missmbob | a lot more in #debian-next on oftc are |
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| 14:59.00 | Leverator | I can't join #debian-next: " Leverator #debian-next Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited" ... |
| 14:59.08 | missmbob | it's on oftc, not freenode |
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| 15:03.02 | abrotman | Leverator: you can try asking here |
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| 15:05.03 | BluesKaj | Leverator, your nick needs to be registered on OFTC |
| 15:05.19 | missmbob | he's already there |
| 15:05.54 | BluesKaj | ok, I was just there, didn't see him |
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| 15:09.34 | shomon | I am trying to get chromium to run, but it has nss root cert errors I think related to the software not having much support.. how do I copy settings from chromium onto some other browser that can still work under debian? |
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| 15:10.25 | abrotman | BluesKaj: and no, you don't need to be registered |
| 15:11.29 | BluesKaj | odd abrotman, the debian chat suggested that i register ....guess it's not mandatory |
| 15:11.40 | abrotman | BluesKaj: ON OFTC .. |
| 15:11.55 | BluesKaj | abrotman, yes OFTC |
| 15:12.00 | abrotman | no |
| 15:12.13 | abrotman | One of you, or your client, is broken |
| 15:13.26 | BluesKaj | abrotman, ?? |
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| 15:14.25 | abrotman | !confuse BluesKaj |
| 15:14.25 | dpkg | No, those is my gouda today, BluesKaj? Trousers of the People's Republic of Tahiti with extra anchovies. |
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| 15:15.33 | BluesKaj | abrotman, my irc client is fine , the reference was about another user |
| 15:15.49 | abrotman | believes he knows which is broken |
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| 15:33.55 | dixsonhoepp | Hi, I need the calibration of the monitor permanently |
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| 15:44.00 | J1sy | Help why isnt there a gui for debian i select kde and a i get is config is locked/failed, i tried from tasksel no difference help please ;-( |
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| 15:45.12 | TomTomTosch | J1sy: sounds like you didn't run tasksel as root. |
| 15:45.53 | abrotman | I think he wants kiosk mode |
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| 15:47.28 | abrotman | oh, I misread |
| 15:47.56 | abrotman | J1sy: you choose KDE where? Did you install KDE? are you trying to login as root? |
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| 15:48.12 | psychoticwarrior | what do u like better KDE or GDM |
| 15:48.23 | abrotman | those are different things |
| 15:48.29 | J1sy | Not sure i will try as root then, are the files include for kde and gtk |
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| 15:48.32 | abrotman | and that conversation is silly |
| 15:48.41 | abrotman | J1sy: you sohuldn't login as root |
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| 15:49.00 | J1sy | KDE ALL THE WAY |
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| 15:53.03 | J1sy | I recently TRY LM18,IT WAS GOod IT worked then i saw debiam comes with many software told myself i just had to have it, downloaded the 3 disks for 32bit and 64bit |
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| 15:54.38 | hello123d | I can't get linux to install on this new computer. I burned an iso live cd with rufus. However, when I get in the alternative boot menu and pick "boot from usb" nothing happens. |
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| 15:55.18 | mtn | !win32diskimager |
| 15:55.18 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
| 15:55.27 | CrowX- | is it normal for debian minimal not to have ping installed by default? |
| 15:55.35 | mtn | hello123d: also better than rufus |
| 15:55.35 | CrowX- | i.e. does it not include it by default? |
| 15:55.40 | abrotman | CrowX-: depends how you did the install, but possible |
| 15:55.58 | CrowX- | abrotman, I'm using a debian template for a lxc container |
| 15:56.02 | CrowX- | and it doesn't have ping |
| 15:56.12 | CrowX- | I want to know if that's common, or something is wrong with this tempalte |
| 15:56.13 | CrowX- | template* |
| 15:56.19 | hello123d | thanks, i'll try win32diskimager |
| 15:56.28 | abrotman | judd: info ping |
| 15:56.29 | judd | No package named 'ping' was found in jessie/amd64. |
| 15:56.42 | hello123d | it's not installd by default on win10? |
| 15:56.57 | CrowX- | judd, the package was something like iputils-ping or similar |
| 15:57.01 | CrowX- | but the tool is ping |
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| 15:57.02 | abrotman | CrowX-: yeah, the package is "extra", so it's possible |
| 15:57.02 | mtn | hello123d: I think you need to get it |
| 15:57.03 | Pavr | dpkg gave you a link to it hello123d |
| 15:57.04 | dpkg | Pavr: I give up, what is it? |
| 15:57.08 | J1sy | Waste of time with rufus use win32 image load it works and debian is 190% support |
| 15:57.21 | jim | does debian have installers for arm anymore? |
| 15:57.31 | abrotman | CrowX-: iputils is "important" so, yes |
| 15:57.32 | abrotman | jim: yes |
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| 15:58.10 | jim | abrotman, ok... I'm on the site, but I don't see it,,, can you provide a link? |
| 15:58.25 | hello123d | I already disabled secureboot (and windows fastboot) but are there other bios options I need to tweak to get it to run? |
| 15:58.36 | BluesKaj | raspbian, based on bedian jessie |
| 15:58.44 | abrotman | jim: https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst three different types |
| 15:58.52 | BluesKaj | debian-jessie even :-) |
| 15:58.55 | abrotman | BluesKaj: Please stop, you're not helping anyone, and you're causing problems |
| 15:58.57 | jim | thanks |
| 15:59.47 | psychoticwarrior | wida |
| 15:59.49 | BluesKaj | pixel desktop |
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| 16:00.00 | abrotman | CrowX-: so, if you'd have used a regular installer, it would be very unlikely, but not sure with a pre-built container |
| 16:00.03 | jim | so I see... any with the nonfree firmware? |
| 16:00.11 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jim about firmware images |
| 16:00.15 | abrotman | not sure if they exist for arm |
| 16:00.21 | CrowX- | I see |
| 16:00.22 | CrowX- | thanks |
| 16:00.30 | abrotman | doesn't seem so |
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| 16:01.30 | BluesKaj | jim yes |
| 16:01.39 | hello123d | eh, windows32diskimager wanted an img file for some reason, but i gave it an iso instead. i hope that doesn't matter |
