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| 00:01.04 | nvz | ghormoon: read the file /proc/bus/input/devices it will tell you |
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| 00:02.57 | Henry252 | hi folks |
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| 00:03.05 | ghormoon | thanks, at least I can do some checks or maybe create some links myself (originally I've been using /dev/input/by-path but since debian 9 most devices are not there :( ) |
| 00:03.07 | paqcito | Hi. I'm running a Debian distro and following a tutorial, it says to run these commands. I can't understand them very well. Someone willing to help me out? https://pastebin.com/raw/VdvbsZsE |
| 00:03.21 | somiaj | !based on debian |
| 00:03.22 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 00:03.33 | Henry252 | I'm trying to real quick, slam-bam, install java 8 on this debian system so that my nephew can play minecraft cause he isn't happy with minetest |
| 00:03.39 | Henry252 | it's a skolelinux |
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| 00:03.48 | Henry252 | so it's pretty much debian, i think |
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| 00:04.32 | nvz | ghormoon: a beginning of a one-liner change the event number and it'll print the name modify to suit: egrep -B 4 "H*event0" /proc/bus/input/devices | grep N: |
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| 00:05.19 | Henry252 | i am trying apt-install openjdk-8-jre but getting an error, unmet dependencies, depends on openjdk-8-jre-headless |
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| 00:05.48 | Henry252 | when i try apt install open-jdk-8-jre-headless, i get more unmet dependencies |
| 00:05.58 | Henry252 | can anybody help me out with this? |
| 00:06.14 | somiaj | Henry252: read the factoid about based on debian that dpkg said up there |
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| 00:06.28 | ghormoon | nvz: yeah, something like it. or just find ID by name and set a variable (I'm passing touchpad toquoemu. once in 3-4 reoots, it's not on the same event4 :)) |
| 00:06.42 | ghormoon | *to qemu |
| 00:06.53 | Henry252 | somiaj: i thought that skolelinux was a debian pure blend |
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| 00:07.58 | Henry252 | anyway i understand if nobody can help but i figure it's probably something simple |
| 00:08.03 | somiaj | Henry252: didn't recognize it, it maybe a pure blend, but dependencies issues like that shouldn't be happening in stable. |
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| 00:08.20 | Henry252 | ok |
| 00:08.36 | annadane | Silvester, are you on a vpn? |
| 00:08.38 | Henry252 | i'll just try an update and upgrade |
| 00:08.41 | Henry252 | thanks |
| 00:09.04 | Silvester | annadane : I am not |
| 00:09.17 | Silvester | I am not using any sort of proxy or VPN right now |
| 00:09.21 | annadane | hm. because that's a known issue |
| 00:09.27 | annadane | i'm not sure, then |
| 00:09.46 | somiaj | Henry252: can you paste your apt-cache policy at paste.debian.net |
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| 00:12.13 | Silvester | I am sharing my IP with unknown people in the neighbourhood because I have internet from a bootleg ISP here in eastern europe |
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| 00:12.28 | Silvester | so I suppose it is fair to believe my IP has been blacklisted for some reason |
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| 00:12.37 | Silvester | if someone knows how to hunt script kiddies and eventually skin them, let me know |
| 00:12.53 | Henry252 | hi somiaj |
| 00:12.58 | coruja | Debian Edu 9 Stretch is entirely based on Debian 9 Stretch; so the sources for all packages are available from the Debian archive. |
| 00:13.05 | Henry252 | where can I get my apt-cache policy? |
| 00:13.17 | somiaj | Henry252: you type it into a terminal, and share the output. |
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| 00:13.55 | Henry252 | http://termbin.com/vssa |
| 00:15.12 | somiaj | Henry252: I think your issue is how you have mixed in jessie and jessie-backports packages. since openjdk-8 is only in jessie-backports, you will need to include a -t jessie-backports when you install that. |
| 00:15.39 | Henry252 | somiaj: awesome! |
| 00:15.40 | Henry252 | thank you! |
| 00:16.02 | Henry252 | I've got an apt upgrade running right now, is it safe to interrupt with a ctrl-c or should i just let it finish? |
| 00:16.06 | disi | can a user exist but not be in /etc/passwd? (no LDAP or AD) |
| 00:16.58 | somiaj | Henry252: you don't want to include -t jessie-backports in an upgrade, this will pull in stuff you may not want and are fully tested. |
| 00:17.11 | somiaj | Henry252: you need to manage which packages you install from jessie and jessie-backports. |
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| 00:17.21 | Henry252 | i understand |
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| 00:18.00 | somiaj | once you install stuff rom jessie-backports it will upgrade that if there is an upgrade, but it won't upgrade packages you don't specificy to be upgraded. In general only install stuff from jessie-backports you really need. |
| 00:18.09 | Henry252 | I'm just wondering if I should let this apt upgrade finish before i do the apt install -t jessie-backports openjdk-jre-8 or if it's ok to interrupt an apt upgrade |
| 00:18.23 | Henry252 | it's almost done anyway |
| 00:18.27 | Henry252 | so i'll let it finish |
| 00:18.30 | somiaj | if it is just downloading packages you can intrupt, otherwise leave alone. |
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| 00:19.58 | Henry252 | thanks somiaj |
| 00:20.00 | Henry252 | awesome |
| 00:20.07 | Henry252 | i'm out, be back later as henry151 |
| 00:22.14 | allan_wind | logrotate runs `invoke-rc.d syslog-ng reload` and it fails with policy-rc.d denied execution of reload. How do I figure out why policy-rc.d syslog-ng reload 5 is denied? |
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| 00:25.36 | allan_wind | heh |
| 00:25.46 | allan_wind | exit 101 |
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| 00:30.25 | allan_wind | k, how do I figure what installed /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d? dpkg -S and apt-file doesn't turn anything, and I don't have that file on a newly installed machine |
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| 00:32.41 | somiaj | if something in /usr/sbin is not registered in dpkg -S, |
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| 00:33.05 | somiaj | then it is either a bug, left behind due to a bug, or from something besides a debian package. |
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| 00:35.02 | somiaj | I'm not finding any package in debian that owns a file /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d, you could also look at apt-file for more info |
| 00:35.56 | allan_wind | yeah, I did, moved it aside and my reload now works |
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| 00:46.40 | allan_wind | I am pretty sure this is a bug, but I am not sure how to report it without knowing the package. My guess would be file-rc which is what ships /usr/sbin/update-rc.d. Should I file it against syslog-ng so there is a record of it? |
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| 02:38.53 | Maid-Chan | ...i just realized a problem. my psu has 2 sata outs. my motherboard has 2 sata connections...so how am i supposed to connect both harddrives AND the dvd that will be used to launch clonezilla? |
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| 02:49.41 | slicepaperwords | I'm in a root jail for a clients website, is there any way to check available HD space without df? it's not installed and I have no access but I'm sure the HD is full and I'm losing functionality so I want to confirm |
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| 02:52.30 | nvz | slicepaperwords: there is not nearly enough information to answer that. If you're jailed you only have access to whats inside the jail, which you didnt specify. Also webservers setup this way often use quotas in which case actual disk space isnt necessarily the issue. |
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| 02:54.30 | nvz | slicepaperwords: tune2fs -l /dev/sda1, and others are options but only if you have those programs and you also need access to /dev/ and /proc/ for most of them |
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| 02:55.40 | slicepaperwords | nvz, I don't have any access to anything but what's in the jail no sorry, also I am getting disk quota exceeded error when I try to add to or copy a file. |
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| 02:56.22 | slicepaperwords | I just want to confirm there is nothing I can do on my end, it's just a side gig for a non profit |
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| 02:56.40 | nvz | slicepaperwords: then you already know that your quota is full, and even if you had any utils they wouldnt work because they couldnt access /dev/ or /proc/ one or both would be required to get the info those utilities provide |
| 02:56.48 | slicepaperwords | nvz, no I have no access to those dirs. |
| 02:57.27 | nvz | slicepaperwords: df, tune2fs, or any other util need to be able to open the device node or read data from /proc/ or they wouldnt work anyhow |
| 02:57.38 | slicepaperwords | nvz, okay then I was right, drunk me can do it! |
| 02:57.40 | allan_wind | slicepaperwords: well, you could fill up the disk till you run out of disk space ;-) |
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| 02:58.26 | slicepaperwords | allan_wind, I can't even add a line to a php file without getting the disk quota exceeded error |
| 02:58.32 | nvz | slicepaperwords: if you're really drunk you should logout.. I dont really drink myself, dont care for it.. but I made a rule to never login as root on anything when I'm intoxicated :P |
| 02:59.09 | nvz | slicepaperwords: you need a server admin if you've reached your quota, this is the whole reason jails and quotas exist, if you hit a limit you cant do anything about it |
| 02:59.44 | slicepaperwords | nvz, ha I'm fine obviously I have no access to the server, just the site.. and I have backups haha |
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| 03:00.21 | nvz | slicepaperwords: well, you're better than me then.. I dont think I've every backed anything up in my life :-P at least not of mine |
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| 03:01.31 | slicepaperwords | nvz, haha I didn't do it, I got asked to fix the site for a server transfer a few months back and now asked to look at it for this issue, the backups were already there |
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| 03:04.33 | nvz | well now that I think if it, I do backups on my palmos device cause those things have a high tendancy to crash or run out of power and lose data and its really annoying.. but other than that I classify data as material and dont put much value on those things |
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| 03:46.59 | veek | how do you do sudo -u veek -- '/usr/bin/wine' '/home/veek/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Tracker Software/PDF Viewer/PDFXCview.exe' %s in kcmviewer4 |
| 03:47.57 | veek | kcmshell4 filetypes |
| 03:48.33 | klys | if it doesn't let you then make a script and stuff it in /usr/local/bin |
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| 04:25.58 | Kobaz | anyone know of another app similar to autokeys |
| 04:26.26 | Kobaz | i kind of remmeber an app back in the day called hotkeys for setting up special keys on a laptop (volume, etc)... can't seem to find it |
| 04:26.47 | Kobaz | autokeys seems cool, but it's completely broken on stretch |
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| 04:34.03 | Kobaz | xbindkeys maybe |
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| 05:30.30 | darxmurf | morning |
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| 05:32.36 | linuxlike | buongiorno |
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| 05:32.53 | linuxlike | ho un problema con debian 9, o meglio ho bisogno di aiuto per una modifica |
| 05:33.42 | towo^work | then you should ask in english |
| 05:35.12 | linuxlike | sorry |
| 05:35.26 | linuxlike | i use lamp in debian 9 |
| 05:35.34 | linuxlike | with php7.0 |
| 05:35.43 | linuxlike | i need to use php5.4 for compatibility with my app.... |
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| 05:36.08 | linuxlike | developer reccomend me to use docker for production with php5.4 container ( with ioncube loader ) |
| 05:36.44 | linuxlike | i want ask you if possible to remove php7.0 and install php5.4 without any issue / corruption of packet in my distribution system... |
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| 05:36.57 | linuxlike | any one can reccomend me best solution ??? ( stable solution ) |
| 05:37.13 | linuxlike | actually my server run about 5 webapp |
| 05:37.21 | linuxlike | only 1 need to use php 5.4 |
| 05:37.37 | linuxlike | but i think other app work fine also with php5.4 |
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| 05:41.26 | darxmurf | well, why is your code not running on PHP 7 ? |
| 05:41.57 | linuxlike | is old code builded with ioncube for php5.4 |
| 05:42.05 | linuxlike | o php 5.5 o 5.6 |
| 05:42.23 | linuxlike | i have a message that ( not work on php 7.0 ) |
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| 05:45.45 | darxmurf | upgrade your code :D |
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| 05:47.24 | linuxlike | is encrypted and i have not the code in my hand.... |
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| 06:00.31 | gasull | Hi. I get this error when using addgroup: |
| 06:00.31 | gasull | groupadd: failure while writing changes to /etc/group |
| 06:00.31 | gasull | addgroup: `/usr/sbin/groupadd -g 1002 davfs2' returned error code 10. Exiting. |
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| 06:04.35 | gasull | How can I troubleshoot this? |
| 06:05.07 | pingfloyd | gasull: you ran with root privs? |
| 06:05.17 | gasull | yes |
| 06:05.24 | gasull | I tried sudo first, then su. |
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| 06:06.02 | linuxlike | gasull, you have this issue with root user ? |
| 06:06.11 | gasull | yes |
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| 06:06.59 | darxmurf | gasull: if you run: grep davfs2 /etc/group |
| 06:07.04 | darxmurf | do you have any result ? |
| 06:07.15 | linuxlike | this fix |
| 06:07.16 | linuxlike | http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6f704fa90101hbar.html |
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| 06:07.43 | gasull | darxmurf: No results |
| 06:08.09 | darxmurf | and: lsattr /etc/group |
| 06:08.36 | linuxlike | guys any help with change pp version ??any suggest ? |
| 06:08.52 | gasull | # lsattr /etc/group |
| 06:08.52 | gasull | -------------e-- /etc/group |
| 06:09.27 | gasull | darxmurf: I guess I need to change the attributes as linuxlike says. |
| 06:09.38 | darxmurf | don't think soo |
| 06:09.39 | darxmurf | so |
| 06:09.40 | darxmurf | :-) |
| 06:09.51 | darxmurf | is your filesystem mounted read-write ? |
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| 06:10.54 | darxmurf | as root, try this: touch /etc/group |
| 06:10.58 | darxmurf | do you have any error message ? |
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| 06:12.04 | gasull | darxmurf: no error with touch |
| 06:12.23 | gasull | also: |
| 06:12.23 | gasull | # chattr -i /etc/group |
| 06:12.23 | gasull | # lsattr /etc/group |
| 06:12.24 | gasull | -------------e-- /etc/group |
| 06:13.01 | darxmurf | the chattr command was useless in your case :-) |
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| 06:14.48 | darxmurf | lsattr /etc/gshadow ? |
| 06:15.51 | gasull | # lsattr /etc/gshadow |
| 06:15.51 | gasull | -------------e-- /etc/gshadow |
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| 06:21.14 | darxmurf | do you have a file : /etc/group.lock ? |
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| 06:22.23 | gasull | /etc/group /etc/group- /etc/group+ /etc/group.org |
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| 06:43.18 | trap-maid | so, i just cloned a full 500G drive to a 1T drive using clonezilla. new drive works but df -h stll shows sda as being pretty much full. did i miss a step? |
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| 06:46.45 | Iridos | well, you're basically transferring the disk image |
| 06:46.55 | Iridos | and the image keeps its size |
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| 06:47.06 | boser | hello. i get a messages, that my '/var' is full. I have debian 8, what can i do/delete, to get more spaces back? |
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| 06:47.40 | Iridos | trap-maid, you can probably resize the partition with gparted on the new drive |
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| 06:48.05 | trap-maid | i can apt that right? or is tha only available as a live dvd? |
| 06:49.38 | Iridos | boser, mmh, probably apt-cache clean … but that is a very temporary measure |
| 06:50.39 | Iridos | that basically deletes the .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ … but that can/will fill up quickly again |
| 06:50.50 | Iridos | and the size of that archive is capped anyway |
| 06:50.58 | towo^work | i would oracle, the logs are filling /var, but without exact infos ... |
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| 06:51.23 | trap-maid | is it normal for sda1 to be fat32? |
| 06:51.40 | towo^work | trap-maid, it's your system |
| 06:51.50 | towo^work | no one knows it besides you |
| 06:52.05 | TeslasMHD | towo^work: Try to see with du -sh /var/* which directory fills up all the space. |
| 06:52.23 | towo^work | TeslasMHD, i do not have a problem with /var |
| 06:52.31 | trap-maid | on original install i did a clean install from the debian cd. then i cloned that. i'm asking if something went wrong at one of these two steps. i did NOT create a fat32. |
| 06:52.36 | boser | excusie me, what i do now: |
| 06:52.41 | boser | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.41 | boser | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.41 | boser | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.41 | boser | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.41 | boser | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:53.10 | TeslasMHD | towo^work: Sorry, I mean boser. :-) |
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| 06:53.14 | towo^work | trap-maid, you use EFI? |
| 06:53.22 | trap-maid | no idea. |
| 06:53.44 | towo^work | trap-maid, do you think anyone here has a crystalball? |
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| 06:53.57 | trap-maid | well anyway if i leave the fat32 swap is between where my data is and the unalocated space is. tht's goin to caus eissu eisn't it? |
