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| 00:39.02 | ____coin[rider] | thought I'd drop in here and see if anyone is interested in supporting the VOISE market, it's a decentralized market that will offer musicians the change to promote and sell 100% of there work |
| 00:39.07 | ____coin[rider] | https://trello.com/b/VzHr9Nov/voise-transparent-roadmap |
| 00:39.12 | ____coin[rider] | going to be a big market |
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| 00:39.25 | ____coin[rider] | https://www.livecoin.net/?from=Livecoin-aQ5jvzQ5 |
| 00:39.37 | ____coin[rider] | best exchange to get them at, go BTC to VOISE |
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| 00:39.43 | ____coin[rider] | best price right now at the moment |
| 00:39.58 | ____coin[rider] | real good price to get in and help the development |
| 00:40.19 | ____coin[rider] | market volume don't lie, there is support for this market |
| 00:40.37 | ____coin[rider] | people agree it can be a great thing |
| 00:41.04 | ____coin[rider] | VOISE |
| 00:41.11 | ____coin[rider] | going to be big by Christmas |
| 00:41.17 | ____coin[rider] | bigger still in a year from now |
| 00:42.03 | ____coin[rider] | don't forget, get BTC first then go BTC to VOISE, and yes, check the other 2 exchanges out for your self, better price at livecoin.net |
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| 00:42.49 | annadane | um |
| 00:42.56 | ____coin[rider] | and help save cpp-ethereum if your a super genius programmer |
| 00:43.04 | annadane | i'll just go ahead and state the obvious that this channel is not for advertising |
| 00:43.17 | ____coin[rider] | I know, couldn't help myself |
| 00:43.23 | annadane | yes, you could |
| 00:43.39 | ____coin[rider] | it's a good thing |
| 00:43.51 | annadane | sure, but please advertise it elsewhere than a support channel for computers |
| 00:44.03 | ____coin[rider] | ok,got it |
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| 00:48.53 | |N| | hello |
| 00:48.59 | Delf | This seems to be related to gdm3 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=858222 |
| 00:49.00 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/858222 in systemd (open): «systemd: multi-seat not working : no gdm appear in second seat when attaching graphic card»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-03-19; last modified: 2017-07-25. |
| 00:49.05 | |N| | wheres the config file for neovim stored? |
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| 01:04.19 | |N| | can anyone give an answer to my question? |
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| 01:09.06 | toruvinn | |N|, https://github.com/neovim/neovim/wiki/FAQ or maybe just see the FAQ? |
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| 01:09.18 | |N| | ok |
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| 01:40.08 | VentGrey | Hello, I wanted to install Gnome 3 in Debian 9 but there seems to be a problem, if I use gdm the boot process hangs up and I have to switch to lightdm, however when I do I get stuck into a login loop, I already tried the classic google solutions such as changing .Xauthority permissions & removing it but no sucess, does anyone have an idea why is it not working? |
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| 01:44.31 | tw | have you checked the xsession log? |
| 01:46.03 | VentGrey | Yes, it's empty |
| 01:46.25 | tw | which one did you check? |
| 01:46.38 | VentGrey | The one in my home |
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| 01:48.50 | tw | have you looked in /var/log/lightdm? |
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| 01:54.57 | VentGrey | Just an error in accounts service |
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| 02:02.14 | VentGrey | Re-enabled the accounts service but now I have a dependency problem |
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| 02:46.24 | b0xii | how do you add trackpad options when there is no xorg.conf? |
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| 03:44.12 | Caffeine | i drank five mountain dew |
| 03:44.18 | Caffeine | and a coffee |
| 03:45.41 | Caffeine | !ops |
| 03:45.41 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 03:45.49 | Caffeine | !ops . |
| 03:45.50 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: caffeine complains about a problem (see above) |
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| 03:46.04 | Caffeine | i had too much caffeine |
| 03:46.08 | Caffeine | lol |
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| 04:06.43 | EnchanterTim | b0xii: you can generate a default xorg.conf and use that to customize |
| 04:07.21 | EnchanterTim | b0xii: https://wiki.debian.org/Xorg#Configure_X |
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| 04:08.25 | somiaj | EnchanterTim, b0xii: with modern xorg you shoudln't need a default config to configure. Start with a blank one, if you need to change what is auto detected, only add configuration for that piece. |
| 04:08.53 | EnchanterTim | somiaj: indeed. Only need to add the bits you need in there, rest is auto configured. |
| 04:08.58 | somiaj | b0xii: so just create an xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/trackpad.conf and only add in the options you need |
| 04:09.49 | EnchanterTim | That's very handy now |
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| 04:47.29 | _raven_ | hi |
| 04:47.57 | _raven_ | anyone using a FANTEC QB-X8US3-6G? what about the performance between esata/usb3? |
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| 06:20.59 | happo | hi |
| 06:21.30 | happo | Can anybody help out a Linux noob mount an USB stick? I can not seem to get it done. Tried everything. |
| 06:23.13 | happo | I have a USB stick and I know there is something on it but I believe I chose the wrong file system when formatting it. I have another USB stick that mounts no problem and shows up in dolphin. This one however I can not mount. |
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| 06:23.38 | happo | When I use sudo fdisk -l I get Disklabel type: dos |
| 06:24.52 | happo | I tried sudo mount -t vfat /dev/xvdi /user/_tmpmount; I tried sudo mount -t fat32 /dev/xvdi /user/_tmpmount I tried sudo mount -t fat16 /dev/xvdi /user/_tmpmount , but none work. Any help? |
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| 06:38.41 | debianuser2017_ | can you check it out in the Disks app |
| 06:38.51 | debianuser2017_ | and see what it says |
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| 06:46.23 | happo | debianuser2017_, I run Debian under Qubes OS: How can I start the disc app from the shell? It is not in my app links. |
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| 06:48.00 | debianuser2017_ | sorry, sadly I am not familiar with Qubes OS :( |
| 06:49.39 | debianuser2017_ | can you show the full output of the fdisk -l command |
| 06:49.47 | debianuser2017_ | the disklabel is not the filesystem |
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| 07:05.54 | debianuser2017_ | i have to go :( |
| 07:06.07 | debianuser2017_ | good luck, hope you get that drive mounted |
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| 07:13.56 | happo | Thx |
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| 07:18.14 | im_bad_at_linux | Can you find the disk in the output of fdisk -l |
| 07:19.42 | mr__tea | hi |
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| 07:22.06 | happo | im_bad_at_linux, https://pastebin.com/nquZhNsu |
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| 07:26.28 | im_bad_at_linux | And what is the output if you try to mount? |
| 07:27.13 | im_bad_at_linux | And do you know what filesystem you formatted it in? |
| 07:29.47 | happo | im_bad_at_linux, not I forgot what filesystem but it is not a linux one; Some windows one |
| 07:31.30 | im_bad_at_linux | If linux does not support it at all you're probably gonna have to either go to a windows pc, extract the data, reformat in another filesystem , copy the data back to the drive and then put it back in your linux pc |
| 07:32.05 | happo | It does not show up in Windows either |
| 07:32.13 | happo | Already tried that |
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| 07:32.39 | im_bad_at_linux | Have you tried manually mounting it in diskpart on windows? |
| 07:33.05 | im_bad_at_linux | (type "diskpart" in cmd) |
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| 07:34.28 | mosi | I'm having trouble with getting xdg-mime and xdg-open to do what I want. I run `xdg-mime default mupdf.desktop application/pdf`, then run `xdg-mime query default application/pdf` and get back "evince.desktop". Then I try `xdg-open some.pdf` and it opens in xpdf. Can anyone suggest some debugging i could try? |
| 07:35.20 | happo | im_bad_at_linux, no I havn't. I will try on Monday at work. I don't have Windows machines at home. |
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| 07:36.05 | Mathisen | happo, what is your issue missed past chat, you cant mount a win partition or what ? |
| 07:36.22 | im_bad_at_linux | Ok, i'm not really sure how exactly you do manual mounts on windows, but i'm sure you can find that on google |
| 07:36.49 | happo | Mathisen, I can not mount a USB stick; It is not encrypted but I forgot what file system it is. Lavel is dos |
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| 07:38.02 | mosi | happo: you tried findmnt? |
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| 07:38.18 | happo | https://pastebin.com/j5wdWFU0 |
| 07:38.52 | happo | mosi, no. debian tool? |
| 07:38.55 | Mathisen | happo, lsblk -f |
| 07:38.55 | DomDown | I upgraded my dom0 from Debian Jessie to Stretch and one of my domUs with 7 vifs isn't starting up. Reducing it to 4 vifs allows it to start. |
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| 07:39.06 | Mathisen | happo, can you show output for that |
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| 07:39.36 | garuda | argh... xfce4-terminal crashes whenever i right click it >_< |
| 07:39.43 | DomDown | Anyone know if max vif has been reduced from 8 or is there a work around to allow more than 4 interfaces per domU |
| 07:39.53 | garuda | happo: i list that, sorry |
| 07:40.26 | happo | Mathisen, https://pastebin.com/gANZMfex |
| 07:40.28 | garuda | *lost that |
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| 07:41.22 | Mathisen | happo, and your usb is plugged in now ? |
| 07:41.39 | Mathisen | xvdi ? |
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| 07:42.21 | happo | yes, plugged in xvdi |
| 07:42.57 | Mathisen | happo, something seems wrong with it then, just run testdisk on it and see |
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| 07:43.33 | garuda | happo: blkid -p /dev/xvdi ? |
| 07:44.17 | happo | user@Media:~$ sudo blkid -p /dev/xvdi |
| 07:44.17 | happo | /dev/xvdi: PTUUID="c0029d4f" PTTYPE="dos" |
