| 00:00.55 | Epakai | it's not ready yet |
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| 00:01.28 | rudi_s | p000000000: release-critical bugs |
| 00:01.39 | p000000000 | thanks rudi |
| 00:01.55 | rudi_s | Which of course can be fixed by anybody ;-) |
| 00:02.33 | p000000000 | they don't need me sabotaging it ;) |
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| 00:03.28 | Bl4ckC0r3 | Hi |
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| 00:04.20 | ILikeUnity7 | Hi! I'm considering switching to Debian from Ubuntu. Any suggestions? |
| 00:05.03 | bazhang | get the net install |
| 00:05.56 | ILikeUnity7 | I'm wondering about support. There's a lot of support for Ubuntu, but what about Debian? |
| 00:06.07 | bazhang | samers |
| 00:06.46 | ILikeUnity7 | ? |
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| 00:07.22 | ILikeUnity7 | Hi, Guest61332! |
| 00:07.41 | SuperTramp83 | ILikeUnity7, there is no much difference, except maybe, depending on your DE, you will need to learn 4 terminal commands (apt).. |
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| 00:07.48 | ILikeUnity7 | Nice name! Much better than Guest |
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| 00:08.07 | ILikeUnity7 | I use the command line a lot, in fact I'm using a CLI IRC client. |
| 00:08.23 | SuperTramp83 | then, you'll be just fine |
| 00:08.36 | ILikeUnity7 | What about Support? |
| 00:08.51 | ILikeUnity7 | Any "AskDebian"? |
| 00:08.55 | SuperTramp83 | there is IRC and the forums |
| 00:09.09 | ILikeUnity7 | Ok... I hope they can help me. |
| 00:09.11 | SuperTramp83 | unofficial forums, but still good to ask |
| 00:09.15 | ILikeUnity7 | ok |
| 00:09.41 | ILikeUnity7 | I'm going to chat about Ubuntu now, bye! |
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| 00:14.09 | Aristar | FWIW if anyone was following my inquiry about new initramfs packages causing local-block hooks to repeat 10x before booting I think I found the solution: noresume=y in cmdline |
| 00:15.11 | Aristar | pretty sure it was hanging on attempting to find a resume |
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| 00:19.06 | Aristar | and actually there's a function referencing "/scripts/local-block" hmm |
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| 00:20.50 | Aristar | hmm "we also need to keep invoking the local-block scripts in case there are devices stacked on top of those." so that's why it repeats attempts |
| 00:23.37 | Aristar | not entirely sure how local-block is generated but it's not in /usr/share/initramfs-tools nor /etc/initramfs-tools but /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local references it |
| 00:24.24 | Aristar | maybe generated from a sourced functions file |
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| 00:26.10 | Aristar | ah probably from /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hook-functions |
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| 00:31.51 | ILikeUnity7 | hi |
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| 00:31.59 | bazhang | hi |
| 00:32.06 | ILikeUnity7 | So, I have a question. |
| 00:32.15 | bazhang | go ahead |
| 00:32.27 | ILikeUnity7 | Is the order (in stability) of Debians?: Stable, Testing, Unstable |
| 00:32.44 | ILikeUnity7 | With Stable as the most stable |
| 00:33.02 | ILikeUnity7 | I just want to confirm. |
| 00:33.06 | petemc | yes |
| 00:33.16 | ILikeUnity7 | Thanks! I have to leave, bye |
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| 00:35.21 | ILikeUnity7 | Hi! How easily can problems be fixed on Debian? I'm planning on using Testing. |
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| 00:35.48 | bazhang | ILikeUnity7, did you read the topic here |
| 00:35.58 | ILikeUnity7 | ? |
| 00:36.12 | bazhang | did you read the topic on this channel |
| 00:36.17 | ILikeUnity7 | What is it/ |
| 00:36.20 | ILikeUnity7 | *? |
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| 00:36.49 | whiterabbit1060 | hello |
| 00:36.56 | bazhang | testing discussion is on another network |
| 00:36.56 | ILikeUnity7 | I've read them now and hi whiterabbit1060 |
| 00:38.30 | whiterabbit1060 | how is everyone today? |
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| 00:41.07 | whiterabbit1060 | hey |
| 00:41.13 | Aristar | hmm, it seems initramfs hook-functions are missing a case for "zfs_member" being returned by $(blkid -o value -s TYPE "${dev_node}") (which is called if [ "${FSTYPE}" = "unknown" ] ) |
| 00:41.24 | Aristar | since it doesn't return FSTYPE= |
| 00:42.04 | Aristar | it expects something like FSTYPE=ext4 |
| 00:43.17 | Aristar | well i can fix this function but not sure if it should be overridden in another zfs-specific file belonging to zfs packages |
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| 00:45.11 | Aristar | but whats odd is this install i'm booted on has no zfs mounts but theres pools on other disks in the machine, maybe related to local-block script causing odd looping behavior |
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| 00:49.14 | Aristar | actually nevermind, if this function fails it would spit out an error on update-initramfs, must be somewhere else. i'll stop spamming until i find the real cause and report it through the proper channels |
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| 01:36.31 | hanasaki | l (192.168.1.3) 3101.093 ms !H 3100.918 ms !H 3100.845 ms !H <= what are the H's? |
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| 01:42.09 | Contoso | howdy, I'm a bit of a debian (linux in general) noob and I'm trying to install iperf3 on a device I don't have root on. I downloaded the iperf3.deb package, extracted it with dpkg-deb and am looking in that directory and I see a file there called iperf3 and I don't really know what to do with it. |
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| 01:59.14 | Papillon | odd question, but why isn't this package available for kfreebsd. The ones on stretch and jessie aren't available, but most architectures aren't available either, but sid seems to have all architectures but kfreebsd, and I was wondering why https://packages.debian.org/sid/gdm3 |
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| 02:03.55 | themill | Papillon: kfreebsd-* isn't in an arch in jessie or stretch |
