| 00:00.42 | Azrael_- | errors in dmesg? |
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| 00:01.45 | Dan39 | some UDP bad checksums... clock inserting leap second.. |
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| 00:02.14 | Dan39 | hmm, some lines that look like filesystem drivers being reloaded or something |
| 00:02.27 | Dan39 | maybe there was a kernel update and i didnt reboot it. that could cause it? |
| 00:02.35 | Azrael_- | no clue |
| 00:02.41 | Dan39 | 1 moment, will paste |
| 00:02.53 | Azrael_- | use a pastebin |
| 00:03.09 | Dan39 | pfft only 15 lines, incoming! |
| 00:03.12 | Dan39 | https://ptpb.pw/3jTI |
| 00:03.12 | moony | Which do you all prefer: Vi, Vim, Nano, Neovim, or Emacs for a terminal editor |
| 00:03.14 | Dan39 | jk :p |
| 00:03.32 | Eduard_Munteanu | We all prefer vim. :P |
| 00:04.03 | Dan39 | and those lines are just surrounded by UDP bad checksums, which are normal afaik |
| 00:04.11 | Dan39 | besides that nothing since boot till now |
| 00:04.44 | Eduard_Munteanu | Actually Emacs with a bunch of Vim-like customizations, to be fair. |
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| 00:05.26 | Dan39 | 1 interesting thing i found... the swap partition wasnt on. looks like it was never formatted to be swap. mkswap told me it wiped an ext3 signature :P |
| 00:05.37 | Dan39 | kind of has me wondering what was there... too late now haha |
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| 00:06.11 | moony | also, swap ftw (my laptop has 12GB ram, 12GB swap, for a total of 24GB, altho half is slow, due to latency, HDD speed, etc) |
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| 00:06.41 | Unline | moony : have u got an asus laptop ? |
| 00:06.50 | moony | HP |
| 00:06.55 | Unline | aha |
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| 00:14.36 | Dan39 | hmm why did i not know about the `apt` command? |
| 00:14.50 | Dan39 | ive always just used apt-get/apt-cache/aptitude... |
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| 00:56.41 | usergygyyg | .wc |
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| 01:02.01 | moony | Is there a clean, easy way to switch from Gnome to LXDE? |
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| 01:05.53 | Canucktux | moony: how far into GNOME are you? |
| 01:06.22 | moony | Not far, dont even know how to put files/folders on the desktop, and the lack of minimize button is messing with me |
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| 01:10.48 | Canucktux | moony: I think theres an LXDE meta package you can install and GNOME meta package to uninstall |
| 01:11.02 | Eduard_Munteanu | moony, normally there are no icons on the GNOME desktop, it's empty |
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| 01:11.18 | Canucktux | or have both installed, not too many downsides |
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| 01:13.06 | Canucktux | so the meta lxde package is called lxde |
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| 01:13.37 | Canucktux | moony: to install, run |
| 01:13.37 | Canucktux | sudo apt install lxde |
| 01:14.18 | Canucktux | and to remove gnome try sudo apt remove gnome |
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| 01:20.55 | eldebrim1 | is it normal not to have the "eth0" interface when executing "ifconfig"? |
| 01:21.13 | aypea[3] | yes on newer systems |
| 01:21.25 | aypea[3] | you may have enoX or ensXfY or similar |
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| 01:22.10 | eldebrim1 | good. i thought it was a problem. thanks |
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| 04:10.10 | [gnubie] | waves |
| 04:11.03 | [gnubie] | anyone here can point me to a url to read about on how to make desktop cube works in debian stretch? thanks. |
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| 04:26.35 | somiaj | ,v compiz |
| 04:26.36 | judd | Package: compiz on amd64 -- stretch: 1:0.9.13.0+16.10.20160818.2-5; sid: 1:0.9.13.0+16.10.20160818.2-5 |
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| 04:36.24 | Agafnd | seq24 website: "Download: seq24-0.8.7.tar.gz" debian repo: "Package: seq24 (0.9.2-2)" |
| 04:36.40 | Agafnd | am I going crazy or does debian somehow have a later version |
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| 04:39.19 | Agafnd | oh, huh. I guess the website is out of date, 'cause the launchpad site is ahead of debian https://launchpad.net/seq24 |
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| 04:48.59 | nathani | are there any advantages of running Debian compared to Ubuntu? |
| 04:51.04 | somiaj | nathani: yes. But a lot comes doesn to choice and what software one needs. |
| 04:51.09 | somiaj | comes down to |
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| 04:54.27 | nathani | k, thanks |
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| 04:57.53 | somiaj | nathani: anything in paticular you want to know? Maybe narrow down what you are looking to compare. |
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| 04:59.47 | nathani | can I run ubuntu deb packages on Debian? |
| 04:59.53 | nathani | install rather |
| 05:00.05 | somiaj | no |
| 05:00.06 | nathani | how similar are the two |
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| 05:00.19 | Agafnd | sometimes |
