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| 00:26.45 | rigel | so i'm interested in helping package LXD. ive read the packaging guide, and read the ITP thread, but it's not clear to me where i might find out what work has already been done, given that it has been nearly a year since a significant useful-progress post has been made to the bug/ticket. im unclear about the etiquette surrounding just emailing developers on the list about helping, since i am a noob to much |
| 00:26.51 | rigel | of this stuff. any input would be appreciated. |
| 00:27.55 | rigel | there is a wiki article, but the whole packaging process has had to be restarted once already, so i'm not clear how much of that still applies |
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| 00:45.58 | random_numbers | So, how does the process of adding a package, written for example in Python3, to Debian go? The part where stuff gets on alioth and gets the buildpackage files added is what I'm not clear on. |
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| 01:35.47 | jmcnaught | gartt: there's a newer version of ring in stretch-backports by the way |
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| 01:46.24 | r_rios | Hello, all. I just tried to boot into Debian KDE live, but I didn't get past Plasma's splash screen. It seems that the video driver crashes for some reason. Also, in the boot menu, I didn't find a way to change the kernel flags. What can I do? At the moment, I'm running Jessie as my main system and I want to make sure Stretch works before trying to upgrade. |
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| 01:49.57 | random_numbers | Boot flags are changed by pressing e on grub, iirc. |
| 01:50.06 | random_numbers | As for drivers I'll let someone else answer. |
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| 01:51.25 | random_numbers | https://askubuntu.com/questions/19486/how-do-i-add-a-kernel-boot-parameter |
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| 01:52.00 | r_rios | I tried pressing e, but the live image menu doesn't seem to be grub |
| 01:52.13 | random_numbers | Hold down shift? |
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| 01:57.34 | random_numbers | I unfortunately don't have any of the cds at hand to test. |
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| 02:28.35 | Shmam | Hi everyone! For some reason Apper seems to crash every time I try to use it to install things. I downloaded a .deb package and clicked to install and apper didn't do anything. Is there something better that I should use to install .deb files? |
| 02:29.24 | random_numbers | Apper?? |
| 02:29.33 | random_numbers | Normally you install stuff using dpkg |
| 02:30.45 | Shmam | yeah I've been using dpkg on the command line but was hoping for a quicker way of doing things |
| 02:31.08 | Shmam | so like I can just click once it downloads from chrome and it will either install with some gui thing or just run dpkg |
| 02:35.10 | random_numbers | That's... probably possible. Some sort of bash-script launcher that'd hand the full-path of the file to the script. |
| 02:35.16 | random_numbers | s/bash/shell/ |
| 02:36.15 | r_rios | Shmam: QApt is better for single .deb files |
| 02:37.04 | Shmam | and is there a way to have it install the deps so that I don't have to manually go through them? |
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| 02:38.17 | random_numbers | Doesn't just installing with dpkg and then using apt-get install -f do teh trick? |
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| 02:39.00 | jmcnaught | how often are you installing random .debs anyways? |
| 02:39.22 | random_numbers | It's possibly a security issue. |
| 02:39.28 | random_numbers | To do so. |
| 02:40.30 | jmcnaught | every .deb package gets to run a script as root on your system, so just make sure you trust the origin, and that the software is in fact compiled for Debian and not some other distro that also uses .deb |
| 02:41.15 | random_numbers | Which would probably just lead to system breakage rather than intentional security compromise. |
| 02:41.24 | random_numbers | Still not very desirable. |
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| 02:43.27 | Shmam | So I'm trying to install https://gnunn1.github.io/tilix-web/. Should I be using the .deb or something else? |
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| 02:45.33 | jmcnaught | Shmam: that website says the package is in stretch-backports, did you look there? |
| 02:45.50 | jmcnaught | ,v tilix |
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| 02:45.52 | judd | Package: tilix on amd64 -- stretch-backports: 1.6.4-1~bpo9+1; buster: 1.6.4-1; sid: 1.6.4-1 |
| 02:45.57 | Shmam | Yeah that gives me the .deb |
| 02:46.05 | Shmam | that's what I'm trying to install |
| 02:46.39 | random_numbers | If it's backports you should just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and add backports to it. |
| 02:46.48 | jmcnaught | Shmam: you downloaded a .deb in your browser from the stretch-backports repo? why not just add backports to your sources.list and run "apt-get -t stretch-backports install tilix"? |
| 02:46.52 | random_numbers | Along with importing the needed gpg keys. |
| 02:49.09 | Shmam | woooooah sounds fancy! So I opened up my sources.list what do I need to add? |
| 02:51.03 | jmcnaught | Shmam: https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ you can use the same mirror as your other sources (you don't have to use the main ftp.debian.org in the example) |
| 02:51.26 | Shmam | looks like I already have that in my sources.list waow |
| 02:51.47 | Shmam | E: The value 'stretch-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
| 02:52.40 | jmcnaught | !bat |
| 02:52.40 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 02:52.57 | Shmam | Have this in sources.list: "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free" |
| 02:53.22 | dvs | I thought ftp wasn't being used anymore |
| 02:53.34 | jmcnaught | stretch-updates is not the same as stretch-backports |
| 02:53.35 | dvs | ah neverminds |
| 02:53.37 | random_numbers | It's http, the true ftp servers are indeed supposed to be dead. |
| 02:53.45 | Shmam | well shit |
| 02:54.22 | Shmam | This shows using ftp... https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 02:54.57 | dvs | Shmam, it's outdated |
| 02:55.01 | random_numbers | It's not an ftp. Legacy namescheme. But it indeed doesn't have the needed files. |
| 02:55.05 | random_numbers | Check it with your browser. |
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| 02:56.11 | random_numbers | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ seems to work. |
| 02:56.13 | Shmam | This one? "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free" |
| 02:56.44 | dvs | that's still a bit dated |
| 02:56.46 | Shmam | I get an error when trying to install packages form that one |
| 02:56.48 | jmcnaught | Shmam: are you on Debian 8 or Debian 9? |
| 02:57.24 | Shmam | 9 |
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| 02:57.42 | jmcnaught | Shmam: so you want stretch-backports, not jessie-backports |
| 02:57.52 | dvs | Shmam, then none of the lines should say "jessie" anymore |
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| 02:58.15 | Shmam | right the ones I have are stretch |
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| 02:58.35 | Shmam | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free |
| 02:58.39 | Shmam | thats what I have |
| 02:58.46 | dvs | and? |
| 02:59.30 | dvs | !tell Shmam about stretch sources.list |
| 02:59.46 | jmcnaught | Shmam: like I said earlier, updates is not the same word as backports |
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| 03:00.23 | jmcnaught | deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian stretch-backports main contrib non-free |
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| 03:04.32 | Shmam | seems to be working now |
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| 03:06.21 | jmcnaught | Shmam: nice. You might also want to check out https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian for some other stuff to watch out for and tips on installing stuff not available in Debian |
| 03:06.57 | Shmam | Yeah will do thanks :) |
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| 04:02.14 | lordarkmemo | Hi, im working with iptables. But everytime i restart th iptables load some rules that reject my traffic. I dont know how to erase those rules |
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| 04:03.26 | Rusty1_ | lordarkmemo: try #iptables or #netfilter if nobody here can help |
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| 04:05.02 | lordarkmemo | Rusty1_: thank you |
| 04:05.37 | ajbone | Would anyone be able to suggest an apple email address I can write to ask why they don't have an itunes for linux? I don't think they will care and I wouldn't expect a response but I'm just not going to feel right until its done. Thanks |
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| 04:22.56 | lordarkmemo | Rusty1_: Anybody help me :( |
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| 04:25.54 | ahmed751995 | excuse me, i installed debian 9 but i can't see Account Type in users in setting ? |
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| 04:34.54 | codebam | how do I fix this https://ptpb.pw/b-in.txt |
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| 04:36.54 | codebam | I need vim installed |
| 04:37.06 | codebam | I don't care if I use outdated packages, I just want it installed |
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| 04:38.22 | codebam | never mind, figured it out |
| 04:38.24 | codebam | used = |
| 04:38.43 | klys | codebam, take out your apt source that has vim 2:8.0.0197-5 in it, update, and install the things you listed. |
| 04:38.49 | klys | or that |
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| 04:39.01 | codebam | well it's because I'm on sid |
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| 04:39.20 | codebam | I did a dist-upgrade when I shouldn't have and it removed vim |
| 04:39.38 | klys | for sid there is a channel, #debian-next, irc.oftc.net |
| 04:39.47 | codebam | oh cool, I'll join that |
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| 04:39.49 | codebam | thanks |
| 04:39.53 | klys | sure |
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| 04:53.01 | Fox682 | Hey guys, anyone have any trouble installing Debian 9 in a Virtualbox |
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| 04:54.08 | iodev | Fox682: you mean errors? |
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| 04:54.48 | Fox682 | no errors, just after install it won't boot, just a black screen. I'm just using the regular Bios booting also. |
| 04:55.29 | iodev | did you use manual or guided install |
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| 04:58.32 | Fox682 | I've done both, same problem, install, boot, blank. |
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| 05:00.26 | Fox682 | I've even verified the sha256sum for the iso... so I'm sure I got all the bits right. |
| 05:01.00 | Fox682 | The live versions will boot and run without issues. |
| 05:02.52 | petn-randall | Fox682: Does the bootloader pop up? |
| 05:03.17 | petn-randall | Fox682: As in, do you see *anything* before the blank screen? |
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| 05:03.57 | Fox682 | yeah, I can select the regular boot options, tried running recovery mode, got the same thing, just more text before it went blank. |
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| 05:05.19 | iodev | Fox682: is there any text in the top-left corner |
| 05:05.23 | iodev | maybe login: |
| 05:05.49 | petn-randall | Fox682: Try booting into single user mode then, by adding "single" to the kernel command line in grub. |
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| 05:12.30 | Fox682 | it looks like it doesn't even get to the grub boot, just shows some text about the kernel on the top left and then nothing, pegs the CPU and sits there.. |
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| 05:15.20 | Fox682 | wait... nevermind, it goes to grub |
| 05:15.29 | darxmurf | morning all |
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| 05:16.35 | Fox682 | the recovery mode boots the system with the single option for the os |
