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| 00:03.59 | tw | 3.2.0-4-amd64 is a debian 7 kernel. Check the wheezy repos if you can't upgrade. |
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| 00:09.13 | Ashraf | hi |
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| 00:10.21 | Ashraf | please am a new user on this linux......that why i try to find experts |
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| 00:13.46 | ninjai | ashka, perhaps try asking a question |
| 00:14.01 | ninjai | ashraf* |
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| 00:39.27 | denis | i've updated |
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| 00:39.34 | denis | debian stretch to buster |
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| 00:40.05 | denis | and i'm having a little problem in gnome-shell. When i right click and choose one of the options like: Wallpaper it doesn't open |
| 00:40.08 | denis | anything |
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| 00:41.47 | denis | what can i do? |
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| 00:43.05 | annadane | denis, #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 00:43.10 | annadane | is the place for buster/sid questions |
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| 01:44.15 | chaless_ | hey guys |
| 01:44.30 | chaless_ | i cant do yum update |
| 01:44.38 | chaless_ | http://vault.centos.org/centos/5/os/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found |
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| 01:45.19 | chaless_ | can someone help me? |
| 01:45.31 | chaless_ | Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: base. Please verify its path and try again |
| 01:46.25 | crimsonmane | looks like you should be asking CentOS |
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| 01:46.52 | chaless_ | oh yeah |
| 01:46.56 | chaless_ | sorry haha |
| 01:46.58 | annadane | yeah i was going to say |
| 01:48.05 | chaless_ | centos-unregistered Cannot send to channel |
| 01:48.17 | chaless_ | oh i hate it |
| 01:48.27 | annadane | !centos |
| 01:48.27 | dpkg | CentOS (Community ENTerprise Operating System) is a rebuild of the Red Hat Enterprise Linux RPMs by the community. http://centos.org/ For IRC support, join #centos on irc.freenode.net. |
| 01:48.35 | annadane | ah |
| 01:49.34 | chaless_ | #centos unable to join channel (address is banned) |
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| 01:49.38 | chaless_ | wow |
| 01:49.52 | chaless_ | i dont know whats happend |
| 01:50.21 | chaless_ | cause my nick is unregistered ? |
| 01:50.29 | annadane | probably |
| 01:50.37 | annadane | otherwise, enable ssl |
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| 01:51.34 | chaless_ | annadane |
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| 01:51.49 | chaless_ | Why dont you help me? |
| 01:51.52 | chaless_ | u can |
| 01:51.54 | chaless_ | haha |
| 01:52.12 | annadane | what? i don't know why you can't get into their irc and i can't help you with centos |
| 01:52.34 | chaless_ | you know fix it |
| 01:52.36 | chaless_ | ;( |
| 01:52.38 | chaless_ | haha |
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| 01:59.45 | crimsonmane | chaless_: google "irc register nickname" |
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| 02:07.33 | RoyK | crimsonmane: or google nickserv freenode register or just /msg nickserv help |
| 02:08.23 | crimsonmane | or i could tell him why the repo isn't working, but that would be too easy |
| 02:08.41 | dvs | yup |
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| 03:39.26 | rue_mohr_ | ok, its not strictly a debian question, but could anyone help walk me thru making a ramdisk for my new kernel? |
| 03:40.08 | rue_mohr_ | I'm guiless... |
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| 03:41.49 | somiaj | why not use the kernels debian provides? Otherwise I would check out some of the various guides to building kernels on debian. |
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| 03:43.36 | rue_mohr_ | the kernels debian provides take a long time to boot, and will not accept the nvidia drivers |
| 03:44.29 | rue_mohr_ | to get X back, it looks like I need to use the manuf drivers, and they wont install with the debian kernel |
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| 03:44.45 | somiaj | what? I use the debian kernels just fine with the nvidia drivers don't have troubles booting |
| 03:44.46 | rue_mohr_ | and nobody has been much help to that effect |
| 03:45.01 | somiaj | manuf drivers? What graphics card do you ahve? |
| 03:45.08 | rue_mohr_ | GF106 |
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| 03:46.14 | rue_mohr_ | so back to my origional question, how do I make a ramdisk? |
| 03:46.44 | rue_mohr_ | maybe I dont need one if I build in the proper drivers for getting to the hard disks |
| 03:47.12 | rue_mohr_ | I think you only need a ramdisk to give the kernel access to the modules to access the filesystem |
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| 03:47.24 | rue_mohr_ | ... kernel 2.6 was nice... |
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| 03:51.49 | rue_mohr_ | somiaj I feel like I been written off as a troll? |
| 03:52.13 | rue_mohr_ | if you would like to help me get X working instead, I really dont mind |
| 03:52.29 | rue_mohr_ | I'm just starting from the ground, where I usually do after a kernel change |
| 03:53.07 | somiaj | I don't see why the nvidia drivers from debian won't just work. They support the 700M family of gpu's which that appears to use. It isn't some optimus setup? |
| 03:53.28 | somiaj | it was working before and you changed your kernel, what version of debian are you running? |
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| 03:55.02 | rue_mohr_ | somiaj the debian drivers aren't working, I cant get X to take them |
| 03:55.28 | rue_mohr_ | I'm still running the debian kernel 4.9.0-3 |
| 03:55.30 | rue_mohr_ | pae |
| 03:56.08 | rue_mohr_ | is there a util to give me lsmod as a tree? |
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| 03:57.20 | somiaj | what do you mean you can't get X to take them, did you load the module correctly? |
| 03:57.53 | somiaj | but I'm not familar with that gpu/cpu combo. I can't verify forusre they are supported, but I don't see how newer nvidia drivers will help. |
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| 04:02.47 | rue_mohr_ | its a tower, not a laptop |
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| 04:03.25 | rue_mohr_ | X is throwing me errors regarding video drivers |
| 04:03.46 | somiaj | what errors? did you properly build the nvidia module for your kernel. |
| 04:03.53 | rue_mohr_ | in the past, I'v NOT been able to make the noview (neoveau) drivers work (for prolonged periods of time) |
| 04:04.18 | somiaj | everything thing I see says it should be supported just fine with the nvidia drivers in stretch with the stretch kernel. I don't see why you need to be building your own kernel for this, or why it would make it work. |
| 04:04.49 | rue_mohr_ | I couldn't build the drivers, the build directory was missing in the modules, and even after I made it, it would error out trying to build |
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| 04:05.07 | somiaj | how did you try to build the module, did you follow the instructions on the debian wiki? |
| 04:05.14 | somiaj | !nvidia dkms |
| 04:05.14 | dpkg | For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. |
| 04:05.24 | rue_mohr_ | I been at this for years, I ALWAYS end up having to build my own drivers |
| 04:05.30 | somiaj | sounds like your issue was with building the modules |
| 04:05.38 | rue_mohr_ | and configuring X |
| 04:06.04 | rue_mohr_ | but I can make this all work if I start from the ground, build my own kernel, and use the nvidia drivers |
| 04:06.28 | somiaj | that is most likey your problem, you should really just use the debian kernel and the auto dkms build scripts. Works great here. |
| 04:06.43 | rue_mohr_ | but the kernel I made cant boot cause it dosn't have a ramdisk, cause I used teh debian kenel config and, from what I cn tell, there is no ata driver |
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| 04:06.44 | somiaj | but we don't really support building kernels and using the upstream nvidia drivers here |
| 04:06.50 | rue_mohr_ | so I'm reconfiguring, rebuilding |
| 04:07.05 | somiaj | you could probably save a lot of time by just doing this the 'debian way' |
| 04:07.24 | rue_mohr_ | somiaj well, I'm guiless, help walk me thru the suggested nvidia process |
| 04:08.05 | somiaj | follo what the bot said. For me all I have to do is apt-get install linux-headers-amd64 nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 04:08.33 | somiaj | that builds the driver, then a small modification to xorg.conf and I'm using the drivers. |
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| 04:11.18 | rue_mohr_ | ok hold on, my processor is an AMD Athalon 2 X3 455 |
| 04:11.28 | rue_mohr_ | should I be using 686-pae? |
| 04:11.47 | somiaj | I would be using 64bit if it was me, but if you want use 686-pae, and replace the headers above correctly |
| 04:12.12 | rue_mohr_ | I'm happy at 32 bits, is that the only difference? |
| 04:12.29 | somiaj | yea, you just need the correct headers for your kernel. |
| 04:12.38 | rue_mohr_ | k, I have the headers installed tho |
| 04:12.54 | rue_mohr_ | just a sec, it might have been a botched install, let me remove/reinstall |
| 04:12.57 | rue_mohr_ | purge? |
| 04:12.58 | somiaj | then isntalling nvidia-kernel-dkms will build the drivers. |
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| 04:13.28 | rue_mohr_ | (I'll start you at terminal #5...) |
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| 04:15.18 | rue_mohr_ | fatalerrors:could not locate dkms.conf file |
| 04:15.36 | somiaj | you have something messed up on your system then |
| 04:15.44 | zentris | Running Strech, added "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch-backports main" to sources.list and ran apt update. |
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| 04:15.48 | rue_mohr_ | I need to stop using tab for general word completion |
| 04:15.53 | zentris | However, when I try to "apt install torbrowser-launcher -t stretch-backports" I get Package torbrowser-launcher is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 04:16.12 | rue_mohr_ | somiaj well, ok, cmon, lets climb the tree you planted |
| 04:16.16 | zentris | Basically cannot figure out how to install torbrowser-launcher (tor browser) on Debian Stretch, any clue? |
| 04:16.16 | somiaj | my guess it has to do with the custom stuff you have done |
| 04:16.22 | somiaj | ,v torbrowser-launcher |
| 04:16.23 | judd | Package: torbrowser-launcher on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 0.1.9-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 0.1.9-1+deb8u3; jessie-backports/contrib: 0.2.6-2~bpo8+1; jessie-backports-sloppy/contrib: 0.2.8-1~bpo8+1; stretch-backports/contrib: 0.2.8-1~bpo9+1; buster/contrib: 0.2.8-1; sid/contrib: 0.2.8-1 |
| 04:16.28 | rue_mohr_ | lets fix dkms... |
| 04:16.44 | somiaj | zentris: the browser is in contrib, you need to add contrib and maybe non-free to your sources.list |
| 04:16.47 | somiaj | !contrib |
| 04:16.48 | dpkg | [contrib] Debian packages that contain <DFSG>-compliant software, but have dependencies not in main (possibly packaged for Debian in non-free). To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ [stretch|buster|sid] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then «aptitude update». Also ask me about <non-free>, <contrib list>. |
| 04:17.10 | zentris | thank you somiaj will try that |
| 04:18.02 | rue_mohr_ | dkms wasn't installed |
| 04:18.12 | rue_mohr_ | maybe that should be a dependency for the headers package? |
| 04:18.16 | rue_mohr_ | !! |
| 04:18.16 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
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| 04:18.42 | somiaj | rue_mohr_: why? It should be a dependency of the nvidia-kernel-dkms package I asked you to install |
| 04:19.28 | zentris | somiaj: worked now, thanks again |
| 04:19.29 | rue_mohr_ | after installing dkms, it still cant find the dkms.conf file |
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| 04:20.06 | rue_mohr_ | this is just trying to install the kernel headers, I'm not at the vnidia one yet |
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| 04:20.38 | somiaj | then you must have other packages alreayd installed, do you have any dkms packages installed already? |
| 04:21.51 | rue_mohr_ | I'd probably already installed the nvidia-kernel-dkms and it bailed for a similar reason |
| 04:22.29 | somiaj | dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 04:22.38 | somiaj | but with everything you have done, you may need to clean stuff up. |
| 04:25.55 | rue_mohr_ | ah it wasn't installed, |
| 04:26.08 | rue_mohr_ | and it looks like it just locked up trying to uninstall the nvidia stuff |
| 04:26.13 | somiaj | anyways on a clean system, this is mostly automatic |
| 04:26.32 | rue_mohr_ | thats great, I'm not reinstalling this system |
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| 04:26.51 | rue_mohr_ | yea, it locked |
| 04:26.52 | somiaj | so then you have to track down stuff that is broken. Does apt-get -f install try to do anything? |
| 04:27.20 | rue_mohr_ | right now apt it locked in one of its subprocesses trying to uninstall nvidia drivers |
| 04:27.31 | rue_mohr_ | somiaj so, about that ramdisk? |
| 04:27.36 | rue_mohr_ | :) |
| 04:27.53 | rue_mohr_ | I'm gonna have to kill apt, thats gonna piss it off |
| 04:28.00 | somiaj | if you build the kernel the debian way with make deb-pkg, it should make the randisk for you. |
| 04:28.25 | rue_mohr_ | somiaj that would put me at square 1 tho |
