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| 02:16.39 | will_ | can i get some git help ? |
| 02:17.32 | will_ | trying to set up git so that i can clone a repo into /var/www/html |
| 02:18.54 | maxxe | try #git to git some help ;) |
| 02:19.14 | mrr0butt | setup git for cloning? |
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| 03:06.30 | qu1nn_1 | working on the manual installation of nextcloud; following up on some of the hardening suggestions; I am not a tinkerer / full time admin... how do I give php read access to /dev/urandom file? |
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| 03:20.20 | Lady_Aleena | Hello. I'm reading https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/159094/how-to-install-a-deb-file-by-dpkg-i-or-by-apt and is it suod dpkg -i /path <enter> then sudo apt-get -f <enter>? |
| 03:20.51 | Lady_Aleena | With this spelled correctly. |
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| 03:32.52 | booh | I have a very old Debian that I convert in vm in Proxmox. I have problem at boot with old clamav... freeze on it. I would like to disable it but I don't know how to interrupt the booting to modify config... |
| 03:33.17 | booh | it use Lilo |
| 03:33.44 | cef | booh: boot into single user? |
| 03:36.00 | booh | I don't know how |
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| 03:37.14 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: it doesn't already? |
| 03:37.16 | booh | ok Linux S |
| 03:39.32 | qu1nn_1 | jmcnaught: I dont know how to tell if it is or not... |
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| 03:40.24 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: how is PHP running, which user is it running as? what are the permissions on /dev/urandom? |
| 03:44.55 | qu1nn_1 | jmcnaught: I am a set it and forget it newb, I assume php is running under direction from the nextcloud installation, /dev/urandom shows crw-rw-rw- when performing ls -l |
| 03:45.51 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: do you know which web server you are using? |
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| 03:47.15 | qu1nn_1 | apache2 |
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| 03:47.56 | qu1nn_1 | jmcnaught: apache2 |
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| 03:48.38 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: are you using mod-php, or php-fpm? look in /etc/apache2/modules-enabled, and "systemctl | grep php" |
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| 03:51.16 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: if you are using mod-php, then php will be running as the user apache2 runs as, www-data. If you are using php-fpm and using the default pool, then it will also be running as www-data. However it is possible that nextcloud or whatever adds pools to php-fpm and confs to apache2 |
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| 03:54.09 | qu1nn_1 | jmcnaught: sorry for delay see https://snag.gy/zw1u0t.jpg |
| 03:55.52 | qu1nn_1 | and https://snag.gy/7vo3yE.jpg |
| 03:57.05 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: please use http://paste.debian.net/ i don't enable javascript for strange urls on this channel |
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| 04:08.56 | qu1nn_1 | jmcnaught: neither mod-php nor php-fpm appear in the list of 36 items that are contained within modules-enabled directory. |
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| 04:10.31 | qu1nn_1 | jmcnaught: sorry I am wrong, grep does show php7.0-fpm.service loaded anctive running |
| 04:11.03 | jmcnaught | !pastebinit |
| 04:11.03 | dpkg | A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 04:11.38 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: you can use that to make pastes, like "ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled | pastebinit" |
| 04:14.20 | qu1nn_1 | thanks, Ill try it, give me a few to catch up |
| 04:15.34 | booh | How to know wich version for my very old debian? In sources.list it was sid... |
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| 04:16.13 | qu1nn_1 | jmcnaught: https://paste.debian.net/976720/ |
| 04:18.53 | booh | Linux hostname 2.4.27-2-586tsc #1 Wed Nov 30 21:29:45 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 04:19.17 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: you have php7.0 module enabled, which you don't need if you are using php-fpm. Look in /etc/apache2/conf-enabled and sites-enabled for a file from nextcloud |
| 04:22.18 | qu1nn_1 | jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/976721/ |
| 04:23.04 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: did you edit any files in /etc/apache2 to get nextcloud working? |
| 04:24.36 | qu1nn_1 | jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/976723/ using systemctl |grep php |
| 04:25.40 | qu1nn_1 | yes lots of config files and ini files were changed |
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| 04:28.52 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: well, I don't know what you've done. it looks like you've tried to combine two separate ways of using PHP with Apache |
| 04:30.32 | qu1nn_1 | jmcnaught: yeah, sorry. tried to follow the administrative guide for the install. |
| 04:31.12 | qu1nn_1 | there is a suggestions page for tightening up security and I am just trying to follow up on each item. Sucks being a newb |
| 04:31.48 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: one way is to install libapache2-mod-php, which is a module that runs inside the apache process and interprets PHP scripts. The other way you're also trying, uses php7.0-fpm, which runs a PHP interpreter in a separate process, which Apache connects to using mod_proxy_fcgi |
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| 04:34.10 | qu1nn_1 | jmcnaught: libapache2-mod-php7.0 is installed, there is also a libapache2-mod-php there which is not installed, should i? |
| 04:34.28 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: my advice is spend some time reading the docs for the software involved, Apache in particular. Start with the files in /usr/share/doc/apache2 especially README.Debian.gz (zless can open this file) |
| 04:34.47 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: the later is a meta-package that always installs the latest version of the former |
| 04:35.01 | jmcnaught | s/later/latter/ |
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| 04:36.18 | jmcnaught | qu1nn_1: Apache is also very well documented http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/ |
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| 04:37.41 | qu1nn_1 | jmcnaught: thanks for your time and pointers |
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| 04:45.50 | recodeking | what's Up Debian? |
| 04:47.13 | nemo_ | as usual |
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| 04:51.33 | jrmu | jmcnaught: hey thanks for pastebinit, I didn't know that existed |
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| 04:53.43 | Sandipan | Hello All |
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| 05:29.47 | nemo_roy | Welcome All |
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| 05:38.09 | nemo_roy | INFO |
| 05:39.02 | average | hi |
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| 05:48.43 | jiggawattz | Hey so Ian is dead - but how is Deb doing? |
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| 05:52.06 | jmcnaught | jiggawattz: the family has requested privacy, we try to honour that here. |
| 05:55.30 | cef | waits not-so-patiently for 4.11 to actually hit stretch-backports. |
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| 06:15.40 | Sabotender | greetings, how can I back up meaningful data from a drive that has been encrypted if I am not able to boot into it? |
| 06:16.08 | Sabotender | I am getting DMA errors and I have read online that it could either be a failing drive or a controller on the motherboard |
| 06:21.13 | pingfloyd | using dm-crypt? |
| 06:21.36 | pingfloyd | have you tried booting up a live environment and using cryptset to open it manually? |
| 06:21.43 | pingfloyd | *cryptsetup |
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| 06:35.11 | pragomer | hi. my xfce-session under debian stretch always autostarts firefox and thunar when I logged in (autologin). I cannot see how this "autostart" is "done". any ideas? Session saving is not used |
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| 06:38.53 | cruncher | pragomer, you may not use save session now, but maybe it was saved at some point. Did you try "Clear saved sessions"? |
| 06:39.39 | pragomer | i looked under .config/xfce4-session/ there was no file in it... or what do you mean by "clear saved sessions" ? is this somewhere in settings? |
| 06:39.58 | cruncher | pragomer, Settings, session and startup, session |
| 06:40.26 | pragomer | got it. will test it right now |
| 06:40.31 | cruncher | and if that doesnt help, the autostart files are in .config/autostart |
| 06:40.54 | cruncher | but it should work with the first option |
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| 06:43.32 | pragomer | cruncher: THAT was the thing. "Clear Saved Sessions" in session settings worked. Thank you such much :-) |
| 06:43.40 | cruncher | you are welcome |
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| 07:08.55 | guavas | Hi all. What should I write in the mail to get an account for the debian wiki? |
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| 07:19.54 | jmcnaught | guavas: tell them why you want an account, perhaps the pages you were planning on contributing to |
| 07:20.37 | guavas | jmcnaught, and send them the password and name in clear? |
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| 07:21.58 | jmcnaught | guavas: did you already try to make an account? |
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| 07:23.32 | jmcnaught | guavas: don't email them a password. you may need to tell them the username that you will use so they can whitelist it. If you email the list, they typically follow-up with you in private. Make sure to use a FirstnameLastname username following the MoinMoin wiki convention |
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| 07:25.07 | guavas | jmcnaught, yes I tried to make an account from the wiki, it says to send an email to register |
| 07:25.26 | guavas | jmcnaught, thanks that is all I needed to know, I'll send an email |
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| 09:09.46 | jrmu | Hi all, just installed debian stretch but I'm having problems enabling sudo for my user |
| 09:10.05 | jrmu | I uncommented sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL in /etc/sudoers, then ran # usermod <username> sudo |
| 09:10.47 | jrmu | then logged in and out, but sudo is still not working |
| 09:11.48 | jrmu | running $ groups shows that <username> is indeed in sudo |
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| 09:14.51 | jrmu | ok I fixed it by adding a new line <username> ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL right under the root line, but I'm not sure why simply adding my user to the sudo group didn't work |
| 09:14.51 | jrmu | *adding the line in the /etc/sudoers file |
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| 09:23.57 | nemo_roy | Any NM present here |
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| 09:50.24 | guavas | jrmu, tried the adduser USERNAME sudo? |
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| 09:55.35 | Randy2 | hello |
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| 09:57.02 | Randy2 | I'm using debian 8.8 , and the x server don't go |
| 09:58.18 | Randy2 | hello |
| 09:58.50 | rk[ghost] | i noticed a strange effect, i think it is due to nature of a symlink. i call chown -R bob:alice mydir |
| 09:59.10 | rk[ghost] | however, everything in mydir/symdir |
| 09:59.15 | rk[ghost] | is still root:root |
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| 10:00.46 | rk[ghost] | doh, i just noticed --dereference in the manpage of chown.. going to try it out :) |
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| 10:34.58 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
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| 11:29.32 | pingouin | i hate firefox ! |
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| 11:30.29 | pingouin | slaps Firefox with IE |
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| 11:31.35 | mr__tea | pingouin: let it all out! |
| 11:34.35 | pingouin | :) |
| 11:35.04 | pingouin | why the Mozilla foundation hates us so much ?! Why ?! |
| 11:35.24 | pingouin | i know must use chrome...can you belive that ?! |
| 11:35.32 | pingouin | /s/know/now |
| 11:36.10 | pingouin | because they breaks Alsa...with their troublesome code... |
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| 11:39.05 | BluesKaj | pingouin, the new FF requires pulseaudio |
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| 12:04.44 | pingouin | BluesKaj: yes..this is the problem...i do not run pulseaudio...:/ |
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| 12:05.01 | pingouin | so...installed chrome...works great...sadly... |
| 12:05.55 | BluesKaj | yup, same here pingouin ...but I don't miss FF |
| 12:06.01 | pingouin | Mozilla wants me to install something i do not need...forgot that i can remove their firefox too... sad story for Firefox... |
| 12:06.22 | pingouin | i feel bad to use chrome :/ |
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| 12:07.01 | pingouin | but i do not want to jiggle between pulse/jackd/config..etc...Alsa/Jackd works great...why would they do that ?! |
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| 12:08.10 | littlekitty | !help |
