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| 00:00.28 | nvz | ozzloy: my suggestion is either let aptitude try fix it or paste the full output from apt on paste.debian.net |
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| 00:00.38 | PhotoJim | the 8.x install image doesn't work on this HP Pavilion machine either. Same error as 9.0.0. |
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| 00:01.03 | nvz | PhotoJim: what errors? |
| 00:01.19 | ozzloy | nvz, i pasted the full output from apt on https://pastebin.com/3VJEVUMn but i'll paste again on paste.debian.net |
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| 00:01.32 | nvz | ozzloy: thats fine |
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| 00:02.06 | PhotoJim | nvz: Grub goes straight to rescue mode. invoking rescue commands results in a failure to mount /root, which must be in the initrd because that's not in the fstab. doing a live rescue boot, chrooting, and regening initrd does nothing to cure it. |
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| 00:03.55 | ozzloy | https://paste.debian.net/974664/ |
| 00:07.01 | nvz | ozzloy: try dpkg --configure -a |
| 00:07.11 | ozzloy | k |
| 00:07.36 | nvz | ozzloy: fwiw paste.debian.net is not only not https so it loads faster but its cleaner interface |
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| 00:09.52 | nvz | this issue seems to be with ejabberd not mariadb |
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| 00:11.58 | ozzloy | https://paste.debian.net/974667/ sudo dpkg --configure -a output |
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| 00:13.02 | ozzloy | nvz, it's both of them. it seems the real issue is with NO_NEW_PRIVILEGES. during an upgrade, mariadb failed and i aborted it thinking i could deal with it after the other upgrades finished |
| 00:13.35 | ozzloy | and now i'm unable to use apt-get {upgrade,remove,bla} |
| 00:14.29 | ozzloy | ejabberd is coming up at the top. maybe it's the real issue, but i'm not sure |
| 00:14.57 | nvz | ozzloy: the huge dependency unconfigured thing is ejabberd the mariadb isnt breaking your package system |
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| 00:19.14 | ozzloy | bugs where i paste the output of apt-get upgrade? |
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| 00:19.47 | nvz | the mariadb thing is what i think of as a clean break.. putting exit 0 at top of its post inst config would make it install and leave the package system in tact |
| 00:19.48 | ozzloy | i'll definitely file a bug if i think i can provide useful info about what happened |
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| 00:21.21 | nvz | ozzloy: in a bug report you want as much info as possible since this is a package broken you want all that info you pasted plus your sources.list should be sufficient to reproduce the issue |
| 00:21.48 | nvz | ozzloy: reportbug would also pull in versions of all packages and dependencies |
| 00:22.10 | zoomm10 | ozzloy: try dpkg --configure -a apt-get clean apt-get install -f |
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| 00:22.22 | nvz | ozzloy: but the source and error is enough reallu in this case |
| 00:23.04 | nvz | zoomm10: we did that already the packages are broken, postinst script errors |
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| 00:23.40 | nvz | apt-get -f install only helps continue an operation if dpkg --configure -a succeeds and it didnt |
| 00:24.40 | nvz | so you have to remove or satisfy the postinst script errors or put exit 0 at the top of them and make them return clean, which doesnt really fix anything but your package db |
| 00:25.20 | nvz | it leaves your packages not fully configured but installllled with a happy dpkg |
| 00:26.00 | Atm0spher1c | can apt find packages that suggest/recommend another package? |
| 00:26.42 | Atm0spher1c | I mean find packages that suggest/recommend <package> |
| 00:29.02 | nvz | there is some reverse depends thing |
| 00:29.07 | nvz | !rdepends |
| 00:29.08 | dpkg | somebody said rdepends was apt-cache rdepends foo; shows you what depends on foo |
| 00:29.22 | nvz | !rsuggests |
| 00:29.42 | nvz | idk try rdpends? |
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| 00:31.08 | nvz | you could do some grepping for it otherwise |
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| 00:32.09 | nvz | apparently package cache is binary now |
| 00:32.31 | Atm0spher1c | nvz, package cache? |
| 00:32.38 | Atm0spher1c | apt-cache? |
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| 00:34.55 | ozzloy | nvz, zoomm10: yay! apt-get upgrade works now! |
| 00:35.21 | ozzloy | can i get some help filing a bug? |
| 00:35.26 | ozzloy | bug(s)? |
| 00:35.35 | ozzloy | not even sure if this is more than one bug |
| 00:35.53 | Atm0spher1c | nvz, yeah rdepends works. Using apt instead of apt-cache will show suggests and recommends |
| 00:35.57 | Atm0spher1c | thank you |
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| 00:37.03 | Atm0spher1c | apt-cache will show them too, but apt will explicitly state which packge is recommended or suggested |
| 00:37.38 | nvz | ozzloy: its two bugs to be certain put ejabberd and mariadb back seperately |
| 00:38.44 | nvz | ozzloy: apt-get install ejabberd if that fails file a bug against it and apt-get --autoremove remove ejabberd and then do the same for mariadb |
| 00:38.58 | ozzloy | kk |
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| 00:40.42 | zoomm10 | ozzlou: download from: https://www.process-one.net/en/ejabberd/downloads/ and run the install |
| 00:41.23 | ozzloy | https://paste.debian.net/974671/ yeah, it does fail |
| 00:42.18 | ozzloy | zoomm10, i might do that, but i'd rather use debian's tools than learn about the install/keep up-to-date process |
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| 00:45.13 | missmbob | !dont break debian |
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| 00:45.13 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, dont break debian is https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
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| 00:50.39 | zoomm10 | ozzloy: run apt-get --force-yes install ejabberd |
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| 00:53.14 | nvz | ozzloy: check the recommended commands for more information about why its failing to start |
| 00:53.59 | nvz | your real problem may be something thats causing all the packages to break |
| 00:54.20 | nvz | I'd also look at the tail end of /var/log/daemon.log |
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| 00:54.54 | leibniz | yooooo is strech good? |
| 00:55.34 | nvz | nope it sucks, use gentoo.. thats what we recommend in #debian |
| 00:56.12 | GrimKriegor | LOL |
| 00:56.15 | nvz | heh |
| 00:56.22 | leibniz | gentoo is hard to install |
| 00:56.29 | leibniz | i would rather use freebsd |
| 00:56.33 | nvz | a dumb question deserves a dumb answer |
| 00:56.41 | GrimKriegor | freebsd has a cuck license |
| 00:56.55 | leibniz | strech is good is not a dumb question |
| 00:57.05 | leibniz | nvz you need to chill |
| 00:57.05 | nvz | yes it is |
| 00:57.09 | nvz | !good |
| 00:57.10 | missmbob | stretch live sucks |
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| 00:57.28 | nvz | !best |
| 00:57.28 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 00:58.00 | nvz | leibniz: im so chill you could store a side of beef in me |
| 00:58.46 | nvz | leibniz: this is #debian if we didnt like debian we wouldnt be here |
| 00:58.46 | leibniz | nah |
| 00:58.46 | ozzloy | https://paste.debian.net/974674/ output of sudo apt-get install ejabberd, then systemctl and journalctl, and finally remove ejabberd |
| 00:58.46 | excelsiora | hi! |
| 00:58.46 | ozzloy | would this be good for a bug report? |
| 00:58.49 | nvz | asking us if its good, nice, or anything else is a really dumb question |
| 00:58.54 | leibniz | i wanted to talk about the positives and negatives to stretch |
| 00:59.07 | leibniz | yet you act like that was a stupid question |
| 00:59.14 | leibniz | because you are an idiot |
| 00:59.15 | nvz | leibniz: as opposed to other debian versions? |
| 00:59.18 | missmbob | !chat |
| 00:59.19 | dpkg | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 00:59.37 | nvz | no it is a stupid question it not specific and its not a support question |
| 00:59.42 | leibniz | positives and negatives to strech |
| 00:59.52 | nvz | we dont do that here |
| 01:00.02 | leibniz | should i have updated from jessie? |
| 01:00.04 | nvz | there is a why debian document online |
| 01:00.45 | excelsiora | yay, support - so I'm trying to checkinstall python - and it's giving me an error about a shared recipe. make install works, but I'm trying to use checkinstall because it's "better" - any suggestions? |
| 01:01.07 | somiaj | excelsiora: what do you mean by checkinstall python? Are you trying to install a different version of python than comes with your system. |
| 01:01.09 | nvz | if you have to ask then the answer is no, because you are happy with jessie and everything works so there is no reason you should upgrade because jessie still gets updates and you have no technical issues |
| 01:01.25 | excelsiora | it's the same error as this guy's: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40434550/compiling-python-with-checkinstall |
| 01:01.34 | somiaj | Desktop systems have a year until jessie security support is disconinued. |
| 01:02.00 | ozzloy | excelsiora, might be a question for #python maybe? |
| 01:02.03 | somiaj | excelsiora: you do not want to install a version of python different than comes with your version of debian. System scripts depend on the version shipped with debian, chaning this could have side effects. |
| 01:02.35 | somiaj | excelsiora: I think there is a way to use a locally compiled python binary (not in $PATH) in a python virtual enviorment if the version that comes with debian is not sufficent for your needs. |
| 01:02.46 | excelsiora | I've gotten some contributions into cpython - so I need to be able to build it and use a locally built copy. |
| 01:03.20 | somiaj | excelsiora: maybe use a chroot, a vm, or set up a python virtual enviroment for this. |
| 01:04.12 | somiaj | excelsiora: but debian system scripts and package scripts depend on python. Changing the default version in debian can have unwanted consequences and is not suggested (thus supported here) |
| 01:04.19 | excelsiora | I'm building 3.7 in a Linode Stretch. If I break it, no big deal. |
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| 01:05.23 | excelsiora | I finally got emacs to build (I'm using it as an IRC client right now. :)) |
| 01:05.58 | ozzloy | excelsiora, good job getting emacs to build! |
| 01:06.13 | ozzloy | and getting patches into cpython |
| 01:06.20 | ozzloy | keep up the good work |
| 01:06.44 | excelsiora | thanks, I want to - but is checkinstall not as good as advertised? |
| 01:07.19 | excelsiora | it's got a sketchy home page, but 3rd parties seem to call it a "best practice" |
| 01:08.08 | excelsiora | One issue is that it doesn't seem to be able to mkdir missing dirs even when it has sudo. |
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| 01:09.22 | somiaj | excelsiora: If I were to use a different version of python I would do something along the lines of https://gist.github.com/jaydenkieran/75b2bbc32b5b70c4fdfb161ecdb6daa2 |
| 01:09.39 | ozzloy | leibniz, fwiw, i think your question sounds like it fits into this channel to me |
| 01:09.49 | somiaj | excelsiora: I may not set the version as global, but that would be more the way I would go as opposed ot using check-isntall |
| 01:09.53 | excelsiora | I was up until 4 AM trying to build and install both emacs and cpython, but checkinstall was only able to install emacs after I used make install (which I think made the required dirs) |
| 01:10.02 | ozzloy | leibniz, maybe #debian-offtopic is the "right" venue |
| 01:10.12 | nvz | ozzloy: correct |
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| 01:10.51 | somiaj | excelsiora: I haven't used check-install, it should work. There is also stow if you want to try some other peice of software to manage locally isntalled software in /usr/local |
| 01:11.07 | zoomm10 | ozzloy: try to change the "Environment=HOME=/var/lib/ejabberd " to "#Environment=HOME=/var/lib/ejabberdin" in /usr/lib/systemd/system/ejabberd.service |
| 01:11.10 | Colloguy | when dual-booting, should there be a common /boot for all OSes? |
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| 01:11.42 | somiaj | excelsiora: So I can't really say what is needed to get check-install working. Someone else maybe able to help with that. Though as mentioned I would not suggest installing python that way, use a python virtual enviroment instead. |
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| 01:12.20 | somiaj | Colloguy: you will most likely want a /boot for each linux based os you boot to. |
| 01:12.21 | ozzloy | zoomm10, so comment out the environment line? |
| 01:12.31 | somiaj | Colloguy: You can use a common efi partition if using efi boot though. |
| 01:12.45 | excelsiora | ok, well now that I think of it, the dev guide seemed to say not to install it... |
| 01:13.17 | zoomm10 | yes ozzloy, just try |
| 01:13.18 | ozzloy | zoomm10, that file doesn't exist |
| 01:13.24 | nvz | Colloguy: can be, doesnt have to be. dont even need a /boot. there are pros and cons |
| 01:14.10 | zoomm10 | maybe the file exist on /etc/systemd/system/ejabberd.service |
| 01:14.25 | ozzloy | should i attempt an install, have it fail, edit the file (which will exist at that point?) and then retry install? |
| 01:14.27 | nvz | Colloguy: the common boot would allow distros to be aware of one another for ubdating the bootloader but at the same time they wouldnt respect one another's files |
| 01:14.32 | ozzloy | oh |
| 01:14.37 | ozzloy | i'll check there |
| 01:14.56 | nvz | Colloguy: and if they had different versions of the bootloader that could cause compatibility issues. |
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| 01:15.27 | excelsiora | ok, maybe I really messed up, can I uninstall what I make installed? |
| 01:15.43 | ozzloy | zoomm10, /etc/systemd/system/ejabberd.service is a symlink to /dev/null |
| 01:15.43 | excelsiora | Or do I need to blow away my server and start over? |
| 01:16.07 | Colloguy | nvz: I've actually naively had a shared /boot before but the one OS made it so the others didn't boot, I remember running autoremove. |
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| 01:16.09 | nvz | Colloguy: you could do a master /boot that chainloads the /boot on each rootfs |
| 01:16.09 | ozzloy | take a deep breath before blowing away your server |
| 01:16.12 | excelsiora | I did it as a sudoer user... |
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| 01:16.38 | somiaj | excelsiora: some software comes with a 'make uninstall' script to uninstall stuff, not all. check-install is supose to help with this, though you could also look into stow if check-install doesn't seem to work for you |
| 01:16.46 | ozzloy | nvz, i'm installing reportbug to report the bug |
| 01:16.55 | Colloguy | nvz: that sounds kinda ugly and inefficient? |
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| 01:17.32 | nvz | ozzloy: its not required it just helps compile a report, you can just email submit@bugs.debian.org with proper header |
| 01:17.42 | Colloguy | nvz: nvm, misunderstood what you meant. |
| 01:18.04 | excelsiora | somiaj: but checkinstall never worked for Python... :( |
| 01:18.25 | excelsiora | which is why I wonder if I should have even bothered... |
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| 01:19.10 | nvz | Colloguy: multibooting linux is as you noticed prone to issues of this nature having a boot partiton that chainloads the /boot of each linux distro keeps them all happily seperate without need to update the real bootloader because each os updates its own |
| 01:19.47 | somiaj | excelsiora: again use pythong virtual enviorment |
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| 01:20.11 | somiaj | Colloguy: or just use efi boot and your firmwars boot choice option can serve as your boot manager |
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| 01:21.19 | excelsiora | somiaj: I agree. I'll do so. but now I need to uninstall... :/ |
| 01:22.14 | excelsiora | make uninstall doesn't do it... |
| 01:22.31 | excelsiora | do I need to immediately sudo apt-get install python after doing the uninstall? |
| 01:22.53 | debuser | I want to build a debian live image based on my dotfiles, did anyone try this please? |
| 01:23.03 | excelsiora | (anyone familiar with installing a haskell dev environment btw?) |
| 01:23.08 | Colloguy | nvz: huh, I'm more interested in the /boot chainloading. Thanks for the idea. |
| 01:23.27 | excelsiora | or should I just do sudo apt-get install python before doing anything else? |
| 01:25.57 | nvz | debuser: yes and someone made something called bootcd to do it |
| 01:26.02 | nvz | !bootcd |
| 01:26.17 | nvz | ,info bootcd |
| 01:26.18 | judd | Package bootcd (utils, extra) in stretch/amd64: run your system from cd without need for disks. Version: 5.05; Size: 96.1k; Installed: 426k |
| 01:26.22 | excelsiora | python is 2.7, system python still |
| 01:26.32 | excelsiora | python3 is the 3.7 that I built |
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| 01:26.51 | excelsiora | what in debian stretch uses python3? |
| 01:27.04 | excelsiora | (stuff shouldn't break, but still) |
| 01:27.16 | ozzloy | nvz, does "header" mean "subject line"? |
| 01:27.54 | missmbob | excelsiora: python3 is 3.5.3 |
| 01:27.56 | nvz | ozzloy: no it requires a specific header the bts recognizes which includes package name, version, severity, etc |
| 01:28.15 | excelsiora | missmbob: yes, so how do I restore? |
| 01:28.23 | ozzloy | nvz, can i use gmail to write such a message? |
| 01:28.28 | excelsiora | (feeling kinda dumb) |
| 01:28.37 | missmbob | excelsiora: restore? heh. wipe your vps |
| 01:28.59 | ozzloy | perhaps there's a bugreport webpage that will tell me what to do |
| 01:28.59 | excelsiora | :/ .... ok, but I want to try to fix this first |
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| 01:29.35 | nvz | ozzloy: bugs.debian.org |
| 01:29.36 | excelsiora | good practice, right? how do I script a vps setup, anyways? |
| 01:29.42 | zoomm10 | ozzloy: check this: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-ejabberd-xmpp-server-on-ubuntu |
| 01:29.57 | nvz | ozzloy: explainations of headers and such are on the main page |
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| 01:30.20 | missmbob | excelsiora: linode lets your backup snapshots. just take a snapshot before you're going to do something weird |
| 01:30.45 | excelsiora | nah - this isn't prod, just me learning. |
| 01:31.10 | debuser | Thanks nvz and judd! |
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| 01:31.34 | nvz | zoomm10: you do realize the issue here was not installing these packages but fixing the package system and learning to use debian, and you keep giving bad advice that could lead to thing we wont support here right? |
| 01:32.02 | excelsiora | *moves fast and breaks his own things so he can be more productive at work* |
| 01:32.44 | ozzloy | zoomm10, my goal right now is not to install ejabberd |
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| 01:32.57 | excelsiora | so... scripting a vps setup? |
| 01:32.58 | ozzloy | zoomm10, but i might check that later |
| 01:33.03 | excelsiora | just a bash script? |
| 01:33.59 | zoomm10 | i read the error and says: Package ejabberd is not configured yet. |
| 01:40.16 | ozzloy | zoomm10, thanks! it's true ejabberd isn't configured yet. i think that's related to the NO_NEW_PRIVILEGES thing in the error output, and possibly is related to mariadb failing with the same error |
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| 01:40.32 | ozzloy | zoomm10, but at the moment, i'm not pursuing the installation of ejabberd |
| 01:43.51 | zoomm10 | ozzloy: dpkg: error processing package mariadb-server-10.1 (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ejabberd-contrib: |
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| 01:44.54 | nvz | zoomm10: please stop trolling |
| 01:45.42 | zoomm10 | nvz: i am explaining the error? you dont know what is trolling... |
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| 01:47.04 | nvz | zoomm10: 1) youre not explaining anything, 2) both myself and ozzloy pointed out to you that the issue is resolved. this user did not want mariadb to begin with, just wanted the package system back to functioning |
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| 02:01.40 | uxfi | Does Debian ship with Hexchat or Xchat? |
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| 02:02.10 | tx | yes |
| 02:02.25 | tx | (both) |
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| 02:02.38 | tx | though it looks like since stretch |
| 02:02.42 | tx | xchat is out of the running. |
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| 02:06.58 | dvs | ,v hexchat |
| 02:06.59 | judd | Package: hexchat on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 2.10.0-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.10.1-1+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 2.12.4-3~bpo8+1; buster: 2.12.4-3; sid: 2.12.4-3; stretch: 2.12.4-3 |
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| 02:11.04 | cef | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 02:11.05 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; jessie-backports: 4.9+80~bpo8+1; sid: 4.9+80; stretch: 4.9+80; buster: 4.9+80 |
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| 02:16.04 | lezsakdomi | Hi! In what stage is the locale set by default on debian? |
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| 02:16.56 | lezsakdomi | If I set it in /etc/profile.d, would that override every LC_*? |
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| 02:23.21 | default | Is it time to upgrade to testing yet, or wait still? |
| 02:23.37 | dvs | upgrade to testing? |
| 02:23.46 | default | From Stable. |
| 02:24.18 | dvs | There's never a "good" time. Testing is (almost) always in a state of flux |
| 02:25.15 | default | Right. I guess stable is okay, but the packages source code was found in the basement of the pyramids. |
| 02:25.39 | dvs | Not lately |
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| 02:27.24 | default | I heard that stable packages won't be upgraded until Buster, except for security fixes. |
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| 02:29.58 | dvs | default, that's mostly true, unless it has been backported. |
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| 02:31.53 | default | So, if Buser is 2-3 years away, that's some mighty stale packages. So that's why I'm thinking of going testing. |
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| 02:33.08 | dvs | why? are there any current packages that don't work? |
| 02:33.51 | default | Well, rsync has a 'serious' bug. |
| 02:34.38 | dvs | if the bug is serious enough, it might be fixed in a minor update. |
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| 02:36.45 | default | Right. But I am thinking that testing might mean fresher packages, but not re-install-your-system bugs like in unstable. |
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| 02:37.50 | dvs | default, those types of problem still could happen in testing but they are much less likely to happen. |
| 02:38.53 | default | Understood. Just mulling it over. |
| 02:39.48 | dvs | I'd much rather have a working system than have the latest and "greatest" versions of packages. |
| 02:40.22 | default | BTW, I do try to be obsessive about backing up my data. You can always re-install, but you can't buy new data at any price. |
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| 02:41.25 | An0n_L1te | Hiya |
| 02:42.03 | default | BTW, where is everyone? 1,613 people here and 2 people talking. |
| 02:42.20 | An0n_L1te | like all the irc channels I'm in xD |
| 02:42.41 | default | What is xD? |
| 02:42.47 | An0n_L1te | Laughing face |
| 02:42.58 | default | Oh, Okay. |
| 02:43.00 | An0n_L1te | remember the old bricks where you didn't have smilies? |
| 02:43.18 | default | Not really. |
| 02:43.29 | An0n_L1te | Ah, good ol' days |
| 02:44.16 | default | Usually on #Debian there are several discussion going on at the same time. |
| 02:44.20 | An0n_L1te | default, what IRC client do you use? |
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| 02:44.57 | default | An0n_l1te: hexchat. |
| 02:45.48 | An0n_L1te | Yea, I was just testing security on that earlier |
| 02:46.33 | default | Did it pass? |
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| 02:46.44 | An0n_L1te | no |
| 02:46.44 | An0n_L1te | read pm |
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| 02:51.44 | An0n_L1te | How long have you been using linux default? |
| 02:52.03 | An0n_L1te | kryptoz, I would suggest a proxy bro |
| 02:52.11 | default | Since the 1990s. |
| 02:52.38 | An0n_L1te | A while longer than me then :P |
| 02:53.09 | An0n_L1te | I was born 2000 so yea xD |
| 02:53.34 | kryptoz | An0n_L1te: a proxy ? for ldap search? |
| 02:53.46 | default | Youngster. :) |
| 02:53.51 | kryptoz | by the way, i figured my issue yesterday itself :) |
| 02:54.55 | An0n_L1te | It's when you joined it shows your ip |
| 02:55.21 | Atm0spher1c | An0n_L1te, what about hexchat? |
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| 02:56.10 | default | Is tehr a setting in hexchat that can mask your ip? |