| 16:01.50 | missmbob | hello123d: it doesnt |
| 16:01.58 | abrotman | hello123d: no, it's dumb like that, but the outcome is functional |
| 16:02.53 | hello123d | thanks, i'll try |
| 16:03.31 | BluesKaj | jim jessie main contrib non-free rpi |
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| 16:04.31 | TomTomTosch | i can't find non-free images for arm either. |
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| 16:05.03 | abrotman | you could create your own, or get them from a USB drive during the install |
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| 16:05.28 | jim | so put the .deb on the usb? |
| 16:05.41 | hello123d | i had no luck. It displays "Generic HDD usb device" but pressing it, does nothing, not even an error. |
| 16:05.57 | jim | or an -additional- usb drive? |
| 16:06.21 | jim | (or could I put it on the same usb?) |
| 16:07.01 | jim | he wants to know if it can boot anyway, so I'll link him to the image and deal with firmware issues later |
| 16:08.09 | TomTomTosch | you would format a second usb as fat and put the firmware inside the directory /firmware |
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| 16:08.41 | jim | TomTomTosch, it might be easier to just install the base first] |
| 16:08.59 | jim | then install the firmware from .debs |
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| 16:09.11 | TomTomTosch | that's your choice. |
| 16:09.38 | jim | well I'll pass the choice along to the person I'm helping |
| 16:10.44 | jim | anyway thanks abrotman, TomTomTosch, BluesKaj |
| 16:11.19 | jhutchins | hello123d: Did you verify the md5sum of your download? |
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| 16:18.26 | hello123d | jhutchins: the hashes match up, however i think i need to check that i did burn the iso file and not the torrent file by accident |
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| 16:21.19 | hello123d | but first i'll disable "hide known extensions" |
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| 16:22.11 | dixsonhoepp | How to calibrate the monitor permanently? |
| 16:22.29 | maven27145 | Hello, help needed. I'm sitting Debian Jessie and trying to get Bumblebee to work. I installed the latest nvidia driver from the guide on the Debian webpage, but as soon as the driver is installed and I reboot, xorg fails, giving me that "something went wrong" message. Anyone? |
| 16:22.38 | hello123d | i'll try again |
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| 16:22.53 | jim | abrotman, also I didn't catch the link BluesKaj provided... oh wait, you quieted him? what was the problem there? |
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| 16:24.28 | Pavr | [17:39:02] BluesKaj [~Blues@unaffiliated/blueskaj] has joined #debian |
| 16:24.38 | Orbstheorem | what is the 'sys' group for on debian? |
| 16:24.44 | Pavr | no parts from you after that |
| 16:24.59 | psychoticwarrior | do u like tranny chaser grand slam |
| 16:25.09 | Pavr | durp |
| 16:25.09 | init7 | Is debian Testing a Rolling release ? |
| 16:25.22 | hello123d | nope, it still won't boot the livecd |
| 16:25.26 | maven27145 | init7, not rolling |
| 16:25.29 | psychoticwarrior | rolling has issues with udev. it just hangs |
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| 16:25.48 | init7 | maven27145: well is there any Rolling release debian ? |
| 16:26.01 | missmbob | init7: no |
| 16:26.10 | maven27145 | init7, no it defeats the purpose of Debiam completely |
| 16:26.49 | init7 | maven27145: I just saw at Distrowatch this so I thought asking for Release Model: Fixed, Semi-Rolling, Rolling |
| 16:27.15 | psychoticwarrior | check out /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:27.17 | psychoticwarrior | gpk-prefs |
| 16:27.28 | maven27145 | init7, if you want roling, Arch is a good choice |
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| 16:28.07 | init7 | maven27145: I am using Arch right now but I do love Debian but I don't want to be out of date with apps since I am using as a desktop user I want some of new packages to |
| 16:28.16 | jhutchins | hello123d: Have you ever gotten it to boot to the USB drive? |
| 16:28.38 | jhutchins | hello123d: I would suggest exploring various live options until you get it to work and figure out what the steps are. |
| 16:29.01 | maven27145 | init7, totally understand.. I got my own probs with my primus laptop. Debain aint built for shit like this x) |
| 16:29.45 | init7 | maven27145: Have u tried Debian 9 Stretch ? |
| 16:30.00 | maven27145 | init7, no. Maybe I should |
| 16:30.26 | init7 | maven27145: there's all new packages even kernel is new not the latest but it's 4.9..... idk which :P |
| 16:30.38 | init7 | maven27145: is 4.9.0-1 |
| 16:30.40 | maven27145 | init7 Have you tried Arch with Bumblebee by any chance? |
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| 16:30.45 | missmbob | it's not latest because it's frozen...because it's not rolling |
| 16:31.21 | jhutchins | maven27145: I haven't seen anything in Stretch that would be specific to hybrid graphics. That's a continuing project among multiple distributions, x.org and freedesktop.org |
| 16:31.49 | init7 | maven27145: yeah it does work :P |
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| 16:32.11 | init7 | maven27145: hybrid grapich |
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| 16:32.25 | maven27145 | init7 Well, maybe I should switch to Arch then. I just alway fak up the installation |
| 16:32.33 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 16:32.34 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.10.0-rc6-686-pae (4.10~rc6-1~exp2); sid: 4.9.0-2-686 (4.9.13-1); stretch: 4.9.0-2-686 (4.9.13-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.9.13-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.86-1) |
| 16:32.46 | init7 | maven27145: you can use Manjaro it comes with preinstalled window manager :P |
| 16:32.57 | maven27145 | I know.. |
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| 16:33.01 | dixsonhoepp | Hi, I need the calibration of the monitor permanently |
| 16:33.21 | maven27145 | init7 but Im picky when it comes to distros |
| 16:33.49 | maven27145 | dixon, you mean physical or software wise? |
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| 16:36.29 | maven27145 | Well, I still need help with my xorg |
| 16:37.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | guys how do i trouble shoot a half configured package in debian? |
| 16:37.56 | Eryn_1983_FL | there isnt crap in the dpkg.log file |
| 16:38.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | how am i suppose to know where to look for issue |