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| 12:08.33 | BluesKaj | pin no idea |
| 12:08.39 | BluesKaj | pingouin, ^ |
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| 12:09.12 | littlekitty | !tutorial |
| 12:09.13 | dpkg | A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their system without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way. |
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| 12:09.24 | littlekitty | !docs |
| 12:09.24 | dpkg | Before asking, please read the documentation. Documentation isn't always easy to read, but that doesn't excuse you from (a) trying and (b) sending patches to improve the docs. If you don't do this, expect to be told to RTFM by impatient volunteers. Dick Brandon said that "Documentation is like sex: When it is good, it is very, very, good. And when it is bad, it is better than nothing." Ask me about <finding docs>, <manuals>. |
| 12:09.54 | littlekitty | !manuals |
| 12:09.54 | dpkg | If you are looking for manuals, guides and procedures focusing on Debian - from a user perspective, the administrator's view and others - see http://www.debian.org/doc/ . Also ask me about <reference> and <grounding>. |
| 12:10.03 | jmcnaught | littlekitty: if you have a question please just ask, or /msg the bot privately |
| 12:10.29 | littlekitty | jmcnaught, okay i'm sorry |
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| 12:11.24 | littlekitty | i'm in a search for a gentle introduction to debian |
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| 12:11.37 | littlekitty | for someone who grew up using windows only |
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| 12:12.31 | jmcnaught | https://www.debian.org/doc/ has a lot of resources, you may want to look at the Debian Administrator's Handbook and Debian Reference |
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| 12:12.57 | DarkNight777 | hi everyone |
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| 12:13.15 | pingouin | hi DarkNight777 |
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| 12:14.48 | littlekitty | jmcnaught thank you. do you know of any resource that targets for windows users? like a programming book that reads 'java for c devs' |
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| 12:16.38 | jmcnaught | littlekitty: there are lots of print titles like that available for purchase, but I don't know which are current or well written. The free books that I mentioned are pretty good for the price though |
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| 12:20.39 | littlekitty | jmcnaught okay I'll check out that handbook then |
| 12:20.59 | littlekitty | jmcnaught: thanks for the links |
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| 12:24.24 | rootkea | Hello! I want to add -fdiagnostics-color=always if the gcc on that system supports this flag. Right now I have WARN_CFLAGS="$WARN_CFLAGS -fdiagnostics-color=always" |
| 12:24.43 | rootkea | But this fails if the gcc on that particular system doesn't support -fdiagnostics-color |
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| 12:56.26 | lxsameer | hey guys where can i find the old stable cd images ? |
| 12:56.27 | br320 | hello one |
| 12:56.47 | br320 | i got problems with apt-get ... dpkg failure |
| 12:57.34 | br320 | i can not get de mysql-server, it gave me an error after remove from the first intaltion why ... i use debian jessi. |
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| 12:59.16 | dvs | lxsameer, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 12:59.32 | Putti | br320, I had same or similar problem with mariadb, so maybe it's a bug. Can you paste the message you get? |
| 12:59.33 | lxsameer | dvs: cheers |
| 12:59.49 | dvs | chugs up |
| 12:59.52 | Putti | br320, though, I used stretch |
| 13:00.48 | br320 | the answer for this is to remove the all files that left in your seystem ... try first apt-get autoremove |
| 13:01.07 | br320 | apt-get autoclean |
| 13:01.53 | br320 | for REMOVE in $(dpkg --get-selections | grep deinstall | cut -f1 ) ; do dpkg -p $REMOVE ; done |
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| 13:02.32 | br320 | it resolve me the problem ... now i can install mysql-server again ... :-) |
| 13:02.40 | Putti | br320, but what was the message apt gave you? |
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| 13:08.47 | hexhaxtron | Can someone help me with nginx? They don't reply in #nginx |
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| 13:09.14 | hexhaxtron | I want to load PHP pages but it asks me to open/save instead of loading them. |
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| 13:09.42 | forcerecon | morning debian |
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| 13:10.43 | forcerecon | still going strong for last 20 hours.. - http://i.imgur.com/FN0YC1u.jpg but getting there. I hope I configured it properly... heh |
| 13:10.44 | forcerecon | its at about 85% today.. |
| 13:12.09 | cesdo | Hey, why this stream is not working with deadbeef? https://fm939.wnyc.org/wnycfm-web |
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| 13:15.15 | jmcnaught | hexhaxtron: can you provide a summary with pastes of configs of what you have done to get it working? |
| 13:15.26 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: sure! |
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| 13:16.17 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: I've messed a lot with the config: https://paste.debian.net/976761/ |
| 13:16.31 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: I think there's nothing in the logs. |
| 13:17.10 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: it works with website/index.php but not with website/~hexhaxtron/index.php |
| 13:17.39 | hexhaxtron | Actually... website/index.php is not working anymore... |
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| 13:17.56 | jmcnaught | hexhaxtron: looks like you are having trouble matching with regex |
| 13:18.17 | hexhaxtron | It could be. Do you know how to fix it? |
| 13:18.54 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: it needs to match /home/h/hexhaxtron/www/index.php or /home/u/username/www/index.php and so on. |
| 13:19.31 | hexhaxtron | Or inside other directories like /home/h/hexhaxtron/www/foo/bar/index.php |
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| 13:23.03 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: I removed some comments. website/index.php is working again but not website/~hexhaxtron/index.php |
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| 13:23.20 | jmcnaught | hexhaxtron: removing comments should not change behaviour |
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| 13:23.50 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: I commented everything else just to see if PHP would work. |
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| 13:25.12 | forcerecon | <?php phpinfo(); ?> |
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| 13:26.02 | torandu | hello. i'm following instructions here https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch04s03.html.en. in section 4.3.3.1 it's not clear to me how big of a partition to create in this case. any advice? thx |
| 13:26.10 | jmcnaught | hexhaxtron: do you want all .php files to be interpreted, or only the ones at certain paths? |
| 13:26.20 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: all of them. |
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| 13:28.39 | jmcnaught | torandu: just make it large enough for the files you're going to put on it? |
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| 13:29.25 | jmcnaught | hexhaxtron: then maybe try using something like the example here: https://www.nginx.com/resources/wiki/start/topics/examples/phpfcgi/ |
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| 13:30.12 | jmcnaught | (using the unix socket path instead of 127.0.0.1:9000) |
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| 13:33.39 | dvs | torandu, why are you making your own USB installer? |
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| 13:35.09 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: same thing, open/save... Current config: https://paste.debian.net/976764/ |
| 13:35.54 | torandu | dvs: i want a usb installer to set up multiple machines. also want a data partition on same for some packages and other data |
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| 13:37.55 | dvs | ah |
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| 13:38.44 | jmcnaught | hexhaxtron: i don't think you've done it right, line 137 starts a location stanza, which ends on line 142, then outside of that stanza you have fastcgi_pass declared. You may also have conflicting parts of your config |
| 13:38.46 | torandu | anyway, jmcnaught put me on the path. the answer afaict is ~20M. not much |
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| 13:39.42 | jmcnaught | torandu: i haven't done this before, i usually just install from a hybrid ISO image. You may need to experiment, and/or estimate on the large side |
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| 13:40.06 | torandu | yes, will for that little. 100M |
| 13:40.50 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: the } in line 142 is for the if condition. |
| 13:41.12 | jmcnaught | hexhaxtron: clean it up and I'll take another look |
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| 13:42.42 | boodie | Hi everybody (jessie): I want to take the opportunity to upgrade both to Stretch and my desktop PC. Do you reckon it's easier to replicate this machine (packages and all) and THEN upgrade, or backup /home, configure the new hardware and then restore the contents of /home? |
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| 13:43.27 | jmcnaught | boodie: Debian is easy to upgrade. Do a backup, and follow the instructions in the release notes. |
| 13:44.15 | jmcnaught | oh, you mean upgrade computer too. you can probably just put your old harddrive into the new computer |
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| 13:44.50 | boodie | jmcnaught: Th third possibility is to upgrade on the current machine and THEN replicate the packages on the new hardware ... what do you think? |
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| 13:45.05 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: I've cleaned it: https://paste.debian.net/976766/ |
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| 13:45.42 | boodie | Just trying to elaborate a strategy |
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| 13:46.32 | forcerecon | I have a fairly new pc and after installing stretch I was getting tired of seeing the bluetooth icon.. so I decided to turn it off in the bios. Once I did that the machine would just blackscreen.. turn it back on and boots.. is that a glitch or can linux just not handle a hardware change on the fly like that |
| 13:48.16 | jmcnaught | forcerecon: Linux can generally handle and hardware it has support for when it boots. If you want to find out what happened, you should check your logs. |
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| 13:49.22 | forcerecon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:50.29 | jmcnaught | hexhaxtron: you still have multiple # Userdir with PHP sections at line 46 and 107 |
| 13:51.02 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: one is for thunix.org and the other is for www.thunix.org |
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| 13:51.33 | jmcnaught | hexhaxtron: i don't use nginx but there's gotta be an easier way to do that |
| 13:51.55 | jmcnaught | (that doesn't require duplicating the config just to get www.example.com and example.com) |
| 13:52.13 | hexhaxtron | Yes, but I don't know how. |
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| 13:52.27 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: what about the PHP issue, any ideas? |
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| 13:53.25 | jrmu | guavas: I didn't try adduser USERNAME sudo, but if I type groups, my username is definitely in the sudo group. I'm not sure why sudo isn't working for it |
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| 13:53.35 | jrmu | I ended up just adding the username directly into the /etc/sudoers file, instead of relying on the sudo group, but I'm not sure why it didn't work |
| 13:53.50 | tdn | I have a apt repository with my own packages. Packages are signed with my GPG key and it works fine for Debiann 8. Now I want to install these packages in debian 9 and apt-get complains packages are not authenticated. How do I make my package signing work for both debian 8 and 9? |
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| 13:55.53 | jmcnaught | hexhaxtron: you probably need to spend more time with the nginx docs. Like, should the second starting at line 62 be outside of Userdir part, or should the userdir part be nested inside of it |
| 13:56.37 | jmcnaught | tdn: https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#apt-new-requirements-to-mirrors |
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| 13:57.55 | tdn | jmcnaught, thanks! |
| 13:58.14 | tdn | jmcnaught, so if I update my signature to using sha256 it should work for both debian 8 and 9, right? |
| 13:58.29 | jmcnaught | tdn: you also need an InRelease file |
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| 14:00.11 | tdn | jmcnaught, ok |
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| 14:03.43 | tdn | jmcnaught, hmm... I think I already have both InRelease and a correct key. I have this in .gnupg/gpg.conf: default-preference-list SHA512 SHA384 SHA256 SHA224 AES256 AES192 AES CAST5 BZIP2 ZLIB ZIP Uncompressed |