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| 06:54.11 | boser | thats the '/var' with 'ls -lisa' |
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| 06:54.23 | TeslasMHD | boser: Try du -sh /var/* to see the space each directoy uses in /var. |
| 06:54.40 | TeslasMHD | boser: As root user. |
| 06:55.20 | trap-maid | towo^work: i don't expect anyone to have a crystal ball. i said that i'm using completely stock install off a clean HDD. |
| 06:55.28 | trap-maid | everything automated. |
| 06:56.06 | towo^work | trap-maid, again, it's your system, you should know if your system is using EFI or BIOS |
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| 06:56.09 | trap-maid | however now tht i look again sda1 (fat32) is mapped to /boot/efi |
| 06:56.34 | trap-maid | well i think it's using bios. it looks like he boot screen i see on eveyr othe computer. |
| 06:57.11 | towo^work | trap-maid, try think again, if you have /boot/efi, you propably use efi instead of bios |
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| 06:57.49 | trap-maid | all i know is tha it's the blue screen with options that everyone i've ever known in industry calls bios. |
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| 06:58.24 | trap-maid | anyway tha's unimportant. is swap being betwen my partition and the free space gona screw me? |
| 06:58.26 | towo^work | trap-maid, no, that is called grub |
| 06:58.36 | trap-maid | no before grub |
| 06:58.37 | towo^work | and is even used with efi |
| 06:58.47 | trap-maid | the "press delete to enter system setup" thing |
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| 06:59.05 | trap-maid | if you are going to be condecending maybe actually read what i say? |
| 06:59.32 | boser | TeslasMHD: http://paste.debian.net/983628 |
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| 07:00.14 | trap-maid | yep...i cant resize sda2 becaue of swap and i can't move swap... >.< |
| 07:00.42 | TeslasMHD | boser: There you see that /var/cache uses all the space (1.6 Gigabyte). |
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| 07:01.44 | boser | TeslasMHD: can i delete complete the '/var/cache' ? Or are they importeneds files? |
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| 07:02.44 | TeslasMHD | boser: Don't delete it. Run du -sh /var/cache/* to see inside there which is is the largest directory. |
| 07:04.16 | boser | it is /var/cache/apt with 1,6 GB. |
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| 07:05.10 | TeslasMHD | boser: Run apt-cache clean as root. You should think of maximazing your partition holding /var. |
| 07:05.36 | boser | and there the archives |
| 07:05.46 | TeslasMHD | boser: I mean apt clean. |
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| 07:07.29 | TeslasMHD | boser: As root. |
| 07:07.35 | boser | ok, on jessie 'apt clean' doesn't work, bur 'apt-get clean' works. thanks for helping. |
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| 07:07.52 | boser | clear TeslasMHD |
| 07:08.08 | boser | s/bur/but |
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| 07:08.17 | trap-maid | it would be cool if there was a way to force my system to never exceed 1600x900 since my tv overscans anything eyond tht. but hey looks like using swapoff to allow me to do the modifications didn't kill my systme. |
| 07:08.44 | TeslasMHD | boser: 1,6GB get usually quick used for /var/cache/apt. Maybe think of a way to have a larger partition holding the directory /var. |
| 07:09.25 | Iridos | oh, right, it's apt-get clean… sorry 'bout that |
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| 07:09.45 | Iridos | I had looked at the man-page of apt-cache and wondered why it's not there |
| 07:09.58 | boser | thx for the hint. I will think about it. Thanks to all for the quick help. |
| 07:10.45 | TeslasMHD | boser: It will be filled up again after some updates or packages installed (after you downloaded approxemately 1,6GB). |
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| 07:11.59 | Iridos | boser, I think you can set a different limit for the size of that archive in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20archive |
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| 07:12.08 | boser | now i know where the problem is and can it defight. |
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| 07:13.23 | rudi_s | Shouldn't latest apt versions automatically clean that? |
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| 07:13.33 | boser | for the time, thx. Customer is calling me up. I have to leave the office. see you later. |
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| 07:14.10 | TeslasMHD | boser: Bye, boser. |
| 07:14.13 | rudi_s | Binary::apt::APT::Keep-Downloaded-Packages is now (since Stretch I think) set to "false", so deb files of installed packages should get deleted automatically. |
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| 07:15.02 | TeslasMHD | rudi_s: He still uses Jessie. |
| 07:15.33 | towo^work | rudi_s, and it would only do that, if he would use apt instead of apt-get |
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| 07:16.26 | Iridos | rudi_s, urgh. |
| 07:16.39 | Iridos | those packages do/did come handy sometimes |
| 07:16.57 | Iridos | not crazily often… well, mostly not… but it feels reassuring to have them |
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| 07:20.02 | rudi_s | towo^work: Why is apt vs. apt-get relevant here? |
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| 07:20.18 | rudi_s | Iridos: That's why I have set it to "true" in my apt.conf, but the default changed. |
| 07:20.23 | rudi_s | TeslasMHD: Ah sorry, missed that. |
| 07:20.25 | towo^work | because apt is cleaning the cache, apt-get is not |
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| 07:20.45 | rudi_s | towo^work: But isn't this a general APT option which is respected by both apt and apt-get? |
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| 07:20.52 | towo^work | try it out |
| 07:20.56 | rudi_s | Or is it really just the apt program? |
| 07:21.25 | rudi_s | Ah, I guess "Binary::apt::" means it applies only to apt. Interesting, didn't know that. |
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| 07:21.54 | rudi_s | Thanks, will update my comment. |
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| 07:29.56 | shtrb | yes |
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| 08:29.18 | Iridos | rudi_s, yeah, but it won't change for me because I won't install new systems, just do upgrades… so… thanks, I don't think I would have learned that for the next couple of years if you hadn't said :) |
| 08:29.46 | andre144k | hello all - someone knows how to use "grep" with excluding files which contains in complete path "log"? i want grep all files which dont have *log* in path/filename |
| 08:30.31 | Iridos | all files what |
| 08:30.48 | andre144k | all iles which contains "hallo" |
| 08:31.04 | andre144k | where no *log* in path/filename |
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| 08:31.46 | Iridos | all files on the whole system? |
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| 08:32.16 | Iridos | all files in one directory? |
| 08:32.19 | andre144k | from current directory |
| 08:32.21 | Iridos | all files below one directory? |
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| 08:33.29 | andre144k | yes! |
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| 08:34.46 | Iridos | that were two questions… |
| 08:35.21 | Iridos | assuming it's just the ones in one directory… |
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| 08:35.41 | Iridos | "shopt extglob" must show "extglob on" for this to work |
| 08:36.08 | Iridos | if it's off, you can switch it on with shopt -s extglob |
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| 08:36.16 | Iridos | then the shell does the thing |
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| 08:36.21 | Iridos | for any command |
| 08:36.32 | Iridos | e.g. ls -d !(*log*) |
| 08:36.50 | Iridos | or, of course also grep hellp !(*log*) |
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| 08:41.44 | rudi_s | Iridos: np - it will change for you if you use `apt` also on upgraded systems. |
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| 08:43.54 | andre144k | Iridos, u have a complete example? |
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| 08:44.10 | andre144k | i founded myself a way: grep -H hallo `find -type f | grep -Ev log` |
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| 08:44.24 | andre144k | maybe there exists a better way |
| 08:45.39 | jelly | !using find |
| 08:45.40 | dpkg | from memory, using find is http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind or "man find" |
| 08:46.23 | jelly | andre144k: find -type f \! -name '*log*' -exec grep -H hallo {} + |
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| 08:46.53 | jelly | andre144k: read about "Operations in bulk" from the wiki linked above |
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| 08:48.00 | jelly | prefers find ... -print0 | xargs -0 ... instead of -exec, less things to remember and have to potentially escape |
| 08:48.47 | jelly | so in this case it would be something like: find -type f \! -name '*log*' -print0 | xargs -0 grep -H hallo |
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| 08:53.45 | andre144k | thx jelly |
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| 08:54.51 | choice | Hello! Why do I have "Linux Kernel Headers for development" installed? What is that? |
| 08:55.05 | andre144k | jelly, thats with using -print0 ? |
| 08:56.09 | petn-randall | choice: They are likely used when you have non-free drivers that need to be built, for example nvidia graphics. |
| 08:56.44 | choice | petn-randall: Those are built from source? |
| 08:57.02 | petn-randall | choice: Usually, yes. |
| 08:57.14 | petn-randall | choice: They build against the kernel headers. |
| 08:57.33 | choice | nvidia provides sourcecode for their drivers? |
| 08:57.47 | petn-randall | choice: No. |
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| 08:58.15 | petn-randall | choice: But the glue bits between the binary blob from nvidia and the kernel needs compiling. |
| 08:58.22 | choice | Why? |
| 08:58.39 | petn-randall | choice: No idea, ask them why they don't provide source. |
| 08:58.55 | choice | I mean why needs the glue to be compiled. |
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| 08:59.02 | sandieg | hi good morning ! |
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| 08:59.33 | sandiego | Guys can you tell me why fglrx-driver isnt installing , ? |
| 08:59.49 | BCMM | choice: the kernel doesn't provide a long-term stable interface for kernel modules |
| 09:00.00 | sandiego | it askes xorg-video-abi-xx |
| 09:00.08 | choice | BCMM: What does that mean? |
| 09:00.10 | BCMM | choice: but that's ok, because kernel modules are usually built at the same time as the kernel anyway |
| 09:00.10 | sandiego | i try to install em , says not installable |
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| 09:00.38 | BCMM | choice: it means you can't take a kernel module made for kernel A and load it in to kernel B |
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| 09:00.51 | BCMM | choice: where a and b are different versions of the linux kernel |
| 09:01.07 | choice | BCMM: So the modules get recompiled when the kernel is updated? |
| 09:01.12 | BCMM | choice: yes |
| 09:01.21 | choice | Interesting. Thanks for the info. |
| 09:01.22 | sandiego | && proprietary drivers, asks me Xorg 6.9 im running Xserver 1.19.2_64a |
| 09:01.51 | BCMM | choice: most kernel modules are "in tree" - they live with the kernel source code and get built when the linux kernel is built (i.e. by debian's infrastructure, before you download it) |
| 09:02.35 | BCMM | choice: however, there a few odds and ends are maintained separately from the Linux kernel by 3rd parties |
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| 09:03.00 | BCMM | choice: there's a nice system in debian called dkms, which will automatically recompile those 3rd-party drivers when you install a new kernel |
| 09:03.12 | BCMM | and you probably have the kernel headers around to enable that |
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| 09:04.42 | sandiego | ?? fglrx |
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| 09:04.49 | sandiego | !ask fglrx |
| 09:04.58 | sandiego | how does the bot works nowdays |
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| 09:05.57 | petn-randall | sandiego: Depends on what you want to achieve. There are several bots. |
| 09:06.09 | petn-randall | !fglrx |
| 09:06.09 | dpkg | fglrx / AMD Catalyst is the proprietary display driver for AMD Radeon R9 200 series, Radeon R7 200 series, Radeon HD 8000/7000/6000/5000 and FirePro graphic processing units. To install fglrx, see https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary or ask me about <fglrx dkms>. This driver is incompatible with the GNOME desktop of Debian 8 "Jessie" due to lack of EGL support (ref. §5.11 <jessie release notes>), use the <radeon> driver instead. |
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| 09:06.54 | sandiego | well: petn-randall : im trying to acchieve 3D accel on grafics r9 fury |
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| 09:07.51 | sandiego | brb |
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| 09:08.44 | sandiego | im trying final setup driver "radeon" |
| 09:08.48 | sandiego | ;) |
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| 09:31.45 | Murda | Any nice guide how to set up chrooted sftp/ssh user? |
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| 09:35.34 | rjsalts | Murda: I've seen answers on serverfault that weren't too horrible |
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| 09:37.25 | rjsalts | Murda: https://debian-administration.org/article/590/OpenSSH_SFTP_chroot_with_ChrootDirectory seems okay |
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| 09:40.24 | amd_0x51 | what is a reasonable DPI setting to get a universal font size |
| 09:40.35 | amd_0x51 | iv got it at 101 x 102 right now but too small |
| 09:41.09 | amd_0x51 | and why does nvidia make the fonts so large when you install it? |
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| 09:44.15 | rjsalts | Trap-Chan: you can rename it, you might break things though |
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| 09:46.37 | rjsalts | Trap-Chan: see man 7 capabilities |
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| 09:50.56 | amd_0x51 | here is a paste of my xorg log. where can I find more info on how to correctly set fonts so I don't have to lean right into my screens lol |
| 09:50.57 | amd_0x51 | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/fe23dc48/ |
| 09:50.59 | amd_0x51 | tia |
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| 09:56.29 | c75 | Hi, is it possible to replace systemd with something else in a stretch install, or is switching to devuan the only option? Are there systemd-free ISOs of debian like there are ISOs with xfce or proprietary firmware baked in? |
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| 09:58.09 | ntinos | http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Debian_Stretch |
| 09:58.38 | jelly | !stretch sysvinit |
| 09:58.38 | dpkg | To replace systemd with sysvinit in stretch, simply "apt-get install sysvinit-core" and reboot. To switch from systemd to runit, "apt-get install runit-systemd", reboot, "apt-get install runit-init", and reboot again. |
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| 09:59.36 | c75 | thanks |
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| 10:17.51 | lmmin | Hi. Is it possible to install KDE4 in Debian 9 instead KDE5? Thanks. |
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| 10:20.58 | themill | lmmin: no |
| 10:21.52 | lmmin | <themill> Thank you. |
| 10:22.29 | ntinos | You could always try using Jessie repos (with low pin-priority of course). |
| 10:22.40 | ntinos | Though except stuff to get broken. |
| 10:22.46 | towo^work | that would not work even |
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| 10:25.14 | lmmin | <ntinos> <towo^work> Thanks. |
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| 10:29.26 | Agiofws | how do i find the version of a package using the command line? |
| 10:29.33 | Agiofws | an installed package |
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| 10:31.21 | vlt | Agiofws: `dpkg -l <package>` might help. |
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| 11:02.11 | Eternal | hello. Whats the name of the current debian testing distribution? |
| 11:02.55 | Eternal | I mean codename |
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| 11:03.06 | towo^work | buster |
| 11:04.55 | Eternal | thx |
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| 11:23.31 | Agiofws | does debian use xinetd to restart services? |
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| 11:24.56 | McErroneous | where do i find additional sound-themes for my gnome-desktop ? only 4 or 5 themes appears to be somewhat lacking..., or poor.... as not rich in features... |
| 11:25.03 | petn-randall | Agiofws: No, unless you configure it to do so. |
| 11:25.14 | Agiofws | ok |
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| 11:25.30 | tdn | I am trying to publish and sign my packages on a custom repos but when I run reprepro, it says: "gpgme gave error GPGME:11: Bad passphrase" without prompting me for password. I have tried adding --ask-passphrase to reprepro, but it does not seem to have an effect. What to do? |
| 11:25.34 | tdn | This is what I have in my Makefile to upload the package: scp *.deb $(UPLOAD):$(UPLOAD_DIR) && ssh -CY $(UPLOAD) "cd $(REPOS_DIR) && for deb in $(UPLOAD_DIR)/*.deb; do reprepro --keepunreferencedfiles includedeb $(OSRELEASE) \$$deb; done; rm -f $(UPLOAD_DIR)/*.deb" |
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| 11:27.07 | bs0d | Hello community. I'd like to install debian on Odroid C2. Does arm64 version contain all the necessary drivers? |
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| 11:27.47 | aptDeb | hi , how to remove totem player only from debian? |
| 11:28.50 | towo^work | "only from debian"? |
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| 11:29.08 | aptDeb | only remove totem, not gnome-core |
| 11:29.21 | bazhang | size 232 kB |
| 11:29.27 | bazhang | thats tiny |
| 11:30.22 | towo^work | aptDeb, if gnome-core will be removed, ket it go |
| 11:30.33 | towo^work | it's only a metapackage |
| 11:30.45 | phasta | I don't get it. Why not apt remove totem? |
| 11:30.52 | aptDeb | like ie in windows? |
| 11:31.21 | towo^work | phasta, because gnome-core will be removed too? |
| 11:31.33 | towo^work | aptDeb, what "like in windoes"? |
