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| 00:06.33 | asternal | How do I recursively set every folder's access flags to 755 and every file's access flags to 640? |
| 00:06.39 | asternal | Inside a certain folder. |
| 00:07.24 | Laserburn | lol |
| 00:07.34 | Laserburn | that's not recursive |
| 00:08.30 | asternal | Recursively, as in, setting the files and folders inside the folders of the folder I want to change them in. |
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| 00:08.52 | at0m | find //path/to -name * -type f -exec chmod 640 {} \ |
| 00:10.00 | at0m | for directories, -type d |
| 00:10.05 | asternal | Thanks! |
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| 02:36.51 | Johnnyl | i fixed the problem!!! |
| 02:37.29 | Johnnyl | you'll never guess how. |
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| 03:14.24 | nilsonlinux | olá |
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| 03:53.06 | Infiltrator | How do I force initrd to include all the crypt stuff? I have /etc/cryptsetup, and GRUB has the crypt modules loaded, but initrd just complains that it cannot find the LVM and drops me to a shell. In that shell, there is no cryptsetup command to try it manually. |
| 03:57.33 | Johnnyl | I switched to OpenSuSE. |
| 03:57.36 | Infiltrator | I tried to copy /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot and scripts/cryptroot to /etc/initramfs-tools/ and then ran update-initramfs, but no change. |
| 03:57.43 | Johnnyl | thats how i solved the problem. ;) |
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| 03:59.16 | bit1 | Hi, I've upgraded to testing, I've this apt-get upgrade error: ImportError: No module named 'encodings' Any advice?, thanks in advance |
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| 04:10.31 | Infiltrator | bit1: Try #debian-next (this channel is for stable only). |
| 04:11.27 | bit1 | Infiltrator, thanks but #debian-next is only for invited users. |
| 04:13.59 | Arcademan | bit1, the official network for help with debian is irc.oftc.net #debian-next. |
| 04:14.05 | DeaDSouL | which cron daemon does debian use ? |
| 04:14.47 | bit1 | Arcademan, thanks :) |
| 04:15.10 | Arcademan | DeaDSouL, check https://wiki.debian.org/CronAnacronAtBatchSchedulers |
| 04:15.25 | Arcademan | anacron* |
| 04:15.42 | DeaDSouL | thanks Arcademan |
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| 04:26.22 | DeaDSouL | does debian use a system-logger or the systemd-journaling ? |
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| 04:28.18 | Arcademan | debian uses systemd so systemd-journaling |
| 04:29.13 | Arcademan | journalctl is the main command |
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| 04:30.33 | DeaDSouL | thanks :) |
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| 04:41.32 | deego | I know emacs has a large footprint. But, would it hurt debian to include the super-tiny mg, so people can get by when using a live cd? |
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| 04:41.47 | deego | or is there some other tiny emacs-like already included in debian live? |
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| 04:50.08 | Johnnyl | you know what I like about debian? |
| 04:50.18 | Johnnyl | that i'm no longer running it's bugs. |
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| 04:52.07 | ryouma | deego: nano is semi-usable |
| 04:52.23 | ryouma | dunno if it is included. it would be good if emacs were. |
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| 04:53.12 | Atm0spher1c | deego, include mg in debian live? because there is a package for it |
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| 06:02.54 | deego | ryouma: yeah, i do use it |
| 06:03.05 | deego | Atm0spher1c: yeah, in live |
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| 06:23.07 | eldebrim1 | since stretch was released, does that mean that sid is the current testing distro? |
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| 06:24.58 | Atm0spher1c | eldebrim1, sid will always be unstable |
| 06:25.30 | Atm0spher1c | eldebrim1, sid, the unstable kid from toy story |
| 06:25.40 | Atm0spher1c | eldebrim1, buster is testing |
| 06:26.15 | eldebrim1 | thanks. |
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| 06:29.54 | ofg|brtr | for sending and receiving email would Postfix suffice? |
| 06:30.20 | ofg|brtr | any good material on how to setting it up/ |
| 06:30.24 | ofg|brtr | ? |
| 06:30.57 | Atm0spher1c | ofg|brtr, have fun with that :D |
| 06:31.02 | Atm0spher1c | postfix is good |
| 06:31.17 | ofg|brtr | Atm0spher1c: was a tone of meaning behind your word. |
| 06:31.20 | ofg|brtr | :( |
| 06:31.35 | ofg|brtr | What should I do? |
| 06:31.43 | Atm0spher1c | postfix |
| 06:31.49 | jmcnaught | ofg|brtr: exim4 is the default MTA in Debian, Postfix is another excellent choice (it's what I use) |
| 06:31.50 | Atm0spher1c | ofg|brtr, lookup ispmail |
| 06:32.10 | Atm0spher1c | ofg|brtr, https://workaround.org/ispmail |
| 06:32.18 | ofg|brtr | I did it previously setup the postfix but the help I used was crap. |
| 06:32.34 | ofg|brtr | I ended up with just sending and not receiving emails |
| 06:32.59 | jmcnaught | ofg|brtr: you should also be prepared to read some mail protocol RFCs and develop a solid understanding of how mail works if you are going to run a mail server. Otherwise just pay for a mail service |
| 06:33.02 | ofg|brtr | if you know or see any good material on the web could you forward me the link? |
| 06:33.08 | Atm0spher1c | ofg|brtr, mail is hard |
| 06:33.15 | ofg|brtr | I know that. |
| 06:33.19 | Atm0spher1c | ofg|brtr, i just did |
| 06:33.27 | hanasaki | could you help w/ bluetooth not working? gnome and debian 9 / BCM20702A0 |
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| 06:34.09 | hanasaki | jmcnaught: exim4 is still active? the listserv is quiet .. I have gotten just a few emails and they are all porn spam |
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| 06:34.31 | jmcnaught | ofg|brtr: The Book of Postfix by Hildebrandt and Koetter is a good introduction to Postfix as an MTA |
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| 06:34.55 | jmcnaught | hanasaki: presumably Debian would stop using it as the default MTA if upstream was dead |
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| 06:35.09 | hanasaki | jmcnaught: what do you like in postfix over exim? not a mta war.. just looking for info. |
| 06:35.43 | jmcnaught | probably because i had the above book when i started learning mail |
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| 06:37.36 | jmcnaught | that book was only a few years old when i read it, there's a lot of new material one would need to learn but most of the changes in Postfix add new features instead of changing old ones |
| 06:39.19 | hanasaki | good reason :) |
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| 06:55.25 | TinkerTiger | Well, guess I've entered 9-land now. Heh. |
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| 07:29.21 | hanasaki | is this a known bug in debian 9 or know of a solution? bluetoothd[630]: Failed to obtain handles for "Service Changed" characteristic |
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| 07:32.59 | at0m | hanasaki: will you google that error or do you expect us to? |
| 07:35.22 | hanasaki | at0m: already did |
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| 07:41.55 | hanasaki | all the bluetooth looks installed ok and the device is up. however gnome btmanager doesn't find anything to pair with. pairing with a mac and windows works fine |
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| 07:44.42 | at0m | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=813949 |
| 07:44.43 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/813949 in bluetooth (open): «bluetooth: error causing service to be unusable: Not enough free handles to register service»; severity: normal; opened: 2016-02-07; last modified: 2017-03-07. |
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| 07:49.59 | hanasaki | at0m: thank you. seems that doesn't keep the daemon from running however no devices are found on scan. basically, for me , debian 9 seems to be broken for btooth |
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| 07:55.34 | cef | hanasaki: definitely not some sort of firmware issue with the bluetooth chipset? |
| 07:56.05 | hanasaki | cef: don't think so... have a suggestion to check it out? help is appreciated |
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| 07:58.04 | cef | hanasaki: have you got the firmware for your wireless/bluetooth chipset installed? not sure how to tell if it's not installed for the bluetooth one.. but I know htat some of the intel ones the bluetooth & wireless chipsets are combined and use combined firmware. |
| 07:58.37 | hanasaki | cef yes / bluetooth hci0: firmware: direct-loading firmware brcm/BCM20702A1-13d3-3404.hcd |
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| 08:02.05 | hanasaki | cef: anything else? |
| 08:02.54 | cef | hanasaki: not really sorry. I don't tend to use bluetooth much myself. thought however best to ask. |
| 08:03.00 | cef | hanasaki: good luck! |
| 08:03.10 | hanasaki | thank you |
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| 09:06.06 | kang0 | How it's useful |
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| 09:25.27 | mango | Hello |
| 09:25.49 | mango | I'm guessing the rx 5XX HDMI audio issue fixes didnt get backports to 4.9 ? |
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| 09:43.22 | b30wulf | anyone familiar with debian install on /dev/mmcblk0 for a computer whose BIOS does not recognize it as a boot device |
| 09:43.37 | b30wulf | for stretch |
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| 09:49.06 | klys | b30wulf, mbr or efi ? |
| 09:49.25 | ofg|brtr | hello |
| 09:49.38 | b30wulf | either. efi preferably |
| 09:49.40 | klys | hi |
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| 09:50.13 | ned_- | Debian 10 @ Cybernet |
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| 09:50.27 | klys | i don't know any uefi that works, so, if you want that then talk to someone who does that |
