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| 00:32.48 | veek | Waiting for printer to become available USB - samsung 1440 - anyway to avoid the usb plug/unplug |
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| 01:13.16 | themill | dgriffi: I have a vague memory of them not being generated for 9.1 but I can't find the reference any more. Any particular reason you want the dual-arch installer? (Do you really make i386 installations these days?) |
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| 01:17.48 | dgriffi | themill: I have a lenovo L420 that MUST be used |
| 01:18.39 | dgriffi | themill: it belongs to my girlfriend's mother (who was weaned off Windows a few years ago) |
| 01:18.43 | themill | I assume by now you've downloaded the i386 installer for that machine |
| 01:19.36 | dgriffi | working on it and trying to figure out exactly what nonfree firmware packages I need... which the CD multiarch isn't finding. |
| 01:19.51 | dgriffi | that is... it can't seem to see the flash drive |
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| 01:20.25 | dgriffi | and it doesn't seem that using a multiarch CD image on a flash drive works |
| 01:20.43 | themill | should do. how did you copy it? |
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| 01:23.43 | dgriffi | mount the flash drive and copy firmware-iwlwifi_20161130-3_all.deb on over |
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| 01:24.58 | themill | how did you copy the installer on? |
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| 01:28.10 | dgriffi | themill: I followed this to get a writable bootable flash drive: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 01:29.17 | themill | I'm wanting to know what you did so if there's a problem with it I can help |
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| 01:42.26 | MarioMey | Hello, there. |
| 01:43.02 | MarioMey | Yesterday, I entered here because I had some deleted files that were still there after deleting them: there were system log files. |
| 01:43.32 | MarioMey | Finally, I had to reboot (after a movie was downloaded from web). |
| 01:43.56 | MarioMey | Now, I would like to solve this issue... huge log files. |
| 01:44.26 | MarioMey | Right now, I have 3 files: kern.log, messages and syslog. 5GB each. |
| 01:45.50 | MarioMey | I have this SO (Debian 9) installed in a 25GB partition. It is enough for a linux SO... but not for a SO that makes these log files. |
| 01:49.33 | abrotman | MarioMey: so rotate the logs |
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| 02:05.23 | MarioMey | abrotman: I had read this page: https://support.rackspace.com/how-to/understanding-logrotate-utility/ and I made some changes. For example... |
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| 02:07.53 | MarioMey | I have /etc/cron.daily/logrotate that execute "/usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf" |
| 02:08.02 | MarioMey | /etc/logratate.conf says: |
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| 02:08.43 | MarioMey | daily, rotate 1, create, compress... and some other stuff (I didn't touch them) |
| 02:08.49 | MarioMey | But I create another cron: |
| 02:09.21 | MarioMey | /etc/cron.hourly/logrotate that execute "/usr/sbin/logrotate /etc/logrotate.hourly.conf" |
| 02:09.25 | MarioMey | This file says: |
| 02:09.50 | MarioMey | hourly... and the other options are the same. |
| 02:10.11 | MarioMey | Now, I have a doubt... if I want a hourly cron... should I remove daily cron? |
| 02:10.29 | MarioMey | For me, I wouldn't have log files... |
| 02:10.47 | MarioMey | Not right now. This is my computer, not a server... |
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| 02:11.49 | sc_ | huh |
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| 03:13.24 | Hyp3ri0n | what is the command to find out which program is using a connection? |
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| 03:20.40 | OtakuSenpai | jmcnaught: ? |
| 03:21.19 | mxh- | it's the command. |
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| 03:46.14 | emj2 | �DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0 |
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| 03:46.27 | stree | you send me a renewed outlook on the net install cd |
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| 03:58.48 | ZIPY | hi, i have a lvm encrypted root and boot partition, when i booted i was asked to unlock the encrypted partition which doesnt prompt anymore |
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| 04:50.15 | ofaq | what is the default DE in stretch? |
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| 04:58.53 | N0rthlight | ? |
| 04:58.59 | N0rthlight | Misstell. |
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| 05:27.11 | badargo | hey i installed this package but cant find the readme file or where its installed, do u guys how to fidn that? |
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| 05:28.54 | petn-randall | badargo: dpkg -L <packagename> |
| 05:29.07 | badargo | thanks! |
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| 05:37.31 | pierrot | I have a huge .mkv file (12,3 GB) in a server. I want to download it to my laptop. My IP changes every 12 hours so I need to find a way to transfer it in less than that time. What's the easiest way to do it? |
| 05:37.38 | pierrot | Both sides run Debian |
| 05:38.17 | tx | compress it into part files |
| 05:38.43 | pierrot | My local Internet service is not good (2,5 Mbps) |
| 05:38.47 | tx | or maybe don't even compress, use the split command |
| 05:38.53 | tx | split -v [size] [file] |
| 05:38.59 | tx | where size = 500M or 2G or whatever. |
| 05:39.07 | SwedeMike | pierrot: use rar and create 50 megabyte files separately. Set compression to none, then it's pretty quick to create. |
| 05:39.09 | tx | make sure you back up the file first. |
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| 05:42.11 | pierrot | tx, SwedeMike: Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look information about those alternatives. |
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| 05:43.31 | pierrot | tx: once you divided the file into pieces, how can you rebuild it into the original big piece? |
| 05:44.05 | SwedeMike | pierrot: you can cat them together. I would suggest to use rar though, it has CRC check so you know the files are ok afterwards. |
| 05:45.05 | pierrot | something like `cat piece1 piece2 ... pieceN > bigpiece` ? |
| 05:46.47 | jmcnaught | HTTP can resume downloads |
| 05:47.15 | tx | good servers* |
| 05:47.16 | tx | :P |
| 05:47.19 | Blendify_pi | Hi I just install debian but the wifi driver could not loaded I see the message when booting but is there a way to find this log so I can find the driver and install it from a usb drive |
| 05:48.03 | nku | Blendify_pi: /var/log/messages |
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| 05:53.55 | badargo | petn-randall: dpkg -l show me the filename the version, the architecture and description but not where its installed or the read me file :S |
| 05:54.26 | badargo | i guess |
| 05:56.17 | themill | badargo: -L not -l. |
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| 06:01.37 | xormor | what was the command to show executables in an installed package? |
| 06:04.56 | xormor | dpkg -L shows whatever was installed from the package to my system, the files. |
| 06:04.56 | dpkg | ii shows whatever was installed from the package to my system, the files. 1.5-1.1 xormor's private warez collection |
| 06:05.16 | badargo | themill: i tried dpkg -L and got some 6 directories. i listed one by one and found no readme.md file tho i found 1.gz files... |
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| 06:06.16 | themill | badargo: what package are we talking about? |
| 06:08.21 | badargo | themill: bucklesprings, it adds a typewritter sound to keyboard :P |
| 06:09.31 | themill | finds no such package |
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| 06:11.06 | badargo | bucklespring |
| 06:11.11 | badargo | sorry |
| 06:11.15 | badargo | singular :P |
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| 06:11.49 | badargo | theres a video about it here on youtube |
| 06:11.59 | badargo | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21AuWT1lDMc |
| 06:12.47 | themill | So why do you think there should be a file called readme.md? |
| 06:13.13 | badargo | in this video this guy opened a read me file with vi |
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| 06:22.55 | Haohmaru | throws a rope towards dARksku11 |
| 06:23.18 | towo^work | badargo, in this vidio, you see the sources |
| 06:23.30 | towo^work | badargo, and in the sources, there is a readme.md |
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| 06:25.35 | farmer | Hi what might I be doing wrong if PSAD isnt detecting my nmap scan? I have gone through several Tutorials enabled logging etc and still no go. Any tips? |
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| 06:26.38 | badargo | towo^work: i cant figure how he execute the program and return to the prompt... if i ctrl + c the typewritter sounds stop :( |
| 06:27.29 | towo^work | add & after the command |
| 06:27.37 | veek | is there a way to print from 48 onwards in gv/linux - postscript (mpage output doesn't open in evince/okular)? |
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| 06:27.59 | kaimo | https://imgur.com/a/3Bkxk my morning :( |
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| 06:28.30 | badargo | towo^work: didnt work... but now i closed the tab where i started buckle process and the sound is still going :D |
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| 06:33.18 | badargo | exit |
| 06:33.21 | badargo | ops :P |
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| 06:45.05 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 06:55.01 | dermoth | Hey there... for some time I've been using the debian stable's netboot on my lan as an easy way to do new installs or fix broken boots... however I've always had to keep the following symlink for it to work: |
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| 06:55.07 | dermoth | ldlinux.c32 -> debian-installer/amd64/boot-screens/ldlinux.c32 |
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| 06:56.52 | dermoth | is there any reason it's needed? I never really tried to figure it out; I just added it when I first noticed the error from pxe boot |
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| 07:00.04 | Ormu | hi |
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| 07:01.16 | Ormu | what is the recommended way to mount an NTFS partition in read-only mode? Use "ro" option in fstab? Some seem to recommend setting the type as "ntfs" (instead of "ntfs-3g" which allows read/write access while ntfs does not) |
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| 07:05.58 | BenNZ | Ormu: ntfs is a symlink to ntfs-3g anyway , so use ro instead |
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| 07:07.28 | Ormu | ok, thanks |
| 07:07.29 | Haohmaru | symlinks |
| 07:07.33 | Haohmaru | my life was a lie |
| 07:07.37 | Ormu | :P |
| 07:07.52 | Ormu | should have been hardlinks at least? |