| 11:32.06 | aptDeb | I mean IE browser cannot being removed from Windows system |
| 11:32.23 | towo^work | totem can |
| 11:32.27 | aptDeb | totem cannot being removed from Debian? |
| 11:32.28 | towo^work | apt purge totem |
| 11:32.35 | towo^work | where is the problem? |
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| 11:33.02 | petn-randall | aptDeb: If you want to remove totem, do just that. I'm assuming you're running 'apt autoremove' and it's suggesting to remove more packages? |
| 11:33.16 | petn-randall | aptDeb: In that case you have to mark all packages you want to keep as manually installed. |
| 11:33.36 | nadersith | you can use this: |
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| 11:34.00 | nadersith | sudo apt-mark manual $(grep -vE "^\s*#" packageList.txt | tr "\n" " ") |
| 11:34.13 | aptDeb | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 11:34.16 | aptDeb | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:34.18 | aptDeb | The above is the information tipped after 'apt-get purge totem' |
| 11:34.18 | nadersith | but first do this: |
| 11:34.26 | towo^work | aptDeb, and? |
| 11:34.27 | nadersith | apt-get —dry-run autoremove | grep -Po '^Remv \K[^ ]+' > packageList.txt |
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| 11:34.42 | petn-randall | aptDeb: Use a paste site like https://paste.debian.net please. |
| 11:34.43 | towo^work | gnome-core does not contain anything besides depends to some packages |
| 11:34.48 | nadersith | sorry |
| 11:35.20 | Zualg | hi. i would like my debian machine to be ssh'able on my lan and at the same time have an wireless internet connection coming from a router that is not in that lan. problem is that as soon as wlan0 has an ip and inet connection, eth0 (lan) loses its ip |
| 11:35.38 | Zualg | or vice versa eth0 (lan) has a local ip but then wlan0 is not connected to the internet anymore |
| 11:35.48 | Zualg | maybe it has to do with dhclient, I am not sure; could anyone help? |
| 11:35.57 | petn-randall | Zualg: Sounds like both interfaces get a default route via DHCP. |
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| 11:36.42 | Zualg | petn-randall: yes, I think it has to do with dhcp, but I don't know how to fix it |
| 11:37.11 | Zualg | in my /etc/network/interfaces I commented out the lines allow-hptlug eth0 / iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 11:37.18 | petn-randall | bs0d: Looks like the odroid C2 needs some proprietary kernel blobs to work. |
| 11:37.29 | Zualg | so now there is only auto lo / iface lo inet loopback in there |
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| 11:37.41 | petn-randall | Zualg: And then? |
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| 11:38.11 | Zualg | petn-randall: then restarted networking.. but it still doesnt work |
| 11:38.34 | petn-randall | Zualg: So you have eth0/wlan0 completely unconfigured ... and expect what now? |
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| 11:39.14 | petn-randall | Zualg: Restarting networking doesn't do what you'd expect, it doesn't bring interfaces down that you removed from /etc/network/interfaces. |
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| 11:39.30 | petn-randall | !restart networking |
| 11:39.30 | dpkg | From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards, the use of the networking init script to reload networking configuration («/etc/init.d/networking restart») is discouraged. Instead, perform the actions you really want. Re-apply changes from /etc/network/interfaces: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0. Remove all iptables rules: iptables -F. See also <mdblows>. |
| 11:40.11 | Posterdati | hi |
| 11:40.15 | Zualg | ok mom |
| 11:40.57 | Zualg | ifdown: interface eth0 not configured |
| 11:41.24 | ForceRecon | how do you launch gnupg |
| 11:41.37 | abrotman | ForceRecon: launch it to do what? |
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| 11:42.53 | ForceRecon | I want to send an encrypted message using a public key |
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| 11:43.16 | sandiego | guys hi! |
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| 11:43.22 | ForceRecon | I just can't seem to figure out how to send an email to a single contact and use their public key to encrypt the message |
| 11:43.45 | petn-randall | Zualg: Then it's unconfigured now. Is that what you want? |
| 11:43.49 | sandiego | im running debian strech! with vesa driver on X env , how do i setup it to run steam with 3D video accelaration ? |
| 11:44.20 | petn-randall | !steam |
| 11:44.20 | dpkg | Steam is a proprietary content delivery and management application for PC software with Linux support. Packaged in <non-free>; amd64 users are required to enable <multiarch> and install the steam:i386 package. For help with upstream issues, ask #steamlug on irc.freenode.net. http://wiki.debian.org/Steam |
| 11:44.42 | Zualg | petn-randall: no, i would like eth0 to be connected to my lan router |
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| 11:44.58 | sandiego | petn-randall, i have it all setup games are running with 60 fps 50 fps max i own a radeon r9 fury :( |
| 11:45.00 | Zualg | ifup eth0 says: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. |
| 11:45.23 | sandiego | direct rendering YES |
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| 11:47.23 | sandiego | native steam btw |
| 11:48.02 | sandiego | i tryed to install ati-driver-fglrx.run from ati website says my xorg is not 6.9 nor xserver is 1.10 ? |
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| 11:48.22 | sandiego | how to downgrade xorg or xserver from apt |
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| 11:49.27 | abrotman | VESA doesn't have accelerated Xorg |
| 11:49.28 | petn-randall | Zualg: You just removed the configuration lines from /etc/network/interfaces, of course "ifup eth0" won't work anymore. Let's step back a bit: You have a Debian machine, and that's connected via wlan0 and eth0 to networks. Are those the same networks? |
| 11:49.56 | sandiego | abrotman, how should i do |
| 11:50.10 | abrotman | how should you do what? |
| 11:50.13 | Zualg | petn-randall: no; eth0 is connected to my router which currently doesnt have inet access. wlan0 is connected to my phone which does |
| 11:50.21 | abrotman | sandiego: lspci -nn | grep -i vga .. what is your video card? |
| 11:50.38 | Zualg | (and the eventual goal is to use the machine as a proxy for inet) |
| 11:50.47 | sandiego | abrotman, scroll up |
| 11:51.01 | sandiego | VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Fiji [Radeon R9 FURY / NANO Series] [1002:7300] (rev cb) |
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| 11:51.22 | abrotman | did you install the firmware for the radeon cards? |
| 11:51.33 | petn-randall | Zualg: So you want to configure it to be a router? So the wlan0 will be a wifi AP and eth0 will be connected to the internet? |
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| 11:53.03 | sandiego | what is the name of the package |
| 11:53.07 | sandiego | abrotman, ? |
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| 11:53.24 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sandiego about radeon |
| 11:53.31 | Zualg | petn-randall: i will launch an ssh tunnel for eth0 to use the machine as a proxy basically |
| 11:53.50 | sandiego | yes |
| 11:54.00 | sandiego | dpkg: tell sandiego about radeon firmware |
| 11:54.29 | sandiego | firmware-linux-nonfree is already the newest version (0.43). |
| 11:54.33 | sandiego | MORE |
| 11:54.35 | sandiego | :) |
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| 11:57.17 | sandiego | dpkg tell sandiego about xorg-video-abi-19 not installable |
| 11:57.26 | sandiego | dpkg tell sandiego about xorg-video-abi-19 |
| 11:58.09 | sandiego | https://paste.debian.net/983664/ |
| 11:58.11 | sandiego | look this |
| 11:58.12 | sandiego | wired |
| 11:58.21 | sandiego | wierd :(( |
| 11:58.43 | Posterdati | please I have a problem with an i7 uefi machine... |
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| 12:01.19 | sandiego | and this when i try to install fglrx from the source : https://paste.debian.net/983665/ |
| 12:01.34 | sandiego | anyone advice me a good solution for this case? |
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| 12:10.07 | petn-randall | Zualg: That doesn't really answer my question. On which interface will it be connected to the internet? |
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| 12:10.08 | Zualg | petn-randall: on wlan0 |
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| 12:10.08 | petn-randall | Zualg: Ok, and eth0 will have it's own private subnet? |
| 12:10.08 | Zualg | yupp |
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| 12:39.17 | keiser_ | hi, I have an issue with caja/mate-desktop 1.18.3-1 running debian sid. When I log in to my account I see all the filesystems mounted in the left corner of caja and also on the desktop (efi, dev, hugepages, mqueue, pts, shm, proc, run, lock, 1000, sys, etc). It happened after I update debian yestarday. Is there a way to fix that? |
| 12:39.38 | keiser_ | Here is the screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/22QB6 |
| 12:40.27 | cruncher | keiser_, for sid you should go to #debian-next |
| 12:40.35 | cruncher | on oftc |
| 12:40.44 | keiser_ | ok, sorry |
| 12:40.47 | cruncher | np |
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| 12:45.26 | sandieg | dpkg tell about lndir |
| 12:45.39 | sandieg | what package provide lndir ? |
| 12:45.43 | sandieg | for shadow tree |
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| 12:46.43 | sandieg | dpkg: tell about sandieg lndir shadow tree |
| 12:46.51 | sandieg | wtf... |
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| 12:48.01 | jelly | sandieg: what is "lndir"? |
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| 12:49.22 | jelly | sandieg: a program, an executable filename? |
| 12:50.36 | yemel | meh... I've upgraded from jessie to stretch and my gtk3 theme that I wrote is completely broken and looks ugly... I see a lot of deprecated stuff there... this is so retarted. why gtk devs like to break their shit? |
| 12:51.45 | jelly | sandieg: if so, ask the other bot to search for it: /msg judd file bin/lndir |
| 12:51.54 | jelly | !apt-file |
| 12:51.55 | dpkg | apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file - or list files in a package - even if it is not installed: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regular expression; see man apt-file). You can also search online, ask me about <pdo>. See also <judd-file>, <auto-apt>, <dlocate>. |
| 12:52.34 | jelly | sandieg: or use apt-file |
| 12:52.57 | jelly | or search contents on packages.debian.org |
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| 12:54.19 | NNMPCDO | Hey. How long time take it to make package from test faze to stable faze ? 1 Year or more ? |
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| 12:54.59 | apollo13 | NNMPCDO: till the next release of debian, packages generally do not migrate from testing to stable at all afaik |
| 12:55.28 | sypher | It may wind up in backports, potentially. Depends on if its build requirements are satisfied. |
| 12:55.33 | petn-randall | NNMPCDO: When it's ready™. But usually the stable releases are around two years apart. |
| 12:55.40 | NNMPCDO | When googl-ing for faze cycles of Debian what it's good fair source of information? |
| 12:55.53 | petn-randall | NNMPCDO: What do you mean with "faze"? |
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| 12:56.09 | NNMPCDO | Cycle of release. |
| 12:56.56 | NNMPCDO | Faze as substitute of Cycle |
| 12:57.05 | petn-randall | NNMPCDO: Then what I said, very roughly every two years, give or take several months. |
| 12:58.09 | petn-randall | NNMPCDO: Here you can see the release history of previous releases: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
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| 12:59.16 | NNMPCDO | So in stable release package aren't update ? |
| 13:00.23 | NNMPCDO | Nor only secure update? |
| 13:02.08 | Cobalt | Anyone know why my udev rule to mkdir a directory in /media exits with exit code 1 and fails under Stretch but works in Jessie? |
| 13:04.02 | jelly | NNMPCDO: yes, with a very very small number of exceptions. Eg. web browsers. |
| 13:04.10 | jelly | ,v chromium |
| 13:04.11 | judd | Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; stretch: 59.0.3071.86-1; stretch-proposed-updates: 60.0.3112.78-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 60.0.3112.78-1~deb9u1; buster: 60.0.3112.78-1; sid: 60.0.3112.78-1 |
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| 13:05.29 | NNMPCDO | I want to contact whit some one, who make auto detection of Xorg server config - on open source driver and when in system are 2 or more Graphic card - and each has monitor - auto detection not work in clone mode |
| 13:06.59 | NNMPCDO | On 2 card switch between card nor and each Monitor work one on time not in clone mode |
| 13:07.00 | sandieg | is it available xorg 6.9 on apt package manager ? |
| 13:07.08 | sandieg | or higher |
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| 13:07.28 | jelly | ,v xserver-xorg-core |
| 13:07.29 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-core on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u7; jessie-security: 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1; jessie: 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1+b1; stretch: 2:1.19.2-1+deb9u1; stretch-security: 2:1.19.2-1+deb9u1; buster: 2:1.19.3-2; sid: 2:1.19.3-2 |
| 13:07.44 | jelly | sandieg: available for which release? |
| 13:07.49 | sandieg | streched |
| 13:07.52 | sandieg | strech |
| 13:08.06 | jelly | no, stretch has like 7.7 |
| 13:08.14 | sandieg | what package is it |
| 13:08.20 | jelly | ,v xorg |
| 13:08.21 | judd | Package: xorg on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:7.7+3~deb7u1; jessie: 1:7.7+7; buster: 1:7.7+19; sid: 1:7.7+19; stretch: 1:7.7+19 |
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| 13:08.36 | sandieg | pkg install xorg does the trick ? |
| 13:08.43 | jelly | !install x |
| 13:08.43 | dpkg | To install X in Debian: "aptitude update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To configure your X server, ask me about <xorg config>. |
| 13:09.01 | sandieg | no all i want is to install source ati/amd |
| 13:09.04 | sandieg | .run file |
| 13:09.19 | jelly | sandieg: why are you asking abour xorg then |
| 13:09.19 | towo^work | no, you won't do that |
| 13:09.31 | jelly | !goal |
| 13:09.31 | dpkg | Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is. |
| 13:09.45 | sandieg | my goal is to install 3D |
| 13:09.50 | sandieg | accel on fluxbox |
| 13:09.59 | sandieg | ati radeon r9 fury |
| 13:10.01 | jelly | sandieg: which graphic card do you have |
| 13:10.05 | sandieg | ati radeon r9 fury |
| 13:10.11 | NNMPCDO | :) |
| 13:10.12 | towo^work | install firmware-graphics-amd |
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| 13:10.23 | towo^work | don't try to install fglrx |
| 13:10.23 | jelly | sandieg: what does "lspci -nn |grep VGA" say? |
| 13:10.57 | sandieg | lspci -nn |grep VGA : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Fiji [Radeon R9 FURY / NANO Series] [1002:7300] (rev cb) |
| 13:11.16 | jelly | judd: pciid 1002:7300 |
| 13:11.17 | judd | [1002:7300] is 'Fiji [Radeon R9 FURY / NANO Series]' from 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'amdgpu' in stretch. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:7300 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 13:12.06 | jelly | sandieg: so you already have xorg and fluxbox running? |
| 13:13.18 | sandieg | yup |
| 13:13.23 | sandieg | jelly |
| 13:13.43 | rozie | hi. I'm looking for step by step tutorial how to make deb package from python module |
| 13:13.43 | sandieg | and warsow game actually opens |
| 13:13.52 | sandieg | and run with 30/50 fps |
| 13:13.53 | sandieg | not more |
| 13:14.02 | rozie | I'd like to install it debian way system wide |
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| 13:17.21 | sandieg | anyone, jelly |
| 13:18.42 | towo^work | sandieg, have you firmware-amd-graphics installed? |
| 13:18.48 | jelly | ,v firmware-amd-graphics |
| 13:18.49 | judd | Package: firmware-amd-graphics on amd64 -- jessie-backports/non-free: 20161130-3~bpo8+1; buster/non-free: 20161130-3; stretch/non-free: 20161130-3; sid/non-free: 20170823-1 |
| 13:18.53 | sandieg | towo^work, yes |
| 13:18.58 | sandieg | yes yes |
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| 13:19.07 | jelly | sandieg: and is libgl1-mesa-dri package installed? |
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| 13:19.25 | jelly | that's for free drivers |
| 13:19.54 | towo^work | sandieg, i would like to see you Xorg.0.log |
| 13:20.02 | towo^work | s/you/your |
| 13:20.46 | sandieg | https://paste.debian.net/983683/ |
| 13:22.16 | sandieg | towo^work, how do i copy to paste debian is to long the file |
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| 13:23.21 | towo^work | sandieg, apt install pastebinit && pastebinit < /path/to/Xorg.0.log |
| 13:23.31 | sandieg | moment |
| 13:23.37 | towo^work | sandieg, and again, you can't install fglrx on stretch |
| 13:24.05 | towo^work | sandieg, fglrx is dead and not maintained anymore by amd |
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| 13:26.08 | sandieg | sure |
| 13:26.16 | sandieg | i know that man |
| 13:27.10 | sandieg | towo^work, http://paste.debian.net/983686/ |
| 13:27.36 | towo^work | Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.9.0-3-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/murtas--vg-root nomodeset |
| 13:27.49 | towo^work | nomodeset <== then you wonder? |
| 13:28.00 | telnes | hello I try to test the noexec option on /tmp part but nothing change. here an example https://debian-administration.org/article/57/Making_/tmp_non-executable but for me ls work ok after mount |
| 13:28.15 | towo^work | radeon needs KMS |
| 13:28.24 | towo^work | without it, 3d can't work |
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| 13:29.06 | telnes | I use LVM part for /tmp. |
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| 13:29.27 | towo^work | sandieg, Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" |
| 13:29.37 | towo^work | sandieg, you don't need a xorg.conf |
| 13:29.45 | cruncher | telnes, did you type it exactly as in the example? use "/tmp/ls", not just "ls" |
| 13:29.51 | vlt | telnes: LVM doesn't matter here. |
| 13:30.09 | telnes | cruncher: ! no just ls :) |
| 13:30.14 | sandieg | deleted |
| 13:30.27 | sandieg | rerun x? |
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| 13:30.50 | telnes | Permission deniend \o/ |
| 13:30.51 | sandieg | towo^work, i just deleted xorg.conf |
| 13:30.57 | sandieg | should i rerun xorg now ? |
| 13:31.16 | telnes | cool thanks cruncher vlt |
