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| 00:46.00 | frame | hi, anyone knows how to increase windows limit in screen ? I can create only 40 windows |
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| 01:18.17 | vlt | frame: Seems to be hardcoded. I switched to tmux recently ;-) |
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| 01:19.28 | frame | no, its not hardcoded |
| 01:19.46 | frame | I remember was recompiling screen when I though it was hardcoded too |
| 01:20.11 | frame | and than few years later I heard someone saying on IRC that there is config option, and I tryed it and it worked |
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| 01:22.23 | frame | back then I changed config.h with "define MAXWIN 100" |
| 01:23.03 | frame | but that was for version screen-4.0.3 from 2006, so who knows, maybe its never version that supports it without recompilling |
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| 01:25.56 | eck | iirc it was abandoned |
| 01:26.01 | eck | doesn't mean it's not supported, just fyi |
| 01:26.05 | eck | you might have to rtfs |
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| 01:30.21 | vlt | frame: Sounds interesting. What exactly made you think itâs ânot hardcodedâ? |
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| 01:32.02 | Maid-Chan | has anyone here used discord? |
| 01:32.10 | tx | lots |
| 01:32.16 | tx | But yes, me. :) |
| 01:32.19 | bazhang | just for gaming |
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| 01:40.35 | Maid-Chan | tx, bazhang, either of you experience noise in the line when using it with debian? |
| 01:40.52 | tx | incoming (hearing others) or outgoing (speaking) |
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| 01:43.38 | frame | what is discord ? audio chat ? |
| 01:43.43 | Maid-Chan | it started on incoming but then my partner said it started affecting outbound. but now it seems fine(different day) |
| 01:44.04 | Maid-Chan | frame complete gaming social club software with voice and soon video. |
| 01:44.10 | frame | I heard people mentioned discord a lot on IRC |
| 01:44.25 | Maid-Chan | it's like your club has their own IRC with voice channels. |
| 01:44.42 | uptime | frame: https://discordapp.com/ |
| 01:45.13 | frame | doesn't sound very interesting, sort of reincarnation of skipe |
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| 01:46.22 | Maid-Chan | lolz it is to skype as gimp is to paintbrush for commodore 64. |
| 01:47.15 | Maid-Chan | on the surface it may seem like it's a similar intention software but it's a very different (and far more advanced) beast. |
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| 01:49.35 | Maid-Chan | hrm. how do you set hexchat to minimize/close to the system tray? the tray icon doesn't summon it's own settings window like it does on windows. |
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| 01:55.45 | annadane | Maid-Chan, settings - alerts - minimize to tray |
| 01:55.56 | annadane | minimize to tray and close to tray |
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| 02:01.23 | Maid-Chan | annadane thanx. |
| 02:01.43 | Maid-Chan | is there a good way to get openrazer since it's not on the repo? |
| 02:02.55 | somiaj | Maid-Chan: depends on what upstream has to offer. If they offer the source, you can sometimes just compile it on the system and install it in /usr/local |
| 02:03.11 | Maid-Chan | upstream? |
| 02:03.24 | somiaj | Where the software originiates. |
| 02:03.30 | Maid-Chan | ahh |
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| 02:03.36 | somiaj | debian takes software from upstream, and repackages for the debian system. |
| 02:03.39 | somiaj | well packages it |
| 02:03.50 | somiaj | (which includes modifications) |
| 02:04.25 | Maid-Chan | ahh. i thought that self compiling from upstream was as frowned upon as adding unsanctioned repos. |
| 02:06.41 | Maid-Chan | https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=hardware%3Arazer&package=openrazer-meta << seems like it wants me to add a custom repo...though i can't tell what kind of repo since i don't see any keywards like stretch non-free etc. |
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| 02:07.33 | Maid-Chan | also dunno what Debian sid means. |
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| 02:08.03 | bazhang | Maid-Chan, thats opensuse |
| 02:08.41 | sypher | It's the OpenSUSE build service. It does offer packages for Debian, but... Your mileage will definitely vary. |
| 02:08.42 | Maid-Chan | really? i clicked the debian tab. |
| 02:08.49 | somiaj | if you don't know what debian sid means, then you don't want to be using debian sid. |
| 02:09.04 | sypher | Maid-Chan: sid = the unstable development branch. |
| 02:09.18 | somiaj | Maid-Chan: you can try to look for packages built for debian stretch. I would be careful installing random .debs you find for software unless you know it is compadable with stretch. |
| 02:09.20 | Maid-Chan | ahh. i'm on stretch. is that 9.0? |
| 02:09.25 | sypher | Yes. |
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| 02:11.24 | Maid-Chan | so basically if i understand you guys right they are using opensuse's package manager which can be compatible with debian but is not recommended like all non sanctioned repos? |
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| 02:11.35 | sypher | Maid-Chan: Not quite. |
| 02:12.28 | sypher | Maid-Chan: The OpenSUSE build service is building packages that can be retrieved using Debian's package manager, but like all third-party repos, you get to keep the pieces if/when it breaks your stuff. |
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| 02:13.01 | Maid-Chan | keep the pieces? |
| 02:16.05 | sypher | In other words, the Debian project offers NO guarantees of proper functionality. If a third-party repo breaks your system, you're essentially on your own. |
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| 02:18.59 | Maid-Chan | ahh. |
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| 02:20.26 | Maid-Chan | is anbox something that is worth getting? wouldn't mind getting scratch jr and a couple other apps my daughter's school uses to teach coding. |
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| 02:24.15 | pawalls | Anyone have experience making Gnome and various QT/GTK+ apps (like Ardour and Chromium) play nice with high density (ie. 276 DPI) screens? |
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| 02:25.47 | qzo | pawalls, just out of curiosity, what screen are you using that has a DPI of 276? |
| 02:26.32 | pawalls | It's the screen built into the Dell XPS 13 9350 (QHD+) laptop |
| 02:27.00 | qzo | oh |
| 02:27.06 | qzo | Huh |
| 02:27.34 | qzo | Im sorry, I can't really help. I have a 1080p 9360 and I am running it at native resolution |
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| 02:27.40 | qzo | I am also not using gnome though |
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| 02:28.54 | pawalls | I have been able to make the standard interface elements look good, but some random apps don't seem to play nicely. For example, Chromium needs to be explicitly told to --force-device-scale-factor=2.0 |
| 02:29.14 | pawalls | I'm bumping into similar issues with LMMS and Ardour. |
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| 02:35.07 | aloo_shu | pawalls ardour has an item called gui scale buried somewherein the settings. or ought to |
| 02:35.13 | draeath | I need to file a bug but I'm unsure what package to file against. This is regarding the handling of .desktop launchers in the mate menu. Anyone happen to know the best home for this report? |
| 02:36.10 | draeath | i'm *guessing* mate-menu? |
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| 02:38.11 | aloo_shu | pawalls but maybe it is worth a shot to see what xrandr can do for you, or the acessability tools of your desktop environment be repurposed |
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| 02:42.42 | aloo_shu | draeath and what happens with the launchers? |
| 02:44.16 | pawalls | aloo_shu, any pointers for xrandr? I tried to give it the right incantations but it didn't seem to like the scaling factors I provided. |
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| 02:46.31 | draeath | aloo_shu, found it already reported. bugs 773915 and 809742. Basically if it's flagged to run in a terminal, xterm is assumed (and you get an error if you don't have xterm, on top of that) |
| 02:46.37 | aloo_shu | pawalls sorry, no. just wanted to give the general idea , like do man xrandr and see if something fits. Also setting related to desktop appearance (may ne named differently) could have a way to set dpi globally. But I have a feeling you are better informed than me.. |
| 02:47.18 | draeath | 3 year old bug, wow. |
| 02:48.19 | draeath | gotta love that gnome upstream |
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| 02:50.08 | aloo_shu | do bugs celebrate birthdays ? |
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| 03:35.28 | hum77 | is it possible to know which process is eating up cpu ? |
| 03:35.39 | hum77 | on a shell i mean? |
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| 03:36.03 | Maid-Chan | does anyone know how to make debian stop assuming that newly(or even previously) attached displays are 1080p? |
| 03:36.25 | smithscott | hum77, try top or htop |
| 03:37.02 | hum77 | smithscott: i am trying htop, but it is only showing my own processes that are not using any cpu. I want to find global processes. |
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| 03:37.38 | hum77 | and I don't have root |
| 03:38.02 | hum77 | and don't want to break rules |
| 03:38.38 | Maid-Chan | top is showing me root processes as well as my own. hrm htop doesn't even seem to exist. |
| 03:40.38 | Sveta | hum77: check 'ps aux', if you only see your own then they hardened the kernel and you lack access |
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| 03:41.23 | hum77 | yeap, hardened |
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| 03:45.25 | Sveta | hum77: you may wish to ask the shell administrators to check cpu usage and limit it for each user |
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| 03:46.11 | hum77 | I don't know, I will pm you the name. if it is ok with you, may I pm you? |
| 03:46.25 | Sveta | yes |
| 03:46.31 | hum77 | thank you |
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| 03:48.00 | Maid-Chan | is there a way to copy/move/affect files in admin directories using thunar without opening thunar as admin? i'd be perfectly fine if it would ask my permission to make the change but i don't want to have to use terminal every time i want to change the wallpaper folder. |
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| 04:15.20 | linux_ | hello anyone |
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| 04:16.21 | adityaduggal | Hi i need help fixing my grub on my notebook the rescue USB is giving me error with grub-install |
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| 04:18.21 | adityaduggal | Can any one help me |
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| 04:18.34 | woem | does a default debian install (i.e., grub, I think?) have support for decrypting a full disk encryption key using an OpenPGP smartcard, such that possessing the card (as opposed to knowing a passphrase) is required to access the disc? |
| 04:18.56 | annadane | adityaduggal, what's the error? |
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| 04:19.24 | annadane | linux_, hi. just ask. |
| 04:21.02 | adityaduggal | When I click on reinstall grub it asks for the drive and when I select dev/s da or sda1 or sda3 it gives me a fatal error |
| 04:21.07 | linux_ | i want to switch distros, to start using debian. not sure if thats the right call but im considering it |
| 04:21.49 | annadane | linux_, sure, well, you're asking in #debian so it's safe to say we all think debian is pretty neat |
| 04:22.03 | annadane | https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian |
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| 04:23.03 | adityaduggal | Sda1 is efi boot 100mb or so sda2 is swap and sda3 is root |
| 04:23.53 | Arahael | how many people run debian on the mac laptops, dont they have issues wih overheating and hardware support? |
| 04:24.10 | linux_ | yes because you see iwant a system thats really fast and stable. |
| 04:24.11 | adityaduggal | I am not able to know why rescue is unable to reinstall grub and where should I actually install grub |
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| 04:24.51 | annadane | it may be that you're trying to install grub over already existing partitions reserved for something else like swap or boot or root etc |
| 04:25.10 | annadane | i'm not too familiar with grub installation, i'm sure it's on the internet, i can look it up... |
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| 04:26.20 | adityaduggal | I know that I don't have a separate boot partition but that efi partition Is confusing me |
| 04:26.41 | annadane | adityaduggal, just to be clear you had grub working before and now you can't access grub and so you're trying to install it/configure it using a rescue disc? |
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| 04:27.36 | annadane | in any case it's beyond my area of knowledge; i'm sure someone can help you though |
| 04:28.07 | adityaduggal | Yes i had working grub but I used a graphical tool to remove the windows bootloader entry from grub since I removed windows from my system but after that the grub was lost |
| 04:28.54 | adityaduggal | So now I am trying to reinstall the grub to boot my system which is running Debian9 |
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| 04:29.42 | annadane | and it just says "fatal error" and nothing else |
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| 04:30.07 | Hooloovo0 | there's a way to do it by running a live cd and using chrrot |
| 04:30.12 | Hooloovo0 | chroot even |
| 04:30.28 | annadane | i made the assumpion that a rescue usb would likely be able to do it |
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| 04:30.56 | Hooloovo0 | if you google 'chroot grub fix' something will probably come up |
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| 04:32.15 | jair | hello there, I just did a fresh install of debian 9.1 and when trying to start lightdm-gtk-greeter tool I am getting this error >> https://github.com/solus-project/budgie-desktop-branding/blob/master/schemas/material/org.gnome.desktop.interface.gschema.override |
| 04:32.19 | jair | 12:13 < bacon_bot> [ budgie-desktop-branding/org.gnome.desktop.interface.gschema.override at master · solus-project/budgie-desktop-branding · GitHub ] - github.com |
| 04:32.22 | jair | 12:13 <@ikey> ^ those are the interface changes |
| 04:32.29 | jair | sorry |
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| 04:34.24 | adityaduggal | http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd |
| 04:34.37 | jair | ** (lightdm-gtk-greeter:978): WARNING **: Unable to determine socket to daemon |
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| 04:34.47 | jair | that is the error I am getting |
| 04:34.56 | adityaduggal | I tried above link but when I enter grub-install /dev/sda |
