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| 00:02.37 | Trap-Chan | mxh- yeah that and the pc goes into a passive mode when the tv is turned off. |
| 00:03.12 | Trap-Chan | also having it switch to the right hdmi port when activity is detected. these are the features i like on my ps4 and directv. |
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| 00:04.28 | mxh- | Trap-Chan: Oh, my TV doesn't do that ever. I'll give it a go though, why not. Gimme 5-10 mins. :) |
| 00:05.56 | Trap-Chan | does your tv support CEC? if so and it's enabled the ps4 and/or directv should do those 3 things if you have them. |
| 00:06.12 | mxh- | Yes, it matche smy Switch's power settings perfectly |
| 00:06.39 | mxh- | And it did turn on, but as expected did not switch to right channel, but that's likely the TV's fault. |
| 00:07.34 | mxh- | I bet a proper DE would handle at least going into power saving better though - tech is obviously there |
| 00:07.51 | mxh- | For comparison, it does not turn on when a PS3 is connected. |
| 00:08.12 | Trap-Chan | yeah ps3 didn't support cec as i understand that was added in ps4. |
| 00:08.22 | Trap-Chan | sorta like the wii u not supporting it but you said switch does. |
| 00:08.50 | Trap-Chan | did you install anything special to get cec working or is it just out of the box? |
| 00:09.04 | mxh- | Not even close, I'm on a netinstall. |
| 00:09.31 | Trap-Chan | not sure what that means. |
| 00:09.51 | mxh- | Does not even come with graphic drivers |
| 00:09.57 | Trap-Chan | i would assume it means that you installed using internet but i don't see how tht would have a different outcome from installing by dvd. |
| 00:10.01 | mxh- | Most barebones Debian ISO. |
| 00:10.08 | mxh- | Think Arch, |
| 00:10.08 | Trap-Chan | ahh |
| 00:10.36 | Trap-Chan | so basically it gives you the bare minimum needed to use the computer and then you apt everything you want? |
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| 00:11.39 | Trap-Chan | btw fwiw the port switching taht i experience usually happens if i hit the menu button on directv or the guide button on ps4. |
| 00:12.11 | Trap-Chan | basically i can switch from watching tv to playing a game just by picking up my controller and pressing the guide button on it. |
| 00:12.31 | mxh- | Mine goes straight to HDM1 no matter that :) |
| 00:12.50 | mxh- | Yeah I got my chromecast in the HDMI1 slot for that reason |
| 00:15.26 | mxh- | Trap-Chan: Check out the various CEC libs for linux to make sure. It's likely solved by now |
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| 00:18.32 | Trap-Chan | how would i go about finding them? the closest i've gotten to getting a non specific package is to do *[guessed name]* |
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| 00:34.55 | tw | ,v libcec4 |
| 00:34.57 | judd | Package: libcec4 on amd64 -- sid: 4.0.1+dfsg1-1; stretch: 4.0.1+dfsg1-1; experimental: 4.0.2+dfsg1-1; buster-multimedia: 2:4.0.2-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 2:4.0.2-dmo1; stretch-multimedia: 2:4.0.2-dmo1 |
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| 00:36.16 | tw | but `apt-cache search cec | grep '^lib'` is probably a good choice. |
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| 01:40.37 | kalinou | bsr, |
| 01:41.09 | kalinou | j'ai un probleme avec mon pc sous Debian! |
| 01:41.27 | bazhang | kalinou, what issue |
| 01:41.31 | dvs | !fr |
| 01:41.31 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 01:41.37 | bazhang | kalinou, english please |
| 01:42.04 | kalinou | ok! |
| 01:42.54 | kalinou | i say, i have a problem with my pc! |
| 01:43.05 | bazhang | what problem |
| 01:43.36 | kalinou | i have install debian on my pc and now i can access my bluetooth! |
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| 01:43.56 | kalinou | Can you help me? |
| 01:44.53 | tesko | bluetooth eh |
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| 01:46.32 | kalinou | i can't acces my bluetooth, i want to say! |
| 01:46.57 | bazhang | kalinou, what sort of bluetooth device |
| 01:47.19 | bazhang | kalinou, is this a mic and headset for gaming |
| 01:48.58 | tesko | https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/how-to-send-sound-through-bluetooth-on-linux/ |
| 01:49.18 | kalinou | yes! |
| 01:50.06 | Trap-Chan | tw, thanx i'll try to remember that script. |
| 01:50.45 | kalinou | I have no driver on my debian! |
| 01:51.11 | tesko | what driver do you need? |
| 01:51.33 | tesko | can you apt update |
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| 01:52.05 | tesko | then apt upgrade |
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| 01:54.40 | xilcert | Hi, I seem to have issues when installing libc6:i386 on my Debian Sid (amd64). Log of trying to install here: https://pastebin.com/zUyyP1NR ; Any suggestions? |
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| 01:55.46 | kalinou | tesko for the bluetooth! |
| 01:56.59 | xilcert | basically, for my situation, it seems like libgcc1 breaks libgcc1:i386 (or the other way around); but I remember getting it working earlier; so is it an issue I should just wait for the package managers to resolve, or should I file a bug, or am I missing something that I could do to resolve it myself |
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| 02:00.47 | xilcert | seems like it is a versioning issue itself: libgcc6 is at 1:7.2.0-4 but the :i386 is at 1:7.2.0-5 :/ |
| 02:01.05 | xilcert | any suggestions? or should I just wait? |
| 02:01.19 | xilcert | (wait for package maintainers) |
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| 02:06.23 | Trap-Chan | hrm...this seems to say that libcec4 is already installed. guess i gotta figure out how to configure it. |
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| 03:44.44 | TheDabMaster | Why is sonic.net not listed in debian.org's mirror page? |
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| 03:45.59 | TheDabMaster | hello? |
| 03:46.51 | themill | ESP isn't a thing -- mirror operators have to let the project know that they are operating a mirror |
| 03:47.04 | themill | Some people also don't want to be listed as a public mirror |
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| 03:49.05 | TheDabMaster | so you're saying sonic.net is an official mirror; it's just a private mirror. |
| 03:49.31 | themill | that's not what I said at all |
| 03:49.54 | TheDabMaster | oh wait smh |
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| 03:51.19 | TheDabMaster | exit |
| 03:51.25 | TheDabMaster | oops |
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| 03:54.00 | Guest17917 | On #mysql also: trying to install mysql. It isn't uninstalling fully as far as I can tell, so reinstalling it doesn't work. When I try using the secure installation it complains that the file can't be found and it can't start the daemon |
| 03:58.59 | annadane | posting your full output would help instead of describing it in general terms |
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| 03:59.26 | annadane | if you're trying to install it in debian it's possibly more of a debian issue than an sql issue |