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| 05:18.44 | Fox682 | it shows the linux version and initial ram disk, then nothing. |
| 05:19.05 | Fox682 | on the recovery mode, it'll stream some text... Let my try that. |
| 05:21.21 | Fox682 | yeah it runs for about 5.5 seconds the last entry is "write protecting the kernel read-only data: 1720k" last line is "loading please wait" and I've waited 15 minutes here too, now that I remember. |
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| 05:31.46 | pragomer | in debian9 xfce i always have to input both, username and pw, to light-locker, when screen is locked. in e.g. xubuntu the locked user is kind of "preselected". how can I get this behavior in debian? |
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| 05:46.57 | darxmurf | any idea of why I miss some folders when I mount a windows share using "mount.cifs -o vers=3.0" ? |
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| 05:53.36 | butteredpopcorn | probably server side permissions |
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| 05:55.25 | uxfi | hi butteredpopcorn |
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| 05:56.34 | butteredpopcorn | hola |
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| 05:59.27 | darxmurf | butteredpopcorn: the server is a windows 10 machine |
| 05:59.37 | darxmurf | everything is fine with vers=1.0 |
| 05:59.50 | darxmurf | some folders are missing with vers=2.x or 3.0 |
| 06:00.00 | darxmurf | access rights are fine on the windows machine |
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| 06:02.51 | butteredpopcorn | have you checked the file permissions |
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| 06:05.36 | butteredpopcorn | also how are you listing the files |
| 06:05.48 | butteredpopcorn | depending on the file explorer it could be hiding some files |
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| 06:15.19 | darxmurf | yep I checked |
| 06:15.32 | darxmurf | all permissions are inerhited from the mail folder |
| 06:15.38 | darxmurf | main |
| 06:16.33 | darxmurf | then I mount it using mount.cifs -o ro,vers=3.0,username=xxx,password=xxx //ip/folder /mntpoint |
| 06:16.52 | darxmurf | then when I ls the content of /mntpoint some folders are missing |
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| 06:17.05 | darxmurf | but not when I mount it with without forcing vers= |
| 06:17.37 | darxmurf | and by the way, with smbclient I can list everything even when I force the version 3 |
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| 06:19.12 | butteredpopcorn | is it only folders or files that are missing too |
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| 06:28.49 | pie3 | if any one needs any kind of support/help for repitive task, i am ready to work with you for any kind of coding/similar work/task |
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| 06:34.51 | darxmurf | butteredpopcorn: I would say folders |
| 06:35.07 | darxmurf | in the root |
| 06:36.04 | darxmurf | by the way I sent a bugreport |
| 06:36.06 | darxmurf | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=871779 |
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| 07:07.23 | zorin-os | how do i install the amdgpu drivers or at least get them to work without nomodeset |
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| 07:08.14 | zorin-os | as installing linux-firmware clang4-0 and llvm-4.0 didnt work |
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| 07:31.06 | dirgeable | hi, is it normal when i run htop to have a bunch of /usr/sbin/apache2 and /usr/sbin/mysqld running at the same time? |
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| 07:36.55 | Stummi | dirgeable, yes, since htop shows you all the threads created by an application |
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| 07:37.23 | dirgeable | ok thx |
| 07:37.29 | zorin-os | how do i install the amdgpu drivers or at least get them to work without nomodeset as installing linux-firmware clang4-0 and llvm-4.0 didnt work |
| 07:38.18 | Stummi | dirgeable, press shift+H to toggle it |
| 07:38.32 | dirgeable | thanks |
| 07:38.34 | zorin-os | and xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu-hwe-16.04/xenial-updates,now 1.3.0-0ubuntu1~16.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic] is shown |
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| 07:50.12 | nox_darkcore | hello :) Any can help me with my kernel problem? I am dont can install the drivers for nvidia geforce 5200fx. x.x |
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| 07:57.47 | hexhaxtron | Anyone experienced this? NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 22s! |
| 07:57.58 | hexhaxtron | The system frequently freezes... |
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| 08:19.13 | dionysus69 | hey |
| 08:20.30 | dionysus69 | gnome channel is pretty inactive right now, maybe someone knows what i need to do? I just want to create a systray icon that will have a checkbox and check and uncheck events will trigger two different systemctl --user actions, that's all. anyone knows how to do that or where can I find docs? I can't seem to find it on google, unsure what keywords to use |
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| 08:31.11 | oskie_ | cannot the world settle on writing the first name first? |
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| 08:36.24 | jim | hi... in the past, the release notes of the then-debian+1 would say, bring the debian up to date before altering sources.list to go to debian+1 (example, debian being jessie and debian+1 being stretch).... has that changed? |
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| 08:38.40 | petemc | jim: the steps required are detailed in the release notes. it can vary |
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| 08:56.28 | jim | petemc, got it... and, what I want to know is more specific than that: has the need to bring the previous dist (jessie in this case) up to date before moving past that to stretch become unnecessary? if so, what got fixed to make that happen? |
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| 08:58.00 | pldiem1 | hi, how to get the newest intel graphics drivers for debian 9 stretch? |
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| 09:07.51 | jim | pldiem1, drivers are generally part of the kernel, so maybe the answer is "upgrade the kernel"... not sure tho |
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| 09:22.36 | forcerecon | since doing away with ifconfig, which i generally liked the separation of things, is it default now to be using the IP command in debian? |
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| 09:24.34 | FinalX | forcerecon: yes, and so it should've been almost a decade already. ifconfig and related tools had been deprecated in the linux world for the better part of said decade already. they just stuck around in debian because people were used to them. |
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| 09:25.18 | FinalX | there was a page that listed ifconfig commands on the left and iproute2 equivalents on the right but can't find it atm |
| 09:25.40 | FinalX | hasn't been missing the ifconfig-family ever since he got to know iproute2 |
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| 09:31.00 | forcerecon | FinalX: thanks for information - link for anyone following thread - https://linoxide.com/linux-command/use-ip-command-linux/ just something simple to start with |
| 09:32.04 | FinalX | forcerecon: you can still install the tools for while you're getting the hang of it, by the way; it's just not installed by default anymore |
| 09:32.16 | FinalX | (apt install net-tools) |
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| 09:38.54 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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| 09:39.23 | forcerecon | morning BluesKaj |
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| 09:39.40 | BluesKaj | 'Morning forcerecon |
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| 09:40.51 | babilen | BluesKaj: It doesn't really scale for people to greet the channel on join, so it would be nice if you could do that in -offtopic :) |
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| 09:42.53 | BluesKaj | babilen, your response took up more space than my greeting ....pedantic over reaction methinks |
| 09:43.57 | babilen | Didn't we discuss this some time back? The essential difference is that your actions are recurrent while my statement holds true from now on |
| 09:44.17 | BluesKaj | BS |
| 09:48.11 | babilen | BluesKaj: Seriously, we addressed this two weeks ago and you should be well aware of it |
| 09:48.30 | BluesKaj | babilen, get a life |
| 09:49.50 | babilen | Please refrain from personal attacks, there is no need for it and this is a technical support and not a chat channel |
| 09:50.12 | babilen | So, please drop it and greet people in -offtopic |
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| 10:15.57 | phre4k | ok so a friend of mine wants to view some DRM crap with silverlight, can you link me a good comprehensive tutorial on that? |
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| 10:30.13 | nox-lineage | Hello :) |
| 10:32.20 | hiya | Hello :D |
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| 10:40.05 | BluesKaj | waits for the negative response |
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| 10:45.14 | BluesKaj | babilen, where are you now, 2 people just said hello |
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| 10:51.41 | forcerecon | Is anyone doing PGP encryption? |
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| 10:52.32 | babilen | BluesKaj: Just drop it |
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| 10:54.33 | apollo13 | forcerecon: it would be more useful if you asked a question which were a little bit less meta |
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| 10:55.59 | babilen | ^ |
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| 10:56.46 | forcerecon | apollo13: yeah I agree... uhm.. hmmm.. I was thinking that I would get involved with pgp encrypted email. Most of the reading I have done is from a couple years ago and I am unsure how to proceed. Does it make more sense to add pgp as stated in a document like this - https://www.deepdotweb.com/2015/02/17/basic-guide-pgp-linux/ or does it make more sense just to utilize a really secure email system like proton mail where they give you |
| 10:56.47 | forcerecon | your encryption and decrypt keys? |
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| 10:58.38 | apollo13 | I do not know proton mail -- I just use thunderbird + enigmail |
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| 10:59.21 | savantgarde | I'm looking for a suitable image to base a Fluentd Docker image off of, which should include journald with LZ4, do you guys have any recommendations? Preferably the image should be small |
| 10:59.49 | dokma | I'm trying to stick a Xeon X5460 into my LGA775 box. Anyone knows where to get the CPU microcodes that can be applied from Debian? |
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| 11:02.07 | babilen | forcerecon: Most (all?) email clients support GPG and I would start by creating a key and configuring your client. See https://keyring.debian.org/creating-key.html for some information |
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| 11:03.06 | babilen | dpkg: tell dokma -about microcode |
| 11:03.22 | babilen | dpkg: You are looking for intel-microcode |
| 11:03.23 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
| 11:03.30 | babilen | dokma: You are looking for intel-microcode |
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| 11:04.27 | dokma | babilen: these contain Xeon microcode? |
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| 11:05.49 | babilen | dokma: Yes -- See https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/26925/Linux-Processor-Microcode-Data-File (for example) |
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| 11:07.07 | dokma | babilen: Since I already have this installed all I need is to stick the modded Xeon in and reboot? |
| 11:07.48 | babilen | Indeed, you might also consider upgrading your boxes firmware as vendor supplied firmare bundles sometimes contain newer microcode |
| 11:08.30 | dokma | This would be something coming directly from Intel? |
| 11:09.21 | dokma | I'm going to try plug the Xeon in and reboot now. |
