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| 00:44.29 | Hooloovo0 | what? |
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| 01:19.52 | N0Lif3 | are official builds of Debian good on Raspberry Pi3 nowadays? |
| 01:20.02 | N0Lif3 | Raspbian is disgusting. I hate it |
| 01:20.12 | N0Lif3 | it's a bloated mess |
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| 01:20.31 | N0Lif3 | and apt-get update doesn't work |
| 01:20.41 | N0Lif3 | ~LOVE~ Debian on my laptop |
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| 01:20.44 | N0Lif3 | works perfect |
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| 01:22.04 | N0Lif3 | I just read a year old forum post that the official ARM build of debian didn't support wifi on a Pi3 |
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| 01:23.32 | fidy | Does anyone know of a good tutorial for steam installation on Debian 64-bit? |
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| 01:24.45 | N0Lif3 | fidy: hold on a sec, I'll give you a hand. do you haev debian stretch? |
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| 01:25.17 | N0Lif3 | i'll fire up my laptop and give you the apt list I use for installing Steam |
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| 01:25.26 | fidy | N0Lif3, Looks like JollyRoger. |
| 01:25.35 | N0Lif3 | I wish |
| 01:25.55 | N0Lif3 | wearing an eyepatch and a pegleg would be so cool |
| 01:26.42 | N0Lif3 | fidy: do you know how to add to your sources.list? |
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| 01:27.03 | fidy | N0Lif3, vaguely, I'm returning to Linux after some time out. |
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| 01:27.32 | N0Lif3 | deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian stretch contrib non-free |
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| 01:27.49 | N0Lif3 | add that, save it. then apt-get update and then you can apt-get install steam |
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| 01:29.26 | N0Lif3 | fidy: a cool little trick too that I've discovered. try installing the Windows version of Steam using Wine alongside your Linux version |
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| 01:30.04 | N0Lif3 | when you boot a Windows game in Windows-Steam with Wine, it'll automatically launch the game using Wine. It's like magic |
| 01:30.10 | N0Lif3 | and a bunch of games just work |
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| 01:38.12 | fidy | N0Lif3, added the repo, ran update and than install steam still no joy. the icons are there but nothing happens when I click or alt-f2 the command. no error - nothing |
| 01:38.42 | N0Lif3 | it takes time, Steam is a huge install |
| 01:38.49 | N0Lif3 | it may take a while |
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| 01:39.05 | N0Lif3 | it's seriously like 2gigabytes for all the stuff they put in it |
| 01:39.17 | fidy | The Wine trick sounds cool, i just rebuilt this laptop. Had 32-bit ParrotOS installed and steam 'worked' fine. Because of some limitations I changed it today to 64-bit. |
| 01:39.32 | N0Lif3 | it really is. |
| 01:39.50 | annadane | you're using parrot, not debian? |
| 01:40.08 | N0Lif3 | he said "had" |
| 01:40.10 | fidy | annadane, I was under the impression Parrot was a Debian distro? |
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| 01:40.24 | annadane | yes, but debian-based distributions aren't supported in this channel |
| 01:40.28 | annadane | !parrot |
| 01:40.28 | dpkg | Parrot OS (https://www.parrotsec.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution. It is based on Debian testing, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #parrot on irc.frozenbox.org or try the mailing lists at http://lists.parrotsec.org/listinfo. Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 01:40.40 | fidy | so sorry guys |
| 01:40.58 | N0Lif3 | well, I mean, if you're using parrot right now then that could be a problem |
| 01:41.33 | fidy | it worked fine on 32-bit, some limitations with games and what not. |
| 01:41.45 | fidy | but I know the issues are random |
| 01:41.49 | N0Lif3 | I'm sure most people here will say to use stable Debian, but I'm really liking Debian Stretch which has more recent versions of software. |
| 01:42.06 | tw | https://wiki.debian.org/Steam |
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| 01:43.05 | McErroneous | !annadane |
| 01:43.11 | tw | A little dated, I don't know if fglrx-glx exists anymore. |
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| 01:56.42 | aloo_shu | is there any channel where knowledge and support on debian based didtros, let's say such that use dpkg and debian repos plus some own extras, is conveniently pooled, since evidently both problems and expertise will often overlap? |
| 01:57.15 | aloo_shu | s/didtros/distros |
| 01:57.27 | Fruitcakes | Hey guy if i want to cp a .img file to a block device like /dev/sdc whats the procedure for some reason everytime i do cp file.img /dev/sdc it doesnt work |
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| 01:58.03 | aloo_shu | giving which msg? if any |
| 01:58.15 | Fruitcakes | I use lsblk so i know i have the correct block device |
| 02:00.24 | aloo_shu | Fruitcake, you cannot copy to a device (wit cp). you can copy to the filesystem *on* the device, for that it must be *mounted* |
| 02:00.47 | tw | you can totally copy an image like that with gnu coreutils. |
| 02:01.03 | Fruitcakes | So id have to cp to sdc1 ? |
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| 02:01.29 | tw | Fruitcakes: depends on if you want it to go to a partition or to the raw device. |
| 02:01.57 | Fruitcakes | Tw i want raw device |
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| 02:02.59 | tw | Image file has its own partition table? Like if you kpartx -l your.img it has partitions? |
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| 02:03.22 | Fruitcakes | Tw yes its a raspbian image |
| 02:03.55 | tw | What's the error you're getting? |
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| 02:04.13 | Fruitcakes | Im pretty sure i used cp before to do this but it wont work now |
| 02:04.24 | Fruitcakes | Tw no error |
| 02:04.27 | aloo_shu | why cp not dd? |
| 02:04.33 | McErroneous | Hi, there was a software to monitor network-traffic using ncurses.... |
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| 02:04.36 | McErroneous | somebody ? |
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| 02:04.50 | Fruitcakes | Just a blank flash drive after running cp img |
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| 02:05.32 | tw | McErroneous: nload, iptraf-ng? |
| 02:05.41 | Fruitcakes | The cp method was easier to remember |
| 02:05.54 | McErroneous | tw.., AEAH.... right iptraf... |
| 02:05.56 | McErroneous | thx.. |
| 02:05.58 | EnchanterTim | iptraf? |
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| 02:06.25 | aloo_shu | Fruitcake do you have a way to make sure the image is ok, not empty? |
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| 02:06.31 | EnchanterTim | https://www.wireshark.org/docs/man-pages/tshark.html there is also tshark |
| 02:06.55 | EnchanterTim | and tcpdump |
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| 02:07.10 | Fruitcakes | Aloo ive re downloaded raspbian image etc no luck |
| 02:07.23 | EnchanterTim | !raspbian |
| 02:07.23 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 02:07.51 | EnchanterTim | If you wish to know how to copy a debian ISO to a USB flash disk, please consult the install guide for debian |
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| 02:08.01 | Fruitcakes | Ffs im using debian trying to copy a raspbian image to a flash drive |
| 02:08.05 | EnchanterTim | Try /msg dpkg i-g |
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| 02:08.29 | Fruitcakes | Your so quick to play petty games around here |
| 02:08.45 | aloo_shu | but I would do dd if=path-to-img of=/dev/correctdevice , Fruitcake |
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| 02:08.49 | EnchanterTim | I'm too quick to point you to a guide that shows you how to put images on a flash disk. |
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| 02:09.18 | EnchanterTim | of course, you need write access to the device. |
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| 02:09.36 | EnchanterTim | cp or dd, either would work. |
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| 02:09.50 | aloo_shu | try dd if=path-to-img of=/dev/correctdevice bs=4M to be potentially faster, Fruitcake |
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| 02:09.56 | Fruitcakes | Aloo shu do i need to include the 4mb part of the typical dd |
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| 02:10.42 | Fruitcakes | Enchanter cp has randomly quit working and idk why |
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| 02:11.14 | aloo_shu | not if you do not mind speed, Fruitcake. dd happens to default to transporting in very small blocks |
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| 02:11.46 | Fruitcakes | Aloo thanks man much appreciated |
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| 02:11.52 | EnchanterTim | apt-get install pv; pv file.iso > /dev/sdX (to see progress) |
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| 02:12.15 | EnchanterTim | you need not specify the blocksize. |
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| 02:12.52 | aloo_shu | but given that the image is probably to run off a sd card later and only raspberry freaks will know how it should look, no harm in asking there |
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| 02:21.36 | christianpoveda | Hey hi! I have a question, I just installed the firmware-atheros package and after rebooting I'm still getting some messages saying stuff like "firmware: failed to load ath10k/..." do you guys have any idea why? |
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| 03:34.35 | glitch | Please advise I am trying to install yum with |
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| 03:34.41 | glitch | yum install wget system-config-firewall-tui openssh-clients kernel-devel-2.6.32-358.el6.i686 libcurl-devel ncurses-devel compat-libstdc++-33 screen xterm |
| 03:35.07 | eck | yeah |
| 03:35.13 | eck | that might work |
| 03:35.17 | glitch | but I get the error $There are no enabled repos |
| 03:35.17 | eck | it probably won't though |
| 03:35.33 | eck | maybe you should use apt |
| 03:35.39 | glitch | ok |
| 03:35.50 | glitch | apt-get ? |
| 03:36.33 | eck | it's worth a shot |
| 03:37.03 | eck | and probaby -dev instead of -devel, among other changes |
| 03:38.10 | glitch | says $ Invalid operation yum |
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| 03:39.23 | eck | that sounds right to me |
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| 03:39.53 | eck | i don't think yum is a valid operation |
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| 03:41.12 | glitch | I suspect your humoring me eck is there a tutorial you'd point me to? |
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| 03:47.07 | christianpoveda | guys could you give me a hand? |
| 03:47.25 | annadane | only if you ask your question... |