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| 16:39.02 | Brigo | Eryn_1983_FL, can you paste the output of apt-get in paste.debian.net? |
| 16:41.04 | Papillon | dpkg --reconfigure? |
| 16:41.06 | dpkg | Papillon: are you using Windows? |
| 16:41.18 | Papillon | AM I BEING DETAINED! |
| 16:41.47 | Eryn_1983_FL | nm |
| 16:41.51 | hanasaki | Papillon: thanks. seems to work if root does this after boot... cpufreq-set -d 800Mhz / the current driver when it stays at max speed is "driver: acpi-cpufreq |
| 16:41.52 | hanasaki | " upon boot. that do you think? |
| 16:41.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | i fixed it |
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| 16:42.02 | Eryn_1983_FL | detained? |
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| 16:42.31 | Papillon | dpkg bot was asking me accusitorial questions |
| 16:42.32 | dpkg | Papillon: no idea |
| 16:42.51 | Papillon | are you trying to set the minimum power state frequency? |
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| 16:43.23 | hanasaki | available cpufreq governors: conservative, userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance, schedutil |
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| 16:44.17 | hanasaki | Papillon: not sure what that means? min power state? |
| 16:44.29 | Papillon | minimum power state |
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| 16:44.58 | Papillon | processors have a max freq and a min freq. Say you get a 3GHz cpu, but you haven't done anything in a few mins, it's idle with 0% cpu utilization |
| 16:45.07 | Papillon | it clocks itself down to a minimum power saving frequency |
| 16:45.48 | hanasaki | Papillon: yes that sounds iright... however w/o calling cpufreq-set min = max |
| 16:46.07 | hanasaki | in the past I used ondemand... and that worked fine. |
| 16:46.08 | Papillon | cpufreq-set -d sets min cpu freq |
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| 16:46.52 | Papillon | ondemand should be fine |
| 16:46.58 | Papillon | they all basically work |
| 16:47.19 | hanasaki | what's this acpi_cpufreq or intel_pstates or ondemand? how do they differ? |
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| 16:47.33 | hanasaki | the big problem is that it boots with min=max |
| 16:47.51 | Papillon | pstates is probably power states |
| 16:47.52 | hanasaki | I want it to slow down when there is no demand and run cooler / use less power |
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| 16:48.29 | Papillon | on demand should work and that command should set the minimum power state, so that should fix your problem |
| 16:48.55 | hanasaki | how can I get it to boot into ondemand or into the same as now "driver: acpi-cpufreq" but with min =800 instead of min=max so it always runs full speed |
| 16:49.38 | Papillon | you could put those in your user dot file... |
| 16:49.47 | Papillon | there also might be a way to put it in your init config |
| 16:49.54 | hanasaki | I even compiled a new kernel and set the config for ondemand = default however it still comes up pstate |
| 16:50.09 | neibo | e |
| 16:50.30 | Papillon | pstate sounds like the driver for intel processor power management |
| 16:50.39 | towo` | hanasaki, boot with intel_pstate=disable |
| 16:51.05 | towo` | hanasaki, as long as your kernel is compiled with intel_pstate enabled, it will be the default |
| 16:51.45 | hanasaki | towo`: thanks. even if it's a module? |
| 16:51.48 | Papillon | pstate is the mechanism intel uses to control processor frequency and power... It would be weird if it pegged it at max cpu 100% |
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| 16:51.59 | Orbstheorem | Are we supposed to modify what's under /etc/default? |
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| 16:52.07 | hanasaki | so what is intel_pstate supposed to have for behavior / be good for? |
| 16:52.29 | Orbstheorem | supposed to be able to |
| 16:53.03 | hello123d | jhutchins: yes, on other laptops, but this is the first one that has secure boot enabled by default |
| 16:53.47 | hanasaki | hmmm towo` and Papillon : the kernel build options have "*" for pstate and it cannot be changed... sup w/ that? |
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| 16:54.13 | hanasaki | Papillon: ya I get that... and it is weird .. it is pegged to max |
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| 16:54.52 | hanasaki | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.05 | hanasaki | driver: acpi-cpufreq |
| 16:55.23 | hanasaki | so ondemand AND acpi-cpufreq? |
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| 16:55.52 | siiky | hey there everyone. instmodsh is using a lot of CPU (100% on one of the cores), what is it doing? the man page says its related to dpkg so id like to know, is it safe to kill it? |
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| 16:55.59 | siiky | its been running for about 10min now |
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| 17:01.29 | maven27145 | Still need help fixing my xorg/xserver |
| 17:04.34 | Papillon | what's wrong with it? |
| 17:04.47 | maven27145 | pm me pls |
| 17:06.33 | maven27145 | xorg gives me "smth went wrong" error after insralling nvidia driver on primus laptop |
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| 17:07.25 | lord_daemon | Using ftp, how do I make the mput command not replace the files that are already there? |
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| 17:12.44 | jhutchins | lord_daemon: You use rsync. |
| 17:14.55 | jhutchins | maven27145: It's better to have technical discussions here in the open. If nothing else, other people can learn from them, and people can contribute and point out errors. |
| 17:15.45 | maven27145 | Ok. Still need help |
| 17:16.01 | lord_daemon | jhutchins: I was doing a backup routine ... Okay. So I'll try doing it with rsync |
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| 17:16.39 | jhutchins | lord_daemon: rsync has some great options for backups. |
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| 17:17.47 | lord_daemon | thanks |
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| 17:23.12 | georgia | No one is on debian-next. |
| 17:23.59 | georgia | My upgrade to stretch failed. The reason is that systemd : Breaks: rdnssd (< 1.0.1-5) but 1.0.1-1+b1 is to be installed |
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| 17:26.59 | JPT | debian next is on oftc, not on freenode |
| 17:27.05 | georgia | I know. |
| 17:27.16 | georgia | I checked there, no one active |
| 17:27.34 | JPT | Well, perhaps most of them are sleeping? Check back later :) |
| 17:27.37 | georgia | I said that in advance because I figured people would tell me to go there |