| 11:09.25 | dokma | I'll keep you posted. |
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| 11:16.20 | darxmurf | forcerecon: same here, t-bird + enigmail, it works quite well |
| 11:17.34 | phre4k | how do you watch silverlight stuff on Debian nowadays, I think pipelight uses NPAPI which is deprecated? |
| 11:18.24 | darxmurf | forcerecon: protonmail is using encrypted servers and all but their webmail does not offer the possibility to add PGP keys to encrypt/decrypt messages... which is, for me, a bit stupid ... |
| 11:19.33 | forcerecon | darxmurf: things must have changed.. they do offer the pgp key but it is 2048. They also do encrypted with password and timed self destruct. |
| 11:20.00 | forcerecon | I have an account with them and it is really quite a nice interface. I use Tor to connect.. |
| 11:20.28 | phre4k | forcerecon: why do you upload your PGP key to strangers' servers? |
| 11:21.00 | forcerecon | I don't.. they offer a public key for download |
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| 11:22.59 | phre4k | ok so why do you encrypt your mail with strangers' PGP keys? :D |
| 11:23.37 | forcerecon | because I trust protonmail.. |
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| 11:26.30 | tdn | I have a user who logs on via SFTP which is chroot'ed into a specific folder. However, when I try and log in authentication goes fine, but get this error: fatal: bad ownership or modes for chroot directory <path to user's home>. Where can I find the requirements for ownership and modes for this folder? |
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| 11:27.46 | darxmurf | forcerecon: yep but if I send an encrypted mail to you, can you read it from the webmail ? and encrypt your reply ? |
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| 11:34.19 | DK2 | when removing a hardrive that is in mdraid |
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| 11:34.25 | DK2 | do i need to remove it via mdraid first ? |
| 11:35.42 | forcerecon | darxmurf: based on this, seems like you can, but they seem to have added it and then removed it in version 3 but are putting it back once they make it better or something - https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/sending-a-message-using-pgppgp/ |
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| 11:39.15 | nicechap | Hi what does this crontab entry mean? 17-59/60 * * * * |
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| 11:44.13 | nstr | nicechap: https://crontab.guru/ |
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| 11:44.35 | nicechap | nstr: I didnt understand it âAt every 60th minute from 17 through 59." |
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| 11:45.08 | nicechap | every 60th minute from when the crontab is set?? |
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| 11:45.22 | themill | I'd assume it means "never" |
| 11:45.39 | darxmurf | I would say the same :D |
| 11:46.37 | nicechap | brrr really? |
| 11:47.02 | darxmurf | where did you find this ? |
| 11:47.24 | nicechap | on a server I am trying to understand.. it does run though at some point |
| 11:47.34 | nicechap | (I believe) |
| 11:47.56 | darxmurf | well, log the result somewhere and see if you get something :) |
| 11:48.09 | nicechap | i thought everyone here was a guru |
| 11:48.20 | nicechap | except me... |
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| 11:48.54 | darxmurf | you can be a cook guru but pretty bad with cron |
| 11:48.56 | darxmurf | but still a guru |
| 11:49.07 | darxmurf | :D |
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| 11:57.26 | jolt | You should see some cron output in syslog or messages I guess |
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| 12:12.06 | Agafnd | apt can't find nyquist despite it apparently being in the repos https://packages.debian.org/stretch/sound/nyquist |
| 12:12.12 | Agafnd | any idea why? |
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| 12:16.37 | darxmurf | what do you have in your sources.list ? |
| 12:17.27 | Agafnd | it looks like http://termbin.com/bcdg |
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| 12:17.54 | Agafnd | basically just the default file + a backports line I added ... yesterday ... |
| 12:17.57 | Agafnd | hm. |
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| 12:20.46 | darxmurf | is your mirror up to date ? |
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| 12:24.04 | Agafnd | aren't mirrors listed on https://www.debian.org/mirror/list usually up to date? |
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| 12:26.30 | nvz | does anyone know of a free dynamic dns service that works with the utilities in debian that I can use for simple access to a private network? |
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| 12:30.11 | apollo13 | https://www.nsupdate.info/ |
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| 12:30.26 | apollo13 | that said, what do you mean by access to a private network? |
| 12:30.32 | nvz | apollo13: have you used this with debian? |
| 12:30.37 | apollo13 | no |
| 12:30.57 | nvz | I plan to ssh into my father's computer from time to time |
| 12:31.04 | hellyeah | Debian has problem with broadcam wireless card i am sure |
| 12:31.11 | nvz | it'll be a lot easier if i have a hostname that doesnt change |
| 12:31.46 | apollo13 | nvz: a) most routers already support dyndns protocol out of the box, so you could utilize that, b) if your system allows for it I'd put it behind a vpn |
| 12:32.03 | apollo13 | I currently just have to do ssh home.vpn and it will utilize my ipsec network to $home |
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| 12:32.31 | crazyb0y | nvz: use connect back tool |
| 12:32.34 | nvz | this is whatever comcast gateway they give and the ip isn't likely going to change much |
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| 12:33.18 | apollo13 | well nsupdate.info will work fine then |
| 12:33.57 | nvz | last time I did this dyndns.org was still a free service and it worked well with both the tools in debian as well as the router firmware I had at the time |
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| 12:34.19 | apollo13 | yes, nsupdate.info is free and supports the dyndns 2 procotol |
| 12:34.52 | nvz | ah, ok. so does the router have to support it or can it be done from the debian box behind the router? |
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| 12:35.30 | nvz | I will of course need to setup a static ip and port forward on the inside |
| 12:35.42 | nvz | for the ssh, and I will setup keys while I'm there too |
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| 12:35.51 | hellyeah | My card seems work but it cannot recieve near wireless connection. Can you help me about it? |
| 12:36.17 | apollo13 | whatever you have been using with dyndns should still work (assuming you can change the provider there) |
| 12:36.47 | nvz | hellyeah: check dmesg, you may be missing firmware. You need to be more specific about the model of the card, interface it uses (internal/laptop, usb, etc) and the issue you're having |
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| 12:39.30 | hellyeah | Bm4313 broadcom wireless. Sometimes it couldnt find connections. I have laptop |
| 12:40.10 | hellyeah | Lots of networks bu no result |
| 12:40.23 | nvz | yes well I haven't used one of those in many years but last I did it sucked royally, noise calibration was terrible, they crippled the driver which is closed source, disabling several features. |
| 12:40.47 | nvz | again you will want to check dmesg, and perhaps /var/log/daemon.log to see if there are any clues as to what is going on |
| 12:41.22 | hellyeah | Dmesg said error @wl_cfg80211_scan wlc_scan error -22 |
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| 12:42.27 | hellyeah | Any clues? |
| 12:43.44 | nvz | not really, nothing helpful anyhow. My best advice is find another wifi card and check for broadcom stuff before buying a laptop. its really junk and only supported by their binary drivers which are terrible |
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| 12:44.59 | hellyeah | I see |
| 12:45.08 | hellyeah | So driver issue |
| 12:45.43 | hellyeah | Sucks |
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| 12:45.55 | nvz | well I can't be sure because I can't test the hardware with another driver but I know when I had one a long time ago it was definately failing to calibrate the noise floor properly which causes huge issues in the modern world where there are lots of radio signals |
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| 12:47.36 | Agafnd | darxmurf: OH actually i think the problem was there's no build for my arch! |
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| 12:54.17 | Agafnd | i'll just have to use apt-get source |
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| 12:57.47 | darxmurf | ah yep |
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| 13:05.16 | Agafnd | darn. I was following the instructions found here https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkg_basics.en.html in section 7.14, but when I get to "debuild -us -uc" i get the following: https://pastebin.com/raw/3d4QfxAB |
| 13:05.27 | Agafnd | and i'm not sure what to do |
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| 13:21.40 | oskie_ | Agafnd: perhaps control file is not correct |
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| 13:22.38 | Agafnd | where's the control file? or what's it called? |
| 13:22.54 | oskie_ | it should be in the debian directory |
| 13:24.15 | Agafnd | in what way might this be wrong? http://termbin.com/owhu |
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| 13:25.53 | kus | when I do php -v I get PHP 7.1.8 (cli) (built: Aug 4 2017 18:47:28) ( NTS ) but apt-get install php-xdebug fails how do I install php xdebug in my php:latest image? |
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| 13:37.27 | oskie_ | Agafnd: could it be that the Architecture doesn't match? i don't know...also i use dpkg-buildpackage, not debuild |
| 13:38.24 | Agafnd | oskie_: gee, I AM building it on amd64 |
| 13:38.51 | Agafnd | i assume just adding "amd64" to "architecture:" will not fix anything. |
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| 13:39.56 | oskie_ | you can try... |
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| 13:45.41 | Agafnd | oskie_: well, I get a slightly longer error... https://pastebin.com/raw/8cFYnH6U |
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| 13:48.42 | Agafnd | hm. it says "add a.out in debian/source/include-binaries [...]" but, no such file exists. |
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| 13:49.58 | oskie_ | Afforess: I think the relevant error now is 'unrepresentable changes to source', but I'm not sure. |
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| 13:51.39 | Agafnd | hm...maybe in this situation, i should contact the package maintainer? |
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| 13:53.18 | Akuw | hi, i have a virtual only have 1 partition with linux sda1 |
| 13:53.32 | Akuw | i need to umount to clone, what options i have? |
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| 13:54.08 | greycat | virtual what? |
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| 13:55.28 | greycat | Answers are very different if this is a virtual machine (which kind?) vs. a virtual private server (which kind, which provider?) |
| 13:55.31 | Akuw | virtual machines, sorry |
| 13:55.48 | greycat | Shut down the VM, copy the disk image file. |
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| 14:06.08 | Quatroking | Does enterprise support for Debian exist, the same way Ubuntu has? |
| 14:06.36 | greycat | There's no commercial support from Debian itself, but you may be able to find a third party that will support you. |
| 14:06.54 | vista | Hi, is there perhaps an archive of debs for Jessie? Looking for the deb for a particular version of the kernel image (3.16.36) |
| 14:07.09 | greycat | !snapshot |
| 14:07.09 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
| 14:07.17 | Quatroking | Gotcha |
| 14:07.18 | Akuw | greycat: suppose it is a real machine |
| 14:07.40 | Akuw | greycat: the only way is use a CD or USB right? |
| 14:07.48 | greycat | Akuw: you're just going to keep making up random scenarios until someone coughs up an answer that you like, even though it won't actually WORK because you're lying about your requirements? |
