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| 00:04.19 | AlexPortable | When i try to run a program i downloaded i get 'file or folder doesnt exist' |
| 00:04.21 | AlexPortable | how do i solve it? |
| 00:04.38 | tw | AlexPortable: depends on how you're trying to run it. |
| 00:04.43 | AlexPortable | ./mta-server64 |
| 00:05.09 | missmbob | uname -m says what? |
| 00:05.23 | AlexPortable | i686 |
| 00:05.27 | missmbob | there you go |
| 00:05.42 | missmbob | you're not going to run a 64-bit program on i686 |
| 00:05.46 | AlexPortable | welp |
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| 00:07.26 | alekz | AlexPortable: can you give any details? |
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| 00:23.42 | TEXM | n |
| 00:24.29 | TEXM | Hello All |
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| 00:25.54 | zophyx | my name is larry, i have a mother, her name is mother |
| 00:26.22 | bazhang | zophyx, why share that here |
| 00:26.51 | zophyx | i heard it on 7200 KHz |
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| 00:27.18 | bazhang | #debian-offtopic zophyx |
| 00:27.40 | zophyx | oh man, do we need your policing here ? |
| 00:27.49 | zophyx | this is a friendly community |
| 00:28.00 | zophyx | ooops, sorry |
| 00:28.01 | bazhang | zophyx, this is a support channel |
| 00:28.13 | zophyx | i'm on the wrong |
| 00:28.17 | Jaggz | I'm working on something urgent.. but I'm in deb testing.. what do I do when I try to install libopencv-dev but apt-cache policy shows the experimental is the latest, and -t experimental still says I have held broken packages? |
| 00:28.22 | zophyx | my apologies :) |
| 00:28.36 | Jaggz | for example: Depends: libopencv-calib3d3.1 but it is not going to be installed |
| 00:29.17 | Jaggz | I'm sorry, trying to fix up a doc for an attorney and need these packages installed :/ |
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| 00:51.01 | sigdk | isn't this supposed to start mysql: /etc/init.d/mysql start ? It doesn't. Can I see any logfile for errors? Iremember also few days ago I had problems when trying to start another service |
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| 00:52.37 | Robby | try systemctl instead |
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| 00:54.12 | Robby | systemctl start mysql.service |
| 00:54.18 | Robby | systemctl status mysql.service |
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| 00:59.55 | sigdk | Robby, didn't work either |
| 01:00.00 | sigdk | are there any logs? |
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| 01:30.36 | jab416171 | how do I force linux to use the onboard graphics (intel i7 4770k) instead of the discrete graphics (nvidia gtx 1080) during boot? |
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| 01:32.03 | r4f_debian | hi all |
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| 01:40.22 | r4f_debian | please, is there anyone able on installing sap services in debian jessie ? |
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| 01:51.46 | gry | r4f_debian: sap services ? how far have you got so far ? |
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| 01:57.27 | van_ | someone explain me this? https://pastebin.com/cGE5pdae i see 30GB but it seems like it is use only 2GB |
| 01:57.32 | van_ | what is going on |
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| 02:07.16 | jab416171 | van_, resize2fs |
| 02:07.40 | jab416171 | van_, I'm guessing that's an sd card on a raspberry pi? |
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| 02:20.53 | van_ | its in the orange pi jab416171 |
| 02:21.58 | van_ | jab416171: The filesystem is already 312064 (4k) blocks long. Nothing to do! |
| 02:22.03 | van_ | ?!? |
| 02:22.12 | jab416171 | van_, man resize2fs |
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| 04:59.15 | awal1 | any suggestion on a script executing systemctl reboot/poweroff but with a pop-up window asking for confirmation (yes/No)? |
| 04:59.25 | awal1 | for a script |
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| 05:00.12 | awal1 | something like obsession-logout but non WM specific |
| 05:00.47 | nkuttler | just write it yourself? |
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| 05:01.53 | awal1 | lost with confirmation dialog part :P |
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| 07:02.09 | Lady_Aleena | Hello, is there a site where I can buy a copy of Debian jessie? |
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| 07:06.34 | Stummi | Lady_Aleena, you mean buying a prepared CD/DVD or USB-Stick? Some Linux-Shops do that |
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| 07:07.19 | Stummi | (though you are not buying "a copy of Debian jessie" here since this is free, but the medium |
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| 07:07.44 | Lady_Aleena | Stummi: So no online supplier? |
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| 07:08.05 | Stummi | Lady_Aleena, I don't know. What exactly do you mean with online supplier? |
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| 07:10.02 | Lady_Aleena | Stummi: Somewhere I can go online, give a credit card number, get disk(s) shipped. |
| 07:10.47 | Stummi | heres a list of vendors: See if some of them allow kredit cards https://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ |
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| 07:26.17 | Mava | what is the method to map network cards to eth0, eth1 etc. e.g. what is the parameter the debian(or linux in general) that specifies which interface is which eth number |
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| 07:28.25 | Mava | since it seems that RTL8111 is selected to eth0 instead of intel I217-LM even though the intel is integrated one |
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| 07:30.16 | nkuttler | !tell Mava about udev mac |
| 07:31.36 | Mava | nkuttler: thanks mate! |
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| 08:02.38 | barAve | unable to install Ajenti cpanel on a debian wheezy vps - hastebin.com/boqovoniju.pas |
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| 08:11.24 | jelly | dpkg, tell barAve about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 08:11.36 | jelly | ,v python-gevent |
| 08:11.36 | judd | Package: python-gevent on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.13.6-1+nmu3; jessie: 1.0.1-2; jessie-backports: 1.1.1-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.1.2-1; sid: 1.1.2-1 |
| 08:12.13 | jelly | barAve: have you run "aptitude update" or "apt-get update" recently |
| 08:12.55 | jelly | ,v python-gevent-socketio |
| 08:12.56 | judd | No package named 'python-gevent-socketio' was found in amd64. |
| 08:13.27 | jelly | barAve: ^^ this package does not seem to exist in Debian, are you sure the thing you're trying to install is built for wheezy? |
| 08:13.41 | barAve | i read ona web and followed steps |
| 08:14.20 | jelly | barAve: does vendor's web site explicitely say they support Debian 7 (wheezy)? |
| 08:15.23 | barAve | http://support.ajenti.org/topics/1116-installing-on-debian/ yes it does :o |
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| 08:17.47 | blackflow | barAve: you need Jessie at minimum for those two packages |
| 08:18.36 | blackflow | barAve: ignore, those are not python- ... |
| 08:18.43 | barAve | oh, anyone can suggest which free cpanel I can install on Debian Wheezy? |
| 08:19.11 | barAve | ty jelly and blackflow. |
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| 08:36.32 | jelly | barAve: I'd say report the issue to ajenti, with mention that their current script and package version cannot work on debian 7 |
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| 08:38.05 | barAve | oh sure i will do that to |
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| 08:38.46 | barAve | jelly, can you find me a free webhosting cpanel which will work on debian 7? it will be of great help (ive tried googling and unable to find one) |
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| 08:40.39 | petn-randall | !free whcp |
| 08:40.40 | dpkg | FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig> and <ispCP> Omega. Don't use <Webmin>. http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
| 08:40.42 | petn-randall | barAve: ^^^ |
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| 08:41.58 | barAve | ty randall |
| 08:42.03 | barAve | trying |
| 08:42.52 | yoyo_ | Hello everyone, Anyone can recommand me a Certificate Authority with certificates in *.domain.com with at least 3 years of availability ? |
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| 08:45.26 | strk | is PostgreSQL package known to be bogus in Debian GNU/Linux 8.7 (jessie) ? Service status is "active (exited)" and I cannot get it to start |
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| 08:45.56 | teraflops | yoyo_: wildcards and 3 years without renewal? prepare your wallet :D |
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| 08:46.39 | yoyo_ | It's for where i'm working |
| 08:46.56 | yoyo_ | For a company not for me |
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| 08:48.29 | teraflops | but 3 years... you'll be lucky if you don't have to request the certs in 3 years. as in go buy lottery |
| 08:50.13 | bezaban | max lifetime is being reduced to 2 years, but should be able to get 3 years for a while still |
| 08:50.47 | yoyo_ | being reduced |
| 08:50.52 | yoyo_ | When ? |
| 08:51.11 | yoyo_ | So 3 years is the max for now ? |
| 08:51.18 | bezaban | the ballot has passed, so probably within the year, but CAs may adapt to it earlier |
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| 08:52.27 | yoyo_ | Ok so you recommand me to take a 2 years cert maximum ? |
| 08:52.37 | teraflops | openssl not having a vulnerability in 3 years forcing you to request certs again looks very uncertain to me |
| 08:52.56 | petn-randall | yoyo_: I'd recommend using "let's encrypt", and only buy wildcard certificates if the project doesn't work without it. |
| 08:53.02 | yoyo_ | Hm I understand |
| 08:53.15 | bezaban | yoyo_: oh no, anything issued with 3 years validity will live for that long, but if you encounter someone who only offers 2 years you can shop around |
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| 08:54.19 | yoyo_ | I know letsencrypt but you have to have different certs for every fqdn |
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| 08:54.28 | teraflops | yoyo_: petn-randall had a point |
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| 08:55.26 | teraflops | yoyo_: you can't request a cert for the whole Internet... *.com |
| 08:55.28 | teraflops | lol |
| 08:55.28 | yoyo_ | petn-rendall ? |
| 08:55.45 | yoyo_ | lol |
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| 08:56.08 | yoyo_ | I'm saying for each subdomain of an *.example.com |
| 08:56.14 | bezaban | teraflops: although such certificates have been erroneously issued! |
| 08:56.21 | teraflops | hehe |
| 08:56.58 | bezaban | if domain validation is acceptable I would definately just automate it |
| 08:57.04 | xand | LE will issue certs with SANs |
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| 08:57.38 | teraflops | yoyo_: yeah I meant: do you really need wildcards? |
| 08:57.52 | bezaban | (also of course if the device in question supports LE) |