| 05:00.20 | somiaj | you don't even want to install packages for debian 7 in debian 8 and visa versa. |
| 05:00.21 | nathani | is there a website that compares the differences |
| 05:01.01 | Agafnd | nathani: there are different versions of most software dependencies for ONE thing. |
| 05:01.06 | somiaj | not a single one, there are most likely to many differences to put on a single page. |
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| 05:04.40 | somiaj | nathani: main differences boil down to policy and comunity. Debian has a clear free software guideline that ubuntu doesn't have about free vs non-free software or the DSFG, Debian also provides a frozen stable release that is supported for multiple years, giving a much slower rease cycle than ubuntu |
| 05:04.55 | somiaj | as a side affect things can tend to be more stable, and stuff has undergone longer testing. |
| 05:05.27 | Agafnd | more stable, but less new and shiny |
| 05:05.29 | somiaj | but on the other hand, ubuntu doesn't require extra issues with non-free drivers and newer hardware. Ubuntu seems to have more third party ppa's avaialbe for software not currently in ubuntu, and so forth. |
| 05:05.51 | somiaj | ubuntu has a major coorpration backing it, so certain things get far more support and developement. |
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| 06:12.50 | k3rn3lwalk3r | i have a bluetooth head phone when i connect my phone to it i can play music with such a good quality but when i connect it to my debain laptop sound quality sucks |
| 06:12.56 | k3rn3lwalk3r | what is the problem |
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| 07:03.42 | StephenS | if I add backports deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main to sources.list and run apt-get update, will when I run apt-get install php for example, get php7, or I need explicitly to tell apt to use backports? |
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| 07:08.13 | bzed | StephenS: there is no php7 backport |
| 07:08.21 | StephenS | yeah just seen that |
| 07:08.25 | StephenS | there is no mosquitto backport either |
| 07:08.26 | FreddyP | apt-get -t jessie-backports install "package" |
| 07:08.33 | bzed | StephenS: and for others - apt-get -t jessie-backports install ⦠|
| 07:09.02 | StephenS | I wanted to use backports for mosquitto, but realized there is no backport for it in jessie backports |
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| 07:10.24 | FreddyP | StephenS: a google search found it on git |
| 07:10.41 | StephenS | FreddyP, but its not backported |
| 07:10.45 | StephenS | or am I missing something? |
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| 07:17.27 | themill | also, please don't use ftp.debian.org but a different mirror that is closer to you |
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| 07:18.29 | StephenS | it doesnt matter, backport for jessie doesnt own mosquitto newest version |
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| 07:20.27 | themill | It looks like it is easily backportable |
| 07:20.46 | themill | At this stage though, I'd consider running stretch instead. |
| 07:22.46 | StephenS | how about to use mosquitto repo https://mosquitto.org/2013/01/mosquitto-debian-repository/ ? |
| 07:22.58 | StephenS | I know its not official debian repo, but I guess many people are using this repo just fine? |
| 07:23.25 | themill | 'many people' might be an exaggeration. Who knows. |
| 07:24.24 | themill | Packages can be of very variable quality and they may or may not pay attention to things like the ability to upgrade them later |
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| 07:26.58 | StephenS | well, someone willing to backport mosquitto package then? :P |
| 07:28.20 | themill | Highly unlikely when people are concentrating on releasing stretch |
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| 07:40.42 | bubbely | error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 07:40.42 | bubbely | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:43.15 | bubbely | anyone here |
| 07:43.32 | themill | there are lots of things wrong with this... |
| 07:44.17 | themill | Why are you trying to run unetbootin to begin with, and why are you running a non-installed version that is not compiled for your version of Debian? |
| 07:45.59 | bubbely | i want to install ubuntu and i dont have a usb or cd to use. so i followed a tutorial to install ubuntu via unetbootin to Hard disk - i have an 'ok' version that managed to install the bootloader but when i click unetbootin it says cant find hdd15,1 must load kernel first |
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| 07:46.09 | bubbely | i thought if i had a better working version of unetbootin this might work |
| 07:46.32 | themill | that sounds like a pretty typical problem that comes from using unetbootin |
| 07:46.39 | bubbely | oh |
| 07:46.59 | bubbely | easy fix ? |
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| 07:47.52 | themill | You should be able to get grub to boot the ISO image directly, but #ubuntu would have a better idea about how to drive their install media |
| 07:48.15 | bubbely | themill no one awake in that channel! can u help me do it with grub |