| 14:08.00 | vista | Thanks! |
| 14:08.31 | Akuw | greycat: because i need to test i am trying to test on virtual machine, but the real case is real machine |
| 14:08.47 | Akuw | that is all |
| 14:08.50 | greycat | Then your test will not match reality. |
| 14:09.09 | greycat | Administration of VMs is *completely* different from administration of real iron. |
| 14:09.23 | Akuw | ok, the scenario is real machine |
| 14:10.06 | Akuw | then the options i have is boot from USB right? but i need partclone to do the job |
| 14:10.20 | greycat | Are you using LVM on the real machine, with enough unallocated extents to do LVM snapshots? |
| 14:10.47 | greycat | If so, you can clone partitions at that level. |
| 14:10.53 | Akuw | i need to check that |
| 14:11.02 | Akuw | today i will go to check server |
| 14:11.20 | Akuw | in case there is no lvm |
| 14:11.24 | Akuw | ? |
| 14:11.26 | greycat | "partitions" really being logical volumes, of course |
| 14:11.52 | greycat | Then see my previous answer about you just making up random bullshit scenarios. |
| 14:12.20 | greycat | "What if it's actually a Z80 powered by a lemon?" |
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| 14:12.57 | P4gefault | What if my potatoe matches this apple? :> |
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| 14:13.18 | forcerecon | you guys are tough... wow |
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| 14:13.50 | Akuw | by now i used clonezilla but give an error when write image |
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| 14:14.27 | Akuw | forcerecon: they are happy talking tough that make them more male |
| 14:14.29 | Akuw | hehehehehe |
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| 14:16.33 | P4gefault | I used to be a woman, but nvm :3 |
| 14:18.05 | Akuw | ok, that pc don't use LVM |
| 14:18.13 | Akuw | then what is the option ? |
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| 14:20.58 | SuperTramp83 | I can see how a patient and helpful cat can sometimes lose it and scratch your mug with his sharp claws |
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| 14:27.01 | tremolo | forcerecon: It's very frustrating when someone (apparently) wants help and you want to help them, but they won't give you straight information that you need in order to help. |
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| 14:35.35 | treehug88 | tremolo what's your question? |
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| 14:35.52 | treehug88 | oh sorry that's to forcerecon |
| 14:36.37 | Akuw | is very sad when you talk clear and people don't understand |
| 14:37.29 | Agafnd | Akuw: consider that maybe you're not talking clear enough |
| 14:37.49 | Akuw | last line |
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| 14:38.47 | Akuw | again: i have a computer using Linux (don't use LVM) and i need to clone. I guess i have to boot from CD or USB. I wantt to use partclone |
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| 14:47.51 | deathstar | how can I operate Debian by just i3 windows manager |
| 14:48.15 | greycat | same way you operate any other system using i3 |
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| 14:55.02 | jandrusk | deathstar: You just set your desktop session to I3 and your good to go. |
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| 14:57.01 | deathstar | no I just want to use i3 on x-org x11 sessions |
| 14:57.20 | greycat | So you put "exec i3" at the end of your ~/.xsession and be happy. |
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| 14:57.30 | jandrusk | ^ +1 |
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| 14:58.08 | deathstar | thanks greycat |
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| 15:27.15 | nvz | how can I reattach screen as a different user? when I su to the user running screen I get an error that it cannot open my terminal |
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| 15:35.31 | Ormu | nvz: just my 2cents https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/219851/how-to-access-screen-created-by-other-users |
| 15:35.50 | greycat | su/sudo to that user |
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| 15:38.07 | nvz | yes that is what I was doing from an lxterm and its saying Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please check |
| 15:40.05 | nvz | which is exactly what that stackexchange thing says happens when you try su and use it |
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| 15:43.31 | nvz | the problem seems to be the screen process running as the user cannot access the pseudoterm running as the other user |
| 15:43.39 | tw | You have to force a new tty allocation. That comment you quote actually has a link to a workaround. |
| 15:43.49 | vice | w00t. |
| 15:44.51 | nvz | maybe I missed it, things are easy to miss in a text mode browser on most websites |
| 15:44.57 | tw | https://serverfault.com/questions/116775/sudo-as-different-user-and-running-screen/116830 |
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| 15:48.37 | nvz | hmm that /dev/null trick works.. |
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| 15:50.14 | tw | script is the magic. /dev/null is the logging location for script. |
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| 15:53.15 | nvz | hmm I never heard of this command before |
| 15:54.55 | nvz | seems to me though that its just now running an extra process.. /me tries something |
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| 15:56.54 | tw | You can add the destination user to tty, but that sounds like security problems abound. |
| 15:57.07 | tw | I'd suck up the 2MB ram usage and call it a day. |
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| 15:58.52 | nvz | hmm.. I thought doing a su -l or bash -i would do the trick |
| 15:59.49 | nvz | I may reconsider my setup entirely, I just threw this together without thinking much about it |
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| 16:02.46 | Zalabaslea | giga :) |
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| 16:30.26 | Wonuku | Hello |
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| 16:30.55 | Wonuku | anyone online? |
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| 16:31.31 | towo` | no |
| 16:31.39 | towo` | only 1686 bots |
| 16:31.43 | Wonuku | oh nein |
| 16:31.49 | Wonuku | I will ask my question anyways |
| 16:32.41 | Wonuku | I am trying to connect 2 debian computers (a laptop and a desktop) to make laptop share its wifi connection with the desktop |
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| 16:33.01 | Wonuku | I have tried this https://askubuntu.com/questions/359856/share-wireless-internet-connection-through-ethernet |
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| 16:33.28 | rozie | Wonuku: does computers ping each other? |
| 16:34.11 | Wonuku | yep they do |
| 16:34.43 | rozie | is ipv4 forwarding enabled on computer which shares network? |
| 16:34.57 | rotaticus | so systemd is the way to go ... what about pulseaudio? will there be a /etc/systemd/whatever/pulseaudio-headless soon? |
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| 16:35.17 | Wonuku | I don't know how to enable that |
| 16:35.27 | Wonuku | I disabled my firewall so that is no prob |
| 16:36.03 | rozie | you need to enable forwarding |
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| 16:36.16 | Wonuku | I set the ipv4 setting "Shared to other computers" |
| 16:36.45 | rozie | well, I don't know what does it do :-) |
| 16:37.45 | Wonuku | sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 (as root) |
| 16:37.47 | rozie | Wonuku: https://pastebin.com/CU9Ag2nM I use this way |
| 16:38.18 | rozie | this makes net (+dhcp) on my eth1 device for all computers |
| 16:38.38 | rozie | and my laptop is connected to internet via wlan0 |
| 16:38.40 | rozie | HTH |
| 16:38.53 | melvin | Whiich is the best open-source flash player? |
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| 16:40.39 | Wonuku | I need to reboot into generic kernel cuz I am dumb and my kernel doesnt support masquerade |
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| 16:44.18 | Wonuku | back |
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| 16:44.26 | Wonuku | Failed to start dnsmasq.service: Unit dnsmasq.service not found. |
| 16:44.39 | Wonuku | what do I do now? |
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| 16:46.06 | johnfg | how do we make slapd to show its version? slapd -V doesn't show it. |
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| 16:48.14 | rozie | Wonuku: not sure if you need dnsmasq |
| 16:48.39 | rozie | ping 8.8.8.8 from the other computer should work. if you used right interfaces |
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| 16:49.21 | Wonuku | Oh it worked |
| 16:49.23 | Wonuku | without it |
| 16:49.26 | Wonuku | thanks a lot |
| 16:49.30 | rozie | np |
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| 16:52.50 | rotaticus | any hints on pulseaudio and nonX systems? |
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| 16:54.14 | Agafnd | melvin: gnash I think |
| 16:54.34 | Agafnd | melvin: but if you need it as browser plugin, try lightspark |
| 16:55.22 | melvin | Agafnd: Thanks, I'll check it out! |
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| 16:58.41 | amd_0x51 | Hey guys, may I ask what the fix is for nm-applet segfault? Vanishes from tray after I log out/log back in again |
| 16:58.46 | amd_0x51 | debian jessie MATE |
| 16:58.50 | amd_0x51 | nm-applet[4554]: segfault at c ip 08072ef9 sp bfec1f94 error 4 in nm-applet[8048000+59000] |
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| 17:00.22 | brw_ | amd_0x51: what package is that from? |
| 17:00.40 | amd_0x51 | I think it comes with network-manager |
| 17:00.47 | amd_0x51 | however restarting that does nothing |
| 17:01.03 | amd_0x51 | I can bring it up in a terminal with nm-applet but then i have two of them running |
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| 17:01.14 | brw | whats the path to it? |
| 17:01.23 | brw | can you do a dpkg -S /path/to/nm-applet |
| 17:01.28 | brw | or however you are invoking it? |
| 17:01.44 | amd_0x51 | just typing nm-applet |
| 17:02.20 | amd_0x51 | it is in /usr/share/nm-applet |
| 17:02.33 | amd_0x51 | bin sorry /usr/bin/ |
| 17:02.38 | Logg | you could try an updated version of the package from jessie-backports. optimistically, the segfault bug would be fixed. |
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| 17:02.57 | brw | Yeah, doesn't look like it is in stretch. |
| 17:02.58 | amd_0x51 | okay so I should echo jessie-backports to sources list? |
| 17:02.59 | brw | wait |
| 17:03.00 | brw | yeah it is |
| 17:03.05 | greycat | !jessie backports |
| 17:03.05 | dpkg | Some packages intended for Stretch (Debian 9) but recompiled for use with "Jessie" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. See http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ . A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
| 17:03.08 | brw | needs to adjust his eyes |
| 17:03.21 | greycat | Please read the instructions. It's not obvious. |
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| 17:06.09 | Lyberta | can reportbug encrypt password? |
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| 17:06.32 | greycat | ... what |
| 17:06.36 | Logg | ^ |
| 17:06.42 | Lyberta | mail password |
| 17:07.15 | greycat | If you are unable to send email normally, then just have reportbug save the report to a text file, and send that in an email using whatever crazy mail client you have to use. |
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| 17:07.38 | Lyberta | ah, sounds good |
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| 17:08.12 | greycat | https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 17:17.34 | greycat | What's the other place that /sbin/init symlinks to, besides /lib/systemd/systemd? |
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| 17:25.26 | greycat | Hm, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/196166/how-to-find-out-if-a-system-uses-sysv-upstart-or-systemd-initsystem says /lib/sysvinit/init so I'll go with that. |
| 17:25.50 | greycat | ,file lib/sysvinit/init |
| 17:25.54 | judd | No packages in stretch/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 17:25.57 | greycat | ... |