| 08:58.02 | petn-randall | yoyo_: Sure, but it does so nearly completely automated. |
| 08:58.03 | bezaban | s/LE/automatic provisioning/ |
| 08:58.29 | yoyo_ | what il LE ? |
| 08:58.34 | bezaban | LetsEncrypt :) |
| 08:58.34 | petn-randall | yoyo_: petn<tab> |
| 08:59.04 | yoyo_ | Ah ok |
| 08:59.28 | yoyo_ | petn ? |
| 08:59.32 | yoyo_ | ok bezaban |
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| 09:00.43 | yoyo_ | It's cool and free but when you have always to renew the certs every 3 months, and if there is an error during renewing, the website my be down.. |
| 09:00.45 | petn-randall | yoyo_: Seems like your client doesn't support tab completion. |
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| 09:01.20 | petn-randall | yoyo_: It renews it way before it runs out. And that's also what monitoring is for ... |
| 09:01.59 | yoyo_ | Oh sorry it's your nickname |
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| 09:03.03 | blackflow | yoyo_: I recommend "dehydrated", very nice client with no deps, easy to use and easy to automate renewal and deployment. |
| 09:03.37 | yoyo_ | Ok I'll see that, thanks man |
| 09:03.44 | yoyo_ | I'm going to... |
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| 09:04.17 | yoyo_ | It's for letsencrypt |
| 09:04.45 | blackflow | yes, it's a LE client |
| 09:05.49 | yoyo_ | Ok |
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| 09:22.45 | sn0wmonster | Q: I am trying to use tunneling properly with Debian, and i have an SSH session connected to another Debian VPS, |
| 09:23.02 | sn0wmonster | it shows the port locally as tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8080 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 28778/ssh |
| 09:23.30 | sn0wmonster | but when i try to set the firefox browser settings to connect to 127.0.0.1 port 8080 as socks5 proxy, it doesn't connect and says proxy refused connection |
| 09:23.47 | sn0wmonster | is this not the way to tunnel firefox traffic over the SSH tunnel? is there another way to do it? |
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| 09:24.39 | TomTomTo1 | you can do that. what's the command you used to connect ssh? |
| 09:25.04 | TomTomTo1 | and how did you set firefox to use the proxy? |
| 09:25.40 | sn0wmonster | i used: ssh -D 8080 user@host (where my username and host are the VPS login credentials). it asked for a password and i logged in okay |
| 09:25.55 | sn0wmonster | in firefox, i went to the connection settings and added 127.0.0.1 port 8080 as a socks5 proxy |
| 09:26.05 | xand | well that looks right to me |
| 09:27.10 | sn0wmonster | if it's supposed to work with just that, i guess it must be some iptables/firewall magic that is keeping it from working properly. will look into it some more. thank you |
| 09:27.35 | Doldge | I usually use something like the following `ssh user@host -R $LOCAL_PORT:127.0.0.1:$PORT_TO_FORWARD -L $LOCAL_PORT:127.0.0.1:$LOCAL_PORT`, but that may be over kill for what you're trying to do |
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| 09:28.05 | sn0wmonster | what does that do? |
| 09:28.28 | sn0wmonster | same thing basically? |
| 09:29.06 | sn0wmonster | what would "$PORT_TO_FORWARD" be? |
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| 09:30.36 | Doldge | `-R` forwards the remote port on the host to the local port on the client, and the `-L` forwards the local port on the client to the local port on the host. Usually $PORT_TO_FORWARD is the port I want to connect to on the remote end, so if it's a webserver running on the remote machine it would be port 80. |
| 09:31.15 | Doldge | that said, I don't think the use case quite matches what you're trying to do? |
| 09:32.24 | sn0wmonster | probably not, yea |
| 09:32.34 | sn0wmonster | i think i'm just going to go ahead and install dante server as a socks5 server or something |
| 09:32.38 | teraflops | he just want to use a socks proxy through ssh not redirecting a remote Web server to the local machine |
| 09:32.43 | sn0wmonster | i was just hoping this SSH tunnel would be "easier" |
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| 09:36.50 | strk | what does it take to start postgresql server, given service is listed as "active (exited)" ? |
| 09:37.04 | strk | and no logs are found either |
| 09:37.43 | strk | this is postgresql-common 180.pgdg80+1 |
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| 09:40.25 | blackflow | strk: that means the service is active |
| 09:40.41 | blackflow | systemctl status postgresql.service |
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| 09:43.02 | blackflow | strk: though that's the cluster unit file, you have to look at the specific version unit and service, eq. systemctl status postgresql@9.6-main.service |
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| 09:44.13 | strk | blackflow: that's inactive (dead) |
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| 09:44.46 | strk | attempts to start it still leave it in inactive (dead) state |
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| 09:44.59 | strk | I think an initialized cluster is just missing |
| 09:45.25 | strk | the /etc/postgresql directory is empty |
| 09:45.41 | strk | as well as the /var/lib/postgresql one |
| 09:45.44 | blackflow | right so you have to init it |
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| 09:46.11 | blackflow | also I don't know if the upstream packages differ from those on debian, as you're using the pgdg repo, right? |
| 09:46.50 | strk | right - I dont' remember having to do manual initialization with upstream packages indeed |
| 09:46.56 | petn-randall | strk: What does 'pg_lsclusters' tell you? |
| 09:46.57 | strk | maybe I'll just dump the pgdg ones |
| 09:47.19 | strk | Ver Cluster Port Status Owner Data directory Log file |
| 09:47.23 | strk | ^^ and nothing else |
| 09:47.43 | petn-randall | strk: That means there don't exist *any* clusters, online or otherwise. |
| 09:48.18 | petn-randall | strk: You need to create one with pg_createcluster. |
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| 09:55.35 | strk | yep, that fixes the service, thanks! |
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| 10:24.19 | BluesKaj | 'Morning all |
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| 10:36.09 | JyZyXEL | why doesn't package "ca-certificates" contain the root cert for Let's Encrypt? |
| 10:36.50 | FinalX | LE didn't have its own until not too long ago, I'm sure jessie was already released by then. Have you checked the package from the backports and/or stretch? |
| 10:37.21 | JyZyXEL | i assumed such package would be kept up-to-date via security? |
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| 10:37.45 | FinalX | how is that a security-fix? |
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| 10:37.51 | JyZyXEL | but you are right, the package is from 2014, so no wonder |
| 10:37.55 | FinalX | security is for bugfixes that are vulnerabilities :) |
| 10:38.00 | FinalX | not for additions |
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| 10:38.58 | FinalX | however, I'm using jessie with the stock ca-certificates and validating my LE hosts goes just fine (cross-signed cert). |
| 10:39.52 | FinalX | i.e. curl -vI https://finalx.org |
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| 10:40.46 | FinalX | so if your question was really just why their own native cert isn't in there.. that was the reason.. if you're wondering why validation isn't working for them, you might have to dig a bit deeper, because it's supposed to work |
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| 10:41.57 | JyZyXEL | so it should work with CA path set to /etc/ssl/certs? |
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| 10:44.22 | mender27 | Howdy! o/ |
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| 10:44.33 | petn-randall | JyZyXEL: If your client is throwing an error when connecting to your servers with LE cert, it might be because your server is not sending the whole certificate chain. |
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| 10:46.20 | JyZyXEL | petn-randall: ohhh, you are right! |
| 10:46.35 | petn-randall | JyZyXEL: :) |
| 10:46.36 | JyZyXEL | i left out the chain stuff from my apache conf because i didn't understand the meaning of it |
| 10:46.39 | petn-randall | has been there. |
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| 10:48.09 | JyZyXEL | it was because the "SSLCertificateKeyFile" directive is deprecated in Apache 2.4 |
| 10:48.18 | JyZyXEL | no i mean the "SSLCertificateChainFile" |
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| 10:50.11 | strk | packages for letsencrypt broken in Debian GNU/Linux 8.7 (jessie) ? |
| 10:50.20 | strk | I get: certbot : Depends: python-certbot (= 0.9.3-1~bpo8+2) but it is not going to be installed |
| 10:50.40 | strk | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:50.58 | mender27 | strk: something got mixed with jessie-backports? |
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| 10:51.19 | strk | possibly, python-acme : Depends: python-openssl (>= 0.15) but 0.14-1 is to be installed |
| 10:51.21 | TomTomTo1 | what's the whole command you used to install? probably forgot to pass -t jessie-backports |
| 10:51.36 | strk | I used: apt-get install certbot |
| 10:51.56 | TomTomTo1 | you need to pass -t jessie-backports if you install from backports. |
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| 10:52.05 | strk | -t jessie-backports helps indeed |
| 10:52.08 | mender27 | :0 |
| 10:52.55 | mender27 | strk: so now it worked? I had a similar issue with mainline nvidia-driver, though in my case it was a kernel package mismatch. |
| 10:53.19 | strk | yes, it worked, thanks |
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| 11:04.26 | strk | now I wonder why apache certbot plugin isn't recognized |
| 11:05.02 | strk | options-ssl-apache.conf is not in /etc/letsencrypt anymore |
| 11:05.08 | strk | but /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/certbot_apache/options-ssl-apache.conf |
| 11:05.11 | strk | is that expected ? |
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| 11:08.58 | carp_ | Hello. I have a dual boot machine; Debian and windows. When I switch from one to the other, the clock changes by one hour (british summer time). I cant figure out how to stop this from happening, does anyone have a tip please? |
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| 11:12.26 | Introoter | carp_: on debian, timedatectl set-ntp true |
| 11:13.06 | carp_ | Introoter: hello, is there a way to do this through the gui gnome 3? |
| 11:13.33 | carp_ | Introoter: i dont mind doing something with the command line but i dont understand your tip, (newb) |
| 11:14.03 | Introoter | you need to enable ntp, that'll sync your time automatically |
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| 11:14.27 | TomTomTo1 | carp_: your system clock is probably set tp utc, BST is UTC + 1. windows likes the system clock to be local time. windows can deal with utc, but that's a better question for a windows channel. ^^ |
| 11:14.33 | Introoter | you just need a shell to do it, so you can open terminal in gnome 3 and do that as root |
| 11:14.39 | TomTomTo1 | * set to |
| 11:15.42 | jelly | TomTomTo1: system clock is almost never set to utc on a windows machine, their defaults expect local tz |
| 11:16.27 | carp_ | ok guys thanks for the tips. Ill try some more. |