| 13:31.16 | towo^work | sandieg, from your paste https://paste.debian.net/983683/ you should fix that |
| 13:31.25 | sandieg | fixed |
| 13:31.29 | towo^work | sandieg, and remove nomodeset |
| 13:31.30 | sandieg | now what is the name of the driver |
| 13:31.32 | vlt | telnes: Btw ... even when you are _in_ /tmp, running `ls` will use /bin/ls if you don't explicitly specify `./ls`. |
| 13:31.37 | sandieg | im using |
| 13:31.52 | towo^work | sandieg, you need xserver-xorg-video-ati installed |
| 13:32.07 | telnes | vlt: yes I understand my error |
| 13:32.40 | sandieg | done |
| 13:32.42 | sandieg | now ? |
| 13:33.02 | towo^work | reboot? |
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| 13:34.32 | sandieg | ok |
| 13:34.33 | sandieg | brb |
| 13:34.37 | sandieg | ty towo^work |
| 13:34.39 | sandieg | :) |
| 13:34.43 | sandieg | and jelly |
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| 13:53.22 | a0z | hi, i'm considering an ssd for my old 2011 laptop. once fitted, are there any special things i have to do to debian to get it to install and run okay? all my googling finds out-dated stuff about TRIM and wear-leveling. are these still a concern? |
| 13:54.18 | tremolo | I didn't do anything special when installing Stretch on my laptop with an SSD. |
| 13:54.22 | cruncher | a0z, you should activate trim, and depending on your partition layout also mount with noatime |
| 13:54.34 | cruncher | otherwise, installation is the same as with a hd |
| 13:54.47 | cruncher | also you should watch out that the partitions are aligned |
| 13:55.00 | cruncher | thats basically all basics :) |
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| 13:55.18 | cruncher | of course you can optimize more... |
| 13:56.18 | a0z | thx |
| 13:56.46 | petn-randall | Premature optimization is the root of all evil. |
| 13:57.25 | cruncher | a0z, maybe you want to check what brand before buying, as some brands offer firmware updater for linux, others dont, some have known trouble, etc |
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| 13:58.37 | a0z | cruncher: i ended up reading linux kernel source code at one point, linked from a page that was annoyed at samsung's ssd's |
| 13:58.48 | cruncher | but for a normal use, one time install, then only use, thats maybe too much information |
| 13:59.11 | cruncher | a0z, yes, exactly that page shows some models which arent supposed to be very compatible, resp. have some trouble. |
| 13:59.42 | cruncher | a0z, and im afraid i already gave too much information in this channel as this is offtopic |
| 14:00.23 | a0z | cruncher: thx; tremolo: thx |
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| 14:10.34 | Ormu | so nowadays even hard disks "need" firmware updates? |
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| 14:11.14 | qman__ | firmware updates for disks has been a thing for almost 20 years now |
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| 14:11.27 | transhuman | hi! quick question I have a debian live dvd, and two hard drives 1/2 TB and a 1TB I would like to as a backup clone 1/2 TB to 1TB drive, it appears to contain errors, would dd work in this case? |
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| 14:12.05 | petn-randall | transhuman: Which one contains errors? |
| 14:12.08 | jelly | transhuman: use dd_rescue or ddrescue to copy what you can |
| 14:12.13 | transhuman | clonzilla fails to copy the drive, also doesnt tell me even in the logs if its the source or destination |
| 14:12.23 | transhuman | ok thanks jelly |
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| 14:12.50 | petn-randall | transhuman: Looking into dmesg output usually helps finding the culprit. |
| 14:12.51 | jelly | and do it while the source is not mounted, or mounted read-only |
| 14:13.09 | transhuman | right of course read only thanks |
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| 14:13.20 | transhuman | I will look at dmesg thanks petn-randall |
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| 14:16.35 | transhuman | jelly dd_rescue seems just the right tool thanks |
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| 14:21.00 | sandiego | http://paste.debian.net/983697/ |
| 14:21.21 | sandiego | something wrong this time towo^work |
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| 14:24.12 | sandiego | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 14:24.13 | sandiego | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:24.13 | sandiego | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
| 14:24.21 | sandiego | ( |
| 14:24.23 | sandiego | :( |
| 14:26.46 | jelly | !basic apt troubleshooting |
| 14:26.46 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 14:26.49 | jelly | sandiego: ^^ |
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| 14:28.47 | sandiego | jelly: :P |
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| 14:29.47 | sandiego | the error: (EE) Fatal server error:(EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0(EE) (EE) Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. (EE) Please also check the log file at "/home/sandieg/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.(EE) (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. |
| 14:29.52 | sandiego | now the troubleshooting |
| 14:29.53 | sandiego | sec |
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| 14:29.58 | sandiego | using pastebin |
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| 14:31.23 | sandiego | just let me recap: xorg is installed ati is installed |
| 14:31.27 | sandiego | xinit intalled |
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| 14:31.34 | sandiego | startx says error screen |
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| 14:31.47 | sandiego | i also removed xorg.conf |
| 14:31.53 | sandiego | what might be the problem |
| 14:31.58 | petn-randall | sandiego: One step at a time. Start with the info you have been asked for first. |
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| 14:34.54 | sandiego | xserver-xorg-video-ati vs xserver-xorg-video-radeon . both installed or just one ? |
| 14:35.01 | sandiego | ahhh ok petn-randall ! :P starting |
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| 14:36.34 | jelly | sandiego: if you installed "xorg" package you would probably have both, and that's jsut fine |
| 14:37.01 | jelly | (xserver-xorg-video-all pulls in all the free 2D drivers) |
| 14:37.26 | jelly | (including xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu) |
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| 14:38.09 | sandiego | another businiss: .xinitrc |
| 14:38.15 | sandiego | do i need one ? |
| 14:38.18 | sandiego | for fluxbox |
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| 14:38.31 | sandiego | sandieg@murtas:~$ startfluxbox |
| 14:38.31 | sandiego | xmodmap: unable to open display '' |
| 14:38.32 | sandiego | Error: Couldn't connect to XServer passing null display |
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| 14:39.28 | sandiego | is not defined my $DISPLAY rofl |
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| 14:39.38 | sandiego | echo $DISPLAY |
| 14:39.46 | sandiego | post output plz jelly |
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| 14:39.54 | jelly | sandiego: sorry? |
| 14:40.17 | sandiego | jelly: post output of your "echo $DISPLAY" |
| 14:40.25 | sandiego | what does it say |
| 14:40.40 | jelly | I don't have any output to post. You however have some apt issues to solve apparently. |
| 14:41.12 | jelly | sandiego: that will depend of if you run it before X is started or inside a running X session |
| 14:41.28 | jelly | depend on* whether* |
| 14:41.29 | sandiego | why? |
| 14:41.37 | Murda | is there limit how big file I can transfer bia sftp? |
| 14:41.39 | Murda | via* |
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| 14:41.53 | sandiego | nvm |
| 14:41.59 | jelly | <sandiego> The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 14:41.59 | jelly | <sandiego> xserver-xorg-video-glamo : Depends: xorg-video-abi-18 |
| 14:42.27 | jelly | Murda: not really |
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| 14:48.18 | sandiego | i think i found mesa missing package |
| 14:48.19 | sandiego | :P |
| 14:48.21 | sandiego | ty |
| 14:48.45 | sandiego | Get:1 http://ftp.pt.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 libegl1-mesa amd64 13.0.6-1+b2 [112 kB] |
| 14:48.46 | sandiego | Get:2 http://ftp.pt.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 libgl1-mesa-dri amd64 13.0.6-1+b2 [4,536 kB] |
| 14:48.50 | sandiego | missing both |
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| 14:55.45 | petn-randall | A lot of noise, but still no debug info ... :| |
| 14:56.33 | jelly | they probably read the bit about libgl1-mesa-dri from hour and half back just now and fixed things |
| 14:58.23 | Cobalt | Hello. |
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| 14:59.11 | Cobalt | What would be the correct way of automagically mounting a connected USB external storage device to a mountpoint we would create under /media, and to (if accidentally) removed, will rmdir that mountpoint as well? |
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| 15:11.05 | jhutchins_wk | !fr |
| 15:11.05 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debianfr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debianfr. |
| 15:12.02 | frazr | Is amdccle control panel available for stretch? Trying to find a control panel gui, but cant seem to install it. |
| 15:12.04 | telnes | where can I found output code of apt-get ? I see 0 when no error and 100 when error but are there a doc somewhere ? |
| 15:12.24 | frazr | These damn ati cards :( |
| 15:13.01 | petn-randall | telnes: 'man apt-get', section DIAGNOSTICS. |
| 15:13.19 | telnes | petn-randall: thanks I check |
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| 15:13.38 | petn-randall | (it pretty much is just what you said, though) |
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| 15:13.59 | telnes | apt-get returns zero on normal operation, decimal 100 on error. OK |
| 15:14.05 | telnes | no more code :/ |
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| 15:14.21 | jhutchins_wk | telnes: Check the man page(es), chech /usr/share/doc/apt* |
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| 15:15.37 | petn-randall | AFAIK that's all there is. |
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| 15:18.04 | techtonic | I'm having issues with cron. I can make it launch a script that echoes to a file but nothing else works. I can't use xrandr or notify-send. I tried adding the full path like /usr/bin/notify-send and that doesn't help either |
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| 15:18.11 | jhutchins_wk | Might be something buried on the wiki or the debian web pages. |
| 15:18.27 | techtonic | I'm editing it with crontab -e and I set it to launch every minute |
| 15:18.52 | tremolo | Is it not running the script, or does the script not behave as you expect? |
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| 15:19.23 | techtonic | it is running the script but the script doesn't behave as I expect, it does behave when I launch it manually though |
| 15:19.35 | jelly | techtonic: xrandr requires a defined DISPLAY variable. |
| 15:19.39 | tremolo | Do you set DISPLAY in the script? |
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| 15:19.47 | jelly | DISPLAY environment* variable |
| 15:20.00 | techtonic | no I didn't know that, how can I do that? |
| 15:20.17 | techtonic | is it the same for notifications too? |
| 15:20.32 | jelly | silly way: env DISPLAY=whateve:r command |
| 15:20.57 | techtonic | what do I need to put there? |
| 15:21.05 | jelly | no idea what else might be needed for notifications to work, and it might change on every logont/login |
| 15:21.10 | klys | techtonic: DISPLAY=:0 |
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| 15:21.56 | jelly | techtonic: instead of running "command", run "env DISPLAY=:0 command" (or just "DISPLAY=:0 command" but then cron will spawn an extra shell) |
| 15:22.21 | klys | also to have anything before the : you would need to modify /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc |
| 15:23.21 | techtonic | so to use xrandr I need to: env DISPLAY=:0 xrandr |
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| 15:23.42 | jelly | right |
| 15:24.17 | jhutchins_wk | env? |
| 15:24.19 | jelly | (assuming that DISPLAY value is correct, which it usually is if you only have one user logged in, from a *dm) |
| 15:24.43 | gp5st | hello, would someone be able to explain the algorithm for quroum at https://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001#quorum it's 3/2*√p (p being the number of developers)? |
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| 15:25.35 | jelly | env! |
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| 15:27.50 | techtonic | jelly, klys, it worked for xrandr, but doesn't work for notify-send and gsettings |
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| 15:28.47 | bamb | is it possible to have X forwarding to a windows machine without having to usee the complexities of ssh? |
| 15:29.39 | klys | bamb, that depends on if your windows X server is using -listen tcp |
| 15:29.57 | klys | and is on a reachable network |
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| 15:31.02 | jelly | techtonic: yeah, I kind of expected that. You'll probably have to do two things: 1) figure out what other env. vars you need, probably dbus socket or some other socket related 2) put those values into some sort of config file automatically at login time, and a wrapper for notify-send that sets env.vars from the config file, then runs the real command |
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| 15:31.59 | jelly | techtonic: run just "env" in a terminal in your X session to see what kinds of nifty environment variables are set |
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| 15:33.26 | jelly | techtonic: try to add anything with socket or session in the name, and something like a path in the value, to your env DISPLAY=:0 OTHERSTUFF=/blah THIRD=foo notify-send |
| 15:33.43 | jelly | cron job |
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| 15:34.48 | techtonic | jelly: what is the difference between env and export? |
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| 15:36.05 | jelly | techtonic: export doesn't run any commands |
| 15:37.40 | techtonic | jelly: I found some solution here that uses export XAUTHORITY but I just tested it and it doesn't work for me https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16519673/cron-with-notify-send |
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| 15:40.37 | techtonic | why is this so complicated |
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| 15:42.12 | jelly | techtonic: if XAUTHORITY was set you'd need that for xrandr as well. |
| 15:42.31 | techtonic | jelly: env shows it on the list |
| 15:43.15 | jelly | maybe it points to the default location ($HOME/.Xauthority) |
| 15:43.25 | techtonic | XAUTHORITY=/run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority |
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| 15:43.44 | jelly | it must be a miracle then |
| 15:43.48 | techtonic | :O |
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| 15:43.59 | techtonic | I love when that happens :) |
| 15:44.16 | jelly | or your ~/.Xauthority is a symlink to the /run/.... one |
| 15:44.37 | techtonic | I don't have a file named .Xauthority in my home dir |
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| 15:45.15 | jelly | xandr, or any other X app, shouldn't be able to connect to your X server without it |
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| 15:46.11 | techtonic | but it's in /run/user... isn't that enough? |
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| 15:47.53 | jelly | X11 libraries only know to look at the hardcoded place or look at the XAUTHORITY env. variable for the path. If there's neither (eg. running xrandr from cron) an X app shouldn't be able to work |
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| 15:48.16 | techtonic | no I have the env |
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| 15:50.42 | jelly | techtonic: commands that run from cron do not have it. |
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| 15:52.40 | techtonic | I found some other solution that uses dbus but I don't even know what it is and if it's safe to use https://stackoverflow.com/questions/20523925/using-notify-send-with-cron |
| 15:53.03 | techtonic | linux always forces me to learn new things |
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| 15:56.30 | jelly | and learning is HARD? |
| 15:57.04 | techtonic | yes! when you want to just get something to work and be done with it because you've already spent too much time on this one thing |
| 15:57.36 | techtonic | thing that you don't actually need but it looks cool |
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| 16:00.33 | petn-randall | techtonic: To be honest, it sounds like you're tackling the problem the hard way, though. |
| 16:00.57 | techtonic | petn-randall: is there an easier way? |
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| 16:01.56 | jelly | learning how env.vars work, how cron uses a cleaned environment, and which 3-4 vars you need for crazy dbus-based things isn't that hard |
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| 16:02.03 | petn-randall | techtonic: Tell us about the goal you want to achieve, and we might know a solution. |
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| 16:02.27 | sandieg | towo^work: towo` : jelly : i finally manage to install X with 3D after some hard work :P but no mouse this time |
| 16:02.37 | techtonic | jelly: I already did all that, now I need to learn what dbus is and how it works |
| 16:02.45 | sandieg | am i missing some short of file for inputs ? |
| 16:03.03 | techtonic | petn-randall: I want to send notifications from cron using notify-send but it just doesn't work |
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| 16:03.25 | ^CeLL^ | i there |
| 16:03.33 | sandieg | hi ^CeLL^ |
| 16:03.47 | jelly | sandieg: verify xserver-xorg-input-all is installed |
| 16:03.49 | nvz | so I've been noticing lately that my machine is having these hiccups when loading files or closing programs where it takes a long time for it to respond and I think its related to the "reset high-speed USB device" messages in dmesg which indicate the USB SATA adapter my rootfs is on. Any suggestions on running down a cause and solution? |
| 16:03.53 | sandieg | ty ty ty |
| 16:03.55 | ^CeLL^ | i'm trying to update DNS servers on resolv.conf file |
| 16:04.06 | ^CeLL^ | and it won't update after a boot! |
| 16:04.12 | sandieg | nop |
| 16:04.13 | sandieg | install? |
| 16:04.19 | jelly | yes |
| 16:04.22 | sandieg | ty |
| 16:04.31 | sandieg | switching to X :P |