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| 17:30.20 | n4dir | from the top of my head i can't find a good reason why i would want to encrypt a bugreport |
| 17:30.50 | Logg | they wanted to log in to their smtp server securely I think |
| 17:31.01 | greycat | I think the issue was the user's mail system is not really set up correctly, so he/she needs to use some kind of ISP mail server with a name and password to send email. |
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| 17:41.28 | MarcinWieczorek | Hello, can anyone here help me with wireshark/tshark? It does not work properly on older versions |
| 17:41.37 | MarcinWieczorek | I need to apply a netmask filter |
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| 17:43.21 | rozie | does it work properly on newer version? if so, just dump to file with older version and use newer taking data from file |
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| 17:45.16 | MarcinWieczorek | yeah but the files take too much space |
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| 17:46.21 | rozie | and what do you mean by older version? |
| 17:46.22 | MarcinWieczorek | I need to dump packets from one range to a file to analyze it in a GUI or whatever later |
| 17:46.37 | MarcinWieczorek | 1.12.1 is what I got atm |
| 17:47.00 | MarcinWieczorek | And tshark just shows the help when a newer one actually works |
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| 17:47.25 | rozie | what is that Debian version? |
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| 17:47.51 | MarcinWieczorek | is uname ok for you? |
| 17:48.03 | rozie | well, it's Jessie |
| 17:48.06 | MarcinWieczorek | 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.43-2+deb8u2 (2017-06-26) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 17:48.14 | MarcinWieczorek | Might be, I'm not a debian user |
| 17:48.24 | rozie | you have newer version i backports |
| 17:48.28 | rozie | backports.debian.org |
| 17:48.30 | MarcinWieczorek | There are two versions in the repos, this one is the newer isn't it? |
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| 17:49.01 | rozie | you can also capture packets with tcpdump |
| 17:49.01 | nvz | ,versions linux-image-amd64 |
| 17:49.02 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; jessie-backports: 4.9+80~bpo8+1; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u1; stretch-backports: 4.11+82~bpo9+1; buster: 4.11+82; sid: 4.12+84 |
| 17:49.07 | greycat | That's the standard jessie kernel. A 4.9 kernel is available in jessie-backports if you need it. |
| 17:49.21 | rozie | he needs tshark |
| 17:49.34 | rozie | ,versions tshark |
| 17:49.35 | judd | Package: tshark on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.8.2-5wheezy18; wheezy-backports: 1.12.1+g01b65bf-4~bpo70+1; wheezy-security: 1.12.1+g01b65bf-4+deb8u6~deb7u7; jessie-security: 1.12.1+g01b65bf-4+deb8u11; jessie: 1.12.1+g01b65bf-4+deb8u11; jessie-backports: 2.2.4+gcc3dc1b-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.2.6+g32dac6a-2; sid: 2.2.7-1; buster: 2.2.7-1 |
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| 17:50.02 | amd_0x51 | I could not figure it out jessie-backports offered no upgrades but nm-appet is working again with no dmesg errors after a reboot |
| 17:50.04 | MarcinWieczorek | can I easily open tcpdump output in wireshark? |
| 17:50.12 | amd_0x51 | I will try and ge to the bottom of it and report back |
| 17:50.46 | Logg | Okay. if you can reproduce the segfault, consider filing a bug report amd_0x51 |
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| 17:50.57 | rozie | MarcinWieczorek: just test it. but you have newer tshark for Jessie |
| 17:51.08 | amd_0x51 | I will Logg thanks for the help |
| 17:51.53 | amd_0x51 | usually happens after a log out or sleep session. It looks like its been reported on several times over the years on ubuntu, gnome etc |
| 17:53.53 | MarcinWieczorek | rozie: which one exactly? I'm using 1.12.1 already |
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| 17:54.01 | MarcinWieczorek | tcpdump seems to work fine |
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| 17:54.18 | gabrielc | MarcinWieczorek: https://www.wireshark.org/docs/wsug_html_chunked/AppToolstcpdump.html |
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| 17:57.01 | rozie | MarcinWieczorek: jessie-backports: 2.2.4+gcc3dc1b-1~bpo8+1 |
| 17:57.10 | rozie | as I told. backports. |
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| 17:58.37 | MarcinWieczorek | ok thank you |
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| 17:58.47 | ahmed751995 | excuse me, why debian sid don't use latest stable kernel instead of lts one? |
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| 17:59.26 | Logg | I think sid questions go in #debian-testing |
| 17:59.35 | greycat | which is on the OFTC network |
| 17:59.45 | greycat | and it's also spelled #debian-next |
| 18:00.31 | ahmed751995 | ok thanks |
| 18:01.04 | greycat | I am slightly curious what he thinks the "latest stable kernel" is, since judd says it's only x.x.1 below what kernel.org says. |
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| 18:01.52 | n4dir | i guess the simple answer is, that sid is where new upstream versions of software arrive in debian. and the kernel is no exception to that rule |
| 18:02.19 | greycat | the less simple answer is kernel.org says stable is 4.12.7 and judd says sid has 4.12.6 and so what is the actual question? |
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| 18:03.13 | n4dir | oh. i got it the wrong way around. i thought he would ask why sid doesn't use the debian-stable kernel, and was confused more than just a bit. duh. my fault |
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| 18:08.29 | Wonuku | How can you stop xserver? |
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| 18:09.12 | greycat | Close your X session. If that doesn't do it, then you probably logged in through a display manager, which you will have to identify, and then stop. |
| 18:09.32 | gabrielc | MarcinWieczorek: you can also send tcpdump traffic to wireshark using "pcap over ip" |
| 18:09.36 | greycat | the most popular DMs currently are gdm3, lightdm, and sddm |
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| 18:11.36 | Wonuku | something is really wrong here I tried typing lightdm stop and know I can access the login screen from every tty also I can use my mouse |
| 18:12.35 | hubot | How can I delete my firstname and lastname from https://contributors.debian.org/contributor/hubot-guest@alioth/? |
| 18:12.43 | hubot | I don't want show my firstname and lastname in Debian contributors list. |
| 18:12.44 | greycat | *plonk* |
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| 18:18.01 | Wonuku | executed service lightdm stop and tried switching to tty7 currently tty1 is frozen :/ |
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| 18:18.12 | Wonuku | can't switch form it either |
| 18:18.36 | dondelelcaro | hubot: I think you can claim the e-mail and then disable it |
| 18:19.00 | greycat | If X is not working, attack the problem from that direction. Make sure all firmware is installed (no file errors from dmesg | grep -i firmware). Make sure you are using the correct driver. Some nvidia chipsets may require the proprietary driver. |
| 18:19.17 | dondelelcaro | hubot: specifically by claiming the e-mail, and then hiding all activity by yourself |
| 18:19.30 | dondelelcaro | (people could still figure it out, but that will at least stop that page from showing it) |
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| 18:21.18 | Wonuku | just didn't switched to tty7 ^_^ |
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| 18:23.31 | gabrielc | MarcinWieczorek: i think I got confused with mikrotik TZSP that supports live sending to wireshark |
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| 18:39.28 | _frostie | has anyone have had problems with ladspa pulseaudio-equalizer_2.7.0.2-5 in debian 9? because when i reboot the system with that equalizer enabled it crashes pulseaudio and its not running? and i have to do: rm -r ~/.config/pulse /tmp/pulse-* pulseaudio --kill and pulseaudio --start in a terminal and pulseaudio works |
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| 18:41.04 | _frostie | it is this one that makes pulseaudio crash after reboot: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/system-wide-pulseaudio-equalizer.html |
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| 18:53.04 | teraflops | _frostie: there is a pulseadio-equalizer package in debian repos already |
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| 18:54.43 | teraflops | what I wonder is whether you installed it from debian repos or ubuntu ppa ones |
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| 18:55.50 | _frostie | not installed ubuntu ppa, just installed from a .deb file |
| 18:56.31 | gumbee | is this the right channel to ask about why I can't play DVDs on my Debian laptop? |
| 18:56.41 | gumbee | im using VLC and it keeps erroring out |
| 18:58.04 | teraflops | _frostie: from a deb file? by hand? |
| 18:58.19 | greycat | That just shifts the question to "where did the .deb file come from" |
| 18:58.23 | teraflops | yeah |
| 18:58.51 | _frostie | https://ubuntu.pkgs.org/17.04/webupd8-i386/pulseaudio-equalizer_2.7.0.2-5~webupd8~xenial0_all.deb.html under Download >>Binary package section on that page is where i download it from |
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| 18:59.19 | teraflops | ... |
| 18:59.22 | tremolo | Unless you're running Ubuntu 17.04, that sounds like a bad time. |
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| 19:00.15 | teraflops | ,v pulseadio-equalizer |
| 19:00.16 | judd | No package named 'pulseadio-equalizer' was found in amd64. |
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| 19:00.44 | oerheks | gumbee, there is a page about that, https://wiki.debian.org/CDDVD |
| 19:00.53 | teraflops | I swear it's there :S |
| 19:01.05 | oerheks | gumbee, still some dvd's will never play |
| 19:01.15 | gumbee | oerheks: yes that was the page i was following |
| 19:01.19 | teraflops | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/pulseaudio-equalizer |
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| 19:01.50 | gumbee | oerheks: i have some error message about "Error cracking CSS key" |
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| 19:02.12 | gumbee | im going to put the error message in a pastie for now |
| 19:02.12 | oerheks | gumbee, try an other dvd.. if that works, you have your answer |
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| 19:02.32 | gumbee | oerheks: ah ok, ill give that a shot |
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| 19:04.16 | _frostie | gumbee, you need libdvdcss2 for copy protected dvds look at DVD Playback part on the page |
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| 19:04.35 | _frostie | here: https://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs |
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| 19:12.03 | forcerecon | tremolo: He should have never answered me.,. I was just making fun and he buried himself.. I waited to respond.. |
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| 19:12.15 | forcerecon | sorry for the crap |
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| 19:13.20 | teraflops | ok |
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| 19:13.43 | teraflops | just trying to get more detailed info |
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| 19:18.54 | _frostie | teraflops, ok i understand. it has never been a problem with it before. is there any log in pulseaudio so i can see what makes it crash? (i did not find a pulseaudio log file) maybe missing dependencies or something |
| 19:19.28 | teraflops | _frostie: idk about that debian package tbh |
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| 19:20.01 | teraflops | _frostie: you installed a package from another distro, by hand... |
| 19:20.12 | teraflops | s/debian/ubuntu |
| 19:22.46 | _frostie | well i have ran Ubuntu and i thought that if it works in Ubuntu (Ubuntu is Debian-based) it migh but it does not have to work also in Debian, i just gave it a try |
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| 19:24.12 | n4dir | _frostie: the short answer/comment: No. And here comes the full stop. |
| 19:24.52 | SuperTramp83 | _frostie, you better compile the packages that are missing in the repo |
