| 00:00.05 | ryouma | dunno what to do with an old mac laptop then |
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| 00:05.14 | somiaj | whoisjohngestalt: there is still a ppc port, it is just now unoffical, but can still be used if needed. |
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| 00:10.02 | whoisjohngestalt | somiaj: ok cool, thanks, i didnt realize that |
| 00:10.11 | whoisjohngestalt | emx: i do |
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| 00:10.27 | whoisjohngestalt | ryouma: netbsd |
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| 00:10.59 | ryouma | whoisjohngestalt: thanks (though debian is all i know) |
| 00:11.16 | whoisjohngestalt | time for me to become a package maintiner for an unofficial port i guess |
| 00:11.53 | whoisjohngestalt | ryouma: adapt or die, i suppose. or become involved in mainaining the unoffial port we just learned exists |
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| 00:12.27 | ryouma | yeah, i'd use whichever installs quickly and is considered secure enough |
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| 00:12.55 | somiaj | whoisjohngestalt: there are other ports that are not released with stable, this isn't new, the port should still work, it just won't have the same security support. |
| 00:13.51 | emx | ubuntu has official ppc support |
| 00:14.17 | somiaj | is it keeping it, I wonder if it will follow suit since debian isn't realsing one |
| 00:15.24 | whoisjohngestalt | ryouma: nice. any code distibution you intend to run may deserve your own personal code audit if security is what you seek |
| 00:16.15 | whoisjohngestalt | somiaj: i see. is there an debian project document about unofficial ports |
| 00:16.43 | somiaj | lots, one second |
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| 00:17.16 | whoisjohngestalt | emx: yes they do, although i have not had luck with it. and i assume they will drop support since their upstream just did |
| 00:17.20 | somiaj | https://www.debian.org/ports/ -- start there, look down for all the other ones that aren't released. Note powerpc will just be moving after jessie looses support |
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| 00:17.38 | emx | did you try ubuntu mate? |
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| 00:21.31 | frankie____ | somiaj: it works with fedora 25 kernel...so, since fedora is bleeding edge, i figure it's the latest kernel |
| 00:21.42 | whoisjohngestalt | somiaj: well, thanks. as long as the kernel continues to support the architectuer, i'll be happy |
| 00:21.58 | whoisjohngestalt | s/uer/ure/ |
| 00:22.25 | emx | upgrade the kernel to 4.10 |
| 00:22.46 | somiaj | frankie____: in jessie you can get the 4.9 kernel from jessie backports, if it is supported in linux that kernel is most likely knew enough. |
| 00:23.09 | somiaj | frankie____: you may not have access to the card during the install, but can get it to work afterwards |
| 00:23.21 | emx | you risk messing up your settings |
| 00:23.38 | frankie____ | somiaj: got it..i'll give it a shot |
| 00:24.06 | frankie____ | thanks man |
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| 00:26.07 | emx | When will wayland replace xorg? |
| 00:26.40 | whoisjohngestalt | is debian dropping xorg and moving to wayland? |
| 00:26.49 | whoisjohngestalt | or just cannonical? |
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| 00:27.59 | ryouma | 17:15 <whoisjohngestalt> ryouma: nice. any code distibution you intend to run may deserve your own personal code audit if security is what you seek -- let me count the lines |
| 00:28.23 | missmbob | that's the idea. canonical uses mir instead |
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| 00:30.51 | missmbob | which is really silly. i never understood that |
| 00:31.33 | emx | it was to scare the wayland devs into making it faster |
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| 00:36.15 | whoisjohngestalt | ryouma: lol |
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| 00:48.36 | somiaj | whoisjohngestalt: waylend is not a replacment of xorg, it will be provided along side of xorg. |
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| 01:21.43 | zykotick9 | missmbob: <ot> do you think canonical will continue with mir, now that they've dropped unity and are returning to gnome? |
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| 01:22.26 | missmbob | zykotick9: no idea |
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| 01:35.09 | monban | silly question, does one need ALSA installed if one has pulseaudio? I'm having a heck of time fixing my sound and if pulseaudio can do it all on its own (can it?) I feel like I can simplify things by cutting out the ALSA middleman |
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| 01:35.43 | phogg | monban: alsa is what the kernel uses so without it you get no sound period. Pulse uses alsa. |
| 01:36.13 | phogg | monban: that said you probably don't need alsa tools such as e.g. aplay or alsamixer. |
| 01:37.04 | monban | that makes sense, thank you phogg |
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| 02:50.24 | likcoras | Hi, I use lvm on luks, and when I shut down using "systemctl poweroff" or "poweroff", it takes 20 seconds waiting for dm devices (or something along those lines), but "shutdown now" doesn't, and just shuts down immediately. Why is this happening? |
| 02:51.46 | likcoras | While waiting., it displays the usual systemd message about waiting for job ... xx s/ 1 min 30s or tometimes unlimited, but always moves on after 20 seconds. |
| 02:52.12 | likcoras | And it's always almost exactly 20 seconds. |
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| 02:55.07 | ryouma | i am interested in the answer also |
| 02:55.40 | ryouma | although int he past it has taken forever and it was iompossible to shut down |
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| 03:51.08 | rhizome | monban: my understanding is alsa = sound, pulse = multiple sources |
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| 03:52.19 | dax | ALSA is the usual Linux kernel interface for receiving sound from userland and sending it to hardware. Pulseaudio is a userland daemon that receives sound from applications, optionally does magic to it, and sends it to ALSA |
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| 03:52.54 | dax | applications are often coded so that they can talk directly to ALSA; if you're using Pulseaudio that interface is shimmed so they go through PA instead |
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| 03:54.23 | dax | (reality is, as always, somewhat more complicated than that, but that's the basics) |
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| 04:01.14 | XeonSquared | If I'm doing virtualization, is any filesystem saner than any other? COW, not COW? |
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| 04:08.02 | Aeo | XeonSquared, what's your stack |
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| 04:08.25 | XeonSquared | I'm planning to throw Xen at it |
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| 04:21.27 | Aeo | XeonSquared, and this is for hypervisor |
| 04:21.33 | Aeo | do you have shared storage |
| 04:21.46 | Aeo | or an object store |
| 04:22.04 | XeonSquared | I have a bunch of big HDDs I'm, gonna use for a RAID array, which I'm going to put virtual HDDs onto |
| 04:22.26 | XeonSquared | don't mind the extra comma >.> |
| 04:23.29 | Aeo | ah, single machine. yeah that'll work. Don't use btrfs, purely for stability and some perf problems. |
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| 04:23.51 | Aeo | ext4/zfs work |
| 04:24.34 | XeonSquared | Alrighty, thanks. |
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| 05:14.38 | rdococ | how do I modify my keyboard layout? I would like to change a few keys e.g. AltGr+J t |