| 16:04.34 | jelly | sandieg: you installation of "xorg" package was not correct or complete, then |
| 16:04.43 | jelly | eh |
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| 16:05.13 | jelly | dpkg, tell ^CeLL^ about override dns |
| 16:05.25 | petn-randall | techtonic: No, that is the solution you came up with, tell us about the problem. |
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| 16:06.39 | nvz | actually now that I mentioned that, I do have an idea of one thing that may be causing problems. I have the drive hooked via one of those USB Y cables that goest to a wall wart power adapter to provide the additional amps the drive needs. the drive requires 700-900ma I got it hooked to a 1a adapter, I suppose maybe that is failing. though I dont know how to be sure other than to switch adapters |
| 16:06.39 | klaussse | nvz: Mmmmmh |
| 16:06.40 | techtonic | petn-randall: my problem is that I want to send notifications to myself every x amount of time using cron. The easiest way I found to send notifications is a program notify-send |
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| 16:07.05 | petn-randall | nvz: Many USB-to-SATA-bridges are dodgy. The proper way would to either install onto an internal HDD, or get a better adapter. |
| 16:07.13 | petn-randall | techtonic: Notifications of what? |
| 16:07.35 | techtonic | petn-randall: anything, any text message |
| 16:08.22 | jelly | techtonic: why cron? what's the source of info you want to generate notifications from? |
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| 16:08.54 | jelly | maybe petn-randall knows of ready-made notificators that can be installeded |
| 16:08.54 | klaussse | jelly: Not sure... |
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| 16:09.34 | jelly | klaussse: sorry? |
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| 16:10.03 | nvz | petn-randall: thats another possibility but no as I just mentioned about the power source the only way to know would be to try a different one I suppose. This only started happening recently. My hardware only has USB and SDIO busses so my options are limited |
| 16:11.12 | nvz | I suppose I could try using a flashdrive instead for the rootfs anyhow, that'd at least eliminate both the sata adapter and the need for additional power source |
| 16:11.28 | petn-randall | nvz: Embedded system? :) |
| 16:11.45 | techtonic | jelly: there is a program called solunar that calculates and displays sunrise and sunset times based on coordinates. I made a script that uses it to determine if it's night or day. I want my computer to use this script and tell me when it's changed (via notifications) and also change my theme and wallpaper depending if it's day or night. My script does all of that and it's executed by cron but cron has a problem with |
| 16:11.45 | techtonic | gsettings and notify-send |
| 16:12.54 | techtonic | it also changes the brightness with xrandr and we got it to work with one env variable |
| 16:13.01 | nvz | petn-randall: yep. REALLY cheap crappy one too. heh. I gotta use the sunxi legacy 3.4.113-sun8i kernel which kinda taints my debian 9 system and makes me wonder anytime something that could be kernel related goes on |
| 16:13.33 | petn-randall | nvz: IIRC you need a half-way current kernel to use systemd, I don't remember what the version number was. |
| 16:13.33 | klaussse | petn-randall: yeah |
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| 16:14.04 | petn-randall | klaussse: yeah what? |
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| 16:14.39 | jelly | techtonic: there's redshift for brightness, and I guess you could solve the timing with per-user systemd timer units which are supposed to have your normal user's environment |
| 16:15.17 | jelly | klaussse: how much is five x 2 (are you a bot?) |
| 16:16.01 | techtonic | jelly: we already got xrandr to work so no need to change that one, I need cron to execute my script every hour, will this what you are suggesting be able to do the same? |
| 16:16.36 | nvz | I guess if it bugs me the best solution/troubleshooting step then would be to just take one of these thumbdrives and migrate my rootfs. any suggestions on which tool to use to migrate a rootfs to a drive of a different size? my rootfs is 111G and I have thumbdrives that are 4, 8, 32, and 128GB |
| 16:16.38 | jelly | techtonic: it's supposed to. I've never used systemd timers and don't know how they work. |
| 16:16.55 | techtonic | jelly: thanks I will check it out! |
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| 16:17.05 | jelly | klaussse: PM me for an answer and you may get unmuted. No talky bots in here without permission from ops. |
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| 16:17.50 | nvz | maybe it'd be easier to just reinstall and migrate /etc and /home backing up all that may take way too long now that I think about it |
| 16:18.26 | nvz | is groggy and asking these questions is making me think of the answers myself :P |
| 16:18.35 | jelly | nvz: rsync. |
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| 16:19.46 | nvz | jelly: rsync can migrate a whole rootfs? I guess we don't really have device nodes anymore, they probably all create on the fly.. |
| 16:20.22 | jelly | it can copy all the files and directory structures |
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| 16:20.36 | _Vi | Why Debian Stretch's graphical login screen shows "Authentication error" when trying to unlock session even before I enter any password. It happens every second in a loop. Partially entered password gets cleared. |
| 16:20.58 | jelly | nvz: if you're migrating to a smaller filesystem, you don't have a lot of choice but to do a file-based copy |
| 16:21.26 | _Vi | And how do I forcibly unlock lock screen from SSH root shell? |
| 16:21.46 | jelly | _Vi: can you log in as that user at the text console? |
| 16:22.15 | _Vi | Yes. |
| 16:22.42 | jhutchins_wk | _Vi: Have you been running graphical programs as root? |
| 16:23.16 | jelly | _Vi: do you care about the running session a lot? Someone may suggest a command that gets you logged out completely |
| 16:23.28 | _Vi | Not (at least in this session). |
| 16:23.29 | nvz | jelly: yes and that would cut down on time too I suppose. All things are slower on here, inet to reinstall, transfer speeds from one USB device to another.. etc. file based approach makes me working with more like 28G instead of 111G |
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| 16:24.02 | _Vi | Not particualrly caring about this session, but I want to know methods of troubleshooting in case I really do. |
| 16:24.08 | jhutchins_wk | nvz: You should boot to other media than the fs you're copying. |
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| 16:24.37 | jelly | _Vi: look at your user's processes and try to find oue related to the lock screen. Perhaps ps -fe | grep lock |
| 16:24.40 | _Vi | How the default graphical login manager is called in Debian Stretch? |
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| 16:24.50 | ^CeLL^ | how do i had a nameserver to a webserver? |
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| 16:24.57 | jelly | gdm3 |
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| 16:25.31 | _Vi | Only kernel thread "[kblockd]" gets found. |
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| 16:25.42 | jelly | ^CeLL^: that does not make sense. Please explain in more detail, eg. |
| 16:25.43 | jelly | !ask |
| 16:25.44 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:25.46 | nvz | jhutchins_wk: that can be a bit of a problem but possibly doable. I have another sd card with android on it I only have two usb ports and an otg I use in host mode for my keyboard/mouse and using a hub would cut my xfer speeds between two drives down below 1MB/s |
| 16:25.48 | _Vi | The lock screen is also login screen for other users. |
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| 16:26.25 | jelly | _Vi: you can restart gdm/gdm3 service but that will likely log you out |
| 16:26.34 | jhutchins_wk | nvz: There are a lot of pseudo-files that get generated at runtime and you don't want to copy those. |
| 16:27.05 | jelly | _Vi: I honestly have no idea how to deal with symptoms like that; is it possible some key somewhere is stuck? |
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| 16:27.57 | petn-randall | is guessing stuck (external USB) keyboard, too. |
| 16:28.11 | _Vi | In /var/log/gdm3 I don't see any messages while it shows "Authentication error". |
| 16:28.14 | jelly | _Vi: if you're root, a silly workaround: change your normal user's password to just 'b', then type it real quick, then change it back |
| 16:28.19 | _Vi | In auth.log as well. |
| 16:28.36 | _Vi | Let's try the short password workaround. |
| 16:28.41 | nvz | jhutchins_wk: would their presence likely cause issues with booting? I acually boot from SD and root is on USB then the "root" on the sd remounts to /media/ once the real rootfs is loaded |
| 16:28.56 | Nihl | hi there. I have a lot of packages installed, with versions higher then the ones that are in repositories. That causes huge dependency problems... Is there a way to downgrade all 'over-versioned' packages to the last one in the repository? |
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| 16:29.25 | jelly | Nihl: where did you get those package versions from? |
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| 16:29.30 | _Vi | Workaround fails. Still the same orange "Authentication failure". |
| 16:29.44 | _Vi | s/failure/error/ |
| 16:30.11 | jelly | Nihl: there are ways to do it, bu... eh |
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| 16:30.32 | _Vi | Also "Authentication error" shows up if I try to to choose another user any type my user name. |
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| 16:31.22 | _Vi | After trying to type "root" as username it does not respond at all, even to "Cancel". |
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| 16:31.27 | jelly | Nihl: there are ways to do it (ask the bot about: /msg dpkg partial downgrade), but tread carefully. Example: downgrading a database server to a lower version may make you end up with software that can't read your data correctly. |
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| 16:31.47 | _Vi | Shall I file a bug somewhere? |
| 16:31.47 | jelly | Nihl: which debian release are you supposed to be running? |
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| 16:31.53 | synja | jelly |
| 16:31.57 | synja | just ask this |
| 16:32.02 | Nihl | I am running stretch |
| 16:32.09 | synja | what code for dpkg partial downgrade debian |
| 16:32.14 | synja | now wait |
| 16:32.24 | alic1a | synja: Home * Plailect/Guide Wiki * GitHub at https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki |
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| 16:32.33 | jelly | wtf |
| 16:32.37 | synja | see if that works |
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| 16:32.55 | synja | throws alicia a bone |
| 16:33.18 | jelly | synja: please don't put bots in here without permission. |
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| 16:33.31 | synja | don't be pb and jelly dude |
| 16:33.38 | Nihl | so, how could I downgrade safely then? |
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| 16:33.51 | _Vi | How do I restart gdm3? "service gdm3 restart" seems to produce no result. |
| 16:33.52 | alic1a | _Vi: You has to study it in school Hmm. I see |
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| 16:34.10 | _Vi | alic1a, Study what in school? |
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| 16:36.04 | jelly | Nihl: do you know where got those newer package versions from? |
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| 16:36.55 | Nihl | I think I messed my sources.list a while back so that it had much newer packages I guess... |
| 16:36.56 | _Vi | Only "killall Xwayland" made this stuck login window go away". |
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| 16:37.18 | Nihl | but I changed it since |
| 16:37.28 | petn-randall | Nihl: Where did you get the packages from, though? |
| 16:37.45 | Nihl | all from apt-get.... if that's what you mean |
| 16:37.47 | jelly | Nihl: unless you have a _lot_ of important data on this installation, best thing to do is reinstall |
| 16:38.01 | jelly | (apt-get from which sources) |
| 16:38.14 | Nihl | I don't remember |
| 16:38.31 | jelly | Nihl: do you have a lot of important data on this system? |
| 16:38.38 | Nihl | I just know that the versions of the packages are much newer then on the official site |
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| 16:39.05 | Nihl | not really, but it's a bother to reinstall I guess :D |
| 16:39.15 | jhutchins_wk | !partial downgrade |
| 16:39.16 | dpkg | This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it: (a) change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing "b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g'. See <not available>. |
| 16:40.00 | jelly | Nihl: no, it's really the simpler of the options available, and your config files and data will be a mess after an attempted downgrade anyway |
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| 16:40.18 | jelly | debian's packages do not really support downgrades |
| 16:40.32 | Nihl | I see... I need to get used to this |
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| 16:41.03 | Nihl | I am thinking about reinstalling just the root |
| 16:41.12 | Nihl | so that home stays the same |
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| 16:42.17 | jelly | if your /home is a separate partition / filesystem, you should be able to do that if you're careful. Safest thing to do is backup all the good stuff from your home to some external disk, reinstall, and put back |
| 16:42.34 | Nihl | mhm, thank you jelly |
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| 16:50.05 | ^CeLL^ | just want to know this: should i edit etc/resolv.conf file? I have a raspian webserver with static internal IP, i've go a domain name that was buyed to no-ip. Should i be editing etc/resolv.conf to their Nameservers? |
| 16:51.03 | nkuttler | !raspbian |
| 16:51.03 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 16:52.20 | rotaticus | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:55.02 | lift | Any gotchas I need to look for with a jessie->stretch upgrade? MySQL to MariaDB barfed a little, but appears to be up and working after I manually killed the running mysqld process and re-ran upgrade. |
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| 16:58.21 | annadane | lift, https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#trouble |
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| 17:00.08 | jhutchins_wk | ^CeLL^: If you want your server to be reachable by outside users, you need to set up DNS entries on a public DNS server. Your registrar might have those availble for you to set. If not, you will have to find a public DNS server. Namecheap will provide you with DNS services for domains that are registered elsewhere, but you might need to have at least one registration with them. |
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| 17:00.29 | annadane | lift, https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html |
| 17:01.06 | jhutchins_wk | ^CeLL^: You might want to set up a DNS server on your own network to access the server locally, that will not make it publically accessible. |
| 17:01.31 | jelly | ^CeLL^: no, if the system is on a fixed internal ip, just add an entry for it in /etc/hosts on the client machines |
| 17:03.56 | ^CeLL^ | jelly: how should it be? |
| 17:04.50 | ^CeLL^ | cause when i edit the etc/resolv.conf file save it and then boot the raspian shows the previous values |
| 17:05.22 | jhutchins_wk | ^CeLL^: That's because you're not supposed to edit /etc/resolv.conf - it's managed by other programs now. |
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| 17:06.21 | ^CeLL^ | thank you! for the info! |
| 17:06.31 | jhutchins_wk | !pt |
| 17:06.31 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
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| 17:17.55 | pflanze | Why does arecord not work any more on Debian stretch which uses pulseaudio? |
| 17:18.14 | pflanze | How can I record sound on a pulse audio based system from the command line? |
| 17:19.23 | pflanze | BTW actually arecord still worked with stretch one one system I tried. But not here. Might be because I'm using a USB audio device, which shows up in the mixer including sound activity levels, but arecord gives silence. |
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| 17:21.30 | Cobalt | Hello, what would be the correct way of causing USB external device to automount under Stretch, in /media to be accessible to all users (vfat or ntfs), and to automagically delete mountpoint if accidentally removed without cleanly unmounting first? |
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| 17:22.06 | Trel | If you're using the iso with firmware, do you need to do anything special to have the installer load said firmware or is there possibly wireless firmware still not included? |
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| 17:35.08 | kannan | ignore - wrong window. sorry. |
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| 17:40.14 | sandiego | hi towo` towo^work jelly !!!! :D finnaly everything running but i mess a bit with sound and some how i need to do modprobe snd-hda-sound everytime i want to play or ear music how do i do it auto every reboot ? |
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| 17:46.08 | HSorgYves | Anyone experience with git? I have a detached HEAD problem |
| 17:46.22 | raynold | ahh it's a wonderful day :D |
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| 17:47.27 | nkuttler | HSorgYves: people in #git presumably |
| 17:47.34 | wonuku | I compiled a custom kernel (4.12.??/stable) for the supposed improvements with Ryzen cpus and installed it with the headers to the default location (/usr/) when I tried to compile a module for temp sensors for ryzen it complained about not finding them in it tried to look for them in /usr/src/ i later found out that Debian told us to package the kernel and then install it so is there a way to install the headers the Debian way to my system without |
| 17:47.34 | wonuku | recompiling the kernel? |
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| 18:07.22 | blawiz | i have two identical usb-sticks (one is backup), i have a script to mount/umount, noticed one takes a lot longer to umount (over a minute), what could cause this? |
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| 18:10.47 | n4dir | is it the stick you copy *to* which takes longer to umount? Anyway: probably the cp operation was not finished, once it is finished, the umount operation will finish too. |
