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| 00:00.41 | anonrate | Is there a way to copy the desktop layout I had on my old monitor (Just got a new one) to my new one? The old one used HDMI, this one uses DP. |
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| 00:05.02 | webert | hello |
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| 00:05.48 | webert | i'm trying apt-get install dovecot but an old version is being installed, even though the newest version is in the repo |
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| 00:06.11 | anonrate | There may be some packages that require the old one., |
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| 00:06.29 | anonrate | You can try to force it, but you may break things. |
| 00:06.33 | webert | i'm following this (changing stable to jessie) : https://wiki.dovecot.org/PrebuiltBinaries#preview |
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| 00:06.47 | webert | apt-cache madison shows the newer version |
| 00:06.54 | webert | but the older epoch is being isntalled |
| 00:07.12 | anonrate | try apt-get -fV install <PackageName> --no-install-recommends |
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| 00:07.32 | webert | i'll try |
| 00:07.35 | anonrate | f stands for fix stuff and the V shows the versions. |
| 00:07.44 | webert | cool |
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| 00:08.20 | webert | still the wrong version |
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| 00:08.44 | anonrate | You're able to put the version you want in the package name. I just don't rememebr how. Let me look in the man. |
| 00:08.53 | webert | look http://paste.debian.net/990117/ |
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| 00:09.23 | webert | as far as i remeber it would be apt-get install package=version |
| 00:09.38 | webert | but this is a automated build so I just wanted to get the latest version |
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| 00:10.39 | anonrate | Try apt-get -fV upgrade --no-install-recommends There says ther is 32 not upgraded. |
| 00:11.21 | anonrate | You don't have to do the --no-install-recommends, I just do it because I never want the extra crap. Also, I usually do dist-upgrade but I'm sure people would say no don't do that. Lol. |
| 00:11.36 | webert | hahaha it's OK |
| 00:11.43 | webert | it's a docker image so whatever |
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| 00:12.13 | anonrate | Are you new to linux? |
| 00:12.23 | Rumpled | is this the only package it's acting this way? |
| 00:12.39 | webert | not really new to linux, this thing is just bugging me |
| 00:12.51 | webert | it seems so. actually this is the only thing I need to install |
| 00:13.19 | Rumpled | ran update? |
| 00:13.25 | anonrate | Was just aboutt o say that. |
| 00:13.32 | webert | yes I did |
| 00:13.33 | anonrate | That's why I asked if he was new. |
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| 00:14.10 | webert | even after doing update/upgrade/ it's still trying to isntall Inst dovecot-core (1:2.2.13-12~deb8u3 Debian:8.9/oldstable, Debian-Security:8/oldstable [amd64]) |
| 00:14.22 | webert | but... |
| 00:14.22 | webert | root@2b30023ff417:/# apt-cache madison dovecot-core |
| 00:14.23 | webert | dovecot-core | 2:2.2.32-1~auto+29 | http://xi.dovecot.fi/debian/ jessie-auto/dovecot-2.2/main amd64 Packages |
| 00:14.23 | webert | dovecot-core | 2:2.2.32-1~auto+28 | http://xi.dovecot.fi/debian/ jessie-auto/dovecot-2.2/main amd64 Packages |
| 00:14.23 | webert | dovecot-core | 2:2.2.32-1~auto+27 | http://xi.dovecot.fi/debian/ jessie-auto/dovecot-2.2/main amd64 Packages |
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| 00:14.49 | webert | lol |
| 00:14.50 | anonrate | I see what he means now. |
| 00:14.53 | webert | got kicked |
| 00:15.05 | webert | sorry for the many lines but it was easier to show you |
| 00:15.21 | anonrate | I read the thing. Lol. Didn't see that it was trying to get from an older release. |
| 00:15.47 | somiaj | please use paste.debian.net |
| 00:16.10 | webert | sorry somiaj, i was just lazy |
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| 00:16.22 | somiaj | webert: can you put the output of apt-cache policy dovecot-core at paste.debian.net |
| 00:16.30 | webert | yes, sure |
| 00:17.08 | webert | it's right here somiaj http://paste.debian.net/990118/ |
| 00:17.45 | anonrate | 500... |
| 00:18.14 | webert | I don't know what that means |
| 00:18.19 | somiaj | your unoffical dovecot source is pinned at one, so it will never be used by default, usea -t jessie-auto/dovecot-2.2 to increase the pinning to install those unoffical packages. |
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| 00:18.36 | somiaj | webert: 500 vs 1, the 500 wins, despite the 1 having the higher epoch |
| 00:18.43 | anonrate | I was going to say that (No I wasn't) |
| 00:18.46 | webert | Oh right, so that's the priority |
| 00:18.51 | webert | Hahaha ^ |
| 00:19.48 | webert | should I use that -t in sources.list ? |
| 00:19.49 | anonrate | The repo security.debiar.org jessie/updates main is what I saw. |
| 00:20.05 | anonrate | There is a white space |
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| 00:20.34 | DJDan | i managed to sshfs mount in debian the file partition from LEDE to /mnt/routertemp in a Debian vbox. Anyone know how using extdelete or something else to recover the files from /mnt/routertemp/root locally? |
| 00:21.23 | somiaj | I don't belive so, I think you need access to the filesystem not just the files which is all sshfs might give you over fuse. |
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| 00:22.08 | somiaj | i.e. sshfs is creating a fake file system over fuse and I doubt you have access to the actual ext file system needed for extdelete |
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| 00:22.56 | DJDan | oh.. how do i try anyway? do u have any other suggestions to undelete? |
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| 00:23.33 | anonrate | Oh crap... I just realised everything broke after pluging in the new monitor. (Which is why I'm here, it's just no I have more issues now that could be fixed if I redid everything but why do that when it's already there just in the wrong place?) |
| 00:23.43 | webert | somiaj, with apt-get -t jessie-auto/dovecot-2.2 install dovecot-core I got "E: The value 'jessie-auto/dovecot-2.2' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources" |
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| 00:23.56 | anonrate | I knew it. |
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| 00:26.27 | somiaj | webert: I must have stated teh release wrong, I don't know what this unoffical repo is calling things. it is also not really supported here. |
| 00:26.58 | DJDan | somiaj: does photorec recover .py and .sh files |
| 00:27.01 | anonrate | Correct me if I'm wrong somiaj , but does the format of his urls in his source list look wrong to you? |
| 00:27.14 | anonrate | He posted a link previously. |
| 00:28.12 | somiaj | anonrate: I didn't see the sources.list only saw the apt-cache policy output. But things look okay from that. |
| 00:28.29 | anonrate | https://paste.debian.net/990118/ |
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| 00:28.48 | anonrate | I would have done like one of those quote things but I don't know how to do that with WeeChat. |
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| 00:29.15 | somiaj | DJDan: I don't really know. I would think any text file could be recovered, which .py and .sh will both fall into. |
| 00:29.56 | webert | somiaj, it worked with just -t jessie-auto |
| 00:29.59 | webert | dpkg -l | grep dovecot |
| 00:29.59 | dpkg | No packages found matching | grep dovecot |
| 00:29.59 | webert | ii dovecot-core 2:2.2.32-1~auto+29 amd64 secure POP3/IMAP server - core files |
| 00:30.14 | somiaj | anonrate: I'm unsure what you are getting at, I don't see anythign wrong in his policy output. |
| 00:30.18 | DJDan | somiaj: well im just working out how to do this.. my router is LEDE linux i need to recover all .py and .sh scripts within /root |
| 00:30.36 | anonrate | I saw a white space in the last two lines which is why I thought maybe that's why he was getting the itnernal sever errror. |
| 00:30.41 | webert | the sources list seems OK to me, as I'm used to see it that way with other software |
| 00:30.51 | anonrate | Or is the 500 not a status code? |
| 00:31.21 | webert | according to somiaj it's just a priority value |
| 00:31.29 | webert | higher > lower |
| 00:31.33 | somiaj | DJDan: usually they suggest when doing backup you mount the file system readonly, so it can't change. Then create an image copy of the file system with dd, and then do the recovery on the backup, which you can copy to another machine |
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| 00:31.51 | anonrate | Oh. I didn't see that message. Ma bad. |
| 00:32.34 | webert | hehe |
| 00:32.51 | DJDan | somiaj: i have a .img file but im unable to mount it.. at least not on windows or osx... the image keeps saying ubifs errors... the router is mipsel based |
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| 00:32.53 | webert | but it seems to work with -t jessie-auto. i'll test it with the remaining packages |
| 00:33.34 | somiaj | DJDan: I think when recovering you need to work ont he image file directly, not the mounted files. |
| 00:33.57 | somiaj | DJDan: are you sure you imaged the correct thing and have the image of the ext? file system and not say the image of the lvm image, or something like that. |
| 00:34.24 | DJDan | well i dd the file to router.img .. i assume its ok as i can hexedit it and it shows some of the text.. but i want to recover rather then hex recover |
| 00:34.34 | somiaj | what 'file'? |
| 00:34.44 | DJDan | router.img |
| 00:34.52 | DJDan | the dd image |
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| 00:35.28 | whoami | resek gung |
| 00:35.32 | Anom | ampun bos |
| 00:35.37 | whoami | tarong a? |
| 00:35.40 | Anom | ayo |
| 00:35.43 | whoami | cok i |
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| 00:36.07 | anonrate | Someone do the honnors? |
| 00:36.13 | DJDan | somiaj: dd if=/dev/ubi0_1 bs=512 i did that to router.img |
| 00:36.32 | whoami | B A C O D |
| 00:36.37 | Anom | anonrate : you fucking bullshit |
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| 00:37.16 | webert | what the |
| 00:37.17 | anonrate | Anyone else biting their tounge? |
| 00:37.36 | somiaj | DJDan: I don't know mips, so unsure what ubi0_1 would be, but if this is the actual partition that containst he file system then you should be fine. |
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| 00:37.45 | whoami | webert: ... fuck |
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| 00:38.04 | DJDan | somiaj: yeah, when i run 'hexedit' i can see bits of text of my python file within it... |
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| 00:38.57 | DJDan | Flash: 128meg, Ram 256meg ... file is only 115meg as the file system is about 68% free |
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| 00:39.34 | anonrate | Was about to say. Lol. It's all good. |
| 00:39.47 | somiaj | DJDan: I don't know that much about file recovery, just the very basics. |
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| 00:49.42 | anonrate | 3 questions. Is there a way to set the ppi for x? And is there a way to set vSync other than using a module in KDE? (That way don't work) |
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| 00:50.15 | anonrate | Oh yea I said 3. HOw would I go about to set the color depth to 30bit? |
| 00:50.27 | somiaj | I think the answer across the board is basically no. |
| 00:50.53 | somiaj | by ppi do you mean font dpi, ppi is basically screen size/resolution issue, not really a setting. |
| 00:51.24 | anonrate | ppi I mean dpi, but dpi should really say ppi. |
| 00:51.29 | webert | hey somiaj , anonrate, i'm out now. I owe you guys a beer. Thanks very much for the help through |
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| 00:51.56 | anonrate | There is the option xrandr --dpi but I would have to set that every boot. Cya mang. |
| 00:52.33 | anonrate | Oohh. I can change it. I see the things on the help thing for the x. (Got excited.) |
| 00:52.37 | somiaj | You use to be able to have more control over the dpi, but I think recent changes in xorg try to fix this at 96, and the old methods of changing it don't really work. Modern desktops like gnome use 'font scaling' over changing the dpi. I use to use "Xft.dpi: 96" in my Xresources, but values other than 96 don't seem to work anymore if I recall correctly. |
