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| 00:08.16 | rebekah | petn-randall: any thoughts? |
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| 00:09.10 | petn-randall | rebekah: So you put the ISO on the same disk you want to install to? |
| 00:09.24 | petn-randall | rebekah: I don't think that works, though I've never tried. |
| 00:09.44 | rebekah | petn-randall: no i have two raw disk images, one for the system (about 20G) and one for the installer (about 512M) |
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| 00:10.32 | petn-randall | rebekah: I see. How many disks do you see when you switch to a console and run 'ls -l /dev/sd*'? |
| 00:11.12 | rebekah | petn-randall: none |
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| 00:11.30 | rebekah | which is weird... because it clearly booted >.> |
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| 00:17.17 | petn-randall | rebekah: and 'ls /dev/vd*'? |
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| 00:18.21 | rebekah | petn-randall: none either.. the only disk-like device in /dev/ is /dev/sr0 but that wont mount |
| 00:18.54 | petn-randall | rebekah: very weird. What does the output of 'mount' give you? |
| 00:18.55 | RATS | Ty chanserv |
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| 00:22.30 | rebekah | petn-randall: https://ibb.co/eisDPk (sorry for image instad of text, i am forced to use a web-based vnc client at this point so i cant copy and paste text) |
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| 00:27.07 | petn-randall | rebekah: You could check in the dmesg output what devices were detected during boot. |
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| 00:30.01 | rebekah | petn-randall: https://ibb.co/bUYgAQ <-- looks like just /dev/sr0 (but that wont mount) |
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| 00:35.23 | petn-randall | rebekah: Then I'd double-check that you're passing through the block devices to the VM properly. |
| 00:35.53 | petn-randall | rebekah: There's also a slight chance that the emulatated SATA/PATA/SCSI controller is not known by Debian, but I'd see that as highly unlikely. |
| 00:37.13 | rebekah | petn-randall: yeah... there arent many other settings i have available to me in terms of setting up block devices... i dont see how that could be in issue... though obviously something is |
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| 00:42.15 | kaosu | I asked earlier today and no one seemed to know why Debian's chromium comes packaged with three different extensions, even if you specify the --no-install-recommends flag. It has been gnawing away at me since Debian's chromium package is the only version I have ever seen do this and I would really like to get to the bottom of this. Does anyone happen to have any information about this? |
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| 00:46.23 | petn-randall | kaosu: I'd check the readme/changelog on /usr/share/doc/chromium/ for hints. |
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| 01:02.11 | |subz3r0| | hi |
| 01:02.42 | |subz3r0| | i compiled the newest version of openvpn in debian 9. actually there arent any init scripts to start it at boot |
| 01:02.49 | |subz3r0| | any ideas how i can easily fix that? |
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| 01:16.59 | rebekah | petn-randall: so after a little more poking around... the installer does work with full-virtualization.... im guessing this means that the issue is the debian installer doesnt have the virtio drivers |
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| 01:23.28 | petn-randall | ,v openvpn |
| 01:23.29 | judd | Package: openvpn on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.2.1-8+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 2.2.1-8+deb7u5; wheezy-backports: 2.3.2-7~bpo70+2; jessie-security: 2.3.4-5+deb8u2; jessie: 2.3.4-5+deb8u2; jessie-backports: 2.4.0-6+deb9u1~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.4.0-6+deb9u1; stretch-security: 2.4.0-6+deb9u1; stretch-backports: 2.4.3-4~bpo9+1; sid: 2.4.3-4; buster: 2.4.3-4 |
| 01:23.50 | petn-randall | |subz3r0|: Is there a reason you didn't want to use the openvpn shipped with Debian? |
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| 01:27.47 | |subz3r0| | it's too old and there were several fixes |
| 01:28.05 | |subz3r0| | with debian shipped is v2.4.0. newest is 2.4.3 |
| 01:28.35 | petn-randall | |subz3r0|: Any security fixes get backported, so unless you need a feature from 2.4.3 that's not in 2.4.0 from Debian, there's no reason to update. |
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| 01:56.02 | MarioMey | Hi, there. Because a problem with huge system logs... I have no space in disk. I removed those files (6GB * 3 files)... but Debian still says there's no space. |
| 01:56.58 | MarioMey | Is there any command (like "sync") that tells Debian that, right now, there is free space in disc? |
| 01:57.30 | MarioMey | I ask this, because, I can't press Tab key to autocomplete, because it says: |
| 01:57.43 | MarioMey | ls bash: no se puede crear un fichero temporal para el documento-aquÃ: No queda espacio en el dispositivo |
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| 01:58.12 | MarioMey | I can't / don't want to reboot machine (it would be a solution), because I'm downloading a movie. |
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| 01:58.27 | MarioMey | (by web and it's sloooow...) |
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| 02:03.44 | th0r | MarioMey, how did you remove them? If you deleted from a file manager they may not be gone...just moved to Trash |
| 02:04.47 | petn-randall | MarioMey: What logs were that? If whatever writes that log is still running and holding a file descriptor, it won't release the storage until it's terminated. |
| 02:05.29 | wonderfulmee | disgusting arabs just went away with a takeover on #linux, of all things |
| 02:05.58 | bazhang | !ops | wonderfulmee |
| 02:05.58 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang complains about: | wonderfulmee |
| 02:06.14 | bazhang | wonderfulmee, dont start that here |
| 02:06.31 | wonderfulmee | who had a bright idea to provide sand arabs with op privs |
| 02:07.13 | wonderfulmee | I mean I'd understand #racecarsthatcantintodesert |
| 02:07.25 | wonderfulmee | #linux, ffs. |
| 02:08.28 | wonderfulmee | channel founder that not only one, but two saudi arabians were necessary |
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| 02:08.43 | wonderfulmee | degeneratism |
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| 02:10.51 | peterrooney | MarioMey: df -h may help |
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| 02:12.23 | wonderfulmee | rather lsof |
| 02:12.42 | jrmu | Hurray, I got my AR9271 wifi card working on debian using the open firmware (ath9k_htc). I'm very pleased, thanks for all the support #debian |
| 02:14.05 | MarioMey | peterrooney: df only tells me some information... |
| 02:14.18 | MarioMey | But does nothing of what I need. |
| 02:14.51 | wonderfulmee | MarioMey, lsof -n |grep "filename" |
| 02:15.03 | MarioMey | th0r: I did "sudo rm /var/log/messages". |
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| 02:15.19 | MarioMey | petn-randall: Ohh.... I understand... |
| 02:15.24 | wonderfulmee | why in the world would you do that |
| 02:16.26 | wonderfulmee | reboot and forget about it. I'd say save any work you might have done, but who are we kidding here |
| 02:16.51 | bazhang | wonderfulmee, thats no kind of support |
| 02:17.16 | wonderfulmee | because support is <MarioMey> th0r: I did "sudo rm /var/log/messages". |
| 02:17.37 | wonderfulmee | he obviously doesn't care/want to do lsof. best thing for him to free that FD is to reboot |
| 02:18.11 | wonderfulmee | and stop typing in random commands verbatim |
| 02:18.41 | pacha | so I have no anti-aliasing in text on GTK/QT applications, it affects the menus, text in buttons, etc. anti-aliasing works with everything else, using Xfce and Jessie. how would I fix it? |
| 02:18.50 | MarioMey | I didn't know about lsof. |
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| 02:19.49 | wonderfulmee | pacha: Windows 10's got all the anti-aliasing. |
| 02:19.59 | wonderfulmee | in all kinds and forms. |
| 02:20.26 | wonderfulmee | until then, certainly go ahead and rm /var/log/messages |
| 02:20.45 | wonderfulmee | does it help anyone? Seriously doubt that |
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| 02:22.38 | wonderfulmee | pacha: tell your grandson to buy you a proper Windows 10 laptop. |
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| 02:22.58 | wonderfulmee | doesn't cost that much. |
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| 02:32.00 | wonderfulmee | gentoo doesn't accept me. they're saying they're recompiling chromium and libre office for a reason. |
| 02:32.21 | wonderfulmee | I guess that's a positive outlook at life. |
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| 02:33.27 | wonderfulmee | all those -O6's are really helping with the performance. |
| 02:33.42 | wonderfulmee | that is when you're not compiling random siht. |
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| 02:35.12 | wonderfulmee | which is all the time. I ran a headless gentoo for a year. that was an exercise in humility |
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| 02:35.48 | wonderfulmee | I wonder however long it takes them to compile X |
| 02:36.05 | bazhang | wonderfulmee, this is not your blog |
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| 02:36.22 | wonderfulmee | what do you honestly care. it's downtime |
| 02:36.27 | bazhang | wonderfulmee, it's a support channel for debian' |
| 02:36.43 | wonderfulmee | how many open support tickets are we seeing here |
| 02:36.57 | bazhang | #debian-offtopic is for chatting wonderfulmee NOT here |
| 02:37.37 | wonderfulmee | will relocate. but that's the attitude that scars (no missing "e") people |
| 02:37.55 | bazhang | wonderfulmee, thats nonsense |
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| 02:38.26 | petn-randall | wonderfulmee: Try keeping the signal-to-noise low, thanks. |
| 02:38.51 | wonderfulmee | it's night in most of Europe so you're seeing zero traffic |
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| 02:39.13 | wonderfulmee | I'm not rambling about a lost love |
| 02:39.20 | bazhang | that does not make this channel your bloggin station |
| 02:39.53 | wonderfulmee | I'm not standing in the way of a lost soul that doesn't know how to configure a Cisco VPN from within Debian |
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| 02:40.22 | wonderfulmee | any other channel, people would chill |
| 02:40.42 | petn-randall | wonderfulmee: Do you have a Debian support question? |
| 02:40.52 | wonderfulmee | I'm ready to answer one |
| 02:41.15 | bazhang | petn-randall, he did this for near four hours in another channel, he thinks it's his human right to blog here |
| 02:41.51 | wonderfulmee | nice form |
| 02:42.47 | wonderfulmee | calm down, Pajit, white person going to sleep soon |
| 02:43.03 | bazhang | what! |
| 02:43.13 | petn-randall | wonderfulmee: Please go troll elsewhere |
| 02:43.29 | wonderfulmee | I'm not trolling, rather filling the void |
| 02:43.40 | wonderfulmee | trolling involves other people |
| 02:44.04 | jim | wonderfulmee, filling in a void is not a good idea if you don't have traffic |
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| 02:44.48 | wonderfulmee | well I'm not hurting anyone, but I got your point. |
| 02:45.19 | peterrooney | !off topic |
| 02:45.20 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 02:45.42 | wonderfulmee | gotcha |
| 02:46.14 | jim | it's attantion you'/re after, that's what it is |
| 02:47.12 | wonderfulmee | filling the void, as I said earlier |
| 02:47.50 | bazhang | this is not some blog whitespace |
| 02:47.55 | jim | I dunno for sure, but I would think it's not yours to fill |
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| 02:48.01 | bazhang | there is NO void to be filled, ever |
| 02:48.30 | wonderfulmee | I'm not sure it's anyone's in particular. Still see no harm in that |
| 02:48.49 | TacoGS | I am slowly going blind if that is what you mean as harm, you're not good for my health |
| 02:48.55 | bazhang | wonderfulmee, it is. the channel owners and ops |
| 02:49.15 | wonderfulmee | Pajing, know your place and time. |
