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| 00:00.07 | qmr | Rajsun: you mean it unlocks without password? |
| 00:00.31 | Rajsun | qmr: Yup. Not sure why the inconsistent behavior, any ideas? |
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| 00:00.35 | MarioMey | in1t3r_: does teamviewer has something wrong...? |
| 00:01.07 | wonderfulmee | anyone wants to earn $50? work out a reliable way to process offline maildir style mail with NoPriv. I have no idea why the copy/paste won't work. gooogle Nopriv. |
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| 00:01.44 | jelly | $50 is half an hour of IT time, and you've already been given about that for free |
| 00:01.44 | wonderfulmee | an additional $10 for those folders that have changed |
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| 00:01.55 | wonderfulmee | a star or something |
| 00:02.09 | wonderfulmee | jelly: we've got Indians here |
| 00:02.16 | qmr | Rajsun: there's a timeout. look at the settings. |
| 00:02.18 | jelly | you wish! |
| 00:02.40 | wonderfulmee | oh well |
| 00:02.48 | wonderfulmee | someone's gonna claim the prize! |
| 00:02.54 | qmr | o_O |
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| 00:03.02 | wonderfulmee | yeah, prolly no |
| 00:03.03 | jelly | just saying, that's not fucking prize, it's a joke |
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| 00:03.23 | wonderfulmee | you can offer $60, you offer $60 |
| 00:03.35 | wonderfulmee | no skin off my ass |
| 00:04.00 | jelly | nod |
| 00:04.22 | qmr | I earn more than $50 when I take my morning poo |
| 00:04.44 | wonderfulmee | and here we have them US employees |
| 00:05.07 | jelly | in SE Europe |
| 00:05.21 | MarioMey | in1t3r_: it was about teamviewer. I unchecked them in Reposities in Synaptic. |
| 00:05.22 | wonderfulmee | I'm in Moscow |
| 00:05.31 | wonderfulmee | why the fuck do you think I outsource |
| 00:05.52 | jelly | because you work for a telco, that's standard procedure :-\ |
| 00:05.59 | Rajsun | qmr: If you mean the Blank screen setting, I've had it set to 15 minutes i.e. Settings > Power > Blank screen is set to 15 minutes & Settings > Privacy > Screen Lock is set to ON. However why is it that sometimes it'll prompt for a password to unlock but sometimes it doesn't? Is this a known bug? |
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| 00:06.05 | wonderfulmee | I work for government proper |
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| 00:06.14 | qmr | Rajsun: how long are you waiting? |
| 00:06.18 | jelly | ah, worse then :-) |
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| 00:06.45 | wonderfulmee | India |
| 00:06.48 | wonderfulmee | come to us |
| 00:06.58 | jelly | wonderfulmee, I wonder if Mailman 3 archiver is worth a shot |
| 00:07.16 | Rajsun | qmr: Usually when I leave my system overnight, when I try to unlock it may take just but a swipe with my mouse and it's unlocked. |
| 00:07.17 | jelly | probably more complex to set up than dovecot and FTS :-> |
| 00:07.19 | wonderfulmee | jelly i wonder if I don't care anymore |
| 00:07.31 | wonderfulmee | India you so proudy |
| 00:07.37 | qmr | Rajsun: that's dodgy. might ask mailing lists |
| 00:08.10 | Rajsun | qmr: Yeah. Was pondering if I should do that. Thanks anyway. |
| 00:09.01 | wonderfulmee | India or not, you should listen to Kendra Morris |
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| 00:09.41 | DebianCurious800 | Hello |
| 00:09.50 | DebianCurious800 | I have a problem with my debian installation |
| 00:09.50 | wonderfulmee | like, Kendra - Twist & Burn |
| 00:09.53 | HyP3r | nooneà |
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| 00:10.06 | DebianCurious800 | Used the new 9.0 installer on my HP Microserver v8 |
| 00:10.20 | jelly | |DM|, installing via apt does all the usual verification; grabbing a package from web and installing with gdebi might be more prone to security issues |
| 00:10.22 | DebianCurious800 | After the installation the drive is not booted |
| 00:10.25 | DebianCurious800 | I can't get why |
| 00:10.35 | DebianCurious800 | If i install win7 instead it works |
| 00:10.46 | DebianCurious800 | *shrug* |
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| 00:12.23 | wonderfulmee | инÑеÑеÑно. |
| 00:12.54 | wonderfulmee | hexchat irc клиенÑ, ниÑего извне не копиÑÑеÑÑÑ Ð½Ðµ вÑÑавлÑеÑÑÑ. |
| 00:12.58 | jelly | плз вÑиÑе ин ÐÐ½Ð³Ð»Ð¸Ñ |
| 00:12.58 | wonderfulmee | ÑÑо ноÑмалÑно? |
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| 00:13.18 | jelly | in here at least |
| 00:13.21 | wonderfulmee | Ñ.е. копиÑÑеÑÑÑ. не вÑÑавлÑеÑÑÑ. ctrl-v |
| 00:13.27 | jelly | !ru |
| 00:13.27 | dpkg | ÐÑо английÑкоговоÑÑÑий канал, пожалÑйÑÑа, говоÑиÑе по-английÑки или поÑеÑиÑе #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
| 00:14.04 | HyP3r | https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/205134 |
| 00:14.11 | HyP3r | Maybe this helps |
| 00:14.12 | wonderfulmee | nothing of sorts that I seem to copy elsewhere can I paste |
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| 00:14.52 | wonderfulmee | ctrl-v does zero of sorts |
| 00:14.52 | jelly | xchat and hexchat do something weird with clipboard and selection |
| 00:14.52 | jelly | I often have to select something _twice_ |
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| 00:15.03 | wonderfulmee | Ñо они Ñак |
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| 00:21.48 | edju | Running Jessie and network-manager-gnome. I cannot connect to wireless. I click on my SSID and nothing happens. If I click on some neighbor's - not pwd protected - I get a connection. Any tips? |
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| 00:22.04 | DebianCurious800 | qmr: I tried to do a boot override with F11 for example and even selecting the "hard drive" option is skipped and it goes directly on NIC boot from network |
| 00:23.55 | DebianCurious800 | qmr: seems that lot of people on internet says that HP Microserver Gen 8 doesn't support UEFI |
| 00:24.51 | in1t3r_ | DebianCurious800, boot from a cd chroot into installation and install proper manager for uefi either grub or reFINd |
| 00:25.39 | DebianCurious800 | in1t3r_: grub was installed on sde (the 5th drive) but is not loaded i fear |
| 00:25.55 | DebianCurious800 | in1t3r_: should i try to give a passage of boot recovery cd ? |
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| 00:26.28 | DebianCurious800 | https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/ |
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| 00:29.47 | in1t3r_ | is that drive setup to be the one that is bootable in uefi? |
| 00:30.33 | DebianCurious800 | in1t3r_: i don't get the question |
| 00:30.45 | in1t3r_ | why you didn;t installed it on the sda? |
| 00:30.57 | DebianCurious800 | in1t3r_: because sda is one of the 4 tb drives i have |
| 00:31.21 | DebianCurious800 | HP Microserver gen 8 has a sata controller with port 1 to 4 dedicated to hdds |
| 00:31.23 | DebianCurious800 | and the 5 port is free |
| 00:31.46 | DebianCurious800 | so sda to sdd are taken by 4tb hdds and the ssd goes on sde |
| 00:32.18 | in1t3r_ | just find it in a boot menu and set as the first to boot from |
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| 00:32.34 | DebianCurious800 | it seems that i can't find it |
| 00:32.38 | DebianCurious800 | or.. how to say |
| 00:32.46 | in1t3r_ | are the disks in a RAid array? |
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| 00:33.18 | DebianCurious800 | the disks are on a fakeraid controller |
| 00:33.22 | DebianCurious800 | but i setup it as ahci |
| 00:33.38 | MarioMey | I need libopenjpeg-dev... I think it is in sid (unstable) repositorie... how do I add this? Adding this to sources.list? deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian sid main non-free contrib |
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| 00:34.07 | DebianCurious800 | MarioMey: or you can use backports |
| 00:34.17 | MarioMey | DebianCurious800: How? |
| 00:34.48 | DebianCurious800 | MarioMey: google is your friend: https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 00:35.38 | |DM| | jelly, right, but I feel like having both jessie and sid in my sources is asking for trouble |
| 00:35.44 | |DM| | or did you mean grab the package and use apt to install? |
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| 00:36.10 | in1t3r_ | if not you can change the port for ssd to 1 but maybe better would be booting up from a livecd whichever. doing a chroot into your root partition on the disk and checking whether you have done installation correctly. |
| 00:36.30 | jelly | |DM|, it's a lot less trouble than adding a newer release than what you alreday have |
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| 00:36.42 | in1t3r_ | Also writing a grub to the sda would be simple and wouldn;t overwrite your disk. :) |
| 00:36.49 | LtL | edju: make sure your encryption protocol is correct, eg. wpa/wpa2 personal |
| 00:36.49 | jelly | MarioMey, which debian release do you have installed? |
| 00:36.58 | jelly | ,v libopenjpeg-dev |
| 00:36.59 | judd | Package: libopenjpeg-dev on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.3+dfsg-4.8; wheezy-security: 1.3+dfsg-4.8; jessie: 1:1.5.2-3 |
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| 00:37.20 | DebianCurious800 | in1t3r_: i prefer boot from sde if possible is just that i have to tweak with the bios |
| 00:37.20 | |DM| | You mean its safe because jessie is older than sid ? apt will 'know' to default to the sid version of packages? |
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| 00:38.05 | jelly | |DM|, packages in sid are already the same version or newer than ones in jessie, so apt doesn't have to know anything |
| 00:38.12 | jelly | also |
| 00:38.17 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 00:38.17 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 00:38.34 | jelly | ^^ right place to ask if you're on sid |
| 00:41.17 | in1t3r_ | do you have efi partition? are you using gpt or not? |
| 00:41.34 | DebianCurious800 | in1t3r_: i read is somehow a problem seen by various persons |
| 00:42.07 | DebianCurious800 | in1t3r_: and maybe the windows booted only because he created the small D: system partition on one of the 4 hdds |
| 00:42.24 | wonderfulmee | I apologize and I hate my current IRC client. |
| 00:42.38 | wonderfulmee | someone called out for IMAP folder being publicaly available |
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| 00:42.52 | wonderfulmee | I can't quite color (it literally colors) your name |
| 00:43.01 | wonderfulmee | do apologiz |
| 00:43.04 | wonderfulmee | *e |
| 00:43.27 | wonderfulmee | my current IRC l |
| 00:43.28 | in1t3r_ | Create a GPT partition table; Create a small less then 10m partition for GRUB; Create a 128 to 256 partition (FAT32) for EFI then create your other partitions setup lvm or LUKS whateve you want. |
| 00:43.32 | wonderfulmee | client is |
| 00:43.34 | wonderfulmee | .Ñм |
| 00:43.41 | wonderfulmee | there |
| 00:43.43 | in1t3r_ | DebianCurious800, ^ |
| 00:44.04 | wonderfulmee | I don't believe creating a GPT partition would save it |
| 00:44.36 | in1t3r_ | wonderfulmee, why not? |
| 00:44.36 | wonderfulmee | still better than mIRC |
| 00:44.40 | DebianCurious800 | in1t3r_: i prefer not to touch the hdds |
| 00:44.47 | DebianCurious800 | in1t3r_: https://homeservershow.com/forums/topic/6728-gen-8-boot-off-ssd/ |
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| 00:44.54 | wonderfulmee | in1t3r_, because ep1c? |
| 00:44.56 | in1t3r_ | The DebianCurious800 don't know how to chroot and do things manually |
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| 00:45.16 | DebianCurious800 | In achi mode you can only boot from port 1 or 2, which are on the sas. If you're not going to get a card you'll have to use the all five ports with raid, setting your ssd on the odd port on raid 0. Since this gives you, at best, 3gbs I chose, and was gently prodded, to buy a pcie raid card and a sas to sata cable and do it that way. |
| 00:45.21 | in1t3r_ | if you know then just follow the instractions on any of the sites :) |
| 00:45.23 | wonderfulmee | I don't know, really and don't care either way. |
| 00:45.36 | DebianCurious800 | in1t3r_: no indeed i have no idea how to chroot but the problem is not in the grub setup |
| 00:45.41 | wonderfulmee | it's okay. |
| 00:45.46 | DebianCurious800 | in1t3r_: the problem is written clearly that is on bios side |
| 00:46.06 | wonderfulmee | not mardam bey. |
| 00:46.27 | wonderfulmee | that's always a plus. |
| 00:46.42 | in1t3r_ | then simply chroot and write a grub on sda with specifaying /efi partition on sde |
| 00:46.47 | in1t3r_ | its not hard :) |
| 00:46.57 | wonderfulmee | go chroot out of India |
| 00:47.09 | in1t3r_ | you don;t have a system installed on sda like windows or something? |
| 00:47.33 | wonderfulmee | you don't have India installed on sda0 or anything |
| 00:47.37 | in1t3r_ | fu wonderfulmee |
| 00:48.08 | in1t3r_ | you want another kick? wonderfulmee |
| 00:48.20 | wonderfulmee | yes, in indeed of much kick |
| 00:48.33 | wonderfulmee | fucking hell. |
| 00:48.37 | DebianCurious800 | in1t3r_: no man because my machine has 4tb drives x 4 on the first 4 ports.. and the last one is the ssd |
| 00:48.58 | wonderfulmee | those indian people sure are thorough. |
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| 00:49.52 | wonderfulmee | the DebianCurious800 guy sounds like a high level Indian |
| 00:50.07 | DebianCurious800 | in1t3r_: thanks for the help i will manage it better tomorrow |
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| 00:50.31 | wonderfulmee | SSD Indians are the worst. |
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| 00:51.11 | wonderfulmee | imagine them with a white woman. |
| 00:54.29 | in1t3r_ | nope ssd indians who don;t know to setup dovecot are worst :P |
| 00:55.31 | in1t3r_ | Some guys will never learn about the sector sizes for installation of boot manager and partition table :) |
| 00:56.19 | edju | LtL, How do I do that? |
| 00:56.54 | LtL | edju: settings/network |
| 00:57.17 | in1t3r_ | The best thing for them is dd bs=512 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde count=1 :) |