| 04:35.06 | jair | is it because I am missing some xorg packages perhaps? |
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| 04:35.11 | adityaduggal | I get error cannot find efi directory |
| 04:35.34 | jair | adityaduggal: what happened? how did you got to this state? |
| 04:35.37 | annadane | so, i see that link already mentions chroot |
| 04:35.45 | jair | virtual machine? dual boot with other os? |
| 04:35.55 | annadane | and yeah, probably a good place to start |
| 04:36.53 | adityaduggal | @Jair I was trying to remove windows entry from my grub via a tool which I found on Ubuntu help site |
| 04:37.18 | jair | ahhh |
| 04:37.30 | jair | so you do have a dual boot configured already? |
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| 04:38.59 | adityaduggal | No i have removed windows for good already |
| 04:39.14 | adityaduggal | So I was trying to remove the windows entry from grub |
| 04:39.18 | somiaj | adityaduggal: did you boot into efi mode? And did you mount the efi directory at /boot/efi |
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| 04:39.57 | adityaduggal | How to do tht |
| 04:40.28 | somiaj | https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall |
| 04:40.52 | somiaj | adityaduggal: you have to know what partition is your efi directory, /dev/sdaX and then mount it at /boot/efi witht he mount command. |
| 04:40.59 | somiaj | and the rescue image needs to be botted in efi mode |
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| 04:43.07 | jair | adityaduggal: I will recommend this tool >> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ this is what I used once |
| 04:43.44 | somiaj | the debian installer works too |
| 04:43.45 | jair | adityaduggal: but of course nothing better than understand what we are doing working directly with a live CD and grub |
| 04:44.37 | somiaj | the debian live cd doesn't support efi fyi |
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| 04:47.23 | enumerate | I fucked up medium time. I wanted to blacklist my bluetooth module. I added the "blacklist bluetooth" in "/etc/modprobe.d/bluetooth", then did a "sudo update-initramfs -u -k `uname -r` -v". This gave me some error about keyboard layout, but I didn't think much of it. I use a customized layout of us_EN with a custom name, say us_ENUM. Reboot and suddenly I cannot unlock my LUKS drive with my key. I have booted a live |
| 04:47.23 | enumerate | system and unlocked it that way and I am backing up my data now. Is there, however, a way to reverse this "update-initramfs" from the live CD? In my /boot/ partition there are no old image, so I need to generate one somehow. Any suggestions? |
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| 04:48.58 | enumerate | I have a vague understanding of initramfs - can I use a stock version or is generated specifically for my machine? |
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| 04:53.27 | somiaj | enumerate: it is generated from your kernel, but it shoudl be generated when you isntall a kernel package. |
| 04:53.58 | somiaj | enumerate: you should be able to chroot into your install and rebuild the initramfs |
| 04:54.21 | enumerate | that sounds great. |
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| 04:55.06 | enumerate | but if I try to rebuild it, I will still get the error about the keyboard layout. |
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| 05:02.55 | adityaduggal | Jair: I tried the link for Debian but on running apt-get install - - reinstall grub-efi I am getting an error /boot/efi doesn't look like efi partition |
| 05:03.26 | adityaduggal | I mounted /dev/Sda1 as /boot/efi |
| 05:04.02 | somiaj | adityaduggal: you need to mount your efi partition at that location. /dev/sda1 may not be the efi partition. |
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| 05:04.27 | adityaduggal | How to know which is a efi partition |
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| 05:06.05 | enumerate | adityaduggal: sudo blkid |
| 05:07.45 | woem | my machine seems to be able to boot debian 8 netinst, but only get to grub on debian 9 netinst |
| 05:08.40 | woem | (when i click install in the boot menu for 9, it just goes black indefinitely) |
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| 05:09.26 | somiaj | woem: do you know if you are using efi or legacy boot? |
| 05:09.46 | adityaduggal | Blkid is only giving uuid type and partying but nothing about efi |
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| 05:10.13 | adityaduggal | *partuuid |
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| 05:10.40 | woem | somiaj: by default i believe it's legacy, but when booting from usb my firmware gives me a choice between "sandisK" and "sandisk (efi)" and neither works on 9 |
| 05:10.47 | adityaduggal | Sda1 is ext3 type |
| 05:11.38 | adityaduggal | [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD" should return "EFI boot on HDD". |
| 05:11.51 | adityaduggal | Returns efi boot on hdd |
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| 05:19.14 | adityaduggal | Any help? |
| 05:19.15 | somiaj | look at the partition table to determine which is the efi partition. |
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| 05:22.37 | adityaduggal | Seems like I don't have efi partition what to do now |
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| 05:38.04 | jim | adityaduggal, so /sys/firmware/efi is a dir? |
| 05:39.36 | jim | adityaduggal, if you could run this and show the url it returns: ls -l /sys/firmware | nc termbin.com 9999 |
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| 05:41.39 | adityaduggal | Jim: I was about to reformat my drive but I guess I would give another shot |
| 05:41.46 | adityaduggal | Give me sometime |
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| 05:46.12 | adityaduggal | I am getting nc:bad address termbin. Com |
| 05:46.42 | jair | hello all I am trying to start the lightdm-gtk-settings in debian 9.1 and I am getting this error >> ** (lightdm-gtk-greeter:978): WARNING **: Unable to determine socket to daemon |
| 05:46.56 | jair | any suggestions? |
| 05:47.00 | jair | anything obvious? |
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| 06:07.30 | woem | somiaj: so was there some kind of uefi/bios-related change between 8 and 9 which would likely cause some machines to boot 8 but not 9? |
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| 06:18.51 | somiaj | woem: I don't think so, I was just double checking. You could just upgrade from jessie if you needed to. |
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| 06:19.18 | somiaj | woem: install debian 8 minimial system, upgrade to stretch, then install the rest. I don't know what would be causing the issue you are experincing |
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| 06:20.41 | woem | odd |
| 06:20.47 | woem | thanks though, didn't think of that |
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| 06:22.56 | Maid-Chan | so grub is showing OSes I don't have. like windows 8. do some of my hard drives maybe have like MBR data on them from old computers? |
| 06:23.25 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: probably the efi partition has .efi files |
| 06:23.50 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: type "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999" |
| 06:24.08 | Maid-Chan | what's that do? |
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| 06:25.12 | kopper | Read more http://termbin.com/ |
| 06:25.14 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: uploads the file to the pastebin |
| 06:25.29 | Maid-Chan | ahh |
| 06:25.35 | Maid-Chan | that's kinda cool. :P |
| 06:25.43 | Maid-Chan | are you wanting the link? |
| 06:27.43 | EriC^^ | yes |
| 06:27.52 | woem | somiaj: also not sure if this is helpful at all, but just fyi irrelevantly, i tried booting ubuntu (which i remember having efi problems with before) and i'm fairly sure it segfaulted |
| 06:28.21 | Maid-Chan | http://termbin.com/5isf |
| 06:28.22 | woem | after less than 2 seconds of uptime it dumped a bunch of hex data ending with numbers labeled "RIP" and "RSP" |
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| 06:30.22 | Maid-Chan | oddly i don't remmeber installing dos on ANY of the drives. |
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| 06:31.45 | Maid-Chan | hrm. i wonder if that could be the recovery partition? |
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| 06:33.26 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" |
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| 06:34.04 | Maid-Chan | http://termbin.com/jlwm |
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| 06:36.05 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: there are a boot-flagged partitions on the other drives |
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| 06:36.59 | Maid-Chan | is there any way to clean them or hide the ones i don't actually have installed? (whichever would be better/wiser) |
| 06:37.04 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: you only have windows 10 installed? |
| 06:37.09 | Maid-Chan | yep |
| 06:37.19 | EriC^^ | it's the 1tb hdd? |
| 06:37.26 | Maid-Chan | windows 10, debian and maybe whatever recovery windows may have. |
| 06:37.33 | Maid-Chan | yeah win10 is on the tb. |
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| 06:38.56 | EriC^^ | i'm not sure why it's thinking the windows ntfs one is msdos |
| 06:39.59 | Maid-Chan | if i read right it seems that the msdos is on the same HDD that win10 is on. that's why i was thinking it may be a recovery partition. |
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| 06:41.31 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: yeah, there's a small boot flagged one, which it added as windows 10 correctly, and the other one which is the bigger data partition is the msdos one |
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| 06:41.53 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: try "sudo blkid /dev/sdd2" does it return 72EE8D52EE8D0F91 as the uuid? |
| 06:42.09 | Maid-Chan | ohh that's weird. yeah i gave as much of the drive as the installer would let me to win10. |
| 06:42.38 | EriC^^ | maybe it has some kind of boot dir in there that's confusing grub's os-prober |
| 06:43.12 | Maid-Chan | seems so >> /dev/sdd2: UUID="72EE8D52EE8D0F91" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="48c662e3-02" |
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| 06:44.10 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: i guess your options are to delve into the partition as to what's causing grub to think it's a separate os, or disable os-prober and manually add the windows entry to grub |
| 06:45.38 | Maid-Chan | how hard would doing it manually be? |
| 06:46.56 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: incredibly easy |
| 06:47.40 | kopper | Couldn't you just disable boot-flag with parted for unnecessary partitions and update-grub? |
| 06:47.42 | Maid-Chan | delving into the partition seems beyond my skill level so doing it manually would probably be the better option. |
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| 06:48.05 | EriC^^ | kopper: it's reading the non-bootflagged ntfs of windows 10 as msdos/win3.1 entry |
| 06:48.21 | kopper | Oh |
| 06:48.21 | EriC^^ | the bootflagged ntfs of windows 10 is being read properly |
| 06:48.26 | kopper | Right |
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| 06:49.01 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: ok, type "sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober" |
| 06:49.42 | Maid-Chan | done without output. |
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| 06:50.28 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: type "sudo nano /etc/grub.d/40_custom" |
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| 06:51.16 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: add to the file the stuff here http://paste.ubuntu.com/25590880/ |
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| 06:51.44 | EriC^^ | save & exit then type sudo update-grub |
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| 06:53.05 | Maid-Chan | can i past into nano? |
| 06:53.44 | EriC^^ | yes |
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| 06:53.48 | Maid-Chan | nvm right clicking seems to work. :P |
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| 06:54.15 | Maid-Chan | i'm guessing terminal basically just types the contents of the clipboard? |
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| 06:54.50 | EriC^^ | no:D |
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| 06:55.23 | Maid-Chan | ohh so it directly inserts the contents like in a gui program? |
| 06:56.11 | Maid-Chan | well anyway done, found background, linux, initrd images. |
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| 06:56.57 | EriC^^ | great, try "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999" |
| 06:58.25 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: i guess in a way it does kind of type the contents out, in the sense that if there are control codes in the contents it does use them, i guess |
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| 06:58.58 | ongy | Hi, what could be the problem when the X server (over xbacklight) tells me my monitor does not have the backlight property? |
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| 06:59.25 | Maid-Chan | http://termbin.com/gtq8 |
| 06:59.58 | Maid-Chan | so tempted to give snark... *bites tounge* |
| 07:00.49 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: looks good! |
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| 07:01.14 | ongy | I can find max_brightness and and actual_brightness in /sys/class/drm/card0/card0-LVDS-1/intel_backlight which are set read only. when I give myself writepermissions on them, I get an Input/Output error when I try to pipe into them |
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| 07:01.55 | EriC^^ | ongy: you have to write to the brightness file to change it not max |
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| 07:02.12 | EriC^^ | echo 2000 | sudo tee /sys/class/drm/card0/card0-LVDS-1/intel_backlight/brightness |
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| 07:03.07 | Maid-Chan | EriC^^, so basically now it'll just have debian and win10? |
| 07:03.09 | ongy | http://lpaste.net/8144678330310852608 |
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| 07:03.53 | ongy | it doesn't make a difference when I use other values, I tried half of max (which is currently equal to actual) |
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| 07:06.35 | EriC^^ | Maid-Chan: yeah |
| 07:07.12 | EriC^^ | ongy: not actual_brightness |
| 07:07.17 | EriC^^ | brightness |
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| 07:07.40 | ongy | hm, I'm dumb |
| 07:07.44 | ongy | but why does the XServer not find it? |
| 07:07.44 | Maid-Chan | k now i just gotta research what i did on my HTPC that makes it so the menu is hidden under a splashcreen unless you click a button. |
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| 07:09.55 | weems2 | v |
| 07:11.00 | ongy | hm, https://askubuntu.com/questions/715306/xbacklight-no-outputs-have-backlight-property-no-sys-class-backlight-folder fixed it. I'm ok with this |