| 02:56.16 | An0n_L1te | Yes |
| 02:56.46 | hanasaki | how do you determine what kernel module is driving the bluetooth and wifi? |
| 02:56.46 | default | Buy a vowel? |
| 02:56.50 | An0n_L1te | Settings -> Preferences -> Network Setup -> Proxy |
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| 02:57.12 | An0n_L1te | 173.199.70.45 port 29282 is the free one I'm using |
| 02:58.00 | An0n_L1te | Be back in a sec guys |
| 02:58.13 | default | An0n_l1te: suggested settings? |
| 02:58.54 | Atm0spher1c | hmm, doesnt seem like that's the proxy he's using |
| 02:59.34 | Atm0spher1c | default, ignore his bs |
| 02:59.50 | Atm0spher1c | get your own proxy |
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| 03:00.49 | default | Atm0spher1c: Okay, I'll check into that. |
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| 03:04.57 | An0n_L1te | back |
| 03:06.01 | An0n_L1te | default you still here? |
| 03:06.09 | default | Yes. |
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| 03:07.35 | An0n_L1te | Oh just realised you can run local python scripts in hexchat |
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| 03:14.23 | An0n_L1te | Anyone actually on? |
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| 03:15.29 | solrize | hi i booted stretch from a live iso install and tried rather hard to bring up my intel centrino wifi 2200N card which is supposed to be supported by iwlwifi, but iwconfig never found the card. any idea? |
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| 03:16.35 | solrize | i did all the stuff on the iwlwifi wiki page |
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| 03:16.52 | excelsiora | hi |
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| 03:17.54 | An0n_L1te | Hiya |
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| 03:20.16 | excelsiora | hmmm... if you build python from source you can do `make altinstall` and it's supposed to not overwrite an earlier install... |
| 03:20.26 | An0n_L1te | lesson learnt, hexchat does not like time.sleep |
| 03:20.43 | An0n_L1te | I've got all python's installed |
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| 03:26.02 | Atm0spher1c | solrize, any logs to post? |
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| 03:26.50 | Atm0spher1c | solrize, is iwlwifi installed on the liive iso? also i've heard there are some bugs with the live iso |
| 03:27.08 | Atm0spher1c | solrize, try just installing from an install iso (not live iso) |
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| 03:28.59 | An0n_L1te | do you mean iwlist? |
| 03:29.39 | Atm0spher1c | no dude |
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| 03:31.15 | solrize_ | Atm0spher1c, crud, i got disconnected after you asked if i had any logs to post, so if you said anything after that, please repeat. my reply was: |
| 03:31.18 | solrize_ | can't get to them now, but there was nothing useful in dmesg. it just showed the name of the device when i ran modprobe. modinfo showed the driver info though |
| 03:31.25 | solrize_ | machine is a thinkpad x230. wonder if i can swap out the wifi card for a different one that works better |
| 03:31.48 | Atm0spher1c | solrize_, is iwlwifi installed on the liive iso? also i've heard there are some bugs with the live iso? |
| 03:31.56 | Atm0spher1c | solrize, try just installing from an install iso (not live iso) |
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| 03:33.06 | flingtoad | Atm0sher1c, Your best bet for wifi on the install iso is to use the non-free iso: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ . I'm sure there are bugs on the install iso, but without knowing which one concerns your there's not much more to say about it. |
| 03:33.22 | solrize_ | hmm, i dunno about bugs. i had to apt-get install iwlwifi because it includes non-free driver blobs. can't install from iso to hard disk right now, because don't want to wipe my drive. i have another drive that's not here that i was planning to swap in |
| 03:33.57 | Atm0spher1c | flingtoad, wtf man, read it. |
| 03:34.43 | solrize_ | well might try later after swapping in the new drive |
| 03:34.44 | flingtoad | Atm0spheri1c, I just got here, man. I've only seen your previous 2 messages. |
| 03:34.55 | solrize_ | flingtoad yeah we've somewhat been over that |
| 03:35.17 | Atm0spher1c | solrize_, well was it installed or not? debian (most distros) work great these days. I would think especially on that hardware of yours |
| 03:35.45 | Atm0spher1c | flingtoad, my messages were responses to another user |
| 03:36.01 | solrize_ | no it wasn't installed, the debian distros don't include anything non-free iirc. i'm cool with that and i added non-free to apt-sources to do the iwlwifi install andsaw it actually downloaded stuff |
| 03:36.11 | flingtoad | Atm0spher1c, I've said all I have to say. If it doesn't help, ignore it. |
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| 03:37.20 | solrize_ | flingtoad, thanks for the good intentions but yeah, it didn't help |
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| 03:38.41 | somiaj | excelsiora: the make install should have installed things in /usr/local, if you just delete the files in /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/share, etc from python, the $PATH should pick up the system one again. |
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| 03:39.11 | solrize_ | i also bought a usb wifi dongle that supposedly works with linux, and it connects but loses connection almost instantly |
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| 03:40.08 | Atm0spher1c | solrize_, which one |
| 03:40.28 | Atm0spher1c | solrize_, check - lsusb, lspci for more info |
| 03:40.43 | solrize_ | didn't find anything from lspci |
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| 03:41.18 | solrize_ | usb dongle is this one: https://www.adafruit.com/product/814 |
| 03:41.21 | Atm0spher1c | you sure its supported? |
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| 03:42.33 | solrize_ | the dongle? well it kind of works. i'm not too worried thouugh, it's just a stopgap, i hoped to get the intel card working |
| 03:43.02 | Atm0spher1c | solrize_, install firmware-realtek from non-free i think |
| 03:43.32 | solrize_ | hmm might try that. right now running fedora, would have to boot this laptop back into the live debian install |
| 03:43.32 | somiaj | solrize_: what intel card? |
| 03:43.42 | solrize_ | somiaj, centrino 2200N |
| 03:43.58 | somiaj | solrize_: and it works just fine in fedora? Is this on stretch or jessie |
| 03:44.03 | Atm0spher1c | solrize_, you can - apt-cache search RTl8192 - or use - apt search |
| 03:44.40 | Atm0spher1c | solrize_, which is for that rpi wifi usb device |
| 03:44.46 | solrize_ | somiaj it works in fedora (old version) but crashes occasionally. there's a redhat bugzilla item claiming the crashes are fixed. the prob i was having was on stretch |
| 03:44.57 | solrize_ | Atm0spher1c, yeah i might try the dongle if it comes to that |
| 03:45.02 | somiaj | solrize_: this intel wifi? |
| 03:45.15 | solrize_ | somiaj, yeah the intel wifi is Intel(R) Centrino(R) Wireless-N 2200 BGN, REV=0x104 |
| 03:45.26 | somiaj | solrize_: you are most likley missing the package firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 03:45.35 | solrize_ | somiaj, i installed that from non-free |
| 03:45.38 | somiaj | solrize_: debian ships non-free firmware seperate from the kernel. |
| 03:45.41 | solrize_ | and did the stuff on the wiki page |
| 03:45.43 | Atm0spher1c | somiaj, he was using live iso |
| 03:45.49 | solrize_ | yep, that's why i had to install from non-free |
| 03:46.02 | somiaj | solrize_: did you reboot/reload the kernel module after installing that |
| 03:46.12 | somiaj | if from a live system, you woul dhave to modprobe -r iwlwifi then modprobe iwlwifi |
| 03:46.13 | solrize_ | reloaded with modprobe -r / modprobe |
| 03:46.23 | somiaj | and ip a didn't see the device after that? |
| 03:46.30 | solrize_ | don't see a way to reboot the live iso while keeping the drivers instact |
| 03:46.31 | somiaj | what did dmesg say, did ti complain about missing firmwre? |
| 03:46.46 | solrize_ | dmesg just said the device name, didn't seem to install the fw |
| 03:47.04 | somiaj | it should have said if it needed firmware and if itw as loaded. |
| 03:47.21 | solrize_ | didn't |
| 03:47.44 | solrize_ | i also tried installing the ipw drivers and that didn't help |
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| 03:50.11 | hanasaki | how do you enable the onscreen popup keyboard ? |
| 03:50.18 | solrize_ | i have to take the laptop apart to change out the disk but will do that when i get some time |
| 03:51.04 | Rusty1_ | solrize_: what does, as root, rfkill list wifi return? |
| 03:51.15 | solrize_ | Rusty1_, i didn't try that |
| 03:52.01 | Atm0spher1c | hanasaki, I'm not exactly sure. But for on screen keyboard I used florence |
| 03:52.03 | solrize_ | i could boot up the live iso again and try |
| 03:52.32 | Atm0spher1c | hanasaki, it seems nice, light weight. |
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| 03:54.08 | hanasaki | Atm0spher1c: this is for a laptop with touch screen. want it to pop up so can onscreen type |
| 03:54.08 | Rusty1_ | solrize_: if it shows hardblocked, then a physical switch, fn-key or bios setting , if softblocked, try: rfkill unblock all |
| 03:54.27 | solrize_ | it's not hardblocked, it works (somewhat) under fedora |
| 03:54.45 | solrize_ | will try rfkill after rebooting, hmm |
| 03:55.16 | hanasaki | Atm0spher1c: Florence version 0.6.3 Segmentation fault |
| 03:55.56 | solrize_ | oops |
| 03:55.58 | hanasaki | how do you get deb9 installed on a secure boot system so it can dual boot into windows 10 also |
| 03:56.00 | Atm0spher1c | hanasaki, it should pop up. I don't know if it'll work with touch screen, not using it that way |
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| 03:56.19 | Atm0spher1c | hanasaki, it doesn't work for you? or are you showing me a bug report? |
| 03:56.53 | hanasaki | Atm0spher1c: doesn't work for me |
| 03:56.55 | Atm0spher1c | hanasaki, do research, not really a one liner :D |
| 03:57.21 | Atm0spher1c | hanasaki, damn, works for me on unstable. |
| 03:57.36 | Rusty1_ | solrize_: the general rule is , iwconfig , see if the inteface shown, ifconfig, see if up or down , and i guess lsmod to see if the driver is loaded , not sure if you actually need a firmware package if a recent kernel |
| 03:58.11 | solrize_ | iwconfig -> not shown, ifconfig - doesn't find it iirc, lsmod -> found iwlwifi driver but no card seen |
| 03:58.19 | hanasaki | so I guess the quesiton is with debian laopt stuff isntalled... how do you get the onscreen keyboard to popup |
| 03:58.20 | solrize_ | i'm pretty sure the wifi card needs fw |
| 03:58.54 | mrr0butt | solrize_ and ifconfig -a |
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| 03:59.17 | unborn | hi guys, where I can download jessie version? |
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| 04:01.05 | An0n_L1te | Does anyone know any big chanells? |
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| 04:01.14 | hanasaki | Atm0spher1c: it's the universal access . resolved |
| 04:01.45 | steven0liu | same request |
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| 04:04.45 | unborn | found it |
| 04:05.35 | mrr0butt | solrize_ you could use one of these images https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 04:06.25 | solrize_ | mrr0butt, yeah i installed the iwlwifi driver from non-free, so i don't think the non-free cd will help much. lemme look at the file list though, just a min |
| 04:07.04 | solrize_ | oh yowp it's a big iso |
| 04:08.05 | solrize_ | i see firmware-iwlwifi_20161130-3_all.deb which is the thing i installed |
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| 04:09.09 | solrize_ | so i already have those files, the sys is just not finding them or they're the wrong ones |
| 04:09.24 | somiaj | solrize_: can you get the pciid of that card |
| 04:10.08 | solrize_ | 03:00.0 is that the pciid? |
| 04:10.18 | somiaj | nope |
| 04:10.26 | solrize_ | hmm how do i find it? |
| 04:10.39 | somiaj | it will be a number like 8086:0890 |
| 04:10.42 | somiaj | lspci -nn |
| 04:10.55 | solrize_ | ah thanks |
| 04:11.06 | solrize_ | 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2200 [8086:0891] (rev c4) |
| 04:11.37 | mrr0butt | ls /sys/class/net/ |
| 04:11.51 | somiaj | that pciid is supported by the 3.16 kernel in jessie so it should also be supported by the kernel in stretch. |
| 04:12.34 | solrize_ | mrr0butt, /sys/class/net/wlp3s0 as a bunch of files, what am i looking for? this is in fedora |
| 04:13.03 | somiaj | solrize_: it should work provided you have the firmware installed. If the kernel is not seeing it and loading the right firmware, could the hardware be to blame? |
| 04:13.18 | solrize_ | somiaj, i dunno, the hardware more or less works under fedora |
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| 04:13.53 | Gshock | ??? |
| 04:14.08 | Rusty1_ | and the fedora kernel is? |
| 04:14.13 | solrize_ | ollllld |
| 04:14.15 | solrize_ | lemme ceck |
| 04:14.16 | solrize_ | check |
| 04:14.24 | Gshock | any one speaks english? |
| 04:14.29 | Gshock | need help |
| 04:14.31 | solrize_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:14.36 | solrize_ | hi Gshock what is your question? |
| 04:14.48 | Gshock | how do i install upd pel to my debian |
| 04:14.52 | Gshock | ive tried everyting |
| 04:14.56 | somiaj | solrize_: anyways, I don't see why it is not working. I doubt it is a regression. Maybe someting on the live system. But everything I see says that card should be supported in debian stretch. |
| 04:14.56 | Gshock | still not working |
| 04:15.03 | Atm0spher1c | no engles in this channel |
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| 04:15.16 | somiaj | what is udp pel? |
| 04:15.23 | Gshock | udp perl |
| 04:15.37 | solrize_ | somiaj hmm thanks. i might try jesse but yeah if the live system is suspect then i should try an iso |
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| 04:15.52 | solrize_ | wonder if i can install to an external hard disk? |
| 04:16.10 | solrize_ | i.e. from iso on one usb stick, to file system on another usb drive (hdd in this case) |
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| 04:16.22 | solrize_ | actually could put a usb adapter around an ssd |
| 04:16.28 | Gshock | solrize_ |
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| 04:16.31 | Gshock | can u help me out |
| 04:16.41 | solrize_ | udp perl? never heard of |
| 04:17.01 | Gshock | botnets for short |
| 04:17.02 | somiaj | solrize_: usb2 and even usb3 speeds are slow compared to normal hard drives which can cause issues. |
| 04:17.24 | somiaj | Gshock: please don't message people, keep conversation in the channel. |
| 04:17.26 | solrize_ | somiaj, hmm like flakiness? for testing purposes i don't mind if it's merely slow |
| 04:17.51 | somiaj | solrize_: it is just slow, and if you say had to swap or something, well the usb connenction can cause a bottle neck. |
| 04:17.55 | somiaj | just to be aware of. |
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| 04:18.09 | solrize_ | oh that's no prob, machine has 12gb of ram so shouldn't have to swap |
| 04:18.16 | solrize_ | just want to boot it and see if the wifi works |
| 04:18.29 | solrize_ | thanks this sounds like a plan |
| 04:18.47 | solrize_ | in fact hmm, i have another usb flash stick here... of course that will suck pretty bad compared to even a hdd |
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| 04:24.55 | mrr0butt | i had also issues connecting wlan over network-manager in stretch, nm removed the iface immediately on auth with ap if booted without "net.ifnames=0" boot parameter |
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| 04:27.12 | solrize_ | hmm yeah i didn't get far enough to use n-m |
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| 04:29.36 | mrr0butt | you should also run "depmod -a" as root after installing firmware |
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| 04:33.50 | mrr0butt | and reload the kernel module "modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi" |
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| 04:36.27 | hanasaki | is there a good discussion on how secure each of the disk encryptions are ? xts plan ecb cbc eslv |
| 04:36.29 | hanasaki | ? |
| 04:38.13 | iodev | hanasaki: the question is how secure are you |
| 04:38.23 | hanasaki | somewhat LOL |
| 04:38.24 | hanasaki | why |
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| 04:39.07 | iodev | hanasaki: well, it's pointless to disk encrypt if you aren't careful (if you aren't yourself secure) |
| 04:39.19 | hanasaki | true |
| 04:39.41 | hanasaki | for now... just want to know which of the algorthims are most to least secure |
| 04:41.50 | iodev | hanasaki: hmm, they all will be secure as long as you do AES |
| 04:41.57 | iodev | so the question is which one is the fastest |
| 04:42.28 | hanasaki | iodev: none of them offer AES in deb9 installer |
| 04:42.46 | iodev | well, xts is a method to do aes |
| 04:42.54 | hanasaki | ok.. they do |
| 04:42.55 | hanasaki | found that |
| 04:43.08 | iodev | cbc also, but don't use chain-block-chain (cbc) |
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| 04:43.16 | hanasaki | so xtsplain vs cbcessivsha256? |
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| 04:43.30 | iodev | hanasaki: just use xtsplain |
| 04:43.52 | iodev | really as long as aes it's fine, these are just methods to process the blocks of data hanasaki |
| 04:44.03 | iodev | you want the fastest, so that'll encrypt/decrypt quickly |
| 04:44.52 | iodev | hanasaki: if you need more detailed info, I suggest you ask in ##security |
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| 04:45.01 | iodev | (they specialize in this kind of stuff) |
| 04:45.46 | tomreyn | xts-plain should not be used for devices >= 2TB |
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| 04:46.04 | tomreyn | unless it's not plain64, but i dont think it is. |
| 04:46.34 | tomreyn | if >= 2TB, either consider reducing size or prefer cbc-essiv |
| 04:47.05 | tomreyn | this really should be discussed on the installer :-/ |
| 04:47.51 | hanasaki | what happens at 2TB and what to switch too? |
| 04:48.30 | iodev | hanasaki: at 2TB you switch from xtsplain to cbcessivsha256 |
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| 04:48.54 | hanasaki | iodev: thanks... why is htat? |
| 04:49.17 | hanasaki | more secure? that much data won't there be checksum ambiguity? |
| 04:50.04 | iodev | hanasaki: no, it's not more secure |
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| 04:50.27 | iodev | AES is AES, CBC/XTS is the way you load the data and split it into chunks, it's got nothing to do with that |
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| 04:51.25 | tomreyn | Using 'plain' IV generator for dm-crypt is problematic for large devices - plain is only 32 bits, so for large devices (>2TB) the plain IV restarts and opens device to watermarking attack (two sectors shares the same IV, you can manipulate with the second if you know content of the first). |
| 04:51.26 | iodev | (you can't encrypt the disk at once, you need to split it into chunks of some size, let's say 10 MB and encrypt that) |
| 04:53.03 | hanasaki | thank you |
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| 04:53.26 | hanasaki | does resizing a partition with gparted mess it up if it is encrypted? |
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| 04:55.50 | tomreyn | unless you resize the crypto layer, too, yes |
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| 04:56.30 | iodev | hmm, no idea, I have only used android disk encryption till now :D |
| 04:56.39 | tomreyn | gparted is a partitioning utility, it does not handle the device mapper device layer |
| 04:56.57 | tomreyn | ...which dymcrypt-luks operates on |
| 04:57.20 | tomreyn | *dmcrypt-luks |
| 04:58.46 | hanasaki | iodev: doesn't that come turned on by default since 7? |
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| 04:59.43 | iodev | hanasaki: since 7? I wouldn't know with my jellyphone :D |
| 05:00.01 | iodev | is using android 4 |
| 05:00.03 | hanasaki | iodev: fun. did jelly have disk encryption? |
| 05:00.20 | iodev | hanasaki: yeah, jellybean has it, at least my samsung does |
| 05:00.26 | hanasaki | cool |
| 05:01.01 | hanasaki | so far.. biggest issues I have is the bluetooth :( dev shows up .. doesn't work |
| 05:01.11 | iodev | pointless, my device is stagefright vulnerable :( |
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| 05:01.20 | hanasaki | oh? |
| 05:01.29 | iodev | hanasaki: well, tried with bluetoothctl? |
| 05:01.45 | iodev | type in: power on, then scan on, then agent on |
| 05:02.01 | hanasaki | nope.. its all new to me... |
| 05:02.28 | iodev | hanasaki: well, open a terminal (don't worry, you don't need root) |
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| 05:02.40 | hiya | iodev, Since when did you start to love Linux? |
| 05:02.43 | iodev | and type in "bluetoothctl" (it opens a command line for bluetooth) |
| 05:02.53 | iodev | hiya: long story short, eee pc 701 :D |
| 05:03.07 | hanasaki | how do I get it to show advertising devices ready to pair? |
| 05:03.14 | iodev | and planet penguin racer (former version of extreme tux racer) |
| 05:03.18 | hiya | iodev, What does it mean? I have no idea |
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| 05:03.34 | iodev | hanasaki: you're on debian! do you have the non-free firmware? |
| 05:03.49 | hanasaki | how do I check and why do I need it? |
| 05:04.23 | iodev | hanasaki: you need it because hardware is often proprietary (especially bluetooth and wifi) |
| 05:04.34 | iodev | hiya: it's a netbook model |
| 05:04.50 | hanasaki | CHG] Controller 24:0A:64:6E:FC:05 Discovering: yes |
| 05:04.57 | iodev | hiya: that was a 4 GB hdd PC with Xandros linux, it got me started on linux |
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| 05:05.40 | hiya | iodev, awesome then |
| 05:05.52 | iodev | I remember first learning mount command, for usb drives (for some reason my dad broke udev, so he taught me to mount :D), then also sudo and su and apt-get :D |
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| 05:06.30 | ozzloy | nvz, well i got pulled away for a bit, but i'm back now. i made a bug report: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=867135 hopefully it's not a dupe or not-a-bug. thanks for the help! |
| 05:06.33 | iodev | hiya: the PC came with an easy UI, that I disliked, so KDE 3.5 (Advanced mode) had to be enabled |
| 05:06.51 | ozzloy | working on a similar bug for mariadb right now |
| 05:06.54 | iodev | hanasaki: it won't discover anything if it needs firmware |
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| 05:07.17 | hiya | iodev, I see. It is good enough |
| 05:07.38 | iodev | hanasaki: what is your bluetooth adapter model? |
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| 05:08.07 | hanasaki | iodev: assuming it does have the firmware needed... how do you get it to list what is available? |
| 05:08.44 | hanasaki | and.. where do I get the firmware ? |
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| 05:09.01 | iodev | hanasaki: well, let me explain, you get it from apt-get (from debian repo) |
| 05:09.05 | hanasaki | BCM20702A1 |
| 05:09.29 | iodev | but, it's not open source, not GPL, not FOSS, you will need to enable non-free on debian first (google/duckduckgo it) hanasaki |
| 05:10.21 | hanasaki | non-free <=already have this |
| 05:10.29 | freenoodle | Does anyone know where I can get the release version of Firefox for stretch? mozilla.debian.net offers no more files, and the official archives have only firefox-esr for stretch and no backport of firefox |
| 05:11.03 | hanasaki | firmware-b43-installer |
| 05:11.13 | iodev | hanasaki: okay, that should be it |
| 05:11.29 | iodev | hanasaki: also get firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 05:13.28 | hanasaki | iodev: thanks. missed that.. what is it |
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| 05:14.19 | iodev | hanasaki: a whole pack |
| 05:14.23 | iodev | of firmwares |
| 05:14.34 | iodev | most distros have it by default |
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| 05:16.20 | iodev | hanasaki: you rebooted? |
| 05:16.22 | hanasaki | oops. back |
| 05:16.24 | hanasaki | ya |
| 05:16.35 | iodev | hanasaki: try again to scan for devices |
| 05:16.52 | hanasaki | Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Patch brcm/BCM20702A1-13d3-3404.hcd not found |
| 05:18.08 | iodev | hanasaki: seems like that one is not included |
| 05:18.36 | iodev | hanasaki: look here, follow these instructions: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/359979/broadcom-bcm4352-bluetooth-does-not-connect |
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| 05:20.52 | iodev | hanasaki: hope this helps ya |
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| 05:22.11 | hanasaki | iodev: if you scroll down.. it shows modprobe: FATAL: Module broadcom-sta-dkms not found in |
| 05:22.36 | iodev | hanasaki: not the user question, the answer! |
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| 05:23.11 | iodev | hanasaki: this one! https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/360609 |
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| 05:25.54 | hanasaki | should scan on dump a list of whatever is advertising? |