| 00:58.54 | wonderfulmee | I don't feel like setting up dovecot |
| 00:59.53 | wonderfulmee | I've been setting up postgresql replication back in them 90's |
| 01:00.11 | wonderfulmee | there wasn't anything nice about it |
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| 01:00.56 | wonderfulmee | can I just like set up a docker? |
| 01:01.14 | wonderfulmee | can I modify a docker? |
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| 01:01.50 | wonderfulmee | as in instead of PAM_usernames go to txt_plaintext_passwords instead? |
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| 01:02.20 | wonderfulmee | I'd mainly like a superusername |
| 01:02.29 | wonderfulmee | that has power over all the maildirs |
| 01:02.55 | wonderfulmee | that would all be housed under /var/www/dovecot |
| 01:03.02 | wonderfulmee | can I do that? thank you |
| 01:03.48 | wonderfulmee | IMAP shit is hard. |
| 01:05.03 | wonderfulmee | stealing other people's mail is easy. |
| 01:05.10 | wonderfulmee | making it all proper is hard. |
| 01:06.18 | wonderfulmee | those included are Latvian fascists. |
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| 01:06.52 | wonderfulmee | the lists are distributed like candy. |
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| 01:12.32 | madsara | I'm having an issues searching the bug tracker.. is it me or is it overly complicatedd? |
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| 01:31.29 | qu1nn-1 | been an owncloud user on opensuse for years. i typically set it and forget it (as long as it works, so I dont really tinker). I need to update OS (and I want to get on track with Nextcloud) and am thinking of going to doing debian... anyone here use nextcloud? any major issues? |
| 01:32.50 | erle | qu1nn-1: have recently moved to nextcloud myself after dragging my feet for to long :) very happy, nothing to complain about |
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| 01:36.28 | qu1nn-1 | erle- thanks. Been using stalling myself- ownclouds been good but i want to stick with the founders ideals... |
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| 01:40.42 | qqumber | hi |
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| 01:41.06 | keantoken | Hi everyone. |
| 01:41.20 | keantoken | ALSA has 2 "default " audio devices. |
| 01:41.25 | keantoken | How do I fix this? |
| 01:41.28 | qqumber | social "cognition" is primitive and all just about emotions |
| 01:41.59 | keantoken | It's sort of a template really. It helps keep us from degenerating too far. |
| 01:42.15 | keantoken | But alsa? |
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| 01:44.07 | keantoken | And my soundcards list is practically spam. I need to disable the HDMI outputs I don't use. How do I do that? |
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| 01:47.11 | keantoken | I suspect that lots of people have these problems and just try to ignore it because of just how difficult it is to figure out how to configure alsa. |
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| 01:51.41 | erle | keantoken: thats a bit odd, tried configuring with Pavucontrol? https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio |
| 01:52.54 | keantoken | I don't have pulseaudio installed. |
| 01:53.59 | erle | ah, what does `cat /proc/asound/cards` tell you ? |
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| 01:55.03 | keantoken | $ cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 01:55.04 | keantoken | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.04 | keantoken | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.04 | keantoken | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.04 | keantoken | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:55.43 | keantoken | oops. |
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| 01:56.39 | keantoken | So BOTH cards are HDA Intel, so I can't just disable a module, it would be the snd_hda_intel module and that would disable both cards. |
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| 01:57.12 | keantoken | Which begs the question why ALSA does not have a sane way of disabling a card. |
| 01:57.38 | keantoken | Or maybe it does, just no one uses it because no one can figure out how. |
| 01:58.26 | erle | keantoken: been awhile for me, but i think it would involve a config for .asoundrc in your case http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel |
| 01:59.12 | keantoken | My .asoundrc is the plain "always works" version, just two entries. |
| 01:59.33 | keantoken | Something else is generating all the extra stuff, which I have no control over. |
| 01:59.49 | erle | keantoken: try using the parm: id, model options for the module |
| 02:00.59 | keantoken | The second "default" device doesn't play because it refers to something that doesn't exist. |
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| 02:01.34 | keantoken | What makes this infuriating is there is no alsa-base package I can purge and reinstall to at least get back to square one. |
| 02:02.25 | keantoken | I plugged in a USB DAC and after I unplugged it, it's entries were still in the soundcard list and everything gave me nonexistent card errors. |
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| 02:06.48 | keantoken | What do you mean about options for the module? |
| 02:06.52 | keantoken | Is there a manpage about that? |
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| 02:07.45 | erle | keantoken: see the alsa-project link, you can pass module parameters and target the board |
| 02:08.35 | erle | keantoken: something like #6 here http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards#Ordering_multiple_cards_of_the_same_type |
| 02:10.41 | keantoken | Thanks |
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| 02:36.29 | xfile | anyone no with terminal got autocompletion most advanced ? |
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| 02:38.01 | Cerastes | anyone manage to get Pidgin working on ARM? |
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| 02:39.52 | xfile | Cerastes :) well what the isuss ? |
| 02:41.27 | qqumber | xfile: I'm going to cut out masks to wear at my 42th birthay from your skin with surgical precision and surgical tools under very safe narcosis, you will be safe and I'll apply synthetic steralized skin, so you'll recover well. |
| 02:42.47 | bazhang | !ops | qqumber |
| 02:42.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang complains about: | qqumber |
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| 02:47.32 | xfile | qqumber sad story heard somewhere before it :D |
| 02:48.13 | xfile | qqumber why for u masks ? :D |
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| 03:22.20 | Schwarzbaer | Hi. I just installed the package fonts-humor-sans. After that, I ran a little matplotlib script that uses that font, but it couldn't find it. Do I have to do something to, I don't know, refresh the database of available fonts? |
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| 03:27.58 | Schwarzbaer | Hmm, according to fc-list it *is* available... |
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| 04:29.55 | z8z | after upgrade to debian 9 i lost all saved kate session... where did they move the config files? |
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| 04:44.51 | wonderfulmee | do any of you happen to know how to turn a maildir (in a unix sense: "cur/new/old") into HTML? |
| 04:45.10 | wonderfulmee | a local maildir. |
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| 04:46.32 | wonderfulmee | https://github.com/RaymiiOrg/NoPriv is fine, but doesn't understand local Maildirs |
| 04:47.38 | wonderfulmee | you've been most helpful. |
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| 04:56.02 | ofg|brtr | I am looking for a system to process my SERVER logs and show detailed analysis of the logs. errors fails warns and such. a system to get iput from apache logs ssh logs crontab logs .... |
| 04:56.12 | ofg|brtr | I looked at goaccess but it had very rudimentary functions. |
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| 04:56.38 | ofg|brtr | I looked at goaccess but it had very rudimentary functions. |
| 04:58.42 | wonderfulmee | ofg|brtr, looks like you need a log analyzer. I wonder if such a thing exists. |
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| 05:04.44 | cartman | hi guys |
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| 05:08.59 | Canucktux_ | wuddup cartman |
| 05:09.40 | cartman | I have some problems, can you help me? |
| 05:13.33 | cartman | look https://pastebin.com/hKqy7v1M |
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| 05:22.06 | OS-29731 | !DJ |
| 05:22.06 | dpkg | one of the most prominant free software developers around, brian behlendorf, is a DJ. He is one of the core developers of apache. And now as a sidelight to DJ'ing and doing apache work, does sourceXchange.com. Djibouti |
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| 05:22.26 | OS-29731 | !dj |
| 05:22.27 | dpkg | one of the most prominant free software developers around, brian behlendorf, is a DJ. He is one of the core developers of apache. And now as a sidelight to DJ'ing and doing apache work, does sourceXchange.com. Djibouti |
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| 05:29.47 | cartman_ | hi |
| 05:30.10 | cartman_ | I have a problem with my repository |
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| 05:30.44 | cartman_ | Could someone guide me? |
| 05:34.08 | lendo | !ask |
| 05:34.08 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 05:35.18 | cartman_ | thank you man, I have a problem with "apt-get update" here is the error https://pastebin.com/hKqy7v1M |
| 05:36.22 | lendo | cartman_: can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list.d |
| 05:37.11 | cartman_ | https://pastebin.com/hKqy7v1M |
| 05:37.14 | cartman_ | sorry |
| 05:37.18 | cartman_ | webupd8team-java.list |
| 05:37.21 | cartman_ | is only 1 file |
| 05:39.31 | lendo | you mixed ubuntu rep with debiam |
| 05:39.34 | lendo | you mixed ubuntu rep with debian |
| 05:40.10 | cartman_ | So ... I just delete those files? |
| 05:41.04 | wonderfulmee | abolutely go ahead with deleting those pesky files. |
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| 05:46.07 | cartman_ | Perfect, no longer comes that error but I continue with this message https://pastebin.com/pFUkdscR |
| 05:46.51 | xormor | good morning. can you explain me what "Wayland" is? It is supposed to replace X, it is a windowing system, correct? |
| 05:46.51 | lendo | paste /etc/apt/source.list |
| 05:47.06 | peterrooney | dpkg: frankendebian |
| 05:47.06 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 05:47.43 | lendo | this msg is for you cartman_ |
| 05:49.48 | cartman_ | https://pastebin.com/0tdDBheG |
| 05:50.39 | lendo | erase everything ubuntu |
| 05:50.44 | peterrooney | cartman_: /msg dpkg frankendebian |
| 05:51.00 | peterrooney | cartman_: you are going to have great trouble convincing ##linux to help unless you can tell them what you are *REALLY* trying to accomplish. |
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| 05:51.36 | xormor | am installing "mate-desktop-environment" with apt right now. |
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| 05:52.10 | peterrooney | cartman_: you're also going to have great trouble convincing anyone _here_ to help unless you can somehow convince us that you have nuked, paved, and re-installed from scratch. |
| 05:52.38 | lendo | cartman_: next time you install debian, dont mix with ppa of ubuntu... stick to debian.. |
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| 06:33.10 | Barre_ | echo 'Europe/Stockholm' > /etc/timezone && dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive tzdata < this reconfigures tzdata to Europe/Stockholm timezone in jessie, but not in stretch. what changed? |
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| 06:46.02 | nkuttler | !tell Barre_ about timezone |
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| 07:05.26 | Barre_ | nkuttler: thanks, doesn't update the /etc/timezone info though, tried using debconf-set-selections and dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive, doesn't work either |
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| 07:07.16 | foul_owl | Where can I download a debian live cd that comes with firmware? I can't download the firmware on the target system as the wifi card itself needs it. Thanks! |
| 07:09.23 | Barre_ | foul_owl: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ maybe |
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| 07:32.57 | mr__tea | lets see how this goes |
| 07:33.03 | mr__tea | im upgrading debian 8 to 9 |
| 07:33.05 | mr__tea | :) |
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| 07:35.51 | anjum | I kind of regret upgrading because window contents now flicker when I scroll, mostly have myself to blame. |
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| 07:37.36 | ayansh | Hi #Debian, |
| 07:37.46 | anjum | Greetings ayansh. |
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| 07:39.37 | mr__tea | what is the recommended procedure to upgrade to debian 9? |
| 07:39.39 | ayansh | i am facing issue with the deletion of partition table on sdcard, i tried fdisk, parted, gparted, dd, diskutils-on-mac, formatting of sdcard with canon camera etc, however partition table is intact. |
| 07:39.50 | ayansh | https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/unKEZW6cEbxT2YrMs8oG5Q |
| 07:41.01 | ayansh | i used this sdcard for raspberry pi for alomost a year, want to have some other distro on pi, however not able to get anything written to the sdcard. |
| 07:41.54 | nkuttler | !tell mr__tea about release notes |
| 07:42.18 | ayansh | query is not directly related to debian, however i am trying dd/fdisk/parted etc on my debian desktop. probably some clue? |
| 07:42.48 | anjum | Are you following the specific procedures for installing a distro for RPi? Because things like booting info needs to be on the SD card as well I believe. |
| 07:43.49 | ayansh | anjum: Yes, i am following relevant procedure - same which i used with other 4 pi's which i have. |