| 03:59.40 | annadane | !paste |
| 03:59.40 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 04:06.00 | annadane | @ Guest17917 |
| 04:06.07 | Guest17917 | Working on it |
| 04:06.14 | annadane | not sure if you're already getting help in that chan or not |
| 04:06.23 | Guest17917 | Thanks =) |
| 04:06.31 | Guest17917 | Putting everything I can think of in |
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| 04:06.45 | annadane | also if you could tell us how you're uninstalling it, and the output from that would be helpful as well |
| 04:07.07 | annadane | i can't promise to be very helpful but it's good information for those who do have a better idea |
| 04:07.14 | Guest17917 | K |
| 04:07.47 | annadane | ditto goes for the sql channel if nobody in here answers; it's important to give the maximum possible information |
| 04:08.31 | Guest17917 | Ok |
| 04:09.07 | annadane | though hang on, mysql was supposed to be replaced by mariadb |
| 04:09.11 | annadane | i just remembered that |
| 04:09.17 | Guest17917 | Yup |
| 04:09.24 | Guest17917 | It's automatically replaced |
| 04:09.30 | annadane | ah, gotcha |
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| 04:12.37 | Guest17917 | https://hastebin.com/woqeqivuwa.cs |
| 04:12.57 | Guest17917 | annadane ^ |
| 04:14.08 | annadane | i'm just trying to determine whether mysql is even in the stretch repository to start with |
| 04:14.28 | annadane | but anyway let me look at this |
| 04:14.37 | annadane | well, unless you had a jessie system |
| 04:14.43 | annadane | and it was then replaced by maria |
| 04:14.56 | vegenaise | anyone wanna suggest their fav game/s that my i7 sandybridge (2c/4t @ 2.7ghz) w/ intel hd 3000 could support? |
| 04:15.11 | Guest17917 | mysql-server is what I have installed |
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| 04:17.21 | annadane | "Sep 16 04:01:55 server systemd[13763]: mariadb.service: Failed at step EXEC spawning /usr/sbin/mysqld: No suc" seems to be the thing here |
| 04:17.25 | annadane | though the message got cut off |
| 04:17.32 | annadane | i assume it's "no such directory" |
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| 04:18.03 | jmcnaught | vegenaise: https://blends.debian.org/games/tasks/finest most of those should probably work |
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| 04:19.11 | annadane | i found this https://serverfault.com/questions/655538/failed-at-step-exec-spawning-usr-libexec-mariadb-prepare-db-dir |
| 04:19.13 | vegenaise | thanks jmcnaught :) |
| 04:19.42 | annadane | which of course is not the same error message |
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| 04:20.03 | annadane | but as the answer implies it may be the configuration file pointing to the wrong directory |
| 04:20.12 | jmcnaught | Guest17917: manually deleting files installed by packages is not a good idea. the mysql-server package is only a metapackage that depends on other packages. What is mysql_secure_installation? |
| 04:20.21 | annadane | or rather, script object |
| 04:20.36 | annadane | and yes, i did think of that; it's described as a transitional package |
| 04:20.42 | annadane | i just wasn't sure whether that would factor into it |
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| 04:22.16 | jmcnaught | at this point it seems that Guest17917 could be missing files for mariadb packages that are installed due to manual deletions |
| 04:22.56 | annadane | i'm just not sure about the naming conventions |
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| 04:23.07 | annadane | brb |
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| 04:35.52 | Guest17917 | So what should I do? |
| 04:36.07 | Guest17917 | mysql_secure_installation is a setup script |
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| 04:38.14 | annadane | probably if you post the output of your script we'd be able to see which files it's installing so you can make sure to do the uninstallation proerly or see if there are packages there that shouldn't be |
| 04:38.42 | annadane | afaict that isn't in the link you posted |
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| 04:39.15 | annadane | but in general, i'd say don't use a script and just install mariadb the standard way |
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| 04:40.32 | annadane | purge everything you have there first and then install it is my best guess |
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| 04:41.51 | annadane | jmcnaught, sound advice? |
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| 04:44.37 | xilon | Hi, I am facing an issue with my Debian system. After running `apt update && apt upgrade`, I suddenly can no longer boot to GUI. If I press `Ctrl+Alt+F2`, I can log into the console, and then run startx, which throws me into the logged in Gnome, but I can't seem to get to gdm login screen. Additionally, it stays in that GUI only for a few seconds, before becoming unresponsive. Even if I don't run `startx` the console is unresponsive in |
| 04:44.57 | xilon | ... to keep pressing `Ctrl+Alt+F2` repeatedly to be able to type anything whatsoever |
| 04:45.09 | xilon | I'm in a loss as to what to do to even diagnose what's going on :/ |
| 04:45.28 | annadane | xilon, a good first start is to show us what you upgraded |
| 04:45.32 | annadane | !paste |
| 04:45.32 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 04:45.41 | annadane | cat /var/log/apt/history.log |
| 04:47.05 | xilon | Unfortunately, I can't access the internet from that machine, and can't paste the log; however, it is massive. |
| 04:47.38 | xilon | Most recently though, I tried to add i386 support |
| 04:47.54 | xilon | `dpkg --add-architecture i386` after which I did the upgrade |
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| 04:48.12 | xilon | Nothing in particular that I upgraded, just a normal update + upgrade |
| 04:48.13 | annadane | hmm, i wonder if there's any way to get that output |
| 04:48.26 | annadane | not sure how to do it without internet |
| 04:49.14 | annadane | a very roundabout way of doing it if you have an external drive would be to echo the history.log to a file and transfer it that way |
| 04:50.10 | xilon | any time I plug in an external hard drive, it seems to hang up and become unresponsive :/ |
| 04:50.21 | annadane | okay, let's do it this way |
| 04:51.06 | annadane | in the history.log, what does it say in terms of packages upgraed, newly installed, held back etc? and was this an upgrade from jessie or just stretch? |
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| 04:51.54 | xilon | I am on sid. |
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| 04:52.02 | annadane | ahh sid. |
| 04:52.06 | xilon | So yeah, it might be something terribly broken :/ |
| 04:52.13 | annadane | okay, best take it to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net then |
| 04:52.56 | xilon | ah ok. apologies for wrong channel |
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| 04:54.49 | annadane | (freenode really needs its own #debian-next) |
