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| 00:14.25 | LambdaComplex | Debian does tell you when you have new mail by default, right? |
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| 00:23.22 | Saar | LambdaComplex: sort of, it depends on how you install it, if you choose to install an MTA the typical default configurations will notify you you have new mail when you log into the text console or open a terminal |
| 00:24.09 | Saar | it seems to do that even if you set up the MTA to only do local email |
| 00:24.19 | LambdaComplex | What results in that new mail message? |
| 00:24.33 | LambdaComplex | A bit of googling suggests pam-mail, but I'm not positive |
| 00:24.40 | Saar | could be |
| 00:24.52 | Saar | it'll check contents of /var/spool/mail/username |
| 00:26.35 | Saar | I haven't relied or used this type of functionality since mid 90s, because having new mail is pretty much the norm |
| 00:26.58 | Saar | when was the time your inbox is empty |
| 00:27.19 | Saar | and I'd rely on an email client so I check it myself |
| 00:28.52 | Saar | a typical imap daemon will move mail out of /var/spool/mail/username into its own mail files/folders whenever it is probed by the email client, so you may not get a new mail message even if there is new mail |
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| 00:29.33 | Saar | good old unix stuff that may still have use cases but often is of no real need, it's nice it is there I guess |
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| 00:33.44 | Tonkadoro | I have some jacked up xml documents that open on the windows computer at work, I can't figure out how to open them on my debian box at home. |
| 00:34.01 | Tonkadoro | and I know dick about xml |
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| 00:35.44 | th0r | Tonkadoro, won't libreoffice open them? |
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| 00:36.33 | Tonkadoro | th0r, that's a good idea i haven't tried. what, the word processor? |
| 00:37.23 | th0r | Tonkadoro, if they are documents then yes, the word processor. I think it will handle office xml files....should identify them automatically for you. |
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| 00:37.51 | Tonkadoro | th0r, i'm doing it now. |
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| 00:39.33 | th0r | Tonkadoro, xml is a method of encoding document properties...bold print, underlining, etc. (a bit more complicated...but...) So the documents could be spreadsheets, presentations, whatever |
| 00:39.53 | Tonkadoro | good to know. |
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| 00:42.25 | sfetghjk | Anybody have a good thought for SOC H3 boards as to a minimal install? Ive tried deb(jessie) and dietpi(didnt work) but I just want something native to the armhf(sun8i) chip :/ I dont want to have to build the whole thing myself. Gunna have to if yall dont have a minimalistic version available |
| 00:42.25 | Tonkadoro | They're pdf's! it's a collection of pdf files, page 1 2 3... |
| 00:43.29 | th0r | pdf's don't use xml :) |
| 00:43.31 | Tonkadoro | wait, no it's not. It's where I download the same file a bunch of times. |
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| 00:45.15 | Tonkadoro | I can't figure out how to open a remote file in libreoffice writer. |
| 00:45.42 | Tonkadoro | nor how to download anything more significant that the url. |
| 00:45.59 | th0r | Tonkadoro, remote how? on a network server? |
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| 00:46.19 | Tonkadoro | th0r, yes. |
| 00:46.53 | th0r | Tonkadoro, you map the network drive to a mount point. Then it appears to be part of the local file structure. |
| 00:47.30 | Tonkadoro | maybe I overstated it, it's on the web. |
| 00:48.19 | Tonkadoro | it says google drive or alfresco and shit. |
| 00:48.54 | Tonkadoro | Wait, I can wget url.company.com |
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| 00:49.10 | Tonkadoro | i think I can anyway, i'll try. |
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| 00:51.27 | Tonkadoro | i have the document.xml in my home folder, but it doesn't show in the open file dialog. |
| 00:52.02 | th0r | Tonkadoro, do you have libreoffice set to show all file types? |
| 00:52.12 | Tonkadoro | th0r, yes. |
| 00:52.45 | th0r | you should be able to look into the xml file with a simple text editor. It won't look right, but you can read it. |
| 00:54.03 | lucas-arg | any idea how to make debian 9 fonts look nicer on LCD laptop? |
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| 00:54.23 | Tonkadoro | Haha, when I open it in libreoffice it's just the graphic login web page. username: password: |
| 00:54.28 | Tonkadoro | fuck me. |
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| 00:56.20 | glick | howdy |
| 00:57.26 | Tonkadoro | th0r, I found it (was looking in the wrong directory) |
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| 01:01.01 | glick | hi can anyone recommend a good shared hosting company? |
| 01:01.40 | abrotman | wrong channel |
| 01:01.43 | glick | hostgator and ipage have shady and rediculous verification methods. they want me to photograph and send them a photo of my photo ID and the physical credit card |
| 01:02.15 | abrotman | glick: please ask elsewhere, this isn't related to Debian |
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| 01:13.29 | maxcell_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.36 | abrotman | install the firmware |
| 01:13.54 | maxcell_ | how we install firmware in linux? |
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| 15:00.14 | DebianCurious420 | So i have just a question, in order to use MDADM and create a raid 1 is suggested to create first the partitions and then ask to raid them right ? |
| 15:00.31 | DebianCurious420 | And the other question is.. can be them to be formatted in zfs after ? |
| 15:00.45 | sypher | DebianCurious420: ZFS has its own raid capability. |
| 15:00.49 | DebianCurious420 | Can i create the MD raid with the debian gui installer and then format them? |
| 15:01.26 | DebianCurious420 | sypher: uh? so i should not create the mdm arrays ? |
| 15:01.44 | jolt | DebianCurious420: If you want to do raid in zfs, den ignore mdadm |
| 15:01.45 | cinap_lenwerk | ooookay |
| 15:01.50 | cinap_lenwerk | now we got it working |
| 15:02.15 | penguin_linux | hello.. I see that so many distros are based on Debian. It is quite evident that Debian is stable and rock solid and other distros find it the most suitable base to build their distros on. I am curious whether Android OS that is used in mobiles and tables also is based on Debian. |
| 15:02.17 | cinap_lenwerk | we installed new gpg2 on another machine and generated a new key... |
| 15:02.26 | DebianCurious420 | jolt: ok so if you guys can give me some infos, i have a machine with 5 drives.. one ssd and 4 x 4tb hdds |
| 15:02.27 | jolt | DebianCurious420: But I don't think you can boot from zfs with debian yet, so if you want to have your root filesystem on raid1, then you need to create that boot and root partition with mdadm and leave free space for zfs |