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| 07:45.19 | brian|lfs | so far so good got server 2016 installed on KVM qemu using lib-virt manager |
| 07:46.26 | anjum | Goodness, I only one Pi (the original, from about 2012). Though I haven't flashed the SD card in ages so it seems you ultimately have better knowledge of doing this than I do. |
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| 07:49.50 | brian|lfs | I haven't done much with my PI once I realized the lack of processor |
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| 07:50.34 | brian|lfs | well I knew what it had for specs when I purchased it but when I tried to set it up I realzied I wouldn't be doing any mdeia box lol |
| 07:50.45 | anjum | Neither have I. I think all the 'make a small robot' |
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| 07:50.55 | anjum | stuff is quite dull. |
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| 07:51.41 | brian|lfs | I suppose making it control a 3D printer would work fine or control a webcam mounted on one of my 3D printers |
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| 07:53.46 | anjum | I'm so behind on the times... 3D printers, I'm yet to get into them. |
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| 07:54.51 | pingfloyd | those are basically toys |
| 07:55.23 | anjum | The Raspberry Pi, or 3D printers? Or both? |
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| 07:56.09 | pingfloyd | pis and robot kits etc |
| 07:56.16 | pingfloyd | 3D printers for the most part too |
| 07:56.27 | pingfloyd | I supposed an industrial one would be a different story |
| 07:56.37 | pie3 | 3D printers can be integrated to 96boards? |
| 07:56.40 | anjum | Yeah, I don't doubt it. |
| 07:56.42 | pingfloyd | but most of the 3D printers can't work with material worth much |
| 07:56.52 | pie3 | i guess pi shall be soon replaced by 96boards |
| 07:57.50 | pingfloyd | aside from assembly lines, what's the point in building a robot other than for the fun of it |
| 07:58.37 | pingfloyd | it's not like you can build robot to actually be a *useful* assistant |
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| 07:59.01 | anjum | True. I suppose it's just an exercise in knowledge and hand work. |
| 07:59.32 | pingfloyd | sometimes you build things for the fun of building them |
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| 08:03.00 | mr__tea | nkuttler: thanks |
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| 08:07.20 | nvz | nm, I'm an idiot.. heh.. I accidentally moved the shebang down to the 2nd line somehow.. caused all kinds of issues :-P |
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| 08:09.02 | nvz | just remember, if she don't bang on the first line, then no shebang |
| 08:10.16 | mr__tea | nvz: heh |
| 08:10.30 | pie3 | can someone explain me what is nmcli radio wif |
| 08:10.31 | pie3 | i |
| 08:10.57 | pingfloyd | nmcli is network manager (CLI) |
| 08:12.40 | nvz | mr__tea: yeah I'm done.. I just came here to ask a dumb question about why my python script was suddenly trying to start X and acces /var/mail/bs4 .. but at least someone thought the pun was funny.. I'm out. |
| 08:12.46 | pie3 | what is meanign of nmcli radio |
| 08:12.54 | pie3 | i foudn 4 results when queried it |
| 08:12.56 | pie3 | pingfloyd: |
| 08:13.07 | pingfloyd | where did you see that name? |
| 08:13.07 | mr__tea | ? |
| 08:13.16 | pie3 | which name? pingfloyd |
| 08:13.23 | pingfloyd | "nmcli radio" |
| 08:13.43 | pie3 | a friend said to use me this command "nmcli radio wifi" to connect to wifi |
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| 08:13.55 | pie3 | my task is : use a terminal to coonnect/disconnect wifi |
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| 08:14.02 | pie3 | instead of gui |
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| 08:14.05 | pingfloyd | I see it now |
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| 08:14.13 | pie3 | i want to terminalize everything and avoid gui |
| 08:14.18 | pingfloyd | that's the actual command, so radio and wifi are arguments to nmcli |
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| 08:14.57 | pie3 | i cant find wifi as argument listed in man page of nmcli |
| 08:15.02 | pie3 | i can find radio |
| 08:15.20 | pie3 | what is object in linux/terminal? |
| 08:15.26 | pie3 | radio is listed under objects |
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| 08:15.33 | pie3 | in man page info of nmcli |
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| 08:15.57 | pie3 | pingfloyd: |
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| 08:16.11 | jmcnaught | pie3: there is a section called "RADIO TRANSMISSION CONTROL COMMANDS" in nmcli(1) |
| 08:16.19 | pie3 | let me see |
| 08:16.22 | pingfloyd | pie3: for me man nmcli shows it |
| 08:16.42 | pie3 | oh my error |
| 08:16.48 | pie3 | actually i was not reading man |
| 08:16.52 | pingfloyd | e.g. radio wifi on, radio wwan on, etc |
| 08:16.56 | pie3 | but i was reading just the result of nmcli |
| 08:17.16 | pie3 | it gave me some options and some objects |
| 08:17.18 | pingfloyd | "Use this object to show radio switches status, or enable and disable the switches." |
| 08:17.19 | pie3 | where radio was listed |
| 08:17.53 | jmcnaught | pie3: are you trying to enable/disable the wifi radio, or are you trying to connect to an access point? |
| 08:18.23 | pie3 | i dont know what is acess point jmcnaught |
| 08:18.23 | rephlexie | isnt radio just an on / off state? |
| 08:18.25 | pie3 | can you explain me |
| 08:18.44 | jmcnaught | pie3: a wifi network |
| 08:18.44 | pie3 | i guess in my simpler terminology/non tech language i want to turn on/off wifi from command line |
| 08:18.50 | pingfloyd | rephlexie: on/off for each "radio switch" |
| 08:18.56 | pingfloyd | rephlexie: or all |
| 08:18.56 | pie3 | so AP is same as wifi? |
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| 08:19.18 | jmcnaught | no an AP is the part of the wifi network that your client device connects to |
| 08:19.33 | pingfloyd | pie3: AP is the in to the network |
| 08:19.43 | pie3 | ok to make it more clear let me first connect to AP and try it from gui |
| 08:19.47 | pie3 | can yuo help me how to do it |
| 08:19.49 | rephlexie | pingfloyd, yeah was guessing something like that, never seen it used tbh |
| 08:19.50 | pie3 | so i can learn it better |
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| 08:20.12 | pie3 | ok |
| 08:20.13 | jmcnaught | pie3: do what? |
| 08:20.20 | pie3 | i guess it is time to share my set up |
| 08:20.25 | pie3 | i use internet on laptop like this way |
| 08:20.36 | pie3 | internet---phone---hotspot---------------wifi--laptop |
| 08:20.40 | pie3 | did you get set up? |
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| 08:20.53 | pingfloyd | why phone in there? |
| 08:20.56 | pie3 | i turn on hotspot in phone |
| 08:21.00 | pie3 | and wifi in laptop |
| 08:21.07 | pingfloyd | ok, so phone is the hotspot? |
| 08:21.10 | pie3 | i dont have wired internet connection pingfloyd |
| 08:21.23 | pie3 | i have itnernet from phone |
| 08:21.26 | pingfloyd | then phone is basically your "AP" |
| 08:21.40 | pingfloyd | for your laptop and other devices to connect to your network with |
| 08:21.56 | Tonkadoro | could a person use a combine to harvest hemp seed? |
| 08:22.00 | pie3 | so AP==hotspot> |
| 08:22.01 | pie3 | ? |
| 08:22.05 | pie3 | in this context |
| 08:22.06 | pingfloyd | pretty much |
| 08:22.14 | pie3 | a device which provides internet to all |
| 08:22.19 | pingfloyd | I think hotspot is more a buzzword version or something |
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| 08:22.35 | pie3 | so in case if i had wired internet connection(i guess that wire first come to my home into router) |
| 08:22.39 | pie3 | so in that case router is AP? |
| 08:22.58 | pingfloyd | I guess you could say hotspot is more vague description |
| 08:23.04 | familiargalaxy | An AP is differentiated from a hotspot, which is the physical location where Wi-Fi access to a WLAN is available. ~ Wikipedia |
| 08:23.12 | pie3 | that is what android writes pingfloyd |
| 08:23.17 | pingfloyd | a hotspot could be an AP, wireless router, phone, etc |
| 08:23.31 | pingfloyd | another computer or device |
| 08:23.39 | pie3 | wiki is always tough for me to understand familiargalaxy |
| 08:23.44 | pie3 | i need wiki mentors alwayz |
| 08:24.16 | pie3 | so let me put it simple |
| 08:24.22 | familiargalaxy | pie3 no probs we will help you get thro this :) |
| 08:24.27 | pie3 | so do i have 2 ways? |
| 08:24.30 | pie3 | 1) wifi connection |
| 08:24.33 | pie3 | 2) AP connection? |
| 08:24.36 | pie3 | with my current set up |
| 08:24.41 | pie3 | i guess no since both are same |
| 08:25.07 | pingfloyd | your phone is the AP in this case |
| 08:25.16 | familiargalaxy | internet---phone---hotspot---------------wifi--laptop , i understood this setup but what's the problem now ? |
| 08:25.29 | pie3 | soemone said me that |
| 08:25.33 | jmcnaught | pie3: "/msg dpkg period" it might not be relevant what an AP is exactly, I asked my question because you said you were trying to connect to wifi, then said more stuff about the nmcli radio command |
| 08:25.45 | pie3 | i should use command "nmcli radio wifi" to connect to phone hotspot |
| 08:26.02 | pie3 | i am debugging/interpreting that command |
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| 08:26.37 | pingfloyd | is there a reason you picked nmcli to connect? |
| 08:26.48 | pie3 | pingfloyd: someone informed me |
| 08:26.51 | pingfloyd | you have many option for wifi in linux |
| 08:26.54 | pie3 | any other command exist? |
| 08:26.55 | pingfloyd | options* |
| 08:26.58 | pie3 | let me try all of them |
| 08:27.04 | pingfloyd | you could use the gui network manager instead |
| 08:27.05 | pie3 | since i am learnign linux parallely |
| 08:27.11 | pie3 | i dont want to use gui |
| 08:27.11 | pingfloyd | it would probably be easier for you |
| 08:27.13 | jmcnaught | pie3: there is also nmtui |
| 08:27.18 | pie3 | i want to be terminalize |
| 08:27.29 | pingfloyd | or use wpa_supplicant directly |
| 08:27.32 | pie3 | i love complex stuff pingfloyd |
| 08:27.46 | pingfloyd | if you're want complicated why involved nm at all? |
| 08:27.54 | pie3 | nm? |
| 08:28.02 | pingfloyd | network manager |
| 08:28.08 | rephlexie | pie3, ignore the radio state, try nmcli con show, see if your phone is listed |
| 08:28.14 | pie3 | how to use nmtui & wpa_supllicant |
| 08:28.21 | pie3 | ok let me see |
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| 08:29.07 | pie3 | yes rephlexie that is a great list |
| 08:29.15 | pie3 | i can see neigbourhood wifi too |
| 08:29.19 | pie3 | just like gui option |
| 08:29.24 | pie3 | how to disconnect to wifi |
| 08:29.28 | pie3 | from cli |
| 08:29.31 | pie3 | and connect to it |
| 08:29.38 | pie3 | rephlexie: |
| 08:29.39 | pingfloyd | pie3: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Using_the_NetworkManager_Command_Line_Tool_nmcli.html |
| 08:30.06 | pingfloyd | there's a good tutorial on nmcli |
| 08:30.11 | pie3 | why i never heard redhat fedora when i was searching for linux to be installed on laptop |
| 08:30.13 | pie3 | i heard the names |
| 08:30.17 | pie3 | of ubuntu |
| 08:30.18 | pie3 | debian |
| 08:30.19 | pie3 | arch |
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| 08:30.45 | pie3 | mint |
| 08:30.49 | pie3 | then i choose mint |
| 08:30.51 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell pie3 about period |
| 08:31.00 | pingfloyd | lol |
| 08:31.25 | rephlexie | pie3, pingfloyd linked what you need, setup a connection profile and your set. |
| 08:33.32 | anjum | man nmcli |
| 08:33.36 | pie3 | how to set up 2 wifi connection from laptop? |
| 08:33.52 | pie3 | one for testing i.e. connect/disconnect and another for internet connection uninterrupted |
| 08:34.04 | pie3 | in my context |
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| 08:40.17 | pie3 | pingfloyd: rephlexie jmcnaught |
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| 08:41.31 | pie3 | what is diff between wifi-hw and wifi wwan-hw and wwan |
| 08:41.33 | pie3 | what does it mean |
| 08:41.39 | pie3 | i found them in result |
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| 08:43.29 | familiargalaxy | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/283722/how-to-connect-to-wifi-from-command-line describes 3 methods to connect to internet |
| 08:43.39 | familiargalaxy | 2nd one is using nmcli |
| 08:44.41 | jmcnaught | pie3: there are also some methods described on https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse however please do not highlight people unless you are responding directly to them |
| 08:45.25 | pie3 | i highlighted only those who are not sleeping yet |
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| 08:51.45 | pie3 | is there anything like virtual terminal? |
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| 08:55.17 | vlt | Hello. Does anyone know if there's a gnupg command to import all the keys missing in --check-sigs? |
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| 09:02.20 | familiargalaxy | vlt: what are you trying to do ? |
| 09:02.36 | anjum | vlt: I'm not familiar with using gnupg, but would it be possible to pipe the output of that command, parse it, and pipe into a command for importing? Or have I incorrectly assumed what precisely you're doing? |
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| 09:04.16 | vlt | anjum: Yes. |
| 09:04.31 | vlt | vlt: It's right there in the /topic of #gnupg |
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| 09:15.40 | JZA | hi I am having an issue routing my site . |
| 09:15.49 | JZA | At the moment I have a A Record pointing to the IP of my server |
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| 09:17.28 | JZA | when restarting apache I am getting: Restarting web server: apache2apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName |
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| 09:18.50 | JZA | not sure what I am missing... ServerName has blahblah.com |
| 09:19.12 | JZA | ServerAlias www.blahblah.com |