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| 17:27.42 | mtn | georgia: you didnt' ask any question there, as far as I can see |
| 17:28.05 | mtn | georgia: not in the last hour and a half, anyway |
| 17:28.06 | georgia | You're right, I waited for someone to come on, and they didn't |
| 17:28.14 | mtn | georgia: not how irc works |
| 17:28.18 | georgia | I said, "anyone on"? |
| 17:28.27 | mtn | georgia: Ask your question and if anyone can help they will respond. |
| 17:28.42 | mtn | georgia: not in the last hour and a half, anyway |
| 17:29.26 | georgia | If they don't will you help? Is there a way I can not install rdnssd? I believe it's part of stretch's implementation of ipv6 |
| 17:29.34 | mtn | georgia: go there and ask your real question. wait for an answer |
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| 17:30.15 | missmbob | waiting hours isnt uncommon. ask and be patient. |
| 17:30.17 | Papillon | you could try manually installing a rdnssd that's more recent? |
| 17:30.32 | Papillon | try installing rdnssd 1.0.1-5 |
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| 17:30.48 | Papillon | or you could try forcing stuff |
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| 17:31.05 | n4dir | after an hour or so i guess asking again won't be that big a problem. Though in general #debian-next doesn't seem that active. Asking also in a forum might be an option |
| 17:31.17 | babilen | I guess the question is: How did you try to upgrade to stretch? (and -next would be a better place) |
| 17:31.53 | Dagger | stretch has 1.0.3-3 so that's what you could try... but why is apt-get not installing it for you if it's required? |
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| 17:32.53 | georgia | woops banned for flooding |
| 17:33.00 | georgia | stupid copy paste |
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| 17:33.14 | georgia | actually I was kicked |
| 17:33.25 | mtn | georgia: and still in the wrong channel. you want #debian-next, not #debian |
| 17:34.07 | Papillon | try installing rdnssd 1.0.1-5 |
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| 17:39.48 | pgrunwald | Hi all - I just set up lxc as per https://wiki.debian.org/LXC for debian 9. Instead of Ubuntu, I downloaded debian:stretch:amd64. When I upgrade I get the following error: paste.debian.net/924447 Question: where do I modify the path for the container? In $HOME/.local/share/lxc/debian/config or from within the container itself? |
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| 18:01.11 | pgrunwald | root@stretch:/# cat $PATH |
| 18:01.11 | pgrunwald | cat: '/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games': No such file or directory |
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| 18:02.03 | newcoder | Is it possible to install php7 in debian 8? |
| 18:02.06 | newcoder | ,v php |
| 18:02.07 | judd | Package: php on amd64 -- stretch: 1:7.0+49; sid: 1:7.0+51 |
| 18:02.17 | newcoder | ,v php7 |
| 18:02.18 | judd | No package named 'php7' was found in amd64. |
| 18:02.21 | missmbob | newcoder: not in any recommended way that wont break things |
| 18:02.49 | newcoder | What is that way? |
| 18:03.02 | missmbob | the not recommended way? |
| 18:03.17 | missmbob | !dotdeb |
| 18:03.17 | dpkg | http://dotdeb.org/ is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack, unsupported in #debian. To get support, read http://www.dotdeb.org/2012/08/24/how-to-post-useful-bug-reports/ and report any issues to https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/issues . Ask me about <dotdeb alternatives>. |
| 18:03.34 | missmbob | unsupported and unrecommended. do it and you're on your own |
| 18:03.58 | OerHeks | make sure you use 7.0 in search |
| 18:04.03 | OerHeks | ,v php7.0 |
| 18:04.04 | judd | Package: php7.0 on amd64 -- sid: 7.0.14-2; stretch: 7.0.16-3; sid: 7.0.16-3 |
| 18:04.31 | newcoder | Not in jessie |
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| 18:04.39 | newcoder | Why will dotdeb break system? |
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| 18:04.55 | newcoder | missmbob: ^ |
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| 18:05.01 | missmbob | they're known to make low quality debs. it may not break. it might. you're on your own. |
| 18:05.11 | missmbob | and i've gotta go for a few |
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| 18:05.22 | newcoder | Where can I get high quality php7.0.deb? |
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| 18:20.06 | zykotick9 | on a fresh install of debian (jessie) on the lenovo laptop - my ALT+# are producing unexpected character (in Xorg, VT everything is fine) - for example ALT+5 gives "µ" -- this is creating a problem when using irssi |
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| 18:31.22 | somiaj | zykotick9: what terminal? In tmux? Anyways I can confirm, alt-5 produces µ here too. In irssi use ctrl-n and ctrl-p to switch windows, so it dones't get in my way |
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| 18:32.09 | somiaj | it is probably the terminal taking the keybinding and not passing it to the app, unsure if this is due to utf-8 or something else |
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| 18:34.06 | zykotick9 | somiaj: thank you. it's xterm specific, after install urxvt, my alt keys are working as expected again. Thanks! |
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| 18:34.49 | somiaj | there maybe a way to configure xterm to not do that. |
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| 18:41.21 | somiaj | zykotick9: click ctrl + leftclick on xterm, this opens down a menu, select Meta Sends Escape and you get the alt keys working like they should in irssi |
| 18:41.39 | somiaj | zykotick9: there is also an option for this via .Xdefults you can configure it to be default |
| 18:44.03 | zykotick9 | somiaj: thanks again. |
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| 18:54.17 | reactormonk | ,v python-openssl |
| 18:54.20 | judd | Package: python-openssl on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.13-2+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 0.13-2+deb7u1; jessie: 0.14-1; jessie-backports: 16.0.0-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 16.2.0-1; sid: 16.2.0-1 |
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| 19:00.12 | hello123d | I have been able to run the debian live cd, but I wasn't able to connect to any network. |
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| 19:01.33 | mtn | hello123d: what network card are you trying to use? |
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| 19:01.56 | missmbob | that's pretty normal. live cd doesnt include firmware that your card may need to function |