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| 07:14.30 | Jamboy | I'm sorry, can you help me? |
| 07:14.30 | Jamboy | ssh user@host 'sudo -u username psql' < db_script.sql |
| 07:15.19 | Jamboy | How i can run this command remotely? |
| 07:16.33 | Maid-Chan | the ssh user@host part makes that remote...no? |
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| 07:17.53 | Maid-Chan | user would be the user account you want to use on the remote machine and the host would be the ip of the host machine.the rest i don't know as i don't know sql anymore. |
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| 07:43.25 | adityaduggal | Hi finally I have resolved the grub issue....by reinstalling debian afresh |
| 07:43.41 | eck | nice |
| 07:43.59 | adityaduggal | now I am stuck at a point where i need to install fingerprint sensor but the help pages are not giving specific instructions: |
| 07:44.05 | adityaduggal | https://wiki.debian.org/FingerForce |
| 07:44.51 | toruvinn | adityaduggal, i dunno, but to me that wiki page seems like "it's work in progress, won't work yet" |
| 07:45.28 | adityaduggal | toruvinn: is this going to work: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_integrated_fingerprint_reader_with_ThinkFinger |
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| 07:46.27 | toruvinn | adityaduggal, well the first sentence says it was removed from Debian... ;-) |
| 07:46.42 | toruvinn | im sorry, i never tried using the fingerprint sensor so i cant help with that. |
| 07:47.09 | adityaduggal | anyone who has installed fingerprint sensor on debian.... |
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| 07:47.53 | adityaduggal | toruvinn: I had, prior to this debian install, ubuntu 16.04 and fingerprint-gui was working fine can I try that since ubuntu is anyways based on debian |
| 07:47.53 | ass_hole | we are the eleet hacker gang of irc |
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| 07:47.59 | ass_hole | all your passwords are belong to us. |
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| 07:49.10 | c-101 | Somebody set up us the bomb! |
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| 07:49.54 | ass_hole | what bomb? where? |
| 07:50.06 | c-101 | ¬_¬ |
| 07:50.15 | ass_hole | defuses the bomb, then yells "sorry goatfuckers, allah no akbar today |
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| 07:52.22 | thms | !wheezy->jessie |
| 07:52.23 | celyr | !ops ass_hole |
| 07:52.35 | ass_hole | !ops |
| 07:52.35 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
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| 07:53.51 | toruvinn | well that was... a bit more than i expected to happen |
| 07:54.18 | adityaduggal | anyone here who can help me with fingerprint on debian? |
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| 07:55.11 | toruvinn | adityaduggal, http://www.ullrich-online.cc/fingerprint/ this site says they tested it with debian 7, it /POSSIBLY/ works with latter too. since it worked for you earlier i guess the device you have is supported. (you can make sure by executing lsusb and looking at the device ids and comparing them with whatever is on the page I linked) |
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| 07:59.07 | woem | because I couldn't get 9 to boot I installed 8 and did a dist-upgrade and attempted to reboot and it's getting a kernel panic after about 3 seconds up |
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| 08:12.43 | c-101 | i am using debian testing and in my KDE right now i cannot right click in the taskbar entries |
| 08:13.03 | c-101 | I have found a 2016 bug refering the same behaviour because of mixed framework packages, but in my install that's not the case |
| 08:13.06 | c-101 | any idea ? |
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| 08:20.39 | adityaduggal | toruvinn: I have tried I am unable to install the dependencies for this fingerprint |
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| 08:21.15 | sigdk | what are some good alternatives to the default window manager? |
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| 08:22.08 | adityaduggal | https://paste.gnome.org/plt2lskqb |
| 08:22.45 | adityaduggal | toruvinn: I am unable to install the dependencies any clue, output above is for the install error |
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| 08:23.53 | adityaduggal | https://paste.debian.net/987222/ |
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| 08:26.15 | EriC^^ | adityaduggal: run it without the "," after the package names, i think that throws apt off |
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| 08:57.09 | aswen | Hi there, I'm trying to combine two settings in my apt preferences file in order to install version 1.2.3 from origin myfavoriterepo.example.com, yet, the same package exists in the Debian repo's with a newer version. I set these lines in the preferences.d/mypackage.pref file: |
| 08:57.22 | aswen | Package: mypackage |
| 08:57.45 | aswen | Pin: version 1.2.3, origing myfavoriterepo.example.com |
| 08:57.55 | aswen | Pin-Priority: 1001 |
| 08:58.51 | aswen | yet, when I do apt-cache policy mypackage Apt thinks I want version 2.3.4 from Debian repo (it lists the version from the repo I want but the candidate is 2.3.4) |
| 08:59.39 | aswen | I made a typo here above (not in the file on the machine) origing should be origin |
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| 09:01.20 | aswen | In documentation about pinning I found examples with 'Pin: release o=Debian, v=9' but, I don't know the release name for myfariterepo.example.com and the version seems to sugest the Debian version rather than the package version. |
| 09:01.28 | zaherdirkey | what is meaning "backports"? |
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| 09:02.58 | aswen | How can I convince Apt to install package mypackage. version 1.2.3 from myfavoriterepo.example.com? |
| 09:03.00 | bumbar | when installing mariadb server, password prompt is not shown and dpkg-reconfigure doesn't work either, what gives' |
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| 09:05.23 | jelly | bumbar: a fresh install of mariadb does not use password for root user on stretch, I think; instead they look up which user connected to the unix socket listener and automatically allow access, similar to postgres |
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| 09:06.30 | aswen | well, I solved it by _only_ use 'version'. But, I still wonder how I can combine my wishes |
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| 09:08.38 | jair | when I try to start >> start the lightdm-gtk-settings in debian 9.1 terminal as root I am getting this error >> ** (lightdm-gtk-greeter:978): WARNING **: Unable to determine socket to daemon |
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| 09:09.05 | jair | does anyone knows what packages I am missing from xorg? or any package I am missing period? |
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| 09:13.00 | jelly | jair: what happenswhen you run that as normal user? |
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| 09:13.30 | jair | jelly: checking |
| 09:13.40 | linux_ | hello, i want to install debian which iso image should i pick the dvd or cd. whats the diffrence? |
| 09:13.42 | jair | well I don't have the option in the terminal to run it |
| 09:15.04 | jair | linux_: are you trying to use debian as server or desktop? |
| 09:15.18 | jelly | jair: which package doesthat command belong to? |
| 09:15.23 | linux_ | jair: desktop |
| 09:15.33 | jelly | judd: file lightdm-gtk-settings |
| 09:15.37 | judd | No packages in stretch/amd64 were found with that file. |
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| 09:16.43 | jelly | linux_: the difference is amount of packages available on the medium that you don't have to pull in from internet. If you have internet access during installation, just use the netinst iso |
| 09:17.15 | jelly | linux_: if you have internet access via wifi, you may have to use |
| 09:17.19 | jelly | !firmware images |
| 09:17.19 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>. |
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| 09:18.16 | linux_ | well thats pretty virgue |
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| 09:18.45 | luxpir | any reason why x2go server is not in the stable repos? |
| 09:18.55 | luxpir | (only the client) |
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| 09:19.52 | luxpir | should i be having trust issues? |
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| 09:20.18 | apollo13 | it is in experimental, so it is on it's way, probably noone bothered adding it or it had some packaging issues that needed to be resolved first? |
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| 09:21.08 | jair | jelly: please check this output >> https://paste.ubuntu.com/25591356/ |
| 09:21.30 | jair | jelly: I pasted in ubuntu.com because paste.debian.net seems to be down |
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| 09:21.47 | luxpir | apollo13: ok, thanks for letting me know about exp - will check it out |
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| 09:22.24 | luxpir | apollo13: I also see that it's good enough for nasa |
| 09:22.30 | luxpir | https://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:success-stories:x2go-at-nasa-jet-propulsion-laboratory |
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| 09:23.15 | apollo13 | luxpir: probably, then again if you were not to trust x2go in the first place, quoting their project page as "trust" seems somewhat counterintuitive to me |
| 09:24.57 | jair | paste.debian.net is back online pasting another output there >> paste.debian.net/987223 |
| 09:26.23 | debguy124 | What channel i can use for hardware throubleshooting ? I have a motherboard with bios errors |
| 09:26.28 | jair | jelly: ? |
| 09:26.30 | luxpir | apollo13: deep, your opsec is :) |
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| 09:28.25 | luxpir | apollo13: my thinking was that the client was already cleared by debian and the server is being reviewed. plus it's an older FOSS project, in popular usage. i know that far from guarantees trust, but it's just about good enough for my case in a risk/reward context |
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| 09:29.06 | apollo13 | luxpir: well given that you access it only via ssh and could use apparmour to ensure that it does nothing stupid (ie accesses the network and leaks your data) you should be fine ⢠|
| 09:29.20 | apollo13 | from what I understand though is that it uses a fork of xserver which might cause problems |
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| 09:29.34 | apollo13 | also I don't think that it generally will work with kde plasma and gnome3 |
| 09:29.37 | jelly | jair: what does "which lightdm-gtk-settings" say, when you run it as root |
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| 09:30.05 | jair | jelly: checking |
| 09:30.54 | jair | jelly: /usr/sbin/lightdm-gtk-greeter |
| 09:31.37 | jelly | jair: that's not the same command name |
| 09:32.11 | jelly | anyhow, I'm off for a bit |
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| 09:32.52 | jair | jelly: ahh sorry you are right |
| 09:33.02 | phasta | Does one of you understand a bit about PGP? I'm wondering where in the source I can find the session key. |
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| 09:34.45 | jair | jelly: lightdm-gtk-settings |
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| 09:35.13 | luxpir | apollo13: using it with i3... trying to at least |
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| 10:10.26 | sbef | hello guys |
| 10:10.39 | sbef | ho to back up my debian withou creating a whole iso image? |
| 10:10.43 | sbef | how* |
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| 10:13.50 | Haohmaru | you typically backup your home folder, and maybe some configuration files from the OS |
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| 10:16.42 | sbef | Haohmaru: so just copy-paste |
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| 10:17.02 | EriC^^ | ^ + you can also make a list of installed packages via command in the terminal |
| 10:17.03 | Haohmaru | perhaps archive the stuff |
| 10:17.09 | jim | are there any gui frontends for taskwarrior? |
| 10:17.15 | EriC^^ | and autoinstall them later |
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| 10:19.02 | sbef | EriC^^: how to? |
| 10:19.42 | EriC^^ | sbef: comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u) > /path/to/savedlist |
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| 10:20.47 | EriC^^ | sbef: replace /path/to/savedlist with whatever you want to use, then when you want to install them back i think "xargs -a /path/to/list sudo apt-get install -y" should work |
| 10:21.02 | sbef | EriC^^: gzip: /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz: No such file or directory :/ |
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| 10:21.33 | EriC^^ | ah maybe it only works on ubuntu |
| 10:21.50 | sbef | EriC^^: well thank you, i'll look for the equivalent on debain! |
| 10:22.03 | EriC^^ | sbef: there's dpkg --get-selections > /path/to/list |
| 10:22.18 | Haohmaru | EriC^^ you call that "a command" ? ;] |
| 10:22.30 | Haohmaru | i call it a mini-script |
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| 10:22.51 | EriC^^ | then dpkg --set-selections < /path/to/list |
| 10:23.08 | EriC^^ | Haohmaru: hah :D |
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| 10:47.41 | veek | how do you install the geoip db files in /usr/share/xt_geoip/LE/ or whatever |
| 10:47.58 | veek | i downloaded geoipdb.bin |
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| 11:05.33 | alex_jones-knows | hey, anyone in here have experience with adding support for the chinese keyboard? |
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| 11:08.01 | Alucard4200 | humm |
| 11:08.23 | alex_jones-knows | there's no info at all about making it work, I can add most keyboard layouts, even tibetan, but if I try and ad Taiwanese to the XKBLAYOUT with an empty slot for XKBVARIANT I get nothing, so I tried the suggested VARIANTS from /usr/share/X11/xkb/base.lst, which shows indigenous and saisiyat, so you'd think it would work, but nothing |
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| 11:09.01 | alex_jones-knows | taiwanese for traditional chinese I'm assuming |
| 11:09.09 | alex_jones-knows | don't even think simplified is supported |
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| 11:10.12 | alex_jones-knows | motherfunker |
| 11:10.21 | alex_jones-knows | it's 5 in the morn |
| 11:10.44 | alex_jones-knows | I don't even need chinese |
| 11:11.57 | alex_jones-knows | is there a secret short hand form for indigenous and saisiyat as mentioned as VARIABLES in the base.lst file? |
| 11:12.04 | alex_jones-knows | who knows right |
| 11:12.23 | bazhang | alex_jones-knows, patience |
| 11:13.29 | bazhang | what languages did yu need alex_jones-knows |
| 11:14.12 | alex_jones-knows | I've already added serbian, german, french, and others without any problems |
| 11:14.34 | bazhang | yes |