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| 09:27.59 | anjum | The 'Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName' is warning, not an error. Everything should be fine. |
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| 09:33.11 | pie3 | is it possible to disconnect hardware or software individually from terminal? |
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| 09:36.42 | GNU\colossus | pie3, what do you want to do? |
| 09:37.04 | pie3 | nmcli radio |
| 09:37.04 | pie3 | WIFI-HW WIFI WWAN-HW WWAN |
| 09:37.04 | pie3 | enabled enabled enabled enabled |
| 09:37.15 | pie3 | i want to disable and see what happens one by one GNU\colossus |
| 09:37.39 | pie3 | i guess wifi & wwan is wif-soft and wwan-soft respectively, correct? GNU\colossus |
| 09:38.10 | GNU\colossus | well, networkmanager might be able to do that for you. if not, you'll have to figure out which underlying device (and driver) is represented by each, and then disable that. |
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| 09:38.34 | GNU\colossus | (if all else fails, you can just disable the device on its bus/unload its driver) |
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| 09:43.36 | pie3 | nmcli device |
| 09:43.37 | pie3 | DEVICE TYPE STATE CONNECTION |
| 09:43.37 | pie3 | wlp2s0 wifi connected Auto iPhone |
| 09:43.37 | pie3 | enp3s0f1 ethernet unavailable -- |
| 09:43.37 | pie3 | bond0 bond unmanaged -- |
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| 09:43.53 | pie3 | what is bond0 lo and dummy0 |
| 09:43.55 | pie3 | GNU\colossus: |
| 09:44.27 | pie3 | is it possible to change device name from wlp2so to xxxx(user defined)? |
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| 09:44.56 | GNU\colossus | dumm0, I don't know. lo is the loopback interface, for host-local communication over sockets. bond0 is a (probably unused) combined device of at least two network devices. |
| 09:45.18 | GNU\colossus | dummy0* |
| 09:45.29 | GNU\colossus | pie3, yes, you can assign custom network device names via udev rules |
| 09:45.55 | GNU\colossus | check /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 09:46.06 | GNU\colossus | (hope that's still true for stretch) |
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| 10:00.40 | pie3 | GNU\colossus: Could not find "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules". |
| 10:00.46 | pie3 | a prompt message |
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| 10:04.46 | GNU\colossus | pie3, maybe you have to create it |
| 10:05.03 | GNU\colossus | with "predictable network interface names", it's not a required file to have any more, I guess |
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| 10:11.05 | JZA | hi anyone can help me debug apache I have some ssl sites and I am getting an error from apache saying: [debug] ssl_engine_init.c(1149): Init: SSL server IP/port overlap: yoursite.com:443 |
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| 10:13.58 | apollo13 | JZA: that on it's own is a debug message, what is the actual error shown? |
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| 10:15.24 | JZA | well the error shown when I tried to reload is that it cant read the domain |
| 10:15.26 | JZA | apache2apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName |
| 10:15.46 | JZA | but I didnt know which file was it complaining from |
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| 10:16.23 | JZA | apollo13: I change the LogLevel to determine which file was the one causing the issue, aparently it was the mysite-ssl.conf on line 2 |
| 10:16.49 | JZA | which is the <VirtualHost *:443> |
| 10:16.51 | apollo13 | "Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName" -- that is also not an error but a warning |
| 10:17.03 | JZA | umm... ok |
| 10:17.11 | JZA | well yes is not crashing but is also not working |
| 10:17.37 | pie3 | i can open google.com from browser |
| 10:17.42 | JZA | I am having virtual domains, and the newdomain.com instead of going to ~/newsite/ it goes to ~/oldsite/ |
| 10:17.43 | pie3 | when i enter search term xxx |
| 10:17.58 | pie3 | it displays results properly, but when i click the result link it is not openign in the tab |
| 10:17.59 | pie3 | why? |
| 10:18.02 | JZA | which I guess the default from 127.0.1.1 |
| 10:18.13 | pie3 | display this error "Server not found" |
| 10:18.17 | apollo13 | JZA: why do you even have 127.0.1.1 there? |
| 10:18.47 | JZA | you are asking me why the warning shows 127.0.1.1? I dunno. |
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| 10:19.03 | JZA | is just the warning I get |
| 10:19.12 | apollo13 | I'd expect 127.0.0.1, 127.0.1.1 is somewhat weird |
| 10:19.19 | JZA | yeah weird |
| 10:19.33 | pie3 | i can see linkedin.com and google.com only opens |
| 10:19.41 | pie3 | bing.com udemy.com are not opening why |
| 10:19.50 | pie3 | and many other websites are not openign |
| 10:19.50 | JZA | oh well actually I know now, /etc/hosts shows 127.0.1.1 domain domain |
| 10:20.17 | apollo13 | ok that would explain that at least |
| 10:20.29 | apollo13 | now make sure you have properly set ServerName in every vhost |
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| 10:22.08 | JZA | define properly I did a head -5 *|grep ServerName and got a list of all them, and I dont see nothing out of the ordinary |
| 10:23.05 | JZA | maybe ssl is not working properly |
| 10:23.28 | apollo13 | well what exactly is not working⦠|
| 10:24.32 | JZA | well that warning I get on server reload combined with the new site not routing to the correct Document Root |
| 10:25.04 | apollo13 | show the output of apachectl -S |
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| 10:27.56 | JZA | https://pastebin.mozilla.org/9026622 |
| 10:28.03 | JZA | I dont see the new domain/site |
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| 10:29.23 | JZA | maybe I missed something |
| 10:30.13 | apollo13 | did you activate it |
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| 10:30.57 | JZA | oh right I did but I disactivate it later... one sec |
| 10:31.44 | JZA | ok now I see |
| 10:31.59 | JZA | port 80 namevhost newsite.com (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/newsite:1) |
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| 10:32.10 | JZA | but still not working |
| 10:32.43 | JZA | https://pastebin.mozilla.org/9026623 |
| 10:33.31 | apollo13 | well which is your new host? |
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| 10:34.18 | JZA | newsite |
| 10:34.25 | apollo13 | JZA: btw with regards to your warnings, port 80 namevhost 127.0.1.1 (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default:1) is missing ServerName |
| 10:34.38 | JZA | oh |
| 10:36.09 | JZA | I added one on 000-default but still getting the same warning |
| 10:36.16 | JZA | I reload the service |
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| 10:37.01 | JZA | did the a2ensite as well. |
| 10:37.48 | JZA | this is frustrating |
| 10:37.58 | apollo13 | a2ensite is only needed once since it is a symlink |
| 10:38.14 | apollo13 | also do a restart instead of a reload if something is not working |
| 10:38.16 | JZA | ok |
| 10:39.00 | JZA | I did but same situation |
| 10:39.33 | apollo13 | still "Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName" ? |
| 10:39.47 | pie3 | can you see my message |
| 10:39.55 | JZA | yes |
| 10:40.38 | apollo13 | well in the worst case put ServerName localhost into the global config |
| 10:40.42 | apollo13 | that should take care of that |
| 10:40.54 | apollo13 | apachectl -S now should certainly no more show 127.0.1.1 as servername |
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| 10:43.06 | JZA | yeah it quiet on that end |
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| 10:43.57 | apollo13 | ok, so if you type curl -I yourdomain -- what do you get? |
| 10:43.59 | Snoonet | help! the EPA is trying to have me assassinated |
| 10:44.03 | JZA | maybe I miss something on the DNS end, I only have an A record to the VPS IP |
| 10:44.17 | apollo13 | that is enough |
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| 10:44.34 | JZA | is working now |
| 10:45.16 | JZA | great thanks |
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| 10:46.18 | Snoonet | OMG |
| 10:46.24 | Snoonet | The EPA is trying to kill me |
| 10:46.29 | Snoonet | they send men in black suits |
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| 10:47.08 | Snoonet | i see SUV with tinted windows park outside my house. I shine a laser pointer at it, and then out of nowhere this big dog starts chasing me |
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| 10:47.24 | Snoonet | i think they dropped the dog out of a stealth helicopter to distract me |
| 10:48.14 | apollo13 | Snoonet: that is pretty much off-topic for that channel |
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| 10:49.01 | Snoonet | apollo13: are you a fed agent? |
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| 10:52.33 | Snoonet | mniip works for the Trump Force, a secret division of the CIA tasked with destroying Linux, because Microsoft paid them to do it. |
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| 11:07.27 | othias | hey guys, has anybody else been experiencing random firefox crashes since last couple of apt-get updates? |
| 11:07.37 | othias | on stable |
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| 11:11.04 | sbine | othias: yep, i just rm my ~/.mozilla dir to fix it |
| 11:11.40 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
| 11:11.46 | othias | sbine: I just realized stretch is now the stable, im still on jessie, are you too? guess I will upgrade soon anyway |
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| 11:13.10 | sbine | othias: i'm running jessie/sid atm |
| 11:13.29 | sbine | on differents machines i mean |
| 11:13.48 | othias | sbine: ok, I'll try rming the mozilla dir then thanks :) |
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| 11:19.42 | Aebian | hmmm I want to do something special I guess. Have a Debian and Windows machine online at the same time and share drives for Downloads, Documents etc. (basiclly home drive). So I just switch between them with lets say a kvm hdmi switch. What would you recommend? |
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| 11:27.21 | guest____ | can i get the sources.list for debian jessie? |
| 11:27.29 | guest____ | er, wait stretch |
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| 11:30.54 | guest____ | dpkg: thanks |
| 11:30.54 | dpkg | guest____: no worries |
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| 11:49.34 | pie3 | AP is hardware? |
| 11:49.41 | pie3 | <pingfloyd> a hotspot could be an AP, wireless router, phone, etc |
| 11:49.50 | pie3 | can you link me AP hardware? |
| 11:49.53 | moriarty | https://www.forbes.com/sites/bishopjordan/2017/07/07/bitcoin-millionaire/ |
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| 11:56.47 | kaimo | hey all been working through my l9inux book and reached a command "info" however returns "bash: info: command not found" does debian not have info command as standard or am i mixxed up |
| 11:57.39 | nkuttler | kaimo: apparently not |
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| 11:57.55 | nkuttler | kaimo: you probably want to install bash-doc as well |
| 11:58.12 | kaimo | bash doc in short is? |
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| 11:58.23 | nkuttler | kaimo: ? |
| 11:58.30 | kaimo | is is bash doc? |
| 11:58.35 | moriarty | hehe |
| 11:58.42 | moriarty | nkuttler doesn't get enough bitcoins for this |
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| 12:01.23 | peterrooney | kaimo: debian doesn't come with everything installed by default. Try installing the command-not-found, info, and apt-file packages. "apt-get install bash-doc command-not-found info apt-file ; apt-file update" |
| 12:02.21 | kaimo | i understand its wasnt so much a problem more just checking its wasnt incorrect taht its not installed lol alls well |
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| 12:29.47 | kang0 | Suggest me some programing/comp related books I should buy |
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| 12:30.16 | moriarty | kang0, why? |
| 12:30.17 | Lowl3v3l | kang0: two that you dont even need to buy : "How to design Programs" and "The Little Schemer". |
| 12:31.16 | Lowl3v3l | moriarty: in general, he's kind of a troll ( at least if i am allowed to mix my experiences from other channels in) ;) he doesn't care about channel topics... |
| 12:31.51 | kang0 | I have many ebooks |
| 12:31.55 | kang0 | Tons of |
| 12:32.10 | kang0 | I want to buy 2 to 5 printed copy books |
| 12:32.12 | moriarty | Lowl3v3l ah :) |
| 12:32.21 | kang0 | Need suggestion Lowl3v3l |
| 12:32.24 | moriarty | kang0, why do you want to buy books when you can buy bitcoins? |
| 12:32.31 | moriarty | Lowl3v3l imma troll him back :) |
| 12:32.53 | kang0 | moriarty since I don't need coins |
| 12:32.56 | Lowl3v3l | moriarty: so, i usually just answer him in a way that might help others. Those two books i named are actually brilliant :P |
| 12:33.08 | moriarty | Lowl3v3l, cool :) first time i've heard of them |
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| 12:34.07 | Lowl3v3l | moriarty: you should definitely take a look into HtdP . Its ... different to say the least^^ And its free ;) http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/matthias/HtDP2e/ |
| 12:34.11 | nkuttler | q |
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| 12:36.34 | moriarty | Lowl3v3l, interesting i wonder what made the author start with Racket |
| 12:36.40 | moriarty | nice book, thanks for the heads up |
| 12:37.13 | Lowl3v3l | moriarty: well this i can explain since i am somewqhat deeply involved with racket myself ;) |
| 12:37.26 | moriarty | Lowl3v3l, i see :) |
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| 12:38.26 | Lowl3v3l | moriarty: firstly, i'd consider racket one of the absolutely best beginner languages out there( even beeting my former favorite recommendation, haskell). And secondly, the authors are some of the biggest driving forces behind racket themselves, so its not a big surprise ;) |