| 15:02.43 | cinap_lenwerk | gpg1 was broken not generating key with SHA256 digest algo |
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| 15:02.59 | DebianCurious420 | jolt: for that isn't a problem i will install my debian on the ssd normally on ext4 |
| 15:03.13 | DebianCurious420 | jolt: what i want to create are 2 raid 1 using the 4 disks |
| 15:03.26 | jolt | DebianCurious420: Alright. THen just install normally on the ssd, and don't touch the 4 hdds. |
| 15:03.31 | DebianCurious420 | jolt: raid1 (disk 1 and 2) and a raid1 (disk 3 and 4) |
| 15:03.47 | jelly | DebianCurious420, so allocate something like 10-15GB out of that ssd for the OS, install, then create zfs later |
| 15:03.47 | DebianCurious420 | jolt: ok.. once in debian what should be my procedure ? |
| 15:03.59 | penguin_linux | is Android based on Debian? |
| 15:04.03 | jelly | penguin_linux, no |
| 15:04.04 | jolt | DebianCurious420: After the installation, install zfs and then use zfs for the other disks |
| 15:04.14 | penguin_linux | ok |
| 15:04.31 | DebianCurious420 | jolt: do you have a tutorial for that that could you link me ? zfs asks me which drives i wanna use ? |
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| 15:04.56 | DebianCurious420 | jolt: my goal would be have 2 mountpoints /storageA and /storageB with all the possible space available |
| 15:05.19 | jelly | !zfa |
| 15:05.22 | jelly | !zfs |
| 15:05.44 | greycat | !zfs |
| 15:05.44 | dpkg | ZFS (originally Zettabyte File System) is a file system / logical volume manager developed by Sun Microsystems (http://deb.li/7xXU). The Debian GNU/kFreeBSD kernel since 7.2 has ZFS support, the userland utilities are packaged as zfsutils. Native Linux support from zfsonlinux.org, #zfsonlinux channel on freenode, is included in Debian starting with <stretch> and <jessie-backports> with some caveats due to license conflicts. |
| 15:06.01 | DebianCurious420 | i have to use zfsutil ? |
| 15:06.03 | jelly | DebianCurious420, #zfsonlinux is better channel to ask questions about zfs setup on linux |
| 15:06.10 | DebianCurious420 | jelly: ok :) thanks |
| 15:06.10 | jolt | DebianCurious420: zpool create data mirror /dev/sda4 /dev/sdb4 for example. Just search on how to do it |
| 15:06.16 | jolt | And what jelly said |
| 15:06.18 | DebianCurious420 | jolt: ok thanks |
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| 15:06.50 | jolt | DebianCurious420: THere are lots of tweaks for getting the best performance out of it as well |
| 15:07.26 | DebianCurious420 | jolt: i just need a raid for safe storage.. i'm gonna ship this microserver to my parents house and make a reasonable cost disaster recovery |
| 15:07.51 | petn-randall | cinap_lenwerk: Ah, glad you got it fixed. IIRC you can also tell gnupg1 to use SHA256 (or others), the syntax is just slightly different. |
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| 15:08.49 | cinap_lenwerk | petn-randall: it would be nice if apt could tell that it rejects the digest algorithm |
| 15:09.18 | cinap_lenwerk | petn-randall: given that gpgv worked fine, but apt didnt... it was quite confusing |
| 15:09.18 | jhamlin | petn-randall: Thanks for the help. Looks like I'm back on track. |
| 15:09.23 | greycat | Are you talking about https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#apt-improvements |
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| 15:18.09 | cinap_lenwerk | petn-randall: anyway, thanks for your support. |
| 15:18.44 | petn-randall | cinap_lenwerk: You're welcome! Come back if you need any help with Debian. |
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| 15:19.04 | petn-randall | *feel free to |
| 15:19.34 | petn-randall | mumbles something about back space and enter being too close. |
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| 15:46.12 | SirCmpwn | so I put together a sid root with debootstrap from an arch linux host |
| 15:46.27 | SirCmpwn | then started it with systemd-nspawn -nbD and enabled+started systemd-{networkd,resolvd} |
| 15:46.51 | SirCmpwn | I have an IP address but I cannot ping anything, resolve names, or establish TCP connections |
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| 15:48.45 | petn-randall | SirCmpwn: Does router as shown in 'ip route' on the Debian container support NAT, and does it have IP forwarding enable? |
| 15:48.48 | petn-randall | +d |
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| 15:49.19 | SirCmpwn | how would I find out? |
| 15:49.44 | greycat | probably by using it as a router from some other system, e.g. that arch host |
| 15:49.56 | SirCmpwn | well, the arch host is what I'm talking to you via now |
| 15:50.01 | SirCmpwn | presumably networking works |
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| 15:50.55 | petn-randall | SirCmpwn: Did you set up NAT and forwarding on the Arch machine? If not, it's not there. |
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| 15:51.30 | SirCmpwn | I did not take any special steps on the arch host |
| 15:51.39 | SirCmpwn | in the past I haven't had to in order to get networking to work via systemd-nspawn |
| 15:51.44 | SirCmpwn | what steps do I need to take? |
| 15:51.46 | petn-randall | SirCmpwn: If you can ping the router on the Debian container, but nothing else, that's the issue. |
| 15:52.07 | SirCmpwn | I can indeed ping the router |
| 15:52.49 | petn-randall | SirCmpwn: Can you ping 8.8.8.8? |
| 15:52.59 | SirCmpwn | no |
| 15:53.17 | SirCmpwn | ~ > sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward |
| 15:53.19 | SirCmpwn | net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 |
| 15:53.21 | SirCmpwn | on the host |
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| 15:54.00 | petn-randall | SirCmpwn: Yeah, and likely also some NAT firewall rule, assuming systemd-nspawn creates a private subnet (I haven't used it yet). |
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| 16:03.16 | yokisuci | :S |
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| 16:34.44 | SirCmpwn | petn-randall et al: checked my iptables rules, nothing there |
| 16:35.18 | greycat | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Internet_sharing#Enable_NAT |
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| 16:35.29 | greycat | you should really be asking in the Arch channel though |
| 16:35.36 | SirCmpwn | alright, I'll hop over there |
| 16:35.38 | SirCmpwn | thanks |
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| 16:36.57 | CDanU | Hi, is it possible to subscribe to a specific package only in the bug tracker? |
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| 16:38.06 | CDanU | ... without a debian account. |
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| 16:42.39 | Epakai | https://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html (pick the advanced option in the dropdown) |
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| 16:46.09 | CDanU | Epakai: thanks |
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| 16:50.58 | easyly | naber oclar |
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| 16:54.08 | knstn | does debian-stretch in lxc functions different in policies than normal installation? i have some issues with adding user and it's default settings |