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| 00:53.15 | somiaj | anonrate: many xrandr options you can configure in an xorg.conf.d snippit if you need, though I belive there is somethign special with dpi. Now it might only be a gnome/kde thing, but I think xorg got affected as well. |
| 00:53.20 | anonrate | That is exaclty what I read. There use to be a force option, but like you said. That don't work anymore. |
| 00:54.02 | anonrate | There is a xrandr option for dpi, would that be the same thing as if I just changed the font dpi in the font module of kde? |
| 00:54.05 | somiaj | I just realize sometime during stretch being testing this changed on me and I had to reset my dpi setting to 96. I never did look how to change it as I didn't really need to after that on my large screen like I use to. |
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| 00:54.35 | somiaj | anonrate: i'm unsure, depends on how kde handels thing. xrandr will change the RandR settings of the xorg server, while kde may do something else. |
| 00:54.48 | somiaj | also with waylend comming into play, if using waylend this information may not be correct. |
| 00:54.58 | somiaj | (though unsure if kde is using waylend like gnome does) |
| 00:55.04 | anonrate | I want to use wayland so bad. I can't wait for it. Lol. |
| 00:55.16 | anonrate | They have shit support for it. |
| 00:55.18 | anonrate | crap* |
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| 00:55.48 | anonrate | I literlaly had to make my own font so i wasn't looking at my screen as if I was looking through a cherio. |
| 00:55.59 | somiaj | I am one who is just fine with xorg, but then again I'm using a window manager that is nicely built using xlib and odn't want to change. |
| 00:56.46 | anonrate | I'm using whatever kde offers. Buggyish but pretty...ish. |
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| 00:57.06 | somiaj | I'm still using fvwm, been my window manager for over 10 years, and it has changed very little. I like it. |
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| 00:58.12 | anonrate | fvwm, I don't believe I have heard of that one. Is it for older systems or something? |
| 00:58.34 | anonrate | (Not saying your system is old. Lol) |
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| 00:59.57 | somiaj | anonrate: fvwm dates back to one of the original window managers (it was a fork of twm back in 1993). fvwm is just a very solid long lasting wm that still works fine on modern xorg. |
| 01:00.06 | anonrate | I've ever really been good at the whole configure xorg directory thing. I can't quite comprehend what each section does. The whole monitor, screen, display thing confuses me. |
| 01:00.55 | somiaj | I like it because it gives you a configuration syntax that lets you configure almost every aspect of the wm. But it does lack a lot of modern features people expect in their wm and has had very little development (only mataince and bug fixes) for the last 5 years. As such it still done'st fully support RandR. |
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| 01:01.24 | somiaj | anonrate: luckly with modern xorg, you only have to look up the syntax for the section you want to change from the defaults. You don't need a full config file anymore. |
| 01:01.37 | anonrate | I know. You make sep files and stuff like that. |
| 01:03.51 | anonrate | Like right now I see some options that I want to set, but would have no ideao how to do so and would probably try for like a week to do, then fail. I think the main issue was getting the correct names for the driver, identifier etc.. Tried hwinfo, but that didn't help.. I could have just been looking for the wrong thing though. |
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| 01:07.51 | somiaj | anonrate: well just ask when you have an option you want to set. Users her like to help. |
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| 01:10.07 | david3 | How do I add an application icon to the gnome menu for a binary I compiled? |
| 01:10.09 | anonrate | Well first I would like to atleast get my desktop layout back to how it was. But since I changed screens and the new screen uses DP, even though the main screen didn't change, using DP from HDMI put stuff out of wack. So now it wont show open windows on the correct window. I could have fixed it if I just re added all the widgets, but here I am... Figuring it out the hardway. |
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| 01:10.51 | anonrate | I found the file that lists everything. I'm pretty sure I just need to change the "LastScreen" options. I just don't know what screen nmber is what. |
| 01:10.53 | somiaj | david3: you will need to create a .desktop file for it and place it somehwere in $HOME/, I think $HOME/.local/share/applications |
| 01:11.07 | david3 | somiaj: Ok, thank you. |
| 01:11.31 | somiaj | david3: everything should follow the freedestkop.org standards you can look up |
| 01:12.46 | somiaj | anonrate: RandR doens't really use screen numbers anymore, 'xrandr -q' should list the screens, but they are usually things like DVI-1 DVI-2 and stuff like that |
| 01:13.05 | somiaj | anonrate: I'm unsrue if kde fully supports this or is using a more old Xinemeria style of numbering, in this case start at 0. |
| 01:13.26 | anonrate | I know that. but the plasma-blabla-appletsrc uses numbers. Lol |
| 01:13.39 | anonrate | I'm not using Xinermeia |
| 01:14.14 | somiaj | but randr has Xinermeia compadability, so the numbering system I belive is still valid, 0 for primary, then 1, 2, 3, etc |
| 01:14.16 | anonrate | Screen connectors. Here we go. Lets change stuff and see what happens. |
| 01:14.49 | somiaj | you can also try stuff like this, 'DISPLAY=:0.1 xterm' and see what screen it opens on. |
| 01:15.12 | somiaj | though some of my knolwedge is outdated and I rarely use multiple monintors (only to put my laptop on an overhead) |
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| 01:15.58 | anonrate | Both displays are working fine, it's just that the layout is gone. Wallapper changed. widget dipped. And I'm pretty sure Xinermia is outdated and not recommend to be used. |
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| 01:18.28 | anonrate | Now just gotta figure out how to refresh the plasmashell. |
| 01:21.41 | anonrate | Did i t. Lol. |
| 01:22.43 | somiaj | anonrate: I'm not suggesting using Xinermia, just stating that some of its conventions (like screen numbers) are still supported with xrandr. |
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| 01:24.01 | anonrate | How can I check if vsyn is actually on or not? Because I'm unsure as Chrome tears like crazy, but Chromium doesn't. I know the conventions are the same in some ways, I just wanted to see what was assigned to what, instead of just guessing. THat way I know for future uses. |
| 01:24.43 | anonrate | Damn, I gotta use the screen section thing. |
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| 01:46.13 | emery | Does the Debian DVD have the BCM firmware included (wireless adapter)? |
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| 01:47.06 | emery | or do I need to use the non-free repos after install/ |
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| 02:31.49 | veek | how do you begin to troubleshoot X server freezing and hard reboot |
| 02:32.04 | veek | the windows disappeared but bgn was set |
| 02:32.18 | veek | so wm was not functional |
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| 02:32.54 | anonrate | Shit+Alt+F1 allows sends you to the first tty |
| 02:33.01 | anonrate | Shift* |
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| 02:33.15 | anonrate | That made sense... |
| 02:33.51 | anonrate | If you press it now, then press Alt + F7, you'll see what I mean. |
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| 02:35.39 | anonrate | Once you're there, there may be some information logged even before you log in. You may think that it's frozen beacuse it doesn't say login at the bottom, but it says it somehwere near the top, it's just that stuff was printed over it. Just login as you normally would. ie pretend that mumbo jumbo isn't there. |
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| 03:06.26 | veek | anonrate, i was in X when this happened - moved the mouse over hexchat and it hung - just the x bgn was visible |
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| 03:06.41 | veek | Ctrl-Alt-F1 didn't work |
| 03:06.50 | veek | just wondering how to debug such issues |
| 03:07.03 | veek | i've enabled coredump |
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| 03:07.16 | veek | what else |
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| 03:43.53 | hanasaki | what would cause this? "named[26499]: host unreachable resolving 'myworkdayjobs.com/AAAA/IN': 8.8.8.8#53" |
| 03:47.27 | eck | you need an ipv6 record homie |
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| 03:50.23 | wpostma | I updated the LightDM configuration wiki page because it seemed wrong (update-alternatives doesn't work in debian 9). https://wiki.debian.org/LightDM |
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| 03:52.40 | wpostma | I haven't got a debian 8 system handy to test with but if anyone thinks I borked the page, let me know. |
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| 03:55.24 | anonrate | Shift+Alt+F1 veek |
| 03:55.28 | anonrate | SOrry I took so long to reply. |
| 03:56.23 | veek | anonrate, does nothing on my box |
| 03:56.30 | veek | i use ctrl |
| 03:56.49 | anonrate | Have you tried shift+alt though? |
| 03:57.02 | veek | yes |
| 03:57.04 | anonrate | or ctrl + Shift? |
| 03:57.21 | veek | nope - doesn't work |
| 03:57.29 | anonrate | What about just alt + f1? |
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| 03:58.55 | veek | that changes screen's (Virtual desktop) in any case none of this answers the Q - how do you log data before a freeze |
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| 03:59.31 | anonrate | YOu can check the log if that helps. Lol. The location is.. (Let me check.) |
| 04:00.23 | anonrate | Logs are located in /var/log for me. |
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| 04:01.08 | anonrate | There may be a file called Xorg.0.log |
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| 05:30.31 | suppo | anyone having mouse lags on debian stretch? |
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| 05:30.49 | suppo | I've been trying fixing this but at no avail... |
| 05:31.40 | suppo | only on wireless mouse |
| 05:32.06 | suppo | trackpad or wired mouse works perfectly |
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| 05:35.21 | suppo | having the same problem on 3 different mouse |
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| 06:02.18 | binary106 | hi, i'm trying to run cron inside a debian:jessie docker container but nothing is happening. I have a chmod644 file in /etc/cron.d with username field, and trying cron -f -L 15 but no output |
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| 06:08.13 | AlexLikeRock_ | hi |
| 06:08.19 | AlexLikeRock_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.25 | AlexLikeRock_ | LC_ALL = "es_es.utf8F-8", |
| 06:08.47 | AlexLikeRock_ | i try with dpkg-reconfigure locales , and not work |
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| 06:09.04 | dionysus69 | what is a good solution for live home partition backups when connected and when disconnected quickly to be able to catch up based on differences, something like rsync with encryption support |
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| 06:11.04 | binary106 | cant you rsync over ssh |
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| 06:12.42 | dionysus69 | hmm I guess that's an option :D |
| 06:13.10 | dionysus69 | but what about external hdd backups |
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| 06:19.50 | htt | hi I have a problem, I noticed that my wireless mouse keeps freezing if I have a wifi connection |
| 06:20.03 | htt | this happens on a fresh debian 9 installation |
| 06:20.18 | htt | do you have any idea how to solve this? |
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| 06:20.36 | htt | as long as I switch to ethernet connection, no more freezes |
| 06:20.40 | htt | pretty annoying |
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| 06:21.49 | annadane | htt, i'm not sure but you might have missing firmware? check dmesg | grep firmware |
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| 06:22.53 | htt | hi annadane, thanks for answering. this is what i get |