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| 07:11.00 | BenNZ | Ormu: /sbin/ntfs.mount points to /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g which in turn points to /bin/mount.ntfs-3g |
| 07:11.57 | Haohmaru | such deceit |
| 07:12.00 | Ormu | i see |
| 07:12.23 | BenNZ | Ormu: oh and they are both symlinks according to file |
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| 07:13.08 | rudi_s | readlink -f |
| 07:13.39 | Ormu | :o |
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| 07:29.57 | badargo | if you input ps -a and cant find a process that is currently running, what should u do? |
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| 07:30.47 | Ormu | ps aux |
| 07:30.49 | parenia | Try ps -e |
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| 07:30.56 | badargo | thanks |
| 07:31.11 | Ormu | ps -e is a good option too, it provides a cleaner output. ps aux shows the full commands |
| 07:33.02 | jelly | so does ps -fe |
| 07:33.12 | jelly | aux is bsd syntax |
| 07:33.34 | jelly | options with - are sysv syntax, newer |
| 07:33.58 | Ormu | :O |
| 07:34.02 | Ormu | ok, interesting |
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| 07:40.50 | Ormu | BenNZ: for the record, isn't/wasn't there a native kernel driver for NTFS that only provides read access? Is it deprecated? |
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| 07:43.58 | parthiban | Hi, I have started a userspace application using "start-stop-daemon" as non-root. using the option "--chuid" in init.d startup script. I also added "respawn-on" for the process. |
| 07:44.04 | parthiban | If I kill the application process which is started as non-root, it respawn's as root process. I want this process to run as same user after respawn as well. How can I do this? |
| 07:44.56 | ksk | I dont know chuid, but you can write user services for systemd. |
| 07:45.10 | ksk | also, you can specifiy a user in a systemd (non user) service unit |
| 07:45.45 | ksk | systemd has many advantages, you should think about using it instead of init.d stuff. |
| 07:45.52 | ksk | @ parthiban |
| 07:46.39 | parthiban | ksk: thanks. This is for old customer target. It may not be possible for me to change to systemd from sysv init. |
| 07:47.32 | parthiban | Yes, i know systemd got lot of advantages over sysv init |
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| 07:47.49 | sbeex | hello pinguins :) |
| 07:47.51 | parthiban | But I just to update the running user for the one process. |
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| 07:49.10 | parthiban | ksk: do you already some opinion on running process as different user (non-root) after restart/kill? |
| 07:50.08 | BenNZ | Ormu: sorry was afk , depreciated since squeeze i think |
| 07:50.10 | ksk | why do you care for "after restart/kill |
| 07:50.22 | ksk | make your init.d script it uses $user always to start service |
| 07:50.27 | Ormu | BenNZ: ok, thanks :o |
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| 07:50.59 | parthiban | Yeah. I did it already. |
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| 07:51.38 | parthiban | But when the process is exited during the course of work (may be because of bug), it needs to be started again automatically. |
| 07:52.19 | sbeex | Hi, I try to figure out what is not working with my sonarqube installation. If I locally run w3m (text web browser) I can see something at 121.0.0.1 but from another local machine with I cannot access to it with 192.x.x.12 <-- the ip of the machine. |
| 07:52.20 | parthiban | So I have enabled "respawn-on" for that process. Which makes sure that the process always runs even it exits with error. |
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| 07:52.39 | stree | to do something useful locally and open a text message from our previous discussions |
| 07:53.03 | sbeex | https://thepasteb.in/p/pghQ6rZ9JBgtR |
| 07:53.23 | sbeex | my port 80 is open right ? |
| 07:54.04 | parthiban | ksk: if the process killed or exited abnormally, it's getting started again. But this time as "root". Not as specified user in "--chuid" |
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| 08:34.35 | rovonovo_zoro | Hi am having some issues with my WiFi |
| 08:34.35 | rovonovo_zoro | The signal strength is too low and it won't connect |
| 08:34.53 | rovonovo_zoro | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.24 | mxh- | rovonovo_zoro: but you see the network ssid when scanning? |
| 08:35.30 | rovonovo_zoro | yup |
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| 08:38.31 | darxmurf | my colleague just ran aptitude upgrade to move from 8.9 to stretch but it's stuck on "resolving dependencies" is it something common ? |
| 08:38.41 | darxmurf | I'm only using apt-get for that, never aptitude |
| 08:39.08 | Ormu | i guess it may take long to resolve thousands of dependencies |
| 08:39.26 | darxmurf | never had this with apt |
| 08:39.30 | darxmurf | apt-get |
| 08:39.44 | Ormu | even in full system upgrade? |
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| 08:39.47 | darxmurf | yep |
| 08:40.02 | Ormu | I don't know then :| |
| 08:40.34 | darxmurf | I found some old posts about this, guys fixed the thing by removing and reinstalling aptitude :-/ |
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| 08:42.40 | Ormu | rovonovo_zoro: signal strength and quality must be very low if the network can be detected but not at all connected to. Just my 2cents. |
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| 08:43.30 | Ormu | If possible, try in a location where the signal is better to exclude other reasons for inability to connect. |
| 08:43.36 | rovonovo_zoro | i can connect to the network now but no internet access though |
| 08:43.40 | Ormu | hm |
| 08:44.17 | rovonovo_zoro | am just near to the modem the signal should be 100 % |
| 08:44.28 | Ormu | what is the reported signal strength? |
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| 08:45.15 | rovonovo_zoro | how do i look that ? |
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| 08:45.57 | Ormu | the network connection app might show it, or have a graphical meter. Anyway, if you are next to the wifi station, the problem is most likely not related to signal strength. |
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| 08:47.57 | rovonovo_zoro | k |
| 08:47.58 | mxh- | rovonovo_zoro: sudo iwconfig and check link qualiy and signal level |
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| 08:50.49 | rovonovo_zoro | http://termbin.com/gok6 |
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| 08:54.31 | mxh- | rovonovo_zoro: very weird, that's almost identical to mine and i have excellent connection. |
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| 08:54.48 | rovonovo_zoro | ah |
| 08:55.02 | mxh- | rovonovo_zoro: other machines have good speed on the same gateway? |
| 08:55.09 | rovonovo_zoro | yeah |
| 08:55.14 | mxh- | :/ |
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| 08:58.53 | Ormu | the the problem might be caused by something else... try ping google.com and if that doesn't work, ping 8.8.4.4 (that's google's DNS server IP) |
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| 09:00.15 | rovonovo_zoro | tried ping too ,no good |
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| 09:01.20 | rovonovo_zoro | i feel the signal strenth is low if i move away it auto disconnects |
| 09:01.55 | rovonovo_zoro | strange have internet acess now |
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| 09:04.10 | Ormu | note to self: dmesg requires privileges in stretch |
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| 09:04.56 | mxh- | rovonovo_zoro: you have good bitrate and decent signal quality, i can only suspect interference but im no expert |
| 09:05.12 | rovonovo_zoro | ok |
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| 09:06.23 | woenxs | Hey |
| 09:06.37 | woenxs | Is it possible to see the output of a running cron job? |
| 09:06.45 | woenxs | that is running right now |
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| 09:09.05 | mxh- | rovonovo_zoro: long shot but sudo iwlist <interface-name> scanning | grep Channel |
| 09:09.17 | mxh- | if there are a ton on your channel i'd try switching |
| 09:09.29 | Ormu | :o |
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| 09:09.56 | Ormu | good to know that method |
| 09:10.07 | Ormu | i've only used Kismet for that :P |
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| 09:14.16 | mxh- | Ormu: even better if you use nmcli - nmcli device wifi list |
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| 09:14.31 | mxh- | shows all APs, their channels, rates and signal strength |
| 09:14.35 | fourhundred | in Jessie, there is no mplayer package |
| 09:14.40 | fourhundred | instead, there is mplayer2 |
| 09:14.57 | Ormu | :o |
| 09:14.58 | fourhundred | what happened to original mplayer ? |
| 09:15.26 | Haohmaru | it was murdered with multiple fork stabs |
| 09:15.32 | Haohmaru | is kidding |
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| 09:16.19 | fourhundred | yeah, mplayer2 seems to be a fork of mplayer |
| 09:16.20 | rovonovo_zoro | http://termbin.com/llue |
| 09:16.45 | fourhundred | but when I installit, it behaves like mplayer |
| 09:16.48 | Ormu | so many media players :| |
| 09:16.54 | fourhundred | and even lives in /usr/bin/mplayer |
| 09:17.00 | fourhundred | so I am confused |
| 09:17.14 | Haohmaru | linux is confusing |
| 09:17.20 | mxh- | its a fork. but why not go for mpv? fast, plays anything |
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| 09:17.49 | fourhundred | mpv is yet another form of mplayer / |
| 09:17.51 | Haohmaru | isn't mpv also a fork of something too |
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| 09:18.10 | Haohmaru | NOTHING IS PUREBLOODED ;P~ |
| 09:18.17 | Ormu | vlc |
| 09:18.20 | Ormu | :P |
| 09:18.23 | mxh- | that i don't know but mpv will play anything :P youtube link? no problem |
| 09:18.37 | Ormu | Real(tm) video? |
| 09:18.52 | Haohmaru | i want Fake video |
| 09:19.00 | Ormu | obscure WMV versions? |
| 09:19.05 | mxh- | "anything" might be a lie, dont think it does wmv drm bs |
| 09:19.06 | stree | google play wmv in iceweasel |
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| 09:21.01 | bielewelt | On Friday I mentioned that virtualbox-dkms cannot build vboxdrv on Debian testing. I was asked if the issue is present in sid as well, which I can now confirm. It says: âModule build for kernel 4.11.0-2-amd64 was skipped since the kernel headers for this kernel does not seem to be installed.â In fact, linux-headers-4.11.0-1-amd64 is installed but linux-headers-4.11.0-2-amd64 is unavailable at this time. How can I get VirtualBox worki |
| 09:21.01 | bielewelt | ng again? |
| 09:21.23 | Haohmaru | in my experience vlc has the tendancy to hang and fills the resources quickly |
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| 09:25.28 | carmelo11 | Hi guys |
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| 09:28.49 | mxh- | carmelo11: o/ |
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| 09:30.28 | bielewelt | Does it make sense to file a bug for virtualbox, or do I simply have to wait for linux-headers-4.11.0-2-amd64 to become available? |