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| 16:56.10 | knstn | it didn't provide a username / password so i had to attach as root, but i want to ssh it. if i add a user as root i have some issues with default dir |
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| 16:56.45 | greycat | Skip ahead to the actual issue. |
| 16:57.33 | knstn | it doesn't find /home/user even if it exists at /etc/passwd |
| 16:57.54 | greycat | Are you saying the home dir is not *created*? What command are you running? |
| 16:58.06 | pie3 | Act#1 |
| 16:58.07 | pie3 | <pie3> i dont have wired internet connection on laptop |
| 16:58.07 | pie3 | <pie3> so i turned on wifi from keyboard |
| 16:58.07 | pie3 | <pie3> how to find out list of wifi networks from terminal |
| 16:58.07 | pie3 | <pie3> how to connect and disconnect to a specific wifi network found in the range |
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| 16:58.18 | Aebian | 'sudo apt-cache search' can I search for descriptions also somehow? |
| 16:58.45 | greycat | That does search descriptions. To make it *not* search descriptions, you have to add --names-only |
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| 16:58.53 | greycat | Also you don't need to be root for apt-cache search. |
| 16:59.02 | knstn | greycat: as root:useradd with the default settings |
| 16:59.07 | Guest79810 | I need your helps to understand : Conditions which may prevent Kdump to create a vmcore automatically ? I have spontaneous reboots with no vmcore... |
| 16:59.23 | greycat | useradd is the low-level tool. It doesn't do anything fancy like creating home dirs. Use adduser (the high-level tool), or make the home dir yourself. |
| 16:59.46 | Aebian | wuut? you sure? I tought that just searches for package names... |
| 17:00.40 | Aebian | ok then just my search term is wrong I guess. I just tried to search for perl libraries |
| 17:00.47 | knstn | greycat: i learn something new each time in here.all this time i thought useradd/adduser was the same . Thanks |
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| 17:02.26 | pie3 | Act#1 i dont have wired internet connection on laptop; so i turned on wifi from keyboard; how to find out list of wifi networks from terminal how to connect and disconnect to a specific wifi network found in the range;help me to do activity thru linux terminal instead of gui; i want to do everything (regualr activity) thru terminal;to learn about linux |
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| 17:09.16 | knstn | adduser > useradd |
| 17:09.27 | knstn | now i can ssh it |
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| 17:11.11 | `Kevin | manpage :) |
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| 17:11.27 | `Kevin | comparing oranges to apples |
| 17:12.15 | knstn | now i run 4 OS:fedora+debian+ubuntu+centos |
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| 17:21.48 | ElDiabolo | How do I configure apt.get to use a few packages (3) from jessie while the rest is from stretch. |
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| 17:22.25 | jhutchins_wk | knstn: Actually, you run four "distributions" or versions of the same OS: Linux. |
| 17:24.37 | greycat | I call them operating systems. Debian calls itself an operating system. |
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| 17:25.36 | jhutchins_wk | greycat: Which it is, it's Linux. |
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| 17:26.14 | dontknow | it is gnu/linux |
| 17:26.14 | greycat | Linux is a kernel. |
| 17:26.26 | greycat | Debian is an operating system. |
| 17:26.46 | zifxify | dontknow: great nick |
| 17:26.47 | awal1 | in fact, linux is just a kernel. Debian GNU-Linux OS |
| 17:27.47 | awal1 | + debian kfree-bsd, debian gnu-hurd |
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| 17:29.39 | ElDiabolo | Actually, Linux without GNU includes Android. |
| 17:30.16 | th0r | I don't care how long it has been...it is still fun watching blind men describe an elephant |
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| 17:31.00 | bolt | actually, in fact |
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| 17:32.59 | duff | is broadcom BCM4352 supported by the linux kernel? |
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| 17:33.48 | greycat | !bcm4352 |
| 17:33.48 | dpkg | Broadcom's proprietary wireless LAN driver (wl, aka broadcom-sta) supports devices based on the Broadcom BCM4311, BCM4312, BCM4313, BCM4321, BCM4322, BCM43224, BCM43225, BCM43227, BCM43228, BCM43142, BCM4331, BCM4352 and BCM4360 chips. To install (amd64 and i386 only), see https://wiki.debian.org/wl . Most of these chips are also supported by the open source <b43> and <brcmsmac> drivers. |
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| 17:34.32 | duff | Is it better to go with the opensource driver? |
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| 17:35.49 | zifxify | duff: there's no support for your card |
| 17:35.55 | zifxify | b43 |
| 17:36.34 | duff | broadcom has a non free driver on their website would I have to use that version to get it working? |
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| 17:38.02 | zifxify | duff: https://wiki.debian.org/wl |
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| 17:41.13 | duff | How can you add debian gpg keys ? |
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| 17:42.43 | flashdance93 | I am a bit new to the modern systems, I'm curious to find out if there is a made downloadable iso for the latest release of Debian for bootable thumb drive not live but fresh install make usb boot. |
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| 17:45.52 | tremolo | I believe that most of the debian installers can be written to a flash disk and installed from. |
| 17:46.19 | duff | two usb drives one with Debian netinstall and the usb you want to install it with |
| 17:46.43 | greycat | Or a CD/DVD and the USB "drive" that you want to install onto. |
| 17:47.09 | greycat | Surely I can't be the only one who still has a good-sized stack of CDs just sitting there waiting. |
| 17:47.13 | tremolo | Oh, is a flash disk the installation target? |
| 17:47.27 | greycat | It's hard to tell. I assumed it was. |
| 17:47.29 | duff | What's a dvd ? |
| 17:47.37 | greycat | It's like a CD but it holds more. |
| 17:47.50 | greycat | The good news is, the netinst still fits on a CD. |
| 17:48.15 | tremolo | duff: It's like a low-capacity bluray. |
| 17:48.45 | flashdance93 | Thank you !!! Thought it was just myself, but it's a bit of struggle with solid state laptops... |
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| 17:49.31 | greycat | solid state... so you *don't* actually want to install *onto* a USB drive, then? |
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| 17:49.50 | greycat | You just want to write the netinst to a USB drive and use that to install onto your internal SSD? |
| 17:50.09 | duff | maybe it's a one of those pluggable drives with a usb 3.0 output |