| 06:22.57 | htt | [ 1.689925] psmouse serio1: trackpoint: IBM TrackPoint firmware: 0x0e, buttons: 3/3 |
| 06:23.21 | annadane | htt, well if that's the only message you get then it's not a missing firmware problem |
| 06:23.45 | annadane | i guess, what model of mouse do you have? this may or may not be a known issue |
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| 06:24.14 | htt | this happens on 3 different wireless mouse I have home! |
| 06:24.18 | annadane | oh |
| 06:24.36 | htt | so it's not mouse-specific issue |
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| 06:26.31 | htt | trackpoint and wired mouse are ok |
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| 06:26.43 | htt | only the wireless one are giving problems |
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| 06:31.23 | htt | anyone any ideas? |
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| 06:58.29 | xilok | ERROR: Please run 'nvidia-installer --uninstall' manually or delete it. dpkg: error processing package nvidia-installer-cleanup (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 06:58.37 | xilok | How do i delete that? |
| 06:59.01 | xilok | i cant run apt-get , I fixed the nvidia drivers but that unintall is keeping me from doing apt-get |
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| 07:01.49 | BenNZ | xilok: try nvidia-installer --uninstall |
| 07:03.15 | xilok | no that runs the installer |
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| 07:03.55 | xilok | welp |
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| 07:04.08 | xilok | i uninstalled it. w/e maybe it will work |
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| 07:33.25 | dupondje | mmm Just upgraded to Debizan 9.2, and reboot hangs on 'Loading initial ramdisk' ... :x |
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| 07:34.18 | dexta | gm |
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| 07:35.57 | dupondje | how to debug that ofc :) |
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| 07:37.14 | mistralol | dupondje: well after the ramdisk is meant to tbe the kernel :) |
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| 07:38.29 | dupondje | 4.9.0-3-amd64 boots, 4.9.0-4-amd64 not ... |
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| 07:39.08 | mistralol | so you can still boot the old kernel? |
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| 07:39.42 | dupondje | mistralol: yep |
| 07:39.54 | mistralol | dupondje: hum.... Tried with kexec to the new kernel? |
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| 07:43.40 | dupondje | did some update-initramfs, lets see if that changes anything. Then i'll try kexec (never did that before, but doesn't seem to be hard ;)) |
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| 07:46.36 | dupondje | mistralol: it boots now ... :x |
| 07:46.40 | dupondje | strange |
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| 07:58.44 | rdz | hey all. i would like to configure timezone with a script without interaction... |
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| 07:59.06 | rdz | how can i tell dpkg-reconfigure what values should be pre-selected? |
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| 08:00.04 | babilen | rdz: debconf-set-selections |
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| 08:00.19 | rdz | babilen, thanks |
| 08:00.29 | babilen | But I'd do it in the preseed file during installation |
| 08:01.16 | rdz | i need to do it after the installation |
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| 08:01.32 | babilen | In fact debconf-set-selection probably won't help alone, but you'd have to set /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime manually |
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| 08:02.19 | rdz | hm... that doesn't help |
| 08:02.44 | rdz | dpkg-reconfigure tzdata does different things on Debian <= 8 and Debian 9 |
| 08:03.28 | rdz | on Debian <= 8 it converts the symlink /etc/localtime to a hard copy, while it stays a symlink on Debian 9 |
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| 08:03.50 | rdz | so it turns out managing timezone on debian systems with ansible is quite hard |
| 08:04.04 | babilen | So, that is what you are after |
| 08:04.09 | rdz | yes |
| 08:04.25 | rdz | hm.. there is a module.. |
| 08:04.32 | babilen | Why don't you use the module? |
| 08:04.34 | rdz | i just use this |
| 08:04.39 | rdz | you're absolutely right |
| 08:04.58 | rdz | babilen, thanks.. |
| 08:06.56 | babilen | rdz: You might want to look into timedatectl also, but if all you want is to use this from Ansible then use http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/timezone_module.html |
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| 08:07.43 | rdz | babilen, yeah.. i'm trying the ansible module now...... somehow i missed that but would have used it from the beginning |
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| 08:11.07 | rdz | ah, the module exists only since 2.2... that's why i was trying to do it by alternative ways back then.... and those ways broke in debian 9 |
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| 08:12.31 | jelly | ,v ansible |
| 08:12.32 | judd | Package: ansible on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 1.7.2+dfsg-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.7.2+dfsg-2; jessie-backports: 2.2.1.0-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 2.2.1.0-2; stretch-backports: 2.3.1.0+dfsg-2~bpo9+1; buster: 2.3.2.0+dfsg-1; sid: 2.4.0.0+dfsg-1 |
| 08:12.40 | sally_ | What's the best/easiest way to virtualize a remote windows desktop on a Debian VPS? |
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| 08:12.47 | jelly | where's my 2.4 backport!?!?!?!? |
| 08:13.02 | jelly | dpkg: why is ansible not in testing |
| 08:13.02 | dpkg | ansible is not in testing for the reasons listed in https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=ansible |
| 08:13.06 | annadane | jelly, in the fridge |
| 08:13.20 | jelly | > Too young, only 4 of 5 days old # oh |
| 08:13.28 | jelly | deflates |
| 08:13.59 | jelly | ,checkbackport ansible --fromrelease sid --torelease jessie |
| 08:14.00 | judd | Backporting package ansible in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
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| 08:38.16 | APearce | Anyone here speaks German and is willing to help me translate a 2 liner? |
| 08:38.39 | SwedeMike | APearce: google translate not good enough? |
| 08:38.48 | APearce | Unfortunately not :( |
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| 08:39.23 | APearce | Google translate is "ok" at translating from German to English (though it has some serious flaws, like it translated "Abholung" into "Delivery date") |
| 08:39.30 | APearce | but it's seriously bad at doing from English to German |
| 08:39.37 | APearce | which I would have actually thought is easier but ... |
| 08:40.08 | annadane | APearce, there's a german channel, whether or not they speak german and english is another question |
| 08:40.10 | annadane | !de |
| 08:40.10 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 08:40.27 | APearce | I'll give it a try, thx |
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| 08:42.46 | deadrom | hi. |
| 08:42.47 | likcoras | Hi, I'm seeing some errors pop up in a stretch system even though the exact same code works just fine on my jessie system. Here: https://paste.debian.net/990141/ |
| 08:43.17 | likcoras | I think likc.me is set up correctly, checked with ssllabs and firefox, both didn't show any critical errors |
| 08:43.57 | deadrom | if I want to simulate the network load of say 20 clients X-forwarding to one server, will running 20 instances of program x from the same client/login give me the same result? |
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| 08:46.58 | WhereIsT1inkey | can I cretate channel ##debian-forever ? I mean can I use word "debian" in my channel's name ? |
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| 08:49.02 | annadane | WhereIsT1inkey, it's not against the rules |
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| 08:49.13 | sally_ | WhereIsT1inkey: Join debian-penis-tattoo |
| 08:49.24 | WhereIsT1inkey | no |
| 08:49.41 | sally_ | Ok then. |
| 08:50.08 | WhereIsT1inkey | I have one penis allready and I don't need tattoo |
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| 08:51.04 | sally_ | But wouldn't you like some CLI commands indellibly printed on there? |
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| 08:51.32 | WhereIsT1inkey | took me 2 seconds to understand the sentence |
| 08:52.23 | babilen | Would you mind continuing this elsewhere? |
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| 08:52.48 | WhereIsT1inkey | yes, I do mind it, I have no desire to continue it |
| 08:53.24 | babilen | WhereIsT1inkey: There is a general understanding that #debian-* channels are under the control of Debian or, at least, strongly related to it |
| 08:53.52 | WhereIsT1inkey | so I can't have #debian-forever ? |
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| 08:54.01 | WhereIsT1inkey | ##debian-forever |
| 08:55.11 | annadane | babilen, i did not know that, sorry |
| 08:55.12 | jelly | WhereIsT1inkey: you, or network staff, might get a request to stop using that trade mark if you did not ask the project for permission |
| 08:55.34 | jelly | so in general it's easier to just avoid it |
| 08:55.52 | WhereIsT1inkey | project for permission ? over IRC or email ? |
| 08:56.10 | alexusono1 | if you align the swirl tattoo correctly it will look like a top |
| 08:56.45 | sally_ | alexusono1: That's the spirit! |
| 08:56.52 | jelly | WhereIsT1inkey: email is nicer, best ask #debian-legal over on OFTC what the right way would be |
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| 08:57.54 | jelly | WhereIsT1inkey: are you already a debian developer or maintainer? |
| 08:58.02 | WhereIsT1inkey | no |
| 08:58.03 | likcoras | WhereIsT1inkey: also https://www.debian.org/trademark |
| 08:58.17 | WhereIsT1inkey | I though debian is all about freedom |
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| 08:59.10 | petn-randall | WhereIsT1inkey: It's not about misleading use of the logos/names/trademarks, though. |
| 08:59.17 | jelly | WhereIsT1inkey: maybe get involved with the project first for a year or so |
| 08:59.17 | misirk85 | hey |
| 08:59.42 | petn-randall | WhereIsT1inkey: If you create a Debian derivative you still have to give it a different name to avoid conflicts. |
| 08:59.56 | WhereIsT1inkey | "get involved", no, not writing any man pages |
| 09:01.14 | misirk85 | i need help i bought wifi card tp-link TL-WN722N v2 and i try connect to usb port, unfortunately it not working, on win10 is good but on stretch isnt;/ |
| 09:01.15 | jelly | WhereIsT1inkey: then it doesn't make a lot of sense for Debian to allow you use of trademarks, does it |
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| 09:01.49 | misirk85 | i install https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc and still not recognize usb card |
| 09:02.33 | annadane | misirk85, did you reboot |
| 09:02.33 | WhereIsT1inkey | misirk85: try #wireless and #linux-wireless |
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| 09:02.51 | annadane | WhereIsT1inkey, i think that question is fine in this channel |
| 09:02.57 | misirk85 | yes reboot after install drivers |
| 09:03.01 | annadane | okay |
| 09:03.04 | misirk85 | ok thankyou |
| 09:03.12 | WhereIsT1inkey | misirk85: what does iwconfig shows ? |
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| 09:03.54 | WhereIsT1inkey | misirk85: if you loaded driver properly it should add new interface |
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| 09:04.28 | misirk85 | but lsusb dont recognize dvice |
| 09:05.51 | jelly | misirk85: if the device isn't visible in lsusb at all but visible when the same machine is booted into win10, that sounds like a usb controller driver issue |
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| 09:08.00 | misirk85 | mobo optiplex 9020 |
| 09:08.20 | WhereIsT1inkey | misirk85: try some liveCD if it can recognize USB wifi dongle |
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| 09:08.29 | WhereIsT1inkey | if it can't that is the hardware problem |
| 09:08.43 | WhereIsT1inkey | I mean hardware support problem |
| 09:08.57 | WhereIsT1inkey | windows support everything nowadays |
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| 09:10.27 | misirk85 | any specyfic dstro to use? |
| 09:10.36 | misirk85 | specific* |
| 09:10.46 | annadane | well, first of all |