| 14:03.50 | tdn | And: cert-digest-algo SHA512 |
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| 14:04.46 | tdn | And then I ran gpg --gen-key to generate key. And then : gpg --armor --output mykey.gpg.key --export <code>. |
| 14:05.22 | tdn | jmcnaught, wouldnt that be good? |
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| 14:05.45 | tdn | I think this should give me sha512 which is "at least sha256" which is required, right? |
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| 14:07.07 | jmcnaught | tdn: the note about sha256 in the release notes is about checksums for all items |
| 14:07.44 | boodie | Hi: I am planning to purchase an assembled desktop PC with two SSDs and Windows preinstalled on one of them, in order to be able to dual boot. This will be done by the shop, while installing whichever debian will be up to me (obviously). Any issues to be aware of (e.g. UEFI problems)? |
| 14:08.03 | tdn | jmcnaught, I just dont know what I am missing. |
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| 14:08.51 | tdn | jmcnaught, I create the repo via reprepro. I think that might be the one making the hashes. |
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| 14:13.57 | hexhaxtron | jmcnaught: how should I paste code in the nginx forum? |
| 14:14.15 | hexhaxtron | There should be something like <code> and </code> I think. |
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| 14:15.06 | jmcnaught | tdn: i haven't used it before, but are you using the version on stretch to make the repo? |
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| 14:15.17 | jmcnaught | hexhaxtron: i don't know what you mean about code tags |
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| 14:15.49 | tdn | jmcnaught, no, I do not yet have a build server in stretch |
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| 14:16.26 | tdn | jmcnaught, you think if I upgrade build server it would just work? |
| 14:17.14 | jmcnaught | tdn: i don't know, but if apt has new requirements in stretch, the reprepro in stretch is more likely to handle them. check the changelogs. |
| 14:17.45 | tdn | jmcnaught, will do. thanks. You got me a step closer to solving this I think :) |
| 14:18.13 | jmcnaught | tdn: good luck ⺠|
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| 14:24.11 | tdn | jmcnaught, thanks |
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| 15:04.18 | perseptole | hi. i am looking for a way to create a list in the form of a tree diagram of my debian folder structure (or of a part of it, e.g. the home folder). how can I achieve that? |
| 15:04.57 | perseptole | i would like it to be a simple textfile including the folder names and filenames in it |
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| 15:09.36 | petemc | perseptole: tree /home/foo |
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| 15:16.58 | perseptole | petemc: awesome, thanks! |
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| 15:27.00 | BitNebula | Hello, yesterday I booted my computer to the error screen of "Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't recover." From my research this is a gnome problem I believe. How can I troubleshoot this? I upgraded yesterday so I believe that could be the culprit. I just looked at my apt history and xserver-xorg-core was one of the services upgraded. Additionally, I am able to run programs in the |
| 15:27.01 | BitNebula | terminal fine |
| 15:27.08 | BitNebula | (tty2, etc |
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| 15:28.24 | roger21 | yo, where do i get te bot log with the server start status and all? |
| 15:28.29 | roger21 | boot* |
| 15:28.45 | roger21 | debian 9 |
| 15:29.58 | th0r | roger21: dmesg? |
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| 15:31.54 | roger21 | th0r, i don't see the [OK] lines |
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| 15:33.33 | flypp | check ~/.xsession-errors |
| 15:33.43 | roger21 | what? |
| 15:34.00 | flypp | do you have access to the terminal? |
| 15:34.02 | roger21 | i don't evenhave x installed |
| 15:34.07 | roger21 | of course |
| 15:34.22 | th0r | I think that was a message for BitNebula |
| 15:34.31 | roger21 | oh |
| 15:34.32 | flypp | oh, yes, sorry about that |
| 15:34.39 | roger21 | np |
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| 15:34.48 | BitNebula | Lol my bad!. I will check that in a second flypp. Yes I have access to tty |
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| 15:35.36 | br320 | help i got an error while iam trying install mysql-server in debina jessi . |
| 15:35.41 | BitNebula | The last entry with in that file is "**(process:3673) WARNING**: software acceleration check failed: Child process exited with code 1" |
| 15:36.50 | br320 | error were encouter while processing mysq-server |
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| 15:37.04 | nvz | br320: paste the full output on paste.debian.net |
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| 15:37.36 | nvz | br320: or I can give you a generic answer for a generic summary of the error |
| 15:37.38 | BitNebula | flypp, the problem could be in relation to the xserver update though? I'm not sure |
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| 15:38.34 | flypp | I don't use gnome-shell... put I assume gnome-shell is trying to run in fallback mode. It's possible 3d acceleration is not working |
| 15:38.47 | br320 | i just have done the update, the first time i was running fine ... after deinstall it is like this whith this error ... what to do ? |
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| 15:40.07 | nvz | br320: that part of the error is the summary, its not specifically what caused the problem, standard approach is apt-get update; dpkg --configure -a; apt-get --fix-missing -f install; |
| 15:40.23 | nvz | br320: but that probably won't help, just like not giving the full output won't help you much |
| 15:40.26 | flypp | BitNebula, try "gnome-session" |
| 15:40.29 | flypp | type it |
| 15:40.54 | BitNebula | flypp, just typed it. Nothing is happening I'm just getting a blinking cursor that is hanging |
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| 15:41.52 | br320 | Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1ubuntu1) ... |
| 15:41.53 | br320 | Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-16) ... |
| 15:41.53 | br320 | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 15:41.53 | br320 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.09 | br320 | ya this the error ... |
| 15:42.52 | br320 | dpkg returned code error -1 |
| 15:42.53 | dpkg | br320: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 15:43.55 | br320 | first i installed fine ... ya it was fine ... then i remove with apt-get remove and now apt-get install doensk want to install it ... |
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| 15:44.57 | br320 | when i do apt-get install mysql-server, the error comes dpkg returned code error -1 |
| 15:45.00 | BitNebula | flypp, can I ctrl+c it now? There is also an error in journalctl I would like to show you, though I am not sure if it is related |
| 15:45.13 | flypp | BitNebula, you could try a 'dpkg --configure -a' . You can also try another session manager like lightdm, in case your problem is gdm related |
| 15:45.33 | flypp | yes, ofc you can, as gdm is not starting correctly |
| 15:45.45 | br320 | i looked it in google but it doenst work... it return the same error |
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| 15:46.47 | nvz | br320: I've already told you at least twice now, that message is the last line on the output summerizing the exit code of apt, there are literally millions of reasons that could happen, without the entire output of the command nobody can be of any help |
| 15:46.48 | BitNebula | flypp, here is the output from journalctl -p err: http://termbin.com/6muv |
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| 15:47.43 | nvz | br320: notice what BitNebula did ^ |
| 15:48.27 | br320 | ... |
| 15:48.36 | br320 | start: Job failed to start |
| 15:48.36 | br320 | invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed. |
| 15:48.36 | br320 | dpkg: error processing package mysql-server-5.6 (--install): |
| 15:48.36 | br320 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.36 | br320 | Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1ubuntu1) ... |
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| 15:48.37 | dpkg | br320: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 15:49.59 | nvz | ugh.. I told him both in here and when he /msg me to use paste.debian.net |
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| 15:50.52 | nvz | he's not even using debian |
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| 15:51.19 | BitNebula | lol |
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| 15:51.30 | flypp | BitNebula, could you try installig lightdm and look if you can have a working enviroment? |
| 15:51.35 | BitNebula | Here I am trying to get help and providing all the info I can :P |
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| 15:52.07 | flypp | ... so we can see if your problem is only gdm related |
| 15:52.18 | BitNebula | flypp, will do. Do I just need to apt install it? Or do I need to configure? |
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| 15:52.46 | flypp | after installing, you will prompt to choose to use gdm3 or lightdm |
| 15:53.17 | BitNebula | flypp, ok cool. SHould I reboot or can I just start it now? |
| 15:53.30 | BitNebula | flypp, guess I'll reboot just to be safe |
| 15:54.06 | flypp | you need to reboot |
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| 15:54.51 | BitNebula | flypp, Yup I get a graphical interface now |
| 15:55.27 | BitNebula | flypp, Well once I login that same error comes up with the background still showing |
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| 15:56.39 | flypp | so... you don't have a working environment? |
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| 15:57.27 | BitNebula | flypp, Nope. The background debian 8 splashpage still show but the error still pops up so I'd say no |
| 15:57.42 | BitNebula | I can login, which is farther than I could with gnome, but can't do anything else |
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| 15:58.29 | flypp | did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 15:58.52 | flypp | cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "EE" |
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| 15:59.18 | BitNebula | termbin.com/4psa |
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| 16:00.09 | flypp | oh... what is this? I assumed you were using nouveau. Did you installed nvidia drivers? |
| 16:00.26 | BitNebula | flypp, yes I have nvidia's official drivers installed |
| 16:01.08 | flypp | but you had some nouveau errors on your journalctl... nouveau should not be loaded |
| 16:01.26 | flypp | lsmod | grep nouveau |
| 16:01.29 | BitNebula | flypp, Yeah that seems to have been occuring since I first install debian |
| 16:01.55 | BitNebula | flypp, termbin.com/bmeu |
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| 16:03.05 | flypp | mmm.. so you have nouveau working alongside nvidia. Which one do you want to use? |
| 16:03.06 | BitNebula | flypp, and here is grepping for nvidia: termbin.com/nu26 |
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| 16:03.25 | BitNebula | I'd say the official nvidia drivers. I do machine learning with these gfx cards so I need nvidia support |
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| 16:04.24 | flypp | do you have /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-blacklists-nouveau.conf ? |
| 16:04.38 | flypp | the content should be 'blacklist nouveau' |
| 16:05.23 | BitNebula | flypp, the only files I have in /etc/modprobe.d are dkms.conf, modesetting.conf and open-vm-tools-dkms.conf |
| 16:05.51 | flypp | ok. Try to create it yourself |
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| 16:06.18 | flypp | or... we can just reinstall + reconfigure nvidia packages, as the nvidia installer should create that file |
| 16:06.52 | BitNebula | flypp, I'll try making the file first. Should I reboot after making it? |
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| 16:07.43 | flypp | yes |
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| 16:08.31 | BitNebula | flypp, hmm that error is still appearing. It occurs before I unlock my encrypted container |
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| 16:09.14 | BitNebula | flypp, yup and now that I'm in lightdm the "oh no! something has gone wrong" error has shown |
| 16:10.12 | flypp | ok, let's try the easy way. Remove the file you created on /etc/modprobe.d and remove any nvidia package installed |
| 16:10.53 | flypp | apt-get remove `dpkg -l | grep nvidia | tr -s " " | cut -d" " -f2` |
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| 16:11.23 | flypp | so your system will use only nouveu driver. Reboot and check if you can have a working environment |
| 16:11.31 | flypp | if so, you can install the nvidia drivers |
| 16:12.04 | BitNebula | flypp, so I haven't run that command yet, but grepping for nvidia in apt list --installed and dpkg -l does not show any entries |
| 16:12.35 | flypp | dpkg -l | grep nvidia shows nothing? |
| 16:12.35 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep nvidia shows nothing |
| 16:13.04 | BitNebula | flypp, correct |
| 16:14.08 | BitNebula | flypp, if I recall, I had to download the deb package from nvidia and it installed it as a dkms |
| 16:14.08 | flypp | ok, so for some reason nouveu was re-enabled in the update, removing all nvidia packages but not making the correct changes to use nouveau |