| 18:10.57 | jmcnaught | blawiz: the kernel isn't finished writing the information to the disk, it's still in the buffer |
| 18:11.09 | wonuku | I compiled a custom kernel (4.12.??/stable) for the supposed improvements with Ryzen cpus and installed it with the headers to the default location (/usr/) when I tried to compile a module for temp sensors for ryzen it complained about not finding them in it tried to look for them in /usr/src/ i later found out that Debian told us to package the kernel and then install it so is there a way to install the headers the Debian way to my system without |
| 18:11.10 | wonuku | recompiling my kernel |
| 18:11.21 | n4dir | damnit. a professional answer, jmcnaught ... i should have waited for it |
| 18:12.02 | blawiz | jmcnaught: a whole minute? its quite little data transfered |
| 18:12.09 | jmcnaught | n4dir: you were correct as well ☺ |
| 18:12.28 | jmcnaught | blawiz: did you try running 'sync' before umount? |
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| 18:13.03 | blawiz | jmcnaught: no, what does it do? |
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| 18:13.29 | jmcnaught | blawiz: flushes the buffers |
| 18:13.38 | BlackBishop | trying to pxeboot a server following https://wiki.debian.org/PXEBootInstall |
| 18:13.44 | BlackBishop | I get this |
| 18:13.46 | BlackBishop | daemon.log:Aug 30 11:50:29 sundance in.tftpd[5875]: tftp: client does not accept options |
| 18:13.48 | BlackBishop | ideas ? |
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| 18:14.13 | zq | hi |
| 18:14.26 | zq | the debian installer is complaining about missing firmware files |
| 18:14.59 | zq | ath10k/{pre-cal,cal}-pci-0000:3a:00.0.bin |
| 18:15.14 | zq | how could i obtain these files? they're not in the firmware-atheros packages |
| 18:15.17 | blawiz | jmcnaught: oki, thanks, ill try changing and see if it helps :) |
| 18:15.18 | jmcnaught | zq: there's a chapter about this in the install manual that includes a link to an installer ISO that has most (not all) of the non-free firmwares: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en |
| 18:15.45 | jmcnaught | blawiz: if that isn't it, you could look at dmesg or journalctl output to see what's happening |
| 18:16.40 | zq | jmcnaught: in fact, this error message was gotten from the iso bundled with non-frees |
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| 18:26.00 | zq | oh heh, it just worked |
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| 18:30.45 | zorin | can anyone help me with a bot |
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| 18:31.18 | annadane | zorin, just ask |
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| 18:31.30 | annadane | although not if it's not related to debian |
| 18:31.50 | zorin | wym |
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| 18:32.56 | zorin | how can a bot be related to debian |
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| 18:34.21 | n4dir | for example the question how the bot of this channel does work would be related to debian. |
| 18:34.51 | koollman | dpkg: how do you work ? |
| 18:34.53 | dpkg | koollman: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 18:35.02 | koollman | :) |
| 18:35.02 | greycat | dpkg, what are you |
| 18:35.02 | dpkg | I am an infobot. For more information, ask me about <infobot>. |
| 18:35.31 | zorin | what is dpkg bot coded in |
| 18:35.38 | greycat | /msg dpkg infobot |
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| 18:36.06 | BlackBishop | it's a poweredge 1950 :/ I have no idea what it doesn't like |
| 18:36.27 | zorin | dpkg, infobot |
| 18:36.28 | dpkg | Infobot is an IRC bot that is geared towards remembering "factoids", and repeating them back to people on request. It supports many additional features, such as google lookups, dictionary, spell checker, debian package checks, and more. See http://infobot.sf.net/ for more. |
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| 18:37.13 | zorin | so dpkg is just infobot? ._. |
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| 18:44.16 | amd_0x51 | i was talking about chomium crashing when I do a lot on the other day |
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| 18:44.30 | amd_0x51 | well i installed nvidia drivers again and it hasn't played up since |
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| 19:07.28 | amd_0x51 | strange one here. never seen it before. When I type clear I get some strange text appear on scrolling up |
| 19:07.50 | greycat | wrong $TERM variable setting? |
| 19:08.03 | greycat | clear is defined as a shell function/alias? |
| 19:08.07 | amd_0x51 | I did recently change some colours and add some alias' |
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| 19:08.32 | amd_0x51 | but all i did was uncomment out what .bashrc offers |
| 19:08.38 | greycat | if you're in bash, what does "type clear" say? |
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| 19:09.04 | amd_0x51 | clear is hashed (/usr/bin/clear) |
| 19:09.12 | greycat | OK, then it's not a function/alias issue. |
| 19:09.26 | greycat | what does "echo $TERM" say, and what kind of terminal are you actually inside of? |
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| 19:09.58 | amd_0x51 | xterm |
| 19:10.01 | Jesse__ | Hi, I have broken the upgrade to strech by only doing apt upgrade (not dist-upgrade). I can start Debian, but with old kernel and non-working network, I have downloaded net-installer and started in rescue mode, but when I do apt dist-upgrade I get a lot of errors |
| 19:10.02 | amd_0x51 | MATE terminal |
| 19:10.20 | greycat | Is it gnome-terminal? And is the TERM supposed to be xterm? |
| 19:10.47 | amd_0x51 | MATE Terminal but I have gnome installed |
| 19:11.00 | Jesse__ | My linux skills are limited... |
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| 19:11.27 | greycat | Well, I'm guessing xterm is the wrong TERM value for the "MATE terminal", whatever that is. |
| 19:11.44 | amd_0x51 | okay thanks greycat i will figure out which one it should be |
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| 19:12.10 | Cobalt | Hello. Is there a way to force Stretch to run scripts initiated under udev rules as root as in jessie? |
| 19:12.29 | petemc | i use mate terminal and it's set to xterm |
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| 19:14.37 | Jesse__ | I have broken the stretch upgrade - can anybody help a novice? |
| 19:14.44 | n4dir | Jesse__: i guess we will need the exact error messages. |
| 19:15.12 | amd_0x51 | hey petemc, do you get a strange string when you enter the clear command? |
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| 19:15.27 | n4dir | well, without network that sure ain't much fun. But anything more informative than "lot of errors" would be a good start. |
| 19:15.31 | annadane | Jesse__, do you have a graphical user interface you can use? paste.debian.net |
| 19:15.32 | petemc | amd_0x51: nope |
| 19:15.55 | Jesse__ | I get faild to tech (url to deb) could not resolve ftp.se.debian.org |
| 19:16.04 | annadane | Jesse__, we |
| 19:16.08 | annadane | we'll need your entire output |
| 19:16.22 | petemc | amd_0x51: does reset fixit? |
| 19:16.23 | annadane | when you do apt dist-upgrade |
| 19:16.31 | Jesse__ | I get faild to fetch (url to deb) could not resolve ftp.se.debian.org |
| 19:16.37 | n4dir | Jesse__: if you got no network connection, then sure it will fail to resolve *debian.org (assuming i didn't fall on the head) |
| 19:16.52 | greycat | Yes, the real question is why you can't resolve that hostname. |
| 19:17.11 | greycat | Can you resolve *any* hostnames at all? |
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| 19:17.46 | Jesse__ | I downloaded a netinstall to try to fix the half installed system - I am in a sort of rescue mode - apt update seems to work... |
| 19:18.35 | greycat | So hostname resolution worked when you ran "apt update". Did you wait a moment and try the next apt command again? |
| 19:18.47 | greycat | Have you tried resolving hostnames from the command line with "host" or "dig"? |
| 19:20.24 | Jesse__ | Sorry apt update doesn't work... it says couldnt resolve <repository> |
| 19:20.57 | greycat | What does "host www.google.com" say? |
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| 19:22.57 | Jesse__ | greycat - host says: Connection timed out: no servers could be reached |
| 19:23.15 | greycat | Can you ping 8.8.8.8 ? |
| 19:23.48 | Jesse__ | Ping works well with 8.8.8.8 |
| 19:24.07 | greycat | Edit your /etc/resolv.conf file and make it say "nameserver 8.8.8.8" before any other nameserver lines. |
| 19:24.07 | rux3816 | .oO(cat /etc/resolv.conf) |
| 19:24.29 | Jesse__ | greycat - shall do... |
| 19:24.37 | greycat | Later you can work on figuring out why it's not working with whatever you have in it now. |
| 19:24.48 | greycat | For now, 8.8.8.8 should suffice. |
| 19:24.59 | amd_0x51 | strange. didn't go away on a .bashrc reset |
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| 19:29.05 | petemc | amd_0x51: did you restart the terminal? |
| 19:29.14 | amd_0x51 | yeah |
| 19:29.28 | petemc | tput reset ? |
| 19:30.20 | Jesse__ | Greycat - there are no file resolv.conf under /etc |
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| 19:31.06 | kion | How do i get to cast from my laptop to chromecast? is it possible? I am trying to avoid installing google Chrome, but I did installed chromium |
| 19:31.09 | greycat | Then that's the problem! |
| 19:31.18 | greycat | echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" >> /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 19:34.31 | amd_0x51 | still there! Even dconf reset didn't do anything |
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| 19:35.37 | Jesse__ | greycat - I get no such file or directory, when I ls -la it says that resolv.conf is a link to /var/run/Networkmanager/resolv.ocnf |
| 19:35.55 | Jesse__ | greycat - I get no such file or directory, when I ls -la it says that resolv.conf is a link to /var/run/Networkmanager/resolv.conf |
| 19:36.05 | greycat | FUcking network-manager. |
| 19:36.11 | Jesse__ | :-) |
| 19:36.17 | rux3816 | network manager is the shit |
| 19:36.26 | greycat | rm /etc/resolv.conf; echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf |
| 19:36.54 | teraflops | systemd-resolved does the same thing |
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| 19:37.12 | teraflops | never heard of suck symlink from NM though |
| 19:37.19 | greycat | why in the name of unholy Satan would you WILLINGLY USE systemd-resolved? |
| 19:37.30 | greycat | How would you even *know* what it does? |
| 19:37.32 | teraflops | idk, ask them I do use NM :P |
| 19:38.34 | teraflops | I tried it |
| 19:38.45 | Jesse__ | Greycat - is it dangerous to remove /etc/resolv.conf ? |
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| 19:39.02 | greycat | If it's a symlink to a network-manager thing that does not exist, it is not dangerous to remove that dangling symlink. |
| 19:39.05 | teraflops | Jesse__: I wonder what will happen when you reboot |
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| 19:39.41 | sandiego | hey |
| 19:40.10 | sandiego | Im strunglin to make sound work on my pc, any change any advicer help me ? i can hear perfect on 3,5mm |
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| 19:40.35 | sandiego | jackport audio , using hdmi cable to monitor and i want to make the monitor play the tunes :) |
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| 19:41.10 | Jesse__ | greycat - I have done as you said... removed and recreated resolv.conf |
| 19:41.16 | teraflops | sandiego: are you using pulseadio? |
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| 19:42.01 | teraflops | if yes, tried e.g pavucontrol and switched audio to hdmi sink? |
| 19:42.19 | Jesse__ | greycat - You are a savior!!! apt dist-upgrade seems to work now!!!! Thanks :-) :-) :-) |
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| 19:43.41 | annadane | !next |
| 19:43.41 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 19:44.51 | Jesse__ | greycat thanks!!! We are a little developer shop that develop .net application - but is migrating more and more to Linux... we are so few so we have no expert in any area :-( |
| 19:44.52 | greycat | One of the scenarios where n-m will do that to you is if you install stretch, decide you don't like the "predictable interface names", and attempt to change to the old eth0 names but forget to edit /etc/network/interfaces. |
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| 19:44.55 | rux3816 | until he reboots and network-manager, systemd-resolved or any other unwanted automatism fucks up /etc/resolv.conf again |
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| 19:45.38 | greycat | N-m starts up, sees that you have this new eth0 interface that is not managed by /e/n/i, and does its "magic", wiping out your resolv.conf for you, because n-m is so helpful. |
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| 19:46.29 | teraflops | rux3816: I thought so |
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| 19:46.53 | teraflops | I still dont know why NM is doing such symlink |
| 19:47.07 | teraflops | I cannot recall having it in another distros |
| 19:47.14 | teraflops | other^ |
| 19:47.21 | sandiego | teraflops: yes hdmi pulseaudio |
| 19:47.33 | teraflops | tried pavucontrol? |
| 19:47.34 | sandiego | here is the file: https://paste.debian.net/983754/ |
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| 19:47.41 | sandiego | ty in advance |
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| 19:48.08 | sandiego | teraflops: brb |
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| 19:50.30 | teraflops | np |
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| 19:52.11 | Jesse__ | Greycat - When I reboot should I recreate the softlink to networkmanager? |
| 19:52.31 | greycat | A real, permanent fix is going to require a bit of unraveling. |
| 19:52.43 | greycat | Which version of Debian is this? |
| 19:53.07 | Jesse__ | Now its 8 1/2 - soon 9 :-) |
| 19:53.23 | greycat | Are you using a wired ethernet interface, or wireless? |
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| 19:53.56 | Jesse__ | wired |
| 19:54.05 | teraflops | sandiego: you can also pactl set-default-sink and press tab key since it does autocompletion and pick the hdmi one |
| 19:54.06 | greycat | what does "ls /sys/class/net" say? |
| 19:54.40 | teraflops | sandiego: pavucontol is fine too |
| 19:54.43 | Jesse__ | greycat - can't answer it now... apt is doing its magic stuff :-) |
| 19:55.04 | greycat | you can use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get another tty |
| 19:55.09 | rux3816 | Jesse__: you only have one console? |
| 19:55.31 | Jesse__ | I am a novice :-) |
| 19:55.33 | rux3816 | Jesse__: ever heard of linux VT or screen (or tmux)? |
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| 19:56.23 | amd_0x51 | this is weird. I can't figure it out |
| 19:56.34 | Jesse__ | Does it work well in rescue mode? I am bit cautious about doing things while a major update... |
| 19:56.43 | Jesse__ | I am a chicken :-) |
| 19:56.44 | greycat | Oh, didn't know you were in rescue mode. |
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| 19:56.54 | greycat | in that case Ctrl-Alt-F2 probably does nothing |
| 19:57.56 | petemc | alt-f2 on its own, should tho no? |
| 19:58.16 | greycat | not if there isn't a getty running, or a getty-spawning thing |
| 19:58.20 | Jesse__ | Greycat - 38% done update :-) |
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| 19:58.45 | amd_0x51 | if anyone else has this could somebody help me find out why? thanks |
| 19:58.46 | amd_0x51 | https://paste.debian.net/983755/ |
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| 19:59.33 | rux3816 | greycat: the only real bug in screen is that you can forget to start it :) |
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| 20:02.40 | petemc | amd_0x51: the problem is those characters? they are part of what clear should send,tho here they arenot printed to the sceen |
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| 20:03.04 | greycat | Did he even figure out which bloody terminal emulator he's in yet? |
| 20:03.19 | petemc | mate terminal set to xterm, same as me |
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| 20:03.29 | greycat | So TERM=xterm is actually correct? |
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| 20:03.39 | amd_0x51 | sorry greycat trying not to ask too much just confused |
| 20:03.42 | petemc | i dont know much about mate terminal, im just testing a pinebook |
| 20:03.55 | greycat | Does it have a god damned *name*? |
| 20:03.56 | petemc | the keyboard,especially spacebar, sucks |
| 20:04.03 | greycat | So we can find its man page online? |
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| 20:04.28 | greycat | Not that I expect anything derived from any version of GNOME to have an actual useful man page. |
| 20:04.31 | greycat | BUt still. |
| 20:04.41 | petemc | ps identifies it as mate-terminal |
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| 20:05.08 | greycat | The full documentation for mate-terminal is maintained as a Texinfo manual. |
| 20:05.13 | greycat | ... fuck you too. |
| 20:05.25 | amd_0x51 | er |
| 20:05.27 | amd_0x51 | sorry. |
| 20:05.31 | amd_0x51 | didn't mean to annoy |
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| 20:05.39 | petemc | heh |
| 20:05.48 | greycat | Not your fault. GNU developers think they can get away with not writing man pages. |
| 20:05.52 | teraflops | amd_0x51: that prompt is local, or are you connected through ssh? |
| 20:06.07 | greycat | so I go to https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/mate-terminal/mate-terminal.1.en.html and see the GNU "use info" crap at the bottom. |
| 20:06.12 | petemc | he bounced.im guessing local |
| 20:06.56 | teraflops | maybe ey messed eir .bashrc or whatever |
| 20:07.07 | teraflops | no idea though and it's late for guessing |
| 20:07.07 | petemc | its printing some of the characters you would see in output of clear | od -bc |
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| 20:07.28 | greycat | Oh, fun. It also has a link to a wiki, but on the wiki, the link for mate-terminal documentation is red. Page not written yet. |
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| 20:08.52 | teraflops | debian wiki needs more love and I feel a bit guilty since I already have a account |
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| 20:09.01 | greycat | THis is not the Debian wiki. It's the MATE wiki. |
| 20:09.06 | teraflops | an^ |
| 20:09.12 | teraflops | ah, nvm |
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| 20:09.20 | greycat | As linked from the Debian man page |
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| 20:11.24 | amd_0x51 | hey, sorry I jumped ship thought I was being annoying |
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| 20:11.31 | amd_0x51 | I still can't figure this out |