| 03:47.45 | christianpoveda | I just installed the firmware-atheros package and after rebooting I'm still getting some messages saying stuff like "firmware: failed to load ath10k/..." do you guys have any idea why? |
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| 03:47.56 | annadane | eck, just apt install yum |
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| 03:51.40 | annadane | christian, i actually don't know why that happens |
| 03:51.48 | annadane | sorry |
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| 03:52.32 | christianpoveda | :( |
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| 03:53.57 | glitch | yum was already installed. What I'm trying to do is install cgminer and the tutorial says the for mentioned is required pkgs |
| 03:54.41 | glitch | here's the link |
| 03:54.44 | glitch | http://truemetal.org/universe/blog/2013/05/howto-cgminer-bitcoin-litecoin-etc-amd-driver-install-on-centos/ |
| 03:55.06 | annadane | glitch, cgminer is already packaged for stretch. just apt install cgminer |
| 03:55.24 | glitch | I'm on jessie |
| 03:55.28 | annadane | eck, sorry, wrong highlight |
| 03:55.34 | annadane | glitch, it's in jessie as well |
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| 03:55.56 | eck | .. |
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| 03:59.33 | onlyjoke_ | guys I got a problem with booting, sometimes when I shut down my pc or boot it up, it has to wait 1:30 minutes before booted up / shut down |
| 04:00.16 | onlyjoke_ | it gives me text : a start job is running for dev-disk-by-..... |
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| 04:01.01 | EnchanterTim | onlyjoke_: the start job is usually an fsck, but how are you shutting down? |
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| 04:04.20 | onlyjoke_ | EnchanterTim I use terminal then type sudo poweroff -p |
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| 05:16.31 | la-o-wai | debian ä¸æï¼ |
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| 05:21.16 | annadane | !zh |
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| 05:21.38 | annadane | la-o-wai, ^ |
| 05:22.08 | la-o-wai | thx |
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| 05:36.41 | n-iCe | hi |
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| 05:38.12 | fishguts | Hi. I am having trouble with alsa. I can't get anything to play. cat /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/status shows RUNNING when I play a wav file with aplay. |
| 05:38.19 | fishguts | But the file never plays. |
| 05:38.33 | fishguts | And no sound is made. |
| 05:39.04 | fishguts | By sound not playing I mean the aplay tries to play the file but can't get past the first second. mpv displays the same behaviour. |
| 05:39.16 | annadane | !alsa checklist |
| 05:39.17 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
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| 05:39.45 | la-o-wai | netrace: hi |
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| 05:41.37 | fishguts | 1. I'm in audio. 2. Tried that. 3. pulseaudio is uninstalled. 4. Yes. 5. No, same thing. 6. There are no oss packages. |
| 05:41.52 | fishguts | I don't know what you mean about the last bit, "list alsa users". |
| 05:42.35 | annadane | commands in parentheses are just things you can also ask dpkg about |
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| 05:43.30 | fishguts | aplay opens the wav file but can't play it. Like this: http://sprunge.us/NGYD |
| 05:43.44 | fishguts | The only package installed with alsa in the name is alsa-utils |
| 05:44.40 | fishguts | I could have caused/randomly experienced a geniune hardware failure. These NTC Chip computers can be temperamental. |
| 05:44.59 | fishguts | I also only installed userland pulseaudio stuff before this problem occured. I didn't update the kernel. |
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| 05:54.53 | la-o-wai | fishguts: maybe get a mp3 |
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| 05:55.55 | fishguts | I've tried an mp3, it does the same thing (using mpv it never plays, says it is playing but stays at 0:00). |
| 05:58.12 | fishguts | I've looked at the help forums for the computer (NTC Chip) and there is someone who had the same problem. |
| 05:58.28 | fishguts | Two solutions are suggested. The first is "used audio mixer program under multimedia, and select controls button, and click all the options on for the soundcard." |
| 05:58.41 | fishguts | I don't know how to do that from the command line or what it really means though. |
| 05:58.46 | la-o-wai | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.12 | fishguts | The other solution is to restore the /var/lib/alsa/asound.state from when the sound was working. I don't have a backup of that however. |
| 05:59.30 | fishguts | https://bbs.nextthing.co/t/help-on-sound-issues/3874/5 |
| 06:00.02 | fishguts | Debian can play an mp3. |
| 06:00.27 | fishguts | Well, it doesn't seem to have any problem with the mp3 decoding. Just the output to an alsa device. |
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| 06:01.14 | la-o-wai | knock the loudspeakers |
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| 06:01.30 | la-o-wai | sometimes works |
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| 06:02.00 | fishguts | Ha. I don't think the issue is the speakers. The issue is an input/output error on the audio device. |
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| 06:03.11 | fishguts | I could just wipe out the Chip and write a new filesystem image, but I'd rather figure out what's going on. |
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| 06:10.59 | aloo_shu | pulseaduio you have, fishguts? right click on speaker symbol should give mixer or controls option, when you are there, you can test device and look around inside pulse generally |
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| 06:11.46 | fishguts | No I don't have pulseaudio. It was installed when this problem startedd but I've now uninstalled it. |
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| 06:11.53 | fishguts | This is also a headless computer. |
| 06:12.34 | aloo_shu | ooof |
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| 06:16.55 | fishguts | The boot log doesn't seem to show any sound device related errors. Is there somewhere else I should be asking about this sort of problem? It's not strictly Debian related. |
| 06:17.05 | aloo_shu | fishguts alsamixer you get with alsamixer read up on alsa with man, if you can, a |
| 06:17.35 | aloo_shu | alsactl i think is the command to control alsa , fishguts |
| 06:18.08 | aloo_shu | the man page ought to enable you to see if alsa is using the right card |
| 06:18.24 | aloo_shu | to check, i mean |
| 06:18.51 | at0m | "aplay -l" lists audio devices, also /proc/asound/card* |
| 06:19.19 | at0m | aplay -l lists playback devices, arecord -r the input devices |
| 06:19.25 | at0m | grr arecord -l |
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| 06:21.04 | fishguts | Yep. There's only one card. It's outputting to the right card because I can see the state change from closed to RUNNING in /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/status |
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| 06:21.12 | at0m | check your permissions, too. is the user in the audio group? did user log out and back in after being added to audio group? if above commands output the right card when ran as root, it's a permissions issue |
| 06:21.21 | at0m | ok |
| 06:21.27 | fishguts | Yes the user is in the audio group. I have tried rebooting. Root does not help. |
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| 06:26.33 | aloo_shu | fishguts you could try your luck in #ardour , it is absolutely not their problem, but there are some audio cracks around |
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| 06:27.36 | at0m | #alsa, actually |
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| 06:29.22 | aloo_shu | I have never been in #alsa, #ardour maintain and develop a didital audio workstation and hence have troubleshot lots of werid scenarios. but they can no, it's an ardour support channel, not alsa, that's clear |
| 06:29.53 | at0m | i know, i'm in #ardour |
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| 06:30.11 | aloo_shu | omg, I should have known |
| 06:30.58 | fishguts | Well i've asked in ardour as you've probably seen at0m. I'll ask in alsa also. Thanks. |
| 06:31.46 | fishguts | I'll also try in the raspberry pi and linux-sunxi channel. Does anyone know of any other embedded device channels? |
| 06:33.38 | aloo_shu | is it possible to run dpkg-reconfigure on alsa? |
| 06:35.59 | aloo_shu | alsamixer runs in terminal, if you want to rule out muting |
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| 06:39.18 | fishguts | I have unmuted all the channels. |
| 06:39.45 | fishguts | Which package should I reconfigure? "alsa" is not a package. "alsa-utils" returns nothing when reconfigured. |
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| 06:42.22 | aloo_shu | blank here also, that's why that was a question on my side rather. I am on android device and cannot quickly check on my laptop |
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| 06:44.08 | fishguts | Sure. |
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| 07:11.31 | gunix | how do i close gnome3 on debian to have only the server part of it? |
| 07:11.45 | gunix | i usually reboot and add 3 to linux line in grub and it boots with cli mode. |
| 07:11.54 | gunix | but i would like to do it without reboot |
| 07:11.58 | gunix | any ideas? |
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| 07:12.46 | dionysus69 | have problem selecting terminator with alt + tab |
| 07:12.48 | dionysus69 | on gnome |
| 07:13.01 | dionysus69 | what is the problem ? :S it doesnt focus unless I click mouse on it |
| 07:13.10 | th0r | gunix, you might try 'init 3'. but that is old info and may not work |
| 07:13.23 | gunix | th0r: i said without rebooting :D |
| 07:13.29 | Tybor | gunix: systemctl stop gdm3 ? |
| 07:13.38 | gunix | Tybor: i wanted to try that out now |
| 07:13.47 | gunix | Tybor: thank you for confirmation. see you guys! |
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| 07:17.05 | gunix | nevermind, i ended up rebooting. systemctl stop gdm did not work |
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| 07:20.29 | Tybor | gunix:have you run it as.root or using Sudoku? |
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| 07:38.07 | hexhaxtron | Can someone help me with this? https://paste.debian.net/989260/ |
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| 07:44.37 | jim | kbob, are you here? |
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| 07:59.52 | dexta | gm |
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| 08:01.58 | jim | if someone sees kbob before I do, tell him he probably has a debian package cacher daemon that needs reconfiguring or replacing... I backported sid (3.5) version of apt-cacher-ng to jessie, and now things are working fine: I can apt-get update and everything else |
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| 08:03.28 | kbob | jim, good, thank you |