| 16:14.22 | flypp | are you using stretch? |
| 16:14.51 | BitNebula | flypp, well the thing is, I have gotten that nouveu error ever since I first installed nvidia like 6-8 months ago, however it never caused problems |
| 16:15.00 | flypp | well, even using a donwloaded deb, the package would be listed in a dpkg -l, so don't worry, you don't have any nvidia package isntalled |
| 16:15.13 | BitNebula | flypp, no, i use jessie stable |
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| 16:16.07 | BitNebula | flypp, Well it must have been removed yesterday because I definitely had nvidia drivers beforehand |
| 16:16.08 | towo` | BitNebula, whatever you have downloaded from nvidia, they do not provide deb packages |
| 16:16.37 | towo` | and using the foo.run installer is not a good idea |
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| 16:16.58 | flypp | either way, just install the nvidia drivers from the debian repository |
| 16:17.09 | flypp | you can try directly aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 16:17.26 | BitNebula | I mean is it a good idea to try to install them over the one I currently have though? |
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| 16:17.40 | BitNebula | If I recall the debian repo never updated their drivers to support the latest cards, which I have |
| 16:17.44 | flypp | dpkg -l shows no nvidia packate installed |
| 16:17.45 | dpkg | No packages found matching shows no nvidia packate installed |
| 16:18.24 | BitNebula | flypp, there are dkms entries for nvidia though |
| 16:18.44 | flypp | the problem is not the drivers. Is the kernel version on Jessie. I switched to Stretch so I can play games from steam |
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| 16:19.45 | BitNebula | flypp, on jessie (oldstable) on the debian package website it shows on 340.102-1 |
| 16:19.48 | BitNebula | As the current version |
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| 16:21.03 | towo` | and backports wopuld have a recent version |
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| 16:22.03 | BitNebula | I still have the nvidia- commands on the terminal, can I run one of these to show what is going on? |
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| 16:22.21 | BitNebula | nvidia-smi says I have driver version 378.13 installed |
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| 16:22.52 | flypp | i don't know how you can have those commands with any of the nvidia packages installed |
| 16:23.20 | BitNebula | flypp, thats what I'm saying the nvidia package is definitely installed, it was working earlier in the day yesterday |
| 16:23.27 | flypp | but that drivers needs a newer version of the linux kernel that jessie uses |
| 16:24.02 | towo` | flypp, no, why should it? |
| 16:24.21 | BitNebula | Are you guys sure it doesn't have to do with the xserver update I install yesterday? |
| 16:24.41 | towo` | BitNebula, congratulations, you have installed the dribver with the run-installer, that is not supported in debian |
| 16:25.07 | flypp | if I donwload a *.deb packege to install something, it will show in dpkg -l |
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| 16:25.30 | towo` | nvidia does not provide deb packages on their website |
| 16:25.50 | flypp | so he used the *.run script? |
| 16:25.52 | towo` | they only provide a generic installer, which is bypassing the package management |
| 16:26.07 | BitNebula | yes I ran a .run you're right, and nvidia has their own installer that has an updater |
| 16:26.23 | BitNebula | But I haven't used that in 2-3 months and everything was working |
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| 16:26.45 | towo` | until the next update of xserver or mesa |
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| 16:27.17 | towo` | and again, using that installer is not supported here |
| 16:27.26 | BitNebula | I see |
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| 16:28.11 | BitNebula | So the problem is the update of xserver triggered this error since this is not a supported package |
| 16:28.17 | BitNebula | or not a package at all, rather |
| 16:28.31 | nkuttler | BitNebula: try nvidia-install --uninstall |
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| 16:29.01 | towo` | debian has a package nvidia-installer-cleanup |
| 16:29.11 | towo` | which should be able to fix that crap |
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| 16:29.43 | nohitall | anyone can hint me how to compile kernel under stretch? there is no kernel-package anymore for all the tools |
| 16:29.59 | nkuttler | !tell nohitall about kernel handbook |
| 16:30.04 | towo` | make bindeb-pkg |
| 16:30.16 | BitNebula | towo`, so you're saying run that, and then add jessie-backports to me apt sources, and then install nvidia driver from there? |
| 16:30.28 | towo` | BitNebula, exact |
| 16:30.30 | zophyx | i installed debian from dvd's choosing not to install networking, now afterwards, how can i install networking support ? |
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| 16:30.48 | nohitall | nkuttler: thanks |
| 16:30.53 | nkuttler | zophyx: do you still have the dvd? |
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| 16:31.08 | zophyx | nkuttler: oh yes, i do |
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| 16:31.55 | ihatecsv | Hello! I have Debian Stretch installed on my /dev/sda, and I also have another 1TB drive at /dev/sdb that I want to install Windows 10 on temporarily. |
| 16:31.56 | nkuttler | zophyx: there should be cdrom entries in your sources.list, so you can just install from them |
| 16:32.04 | BitNebula | towo`, would you suggest the nvidia-installer-cleanup restore the xconfig? |
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| 16:32.27 | ihatecsv | Do I need to do anything special to get a dual-boot going with Win 10 and Debian? |
| 16:33.18 | nkuttler | ihatecsv: sounds more like a question for ##windows.. who knows what their installer does.. |
| 16:33.48 | zophyx | nkuttler: i don't know the packages i need to install, or the dpkg... or installer helper programs to run |
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| 16:34.04 | nkuttler | zophyx: what are you trying to do that doesn't work? |
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| 16:35.22 | BluesKaj | ihatecsv, installing windows after linux will wipe your grub file |
| 16:35.41 | BluesKaj | bootloader |
| 16:35.47 | zophyx | nkuttler: i couldn't find a way to enter a wireless password during the install from the dvd's so i skipped the installation of networking support, now after i have debian installed i need to install networking support |
| 16:36.02 | PipeItToDevNull | BluesKaj, assuming a BIOS or legacy system |
| 16:36.06 | BitNebula | towo`, is there I can tell if this is working? It seems to be hanging |
| 16:36.15 | PipeItToDevNull | BluesKaj, EFI wont be affected |
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| 16:37.02 | nkuttler | zophyx: sounds like you want to install network-manager-gnome |
| 16:37.23 | BluesKaj | PipeItToDevNull, really ? that news to me ...but go ahead then |
| 16:37.35 | zophyx | nkuttler: ah, that might pull in everything i need, thnx, i'll try it ! |
| 16:37.36 | nkuttler | zophyx: or simply run nm-applet, in case you don't have it running yet |
| 16:37.55 | nkuttler | zophyx: if you installed the default desktop you probably already have it |
| 16:37.57 | PipeItToDevNull | BluesKaj, EFI is amaing, all boot files are held in the EFI partition and every OS makes their own directory there |
| 16:38.05 | PipeItToDevNull | amazing |
| 16:38.28 | zophyx | nkuttler: gotta boot into debian now, see ya later |
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| 16:40.49 | JPT | So ... upgrading from Debian Jessie (8) to Stretch (9). |
| 16:40.50 | BluesKaj | including grub which gets wiped in the /uefi /boot partition when windows is installed |
| 16:41.07 | JPT | Mysql is being replaced by mariadb and i get a "Too many levels of symbolic links". Is this a common issue? |
| 16:41.34 | nkuttler | JPT: paste.debian.net the entire error |
| 16:41.56 | BitNebula | towo`, so the cleanup seems to have frozen and ctrl-c does not work |
| 16:41.58 | JPT | Sure, one sec :) |
| 16:42.32 | nkuttler | BitNebula: anything in top/htop ? |
| 16:43.11 | JPT | Here we go: http://paste.debian.net/976796/ |
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| 16:43.23 | JPT | I included what ever accumulated in journalctl -f at the same time. |
| 16:43.30 | BitNebula | nkuttler, it seems nvidia-installer is running |
| 16:43.33 | BitNebula | aswell as normal nvidia |
| 16:44.01 | JPT | I'm clueless, because the mariadb.service file does not contain any "NAMESPACE" related things. |
| 16:44.03 | BitNebula | and apt |
| 16:44.06 | nkuttler | wtf is mariadb doing running install (1) from a service file.. ?! |
| 16:44.25 | JPT | It's basically in the middle of the upgrade |
| 16:44.51 | JPT | The mariadb.service file contains this: ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/install -m 755 -o mysql -g root -d /var/run/mysqld |
| 16:45.09 | JPT | running this manually returns with code 0 (it's fine) |
| 16:45.26 | nkuttler | JPT: i'd try to dpkg -i the package by hand from /var/cache/apt/archives and edit the postinst script in /var/lib/dpkg/info, add set -x at the top.. |
| 16:45.41 | JPT | I'll try that :) |
| 16:47.47 | jhutchins | What's the command that cleans up orphan autoinstalls? |
| 16:48.02 | nkuttler | jhutchins: deborphan? |
| 16:48.35 | jhutchins | I thought there was some autoremove or autoclean... |
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| 16:49.09 | nkuttler | well, there is autoremove |
| 16:49.31 | jhutchins | for which command? Or is it a stand-alone? |
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| 16:49.47 | nkuttler | jhutchins: apt-get/aptitude afaik |
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| 16:50.29 | jhutchins | apt-get, not aptitude. |
| 16:50.40 | nkuttler | apt-get best apt |
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| 16:51.49 | JPT | This namespace thing got me thinking a bit |
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| 16:52.06 | JPT | Might this be related to the ancient kernel this vps runs on? -- Linux vs2373 2.6.32-042stab117.14 #1 SMP Tue Aug 30 17:12:57 MSK 2016 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 16:52.17 | nkuttler | um.. |
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| 16:52.37 | nkuttler | JPT: that doesn't look like it would run stretch, but check the release notes |
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| 16:52.54 | nkuttler | and either upgrade your kernel or get better hosting.. anyway.. |
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| 16:53.06 | discovered | hello |
| 16:53.09 | BitNebula | nkuttler, towo` would it be safe to kill this process? I think it has hung |
| 16:53.12 | JPT | I got the usual warning while upgrading libc, but since it did not produce horrible results i figured it would be fine |
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| 16:53.27 | JPT | I'll see if i can get it to work somehow. Thanks :) |
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| 16:53.48 | nkuttler | BitNebula: well.. define safe.. |
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| 16:54.08 | wfq | hi all |
| 16:54.26 | jhutchins | BitNebula: I would say you already have problem. |
| 16:54.29 | wfq | when I try to install libmysqlclient-dev I get the following error: Package libmysqlclient-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 16:54.38 | wfq | I'm a bit stuck here. |
| 16:54.44 | BitNebula | nkuttler, well I'm not really sure what to do at this point... |
| 16:54.46 | nkuttler | ,v libmysqlclient-dev |
| 16:54.47 | judd | Package: libmysqlclient-dev on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.5.47-0+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.5.55-0+deb7u1; jessie: 5.5.55-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.5.55-0+deb8u1; sid: 5.7.18-1 |
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| 16:54.59 | nkuttler | wfq: paste.debian.net output of apt-cache policy |
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| 16:55.42 | jhutchins | wfq: Known problem. Hoping for a solution soon. |
| 16:55.43 | wfq | nkuttler apt-cache policy libmysqlclient-dev --> shows no candidates. I am using Stretch |
| 16:55.52 | nkuttler | wfq: yeah, not in stretch |
| 16:56.03 | jhutchins | wfq: You might consider mariadb instead. |
| 16:56.54 | jhutchins | Oddly, kde's mahjong requires mysql-server. |
| 16:56.54 | towo` | BitNebula, do you try that all from running X with half running binary blob? |
| 16:56.55 | wfq | I am going from error to error :). Thought I had MariaDb on as when I do mysql -u root -p Maria Db appears as prompt |
| 16:57.11 | BitNebula | towo`, could you rephrase that? Sorry |
| 16:57.15 | jhutchins | wfq: Then you do have maria installed. |
| 16:57.36 | wfq | dpkg -l mariadb-* shows that is installed |
| 16:57.36 | dpkg | No packages found matching mariadb-* shows that is installed |
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| 16:57.45 | towo` | BitNebula, i want to know, if you do that all from a xterm from a running x session? |
| 16:57.53 | jhutchins | wfq: What are you actually running when you get the install error? |
| 16:58.11 | BitNebula | towo`, I'm doing this from a tty session. Top does show Xorg running, however |
| 16:58.45 | BitNebula | Additionally it shows a gnome-session process |
| 16:58.46 | wfq | I am trying to install that library in isolation. I am now even more confused. I have both mysql and mariadb installed |