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| 09:32.02 | carmelo11 | I have installed from scratch debian 9.1, I have a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450 and I have installed firmware-amd-graphics |
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| 09:33.13 | carmelo11 | This morning I got a kind of freeze on the screen, that's what I found https://pastebin.com/Xivj4vAE |
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| 09:36.24 | towo^work | bielewelt, a bug against vbox would be wrong |
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| 09:37.32 | mxh- | bielewelt: do you have the same version of source and headers? if not "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`" then "dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-dkms" |
| 09:37.45 | mxh- | uh maybe "dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox" also |
| 09:38.10 | towo^work | mxh-, would not help, since the 4.11 headers are not installable |
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| 09:38.15 | towo^work | in testing |
| 09:38.16 | Aebian | I have extended a disk from 5GB to 20GB but even after restart its still saying that /dev/sdb/ has 5G. I'm sure I need to extend that disk somehow, but how? |
| 09:38.56 | towo^work | Aebian, if you speak about a partition, you have to resize the filesystem also |
| 09:38.59 | mxh- | I missed testing, sorry. |
| 09:39.06 | Aebian | I don't want to delete stuff just add the 15GB to the disk |
| 09:39.32 | towo^work | how you can extend a disk? |
| 09:39.33 | Aebian | its just mounted on /db/ for database files |
| 09:39.46 | Aebian | so no system disk |
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| 09:40.33 | carmelo11 | Do you need to open a bug report? |
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| 09:42.20 | bielewelt | mxh-: I already tried what you advise, and the result is this: The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 09:42.20 | bielewelt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:43.07 | mxh- | bielewelt: yeah like i said i missed you're on Testing, sorry about that, i was told this channel was for stable only earlier |
| 09:43.11 | towo^work | bielewelt, there is a bugreport for that issue |
| 09:43.15 | Aebian | ah nvm I just used resize2fs for that |
| 09:43.18 | Aebian | that worked |
| 09:43.27 | towo^work | bielewelt, and this channel is for stable support |
| 09:43.33 | bielewelt | Sorry. |
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| 09:52.44 | forcerecon | goodmorning debian! |
| 09:54.45 | mxh- | morning |
| 09:55.47 | forcerecon | the sun it not even up here.. |
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| 10:03.49 | BluesKaj | HI folks |
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| 10:21.41 | gidna | Hello |
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| 10:22.58 | gidna | what's processor I have to chose to downalod the usb stick if I have an intel i3 processor? |
| 10:23.29 | boodie | Hi (Jessie) I'm about to launch the upgrade - if anything went wrong, I am planning to get back for help through irssi; what is the irc server to connect to? |
| 10:23.31 | towo^work | amd64 |
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| 10:25.07 | towo^work | gidna, amd64 |
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| 10:28.07 | gidna | Does the new debian distribution comes with php7 ? |
| 10:28.23 | gidna | *come |
| 10:29.26 | towo^work | gidna, yes |
| 10:29.29 | Haohmaru | in synaptic i have "This package is a dependency package, which depends on Debian's default |
| 10:29.29 | Haohmaru | PHP version (currently 7.0)." |
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| 10:30.03 | gidna | 'cause I want to install debian to run a webserver with php7 for testing |
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| 10:37.32 | gidna | during the installation can I install KDE? |
| 10:37.50 | BluesKaj | gidna, yes |
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| 10:38.57 | BluesKaj | gidna, just don't choose the default DE or you'kk get gnome |
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| 10:40.37 | gidna | BluesKaj: I managed to burn it on /dev/sdb |
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| 10:40.44 | gidna | now I will try to install it... |
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| 10:41.41 | BluesKaj | gidna, which image did you burn ? |
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| 10:42.51 | Kman | for a light desktop environment, which one is the best? |
| 10:43.11 | Kman | xfce4 or cinnamon? |
| 10:43.42 | Haohmaru | i'd say xfce4 or lxde |
| 10:44.13 | Kman | i tried xfce4, the experience was not so good |
| 10:44.20 | Kman | i want a gnome-based shell |
| 10:44.29 | Haohmaru | yeah, but it's not too bad, i use lxde tho |
| 10:44.46 | Haohmaru | there's also lxqt but i didn't like the looks |
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| 10:46.33 | Kman | How about MATE, it is based on gnome 2, it should be fast |
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| 10:46.55 | Kman | while cinnamon is based on gnome 3, should be heavier that MATE |
| 10:47.00 | Haohmaru | and gnome is inspired by apple, isn't it? |
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| 10:53.44 | jrmu | mate looks nice, I second it |
| 10:53.50 | jrmu | apart from xfce it's probably my favorite |
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| 11:02.10 | Haohmaru | i've tried mate cinnamon, lxqt, gnome, kde |
| 11:02.26 | Haohmaru | kde is the worst |
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| 11:02.54 | jrmu | I haven't tried lxqt yet. Is it lighter than xfce? |
| 11:03.05 | Haohmaru | maybe |
| 11:03.54 | Haohmaru | lightdm+openbox+pcmanfm is a nice combo |
| 11:03.54 | jrmu | do you mind if I ask you more on #debian-offtopic ? |
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| 11:09.02 | Shadur | ... Sysadmin question: Suppose I mount /tmp as noexec, would there be ny debian software that'd choke on it? |
| 11:09.47 | bielewelt | jrmu: In my experience, lxqt is not lighter than xfce â quite the opposite. |
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| 11:11.15 | jrmu | bielewelt: thanks. Maybe I'll still keep recommending xfce then |
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| 11:28.06 | Kman | i have MATE and xfce4 installed. The default DE is MATE, but when logout, can not select XFCE4 or other DEs |
| 11:28.34 | Haohmaru | i think that's up to your login manager |
| 11:28.40 | Haohmaru | which one do you use? |
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| 11:30.45 | Kman | lightdm? |
| 11:30.54 | Haohmaru | weird then |
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| 11:31.27 | Kman | how i can install another login manager |
| 11:31.29 | Haohmaru | i also use lightdm, and it somehow "magically" knows all desktop environments i have |
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| 11:31.59 | Haohmaru | Kman, are you sure about all of that? |
| 11:32.11 | Kman | echo $DESKTOP_SESSION |
| 11:32.19 | Haohmaru | you know where the session changer is in lightdm, right? |
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| 11:34.13 | Haohmaru | Kman, http://i.imgur.com/FsLDgrh.png |
| 11:36.30 | Kman | Haohmaru: what is that widget? |
| 11:37.20 | Haohmaru | in lightdm you have a button (it may not look like a button, it may even be a listbox) where you can select the desktop |
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| 11:38.00 | Haohmaru | it opens a list with the desktops you have (as far as lightdm knows) and you can switch it from there to xfce or so |
| 11:38.09 | Haohmaru | otherwise it will run the default one |
| 11:38.13 | Kman | the program name? |
| 11:38.26 | Haohmaru | uhm.. what program |
| 11:38.34 | Haohmaru | this is in lightdm |
| 11:38.41 | Kman | i could not find the button |
| 11:39.51 | Haohmaru | do you have a toolbar at the top of the screen? |
| 11:40.04 | Kman | yeah |
| 11:40.54 | Kman | https://ibb.co/kcfBvQ |
| 11:41.44 | Haohmaru | that's not lightdm |
| 11:41.50 | Haohmaru | this is your desktop |
| 11:42.01 | Haohmaru | mate i guess |
| 11:42.23 | Haohmaru | logout from it, and it should bring you to the lightdm login manager |
| 11:42.32 | jrmu | Haohmaru: sorry about that. But yes, if you disable javascript, icecat/firefox should work much faster |
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| 11:43.17 | Kman | Haohmaru: no options in login screen to select any DE |
| 11:43.41 | Haohmaru | huh |
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| 11:46.06 | Kman | here https://ibb.co/ftHwUk |
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| 11:46.14 | boodie | Hi (Jessie) while upgrading (apt-get upgrade), I have been prompted: "A new version (/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades.ucftmp) of configuration file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades is available, but the version installed currently has been locally â |
| 11:46.14 | boodie | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:47.21 | Haohmaru | Kman, and you don't have a toolbar at the top? |
| 11:47.31 | Haohmaru | or bottom, or somewhere |
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| 11:48.37 | Haohmaru | Kman, i have installed debian with LXDE only, and i still have the desktop switcher, because it lists at least 3 options in my case: Default, LXDE, OpenBox |
| 11:48.45 | Kman | i showed you https://ibb.co/kcfBvQ |
| 11:49.04 | Haohmaru | that's your desktop |
| 11:49.34 | Haohmaru | the previous screenshot was indeed from lightdm, but was cropped and doesn't show the whole screen |
| 11:49.35 | Kman | the default display manager is lightdm |
| 11:50.01 | Kman | from /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 11:50.05 | towo^work | boodie, have you make any changes in that file by yourself? |
| 11:50.40 | towo^work | boodie, if no, use the new maintainers file, if yes use your installed file |
| 11:51.47 | Haohmaru | Kman, http://entornosgnulinux.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/lightdm-gtk-greeter.jpg |
| 11:52.02 | Haohmaru | yours should look similar to this, this is the gtk-greeter |
| 11:52.24 | Haohmaru | see the toolbar thing? it has a few icons.. well, the first one of them is a button |
| 11:53.57 | Kman | i think i need to remove lightdm and install gdm |
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| 11:54.06 | Haohmaru | suit yourself |
| 11:54.23 | Haohmaru | as long as it works and you can select your options |
| 11:55.34 | boodie | Hi (Jessie): In doubt, I went for the new maintainers file. While upgrading (apt-get upgrade), I received the error android-androresolvd E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) and the upgrade terminated, now ... how do I check whether I can proceed further with "dist-upgrade"? |
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| 12:01.00 | boodie | Hi (Jessie): While upgrading (first step, "apt-get upgrade"), I received the following error "android-androresolvd E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" and the upgrade terminated, now ... how do I check whether I can proceed further with "dist-upgrade"? |
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| 12:01.30 | babilen | dpkg: bat |