| 17:50.57 | flashdance93 | I got the Debian topics listed here saving the webpages for future reading... I wanted a full copy to install without internet also... |
| 17:51.38 | duff | https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 17:51.42 | greycat | Why? Are you in a third world country? |
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| 17:52.15 | flashdance93 | oh no I'm in Canada simply limited resources where I'm at |
| 17:53.06 | tremolo | The netinstaller isn't so much fun with a slow connection, so I downloaded the bluray installer at work and wrote it to a flash disk. |
| 17:53.16 | greycat | Well anyway, yes, you can download a DVD-sized iso image (shudder) and write that to a sufficiently large USB "drive" and install from that onto an internal SDD or HDD or even an external USB "drive". |
| 17:53.28 | ElDiabolo | Ist there a way to configure apt to ignore a set of broken dependencies? |
| 17:53.38 | greycat | Do not use a live image. *DO* use one with non-free firmware if you are installing on a laptop. |
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| 17:53.55 | nkuttler | !tell ElDiabolo about errors |
| 17:53.56 | greycat | Otherwise you'll be back asking how to do stupidly complicated things. |
| 17:54.55 | flashdance93 | Okay thank you, bit confused with the iso 1 iso 2 and iso 3 but the blueray thing clarified that issue |
| 17:54.55 | greycat | Christ. |
| 17:54.55 | greycat | !firmware image |
| 17:54.55 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>. |
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| 17:55.38 | greycat | amd64 *click* iso-dvd *click* |
| 17:55.50 | knstn | systemd is everywhere |
| 17:56.00 | greycat | That'll give you 3.6 GB of outdated packages, yay. |
| 17:57.50 | ElDiabolo | nkuttler, This is not about errors, I have just fixed a problem by downgrading apache2, apache2-bin and apache2-data to jessie. This has caused broken dependencies for 4 libapache2-mod- pachages. I simply want to ignore them without loosing the abiity to do upgrades. |
| 17:58.05 | greycat | *facepalm* |
| 17:58.21 | nkuttler | ElDiabolo: well, you asked in here, so i assumed you need help, my bad |
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| 17:58.40 | greycat | The only supportable answer we can give you is "downgrade those -mod- packages also." |
| 17:58.58 | abrotman | or fix your apache to work with the new packages |
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| 18:03.46 | ElDiabolo | greycat, Sigh, I would prefer to avoid that. It includes downgrading perl. |
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| 18:04.55 | greycat | In that case, listen to abrotman. |
| 18:05.13 | greycat | Fix your shit instead of randomly going backwards and trying to make apt ignore the fact that the system is broken. |
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| 18:06.41 | nkuttler | ^^++ or, you know, if you like pain, forward-port the stuff you need. or just keep using jessie, you don't have to upgrade today |
| 18:07.14 | nkuttler | though installing an old perl probably won't work. just stay on jessie |
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| 18:08.19 | ElDiabolo | greycat, Not sure if it is my stuff that needs to be fixed. An internal subrequest returns a mime type httpd/unix-directory, so it may well be that apache is to blame. I think I'll keep it the way it is now until I either find a solution or a newer apche version appears in testing. The latter might well fix it. |
| 18:08.23 | kaboutur | stretch installs faster, but probably because they moved all normal unix, sys and net utils to packages. :( |
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| 18:09.54 | SwK | anyone know why libcurl with ssl bindings was decided to be linked against openssl 1.0 instead of openssl 1.1? |
| 18:09.54 | kaboutur | jessie had it's charm. even with systemd. Why is debian changing so much in the past yrs :x |
| 18:10.00 | aguitel | why apparmor is not installed in stretch ? |
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| 18:10.49 | nkuttler | ,v apparmor |
| 18:10.50 | judd | Package: apparmor on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.7.103-4; jessie: 2.9.0-3; jessie-backports: 2.10.95-4~bpo8+2; stretch: 2.11.0-3; sid: 2.11.0-6; buster: 2.11.0-6 |
| 18:11.05 | nkuttler | aguitel: why don't you install it? |
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| 18:11.16 | UnixMonky | @kabotur: the model T had it's charm, why does Ford keep changing their cars? :P because newer better methods exist now that didn't then. |
| 18:11.24 | aguitel | nkuttler, need to install it ? |
| 18:12.09 | nkuttler | aguitel: is it already installed? |
| 18:12.23 | aguitel | nkuttler, no |
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| 18:12.52 | Sark | Beating my head against a wall here... anyone know if it's possible to use a Radeon R5 mobile graphics card with Debian 9? |
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| 18:13.27 | pie3 | how to list all bridged channels on irc? |
| 18:13.27 | ElDiabolo | kaboutur, No idea. I don't know why gnome 3 and systemd happened. But this an opinion discussion. |
| 18:13.30 | Sark | Just installed it, doesn't work with the OSS driver. And I can't install the ATI proprietary one because THAT doesn't support Xserver 1.19 |
| 18:13.32 | nkuttler | Sark: sure, just use the vesa driver |
| 18:14.36 | Sark | Right, but then I get 800x600. |
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| 18:15.48 | tremolo | I remember drooling over 800x600. |
| 18:15.51 | kaboutur | ElDiabolo: already getting used to systemctl. two logs (syslogd & journal) is a bit much. hope syslogd gets obsolete |
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| 18:16.14 | kaboutur | systemctl -f is fancier than tail -f /var/log/messages |
| 18:16.15 | tremolo | and color |
| 18:16.17 | tremolo | >.> |
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| 18:17.08 | Sark | Yeah, no, I definitely have plenty of machines where 800x600 is a lot. But... this thing has a huge color LCD, and it really only needs to be used for web browsing. But 800x600 is far too low a resolution. |
| 18:17.17 | greycat | pie3: if you have questions about the freenode IRC network, ask in #freenode |
| 18:17.19 | Sark | I need zero graphic accelleration. But I do need full resolution. |
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| 18:18.39 | kaboutur | ,v libmono |
| 18:18.40 | judd | No package named 'libmono' was found in amd64. |
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| 18:20.21 | jhutchins_wk | Sark: So what you probably need is a newer version of the proprietary drivers? |
| 18:20.31 | jhutchins_wk | !radeon |
| 18:20.31 | dpkg | Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by AMD/ATI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Also ask me about <radeon firmware>, <radeon audio>. https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. For the proprietary driver, see <fglrx>. |
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| 18:22.26 | duff | I install the broadcom driver and I get this error https://hastebin.com/mipenopuno.java |