| 16:58.50 | jhutchins | BitNebula: You'll probably have fewer problems if you shut X down first (kill gdm or lightdm or whatever). |
| 16:58.54 | towo` | BitNebula, don't you think, stopping x would be a good idea before you try to uninstall that nvidia crap? |
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| 16:59.17 | jhutchins | wfq: Why are you installing a library? |
| 16:59.23 | BitNebula | towo`, well yes but I didn't know it was running since I didn't see a desktop enviornment. Do I just pkill, or is there a proper way? |
| 16:59.34 | wfq | jhutchins I need it to install mysqlclient python library |
| 16:59.49 | nkuttler | wfq: um |
| 16:59.51 | jhutchins | bit service <whatdm> stop |
| 16:59.58 | jhutchins | BitNebula: service <whatdm> stop |
| 17:00.01 | towo` | BitNebula, the propper way would be systemctl stop $yourdm |
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| 17:00.09 | nkuttler | wfq: apt-get install python-mysqldb ? |
| 17:00.31 | jhutchins | wfq: libraries are almost always installed through dependencies. |
| 17:00.32 | wfq | nkuttler that is installing a version of python 2 that is not the one I want |
| 17:00.43 | wfq | I installed python 3.6 |
| 17:00.47 | nkuttler | ... |
| 17:00.49 | wfq | manually |
| 17:00.51 | BitNebula | OK thank you. Should I reboot and try this again and kill lightdm first? |
| 17:00.51 | jhutchins | ,v python |
| 17:00.52 | nkuttler | wfq: oh well, have fun then |
| 17:00.53 | judd | Package: python on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.7.3-4+deb7u1; jessie: 2.7.9-1; buster: 2.7.13-2; sid: 2.7.13-2; stretch: 2.7.13-2 |
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| 17:01.13 | nkuttler | ,v python3.6 |
| 17:01.14 | judd | Package: python3.6 on amd64 -- buster: 3.6.2~rc2-2; sid: 3.6.2~rc2-2 |
| 17:01.24 | wfq | I am starting to regret to have updated from Wheezy to Jessie and from this to Stretch :) |
| 17:01.52 | JPT | Found a solution: Comment out "ProtectHome=true" in the mariadb.service file. >.> |
| 17:01.55 | jhutchins | wfq: It's a temporary glitch in package availability, not a failure of the relase. |
| 17:01.58 | nkuttler | wfq: did you install python3.6 from source? or did you use debian packages? |
| 17:02.38 | apollo13 | wfq: why would you even install it manually? |
| 17:02.53 | wfq | nkuttler I did it from source. From Debian I'd have to add a testing or unstable source and did not want to do such thing |
| 17:03.14 | apollo13 | *shrug* add the repo, set default release to stable and be done with it |
| 17:03.18 | BitNebula | towo`, jhutchins should lightdm be the only process I need to end? |
| 17:03.19 | nkuttler | ,checkbackport python3.6 |
| 17:03.21 | judd | Backporting package python3.6 in sidâstretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using stretch. |
| 17:03.23 | apollo13 | I bet that your source install is borked |
| 17:03.26 | nkuttler | apollo13: no |
| 17:03.33 | nkuttler | !tell wfq about ssbp |
| 17:03.52 | apollo13 | nkuttler: mhm? |
| 17:04.03 | nvz | python 3.6 is a development version |
| 17:04.09 | nkuttler | apollo13: you seem to suggest mixing stable/testing repos? |
| 17:04.28 | apollo13 | nkuttler: yeah, doing that since years :) |
| 17:04.32 | wfq | that's exactly what I wanted to avoid. It isn't generally a good idea from my perspective |
| 17:04.33 | nkuttler | nvz: it's not |
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| 17:04.41 | nvz | according to python.org it is |
| 17:04.45 | wfq | nvz, it is not a development version |
| 17:05.02 | apollo13 | well rc2 is development ;) |
| 17:05.17 | apollo13 | at least in debian, the 3.6.2 |
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| 17:05.21 | BitNebula | towo`, jhutchins So I rebooted, stopped lightdm and ran this nvidia-installer-cleanup and it is hanging again after I go past the prompt |
| 17:05.38 | apollo13 | nkuttler: anyways, are there any backports for 3.6 available? |
| 17:05.39 | wfq | but not python 3.6 by itself |
| 17:05.44 | nkuttler | apollo13: well, whatever works for you i guess, but it's not supported in here |
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| 17:05.50 | nkuttler | apollo13: no, but you can build your own |
| 17:05.53 | wfq | apollo13, that's a good question :) |
| 17:06.00 | nkuttler | !ssbp |
| 17:06.01 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 17:06.04 | apollo13 | nkuttler: ah, makes sense |
| 17:06.11 | nkuttler | and you can just use testing instead of sid in those instructions |
| 17:06.21 | wfq | nkuttler, I get it |
| 17:06.26 | apollo13 | mhm, what is a "local" variant for ,checkbackport ? |
| 17:06.35 | wfq | more work to do but the right way. |
| 17:06.42 | nkuttler | apollo13: tell me when you know |
| 17:06.59 | apollo13 | or rather any non irc variant |
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| 17:07.51 | wfq | nkuttler, That'd solve the problem with python 3.6. What about libmysqlclient... Is there anything I can do in the meantime? |
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| 17:08.26 | nkuttler | ,checkbackport libmysqlclient-dev |
| 17:08.27 | judd | Backporting package libmysqlclient-dev in sidâstretch/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using stretch. |
| 17:08.42 | nkuttler | mh |
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| 17:08.51 | nkuttler | that might not work though if it's a different mysql version |
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| 17:09.38 | nkuttler | jhutchins: what's this glitch you were talking about anyway? |
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| 17:11.32 | wfq | do you check the backport packages on the web... I mean is there any typical procedure you guys follow? |
| 17:11.49 | apollo13 | nkuttler: found it http://git.nanonanonano.net/?p=judd.git;a=blob;f=supybot/plugins/Judd/udd-cache;h=2e3c557ec075433b97f87ee644a5509e101f124d;hb=HEAD |
| 17:12.07 | nkuttler | apollo13: nice |
| 17:12.10 | apollo13 | so basically you need to grep judd and then can execute udd-cache |
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| 17:14.06 | apollo13 | nkuttler: crap, that thing directly connects to the udd postgres db |
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| 17:15.04 | apollo13 | https://udd-mirror.debian.net/ aha |
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| 17:16.03 | Sabotender | any idea how to run smart utility under linux? i am trying to back up this drive but not sure i can because of the errors its spitting out |
| 17:16.10 | BitNebula | towo`, jhutchins Still hanging even when I kill gdm3 and lightdm :| |
| 17:16.40 | towo` | BitNebula, now you see, why using that installer was a bad idea |
| 17:16.55 | towo` | happy fixing your fuckked install |
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| 17:17.05 | BitNebula | towo`, I mean this uninstaller is giving me more problems than the the installer did lol |
| 17:17.21 | BitNebula | This installer was my only choice my card wasn't supported when I did this : |
| 17:17.57 | towo` | no, it was not the only choise |
| 17:18.21 | apollo13 | nkuttler: https://dpaste.de/LBfY/raw -- nice :) |
| 17:18.28 | towo` | you had 2 supported choices, 1. unsing jessie-backports, 2. using stretch |
| 17:19.03 | BitNebula | towo`, ok but what I'm saying is when I first did this neither of those had drivers supporting the 1080 Ti |
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| 17:19.17 | BitNebula | Unless I missed something but I looked when I first did this |
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| 17:24.53 | BitNebula | Seemed to get it working, just had to run the nvidia uninstaller manually |
| 17:25.08 | BitNebula | all nvidia uninstalled :) |
| 17:25.38 | wfq | Thanks guys, a lot to catch up with |
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| 17:26.23 | BitNebula | I'm able to only use backports for certain packages right? |
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| 17:30.43 | iodev | apollo13, guess you seen that movie |
| 17:30.46 | iodev | :D |
| 17:31.20 | iodev | favorite scene: when they make that CO2 filter out of spare stuff and duck tape :D |
| 17:31.44 | BitNebula | How can I tell the version of the nvidia drivers jessie-backports will install? |
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| 17:34.07 | n4dir | BitNebula: try "apt-cache show <pkg-name>" |
| 17:34.17 | pingouin | BitNebula: apt list --all-versions <paquage-name> ? |
| 17:34.49 | n4dir | though you can always use -s , like simulate, which will give you the info what it will do without doing anything, iirc |
| 17:34.55 | pingouin | BitNebula: apt install -t stretch-backports <paquage-name> ? |
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| 17:35.23 | BitNebula | cool thanks that helped n4dir :_ |
| 17:35.25 | BitNebula | :)* |
| 17:35.40 | wfq | How do I ask the bot about deb-src sid |
| 17:36.04 | sebastia1 | hello, Im trying to connect to Postgres DB via IPSec from a PHP Script |
| 17:36.36 | n4dir | wfq: /msg dpkg ssb (like simple sid backport) ? |
| 17:36.37 | sebastia1 | while I can connect using psql command the PHP PDO failes to connect |
| 17:37.07 | BitNebula | How can I switch my DM back to gdm from lightdm? |
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| 17:38.37 | teraflops | BitNebula: tried dpkg-reconfigure lightdm? |
| 17:39.12 | wfq | n4dir sorry I don't get you. I got the following info from dpkg and I'd like to know more about it: ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) |
| 17:39.24 | BitNebula | teraflops, I just edited the X11/default-desktop-manager file |
| 17:39.53 | n4dir | wfq: type this at the beginning of an empty line in your irc-client /msg dpkg deb-src sid |
| 17:40.24 | wfq | n4dir thanks! |
| 17:40.34 | teraflops | I do not have a debian istallation with xorg at hand but isn't that file just a symlink? |
| 17:40.44 | n4dir | wfq: to me it sure was confusing, and still is, to be honest :-) |
| 17:40.48 | BitNebula | actually that was not the correct way to do it apparently lol going to try that command |
| 17:41.17 | wfq | n4dir I just feel useless here :) but getting there |
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| 17:41.54 | n4dir | BitNebula: i always try update-alternatives, have to use the web to know how exactly, but am never sure if it helps with the problem at hand |
| 17:42.44 | BitNebula | everything siw roking finally |
| 17:43.43 | BitNebula | thanks for the help everyone :) hope my cuda still works lol |
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| 17:44.03 | teraflops | n4dir: I think dpkg-reconfigure <current-dm> is the preferred method |
| 17:44.12 | BitNebula | yes that is what worked |
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| 17:45.28 | n4dir | teraflops: thanks. i was only shooting an ide. |
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| 17:49.13 | Frosh | dpkg: warning: files list file for package 'ndiff' missing; assuming package has no files currently installed in the latest debian |
| 17:49.14 | dpkg | frosh: That isn't enough detail, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 17:49.37 | wfq | n4dir, another silly question. When you backport you do it by adding a backport source from at least the previous release to your current one, don't you? For example if I am on stretch I should add the one from Jessie no? |
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| 17:50.48 | Brigo | wfq, no, you backport from sid or testing to stable or old-stable. |
| 17:51.09 | n4dir | wfq: i am not really the right person to ask. If i would run stable, i would add the sid src lines and backport from there. I think |
| 17:51.26 | wfq | Sorry :) I understood it all the way around |
| 17:51.42 | Brigo | !ssbp |
| 17:51.43 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 17:53.18 | wfq | Brigo, thanks, nkuttler had let me know before too but I clearly did not understand it |
| 17:54.40 | Brigo | wfq, np |
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| 17:59.24 | wfq | Brigo I am not sure I follow. If this is to backport from stretch deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch-backports main how is the url like for sid? |
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| 18:00.35 | Brigo | wfq, the stretch-backport repo has already backported packages. If you find what you are searching for there, you are a lucky man. If not you have to backport it yourself. |
| 18:01.10 | wfq | Ok, that's why I don't find it. I see the whole picture now |
| 18:01.46 | wfq | Brigo, it is just because apollo13 provided here https://dpaste.de/LBfY/raw what it seems to indicate that is backported |
| 18:01.53 | wfq | hence I got lost |
| 18:02.21 | wfq | Oh I see that says that it can be backported not that it is |
| 18:02.56 | Brigo | wfq, right. |
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| 18:17.45 | beaver | hello, why debian stretch with mate is not translate correctly in french ? |
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| 18:18.33 | beaver | e.g : popup network-manager |
| 18:18.59 | beaver | sorry for my bad english, i'am french |
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| 18:21.24 | jmcnaught | beaver: it could be becaue the translation is incomplete |
| 18:21.51 | jmcnaught | ahh.. sorry for my bad english, i can't type |
| 18:22.52 | beaver | there is a site that lets see? |
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| 18:25.20 | jmcnaught | who see what? |
| 18:25.51 | beaver | what percentage is translated |
| 18:26.36 | jmcnaught | Not that I'm aware of, but maybe the GNOME project keeps track on their site |
| 18:26.44 | rapha | Hi! |