| 04:56.38 | annadane | and xilon i guess before you get there i can say that multiarch + sid can be the cause of many problems |
| 04:56.44 | annadane | i can already see where this is going |
| 04:57.49 | xilon | yep, I am struggling to get onto oftc :/ Got banned just by connecting :/ also, I think I should stick to non-sid if I want multiarch. Would testing+multiarch work ok, or should I stick to stable? |
| 04:58.51 | annadane | i don't know about testing but keep in mind now that you're on sid you can't go back to stable |
| 04:59.03 | annadane | you can go stable > testing > unstable but not the other direction |
| 04:59.44 | xilon | oh, I am not planning on moving backwards; I am planning now on just a clean re-install |
| 04:59.50 | annadane | i'm not sure why you're banned from oftc, i don't *think* #next requires ssl |
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| 05:00.05 | annadane | you can try to enable it and see if you can connect |
| 05:00.31 | xilon | I thought I had it on. Lemme try from a different client |
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| 05:02.54 | annadane | if you really can't i guess we might be able to bend the rules and discuss it here |
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| 05:04.55 | annadane | xilon, it's not that you "can't" use multiarch on sid, it's just complicated and you need to watch what you're doing - my inclination is that multiarch + testing is much better |
| 05:05.06 | xilon | the web interface to get on worked! :yay: |
| 05:05.10 | annadane | ah good |
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| 06:00.00 | Scrutinizer | recently debian testing got its libreoffice packages upgraded. That seem to have broken the libreoffice-breeze style interface (kde) for me. Is there any known way to fix it? What am I missing? |
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| 06:04.53 | nkuttler | !tell Scrutinizer about bts |
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| 06:07.02 | Scrutinizer | nkuttler: Why do you think it's a bug? |
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| 06:08.43 | nkuttler | Scrutinizer: create a new user, test again |
| 06:09.22 | milangass | hi, can i ask technical questions here? |
| 06:09.49 | annadane | !ask |
| 06:09.49 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 06:11.02 | Scrutinizer | nkuttler: I removed the libreoffice configuration from .config. Same result. |
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| 06:20.59 | nkuttler | Scrutinizer: you still have your kde config |
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| 06:26.17 | lolose | Is there a kernel command line to stop the boot process in initramfs and drop to a shell? |
| 06:26.51 | milangass | after i put the power button to hybrid-sleep in systemd, i have to login twice. using debian stretch with lxde |
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| 06:27.42 | milangass | had no luck with google this time |
| 06:27.48 | SwedeMike | lolose: you can try init=/bin/bash |
| 06:28.21 | SwedeMike | http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-reset-debian-root-password.html (if it still works) |
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| 06:29.31 | lolose | SwedeMike, I guess that could work.. would have preferred if there was a way to do it in the regular init script though |
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| 06:39.08 | lolose | SwedeMike, I actually tried that but doesn't seem to work. whatever I do it launches systemd as init |
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| 06:39.41 | lolose | even tried loading kernel and initrd via grub cmdline myself |
| 06:40.17 | lolose | ah. giving the wrong root partition worked |
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| 07:27.29 | phix | .o/ |
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| 07:52.54 | Lyberta | I'm getting "connection reset by peer" when using sshfs, ssh works fine and sshfs to other servers works fine, help? |
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| 07:54.24 | alocer | describe |
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| 07:55.10 | Lyberta | I run sshfs command and get this output in terminal |
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| 08:07.42 | guardian | hello, I tried to ask on oftc but nobody answered yesterday. When upgrading from jessie to stretch I noticed php5-fpm doesn't get upgraded to php7.0-fpm. stretch has php-fpm and php7.0-fpm packages while jessie has only php5-fpm. Is there something I should have done to get php5-fpm upgrade? |
| 08:10.09 | Lyberta | guardian, if you had php-fpm installed, it will instal php7-fpm but php5-fpm will not be automatically uninstalled |
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| 08:19.14 | remy | hello peeps |
| 08:20.50 | guardian | Lyberta: there's no php-fpm package in jessie, so I can't have it installed |
| 08:21.41 | Lyberta | guardian, then install php-fpm and remove php5-fpm if you are already om stretch |
| 08:22.01 | guardian | yeah that's what I'm going to do |
| 08:22.37 | guardian | I was just curious whether there was a way to make it upgraded instead of doing it "after the facts" like you just suggested |
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| 08:38.13 | Lyberta | guardian, if there was no "meta" package, there is no automatic way |
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| 08:42.50 | jawr | hi, im having an issue with udp and not sure what could be causing it. I have one server listening netcat -ul -p 5000 and from another server i send: echo -n "a message" | nc -u ip 5000 -vv -w1 |
| 08:42.59 | jawr | anything with a lenght less than 18 doesnt get through |
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| 08:44.31 | guardian | Lyberta: thanks for the answers, appreciated |
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| 08:53.22 | Trap-Chan | is there a way to catch application launcher keys (i don't know what combo it's secretly sending) and have them treated as other combos or even normal keys? |
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| 09:02.45 | petn-randall | jawr: Have you checked with tcpdump/tshark if the UDP packet is sent? |
| 09:03.16 | jawr | it is, its a bad cksum |
| 09:03.34 | jawr | length of 18+: [udp sum ok] UDP, length 18 |
| 09:03.41 | jawr | [bad udp cksum 0x5059 -> 0x514e!] UDP, length 17 |
| 09:03.44 | jawr | for others |
| 09:04.05 | jawr | if i do it over loopback it works fine |
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| 09:06.06 | petn-randall | jawr: Is the bad checksum on all packets? If yes, then there's a HW checksum offload to your NIC and you can safely ignore it. |
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| 09:06.33 | jawr | petn-randall: all packets > len of 17 seem to be fine |
| 09:07.04 | jawr | this is also something that has happened recently; it was working before |
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| 09:07.57 | petn-randall | jawr: Hmm, interesting. Can you narrow down when this started happening? |