| 09:10.47 | WhereIsT1inkey | knoppix of course |
| 09:11.03 | annadane | are we sure that you needed atheros for the mobo optiplex? |
| 09:11.35 | annadane | a quick search on https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware gives no joy |
| 09:11.58 | WhereIsT1inkey | I have tp-link TL-WN722N and I use ath9k_htc |
| 09:12.39 | annadane | i don't really know the answer to this but i wonder, does "dmesg | grep firmware" as root give you anything? paste.debian.net |
| 09:13.13 | WhereIsT1inkey | misirk85: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/ath9k_htc |
| 09:13.14 | WhereIsT1inkey | misirk85: are you hacking wireless networks ? |
| 09:13.50 | annadane | nobody's "hacking" anything. stop it. |
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| 09:13.55 | misirk85 | yeah, i am total newbie in debian and 1000% h@XXi0r :P |
| 09:14.24 | WhereIsT1inkey | "hacking" means "tweaking" |
| 09:14.34 | annadane | whatever. |
| 09:14.37 | misirk85 | :D |
| 09:14.40 | misirk85 | wait |
| 09:14.43 | annadane | but yeah, check out if there's any missing firmware |
| 09:15.06 | WhereIsT1inkey | these teenagers nowadays compeletely oblivious about original meaning for a word "hack" |
| 09:15.27 | misirk85 | true :) |
| 09:15.40 | misirk85 | i have 25 but from PL :) |
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| 09:16.22 | misirk85 | we have network 20 years later then rest :P |
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| 09:16.46 | petn-randall | WhereIsT1inkey: These millenials nowadays are completely oblivious about the original meaning of the word "hack". Back in my days we'd swing an axe until the tree came down. |
| 09:16.53 | opaI | å Hello å |
| 09:16.54 | misirk85 | ok dmesg } grep firmware put 2 errors |
| 09:16.57 | proxy85 | Does redhat profession customer support provide a dedicated agent to their customer? |
| 09:17.16 | annadane | misirk85, what are they? post to paste.debian.net |
| 09:17.24 | annadane | misirk85, in fact, post the entire output of it |
| 09:17.39 | annadane | proxy85, this is not a red hat channel |
| 09:17.39 | misirk85 | ok i must copy it from second pc ;/ wait please:) |
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| 09:17.57 | WhereIsT1inkey | misirk85: dmesg | curl -F sprunge="<${1:--}" http://sprunge.us |
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| 09:18.46 | misirk85 | on optiplex i dont have network :/ |
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| 09:19.20 | not-opal | å I am not opal å |
| 09:19.25 | WhereIsT1inkey | not-opal: anusbleach [~opal@199.36.221.150] has quit [K-Lined] |
| 09:19.33 | not-opal | å I just imitate him å |
| 09:19.38 | WhereIsT1inkey | something is coming |
| 09:19.48 | annadane | not-opal, not appropriate. take it to #debian-offtopic |
| 09:19.55 | not-opal | that wasnt opal it was opaI |
| 09:20.05 | not-opal | a capital i, not lowercase L |
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| 09:20.10 | WhereIsT1inkey | yes, but ip is similar |
| 09:20.13 | not-opal | very easy to impersonate someone that way |
| 09:20.17 | not-opal | yes, IP similar to mine |
| 09:20.18 | annadane | not appropriate here. take it to another channel please. |
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| 09:20.34 | not-opal | okay fine annadane dont get your panties in a bunch over it |
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| 09:21.18 | annadane | misirk85, if you don't have a GUI with which to paste you can also use termbin |
| 09:21.20 | annadane | !termbin |
| 09:21.20 | dpkg | termbin is probably you can paste to termbin.com from terminal via: cat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 09:21.33 | annadane | so dmesg | grep firmware | nc termbin.com 9999 |
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| 09:22.56 | misirk85 | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/68c6431a/ |
| 09:23.15 | not-opal | the best thing about unicode is å |
| 09:23.19 | WhereIsT1inkey | if its not sprunge I'm not looking |
| 09:23.37 | WhereIsT1inkey | something is coming |
| 09:23.40 | annadane | misirk85, try installing firmware-realtek |
| 09:23.47 | annadane | you'll need contrib and non-free in your sources list |
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| 09:24.02 | not-opal | å where are the hot girls å |
| 09:24.15 | misirk85 | i dont have network on this machine, i download use stick and use dpkg :) |
| 09:24.24 | bazhang | WhereIsT1inkey, is that repeating offtopic commentary really needed |
| 09:24.45 | WhereIsT1inkey | can someone get rid of not-opal and bazhang ? |
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| 09:24.57 | WhereIsT1inkey | they are intimidating |
| 09:25.18 | not-opal | å just get rid of bazhang then the nonsense will end å |
| 09:25.21 | annadane | misirk85, okay, so you can probably download the .deb and dpkg -i it |
| 09:25.24 | annadane | one second |
| 09:25.29 | misirk85 | yes :) |
| 09:25.43 | not-opal | å you can all kiss my ass å |
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| 09:25.52 | niko | not-opal: enough |
| 09:25.57 | annadane | (i don't do this often enough to know how to do it without looking it up...) |
| 09:26.01 | annadane | (sorry) |
| 09:26.05 | not-opal | å but thats fine for you because i bleach my anus for hygeine å |
| 09:26.07 | petn-randall | Don't feed the troll. It's being taken care of. |
| 09:26.52 | misirk85 | rebooting.... |
| 09:27.06 | annadane | oh, well, you seem to have solved it yourself then. :P |
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| 09:29.24 | misirk85 | .. still not working;/ |
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| 09:30.27 | annadane | misirk85, so it doesn't register it when you a) connect to usb port and b) lsblk shows nothing? |
| 09:30.42 | WhereIsT1inkey | misirk85: *cough*timetochangedistribution*cough* |
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| 09:30.53 | annadane | WhereIsT1inkey, stop, please |
| 09:30.56 | annadane | you're not being helpful |
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| 09:32.28 | misirk85 | lsblk shows only sdX :) usb port working |
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| 09:32.45 | misirk85 | when i conect tl-722n no reactions |
| 09:32.49 | misirk85 | connect* |
| 09:33.06 | annadane | misirk85, are you doing that via the terminal? if so can you post output, if any? |
| 09:33.07 | misirk85 | ohh |
| 09:33.11 | jelly | misirk85: lsusb |
| 09:33.12 | misirk85 | i see reactions |
| 09:33.14 | WhereIsT1inkey | misirk85: if you connect other USB devices are they working ? |
| 09:33.19 | misirk85 | new usb device |
| 09:33.25 | WhereIsT1inkey | misirk85: flesh drive ? |
| 09:33.25 | misirk85 | yes |
| 09:33.27 | jelly | misirk85: lsusb is not lsblk |
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| 09:33.30 | misirk85 | stick working |
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| 09:33.39 | misirk85 | now tl-722n working |
| 09:33.44 | misirk85 | !! |
| 09:33.44 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 09:33.45 | misirk85 | :) |
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| 09:34.04 | annadane | and yeah i was probably looking for lsusb |
| 09:34.14 | annadane | i'm really bad at differentiating between the various ls* |
| 09:34.33 | annadane | (it's also 5 AM) |
| 09:34.36 | misirk85 | ok now |
| 09:34.49 | misirk85 | i trying run netwirk |
| 09:34.53 | misirk85 | network* |
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| 09:35.36 | deadrom | WhereIsT1inkey: regarding "win supports so much hardware" - this sort of remark easily makes people turn away with remarks like "use windows then". actually, linux supports a metric ton of devices, but if the hardware vendor does not release proper specs, then we cannot code proper drivers. add firmware mayhem on top. having a smooth linux setup still depends on proper hardware choice beforehand, but it's not linux' fault. well, usuall |
| 09:35.55 | misirk85 | on lsusb i see bus 003 device 007: id 2357:010c |
| 09:36.01 | misirk85 | without name, is good? |
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| 09:37.07 | annadane | my intuition is it should be fine but i'm not certain |
| 09:38.27 | foxmean | Hello, I'm currently support my friend to use KDE on Debian testing. And now he has a problem of KDE dependencies. The error is: libkf5plasma5 is already the newest version (5.37.0-2). |
| 09:38.27 | foxmean | libkf5plasma5 set to manually installed. |
| 09:38.27 | foxmean | You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these. |
| 09:38.27 | foxmean | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 09:38.30 | foxmean | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:40.10 | annadane | the biggest argument against it is if it doesn't have a name you can't be sure if it's your card but if it wasn't there before then chances are good your card is recognized and just doesn't have a name displayed for whatever reason |
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| 09:40.59 | annadane | if foxmean comes back, someone tell them and their friend to try apt --fix-broken install and if that fails go to #debian-next on oftc |
| 09:41.39 | bazhang | ok |
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| 09:45.06 | veek | anyone use losetup and mapper? |
| 09:45.20 | veek | how do you hexedit a mounted partition |
| 09:46.19 | deadrom | veek: what do you want to achieve? |
| 09:46.39 | veek | https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/586175 |
| 09:47.17 | veek | deadrom, trying to get qemu to work with converted vbox image to winxp.img |
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| 09:47.43 | veek | he says hexedit /dev/mapper/loop0p1 |
| 09:47.49 | veek | doesn't exist |
| 09:48.14 | annadane | well if it's listed as a *bug*... |
| 09:48.52 | veek | there's a solution posted |
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| 09:51.12 | vlt | veek: Usually you don't mount partitions, you mount file systems instead. |
| 09:52.09 | vlt | veek: What is the name of the partition you want to edit? |
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| 09:53.55 | coincoin169 | Can use a bootaa64.efi file for PXE booting as if it were a /efi/boot/bootnetaa64.efi file? |
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| 09:59.12 | annadane | veek, perhaps i'm dense but what does your question have to do with the bug report you linked? |
| 09:59.22 | annadane | just so we get a clearer idea of what you're asking |
| 10:00.37 | veek | annadane, my winxp.img doesn't boot after conversion from .vdi |
| 10:00.55 | veek | as in, it doesn't boot from within qemu |
| 10:01.07 | annadane | veek, and the solution to the bug report doesn't actually solve your problem i'm guessing |
| 10:01.32 | veek | annadane, i'm still reading but no a direct application doesn't work |
| 10:01.42 | annadane | i just ask because it's somewhat difficult to know where to start when bug reports are linked without context |
| 10:01.46 | annadane | okay. |
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| 10:02.02 | veek | vlt yep i know what losetup is used for - modem firmware can be mounted as well |
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| 10:03.05 | annadane | sorry. in retrospect the context is pretty clear. but it's good to be paranoid about things so people are on the same page |
| 10:03.11 | veek | vlt not sure what 'mapper' is so i'm still reading |
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| 10:06.40 | annadane | veek, if the solution isn't clear, and you're resorting to speculative things like hexediting, it's maybe better to ask in the bug report |
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| 10:06.47 | annadane | just an idea. don't treat as gospel |
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| 10:07.48 | veek | annadane, yeah was hoping for a quick fix but it looks long haul now.. |
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| 10:08.11 | annadane | you probably won't get additional insight in this channel compared to the 25 other people saying "me too" |
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| 10:08.41 | annadane | if it's in a bug report the general rule is it's not easily solvable if at all |
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| 10:09.51 | annadane | oh geez, i just noticed this is 6 years old. i apologize. well, try opening a new thread, then |
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| 10:10.21 | annadane | or maybe better, open a new debian bug report rather than launchpad |
| 10:10.46 | annadane | as the version of QEMU in debian may be different to the one discussed there |
