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| 00:01.08 | Cef-web | Ok weird. I downloaded these images from different mirrors. I have one of the live CD's so I'll try that. Can't find any old 9.0 netinst images to see if they're ok. :/ |
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| 00:14.05 | Sinopsis | i have a pi with an amazon fire stick remote paired, is there anyway @ the cli, to bind its buttons to commands or scripts? (no gui) |
| 00:14.30 | Sinopsis | i have a pi with an amazon fire stick remote paired, is there anyway @ the cli, to bind its buttons to commands or scripts? |
| 00:14.34 | Sinopsis | (no gui) |
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| 00:18.28 | nvz | Sinopsis: /j #debian-offtopic |
| 00:19.07 | Sinopsis | not sure why its off topic, its still debian, but k |
| 00:19.39 | abrotman | Sinopsis: is it really debian, or raspbian ? |
| 00:20.52 | Sinopsis | point |
| 00:21.08 | abrotman | point? |
| 00:21.33 | abrotman | Sinopsis: they have #pointlinux.org for support, see if nvz will join you there |
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| 00:49.06 | tesko | my computer says my usb wifi port is at bus 1 yet the wifi doesnt woork for debian 9.1 |
| 00:49.25 | tesko | well my moms computer |
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| 00:52.18 | somiaj | tesko: usually wifi in debian requires additional non-free firmware to work. check dmesg | grep firmware to make sure the firmware is loaded, then check 'ip a' to see if it has been assigned an interface. |
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| 00:54.23 | tesko | thank you |
| 00:54.35 | eck | tell your mom that you're doing her a favor by preventing her from using non-free software |
| 00:55.17 | nvz | heh |
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| 01:01.42 | tesko | somiaj: mt7601u.bin failed |
| 01:03.59 | somiaj | what wifi card is it? You will have to install the firmware from non-free |
| 01:04.01 | somiaj | !non-free |
| 01:04.01 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 01:04.18 | somiaj | make sure you have non free enabled, then install the firmware-foo package. If you find out the wifi chipset I can help track downt he package name. |
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| 01:14.01 | tesko | somiaj: id have to take the machine back into my bedroom for internet stuff |
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| 01:16.25 | electrikapricot | So I tried to take all the "Don't break debian" advice to heart, and now I'm paranoid. I'm looking to install GNS3. It has instructions for Debian separate from those for Ubuntu, but the repos it wants me to use still say Ubuntu. I don't *think* it's pulling any other weird libraries that might cause harm, but I'd like a second opinion. Thanks :) |
| 01:18.55 | electrikapricot | https://docs.gns3.com/1QXVIihk7dsOL7Xr7Bmz4zRzTsJ02wklfImGuHwTlaA4/index.html If the link helps |
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| 01:21.29 | somiaj | tesko: you can also copy the firmware to the machien on a usb drive |
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| 01:22.20 | somiaj | electrikapricot: just pay attention to the depends that it requires and double check what sort of libaries it offers. If it is a binary that can install using the libs you have in debian you should be fine. |
| 01:22.44 | somiaj | electrikapricot: if it has to pull in libs of different versions that are provided by debian, then I wouldn't install it. |
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| 01:23.12 | somiaj | you can check apt-cache policy to make sure that the libs are or have a debian version available |
| 01:24.14 | electrikapricot | Makes sense -- I'll do some research into apt-cache policy. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction :D |
| 01:26.05 | tesko | somiaj: i dont have a usb stick |
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| 01:26.50 | somiaj | to use the wifi you will have to some how get the firmware |
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| 01:27.21 | somiaj | a wired connection would make it easiest. |
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| 01:30.32 | Cef-web | sypher: Found the issue: HDD has something wrong with it. Was copying the iso to a USB key (tho I did try a CDRom). Error was saying it couldn't find the pkgs on the install media, which was wrong cos it was encountering an error either copying them to a temp dir or reading them after copy. |
| 01:30.57 | sypher | Thought so. |
| 01:31.01 | tesko | somiaj: what time is it where you are? |
| 01:31.01 | Cef-web | sypher: note that by HDD, I mean the HDD i'm installing to. |
| 01:31.17 | sypher | Yeah. |
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| 01:31.52 | Cef-web | sypher: the install media was fine.. threw a test drive in the machine and it's working now.. I'll redo with a decent drive soon. |
| 01:32.00 | somiaj | tesko: that is not important to the issue. Others here can help you track down the firmware. If you can figure out a way to get the firmware on the machine, next step is to figure out what chipset by looking at lspci -nn |
| 01:32.25 | tesko | ok ill brb\ |
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| 01:51.54 | electrikapricot | somiaj, I'm sorry for the noobish questions but -- I went to install the program, it wanted to install 71 packages. I removed the "ubuntu" repo and it let me install 68 from debian's. The remaining 3 seem directly related to the new program, and when I added the new repo back and told it to install those, it didn't want to touch the debian libs. So I think I'm okay? But when I ran the apt-cache policy, it looked like it was |
| 01:51.54 | electrikapricot | lumped into the same priority as everything else (500). Should I try to set the new program's repo to a smaller value? |
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| 01:53.19 | somiaj | electrikapricot: That can help make sure the libs it pulls in are only from debian's repos. But did you also make sure that the libs are the right version in debian. If they aren't of the right version then that package isn't htat compadable with debian. |
| 01:53.52 | somiaj | but you can start by pinning that repo down. |
| 01:54.05 | tesko | somiaj i has returned |
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| 01:54.24 | somiaj | As an different option, you could see if they also provide a source package, and then compile it against the libs in debian |
| 01:56.34 | tesko | ok somiaj what should i do now? |
| 01:56.41 | electrikapricot | The package seems like it installed fine using debian's libs. It didn't try to change them or say they weren't compatible. I just want to make sure it doesn't try to change them in the future. |
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| 01:58.35 | somiaj | tesko: This is a usb wifi card? |
| 01:58.49 | tesko | no |
| 01:58.54 | tesko | er |
| 01:59.03 | tesko | yea it is but im wired on now |
| 01:59.28 | somiaj | plug the usb in, and then run lsusb, I want to know what chipset the usb wifi card is using |
| 02:00.19 | tesko | Bus 002 Device 004: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7601U Wireless Adapter |
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| 02:18.56 | tesko | so i know my usb wifi thang is at bus 002 device 004: id 148f:7601 MT7601U wireless adapter |
| 02:19.09 | tesko | what do i do now? |
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| 02:29.04 | tesko | anyone know? |
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| 02:30.28 | zq | !test |
| 02:30.28 | dpkg | Test failed. |
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| 02:34.41 | annadane | you may try saying his name so he knows you responded |
| 02:34.58 | annadane | standard irc protocol |
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| 02:35.12 | annadane | tesko |
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| 02:45.17 | tesko | annadane: hi |
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| 02:49.58 | tesko | somiaj: you there? |
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| 03:04.40 | somiaj | tesko: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-misc-nonfree |
| 03:05.04 | somiaj | tesko: sorry, had to step away. Anyways, that is the package you need, firmware-misc-nonfree, if you have non-free installed just apt-get install firmware-misc-nonfree |
| 03:08.46 | tesko | E: Unable to locate package firmware-misc-nonfree |
| 03:08.51 | somiaj | !non-free |
| 03:08.51 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 03:09.05 | somiaj | you will have to add non-free to your sources.list then |
| 03:09.41 | annadane | recommend also "contrib" |
| 03:10.07 | tesko | is that inn etc? |
| 03:10.28 | somiaj | !non-free sources |
| 03:10.28 | dpkg | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «apt-get update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>. |
| 03:10.29 | annadane | sorry? |
| 03:10.37 | somiaj | tesko: sorry wrong factoid, I meant to do that one.' |
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| 03:39.38 | uxfi | Hi I'm having issues isntallling php5-mysql in debian. it says "Depends: libmysqlclient18 but it is not installable |
| 03:39.38 | uxfi | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.40 | uxfi | what do I do? |
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| 03:41.16 | eck | it means your apt is all messed up |
| 03:41.24 | eck | and hopefully you can correct it with apt-get update |
| 03:41.27 | eck | but probably not |
| 03:41.40 | eck | it's worth a try anyway |
| 03:42.45 | annadane | uxfi, |
| 03:42.47 | annadane | !bat |
| 03:42.47 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 03:45.07 | uxfi | let me check |
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| 03:56.57 | annadane | uxfi, i'll also assume you're on debian stable, that's probably a better start |
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| 03:57.34 | uxfi | yes annadane |
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| 04:30.47 | wr | was not able to read 2 external hard disks, after i issued a apt-get install gvfs dbus --no-install-recommends, i can now see the drives, what does --no-install-recommends do exactly? |
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| 04:39.24 | aloo_shu | wr it will like tell apt to ignore the 'recommends' fields of the dependencies of a pkg to be installed, regardless of global settings |
| 04:39.46 | aloo_shu | *likely |
| 04:39.53 | annadane | though in your case that sounds suspiciously like a bug |
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| 04:41.37 | wr | aloo_shu, since i could not mount disks on thunar, and after apt-get install gvfs dbus, fixed issue, were these right packages missing? |
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| 04:42.15 | aloo_shu | wr synaptic has a comfortably gui to browse packages and look at their properties to get the general picture |
| 04:42.34 | Sveta | wr: I guess some of the packages it installed were missing, and `apt-get install gvfs dbus` would have worked just as well ? |
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| 04:43.30 | Sveta | wr: without `--no-install-recommends`, it would have installed a few extra useful packages which probably would not cause an issue |
| 04:44.01 | tx | yes |
| 04:44.09 | tx | with that flag it will still install everything needed to actually run the package |
| 04:44.17 | wr | Sveta, yes something was missing, these two seemed to solve this, but im not sure if are proper thing |
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| 04:44.50 | aloo_shu | probably dbus was the one that solved it |
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| 04:46.58 | aloo_shu | guessing, is gvfs in charge of all user space mounting these days? |
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| 04:48.04 | wr | aloo_shu, by core gvfs comes with debian stretch? |
| 04:48.34 | aloo_shu | ?? |
| 04:49.13 | aloo_shu | anyway, if it works, great. celebrate.. |
| 04:49.45 | tx | aloo_shu: You are authorised to dance. |
| 04:50.33 | aloo_shu | performs a pencil point pirouette |
| 04:50.48 | wr | aloo_shu, but im not sure if is stable still |
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| 04:52.26 | aloo_shu | wr a great point to begin studying what all these cryptic commands do, is the man command. |
| 04:52.51 | aloo_shu | man man to learn about the man command itself |
| 04:53.24 | wr | aloo_shu, i was about to reinstall debian from ground and i dont do a format for at least 3 years, but this lucky strike worked |
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| 04:55.36 | wr | aloo_shu, being doing the man for like the last 6 years lol |
| 04:55.46 | aloo_shu | ok, ok |
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| 04:59.57 | aloo_shu | still not sure why you had to install gvfs and dbus (or was it gvfs-dbus by chance?) on a 3 year old system, thwy ought to be there. Or did you change/add desktop environments recently, maybe? |