| 12:01.31 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 12:01.43 | babilen | boodie: ^ |
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| 12:02.52 | forcerecon | is any able to run this on their debian stretch machine? I cannot get it to run at all.. |
| 12:02.52 | forcerecon | https://benchmark.unigine.com/superposition |
| 12:02.52 | Kman | Haohmaru: it seems i can not find gdm |
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| 12:03.35 | Haohmaru | have you messed up your debian by any chance? |
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| 12:05.17 | Kman | Haohmaru: ok gdm3 |
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| 12:10.18 | boodie | Hi (Jessie): how do I ste the output to English? |
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| 12:18.51 | boodie | http://paste.debian.net/979065/ beware some of the ouputs are in Italian mixed with english (this is how my locale is set) |
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| 12:20.24 | boodie | What would happen if I rerun "apt-get upgrade"? |
| 12:20.40 | Haohmaru | you'd go into the future |
| 12:21.13 | ksk | boodie: to set output to english you can do "LANG=C; $command" |
| 12:21.24 | boodie | Thanks |
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| 12:24.35 | boodie | http://paste.debian.net/979066/ |
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| 12:42.52 | boodie | Hi (Jessie): I am stuck in the middle of upgrading; the output of apt-get "upgrade" is huge, so I'm not sure if it can be pasted. Upgrade terminated because of a faulty package (android-androresolvd). .. how do I check whether I can proceed further with "dist-upgrade"? |
| 12:43.26 | Haohmaru | smells like a sabotage from google |
| 12:44.07 | towo^work | "how do I check whether I can proceed further with "dist-upgrade"?" try it? |
| 12:44.17 | towo^work | what should be? |
| 12:44.18 | jelly | ,v android-androresolvd |
| 12:44.19 | judd | An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 12:44.22 | jelly | lol |
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| 12:44.31 | jelly | judd, go to sleep |
| 12:45.09 | jelly | and those two, too |
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| 12:45.32 | moldy | hi |
| 12:46.01 | moldy | is it wrong to enter a fully-qualified hostname (e.g. `myhost.example.org`) in /etc/hostname? |
| 12:46.26 | boodie | Ok, I will try "dist-upgrade" and see what happens ... |
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| 12:47.37 | forcerecon | I want to connect to a network share via ssh automatically each time I log in rather then manually each time I reboot. How does one go about doing this. or maybe just throw out some keywords and I can search for myself online. I have not found anything with persistent ssh connection or mapping a permanent drive in linux.. nada.. any help is appreciated |
| 12:47.40 | moldy | https://serverfault.com/questions/331936/ hmmm |
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| 12:48.23 | woenxs | use autofs |
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| 12:48.39 | woenxs | http://www.tjansson.dk/2008/01/autofs-and-sshfs-the-perfect-couple/ |
| 12:49.50 | forcerecon | excellent.. reading now.. appreciated |
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| 12:53.05 | jelly | ,v android-androresolvd |
| 12:53.06 | judd | Package: android-androresolvd on amd64 -- jessie: 1.3-1; sid: 1.3-1+b1; buster: 1.3-1+b1; stretch: 1.3-1+b1 |
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| 13:01.38 | rovonovo_zoro | https://www.loomio.org/p/RQjSgpLP/do-you-want-to-join-debian-packaging-workshop-online- |
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| 13:02.29 | Ormu | Had a crash... I've noticed several brief flashes of the screen, and now something apparently crashed, screen turned black and yellow'ish noisy line was seen on the left edge. I suspect that this might be caused by xfwm4 composition. Where should I look for logged information? Has anyone else noticed similar problems? |
| 13:03.12 | Ormu | GPU is Intel HD Graphics, integrated to CPU which is Core i5-520M. |
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| 13:04.24 | Ormu | This is xfwm4 version 4.12.4 (revision 7844952) for Xfce 4.12 |
| 13:05.10 | vwill | hi all |
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| 13:18.23 | darxmurf | hi |
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| 13:24.05 | Antares | С Ðнем Ð Ð¾Ð¶Ð´ÐµÐ½Ð¸Ñ ÐолÑн - ÑоÑÑиÑе болÑÑими и ÑилÑнÑми! |
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| 13:24.44 | Haohmaru | rrright |
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| 13:25.45 | Haohmaru | can a folder somewhere on an ntfs volume be mounted to a folder in the linux? |
| 13:25.59 | Haohmaru | like.. say.. D:\somewhere\deep\thisfolder |
| 13:26.43 | towo^work | no# |
| 13:26.52 | towo^work | yo can only mount a device |
| 13:26.53 | Haohmaru | only the whole volume? |
| 13:26.59 | Haohmaru | okay |
| 13:27.32 | Ormu | hm, screen flashed again and i caught this from dmesg: [ 1766.993135] [drm:ironlake_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* CPU pipe A FIFO underrun |
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| 13:27.35 | Ormu | [ 1766.993235] [drm:ironlake_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* PCH transcoder A FIFO underrun |
| 13:28.15 | Haohmaru | i915 smells like your intel gpu driver |
| 13:28.32 | Ormu | it is, my GPU is Intel HD Graphics integrated to Core i5-520M CPU |
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| 13:28.46 | Ormu | here's my previous message: Had a crash... I've noticed several brief flashes of the screen, and now something apparently crashed, screen turned black and yellow'ish noisy line was seen on the left edge. I suspect that this might be caused by xfwm4 composition. Where should I look for logged information? Has anyone else noticed similar problems? |
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| 13:29.23 | Haohmaru | xfwm is xfce's window manager? |
| 13:29.26 | Ormu | yes |
| 13:29.39 | Haohmaru | then i don't know.. i don't use it |
| 13:29.50 | Ormu | and it supports composition which is currently enabled... I'm not sure if it causes this problem but i wouldn't be surprised |
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| 13:30.52 | Ormu | I had Xfce on LMDE on this computer previously, composition was off and I never observed problems like this. Now I installed Debian, composition is enabled (by default) and this is happening |
| 13:31.14 | towo^work | which ddx you are using? |
| 13:31.19 | Ormu | ddx? |
| 13:31.24 | towo^work | x driver |
| 13:31.26 | Haohmaru | what's LMDE? |
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| 13:31.49 | Ormu | Linux Mint Debian Edition, basically an edition of Mint that uses Debian (Jessie) stuff |
| 13:31.50 | towo^work | Haohmaru, linux mint debian edition |
| 13:31.54 | Haohmaru | oh |
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| 13:32.39 | Ormu | looks like it's not going to receive major updates anytime soon and many software are getting old so I switched. Nowadays I prefer plain debian anyway. |
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| 13:33.26 | towo^work | Ormu, again, which x driver you are using? intel or modesetting (wich is default) |
| 13:33.30 | enyc | debian MATE packages seem to work, fwiw! |
| 13:33.40 | enyc | not sure about debian-supplied Cinnamon |
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| 13:34.04 | Ormu | towo^work - default one i think, |
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| 13:34.26 | towo^work | Ormu, then i would try intel, which is better for modern intel gpu |
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| 13:36.42 | Ormu | towo^work: i ran lshw -c video and it shows: configuration: driver=i915 latency=0 |
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| 13:36.56 | Ormu | under "VGA compatible controller" |
| 13:36.59 | towo^work | Ormu, that is the kernel driver |
| 13:37.12 | Ormu | oh, meh |
| 13:37.13 | towo^work | Xorg.0.log would tell you the x driver |
| 13:39.10 | Ormu | [ 26.157] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so |
| 13:39.32 | towo^work | that's, what i'm expecting |
| 13:39.41 | towo^work | so i would test with intel |
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| 13:40.29 | Ormu | ok, let's try that. Btw, why is this modesetting driver used as a default? Is it related to free/non-free aspects? |
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| 13:41.14 | towo^work | no, it's because the intel ddx is in a not so good shape for older chipsets |
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| 13:41.46 | Ormu | hm :O |
| 13:42.17 | towo^work | Ormu, you can use intel with mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "intel"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf |
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| 13:43.32 | Ormu | thanks, doing it now. Btw, this "drm" thing in dmesg and elsewhere is confusing. It's not related to digital restrictions management, right? :P |
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| 13:43.57 | towo^work | Ormu, no, its direct rendering management |
| 13:44.01 | tremolo | direct rendering |
| 13:44.04 | tremolo | oh, hi |
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| 13:44.19 | stree | the software rendering mode is off, download unetbootin, put the forest trees |
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| 13:45.45 | celyr | mh |
| 13:45.56 | celyr | lxterm is not showing the new colorful prompt |
| 13:46.09 | celyr | If I force the PS1 with colors it does work |
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| 13:46.17 | celyr | I wonder why it was disabled with lxterm |
| 13:46.22 | celyr | not sure I'm going to fix that tho |
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| 13:49.19 | desktopgnubie | I've got a folder called writings which contains many subfolders/ The contents of these subfolders are only files terminated in .txt and .odt What command shall I use to copy all the .odt files to a folder called backup? |
| 13:50.49 | celyr | find folder -name *.odt -exec cp {} backup_folder \; |
| 13:50.58 | celyr | or something like that |
| 13:51.22 | celyr | desktopgnubie, do you wank to keep the subdirectory structure ? |
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| 13:55.02 | Haohmaru | wank? ;] |
| 13:55.29 | Ormu | now it's using the intel driver i think: [ 23.920] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so |
| 13:56.08 | Haohmaru | that's not a black-box binary-blob type of driver, is it? |
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| 13:56.57 | Ormu | it says that it's provided by X.org foundation, i suppose not. And I think Intel supports the open-source driver development. |
| 13:57.01 | RATS | iii ... |
| 13:57.36 | RATS | I get one ram from laptop |
| 13:58.13 | jhutchins | desktopgnubie: rsync |
| 13:58.15 | RATS | good planning to building on airport aircraft |
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| 13:59.23 | Ormu | towo^work: the package description for the intel driver seems to discourage its use... and Archlinux wiki says the same. Do you know why? |
| 14:00.05 | RATS | Asking Intel? |