| 11:14.50 | bazhang | so which are the problematic ones |
| 11:15.06 | alex_jones-knows | Taiwanese |
| 11:15.15 | bazhang | use ibus |
| 11:15.37 | bazhang | taiwanese is not a written language |
| 11:16.10 | alex_jones-knows | and the strange thing is that you can only get what seems like Tibetan for Chinese, which for the China mainland, it's the Peoples Republic of China which is Simplified Chinese as of 1947 |
| 11:16.34 | bazhang | traditional for taiwan |
| 11:17.08 | alex_jones-knows | so you have simplified chinese and traditional chinese and what do they use in Taiwan, they use traditional, closest thing I could find for traditional chinese in the base.lst file |
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| 11:17.57 | bazhang | no idea what that bse list is, you need ibus for korean and so on |
| 11:18.30 | alex_jones-knows | motherfunker |
| 11:18.42 | bazhang | ? |
| 11:18.47 | alex_jones-knows | just like the motherfunker takeover of bitcoin |
| 11:18.55 | alex_jones-knows | you know about rootstock |
| 11:19.04 | bazhang | alex_jones-knows, no |
| 11:19.23 | alex_jones-knows | it's the smart contract system for bitcoin, the same one that ethereum came up with |
| 11:19.47 | alex_jones-knows | get this, the testing release is called Ginger right, short hand for Gingerly |
| 11:19.52 | bazhang | alex_jones-knows, thats not even close to topical here |
| 11:20.14 | zaherdirkey | hi when i open ansi text file, it showed by diff codepage that used in the file, is there any setting in system/debian to set the default ansi cp? |
| 11:20.15 | alex_jones-knows | and the public release is code named bamboo, short hand for bamboozle |
| 11:20.39 | bazhang | #debian-offtopic alex_jones-knows |
| 11:20.47 | alex_jones-knows | the banks are all over it, the banks along with all the big companies |
| 11:20.49 | bazhang | take ti there please |
| 11:21.56 | alex_jones-knows | bamboozle: to decieve by trickery |
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| 11:22.29 | alex_jones-knows | code name bamboo |
| 11:22.34 | bazhang | alex_jones-knows, I've asked you several times to stop |
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| 11:22.49 | veek | kind of verbose.. |
| 11:22.55 | bazhang | nutter |
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| 11:37.24 | braingain | why is php7-stuff only in sid and not stretch yet? i wanted to migrate from php5 but cant find replacements for fastcgi in stretch repo. should i flag this somewhere? |
| 11:38.05 | jelly | !aptitude clone |
| 11:38.05 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>. |
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| 11:39.29 | jelly | braingain: what kind of stuff are you missing? Can you use php-fpm (php7.0-fpm) instead of fastcgi? |
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| 11:43.27 | braingain | jelly: oh noes it was my problem i didnt search apt-cache but dpkg m( |
| 11:43.52 | braingain | everythings working now |
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| 12:35.11 | Joker_ian | hey guys, I have 1 question about Openvpn on linux. I have old HDD that had linux on it with several VPNs configured and it crashed and now I have new HDD and want to copy all VPNs to the new 1...but don't know were openvpn config files are |
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| 12:42.34 | apollo13 | Joker_ian: /etc/openvpn |
| 12:44.32 | petemc | , |
| 12:44.48 | Joker_ian | apollo13: this folder have 1 file |
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| 12:48.02 | guardian | hello, what's the 2017 stance on what should go in /srv/www, /var/www and /usr/local/share/www ? |
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| 12:49.18 | apollo13 | the same as the 2016 one |
| 12:49.29 | apollo13 | :) |
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| 12:58.46 | rocketman_ | When updating debian system, what is the best practice, 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' or 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'? |
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| 13:00.35 | gpunk | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 13:00.36 | jelly | rocketman_: the latter. |
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| 13:01.05 | jelly | rocketman_: assuming you're talking about general patching up within a release |
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| 13:01.25 | no_usb_dsk | hello |
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| 13:01.49 | no_usb_dsk | hi peeps i am running debin old stable 32bit |
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| 13:02.03 | no_usb_dsk | on my netbook snd my usb disks are not being recognized |
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| 13:02.34 | gpunk | no_usb_dsk did you check dmesg ? |
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| 13:03.27 | no_usb_dsk | no |
| 13:03.32 | no_usb_dsk | let me check |
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| 13:05.44 | rocketman_ | gpunk, jelly, I guess this dist-upgrade won't break things,because the repository is restricted |
| 13:05.45 | no_usb_dsk | https://paste.debian.net/987255/ |
| 13:05.50 | no_usb_dsk | seems to find it |
| 13:06.25 | no_usb_dsk | nothing in /dev/sd* or /dev/usb* |
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| 13:07.19 | RoyK | no_usb_dsk: lsusb? lsscsi? lsblk? |
| 13:07.41 | Haohmaru | lseverythang |
| 13:07.46 | no_usb_dsk | Bus 001 Device 009: ID 125f:db8a A-DATA Technology Co., Ltd. |
| 13:07.52 | RoyK | lshw == lseverything ;) |
| 13:08.06 | Haohmaru | no no, thang! |
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| 13:09.35 | no_usb_dsk | https://paste.debian.net/987257/ |
| 13:09.41 | no_usb_dsk | does this mena sds1 is my usb disk?? |
| 13:09.44 | no_usb_dsk | sda1 |
| 13:10.01 | RoyK | yes |
| 13:10.06 | Haohmaru | sda1 sounds like a partition of sda |
| 13:10.09 | RoyK | no_usb_dsk: is this a raspberry pi or something? |
| 13:10.24 | no_usb_dsk | no |
| 13:10.29 | no_usb_dsk | netbook |
| 13:10.32 | no_usb_dsk | asus |
| 13:10.39 | gpunk | what DE are you using ? |
| 13:10.42 | RoyK | anyway - usb storage show up as scsi devices in linux |
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| 13:10.46 | no_usb_dsk | xmonad |
| 13:10.49 | no_usb_dsk | FTW |
| 13:11.06 | gpunk | the device is recongnised fine |
| 13:11.14 | no_usb_dsk | tiling all the way baby |
| 13:11.15 | gpunk | but your DE dosnt show it |
| 13:11.21 | no_usb_dsk | yeah i didint thnk it would be sda.. |
| 13:11.23 | gpunk | you need to mount it manually |
| 13:11.24 | no_usb_dsk | yup |
| 13:12.34 | no_usb_dsk | so how do i cpy .iso to usb too boot from it? |
| 13:12.39 | no_usb_dsk | cp .iso /dev/sda |
| 13:12.41 | no_usb_dsk | ? |
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| 13:12.57 | RoyK | no_usb_dsk: a debian iso, yes |
| 13:13.01 | Haohmaru | i personally use dd |
| 13:13.21 | no_usb_dsk | ok |
| 13:13.25 | RoyK | yeah - dd if=blah.iso of=/dev/DEV bs=1M |
| 13:13.27 | no_usb_dsk | got to recuse other machine now |
| 13:13.32 | no_usb_dsk | rescue |
| 13:13.40 | no_usb_dsk | ill try cp first then that |
| 13:13.40 | gpunk | 4M is usually faster :) |
| 13:13.41 | Haohmaru | dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=32K conv=sync |
| 13:13.45 | RoyK | yeah - dd if=blah.iso of=/dev/DEV bs=4M oflag=sync |
| 13:14.03 | RoyK | Haohmaru: oflag, not conv, iirc |
| 13:14.18 | no_usb_dsk | ok people stroke stallmans beard or something i need all the luck i can gt |
| 13:14.21 | Haohmaru | i also like status=progress but the dd version in debian doesn't seem to have it |
| 13:14.32 | Haohmaru | RoyK i've not heard of "oflag" |
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| 13:14.57 | RoyK | Haohmaru: read the friendly manual ;) |
| 13:14.57 | colo-work | in stretch, it does |
| 13:15.13 | gpunk | yes |
| 13:15.30 | Haohmaru | hm, then i must have not used dd in debian9 yet |
| 13:15.31 | RoyK | or you can use pv if status=progress isn't supported |
| 13:16.00 | Haohmaru | but i've always used the "conv=sync" part *shrug* |
| 13:16.04 | no_usb_dsk | worked |
| 13:16.47 | kopper | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.50 | kopper | duh |
| 13:16.59 | kopper | Maybe omit the space |
| 13:17.09 | RoyK | kopper: should work ;) |
| 13:17.21 | kopper | It did :| |
| 13:17.27 | Haohmaru | don't you need an argument for it ;P~ |
| 13:17.33 | Haohmaru | /names #channel |
| 13:17.38 | kopper | Nope |
| 13:17.56 | Haohmaru | then you're cheating |
| 13:18.18 | RoyK | kopper: you know, 'kopper' in Norwegian means 'smallpox' ;) |
| 13:18.32 | kopper | Well now I do |
| 13:20.47 | RoyK | no_usb_dsk: 30GB disk? I didn't know they made anything that small anymore |
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| 13:28.09 | no_usb_dsk | it worked guys ty |
| 13:29.31 | fourhundred | I have installed aspell-en and aspell-de |
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| 13:29.49 | fourhundred | and now in my application, instead of having the choice between "de" or "en" for spellcheck, |
| 13:30.49 | fourhundred | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.01 | fourhundred | de, de_AT, de_CH, de_DE |
| 13:31.02 | fourhundred | en, en_AU, en_CA, en_GB, en_US |
| 13:31.31 | fourhundred | how can I hide the dialects that I don't need ? |
| 13:32.26 | fourhundred | otherwise, the list is too long |
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| 13:33.05 | no_usb_dsk | RoyK: netbook |
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| 13:54.35 | gnitpole | Are tor linux source stable builds on different mirrors or ony on torproject.org? being blocked off in public wifi |
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| 14:04.34 | tw | there is a tor package is in the debian repository. |
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| 14:04.54 | at0m | ,v tor |
| 14:04.55 | judd | Package: tor on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.2.4.27-1; wheezy-security: 0.2.4.29-1; jessie: 0.2.5.14-1; jessie-security: 0.2.5.14-1; jessie-backports: 0.2.9.11-1~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.2.9.11-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 0.2.9.11-1~deb9u1; buster: 0.3.0.10-1; sid: 0.3.1.7-1; experimental: 0.3.2.1-alpha-1 |
| 14:05.07 | at0m | gnitpole: ^ |
| 14:05.38 | gnitpole | at0m: Looking for the actual latest stable, not the outdated debian ones |
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| 14:06.18 | gnitpole | also I need to run it on armhf |
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| 14:10.18 | sypher | Is there a reason why the Debian versions won't work? |
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| 14:12.02 | dontknow | sypher, what do you mean? |
| 14:12.06 | Tybor2 | I'm installing debian 9 with LVM and /home /var /tmp separate partitions. How to change size of lv-home and lv-var ? |
| 14:12.27 | sypher | gnitpole's tor question. Is there a particular need that the Debian versions don't satisfy? |
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| 14:18.00 | at0m | gnitpole: same versions for arm. running it on my rpi. |
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| 14:24.19 | gnitpole | sypher: at0m is armel debian meant for rpi3 , |
| 14:24.38 | gnitpole | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:25.03 | goiken | I forgot how one does prepare a bootstick⦠do you cp the *.iso to /dev/sdc or to /dev/sdc1 ? |
| 14:25.43 | jelly | gnitpole: armhf userspace works on rpi3. amd64 ought to probably work as well, but sure if it's worth the trouble. |
| 14:25.45 | dontknow | how can i log out the current session from tty? |
| 14:25.46 | jelly | arm64* |
| 14:26.03 | jelly | and not* sure |
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| 14:26.54 | gnitpole | goiken: usually dd is used, you unmount the device and dd the input file to /dev/sdc |
| 14:27.13 | goiken | gnitpole ok, thx. |
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| 14:27.34 | gnitpole | goiken: I recommend "sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdc && sudo sync" |
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| 14:28.22 | sypher | cp works just fine. |
| 14:28.23 | jelly | goiken: cp blah.iso /dev/sdc; sync |
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| 14:28.49 | jelly | no reason to use dd or mess with block sizes manually |
| 14:28.58 | goiken | I went for dd without bs⦠|
| 14:29.07 | jelly | goiken: that's the worst option |
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| 14:29.43 | goiken | so I kill that process format again and go with cp? |
| 14:29.46 | jelly | yes |
| 14:30.01 | jelly | no need to format anything |
| 14:30.49 | gnitpole | also no need to kill if you're already using dd (isn't dd faster at 4M bs anyway?) :^) |
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| 14:33.26 | sypher | cp is the recommended solution because it works and it's simple. Please don't overcomplicate matters. |
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| 14:35.31 | gnitpole | sypher: https://wiki.debian.org/DiskImage#A.iso if it's recommended why is dd used in Debian's wiki howtos ? |
| 14:36.12 | apollo13 | because noone bothered fixing it :) |
| 14:36.16 | jelly | gnitpole: yes need to kill, because they forgot bs and that can make a cheap stick very unhappy |
| 14:36.23 | tw | and also because it's gnucoreutils specific. |
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| 14:36.51 | sypher | gnitpole: Because that's the generic "how to write a random ISO." |
| 14:36.53 | sypher | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 14:40.51 | gnitpole | What's the concurrent bs of cp anyway? |
| 14:41.16 | TeslasMHD | Hey @ all |
| 14:42.12 | gnitpole | jelly: ha, that reminds me of the time someone gifted me a sandisk from 2012, some sticks of that time had trouble with flags etc so they could not be booted from :-( |
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| 14:48.06 | jelly | cp figures it out on its own |
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| 14:48.18 | jelly | I _think_ it defaults to 32KiB |
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| 14:49.22 | gnitpole | jelly: I have no idea man but the guys at gnu are saying it slowly creeps up https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/coreutils/2015-04/msg00001.html |
| 14:49.35 | SerajewelKS | is there any reason why audio through pulseaudio would be just pops and play like 2x as fast, unless pavucontrol is open? |
| 14:49.39 | jelly | right, that thing |
| 14:49.48 | SerajewelKS | i have no idea why having pavucontrol open should fix any issues at all |
| 14:50.08 | nkuttler | another fix is to uninstall pa.. |
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| 14:50.44 | SerajewelKS | oddly enough, i have some linux games that have more issues with alsa than with PA |
| 14:50.53 | SerajewelKS | half my system prefers alsa, half prefers PA |
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| 14:55.05 | tw | gnitpole: too big is okay for flash. |
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| 14:57.49 | gnitpole | SerajewelKS: you can make a bash script for every game that prefers the audio controller you don't generally use to stop the one you do use and use that one instead |