| 09:08.35 | jawr | petn-randall: seemed to be in the last few days, i havent done any changes to the os myself, but im wondering if my service provider has |
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| 09:11.31 | petn-randall | jawr: Is it a VPS? |
| 09:11.40 | petn-randall | jawr: Or what do you suspect they have changed? |
| 09:11.54 | jawr | its a vps yes |
| 09:11.54 | petn-randall | jawr: I'd check if checksum offloading is enabled. |
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| 09:14.11 | jawr | bah, even with it off its not working |
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| 09:19.00 | petn-randall | jawr: There are several types of checksum offloading, which one did you turn off? |
| 09:19.21 | jawr | ethtool --offload eth0 rx off tx off |
| 09:21.33 | petn-randall | jawr: Hmm, that's the one I was thinking of. What NIC does your VPS use? |
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| 09:22.55 | jawr | ermmm, seems lspci isnt on here! |
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| 09:48.18 | zOthix | i know its off topic.. but does anyone got a link to blue whale ? |
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| 10:47.34 | Lyberta | to ssh-add |
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| 10:52.16 | abrotman | seems like a try it and see thing .. |
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| 11:04.54 | jikz | hello all.. |
| 11:05.13 | jikz | installed a new debian 9 for our production DB.. and now configuring.. |
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| 11:05.27 | jikz | install default mariadb-10.1 and now configuring this.. |
| 11:06.16 | jikz | while doing a mysqlbinlog i am getting the error message, unknown default characterset utf8mb64 |
| 11:06.57 | jikz | i can see this in 50-mysql-client.cnf under [mysql] tag.. |
| 11:07.19 | jikz | is this something which we can comment? if this will give error, why do we have this in the default config file? |
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| 11:36.00 | tadau | "$HOSTNAME org.gtk.vfs.Daemon[872]: A connection to the bus can't be made" in /var/log/messages <- anyone familiar with this error message? |
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| 11:44.31 | tadau | not sure if this is the culprit but that's the only hint i got atm. booting fails and pc ?stops? with a blank screen |
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| 11:45.18 | tadau | no errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 13:24.10 | Led_Zeppelin | any realtime strategy games for Linux? |
| 13:25.34 | abrotman | like starcraft? |
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| 13:25.58 | abrotman | Led_Zeppelin: Spring works on Linux |
| 13:26.07 | Led_Zeppelin | Spring? ok |
| 13:26.08 | abrotman | warzone2100 is another |
| 13:26.09 | Led_Zeppelin | let me take a look |
| 13:26.35 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, looking for something like diablo or starcraft. |
| 13:26.40 | abrotman | I mean, apt-cache search real time strategy |
| 13:26.47 | abrotman | wonders how Diablo is RTS .. |
| 13:27.07 | Led_Zeppelin | abrotman, yeah. probaly not RTS. sorry |
| 13:27.23 | AimHere | Led_Zeppelin, Tooth & Tail is a new RTS, that's brand new |
| 13:27.56 | AimHere | It's attempting to be playable with a gamepad, while still keeping a lot of RTSness about it |
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| 13:29.19 | abrotman | Spring is the engine for Total Annhilation if you remember that game |
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| 13:31.35 | Led_Zeppelin | any engines based out of WOW |
| 13:31.47 | anned20 | megaglest? |
| 13:31.54 | anned20 | warzone2100 |
| 13:32.01 | anned20 | glob2 |
| 13:32.05 | anned20 | spacezero |
| 13:35.14 | AimHere | Led_Zeppelin, Blizzard's games don't work on Linux, and they don't hire their engine out to other people |
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| 13:36.40 | Led_Zeppelin | AimHere, yes. sucks. Don't play too many games but those are the only ones I like. |
| 13:36.48 | Led_Zeppelin | I suppose I will get back to programming for fun then :p |
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| 13:37.24 | AimHere | There's been a fair few commercial RTS ports - Total War, Company of Heroes, Dawn of War |
| 13:37.53 | AimHere | One problem is that a lot of them don't offer multiplayer versus Windows users, which makes the multi less useful |
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| 13:58.57 | randomcat | Whenever i open firefox-esr it opens twice. I installed https://github.com/pyllyukko/user.js systemwide and ublock origin. Tried reinstalling firfox but still the same problem. |
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| 14:09.20 | abrotman | randomcat: Do you have it opening to your last known state? |
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| 14:12.48 | randomcat | abrotman: no, it opens with my startpage. i tried to reset it to default already but still the same problem |
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| 14:16.50 | randomcat | btw this happens on my laptop aswell so i guess it's a problem with this user.js file but even when i delete it and reinstall firefox the settings from there (always using private browsing etc.) are still enabled. |
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| 14:37.52 | kopper | randomcat that's a well-known bug with described work-around |
| 14:38.57 | kopper | https://github.com/pyllyukko/user.js/issues/308 |
| 14:39.09 | kopper | Seems closed as well |
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| 14:42.28 | randomcat | thanks :) |
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| 14:46.06 | pyllyukko | randomcat: yeah, it's a bug in firefox |
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| 14:54.29 | The`Unforgiven | Guys, i want to generate a gpg keys but I'm not sure about the expiration period. Is that good idea to issue key that never expires? |
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| 15:03.39 | User659 | Hello, I am facing a random server freeze and i would like to know how can i debug the cause of such freezed. I am running debian stretch with nothing but vmware workstation, all harddisks uses zfs-dkms |
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| 15:05.14 | User659 | It might take days for the freeze to accrue, and when it happens there is no user interaction with the host it self |
| 15:06.05 | User659 | I read about everysingle lon in /var/log but i found nothing useful |
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| 15:15.35 | azarus_ | Can I install debian on LUKS without LVM |
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| 15:33.39 | tw | manually. |
| 15:33.43 | tw | But not using the installer. |
| 15:34.41 | tw | There are also a number of gotchas you have to work around, like hibernate-restore w/ encrypted backing, encrypted swap, and soforth. |
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| 15:53.52 | pyllyukko | The`Unforgiven: it's not a good idea. you can always change the expiration later. |