| 02:49.33 | bazhang | wonderfulmee, stop with the racist slurs |
| 02:49.44 | jim | you're making them pay attention to you, something you seem to be attracting for a purpose |
| 02:49.54 | peterrooney | wonderfulmee: don't fool yourself. your racist tripe that you started with *has* hurt people. |
| 02:50.05 | bazhang | his entry here was filled with racist slurs |
| 02:50.33 | peterrooney | !ops wonderfulmee offtopic plus slurs |
| 02:50.33 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: peterrooney complains about: wonderfulmee offtopic plus slurs |
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| 02:51.13 | wonderfulmee | look at the conversation we're having |
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| 02:51.39 | jim | anyway I'm not going to respond here to you any more as long as what you say is off topic, if I do, I'm helping you "fill the void" and it's operating kinda like a smurf attack, so this is my final response |
| 02:52.00 | wonderfulmee | jim: that's not the kind of attention random drunk people are looking to attract |
| 02:52.28 | bazhang | wonderfulmee, just leave |
| 02:52.31 | wonderfulmee | what's wrong with "filling the void", anyway? honestly |
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| 02:53.33 | wonderfulmee | everyone's sleeping. supposedly. everyone's free to ask the burning debian questions |
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| 02:53.46 | wonderfulmee | I might actually answer two or three |
| 02:54.08 | wonderfulmee | why the need to keep it sterile. it's not like you're building a FAQ out of it |
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| 02:54.59 | wonderfulmee | I was rambling, but rambling about Gentoo, fhs. In a non-offensive way. |
| 02:55.45 | wonderfulmee | Questions still get to be answered. It's just that it's an absolutely dead period for them. |
| 02:56.02 | bazhang | wonderfulmee> disgusting arabs just went away with a takeover on #linux, of all things |
| 02:56.06 | bazhang | that |
| 02:56.18 | wonderfulmee | that too. |
| 02:56.26 | bazhang | and no void wants that racist garbage, ever |
| 02:56.41 | bazhang | so just leave and now wonderfulmee |
| 02:56.50 | wonderfulmee | thanks, Vihaan. |
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| 03:06.28 | jrmu | Are there any other wifi cards with open firmware that work well with debian? |
| 03:06.29 | jrmu | Besides the AR9271 chips |
| 03:06.54 | bazhang | intel |
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| 03:08.31 | jrmu | bazhang: Can you tell me the exact model number? I will look into it |
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| 03:09.09 | bazhang | jrmu, I have had several,the olderst being the intel 3945 |
| 03:09.26 | bazhang | thats in the kernel at this point |
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| 03:09.58 | bazhang | jrmu, I would say most anything intel, apart from the very newest released |
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| 03:26.49 | jrmu | bazhang: Ah, interesting. Fully supported by debian without any extra installation, just plug in and it instantly works with open firmware? |
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| 03:34.05 | jim | jrmu, one big problem with wifi is it's radio (and software controlled) at its core, and the government(s) have control issues with that, they just have to get their hands in it and not let people do what they want... who knows all the reasons why, could go pretty far up the chain... point is, I don't know that any wireless is out that has open-source firmware. having said that, we can probably find a way to make yours work, with or without open-source |
| 03:34.05 | jim | firmware (having said -that-, if a card is too new, that could be a problem) |
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| 03:38.03 | jrmu | jim: hmm, I see. I didn't realize that government restrictions played a role. I bought a wifi card with the AR9271 chipset, and so far have gotten it to work with the ath9k_htc open firmware for debian. I've been quite pleased with it. |
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| 03:39.00 | jrmu | The card works great for connecting to wifi access points. However, what I really want next is to set up a wifi access point using debian. |
| 03:39.00 | jrmu | to have my access point be a fully open OS |
| 03:39.17 | jim | jrmu, oh, good... so you don't actually have an issue with the card (or even another card) you're using now? |
| 03:40.01 | jrmu | jim: currently, no. I got it all working and have been quite pleased. :) I'm just looking into what cards I might pick up in the future |
| 03:40.51 | jim | oh, ok... maybe some additional info could be waiting on ##hardware and ##networking |
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| 03:51.15 | jrmu | jim: thanks |
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| 03:55.48 | Blendify | Hi, I need some help figuring out which image file to download. I want to mount it to a usb drive and install on an amd64 pc and I also want to use xfce desktop environment can someone point me to the correct download? |
| 03:57.11 | PipeItToDevNull | https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ |
| 03:57.58 | wonderfulmee | okay, I just checked and those Dell monsters cost 685EUR locally |
| 03:58.07 | PipeItToDevNull | but honeslty, anything that says amd64 can install xfce |
| 03:58.10 | wonderfulmee | from a single retailer |
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| 03:58.39 | wonderfulmee | nah, there's 32 of them. that's the average price |
| 03:59.03 | wonderfulmee | it's listed as TFT IPS |
| 03:59.14 | wonderfulmee | I was under the impression that it's either or |
| 04:00.18 | wonderfulmee | 3840x2160 (16:9) |
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| 04:01.07 | wonderfulmee | OP with 3 of them, how do they downscale? |
| 04:01.12 | wonderfulmee | in games |
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| 04:02.17 | wonderfulmee | very much blurring? moderate blurring? soap blurring? |
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| 04:03.26 | jmcnaught | wonderfulmee: this has something to do with Debian? |
| 04:03.38 | wonderfulmee | I don't want to imagine the kind of Dual 1080Ti to run them in their natural resolution |
| 04:04.11 | wonderfulmee | ah, wrong channel, do excuse me |
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| 04:21.48 | jim | jrmu, welcome |
| 04:23.22 | wonderfulmee | and good morning to all and everyone running linux because it's obligatory that everyone says linux unless it's someone who knows somebody then they don't have to say linux so I guess I made it weird enough for everyone. |
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| 04:39.05 | Kel | wonderfulmee: well xD Good morning to you too! |
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| 05:42.00 | jarray52 | When doing a Vanilla upgrade of Debian, one of the packages hung. |
| 05:42.19 | jarray52 | Unpacking openjdk-7-jdk:amd64 (7u131-2.6.9-2~deb8u1) over (7u121-2.6.8-2~deb8u1) ... |
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| 05:51.13 | nkuttler | jarray52: paste.debian.net the command + entire output |
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| 06:22.40 | hgkj434 | hi |
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| 06:54.23 | cujotus | girls love linux guys |
| 06:54.46 | well_laid_lawn | that's optimistic... |
| 06:56.04 | xormor | cujotus, when I was together with my ex, I gave her a Linux computer to browse the web with. I put Linux Mint on it, and put the icon for Firefox on the desktop and told her to double click it to use the Web. She wanted to keep the computer for free, but I wanted it back. It was a desktop computer. I had gotten it from a friend. |
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| 06:56.39 | cujotus | free sex |
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| 07:06.52 | Nawab | why is firefox so fscked up? in my system? |
| 07:07.04 | Nawab | never ever loads up fast enough |
| 07:08.34 | wadadli | How about you ask better questions? |
| 07:08.34 | Nawab | anyways brb |
| 07:08.45 | Nawab | -_- |
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| 07:11.37 | eck | why not |
| 07:11.38 | David_Hedlund | HTML5 is playing 3 times as fast as normal. I have no idea why this is happening, can someone give me a hint? |
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| 07:12.15 | David_Hedlund | The problem occurs in any browser. |
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| 07:32.49 | teroshan | I'm trying to boot my beaglebone with NFS, connected directly to my laptop with an ethernet cable. I managed to make it work after a few issues. However, everytime I boot the board the ethernet link goes down, and I lose the IP I assigned to the eth interface on my laptop. |
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| 07:33.09 | teroshan | The boot on the beaglebone freezes until I manually assign the IP on the laptop eth interface again |
| 07:33.25 | teroshan | Is there any way to make the IP stick after the link goes down? |
| 07:33.50 | teroshan | On the beaglebone side the IP is assigned via the DHCP server that runs on the laptop, so no issues there |
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| 08:34.47 | roger21 | hum ... fresh debian 9 on laptop (before i disable all suspend) how do i wake it up from suspend (to disk it seems)? |
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| 08:42.21 | nkuttler | roger21: open the lid? |
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| 08:44.24 | roger21 | nkuttler, yeah i tried that ... i also kicked the keaybord and the trackpoint and tried a lot of key comibinations |
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| 08:46.10 | roger21 | at least the suspend works (kind of) |
| 08:46.40 | nkuttler | roger21: try the power button? |
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| 08:46.50 | roger21 | (i feel like i never seen a suspend working right out of the box) |
| 08:46.57 | roger21 | yeah i tried too |
| 08:47.16 | nkuttler | roger21: what happens when you push it? |
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| 08:47.27 | nkuttler | does the machine just boot normally? |
| 08:47.30 | roger21 | lol, it depends of the duration of the pushing |
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| 08:47.52 | nkuttler | roger21: that somewhat sounds like the suspend goes wrong |
| 08:47.55 | roger21 | what oh err... good question |
| 08:48.17 | roger21 | it seems to reboot without resuming indeed |
| 08:48.40 | nkuttler | yeah, either suspend doesn't complete, of your resume configuration is incorrect |
| 08:48.53 | nkuttler | the former is probably more likely. if you can enable remote logging do that |
| 08:49.05 | nkuttler | or try to suspend from the command line, and see if there is any useful output |
| 08:49.17 | nkuttler | could be though that the video hardware suspends fine and there is a problem later |
| 08:49.38 | roger21 | hum what's the command? |
| 08:50.14 | nkuttler | not sure really.. i think i use pm-suspend from pm-utils |
| 08:50.22 | roger21 | hmmm |
| 08:50.28 | nkuttler | but with systemd everywhere nowadays.. who knows |
| 08:50.50 | nkuttler | !suspend troubleshooting |
| 08:50.51 | roger21 | damn here it comes ... |
| 08:50.51 | dpkg | A guide for troubleshooting suspend-to-RAM and suspend-to-disk problems is at http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Suspend_to_RAM and http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Suspend_to_disk . The tools it references are available in the Debian <uswsusp> package. See also http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/power/basic-pm-debugging.txt |
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| 09:21.16 | MachineGun | is he one of the queerosexual transfaggits |
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| 09:21.53 | teraflops | MachineGun: wrong channel |
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| 09:25.13 | Sabotender | hi, im having trouble setting up a network printer and printing to it |
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| 09:25.56 | Sabotender | all of my test prints have failed and I am not sure what to do. when I add a printer, it finds the printer on the network immediately but no matter which protocol I choose, it always comes up with an error |