| 05:14.56 | Aeo | rdococ, what DE you running? |
| 05:15.05 | rdococ | MATE |
| 05:15.07 | Aeo | or do you want to change your system locale |
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| 05:15.38 | Aeo | it's probably in the mate settings dialogue tree |
| 05:15.39 | rdococ | I'd just like to remap a few AltGr shortcuts, not change my locale. |
| 05:15.42 | rdococ | k |
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| 05:20.04 | rdococ | I can't find an option to remap a few keys. |
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| 05:31.50 | nkuttler | rdococ: i use xmodmap for that |
| 05:32.20 | nkuttler | what do you want altgr-j to do though? |
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| 05:40.18 | OtakuSenpai | hello |
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| 05:40.32 | OtakuSenpai | guys in regards to my yesterdays problem |
| 05:41.26 | OtakuSenpai | when i type the button for the comments symbol,i get ¨ |
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| 05:42.12 | OtakuSenpai | but in gnome desktop when i change the locale from English(US,alternative english) to English(US) |
| 05:42.29 | OtakuSenpai | i get the normal symbol for the comments character |
| 05:43.10 | OtakuSenpai | i tried changing the locales,even setting the locales to english on my own,but it didnt stop |
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| 05:44.17 | OtakuSenpai | what can i do to make it be as a normal " |
| 05:45.11 | xormor | colours |
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| 05:55.12 | OtakuSenpai | guys?? |
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| 05:59.41 | OtakuSenpai | anyone... |
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| 06:01.49 | OtakuSenpai | i3 is left unusable in my system due to ¨ |
| 06:03.03 | OtakuSenpai | i3 is left unusable in my system due to ¨ |
| 06:03.04 | OtakuSenpai | shit |
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| 06:04.23 | OtakuSenpai | http://tinypic.com/r/24djvys/9 |
| 06:04.45 | OtakuSenpai | this is a image of my desktop with the two locales on the upper right |
| 06:05.03 | OtakuSenpai | any help would be greatly appreciated |
| 06:05.25 | ___Adam | Hi! Latest nvidia-current-375.39 stops installing at "Building initial module for 4.9.0-2-amd64" and nothing. |
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| 06:06.08 | xpman | hi |
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| 06:06.38 | OtakuSenpai | even if there was a way to print " in terminal,while using the "normal" locale,i would be happy |
| 06:07.50 | xpman | what? |
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| 06:15.34 | ___Adam | nvm |
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| 07:33.46 | OtakuSenpai | guys pls |
| 07:34.51 | Dan^ | OtakuSenpai ? |
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| 07:49.21 | someboy | Hi all. |
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| 07:50.20 | someboy | when doing sudo apt-get update I get this error Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
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| 08:18.42 | celyr | someboy maybe you are using an outdated mirror |
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| 08:22.12 | WEEDSMOKERLOL69 | im so high on the reefer |
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| 08:22.51 | WEEDSMOKERLOL69 | !ops 420 |
| 08:22.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: weedsmokerlol69 complains about: 420 |
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| 08:40.06 | celyr | Is actually someone really using debian/kfreebsd ? |
| 08:40.13 | celyr | or is it just a proff of concept ? |
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| 08:52.04 | celyr | well it looks like it was a proff of concept XD |
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| 08:58.19 | p3rror | Hello |
| 08:58.27 | p3rror | I have an issue with dhclient |
| 08:58.35 | p3rror | I can not get an offer from dhcp server |
| 08:58.36 | p3rror | https://imagebin.ca/v/3J1b4J1CVRpN |
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| 08:59.04 | p3rror | I think that I the server does not receive my request |
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| 09:06.12 | celyr | p3rror, if you configure a static ip is it working ? |
| 09:06.21 | p3rror | nop |
| 09:06.31 | celyr | so there are network issues |
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| 09:06.39 | celyr | physical network issues |
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| 09:06.51 | p3rror | celyr: this is a vbox |
| 09:06.59 | p3rror | I create a bridged interface |
| 09:07.07 | p3rror | and that is worked yesterday |
| 09:07.10 | celyr | physical virtual network issues :P |
| 09:07.22 | p3rror | =) |
| 09:07.26 | celyr | what are you using as hypervisor ? |
| 09:07.37 | p3rror | libvirt |
| 09:07.47 | p3rror | I run a virtualbox |
| 09:08.22 | p3rror | the host machine is a windows and the guest are debian, ubuntu, rhel |
| 09:08.29 | celyr | sorry I have 0 experience on it :/ |
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| 09:09.26 | celyr | it's 100% a vm configuration issues anyway, try to play with it |
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| 09:11.30 | wsraspberry | hello |
| 09:11.49 | wsraspberry | is there a channel for raspberry pi |
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| 09:20.16 | SuperSeriousCat | wsraspberry, /msg alis list raspberry |
| 09:20.48 | bazhang | for #raspbian go there |
| 09:22.10 | wsraspberry | thx |
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| 09:30.00 | wsraspberry | #rootyourphone is my channel |
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| 09:31.08 | bazhang | wsraspberry, ask on #freenode about namespace and your channel |
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| 09:31.34 | wsraspberry | ok thx |
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| 09:46.01 | avalchev | Hey, do you know any GUI application for managing local docker instances, instead of typing commands ? |
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| 09:49.40 | Vagabondy | hello |
| 09:50.11 | Vagabondy | why am i experiencing low hdd performance |
| 09:51.02 | bazhang | what specs |
| 09:51.10 | bazhang | what is the rpm on the hdd |
| 09:51.23 | bazhang | and how full is it |
| 09:51.44 | Vagabondy | RPM is 7200 |
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| 09:52.02 | bazhang | how full |
| 09:52.05 | Vagabondy | It's quite ful, but that's not the issue. Since i moved to this new box i've been having this issue |
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| 09:52.17 | Vagabondy | Previously the fullness didn't matter |
| 09:52.24 | bazhang | full means slower |
| 09:52.27 | Vagabondy | it's the mb i suspect |
| 09:52.35 | Vagabondy | not THAT slow |
| 09:52.54 | Vagabondy | it's slow depending on the number of read/write processes |
| 09:53.06 | Vagabondy | the more processes the slower.. but not in a normal way. I mean MUCH slower. |
| 09:53.13 | bazhang | how full is full |
| 09:53.16 | Vagabondy | no, not fullness and not fragmentation |
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| 09:53.23 | spacebug^ | not using DMA? |
| 09:53.34 | Vagabondy | that's what i was suspecting, DMA. But i AM using it |
| 09:53.39 | spacebug^ | hum ok |
| 09:53.41 | Vagabondy | or it's not working properly |
| 09:53.56 | Vagabondy | even movies sometimes stutter cause of high read/write priority |
| 09:54.14 | bazhang | what gig ram |
| 09:54.15 | Vagabondy | quite honestly, i'm on win, this is not a linux related question, sorry.. but i just didn't know where else to go |
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| 09:54.20 | Vagabondy | 8 gb |
| 09:54.32 | bazhang | then ask ##windows |