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| 14:58.58 | at0m | jelly: no 64bit kernel for rpi3 - yet |
| 14:59.16 | at0m | so armhf it is for all the rpi models |
| 14:59.27 | at0m | gnitpole: if you're on raspbian, #raspbian |
| 14:59.54 | at0m | *for all the rpi models except rpi1, iirc |
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| 15:10.21 | jelly | at0m: SoC from rpi1 and 2 do not support debian's armhf userspace. This is basically why raspbian exists in the first place |
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| 15:34.40 | oboon | hi, i've some trouble with grub. When i turn on the notebook, it's always windows to start. |
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| 15:41.09 | FullmetalSora | Hello, how do i uninstall "KDE Plasma Desktop" task (see link) and everything it installed ? https://wiki.debian.org/KDE#task |
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| 15:43.23 | tw | FullmetalSora: run tasksel again. |
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| 15:44.44 | FullmetalSora | ok tw and what do i do in tasksel ? (I installed it with aptitude) |
| 15:44.56 | FullmetalSora | I mean I installed kde with aptitude not tasksel |
| 15:45.21 | tw | oh, you did, and not through the task? If you uninstall the package by name, the dependencies will generally go with it. |
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| 15:50.07 | FullmetalSora | tw, I don't think it will remove all the apps such as Kmail,Korganizer,... Is there a command to remove everything it installed with it not just dependencies ? By the way it is the last package I installed if that can help. https://pastebin.com/MandjKvs |
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| 15:53.10 | MR-HOMO1 | hiya |
| 15:54.40 | tw | FullmetalSora: It should fan out properly and be available for autoremove. |
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| 15:54.56 | tw | They're not marked as manually installed unless you told it to. |
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| 15:56.33 | FullmetalSora | tw, I answered yes, it removed the 14 packages listed but not the kde apps and the autoremove doesn't seems to work. I did it with apt-get because I don't know how to do it with aptitude https://pastebin.com/QviUe1Sc |
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| 16:05.29 | tw | FullmetalSora: may have to search apt/history.log to see what was installed at that time. |
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| 16:08.37 | jhutchins_wk | !remove kde |
| 16:08.37 | dpkg | To remove or purge KDE: aptitude remove kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data libkdecore5. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>). |
| 16:09.15 | jhutchins_wk | FullmetalSora: aptitude takes the same commands as apt-get, mostly it's just a different resolver engine for dependencies. |
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| 16:10.50 | FullmetalSora | I already purged and removed KDE jhutchins_wk , now I want to remove all the apps it installed with. I found a complete list where tw told me (apt/history.log) and here it is. We can see that everything KDE installed is marked as "automatic" https://pastebin.com/jTJbdrKe |
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| 16:16.10 | SerajewelKS | FullmetalSora: apt-get removeauto? |
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| 16:17.06 | FullmetalSora | autoremove doesn't remove the apps SerajewelKS |
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| 16:18.46 | SerajewelKS | FullmetalSora: then something else installed has a dependency on them |
| 16:19.00 | SerajewelKS | FullmetalSora: you should be able to use aptitude's UI to figure out what |
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| 16:21.35 | FullmetalSora | SerajewelKS, I found a kde entry in the installed package menu in the gui containing 88 packages ! Can I remove it safely if I don't want kde anymore ? If yes, how do i remove the whole entry in the gui ? |
| 16:23.57 | goiken2 | Hi⦠Having some trouble now configuring the wifi on a Lenovo E470. I tried `inxi -Fxz` during troubleshooting and it seems like one network card didn't setup automatically. |
| 16:24.24 | goiken2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.24 | goiken2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.34 | dka | Hi, I have a smartphone "Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+" connected to my OS "Debian 9" |
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| 16:34.49 | guardian | is there a command I can run to assert the mysql user can access some files in a specific directory? |
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| 16:34.54 | guardian | trying with su but failing |
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| 16:37.02 | guardian | nevermind |
| 16:37.23 | cluelessperson | can someone tell me why this might be failing as a cron job? |
| 16:37.26 | cluelessperson | @hourly root /usr/bin/ansible-playbook /backups/scripts/network_backups.yml > "/backups/logs/`date +%Y%m%dT%H%M%S`_network_backups.log" |
| 16:37.37 | cluelessperson | maybe it's something to do with the `command` in the string? |
| 16:38.40 | jhutchins_wk | gonyere: Sounds like you need firmware. |
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| 16:40.54 | jhutchins_wk | goiken: Sounds like you need firmware. |
| 16:42.29 | jhutchins_wk | goiken: If you do lspci -nn you should get the pciid of the card, we can query judd for what it requires. |
| 16:42.32 | petn-randall | cluelessperson: The backticks are bash syntax, so you'll have to pass that line to a shell. |
| 16:42.33 | FullmetalSora | Never mind SerajewelKS i figured it out with the gui and it removed everything I wanted ! Thank you and everyone who helped :) |
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| 16:45.36 | jhutchins_wk | cluelessperson: Which crontab did you put that in? |
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| 16:46.33 | cluelessperson | jhutchins_wk: /etc/cron.d/file |
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| 16:47.12 | cluelessperson | jhutchins_wk: I suspected that, sounds like the likely cause |
| 16:48.04 | jelly | gives cluelessperson a "date -Is" command |
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| 16:52.04 | cluelessperson | jelly: thanks, but unfortunately that's not the iso format I want. :P |
| 16:52.27 | cluelessperson | I don't understand this error |
| 16:52.37 | cluelessperson | Sep 22 11:51:02 backup cron[19278]: (*system*backups) ERROR (Syntax error, this crontab file will be ignored) |
| 16:53.10 | cluelessperson | https://hastebin.com/raw/uqegusivec |
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| 16:53.24 | cluelessperson | just contains: 0/5 0 * * * root "/bin/bash /backups/scripts/run.sh" |
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| 16:56.00 | nkuttler | cluelessperson: crontab -u backup -e |
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| 16:56.34 | cluelessperson | nkuttler: that's not a user |
| 16:57.09 | nkuttler | then whichever user it is. or crontab <file> |
| 16:57.26 | nkuttler | anyway, just edit it with crontab |
| 16:57.32 | nkuttler | crontab file would load that file, don't do that |
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| 17:11.48 | jelly | cluelessperson: what is the path to that crontab file again? |
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| 17:16.27 | jelly | cluelessperson: if it's still something in /etc/cron.d/ then do NOT use crontab on it |
| 17:16.52 | jelly | just remove the doublequotes. |
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| 17:17.56 | jelly | cluelessperson: it it's something in a user's crontab, then the 6th column is not user, but the command, remove the " root " bit. And again get rid of doublequotes. |
| 17:18.09 | jelly | also |
| 17:18.29 | jelly | 0/5 probably does not mean want you want it to mean. It's the same thing as 0 |
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| 17:19.03 | jelly | */5 in the minute column, however, is the same as 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 |
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| 17:23.42 | joan_ | Hi everyone. Tracker-needle packet has disappeared... |
| 17:23.58 | joan_ | Anyone knows the reason and when will be available again? |
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| 17:24.40 | petn-randall | joan_: What is the exact name? There's never been a packages called "tracker-needle". |
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| 17:25.32 | joan_ | Ok, I think the packet is called tracker-gui |
| 17:26.00 | petn-randall | ,v tracker-gui |
| 17:26.02 | judd | Package: tracker-gui on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.14.1-3; jessie: 1.2.4-2; stretch: 1.10.5-1 |
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| 17:26.05 | joan_ | Without this packet I don't have any graphical interface to do semantic search |
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| 17:26.12 | joan_ | I use debian testing... |
| 17:26.28 | joan_ | The packet from stretch doesn't work for dependancy issues |
| 17:26.45 | joan_ | you can check this link |
| 17:26.46 | joan_ | https://packages.debian.org/sid/gnome/tracker-gui |
| 17:26.54 | joan_ | Packet doesn't exists |
| 17:26.59 | petn-randall | dpkg: why is tracker-gui not in testing |
| 17:26.59 | dpkg | tracker-gui is not in testing for the reasons listed in https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=tracker-gui |
| 17:27.57 | joan_ | this URL doesn't say anything |
| 17:27.59 | petn-randall | joan_: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/t/tracker/unstable_changelog |
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| 17:28.25 | petn-randall | joan_: The changelog for 1.99.1-1 says: * Drop tracker-gui |
| 17:29.11 | joan_ | Ok, then I'll proceed to uninstall tracker.,.. |
| 17:29.15 | petn-randall | joan_: Maybe the gui in now just in 'tracker'? |
| 17:29.40 | joan_ | No, currently there isn't any gui for tracker |
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| 17:31.06 | petn-randall | joan_: Poke the maintainer, they'll know why it was removed. |
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| 17:32.08 | joan_ | this another nonse thing that gnome team do.. |
| 17:32.15 | joan_ | nonsense... |
| 17:32.33 | joan_ | I will move to KDE... |
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| 17:33.21 | petn-randall | joan_: I would assume it might have been removed temporarily to ease some library transition, but whatever floats your boat. |
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| 17:34.01 | petn-randall | joan_: If you just want to work, use stable. Using testing/sid you willingly accept that things get removed, break, or get moved without warning. |
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| 17:34.11 | joan_ | I will send an email to Biebl... |
| 17:34.22 | joan_ | let's see if he has the patience to reply |
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| 17:34.41 | petn-randall | joan_: Or file a bug, that way other people will know about it, too. |
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| 17:34.50 | joan_ | If it's like you say I must accept it. |
| 17:34.54 | joan_ | and wait |
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| 17:36.00 | joan_ | If not move to KDE is a good option |
| 17:36.15 | johnkeates | is kde _ever_ an option xD |
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| 17:36.53 | SerajewelKS | yes, particularly compared to GNOME 3 |
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| 17:37.05 | joan_ | Gnome sucks... But I use it |
| 17:37.08 | petn-randall | personally doesn't like either. |
| 17:37.13 | SerajewelKS | but perhaps a better option is neither GNOME nor KDE |
| 17:37.25 | jelly | at least kde can be configured to work the way I like it |
| 17:37.27 | johnkeates | KDE is just as bad as windows |
| 17:37.54 | joan_ | KDE doesn't have privacy problems |
| 17:37.54 | johnkeates | anyway, it's probably a matter of preference |
| 17:38.07 | SerajewelKS | KDE has too many options, GNOME has too few... |
| 17:38.11 | joan_ | and works smoother |
| 17:38.24 | johnkeates | KDE doesn't work and privacy problems are distro-specific |
| 17:38.39 | johnkeates | we can go on and on about this :p no point in doing that |
| 17:38.40 | joan_ | KDE doesn't work? I don't think so... |
| 17:38.44 | johnkeates | i do think so |
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| 17:39.21 | joan_ | Which desltop do you use if KDE doesn't work? |
| 17:39.26 | johnkeates | gnome |
| 17:39.32 | SerajewelKS | i have more problems with sound and opengl these days than i have with a specific DE |
| 17:39.34 | johnkeates | gnome works great |
| 17:39.47 | joan_ | for me Gnome sucks.. |
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| 17:39.51 | simbalion | Hi, is there a package for gwibber (aka "friends")? |
| 17:40.17 | johnkeates | apt-cache search gwibber |
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| 17:40.41 | joan_ | listen that beatiful song |
| 17:40.42 | joan_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnol0d0Qth4 |
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| 17:40.49 | _rubik | Hey all. For some odd reason when connecting to a vpn via nmtui, I am not prompted for a password which just kicks out an "invalid secrets error". Could this be a missing package? |
| 17:41.06 | johnkeates | talk about privacy and then link to a google site? :p |
| 17:41.11 | johnkeates | the irony |
| 17:41.24 | joan_ | :D |
| 17:41.30 | johnkeates | ;-) |
| 17:41.30 | joan_ | Gnome sucks... :D |
| 17:41.49 | joan_ | Google is my friend. |
| 17:41.52 | jelly | ,i tracker-gui |
| 17:41.53 | judd | Package tracker-gui (gnome, optional) in stretch/amd64: metadata database, indexer and search tool - GNOME frontends. Version: 1.10.5-1; Size: 486.7k; Installed: 923k; Homepage: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Tracker; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/tracker-gui |
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| 17:42.06 | jelly | joan_: what does that thing actually do? |
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| 17:42.50 | joan_ | jelly: It's a graphical interface to search archives by the content that have inside |
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| 17:43.42 | joan_ | Also the graphical interface to config tracker has been removed |
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| 17:46.41 | johnkeates | it's still sad that Google Desktop worked better than all of the search/tracking systems so far |
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| 17:46.55 | johnkeates | on windows, the microsoft search thing sucks too |
| 17:47.14 | johnkeates | on macOS, spotlight works really well, so that's nice, but useless if you are on any other platform |
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| 17:47.52 | jelly | KDE's nepomuk is one of the things I disable right awa |
| 17:48.20 | joan_ | Google desktop was great... |
| 17:48.48 | eck | it wasn't that great |
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| 17:49.03 | johnkeates | but it was greater than whatever KDE/GNOME/GNU spawned so far |