| 14:00.25 | Ormu | I'll use it anyway unless it causes problems. thx for help! |
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| 14:00.33 | jhutchins | towo^work: Ormu CTUlly, thw linw Ormu showed with the i915 driver was the kernel module for the Intel graphics. |
| 14:00.36 | RATS | HTML setting maybe... |
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| 14:01.04 | Ormu | :O |
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| 14:01.14 | RATS | Module 1 : ? |
| 14:01.20 | afidegnum | what does this command means? âps -efâ |
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| 14:01.47 | Ormu | list all processes |
| 14:02.08 | RATS | I try check him |
| 14:02.25 | RATS | Commands? |
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| 14:03.09 | jhutchins | afidegnum: man ps will give you lots of info and options. |
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| 14:09.34 | desktopgnubie | celyr, my bad but I should have mentioned that i want to copy the *.odt files in the folder writings to the folder backup *keeping* the names of its subfolders |
| 14:09.53 | celyr | desktopgnubie, as jhutchins said rsync |
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| 14:11.28 | desktopgnubie | sorry but i do not understand what you mean by rsync. I am desktop newbie. what would be the full command that i would have to execute? |
| 14:11.40 | celyr | desktopgnubie, or you can pipe find output with tar |
| 14:12.42 | themill | desktopgnubie: if you ask how to do something, there's a good chance someone will answer with the name of a tool you can use to do it. |
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| 14:13.46 | desktopgnubie | the mill, ok but the full command would be nicer :) |
| 14:14.09 | themill | not a chance. |
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| 14:15.34 | celyr | desktopgnubie, well you can find using the -name option like I told you and the -o option and then | to tar that has a very easy syntax and to compress the stdin just use - |
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| 14:16.01 | celyr | with tar you can also compress on the fly |
| 14:16.18 | celyr | look for J z and I will never remember the xz syntax |
| 14:16.46 | celyr | well it's J |
| 14:16.51 | celyr | j is for bzip2 |
| 14:17.57 | Ormu | if there's a compressed tar file with many files inside, is it necessary to de-compress the entire file to read the list of contents? |
| 14:18.47 | Ormu | or is it possible to get the list without full decompression, AND are there archivers that can do it this way? |
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| 14:19.49 | celyr | Ormu, -t |
| 14:19.55 | celyr | freaking man tar |
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| 14:23.34 | Ormu | celyr: hm ok. So that way it only de-compresses a part of the file until it finds the file list? I think not all GUI archivers can read the contents except by de-compressing everything first (and I don't mean extracting the tar file, just removing the gzip/bzip2/lzma/whatever compression) |
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| 14:24.31 | celyr | I think that every sane compression format has an header with the list of the files so I don't expect that list option is going to decompress anything but the header |
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| 14:25.04 | celyr | well |
| 14:25.10 | Ormu | hm... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_(computing)#Random_access |
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| 14:26.38 | celyr | If the archive is seekable it actually doesn't read it all |
| 14:26.53 | celyr | But If it's compressed then I guess that it has to be uncompressed completely |
| 14:27.04 | Ormu | yeah, that's what i somewhat expected |
| 14:27.15 | jelly | celyr, tar isn't a compression format, it's just an archive format. streaming compressions typically applied on top are not aware of tar metadata |
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| 14:27.59 | jelly | so yeah, you need to pass the whole thing thru a decompression stage to be able to list the contents |
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| 14:29.06 | eugenmayer | hello, any guid or summary on how key distributions for apt-servers are to be handled with stretch? it seems like most of the configuration management stuff is broken with stretch since keys are distributed a different way? |
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| 14:30.53 | jelly | keys for what, eugenmayer? |
| 14:31.11 | eugenmayer | apt repos, like docker, percona and so forth |
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| 14:31.30 | eugenmayer | jelly: https://github.com/chef-cookbooks/chef-apt-docker/issues/7 there are issues like that for stretch all over the place |
| 14:31.33 | jelly | just put them in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ |
| 14:31.58 | eugenmayer | well thats what i got, but is there a way to do this the old fashioned way |
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| 14:32.05 | eugenmayer | apt-key alike? |
| 14:32.26 | citypw | https://github.com/hardenedlinux/Debian-GNU-Linux-Profiles/blob/master/docs/harbian_fw/harbian_chipsec.md |
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| 14:34.42 | jelly | eugenmayer, > gpg: failed to start the dirmngr '/usr/bin/dirmngr' |
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| 14:35.07 | jelly | eugenmayer, so... install dirmngr. Some Recommends are actually useful. |
| 14:35.49 | jelly | if you go out of your way to disable Recommends, you'll get breakage now and then |
| 14:36.28 | jelly | nothing to do with trusted.gpg.d/ |
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| 14:38.48 | eugenmayer | jelly: i remember trying this with my recipes, and installing dirmngr did not help in this case |
| 14:38.51 | themill | dropping keyring files into /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d also works in jessie |
| 14:39.15 | jelly | eugenmayer, then show your case. |
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| 14:39.35 | eugenmayer | jelly: i will, sorry, Will reproduce and come back later. Thanks in any way! |
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| 14:40.23 | themill | The use of apt-key for this sort of thing has been discouraged for years btw |
| 14:40.39 | Shadur | If I have multiple entries for, e.g., eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, will it assign/deassign each of the addresses mentioned in said entries on ifup/ifdown ? |
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| 14:42.34 | saijusgeorge | Hi Guys , is it possible to add multiple ExecStart= command prameter in one systemd file eg: /lib/systemd/system/snort.service |
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| 15:01.04 | TandyUK | ok, im confused, on a debian box, i have crontabs for 2 users |
| 15:01.17 | TandyUK | in /etc/aliases, both users forward mail to the same address |
| 15:01.35 | TandyUK | im gettign emails from root's crons, but not from james' |
| 15:02.00 | petn-randall | TandyUK: Did you run 'postalias /etc/aliases' after updating that file? |
| 15:02.02 | TandyUK | when logged in as james, i can "mail -s subject email@addy" and it gets delivered |
| 15:02.07 | greycat | Are you sure both of them actually *produce* output? |
| 15:02.09 | TandyUK | ah i ran newaliases |
| 15:02.18 | TandyUK | yes the cron job defineitly gives output |
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| 15:02.37 | jhutchins_wk | TandyUK: Does the output get delivered to james? |
| 15:02.54 | TandyUK | its james crontab so yes |
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| 15:03.14 | TandyUK | i dont have 'postalias' |
| 15:03.22 | TandyUK | debian 8 this is |
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| 15:04.24 | TandyUK | im watching my mailservers logs, it doesnt appear that james' crontab is even sending a mail (or trying to) |
| 15:04.51 | TandyUK | this is defined in /etc/cron.d/filename |
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| 15:04.58 | greycat | Create a new job that simply does "echo hello world" and runs in the next couple minutes, and see if that one produces a mail. |
| 15:05.04 | TandyUK | * * * * * james /opt/observium/adslsynccheck.php |
| 15:05.16 | TandyUK | that DOES give output, so no idea why im not seeingit |
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| 15:06.02 | greycat | Are you sure it runs at all? The . in the filename... |
| 15:06.15 | TandyUK | added * * * * * james echo hello world |
| 15:06.35 | TandyUK | yeah theres like 15 other cronjobs defined in that file |
| 15:06.38 | TandyUK | all of which run |
| 15:07.30 | themill | TandyUK: do you have MAILTO= in your user's crontab? |
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| 15:08.08 | mquin | Can you succesfully run it as 'james' outside of cron? Does it depend on any environment variables, or try to run any external commands? |
| 15:08.13 | greycat | He's apparently using files in /etc/cron.d/ not individual crontabs. |
| 15:08.17 | TandyUK | no, but then neither does root, and im getting mails fro mroots crontabs |
| 15:08.44 | greycat | Or rather, one gigantic file in /etc/cron.d/ instead of one file per job, god only knows why, what he's doing... |
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| 15:10.01 | TandyUK | all the crons are for the same service (observium) |
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| 15:10.51 | greycat | The first thing is to find out whether the job is actually running *at all*. It should create a log entry somewhere in /var/log/ if/when it does run. |
| 15:11.09 | TandyUK | yeah im watching cron.log atm |
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| 15:11.24 | TandyUK | and wtf is all i can say "Error: bad username; while reading /etc/cron.d/observium" |
| 15:11.24 | themill | TandyUK: mail should go to the owner of the crontab not the user it ran as btw |
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| 15:11.32 | greycat | Second thing is to test user "james" ability to receive email. Send mail from james to james. See where it goes. |
| 15:11.50 | TandyUK | james is forwarded to my external mail, which gets delivered |
| 15:12.28 | greycat | Third thing is to see whether the cron job runs *correctly* in the cron environment. Maybe you've forgotten to give it +x permissions, or a proper shebang. |
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| 15:12.47 | TandyUK | the problem is "Error: bad username; while reading /etc/cron.d/observium" |
| 15:12.56 | greycat | Maybe it relies on stdin being a tty, or the TERM variable being set, or some other environmental thing that won't be present in cron. |
| 15:13.05 | TandyUK | and nfi why, its running as the same user as every other entry in there |
| 15:13.43 | TandyUK | ah ffs, it was a previous cron edit that was wrong |
| 15:13.50 | TandyUK | nothign to do with what ive just added |
| 15:14.24 | TandyUK | lo and behold i suddenly have mail |
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| 15:28.54 | boodie | Hi (Jessie): I am dist-upgrading ... it says "Only one display manager can manage a given X server, but multiple display manager packages are installed. Please select which display manager should run by default" and it offers gdm3 / lightdm / sddm ... which should I choose? |