| 05:01.43 | aloo_shu | but using man, you could have answered questions about apt-get command line options yourself, wr :) |
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| 05:11.45 | makeupp | hello guys |
| 05:13.21 | makeupp | i dont know what to do |
| 05:13.23 | makeupp | 22/tcp open ssh |
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| 05:13.51 | makeupp | but my sshd dont working |
| 05:14.06 | makeupp | ssh: connect to host *** port 22: Connection timed out |
| 05:14.42 | aloo_shu | keys generated, permissions given? |
| 05:14.50 | teraflops | from where to where are you connecting to? |
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| 05:15.57 | teraflops | if you're connecting from let's say work to home you usually have to map port 22 in your router |
| 05:15.59 | makeupp | my pc -> internet -> my another pc |
| 05:16.10 | aloo_shu | sshd is not the typical OOTB thing, for good reason |
| 05:16.29 | teraflops | is port 22 mapped to your home pc? |
| 05:16.59 | makeupp | i do with iptables? |
| 05:17.04 | teraflops | no |
| 05:17.09 | hanasaki | what would cause a debian installer not to boot? hangs before grub. same usb stick works on many other computers |
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| 05:17.15 | teraflops | you do in your router |
| 05:17.37 | teraflops | makeupp: under nat |
| 05:17.52 | makeupp | is it possible to do this by command line? |
| 05:18.11 | themill | hanasaki: grub isn't used by the installer at all; how did you copy the image? is it the right arch? is the machine configured to boot off that device? |
| 05:18.14 | aloo_shu | hanasaki hang before grub *installation*? |
| 05:18.15 | teraflops | I don't know your router |
| 05:19.00 | hanasaki | yes. amd64. I put it on the usb with "dd" boots the installer fine on 3 other boxes |
| 05:19.25 | teraflops | I don't even know if this is the issue. but it looks like it could be |
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| 05:19.30 | hanasaki | aloo_shu: hangs before installer menu.... sorry. just an underscore char on the screen |
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| 05:20.50 | aloo_shu | hanasaki it can be the bios not liking ISO9660 filesystem on mass storage device |
| 05:22.22 | hanasaki | aloo_shu: yet it works on my other desktop... how to make it like it ? lol |
| 05:23.27 | aloo_shu | yes, hanasaki, bios is different from box to box, that's why I said it |
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| 05:25.13 | aloo_shu | hanasaki , using unetbootin for live usb creation *may* *slightly* increase success rate, no guarantee |
| 05:25.14 | hanasaki | aloo_shu: is there a workaround/ |
| 05:25.20 | makeupp | hey |
| 05:25.22 | makeupp | Host key verification failed. |
| 05:25.26 | makeupp | whats is it |
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| 05:25.42 | hanasaki | makeupp: a secure boot issue? |
| 05:25.46 | eck | it means you failed to verify the host's key |
| 05:25.51 | eck | as in |
| 05:25.54 | eck | it probably changed |
| 05:25.57 | makeupp | how can i fixe it |
| 05:26.01 | hanasaki | hmm aloo_shu what is unebootin? |
| 05:26.22 | eck | usually by removing the key from ~/.ssh/known_hosts |
| 05:26.33 | aloo_shu | hanasaki plop boot loader on the machine that doesn't boot could prove a workaround. |
| 05:26.36 | themill | hanasaki, aloo_shu: unetbootin is less likely to work than anything else |
| 05:27.19 | hanasaki | aloo_shu: and themill , would you two come to an agreemnt please? |
| 05:27.30 | hanasaki | aloo_shu: how do you plop one on? |
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| 05:28.22 | themill | hanasaki: unetbootin is entirely incompatible with the debian installers and has been removed from debian so that it is harder to accidentally use it |
| 05:28.22 | hanasaki | unebootin looks like a gui that just does what dd does |
| 05:28.23 | hanasaki | ?? |
| 05:28.36 | aloo_shu | google plop boot loader, follow instructions. will need some concentration to understand |
| 05:28.41 | themill | no, it's a gui that breaks the image in the process of copying it |
| 05:28.42 | hanasaki | themill: any thoughts on solving my issue? |
| 05:28.47 | aloo_shu | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:29.46 | themill | hanasaki: not beyond what we've already been able to rule out |
| 05:29.55 | hanasaki | aloo_shu: will it boot a deb installer disk ? does it need its own partition? |
| 05:30.09 | hanasaki | how does it interact with a win dual install and uefi? |
| 05:31.21 | themill | hanasaki: precisely which image do you have btw? |
| 05:31.48 | hanasaki | debian-7.11.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 05:31.51 | hanasaki | debian-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 05:32.02 | aloo_shu | oh, hanasaki, if you have win, than you can install it with the least risky install option: as a windows boot menu entry. just read plop documentation *well*, please |
| 05:32.03 | hanasaki | ubuntu-17.04-desktop-amd64.iso |
| 05:32.06 | hanasaki | ubuntu-17.04-server-amd64.iso |
| 05:32.23 | hanasaki | aloo_shu: I want to rm F win |
| 05:32.25 | hanasaki | lol |
| 05:32.37 | themill | hanasaki: and which one are you actually using... |
| 05:32.44 | hanasaki | themill: tried them all |
| 05:33.02 | themill | and precisely how are you copying them onto the usb stick? |
| 05:33.59 | aloo_shu | hanasaki you *can* have plop anywhere, also on mbr and in bios. but win boot menu is very safe, so for 1st try... |
| 05:34.21 | aloo_shu | dd he said |
| 05:34.30 | hanasaki | yup |
| 05:34.45 | aloo_shu | they boot on other machines |
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| 05:40.21 | aloo_shu | anyway , hanasaki themill rather than breaking the image, unetbootin puts a small kernel first that loads the image, which can be a strength and a weakness |
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| 05:41.40 | themill | aloo_shu: it breaks the installer (and I've observed before that it doesn't just copy the image, it alters the image) |
| 05:41.57 | themill | hanasaki: "dd" is not precise. That's why I'm asking |
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| 05:42.31 | aloo_shu | could be, I just noticed ot's own vmlinuz, themill |
| 05:42.46 | aloo_shu | *its |
| 05:44.22 | aloo_shu | another simple shot would be unplug all other usb devices check if bios is happier then |
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| 05:44.51 | hanasaki | themill: then wouldn't it fail to boot on other pc too? |
| 05:45.11 | aloo_shu | i'm no expert on uefi, wasn't there a safe boot off option? |
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| 05:46.17 | aloo_shu | I'll drop it |
| 05:47.27 | themill | hanasaki: not necessarily |
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| 06:07.09 | hanasaki | what is a good non-intel little HW system that debian supports? |
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| 06:16.32 | hanasaki | themill: other ideas? |
| 06:17.04 | themill | I missed how you were copying the image |
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| 06:19.46 | hanasaki | themill: I used dd if=.. of=... |
| 06:20.10 | themill | ... |
| 06:21.00 | themill | If you've already said "I used dd" and I've asked for more information, perhaps I was looking for more information. |
| 06:21.15 | hanasaki | what specifically do you want? |
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| 06:21.37 | themill | what you actually did? |
| 06:22.47 | hanasaki | dd if=debian-9.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdc |
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| 06:23.26 | themill | ok, nothing of interest there |
| 06:23.54 | hanasaki | right |
| 06:24.14 | themill | that is to say, you have avoided some of the mistakes that could give these symptoms... |
| 06:24.30 | hanasaki | for my edification... what mistakes do folks make? |
| 06:24.34 | themill | Given this failure is hardware specific, what is different about the box it doesn't work on? Is it really amd64? (doesn't need an i386 bootloader, for instance?) |
| 06:24.46 | themill | copying it to a partition rather than the device is a common one |
| 06:25.28 | Bierdieb | im trying to run a program, which one gives this response: |
| 06:25.29 | Bierdieb | ~/Claymore's ZCash AMD GPU Miner v12.6 - LINUX$ ./start.bash |
| 06:25.29 | Bierdieb | ./zecminer64: error while loading shared libraries: libOpenCL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 06:25.43 | Bierdieb | is there a chance to fix that? |
| 06:26.24 | nomadsign | I wanna install gcc-4.4 on stretch, but i have no idea how i can get the package with apt. Can somebody show me the light ? |
| 06:26.50 | Bierdieb | im running a fresh install of debian stretch |
| 06:27.09 | themill | Bierdieb: there are libopencl implementations available |
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| 06:29.03 | hanasaki | themill: cpu is n3450 |
| 06:29.04 | nomadsign | Nvm fixed |
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| 06:29.30 | hanasaki | https://ark.intel.com/products/82105/Intel-Pentium-Processor-N3540-2M-Cache-up-to-2_66-GHz |
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| 07:01.50 | Bierdieb | http://paste.debian.net/988118 |
| 07:02.07 | Bierdieb | any suggestions for me to fix that? |
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| 07:05.39 | Bierdieb | http://paste.debian.net/988119 |
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| 07:08.57 | nvz | Bierdieb: well while I have no idea what you're doing my first attempt would be to simply link the nearest lib you have to the lib its looking for, often libs are fairily compatible |
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| 07:09.30 | nvz | Bierdieb: you have 1.0.2 which may very well satisfy the needs of this program if you linked it to the same location and called it 1.0.0 |
| 07:10.37 | nvz | Bierdieb: ln -s http://paste.debian.net/988118 |
| 07:10.40 | nvz | erm |
| 07:10.49 | nvz | Bierdieb: ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.2 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 |
| 07:11.36 | nvz | Bierdieb: if that doesn't work then you can try other things, but this is the simplest and least invasive thing to try first |
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| 07:15.35 | Bierdieb | @nvz thx for that ... but it doesnt work either |
| 07:16.23 | nvz | Bierdieb: first of all, dont use that @ symbol we're not on twitter and I'm not an op.. second since this doesnt work remove the link your created before trying anything else |
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| 07:17.19 | Bierdieb | oh okay, its asking for another library now |
| 07:17.32 | nvz | Bierdieb: and if you dont mind could you give me a real brief description of wth this thing is? because googling got me all sorts of confused about what "bitcoin" "gpus" and "mining" have to do with one another and how "ssl " is involved |
| 07:18.09 | Bierdieb | im hardly trying to run Claymores zcash miner |
| 07:18.09 | nvz | knows nothing about bitcoin |
| 07:18.27 | nvz | Bierdieb: what is it though? |
| 07:18.49 | nvz | this is just a personal curiousity thing as this is foreign to me |
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| 07:19.52 | Bierdieb | the program is made to mine cryptocurrency using the gpu. the ssl things are used to connect to the pool servers and the zcash hosts |
| 07:20.18 | nvz | Bierdieb: ok thats what I thought.. even though I have no f'n clue what mining crypto currency is.. heh |
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| 07:20.40 | jelly | nvz: faking a soname of a library is not a good idea even when it appears to work |
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| 07:21.05 | jelly | if they need libssl.so.1.0.0 let them install the right package |
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| 07:21.17 | nvz | jelly: well in this case then no.. hence why I asked what it was.. this seems a bit more serious than trying to run nethack or something |
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| 07:21.34 | jelly | judd: file libssl.so.1.0.0 --release jessie |
| 07:21.38 | judd | Search for libssl.so.1.0.0 in jessie/amd64: libssl1.0.0: usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 |
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| 07:22.11 | jelly | Bierdieb: you can't apt-get install by file name. Instead, search for a package _containing_ that file. |
| 07:22.23 | nvz | Bierdieb: as I said before remove that link you made first |
| 07:22.51 | jelly | Bierdieb: which debian release is this? |
| 07:23.32 | Bierdieb | @nvz well id do that as i had a clue how to and where it is actually. im running debian stretch, quite fresh install |
| 07:24.09 | jelly | you'd have to add repositories for the previous release to be able to install libssl1.0.0 package |