| 07:44.40 | mosi | happo: are you sure there are partitions on that device? |
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| 07:44.58 | mosi | are you expecting there to be? |
| 07:45.12 | happo | mosi, the usb stick was in the drawer for a while; i think so, yes |
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| 07:46.18 | mosi | looks to me like there's an empty partition map on it. maybe you wrote a raw filesystem to the disk and there's a stale partition map lying around that's a red herring? |
| 07:46.35 | mosi | either that or as Mathisen said it's busted, i think |
| 07:46.45 | happo | hmm |
| 07:46.55 | Mathisen | tesdisk will still find stuff if you are lucky |
| 07:46.59 | Mathisen | testdisk* |
| 07:47.10 | happo | OK, I have to install it |
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| 07:47.56 | Mathisen | maybe install nfts-3g also if you working with ntfs partitions |
| 07:48.05 | happo | aha, yes |
| 07:48.16 | happo | I think it was ntfs |
| 07:48.19 | happo | damn, you are right |
| 07:48.23 | happo | let me try |
| 07:48.41 | happo | how can i check if the ntfs driver is already installed? |
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| 07:52.26 | happo | The device '/dev/xvdi' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS. |
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| 07:55.10 | happo | I just tried testdisk and it says FAT32 |
| 07:55.25 | happo | but non bootable |
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| 07:55.44 | happo | isk /dev/xvdi - 32 GB / 29 GiB - CHS 3892 255 63 |
| 07:55.44 | happo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:55.44 | happo | >* FAT32 LBA 0 32 33 3892 202 22 62535680 |
| 07:56.48 | jim | happo, here's something you might find handy... you can pastebin the output of an arbitrary command by running "anArbitraryCommand | nc termbin.com 9999", and to include error messages, "anArbitraryCommand 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999" |
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| 07:57.08 | happo | jim, thx!!! |
| 07:57.12 | happo | I will try it |
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| 07:58.28 | enveezee | the output you just pasted indicates that partition is FAT32 not NTFS |
| 07:58.54 | happo | yes, after all |
| 07:59.03 | enveezee | mount -t vfat |
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| 07:59.21 | happo | enveezee, does not work |
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| 07:59.30 | jim | you can pastebin the results of cat somefile, ls, apt-get update, etc etc... if any of those produces error messages which you want to be on the pastebin, you can use the second form (example: dpkg -i somefile.deb 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999) |
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| 08:01.53 | enveezee | also notes there is most likely hardware virtualization going on in this issue |
| 08:02.29 | Scrutinizer | Anyone using kdenlive on Debian Testing? It's completely unuseable... |
| 08:02.33 | happo | i will install gparted |
| 08:03.02 | enveezee | Scrutinizer: is that their movie maker program? |
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| 08:03.29 | Scrutinizer | enveezee: It's a video editor. |
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| 08:03.53 | happo | gparted says Partition: unallocated file system: unallocated. I don?t get it. |
| 08:04.02 | happo | it is not what testdisk says |
| 08:04.03 | enveezee | Scrutinizer: yeah I tried it a long time ago, wasn't impressed. As for using testing, you need to check the BTS and file a bug if need be |
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| 08:04.30 | bazhang | !testing |
| 08:04.30 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <buster>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting . Support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You need a sound knowledge of Debian and be prepared for a very bumpy ride. Don't use it on things that are critical! |
| 08:04.44 | im_bad_at_linux | Scrutinizer: i installed it yesterday and i'm on testing. What's ur problem with it? (Haven't really tested it yet) |
| 08:04.57 | bazhang | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:05.06 | enveezee | happo: I haven't followed your whole issue but as was said before you either got a dying disk or you had modified the disk and have a stale partition map |
| 08:05.18 | bazhang | thats where testing support is^' |
| 08:05.38 | Scrutinizer | im_bad_at_linux: It crashes all the time. Just right-clicking on the timeline crashes it. |
| 08:05.39 | enveezee | happo: there is a program called gpart that can guess and reconstruct a partition table based on what data it sees on the drive. I've used it with success before |
| 08:06.08 | im_bad_at_linux | Didnt happen to me, maybe u dont have the latest version? Did you update recently? |
| 08:06.35 | Scrutinizer | im_bad_at_linux: Sure. I'm updated to the latest one in Testing. |
| 08:07.20 | im_bad_at_linux | Have you tried using previous versions? |
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| 08:07.29 | enveezee | Scrutinizer: try making a new user and run it as that user, to rule out something screwed up n your configs also |
| 08:07.44 | happo | enveezee, not gparted? |
| 08:07.48 | happo | gpart? |
| 08:08.05 | enveezee | happo: no gparted is a graphical partition editor, gpart is a command line tool to reconstruct partition tables |
| 08:08.15 | happo | enveezee, OK, thx |
| 08:08.27 | happo | I will try it later. I have to go. Thx for all the help everyone. |
| 08:08.31 | happo | cu |
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| 08:13.23 | Scrutinizer | ok GPU processing was enabled. |
| 08:13.39 | Scrutinizer | I've disabled it & now kdenlive doesn't crash on right-click. :) |
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| 08:49.04 | sverzel | anyone have any idea why nfsdcltrack would fail to "unit database"? |
| 08:49.13 | sverzel | *init database |
| 08:50.00 | sverzel | that's the entire error message it gets and there's nothing in the logs of WHY that I can find |
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| 09:51.16 | kl__ | Hello |
| 09:51.46 | kl__ | I'm using Debian and I installed some packages, and now my system fonts are messed up, and they look ugly and bold making reading them very difficult |
| 09:51.51 | kl__ | I'm using Xfce |
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| 09:52.16 | kl__ | I wanted to enable spell check in ZIM and so I installed some dependencies for it, when I ran |
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| 09:53.48 | kl__ | Commandline: apt-get install libatk1.0-0 libc6 libcairo2 libfontconfig1 libfreet |
| 09:53.51 | kl__ | ype6 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libglib2.0-0 libgtk2.0-0 libgtkspell0 libpango1.0-0 libp |
| 09:53.51 | kl__ | angocairo-1.0-0 libpangoft2-1.0-0 python-gtk2 python |
| 09:53.51 | kl__ | Requested-By: kl (1000) |
| 09:53.51 | kl__ | Install: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-bin:amd64 (2.36.10-2, automatic) |
| 09:53.51 | kl__ | Upgrade: libpangoft2-1.0-0:amd64 (1.40.6-1, 1.40.12-1), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:amd64 (2.36.5-2, 2.36.10-2), libc6-dbg:amd64 (2.24-14, 2.24-17), libc6-dev:amd64 (2.24-14, 2.24-17), libpango1.0-0:amd64 (1.40.6-1, 1.40.12-1), libc6:amd64 (2.24-14, 2.24-17), libpangoxft-1.0-0:amd64 (1.40.6-1, 1.40.12-1), libglib2.0-dev-bin:amd64 (2.53.4-3, 2.54.0-1), libatk1.0-0:amd64 (2.22.0-1, 2.26.0-2), libpangocairo-1.0-0:amd64 (1.40.6-1, 1.40.12-1), libglib2.0-bin:amd64 (2.53.4-3, |
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| 09:54.15 | dontknow | kl__, i encountered font breaking many times. and i couldn't fix it |
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| 09:56.07 | kl__ | can someone help me? |
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| 09:58.24 | dontknow | kl__, do you have font related stuff in /.cache ? |
| 09:58.30 | dontknow | if so, remove it |
| 09:58.47 | dontknow | and set the font rendering stuff again |
| 09:59.03 | kl__ | I've got fontconfig folder |
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| 09:59.15 | dontknow | doin't forget log out and log in |
| 09:59.18 | kl__ | I don't know what you mean for font related stuff |
| 09:59.45 | kl__ | but the problem is I cannot remove those packages who caused the problem, too since they depends on the upgraded packages |
| 10:00.01 | kl__ | and the upgraded packages, I can't rollback them, since apt-get doesn't find the previous version! |
| 10:00.15 | kl__ | (maybe because I ran apt-get update before doing the apt-get install command) |
| 10:00.43 | dontknow | kl__, remove fontconfig folder and lok out and log in |
| 10:01.37 | kl__ | I think my system is screwed up, but what's ridicolous, it's just because I ran apt-get install |
| 10:01.41 | kl__ | dontknow I'll try |
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| 10:03.00 | dontknow | kl__, font breaking become random. like after installing package or resetting computer |
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| 10:03.44 | kl__ | nothing changed |
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| 10:04.07 | kl__ | How is possible things like that happens just because I installed some packages? |
| 10:04.43 | kl__ | I think GNU/Linux is one of the OS that put the user in control of its system, but it's still doing stupid things like many commercial OS |
| 10:04.45 | kl__ | like this one |
| 10:05.08 | kl__ | I think is pango stuff or freetype or stuff like this, I think probably rollbacking the damned packages would fix this |
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| 10:05.26 | kl__ | I don't care about zim spellcheck I just want to read the fonts again |
| 10:05.48 | dontknow | kl__, i don't think rollback would fix the problem |
| 10:06.23 | dontknow | font breaking becomes random. like after installing any package or restarting freezed comnputer |
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| 10:06.28 | kl__ | dontknow what do you think this problem is caused on? It just started after apt-get did its job installing those packages and upgrading the ones who were already installed |
| 10:07.17 | kl__ | my God this is not what I want on my computer then, I don't want it to act and change fonts without the user knowledge |
| 10:07.21 | kl__ | It's simple crazy |
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| 10:07.55 | dontknow | i have encountered it 4-5 times |
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| 10:08.05 | kl__ | how can I fix it? |
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| 10:08.19 | dontknow | i reinstalled system. good luck to you |
| 10:08.24 | kl__ | you know some thngs in XFCE are fine |
| 10:08.43 | kl__ | it doesn't make any sense something must have caused the thing |