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| 09:26.25 | teraflops | Sabotender: network printer can be many things, mind being a bit more specific? |
| 09:27.31 | Sabotender | I really don't know much about how linux handles printers. Its usually a simple process of adding my printer in windows and osx (both which have been successful) |
| 09:27.43 | Sabotender | you would have to ask a specific question |
| 09:27.50 | teraflops | e.g a built-in network printer has nothing to do with the OS you run, since it's embedded in the printer itself |
| 09:28.36 | teraflops | it's wired? wireless? it has built in network support, is the printer shared by another device? |
| 09:28.47 | Sabotender | my HP laser jet pro has wireless functionality built in, and it is connected to my wireless network |
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| 09:29.39 | Sabotender | I am running Cinnamon on Debian |
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| 09:29.53 | teraflops | Sabotender: oh, wireless, I have no idea |
| 09:29.56 | teraflops | sorry |
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| 09:30.26 | Sabotender | why is that important? its a printer on the network. it would be just the same as if the printer had an ethernet port built in |
| 09:30.47 | teraflops | Sabotender: well, then install cups |
| 09:31.01 | teraflops | what did you do till now? |
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| 09:31.19 | Sabotender | well, I opened print settigns in cinnamon, and pressed 'add printer' |
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| 09:31.52 | teraflops | Sabotender: take a look at https://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting |
| 09:31.54 | Sabotender | pops up the add printer interface, and I clicked on the network printer arrow, which found my printer on the network immediately along with its ip address |
| 09:32.11 | Matan[M] | hi, is there a debian live "no UI" version somewhere? |
| 09:32.26 | Sabotender | I clicked on that, and it gave me several protocols to choose from. I tried all the protocols listed and tried to print the test page, which failed |
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| 09:32.56 | Matan[M] | i have to check an old server with 1GHz cpu and 1mb video memory |
| 09:33.44 | maxcell_ | 1mb video memory |
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| 09:33.49 | maxcell_ | ^^ |
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| 09:34.16 | jelly | Matan[M], live images tend to use a lot of RAM, that's going to be the major bottleneck if less than say 0.5 GB |
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| 09:34.48 | Matan[M] | jelly, seems like it have 1GB of DDR memory |
| 09:35.20 | jelly | Matan[M], if you just want to recover some data off of it, consider using a recovery-oriented live image. grml.org is nice and based on debian. |
| 09:35.25 | sokeman1 | is anyone online? |
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| 09:35.32 | sokeman1 | need some help |
| 09:35.37 | jelly | !ask |
| 09:35.37 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 09:36.07 | sokeman1 | i stupidly ran rf kill and now its hardblocked |
| 09:36.09 | Sabotender | I'm pretty sure that cups is installed |
| 09:36.24 | Sabotender | I typed in 'whereis cups' and got a meaningful response |
| 09:36.40 | jelly | Matan[M], 1GB ought to be enough even for current debian live, but I'd have to read the docs to find out if there's a way to boot it to text mode directly |
| 09:37.30 | jelly | sokeman1, unplug power, unplug battery, leave for 5-10 seconds, plug everything in and power on |
| 09:37.46 | sokeman1 | ok ill try |
| 09:37.47 | Scrutinizer | Sabotender: is it running? Check if you get a response at http://127.0.0.1:631/ |
| 09:37.48 | Matan[M] | jelly, it's an old LaCie Ethernet 1TB nas, it has a windows xp embended and c3vcm3 mobo, i dont care that much about recovery, i got this from my work for free, there are 2x500GB ide drves, I don't even have adapter for that, just want to check few things with LSusb/pci/cpu |
| 09:38.19 | Matan[M] | and installing os on ide drive gonna be pain |
| 09:38.24 | jelly | Matan[M], then just boot grml.org if you can and get your lspci out |
| 09:38.34 | Matan[M] | jelly, thx mate |
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| 09:39.17 | jelly | its bios might be crippled, see if there's a community for those specific NAS somewhere |
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| 09:39.52 | Matan[M] | jelly, its standard phoenix bios |
| 09:39.53 | jelly | there may be special procedures in place needed to boot off usb |
| 09:40.00 | Matan[M] | well i think moded by via |
| 09:40.04 | jelly | that's promising |
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| 09:40.45 | Matan[M] | but in boot section i can see fdd/zip/hdd/cd/lan/usb-fdd/usb-cd/usb-hdd |
| 09:41.15 | Matan[M] | well, i had somewhere zip drive but might be dead after years |
| 09:42.20 | Sabotender | Scrutinizer: absolutely. the web interface pops up |
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| 09:43.14 | Scrutinizer | Sabotender: do you have the apropriate ppd file for your printer? |
| 09:44.18 | Sabotender | the status of the print test page is: stopped "Filter failed" |
| 09:44.37 | Sabotender | Scrutinizer: hmm I am not sure. how do I check for this? |
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| 09:45.05 | Sabotender | the printer is shown to be added in the CUPS web interface, and I tried to print a test page from there |
| 09:45.13 | teraflops | Sabotender: did you take a look at the link I posted? |
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| 09:46.03 | Sabotender | teraflops: yes. I saw that link during my own googling for the answer before I began asking questions on IRC |
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| 09:46.39 | teraflops | did you install any hp-related package? |
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| 09:47.12 | Sabotender | it appears the driver is already included on my system |
| 09:47.12 | teraflops | also do you know if your printer is supported or has issues under debian/linux in general? |
| 09:47.46 | teraflops | because printers can be a pain in the ass, hp has good support though |
| 09:47.51 | Sabotender | according to the CUPS web tool: Driver:HP LaserJet Pro MFP m127fw, hpcups 3.16.11, requires proprietary plugin (color) |
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| 09:48.36 | Scrutinizer | "requires proprietary plugin" should catch your eye... ;) |
| 09:48.40 | teraflops | hehe |
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| 09:48.48 | Sabotender | Connection:hp:/net/HP_LaserJet_Pro_MFP_M127fw?ip=10.0.0.15 |
| 09:49.02 | teraflops | I bet googling that very message spits useful info |
| 09:49.19 | Sabotender | Scrutinizer: I saw that. I figured it was just letting me know that the plugin used is proprietary. |
| 09:49.37 | Scrutinizer | Sabotender: Did you install the hplip package? |
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| 09:50.44 | cujotus | sabotager :) |
| 09:51.04 | cujotus | so whats up otherwise? |
| 09:51.15 | Sabotender | Scrutinizer: looks like it is already installed |
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| 09:51.34 | pingfloyd | Sabotender: one thing to do is read up on your printer here http://www.openprinting.org/printers |
| 09:51.49 | pingfloyd | Sabotender: but for installing needed things, go through debian itself as much as you can |
| 09:53.37 | jelly | Matan[M], that looks rather dated... usb-hdd is probably the right thing |
| 09:54.17 | jelly | followed by usb-cd if usb-hdd fails |
| 09:54.53 | Sabotender | dpkg -l hplip produces: ii hplip 3.16.11+repa i386 HP Linux Printing and Imaging Sys |
| 09:54.54 | dpkg | No packages found matching hplip produces: ii hplip 3.16.11+repa i386 HP Linux Printing and Imaging Sys |
| 09:55.19 | Sabotender | so its definitely installed, per: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/installtree.html |
| 09:55.32 | Matan[M] | jelly, hmm... its not booting up, set up all 1st/2nd/3rd for all usb-XXX devices, stuck in post on Verifying DMI Pool Data :| it's 32GB usb prepared in rufus, it might be that |
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| 09:55.46 | Matan[M] | 32GB is a bit an overkill |
| 09:55.47 | jelly | cujotus, are you a bot? |
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| 09:56.45 | jelly | Matan[M], write the grml or debian live usb image directly to stick, avoid rufus or unetbootin |
| 09:57.08 | jelly | of course you will lose any other data already on it, that way |
| 09:57.23 | jelly | so something like cp blah.iso /dev/sdf |
| 09:57.34 | jelly | on windows, use win32diskimager |
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| 09:58.08 | cujotus | jelly: atleast I would like jetpack |
| 09:58.11 | Matan[M] | jelly, got them, ill have a look |
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| 09:58.33 | jelly | I'm taking that as a "yes" |
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| 09:59.03 | jelly | <jelly> cujotus, are you a bot? |
| 09:59.03 | jelly | <cujotus> jelly: atleast I would like jetpack |
| 09:59.06 | jelly | oops |
| 09:59.27 | bazhang | jelly'a BOT! |
| 09:59.29 | teraflops | xD |
| 10:01.38 | Sabotender | pingfloyd: I really looked though that list and my printer is not even there |
| 10:01.51 | hexhaxtron | Can someone help me reset a root password in MariaDB? |
| 10:02.11 | jelly | !ifmrp |
| 10:02.12 | dpkg | If you've forgotten the <MySQL> root password, /etc/init.d/mysql stop; mysqld --skip-grant-tables; mysql -u root; use mysql; UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mynewpassword') WHERE User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; C-d; stop mysqld; /etc/init.d/mysql start See also http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/resetting-permissions.html, <mysql initial password>. |
| 10:02.33 | jelly | hexhaxtron, probably still the same as ^^ |
| 10:03.10 | jelly | make sure mysqld process is really dead after the initial stopping of the service |
| 10:03.41 | Matan[M] | jelly, yup, its working with win32DI |
| 10:03.50 | jelly | \o/ |
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| 10:04.00 | Matan[M] | jelly, thank you |
| 10:04.11 | jelly | you're welcome |
| 10:04.50 | Matan[M] | im wonder now what the hell i can do with this nas/server |
| 10:06.03 | Matan[M] | 2x500gb ide drives, max 4x3,5 drives in case, but this crap have onboard 10/100 ethenet card + 1free pci slot, so raid sata card or 10/100/1000 ethernet card :| |
| 10:07.02 | Matan[M] | well... ill finish making spec of it and photos |
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| 10:10.30 | Matan[M] | jelly, well i was lucky as hell with pickin up usb port for usb |
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| 10:23.36 | hexhaxtron | jelly: can you help with this? https://paste.debian.net/978873/ |
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| 10:34.19 | jelly | dpkg, tell hexhaxtron about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 10:34.32 | sokeman1 | hi can someone help im hardblocked i stupidly rfkill all |
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| 10:35.09 | jelly | sokeman1, power cycle did not make a difference? |
| 10:35.15 | sokeman1 | nope |
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| 10:36.13 | jelly | and you don't have an actual hardware switch somewhere? |
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| 10:36.33 | jelly | sokeman1, what about a Fn-combo somewhere? |
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| 10:37.03 | sokeman1 | ive only got a flight mode button and it does nothing |
| 10:37.05 | jelly | if there's a Fn-Something for wireless, press it once, then see what rfkill says again |
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| 10:37.12 | teraflops | sokeman1: also are you using a DE? as in gnome or similar? they have witches for wireless/bt |
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| 10:37.26 | jelly | ,v galera-3 |
| 10:37.27 | judd | Package: galera-3 on amd64 -- stretch: 25.3.19-2; sid: 25.3.20-1; buster: 25.3.20-1 |
| 10:37.28 | sokeman1 | im using kali |
| 10:37.33 | jelly | !kali |