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| 09:51.01 | b30wulf | mbr is good too |
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| 09:51.34 | klys | mbr uses fdisk. you'll have to boot grub from a different device, thought. |
| 09:51.37 | ofg|brtr | hello; |
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| 09:51.55 | b30wulf | ok |
| 09:52.29 | klys | if running fdisk to create partitions, consider fdisk -u=cylinders |
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| 09:52.38 | ofg|brtr | my postfix has a simple config without LDAP. I can get emails for root@ but non of the other users such as admin@ info@ ..... |
| 09:53.09 | ofg|brtr | the sender on those cases receive 550 no person at this address |
| 09:53.17 | ofg|brtr | could any one give me a hint |
| 09:53.59 | ofg|brtr | n my logs I have the email comming but then it gets removed at the next line of the lo file |
| 09:54.01 | klys | ofg|brtr, do you have a file at /etc/pam.d/postfix (shot in the dark) |
| 09:55.07 | ofg|brtr | klys: I have directory /etcpam.d/dovecot |
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| 09:55.11 | ofg|brtr | is that it |
| 09:56.25 | klys | that's your imap server, not your mail relay |
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| 09:56.43 | GAit | if your hardware had problems with kernel 4.09 and had to use 4.10+, in stretch other than building my own kernel is there a way to do that that is cleaner/semi-automated or have to upgrade to testing/sid? |
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| 09:58.09 | klys | GAit, you can unpack the kernel package of your choice with dpkg -x file.deb /path/to/empty |
| 09:58.16 | nvz | GAit: when it comes to needing newer packages the standard method is to first check backports, and compiling your own kernel is easier than you may think |
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| 09:59.13 | GAit | nvz: i've done it a few times, not an expert by far but that's not the problem, i just prefer something less ad-hoc as much as possible |
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| 09:59.28 | nvz | ,versions linux-image-amd64 |
| 09:59.29 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; jessie-backports: 4.9+80~bpo8+1; sid: 4.9+80; stretch: 4.9+80; buster: 4.9+80 |
| 09:59.41 | nvz | currently 4.9 is the newest in any branch |
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| 10:00.20 | GAit | nvz: I see. Thus I suppose my only option is wait or build my own. I did notice stretch didn't have a backports yet, I suppose too new? |
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| 10:01.01 | nvz | GAit: are you familiar with kernel-package? |
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| 10:02.46 | GAit | nvz: i wasn't but i got an idea now. I never used it as far as i remember, it was more custom and less automated last time I played with my own kernel (and that was on first mandrake and then on arch) |
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| 10:03.47 | b30wulf | klys so just install to mmcblk0 and then put a grub entry on the preexisting HD install using /etc/grub.d/40_custom , update-grub ? no extra modules needed at boot time? |
| 10:04.27 | nvz | GAit: kernel-package is dead simple to use. make-kpkg --rootcmd=fakeroot --config=menuconfig binary from your kernel sourcedir will build menuconfig, run it and then compile the kernel when you exit and then build 4 debs for image,source,docs,headers |
| 10:05.02 | nvz | GAit: there are also options for patching and of course other config methods like using your old config |
| 10:06.23 | GAit | GAit: sounds like the way to go. |
| 10:06.29 | GAit | nvz: thanks |
| 10:08.07 | nvz | GAit: you'll need libncurses5-dev for menuconfig and fakeroot |
| 10:08.30 | nvz | GAit: you should never compile as root, its an unecessary risk |
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| 10:08.55 | klys | b30wulf, man mkinitrd |
| 10:09.06 | b30wulf | aight |
| 10:09.10 | debo | hi guys, back again trying to get my kde desktop working after upgrading to debian stretch |
| 10:09.22 | nvz | GAit: build-essential libncurses5-dev kernel-package fakeroot should cover it |
| 10:09.37 | debo | I get the following error in dmesg |
| 10:09.51 | debo | plasmashell[1595]: segfault at 0 ip abae078c sp bfd99974 error 4 in nouveau_dri.so[ab67b000+a14000] |
| 10:10.13 | GAit | agreed. ATM I am running something else as Stretch had first problems to boot even the installer until I disabled hybrid graphic and then would install but fail to boot. So now I think I need to re-install (since I'm running a different distro) and before rebooting get 4.10+ (which is known to work) |
| 10:10.36 | debo | there is no taskbar and I can not right-click the desktop |
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| 10:12.51 | nvz | debo: well the segfault in your dri driver doesnt sound good but errors you need are not in dmesg, theyre in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 10:13.14 | nvz | debo: go to paste.debian.net and upload the xorg log |
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| 10:15.17 | debo | Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0) |
| 10:15.30 | debo | do you want the whole file |
| 10:15.30 | nvz | debo: because if your problems were solely kernel driver you wouldnt have a desktop loaded to try clicking on |
| 10:15.36 | debo | this is the only EE |
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| 10:16.40 | debo | http://paste.debian.net/974345/ |
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| 10:22.14 | nvz | debo: so what display manager and desktop environment are you using? |
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| 10:22.52 | debo | sddm kde |
| 10:22.58 | debo | i guess |
| 10:23.16 | debo | but I'm not sure any more |
| 10:23.47 | debo | i installed task-kde-desktop |
| 10:23.56 | debo | kde-plasma-desktop |
| 10:24.01 | debo | kde-standard |
| 10:25.47 | debo | oh, and kde-full |
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| 10:31.42 | fallentree | When will debian evict the cancerous blob known as systemd? Why is this person allowed to develop the most used and thus most important middleware in the linux ecosystem? https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/6237 |
| 10:32.27 | bazhang | fallentree, thats just not ontopic here at all |
| 10:33.18 | bazhang | fallentree, #devuan is a fork sans systemd |
| 10:35.02 | debo | http://paste.debian.net/974346/ |
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| 11:00.19 | woshty | How do I get my regular scollbars in firefox back? I am running oldstable. |
| 11:01.27 | abrotman | regular? |
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| 11:01.36 | missmbob | woshty: i dont have firefox to test but i guess this https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/ |
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| 11:05.16 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
| 11:05.33 | abrotman | see, you joined and dpkg left |
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| 11:06.55 | missmbob | well, i know which i think is more valuable... |
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| 11:17.55 | superrorc | hey guys! how can i get default conf file on vanilla 9? |
| 11:18.08 | abrotman | that's vague |
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| 11:18.20 | superrorc | dpkg bot will help? |
| 11:18.21 | dpkg | superrorc: wish i knew |
| 11:18.28 | abrotman | superrorc: which package? |
| 11:19.05 | superrorc | apt sources.list |
| 11:19.06 | apt | If you have problems adding unofficial sites to sources.list, try "deb URL ./" or 'man 5 sources.list' or woody: 'deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free' or woody non-us: 'deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free', or use apt-setup in package base-config to configure your sources.list, or examples: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 11:19.15 | abrotman | superrorc: which package |
| 11:19.22 | abrotman | or which default conf |
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| 11:19.31 | superrorc | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:19.40 | abrotman | that would have been something great to add to your original questoin |
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| 11:20.17 | missmbob | for stretch? |
| 11:20.21 | superrorc | yes |
| 11:20.30 | missmbob | !stretch sources.list |
| 11:20.30 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Stretch" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main". Be sure to run «apt update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <stretch/updates> <stretch-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 11:20.32 | littlebit_ | hi people, I'm trying to dd a debian iso image onto a usb whose size is 128GB, yet I get a message from dd that there is no space left... |
| 11:20.35 | littlebit_ | can someone help? |
| 11:20.53 | abrotman | which device are you writing to? |
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| 11:21.20 | superrorc | wow! thanks a lot missmbob |
| 11:21.57 | missmbob | superrorc: you're welcome. try to be clearer right away next time :) |
| 11:22.09 | littlebit_ | abrotman: /dev/sdb1 |
| 11:22.24 | missmbob | that's why |
| 11:22.35 | littlebit_ | because of the 1? |
| 11:22.50 | abrotman | littlebit_: that's not what yu're supposed to do |
| 11:22.59 | missmbob | yes. you write to block device, not partition |
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| 11:23.04 | abrotman | littlebit_: typically you overwrite the whole device |
| 11:23.18 | abrotman | so, in your case, /dev/sdb |
| 11:23.27 | littlebit_ | abrotman: ah ok, I get it thx for the help |
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| 11:24.05 | superrorc | or you can copy iso files to partition and install boot loader ( lilo grub2) |
| 11:24.43 | abrotman | "typically" |
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| 11:41.26 | duban | Can gcc 7.1 compile older version of make software? |
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| 11:41.44 | iodev | duban: should be able to |
| 11:42.01 | iodev | although you may need to edit make's code here and there |