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| 19:25.12 | teraflops | _frostie: yeah, about pulseadio logs, try journalctl, depending on your environment (DE/WM/DM) pulseadio can be started differently |
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| 19:26.25 | tremolo | Eh, I'm not sure what happened. I'm not upset, and hopefully not upsetting. |
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| 19:27.47 | _frostie | SuperTramp83 yeah i was going to say that, i could re-package it to Debian with all its dependencies and make it Debian compatible instead of Ubuntu |
| 19:28.15 | SuperTramp83 | ^that would be great |
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| 19:29.12 | teraflops | _frostie: idk about that very tool, but older one used to be just a python script |
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| 19:29.52 | _frostie | yeah i remember that, then came the .deb file after that right |
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| 19:31.31 | _frostie | i think came as a script first, then later as a .deb file that installed it and it ends up in ppa (Ubuntu/Mint and in repos in a few other distros |
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| 19:32.24 | n4dir | the .deb archive can still contain the script. |
| 19:32.34 | n4dir | the very same, i mean |
| 19:32.49 | teraflops | or just a git repo on the intertubes |
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| 19:35.00 | _frostie | found the script pulseaudio-equalizer.py |
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| 19:36.54 | _frostie | if it works and i hope it does, just gotta test it first i could put it in the backport repo |
| 19:37.22 | greycat | backports are built from sources *in* debian |
| 19:37.50 | greycat | if you're getting this from upstream or another distro, then it would be a whole new package in debian |
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| 19:40.56 | greycat | ,file pulseaudio-equalizer.py |
| 19:40.58 | _frostie | yeah the source code for the software/tool must be in debian to backport (forgot sorry), i backported mpv and handbrake once and then i took it from sid |
| 19:41.00 | judd | No packages in stretch/amd64 were found with that file. |
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| 19:41.40 | _frostie | backport is make old software work with new system |
| 19:42.01 | greycat | other way around |
| 19:42.03 | _frostie | *new software with old system |
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| 19:44.31 | _frostie | and then build it with its dep... and then create a .deb file and install and then the backport is done. |
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| 19:46.11 | _frostie | i found this https://wiki.debian.org/CreatePackageFromPPA dont know if it works tho... |
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| 19:47.35 | n4dir | _frostie: i don't know the wiki entry. I do know that at forums net the user stevepusser made a few posts how to rebuild from a ppa for debian. I can't say more about it, just spreading the info |
| 19:49.49 | _frostie | im going to search for a solution for the pulseaudio equalizer package and how to rebuild it to Debian |
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| 19:50.35 | greycat | If it's really just one python script, it shouldn't be hard. |
| 19:50.41 | Fox682 | !next |
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| 19:52.26 | _frostie | no i can backport a package from sid in when i had debian 8 i could also rebuild a package |
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| 19:52.44 | aura | best setup for an encrypted storage drive? |
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| 19:53.57 | Paul__ | hello |
| 19:54.15 | _frostie | if i can do backport packages, i also can rebuild so as said i agree would not be that hard |
| 19:55.09 | Paul__ | I'm using debian 8.9 , I cannot save nothing web page from firefox on a usb memory |
| 19:55.17 | _frostie | thanks for the help |
| 19:55.43 | Paul__ | I tried to change the device permission, but it don't change |
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| 19:56.17 | Paul__ | it is mounted under /media/user_name/label_name |
| 19:56.26 | n4dir | aura: imho cryptsetup, but i don't know much more |
| 19:57.01 | aura | what about ext2 ext4 ecc? |
| 19:57.05 | Paul__ | must I mount the device manually ? |
| 19:57.10 | Paul__ | fat32 |
| 19:57.16 | Paul__ | one partition |
| 19:57.23 | n4dir | aura: i don't understand? |
| 19:57.30 | jhutchins_wk | !best |
| 19:57.30 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 19:57.48 | Paul__ | drwx------ 8 pablo pablo 4096 Jan 1 1970 8GBYTE |
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| 19:58.07 | n4dir | aura: i always use ext4, since it existed. in case that is what you asked. |
| 19:58.18 | aura | ok :) |
| 19:58.18 | Paul__ | and the permission don't change with chmod |
| 19:58.24 | jhutchins_wk | Paul__: Is it mounting read-only? |
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| 19:58.56 | jhutchins_wk | Paul__: One method is to set up a fstab entry with the correct user permissions using the device UUID. |
| 19:58.59 | n4dir | aura: if you want to access a filesystem from (for example) a *BSD* system, you should keep that in mind (do the other OS'es support the filesystem you plan to use). |
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| 19:59.08 | Paul__ | jhutchins_wk, I don't know , the flags are these : drwx------ 8 pablo pablo 4096 Jan 1 1970 8GBYTE |
| 19:59.30 | jhutchins_wk | Paul__: User pablo should be able to write to it. |
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| 19:59.46 | teraflops | aura: you meant FDE? |
| 20:00.04 | Paul__ | jhutchins_wk, yes , I may make a empty file with touch |
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| 20:01.49 | aura | i'm not sure, i don't have special needs. i would just like to setup an encrypted storage hdd and making it accessible from different os |
| 20:02.28 | Paul__ | from promt bash I write correctly on the device |
| 20:02.38 | Paul__ | from firefox it's impossible |
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| 20:03.52 | true_dat | hello |
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| 20:04.16 | true_dat | where can I download checksums for debian iso to verify it? |
| 20:04.23 | teraflops | aura: I think dm-crypt is fine |
| 20:05.12 | n4dir | Paul__: sounds weird. If it was me i would probably download to the usual folder, copy it to the usb-stick and call it a day (On another note, i liked "pmount" a lot to mount as a user). |
| 20:05.42 | teraflops | true_dat: from where you downloaded the iso itself |
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| 20:06.10 | jhutchins_wk | Paul__: I agree with n4dir - save locally, copy to drive. |
| 20:06.47 | true_dat | teraflops: I got it from here https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst I don't see any checksums there |
| 20:06.51 | Paul__ | jhutchins_wk, why is not possible to save directly ? |
| 20:06.52 | n4dir | aura: i for one had hard times to use encryption from different operating systems. I didn't look that close though (and it is quite a while ago) |
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| 20:07.16 | true_dat | teraflops: google didn't help me neither |
| 20:07.37 | Paul__ | wait |
| 20:07.40 | Paul__ | I understood |
| 20:07.53 | teraflops | true_dat: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/arm64/iso-cd/ |
| 20:07.54 | Paul__ | file system fat 32 don't support long filename |
| 20:08.01 | Paul__ | this is the problem |
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| 20:08.40 | teraflops | change the arch obv |
| 20:08.53 | teraflops | true_dat: ^ |
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| 20:09.41 | true_dat | teraflops: thanks! |
| 20:09.42 | teraflops | https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/ ^ |
| 20:09.50 | teraflops | true_dat: np |
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| 20:12.01 | true_dat | oh and how to verify the hashs signature using gpg? |
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| 20:12.34 | greycat | just use md5sum or sha1sum or whichever |
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| 20:13.12 | true_dat | no, I want to verify if the hashes are correct |
| 20:13.44 | greycat | What file? |
| 20:14.01 | true_dat | there is a file called SHA1SUMS.sign |
| 20:14.13 | greycat | I am not going to waste time trying to figure out what the URL is. |
| 20:14.54 | true_dat | I didn't know you needed the URL: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/SHA1SUMS.sign |
| 20:14.58 | jhutchins_wk | true_dat: sha1sum <file> |
| 20:15.03 | true_dat | this is a signature for debian iso hashes |
| 20:15.05 | jhutchins_wk | Compare output with that list. |
| 20:15.08 | true_dat | I want to use gpg to verify that signature |
| 20:15.31 | jhutchins_wk | true_dat: gpg is not relevant. |
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| 20:15.41 | true_dat | jhutchins_wk: really? why? |
| 20:15.44 | greycat | so, the file is https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/SHA1SUMS and the signature is https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/SHA1SUMS.sign |
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| 20:16.23 | true_dat | I got the file with the signature, how do I use it? |
| 20:16.27 | teraflops | true_dat: you will check gpg and then you will ask us about the gpg signature is not trusted, then we will have to tell you that that's not relevant, so go try shasum :P |
| 20:16.55 | true_dat | teraflops: I didn't shasum, but I thought gpg is to make sure I got the right hashes? |
| 20:17.17 | true_dat | teraflops: *I did shasum |
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| 20:17.23 | Paul__ | however I don't understand 'cause I cannot change the permission with chmod 777 dir_name |
| 20:17.29 | greycat | *sigh* jesus christ, what the hell did gpg do... |
| 20:17.36 | n4dir | security and half-knowledge don't go well together. I made my choice and gave up on security ... :-) |
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| 20:17.39 | teraflops | you just need to know the iso havent been changed |
| 20:17.40 | greycat | it won't let me skip --keyserver and it won't let me PROVIDE --keyserver |
| 20:17.52 | true_dat | n4dir: lol! |
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| 20:18.14 | true_dat | don't I also need to make sure the hashes haven't been changed by some evil person? |
| 20:18.30 | teraflops | yeah, use sha1sum |
| 20:18.36 | greycat | Oh, it works if I changed --recv-keys to --receive-keys :( |
| 20:18.37 | jhutchins_wk | Paul__: What's the filesystem on the USB? Usually it's an MS system. |
| 20:18.49 | Paul__ | fat32 |
| 20:19.09 | greycat | So, download both the file AND the signature; gpg --receive-keys DF9B9C49EAA9298432589D76DA87E80D6294BE9B --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net; gpg --verify SHA1SUMS.sign SHA1SUMS |
| 20:19.09 | true_dat | I did that, but I also want to know if the checksum I downloaded is the one posted my debian developers |
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| 20:19.15 | jhutchins_wk | Paul__: Ok, don't expect ext permissions to work. |
| 20:19.27 | greycat | That worked for me. |
| 20:19.33 | n4dir | Paul__: perhaps if the directory above the directory you want to chmod is owned by a different user (probably root). That is: i would try it as root |
| 20:19.34 | HSorgYves | morning |
| 20:19.35 | Paul__ | jhutchins_wk, ah ok , and with ntfs ? |
| 20:19.47 | jhutchins_wk | Also different. |
| 20:19.52 | Paul__ | I must use it on win too, sorry |
| 20:20.04 | jhutchins_wk | Paul__: You need to set it either with the mount options or in fstab. |
| 20:20.21 | teraflops | true_dat: you are right |
| 20:20.33 | HSorgYves | Does mysql command from mariadb read the ~/.my.cnf file? I am getting error "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)" |
| 20:20.34 | jhutchins_wk | Paul__: ...but you already established that you can write to it with bash, so do that. |
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| 20:20.44 | Paul__ | jhutchins_wk, fat32 haven't permission ? |
| 20:21.04 | jhutchins_wk | Paul__: Uses a different system. |
| 20:21.16 | Paul__ | jhutchins_wk, I must save from firefox, it was a double "" character |