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| 11:18.08 | Introoter | carp_: you should see the time getting changed to the right one as soon as you enable ntp |
| 11:18.33 | TEX | If you have a Time Date Display on your Desktop you should be able to set it there |
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| 11:22.19 | TEX | carp: See this URL for setting NTP in Command line https://www.garron.me/en/linux/set-time-date-timezone-ntp-linux-shell-gnome-command-line.html |
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| 11:22.31 | carp_ | Introoter: Ah so the tip you are saying is to have the computer set the time using the internet. Thats fine I guess (but shouldnt really be necessary I suppose). The windows machine is NOT connected to the internet though. |
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| 11:23.38 | carp_ | TEX: thanks for the link. Im not sure I really want to have to use a network to set my time right now but I will bookmark that incase I have to. |
| 11:23.53 | TEX | np |
| 11:24.13 | _jd | Hi All, I need to install xvfb on my debian box 7 (wheezy), but if I do it using apt or aptitude I get a problem with libaudit0. Any suggestion? |
| 11:24.42 | TEX | Use Synaptic Package Manager |
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| 11:25.51 | _jd | TEX: Assuming that this was the answer to my question, I need to install it on a server, and I would prefer a solution without adding synaptic (if possible) |
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| 11:26.21 | TEX | That is the Best I have to offer |
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| 11:27.00 | _jd | Thanks |
| 11:27.12 | TEX | Google might be your next best resource |
| 11:27.15 | TEX | YW |
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| 11:29.01 | _jd | Ouch. I figured out. I'm out of free disk space (Google translate was a solution indeed). Non-English server language is not helpful :) |
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| 11:35.23 | elwisp | anyone know if its even possible to pair an iphone runnign latest ios on debian? |
| 11:35.37 | elwisp | i tried all the tricks in the book but i got the unhandled lockdown -3 error |
| 11:37.26 | TEX | elwisp, the only suggestion I have is to try Google Search |
| 11:37.52 | TEX | Google is Full of Answers |
| 11:38.09 | TEX | Most of the time.... |
| 11:38.12 | BluesKaj | elwisp: kdeconnect available for the iphone? |
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| 11:40.21 | TEX | elwisp: Youtube has alot of Good Info also |
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| 11:46.09 | colo-work | is there a way to find out what specific build-time options a Debian-provided binary was built with? |
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| 11:55.23 | missmbob | apt source foo; then look at debian/control file |
| 11:55.30 | missmbob | rules |
| 11:55.38 | missmbob | ugh |
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| 12:04.02 | HKitain | Hi. My employer wants to port Debian to our mipsel board. Is there a guide available on packaging your own images and on making your own kernel .debs? |
| 12:05.27 | petn-randall | HKitain: Did you test it yet? Maybe it already works out of the box. |
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| 12:07.54 | rgr | Has anyone managed to get latest chromium seeing an google cast devices on either Stable or Testing? Google-chrome-stable works fine BUT the shell integration doesn't work with Gnome. |
| 12:07.57 | HKitain | petn-randall, i mean, no. We need to package the kernel, we need to provide the DeviceTree files, and so on |
| 12:08.29 | TomTomTo1 | have a look at the kernel handbook, then. https://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-building |
| 12:08.47 | elwisp | i tried all the tricks om google |
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| 12:08.51 | elwisp | i figured it out tho |
| 12:08.54 | elwisp | just used the mac instead |
| 12:08.56 | elwisp | :) |
| 12:10.11 | petn-randall | HKitain: I see. For kernels usually the straight-forward way is to do 'make deb-pkg' after configuring the vanilla source. Do you already have a build-chain, and need a way how to bootstrap the devices with an image? |
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| 12:12.44 | HKitain | what do you mean by build-chain? |
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| 12:13.06 | HKitain | like, there's a cross-compilation toolchain that we build the whole shebang with |
| 12:14.21 | petn-randall | HKitain: You could ask in #debian-mips on irc.oftc.net, there are people who support the arch in debian. |
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| 12:15.45 | HKitain | i think what i want first and foremost is a guide on creating debian rootfs-es and packaging in debian |
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| 12:17.18 | petn-randall | !nmg |
| 12:17.18 | dpkg | The packaging tutorial (http://deb.li/QYyI) and the New Maintainer's Guide (http://deb.li/3DiDA) are good places to start learning about Debian packaging. You should also ask me about <devref> and <policy> to understand how packages should be maintained and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <best practices> <build without helper>. http://www.debian.org/devel/ |
| 12:17.28 | petn-randall | HKitain: ^^^ that might be a good primer. |
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| 12:18.39 | google77 | hi |
| 12:18.41 | HKitain | Thank you. |
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| 12:18.56 | google77 | any idea around when stretch will be relased? |
| 12:19.01 | petn-randall | !wwsr |
| 12:19.02 | dpkg | Well... it's starting to get distinctly chilly... Debian 9 "Stretch" will probably release in mid-2017. It will release sooner if you help fix bugs in stretch and sid... take that as a challenge. Ask me about <stretch freeze>, <how-can-i-help> https://udd.debian.org/bugs/ |
| 12:19.05 | google77 | a guesstimate is good enough |
| 12:19.13 | petn-randall | google77: ^^^ |
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| 12:22.33 | Elirips | google77: https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ Only 139 bugs to fix |
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| 12:35.18 | trialname | hey guys? |
| 12:35.32 | trialname | anyone here? |
| 12:36.05 | petn-randall | trialname: no, just 1200 zombies. |
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| 12:39.41 | OtakuSenpai | 1733 to be exact |
| 12:39.54 | BluesKaj | trialname: just ask your question |
| 12:40.30 | OtakuSenpai | guys is there a user config file which stores which desktop a user starts with upon login |
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| 12:40.51 | trialname | wtf is all this??? |
| 12:41.16 | OtakuSenpai | trialname: if your new to freenode,head to #freenode |
| 12:41.27 | BluesKaj | trialname: it's called debian support |
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| 12:41.37 | trialname | okay... |
| 12:41.40 | trialname | and? |
| 12:42.04 | BluesKaj | and what? |
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| 12:42.52 | trialname | how am i supposed to do that if i am new to all this? |
| 12:42.55 | nkuttler | OtakuSenpai: probably depends on the dm where it stores the session type |
| 12:43.06 | BluesKaj | !debian | trialname |
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| 12:43.18 | tw | OtakuSenpai: like .xsession ? |
| 12:43.28 | BluesKaj | ok no infobot for debian |
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| 12:43.32 | nkuttler | OtakuSenpai: yeah, i just use an ~/.xsession |
| 12:43.42 | nkuttler | BluesKaj: you just don't know how to use it |
| 12:44.01 | trialname | .xsession ? |
| 12:44.03 | OtakuSenpai | nkuttler: suppose i create a new user and hav gnome started with when i first login to it...is there a way to make sure tht new user logins with i3 everytime i login to it |
| 12:44.22 | nkuttler | trialname: do you have a debian question we can help you with? |
| 12:44.27 | OtakuSenpai | ok ill see ~/.xsession |
| 12:44.34 | petn-randall | trialname: Type /join #freenode |
| 12:44.41 | BluesKaj | I guess the infobot is different than the one I'm used to |
| 12:44.46 | nkuttler | OtakuSenpai: yeah, xsession, and pick X session or whatever it's called in the dm |
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| 12:45.03 | trialname | nkuttler: nah... just roaming around? |
| 12:45.04 | OtakuSenpai | ok |
| 12:45.15 | trialname | thanks petn-randall |
| 12:45.25 | trialname | :D |
| 12:45.29 | trialname | quit |
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| 12:54.11 | OtakuSenpai | guys where is ~/.xsession config located,i couldnt find it in the home directory of my newly created user |
| 12:54.21 | OtakuSenpai | or do i hav to make it? |
| 12:54.51 | petn-randall | OtakuSenpai: I don't have it. Who/what says you need it? |
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| 12:55.37 | OtakuSenpai | petn-randall: i want i3 to start upon my login to a particular user |
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| 12:56.24 | OtakuSenpai | so i thought maybe use the .xsessions file to start i3 automatically upon login to the user |
| 12:56.29 | petn-randall | OtakuSenpai: Doesn't your display manager take care of that? |
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| 12:56.54 | OtakuSenpai | petn-randall: cant i make my own? |
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| 12:59.17 | petn-randall | OtakuSenpai: There's nothing wrong taking the long route, but the easiest way to get a working i3 login is by installing a displaymanager like lightdm. |
| 12:59.30 | OtakuSenpai | ok |
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| 13:59.03 | smdrz | any issue when upgrading from jessie to stretch? |
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| 13:59.24 | jhutchins_wk | !jessie->stretch |
| 13:59.25 | greycat | You tell us. Did you have any? |
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| 13:59.40 | greycat | bot still has that bug, eh... |
| 13:59.49 | greycat | dpkg jessie->stretch |
| 13:59.49 | dpkg | Remember that Debian 9 "Stretch" is still pre-release and that security support will not always be timely. Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <stretch release notes> http://deb.li/ipf4z . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "jessie" to "stretch". apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. |
| 14:00.37 | jhutchins_wk | I believe they were finalizing the release notes last week, so we're close. |
| 14:01.17 | Hyp3ri0n | it worked guys |
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| 14:33.15 | gre | hi guys |
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| 14:34.11 | gre | first time i meet this issue but when im using "tab" i receive an error msg about temporary file, no space available etc |
| 14:34.22 | gre | any idea? thx |
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| 14:34.58 | gre | "cannot create a temporary file for the "here-document" |
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| 14:35.36 | greycat | You've either got no space in /tmp, or no write permissions, or you've set the TMPDIR variable to somewhere that one of those things is true. |
| 14:35.46 | greycat | Or maybe it's /var/tmp by default, who knows. |