| 04:28.45 | somiaj | you have a lot of unstandard issues which I don't really want to dive to the bottom of. |
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| 04:28.52 | somiaj | You'll get better support doing things the debian way. |
| 04:28.58 | rue_mohr_ | I'd have the kernel I have now, that wont take the nvidia drivers |
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| 04:29.15 | rue_mohr_ | somiaj I know |
| 04:29.26 | rue_mohr_ | but #linuxhelp isn't what it was back in 2002 |
| 04:29.48 | somiaj | maybe ##linux |
| 04:30.00 | somiaj | there are also lots of guids for building your own kernel on debian. |
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| 04:32.21 | rue_mohr_ | somiaj I have an idea |
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| 04:33.26 | rue_mohr_ | because of a dependency loop where libc required a newer kernel than I was running, and for that I needed to install ramdisk-utils, which I couldn't because it depended on the libc that wouldn't isntall, I copied the kernel and modules from another system |
| 04:33.39 | rue_mohr_ | as such, there could be some minor files missing |
| 04:33.57 | rue_mohr_ | how can I reinstall the kernel package over the existing files? |
| 04:34.01 | rue_mohr_ | without removing it |
| 04:34.48 | rue_mohr_ | (dont get me wrong, I'm working on both our solutions in parallel) |
| 04:35.17 | rue_mohr_ | oh, and how do I get apt-get to abort trying to install the packages its working on |
| 04:35.25 | somiaj | over existing files? You shoudln't be doing manually installing files in locations debian packages put things. |
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| 04:35.31 | rue_mohr_ | cause, that'll be a dependant issue |
| 04:35.49 | rue_mohr_ | because of a dependency loop where libc required a newer kernel than I was running, and for that I needed to install ramdisk-utils, which I couldn't because it depended on the libc that wouldn't isntall, I copied the kernel and modules from another system |
| 04:35.52 | somiaj | at this point it sounds like you have a frakendebian, what is it doing downloading packages or other stuff? |
| 04:35.55 | rue_mohr_ | it was locked |
| 04:36.10 | somiaj | wait you have installed a different libc6 than the stock. |
| 04:36.16 | rue_mohr_ | no |
| 04:36.29 | rue_mohr_ | I copied the kernel and modules from another debian system |
| 04:36.40 | rue_mohr_ | it was the only way to unlock the dependency loop |
| 04:36.42 | somiaj | yea I'm done trying to help, my advice, do a clean install and work from there, it will be much faster than what you are doing. |
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| 04:36.58 | rue_mohr_ | this was installed in 2002, I'm not giving up now |
| 04:36.59 | somiaj | if you are only using debian stable you should not be finding dependency loops, these come from breaking things |
| 04:37.26 | somiaj | ahh, well it would be a good time to change to amd64, since a reinstall makes that the easiest. |
| 04:37.29 | rue_mohr_ | ugh, all that and all I have is a broken apt-get |
| 04:37.39 | rue_mohr_ | not reinstalling |
| 04:38.21 | Rusty1_ | reinstall , or spend your life here |
| 04:38.24 | rue_mohr_ | so apt-get is going to try to run a script that locks up every time I run it... |
| 04:40.08 | rue_mohr_ | if I have a package that is broken for install, how do i remove it from the install-pending list? |
| 04:40.31 | rue_mohr_ | apt-get will lock up if I try to install, I need to get it to back down |
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| 04:40.53 | somiaj | !nst |
| 04:40.57 | somiaj | !bat |
| 04:40.57 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 04:41.07 | somiaj | you give vauge info, you need to give details if you expect much help |
| 04:41.56 | rue_mohr_ | the nvidia-kernel-dkms package has a script it tries to run that locks up |
| 04:42.15 | rue_mohr_ | now that I'v told apt I want it installed, it will insist on trying to install that package |
| 04:42.42 | rue_mohr_ | and it'll lock up every time, I need to tell it, or edit a magic file, to get it to NOT try to finish installing that package |
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| 04:43.41 | rue_mohr_ | dpkg says that nvidia-kernel-dkms is not installed |
| 04:43.42 | dpkg | okay, rue_mohr_ |
| 04:44.15 | rue_mohr_ | you see how helping me with a ramdisk might have been a better road? |
| 04:44.42 | somiaj | The bot asked you for fairly specific information to provide. |
| 04:44.51 | rue_mohr_ | now I'm up the creek *and* have no paddle |
| 04:45.05 | rue_mohr_ | I'm on a text terminal cause my gui is broken, remmeber? |
| 04:45.18 | somiaj | so, lots of ways to provide that info |
| 04:45.31 | rue_mohr_ | even if I was into typing out a 1000 line file, I'v got no webbrowser to do it |
| 04:45.42 | somiaj | !pastebinit |
| 04:45.42 | dpkg | A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 04:45.48 | somiaj | use ssh from another machine, and so forth. |
| 04:46.18 | somiaj | but without output it is hard to debug what is going on. |
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| 04:48.26 | somiaj | if the postinst/postrm scripts are failing they are located in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 04:48.36 | rue_mohr_ | I dont have the run text, shall I tell you that the nvidia-kernel-dkms package installed version is none? |
| 04:48.48 | rue_mohr_ | ah |
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| 04:49.20 | rue_mohr_ | wholy &*%@#% there are a few files in there |
| 04:49.41 | somiaj | well of course, every packages post/pre isntall scripts, and other stuff about the package is stored there |
| 04:49.59 | rue_mohr_ | there is nothing in there for the kernel nvidia package |
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| 04:50.27 | rue_mohr_ | oh, its an alias |
| 04:50.35 | rue_mohr_ | aka under another name |
| 04:50.57 | somiaj | well that package isn't installed. Again you aren't giving output so it is just a shot in the dark. |
| 04:51.16 | rue_mohr_ | its hard to show the output of a locked apt-get |
| 04:51.27 | rue_mohr_ | oh idea |
| 04:51.51 | somiaj | but enough, maybe someone else will help you. But my suggestion is just do a fresh install and then do things the debian way. These issues shouldn't be happening with a clean debian install. |
| 04:51.53 | rue_mohr_ | oh... stand by |
| 04:53.02 | rue_mohr_ | yea, my paddle floated away |
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| 04:53.59 | TTT | Hi, not sure if this is the right channel to ask this (which one is?) I have a Debian PC/router with 1 wired ethernet port, and a wireless card. Right now it uses ethernet port for PPPoE, and creates a local net over wifi. I want to add a wired local network, but I cannot add more ethernet ports. I guess I can create eth1:1 device in Linux and route traffic via that. My question is- if I buy a managed switch (say TP-Link TL-SG108E), can I separate the PPPoE WAN |
| 04:54.00 | TTT | traffic from local traffic? |
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| 04:54.18 | rue_mohr_ | hmm, apt-get install reports that /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked |
| 04:54.26 | rue_mohr_ | prolly from having killed apt-get |
| 04:54.40 | rue_mohr_ | ... know what the lock file is? |
| 04:55.30 | rue_mohr_ | oo I think I got it happy |
| 04:55.43 | rue_mohr_ | ok |
| 04:56.00 | rue_mohr_ | your solution died, back to mine.. |
| 04:56.19 | rue_mohr_ | "make" |
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| 04:56.49 | Tom-_ | rue_mohr_, check to see if there's a perl debconf process running |
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| 05:03.05 | rue_mohr_ | I was able to ask it to uninstall the package and it did that before trying to finish the install |
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| 05:04.18 | rue_mohr_ | I dont know if i'm right, but I'm compiling a kernel with the required ata support, which I think means I dont need a ramdisk to boot |
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| 05:05.33 | rue_mohr_ | but your right, there is |
| 05:06.31 | rue_mohr_ | for the record, nvidia-installer-cleanup.postinst |
| 05:06.40 | rue_mohr_ | apt-get clean |
| 05:06.44 | rue_mohr_ | wrong console |
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| 05:08.12 | rue_mohr_ | Tom-_ thanks |
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| 05:14.20 | rue_mohr_ | its funny, if you took a history of #debian since 2002, you would proabably see the progression of where I am today |
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| 05:17.44 | rue_mohr_ | so, is there a tree view of lsmod? |
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| 05:19.15 | n_blownapart | hi how do I turn off exit confirmation on the gnome term? I tried gconf-editor but cannot find gnome-terminal under "apps" thanks |
| 05:19.26 | n_blownapart | jessie 8 |
| 05:20.15 | rue_mohr_ | hmm |
| 05:20.23 | rue_mohr_ | did you look in... |
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| 05:21.24 | rue_mohr_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:21.30 | rue_mohr_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:23.02 | rue_mohr_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.08 | rue_mohr_ | n_blownapart you still here? |
| 05:23.19 | n_blownapart | yeah thanks |
| 05:23.55 | n_blownapart | but I meant that when you open gconf-editor, you navigate to apps -> gnome-terminal ... |
| 05:23.57 | n_blownapart | rue_mohr_, |
| 05:24.22 | n_blownapart | but I cannot navigate to gnome-terminal |
| 05:24.22 | rue_mohr_ | but your talking about it confirming when you quit, right? |
| 05:24.27 | n_blownapart | yeah |
| 05:24.34 | rue_mohr_ | wait, what? |
| 05:24.40 | rue_mohr_ | you can start it right? |
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| 05:25.29 | rue_mohr_ | hmm I use xterm, it looks like I dont have gnome-terminal installed |
| 05:25.37 | rue_mohr_ | hey, use xterm! |
| 05:25.38 | somiaj | n_blownapart: does gconf-editor give you the option to create new items? maybe just create it. |
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| 05:25.57 | n_blownapart | on a blog it said to open gconf-editor and go to apps -> gnome-terminal -> global and disable confirm_window_close. |
| 05:26.29 | somiaj | n_blownapart: yea I see that, maybe gnome-terminal reads that, but for some reason there is nothing there on your system. |
| 05:26.38 | somiaj | I know with files if it isn't there you can just create it |
| 05:26.58 | n_blownapart | couldn't I just use the cli to turn that off? |
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| 05:27.22 | somiaj | n_blownapart: read the manpage, it may mention ways to do that. |
| 05:27.46 | somiaj | https://superuser.com/questions/127293/how-do-i-add-a-new-folder-to-gconf-editor |
| 05:27.59 | somiaj | maybe use gconftool-2 and manually create the option |
| 05:28.02 | n_blownapart | thanks somiaj rue_mohr_ |
| 05:28.21 | n_blownapart | somiaj, no clue how to do that |
| 05:29.01 | somiaj | but I'm unsure where to go next, my guess is you can manaully create that key and it should be honored provided the jessie version supports that. I don't know why it is not there. |
| 05:29.36 | somiaj | Other option is as suggested, use another termainal emulator. But it seems gconftool-2 might be able to create that key for you. |
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| 05:30.01 | n_blownapart | sorry its above my head thanks kindly somiaj |
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| 05:30.21 | n_blownapart | so complicated |
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| 05:30.38 | somiaj | gconftool-2 --type=bool --set "/apps/gnome-terminal-global/confirm_window_close" "false" |
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| 05:30.56 | somiaj | I belive, provided the folders you go thorugh are called apps/gnome-terminal |
| 05:31.05 | somiaj | opps there is atypo, that should be gnome-terminal/global (not -) |
| 05:31.42 | rue_mohr_ | twiddles this thumbs waiting for the new kernel to compile |
| 05:32.12 | rue_mohr_ | n_blownapart you should be able to run that ok if you can get the terminal up |
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| 05:32.45 | rue_mohr_ | gconftool-2 --type=bool --set "/apps/gnome-terminal/global/confirm_window_close" "false" |
| 05:32.56 | n_blownapart | but I cannot get past apps in the config editor. there's all this weird stuff like blueman aisleriot etc |
| 05:33.05 | rue_mohr_ | nono |
| 05:33.11 | rue_mohr_ | thats a command line to do it |
| 05:33.12 | rue_mohr_ | ^^ |
| 05:33.36 | n_blownapart | I know, so will that create the files/ directories you mean/ |
| 05:33.37 | n_blownapart | ? |
| 05:33.47 | rue_mohr_ | try it :) |
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| 05:33.59 | rue_mohr_ | I dont have a gui right now |
| 05:34.17 | somiaj | n_blownapart: my understanding is it will create that key for you. You should be able to then find it using gconf-editor aftwards |
| 05:34.32 | n_blownapart | hold on thanks. checking that. |
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| 05:36.26 | n_blownapart | somiaj, rue_mohr_ thanks kindly that works. It even created the check box! |
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| 05:37.10 | rue_mohr_ | so, lets say I create a program that will list kernel modules in a ascii tree, what are the odds of finding a sponsor to make it a debian package? |
| 05:37.26 | rue_mohr_ | cause, last time I looked, everyone was maxed out |
| 05:38.09 | rue_mohr_ | would it make more sense to have my own reposity server and make/post a package to it? |
| 05:40.13 | rue_mohr_ | then i could post my other command line utils, like my generic calculator, and my electronics calcultors |
| 05:40.52 | rue_mohr_ | and my bvh player, the only player that can properly read a bch file |