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| 19:03.06 | missmbob | if you get the iso from here, it will include nonfree firmware. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.7.1-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
| 19:04.11 | missmbob | it'll increase your chances anyway |
| 19:04.46 | hello123d | mtn: Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC 8260 |
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| 19:05.20 | mtn | hello123d: you need the iso with firmware, as missmbob said |
| 19:05.50 | hello123d | missmbob: thanks, i'll use the non-free iso in that case |
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| 19:08.46 | hello123d | I want my network card to work before installation instead of having to fix it afterwards |
| 19:09.04 | missmbob | hello123d: you're trying to install with this? |
| 19:09.04 | hello123d | too bad, there is no free driver (yet) for this hardware |
| 19:09.27 | mtn | hello123d: the drive is free, the firmware is not |
| 19:09.35 | missmbob | hello123d: you never install with live iso. live install has many bugs |
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| 19:10.24 | hello123d | missmbob: i always installed with live iso so far |
| 19:10.35 | missmbob | hello123d: stop. get the iso from here |
| 19:10.38 | missmbob | !firmware iso |
| 19:10.38 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 19:10.51 | missmbob | that's the proper installer, not live, with nonfree firmware |
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| 19:12.05 | hello123d | Then why not put a warning on debian.org that there are bugs with the live installer? |
| 19:12.17 | hello123d | when installing from them |
| 19:12.31 | abrotman | does debian.org suggest to use the liveCD as the installer? |
| 19:12.51 | hello123d | it doesn't explicitely advise against it |
| 19:12.59 | Papillon | there's a netinst |
| 19:13.01 | abrotman | does it tell you that it's supported? or recommend it? |
| 19:13.04 | Papillon | it's about 250MB |
| 19:13.31 | abrotman | isn't aware anywhere that it suggests it is okay |
| 19:13.48 | hello123d | When you are ready, you can run the included installer |
| 19:13.59 | hello123d | is what it says |
| 19:13.59 | abrotman | from where? |
| 19:14.30 | abrotman | hello123d: yes, I see it .. perhaps it does need a bug filed against it |
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| 19:14.36 | hello123d | https://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
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| 19:14.51 | missmbob | anyway, use the proper installer i linked you to, not live |
| 19:15.19 | abrotman | I wonder if you can install from the bootloader instead of from the running system |
| 19:15.22 | hello123d | i don't see the harm, but if you are are sure, i'll download an iso without live |
| 19:15.41 | missmbob | yes i'm sure it has bugs |
| 19:15.55 | Papillon | netinstaller. 10/10 would netinstall again |
| 19:16.08 | Papillon | actually it could be improved |
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| 19:16.58 | somiaj | the live installer has two forms, if you boot into the installer you are using a very close to offical installer. If you click the installer from inside the live enviroment, that is a different installer. |
| 19:17.00 | hello123d | If the installer on the non-live-cd is better, than why not include that installer on the livecd? |
| 19:18.18 | somiaj | hello123d: if you boot directly into the installer you get a very near offical installer. There are some differences, the biggest is no efi support on the live images. There are some small differences, but using the installer instead of installing from the live enviroment should be suggested if installing from a live image. |
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| 19:18.43 | somiaj | though I still suggest the offical installers, the live project was a side project that hasn't seen to much development (just maintance) in a while. |
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| 19:22.32 | mender27 | Evening there. |
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| 19:22.52 | Papillon | hi |
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| 19:23.48 | guest12345 | Papillon: hello |
| 19:24.24 | Pepe | Feel free to reply: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=132324 |
| 19:24.30 | Papillon | hi |
| 19:25.19 | guest12345 | I am having some issues right now with my wifi card (of a laptop). I can't find it with the lspci command. What should I do next? |
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| 19:25.59 | guest12345 | some background: I did the net installation and used the ethernet cable |
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| 19:26.06 | Papillon | did it come with the laptop from the manufacturer? |
| 19:26.26 | somiaj | guest12345: have you checked lsusb, are you sure it is a pci wifi card, what else do you ikniow about the card? |
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| 19:28.27 | guest12345 | somiaj: I know about its drivers. net inst mentioned them as missing firmware. they are included in the realtek-firmware package which i installed |
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| 19:29.17 | somiaj | guest12345: you should be able to see the card if you don't have the correct drivers, so I would first locate and determine which card you have. |
| 19:29.33 | somiaj | guest12345: if it isn't in lspci, is it a pci card? could it be on the usb bus? lsusb? |
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| 19:30.21 | somiaj | guest12345: dmesg | grep -i firmware can also help if all it did was fail to load firmware, it should tell you what firmware failed. |
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| 19:31.38 | abrotman | guest12345: were you here earlier? the toshiba? |
| 19:31.52 | guest12345 | abrotman: no |
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| 19:33.07 | mender27 | guest12345, if it's not lspci, then it's either not connected or not on a pci bus as others mentioned. OR it's set to OFF via a hardware switch. |
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| 19:33.43 | mender27 | Because that physically disables the wifi card. |
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| 19:35.04 | guest12345 | somiaj: after running the dmesg | grep -i firmware command i can see the card. |
| 19:35.05 | Papillon | could be not on the whitelist |
| 19:35.11 | Papillon | if it's on a thinkpad for instance |
| 19:35.37 | somiaj | guest12345: okay? I don't know what you can see, did the firmware load what card is it? |