| 20:12.03 | petemc | amd_0x51: those, characters, they persist on the sceen? |
| 20:12.13 | greycat | the man page says the documentation for your terminal is in "info mate-terminal" or by pressing F1 inside the terminal or something |
| 20:12.16 | annadane | pretty sure greycat's not upset with you |
| 20:12.35 | sandiego | teraflops: im back sorry the delay :P |
| 20:12.36 | amd_0x51 | yeah I know sorry. was a misunderstanding |
| 20:12.48 | annadane | group hug. :P |
| 20:12.52 | petemc | amd_0x51: after typing clear, press ctrl and l, they are still there? |
| 20:12.52 | amd_0x51 | someone kindly pointed it out heh! |
| 20:12.52 | sandiego | tell me you still interessed in helping me out ? |
| 20:13.10 | teraflops | sandiego: what did you do? |
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| 20:13.35 | amd_0x51 | hhey!!! petemc ! |
| 20:13.35 | teraflops | sandiego: sure, you can also ask if I'm not here :P |
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| 20:13.36 | amd_0x51 | it worked |
| 20:13.39 | amd_0x51 | what did that do? |
| 20:13.48 | petemc | clearthe screen |
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| 20:14.17 | sandiego | teraflops: root@murtas:~# pactl set-default-sink |
| 20:14.36 | teraflops | as root? nono |
| 20:14.40 | sandiego | retrieves some set sink stuff |
| 20:14.41 | sandiego | :P |
| 20:14.42 | amd_0x51 | i see! clear on it's own still outputs the strange string, but ctrl l removes it! |
| 20:14.52 | teraflops | pulseadio runs as normal user |
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| 20:15.02 | sandiego | well i hear the music in the end of the tunnel with a bit of noise |
| 20:15.03 | sandiego | :( |
| 20:15.06 | amd_0x51 | odd I am going to read the info page |
| 20:15.28 | sandiego | and its amzing loud :( a little bit of noise is all i hear |
| 20:15.29 | sandiego | :( |
| 20:15.34 | petemc | clear sends different codesdepending on terminaltype |
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| 20:15.36 | teraflops | tput stuff is funny too amd_0x51 |
| 20:15.39 | sandiego | pavucontrol is checked for hdmi sound |
| 20:15.44 | teraflops | and? |
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| 20:15.53 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
| 20:15.57 | amd_0x51 | hmm interesting. |
| 20:16.06 | sandiego | if i turn to headset jack 3.5mm its ok sound is fine on headset and noise is gone |
| 20:16.10 | amd_0x51 | thanks a lot everybody. appreciate the help |
| 20:16.13 | greycat | amd_0x51: my thought is that if your terminal has two "modes", one emulating xterm and the other emulating possibly gnome-terminal, you could try both modes and see which one works better. Or consult the docs and see what the TERM variable is supposed to be set to for each mode. Except I am not confident that the docs would be that useful. |
| 20:16.13 | sandiego | at pavucontrol |
| 20:16.25 | tobiasBora | I'd like to know, is it better to run a linux on an Intel i3 6006U, or on an AMD A9-9420 |
| 20:16.27 | tobiasBora | ? |
| 20:16.47 | tobiasBora | Is AMD well recognized on Linux ? |
| 20:16.49 | teraflops | sandiego: hmm, sorry it's late and I'm starting to think I'm not being helpful |
| 20:17.04 | amd_0x51 | okay good stuff greycat I will do some digging around. I don't think it is doing naything bad but I just like a clean terminal |
| 20:17.06 | amd_0x51 | heh |
| 20:17.11 | teraflops | I thought your issue was you wasnt able to hear sound though hdmi |
| 20:17.14 | tobiasBora | (I always use intel, and I don't know how well AMD is recognized on Linux) |
| 20:17.32 | sandiego | teraflops: https://paste.debian.net/983762/ |
| 20:17.35 | tobiasBora | (The graphic card of the AMD A9-9420 is a Radeon R5) |
| 20:17.37 | teraflops | you werent^ |
| 20:17.39 | sandiego | someting is blacklisted here |
| 20:17.45 | sandiego | check it out |
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| 20:17.55 | sandiego | still have no sound |
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| 20:18.35 | teraflops | sandiego: what are you trying to do? |
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| 20:18.50 | sandiego | to listen to music on monitor hdmi link with a r9 fury |
| 20:18.55 | sandiego | teraflops: |
| 20:19.06 | sandiego | teraflops: https://paste.debian.net/983762/ |
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| 20:19.11 | teraflops | is it knwn for having issues with hdi output? |
| 20:19.23 | sandiego | ah? |
| 20:19.30 | teraflops | also dont run anything pulseadio related as root |
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| 20:19.46 | teraflops | sandiego: idk, youre overthinking it |
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| 20:19.54 | Eardley | Saged, reported, hidden, called the cops, called the Fire Department, called pizza hut, called the USN, called the Royal Navy, called the Red Army, called the FBI. called the CIA, called Interpol, called the KGB, called the USMC, called the USAF, called the Royal Air force, called MI 6, called Scotland Yard, called the US National Guard of every state, called NYPD, called Obama, called the Queen, called Putin, called David Cameron, called ev |
| 20:19.54 | Eardley | HI, BILLY MAYS HERE WITH GENTOO. DO YOU HAVE LOTS OF SHIT IN YOUR HOUSE LIKE WINDOWS OR OSX THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP?THEN DOWNLOAD SOME OF THIS GODDAMN GENTOO. THIS GENTOO COULD CLEAN THE NORTON OFF YOUR HARDDRIVES VAGINA. YOU CAN PUT SOME GENTOO ON YOUR SSD, AND IT'LL READ AND WRITE 3 TIMES FASTER. FUCK. |
| 20:19.54 | Eardley | OwNeD By irc.badirc.cc |
| 20:20.09 | teraflops | does plain pulseadio work? you just need a pulseadio mixer |
| 20:20.26 | sandiego | how do i know that , teraflops ? |
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| 20:20.48 | petemc | amd_0x51: try TERM=xterm-color clear |
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| 20:20.53 | teraflops | well, logout from root! |
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| 20:21.46 | sandiego | brb |
| 20:21.48 | sandiego | reboot |
| 20:22.12 | teraflops | holy cow |
| 20:22.18 | amd_0x51 | yes that worked again, petemc |
| 20:22.50 | amd_0x51 | I tried update-alternatives but no luck |
| 20:23.10 | teraflops | so mate terminal does not ship a terminfo file? |
| 20:23.29 | petemc | i dont have amd_0x51's problem |
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| 20:23.53 | petemc | but seemsthey need to have TERM set to xterm-color |
| 20:24.04 | greycat | maybe it *did* ship an xterm terminfo file and it overwrote the one from ncurses-term? |
| 20:24.04 | teraflops | it uses xterm-256color or whatever? |
| 20:24.09 | greycat | I have no idea. |
| 20:24.23 | greycat | maybe his xterm.terminfo is corrupted or something |
| 20:24.36 | amd_0x51 | i think it might be |
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| 20:24.52 | amd_0x51 | because everything i've tried that *should* fix it hasn't |
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| 20:25.02 | greycat | amd_0x51: try reinstalling ncurses-base |
| 20:25.12 | petemc | compare TERM=xterm-color | od -bc against TERM=xterm color | od -bc, the difference in characters is what remains on amd_0x51 screen |
| 20:25.16 | teraflops | overriding terminfo stuff sounds like a bad idea most of the time |
| 20:25.19 | greycat | err, wait |
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| 20:25.36 | greycat | yeah, that's a file. /lib/terminfo/x/xterm |
| 20:26.04 | teraflops | gnome-terminal uses xterm-256color |
| 20:26.15 | greycat | If reinstalling *that* doesn't work, then perhaps he has a local xterm terminfo override in his user's $HOME or something. |
| 20:27.03 | amd_0x51 | same string of 0s |
| 20:27.10 | teraflops | which should be at ~/.terminfo unless ey is hardcoding it somewhere /me shrugs |
| 20:27.17 | petemc | ah ffs, TERM=xterm | od -bc in secondinstance |
| 20:27.47 | amd_0x51 | yeah I assumed that is what you meant |
| 20:27.51 | amd_0x51 | same string |
| 20:28.31 | teraflops | amd_0x51: do you have custom ~/.bash* stuff |
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| 20:28.46 | petemc | amd_0x51: https://pastebin.com/vNbFtQcC |
| 20:28.47 | greycat | It's not a bash issue. He verified that "clear" is "/usr/bin/clear" |
| 20:28.50 | DammitJim | I don't want to make myself go crazy |
| 20:28.55 | teraflops | ah, ok then |
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| 20:29.02 | amd_0x51 | I reset .bashrc too |
| 20:29.04 | DammitJim | but for a new service I am creating, should I have a different user than root? |
| 20:29.30 | greycat | If it were a bash issue, either clear would have been a function/alias, or he would be seeing the garbage characters after *every* shell command. |
| 20:29.45 | greycat | DammitJim: usually, yes. |
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| 20:29.51 | petemc | its only after clear, no? |
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| 20:30.02 | DammitJim | do I need to worry about creating a different user for different services? |
| 20:30.09 | asterismo_l | hi |
| 20:30.13 | greycat | DammitJim: too vague. |
| 20:30.28 | DammitJim | different services I am creating |
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| 20:30.34 | greycat | What do they *do*? |
| 20:30.34 | asterismo_l | i'm having some troubles with sound in a panasonic toughbook cf-31 |
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| 20:30.52 | DammitJim | for software we have developed.. like one service uploads files to an sftp server |
| 20:30.57 | amd_0x51 | I just launched gnome-terminal and it is the same |
| 20:31.03 | DammitJim | the other is listening for messages in a queue from RabbitMQ |
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| 20:31.07 | asterismo_l | debian 8 installed fine and i used to have sound until y rebooted and the sound is gone |
| 20:31.18 | amd_0x51 | google is also drawing a blank on this |
| 20:31.23 | asterismo_l | this is my syslog | grep sound... any clue? |
| 20:31.27 | greycat | amd_0x51: did you reinstall ncurses-base yet? |
| 20:31.40 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/983763/ |
| 20:32.00 | jhutchins_wk | DammitJim: It really is up to you. They could all run as root, or that might be a vulnerability. They could all run as damitjimcodaemon |
| 20:32.03 | Jesse__ | Greycat - I have now Debian back :-) |
| 20:32.14 | Jesse__ | Greycat - thanks |
| 20:32.27 | DammitJim | thanks |
| 20:32.32 | jhutchins_wk | DammitJim: You could argue for grouping them by using the same user, or for separating them out for some reason. |
| 20:32.47 | helloworld42 | asterismo_l: trying grep on "audio" instead of "sound" |
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| 20:33.04 | helloworld42 | also, ps -aux | grep audio |
| 20:33.05 | teraflops | DammitJim: you can also create --user units |
| 20:33.13 | greycat | DammitJim: if they all work "together", as part of the same project, and if this is not government/military type stuff, one user account for all of 'em should be OK |
| 20:33.45 | DammitJim | ok, thanks! |
| 20:33.56 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/983764/ |
| 20:34.01 | asterismo_l | helloworld42, |
| 20:34.29 | WeiJing | Say I have developed some software, and someone is nice enough to package it to debian and it gets in the official repo. And that later on I make changes and decide that I'd like to mantain that package for Debian. What happens? |
| 20:34.58 | asterismo_l | this is my aplay -l |
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| 20:35.03 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/983765/ |
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| 20:35.23 | helloworld42 | asterismo_l: how about lspci as well? want to see what hardware you have |
| 20:35.46 | asterismo_l | actually i can see the volume levels when playing an mp3... but no volume is coming out the speakers |
| 20:36.33 | teraflops | bah I dont get why debian's mpd doesnt have a systemd user unit |
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| 20:37.05 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/983767/ |
| 20:37.32 | asterismo_l | brb |
| 20:38.13 | helloworld42 | asterismo_l: did you use the standard deb system image, or the one with proprietary drivers as well? |
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| 20:38.16 | vcsaocjjeaobcbc | Saged, reported, hidden, called the cops, called the Fire Department, called pizza hut, called the USN, called the Royal Navy, called the Red Army, called the FBI. called the CIA, called Interpol, called the KGB, called the USMC, called the USAF, called the Royal Air force, called MI 6, called Scotland Yard, called the US National Guard of every state, called NYPD, called Obama, called the Queen, called Putin, called David Cameron, called every Govern |
| 20:38.16 | vcsaocjjeaobcbc | HI, BILLY MAYS HERE WITH GENTOO. DO YOU HAVE LOTS OF SHIT IN YOUR HOUSE LIKE WINDOWS OR OSX THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP?THEN DOWNLOAD SOME OF THIS GODDAMN GENTOO. THIS GENTOO COULD CLEAN THE NORTON OFF YOUR HARDDRIVES VAGINA. YOU CAN PUT SOME GENTOO ON YOUR SSD, AND IT'LL READ AND WRITE 3 TIMES FASTER. FUCK. |
| 20:38.16 | vcsaocjjeaobcbc | OwNeD By irc.badirc.cc |
| 20:38.22 | teraflops | :\ |
| 20:38.28 | amd_0x51 | :( |
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| 20:38.52 | Chack | Saged, reported, hidden, called the cops, called the Fire Department, called pizza hut, called the USN, called the Royal Navy, called the Red Army, called the FBI. called the CIA, called Interpol, called the KGB, called the USMC, called the USAF, called the Royal Air force, called MI 6, called Scotland Yard, called the US National Guard of every state, called NYPD, called Obama, called the Queen, called Putin, called David Cameron, called every Governor of ev |
| 20:38.52 | Chack | HI, BILLY MAYS HERE WITH GENTOO. DO YOU HAVE LOTS OF SHIT IN YOUR HOUSE LIKE WINDOWS OR OSX THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP?THEN DOWNLOAD SOME OF THIS GODDAMN GENTOO. THIS GENTOO COULD CLEAN THE NORTON OFF YOUR HARDDRIVES VAGINA. YOU CAN PUT SOME GENTOO ON YOUR SSD, AND IT'LL READ AND WRITE 3 TIMES FASTER. FUCK. |
| 20:38.52 | Chack | OwNeD By irc.badirc.cc |
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| 20:38.56 | annadane | !ops spam |
| 20:38.56 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: annadane complains about: spam |
| 20:39.03 | greycat | annadane: we can't DO ANYTHING about it |
| 20:39.11 | greycat | It's a fucking hit and run botnet. |
| 20:39.24 | greycat | all three were from different hosts |
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| 20:39.57 | amd_0x51 | reinstalled mate-terminal and ncurses-base |
| 20:40.12 | teraflops | you, the staff, could set deban +r though |
| 20:40.14 | amd_0x51 | not sure I want to try purging it with that nasty warning |
| 20:40.19 | teraflops | #debian |
| 20:40.24 | greycat | amd_0x51: is the problem still happening? |
| 20:40.33 | amd_0x51 | yeah really strange. |
| 20:40.39 | annadane | well, sorry. i assumed that was what you were supposed to do |
| 20:40.40 | amd_0x51 | I will go off and try to fix it |
| 20:40.44 | amd_0x51 | and report back if I can |
| 20:40.44 | greycat | amd_0x51: do you have a ~/.terminfo directory as this user? |
| 20:41.02 | petemc | amd_0x51: can you pastebin theoutput of the samecommands i did? |
| 20:41.02 | zq | possible to start x from a tty in lieu of a display manager (like xdm)? |
| 20:41.04 | greycat | or, do you have the TERMINFO variable set to anything? |
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| 20:42.23 | asterismo_l | i'm back |
| 20:42.27 | asterismo_l | still no sound |
| 20:42.38 | teraflops | alsamixer + unmute issue? |
| 20:42.39 | asterismo_l | any ideas? |
| 20:43.02 | asterismo_l | teraflops, i checked before but no muted devices |
| 20:43.18 | teraflops | are you using pulseadio? |
| 20:43.23 | format_c | asterismo_l, not devices but channels |
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| 20:44.52 | asterismo_l | i installed it for testing the sound |
| 20:45.10 | asterismo_l | i was not using it when it was working |
| 20:45.24 | teraflops | asterismo_l: if youre using pulseadio paste the output of `pactl list` to a sane pastebin |
| 20:46.01 | awal1 | How can I "know" why my debian doesn't detect "IrisPad7040" tablet? |
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| 20:46.11 | Golong | Saged, reported, hidden, called the cops, called the Fire Department, called pizza hut, called the USN, called the Royal Navy, called the Red Army, called the FBI. called the CIA, called Interpol, called the KGB, called the USMC, called the USAF, called the Royal Air force, called MI 6, called Scotland Yard, called the US National Guard of every state, called NYPD, called Obama, called the Queen, called Putin, called David Cameron, called every Governor |
| 20:46.11 | Golong | HI, BILLY MAYS HERE WITH GENTOO. DO YOU HAVE LOTS OF SHIT IN YOUR HOUSE LIKE WINDOWS OR OSX THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP?THEN DOWNLOAD SOME OF THIS GODDAMN GENTOO. THIS GENTOO COULD CLEAN THE NORTON OFF YOUR HARDDRIVES VAGINA. YOU CAN PUT SOME GENTOO ON YOUR SSD, AND IT'LL READ AND WRITE 3 TIMES FASTER. FUCK. |
| 20:46.11 | Golong | OwNeD By irc.badirc.cc |
| 20:46.25 | awal1 | I think "irispad" is made in Algeria :P |
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| 20:46.55 | teraflops | if you set +r the spammer will get tired eventually |
| 20:47.01 | teraflops | or spammers |
| 20:47.11 | AndChat692841 | awal1: run the command "dmesg -w" when you plug in the device, paste output of that command |
| 20:47.48 | teraflops | AndChat692841: north african technology :P |
| 20:48.04 | teraflops | oops I meant awal1 |
| 20:48.05 | asterismo_l | teraflops, debian pastebin? |
| 20:48.10 | teraflops | ok |
| 20:48.42 | teraflops | asterismo_l: if youre using pulseadio obv |
| 20:48.45 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/983768/ |
| 20:48.50 | asterismo_l | yes |
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| 20:49.55 | awal1 | AndChat692841, thanks for the suggestion; I forgot about dmesg :P I will check it later bcoz I'm using a non secure connection ;) |
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| 20:50.46 | teraflops | asterismo_l: State: SUSPENDED |
| 20:51.10 | awal1 | I don't understand why "they" made dmesg requiring root now |
| 20:52.17 | awal1 | ? |
| 20:52.36 | teraflops | asterismo_l: play music, then you want State: RUNNING |
| 20:53.07 | teraflops | if you dont get it running go use pavucontrol or whatever mixer and pick the correct sink |