| 07:24.11 | at0m | Bierdieb: like nvz said, skip the @. this isn't twitter. |
| 07:24.13 | nvz | wonders if his client is tab completing with the @ |
| 07:24.25 | nvz | that doesnt highlight me when you do that |
| 07:24.34 | jelly | hexchat does not do that by default. |
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| 07:24.57 | jelly | and Bierdieb seems to be using hexchat |
| 07:25.00 | at0m | ya |
| 07:25.06 | Bierdieb | yes i do^^ |
| 07:25.34 | nvz | some people may have more flexible highlighting my my client doesnt think my nick is @nvz, so it wond highlight that |
| 07:26.05 | jelly | anyway. Mixing releases can be harmful, but mixing in an _older_ release, where most versions are lower than your current one, less so |
| 07:26.10 | jelly | !jessie sources.list |
| 07:26.10 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 07:27.19 | Bierdieb | im not that firm in administrating linux.... i have no clue of how to get rid of the link i just created using ln command nvz mentioned me |
| 07:27.26 | jelly | rm |
| 07:27.45 | jelly | Bierdieb: so append the first two or all three deb lines from ^there^ to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then you'll be able to install libssl1.0.0 |
| 07:28.27 | Bierdieb | jelly, and ill leave the other sources untouched? |
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| 07:29.41 | Bierdieb | or will i have to change all repos down to jessie? |
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| 07:31.52 | logan0405 | hi. I have a qt app I want to deploy on debian. it requires newest Qt so I'd like to package the shared qt libraries for it alone to use. can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 07:32.36 | jelly | Bierdieb: leave stretch just as they are, only add jessie |
| 07:33.03 | Bierdieb | ok |
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| 07:34.07 | evilbug | i'm nervous to upgrade my production server from 8 to 9 X_X |
| 07:34.25 | evilbug | should i upgrade or do a clean install? |
| 07:34.33 | evilbug | digitalocean btw |
| 07:34.42 | at0m | dpkg: tell evilbug about jessie->stretch |
| 07:35.05 | at0m | evilbug: that should get you started.. |
| 07:35.08 | evilbug | at0m: yeah, i know about that. |
| 07:35.15 | at0m | ok |
| 07:35.26 | evilbug | at0m: in reality i'm more curious about success rate. |
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| 07:36.26 | evilbug | for the most part i've always done a clean install then retrieving ~ stuff from a backup. |
| 07:36.40 | jelly | evilbug: make a clone test environment, do it there, see what breaks and needs fixing, fix it, then do it in prod |
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| 07:37.05 | evilbug | jelly: not bad, i'll try that out. thanks. |
| 07:37.25 | jelly | unlike other distros, Debian 100% supports in-place release upgrades |
| 07:37.39 | evilbug | right. |
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| 07:38.04 | evilbug | irl i've only run desktop upgrades on ubuntu and overall a fresh install was a better idea. |
| 07:38.15 | evilbug | as for headless never done it. |
| 07:38.21 | jelly | ubuntu is different |
| 07:38.43 | evilbug | sure. |
| 07:38.55 | jelly | and for better or worse they try to automate the process |
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| 07:39.26 | evilbug | yeah but it hasn't been too successful, at least for non-unity des. |
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| 07:39.45 | evilbug | reason why i always opted for an lts. |
| 07:40.58 | evilbug | how come there's a debian with freebsd kernel? never wrapped my head around that one. |
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| 07:41.43 | Bierdieb | jelly, http://paste.debian.net/988124 would you mind to check that one? |
| 07:43.17 | evilbug | Bierdieb: you could apt search libssl to see available packages and go from there. |
| 07:43.46 | hanasaki | I have a usb stick that seems to have a phantom partition... it doesn't go away if I remove / reinsert the stick |
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| 07:45.50 | Bierdieb | evilbug, the version i need is listed by apt search, but how to install it then? |
| 07:46.37 | jelly | evilbug: why wouldn't there be? Any component can go crazy or unmaintained or weird, having alternatives is good even for the kernel |
| 07:47.16 | Bierdieb | libssl1.0.0/oldstable,oldstable 1.0.1t-1+deb8u6 amd64 |
| 07:47.16 | Bierdieb | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.30 | jelly | Bierdieb: type in the right package name |
| 07:47.32 | evilbug | jelly: just find it to be an outliar is all. |
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| 07:47.50 | evilbug | Bierdieb: yeah, type in the exact package name apt shows you. |
| 07:48.20 | evilbug | sudo apt install libssl1.0.0 |
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| 07:50.30 | Bierdieb | evilbug, jelly thanx a lot. that okay so for |
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| 07:51.34 | Bierdieb | and as it has to be im encountering a new problem, but ill use google first. love you guys. |
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| 08:28.58 | hanasaki | themill: turns out debian doesn't have the efi files needed... it just has boot...efi... https://www.cnx-software.com/2017/01/30/how-to-install-libreelec-kodi-linux-on-voyo-v1-vmac-mini-apollo-lake-mini-pc/ this has the needed files... time for a deb upgrade to its EFI dir? |
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| 08:36.39 | TC` | debian 8.8: I am trying to add route on /etc/network/interfaces with: post-up ip route add 10.0.0.0/8 via 10.5.0.6 dev eth1 |
| 08:36.59 | TC` | but it doesn't add after service networking restart |
| 08:37.12 | TC` | it works when I only add it manually. |
| 08:37.24 | TC` | ip route add 10.0.0.0/8 via 10.5.0.6 dev eth1 |
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| 08:42.02 | FinalX | TC`: networking restart is deprecated btw, and it's better to let post-up execute a script instead of seperate commands |
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| 09:29.50 | mestia | How shell I properly close too old bugs, for example when they do not apply for the current version in stable or even oldstable ? |
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| 09:38.10 | moozer | I am mail confused... default is to install exim4, and I configured it for "smarthost" delivery |
| 09:38.34 | moozer | mail and milax is a commandline tool that is supposed to send emails - but my attempts don't show up in the exim log |
| 09:38.54 | moozer | which smtp server does mailx use? |
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| 09:39.58 | petemc | they use whatever provides /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 09:39.59 | moozer | (I use stretch) |
| 09:40.38 | petemc | which log file are you looking at? |
| 09:41.20 | moozer | petemc: I look in /var/log/exim4/*log, ie. rejectlog and mainlog |
| 09:41.28 | petemc | ok, thats correct |
| 09:42.42 | moozer | petemc: I donøt find where the SMTP server is specified - "they" talk about /usr/bin/sendmail and that on is not installed. |
| 09:42.58 | moozer | I would expect such stuff to work out-of-the-box |
| 09:43.46 | petemc | readlink -f /usr/sbin/sendmail |
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| 09:44.12 | moozer | good one. it points to/usr/sbin/exim4 |
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| 09:45.00 | moozer | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:45.24 | petemc | right |
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| 09:45.49 | moozer | SO I have an exim4 config issue.... thanks, I'll keep digging |
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| 10:16.31 | dionysus69 | how do I encrypt my current home dir? |
| 10:17.16 | colo-work | you can use ecryptfs to retroactively do that |
| 10:17.27 | dionysus69 | retroactively? |
| 10:17.29 | colo-work | https://wiki.debian.org/TransparentEncryptionForHomeFolder |
| 10:17.35 | voidie | after you did an install |
| 10:17.43 | voidie | else you would do it during install |
| 10:17.59 | dionysus69 | on already installed system :) |
| 10:18.10 | dionysus69 | I didnt check that checkbox I remember :D |
| 10:18.26 | voidie | she already gave you the answer |
| 10:18.29 | voidie | so did i |
| 10:18.52 | voidie | i got to encrypt my black box... note to myself |
| 10:18.56 | dionysus69 | kk reading that page now ^.^ |
| 10:21.01 | RoyK | btw, anyone that knows encryption that works on usermode-virtualised machines? |
| 10:21.54 | RoyK | crowncloud uses openvz, and ecryptfs won't work there |
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| 10:35.57 | nvz | RoyK: maybe you could use truecrypt |
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| 10:36.21 | FinalX | no, truecrypt recalled itself due to not trusting its own source anymore because of the NSA |
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| 10:36.33 | noqnio1 | Hey, is there a way to check out the package version history with introduction dates for a specific debian release? |
| 10:36.36 | FinalX | it's only available for download to open old volumes |
| 10:36.40 | nvz | well I didnt say it was good I just was saying I think it'll run in usermode |
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| 10:37.20 | nvz | I do recall reading something about that.. I tested it once many years ago and I recalled it seemed to be entirely usermode |
| 10:37.45 | nvz | I use luks and afaik that all requires kernel support |
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| 10:38.14 | nvz | cause I've tried to mount my crypts on machines without kernel support and couldn't figure out any way to do it |
| 10:38.59 | AciD` | so |
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| 10:39.19 | nvz | be |
| 10:39.25 | AciD` | for 2 days now I get hash mismatch on the security.debian.org repo |
| 10:39.38 | AciD` | am I alone in that case or? |
| 10:39.49 | nvz | AciD`: have you done an apt-get update lately? |
| 10:40.08 | AciD` | I just did, this does not work because of that error |
| 10:40.21 | nvz | checks |
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| 10:40.31 | AciD` | I'm on Stretch |
| 10:41.05 | nvz | none here on jessie, I no longer have a stretch machine available |
| 10:41.51 | AciD` | 'deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free' is faulty for me |
| 10:42.04 | nvz | unless something has changed security used to be one server, because unlike other mirrors they didnt trust it being distributed.. |
| 10:42.27 | nvz | so perhaps you could check the IP in that case and make sure you're contacting the right server and not being duped by some MIM attack |
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| 10:43.05 | nvz | no apparently security now has mirrors |
| 10:43.24 | nvz | two pings for me went to different IPs |
| 10:43.41 | AciD` | I get 150.203.164.61 |
| 10:43.59 | hicks_ | dig security.debian.org any |
| 10:44.04 | hicks_ | will list a few |
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| 10:44.23 | nvz | what key do you have for that repo? |
| 10:44.41 | AciD` | nvz -> how do you check that? apt-key? |
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| 10:45.34 | nvz | AciD`: yes apt-key list, look for the stretch security |
| 10:46.11 | AciD` | I have /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-stretch-security-automatic.gpg : 6ED6 F5CB 5FA6 FB2F 460A E88E EDA0 D238 8AE2 2BA9 |
| 10:46.33 | AciD` | you guys have the same? |
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| 10:46.57 | nvz | pub 4096R/8AE22BA9 2017-05-22 [expires: 2025-05-20] |
| 10:47.02 | nvz | so yeah, I have that one |
| 10:47.18 | AciD` | pub rsa4096 2017-05-22 [SC] [expires: 2025-05-20] |
| 10:47.27 | AciD` | well |
| 10:47.31 | AciD` | this is weird then |
| 10:47.52 | nvz | the output is apparently different on jessie but mine says 8AE22BA9 which is the same as the last 8 on yours |
| 10:48.49 | nvz | yeah its a little strange I suppose. I'm no wizard with certs and keys so I'm not sure what else to check |
| 10:49.01 | AciD` | this is the error I get : http://paste.debian.net/988162/ |
| 10:50.24 | hicks_ | I have same key fingerprint as you and do not get any warnings from apt update |
| 10:50.50 | hicks_ | although I think I connect via ipv6 so maybe a different server? |
| 10:51.26 | AciD` | perhaps |
| 10:51.27 | nvz | AciD`: cann you show your sources.list.. you definately got some strangeness there |
| 10:52.23 | AciD` | nvz -> http://paste.debian.net/988163/ |
| 10:52.38 | AciD` | I do have other stuff in sources.list.d |
| 10:53.30 | nvz | AciD`: obviously.. |
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| 10:53.44 | AciD` | http://paste.debian.net/988164/ |
| 10:54.16 | nvz | AciD`: my thoughts were with all the mirror changes you may be using some old lines which you seem to have been changdrecate |
| 10:54.40 | nvz | heh.. I think my keyboard batteries are getting low |