| 10:37.34 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 10:37.43 | teraflops | ^^ |
| 10:38.00 | hexhaxtron | jelly: this? https://paste.debian.net/978875/ |
| 10:38.06 | jelly | sokeman1, ask in the right place, we don't know if or what kali changed anything |
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| 10:38.31 | sokeman1 | there is apparently a way to do it, but i need to transfer a file from win to kali and im not sure how to do it |
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| 10:39.11 | jelly | hexhaxtron, apt-cache policy for all the packages mentioned anywhere, that includes [...] galera-3{a} gawk{a} mariadb-server mariadb-server-10.1{a} mariadb-server-core-10.1{a} socat{a} |
| 10:39.17 | jelly | without {a} |
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| 10:40.07 | BluesKaj | sokeman1, read the dpkg Kali post above |
| 10:40.38 | hexhaxtron | jelly: https://paste.debian.net/978877/ |
| 10:41.22 | jelly | okay, so that all looks normal |
| 10:41.40 | jelly | hexhaxtron, is there an old mysqld process running somewhere? |
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| 10:42.05 | hexhaxtron | jelly: with ps aux|grep mysql? |
| 10:42.19 | jelly | that's one of the ways, sure |
| 10:42.28 | hexhaxtron | jelly: no, nothing. |
| 10:42.40 | jelly | grep mysqld /var/log/daemon.log |
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| 10:44.00 | hexhaxtron | jelly: https://paste.debian.net/978878/ |
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| 10:46.10 | jelly | hexhaxtron, you got some very unusual errors at around 11:20. What did you try to do before this installation? |
| 10:46.13 | armin | so i was just reading a blog post from lennart poettering in 2010 where he claims that locking under POSIX would be "broken". http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/locking.html - the part i stumbled upon that confuses me is this here: "The worst part however is that POSIX locks are automatically released if a process calls close() on any (!) of its open file descriptors for that file." - is that still the case |
| 10:46.14 | armin | nowadays? |
| 10:47.36 | hexhaxtron | jelly: MariaDB was working properly but I couldn't change the root password so I deleted /etc/mysql/ and did aptitude purge mariadb-server and aptitude install mariadb-server... |
| 10:47.44 | jelly | armin, uh, try it and see? I'm not sure this is a Debian-specific issue |
| 10:48.25 | jelly | hexhaxtron, you did not purge all the packages that bring /etc/mysql, then. Do you have any data in in the database worth keeping? |
| 10:48.35 | hexhaxtron | jelly: no. |
| 10:48.45 | jelly | hexhaxtron, dpkg -S /etc/mysql |
| 10:48.54 | armin | jelly: fair enough. :) |
| 10:49.06 | hexhaxtron | jelly: mariadb-server-10.1: /etc/mysql |
| 10:49.12 | jelly | hexhaxtron, see if you can purge all the server and probably common packages there. |
| 10:49.16 | jelly | just that one? |
| 10:49.21 | hexhaxtron | jelly: yes. |
| 10:50.10 | jelly | hexhaxtron, should be something more like: mariadb-common, mariadb-client-10.1, mariadb-server-10.1, mysql-common: /etc/mysql |
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| 10:50.41 | hexhaxtron | jelly: I don't know... I only have that line. |
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| 10:51.24 | Matan[M] | do you have any experience with CF-IDE adapters? |
| 10:51.44 | Matan[M] | is it worth to use like 4GB CF card for server? |
| 10:51.52 | hexhaxtron | jelly: should I purge all the ones you said? |
| 10:52.07 | Matan[M] | or it will kill card with read/write cycles? |
| 10:53.45 | J4ck_The_Stripp3 | Hi Guys, if got a question maybe someone can help me there. If i install Ubuntu or Mint on my Macbook everything works fine, but i would love to use Debian. Is there a debian version with all the driver inside? so that i can use my touchpad like on mint and ubuntu? or a way to install those drivers manually |
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| 10:56.22 | hexhaxtron | jelly? |
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| 10:59.09 | BluesKaj | J4ck_The_Stripp3, I have debian stretch on my Lenovo G500 laptop and the touchpad works fine with the default driver |
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| 11:00.20 | BluesKaj | J4ck_The_Stripp3, but debian on mac may be a different story |
| 11:01.19 | J4ck_The_Stripp3 | Its something with the mac i think. Im just wondering because on mint an ubuntu everything works fine. are there different drivers on mint and ubuntu then on debian stretch? |
| 11:02.44 | BluesKaj | dunno, have you looked here ? https://wiki.debian.org/MacBook |
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| 11:03.54 | jelly | hexhaxtron, I'd try that yes |
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| 11:04.27 | hexhaxtron | jelly: I purged everything and then installed everything but I still got the mariadb-server problem... |
| 11:05.22 | J4ck_The_Stripp3 | BluesKaj , thanks i will check this out! |
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| 11:05.49 | akkadian | hi |
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| 11:06.29 | jelly | hexhaxtron, interesting. You could try purging again, wiping all files from /var/lib/mysql/ (but not the directory itself!) and try to install anew |
| 11:07.03 | blink | hello |
| 11:08.02 | akkadian | i have a problem i dont know how to manage the installation of debian |
| 11:08.22 | hexhaxtron | jelly: same thing with mariadb-server... |
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| 11:10.27 | SuperTramp83 | J4ck_The_Stripp3, is the package xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed? |
| 11:11.08 | J4ck_The_Stripp3 | do you mean default? or if i installed it |
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| 11:11.44 | SuperTramp83 | J4ck_The_Stripp3, if it is not installed (by default or whatever) install it and reboot |
| 11:12.19 | akkadian | how large is the full debian installer guys ? |
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| 11:12.37 | akkadian | i got one with 4.4 GB |
| 11:13.40 | J4ck_The_Stripp3 | okey thanks! someone told me to use non-free images because there should be more drivers, maybe im checking this too! |
| 11:14.29 | hexhaxtron | jelly? Yawn! :) |
| 11:14.58 | SuperTramp83 | J4ck_The_Stripp3, I never heard of a case in which a touchpad required non-free firmware or drivers |
| 11:15.27 | SuperTramp83 | Usually it is one of the two or both: GPU and wifi adapter |
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| 11:16.14 | J4ck_The_Stripp3 | SuperTramp83 , its not only the touchpad. Now my problem are network card drivers, if i plug in my lan cable in my macbook and install debian netinstaller, it wont find my driver |
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| 11:17.20 | J4ck_The_Stripp3 | thats the bigger problem :D |
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| 11:18.20 | SuperTramp83 | J4ck_The_Stripp3, yeah, some hardware just sucks :/ |
| 11:18.35 | J4ck_The_Stripp3 | hahah thats my last macbook!!! |
| 11:18.42 | SuperTramp83 | :) |
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| 11:21.16 | jelly | hexhaxtron, I'm mostly afk, someone else can probably figure out why your mariadb-server starts and just stops |
| 11:21.46 | jelly | if you want my undivided attention on a Sunday, that's $100/hr |
| 11:22.07 | J4ck_The_Stripp3 | :D |
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| 11:22.33 | BluesKaj | yeah , my sister and my duaghter were both charmed by the mac cool factor untill they tried to add non defualt apps etc and had HW problems , that's when the charm went out he window, difficult and expensive to repair and costly to expand the software |
| 11:22.56 | jrmu | jelly: I find it interesting how developers alternate between free support and $100/hr |
| 11:23.38 | jrmu | jelly: I appreciate the help anyway, just found it peculiar |
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| 11:24.53 | SuperTramp83 | jrmu, it's just jelly, He talks about money all the time. |
| 11:25.01 | jelly | jrmu, people providing help in here, and most debian developers, are volunteers, providing some of their time and knowledge for free. |
| 11:25.02 | J4ck_The_Stripp3 | BluesKaj , mac was the reason why i start to play with terminals and commands so it was much better for me then windows :D and the hardware is soo fast! but yes you are right, specially when you got something broken its a pain in the ass |
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| 11:26.36 | BluesKaj | 16 steps to change a HDD in an IMac $100 for labour another 100 for the drive |
| 11:26.40 | jrmu | jelly: yeah, I understand, I appreciate the support you provide for free. |
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| 11:28.35 | BluesKaj | J4ck_The_Stripp3,, Debian to the rescue :-) |
| 11:28.42 | jrmu | jelly: I just think it's interesting that sometimes it's free. With Apple it's always $100/hr to speak to their devs :) |
| 11:29.03 | J4ck_The_Stripp3 | :D |
| 11:29.13 | jelly | SuperTramp83, not all the time, just when some has expectations of personal one on one help :-) |
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| 11:30.09 | jelly | hexhaxtron, it might be nice to see what happened in daemon.log after purging and wiping contents of /var/lib/mysql/ |
| 11:32.23 | jelly | far as I know that ought to be enough to trigger the initial installation stuff for any mysqld |
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| 12:50.01 | Cl0udN9ne | good evening |
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| 13:00.49 | dvs | Al3xG0, is it the first item in each line? |
| 13:00.55 | themill | Al3xG0: -d |
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| 13:04.47 | themill | Have you found the man page? |
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| 15:01.31 | m_ | Hello. How can i install a driver for my AMD M260 graphics? Right now it seems only the intel igpu is working in my notebook. When i start a game in steam it tells me that i need OpenGL 4.1 |
| 15:01.51 | m_ | xrandr --listproviders |
| 15:01.51 | m_ | Providers: number : 1 |
| 15:01.51 | m_ | Provider 0: id: 0x45 cap: 0xb, Source Output, Sink Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 3 outputs: 3 associated providers: 0 name:Intel |
| 15:02.21 | m_ | So i guess there's no driver for my M260 graphics installed |
| 15:03.23 | DoctorD90 | jmcnaught: hello! system is installed. but it wont boot. again xD |
| 15:03.51 | DoctorD90 | jmcnaught: i boot in the system from the grub command line of installer usb. |
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| 15:04.49 | DoctorD90 | once booted up, I runned also update-grub, and grub-install with the rigth command (i think), but nothing. at boot it won't boot in the system installed |
| 15:05.21 | DoctorD90 | any tip before I will reinstall amd choosing to install grub for buggy efi devices? |
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| 15:11.56 | m_ | lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 15:11.56 | m_ | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0a16] (rev 0b) |
| 15:12.00 | m_ | Any tips? |
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| 15:16.49 | towo` | m_, lspci | egrep -i "vga|display|3d" |
| 15:17.16 | hexhaxtron | towo`: hi! Do you know how to fix this? https://paste.debian.net/978926/ |
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| 15:17.43 | m_ | towo`: lspci | egrep -i "vga|display|3d" |
| 15:17.43 | m_ | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b) |
| 15:17.43 | m_ | 08:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Topaz XT [Radeon R7 M260/M265 / M340/M360 / M440/M445] (rev ff) |
| 15:18.00 | m_ | hmm, it seems to be installed? |
| 15:18.35 | towo` | lspci has nothing to do with installed or not installed drivers |
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| 15:19.04 | m_ | ok, but at least it's recognised |
| 15:19.18 | towo` | and the card should be usable with dri offloading |
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| 15:20.14 | towo` | but with steam, you need at least even the 32bit mesa-glx-libs installed, since steam is 32bit only |
| 15:21.51 | towo` | but dri offloading only works, if xrandr --listproviders lists all outputs |
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| 15:23.06 | m_ | it seems all of this packages are installed. |