| 05:40.58 | rue_mohr_ | bvh even |
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| 05:42.28 | rue_mohr_ | meh |
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| 06:54.58 | CrazyTux | hello, I am getting this error when I try to update. Please suggest a solution. https://hastebin.com/anefagufiz.pas |
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| 06:58.03 | CrazyTux | hello, I am getting this error when I try to update. Please suggest a solution. https://hastebin.com/anefagufiz.pas |
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| 07:01.00 | toruvinn | for a second there i thought you linked a pascal source... damn, nostalgia'd a bit. |
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| 07:01.19 | toruvinn | CrazyTux, also this looks more like an issue with their server. |
| 07:01.26 | toruvinn | CrazyTux, or actually not. i can connect there. did you retry? |
| 07:01.27 | CrazyTux | ok |
| 07:01.37 | toruvinn | CrazyTux, if it still returns you ECONNREF, check your firewall? |
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| 07:03.23 | CrazyTux | toruvinn, ok. Now I can update without that error. |
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| 07:03.33 | toruvinn | CrazyTux, so perhaps their server was down for a bit or something |
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| 07:03.43 | CrazyTux | as you said it could be an issue with their server. |
| 07:04.08 | CrazyTux | yes. |
| 07:04.21 | CrazyTux | thanks |
| 07:04.34 | toruvinn | you're welcome, i did absolutely nothing. ;^) |
| 07:04.40 | toruvinn | im great at doing absolutely nothing. |
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| 07:04.56 | toruvinn | i think, might be the world's #1 in doing absolutely nothing. |
| 07:05.12 | CrazyTux | you suggested a possible reason for that issue. |
| 07:05.15 | HisaoNakai | o/ |
| 07:06.10 | toruvinn | contrapunctus, why hello there. |
| 07:06.44 | contrapunctus | Debian Stretch. I followed the instructions here https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7179642/how-can-i-make-bash-tab-completion-behave-like-vim-tab-completion-and-cycle-thro and added "TAB: menu-complete" to my ~/.inputrc . But it still doesn't work :\ |
| 07:06.48 | toruvinn | CrazyTux, d-doesn't count! do not undermine my donothing-fu. |
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| 07:07.36 | toruvinn | contrapunctus, silly question, did you relogin? |
| 07:07.40 | CrazyTux | ok |
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| 07:08.00 | contrapunctus | toruvinn: I added that line months ago, so I've re-logged in and even restarted quite a few times since. |
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| 07:09.44 | toruvinn | contrapunctus, did you add TAB: menu-complete or bind TAB: menu-complete? |
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| 07:10.14 | toruvinn | contrapunctus, perhaps worth just trying int .bashrc with bind prefix? |
| 07:11.53 | toruvinn | contrapunctus, im frankly just guessing here a bit, but perhaps your bash doesnt even load inputrc? i'd strace it to see tbh. |
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| 07:13.22 | contrapunctus | toruvinn: I added a line containing the text "TAB: menu-complete" |
| 07:13.53 | contrapunctus | lemme try |
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| 07:15.25 | J-BBB_ | have anyone updated from jessie to scretch and get from roundcube the error config.inc.php was not found? |
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| 07:40.31 | jolt | J-BBB_: I'm running with latest roundcube from their own files so no, but I assume you can just try and find that file somewhere? I think debian saves it in /etc/roundcube, so it might just be a path mismatch perhaps? |
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| 07:43.24 | joegiampaoli | How smooth, easy and mostly SAFE is it to upgrade Debian from 8 to 9? Not a server, just desktop PC... |
| 07:43.30 | J-BBB_ | jolt, thx! I have fixed. I was a permission error |
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| 07:44.28 | jolt | ah |
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| 07:51.53 | tdn | I see messages like these from systemd every night: http://paste.yt/p6250.html "something" fails for user@500.service. I thought it was something referring to a uid that did not exist, however, uid 500 does exist and is the postgres user. How do I find the cause of these errors? Should I just ignore them? |
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| 08:01.09 | elliot007 | I'm trying to use kvm with virt-manager and getting this error https://imgur.com/a/dDwZD |
| 08:01.52 | elliot007 | I tried using the virt-install command from https://wiki.debian.org/KVM with obvious modifications and it worked. |
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| 08:13.38 | jolt | elliot007: You might want to run that program as root perhaps? |
| 08:14.00 | jolt | elliot007: you can test to run virsh via cli to see if you can create a VM throught that |
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| 08:15.59 | elliot007 | jolt: i'm getting same error with root as well, and i was successfully able to run the vm through virsh |
| 08:16.22 | elliot007 | without root |
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| 08:19.02 | jolt | elliot007: Then I have no idea :/ |
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| 08:20.48 | elliot007 | jolt: okay |
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| 08:22.11 | elliot007 | jolt: I rebooted the system and it worked don't know what was wrong |
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| 09:02.27 | Ashraf | hi |
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| 09:06.50 | neoclust | hi, i hav a question, i have to do a postinst script for my package. can i use commands like grep inside ? |
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| 09:14.02 | rudi_s | neoclust: You can, but keep it minimal. You should try to ommit anything you can also do in another way. |
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| 09:22.16 | neoclust | rudi_s: in fact as i use sytemd with Type=forking, i don't want the service to start when the package is install the first time, as it needs to be configurer to start correctly |
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| 09:22.42 | neoclust | rudi_s: so i wanted to check if the software is configurer and only start the service if this is OK |
| 09:22.49 | neoclust | if not, do nothing |
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| 09:23.33 | rudi_s | neoclust: Then check if the config file (which is not distributed) is present with e.g. ConditionFileNotEmpty |
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| 09:24.12 | rudi_s | *or ConditionPathExists= or any of the other Condition in man systemd.unit |
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| 09:26.46 | neoclust | rudi_s: in fact the file exist by default, just with "default" values :( |
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| 09:27.48 | rudi_s | neoclust: Then don't distribute the file at its default location, but e.g.. as conf.example |
| 09:28.41 | rudi_s | Oh, and maybe use AssertPathExists= (or any other Assert*) options as they will cause an error on unit start (not like Condition* which is silent). |
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| 09:30.26 | neoclust | rudi_s: yes good idea |
| 09:31.10 | rudi_s | neoclust: Now that I think about it, it's a bad idea. The Assert* won't work as the package will fail to install (because starting the process will fail). |
| 09:31.29 | neoclust | rudi_s: no but ConditionPathExists= may |
| 09:31.35 | neoclust | if it can check a file |
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| 09:31.39 | neoclust | i take a look to this |
| 09:31.41 | neoclust | deeper |
| 09:31.44 | rudi_s | Yes. |
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| 09:33.32 | rudi_s | neoclust: However you might also be able to use dh_systemd_start --no-start, but I'm not sure if that has any other side effects. |
| 09:33.44 | rudi_s | Or just provide a dummy config which does almost nothing and starts succesfully. |
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| 09:36.34 | _val_ | Hello everyone. While on Ubuntu 14.04LTS and 16.04LTS I'm able to run a script that uses #!/usr/bin/env bash. However the same thing doesn't work on Debian 7.11 and 8.8. So Does debian use dash as default? |
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| 09:37.48 | rudi_s | _val_: It does, but that shouldn't affect the script with this shebang. |
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| 09:52.27 | ben25 | hello i would like to come back to php 5.6 on stretch |
| 09:52.43 | ben25 | so i added jessie to the source list |
| 09:52.52 | ben25 | sources even |
| 09:53.01 | _val_ | rudi_s: I understand but the env searches for the $PATH. Probably bash isn't there on Debian at all. I can't really test it right now but.. I suspect it's just a problem with dash |
| 09:53.07 | ben25 | and then what? |
| 09:53.13 | rudi_s | ben25: Then stop. |
| 09:53.17 | ben25 | lol |
| 09:53.20 | _val_ | I am not even sure if bash is installed on debian |
| 09:53.38 | ben25 | should i pin something? |
| 09:53.42 | rudi_s | valerius: bash is there. It's not a problem with dash, because it's not run at all. |
| 09:54.24 | rudi_s | ben25: php5.6 is not supported on Stretch (and gets no security support) so don't try to mix them. If you really need to use it, use a VM/container with a Jessie which still has security support for a while. |
| 09:54.29 | rudi_s | _val_: bash is there. It's not a problem with dash, because it's not run at all. |
| 09:54.40 | rudi_s | valerius: Sorry, tab completion fail. |
| 09:55.08 | ben25 | rudi_s, do you have a source on that because i would need it if it exists? |
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| 09:56.01 | _val_ | rudi_s: Ok, I can't explain why the script works on ubuntu then |
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| 09:56.25 | rudi_s | ben25: Source? What kind of source do you need? The package is not in Debian stretch so there's no security support. And Jessie has it (and security support) for a while: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS |
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| 09:57.39 | ben25 | if it has security support on jessie, it has security support |
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| 09:58.11 | rudi_s | (Note that TLS-Support is less complete than usual security support, but jessie is official supported until June 2018, LTS since 2020) |
| 09:58.47 | rudi_s | ben25: In a way, yes. Still mixing distributions is a bad idea. |
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| 09:59.09 | rudi_s | (If you really have to mix the, don't forget to add the jessie-security entries in apt/sources.list.) |
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| 09:59.51 | ben25 | so anyway, i was trying to pin over 9000^w er 1000 and apparently i couldn't get the right line because it still apt-cache policy candidat to 7.0 |
| 10:00.18 | ben25 | rudi_s, i did |
| 10:00.57 | rudi_s | ben25: What's wrong with a jessie system which will work properly? |
| 10:01.10 | rudi_s | (Or migrating the PHP to a sane and supported version?) |
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| 10:01.13 | freezer | hi |
| 10:01.26 | ben25 | i have an old app that is not compatible with php7 |
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| 10:01.34 | ben25 | oh |
| 10:01.36 | ben25 | er |
| 10:01.45 | freezer | any clue why a script runs fine outside of crontab, but being triggered by crontab skips like the last step of it? |
| 10:01.46 | ben25 | well how should i do then? |
| 10:01.52 | ben25 | no pinning? |
| 10:02.09 | rudi_s | ben25: You should install a Jessie and be done with it. |
| 10:02.22 | ben25 | .. ah i wish actually |
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| 10:07.35 | jim | what's holding you back? |
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| 10:09.02 | petn-randall | freezer: in 99% of the cases it's due to missing $PATH, many environment variables are not set by cron, but only in your login shell. |
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| 10:13.40 | rudi_s | _val_: What's the error message? |
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| 10:15.09 | _val_ | rudi_s: I was discussing this in bash as well. My script is written for bash and not dash/sh. I am forcing the script to use bash as in: bash myscript firstparam |
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| 10:15.25 | _val_ | I can't test it right now but might be able later today. |
| 10:16.11 | freezer | petn-randall, even if the script has #!/bin/bash at the top? |
| 10:16.11 | _val_ | My understanding is that debian falls back into running sh instead and failing to run the script. I can't confirm that right now but it seems obvious |
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| 10:16.48 | rudi_s | _val_: Try and report the result. - I doubt that very much, if the shebang is as you said #!/usr/bin/env bash and the script is not started with sh /path/to/you/script. |
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| 10:17.34 | rudi_s | If it is started with sh path/to/script then it will fail in the way you described. Then fix the caller to execute the script itself. |
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| 10:18.07 | Ticho | or trick them into using bash with "alias sh=bash" in their login profile :) |
| 10:18.09 | rudi_s | freezer: "the last step"? Try running it with set -x (add it at the top after the shebang). |
| 10:18.17 | rudi_s | Ticho: ... |
| 10:18.27 | _val_ | rudi_s: well I'm telling the machine to run the script using bash as in: bash myscript firstarg. |