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| 15:30.39 | babilen | boodie: Which one do you want to use? |
| 15:30.44 | towo` | boodie, it's your choice |
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| 15:31.59 | Ormu | no issues with the intel driver yet :o |
| 15:32.23 | boodie | No idea ... at the moment I have Xfce, if it makes any sense, but it's a window manager, I understand |
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| 15:33.20 | Ormu | lightdm is the usual option for Xfce desktop |
| 15:33.29 | boodie | OK, thanx! |
| 15:34.46 | aladeen | hello i'm a beginner debian user. I can't login with graphic desktop becouse the hdd is full. I don't know why. Before few days the hdd was almost empty in this time full. |
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| 15:35.12 | aladeen | what can i do whit this problem |
| 15:35.36 | jhutchins_wk | boodie: You could uninstall the ones you don't use. |
| 15:35.50 | jhutchins_wk | boodie: Sometimes gdm is useful for things that rely on gnome authentication. |
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| 15:36.51 | Marthsoul | Hello, looking for help with samba - my configuration file is - https://pastebin.com/pakwA3VL When I am trying to connect from windows its asking me for autoryzation via login and password, what to to do connect without it ? |
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| 15:37.11 | jelly | aladeen, run "df", take note which filesystem is full. The try to do "apt-get clean" as root, for a start, run "df" again and see if there's any difference |
| 15:38.09 | aladeen | i tried this solution but happened nothing |
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| 15:39.00 | greycat | Finding out where the big files are is an art form, not a recipe. |
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| 15:39.20 | greycat | You typically *guess* places that are likely to have unexpected/unwated large files, and you look in those places, and see if you guessed correctly. |
| 15:39.37 | greycat | Such places include /var/tmp and /tmp and /home/youruser and /var/log ... |
| 15:39.55 | jhutchins_wk | aladeen: Since we don't know what your system is running, we don't know what's likely to be taking up space. If it filled up over a short period of time, I would suspect that something is logging a lot. |
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| 15:40.43 | jhutchins_wk | aladeen: One thing that is likely to free up at least a little bit of space is to run logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf |
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| 15:44.07 | jelly | aladeen, okay, can you pastebin the output of df |
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| 15:44.16 | boodie | It seems that the dist-upgrade was completed, giving the usual error message regarding android-androresolvd - http://paste.debian.net/979089/ |
| 15:44.39 | boodie | I should reboot and see what happened ... fingers crossed |
| 15:44.57 | aladeen | the problem is in the /var folder |
| 15:45.15 | aladeen | it's size 450Gb |
| 15:45.24 | greycat | cd /var ; du -sk * |
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| 15:45.46 | greycat | or -sh if you prefer that |
| 15:46.20 | jelly | finds du -s a waste of iops, traverses all the fs tree, then reports just top level |
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| 15:46.45 | jelly | I usually something like "du -x /var > /dev/shm/du-x-var.txt", then sort -n /dev/shm/du-x-var.txt | tail |
| 15:46.55 | greycat | Ideally the directory info will be cached at that point, so subsequent du's inside subdirs will go quickly. |
| 15:47.49 | jelly | except when you have millions of small files instead of a small number of huge ones |
| 15:48.25 | greycat | As I said, it's an art form. If it gets "stuck" on something then I just Ctrl-C it. |
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| 15:48.35 | jelly | that's what -x is for |
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| 15:49.56 | aladeen | ahhha the problem in the var/log/cups/error_log file |
| 15:50.11 | greycat | good work finding it |
| 15:50.18 | aladeen | thanks guy |
| 15:50.39 | Marthsoul | Hello, looking for help with samba - my configuration file is - https://pastebin.com/pakwA3VL When I am trying to connect from windows its asking me for autoryzation via login and password, what to to do connect without it ? |
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| 15:53.48 | aladeen | thanks for everyone |
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| 15:54.12 | eugenmayer | jelly: any way you know, how this is done properly in debian stretch ? https://github.com/chef/bento/blob/master/scripts/debian/networking.sh#L6 is about disabling the generation of udev-rules ( mac mapping ) but its not about the new strict naming. Creating a folder there gets into initramfs way: https://github.com/chef/bento/issues/851 |
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| 15:54.41 | eugenmayer | jelly: when i am reading the docs right, symlinking /dev/null to /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules is what shall be done? |
| 15:54.42 | jaami | my debian does not follow my instructions because i removed every sign of firefox from my system. please give me exact link for net install iso so i can re install debian |
| 15:54.54 | jelly | eugenmayer, I think 70-persistent-net.rules doesn't even get generated on a fresh stretch at all? |
| 15:55.16 | eugenmayer | jelly: is strict nic naming opt in or opt out on fresh installs? |
| 15:55.29 | eugenmayer | if it is opt out, i guess those files will not be generated, yes |
| 15:55.42 | jelly | predictable iface names are default with new installs |
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| 15:55.50 | jhutchins_wk | eugenmayer: I think the idea is that the new naming convention makes the lock-down of MAC id's unnecessary. |
| 15:56.04 | jelly | eugenmayer, I wouldn't call it "strict" :> |
| 15:56.23 | jelly | (or predictable really) |
| 15:57.01 | jelly | (it's only as predictable as your PCI/USB device layout) |
| 15:57.26 | eugenmayer | jelly: how would i opt out properly from that, the grub command line only? net.ifname=0 ? |
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| 15:57.54 | jaami | i am next in queue |
| 15:58.00 | eugenmayer | jelly: i think the vagrant devs / bento guys do want to stay with eth0 for now, so i would opt out in that PR |
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| 15:59.32 | jaami | and ? |
| 16:00.10 | jelly | eugenmayer, sure, that's what I do for our VMs as well. |
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| 16:00.24 | jelly | our jessies didn't even systemd. |
| 16:01.01 | jaami | please give me correct link for the debian netinstall iso. and please dont give me the one that will not work |
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| 16:01.21 | towo` | jaami, https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 16:01.23 | eugenmayer | jelly: you opt out using grub also? |
| 16:01.29 | jelly | jaami, where did you install it from last time? Did you need non-free firmware or not? |
| 16:01.48 | jelly | eugenmayer, grub is just fine. |
| 16:02.00 | jelly | we have a separate small disk just for grub! |
| 16:02.03 | jelly | and /boot |
| 16:02.10 | jaami | jelly , i got help from someone i dont remember his name. |
| 16:02.26 | jelly | jaami, do you have a laptop or a wireless card |
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| 16:02.57 | jaami | the iso i download from debian site never work for me, i have tried 2 times already |
| 16:03.11 | jaami | jelly , yes, laptop wih wifi card |
| 16:03.13 | greycat | !firmware image |
| 16:03.13 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>. |
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| 16:03.57 | jelly | jaami, download netinst from there, then. ^^ amd64 -> iso-cd -> firmware blah blah iso |
| 16:04.27 | hexnewbie | On Stretch, how do you start a samba domain controller? Starting samba.service fails, because nmbd fails with an error - the error is that I shouldn't start nmbd, but samba instead |
| 16:04.32 | towo` | jaami, wget -Nc https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.1.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso should work |
| 16:04.36 | hexnewbie | âYou should start 'samba' instead, and it will control starting the internal nbt serverâ |
| 16:04.50 | hexnewbie | How do I start samba instead of samba.service, LOL? |
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| 16:05.11 | towo` | hexnewbie, you should start smbd, not samba |
| 16:05.25 | jaami | jelly , yes, one question, amd64 is good for intel i7? |
| 16:05.32 | greycat | jaami: yes |
| 16:05.34 | towo` | yes, it is |
| 16:05.49 | jaami | oh ok, ty everybody for the help |
| 16:05.53 | greycat | Intel copied the amd64 architecture. |
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| 16:06.03 | hexnewbie | towo`: smbd also fails with the exact same error - You should start 'samba' instead, and it will control starting smbd if required |
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| 16:06.40 | towo` | hexnewbie, stretch? |
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| 16:06.46 | hexnewbie | towo`: Yes |
| 16:07.02 | jaami | ohhh, amd64 is parent of intel. really, i had bad experience with amd processors. it get slower when heated. |
| 16:07.06 | greycat | My stretch machine with samba installed has an smbd.service and an nmbd.service running, and "systemctl status samba" says it's masked. |
| 16:07.13 | patr | Has debian now live cd sidtributions? |
| 16:07.26 | jelly | !live |
| 16:07.27 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. See also <live firmware>. For Debian 8 "Jessie", you CANNOT install in <UEFI> mode from a Debian Live image. See <live stretch>. |
| 16:07.55 | patr | Is the ryzen cpu supportet by strech? |
| 16:07.56 | greycat | The Live CDs are known to have issues if you try to install with them. Use the netinst or the full DVD image. |
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| 16:08.25 | eugenmayer | jelly: thank you! |
| 16:08.29 | jelly | cheers |
| 16:08.41 | patr | I tested it wwith ubuntu 17.10 beta release |
| 16:08.49 | hexnewbie | towo`: Oh. I figured it out. I need to start samba-ad-dc |
| 16:09.05 | patr | and that is not so good |
| 16:09.28 | eugenmayer | jelly: there is still a lot of work to get all the packer / chef / cloud images up to speed with stretch |
| 16:09.51 | jelly | patr, if you want excellent linux support, wait a year before buying a new platform |
| 16:10.00 | jelly | (never buy latest) |
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| 16:10.40 | patr | jelly the support is not so good |
| 16:10.57 | towo` | hexnewbie, i was wrong since i'm on unstable, there ist samba-ad-dc.service masked and smbd has to be used |
| 16:10.57 | patr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:11.11 | patr | but it is not stable enough |
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| 16:11.36 | hexnewbie | towo`: It was masked. I unmasked it. :S |