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| 16:00.05 | azarus_ | tw: I think I've just done it with the installer. |
| 16:00.10 | azarus_ | I don't need swap anyway. |
| 16:01.50 | azarus_ | I found a neat option in the installer 'Configure encrypted volumes' which lets me do exactly what I want, debian on LUKS / without LVM. |
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| 16:04.45 | CrazyTux | hello, I am experiencing random freezes in Debian 9. When I open the browser and start using that the OS stops responding suddenly. |
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| 16:07.13 | AndreasLutro | what browser? |
| 16:08.05 | CrazyTux | opera |
| 16:08.29 | CrazyTux | this issue is there even when I play videos, sometimes. |
| 16:09.14 | AndreasLutro | check your system logs, dmesg, xorg logs |
| 16:09.32 | CrazyTux | please guide me how to do that. |
| 16:09.39 | CrazyTux | I am a linux beginner. |
| 16:10.09 | CrazyTux | please specify the commands for that, if that is needed. |
| 16:10.11 | AndreasLutro | mm reading those logs might be tricky then |
| 16:10.38 | AndreasLutro | journalctl -xn; dmesg; less /usr/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log |
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| 16:11.41 | AndreasLutro | may need sudo for some of them |
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| 16:12.22 | CrazyTux | AndreasLutro, please have a look at this. https://hastebin.com/sosihazalo.pas |
| 16:13.26 | Kitty | ok, wtf did i get a hiligh for that |
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| 16:14.10 | AndreasLutro | CrazyTux: you'll need `sudo dmesg`. and maybe your xorg logs are somewhere else, I don't know where sadly |
| 16:14.58 | coruja | CrazyTux, does this happen with other browsers too? |
| 16:15.28 | coruja | (firefox, chromium e.g.) |
| 16:16.29 | CrazyTux | AndreasLutro, please https://hastebin.com/efoqaliqam.go |
| 16:17.10 | CrazyTux | coruja, don't know. Not sure. I use Opera more often. And this issue of freezing is random, not everytime. |
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| 16:18.33 | CrazyTux | I use opera almost always. |
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| 16:19.56 | coruja | CrazyTux, and with 'play videos' you mean in a video player or in opera? |
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| 16:20.12 | CrazyTux | and on a few occasions it froze even browsing folders on my laptop. |
| 16:20.25 | CrazyTux | coruja, on vlc player. |
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| 16:20.55 | coruja | ok, sounds like a graphics/driver issue then |
| 16:21.28 | CrazyTux | coruja, then what is the solution. Please suggest. |
| 16:21.36 | coruja | can we see your Xorg.0.log? |
| 16:21.46 | CrazyTux | how? |
| 16:21.52 | CrazyTux | any command for that? |
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| 16:22.35 | coruja | it's a file in /var/log/ or ~/.local/share/xorg/ |
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| 16:24.01 | CrazyTux | coruja, please https://hastebin.com/korakifadu.hs |
| 16:25.22 | CrazyTux | https://hastebin.com/oqunihiwud.hs |
| 16:25.50 | CrazyTux | coruja, please check the second one. |
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| 16:28.37 | coruja | looks fine to me, at least no errors there |
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| 16:29.19 | CrazyTux | coruja, then what could be the possible reason? |
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| 16:31.00 | coruja | CrazyTux, i don't know ;) |
| 16:31.18 | CrazyTux | coruja, which distro are you using now? |
| 16:31.41 | coruja | debian testing (but why does that matter?) |
| 16:33.04 | CrazyTux | I am curious whether anybody else here using debian 9 having this issue. |
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| 16:38.34 | coruja | CrazyTux, the fact that this occurs randomly, even without heavy use of graphics, could hint at some kind of hardware failure |
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| 16:38.55 | coruja | CrazyTux, which desktop environment do you use? |
| 16:39.31 | CrazyTux | coruja, I have a new laptop. |
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| 16:39.36 | CrazyTux | using xfce. |
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| 16:41.23 | coruja | any special (for example very new or 'heavy') graphics hardware? |
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| 16:41.37 | CrazyTux | the laptop is new |
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| 16:42.28 | VentGrey | Hello debian users, has anyone else been able to install steam on stretch? |
| 16:42.59 | CrazyTux | coruja, PU~Dual core Intel Core i3-5005U (-HT-MCP-) speed/max~1899/1900 MHz Kernel~4.9.0-3-amd64 x86_64 Up~54 min Mem~1338.7/3854.5MB HDD~1000.2GB(7.6% used) Procs~220 Client~Shell inxi~2.3.5 |
| 16:43.09 | VentGrey | I get a libudev:i386 dependency but it's not going to be installed and trying to force-install it warns me about major breakage |
| 16:43.29 | CrazyTux | Graphics: Card: Intel HD Graphics 5500 |
| 16:43.30 | CrazyTux | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.30 | CrazyTux | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.30 | CrazyTux | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.43 | coruja | CrazyTux, linux sometimes has issues with latest graphics hardware, as it needs some time to create/adapt drivers for it, that's why i asked |
| 16:44.10 | CrazyTux | coruja, I am just clueless. New to linux. |
| 16:44.10 | coruja | ok, looks like quite mainstream hardware i guess |
| 16:44.16 | CrazyTux | what is the solution? |
| 16:44.28 | coruja | i still don't know ;) |
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| 16:45.21 | CrazyTux | ok |
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| 16:47.45 | coruja | CrazyTux, in the beginning i thought of opera as a possible culprit, so does the freezes always occur when opera is running (even without focus)? |
| 16:47.55 | coruja | s/does/do |
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| 16:48.45 | CrazyTux | ok |
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| 16:50.23 | coruja | CrazyTux, generally, packages from sources outside debian could often cause trouble |
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| 16:50.55 | VentGrey | It seems the apt steam package is broken |
| 16:51.27 | CrazyTux | I was using xubuntu 17.04 and am using Zorin Lite 12.2 also. They too have such problem. |
| 16:52.21 | CrazyTux | on Debian 9 also it happens, but very rarely. |
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| 16:54.01 | guardian | hmm I looked why diff-highlight wasn't executable and found https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=827292 but there's no follow up. Is this for security reasons? |
| 16:54.02 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/827292 in src:git (open): «git: diff-highlight not executable»; severity: minor; opened: 2016-06-14; last modified: 2016-06-14. |