| 14:35.56 | gre | how can i know that pls? |
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| 14:36.11 | greycat | ls -ld /tmp /var/tmp ; df /tmp /var/tmp |
| 14:36.28 | gre | /dev/sda1 9480420 9464024 0 100% / |
| 14:36.31 | gre | yeah |
| 14:36.35 | gre | 100% |
| 14:36.42 | gre | mhh |
| 14:37.10 | gre | thats weird coz it was a fresh install |
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| 14:37.38 | gre | i did same installation on other computers and i never met this issue |
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| 14:37.51 | greycat | Find out where the unexpected space is being used. |
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| 14:39.10 | gre | ok going to make a new install |
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| 14:39.22 | gre | i don't have time to find where the matter is |
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| 14:39.29 | gre | ty greycat |
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| 14:47.28 | bmomjian | Jessie's version of bind (9.9.5-9+deb8u8-Debian) doesn't support CAA records, in my testing. Is that true? |
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| 14:48.52 | bmomjian | Seems CAA was only added in bind 9.6.6: https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-01210/0/BIND-9.9.6-Release-Notes.html |
| 14:49.00 | greycat | wonders how someone has time to reinstall from scratch but not time to look for unusually large files in the most likely places, given that a full reinstall takes, what, 15 minutes? 30 minutes? an hour? And looking for files is something you've been doing for your entire life as a sysadmin, so it takes, what, 2 minutes? |
| 14:49.53 | greycat | 9.9.6 and 9.6.6 are not the same thing, by the way |
| 14:50.08 | greycat | ,v bind9 |
| 14:50.09 | judd | Package: bind9 on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u10; wheezy-security: 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u15; wheezy-backports: 1:9.9.5.dfsg-4~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9+deb8u8; jessie-proposed-updates: 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9+deb8u10; jessie-security: 1:9.9.5.dfsg-9+deb8u10; stretch: 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.1; sid: 1:9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.1; experimental: 1:9.10.4-P5-1 |
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| 14:50.29 | bmomjian | sorry, typo, I meant it was added in 9.9.6. |
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| 14:51.12 | bmomjian | I am just surprised the most recent stable version of Debian doesn't support CAA. |
| 14:51.17 | greycat | OK, then if you need it, your choices are to build 9.9.6 yourself, or upgrade to stretch, or attempt a backport of the stretch deb-src. |
| 14:51.36 | greycat | Never heard of this thing. And the current stable release is 2 years old. |
| 14:51.37 | bmomjian | It is not a big deal, I was just assuming I missed something. |
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| 15:07.10 | CQ | hello, I get youtube videos freezing after about 5 seconds of buffering, and zero seconds playing... I had this issue before and thought I fixed it by killing pulseaudio, but that doesn't work now. aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav ...also just hangs |
| 15:07.13 | petn-randall | bmomjian: Once stable is released, it will only receive RC bugfixes, no feature updates. |
| 15:07.14 | CQ | any ideas? |
| 15:07.56 | CQ | running jessie Linux dnet64 4.8.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.8.15-2~bpo8+2 (2017-01-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 15:07.56 | petn-randall | CQ: Given that current browsers need pulseaudio to work, I'd assume killing it is part of the problem. |
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| 15:08.13 | CQ | petn-randall: well, if I reload the page, it restarts |
| 15:08.28 | CQ | this is using FF |
| 15:09.27 | CQ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:09.37 | CQ | ...that runs as soon as I hit play in FF |
| 15:11.35 | CQ | here is the syslog output http://paste.debian.net/927265/ |
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| 15:14.43 | CQ | fyi, just posted the pastebin to #pulseaudio and #alsa as well |
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| 15:18.00 | Iridos | well⦠in that case we'll leave it to them ^^ |
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| 15:19.52 | CQ | Iridos: I'm happy for any suggestions here as well... I can't think of other stuff to try. Those channels are very quiet :) |
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| 15:21.21 | Tsutsukakushi | hi, anyone here who has w3m images working on debian testing? |
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| 15:32.38 | nkuttler | Tsutsukakushi: images? what do you mean? |
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| 15:35.39 | teraflops | Tsutsukakushi: which terminal client? |
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| 15:42.03 | deavmi | You guys have converted me to a debianaut |
| 15:42.08 | deavmi | I love the netinstall |
| 15:42.18 | deavmi | I can actually get a machine to run with 200MB |
| 15:42.24 | deavmi | Now that is bloody great :) |
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| 15:43.18 | greycat | Jessie needs 80 MB. At 64 MB you need to stick with Wheezy. |
| 15:43.28 | greycat | (of RAM, that is) |
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| 15:44.01 | Tsutsukakushi | nkuttler: w3m can display images on the webpages |
| 15:44.01 | deavmi | 80 MB whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat |
| 15:44.04 | deavmi | My word |
| 15:44.06 | Tsutsukakushi | teraflops: on the console |
| 15:44.07 | deavmi | I should try that |
| 15:44.11 | teraflops | tty? |
| 15:44.21 | Tsutsukakushi | teraflops: works ootb on arch/parabola at least |
| 15:44.29 | Tsutsukakushi | yeah |
| 15:44.33 | deavmi | I am installing a machine now in a VM and once the install is done I want to see what I can get way with in terms of RAM |
| 15:44.37 | teraflops | Tsutsukakushi: install fbi and tell w3m to use it? |
| 15:44.41 | deavmi | greycat: Thanks for the valuable info !!! |
| 15:44.41 | Tsutsukakushi | agetty or whatever debian uses |
| 15:44.56 | Tsutsukakushi | that's for the external viewer |
| 15:45.05 | Tsutsukakushi | w3m can display images inline |
| 15:45.16 | Tsutsukakushi | there is no need for fbi |
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| 15:45.23 | Tsutsukakushi | also fbi is a shitty image viewer |
| 15:45.23 | teraflops | Tsutsukakushi: I never used on tty, but it works fine inside xorg |
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| 15:45.28 | Tsutsukakushi | requires X for fonts and shit |
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| 15:45.38 | Tsutsukakushi | fbv is a lot better standalone image viewer |
| 15:45.41 | teraflops | so much shit⦠|
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| 15:45.53 | Tsutsukakushi | yes |
| 15:46.00 | Tsutsukakushi | there is no reason for it to need aliased fonts |
| 15:46.42 | Tsutsukakushi | but at least you the answer to my question seems to be "no" |
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| 15:47.31 | teraflops | did I? |
| 15:47.37 | teraflops | Tsutsukakushi: so do you have framebuffer or similar? |
| 15:47.52 | Tsutsukakushi | framebuffer works fine |
| 15:47.59 | Tsutsukakushi | and permissions are correct |
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| 16:01.50 | boxrick1 | When specifying a "direct" parameter in apt config, lets say my repo is http://repo.mirror.test.com, can the direct command be to test.com ? |
| 16:02.01 | boxrick1 | or does it need to be the fqdn? |
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| 16:03.06 | petn-randall | knows of no direct parameter. |
| 16:03.16 | petn-randall | boxrick1: Care to share what you set and where? |
| 16:03.45 | boxrick1 | http://askubuntu.com/questions/92764/disable-proxy-server-for-one-apt-repository <--- |
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| 16:04.26 | boxrick1 | Or am I wrong in thinking thats going to work on debian |
| 16:04.38 | petn-randall | boxrick1: Did you check in the man page? |
| 16:05.16 | petn-randall | The one on the respective system. That's probably the first thing I'd look for. |
| 16:05.39 | boxrick1 | I will go have a look. Probably best place to start as you say |
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| 16:07.00 | kruug | Where would I find `dbus-c++`? I'm looking to softlink it to `dbus-cpp`. |
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| 16:08.19 | teraflops | Tsutsukakushi: I think you do not need framebuffer anymore |
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| 16:09.03 | Tsutsukakushi | why not? |
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| 16:09.14 | n4dir | boxrick1: apt-cache search dbus-c++ --names-only ; doesn't offer it? |
| 16:09.29 | teraflops | Tsutsukakushi: testing in a vm (tty, no xorg) https://ptpb.pw/UWhN.png |
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| 16:10.23 | teraflops | awesome goats btw :P |
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| 16:10.40 | Tsutsukakushi | yyes, that's drawing on the framebuffer |
| 16:10.45 | Tsutsukakushi | i believe |
| 16:10.49 | teraflops | Tsutsukakushi: no fb there |
| 16:10.57 | Tsutsukakushi | then what is it drawing on |
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| 16:11.24 | Tsutsukakushi | it probably virtualizes something that it can draw on |
| 16:11.29 | kruug | n4dir: was that towards me? |
| 16:11.33 | Tsutsukakushi | not applicable to real hardware |
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| 16:11.40 | teraflops | Tsutsukakushi: hmm, not sure |
| 16:11.59 | teraflops | Tsutsukakushi: I do not have a real debian install here though |
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| 16:13.37 | n4dir | kruug: yes, sorry. i was confused, it seems. |
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| 16:14.30 | kruug | I have `dbus-c++` installed, but the `cmake` is hard-coded to `dbus-cpp`. I want to softlink `dbus-c++` -> `dbus-cpp`. |
| 16:15.47 | CQ | which package contains the 'alsa' executable? |
| 16:17.17 | mutante | CQ: you can use "apt-file" to find out which package has a certain file |
| 16:17.32 | CQ | mutante: thanks, installing and updating it now |
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| 16:17.59 | mutante | apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update ; apt-file search alsa .. .i think |
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| 16:19.58 | offshore | how do i set the dns servers to persist in my configuration? i have tried to set them in /etc/network/interfaces but i always get a local lan address to resolv.conf. |
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| 16:25.37 | petn-randall | offshore: Are you using DHCP? |
| 16:25.55 | offshore | yes |
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| 16:26.44 | petn-randall | offshore: Then they usually come from your DHCP server. /etc/network/interfaces doesn't offer a way to override it when using dhcp. |
| 16:26.53 | petn-randall | *method dhcp |
| 16:27.19 | petn-randall | offshore: So either fix your DHCP server, or you can use network-manager, where you can override this setting. |