| 20:21.33 | true_dat | greycat: we must have different versions of gpg because the parameters are different for me |
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| 20:21.40 | greycat | I am on stretch. |
| 20:21.45 | Paul__ | ntfs have permissions ? I must use this usb under win too |
| 20:21.53 | greycat | If you're on something older, --recv-keys may work for you as it used to work for me. |
| 20:22.10 | jhutchins_wk | Paul__: Save it to the local filesystem, copy it to the drive. |
| 20:22.25 | Paul__ | ok solve thx |
| 20:22.32 | Paul__ | ok I solved thx |
| 20:22.43 | jhutchins_wk | !next |
| 20:22.44 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 20:23.08 | HSorgYves | jhutchins: I am here ;-) |
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| 20:24.38 | HSorgYves | jhutchins_wk: make me happy |
| 20:26.49 | jhutchins_wk | HSorgYves: I would think that Maria should respect the .my.cnf files, there could be a syntax error. |
| 20:27.14 | jhutchins_wk | HSorgYves: I would check the MariaDB documentation, particularly any README files in /usr/share/doc/... |
| 20:27.45 | jhutchins_wk | HSorgYves: Does it work if you use -p? |
| 20:27.48 | HSorgYves | stat("~/.my.cnf", 0x7ffdcdb33f80) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 20:27.59 | jhutchins_wk | HSorgYves: Well there ya go! |
| 20:28.06 | HSorgYves | # ls -la ~/ |
| 20:28.13 | HSorgYves | -rw------- 1 root root 28 Aug 15 22:21 .my.cnf |
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| 20:28.33 | jhutchins_wk | cat .my.cnf |
| 20:28.49 | HSorgYves | # cat .my.cnf |
| 20:28.49 | HSorgYves | [client] |
| 20:28.49 | HSorgYves | password = |
| 20:28.52 | greycat | HSorgYves: looks like the ~ did not get expanded |
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| 20:29.04 | greycat | that stat() call should have had an actual path |
| 20:29.36 | HSorgYves | greycat: The call was: # strace mysql |
| 20:30.04 | DK2 | i just added two new networks via "ip rule add from x.x.x..x/24 table 100" and their defaultgws |
| 20:30.12 | DK2 | but how can i make this reboot persistent? |
| 20:30.14 | true_dat | greycat: thanks that helped! |
| 20:30.42 | HSorgYves | greycat: thx taht helped! |
| 20:30.55 | DK2 | other than putting them into rclocal |
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| 20:31.31 | HSorgYves | stat("/root/.my.cnf", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=28, ...}) = 0 |
| 20:31.31 | HSorgYves | open("/root/.my.cnf", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 |
| 20:31.33 | ksft | I have a Debian live USB thing that I just booted from |
| 20:31.50 | ksft | it has a menu with a few options for installing Debian |
| 20:31.53 | HSorgYves | jhutchins_wk: another happy customer ;-) |
| 20:32.06 | ksft | is there a way to get to a shell or something without installing it? |
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| 20:38.09 | Paul__ | how to change a label of a partition ? |
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| 20:43.05 | Paul__ | hello |
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| 20:44.03 | amd_0x51 | man fdisk |
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| 20:44.19 | Paul__ | ntfs not 83 |
| 20:44.24 | Paul__ | id 7 ntfs |
| 20:44.41 | greycat | partition types are really just a comment |
| 20:45.03 | Paul__ | e2label dont go |
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| 20:51.17 | Paul__ | ok, problem solved, I change the usb in ntfs |
| 20:51.42 | Paul__ | now I need to set the label |
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| 20:58.16 | Paul__ | ok, the device must be unmounted |
| 20:58.19 | Paul__ | thx all |
| 20:58.29 | Paul__ | good end summer |
| 20:58.32 | Paul__ | :) |
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| 21:01.43 | jhutchins_wk | Paul__: That doesn't change anything except the label, it will not become an ntfs partition. |
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| 21:03.02 | Paul__ | jhutchins_wk, I re-formatted the usb key with ntfs , I unmounted it , new_label, and now the new label is setted |
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| 21:03.16 | Paul__ | to change label need unmount the device |
| 21:03.48 | greycat | Apparently the setting of this entirely cosmetic Partition ID/Type *was* the entire goal. |
| 21:04.05 | greycat | Unless Microsoft actually cares about it. *shrug* |
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| 21:15.14 | aguitel | apt or aptitude ? |
| 21:15.14 | apt | well, aptitude is a powerful and flexible package manager which is not afraid to experiment with new ideas. http://aptitude.sourceforge.net, or 'apt-get install aptitude', or http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200307/msg02135.html |
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| 21:17.50 | armin | [armin@atlantis:~] apt-cache search network-manager | grep -i kde |
| 21:17.51 | armin | [armin@atlantis:~] |
| 21:17.59 | armin | anyone a hint what that was called? |
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| 21:22.02 | aguitel | aptitude is better than apt ? |
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| 21:29.47 | petn-randall | aguitel: It depends on what job you want to accomplish. Use the one that suits you better, they both use the same package backend. |
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| 21:31.18 | aguitel | petn-randall: ok |
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| 21:35.29 | petn-randall | ,v plasma-nm |
| 21:35.30 | judd | Package: plasma-nm on amd64 -- jessie: 0.9.3.4-2; sid: 4:5.8.6-1; buster: 4:5.8.6-1; stretch: 4:5.8.6-1 |
| 21:35.43 | petn-randall | armin: I think you're looking for this. ^^^ |
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| 21:36.49 | armin | petn-randall: that's the one. thanks a lot! |
| 21:36.57 | petn-randall | armin: You're welcome! |
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| 21:41.29 | lavenders | on amd64 deb9 fresh install i use chromium and overtime the chromium renderers fill up memory and deb9 freezes. |
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| 21:42.19 | lavenders | Q: Is this chromium or deb9, why does ram fill up, your guess? should i buy more ram? |
| 21:43.02 | lavenders | have 8gb |
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| 21:44.41 | petn-randall | lavenders: Are you sure the freeze is because of RAM? |
| 21:45.42 | lavenders | i dunno i newbie, is there a system log, sometimes the screen goes blank, i had same issue on deb8 |
| 21:46.40 | lavenders | yes it must be bug in webpage because if i leave page open on autoreload 30min then ram stays low and no freeze! |
| 21:47.12 | lavenders | Q: could it be possible that a website script could do sth like this? |
| 21:48.00 | petn-randall | !linux ate my ram |
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| 21:48.54 | lavenders | wooot? |
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| 21:49.47 | petn-randall | !atemyram |
| 21:49.47 | dpkg | "Linux ate my ram!" No, it didn't. Read this: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 21:49.47 | petn-randall | lavenders: Ah, that's the one. I didn't know the right factoid. |
| 21:51.26 | lavenders | so, use OutOfMemory-killer to kill ? |
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| 21:51.52 | lavenders | i have everything default setting, chrome tab sometimes freezes, what to do now? |
| 21:52.09 | lavenders | the website tells me i should start to worry |
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| 21:54.25 | petn-randall | I'm not sure if you're reading the same web page as I do. |
| 21:55.09 | lavenders | cite: Warning signs of a genuine low memory situation that you may want to look into == true YES |
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| 22:00.43 | preview | hallo, is anyone here familiar with setting up vnc on a local network? I've gotten ssh working, but vnc refuses connections any time I try to use it |
| 22:03.13 | th0r | preview, how are you starting vnc and how are you trying to access it? |
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| 22:03.34 | preview | th0r: I'm usi9ng tigervnc server and client, and I made a systemd script to start the server on the host machine |
| 22:03.46 | preview | so I use service scriptname start |
| 22:05.24 | th0r | preview, have you checked to see if the server is actually running? (ps ax | grep vnc) |
| 22:05.39 | preview | I just did that now, and it's not starting |
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| 22:06.06 | th0r | preview, then the problem is probably in the script. Have you tried to start the vnc server from the command line to see if it runs and you can connect? |
| 22:06.18 | preview | yes, I get this output: vncserver: Command 'ssh start tigervncserver '-geometry' '1900x1200' '-depth' '24' '-wmDecoration' '8x64'' failed: 65280 |
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| 22:07.02 | th0r | preview, what command line are you using? |
| 22:07.14 | preview | vncserver start |
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| 22:07.31 | preview | tigervncserver asks for a password but doesn't seem to run? |
| 22:07.59 | th0r | preview, I don't use tightvncserver, but usually you start vnc with vncserver :0 (or vncserver :1) |
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| 22:09.12 | th0r | preview, I run x11vnc on :0, which allows me to view it on the monitor while accessing it via vnc. But most people use :1, which starts vnc separate from what you see on the monitor connected to the computer |
| 22:09.33 | preview | okay using tigervnc it starts, and tells me to connect using hostname:3, but when I try putting thta in vinagre it immediately tells me connection was closed |
| 22:10.01 | th0r | preview, try <ip address>:5903 |
| 22:11.04 | preview | same error, immediately tells me connection was closed |
| 22:11.50 | preview | I can access the other computer fine over ssh, maybe it's a port thing? |
| 22:11.50 | th0r | preview, what did you use to start it? the error may be misleadding |
| 22:11.50 | preview | uh connecting using vinagre |
| 22:11.51 | th0r | preview, no, what command did you use to start vncserver? |
| 22:12.05 | preview | oh I jsut ran tigervncserver |
| 22:12.10 | preview | *jsut |
| 22:12.14 | preview | *just |
| 22:12.15 | preview | haha |
| 22:12.58 | th0r | preview, did you try starting it with :1? And did you check the man page? It usually gives examples (I can't do that...I don't use tightvncserver) |
| 22:13.12 | preview | when I try and conneect via xtigervncviewer it tells me connection refused |
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| 22:17.50 | preview | th0r: even when I start a connection using :1 iand connect via ipaddress:5901 it still tells me connection to host as closer. |
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| 22:19.11 | preview | yeah connection refused from commandline as well (error 111) |
| 22:19.27 | th0r | preview, and again....try 'tigervncserver :1'. Then access it with vncviewer <ipaddress>:5901 |
| 22:19.27 | th0r | preview, the man page is pretty clear on it all |
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| 22:19.29 | th0r | preview, once you can start it from the cli, you can start correcting the script |
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| 22:19.50 | preview | th0r: I just did that, no luck : / |
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| 22:22.32 | th0r | preview, according to this....http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-virtualization-and-cloud-90/unable-to-connect-to-socket-connection-refused-111-tiger-vnc-917099/ |
| 22:22.45 | th0r | preview, you need to use 6001 instead of 5901 |
| 22:23.35 | preview | th0r: I checked using lsof and it _is_ using port 5901 |
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| 22:23.59 | th0r | preview, yup...that thread talks about tigervncserver using both 5901 and 6001. Like I said...I use x11vnc |
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| 22:24.29 | preview | okay I'll try using that intead |
| 22:24.40 | th0r | preview, you might want to check that thread...there is a bit of info in it. |
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| 22:25.32 | GriffusSilver | Hello |
| 22:25.47 | th0r | preview, the info on tigervnc also talks about creating a vnc user in a conf file, and defining a password |