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| 16:59.26 | Paul-- | hello |
| 17:01.07 | Paul-- | I'm lloking for re-compiling the kernel without answer to thousands of question , I search a pre-configured file with the drivers of the machine and stop |
| 17:02.07 | Paul-- | make oldconfig is good, but keep the last configuration file |
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| 17:12.05 | nnyby | hi, i'm looking for my udev bootup logs (this is /var/log/udev in ubuntu) i've added udev_log="debug" to /etc/init.d/udev.conf and updated my initramfs. where is the udev bootlog for debian? |
| 17:12.05 | Paul-- | make menuconfig take the corrent configuration of used kernel ? |
| 17:12.12 | ikonia | no |
| 17:12.14 | ikonia | make oldconfig |
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| 17:13.24 | iodev | hi CrazyTux |
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| 17:14.06 | CrazyTux | iodev, hi |
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| 17:20.15 | loranth | Hi, not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I just recently switched from Ubuntu 14.04 to Debian Stretch, and nautilus doesn't seem to have interactive type ahead (instead does recursive search on typing). How do I turn on interactive type ahead? |
| 17:20.47 | Paul-- | ikonia, oldconfig what .config take ? installation .config , previous compiling or what ? |
| 17:21.56 | mxh- | loranth: Press ctrl+s for pattern searching. It's not interactive but works |
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| 17:22.20 | ikonia | Paul--: it uses the old .config file and asks you to confirm/reject options that are "new" to the kernel in your new kernel |
| 17:22.23 | mxh- | loranth: also it uses regex so you'll need to add .* for wildcards etc |
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| 17:22.56 | mxh- | loranth: ...or just switch to Thunar which doesn't try to hide features from users :D |
| 17:22.56 | Paul-- | ikonia, ok, but old .config from where come ? |
| 17:23.06 | ikonia | ahhh, you want to generate the .config ? |
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| 17:25.51 | Paul-- | another question : on what port list Xorg demon ? |
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| 17:29.17 | hanetzer | hey folks. Quick question: is there an online repository one can use to browse the buildscripts for various packages, or does it come down to having to download the source package, extracting it, and investigating it manually? |
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| 17:46.02 | Mick | Hi, why do i need password to do "sudo su" ? pastebin: https://pastebin.com/VDvniaZV |
| 17:46.26 | hanetzer | Mick: because sudo requires a password. |
| 17:46.42 | nnyby | it doesn't if you have it configured with NOPASSWD properly |
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| 17:47.06 | hanetzer | nnyby: well, considering there are probably more ways to do that wrong than right... ;) |
| 17:47.15 | lionrouge | hi ! |
| 17:47.21 | nnyby | Mick: here's what i have in my sudo config: nik ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL |
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| 17:48.36 | lionrouge | in my LTSP thin client i can login to xterm but not to Xfce. What can be the issue? |
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| 17:49.38 | Mick | nnyby: ALL, still asking for a passwd... |
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| 17:50.53 | towo` | Mick, your syntax is wrong |
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| 17:51.52 | Mick | towo`: ? |
| 17:52.10 | towo` | Mick, the syntax in your sudoers is wrong |
| 17:52.38 | Mick | i used visudo, which does does not write out if wrong syntax, does it ? |
| 17:52.56 | towo` | Mick, compare the statement of nnyby with yours |
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| 17:53.31 | towo` | Mick, ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL != ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/bin/su |
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| 17:57.15 | Mick | wolf ALL= NOPASSWD: ALL ???? |
| 17:57.27 | Mick | right ? |
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| 17:59.35 | jhutchins | nnyby: Why not just add your user to the sudo group? |
| 17:59.55 | jhutchins | Mick: ^ |
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| 18:00.11 | Mick | jhutchins: why u asking ? |
| 18:00.20 | Mick | jhutchins: ? |
| 18:00.29 | jhutchins | It's sort of the way it's meant to work in Debian. |
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| 18:01.02 | Mick | it got to complicated, trying to keep it easy, .. |
| 18:01.33 | n4dir | can't get any easier than using su. As far it's me. |
| 18:01.35 | mxh- | `useradd <user> sudo` iq quite simple, but here is some info on the structure of /etc/sudoers https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-edit-the-sudoers-file-on-ubuntu-and-centos#how-to-modify-the-sudoers-file |
| 18:01.48 | Mick | i get lost in debian quite often, touching things at the wrong spots.. |
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| 18:02.03 | Mick | dang, why does it not work ? somebody ? |
| 18:02.15 | mxh- | Mick: quick question, did you relog? |
| 18:02.32 | Mick | mxh-: NO, i did not ! |
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| 18:03.09 | nnyby | jhutchins: because, by default, the sudo group still requires a password. I would have to edit visudo anyways, so it's not like i'd be saving any time by doing that. in fact, then it's two steps instead of one >_< |
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| 18:07.37 | Mick | let me log out and login again... |
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| 18:09.35 | Mick | loggin out and in did not work.. |
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| 18:11.55 | Paul-- | hello |
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| 18:13.42 | Paul-- | I re-compile kernel, I copy the new kernel under /boot/kernel-name , with same name of old kernel ( it's same version ) but it don't go |
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| 18:14.22 | Mick | please msg me, if anybody ..., gonna change room... |
| 18:14.38 | Paul-- | I see old image kernel is a bZimage , and new kernel no, is it influence ? if yes, how may I trasform the vmlinux in a bZimage ? |
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| 18:24.21 | Nulo | Sup guys |
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| 18:34.27 | Kobaz | Paul--: grub is expecting /boot/vmlinuz-xxx for auto grub.cfg creation |
| 18:34.46 | Kobaz | Paul--: if you did a make bzImage... just use mv |
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| 18:34.55 | Kobaz | there's no 'transform' needed |
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| 18:44.59 | elliot007 | i locked the desktop with i3lock and then when i was trying to get in it was taking long time to verify, so i tried to `pkill i3lock` and it worked and i got the desktop again, but i can't do anything, keyboard and mouse don't work |