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| 09:54.32 | Vagabondy | memory doesn't matter, it used to be 4.. i added another 4 thinking it might help. Nope. |
| 09:54.42 | Vagabondy | it's not a windows related issue either |
| 09:54.50 | Vagabondy | doesn't look like it |
| 09:54.53 | bazhang | it's not debian |
| 09:55.03 | Vagabondy | i thought maybe you know why specific hardware may be acting like this |
| 09:55.06 | bazhang | you just stated you are on win |
| 09:55.09 | spacebug^ | Vagabondy: you coulr try Debian on it and see the performance. If it's better or same I mean |
| 09:55.28 | bazhang | that or ##hardware |
| 09:55.37 | Vagabondy | true bazhang, but i'm asking a hardware related question, not linux or win, cause i'm sure it's not the OS issue |
| 09:55.57 | Vagabondy | spacebug^, very good idea, and i've been thinking over it |
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| 09:56.07 | Vagabondy | but i'm leaving it for the dessert so to speak |
| 09:56.46 | Vagabondy | --the |
| 09:57.09 | Vagabondy | i guess it's the only thing left to do now |
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| 09:57.34 | Vagabondy | and bazhang, full is like about 10 gb's is free |
| 09:57.58 | Vagabondy | only like i said, it's not what causing it.. i used this hdd on another machine and fullness hardly impeded my work |
| 09:58.06 | Vagabondy | not in the way i would notice at any rate |
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| 09:58.38 | Vagabondy | but on this machine.. it DOES affect the performance and particularly on read & write operations |
| 09:58.57 | Vagabondy | it seems like DMA isn't working properly or caching |
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| 09:59.35 | Vagabondy | i've tested ram and hdd and there were no errors detected or any fail reports |
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| 09:59.50 | Vagabondy | but i can see something's wrong |
| 10:00.12 | cruncher | Vagabondy, what is the problem with it? |
| 10:00.12 | Vagabondy | Guess i got no choice but to use linux. Only i'm veeery reluctant to do that... anyway, thanks |
| 10:00.19 | bazhang | Vagabondy, how is this a debian support issue |
| 10:00.20 | Vagabondy | Slow hdd access. |
| 10:00.26 | cruncher | not using debian? |
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| 10:00.32 | cruncher | why this channel then? :D |
| 10:00.33 | Vagabondy | bazhang, look, if you don't wanna help me then just nevermind |
| 10:00.34 | bazhang | he's on win |
| 10:00.46 | Vagabondy | ok, i will explain |
| 10:00.49 | bazhang | Vagabondy, not how that works |
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| 10:01.32 | bazhang | #debian-offtopic or ##hardware Vagabondy |
| 10:01.49 | Vagabondy | i used this channel because i've tried the other ones and noone helped me. I thought i might ask on a linux channel cause people using linux are generally hardcore technicians and they might know what's causing my problem since i do not believe it's a windows related issue, not at this point i don't. |
| 10:02.05 | Vagabondy | i've tried hardware, but will do debian-offtopic now, thanks |
| 10:02.12 | bazhang | np |
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| 10:02.42 | jelly | actually, #debian-offtopic shuns ANY kind of support stuff |
| 10:02.52 | jelly | bad bazhang! |
| 10:02.57 | jelly | no cookie |
| 10:03.04 | bazhang | mea culpa |
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| 10:30.04 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
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| 10:40.34 | JyZyXEL | if you have multiple llvm versions installed, how do you select which one mesa uses for OpenGL? |
| 10:40.52 | JyZyXEL | or does it automatically use the newest one? |
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| 11:00.36 | b30wulf | how do i press enter in linux |
| 11:00.55 | bazhang | b30wulf, enter what |
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| 11:01.33 | b30wulf | thats what i was thinking |
| 11:01.47 | bazhang | b30wulf, linux keyboard? |
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| 11:03.17 | b30wulf | book says enter but i see no enter icon in linux |
| 11:03.30 | bazhang | what book |
| 11:04.00 | bazhang | b30wulf, what OS are you on now |
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| 11:05.24 | b30wulf | it says debian |
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| 11:05.56 | bazhang | b30wulf, please take a screenshot of your keyboard |
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| 11:06.21 | b30wulf | but my keyboard is outside the computer |
| 11:06.30 | bazhang | use a cellphone |
| 11:06.36 | bazhang | then imgur |
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| 11:08.24 | b30wulf | yah |
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| 11:08.41 | bazhang | b30wulf, how do you send messages to this channel |
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| 11:09.30 | bazhang | b30wulf, whats the last key you hit |
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| 11:09.35 | bazhang | thats the enter |
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| 11:10.10 | bazhang | friday the trollteenth |
| 11:10.12 | b30wulf | ok it works now |
| 11:10.19 | b30wulf | ty bazhang |
| 11:10.25 | bazhang | np! |
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| 11:21.43 | b30wulf | well fuck |
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| 11:22.19 | slax0r | o.O |
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| 12:52.24 | __db__ | Hi |
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| 12:54.08 | __db__ | Can anyone explain to me what package / configuration influences the existences of /dev/disk/by-path on a debian 8 up 2 date please ? |
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| 13:27.32 | thecha | is there any software in the debian repositories that can controll a usb webca to act like a surveilance cammera? |
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| 13:28.41 | tjt263 | thecha: i imagine there are plenty |
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| 13:32.04 | ksk | tjt263: did you google? https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/video/motion for example |
| 13:32.38 | thecha | ksk ty |
| 13:32.44 | thecha | tjt263â ty |
| 13:32.44 | tjt263 | thecha: ^ |
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| 13:33.55 | tjt263 | thecha: i usually do something like apt-cache search webcam |
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| 13:37.05 | tjt263 | can someone please do cat /etc/network/interfaces and show me the output? |
| 13:37.23 | tjt263 | unless it's non-default |
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| 13:40.41 | themill | tjt263: there is no default /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 13:42.35 | BluesKaj | tjt263: are you looking for your new ethernet (eth0) name given by systemd? |
| 13:45.44 | BluesKaj | tjt263: if so do, ip route show |
| 13:46.24 | BluesKaj | better stop making assumptions |
| 13:48.44 | tjt263 | can someone please do cat /etc/network/interfaces.conf and show me the output? |
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| 13:48.50 | tjt263 | i should have said ^ |
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| 13:49.31 | themill | tjt263: there is no such file. Perhaps you should ask your real question? |
| 13:49.55 | spacebug^ | a normal user can't renice his/her own processes in Debian? Can one change that easily? |
| 13:49.58 | tjt263 | that is my real question |
| 13:50.35 | themill | tjt263: «cat: /etc/network/interfaces.conf: No such file or directory» did that help? |
| 13:50.57 | themill | spacebug^: yes, but only downwards in priority |
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| 13:51.08 | tjt263 | yes, thanks |
| 13:51.39 | spacebug^ | themill: thats what I want. But when I try that as my normal user I get premission not allowed. Do I need to change something? |