| 10:54.44 | AciD` | :) |
| 10:55.09 | AciD` | well, I upgraded to Stretch the day it came out. my source.list worked until a few days ago |
| 10:56.09 | nvz | yes well thats what I was saying when my keyboard ate the chars.. you seem to have been changing your sources list as you upgrade which always worked but with all the cdn/httpredir/etc crap some lines are deprecated now and things are changing |
| 10:56.17 | nvz | you also have redundant mirrors |
| 10:56.32 | nvz | using an old ftp.debian and also an httpredir |
| 10:56.40 | nvz | but the security line looks fine |
| 10:57.45 | nvz | AciD`: current recommendation is to use deb.debian.org for the main mirror, CDN, HTTPREDIR, and the old specific ftp/http mirrors are no longer recommended |
| 10:58.23 | nvz | the redirects all point to deb.debian.org now but I'm not sure for how long |
| 11:00.12 | nvz | AciD`: thing is your error dont seem to be about the key, but about the hash of the packages file |
| 11:01.17 | nvz | AciD`: for curiousity perhaps you can wget the file and md5sum it yourself |
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| 11:02.30 | noqnio1 | >Ask about a bug yesterday, say that I've had it for a couple of weeks |
| 11:02.33 | nvz | says its expecting it to be be560911 |
| 11:02.48 | noqnio1 | >Check bug logs and package version history, turns out I've had it for 7 months |
| 11:02.53 | noqnio1 | Who would've guessed |
| 11:03.02 | nvz | decendant of yoda you must be |
| 11:04.23 | nvz | noqnio1: you can always install apt-listbugs which will show you bug reports before packages are installed |
| 11:04.36 | nvz | there is also apt-listchanges for changelogs |
| 11:04.55 | noqnio1 | I would, but then I'd have to install ruby on my system |
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| 11:08.39 | nvz | the horror |
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| 11:09.29 | noqnio1 | The agony |
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| 11:10.33 | nvz | AciD`: the hash expected matches http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/stretch/binary-amd64/Packages.xz for me, but the recieved doesn't match that or the Packages.gz |
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| 11:12.42 | nvz | AciD`: in the /by-hash/ dir though I see the hash you got dated 9-22 the one expected is dated 9-26 |
| 11:13.06 | nvz | AciD`: are you perhaps using a caching proxy? |
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| 11:14.11 | rdz | how are services enabled on debian when they are intsalled? Are they enabled by default or does each package make sure that its server is enabled by some postinstall script? |
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| 11:14.59 | nvz | rdz: there is no standard method some services are intentially disabled until you review and modify the config |
| 11:15.28 | rdz | i ask because i installed a package 'filebeat' from a third-party source and it is supposed to install a service that is disabled after intsallation |
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| 11:16.03 | nvz | rdz: systemctl enable filebeat |
| 11:16.18 | rdz | nvz, i know some services that are still enabled from a service point of view, but require some default variable to be set in /etc/default/servicename before they actually run |
| 11:16.53 | rdz | nvz, thanks..that's what i am doing now, i just wonder how it happens, that i have to do that manually, and for most services i don't have to do that |
| 11:16.54 | nvz | rdz: yeah well even if there were some method there, nobody can enforce what a third party maintainer does |
| 11:17.03 | rdz | is that an oversight by the package maintainer? |
| 11:17.19 | nvz | rdz: could be, or as I said could've been intentional |
| 11:17.34 | rdz | after installing, 'systemctl status filebeat' says: |
| 11:17.43 | nvz | rdz: I have little doubt however the problem is with the maintainer |
| 11:17.50 | rdz | Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/filebeat.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) |
| 11:18.10 | rdz | sorry.. confusing it actually said: |
| 11:18.18 | rdz | Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/filebeat.service; disabled; vendor preset: enabled) |
| 11:18.33 | vlt | Hello. How can I get rid of "[ *** ] A start job is running for dev-diskâ¦anadu_home.device"? What kind of start job is this? |
| 11:18.39 | rdz | nvz, ok.. thanks |
| 11:19.55 | nvz | vlt: that often is a result of an fstab entry for a device not found, check your fstab for that uuid and if you know its something removable or such that may not be present at boot, set option noerror |
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| 11:21.57 | nvz | vlt: otherwise if its a non existant old entry, comment/remove it, or if its something that should be there, check blkid and make sure the UUID hasn't changed |
| 11:22.12 | nvz | making a new filesystem on a partition for example will change the UUID |
| 11:22.36 | vlt | nvz: Thank you, found it. It was exactly that. |
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| 11:26.35 | TC` | doing service networking restart; script is executed as many times as many interfaces there are. How to make it execude just one time ? |
| 11:26.46 | TC` | /etc/network/if-up.d |
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| 11:30.07 | nvz | that doesn't sound right.. but I've been managing my interfaces manually so idk |
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| 11:39.14 | sypher | That doesn't sound right, no. |
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| 11:42.55 | FinalX | TC`: If you put it in if-up.d, it is executed for every interface, that's correct. You will have to check for $IFACE in the script to see if it's the right one, or simply make a script and use the post-up in /etc/network/interfaces and point to the exact script |
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| 12:25.22 | little_tommy | running sid, latest dist-upgrade wants to uninstall most/all gnome, evolution. is there a transition in progress to cause that? |
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| 12:27.13 | petn-randall | little_tommy: Pretty likely. But questions for testing/sid should go to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, where all the testing/sid users hang out. |
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| 12:27.33 | petn-randall | (I'm there, too) |
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| 12:48.24 | [exa] | Is there a way to tell APT to pretend that a package is installed but actually don't install it? |
| 12:49.05 | [exa] | (e.g. for dodging weird dependencies) |
| 12:49.05 | petn-randall | [exa]: Not really, what are you trying to achieve? |
| 12:49.31 | petn-randall | [exa]: Dependencies tend to be there because only that package can fulfil the dependency. |
| 12:50.15 | [exa] | one package depends on "working rdkit installation", thus has dependency on rdkit |
| 12:50.37 | [exa] | I have modified rdkit running here, and don't want the debian's rdkit installed |
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| 12:50.51 | [exa] | similar issue: pulseaudio |
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| 12:51.40 | roswell | [exa], have u built ur own package? |
| 12:51.55 | [exa] | no, it comes from the vendor |
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| 12:52.14 | roswell | [exa], i mean, regarding that 'modified' rdkit |
| 12:52.21 | arturo | [exa]: that is a major hack. You would require to edit packages or create a dummy one |
| 12:52.39 | [exa] | hm, dummy package |
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| 12:53.07 | [exa] | I could also just modify the packages not to include other people's dependencies etc |
| 12:53.16 | [exa] | but that seemed brutal |
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| 12:53.55 | arturo | [exa]: yes. here the 5 steps required, with other package: http://ral-arturo.org/2017/09/12/google-hangout-buster-testing.html |
| 12:54.08 | [exa] | would there any problem if I would install a dummy empty rdkit package from a pinned repository? |
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| 12:54.55 | [exa] | hm, good. |
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| 13:04.13 | samkod | hey everyone, I've been dual booting on a UEFI machine and never had a use for the windows partitions. I want to reclaim them and extend nvme0n1p4. This part I know how to do and don't think I'll need help on |
| 13:04.52 | samkod | What I am trying to achieve is rename the logical volumes nvme0n1p4 to nvme0n1p2 and nvme0n1p5 to nvme0n1p3 just for consistency before I extend |
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| 13:05.34 | samkod | I'm familiar with the lvextend but it asks for a volume group. I don't see any VGs in /dev/mapper. What is the best method to rename these? |
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| 13:06.27 | petn-randall | samkod: Those aren't LVs/VGs, those are GPT partitions. |
| 13:06.39 | samkod | ahhhhhhh |
| 13:06.56 | petn-randall | samkod: And likely any partitions that Windows created are essential for it to work. |
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| 13:07.31 | petn-randall | samkod: But I'd assume #windows knows that it more detail. The only thing Debian needs to boot in UEFI mode is a EFI system partition (ESP). |
| 13:07.55 | samkod | I already formated those partitions and cleared them from GRUB. The machine boots fine |
| 13:08.49 | petn-randall | samkod: Ah, so you want to completely get rid of Windows? |
| 13:09.03 | samkod | Yes :) |
| 13:09.36 | petn-randall | samkod: I see. Do you have your Debian installation on a single filesystem? |
| 13:09.50 | samkod | yes |
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| 13:10.43 | petn-randall | samkod: Then I'd backup that partition from a live system, delete all partitions, do a clean Debian installation and the restore your data. |
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| 13:11.21 | samkod | That's actually what I was thinking lol |
| 13:11.28 | petn-randall | samkod: You could also delete everything except for your ESP, create a single partition, restore your data back on it, and then use resize2fs to extend the filesystem to the end again. |
| 13:11.45 | samkod | was hoping that there would be a quicker way without reinstalling from scratch |
| 13:12.04 | petn-randall | samkod: The first one would be the cleanest way. But make sure to create backups before doing anything of that. :) |
| 13:12.39 | petn-randall | samkod: Is your Debian partition _smaller_ than the free space before it? |
| 13:12.46 | samkod | oh yeah, i've been doing this for the last decade, never had the desire to completely go windows free until now |
| 13:13.01 | samkod | no my debian partition is larger. the unallocated space is 40G |
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| 13:13.20 | petn-randall | samkod: Ah, then I don't have another idea. |
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| 13:16.51 | samkod | haha okay! well this confirms it then |
| 13:16.58 | samkod | i'll have a good weekend project to work on |
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| 13:17.02 | samkod | thank you for your help! |
| 13:17.27 | petn-randall | samkod: The steps are fairly simple, I imagine the backing up and restoring taking some time, depending on how much data you have. |
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| 13:18.26 | petn-randall | samkod: Went Debian-only a few years back on all my machines but one. I've only got one Windows installation for gaming/VR. :) |
| 13:19.24 | petn-randall | (VR unfortunately is quite a bit behind on Linux, too many walled gardens by HTC/Oculus) |
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| 13:20.50 | samkod | Yep! The only thing I hardly use windows for is an occasional game or application that wont run through wine |
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| 13:37.14 | Koyaanisqatsi` | is there somewhere to see when packages arrive in backports? |
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| 13:41.46 | petn-randall | Koyaanisqatsi`: They only arrive there if someone actively backports them, but you can see the list at https://ftp-master.debian.org/backports-new.html |
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| 13:47.20 | Koyaanisqatsi` | petn-randall, thanks |
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| 13:54.18 | b-04 | good morning |
| 13:54.28 | dionysus69 | I have a command that starts VM at startup |
| 13:54.35 | dionysus69 | where do i input it ? in bashrc? |
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| 13:56.12 | b-04 | I need to run a binary at the start of the system I put it in the init.d with a script in sh but it does not work .. how should I do? or where there is log of it? |