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| 18:27.01 | beaver | https://www.transifex.com/mate/MATE/ ? |
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| 18:28.14 | rapha | I was on vacation and now came back and wanted to apt upgrade my router box first thing. Unfortunately it won't do that. "insserv: Service mountkernfs has to be enabled to start service udev", then "update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header" and then packages initramfs-tools and udev fail to complete installation. Is there a way to fix this? |
| 18:28.35 | beaver | ok jmcnaught |
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| 18:31.50 | jmcnaught | beaver: the nm-applet you are talking about, it is in the source package named network-manager-applet. If you download that source package "apt-get source network-manager-applet" you could look for in it for the po/fr.po file, make a correction, make a patch, then submit the patch with a bug report to http://bugs.debian.org/network-manager-applet. Otherwise you could try submitting the correction upstrea |
| 18:31.56 | jmcnaught | m. Or maybe that transifex website ... |
| 18:31.59 | jmcnaught | ... helps connect translators with projects. |
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| 18:32.37 | jmcnaught | rapha: probably best to show the full output in a paste, and also tell us about your custom init script. |
| 18:32.44 | rapha | jmcnaught: are the comments at the beginning of files in /etc/init.d evaluated or are they just comments? |
| 18:32.57 | beaver | ok, thank you jmcnaught |
| 18:32.58 | rapha | jmcnaught: I don't have any custom init scripts on that machine. It's all stock. |
| 18:33.03 | jmcnaught | rapha: the LSB headers are important |
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| 18:33.17 | rapha | jmcnaught: Aha, so I could disable requirement of mountkernfs there. |
| 18:33.45 | jmcnaught | rapha: from where? what are you editing? |
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| 18:34.19 | rapha | jmcnaught: /etc/init.d/udev. On a hunch. |
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| 18:34.50 | jmcnaught | rapha: keep a backup of the original file so you can revert to it |
| 18:35.19 | rapha | jmcnaught: I backed up the line that I removed. |
| 18:35.58 | rapha | jmcnaught: Also, no need for it really, as I use etckeeper. |
| 18:37.09 | jmcnaught | mountkernfs.service is masked on my system |
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| 18:39.09 | rapha | jmcnaught: I don't know what that means but it seems now that it's not required by udev anymore, the udev upgrade goes through fine., |
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| 18:41.31 | rapha | jmcnaught: Yay! All good again now! :) ... I made a Gist so that the search engines can find the problem and the solution: https://gist.github.com/sixtyfive/5cda2ba67ebb9c2377ac9f177f959a2f |
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| 18:42.23 | jmcnaught | rapha: there is almost definitely something else going on there considering my udev init script is still default and my system upgrades fine |
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| 18:44.25 | rapha | jmcnaught: the best guess I have is that it has something to do with the NTOPNG repository I use. |
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| 18:45.47 | rapha | jmcnaught: but then, some guys over at https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2187724 have the same problem, and NTOPNG does not seem to be present anywhere there. |
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| 18:55.28 | apollo13 | iodev: no |
| 18:56.10 | apollo13 | wfq: no, that is just a command that checks if something is backportable |
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| 19:15.28 | Ruebezahl | I need help, would evryone help me?(German possible) |
| 19:15.34 | jelly | !ask |
| 19:15.34 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 19:15.36 | jelly | !de |
| 19:15.42 | jelly | !de |
| 19:15.42 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 19:20.45 | Ruebezahl | I have a problem with a partition. I am runnig Debian version 9. When I try to boot it stopped. I must del a lot of *.mp3 and *.mp4 in my gabbage(Trash), but how i kann from another partition an a another OS changed it? |
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| 19:21.26 | Ruebezahl | In this moment i work with LM and i hope i can fixed my problem. |
| 19:22.11 | Ruebezahl | with our help |
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| 19:23.23 | jmcnaught | Ruebezahl: does the system refuse to boot because your disk is full? |
| 19:23.48 | Ruebezahl | Of course, my partition have 20G and 20G is in used |
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| 19:24.15 | nvz | how do I change the user transmission-daemon runs as? |
| 19:24.43 | Ruebezahl | I had del mp3 and mp4, but i forggeted that is only trannsferd in trash |
| 19:24.49 | Ruebezahl | @nvz i dont now |
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| 19:25.06 | jmcnaught | nvz: run "systemctl status transmission-daemon" (or whatever the service is called), what file does it say for the Loaded line? |
| 19:25.12 | Ruebezahl | I am a beginner in Linux |
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| 19:25.29 | jmcnaught | Ruebezahl: for GNOME, the trash for a user is in /home/username/.local/share/Trash |
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| 19:25.45 | Ruebezahl | Do not Gnome, i used Cinnamon |
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| 19:26.40 | Ruebezahl | When i go in this part "/home/username/.local/share/Trash" Terminal say me he can not find it |
| 19:26.40 | jmcnaught | Ruebezahl: you could also consider deleting /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb to free up enough space to be able to boot |
| 19:26.57 | jmcnaught | Ruebezahl: you of course changed username for your own username? |
| 19:27.03 | nvz | jmcnaught: you mean /lib/systemd/system/transmission-daemon.service ? |
| 19:27.49 | jmcnaught | nvz: yeah, so you can run "systemctl cat transmission-daemon" to show it along with overrides, look for User= and Group= lines |
| 19:27.52 | Ruebezahl | @jmcnaugth: "/var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb" what i delled with this action? |
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| 19:28.33 | nvz | I either need it to run as user or to create files I can modify, its making files that are 644 debian-transmission:debian-transmission so even with group membership I can't delete or modify them |
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| 19:29.56 | nvz | jmcnaught: I need to use what then, systemctl edit to modify this? |
| 19:30.31 | jmcnaught | nvz: if you run "systemctl edit transmission-daemon" you can add "[Service] \n Group=foobar" (two lines) which makes a file /etc/systemd/system/transmission-daemon.service.d/override.conf |
| 19:30.38 | nvz | this systemd is a pita, it won't let me just use normal linux administration |
| 19:30.47 | jmcnaught | why won't it let you? |
| 19:30.59 | apollo13 | nvz: lol, and what would "normal" be? |
| 19:31.02 | jmcnaught | you don't have to run "systemctl edit" you can just make that fil manully |
| 19:31.03 | nvz | idk because its designed to be a pain in the ass.. |
| 19:31.12 | jmcnaught | you just gotta learn it⦠|
| 19:31.12 | apollo13 | noone forces you to use transmission via systemd either |
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| 19:31.20 | nvz | anytime I've done something manually systemd either ignores it or puts it back |
| 19:31.27 | apollo13 | looooooooooool |
| 19:31.51 | apollo13 | well you cannot just write into arbritrary files managed by a package system and expect it to stay like that |
| 19:32.03 | jmcnaught | for example, once you make an override it will be shown in "systemctl cat foo.service", and also by running "systemd-delta" which is handy |
| 19:32.50 | nvz | what would be handy is if I could just get rid of this crap and admin my system the way I have for over 15 years |
| 19:32.53 | apollo13 | systemd is the first system that allows me to write service files without making me wanting kill someone |
| 19:33.14 | apollo13 | ah one of those people, change is bad because to have to bother? |
| 19:33.28 | apollo13 | boy you must have hated going from gnome 2 to gnome 3 or kde 3 to kde 4 |
| 19:33.41 | nvz | I never did any such thing |
| 19:33.43 | apollo13 | s/to have/you have/ |
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| 19:33.51 | petn-randall | nvz: No one is stopping you from going back to sysv init. |
| 19:34.44 | nvz | but what I have done is understood my init system to have scripts in /etc/init.d/ and links in /etc/rc*.d and they could be managed manually or with rcconf or update-rc.d that has been that way since I started using debian 15 years ago, now none of that works |
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| 19:35.11 | jmcnaught | you can still use update-rc.d on a systemd Debian system |
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| 19:35.30 | petn-randall | nvz: So what's stopping you from using sysv init? |
| 19:35.33 | sypher | Or learn how the new system works. Alas, things do change. |
| 19:35.33 | apollo13 | nvz: sadly that stuff never worked in a sane way |
| 19:35.43 | nvz | yes you can, you can update-rc.d -f remove ssh and then you can reboot to find sshd still running |
| 19:35.47 | apollo13 | even upstart was an improvement |
| 19:36.05 | apollo13 | if that is the case that is a bug in debian |
| 19:36.17 | apollo13 | either way systemctl disable ssh would certainly work |
| 19:36.24 | jmcnaught | systemd is a massive improvement once you learn it. it's the best thing since dependency resolution for packages |
| 19:36.28 | apollo13 | sshd rather |
| 19:36.30 | nvz | yes it did, but all 3 methods I knew already didn't |
| 19:36.48 | apollo13 | we got it, change is bad⦠|
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| 19:37.25 | petn-randall | nvz: Why are you dodging the question and ranting on? |
| 19:37.41 | nvz | I'm being trolled |
| 19:37.58 | nvz | petn-randall: I tried that remove systemd thing dpkg said, things got real hairy |
| 19:38.00 | jmcnaught | well you asked how to do something in systemd, i told you how, then you went into a rant⦠|
| 19:38.27 | floki | hey there. |
| 19:38.28 | apollo13 | nvz: if you want debian without systemd you should install Devuan |
| 19:38.29 | sypher | nvz: So perhaps consider devoting the energy you're currently wasting on complaining into learning systemd? |
| 19:38.36 | apollo13 | it will not be a pleasant experience in stretch |
| 19:39.04 | petn-randall | nvz: What advice did you follow? What error did you get? |
| 19:39.19 | nvz | sypher: I've been trying to learn systemd. and I'm making progress but mostly all I'm learning is every issue I have traces back to systemd somehow |
| 19:40.22 | petn-randall | *plonk* |
| 19:40.57 | sypher | nvz: Being blunt, here, I don't buy that. You've done nothing but complain. |
| 19:41.23 | apollo13 | well systemd is certainly not without problems -- but in the end it generally works better than init.d |
| 19:41.27 | sypher | nvz: And if you're actually serious, I'd say try HARDER. |
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| 19:42.01 | nvz | you're doing nothing but complain at me not liking systemd while I'm trying to address the current issue |
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| 19:42.24 | apollo13 | <nvz> this systemd is a pita, it won't let me just use normal linux administration <-- that is hardly addressing an issue |
| 19:42.39 | jmcnaught | we should all just drop it, or move the discussion to #debian-offtopic if it's not going to be tech support |
| 19:42.48 | petn-randall | jmcnaught++ |
| 19:42.50 | nvz | agreed |
| 19:43.28 | jmcnaught | nvz: if you really want to switch back to sysvinit it is documented how to do it properly in /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian.gz |
| 19:44.15 | jmcnaught | alternatively Mr. Poettering's blog series about systemd is a good intro/supplement to the man pages: https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/#thesystemdforadministratorsblogseries |
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| 19:47.23 | apollo13 | btw does anybody else have shutdown problems with systemd? I have 2 computers where sometimes systemd hangs on shutdown and I cannot sensibly debug it |
| 19:47.35 | apollo13 | or rather every time I enable the debug shell the issue doesn't occur XD |
| 19:47.42 | sypher | apollo13: Only time I ever have that issue is when using gdm as the DM on a system with an nvidia gpu. |
| 19:47.55 | apollo13 | sypher: gdm yes, intel cpu/gpu though |
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| 19:48.14 | apollo13 | it seems as if ⢠a unit is not shutting down properly |
| 19:48.20 | sypher | apollo13: I fixed it by switching to lightdm. |
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| 19:48.53 | apollo13 | Mhm, that is not what I'd call a fix :D |
| 19:49.21 | sypher | That's all I got. |
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| 19:50.00 | apollo13 | Gotta try it, but in the end I'd like to debug it if possible |
| 19:51.00 | jmcnaught | apollo13: do you use persistent journals? "journalctl -n 50 -b -1" for the last 50 lines of the previous boot's journal |
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| 19:51.39 | apollo13 | jmcnaught: gotta check that next time it happens -- but I think that the journal was already down at that point |
| 19:52.03 | apollo13 | which in itself would be weird because disks are still mounted, so no need to turn it off |