| 19:35.50 | guest12345 | somiaj: i think so. where could i paste? |
| 19:36.00 | somiaj | guest12345: putting output at a paste.debian.net would help out. |
| 19:36.22 | somiaj | guest12345: did the firmware load, or is there a messagae saying failure to load firmware. If it loaded the firmware then the module for the card is loaded. |
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| 19:37.18 | guest12345 | somiaj: https://paste.debian.net/924474/ |
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| 19:38.40 | somiaj | guest12345: can you paste the output of 'ip addr' at paste.debian.net |
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| 19:43.39 | mender27 | guest12345, the pastebin you provided only shows that the firmware was loaded. |
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| 19:44.00 | mender27 | Also, you should not need to load the firmware manually. The driver/kernel module takes care of that :). |
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| 19:45.46 | guest12345 | is this the line you need somiaj ? 3: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000 |
| 19:46.34 | guest12345 | 1. lo, 2. eh0. 3. that one and some mac addresses, i think |
| 19:46.43 | guest12345 | eth0 |
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| 19:47.16 | somiaj | guest12345: your card is up and running wlan0, so what do you want to do with it? How do you want to manage it, do you just want some tool like network-manager? |
| 19:47.21 | somiaj | guest12345: if so what DE did you use? |
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| 19:48.07 | tlund | If I want to request a package to be added to jessie-backports, what should I do? (the packages in question are "adb" and "fastboot") |
| 19:48.17 | guest12345 | somiaj: Wicd. i just added wlan0 on the wifi interface and now i can see the networks. thanks :) |
| 19:48.30 | guest12345 | somiaj: will the firmware be loaded automatically from now on? |
| 19:48.49 | somiaj | guest12345: yes, one just usually has to reboot or reload the wifi module after installing the firmware package. |
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| 19:49.52 | somiaj | tlund: https://backports.debian.org/ you can find the info there, though the suggestion is to contribute. but there is info about how to request in there somewhere. |
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| 19:50.59 | guest12345 | ok thanks. I will try rebooting later. |
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| 19:51.09 | tlund | somiaj: i already looked there, and could not find it (unless the answer is "join the mailinglist") |
| 19:51.29 | tlund | I would preferr not to join the ML, ask there, and then get chewed out because I ask in the wrong place. :) |
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| 19:52.49 | guest12345 | I have another question: how can I force debian to do the security updates automatically? I am setting up this computer for an old person that is not willing to learn how to update packages. I was thinking about giving the user permission to run the command, putting in in xinitrc after pinging successfully the debian packages address. But there must be some simpler way? |
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| 19:53.15 | missmbob | !unattended-upgrades |
| 19:53.15 | dpkg | somebody said unattended-upgrades was a package for installing security upgrades automatically, unattended. See https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades |
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| 19:54.19 | guest12345 | i will try that. thanks for the support! |
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| 19:55.32 | somiaj | tlund: I would make your own and maybe see if you could get a sponsor once you have it done. But besides that I can't find any exact info but I think you just file an RFP bug https://wiki.debian.org/RFP |
| 19:55.51 | somiaj | tlund: I'm seeing various RFP bugs for other requests for backported packages |
| 19:55.52 | tlund | somiaj: If I could make my own, I would not be here asking. :) |
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| 19:56.11 | somiaj | !tell tlund about ssb |
| 19:56.20 | somiaj | tlund: sometimes it is as simple as the set of instructions the bot gave |
| 19:56.38 | somiaj | just apt-get -b source packagename. |
| 19:56.50 | somiaj | (after you ste up the build enviorment) |
| 19:57.08 | tlund | !tell tlund about package recompile |
| 19:57.39 | tlund | !tell tlund about debian/rules |
| 19:57.53 | jelly | !tell tlund about msg the bot |
| 19:57.54 | mender27 | :D |
| 19:58.41 | tlund | thanks jelly :) |
| 20:00.18 | tlund | so if I have deb-src lines for both jessie and sid, how do I download the sid source package? "apt-get -t sid source adb" did not work. :( |
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| 20:00.45 | mender27 | tlund, what do you mean by "did not work"? |
| 20:01.10 | tlund | mender27: E: The value 'sid' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
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| 20:01.22 | jelly | you're going to get the latest version by default and that usually means the one from unstable, tlund |
| 20:01.49 | tlund | jelly: thats not how jessie vs jessie-backports work - but perhaps there is some magic there? |
| 20:02.26 | tlund | or does "source" vs. "install" work differently? |
| 20:02.29 | hanasaki | Papillon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1188647 looks like it is a known bug>? |
| 20:02.31 | jelly | tlund, jessie-backports repo is configured in a special way for that |
| 20:02.50 | hello123d | I tried the non-free version of the live cd but still wasn't able to connect. I'm using Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC 8260 |
| 20:03.01 | tlund | jelly: ah, ok. thanks. |
| 20:03.43 | mender27 | hello123d, does the installer mention you're missing firmware for the Intel wireless chip explicitly? |
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| 20:04.19 | tlund | Ok, so it seems I cant build this because it has build-deps on a package that is only in sid - so I guess I just build and install that first? |
| 20:04.34 | jelly | tlund, build what? |
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| 20:04.44 | tlund | jelly: in this case, "android-libunwind-dev" |
| 20:05.08 | hello123d | mender27: no, it's simply that it always shows "disconnected" in wicd |
| 20:05.10 | jelly | judd, checkbackport android-libunwind-dev --fromrelease sid |
| 20:05.11 | judd | Backporting package android-libunwind-dev in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, jessie-backports. |
| 20:05.42 | jelly | tlund, looks like build-depends ought to be satisfied for that one |