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| 13:57.17 | starsparrow | this link may possibly help both of you dionysus69 b-04 https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12973777/how-to-run-a-shell-script-at-startup |
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| 13:57.39 | petn-randall | dionysus69: That would trigger that command every time you open a shell. What kind of VM is this? |
| 13:57.50 | dionysus69 | virtualbox |
| 13:58.01 | dionysus69 | runs debian inside debian |
| 13:58.13 | petn-randall | dionysus69: I imagine virtualbox has an option to run that on startup, I'd check their documentation. |
| 13:58.26 | dionysus69 | hmm |
| 13:58.35 | dionysus69 | didnt notice or couldnt google anything relevant |
| 13:59.00 | petn-randall | dionysus69: If that fails, you can put it in your X session autostart, then it runs every time you log in on your GUI. |
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| 13:59.23 | petn-randall | dionysus69: If that fails, create a systemd unit file :) |
| 13:59.40 | dionysus69 | hmm not good at that |
| 13:59.52 | dionysus69 | I tried once to enable the service I created |
| 14:00.05 | dionysus69 | but it complained about that it wasnt require in other services or something |
| 14:00.20 | dionysus69 | it was a user level systemd service, systemctl --user enable someCustom.service |
| 14:02.10 | b-04 | rc0.d/ rc1.d/ rc2.d/ rc3.d/ rc4.d/ rc5.d/ rc6.d/ rc.local rcS.d/ |
| 14:02.14 | b-04 | no have rc.d |
| 14:02.16 | b-04 | :( |
| 14:02.20 | b-04 | where i put? |
| 14:02.25 | b-04 | the script |
| 14:02.37 | petn-randall | b-04: Are you even running sysv init? |
| 14:03.34 | b-04 | I need it to run after loading the system, it's a saprouter |
| 14:03.53 | petn-randall | b-04: Is it running Debian? |
| 14:04.05 | b-04 | yes ! |
| 14:04.10 | b-04 | 8.5 |
| 14:04.12 | petn-randall | b-04: Which release? |
| 14:04.14 | petn-randall | ah, ok. |
| 14:04.24 | dka | Hi |
| 14:04.26 | dka | can anybody help me ? I can't find docker-ce when doing "apt-get search docker-ce" |
| 14:04.47 | petn-randall | b-04: You could put your command in /etc/rc.local, I don't recall if that was still supported in 8.5. |
| 14:04.57 | b-04 | dka: wich repository you use? |
| 14:04.59 | petn-randall | b-04: You should upgrade, btw, 8.9 is current. |
| 14:05.06 | petn-randall | ,v docker-ce |
| 14:05.08 | judd | No package named 'docker-ce' was found in amd64. |
| 14:05.16 | b-04 | petn-randall: thanks !! |
| 14:05.19 | petn-randall | dka: docker isn't part of Debian. |
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| 14:05.39 | dka | cat: /etc/apt/source.list: No such file or directory |
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| 14:05.56 | dka | b-04, how can I know the repository ? |
| 14:06.11 | dka | petn-randall, I am trying to install docker on java:8-jdk base image, which use jessie-scm |
| 14:06.13 | petn-randall | dka: Can you show us the output of 'apt-cache policy'? |
| 14:06.14 | dka | jessie scm is debian |
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| 14:06.42 | petn-randall | dka: I believe the docker website has instruction how to install it. As I said, it's not in Debian. |
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| 14:07.09 | dka | https://paste.gnome.org/pixcjxz9d |
| 14:07.12 | b-04 | dka: cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 14:08.15 | b-04 | petn-randall: where is the local.rc log? the script no init at the startup :( |
| 14:09.12 | dka | b-04, https://paste.gnome.org/pixcjxz9d |
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| 14:09.56 | petn-randall | b-04: There is no log. If you want logs, you need to write a systemd unit file. |
| 14:10.21 | dka | never mind |
| 14:10.21 | dka | I got it |
| 14:10.55 | b-04 | dka: see it: https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/docker-ce/debian/#uninstall-old-versions |
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| 14:12.05 | b-04 | petn-randall: mmm how to check the fail? |
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| 14:37.14 | dionysus69 | rc.local command doesnt execute at start |
| 14:37.16 | dionysus69 | any ideas? |
| 14:37.34 | dionysus69 | the same command successfully starts VM |
| 14:37.40 | dionysus69 | but not at boot not in rc.local |
| 14:38.55 | petn-randall | dionysus69: What did you add exactly? |
| 14:39.18 | somiaj | also look at the output of systemctl status rc.local |
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| 14:42.58 | dionysus69 | #!/bin/sh |
| 14:43.18 | dionysus69 | VBoxHeadless --startvm someVMUID |
| 14:43.40 | dionysus69 | ----- /usr/bin/VBoxHeadless more specifically |
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| 14:44.11 | dionysus69 | i added this to .sh file and added it to /etc/init.d, still not working |
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| 14:44.36 | petn-randall | dionysus69: What somiaj said. |
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| 14:45.48 | dionysus69 | i already moved it out of rc.local :\ |
| 14:46.01 | dionysus69 | I did chmod +x on the .sh file |
| 14:46.08 | dionysus69 | and it's inside the /etc/init.d |
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| 14:47.18 | petn-randall | ... |
| 14:47.25 | petn-randall | dionysus69: Look at the logs! |
| 14:47.26 | dionysus69 | ? |
| 14:47.32 | dionysus69 | which ? :D |
| 14:47.48 | petn-randall | dionysus69: _READ_ somiaj's last message. |
| 14:48.08 | petn-randall | dionysus69: systemctl status rc.local |
| 14:48.18 | dionysus69 | did look at it but by the time I already had command moved out of rc.local |
| 14:48.20 | babilen | I also wouldn't use vbox for that, something like kvm or xen is better suited |
| 14:48.24 | dionysus69 | so status says its fine |
| 14:48.56 | somiaj | if you aren't using rc.local to try to launch this anymore you need to look at the status of the 'service' you added to /etc/init.d |
| 14:49.04 | dionysus69 | babilen: dont want to spend too much time just for a simple solution, maybe in long term I ll reset it |
| 14:49.07 | babilen | dionysus69: Obviously, you moved it to a different "service" -- You might also want to consider writing a proper unit file, rather than an init script |
| 14:49.10 | somiaj | also did you make that script a full LSB header script, otherwise it might not get read by systemd. |
| 14:49.32 | dionysus69 | babilen: not familiar with Unit file writing either :D |
| 14:49.43 | somiaj | dionysus69: it is far easier than init.d script writing. |
| 14:50.18 | dionysus69 | ok then how do I create a system level (root) systemctl service which just runs a file at root, /somefile.sh |
| 14:50.20 | somiaj | lots of docs on it, but rc.local will work, just need to know where to get logs if something fails. |
| 14:50.22 | dionysus69 | at boot |
| 14:50.38 | dionysus69 | that's the simplest service possible, where do i put the file and what the contents should be :D |
| 14:51.07 | somiaj | have you tried google, systemd unit file, it goes in /etc/systemd/system |
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| 14:51.38 | babilen | https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#autostart might also be worth a look |
| 14:52.23 | somiaj | dionysus69: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15348/writing-basic-systemd-service-files scroll down to the second answer, there is a very basic unit file with only 6 lines. |
| 14:52.29 | babilen | https://geek1011.github.io/linux-tips/configuring-virtualbox-autostart/ seems to be a reasonably tutorial |
| 14:52.50 | somiaj | dionysus69: but the man page on the unit files is helpful if you want more options than just ExecStart |
| 14:53.38 | babilen | My feeling is that using the autostart service is a much better approach than cobbling together a unit file that's bound to disappoint |
| 14:53.44 | dionysus69 | ok thanks somiaj i ll try create that service |
| 14:53.54 | dionysus69 | hmm |
| 14:53.58 | dionysus69 | autostart service ? :D |
| 14:54.06 | babilen | It would be a dionysus69 thing to do, so .. ;) |
| 14:54.12 | somiaj | dionysus69: I would follow babilen advice, I didn't pay attention to what you were trying to start, just pointing you that unit files aren't that complicated if you read the docs. |
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| 14:55.11 | dionysus69 | ok I ll follow babilen's tutorial then thanks :D |
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| 14:55.50 | petn-randall | babilen: dionysus69 claimed earlier that they couldn't find virtualbox autostart in the docs ... :) |
| 14:56.37 | dionysus69 | it's unclear to me, I have found it |
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| 14:59.04 | dionysus69 | + i would prefer to start VM at system start instead of user login |
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| 15:18.00 | tw | Anecdotally, virtualbox is not a particularly great tool for always-on VMs as it occasionally has stability issues. libvirt+kvm+virt-manager is what I usually recommend to people not interested in full blown esxi. |
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| 16:12.10 | jhutchins_wk | Now we'll never know... |
| 16:12.21 | jelly-home | :'( |
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| 16:30.57 | jhutchins_wk | RE: Oour tape discussion yesterday: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-the-vintage-technology-some-companies-are-using-to-store-your-data-2017-09-27 |
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| 16:31.33 | jhutchins_wk | Note the "vintage 1950s technology" and the fact that companies are "returning" to using tape. |
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| 16:42.23 | brokencycle | hi! |
| 16:42.30 | brokencycle | I have a very strange problem: |
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| 16:43.00 | brokencycle | I am using zsh under stretch, and, since recently, I am having a massive problem with /etc. |
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| 16:45.26 | brokencycle | This paste illustrates the problem: https://pastebin.com/r83xhaCW |
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| 16:45.38 | dka | I have this error: " iptables-restore: not found" what do i need to install ? |
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| 16:45.49 | brokencycle | If I use bash instead, this problem does not occur, and I can operate on whatever files in /etc without any issues. |
| 16:46.12 | brokencycle | The problem does not affect my ability to access files, it just clutters the output. |
| 16:46.35 | brokencycle | But I have no idea what causes it, or how to debug it. The problem just started a few weeks ago. |
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| 16:46.46 | Mathisen | brokencycle, join #zsh |
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| 16:47.04 | brokencycle | Mathisen: Thanks! |
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| 17:26.12 | ForceRecon | what is the name of debians font |
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| 17:33.02 | b-04 | is there a free version of nagios? |
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| 17:56.45 | deepy | b-04: nagios is free |
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| 18:00.44 | rgr | ye gods. Bluetooth on Debian Stable is the pits. It seems to have got worse since I tried it last. |
| 18:06.09 | ghormoon_ | how bad idea is to try to debootstrap debian install to 4gb flashdisk (basically live "cd" with persistence, zfs support and maybe some tools), I suppose I'll have to go for some lightweight DE, as things like kde, gnome etc wouldn't fit? |
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| 18:10.29 | GNU\colossus | if you keep /var/cache/apt/ tiday and /tmp on tmpfs it's gonne be OK, ghormoon_ |
| 18:10.32 | GNU\colossus | (I think 8)) |
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| 18:11.36 | ghormoon_ | well, I thought 9 already, I hope it will work :) |
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| 18:12.52 | ghormoon_ | it won't be used often anyway, just as rescue/install medium and it would be annoying to have real live disk as that would mean compiling zfs every boot :) |
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| 18:14.50 | painy | hi |
| 18:16.57 | painy | i've been experiencing a strange networking issue. if the computer which is hosting my web server idles for a while (but it doesn't enter sleep or anything), it stops responding to incomming connections from the internet |
| 18:17.13 | painy | the second I move a mouse or something, it resumes |
| 18:17.28 | painy | this happens with laptops, beaglebones, you name it |
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| 18:18.19 | painy | i'm using dynamic dns because my isp sometimes changes my ip, but during said "blackouts" i check the dns and it's the same ip as my external ip |
| 18:18.45 | painy | this is not particularily related to debian, but I don't know where to ask |
| 18:18.54 | jhutchins_wk | painy: You may need to look through the BIOS for power save settings. |