| 12:39.04 | moriarty | Lowl3v3l, i see :) well it is very Lisp-like |
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| 12:39.33 | Lowl3v3l | moriarty: it is a lisp, yeah. Not quite like common lisp in all the important ways, it is descended from scheme :) |
| 12:40.01 | moriarty | i see |
| 12:40.09 | moriarty | well, good to learn something new |
| 12:40.26 | Lowl3v3l | i'll stop evangelising now, i promise :D |
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| 12:41.32 | moriarty | Lowl3v3l, it's my turn to evangelise, have you bought bitcoins? :) |
| 12:42.34 | Lowl3v3l | moriarty: nope, to poor for it. And i do not really like such rather risky purchases. I'm more in the noble metal-camp ;) |
| 12:42.47 | moriarty | Lowl3v3l, heh ok |
| 12:43.24 | Lowl3v3l | moriarty: i am just to much of a gambler for bitcoin :D |
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| 12:43.46 | mr__tea | good this debian upgrade went ok |
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| 12:43.59 | mr__tea | I had to fiddle a bit but not much ,so great! |
| 12:46.07 | OS-29731 | !cory |
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| 12:46.35 | dpkg | somebody said barry was a KDE frontend to the BSD ports system, http://frerich.ath.cx/barry |
| 12:46.53 | OS-29731 | !cory |
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| 12:50.37 | mernilio | Hi all! |
| 12:52.01 | mernilio | you know.. when i say hi, i want a friendly hi back! |
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| 12:52.59 | mernilio | clock is 14:52 here in central Europe, maybe the best of us is sleeping? |
| 12:53.36 | mernilio | Im just trying to be friendly.. :-) |
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| 13:01.58 | thragor | Hello ! When i'm working on my computer, the screen switch to black and i don't understand the reason why. Someone can help me please ? |
| 13:01.58 | thragor | Bonjour ! Lorsque je j'utilise l'ordinateur, l'écran passe au noir et je ne comprends pas pourquoi. Est-ce que quelqu'un peut m'aider ? |
| 13:02.23 | thragor | Debian 8 + XFCE 4.1 |
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| 13:05.54 | kang0 | Lowl3v3l I have space for 5 books |
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| 13:11.58 | nkuttler | !fr |
| 13:11.58 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debianfr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debianfr. |
| 13:12.02 | nkuttler | thragor: ^^ |
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| 13:17.28 | worried | does anybody know when the security problem gets fixed for jessie ? https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2017-9224 |
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| 13:18.06 | Lowl3v3l | worried: if you do not have a really good reason, you shouldn't be on jessie anymore but upgrade to stretch |
| 13:19.43 | worried | i am using jessi on a live server and i was too scared for a "live update" so far. but the new security problems makes me even more scared. |
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| 13:35.09 | pierrot | Hi. During the shutdown process, I see "FAILED: unmounting /var". This bug report seems to be my issue: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=851402. Is it harmless as it's said there? |
| 13:35.10 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/851402 in systemd (forwarded): «/var stays busy at shutdown due to journald»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-01-14; last modified: 2017-02-23. |
| 13:35.20 | hanshenrik | apt install --no-install-recommends lxde-core lxde-common |
| 13:35.24 | hanshenrik | installs lightdm! |
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| 13:35.28 | hanshenrik | that doesn't make much sense |
| 13:36.08 | hanshenrik | first off, a dm should be recommended, not required (like it is in deb8/deb7), second, if it does install a default dm, it should be lxdm, not lightdm, for lxde |
| 13:36.17 | hanshenrik | - this is exclusive to deb9 |
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| 13:38.28 | hanshenrik | (third, in my tests, lxdm use about 30 megabytes less ram than lightdm, so if lightdm's goals are to be light on resources, they probably have something to learn from the lxdm devs) |
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| 13:53.18 | thragor | nkuttler: ok thanks |
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| 14:03.40 | lowin | What was the name of the program that's used to create .deb archives? I swear I forget it every time i need it |
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| 14:13.20 | nvz | lowin: ar, debhelper, dpkg, make-kpkg? |
| 14:13.24 | stack | hello, on a ssd (pcie) , is it advisable to switch to a deadline or noop disk scheduler? on my personal desktop I see that backups often hangs the system, what about servers and vms? |
| 14:13.47 | nvz | lowin: dhmake, chkinstall, etc.. |
| 14:13.55 | stack | are there prebuilt tests if I don't have a specific application to test? |
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| 14:15.29 | lowin | nvz, I was looking for equives. thanks though |
| 14:15.35 | nvz | stack: I've learned the hard way there are a lot of fake drives out there but yet there are things out there that test random read/writes |
| 14:16.03 | nvz | lowin: ah, well eqivs just makes an empty package, but its one of a dozen apps that make debs, you should be more specific next time |
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| 14:17.40 | lowin | nvz, yeah sorry. |
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| 14:42.28 | pierrot | I created the file shutdown-log.txt to debug this "Failed: unmounting /var" issue. This is the result: http://sprunge.us/DcjW |
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| 14:47.02 | Guest84052 | .йгÑе |
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| 14:52.00 | OS-29731 | !leftturn |
| 14:52.40 | OS-29731 | !leftturn |
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| 14:53.20 | tx | You turn left, you see a door. Something compels you to walk through the door and you switch out of #debian. |
| 14:54.20 | OS-29731 | hi |
| 14:54.27 | OS-29731 | !leftturn |
| 14:54.31 | OS-29731 | !barry |
| 14:54.32 | dpkg | barry is probably a KDE frontend to the BSD ports system, http://frerich.ath.cx/barry |
| 14:55.30 | stack | nvz: I'll search something |
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| 15:13.44 | duelle | Hi, I have a Debian LXC container which is started on boot of the host system. What is the best way to define applications/scripts that should be started at boot time inside the LXC container? |
| 15:14.51 | jelly | stack, if you have hw raid or external storage on a VM, noop may be better, but deadline is sane to use anywhere |
| 15:15.04 | szymek | Hello there #debian, could you please give me a hint where exactly in current Debian Testing is system time saved to hardware RTC? |
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| 15:16.23 | jelly | stack, in theory noop will make your storage draw its own conclusions and try to optimize order of io itself |
| 15:16.24 | afidegnum | hello, can anyone please help? i have courier-imap installed but on Outlook, it claimed it has logged in but can't send the mail on Thunderbird, "can't find the settings" i have mail account at /var/vmail/info@mydomain.com |
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| 15:16.42 | jelly | dpkg, tell szymek about debian-next |
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| 15:18.14 | szymek | jelly: ow, sorry. I think it might be the same program or something in kernel in stable, too? Some time ago it seemed that hwclock did this, but now I can't find it anywhere. |
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| 15:21.08 | afidegnum | any insight? i have exim4 and courier-imap installed |
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| 15:24.18 | fourhundredtheca | I have entry in /etc/shadow for "usbmux" |
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| 15:24.28 | fourhundredtheca | but there is no such user in /etc/passwd |
| 15:24.38 | fourhundredtheca | any idea what that means ? |
| 15:24.55 | afidegnum | any insight ? |
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| 15:34.16 | duelle | Hi, I have an application that should be started when my machine is booted. What is the best/preferred way to do so? |
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| 15:34.30 | duelle | Debian Stretch, Headless |
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| 15:48.28 | afidegnum | how strong is kerberos authentication? in what instances it can be used in replacement of regular password based authetication? |
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| 15:55.06 | JyZyXEL | what was the name of the tool for cleaning up useless .deb packages that are installed? |
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| 15:58.08 | toruvinn | JyZyXEL, erm, apt-get autoclean? |
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| 15:58.47 | JyZyXEL | no that is something else, i mean purging useless packages that are in the system |
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| 16:00.41 | toruvinn | JyZyXEL, well, autoclean removes auto-instlled packages that you no longer use. other than that, i have no idea, sorry :-/ |
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| 16:01.37 | JyZyXEL | there is a program for it that had all kinds of switches to include different kinds of groups of packages |
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| 16:06.08 | JyZyXEL | it was deborphan |
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| 16:08.33 | tharkun | Aloha, Do I need a crossover cable to connect two laptops? |
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| 16:10.09 | szymek | tharkun: I assume you want to use Ethernet, if so, and if the laptops aren't old, the network cards should handle it automatically and work with regular cable. This is not Debian related though |
| 16:11.17 | tharkun | szymek: Thanks one is newer than the other lets see if it works |
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| 16:16.04 | tharkun | Is ifconfig finally deprecated on debian 9 or I simply forgot to install it? |
| 16:18.12 | jhutchins | tharkun: still there. /sbin/ |
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| 16:18.50 | tharkun | jhutchins: Thanks :) |
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| 16:23.15 | tharkun | Hmmm I used to select on an terminal with the mouse and pressing the middle button would just paste it on another terminal. That seems to fail on debian 9 any idea why or how to revert back to the old behaviour? |
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| 16:24.48 | tharkun | Terminal is urxvt |
| 16:26.44 | tharkun | It seems to be exarcerbated when one terminal is runned under a different user. |
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| 16:30.31 | nillerz | What happened to #debian-next? |
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| 16:32.55 | afidegnum | i have a dedi box where i want to configure different domains with their email accounts, using dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config how do i configure the mail sending option? internet site? mail sent by smarthost ? or mail sent by smarthost; no local mail ? |
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| 16:35.47 | Rajsun | nillerz: It's on oftc |
| 16:35.54 | tharkun | afidegnum: you might be looking for virtual hosts. I am no expert to exim4 but set it to internet and read into the documentation. An mta is a powerfull beast thant has a lot of levers and knobs to configure. |
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| 16:36.15 | nillerz | @Rajsun thanks |
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| 16:38.59 | madsara | Does anyone have any thoughts on how to fix constant esata timeouts? |
| 16:39.17 | madsara | I filed a bug but have no luck in fixing this recent problem |
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| 16:39.40 | tharkun | An aditional question I downloaded 9.0 using jigdo If I need to install 9.1 will jigdo upgrade my current iso file? |
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| 16:49.47 | BluesKaj | tharkun, https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ |
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| 16:50.13 | dury | hi there channel :-) |
| 16:50.32 | eksdee_ | Hola |
| 16:50.49 | tharkun | hola |
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| 16:50.59 | bean9916_ | hola |
| 16:51.16 | dury | can someone help to configure xscreensaver properly, please |
| 16:51.39 | dury | go english please |
| 16:52.01 | dury | bean9916, can you? |
| 16:52.34 | dury | tharkun, eksdee, can you assist? |
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| 16:53.20 | dury | I'm doing my best... bloody hell |
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| 16:53.24 | bean9916_ | What do you need, specifically? |
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| 16:53.37 | kang0 | (kang0) (kang0) Is there anything equivalent to 96boards for laptop or computer? |
| 16:53.48 | user | anyone uses lighttpd on deb9? |
| 16:54.23 | dury | bean9916, just configure xscreensaver autostart |
| 16:54.48 | user | i am stuck with html form action. scripts under cgi-bin not executing. tried .sh .py. pl |
| 16:56.07 | bean9916_ | You'll probably want to put xscreensaver -no-splash in the startup applications list |
| 16:56.09 | BluesKaj | dury, https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/man1.html |
| 16:56.34 | dury | bean9916, do u need any infp how it's here xscreensaver I added to startup applicastion in tweak app |
| 16:56.47 | bean9916_ | You should be able to find that in your main menu |
| 16:57.46 | tharkun | dury: #debian-es if you feel line staying in spanish :) |
| 16:58.36 | dury | tharkun, I'm comfortable here, thanks |
| 16:59.14 | dury | tharkun, I prefer in english though |
| 16:59.34 | dury | tharkun, I think is good enough too |
| 17:00.03 | tharkun | :) |