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| 13:52.44 | tjt263 | why doesnt debian proper have that file by default? |
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| 13:53.16 | themill | tjt263: there's an infinite number of filenames that Debian doesn't have |
| 13:53.22 | BluesKaj | tjt263: drop the conf |
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| 13:53.59 | themill | spacebug^: perhaps you can pastebin a command and some output for us? |
| 13:54.02 | BluesKaj | it's ./etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:54.16 | BluesKaj | tjt263: ^ |
| 13:54.23 | tjt263 | doesnt really answer my question though. i thought usually there would at least be a few lines in there specifying the loopback interface, etc |
| 13:55.06 | themill | tjt263: not in that file, hence it not existing. Perhaps we can go back to your real question now? |
| 13:55.12 | tjt263 | BluesKaj: oh okay, is that absent by default ? |
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| 13:55.19 | BluesKaj | yes |
| 13:55.45 | spacebug^ | themill: https://pastebin.com/YEWWzbr1 |
| 13:57.05 | BluesKaj | tjt263: you might be thinking of /etc/resolv.conf which is also part of the networking setup |
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| 14:01.55 | tjt263 | themill: what real question? im not speaking in some kind of code, im speaking plainly |
| 14:02.23 | themill | tjt263: describe the problem and not what you (incorrectly) think the solution is |
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| 14:06.11 | arone | TGTGIF ? |
| 14:06.20 | tjt263 | BluesKaj: nope, i was thinking of the first one, but thanks |
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| 14:07.28 | spacebug^ | themill: I was able to run virtualbox with "nice". Just not able to "renice" it. (It worked for forefox though) |
| 14:07.42 | themill | is it already niced? |
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| 14:08.23 | BluesKaj | tjt263: yes, but whynot paste your /etc/network/interfaces file, so we can have a look at it |
| 14:09.28 | BluesKaj | !paste |
| 14:09.29 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 14:10.14 | tjt263 | why do you want to see that? |
| 14:10.22 | tjt263 | actually i dont even have that file |
| 14:10.42 | spacebug^ | themill: it was not. But since I could not change it, I tried to start it with another nice value instead and that worked |
| 14:10.52 | themill | odd |
| 14:11.56 | themill | tjt263: this would all be so much easier if you actually described your problem. |
| 14:12.00 | themill | !ask |
| 14:12.00 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 14:12.07 | BluesKaj | wonders if tjt263 is actully running debian |
| 14:12.15 | themill | assumes now |
| 14:12.17 | themill | t |
| 14:15.32 | BluesKaj | tjt263: themill asked you a very legitimate question, which you won't answer...why not? |
| 14:15.38 | tjt263 | BluesKaj: didnt you say it was absent by default? |
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| 14:16.03 | BluesKaj | nope , just conf part, tjt263 |
| 14:16.05 | themill | tjt263: where "it" means what? |
| 14:16.18 | jhutchins | BluesKaj: Looks like he's on stretch. |
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| 14:16.48 | BluesKaj | so am I, and I have an interfaces file, jhutchins |
| 14:17.19 | jhutchins | BluesKaj: Me too on jessie. |
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| 14:18.22 | BluesKaj | exactly jhutchins. it's a deafult file on debian networking afaik |
| 14:18.37 | BluesKaj | oops default even |
| 14:18.43 | tjt263 | themill: it=/etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:18.58 | tjt263 | BluesKaj: okay, i thought you said the file didnt exist by default |
| 14:19.00 | themill | tjt263: that file is highly like to exist but there is no default |
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| 14:19.38 | BluesKaj | tjt263: i said /etc/network/intrefaces.conf doesn't exist |
| 14:19.48 | themill | tjt263: this would all be so much easier if you actually described your problem. |
| 14:20.04 | blackflow | does the bot have an entry on XY problems? |
| 14:20.06 | tjt263 | so on a fresh install, will it be there |
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| 14:20.15 | themill | tjt263: that depends |
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| 14:21.08 | tjt263 | BluesKaj: yeah i got that, i thought you said that about both |
| 14:21.51 | tjt263 | that's all |
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| 14:30.07 | tjt263 | themill: what does it depend on? BluesKaj seems to think it should be there by default |
| 14:30.33 | tjt263 | there is no problem, i just dont have that file |
| 14:31.16 | themill | So if there's no problem, why are you asking about it? |
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| 14:33.23 | tjt263 | if i ask a question, its because i want to know the answer, its as simple as that |
| 14:33.39 | alex88 | Hi there, I've this /etc/apt/preferences https://gist.github.com/alex88/18f3b14b2d1a1fe502d1bbf2db1da244 however if I do `apt-cache policy nano` it shows stretch with priority 900 and jessie with 500 instead of 950, any clue? |
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| 14:34.13 | themill | tjt263: so far, you've asked "why doesn't /foo/quux/bar exist?" and the answer is "because it doesn't". |
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| 14:35.48 | themill | alex88: can you pastebin "apt-cache policy nano; apt-cache policy" too? |
| 14:36.33 | thereyougo | anyone knows IRC channel about installing debian on android ? |
| 14:36.51 | tjt263 | themill: i dont know what you want from me, man. |
| 14:36.51 | tjt263 | but BluesKaj mentioned it actually does exist |
| 14:37.04 | alex88 | themill: https://gist.github.com/alex88/18f3b14b2d1a1fe502d1bbf2db1da244#file-policy |
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| 14:38.16 | tjt263 | mine is missing, i just wanted to know what the file looks like by default |
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| 14:38.47 | zabow | tjt263, the default depends on how you installed your system |
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| 14:40.47 | themill | alex88: I think there's a reasonable chance that the entire stanza is being ignored but it might be because raspbian is setting up their repos differently. (Please ask #raspbian for support) |
| 14:41.08 | alex88 | themill: ok thank you! |
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| 14:42.34 | han-solo | and themill put away his gun :} |
| 14:42.48 | tjt263 | zabow: cool, so what part of the install process makes that difference |
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| 14:44.01 | zabow | tjt263, what do you think? maybe when you choose your partitions? :) |
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| 14:44.59 | tjt263 | what difference does that make |
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| 14:45.22 | themill | han-solo: apparently I forgot to take my hat off after chasing away some crapflooder last week... |
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| 14:54.00 | citrik | Hi all! I bought a Lenovo Yoga 300 with a 32G internal HD. I'm trying to install GNU/Linux but I can not see the HD anywhere on /dev/. I tried to run gparted but I have no results. |
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| 14:55.20 | spacebug^ | citrik: are you booting using UEFI? |
| 14:55.33 | citrik | not |
| 14:55.39 | citrik | I'm on legacy bios |
| 14:55.59 | spacebug^ | and the disk is not used with UEFI? |
| 14:55.59 | han-solo | themill: we had troll just hours ago :} |
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| 14:56.35 | citrik | I disabled alll UEFI on bios and the Windows is running with no problem |