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| 10:12.55 | veek | annadane, thanks yeah - i need to reboot - i scrwd up by attaching two loop devices to the same img :p so i don't think it likes that much |
| 10:13.35 | bazhang | annadane, in future, you can /memoserv them |
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| 10:13.52 | annadane | bazhang, memoserv whom? |
| 10:14.13 | bazhang | annadane, whoever you wanted the earlier message passed on to |
| 10:14.20 | annadane | oh, okay |
| 10:15.26 | annadane | Invalid command. Use /msg MemoServ help for a command listing. |
| 10:15.52 | annadane | "/memoserv foxmean blah blah blah" |
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| 10:20.38 | annadane | oh. i'm a moron. |
| 10:20.43 | annadane | let me actually memoserv properly. |
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| 10:21.52 | annadane | there. was that so hard? |
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| 10:23.11 | rocketmagnet | hi everyone |
| 10:24.00 | rocketmagnet | i've a strange problem, i shutdown debian normaly but now when i start it after the login i get a message that cinematic (or how this window manager is called) can't be found |
| 10:24.13 | rocketmagnet | how to setup the window manager used in debian ? |
| 10:24.13 | annadane | rocketmagnet, is this on stretch? |
| 10:24.20 | rocketmagnet | 9 |
| 10:24.25 | annadane | yeah, so stretch |
| 10:24.52 | rocketmagnet | any idea what could have happend |
| 10:25.19 | annadane | can't say i've ever heard of cinematic. is it in the repository? |
| 10:25.37 | towo^work | propably he is meaning cinnamon |
| 10:26.13 | annadane | rocketmagnet, when you say you get a message, where do you get it? |
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| 10:27.05 | annadane | in other words, do you get it in a terminal, or just a generic black screen with that message where normally you would get your login screen |
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| 10:28.43 | rocketmagnet | i mean the window manager that is about special effects, i can't remember the name |
| 10:28.47 | sunxb | can formatted partitions be restored? |
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| 10:29.51 | rocketmagnet | how to setup or see the current window manager used ? |
| 10:30.24 | annadane | if you installed debian yourself and you picked a desktop environment beginning with 'c' it means you have cinnamon |
| 10:30.56 | annadane | oh, window manager |
| 10:30.59 | annadane | i'm sorry |
| 10:31.22 | annadane | though it's possible you're using the terms interchangeably - but if you picked one during the installer with c it nevertheless means cinnamon |
| 10:31.57 | annadane | anyway, it depends on what the specific error message is and where you get it |
| 10:32.22 | annadane | was this perhaps shortly after an update? 9.2 just released |
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| 10:32.30 | sunxb | My home formatted, can anyone give some suggestions? |
| 10:32.44 | rocketmagnet | annadane: i've installed gdm3 but now when i restart he tells me he can't find cinnamon ... |
| 10:33.13 | annadane | hm. may be in /var/log/messages |
| 10:33.22 | annadane | i don't really know |
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| 10:33.39 | annadane | i've never really heard of error messages like that specifically |
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| 10:34.05 | rocketmagnet | annadane: but how to set which window manager is used ? or find out wich window manager is used ? |
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| 10:34.38 | rocketmagnet | i get a normal login but instead of starting X i get an error message about cinnamon and he hangs |
| 10:34.51 | annadane | as far as i know there's no quick and dirty way to just know but i could be wrong |
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| 10:35.06 | towo^work | rocketmagnet, dpmg -l < grep cinnamon |
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| 10:35.29 | annadane | but the issue is why you can't log into it, which is strange in debian stable |
| 10:35.36 | towo^work | rocketmagnet, dpmg -l | grep cinnamon; sorry |
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| 10:35.43 | towo^work | grr |
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| 10:35.49 | towo^work | rocketmagnet, dpkg -l | grep cinnamon; sorry |
| 10:35.50 | towo^work | so |
| 10:36.04 | towo^work | and then you can try another login-manager, like lightdm |
| 10:36.27 | annadane | or gdm3 but i'm not sure which one cinnamon uses as default |
| 10:36.46 | towo^work | [12:32:44] <rocketmagnet> annadane: i've installed gdm3 but now when i restart he tells me he can't find cinnamon ... |
| 10:37.02 | annadane | right. sorry. wires getting crossed |
| 10:37.18 | annadane | odd that gdm3 would also do that though |
| 10:38.31 | rocketmagnet | i try it and come back, thanks |
| 10:39.10 | annadane | it really depends on what the error message actually is |
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| 10:40.20 | veek | that kpartx bit worked - i had created 2 losetup mappings |
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| 10:41.54 | sunxb | my xrandr can't change brightness, can anyone give some suggestions? |
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| 10:46.35 | misirk85 | hello a have anther question |
| 10:46.54 | misirk85 | when i write sudo dmesg |grep firmware |
| 10:46.57 | misirk85 | i see |
| 10:47.00 | misirk85 | r8188eu 3-6:1.0: direct-loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin |
| 10:47.09 | misirk85 | sometimes 0 times sometimes 3 |
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| 10:47.21 | misirk85 | is bad thing? |
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| 10:47.50 | misirk85 | serious mistake? :/ |
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| 10:48.15 | annadane | that's weird and may be a bug but i don't think it's necessarily a computer breaking problem |
| 10:48.22 | annadane | not sure why that happens |
| 10:48.32 | misirk85 | but all is works correctly :) |
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| 10:49.57 | brv3512 | misirk85: that does not look like an error. it just tells the firmware is being loaded. |
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| 10:50.17 | misirk85 | yupi I have a network :D thanks for help :) everyone's :) |
| 10:50.22 | annadane | the message isn't an error but the fact that the message is duplicated is weird |
| 10:50.46 | brv3512 | annadane: maybe the wireless nic is set up and down multiple times |
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| 10:51.18 | brv3512 | annadane: some wireless drivers load the firmware each time the nic is set to "up" state |
| 10:51.33 | annadane | i'll take your word for it |
| 10:51.41 | misirk85 | before "r8188eu 3-6:1.0: direct-loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin" is [10.133206] |
| 10:51.57 | misirk85 | nest [212....] next [424...] |
| 10:51.58 | brv3512 | misirk85: that's 10.1 seconds uptime |
| 10:52.00 | annadane | that means seconds from boot |
| 10:52.25 | annadane | so yes it may just be the wifi loading at different times, it's not in quick succession |
| 10:52.36 | misirk85 | so is good? |
| 10:52.44 | annadane | probably everything is fine |
| 10:53.21 | annadane | yeah, right, i should have asked about timestamps |
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| 10:54.21 | misirk85 | :) |
| 10:55.00 | misirk85 | ok i can go to the store ;d |
| 10:55.04 | misirk85 | bb all:) |
| 10:55.17 | misirk85 | thanks a lot:) |
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| 11:09.53 | veek | qemu-img convert -p -f vdi -O qcow2 VBox/WinXP1/WinXP1.vdi WinXP1.qcow2; qemu-img create -f qcow2 -o backing_file=/mnt/hd_sda3/WinXP1.qcow2 foo; qemu-system-i386 -m 600 -hda foo; i get a blue screen of death that flashes past |
| 11:11.02 | towo^work | because xp does't like hardware changes |
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| 11:11.32 | veek | towo^work, ah so is there a way to set qemu to vbox hardware? |
| 11:11.34 | towo^work | propably it's "only" the harddrive controller |
| 11:11.42 | towo^work | veek no |
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| 11:11.55 | veek | crud hmm so what do i do then?? |
| 11:11.59 | brv3512 | veek: my guess is that in virtualbox the storage was sata and now in qemu it's ide (pata) |
| 11:12.10 | towo^work | you have should use mergeide in vbox before converting |
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| 11:12.32 | veek | ah hmm.. okay let me reinstall vbox and do that |
| 11:12.38 | veek | thanks |
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| 11:13.13 | towo^work | veek, even done it must not work |
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| 11:13.37 | veek | boo hoo |
| 11:13.37 | towo^work | qemu and vbox do have such different hardware |
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| 11:14.02 | brv3512 | wrong english alert :) "must not" means "is forbidden" |
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| 11:22.32 | veek | how do i get the hw cfg in vbox |
| 11:23.08 | veek | is there a tutorial on vbox |
| 11:23.49 | towo^work | veek, you have senn, this is a debian-channel? |
| 11:24.03 | towo^work | your "problem" is absolute OT for this channel |
| 11:25.01 | veek | towo^work, so is this convo.. i mean what is debian strictly speaking.. prolly apt and the logo :p it's roughly on topic |
| 11:25.15 | veek | but i'll move to virtualbox |
| 11:25.53 | towo^work | veek, for sure debian does not mean XP guests in $some virtualizer |
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| 11:27.00 | veek | i can install virtualbox on it and i'm trying to run qemu on it.. 20 min back we were talking about losetup - should i move to #linux for that? unclear rules lead to conflict |
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| 11:37.33 | OS-32198 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:38.22 | towo^work | OS-32198, thanks for your password |
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| 11:41.22 | OS-32198 | hi |
| 11:41.37 | jim | hi |
| 11:42.09 | vlt | OS-32198: Hi! You might want to change your password. |
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| 11:44.06 | jim | I'm trying to move to wayland, and installed some packages including xwayland. (note, it turns out xwayland was already installed, and so it upgraded it instead)... question is, before I reboot, is there a way to test if this wayland thingy is going to work? can I start a wayland on another vt to see? |
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| 12:03.21 | jim | is there a way to determine whether I'm already running wayland? |
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| 12:05.37 | OS-28688 | ./msg NickServ IDENTIFY 8733061 |
| 12:05.56 | fuzzywuzz | jim maybe you can see it in the 'ps aux' process list |
| 12:06.04 | fuzzywuzz | but i am not sure what the process is called |
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| 12:07.03 | goofy_ | hi |
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| 12:07.10 | vlt | OS-32198: Hi! You might want to change your password. |
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| 12:17.56 | fuzzywuzz | i'll take it to debian-offtopic |
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| 12:24.59 | _jd | Hi all, my last update of Debian 8 has a problem upgrading redis-server. It basically gets stuck. Any suggestion how to troubleshoot this one? |
| 12:25.13 | petn-randall | ,v redis-server |
| 12:25.14 | judd | Package: redis-server on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:2.4.14-1; wheezy-security: 2:2.4.14-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 2:2.8.17-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 2:2.8.17-1+deb8u5; jessie-security: 2:2.8.17-1+deb8u5; stretch: 3:3.2.6-1; jessie-backports: 3:3.2.8-2~bpo8+1; stretch-backports: 4:4.0.2-2~bpo9+1; buster: 4:4.0.2-2; sid: 4:4.0.2-2 |
| 12:25.18 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 12:25.18 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 12:25.28 | petn-randall | _jd: Can you provide the info from the factoid above? |
| 12:26.26 | _jd | petn-randall: 1) apt-get update; apt-get upgrade. I'll priovde latter in a bit |
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| 12:27.04 | petn-randall | _jd: Great, thanks |
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| 12:29.41 | _jd | petn-randall: 2) https://bpaste.net/show/b82203e64173 3) https://bpaste.net/show/5501ae3158ac |