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| 10:19.15 | rudi_s | _val_: Then what you describe won't happen on a stock debian (unless it was modified in very stupid ways like linking bash to sh or whatever). bash is always bash on a Debian system. |
| 10:19.35 | rudi_s | Debian only "changes" what sh points to, which is dash per default. |
| 10:20.02 | _val_ | Well this is much complicated than as I'm describing it. For example: ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no root@remotehost bash < <(printf 'bash scriptn %q\n' 'password$$') |
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| 10:23.16 | rudi_s | _val_: (Passing passwords on the command line sounds like a bad idea). But still, if you write bash, the bash will be used (and not dash). |
| 10:23.38 | _val_ | rudi_s: I'm going to try and reproduce this. Thanks for your time! |
| 10:24.08 | rudi_s | np, please tell how it works. I'm curious about the cause of this issue. |
| 10:24.13 | ben25 | so is there a pinning expert in the room |
| 10:24.17 | ben25 | ? |
| 10:24.46 | ben25 | or someone who have a nice doc, the wiki is lower than meh |
| 10:25.26 | mirk0 | what's the name of freetype font library package? |
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| 10:26.00 | bazhang | ben25, apt pinning? |
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| 10:26.21 | _val_ | rudi_s: sure I will. |
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| 10:31.41 | freezer | argh |
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| 10:31.55 | freezer | ya it couldn't find the path to s3cmd |
| 10:31.59 | petn-randall | freezer: yes |
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| 10:38.22 | ben25 | ok there is no php package in jessie so my pinning rule wouldn't work, obviously |
| 10:38.56 | bazhang | ,v php5 |
| 10:38.58 | judd | Package: php5 on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u11; jessie: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1 |
| 10:39.06 | bazhang | yeah there is |
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| 10:41.08 | petn-randall | ben25: As has already been said, mixing releases is not supported. If you have an old piece of PHP software that doesn't work with PHP7, install jessie. Just don't mix jessie/stretch, that will just break a lot of things and cause head aches. |
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| 10:42.04 | ben25 | come on it's just php |
| 10:42.23 | petn-randall | ben25: What does that have to do with my statement? |
| 10:42.43 | ben25 | bazlang php not php5 |
| 10:43.22 | ben25 | petn-randall, well ", that will just break a lot of things and cause head aches." seems exagerated for just php |
| 10:43.37 | petn-randall | !frankendebian |
| 10:43.37 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 10:44.12 | ben25 | yeah well, you exagerating |
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| 10:44.40 | bazhang | bazhang, not bazlang ben25 |
| 10:44.51 | ben25 | plus my point here was exaclty not to do frankendebian, but have some help on just pinning one package |
| 10:44.54 | bazhang | and mixing repos is a super bad idea |
| 10:45.13 | petn-randall | ben25: I guess you didn't read the factoid completely then? |
| 10:45.40 | ben25 | what factoid |
| 10:45.41 | petn-randall | ben25: Feel free to ignore advice from people who've learnt it the hard way not to mix releases. |
| 10:45.55 | petn-randall | ben25: Then frankendebian factoid. |
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| 10:46.00 | petn-randall | s/Then/The/ |
| 10:46.00 | ben25 | i am not ignoring, i will advise my supervisor |
| 10:46.22 | ben25 | so far my supervisor told me to switch to stretch |
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| 10:47.23 | petn-randall | ben25: From what? |
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| 10:47.39 | freezer | potato |
| 10:48.37 | AndreasLutro | ben25: it's not "just php", jessie's php and its dependencies come with lots of binary blobs that may or may not work with stretch's shared libraries, libc, and so on |
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| 10:49.11 | AndreasLutro | if you need php5 support on stretch I'd recommend compile and package php yourself, or look into containerisation |
| 10:50.07 | ben25 | we'll see... |
| 10:50.09 | petn-randall | ... or simply use jessie, which is still supported until 2020. |
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| 11:10.32 | mirk0 | I need these two libraries, but I can't find packages for them, can you help? https://paste.debian.net/985682/ |
| 11:11.56 | mirk0 | sorry, just FreeType font library |
| 11:12.18 | ksk | mirk0: https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=freetype |
| 11:12.35 | ksk | or rather https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libfreetype6 |
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| 11:13.33 | mirk0 | ksk: I have it installed and I get the same error message |
| 11:14.17 | mirk0 | I mean libfreetype6 |
| 11:14.24 | msl09 | are you using stretch? |
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| 11:15.26 | mirk0 | msl09: not sure, what it is? |
| 11:16.19 | msl09 | are you using debian testing or debian stable? |
| 11:16.42 | mirk0 | msl09: stable |
| 11:16.50 | msl09 | ok |
| 11:17.02 | msl09 | where are you trying to install wine from? |
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| 11:17.41 | mirk0 | msl09: it's a game, I have a script and wine folder, the script uses wine from there. |
| 11:17.55 | msl09 | does the game bundle wine? |
| 11:18.18 | msl09 | or are you running a windows game with wine? |
| 11:18.42 | mirk0 | msl09: yes, it's bundle |
| 11:19.42 | mirk0 | should work 100%, but I'm missing libncurses.so.5 and FreeType Font library |
| 11:19.45 | mirk0 | msl09: ^ |
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| 11:23.05 | ksk | so it does not work a 100% ;) |
| 11:23.05 | mirk0 | I have libncurses5 and libfreetype6 installed and still get those errors |
| 11:23.22 | ksk | do a strace, look where wine looks for it, symlink it. dirty as hell, but can work. |
| 11:25.09 | msl09 | yeah |
| 11:25.22 | msl09 | or you could change the LD search path |
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| 11:25.41 | msl09 | I have seldomly been able to make it work :p |
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| 11:27.46 | mirk0 | I needed i386 packages, it works! :) |
| 11:28.01 | mirk0 | thanks msl09 and ksk |
| 11:28.07 | rephlexie | what game? |
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| 11:28.18 | mirk0 | rephlexie: far cry 1 |
| 11:28.27 | rephlexie | nice! have fun man |
| 11:28.34 | ben25 | so you guys suck, my supervisor knows best and he's right |
| 11:28.37 | mirk0 | rephlexie: thanks ;) |
| 11:29.22 | ben25 | just need to install php5 (and modules), do the a2dismod and a2enmod and that's it |
| 11:30.05 | msl09 | >so you guys suck |
| 11:30.16 | msl09 | we never claimed otherwise :D |
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| 11:35.05 | vlt | We suck. |
| 11:35.17 | gpunk | I dont |
| 11:35.19 | gpunk | lol |
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| 11:39.06 | ksk | and you do not using php5? I doubt that :) |
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| 11:48.00 | JyZyXEL | i've started just automatically building and installing the mainline stable kernel for my stable debian desktop, it works great :P |
| 11:49.04 | sypher | I give it a week, generously, before he's back here asking for help with php5 on stretch. |
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| 12:01.17 | tdn | I see messages like these from systemd every night: http://paste.yt/p6250.html "something" fails for user@500.service. I thought it was something referring to a uid that did not exist, however, uid 500 does exist and is the postgres user. How do I find the cause of these errors? Should I just ignore them? |
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| 12:04.43 | petn-randall | tdn: Can you pull this info: "systemctl status user@500.service" and "journaltctl -u user@500.service"? |
| 12:05.00 | petn-randall | My first guess is some cron job that fails to work. |
| 12:05.54 | tdn | petn-randall, http://paste.yt/p6251.html |
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| 12:06.30 | tdn | petn-randall, the journalctl produces a lot of output |
| 12:06.32 | DotHack | hi all.. i have a maybe strange questoin... I have this set of files in a dir. now i would like to create some mount or virtual dir structure based on the contents of those files (with grep i can get some info from the file for genereating the new structure) is this even possible? |
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| 12:16.08 | petn-randall | DotHack: Can you go more into detail? I'm not sure what you're asking for. |
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| 12:16.51 | RoyK | DotHack: what do you mean by the content? I've written this for distributing files based on creation date, including exif data https://github.com/rkarlsba/datedist |
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| 12:17.21 | petn-randall | tdn: Can you show an excerpt? I'm guessing you changed the pg_*.conf and the user postgres can't log in anymore. (wild guess) |
| 12:17.24 | RoyK | perhaps you can reuse something there |
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| 12:18.40 | DotHack | petn-randall: this dir contains a lots of file with but i would like to have some ability to make a dir structure according to the contents of thos file. example, there is a customer number in the file, i would like to mike a subdir with customernumber and the files with the customernumber as content in it, |
| 12:18.55 | DotHack | but i do not want to store the file twice so it has to be virtual |
| 12:20.32 | gpunk | DotHack you know ln -s ? |
| 12:21.08 | DotHack | gpunk: yes |
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| 12:23.41 | DotHack | maybe i can tag the files somehow and use these tags for a structure |
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| 12:39.56 | Tohen | hello |
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| 12:41.12 | Tohen | how do i write the MBR of my hd ? i used testdisk to recover lost partitions,plus wrote the mbr from it ...but the previous install doesnt boot |
| 12:41.42 | Tohen | perhaps it was bcoz the previous debian install was assigned a logical unit,and non bootable |
| 12:42.28 | Tohen | how do i create a new partition(primary and bootable) and install grub inside it? i tried fdisk |
| 12:43.03 | digdilem | DotHack, my feeling is that would need some bespoke (but fairly simple) scripting in the language of your choice. |
| 12:43.08 | DotHack | Tohen: you are recovering? please be very carefull.. |
| 12:43.12 | Tohen | but after i created a new partition in fdisk and wrote the changes,another fdisk -l showed only tht partition and none else |
| 12:43.28 | Tohen | not even the previous parttions which i recovered |
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| 12:43.51 | Tohen | im a beginner at partitioning and recovering data |
| 12:43.54 | Tohen | pls help me |
| 12:44.02 | DotHack | Tohen: you are one step away of losing your data |
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| 12:44.31 | Tohen | pls help |
| 12:44.56 | DotHack | digdilem: yea i thing i wil use some EA to tags my files with some data and trie to do something with that |
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| 12:45.29 | Tohen | i tried e2fsck on all my partitions |
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| 12:45.53 | Tohen | all are ok,just the one on the front(/dev/sda1) is a bit wacky |
| 12:46.09 | DotHack | Tohen: fdisk doesnt show all your partitiions anymore? |
| 12:46.17 | Tohen | DotHack: it does |
| 12:46.53 | Tohen | but i want to create a new partition and make it primary and install grub in it,but which when i do,the rest of the partitions disappear |
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| 12:47.11 | Tohen | i mean after i create a new partition and write the changes in fdisk,tht is |
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| 12:49.11 | Tohen | anyone?? |
| 12:49.18 | digdilem | fwiw, I prefer cfdisk for usability, but they all have the ability to destroy your data very easily if you get it wrong |
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| 12:49.55 | digdilem | if the disk isn't behaving as you expect and you're confident you did it right, don't rule out the possibility the disk itself is misbehaving |
| 12:50.06 | Tohen | can anyone guide me to create a new partition from cli,im used to gparted |
| 12:50.14 | digdilem | and, y;know, make sure you're actually working on the right disk |
| 12:50.44 | Tohen | i checked it on the debian installer,only one partition is shown after fdisk |
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| 12:51.11 | Tohen | theres only one disk in my laptop T_T |
| 12:51.58 | tw | you're trying to install recovery from the same disk you're recovering? |
| 12:52.07 | tw | s/from/to/ |
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| 12:53.07 | Nawab | tw im on another usb |
| 12:53.07 | tw | use a livecd to perform recovery of your files. If at all possible, use the livecd to back up the entire disk to an external drive like a large USB disk, then perform recovery on a copy of the hdd image. |
| 12:53.21 | Nawab | its a new install :3 |
| 12:53.30 | tw | And you're done with recovery? |
| 12:53.50 | Nawab | i hav used testdisk and found all the old partitions |
| 12:54.06 | Nawab | i just want to create a new partition...but i dont know how to use fdisk |
| 12:54.21 | tw | I mean you're done backing up all the files you need because you're very likely going to destroy them doing this. |