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| 08:11.30 | jim | oh you're here, good |
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| 08:13.04 | jim | I had to take the cache off the apt-get by editing /etc/apt/apt.conf and commenting the apt-cacher line out, then I could install packages from the net again |
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| 08:18.31 | kbob | jim, ok |
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| 08:19.24 | kbob | jim, tomorrow I will try |
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| 08:21.52 | envirit | hi |
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| 08:22.31 | envirit | is there any tutorial on how to remotely (through ssh) install fresh system, then ssh to it and remove previous system? |
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| 08:28.05 | n4dir | the remove system has a free partition ? |
| 08:28.10 | n4dir | ups: remote |
| 08:28.51 | envirit | not quite |
| 08:28.56 | envirit | i have free disk space |
| 08:29.23 | envirit | where i was planning to install new system with debootstrap, then set up grub so it will boot into new system instead of the previous |
| 08:29.36 | envirit | but i need it in the form of tutorial, because i have only 1 try |
| 08:30.01 | n4dir | uhum. so ssh to the installed system, create a partition, mount it, run debootsrap ? |
| 08:30.12 | envirit | if i fail then i have no option of reverting to the previous sytem since my vps provider dont provide the option to install fresh os |
| 08:30.16 | envirit | yes |
| 08:30.20 | envirit | something like that |
| 08:30.22 | n4dir | got you. i am not aware of such a tutorial. |
| 08:30.26 | envirit | damn |
| 08:30.30 | envirit | thanks anyways |
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| 08:31.02 | n4dir | sounds like something not too hard, but with only one try ... |
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| 08:31.55 | n4dir | just leave the old system alone? |
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| 08:32.29 | envirit | i realised that i have more tries :D, i made snapshot of current ssytem |
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| 08:32.38 | envirit | in case of failure i can revert that snapshot |
| 08:32.43 | n4dir | cool. good luck. :-) |
| 08:33.16 | envirit | i will use this https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apds03.html.en |
| 08:33.17 | n4dir | still: why not just leave the old system alone? Seems like a safe thing to do |
| 08:33.30 | envirit | old system is flooded with a lot of the things |
| 08:33.52 | envirit | its easier to install fresh one than to manually remove every unnecesary package |
| 08:34.36 | n4dir | yeah. i mean, install debian via debootsrap on the free space, but just let the old system idle around (you can still mount it and use the free space from it, in case you are in need) |
| 08:35.02 | n4dir | i guess i would prefer your method too, just a weird idea |
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| 08:54.30 | hexhaxtron | I lost connection to my machine... |
| 08:54.31 | hexhaxtron | ssh: connect to host thunix.org port 22: No route to host |
| 08:54.39 | hexhaxtron | What should I do? |
| 08:54.59 | hexhaxtron | I can reset the machine on the Power button but... is there something else I should do? |
| 08:55.28 | AndreasLutro | no route to host sounds like a networking issue, rebooting might not help |
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| 08:55.40 | AndreasLutro | but could also be you screwing up iptables |
| 08:55.54 | ultimatesec | hey everyone |
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| 09:02.16 | Iridos | Check network cable ^^ |
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| 09:22.19 | towo^work | hexhaxtron, if you haven't installed the blob, it's using the free driver |
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| 09:22.31 | towo^work | hexhaxtron, debian does not ship the blob as default |
| 09:22.39 | thms_ | he following packages will be removed: db4.8-util{u} libev3{u} libjpeg62{u} libjs-mootools{u} libnl1{u} libopendkim1{u} libxml-libxml-perl{u} libxml-namespacesupport-perl{u} libxml-sax-perl{u} libxml-simple-perl{u} |
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| 09:23.24 | thms_ | I can't tell what {u} means... for exmeple libev3 becomes libev4 (squeeze -> wheezy), but there is an upgrade for libjpeg62 (if I do aptitude install libjpeg62 it wants to upgrade it) |
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| 09:33.57 | thms_ | Where can I find what all those letters (u, U, i, ii) of dpkg -l means ? Same goes for aptitude when it shows libjpeg62{u}, I can't find this anywhere |
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| 09:36.38 | thms_ | Erm, dpkg -l | head -3 |
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| 09:44.12 | jolt | thms_: man dpkg-query |
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| 10:05.13 | tdn | I see messages such as these en my syslog: ntpd[1157]: receive: KoD packet from 77.68.158.228 has inconsistent xmt/org/rec timestamps. Ignoring. <--- Any reason to be concerned, or should I ignore these messages in my log monitoring? |
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| 10:13.57 | timkofu | hi |
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| 10:14.06 | timkofu | I have made a package with checkinstall |
| 10:14.14 | timkofu | but the deb is binary only |
| 10:14.21 | timkofu | how can i make a "dev" deb? |
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| 10:21.59 | timkofu | anyone? |
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| 10:24.12 | dionysus69 | I have env var in /etc/environment without export and it works |
| 10:24.19 | dionysus69 | is that expected? |
| 10:24.28 | dionysus69 | I am seeing examples online using export |
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| 10:28.23 | sdx23 | timkofu: that's not the intended use of checkinstall, so I guess no. |
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| 10:30.07 | ebarrett | If i were to stash a qemu image of a fresh debian install before first boot, I could use the image as a template for new VMs and each would get its own unique SSH and SSL keys, right? |
| 10:30.10 | nix64bit | I am getting a freeze on machine, no error message it just stops working - seems to be related to memory usage but I cant track the error because there isnt one |
| 10:30.56 | sdx23 | nix64bit: run memtest |
| 10:32.09 | nix64bit | its not installed yet let me do that |
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| 10:32.30 | ebarrett | nix64bit: what kernel? |
| 10:32.40 | nix64bit | latest |
| 10:32.56 | sdx23 | ebarrett: i'd guess the keys are generated at installation time (of openssh-server). So no. You could regenerate them though. |
| 10:33.11 | ebarrett | i know that newer kernels respect `ulimit -d`, so you might be able to limit memory usage if you suspect a process is using too much memory and causing OOM |
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| 10:33.20 | ebarrett | sdx23: ah, that's a shame |
| 10:33.25 | ebarrett | but not a disaster |
| 10:33.37 | ebarrett | i'll test it anyway and get back to you |
| 10:34.54 | ebarrett | sdx23: i think you are right though |
| 10:35.15 | ebarrett | they are likely to be generated by dpkg --configure |
| 10:35.29 | ebarrett | at package install time |
| 10:36.05 | ebarrett | https://wiki.debian.org/SSH#Regenerating_host_keys |
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| 10:39.34 | nix64bit | i ran memtester 5 1 |
| 10:39.39 | nix64bit | no errors |
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| 10:40.17 | nix64bit | Mem: 3083360 1871880 135032 113268 1076448 906132 |
| 10:40.21 | nix64bit | from free |
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| 10:51.38 | nix64bit | any ideas? |
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| 10:54.17 | nix64bit | uname -r 4.9.0-3-amd64 |
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| 10:55.36 | nix64bit | ulimit -d unlimited |
| 10:56.26 | ebarrett | right, so that allows any process to use as much heap as it likes |
| 10:57.11 | ebarrett | if you can figure out how to lower the default, a process allocating over this would have its malloc()s fail |
| 10:57.19 | nix64bit | so i guess i llok for the mem hogs and limit them? |
| 10:58.24 | dionysus69 | libmysqlclient-dev doesnt exist anymore, which package replaced it? |
| 10:59.45 | nix64bit | i see so its not that simple |
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| 11:00.30 | ebarrett | nix64bit: good luck! |
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| 11:00.50 | nix64bit | I may just get a new machine |
| 11:00.52 | jolt | dionysus69: well, I think stuff defaults to mariadb now, so libmariadbclient-dev perhaps |
| 11:01.05 | nix64bit | thanks |
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| 11:01.08 | dionysus69 | omg this mysql mariathing, thanks jolt |
| 11:01.33 | nix64bit | i thik postgres is the new mysql ;) |
| 11:02.04 | jolt | Switched over to mariadb cluster during the summer, so far it looks reallt awesome |
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| 11:02.46 | dionysus69 | nix64bit: I am for postgres, some other team project so I am forced with mysql |
| 11:03.18 | qoreQyaS | nix64bit: u ran "memtester 5 1"? |
| 11:03.25 | nix64bit | I dont have any real prefernces |
| 11:03.33 | nix64bit | qoreQyaS: what is that? |
| 11:03.41 | nix64bit | yes i did |
| 11:03.42 | babilen | nix64bit: That wouldn't really be an automatic transition |
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| 11:04.03 | qoreQyaS | nix64bit: so u checked 5 megabytes of ram, with 1 run |
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| 11:04.11 | nix64bit | yes |
| 11:04.23 | nix64bit | no errors |
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| 11:05.41 | nix64bit | qoreQyaS: is there a more in depth way of using memtester? |
| 11:06.23 | qoreQyaS | afaik running memtest on a running system does not work out well because the memory already in use isnt checked (if it would your system would crash), you should boot some memtester system. second your only checked 5mb of your ram, how much do you have? |
| 11:09.02 | nix64bit | 3083360 |
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| 11:09.49 | nix64bit | is there a way to test max |
| 11:09.58 | qoreQyaS | sorry, it was more a rhetorical question ;) |
| 11:10.07 | nix64bit | haha |
| 11:10.21 | nix64bit | i see that now |
| 11:10.23 | qoreQyaS | you should download a bootable memtest image, boot that and check the RAM there. |
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| 11:10.46 | nix64bit | sounds like a lot of work |
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| 11:11.36 | qoreQyaS | "i've got a girlfriend and things to get done. the linux os sucks" |
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| 11:12.15 | nix64bit | i actually have a client who wants stuff done |
| 11:12.29 | qoreQyaS | nix64bit: the RAM which is currently in use by your running system can't be checked. |
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| 11:12.50 | qoreQyaS | if you want to check the RAM there is no way around that |