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| 10:09.24 | dontknow | but don't mind me. try fixing it |
| 10:09.41 | dontknow | maybe you can succeed |
| 10:10.24 | kl__ | How can I rollback the upgraded packages |
| 10:10.29 | kl__ | if they aren't found by apt-get |
| 10:10.38 | kl__ | it looks like they were removed on the repos |
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| 10:12.00 | kl__ | People speaking of font breaking randomly on a distro that's considered one of the most stable |
| 10:12.14 | kl__ | You've got a long way Debian |
| 10:12.38 | dontknow | kl__, it is not just debian. it happened arch too |
| 10:12.51 | kl__ | As I said it's crazy |
| 10:12.56 | kl__ | packages should be tested more know |
| 10:13.06 | kl__ | I know anything comes without any warranty |
| 10:13.12 | kl__ | but still some people may rely on the OS |
| 10:13.34 | kl__ | and then this crap happens out of nowhere and you can't anymore read the fonts, and reinstalling everything takes time |
| 10:13.53 | kl__ | if I knew that I would have never run that apt-get install command |
| 10:14.30 | kl__ | but who would have ever told me installing some packages may cause this crap. I still think is pango stuff, freetype, or one of the upgraded/newly installed packages that caused it |
| 10:15.13 | SuperTramp83 | I joined in late and I'm curious, what happened to your fonts? |
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| 10:40.22 | pragomer | I can easily add a shell script to startprograms working on debian stretch with xfce. But under Gnome desktop I have 1st to create both, the script AND a desktop-starter-file that points to the script.. without the .desktop file I cannot add it (in gnome-tweak-tool) to autostart. |
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| 10:40.46 | pragomer | isnt there a simplier way to just add a script to autostart, without creating a 2nd file (.desktop) ? |
| 10:41.57 | themill | you only need the .desktop file |
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| 10:51.32 | pragomer | oh.. yes.. you are right themill :-) |
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| 10:57.48 | happo | How can I mirror two drives? I want to do a full backup of one drive. However, when I use: sudo rsync -av --progress /media/drive1 /media/drive2 creates a directory drive1 on drive 2. I don't want that. She drives should be identical at the end of the sync. |
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| 11:00.18 | happo | Never mind. Found the solution. Missing / in first path. |
| 11:00.45 | pumpkinz | On my system /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ doesn't exist and my cpu isn't running at max frequency. |
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| 11:01.33 | pumpkinz | Going to check the bios... |
| 11:01.48 | happo | pumpkinz, dude that means you are fucked. touch luck |
| 11:02.11 | pumpkinz | o.o |
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| 11:02.36 | happo | pumpkinz, did you try a reboot, yet? |
| 11:02.52 | pumpkinz | Yup. |
| 11:03.16 | happo | Could be Russian hackers. |
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| 11:03.46 | pumpkinz | has to be come bios option. |
| 11:03.55 | pumpkinz | I'm going to check... T.T |
| 11:04.00 | happo | ok |
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| 11:07.05 | pragomer | themill: ok, but this desktop-file just does not work: https://pastebin.com/0hcggA8D |
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| 11:10.14 | pragomer | what does not work about this .desktop-file: https://pastebin.com/0hcggA8D |
| 11:10.31 | happo | Anybody really familiar with rsync? |
| 11:11.18 | pragomer | happo... depends on how much familiar you mean ;-) |
| 11:11.27 | happo | If I use the --delete option with rsync while mirroring two hard drives and before the rsync I completely changed the directory structure on drive 1 |
| 11:11.46 | pragomer | ok |
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| 11:11.55 | happo | and then drive 1 dies during rsync |
| 11:12.11 | happo | will everyting be lost then? |
| 11:12.19 | pragomer | very good question |
| 11:12.30 | happo | When does the delete happen? When disc 2 runs out of space? |
| 11:12.40 | happo | I mean incrementally? Or at the beginning? |
| 11:12.58 | pragomer | I also would have to investigate that.. sorry.. |
| 11:13.09 | happo | OK |
| 11:13.50 | happo | That would be really scary. My entire porn collection of 10 years gone in 1 second. |
| 11:13.54 | happo | Worst scenario ever. |
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| 12:02.02 | kl__ | Hello, all I've got a serious problem with fonts after installing some packages you can see here http://pasteall.org/600086/text |
| 12:02.14 | kl__ | I want to revert my system back as it was before installing those packages |
| 12:02.23 | kl__ | Is there any expert here who can help me through? |
| 12:02.28 | kl__ | What I want to accomplish is that? |
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| 12:02.33 | kl__ | What I want to accomplish is that* |
| 12:02.54 | kl__ | Remove all the installed packages(and auto-installed), rollback to the previous version the upgraded one |
| 12:03.24 | kl__ | Since it's impossible to remove the installed and auto-installed ones as they depends on the upgraded ones, I downloaded the version of the upgraded packages from snapshot.debian.org |
| 12:03.41 | kl__ | Now I've got all the 18 upgraded packages .deb file of the version I had before this mess happened |
| 12:04.09 | kl__ | This was required as it was impossible to use apt-get install <package_name>=<old_version> because the version wasn't found |
| 12:04.30 | kl__ | Now I want to replace the upgrade packages with this deb files, and in the same time purging all the installed and auto-installed files |
| 12:04.48 | n4dir | you using kali linux? |
| 12:04.50 | kl__ | How can I do that guys, please help me |
| 12:05.06 | kl__ | ya what's the difference in this task |
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| 12:05.09 | kl__ | I'm using apt-get now |
| 12:05.14 | kl__ | please don't tell me go to another support |
| 12:05.19 | kl__ | I just want my fonts back |
| 12:05.25 | qman__ | kali is not debian |
| 12:05.28 | kl__ | If you know about apt and apt-get, it will works |
| 12:05.30 | jelly | kl__: are you on debian or kali? |
| 12:05.31 | kl__ | I know very well |
| 12:06.01 | kl__ | Come on guys, I'm not breaking the law, just asking support here, I've no time to switch another distro now.. |
| 12:06.35 | kl__ | If I try to install those .deb files, if I try to purge the packages it fails. I need to do the same tasks in the same time but I can't figure out how |
| 12:06.44 | kl__ | Can you help me? |
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| 12:07.14 | kl__ | holy cow something is wrong with the linux community |
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| 12:07.24 | jelly | in this channel I choose to provide support to debian community, sorry. Ask in ##linux if you're running something else |
| 12:07.41 | kl__ | I just want my system back |
| 12:07.44 | kl__ | what did I do wrong? |
| 12:07.53 | kl__ | there's no one askng for support now |
| 12:07.59 | kl__ | it's looks like racist for distros here |
| 12:08.10 | kl__ | racism I mean |
| 12:08.14 | jelly | yes. This isn't #debian-and-derivatives |
| 12:08.27 | kl__ | My fault to not use debian |
| 12:08.32 | jelly | correct |
| 12:08.36 | kl__ | But since I can't switch now |
| 12:08.46 | kl__ | may I get the fonts back, and switch another day? |
| 12:08.54 | mr__tea | you can :) |
| 12:08.59 | mr__tea | it is that you dont want |
| 12:09.05 | kl__ | no |
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| 12:09.09 | mr__tea | you can switch as you wish :) |
| 12:09.12 | kl__ | it is I've no GB to download Debian |
| 12:09.24 | kl__ | that's the problem now |
| 12:09.28 | mr__tea | heh |
| 12:09.31 | kl__ | and no time to move all the stuff to a new system |
| 12:09.36 | qman__ | 18 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1939 not upgraded.\ |
| 12:09.45 | kl__ | that's it |
| 12:09.49 | qman__ | I suspect you've added sources to kali which are not kali, and created a !frankendebian |
| 12:09.56 | kl__ | no |
| 12:10.00 | kl__ | never happened |
| 12:10.03 | jelly | a frankenkali, more likely |
| 12:10.11 | n4dir | whereever you may ask, do less chat and give more relevant info (in this case the exact output what you call "it fails" |
| 12:10.27 | kl__ | ok thanks |
| 12:10.31 | jelly | in any case, the right place to ask is either your distro's channel or ##linux |
| 12:11.26 | jelly | there is no channel on freenode for generic dpkg and apt help, sadly |
| 12:11.41 | mr__tea | BOEM! |
| 12:11.47 | mr__tea | a frankendebian! |
| 12:12.02 | mr__tea | a frankenkalibian |
| 12:12.29 | kl__ | they're not helping anyone on kali channel usually |
| 12:12.36 | mr__tea | no help! |
| 12:12.36 | qman__ | in any case, 1939 not upgraded is a very unhealthy state |
| 12:12.40 | GPenguin | what is this frank doing there? |
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| 12:12.51 | mr__tea | GPenguin: hanging around |
| 12:12.51 | n4dir | that is a damn good reason not to use kali |
| 12:12.55 | kl__ | I know, but I cannot upgrade now |
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| 12:13.16 | kl__ | ya it was when I was messing around with aircrack-ng and metasploit I installed it |
| 12:13.21 | GPenguin | mr__tea: okay, a happy ending to you |
| 12:13.22 | kl__ | by the way, https://paste.debian.net/989455/ |
| 12:13.42 | kl__ | if I try to install the old deb packages |
| 12:13.43 | mr__tea | GPenguin: :) |
| 12:13.46 | kl__ | I've got this |
| 12:14.14 | jelly | keeping a rolling release distro workng at all times is HARD. One of the reasons debian doesn't try to do it |
| 12:14.43 | n4dir | i wouldn't consider it hard, most of the time, but it sure is time-consumin |
| 12:14.52 | x109 | hey everyone, I just got my new system put together and am ready to install debian. I'm trying to fully understand the whole UEFI boot but I understand that I have to have a GPT formatted partition. I have that down but then it comes to setting up the disks in the installer. I choose a 248G ext4 and 2G swap..where does ESP come into play? I feel like I'm missing something |
| 12:14.57 | qman__ | you probably won't be able to use apt-get to return to the previous state - you can attempt manually installing them with dpkg, but that may result in an even more broken state |
| 12:15.13 | jelly | !partial downgrade |
| 12:15.13 | dpkg | This may or may not work for you, but if you've got nothing to lose then try it: (a) change sources.list (b) aptitude update (c) aptitude and then search for the upgraded packages, hit enter on them, select the correct version (d) do the same for libc6 (e) search for broken packages by pressing "b" and then fix them in the same way (f) once you have no more broken packages, hit 'g'. See <not available>. |