| 02:04.17 | Papillon | jessie only has a handful of architectures |
| 02:04.32 | Papillon | like amd64 and amd64 and amd64, but that's not the question |
| 02:04.43 | themill | if by handful you mean 10? |
| 02:05.18 | themill | (which is all the release architectures) |
| 02:05.21 | Papillon | 3 of them arm, two mips, two ppc |
| 02:05.27 | Papillon | two x86 |
| 02:06.04 | Papillon | so ~5 architectures, x86, arm, ppc, s390x, and mips |
| 02:06.08 | Papillon | but that's not the question |
| 02:06.18 | themill | so 10. |
| 02:06.32 | Papillon | what are the 5 others? |
| 02:06.32 | themill | You're using a different definition of architecture to the rest of Debian. |
| 02:06.47 | Papillon | amd64 is an extension of x86 |
| 02:06.51 | Papillon | but that's not the question |
| 02:06.58 | themill | It's a different architecture. |
| 02:07.10 | Papillon | sid has packages for most of the architectures but not kfreebsd and I was wondering why |
| 02:07.15 | Papillon | it's an x86 extension |
| 02:07.18 | themill | It's a different architecture. |
| 02:07.21 | themill | You're using a different definition of architecture to the rest of Debian. |
| 02:07.43 | themill | gdm3 seems to not be available on any non-linux arch |
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| 02:08.47 | Papillon | so not hurd either |
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| 02:09.22 | Papillon | I was wondering why |
| 02:09.37 | themill | Architecture: linux-any |
| 02:10.02 | bazhang | HURD? |
| 02:10.08 | themill | It probably uses an interface that hasn't been implemented on non-linux (quite possibly cgroups so that the session can be killed cleanly) |
| 02:10.15 | bazhang | as in debian/URD? |
| 02:10.18 | bazhang | H |
| 02:10.23 | Papillon | gnuhurd? |
| 02:10.50 | bazhang | debian has one, as well as kfreebsd iirc |
| 02:11.15 | Papillon | https://www.google.com/#q=gnu+hurd |
| 02:11.25 | themill | bazhang: not helping |
| 02:11.26 | bazhang | I bet its supported not on this server |
| 02:11.27 | Papillon | wouldn't that cover every program? |
| 02:11.38 | Papillon | or every daemon/service |
| 02:12.00 | bazhang | themill, an honest error, he mentioned HURD |
| 02:12.15 | bazhang | my apologies themill |
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| 02:13.20 | dax | from gdm3's changelog, in 2014: "Remove kfreebsd-any from Architecture. (Closes: #602724, #601106, #612157, #733546)" |
| 02:13.28 | dax | have not looked at those bugs, but probably a good place to start |
| 02:13.39 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/602724 in gdm3 (closed, confirmed): «gdm3: login problem in kfreebsd-i386»; severity: grave; opened: 2010-11-07; last modified: 2016-02-22. |
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| 02:16.18 | nezZario | Hey guys |
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| 02:18.46 | nezZario | Is using a bridge the easiest way to share my connection to a VoIP phone (polycom vvx 400)? I'm connecting to the public internet over WiFi... so it's AP <--> wlan0 <--> (me) <--> eth0 <--cat5--> polycom |
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| 02:20.00 | nezZario | I used to use my linux PC as a wireless repeater and I just don't remember all this bridging stuff |
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| 02:31.22 | UltimateTrolling | while dax and other fed agents try to cover up the truth, as ordered by Trump, they cannot succeed. |
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| 02:32.27 | UltimateTrolling | The United Klans of America has donated two new servers to freenode this week, and the CIA has discovered they are loaded with malware which allows the Klan to k-line jews |
| 02:32.46 | UltimateTrolling | Trump has ordered this information destroyed, and dax and mst are fed agents here to destroy it |
| 02:33.04 | s0lar1s | ^lol |
| 02:33.24 | mst | http://trout.me.uk/foom.jpg |
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| 03:06.08 | theyankees707 | Does anyone know of a very user friendly software for displaying websites.Yeah, I will be traveling without connection |
| 03:07.13 | bazhang | theyankees707, such as an internet browser? |
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| 03:11.00 | theyankees707 | bazhang:no i cant use a browser I wont have a internet connection.I will be traveling on the road.Again i wont have a connection |
| 03:11.44 | ddiso | Will firefox-esr (version 52) make it to stretch before release? Asking because the current 47 doesn't support the netflix drm but 52 would. |
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| 03:12.32 | bazhang | theyankees707, so save the page, view offline |
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| 03:42.41 | VentGrey | Hello, does anyone know if Debian has packaged already the MATE 1.18 desktop? or they are waiting for stretch to be released? |
| 03:43.44 | dvs | ,v mate |
| 03:43.45 | judd | No package named 'mate' was found in amd64. |
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| 03:45.31 | blacksyke | ,v mate-desktop |
| 03:45.32 | judd | Package: mate-desktop on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 1.8.1+dfsg1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.8.1+dfsg1-3+deb8u1; stretch: 1.16.1-1; sid: 1.16.1-1 |
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| 03:45.48 | VentGrey | I found the same in the tracker |
| 03:46.08 | blacksyke | the answer is that version 1.18 is not yet packaged, sid has 1.16 |
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| 03:49.11 | VentGrey | well, time to download sources, debianize & package them XD |
| 03:49.45 | VentGrey | Another theory I have is that someone already packaged them but hasn't uploaded |
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| 04:20.27 | plasmoduck | how do I check what graphics driver I am using> |
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| 04:27.39 | alekz | plasmoduck: you can find it in lspci -v output |
| 04:28.49 | awal1 | lspci | grep VGA |
| 04:29.02 | awal1 | much more precise |
| 04:29.56 | alekz | yeah that's easier |
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| 04:39.49 | plasmoduck | shows my card, not the driver |