| 15:23.28 | m_ | but xrandr shows only the intel one |
| 15:24.18 | towo` | firmware-amd-graphics is installed? |
| 15:24.27 | m_ | yes |
| 15:24.44 | fxb | Hello, I tried to import a key file into Software Update sources after installing 'dirmng' and I get 'GPG error' for official debian repos when running apt update. I don't know how to fix this. |
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| 15:29.14 | veek | how do you select a range of pages in gv; postscript printing |
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| 15:32.36 | m_ | but thanks towo` for your help |
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| 15:58.07 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 15:58.08 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 15:58.15 | petn-randall | fxb: Can you provide all the info above? ^^^ |
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| 15:58.25 | cerulean | yo, how do I deapply a patch from a debian package? |
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| 15:58.51 | petn-randall | cerulean: What package, and what patch? |
| 15:58.53 | fxb | sure, give me a second |
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| 15:59.57 | cerulean | libbson1.0, use_system_yajl.patc |
| 16:00.19 | cerulean | hfor more info: https://github.com/crystal-lang/crystal/issues/1269 |
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| 16:03.38 | fxb | petn-randall, https://pastebin.com/QUAZqzjz |
| 16:04.06 | petn-randall | !rebuild from source |
| 16:04.18 | petn-randall | pokes dpkg. |
| 16:04.34 | petn-randall | !rebuild from debian source |
| 16:04.35 | dpkg | 1) Add a <deb-src> line for your current release to your sources.list 2) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; aptitude -R build-dep packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5) dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us 6) as root, dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules>, <nocheck>, <nostrip>, <apt-get source>. |
| 16:04.40 | petn-randall | cerulean: ^^^ |
| 16:05.14 | petn-randall | cerulean: just before step 5, go to debian/patches/series and remove the line with the patch in question. |
| 16:06.42 | petn-randall | fxb: Did you recently update from jessie to stretch? |
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| 16:07.13 | fxb | petn-randall, no I installed strech on empty partition |
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| 16:09.15 | cerulean | thanks petn-randall. where do I get the deb-src line? |
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| 16:09.41 | petn-randall | !deb-src |
| 16:09.42 | dpkg | You can have apt download the <source package> from which a <binary package> was compiled using a "deb-src" line in your <sources.list>. A line like "deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian sid main" does NOT make any binary packages available. Ask me about <source> <package recompile> <ssb>; make sure the "build-essential" package is installed. You might need linux-headers-$(uname -r) package installed. |
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| 16:10.03 | cerulean | its ubuntu xenial apparently |
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| 16:10.27 | cerulean | oh ok |
| 16:10.40 | petn-randall | fxb: Just copy the deb line in /etc/apt/sources.list, and then change the "deb" at the beginning to "deb-src". |
| 16:11.06 | petn-randall | Err, sorry, fxb, that was meant for cerulean. ^^^ |
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| 16:11.26 | petn-randall | cerulean: Are you running Ubuntu? |
| 16:11.27 | fxb | petn-randall, ok :) |
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| 16:11.35 | cerulean | yes |
| 16:11.44 | cerulean | i had to switch from debian 9 because the openSSL was too new |
| 16:11.51 | cerulean | im from the crystal-lang/amber project |
| 16:11.58 | petn-randall | fxb: How did you prepare the installation image, since it seems like none of the archive keys were installed. |
| 16:12.27 | petn-randall | cerulean: Ah, ok. Then you have to continue in #ubuntu, since this is only for Debian support in here (no forks). |
| 16:12.43 | cerulean | oh i see |
| 16:12.47 | cerulean | however |
| 16:12.50 | cerulean | i only have an apt issue |
| 16:12.56 | cerulean | has apt change significantly |
| 16:13.07 | fxb | petn-randall, Everything worked for a while after installing strech, the problem started happening today after I tried adding a ppa. I can describe the steps I took if you want |
| 16:13.32 | cerulean | i think i'll still use your instructions |
| 16:13.33 | cerulean | thanks |
| 16:13.54 | petn-randall | fxb: Ah, everything is gone out of the window if you add PPAs, they're for Ubuntu only. |
| 16:14.06 | petn-randall | fxb: You probably killed the keyring somehow. |
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| 16:15.45 | petn-randall | fxb: Can you recover the keyring from backups? |
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| 16:16.42 | fxb | petn-randall, unless I have some local backups automatically generated by debian, unfortunately no |
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| 16:18.06 | mxh- | hi, netinstall user here, can't get USB sticks to automount. installed the "usbmount" package but it's not mounting automatically. |
| 16:18.14 | mxh- | no service to enable either |
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| 16:26.43 | cerulean | petn-randall: I am now able to build libbson without the patch. But you were correct there was some Ubuntu specific stuff, but only the names of things like the OS and the repo name |
| 16:26.49 | cerulean | Thanks :D |
| 16:27.21 | cerulean | do I need to remove the old libbson before I install my new package? |
| 16:27.54 | petn-randall | cerulean: You should be able to install over it fine. |
| 16:28.01 | cerulean | kool thx |
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| 16:30.16 | n-iCe | Should I worry? I came from other distro to Debian, and notice that Debian keeps the laptop fan working all the time... |
| 16:30.43 | petn-randall | n-iCe: I worry when it *stops* working. |
| 16:30.47 | petn-randall | *I'd |
| 16:31.24 | n-iCe | but, is a lot of noise |
| 16:31.29 | n-iCe | which never happened in other distro |
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| 16:32.06 | n-iCe | %cpu seems ok |
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| 16:56.08 | petn-randall | n-iCe: I guess the powermanagement of the fans are not set up. |
| 16:58.05 | fxb | https://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html <- will this be of any help to me (with the right commands) or should I reinstall my system? |
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| 17:00.49 | n-iCe | petn-randall: how do I check that |
| 17:01.28 | mxh- | anyone on Firefox 55? :) |
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| 17:10.34 | aura | is there a way to get the terminal working in the file browser like in dolphin? |
| 17:11.31 | mxh- | aura: are you on gnome? |
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| 17:12.16 | aura | cinnamon |
| 17:12.32 | mxh- | aura: what file manager? |
| 17:12.42 | aura | default one |
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| 17:13.18 | mxh- | aura: so Nemo. check this out, or switch back to dolphin :) https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo-extensions/tree/master/nemo-terminal |
| 17:15.34 | aura | is it available in the repos? |
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| 17:17.55 | mxh- | aura: aura unfortunately not |
| 17:18.31 | aura | ok |
| 17:18.37 | aura | thanks |
| 17:18.39 | mxh- | aura: to check stuff like that, `$ apt search nemo` |
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| 17:21.28 | badargo | hi. when i close my notebook lid, sometimes i cant get it back from this black screen and have to reboot it. what can i do to fix this? is there a setting in settings that configure the lid or something? |
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| 17:24.51 | badargo | actually |
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| 17:25.02 | badargo | it happens every time it suspends |
| 17:25.11 | badargo | so is there a way to fix this suspensio bug? |
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| 17:34.33 | n-iCe | hi |
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| 17:37.13 | aura | hi N-iCe |
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| 17:39.11 | n-iCe | aura: how are you? |
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| 17:40.45 | aura | fine |
| 17:40.47 | aura | you? |
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| 17:41.58 | mxh- | gotta say unstable is pretty damn stable for not being stable |
| 17:42.15 | mxh- | 0 issues in a year now |
| 17:42.56 | teclo- | well quite many people run unstable on their desktop |
| 17:43.10 | lexruee | mixh-: same experience :-). so far i only encountered an audio/suspend issue on gnome 3 |
| 17:43.26 | mxh- | i run it on my main workstation, but with an ubuntu usb in case of emergency ;) |
| 17:43.29 | dontknow | stable is love |
| 17:43.37 | n-iCe | aura: alright |
| 17:43.54 | mxh- | dontknow: had to backport too much, web dev is not exactly "stable friendly" |
| 17:44.19 | teraflops | mxh-: I dont think recommending sid is a good idea |
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| 17:45.04 | mxh- | teraflops: oh that wasn't my intention. just giving praise. but imo if you go and get sid on your own you got nobody to blame ;) |
| 17:45.20 | mxh- | not like there isn't a huge warning text |
| 17:45.49 | teraflops | mxh-: yeah, just saying, I'm sure you can deal with sid pretty well |
| 17:45.56 | mxh- | teraflops: you're right :) |
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| 17:46.33 | mxh- | teraflops: ...in not recommending it i mean lol |
| 17:46.41 | teraflops | heh, np |
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| 17:57.46 | oo_miguel | can I somehow allow downloading of my non-free wifi drivers during debian netinstall |
| 17:57.53 | oo_miguel | I need iwlwifi |
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| 17:58.12 | oo_miguel | or do I have to download them by hand before and put on my usb stick which I use for installation |
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| 18:16.41 | carmelo11 | Hi guys |
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| 18:18.06 | carmelo11 | While Debian 8 was working wifi properly ... |
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| 18:19.01 | carmelo11 | I installed from scratch debian 9.1 i386 netinst |
| 18:19.19 | Wulf | Hello. Where can I get a font (should work in e.g. firefox) so that 𤮠is displayed correctly? |
| 18:19.43 | carmelo11 | The wifi card is recognized but the wlan network does not connect |
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| 18:20.33 | carmelo11 | the wifi card is Intel WiFi Link 5300 |
| 18:21.58 | LtL | oo_miguel: i believe if you put the drivers in a /firmware directory on the stick, the install will find it |
| 18:21.59 | towo` | carmelo11, install firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 18:22.41 | carmelo11 | towo I just installed that one |
| 18:22.52 | Wulf | Is there any way to check what fonts contain which unicode chars? |
| 18:23.06 | towo` | carmelo11, and you have rebootet after installing the firmware? |
| 18:23.25 | carmelo11 | towo` yes |
| 18:23.36 | towo` | carmelo11, dmesg | grep -i firmw |
| 18:24.12 | carmelo11 | sudo dmesg | grep iwlwifi |
| 18:24.24 | carmelo11 | firmware: direct-loading firmware iwlwifi-5000-5.ucode |
| 18:24.37 | carmelo11 | loaded firmware version 8.83.5.1 build 33692 op_mode iwldvm |
| 18:24.57 | carmelo11 | can't disable ASPM; OS doesn't have ASPM control |
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| 18:26.34 | Wulf | never mind, found one. ttf-unifont can display ð¤®. |
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| 18:30.31 | carmelo11 | Before I open a bug report I would do some troubleshooting |
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| 18:34.52 | HSorgYves | Morning, I have seen and read that Debian 9 has a new naming schema for network interfaces which need to be migrated to before Debian 10; the suggestions in /usr/share/doc/udev/README.Debian.gz don't help to migrate on a system where you don't have access to the console... any suggestions? |