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| 08:42.05 | DoctorD90 | good morning, new pc purchased, I have moved my hdd from old pc to new one, but some devices arent recognized. I have runned lsusb, pspci, dmesg...main issue is with wifi and nvidia graphic card(nouveau in dmesg)...now i come back to old pc. How can I get an auto "driver discover"? eth works luckly |
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| 08:59.41 | StephenS | dpkg for ssb? |
| 08:59.42 | dpkg | StephenS: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
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| 10:19.23 | Komanda876 | have a 3tb drive that only shows 746.52 gb |
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| 10:19.34 | Komanda876 | i know i can use dd to wipe it fully |
| 10:19.53 | Komanda876 | is there a way to do it faster; without rewriting everyhting with zeros |
| 10:20.00 | Komanda876 | just want normal size to be usable |
| 10:20.11 | OtakuSenpai | gparted or fdisk |
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| 10:43.52 | BluesKaj | 'Morning all |
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| 11:13.51 | JohnA | where can I find debian install for sbackup? the ppa's for it seem to have folded. |
| 11:14.40 | JohnA | Is the an alternative to sbackup that provides similar features. |
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| 11:28.07 | jolt | JohnA: I havent used sbackup, but maybe backintime can be something |
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| 11:33.33 | d64 | hello. i have almost successfully migrated my old i386 debian installation to amd64. kernel is migrated, packages are migrated, dpkg and apt-get work fine, just one issue remains: aptitude, on "aptitude install", wants to install hundreds of :i386 packages back. what gives? if i say "aptitude remove packagename:i386", this removes that package from the list, but there are hundreds. |
| 11:33.56 | d64 | note that dpkg -l or dpkg --get-selections do not list these :i386 packages that aptitude wants to install. just :amd64. |
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| 11:34.56 | d64 | it says things like "epic4 : Conflicts: epic4:i386 but 1:2.10.5-2+b1 is to be installed." i don't understand where this desire to install epic4:i386 comes from. the amd64 package is installed. |
| 11:35.05 | jolt | d64: Is that perhaps because of multiarch? https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO |
| 11:35.17 | d64 | yes, i am in multiarch mode, because i need to run some i386 programs |
| 11:35.21 | jolt | Can you remove the i386 architecture? I have not used this stuff, so I donät know |
| 11:35.24 | jolt | ah |
| 11:35.40 | d64 | i can remove it, and that solves the issue, yes, but i think there must be some solution that would allow multiarch usage |
| 11:36.37 | d64 | the actual :i386 packages that i want installed are libc6 and zlib1g and such. the packages mentioned in the above list are in no way their dependencies |
| 11:36.51 | jolt | Sorry, I have no idea about it |
| 11:37.05 | d64 | ok, maybe someone who is knowledgeable in aptitude sees this |
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| 13:06.29 | petn-randall | I do I find out which package creates /etc/aliases? 'apt-file search /etc/aliases' doesn't show up, so I'm guessing it's created in postinst by some package. |
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| 13:09.40 | jolt | petn-randall: exim perhaps? |
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| 13:14.34 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 13:15.46 | Azrael_- | i'm using cryptcat but if i use "tar cz <somefiles> | cryptcat -k <mypw> <target>" the transfer never ends. if i use "nc" i use the option "-q 0" but it seems like cryptcat doesn't support this. how can i properly use it? |
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| 13:19.54 | FireStriker | hi |
| 13:22.06 | sora_ | im wondering how to abort the debian 8 installer. |
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| 13:26.10 | petn-randall | jolt: Grepping around in /var/lib/dpkg/ I found the postinst of postfix that creates it. I was hoping to find a more robust approach, though, since I wouldn't have found it if there was some indirection via variables (e.g. if it was "/etc/$aliasfile" in there I wouldn't have found it.) |
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| 13:33.23 | petn-randall | blackflow: You mentioned you use apparmor to restrict your firefox. Would you like to share your setup with me? |
| 13:34.25 | ConsciousCreator | Hi folks, I'm running Debian 8.0 "Jessie" on my Samsung Netbook, and the battery meter appears to be showing a faulty value... It's been showing 94% battery level for a number of hours now. I've checked the battery level on the Xfce "taskbar", as well as from the command line using "acpi -v" and they both show 94% battery level. Does anyone know how to fix this, so it shows the correct battery level? |
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| 13:35.16 | FireStriker | how to a abort a deban linux install? |
| 13:35.34 | Azrael_- | complete new install? |
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| 13:35.43 | FireStriker | yep |
| 13:35.52 | Azrael_- | ctrl+alt+del? |
| 13:35.57 | FireStriker | nothing |