| 04:39.52 | zykotick9 | awal1: but, the "lspci | grep VGA" doesn't actually show the "Kernel drive in use" line... |
| 04:40.10 | plasmoduck | I just wanna make sure im using proprietry nvidia driver, not noveau |
| 04:40.12 | zykotick9 | plasmoduck: just use "lspci -v" and find it. |
| 04:40.52 | plasmoduck | lspci is to display hardware, not drivers. |
| 04:41.15 | awal1 | zykotick9, hmmm, I may have missed "using" vs have(ing) :P |
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| 04:41.30 | plasmoduck | Kernel driver in use: nvidia |
| 04:41.31 | awal1 | well, lspci + lsmod ... |
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| 04:51.47 | Aristar | can apt install be told to install one of the alternate dependencies (ones separated with a pipe) somehow? I'd rather not specify both packages so the dependency chain can remain intact |
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| 04:53.36 | themill | Just tell it to install the alternative you want |
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| 04:55.35 | Aristar | won't that mark it as manually installed? |
| 04:56.07 | Aristar | or is apt smart enough to link the satisfied dependency if calling it to install both? |
| 04:56.30 | Aristar | (when there's multiple packages that can satisfy a dependency) |
| 04:56.48 | dax | it will mark it manually installed. i usually do that and then apt-mark it back to automatic |
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| 04:57.01 | dax | wouldn't surprise me if there's a simpler way, but I don't know it |
| 04:57.12 | themill | Aristar: aptitude can do it in one step |
| 04:57.28 | Aristar | hmmmm |
| 04:57.47 | Aristar | right i forgot about aptitude's dependency resolver, hopefully it links them properly |
| 04:57.54 | themill | aptitude install foo 'foo2&M' |
| 04:58.04 | themill | !aptitude ops |
| 04:58.04 | dpkg | Aptitude can perform different operations from the one command line: "aptitude install foo bar_" purges bar and installs foo. This is handy for dealing with broken packages. Other postfix operators include: + install, - remove, _ purge, = hold, : temp hold, &M markauto, &m unmarkauto, +M install and markauto. man aptitude for more details. These can also be used as a prefix operator at the [Y/n/q/?] resolver prompt. |
| 04:58.06 | Aristar | oh, interesting |
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| 04:58.31 | themill | actually +M not &M |
| 04:58.39 | Aristar | i thought aptitude was being phased out or somehing but it's useful for tracking dependency chains |
| 04:58.47 | Aristar | nice i'll try that |
| 04:58.58 | Aristar | thanks |
| 04:59.03 | themill | it has fewer people working on it and apt is learning some of aptitude's tricks with time |
| 04:59.25 | themill | it's still very much alive though as having alternate resolvers to help you get out of trouble is quite handy |
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| 05:01.03 | Aristar | yeah and i just saw one of the recommends "debtags" i never knew existed. i always wondered if there was a way to view packages by category (tags, in debian terms). i've been grepping apt-cache dumpavail for tags |
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| 05:01.40 | Aristar | suggests* rather |
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| 05:03.52 | Aristar | also wish there was a way to specify the depth of recommends or suggests if you pass --install-recommends or --install-suggests but there doesn't seem to be a way, though maybe aptitude can |
| 05:04.53 | Aristar | suggests goes through a ridiculously long tree of suggests of the suggests |
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| 05:09.16 | xormor | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBsKakmW0fs |
| 05:09.52 | xormor | "The Computer Chronicles - Hard Disk Drives" (1985) |
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| 07:15.16 | abff | !bugs |
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| 08:26.31 | pingfloyd | !moo |
| 08:26.31 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo; aplay /usr/lib/libreoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
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| 08:34.39 | Jopair | "/msg dpkg guidelines" |
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| 08:37.17 | Jopair | anyone know of a good assembler channel? |
| 08:37.21 | vutral | hm |
| 08:37.23 | vutral | problems |
| 08:38.21 | vutral | i added the following to /etc/fstab /home/usr /usr none bind 0 0 i get error /root/usr not found at boot |
| 08:38.30 | vutral | it works in the running system |
| 08:38.33 | vutral | but not during boot |
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| 08:39.14 | Jopair | vutral what are you trying to do? |
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| 08:41.41 | vutral | Jopair: i moved /usr to another partition |
| 08:41.53 | vutral | i try to mount it to /usr |
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| 08:43.30 | nicezfs | Jopair: Tried #asm .. ? :d |
| 08:44.22 | Jopair | #vutral So it is not showing up and you want it to? |
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| 08:45.20 | vutral | well i can mount /usr manually in the recovery system |
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| 08:45.31 | vutral | but it doesnt like to boot normally |
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| 08:47.58 | Jopair | vutral: I'm not following what it is you are trying to do, or what the problem is. Are you saying that /usr is on another partition and you want it not to be anymore? |
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| 09:45.34 | plasmoduck | !nvidia |
| 09:45.34 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 11:14.10 | pldiem | I cannot print on a wireless printer, every time I try printer "says" different page size than the injected one, can anyone help me? |
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| 11:20.28 | fredl | Grr, hate having to ghost this guy who keeps taking my nickname all the time |
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| 11:22.10 | fredl | hey folks, I'm trying to install powerdns-backend-mysql from backports |