| 16:27.20 | offshore | is there a way to override them? |
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| 16:32.36 | kruug | I have `dbus-c++` installed, but the `cmake` is hard-coded to `dbus-cpp`. I want to softlink `dbus-c++` -> `dbus-cpp`. I don't really want to go through the other projects code and ensure I've fixed every reference. What is the absolute path to `dbus-c++`? Or, how could I find out? |
| 16:32.46 | kruug | using `which dbus-c++` did nothing. |
| 16:33.05 | greycat | kruug: what does "which dbus-cpp" say? |
| 16:33.31 | kruug | greycat: it says " " |
| 16:33.56 | greycat | So you don't actually have dbus-cpp in your PATH either. I don't know what you expect cmake to do, then. |
| 16:34.01 | kruug | Which I would expect, as Debian doesn't have dbus-cpp |
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| 16:34.24 | greycat | Oh wait, you 100% reversed the symlink. |
| 16:34.42 | greycat | You ACTUALLY want to symlink dbus-cpp -> dbus-c++, right? |
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| 16:35.05 | kruug | sure. I'm not familiar with symlink syntax, but if that sounds more like the end result, we'll go with it :) |
| 16:35.18 | greycat | So, what does "which dbus-c++" say? |
| 16:35.27 | kruug | greycat: " " |
| 16:35.45 | kruug | Installed the package `libdbus-c++-dev` |
| 16:35.46 | greycat | What command is cmake trying to execute? |
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| 16:35.50 | greycat | That's a lib. |
| 16:36.12 | greycat | Let's start over. What error are you seeing? |
| 16:37.01 | kruug | `Checking for module 'dbus-cpp' No package 'dbus-cpp' found` |
| 16:38.00 | greycat | So they're talking about modules and packages, not commands. |
| 16:38.38 | greycat | Is there any way you can convince cmake to give you more verbose errors, showing what it tried to do, and what failed, and why? |
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| 16:39.07 | kruug | Well, it wrote CMakeOutput.log and CMakeError.log |
| 16:39.11 | kruug | I can pastebin them... |
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| 16:42.59 | kruug | greycat: CMakeError.log ==> http://paste.debian.net/927286 |
| 16:43.41 | ledoktre | Greetings all! I have an unusual issue Im dealing with right now. I have a box fresh loaded with Jessie and a Avago raid card with a pair of 500GB Intel SSD drives. Works beautifully. I decided to add a single spinning drive to the on board SATA connectors for another purpose, and I find every time I mount it, the hard drive light keeps flashing constantly and I can hear it seeking. If I unmount it, the system is as I would expect it - quiet except for |
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| 16:43.58 | kruug | greycat: CMakeOutput.log ==> https://paste.debian.net/927287 |
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| 16:44.22 | ledoktre | Done this 100s of times and its not acting in a way I would expect. |
| 16:45.09 | petn-randall | ledoktre: I'm guessing you've recently created an ext4 filesystem on it? |
| 16:45.36 | ledoktre | petn-randall : yes, when i added it |
| 16:45.45 | ledoktre | its GPT - a 4tb drive |
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| 16:47.05 | petn-randall | ledoktre: ext4 has a feature called lazy inode initialization which causes them to be created when mounted. That's what you're probably seeing. |
| 16:47.46 | petn-randall | ledoktre: The advantage is that it cuts down formatting significantly, and hardly affects performance when mounted. |
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| 16:48.35 | greycat | kruug: That error is beyond me. You may have to ask the support channel (or mailing list or whatever) for the maintainers of this thing you are trying to build. |
| 16:48.58 | ledoktre | petn-randall: makes sense. so if I am gathering what you are saying then, if I leave it for a while, it will likely finish formatting and settle down? |
| 16:49.19 | petn-randall | ledoktre: Yes, it'll take a few hours though because it never uses full I/O. |
| 16:49.20 | ledoktre | initializing inodes |
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| 16:49.36 | ledoktre | any way to verify that that is indeed whats going on, i.e. iostat etc? |
| 16:50.16 | kruug | greycat: haha...looked at their PR's, and they have one for non-Ubuntu! https://github.com/anbox/anbox/pull/29 |
| 16:50.28 | petn-randall | ledoktre: sure, iotop should show a kernel thread (forgot which name it'll exactly show up as) working on that device. |
| 16:51.51 | ledoktre | petn-randall : checking it out! Thanks. With the info you gave me, I just found this link too : http://www.hecticgeek.com/2015/01/ext4-external-hard-disk-busy-at-idle-fix/ |
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| 16:52.59 | petn-randall | ledoktre: Yeah, that's it. It's a one-time thing, though. Once they're initialized, you won't see any activity anymore. |
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| 16:55.58 | ledoktre | petn-randall: thanks for the help. its weird I never noticed it before or read about it before for that matter. Ive certainly partitioned and mounted plenty of drives. |
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| 17:00.19 | ledoktre | petn-randall: I just used the command in that article to manually format the partition, and you are right. took a bit longer,but it is quiet now when mounted. TY! |
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| 17:12.53 | petn-randall | ledoktre: You're welcome! |
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| 17:17.38 | Trieste | hi, I've just installed libpam-google-authenticator and I'd like to set it up so that my key and the TOTP is required, but all I ever accomplished was either that I can login with just my key, or that the ssh client asks me for a password (which I don't want and even can't enter, as it's disabled in sshd_config) - any ideas? Thank you! |
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| 17:22.16 | Enrico_Menotti | Trieste Are you from that city? |
| 17:22.31 | Trieste | Enrico_Menotti: nah |
| 17:23.00 | Enrico_Menotti | Ah sorry. You know, it's an Italian city I know well. |
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| 17:26.58 | Enrico_Menotti | I am a bit in a trouble with the keyboard setup (in Jessie). I refer to an embedded porting, to the Nokia N900. I have been able to set up the N900 keyboard by editing /etc/default/keyboard. I've set XKBMODEL="nokiarx51" and XKBLAYOUT="it". This allows Italian keys to be used. But I'd need some special characters: |, ~, escape, etc. I tried editing /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51, but nothing seems to |
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| 17:27.40 | Trieste | and I've just found an exact SO answer to help me |
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| 17:27.45 | Trieste | Enrico_Menotti: btw it's kind of a funny story, I used to travel around when I was really young, and it must've impressed on me, because by the time I was choosing this nick I had no idea it was the name of a city, it just sounded nice :) |
| 17:28.57 | Enrico_Menotti | :) |
| 17:29.49 | mutante | it's a really tasty cake too |
| 17:30.08 | Enrico_Menotti | It's a nice city. I lived there for some time. It's on the sea, with a nice large square ending on the seaside. |
| 17:30.54 | Trieste | the castle is really beautiful too |
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| 17:31.08 | Enrico_Menotti | Miramare! |
| 17:31.30 | mutante | Trieste: https://www.google.com/search?q=Triester+Torte&source=lnms&tbm=isch |
| 17:32.08 | Enrico_Menotti | mutante That's not the name of the cake! The cake's name is "Sacher". |
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| 17:32.32 | Enrico_Menotti | It's an Austrian cake. Also much used in Trieste, since Trieste used to belong to the Austrian Empire. |
| 17:33.09 | mutante | Enrico_Menotti: oh, i didnt realize they were the same cake then. somehow i thought Sacher is with cream |
| 17:33.37 | mutante | anyways, it tastes really good |
| 17:34.43 | Enrico_Menotti | Yes, that's true. Sacher is not necessarily with cream. But they use to eat it together with that, yes. |
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| 18:20.35 | Bl4ckC0r3 | Hi all |
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| 18:51.43 | greycat | Apr 10 16:28:45 wooledg systemd[1]: Starting NFS server and services... |
| 18:51.43 | greycat | Apr 10 16:28:45 wooledg exportfs[516]: exportfs: Failed to resolve ebase |
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| 18:52.03 | greycat | glares |
| 18:52.28 | greycat | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 138 Apr 10 10:12 /etc/resolv.conf |
| 18:52.36 | greycat | So... uh... WHY |
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| 18:54.31 | somiaj | greycat: not an issue with /etc permisions? This isn't the same machine that told you /dev/fb0 didn't exist even though it did? |
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| 18:55.21 | greycat | somiaj: the /dev/fb0 thing was because /var/log/Xorg.0.log was stale. The current Xorg.0.log is in ~wooledg/.local/share/something |
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| 18:55.42 | greycat | The one in /var/log/Xorg.0.log was from my *first* try to run startx, as root, just to see if it would work at all. |
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| 18:56.27 | somiaj | greycat: oh yea, forgot about the no setuid xorg issue there. |
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| 18:58.37 | somiaj | greycat: does this just fail to work at boot, if you say disable the service but manually run it after boot does it work, so there is some timing issue during the startup? |
| 18:58.47 | somiaj | (the nfs issue) |
| 18:59.04 | greycat | I haven't rebooted in over a day to see if it's consistent. |
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| 18:59.45 | greycat | I re-ran "exportfs -a" and it works fine. It's just some weird issue with DNS not working at the time nfs-kernel-server is started during boot. |
| 19:02.04 | greycat | https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=59239 looks like the same problem |
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| 19:05.01 | somiaj | yea, I've seen a few other similar issues with systemd and the 'network is ready' dependency, but unsure how to debug/deal with it |
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| 19:09.53 | Lope | I've setup unbound as a DNS Cache on an office LAN to improve DNS query performance. I see that disabling DNSSEC makes DNS queries a lot faster. It doesn't seem to cache stuff that fails or doesn't provide DNSSEC stuff, which means using it is very inconvenient (extra delays all the time). Any comments? |
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| 19:12.19 | greycat | tries creating /etc/systemd/system/nfs-kernel-server.d/waitlonger but is not going to reboot immediately to test it |
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| 19:44.08 | greycat | Damn. Rebooted, and once again I have "exportfs: Failed to resolve ..." from nfs-kernel-server. |
| 19:45.47 | jhutchins_wk | greycat: hosts file? |
| 19:46.35 | greycat | I do not want to have to put these hosts and IPs into the /etc/hosts file. That is stupid and is not the correct solution. |