| 12:15.14 | kl__ | I'm starting to see |
| 12:15.23 | kl__ | as soon as the system boots, I wish to try |
| 12:15.27 | kl__ | as long* |
| 12:15.54 | x109 | I don't plan on dual booting either. Just want to setup debian on the blank nvme ssd |
| 12:16.04 | GPenguin | you can install debian in less than 30 minutes |
| 12:16.07 | Mahe | kl__, you do have the previous versions you wish to return to downloaded as .deb files? |
| 12:16.11 | kl__ | see https://paste.debian.net/989456/ |
| 12:16.12 | kl__ | yes |
| 12:16.22 | kl__ | I've and thanks you guy to understand me |
| 12:16.30 | jelly | x109: if you don't have that uefi partition thing you'll probably have to create it. I have no idea whether debian-installer creates one automatically or not |
| 12:16.37 | kl__ | Unluckily I can't download Debian now as I've got no GB(Mobile connection, portable hotspot) |
| 12:16.57 | n4dir | go to an interent cafe, a friend, a neigbhbour, etc. |
| 12:17.04 | n4dir | or order it per mail |
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| 12:17.07 | kl__ | impossible where I am |
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| 12:17.28 | kl__ | no time for that now too, I just want to do a simple task for export of apt and apt-get |
| 12:17.32 | x109 | the uefi partition you're referring to is the esp partition, correct? |
| 12:17.36 | kl__ | I've got all the 18 packages |
| 12:17.45 | GPenguin | kl__: buy a magazine that has various isos on 1 dvd |
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| 12:18.13 | jelly | kl__: again, ask for help in ##linux not here; if anyone wants to help you they can /join ##linux |
| 12:18.23 | kl__ | you'd still have to download the packages you want in your system, move back files, a lot of time, no magazine is sold here |
| 12:18.45 | jelly | assuming #kali-linux is not useful or awake, that'd theoretically be a better place to ask |
| 12:18.53 | kl__ | I'll try but |
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| 12:19.02 | kl__ | if you know the solution, we're playing like child |
| 12:19.20 | kl__ | no one is asking help now |
| 12:19.25 | GPenguin | you try to guilt trip people |
| 12:19.29 | GPenguin | thats very rude |
| 12:19.33 | jelly | kl__: I'd be setting a precedent that tells it's okay for any derivative user to come in ask for help here |
| 12:19.36 | anonyme | kl__: ? |
| 12:19.39 | kl__ | I'm just trying to get your help, no more |
| 12:19.54 | kl__ | I see |
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| 12:20.52 | jelly | the current policy is to provide help to Debian users, and ask users of derivatives to either reproduce the same issue in actual Debian, or ask their distro people; please respect our choice. |
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| 12:21.21 | jelly | I'm not saying it's the best policy, but there are valid reasons for it |
| 12:21.54 | n4dir | https://wiki.debian.org/TheFable |
| 12:22.02 | jelly | (one reason is we don't know what changes a derivative may have made) |
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| 12:22.46 | kl__ | I understand, but still I think we have far too many repos, and some things like security of kali linux are good, but community help quite sucks imo,as it is mainly use as pen testing only distro(imho) |
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| 12:27.14 | kl__ | n4dir jelly I understand you know and I read TheFable |
| 12:27.51 | kl__ | but still, the fact people using debian based distro can't get help is not a good thing, I understand your reason, but still it's not a good thing. I think this is one of the most effective support channel |
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| 12:28.31 | kl__ | I've only used a few distros, the only other channel when I've got help was openSUSE(though it required something like a day for unmute alsamixer card) |
| 12:29.01 | jelly | kl__: maybe that's a good reason for avoiding those distros. |
| 12:29.33 | SpikeHeron | kl__, the fact is you've been here 25 minutes yapping about nothing when you could have just joined ##linux and maybe had your system fixed by now... |
| 12:29.40 | jelly | and maybe an incentive to not make tiny distros if you can't support your users |
| 12:30.27 | kl__ | ok but that's a pen testing distro and it's well known is good on security, some things I noticed are good, performance is also good, and it's shipped with some useful little things I always appreciated to found eventually |
| 12:30.32 | n4dir | in that case you could argue that someone willing to do pentesting should be able to solve the basic problems himself. jelly |
| 12:31.12 | n4dir | you could also argue why someon willing to do pentesting is not able to install the according tools on debian, of course. |
| 12:31.22 | jelly | because it's a PITA |
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| 12:33.23 | kl__ | I can say you can install tools but apply the security changes is difficult on your own |
| 12:33.55 | kl__ | or even something like the Wi-Fi who does never "suspend"(I've no idea how it works, but it's different from Debian, I know because I used powertop and because it consume a lot of energy) |
| 12:36.00 | jelly | kl__: this is really offtopic; unless you have a debian support question, please keep quiet. I've already highlighted you in ##linux and suggested to ask there if you want help solving the immediate issue |
| 12:37.08 | kl__ | jelly got it |
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| 12:39.57 | pragomer | how can I use "echo" in a desktop-starter? thats my starter but it does not work: https://pastebin.com/hYg8ytt0 |
| 12:40.52 | jelly | pragomer: sh -c 'echo "2" > /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode' |
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| 12:41.48 | Mahe | pragomer, additionally, do non-root users have write permission on this path? |
| 12:41.50 | jelly | /bin/sh, even |
| 12:42.21 | pragomer | no they havent.. trying to enable the f1 to f10 keys by default on my macbook, and not the funtions.. |
| 12:42.37 | pragomer | i thought, in autostart, scripts are executed as root? |
| 12:43.04 | pragomer | how could I do this else? would be thankful for good ideas |
| 12:43.42 | jelly | pragomer: in desktop environment's autostart things are run as the user that logged in |
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| 12:44.34 | pragomer | mm ok, how could I do it else? I knew things like /etc/rc.local but this is obsolte in stretch, right? |
| 12:44.38 | pragomer | obsolete |
| 12:44.38 | jelly | if you want a sysfs value set at boot, use sysfsutils maybe |
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| 12:45.01 | themill | (topicdiff: 9.2 released; btw 9.2 has /etc/debian_version of 9.1) |
| 12:45.18 | jelly | because reasons? |
| 12:46.03 | themill | wasn't uploaded, noone noticed |
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| 12:46.56 | pragomer | how to realize this with sysfsutils? |
| 12:46.56 | pragomer | no idea.. so sorry |
| 12:46.56 | pragomer | but hey.. a more generally question: how to execute a startscript under debian9-gnome with root-rights? |
| 12:46.59 | jelly | pragomer: or, since it's a kernel moudle option, put it in /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf |
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| 12:47.22 | jelly | pragomer: or, since it's a kernel moudle option, put it in /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf |
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| 12:48.47 | jelly | options hid_apple fnmode=2 # in the latter, presumably, judging by output of "modinfo hid_apple" |
| 12:49.11 | pragomer | so I add this |
| 12:49.11 | pragomer | options hid_apple fnmode=2 |
| 12:49.17 | pragomer | to local.conf ?? |
| 12:49.26 | jelly | and next reboot things just happen |
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| 12:49.48 | pragomer | local.conf does not yet exist, is this right? |
| 12:50.04 | jelly | yes, you create any local config |
| 12:50.10 | pragomer | ok.. added the line |
| 12:50.10 | jelly | that's why it's local |
| 12:50.11 | pragomer | options hid_apple fnmode=2 |
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| 12:50.17 | pragomer | to it... now rebooting |
| 12:50.34 | jelly | the file name is really just an example |
| 12:51.12 | jelly | wonders whether hid_apple.ko gets loaded during initramfs instead |
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| 12:54.46 | pragomer | hey jelly. you made my day so so much.. I was looking for this easy solution for week. thank you so so much !! |
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| 12:54.52 | pragomer | worked just perfect |
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| 12:57.17 | shellclear_ | Someone knows what package install intel gpu tools and drivers? |
| 12:57.44 | anonyme | I don't know |
| 12:57.50 | anonyme | I think it is not needed |
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| 12:58.07 | anonyme | I'm nearly sure |
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| 12:59.16 | jelly | shellclear_: what kinds of tools? |
| 12:59.56 | jelly | the driver bits are all over, kernel, mesa, dri, vaapi. |
| 13:00.14 | jelly | and you get most of them by default |
| 13:01.08 | shellclear_ | jelly: my question is because I seen few days a laptop with an icon intel |
| 13:01.25 | shellclear_ | in the cynamon panel |
| 13:02.01 | shellclear_ | just curiosity |
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| 13:02.22 | shellclear_ | I do not know if exists |
| 13:02.24 | jelly | no idea where that might come from. Maybe people in #intel-gfx do |
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| 13:03.26 | shellclear_ | jelly: thanks |
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| 13:12.58 | Lope | resolvconf is not working with /etc/network/interfaces static IP |
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| 13:13.07 | Lope | I have a dead simple situation |
| 13:13.53 | Lope | If I specify dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 |
| 13:14.06 | Lope | and ifdown and then ifup the interface /etc/resolv.conf doesn't get the nameservers. |
| 13:14.27 | Lope | If I add stuff like dns-search then it adds dns-search to /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:14.35 | Lope | It's driving me nuts, please help? |
| 13:15.11 | Lope | I've tried "dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8" as well. it was also ignored. |
| 13:15.21 | Lope | I tried restarting the resolvconf service. |
| 13:15.46 | Lope | I can't remove resolvconf because I use wifi on this PC sometimes. |
| 13:16.04 | Lope | This is for a standard eth0 style static ip connection |