| 05:26.51 | iodev | hanasaki: you should run the 4 commands: http://dpaste.com/0JHXHD6 |
| 05:27.01 | iodev | (I copied them for you to see more clearly) |
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| 05:27.23 | hanasaki | iodev: done |
| 05:27.33 | ozzloy | nvz, here's the mariadb one, in case you're interested: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=867137 |
| 05:27.35 | iodev | hanasaki: now reboot |
| 05:27.41 | iodev | (so that it loads) |
| 05:27.51 | hanasaki | I did a modprobe |
| 05:27.56 | iodev | ahh, yes, sorry |
| 05:28.07 | iodev | now do a dmesg | grep blue |
| 05:28.21 | iodev | and try to see if it loaded properly |
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| 05:28.59 | hanasaki | how ? |
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| 05:32.20 | leibniz | yo can someone help me with installing php7 on stretch |
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| 05:32.58 | Colloguy` | In stretch, I've maxed the xfce4 Mouse and Touchpad speed settings and it's still too sllow. How can I increase the tracking speed? |
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| 05:33.05 | leibniz | i did a apt install php7.0 php7.0-mysql |
| 05:33.11 | leibniz | but no go |
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| 05:34.13 | leibniz | when i make the <?php phpinfo(); ?> |
| 05:34.21 | leibniz | it doen't work |
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| 05:36.23 | Colloguy` | or rather, what is the best practice way to increase touchpad speed? there are lots of ways, like xinput, or synclient, but I'm having trouble figuring out what's best practice, what's deprecated... |
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| 05:40.54 | iodev | leibniz: it's probably turned off |
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| 05:44.38 | leibniz | did i not install it properly |
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| 05:45.59 | iodev | leibniz: you installed it properly, but in php.ini, php_info() may be turned off |
| 05:46.07 | leibniz | ohh |
| 05:46.12 | leibniz | ok |
| 05:46.22 | iodev | leibniz: it may be a default hardened setup |
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| 05:47.40 | Colloguy` | xinput set-float-prop 'SynPS/2 Synaptics Touchpad' 'libinput Accel Speed' 1.0 :) |
| 05:47.54 | hanasaki | iodev: hmmm why my phone says this is the PIN ... where do you enter it in bluetoothctl? |
| 05:48.34 | iodev | hanasaki: it scanned? |
| 05:48.45 | hanasaki | yes |
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| 05:49.04 | iodev | hanasaki: don't use bluetoothctl then, use gui |
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| 05:49.40 | hanasaki | iodev: usign the gnome one... doesn't find my device... |
| 05:49.53 | iodev | but bluetoothctl does? |
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| 05:52.34 | hanasaki | yes |
| 05:52.51 | iodev | hanasaki: ran pair <device-mac> in bluetoothctl |
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| 05:54.19 | hanasaki | org.bluez.Error.AlreadyExists |
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| 05:54.50 | hanasaki | Device DC:EE:06:E9:9F:44 RSSI: -61 |
| 05:54.51 | leibniz | nah the php_info is not an option in php.inf |
| 05:55.05 | leibniz | i think i will just uninstall php7 and try php5 |
| 05:55.12 | leibniz | because i have had success with php5 |
| 05:55.27 | hanasaki | iodev: in bluetoothctl how do you delete a paired dev |
| 05:55.37 | iodev | remove hanasaki |
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| 06:00.55 | hanasaki | iodev: thanks! its working!!!! I swear you only asked me to do what I have already done and found on the net :(:( |
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| 06:02.01 | hanasaki | now when I reboot... lol lets see if it still works |
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| 06:08.31 | iodev | hanasaki: now gui should work too |
| 06:08.43 | hanasaki | would someone help with this? BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 03)Unsupported SPROM revision: 11 |
| 06:08.43 | hanasaki | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.51 | hanasaki | iodev: yes it does |
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| 06:15.27 | hanasaki | iodev: bluetooth working. thanks for the help |
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| 06:16.57 | hanasaki | the wifi work until upgrading to stretch |
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| 06:56.45 | pav5088 | Is there any software bundled in Debian for accessing an Android smartphone camera? Google is turning up two or three options (ip webcam, droidcam etc...) but they don't appear to be packaged |
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| 06:59.42 | tdn | I use Debian 8 with KDE and Chromium as my browser. Everytime I start Chromium, it says "Chromium isnt your default browser. Set as default?" No matter how many times I press Set as default, it keeps saying this. I also set Chromium as default via update-alternatives. How do I fix this? |
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| 07:02.10 | __Ozy__ | I'm trying to build an i386 package on an amd64 system. I was trying the sbuild route, but kept running into issues with it not auto-installing packages. I then went down the route of debuild by using "apt-get build-dep -a i386 <pkg> && debuild -a i386 -uc -us -b". This is failing out at "dh_strip: i686-linux-gnu-objcopy" with no such file or directory. I have installed build-essential and g++-multilib on top of the build-dep command. Does anyone have any |
| 07:02.11 | __Ozy__ | suggestions as to what I might be missing? |
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| 07:04.45 | hanasaki | pav5088: I recall something about MTP .. sorry that's all I have |
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| 07:07.13 | __Ozy__ | Additionally, I saw statements about crossbuild-essential on one of the pages, but there does not appear to be one for i386. I've also noticed an error about "specified GNU system type does not match CC system type" and if I run readelf on the .so that has been built, it shows "ELF64" even though it was put in i386-linux-gnu, so I doubt I'm building correctly with debuild in the first place. |
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| 07:11.32 | vadimkolchev | Hello. My D-Link DWA-140 USB dongle works in installation environment (netinstall) but fails to connect to the same network after reboot. Shows reconnection loop with link not ready messages. In logs I have seen that it tried to load rt2870sta driver. I contacted kernel devs on it, and they claim that there are no differences between stock debian 9 kernel and updated in terms of networking, so there might me different issue. Does anyone have |
| 07:11.32 | vadimkolchev | experience with this and can advise? |
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| 07:14.58 | __Ozy__ | vadimkolchev: first thought would be that you're missing the firmware |
| 07:15.11 | __Ozy__ | vadimkolchev: It looks like it's part of firmware-misc-nonfree. |
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| 07:15.30 | vadimkolchev | __Ozy__, not the case, all firmware installed |
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| 07:25.54 | __Ozy__ | vadimkolchev: Are there any modules loaded for ^rt? It seems like you're probably wanting rt2800usb? Not sure what would change between installation environment and install environment, though. |
| 07:27.43 | vadimkolchev | __Ozy__, actually it tries to load rt2870sta |
| 07:28.23 | __Ozy__ | Yeah, that seemed weird with what I saw. It looks like it is under the supported devices for rt2800usb, and I don't see an rt2870sta module. |
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| 07:39.11 | BlueSpruce | Hi everyone. A quick question: what's the difference between Debian desktop environment and GNOME? |
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| 07:40.33 | __Ozy__ | desktop environment installs an xserver and desktop-base, Gnome installs that specific environment on top |
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| 07:43.34 | babooo | Hello guys i have multiple files that i want to tail and pipe the output from each them to separate files i have a bunch of log files like 1.log 2.log 3.log i want to tail the last 60 lines of each of them and output them in different folder with the original file names |
| 07:43.43 | babooo | something like this tail -n 60 /home/user/*.log >> /home/user/tailed/*.log |
| 07:43.51 | babooo | but as far as i understood this will copy everything tailed in 1 file |
| 07:44.22 | hanasaki | just installed debian 9 from scratch... authenticating as root fails. yes ... I am sure of the password |
| 07:45.01 | __Ozy__ | hanasaki: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=866206 |
| 07:45.03 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/866206 in cdimage.debian.org (open, d-i): «cdimage.debian.org: Setting root password in d-i on live image doesn't seem to work»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-06-28; last modified: 2017-06-28. |
| 07:45.41 | babilen | As always: Use the standard installation images |
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| 07:45.48 | klys | baboo, for f in *.log; do tail -n 60 "$f" >> tailed/"$f"; done |
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| 07:45.51 | __Ozy__ | babooo: Might be easier with a for loop? for FILE in /home/user/*.log |
| 07:46.01 | hanasaki | __Ozy__: thank you... that is only a normal severity/ |
| 07:46.19 | babilen | Yeah, it doesn't break anything |
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| 07:46.29 | babilen | (anything else that is) |
| 07:46.33 | __Ozy__ | hanasaki: My understanding is it's a live image bug only, and is pretty easy to work around |
| 07:46.34 | hanasaki | babilen: other than the install |
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| 07:46.47 | hanasaki | __Ozy__: what's the work around? |
| 07:47.07 | babilen | hanasaki: It's just one part of the install .. annoying and FIXME!!!!, but it's not that it causes other parts of the system to misbehave or break |
| 07:47.22 | babilen | dpkg: ifrp |
| 07:47.22 | dpkg | For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
| 07:47.27 | hanasaki | babilen: so how do I get to root after the install? |
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| 07:48.12 | babilen | You could try setting it with the method above .. I wouldn't recommend to use the live CD images for installing Debian though and you could also consider reinstalling using the proper ones. |
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| 07:51.07 | babooo | klys, thanks will try now |
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| 07:53.30 | babooo | klys, it worked like a charm thank you very much :) |
| 07:53.48 | klys | yw. |
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| 07:55.35 | babilen | hanasaki: "i forgot root password" |
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| 07:57.54 | Marethyu | So, I have a 10GB /root partition. I had to install big libs (dlib, boost) and now it is 97% full. Is there a way to expand the size without nuking my hard drive ? |
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| 08:03.29 | jolt | Marethyu: You can use a rescue cd, boot it and resize the partitions with gparted, parted or such |
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| 08:05.51 | hanasaki | did someone in here poke my firewall and sshd? |
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| 08:07.04 | vlt | Assume yes :-D |
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| 08:10.13 | BlueSpruce | When I installed "Debian desktop environment" I got GNOME. Does this mean they are the same? Why are they separated in the installer then? |
| 08:12.40 | __Ozy__ | You can see what tasks are installed with tasksel --list-tasks. Maybe if you didn't select one it defaults to one in the installer? Not sure. |
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| 08:26.37 | vlt | BlueSpruce: I'd say "Debian desktop" points to whatever Debian chooses as its current default, while "Gnome desktop" explicitely installs that. |
| 08:28.03 | BlueSpruce | I see. Thank you, vlt. |
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| 08:42.59 | luichi | hello |
| 08:43.39 | luichi | im using debian 9 stretch, can i use slim desktop manager with compiz or is only compatible with gnome and mate? |
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| 08:44.41 | introom | hi |
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| 08:45.27 | introom | Is there a version of `linux-manual' packages that gets updated if I update th kernel? |
| 08:45.50 | introom | in debian, there is two packages hardcoded with the kernel version, `linux-manual-4.9' and `linux-manual-4.11' |
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| 08:49.33 | babilen | introom: Don't think so |
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| 08:53.22 | ntz | hello |
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| 08:53.55 | ntz | can I do something like [pseudocode]: sed '1,/^foo$/-1d' /file ?? |
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| 08:54.15 | ntz | eg when stripping something from line I'd like to leave there a boundary line |
| 08:54.56 | ntz | good example: sed '1,/^-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----/d' ~/tmp/message.src.txt |
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| 08:55.16 | ntz | ^^ this will strip teh line as well and I'd like to leave it there untouched] |
| 08:55.45 | ntz | **stripping from file, not from line |
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| 08:56.45 | Mahe | luichi, slim is a display manager (more or less just the login screen), gnome and mate are desktop environments |
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| 08:57.12 | pav5088 | ntz, you might be better asking in #bash (although you should specify if you're using eg. dash.... |
| 08:57.50 | Mahe | luichi, unless you are talking about using compiz standalone without a desktop environment |
| 08:58.03 | hanasaki | how do you make a luks crypt swap partiion and mount it? |
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| 09:00.09 | ntz | pav5088: perl -ne '$foo = 1 if m@^-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----@; print if $foo; undef $foo if m@^-----END PGP MESSAGE-----@;' ~/tmp/original_msg.txt |
| 09:00.38 | ntz | ^^ works like this but I still wanted to know if I can make it using sed by selecting ``previous line'' by match |
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| 09:06.23 | TuxoHolic | Hello, can somebody explain why samba-common is already creating a generic /etc/samba/smb.conf when I'm not installing the samba server package? Isn't samba-common supposed to be just a set of shared libraries for samba client and samba server? |
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| 09:07.08 | luichi | Mahe: i tried using slim desktop manager and compiz and doesnt work |
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| 09:11.58 | Mahe | luichi, are you deliberately trying to use compiz standalone without a desktop environment? |
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| 09:13.33 | luichi | Mahe: im trying with slim desktop manager |
| 09:13.54 | Mahe | luichi, have you used compiz standalone before? |
| 09:16.34 | Mahe | again slim is only a _display_ manager, _not_ a full desktop environment |
| 09:17.24 | luichi | Mahe: in debian 6 there was compiz-gtk package there are only compiz, compiz-mate and compiz-gnome packages |
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| 09:19.55 | dusty_ghost | hi |
| 09:19.57 | Mahe | luichi, the -mate and -gnome packages are integration packages if you are planning to use compiz with either gnome or mate; if you use any other desktop environment simply choose compiz |
| 09:20.39 | dusty_ghost | can i make an executable check its own hashsum when compiling/linking it? |
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| 09:22.11 | Mahe | compiz is just a window manager (WM), unless you want to run it standalone (which I don't recommend for starters) you will need a desktop environment (DE) as a base. The display manager (DM) which displays the login screen - slim in your case - is completely separate! |
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| 09:25.01 | luichi | ?? |
| 09:25.25 | luichi | Mahe, ? |
| 09:25.31 | Mahe | luichi, yes? |
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| 09:25.54 | luichi | can i use compiz with slim desktop manager? |
| 09:25.58 | luichi | it doesnt work for me |
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| 09:27.57 | Mahe | luichi, there is no such thing as a "desktop manager". There are "display manager" and "desktop environment". "SLiM" is a "display manager" - a login screen basically. What you need for compiz is a "desktop environment"! |
| 09:28.25 | luichi | Mahe, aa ok sorry |
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| 09:28.56 | luichi | Mahe, compiz cant be used with a display manager? |
| 09:29.50 | Mahe | luichi, the display manager is just the login screen. compiz is a "window manager" - it is used together with a "desktop environment" _after_ the login screen. |
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| 09:30.05 | luichi | Mahe, yes i know |
| 09:30.47 | luichi | desktop enviroment = display manager + window manager + apps |
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| 09:30.53 | Mahe | luichi, correct |
| 09:31.09 | luichi | so slim display manager with compiz window manager should work no? |
| 09:31.39 | Mahe | luichi, you can't use a window manager on a login screen (display manager) as far as I know |
| 09:31.45 | Mahe | for what purpose anyway? |
| 09:31.54 | Mahe | there are no windows on the login screen |
| 09:32.21 | luichi | i used fluxbox window manager with slim display manager and it worked |
| 09:32.34 | luichi | when i login to slim i enter to fluxbox |
| 09:32.46 | luichi | i want the same but instead of fluxbox i want to try compiz |
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| 09:33.54 | smhar | greetings |
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| 09:34.04 | Mahe | luichi, ah now I understand, then you want compiz standalone |
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| 09:34.32 | luichi | Mahe, i have to compile it? |
| 09:34.40 | Mahe | luichi, no |
| 09:35.22 | luichi | Mahe, i found this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Compiz#Using_Compiz_as_a_standalone_window_manager |
| 09:35.51 | Mahe | luichi, yes that would be the correct way |
| 09:36.29 | smhar | I upgraded my debian to stretch and now I installed mysql and apache as per this guide: https://wiki.debian.org/LaMp , the problem is that phpmyadmin pge says: The mysqli extension is missing. php -r 'phpinfo();' | grep -i mysqli show it is enabled: http://paste.debian.net/974700/ |
| 09:37.08 | Mahe | luichi, maybe the Ubuntu instructions are also helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompizStandalone#Add_a_login_manager_session |
| 09:37.59 | luichi | Mahe, yes ubuntu instructions are more clear :) |
| 09:38.32 | Mahe | luichi, be aware that they might be slightly outdated in terms of command paths or arguments - you might have to play around a little |
| 09:39.12 | luichi | Mahe, ok if i will try it and if it works i will add a link or instructions to debian wiki because i didnt find it there |
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| 09:39.37 | Mahe | luichi, that would be great :) |
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| 09:40.13 | luichi | Mahe, i always try to add what i dont find at the debian wiki |
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| 09:42.35 | Mahe | luichi, that's commendable :) |
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| 10:21.17 | OtakuSenpai | hey Mahe |
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| 10:30.25 | velix | I've just switched from DHCP to static. How can I apply changes? restart networking doesn't work. |
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| 10:31.10 | petn-randall | velix: Where did you change it? |
| 10:31.19 | velix | petn-randall: etc networking |
| 10:31.27 | velix | pardon: nano /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:31.46 | petn-randall | velix: then I'd use ifup/ifdown to take the interface down and put it back up. |
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| 10:32.19 | velix | petn-randall: It's a server via SSH. Can I run ifup/down connected by && or ; ? |
| 10:32.32 | petn-randall | velix: Note that restarting the networking service to re-configure the network interfaces hasn't worked anymore since lenny, IIRC. |
| 10:32.46 | petn-randall | velix: You can, in that case I'd run it in screen/tmux, though. |
| 10:32.47 | velix | petn-randall: I thought, there's a script behind. |
| 10:33.01 | petn-randall | velix: And make 100% sure the config is right, otherwise the if won't come up again. |
| 10:33.04 | velix | petn-randall: but it will kill my ssh connection, won'tit? :) |
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| 10:33.28 | velix | petn-randall: ifdown eno2; ifup eno2 |
| 10:33.47 | petn-randall | velix: I'd connect them with && |
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| 10:34.02 | velix | petn-randall: ok |
| 10:34.07 | petn-randall | velix: Your SSH connection will likely be lost, yes. |
| 10:34.11 | velix | ok |
| 10:34.33 | velix | petn-randall: ifdown: interface eno2 not configured |
| 10:34.34 | petn-randall | (that's why you should use screen or tmux so this doesn't matter) |
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| 10:34.52 | petn-randall | velix: Is your interface named eno2 in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 10:35.02 | velix | petn-randall: https://bpaste.net/show/31d13d37f114 |
| 10:35.36 | petn-randall | velix: What is 'autho eno2'? |
| 10:35.48 | velix | petn-randall: the debian tutorial about static IP told me os |
| 10:35.49 | velix | so |
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| 10:36.03 | petn-randall | likely a typo |
| 10:36.16 | velix | petn-randall: ooh... the "o" |
| 10:36.22 | petn-randall | !tutorial |
| 10:36.22 | dpkg | A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their system without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way. |
| 10:36.42 | velix | petn-randall: typo ... :) |
| 10:37.03 | petn-randall | velix: What is it supposed to read? |
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| 10:37.44 | velix | petn-randall: auto eno2 |
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| 10:38.28 | petn-randall | velix: Yeah, that should be right. Was it configured there before, too? |
| 10:38.36 | petn-randall | eno2 that is. |
| 10:38.45 | velix | petn-randall: thcp |
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| 10:39.00 | velix | petn-randall: argh sorry, I am in a hurry. Thanks for your help. It works now |
| 10:39.07 | Mahe | OtakuSenpai, hello OtakuSenpai |
| 10:39.31 | petn-randall | velix: Just make sure it works after a reboot. |
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| 10:40.03 | velix | petn-randall: yep :) |
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| 10:45.42 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
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| 10:52.50 | aexl | hi. anybody got mlb.tv working? i tried firefox 52.2.0 and google-chrome-stable 59.0.3071.115-1 both with flashplayer 26.0.0.131. i only get audio. |
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| 10:54.16 | petn-randall | aexl: It's probably best to take it up with their support. Since it's a pay-for service, nobody here will be able to debug it with you. |
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| 10:55.05 | petn-randall | aexl: Most modern websites also use HTML5 for media, so it shouldn't require Adobe Flash. |
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| 10:56.51 | aexl | petn-randall: linux is not supported by them. they require flash. i just thought i could get lucky here ... |
| 10:57.44 | petn-randall | aexl: But they support browsers, don't they? The underlying OS should be irrelevant. |
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| 10:59.51 | dusty_ghost | you could also try if it works with pepperflash |
| 11:00.54 | dusty_ghost | (personally i would stay away from sites that require flash though.) |
| 11:01.13 | petn-randall | (same here) |
| 11:01.29 | aexl | dusty_ghost: actually it does use libpepflashplayer.so for flash |
| 11:01.45 | skgd | I installed debian 9 stretch on lenevo pc arch 64bit.....My PC was all well since last few weeks. Today it is not booting showing below error. Please guide me which logs can resolve issue. It is server hence need immediate solution. |
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| 11:02.07 | skgd | failed to load rtl8812ae.bin |
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| 11:04.09 | skgd | My pC is not booting since it is failing to load firmware for bluetooth and wifi devices....altough wifi worked fine since past 2 weeks |
| 11:04.32 | dusty_ghost | sorry, i am not using flash myself - just heard pepperflash is considered the best solution for some people. |
| 11:04.37 | skgd | i installed debian stretch on 21st june |
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| 11:05.07 | skgd | I am ready to share logs please suggest what to share |