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| 16:12.09 | towo` | hexnewbie, on sid samba starts fine with the smbd service |
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| 16:14.18 | patr | hallo treaki |
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| 16:40.13 | Cerebr0 | Hi there ! I was wondering, what are the main changes with stretch becoming the stable version ? |
| 16:40.39 | nkuttler | Cerebr0: what do you mean? see the release notes? |
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| 16:41.17 | Cerebr0 | I just don't really get it |
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| 16:41.44 | Cerebr0 | Is the system changing, like the OS itself ? or is it just new packages added to the (maybe a bit changed) OS ? |
| 16:42.46 | boodie | Hi (Stretch): I managed to successfully upgrade, everything seems to work. Thanks to everybody for help & patience. |
| 16:42.57 | boodie | One couple of minor quirks; 1) firefox seems in trouble with the video contents (youtube). I deactivated flash and it loads the content, but briefly afterwards the video freezes, while the sound keeps going. |
| 16:43.02 | boodie | 2) In aptitude I see chromium as updatable package, but it has conflicts. The current version of chromium installed works, though and shows video content with audio no problem |
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| 16:44.29 | mvaenskae | cheers, how would i best execute an arm-binary in debian? using qemu in some mode i gather |
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| 16:53.36 | mvaenskae | ah, i am a derp, i have a pi3 running some linux... issue solved :) |
| 16:53.53 | BCMM | mvaenskae: there is user-mode qemu, but unless that binary is statically linked, you're likely to have to jump through some hoops |
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| 16:54.36 | BCMM | mvaenskae: i.e. you will also need any ARM libraries it links against, and to fiddle with paths to make it find those libraries |
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| 16:54.55 | mvaenskae | so i think my approach with the pi is the quickest way to get things working for a single binary |
| 16:55.16 | BCMM | mvaenskae: i mean, there's a lot of different sorts of ARM |
| 16:55.26 | mvaenskae | true |
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| 16:55.48 | BCMM | mvaenskae: if its not built for the same OS and arch you're running on the pi it still might not work. can you give any more information about this binary? |
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| 16:57.07 | mvaenskae | i can build it from source; i was able to cross-compile it and such and was quite stumped then on how to run it |
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| 16:58.04 | BCMM | mvaenskae: ah, that's OK then! you'll have the necessary arm libs to run it somewhere in the system you used to cross-compile it |
| 16:58.16 | BCMM | mvaenskae: you need the debian package qemu-user |
| 16:59.01 | BCMM | you can execute it using qemu-arm (as opposed to qemu-system-arm, which emulates an entire machine complete with OS) |
| 16:59.05 | mvaenskae | so basically follow this guide here? https://wiki.debian.org/QemuUserEmulation |
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| 16:59.29 | BCMM | and you will need to set the appropriate directory in QEMU_LD_PREFIX |
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| 17:00.10 | BCMM | mvaenskae: i've not read that, or done that before on debian |
| 17:00.31 | BCMM | is that guide similar to how you got the ARM toolchain you built this binary with? |
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| 17:01.43 | mvaenskae | the guide i linked is what i would have run; the guide i followed for cross-compiling was a different one |
| 17:02.03 | BCMM | ah, i see. that guide is using the awesome binfmt_misc system rather than calling qemu-arm manually |
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| 17:02.46 | BCMM | i was talking about running qemu-arm with appropriate params to execute the binary; with this guide, you will just do ./a.out and Linux will magically work out that it needs to use qemu to execute it |
| 17:04.11 | BCMM | mvaenskae: i was asking if the guide overlapped with what you've already done, like the dpkg-cross bits for example |
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| 17:04.41 | BCMM | mvaenskae: you presumably already have an arm libc, and should try to run the binary with the one you used to build it |
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| 17:13.26 | boodie | Hi (Stretch); after the upgrade from jessie I am left with a dependency conflict (chromium) ... what is the best way to sort it out? |
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| 17:26.47 | patr | What do you think is a epyc processor to use with debian linux? |
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| 17:29.39 | teraflops | AARCH64 |
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| 17:46.05 | tw | Is there a device enumeration thing for aarch64 that doesn't require manual devicetree setup with a generic kernel? |
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| 17:47.10 | teraflops | idk |
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| 17:56.22 | jdennis1 | I've noticed a few times when I do an apt-get upgrade on a kvm guest and it's host (both debian Jessie) that the guest end's up with an apt-get upgrade process that stopped in the middle and I have to re-run it. Also this time it happened, I also ended up with a corrupt mysql rely log file. |
| 17:57.09 | jdennis1 | is there a best practice or something I should be doing here to avoid that? Like shutting down guests before doing an apt-get upgrade on the host? I feel confident I didn't reboot the host while the guest was still updating. |
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| 18:02.37 | jhutchins_wk | jdennis1: I would at the very least avoid updating both the host and the guest at the same time. |
| 18:03.13 | jhutchins_wk | jdennis1: Some services get restarted on some updates, that could be what's tripping your guests, so shutting them down while upgrading the host is probably a good idea. |
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| 18:21.42 | vwill | hi all |
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| 18:23.25 | jdennis1 | jhutchins_wk: thanks for the response |
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| 18:26.26 | eugenmayer1 | is there any way to opt out from persistent nic names using a preseed file ( like setting cmd_linux in a preseed )_? |
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| 18:40.43 | agowa338 | I've a problem with dpkg. I'm trying to run "dpkg --configure -a" and I receive "dpkg: error: error creating new backup file '/var/lib/dpkg/status-old': Operation not permitted." How can I fix this? |
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| 18:44.54 | Brigo | agowa338, it looks like dpkg can't write there. Is the disk full? |
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| 18:45.53 | agowa338 | no, the disk is not full, I even can touch to create that file, but it still fails. |
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| 18:46.13 | agowa338 | But I should say, that it is running within an nspawn container |
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| 18:49.48 | BlackBishop | any simple way to get a vnc on my :0 screen as soon as X starts !? |
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| 18:55.02 | agowa338 | Brigo: ok, found the problem it is systemd related... the some files (not that from the error message) were generated with uid and gid 0 on the host (so they were owned by nobody within the nspawn container), so the namespace mapping seams to have failed. |
| 18:55.47 | agowa338 | Brigo: Now I'm going to delete and regenerate that container. The whole filesystem is messed up because of that. |
| 18:56.25 | stefano_ | hello guys |
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| 18:58.01 | Brigo | agowa338, a lot of fun :) |
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| 18:58.48 | stefano_ | I installed debian next to windows 10 few days ago. Windows uses 250 gb, debian 90. I just realized i love my debian too much, after an hard work it works perfectly! despite mesa drivers are a lil bit slower, i'd still like to move more things to it, also available on linux steam games |
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| 18:59.12 | stefano_ | the fact is that, as u can guess, 90 gb are too little to install good games |
| 18:59.23 | jmcnaught | agowa338: i had that happen to me a few weeks ago then i couldn't reproduce it. Are you using --private-users-chown or -U? |
| 18:59.24 | stefano_ | soooo |
| 18:59.29 | agowa338 | Brigo: thanks, but without knowing the root cause it seams somewhat unreliable to me. So I'll try recreating the problem to find the exact root cause. |
| 18:59.36 | stefano_ | how can i enlarge my debian installation? |
| 18:59.46 | mutante | stefano_: delete Windows and you have 250G for games :) |
| 19:00.16 | mutante | stefano_: well, if you selected "with LVM" during install then resizing is much easier |
| 19:00.32 | _rubik | stefano_: Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but you are not able to resize the drive unless you used an LVM |
| 19:00.43 | mutante | you can add a second drive though |
| 19:00.43 | stree | second |
| 19:00.48 | stefano_ | mutante: are u italian? (seen your name) actually i need windows too so cannot delete it ahah |
| 19:00.48 | jhutchins_wk | stefano_: it's possible to shrink the Windows partition and grow the linux partition. |
| 19:00.52 | agowa338 | stefano_: boot up windows (if bitlocker encrypted) shrink your partition than delete the linux partition and reinstall. |
| 19:00.56 | stefano_ | oh damn |
| 19:01.05 | stefano_ | it didn't ask me if i wanted to use lvm :( |
| 19:01.11 | agowa338 | or buy a second hard drive |
| 19:01.16 | stefano_ | damn |
| 19:01.16 | jhutchins_wk | stefano_: You need to have a backup of anything you can't just reinstall, because things can go wrong in the process. |
| 19:01.23 | mutante | stefano_: in the auto-partioning step it should say something like "encrypted with LVM" |
| 19:01.35 | _rubik | stefano_: It should have asked you if you wanted a logical volume during the install. |
| 19:01.48 | stefano_ | mutante: i know. installing it to an empty hdd it asked me, not this time. |
| 19:01.52 | jhutchins_wk | stefano_: You can still resize partitions, but you they need to be unmounted (boot to live CD). |
| 19:02.02 | mutante | stefano_: not Italian :) and yea, what jhutchins_wk said |
| 19:02.13 | stefano_ | jhutchins_wk: that's a good news |
| 19:02.18 | stefano_ | thank you guys! |
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| 19:02.27 | jhutchins_wk | stefano_: The most common thing to go wrong is "Oops" - human error. |
| 19:02.38 | BlackBishop | I tried this to get the vnc get up when gdm starts .. |
| 19:02.40 | BlackBishop | https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/5QngTaTcQWO7XmHFdjZCTw |
| 19:02.41 | agowa338 | you also could install onto an usb (recommending usb 3.0 sticks) ;-) |