| 18:22.35 | greycat | haaaaate |
| 18:22.53 | Sark | jhutchins_wk: I did download the latest version, from ATI's website. It only supports up to Xserver 1.10 |
| 18:23.29 | jhutchins_wk | Yeah, Dec. 2015 |
| 18:23.33 | towo` | Sark, install the firmware and be happy |
| 18:23.40 | towo` | fglrx is dead |
| 18:23.42 | jhutchins_wk | Doesn't officially support Debian anyway. |
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| 18:23.49 | Sark | towo`: What firmware? |
| 18:23.56 | towo` | firmware-amd-graphics |
| 18:24.30 | towo` | if we speak about stretch |
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| 18:24.39 | greycat | Didn't the bot ask you to ask it about radeon firmware? That means you type "/msg dpkg radeon firmware" |
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| 18:25.09 | greycat | Although that factoid says firmware-linux-nonfree and towo` says firmware-amd-graphics |
| 18:25.14 | Sark | Just installed it. That doesn't fix it. |
| 18:25.28 | towo` | Sark, you have to reboot |
| 18:25.40 | Sark | ah |
| 18:25.49 | Sark | See, I had no idea firmware was required. The log file doesn't mention firmware. |
| 18:25.59 | Sark | And I've never had to install firmware for a graphics card. Or even heard of doing so. |
| 18:26.04 | towo` | i wouldn't believe that |
| 18:26.34 | jhutchins_wk | Sark: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Debian |
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| 18:26.34 | towo` | dmesg | grep -i firmw would proof the system wants firmware |
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| 18:26.50 | Sark | I was checking the xorg log - not dmesg |
| 18:26.57 | Sark | Since X is what's dealing with the graphics card. |
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| 18:27.17 | Sark | But, then, I guess I forget how the console now uses it too - I'm too used to using system console. |
| 18:27.17 | towo` | Sark, since ages KMS is used |
| 18:27.21 | jhutchins_wk | Sark: Ah, but modern X drivers use kernel modules as well. |
| 18:27.34 | towo` | and the kernel module radeon needs that firmware |
| 18:27.39 | Sark | I... use a lot of *very* old hardware. |
| 18:28.30 | Sark | So, yeah, that works. |
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| 18:28.50 | greycat | towo`: no, since stretech. |
| 18:29.11 | towo` | greycat, what since stretch? |
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| 18:29.26 | greycat | KMS being used for a bunch of chipsets that didn't use it in jessie |
| 18:29.35 | towo` | wrong |
| 18:29.45 | towo` | even in jessie radeon needs firmware |
| 18:30.39 | duff | When using bash do you put the command in a variable if you are using the sleep function ? |
| 18:30.48 | greycat | ... what. |
| 18:31.07 | greycat | sleep is not a function. It's a command. I don't know what you are talking about with variables. |
| 18:31.22 | greycat | If you want to sleep 3 seconds, you run "sleep 3" |
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| 18:42.32 | jhutchins_wk | towo`: KMS is being used by chipsets that didn't use it before as well as Radeon, which did use it before stretch. |
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| 19:21.06 | woky | Hi. I'm on debian testing and after some time I upgraded system and now my sharp DejaVu fonts are no longer that sharp. Here's the image for comparison: https://i.imgur.com/4gw19N0.png The bottom is the system after upgrade. I'm also using proprietary nVidia driver. Do you have the same issue? |
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| 19:22.16 | woky | I even forced the "DejaVu Sans" into CSS and it seems this is the new way DejaVu Sans is rendered, even GTK 2/3 apps have this ugly font. |
| 19:22.32 | woky | What could be the problem? |
| 19:22.35 | centrx | woky: The bottom looks sharper to me, just a little bolder |
| 19:22.36 | greycat | Go to #debian-next on OFTC. |
| 19:22.44 | greycat | Join the other user who just had the *same* exact issue. |
| 19:23.00 | woky | greycat, thank you very much! |
| 19:23.51 | greycat | 14:35 [oftc] Lyberta|#debian-next> hi, libfreetype6 update just arrived and fonts became horrible [...] |
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| 19:25.55 | woky | centrx, well, the top is much more easier to read for me. |
| 19:26.14 | denisbr | I´m a PHP developer, Can i contribute with the Debian in any way? |
| 19:26.38 | denisbr | Using my experiencie with PHP and web developing? |
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| 19:29.55 | hanshenrik | im on a network with no dhcp server, and i have to configure the network manually... |
| 19:29.57 | teraflops | hmm |
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| 19:30.23 | teraflops | ,v libfreetype6 |
| 19:30.24 | judd | Package: libfreetype6 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.4.9-1.1+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 2.4.9-1.1+deb7u7; jessie-security: 2.5.2-3+deb8u2; jessie: 2.5.2-3+deb8u2; stretch: 2.6.3-3.2; buster: 2.8-0.2; sid: 2.8-0.2 |
| 19:30.46 | teraflops | ah 2.8 hurrah |
| 19:30.54 | hanshenrik | im fairly certain that i write in everything correctly, yet at the end of configuring network manually, the installer seem to crash, and i get this error: [!] Configure the network - Error - An error occurred and the network configuration process has been aborted. You may retry it from the installation main menu. |
| 19:30.59 | hanshenrik | ofc, every time i do, i get the same errorl |
| 19:31.03 | hanshenrik | same error* |
| 19:31.22 | hanshenrik | the error looks like this https://i.imgur.com/iakWLrk.png |
| 19:31.27 | hanshenrik | any suggestions on how to fix it? |
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| 19:31.33 | hanshenrik | i've tried restarting several times |
| 19:31.43 | hanshenrik | im running the netinst cd |
| 19:31.44 | greycat | During the installer, Alt-F4 should have a log file, and Alt-F2 is a usable terminal. |
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| 19:32.56 | hanshenrik | a message stands out, "INFO: No IPv6 support found... how does that happen?", |
| 19:32.58 | hanshenrik | ohh now i see |
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| 19:33.58 | hanshenrik | kernel: bnx2 0000:02:00.0: firmware failed to load bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1b.fw (-2) <<< could that be related? |
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| 19:34.35 | greycat | yes |
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| 19:34.41 | hanshenrik | also INFO: executing ip addr add 62.210.82.9/24 broadcast 62.210.82.255 dev eno1 -> ip: RTNETLINK answers: Network is unreachable |
| 19:34.48 | greycat | ,file bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1b.fw |
| 19:34.52 | judd | Search for bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1b.fw in stretch/amd64: firmware-bnx2: lib/firmware/bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1b.fw |
| 19:35.03 | greycat | Hmm, that's not non-free...? |
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| 19:35.32 | greycat | Oh, yes it is. It just doesn't say so in judd's output. |