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| 11:08.00 | aexl | mlbviewer with rtmpdump works. thx anyway |
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| 11:09.02 | aexl | skgd: i guess you need firmware-realtek |
| 11:09.32 | aexl | it contains rtl_bt/rtl8812ae_fw.bin |
| 11:10.04 | skgd | aexl: Please tell in which path in root filesystem ican find this driver file |
| 11:10.13 | aexl | not sure why you would need bluetooth to boot though. maybe you still have this somewhere in your old configs? |
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| 11:11.50 | aexl | the whole path is /lib/firmware/rtl_bt/ |
| 11:11.56 | skgd | aexl: I am using lenevo all in one PC before i used wheezy upgraded to stretch a few week back |
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| 11:12.27 | aexl | BUT there's no rtl8812ae.bin just a file ending in _fw.bin |
| 11:12.37 | skgd | i worked with my pc no problems.....just today stopped booting , i can see the error message on the screen |
| 11:12.47 | aexl | i guess you need to make a fresh install |
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| 11:14.20 | skgd | aexl: please suggest which log will help to understand issue |
| 11:14.35 | aexl | well look if there's a file in /lib/firmware/rtl_bt/. maybe you can make a symlink to the new file. |
| 11:15.53 | skgd | aexl: one more problem since boot process is not complete network is down on my pc, curretnly chatting from different pc |
| 11:16.33 | skgd | aexl: I will join back in a short while |
| 11:17.02 | skgd | exit |
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| 11:19.21 | velix | petn-randall: It survived the reboot. |
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| 11:19.42 | vadimkolchev | what is the difference between rt2800usb and rt2870sta driver? my usb dongle tries to load rt2870sta, probably this is the reason why it does not work for me. I guess it should load rt2800usb instead |
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| 11:23.49 | iodev | vadimkolchev: 2 very old drivers, yeah you're totally right |
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| 11:23.56 | iodev | blacklist rt2870sta |
| 11:24.42 | cti4728 | iodev: isn't that a vendor driver (not in kernel tree) anyway? |
| 11:24.59 | vadimkolchev | iodev, okay thank you, will try it when I get to that pc |
| 11:25.07 | iodev | cti4728: rt2870sta is in kernel tree |
| 11:25.19 | iodev | I remember, I had it on a toshiba sattellite 2430 |
| 11:25.21 | cti4728 | iodev: oh, but in staging i guess? |
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| 11:27.00 | iodev | cti4728: hmm, I remember having quite the opposite issue with rt2800usb loading instead of rt2870sta |
| 11:27.12 | cti4728 | iodev: usually the naming for in-tree ralink drivers is rtNpci or rtNusb (where N is 2500, 2570, 73, ...) |
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| 11:27.35 | iodev | https://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta |
| 11:27.56 | cti4728 | staging... |
| 11:28.01 | iodev | yeah |
| 11:28.05 | vadimkolchev | iodev, probably it is opposite, I have to check, as I do not have access to this pc currently, but will be able to do it in the evening |
| 11:28.10 | cti4728 | so it's the vendor driver actually |
| 11:28.16 | cti4728 | horrible code quality |
| 11:28.22 | vadimkolchev | actually, this dongle works great during install, but fails after I reboot |
| 11:28.35 | vadimkolchev | was not an issue in Jessie, though |
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| 11:28.54 | vadimkolchev | after that I made fresh install (needed to do it anyway) |
| 11:28.54 | cti4728 | vadimkolchev: maybe the firmware is simply missing? |
| 11:28.59 | iodev | vadimkolchev: I had my issues with ubuntu, not debian and that old 2001 laptop |
| 11:29.00 | vadimkolchev | cti4728, no, it isn't |
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| 11:29.27 | vadimkolchev | cti4728, actually I can connect manually with wpa_supplicant, but after 30 seconds link is lost |
| 11:29.35 | vadimkolchev | cti4728, and I can scan for networks |
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| 11:29.50 | vadimkolchev | constantly getting link not ready loop |
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| 11:30.06 | cti4728 | i only have experience with older ralink chips like rt73usb. i don't know if they fucked up with the rt28xx series |
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| 11:30.10 | vadimkolchev | tried with wicd, but the same results, disconnects in 10-30 seconds |
| 11:30.34 | vadimkolchev | cti4728, actually I don't have problems with this dongle with every other distro I tried, and I tried many. |
| 11:31.02 | vadimkolchev | cti4728, Arch, Fedora, RHEL, Ubuntu, openSUSE etc. - everything just works there |
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| 11:32.23 | cti4728 | vadimkolchev: did you also try wpa_supplicant alone? (not controlled by network manager or wicd) |
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| 11:34.14 | nvz | vadimkolchev: there are two parts a kernel driver and firmware that is loaded onto the device, if you know it works well in other distros you should observe what versions of these things they use and perhaps consider building a new kernel or updating the firmware, then file a bug against whatever causes the issue |
| 11:34.34 | cti4728 | vadimkolchev: which driver do you use when running wpa_supplicant manually? (-Dwext or -Dnl80211) |
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| 11:35.36 | vadimkolchev | cti4728, yes, as I have written above , i used ip link and wpa_supplicant with dhclient. I can connect, but for 10 -30 |
| 11:36.17 | vadimkolchev | cti4728, i just use this - wpa_supplicant -i myiface -c<(wpa_passphrase SSID PASS) -B |
| 11:36.33 | cti4728 | vadimkolchev: sorry, i missed the manual wpa_supplicant part. |
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| 11:36.48 | cti4728 | vadimkolchev: so you don't specify the -D... option |
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| 11:37.16 | cti4728 | vadimkolchev: i don't know which is the default, but you could try -Dnl80211 then -Dwext |
| 11:37.18 | vadimkolchev | cti4728, yes, I never do, actually |
| 11:37.29 | vadimkolchev | cti4728, okay, thanks, will give it a shot |
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| 11:37.55 | cti4728 | vadimkolchev: and for testing it is better not to use -B |
| 11:38.14 | vadimkolchev | cti4728, yes, I know, I use it when I see that everything is okay |
| 11:38.14 | cti4728 | vadimkolchev: this way you cannot forget that wpa_supplicant is still running |
| 11:39.18 | cti4728 | vadimkolchev: does it also disconnect when you don't send any traffic (not even dhcp request) over the link? |
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| 11:41.47 | vadimkolchev | cti4728, actually, not sure about that as I send dhcp request right after I use wpa_supplicant |
| 11:42.18 | cti4728 | vadimkolchev: well you don't have to :) |
| 11:44.32 | cti4728 | vadimkolchev: if the access point has ipv6, you can also test connectivity without the need of a dhcp lease. just "ping6 ff02::1%wlan0" all DUP icmp replies are from other ipv6 hosts on the link. |
| 11:45.04 | vadimkolchev | cti4728, no, it uses ipv4 |
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| 11:46.25 | cti4728 | vadimkolchev: it doesn't even need a configured ipv6 address. the link local address (fe80:...) will be sufficient. |
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| 11:51.01 | skgd | aexl: I am back |
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| 11:57.23 | menace | hi, i do not see make-kpkg in the repository via "apt-file search". it is referenced in https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch08s06.html.en what's the autorative way to rebuild a linux kernel and make a debian package from that? |
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| 12:00.41 | skgd | aexl: i cheked ion folder /lib/modules/<linux kernel number>/kernel/net/wireless |
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| 12:01.21 | skgd | there is no such file rtl8821aefw.bin |
| 12:03.15 | teraflops | fw is not stored there |
| 12:03.40 | skgd | debian9 stopped bootting due to folllowing error |
| 12:04.18 | skgd | failed to load for rtl_bt/rtl8812a_config.bin |
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| 12:05.55 | skgd | similarly due to rtl_bt/rtl8812a_fw.bin |
| 12:06.26 | skgd | rtl8821aefw.bin |
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| 12:36.53 | Uller | Hi, how do I check DDR RAM frequency in Debian? |
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| 12:38.16 | apollo13 | dmidecode --type 17 |
| 12:38.27 | apollo13 | or lshw |
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| 12:49.52 | Uller | apollo13: will it also display my ram chip manufacturer? |
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| 13:00.13 | blob0 | Hello. |
| 13:00.42 | nvz | .olleH |
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| 13:01.12 | blob0 | When doing updates, more often than not, for some odd reason I get a 404, or connection dropped, and than it picks up an HTTP connection, as opposed to the original HTTPS connection. I want to force use of HTTPS, or maybe better ask. |
| 13:01.58 | BluesKaj | blob0, try some different mirrors |
| 13:02.20 | blob0 | I am in a situation where someone may me altering my packets as they come, is this possible, and if so, they are injecting modified versions of the packages i install. Curiously have never seen HTTPS downgrade to HTTP like this... Happens with various mirrors, auto rotations, etc. |
| 13:02.56 | blob0 | Possible to block port 80, or route all web traffic to 443? Is this a thing? Block all, and obviously destroy access, to any non HTTPS site? |
| 13:03.25 | nvz | packages are digitally signed and verified |
| 13:03.58 | blob0 | nvz, and sneaking a key in is not possible? |
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| 13:04.13 | blob0 | Compromising the key system, of not by my own hand? |
| 13:04.30 | blob0 | Accepting a key off hand when i was tired? now, is this overboard, all of this? |
| 13:04.47 | nvz | i heard the aliens do posses such technology |
| 13:05.16 | apollo13 | Uller: just try? |
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| 13:05.26 | blob0 | What, social engineering skills? Crazy. |
| 13:05.44 | blob0 | Packet forming? In my country? Not that hard to believe. |
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| 13:07.24 | petn-randall | blob0: Do manipulate the apt keyring you need local root access. If an attacker already has that, they don't need to "inject" modified packages into your download. |
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| 13:08.02 | maxcell_ | hi i need help with the new debian testing. I can't install linux-headers, it only have 4.11 linux-headers and the kernel is 4.9 |
| 13:08.14 | RachaelLee | hi. when i type apt-get update it just loops and loops, is there something wrong with apt at the moment? |
| 13:08.22 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 13:08.23 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 13:08.25 | petn-randall | RachaelLee: ^^^ |
| 13:08.34 | blob0 | petn-randall, and imagine, there was say a browser exploit lodged against me, and they compromised my key, than it is already there, compromised. Ehhh. *shrugs* |
| 13:08.41 | blob0 | Thank you. |
| 13:08.56 | petn-randall | blob0: Are you browsing as root? That might be your problem right there. |
| 13:08.59 | RachaelLee | ok, |
| 13:09.08 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 13:09.09 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.11.0-trunk-686 (4.11.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.11.0-1-686 (4.11.6-1); buster: 4.11.0-1-686 (4.11.6-1); stretch: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.30-2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.89-2) |
| 13:09.17 | blob0 | petn-randall, Yeah, specifically, anything related to doas, or sudo, I oppose. Direct root login :) |
| 13:09.30 | abrotman | maxcell_: buster has 4.11, sounds like your system is a bit out of date |
| 13:09.33 | petn-randall | blob0: Are you running Kali or Parrot? |
| 13:09.36 | blob0 | petn-randall, even as non root, it is possible, say an exploit as well in the underlying system? Systemd? |
| 13:09.48 | maxcell_ | abrotman, its a new install, i just got here |
| 13:09.57 | abrotman | maxcell_: doesn't change my answer |
| 13:09.59 | maxcell_ | abrotman, already did apt update, upgrade, dist-upgrade |
| 13:10.03 | blob0 | petn-randall, I am running Vanilla, stable debian, fedora stable, and one box with BSD. |
| 13:10.16 | abrotman | maxcell_: paste your sources.list in paste.debian.net |
| 13:10.24 | maxcell_ | ok |
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| 13:10.35 | petn-randall | blob0: Ok, because you're not making much sense. |
| 13:10.42 | blob0 | petn-randall, just overtly paranoid, and, you know, 22 is prime age to fall into psychosis, sorry. |
| 13:10.56 | petn-randall | o.O |
| 13:11.02 | blob0 | petn-randall, That is not good, I am normally coherent... |
| 13:11.13 | maxcell_ | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/974719/ |
| 13:11.20 | abrotman | blob0: then perhaps you should step away from the computer |
| 13:11.51 | petn-randall | blob0: The question you should ask is, "does it elevate privileges?". And in this case the answer is "no". If you have local root, you don't need to manipulate web traffic to root the machine. |
| 13:12.13 | abrotman | maxcell_: and "apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade' doesn't want to upgrade your kernel ? |
| 13:12.15 | RachaelLee | ok, here is my apt stuff http://paste.debian.net/974720/ |
| 13:12.25 | blob0 | abrotman, https://networkeffect.io/ -- good advice, i am scared of the sun *shrugs* |
| 13:12.28 | maxcell_ | abrotman, it doesn't =( |
| 13:12.33 | abrotman | maxcell_: or it already did and you haven't rebooted yet? |
| 13:12.35 | maxcell_ | abrotman, should i restart the computer and try again? |
| 13:12.38 | abrotman | blob0: I don't give a crap, stop rambling |
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| 13:12.42 | RachaelLee | and i have tried cdn.debian.net/debian/ too, and it does the same thing |
| 13:12.49 | blob0 | I am literally lost in psychosis, be back, in like, 6 months |
| 13:12.49 | abrotman | maxcell_: dpkg -l | grep linux-image .. do you see a 4.11 ? |
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| 13:13.09 | maxcell_ | abrotman, let me see |
| 13:14.00 | maxcell_ | abrotman, just 4.9 but in apt-cache search linux-image i can see 4.11 should i manually install it? |
| 13:14.14 | abrotman | maxcell_: apt-get install linux-image-amd64 |
| 13:14.49 | maxcell_ | abrotman, linux-image-amd64 is already the newest version (4.9+80). |
| 13:14.51 | maxcell_ | weird |
| 13:15.17 | Uller | apollo13: dmidecode works but I can't do --type17 |
| 13:15.39 | abrotman | I guess the metapackage isn't updated yet .. Install the 4.11, reboot, install the headers |
| 13:15.48 | maxcell_ | ok |
| 13:16.02 | maxcell_ | a little question before i reboot |
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| 13:16.43 | maxcell_ | in the grub, when i put nomodeset in the edit what key i should press to boot up? |
| 13:16.56 | maxcell_ | it says F1 but didn't work |
| 13:17.00 | abrotman | you can add that in so you don't have to edit it |
| 13:17.04 | abrotman | but probably 'b' to boot |
| 13:17.19 | maxcell_ | but if i press b, it will type the letter |
| 13:17.34 | maxcell_ | if i press ESC it will back without saving the edit |
| 13:17.52 | maxcell_ | where i add that? |
| 13:17.58 | maxcell_ | before reboot the new kernel |
| 13:17.59 | abrotman | /etc/default/grub IIRC |
| 13:18.08 | maxcell_ | ok |
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| 13:19.36 | apollo13 | Uller: define "can't do" |
| 13:19.54 | apollo13 | Uller: also note that I had a blank between type and 17 |
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| 13:20.29 | dury | hi there channel (y) |
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| 13:22.01 | maxcell_ | abrotman, you mean /boot/grub/grub.cfg? |
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| 13:22.47 | dury | so Stretch, would it be more reliable than Jessie? even for open-hardware like raspberry pi, beaglebone boards and so on? |
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| 13:23.39 | maxcell_ | abrotman, its a read-only file should i change permissions to edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg in order to put nomodeset on the kernel boot options? |
| 13:24.28 | abrotman | maxcell_: I believe that file is generated from the one in /etc/default/grub Does that file exist? |
| 13:25.03 | maxcell_ | abrotman, yes it exist, i will copy the content to you |
| 13:25.10 | abrotman | maxcell_: you don't have to |
| 13:25.41 | abrotman | maxcell_: but you change the options, run update-grub (or install the new kernel which will do that automagically) and then you should see the change reflected in the grub.cfg |
| 13:26.14 | rephlexie | dury, my BeagleB shipped with Jessie Images3 months ago |
| 13:26.36 | rephlexie | *images |
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| 13:27.34 | maxcell_ | abrotman, i already install the 4.11 and headers as you said, the content of the /boot/grub.cfg still doesn't have the nomodeset option and i dont understand where to put that on the /etc/default/grub because i didn't understand the content of the file at all, i don't see where i can put the option on this file |
| 13:28.13 | abrotman | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="" |
| 13:28.16 | abrotman | change that line |
| 13:28.19 | maxcell_ | abrotman, oh yeah |
| 13:28.34 | maxcell_ | abrotman, lol |
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| 13:29.53 | maxcell_ | abrotman, going for reboot, sorry bother you bro |
| 13:30.02 | maxcell_ | brb |
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| 13:31.20 | abrotman | he hopes anyway .. |
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| 13:35.05 | maxcell_ | abrotman, hi it's all good now but when i run apt-get update it give me an apt-key error this time =( |
| 13:35.20 | maxcell_ | abrotman, W: http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/dists/buster/InRelease: The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is not readable by user '_apt' executing apt-key. |
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| 13:36.13 | abrotman | maxcell_: seems like you need to change permissions or change ownership of the file |
| 13:36.28 | maxcell_ | oh man |
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| 13:37.03 | maxcell_ | im completly lost right now, the system is new i just install it |
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| 13:38.59 | maxcell_ | abrotman, root@debian:/home/maxcell# ls -l /etc/apt/trusted.gpg |
| 13:38.59 | maxcell_ | -rw------- 1 root root 32 jul 4 10:01 /etc/apt/trusted.gpg |
| 13:39.08 | maxcell_ | its rw |
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| 13:40.41 | Uller | apollo13: thanks, I didn't use space between "type" and "17" |
| 13:40.50 | th0r | it should be 644 I think...it is on my system |
| 13:41.13 | abrotman | maxcell_: but no other user can read it |
| 13:41.31 | maxcell_ | abrotman, hmm |
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| 13:42.08 | maxcell_ | abrotman, and it needs the user _apt to read it? |
| 13:42.22 | abrotman | maxcell_: chmod 644 /etc/apt/trusted.gpg I suppose or chown _apt /etc/apt/trusted.gpg |
| 13:42.47 | th0r | abrotman, chmod....-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12456 Jul 1 21:14 /etc/apt/trusted.gpg |
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| 13:43.22 | maxcell_ | abrotman, i have "_apt" in /etc/passwd, this file contains the groups right? |
| 13:44.11 | abrotman | maxcell_: try the chmod, change it to 644 |
| 13:44.26 | maxcell_ | abrotman, oh right |
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| 13:46.30 | maxcell_ | abrotman, now it gives me another errors, it says that the following signatures couldn't have been signed because there is no pub keys available |
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| 13:46.57 | maxcell_ | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/974736/ |
| 13:47.31 | abrotman | i'd probably try to install the debian-keyring package |
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| 13:48.24 | maxcell_ | abrotman, segmentation fault :~ |
| 13:48.32 | abrotman | eh .. |
| 13:48.35 | maxcell_ | ^^ |
| 13:48.42 | maxcell_ | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault. |
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| 13:49.17 | maxcell_ | worked now |
| 13:49.21 | maxcell_ | lol.. |
| 13:49.58 | maxcell_ | abrotman, debian-keyring is installed but... what should i do with that |
| 13:50.07 | abrotman | does apt-get update work now? |
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| 13:50.25 | maxcell_ | abrotman, no, same error |
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| 13:50.48 | maxcell_ | but there is a keytool program installed now |
| 13:50.56 | maxcell_ | a program kalled "keytool" yeah |
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| 13:51.13 | abrotman | if you 'apt-key list', how many are there? |
| 13:51.48 | maxcell_ | abrotman, only keys for jessie, stretch and wheezy |
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| 13:53.21 | abrotman | is there a debian-archive-keyring package you haven't installed? |
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| 13:53.49 | maxcell_ | its installed abrotman |
| 13:53.57 | maxcell_ | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/974736/ |
| 13:53.58 | maxcell_ | ops |
| 13:54.02 | maxcell_ | sorry |
| 13:54.06 | maxcell_ | abrotman, root@debian:/home/maxcell# dpkg -l |grep debian-archive |
| 13:54.06 | maxcell_ | ii debian-archive-keyring 2017.5 all GnuPG archive keys of the Debian archive |
| 13:54.56 | abrotman | does it ask you to continue anyway? |
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| 13:55.13 | maxcell_ | abrotman, what you mean |
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| 13:56.26 | abrotman | they're just warnings |
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| 14:01.44 | maxcell_ | abrotman, how do i get a key that works with buster |
| 14:02.28 | maxcell_ | abrotman, i dont really understand the concept of key but this warning is very big on the screen and i really want to get rid of it :~ how did you do that |
| 14:02.41 | abrotman | dpkg: apt-key 46925553 |
| 14:02.42 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 46925553 ; gpg --export 46925553 | sudo apt-key add - |
| 14:03.34 | maxcell_ | gpg: failed to start the dirmngr '/usr/bin/dirmngr': Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado |
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| 14:03.49 | maxcell_ | gpg: keyserver receive failed: No dirmngr |
| 14:03.49 | maxcell_ | gpg: WARNING: nothing exported |
| 14:03.59 | abrotman | did you run it as root? |
| 14:04.03 | maxcell_ | yes |
| 14:04.11 | abrotman | remove the sudo |
| 14:04.15 | abrotman | just the sudo |
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| 14:04.47 | maxcell_ | abrotman, i just install dirmngr and run again, it works |
| 14:04.55 | maxcell_ | all good? |
| 14:05.03 | maxcell_ | i run with root |
| 14:05.10 | maxcell_ | did i do something wrong? |
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| 14:05.48 | abrotman | maxcell_: if it worked, that's fine .. did some of the errors in apt-get update go away ? |
| 14:06.00 | maxcell_ | abrotman, still same errors in apt-get update |
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| 14:06.18 | maxcell_ | abrotman, i dont get it |
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| 14:06.23 | galex-713_ | Hi |
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| 14:07.33 | maxcell_ | abrotman, W: Falhou ao buscar http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/dists/buster/InRelease As assinaturas a seguir não puderam ser verificadas devido à chave pública não estar disponÃvel: NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010 |
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| 14:07.38 | galex-713_ | I have a log thatâs being filled with an error from an unrecognized wifi card: who can I fix that? |
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| 14:07.59 | galex-713_ | I know if the log fills the disk Debian will stop working, so how could I stop that log being filled? |
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| 14:08.15 | abrotman | dpkg: apt-key 2B90D010 |
| 14:08.16 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 2B90D010 ; gpg --export 2B90D010 | sudo apt-key add - |
| 14:08.29 | abrotman | maxcell_: see above |
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| 14:08.53 | maxcell_ | abrotman, as root right? |
| 14:08.57 | abrotman | yes |
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| 14:09.23 | maxcell_ | abrotman, hmm now i see look at the "error" |
| 14:09.36 | abrotman | what error? |
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| 14:10.13 | maxcell_ | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/974741/ |
| 14:10.36 | abrotman | oh, run apt-get update, does it work? |
| 14:10.41 | maxcell_ | abrotman, no valid opengpg data found |