| 17:49.12 | joan_ | At least worked... Tracker has so many performance issues |
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| 18:04.51 | realbadhorse | is it possible to list all my installed packages by size? |
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| 18:05.57 | dondelelcaro | realbadhorse: dpigs in debian-goodies can do that for you |
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| 18:11.32 | cluelessperson | I don't understand why my cron job isn't working |
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| 18:12.11 | abrotman | !details |
| 18:12.12 | dpkg | If you want help on a topic, you HAVE to say more than "it doesn't work, help!" or else you'll get no help whatsoever. Give as many details as you can or else no one can give any suggestions. For most questions, you should at least give your arch (amd64 for most people), your Debian <version>, and your kernel version. Give exact error messages where applicable. |
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| 18:12.59 | cluelessperson | I have this line in /etc/cron.d/file |
| 18:13.02 | cluelessperson | */5 * * * * root "/bin/bash /backups/scripts/run.sh" |
| 18:13.33 | cluelessperson | which leads to this file: /usr/bin/ansible-playbook /backups/scripts/network_backups.yml > "/backups/logs/`date +%Y%m%dT%H%M%S`_network_backups.log" |
| 18:13.48 | cluelessperson | For some reason, it doesn't seem to run |
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| 18:15.05 | `Kevin | cluelessperson: what are the permissions on the file |
| 18:15.30 | cluelessperson | `Kevin: 777 (for now) |
| 18:15.30 | `Kevin | also |
| 18:15.35 | `Kevin | why do you have " " |
| 18:15.37 | `Kevin | remove the " " |
| 18:15.48 | `Kevin | cron.d files iirc have to be owned by root:root |
| 18:15.53 | `Kevin | and writable only by root |
| 18:16.16 | `Kevin | so do 644 |
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| 18:17.22 | cluelessperson | `Kevin: looks like the cron.d file is 644, but I set it to be sure. :) |
| 18:18.25 | abrotman | cluelessperson: any hints in /var/log/cron ? |
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| 18:22.53 | nnyby | how do i install docker in debian testing? dockers instructions dont work |
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| 18:23.25 | mefistofeles | nnyby: I installed it using the docker instructions but in debian stable |
| 18:23.31 | mefistofeles | nnyby: do you get any errors? |
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| 18:23.45 | cluelessperson | abrotman: there is no /var/log/cron but there's mentions in /var/log/syslog |
| 18:24.05 | cluelessperson | Sep 22 13:20:01 backup CRON[19830]: (root) CMD (/bin/bash /backups/scripts/run.sh) |
| 18:24.15 | nnyby | yeah i get a 404 can't find package error |
| 18:24.34 | cluelessperson | and... it seems to hvae just run |
| 18:24.36 | cluelessperson | for the first time |
| 18:24.41 | cluelessperson | by itself? |
| 18:24.41 | mefistofeles | nnyby: https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/docker-ce/debian/ are you referring to these instructions? |
| 18:24.53 | cluelessperson | .. waits 15 seconds for the next run |
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| 18:25.12 | cluelessperson | it's working. :D |
| 18:25.12 | nnyby | because the source directory for buster doesn't exist on docker's server |
| 18:25.13 | nnyby | yeah |
| 18:25.49 | mefistofeles | nnyby: oh ok... I guess you could install the debian stable version then |
| 18:25.50 | nnyby | e.g.: https://download.docker.com/linux/debian/dists/ |
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| 18:26.28 | mefistofeles | nnyby: but yeah, you would have to change some things in those instructions |
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| 19:23.36 | at0m | jelly: i'm using armhf debian repo's on my rpi2's. just the rpi1 isn't armhf, the others are. |
| 19:24.32 | at0m | jelly: raspbian repo for kernel, debian repo's for everything else |
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| 19:42.05 | brandon76 | hello |
| 19:42.44 | Vizva | if i open something in /etc/crypttab with a keyfile it should be open and create a /dev/mapper/X like i open with luksOpen ?! |
| 19:45.02 | GNU\colossus | Vizva, if the entry doesn't have "noauto" in the options column, then yes, it should |
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| 19:46.21 | Vizva | i did create 2 similiar open with /etc/keyfile but the new 2 dont come in blkid |
| 19:47.21 | Vizva | i think i create them again with another cryptsetup command |
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| 19:48.20 | Vizva | maybe its because i did delete and create again using the same keyfile |
| 19:48.29 | Vizva | i will create a new keyfile too |
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| 19:52.39 | Phantast | hi everyone |
| 19:52.52 | format_c | Hi Phantast |
| 19:52.54 | Phantast | did anyone know about multiseat? |
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| 19:53.30 | jhutchins_wk | Phantast: Pretty broad topic. |
| 19:53.35 | jhutchins_wk | !ask |
| 19:53.35 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 19:53.46 | jhutchins_wk | Phantast: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
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| 19:54.40 | Phantast | well.. I'm trying to multiseat with integrated graphics, nvidia (bumblebee) and intel |
| 19:55.09 | jhutchins_wk | Phantast: Trying to use the two GPUs for two workstations? |
| 19:55.44 | Phantast | yes |
| 19:55.58 | Phantast | but it is a laptop |
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| 19:56.24 | jhutchins_wk | I don't think that will work, I think the system shares some of the graphical components and I don't think you can run both at once. |
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| 19:57.01 | Phantast | I'm not sure either |
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| 19:58.07 | Phantast | I thought that there were 2 GPU |
| 19:58.53 | jhutchins_wk | Phantast: The intent is to switch to the intel chipset to save power when you don't need the nvidia features. |
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| 20:02.07 | Phantast | not sure but maybe there is a way to switch nvidia to always on |
| 20:02.30 | at0m | there's a way to bumblebee the whole DE, though. maybe another seat can run on the intel gfx, i don't know |
| 20:03.05 | at0m | say, "optirun startx" or something of the like |
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| 20:05.13 | Phantast | the problem is that I can't find the correct address to the nvidia card in the /sys folder or in the output of loginctl seat-status seat0 |
| 20:05.54 | at0m | not unless optirun/bumblebee addresses it, i guess |
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| 20:06.48 | Phantast | could be |
| 20:07.59 | Phantast | but I don't know how bumblebee could do it |
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| 20:13.48 | Phantast | well.. I tried to "optrun bash" and after that "loginctl seat-status seat0" but I was unable to identify the nvidia card |
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| 20:19.06 | hldincher | hi |
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| 20:19.22 | format_c | hi |
| 20:19.26 | hldincher | can someone explain this irc |
| 20:19.29 | hldincher | Im new |
| 20:19.35 | eck | yeah |
| 20:19.37 | eck | you talk in it |
| 20:19.39 | eck | and people talk back |
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| 20:20.03 | format_c | It's like a multiplayer notepad |
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| 20:20.39 | hldincher | Ok but how can i set my nickname |
| 20:20.50 | hldincher | Or what is server what is channel ? |
| 20:20.56 | at0m | /nick newnick |
| 20:20.57 | hldincher | What is the difference |
| 20:20.57 | jhutchins_wk | Phantast: You're not the only one to try this, but I don't think anybody's succeeded. |
| 20:21.23 | jhutchins_wk | !irc |
| 20:21.24 | dpkg | IRC is Internet Relay Chat, the means to provide #debian to its patrons. Debian IRC channels are listed at http://wiki.debian.org/IRC . Please read http://wiki.debian.org/GettingHelpOnIrc . Ask me about <irc tutorial> and <faq>. See also <debstats> and <irclog>. |
| 20:21.27 | format_c | hldincher, you're in. Don't care which server you use. It's a network of servers. it's designed that way. |
| 20:21.49 | hldincher | at0m if i change my nick with this |
| 20:21.53 | jhutchins_wk | hldincher: /msg dpkg <factoid> to get help. |
| 20:21.54 | hldincher | Is it working on everywhere |
| 20:22.00 | hldincher | Or just for #debian |
| 20:22.04 | Vizva | i have error mdadm no arrays found in config file - is there a command that can show me mdadm arrys whats in use? |
| 20:22.20 | format_c | hldincher, it changes for the hole server |
| 20:22.22 | jhutchins_wk | hldincher: It will change for all channels on the freenode network. |
| 20:22.23 | format_c | whole |
| 20:22.31 | at0m | hldincher: how about you look up "irc beginner". this channel is for debian support |
| 20:22.34 | jhutchins_wk | hldincher: One nick per network. |
| 20:22.46 | hldincher | Ohh thanks for help |
| 20:22.58 | hldincher | at0m i wasnt know that sorry |
| 20:23.04 | at0m | no problem |
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| 20:23.21 | jhutchins_wk | hldincher: It's cool, how to use irc is part of how to get help here, that's why we have the bot factoids. |
| 20:23.47 | jhutchins_wk | hldincher: On most irc clients, if you type the first few letters of a nic then press tab it will autocomplete. |
| 20:24.02 | jhutchins_wk | (Sometimes it will autocomplete wrong.) |
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| 20:25.01 | hldincher | :D thx again |
| 20:25.56 | jhutchins_wk | hldincher: There are many (hundreds?) of networks, literally thousands of channels on each network. Any subject on the internet is on IRC somewhere. |
| 20:26.02 | hldincher | Also i wanna ask |
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| 20:26.07 | hldincher | Does anyone use debian with i3? |
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| 20:26.58 | jhutchins_wk | !ask |
| 20:26.58 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 20:27.40 | jhutchins_wk | hldincher: Yes, people use most intel and amd chipsets; Debian is also compiled for a lot of other architectures (arm, ppc). |
| 20:27.53 | Phantast | jhutchins_wk: I know that someone dit with an integrated graphics (Intel) and a dedicated videocard (Nvidia) but I'm almost sure that was a desktop (without bumblebee) |
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| 20:29.28 | jhutchins_wk | Phantast: Yeah, that's the more common way to do it. |
| 20:29.56 | jhutchins_wk | Phantast: That or two discreet cards. |
| 20:30.24 | n4dir | jhutchins_wk: i am not sure, but i think the times of ppc are gone (as far debian is concerned). |
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| 20:32.21 | at0m | https://wiki.debian.org/SupportedArchitectures |
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| 20:32.55 | at0m | tl;dr ppc is still in |
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| 20:33.42 | jhutchins_wk | n4dir: PPC is more than just macs. |
| 20:34.29 | Vizva | i delete mdadm and all things about this help me now i tsart again play on zfs |
| 20:35.58 | Phantast | which is the command to send someone a message through the channel? |
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| 20:36.50 | greycat | Depends on your client. Try /help or /msg. |
| 20:37.23 | n4dir | at0m: well, that is what i have heard, and i can't find a ppc architecture here: https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 20:37.41 | n4dir | though i am not that sure what ppc64el might be. |
| 20:37.53 | at0m | 64bit ppc? |
| 20:38.22 | n4dir | i once investigated it, but forgot the result. |
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| 20:39.31 | at0m | https://wiki.debian.org/ppc64el#Required_Hardware - power8 req'd |
| 20:40.09 | n4dir | yeah, just found it too. |
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| 20:44.04 | phinxy | I installed a daily minimal iso and I am missing a few packages when i search with aptitude. Midori for example |
| 20:44.15 | phinxy | my sources.list includes contrib and non free |
| 20:44.23 | Sveta | ,v midori |
| 20:44.24 | judd | Package: midori on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.4.3+dfsg-0.1; jessie-backports: 0.5.11-ds1-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 0.5.11-ds1-4+b1 |
| 20:44.37 | Sveta | maybe apt-get update, try again? |
| 20:44.38 | greycat | phinxy: which version of Debian? |
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| 20:45.10 | Vizva | the devices are there but blkid dont show the all - is this normal? |
| 20:45.13 | phinxy | greycat, buster_ |
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| 20:45.30 | greycat | phinxy: well, judd says it's not in buster or sid or experimental. Better ask #debian-next on OFTC what happened to it. |
| 20:45.51 | phinxy | its on stretch |
| 20:45.51 | greycat | Not being in sid is a pretty good indicator it's been completely yanked from Debian, or the name has changed. |
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| 20:47.36 | DammitJim | I just did an lvextend by mistake on a partition that didn't need it |
| 20:47.41 | DammitJim | can I revert that? |
| 20:47.42 | phinxy | greycat: what is judd |
| 20:47.56 | greycat | The bot. Up a few lines. Did you not see the query and response? |
| 20:47.58 | DammitJim | with an lvreduce? |
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| 20:50.03 | phinxy | greycat: aha! I expected to have the same package list as stretch |
| 20:50.05 | n4dir | phinxy: with a grant of salt: i did never consider contrib or non-free to offer outstanding much other apps, main reason usually being wireless or graphic-card (or both). |
| 20:50.19 | greycat | ,v bash |
| 20:50.20 | judd | Package: bash on amd64 -- wheezy: 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u4; jessie: 4.3-11+deb8u1; buster: 4.4-5; sid: 4.4-5; stretch: 4.4-5 |
| 20:50.35 | greycat | for comparison, a package that is "fairy normal" |
| 20:51.24 | phinxy | lol |
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| 20:52.01 | phinxy | doesnt all linux distributions have bash by default, its part of GNU tools or where does it come from |
| 20:52.18 | greycat | It is part of the GNU toolset. |
| 20:52.32 | Nickname2 | Hi there, how do i store my last x-session ? ( open windows ) in order to reopen them on log in (gnome-terminal)... |
| 20:53.37 | n4dir | grml , the distribution, sure had a different shell as the login-shell (zsh?), but i would assume bash was installed too. |
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| 20:56.08 | Phantast | thank you guys for the answers |
| 20:56.11 | Phantast | bye |
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| 20:58.40 | mr_z0g | hi all. looking for some input/feedback on a new workstation i'm setting up. |
| 20:58.55 | mr_z0g | end goal is practical data security and flexibility |