| 19:35.34 | hanshenrik | no idea, its a Dell PowerEdge R210 II server, if that's any clue |
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| 19:35.57 | greycat | You need to get that firmware onto that computer somehow. |
| 19:36.26 | greycat | E.g. by putting it onto a second USB thingy, or by downloading the installer with non-free firmware included. |
| 19:36.40 | hanshenrik | or in worst case, compile the installer myself? |
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| 19:37.13 | hanshenrik | any idea where i can find a pre-compiled installer with non-free firmware included? |
| 19:37.32 | greycat | !firmware image |
| 19:37.33 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>. |
| 19:37.46 | hanshenrik | great, thanks |
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| 19:38.48 | hanshenrik | i guess its http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-9.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso then |
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| 19:39.35 | greycat | sounds promising |
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| 19:45.26 | hanshenrik | where was the d-i channel again? |
| 19:45.31 | hanshenrik | wasn't freenode but some other irc |
| 19:45.42 | hanshenrik | (debian installer development discussion channel) |
| 19:45.46 | jhutchins_wk | hanshenrik: oftc.net (debian.net) |
| 19:45.49 | hanshenrik | right, thanks |
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| 19:53.35 | qqumber | anyone bipolar in here? |
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| 19:55.27 | bolt | qqumber: not a psychology channel... |
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| 19:58.40 | qqumber | bolt, you're not a psychology channel |
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| 19:59.27 | greycat | qqumber: try ##psychology |
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| 20:00.13 | qqumber | greycat: they got triggered about something I said about race and psychology, apparently that was racism. |
| 20:00.37 | greycat | qqumber: We don't care. Stop. |
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| 20:02.55 | qqumber | greycat: no YOU don't care |
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| 20:03.37 | Legaume | i don't care too |
| 20:03.53 | Legaume | so we do'nt care |
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| 20:15.30 | hanshenrik | with that nonfree ISO, the system crashed during bootup (in fact, the entire idrac-remote-control system, crashed), that's interesting |
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| 20:15.41 | hanshenrik | because that's the exact same effect the Ubuntu netboot cd has on the system |
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| 20:16.04 | hanshenrik | i guess the official ubuntu cd comes with `non-free` drivers |
| 20:16.13 | hanshenrik | and that 1 of these non-free's crash the system |
| 20:16.43 | greycat | Well, at this point you don't know what actually *caused* the crash. |
| 20:17.03 | greycat | It could just be something that you never got to when the network interface wasn't usable. |
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| 20:17.17 | hanshenrik | no, just that the ubuntu netinst crashes it, and that the offcial debian netinst does not crash it, and that the unofficial debian netinst with non-free firmware, also crashes it |
| 20:17.38 | greycat | At what point does it crash, exactly? |
| 20:17.45 | greycat | And what do you mean by "crash"? |
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| 20:19.28 | hanshenrik | when you get the screen asking "do you want GUI install, or CLI install, or expert CLI install?~", after making a choice there, the entire IDRAC remote control thing stops responding to pings, and the screen stops updating from the java client, and the java client errors out with "connection dropped", and in order to get the idrac-remote-control thing back up, the system's power plug has to be taken out and reinserted. |
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| 20:20.08 | hanshenrik | this happens with debian-netinst-nonfree and ubuntu-netinst |
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| 20:20.29 | jhutchins_wk | hanshenrik: I would guess that the network setup is at least querying the idrac interface. Is it a seperate interface? Do you have it set to dedicated mode or shared? |
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| 20:24.26 | hanshenrik | jhutchins_wk, i don't really know, but i guess its shared. (its an Iliad Datacenter / online.net -hosted Dell PowerEdge R210 II server, if that's any clue) |
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| 20:25.48 | jhutchins_wk | hanshenrik: Shared is bad. |
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| 20:27.40 | jhutchins_wk | hanshenrik: Are you having to call them and get them to powercycle it, or can you cycle it from what's left of the idrac? |
| 20:28.06 | hanshenrik | i have to call them and tell them to reboot it (actually i just send them a support ticket, and they reboot it) |
| 20:28.37 | hanshenrik | but ive been trying to set this up properly for like 3 days.. the first problem is that the server had a damaged raid0 harddrive |
| 20:28.48 | jhutchins_wk | hanshenrik: Trying to remember if you can set shared/dedicated remotely, I don't think so. |
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| 20:28.58 | hanshenrik | what's the difference? |
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| 20:30.24 | jhutchins_wk | hanshenrik: It's the network connection. Most Dells have a separate NIC for the idrac, but it can be made accessible to the OS in shared mode. Once you boot the OS, it takes over the NIC (iirc). In dedicated mode, you can only use that port for idrac, but you can use idrac when the OS is up. |
| 20:30.37 | hanshenrik | jhutchins_wk, also, in the idrac web control panel, i only have viewer access, in order to actually change settings on the idrac, i must do it via the remote control thing in the bios-like configuration menu (where i'm an admin - not sure why this is) |
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| 20:31.16 | hanshenrik | jhutchins_wk, wait, is it possible that it'll stop crashing if i manage to change it to "dedicated" mode ? |
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| 20:31.50 | greycat | If jhutchins_wk is right, it's not really "crashing", you're just losing remote network access because the OS takes over the NIC. |
| 20:31.53 | jhutchins_wk | hanshenrik: You're at a pretty primative system level there - I think it might. We always ran the Gov't idracs in dedicated, in fact it was a whole dedicated physical network. |
| 20:33.46 | jhutchins_wk | Some people feel like they're wasting network resources by dedicating a whole NIC and switch port to the idrac, but those are the same people who don't think they need an idrac until the system freezes. |
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| 20:34.37 | jhutchins_wk | (Then there are those lovely folk who will only plug the idrac in on request.) |