| 12:30.10 | _jd | Also, this is a distro upgrade from 7.8 to 8 |
| 12:30.20 | _jd | (if relevant) |
| 12:30.26 | petn-randall | !dotdeb |
| 12:30.26 | dpkg | http://dotdeb.org/ is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack, unsupported in #debian. To get support, read http://www.dotdeb.org/2012/08/24/how-to-post-useful-bug-reports/ and report any issues to https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/issues . Ask me about <dotdeb alternatives>. |
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| 12:30.43 | petn-randall | _jd: You're missing actual output for 1). |
| 12:31.03 | _jd | petn-randall: There is no output. It's installing package and gets stuck forever |
| 12:31.07 | _jd | I get no error |
| 12:31.30 | _jd | (well forever >= 24hrs) |
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| 12:31.44 | _jd | I killed apt-get after that and removed .lock file |
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| 12:31.51 | petn-randall | _jd: "apt-get update" gives you *no* output? |
| 12:32.03 | jim | _jd, maybe you can do this to start: apt-get update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 |
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| 12:32.42 | jim | _jd, that way, you can let them read it for themselves, which is what they are asking for |
| 12:32.44 | _jd | petn-randall: I see, I thought you wanted the output from upgrading redis-server (apt-get upgrade part that got stuck) |
| 12:32.55 | petn-randall | _jd: Also, I'm sure "apt-get upgrade" will give you some output until it gets stuck. |
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| 12:34.11 | _jd | petn-randall: https://bpaste.net/show/586f38c5cfcc output from apt-get upgrade |
| 12:34.20 | _jd | And this is where it gets stuck |
| 12:35.04 | petn-randall | _jd: Ah, this is a dotdeb package that gets stuck. You'll have to ask their support, no idea what they're doing. |
| 12:35.14 | _jd | petn-randall: I see, thank you |
| 12:35.19 | jim | applauds _jd for starting to provide actual information :) |
| 12:35.36 | _jd | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.02 | petn-randall | _jd: Not sure, maybe they have more info on their website. |
| 12:36.03 | jim | you can find out this way... there is a bot, alis, that can assist you in looking for channels on the Freenode irc net. To start, /msg alis help |
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| 12:36.48 | _jd | petn-randall: Thank you |
| 12:37.33 | TandyUK | hey guys, how would I go about customising a 9.2 netinstall iso (or via boot options) to customise eg, ip addresses, packages to be installed, hostname, timezone, user accounts and passwords, and so on. pretty much like a centos kickstart file |
| 12:38.11 | jim | there's something called preseeding |
| 12:38.12 | TandyUK | essentially i just want to boot this custom iso, and the next human interaction required should be me logging in for the first time |
| 12:38.20 | jim | !preseed |
| 12:38.20 | dpkg | [preseed] Preseeding provides a way to set answers to questions asked during the Debian installation process, to allow for a streamlined or completely automated installation. The <install guide> provides an extensive appendix on preseeding with a full example. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed and http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 . See also <debconf-set-selections>. |
| 12:38.31 | TandyUK | sounds good, cheers :) |
| 12:38.44 | jim | welcome |
| 12:39.18 | TandyUK | tbh the driver behind this is the retarded decision to rmove net-tools from the default install |
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| 12:39.40 | TandyUK | for 25 years ifconfig has been the config/diag tool of choice, and its not going to change |
| 12:39.59 | TandyUK | removing it is just going to piss people off (including me) |
| 12:40.00 | jim | as far as IP, you could also set up a dhcp server and give it the mac address of the machine in question, and the IP you want to assign |
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| 12:40.19 | TandyUK | theres no dhcp server on our network, so thats not an option |
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| 12:41.04 | _jd | petn-randall: BTW is there a way to remove this broken package? |
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| 12:41.35 | TandyUK | and before you say "ip a" this doesnt give the same info/format as ifconfig gave out, so far too many scripts which rely on it would need modifying |
| 12:42.08 | dgp | TandyUK: IIRC those tools didn't/don't have an upstream maintaining them |
| 12:42.11 | TandyUK | if there was an "ip ifconfig" option to make it output the old style format, that would be acceptable |
| 12:42.21 | petn-randall | _jd: You could try dpkg -P <packagename>, that will remove all data, too, though. |
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| 12:42.29 | dgp | TandyUK: there is ifconfig in busybox that works though |
| 12:42.53 | jim | TandyUK, well, about ifconfig, yes, there has been recent movement in ifconfig dev... but, a lot of folks consider ifconfig (and friends) to be deprecated in favor of ip; you should let said people who could get pissed off, that they need to start their process of learning it |
| 12:43.07 | jim | I have something, let's see... |
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| 12:43.40 | jim | it might be this: http://inai.de/2008/02/19 |
| 12:43.56 | TandyUK | the custom install is probably the way forward though, then ican get stuff like htop, iftop, iotop etc installed by default too |
| 12:44.07 | TandyUK | imho they should be classed as "standard system utilities" |
| 12:44.35 | jim | TandyUK, yes, I believe that's true |
| 12:44.40 | TandyUK | i do like the changed default in 9.x though where ssh is now checked and gui is unchecked :) |
| 12:44.45 | dgp | TandyUK: eh, why would everyone want all that crap? |
| 12:44.53 | TandyUK | only been asking for that one for like 10 years lol |
| 12:44.54 | petn-randall | TandyUK: There problem with "defaults" though is that in a room with 10 people, you'll have 12 different opinions about it. |
| 12:45.16 | petn-randall | s/There/The/ |
| 12:45.27 | _jd | petn-randall: I get package in incoherent state, you should reinstan before attempting to remove it... |
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| 12:45.40 | TandyUK | petn-randall: agreed, imho a utility to run once on a configured system to get it to build a custom mini-iso with <everything present on this machine> would be ideal :P |
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| 12:46.46 | petn-randall | _jd: Looks like dotdeb screwed that package up badly. One more reason not to use it. |
| 12:47.16 | _jd | petn-randall: *sigh* I would if a could. Unfortunatelly it's not my call. Thanks anyway |
| 12:47.35 | TandyUK | essentially a dumbed down version of https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed/EditIso |
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| 12:54.24 | zbychuk | Is there a way to prepare an USB Stick installation media with all packages from e.g. 9.2 version of Debian distribution for amd64 or other architecture? |
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| 12:55.25 | petn-randall | zbychuk: There are bluray images you can just put on the USB stick. |
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| 12:55.39 | petn-randall | But there's still 3 of them, IIRC. |
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| 12:56.22 | zbychuk | I want to have installation media with all packages on one USB stick. |
| 12:56.35 | zbychuk | How can i do that? |
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| 13:02.41 | AndreasLutro | *all* packages? that's going to require a really really big USB stick |
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| 13:05.06 | rdz | hey all. how is a ssh host key selected if there are many? how can i find out which public key needs to go into my known_hosts file? |
| 13:05.23 | JustASlacker | whats the correct way to have mysql on a different port? |
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| 13:06.31 | zbychuk | AndreasLutro: all packages for one architecture e.g. amd64 |
| 13:06.56 | AndreasLutro | according to https://www.debian.org/mirror/size that's 257GB |
| 13:07.27 | FinalX | not for just debian 9.2 |
| 13:07.31 | FinalX | ..which is what he asked |
| 13:07.53 | zbychuk | I asked about one architecture only. |
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| 13:11.01 | FinalX | zbychuk: http://www.alandmoore.com/blog/2011/12/29/how-to-install-debian-offline/ will probably help |
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| 13:11.43 | FinalX | oh nvm |
| 13:11.46 | FinalX | it does not.. :) |
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| 13:12.59 | saulll | Hi, is there some way to upgrade qtcreator on debian 8? I am running 3.2.1. but there are more recent versions available: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=qtcreator&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
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| 13:16.03 | BCMM | saulll: are you still on jessie? |
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| 13:16.26 | BCMM | (lsb_release -a) |
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| 13:16.46 | zbychuk | FinalX: It's about something else. |
| 13:17.12 | saulll | BCMM: yes, 8.9 |
| 13:17.17 | nvz | saulll: simplest thing to do would probably be to upgrade to stretch as Debian 8 is now old stable on long term support, and if not that, install it in a newer stretcch/buster/sid chroot and run it with schroot |
| 13:17.20 | saulll | BCMM: And I need to stay there |
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| 13:17.39 | BCMM | saulll: you know that's oldstable now, and there is a new stable distro out, right? |
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| 13:17.52 | wdouglass | Hi all! I'm running debian stretch. i have a program that creates a TAP interface, and I want a group of (non-root) users to be able to run it. I've got group ownership, and that seems to be working. I've added CAP_NET_ADMIN+ep to get the tap creation permissions. Unfortunately, i'm getting "SIOCSIFADDR: Operation not permitted" and "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted". am i missing something? |
| 13:17.59 | FinalX | zbychuk: hence my "nevermind, it does not" |
| 13:18.19 | BCMM | saulll: sorry for the tautology, but if you stay on an obsolete distro, you get obsolete software... |
| 13:18.25 | saulll | BCMM: yes, I know. I cannot upgrade because the customers work on 8.9 |
| 13:18.30 | nvz | saulll: because if it were something less complicated I'd suggest backporting it yourself since it isnt in jessie-backports, but that is up to you.. there are lots of deps.. if you wanna try build something like that, that too is an option |
| 13:18.31 | BCMM | oh. fun. |
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| 13:19.14 | saulll | okay, thanks guys |
| 13:19.14 | BCMM | nvz, saulll: i've a strong suspicion that one of those deps is going to basically be "use a newer qt", which will break, like, everything in jessie |
| 13:19.17 | nvz | saulll: there may be complications doing a simple sid backport proceedure on such a complex package, and it may become more involved |
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| 13:20.08 | nvz | BCMM: no, that wouldnt happen, what'd happen is that a feature in jessie's qt deps wouldnt satisfy.. backporting builds against the jessie versions |
| 13:20.16 | bitlan | hi, what is the best solution for traffic shaping on linux? I using debian 9 for NAT and i would like to shape traffic.. |
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| 13:21.03 | nvz | BCMM: having a qt call jessie's libs didnt satisfy would just result in breakage of the program itself or failure to build |
| 13:21.21 | wdouglass | wait...nevermind, the tap interface does get created. it just doesn't get configured. very strange. |
| 13:21.27 | saulll | nvz: BCMM looks like the run files work ... http://download.qt.io/snapshots/qtcreator/4.4/4.4.1/1565/ |
| 13:22.00 | BCMM | ok |
| 13:22.48 | nvz | yeah that means nothing to me.. I'm not familiar with this new fangled space age technology.. my abacus can't compute that |
| 13:22.50 | BCMM | nvz: i may not have been clear - i was saying that backporting a newer version of qt was almost certainly too much work |
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| 13:23.14 | BCMM | nvz: .run file. windows-style "download this installer and execute it" |