| 11:42.08 | iodev | or disable some error checks |
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| 11:45.04 | rishik_ | please tell a good channel for android queries ? |
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| 11:45.36 | kang0 | #android |
| 11:45.44 | iodev | rishik_: well, depends #android for usage, #android-dev for dev, #android-root for rooting! |
| 11:45.44 | kang0 | #android-dev |
| 11:45.50 | iodev | hi kang0 |
| 11:45.56 | kang0 | Hey |
| 11:46.00 | kang0 | You are very slow |
| 11:46.14 | iodev | kang0: me? |
| 11:46.19 | kang0 | Hmm |
| 11:46.24 | discovered | I had Ubuntu and windows 10 dual boot. Using usb i was trying to install debian 9.. After installation when i boot , it shows only grub command line. What could be the problem? |
| 11:46.59 | iodev | discovered: there could have been a lot of problems |
| 11:47.02 | missmbob | discovered: you used something like rufus or unetbootin? |
| 11:47.10 | discovered | yes, rufus |
| 11:47.20 | missmbob | discovered: that's known to break debian |
| 11:47.22 | missmbob | !rufus |
| 11:47.22 | dpkg | rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
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| 11:47.51 | missmbob | use win32diskimager (rename iso to img if you cant find it) |
| 11:48.06 | discovered | So i should use win22diskimager |
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| 11:48.16 | missmbob | and *dont* use live iso. that's really broken |
| 11:48.25 | discovered | i see |
| 11:48.28 | discovered | okay |
| 11:48.33 | missmbob | use netinst or one of the other inistaller iso's |
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| 11:49.30 | missmbob | i'm really serious about not using live :P |
| 11:50.10 | discovered | I was trying to find the KDE version of debian iso |
| 11:50.22 | dvs | which is a live iso |
| 11:50.42 | missmbob | you can install kde from netinst |
| 11:51.31 | missmbob | discovered: laptop? |
| 11:51.52 | discovered | desktop |
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| 11:52.09 | luichi | hello |
| 11:52.15 | luichi | i have a lenovo thinkpad e540 with debian 9 stretch installed upgraded and dist upgraded with bios also updated to version 2.2.4 and randomly when i resume after suspend the fan goes full speed during 8 seconds and then system shutdowns i want to know which logs to look to report the bug (in debian 8 jessie it didnt happen) |
| 11:52.15 | luichi | here is the output of sudo journalctl -p 3 -xb https://pastebin.com/Ap5FH0XP |
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| 11:55.21 | discovered | I had bad experience with sound in previous os ... |
| 11:55.25 | discovered | broken sound |
| 11:55.54 | discovered | Downloading the netinstall torrent |
| 11:56.27 | missmbob | discovered: jessie had 3.16 kernel. stretch has 4.9. pretty big difference so hopefully your sound will just work |
| 11:56.49 | discovered | sound problem was in kubuntu |
| 11:57.19 | discovered | missmbob, what package i need to install KDE? |
| 11:57.55 | missmbob | discovered: installer should run tasksel which will let you select which de you want |
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| 11:58.05 | discovered | oh |
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| 12:01.22 | missmbob | sleep time. good luck |
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| 12:01.32 | discovered | missmbob, Should i install master boot ? |
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| 12:07.35 | discovered | !usb install |
| 12:07.35 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
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| 12:12.46 | ofg|brtr | I can see the new mail by issuing the command mail. |
| 12:12.59 | ofg|brtr | but I can't get the attachment |
| 12:13.13 | ofg|brtr | I see the attachment but all are in the mail file |
| 12:13.17 | petemc | use mutt |
| 12:13.25 | ofg|brtr | located at /var/mail/<username> |
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| 12:14.05 | ofg|brtr | petemc: I did but I have new mail about 6 of those if I do mail command but there are not in mutt |
| 12:15.39 | Faulenzer | Did anyone meet the issue with laptop overheating with stretch after kernel upgrade in May? |
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| 12:41.54 | Urchin[emacs] | what's the quick way to restart X server on stretch? |
| 12:41.58 | Wulf | reboot |
| 12:42.14 | Wulf | or alt-sysrq-b |
| 12:42.41 | Wulf | Urchin[emacs]: or just logout, x server should restart |
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| 12:48.00 | Urchin[emacs] | Wulf: it's only displaying a cursor |
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| 12:49.26 | Urchin[emacs] | ok, this was weird |
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| 13:12.24 | james587 | is there a date for a debian stretch point release? |
| 13:12.52 | aexl | hi since the upgrade to stretch (stable) i can't open archives with file-roller. if the file ends with for example apk or xpi file-roller says "not supported". but if i rename the file i can open it without problems. is there any other workaround beside renaming? |
| 13:13.02 | hubot | Hi! |
| 13:13.27 | aexl | james587: point release? i think on 20 june it became stable. |
| 13:13.47 | james587 | 17th june |
| 13:13.51 | Eduard_Munteanu | Is there going to be a backport for nodejs? I see the current one in stretch is plagued by security issues and some things like npm aren't available. |
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| 13:15.04 | aexl | james587: right. was that your question? |
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| 13:16.26 | Eduard_Munteanu | Or should I go with sid's npm? |
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| 13:17.51 | nkuttler | ,v nodejs |
| 13:17.52 | judd | Package: nodejs on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 0.10.29~dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.10.29~dfsg-2; jessie-backports: 4.8.2~dfsg-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.8.2~dfsg-1; buster: 4.8.3~dfsg-1; sid: 4.8.3~dfsg-1; experimental: 6.11.0~dfsg-1 |
| 13:18.21 | Urchin[emacs] | it seems like my CPU is stuck on power save mode after the upgrade to stretch, this significantly reduces the performance |
| 13:19.40 | Eduard_Munteanu | ,v npm |
| 13:19.41 | judd | Package: npm on amd64 -- sid: 1.4.21+ds-2; jessie: 1.4.21+ds-2 |
| 13:19.53 | aexl | nkuttler: hi |
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| 13:23.19 | aexl | Urchin[emacs]: output of "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/stats/time_in_state"? |
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| 13:26.10 | judd | Package: debhelper on amd64 -- wheezy: 9.20120909; jessie-security: 9.20150101+deb8u2; jessie: 9.20150101+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 10.2.5~bpo8+1; buster: 10.2.5; stretch: 10.2.5; sid: 10.6.1 |
| 13:26.19 | Urchin[emacs] | aexl: 1600000 542 800000 305479 |
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| 13:27.10 | aexl | Urchin[emacs]: output of "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/scaling_available_governors"? |
| 13:29.03 | Urchin[emacs] | aexl: ondemand performance schedutil |
| 13:29.43 | aexl | Urchin[emacs]: output of "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/scaling_governor"? |
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| 13:30.11 | Urchin[emacs] | aexl: ondemand |
| 13:31.17 | aexl | Urchin[emacs]: i don't recommend putting it into "performance". but if you have problems try here: https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling |
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| 13:31.34 | Urchin[emacs] | ok |
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| 13:32.08 | Urchin[emacs] | I'll look into it |
| 13:32.11 | Urchin[emacs] | thanks |
| 13:32.31 | Urchin[emacs] | it took me a while to identify what this problem even was |
| 13:32.37 | aexl | yeah terrible |
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| 13:33.35 | aexl | you could also try some plugins for your desktop manager. there's an extension for gnome that monitors and can control the scaling governor. |
| 13:33.59 | Urchin[emacs] | lol, I'm using ratpoison |
| 13:34.10 | Urchin[emacs] | not exactly known for plugins |
| 13:34.15 | aexl | oh okay |
| 13:34.53 | aexl | good luck |
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| 13:35.45 | aexl | Urchin[emacs]: what's your device? |
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| 13:36.46 | Urchin[emacs] | a fairly ancient laptop with a 1.6GHz dual core Turion |
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| 13:37.42 | aexl | nice |
| 13:37.56 | aexl | i386 with stretch? |
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| 13:39.47 | Urchin[emacs] | it's 64 bit |
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| 13:40.16 | Urchin[emacs] | that's pretty much the weakest dual core amd64 CPU ever built |
| 13:40.23 | Urchin[emacs] | screen is nice, though |
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| 13:41.39 | aexl | nice. i got an old laptop (2008) that is 32 bit but i can't get debian running. it runs but the screen freezes after some minutes. maybe a hardware failure. |
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| 13:44.03 | aexl | 2004 i meant ... |
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| 13:45.18 | Urchin[emacs] | ah, mine was from late 2006 or early 2007 |
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| 13:49.29 | BluesKaj | aexl, graphics chip might require a proprietary driver |
| 13:50.13 | Urchin[emacs] | or the proprietary driver may no longer be supported |
| 13:50.23 | aexl | :D yeah right. i was just searching for the right phrase. |
| 13:50.29 | Urchin[emacs] | (happened to my graphics chip) |
| 13:50.45 | aexl | strange thing is that it starts. i can even see the gnome desktop ... |
| 13:50.50 | Urchin[emacs] | fortunately, there is an open source driver for mine |
| 13:51.07 | Urchin[emacs] | but it doesn't support 2D acceleration |
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| 13:52.28 | aexl | something like firmware-linux-nonfree :( |