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| 19:56.18 | peyam | hi |
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| 19:56.33 | peyam | Where can I install the testing release of debian? |
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| 19:56.44 | peyam | All I found is the unstable and stable one |
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| 19:57.17 | peyam | what is Stretch and buster? |
| 19:57.50 | tw | stretch is current stable, buster is next stable |
| 19:58.26 | peyam | is there very old packages in stretch? |
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| 19:59.05 | tw | It was released last month, so not yet. |
| 19:59.10 | peyam | there are Stable- testing-unstable in order of security updates and bug reporten |
| 19:59.34 | peyam | what does the testing called? is it downloadable? |
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| 20:01.27 | Guest42835 | @peyam you have to change your sources.list to get all testing packaes |
| 20:01.28 | petn-randall | peyam: If you don't know what testing is called, it's best for you to use stable for now. Testing is geared towards people who actively work on Debian. It's buggy most of the time and is not covered by the security team. |
| 20:01.31 | Guest42835 | *packages |
| 20:02.07 | peyam | petn-randall, I'm worried all the old packages. |
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| 20:02.42 | nvz | Stretch just released, there isn't that much newer in debian yet |
| 20:02.50 | petn-randall | peyam: We prefer the term "well tested". |
| 20:03.03 | peyam | yes well-tested |
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| 20:03.37 | nvz | peyam: is there something specific you actually need newer versions of or do you just like living on the edge of software? |
| 20:03.43 | Guest42835 | peyam otherwise you are betatesting software you might not trust |
| 20:04.35 | peyam | nvz, Last time I installed midori on debian (two years ago) I was the oldest looking webbrowser I had) and there were some options that were missing in that release of midori |
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| 20:04.58 | peyam | Can I use newer packages even when I have the stable version of Debian? |
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| 20:05.47 | petn-randall | peyam: Yes, there is stable-backports. |
| 20:06.06 | petn-randall | peyam: Note however that not all browsers have security support in Debian, it's documented in the release notes. |
| 20:06.15 | petn-randall | (mostly webkit based ones, IIRC) |
| 20:06.30 | peyam | thank you |
| 20:08.59 | tw | To be fair, midori from bazaar is still the oldest-looking browser I have and I only have it to bypass the error other browsers throw on 512-bit ssl certs. |
| 20:12.46 | peyam | Does the installer work fine with my wifi? http://paste.ubuntu.com/25106518/ |
| 20:12.56 | peyam | or should I download non-free firmware? |
| 20:13.09 | petn-randall | !firmeware installer |
| 20:13.17 | jelly | !firmware images |
| 20:13.17 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>. |
| 20:13.17 | petn-randall | !firmware installer |
| 20:13.26 | petn-randall | heh, beat me to it. |
| 20:13.35 | petn-randall | peyam: Check out the link above. |
| 20:13.55 | peyam | but would that not work? How do I know the device I have should have non-free firmware? |
| 20:14.05 | jelly | 05:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI ? |
| 20:14.16 | peyam | is it nonfree? |
| 20:14.27 | jelly | show its pci id (lspci -nn will show it) |
| 20:14.42 | peyam | lspci -nn ? |
| 20:14.46 | petn-randall | peyam: Unfortunately most wifi devices require firmware, and most is non-free. |
| 20:14.48 | jelly | yes |
| 20:15.05 | petn-randall | s/is/are/ |
| 20:15.32 | peyam | http://paste.ubuntu.com/25106530/ |
| 20:15.46 | jelly | ,pciid 1814:0301 |
| 20:15.47 | judd | [1814:0301] is 'RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI' from 'Ralink corp.' with kernel module 'rt61pci' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1814:0301 http://wiki.debian.org/rt61pci |
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| 20:16.23 | jelly | yeah, those seem to use non-free firmware-ralink |
| 20:16.51 | jelly | which should be present on "unofficial" netinst images w/ firmware |
| 20:16.58 | peyam | jelly, If i download the netinstaller how would that install the nonfree firmware? the wifi wouldnt work during installation |
| 20:17.24 | peyam | or would it? |
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| 20:17.31 | jelly | peyam, the easiest thing to do is use the netinst image that already has firmware |
| 20:17.47 | peyam | awwkey. it has the firmware. very good. |
| 20:17.50 | jelly | see what dpkg linked, above |
| 20:18.07 | peyam | and when it's installed? would it install all the drivers? or should be done manually? |
| 20:18.19 | jelly | the default netinst does not have firmware you hw needs |
| 20:19.05 | peyam | but the installer will connect to internet with my wifi? |
| 20:19.13 | peyam | the nonfree netinst |
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| 20:19.18 | PipeItToDevNull | peyam, Not if it doesnt have the firmware for your wifi |
| 20:19.20 | jelly | that's the idea |
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| 20:19.53 | peyam | okej very good. and it will install the firmwares I need to make my computer work? |
| 20:19.54 | jelly | PipeItToDevNull, the context is firmware images. |
| 20:20.22 | jelly | peyam, I _think_ so, but if it doesn't, you can install it manually |
| 20:20.47 | peyam | jelly, from the image? it's in there right? |
| 20:20.53 | peyam | sorry for my confusion. |
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| 20:21.09 | peyam | I'm not a linux developer. just a normal user. |
| 20:21.30 | jelly | peyam, not sure, but no, netinst installs most of the stuff from the net |
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| 20:21.42 | peyam | very good. thanks |
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| 20:34.46 | tyranny12 | hi. ive got a laptop with a fresh install of stretch where networkmanager doesn't properly authenticate to my wireless networks. ive gone through troubleshooting - i know that specifically nm is failing to supply the correct passphrase during the wpa handshake. i don't know what it IS supplying. |
| 20:35.00 | tyranny12 | this was tested by connecting manually via wpa_cli - works fine |
| 20:35.12 | tyranny12 | (except for nm clobbering resolv.conf) |
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| 20:35.54 | tyranny12 | so, my question is, last time i dealt with this, eight years ago, the standard advice was to whack nm and install wicd. that was long ago and a different distro. nm is a lot more integrated and polished now. |
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| 20:36.08 | tyranny12 | is that still the advice? i've never had to dive in to modern networkmanager. |
| 20:36.54 | jmcnaught | tyranny12: and you make a paste of your NM logs, "journalctl -u NetworkManager"? |
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| 20:39.10 | tyranny12 | jmcnaught: yea will take a second. irc client is on a different box. |
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| 20:39.23 | tyranny12 | (also, now i learned a new command) |
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| 20:43.08 | tyranny12 | jmcnaught: https://paste.debian.net/976827 |
| 20:43.24 | jmcnaught | tyranny12: thanks. sorry i meant 'can' where i said 'and' |
| 20:43.30 | tyranny12 | yea i figured it out |
| 20:43.53 | tyranny12 | log entries relevant around 107 for a failed auth with NM |
| 20:44.00 | tyranny12 | that'll show my messing with wpa too, later on |
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| 20:44.55 | tyranny12 | (only as much as NM will be confused when i kill it's supplicant to use my own) |
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| 20:46.10 | teraflops | tyranny12: and why would you do such thing? |
| 20:46.42 | tyranny12 | teraflops: that was to try manual authentication via wpa_cli, not as standard practise |
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| 20:46.54 | jmcnaught | don't go killing processes that belong to services, stop the service if you must |
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| 20:47.11 | tyranny12 | fair dues |
| 20:47.33 | tyranny12 | i figured sending a halt vs a kill would tell it to gracefully shut down and remove its lock file, and it did so |
| 20:47.34 | teraflops | tyranny12: then do as jmcnaught pointed |
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| 20:48.30 | jmcnaught | tyranny12: that's a bad practice. use the systemctl command, or the service command if you already know it |
| 20:48.46 | tyranny12 | teraflops: paste is above? As i mentioned, line 107 shows the issue before i messed with wpa_supplicant, i was just calling out that the last few lines of the log were not relevant. i can supply a fresh log if needed |
| 20:48.56 | tyranny12 | jmcnaught: yep, noted for the future. |
| 20:49.16 | jmcnaught | tyranny12: which NM interface are you using? did it prompt to re-enter the WPA-PSK? |
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| 20:50.35 | tyranny12 | jmcnaught: gnome NM interface, if that's what you mean. and yes, multiple times. I also went in to the GUI and verified that passphrase was displayed correctly, then tried connecting from that |
| 20:50.48 | tyranny12 | s/that/there/ |
| 20:51.23 | jmcnaught | tyranny12: tried telling it to forget the network and connecting as if it were a new network? |
| 20:51.25 | teraflops | tyranny12: I'm just pointing out that NM already uses wpa_supplicant, if you dont want to use it via NM, stop NM, then use your own thingy |
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| 20:54.00 | tyranny12 | jmcnaught: just tried again to be sure, but yes, that doesn't work either. worth noting it's showing this behaviour on both of my wireless networks. |
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| 20:55.51 | tyranny12 | teraflops: yea, the old advice used to be to uninstall it and install wicd, was wondering if that was still common |
| 20:56.22 | teraflops | tyranny12: whatever floats your boat, NM is fine if you ask me |
| 20:56.57 | jmcnaught | tyranny12: NM has been reliable for years |
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| 20:57.37 | tyranny12 | jmcnaught: agree, this was eight years ago and it's improved to the point where i don't know how to troubleshoot it for lack of need |
| 20:59.05 | jmcnaught | tyranny12: it's 100% impossible you're entering the wrong password for your wifi? |
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| 20:59.48 | Peyam | hi |
| 20:59.56 | Peyam | so I just installed debian xfce |
| 21:00.04 | Peyam | but the dislays are horrible |
| 21:00.13 | Peyam | I tryi to install xserver-xorg-core |
| 21:00.27 | Peyam | it says it is set to manually installed. |
| 21:00.34 | jmcnaught | Peyam: hi. other people are also talking, so please don't use <enter> in place of punctuation |
| 21:00.51 | Peyam | sory about that |
| 21:01.18 | jmcnaught | it's okay, it's just easier for messages to get lost when they're spread across multiple short lines |
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| 21:01.46 | tyranny12 | jmcnaught: sadly, yes, 100% sure. here's a fresh paste from boot, no mucking about on my behalf with services or killing of processes, with several attempts, after forgetting the network - http://paste.debian.net/976834 |
| 21:01.55 | jmcnaught | Peyam: what is so horrible about the displays? |
| 21:02.48 | Peyam | they look not so good and my dual screen is not recognized in settings |
| 21:04.21 | tyranny12 | hmm, giving NM seems to be in favour, means im not going to look to rip it out yet, will have to google more to see how nm controls wpa_supplicant. |
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| 21:05.33 | teraflops | tyranny12: maybe the AP is using key type your wireless nic does not support, or even a channel |
| 21:07.05 | tyranny12 | teraflops: can connect fine if i use wpa_cli to connect to the network. so im pretty sure something isnt getting passed correctly to wpa_supplicent |
| 21:07.36 | teraflops | oh well |
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| 21:12.52 | teraflops | tyranny12: which debian release are you using? did you search if there's a bug related to your issue? |
| 21:13.32 | teraflops | journalctl -u service name says something? |
| 21:13.39 | tyranny12 | fresh install of stretch. and am doing that now, as well as looking in to NM debug logging. |
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| 21:13.54 | teraflops | tyranny12: also which NM interface? |
| 21:14.04 | teraflops | nmtui, kde/gnome applets? |
| 21:14.17 | tyranny12 | gnome applet, journalctl result here --> http://paste.debian.net/976834 |
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| 21:20.58 | teraflops | tyranny12: no idea, yo do not have a wpa_supplicant instance running there, appart from NM's one? |
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| 21:22.01 | teraflops | you^ |
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| 21:24.48 | tyranny12 | teraflops: nope, just NM. im basically out-of-the-box bare install. funny thing is, ive got a laptop downstairs running stretch on this network no problem. however, there are at least two open bugs with people with similar systems, so im going over those reports now |
| 21:25.01 | tyranny12 | s/systems/symptoms/ |
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| 21:25.56 | tyranny12 | oh nm, i didnt look at the bloody date |
| 21:25.57 | teraflops | tyranny12: are the wireless nics the same? |