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| 11:22.38 | fredl | but it comes with message: |
| 11:22.40 | fredl | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 11:22.41 | fredl | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.02 | fredl | I have mariadb installed |
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| 11:23.41 | fredl | I guess, but not certain how to check, that mariadb provides mysql-client |
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| 11:24.07 | fredl | anybody know how I can check what exactly is going on here? |
| 11:24.09 | nkuttler | fredl: ask in #freenode how to protect your nick |
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| 11:24.40 | nkuttler | fredl: please pastebin apt-cache policy and apt-cache policy pdns-backend-mysql |
| 11:24.41 | fredl | nkuttler - oh you mean as in permanently protecting it? I already have a password and know how to ghost someone using it, it's just a pain. |
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| 11:26.21 | fredl | https://paste.debian.net/927877/ |
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| 11:27.55 | fredl | So I'm trying apt-get -t jessie-backports install pdns-backend-mysql |
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| 11:28.58 | fredl | and this is output https://paste.debian.net/927878/ |
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| 11:29.50 | nkuttler | fredl: i'm not sure what that package does, but if mariadb is compatible you can use equivs |
| 11:29.53 | nkuttler | !equivs |
| 11:29.53 | dpkg | equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell <apt> you really have installed (through some other means) the package. aptitude install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, see also <usrlocal>. A better plan is often to adapt the Debian packages to your needs, ask me about <package recompile> <uupdate> <ssb>. |
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| 11:30.46 | fredl | hmm, gotcha. But shouldn't that really be provided in the package itself, in other words should I file a bug for this you think? |
| 11:31.31 | nkuttler | fredl: doesn't hurt to check the bts for existing bugs, or creating one that will be wontfix |
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| 11:32.58 | fredl | hmm, just thinking... this is on a new server, I think I already have an existing server with mariadb / powerdns |
| 11:33.03 | fredl | I'll check |
| 11:33.47 | fredl | aha on older server mariadb is not from backports |
| 11:34.24 | fredl | so that could mean something in the backports deb changed that broke this |
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| 11:34.35 | fredl | I'll check the bts |
| 11:35.13 | fredl | heh https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=828019 |
| 11:35.15 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/828019 in pdns-backend-mysql (open): «pdns-backend-mysql from jessie-backports depends on mysql-client»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-06-23; last modified: 2016-07-01. |
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| 11:36.13 | fredl | open since June 2016 :( |
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| 11:39.33 | fredl | hmm shouldnt it be possible to undo a backports install like 'apt-get install mariadb-server/jessie' ? |
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| 12:03.32 | mcint | 8.7/jessie, I can't figure out why `column` is seg faulting. Similar tools [colrm, cut] don't, valgrind has some info (useful in the right hands), but I want to do what I can before talking to maintainers |
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| 12:05.17 | mcint | I probably can't purge/reinstall util-linux |
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| 12:12.20 | mcint | only 1 host of many running jessie is affected |
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| 12:27.03 | elwisp | looking for an equalizer or something for turning down the bass systemwide, tried the alsaequal but it does nothing |
| 12:27.16 | elwisp | Google has failed me |
| 12:28.31 | nkuttler | elwisp: don't you use pulse? |
| 12:28.55 | elwisp | nkuttler: that would explain alsaequal not working tho |
| 12:28.58 | elwisp | but i have no idea |
| 12:29.17 | elwisp | seems like pulse is default so im probably on pulse then |
| 12:29.18 | nkuttler | elwisp: ps auxw | grep pulse |
| 12:29.23 | nkuttler | yeah |
| 12:29.34 | elwisp | looks like pulse is running yeah |
| 12:29.36 | mcint | pulseaudio-equalizer |
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| 12:30.47 | elwisp | mcint: hmm installed it, but what is it called? |
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| 12:31.45 | nkuttler | elwisp: /usr/share/doc/package, apt-cache show package, dpkg -L package | grep bin, etc |
| 12:33.50 | elwisp | using i3wm |
| 12:34.01 | elwisp | so i dunno what the binary is named heh |
| 12:34.23 | mcint | nkuttler: I've been wondering how to do that for years. guess I need to rtfm(s) |
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| 12:37.50 | elwisp | There was an error connecting to pulseaudio, please make sure you have the pulseaudio dbus module loaded, exiting... |
| 12:37.55 | elwisp | that was unexpected |
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| 12:40.56 | mcint | elwisp: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#Equalizer |
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| 12:42.33 | elwisp | yeah, dosent seem to work |
| 12:42.38 | elwisp | perhaps need to reboot |
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| 12:43.14 | elwisp | aah works now |
| 12:43.19 | elwisp | because i was trying as root :) |
| 12:45.35 | elwisp | dosent do anything unfortunately :( |
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| 12:53.14 | mcint | pacmd is informative, >>> dump |
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| 12:56.30 | elwisp | https://zerobin.net/?242a4b45dd5f90d6#aYMwz6EtRZP2mBvHqvZIt3MidKBpD3DyZykzZOw5uk0= |
| 12:56.57 | elwisp | that would suggest im using alsa? |
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| 13:00.51 | |ntegra| | heya |