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| 13:36.04 | Azrael_- | reset? power-off? |
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| 13:36.21 | BillKGR | Just push the button :) |
| 13:36.26 | FireStriker | im thinking of powing off. |
| 13:36.46 | FireStriker | the hdd is small and not rly importen to me any way so if it buggeres up i dont care |
| 13:36.53 | Azrael_- | your data will be probably already lost, no matter what you do |
| 13:37.05 | BillKGR | Have you went through formatting the disk? |
| 13:37.11 | petn-randall | ConsciousCreator: I'm guessing that the kernel is showing wrong values, can you check in /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/? |
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| 13:37.47 | FireStriker | yep partioned it was downloading the packeges |
| 13:38.07 | petn-randall | ConsciousCreator: There should be several files like "status" and "capacity_level", check their contents. |
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| 13:38.27 | petn-randall | FireStriker: Yes, power off and then just reformat when needed. |
| 13:38.37 | BillKGR | FireStriker, So the data is gone, but powering off the machine won't cause any harm |
| 13:39.13 | FireStriker | ok |
| 13:39.56 | dvs | *blam!* |
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| 13:48.57 | BluesKaj | dvs, ?? |
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| 13:55.46 | Dinosaurio | ikonia: :) |
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| 14:24.28 | moonythedwarf | Wow, HP. wow. |
| 14:24.40 | petn-randall | moonythedwarf: ? |
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| 14:24.51 | moonythedwarf | HP firmware has the windows bootmanager hardcoded |
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| 14:25.12 | petn-randall | moonythedwarf: How do you mean that? |
| 14:25.18 | moonythedwarf | i had to risk messing with EFI files to get grub2 to run as my bootmanager. |
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| 14:25.59 | petn-randall | moonythedwarf: I see. You EFI setup didn't have an option to select it? Which device model is this? |
| 14:26.26 | moonythedwarf | I didnt even see a EFI setup in the bios. HP pavillion i believe. leme check |
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| 14:27.42 | moonythedwarf | *thinking* Model id is not on the bottom of the laptop? |
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| 14:29.30 | moonythedwarf | HP bios have given me more trouble than its worth. First i had to modify multiple GRUB scripts to get update-grub to even work, second i had to mess with EFI files. At least i hopefully dont have to mess with it ever again |
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| 14:31.42 | cluelessperson | _apt:x:111:65534::/nonexistent:/bin/false |
| 14:31.44 | cluelessperson | What's this user for? |
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| 14:35.55 | moonythedwarf | cluelessperson, from the name, probably apt? |
| 14:36.28 | moonythedwarf | Yea, its apt |
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| 14:37.44 | petn-randall | cluelessperson: apt by default drops privileges when accessing the internet, to fetch packages or to pull changelogs. I'm guessing this is the user it drops to for doing those tasks. |
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| 14:40.17 | cluelessperson | alright, thanks |
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| 14:50.52 | blackflow | petn-randall: sure, sec |
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| 15:02.31 | blackflow | petn-randall: eh I don't have it on this computer (don't use firefox here), and it looks it's not included in my back USB |
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| 15:02.53 | blackflow | petn-randall: but, it's the profile from the apparmor package, modified to remove access to anything in $HOME, except rw to ~/Downloads |
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| 15:03.21 | blackflow | petn-randall: the one in /usr/share/doc/apparmor/ |
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| 16:16.52 | penguin42 | is looking at the exim4 CHECK_RCPT_SPF - is it possible to configure it not to deny but only to add warnings? I can see /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template has deny/defer/warn sections but I'm not clear what causes a deny as opposed to warn |
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| 16:19.03 | penguin42 | is wondering if the right thing is to clone the CHECK_RCPT_SPF into another file and tweak it to my own needs - probably change the deny/message to a warn/add_header? |
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| 16:25.48 | penguin42 | ah, a warn would carry on where a deny stops at that point - so probably an 'accept' with an 'add_header' ? |
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| 16:41.13 | jak2000 | hi all |
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| 16:41.37 | jak2000 | wich is the official sources.list ? |
| 16:41.45 | jak2000 | 3 lines anyone can give me? please |
| 16:42.06 | jak2000 | !help |
| 16:42.14 | mtn | !sources |
| 16:42.14 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 16:42.22 | jak2000 | thx |