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| 18:39.12 | LtL | carmelo11: try this kernel parameter, 'pcie_aspm=force' on boot line |
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| 18:44.33 | carmelo11 | LtL what is aspm? |
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| 18:45.11 | LtL | carmelo11: Active State Power Management |
| 18:45.35 | LtL | carmelo11: look in your BIOS for it first |
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| 18:56.01 | carmelo11 | I have run: wpa_supplicant -i wlp4s0 -c wpa.conf -D iwlwifi |
| 18:56.19 | carmelo11 | Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant |
| 18:56.27 | carmelo11 | wlp4s0: Unsupported driver 'iwlwifi' |
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| 18:58.51 | LtL | carmelo11: have you installed linux-firmware package? |
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| 18:59.51 | LtL | carmelo11: rather, firmware-linux |
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| 19:00.39 | carmelo11 | I have installed firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 19:00.51 | LtL | carmelo11: install both |
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| 19:02.35 | carmelo11 | firmware-linux is a meta-package that install firmware-linux-free but my wifi firmware is in package firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 19:04.43 | moozer | Are any of you accessing this IRC channel over riot/matrix.org? I can join all other freenode irc channels, just not this one. |
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| 19:05.51 | carmelo11 | ops I was wrong my firmware is in firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 19:06.29 | kaimo | hey all |
| 19:08.41 | carmelo11 | firmware-linux install firmware-linux-free https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-linux-free |
| 19:09.03 | carmelo11 | But there is no wifi card |
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| 19:09.59 | moozer | carmelo11: "lspci" tells you which pci devices are attached |
| 19:10.52 | moozer | "lsmod -k" includes info about which kernel module is used |
| 19:10.56 | carmelo11 | lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net |
| 19:11.16 | carmelo11 | Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300 [8086:4235] |
| 19:11.30 | carmelo11 | Subsystem: Intel Corporation Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300 [8086:1121] |
| 19:11.38 | carmelo11 | Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi |
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| 19:14.30 | moozer | so the module is loaded. Do you have a wlan0 interface |
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| 19:17.16 | moozer | your earlier entry said something about "-D iwlwifi". "wpa_supplicant -h" tells me that iwlwifi is not a valid driver. |
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| 19:17.50 | sjk | =go 4 |
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| 19:26.49 | LtL | ,pciid 8086:4235 |
| 19:26.50 | judd | [8086:4235] is 'Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'iwlwifi', 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:4235 http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 19:27.05 | LtL | ,pciid 8086:1121 |
| 19:27.06 | judd | [8086:1121] is 'Unknown device' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1121 |
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| 19:41.20 | carmelo11 | moozer my interface is wlp4s0 |
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| 19:56.05 | oo_miguel | i run xmonad and wonder which gvim version to choose: gtk3, gtk or athena? |
| 19:57.18 | mxh- | oo_miguel: i have gtk3 but i'd check for which wants the least depenedencies. |
| 19:57.26 | n4dir | oo_miguel: i sure don't know, but as installing packages is quick and easy, i would simply try one after the other (or use the -s or --simulate option to look at the output, dependencies) |
| 19:57.47 | oo_miguel | mxh: n4dir: thanks for suggestion ill try this |
| 19:58.11 | mxh- | oo_miguel: if you already got lots of gtk stuff then use gtk :) |
| 19:58.15 | n4dir | oo_miguel: it was more of chat than a real good suggestion, but good luck :-) |
| 19:58.40 | oo_miguel | I just have a fresh install, not sure if ill use a lot of gtk stuff yet |
| 19:59.17 | ksft | I've had a lot of trouble with Nvidia graphics cards |
| 19:59.38 | ksft | what kinds of graphics cards work well and/or easily with Debian? |
| 19:59.58 | jmcnaught | intel pre-skylake |
| 20:00.05 | towo` | ksft, intel, amd |
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| 20:00.44 | ksft | should any AMD card work well? |
| 20:01.57 | towo` | ksft, theoretical, yes, if it is not vega |
| 20:02.21 | towo` | ksft, but i can't confirm your problems with nvidia |
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| 20:02.39 | towo` | besides you have to use the nonfree binary blob |
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| 20:11.27 | ebol4 | I'm in the process of converting a debian jessie system that was just running off of /dev/sda to use mdadm for RAID1 |
| 20:12.07 | ebol4 | sda1 is the EFI partition |
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| 20:12.14 | ebol4 | sda2 is the RAID partition |
| 20:12.20 | ebol4 | md0 is the RAID device |
| 20:12.30 | ebol4 | i have grub installed to /dev/sda |
| 20:12.45 | ebol4 | md0 just has md0p1, which is / |
| 20:12.56 | jmcnaught | hands ebol4 a comma. |
| 20:13.05 | ebol4 | when I try to boot, i end up at the grub rescue prompt |
| 20:13.16 | ebol4 | i require additional commas |
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| 20:15.19 | ebol4 | I think that grub isn't even able to get to grub.cfg on md0p1 |
| 20:15.35 | ebol4 | but I thought you were allowed to have /boot be on md0 |
| 20:15.43 | jmcnaught | ebol4: did you update-grub and update-initramfs as part of the transition process? |
| 20:15.51 | ebol4 | sheeeeeeeeit |
| 20:16.18 | ebol4 | can you do that from a livecd with chroot or something? |
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| 20:17.28 | Kman | hey, i am going to switch my Ubunt 14.04 to debian 9.1, one thing i have to overcome is the gnome |
| 20:18.05 | jmcnaught | ebol4: yeah you'll need to chroot from another boot medium. You can use a Debian installer image for this, booted in rescue mode. |
| 20:18.06 | Kman | how do we make gnome interface like Ubuntu's unity? it is a pretty convenient desktop |
| 20:18.18 | ceramik | hi, any user with awesome WM around? |
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| 20:18.27 | ebol4 | jmcnaught: i'll give that a try, thanks |
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| 20:18.48 | jmcnaught | ebol4: good luck |
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| 20:19.12 | hanasaki | what iptables command will nat a single TCP destination port ? |
| 20:20.10 | jmcnaught | Kman: there are lots of gnome-shell-extension-* packages, and you can also use extensions from https://extensions.gnome.org/ to customize. However if you give stock gnome-shell a try you might like it. |
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| 20:21.16 | Kman | i did use Debian 8 for sometime, but at last i switched to Ubuntu because of the fluent work flow |
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| 20:22.15 | mxh- | Kman: what do you miss from canonicals gnome? i found them pretty similar |
| 20:22.32 | mxh- | oh unity. nmv |
| 20:22.34 | mxh- | nvm * |
| 20:22.51 | mxh- | Kman: they are switching to gnome now so better prepare ;) |
| 20:22.57 | Kman | the switching between opened windows, |
| 20:23.16 | Kman | in Gnome, if we open one window, the rest are hidden |
| 20:23.39 | mxh- | Kman: press your superkey |
| 20:24.10 | Kman | i like make 3 -4 window opened on the same screen |
| 20:24.39 | jmcnaught | Kman: in GNOME alt+tab switches between applications, alt+` (the key directly above tab) switches between windows of a single application |
| 20:24.43 | mxh- | Kman: so why don't you? you don't have to maximize windows |
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| 20:25.33 | Kman | like this: https://ibb.co/hmdKfQ |
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| 20:26.11 | mxh- | Kman: what's the issue? just drag your windows how you want them, gnome supports that |
| 20:26.52 | mxh- | Kman: if you want a list of open windows, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1160/dash-to-panel/ is a great extension. |
| 20:27.00 | DoctorD90 | jmcnaught im reinstalling for 3rd time xD |
| 20:27.00 | Kman | alt+ tab is annoying |
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| 20:27.31 | Kman | i prefer to use mouse rather that alt+tab because it is efficient |
| 20:27.41 | mxh- | Kman: you CAN HAVE several windows open. there is no issue. yourproblem doesnt exist. :) |
| 20:27.49 | jmcnaught | Kman: are you saying you want a bar of icons visible all the time to switch between applications? |
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| 20:28.10 | mxh- | even if he is, i linked an extension for that. |
| 20:28.15 | Kman | yeah, alt+tab is so in-efficient |
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| 20:28.31 | mxh- | Kman: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1160/dash-to-panel/ not linking this again... |
| 20:28.42 | jmcnaught | Kman: you *can* just mouse to the top-left corner then down to the 'dash' displayed on the left edge of the activities overview |
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| 20:29.20 | jmcnaught | Kman: not using keyboard shortcuts at all, that's inefficient |
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| 20:30.20 | Kman | very often, there are 6-7 apps opened, so using mouse is most efficient way to switch to the target window |
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| 20:31.29 | Kman | but it depends on your comfortable way |
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| 20:34.01 | n4dir | ceramik: i use awesome (but i doubt i will be able to answer your question ...) |
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| 20:34.07 | spacebug^ | Kman: do you want to just hover mouse over a window to make it active and bring it to front? |
| 20:34.29 | Kman | can you guys please post some nice screen of your working desktop? |
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| 20:35.23 | bernte | Can anyone help me with the following error installing headers: linux-headers-4.11.0-2-amd64 : Depends: linux-headers-4.11.0-2-common (= 4.11.11-1+b1) but 4.11.11-1 is to be installed |
| 20:35.29 | n4dir | Kman: one app per desktop, each app maximized. to switch between apps, i just switch the destkop via keyboard shortcut. Nothing to see on a screenshot. |
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| 20:36.49 | towo` | bernte, no, there can nobody help you |
| 20:37.03 | Kman | n4dir usually i make 3-4 apps working together on 1 desktop, by resizing them that i can click anyone in less 1 sec |
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| 20:37.20 | towo` | bernte, until linux-headers-4.11.0-2-common (= 4.11.11-1+b1) is available |
| 20:37.23 | fxb | When installing debian from the graphical interface what is the only difference between 'Debian desktop environment' and 'Gnome' the login screen or is there something more? |
| 20:37.24 | mxh- | Kman: so resize them in gnome. you can resize windows in gnome. last time im saying this. :) |
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| 20:37.39 | fxb | *is the |
| 20:37.48 | bernte | towo`, might switching to 4.12 from experimental be an option? Has anybody tried this? |
| 20:38.07 | mxh- | fxb: "Debian desktop environment" gave me a full gnome install on jessie |
| 20:38.30 | ksft | towo`: you have to use nonfree drivers for Nvidia cards or for AMD cards? |
| 20:38.31 | towo` | bernte, do, whatever you want, but normaly here is no testing, unstable or experimental support |
| 20:38.35 | Kman | mxh-: i am going to install debian on virtual box to see, if i can tweak gnome shell similar like unity |
| 20:38.42 | towo` | ksft, for nvidia |
| 20:38.48 | fxb | mhx- but is there a difference in the version provided? and if so which is the newest/oldest? |
| 20:39.02 | mxh- | Kman: using extensions you absolutely can. look at the one i linked first. :) |
| 20:39.27 | towo` | ksft, for amd cards and intel >= skylake you only need non-free firmware |