| 13:01.03 | |ntegra| | how do I add this:: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/johntyree/3331662/raw/bd76396b91a608fb4df12435f097a0c0d834880a/getBlockLists.sh |
| 13:01.22 | |ntegra| | to my /etc/hosts file exactly? |
| 13:01.52 | twostone | Again, what would you like to achieve, and why? |
| 13:02.14 | elwisp | |ntegra|: just redirect the output to it with append |
| 13:02.34 | elwisp | twostone: are you asking me? |
| 13:02.38 | twostone | yes. |
| 13:02.44 | twostone | no. |
| 13:02.48 | |ntegra| | that simple? it looks like I could > send it to hosts.deny |
| 13:02.53 | twostone | sorry, misread. |
| 13:03.01 | |ntegra| | hoping that it works a treat ofc |
| 13:03.02 | elwisp | :) |
| 13:03.24 | twostone | Integra: What would you like to achieve with that? |
| 13:03.43 | |ntegra| | "bugger off lawziez?" |
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| 13:03.59 | |ntegra| | "bugger off spyziez?" |
| 13:04.20 | elwisp | looks like a good ol shitlist |
| 13:04.23 | twostone | Wouldn't dpi be better in such cases? |
| 13:04.45 | |ntegra| | dots per interchurr? |
| 13:04.53 | twostone | deep packet inspection. |
| 13:05.15 | plasmoduck | how can I set different wallpapers on my 3 monitors? |
| 13:05.29 | elwisp | twostone: i would guess its just to deny incoming traffic from shady ips |
| 13:05.29 | plasmoduck | using mate de |
| 13:05.38 | |ntegra| | you can check my back pocket, but I've already raided your sides and front pocket |
| 13:06.07 | |ntegra| | thnx 4 the tip |
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| 13:07.18 | twostone | If you're that paranoid, use a properly configured iptables with squid, unbound and suricata. |
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| 13:29.29 | twostone | via DHCP would be easiest. Just bring up the interface. |
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| 17:05.20 | AtheroS__ | hello, i get /lib/x86_64/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.21' not found, when i try to run a game on debian jessie, use nvidia driver from jessie-backports |
| 17:05.34 | AtheroS__ | thanks for any help |
| 17:06.27 | AtheroS__ | it opens a steam window with error code 1 |
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| 17:13.52 | alekz | AtheroS__: that doesn't look like a problem with the nvidia driver |
| 17:14.02 | twostone | It probably still refers to 32bit libs, done that in the past. |
| 17:14.25 | alekz | yeap |
| 17:14.32 | alekz | that's my bet as well |
| 17:14.53 | alekz | try with ia32 and lib32 AtheroS__ |
| 17:17.05 | AtheroS__ | i found the solution, i needed a newer version of libstdc++6, the libstdc++.so.6.0.22 |
| 17:18.41 | twostone | good luck. |
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| 17:50.00 | hid3 | Greetings everyone. I am running Debian (9.0, the testing). I run a Windows machine on the same box. What solutions would you offer? The primary resource focus would be of course for Debian box, for the Windows machine I will need some CPU power (very little actually), USB port passed, 1 Gigabyte of memory and around 15 gigabytes of disk space. |
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| 17:54.24 | alekz | hid3: I'd virtualize windows |
| 17:55.24 | twostone | what do you want to do with your box? |
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| 17:57.15 | dirac1 | Hi Guys, i'm new to debian and i want to know if i can install a grsec Kernel before my Debian installatio and how to do it? |
| 17:58.48 | alekz | hi dirac1 |
| 17:58.51 | hid3 | alekz: yeah, I know I need to virtualize it. But what software should I use for that? I've never used any virtualization before/ever |
| 17:58.55 | alekz | take a look over here https://wiki.debian.org/grsecurity |
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| 17:59.03 | alekz | oh hid3 |
| 17:59.06 | alekz | I use virtualbox |
| 17:59.43 | dirac1 | and.. debian 8 has systemd right? |
| 17:59.50 | missmbob | hid3: definitely virtualbox |
| 17:59.57 | missmbob | dirac1: yes |
| 18:00.01 | alekz | yes dirac1 |
| 18:00.38 | alekz | dirac1: if you don't like systemd, you can google for Devuan |
| 18:00.54 | hid3 | is that virtualbox a plug-and-play solution (I mean, in official apt repositories)? |
| 18:00.58 | dirac1 | I'm ok with systemd ( "ok" ). |
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| 18:01.18 | alekz | hid3: apt-get install virtualbox |
| 18:01.22 | alekz | that's all you need |
| 18:01.23 | hid3 | that's great |
| 18:01.45 | missmbob | hid3: in testing you need to add another source. read this https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox |
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| 18:01.59 | hid3 | Will it be possibe to passthrough a USB device/port for it? The software I need to run has got a hardware USB key... |
| 18:02.05 | alekz | didn't know for testing |
| 18:02.17 | missmbob | hid3: yes |
| 18:02.21 | alekz | it is possible |
| 18:02.29 | hid3 | will add, not a problem! I just don't want to compile, etc... |
| 18:02.35 | hid3 | another apt source is not a big deal |
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| 18:22.40 | thiras | is testing branch rolling release? |
| 18:23.18 | missmbob | no |
| 18:24.39 | hid3 | What do I need to make USB3 ports work with Debian? |
| 18:25.19 | missmbob | nothing |
| 18:25.21 | jelly | hid3, they're supposed to work. |
| 18:25.24 | jelly | !ask |
| 18:25.24 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 18:26.05 | hid3 | That's strange. Since my system has got 2x USB3 ports. When I plug in there a device, nothing happens. If I plug it into USB2 port, it is being detected |
| 18:26.07 | jhutchins | thiras: No, there is no rolling relese of Debian. |
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| 18:27.39 | jelly | hid3, which hardware platform? Perhaps it's too new and requires newer drivers (a newer kernel than the default one) |
| 18:28.06 | hid3 | jelly, it's a HP Microserver Gen8. Running Debian 9.0 |
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| 18:29.43 | jelly | hid3, which specific model? Check if the vendor has firmware updates. Check if something usb related is disabled in bios. |
| 18:30.14 | jelly | debian 9.0 is not out yet, you're on stretch, but that also means you have a relatively recent kernel. |