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| 18:45.41 | raidghost | Why is tvheadend + tvtunercard (DVB-C) + softcam so hard to get working?' |
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| 18:46.15 | raidghost | the tvtunercard is propper installed. Tvheadend is installed propper, And softcam is been configured as expected. but still "Encrypted channel" |
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| 18:51.11 | qxt | Been using a DasKeyboard 4 with xfce for years and it worked great out of the box. For some reason with gnome the volume knob on the keyboard does not work. Is there a way to bind media keys in gnome? |
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| 19:00.26 | paqcito | Hey guys! I've been learning about Linux for almost a month and a half now. I have the following questions. I want to be a sysadmin though. What is the best practice or way to track stuff you install binaries? |
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| 19:02.52 | guardian | beginner question: should I use /etc/cron.d, /etc/cron.daily or crontab -e as root when willing to schedule a backup script |
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| 19:06.15 | disposable3 | paqcito: dpkg -l |
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| 19:09.45 | Raspberryy | Hi, my wlan0 works fine but when i try to access remotely transmission or kodi my wlan get freezed. The message is: wlan0 expired RA and it takes the second IP of my router settings. |
| 19:10.05 | Raspberryy | can someone help me i have read a lot but i can sort it out |
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| 19:12.45 | disposable3 | guardian: at my work, we have a policy to put EVERYTHING in root's crontab so it's all in one place. if it needs a script, put the script in /usr/local/bin or something and call it from crontab. |
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| 19:14.30 | Brigo | Raspberryy, i would guess a hardware or driver issue. Can you try a different kernel? |
| 19:14.34 | Brigo | or wifi? |
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| 19:15.08 | Raspberryy | Brigo im downloading just now raspbian last image |
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| 19:15.40 | Raspberryy | it works fine on internet and downloading things |
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| 19:16.15 | Raspberryy | but when y try to connect from another device to my raspberry I lost connectivity |
| 19:16.56 | Brigo | do you have the Raspberryy connected to an ap? |
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| 19:17.19 | paqcito | disposable3: guardian I use /etc/crontab at my job |
| 19:17.26 | Raspberryy | AP= acces point? yes |
| 19:17.28 | guardian | disposable3: I see |
| 19:17.43 | paqcito | disposable3: Thanks. Are you a sysadmin? |
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| 19:17.53 | guardian | paqcito: can't /etc/crontab be updated and then you need to resolve merge conflicts? |
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| 19:18.10 | Brigo | Raspberryy, wierd, but i would guess the some problem. Any way for your information: |
| 19:19.02 | Brigo | !raspbian |
| 19:19.02 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 19:19.13 | paqcito | guardian: hasn't happened at my work yet |
| 19:19.21 | guardian | k |
| 19:19.56 | Raspberryy | dpkg its true, but no one is answering |
| 19:19.57 | dpkg | Raspberryy: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 19:22.34 | Brigo | Raspberryy, dpkg is a bot. |
| 19:23.38 | Raspberryy | ok |
| 19:23.39 | Raspberryy | thx |
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| 19:25.30 | paqcito | My question is, how do I track every single binarie I had installed with dpkg and keep them up-to-date, etc? |
| 19:25.35 | paqcito | cc disposable3 |
| 19:27.21 | n4dir | paqcito: there ain't much need to keep track of it. run apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade regularly. |
| 19:28.24 | paqcito | n4dir: Oh I thought binaries I installed with dpkg weren't manage as the same way apt-get or aptitude do |
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| 19:28.43 | n4dir | why would you want to install packages with dpkg ? |
| 19:29.01 | paqcito | n4dir: The ones I want aren't in my repo with apt-get |
| 19:29.08 | n4dir | if you do that, i guess you are on your own. |
| 19:29.32 | n4dir | paqcito: i see. But that shouldn't be that many ? |
| 19:30.20 | paqcito | n4dir: Yes, just a couple, but I wanted to know if there was a way to do that? Since I'm just learning how to be a SysAdmin, I've been learning for almost 2 months recently |
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| 19:30.51 | paqcito | n4dir: Is the same with the compile ones? I haven't compiled anything yet. Just curious. |
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| 19:31.10 | n4dir | paqcito: not that i would know of. There are some "aptitude" tricks to show what was installed how, etc, but i don't think that will work for packages installed "manually" (via dpkg -i *deb). |
| 19:31.27 | n4dir | there might be, but i sure don't know of |
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| 19:31.57 | n4dir | as far compiling is concerned: you usually would "backport " it, that is: create a "deb" package. |
| 19:32.06 | n4dir | I guess the problem we have is valid there too. |
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| 19:33.08 | thiras | hello. I have a Debian KVM host (managed over virt-manager). Is there a way to create clusters and do live migration with another kvm host? |
| 19:33.18 | paqcito | n4dir: Yes, as far as I see with what you say is after compiling I'll have a deb package and we arew in the same place back again |
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| 19:33.48 | n4dir | paqcito: like said. I am not sure. I would say: there is no way to "keep track of" packages installed via dpkg. |
| 19:34.02 | paqcito | n4dir: thanks |
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| 19:38.21 | n4dir | just ask again. perhaps there is a way. |
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| 19:47.34 | tesko | whatsa fleek? |
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| 20:03.39 | paqcito | I think the real question is, what is the best pratice to binary installing? |
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| 20:05.22 | tesko | building hello world in 8086 |
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| 20:05.57 | tesko | using assembly |
| 20:06.08 | mxh- | I keeep a ~/build folder for anything not installed through apt |
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| 20:06.31 | paqcito | mxh-: How do you do that? |
| 20:06.48 | mxh- | paqcito: I just place whatever I'm about to install or build there :P |
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| 20:07.00 | paqcito | mxh-: like actually the deb package? |
| 20:07.18 | mxh- | paqcito: Yep. Or if it's a binary i symlink it to wherever i want it to go. |