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| 12:54.43 | Nawab | i dont hav enough storage space to back them up T_T |
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| 12:55.15 | Nawab | just one 1tb hd,but thts full to the brim |
| 12:55.29 | _val_ | rudi_s: It wasn't the script at all. The public key of the machine that was supposed to run the script on the remote host wasn't available on the remote host |
| 12:55.48 | _val_ | script never ran and there was never an ssh connection established. |
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| 12:56.59 | Nawab | anyways i could like to continue with the process |
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| 12:57.55 | tw | You have to get the offsets from the current partition table and make new partitions in exactly the same places in the order you want. |
| 12:58.20 | Nawab | tw: is this to make the new mbr? |
| 12:58.50 | tw | If you need to install a new MBR, you have to run something like grub-install after you have a grub. |
| 12:59.32 | Nawab | well,when i boot up from the hd,it shows nothing but some weird alphanumeric chars |
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| 13:00.05 | Nawab | i want to make a new partition at the front of the hd(say 750M) and make it primary and bootable |
| 13:00.38 | Nawab | also i want to update the mbr |
| 13:00.40 | donofrio | how granular is sudoers, like can I enable "service cron start" (the cron I need) but would like not all services to be controllable from non-privileged account? |
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| 13:00.55 | Nawab | the rest like update and install grub i can do |
| 13:01.29 | ksk | donofrio: I would think so, yes. for example I added apt-get upgrade some time ago but that does not mean I can call dist-upgrade or whatnot |
| 13:02.24 | Nawab | tw: first can you help me create a new partition? pls |
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| 13:02.47 | donofrio | ksk, do you have sample like how you did apt-get upgrade |
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| 13:04.34 | tw | Nawab: Is there another partition at the front of the disk? Do you have to move another one out of the way? |
| 13:04.42 | dubcl | Good morning guys |
| 13:04.46 | Nawab | tw no |
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| 13:04.57 | Nawab | the first few gbs are free space |
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| 13:05.26 | Nawab | im installing pastebinit,wait lemme paste the partition table |
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| 13:07.50 | Nawab | https://paste.debian.net/985703 |
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| 13:09.33 | gspr | Hey. I'm at a loss of how to begin narrowing down a bug I'd like to report. I have a laptop with hybrid graphics, and often use an ACPI command (cf. https://hybrid-graphics-linux.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=ACPI_calls) to power down the nvidia card (saves battery). This works fine. However, if I do power down that card, running any OpenMPI program (entirely non-graphical, also with X not running) |
| 13:09.39 | gspr | Even as an unprivileged user. |
| 13:09.41 | gspr | completely deadlocks my system. |
| 13:09.44 | ksk | donofrio: sorry, reading the interwebs I come to the conclusion sudo only limits the binary called. you could however write a bash wrapper skript, which then can be called via sudo. beware of the security implications (attack vector bash) |
| 13:09.50 | gspr | Would you think this is a kernel bug? |
| 13:10.27 | gspr | (the system is otherwise entirely stable and hasn't acted incorrectly in any other setting) |
| 13:10.54 | ksk | that does sound like a bug to me gspr. (I never run linux desktop, so I dont know anything about it) |
| 13:11.00 | donofrio | ksk, but wait how did you restrict dist-upgrade? |
| 13:12.20 | Nawab | tw: ? |
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| 13:13.49 | Nawab | nnnnn/window 4 |
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| 13:14.07 | tw | Nawab: what's the problem, you already have appropriate partitions set up. |
| 13:14.19 | tw | do you just want to change sda2 to bootable? |
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| 13:15.38 | teraflops | gspr: optimus? |
| 13:15.44 | rudi_s | _val_: Ah, thanks for letting us know. |
| 13:15.49 | Nawab | tw: yes |
| 13:16.00 | Nawab | also install grub and update it |
| 13:16.08 | Nawab | and make it primary too |
| 13:16.26 | Nawab | i didnt notice i had it setup correctly |
| 13:16.29 | tw | toggle bootable with a. |
| 13:16.33 | Nawab | ok |
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| 13:17.11 | Nawab | tw: which command do i type a in? |
| 13:17.17 | tw | it's in fdisk |
| 13:17.19 | gspr | teraflops: That's the nvidia name for hybrid graphics, right? |
| 13:17.19 | tw | the command is a |
| 13:17.39 | gspr | teraflops: I don't have the proprietary nvidia drivers installed, and simply shut down the nvidia card with the acpi command. |
| 13:17.48 | teraflops | gspr: nvidia+Intel gpu |
| 13:17.52 | gspr | teraflops: Correct |
| 13:17.53 | teraflops | laptop |
| 13:17.56 | gspr | yup |
| 13:18.00 | Nawab | tw: can you give me full command ? |
| 13:18.10 | Nawab | sorry for my asking though |
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| 13:18.20 | tw | you've already run fdisk to get the output you have. |
| 13:18.30 | Nawab | yes |
| 13:18.34 | teraflops | gspr: then stop using acpi and use bbswitch |
| 13:18.42 | tw | if you type 'a' in fdisk, it walks you through a series of questions. |
| 13:18.48 | Nawab | oh |
| 13:18.51 | Nawab | ok |
| 13:19.38 | gspr | teraflops: OK, I'll try. But I do suspect it just does the same thing under the hood... |
| 13:19.50 | Nawab | tw: how do i make it primary? |
| 13:19.55 | teraflops | shrugs |
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| 13:24.34 | tw | Nawab: it's already primary. |
| 13:24.54 | tw | If it wasn't, you couldn't make it primary if you wanted to. |
| 13:25.36 | tw | (not entirely correct, but close enough for this) |
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| 13:29.10 | HyP3r | hello, I have recently updated a lot of debian wheezy machines to debian jessie. I followed this manual: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.de.html |
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| 13:30.03 | HyP3r | Now I wanted to install some systemd-units on one server and detected that one of this server does not startup with systemd, it still uses sys-v. Why? |
| 13:30.15 | ksk | donofrio: I obviously lied to you in my first post. you would have to write a wrapper script to archieve that. |
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| 13:30.59 | HyP3r | - /sbin/init --version: init (upstart 1.11) |
| 13:31.06 | HyP3r | cat /etc/debian_version: 8.9 |
| 13:31.40 | donofrio | ksk, lol tnx though |
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| 13:33.19 | HyP3r | I want to use systemd to start my vpnc connection. I found a nice systemd-unit template. |
| 13:33.28 | HyP3r | Is it safe to switch to systemd with https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_and_Testing ? |
| 13:33.50 | HyP3r | The problem is that this is not my server which is standing under my table, its a vps server, and I don't have terminal access or something |
| 13:34.03 | HyP3r | I can't do this: https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Configuring_for_testing |
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| 13:37.30 | ksk | HyP3r: make a backup. your hoster sure has the option to install a fresh image, no? |
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| 13:37.56 | ksk | you would then have to give it a try, in general systemd does work in most of the Containers. |
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| 13:38.24 | ksk | or, all of the state of art container solutions. |
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| 13:38.55 | HyP3r | ksk: I can restore the backup of yesterday and can reinstall the server yes |
| 13:39.00 | HyP3r | ksk: ok I'll try :) |
| 13:39.23 | ksk | mostly it should just be "install systemd" (which removes sys-v" and a reboot. dont have to worry about kernel thingys in a CT. |
| 13:39.55 | tdn | petn-randall, I can log in as postgres. I can paste some of the lines. One moment. |
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| 13:40.44 | HyP3r | ksk: I never did such switch, thats the reason why I'm so afraid ;) |
| 13:41.01 | tdn | petn-randall, http://paste.yt/p6252.html |
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| 13:45.11 | HyP3r | Failed to talk to shutdownd, proceeding with immediate shutdown <- |
| 13:45.15 | HyP3r | I can't restart |
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| 13:50.57 | HyP3r | This helped: https://serverfault.com/a/708772 |
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| 13:53.10 | HyP3r | ksk: I did now reboot -f and now the server responds now anymore :( |
| 13:54.20 | petn-randall | tdn: I don't have access to my pg server, I'd dig around and find out what that task does. |
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| 13:56.04 | HyP3r | Ok... now it's reachable again. (I restarted the machine once again) |
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| 13:58.35 | toresbe | Hey, does anyone know who deals with alioth.debian.org? It's just that I was involved in the debian-video project a long time ago, we did some software, and a mailing list was set up |
| 13:58.58 | toresbe | and now at regular intervals I get a request to moderate the same six spam e-mails from 2009 |
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| 13:59.22 | toresbe | That mailing list would be dvswitch-commits, fwiw. |
| 14:00.16 | ksk | Tell toresbe about alioth |
| 14:00.20 | ksk | !tell toresbe about alioth |
| 14:00.51 | toresbe | ksk: merci |
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| 14:03.57 | themill | toresbe: alioth is going away on its own soon enough |
| 14:04.16 | themill | (LTNS!) |
| 14:04.43 | toresbe | oh wow, hi! :) |
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| 14:09.48 | donofrio | when I try using "donofrio ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/service" in the sudoers I get https://apaste.info/0slx how do I get ths pid file working? |
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| 14:14.47 | tdn | petn-randall, but what is the actual task? I cannot seem to find that. |
| 14:14.47 | somiaj | donofrio: why aren't you typing sudo before those commands? Also are you really using sysvinit? Why not just use systemctl, it allows normal users to start/stop services if they are in the correct group. |
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| 14:17.35 | donofrio | I'm WSL user setup using - https://apaste.info/7KUJ (daily driver photo at 1drv link at bottom) and I need crontab working so I've got a service that runs nssm that starts bash with -c startcron.sh that does this service cron start then runs top to keep bash open allowing pid 1 to be the service not the bash I'm running interactively. |
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| 14:18.52 | petn-randall | tdn: No idea, sorry :( |
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| 14:25.35 | donofrio | somiaj, opps old apaste https://apaste.info/xJnN |
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| 14:54.17 | donofrio | I almost have the services cron starting using sudoers update to allow me to run services but it's not hapy about something cause I get back "failed" to start stating "/var/run/crond.pid: Permission denied" I even tried to create the pid file and reown/grp it but that didn't help.... |
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| 15:01.36 | ksk | donofrio: did you read about using systemctl for that? |
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| 15:03.33 | donofrio | ksk, I have no systemctl, it's the "OS: Linux 4.4.0-43-Microsoft" that I'm running, no kernel, just usermode xfce4 runnig just things like this crontab that I need running....almost there ;) |
| 15:03.47 | donofrio | just bumping into this .pid file issue |
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| 15:04.53 | ksk | what do you want to archive? |
| 15:05.09 | sypher | donofrio: So, you're not actually running Debian, right? |
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| 15:05.15 | donofrio | services cron start to be started |
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| 15:05.53 | donofrio | sypher, I could do the switcher and change but no I'm ubuntu 17.04 currently (did you see my photo's of how this wsl rocks....) |
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| 15:06.10 | ksk | !tell donofrio about based on debian |
| 15:06.10 | sypher | donofrio: Then you're asking the wrong people for help. |
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| 15:06.38 | sypher | And I strongly suspect that Debian running in WSL would be out of scope here, too, given how mangled that virtualized environment is. |
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| 15:07.46 | donofrio | it's not virtual fwiw it's native ELF64 that pico converts from usermode kernel calls to hal and such.....(I believe, and thank you all for your help so far) |
| 15:07.58 | FinalX | there's a specific channel for Ubuntu for Windows |
| 15:08.06 | petn-randall | ... still not Debian though ... |
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| 15:08.20 | donofrio | FinalX, and it's a dead in there only one peroson talking out of the 11 in the channel |
| 15:08.30 | donofrio | petn-randall, understood |
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| 15:09.23 | FinalX | well, people here often do not use it.. and Ubuntu for Windows is different from Ubuntu, but Ubuntu is also different from Debian. |
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| 15:09.45 | FinalX | WSL doesn't do daemons (and no cron!) |