| 21:26.22 | tyranny12 | teraflops: no, its most likely that specific. |
| 21:26.51 | tyranny12 | teraflops: laptop downstairs is a laptop, this is a surface pro 1st gen. i knew it would be a pain. |
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| 21:38.42 | un214 | how do I manage which root certificates debian accepts (as opposed to web browser)? |
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| 21:41.44 | rudi_s | un214: /etc/ssl and man update-ca-certificates |
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| 21:42.21 | rudi_s | However the web browsers accept the same (well except maybe chromium which might have a separate storage, not sure). |
| 21:42.39 | un214 | I found the brower's storage long ago |
| 21:43.01 | un214 | but I'm pretty sure that debian's store is still accepting startcom which was bought out by an untrustworthy entity |
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| 21:44.20 | bzed | un214: look into /etc/ssl/certs |
| 21:44.30 | jmcnaught | un214: /usr/share/doc/ca-certificates/README.Debian |
| 21:45.13 | rudi_s | un214: Interesting, looks like it got fixed in Stretch but not yet in Jessie. |
| 21:46.09 | nvz | I'm experiencing slow copy speeds from my debian usb sata drive to an external ntfs drive, slow to the tune of 30kb/s any thoughts on what might be wrong here? |
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| 21:49.48 | bzed | nvz: ntfs maybe? |
| 21:50.05 | un214 | there we go reconfigure the package to get rid of them |
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| 21:51.56 | nvz | bzed: why would ntfs be slowing it down this much? |
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| 22:01.13 | tyranny12 | gahh, wpa_supplicant isnt making the log file i need... |
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| 22:02.21 | tyranny12 | despite telling it to in dbus. |
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| 22:02.29 | domovoy | hi |
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| 22:10.06 | domovoy | i'm trying to setup virt-builder and virt-customize to use the host's apt-cache-ng, any idea what i should put in the guest's source.list? |
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| 22:12.10 | jmcnaught | domovoy: i put 'Acquire::http::Proxy "http://apt-cache:3142/";' into /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02proxy where apt-cache is the hostname of the container running apt-cacher-ng |
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| 22:13.53 | domovoy | jmcnaught> yeah but... what is that hostname? what nameserver does the guest use? if i run dnsmasq on the host, how to i make it listen on the "guests network"? |
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| 22:16.20 | jmcnaught | domovoy: what do you do with the VM image that virt-builder creates? |
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| 22:16.56 | domovoy | jmcnaught> for now, nothing. I'm setting up a template, to crete a bunch of VMs from later |
| 22:17.06 | domovoy | s/crete/create/ |
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| 22:17.36 | domovoy | i'd need apt-cache just to speedup the image creation while working on it |
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| 22:19.08 | Antony | ciao |
| 22:19.13 | Antony | !list |
| 22:19.13 | dpkg | antony: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
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| 22:19.51 | tx | dpkg has language detection? magic. |
| 22:19.51 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, tx |
| 22:19.53 | tx | !list |
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| 22:20.05 | jmcnaught | domovoy: oh, you could try "http_proxy=http://localhost:3142/ virt-builder â¦" |
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| 22:21.07 | domovoy | jmcnaught> that simple? i'll try it |
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| 22:22.15 | nvz | ok I just tried dd bs=1M count=10 and count=100 to this USB NTFS HDD and I got 14MB/s and 7MB/s and yet when I try copy something to or from it to my ext4 USB HDD I'm getting speeds of about 15-30kb/s on average. What is going on here? |
| 22:22.34 | nvz | that is dd if=/dev/zero |
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| 22:23.46 | dvs | nvz, do that tells me that it's the ext4 USB HDD that's slow. |
| 22:24.05 | nvz | yes, its old as dirt, let me try dd on that one |
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| 22:25.38 | nvz | dvs: dd bs=1MB count=100 if=/dev/zero of=/test.file gave me 8.5MB/s |
| 22:25.56 | L3gacy | Anyone have a good link for live Debian and hardening it? |
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| 22:26.29 | nvz | so if I'm getting well over 5MB/s writing to either drive, why am I getting less than 1/100 of a MB/s transferring files either way |
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| 22:27.56 | nvz | I'm trying to copy 28GB of data and at this rate it'd take 11 days, when it should be taking 45-90min tops |
| 22:28.16 | tyranny12 | nvz: can you test read from either source without using the destination drive as the target? |
| 22:28.42 | nvz | tyranny12: only opening something to ram or to another USB device |
| 22:28.59 | nkuttler | my first guess would be it's using the same hardware, and that's crap? |
| 22:30.08 | nvz | yes the hardware is crap but that doesn't really explain it. I wrote SD cards on this machine and it didn't take hours |
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| 22:30.46 | nkuttler | nvz: did you read from one card and write to the other? |
| 22:31.00 | dutchfish | nvz, is this over a lan network? |
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| 22:32.26 | nvz | dutchfish: no its local from one usb sata hdd to another |
| 22:33.00 | dutchfish | nvz, ok |
| 22:33.03 | nvz | dutchfish: hardware is an orangepilite though running stretch |
| 22:33.22 | dutchfish | nvz, are they using the same controller and maybe the same interuptvector? |
| 22:33.29 | nvz | would a dd to /dev/null be sufficient for a basic read test? |
| 22:34.10 | nvz | dutchfish: the NTFS drive is a brand new WD passport, the drive debian is on is an old sata hdd with dongle, they're both on the same USB hub |
| 22:34.41 | dutchfish | nvz, ah so its over usb and also same port |
| 22:35.04 | nvz | dutchfish: yes, you think it would make a difference if they were on different ports? |
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| 22:35.16 | dutchfish | nvz, that can be notoriously slow, something around 5MB/sec or slower |
| 22:35.33 | dutchfish | nvz, yes it would |
| 22:35.37 | nvz | yes I'm getting nowhere near 100kb/s |
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| 22:36.01 | nvz | I was expecting 5-10MB/s not 10-30kb/s |
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| 22:36.31 | dutchfish | nvz, its impossible when you use same interupt ofr that single USB, to have it bidirectional for both devices, thats your problem |
| 22:36.44 | nvz | I can put them on seperate ports, but I'd have to shutdown since one is the OS drive and I only have two ports |
| 22:36.57 | dutchfish | nvz, use different usb ports that would help |
| 22:37.12 | nvz | well actually I can take the keyboard nub out and switch the WD drive to that port |
| 22:37.22 | dutchfish | nvz, preferable on dif. usb host controller ports |
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| 22:37.36 | dutchfish | nvz, (as a test) |
| 22:37.41 | nvz | yes the device only has two ports which is why I got a 4 port hub on one |
| 22:38.02 | nvz | I'll move the wd passport from the hub to the port I have the keyboard on now |
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| 22:38.13 | dutchfish | nvz, 2nd, how good is your hub, is it extarnally powered? |
| 22:38.31 | dutchfish | nvz, ok |
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| 22:41.28 | nvz | dutchfish: the hub isnt but I'm using y cables to power the hdds off their own walwarts |
| 22:42.04 | dutchfish | nvz, well, maybe you created agrounding problem by that (not sure) |
| 22:42.19 | dutchfish | nvz, grounding problem* |
| 22:43.02 | nvz | hmm well I'm getting 1.5MB/s now at least copying 100MB of a file from one to the other using dd |
| 22:43.18 | dutchfish | nvz, still to slow |
| 22:44.24 | nvz | yes but I'm now down to 5hrs to copy 28G instead of 11 days |
| 22:44.27 | nvz | heh |
| 22:44.39 | dutchfish | nvz, i suspect hardware (cables/power cables) |
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| 22:45.03 | nvz | I'm getting expected speeds to each drive individually though |
| 22:45.28 | nvz | I was expecting to top out at about 11-12MB/s given the hardware |
| 22:45.28 | dutchfish | nvz, maybe your computer has only 1 host controller |
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| 22:45.51 | dutchfish | nvz, then speeds go down to below half the normal speed |
| 22:45.52 | tyranny12 | dutchfish: that's what im thinking. |
| 22:46.58 | dutchfish | nvz, anyway, not a Debian problem. I hope you figure it out. Good luck! |
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| 22:48.37 | nvz | http://paste.debian.net/976845/ is the output of lsusb -v |
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| 22:51.51 | nvz | which is showing 4 root hubs for each 1.1 and 2.0 not including the hub plugged in |
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| 22:53.06 | macrocat | the installer lets the user complete installation without installing a bootloader with no warning. that's probably a bad idea. |
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| 22:53.32 | nvz | dutchfish: in any case, it was a good catch on the ports thing, I wouldnt have thought of that as I've used usb storage on external hubs all the time |
| 22:54.04 | nvz | macrocat: it shouldn't it typically asks if you want to install a bootloader on the MBR |
| 22:54.44 | dutchfish | nvz, last but not least, if your copying action is large files, mount them without the flush option, see: /etc/mtab |
| 22:55.01 | macrocat | it does and i left the box where it asks you where you want to put it thinking it'd default to something lol |
| 22:55.41 | macrocat | time for installation attempt number... 8 i think |
| 22:55.48 | macrocat | my usb died :( |
| 22:56.46 | nvz | macrocat: yeah well its like they say, 8th time is the charm |
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| 22:57.25 | nvz | when I first started out it was usually the partitioning that confused me, but debian is one of those systems that tends to be WIDHE compliant |
| 22:58.16 | nvz | its when you get to thinking as you say, that you get into trouble |
| 22:58.26 | nvz | When In Doubt Hit Enter (tm) |
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| 22:59.57 | macrocat | i hit enter and now i'm stuck waiting for hours again :'( |
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| 23:01.13 | nvz | WIDHE doesn't work on rubish setups but it usually works |
| 23:01.39 | nvz | rube-ish even.. rubish sounds too much like rubbish |
| 23:02.19 | Fjorgynn | how long can I run on Jessie? |
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| 23:06.11 | nvz | Fjorgynn: you mean as far as security updates / long term support is concerned? |
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| 23:11.03 | Fjorgynn | nvz: yeah |
| 23:11.12 | Fjorgynn | as of now my DigitalOcean vps runs Jessie |
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| 23:12.19 | jmcnaught | Fjorgynn: regular Debian security support ends for oldstable about a year after stable is released, so for that you have ~11 months. For server support, there is also LTS: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS |
| 23:12.54 | nvz | Fjorgynn: long term support is suppose to be 5 years, but security updates will only be available until about next year |
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| 23:13.44 | Fjorgynn | Then I can wait for a while until I need to upgrade |
| 23:13.49 | Fjorgynn | not like tomorrow |
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| 23:16.08 | jmcnaught | Fjorgynn: check out the release notes for stretch to see if it has anything you want |
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| 23:28.22 | Fjorgynn | yeah, probably but it's a vps with a web server so I must do a lot of backup |
| 23:28.51 | jmcnaught | Fjorgynn: you should be doing those anyways⦠|
| 23:30.15 | Fjorgynn | jmcnaught: yeah :P |
| 23:30.20 | Nik05 | ,help |
| 23:30.21 | judd | (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
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| 23:50.46 | HoloIRCUser1 | My favorite category is Asian. Yours? |
| 23:51.58 | abrotman | HoloIRCUser1: Do you need help with Debian |
| 23:51.59 | abrotman | ? |
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| 23:52.34 | HoloIRCUser1 | Will I be able to download Asians vids on debian too? |
| 23:52.42 | HoloIRCUser1 | Coz on Windows ððððððð |
| 23:52.52 | wwwwwwww | how do I set options for sound modules when resuming from sleep? |
| 23:52.52 | HoloIRCUser1 | You know eh eh |
| 23:53.05 | wwwwwwww | I want: options snd-hda-intel model=dell-headset-multi |
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| 23:53.22 | wwwwwwww | because when the snd-hda-intel module resumes from sleep it causes errors if thats not set |
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| 23:57.10 | jmcnaught | wwwwwwww: have you made a .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/ with that option set? |
| 23:57.33 | wwwwwwww | yes, alsa-base.conf |
| 23:57.46 | wwwwwwww | it works on reboot, but when resuming for sleep it doesnt |
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