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| 13:57.10 | aexl | for this system i just copied /lib/firmware/radeon/ it's somewhat faster with this. |
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| 13:57.45 | dvs | aexl, for a Radeon what? |
| 13:57.49 | Urchin[emacs] | from cpufreq-info: current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 800 MHz. |
| 13:57.54 | Urchin[emacs] | I think I see the problem |
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| 14:02.40 | aexl | dvs: ATI Radeon X1300/X1550 Pro [RV516] (this system is from 2007 ...) |
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| 14:04.58 | whathappen | Is ip addr the replacement for ifconfig ? |
| 14:05.25 | missmbob | yes. you can still get ifconfig if you must. net-tools package |
| 14:05.53 | aexl | and where to get ip addr? |
| 14:06.49 | aexl | or it just runs. still using /sbin/ifconfig |
| 14:07.59 | dvs | aexl, I think your video card is a hair too old for the firmware. The earliest RV code that I can see is RV610. |
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| 14:09.42 | aexl | dvs: oh this system runs alright (r300_cp.bin). i just have a problem with an even older laptop. not sure what hardware ... |
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| 14:12.58 | Urchin[emacs] | I can't change the scaling_max_freq from 800MHz |
| 14:14.06 | at0m | Urchin[emacs]: and grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo returns 800? or 1600? |
| 14:14.39 | Urchin[emacs] | 800 all the time |
| 14:15.14 | Urchin[emacs] | cpufreq-info does report that at one point the speed was at 1.60GHz |
| 14:15.33 | Urchin[emacs] | but it's set to only allow 800MHz |
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| 14:16.10 | aexl | maybe package linux-cpupower? |
| 14:16.44 | aexl | "It replaces "cpufreq-info" and "cpufreq-set" in cpufrequtils." |
| 14:17.02 | Urchin[emacs] | installing |
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| 14:21.55 | Urchin[emacs] | aexl: it does the identical thing, but gives less info |
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| 14:24.25 | aexl | guh sry |
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| 14:24.59 | Urchin[emacs] | anyway, thans for trying |
| 14:26.12 | aexl | try the hard way setting /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_min_freq? idk if that's possible. |
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| 14:27.12 | aexl | have you read the rest of the article? maybe there's still a chance. |
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| 14:31.41 | Urchin[emacs] | I'm trying to find a way |
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| 14:33.51 | aexl | cpufreq-set in the first link |
| 14:34.03 | Urchin[emacs] | I've already used that |
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| 14:34.47 | aexl | hmm okay good luck |
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| 14:38.06 | xa | hi |
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| 14:38.28 | dvs | lo |
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| 14:40.42 | hiya | Guy, useradd <USERNAME> -M -s /bin/false |
| 14:40.59 | hiya | would it create a user with least rights possible? |
| 14:41.41 | dvs | hiya, what rights do you want them to not have? |
| 14:41.57 | hiya | I want to grant a SSH SOCK5 proxy to someone |
| 14:42.06 | hiya | so that they can ssh -D |
| 14:42.17 | hiya | but I want no logs on the servers and no rights to create a file etc |
| 14:43.15 | dvs | hiya, Id think that using /bin/false as a shell would be enough to not let them login to the server (but I'm not a security expert) |
| 14:43.37 | hiya | ok I need to add -l as well |
| 14:43.45 | hiya | so -Ml |
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| 14:47.44 | discovered | Took more than 4 hours to download KDE desktop |
| 14:48.18 | Faulenzer | dial-up connections are still alive? |
| 14:48.42 | discovered | This is so called 4g here |
| 14:49.07 | Faulenzer | Ah, next gen dial-up |
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| 14:49.41 | discovered | hmm.. speed 50Kb to 500Kb |
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| 14:50.55 | discovered | I think you got 400+MBPS Faulenzer ? |
| 14:52.11 | Faulenzer | Frankly speaking, I have completely no idea, never tried to measure. Had no recent experience of downloading something for hours |
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| 14:52.20 | dvs | discovered, iso? |
| 14:52.32 | discovered | Should i install GRUB to master boot record? I did this with live cd and it was failed to boot. |
| 14:52.37 | discovered | dvs, netinstall |
| 14:52.45 | dvs | good |
| 14:53.04 | dvs | discovered, how big is the file? |
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| 14:54.09 | discovered | Now i am worried, it is asking if i want to install GRUB to the MASTER boot record. I did it with live DVD and now i can't boot the windows 10. dvs what should i do? YES or NO |
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| 14:55.33 | mtn | discovered, I imagine your bios/efi settings are for uefi boot, not mbr. |
| 14:55.50 | mtn | discovered, can you boot into debian? |
| 14:55.58 | discovered | No |
| 14:56.03 | kang0 | (kang0) What's use of sync and sparse option on dd command |
| 14:56.07 | discovered | it just stucked at grub mtn |
| 14:56.09 | kang0 | (kang0) Are those options available with other commands? |
| 14:56.14 | mtn | discovered, so, you did not install grub at all? |
| 14:56.38 | mtn | discovered, it is not recommended to install debian with the live disk. it is best to use the netinstall |
| 14:57.09 | discovered | mtn, now i am using netinstall. I already have windows 10. |
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| 14:57.26 | mtn | discovered, and it still fails to install grub? |
| 14:58.06 | discovered | mtn, no... Just waitingto choose Yes/No for master boot record. |
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| 14:58.32 | mtn | discovered, well, is your bios/efi settings for legacy or efi boot? windows will want efi |
| 14:59.13 | discovered | I did not check. my mobo is asus x99. Everything has default |
| 14:59.40 | _systemd_is_evil | how's going |
| 14:59.40 | mtn | discovered, better go look ;) if efi, then you will not install grub to mbr |
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| 15:00.35 | discovered | If i restart my computer then i have to start from first and wait another 4 hours to download all files |
| 15:00.44 | mtn | discovered, and is secure boot off? it should be |
| 15:00.50 | discovered | yes |
| 15:02.03 | mtn | discovered, well, you can take the option of installing to the mbr and see what happens. the netinstal has a rescue option to go fix problems after the reboot |
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| 15:02.48 | discovered | Yes, you guys are here to help :) |
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| 15:05.03 | discovered | Should i take off the usb before boot? (in case mbr did not work)!!! |
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| 15:07.02 | discovered | mtn, i am stuck |
| 15:07.15 | mtn | discovered, care to explain? |
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| 15:07.20 | discovered | it is giving me grub command line. |
| 15:07.47 | discovered | it says, GNU GRUB version 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.11 |
| 15:08.03 | mtn | discovered, that is not debian is it? |
| 15:08.04 | discovered | and command line grub> |
| 15:08.10 | discovered | it is debian |
| 15:08.13 | discovered | debian 9 |
| 15:08.37 | mtn | discovered, look at your bios settings now. what kind of boot are you doing? |
| 15:09.22 | discovered | checking |
| 15:10.41 | discovered | secure boot is enabled |
| 15:11.23 | mtn | discovered, you said it was off |
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| 15:12.29 | discovered | I did not check bios options before very carefully. Boot from storage devices : Legacy Only |
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| 15:13.24 | mtn | discovered, sorry, I need to go. see if you can use the rescure mode to fix your grub install. |
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| 15:13.45 | discovered | I have another thing that is bit confusing |
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| 15:14.38 | discovered | Boot Priority showing 2 Ubuntu(P1:ADATA SX930) . It should not be exist |
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| 15:16.21 | discovered | hey guys... I can boot. If i select manually the boot device |
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| 15:17.43 | discovered | I need a hand here to fix this please |
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| 15:18.24 | |DM| | So, I've got debian sid running with ryzen and a rx 560 |
| 15:18.30 | |DM| | Now I'm wondering how to get opencl running |
| 15:18.41 | |DM| | I installed the firmware, and the gpu is being used to render |
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| 15:21.29 | littlebit_ | hi people I have installed debian 32bit onto my laptop, where I have installed the most basic needs, only the terminal. All went well but there is no network. ifconfig tells me: command not found |
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| 15:22.23 | LtL | littlebit_: try 'ip a ' |
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| 15:23.36 | |DM| | littlebit_, don't forget sudo |
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| 15:23.48 | |DM| | normal users can't use ifconfig |
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| 15:24.32 | littlebit_ | |DM|: i know that I need to do sudo but being root and doing an infconfig didn't help |
| 15:25.34 | |DM| | then I'd agree with LtL try out the ip command |
| 15:25.52 | LtL | |DM|: i can |
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| 15:26.45 | littlebit_ | LtL: how do you then get the interface up? |
| 15:26.53 | |DM| | LtL, a root among plebs, the boy who supered |
| 15:27.09 | |DM| | I think he was making a joke about normal users. |
| 15:27.36 | LtL | littlebit_: i upgraded from Jessie, i assume ifupdown script does it. |