| 22:25.54 | GriffusSilver | Hello |
| 22:26.15 | preview | th0r: x11vnc worked straight away |
| 22:26.19 | preview | this is excellent, thanks! |
| 22:27.07 | GriffusSilver | Does anyone here know anything about driver creation? |
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| 22:28.24 | GriffusSilver | I Guess Not |
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| 22:35.32 | dmarr | i am using jessie, and installed gcc-5. what would i set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to to have it pick up that compilers libstdc++? |
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| 22:37.20 | ChmEarl | dmarr, what about g++-5? |
| 22:38.09 | dmarr | ChmEarl: I think thats what I want |
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| 22:38.58 | ChmEarl | dmarr, start a build, but abort it as configure ends with `set;exit 1` |
| 22:39.16 | dmarr | ChmEarl: I used these steps to install gcc-5 https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/359670/17603 |
| 22:39.30 | GriffusSilver | .. |
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| 22:40.10 | dmarr | im trying to build with node-gyp and a little out of my territory |
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| 22:40.34 | dmarr | i /think/ my build is failing because im using an older compiler |
| 22:40.48 | jmcnaught | dmarr: installing packages from unstable on a jessie system was not a good idea. What else did it install as dependencies? |
| 22:41.39 | dmarr | jmcnaught: https://gist.github.com/marr/e0fd5f2fe30b9bfa7f493f9decbd1dcf |
| 22:42.51 | jmcnaught | dmarr: it upgraded your libc6⦠so you now have a frankendebian hybrid of oldstable and unstable. |
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| 22:43.39 | dmarr | jmcnaught: ok, this is in a container - i can blow it away and maybe use a different approach |
| 22:43.40 | jmcnaught | dmarr: you can *try* removing unstable from your sources.list, and manually reinstalling each of the packages listed in your gist to the jessie versions |
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| 22:44.04 | jmcnaught | dmarr: can you use gcc 6? it's in stretch. |
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| 22:45.14 | dmarr | jmcnaught: yes, if i can build a node image based off stretch successfully |
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| 22:46.00 | jmcnaught | dmarr: you're going to be a lot more successful using Debian stable than you will be with an unsupported mix of oldstable and unstable. Debian is not designed to be able to mix releases like that |
| 22:46.38 | dmarr | jmcnaught: not sure if you are familiar with docker (i'm not very) but i am going to play with this Dockerfile and see if i can just s/jessie/stretch https://github.com/nodejs/docker-node/blob/9312dc99801f8da64f8c0fc970dc4b6083fa71f1/8.3/Dockerfile |
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| 22:50.35 | jmcnaught | dmarr: honestly i'm not a big fan of docker or node.js but since it seems to be building from source I don't see why you couldn't make it work with stretch |
| 22:51.18 | dmarr | jmcnaught: that did get me past my compilation error! |
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| 22:52.07 | jmcnaught | dmarr: have you tried building node.js from source in stretch that isn't a docker container? |
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| 22:53.08 | jmcnaught | Debian doesn't actually have official Docker images as far as I know, so whatever 'Debian' image that is based on may actually be substantially different from Debian |
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| 22:55.32 | zann3 | Hey, anyone know does debian have cross compatible encryption tool that works with openbsd? |
| 22:56.11 | nkuttler | zann3: gpg? |
| 22:56.29 | zann3 | oops mean container/full disk |
| 22:56.36 | zann3 | unless gpg can achieve that |
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| 22:58.43 | dondelelcaro | zann3: not to my knowledge, though there was some noise about LUKS patches to *bsd |
| 22:59.45 | dondelelcaro | zann3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disk_encryption_software#Operating_systems has a table with some of them listed |
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| 23:00.44 | dmarr | jmcnaught: i haven't.. i don't know how i would without procuring another machine |
| 23:01.00 | dmarr | but thanks for the headsup |
| 23:01.35 | dondelelcaro | zann3: but I'd be leery of any of the non-luks/non-softraid implementations |
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| 23:02.31 | zann3 | right thanks for info, I need to check that luks noise |
| 23:03.09 | sandmaniandevil | hello |
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| 23:04.11 | dmarr | jmcnaught: there is at least an official node:stretch image from the node people |
| 23:04.12 | sandmaniandevil | I have never used IRC before |
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| 23:04.44 | dmarr | i konw that doesn't mean much to you, but at least its less janky for me than maintaining a docker image |
| 23:04.57 | sandmaniandevil | anyone there ? |
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| 23:06.02 | sandmaniandevil | was wondering if anyone understands dirmngr |
| 23:06.21 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: what in particular about it? |
| 23:06.24 | sandmaniandevil | im used to using gnupg with gpg.conf as the default configuration file |
| 23:07.21 | dondelelcaro | please don't MSG me; keep it in the channel |
| 23:07.38 | sandmaniandevil | sorry bout that |
| 23:07.53 | sandmaniandevil | basically tho my issue is that I cant recieve remote keys |
| 23:08.05 | sandmaniandevil | I keep getting error saying tor not running |
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| 23:09.07 | sandmaniandevil | I ran "service tor restart" but I still get an error |
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| 23:10.36 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: and you're using an onion keyserver or --use-tor? |
| 23:11.45 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: again, please keep it in the channel |
| 23:12.05 | dondelelcaro | doesn't read MSGs |
| 23:12.15 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: I have the cert and everything and my setup was fine using gnupg-curl and parcimonie and a solid configuration file with strong cyphers |
| 23:12.33 | sandmaniandevil | sorry, new to IRC |
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| 23:12.59 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: that's OK; the reason why you write everything here is so other people can follow in case I leave |
| 23:13.11 | sandmaniandevil | understood |
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| 23:14.38 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: Before recently, I know gpg defaulted to gpg.conf now my gpg.conf is obsolete and i cant --recv-keys |
| 23:14.41 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: so you're using the sks keyserver with use-tor in your ~/.dirmngr or started with --use-tor? |
| 23:14.49 | sandmaniandevil | correct |
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| 23:15.10 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: right, gpg uses gpg.conf still but obtaining keys is done using dirmngr |
| 23:15.53 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: okay does it spawn its own instance of tor ? because even manually starting it isnt working |
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| 23:16.44 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: no, it requires that tor be running |
| 23:17.16 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: okay, once its running I still recieve an error but not the "tor must be running error" |
| 23:17.26 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: cool; what's the error? |
| 23:17.37 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: now I get "no keyservers available" |
| 23:18.52 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: cool; if you just run dirmngr --verbose; and something like KS_SEARCH don@debian.org; what gets returned? |
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| 23:21.00 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: Hang on trying now |
| 23:21.06 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: Thanks by the way |
| 23:21.25 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: no problem |
| 23:22.09 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: it says "usage: dirmngr [options] --server" |
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| 23:22.50 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: dirmngr --verbose; just exists? |
| 23:22.54 | dondelelcaro | er, exits? |
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| 23:23.27 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: which version of dirmngr is this? |
| 23:23.28 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: my fault, ran that as a single line |
| 23:23.31 | dondelelcaro | ah |
| 23:24.03 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: That seemed to work fine |
| 23:24.07 | dondelelcaro | anyway, you should see it trying to connect to a keyserver and doing its thing |
| 23:24.21 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: cool. and dirmngr --use-tor --verbose; works too now? |
| 23:24.28 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: Returned information like fingerprint and whatnot |
| 23:24.31 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: yep |
| 23:25.29 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: Its running but how do I know its using my CA ? |
| 23:26.12 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: your CA? |
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| 23:26.45 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: certificate of authority from sks-keyserver pool |
| 23:27.38 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: it should be using that to verify the https certificate |
| 23:28.22 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: So im used to using like "gpg --recv-key 0x(desiredkey)" Im assuming that from now on I need to run "dirmngr --use-tor -verbose" first everytime ? |
| 23:28.45 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: no; gpg will call dirmngr |
| 23:29.14 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: and (in theory) dirmngr will keep running and will be used for subsequent gpg calls |
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| 23:29.26 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: but it's easier to isolate dirmngr and figure out what is going on with it |
| 23:29.54 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: you can specify a CA with --hkp-cacert, AFAIK |
| 23:30.12 | dondelelcaro | sandmaniandevil: but I haven't tested whether that actually verifies it or just uses the system CAs |
| 23:30.33 | __[0_0]__ | This might sound strange, but does anyone know how to force a logical volume into a "suspended" state? ;) |
| 23:30.55 | sandmaniandevil | dondelelcaro: Excellent i really appreciate your help, Im gonna do some more research into dirmngr |
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| 23:34.27 | GriffusSilver | helo |
| 23:34.29 | GriffusSilver | hello |
| 23:34.32 | GriffusSilver | hello |
| 23:34.34 | GriffusSilver | hellop |
| 23:34.37 | GriffusSilver | hello |
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| 23:36.52 | aloo_shu | try ##chat |
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| 23:39.42 | Learnerwind | Hi sdcard mounts find on android but fails to mount on debian. |
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| 23:54.31 | aloo_shu | Learnerwind like sdcard in phone vs. sdcard in card reader slot or adapter on your computer? |
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| 23:56.22 | Learnerwind | Yes |
| 23:56.51 | Learnerwind | aloo_shu: yes. The more I work with it me more complicated it gets |
| 23:57.08 | Learnerwind | I am upgrading to see if it works |
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| 23:58.39 | aloo_shu | Leranerwind you could always just plug the phone over USB and tell it to function as a mass storage device |
| 23:58.53 | aloo_shu | also sometimes manufacturesrs make that difficult |
| 23:59.06 | aloo_shu | not a solution, but a workaraound.. |