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| 17:11.31 | jak2000 | hi all why cant install curl command: https://pastebin.com/gEv7Kemc |
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| 17:15.28 | nkuttler | jak2000: that doesn't look like the entire output |
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| 17:21.00 | jak2000 | nkuttler: https://pastebin.com/ijRwncr2 |
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| 17:22.28 | nkuttler | jak2000: i'd start by removing this glassfish thing |
| 17:23.04 | jak2000 | cant :( |
| 17:23.09 | jak2000 | really cant |
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| 17:24.20 | jak2000 | trying reinstalling glassfish |
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| 17:26.27 | nkuttler | jak2000: you can still reinstall it later |
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| 17:27.27 | jhutchins | Looks like glassfish has a bad init script. |
| 17:27.40 | jhutchins | jak2000: What release is this? |
| 17:28.15 | jak2000 | jhutchins removed glassfish |
| 17:28.18 | jak2000 | continue the error |
| 17:28.37 | jhutchins | jak2000: Can't be the same error, that was specifically glassfish. |
| 17:28.40 | jak2000 | restarted the server... |
| 17:29.00 | jhutchins | Do you understand what the lines you pasted were telling you? |
| 17:29.06 | jak2000 | yes |
| 17:29.11 | jak2000 | wait trying again curl |
| 17:29.53 | jak2000 | insserv: Starting GlassFish_swManzana depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! |
| 17:29.57 | jak2000 | same removed glassfish |
| 17:30.03 | jak2000 | deleted domain |
| 17:30.09 | jak2000 | deleted glassfish dir |
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| 17:30.36 | jhutchins | jak2000: Again, what release is this? |
| 17:32.02 | jak2000 | Linux version 3.16.0-4-586 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.8.4 (Debian 4.8.4-1) ) #1 Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2 (2016-04-08) |
| 17:32.25 | jak2000 | VERSION="8 (jessie)" |
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| 17:33.18 | jak2000 | or release of glassfish? |
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| 17:34.38 | jhutchins | jak2000: jessie was what I wanted. How did you install glassfish? |
| 17:35.02 | jhutchins | jak2000: Did you download a .deb from Oracle? |
| 17:35.40 | jak2000 | done |
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| 17:35.55 | jhutchins | jak2000: Sorry if you've already answered these questions, I came in at :21 |
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| 17:36.04 | jak2000 | jhutchins |
| 17:36.12 | jak2000 | yes done, deleted service (is the problem) |
| 17:36.17 | jak2000 | and install curl |
| 17:36.29 | jak2000 | and now installing again glassfish |
| 17:36.37 | jak2000 | i get a zip file rom oracle.com |
| 17:36.53 | jhutchins | jak2000: That's the problem. You should use the Debian packages. |
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| 17:37.14 | jak2000 | where can download |
| 17:37.15 | jak2000 | how to? |
| 17:37.27 | jhutchins | jak2000: Oracle Glassfish is built for Oracle Enterprise Linux, essentially RHEL5. It espects a RedHat type system. |
| 17:38.02 | jhutchins | jak2000: Just use aptitude. They're in the Debian repositories. They may not be as recent as the ones direct from Oracle, but they're built to run on Debian. |
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| 17:38.28 | jhutchins | !glassfish |
| 17:38.58 | jak2000 | sudo aptitude install glassfish |
| 17:39.16 | jak2000 | no t found the package |
| 17:39.29 | jhutchins | glassfish-javaee |
| 17:39.38 | jak2000 | ok |
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| 17:40.19 | jhutchins | I'm not sure what other packages you might need, aptitude search glassfish and find a decent doc that specifically talks about glassfish on Debian, preferably Debian 8 specific. |
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| 17:41.13 | jhutchins | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=glassfish |
| 17:42.46 | jak2000 | exist a way for isntall java8 ? |
| 17:42.51 | jak2000 | all documentation is for ubuntu |
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| 17:46.58 | jhutchins | !java |
| 17:46.59 | dpkg | Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged; for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" systems, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>, <java-package>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 17:47.32 | jhutchins | ,v openjdk |
| 17:47.33 | judd | No package named 'openjdk' was found in amd64. |
| 17:47.43 | jhutchins | Bah. |
| 17:47.47 | jhutchins | !openjdk |
| 17:47.48 | dpkg | OpenJDK is the open source release of <Java> from Oracle America (formerly Sun Microsystems). All required functionality (according to the J2SE spec) is present, but some optional stuff is missing and some stuff uses different implementations from Oracle's binary JDK. Install the default-jre package for the runtime environment or default-jdk for the development kit. http://openjdk.java.net/ #openjdk on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 17:48.30 | jhutchins | jak2000: /msg dpkg install java for instructions. |
| 17:48.51 | jak2000 | jhutchins but openjdk wich version is? 7,8? |