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| 20:42.22 | hanshenrik | jhutchins_wk, well, it indeed has 2 network interfaces, and i suspect the idrac runs on interface #2 |
| 20:43.17 | hanshenrik | any easy-ish way to tell the debian installer to leave network interface #2 alone? :p |
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| 20:43.31 | hanshenrik | (it happens so early that i think the answer is no :( ) |
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| 21:34.36 | user_gfg | hello |
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| 21:43.53 | anyuser | any SDR Radio Fans? |
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| 21:49.26 | anyuser | how about open source hardware? like the KiwiSDR, an sdr radio that you connect to the ethernet port on a network (router or switch) and connect with a html-5 capable browser, kiwisdr has can display the entire spectrum from 100Khz to 30Mhz all at once, you can zoom in and out where you want, it is also shared worldwide at http://sdr.hu/ |
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| 21:56.42 | anyuser | bye all, just an old apple knocker here that loves Linux and HF radio, i wish good karma to all, bye |
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| 22:04.49 | darsie | hey |
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| 22:05.23 | darsie | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s01.html.en#boot-initrd tells me to edit grub.cfg which tells me "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE" |
| 22:06.54 | darsie | Should I file a bug report? |
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| 22:09.36 | teraflops | darsie: what are you trying to do? |
| 22:10.04 | dontknow | darsie, you should edit "/etc/default/grub" and after that grub-update |
| 22:10.07 | darsie | teraflops: Preparing to reinstall debian |
| 22:10.17 | dontknow | *update-grub |
| 22:10.39 | teraflops | and why are you editing bootloader config? |
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| 22:10.52 | darsie | dontknow: Then that sholud be in the installer manual. Unless it's for installing debian from other distros. |
| 22:10.57 | jmcnaught | darsie: the reason you would not edit that file is because update-initramfs would overwrite your changes. Those instructions are for temporarily booting the Debian installer from a hard drive, where presumably during the installation grub will be changing things more permanently |
| 22:11.11 | darsie | teraflops: So grub will boot the netboot images. |
| 22:11.32 | jmcnaught | darsie: you do not have a USB stick or CD-R available? |
| 22:11.33 | teraflops | darsie: use an up to date tutorial |
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| 22:12.02 | darsie | jmcnaught: I have a usb stick, but I'm unfamiliar with making it bootable. I'm more familiar with booting from hard disk. |
| 22:12.29 | darsie | teraflops: Are you implying teh stretch installer manual is not up to date? |
| 22:12.32 | jmcnaught | darsie: the Debian install manual has instructions for making a bootable USB stick that are somewhat easier than those instructions |
| 22:12.54 | jmcnaught | darsie: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 22:13.07 | darsie | jmcnaught: That's good. I want to boot form disk, though. |
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| 22:14.02 | teraflops | darsie: I dont care, if you really want to add an entry to an isofrom grub you drop a snippet in /etc/grub.d |
| 22:14.25 | teraflops | also DO NOT EDIT THAT FILE is a completely sane advice |
| 22:14.30 | teraflops | (imho) |
| 22:14.33 | darsie | It's not an iso, it's linux and initrd.gz. |
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| 22:14.47 | teraflops | darsie: ಠ_ಠ|
| 22:15.11 | jmcnaught | darsie: why not just use a USB stick? You download the iso file, do "cp debian.iso /dev/sdX", then you boot |
| 22:15.35 | teraflops | are you trying to win the 1st prize on the "weirdest debian installation contest"? |
| 22:15.51 | darsie | jmcnaught: I didn't have a usb stick before, so I'm used to booting from disk and I quite like it, e.g. because you don't need anything else. |
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| 22:16.46 | darsie | teraflops: No. Is there such a contest? You could give a link to it in the installe manual section describing installing from disk. |
| 22:17.23 | teraflops | grub can boot iso files from /boot directly |
| 22:17.26 | darsie | jmcnaught: That would probably erase the content of my stick. |
| 22:17.37 | jmcnaught | darsie: of course it would |
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| 22:19.08 | jmcnaught | besides being easier and the de facto "normal" way to install Debian onto a PC, if you have a USB with a bootable Debian installer on it all the time, you can use it for rescue mode |
| 22:19.21 | teraflops | darsie: and the same stands for what you want, you create a custom entry in /etc/grub.d instead editing grub.conf file directly |
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| 22:19.56 | darsie | teraflops: Instructions how to do that wolud be great in the installer manual. |
| 22:20.11 | teraflops | darsie: I did not write that manual |
| 22:20.25 | injustice | if i want to find out which package a specific header file is in, how can i search for that? |
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| 22:21.15 | teraflops | e.g use the web interface |
| 22:21.45 | jmcnaught | i think the instructions in https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s01.html.en#boot-initrd are written with "replacing current OS, just need to start the installer somehow" in mind |
| 22:22.54 | teraflops | injustice: which file? |
| 22:22.58 | injustice | libnetlink.h |
| 22:23.22 | darsie | /etc/grub.d/40_custom |
| 22:23.44 | teraflops | injustice: which debian release are you using? |
| 22:23.57 | injustice | teraflops: stretch. i'm sick of guessing. there must be a way to use apt-cache to search fot this |
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| 22:24.09 | teraflops | ,file libnetlink.h |
| 22:24.13 | judd | No packages in stretch/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 22:24.34 | teraflops | injustice: it's in sid |
| 22:24.50 | teraflops | injustice: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=sid&arch=any&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=libnetlink.h |
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| 22:26.53 | teraflops | hmm |
| 22:27.04 | teraflops | ,v iproute-dev |
| 22:27.05 | judd | Package: iproute-dev on amd64 -- wheezy: 20120521-3+b3 |
| 22:27.12 | teraflops | aww |
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| 22:27.29 | teraflops | injustice: weird |
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| 22:27.37 | linuxTST | how do you add an encrypted swap ? |
| 22:27.52 | injustice | teraflops: is wheezy the most recent? can't i just add sid to apt sources |
| 22:28.19 | teraflops | you can⦠not that I recommend it |
| 22:28.22 | n4dir | injustice: i don't know, someone will have to confirm, but apt-file might be an idea |
| 22:28.56 | injustice | teraflops: well i'm lazy and i want libnetlink, using rtnetlink looks like pain and suffering |