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| 13:23.31 | nvz | BCMM: you don't generally backport all the deps, you just backport the package and build against those deps.. you'd attempt to build against the old qt unless it wouldnt work |
| 13:23.31 | BCMM | nvz: i.e. how nvidia users like to break debian |
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| 13:24.45 | nvz | BCMM: but we agree that all the kde deps is the probelm with a potential backport which is why we both suggested upgrade to stretch as best option, and I say installing into a stretch/buster/sid chroot is 2nd best |
| 13:24.47 | BCMM | nvz: ... it's qt creator. it's going to want whatever version of qt it wants. |
| 13:25.06 | BCMM | qt and kde are not the same thing |
| 13:25.16 | nvz | BCMM: oh wait I remember what qt creator is now.. its an IDE kinda think for building QT interfaces.. heh |
| 13:25.18 | BCMM | yes |
| 13:25.31 | nvz | yeah that does make it more complex |
| 13:25.37 | BCMM | it is *not* going to work on an older version of qt, basically |
| 13:26.07 | nvz | BCMM: yeah I was just knowing it was a kde type app that would have lots of qt deps, I wasnt considering what it actually was |
| 13:26.11 | BCMM | the .run file might even be the best option. it's 120MB or something so i guess it goes in /opt/ complete with it's own copy of qt |
| 13:26.39 | nvz | BCMM: yes that is anoter option that would be just as unintrusive as a chroot, without the need for a whole new base system |
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| 13:26.52 | BCMM | nvz: i was gonna suggest something like that, but... |
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| 13:27.38 | saulll | BCMM: users home. I also have a chroot to debian9. Im also considering that. |
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| 13:28.06 | BCMM | saulll: what new features of qtcreator do you want to use, though? if it's something like widgets that were introduced in a new qt version, are you going to end up making something that your client's Jessie machines can't actually run? |
| 13:28.07 | nvz | saulll: look into schroot it can easily be configured to run apps from within a chroot as though they were native |
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| 13:28.28 | unkmar | I am running LXDE and wish to increase the number of virtual desktops. The "Desktop Pager" settings GUI isn't displaying when I right click to activate it. |
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| 13:28.53 | nvz | BCMM: that too is a very important point you bring up.. if you get a newer qt creator you're building incompatible interfaces |
| 13:29.12 | nvz | BCMM: using a chroot approach would address this giving you a full environment to run those apps you create in |
| 13:29.29 | nvz | BCMM: one you could tar up and distribute no less |
| 13:29.52 | BCMM | nvz: now, i don't know why the client insists on debian 8 |
| 13:30.21 | BCMM | but depending on *how* stupid the reasoning is, they might not be ameanable to basically sneaking debian 9 in |
| 13:30.28 | saulll | BCMM: No, I just have cmake issues with the 3.2.1 and the debugger often freezes. |
| 13:30.32 | nvz | BCMM: if you're like most of us, you know clients are stupid and hire you to do things but then dont trust your advice even though they know they don't know enough |
| 13:31.26 | saulll | nvz: BCMM The customer is upgrading his sys. This will take a while. Soon deb9 will be standard |
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| 13:32.28 | nvz | saulll: to me all things considered schroot is best option as it will give you what you need now, so you can migrate when client upgrades |
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| 13:33.13 | nvz | unlike installing a binary from upstream, it'll give you a full stretch environment in which to build and run things in the mean time |
| 13:33.27 | saulll | thanks nvz. |
| 13:33.30 | BCMM | saulll: ah so you can dev *for* stretch, you just can't dev *on* stretch? |
| 13:33.31 | nvz | schroot will help integrate it all better |
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| 13:34.45 | unkmar | Nevermind. Found it. |
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| 13:38.42 | saulll | BCMM: I can dev wehrever I want, but I have only a dual boot deb8+9 machine. Right now I maintain deb8. Chrooting into deb9 is possible right now. I will check schroot as well. |
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| 13:39.16 | tw | fwiw, I'm using qtcreator (from stretch) to develop and build interfaces for QTe 4.8. They're not that incompatible. |
| 13:39.38 | BCMM | saulll: i mean, is the client moving to 9 before this package gets distributed? |
| 13:39.52 | BCMM | can you dev on your own machine instead of the client's machine? |
| 13:40.31 | BCMM | tw: yes, but we don't know what features from the new qtcreator he wants, so i'm wondering whether it's really features from the new qt he's after |
| 13:40.45 | tw | Fair enough. |
| 13:41.04 | nvz | tw: yeah well we're talking more developing on 3.2 for 4.2 thats not just a point release, thats a major version |
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| 13:41.22 | nvz | or on 4.2 for 3.2 |
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| 13:41.48 | murat__ | hey guys |
| 13:42.01 | murat__ | how can i open a gresource file in debian? |
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| 13:42.33 | saulll | I am not using qt features. I only use the IDE because of the C++ and CMake features. |
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| 13:42.56 | murat__ | i think i must install a package to open gresource files. |
| 13:43.14 | murat__ | do u know which package should i install? |
| 13:43.22 | tw | nvz: not sure where you're going with this, stretch's qt is 5.7 and I'm developing for qte 4.8. That is a major version. |
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| 13:44.10 | BCMM | nvz: the qt versions from the deps are 5.7.0 and 5.3.0 respectively |
| 13:44.20 | BCMM | it's not *runtime* stuff that's changing major version |
| 13:44.36 | tw | It'll probably work, you just need to make sure the target version is installed. |
| 13:44.37 | BCMM | saulll: wait do you mean you're not even using qt? |
| 13:44.55 | tw | If you're not doing qt dev, no worries about versions. |
| 13:45.01 | nvz | murat__: package libglib2.0-bin has a gresource command that is suppose to be a helper for those binary files |
| 13:45.07 | saulll | BCMM: yes |
| 13:45.22 | saulll | so there is no issue for me at all |
| 13:45.26 | saulll | should all work fine |
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| 13:45.53 | saulll | Im happy about the 3 qtcreator versions I have now access to: deb8, chroot deb9, deb8 + run pakcage. |
| 13:46.02 | saulll | and one possible schroot in future |
| 13:46.34 | nvz | tw: right I was looking at the qtcreator versions. I'm ducking out of this conversation there are people more qualified than me dealing with it.. I dont develop qt |
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| 13:47.17 | tw | 'pparently it's not a qt discussion either. |
| 13:47.56 | nvz | saulll: schroot is just a command that allows you to run things from within the schroot like a sudo kinda command it just makes things a little easier when running apps especially those that will use the X that is outside the chroot |
| 13:48.06 | nvz | saulll: from with a chroot that is |
| 13:48.45 | nvz | like the difference between su and sudo, schroot is more flexible and configurable on a per-app or per-chroot basis |
| 13:49.24 | saulll | ah, okay |
| 13:49.39 | tw | It also does a whole bunch of directory bind work for you which is really nice. |
| 13:49.59 | nvz | yeah I always recommend it for running X apps especially |
| 13:50.09 | nvz | takes all that extra work out of it |
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| 13:51.38 | nvz | once you configure schroot for your chroot env you can just call schroot with the name of your chroot and the command and it does all the complicated stuff for you |
| 13:52.36 | nvz | its also very handy when you work with multiple different chroot environments |
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| 13:53.50 | nvz | and really I dont do much development, but I think chroots are great for development because it contains all your build env in one place you can easily distribute and not cruft up your system, if you build a lot of different things and have the space, you can have a chroot customized to the needs of each project and migrate it to other machines easily |
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| 13:54.25 | nvz | I personally hate installing tons of dev packages on my main system and rather keep it contained |
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| 13:55.13 | tw | the popular solution for that particular problem is vagrant. |
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| 13:55.34 | tw | or so I hear; that's what I use vagrant for. |
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| 13:58.43 | Frodo_ | Guten Tag =) |
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| 14:01.04 | Frodo_ | Ich habe ein Problem mit meinem Live Linux, und zwar ist folgendes passiert: Ich habe einige Arbeiten erledigt die ich noch nicht online gesichert habe. Zwischendurch wollte ich über weebly.com eine alte Internetseite bearbeiten. Habe also das Frontend bzw. den Editor von der Seite aufgerufen und seitdem lädt und lädt er vom DVD Laufwerk Daten nach ohne Ende. Gibt es eine Möglichkeit das ganze abzubrechen sodass sich der PC wieder |
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| 14:01.16 | babilen | !de |
| 14:01.17 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 14:01.18 | Frodo_ | Ich kann aktuell nicht mal mehr die Maus bewegen, es wird nur geladen und geladen |
| 14:02.45 | Frodo_ | My Live linux crashed, i opened weebly.com and opened the editor. Since then my computer keeps loading and loading from dvd drive. I cant use my mouse anymore. Problem is i got a lot of work which i hadnt saved online before. Is there a way to get back the control of my machine ? |
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| 14:04.33 | JustASlacker | DVD broken? |
| 14:04.43 | JustASlacker | try to reboot and load dvd to ram |
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| 14:05.10 | deadrom | since when does debian feature a live mode? |
| 14:05.17 | deadrom | got one with 9? |
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| 14:06.52 | Frodo_ | Its debian 8, i just booted it from a computer magazine dvd |
| 14:07.07 | deadrom | Frodo_: if you can switch to a tty with ctrl-alt-f1, log in there, kill the process that you last started. who does real work on a DVD booted live system? |
| 14:09.05 | anexit_ | tw: so I have ipsec in transport working with ipip tunnel mode. I can ping both routers but anything beyond that I lose IPSEC |
| 14:09.11 | anexit_ | tw: https://pastebin.ca/3886184 |
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| 14:11.15 | tw | anexit_: what does your routing table look like? |
| 14:11.22 | Frodo_ | ctrl alt f1 doesnt work |
| 14:11.30 | Frodo_ | may i eject the dvd, may that help ?` |
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| 14:14.02 | tw | deadrom: probably a lot of TAILS users, though not so much debian live. |
| 14:14.37 | anexit_ | tw:https://pastebin.ca/index.php |
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| 14:14.48 | anexit_ | agh https://pastebin.ca/3886185 |
| 14:14.50 | deadrom | Frodo_: it won't let you, my guess. |
| 14:14.50 | tw | That is probably not as helpful as you think it is ;) |
| 14:14.54 | anexit_ | haha |
| 14:15.12 | anexit_ | xfce being slow |
| 14:15.31 | Frodo_ | i see |
| 14:15.51 | Frodo_ | so i there is nothing i can do, am i right ? |
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| 14:16.09 | phre4k | what's the default DHCP client on Debian 9? |
| 14:16.39 | tw | anexit_: How did you make gif0? |
| 14:16.45 | phre4k | I set my interface up in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:17.00 | hexa- | phre4k: dhclient |
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| 14:17.09 | phre4k | hexa-: ty! |
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| 14:17.26 | anexit_ | tw: that is on the freebsd box |
| 14:17.44 | anexit_ | using gre on the debian box |
| 14:17.55 | deadrom | Frodo_: does it have openssh? maybe you can ssh in from another machine. unlikely on live, though |
| 14:18.13 | Frodo_ | i dont think so |
| 14:18.18 | phre4k | dhclient -6 enp0s25 -v doesn't work⦠do I need something else for IPv6? |