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| 17:51.49 | jhutchins | jak2000: 8 is in backports. /msg dpkg backports FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE BACKPORTS WEBPAGE. |
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| 17:53.44 | jhutchins | !es |
| 17:53.44 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la lÃnea de chat. |
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| 17:55.36 | Darklust | Is it possible to mirror a sid repo, or is it updated too frequently the Release/InRelease files to have their hash sums correct? |
| 17:55.45 | Darklust | *for |
| 17:56.07 | jhutchins | Darklust: It's possible. There are multiple mirrors already. |
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| 17:57.02 | Darklust | I'm hitting that problem, mismatched hash sums because Packages.xz is constantly changing |
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| 17:57.45 | jhutchins | Darklust: sid is also known as "unstable". There are resons for that. |
| 17:58.13 | Darklust | True |
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| 17:59.33 | Darklust | I suppose I could manually calculate the hash sums then, I just don't have the pipes to constantly update real-time |
| 17:59.56 | jhutchins | You could also let the package sit for a few days before you install it. |
| 17:59.58 | rubas | Hello, I have a ssh tunnel, portforwarding a remote port to a local port using the -L flag of ssh. But the issue is, that I get a error saying: " accept: Too many open files ", have anyone experienced this before? |
| 18:00.32 | jhutchins | rubas: It's probably not the ssh tunnel that's the problem. |
| 18:00.36 | at0m | Darklust: https://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror |
| 18:01.33 | at0m | i prefer acng over mirroring, though. |
| 18:01.50 | Darklust | "You should avoid mirroring from... ftp.us.debian.org" Well darn haha |
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| 18:02.02 | rubas | jhutchins: I am using redis on that port, could it be redis saying it out loud? |
| 18:03.29 | rubas | jhutchins: do you think it's maybe my local computer saying that? |
| 18:03.47 | jak2000 | thanks jhutchins! |
| 18:03.48 | Darklust | at0m see, I've been using apt-mirror for this |
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| 18:07.14 | jhutchins | rubas: Look at the logs. |
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| 18:07.40 | jhutchins | rubas: Also, google "too many open files" and see why that happens. |
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| 18:11.23 | rubas | jhutchins: got disconnected |
| 18:11.29 | jhutchins | rubas: Look at the logs. |
| 18:11.31 | jhutchins | rubas: Also, google "too many open files" and see why that happens. |
| 18:11.40 | rubas | jhutchins: cool, going to do that now |
| 18:11.50 | jhutchins | rubas: Databases sometimes need higher file limits, I don't know about redis (Oracle does). |
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| 18:26.30 | smhar | greetings |
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| 18:27.53 | smhar | I am installing debian stretch into a separate partition in the same laptop which has debian jessie installed. I am installing it from jessie using debootstrap following the guide: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apds03.html.en |
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| 18:29.24 | smhar | I am wondering about the boot partition.. The jessie has a separate partition /dev/sda2 mounted on /boot/efi |
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| 18:30.24 | smhar | the directory structure for /boot is: /boot/efi , /boot/grub as well as some files in /boot itself |
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| 18:32.48 | jak2000 | jhutchins sometime used curl command? |
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| 18:39.04 | smhar | now .. the question is: What should I do for stretch? should I have a /boot partition pointing to the same /dev/sda2 .. which means sharing the same partition for two different debians? where there be conflicts? |
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| 18:42.25 | somiaj | you will only need a single instance of grub in the efi partition, that grub will be able to boot various oses for you. |
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| 18:43.21 | smhar | somiaj, so I should not install grub in stretch? |
| 18:43.49 | somiaj | that could be one way to do it, just manage grub from jessie, the os-prober package should detect the stretch install and put a boot entry for your stretch install there. |
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| 18:44.50 | andywww | iâm looking to put 4x 2tb hdds in a raid 5 array but iâm reading up about how unrecoverable read errors can shaft the whole array regardless of one disk technically being swappable |
| 18:45.07 | andywww | is there are sort of regular maintenance that can be performed on the disks to protect against this in any way or is it handled by the disk its self? |
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| 18:47.20 | rubas | jhutchins: Thank, I got help from the #redis channel, it seemed like I was making waaaay too many connections to my redis |