| 20:05.47 | tlund | judd, checkbackport adb --fromrelease sid |
| 20:05.54 | judd | Backporting package adb in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: android-libunwind-dev (>= 7.0.0+r1~) [amd64 i386 armel armhf arm64 mips mipsel mips64el], libsafe-iop-dev [amd64 i386 armel armhf arm64 mips mipsel mips64el], android-libext4-utils-dev (>= 7.0.0+r1~) [amd64 i386 armel armhf arm64 mips mipsel mips64el] <!stage1>, android-libf2fs-utils-dev (>= 7.0.0+r1~) |
| 20:05.55 | judd | [amd64 i386 armel armhf arm64 mips mipsel mips64el] <!stage1>, googletest [amd64 i386 armel armhf arm64 mips mipsel mips64el] <!stage1>. |
| 20:06.31 | tlund | jelly: not sure what that meant - android-libunwind-dev is neither in jessie nor jessie-backports? |
| 20:06.51 | TomTomTosch | I can't find an adb package in sid. |
| 20:07.16 | hello123d | mender27: i havn't yet tried the installer with non-free. When i tried the installer without non-free packages it said it failed to automatically configure the network. |
| 20:07.34 | tlund | TomTomTosch: how are you looking? I found it. :) |
| 20:07.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems judd also did |
| 20:07.50 | TomTomTosch | ,v adb |
| 20:07.51 | judd | Package: adb on amd64 -- sid: 1:7.0.0+r1-3; stretch: 1:7.0.0+r1-3 |
| 20:07.56 | TomTomTosch | huh |
| 20:08.32 | jelly | tlund, didn't ask for its existence, just if it was sane to even try rebuilding it |
| 20:08.56 | tlund | jelly: ah |
| 20:08.59 | jelly | asking for existence would go something like |
| 20:09.05 | mender27 | hello123d, prior to that it should tell you that you're missing firmware if you're missing firmware indeed. |
| 20:09.10 | jelly | judd, versions android-libunwind-dev |
| 20:09.11 | judd | Package: android-libunwind-dev on amd64 -- sid: 7.0.0+r1-4; stretch: 7.0.0+r1-4 |
| 20:09.35 | jelly | tlund, and judd can be /msg'd as well |
| 20:09.36 | hello123d | mender27: okay, then i'm either not missing firmware or it fails to detect i'm missing firmware |
| 20:09.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | are you saying that things that don't exist can be sane to backport? |
| 20:09.55 | mender27 | hello123d, if you're running in graphical mode, have a look at the other ttys. Maybe one of them is running dmesg. |
| 20:10.18 | jelly | CutMeOwnThroat, it's ONLY sane to backport things that don't already exist, don't you thikn |
| 20:10.38 | hello123d | okay, and then check if one of them says something nasty about missing firmware |
| 20:10.50 | tlund | judd: If I understand correctly, I need to build and install "android-libunwind-dev" before I can build "adb", but build-dep for android-libunwind-dev seems to require a newer debhelper. :( |
| 20:10.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | not if they don't exist where you want to backport them FROM, |
| 20:10.59 | tlund | jelly: If I understand correctly, I need to build and install "android-libunwind-dev" before I can build "adb", but build-dep for android-libunwind-dev seems to require a newer debhelper. :( |
| 20:11.09 | missmbob | tlund: debhelper is found in jessie-backports |
| 20:11.11 | mender27 | hello123d, otherwise, you can ignore the fact that it's not able to configure the network and get to the point when you can start a shell from the installer environment. |
| 20:11.22 | jelly | tlund, and you probably got that debhelper in jessie-backports already |
| 20:11.29 | tlund | jelly: is it safe to just pull the newer debhelper from backports? |
| 20:11.34 | mender27 | hello123d, you can do the rest of the troubleshooting from there :). |
| 20:11.39 | tlund | yes, backports has version 10 (that I need) |
| 20:11.41 | hello123d | i'm not good with fixing network problems from a shell |
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| 20:12.14 | mender27 | hello123d, then at least have a look at dmesg in one of the other ttys. It will mention many things apart from missing firmware. |
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| 20:13.52 | hello123d | ok |
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| 20:16.38 | jelly | tlund, probably safer than backporting it yourself |
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| 20:17.37 | tlund | jelly: yeah. :) |
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| 20:17.59 | tlund | jelly: right now, I am trying to follow a really long chain of depends on different android packages and build and install them. :) |
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| 20:18.26 | jelly | good luck with your recursive backporting |
| 20:19.01 | tlund | jelly: was that sarcastic? ;) |
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| 20:19.38 | tlund | i mean, if there is a large chance this is not going to work, I should probably not waste time on it :) |
| 20:19.40 | jelly | no |
| 20:19.54 | tlund | if it just means a lot of work, I am game! |
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| 20:22.31 | tlund | ..wtf?! "dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: bash-completion" ...? why the hell do I need bash-completion to build "android-platform-system-core-7.0.0+r1"? hahaha |
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| 20:26.23 | tlund | hmm.. there seems to be circular dependencies between packages here, that should not be possible, right? I have to be doing something wrong? |
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| 20:28.36 | tlund | apt-get source android-libext4-utils-dev ; cd android-platform-system-extras-7.0.0+r1 ; dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us # says it requires android-platform-system-core-headers, but that is build from the same source package?! |
| 20:29.07 | tlund | how can a package have build dependencies on itself? |
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| 20:31.40 | TomTomTosch | android-libext4-utils-dev is part of the source package android-libext4-utils-dev, android-platform-system-core-headers is part of the source package android-platform-system-core. so no circular dependency, you just need to nuild the latter first. |
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| 20:32.10 | TomTomTosch | eh, correction, android-libext4-utils-dev is part of the source package android-platform-system-extras |
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| 20:32.45 | tlund | TomTomTosch: confused. What package should I build first? |
| 20:34.05 | TomTomTosch | you build the android-platform-system-core source package to get the android-platform-system-core-headers binary package, which you need as a dependency for android-libext4-utils-dev |