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| 11:13.07 | nix64bit | thanks |
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| 11:13.46 | qoreQyaS | pleasure, sry for sarcasm |
| 11:13.52 | nix64bit | i can look in the box and see if the cat didn't take some memory out |
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| 11:14.04 | nix64bit | np |
| 11:14.26 | nix64bit | nope its all there sorry to doubt you cat |
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| 11:16.17 | qoreQyaS | cats prefer non volatile memory |
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| 11:18.01 | ebarrett | sdx23: there's no "ssl host key" to speak of right? |
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| 11:18.13 | ebarrett | you'd make certs per application |
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| 11:29.50 | sdx23 | ebarrett: yes and no. You can certainly use the same certificate for multiple if you set it up accordingly, but whether that's the way to go depends. |
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| 11:47.12 | qoreQyaS | ebarrett: have a look at debian preseeding |
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| 12:41.01 | number28 | Is there a common error with USB detection on VBOX with debian? I never had this problem in other distros. |
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| 12:43.55 | thms_ | number28, not that I know of. |
| 12:44.38 | number28 | thms_, Ahh okay. I'm in the Vbox channel as well. Just trying to cover all bases i suppose. |
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| 12:45.20 | thms_ | number28, I was gonna say that, belongs more to #vbox than here if USB works on your Debian system :) |
| 12:45.34 | number28 | thms_, lol, touche! |
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| 12:49.54 | watom | i got a new default debian on a machine. i can ssh into it fine but i can't use scp to it. i get connection refused |
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| 12:49.59 | watom | is scp disabled in debian by default? |
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| 12:52.40 | jelly | watom: no |
| 12:52.52 | watom | i don't really know |
| 12:52.56 | watom | maybe am i doing the command bad? |
| 12:53.03 | jelly | watom: scp uses the exact same port and protocol as ssh. |
| 12:53.13 | watom | i can ssh user@host just fine. but scp file user@host not |
| 12:53.23 | watom | there is a -p port |
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| 12:53.30 | watom | the first is fine the second is connection refused |
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| 12:53.37 | jelly | scp file user@host: |
| 12:53.42 | watom | yeah sorry there is the : |
| 12:53.48 | watom | or i get you can't copy local to local |
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| 12:54.17 | jelly | watom: can you pastebin the actual commands, both ssh and scp, and their full output, please |
| 12:54.18 | jelly | !paste |
| 12:54.18 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 12:54.22 | watom | sure |
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| 12:54.42 | jelly | which OS and ssh, scp version on the client side? |
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| 12:56.42 | d0uglas | Hi, want to move from an old slow hdd to an ssd, think the best move is to use dd to clone it. If I want to use a different filesystem than what's on the current drive, will dd interfere with that when cloning and only lay down the same fs as what's on the current hard disk? |
| 12:56.48 | watom | jelly http://paste.debian.net/plainh/2e7d2baf |
| 12:57.12 | watom | i'm on Windows and i use Putty to SSH and PSCP (aka the putty SCP) to SCP |
| 12:57.42 | watom | the target is localhost since is a Debian in a Virtual Machine. i've got a forward to the local port 6622 |
| 12:57.43 | jelly | watom: localhost is your windows system then, not debian |
| 12:58.04 | watom | jelly as i mentioned i can SSH into it fine with localhost:6622 by Putty |
| 12:58.13 | jelly | watom: read about the correct way to provide port to pscp. |
| 12:58.19 | towo^work | d0uglas, dd is disk dump, so it includes the source fs |
| 12:58.52 | towo^work | d0uglas, if you want to change the fs on the target, use rsync |
| 12:58.54 | d0uglas | shoot... well maybe a full reinstall would do me right. okay, thanks towo |
| 12:59.00 | watom | the command is fine... |
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| 12:59.04 | d0uglas | Or rsync! |
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| 12:59.26 | watom | pscp [options] source [source...] [user@]host:target |
| 12:59.31 | d0uglas | and after rsynching, getting grub on there, making it bootable... |
| 12:59.36 | watom | oh my gosh... is P not p |
| 12:59.38 | watom | really |
| 12:59.45 | jelly | watom: but you're doing pscp source [options] [user@]host:target |
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| 13:00.13 | watom | i'm sorry. is -P not -p. >:( |
| 13:00.25 | watom | i'm not use to case-sensitive in windows |
| 13:00.50 | babilen | d0uglas: You could even copy the disk with cp (e.g. cp /dev/sda /dev/sdb), but that would also include the filesystem -- dd isn't really needed here |
| 13:01.08 | babilen | (or wouldn't be if you had wanted to copy everything) |
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| 13:01.53 | jelly | watom: fwiw it's uppercase -P with openssh scp as well. |
| 13:01.57 | d0uglas | babilen: gotcha, thank you |
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| 13:20.44 | Dan39 | hi, im using debian wheezy on an embedded arm device. the image from manufacturer i currently have booting into only the initramfs which runs my software fine. |
| 13:21.17 | Dan39 | small problem im having with that though is on serial/telnet, it goes straight to a busybox shell, no login prompt |
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| 13:21.58 | Dan39 | anyone know if its easy to add a login prompt to that? i do have access to the mounted full debian root once booted |
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| 13:23.27 | Dan39 | i have a shell script that runs on start, i start ssh which has all the logins, i figure there should be something i can run in that start script to change the console to a login prompt |
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| 13:45.39 | mido | I'm using debian/kde, is there a program that can record how much time I spend on each application (currently focused window) |
| 13:46.04 | gpunk | nope |
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| 13:48.30 | mido | gpunk: what about https://www.timecamp.com ? |
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| 13:48.44 | mido | gpunk: the also list other applications in https://www.timecamp.com/blog/index.php/2016/08/linux-time-tracking/ |
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| 13:52.29 | mido | also found this, not sure what it's worth |
| 13:52.30 | mido | https://github.com/kimai/kimai/ |
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| 14:25.27 | christianpoveda | Hi People! Could you give me a hand with some firmware trouble? |
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| 14:27.59 | jelly | christianpoveda: sure, |
| 14:28.00 | jelly | !ask |
| 14:28.00 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 14:28.06 | christianpoveda | I just installed the firmware-atheros package and after rebooting I'm still getting some messages saying stuff like "firmware: failed to load ath10k/..." do you guys have any idea why? |
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| 14:28.49 | jelly | some of those drivers can use optional firmware that can be used but does not have to |
| 14:28.51 | towo` | christianpoveda, not, if you don't provide the exact message |
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| 14:29.34 | jelly | christianpoveda: pastebin the whole dmesg output, or as least ~20 lines of context before and after any ath related line |
| 14:29.37 | jelly | !paste |
| 14:29.38 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 14:30.00 | jelly | christianpoveda: also, does your wifi work or not? |
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| 14:30.38 | christianpoveda | this is it https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zaOktfot/ |
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| 14:32.11 | christianpoveda | with context here |
| 14:32.19 | christianpoveda | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tzDqJeTr/ |
| 14:33.01 | christianpoveda | and my wifi works but i don't know why i'm still getting this stuf |
| 14:33.03 | christianpoveda | stuff |
| 14:34.04 | jelly | christianpoveda: so the driver loaded some other, more generic firmware, and things work. You can ignore the pci-bus-address specific firmware load attempts |
| 14:34.24 | jelly | looks about normal for this driver |
| 14:34.29 | christianpoveda | ok thhen |
| 14:35.53 | tw | -2 is usually ENOENT, right? |
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| 14:35.58 | jelly | the pci-address fw loading is useful when you have multiple wifi cards run by the same driver, eg. in a router |
| 14:36.02 | tw | Or do they not do that in kernel-land? |
| 14:36.19 | jelly | it's still pretty much ENOFILE yeah |
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| 14:53.20 | nnyby | hey, what package in debian is the `man` utility part of? |
| 14:53.47 | apollo13 | dpkg -S `which man` |
| 14:53.47 | dpkg | There is no record of a `which man` package |
| 14:54.09 | apollo13 | ignore dpkg, that command will work in your shell ;) |
| 14:54.38 | apollo13 | though that assumes you have it installed, if not you can use apt-file search to find it |
| 14:54.49 | nnyby | thx |
| 14:54.59 | nnyby | i accidentally uninstalled it apparently |
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| 14:55.35 | gpunk | man-pages |
| 14:55.56 | apollo13 | man-db ;) |
| 14:56.00 | gpunk | also |
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| 14:56.28 | apollo13 | shipped twice? how does that work? dpkg-alternatives? |
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| 15:01.47 | jelly | judd: file bin/man |
| 15:01.51 | judd | Search for bin/man in stretch/amd64: man-db: usr/bin/man |
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| 15:12.16 | n4dir | apollo13: i think there are even more manpages in debian (or have benn). posix ones and the funny ones. |
| 15:12.41 | n4dir | the latter ones obviously being of little use only |
| 15:12.55 | apollo13 | n4dir: man pages yes, but the question was for the man utility itself as far as I understood |
| 15:12.58 | apollo13 | ie the program man |
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| 15:21.33 | n4dir | apollo13: yeah, it wasn't really useful info. I found it very amusing when i ran into the funny manpages. |
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| 15:31.01 | zOthix | is there a command to find in which library a specific function is defined at ( m using debian and m talking aboput c functions example inet_aton ) |
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| 15:42.05 | tw | readelf, usually. |