| 18:19.55 | jhutchins_wk | painy: The server recovers if you move the mouse on the server, right? |
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| 18:20.10 | painy | jhutchins_wk: first of all, this laptop runs libreboot, secondly, the same happens with SoC boards and everything that can host a httpd |
| 18:20.17 | n4dir | painy: in my routers interface is a setting to disconnect from the internet in case for a certain amount of time nothing happened. |
| 18:20.20 | painy | yes, jhutchins_wk |
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| 18:21.00 | painy | thanks, n4dir, i'll check |
| 18:21.33 | painy | oh, and for the headless servers that i've tried, during the blackout, the only fix is connecting via ssh from a local ip |
| 18:21.47 | jhutchins_wk | If it happens across multiple servers it's a network gear issue. |
| 18:21.48 | painy | then it starts serving http again to the internet |
| 18:22.02 | painy | ok thanks |
| 18:22.36 | painy | i am using my isp's router |
| 18:22.41 | painy | that could be the issue |
| 18:22.52 | jhutchins_wk | painy: We used to have that problem with modems, the serial buffer would empty out and you'd have to send enough to fill it before the connection responded again. |
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| 18:36.03 | AciD` | nvz -> no, I'm not using a caching proxy |
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| 18:36.21 | AciD` | today, after 3 days of not being able to update, the update got through without that error |
| 18:36.37 | AciD` | "we'll never know what happened there" |
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| 19:00.07 | kion | how can I get more fonts in Debian stretch? |
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| 19:03.25 | n4dir | !font |
| 19:03.25 | dpkg | Fonts available as Debian packages are automatically configured for use via <defoma>. To add user-supplied fonts to a Debian system, ask me about <install font> or see http://wiki.debian.org/Fonts . For general font information, see http://www.nwalsh.com/comp.fonts/FAQ/ . See also <liberation>, <mscorefonts>, <ttf>. |
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| 19:48.21 | null_b0n3s | hello |
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| 19:48.42 | petemc | hi |
| 19:48.55 | null_b0n3s | is anyone here use parrot os |
| 19:49.07 | greycat | !parrot |
| 19:49.07 | dpkg | Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 19:49.12 | null_b0n3s | well its like kali |
| 19:49.25 | greycat | !kali |
| 19:49.26 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
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| 19:51.44 | netzach | Hello |
| 19:52.04 | netzach | I can'\ find anything on the systemd wiki on debian or archlinux or redhat on how to set up the user or group of a unit |
| 19:52.10 | netzach | but I heard it's possible directly from systemd |
| 19:52.14 | netzach | how can I do that please? |
| 19:52.44 | somiaj | UserName |
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| 19:53.01 | somiaj | sorry, it is just User= |
| 19:53.13 | somiaj | group is probabaly Group= though I would have to look that up |
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| 19:53.35 | greycat | If you mean "who the service runs as", it's User= and Group= as seen in systemd.exec(5) |
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| 19:53.44 | greycat | finding the right man page is 60% of the battle |
| 19:54.21 | netzach | nvm I found it here https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html# |
| 19:54.27 | netzach | oh wait that is man page apparently |
| 19:54.31 | greycat | yes |
| 19:54.34 | netzach | I wish man pages were more comfortable to read in the terminal |
| 19:54.52 | at0m | netzach: where else? |
| 19:54.59 | netzach | IDK |
| 19:55.22 | netzach | terminal don't seem good to read long stuff |
| 19:55.25 | at0m | search them using / then $searchterm |
| 19:55.26 | netzach | like a book |
| 19:55.42 | jhutchins_wk | netzach: You can usually type "man foo" in your search bar and you'll get a manpage - problem is, there's no guarantee it matches the version on your system. |
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| 19:56.13 | netzach | ok ty another question |
| 19:56.19 | jhutchins_wk | netzach: There are tools to convert man pages to printable format. That was how they were originally distributed. |
| 19:56.19 | greycat | and you *still* have to figure out that it's in systemd.exec and not in systemd.unit or systemd.service which are the first two places I looked |
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| 19:56.24 | netzach | if I add a user with --disabled-login can you still login to it via su as root? |
| 19:56.35 | BobBarker | should libegl1-glvnd-nvidia fill dependeny requirements for libegl1? |
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| 19:56.38 | eck | netzach: you can sudo sudo -u foo /bin/bash |
| 19:56.56 | netzach | I found it out greycat because it was linked in a page on that site |
| 19:57.01 | BobBarker | currently libsdl2-dev is broken with libegl1-glvnd-nvidia from experimental |
| 19:57.02 | somiaj | netzach: yes, you may have to manually set the shell though with su -s /bin/bash - username |
| 19:57.16 | netzach | eck: so what is the point of --disabled-login? |
| 19:57.21 | somiaj | BobBarker: running sid? |
| 19:57.23 | eck | it prevents logins |
| 19:57.29 | netzach | but I mean you can su to it? |
| 19:57.32 | eck | execing a shell is different from a login |
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| 19:57.44 | netzach | so if I create a user with --disabled-login I cna still start a program via systemd as that user (the process?) |
| 19:57.47 | netzach | just for the rights |
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| 19:57.53 | eck | yes |
| 19:57.56 | somiaj | netzach: you can still as root execute commands run by that user, which can get you a shell. But one can't login(1) as that user |
| 19:57.59 | netzach | ok cool, thank you |
| 19:58.08 | BobBarker | somiaj: experimental nvidia drivers seem to break stuff right now. I know it's experimental, but I'm experimenting |
| 19:58.12 | eck | --disabled-login means the user should not be able to log in with a password at a getty, or even via ssh |
| 19:58.17 | eck | or any other login mechanism |
| 19:58.17 | netzach | I want that, to run a systemd service as that user, an group but that won't be logged in into |
| 19:58.18 | BobBarker | and right now it seems like that's an issue, specifically with the libsdl-dev packages |
| 19:58.24 | somiaj | BobBarker: what version of debian are you running? if you are running stretch you should not be using experimental. |
| 19:58.31 | BobBarker | I'm not runnign stretch |
| 19:58.44 | greycat | waits for "it's wheezy" |
| 19:58.44 | eck | see also: --disabled-password which is related (but different) |
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| 19:58.58 | somiaj | BobBarker: so you are going to make us guess what you are running? |
| 19:58.58 | eck | with --disabled-password you could log in via an ssh key, if it was configured correctly |
| 19:59.09 | BobBarker | somiaj I already said I'm running experimental |
| 19:59.17 | greycat | You can't "run experimental". |
| 19:59.22 | BobBarker | ... |
| 19:59.22 | at0m | sid? |
| 19:59.26 | at0m | !testing |
| 19:59.26 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <buster>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting . Support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You need a sound knowledge of Debian and be prepared for a very bumpy ride. Don't use it on things that are critical! |
| 19:59.27 | BobBarker | yeah |
| 19:59.29 | greycat | experimental is a set of packages that can be added |
| 19:59.33 | BobBarker | right |
| 19:59.39 | annadane | BobBarker, go to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 19:59.42 | BobBarker | k |
| 19:59.47 | somiaj | BobBarker: experimential is not a release you can run. |
| 20:00.02 | BobBarker | annadane: can't join without an invite |
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| 20:00.14 | BobBarker | oh nm oftc |
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| 20:00.52 | netzach | if I do --disabled-login I don't have to do --shell /usr/bin/false? |
| 20:00.56 | netzach | just for extra? |
| 20:01.05 | netzach | it doesn't really say what it does --disabled-login |
| 20:01.22 | somiaj | probabaly set the shell ot /usr/sbin/nonlogin |
| 20:01.33 | netzach | but the man page says nothing |
| 20:01.34 | netzach | shrugs |
| 20:01.45 | netzach | at worst I can directly the /etc/passwd later and see if it does that |
| 20:02.01 | somiaj | yea, you could see what it did after the fact |
| 20:02.31 | netzach | nah it set it to /bin/bash somiaj |
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| 20:03.27 | greycat | accounts that exist for running services should have shell set to something like /bin/false or /usr/sbin/nologin unless there's a specific reason to do otherwise |
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| 20:03.57 | netzach | I am surprised disabled-login doesnt do that greycat |
| 20:04.09 | greycat | that probably changes something in the shadow file |
| 20:04.19 | netzach | yeah |
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| 20:04.32 | netzach | but it says the difference between that and disabled password is with disabled pass you can still login via ssh |
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| 20:04.49 | netzach | but disabled login can later be activated by setting a poass, I guess that's hwy they dont explicitely set the shell |
| 20:04.50 | greycat | uses keys, presumably |
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| 20:05.21 | greycat | anyway, if you never want to login as the account, just set the shell to /bin/false and don't give it a password at all |
| 20:05.43 | netzach | I did -disabled-login via adduser and moded the shell to/bin/false |
| 20:05.49 | netzach | as I've seen done by other users in that file |
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| 20:05.51 | netzach | in /etc/passwd |
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| 20:08.02 | awer | Hi, How do i update flash player for chromium? i don't have a option to update via the browser under "chrome://components" i have installed browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash (0.3.5-1+b1) & flashplayer-chromium (27.0.0.130-dmo1) using Debian Stretch |
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| 20:10.16 | towo-vm | awer, browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash has nothing to do with chromium |
| 20:10.34 | towo-vm | awer, flashplayer-chromium is a 3rd party package |
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| 20:10.56 | awer | towo-vm: thanks for the clarity |
| 20:11.07 | towo-vm | pepperflashplugin-nonfree is the package for chromium |
| 20:11.09 | awer | towo-vm: what is the suggestion to update the brower? |
| 20:11.30 | towo-vm | my suggestion would be, use the original, google-chrome |
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| 20:11.45 | towo-vm | it commes with flash preinstalled |
| 20:11.56 | greycat | or shun sites that use flash |
| 20:12.08 | towo-vm | or the better suggestion would be, avoid flash at all |
| 20:12.33 | awer | unfortunately i need it for some payment sites |
| 20:12.39 | greycat | understood |
| 20:12.52 | towo-vm | i would never trust payments over flash |
| 20:12.57 | FinalX | payment sites with one of the most inssecure technologies that ever roamed the net? |
| 20:13.08 | greycat | Yes, FinalX. Not even a little bit surprising. |
| 20:13.08 | FinalX | ....avoid them like the plague, I'd say |
| 20:13.10 | awer | yeah i dont really liek the idea either i must admit its questionable |
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| 20:13.29 | greycat | The more important a site is, the more likely it is to be hideously, egregiously broken. |
| 20:13.39 | greycat | Governments, banks, you name it. |
| 20:14.09 | awer | is google-chrome a package i can get from the repos? |
| 20:14.20 | greycat | It's available from Google. |
| 20:14.46 | awer | so there isnt a package available from the repos that has flash preinstalled that is also up to date? |
| 20:14.53 | awer | just to be sure |
| 20:15.00 | greycat | It's in a repo, just not a *Debian* repo. |
| 20:15.07 | awer | ah |
| 20:15.08 | greycat | It is a Google repo. |
| 20:15.31 | awer | can i add that to my sources ? |
| 20:15.43 | towo-vm | it will do it automagic |
| 20:15.52 | towo-vm | if you download the deb and install it |
| 20:15.58 | greycat | When you install the google-chrome-stable*.deb file for the first time, it will add a repo in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ for you. |
| 20:15.58 | awer | ah thats rather smart |
| 20:16.01 | netzach | what is the difference between ./ a scripot in bash and doing exec? |