| 18:47.28 | rubas | jhutchins: thank you for helping me out getting there :) |
| 18:47.49 | beak | What does it mean when my desktop session forcibly logs me out and restarts every four minutes? |
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| 18:48.07 | nkuttler | beak: sounds like a cron job, or maybe some autostart script |
| 18:48.22 | beak | nkuttler, How do I kill it? |
| 18:48.36 | nkuttler | well, figure out what it is first.. |
| 18:48.49 | beak | Cannot |
| 18:48.53 | nkuttler | i guess i'd try logging in as a different user if it wasn't obvious |
| 18:48.57 | beak | I get logged out every four minutes |
| 18:49.10 | nkuttler | then log in on the console? |
| 18:49.14 | beak | Even as a different user |
| 18:49.21 | beak | tried console |
| 18:49.33 | beak | Mauybe I am supposed to smash this computer |
| 18:49.36 | nkuttler | beak: is that a multi-user system? |
| 18:49.41 | beak | Nah, Just me |
| 18:49.59 | nkuttler | just type crontab -l and see what's in there, for your user and root |
| 18:50.09 | nkuttler | you can do that in four minutes, right? |
| 18:50.11 | beak | Like, if I pick it up and fling it out the window , that may make it consistent again |
| 18:50.53 | beak | no crontab for root |
| 18:51.35 | beak | no crontab for user either |
| 18:51.49 | beak | fug |
| 18:52.27 | beak | Why is it behaving this way |
| 18:52.37 | beak | Doe sit need a new OS? |
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| 18:54.46 | petn-randall | beak: What OS did you install? |
| 18:55.02 | beak | debian |
| 18:55.14 | petn-randall | beak: And it's always been this way? |
| 18:55.29 | beak | Oh fer fug's sake |
| 18:55.48 | beak | Just now it went scuzzy when I booted in my OS |
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| 18:56.03 | petn-randall | I don't know what that is supposed to mean. |
| 18:56.07 | beak | I've had this OS for months |
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| 18:56.20 | beak | No reason for it to behave this way |
| 18:56.49 | petn-randall | beak: So when did it start to be like this? |
| 18:57.04 | beak | When i logged in today |
| 18:57.12 | petn-randall | beak: And which OS release is this? |
| 18:57.56 | beak | debian jessie |
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| 18:59.05 | petn-randall | beak: Did you install or remove something recently? |
| 18:59.43 | beak | Just the updates I go through, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 18:59.45 | beak | the usual |
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| 19:00.37 | petn-randall | beak: You could create a new user and log in with that one. If it happens there, too, it's related to your system, otherwise to your user. |
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| 19:01.22 | beak | petn-randall, Been there, done that |
| 19:01.36 | petn-randall | beak: and? |
| 19:02.22 | beak | same steaming, smelly pile of runy dog crap |
| 19:02.34 | beak | i get booted out again |
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| 19:03.00 | petn-randall | beak: Then I'd look at the logs, especially Xorg's and the rest of the system. |
| 19:03.18 | beak | but i get booted out before I get very far |
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| 19:03.36 | petn-randall | beak: Log in on the console? |
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| 19:03.49 | petn-randall | beak: ctrl+alt+Fkeys |
| 19:03.49 | beak | petn-randall, Yes, even in console |
| 19:04.00 | beak | petn-randall, Been there, done that |
| 19:04.09 | beak | same result, whether GUI or non |
| 19:04.12 | petn-randall | beak: Sounds like it's time to boot a live system and inspect the machine. |
| 19:04.33 | beak | think it is a virus? |
| 19:04.41 | beak | some malware attack or something? |
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| 19:05.03 | beak | This is windows like behavior |
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| 19:05.07 | petn-randall | No idea, but you won't get far debugging it otherwise. |
| 19:05.35 | beak | "We're being attacked" in Word Of Warcraft first edition orc voice |
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| 19:05.58 | beak | AARGGHGGHH!!!! |
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| 19:06.54 | beak | Though I dual boot and the Windows side is not logging me out every five minutes, it is just being its usual shitty windows self |
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| 19:07.23 | beak | My CPU temperature is okay |
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| 19:31.53 | Cerebr0 | Hi ! Debian on my notebook doesn't recognize my battery, and it's really wierd |
| 19:32.17 | Cerebr0 | in the /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1 folder, all the files have the default values |
| 19:32.43 | Cerebr0 | But the battery is still recognized as plugged in |
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| 19:50.19 | jolt | Cerebr0: /sys is a virtual file system which represents your hardware, so the files in there is whatever your hardware tells the kernel it is |
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| 20:11.28 | beak | fug |
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| 20:17.00 | Aboulafia2 | hello guys |