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| 20:59.12 | mr_z0g | so - the question is LVM on LUKS or LUKS on LVM? |
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| 20:59.51 | mr_z0g | most things i'm finding on teh webs for this topic seem to only deal with single disk systems |
| 21:00.11 | phinxy | ,v urxvt |
| 21:00.12 | judd | No package named 'urxvt' was found in amd64. |
| 21:00.46 | greycat | the pkg is named rxvt-unicode |
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| 21:08.20 | Vizva | i did install zfs new and again the same error (mdadm no arrays found in config file- a)ll i did is create a zpool but later deleted this pool, how can i clean that? |
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| 21:12.29 | `Kevin | Vizva: what are you trying todo? |
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| 21:14.25 | Vizva | Kevin i did create zpool but delete it after because i need encrypted devices for that -now blkid dont show this devices but they are there and in have a error with installed mdadm |
| 21:15.31 | Vizva | looks like the mdadm array is still somewhere- it takes some time to boot up thats annoying |
| 21:15.54 | gena2x | I seems nvidia through primus broken in latest update. glxinfo showing proper info, but glxgears segfaults. Anybody has any problems with nvidia in latest unstable? |
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| 21:22.49 | at0m | !sid |
| 21:22.49 | dpkg | sid is, like, the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that when it breaks, you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 21:22.59 | at0m | !oftc |
| 21:22.59 | dpkg | OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. http://www.oftc.net/ See also <freenode>, <oftc move> and <fact sharing>. |
| 21:23.29 | at0m | gena2x: for sid, go to oftc^. not supported here on freenode. |
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| 21:24.35 | mefistofeles | at0m: really? |
| 21:24.51 | at0m | rly. |
| 21:24.54 | mefistofeles | is this like, official from #debian or just your opinion? |
| 21:25.03 | at0m | !testing |
| 21:25.03 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <buster>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting . Support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You need a sound knowledge of Debian and be prepared for a very bumpy ride. Don't use it on things that are critical! |
| 21:25.45 | gena2x | interesting |
| 21:26.26 | mefistofeles | I see |
| 21:26.30 | mefistofeles | that's strange |
| 21:27.10 | at0m | it's never been different. |
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| 21:28.56 | sebboh | Am I the only one that would rather trust no CA's at first and slowly build a list of ones I do trust as I go instead of installing a cacerts bundle? |
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| 21:29.19 | gena2x | cool, lot more debian channels at oftc |
| 21:29.24 | johnkeates | yes |
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| 21:29.30 | johnkeates | it's the cool kids irc network |
| 21:29.31 | kion42 | exit |
| 21:29.38 | johnkeates | kion42: no u |
| 21:29.39 | kion42 | sorry lol |
| 21:29.42 | johnkeates | :p |
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| 21:30.56 | gena2x | at0m: thanks |
| 21:30.56 | annadane | !chat |
| 21:30.56 | dpkg | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 21:31.57 | gena2x | well, internet relay chat channel which claims it is not chat channel. |
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| 21:34.45 | sebboh | The ca-certifcates package says "Please note that Debian can neither confirm nor deny whether the certificate authorities whose certificates are included in this package have in any way been audited for trustworthiness or RFC 3647 compliance. Full responsibility to assess them belongs to the local system administrator." Ok, so what is the "Debian way" to add trust per user? For example I'd like to use TLS to visit gist.github.com. |
| 21:34.46 | sebboh | I'd like to view the certificate from that site, not the CA from DigiCert.. and then mark that I trust it. And import it into some local list of trusted certs. Is there some common way to do this? |
| 21:35.13 | sebboh | The trust should be per user, not per machine. |
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| 21:41.23 | tunasalad | debian is boring. as is marriage. |
| 21:41.36 | tunasalad | should I divorce after 6 years> |
| 21:41.40 | johnkeates | salads are boring |
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| 21:42.14 | tunasalad | you're the kind of boring folk I tend to identify with |
| 21:42.26 | gena2x | you mean Debera marry Ian? |
| 21:42.40 | tunasalad | I mean like real life divorce |
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| 21:42.48 | annadane | !chat |
| 21:42.48 | dpkg | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net. |
| 21:42.49 | tunasalad | after real life 6 years |
| 21:43.16 | sebboh | well, I think I found something. `man update-ca-certificates` shows me how to untrust certs that come with the ca-certificates bundle. ...and https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/132163/34629 tells me how to add my own .crt. So, IFF I can grab a cert from a site (not a CA cert), and IFF I can import that as described, then that'll work for what I want. Except, machine wide, instead of per-user. Whatev. |
| 21:43.22 | tunasalad | oh god |
| 21:43.35 | tunasalad | I got three or so debians |
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| 21:43.52 | tunasalad | and I guess I could ask them questions |
| 21:44.00 | tunasalad | should I absolutely? |
| 21:44.22 | tunasalad | I mean I'm talking divorce |
| 21:44.38 | tunasalad | do we absolutely have to bring Debian into this |
| 21:45.25 | sebboh | tunasalad: it took me a few years to figure out that, just like real life, on IRC, some places it's OK to show up drunk, and some places it's not. And so can you! |
| 21:45.37 | tunasalad | I'm pretty much with you far as Debian goes |
| 21:45.43 | Vizva | debian is the best |
| 21:46.09 | tunasalad | sebboh you're implying that's not the place |
| 21:46.45 | Vizva | i know now why you have problems in your marriage - i am married more than 12 years and its not boring |
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| 21:47.13 | annadane | this is *not a chat channel*. |
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| 21:47.24 | tunasalad | I've been married for 6 years and it ain't ever been for love |
| 21:47.34 | annadane | go to #debian-offtopic |
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| 21:47.41 | tunasalad | that I will |
| 21:47.47 | bub_ | haha.. here it cums |
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| 22:01.37 | Fnatic | evening guys |
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| 22:02.13 | Fnatic | how do i change crontab to another one using mcedit now but want nano |
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| 22:03.11 | eventhorizon | Fnatic: you mean when you do a 'crontab -e'? |
| 22:03.19 | gena2x | export EDITOR=nano |
| 22:03.57 | Fnatic | eventhorizon > yeah sry my bad |
| 22:04.09 | ForceRecon | sorry to repeat this question I lost my link - where can I get the firmware for this error - bluetooth hci0: Direct firmware load for brcm/BCM20702A1-13d3-3404.hcd failed with error -2 |
| 22:04.44 | Fnatic | gena2x thx it worked :) |
| 22:04.51 | gena2x | you welcome |
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| 22:08.05 | TypesWithForks | Hey! Does anywho here know the bare minimum needed for debian to run correctly? |
| 22:08.20 | eventhorizon | ForceRecon: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/359979/broadcom-bcm4352-bluetooth-does-not-connect |
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| 22:09.43 | gena2x | TypesWithForks: bare minimum of what? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/arm64/ch03s04.html.en |
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| 22:10.39 | sebboh | my idea about grabbing a cert from a host and trusting just that isn't .. making sense. Just FYI, my last message about TLS was probably nonsense. |
| 22:12.25 | gena2x | TypesWithForks, for x86 https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s05.html.en |
| 22:12.46 | ForceRecon | eventhorizon: thanks I have it bookmarked again.. appreciated |
| 22:14.35 | TypesWithForks | Oh I was referring to the bare minimum for it to work. Like I know these are a bunch of modules that aren't neccesary. But I don't know the main pieces that keeps debian running fine. Like if I were still running Windows I'd be able to rip off a bunch of things, but I know what I shouldn't that'd cause a crash. |
| 22:14.35 | Fnatic | what is best to run debian server with none screen or screen ? using none screen by myself |
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| 22:15.16 | johnkeates | sebboh: it's called key pinning |
| 22:15.34 | TypesWithForks | Fnatic. You can run headless if you want and connect to it over TCP, if that suits your needs. |
| 22:15.51 | TypesWithForks | It'll save power it some situations. |
| 22:15.54 | johnkeates | TypesWithForks: install debian and select nothing extra, you'll end up with the minimum |
| 22:16.14 | TypesWithForks | o.o Thanks! |
| 22:16.21 | johnkeates | TypesWithForks: if you want to have even smaller systems, you can debootstrap i think and that'll be one or two packages less |
| 22:16.43 | johnkeates | debian with nothing installed is only a few 100 mb's so it's not really big anyway |
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| 22:17.20 | Fnatic | tryed ubuntu screen and dident like it thats why i use debian headless :) |
| 22:17.22 | johnkeates | i suppose you could remove networking completely, it won't same much disk space, ram, cpu cycles or packages, but it's not strictly needed... |
| 22:17.38 | TypesWithForks | ._____. My main goal is to try to save memory. I'm running on a small hard drive atm. XD AHHH. Can't do without the internet. |
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| 22:18.22 | johnkeates | well, i don't think you can save much more without resorting to embedded installs |
| 22:18.29 | johnkeates | like tinycore |
| 22:18.33 | johnkeates | or openwrt |
| 22:18.35 | johnkeates | but that's not debian |
| 22:18.56 | johnkeates | most systems that are super small are no longer self-hosting and no longer support anything dynamic (all to save space and memory) |
| 22:19.45 | Fnatic | dev/sda2 234G 1.4G 221G 1% / not much for a server :P |
| 22:20.16 | johnkeates | for example, one of our template HAProxy Debian virtual machines is 900MB and uses 450MB RAM under full load |
| 22:20.21 | TypesWithForks | Wow. I don't think I need to go that small I'll take your first solution and try to study it. I want to understand a bit more about system administration this year. |
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| 22:20.59 | johnkeates | and the only thing that really uses much ram on that box is the saltstack minion client because it's python based :p |
| 22:21.15 | johnkeates | if we were to remove configuration management completely it would run on less than 250MB RAM |
| 22:21.36 | johnkeates | if you want to learn more about small debian installs, check out the base system and debootstrap |
| 22:21.57 | ForceRecon | eventhorizon: good movie.. any chance I could query with you |
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| 22:22.49 | johnkeates | also, to understand how the system works from bootloader to prompt, check out the default chain (grub2 -> linux kernel -> systemd as init -> tty -> bash, and check run levels/multiuser stage for the services that'll run at that point) |
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| 22:33.57 | sebboh | johnkeates: I don't think so. But the 'key pinning' lead me to "TOFU", "trust on first use", which is what I want to do. |
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| 22:39.55 | tunasalad | I don't think ta |
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| 22:40.25 | tunasalad | that's what TOFU stads for |
| 22:40.47 | tunasalad | neither did I think I was a stand-in for a woman |
| 22:40.47 | tw | it is for certificates and keys. |
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| 22:41.38 | tunasalad | 30's hollywood was pretty much fuke |
| 22:41.41 | tunasalad | fuk |
| 22:41.46 | tunasalad | fucked u |
| 22:41.48 | tunasalad | p |
| 22:41.50 | johnkeates | sebboh: key pinning means you record the public key for a certificate that is used by a server you trust so that you will control what certificates you trust, regardless of CA |
| 22:42.28 | tunasalad | the fucking keys werent't all there |
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| 22:43.11 | tunasalad | so if you see a prentious writer insisting on a 30s' typwriter |
| 22:43.14 | nchambers | johnkeates: are you talking about HPKP? |
| 22:43.16 | tunasalad | he's a fucking ii |
| 22:43.22 | tunasalad | idiot |
| 22:43.44 | johnkeates | nchambers: not specifically but that is an implementation, just like ~/.ssh/known_hosts is |
| 22:44.00 | tunasalad | the typewriters have been shit |
| 22:44.12 | nchambers | johnkeates: ah |
| 22:44.38 | nchambers | I'd never considered known_hosts as pkp, but I guess thats exactly what its doing |
| 22:44.39 | nchambers | enat |
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| 22:45.00 | tunasalad | fuck are youn saying, ssh 101 |
| 22:45.04 | annadane | tunasalad, PLEASE stop |
| 22:45.13 | annadane | leave your insanity in #offtopic |
| 22:45.16 | tunasalad | eill fo |
| 22:45.17 | annadane | this isn't the place for it |
| 22:45.23 | TypesWithForks | I honestly don't even know what hes saying.. |
| 22:46.03 | tunasalad | nade nire sense than everything else |
| 22:46.20 | Guest80559 | ssh into a server works perfectly fine but when trying to use sftp or rsync it tells me the server's key changed and gives me an unexplained error (255). ssh-keygen -R didn't do anything, neither did deleting known_hosts. Again, ssh works fine. |
| 22:46.32 | aloo_shu | annadane and #offtopic is? |
| 22:46.39 | annadane | #debian-offtopic. |
| 22:46.42 | Sent | sometimes people join in the distro channels and they mathematically make no sense whatsoever |
| 22:46.47 | Sent | they're a mystery |
| 22:46.47 | johnkeates | Guest80559: turn on maximum verbosity and try again |
| 22:46.50 | annadane | oh. well, no, it isn't |
| 22:46.54 | johnkeates | Guest80559: als check the log on the server |
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| 22:46.58 | aloo_shu | right |
| 22:47.07 | annadane | but just don't flood the support chan with it |
| 22:47.24 | tunasalad | Guest, no that's the kind of unliely issue you'd injecy |
| 22:47.35 | tunasalad | inject |
| 22:48.41 | tw | Is there a way to do host+port certificate or key pinning system wide? That's probably up to each app to implement. |
| 22:48.42 | Sent | I have problems with my debian!!! |
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| 22:48.51 | Guest80559 | johnkeates: not finding anything in the server log except brute force attacks |
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| 22:49.00 | nchambers | tw: what do you mean "port certificate" |
| 22:49.10 | tw | (host+port) |