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| 19:49.19 | jhutchins_wk | RedHat suggests NETWORKWAIT=yes in /etc/sysconfig/network, not sure what the equivalent is in Debian. |
| 19:49.29 | jhutchins_wk | Appears to be a systemd artifact. |
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| 19:50.08 | greycat | AND it's back to clearing the fucking consoles every time I log out, even after I follow the steps that are supposed to stop that. :( |
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| 19:50.14 | somiaj | greycat: what does the AFTER= line say in the unit file for nfs? |
| 19:50.32 | greycat | In the stretch one, or in my local override, or both? |
| 19:51.11 | somiaj | in the one that is starting to soon and failing to bring up the mount |
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| 19:52.19 | greycat | http://wooledge.org/~greg/paste/16 |
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| 19:53.17 | greycat | Refresh, added the whole /etc/systemd/system/nfs-kernel-server.service.d/waitlonger file. |
| 19:53.51 | somiaj | still trying to get more familar with systemd, but http://serverfault.com/questions/812584/in-systemd-whats-the-difference-between-after-and-requires may have some hints, to control the order. |
| 19:54.02 | greycat | Why is elinks not showing the [Unit] line... oh god, no, no more recursive problems. |
| 19:54.40 | somiaj | I also saw a kinda hackish fix, you can use the Restart=always\nRestartSec=10 to have the unit restart if it fails every 10 seconds. |
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| 19:55.38 | greycat | Hmm, it's not showing up in systemctl show nfs-kernel-server | grep After |
| 19:55.53 | greycat | let's try going back to nfs-kernel-server.d instead of nfs-kernel-server.service.d |
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| 20:00.30 | ewew | Hi. Is there a reason for pc speaker to beep without reason ? Is there a cause that this can happen ? What does it mean ? |
| 20:01.34 | alekz | ewew: you have more details? |
| 20:02.00 | JPT | You can blacklist the pcspkr module |
| 20:02.11 | JPT | lsmod | grep spkr should show it |
| 20:02.26 | ewew | it happens withou a obvious reason. |
| 20:02.27 | jhutchins_wk | ewew: Some BIOSes will give thermal warnings by beeping. There's usually a pattern. |
| 20:02.28 | somiaj | ewew: in many cases a shell will beep if you have an error, such as trying to delete when you are at the start of the lnie, etc |
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| 20:03.02 | somiaj | yea, if you disable the pcspkr module and it still beeps, it is something the bios is doing to inform you. |
| 20:03.18 | somiaj | if disable the module stops it from beeping, there is some program running calling the beeps |
| 20:03.20 | ewew | its not overheating, the rpm is about 700 RPM |
| 20:03.38 | ewew | it just beeps few times and then nothing. |
| 20:04.03 | ewew | i suspect a hack though ssh on vps. |
| 20:04.18 | alekz | turn off the system bell |
| 20:04.46 | alekz | set bell-style none - /etc/inputrc |
| 20:04.51 | alekz | I think |
| 20:05.42 | somiaj | you can also use ~/.inputrc for just the user. I do that on my sheels as I get tired of them beeping at me |
| 20:06.29 | ewew | and i increased the logging verbosity. |
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| 20:07.49 | KaffeeJunky123 | Are questions about stretch allowed in here? |
| 20:07.56 | alekz | they are |
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| 20:08.05 | KaffeeJunky123 | ^_^ |
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| 20:08.41 | KaffeeJunky123 | Ever since I installed the nivida graphics drivers on stretch, I cannot access the terminal sessions with the ctr+alt+fx combinations |
| 20:09.03 | greycat | foo.service.d/ may exist. All files with the suffix ".conf" from this directory will be parsed after the file itself is parsed. |
| 20:09.07 | greycat | *sigh* |
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| 20:09.23 | ewew | can a NMI interrupt beep like this ? |
| 20:09.36 | KaffeeJunky123 | And gdm3 should start in Xorg mode by default if you install the nvidia-drivers package :< |
| 20:09.43 | somiaj | KaffeeJunky123: using efi or legacy boot? But this has been a common issue with the non-free drivers, and are you using a framebuffer? |
| 20:09.48 | KaffeeJunky123 | somiaj: uefi |
| 20:10.11 | KaffeeJunky123 | somiaj: my monitors are connected to an nvidia gpu |
| 20:10.26 | KaffeeJunky123 | somiaj: do you want to see my xorg.conf? |
| 20:10.34 | somiaj | KaffeeJunky123: so uefi will setup a default kms module it uses from the efi stuff at boot for the console, this seems to have some conflict with the nvidia kernel module sometimes making switching to a console and back from xorg not work. |
| 20:10.39 | somiaj | KaffeeJunky123: if you want to share it |
| 20:11.50 | greycat | OK, that fixed the console-clearing at least.... |
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| 20:12.24 | ewew | should it try to set system to panic on nmi ? |
| 20:12.26 | somiaj | always a pain to figure out something new, and find your self deeper into the rabit hole. |
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| 20:13.00 | KaffeeJunky123 | https://pastebin.com/kdMbDjFz this is my xorg.conf |
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| 20:13.26 | KaffeeJunky123 | somiaj: is there some workaround? |
| 20:13.51 | somiaj | KaffeeJunky123: did you generate this config file, do you really need all those options? |
| 20:14.27 | somiaj | in general lines 41-46 are all you should need, and on stretch, this should be added automatically when you install the nvidia driver and not be needed anymore. |
| 20:15.17 | somiaj | KaffeeJunky123: all I can tell you is on my 770GTX, with only using lines 41-46 in my xorg.conf file I can switch between consoles just fine with the non-free driver, but I cannot quit xorg without crashing my consoles and having to ssh in to reboot |
| 20:15.41 | somiaj | so I too have trouble with text consoles, uefi and nvidia in stretch. I think this is one of the drawbacks with the non-free driver. I just avoid using a console and use xterm instead. |
| 20:16.29 | KaffeeJunky123 | somiaj: I'll try nomodeset |
| 20:16.33 | KaffeeJunky123 | brb |
| 20:16.42 | somiaj | you most likely don't want to disable modesetting |
| 20:17.08 | somiaj | I also don't think you can fully disable it with uefi, as modesetting is what is used to get a display with uefi |
| 20:17.23 | KaffeeJunky123 | we'll |
| 20:17.28 | KaffeeJunky123 | see |
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| 20:19.24 | KaffeeJunky123 | okay disabling kms didn't fix it |
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| 20:19.46 | KaffeeJunky123 | or do I have to execute update-initramfs for that take effect? |
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| 20:32.28 | newlinux | Hi people, I cant boot to my linux because the screen says "Not Optimum mode. Recommended mode 1920 x 1080 60Hz" .. What should I do? |
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| 20:35.43 | newlinux | anyone? |
| 20:35.54 | KaffeeJunky123 | newlinux: what kind of graphics card are you useing? |
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| 20:37.40 | newlinux | KaffeJunky123: ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 Strix OC 6GB |
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| 20:37.49 | greycat | ... OK. It turns out /lib/systemd/system/nfs-kernel-server.service is A SYMLINK to another unit file. |
| 20:37.55 | greycat | And apparently that MATTERS. |
| 20:38.10 | KaffeeJunky123 | newlinux: what drivers do you have installed? |
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| 20:38.39 | newlinux | KafeeJunky123: None, Fresh debian install. I cant go into the linux because of the message on screen. |
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| 20:39.53 | newlinux | KaffeeJunky123: The thing is, Im using encryption with LVM. After I enter the password the message on screen appears. |
| 20:39.55 | KaffeeJunky123 | is the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau package installed |
| 20:39.57 | greycat | ... still didn't fix the underlying DNS failure problem :( |
| 20:40.22 | newlinux | KaffeeJunky123: I think so, I installed it with KDE. |
| 20:40.37 | andai | trying to get a graphical desktop setup on a cheap (openVZ) vps.. there's no FUSE support so almost every time I try to install packages i get fuse errors |
| 20:40.56 | andai | everything (that i'm using) works fine when i download and install the packages manually, so is there a way to tell apt to stop worrying about fuse and giving up? |
| 20:41.17 | nkuttler | andai: why do you need a gui on a vps? |
| 20:41.48 | nkuttler | andai: and try lsmod | grep fuse |
| 20:41.57 | andai | nkuttler: a few months ago the answer would have been that I couldn't afford to buy a new computer so i was working from my phone |
| 20:41.58 | KaffeeJunky123 | newlinux: can you try installing the nvidia-driver package? |
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| 20:42.32 | newlinux | KaffeeJunky123: How? |
| 20:42.36 | andai | nkuttler: right now I'm trying to setup a streaming server with VLC.. I'll probably end up using cli tools after a few more hours of research |
| 20:42.45 | KaffeeJunky123 | newlinux: you boot into rescue mode |
| 20:42.58 | andai | nkuttler: the lsmod is silent |
| 20:43.01 | nkuttler | andai: afaik vlc works fine from the command line |
| 20:43.01 | KaffeeJunky123 | newlinux: login as root and then to apt install nvidia-driver |
| 20:43.11 | nkuttler | andai: sounds like your kernel has no fuse, try modprobe fuse though |
| 20:43.13 | andai | nkuttler: my VPS provider explicitly states there is no FUSE support |
| 20:43.14 | newlinux | KaffeeJunky123: How do I boot into rescue mode? |
| 20:43.19 | nkuttler | andai: there you go |
| 20:43.24 | andai | nkuttler: right, and I don't need it either |
| 20:43.32 | newlinux | KaffeeJunky123: Recovery mode? |
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| 20:43.33 | KaffeeJunky123 | newlinux: there's an option in the grub boot menue for it |
| 20:43.40 | KaffeeJunky123 | yep recovery mode |
| 20:44.01 | andai | nkuttler: my question was, if a dependency is unmet, and everything works fine without it, is there a more convenient way to tell apt to install things without that dependency, rather than apt-get download all the packages and force install them? |
| 20:44.09 | andai | something like apt-get ignore fuse |
| 20:44.14 | andai | apt-get don't-worry-about-it |
| 20:44.33 | nkuttler | andai: not afaik |
| 20:44.41 | jhutchins_wk | and there's a way to do a "fake" install so that apt thinks the package is there when it's not. |
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| 20:45.03 | andai | nkuttler: alright, that level of pain in the ass is enough for me to upgrade to a VPS with FUSE lol |
| 20:45.06 | missmbob | !equivs |
| 20:45.06 | dpkg | equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell <apt> you really have installed (through some other means) the package. aptitude install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, see also <usrlocal>. A better plan is often to adapt the Debian packages to your needs, ask me about <package recompile> <uupdate> <ssb>. |