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| 14:57.19 | citrik | Is some command to "scan" the hd devices on gnu/linux? |
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| 14:58.06 | greycat | There are, but if your kernel doesn't support the type of controller that the "disk" is on.... |
| 14:58.23 | greycat | I'm struggling right now to dig up the name of that OTHER controller that is not SATA but is sometimes used for SSDs. |
| 14:58.41 | spacebug^ | citrik: could you try to enable UEFI and then boot to a live CD/USB in UEFI mode? just to see if the disk is found then? |
| 14:58.45 | citrik | Not I'm running a Gentoo live kernel 4.916 |
| 14:58.52 | greycat | I don't think it is a UEFI issue. |
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| 14:59.07 | greycat | What kernel version is on that Gentoo live disk? |
| 14:59.15 | citrik | 4.9.16 |
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| 14:59.37 | greycat | Huh, and even *that* one can't see it? |
| 14:59.41 | citrik | I'll try to enable the uefi |
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| 15:00.02 | greycat | Try "fdisk -l" and/or "lsblk" as generatl purpose what's-my-disk commands. |
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| 15:00.59 | greycat | Ah, here it is! NVMe |
| 15:01.15 | greycat | The Linux NVMe driver is natively included in the kernel since version 3.3. NVMe devices should show up under /dev/nvme*. |
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| 15:02.05 | citrik | fdisk -l: No results, ram, and the live usb |
| 15:02.32 | citrik | lsblk: same results |
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| 15:02.47 | jhutchins | citrik: Why do you think the disk exists and is working? |
| 15:03.00 | tjt263 | citrik: try: cat /proc/partitions |
| 15:03.13 | citrik | I have a oem windows 10 working |
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| 15:03.34 | j4ckcom | how can i install python pip3? |
| 15:03.39 | greycat | Can you get Windows to tell you what the disk is? |
| 15:03.41 | tjt263 | or check lsblk or blkid if they are available |
| 15:04.19 | tjt263 | j4ckcom: i think with easy_install |
| 15:04.43 | han-solo | apt-get install python3-pip? |
| 15:05.43 | citrik | On UEFI I can not boot from USB |
| 15:05.56 | j4ckcom | thanks tjt263 and han-solo :) |
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| 15:08.22 | spacebug^ | someone else has issus with booting after install but installation worked https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/installing-linux-lite/lenovo-yoga-300-boot-issues/ |
| 15:08.37 | citrik | On Windows: Samsung BGND3R |
| 15:09.35 | greycat | well, now google is telling me about something called "eMMC" which is new to me. |
| 15:10.01 | citrik | http://freaktab.com/forum/tv-player-support/intel-based-tv-players/512126-question-emmc-on-pipo-x8-and-rikomagic-mk36-doesn-t-appear-in-ubuntu-install |
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| 15:10.47 | citrik | https://askubuntu.com/questions/708156/how-to-install-ubuntu-14-04-3-on-built-in-emmc-flash |
| 15:11.00 | citrik | Poor supported on Linux |
| 15:11.24 | greycat | 11:11 ->[dpkg] msgemmc |
| 15:11.24 | greycat | 11:11 <-dpkg[~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg] are you using Windows? |
| 15:11.47 | citrik | :( |
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| 15:12.52 | han-solo | ha! |
| 15:13.41 | han-solo | dpkg uses some kind of xml, for pattern recognition, right? something like the ALICE project? |
| 15:13.42 | dpkg | han-solo: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 15:13.51 | citrik | I think I need to wait to the kernel hackers to run on it :) |
| 15:13.52 | han-solo | who made dpkg? |
| 15:13.56 | abrotman | han-solo: the bot, or the program? |
| 15:14.04 | han-solo | the bot |
| 15:14.13 | abrotman | han-solo: blootbot or infobot, have fun with google |
| 15:14.27 | han-solo | okay |
| 15:14.35 | greycat | dpkg, no, ssd is <reply>Solid-State Drives are basically nonvolatile RAM chips used for long term storage. There are at least 3 types: SATA (no problem), NVMe (no problem since Linux 3.3), and eMMC (not yet supported). See also <ssd limit> |
| 15:14.36 | dpkg | okay, greycat |
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| 15:15.23 | blackflow | training the minions of skynet. |
| 15:16.04 | greycat | han-solo: I doubt it uses any kind of XML for any purpose |
| 15:16.13 | han-solo | oh! |
| 15:16.27 | citrik | thanks greycat |
| 15:16.33 | citrik | for the info |
| 15:16.46 | han-solo | I was just playing with the ALICE project, so i thought...well, infobot uses perl |
| 15:16.51 | han-solo | THanks anyway |
| 15:17.08 | greycat | Yes, dpkg (blootbot fork of infobot) also uses perl. |
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| 15:17.42 | greycat | !literal cmd: why is (.*?) not in testing |
| 15:17.42 | dpkg | "cmd: why is (.*?) not in testing" is "($1): $1 is not in testing for the reasons listed in https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=$1" |
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| 15:18.13 | citrik | eMMD: http://elinux.org/images/4/41/Linux_on_eMMC-_Optimizing_For_Performance.pdf |
| 15:18.36 | greycat | That was one of my google hits too, but the PDF made me... not click. |
| 15:19.06 | greycat | Plus, "optimizing for performance" is pretty silly if the thing isn't being recognized in the first place. |
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| 15:23.34 | citrik | Thanks all for the help! |
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| 16:46.01 | grzesiek | hello, after updating my system stretch I get exim4 problem |
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| 16:46.44 | grzesiek | exim4 can't bind on IPv6 address |
| 16:46.47 | greycat | spins the wheel of errors and guesses: you disabled IPv6 |
| 16:46.51 | greycat | YAY! I win! |
| 16:47.30 | grzesiek | change dc_local_interfaces=â127.0.0.1' in /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf help but it is normal? |
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| 16:50.44 | CuSn | hands greycat the default prize from under the counter, a length of UTP-CAT6 cable with both ends ripped off. |
| 16:51.51 | greycat | Just like that guy who posted on debian-user about his exim problem, including that one time when he showed us that it was an IPv6 issue, and then after that he just keep reinstalling exim over and over and wondering why it didn't work. |
| 16:52.51 | Dagger | grzesiek: the normal thing to do is to not disable v6 |
| 16:53.14 | greycat | "But Dagger! That's too easy and sensible and sane! I can't possibly accept that answer!" |
| 16:54.14 | CuSn | "But if the world wasn't made in 144 hours straight, my theology is wrong, so science isn't real" |
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| 16:54.31 | setuid | What is wrong with this syntax? "preseed/file=/tmp/preseed.cfg " |
| 16:54.51 | setuid | Every time I boot with that kernel arg, it tells me it can't find the preseed, which does exist, is at that path, and is accessible |
| 16:54.52 | Enrico_Menotti | Hello. I'm working on an embedded Debian system on an arm architecture. At present I'm configuring the keyboard. So I have been able to get xkb work, and change the symbols file related to my system. Now my problem is that there is a specific type defined for a modifier key. This type is defined in a file in the types dir. Now my problem is that it seems not to be read by xkb, so that this type does not become |
| 16:54.52 | Enrico_Menotti | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.11 | setuid | Enrico_Menotti: tried xev? |
| 16:55.12 | greycat | setuid: are you trying to run that in a shell? Shell variable names cannot contain slashes. |
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| 16:55.30 | Enrico_Menotti | setuid What's that? |