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| 15:10.41 | donofrio | FinalX, it does when you start bash with nssm and when you get "service cron start" then its started.... |
| 15:11.02 | FinalX | and the moment you close it, it's gone |
| 15:11.41 | donofrio | FinalX, except nssm is the w10 service control manager allowing me to start bash.exe as a system service |
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| 15:12.02 | donofrio | FinalX, then my bash that I run is starting xfce4 ;) |
| 15:12.02 | sypher | And NONE of this is on-topic. |
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| 15:12.19 | donofrio | sypher, gee ok |
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| 15:22.16 | Quatroking | anyone here with a Dymo Lablewriter 450? |
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| 15:23.09 | Quatroking | I'm trying to compile the official dymo cups driver but it keeps failing |
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| 15:23.29 | Quatroking | running debian stretchy |
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| 15:33.43 | at0m | dpkg: tell Quatroking about anyone |
| 15:34.11 | Quatroking | alright |
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| 15:36.18 | Quatroking | I'm trying to compile the linux driver for the Dymo Labelwriter 450 but it fails, giving me a ton of "x was not declared in this scope" errors: https://pastebin.com/2K4wuCxH |
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| 15:37.00 | Quatroking | And I don't know how to go further because the printer-driver-dymo driver isn't making it show up in cups either |
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| 15:42.57 | brw | looks like you have a bunch of deprecated function calls hanging around there |
| 15:42.58 | jhutchins_wk | Quatroking: It sounds like maybe your source code isn't meant for Linux. |
| 15:43.08 | brw | or maybe is not meant for modern linux |
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| 15:46.21 | shtrb | Is there a php website / framwork packing guidelines ? |
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| 15:46.48 | Quatroking | What's confusing me is that there are a ton of posts online compiling the same tarball on their rpi, ubuntu, etc. systems |
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| 15:47.08 | Quatroking | not even old posts either, stuff from a year ago |
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| 15:47.31 | petn-randall | shtrb: I'd ask in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net, it's the go-to spot to ask packaging questions. |
| 15:47.42 | shtrb | petn-randall thanks |
| 15:49.24 | spacebug^ | Quatroking: have you read the INSTALL and installed the packages and stuff it talks about? |
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| 15:49.35 | Quatroking | Yup, to the letter |
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| 15:50.26 | Quatroking | although.. how do i check my gcc version? |
| 15:50.45 | spacebug^ | gcc --version |
| 15:51.22 | Quatroking | okay so I'm using 6.3.0 whereas the INSTALL says that they used 3.3.5 and 4.0.1 (though it also says "recent C++ compiler") |
| 15:52.13 | brw | yeah, seems like that might have been used in an older linux version. Any version info you have? |
| 15:52.20 | brw | like on what version of linux this was really meant for? |
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| 15:53.21 | Quatroking | Not really: http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-label-sdk-and-cups-drivers-for-linux-dymo-label-sdk-cups-linux-p--1 |
| 15:53.55 | spacebug^ | The drivers were tested under the latest stable CUPS version 1.2. They work correctly with |
| 15:53.58 | spacebug^ | versions of CUPS 1.3.9. |
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| 15:54.26 | spacebug^ | from a pdf on thier site. Dated from 2006 to 2009 |
| 15:55.31 | brw | THat might be your issue right there. |
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| 15:55.44 | spacebug^ | Quatroking: https://www.freshports.org/print/dymo-cups-drivers/ "1.4.0_1 - Fix build with CUPS 2.2.x." |
| 15:56.00 | spacebug^ | seems they have some newer files there |
| 15:56.07 | Quatroking | oh sweet, let's try that |
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| 16:08.51 | E7E03 | https://www.armis.com/blueborne/ big if true (and seems to be true) |
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| 16:10.13 | brw | so is this just like the Broadcom driver exploit from BlackHat? |
| 16:11.10 | brw | jeez, not a lot of details in the video. lots of scary music tho |
| 16:11.42 | Quatroking | oh my god i am so stupid |
| 16:12.01 | Quatroking | of course the damn dymo isn't showing up after installing the dymo package from the repo |
| 16:12.04 | greycat | Video. Seriously? Don't they know people who are at work, where this actually matters, can't *hear* videos? |
| 16:12.13 | Quatroking | I haven't added the dymo yet to my debian VM |
| 16:12.29 | Quatroking | dies |
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| 16:13.57 | greycat | also got a beef with this notion that "almost every connected device" somehow applies to my things that have never used a blue tooth ever, whatever that is |
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| 16:14.23 | Sayona | Hello boys, I have Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u3 and I get error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.0.0: |
| 16:14.38 | shtrb | does blueborne mean we could at last pass borken auth in KDE ? |
| 16:14.39 | Sayona | What pkg I need to install? |
| 16:14.52 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 16:14.52 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:15.08 | Sayona | openssl |
| 16:15.12 | greycat | ,file libcrypto.so.1.0.0 |
| 16:15.18 | judd | No packages in stretch/amd64 were found with that file. |
| 16:15.23 | petn-randall | Sayona: You're missing quite elementary infos for us to answer this, try using the above factoid as guideline. |
| 16:15.42 | greycat | I'm guessing Sayona has downloaded a third party binary linked against some ancient libraries. |
| 16:16.01 | Sayona | uff |
| 16:16.03 | Sayona | yap |
| 16:16.18 | brw | greycat: Looks like they are focused on a particular packages and making some broad assumptions. Looks like a collection of issues, not just one. |
| 16:16.56 | brw | Also, they reference a vulnerability in iOS 9, which I suppose is an issue for legacy devices that cannot upgrade. |
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| 16:18.44 | petn-randall | Sayona: So ... what are you trying to run? |
| 16:18.57 | Sayona | A custom app |
| 16:19.00 | Sayona | and I get error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.1.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 16:19.22 | petn-randall | Sayona: What app? |
| 16:19.25 | greycat | Sayona: wheezy has this library, so you could install the package from wheezy. |
| 16:19.27 | Sayona | custom |
| 16:19.42 | greycat | Sayona: Or you could recompile it on your non-ancient system. |
| 16:19.58 | Sayona | let me try to fix it. |
| 16:20.00 | Sayona | :P |
| 16:20.16 | petn-randall | Sayona: Ask the creator of the "custom app" for support then. |
| 16:20.45 | Sayona | yes |
| 16:21.06 | jnr2820_ | Are you really running Debian 4.9? |
| 16:21.40 | RoyK | Sayona: libcrypto.so.1.0.2 is current in stretch - try to make a symlink |
| 16:21.52 | greycat | Or just install libssl1.0.0 from wheezy |
| 16:21.59 | RoyK | Sayona: what sort of software are you trying to install btw? |
| 16:22.20 | RoyK | must be something precompiled or an older version |
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| 16:23.38 | Sayona | let me try something :P |
| 16:23.51 | greycat | is "something" "installing libssl1.0.0 from wheezy"? |
| 16:24.21 | greycat | Oh hell, jessie has it too. You could do that instead. |
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| 16:24.42 | greycat | judd file libcrypto.so.1.0.0 --release jessie |
| 16:24.42 | jnr2820_ | Odds are your app was developed for a newer version of Linux and expects libraries that are too old or not present in 4.9 |
| 16:24.45 | judd | Search for libcrypto.so.1.0.0 in jessie/amd64: libssl1.0.0: usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.0.0 |
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| 16:28.44 | Sayona | ./Viewer: ./libcrypto.so.1.0.0: version `OPENSSL_1.0.0' not found (required by ./Viewer) |
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| 16:31.58 | Sayona | thanks |
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| 17:06.48 | tw | Sayona: openssl libraries are symbol-versioned down to the letter at the end. If you aren't using libssl1.0.0, you're going to get that error. You'll probably be able to get away with installing libssl1.0.0 directly, assuming it doesn't hose your libssl.so and libcrypto.so symlinks. |
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| 17:25.42 | Sayona | tw, thanks |
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| 17:44.38 | tdn | petn-randall, ok, thanks. |
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| 18:06.13 | hellyeah | debian didnt percieve bluetooth |
| 18:06.16 | hellyeah | can someone help me |
| 18:06.24 | hellyeah | i followed debian wiki about bluetooth |
| 18:06.49 | shtrb | hellyeah , is the service up and enabled ? |
| 18:07.04 | hellyeah | ye |
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| 18:07.09 | hellyeah | let me show you |
| 18:07.19 | shtrb | paste.debian.net , not here |
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| 18:10.07 | hellyeah | shtrb: http://paste.debian.net/985753/ |
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| 18:12.48 | anexit_ | hey all, I have roundcube installed and my sudo is not allow my apache user to run a command |
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| 18:13.46 | greycat | bot says roundcube is an IMAP client written in PHP.., not sure what that has to do with sudo |
| 18:14.23 | shtrb | you shall not run stuff with root |
| 18:14.38 | shtrb | hellyeah , any missing firmware ? |
| 18:14.55 | hellyeah | i just installed everything that wiki said to me |
| 18:15.01 | hellyeah | how can i ensure about that? |
| 18:15.19 | shtrb | look in dmesg if there is any messages about failed to load blabla |
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| 18:15.32 | greycat | I like to start with "dmesg | grep -i firmware" |
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| 18:17.28 | hellyeah | is it about bluetooth |
| 18:17.31 | hellyeah | [ 73.219251] blk_update_request: critical medium error, dev sr1, sector 61424 [ 73.219254] Buffer I/O error on dev sr1, logical block 7678, async page read |
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| 18:18.01 | shtrb | no , that sound like a bad cable or bad media in your CD |
| 18:18.10 | hellyeah | ah |
| 18:18.15 | greycat | sr1 is a CD/DVD |
| 18:18.33 | Waxhead | I just downloaded the latest debian buster alpha installer. It appears to start in UEFI only. Is there some way to get it to load non-uefi e.g. standard BIOS stuff. |
| 18:18.49 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 18:18.49 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 18:18.57 | hellyeah | shtrb: i have those lines about bluetooth http://dpaste.com/238CVJX |
| 18:19.02 | jelly | Waxhead: ask there if you get no answers here ^^ |
| 18:19.21 | Waxhead | jelly: will do - I'll head over right away just in case |
| 18:19.56 | jelly | "standard BIOS" is called "legacy" these days |
| 18:20.36 | shtrb | Waxhead , is your UEFI allow legacy mode/ non secure mode ? |
| 18:21.17 | KNERD | Any suggestions on getting Debian 8 to be able to use the proper resolution on an eMachines E181H monitor (18.5' wide screen) than the default 1024 x 768 and 800 x 600? |
| 18:21.46 | shtrb | hellyeah , why do you say debian have issues with your bluetooth ? |
| 18:22.01 | shtrb | everything looks ok , maybe it's an agent issue or something like that ? |
| 18:23.22 | hellyeah | i dont know what cause that |
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| 18:23.30 | hellyeah | i cannot get bluetooth working |
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| 18:24.06 | shtrb | what does that mean, what did you try and did not work |
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| 18:24.24 | hellyeah | i found |
| 18:24.25 | hellyeah | sorry |
| 18:24.34 | hellyeah | i have bluez |
| 18:24.39 | hellyeah | i just searched |
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| 19:25.50 | tesko | does anyone know how to configure fetchmail for mutt? fetchmailconf is broken |
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| 19:35.37 | petemc | tesko: why do you want to use fetchmail? |
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| 19:36.23 | tesko | petemc: because it used to work |
| 19:36.41 | tesko | now i get script warnings |
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| 19:38.52 | tesko | petemc: https://pastebin.com/AdnfmMv2 |
| 19:39.01 | shtrb | tesko , what stopped working for you ? |
| 19:39.49 | tesko | thats the output of fetchmailconf when i try to delete my email addresss |
| 19:39.55 | tesko | -s |
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| 19:41.04 | tesko | getmail doesnt work either |
| 19:41.50 | vktec | I think I saw a message in apt-listchanges a while back saying that it's now possible to re-enable the old TLSv1 ciphers in OpenSSL. Is this correct? If so, how do I do so? |
| 19:41.52 | jhutchins_wk | tesko: Where are you deleting your email address? |
| 19:42.09 | tesko | from the last screen |
| 19:42.18 | tesko | of fetchmailconf |
| 19:42.46 | jhutchins_wk | tesko: Why would you expect it to work if you delete your address? |
| 19:42.50 | tesko | popup doesnt like my email address as my username for yahoo |