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| 13:19.58 | jelly | Lope: weird, which debian release? |
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| 13:21.20 | Lope | oops, sorry this one is ubuntu 16.04. I'm working on diff machines simultaneously and got mixed up. |
| 13:21.48 | jelly | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
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| 13:23.22 | jelly | Lope: look out for NetworkManager and dnsmasq on that OS |
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| 13:24.48 | Lope | I've got networkmanager |
| 13:25.06 | Lope | Does it mess up resolvconf's use of /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 13:25.29 | Lope | My interfaces file is dead simple. http://codepad.org/Ep78VVVl |
| 13:25.31 | jelly | one hopes #ubuntu will have an answer to that question |
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| 13:52.48 | turlutton | Hi there, I want to burn isohybrid to my usb stick. Unfortunately, I can't juste use dd, I have to use the script provided by isohybrid to prepare the iso. The problem is that it uses /usb/block/*/removable to know if an usb stick is plugged to the system, and for the usb stick I want to use, there is "0" in that file. I'm lost, it seems to me I can't change the "removable" file. Is there a solution? Is this normal that file |
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| 13:54.14 | turlutton | Err, s/isohybrid/systemrescuecd/ |
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| 14:03.25 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:06.38 | Lope | `apt-get remove --purge resolvconf` aka hellspawn solved it. |
| 14:07.05 | centrix | I was asked to check an old debian server and would like to know when it was updated lastly. |
| 14:07.18 | centrix | /var/lib/apt/periodic? |
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| 14:08.10 | centrix | Updated. No new packages added. |
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| 14:09.04 | centrix | /etc/debian_version : 6.0.6 Probably before the WWI, correct? |
| 14:09.18 | centrix | I am not the debian distro guy. |
| 14:09.45 | adc | centrix: https://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/ |
| 14:10.41 | centrix | adc, was initially released on February 6th, 2011 |
| 14:10.47 | somiaj | you can check /var/log/ for dpkg or apts log to see the last time a package was installed. But 6.0.6 has not been updated for a while now. |
| 14:11.21 | centrix | For a while? Since the last days of dinosaurs :) |
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| 14:13.14 | centrix | OK. Thank you both |
| 14:13.14 | turlutton | Brigo: If it was easy why not, but I went through a bunch of problem, like readonly and I'm afraid it will need a chain of modification. |
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| 14:14.03 | turlutton | Brigo: if there a is a proper way to do it, like rewriting the removable file. |
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| 14:15.32 | Brigo | turlutton, have you tryed? |
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| 14:15.57 | pragomer | in gnome-tweak-tool, energy, I can only set "hibernate" or "suspend" as action for pressing power button. how can I get reboot/shutdown options?? |
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| 14:19.21 | turlutton | Brigo: readonly with root |
| 14:21.20 | turlutton | https://framapic.org/QnYrYWfywHhb/dh93Fz1B5x4v.png |
| 14:22.33 | turlutton | See the 2 windows in the bottom left. |
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| 14:28.31 | turlutton | Gonna try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb following a post. |
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| 14:41.49 | Kobaz | anything special i need to do, to get a kernel booting on uefi? It's freezing on 'Loading linux....' |
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| 14:44.33 | somiaj | You shoudl'nt need to do anything. How did you make your system bootable in the first place |
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| 14:51.16 | sever | #debian-offtopic |
| 14:52.00 | Kobaz | somiaj: grub installed with debian-netinst |
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| 14:52.27 | Kobaz | somiaj: older kernels can boot. 4.9.x, having trouble getting 4.12 booting |
| 14:52.27 | GilesB | Hello |
| 14:52.52 | pierrot | Hi. After doing `sudo apt-get upgrade`, I see the following message: "Los siguientes paquetes se han retenido: linux-headers-amd64 linux-image-amd64" |
| 14:52.55 | GilesB | Why did my mdadm resync start today : https://pastebin.com/0AtVcEuf |
| 14:53.01 | pierrot | How can I solve this? |
| 14:53.17 | pierrot | I'm on Debian 9 |
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| 15:09.48 | A|an | Printscreen has stopped working for me...how do you reset it? |
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| 15:15.16 | A|an | Actually, it's the printscreen key that fails to do a screen capture...applications/utilities/screenshot works |
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| 15:34.42 | Spacedev | Hi, I am trying to manipulate files/directories on my phone's SD card, but I am getting "Operation Unsupported". I can copy files from PC -> SD card, just can't do anything to the files after that. I plug it into my windows laptop and can do what I want with no issue, how can I get this done in debian 9? Thanks for any info. |
| 15:34.48 | teclo- | afternoon, what's again the magic word to configure the keyboard layout ? dpkg-reconfigure keyboardsomething ? |
| 15:35.02 | Epakai | A|an: what desktop environment (gnome, kde, etc.)? |
| 15:35.42 | Epakai | teclo-: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration |
| 15:35.54 | teclo- | Epakai: thank you very much |
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| 15:43.11 | A|an | sorry...gnmoe |
| 15:43.14 | A|an | gnome |
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| 15:44.03 | A|an | little backstory...I got really really low on space on my ssd...and had to delete/move stuff...this is correlated with that |
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| 15:44.39 | Epakai | A|an: I would make sure gnome-screenshot is installed, then double check your keyboard shortcuts in gnome settings are configured to run it |
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| 15:45.15 | A|an | okay, will do...thanks |
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| 16:19.51 | refeaime | Hello, guys. I need your guidence. |
| 16:19.51 | refeaime | So I do have used debootstrap from another linux destro launched on my machine. |
| 16:19.51 | refeaime | Now I need to install debian to Vbox machine. Have only debian_netinstall. And need to install system from CLI. So expert install, locales, repos and finaly ash. |
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| 16:20.39 | refeaime | How do I manage block device?... There is no parted or fdisk. And no dpkg to install it. ANd otherwise... I will need to install dependencies. |
| 16:21.54 | jelly | you usually prepare block devices before using debootstrap, otherwise you don't have anywhere to debootstrap onto |
| 16:22.22 | nvz | I get the idea none of this is related and the relevant informatin hasn't been said yet |
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| 16:22.43 | jelly | refeaime: if you have a netinst image, why don't you just install the base system the normal way |
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| 16:23.59 | refeaime | jelly: well... I could use usual installer... BUt I more comfortable with CLI install\ |
| 16:24.43 | refeaime | hm. I know, I will prepeare block device in another virtual machine. |
| 16:24.44 | refeaime | Thanks |
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| 16:31.37 | annadane | isn't expert mode cli install...? |
| 16:31.49 | annadane | i mean i know you at least have that option |
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| 16:34.06 | n4dir | and don't both do the same anyway? The one uses something like ncurses, the other, gui, has a bit of background colors, but that's about it |
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| 16:34.26 | n4dir | well: and you can use a mouse ... |
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| 16:35.19 | jelly | it's not CLI, it's dialog-based (curses) |
| 16:35.30 | jelly | terminal, yes, cli, no |
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| 16:35.54 | ikus060 | Hello, trying to download stretch CD for installation. Is it me or only the netinstall are available for download ? |
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| 16:36.26 | jelly | ikus060: since a point release just happened, it's possible other images are not ready yet |
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| 16:37.33 | ikus060 | jelly: I'm looking here: https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/9.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 16:37.42 | ikus060 | for previous version anyway |
| 16:37.44 | Somelauw | Is it correct that packages in sid but not in buster, are moved from sid to buster after 30 days? |
| 16:38.02 | somiaj | Somelauw: no |
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| 16:38.38 | somiaj | Somelauw: you should go read the sid/testing FAQ and developemtn procss. The time line is a minmial of 10 days, plus no rc-bugs, plus able to meed depends in buster. |
| 16:39.19 | SuperTramp83 | ikus060: wait a day or two, images are not ready yet apparently |
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| 16:40.00 | lionrouge_ | hi ! |
| 16:40.18 | nvz | ikus060: http://debian.mirrors.pair.com/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-9.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso |
| 16:40.37 | jelly | ikus060: there's an xfce cd image there, is there not? |
| 16:40.50 | jelly | 9.1 has not been archived yet |
| 16:41.06 | somiaj | Somelauw: on top of that developers can put a block to prevent the package from migrating for other reasons. |
| 16:41.14 | lionrouge_ | how to setup static network settings in Debian 9 ? I'm completely lost in these tools from network-manager to /etc/network/interfaces.d to systemd |
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| 16:41.33 | nvz | ikus060: as previously stated 9.2 point release was just made, so it may take awhile for the 9.2 images to be made but you can always install an old one and apt-get upgrade to install the security fixes from security.debian.org |
| 16:41.34 | somiaj | lionrouge_: pick the tool you like the best and use it. They can all setup a static network. |
| 16:41.46 | jelly | ikus060: other desktop enviroments are so large they don't fit on a cd-sized image. look at dvd-sized images instead. |
| 16:41.55 | somiaj | lionrouge_: /etc/network/interfraces is the debian default, but you can use network manager if you like, or even systemd's networkd if you like. |