| 20:35.14 | tlund | When I try to build android-platform-system-core it says it neds android-libext4-utils-dev (that comes from android-platform-system-extras-7.0.0+r1) |
| 20:35.57 | tlund | And when I try to buld that, it says it needs android-platform-system-extras-7.0.0+r1, it needs android-platform-system-core-headers |
| 20:36.11 | tlund | that sounds circular to me? |
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| 20:36.43 | tlund | perhaps I can build just one package from the "android-platform-system-core-7.0.0+r1" dir? (the headers one) somehow? |
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| 20:37.23 | dixsonhoepp | Hello friends, I am presented with a problem and I can not find a solution. I want to keep the screen color calibrated. I have calibrated it with these two applications: Xcaliber, Nvidia x server settings.But every time I run for example a game in full screen, the screen color returns to defaut. I have to re-calibrate the color.How do I make the calibration I give the monitor default |
| 20:37.30 | tlund | because just running "dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us" gives me circular depencencies between android-platform-system-core-7.0.0+r1/ and android-platform-system-extras-7.0.0+r1/ |
| 20:42.22 | TomTomTosch | yeah, looks like it. that's bad. |
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| 20:43.03 | tlund | *phew* |
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| 20:43.13 | tlund | Not just me being crazy then! hehe. :) |
| 20:43.39 | tlund | I could probably just extract the "adb" and "fastboot" binaries from the sid package and be done with it. :) |
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| 20:44.54 | hello123d | I'm unable to connect to the internet on live cd. It says "Your network is probably not using the DHCP protocol." If I run "sudo dhcp" in a terminal, it writes the following to syslog: "No broadcasting interfaces found. Exiting"" |
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| 20:57.32 | L00P3X | hello.. how kann i install all possible guis at once? like as i could do at the firs install? |
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| 20:59.40 | missmbob | L00P3X: sudo tasksel |
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| 21:01.21 | L00P3X | thank you missmbob.. this will give me all guis like: gnome, kde, xfce.. ? |
| 21:01.55 | missmbob | i dont remember what all it lists. should be what you saw during the install |
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| 21:07.46 | L00P3X | missmbob seem that tasksel do not deliver what i need.. https://wiki.debian.org/tasksel#Desktop_environment |
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| 21:10.24 | L00P3X | but thank you i will install it once for once.. ^^ |
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| 21:32.53 | mender27 | Goodnight everyone! o/ |
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| 21:36.03 | missmbob | xingu: it's expired |
| 21:36.11 | xingu | neato |
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| 21:52.28 | hello123d | since i was unable to get dhcp to work with debian jessie, can i find (live) iso's of debian stretch somewhere? |
| 21:52.46 | missmbob | no |
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| 22:07.40 | derstrom | hello123d: Only way is to install stable first. There are no images for Debian Testing. |
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| 22:07.53 | missmbob | there are. just not live ones |
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| 22:09.30 | hello123d | derstrom: my problem is not being able to make an internet connection on jessie 8.7, not even with non-free enabled. Directly installing stretch could have been a work-around. |
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| 22:12.36 | teraflops | hello123d: use debootstrap then |
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| 22:12.56 | missmbob | or stop using requiring live like we already told you |
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| 22:13.12 | teraflops | pick a linux livecd that works then deboostrap debian |
| 22:13.14 | missmbob | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/stretch_di_rc2/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-stretch-DI-rc2-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 22:13.21 | teraflops | that works there^ |
| 22:13.35 | missmbob | use real installer...like we said a million times |
| 22:13.58 | teraflops | missmbob: oh I assumed he already tried it |
| 22:14.09 | teraflops | too many assumptions I think |
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| 22:14.21 | missmbob | teraflops: no. he keeps ignoring everyone and then doing his own thing. then saying it doesnt work |
| 22:14.27 | teraflops | I see |
| 22:14.34 | SuperTramp83 | hello123d, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/ |
| 22:14.44 | missmbob | SuperTramp83: no. that doesent include firmware |
| 22:14.47 | missmbob | damnit people |
| 22:14.53 | teraflops | hehe |
| 22:16.29 | SuperTramp83 | missmbob, he asked for the installer, not the unofficial blobbed one |
| 22:16.44 | missmbob | SuperTramp83: you need to pay attention to the entire conversation |
| 22:16.45 | hello123d | okay, then i'll try a direct install of stretch rc2 with non-free blops and hope the problem is solved |
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| 22:53.15 | bernhardr | Struggling while upgrading the kernel. Need to find out exactly why / where there is not enough space. cannot copy extracted data to './lib/modules/3.2.0-4-686-pae/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb/dvb-usb-af9015.ko |
| 22:54.02 | bernhardr | af9015.ko.dpkg-new': failed to write (No space left on device) |
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| 22:58.17 | Devastator | bernhardr how exactly you are upgrading the kernel? compiling a vanilla one? |
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| 22:58.58 | bernhardr | Devastator On debian 7 just upgrade through webmin |
| 22:59.12 | Devastator | what?! |
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| 23:00.26 | teraflops | that :( |
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| 23:01.24 | bernhardr | See the output http://pastebin.com/NynbZM8Y |
| 23:01.39 | ZIPY | hi, is there a testdisk irc channel? |
| 23:02.14 | ZIPY | im trying to recover a luks partition |
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| 23:13.23 | thereyougo | is "Stretch" a dog with a spring in the middle of his body ? |
| 23:13.56 | missmbob | rubber octopus |
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| 23:15.31 | dvs | He was already the name of a release. |
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