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| 15:28.56 | littlebit_ | ok |
| 15:29.00 | littlebit_ | thx |
| 15:29.48 | LtL | littlebit_: this is not a minimal install either, also i've read a clean stretch install has changed many things including interface names. although i doubt thats your problem. does sudo dmesg say anything about missing firmware? |
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| 15:31.33 | LtL | this is the first debian release that needs root privs for dmesg, weird. |
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| 15:33.14 | discovered | ... |
| 15:33.15 | |DM| | So, anyone have suggestions on getting openCL/numa running for either a ryzen or rx 560 (artic islands) ? |
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| 15:39.01 | qqumber | i feel a great amount of shame upon myself. I'm not sure whta it is, but I feel it. |
| 15:39.26 | qqumber | I cannot confirm whether it's because of something I have done or haven't done, it can't be computed. |
| 15:39.39 | qqumber | who am I? Is that what it is about? Who I am? |
| 15:40.01 | at0m | qqumber: no idea, but you're in #debian not #debian-offtopic |
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| 15:43.06 | |DM| | Well, does someone at least have some keywords that i can google to figure out how to setup opencl? |
| 15:45.03 | LtL | |DM|: i cant warranty this but theres many hits, https://wiki.tiker.net/OpenCLHowTo |
| 15:45.12 | |DM| | ty |
| 15:45.21 | LtL | np |
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| 15:50.34 | whathappen | Is nvidia still better than amd for 3d graphics ? |
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| 15:52.49 | Faulenzer | about 15 years ago, ATI had poorer quality drivers. Never tried them since then |
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| 15:54.22 | whathappen | amd relies on the foss community to give them drivers |
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| 15:56.16 | Faulenzer | my personal preference would be Intel if I need something cheaper |
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| 15:58.18 | |DM| | I'm not having issues with amd on linux, both mobile and pc |
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| 15:58.40 | |DM| | well, aside from having problems getting opencl up and running but opencl is outdated so... |
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| 16:01.02 | Faulenzer | |DM| do you mean "cellular phone" when you say mobile? Or laptop? |
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| 16:07.35 | |DM| | Faulenzer, laptop |
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| 16:11.51 | IHaveNoName | rawr |
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| 16:12.47 | LtL | |DM|: for starters check, apt-cache show clinfo |
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| 16:15.17 | Faulenzer | |DM| Does your laptop have two video adapters, like intel and amd? Or just amd? I am curious because nVidia-based laptops often have this, and from the configuration perspective it is easier to have just one :) |
| 16:15.33 | password4 | Hi |
| 16:15.48 | Faulenzer | password4: hi |
| 16:15.50 | password4 | Can i ask some networking adice here ? |
| 16:16.02 | password4 | Advice* |
| 16:16.28 | password4 | ##networking is going on about politics |
| 16:16.41 | at0m | gnaa has another meeting there? |
| 16:16.42 | th0r | password4, try just asking the question |
| 16:16.47 | LtL | password4: debian? of course you can |
| 16:17.06 | |DM| | Faulenzer, yes, the laptop had an intel iGPU and a seperate amd GPU |
| 16:17.12 | password4 | I want to route internet through my server so desktop --- server --- wifi router |
| 16:17.27 | |DM| | I agree, it is *much* easier to have just one, which is why I went with a CPU that doesnt have an iGPU for my PC build |
| 16:17.34 | password4 | What gateway does my desktop need and what routes should i add? |
| 16:17.43 | |DM| | LtL, I have clinfo installed |
| 16:17.57 | |DM| | I got opencl running on the card, but hashcat hates it so its not going to work |
| 16:18.06 | |DM| | And they don't use vulkan either, but I got vulkan to work |
| 16:18.12 | |DM| | Guess I'm using john instead then. |
| 16:18.12 | th0r | password4, your desktop will simply use the server ip as its gateway address |
| 16:18.27 | password4 | Hmm |
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| 16:19.09 | password4 | do i need to add a route on my server then |
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| 16:19.35 | th0r | password4, your server will have to be set up to do ip masq I believe. |
| 16:19.54 | password4 | Fun |
| 16:20.02 | password4 | Ive never done that before |
| 16:20.41 | th0r | password4, there is plenty of info on the web about how to configure that. I don't recall how it was done offhand |
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| 16:21.32 | th0r | password4, you might also consider running at least basic iptables rules for a firewall |
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| 16:22.50 | th0r | password4, look for 'iptables for linux', there is tons of info including rulesets you can use |
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| 16:23.37 | password4 | Ive been finding a lot of half written guides.... |
| 16:24.59 | loeken | password4, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
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| 16:25.10 | loeken | iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT |
| 16:25.10 | loeken | iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.9.1.0/24 -j ACCEPT |
| 16:25.25 | loeken | ro route traffic from 10.9.1.0/24 to internet |
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| 16:26.33 | paqcito | Hi, I'm starting with virtualization. What do you recommend me to learn? Since I'm looking forward to become a Linux SysAdmin. |
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| 16:27.35 | password4 | loeken what ae those ips referring to? |
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| 16:30.07 | Faulenzer | password4: yeah, when I looked through this topic about twenty years ago, I found freebsd firewall much easier for understanding than linux one. I am not surprised if the situation is still the same. However I do believe there are good guides in internet. It's Debian, there should be something more or less good. |
| 16:32.01 | hanasaki | help please fixing bluetooth: syslog says the drivers are loaded OK however the gnome control panel shows now devices on scan |
| 16:32.20 | Faulenzer | firmware perhaps? |
| 16:32.22 | hanasaki | [ 2.479716] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM20702A1 (001.002.014) build 1479 |
| 16:32.23 | hanasaki | [ 2.485102] bluetooth hci0: firmware: direct-loading firmware brcm/BCM20702A1-13d3-3404.hcd |
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| 16:33.34 | password4 | Hmm |
| 16:34.04 | loeken | password4, 10.9.0.0/24 is the subnet you want to forward to the internet |
| 16:34.39 | loeken | aka the wifi in your example, you probably hae another range set tehre |
| 16:34.48 | password4 | so subnet of my desktop |
| 16:35.02 | Faulenzer | hanasaki: it could be the situation, that you have wrong firmware loaded. From another chip, perhaps |
| 16:35.08 | password4 | I tried it , but cant ping wifi router |
| 16:35.09 | loeken | no the wifi, you want the wifi traffic to be forwarded |
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| 16:36.27 | password4 | Woops , how do i clear the wrong rule then? |
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| 16:36.48 | password4 | And to be clear i set all this up on my server? |
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| 16:39.34 | at0m | indeed. on the clients, set server IP as gateway |
| 16:40.02 | password4 | Hmm i did all that , no routing |
| 16:40.11 | th0r | password4, just to be clear, when you moved the ethernet from your wifi router to your server, did you plug the server into the same port on the wifi router? |
| 16:40.19 | th0r | password4, if so....it is wrong |
| 16:40.20 | password4 | It goes upto eth0 of the server |
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| 16:40.45 | password4 | Th0r? |
| 16:41.02 | password4 | i did not change anything like that |
| 16:41.09 | yuvadm | what's the 'right' way to install python 3.6 system-wide for use in virtualenvs? i don't want to override /usr/bin/python, just want /usr/bin/python3.6 available |
| 16:41.29 | password4 | I was using squid all this time to route through my server |
| 16:42.08 | password4 | My server has a wifi dongle in it , the Only cable is the lan between server and desktop |
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| 16:42.58 | password4 | Can i pastebin my iptables and network settings? |
| 16:43.09 | loeken | yes |
| 16:44.19 | th0r | loeken, I don't know if he can do it that way...the server will have the same network on both ends |
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| 17:10.27 | password4 | Oh well |
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| 17:27.32 | discovered | Can anyone help me to repair the grub...please |
| 17:28.19 | bedah | sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub |
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| 17:32.13 | Wulf | discovered: update-grub |
| 17:32.41 | |DM| | I cant find libssl or libcrypto anywhere |
| 17:32.51 | |DM| | I've installed and reinstalled libssl so many times |
| 17:32.54 | |DM| | help ;-; |
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| 17:34.07 | at0m | |DM|: libssl1.1 |
| 17:35.37 | |DM| | yes, that's what I've installed and reinstalled |
| 17:35.44 | at0m | hmm |
| 17:35.46 | |DM| | but I cannot find libssl or libcrypto in /usr/lib or /lib |
| 17:36.01 | |DM| | and a program I'm trying to run depends on libcrypto so it wont run |
| 17:36.16 | |DM| | but obviously its somewhere, since like half the packages depend on ssl |
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| 17:37.30 | |DM| | and the openssl command exists and is running |
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| 17:38.03 | mtn | discovered, try this: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ |
| 17:39.10 | LtL | |DM|: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.1 |
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| 17:40.28 | LtL | |DM|: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so |
| 17:40.37 | |DM| | mango@moko:/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu$ ls |grep ssl |
| 17:40.40 | |DM| | prints out nothing |
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| 17:41.30 | LtL | |DM|: use find /usr/ -iname 'libssl*' |
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| 17:42.07 | |DM| | that prints out multiple lines |
| 17:42.26 | |DM| | some of them in/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ |
| 17:42.33 | LtL | |DM|: it should |
| 17:42.45 | |DM| | Right, but then why can't I find them with ls O.o |
| 17:43.01 | |DM| | And why cant the dynamic loader find them |
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| 17:44.51 | LtL | |DM|: i've had that happen compiling and you need to add -=/path/to/libssl.whatever or soething like that, even though it's there |
| 17:45.12 | LtL | *something |
| 17:45.27 | |DM| | But I dont understand why ls doesnt show it |
| 17:46.08 | LtL | |DM|: recursive maybe? |
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| 17:46.17 | LtL | needs to be |
| 17:46.44 | LtL | nm, youre in the dir.. i dunno |
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| 17:47.13 | |DM| | going to try restarting... |
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| 17:48.03 | LtL | it does |
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| 17:50.20 | |DM| | rebooting magically fixed it |
| 17:50.20 | LtL | |DM|: ls /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ |grep libssl* |
| 17:50.31 | LtL | |DM|: works |
| 17:51.07 | LtL | |DM|: updatedb might have worked instead |
| 17:51.14 | |DM| | ls /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ |grep libssl.* works |
| 17:51.24 | |DM| | ls doesnt use db does it? |
| 17:51.33 | LtL | i dunno |
| 17:51.48 | LtL | |DM|: that cmd worked here |
| 17:52.07 | |DM| | weird. |
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| 17:54.36 | discovered | mtn, At installing time i booted the usb in legacy mode instead UEFI. |
| 17:55.08 | mtn | discovered, and installed debian using legacy boot, right? |
| 17:55.16 | discovered | yes |
| 17:55.52 | mtn | discovered, ok, then fix your mbr grub install |
| 17:56.01 | discovered | How i do this? |
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| 17:56.34 | mtn | discovered, try this: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ |
| 17:56.57 | discovered | I can boot windows and debian . but i need to select them from bios boot option |
| 17:57.33 | mtn | discovered, so, change your boot order in the bios settings, so it is booting off of the hard drive |
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| 17:59.17 | discovered | mtn, The windows boot should be listed in debian grub. I think the previous ubuntu mbr not deleted? Because i see two ubuntu boot list still exist there. |
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| 17:59.46 | mtn | discovered, yes, you did not install grub correctly. as I told you a long time ago |
| 17:59.46 | discovered | in boot device list |
| 18:00.06 | jelly | those are just entries in efi boot |
| 18:00.14 | discovered | to fix it i can use Super Grub2 Disk ... right |
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| 18:00.19 | discovered | ? |
| 18:00.25 | jelly | there's a way to delete them, but I have no idea how |
| 18:00.51 | jelly | use efibootmgr and read its manual carefully before doing something silly |
| 18:01.12 | discovered | mtn, i just followed the normal way when installed debian |
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| 18:08.22 | mtn | discovered, I just thought of something. turn your bios back to efi start and then repair grub. it won't work as legacy boot. |
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| 18:09.32 | discovered | mtn, I checked the bios . Boot control device is set to UEFI & Legacy ... Other option avaliable is UEFI only and Legacy Only |
| 18:09.32 | jelly | oh, discovered has grub-pc installed instead of grub-efi-amd64? |
| 18:10.00 | jelly | discovered: which grub packages do you have installed |
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| 18:10.20 | discovered | jelly, grub2? |
| 18:11.27 | discovered | in /boot/grub i see grub.cfg ... should it not be there efi file too? |
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| 18:12.48 | discovered | mtn, I tried to use rescue mode ... Most of partition can't mount |
| 18:13.22 | jelly | discovered: dpkg -l grub\* |grep ^.i |
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| 18:14.45 | discovered | jelly, https://pastebin.com/ixUZ0bm7 |
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| 18:19.29 | discovered | partitions : https://pastebin.com/0GbQncjU |
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| 18:23.34 | discovered | jelly, any advice? |
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| 18:26.00 | MagikaRosy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYvqMpJd7Sw quicktalkeh676te.onion/6697: jannic Andreas33 jonasbits_ digastricus cusco huqinlou enki SwK Voldenet boubou internot styles ibex gacekjk Doo AlexZ_ Furai bhuvi_ nolsen msev- jbobbiz flipp namix SupaYoshi peterandre Sir_Designer merinos ryouma marens grubles uxfi pythonsnake gareth__ ghost43 Enrico_Menotti frediz KindOne ecksun nicoulaj46 debchan lbatalha skney mar77i optimus R2AMO masber vo |
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| 18:26.16 | Voldenet | *yawn* |
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| 18:27.26 | wonderer | hi all |
| 18:27.39 | wonderer | appart form apt-get and chroot |
| 18:28.25 | wonderer | can i update a kernel by just copying the kernel files from some other live systems |
| 18:29.11 | Voldenet | /kind of/ |
| 18:30.22 | rudi_s | wonderer: If you also copy the modules, yes. But why not just installed the proper .deb package? |
| 18:30.38 | Voldenet | rudi_s: custom kernel, probably |
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| 18:31.12 | rudi_s | Then better build a .deb for that kernel. |
| 18:31.26 | rudi_s | make -j10 deb-pkg |
| 18:32.48 | wonderer | oh |
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| 18:33.07 | wonderer | just download the kernel files form deb package? |
| 18:33.23 | rudi_s | wonderer: What do you mean? |
| 18:33.23 | wonderer | one reason i cant use convential way is due to fact serve ris offline |
| 18:33.33 | wonderer | <rudi_s> wonderer: If you also copy the modules, yes. But why not just installed the proper .deb package? |
| 18:33.35 | rudi_s | make -j10 deb-pkg is to be used in the kernel source. |
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| 18:33.50 | wonderer | ? |
| 18:33.55 | rudi_s | wonderer: I'm confused. |
| 18:33.57 | Voldenet | wonderer: if you want to just upgrade the kernel offline, you can fetch the deb package |
| 18:34.02 | wonderer | yea am too |
| 18:34.13 | wonderer | cool thx Voldenet |
| 18:34.20 | wonderer | thx rudi_s :) |
| 18:34.28 | rudi_s | np |
| 18:34.35 | rudi_s | There are few tools to help with offline hosts. |
| 18:34.45 | rudi_s | But nowadays that's rarely relevant. Why is the host offline? |
| 18:34.54 | rudi_s | And how do you perform updates on an offline host? |
| 18:34.55 | wonderer | doe sit matter |
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| 18:36.18 | |DM| | Still can't get opencl to run on ryzen |
| 18:36.20 | rudi_s | Well, what I'm saying is, don't run a system without updates even if it's an "offline host". |
| 18:36.31 | rudi_s | That doesn't make it more secure, but less secure. |
| 18:36.37 | |DM| | clinfo shows it can see/use the gpu, but hashcat is complaining. But hashcat could just be shit. |
| 18:36.53 | |DM| | Anyone here manage to get opencl running with ryzen on debian stretch/sid ? |
| 18:37.19 | Voldenet | rudi_s has the point, no updates don't make the system secure at all |
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| 18:38.14 | Voldenet | (it's harder to exploit the offline system) |
| 18:38.52 | jelly | wonderer: yes it matters. Do you mean it's merely not connected to internet, it's powered off, you're going to apply updates by putting the disk in a different machine or what? |
| 18:39.30 | jelly | there are utilities to help updating a system that's merely not connected to internet, |
| 18:39.33 | jelly | !apt-zip |
| 18:39.33 | dpkg | Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. Just aptitude install apt-zip and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/apt-zip, or ask me about <apt offline> <apt-walkabout>. http://wiki.debian.org/AptZip |
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| 18:41.35 | jelly | wonderer: and there are other options, see /msg dpkg apt offline, /msg dpkg apt-walkabout |
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| 18:43.05 | wonderer | thx |
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| 18:45.11 | wonderer | The kernel/module update is required to ensure the OS works across a migration to new host hw |
| 18:46.36 | wonderer | i also like to lear of a way to ensure apt doesnt update/upgrade when its done manualy by a sys admin |
| 18:47.18 | wonderer | to ensure nothing breaks form an update going forward |
| 18:49.22 | wonderer | jelly can u give me an example of a kernel download i can download and install |
| 18:49.37 | wonderer | just need s ource url so i know what file/webpage to look for |
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| 18:53.25 | Limebyte | fucking wankers |
| 18:53.28 | Limebyte | stop tagging me |
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| 18:56.37 | wonderer | Limebyte how about toning down the language |
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| 18:59.25 | rudi_s | wonderer: packages.debian.org/linux-image-4.9.0-3-amd64 (for stretch, linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 for jessie) and "follow" the download links. |
| 18:59.35 | rudi_s | However the files are not signed so you will be basically downloading untrusted code. |