| 16:55.49 | setuid | greycat: it's in my packer .json file |
| 16:55.59 | greycat | I know zero about "packer .json" files. |
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| 16:56.34 | setuid | Yeah, ok... so it's run in a shell, but those values are passed to packer, so it shouldn't eat them, but I'll try escaping them |
| 16:57.13 | Enrico_Menotti | setuid Ok, I have read about xev. If I understand it correctly, that's for a graphical environment. I'm instead on the console. |
| 16:57.36 | setuid | Enrico_Menotti: Right, get the keycode with xev and then make sure it's mapped when you boot |
| 16:58.01 | setuid | I'm not suggesting you use xev on your embedded system, just that you use it as a tool to get the keycode |
| 16:59.12 | Enrico_Menotti | setuid I don't have the need to get the keycode. I need to get the specific type defined. It's called PC_FN_LEVEL2, and it's in a file /types/nokia. |
| 16:59.16 | setuid | greycat: Is it possible file-based preseeds are deprecated, and only http is supported now? |
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| 16:59.47 | greycat | I literally have no idea what you are talking about. |
| 17:00.10 | setuid | greycat: https://www.dropbox.com/s/istz5knmot4vllb/Screenshot_2017-04-14_12-59-33.png?dl=0 |
| 17:00.56 | setuid | I can use that same exact URI in a browser and get to my preseed, so it is correct |
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| 17:09.12 | setuid | n/m, I'm an idiot, the file path is rooted on the iso, not the host running the build. |
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| 17:12.16 | julius_ | hi |
| 17:12.48 | julius_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:13.15 | julius_ | how do i get rid of that interface or create a new tunnel without rebooting? |
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| 17:15.46 | han-solo | if <interface> down works? |
| 17:17.39 | julius_ | if? |
| 17:17.59 | julius_ | if gets interpreted as the bash "if" if i type it |
| 17:18.27 | greycat | He probably meant either "ip" or "ifdown", though the syntax is quite wrong for the latter. |
| 17:18.40 | sypher | And the former. |
| 17:18.54 | han-solo | idown damn! |
| 17:19.00 | han-solo | s/idown/ifdown |
| 17:19.18 | han-solo | le me check |
| 17:19.49 | julius_ | ifdown says unknown interface |
| 17:20.10 | julius_ | gre0@NONE: <NOARP> mtu 1476 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1 |
| 17:20.18 | julius_ | ip link also says its down |
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| 17:21.57 | deavmi | If I want to add new sources must I just add them to sources.list? |
| 17:22.01 | deavmi | for apt |
| 17:22.26 | greycat | either /etc/apt/sources.list or a new file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
| 17:22.27 | deavmi | As debian.saix.net (or whatever the one is for saix) is not working for me |
| 17:22.39 | deavmi | greycat: I have an existing sources.list |
| 17:23.06 | han-solo | make sure you do apt-get update :} |
| 17:23.20 | deavmi | to get the new packages list yep will do |
| 17:23.29 | deavmi | I can just disable the broken mirror with the #'s? |
| 17:23.37 | deavmi | and then add the new source and then apt-ge6t update? |
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| 17:24.09 | deavmi | Guess what |
| 17:24.17 | deavmi | Just as I test out the machine now that mirror is working |
| 17:24.22 | deavmi | Lol. But thanks for the help |
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| 17:25.05 | han-solo | well, you should have first tried, "turning it off and on again", maybe :} |
| 17:28.10 | deavmi | Yeah |
| 17:28.25 | deavmi | It is a spotty host running debian vms |
| 17:28.27 | deavmi | with wifi |
| 17:28.30 | deavmi | in the garage.... |
| 17:28.38 | deavmi | old wifi adapter too XD |
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| 17:31.36 | julius_ | cables can be wonderfull for "servers" |
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| 17:34.57 | deavmi | They can |
| 17:35.09 | deavmi | I am just gonna get one of those wifi extenders |
| 17:35.11 | deavmi | with ethernet |
| 17:35.19 | deavmi | from TP Link |
| 17:35.49 | deavmi | So I do not have to rely and cr*p wifi adapters and also my switch and other devices can join my home network |
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| 17:43.05 | deavmi | anyone doing anything interesting here? |
| 17:43.08 | deavmi | With debian |
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| 17:43.48 | hanshenrik | why is netcat listening on port 37031 , rather than port 8888, as i explicitly requested, here? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/hn5uDJ99A5fgbLS~42w5vl5M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE= |
| 17:43.59 | deavmi | netcat -p 2121 |
| 17:44.00 | deavmi | ? |
| 17:44.07 | deavmi | Idk |
| 17:44.15 | deavmi | netcat -l -p [meport] |
| 17:44.29 | greycat | "This paste is password-protected." |
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| 17:45.09 | hanshenrik | greycat, huh, no idea how that happened, anyway, http://paste.debian.net/plain/927692 |
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| 17:45.47 | hanshenrik | well, -l -p 8888 worked as expected |
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| 17:46.02 | greycat | Yeah, was just about to type "you want -l -p 8888" |
| 17:46.03 | hanshenrik | guess thats what i get for using testing? :p |
| 17:46.16 | hanshenrik | uh, wasn't it just `-p 8888` in debian8? |
| 17:46.18 | greycat | No, it's what you get for not reading "nc -h" :) |
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| 18:05.16 | deavmi | ncat is like the better netcat :) |
| 18:05.41 | han-solo | well, nc itself is better :} |
| 18:05.44 | greycat | I hear good things about socat too. |
| 18:05.46 | castilma | can someone explain, whey texinfo-doc-nonfree is nonfree? |
| 18:06.08 | greycat | Probably the GNU FDL |
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| 18:07.05 | deavmi | socat can do bluetooth |
| 18:07.08 | deavmi | Ik one of them can |
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| 18:07.15 | deavmi | and ir |
| 18:07.17 | deavmi | I think |
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| 18:07.34 | castilma | greycat: thanks |
| 18:07.58 | han-solo | i sometimes use nc as an alternative to ftp :} |
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| 18:08.06 | han-solo | *sometimes* |
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| 18:08.38 | greycat | !gfdl |
| 18:08.38 | dpkg | [gfdl] The GNU "Free" Documentation License, considered <non-free> by Debian in some cases. Read the discussion at http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200309/msg00169.html and http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200304/msg00246.html . See the position statement at http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.html and resolution at http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001 |
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| 18:22.54 | Enrico_Menotti | I have a problem with my Debian installation on my laptop. Somewhat, a driver got broken. It's rt2x00usb, I think. I'd try to reinstall it. How to? |
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| 18:23.12 | julius2 | how do you know that a "driver" got broken? |
| 18:23.18 | julius2 | how do you break a driver? |
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| 18:23.48 | julius2 | assume that nobody else knows what you saw and what made you think that that is what happend. i would go even further, we cant see into your head |
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| 18:26.19 | Enrico_Menotti | Ok, I will try to explain better. |
| 18:26.41 | Enrico_Menotti | I have an external wifi card which is connected via usb. |
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| 18:27.49 | jhutchins | Enrico_Menotti: Let's find out the chipset with lsusb |