| 16:42.09 | Delf | Is there a fix for this? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=858222 |
| 16:42.10 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/858222 in systemd (open): «systemd: multi-seat not working : no gdm appear in second seat when attaching graphic card»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-03-19; last modified: 2017-07-25. |
| 16:42.32 | lionrouge_ | somiaj, looks like network-manager replaces settings done with /etc/network/ |
| 16:42.36 | jelly | Delf: if there's a workaround someone usually mentions it as a reply in the bug report |
| 16:42.38 | n4dir | lionrouge_: as far i can tell: for starters you *either* use network-manager *or* you use the interfaces file, not both. As far systemd is concerned: no clue. |
| 16:43.28 | Delf | jelly: Yes, thanks. The workaround is not using gdm (use lightdm instead) for multi-seat in stretch. |
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| 16:44.02 | somiaj | lionrouge_: by default network-manager will ignore any interface configured in /etc/network/interfaces -- but yes you should only use one of the tools |
| 16:44.17 | lionrouge_ | i will disable it in such a case |
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| 16:46.00 | lionrouge_ | somiaj, thanks |
| 16:46.01 | Just4fun | hi? |
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| 16:49.52 | annadane | Just4fun, hi, go ahead and ask |
| 16:50.23 | Lyberta | hi, I have an ISO image of mixed-mode CD where first track is data and other are audio, how can I rip audio from it? |
| 16:50.41 | Delf | Don't ask without permission, it's rude. For example⦠can I ask a question? <-- that's asking without permission! |
| 16:50.43 | Lyberta | I've tried ripit and asunder, they both failed to detect it |
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| 16:50.58 | annadane | Delf, that's not necessary |
| 16:51.50 | Delf | annadane: Yes, it's unnecessary to ask if one can ask. Just ask what it is you want to ask and be rude for good reason :) |
| 16:52.05 | nvz | Lyberta: tried cdparanoia? |
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| 16:52.14 | n4dir | another option would be abcde |
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| 16:52.27 | n4dir | though it might be it uses cdparanoia |
| 16:52.37 | jelly | Lyberta: that can't be an "iso" image, are you sure it's not cue/bin ? |
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| 16:53.16 | Lyberta | jelly, yes, it's ISO and I can mount it and read data track |
| 16:53.18 | jelly | iso9660 is just a single track of data |
| 16:53.25 | annadane | if anything you have it backwards, "can i ask a question" *is* requesting permission to ask. but i was more saying that let's not get into the whole "rude" thing |
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| 16:54.17 | Delf | annadane: I was being ironic and funny⦠|
| 16:54.27 | jelly | Lyberta: and how smaller is the mounted data compared to the whole .iso file? |
| 16:54.56 | Lyberta | jelly, how can I tell? |
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| 16:55.13 | jelly | Lyberta: ls -ld file.iso, df |
| 16:55.24 | Lyberta | so the whole iso is 482.3 MiB |
| 16:55.37 | jelly | and what does df say about the mounted filesystem? |
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| 16:57.18 | Lyberta | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:59.04 | nvz | there is no audio in that file |
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| 17:00.35 | jelly | Lyberta: so, given that there's a filesystem or 482MiB size, and the file is 482MiB sized, there's no place for audio tracks to hide |
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| 17:00.42 | jelly | s/or/of/ |
| 17:01.17 | jelly | either any audio is hiding inside the filesystem or the rip is not complete |
| 17:01.37 | Lyberta | maybe |
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| 17:02.10 | jelly | if you have some other theory, feel free to provide it |
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| 17:44.40 | cybrNaut | http://sprunge.us/RTDL <= seems to be a bug with aptitude. Should I submit that as a bug report? |
| 17:44.52 | cybrNaut | aptitude is saying " |
| 17:44.58 | cybrNaut | invalid sig" when it's valid |
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| 18:13.26 | tomdickharry | hey, used debian, then ubuntu....i tried installing debian on virtualbox recently and it wouldn't detect my mouse input....so i said f*** this....what can go wrong will go wrong it seems concerning me |
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| 18:14.20 | annadane | well, that's probably a virtualbox problem on ubuntu then and probably not appropriate for this channel |
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| 18:20.07 | discovered | tomdickharry, you used the latest virtualbox? |
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| 18:21.16 | tomdickharry | to the first reply....ubuntu works fine in virtualbox among a few others....secondly, yes it is the latest version of the software |
| 18:21.50 | awal1 | tomdickharry, what OS is your host? |
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| 18:22.51 | tomdickharry | awal1, its windows but it's a usb mouse so the driver must not be compatible with debian?? |
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| 18:23.06 | tomdickharry | anyone else ever encountered a similar issue? |
| 18:23.28 | anonyme | what? |
| 18:23.56 | anonyme | you don't have any drives for a usb mouse |
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| 18:24.20 | tomdickharry | anonyme, please... |
| 18:24.42 | anonyme | tomdickharry: you don't need any drives for a usb mouse |
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| 18:25.22 | tomdickharry | i'm sure windows has a driver for your usb mouse...a generic one |
| 18:25.30 | anonyme | tomdickharry: have you tried installing debian on a real machine? |
| 18:25.39 | anonyme | tomdickharry: have you tried installing debian/ubuntu on a real machine? |
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| 18:25.57 | DrBunsen | Hello, I am have setup openVPN, but now I am encountering the issue that it seems that I can't open the 1194 udp port in ufw, I set it with 'sudo ufw allow 1194/upd' and the status reports it as open, but when I check the port from another pc with nmap it says it is closed. The weird thing is that it reports the same port is open with the tcp protocol. The ufw status and nmap reports are here https://paste.debian.net/989494/ Can anyone m |
| 18:25.57 | DrBunsen | ake sense out of this? Thanks in advance. |
| 18:26.07 | anonyme | tomdickharry: Sometimes it doesn't detect touchpad but I've never noticed that it wouldn't be able to detect a usb mouse |
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| 18:26.23 | tomdickharry | anonyme, its a vm i want...i have tried running them on hardware before with issues with debian |
| 18:26.45 | anonyme | tomdickharry: check the checksums and gpg keys of the iso image |
| 18:26.46 | tomdickharry | anonyme, well i've lots of ubuntu derivatives on here anyway |
| 18:26.53 | Somelauw | I was doing apt-get dist-upgrade and ran into an error "Errors were encountered while processing:" |
| 18:26.55 | Somelauw | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.57 | Somelauw | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 18:27.05 | tomdickharry | anonyme, perhaps actually |
| 18:27.10 | tomdickharry | anonyme, thanks |
| 18:27.17 | Somelauw | How to recover from this eror? |
| 18:27.41 | tomdickharry | Somelauw, you need to google it first man |
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| 18:28.10 | DrBunsen | Somelauw: tried 'apt-get install -f' ? That is the first thing you should always try |
| 18:28.11 | tomdickharry | Somelauw, anyways maybe your disk is just full or something |
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| 18:29.45 | Somelauw | DrBunsen: i'll try |
| 18:29.57 | annadane | as i already said, it doesn't sound like a debian problem |
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| 18:30.03 | annadane | you can try asking in a virtualbox support channel |
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| 18:33.40 | tomdickharry | annadane, to be honest i don't really want to go to that work...it's just a pity...ill try it again in the future, thanks |
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| 18:40.49 | DrBunsen | I am have setup openVPN, but now I am encountering the issue that it seems that I can't open the 1194 udp port in ufw, I set it with 'sudo ufw allow 1194/upd' and the status reports it as open, but when I check the port from another pc with nmap it says it is closed. The weird thing is that it reports the same port is open with the tcp protocol. The ufw status and nmap reports are here https://paste.debian.net/989494/ Can anyone make sen |
| 18:40.49 | DrBunsen | se out of this? |
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| 18:42.29 | annadane | DrBunsen, based on your name are you by any chance using bunsenlabs? |
| 18:44.23 | DrBunsen | anadane: I have only just fixed the banana problem. But I didn't know about bunsenlabs being an distro ;) |
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| 18:44.55 | annadane | ah, okay. just wanted to make things shorter if you were, because bunsenlabs isn't supported in the channel |
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| 18:45.02 | annadane | if you're on debian then no problem |
| 18:45.43 | DrBunsen | annadane: Running debian stable. |
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| 18:47.25 | Somelauw | One improvement to apt-get is that when updating and there is a conflict between an old and a new config file, it can be more explicit about what to do when you open a shell session. |
| 18:48.15 | DrBunsen | What do you mean? |
| 18:48.18 | Somelauw | what i did is to merge them and delete the new dpkg-new file, but it seems I should have kept that one |
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| 18:49.08 | Somelauw | so it told me "dpkg: warning: pulseaudio: failed to rename '/etc/pulse/daemon.conf.dpkg-new' to '/etc/pulse/daemon.conf.dpkg-dist': No such file or directory" |
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| 18:51.10 | DrBunsen | did you have a special self written config? Otherwise just reconfigure the package and you should be fine |
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| 18:53.42 | Somelauw | because my idea to resolve them manually is to edit /etc/pulse/deamon.conf with the changes and remove |
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| 18:55.00 | Somelauw | not really, I only made "flat-volumes = no", because I remember setting it to "yes", would make my volume go up to 100% sometimes |