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| 18:32.33 | hid3 | well, as far as I have checked, everything was up to date and enabled. Not much that I need USB3, just setting up a new system and was wondering.. |
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| 18:34.08 | jelly | new hardware often has subtle differences from standards and needs hardcoded quirks in respective drivers. |
| 18:35.18 | jelly | hid3, best file a bug report for linux the kernel package, missing hw support |
| 18:35.28 | jelly | the* linux* kernel package |
| 18:35.46 | dirac1 | Hello guys i want to install debian on my computer, but i already have a home folder with other user and i want to maintain this user |
| 18:35.51 | hid3 | well, I'm not so sure it's "missing hw support". Maybe I'm just too lame to use it |
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| 18:36.08 | dirac1 | How do i define this user in my new debian installation?. |
| 18:36.33 | jelly | hid3, maybe. Does anything happen in "dmesg" output when plugging, and when unplugging, a device in a usb3 port? |
| 18:36.48 | vutral | dirac1: useradd easiest |
| 18:36.48 | hid3 | nope, absolutely nothing! |
| 18:36.57 | hid3 | I was watching /var/log/messages |
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| 18:37.13 | hid3 | and if I plug/unplug the same device to USB2.0 port, messages appear |
| 18:37.19 | jelly | /var/log/kern.log has less cruft |
| 18:37.20 | dirac1 | vutral, just.. adding my username? ex: "useradd Nick" |
| 18:37.27 | dirac1 | But.. what about my homefolder? |
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| 18:37.36 | dirac1 | I don't have to modify the fstab? |
| 18:37.49 | vutral | dirac1: you can just specify the home directory instead of making a new |
| 18:37.58 | jelly | dirac1, are you adding a new filesystem? |
| 18:38.07 | vutral | dirac1: theres an option to useradd |
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| 18:39.11 | dirac1 | I have Arch on the system with an /home/nick in a separated partition now i want a new partition with debian's "/"/ |
| 18:39.13 | jelly | hid3, then it's pretty clear either the kernel does not support the hw, or it doesn't support it automatically as it ought to. |
| 18:40.16 | hid3 | alright, will try to get my hands on that USB3 a bit later... |
| 18:40.56 | hid3 | Now back to the original case - once I've set up virtualbox-5.1, how do I access it? I mean, how do I create a VM, install it? I suppose I need some client software but I can't find it anywhere... |
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| 18:41.38 | thiras | thanks jhutchins |
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| 18:46.12 | mtn | hid3: vbox has a great manual on their website. |
| 18:46.58 | missmbob | hid3: just launch virtualbox from the application menu. it's a pretty self explanatory gui |
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| 18:47.31 | hid3 | well, I don't have GUI on the server :) |
| 18:47.46 | hid3 | I hope it's possible to manage it from remote machine |
| 18:49.17 | twostone | you can manage it via shell as well, no GUI needed. |
| 18:49.54 | hid3 | yeah, examining the VBoxManage command. However, this seems to be not so straight-forward |
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| 18:51.41 | twostone | what is. But hey, it's got a flashy manual... |
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| 18:52.31 | hid3 | I'm reading it now... |
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| 18:54.43 | acresearch | hello people, what is the shortcut to move a file to trash? |
| 18:55.03 | nkuttler | acresearch: the delete key? |
| 18:55.15 | acresearch | nkuttler: no delte key in macbookpro laptops |
| 18:55.40 | nkuttler | so get a real keyboard |
| 18:55.46 | acresearch | nkuttler: it is usually crtl+backspace (mac and ubuntu), not the case in gnome |
| 18:55.58 | acresearch | nkuttler: i would if i was rich |
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| 19:03.31 | quetu | acresearch, press FN + Del |
| 19:03.51 | quetu | the same to scrolls with FN + Arrowkeys |
| 19:04.44 | quetu | not scroll sorry, i meant Home End AvPag RePag |
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| 19:05.08 | acresearch | quetu: i have a laptop ()no del home pgup keys |
| 19:05.33 | acresearch | quetu: macbookpro laptop |
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| 19:06.02 | quetu | acresearch, i know, if you want to press Home (FN + Down Arrow), End (FN + UP Arrow), etc... |
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| 19:06.21 | quetu | Delete Key, FN + Backspace |
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| 19:06.44 | acresearch | quetu: doesn't work |
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| 19:06.49 | quetu | hmm |
| 19:06.54 | quetu | i have one too |
| 19:06.58 | acresearch | fn up arrow and fn downarrow work |
| 19:07.05 | acresearch | but not fn backspace |
| 19:07.09 | quetu | let me see |
| 19:07.37 | quetu | it works on my Retina mid2012 |
| 19:07.54 | acresearch | hmmm |
| 19:08.11 | acresearch | well fn backspace worked in ubuntu unity,,, but not debian gnome 3 |
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| 19:08.32 | acresearch | quetu: do i have to turn on the function somewhere? |
| 19:08.53 | quetu | no, i think is a keyboard layout configuration thing... dunno |
| 19:08.59 | acresearch | hmmm |
| 19:08.59 | jasonwc | I'm trying to automate my Debian backup server to run a backup script, sleep, and then wakeup at a specified time. I added a line in /etc/crontab, |
| 19:08.59 | jasonwc | 30 0 * * * root /usr/sbin/rtcwake -m mem -l -t $(date +%s -d "tomorrow 03:52") |
| 19:09.21 | acresearch | quetu: i tried also to add a shortcut, but that did not work either |
| 19:09.26 | jasonwc | However, it is only parsed as " (root) CMD ("/usr/sbin/rtcwake -m mem -l -t $(date +)". The same command works fine when used in a terminal. |
| 19:10.03 | quetu | you can edit keybindings |
| 19:10.16 | acresearch | quetu: where? |
| 19:10.19 | quetu | ~/.inputrc |
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| 19:11.47 | acresearch | quetu: ok |