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| 18:29.43 | Enrico_Menotti | I don't have lsusb installed. I cannot install it since no wifi. From dmesg, I get: Chipset detected - rt: 2573, rf: 0002, rev: 000a. |
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| 18:31.17 | Enrico_Menotti | When I insert the device and do an ifup wlan0, I get the following: rt2x00usb_vendor_request: Error - Vendor Request 0x07 failed for offset 0x3000 with error -71. |
| 18:34.06 | Enrico_Menotti | I'd try to reinstall the non-free firmware from the Debian cd, but I don't know how to. |
| 18:35.00 | Enrico_Menotti | jhutchins Do these info allow some idea? |
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| 18:45.38 | greycat | So I just noticed ~/.xsession-errors has gotten a bit large, full of google-chrome complaiing that it can't launch dbus-launch. Should I install dbus-x11 to shut it up? |
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| 18:46.32 | han-solo | why do you use chrome? |
| 18:46.40 | han-solo | it eats most of the RAM anyway :} |
| 18:46.53 | greycat | because I'm not advanced enough to handle telnet as my primary web browser |
| 18:47.00 | han-solo | :} |
| 18:47.29 | han-solo | maybe there should be a new web browser |
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| 18:48.12 | ThePortWhisperer | yo |
| 18:48.37 | ThePortWhisperer | anyone have an idea why the following is taking a long time to run < grep -rli "brett" / 2>/dev/null > |
| 18:49.00 | ThePortWhisperer | box is like 5 gb hd and that -l should speed it a lot |
| 18:49.24 | greycat | I installed dbus-x11. We'll see if it makes things less noisy. |
| 18:49.33 | han-solo | hmm |
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| 18:53.17 | dankeast | so what's the security situation for stretch? i updated my laptop and it's fantastic... if i update my server and there's a dsa, does stretch get the patch? |
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| 18:53.58 | greycat | !testing security |
| 18:53.58 | dpkg | The testing release does not receive full security support until just before release. Up until that time, security updates can take a few days to arrive and will often be new upstream versions which may require you to spend significant time reconfiguring applications. Don't run 'testing' on things where good security support and stability are important. See <moving target>. |
| 18:53.58 | dTal | greycat: couldn't you just make an empty script named "dbus-launch"? it can't complain it can't run it then :p |
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| 18:55.12 | dankeast | are we "just before release" though? that bug list is doing pretty fast |
| 18:55.45 | dankeast | s/doing/dropping/ |
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| 19:04.08 | SuperTramp83 | Enrico_Menotti, sudo dpkg -i firmware-ralink |
| 19:04.32 | SuperTramp83 | But really a solution would be to get a decent dongle that doesn't require non-free firmware |
| 19:05.05 | Enrico_Menotti | I also have some problems with my cd-rom. It is not read anymore. |
| 19:05.19 | Enrico_Menotti | I fear the fastest solution would be re-installing the whole os. |
| 19:06.08 | SuperTramp83 | Enrico_Menotti, sometimes the oldschool method is indeed the fastest and bestest, heh. It's up to you.. |
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| 19:08.29 | simbalion | I am presently using xfce4 as my wm, and I was thinking of installing krusader which needs a ton of kde libraries. is there any disadvantage to installing those packages? Is it going to reconfigure my desktop or something? |
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| 19:08.55 | hanshenrik | . |
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| 19:10.03 | towo` | SuperTramp83, there are not many recent devices out, which doesn't require non-free firmware |
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| 19:12.26 | SuperTramp83 | towo`, true. The 5xxx and 9xxx series of Atheros 802.11n chipset work fine with free software. |
| 19:12.43 | SJ | anyone know |
| 19:12.51 | SJ | how to install gns3 on kali linux? |
| 19:13.05 | greycat | !kali |
| 19:13.06 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
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| 19:16.07 | SuperTramp83 | Enrico_Menotti, this one you can get for like 10 bucks -> TP-Link TP-WN722N. Just make sure the chipset is Atheros AR9271. :) |
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| 19:17.31 | Enrico_Menotti | SuperTramp83 Thank you, but I'm using Debian on an old pc. I will try to reinstall the whole thing again and if that fails, consider the option you proposed. |
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| 19:21.05 | Enrico_Menotti | Ok, I have an issue. I have the disk partitioned (it's a shame on me, but I wanted to keep the old Windows partition there.) I'm trying to reinstall Debian on its partition. So when the installer proposes to partition the disk, I asked it to leave the disk alone. But now it's complaining that no root file system is defined. What may I do? |
| 19:21.35 | SuperTramp83 | Enrico_Menotti, well, that's an external wifi usb dongle. Should work on any computer. yw |
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| 19:24.13 | Enrico_Menotti | Should I first erase the Debian partition? |
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| 19:49.30 | c0mrade | Anyone can volunteer helping in setting a complex web app, it's 90% done just publishing it seems to give me some trouble... I can provide remote access :P |
| 19:52.14 | mishehu | c0mrade: I doubt you'll get any takers. you might want to ask some specific questions OR offer up some money. |
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| 19:54.12 | c0mrade | meshehu: People that do open source are all about helping I think? Maybe? :P |
| 19:54.35 | vvor | what webapp's |
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| 19:55.30 | c0mrade | https://github.com/ornicar/lila/wiki/Lichess-Development-Onboarding |
| 19:55.36 | c0mrade | https://github.com/ornicar/lila |
| 19:55.56 | vvor | c0mrade: what's to setup... |
| 19:56.19 | c0mrade | You can check in the second link to get an overview. |
| 19:56.27 | c0mrade | And the first link an overview of the setup process. |
| 19:56.41 | c0mrade | I am trying to set it up on an amazon ec2 ubuntu instance. |
| 19:57.11 | greycat | Not seeing the Debian question here. |
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| 19:57.54 | petzup | how i connect to WIFI? |
| 19:58.23 | vvor | Not seeing the Debian question here :) |
| 19:58.43 | petzup | i am using Debian jessie |
| 20:00.10 | dutchfish | petzup, have you carefully read https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi ? |
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| 20:01.14 | vvor | petzup: gui? desktop-manager? |
| 20:01.41 | petzup | gui |
| 20:02.04 | petzup | i mean shell.. no gui |
| 20:02.25 | vvor | c0mrade: where are you stuck? |
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| 20:03.06 | c0mrade | vvor: Publishing the webside getting, 403 forbidding stuff. |
| 20:03.19 | c0mrade | tried nginx, tried apache, modified configs, don't know what's the thing... |
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| 20:06.16 | ikonia | c0mrade: you just said this was on ubuntu a few minutes ago |
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| 20:06.33 | ikonia | 19:50 < c0mrade> Anyone can volunteer helping in setting a complex web app on an ubuntu server, it's 90% done |
| 20:06.36 | ikonia | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.40 | ikonia | what are you actually using - for real, |
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| 20:07.17 | c0mrade | Right now apache2 |
| 20:07.40 | ikonia | no, thats not an os |