| 22:29.22 | jmcnaught | injustice: if you add sid to a stable system, you are going to have a bad time |
| 22:29.37 | n4dir | for sure not a lazy time though |
| 22:29.58 | teraflops | injustice: again, not a good idea, in such situation try 1) backporting it (if possible), 2) use pining |
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| 22:55.40 | SpaceAce | how do i go about resetting my sources.list to the defaults, or finding that GUI from the installer to select a mirror? |
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| 22:57.38 | SpaceAce | i suppose this will do the job - https://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ |
| 22:58.17 | SpaceAce | the server in question is a bit old. still running squeeze :( |
| 22:58.21 | awal1 | https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList?action=show&redirect=sources.list |
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| 22:59.17 | awal1 | SpaceAce, check ^ |
| 22:59.25 | SpaceAce | shall do, thanks awal1 |
| 22:59.31 | craysiii | Hello everyone, I am trying to reset root password on a customers debian 6 box, I see instructions to select "boot into recovery mode" and from there "boot as root user" in a secondary GUI menu, but for some reason I do not get that secondary menu. Is this expected behavior on debian 6? |
| 22:59.57 | SpaceAce | this is a production server so i don't want to upgrade the distribution, but i worry that the sources are no longer available for it |
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| 23:02.41 | nvz | craysiii: you need to boot the normal kernel option but edit the kernel command line I am not certain how to do that with your bootloader, but you need to add init=/bin/sh to the kernel command line or otherwise and perhaps more easy, is to boot from another device like a live cd or live usb |
| 23:03.15 | awal1 | SpaceAce, jessie or stretch? |
| 23:03.18 | Brigo | SpaceAce, you shouldn't use squeeze in a production server. |
| 23:03.36 | craysiii | yeah i wanted to avoid editing grub arguments, seems like its my only choice now though. Thanks! :) |
| 23:03.56 | Brigo | craysiii, no, you can boot from a live cd |
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| 23:04.03 | SpaceAce | squeeze was stable at the time |
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| 23:04.21 | Brigo | SpaceAce, yes, but now it is not getting security updates. |
| 23:04.26 | awal1 | oh, squeeze :( |
| 23:04.29 | SpaceAce | :( |
| 23:04.32 | nvz | craysiii: recovery mode would only work if they knew the current password, to change it without knowing the password you have to user init=/bin/sh or boot from another device and chroot |
| 23:04.36 | craysiii | true, if i end up coming back to this customer site i will do so. currently though I am very far from a CD Burner, and im not sure if this server can even boot from a USB |
| 23:04.51 | SpaceAce | yeah, unfortunately i'm a bit scared re: upgrading without stuffing it up |
| 23:04.58 | craysiii | thanks nvz |
| 23:05.17 | SpaceAce | i might just spin up a VPS and migrate things to that |
| 23:05.43 | SpaceAce | if anything goes wrong on this server it'll be my head, haha |
| 23:05.54 | SpaceAce | and the 12,000 active users |
| 23:06.41 | Brigo | SpaceAce, i can understand you being scare of the upgrade, but i see not other option here. |
| 23:07.12 | Brigo | You can try upgrading Squeeze from long time support repo, but it enden in 2016. |
| 23:07.19 | Brigo | ended* |
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| 23:07.59 | Brigo | SpaceAce, i would clone the system and try and upgrade elsewhere an see how it goes. |
| 23:08.00 | SpaceAce | yeah, i'll work on upgrading. |
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| 23:08.24 | Brigo | SpaceAce, i would clone the system and try an upgrade elsewhere and see how it goes. |
| 23:08.41 | Brigo | time to go to sleep here. |
| 23:08.50 | SpaceAce | thanks Brigo, i'll be doing that today. glad it's a friday because if i screw it up nobody will know :P |
| 23:08.57 | Brigo | XD |
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| 23:09.04 | Brigo | SpaceAce, lucky man :) |
| 23:09.05 | SpaceAce | much appreciated |
| 23:09.17 | Brigo | i am leaving now, bye. |
| 23:09.23 | SpaceAce | Bye! |
| 23:09.45 | craysiii | so my grub looks like this: https://pastebin.com/WWstHJCp |
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| 23:09.59 | craysiii | i would add the init=/bin/sh on like 9? |
| 23:10.01 | craysiii | line* |
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| 23:16.51 | Francy | its good to run multiple script with service like IRC ? |
| 23:17.09 | Francy | example run script1 & script2 & script3 |
| 23:17.19 | Francy | https://pad.riseup.net/p/bashtestirc |
| 23:17.29 | Francy | can someone take a look and help me ? <333 |
| 23:17.40 | Francy | :s |
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| 23:23.41 | Francy | no one there ? |
| 23:25.20 | yokisuci | Francy: ?? |
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| 23:26.54 | Francy | :D hi yokisuci |
| 23:27.04 | Francy | sorry for stupid question |
| 23:27.16 | Francy | I need to run multiple script |
| 23:27.23 | Francy | dont know how https://pad.riseup.net/p/bashtestirc |
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| 23:27.38 | Francy | I test like this but I dont know is the best way to do |
| 23:28.03 | Francy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:28.37 | yokisuci | Francy: Sorry right now I havenoidea. I'm kinda tiered and gonna sleep soon. But tbh I don't think would know either way. =/ |
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| 23:29.17 | Francy | thanks anyway have a good dream! |
| 23:29.48 | Francy | anyone there ! more than 1600 people |
| 23:29.50 | Francy | <3 |
| 23:29.57 | Francy | please someone have idea? |
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| 23:30.56 | yokisuci | Francy: Have you tried asking at reddit? Depending on where most people are, there's chance that alot of them are sleeping. ^^ |
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| 23:31.51 | Francy | thanks again for infos...I'll try to search somthing about it :) |
| 23:32.02 | yokisuci | :) |
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| 23:32.19 | Francy | you darlin* |
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| 23:34.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps |
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| 23:35.26 | Eryn_1983_FL | does ssh or pam have features for challenge auth |
| 23:35.40 | Eryn_1983_FL | i remeber.reading it long ago |
| 23:35.56 | stefan | we upgraded to 9.0 and we have issues with systemd now. systemd package was not installed and after installation all systemctl commands says "Failed to connect to bus: No such file or directory". any ideas? |
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| 23:36.33 | top_byte | When using ndiswrapper to install a windows driver but there is no inf file in the folder what should you do? |
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