| 19:43.16 | jhutchins_wk | tesko: Are you working with some kind of graphical took for fetchmail? |
| 19:43.24 | jhutchins_wk | s/took/tool/ |
| 19:43.25 | tesko | yes |
| 19:43.53 | jhutchins_wk | tesko: What you're getting is an illegal valuse for the name. Try putting quotes around it. |
| 19:45.14 | jhutchins_wk | tesko: Do you use the full address when you log in to yahoo directly? |
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| 19:53.28 | gumbee | if i have a server, how important is it to have an iptables firewall on it? what's the difference between leaving it without iptables vs with iptables? |
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| 19:54.18 | greycat | Like, near zero importance. |
| 19:54.29 | tesko | expert config froze |
| 19:54.30 | shtrb | like asking would you put a door at your house |
| 19:54.57 | tremon | the one leaves you in control of what connections are made to your server, the other leaves that control to the software you installed |
| 19:55.24 | gumbee | so say i have just an ssh server running on port 22 |
| 19:55.40 | gumbee | if someone tries to connect to port 23, will anything happen if there's no firewall? |
| 19:55.41 | shtrb | gumbee , you have many services listening and activating |
| 19:56.11 | shtrb | stuff you didn't expect could break your system (like crazy ntp services ) |
| 19:56.56 | gumbee | shtrb: i only have 2 services running |
| 19:57.07 | gumbee | i was following this article on setting up a personal vpn |
| 19:57.18 | gumbee | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/how-to-build-your-own-vpn-if-youre-rightfully-wary-of-commercial-options/ |
| 19:57.25 | greycat | iptables is not like putting a door on your house. Your house already has a door, with a lock. It's like putting a barbed wire fence around the house with the locked door. |
| 19:57.35 | gumbee | but one thing i found interesting was that he never mentioned anything about setting up a firewall |
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| 19:58.16 | tremon | iptables is more like a bouncer in front of your door |
| 19:58.33 | shtrb | greycat , we are in the era of systemd there is no doors, and there is some guy who says he know how to handle everything and welcome anyone in ( https://www.agwa.name/blog/post/how_to_crash_systemd_in_one_tweet ) |
| 19:58.36 | greycat | acceptable analogy |
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| 19:59.26 | petemc | more flexible than your average bouncer |
| 19:59.30 | gumbee | so based on that arstechnica article, were they mistaken to not ask people to set up iptables? |
| 19:59.31 | tremon | the bouncer can make decisions on who gets to knock on your, based on your instructions. Without it, anyone can come knocking :) |
| 19:59.33 | Zero_Chaos | are the flags to debuild documented anywhere? the manual gives examples like "debuild -i -us -uc -b" where literally not one of those switches is defined in the man page |
| 19:59.50 | greycat | also less bribe-able than most bouncers, one hopes |
| 20:00.35 | gumbee | what usually happens if someone "knocks" on the door and there is no service running? |
| 20:00.43 | petemc | tcp rst |
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| 20:00.53 | tremon | nothing happens, the connection is dropped |
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| 20:01.37 | shtrb | unless the frat guy called systemd manage to mess with iptables (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=665720) |
| 20:01.38 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/665720 in iptables-persistent (closed, help, patch, wheezy-ignore): «iptables-persistent: unusable with systemd»; severity: serious; opened: 2012-03-25; last modified: 2015-05-24. |
| 20:01.40 | gumbee | i see, so was the article re-miss? or was it ok? |
| 20:01.45 | tremon | the more interesting question is: who do you want to allow to knock on the doors where you have a service running |
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| 20:03.02 | petemc | gumbee: you dont need a firewall, especially if you arent an expect in configuring one |
| 20:03.20 | tremon | for vpn or ssh, a firewall isn't that high of a priority |
| 20:03.33 | tremon | since the services are (generally) well-secured |
| 20:03.39 | petemc | expect? expert |
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| 20:04.02 | easy_ref123 | in a system with 2 drives, if the bootable one has a GPT partition table, does the partition table of the 2nd drive matter? |
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| 20:04.23 | tremon | no |
| 20:04.40 | gumbee | petemc: im actually not too bad with iptables. i usually do it with all my servers, but i was just surprised that the author never mentioned setting up, so was just curious if i always had misconceptions on it |
| 20:04.40 | teraflops | easy_ref123: matter for what? |
| 20:05.05 | teraflops | being booted by the bootloader in EFI mode? |
| 20:05.24 | petemc | gumbee: what do you do with it? |
| 20:05.39 | petemc | on your servers.. |
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| 20:05.47 | easy_ref123 | EFI mode yes. I thought it strange to have /dev/sda (bootable) with a GPT table, and /dev/sdb with an MBR table |
| 20:05.52 | easy_ref123 | but if it doesn't matter, i will leave it. |
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| 20:06.33 | gumbee | petemc: ive only done the basic stuff, default drop for closed ports, but leave open incoming connections for ports that i want open |
| 20:06.54 | petemc | that sounds completely useless |
| 20:06.58 | gumbee | petemc: basically just modifying the iptables script on the wiki to what i need |
| 20:07.26 | gumbee | petemc: yah i figured lol, that's why i came here to ask :) |
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| 20:07.33 | petemc | cool beans |
| 20:07.35 | shtrb | gumbee , what is your threat model ? |
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| 20:08.07 | gumbee | shtrb: hmm just want to put in basic security stuff, so it isn't hacked by some random person |
| 20:08.32 | gumbee | im not some super expert, but i figure i can always just do the basics |
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| 20:09.32 | shtrb | is your server and client behind "secure" systems ? |
| 20:10.03 | shtrb | If your router has TR069 enabled , people can and will enter your network (it's not hacking because it's open) |
| 20:10.21 | petemc | wtf is TR069? |
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| 20:10.37 | gumbee | shtrb: i actually not sure, the server is just a vps on the cloud |
| 20:10.37 | shtrb | very nice feature to allow techsupport to enter your router |
| 20:10.43 | teraflops | you dont usually need a fw on linux unless youre running a bunch of services/testing stuff and you are in DMZ/public ip (opposite to nat at e.g home router) |
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| 20:14.13 | shtrb | petemc, TR069 (example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz0SNEFZ8h0 ) , and in addition default user/pass for support allow a remote support person to login into your network (think another ethernet cable is connected behind the router) |
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| 20:17.26 | petemc | shtrb: wikipedia says its http which isnt like another ethernet cable behind the router |
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| 20:17.38 | petemc | but, you cant always believe wikipedia |
| 20:18.50 | shtrb | petemc , ever wondered how some ISP know the mac address of all client behind your router or can open dumpcap to troubleshoot your network ? |
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| 20:19.02 | shtrb | wink wink |
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| 20:20.05 | petemc | any node on a network knows the mac address of the other nodes |
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| 20:21.14 | shtrb | support at ISP X ,can access to the mac address behind your router |
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| 20:21.39 | petemc | they can access the router, no? |
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| 20:22.20 | teraflops | they can access your fridge |
| 20:22.21 | shtrb | for that to work they need to have access inside your network (the ethernet cable analogy ) |
| 20:22.24 | teraflops | sadly |
| 20:22.30 | shtrb | that is only if it's LG |
| 20:22.33 | teraflops | xD |
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| 20:23.20 | shtrb | others have captha on their webui ,so you don't continue after the first page |
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| 20:28.29 | hellyeah | i need help about bluetooth |
| 20:28.37 | hellyeah | i did everything but that doesnt work |
| 20:28.42 | hellyeah | debian see my headphone |
| 20:28.47 | hellyeah | but i cannot connect that |
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| 20:29.13 | shtrb | pulseaudio ? |
| 20:29.28 | hellyeah | it was installed |
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| 20:29.49 | shtrb | is it listed ? |
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| 20:29.59 | shtrb | *the headset |
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| 20:30.14 | hellyeah | # apt-cache policy pulseaudio pulseaudio: Installed: 7.1-2~bpo8+1 |
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| 20:30.36 | shtrb | I mean , is your headset listed in pulseaudio (assuming that is what you are using ) |
| 20:30.59 | hellyeah | how can i check that? |
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| 20:32.53 | shtrb | in your DE , do you see something like "headset" under audio |
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| 20:33.43 | hellyeah | no |
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| 20:36.47 | easy_ref123 | problem running: |
| 20:36.50 | easy_ref123 | grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot --bootloader-id=grub |
| 20:36.54 | easy_ref123 | error: /boot doesn't look like an EFI partition |
| 20:36.58 | easy_ref123 | (it is) |
| 20:37.14 | greycat | (it should not be) |
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| 20:37.39 | greycat | /boot/efi may be one |
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| 20:44.43 | tesko | what else can i use to get mail to my ~/mail besides fetchmail and getmail |
| 20:45.23 | hellyeah | any help_? |
| 20:46.00 | greycat | because two solutions aren't enough? |
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| 20:47.24 | Sayona | Yay, I just install debian 8.9 and is frozen at login interface... |
| 20:48.03 | tesko | greycat: neither work for me |
| 20:48.21 | greycat | Then a third, fourth, fifth implementation will probably also fail. |
| 20:48.34 | nkuttler | !doesn't work |
| 20:48.34 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 20:48.37 | greycat | Better to spend your time figuring out how you failed to make the others work. |
| 20:48.48 | shtrb | hellyeah , sorry was out , you need to see if it paired,if listed , and if you can switch to it, I would start with wiki,debian.org/BluetoothUser/a2dp |
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| 20:49.14 | Bitcoiner69 | https://pastebin.com/raw/6Nrk6WSS how fix? |
| 20:49.15 | shtrb | tesko , why not working cli only ? |
| 20:49.30 | tesko | fetchmail gives me python errors and getmail just segfaults |
| 20:49.35 | tesko | cli? |
| 20:49.49 | shtrb | didn't you say you have some graphical interface for it ? |
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| 20:49.51 | greycat | Set up your local MTA of choice, whichever one you actually know how to configure and use. Then set up fetchmail to deliver your mail through it. |
| 20:50.18 | tesko | yes and thats how i get python errors |
| 20:50.49 | greycat | Last time I saw fetchmail, it was not written in python. |
| 20:51.45 | greycat | Tags: Implemented in: C, |
| 20:51.55 | greycat | according to https://packages.debian.org/stretch/fetchmail and this matches what I remember |
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| 20:52.43 | shtrb | does manual invoke something like fetchmail -v (don't just run it) work for you ? |
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| 20:53.20 | shtrb | either your config is broken or an issue with your graphical app |
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| 20:54.03 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: Apparently they're including a graphical "fetchmailconf" that sets up the .fetchmailrc for you. |
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| 20:55.51 | shtrb | a conf could look like poll server\n protocol IMAP\n port 143\n username "shtrb@server"\n password "xyz"\n is "localuser"\nmda "something .... "\n mimedecode\n keep |
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| 20:56.18 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: Don't need the linefeeds. |
| 20:56.31 | shtrb | thanks , didn't knew that :) |
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| 20:57.03 | jhutchins_wk | shtrb: I may be wrong about that, I don't have access to my file and I think it's multiline for each server. |
| 20:58.08 | Scrutinizer | Seems that Jim Zemlin is using a mac... That's kinda messed up. :-/ |
| 20:58.30 | shtrb | jhutchins_wk , I missed the ':' in my conf :-( |
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| 20:59.11 | easy_ref123 | if i've marked a partition bootable in fdisk, must i regenerate fstab? |
| 20:59.17 | towo-kvm | no |
| 20:59.29 | greycat | Debian does not care about partitions being marked "bootable" or not. |
| 20:59.47 | towo-kvm | but many bios firmwares do |
| 21:00.05 | greycat | in any case, fstab won't care |
| 21:00.10 | towo-kvm | they do not start anything, if there is no bootflag found |
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| 21:07.29 | tesko | shtrb still broken |