| 20:39.49 | mxh- | fxb: to be honest not sure, i didn't want a DE so i immedeately reinstalled. :( |
| 20:40.02 | Kman | mxh-: you mean "Dash to Panel" |
| 20:40.04 | spacebug^ | Kman: you have lots of option in gnome-tweak-tool (for example you can make a window active by only hover mouse over it, no need to click. Also make the active window bring to front). Or change nomber of desktops etc |
| 20:40.12 | mxh- | Kman: yes |
| 20:40.58 | bernte | towo`, what do you mean with "support" in this context? |
| 20:41.17 | towo` | bernte, this channel is for debian stable |
| 20:41.41 | Kman | spacebug^: i will give it a try |
| 20:41.41 | towo` | bertbob, testing and unstable support is in #debian-next on oftc network |
| 20:41.46 | ebol4 | jmcnaught: ran update-grub and update-initramfs from the chroot, rebooted, but still get the grub rescue prompt |
| 20:41.53 | towo` | grr |
| 20:41.55 | ebol4 | it says "error: unknown filesystem" above the prompt |
| 20:41.58 | towo` | bernte, , testing and unstable support is in #debian-next on oftc network |
| 20:42.16 | bernte | towo`, ah - ok ... just saw the #debian-next thing ... I will avoid this channel in the future. |
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| 20:45.18 | Kman | apt-get install gnome-desktop can do this job completely? |
| 20:45.44 | Kman | i have debian 9.1+ xfce4 installed |
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| 20:47.26 | towo` | Kman, i would use apt install task-gnome-desktop |
| 20:49.27 | Kman | towo`: Okay, the difference? |
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| 20:52.10 | towo` | Kman, the difference is, gnome-desktop does not exist ist debian |
| 20:52.18 | towo` | Kman, as package |
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| 20:54.12 | Kman | towo`: i noticed that there is no CD image with Gnome |
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| 20:54.40 | Kman | towo`: 'cause gnome is too big? |
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| 20:58.22 | jmcnaught | ebol4: i'm in and out right now, but can you make a single paragraph summary of the steps you took to transition to RAID and the exact errors you are getting? That'll help you get helped. |
| 20:59.31 | oo_miguel | after a fresh install on my acer laptop (i use xdm) the login screen needs like 1-2 seconds to build up. Is it possible that i lack hardware acceleration or X is miconfigured? It was not like this before |
| 20:59.43 | oo_miguel | its an old acer aspire 1810tz |
| 21:00.08 | Kman | oo_miguel: check you video driver installed |
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| 21:02.55 | oo_miguel | Kman: not sure how to find this out, frankly speaking |
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| 21:04.17 | Kman | oo_miguel: try to get addition drivers tools? |
| 21:04.34 | oo_miguel | Kman: I only installed drivers for wifi from non-free |
| 21:04.40 | oo_miguel | iwlwifi firmware |
| 21:05.20 | Kman | oo_miguel: since your laptop is old, find a legacy driver for your video card |
| 21:05.39 | jmcnaught | oo_miguel: you can run "lspci -nn | grep VGA" which gets the PCI-ID for the card, so we can look it up |
| 21:05.52 | jmcnaught | Kman: additional drivers tool sounds like a ubuntu thing |
| 21:06.06 | oo_miguel | intel mobile 4 series chipset integrated (rev 07) |
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| 21:06.26 | jmcnaught | oo_miguel: you left out the PCI-ID, just show the full line |
| 21:06.51 | oo_miguel | 00:02.0 |
| 21:06.58 | oo_miguel | sorry i am on antoher comp right now |
| 21:07.02 | Kman | jmanfatty: yeah, forgot about this |
| 21:07.16 | oo_miguel | do not want to write the complete line unless its really necessary |
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| 21:07.29 | jmcnaught | oo_miguel: it looks like "[abcd:1234]" |
| 21:07.44 | oo_miguel | 00:02.0 ? |
| 21:07.58 | jmcnaught | no |
| 21:08.21 | jmcnaught | the first part will be 8086 if it's intel |
| 21:09.21 | oo_miguel | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) |
| 21:09.47 | oo_miguel | aaah sorry |
| 21:09.51 | oo_miguel | i missed the -nn |
| 21:10.03 | oo_miguel | 8086:2a42 |
| 21:10.30 | jmcnaught | ,pciid 8086:2a42 |
| 21:10.31 | judd | [8086:2a42] is 'Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'i915', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:2a42 |
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| 21:11.09 | oo_miguel | i have i915 module loaded |
| 21:11.22 | jmcnaught | well it's not a poulsbo. is the only problem that your display manager takes a moment to finish displaying? How is normal desktop usage? |
| 21:12.02 | oo_miguel | jmcnaught: I have only xmonad and a few xterms and they seem fine |
| 21:13.03 | oo_miguel | do not see any extreme lagging |
| 21:13.21 | jmcnaught | oo_miguel: for me gdm displays a mouse pointer first, then the background, then the login controls (all in a second or two)⦠i simply attribute it to it loading at the same time as everything else because systemd starts stuff in parallel |
| 21:14.11 | oo_miguel | i will try to view a hd video. if its fine this should prove i have accelration right? |
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| 21:14.39 | smhar | greetings |
| 21:14.54 | oo_miguel | jmcnaught: thanks for your support |
| 21:15.41 | jmcnaught | oo_miguel: you can look at your Xorg.0.log, or run glxinfo |
| 21:15.52 | oo_miguel | glxinfo says : direct rendinge: yes |
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| 21:15.56 | oo_miguel | rendering |
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| 21:18.13 | oo_miguel | I just played an 1024x768 10minute video (260MB) and its perfectly fluent |
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| 21:18.43 | oo_miguel | so everything seems fine, sorry for panicking ;) |
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| 21:22.50 | ebol4 | in /boot/efi/EFI/debian, are you supposed to have a grub.cfg? |
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| 21:22.55 | ebol4 | or JUST the one efi file |
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| 21:37.48 | smhar | I am trying to setup a LAMP in my stretch laptop. I successfully installed all components and they ran fine. Now I modified the conf files to change it to a multiple vhosts. |
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| 21:38.19 | melo11 | Hi I have a processor Intel P8400, do i need to install Debian i386 or amd64? |
| 21:38.54 | smhar | I created the directory structure under /var/www . I copied the /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf to test.com.conf and modified it then enabled it then disabled the 000-default.conf |
| 21:39.03 | smhar | then I restarted apache |
| 21:40.15 | smhar | but I when I go in the browser to /localhost/test.com I got 404 error |
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| 21:41.18 | format_c | nopaste the 000-default.conf |
| 21:41.40 | LtL | melo11: amd64 |
| 21:42.18 | melo11 | amd64 is also for Intel 64 bit architecture? |
| 21:42.29 | LtL | melo11: yes it is |
| 21:42.43 | smhar | format_c, me? |
| 21:42.49 | format_c | yes |
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| 21:43.55 | jmcnaught | smhar: if you disabled 000-default than the site conf that you enabled would be more helpful |
| 21:44.29 | smhar | format_c, jmcnaught /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf : http://paste.debian.net/978980/ |
| 21:44.50 | smhar | jmcnaught, format_c : /etc/apache2/sites-available/test.com.conf : http://paste.debian.net/978981/ |
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| 21:45.52 | smhar | format_c, jmcnaught : but apachectl -S show that vhost is only one and it has the default DocumentRoot : http://paste.debian.net/978983/ |
| 21:45.56 | melo11 | LtL Will I have drivers problems from i386 to amd64? What caution should I take? |
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| 21:47.11 | format_c | smhar, that's easy |
| 21:47.29 | smhar | format_c, pleeease :-) |
| 21:47.30 | jmcnaught | smhar: if you set DocumentRoot to /var/www/test.com/public_html then you would navigate to http://localhost/ |
| 21:47.39 | format_c | none of the ServerName or ServerAlias derective matches "localhost" |
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| 21:48.13 | format_c | you're better off creating a entry in /etc/hosts to pretend www.test.com has address 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:48.29 | format_c | then apache can match the right virtualhost |
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| 21:48.48 | format_c | Just for testing I guess. |
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| 21:52.24 | format_c | of course after you've created the name entry, call http://www.test.com |
| 21:52.45 | format_c | I guess a index.html exists in the DocumentRoot of the test.com VirtualHost |
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| 21:54.29 | smhar | format_c, but why does apachectl -S shows one vhost only? |
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| 21:55.57 | jmcnaught | smhar: did you use a2ensite and a2dissite? Look at the directory /etc/apache2/sites-enabled, those are the active ones. The same principle applies for modules and confs |
| 21:56.03 | n3tcat | hello |
| 21:56.06 | n3tcat | beta fag here |
| 21:56.15 | n3tcat | can I have download link for debian kde |
| 21:56.18 | format_c | what shows ls -lh /etc/apache2/sites-enabled? |
| 21:56.24 | n3tcat | i end up downloading live version omg |
| 21:56.27 | n3tcat | can I have stable ? |
| 21:56.44 | jrtc27 | n3tcat: take that language elsewhere |
| 21:56.48 | jmcnaught | n3tcat: please don't use that kind of slang here. this isn't 4chan and it's not appropriate. |
| 21:57.01 | n3tcat | Got it, sorry |
| 21:57.15 | smhar | format_c, total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 Jul 30 23:45 test.com.conf -> ../sites-available/test.com.conf |
| 21:57.41 | jmcnaught | n3tcat: use the download link on the front page of the debian.org website. The netinst image (like all Debian installer images) gives you a choice of desktop environment during installation |
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| 21:58.31 | n3tcat | jmcnaught: netinst img was unknown for me, ok then thank you so much |
| 21:59.35 | jmcnaught | n3tcat: Reading the install manual is recommended. Spending 30 minutes with the manual can save you a lot more time doing trial and error: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
| 22:00.22 | smhar | jmcnaught, but why does apachectl -S shows one vhost only? |
| 22:00.35 | format_c | smhar, what's the result of the procedure described above? |
| 22:00.43 | n3tcat | jmcnaught: Im new to debian, but not to gnu/linux, thank you anyway. |
| 22:01.12 | smhar | format_c, jmcnaught: ls -lh /etc/apache2/sites-enabled shows: total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 Jul 30 23:45 test.com.conf -> ../sites-available/test.com.conf |
| 22:01.40 | format_c | smhar, I assume you're restarted apache2 in the meantime? |
| 22:01.57 | jmcnaught | smhar: *only* the files in sites-enabled are used. a2ensite/a2dissite manages symlinks from the sites-enabled to the sites-available directory. |
| 22:02.27 | smhar | format_c, jmcnaught: I did systemctl reload apache2 several times |
| 22:03.04 | jmcnaught | smhar: if you *want* 000-default.conf to be active you need to "a2ensite 000-default ; systemctl reload apache2" |
| 22:03.11 | format_c | What's the output of apachectl -S? |
| 22:03.33 | format_c | BTW, I've never used the apache* commands. |
| 22:03.49 | smhar | http://paste.debian.net/978983/ |
| 22:03.52 | DoctorD90 | jmcnaught solved! at 3rd installation I choose grub for buggy efi :D and it works! :D victory! |
| 22:04.01 | format_c | But just checked the output on a reference installation with some namevhosts |
| 22:04.32 | jmcnaught | smhar: you should read /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.Debian.gz for an explanation of apache configuration on Debian (it's organized differently from upstream) |
| 22:04.41 | jmcnaught | DoctorD90: hurray! |
| 22:04.42 | format_c | smhar, it shows one. |
| 22:04.45 | smhar | format_c, me too, this is my first time installing it and I am overwhelmed |
| 22:04.53 | format_c | Line 2 |
| 22:05.05 | format_c | You've only one namedvirtualhost |