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| 20:16.02 | netzach | ./ if it exists you get back control in the bash script? |
| 20:16.07 | awer | thanks |
| 20:16.10 | towo-vm | after that you have the repo for automatic updating |
| 20:16.54 | greycat | netzach: exec replaces bash (or sh or whatever shell) with the other process. There's no shell to return to. |
| 20:17.08 | netzach | what is the advantage of running exec for? |
| 20:17.35 | greycat | 1) Efficiency. 2) If you're writing a daemontools-family run script where the PID of the service being managed must be maintained. |
| 20:18.13 | netzach | oh |
| 20:18.15 | tremon | 2) applies to systemd as well (with type=simple) |
| 20:18.16 | netzach | I get it, I want exec then |
| 20:18.21 | netzach | sicne I want systemd to manage my pid |
| 20:18.42 | greycat | what are you doing in a shell script with exec that involves systemd? |
| 20:18.57 | netzach | I have a script that does exec at the end |
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| 20:19.06 | netzach | and I want to make another script that exports some varaibles then execs the other script |
| 20:19.15 | netzach | I want systemd to start that script as simple |
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| 20:19.19 | greycat | chaining shell scripts... |
| 20:19.21 | netzach | hence no forking |
| 20:19.24 | greycat | ok |
| 20:19.33 | netzach | greycat: well I don't to change the other one since it's provided by the program |
| 20:19.37 | netzach | I could but I mean it's part of the package |
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| 20:19.55 | netzach | I can exec another shell script right? |
| 20:20.07 | greycat | yes |
| 20:20.12 | netzach | but it's not a good idea? |
| 20:20.35 | greycat | Since you say that one of them is a black box that you can't just merge into your own, then it's acceptable. |
| 20:20.48 | netzach | I could change it but I don't find it clean |
| 20:20.50 | netzach | since it's their script |
| 20:20.51 | dka | I need help to get in bash the ip address that does not start with "172" or "127" or "192" https://regex101.com/r/NSHR0Z/1 |
| 20:21.06 | greycat | dka: why? |
| 20:21.31 | dka | to get the public iface |
| 20:21.33 | dka | when I don't have internet |
| 20:21.37 | dka | and any clue of the iface name |
| 20:21.42 | greycat | cross-posted in #bash, so here's the #bash bot response: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/IpAddress |
| 20:22.02 | dka | 172 , 127 and 192 are reserved for (company) (local) (private) network |
| 20:22.17 | greycat | We know what the IP ranges mean. That isn't the question. |
| 20:22.23 | greycat | The question is What are you doing? |
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| 20:22.37 | dka | I need to get the IPv4 address for a bash script |
| 20:22.40 | greycat | WHY?!? |
| 20:22.43 | dka | but it's offline so I can't ping anywhere |
| 20:22.51 | netzach | this might be a very noog question, but if I do exec ./ is it to the pwd or relative to the script location? |
| 20:22.58 | dka | just to use the ip address in the /etc/resolv.conf for my dns server |
| 20:23.05 | greycat | netzach: the current working directory |
| 20:23.16 | greycat | dka: 127.0.0.1 |
| 20:23.25 | netzach | greycat: so if I do ./foo/bar.sh my script will break if Inside I do ./stuff ? |
| 20:23.31 | dka | the dns server is only listening on it's interface greycat |
| 20:23.41 | greycat | Why? |
| 20:23.52 | dka | security |
| 20:23.53 | greycat | Are you running multiple DNS servers on the same host? |
| 20:23.57 | dka | i couldn't restrict to specifc iface |
| 20:23.58 | greycat | ... |
| 20:24.05 | greycat | No. I'm done. *plonk* |
| 20:24.05 | dka | so I restricted to one listening iface |
| 20:24.47 | netzach | greycat: what about me :* |
| 20:24.48 | netzach | :( |
| 20:25.01 | greycat | relative paths are relative to the process's working directory |
| 20:25.15 | netzach | how can you make scripts that want to launch other scripts work then? |
| 20:25.28 | netzach | I guess I can set the working directory from systemd as well |
| 20:25.53 | jhutchins_wk | greycat: Would you go so far as to say "never use relative paths in scripts"? |
| 20:26.06 | greycat | no |
| 20:26.13 | greycat | use what is correct for your script |
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| 20:26.48 | netzach | but a script can find its own location right? |
| 20:27.08 | jhutchins_wk | netzach: pwd |
| 20:27.10 | greycat | No. |
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| 20:27.16 | netzach | pwd is not the same as the location |
| 20:27.36 | greycat | A script cannot know its own location, though half the shit-scripts you find in the wild will THINK that they can and will do some horrible hackery. |
| 20:27.38 | netzach | if I put a script on the path and launch it the pwd will be different than the location |
| 20:27.51 | netzach | alos I can do ./stuff/stuff pwd will be . script location ./stiuff'/stuff |
| 20:27.59 | greycat | The pwd of something you run via systemd will typically be / |
| 20:28.13 | netzach | I read I can set the pwd for a unit myself |
| 20:28.34 | greycat | netzach: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/028 |
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| 20:28.57 | greycat | And yes, you can change the working directory of your service. |
| 20:28.58 | netzach | is it a limitation of bash or linux? |
| 20:29.10 | makeupp | hi! how can i do to take users in /etc/passwd with access in /bin/bash and save in list.txt ? |
| 20:29.13 | greycat | The entire unix paradigm. Forever. |
| 20:29.19 | netzach | I knew in python I googled how to find the location of my own script |
| 20:29.23 | netzach | but not sure if it worked in all cases |
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| 20:29.31 | greycat | makeupp: you mean with their shell set to /bin/bash? |
| 20:29.33 | petemc | makeupp: grep bash /etc/passwd > list.txt |
| 20:29.47 | greycat | petemc: false positives |
| 20:29.50 | makeupp | no but i nedd just user |
| 20:29.59 | makeupp | withou ::blabla::blabla/blabal |
| 20:30.05 | greycat | makeupp: you mean users with their shell set to /bin/bash? |
| 20:30.15 | makeupp | yes |
| 20:30.55 | makeupp | user1:x:100/blablablabalbal cut just "user1" and save in list.txt |
| 20:31.14 | n4dir | i would go for awk, but would have to search the web too. |
| 20:31.18 | tremon | awk -F: '$7=="/bin/bash" { print $1; }' < /etc/passwd |
| 20:31.24 | greycat | makeupp: awk -F: '$7 == "/bin/bash" {print $1}' /etc/passwd |
| 20:31.27 | petemc | awk -F: '/bash/ {print $1}' /etc/passwd |
| 20:31.34 | greycat | petemc: no, false positives. |
| 20:31.40 | greycat | the username might be bashim |
| 20:31.49 | greycat | or calabash |
| 20:32.03 | petemc | heh, ok |
| 20:32.15 | makeupp | awk -F: '/bash/ {print $1}' /etc/passwd <- is perfect |
| 20:32.21 | makeupp | thanks *_* |
| 20:32.30 | greycat | *sigh* |
| 20:32.43 | petemc | bashir is a common name i hear |
| 20:33.00 | Hijo_Del_Agobio | How long time can dure the debian ISO image writing on a pendrive with the DD command? |
| 20:33.33 | tremon | it can easily take 30 minutes if the pendrive only knows usb 1.0 |
| 20:33.43 | greycat | /msg greybot b6 |
| 20:34.18 | petemc | awk -F: '/bin\/bash/ |
| 20:34.23 | makeupp | so, how can i duplicate the users in file.txt ? |
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| 20:34.31 | petemc | if there are people with bin/bash in their names i give up |
| 20:34.42 | greycat | makeupp: awk -F: '$7 == "/bin/bash" {print $1}' /etc/passwd > file.txt |
| 20:34.46 | makeupp | for exemple user1 user1 |
| 20:34.50 | greycat | what |
| 20:34.52 | makeupp | user2 user2 |
| 20:35.01 | greycat | makeupp: awk -F: '$7 == "/bin/bash" {print $1 " " $1}' /etc/passwd > file.txt |
| 20:35.27 | makeupp | oh god |
| 20:35.33 | makeupp | amazing |
| 20:35.34 | greycat | why would you want this |
| 20:35.37 | makeupp | :O |
| 20:35.39 | Hijo_Del_Agobio | tremon you refer that the DD command only works in a USB 1.0 mode? |
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| 20:36.23 | DrWatson | no |
| 20:36.23 | tremon | Hijo_Del_Agobio: yes, but I did say "if" |
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| 20:37.48 | Hijo_Del_Agobio | ah ok, but this penrive is an usb 2.0 i don-t understand tremon |
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| 20:38.35 | DrWatson | dd command works with usb 1 -3... |
| 20:38.54 | Hijo_Del_Agobio | ah ok |
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| 20:39.53 | Hijo_Del_Agobio | I dont see what is happening in the terminal. |
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| 20:40.35 | tremon | that is normal. dd doesn't display anything until it's finished |
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| 20:41.13 | tremon | you can run "pkill -USR1 dd" from another terminal to make it display its progress |
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| 20:44.11 | netzach | How can I find the folder that debian prefers systemd units to be located? |
| 20:44.14 | Hijo_Del_Agobio | 3994091520 bytes (4,0 GB, 3,7 GiB) copied, 1301,47 s, 3,1 MB/s, I think that it is finishedand correct |
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| 20:44.27 | greycat | netzach: *yours* go in /etc/systemd/system/ |
| 20:44.43 | greycat | unless you are creating a Debian package |
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| 20:45.08 | Hijo_Del_Agobio | I go to test the dwebian installer, thanks very much to people, bye |
| 20:45.08 | netzach | greycat: how come I have sshd there? isn't it created by a package? |
| 20:45.17 | greycat | it's an alias for ssh |
| 20:45.27 | greycat | apparently that's how aliases are done |
| 20:45.29 | netzach | I have multiple stuff there |
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| 20:45.39 | netzach | I even one that is a link to /dev/null |
| 20:45.40 | netzach | wWTF |
| 20:45.46 | greycat | I recommend not touching the ones you didn't put there yourself. |
| 20:45.46 | netzach | I have zfs.target.wants there greycat |
| 20:45.49 | netzach | instead of /lib |
| 20:46.09 | netzach | I read that package ones should go in /lib/systemd/system |
| 20:46.12 | netzach | and admin written ones there |
| 20:46.12 | tremon | links to /dev/null are because you did systemctl disable |
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| 20:46.18 | netzach | I never did that tho |
| 20:46.21 | netzach | must be disabled by something else |
| 20:46.53 | netzach | oh nvm you're right |
| 20:46.59 | netzach | they are all links to /lib/systemd |
| 20:47.05 | netzach | or dirs that contains links to lib stuff |
| 20:47.06 | netzach | ok |
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| 20:47.54 | netzach | how can I find network.target is wanted by whom? |
| 20:47.59 | netzach | since it's a target? |
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| 20:49.19 | netzach | man this is complicated |
| 20:49.26 | netzach | multi-user.target requires basic. target |
| 20:49.27 | tremon | you can look for other symlinks in .wants/ directories |
| 20:49.31 | netzach | basic.target requires sysinit.target |
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| 20:49.41 | netzach | but I can't find out who calls network.target |
| 20:49.43 | netzach | who starts that |
| 20:49.44 | greycat | I came up with systemctl list-dependencies --reverse network.target |
| 20:49.50 | greycat | but I can't tell whether it's correct or not |
| 20:50.14 | netzach | ok thank you that helped |
| 20:50.23 | netzach | it is used by networking and networking by multi-user.target |
| 20:50.26 | netzach | makes sense |
| 20:50.33 | netzach | thank you very much greycat |
| 20:50.49 | netzach | so if I want my service to start with linux I must want it by multi-user ? |
| 20:51.01 | netzach | like sshd does? |
| 20:51.28 | greycat | *Most* of the services you create should probably have WantedBy=multi-user.target |
| 20:51.51 | netzach | if I want to have a zfs mount available should I put it after zfs.target as well? |
| 20:51.56 | greycat | But the exact details will depend on what you're creating. |
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| 20:52.31 | netzach | I want to start a dlna (universeal media server) with linux |
| 20:52.48 | greycat | zfs is not my thing. Never used it, don't know anything about it. |
| 20:52.51 | tremon | netzach: you might want to read the [install] section of man systemd.unit, if you haven't yet |
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| 20:54.55 | tremon | it's probably better to use requisite=/path/to/data.mount than zfs.target |
| 20:55.25 | tremon | but I'm not exactly sure on how the mount targets interact at boot |
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| 20:56.00 | tremon | oh there's a separate RequiresMountsFor :) |
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| 20:59.14 | netzach | when I do systemctrl status myservice I get vendor preset: enabled |