| 14:10.43 | maxcell_ | let me see |
| 14:11.17 | maxcell_ | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/974742/ |
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| 14:11.52 | abrotman | try the command without sudo |
| 14:12.01 | maxcell_ | ok |
| 14:12.03 | abrotman | gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 2B90D010 ; gpg --export 2B90D010 | apt-key add - |
| 14:12.43 | galex-713_ | My syslog is 4Gio full of âfirmware: failed to load rt2860.binâ |
| 14:12.48 | galex-713_ | and is still filling |
| 14:12.49 | abrotman | so install the firmware |
| 14:12.53 | galex-713_ | it is non-free |
| 14:13.05 | maxcell_ | abrotman, it says im not in sudoers file |
| 14:13.06 | abrotman | then unload the module |
| 14:13.12 | galex-713_ | and the computer is not a laptop, it could be connected through wire |
| 14:13.14 | abrotman | maxcell_: there shouldn't be a sudo command in there |
| 14:13.46 | maxcell_ | abrotman, but it ask for the password |
| 14:14.03 | maxcell_ | abrotman, automatically |
| 14:14.12 | abrotman | which command are you running? |
| 14:14.13 | maxcell_ | abrotman, without putting sudo |
| 14:14.13 | galex-713_ | abrotman, wait it works, why is this module loaded if the wifi is not supported by free software? |
| 14:14.21 | maxcell_ | abrotman, gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 2B90D010 ; gpg --export 2B90D010 | sudo apt-key add |
| 14:14.24 | galex-713_ | how can I do so at next boot it doesnât load this module? |
| 14:14.29 | galex-713_ | can I uninstall it? |
| 14:14.29 | abrotman | maxcell_: take sudo out of there |
| 14:14.31 | maxcell_ | abrotman, sorry |
| 14:14.38 | maxcell_ | run as root? |
| 14:14.49 | abrotman | dpkg: tell galex-713_ about blacklist |
| 14:14.51 | abrotman | maxcell_: yes |
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| 14:16.25 | dury | rephlexie, are you there |
| 14:16.41 | maxcell_ | abrotman, the command have worked as before but look at this output: "gpg: key 7638D0442B90D010: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (8/jessie) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" not changed" |
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| 14:17.01 | galex-713_ | abrotman, ok thank you, I reboot to test and Iâll say you, thank you again |
| 14:17.12 | maxcell_ | abrotman, does it saying that this key is from jessie and not for buster? |
| 14:17.22 | abrotman | maxcell_: but you have buster sources |
| 14:17.40 | maxcell_ | well i install buster |
| 14:19.23 | dury | rephlexie, so beaglebone boards can even perfectly run stretch or what? or better continue with jessie |
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| 14:19.56 | rephlexie | dury, https://beagleboard.org/latest-images |
| 14:20.03 | galex-713_ | abrotman, it worked! thank you |
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| 14:20.06 | rephlexie | I have jessie on mine with no issues. |
| 14:21.04 | dury | rephlexie, right I see |
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| 14:22.17 | dury | rephlexie, what do you do with your BBB? I mean do you use it for what? |
| 14:22.34 | maxcell_ | abrotman, you have no idea what to do to solve this right? |
| 14:22.49 | maxcell_ | abrotman, i'm completly lost |
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| 14:23.34 | dury | rephlexie, for web-server |
| 14:23.51 | abrotman | maxcell_: LANG=C apt-get update ; pastebin please |
| 14:24.14 | dury | rephlexie, just like a normal computer? |
| 14:25.13 | maxcell_ | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/974744/ |
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| 14:26.44 | abrotman | dpkg: no_pubkey |
| 14:26.45 | dpkg | Seeing "There are no public keys available"? This means that the Release file has been signed by a key which you do not have. If it's signed by another key which you do have, you can ignore the warning. Otherwise, you can add the key listed *AFTER* checking the validity of the signatures on the key. The current key will be linked at http://ftp-master.debian.org/ |
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| 14:29.03 | maxcell_ | abrotman, how do i know if i have or not the key, and if i dont how can i add the key listed? |
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| 14:29.20 | maxcell_ | im so bad at this |
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| 14:29.47 | abrotman | can you install other packages? does it give the same error? |
| 14:31.23 | dury | abrotman, |
| 14:31.29 | dury | sorry |
| 14:31.30 | maxcell_ | abrotman, seems like i can apt-get install anything |
| 14:31.53 | abrotman | can or cannot ? |
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| 14:33.26 | maxcell_ | abrotman, i can install everthing i can find in apt-get |
| 14:33.36 | maxcell_ | abrotman, the errors only on apt-get update |
| 14:33.47 | dury | abrotman, is there any problem to install Skype and Spotify in Stretch using 32 bit architecture ? |
| 14:33.55 | abrotman | I've never used those on linux |
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| 14:34.11 | abrotman | maxcell_: you might want to try a different mirror, see if that helps |
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| 14:34.50 | jolt | I think you could mix the architectures, but I've only tried that with 32bit apps on 64 bit arch |
| 14:35.08 | maxcell_ | abrotman, ok i will try that |
| 14:35.22 | maxcell_ | thanks |
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| 14:35.42 | dury | jolt, that's what I mean, though |
| 14:37.36 | dury | jolt, Skype need 32bit architecture even Spotify that's what I know by now I don't if it changes |
| 14:38.17 | dury | if it changed I mean |
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| 14:38.53 | dury | jolt, see? |
| 14:39.00 | mtn | dury, have you looked at the wiki? I know it tells how to install skype, don't know about spotify |
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| 14:40.28 | dury | mtn, do you know that wiki url, please? |
| 14:40.58 | mtn | dury, sorry, I would have to look it up. go to google and type: debian wiki skype |
| 14:41.31 | dury | mtn, all right... one sec. |
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| 14:44.05 | dury | mtn, yeah great 64bit skype for linux |
| 14:44.24 | Adalid_Negro | hello, I want to ask about a issue in my keyboard distribution after a upgrade from jessie |
| 14:44.35 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 14:44.35 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 14:46.23 | Adalid_Negro | I am a spanish speaker and the accents are now in a weird way appearing in a single position like that "avi´on", and I was tried to reconfigure locales and setxkbmap and the issue persist |
| 14:47.12 | dury | hey guys...when someone says that they want ask about an issue... means a problem. is that right? |
| 14:47.34 | maxcell_ | I'm soffering with GPG errors on buster: heres the output |
| 14:47.38 | maxcell_ | http://paste.debian.net/974749/ |
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| 14:48.16 | dury | just to keep my english up... that's all though |
| 14:48.19 | maxcell_ | abrotman, btw i have changed the repository but saddly didn't work |
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| 14:49.34 | dury | mtn, are you running "stretch"? |
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| 14:50.05 | mtn | dury, I have it installed |
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| 14:51.24 | dury | mtn, I want to know if it's more stable and reliable and even worth than jessie? |
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| 14:51.58 | mtn | dury, there is only one way to tell if you like it more or if it is stable for you. that is to test it. |
| 14:52.29 | Silmaril | Hi guys, i've meet a 'nice' bug on wheezy (upgrade impossible for now) and, as it look like, only on amd64 arch ... i've apache2 that is logging ~1% of the requests with a hostname instead of a IP address (in %h) |
| 14:52.52 | dury | mtn, didn't test it yet |
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| 14:53.03 | Silmaril | and to make things much more funny, the dns resolution is also wrong many times .. |
| 14:53.30 | Silmaril | hum, might not be amd64 vs i386 |
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| 14:54.07 | Silmaril | there is also a difference in the worker i think |
| 14:54.15 | Silmaril | hum, no, neverming |
| 14:54.29 | Silmaril | nevermind, same work |
| 14:54.29 | petn-randall | Silmaril: Reading the docs to logging and the %h parameter I don't see an issue. |
| 14:55.25 | dury | mtn, what about drivres for nvidia geforce gt 650m graphic card, easy? |
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| 14:55.36 | Silmaril | petn-randall: well, i know "%h" *might* log the host in that form |
| 14:55.38 | password2 | Hi |
| 14:55.48 | password2 | does debian keep a trash folder? |
| 14:55.57 | mtn | dury, look at the wiki. it explains things like that |
| 14:56.00 | Shadur | "debian" does not. |
| 14:56.10 | Silmaril | it is however not supposed to do this when HostnameLookups is off |
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| 14:56.40 | password2 | does gnome? |
| 14:56.42 | Shadur | Various graphical file managers may or may not, as their individual design decisions and/or configured settings. |
| 14:56.52 | petn-randall | Silmaril: So "HostnameLookups" *is* off, and it's still logged as hostname? |
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| 14:57.11 | password2 | urg i deleted files in gone on my phone , but it seems to have moved it somewhere else |
| 14:57.15 | password2 | gnome |
| 14:57.36 | Shadur | I /think/ Nautilus defaults to one but I rarely use a graphical file manager to begin with. |
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| 14:57.37 | mtn | password2, yes, gnome has a trash folder. you can see it in the file manager |
| 14:57.39 | dury | mtn, how would it be nvidia geforce gt debian |
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| 14:57.49 | mtn | dury, look at the wiki. it explains things like that |
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| 14:58.21 | password2 | mtn: where does it defaults to? |
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| 14:58.48 | dury | mtn, sorry, just need a little help that's all |
| 14:59.07 | Silmaril | petn-randall: yup, but not at all times |
| 14:59.22 | mtn | password2, look in the file manager. I am not sure of the exact file path |
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| 15:00.00 | LtL | password2: try ./.local/share/Trash |
| 15:00.21 | Silmaril | and not on all servers (it's a shared hosting env we built, with "dynamic pages" handled on i386 VMs, and static content on amd64 VMs (because created more recently) |
| 15:00.41 | Silmaril | the logging issue/weirdness happens only on the static content servers ... |
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| 15:01.53 | password2 | mtn: I'm not at a debian pc atm |
| 15:02.04 | password2 | but i did find it , thanx |
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| 15:10.26 | pierrot | I'm about to upgrade Debian from 8 to 9. Does this tutorial look fine for you? https://tecadmin.net/upgrade-debian-8-jessie-to-debian-9-stretch/# |
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| 15:12.17 | missmbob | pierrot: usee the official https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
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| 15:13.38 | pierrot | I have third-party software like Skype, Google Chrome and Hangouts. Apart from removing their respositories from sources.list, should I remove those software as well? |
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| 15:14.07 | abrotman | they can likely remain |
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| 15:17.11 | pierrot | Thanks missmbob and abrotman |
| 15:17.53 | missmbob | huh. my wiki password of quite a few years stopped working |
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| 15:18.23 | petn-randall | missmbob: caps lock / keyboard layout? |
| 15:18.45 | missmbob | petn-randall: keypass |
| 15:19.22 | petn-randall | *keepass |
| 15:19.31 | missmbob | yeah :P |
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| 15:20.07 | petn-randall | wonders if it's pronounced kee-pass or keep-ass. |
| 15:20.29 | abrotman | ke-ep-ass |
| 15:21.20 | missmbob | seriously guys...can anyone log into wiki? |
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| 15:23.56 | Silmaril | petn-randall: to make thing a bit more "fun" (and buggy), here is an exemple of log on which i've added the value of the X-Forwarded-For field which is set by my LB system |
| 15:23.59 | Silmaril | 112.152.127.78.rev.sfr.net - - [04/Jul/2017:16:58:16 +0200] "HEAD /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 403 - "[...]" "Mozilla/5.0 [...]" 90.94.254.134 |
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| 15:24.33 | Silmaril | and ... the reverse of 90.94.254.134 is ... not xxx.sfr.net but "134.254.94.90.dynamic.jazztel.es." ... |
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| 15:27.28 | Silmaril | i will switch to %a at least it should be less problematic |
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| 15:28.37 | gnunix | Hi, Today I installed Debian 9, and i came from Manjaro Linux, i really liked the color scheme of that, and I was wondering if I am able to 'copy' that style of manjaro into Debian GNU/Linux. |
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| 15:28.41 | gnunix | Is that possible? |
| 15:29.09 | mtn | gnunix, those are called themes and yes you can |
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| 15:34.19 | gnunix | min: How? i can't seem to find a manjaro like theme for Gnome |
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| 15:36.02 | carmelo10 | hi |
| 15:36.10 | jhutchins | gnunix: manjaro probably defaults to KDE like mandrake/mandriva did. You could see if you can find a KDE theme that matches. (You can actually extract the theme from manjaro, but that requires some knowledge of how themes are put together.) |
| 15:36.20 | mtn | gnunix, you would need to find out which theme manjaro uses and then find that them. I have done it before |
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| 15:36.38 | mtn | them/then |
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| 15:37.00 | gnunix | jhutchins: Manjaro uses xfce, but i read that xfce themes can apply to gnome? |
| 15:37.17 | mtn | gnunix, yes, xfce is xfce as in any distro |
| 15:37.38 | carmelo10 | I would like to know whether to install the netinst version of debian 9 on usb key I should use just these two commands |
| 15:37.48 | carmelo10 | cp debian.iso /dev/sdb |
| 15:37.51 | carmelo10 | sync |
| 15:38.15 | missmbob | gnunix: really just ask then what theme they use by default. that's all you need to know |
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| 15:38.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
| 15:38.34 | Eryn_1983_FL | should i use the jenkins in the offical repo of debian or should i install their version? |
| 15:38.34 | missmbob | carmelo10: as sudo, yes |
| 15:38.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am running old stable jessie.. |
| 15:38.40 | Silmaril | carmelo10: dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb should work, not sure about cp .. |
| 15:38.44 | gnunix | missmbob: will do. |
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| 15:38.59 | missmbob | Silmaril: cp is what the install guide recommends |
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| 15:39.15 | Silmaril | ok |
| 15:39.31 | Silmaril | never ever used in 17 years |
| 15:39.41 | Silmaril | we learn something every days |
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| 15:40.33 | carmelo10 | cp is what install guide recommends, is equivalent to dd? |
| 15:40.43 | petn-randall | Silmaril: it's because the default block size with dd is too small, and it's also longer to type. That's why we recommend 'cp' in here. ;) |
| 15:41.28 | missmbob | easier not to make mistakes |
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| 15:41.51 | carmelo10 | petn-randall Just those two commands are enough? |
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| 15:43.14 | petn-randall | carmelo10: Assuming /dev/sdb is your USB stick, yes. Double-check that it's not some other device, though. |
| 15:43.22 | Silmaril | petn-randall: ok, yes it's clearly simpler |
| 15:43.57 | Silmaril | in never though cp could write on a block device (without replacing said device ^^) |
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| 15:45.19 | petn-randall | Silmaril: it /does/ replace all its contents, though :) |
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| 15:45.35 | carmelo10 | Perfect, and if I want to format the pendrive from scratch, should I recreate the partition table with gparted? |
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| 15:45.57 | petn-randall | carmelo10: yes, that will destroy the installation image, though. |
| 15:47.09 | Silmaril | petn-randall: obviously ;) |
| 15:47.12 | jhutchins | carmelo10: There is no need to format or partition it before copying the image to it, the image replaces all partitioning and formatting. |
| 15:47.34 | carmelo10 | petn-randall I ask you why canceling it with dd i would not get the inaccessible pendrive |
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| 15:48.47 | petn-randall | carmelo10: Can you rephrase? I don't understand what you mean. |
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| 15:50.29 | carmelo10 | petn-randall Using the command dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb I'm afraid to make the pendrive inaccessible |
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| 15:53.30 | petn-randall | carmelo10: It will just be formatted. You can simply re-create a new partition table, partitions and filesystems on it with gparted. |
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| 15:54.03 | carmelo10 | petn-randall new partion table is equivalent to dd? |
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| 15:55.07 | petn-randall | carmelo10: no. |
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| 15:58.06 | kion | Sometimes when shutting down, I get a message that "a stop job is running...." and takes about a minute, I checked my logs when shutting down and found that a Gnome Terminal server gets started and tracker extract tries to create a file... |
| 15:58.11 | kion | both take a long time |
| 15:58.24 | kion | here is the messages in my log |
| 15:58.35 | kion | https://pastebin.com/yzqSj7dT |
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| 15:58.57 | carmelo10 | You can directly copy netinst's iso with cp on the pen drive, because the iso is hybrid? |
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| 16:01.55 | polaris | I have the same issue, sometimes when I shut down there is "a stop job is running..." |
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| 16:02.34 | somiaj | polaris: does the job eventaully stop, some jobs just take some time to properly shutdown. |
| 16:02.48 | somiaj | and that is systemd pausing until that job finishes its shutdown process. |
| 16:03.04 | somiaj | libvirt is one here that takes a bit longer than normal to shut down since it has to shut down all the vms |
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| 16:03.53 | jhutchins | carmelo10: You can copy any iso image directly to a flash drive (or burn it to a disk). |
| 16:04.11 | jhutchins | carmelo10: A bootable image will then be bootable from that device. |
| 16:04.51 | kion | somiaj, Yes, eventually it stops, after a while, but most ofthen than not, my computer will shutdown in about 2 or 3 seconds, but whenever that message appears anywhere to 1 or 2 minutes |
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| 16:05.37 | fr3kzy | hi there |
| 16:05.50 | somiaj | kion: the job is not properly shutting down. If you think there is an error you need to invesigate the service that isn't shutting down and try to figure out why. Logs can help. |
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| 16:06.31 | carmelo10 | jhutchins fily system how to format it? ext4, fat32, ntfs ..? |
| 16:06.35 | somiaj | kion: it could also be the job was in the middle of something and just needs the extra time to finish what it was doing to it can shut down properly. |
| 16:06.37 | fr3kzy | can i ask something?! when i try to vpn my network and then join the hexchat the hexchat does not working ! why? |
| 16:06.47 | kion | somiaj, I did 'Sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog' and then proceded to shutdown... the logged text was |
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| 16:07.03 | kion | https://pastebin.com/yzqSj7dT |
| 16:07.08 | somiaj | carmelo10: the debian .iso come with a very special partition table and filesystem, you do not need to format anything. |
| 16:07.27 | somiaj | fr3kzy: do you join the vpn network after having hexchat up? |
| 16:08.12 | carmelo10 | somiaj Then unallocated? |
| 16:08.13 | somiaj | kion: what is the actual job/service that is the culprit, I can't deduce that form what you pated. |
| 16:08.15 | fr3kzy | i cant join vpn network when hexchat is working |
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| 16:08.31 | fr3kzy | and when i join the vpn network i cant join hexchat |
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| 16:09.00 | somiaj | fr3kzy: when you connect to a vpn it changes all your routes. So any current estabilished connenctions will not work whiel the vpn is up. Happens here to with irssi for me. |
| 16:09.00 | polaris | Yes somiaj, the job eventually stops. |
| 16:09.11 | kion | 3 20:34:53 pollux systemd[931]: Started GNOME Terminal Server. |
| 16:09.11 | kion | Jul 3 20:35:30 pollux dbus-daemon[947]: Activating via systemd: service name='org.gnome.Terminal' unit='gnome-terminal-server.service' |
| 16:09.27 | somiaj | polaris: that is systemd doing what it is designed to do. Waiting for all jobs to correctly stop before shutting down, this way jobs don't get killed. |
| 16:09.29 | kion | somiaj, that is the first jump in time |
| 16:10.15 | kion | somiaj, the second happens with "tracker-extract[1232]: unable to create file '/run/user/1000/dconf/user': Permission denied. " |
| 16:10.15 | fr3kzy | what happens with my anonymity?! |
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| 16:10.42 | kion | somiaj, it seems that the latter was reported as a bug.. |
| 16:11.07 | kion | Debian Bug report logs - #732209 |
| 16:11.08 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/732209 in libpam-systemd (open, wontfix, stretch, jessie): «unable to create file '/run/user/1000/dconf/user': Permission denied»; severity: important; opened: 2013-12-15; last modified: 2017-06-30. |
| 16:11.09 | somiaj | fr3kzy: I can't quite follow what order you are doing things in. But if you first bring up the vpn network, you should be able to use hexchat after wards (unless for somereason your vpn network doesn't allow connenction to irc) |
| 16:11.34 | fr3kzy | thank you |
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| 16:17.39 | jhutchins | carmelo10: It does not matter how the device is formatted, the formatting will be overwritten. |
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| 16:17.54 | jhutchins | carmelo10: An iso image file is a complete filesystem, already 'formatted'. |
| 16:18.36 | jhutchins | carmelo10: You can even mount it and treat it like an ordinary filesystem (although iso9669 is read-only). |
| 16:18.44 | jhutchins | iso 9660 |
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| 16:21.05 | carmelo10 | jhutchins Do I know this, but the pendrive partition must be unallocated before executing the cp command? |
| 16:21.31 | carmelo10 | Even if it is overwritten? |
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| 16:22.05 | missmbob | carmelo10: no |
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| 16:23.28 | petn-randall | carmelo10: You've already asked if those two commands you mentioned are all that is needed to prepare the USB stick, and the answer was yes. There are no further steps involved in that process. |
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| 16:25.31 | jhutchins | carmelo10: No, the copy will overwrite anything on the device. |
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| 16:26.24 | carmelo10 | So initially the pendrive can also be unallocated |
| 16:26.37 | jhutchins | carmelo10: It doesn't matter. |
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| 16:30.47 | carmelo10 | jhutchins ok |
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| 16:35.28 | carmelo10 | I have a last question, i have been having an annoying bug for some time that freeze the debian operating system |
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| 16:36.17 | nvz | presses alt+sysrq+k |
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| 16:37.34 | carmelo10 | this is the bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=844523 |
| 16:37.37 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/844523 in xserver-xorg-core (open, security): «Debian xserver freeze»; severity: important; opened: 2016-11-16; last modified: 2017-06-18. |
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| 16:38.39 | carmelo10 | I also posted backtrace, can it suffice? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?att=2;bug=844523;filename=backtrace_xorg.txt;msg=23 |