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| 18:55.18 | jakd | hello , i want to download something in github to my own dir , how? |
| 18:55.57 | Somelauw | jakd: "git clone url" |
| 18:56.05 | Somelauw | or "download as zip" |
| 18:56.31 | DrBunsen | install the package git before attempting git clone |
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| 19:02.46 | Somelauw | DrBunsen: thanks, only I ended up with "W: APT had planned for dpkg to do more than it reported back (3721 vs 3734)." |
| 19:02.48 | Somelauw | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:15.20 | altab | SpikeHeron ! my folder has immuable attribute |
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| 19:22.03 | SpikeHeron | altab, so that maybe explains the broken pipe error and indicates it's not a grsec/pax problem (I really should have asked about that first!) |
| 19:22.21 | altab | I removed -i and -a flags and now it's working well |
| 19:22.42 | SpikeHeron | altab, fantastiche! |
| 19:22.59 | altab | I don't know why and how the servers put -i and -a everywhere |
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| 19:27.27 | ransur0t | Hi folks. Recent stretch 9.2 update has resulted in errors for evolution-common and the new stable amd64 kernel. Please see paste: http://paste.debian.net/989495. |
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| 19:27.56 | ransur0t | Has anyone else received this error? |
| 19:29.05 | magnulu | my pc wont power off after "sudo halt" - any general thoughts on why? |
| 19:29.44 | ransur0t | magnulu: try the full path to halt command |
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| 19:30.28 | ransur0t | for example: /sbin/shutdown -h now |
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| 19:31.05 | SpikeHeron | magnulu, halt != poweroff. Use halt -p to poweroff. |
| 19:32.05 | magnulu | interesting.. let me try |
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| 19:39.01 | sear | hello, anyone know about any timer software? |
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| 19:40.11 | ikus060 | Hello im trying to create a preseed iso and iam having trouble |
| 19:40.42 | ikus060 | the same script generating preseed is working for jessie and wheezy. im trying to figure out why its failling |
| 19:40.51 | ikus060 | any tips where I should look for ? |
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| 19:42.58 | ewew | what about cron or crontab ? |
| 19:43.29 | ewew | sear ^ |
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| 19:48.22 | magnulu | I am back - worked like a charm with '-p' to the halt command to poweroff.. never knew I needed that :P |
| 19:48.50 | magnulu | now I have to figure out why my network adapter only sporadically gets an ip from dhcp... |
| 19:49.22 | magnulu | booted earler - no network connection |
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| 19:49.42 | magnulu | connected a monitor to troubleshoot, rebooted, network working as a charm |
| 19:50.12 | magnulu | rebooted now - no network again.. needed to manually "dhclient enp3s0" |
| 19:50.18 | magnulu | why on earth? |
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| 19:51.13 | CygniX | dead? https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-9.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 19:53.04 | maziar | I am creating a lot of small files with m3u8 format and I do want rsync copy all of them but rsync is stop copying those files, because each files is creating every 4 second , what should I do to copy these files from local server to remote server |
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| 19:58.29 | sear | crontab? |
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| 19:58.39 | sear | anything with a gui >.<? |
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| 19:59.19 | h903 | hi where can i fi d |
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| 19:59.40 | sear | but anyway i don't need to trigger application |
| 19:59.43 | h903 | find tar.gz root file systemm |
| 19:59.51 | sear | i just need an alarm clock or something |
| 20:00.42 | h903 | im lookin 4 debian.rootfs.arch.tar.gz |
| 20:01.05 | h903 | where cn i find itm |
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| 20:12.13 | NEOalquimista | Anyone having problems with the debian repositories? |
| 20:12.41 | anonyme | NEOalquimista: I'm gonna check it |
| 20:13.07 | anonyme | NEOalquimista: I'm not having any problems with the french debian repositories |
| 20:13.18 | NEOalquimista | All of a sudden I can't update or install anything. |
| 20:13.40 | NEOalquimista | CHanged to US mirror, to ftp, other countries, nothing |
| 20:14.27 | NEOalquimista | it cannot resolve the mirrors |
| 20:14.42 | towo` | NEOalquimista, which message you get? |
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| 20:15.07 | towo` | NEOalquimista, sounds like you have generic networking problems |
| 20:15.19 | NEOalquimista | It just fails with "temporary failure resolving <mirror>" |
| 20:15.27 | NEOalquimista | Yes, I suspect |
| 20:15.39 | NEOalquimista | I have two computers running debian, both are affected |
| 20:16.21 | towo` | NEOalquimista, ping -c4 google.com is working? |
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| 20:17.10 | altab | I have an error using proftpd... I have a 550 PWD permission denied error when I try to connect with Filezilla. The user has a correct home (chmod 775 + chown, confirmed when I connect with SSH) | proftpd config file : http://paste.debian.net/989511/ |
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| 20:17.53 | NEOalquimista | towo': yes, it works |
| 20:18.19 | NEOalquimista | I can browse the web just fine too |
| 20:18.30 | NEOalquimista | it's just debian repos that fail |
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| 20:19.13 | NEOalquimista | You know, the Software & Updates app from GNOME... it freezes while refreshing the cache, it hangs while trying to update the repos. |
| 20:19.35 | NEOalquimista | Less than an hour ago I was installing updates |
| 20:19.39 | NEOalquimista | now this... |
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| 20:20.19 | NEOalquimista | I didn't change any settings, it just happened on its own. I have non-free and contrib. Does it work if I change from http to https at /etc/apt/sources.list? |
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| 20:23.49 | NEOalquimista | I'll try again later. |
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| 20:39.15 | magnulu | regarding having to start dhclient manually after boot - if someone could take a look at my syslog and give me a educated guess as to why, I would be delighted: http://paste.debian.net/989517/ |
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| 20:39.53 | ewew | did you upgrade from jessie to stretch ? |
| 20:40.28 | magnulu | at 22:15:19 I manually started dhclient |
| 20:40.33 | magnulu | ewew: no, fresh install |
| 20:41.17 | ewew | ok. configure ifupdown to setting up the enp3s0 device to use dhcp |
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| 20:43.34 | magnulu | ewew: /etc/network/interfaces already contains 'iface enp3s0 inet dhcp |
| 20:43.47 | magnulu | meant to be with a trailing ' |
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| 20:44.11 | ewew | add before it auto enp3s0 |
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| 20:46.17 | magnulu | ewew: this is the whole file - http://paste.debian.net/989521/ - I would add 'auto enp3s0' above 'allow-hotplug ...' - correct? |
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| 20:47.46 | ewew | looks good. not deconfigure the device with ifdown enp3s0 and then ifup enp3s0. If this is your only link to internet then be carefull. |
| 20:47.56 | ewew | *now |
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| 20:49.16 | magnulu | not only is it my only link, it is my headless NAS (not so headless atm) which I am also running irssi from.. brb :-) |
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| 20:49.51 | magnulu | "NAS" - file server, plaything.. |
| 20:49.58 | ewew | ok. |
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| 20:50.25 | SodaPhish | does anyone know an alternative to `tint2` that doesn't suck? And I'm not looking for KDE or GNOME panels, XFCE isn't out of the question, but it'd take a lot to convince me to go that route. |
| 20:50.27 | SodaPhish | anything? |
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| 20:50.54 | serden | helo |
| 20:51.02 | anonyme | hello |
| 20:51.17 | serden | what's up |
| 20:51.30 | annadane | serden, hi. do you have a debian support question? |
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| 20:51.49 | magnulu | ewew: worked like a charm now, and my guess is it will continue to do so |
| 20:51.51 | magnulu | thanks a low |
| 20:51.51 | serden | no thank you |
| 20:52.26 | serden | ı have not had any problem yet |
| 20:52.41 | magnulu | question is - why is not the auto-line there from the beginning? and why does this cause inconsistency (sometimes it worked and requested ip through dhcp, sometimes it didn't) |
| 20:53.18 | ewew | i not a developer. so i can not answer with exact explanation. |
| 20:54.32 | magnulu | I see.. I would think the auto-line should be there nevertheless :) |
| 20:54.35 | magnulu | thanks anyway |
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| 20:54.48 | ewew | no problem. thats why this channel exists. |
| 20:57.43 | chomwitt | cant insert acute accent in virtual console (on greek locale) |
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| 21:02.36 | random_numbers | So I've got two problems with stretch atm. For one, ServerKeyBits is no longer an option for sshd_config. Do I have to manually generate the keys? |
| 21:02.52 | random_numbers | For the second, dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration doesn't seem to have an effect. |
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| 21:04.51 | random_numbers | Why is that? |
| 21:05.37 | Vizva | <random_numbers> |
| 21:05.43 | Vizva | you miss a command |
| 21:05.51 | Vizva | after reconfigure |
| 21:06.01 | Vizva | there is another command to do |
| 21:06.07 | random_numbers | Oh? |
| 21:06.30 | Vizva | google for it |
| 21:06.38 | Vizva | if you dont find i can try too |
| 21:07.32 | Vizva | and to create the keys is very easy? |
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| 21:07.42 | Vizva | if you have a howto |
| 21:07.48 | Vizva | for example |
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| 21:07.59 | random_numbers | console-setup? |
| 21:08.23 | Vizva | i dont remember now i know only thats 2 commands |
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| 21:09.45 | Vizva | https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard |
| 21:09.48 | Vizva | here |