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| 20:19.14 | Aboulafia2 | when i want to make a tarball of the hiden directory from a terminal, I always have an error msg. To avoid I need to copy all of them in another directory and use tar after. Why ? |
| 20:19.41 | Aboulafia2 | --hiden directories from my "home" |
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| 20:23.50 | dondelelcaro | Aboulafia2: you mean directories which start with . in ~/? |
| 20:24.19 | jolt | Aboulafia2: What is the error message? |
| 20:24.54 | Aboulafia2 | dondelelcaro : not. ".icedove" an other .cache .config etc |
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| 20:26.03 | dondelelcaro | Aboulafia2: Ok; what is the command that you are using, and what is the error message? |
| 20:26.41 | Aboulafia2 | jolt : at the end tar says : stop in reason of previous error |
| 20:27.40 | Aboulafia2 | dondelelcaro: $tar cvf hdfiles.tar .[^.]* |
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| 20:30.47 | dondelelcaro | Aboulafia2: that looks reasonable; there should be output from tar which has an error before that. Try with just tar cf hdfiles.tar .[^.]*; |
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| 20:37.07 | Aboulafia2 | dondelelcaro: take a look here : http://paste.debian.net/930129/ |
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| 20:53.15 | Aboulafia2 | dondelelcaro and jolt : thanks for your help. I must leave. |
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| 20:53.31 | jolt | Aboulafia2: Looks like a pipe and something with root |
| 20:53.37 | jolt | darn |
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| 23:18.01 | sayNi | Just upgraded to Stretch. I was really impressed with Jessie, but this is even better. |
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| 23:23.09 | Sri_Designer | works for me wiht 3. it pops up a nice display and cycles through them all in order. |
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| 23:25.45 | moony | Err, any reason why Display Settings would be showing up every time i unplug/plug in my laptop? (LXDE)] |
| 23:26.40 | pingouin | sayNi: how so ? |
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| 23:28.15 | sayNi | pingouin: everything seems to run a lot smoother, and the theming is definitely more polished. Plus the upgraded/more numerous package choices is a plus. |
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| 23:29.50 | agrecascino | anyone got a debian iso on an smb share |
| 23:30.25 | agrecascino | or a floppy image with grub 2 |
| 23:30.54 | pingouin | sayNi: you apt-upgraded from jessie ? or fresh install with the new installer (iso / usb..) ? |
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| 23:34.02 | sayNi | pingouin: I tried the apt-upgrade at first, but it was giving me trouble booting afterwards, so I did a fresh install. Turns out that the booting problem was hardware, and not software, but it all works out in the end. Fresh install is usually better anyway. Keep the files you want, and start new. |
| 23:35.29 | pingouin | sayNi: your motherboard has an "old" bios style or UEFI style "bios" ? no trouble with installer ? |
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| 23:36.55 | sayNi | It |
| 23:37.28 | sayNi | pingouin: It's the old style. This is a Windows xp era ThinkCentre. Built like a tank. |
| 23:37.37 | sayNi | oh- and no problems |
| 23:38.34 | moony | > Only the FOSS, compiler of all 4 kernels, could stop them. |
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| 23:40.32 | pingouin | sayNi: thank you for the small feedback ! :) |
| 23:40.53 | pingouin | i'll wait it's out officialy... |
| 23:41.10 | pingouin | ...and maybe the first 9.xx :) |
| 23:44.09 | sayNi | pingouin: Given that Stretch is frozen, it's pretty much more stable than say Mint or Ubuntu right now. I understand if you are using it professionally though. |
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| 23:52.34 | pingouin | sayNi: nop :) i'm just lazy :) did not upgraded to wheezy, stayed with squeeze, and finaly re-install for jessie, cause some librairies were to old for me to build some software - ardour 5.x for instance :) |
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| 23:54.40 | Juzzy | Any of you smart grub guys available for a question? I am doing an in place software raid upgrade from 2tb drives to 6tb, i am down to my last drive but I can't get grub to install on the new gpt partitions |
| 23:55.10 | Juzzy | grub-install: warning: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible. |
| 23:55.12 | Juzzy | grub-install: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for RAID and LVM install. |
| 23:55.19 | Juzzy | those are the errors I get |
| 23:57.47 | pingouin | Juzzy: an gpt partition is not suppose to have some kind of empty file & flag ? that you can set with a software like gparted |
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| 23:58.55 | blackflow | Juzzy: yes, you need the bios boot partition, say 1MB, for grub to install the loader |
| 23:59.10 | Juzzy | can that be at the end of the drive? |
| 23:59.14 | blackflow | no |
| 23:59.25 | pingouin | for sure no...would be to easy :) |
| 23:59.38 | pingouin | computers are not... |
| 23:59.57 | Juzzy | well damn, i've spent litterally 6 days converting these drives over |