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| 16:42.24 | jhutchins | carmelo10: Bugreport implies that upgrading to current relase will fix the problem. |
| 16:44.15 | carmelo10 | jhutchins Are you sure it was solved? |
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| 16:44.53 | jhutchins | carmelo10: No, that's up to you. |
| 16:45.16 | carmelo10 | Also to understand what is due |
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| 16:49.05 | vadimkolchev | Ok, i managed to locate problem with my USB dongle. Starting wpa_supplicant and the dhclient I am able to connect. Then I see that periodically my dongle communicates to router and sends passkey again. It works couple of times until suddenly I get conn_failed. At this point only disabling and enabling wpa_supplicant helps. Loses connection in a minute or so. Could you please help? |
| 16:49.14 | jhutchins | carmelo10: It is not necessary to reinstall in order to upgrade. |
| 16:49.32 | jhutchins | carmelo10: If the bug persists in stretch you shoudl re-report it. |
| 16:49.32 | vadimkolchev | Using firmware rt2870.bin, loaded properly |
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| 16:50.04 | carmelo10 | My question is: is the backtrace I posted can suffice to correct the bug if it has not been solved yet? |
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| 16:50.50 | jhutchins | carmelo10: That's not something we can answer. |
| 16:51.04 | jhutchins | carmelo10: You can wait and see what the maintainer's response is. |
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| 16:52.19 | carmelo10 | jhutchins ok,I hope the times are not too long, as I have pointed it out as critical |
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| 16:53.11 | jhutchins | ,v xorg-server |
| 16:53.12 | judd | No package named 'xorg-server' was found in amd64. |
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| 16:54.24 | jhutchins | ,v xxerver-xorg-core |
| 16:54.25 | judd | No package named 'xxerver-xorg-core' was found in amd64. |
| 16:54.30 | jhutchins | ,v xerver-xorg-core |
| 16:54.32 | judd | No package named 'xerver-xorg-core' was found in amd64. |
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| 17:00.12 | TheWild | hello |
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| 17:01.20 | TheWild | I'm trying to do a network installation (mini.iso) on a 8 GB SD card. The problem is that partition manager does not list it. |
| 17:01.53 | TheWild | though I can run the shell and the device is visible under /dev/sdb |
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| 17:02.49 | TheWild | ah dammit, the write protection was on. My bad, my bad... |
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| 17:05.12 | petn-randall | TheWild: Glad we could help :) |
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| 17:06.48 | TheWild | ;) not so fast, I had to restart the installation. |
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| 17:07.14 | password4 | Hi |
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| 17:08.03 | password4 | the install dvds , I want to permanently mounts them for apt-get , what is most elagant way? |
| 17:08.21 | password4 | can I merg the pools of each or just extract it? |
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| 17:11.42 | password4 | or is it better to mount the isos and point apt0get to them? |
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| 17:17.50 | LtL | password4: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#CD-ROM |
| 17:18.28 | password4 | LtL: apt-cdrom does not work |
| 17:18.40 | password4 | it might work if i had cdroms |
| 17:19.19 | petn-randall | password4: It does work if you add the ISOs to your /etc/fstab. |
| 17:19.25 | password4 | merging pools seemed to fail |
| 17:19.54 | password4 | Ideally I'd not have to mount anything |
| 17:20.12 | petn-randall | password4: Or just read the wiki page. It tells you how to add isos. |
| 17:20.36 | password4 | petn-randall: i dont like that solution all that much |
| 17:20.39 | petn-randall | It's in the first paragraph of that link. |
| 17:20.56 | password4 | I already mounted my isos |
| 17:21.03 | petn-randall | password4: Which solution? Adding the isos with apt-cdrom? |
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| 17:21.37 | password4 | i just used mount , and then pointed apt0get to the mount dirs |
| 17:22.16 | password4 | Would ahve been nice if i could extract the packages and not even have to mount anything |
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| 17:23.43 | password4 | also is there an online place where i can search what packages is in stable/testing? |
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| 17:24.41 | missmbob | https://packages.debian.org/ |
| 17:25.00 | vadimkolchev | Okay, seems like my wifi dongle not working due to some bug in wpa_supplicant. Installed jessie version, and it works great now. I installed it with dpkg, so how can I pin it to prevent update? |
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| 17:25.51 | password4 | urg , I need to fix my installation of debian |
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| 17:26.35 | password4 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:27.13 | missmbob | buster isnt even supported here |
| 17:27.21 | missmbob | !debian-next |
| 17:27.21 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 17:28.29 | password4 | is it only testing whose release files expires? |
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| 17:28.47 | missmbob | ask the testing people |
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| 17:30.00 | jhutchins | vadimkolchev: Does the stretch version not work properly? |
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| 17:30.11 | password4 | meh |
| 17:30.36 | vadimkolchev | jhutchins, it is not, already filed a bug. After downgrade my wifi worked immediately |
| 17:30.40 | password4 | If only i can get the installer for stable to work |
| 17:30.43 | TheWild | petn-randall: yes, that was it. |
| 17:30.47 | jhutchins | !pinning |
| 17:30.47 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from <sources.list>. Bugs are explained at https://web.archive.org/web/20121017070250/http://carlo17.home.xs4all.nl/howto/debian.html#errata . If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system, ask me about <backports> instead. https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
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| 17:31.26 | missmbob | password4: you want to use buster, fine. just ask for help in the right place. it's simple. that's all we're saying. |
| 17:31.29 | vadimkolchev | jhutchins, yes, it explains how to pin with apt and so, but even after I use dpkg it asks me to update, I am not sure why. |
| 17:31.38 | password4 | missmbob: eh |
| 17:31.54 | password4 | who said i want to use buster? |
| 17:32.23 | jhutchins | vadimkolchev: I'm not familiar with the devian pinning system, but check the preferences reference, there should be a way. |
| 17:32.31 | missmbob | password4: what you pasted. we're not stupid. please follow channel policy |
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| 17:32.59 | jhutchins | missmbob: It is not channel policy to refuse to help with testing, especially if the problem is generic (which this is not). |
| 17:33.03 | password4 | missmbob: I'm only on buster because i cant get stable to onstall on my computer |
| 17:33.30 | jhutchins | password4: The thing is that the people in #debian-next are more likely to know about a current problem with the testing repos. |
| 17:33.56 | password4 | If had a semi ok IRC client , i would be there already |
| 17:34.21 | jhutchins | password4: Good luck. I would guess it's a temporary issue and will fix itself in a few hours. |
| 17:34.33 | password4 | but since i dont have the bw to install a decent one and its not in the 7GB of package i have i cant get it |
| 17:34.43 | jhutchins | password4: irssin in screen ftw! |
| 17:34.50 | password4 | jhutchins: what issue? |
| 17:35.20 | password4 | I dont think the isos on my disc would update themselves |
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| 17:35.36 | jhutchins | password4: Ah, well, update them then. |
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| 17:35.48 | password4 | i cant |
| 17:35.51 | jhutchins | password4: Make sure your system time is correctly configured. |
| 17:36.09 | password4 | it takes me 24hours to dl an iso |
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| 17:36.22 | password4 | at the minimum |
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| 17:36.30 | jhutchins | password4: There's always mail order. |
| 17:36.42 | missmbob | libraries. universities |
| 17:36.45 | password4 | not to here |
| 17:37.01 | jhutchins | password4: I guess you're just sol then. |
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| 17:37.29 | password4 | ok |
| 17:37.42 | password4 | let me ask about stable |
| 17:38.01 | password4 | I tried several times to install it this weekend from a flash |
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| 17:38.25 | password4 | i basically always make it to the menu options asking about gui install or regular install |
| 17:38.57 | password4 | and when i select an option al that happens is the screen flashes very very briefly and the menu is presented to me again |
| 17:39.18 | jhutchins | password4: Sounds like a bad image. |
| 17:39.26 | password4 | i verified the iso and used two different flash drives |
| 17:39.29 | missmbob | or miscopied |
| 17:39.49 | jhutchins | password4: You could always learn how the release file is updated and checked and remaster the isos. |
| 17:39.53 | password4 | i tried about 6 times to copy to flash using dd |
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| 17:40.15 | vutral | bla |
| 17:40.35 | password4 | jhutchins: in an idea world i would just be able to tell apt to ignore the dates |
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| 17:40.38 | Jonny135 | Hi there! I looking for a help regarding a 3G modem used with wvdial on a debian computer. in Wvdial I have a error: Modem not responding |
| 17:40.45 | Jonny135 | I checked and the /dev/ttyUSB0 are present |
| 17:40.51 | Jonny135 | About the config in wvdial, I used a configuration that was working in the past |
| 17:40.57 | Jonny135 | Anyone has an idea what I could check to narrow the problem? |
| 17:40.57 | password4 | imho security should not block functional |
| 17:41.24 | password4 | i just dont know how to check if dd correctly wrote to a usb flash |
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| 17:42.14 | password4 | afaik there is no way? |
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| 17:44.40 | password4 | where do i set configuration settings for apt0get? |
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| 17:46.16 | Jonny135 | password4 you wrote something on a usb flash with dd? |
| 17:46.44 | password4 | was i not supposed to? |
| 17:47.06 | Jonny135 | And you want to check if you wrote? |
| 17:47.13 | password4 | thats how I've always written debian install isos to flash |
| 17:47.25 | password4 | i want to check if its correct |
| 17:47.51 | password4 | because I'd much rather be on stable |
| 17:48.05 | Jonny135 | you could read from the flash, save in a file and check the file |
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| 17:48.22 | password4 | how? |
| 17:48.29 | password4 | oh use dd again? |
| 17:48.31 | Jonny135 | like dd if=/dev/sdXx of=temp.bin |
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| 17:48.58 | password4 | ie dd if=iso of=/dev/flash ; dd if=flash of=compareiso ? |
| 17:49.14 | Jonny135 | the temp.bin should be the same as your source file that you wrote on the stick |
| 17:49.33 | password4 | aparently flahs drives appends 0s when you do that |
| 17:49.36 | pie3 | which books you have read? and which books you likke more? |
| 17:49.57 | Jonny135 | you can use diff for checking the file |
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| 17:50.18 | password4 | i don follow |
| 17:50.36 | password4 | ffuuuu |
| 17:50.51 | Jonny135 | What is the exact cmd that you use for writing the usb stick? |
| 17:51.13 | abrotman | !ig |
| 17:51.29 | password4 | dd if=./debian-9.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso of=/dev/sdc |
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| 17:52.04 | Jonny135 | for checking: dd if=/dev/sdc of=compareiso.bin |
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| 17:52.39 | Jonny135 | diff debian-9.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso compareiso.bin |
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| 17:53.45 | abrotman | why use the DVD? |
| 17:54.07 | password4 | sorry I've answered that question too many times now |
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| 17:56.29 | Jonny135 | but you should read only the amount of byte that are in the iso image.. |
| 17:56.50 | Jonny135 | If the usb stick is bigger you will read some random data from the stick |
| 17:57.25 | password4 | Jonny135: do you think they make 4.7GB flash drives |
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| 17:57.31 | password4 | or that i own one? |
| 17:57.55 | Jonny135 | 4.7GB I don't think, but bigger ye |
| 17:57.56 | Jonny135 | s |
| 17:58.02 | password4 | yeah |
| 17:58.10 | password4 | 8Gb is what i have |
| 17:58.26 | Jonny135 | the stick must be bigger that the data... |
| 17:58.31 | abrotman | did you issue a sync before yanking it from the slot? |
| 17:58.50 | password4 | ahhh finally , i wish the person that made the alert sounds for gnome gets a cramp or something |
| 17:59.12 | Jonny135 | What is the exact size of the iso file? |
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| 17:59.27 | password4 | actually its 3.9GB |
| 17:59.34 | Jonny135 | in byte |
| 17:59.44 | password4 | 3804708864 |
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| 18:00.27 | Jonny135 | dd if=/dev/sdc of=compareiso.bin bs=4096 count=928884 |
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| 18:00.57 | Jonny135 | in this way the readed file is exactly the same size of the original and you can compare with diff |
| 18:01.39 | password4 | ok now writing to flash |
| 18:02.07 | missmbob | abrotman: asked the only relavent question |
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| 18:05.47 | password4 | tl:dr i dont have mcuh bw |
| 18:06.24 | abrotman | that wasn't the question he meant, and the netinst is more bandwidth-efficient than the DVD installer |
| 18:06.36 | password4 | abrotman: not for me |
| 18:06.58 | password4 | dvd i can dl from someone elses internet |
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| 18:07.17 | abrotman | and that still wasn't the question he meant |
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| 18:07.44 | abrotman | but please, keep being argumentative |
| 18:08.43 | password4 | then what was the question? |
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| 18:09.06 | abrotman | "sorry, I've asked that question too many times" |
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| 18:10.26 | abrotman | The install guide says you should use cp, and you should issue a sync when the operation is complete. |
| 18:10.40 | password4 | where the install guide? |
| 18:10.46 | abrotman | debian.org |
| 18:10.55 | password4 | on the front page? |
| 18:11.00 | abrotman | did you check |
| 18:11.06 | password4 | briefly |
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| 18:11.19 | password4 | then i reverted back to what my memory told me to do |
| 18:11.30 | TheWild | hello |
| 18:11.37 | TheWild | well, I was here some time ago |
| 18:11.50 | password4 | Hi TheWild |
| 18:11.53 | TheWild | what will happen if I choose "C - no localization"? |
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| 18:12.47 | abrotman | TheWild: nothing awful in most cases, but you probably want some |
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| 18:20.13 | Jonny135 | I have a 3G modem connected to my computer. The modem is not responding to the AT cmq. What could be the reason? |
| 18:20.35 | Jonny135 | I tryed initialy with wvdial, but after also with minicom |
| 18:20.54 | Jonny135 | What I could check more? |
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| 18:26.14 | bmdube | Jonny135: does the sim have a pin? |
| 18:26.26 | Jonny135 | Nope |
| 18:26.41 | bmdube | is it usb? |
| 18:26.45 | Jonny135 | yes |
| 18:26.51 | bmdube | does it show up with lsusb? |
| 18:26.55 | Jonny135 | yes |
| 18:27.15 | Jonny135 | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 12d1:140c Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E180v |
| 18:27.30 | Arianna | What is the URL for downloading jessie on DVD via jigdo? |
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| 18:27.51 | bmdube | Jonny135: anything in the logs when wvdial fails? |
| 18:28.16 | Jonny135 | I'm just thinking something right now, my device is the K3715 and not the E180v.... it could be that the two device have the same product id? |
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| 18:29.33 | bmdube | Jonny135: could be mode switching? |
| 18:29.55 | Jonny135 | I also checked this, but it seam to be in right modus |
| 18:30.16 | bmdube | ok, then being identified as the wrong model might be it |
| 18:30.17 | Jonny135 | wvdial say: Modem not responding |
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| 18:32.56 | bmdube | Jonny135: so it's not recognized as a cdrom when plugged in? |
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| 18:34.43 | Jonny135 | https://pastebin.com/VGp1TY1P |
| 18:35.01 | Jonny135 | This is the exact output of dmesg when I plug in the device |
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| 18:35.19 | Jonny135 | To my it seam everything fine |
| 18:35.24 | password4 | brb , gonna try and reinstall , again |
| 18:35.24 | Jonny135 | To me |
| 18:35.47 | password4 | Jonny135: thanx , diff tells me files are identical |
| 18:35.57 | bmdube | Jonny135: try eject /dev/sr1 |
| 18:36.20 | bmdube | Jonny135: looks like cdrom mode |
| 18:36.34 | password4 | now to try and install from it |
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| 18:37.16 | dionysus69 | I cant seem to install package as basic as nginx-extras |
| 18:37.29 | dionysus69 | Depends: perlapi-5.20.2 but it is not installable |
| 18:37.36 | dionysus69 | Depends: libperl5.20 (>= 5.20.2) but it is not installable |
| 18:37.36 | dionysus69 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.49 | bmdube | Jonny135: sorry, eject /dev/sr0 |
| 18:37.56 | nkuttler | ,v libperl5.20 |
| 18:37.57 | judd | Package: libperl5.20 on amd64 -- jessie: 5.20.2-3+deb8u6; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.20.2-3+deb8u7; jessie-security: 5.20.2-3+deb8u7 |
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| 18:38.17 | nkuttler | dionysus69: paste.debian.net apt-cache policy |
| 18:38.59 | dionysus69 | http://paste.debian.net/974792/ |
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| 18:40.04 | Jonny135 | I ejected, but nothing happend and in wvdial it still not responding |
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| 18:40.18 | nkuttler | dionysus69: did you attempt to upgrade to stretch, and not complete it? |
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| 18:40.27 | nkuttler | dionysus69: apt-cache policy libperl5.20 |
| 18:40.30 | dionysus69 | no this is stock stretch netinstaller |
| 18:40.35 | dionysus69 | I installed it today |
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| 18:40.56 | nkuttler | dionysus69: that doesn't make sense. you have jessie sources |
| 18:40.57 | dionysus69 | libperl5.20: |
| 18:40.57 | dionysus69 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.57 | dionysus69 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.57 | dionysus69 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.59 | Jonny135 | and eject say that /dev/sr0 is already not mounted |
| 18:41.09 | dionysus69 | I only have passenger jessie source |
| 18:41.17 | dionysus69 | passenger doesnt have stretch source |
| 18:41.22 | nkuttler | ,v nginx-extras |
| 18:41.24 | judd | Package: nginx-extras on amd64 -- wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy4; wheezy-backports: 1.6.2-5+deb8u2~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 1.6.2-5+deb8u4; jessie: 1.6.2-5+deb8u4; jessie-backports: 1.10.3-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 1.10.3-1; sid: 1.13.1-2; buster: 1.13.1-2 |
| 18:41.24 | dionysus69 | does it mean I am physically unable to install it ? :D |
| 18:41.26 | bmdube | Jonny135: is /dev/sr0 still there? |
| 18:41.31 | Jonny135 | yes |
| 18:41.35 | dionysus69 | or nginx-extras |
| 18:41.42 | nkuttler | dionysus69: mh, apt-cache policy nginx-extras |
| 18:41.59 | nkuttler | dionysus69: pastebin please |
| 18:42.09 | bmdube | Jonny135: you might have to get a utility to switch modes |
| 18:42.13 | dionysus69 | http://paste.debian.net/974794/ |
| 18:42.18 | dionysus69 | this is some chinese for me |
| 18:42.33 | bmdube | Jonny135: search for your device and see what comes up |
| 18:42.34 | Jonny135 | bmdube: you mean usb_modeswitch? |
| 18:42.42 | nkuttler | dionysus69: well, yeah... what's this passenger thing anyway... |
| 18:42.45 | bmdube | Jonny135: yes that or something like it |
| 18:42.47 | nkuttler | dionysus69: sounds like some third party repo? |
| 18:42.53 | towo` | frankendebian |
| 18:42.56 | nkuttler | right |
| 18:43.05 | Jonny135 | I have and already try to play with, but without success. |
| 18:43.07 | dionysus69 | nkuttler: it is a web service with ruby support, it is go to solution in ruby on rails community |
| 18:43.14 | dionysus69 | nkuttler: yep it is third party |
| 18:43.22 | towo` | and out of support |
| 18:43.23 | nkuttler | dionysus69: you'll have to ask them for support. you're not running debian any more |
| 18:43.30 | Jonny135 | Because my device is detect as ttyUSB0.... |
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| 18:43.35 | nkuttler | dionysus69: we can help you to remove that stuff if you like |
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| 18:43.37 | dionysus69 | well I have to use third party |
| 18:43.44 | nkuttler | dionysus69: good luck then |
| 18:43.50 | bmdube | Jonny135: all I can say is go through your logs carefully and do some searching |
| 18:44.03 | towo` | dionysus69, but you have lost the support by debian |
| 18:44.10 | dionysus69 | nkuttler: ok can you help remove this from apt? |
| 18:44.12 | towo` | dionysus69, have fun |
| 18:44.14 | dionysus69 | I ll try installing from source |
| 18:44.31 | nkuttler | dionysus69: remove it from your sources.list, apt-get update, aptitude remove ~o |
| 18:44.43 | dionysus69 | it is in /etc/apt/sources.d/passenger.conf or something |
| 18:44.52 | nkuttler | sure |
| 18:45.53 | Jonny135 | dmdube: I have the impression that is something related to the faced that my modem is registred as wwan0 |
| 18:46.20 | Jonny135 | in some way that ttyUSB0 is already busy and I cannot access directy with minicom and wvdial |
| 18:46.47 | dionysus69 | nkuttler: anyways after removing this, now I am was able to install both nginx-extras and passenger without a problem, just for information :) |
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| 18:47.22 | nkuttler | dionysus69: that's just how it's supposed to be |
| 18:49.09 | bmdube | Jonny135: yes maybe it's supposed to use wifi tools on wwan0 and not modem commands, I don't know |
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| 18:50.48 | Jonny135 | bmdube: I need to figure out. I never used before the wwan0 interface... I just read that is like the ppp0, but when the modem has not connection established |
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| 18:51.05 | kmgtb | hi friends |
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| 18:51.57 | GJdan | Question... its been a long time since I had to worry about a debian dist upgrade. What do I do about jessie-updates now? I have a couple servers that need to stay on jessie for awhile longer and they report that jessie-updates InRelease is expired |
| 18:52.45 | bmdube | Jonny135: do you have wireless-tools? you can try iwlist |
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| 18:53.07 | nkuttler | GJdan: jessie-updates is obsolete |
| 18:53.20 | GJdan | nkuttler: so I just drop it? |
| 18:53.38 | nkuttler | GJdan: probably, yeah, but not jessie/updates |
| 18:54.09 | kmgtb | currently i try to install drbl to use clonezilla se. In the instructions to install drbl is written that the network manager have to uninstalled. But if i uninstall the network manager all settings i set for my to network cards will be lost. How can i configure the network? |
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| 18:54.35 | GJdan | nkuttler: or do you mean that I only needed jessie/updates in the first place and that jessie-updates was obsolete even when jessie was stable? |
| 18:55.06 | nkuttler | GJdan: no |
| 18:55.16 | nkuttler | !tell GJdan about jessie-updates |
| 18:55.19 | GJdan | ah, okay. I'll do more reading, but it is un-needed now |
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| 18:57.46 | GJdan | ah, I see so the basic packages go in repo/debian jessie security patches go through security.debian.org jessie/updates and jessie-updates is like a more stable version of backports |
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| 19:10.00 | Jonny135 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.18 | Jonny135 | bmdube: with iwconfig I got this result: wwan0 no wireless extensions. |