| 15:42.12 | tw | I usually do a combination of the two. |
| 15:42.23 | tw | I think there's a LD flag you can set to debug linking. |
| 15:42.32 | tw | Sorry, combination of readelf + ldd. |
| 15:42.39 | tw | *debug loading |
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| 16:34.02 | jelly | ,v nagstamon |
| 16:34.03 | judd | Package: nagstamon on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.9.9-1; jessie: 1.0.1-1; jessie-backports: 2.0.1-1~bpo8+1; buster: 2.0.1-5; sid: 2.0.1-5; stretch: 2.0.1-5 |
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| 16:34.10 | eck | zOthix: gdb will show you that |
| 16:34.35 | eck | which is very handy if the symbols is defined in multiple libraries |
| 16:34.43 | eck | because gdb will show you which one is actually being used |
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| 16:37.40 | Longviewer | Hiya. Debian rules, just installed it on our communial pc for folks here to use, looks really good |
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| 17:07.56 | saml | hello https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html it's 404 |
| 17:08.28 | saml | i want to figure out how to declare a new package that provides same file as existing package |
| 17:09.07 | saml | so that apt-get install mypkg will automatically remove existingpkg instead of erroring out due to conflict |
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| 17:15.37 | olltie | is debian package written in C mostly? |
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| 17:16.41 | Iridos | saml, that should be "Replaces:" together with "Conflicts". See https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dreq.en.html#control |
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| 17:18.53 | saml | thanks Iridos |
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| 17:19.47 | somiaj | olltie: debian packages can be written in any language, the package is a collection of an archive (.ar) and control files |
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| 17:21.03 | olltie | somiaj: hmmm....but isn't C most conveninent for making one? |
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| 17:21.17 | somiaj | olltie: but a lot of source is in C, but there are python, ruby, perl, and other packages. |
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| 17:21.52 | somiaj | olltie: depends on what you mean by most convient, I don't see how writing source in C makes anything more convient. |
| 17:22.16 | Iridos | The software inside the package is just from one open source project or other⦠Debian just packages those⦠|
| 17:22.32 | olltie | somiaj: got It. I thought making debian package is like dealing with kernel |
| 17:22.46 | olltie | somiaj: I'm new to debian XD |
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| 17:23.06 | somiaj | olltie: no a debian package is the files that are to be installed on the system and a collection of control files that list things like name, version, depends, etc |
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| 17:23.52 | somiaj | olltie: so some packages, like python packages, maybe easier becaue really you just have to put the files in the correct location in the archive with the control info. Software written in C, the code needs to be compiled into the binaries, that are then the files that are packaged in the package. |
| 17:24.25 | n4dir | someone writes a program (upstream). he decides in which language to write it. if a debian developer packages it, nothing changes regarding that. |
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| 17:27.39 | olltie | somiaj: thanks! Where could I find resource to help developing deb pack? |
| 17:27.58 | somiaj | !nmg |
| 17:27.58 | dpkg | The packaging tutorial (http://deb.li/QYyI) and the New Maintainer's Guide (http://deb.li/3DiDA) are good places to start learning about Debian packaging. You should also ask me about <devref> and <policy> to understand how packages should be maintained and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <best practices> <build without helper>. http://www.debian.org/devel/ |
| 17:28.31 | olltie | dpkg: they all return 502 http error code... |
| 17:28.31 | dpkg | olltie: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 17:28.42 | somiaj | oh the tiny lihks aren't working |
| 17:28.58 | somiaj | just google "debian new maintainer's guide' |
| 17:29.56 | olltie | dpkg: I just want little package to make easier api call in debian |
| 17:29.56 | dpkg | olltie: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
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| 17:31.58 | somiaj | olltie: dpkg is a bot that responts to factoids or keywords |
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| 17:32.28 | Iridos | they are working |
| 17:32.42 | n4dir | olltie: you can also install the maintainer guide. package name seems to be maint-guide |
| 17:32.44 | Iridos | I just looked them up to find a link for the question before |
| 17:32.58 | Iridos | the () around them are maybe a bit unfortunate, though |
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| 17:33.28 | n4dir | anyway, here is the full link https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ |
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| 17:35.01 | somiaj | ahh they do work, I didn't check, thanks for the clarification Iridos |
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| 18:15.21 | saml | I have a new package with Conflicts: libogg0 Provides: libogg0 Replaces: libogg0 but dpkg fails like this https://gist.github.com/saml/35408f51fd617034de30210f2f7b5467 |
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| 18:18.56 | im_bad_at_linux | Hey guys, i just |
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| 18:19.05 | im_bad_at_linux | I think i just fucked up |
| 18:19.36 | eck | that's not good |
| 18:19.39 | im_bad_at_linux | So i tried to move my home folder to a seperate partition |
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| 18:20.06 | jorb | whats the best way to go about dl'ing a different version of chromium on stable? |
| 18:20.29 | annadane | dpkg: tell saml about bat |
| 18:20.40 | im_bad_at_linux | Created a new partition, copied contents of home folder to the partition mounted the partition to home then added the partition to /etc/fstab |
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| 18:21.08 | im_bad_at_linux | And now i just rebooted, cant login with any DE but i do have access to tty |
| 18:21.18 | annadane | jorb, how do you mean "different version"? other than the one provided in the repository? chromium probably has a standalone client, and then just don't mix your profiles/config folders |
| 18:21.30 | eck | so log into the tty and fix it |
| 18:21.34 | eck | and it's a directory, not a folder |
| 18:21.57 | Iridos | that's a package he made himself⦠|
| 18:22.04 | n4dir | huh? a directory, not a folder? |
| 18:22.09 | eck | correct |
| 18:22.14 | im_bad_at_linux | Yes sorry i'm coming from windows since abt 1-2 months so i still keep mixing em up |
| 18:22.34 | n4dir | you might wanna tell me the difference between a directory and a folder? |
| 18:22.37 | eck | i would check to see if /home was mounted |
| 18:22.52 | im_bad_at_linux | It's mounted forgot to say that |
| 18:23.01 | eck | n4dir: "folder" is terminology introduced by windows, every man page on linux refers to them as directories, as do the system calls |
| 18:23.20 | im_bad_at_linux | I can acces everything from tty2 in the directory |
| 18:23.30 | Iridos | judd, versions chromium-browser |
| 18:23.31 | judd | Package: chromium-browser on amd64 -- wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1 |
| 18:23.39 | Iridos | harrump |
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| 18:23.50 | Iridos | judd, versions chromium |
| 18:23.51 | judd | Package: chromium on amd64 -- wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 57.0.2987.98-1~deb8u1; stretch: 59.0.3071.86-1; stretch-proposed-updates: 61.0.3163.100-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 61.0.3163.100-1~deb9u1; buster: 61.0.3163.100-2; sid: 61.0.3163.100-2 |
| 18:24.05 | eck | is your home directory writeable by your user |
| 18:24.12 | im_bad_at_linux | And if i run df -l it shows me that /dev/sda8 is mounted to /home (dev is the new partition) |
| 18:24.25 | im_bad_at_linux | Sec checking that |
| 18:24.33 | eck | i bet it's owned by root or something and your login manager is crashing because it can't access the home directory |
| 18:24.50 | im_bad_at_linux | How do i check that again? Forgot |
| 18:24.54 | eck | ld -ld ~ |
| 18:24.57 | eck | ls -ld ~ |
| 18:24.59 | im_bad_at_linux | Thx |
| 18:25.32 | eck | typically that directory would have mode 755 and be owned by your user/group |
| 18:25.51 | SuperTramp83 | I bet what eck bets, ownership issues |
| 18:26.34 | im_bad_at_linux | Just chmodded it let's see |
| 18:27.10 | im_bad_at_linux | Nope i dont think so |
| 18:27.30 | im_bad_at_linux | I did chmod +rwx /home/user |
| 18:27.44 | eck | and chown it if ncessary |
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| 18:28.15 | eck | you're more likely to need to chown it than chmod it |
| 18:28.27 | n4dir | and with -R |
| 18:28.42 | SuperTramp83 | yeah |
| 18:29.11 | im_bad_at_linux | Ok i just tried chown user /home/user |
| 18:29.24 | jelly | where's that output of "ls -ld ~user" |
| 18:29.47 | jorb | annadane: yeah, not sure i need that honestly, i'm not even sure when jessie became oldstable, fug |
| 18:30.00 | jorb | gues i'm not keeping up with the place! |
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| 18:30.47 | im_bad_at_linux | Output is 'drwxr-xr-x 34 user root 4096 Oct 6 19:08' |
| 18:30.54 | n4dir | what might help: which (full) command did you use to copy ? you use a display manager, which one, does it open at all, does it show any error messages? Does the file ~/xsession-errors (or similar) has any info? |
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| 18:31.17 | n4dir | you could also try to stop the display manager and use startx to get some info. |
| 18:32.11 | jelly | im_bad_at_linux: that group ownership is not right; however, you did not show the last word of that line |
| 18:32.21 | im_bad_at_linux | I did 'sudo cp -r /home /media/mnt' |
| 18:32.33 | im_bad_at_linux | And i did, it says exactly that |
| 18:32.43 | im_bad_at_linux | And a point in the end |
| 18:32.56 | jelly | im_bad_at_linux: should have told cp to preserve permissions with -p |
| 18:33.09 | im_bad_at_linux | Well crap |
| 18:33.13 | jelly | or -a which is a convenient shorthand |
| 18:33.23 | eck | good thing you regularly take backups of your home directory |
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| 18:33.27 | im_bad_at_linux | Ye i should've known |
| 18:33.28 | jelly | im_bad_at_linux: do you have the source still present? |
| 18:33.42 | im_bad_at_linux | I dont think so |
| 18:34.06 | jelly | you may have to guess at the ownerships then |
| 18:34.10 | im_bad_at_linux | Wait it should be |
| 18:34.14 | jelly | im_bad_at_linux: what does "id -a user" say? |
| 18:34.24 | im_bad_at_linux | I never deleted contenrs of the /home dir |