| 18:59.50 | rudi_s | (Normally APT will verify that, but if you just install it with dpkg that won't happen.) |
| 19:00.04 | wonderer | thx rudi_s |
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| 19:00.42 | rudi_s | Either you do it manually or you think about connecting the host temporarily to the internet (if possible) or use one of the alternatives jell<tab> mentioned. |
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| 19:06.26 | hanasaki | Faulenzer: about the bluetooth and firmware.. how do I check it? |
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| 19:11.49 | f-a | hello. I can connect to the internet, but when I do connect: Network is unreachable |
| 19:12.04 | f-a | welp, when I do `ping6 google.com` I get connect: Network is unreachable |
| 19:12.38 | rudi_s | f-a: Any IPv6 routes? ip -6 r |
| 19:12.54 | rudi_s | You should get a default route. |
| 19:13.03 | f-a | rudi_s: fe80::/64 dev wlp2s0 proto kernel metric 256 pref medium |
| 19:13.39 | rudi_s | f-a: No default route. |
| 19:13.49 | rudi_s | So you won't have any IPv6 connectivity. |
| 19:14.03 | f-a | :s I see thanks |
| 19:14.52 | rudi_s | f-a: You need an IPv6 router which either uses DHCPv6 or SLAAC to distribute IPv6 routes. |
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| 19:15.46 | rudi_s | (Well or ttatic default routes.) |
| 19:15.49 | rudi_s | *static |
| 19:18.21 | Dagger | nitpick: neither DHCPv6 or SLAAC can do routes. routes are done by RAs |
| 19:18.37 | Dagger | but yeah, you'll certainly need a route to the v6 internet if you want to reach the v6 internet |
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| 19:30.39 | afuentes | Does postfix run in a chroot in jessie by default? |
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| 19:34.07 | jelly | afuentes: yes |
| 19:34.12 | thecat | I have chromium 59 in Stretch |
| 19:34.26 | thecat | how can I enable lash plugin ? |
| 19:34.33 | thecat | flash plugin |
| 19:35.33 | missmbob | https://gist.github.com/ruario/3c873d43eb20553d5014bd4d29fe37f1 |
| 19:35.54 | thecat | all howtos that I found seem to be outdated, and contradict each other |
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| 19:37.03 | dw1 | created a stretch live usb now want to put rt2870.bin on it for ease of install but it's stuck on read only and hdparm -r0 doesn't help. is my flash drive dying lol |
| 19:37.17 | aexl | missmbob: this needs sudo right? |
| 19:38.04 | afuentes | thanks jelly |
| 19:38.22 | missmbob | aexl: i dont know. i did it as root intending for a system install |
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| 19:39.18 | jelly | afuentes: having chroot enabled for most postfix services is one thing debian's config does different from upstream |
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| 19:46.14 | afuentes | I see jelly, its the first line in /usr/share/doc/postfix/README.Debian too |
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| 19:46.38 | afuentes | although it doesnt say much about the chroot itself in there |
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| 19:47.54 | afuentes | I finally manage to put the right paths to make dkim work... yay! |
| 19:47.55 | lat3n8ta | i did a fresh install of stretch and things have indeed changed. iwconfig wlp2s0 rate 11M does not change the rate to 11M. how can i change the rate of my wireless interface on stretch? |
| 19:48.55 | hiroki | How long (in general) for a package from testing to move to stable ? |
| 19:49.16 | missmbob | 2.5yrs |
| 19:49.35 | missmbob | stable doesnt get new packages. that's why it's stable |
| 19:49.57 | hiroki | missmbob: Sorry, I meant package updates :) |
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| 19:50.34 | missmbob | there arent any. just big security fixes |
| 19:51.05 | hiroki | Ah, alright, thanks for the info |
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| 19:54.13 | aexl | small security fixes are also patched via security.debian.org |
| 19:54.27 | ryouma | 2.5y? isn't that release to release? or is pre-freeze sluggish? |
| 19:54.44 | f-a | since updating to stretch I have a troubles encrypting/decrypting gpg emails with mutt (could not decrypt email). Is anyone here using mutt? If so, could you share the relevant portion o muttrc so I can cannibalise it? |
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| 20:03.50 | aexl | anybody got mlb.tv working? i tried firefox 52.2.0 and google-chrome-stable 57.0.2987.110-1 both with flashplayer 26.0.0.131. i only get audio. |
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| 20:11.30 | rudi_s | f-a: Did you check the news file in /usr/share/doc/mutt? |
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| 20:12.03 | negatratoron | just installed gimp, menus are invisible http://i.imgur.com/pJWZWVD.png |
| 20:12.09 | negatratoron | anybody seen that? |
| 20:12.35 | aexl | version? |
| 20:12.37 | f-a | rudi_s: not really, I'll start from that |
| 20:12.54 | negatratoron | gimp 2.8.20 |
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| 20:13.40 | aexl | ,v gimp |
| 20:13.41 | judd | Package: gimp on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.8.2-2+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 2.8.2-2+deb7u2; jessie: 2.8.14-1+deb8u1; jessie-security: 2.8.14-1+deb8u1; stretch: 2.8.18-1; sid: 2.8.20-1; buster: 2.8.20-1 |
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| 20:14.50 | negatratoron | clicked the invisible file menu http://i.imgur.com/IoUp8PP.png |
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| 20:49.06 | pie3 | anyone uses yacy? is it effective than google? |
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| 20:55.03 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 20:55.04 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.11.0-trunk-686 (4.11.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.11.0-1-686 (4.11.6-1); buster: 4.11.0-1-686 (4.11.6-1); stretch: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.30-2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.89-2) |
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| 20:55.55 | hiroki | Using 'APT::Default-Release "stable";' and having added 'testing' to the APT sources list with the goal of adding a single package from there. Would I need to involve myself with APT pinning using .pref files in preferences.d, or is the default-release directive in apt.conf sufficient ? |
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| 21:02.03 | waresoft | hi |
| 21:02.16 | waresoft | So I got a very large amount of quite small files - I want to push them all over SSH onto another server |
| 21:02.23 | cybrNaut | pie3: "effective" is vague. If you mean effective at establishing network neutrality, then yes yacy is the clear winner (it's decentralized) |
| 21:02.26 | waresoft | upload speed is nice - but I rather think the many small files cause an overhead |
| 21:02.30 | waresoft | what tool is best for this task? |
| 21:02.39 | cybrNaut | google is known to manipulate results |
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| 21:03.02 | cybrNaut | they were caught manipulating results during the US political compaign |
| 21:03.08 | pie3 | have you used yacy? cybrNaut |
| 21:03.17 | ryouma | waresoft: if small files are /really/ a problem then you could serialize. |
| 21:03.18 | cybrNaut | pie3: briefly |
| 21:03.36 | pie3 | google gives result what is desired immediately and in initiall set of pages most of the time |
| 21:03.41 | pie3 | hence i cant avoid it |
| 21:03.45 | cybrNaut | pie3: i prefer searx.me, b/c yacy is not yet tor-friendly |
| 21:03.47 | pie3 | i ahvent yet used yach thoguh |
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| 21:04.09 | cybrNaut | try google on Tor. It sucks |
| 21:04.42 | pie3 | since i dont care about tor as of now i am not interested in it |
| 21:05.10 | waresoft | ryouma: serialize? |
| 21:05.14 | ryouma | why no onion for searx? |
| 21:05.17 | ryouma | waresoft: tar |
| 21:05.37 | pie3 | searx dont seem impressive cybrNaut |
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| 21:05.48 | cybrNaut | pie3: tor helps privacy globally. You should support it and boycott those who are tor-hostile just to help whistle-blowers and those doing the world (and you) a service |
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| 21:06.00 | pie3 | i heard tor is slow |
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| 21:06.15 | cybrNaut | if you're not using it, it doesn't matter |
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| 21:06.21 | Guest18807 | #ubuntu |
| 21:06.22 | cybrNaut | either way, you should support it |
| 21:07.04 | cybrNaut | tor is slow-er than non-tor connections, of course. For me, it's fast enough |
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| 21:08.55 | waresoft | What tool/command can upload a large 7z file and continue in case of connection issues - and even prevents checksum errors? |
| 21:09.06 | waresoft | I mean a reliable tool for pushing a very large file over ssh? |
| 21:09.12 | ryouma | waresoft: check out rsync |
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| 21:11.52 | ryouma | waresoft: i can't find continue optiont though |
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| 21:17.25 | waresoft | ryouma: will this also prevent corruption of large file? |
| 21:17.28 | waresoft | e.g. a 15GB large file |
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| 21:17.37 | waresoft | it contains many many small files, hence the large file archive |
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| 21:17.53 | waresoft | now I want it being uploaded without corruption - or atleast to upload corrupted parts - not everything again |
| 21:18.51 | waresoft | ok, better upload the many small files? |
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| 22:21.55 | nvz | my father is using firefox-esr on jessie and is getting a message saying vetfriends.com is down for maint i checked the site from here and its up and i had him try accessing it by ip to rule out dns and clear cache idk why he is unable to access this site. |
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| 22:22.52 | th0r | nvz, can he get to it using another browser? |