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| 21:00.59 | Guest66144 | What's the quickest way to run a bin server as a service in debian/ubuntu? |
| 21:01.16 | Guest66144 | server binary* |
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| 21:17.16 | nkuttler | Guest66144: um, what? |
| 21:18.43 | Guest66144 | nkuttler : All I'm asking is how to run execute a binary as a service |
| 21:19.05 | Guest66144 | run a binary* |
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| 21:19.27 | Guest66144 | A bin file |
| 21:20.58 | coke | man hobup |
| 21:21.03 | coke | man hohup |
| 21:21.26 | nkuttler | Guest66144: which bin file? read the docs it came with? |
| 21:21.29 | coke | and then go read a book about systemd :p |
| 21:21.42 | nkuttler | coke: did you mean nohup? |
| 21:21.50 | Guest66144 | Well I wrote the bin so there isn't really any docs |
| 21:21.59 | nkuttler | .oO |
| 21:21.59 | coke | yea |
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| 21:22.34 | Guest66144 | And won't nohup not start the application upon restarting debian? |
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| 21:23.08 | coke | yes |
| 21:23.13 | nkuttler | Guest66144: i'd go with supervisord |
| 21:23.44 | coke | runit supervisord there is a ton of 'keep a thing running' deamons |
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| 21:24.23 | coke | but he asked for a quick and easy one |
| 21:25.01 | coke | and you might as well do systemd if you want to do it right |
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| 21:25.29 | nkuttler | if all you're ever going to use is linux, sure |
| 21:26.14 | missmbob | write a systemd unit file. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd#Writing_unit_files |
| 21:27.11 | blackflow | nkuttler: supervisord works on windows? |
| 21:27.35 | nkuttler | blackflow: does google work on your computer? |
| 21:27.54 | blackflow | nkuttler: nope. |
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| 21:43.02 | x86_register | Hello, I am currently trying to repair my Debian installation. Before I go about doing this, I need to back up all of the important files in both my home and root directory. I currently have my debian machine booted into a live session of ubuntu, and copying my files. |
| 21:43.12 | x86_register | How can I copy files that I "dont have permission to read" |
| 21:43.25 | x86_register | I know the password, but I am not being prompted for it when trying to access these directories |
| 21:43.37 | x86_register | I have already de-crypted my encrypted partition, and have some access |
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| 22:02.12 | newlinux | Hi can you skip the archive mirror and install it later after the installation itself? |
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| 22:04.31 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 22:04.40 | jhutchins | x86_register: You need to do it as a user who has permission to read the files. |
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| 22:05.24 | jhutchins | x86_register: Usually you would do this as root, who has permission for files belonging to all users. |
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| 22:05.35 | Azrael_- | at last, i made it. jessie with php5.6+7 works like a charm with ispconfig :) |
| 22:06.07 | x86_register | jhutchins, I am root for the ubuntu live session |
| 22:06.21 | x86_register | I need to get root permissions for the files on my system |
| 22:06.43 | x86_register | Just logging in as root doesn't give me the permissions to copy the files from my laptop to my USB |
| 22:07.30 | Azrael_- | thanks for all who helped me deciding the right source for the php7-packages (now being sury) |
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| 22:07.41 | newlinux_ | Hi can you skip the archive mirror and install it later after the installation itself? |
| 22:08.06 | x86_register | jhutchins, do you happen to know a way I can validate myself to the system, so that I have permissions to copy these files? |
| 22:08.20 | x86_register | It's my laptop, so authenticating via a password is no issue |
| 22:08.48 | Azrael_- | x86_register: exact error message? "whoami"-output? tried "sudo"? |
| 22:10.03 | x86_register | One moment Azrael. root@ubuntu:~# whoami (output == 'root'); |
| 22:10.07 | x86_register | "The folder âlogsâ cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it." |
| 22:10.30 | x86_register | Azrael, I have nautilus open as root, and when I try to copy and paste the files from my home directory to my usb |
| 22:10.36 | x86_register | I am told "permission denied" |
| 22:10.41 | x86_register | that is the excat error message |
| 22:10.56 | x86_register | I am not prompted for a password to get permission, I am trying to find out how if necessary |
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| 22:11.16 | Azrael_- | strange, sorry, no idea |
| 22:11.21 | x86_register | I am trying to backup all my files before I attempt to repair my debian system, as it is stuck in a loop while booting (that's a dif issue) |
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| 22:12.07 | Azrael_- | perhaps you se some error-messages with "dmesg" |
| 22:13.17 | x86_register | Azrael, none that are related to my issue. |
| 22:13.37 | newlinux_ | anyone? |
| 22:14.27 | x86_register | newlinux_ if the archive doesn't contain any necessary files, then I believe yes. but I am not 100% sure. |
| 22:16.05 | newlinux_ | x86_register: I use debian-8.7.1-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso |
| 22:16.47 | x86_register | newlinux_ then you should be able to skip that process, and install those files later, because the ISO has all files necessary |
| 22:17.22 | x86_register | if you go to your source.list file, and remove the CD statements, then it shouldn't as you to 'insert disk' when you do 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade' |
| 22:17.34 | x86_register | shouldn't ask you* |
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| 22:18.03 | x86_register | newlinux_ but the CD-1 iso image has all files necessary for a debian installation |
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| 22:18.15 | x86_register | the others do not, they contain extra packages |