| 17:01.30 | and_dev | hi. i need opinion on something. is it beneficial to encrypt a file by a combination of key and gps coordinates? |
| 17:01.40 | dury | tharkun, don't u think so, do you? |
| 17:01.53 | hanshenrik_ | haha never heard of such a concept. generally, no. |
| 17:02.00 | hanshenrik_ | and_dev, ^ |
| 17:02.24 | and_dev | why not? |
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| 17:02.59 | bean9916_ | You could use the coordinates as the key, not sure why you'd want to though |
| 17:03.08 | hanshenrik_ | and_dev, if you're working for Cicada 3301's recruiting department, there might be something to it |
| 17:03.13 | stack | and_dev: why though? |
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| 17:03.48 | and_dev | so a file is openable only in a specific location |
| 17:04.05 | kang0 | Any reply to my query? |
| 17:04.06 | stack | to what extend you pinpoint that location? |
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| 17:04.26 | stack | anyway that would be easily fakeable |
| 17:04.41 | user | anyone here tried lighttpd? |
| 17:04.47 | stack | you fall back in the region of knowing a password |
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| 17:05.56 | and_dev | stack: it would be hard to fake if i use a very time consuming hashing algorythm |
| 17:07.03 | stack | and_dev: knowing a location is equivalent of knowing a password |
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| 17:07.47 | bean9916_ | Yeah, could easily spoof that by feeding the program whatever coordinates you want |
| 17:07.57 | stack | with the fact that you must deal with rounging that location and trust your detection method |
| 17:08.52 | dury | bbl |
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| 17:10.29 | friiq | hey i'm on debian stretch and can't find usbmount |
| 17:10.49 | friiq | did the package name change |
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| 17:18.17 | friiq | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:22.44 | tharkun | Once more me complaining about 9.0 firefox version on 9.0 seems to be a totall memory hog. it can consume 2G of ram in a matter of minutes. How can I report such a bug? |
| 17:22.48 | friiq | Night-Shade: how did you get an arpa address |
| 17:23.08 | tharkun | And there is this Web Content process that is tied to it. |
| 17:23.43 | friiq | tharkun: that's really unfortunate. i don't even have 2GB ram. you would bug report to debian on that one. |
| 17:24.06 | friiq | i've started using chromium because of my low resources. |
| 17:24.25 | friiq | there is this too: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ |
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| 17:24.42 | friiq | but i don't know if the issues could be replicated on other distros/OS's/hardware. |
| 17:25.01 | friiq | i know that i was able to use firefox on this machine with high swap usage |
| 17:25.06 | Night-Shade | friiq it's just the default reverse DNS from my ISP |
| 17:25.17 | friiq | Night-Shade: that's cool stuff :P |
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| 17:27.29 | tharkun | friiq: I am unsure if it is an upstream bug or a debian specific bug. I need someone to confirm the isue |
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| 17:34.20 | friiq | tharkun: i can verify that i had the same issue on arch |
| 17:34.26 | friiq | i was blaming my hardware |
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| 17:36.58 | friiq | btw, debian 9.0 on dwm is sick |
| 17:36.58 | friiq | :D |
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| 17:38.09 | crash_ | friiq: dwm nice :) |
| 17:38.41 | friiq | i love it so much |
| 17:38.42 | friiq | i always do ><> |
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| 17:39.06 | friiq | tharkun: testing iceweasel now |
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| 17:41.34 | edju | Running Jessie and network-manager-gnome. Lost my wireless. I click on my SSID and nothing happens. "iwconfig wlan0" shows "Access Point: Not-Associated" I can, however, connect to some neighbor's line, which is not pwd-protected. Any tips, pointers appreciated. |
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| 17:43.03 | friiq | edju: was it working before? did you make any changes |
| 17:43.16 | tharkun | edju: nmcli dev wifi connect $NAME password $PASSWORD ifname $NIC name $name runned as root will eventually make a connection that you can nmcli con up $NAME |
| 17:43.21 | friiq | do you have wpasupplicant installed |
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| 17:43.40 | crash_ | friiq: i have never tried dwm, but i'm running i3wm on 9.0 :) |
| 17:43.54 | friiq | you would also like dwm i'd think |
| 17:44.40 | crash_ | friiq: i should maybe try dwm out, but i'm so aquainted with the easy i3 config file. |
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| 17:45.43 | friiq | crash_: yes you do have to compile dwm after you change the confi |
| 17:46.05 | LtL | edju: do you run gnome? |
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| 17:46.24 | edju | friiq, Yes, it was working before and yes I have wpasupplcant installed. I've run a bunch of commands but still no wireless. |
| 17:46.41 | edju | LtL, No, kde. |
| 17:46.43 | crash_ | friiq: yeah well it's C and not awesomewm(lua) and that is good :) |
| 17:47.09 | friiq | edju: what might work is if you bring wlan0 down with ip link set "wlan0" down |
| 17:47.19 | friiq | all depending on what the nic name is |
| 17:47.36 | friiq | crash_: c is so simple and light :P |
| 17:47.57 | LtL | edju: can't help you. it should have a settings icon near the SSID to set security, or find 'network' somwhere in a menu |
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| 17:49.32 | crash_ | friiq: :) |
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| 17:50.39 | friiq | iceweasel is super light, even compared to chromium |
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| 17:51.33 | friiq | there is the vi plugin too |
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| 17:52.13 | edju | Oh, well - back to google, which is getting me nowhere so far. |
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| 17:52.30 | friiq | edju: why |
| 17:52.55 | tharkun | friiq: will look into it asap |
| 17:53.14 | crash_ | edju: have you tried nmtui? ncurses-menu for network-manager |
| 17:54.04 | edju | crash_, No, never heard of it. I'll try. |
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| 17:56.51 | edju | crash_, apt-cache policy nmtui returns "Unable to locate package nmtui" |
| 17:57.16 | crash_ | edju: you should already have nmtui installed |
| 17:57.18 | edju | acp nmgui |
| 17:57.30 | metax | how many gay we got over there? |
| 17:57.41 | LtL | edju: what are you looking at when you see your net and your neighbors net? |
| 17:58.35 | JyZyXEL | when i try to purge libav-tools i get: dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove libav-tools which isn't installed |
| 17:58.43 | edju | crash_, Ah, yes. I have it. I'll have a go at it. |
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| 18:01.02 | missmbob | metax: please dont speak like that here |
| 18:01.09 | LtL | edju: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#KDE_Plasma |
| 18:01.14 | boubou | heyyy guys |
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| 18:01.19 | __raven__ | hi |
| 18:01.19 | tharkun | FTR 9.0 freezes every so often who authorized the release? on 7 previous releases never did a Debian version froze so dramatically on the first day. |
| 18:01.20 | boubou | anyone can give me a tip ? |
| 18:01.29 | boubou | how can I paste that into a file ? # If you have the `glibc-doc-reference' and `info' packages installed, try: |
| 18:01.46 | boubou | it works with sed |
| 18:01.51 | __raven__ | how to create a full disk mirror of an (u)efi system? i actually only get "broken" partition table and wrong sizes |
| 18:01.54 | boubou | any others ideas ? |
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| 18:02.18 | edju | LtL, The network icon in the system tray which lists available SSIDs. |
| 18:02.34 | metax | missmbob, oh, i was just asking to find friends |
| 18:02.50 | nix64bit | what about going outside on a full moon and drink blood? |
| 18:03.17 | LtL | edju: there should be some type of icon next to the SSID that allows you to set security and password |
| 18:03.35 | missmbob | metax: finding friends is more appropriate in #debian-offtopic |
| 18:03.42 | LtL | edju: try a right cllick on the ssid |
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| 18:05.11 | edju | LtL, I just set the pwd using nmuti |
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| 18:05.39 | LtL | edju: what about the encryption potocol |
| 18:05.42 | edju | LtL, I'll try the link you provided. Thanks. |
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| 18:07.07 | szymek | __raven__: I used clonezilla for creating my disk images, worked on UEFI machines too. |
| 18:07.53 | LtL | tharkun: 9.0 is very stable and yes firefox chews up a ton of RAM, at the gnome desktop with FF running and a few shells, sshd i use about 1.2 GB of RAM, with jessie it was only about 800MB |
| 18:08.26 | LtL | I have 16GB so i cant even come close to using half of it, and its rock solid, so was jessie |
| 18:08.56 | __raven__ | szymek: not sure if its really a uefi problem but i just copied sda to sdb using dd (on live system) and it seems to be a mess |
| 18:09.42 | friiq | __raven__: some directories do not copy well and lose permissions |
| 18:10.14 | friiq | clonezilla remedies this |
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| 18:11.54 | __raven__ | friiq: no its a bitwise copy. i simply would like to do a snapshot of the whole drive to change it if the main goes bad |
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| 18:13.31 | szymek | __raven__: maybe it has something to do with having two partitions with identical UUID on the same system, both dd and clonezilla images preserve the uuid |
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| 18:15.10 | __raven__ | szymek: i am watching sdb (dd destination) on another linux right now using a usb-sata-device and this shows me a completely broken partition table. (adapter is capable of using big disks...) |
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| 18:24.19 | JyZyXEL | how do you list all dpkg triggers that are installed in the system? |
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| 18:26.30 | OS-29731 | 10.11.1.39 |
| 18:26.32 | OS-29731 | ? |
| 18:26.49 | OS-29731 | any hint ? |
| 18:26.52 | OS-29731 | plese |
| 18:26.55 | OS-29731 | please |
| 18:27.07 | OS-29731 | for login the page |
| 18:27.35 | bionix | what ? |
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| 18:27.59 | tharkun | LtL: I haven't seen such an unstable debian version since Etch. Believe me it is not rock solid. |
| 18:28.07 | tharkun | And that was a painful release. |
| 18:28.13 | Robby | OS-27035: todays hint is: 192.168.97.66 |
| 18:28.43 | LtL | tharkun: possibly your video drivers, that's the usual culprit |
| 18:28.45 | Robby | one hint per 24 hours, come back tomorrow for another hint |
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| 18:29.12 | Robby | oh, I meant to type that to OS-29731 |
| 18:29.14 | OS-29731 | i cannot crack the username and password for the 10.11.1.39/otrs/index.pl |
| 18:29.21 | Robby | why is there multiple OS's in here |
| 18:29.31 | Robby | my trolling failed :( |
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| 18:30.07 | Robby | cracking things? I don't think thats supported here :) |
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| 18:39.33 | tharkun | LtL: noveau nvidia has been working fine for the last 4 releases IIRC |
| 18:40.38 | tharkun | and I ditched gnome in favour of notion ( long time user) and anything that is not esential just gets sacked. |
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| 18:41.39 | familiargalaxy | tharkun: is notion similar to i3 ? |
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| 18:45.08 | flux242 | isn't notion dead? |
| 18:45.42 | TheRoo | it is |
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| 18:47.16 | flux242 | though i3 will be dead too soon if they fail to switch to wayland |
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| 18:48.16 | crash_ | i think sway is the new "i3" with focus on wayland? |
| 18:49.35 | TheRoo | yes |
| 18:50.43 | TheRoo | flux242: i don't really think the transition to wayland would be that quick for people running WMs, there are a lot of little X utilities to play around with Window properties wayland doesn't have, and Xorg can run as non-root under logind (sorta) so I don't see i3 dying that early. |
| 18:50.51 | crash_ | i will run i3 until wayland and sway is more mature |
| 18:52.10 | TheRoo | i3 has a pretty large userbase though |
| 18:52.14 | TheRoo | it's huge |
| 18:52.39 | crash_ | yeah there are many users on i3 :) |
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| 18:53.22 | crash_ | and other wm's |
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| 18:54.33 | TheRoo | all because of unixporn. |
| 18:54.56 | flux242 | as all main distros will start to switch to wayland there won't be much time left for xorgs I suppose |
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| 18:56.00 | flux242 | is fedora latest shipped with wayland by default? |
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| 18:56.53 | crash_ | i think so |
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| 18:57.49 | crash_ | TheRoo: unixporn is fun, everyone is running arch and some wm's not so much debian that is sad :( |
| 18:57.52 | TheRoo | flux242: yes. |
| 18:58.23 | TheRoo | DEs still work best for me. |
| 18:59.11 | flux242 | with unixport you mean people tweaking their conky scripts decades long? |
| 18:59.32 | flux242 | unixporn ^ |
| 19:00.21 | crash_ | i have never used conky never had a use for it |
| 19:01.23 | flux242 | TheRoo: what DE are you using? |
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| 19:01.57 | TheRoo | KDE Plasma |
| 19:02.34 | flux242 | that's too bloated for me |