| 21:08.43 | tesko | now it says enter password for tesko@pop.mail.yahoo.com |
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| 21:09.04 | tesko | which isnt even close |
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| 21:10.58 | shtrb | the pop.mail.yahoo.com a correct url ? |
| 21:12.56 | tesko | for post office protocol |
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| 21:13.43 | shtrb | I think the username in you case should be "yourusername@yahoo.com" |
| 21:14.46 | shtrb | the poll address and username can have different server |
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| 21:16.27 | shtrb | Googling gave me http://www.taylorbyte.com/docs/wiki/fetchmailrc#yahoo-pop3-plus-pop-mail-yahoo-com |
| 21:16.27 | Zero_Chaos | are the flags to debuild documented anywhere? the manual gives examples like "debuild -i -us -uc -b" where literally not one of those switches is defined in the man page |
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| 21:18.23 | ChmEarl | Zero_Chaos, check the man page for dpkg-buildpackage |
| 21:19.01 | shtrb | Zero_Chaos , debuild is just a wrapper that passes control to other (buildpackae and sign) |
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| 21:20.04 | shtrb | -us and -uc no sign |
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| 21:22.16 | Zero_Chaos | ChmEarl: shtrb: either of you have a clue why debuild is building linux-image-4.12 but not linux-image-amd64 package by default? (and how to fix it?) |
| 21:22.29 | Zero_Chaos | this man page seems to suggest it would get built |
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| 21:23.22 | shtrb | Zero_Chaos , what do you mean it does not build by default ? |
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| 21:24.21 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: when I run debuild -us -uc in the linux source directory, it builds a bunch of .deb files, including linux-image-4.12.0-kali1-amd64_4.12.6-1kali6_amd64.deb but NOT the linux-image-amd64 package |
| 21:24.45 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: I'm assuming I'm doing something wrong, but I'm not sure what |
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| 21:25.11 | shtrb | I think the amd64 package is a meta package provided by something else |
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| 21:25.20 | ykchavan | Can not find /etc/lirc/hardware.conf in stretch. Is this expected behavior? |
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| 21:25.47 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: I thought that too, but no: Picking 'linux-latest' as source package instead of 'linux-image-amd64' |
| 21:26.00 | Gargoyle | Hi. |
| 21:26.20 | shtrb | Zero_Chaos , sudo apt-get install -d linux-image-amd64 pulls 4.12 for me |
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| 21:26.48 | somiaj | shtrb: "meta package provided by something else" -- sound slike you are confusing meta packages with virtual packages. |
| 21:26.59 | shtrb | somiaj you are correct |
| 21:27.01 | shtrb | sorry |
| 21:27.02 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: right, and I'm trying to build the deb from source, and linux-image-amd64 says it's source is from linux-latest which is what I'm using |
| 21:27.10 | somiaj | yes linux-image-amd64 is a meta package that will pull in the latest kernel for amd64 |
| 21:27.16 | Gargoyle | Anyone else running ASUS mobo (Ryzen7 + Hero VI)? Hitting a lot of google dead-ends with sound recording crackling and temp/fan sensors not working |
| 21:27.24 | Zero_Chaos | somiaj: right, but how to I rebiuld that meta package :-) |
| 21:28.22 | ChmEarl | fakeroot debian/rules build-indep |
| 21:28.30 | somiaj | Zero_Chaos: why is this source building packages that look like they are made for kali, are you really running kali linux and using one of their source packages. |
| 21:28.46 | somiaj | Zero_Chaos: I don't think debian packages will build things named linux-image-4.12.0-kali1-amd64_4.12.6-1kali6_amd64.deb |
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| 21:29.11 | ChmEarl | Zero_Chaos, ^^ try the build-indep rule |
| 21:29.12 | ykchavan | Also, I am not able to find package 'npm' on stretch. Is this expected as well? |
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| 21:29.18 | Zero_Chaos | ChmEarl: is there a way to instruct debuild/dpkg-buildpkg to do that? or run it seperate? |
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| 21:29.24 | somiaj | Gargoyle: attacke one problem at a time. First what is the sound card. |
| 21:29.48 | Zero_Chaos | somiaj: I am building a kali kernel, yes, from a debian chroot on a gentoo system :-) |
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| 21:29.55 | Gargoyle | somiaj, ALC 1220 |
| 21:30.20 | Gargoyle | Which falls under snd_hda_intel |
| 21:30.38 | somiaj | Zero_Chaos: then go ask the kali people about their source packages. We don't support them here. |
| 21:31.13 | somiaj | Gargoyle: have you tried to change the model that is used? |
| 21:31.21 | Zero_Chaos | somiaj: thanks for not making the door hit me in the ass on the way out, but many others were kind and professional, as I was. |
| 21:31.31 | Zero_Chaos | somiaj: glad you don't have a problem with me running this all on gentoo at least :-) |
| 21:31.55 | somiaj | Zero_Chaos: I'm just trying to point you to the proper place to support linux kali packages. They changed them and we may not know what changes were made. |
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| 21:32.16 | shtrb | Zero_Chaos , what ? |
| 21:32.39 | shtrb | sends cookies to everyone |
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| 21:33.11 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: it kinda looks like running debuild was the preferred way of building debian packages, so I'm curious if the wrapper has support for "doing this right" or if somehow every package on debian is built with debuild except the linux-image-amd64 packages. |
| 21:33.40 | Gargoyle | somiaj, I followed some instructions to try and find a match in /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz but no luck. |
| 21:33.56 | somiaj | Gargoyle: sometimes just try various models and see if that helps. |
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| 21:34.12 | Zero_Chaos | somiaj: I understand your point, but it seems my problem is more to do with my lack of understanding for the debian build tools which are not running as I expect. and since I'm using the debian build tools from debian, this seemed the place to ask. |
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| 21:34.59 | Gargoyle | somiaj, Is there a way to force a reload, or is it a reboot every time? |
| 21:35.07 | somiaj | Zero_Chaos: channel policy due to both social and technical issues is we don't support debian derivatives here. |
| 21:35.15 | somiaj | Gargoyle: use modprobe -r to remove the module, then load it again |
| 21:35.52 | Zero_Chaos | somiaj: again, I understand your point, but asking about debian build tools being used in debian seems on topic to me. We have also spent more lines debating the channel policy than anything else now. |
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| 21:36.19 | shtrb | Zero_Chaos , is your build system a standard debian ? |
| 21:36.32 | shtrb | and is your source package accuired from debian and not let say kali ? |
| 21:36.33 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: a standard debian chroot, but yes |
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| 21:36.48 | shtrb | where did you get the source package ? |
| 21:36.50 | Gargoyle | somiaj, It says it in use. |
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| 21:36.55 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: the source package is from kali, but the build system is debian. |
| 21:36.56 | shtrb | Kali should be involved somewhere |
| 21:37.01 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: indeed it is |
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| 21:37.15 | shtrb | kali can't be trusted here |
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| 21:37.28 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: I agree entirely, hence the debian system to build from |
| 21:37.50 | shtrb | so apt-get source linux-image-4.12 and debuild -i -uc -us |
| 21:38.09 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: and that will build linux-image-amd64? |
| 21:40.04 | shtrb | you can see that linux-image-amd64 is just a collection of debian control files to fetch other packages |
| 21:40.19 | shtrb | which is different from the actuall kernel (what you are asking to get ) |
| 21:40.48 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: negative, I know how to get the kernel, I'm asking how to build the linux-image-amd64 package. |
| 21:40.49 | shtrb | compare apt-get source linux-image-amd64 to linux-image-4.12.... |
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| 21:42.19 | shtrb | apt-get source **linux-image-amd64**, cd linux-latest-something , debuild -i -us -uc |
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| 21:43.09 | shtrb | also sudo apt-get build-dep linux-image-amd64 (to make sure you actually can build) |
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| 21:43.44 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: ugh, so it needs to be built separately, thanks! |
| 21:43.52 | somiaj | Zero_Chaos: but you aren't using the tools in debian, you are using them in kali with a kali source package. You should really be asking kali support about their process and building on their system. |
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| 21:44.07 | shtrb | but why would you do that with kali related packages ? |
| 21:44.23 | Zero_Chaos | somiaj: again, I am using tools in debian, ina full debian chroot, because like every other sane person, I don't trust kali |
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| 21:44.33 | Zero_Chaos | somiaj: I'm just using their source package |
| 21:44.34 | somiaj | Gargoyle: lsmod | grep <modulename>, you may have to remove any modules that depend on it. |
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| 21:44.50 | shtrb | Zero_Chaos, you get it from Kali for some reason , the question is WHY |
| 21:45.11 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: because I need to build a modified version of their modified kernel :-) |
| 21:45.11 | somiaj | Zero_Chaos: well I just ran debuild -us -uc on a debian soruce package and it produced the meta package as expected. linux-image-amd64_4.9+80~bpo8+1_amd64.deb |
| 21:45.30 | somiaj | the issue is not with debian or the debian build process, it is that kali has changed their kernel source packages. |
| 21:45.35 | shtrb | somiaj , why should it fail ? |
| 21:45.59 | Zero_Chaos | somiaj: yup, shtrb pointed out I was expecting the wrong thing, that meta package comes from a different set of sources and I failed to notice that. |
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| 21:47.02 | somiaj | In the future you should ask the makers of said source package about it, in this case kali. |
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| 21:47.20 | shtrb | Zero_Chaos , if you are using some modification on Kali kernel you can try to backport it to debian, otherwise something related to that package could be broken |
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| 21:47.55 | shtrb | their rules can be different , having rm -rf / --no-preserve-root or whatever |
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| 21:48.57 | shtrb | Just out of couriosity what does kali kernel have that is missing in debian ? |
| 21:49.29 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: in this case, my fairly dangerous patch |
| 21:49.49 | shtrb | why not apply it on debian's kernel and just use debian ? |
| 21:49.52 | shtrb | or publish it ? |
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| 21:50.13 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: I have published the patch, and like a dozen others just like it, but most people don't want it |
| 21:50.54 | shtrb | Is your goal to use said kernel with debian or with Kali ? |
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| 21:51.19 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: with kali, and that is not my choice, that is my employers choice |
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| 21:51.27 | shtrb | still hopes to get some nice patch sent to the BTS and maybe it will be applied if important enough to others |
| 21:51.42 | shtrb | In such case your build system MUST be kali |
| 21:52.35 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: the official kali kernels are built on debian, so I think I'm in good company doing it this way |
| 21:52.39 | shtrb | there is no gurntee that the current scripts existing on debian stable will be as needed for kali |
| 21:53.09 | shtrb | scripts or any other build tool |
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| 21:54.15 | shtrb | Who knows , maybe kali's debhelper sends tea and biscuits to the authors and you building it on debian remove that option |
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| 21:55.45 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: again, the official kali kernels show that they are built on debian. that could be a lie, but probably not |
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| 22:14.25 | Zero_Chaos | shtrb: somiaj: building from the right package fixed my issue. thanks for the help and pointing out my mistake. I appreciate the fact that you assisted despite my unusual setup. |
| 22:14.45 | Zero_Chaos | <smokebomb> |
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| 22:16.42 | tesko | i havent seen someone use gentoo in a while |
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