| 20:07.43 | ikonia | what OS is this running on |
| 20:08.00 | c0mrade | ubuntu 16 |
| 20:08.07 | ikonia | so why are you asking in #debian |
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| 20:08.18 | ikonia | (and about 10 other channels) |
| 20:08.24 | vvor | petzup: try nmcli d wifi connect MYSSID password 12345678 iface wlan0 |
| 20:08.46 | c0mrade | because regardless of the channel smart people could be in any of them. |
| 20:08.58 | c0mrade | ikonia: Are you investigating me? :P |
| 20:09.02 | ikonia | no |
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| 20:09.13 | ikonia | this channel is #debian - it's for debian support not "please login to my ubuntu box and do my ubuntu work for me" |
| 20:09.29 | c0mrade | It's not ubuntu related. |
| 20:09.39 | c0mrade | It's linux and server management. |
| 20:09.46 | greycat | Then go to ##linux. |
| 20:09.49 | c0mrade | And you find those kind of people everywhere. |
| 20:09.51 | ikonia | he's already there |
| 20:09.59 | greycat | Then leave this channel. |
| 20:10.00 | c0mrade | Well debian is a Linux distro so a debian expert would know as well. |
| 20:10.00 | ikonia | debian |
| 20:10.03 | ikonia | c0mrade: no, this channel is for DEBIAN |
| 20:10.05 | ikonia | not linux, or ubuntu, |
| 20:10.19 | c0mrade | Like I said, I might still find people who know stuff. |
| 20:10.35 | ikonia | no, thats called spam |
| 20:10.39 | ikonia | as I've told you in multiple other channels |
| 20:10.52 | ikonia | pick the channel that is related to your problem and ask a clear question |
| 20:11.03 | ikonia | this is not the channel you need |
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| 20:11.55 | c0mrade | Might not be the channel, but I might find people that know stuff like I said, I mean a user that joins #debian or any other channel, he could be in #linux and other 100 channels including all linux distors so yeah. |
| 20:12.46 | ikonia | c0mrade: you're posting offtopic spam |
| 20:13.02 | ikonia | check the rules of the channel, this is not what this channel is for |
| 20:13.23 | c0mrade | I am trying to do what's best for me. |
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| 20:13.36 | teraflops | also crossposting is rude |
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| 20:14.02 | greycat | And we will do what is best for us. |
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| 20:14.39 | user11 | hi |
| 20:14.54 | user11 | where i can get debian wiki offline? |
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| 20:17.00 | vvor | c0mrade: If you get stuck during the install process the most suitable place to seek help is the #lichess IRC channel on irc.freenode.org |
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| 21:04.20 | expert975 | I love Debian 9 <3 |
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| 21:04.38 | Cronus | how come |
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| 21:11.35 | hanshenrik | Cronus, because dd has `status=progress` now |
| 21:11.44 | LambdaComplex | I have a Debian VPS (with nginx), and I'd like to monitor network traffic/bandwidth usage and display the information as graphs/tables on a password-protected web page. Can anyone recommend the best way of doing this? |
| 21:12.08 | Cronus | oo |
| 21:12.17 | LambdaComplex | Seems like ntopng does the trick, but maybe someone will have a better suggestion |
| 21:12.30 | Cronus | cacti, zabbix, nagios |
| 21:13.32 | hanshenrik | Cronus, (also you can actually `apt install firefox-esr` now, and get something that actually manage to execute the majority of the javascript on the web) |
| 21:13.41 | hanshenrik | (and css3..) |
| 21:14.04 | Cronus | dont get that, i only use debian as a server os |
| 21:14.51 | hanshenrik | well, you can install mariadb-server and be backed by the debian security team |
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| 21:16.03 | Cronus | oh? |
| 21:16.03 | vvor | LambdaComplex: collectd + influxdb + grafana |
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| 21:16.27 | EvilMachine | Hi. Do I have to do something special, to allow logging in via SSH or serial console? Because in both cases, while logging in directly works, doing so via SSH or serial console fails with âinvalid passwordâ. |
| 21:17.03 | yeehi_ | Help! Qt - which package do I install to get Qt5? qt5-default? |
| 21:17.14 | yeehi_ | Is that sufficient? |
| 21:17.16 | ksk | EvilMachine: do you try to login as root? I think root is not allowed to login via password (only key based) by default |
| 21:17.34 | EvilMachine | ksk: Both root and the normal user. |
| 21:17.56 | EvilMachine | ksk: Maybe one has to be in a special group? Or something? |
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| 21:18.42 | LambdaComplex | vvor: well, google shows that's not an unheard of stack. what's the advantage of that method over an all-in-one solution like ntopng or the stuff Cronus mentioned? |
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| 21:20.59 | vvor | LambdaComplex: collectd very lite and pushes. |
| 21:22.53 | vvor | LambdaComplex: You then get the data from influxdb and can add all belles and whistles. |
| 21:23.32 | vvor | or not :) |
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| 21:23.57 | `Kevin | vvor: have you made use of bosun yet? |
| 21:25.34 | `Kevin | actually not sure if it fully supports influx yet |
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| 21:26.56 | vvor | `Kevin: No did not have a chance yet. |
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| 22:06.21 | LambdaComplex | vvor: I might try it! |
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| 22:24.41 | SuperPhly | OK, got a really puzzling issue here. /etc/os-release is reporting VERSION_ID="9", /etc/debian_version is showing 9.0 -- but sources.list has "wheezy" all over the place. |
| 22:27.00 | vvor | LambdaComplex: http://www.tecmint.com/configure-collectd-as-central-monitoring-server-for-clients/2/ |
| 22:27.25 | vvor | LambdaComplex: HTH |
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| 22:34.47 | LambdaComplex | vvor: Guess I'm about to find out! |
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| 22:45.17 | tw | ,v openocd |
| 22:45.18 | judd | Package: openocd on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.5.0-1; jessie: 0.8.0-4; jessie-backports: 0.9.0-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.9.0-1+b2; sid: 0.9.0-1+b2 |
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| 22:54.06 | hanshenrik | `apt policy codeblocks | pastebinit` gives me https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/IFWjfJireE3TDZcMdc02Ul5M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE=/raw?password=FY9u4HqZgQWRWuUlSdWu - how can i change candidate to "16.01svn11019-1 500" ? or blacklist the codeblocks from debian repo? or something |
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| 23:11.44 | Rumpelstiltskin | Hello there! |
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| 23:19.37 | karim_ | hello |
| 23:20.00 | karim_ | what is the command to make a deb package from a make install ? |
| 23:20.05 | karim_ | I forgot it |
| 23:20.58 | ChmEarl | karim_, dh_make? |
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| 23:21.41 | karim_ | i think it's checkinstall or something |
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| 23:53.15 | newlinux | Hi |
| 23:53.33 | newlinux | I cant get my connection working, host google.com |
| 23:53.42 | newlinux | connection timed out; no servers could reached |
| 23:53.44 | newlinux | what should I do? |
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| 23:54.21 | vutral | can i use /etc/network/interfaces to setup a gre tunnel for ipv6 ? |
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| 23:58.16 | newlinux | what can I do about this? |
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