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| 20:45.24 | newlinux | KaffeeJunky123: It stops after, fb: switching to nouveaufb from EFI VGA, and then nothing is happning. |
| 20:46.05 | KaffeeJunky123 | newlinux: that's bad yo |
| 20:46.19 | jhutchins_wk | missmbob: Thanks. |
| 20:46.22 | newlinux | KaffeeJunky123: Why? :) |
| 20:46.37 | KaffeeJunky123 | newlinux: well, you don't get a working shell that way do you? |
| 20:46.53 | newlinux | KaffeeJunky123: Not really. So what should I do really? |
| 20:47.01 | KaffeeJunky123 | newlinux: you could try to chroot from the installer |
| 20:47.11 | andai | nkuttler: Ahhh! Stackoverflow to the rescue. You can put a minus at the end of packages to not-install... "apt-get install vlc fuse-" |
| 20:47.13 | KaffeeJunky123 | the installer has a rescue mode boot option |
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| 20:47.19 | KaffeeJunky123 | you can select a root drive |
| 20:47.22 | KaffeeJunky123 | and then chroot into it |
| 20:47.24 | jhutchins_wk | newlinux: I think that message is actually from your monitor complaining that it doesn't like the resolution the GPU is trying to use. |
| 20:47.41 | KaffeeJunky123 | establish a netwrok cernecction and apt install nvidia-driver |
| 20:47.48 | jhutchins_wk | newlinux: You may be able to find a setting in the menus on the monitor to allow non-optional resolutions. |
| 20:48.17 | KaffeeJunky123 | jhutchins_wk: weird, never had that happen to me |
| 20:48.22 | jhutchins_wk | vaguely remembers having to do that a while ago. |
| 20:48.27 | KaffeeJunky123 | xorg usually auto detects support resolutions |
| 20:48.40 | KaffeeJunky123 | *supperrted reserloutoons |
| 20:48.56 | KaffeeJunky123 | Trying to fix spelling only nmakes it worse... |
| 20:49.21 | newlinux | jhutchins_wk: Picture Size Auto dont help |
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| 20:51.36 | newlinux | KaffeeJunky123: So I have to boot from USB, Im right? |
| 20:51.46 | jhutchins_wk | There's a lot of hardware out there that won't do 1920 x 1080, and even those that can might default to the VESA driver which won't. |
| 20:52.42 | KaffeeJunky123 | newlinux: usb or dvd or cd or whatever bootable thingy you have at hand |
| 20:52.53 | KaffeeJunky123 | I mean, you can boot netinst over pxe |
| 20:52.57 | KaffeeJunky123 | no probelm |
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| 20:54.51 | newlinux | jhutchins_wk: the option menu on monitor even greyed out after boot |
| 20:55.57 | Bl4ckC0r3 | I`m back |
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| 20:57.35 | jhutchins_wk | If that's the case, change the options without a signal. |
| 20:58.20 | newlinux | KaffeJunky123: Rescue mode or 64 bit rescue mode? |
| 20:58.43 | newlinux | jhutchins_wk: How to do that? |
| 20:59.35 | KaffeeJunky123 | newlinux: shouldn't make a difference, it's best to use the arch you installed in thou |
| 21:00.04 | greycat | files two bug reports, gives up for now, and leaves the thing booted so he can do something other than bang his head against systemd/nfs-server |
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| 21:00.58 | KaffeeJunky123 | greycat: what's wrong with systemd? |
| 21:01.36 | newlinux | KaffeeJunky123: I dont get it? |
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| 21:01.47 | greycat | Well, my bug report will reveal my ignorance. I was creating a drop-in unit file thingy for an *alias* of a service. Instead of the true service. |
| 21:01.56 | greycat | Turns out you can't do that. |
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| 21:02.09 | greycat | Also turns out that they made the true name of the servier |
| 21:02.13 | KaffeeJunky123 | newlinux: if you used the 64bit installer to install your debian you should also use that to boot the rescue system |
| 21:02.26 | KaffeeJunky123 | same for 32bit |
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| 21:02.30 | greycat | Also turns out that they made the true name of the service (nfs-server) DIFFERENT from the name of the package that has been its implementation for 10+ years (nfs-kernel-server). |
| 21:03.03 | greycat | Just to confuse me, I am certain. |
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| 21:03.21 | KaffeeJunky123 | greycat: dont forget that they changed the network devices naming sheme :D |
| 21:04.07 | newlinux | KaffeJunky123: So what do I do now? Install NVIDA drivers right? How do I do that? |
| 21:04.33 | hpar_ | how can I check hard drive speed? |
| 21:04.35 | KaffeeJunky123 | newlinux: gimme a sec |
| 21:04.42 | newlinux | sure |
| 21:05.04 | newlinux | Maybe I could change resolution somehow also? |
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| 21:05.12 | newlinux | So the monitor works? |
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| 21:07.19 | newlinux | lol |
| 21:07.24 | newlinux | xrandr |
| 21:07.29 | newlinux | Can't open display |
| 21:07.35 | newlinux | why? :S |
| 21:08.05 | greycat | because you're not in X? |
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| 21:10.31 | newlinux | greycat: so the best way would not be to change resolution? or I really have to install the nvida drivers first? |
| 21:12.20 | greycat | Well, you can't run xrandr if you aren't in X. Beyond that I have no answers for you. |
| 21:12.46 | greycat | Most commands that begin with 'x' are X clients that require you to be in X to run them. xargs is an exception. |
| 21:13.51 | Enrico_Menotti | Hello. I'd need some indications about the keyboard mapping in the console. I have found many indications about how to remap the keyboard but they don't work in the console (maybe I'm confusing console and X terminal?). If I understand it correctly, we have on one side the console, which is entered by login on a textual environment, and on the other side the X terminal, which is provided by the graphical environment. |
| 21:13.51 | Enrico_Menotti | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.55 | greycat | Enrico_Menotti: you're correct that those two environments are VERY different, and things that work at a low level in one of them will not work in the other. |
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| 21:15.27 | greycat | Low level in this case meaning "anything lower than stty(1)" |
| 21:17.18 | Enrico_Menotti | So let me state what I found. There is a directory /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/<vendor>/<model> where the keyboard mapping is defined for X terminal. But where is it defined for the console? |
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| 21:19.08 | newlinux | It could not find packet linux-headers-amd64 , why? |
| 21:19.16 | newlinux | apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') |
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| 21:20.40 | newlinux | KaffeJunky123: did you found anything? |
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| 21:26.08 | newlinux | guys? |
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| 21:27.44 | mutante | newlinux: i wouldnt trust that "| sed ..." stuff, how about you just look up your kernel version manually |
| 21:27.56 | mutante | newlinux: what does "uname -r" say |
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| 21:28.20 | newlinux | mutante: 3.16.0-4-amd64 |
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| 21:29.56 | mutante | newlinux: ok, and apt-get install linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64 |
| 21:30.05 | abff | apt install linux-headers-`uname -r`^C |
| 21:30.16 | newlinux | mutante: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) will do the same work, yes? |
| 21:30.31 | abff | $() is deprecated isn't it |
| 21:30.35 | abff | should be using ` ` |
| 21:30.46 | mutante | well, you did: 14:22 < newlinux> apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') |
| 21:31.03 | mutante | and that didnt work. so i tried to help you debug it, by just manually typing the right version |
| 21:31.18 | abff | abff@kara:~/Downloads$ apt search linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 21:31.18 | abff | Sorting... Done |
| 21:31.18 | abff | Full Text Search... Done |
| 21:31.18 | abff | linux-headers-4.9.0-2-amd64/unstable,now 4.9.18-1 amd64 [installed,automatic] |
| 21:31.18 | abff | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:31.19 | mutante | of course than 2 guys followed up with "why dont you do some shortcut" |
| 21:31.40 | mutante | if it works, it works |
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| 21:36.12 | newlinux | im back |
| 21:36.46 | newlinux | so after install nvida-driver the "monitor message" should not appear anymore? |
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| 21:38.58 | Enrico_Menotti | May anybody help me? I have found out that the keyboard layout is shared between X and the console, and is specified in /etc/default/keyboard. But I don't understand where the mapping is actually done. In addition, seems that there are packages that translate the mappings of X to files readable by the console. E.g, ckbcomp, I think. So there are many packages, and I'm very confused about what I need to install in |
| 21:38.59 | Enrico_Menotti | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:39.32 | newlinux | working guys! |
| 21:39.47 | newlinux | :) |
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| 21:46.06 | andai | hey does anyone have VLC installed i want to test a theory |
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| 21:46.13 | andai | can you load a youtube video in VLC on debian |
| 21:46.51 | vlt | !anyone |
| 21:46.51 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 21:47.06 | newlinux | thank you people |
| 21:47.30 | mutante | andai: after you downloaded it with youtube-dl you sure can |
| 21:47.52 | missmbob | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=769739 |
| 21:47.53 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/769739 in vlc (open, moreinfo): «vlc: Can't play videos in webm format on YouTube»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-11-16; last modified: 2017-01-01. |
| 21:47.53 | TomTomTosch | andai: you can, just type vlc <yt-url> in a console. |
| 21:48.21 | andai | alright great! works for me too. I realized it works for videos, but not for streams |
| 21:48.39 | andai | for reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIYLbf-qHfY |
| 21:49.26 | Enrico_Menotti | Sorry guys, my system went down for a while. Probably nobody answered to my question in the meantime, but if anybody did, I beg you to repeat. |
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| 21:49.44 | andai | like i have the same version of vlc on osx and it works, but on my debian vps it doesn't work, so i'm wondering if it's the debian-VLC or the vps |
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| 21:51.16 | mutante | andai: i assume you use the "Color ASCII art video output" to watch videos on a VPS? |
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| 21:51.41 | andai | mutante: Actually, right now I'm trying to setup VLC to stream only the audio from this, to save bandwidth |
| 21:52.01 | andai | mutante: But yeah, that's on the list too :) |
| 21:52.25 | mutante | hehe, ok, i was just wondering what your display is. or is the player on the VPS and the display at home |
| 21:52.34 | confrey | hi everybody |
| 21:52.41 | mutante | i mean it's video LAN client, right |
| 21:52.49 | andai | mutante: right! |