| 19:10.58 | dirae | Guys, when I run "lshw -numeric -C display" I get to devices. The first is Intel and the second (which is unclaimed) is "Tpaz XT [Radeon R7 M260/M264 / M340/M360 / M440/M445].. So which driver should I download? and how to set it up! |
| 19:14.14 | ozzloy | when i run my computer on my operating system it doesn't send an internet to the email. my question is, how do i connect my element to the leads of communication? |
| 19:14.34 | pie3 | do you have plan for whole year activity? |
| 19:14.48 | ozzloy | let me check |
| 19:14.49 | Jonny135 | bmdube: I try to configure via /etc/network/interefaces |
| 19:15.28 | ozzloy | pie3, thanks, that was it |
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| 19:15.40 | Jonny135 | bmdube: I'm following a bit this article: https://vog.github.io/wwan-helper/ |
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| 19:17.57 | __Ozy__ | I'm trying to build an i386 package on an amd64 system (Stretch). I was trying the sbuild route, but kept running into issues with it not auto-installing packages. I then went down the route of debuild by using "apt-get build-dep -a i386 <pkg> && debuild -a i386 -uc -us -b". This is failing out at "dh_strip: i686-linux-gnu-objcopy" with no such file or directory. I have installed build-essential and g++-multilib on top of the build-dep command. |
| 19:18.28 | __Ozy__ | Additionally, I saw statements about crossbuild-essential on one of the pages, but there does not appear to be one for i386. I've also noticed an error about "specified GNU system type does not match CC system type" and if I run readelf on the .so that has been built, it shows "ELF64" even though it was put in i386-linux-gnu, so I doubt I'm building correctly with debuild in the first place. |
| 19:19.57 | __Ozy__ | Anyone have any suggestions on the proper way to rebuild a 32-bit library on a 64-bit machine from debian's sources and build environment? |
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| 19:20.31 | password4 | HI! |
| 19:20.41 | ozzloy | HI! |
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| 19:26.54 | bmdube | Jonny135: searching for "no wireless extensions" should help, in general your kernel needs to know how to talk to the device |
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| 19:46.45 | Guest26303 | ok, so I did a network installation on a 8 GB SD card. Installed also GRUB there (Debian wanted to install it on HDD by default). No errors, restarting. |
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| 19:47.31 | Guest26303 | But debian is not starting. All I see is reading from SD card for some time but there's still just a blinking cursor. |
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| 19:53.54 | SpeakerToMeat | Does backports (jessie-backports) have a source repository? |
| 19:53.58 | SpeakerToMeat | deb-src ? |
| 19:54.34 | missmbob | yes (still use -t jessie-backports) |
| 19:54.46 | SpeakerToMeat | Ok, thanks.... |
| 19:54.54 | THS | Currently xfce4-settings has no support for libinput but it can be enabled via compile flag. How do I notify the maintainers to enable this because libinput is becoming the new default. |
| 19:55.10 | SpeakerToMeat | is there something like apt-get source in apt? can't find it in the manual |
| 19:55.15 | SpeakerToMeat | or I'm stupid... |
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| 19:56.09 | SpeakerToMeat | I guess for how it works, maybe not... or from how I get it works |
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| 19:57.46 | THS | SperakerToMeat: It is in the manpages for apt-get.... |
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| 19:57.59 | jelly | SpeakerToMeat, you do need to enable those deb-src repo lines first |
| 19:58.09 | jelly | dpkg, tell SpeakerToMeat about deb-src |
| 19:58.21 | jelly | dpkg, tell SpeakerToMeat about package rebuild |
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| 19:58.51 | __Ozy__ | dpkg, tell __Ozy__ about package rebuild |
| 19:59.21 | SpeakerToMeat | thsnks |
| 19:59.43 | jhutchins | SpeakerToMeat: You're right, nothing about getting source packages in the apt manpage. |
| 20:01.19 | jhutchins | __Ozy__: You can also /msg dpkg <factoid> |
| 20:01.41 | __Ozy__ | Cool. Thanks. |
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| 20:01.46 | SpeakerToMeat | jhutchins: if I'm not mistaken, apt is not monolithic like apt-get it's basically a cli UI to a system, in that case the source mechanism (downloading to current directory, unpacking, applying patches) is doable but not nicely to a split system |
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| 20:02.20 | nvz | hmm.. the info about source is in apt-get manpage.. wth doesnt apy just link there that manpage is a useless stub |
| 20:03.07 | jhutchins | nvz: For a manpage to be good, somebody has to write it well. |
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| 20:03.32 | nvz | oh apt is an actual command? heh when the hell did that happen? :P |
| 20:04.21 | SpeakerToMeat | nvz: I found it first on ubuntu, it caused me some revulsion and then noticed it existed in my jessie too |
| 20:04.43 | hexnewbie | That's so you can have similar, but slightly but surprisingly incompatible implementations, that do the same thing but not quite. |
| 20:05.07 | hexnewbie | aptitude breaks more, apt breaks most |
| 20:05.44 | nvz | SpeakerToMeat: i been using debian since 2.2 potato, back im 2003 and i never heard of this before |
| 20:05.51 | hexnewbie | s/breaks (\S+)/has \1 courage/g |
| 20:06.34 | missmbob | it was in wheezy |
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| 20:07.29 | SpeakerToMeat | hexnewbie: I still love aptitude |
| 20:07.32 | hexnewbie | aptitude uninstalls packages you don't need without asking, apt removes the archives as well |
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| 20:07.46 | SpeakerToMeat | true |
| 20:07.48 | __Ozy__ | has more, courage apt? |
| 20:07.59 | SpeakerToMeat | Well it doesn't ask but it tells, and you can stop it |
| 20:08.06 | SpeakerToMeat | I've held unused packages in aptitude before |
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| 20:09.32 | humbot | wut |
| 20:09.42 | ozzloy | __Ozy__, i think "aptitude has more courage, apt has most courage" |
| 20:09.56 | hexnewbie | The autoremove is fun when you accidentally 'yes | aptitude install package1 package2' on 100 servers (common typo). ^o^ |
| 20:10.16 | humbot | aptitude has an ncurses front too |
| 20:10.16 | __Ozy__ | ozzloy: I was making fun since S+ would grab the , as well |
| 20:10.29 | ozzloy | ah |
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| 20:12.08 | hexnewbie | __Ozy__: It's a perfectly cromulent grammar. |
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| 20:16.54 | Jonny135 | bmdube: It's working! |
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| 20:18.07 | Jonny135 | I installed libqmi-utils |
| 20:19.06 | bmdube | Jonny135: nice |
| 20:19.28 | Jonny135 | bmdube: Now I have to figure out how to configure nicely |
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| 20:20.18 | Jonny135 | bmdube: At the moment I have to use 2 cmd: qmi-network /dev/cdc-wdm0 start and dhclient wwan0 to making working |
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| 20:20.44 | Jonny135 | It should be a better way to configure |
| 20:20.54 | Jonny135 | And have only one cmd |
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| 20:23.36 | Jonny135 | bmdube: I added a in /etc/network/interfaces: pre-up qmi-network /dev/cdc-wdm0 start |
| 20:23.45 | Jonny135 | post-down qmi-network /dev/cdc-wdm0 stop |
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| 20:24.05 | Jonny135 | and the wwan0 is configured as dhcp |
| 20:24.13 | Jonny135 | :) |
| 20:24.32 | Jonny135 | It's all week that I'm turning around this problem... |
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| 20:29.36 | ozzloy | http://git.deb.at/w/pkg/ejabberd.git/blob/refs/heads/stretch:/debian/README.Debian#l151 what does "with systemd >= 218" mean? how do i convert systemd to a number? |
| 20:29.45 | nvz | Jonny135: may i ask where you're from? |
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| 20:30.15 | Jonny135 | Switzerland |
| 20:31.07 | hexnewbie | ozzloy: That way of writing denotes the version of the package in question, in most cases |
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| 20:31.14 | ozzloy | oooh |
| 20:31.15 | ozzloy | ok |
| 20:31.47 | ozzloy | i would have gotten it if it were something like "systemd >= 2.1.8" |
| 20:31.57 | nvz | Jonny135: oh, cool. I take interst in language and your english is great but you used a strange turn of phrase "turning around thisss problem" i couldnt place. |
| 20:31.57 | ozzloy | or even 2.18 |
| 20:32.29 | hexnewbie | systemd outswam Chrome and Firefox years ago |
| 20:32.51 | dax | ozzloy: yeah, systemd just uses an integer for versioning |
| 20:33.35 | jelly | ,v systemd |
| 20:33.36 | judd | Package: systemd on amd64 -- wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u5; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-17+deb8u7; jessie-backports: 230-7~bpo8+2; stretch: 232-25; buster: 233-9; sid: 233-10 |
| 20:34.06 | jelly | so "with systemd >= 218" means "later than jessie" |
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| 20:34.56 | ozzloy | http://git.deb.at/w/pkg/ejabberd.git/blob/refs/heads/stretch:/debian/README.Debian#l140 is "the ejabberd.service file" the one at /etc/systemd/system/ejabberd.service ? or is there another one somewhere? |
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| 20:35.33 | ozzloy | dax, interesting. i guess that makes sense |
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| 20:38.01 | jmcnaught | ozzloy: systemd units in /etc/systemd take priority over the ones in /lib/systemd (which are provided by packages) |
| 20:38.59 | ozzloy | https://paste.debian.net/974807/ here are the one's find has found so far |
| 20:39.14 | ozzloy | oic |
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| 20:39.42 | ozzloy | so i should edit /etc/systemd so it takes precedence and survives upgrades, yes? |
| 20:40.00 | ozzloy | i think that's how it works |
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| 20:40.15 | jmcnaught | ozzloy: yes. it's more fully explained in systemd.unit(5) |
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| 20:41.28 | ozzloy | k |
| 20:41.33 | jmcnaught | ozzloy: if you only want to override some directives for /lib/systemd/system/foo.service you can create /etc/systemd/system/foo.service.d/MyChanges.conf (this is what running 'systemctl edit foo.service' would do) |
| 20:42.23 | ozzloy | jmcnaught, oh awesome, thanks that saves me a bunch of reading |
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| 20:42.40 | qqumber | what is the social channel? |
| 20:42.52 | qqumber | I have a quesiton about sex actually, but I have to ask it somewhere. |
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| 20:42.53 | ozzloy | #debian-offtopic maybe |
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| 20:43.17 | ozzloy | or maybe a doctor or friends irl |
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| 20:45.28 | ozzloy | jmcnaught, so it sounds like `systemctl edit ejabberd.service` is what i want |
| 20:48.09 | nvz | ozzloy: may i inquire on a side note what versions show in dpkg -l libc6 lsbbase |
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| 20:50.35 | nvz | ozzloy: dpkg -l libc6 sb-base |
| 20:50.43 | nvz | ozzloy: dpkg -l libc6 lsb-base |
| 20:50.49 | nvz | man i type like crap |
| 20:51.15 | pie3 | anyone using bitcoin/etherum |
| 20:51.38 | nvz | pie3: #bitcoin |
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| 20:52.43 | nvz | pie3: or you mean the ircd? |
| 20:52.54 | pie3 | what is ircd? |
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| 20:52.59 | nvz | heh |
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| 20:53.16 | nvz | pie3: be more specific or /msg alis list bitcoin |
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| 20:56.34 | ozzloy | nvz, hey! yeah, i'll do that last one and paste it |
| 20:57.31 | ozzloy | https://paste.debian.net/974809/ output of dpkg -l libc6 lsb-base |
| 20:58.57 | ozzloy | pie3, i have and use bitcoin |
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| 21:00.16 | nvz | ozzloy: hmm i had suspected you may have some kind of frankenstien distro going on but those core packages match mine |
| 21:00.30 | ozzloy | jmcnaught, so i did 'systemctl edit ejabberd.service' and put in the content here http://git.deb.at/w/pkg/ejabberd.git/blob/refs/heads/stretch:/debian/README.Debian#l153 and tried systemctl ejabberd start and it failed |
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| 21:00.54 | ozzloy | nvz, i recently upgraded to 9, maybe i botched it. totally plausible |
| 21:01.39 | nvz | ozzloy: its equally plausible to me that systemd is a mess but you hit a lot of bugs for a stable release |
| 21:02.30 | ozzloy | well maybe |
| 21:02.32 | jmcnaught | ozzloy: the first places to look would be "systemctl status ejabberd" and "journalctl -u ejabberd" |
| 21:03.08 | ozzloy | nvz, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=867135 the first response here seems to suggest that it's not a bug with the package, but my responsibility to correctly configure it |
| 21:03.46 | ozzloy | jmcnaught, i'll try that out |
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| 21:03.56 | ozzloy | thanks for the help! |
| 21:04.13 | nvz | ozzloy: debian packages are suppose to install cleanly, if they require config they are suppose to install disabled until you do so |
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| 21:07.03 | teraflops | really? |
| 21:07.15 | nyk2005 | I've got a sheevaplug running debian working fine for years, but after this reboot it hangs in u-boot: the command "ubi part nand0,2" results in error 28 (no enough physical eraseblocks). Any possibility to fix the UBIFS? |
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| 21:09.12 | nvz | the maintainers suggestion involves modifying a core system package which means either ozzloy changed something in systemd config or the maintainer built a package that violates debian package policy or is just plain broken |
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| 21:11.46 | nvz | nyk2005: i'd also ask in #armbian where they have more experience with such hardware but its sounding like your nand may be failing or out of space |
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| 21:14.38 | dondelelcaro | nvz: it might also be that it tries to use epam if it exists, but fails, but would normally work with the default configuration |
| 21:14.49 | dondelelcaro | (but moreinfo is definitely needed) |
| 21:16.04 | ozzloy | output of systemctl status and journalctl: https://paste.debian.net/974815/ |
| 21:16.33 | ozzloy | apparently ejabberd not found |
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| 21:17.21 | ozzloy | side question, is there a way to put line numbers on paste.debian.net ? |
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| 21:17.42 | ozzloy | idk what pam is and don't need it |
| 21:17.53 | ozzloy | i'd be fine getting rid of it if that's an option |
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| 21:18.13 | ozzloy | also thanks again for all the help |
| 21:18.21 | teraflops | ozzloy: it looks like your snippet for overriding ejjaberd service is just borked |
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| 21:18.46 | jmcnaught | ozzloy: it usually has line numbers but sometimes it doesn't. Probably a bug. It looks like you at least have syntax errors in /etc/systemd/system/ejabberd.service.d/override.conf |
| 21:18.57 | tm4 | What about packages.debian.org? When searching, it shows only sid. |
| 21:19.11 | codebam | when I start dhcpcd.service it doesn't have any error, but dhcpcd-gtk says that it's not running? |
| 21:19.31 | codebam | and it doesn't get me an ip address either |
| 21:19.51 | codebam | I looked at it's systemctl status, looks file |
| 21:19.55 | codebam | *fine |
| 21:20.55 | ozzloy | k, i'll paste override.conf. the only thing i think might be a typo is blank line at eof |
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| 21:21.24 | teraflops | codebam: it looks like dhcpcd-gtk just notifies things |
| 21:21.43 | codebam | yes, correct. it's notifying me that dhcpcd isn't running |
| 21:21.50 | teraflops | so check if youre getting ip address |
| 21:21.54 | codebam | I'm not |
| 21:22.12 | codebam | to get an IP I had to manually run dhcpcd as root |
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| 21:22.27 | teraflops | codebam: I dont get your issue then |
| 21:22.36 | codebam | the issue is that the service isn't working |
| 21:22.37 | codebam | at all |
| 21:22.45 | teraflops | dhcpcd? |
| 21:22.50 | codebam | yes |
| 21:23.01 | codebam | I enabled and started it with systemd |
| 21:23.08 | codebam | but it doesn't work |
| 21:23.13 | ozzloy | ejabberd override https://paste.debian.net/974819/ |
| 21:23.19 | codebam | no logs as far as I can see |
| 21:23.26 | teraflops | then why did you talk about the gtk thingy? |
| 21:23.39 | codebam | that's how I could tell it wasn't running properly |
| 21:23.47 | codebam | even though it has a pid |
| 21:23.57 | teraflops | you can use the fine logs/journal too |
| 21:24.20 | codebam | I checked it's status in systemd |
| 21:24.26 | codebam | which would have showed me it's logs |
| 21:24.30 | teraflops | nope |
| 21:24.32 | codebam | no? |
| 21:24.35 | teraflops | nope |
| 21:24.38 | codebam | oh |
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| 21:24.48 | teraflops | journalctl is for logs |
| 21:25.02 | codebam | but systemd reads logs when it checks the status |
| 21:25.05 | codebam | no? |
| 21:25.13 | ozzloy | should i create /etc/systemd/system/ejabberd.service and put "[Service]\nPrivateDevices=false\nNoNewPrivileges=false" in addition to the override.conf file? |
| 21:25.20 | laserburn | is there really no php7 apcu package for stretch? |
| 21:25.30 | teraflops | codebam: journalctl is for logs |
| 21:25.53 | codebam | okay |
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| 21:26.31 | jmcnaught | ozzloy: try removing/commenting lines 2 and 4 in your override. (only use the =false lines) |
| 21:26.44 | ozzloy | jmcnaught, k |
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| 21:27.18 | galex-713_ | Hi |
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| 21:28.21 | codebam | this is the error it's throwing https://ptpb.pw/gZfd |
| 21:28.21 | nvz | ozzloy: paste.debian.net automatically puts line numbers |
| 21:28.36 | galex-713_ | My ethernet driver is e1000e, and I noticed regularely my connection stops to work (if I ping I get no answer), even if I disconnect and reconnect the ethernet cable, but if I modprobe -r e1000e and modprobe e1000e just after it works again: what could it be? how to fix that such that I donât have anymore to do that with modprobe (and potentially so I donât regularely get disconnected from everything)? |
| 21:28.55 | codebam | do I remove dhcp from my interface line? |
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| 21:29.36 | jmcnaught | codebam: why are you switching to dhcpcd from ifupdown? |
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| 21:30.00 | laserburn | anyone know why this is missing? https://packages.debian.org/stretch/php-apcu |
| 21:30.29 | nvz | galex-713_: you should check dmesg for info when this happens but it could possibly be your systems bios putting it to sleep if its onboard nic. id check bios settings in that case |
| 21:30.37 | codebam | jmcnaught: I want to use wpa_supplicant instead of networkmanager |
| 21:30.47 | codebam | how do I do that using ifupdown |
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| 21:31.20 | ozzloy | jmcnaught, removed those lines without false, tried starting ejabberd, failed, here's systemctl and journalctl output https://paste.debian.net/974820/ |
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| 21:31.47 | jmcnaught | codebam: i would just use NetworkManager for wifi personally, but look at https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line you shouldn't need dhcpcd at all |
| 21:31.50 | galex-713_ | nvz, when internet stops working I do dmesg and then I reconnect and post on paste.debian the output so you see it? |
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| 21:32.32 | ozzloy | nvz, not always. for example, i see no line numbers on this one https://paste.debian.net/974820/ but now that you mention it, i have seen line numbers on pastes here before |
| 21:33.00 | jmcnaught | ozzloy: right, so why doesn't /usb/sbin/ejabberd exist? apt-file doesn't list it for me actually. Have you looked in /usr/share/doc/ejabberd for NEWS and README.Debian and changelog files? |
| 21:33.06 | codebam | jmcnaught: hmm okay, but with dhcp enabled in interfaces I wasn't getting assigned an address |
| 21:33.13 | jmcnaught | i don't use ejabberd, maybe it works different now |
| 21:33.50 | jmcnaught | codebam: can you show your /etc/network/interfaces file in a paste? Also what problem was NetworkManager causing? |
| 21:34.01 | nvz | galex-713_: i suppose you could do that if it doesnt tell you anything you can make sense of |
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| 21:34.24 | galex-713_ | nvz, ok, yet why would my bios do that? |
| 21:34.32 | ozzloy | jmcnaught, i'll go look for those. i would assume it's because apt-get install ejabberd failed |
| 21:34.34 | codebam | jmcnaught: https://ptpb.pw/TaD- and nothing really, I just don't need it. |
| 21:35.26 | ozzloy | jmcnaught, there is no ../doc/ejabberd/ dir |
| 21:35.56 | jmcnaught | ozzloy: do you have broken packages? |
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| 21:36.53 | tm4 | Hi. What about packages.debian.org? When searching, it shows only sid. |
| 21:37.54 | ozzloy | oh hmm... maybe it works now? https://paste.debian.net/974822/ |
| 21:38.12 | ozzloy | possibly i forgot whether i was in the state of failed install or removed |
| 21:38.15 | jelly | tm4, what are you searching for? |
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| 21:38.49 | nvz | ozzloy: i think it wont show them on lines > 80 chars for readabilit in text browsers like im using |
| 21:39.21 | ozzloy | i'm going to uninstall, remove override.conf, install again and see what happens |
| 21:39.38 | tm4 | for example: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xfce |
| 21:39.41 | codebam | jmcnaught: any ideas? |
| 21:39.42 | nvz | galex-713_: some bios have these options ive seen them before, they sleep many devices when the system is inactive |
| 21:39.48 | ozzloy | nvz, oic |
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| 21:40.18 | galex-713_ | nvz, but my system is active and I use it and have my irc client running, so why would it do that? |
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| 21:40.55 | nvz | ozzloy: this is why we like paste.debian.net it works without ssl, which is faster, interface is clean, and it can download easily using cli or scripts |
| 21:41.08 | tm4 | jelly, for example: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xfce |
| 21:41.36 | nvz | galex-713_: idk i said it was a maybe i was giving you ideas since the information you provided is not enough to give you a definitive solution |
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| 21:41.52 | jmcnaught | codebam: if you had no real problem with NM but just didn't like it for some reason, it seems you're just creating problems for yourself. My idea is go back to the default, working solution with NM. Otherwise you should make a paste of your wpa_supplicant.conf file (with SSID and credentials redacted) |
| 21:41.53 | nvz | galex-713_: it could be a bad cable, it could be aliens.. idk |
| 21:42.13 | galex-713_ | nvz, ok |
| 21:42.34 | jelly | tm4, looks like you found an issue, if it's not reported already, please file a bug against "www.debian.org" I think |
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| 21:43.06 | nvz | galex-713_: if it were me and it was onboard id check and disable any bios power saving and id look at dmesg for clues |
| 21:43.37 | jelly | tm4, I can confirm there should be more versions for eg. "xfce4" package shown in different releases, not just sid |
| 21:43.50 | nvz | galex-713_: that was me giving you personal advice where i dont have enough info to give you professional/technical advice |
| 21:43.59 | jelly | ,v xfce4 |
| 21:44.01 | judd | Package: xfce4 on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.8.0.3; jessie: 4.10.1; buster: 4.12.3; stretch: 4.12.3; sid: 4.12.3 |
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| 21:46.04 | galex-713_ | nvz, ok, now Iâm waiting for this bug to happen again |
| 21:46.25 | nvz | galex-713_: linux is a hackers kernel and how it behaves on various hw is unpredictable, what i do know is it doesnt give two shits about your bios, in fact it often uses bios space as ram, and ignores it completely.. which means anything the bios does at a hw level linux often wont know about. i'd seen these power management options cause issues like this when they shouldnt |
| 21:46.31 | codebam | jmcnaught: I don't like that I can't control networkmanager fully without using nm-applet |
| 21:46.45 | codebam | and I don't want to use nm-applet |
| 21:46.56 | jmcnaught | codebam: you tried nmcli and nmtui? |
| 21:46.58 | galex-713_ | nvz, ah ok |
| 21:47.08 | tm4 | jelly, already working. |