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| 18:35.19 | im_bad_at_linux | Uid, gid and groups are all 1000 |
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| 18:38.07 | im_bad_at_linux | It says exactly: uid=1000(user) gid=1000(user) groups=1000(user),24(cdrom),25(floppy),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),33(www-data),44,(video),46(plugdev),108(netdev),114(bluetooth),118(scanner) |
| 18:38.30 | im_bad_at_linux | And i just typed that on my phone hello artritis |
| 18:38.37 | n4dir | I think the way to go is to cp again, this time as jelly has pointed out (cp -a). |
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| 18:39.27 | n4dir | if it was me i would first try to change the group-ownership first, which is now "root", but doing cp again seems to make more sense. |
| 18:40.03 | im_bad_at_linux | Ok but where could i find the old home directory back? |
| 18:40.14 | eck | unmount the current one |
| 18:40.23 | eck | and you'll see the old one |
| 18:40.38 | eck | of course, in linux world we spell that umount |
| 18:40.49 | eck | because every letter is sacred |
| 18:40.56 | im_bad_at_linux | Ye i know :p |
| 18:41.19 | im_bad_at_linux | Target is busy |
| 18:41.47 | jelly | get out of said directory first, in fact, log off as that user and log on as root |
| 18:42.09 | jelly | can't umount if any process is using it as current working directory |
| 18:42.32 | jelly | cd / |
| 18:42.34 | n4dir | if you already edited fstab, then the partition which was /home in the past shouldn't be mountet anymore. |
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| 18:42.52 | im_bad_at_linux | Almost forgot root pwd lol why did i have to make it 2 alineas long |
| 18:42.54 | n4dir | worth a try anyway |
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| 18:43.08 | jelly | it sounds as if there was no /home filesystem previously |
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| 18:43.14 | im_bad_at_linux | Ok its unmounted |
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| 18:43.40 | im_bad_at_linux | There was just the /home on the same partition as root |
| 18:43.42 | eck | do you see your old home directory |
| 18:43.46 | n4dir | my fault, sorry |
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| 18:43.56 | jelly | mount the new home fs elsewhere, like back at /media/mnt again |
| 18:43.57 | im_bad_at_linux | Yup found it |
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| 18:44.07 | im_bad_at_linux | I guess i cp -a this time? |
| 18:44.12 | jelly | rsync -Pa /home/ /media/mnt/ |
| 18:44.27 | im_bad_at_linux | Tysm |
| 18:44.31 | jelly | won't touch files that match already |
| 18:44.38 | eck | once you get it working, you should consider removing the old copy to save space |
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| 18:44.59 | eck | make sure it works first though |
| 18:45.11 | jelly | cp -a is also fine but does not have scrolling output |
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| 18:46.47 | im_bad_at_linux | And as we all know we love looking at our screen spasming out xD |
| 18:47.06 | jelly | doh |
| 18:47.24 | jelly | what's the point of computers |
| 18:47.32 | im_bad_at_linux | Btw am i the only one who looks in amazement at the screen every time i do apt full-upgrade? |
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| 18:48.12 | jelly | the scary man behind you in the dark is equally enthralled |
| 18:48.15 | n4dir | would make a good screensaver ... |
| 18:48.42 | saml | annadane, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/a023b1fa/ I wrongly packaged libogg (and libvorbis) without Conflicts: Replaces: .. so it's conflicting with libogg0 that's already installed. At this point, I want to keep the name as libogg but properly provide control policy so that it'll replace libogg0 cleanly even if other packages like libsndfile1 depends on libogg0 |
| 18:48.45 | jelly | no use, he hides when you turn around |
| 18:48.48 | n4dir | im_bad_at_linux: you know the application matrix (which is only lulz). you might like it |
| 18:49.06 | im_bad_at_linux | Thank you for the help lads |
| 18:49.36 | n4dir | cmatrix, it seems |
| 18:49.42 | jelly | im_bad_at_linux: now, when it's finished, "mv /home /home-old" and mkdir /home |
| 18:49.46 | im_bad_at_linux | And never heard of it, i suppose it's just random numbers appearing on your screen? |
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| 18:50.03 | im_bad_at_linux | Kk thx for the tip |
| 18:50.07 | n4dir | yeah, what you find in the movie matrix. just fun, as far i can tell. |
| 18:50.31 | im_bad_at_linux | Lmao, i'm kinda fed up with matrices these days |
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| 18:50.53 | n4dir | scares the shit out of folks in the railway :-) |
| 18:51.03 | im_bad_at_linux | Thats the problem with having loads of maths in school |
| 18:51.18 | im_bad_at_linux | And holy crap thats the best idea ever |
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| 18:52.39 | im_bad_at_linux | Anyone else had this experience where whenever you are using the terminal people just assume you're hacking the governement |
| 18:52.46 | annadane | !chat |
| 18:52.46 | dpkg | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic, or #moocows on irc.oftc.net or ##chat on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:53.00 | im_bad_at_linux | Sorry |
| 18:53.15 | annadane | saml, so you're on ubuntu, not debian |
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| 18:53.53 | im_bad_at_linux | Yesss its done copying |
| 18:54.12 | annadane | !ubuntu |
| 18:54.12 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 18:54.22 | annadane | saml, best to ask them instead |
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| 18:55.46 | alex____ | in my virtual consoles i cant input acute accent on my greek vowels but no problem in X's pseudoterminals |
| 18:57.05 | saml | yeah ubuntu is cray |
| 18:57.17 | im_bad_at_linux | Tysm for the help jelly, eck and n4dir, it's finally working again now. Such a fun and frustrating learning experience |
| 18:57.19 | saml | i mean, i'm cray for building bad packages |
| 18:57.29 | cybrNaut | "aptitude update" ignores a Release.gpg file, then it later complains that the Release is not signed. wtf? http://sprunge.us/aZSL |
| 18:57.52 | cybrNaut | why would aptitude ignore a Release.gpg file in the first place? |
| 18:58.19 | cybrNaut | if i manually download the Release and Release.gpg, and manually verify, gpg says the sig is good |
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| 18:58.42 | cybrNaut | 2 different packages have this problem |
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| 19:00.28 | n4dir | alex____: not sure, just an idea, "dpkg-reconfigure console-data" (and there is a similar thing, close to console-data, but i forgot the exact name, seems console-setup ? ) |
| 19:01.36 | jelly | !keymap |
| 19:01.36 | dpkg | Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
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| 19:03.32 | cybrNaut | the pwsafe developer cannot figure it out either |
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| 19:03.47 | cybrNaut | according to him, debian should be verifying the package https://github.com/skx/pwsafe/issues/2 |
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| 19:07.05 | cybrNaut | lenny didn't have this problem |
| 19:07.12 | cybrNaut | i think it was introduced in jessie |
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| 19:08.02 | jelly | cybrNaut: doesn't Ign there just mean "I have this exact same file already" |
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| 19:08.23 | cybrNaut | ah, perhaps. That would make sense |
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| 19:09.10 | cybrNaut | but then it fails to verify, saying "Release is not signed." |
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| 19:09.29 | cybrNaut | when in fact it is signed. The Release.gpg is the signature |
| 19:09.50 | jelly | is that repo available for public? |
| 19:09.57 | cybrNaut | yes |
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| 19:10.02 | jelly | and what's the deb line if it is? |
| 19:10.10 | cybrNaut | there are 2 repos it's happening in |
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| 19:10.18 | cybrNaut | checking |
| 19:11.06 | cybrNaut | deb http://wertarbyte.de/apt/ ./ |
| 19:11.10 | cybrNaut | that's the gc2latex one |
| 19:11.23 | cybrNaut | deb http://packages.steve.org.uk/pwsafe/jessie/ ./ |
| 19:11.26 | cybrNaut | that's the pwsafe one |
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| 19:11.43 | cybrNaut | (note that for pwsafe, I'm installing the "jessie" version on stretch |
| 19:12.58 | cybrNaut | i ran this to get the key for gc2latex => apt-key adv --recv-key 0x5145B9CD752C0197 |
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| 19:13.10 | paradoxspiral | Is there a package for this? https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions |
| 19:13.38 | cybrNaut | and for pwsafe i ran => wget -O - http://packages.steve.org.uk/pwsafe/apt-key.pub | apt-key add - |
| 19:14.27 | cybrNaut | paradoxspiral: i think not.. apt-file comes up empty for me |
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| 19:17.11 | looo | hi .. am using deepin can ask a q here ? |
| 19:18.14 | annadane | !deepin |
| 19:18.14 | dpkg | deepin is a Chinese distribution <based on debian>. It is not supported on #debian. Try their forums at https://www.deepin.org/en/, or #deepin on irc.freenode.net |
| 19:18.17 | annadane | looo, ^ |
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| 19:19.01 | im_bad_at_linux | Do we litterally have a command for every distro? |
| 19:19.13 | looo | ok .. thanks |
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| 19:19.34 | annadane | nope |
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| 19:19.48 | annadane | there was someone in here before using a distro for which there was no command |
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| 19:20.51 | im_bad_at_linux | Wow |
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| 20:16.53 | altab | hello, I can not install proftpd-basic : https://pastebin.com/uDvxBLm5 |
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| 20:21.43 | jolt | altab: not sure, but is it because of sudo and you are standing in a dir that messes the tmp files up? Is the filesystem mounted read-only? can you become root and do it without sudo (sudo -i) |
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| 20:22.09 | JordiGH | Is anyone going to try to bump the docker package from stable for its more famous namespace clash? |
| 20:22.16 | altab | jolt I can write on the filesystem, it's the main hdd, same error when logged as root |
| 20:22.18 | JordiGH | Or has that already happened on unstable? |
| 20:22.37 | JordiGH | Nope, it's still there in unstable. |
| 20:22.38 | greycat | ,v docker.io |
| 20:22.39 | judd | Package: docker.io on amd64 -- jessie-backports: 1.6.2~dfsg1-1~bpo8+1; sid: 1.13.1~ds1-2 |
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| 20:22.42 | JordiGH | Never change, Debian. |
| 20:22.44 | jolt | altab: try apt clean and install it again (so it gets re-downloaded) |