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| 21:10.31 | random_numbers | Why isn't such an important thing in the reference manual? |
| 21:10.57 | Vizva | service keyboard-setup restart |
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| 21:11.13 | Vizva | i didnt write it :) |
| 21:11.50 | random_numbers | Though it doesn't seem to have any effect. :/ |
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| 21:12.38 | Vizva | and the keys you can build? |
| 21:13.16 | random_numbers | I found that I do indeed need to modify the ssh keys manually. |
| 21:13.44 | Vizva | for openssh its the same? |
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| 21:13.55 | Vizva | for example /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -t dsa -f dsa_host_key -N "" |
| 21:14.17 | Vizva | for dsa_host_key file |
| 21:14.52 | Vizva | or /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -t ed25519 -f ed25519_host_key -N "" |
| 21:15.14 | Vizva | and /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -t rsa -f rsa_host_key -N "" |
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| 21:15.21 | Vizva | thats for one of my openssh |
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| 21:15.36 | random_numbers | Ah yeah. It's just with the version in jessie one could just delete the keys, change the server config and dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server and it'd done the right thing. |
| 21:15.40 | random_numbers | Now it needs to be done manually. |
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| 21:27.01 | NEOalquimista | Now it's outputting this: |
| 21:27.03 | NEOalquimista | E: The repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch-updates Release' does not have a Release file. |
| 21:27.05 | NEOalquimista | N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. |
| 21:27.07 | NEOalquimista | N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. |
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| 21:30.43 | somiaj | why do you have a debian-security added to that address? What is your sources.list file? |
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| 21:31.02 | somiaj | my security sources look like deb http://security.debian.org stretch/updates main contrib non-free |
| 21:31.47 | NEOalquimista | I just ticked the boxes through Software & Updates |
| 21:31.52 | NEOalquimista | I didn't edit the file myself |
| 21:32.05 | somiaj | what software is putting this sources.list in there? synamptic? |
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| 21:32.16 | somiaj | I am not familar with such sofftwre, I suggest just editing the sources.list file. |
| 21:32.29 | NEOalquimista | No, I don't use anything but Software & Updates, preinstalled with GNOME |
| 21:32.54 | NEOalquimista | But anyway, my other laptop is having the same, and it doesn't have any program that could change the file |
| 21:33.04 | NEOalquimista | I use the terminal to update |
| 21:33.09 | NEOalquimista | sudo apt update, nothing more |
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| 21:33.52 | NEOalquimista | It started after some updates today. |
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| 21:34.13 | NEOalquimista | A bunch of updates arrived, after that I couldn't install anything else, or update the cache |
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| 21:34.40 | dario_ | hi everybody |
| 21:34.42 | NEOalquimista | after installing them, I mean. |
| 21:34.43 | somiaj | I guess adding debian-security didn't affect me here, I just noticed that was different. |
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| 21:34.49 | somiaj | it could be the mirror s.d.o is redirecting you to. |
| 21:34.59 | NEOalquimista | I tried other mirrors, including ftp and US mirrors |
| 21:35.04 | NEOalquimista | it doesn't change |
| 21:35.25 | somiaj | maybe you have outdated keys on your system. I'm not that positive of the details here |
| 21:35.55 | NEOalquimista | https://paste.gnome.org/ps6bvrw9q |
| 21:36.13 | somiaj | oh yea, point release hit, let me upgrade my system. |
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| 21:36.27 | NEOalquimista | yep |
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| 21:36.39 | annadane | try to keep up :D |
| 21:36.40 | NEOalquimista | sorry, that paste went wrong |
| 21:37.08 | NEOalquimista | https://paste.gnome.org/pvcuhhac9 |
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| 21:37.43 | NEOalquimista | this is my sources.list |
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| 21:39.59 | NEOalquimista | debian-keyring is not installed. SHould it be? |
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| 21:41.16 | random_numbers | So I just found out that my keyboard program is simply xterm being non-compliant with standards. |
| 21:41.22 | random_numbers | Every other program works just as it ought to. |
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| 21:41.33 | random_numbers | s/keyboard program/keyboard problem/ |
| 21:41.43 | somiaj | NEOalquimista: the description seems to suggest that package isn't needed |
| 21:41.56 | somiaj | you may need the debian-archive-keyring though |
| 21:42.34 | somiaj | NEOalquimista: oh I think I see the differences, under the security mirror in your sources.list file, change stretch-updates to stretch/updates |
| 21:42.43 | somiaj | stretch-updates is for the stuff that is ready before a point release |
| 21:42.52 | NEOalquimista | ok, will try |
| 21:43.57 | NEOalquimista | that did the tric |
| 21:43.59 | NEOalquimista | trick |
| 21:44.08 | NEOalquimista | Is the order correct there? |
| 21:44.18 | NEOalquimista | anything else I might correct? |
| 21:44.20 | somiaj | what do you mean by order? |
| 21:44.29 | NEOalquimista | the other lines, i mean, not order |
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| 21:45.04 | NEOalquimista | because it changed from the default, so I might have messed with something |
| 21:45.37 | somiaj | NEOalquimista: order doens't matter, things look fine, though I would group the deb-src and deb for the security repo together, then you might have noticed that small difference in stretch/udates (for security) vs stretch-updates (for things that are ready for the point release) |
| 21:46.17 | NEOalquimista | yes, thanks for pointing that out |
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| 21:47.46 | NEOalquimista | stretch-updates, previously known as 'volatile', does the link below it need deb-src? |
| 21:48.00 | NEOalquimista | besides the deb |
| 21:48.03 | somiaj | NEOalquimista: you only need deb-src lines if you want access to source packages. |
| 21:48.10 | somiaj | if you don't use source packages, you don't need them. |
| 21:48.24 | NEOalquimista | right |
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| 21:53.57 | dario_ | Iknow it's not a correct thing to do, but I must ask anyhow : I'm trying to add a ppa repository (FreeCAD daily build) to a Debian testing (working well), I added it bt 'ubuntu way', but I get this error while trying apt-get update : NO_PUBKEY 005EAE8119BB5BCA; and it says the repository is not signed; is there a workaround? |
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| 21:57.02 | somiaj | dario_: maybe check --allow-unauthenticated in the man page. Best practice is to build the source package on debian, over installing a binary package if possible. |
| 21:57.17 | somiaj | (also you should make sure you get every possible lib you can from debian and not the ppa) |
| 21:57.45 | annadane | i was gonna link to https://wiki.debian.org/CreatePackageFromPPA |
| 21:57.45 | somiaj | https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt might have more info |
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| 22:06.13 | dario_ | somiaj, many thanks! |
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| 22:48.50 | coincoin169 | Hi, I want to confirm (or not) something about PXE: the pxelinux.0 (or whatever those are called) are downloaded by the booting client and executed on the client CPU? This means that if I have a different clients (ARM, PPC, x86, ...) I cannot have a single tftp server serving a PXE menu for choosing between different distro/architectures because even this PXE menu has to be run on the client CPU? Am i right or not? |
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| 22:51.37 | oerheks | yes you can https://www.howtoforge.com/setting-up-a-pxe-install-server-for-multiple-linux-distributions-on-debian-lenny-p4 |
| 22:51.59 | oerheks | the arch of the host would be preferrably 64 bit |
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| 22:52.39 | coincoin169 | oerheks: does this mean that the PXE menu code is executed by the network card? |
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| 22:54.05 | oerheks | depends what menu you use, that example is simply ascii |
| 22:55.33 | coincoin169 | yes but even going with simple ASCII this means that the network card executes some opcodes and that a PXE menu can be therefore independant of the client arch, ARM, PPC, x86...? |
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| 23:00.57 | oerheks | yes, transparant. |
| 23:01.27 | oerheks | though i never done this with arm, but should basicly be the same |
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| 23:41.14 | nnyby | hi, the debian wiki says the debian runlevel is defined in /etc/inittab - however, that file isn't there in debian buster/testing https://wiki.debian.org/RunLevel |
| 23:41.20 | nnyby | has this been changed since systemd? |
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| 23:42.10 | nvz | nnyby: yes systemd has changed everything |
| 23:42.32 | nnyby | okay, so we should update the wiki |
| 23:43.05 | nnyby | how are runlevels defined now? do they still exist? |
| 23:43.08 | nvz | nnyby: perhaps.. youd be surprised how hard it can be to find people to do small tasks like that |
| 23:43.35 | nnyby | well, i will do it right now soon as i figure out how to log in :P |
| 23:44.07 | nvz | nnyby: they definately still exist but I'm not certain how they are configured. I do know there is a systemctl default command that loads the default runlevel I'd have to dig around in the docs to figure it out |
| 23:44.22 | nnyby | alright, thanks |
| 23:45.09 | nvz | yeah well I wasnt implying I was going to.. just that I'd have to.. heh. I just woke up and I'm on my way to the bathroom :P |
| 23:46.39 | nnyby | hehe it's cool, i understand |
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| 23:57.15 | Tramp | nnyby: I think it depends upon where /lib/systemd/system/default.target points to. A mapping is given in "man runlevel" |
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| 23:59.27 | nvz | nnyby: yes there are set-default and get-default commands for systemctl and it seems that there is a systemd target for default, emergency, rescue, shutdown, reboot, etc |