| 21:47.17 | galex-713_ | it really doesnât happen one day more without me learning a new issue of instability of the linux kernel |
| 21:47.22 | codebam | like I said, can't control it fully. I mean with nmcli you can, but it's not exactly user friendly |
| 21:47.27 | nvz | galex-713_: dmesg is a kernel buffer if it happened recently since boot it may still be in the buffer |
| 21:47.51 | galex-713_ | nvz, yeah but it might be hidden behind lot of other stuff no? |
| 21:48.23 | codebam | I like wpa_cli, and wpa_gui |
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| 21:48.37 | nvz | galex-713_: if a lot has happened, in a working system dmeg buffer wont fill up.. it only writes there when a hw change or a crash of a driver occurs |
| 21:48.39 | codebam | both work perfectly when they're configured correctly |
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| 21:48.45 | jmcnaught | codebam: well like i said, it also just works. There are others that hang out here who use wpa_supplicant + ifupdown, if you're still trying in an hour try asking your question again |
| 21:48.52 | teraflops | codebam: nmtui |
| 21:49.04 | codebam | okay, thanks jmcnaught |
| 21:49.22 | codebam | teraflops: doesn't work properly |
| 21:49.34 | teraflops | you mean there? |
| 21:49.47 | codebam | hmm? |
| 21:49.54 | galex-713_ | nvz, yeah but changes have happenned after the last time this error occured: I did unplug the ethernet cable and unload/reloaded the module (in an unknown order and with an unknown number of times: I forgot :/) |
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| 21:50.23 | nvz | galex-713_: a bad cable would show by a change in link status occuring, a bad driver will show a traceback, etc |
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| 21:52.50 | laserburn | what's wrong with this? https://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages |
| 21:53.24 | th0r | laserburn, the colon is backwards |
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| 21:53.56 | jmcnaught | laserburn: others have been having problems, one person here was goign to report it |
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| 21:54.09 | laserburn | lol th0r |
| 21:54.19 | laserburn | thanks jmcnaught |
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| 21:55.14 | nvz | laserburn: you could make a list if you need one for some reason |
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| 21:55.57 | laserburn | that's such a #debian answer |
| 21:56.37 | nvz | laserburn: thats all you can do, report the issue or make a list which is pretty simple |
| 21:56.54 | nvz | a list of all packages isnt very useful in my opinion |
| 21:57.15 | laserburn | I'm sorry, are you seriously telling me to compile a list of every package available in stretch for myself because the one on the debian website is empty right now for some reason? |
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| 21:57.28 | laserburn | ok man |
| 21:57.34 | laserburn | ignored |
| 21:57.34 | jelly | laserburn, or just wait until it's fixed |
| 21:57.44 | laserburn | useless fucking troll |
| 21:57.45 | jelly | laserburn, or report the bug. |
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| 21:58.32 | nvz | if you just ignored me as a useless troll for telling you the only two ways to resolve your issue thats you loss |
| 21:58.46 | jelly | laserburn, your attitude won't help solve the tech issue you're seeing. Making a bug report against "www.debian.org" package and explaining the symptoms, will. |
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| 21:59.39 | jelly | nvz, want to bet someone somewhere wrote about packages.d.o being broken, and now kids are creeping in |
| 22:00.06 | nvz | heh. i couldve given a real simple oneliner to build a list from a mirror |
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| 22:01.58 | codebam | any ideas at what might be causing ifupdown to fail to bring up my interface? https://ptpb.pw/cCap |
| 22:02.06 | sophiya | errors |
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| 22:02.50 | nvz | codebam: i can give you some ideas of why someone may not want to follow that link |
| 22:03.06 | codebam | nvz: it's a paste |
| 22:03.14 | codebam | add .txt to the end |
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| 22:04.02 | nvz | yes but i dont know that, which is why i tell people to use paste.debian.net its familiar and its clean for my textmode browser, and fast cause its not ssl |
| 22:04.36 | jmcnaught | paste.debian.net is available on https |
| 22:04.40 | sophiya | you should not be using ssl anyway, nvz |
| 22:04.46 | codebam | nvz: paste.debian has more of an overhead than a plain site with nothing on it than text |
| 22:04.48 | nils_ | is there anyone I could bribe/motivate to update the backport for linux-image-amd64 (4.9) on jessie? I'm looking for a way to mitigate the stack clash issue and would prefer not to start building my own kernels. |
| 22:05.04 | jmcnaught | ,kernels |
| 22:05.05 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.11.0-trunk-686 (4.11.3-1~exp1); sid: 4.11.0-1-686 (4.11.6-1); buster: 4.11.0-1-686 (4.11.6-1); stretch: 4.9.0-3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u2); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.30-2~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.89-2) |
| 22:05.07 | sophiya | nvz: plus, TLS should be used regardless |
| 22:05.17 | sophiya | the overhead is tiny |
| 22:05.37 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell nils_ about bdo kernel |
| 22:06.13 | nvz | codebam: that may be so but some of us like me are on an opilite using a hotspot and console only and we have tools setup to view paste.debian.net and will be unlikely to follow strange links just to see the context of your issue |
| 22:06.29 | codebam | nvz: you can literally use curl |
| 22:06.39 | nils_ | jmcnaught, yeah the most recent version is from June 14th, not containing the fix while the version in stretch does. |
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| 22:07.04 | nvz | codebam: im just telling you this stuff so you understand why someone may not respond.. use more context in your question and dont use strange links |
| 22:07.15 | codebam | nvz: ptpb is quite common |
| 22:07.19 | codebam | they have a nice api as well |
| 22:07.24 | codebam | I use it for taking screenshots |
| 22:07.37 | codebam | https://ptpb.pw |
| 22:09.37 | nvz | Cabanossi: all i can gather from your paste is that you got some rube setup i cant see.. you need to break it down and do each command step by step to see where the problem lies and why wpa_supplicant is failing |
| 22:09.43 | nvz | codebam: ^ |
| 22:10.09 | jmcnaught | nils_: i see. if you mean this https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-1000364 than it seems like it's not fixed in stretch either. You can use this site to search by bug number or package name (if you weren't already aware of it) |
| 22:10.34 | codebam | nvz: okay, how can I know what command is being executed by run-parts? |
| 22:10.54 | codebam | because the command it shows takes arguments, I'm not sure what the arguments are |
| 22:10.56 | missmbob | p.d.n got a 4yr certificate from letsencrypt? wow. i thought they only did 3months. okay |
| 22:11.19 | nvz | see this is why i wouldnt want to answer your vague question. i know even less about your setup than you do |
| 22:11.52 | nils_ | jmcnaught, yeah the patch is only applied in stretch security, the patch is in upstream 4.9.34 which I guess they backported to 4.9.30 |
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| 22:12.44 | nvz | codebam: i dont have a clue about this i'm using plain ol wicd-daemon here its simple.. for me to try solve your problems you gotta provide us with a clue as to what your setup is and how it got that way |
| 22:12.47 | codebam | nvz: I'm just trying to get wpa_supplicant to work with ifupdown and dhcp |
| 22:13.03 | teraflops | codebam: may I ask why? |
| 22:13.05 | jmcnaught | missmbob: the certificate i get from paste.debian.net expires 04/09/17 |
| 22:13.13 | codebam | teraflops: I don't like the alternatives |
| 22:13.36 | nvz | codebam: if that were the case youd say i ran wpa_supplicant foo bar baz and it gave error foo bar baz unrecognized options.. |
| 22:13.54 | codebam | hmm? |
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| 22:14.28 | teraflops | codebam: what are you doing exactly? if you pasted it I missed |
| 22:14.29 | codebam | I've done this before, on gentoo they use network hooks though. I think I just did it with dhcpcd |
| 22:14.37 | nvz | all i know is something generated what clearly looks like a script error with no useful information and you pasted it |
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| 22:15.44 | codebam | teraflops: I'm configuring /etc/network/interfaces (https://ptpb.pw/L0xe.txt) to work with wpa_supplicant |
| 22:15.58 | nvz | now i gotta pry info out of you that you dont even seem to have. i said go step by step.. manually run the commands or tell us how you come to have a script doing this and show us said script |
| 22:16.04 | codebam | nvz: I've pasted all the config files I have |
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| 22:16.42 | codebam | if I had more information to give you I would give you it |
| 22:17.10 | codebam | I can paste my wpa_supplicant.conf, but that's not part of the error message, wpa_supplicant is running fine |
| 22:17.14 | codebam | the issue is with ifupdown |
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| 22:17.34 | codebam | so if you want a config file stop complaining and tell me what you need |
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| 22:18.29 | teraflops | codebam: you want to connect to eduroam using /e/n/i ? |
| 22:18.50 | codebam | no |
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| 22:19.28 | teraflops | than I dont get what you want sorry |
| 22:19.32 | codebam | I want ifupdown to start wpa_supplicant and negotiate dhcp |
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| 22:19.49 | teraflops | I mean, good luck, I dont see the point |
| 22:20.20 | th0r | codebam, http://paste.debian.net/974828/ |
| 22:20.44 | th0r | codebam, the uncommented lines are use a static ip, but the commented lines fetch an ip by dhcp |
| 22:20.47 | teraflops | I use NM and never had issues doing roaming or changing of netkork automagically |
| 22:21.10 | codebam | th0r: oh cool, I'll check that out. let me try that, thanks |
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| 22:21.36 | jmcnaught | codebam: what did "ifdown --force wlp3s0" do? |
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| 22:23.12 | codebam | jmcnaught: just tried, it successfully turned off the interface. afterwards running ifup worked. I got a dhcp address but I think it was only because I have dhcpcd running |
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| 22:24.44 | jmcnaught | codebam: ifup doesn't normally use dhcpch, stop that service and try to ifdown and ifup your interface again |
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| 22:25.12 | codebam | yeah I was right, no errors at all, but when running ifup with dhcpcd killed it doesn't negotiate for dhcp |
| 22:25.29 | jmcnaught | codebam: by the way your paste "https://ptpb.pw/cCap" actually said to use that --force command⦠|
| 22:26.00 | codebam | jmcnaught: I mean it stopped it anyways? |
| 22:27.02 | codebam | so it works, but ifupdown isn't negotiating dhcp, I cant figure out why |
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| 22:28.43 | jmcnaught | codebam: in another terminal you can run "journalctl -f" and it will show you log messages as they happen |
| 22:28.52 | codebam | oh hmm, okay when I changed my /etc/network/interfaces back so that it was doing dhcp (my bad) I get the same error as before. (the file is identical to all the pastes I've done) |
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| 22:29.42 | jmcnaught | codebam: for those of us not paying very close attention, please make a new paste with the updated /e/n/interfaces and the command you used and complete output |
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| 22:33.41 | bolt | my mcelog contains this: http://paste.debian.net/974830/ and "dmidecode -t memory" shows this: http://paste.debian.net/974831/ <-- how can I figure out which stick of ram is bad? the mcelog says "bank 11". there are 8 slots on the motherboard. i am confused. |
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| 22:35.22 | LtL | bolt: dual channel slots so 11 of 16? |
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| 22:35.36 | VentGrey | Hello debian people |
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| 22:36.05 | VentGrey | has anyone managed to .deb the kernek 4.11? since the kernel-package is not available on Debian stretch |
| 22:36.17 | bolt | LtL: so bank 6? |
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| 22:36.44 | VentGrey | it's being a pain in the ass to compile it with make deb-pkg |
| 22:36.50 | LtL | bolt: that would be my guess yeah |
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| 22:40.50 | VentGrey | I tried using this command on the documentation but it seems that something fails |
| 22:40.51 | VentGrey | make deb-pkg LOCALVERSION=-falcot KDEB_PKGVERSION=$(make kernelversion)-1 |
| 22:41.16 | remo1 | where can I find loggining up /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 22:42.42 | jmcnaught | remo1: the initial attempt to bring up the interfaces would be logged under the networking service so "journalctl -u networking.service" will show that. Logs in Debian then get forwarded to syslog, which puts them in /var/log |
| 22:43.12 | VentGrey | :u wow advice is working |
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| 22:44.20 | nils_ | VentGrey, how is it failing? |
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| 22:45.09 | VentGrey | Throws a bunch of make errors |
| 22:45.20 | nils_ | VentGrey, a paste would be nice ;) |
| 22:45.28 | codebam_ | so after rebooting systemd services are hanging because it can't bring up the interfaces properly |
| 22:45.36 | codebam_ | and I can't finish booting |
| 22:45.36 | VentGrey | I know im trying to reduce it |
| 22:46.01 | codebam_ | how do I fix it? |
| 22:46.27 | nils_ | VentGrey, as long as you use a pastebin I would be fine with the whole output. |
| 22:46.28 | codebam_ | can I boot with a kernel option that will tell systemd to skip bringing up interfaces, or just get to a root shell? |
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| 22:47.32 | remo1 | If I run bridge interface as allow-hotplug br0 -- interface not up. If I run interface as auto br0, when boot I need wait 1 minute for boot |
| 22:47.52 | codebam_ | oh we have the same issue. interesting |
| 22:47.56 | remo1 | How to fix waiting 1 minute ? |
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| 22:48.11 | codebam_ | only difference is that I have a stupid service that waits forever |
| 22:48.16 | codebam_ | so I can't boot |
| 22:48.18 | codebam_ | ... |
| 22:48.54 | bolt | LtL: hmm.. i ran "dmidecode -t 20" ( http://paste.debian.net/974833/ ), and it shows addess 9ce494000, which the problem is in according to mcelog, is on physical device handle 0x005D, between 0x00800000000 and 0x00BFFFFFFFF. according to "dmidecode -t memory", ( http://paste.debian.net/974831/ ) that's the stick in DIMM_B1, which I can look up in the manual for the board |
| 22:49.55 | bolt | guess i'll try to rip that one out and test it elsewhere |
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| 22:51.20 | LtL | bolt: take it out and run memtest |
| 22:51.55 | bolt | LtL: not sure if memtest properly supports ecc. the errors are being corrected. |
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| 22:52.27 | LtL | bolt: provided it will boot with an empty bank. im not sure about ECC either |
| 22:52.55 | bolt | LtL: that's another issue, i guess... dunno if it'll be happy about that. might have to remove more than one stick |
| 22:53.42 | nils_ | bolt, should usually work, but performance may be degraded on that memory channel (assuming reasonably modern x86) |
| 22:53.49 | Olof_szary | hello. I am looking for tool to do efficient, easy accessible backup. No zipping (because most are hard to compress), no encryption, on local (USB) device. |
| 22:54.10 | LtL | bolt: try, if it doesnt transfer the dimm's to populate the empty slot, follow me? |
| 22:54.31 | Olof_szary | I am thinking about rsync, but I am unsure which options should I provide |
| 22:54.44 | nils_ | Olof_szary, I liked rsnapshot for that purpose, it uses rsync internally |
| 22:54.48 | LtL | bolt: leaving the end bank empty, shouldnt need to tho' |
| 22:55.03 | bolt | LtL: yeh. i'll give it a shot :) |
| 22:55.29 | codebam_ | ? |
| 22:55.33 | bolt | nils_: thinking that too |
| 22:55.43 | VentGrey | @nils_ |
| 22:55.47 | VentGrey | or nils |
| 22:55.50 | VentGrey | https://pastebin.com/HTUeN4Xz |
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| 22:56.05 | VentGrey | cant find what's wrong on my syntax |
| 22:56.09 | nils_ | VentGrey, apt-get install bc |
| 22:56.27 | nils_ | VentGrey, and you'll also need libssl-dev (or whatever it's named) |
| 22:56.37 | VentGrey | libssl? |
| 22:56.51 | VentGrey | let me try to install them |
| 22:56.53 | nils_ | VentGrey, this line is the error: /bin/sh: 1: bc: not found |
| 22:57.05 | qqumber | I want reality to be like something in a sci-fi movie! Reality fucking sucks. |
| 22:57.23 | VentGrey | Downloading... |
| 22:57.38 | VentGrey | that was fast |
| 22:58.33 | Olof_szary | nils_: do you know if i could just put rsync -a --delete and it shall work? |
| 22:58.49 | qqumber | I hate youths. |
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| 22:59.25 | VentGrey | well, its making some progress.... |
| 22:59.47 | nils_ | Olof_szary, I guess so, I'm not too intimately familiar with all the command line switches. rsnapshot has the advantage of keeping a few older versions of the data. |
| 22:59.52 | VentGrey | tho is going reaaally slow, i should have enabled multi-core compile |
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| 23:00.35 | VentGrey | OMG it's actually compiling |
| 23:00.41 | Tramp | Olof_szary: check "-H" for preservation of hard links |
| 23:00.43 | VentGrey | Thanks Mr Nils_ :D |
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| 23:01.40 | Olof_szary | nils_: I already have a script for rotation+packing more-important parts (pdfs, sourcecodes etc). Now I am mainly interested in preserving all important-but-not-cruicial parts of /home/ with easy access |
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| 23:03.21 | Tramp | Olof_szary: depending on how much space you have and if you want some history, tar (with a date-suffix) might also be an option |
| 23:04.08 | VentGrey | does make deb-pkg support multicore? |
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| 23:06.16 | missmbob | you can use -j and specify the number. man make |
| 23:07.11 | Olof_szary | Tramp: /home: 600G, backupdir 3TB. I am able to spare 600 GB on backup (as-it-is). the rest is devoted to important-copressed-rotated backup I have scripts for those and now I am working on script for the as-it-is backup |
| 23:07.26 | tharkun | Aloha, I'm trying to download the DVD iso from 9.0 but I get File `debian-9.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.template' does not exist! from Debian mirror [http://ftp.debian.org/debian] |
| 23:07.30 | VentGrey | i did man make XD i just saw the -j thing |
| 23:07.36 | tharkun | Any ideas what tree should I bark at? |
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| 23:07.53 | VentGrey | as far as I understand it must be my processor cores +1 |
| 23:07.57 | VentGrey | am i wrong? |
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| 23:08.26 | missmbob | that'd work fine |
| 23:08.33 | Tramp | Olof_szary: yeah, if you only want 1 generation, I'd go with rsync. |
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| 23:09.29 | Olof_szary | Tramp: -aH --delete, or something more? |
| 23:09.38 | VentGrey | 1 gen? |
| 23:10.29 | Tramp | Olof_szary: nah, should be fine. (I use -vaH all the time, but you may not want the verbosity) |
| 23:11.32 | Olof_szary | the --delete option checks source, and if I removed/renamed some file in tracked directories, it will remove from my backup, right? |
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| 23:11.58 | Olof_szary | it wont mess up my actual /home/ |
| 23:12.35 | tharkun | Is the jigdo downloading way broken for Stretch? |
| 23:12.46 | Tramp | not unless you mix up source and destination |
| 23:13.00 | Olof_szary | :D thanks |
| 23:13.08 | Tramp | Olof_szary: you can run with -n first to see, what it does |
| 23:13.40 | Tramp | Olof_szary: and if stuff gets confusing, sometimes --itemize-changes can be helpful for debugging |
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| 23:15.24 | Tramp | Olof_szary: yes. --delete deletes from the target |
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| 23:21.53 | VentGrey | jigdo speed is considerably fast |
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| 23:22.02 | VentGrey | I downloaded my iso at 4MB/s |
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| 23:24.39 | tharkun | FTR http://ftp.mx.debian.org is borked. Maybe a look into it might be a good thing. (It has never worked well.) |
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| 23:30.20 | VentGrey | im from mx too XD |
| 23:30.28 | VentGrey | try usinf the unam one |
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| 23:38.28 | wwwwwwww | can you upgrade the kernel in debian 9 stretch to 4.12? |
| 23:38.30 | wwwwwwww | how safe is it? |
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| 23:42.53 | dondelelcaro | wwwwwwww: you can, but that's not really a question we can answer; how safe it is depends on your exact set of hardware and what you're oding |
| 23:43.30 | nils_ | wwwwwwww, you'll have to build the kernel yourself, I tend to wait for the first point release (or until ZFS on Linux adds support for that particular version) |
| 23:44.40 | wwwwwwww | how easy is it to revert back to a previous kernel? |
| 23:45.03 | dondelelcaro | wwwwwwww: pretty easy, if you've still got the old kernel installed |
| 23:46.48 | dondelelcaro | (it'll be an option in grub or most bootloaders) |
| 23:47.00 | codebam | I enabled networkmanager but it's not doing dhcp negotiations |
| 23:47.16 | codebam | it connects fine, and then doesn't negotiate for dhcp |
| 23:47.28 | tharkun | Is the jigdo-lite way of downloading a regular iso really a faster way than wget? |
| 23:48.00 | missmbob | bt |
| 23:48.10 | jmcnaught | codebam: did you stop or remove dhcpcd? did you comment out your wireless interface in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 23:48.24 | tharkun | I'm getting connected from southamerica all the way to sweden to download files :( |
| 23:48.26 | codebam | I disabled dhcpcd. do I need to enable it? |
| 23:48.38 | codebam | jmcnaught: I commented out everything except the loopback |
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| 23:49.18 | codebam | does networkmanager use dhcpcd? |
| 23:49.32 | codebam | I didn't have it installed before |
| 23:50.05 | jmcnaught | codebam: NetworkManager does not use dhcpcd |
| 23:50.35 | tharkun | codebam: set up a line using dhclient for your particular install and report back. |
| 23:50.44 | jmcnaught | also if you have installed other network configuration tools like wicd or connman please check that they are stopped, disabled, uninstalled as appropriate |
| 23:50.57 | wwwwwwww | last question. do I only have to concerned about hardware problems with a newer kernel version? or is some software on the stable distribution designed to only work with kernel 4.9? |
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| 23:51.25 | VentGrey | Im actually compiling it |
| 23:51.40 | VentGrey | tho the LTS kernel should give you no trouble |
| 23:52.29 | tharkun | wwwwwwww: why 4.9? Does the regular kernel shipped with your flavour does not support something you are eager to use? |
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| 23:54.01 | wwwwwwww | tharkun: im getting "fifo underrun" errors which flicker my screen frequently. ive tried the reccomended boot parameters to fix it but they do nothing |
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| 23:54.11 | codebam | okay, well dhcpcd is disabled and I can't get a dhcp lease |
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| 23:54.55 | codebam | how can I fix this |
| 23:54.57 | tharkun | wwwwwwww: Did you get the correct video module for your particular monitor? |
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| 23:55.19 | tharkun | codebam: set up a line using dhclient for your particular install and report back. |
| 23:55.39 | codebam | tharkun: set up a line? |
| 23:55.47 | codebam | what does that mean |
| 23:56.26 | pacha | any place to get new fortunes for this https://wiki.debian.org/fortune? |
| 23:56.52 | jmcnaught | codebam: can you make a paste of the output of "journalctl -u NetworkManager" ? |
| 23:56.59 | tharkun | codebam: man dhclient is your starting point. Sorry I'm too busy at the moment. |
| 23:57.53 | codebam | jmcnaught: https://ptpb.pw/KPoX.txt |
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| 23:58.31 | jmcnaught | pacha: packages that start with 'fortunes-' try "apt-cache search --names-only fortunes" |
| 23:58.56 | pacha | jmcnaught: already got those |