| 22:49.17 | johnkeates | tw: not exactly because some software won't use the facilities you expect it to use |
| 22:49.19 | nchambers | right, I'm asking why you want the port portion |
| 22:49.21 | tunasalad | are we the only ones that understand cryptology and make a film of it that does or does not WWI either way |
| 22:49.39 | tw | nchambers: I don't use the same cert for xmpp as I do for https. |
| 22:49.39 | nchambers | SSL certificates are independent of whatever method is used to transport them to a machine |
| 22:50.00 | johnkeates | it's not only SSL, it's any asymmetric crypto |
| 22:50.03 | nchambers | then just configure xmpp to use certificate a, and your webserver to use certificate b |
| 22:50.05 | tunasalad | now tell that with a german accent |
| 22:50.26 | nchambers | IE, adding a port to a certificate will do nothing for you |
| 22:50.51 | johnkeates | also, i don't think it's much of a host+port deal since ultimately it's the syscall/socket operation that connects and the crypto lib (like openssl) that does the TLS or SSL |
| 22:50.53 | tw | I'm not interested in adding a port to the certificate, I'm interested in pinning them by port. |
| 22:50.54 | tunasalad | ain't gonna be a movie either, sorry. |
| 22:51.10 | nchambers | tw: oh my apologies, I misread |
| 22:51.29 | Sent | debian gnome is increasing my screen brightness every time a video is played/paused in the browser |
| 22:51.39 | Sent | its pretty anyohingh |
| 22:51.43 | tunasalad | I mean like really no movie. |
| 22:51.51 | johnkeates | Sent: laptop or external screen |
| 22:51.57 | Sent | laptop |
| 22:52.42 | sebboh | Sent, that sounds like a thing that some televisions do automatically, a feature built into the screen's controller. Oh, laptop? Nope, not what I described. |
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| 22:53.02 | Guest80559 | So I've found nothing in my server's log, and this is the message I'm getting with rsync: https://hastebin.com/iwocuyumit.vbs |
| 22:53.45 | tunasalad | no movie. PAS D' fuck if I remember |
| 22:53.46 | Sent | televisions don't know what software is running on the computer |
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| 22:54.21 | Sent | do browsers even have the capability to change brightness? I dont think so, it's probably a system issue |
| 22:54.34 | johnkeates | Sent: no, but they have dynamic bs and 'optimising' hardware/software that in practise just means messy contract/brightness and changes all day long |
| 22:55.03 | tunasalad | Nicht Movie Scheisse |
| 22:55.18 | johnkeates | Sent: it's probably a hardware acceleration side-effect if you have two video cards |
| 22:55.29 | sebboh | Sent: some televisions automatically adjust some settings like contrast or color temp based on the color/luminosity/who-knows-what of the input. It's a terrible feature I always disable when I can. |
| 22:55.30 | Guest80559 | Anyone? |
| 22:55.32 | Sent | I guess they can adjust it slightly, but not in any way what Im getting |
| 22:55.48 | tunasalad | where are we going again |
| 22:56.02 | johnkeates | Guest80559: remove the key and try again |
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| 22:56.10 | Guest80559 | I have, no change. |
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| 22:56.40 | tunasalad | silezia joined |
| 22:56.47 | johnkeates | Guest80559: enable verbose/debug output |
| 22:56.52 | tunasalad | SZ is rather pissed with Poland |
| 22:57.00 | annadane | !ops tunasalad continues to be offtopic despite several warnings |
| 22:57.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: annadane complains about a problem (see above) |
| 22:57.40 | Sent | it's only in browsers, it's only when playing,pausing video, regardless of if im looking at it or not. Its a constant increase and doesn't show the brightness increased indicator like when I'd do it via they function keys. It is the same setting however |
| 22:57.45 | tw | Guest80559: are you sshing as root when you test? |
| 22:58.03 | tunasalad | yeah well I killed actual Germans, what did you do |
| 22:58.24 | Sent | why u kill germans? |
| 22:58.29 | annadane | don't encourage it |
| 22:58.32 | annadane | just stop |
| 22:58.55 | tunasalad | who is this guy anyway |
| 23:00.34 | Guest80559 | tw: no johnkeates: I used the -v flag on rsync, no additional output |
| 23:00.55 | Guest80559 | Sshing as a user with sudo though |
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| 23:01.21 | tunasalad | ffs here comes a proper rsync soldier |
| 23:01.36 | Guest80559 | What? |
| 23:01.41 | tw | ignore it. |
| 23:01.49 | tw | it's some kind of chatbot. |
| 23:01.55 | Guest80559 | Oh |
| 23:01.59 | tunasalad | you wouldn't like/believe it |
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| 23:02.47 | tunasalad | ffs is that it |
| 23:03.14 | tunasalad | I was watching grass grow |
| 23:03.57 | Guest80559 | Any way I can give more info to make it easier on you guys? |
| 23:04.08 | tunasalad | them detecrots are crazy ass old people that we keep for fun. |
| 23:04.24 | Sent | lol |
| 23:04.54 | annadane | after he gets banned you can probably restate your question |
| 23:04.55 | tw | Guest80559: give the exact commands you are using for both ssh and rsync in a paste. |
| 23:05.35 | tunasalad | if you're into that kinda thing watch the bbc detectorists into its third season |
| 23:06.01 | tunasalad | probably this year. |
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| 23:06.24 | Sent | anyone got any idea about where to start debugging my brightness issue? There don't seem to be any posts on the internet about anything like this |
| 23:07.10 | Sent | it has to be some kind of browser system interaction that is misinterpreted or something |
| 23:07.15 | tunasalad | that probably suggests you're in the wrong hobby if even the internet disagrees with you |
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| 23:07.44 | Sent | woa haha that bot is pretty good |
| 23:08.01 | tunasalad | oh look, here come the delusional Linux people |
| 23:08.21 | Guest80559 | https://hastebin.com/sesijiyofu.vbs |
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| 23:08.56 | Guest80559 | tunasalad: kill |
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| 23:09.16 | Guest80559 | not bad |
| 23:09.53 | tunasalad | Guest80559, I most certainly would but why in the world would you do that |
| 23:10.03 | tunasalad | <Guest80559> https://hastebin.com/sesijiyofu.vbs |
| 23:10.04 | tw | Guest80559: rsync is still using /root/.ssh/known_hosts and your ~/.ssh/known_hosts |
| 23:10.20 | tunasalad | tw you're not helping |
| 23:10.23 | tw | *and not your. |
| 23:11.05 | Guest80559 | oh |
| 23:11.21 | tunasalad | really, can people be any more rerarded? Unlikely. |
| 23:11.34 | tunasalad | Let's have a minute for their parents. |
| 23:11.55 | Guest80559 | lol |
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| 23:12.59 | Guest80559 | oops |
| 23:13.09 | Guest80559 | Yeah just deleted everything in /root |
| 23:13.22 | tw | Not usually what I'd consider a good thing. |
| 23:13.22 | TypesWithForks | Smooth. |
| 23:13.26 | Sent | gratz! |
| 23:13.27 | tunasalad | on your own smartphone |
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| 23:13.35 | tunasalad | that you rooted yesterday |
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| 23:13.56 | tunasalad | so you're the retard. |
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| 23:14.44 | Sent | is this bot maybe just copying other chats |
| 23:14.57 | annadane | i mean |
| 23:14.58 | Guest80559 | interesting |
| 23:15.02 | annadane | a rational solution is to ignore it |
| 23:15.08 | TypesWithForks | What bot? |
| 23:15.09 | tunasalad | go ahead and call him. |
| 23:15.30 | Sent | COME HERE TUNASALAD |
| 23:15.36 | TypesWithForks | Ohhhh. |
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| 23:15.43 | TypesWithForks | xD |
| 23:15.58 | tunasalad | I'm 36, fuck you. |
| 23:15.59 | TypesWithForks | I just assumed it was a random troglodyte. |
| 23:16.24 | Sent | its not completely random |
| 23:16.24 | TypesWithForks | Is this a normal thing in IRC? (Yes I'm a IRC noob.) |
| 23:16.35 | annadane | sigh. |
| 23:16.35 | Guest80559 | Yeah freenode is abused |
| 23:16.39 | tunasalad | it is completely random. you're all degenerates. |
| 23:16.48 | Sent | i feel like its just copying random people from other chats at random intervals |
| 23:17.06 | Guest80559 | There was that one time someone decided to load up like 50 accounts and spam me with pms of gay porn |
| 23:17.21 | tunasalad | cause your gay |
| 23:17.28 | TypesWithForks | Was it atleast good gay porn? |
| 23:17.33 | tw | offtopic. |
| 23:17.35 | Guest80559 | I learned my lesson to a) not accept PMs and b) not open pictures |
| 23:17.38 | tunasalad | that's something your people can relate to |
| 23:17.43 | Sent | oohh now the 10 year old took manual control |
| 23:17.49 | Guest80559 | No I tried to forget it asap |
| 23:18.11 | Sent | you scared of some pictures? |
| 23:18.19 | Sent | maybe tuna is right |
| 23:18.24 | Guest80559 | So can I use alpha instead of username@host? |
| 23:18.26 | tunasalad | you're all likely gay, you scared of some motions |
| 23:18.29 | annadane | can we GET BACK TO DEBIAN SUPPORT |
| 23:18.32 | coruja | pls don't feed the troll/bot/whatever, just stay on topic here |
| 23:18.34 | Guest80559 | LOL |
| 23:18.53 | tunasalad | fucking ass pounders, and we got videos |
| 23:18.56 | Sent | yay i got to be bot input |
| 23:19.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1639] by debhelper |
| 23:19.19 | Guest80559 | when the bot becomes entertainment |
| 23:19.22 | tunasalad | I'm their uncle. |
| 23:19.35 | TypesWithForks | Niiice Sent. Heh. Now I see why Discord is becoming so popular. |
| 23:19.54 | Sent | how can one be sure not everyone here is a bot |
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| 23:20.02 | aloo_shu | the most interesting aspect of abuse on freenode could be infiltration, couldn't it? |
| 23:20.12 | Sent | discord isnt really appealing to the irc crowd |
| 23:20.22 | tunasalad | Sent: try noe being a faggot maybe |
| 23:20.31 | Sent | sorry I cant |
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| 23:20.36 | Sent | I try but i fail every time |
| 23:21.03 | TypesWithForks | Umm I can think of a multiple of ways I could prove they aren't, but it wouldn't be worth while given that it wouldn't make much of a diffirence. |
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| 23:21.16 | tunasalad | sure is a good thing you're not some kind of president of Laos or something |
| 23:21.28 | TypesWithForks | Good ol spell check. |
| 23:22.03 | tunasalad | or the usual degenerates the US tends to uphold |
| 23:22.17 | Sent | well goodbye i had enough |
| 23:22.21 | Guest80559 | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 23:22.25 | Guest80559 | See ya |
| 23:22.48 | tunasalad | see you a Thailand king next week |
| 23:22.58 | Guest80559 | you got it tunasalad |
| 23:23.34 | annadane | am i fucking invisible? ignore it and keep the chat on topic |
| 23:23.35 | Guest80559 | Ok so can I force rsync to use my home's ssh config |
| 23:24.15 | tunasalad | annadane, issue being |
| 23:24.26 | Guest80559 | Hey fixed |
| 23:24.30 | Guest80559 | Thanks guys |
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| 23:24.43 | tunasalad | Guest80559, force the bitch |
| 23:24.59 | tw | you could, but it's better to just accept it with root. |
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| 23:25.14 | Guest80559 | Why? |
| 23:25.31 | tunasalad | cause he's a dealbreaker |
| 23:25.35 | tw | I guess if you're sudoing anyway, it isn't a big deal. |
| 23:26.02 | Guest80559 | It just got mostly fixed by deleting the ssh folder in /root and taking off sudo |
| 23:26.07 | tunasalad | y'all don't know shit about security anyway |
| 23:26.07 | Guest80559 | sudo off the command* |
| 23:26.59 | tunasalad | bestest thing I bought] |
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| 23:27.10 | tw | If you don't need sudo, you didn't need to mess with /root/.ssh |
| 23:27.25 | tunasalad | is a remote controlled fan |
| 23:27.25 | Guest80559 | iirc even without it was breaking |
| 23:28.21 | tunasalad | and it ain't LO |
| 23:28.28 | bazhang | tunasalad, know any good chat channels |
| 23:28.28 | tunasalad | this here's Moscow |
| 23:28.46 | annadane | bazhang, it's a bot. ignore it. |
| 23:29.06 | tunasalad | i HEREBY IGNORE YOU. |
| 23:29.29 | bazhang | tunasalad, #debian-offtopic |
| 23:29.35 | annadane | bazhang, IT IS A BOT. |
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| 23:29.48 | tunasalad | I'm aware where I am, thank you very much |
| 23:29.53 | bazhang | calm down annadane |
| 23:29.55 | annadane | no |
| 23:29.58 | annadane | keep it on fucking topic |
| 23:30.10 | tunasalad | the topic being |
| 23:30.11 | bazhang | annadane, no cursing here |
| 23:30.12 | Guest80559 | o.o |
| 23:30.28 | coruja | !ops tunasalad support-disturbing bot chat |
| 23:30.28 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: coruja complains about a problem (see above) |
| 23:30.35 | Guest80559 | tunasalad has a point, there is no topic atm *runs* |
| 23:30.51 | tunasalad | wut y'all |
| 23:31.30 | dondelelcaro | please take the OT to #debian-offtopic. |
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| 23:31.31 | tunasalad | totally not a Russian agent |
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| 23:31.34 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@broadband-188-255-79-213.moscow.rt.ru] by dondelelcaro |
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| 23:31.45 | coruja | dondelelcaro, ty |
| 23:31.46 | bazhang | thanks |
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| 23:32.05 | Guest80559 | Also, I allowed recursive permissions (7) for my user with ACL and it's still saying permission denied |
| 23:32.34 | Guest80559 | Is it safe to chmod my entire folder 777 if I'm using acl? |
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| 23:32.54 | eck | lol |
| 23:33.11 | Guest80559 | first problem fixed |
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| 23:33.25 | eck | go ahead and run it as root while you're at it |
| 23:33.47 | Guest80559 | So stupid idea? |
| 23:33.52 | tw | How did you apply recursive permissions with ACL? |
| 23:34.03 | tw | And it's not a good idea, no. |
| 23:34.04 | Guest80559 | setfacl -R -m ... |
| 23:34.08 | Guest80559 | Fixed that |
| 23:34.31 | Guest80559 | Well java needs to have access to multiple folders, and this whole project's root folder is right under / |
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| 23:36.32 | punto | hi, which display manager can I install to use with kde? I have debian 9, it says package "kdm" doesn't exist |
| 23:37.08 | krytarik | ,i sddm |
| 23:37.09 | judd | Package sddm (kde, optional) in stretch/amd64: modern display manager for X11. Version: 0.14.0-4; Size: 562.2k; Installed: 1601k; Homepage: https://github.com/sddm/sddm; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/sddm |
| 23:37.21 | krytarik | punto: â |
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| 23:45.30 | annadane | sddm replaced kdm, iirc |
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| 23:53.34 | Tom01 | don't use Java |
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