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| 19:03.07 | TheRoo | yeah, I run Gentoo, so i disable all the stuff I dont need during build time. |
| 19:03.21 | TheRoo | I disabled baloo completely, for example. |
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| 19:06.03 | BluesKaj | flux242, kde, bloated for you, flexible for me |
| 19:06.08 | TheRoo | There is nothing that is as feature rich as Plasma though, XFCE just comes close. |
| 19:06.38 | tharkun | familiargalaxy: yes but the tiles are static giving you more control over it. |
| 19:07.09 | crash_ | if i would run a DE mate would be my choice |
| 19:07.15 | TheRoo | and fwiw, there's a kwin script to turn into a tiling WM. |
| 19:07.23 | TheRoo | You can even replace kwin altogether. |
| 19:07.34 | TheRoo | turn it* |
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| 19:09.05 | tharkun | TheRoo: Expain KDE Plasma can become a tile DE ? |
| 19:09.35 | PipeItToDevNull | How do I go about finding an ISO for a specific non-free firmware I need? |
| 19:09.44 | TheRoo | tharkun: huh? |
| 19:09.48 | flux242 | as I read xfce news my heart starts bleeding. They are talking about reimplmenting their compositor using GL which whey should do 10 years ago. Now when everyone starts switching to wayland what's the point to improve damn compositor? |
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| 19:10.16 | flux242 | should have done ^ |
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| 19:10.56 | TheRoo | their DE, their biz. :P |
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| 19:13.02 | PipeItToDevNull | My specific situation is installing on an system without ethernet. It uses a Killer NIC requiring ath10k/qca1674. My install stops, asking for that firmware. How do I get the firmware and put it onto a device for use by the installer? |
| 19:13.12 | crash_ | PipeItToDevNull: I don't think there is such iso, but the is a unofficial non-free is with alot of firmwares on it. |
| 19:13.26 | PipeItToDevNull | I am using that ISO, it is not present |
| 19:13.46 | BluesKaj | wayland is a long way off for nvidia gpu users |
| 19:14.04 | crash_ | PipeItToDevNull: maybe your nic is present in a newer kernel? i have never encountered a killer nic |
| 19:14.40 | PipeItToDevNull | crash_, I am installing Debian-9 |
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| 19:16.51 | BluesKaj | best to find a way to connect via ethernet until the OS completely installed then look for the linux driver at that point , PipeItToDevNull |
| 19:17.07 | BluesKaj | wifi driver |
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| 19:20.08 | jmcnaught | PipeItToDevNull: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en |
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| 19:20.58 | PipeItToDevNull | jmcnaught, awesome, anyclue where I would find the debian dump of firmware |
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| 19:21.29 | crash_ | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/stretch/current/ |
| 19:21.59 | PipeItToDevNull | Woo, I just kept looping back to the ISOs |
| 19:22.04 | jmcnaught | PipeItToDevNull: it actually says in the manual, they didn't leave that information out |
| 19:22.26 | PipeItToDevNull | Oh, it does. My apologies |
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| 19:23.35 | jmcnaught | PipeItToDevNull: that unofficial firmware ISO includes most non-free firmwares, but some still need to be installed after the first reboot. If that's the case, you can complete the install without a network mirror, then install the firmwares from a USB stick after. |
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| 19:32.24 | racar | WiFi speed issue with debian stretch + broadcom BCM4360 802.11ac 14e4:43a0 + wl loaded driver. When i reload the kernel module (modprobe), the wifi speed is at the max. If i want 2 min it drop to really slow. Any ideas ? |
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| 19:50.05 | racar1 | At the moment, the only solution is to modprobe -r and back again the wifi module. The speed is good after (back) |
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| 19:51.33 | jmcnaught | racar1: watch for log entries when it happens |
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| 19:53.08 | racar1 | jmcnaught, The only things i see in user.log is dhcp6 "request timed out" , "state change unknown -> timeout", "canceled dhcp transaction", "state change timeout -> done" ... after that the wifi is slow. Will try again and see if it comes back |
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| 19:54.32 | racar1 | yes got it again |
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| 19:54.39 | guardian | hello |
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| 19:55.36 | guardian | I tried to ask on oftc but it's quiet atm. When doing dpkg -l |grep exim. I can see exim4-daemon-heavy is marked as installed but exim4-daemon-light is marked as "rc". I suspect (and don't want to break things) than purging exim4-daemon-light will remove files needed by exim4-daemon-heavy. So what's my reasonable next step? |
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| 19:59.44 | nkuttler | guardian: why do you want to purge it? |
| 20:00.12 | nkuttler | guardian: and afaik the exim config is stored in a file that's not in a package and rebuilt from that? just use your backups if not.. |
| 20:00.56 | guardian | I don't know |
| 20:01.06 | guardian | had the impression it's cleaner |
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| 20:06.22 | PipeItToDevNull | I was able to get it functioning and installed. Thank you for the assistance. |
| 20:06.31 | guardian | also because it seems dpkg is not in clean state :( For example it gives "rc" status to dovecot-common but then aptitude purge dovecot-common says it's not installed |
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| 20:15.15 | nkuttler | guardian: you can't purge packages you don't have installed |
| 20:15.52 | apollo13 | if they have a residual config? |
| 20:15.56 | jmcnaught | you should be able to purge packages that have been removed but are 'rc' |
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| 20:16.12 | nkuttler | jmcnaught: but how would dpkg know what to remove? |
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| 20:16.56 | jmcnaught | nkuttler: the conffiles which dpkg tracks separately, and will still be present after a remove |
| 20:17.31 | jmcnaught | it's why remove and purge are available as two distinct steps, so you can remove the software but keep its configuration |
| 20:17.32 | nkuttler | jmcnaught: so if i dist-upgrade for a decade, how many useless files would i have on my disk? |
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| 20:18.18 | jmcnaught | nkuttler: i don't know, it depends on how many you install in the first place and how much maintenance you do |
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| 20:21.54 | apollo13 | nkuttler: open synaptic and check (I sadly do not know how to get that information on the console ;)) |
| 20:22.03 | apollo13 | [or rather I am too lazy to figure that out :)] |
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| 20:26.50 | jonah | hi can anyone help me out. I've been told I need to downgrade openssl to 1.0.1f - currently I'm on 1.0.1t... I just wondered if anyone knew how to downgrade it? |
| 20:27.06 | jonah | apparently my cert doesn't work with the newer version |
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| 20:27.26 | jmcnaught | that doesn't sound right, what is the error message you get? |
| 20:27.51 | jonah | jmcnaught: i thought it sounded a bit dodge too. but that is what purevpn support said |
| 20:28.08 | jmcnaught | jonah: probably BS then |
| 20:28.35 | jmcnaught | that error though? |
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| 20:29.04 | jonah | jmcnaught: yeah probably BS haha. here is the error: Sat Jul 8 20:17:59 2017 RESOLVE: Cannot resolve host address: dk1-ovpn-tcp.pointtoserver.com: No address associated with hostname |
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| 20:31.42 | jmcnaught | jonah: that has nothing to do with the version of openssl |
| 20:32.10 | jmcnaught | that is a DNS resolution failure |
| 20:32.13 | apollo13 | jonah: did you specify that as remote in the openvpn config? |
| 20:32.14 | jonah | jmcnaught: you were right about there suppor then, full of S |
| 20:32.28 | apollo13 | cause as jmcnaught says, it doesn't return a response |
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| 20:33.50 | apollo13 | jonah: try vleu-dk1-ovpn-tcp.pointtoserver.com instead |
| 20:34.13 | jonah | apollo13: well in my .ovpn file I have vleu-dk1-ovpn-tcp.pointtoserver.com |
| 20:34.22 | apollo13 | okay, that is weird then |
| 20:34.32 | jonah | apollo13: so it is like it is missing the front bit off... |
| 20:34.44 | apollo13 | I wonder if something in the certs causes this |
| 20:34.50 | apollo13 | can you increase the openvpn loglevels? |
| 20:34.57 | apollo13 | and show what it says up to there? |
| 20:35.13 | jonah | apollo13: everything has worked fine until a few weeks ago, then suddenly this started happening |
| 20:35.40 | jonah | apollo13: thanks - how would i increase the log levels a little? |
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| 20:36.08 | apollo13 | jonah: verb 4 in the config file |
| 20:36.17 | apollo13 | check that no sensitive information is leaked though before posting |
| 20:37.27 | jonah | apollo13: i don't seem to have a .conf file in /etc/openvpn... |
| 20:37.47 | jmcnaught | jonah: how do you start openvpn? |
| 20:38.15 | jonah | jmcnaught: haha good question, it was a script I used a while back, can't remember where I added it now... |
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| 20:43.54 | will__ | hello all |
| 20:44.29 | will__ | just hoped on GCP and chose debian gnu/linux or something like that. I'm coming from mint, and was met with just a CLI |
| 20:44.40 | will__ | is there a gui available that i can install? |
| 20:45.10 | apollo13 | GCP? |
| 20:45.17 | guest1256 | Google Cloud? |
| 20:45.18 | will__ | google cloud platform |
| 20:45.25 | apollo13 | then you do not want a gui |
| 20:45.31 | will__ | :( |
| 20:45.33 | guest1256 | yes, but you would also need a vnc |
| 20:45.37 | will__ | i cant live without one lol |
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| 20:45.58 | apollo13 | then you got a bit to learn :) |
| 20:46.02 | will__ | i use mint now, but it would be nightmare for me to use without the desktop enviroment |
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| 20:46.15 | guest1256 | just use mint for irc |
| 20:46.24 | apollo13 | well servers are not ment to be operated via a gui (unless they are terminal servers or something) |
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| 20:46.40 | guest1256 | you could do it with GPC but it will be really slow |
| 20:46.55 | guest1256 | plus you would have to set up a vnc client and server |
| 20:46.57 | jmcnaught | will__: what are you using the GCP instance for? |
| 20:47.08 | guest1256 | prob as a sort of bouncer |
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| 20:47.50 | will__ | jmcnaught: there's a little app im building as a summer project and i wanted to take advantage and learn a couple of other things in the process. Like how to run backend operations on a server, apis, etc |
| 20:48.13 | apollo13 | will__: then it would be a good learning experience to drop the gui := |
| 20:48.16 | guest1256 | try to learn irc with a cli client : ) |
| 20:48.16 | sypher | will__: We're not being mean when we tell you that you -need- to learn how to use the shell instead of relying on a GUI. |
| 20:48.22 | guest1256 | irssi, weechat |
| 20:48.28 | will__ | ok i understand |
| 20:48.35 | jmcnaught | will__: don't install a GUI on the server, it's probably pointless. you'll probably end up having to run commands in a terminal window anyways |
| 20:48.36 | will__ | no gui (starts crying inside) |
| 20:48.40 | apollo13 | guest1256: you seem to be missing the point completely |
| 20:48.50 | sypher | will__: Once you learn how to use the shell, a GUI just gets in the way. |
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| 20:49.28 | will__ | alright so i installed apach2 like i did before using mint. do i just ls and cd everywhere to explore directories now? |
| 20:50.52 | jmcnaught | !fundamentals |
| 20:50.53 | dpkg | You'll get more out of Debian and *nix if you learn some of the fundamentals. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" HOWTO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/ Then, read the Debian Reference at https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ |
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| 20:52.50 | will_ | did i get kicked? |
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| 20:53.33 | will__ | ugh sorry didnt know i had two irc windows open. i opened an old one |
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| 20:57.39 | will__ | alright so if I need to edit html files, etc and when i go through the website folders, how do I know which image is what when i have a lot of them? |
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| 20:58.41 | will__ | and no syntax highlighting with code in console either is there |
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| 21:13.19 | KNERD | Years ago, when the Mandrake distro was around, they had a nifty desktop application which istalled as part of the base isntall. It was a graphical IP address geo Locatitor. It had a world glob with you could zoom in and out on. Anything simila rot that in the Debian repos? |
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| 21:28.19 | ZSky | Can I put this in a crontab: |
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| 21:28.52 | ZSky | 0 0 0 0 * ntpdate -s time.nist.gov |
| 21:29.15 | apollo13 | why would you wanna do that? |
| 21:29.34 | ZSky | because it seems that my server's time is going off 1 minute every few weeks |
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| 21:29.42 | apollo13 | so configure ntp? |
| 21:29.51 | ZSky | not very precise RTC |