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| 22:05.54 | DoctorD90 | jmcnaught yessa :D issue is that in all this "making" I wronged to install system on wrong hdd xD btw, now that I solved, I can install it on any hdd I want :D thx you all and hurray! :D |
| 22:06.04 | smhar | format_c, I've noticed that.. and I am not sure why.. I followed all the steps in this guide: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-debian-8 |
| 22:06.30 | |subz3r0| | hi |
| 22:06.30 | format_c | smhar, again, have you tried what I said before with the /etc/hosts entry? |
| 22:06.40 | |subz3r0| | what's the replacement of net-tools? |
| 22:06.50 | |subz3r0| | since netstat for example is not installed anymore in a basic debian 9 |
| 22:07.16 | format_c | |subz3r0|, wow that's hard. |
| 22:07.38 | smhar | format_c, no.. not yet.. because as apachectl -S shows.. the problem is: that I still do NOT have multiple vhosts enabled |
| 22:07.57 | jmcnaught | smhar: are you ignoring me or something? |
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| 22:08.00 | format_c | You have only one in the sites-enabled directory |
| 22:08.08 | format_c | this one is shown in the output |
| 22:08.14 | format_c | everything is as it should be |
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| 22:08.26 | format_c | create more named virutal hosts and they will be listed |
| 22:08.29 | |subz3r0| | format_c: so? |
| 22:08.58 | format_c | |subz3r0|, I'd suggest: aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search netstat |
| 22:09.07 | |subz3r0| | are you kidding me? |
| 22:09.07 | jmcnaught | |subz3r0|: you're looking for iproute2 https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#iproute2 |
| 22:09.38 | |subz3r0| | jmcnaught: i'll give that a shot. thanks |
| 22:10.03 | |subz3r0| | jmcnaught: can i rebuild my filters lile -tulpen with it ? |
| 22:10.06 | |subz3r0| | like |
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| 22:11.30 | jmcnaught | |subz3r0|: there's a table in the link I shared with you to show replacement commands. ss is probably what you want. You can also just install net-tools and continue to use netstat |
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| 22:13.18 | smhar | format_c, jmcnaught: I added another vhost and enabled it.. now I have 2 vhosts: this is my apachectl -S : http://paste.debian.net/978985/ |
| 22:14.06 | |subz3r0| | jmcnaught: but this is really basic |
| 22:14.10 | |subz3r0| | ahh, its "ss" |
| 22:14.17 | |subz3r0| | looks quite ugly |
| 22:14.26 | |subz3r0| | but i guess i have to get used to it... :/ |
| 22:14.29 | smhar | but I am wondering why apachectl -S still shows that Main DocumentRoot: "/var/www/html" ? all vhosts are actually under /var/www/ not /var/www/html . where can I chaange that |
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| 22:17.24 | format_c | smhar, yes it's still the default DocumentRoot (if the Hostname Header doesn't match any ServerName or ServerAlias directives of the available Virtual Hosts). |
| 22:17.35 | format_c | You still have only one Vhost configured |
| 22:17.50 | format_c | the DocumentRoot isn't displayed for the virtualhosts |
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| 22:19.53 | smhar | format_c, but the /var/www/html was the old DocumentRoot and 000-default.conf is disabled.. and all vhosts in sites-available which were enabled by a2ensite are under /var/www |
| 22:20.25 | smhar | format_c, /var/www/test.com I do not have /var/www/html anymore |
| 22:20.26 | format_c | grep DocumentRoot /etc/apache2/* -R |
| 22:20.35 | Lyberta | hi, when doing apt-get update I get "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8B48AD6246925553", help? |
| 22:20.37 | format_c | It may be defined somewhere else |
| 22:21.04 | smhar | format_c, http://paste.debian.net/978987/ |
| 22:21.24 | smhar | it is there in the ssl file |
| 22:22.12 | |subz3r0| | Lyberta: you need to update the keys |
| 22:22.24 | |subz3r0| | Lyberta: gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key 8B48AD6246925553 |
| 22:22.32 | format_c | On my system, I've no configuration file defining it. But apachectl -S still shows it. |
| 22:22.46 | format_c | Seem to be a hard-coded default value |
| 22:22.49 | |subz3r0| | Lyberta: gpg -a --export 8B48AD6246925553 | sudo apt-key add - |
| 22:22.54 | format_c | Don't bother too much about it. |
| 22:22.58 | |subz3r0| | then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 22:23.00 | |subz3r0| | should fix it |
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| 22:23.23 | |subz3r0| | anyone of you uses now ss instead of netstat? |
| 22:23.27 | Lyberta | |subz3r0|, as root? |
| 22:23.31 | |subz3r0| | actually im quite unhappy with is |
| 22:24.01 | |subz3r0| | it show me only for example 443/https... but not that its apache or nginx or what ever... this is bul...?! |
| 22:24.04 | |subz3r0| | Lyberta: yes |
| 22:24.31 | |subz3r0| | but the parts where u need it are with sudo |
| 22:24.40 | |subz3r0| | so the commands should for ootb |
| 22:24.44 | jmcnaught | |subz3r0|: ss has a --process, -p did you find the man page? |
| 22:24.57 | |subz3r0| | jmcnaught: already did that |
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| 22:25.17 | smhar | so how to change the DocumentRoot and make sure I have my vhosts enabled and seen? |
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| 22:26.22 | format_c | I think the "Main DocumentRoot" cannot be changed. |
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| 22:26.57 | jelly | |subz3r0|, one shouldn't just blindly add keys to apt |
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| 22:27.17 | jelly | Lyberta, which debian release are you supposed to be running? |
| 22:27.26 | format_c | You create your vhosts, matching the hostnames as they actually resolve and you're done. |
| 22:27.32 | |subz3r0| | jelly: indeed |
| 22:27.41 | Lyberta | jelly, testing |
| 22:27.44 | format_c | Forget about the Main DocuementRoot shown by apachectl -S |
| 22:28.17 | jelly | Lyberta, pastebin the output of "dpkg -l libc6 dpkg apt debian-archive-keyring" |
| 22:28.28 | jelly | !paste |
| 22:28.28 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 22:28.42 | |subz3r0| | jelly: but he asked for help, not an explanation ;) |
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| 22:30.10 | jelly | |subz3r0|, most people here do. It's on you as a volunteer helper to provide said explanation, and is possible avoid pointing someone to bad practive |
| 22:30.14 | jelly | practice* |
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| 22:30.33 | Lyberta | |subz3r0|, I would love the explanation, I don't want to add random keys |
| 22:30.39 | jelly | the right thing to do, on Debian, is to just install an updated version of debian-archive-keyring |
| 22:30.46 | Lyberta | jelly, https://paste.debian.net/978988/ |
| 22:31.03 | jelly | but that one is already rather old, so looking at the state of their system first |
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| 22:31.28 | jelly | Lyberta, and "apt-cache policy", too |
| 22:31.54 | |subz3r0| | Lyberta: on an actual system this should not happen. This only happens when the key got renewed. since those packetes are signed with the key |
| 22:31.56 | jelly | ,v libc6 |
| 22:31.57 | judd | Package: libc6 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u10; wheezy-security: 2.13-38+deb7u12; jessie: 2.19-18+deb8u10; jessie-security: 2.19-18+deb8u10; stretch: 2.24-11+deb9u1; stretch-security: 2.24-11+deb9u1; sid: 2.24-12; buster: 2.24-12 |
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| 22:32.57 | |subz3r0| | Lyberta: this is meant to prevent that any bad packets will be installed on your system which were not signed by the maintainers |
| 22:33.32 | |subz3r0| | but like said.. this should not happen with a fresh testing release normaly |
| 22:33.36 | Lyberta | jelly, https://paste.debian.net/978989/ |
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| 22:34.27 | |subz3r0| | Lyberta: you installed a ppa? |
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| 22:35.38 | Lyberta | |subz3r0|, it was installed via a package |
| 22:35.58 | jelly | Lyberta, why are you using testing and not "buster"? |
| 22:36.17 | |subz3r0| | Lyberta: what package? i guess not. not from the repos |
| 22:36.40 | Lyberta | jelly, so that I don't need to rename it each release |
| 22:36.41 | |subz3r0| | this ppa crap should not be there. like http://ppa.launchpad.net/kxstudio-debian/gcc5/u.... |
| 22:37.00 | jelly | Lyberta, how did you like the switch to buster, did things break a lot |
| 22:37.37 | |subz3r0| | i would rather recommend compiling stuff your own as to install ppas |
| 22:37.41 | Lyberta | jelly, I didn't notice anything bad except this key thing |
| 22:37.43 | jelly | I'm... not sure why you're suddenly missing that key. Could be new apt. |
| 22:37.45 | Lyberta | this system runs testing for 3 years now |
| 22:37.50 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 22:37.50 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 22:38.07 | jelly | ^^ the right place to ask questions about testing and/or unstable |
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| 22:38.45 | Lyberta | |subz3r0|, that would add tons of development packages that I don't really need |
| 22:38.46 | jelly | but then again you do seem to have up-to-date debian-archive-keyring. Who knows. |
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| 22:39.05 | jelly | ask in #debian-next |
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| 22:39.23 | jelly | and maybe read the changelog for package "apt" |
| 22:39.58 | |subz3r0| | Lyberta: build-essential is not tons of dev packages... |
| 22:40.14 | |subz3r0| | Lyberta: and you can remove it afterwards... |
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| 22:40.24 | |subz3r0| | and or use git |
| 22:40.29 | jelly | Lyberta, since you're on testing, it would be good to install apt-listchanges and at the very least read NEWS before installing stuff. Things can change under your feet with testing. |
| 22:40.46 | jelly | |subz3r0|, if you want to help them, do it in #debian-next (on OFTC) |
| 22:40.47 | Lyberta | |subz3r0|, apps usually require tons of development packages for file formats, codecs, gui toolkits, etc |
| 22:41.18 | |subz3r0| | jelly: any recommendations for installing automaticaly security updates on debian? |
| 22:41.47 | jelly | I'd rather avoid seeing answers and advice pertinent for testing in here, lest users of stable get confused |
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| 22:41.56 | Lyberta | jelly, I do have it installed and I didn't see anything interesting with apt |
| 22:42.03 | |subz3r0| | "unattended-upgrades apt-listchanges" or any other prefered way? |
| 22:42.35 | mxh- | where are testing/sid discussions to be held? |
| 22:43.00 | |subz3r0| | !debian-next |
| 22:43.00 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 22:43.57 | |subz3r0| | who owns that bot? |
| 22:44.08 | |subz3r0| | last sentence makes no sense to me |
| 22:44.18 | |subz3r0| | "... it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net" |
| 22:44.21 | |subz3r0| | it's what? |
| 22:44.58 | |subz3r0| | disclaimer? bunny magazine? :D |
| 22:45.12 | jmcnaught | "⦠it means *that* you did not read *that* it's on irc.oftc.net" |
| 22:45.46 | |subz3r0| | but its mentioned before :D lol |
| 22:45.54 | fxb | correct but confusing imho |
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| 22:46.26 | jmcnaught | it's because way too many people get told to go there, then come and tell us the channel is invite only |
| 22:46.40 | |subz3r0| | ;D |
| 22:46.49 | Lyberta | I'm pretty sure most users will type /join #debian-next after reading the bot, I'm sure I did the first time |
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| 22:49.39 | jelly | |subz3r0|, feel free to provide better wording. |
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| 22:50.07 | fxb | it should say "If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (...)." you didn't read the message stating that the channel is on irc.oftc.net", or something |
| 22:50.34 | __Ozy__ | Does anyone know if there is a respository that contains the dbgsym files for packages updated by debian-security through stretch/updates? |
| 22:51.03 | fxb | or just replace "it means" with "then" imo |
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