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| 22:19.02 | newlinux_ | x86_register: So go to my sources.list and then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will result the same thing as I install the packges from the installer itself? |
| 22:19.53 | x86_register | That question confuses me newlinux_ . Are you installing debian or is it already installed? |
| 22:20.12 | newlinux_ | x86_register: Im installing debian. |
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| 22:20.32 | newlinux_ | But I got bad archive mirror |
| 22:20.41 | x86_register | ahhhh |
| 22:20.53 | newlinux_ | So my question is, IF I skip this step and then apt-get install, Will it result the same thing? |
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| 22:21.08 | x86_register | As long as your sources are correct, yes. |
| 22:21.25 | newlinux_ | or is there any extra packages during the install? |
| 22:21.31 | newlinux_ | ok |
| 22:21.57 | newlinux_ | can any else confirm this please? |
| 22:22.24 | innmalint | Having a problem w/ just a black screen while trying to install Nvidia drivers. From a |
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| 22:22.51 | innmalint | ..."minimal install" without X I then apt-get installed nvidia-driver and nvidia-xconfig. Rebooted and I'm at a black screen |
| 22:23.09 | newlinux_ | innmalint: Did you install the Nvida drivers from backports? |
| 22:23.26 | newlinux_ | apt-get install nvidida-drivers |
| 22:23.39 | x86_register | I managed to copy the critical files needed. I shall get back to my issue at another time. |
| 22:23.41 | x86_register | thansk again |
| 22:23.52 | x86_register | "There is no system but GNU and Linux is one of it's Kernels" |
| 22:24.25 | innmalint | newlinux_: I did not. I noticed that in the documentation but I didn't see why that method was preferred over the normal repos |
| 22:24.50 | innmalint | I should add, stock minimal install and upgraded to 'testing' before the install. That might be helpful.. |
| 22:25.24 | newlinux_ | I did this |
| 22:25.25 | newlinux_ | apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 22:25.54 | innmalint | I'm almost sure the installer ran that, but I will try that out. |
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| 22:26.11 | newlinux_ | Then |
| 22:26.13 | newlinux_ | apt-get install nvidia-driver |
| 22:26.17 | newlinux_ | from backports |
| 22:26.42 | newlinux_ | If you are on jessie |
| 22:26.44 | newlinux_ | apt-get -t jessie-backports install nvidia-driver |
| 22:27.01 | newlinux_ | ^ |
| 22:27.32 | innmalint | I'm on 'testing' -- even if headers are already installed I could try dpkg-reconfigure maybe> |
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| 22:32.44 | innmalint | newlinux_: linux-headers are already installed. dpkg-reconfigure wasn't helpful either |
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| 22:35.06 | newlinux_ | innmalint: what graphic card are you use btw? |
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| 22:38.09 | innmalint | newlinux_: 660ti. reviving the machine from the dead |
| 22:38.29 | innmalint | turns out adding 'nomodeset' to the grub config has gotten me a TTY though! |
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| 22:46.38 | newlinux_ | why is there no debian gnome or mate .iso to download? |
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| 22:47.06 | mtn | newlinux_: the netinstall iso has many de options |
| 22:47.35 | newlinux_ | mtn: sure, but why is there no .iso option as debian-8.7.1-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso? |
| 22:48.08 | mtn | newlinux_: the normal cd 1 iso will have gnome on it |
| 22:48.17 | dax | mostly |
| 22:48.35 | dax | unless you don't have internet access during installation, you're really better off just using the netinstall |
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| 22:50.46 | kingsley | Is my assumption correct that to be able to "import" a module into a python script, the module should be installed by a so called "binary" Debian package, and not a "source' one? |
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| 22:54.19 | kingsley | newlinux_: Short answer: I dunno. Long answer: At least in the past, Debian developers sometimes sacrificed ease of install for ease of (on-going) maintenance, and maybe customizability. |
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| 23:07.31 | JMichaelX | will fglrx work in debian stable? i am trying to make use of a machine with a Radeon 6310HD GPU, and am wondering if there is any way to achieve decent video playback with this GPU |
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| 23:14.03 | JMichaelX | maybe a better question to ask is whether or not it is worthwhile to try using fglrx in debian stable |
| 23:15.03 | bazhang | fglrx from where |
| 23:15.31 | JMichaelX | from main contrib non-free |
| 23:15.44 | bazhang | whats the video card |
| 23:16.06 | JMichaelX | Radeon HD 6310 |
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| 23:16.22 | bazhang | how old is that |
| 23:16.33 | JMichaelX | hmm, ca 2011, i believe |
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| 23:25.58 | Fasort | xset -b s off dpms 0 0 120 |
| 23:26.09 | Fasort | I have : xset -b s off dpms 0 0 120. in my .xinitrc. but sometimes screen wont turn off.. the only solution to this is reboot or log in again. can any one help me sort it out please? |
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| 23:29.13 | Fasort | hmm |
| 23:29.19 | Fasort | anyone? |
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| 23:54.50 | xthree | Is there a website you can use to check to see if hardware is linux compatible? |
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| 23:56.33 | phogg | xthree: I don't know of anything that will give you a one stop simple answer. |
| 23:56.41 | phogg | xthree: What hardware are you looking at buying? |
| 23:57.07 | xthree | i am buying a tp link pci wifi card |
| 23:58.24 | xthree | the L-WDN4800 N900 |
| 23:59.01 | Fasort | I have : xset -b s off dpms 0 0 120. in my .xinitrc. but sometimes screen wont turn off.. the only solution to this is reboot or log in again. can any one help me sort it out please? |