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| 21:53.00 | mutante | gotcha |
| 21:54.06 | confrey | just installed jessie, I was using Linuxmint (since many years) I'm trying to use debian again; first thing : I need to install freecad 0.16 instead 0.14 that is present in stable repository; I tried to install backports but it don't get it |
| 21:54.25 | qqx | Enrico_Menotti: For altering the console keymap I use `setupcon` from the `console-setup` package. |
| 21:54.50 | missmbob | confrey: 0.16 is in fact in jessie-backports |
| 21:54.56 | missmbob | ,v freecad |
| 21:54.58 | judd | Package: freecad on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 0.14.3702+dfsg-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.14.3702+dfsg-3; jessie-backports: 0.16+dfsg2-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.16+dfsg2-3; sid: 0.16+dfsg2-3 |
| 21:56.11 | mutante | confrey: at this point you might as well just switch to stretch. it's already frozen |
| 21:56.34 | Enrico_Menotti | qqx Ok, I have read about that, but I don't understand how that works. I need to specify a couple of special behaviours for a couple of keys. |
| 21:56.41 | mutante | and would give you 0.16 per above |
| 21:56.50 | missmbob | mutante: why? for one program that's in backports? that's stupid |
| 21:56.53 | confrey | missmbob, thanks |
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| 21:57.24 | TomTomTosch | confrey: what was your problem with installing from backports? |
| 21:57.26 | missmbob | confrey: you have to use apt-get -t jessie-backports install freecad |
| 21:57.45 | qqx | Enrico_Menotti: I don't understand all that much of it myself. I just add a couple options myself. I use this script: https://github.com/aschrab/dotfiles/blob/master/console_setup |
| 21:57.49 | confrey | mutante, how do I do that? just changing stable in testing in source.list? |
| 21:58.06 | missmbob | confrey: dont. it's not needed |
| 21:58.07 | confrey | missmbob, yes I'm installing it |
| 21:58.36 | Enrico_Menotti | qqx Thank you, I will have a look at it in a few moments. |
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| 21:59.31 | confrey | ok guys, let me understand : what's benefits from switching to testing? |
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| 22:00.33 | KaffeeJunky123 | confrey: more exciting bugs? |
| 22:00.36 | mutante | that you would get the software version you want. but as missmbob already declared that answer was "stupid" and i dont wanna deal with that attitude |
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| 22:01.07 | casin_ufsc | rage quit!! |
| 22:01.11 | TomTomTosch | good day! |
| 22:01.57 | TomTomTosch | well, you get newer software. that's the benefit. |
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| 22:02.29 | kruug | sets channel limit 1742 |
| 22:02.29 | confrey | there are other a few things i wish to do : 1), try to compile the 'daily' release of freecad from sources; those srcs are in launchpad; 2) I like Compiz very much, so the question is : is it possible to compile it from source (thinking about using sources from linuxmint) |
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| 22:03.36 | TomTomTosch | well, in that case switching to stretch would probably be a good option. ^^ |
| 22:03.52 | casin_ufsc | http://www.freecadweb.org/wiki/CompileOnUnix |
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| 22:05.29 | TomTomTosch | stretch already has compiz packaged. building it on jessie is probably not that easy. |
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| 22:05.51 | TomTomTosch | at least backporting it. |
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| 22:06.02 | confrey | TomTomTosch, may I have to reinstall or just change 'stable' in 'testing' in source.list, and then update and upgrade? |
| 22:06.21 | confrey | and what happen to freecad just installed from backports? |
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| 22:07.15 | TomTomTosch | dpkg: jessie->stretch |
| 22:07.15 | dpkg | Remember that Debian 9 "Stretch" is still pre-release and that security support will not always be timely. Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <stretch release notes> http://deb.li/ipf4z . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "jessie" to "stretch". apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. |
| 22:07.47 | TomTomTosch | freecad from backports should upgrade without problems too, but you can check afterwards. |
| 22:09.09 | TomTomTosch | but disable the backports repo. |
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| 22:12.50 | andai | could someone with VLC please see if it can play this stream ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIYLbf-qHfY |
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| 22:13.24 | andai | turns out i can play normal youtube videos, but not streams, wondering if it's just my system or debian's vlc config |
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| 22:13.36 | TomTomTosch | confrey: you can also get the latest freecad build from git, no need to get packages from different distros. https://www.freecadweb.org/wiki/CompileOnUnix |
| 22:13.51 | TomTomTosch | eh, source, not build. |
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| 22:14.27 | confrey | TomTomTosch, thanks for your interest |
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| 22:15.21 | TomTomTosch | andai: nope, doesn't work. mpv either. |
| 22:15.28 | TomTomTosch | confrey: no problem. ^^ |
| 22:15.41 | andai | TomTomTosch: What's mpv ? |
| 22:16.12 | missmbob | ,i mpv |
| 22:16.13 | judd | Package mpv (video, optional) in jessie/amd64: video player based on MPlayer/mplayer2. Version: 0.6.2-2; Size: 731.8k; Installed: 1944k; Homepage: http://mpv.io/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/mpv |
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| 22:16.31 | andai | missmbob: can mpv play normal Youtube videos? |
| 22:16.39 | missmbob | yes |
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| 22:17.02 | andai | thanks |
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| 22:17.21 | otherus3r | is it possible to tell if hard drive is full disk encrypted? |
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| 22:17.44 | otherus3r | https://paste.debian.net/927341/ |
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| 22:19.33 | BrainError404 | Hi, can I know why I can't set iwconfig iface mode master even if iw says it supports ap mode? |
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| 22:19.57 | JyZyXEL | how can i purge all the packages that i installed in the last hour? |
| 22:21.02 | JyZyXEL | i guess last n packages would work too |
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| 22:21.10 | teraflops | JyZyXEL: read dpkg log |
| 22:21.28 | teraflops | or parse it |
| 22:21.42 | otherus3r | is it possible to tell if hard drive is full disk encrypted? https://paste.debian.net/927341/ |
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| 22:22.35 | otherus3r | what is sbd1 and sbd2 btw? |
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| 22:25.51 | altyr | otherus3r: sdb is some sort of hard drive. sdb1/sdb2/sdb3 are partitions on the drive. if you look at the second-to-last column it will tell you |
| 22:26.24 | otherus3r | altyr: Can you tell if my hard drive is full disk encrypted? |
| 22:27.08 | altyr | it doesn't look like it to me. it appears only partition 3 is encrypted |
| 22:27.25 | altyr | again, look at the second to last column |
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| 22:30.36 | otherus3r | altyr: so my swap is encrypted? |
| 22:30.45 | otherus3r | what I can see |
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| 22:31.07 | otherus3r | cryptsetup status /dev/dm-2 didnt give me any output |
| 22:31.20 | andai | to conclude my investigation: latest VLC (2.2.4 "Weatherwax") can play YouTube streams on macOS and Ubuntu, but not Debian. |
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| 22:38.05 | teraflops | andai: because it ships with youtube.lua |
| 22:38.28 | BrainError404 | Again same question: can I know why I can't set iwconfig iface mode master even if iw says it supports ap mode? |
| 22:38.39 | teraflops | mpv do have a hook that calls youtube-dl |
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| 22:44.28 | mishehu | greetings folks - quick question about package building w/debuild . I'm building a package with debuild -i -us -uc -b, but I'd like to associate a package revision number and 'jessie' to the package name that is produced. how do I accomplish that? |
| 22:44.58 | ChmEarl | mishehu, edit debian/changelog |
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| 22:45.11 | ChmEarl | or `dch -n` |
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| 22:47.00 | mishehu | ChmEarl: ah, so `foo (1.1.0) stable; urgency=low` becomes `foo (1.1.0-1.jessie) stable; urgency=low` ? |
| 22:48.19 | somiaj | mishehu: don't edit the current changelog entry, add a new one |
| 22:48.38 | somiaj | but yes, that would be what you started it with. Then mention in it that this is a custom build (and maybe why) and sign it with your name/email at the bottom. |
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| 22:49.03 | mishehu | thanks both of you, I'll try that. |
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| 22:49.29 | ChmEarl | mishehu, any email you add must match to your gpg keys |
| 22:50.33 | somiaj | that shouldn't matter with the -us and -uc flags, those mean unsigned. |
| 22:51.10 | somiaj | you could use a local email for all the build scripts care, but if using/sharing this package, best to document what you did and who you are. |
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| 22:52.02 | mishehu | yeah I'm not making anything for submission, it's just a customized build of a software package for our own internal use. |
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| 22:52.31 | somiaj | that is fine, I'd still practice good habbits, but using a local email would be just fine. |
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| 23:12.26 | andai | teraflops: the debian version ships with youtube.lua ? What do the others use? |
| 23:14.33 | tw | mishehu: document the crap out of that. One of your coworkers is eventually going to look at it and wonder what and why, possibly long after your gone. |
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| 23:25.12 | mishehu | tw: hah, I'm the only c/c++ dev out of a 15 person dev team. the only other person who would ever look at it is the sysadmin who handles the puppet server & the custom debian package repo we run. |
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| 23:47.28 | ghormoon | hi, I've got a bad drive to try to copy data out, is there a way to force to "reset" it without rebooting whole box back and forth? for some time in the begining I was able to at least list it (fdisk -l), now it says /dev/sdh doesn't exists (I can dd if=/dev/sdh but it stops after 0 bytes, same for ddrescue) |
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| 23:54.23 | kiki` | can i do something like: startA || startB in a bash script in order to startB only if startA failed? |
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| 23:57.44 | ghormoon | that's what || is for (assuming that startA properly uses return codes) |