| 19:02.48 | stefano_ | jhutchins_wk: i know ahah |
| 19:03.03 | stefano_ | agowa338: and for me? i don't have 3.0 :P |
| 19:03.26 | agowa338 | than use 2.0 with copy to ram boot loader parameter and overlay fs |
| 19:03.31 | stree | thats automatic overlay |
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| 19:04.18 | agowa338 | BlackBishop: Why use vnc? Isn't ssh and/or xpra an alternative? |
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| 19:04.44 | jmcnaught | BlackBishop: are you using upstart? why edit files in /etc/init? |
| 19:05.14 | stefano_ | https://pastebin.com/6BVqn2m9 i didn't really understand how to see if it's lvm or not from here. any idea? |
| 19:05.48 | BlackBishop | agowa338: not my choice to make. and hard to change the user's mind. |
| 19:06.10 | BlackBishop | jmcnaught: debian 8.8 so .. no :/ where should I change it then ? |
| 19:06.25 | BlackBishop | I guess /etc/gdm3/Init/Default before the exit 0 would work ! :/ any other pretty way ? |
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| 19:08.12 | agowa338 | BlackBishop: From an users perspective xpra is better, because it looks like the app would be running locally. |
| 19:08.43 | BlackBishop | agowa338: good luck trying to convince old people to try new stuff :| |
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| 19:09.00 | BlackBishop | if it would up to me I'd recommend X forwarding and no root login |
| 19:09.08 | BlackBishop | but .. again, not my choice to make. |
| 19:09.14 | jmcnaught | BlackBishop: look at "man gdm3" for what gdm3 tries to execute. the files in /etc/init are for upstart which is a discontinued init replacement. |
| 19:09.22 | BlackBishop | ok |
| 19:09.33 | agowa338 | BlackBishop: I convinced people switching from xp to windows 7 and windows 10, so I know what you're facing right now ;-) |
| 19:09.52 | tw | does xpra still leak server-side memory? |
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| 19:10.52 | agowa338 | tw: I haven't noticed that recently, so I think not? |
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| 19:11.42 | tw | You'd notice. After a day, it'd be >1GB RES for something semi-static. |
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| 19:12.17 | tw | So must be mostly fixed. |
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| 19:12.45 | stefano_ | can i see if a disk is lvm from disk management? |
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| 19:12.53 | Vasistha | I have a thinkpad w500 running jessie (oldstable). If I bring up xev, I can see key press events for the volume-up and volume-down keys, but not for mute. Mute used to work before I upgraded to jessie (some time ago). Any idea what I can do to make the mute button work? |
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| 19:14.19 | agowa338 | stefano_: if you mean the windows one no, from the linux one it would say it is lvm ;-) |
| 19:14.45 | stefano_ | agowa338: were exactly. if there isn't at all means it's not? :( |
| 19:15.34 | carp | Hi. If a person accidently were to type in their password into the terminal and press enter, it is now easily visible. What would you recommend? Should the person try to remove this command from 'history' as it were. |
| 19:16.00 | mr__tea | I recommend to change the password |
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| 19:17.19 | agowa338 | stefano_: "fdisk /dev/sda" => p => Spalte Typ |
| 19:17.20 | teraflops | carp: the issue I see more is people typing their password in the user prompt either on tty or DM |
| 19:17.37 | teraflops | and it's shown in logs obv |
| 19:18.03 | agowa338 | carp: change the password and go ahead |
| 19:18.05 | carp | The computer is just a personal computer, and only one user. Is it still a security risk? |
| 19:18.52 | mr__tea | carp: heh just change the password :D |
| 19:18.52 | teraflops | it wont hurt if you change your passwd, but I dont think is an issue |
| 19:19.09 | mr__tea | good practice. |
| 19:19.38 | carp | Yeah, a good idea to do that. Thanks for the tips guys. |
| 19:19.51 | Vasistha | carp: history -c will clear your entire history, or you can use history -d with a particular line number to delete one entry. help history |
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| 19:21.48 | carp | Vasistha: thanks |
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| 19:53.53 | jhutchins_wk | carp: It's a pretty narrow security list. |
| 19:54.21 | jhutchins_wk | carp: "Change the password" is the correct action, but "Oh well" is almost as good in your case. |
| 19:55.03 | jhutchins_wk | carp: Someone would have to get access to the system and be able to read the .history file in your $HOME, which would suggest they didn't need your password anyway. |
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| 20:04.15 | carmelo11 | sensors | egrep "temp1|temp2|temp3" | cut -c 16-19 | tr '\r' '\t' >> temp.txt |
| 20:04.52 | carmelo11 | ops I wrong |
| 20:04.59 | carmelo11 | sensors | egrep "temp1|temp2|temp3" | cut -c 16-19 | tr '\n' '\t' >> temp.txt |
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| 20:05.19 | carmelo11 | echo -e "\r" >> temp.txt |
| 20:05.33 | carmelo11 | I have to write to a file, the following column values, each value must be separated from a tab. The code works the problem is that at the end of temp3 is printed a tab and also every time I run the code I also run "echo ..." |
| 20:05.54 | abrotman | carmelo11: use sed, trim off the last one |
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| 20:06.47 | greycat | Why are you appending a carriage return + newline to the file? |
| 20:07.00 | carmelo11 | abrotman Then the code as it would be? |
| 20:07.23 | greycat | Are you sending the file to a Windows system? |
| 20:08.14 | carmelo11 | greycat no I use debian |
| 20:08.19 | greycat | Why are you appending a carriage return + newline to the file? |
| 20:09.15 | carmelo11 | greycat Because otherwise I write more than three values in the same column |
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| 20:09.54 | greycat | mapfile -t a < <(sensors | grep 'temp[123]' | cut -c16-19); IFS=$'\t'; echo "${a[*]}"; unset IFS |
| 20:10.25 | greycat | I will just assume your answer was "Because I don't know what the hell I'm doing." Because \r is useless. |
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| 20:11.27 | carmelo11 | The correct output must be: 40.0 tab 45.0 tab 55.0 new line |
| 20:12.36 | greycat | Then use mine, not yours. |
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| 20:12.53 | greycat | Yours was 40.0 tab 45.0 tab 55.0 tab carriage return new line |
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| 20:13.30 | Spec | greycat: wow |
| 20:13.53 | Spec | mapfile instead of awk looks so grand |
| 20:14.10 | carmelo11 | Yes, my is: 40.0 tab 45.0 tab 55.0 tab carriage return new line |
| 20:14.55 | Hiro1 | is anyone here familiar with debian cluster environments? |
| 20:15.15 | abrotman | greycat: you're going to break him :) |
| 20:16.12 | carmelo11 | greycat I would avoid using IFS and mapfile, something simpler and easier to read |
| 20:16.22 | greycat | Spec: Could probably be improved more but I'd have to see the actual output of "sensors", so it wasn't worthwhile. |
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| 20:16.40 | greycat | carmelo11: Make it correct first. THEN make it elegant. |
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| 20:17.17 | greycat | It is absolutely useless to write a bunch of elegant code that is wrong. |
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| 20:19.46 | Spec | greycat: i've never seen mapfile before :) |
| 20:19.48 | carmelo11 | greycat But with sed you can do something? |
| 20:19.54 | Spec | but it's a builtin so that's +1 |
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| 20:23.42 | greycat | Spec: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/005 |
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| 20:26.25 | Spec | greycat: i have used some of these things, but have always used awk when mapfile obviously would have worked better even |
| 20:26.43 | Spec | so thanks :) |
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| 22:35.17 | ksk | Hey. im running debian 8 inside ubuntu lxd and having problems with some getty* services I cannot really identify: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/9184e230/ |
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| 22:36.11 | ksk | as I understand that service is trying to create that ttys and is having problems? Any Idea how to fix that? -- On the other hand, do I need a tty in a CT at all? |
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| 22:45.20 | Mr-irc-worldwide | Hi guys |
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| 22:45.54 | Mr-irc-worldwide | Hi cabanas I |
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| 23:01.11 | Mr-irc-worldwide | Hihihi |
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| 23:12.27 | _root_ | hi |
| 23:12.28 | _root_ | I flush all of my iptables rules and I confirm I have nothing in there by the **iptables -L** command just to see it returns to what was in there in a matter of seconds. Why? |
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| 23:18.45 | petn-randall | _root_: That's not what happens on a default Debian machine. |
| 23:19.00 | petn-randall | _root_: What distro are you running? |
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| 23:22.50 | _root_ | debian |
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| 23:25.20 | petn-randall | _root_: And what service did you install that automatically re-instates the firewall? |
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| 23:26.58 | petn-randall | _root_: How are you flushing the iptables rules though? |
| 23:27.56 | _root_ | https://serverfault.com/a/497448/381661 |
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| 23:29.47 | _root_ | petn-randall, it is an script |
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| 23:41.24 | farmer | Hi all. I have been pulling my hair out. I can PSAD to work locally on my machine. But when im trying to implement it into a Jessie server it seems to fail to make the iptable rules for banning. I can see the iptable logs in the syslog also. Any ideas? |
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| 23:56.19 | wjtaylor | is there a way to recursively set all directories to 755 and all files to 640? |
| 23:56.49 | badargo | hey! when i type whatis fdisk i get a return, but which fdisk, type fdisk, fdisk --help, help fdisk, and even fdisk command dont return. so whats going on? is it uninstalled? i looked for apt search fdisk but couldnt find one either :S |
| 23:57.50 | badargo | wjtaylor: u could set the umask value like that |
| 23:58.19 | badargo | then if u try to give all files a permission above umask value they would be set like that i supose |
| 23:58.36 | wjtaylor | Is there a way to recursively set all directories to 755 and all files to 640? |
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| 23:59.32 | Brigo | badargo, it seems to me fdisk is unintalled or out of the path |
| 23:59.54 | dsc_ | wjtaylor: find /my_directory/ -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; |
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