| 22:24.26 | nvz | he says chromium doesnt work either |
| 22:25.17 | th0r | nvz, it is unlikely, but it might be that the isp is blocking it. They sometimes subscribe to a blacklist that will once in a while go awry |
| 22:25.38 | th0r | if he pings it, does it return an ip address? |
| 22:26.06 | th0r | nvz, the ping itself might fail, but it should at least return an ip showing that dns is working |
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| 22:26.36 | LtL | nvz: VetFriends.com down for maintenance. Will return in a few minutes. Thank you. |
| 22:26.59 | LtL | nvz: thats what i get |
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| 22:27.26 | nvz | it works for me on my orange pi with android |
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| 22:28.45 | nvz | im loading the page fine if its doing it for you too its not an isolated issue |
| 22:28.45 | mtn | down here for me, too |
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| 22:30.53 | nvz | i wonder whats going on i'll have to try it from debian later when i reboot the pi with the other os |
| 22:31.16 | LtL | nvz: clear your cache |
| 22:31.31 | nvz | if youre all using debian and im on android maybe its debian specific somehow |
| 22:31.54 | nvz | it cant be my cache when you all have the issue |
| 22:32.29 | nvz | i just installed this h3droid today and installed the browser im using less than an hour ago and now is the first time i went to the site |
| 22:32.37 | nvz | so my cache is clean |
| 22:33.07 | LtL | nvz: odd, its loads on iphone |
| 22:33.23 | LtL | firefox, ios |
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| 22:37.39 | nvz | i dont understand how a site loading can be a debian specific issue |
| 22:37.58 | nvz | its not like its silverlight or something weird |
| 22:38.21 | LtL | f'ing strange |
| 22:38.38 | mtn | nvz, it isn't. I am using arch and it is down for me, too |
| 22:38.48 | LtL | whew |
| 22:38.57 | nvz | its loading now reported on android and ios |
| 22:39.20 | nvz | maybe its checking user agent? |
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| 22:39.46 | LtL | nvz: but why |
| 22:40.23 | nvz | idk doesnt make sense its just a simole military site for buying hats and checking up on people you served with |
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| 22:41.53 | th0r | nvz, interesting, my chrome on debian says it is down, but my chromium on a raspberry pi loads it just fine |
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| 22:42.27 | nvz | yes its very strange |
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| 22:43.09 | nvz | its got me wanting to boot into debian to try figure it out and contact the site admin |
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| 22:44.34 | nvz | i'll be back in a minute im gonna put the card in with the debian bootloader and restart |
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| 23:04.02 | nvz | LtL: mtn so far i tried xombrero and that site works im waiting on firefox to load.. its gonna be hard to figure this out if i cant reproduce the issue |
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| 23:05.10 | th0r | nvz, I am running raspbian via vnc, so I have one screen with chromium AND firefox displaying the page, and another screen with both chrome and firefox failing |
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| 23:06.36 | nvz | th0r: so its working on rasbian and not on debian youre saying? |
| 23:07.05 | ryouma | hmm, fluxbox will not run in wayland? |
| 23:08.35 | nvz | im not just interested cause my dad has a membership to this site, this is the strangest f'n issue ive ever seen.. its worth figuring out what the issue is just out of sheer curiousity and avoiding this kinda issue |
| 23:08.37 | th0r | nvz,right....I can post screenshots if you like |
| 23:09.53 | nvz | th0r: na on this pi screenshots are cumbersome |
| 23:10.02 | nvz | thats why i was using h3droid, debian is slow on the opi lite |
| 23:10.02 | nvz | i use mostly console when in debian |
| 23:10.18 | th0r | nvz, I run xfce on everything, so screenshots are a snap <smile> |
| 23:10.49 | nvz | it seems like its loading here on stretch orangepi lite |
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| 23:11.15 | nvz | seems like firefox is using tcp/cp |
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| 23:12.08 | nvz | dpkg tcp/cp is telecomunication protocol over carrier pigeon |
| 23:12.08 | dpkg | nvz: okay |
| 23:12.51 | nvz | yes it loaded in firefox.. so idk what the issue is |
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| 23:13.11 | nvz | th0r: same inet connection on both cases for you? |
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| 23:13.45 | nvz | i cant reproduce the issue on the opi lite using stretch or h3droid |
| 23:14.15 | th0r | nvz, I am going over the same private network...through the same gateway to the internet |
| 23:14.26 | th0r | nvz, I have only one way out of here <smile> |
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| 23:14.48 | th0r | trying to figure out how to change user agent in either firefox or chrome |
| 23:15.19 | nvz | seems like we ruled out dns, cache, browser, os, isp, etc |
| 23:15.40 | nvz | it only happens on x86 based linux |
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| 23:16.00 | th0r | nvz, yup....everything here should be the same. I use 209.244.0.3 for dns on everything, and static private ip addresses. |
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| 23:16.07 | nvz | armhf linux it works |
| 23:16.46 | nvz | if i could reproduce the issue i could try things like user agent strings |
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| 23:17.12 | cef | is ipv6 off? |
| 23:17.41 | nvz | th0r: can you get past it on a machine that doesnt work by telling the site youre running windows or something? |
| 23:18.01 | nvz | hmm.. ipv6.. |
| 23:18.25 | cef | cos if it is and ipv6 is blocked/dropped upstream, it'll take a while to time out. |
| 23:18.49 | nvz | no the issue is vetfriends.com is displaying a down for maint page |
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| 23:19.03 | nvz | but only in x86 linux browsers |
| 23:19.18 | nvz | its not timing out |
| 23:19.26 | Dagger | and vetfriends.com doesn't even have an AAAA record |
| 23:19.39 | Dagger | stop blaming v6 for everything :/ |
| 23:19.59 | nvz | we're at a loss for any explaination |
| 23:20.02 | th0r | nvz, here is the useragent info...http://paste.debian.net/974449/ |
| 23:20.34 | th0r | nvz, still trying to find an easy way to change the useragent |
| 23:20.57 | nvz | th0r: there is user agent switcher addons |
| 23:21.17 | th0r | nvz, yeah...checking into that now |
| 23:21.42 | nvz | i'll try changing to x86 ua on here see if it causes the issue |
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| 23:23.37 | th0r | nvz, changed the useragent in FIREFOX to chrome on windows, and the page loads |
| 23:24.10 | nvz | we can discuss it futher in #debian-offtopic as i think we ruled out it being a debian issue |
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| 23:24.52 | wwwwwwww | how do i close a program when xserver closes? |
| 23:25.01 | wwwwwwww | in my i3 config I have "exec redshift" |
| 23:25.19 | wwwwwwww | but if i quit i3 and then restart it, it creates another instance of redshift even though the other one still persists |
| 23:25.26 | nvz | its apparently a server config issue need to contact the admin |
| 23:26.31 | nvz | wwwwwwww: killall redshift |
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| 23:27.21 | nvz | wwwwwwww: killall -9 redshift to be nice -11 to be a dick about it |
| 23:27.37 | phogg | nvz: No. Do not kill -9! |
| 23:27.57 | phogg | -9 is NOT being nice, -9 is being extremely NOT nice to the point where you can break things if you use it |
| 23:28.20 | nvz | whats wrong with a sigterm |
| 23:28.24 | nvz | phogg: -15? |
| 23:28.41 | wwwwwwww | how do I run killall redshift thought when Xserver is closed? |
| 23:28.45 | wwwwwwww | though* |
| 23:28.51 | nvz | idk what redshift even is |
| 23:29.02 | dax | -9 isn't sigterm, it's sigkill |
| 23:29.08 | wwwwwwww | how do I kill an abitrary process when xserver is closed? |
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| 23:30.39 | phogg | wwwwwwww: You can't directly |
| 23:30.40 | nvz | oh right -15 is sigterm |
| 23:30.53 | phogg | nvz: just always use symbolic signals and you'll be okay |
| 23:31.05 | phogg | nvz: kill -TERM $pid # but term is also the default |
| 23:32.08 | nvz | wwwwwwww: xserver isnt the only way to run commands if you need to make sure redshift whatever that is, is only running one instance either killall before starting it or check to see if its running already before starting it, either way can be done by a simple shell script |
| 23:33.33 | nvz | wwwwwwww: echo "killall redshift; redshift > /usr/local/bin/runredshift"; chmod 777 /usr/local/bin/runredshift |
| 23:34.06 | wwwwwwww | ah thanks |
| 23:34.15 | nvz | wwwwwwww: then use runredshift as the exec command |
| 23:34.15 | nvz | or make a conditional that checks to see if its running |
| 23:34.19 | phogg | wwwwwwww: If you want to be sure only one is running you could launch it with a wrapper that checks to see if it's running before running it again. |
| 23:34.40 | phogg | wwwwwwww: if you want to kill it when X shuts down you have to have a way of knowing when that happens. There are a lot of ways you could detect that. |
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| 23:34.58 | phogg | wwwwwwww: What is redshift? Do you need to run it when X starts (as opposed to before)? |
| 23:35.52 | nvz | the quote was in the wrong place in my example btw |
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| 23:43.54 | jim | now that the spammer got my attention, I'll ask the question... what is different about building debian kernel packages? is it that the scripts in kernel-package made it into the kernel source itself? |
| 23:45.23 | nvz | jim: kernel-package just builds the deb packages which integrates your kernel with the packaging system |
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