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| 20:22.57 | JordiGH | greycat: I'm not looking for the famous namespace clash. In fact, I want it to stay out. :P |
| 20:23.20 | greycat | you seem to be pressing a bunch of keys but not saying anything useful |
| 20:23.57 | JordiGH | Questions seldom are useful for those answering them. |
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| 20:25.49 | mrproper | Is someone running Debian 9 in a VMware Fusion (or Workstation) setup with VMware Tools installed? Preferably youâre also using shared folders. Because I have open-vm-tools installed but HGFS isnât working. |
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| 20:26.54 | annadane | "isn't working" is quite vague. please explain in more detail? |
| 20:27.06 | altab | jolt same error after apt clean, no error when I install rolldice to test |
| 20:27.19 | mrproper | I do a mount -t vmhgfs ⦠and I get ERror: cannot mount filesystem: No such device |
| 20:27.37 | jolt | altab: can you create a file in /usr/bin as root? |
| 20:27.56 | altab | jolt nope |
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| 20:28.31 | jolt | altab: So is this your computer? Have you changed something, like with chattr +i on /usr/bin? |
| 20:28.46 | altab | it's my dedicated server, I changed nothing |
| 20:28.52 | jolt | altab: is /usr/bin on the same filesystem as where you can write other files? |
| 20:29.08 | altab | yes |
| 20:29.44 | jolt | altab: so you can't (as root) do touch /usr/bin/foobar ? |
| 20:30.29 | altab | jolt permission denied |
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| 20:30.54 | jolt | altab: have you enable acl? does dmesg complain about errors? |
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| 20:31.44 | altab | [ 25.928531] grsec: time set by /usr/sbin/ntpdate[ntpdate:437] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0, parent /usr/bin/flock[flock:431] uid/euid:0/0 gid/egid:0/0 |
| 20:31.50 | altab | jolt I didn't enable acl |
| 20:31.50 | tw | uid0 bypasses ACLs but not security contexts. Check what kind of mount it is, and if you're in a mount namespace. |
| 20:31.51 | jolt | aha! it's grsec |
| 20:32.11 | Delf | I'm having issues with mult-seat setup. Just upgraded to Stretch (from Jessie). Cannot seem to get gdm3 to launch login manager on the other screens :( |
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| 20:32.23 | jolt | If you have grsec enable thats out of my knowledge |
| 20:32.46 | altab | it's enabled by default, no? |
| 20:32.46 | jolt | tw: Yeah, sure sounded weird |
| 20:33.00 | tw | What, grsec? not on debian. |
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| 20:33.18 | jolt | Haven't heard grsec in a long time |
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| 20:33.40 | altab | I havn't installed grsec |
| 20:33.51 | jolt | altab: Well, someone has |
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| 20:34.03 | hazzy | What is the best way to calibrate a USB touchscreen in debian 9? |
| 20:34.03 | altab | my server was on Debian8 and I upgraded it a long time ago to Debian9 |
| 20:34.18 | altab | I'm the only user on this server jolt |
| 20:34.55 | jolt | altab: uname -a for me please |
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| 20:36.13 | hazzy | I have tried using `xinput-calibrator` but it does not do anything |
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| 20:36.30 | altab | jolt Linux ks3323032.altab.fr 3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 #5 SMP Wed Sep 9 17:24:34 CEST 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 20:36.55 | jolt | altab: Well, then you compiled it in yourself at some point :D |
| 20:37.04 | altab | jolt it's OVH |
| 20:37.17 | tw | jolt: more likely kimsufi did it for him. |
| 20:37.18 | jolt | ah, so it's a shared system? |
| 20:37.26 | tw | No, that's just how they provision. |
| 20:37.46 | tw | the autoinstaller is not actually debian, it's just like debian. |
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| 20:38.28 | jolt | altab: anyway, you have to find out how to disable grsec temporarily for that package to be installed. I leave that as an exercise for the reader |
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| 20:39.32 | altab | I BRB |
| 20:39.49 | Delf | No one ever uses multi-seat? |
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| 20:40.14 | hazzy | It seems that the calibrations files are no longer located in '/ect/c11/xorg.conf.d' |
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| 20:41.32 | hazzy | Any idea were I should put the output from xinput-calibrator?? |
| 20:41.40 | tw | Delf: Not familiar enough to be of much help, but my understanding was that you use the same login manager and it switches you to a free vt after you log in. So you're only running one login manager that runs users under other VTs. |
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| 20:42.01 | altab | hi |
| 20:42.15 | altab | jolt I never had this error before, isn't it weird? |
| 20:42.49 | jolt | altab: well, I haven't seen it either, so I'm as confused as you |
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| 20:45.43 | Delf | tw: vt as in virtual terminal? Don't know much about that. But I notice there's a difference in the output of loginctl when I do list-sessions. There's a TTY tab tht wasn't there in jessie |
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| 20:52.26 | SpikeHeron | altab, do you have any grsec options in your /etc/sysctl.conf? |
| 20:53.09 | altab | SpikeHeron nope |
| 20:53.36 | SpikeHeron | altab, do you have the kernel sources? |
| 20:53.45 | altab | I don't know sorry |
| 20:54.16 | SpikeHeron | altab, do you have a directory /usr/src/linux? |
| 20:54.19 | tw | Delf: mm, I'm wrong about multiseat, ignore me. It does need to instantiate in the other layout. |
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| 20:54.43 | altab | SpikeHeron there in nothing in /usr/src |
| 20:54.54 | altab | -in+is |
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| 20:56.19 | OS-26162 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.27 | altab | gj |
| 20:56.33 | digdilem | slow claps |
| 20:56.46 | tw | altab: what does `stat -c %d:%i /proc/{self,1}/root/.` show? |
| 20:56.56 | SpikeHeron | altab, well, the proper way to do grsec is to (1) enable it in the kernel, then (2) override in userland in /etc/sysctl.conf. Since you have neither the sources or sysctl.conf, its going to be difficult to change the default settings. |
| 20:57.12 | altab | tw 2049:2 |
| 20:57.12 | altab | 2049:2 |
| 20:58.27 | Delf | so⦠somebody broke my multi-seat on stretch⦠|
| 20:58.29 | altab | I started the server in rescue mode and I mounted the filesystem to change the root password few weeks ago, can it comes from this? |
| 20:58.53 | OS-26162 | exit |
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| 20:59.19 | SpikeHeron | altab, do you have the command 'paxctl'? |
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| 20:59.35 | altab | SpikeHeron nope |
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| 21:04.22 | Delf | tw: Thank you for trying :) |
| 21:04.34 | Maid-Chan | is there some option I can do to make runnable objects like java jars and shell scripts run when double clicked or at least add a context menu option for it? (running xfce4 and compiz-reloaded) |
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| 21:05.18 | altab | I think I'll install a new system on my server |
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| 21:07.20 | tw | Maid-Chan: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/default_applications#xdg-utils |
| 21:08.09 | SpikeHeron | altab, before you do that, you could install the package 'paxctl', then go to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Hardened/PaX_Quickstart and read the subsection entitled 'paxctl' |
| 21:08.20 | Maid-Chan | does that work even though ti's for arch not deb? |
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| 21:09.54 | altab | SpikeHeron ok thanks I installed it |
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| 21:10.42 | saml | where is documentation on how to provide versioned Provides: field in package control? |
| 21:10.44 | Maid-Chan | hrm i may just be stupid but that seems all about setting a default application to start and nothing about using the script as it's own application...i suppose with the jars it would be as easy as figuring out how to load jars and having the thing do that automatically. |
| 21:11.20 | SpikeHeron | altab, what does, as root, 'paxctl -h' say? |
| 21:11.59 | altab | SpikeHeron https://pastebin.com/jRPywx81 |
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| 21:14.33 | SpikeHeron | altab, excellent. Look at the options, given what you want to do, on the page I linked. I would focus initially on MPROTECT, PAGEEXEC, and RANDEXEC, in that order. |
| 21:16.35 | altab | SpikeHeron this will allow me to install proftpd package? |
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| 21:19.11 | debianuser2017_ | it seems odd that a stock debian install on the En-us locale gives you 24 hour time as the default |
| 21:19.20 | SpikeHeron | altab, can't say, given we're not sure exactly what your kernel settings are. Maybe we can tell from your .config, if you want to post up your /boot/config-xxx |
| 21:19.22 | hazzy | What is the best way to calibrate a POS touchscreen in Debian9? I have tried `xinput-calibrator` but it does not do anything. |
| 21:19.28 | debianuser2017_ | i'd consider that a bug |
| 21:20.03 | altab | SpikeHeron I have no config file in /boot |
| 21:20.42 | altab | https://pastebin.com/kXP5FPpN |
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| 21:23.21 | SpikeHeron | altab, do you have a /proc/config.gz? |
| 21:23.42 | altab | SpikeHeron yes! |
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| 21:25.00 | altab | is there a way to paste like we can fpaste on fedora? |
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| 21:26.59 | SpikeHeron | altab, i don't know - i'm not here much. |
| 21:28.28 | SpikeHeron | altab, you could just paste the stuff that contains PAX and GRKERNSEC |
| 21:30.00 | altab | I sent you the file in private, I don't know if there is sensitive data in |
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| 21:33.01 | SpikeHeron | altab, ok - i'll look through that. also, if you could paste your /etc/os-release, that'd be great. I'm concerned because your /boor dir contains a bzImage, which stock Debian does not use, afaik |
| 21:33.47 | altab | SpikeHeron https://paste.debian.net/989396/ |
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| 21:35.11 | debianuser2017_ | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=877900 has been submitted |
| 21:35.18 | debianuser2017_ | :) |
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| 21:36.19 | beati | hey guys, is there a way to specify you wanted a 32bit install using the win32-loader? I notice there is an argument line I can add stuff |
| 21:38.56 | SpikeHeron | altab, ok, i would try what i was suggesting before and use paxctl to selectively disable MPROTECT, PAGEEXEC, and RANDEXEC, in that order. Do one at a time, and reboot after each change. If one does not work, re-enable it and disable the next, etc. |