| 21:30.12 | apollo13 | yes, that is why you'd have a ntp client running to adjust it all the time |
| 21:30.13 | ZSky | apollo13 what do you suggest? |
| 21:30.24 | apollo13 | install and configure an ntp client |
| 21:30.41 | ZSky | it might be already installed |
| 21:30.43 | ZSky | how to check? |
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| 21:32.16 | ZSky | Would this be wrong to update the date every 2 day? 0 0 */2 * * ntpdate -s time.nist.gov |
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| 21:33.02 | jim | just a reminder, factoid codenames should be altered to include buster |
| 21:33.16 | ZSky | jim: what does this mean? |
| 21:33.42 | jim | ZSky, do you know what buster is? |
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| 21:34.23 | ZSky | to bust something |
| 21:34.26 | ZSky | ghost buster? |
| 21:34.34 | jim | ZSky, also, /msg dpkg codenames |
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| 21:36.04 | jim | ZSky, also, it's a toy story character... also it's the name of debian testing |
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| 21:37.49 | skypce | hi guys |
| 21:38.01 | skypce | do you know some alternative to systemback for debian 9? |
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| 21:40.47 | Tenkawa | greetings all |
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| 21:42.25 | prompt32 | skypce, 'systemback' << is ? |
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| 21:44.18 | skypce | prompt32, systemback do not work in debian 9, create all system correctly |
| 21:44.34 | skypce | but when you want install it , it says "could not mount the image" |
| 21:44.47 | skypce | i was tested previous versions, and latest version |
| 21:44.56 | skypce | doing a apt-get purge previously |
| 21:45.01 | skypce | for remove all package |
| 21:45.13 | skypce | nothing works with latest debian |
| 21:46.48 | prompt32 | skypce, sorry i dont know the 'systemback', its an app, ? |
| 21:47.15 | skypce | https://answers.launchpad.net/systemback/+question/406651 |
| 21:47.35 | skypce | it is a app for backup or create live iso install of a machine |
| 21:49.23 | prompt32 | ^ ok , i see, but not in the repository. So search the logs, and reverse engineering ;) ...., maybe |
| 21:49.36 | prompt32 | i mean ;( |
| 21:49.55 | skypce | ok thankyou prompt32 |
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| 21:51.21 | prompt32 | have many changes debian 9, its very fast, but me i dont use it, cause debian 9 stop to support multiseat X setups, at least, in the Xorg conf way |
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| 22:03.07 | will__ | hey guys just tried apt get php it wasnt found |
| 22:03.20 | will__ | do i need to get it from another source? |
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| 22:04.07 | will__ | sorry i meant apt install |
| 22:06.19 | prompt32 | ^ cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:06.21 | jmcnaught | will__: try "apt search php" |
| 22:06.57 | prompt32 | ^apt install php5 |
| 22:07.07 | jmcnaught | the package isn't called php, there are several package. you can pipe that command to less to read it in a pager "apt search php | less" and then 'q' to quit |
| 22:07.19 | jmcnaught | prompt32: on stretch it's php 7 |
| 22:07.39 | prompt32 | ^ ok, yes |
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| 22:08.06 | prompt32 | will__, what debian version ? |
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| 22:08.23 | will__ | 8 |
| 22:08.28 | will__ | i think thats jessie? |
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| 22:09.16 | will__ | got a looooong list of stuff with "php" |
| 22:09.21 | prompt32 | ^ so , apt install php5 |
| 22:09.23 | will__ | nto sure what to get from here haha |
| 22:09.25 | jmcnaught | will__: if you're starting a new project it makes more sense to use debian 9 "stretch" that just got released last month, longer time before you need to upgrade again |
| 22:09.29 | will__ | alrighty |
| 22:09.41 | jmcnaught | will__: "apt show packagename" to read the longer descriptions |
| 22:10.17 | will__ | alright jmcnaught is there acommand for system upgrade? |
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| 22:13.02 | jmcnaught | will__: there are upgrade instructions in the release notes: https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ |
| 22:13.55 | dury | hi there channel :-) |
| 22:14.01 | jmcnaught | will__: i also still recommend absorbing some more basics from the "/msg dpkg fundamentals" factoid earlier |
| 22:14.37 | dury | still not success about xscreensaver |
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| 22:15.04 | dury | did read https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/man1.html not success though |
| 22:16.03 | dury | xscreensaver not working properly in stretch or what? |
| 22:16.18 | will__ | jmcnaught: just found this: |
| 22:16.19 | will__ | MariaDB replaces MySQL database in Debian 9 Stretch. This introduces a new database binary data file format which is not backwards compatible with your current ( Debian 8 Jessie ) database format. During the upgrade your databases will be upgraded automatically. However, when you run into some issues during or after the upgrade, you will not be able revert back! From this reason it is important to backup all your current |
| 22:16.20 | will__ | databases before you proceed with a Debian 9 Stretch upgrade! |
| 22:16.44 | will__ | stretch was the default choice in google cloud platform |
| 22:17.11 | will__ | idk if my choice of distro affects any of their backend workings |
| 22:17.58 | dury | did anyone have success with xscreensaver on stretch? |
| 22:19.19 | missmbob | no. light-locker |
| 22:20.13 | prompt32 | will__, try to make a clean install to debian 9, then you, see, i dont think debian drop mySQL, so you can install it alone ! |
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| 22:21.29 | dury | missmbob, did you get success? |
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| 22:21.57 | missmbob | with light-locker, sure. just worked |
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| 22:22.40 | dury | missmbob, how is it that, would you drive me please? |
| 22:23.17 | missmbob | apt install light-locker |
| 22:23.30 | dury | missmbob, then? |
| 22:23.50 | missmbob | nothing |
| 22:24.03 | missmbob | you can remove xscreensaver |
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| 22:25.23 | dury | missmbob, the point is to make xscreensaver to work it out, you know what I mean? |
| 22:28.20 | dury | missmbob, yes? |
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| 22:30.43 | dury | missmbob, are you there? |
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| 22:38.41 | dury | missmbob, light-locker is installed... so what's next |
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| 22:39.45 | dury | just a little help, please, missmbob |
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| 23:11.55 | jmcnaught | will__: if stretch is the default, then maybe it's easier to create a new VM or reinstall it than to upgrade? |
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| 23:13.51 | prompt32 | I have a question, cause the new version of Xorg in debian9, have drop support for multiseat machines. Can i build a multiseat X configuration using 'udev rules'/loginctl, instead of using device isolation inside Xorg conf files ? |
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| 23:16.24 | jesso | Is there a work around to use trim without slowing down drive performance ? |
| 23:19.15 | jmcnaught | jesso: instead of configuring trim in fstab, you can have it run in a weekly cron job. The util-linux package also has an example fstrim.timer in its docs/example directory. Also look at https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization |
| 23:19.32 | jesso | do you use cron? |
| 23:19.41 | jesso | weakly |
| 23:20.00 | jmcnaught | my cron is strong |
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| 23:22.31 | jmcnaught | jesso: i use this script in /etc/cron.weekly/fstrim: http://paste.debian.net/975506/ on my laptop that's still using jessie. If I set it up again I would probably use the systemd timer unit provided by util-linux examples. On the wiki page above, take note of stuff you may need to configure if you use LVM or LUKS/dm-crypt |
| 23:23.12 | jesso | can you just it to root ? |
| 23:23.15 | jesso | set |
| 23:23.41 | jmcnaught | jesso: i don't know what you mean by that |
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| 23:24.10 | jesso | in your bash script you have the trim set to your home folder |
| 23:25.08 | jmcnaught | jesso: because /home is a separate filesystem on that computer, so is /boot |
| 23:25.16 | jesso | okay |
| 23:25.44 | jmcnaught | jesso: fstrim(8) also has '--all' |
| 23:26.14 | jesso | when using the --all can you tell it to ignore hard drives |
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| 23:26.39 | jmcnaught | jesso: you could also just "cp /usr/share/doc/util-linux/examples/fstrim.* /etc/systemd/system ; systemctl enable fstrim.timer" |
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| 23:27.41 | jesso | I guess I'll just use systemd service instead of cron |
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| 23:29.51 | jmcnaught | it's fine either way |
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| 23:37.47 | Bitchin_Camaro | I just started getting this warning doing an 'apt update' on a fresh laptop Stretch install. Anyone else familiar with this ? http://paste.debian.net/975510/ |
| 23:38.53 | Bitchin_Camaro | google doesn't have much on this, nor on the BTS |
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| 23:39.22 | jmcnaught | Bitchin_Camaro: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#apt-unpriv-acquire |
| 23:39.48 | Bitchin_Camaro | Thanks jmcnaught |
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| 23:40.15 | jmcnaught | how did the permissions in /etc/apt get changed in the first place? were you locking stuff down? |
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| 23:40.34 | Bitchin_Camaro | jmcnaught: neative, i did nothing |
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| 23:40.42 | Bitchin_Camaro | negative |
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| 23:41.24 | jmcnaught | weird |
| 23:42.19 | Bitchin_Camaro | jmcnaught: it's been working fine for weeks until today |
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| 23:42.54 | jesso | you can get the hashes in /etc/shadow |
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| 23:44.31 | Bitchin_Camaro | jesso: yes, _apt is the last entry in /etc/shadow |
| 23:45.02 | Bitchin_Camaro | my jessie->stretch upgrade doesn't do this |
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| 23:45.29 | jesso | Do you use a complex password |
| 23:46.07 | Bitchin_Camaro | jesso: no |
| 23:46.19 | jesso | you can get kali and crack the root password |
| 23:46.34 | Bitchin_Camaro | this is from /etc/passwd _apt:x:120:65534::/nonexistent:/bin/false |
| 23:46.59 | jmcnaught | jesso: what are you talking about? |
| 23:47.00 | Bitchin_Camaro | its not a simple password |
| 23:47.02 | sypher | jesso: That's going to take a long time even for simple passwords due to how they're encrypted. |
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| 23:47.33 | jesso | gpus can crack pretty fast if it's under 12 characters |
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| 23:48.29 | sypher | jesso: That's quite the inaccurate statement. |
| 23:48.33 | PipeItToDevNull | Passwords *should* be stored hashed, so no matter how long or short a password is, it is stored as a very long string. |
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| 23:50.49 | sypher | PipeItToDevNull: And? |
| 23:52.31 | binary1985 | i crack passwords for a living, it all depends on the end users selection, strong encrpytion algos stand up when used with strong password creation standards, but so many people do Word### which is very likely to be cracked with GPU's usings a english dictionary and standard rule set |
| 23:52.38 | sypher | jesso: You're drastically overestimating the level of performance that even a GPU can generate when dealing with crypt() hashes. |
| 23:52.45 | OS-11916 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:52.59 | OS-11916 | tttttttttttttttttttttt |
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| 23:54.57 | binary1985 | sed '/s/encryption/hashed/' |
| 23:54.57 | dondelelcaro | most modern attacks on machines don't come through cracking, anyway; they happen through vulnerabilities, either software, hardware, or wetware. |
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| 23:55.15 | dondelelcaro | s/cracking/password &/ |
| 23:55.49 | binary1985 | in the industry i work in, almost every time we breach a network its due to mitm a hash and crack, classic responder.py. |
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| 23:56.40 | Bitchin_Camaro | jmcnaught: i can upgrade, install et cetera just fine, i'm sure this is a known bug |
| 23:56.48 | dondelelcaro | if you can successfully mitm, you don't even need to break hashes |
| 23:56.50 | binary1985 | linux on the other hand is tougher(unless kerberos) but it still stands to reason if you use a Word and number for your PW you cant depend on technology |
| 23:58.08 | smilax | I'm having trouble with YouTube videos in Firefox in Stretch stuttering and freezing, especially at higher resolutions. Intel graphics, VLC can play HD video just fine. Strangest thing is it works fine in Mint on the same machine. Does anyone have an idea what settings or configurations I should be changing or looking at? |
| 23:58.28 | binary1985 | dondelelcaro: sounds like a comment a person with junior understanding might say, yeah mitm is great, intercept web traffic...ohhh so great, but when you are trying to privilege escalate a windows enterprise domain pure mitm on a single client gives you a microscopic look at what you really are searching for. |
| 23:58.33 | sypher | There is so much bad information flying around this channel right now. |
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