| 20:07.58 | paqcito | mxh-: I'm pretty new learning all tis stuff. I just downloaded in this case "vagrant". And I installed doing dpkg -i vagrant.deb |
| 20:08.15 | paqcito | It's installed now and I can know what I've installed with doing dpkg -l |
| 20:08.25 | paqcito | or even seeing logs /var/log/dpkg.log |
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| 20:08.46 | mxh- | paqcito: ...is vagrant not in the stable repos? |
| 20:08.50 | paqcito | How do I keep every single of them up to date when there's a new release? |
| 20:10.15 | mxh- | Depends on the deb - some add themseleves to sources.list, like chrome. |
| 20:10.20 | paqcito | mxh-: Yes, it is, but this is for practice and know how to do when actually I have a package isnt in the stable repos |
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| 20:11.35 | mxh- | Waiting for someone else to answer, I don't really ever install .deb files :) |
| 20:13.31 | paqcito | mxh-: thanks |
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| 20:15.06 | simbalion | Hi, I'm having a weird problem where ansible is not seeing the value of $ANSIBLE_CONFIG when I run it, however that variable is set, which I can verify with echo. The only time ansible sees it's value is if I declare the variable as part of the ansible command ('$ VAR=value command') |
| 20:15.30 | simbalion | I'm having this issue on two different debian systems but someone helping me in #ansible can't reproduce the issue, could anyone in here help? |
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| 20:16.55 | simbalion | wait I think I've solved it, nvm |
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| 20:26.19 | theratzul | @Simbalion: How did u solved the ansible problem? |
| 20:26.46 | simbalion | I wasn't using 'export' to create the variable as an environment variable, I was just declaring it in bashrc |
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| 20:27.25 | theratzul | k |
| 20:27.29 | theratzul | thx |
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| 20:46.11 | crucify_me | this is a 32bit thinkPad |
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| 21:32.49 | imMute | is there a way to hook into the dependency solver part of apt and give it a list of "whats already installed" and "what I want to install" to get back a list of packages and versions I need to download? possibly also a way to do that without using the sources.list that is in /etc |
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| 21:35.06 | imMute | apt-offline is close to what I want, but I can't run it on the system-to-be-updated, I have to run it from a dev system which has all sorts of stuff installed and in sources.list that I don't want polluting the target systems |
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| 21:40.08 | shmigle | Hello I have a bit of an issue with grub. Is anyone available to help? |
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| 21:45.48 | mxh- | just ask man, someone is or isn't :) |
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| 21:46.57 | RoyK | !ask | shmigle |
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| 21:55.21 | rotaticus | imMute: build a chroot to do the apt-offline thing ;) |
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| 21:59.52 | imMute | rotaticus: I may just end up doing that if libapt-pkg ends up being too difficult to use. |
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| 22:02.51 | rotaticus | imMute: after building it just hoover /var/cache/apt/archives to the offline system ... no trashed sources.list and good updating |
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| 22:07.46 | Raspberryy | cobalt Linux raspberrypi 4.9.41-v7+ #1023 SMP Tue Aug 8 16:00:15 BST 2017 armv7l GNU/Linux |
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| 22:11.15 | rotaticus | Raspberryy: damn i'd like to use one of thoose too, but the sound driver is borked on >3.4 |
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| 22:15.35 | imMute | rotaticus: our "offline" system is sorta IoT/embedded (but not really since we started with stock Jessie). the updating process for them uses apt, but with my own custom wrapper. |
| 22:16.07 | imMute | rotaticus: the "installer" is just a tarball of an Apt repo that we build and the wrapper script just points apt at that and says dist-upgrade. |
| 22:17.18 | imMute | rotaticus: the systems are imaged from a clonezilla image for initial manufacturing, but them apt is used to update them from that. |
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| 22:18.05 | imMute | rotaticus: so I have to figure out what deps are needed to wrap up in that tarball based on what is needed by the new firmware packaages "minus" what is already on the system "plus" whatever is on the system but Debian has a newer version for. |
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| 22:26.36 | rotaticus | imMute: seems fragile ... jessie from clonezilla calls wrapper wgets tarball of ancient repo wrapper calls dist-upgrade ... damn |
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| 22:28.38 | imMute | no no no. the clonezilla just images the hard drive with an initial image of Jessie (customized a little bit, mainly using btrfs and a snapshotting system). then later a tarball is uploaded and a script unpacks it and points apt at it. |
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| 22:29.25 | imMute | that tarball is what I'm building. it contains our application packages as well as dependencies that aren't already installed on the system. so it'll have the latest packages from Debian as soon as possible. |
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| 22:32.36 | rotaticus | sry i exaggerated, but it's many pieces you got there .. |
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| 22:36.00 | imMute | I'll admit there are parts of it that could be better, but it's the best I could do given my constraints. (and it's a hell of alot better than what the previous product did) |
| 22:37.00 | imMute | the other moving pieces are the btrfs snapshot management. it's sorta like snapper - it makes a snapshot before doing an upgrade and rolls back to that snapshot if apt reports an error. all that is done "offline" using systemd's offline-upgrades target |
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| 22:46.46 | HoloIRCUser | All commands to systemctl returns help msg from shutdown |
| 22:47.08 | HoloIRCUser | And shutdown itself does nothing |
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| 22:48.49 | HoloIRCUser | Actually 'shutdown -h now' returns 'alarm clock' |
| 22:49.15 | HoloIRCUser | How to at least shutdown properly? |
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| 22:51.56 | HoloIRCUser | The shutdown cmd also reported 'shutdown: /run/initctl: no such file or directory' |
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| 23:06.15 | HoloIRCUser | Shutdown is looking for /run/systemd/initctl/fifo. The initctl directory does not exist |
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| 23:15.05 | ayyy_239 | I take that back. |
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