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| 21:39.47 | altab | ok, I disable on which folder? |
| 21:40.23 | kion42 | quit |
| 21:41.00 | altab | I'm sorry but I don't really understand how to use paxcl |
| 21:44.03 | SpikeHeron | altab, i don't have the man page for paxctl handy, but the command will be something like "paxctl -m <file>" where -m disables MPROTECT. |
| 21:44.38 | altab | yes, my problem is "which file specify"? |
| 21:46.01 | altab | because the error when I try to install the proftpd package is "unable to create '/usr/bin/ftpcount.dpkg-new' (while processing './usr/bin/ftpcount'): Permission denied" and the files aren't even created |
| 21:46.18 | saml | how can I create mylibogg that should replace libogg0 cleanly? I tried Conflicts Provides Replaces. But, I can only install mylibogg with --auto-deconfigure because libsndfile1 depends on libogg0 |
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| 21:47.55 | SpikeHeron | altab, check your /var/log/messages or journalctl for the exact error when trying to install the file. Unless it is disabled, grsec has extremely verbose logging. |
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| 21:51.08 | altab | SpikeHeron no logs in both of these files |
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| 21:51.50 | altab | the only error log I have is this one : https://paste.debian.net/989401/ |
| 21:52.32 | beati | is there a way to specify the architecture you want to install using boot parameters for the debian installer? |
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| 21:54.38 | SpikeHeron | altab, maybe someone smarter than me can check that error, because "broken pipe" does not look like a grsec error to me, but i could be wrong. |
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| 21:56.57 | altab | SpikeHeron it's a nightmare for me, I think I'll just install a new system (without OVH craps) |
| 21:56.58 | Delf | I'm getting systemd-logind: failed to get session: PID 2618 does not belong to any known session |
| 21:57.16 | altab | thanks a lot for your time and your help SpikeHeron tw and jolt |
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| 21:58.08 | SpikeHeron | altab, sorry we couldn't get things worked out! |
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| 21:58.32 | altab | np! |
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| 22:21.13 | tw | Visual studio code the product wouldn't. vscode the project should. Similar to how chrome and chromium are related. |
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| 22:22.17 | Lyberta | ah, another kind of this evil |
| 22:23.00 | JordiGH | Lyberta: If this is the entirety of the licenses that cover everything you need in order to build VS code, yes: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/blob/master/OSSREADME.json |
| 22:23.28 | JordiGH | Who knows what they do to their binaries and why the binaries aren't under a free license. |
| 22:23.59 | Lyberta | exactly, thanks, I will stay away from it |
| 22:24.16 | JordiGH | I don't see why you should. |
| 22:24.20 | JordiGH | The source seems ok. |
| 22:25.02 | Lyberta | the proprietary EULA has a passage about statistics being collected |
| 22:25.20 | JordiGH | Oh, so they put crap into their binary. Just build your own binary. |
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| 22:25.40 | Lyberta | I'd rather use different editor?IDE |
| 22:25.46 | JordiGH | Sure, that works too. |
| 22:25.59 | tw | Probably standard microsoft telemetry and crash reporting stuff that they don't want you to RE. |
| 22:26.25 | tw | It's unlikely to be significantly intrusive. |
| 22:26.45 | Lyberta | yes, but still |
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| 22:30.17 | tw | The tradeoff being that a branded build (supposedly) has QC behind it which may not be true for an arbitrary tag or snapshot you built yourself. |
| 22:31.44 | beati | a user with limited privileges on windows (in the user group) shouldnt be able to read a foreign filesystem (ext2,ext3 etc) on another partition or drive, right? |
| 22:31.50 | Lyberta | well, I would probably tried it if Microsoft played it cool without any EULAs and it was available in official Debian repository.... and now that I've read, not written in JavaScript... ugh |
| 22:33.09 | tw | The 3 "IDEs" I use are Eclipse, QTCreator, and cscope+vim. |
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| 22:33.26 | tw | If you're looking for recommendations. |
| 22:33.47 | eck | just use emacs, done |
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| 22:34.02 | Lyberta | well I'm looking for an IDE for Rust |
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| 22:34.12 | eck | you need at least 8 megabytes of ram |
| 22:34.23 | hicks_ | vscode is ok, just ensure you edit config to disable all the analytics |
| 22:34.36 | hicks_ | qtcreator is nice too for C++/qt dev |
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| 22:34.59 | Lyberta | I use CodeLite and QtCreator for C++ and Pluma for non-serious stuff |
| 22:35.00 | hicks_ | and I quite like how kdevelop works along with cmake. |
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| 22:36.20 | hicks_ | as for vscode eula, does that matter if you build it yourself? afaik it's mit license? |
| 22:36.44 | Lyberta | argh, Eclipse requires Java :\ |
| 22:36.46 | hicks_ | unless I'm mixing up some of the modules it's based on, let me double check |
| 22:37.10 | hicks_ | yeah mit |
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| 22:37.17 | hicks_ | + assorted other open source parts |
| 22:37.28 | hicks_ | and I agree on the JS part :) |
| 22:37.52 | Lyberta | I don't allow Java or Mono on my PC and I hope to get rid of JS |
| 22:38.10 | hicks_ | Has anyone considered getting vscode into debian? Anything stopping it happening other than someone actually doing it? |
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| 22:39.30 | Lyberta | oh, Pluma has Rust syntax highlighting out of the box |
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| 22:46.17 | tw | does cargo and rustup enforce cryptographic release signatures yet? |
| 22:46.34 | tw | I suppose that's off-topic for this channel. |
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| 22:49.46 | drith | want to ask with amd ryzen 17000 what to do to show me temperatures in lm-sensors, or what is the official status? |
| 22:50.00 | drith | latest debian stable |
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| 22:53.36 | random_numbers | So, is there a reference or administration manual for stretch, or some "patch" manual that deals with differences introduced in Stretch such as the deterministic hardware names? |
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| 22:55.52 | tw | drith: you'd need a custom kernel module for (probably) it87. It's too new to have shipped with deb9. |
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| 22:56.31 | drith | yeah i just hopped for some work around |
| 22:56.35 | drith | what about testing? |
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| 22:57.38 | tw | random_numbers: https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ |
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| 22:58.43 | random_numbers | tw: Ah, so it covers it too? I see. Thanks. |
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| 23:02.51 | tw | drith: might try one of the linux 4.1x kernels from backports, that might have it baked in. |
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| 23:09.41 | random_numbers | Is there a nicer way to download the debian reference or should I just wget it? |
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| 23:12.44 | somiaj | I would imangine the source is available somewhere, I'm just not seeing it mentioned in the doc which I find strange. |
| 23:12.47 | somiaj | random_numbers: ^^ |
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| 23:14.13 | somiaj | ,v debian-reference-en |
| 23:14.15 | judd | Package: debian-reference-en on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.50; jessie: 2.58; stretch: 2.68; buster: 2.69; sid: 2.69 |
| 23:14.26 | somiaj | there is the package, you can download the source package if you don't just want the docs. |
| 23:14.43 | random_numbers | I see. |
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| 23:15.15 | somiaj | there are also other translations if you are using one other than english, all availble as packages in debian |
| 23:16.04 | random_numbers | Seems like packages or wget it is. Thanks. |
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| 23:16.43 | random_numbers | Hm. The alioth source repo's README doesn't say the requirements for building... |
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| 23:25.46 | adrenaline | afternoon guys and gals. Just a quick question I hope. I am installing Debian on my laptop. It is 9 and I have booted it to live, and now I want to install can I install booted into live and if so does anybody knwo where the launcher is? google keeps trying to tell me how to make a boot cd but wont tell me how to launch it. hehe. Thanks |
| 23:26.30 | somiaj | adrenaline: the offical debian installers (not live images) are the prefered method to install debian |
| 23:26.45 | somiaj | if using a live disc, don't boot into the live enviroment, but boot directly into the installer (it is an option at boot time) and then install from there. |
| 23:27.03 | somiaj | live discs only support legacy boot, if you want efi boot, you'll have to use an offical installer. |
| 23:27.05 | adrenaline | Ya I was hoping that I didn't have to reboot but I did see that. |
| 23:27.21 | adrenaline | hmmm ok |
| 23:27.39 | somiaj | installing from inside the live enviorment has always been buggy, it seems they finally just took away that option because one really shoudln't be using it. |
| 23:27.57 | somiaj | boot directly into the installer, and the offical installer images are still better, but you should be okay with the live image. |
| 23:28.14 | adrenaline | Ok that answers that I will dl the netinstall and go that route then. I really appreciate your information and time |
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| 23:30.28 | adrenaline | dl netinstall thanks again somiaj |
| 23:30.28 | somiaj | adrenaline: if you are using a wifi card with non-free firmware, there is an unoffical installer that contains the firmware if needed. |
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| 23:30.53 | somiaj | with that a wired connection is most likely needed. Also note a full base system is included on that install image, and you can install it without the internet. |
| 23:30.55 | adrenaline | oh that might be me since the live didn't see the wifi card |
| 23:31.04 | somiaj | !firmware images |
| 23:31.04 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> and DVD installer images containing non-free Debian firmware packages are available for installing Debian 9 "Stretch". See http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ and ask me about <install guide>. |
| 23:31.08 | somiaj | that is the unoffical image. |
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