| 20:59.16 | netzach | what does that mean? |
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| 21:01.29 | tremon | not sure, for custom units. it usually means that the unit is enabled in the default Debian setup. but I don't know how systemd determines that |
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| 21:03.29 | netzach | I stopped my unit and the status is now failed, code=existed status=143 |
| 21:03.35 | netzach | is it because it doesn'y return 0? |
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| 21:05.07 | tremon | probably |
| 21:05.26 | netzach | how do I echo the return code after running a command in bash? |
| 21:05.38 | tremon | echo $? |
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| 21:09.22 | brokencycle | Does anyone know why chromium sometimes duplicates an entire window, with all tabs inside? |
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| 21:10.09 | nvz | brokencycle: never seen that behavior but chromium seems to be a crapfest so I dont really use it |
| 21:10.42 | brokencycle | nvz: I don't like Chrome, but sometimes, I can't really use Firefox (my preferred browser). |
| 21:11.16 | nvz | brokencycle: the problem I refer to is that chromium is not chrome.. i've more often than not had issues with it working at all with rendering most stuff |
| 21:12.16 | nvz | brokencycle: I feel your pain though I'm on a very limited machine that will often lock up trying to use FF |
| 21:12.23 | brokencycle | Well, yes, Chromium's rendering is frequently a POS. But outside of FF, there are only Chrome and Chromium, basically. |
| 21:13.04 | brokencycle | Chrome is technically much better, but I don't like the non-free and the spyware bits of it. |
| 21:13.13 | nvz | brokencycle: I've been using mostly links2, but xombrero works ok for some things when I need JS, there is also midori, netsurf, w3m, etc |
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| 21:13.38 | brokencycle | Yuck. I frequently use websites which are very graphics- and JS heavy. |
| 21:14.02 | brokencycle | w3m and friends (I also like elinks) just don't cut it. Not their fault, |
| 21:14.14 | nvz | yeah well on limited hardware you sometimes have to do without those things or find other means of accessing them like stanalone programs. I use pianobar for pandora for example |
| 21:14.18 | brokencycle | but I can't have companies do away with all that JS stuff. |
| 21:14.43 | brokencycle | nvz: thanks for the pointers, I'll check these things out. |
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| 21:16.03 | nvz | rendering the modern web is about as much overhead as rendering opensim/secondlife anymore |
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| 21:20.37 | netzach | ok good thing systemd allows you to customize the custom exist code as scucess |
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| 21:21.22 | artyx | ? Like 0 == success? 1 == fail? |
| 21:21.38 | netzach | actually you can specify any code you consider susccess |
| 21:21.44 | netzach | https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service.html |
| 21:21.47 | netzach | SuccessExistCode |
| 21:22.04 | netzach | it seems artyx it's normal for some program to return the signal code in they case they exist due to a signal? |
| 21:22.26 | netzach | since systemd uses SigTERM, for some reason the JVM apparently returns 128+ Sigterm signal nr |
| 21:22.29 | netzach | or something like that |
| 21:22.41 | artyx | Well, i know that _proper_ apps have meaningful exit codes/abnormal end cods/etc .. but not every app will return error 8675309 |
| 21:22.53 | netzach | either way that seems to make it work ok now |
| 21:23.20 | nvz | artyx: heh |
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| 21:23.54 | artyx | nvz: Were you thinking about fish with anatomically incorrect posteriors? |
| 21:23.59 | artyx | or was it the # sequence |
| 21:24.06 | nvz | artyx: the number sequence |
| 21:24.13 | artyx | One of my users forgot his voicemail pass |
| 21:24.17 | artyx | .. fourth time in six months |
| 21:24.27 | artyx | I set that ot it.. now the dudes humming everytime he checks voicemail lmao |
| 21:25.09 | nvz | heh. I find music from that time period rather annoying but I can't deny that one was catchy enough to get stuck in my head |
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| 21:26.29 | nvz | I heard some of that do-wop kinda crap when I was in the grocery the other day and I started thinking about dropping my stuff and running out of the store screaming. It remided me of Bob Seger's sentiment that "in ten minutes I'd be late for the door" |
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| 21:28.04 | oaks | hey, i need to disable a password for root login, i have done sudo passwd -d root , i have verified there is nothing for root in the /etc/shadow file, i have challuk nullock-secure to nulllock on the /etc/pam.d/common-auth , i can su to root with no password needed, but if i use putty and login with root, and just hit enter, it says access denied, and i can see the /var/log/auth.log showing "bad password for |
| 21:28.10 | oaks | user root, failed login".... what do i have to do to truly disable a password requirement for root? |
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| 21:28.47 | artyx | https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.service.html |
| 21:29.08 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.09 | artyx | Oops. ignore that. sorry. i clicked right mouse by accident |
| 21:29.29 | nvz | oaks: what you're doing is rather excessive and dangerous, you're literally trying to allow root to have no password rather than disabling the account and using a secure method |
| 21:29.42 | artyx | Wouldn't it be better to att ttyS* to /dev/securetty ? |
| 21:29.47 | oaks | i know what i m doing it for, its ok, its a local beaglebone just for me. |
| 21:29.58 | artyx | Like .. make all possible terminals a nono for root |
| 21:30.08 | oaks | su - works without asking for a password at all |
| 21:30.39 | Brigo | oaks, then maybe is the ssh server cofiguration. |
| 21:30.54 | nvz | there is allowrootlogins in sshd config |
| 21:31.07 | nvz | and also UsePam |
| 21:31.46 | nvz | both of which would need to be set to yes in this case |
| 21:31.48 | artyx | SU_WHEEL_ONLY .. what sthe new version .. pam.d something? su ? |
| 21:32.35 | oaks | i have changed nulllock-secure to nulllock in the /etc/pam.d/common-auth file |
| 21:33.15 | oaks | where is the sshd server config that i can do "enable login with root and no password?" |
| 21:33.19 | nvz | what we are saying is, if su works and ssh doesnt, then obviously its ssh tht is not respecting your config |
| 21:33.38 | oaks | oh .. googled... found it |
| 21:33.42 | nvz | oaks: /etc/ssh/sshd_config but the strange part here is that both those options are yes by default |
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| 21:34.45 | nvz | first SSH has to use pam for auth in the first place "UsePam yes" and it also has to allow root login |
| 21:35.20 | oaks | shoul i set usepan to no? |
| 21:35.28 | oaks | usepam i mean. |
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| 21:36.16 | nvz | oaks: since the configuration you done is in Pam, you want it to use Pam |
| 21:36.34 | oaks | there is no "allowrootlogin" in the sshdconfig file |
| 21:37.07 | nvz | oaks: PermitRootLogin |
| 21:37.24 | netzach | Help |
| 21:37.35 | netzach | for some reason my bounded network changed mac addresses :( |
| 21:37.36 | netzach | why? |
| 21:37.38 | netzach | sadness |
| 21:38.49 | oaks | there is a wierd commented out paragraph about allow root login... |
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| 21:39.38 | oaks | i see #permitrootlogin prohibit-password |
| 21:39.52 | oaks | seems like un commenting that is not what i want. |
| 21:40.03 | nvz | oaks: you also need PermitEmptyPasswords |
| 21:40.24 | oaks | and... do i need to service sshd restart to make the changes live? |
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| 21:40.52 | nvz | oaks: "UsePam yes" "PermitEmptyPasswords yes" "PermitRootLogin yes" |
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| 21:41.38 | nvz | oaks: yes you do |
| 21:41.45 | nvz | oaks: but its ssh I believe, not sshd |
| 21:42.02 | netzach | I am readin this |
| 21:42.04 | netzach | https://access.redhat.com/solutions/70215 |
| 21:42.08 | netzach | how can I do the same in debian? |
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| 21:44.24 | nvz | netzach: thats actually not a simple question to answer because its less distro-specific and more adapter specific. Some adapters can set mac via interfaces config, some only through the driver/kernel options |
| 21:44.45 | nvz | mine for example can't do it through interfaces, it has to do it when loading the driver |
| 21:45.36 | netzach | mine can do it through interfaces nvz , since I tried a specific mode for bonding xor or something |
| 21:45.40 | netzach | and I tested it and it works |
| 21:47.07 | nvz | netzach: well if it can do it through interfaces then just setting those options in /etc/network/interfaces would suffice or in an /etc/network/interfaces.d/ file |
| 21:47.21 | netzach | which options? |
| 21:47.59 | nvz | hwaddress 00:00:00:00:00:00 or such |
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| 21:48.34 | nvz | doesn't work for me, "modinfo 8189fs" reveals "parm: rtw_initmac:charp" which must be set on driver load |
| 21:49.11 | netzach | nvz: but I searched and it says on debian it's different than redhat |
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| 21:51.19 | oaks | thanks. that worked. saved day...... irc rules. debian is awesome, you guys rock. karma++ for you |
| 21:51.21 | nvz | oh well then its gotta be true.. cause you searched.. even though "man 5 interfaces" says to do it like this |
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| 21:51.36 | netzach | I have enabled a systemd service but it still doesn't start with linux |
| 21:51.37 | netzach | why? |
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| 21:51.56 | nvz | like I said some adapters cant do it.. they cant change mac on the fly, they have to do it when they load the driver/firmware |
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| 21:53.52 | nvz | when you tell me your adapter can do it, that makes me think you already suceeded in doing so or you are just gullible and believing things you read that have no application to your hardware/os |
| 21:54.19 | nvz | I however HAVE done this.. recently no less.. on debian |
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| 22:32.56 | makeupp | just my ip in internet |
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| 22:47.42 | joegiampaoli | Hello, how can I "undo" or remove this from daily "sudo /etc/cron.daily/prelink" can I just cd to that dir and do a normal rm? |
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| 23:02.43 | LTCD | Hey. My HDD has sort of failed so I can't boot either Debian or Windows (I have dualboot). Luckily I can still access HDD via a live Linux on a USB. While I had no problems with copying my Windows files, sadly I encrypted the Linux Home parition and root has a password etc... Could someone please walk me through how I can access that stuff to make a copy? Thanks. |
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| 23:03.27 | annadane | i am assuming you don't have root then |
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| 23:07.24 | annadane | i mean, if it's encrypted then i doubt you can get at it if you don't have the pw |
| 23:08.10 | LTCD | I have the password. |
| 23:08.51 | LTCD | annadane I have root password and the login password which I think decrypts Home partition. |
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| 23:09.10 | LTCD | I'm accessing it via a live Linux USB. How can I access that stuff? |
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| 23:09.31 | annadane | probably using chroot but i'm not familiar with it so i couldn't tell you exactly how |
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| 23:12.58 | tesko | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:13.29 | LTCD | annadane Shoot I need to find out ASAP, need to format HDD because they take my laptop away for repairs. |
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| 23:34.15 | MrMonkey22 | LTCD, I believe I used the primer found at: https://www.cyberciti.biz/hardware/howto-linux-hard-disk-encryption-with-luks-cryptsetup-command . it taught me how to work partition level encryption schemes |
| 23:34.49 | LTCD | MrMonkey22 Someone suggested this on another channel https://askubuntu.com/questions/653408/mounting-encrypted-luks-partition-from-live-cd |
| 23:35.02 | MrMonkey22 | k k :} |
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| 23:39.59 | LTCD | MrMonkey22 Unless that page I provided isn't good? |
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