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| 20:55.01 | Antos | Saged, reported, hidden, called the cops, called the Fire Department, called pizza hut, called the USN, called the Royal Navy, called the Red Army, called the FBI. called the CIA, called Interpol, called the KGB, called the USMC, called the USAF, called the Royal Air force, called MI 6, called Scotland Yard, called the US National Guard of every state, called NYPD, called Obama, called the Queen, called Putin, called David Cameron, called every Governor of eve |
| 20:55.01 | Antos | HI, BILLY MAYS HERE WITH GENTOO. DO YOU HAVE LOTS OF SHIT IN YOUR HOUSE LIKE WINDOWS OR OSX THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP?THEN DOWNLOAD SOME OF THIS GODDAMN GENTOO. THIS GENTOO COULD CLEAN THE NORTON OFF YOUR HARDDRIVES VAGINA. YOU CAN PUT SOME GENTOO ON YOUR SSD, AND IT'LL READ AND WRITE 3 TIMES FASTER. FUCK. |
| 20:55.01 | Antos | OwNeD By irc.badirc.cc |
| 20:55.47 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/983771/ |
| 20:55.52 | bezaban | !ops bleh |
| 20:55.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bezaban complains about: bleh |
| 20:56.11 | bezaban | oh nvm, quit |
| 20:56.24 | greycat | Again, it's a hit and run botnet. Every instance is from a different host. |
| 20:56.47 | bezaban | right, just scrolled back :( |
| 20:56.47 | teraflops | bah they cannot ban a non registered nick, and they seem to be plenty of IPs |
| 20:57.33 | asterismo_l | teraflops, i'm listening to a mumble channel but no auido is coming out |
| 20:57.39 | bezaban | I think it's geeknerd - he enjoys being annoying for some reason |
| 20:57.53 | teraflops | asterismo_l: read all what I wrote |
| 20:57.56 | asterismo_l | pavucontrol grabs the volumo levels and the device but no sound |
| 20:58.08 | teraflops | they hit debian because is not set +r, now I shutup xD |
| 20:58.15 | ram_ram_ram_ram | debian sound problems... classic |
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| 20:58.41 | asterismo_l | i don't know what you mean by picking the correct sin |
| 20:58.43 | asterismo_l | sink |
| 20:58.54 | teraflops | open pavuontrol |
| 20:58.59 | asterismo_l | opened |
| 20:59.03 | ram_ram_ram_ram | each sound card is routed to a "sink" |
| 20:59.31 | asterismo_l | ok |
| 20:59.34 | teraflops | asterismo_l: now investigate a bit, is pretty self explanatory :P |
| 21:00.41 | ram_ram_ram_ram | not always |
| 21:00.47 | ram_ram_ram_ram | driver config could have gotten fucked up |
| 21:00.54 | asterismo_l | pavucontrol shows me no sink whatsoever |
| 21:00.58 | ram_ram_ram_ram | sink routing could of gotten fucked up |
| 21:01.17 | asterismo_l | it shows the volume levels of all streams being played |
| 21:01.22 | teraflops | sure but I just read sink suspended in his pactl list output |
| 21:01.40 | ram_ram_ram_ram | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ceberous/22409d558bc18ce2a9eb09798b3b8296/raw/c0306bd781af9c4f59df17556a1d11d693b38d70/MoveAllSinksToSourceARG1.sh |
| 21:01.42 | asterismo_l | sink suspended? |
| 21:01.59 | ram_ram_ram_ram | run that with different "sink" arguments passed as $Arg1 |
| 21:02.00 | AndChat692841 | awal1: i think it should depend on whether sensitive information is logged to the kernal buffer |
| 21:02.15 | ram_ram_ram_ram | see if it changes anything, |
| 21:02.17 | teraflops | sorry I meant state |
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| 21:02.56 | ram_ram_ram_ram | pacmd list-sink-inputs |
| 21:03.00 | ram_ram_ram_ram | would find your available sinks |
| 21:03.14 | ram_ram_ram_ram | or $( pacmd list-sink-inputs | awk '/index:/' | sed 's/\index: //g' ) |
| 21:03.37 | greycat | I really doubt you want that $( ) |
| 21:03.42 | ram_ram_ram_ram | why |
| 21:04.00 | greycat | does pacmd generate a list of shell commands that you want to execute? |
| 21:04.08 | amd_0x51 | okay I am getting somewhere |
| 21:04.19 | amd_0x51 | clear | od -bc |
| 21:04.30 | amd_0x51 | gives me this |
| 21:04.31 | amd_0x51 | 033 [ 3 ; J 033 |
| 21:04.34 | teraflops | ram_ram_ram_ram: pactl list short ^ |
| 21:04.38 | amd_0x51 | which is what shows up when I type clear! |
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| 21:04.46 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/983775/ |
| 21:04.49 | amd_0x51 | so how do I stop that now.. |
| 21:04.55 | asterismo_l | ram_ram_ram_ram, ^ |
| 21:05.07 | greycat | amd_0x51: do you have a ~/.terminfo directory on this user account? Do you have TERMINFO set to anything on this user account? |
| 21:05.10 | ram_ram_ram_ram | @teraflops , yes , but what is wrong with a "1-liner" i already had prepared that just outputs the source index's ? |
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| 21:05.31 | amd_0x51 | not that I am aware of. There is no .terminfo |
| 21:06.11 | teraflops | ram_ram_ram_ram: nothing |
| 21:06.22 | teraflops | asterismo_l: mumble? |
| 21:06.25 | ram_ram_ram_ram | @aterism , ok so try running $( pacmd move-sink-input 15 ); |
| 21:06.31 | greycat | TERM=xterm clear | od -bc on my stretch system, gives 033 [ 3 J 033 [ H 033 [ 2 J |
| 21:06.32 | asterismo_l | so my sink index is 15? |
| 21:06.43 | ram_ram_ram_ram | or the bash script I sent will move all sources |
| 21:07.00 | teraflops | asterismo_l: are you using mumble? |
| 21:07.08 | ram_ram_ram_ram | ./MoveAllSinksToSourceARG1.sh 15 |
| 21:07.27 | teraflops | asterismo_l: set it to use pulseadio |
| 21:07.51 | greycat | amd_0x51: what does "infocmp xterm | head -n 1" say? |
| 21:08.36 | AndChat692841 | \join gnome |
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| 21:09.36 | asterismo_l | teraflops, ram_ram_ram_ram now i stopped listening to mumble and started playing an mp3 with mplayer |
| 21:09.41 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/983778/ |
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| 21:10.52 | ram_ram_ram_ram | i'm not sure why it's always moving things to new sinks. |
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| 21:11.30 | Fitzmaurice | Saged, reported, hidden, called the cops, called the Fire Department, called pizza hut, called the USN, called the Royal Navy, called the Red Army, called the FBI. called the CIA, called Interpol, called the KGB, called the USMC, called the USAF, called the Royal Air force, called MI 6, called Scotland Yard, called the US National Guard of every state, called NYPD, called Obama, called the Queen, called Putin, called David Cameron, called every Gover |
| 21:11.44 | ram_ram_ram_ram | $( pacmd set-default-sink 15 ); |
| 21:11.50 | teraflops | yeah |
| 21:11.51 | ram_ram_ram_ram | but it appears that won't help anything |
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| 21:12.02 | ram_ram_ram_ram | if new audio sources always are getting a "new" sink |
| 21:12.35 | amd_0x51 | #Reconstructed via infocmp from file: /lib/terminfo/x/xterm |
| 21:12.40 | amd_0x51 | greycat, ^ |
| 21:12.55 | greycat | amd_0x51: are you sure you are on *DEBIAN*? |
| 21:12.57 | asterismo_l | bash: Sink: command not found |
| 21:13.08 | amd_0x51 | yeah for sure |
| 21:13.10 | ram_ram_ram_ram | was the audio still playing when you ran the command ? |
| 21:13.10 | amd_0x51 | jessie |
| 21:13.15 | greycat | asterismo_l: ram_ram_ram_ram keeps putting $() around things. Ignore that. He is ignorant. |
| 21:13.29 | ram_ram_ram_ram | what is wrong with $() ? |
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| 21:14.08 | greycat | ram_ram_ram_ram: IT CAUSES BASH TO EXECUTE THE OUTPUT OF YOUR INNER COMMAND, AS A SECOND COMMAND |
| 21:14.22 | greycat | wooledg:~$ $( echo hi ) |
| 21:14.22 | greycat | bash: hi: command not found |
| 21:14.29 | asterismo_l | Sink 15 does not exist |
| 21:14.53 | asterismo_l | now is 18 |
| 21:15.01 | greycat | amd_0x51: even on a jessie system, TERM=xterm clear | od -bc gives me 033 [ 3 ; J 033 [ H 033 [ 2 J |
| 21:15.24 | asterismo_l | but sink 18 does not exist either |
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| 21:15.31 | amd_0x51 | this is weird |
| 21:15.43 | amd_0x51 | it isn't doing anything.. just weird. I've never seen it before lol |
| 21:15.49 | asterismo_l | but it shows 18 |
| 21:16.16 | asterismo_l | i had to play mp3 song again so that is why sink indekx changed |
| 21:16.39 | amd_0x51 | how woudl I change the output of echo $TERM |
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| 21:16.47 | amd_0x51 | at the moment it is xterm |
| 21:16.50 | teraflops | asterismo_l: pactl/pacmd set-default sink (^press tab) is enough |
| 21:16.51 | amd_0x51 | where do I change this |
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| 21:17.08 | amd_0x51 | please excuse my ignorance |
| 21:17.09 | asterismo_l | it says index 18 sink 0 |
| 21:17.09 | teraflops | amd_0x51: you dont have to change it, that's the point |
| 21:17.29 | ram_ram_ram_ram | somehow pulse is recycling the sinks |
| 21:17.42 | ram_ram_ram_ram | and creating new ones each time a new audio feed starts |
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| 21:17.48 | asterismo_l | pacmd set-default-sink alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo |
| 21:17.56 | asterismo_l | it autocompletes to that |
| 21:18.17 | teraflops | asterismo_l: idk what you did there or what happened, kill xorg and logout or restart, then check again |
| 21:18.25 | teraflops | good |
| 21:18.34 | teraflops | do you have sound now? |
| 21:18.37 | ram_ram_ram_ram | killing xorg won't reset the alsa config |
| 21:18.37 | amd_0x51 | I only ask because I found someone with a similar issue. The answer they got was " if TERM doesn't match the kind of terminal you;re using clear will pick the wrong string" |
| 21:18.43 | amd_0x51 | i think this is what is happening here |
| 21:18.48 | teraflops | he is running pulseadio... |
| 21:18.56 | ram_ram_ram_ram | pulseaudio wraps alsa ? |
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| 21:19.02 | teraflops | ;S |
| 21:19.12 | greycat | amd_0x51: which is why I wanted to find a man page for your terminal and see what it says TERM should be set to, but the man page for mate-terminal says NOTHING useful. |
| 21:19.17 | asterismo_l | this is right now: http://paste.debian.net/983779/ |
| 21:19.27 | teraflops | ram_ram_ram_ram: yeah alsa runs on top of pulseadio |
| 21:19.54 | teraflops | and you do not have to touch a single line of alsa configs |
| 21:20.15 | amd_0x51 | shall I try a channel related to mate? |
| 21:20.31 | asterismo_l | sound was running fine |
| 21:20.38 | teraflops | amd_0x51: idk whats going on there to be honest |
| 21:20.41 | amd_0x51 | because I am not sure this is a debian thing |
| 21:20.56 | teraflops | I was young time ago too |
| 21:21.08 | asterismo_l | the laptop suspended a few times. i aonly installed file-roller and a jre-7 update... |
| 21:21.36 | teraflops | asterismo_l: tried rebooting after the wake ups from suspension? |
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| 21:21.46 | amd_0x51 | thanks for to everyone for your patience. You've been most helpful |
| 21:22.21 | asterismo_l | i powered off the laptop and after that sound ws gone |
| 21:22.22 | teraflops | maybe something got borked, not the first time something breaks after resuming from suspend |
| 21:22.33 | asterismo_l | i have restarted it 3 or 4 times since |
| 21:22.41 | teraflops | asterismo_l: you do dual boot there? |
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| 21:22.47 | asterismo_l | no |
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| 21:23.21 | ram_ram_ram_ram | what do your config files in /etc/pulse/ and ~/.config/pulse look like ? |
| 21:25.00 | teraflops | asterismo_l: wait, do you have external speakers? |
| 21:26.00 | ram_ram_ram_ram | idk but he was using "<alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo>" at one point |
| 21:26.02 | asterismo_l | laptop speakers |
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| 21:27.38 | asterismo_l | http://paste.debian.net/983783/ |
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| 21:28.37 | ram_ram_ram_ram | could an option be to create a virtual sink , and force everything to dump to it ? |
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| 21:29.02 | dreamer | uhg, I did something I shouldn't have on my stretch install. which is mess around with wine. now I'm in dependency hell .. |
| 21:29.55 | dreamer | https://hastebin.com/pidugiqofu.sql |
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| 21:30.14 | dreamer | anyone an idea how this could be fixen? >_< |
| 21:30.16 | dreamer | fixed* |
| 21:30.28 | ram_ram_ram_ram | lol you call that dependancy hell ? |
| 21:30.38 | dreamer | well, 1st stage of hell |
| 21:30.40 | dreamer | there are many stages ;) |
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| 21:31.21 | dreamer | more that dpkg is now stuck and obviously I'm too tired to even think of how to fix this :# |
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| 21:33.37 | ram_ram_ram_ram | dpkg --purge --force-depends "wine-rt" |
| 21:33.37 | dpkg | drinks a glass of salty water, sticks his fingers down his throat and throws up --force-depends "wine-rt" all over ram_ram_ram_ram and jhutchins... |
| 21:33.52 | annadane | ... |
| 21:33.58 | dreamer | hahaha |
| 21:33.59 | ram_ram_ram_ram | what have I done |
| 21:34.03 | annadane | o...k |
| 21:34.13 | dreamer | ram_ram_ram_ram: eh -> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove wine-rt which isn't installed |
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| 21:34.31 | ram_ram_ram_ram | sudo apt-get clean all |
| 21:34.59 | dreamer | nope |
| 21:35.27 | ram_ram_ram_ram | sudo apt-get -y autoremove |
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| 21:36.08 | dreamer | that gets me to: https://hastebin.com/otiyuqeqop.coffeescript |
| 21:37.02 | ram_ram_ram_ram | sudo dpkg --configure -a |
| 21:37.10 | ram_ram_ram_ram | or |
| 21:37.12 | ram_ram_ram_ram | sudo sh -c "apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade;apt-get autoremove;apt-get autoclean" |
| 21:37.30 | asterismo_m | should i delete all sound configurations? |
| 21:37.37 | dreamer | hmm, it did process some triggers for stuff |
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| 21:37.49 | dreamer | https://hastebin.com/eyivivepeg.lua |
| 21:38.21 | ram_ram_ram_ram | now try to purge wine-rt\* |
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| 21:39.07 | asterismo_m | any ideas? |
| 21:39.20 | ram_ram_ram_ram | @asterismo possibly your user config ones. make a backup of them and then try |
| 21:39.26 | dreamer | ram_ram_ram_ram: hmm -> https://hastebin.com/icuyopemav.coffeescript |
| 21:39.29 | ram_ram_ram_ram | leave the /etc/pulse ones |
| 21:39.36 | dreamer | (or not sure how you meant to do this purge glob) |
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| 21:40.20 | danielh1234 | I noticed that all directories in my home directory have an mtime of at least [one of two consecutive seconds about one month ago]. Any idea what could cause all dir mtimes to update while leaving files alone? zsh history includes nothing that might cause it. |
| 21:40.34 | ram_ram_ram_ram | sudo apt-get purge wine-rt* |
| 21:40.56 | dreamer | ram_ram_ram_ram: same ase above |
| 21:40.59 | dreamer | -e |
| 21:41.26 | ram_ram_ram_ram | so i'm not sure. but it appears playonlinux has to be removed too |
| 21:41.33 | asterismo_m | ok |
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| 21:42.31 | dreamer | ram_ram_ram_ram: ok, added the other packages to the purge |
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| 21:42.50 | dreamer | ram_ram_ram_ram: thnx, seems to be out of it now <3 |
| 21:42.57 | dreamer | try reinstall those carla packages |
| 21:43.07 | ram_ram_ram_ram | SeemsGood |
| 21:43.29 | dreamer | many thnx_thnx_thnx_thnx |
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| 21:43.51 | ram_ram_ram_ram | please kill me |
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| 21:43.59 | dreamer | kill -9 ram_ram_ram_ram |
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| 21:46.36 | Posterdati | hi please I need help to install UEFI notebook (hp probook 470 g4) |
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| 21:48.29 | mezod | hello, I created a .sh with a shebang, aboslute paths and correct permissions (-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 181 Aug 29 12:51 /etc/cron.daily/lists.sh) and put it inside cron.daily. I can execute it but cron.daily doesn't. Using "run-parts -v --report /etc/cron.daily" doesn't list it as executed. Any ideas of what may I be doing wrong? Do I need to add the script somewhere else other than the folder? |
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| 21:52.42 | asterismo_m | where are the user alsa config files? |
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| 21:53.04 | asterismo_m | to delete them |
| 21:53.43 | tubaman | mezod: try without the .sh extension |
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| 21:54.37 | mezod | tubaman: you mean, I should create the file without .sh right? |
| 21:54.44 | tubaman | mezod: correct |
| 21:55.01 | tubaman | asterismo_m: AFAIK it's ~/.asoundrc |
| 21:55.23 | asterismo_m | thanks |
| 21:55.32 | tubaman | asterismo_m: np |
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| 21:56.17 | mezod | tubaman: genius, thanks!! |
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| 22:00.34 | tubaman | mezod: nope just man pages ;) |
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| 22:23.57 | hiole24 | Hello im trying to download the new version of debian but the one thats not just the terminal but full desktop version |
| 22:24.03 | hiole24 | can someone help |
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| 22:24.16 | abrotman | hiole24: the netinst works for that |
| 22:24.23 | hiole24 | i want to create a iso file and install from usb |
| 22:24.27 | abrotman | you setup your apt sources, download teh packages you need from the internet |
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| 22:25.56 | hiole24 | the one that will work with usb |
| 22:26.04 | hiole24 | on flash drive |
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| 22:27.43 | coruja | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 22:28.19 | hiole24 | thanks |
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| 22:28.26 | hiole24 | whats the difference between |
| 22:28.44 | hiole24 | amd64 and i386 ? |
| 22:29.17 | abrotman | youalmost certainly have amd64 |
| 22:29.59 | hiole24 | oh ok |
| 22:30.40 | hiole24 | because i have an older pc |
| 22:30.48 | hiole24 | from 2012 asus |
| 22:31.11 | klys | hiole24, amd64 systems started coming out ~2003. |
| 22:31.16 | coruja | that's not really old |
| 22:32.31 | hiole24 | oh ok |
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| 23:33.09 | asterismo_l | hi |
| 23:33.19 | asterismo_l | i still have no sound |
| 23:33.35 | asterismo_l | i deleted pulse user config |
| 23:33.45 | asterismo_l | but i have no alsa user config |
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| 23:40.30 | well_laid_lawn | have you looked at alsamixer ? |
| 23:40.42 | well_laid_lawn | make sure nothing is muted |
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