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| 14:19.30 | tw | anexit_: gre should be in the ipsec transport, not the other way around. Use the external addresses in ipsec-tools.conf. |
| 14:20.14 | tw | Whatever you set up as your gre endpoints should have spdadd lines. |
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| 14:20.52 | Frodo_ | thank you for your time, it finally crashed panic occured :D |
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| 14:21.37 | Ormu1 | :O |
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| 14:22.45 | Ormu1 | does Bash support complex operations on strings? |
| 14:23.29 | Ormu1 | i have to do some batch processing of images and i wonder if i should do it using Bash or just go the easy way and use Python :| |
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| 14:25.26 | Iridos | probably not⦠define "complex" |
| 14:25.47 | Iridos | you mostly do stuff like this using sed or awk inside the bash script |
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| 14:26.19 | tw | ^- sed or awk if you don't want to jump into python or perl. |
| 14:27.39 | Ormu1 | well, not very complex. Replacing, adding and removing parts from the file names. Python is the way to go i think :| |
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| 14:28.14 | tw | provide an example? |
| 14:28.25 | FinalX | zsh can easily do that |
| 14:28.37 | FinalX | bash also has some support, but not as extensive |
| 14:29.07 | FinalX | but I second Iridos's comment about using sed/awk though, that's probably a lot easier :) |
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| 14:30.09 | FinalX | for a in *; do b=`echo $a | sed -e 's|xx|yy|' -e 's/1234/abcd/'`; mv "$a" "$b"; done |
| 14:30.11 | FinalX | that kinda stuff. |
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| 14:31.57 | phre4k | I get "client6_init: bind: Address already in use" with this /etc/wide-dhcpv6/dhcp6c.conf": https://paste.debian.net/hidden/c1573d5a/ |
| 14:32.00 | Iridos | Ormu1, read the bit on Parameter Expansion in man bash⦠things like removing file-suffixes in a variable can be easily done in bash natively, also simple substitutions |
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| 14:33.21 | Ormu1 | hm :o |
| 14:33.26 | Iridos | Ormu1, e.g. file="myfile.txt"; echo $file ${file%.txt} ${file#my} |
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| 14:33.48 | Iridos | well⦠actually should use quotes in that example |
| 14:33.59 | Iridos | Ormu1, e.g. file="myfile.txt"; echo "$file" "${file%.txt}" "${file#my}" |
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| 14:34.49 | tw | there's also a perl rename script in apt, which takes some getting used to, but is very effective. |
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| 14:38.32 | Ormu1 | I think I'm going to use Python as I'm already familiar with it. Thanks for your time anyway guys :o |
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| 14:41.09 | petn-randall | Ormu1: You don't have to be familiar with Perl to use "rename". You just need to know about regex. |
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| 14:45.20 | _aeris_ | hello #debian ! |
| 14:45.53 | _aeris_ | i try to use USENETWORK for pbuilder, but i have trouble |
| 14:46.16 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 14:46.16 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 14:46.33 | _aeris_ | if you define it on the cli like "USENETWORK=yes cowbuilder build", it seems to be reseted |
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| 14:46.42 | _aeris_ | not redefined on the ~/.pbuilderrc⦠:'( |
| 14:47.04 | _aeris_ | petn-randall > let me the time to ask my question :P |
| 14:47.24 | _aeris_ | if i export it before the cowbuilder invoke, same trouble, reset to no |
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| 14:48.07 | _aeris_ | i have to do a trick [ "${USE_NET}" == "yes" ] && USENETWORK=yes on the pbuilderrc to activate the option |
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| 14:49.03 | jrtc27 | _aeris_: yes, because /usr/share/pbuilder/pbuilderrc overwrites all those things |
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| 14:49.12 | jrtc27 | you shouldn't be passing them as environment variables from outside |
| 14:49.27 | _aeris_ | hum⦠|
| 14:49.29 | jrtc27 | new(ish) pbuilder/cowbuilder should support --use-network yes |
| 14:49.30 | _aeris_ | ok |
| 14:49.43 | DammitJim | what do you guys think is the fastest way to transfer a large file from a windows to a Debian server? |
| 14:50.07 | DammitJim | I'm thinking possibly breaking up the file and reassembling it so that one can use multiple streams over LAN? |
| 14:50.13 | DammitJim | maybe it doesn't even matter |
| 14:50.27 | _aeris_ | jrtc27 > thanks a lot ! |
| 14:50.30 | jrtc27 | np |
| 14:51.44 | _aeris_ | DammitJim > rsync ? scp ? |
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| 14:52.24 | DammitJim | _aeris_, yeah, that's what we are trying now |
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| 14:52.35 | DammitJim | but was wondering if there was a faster way to do this in a LAN |
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| 14:53.05 | _aeris_ | DammitJim > on the lan, you can saturate the link between the two hosts |
| 14:53.15 | _aeris_ | so splitting connexion is not usefull here |
| 14:53.37 | _aeris_ | split is interesting when you can't saturate all path between hosts with a single connexion |
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| 14:55.56 | la-o-wai | what's the most light weight wm nowadays |
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| 14:56.51 | tw | lighter than twm, dwm or fvwm? Does it have to be *modern*? |
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| 15:00.02 | la-o-wai | tw: ok how many memory will fvwm use |
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| 15:00.16 | brv3512 | la-o-wai: you might want to try fluxbox or icewm. |
| 15:00.41 | tw | no idea, try it and find out. Probably about the same RSS as a modern instance of bash. |
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| 15:02.23 | la-o-wai | 1G RAM enough? |
| 15:02.57 | la-o-wai | ofc i still wanna use firefox or other apps with it |
| 15:02.57 | sheepdog | Jwm is very lightweight too, idles around 80mb ;-) |
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| 15:03.14 | AllyG | How do you list the to-be-installed packages in a build-dep? E.g., "apt-get build-dep SOMECOLLECTION" fails to list anything for me, because it says there are missing deps "The following packages have unmet dependencies: ...". Ok, so I want to take a step back and just SEE what all the installs/deps ARE ... |
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| 15:04.00 | merlac | TIL window managers. none of the packages listed here https://packages.debian.org/de/stretch/x11/ whose descriptions contain the words Window and Manager is currently running in my debian stretch. which "WM" am I using? |
| 15:04.00 | tw | la-o-wai: for fvwm? fvwm is like max 20MB of ram. If you want a desktop environment, try xfce. |
| 15:04.28 | la-o-wai | fvwm isnt desktop ? |
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| 15:05.38 | tw | merlac: by default? likely gnome shell on mutter. |
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| 15:07.17 | tw | la-o-wai: it's a window manager. It only manages windows and lets you start new ones. It doesn't help you with notifications, desktop icons, or provide a file manager. |
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| 15:15.03 | DammitJim | thanks _aeris_ |
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| 15:22.22 | merlac | nvm it's x-window-manager, because i'm using mate. the way the q above was asked made me think it's independent from the DE, which it's not though if i understood correctly |
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| 15:23.13 | rakor | Hi there! I am new to Debian and installed a standard desktop with 9 stable. Now if I open "Software" in Gnome3 it tells me, there are no Updates. But if I make an "apt upgrade" it tells me there are 9 updates to install. OK, the updates are alle libraries, but shouldn't "Software" notice there updates also? |
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| 15:24.11 | rakor | Or: What is the right way to stay up to date with a desktop-system? If I would install the system onto the pc of my wife it has to be automatically. |
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| 15:26.42 | jhutchins_wk | rakor: For the console tools, update and upgrade are different things. update refreshes the catalog, upgrade actually installs new packages. |
| 15:26.52 | anexit_ | tw: so public ips in the ipsec-tools not the gre tunnel ips. |
| 15:27.02 | anexit_ | well racoon.conf |
| 15:27.20 | jhutchins_wk | rakor: We usually don't recommend unattended upgrades. They can have unexpected consequences, including hanging because of a change notification or a need for input. |
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| 15:30.02 | n4dir | getting used to run "su; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade" after logging in seems to be the most comfortable way |
| 15:30.14 | rakor | Hey jhutchins_wk thanks for your replay. I think the problem was me... I retried and now "Software" did show the updates. |
| 15:30.47 | rakor | Now he wants to reboot to install the updates... ok, strange, but ok. |
| 15:30.57 | tw | anexit_: That's what I'm suggesting, yes. The benefit is you don't have to worry about setkey'ing each and every subnet (which used to be blasted annoying with quagga). You lose the benefit of setkey forcing the connection to those IP ranges be encrypted with require. |
| 15:31.35 | rakor | I don't need a fullautomated update. You are right, this could bring Problem, but my wife should get a notice telling her "click here and update your system" |
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| 15:35.05 | rakor | I'm getting old... I start to like Debian and Gnome :) |
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| 15:36.30 | anexit_ | tw: my config, of course the ip is roated on each end; https://pastebin.ca/3886202 |
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| 15:36.40 | DammitJim | OMG, you said the G word rakor ! |
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| 15:37.04 | rakor | DammitJim: "getting" ? :D |
| 15:37.06 | n4dir | I think it would be easy to put the 4 commands in a script and make that script autostart after login. |
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| 15:37.25 | n4dir | assuming other options fail of course, i don't know software center or such. |
| 15:37.27 | DammitJim | LOL |
| 15:38.12 | rakor | n4dir: Oh I hope Software Center can handle this. I haven't used Debian and Gnome till now. So I don't know it :D |
| 15:38.25 | rakor | DammitJim: You don't like Gnome? |
| 15:38.39 | n4dir | rakor: Yeah, i guess it can solved that way. |
| 15:39.16 | DammitJim | rakor, I don't use it, so I shouldn't say I don't like it |
| 15:39.22 | DammitJim | I just hear people teasing about it, that's all |
| 15:39.22 | rakor | DammitJim: Beeing the standard desktop I thought, it should be loved here... :) |
| 15:39.25 | anexit_ | tw: doing that kills the transport all together :D |
| 15:39.26 | DammitJim | it's got it's purpose |
| 15:39.50 | rakor | DammitJim: What are you using as wm? |
| 15:39.54 | tw | anexit_: how so? |
| 15:39.57 | DammitJim | rakor, sorry, didn't mean to offend you... it was more of a tease. I'm glad you have a tool that does what you need |
| 15:40.06 | tw | anexit_: any reason for blowfish+md5+group2 instead of aes256+sha1+group5? |
| 15:40.19 | DammitJim | oh no, let's not open that can of worms... my wm has more issues than Gnome LOL |
| 15:40.25 | DammitJim | Enlightenment |
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| 15:40.53 | tw | anexit_: same question with your phase2. |
| 15:41.09 | anexit_ | tw: can't ping either side now, running blowfish for now because its quicker but less secure |
| 15:41.19 | n4dir | lol. Yeah. Enlightenment is always troublesome, but very interesting. |
| 15:41.21 | rakor | DammitJim: Hehe, no problem. I hate GTK and I hated Gnome.... But I realy have to say (if you get used to this thing) its really useful |
| 15:41.40 | tw | You don't have intel aesni? Blowfish is slow. |
| 15:41.47 | anexit_ | so I have public ips in the ipsec-tools.conf and in the setkey (spdadd) I have the gre tunnels |
| 15:42.05 | anexit_ | negative no aesni interface |
| 15:42.07 | tw | anexit_: Regardless, if you've got the public IP in ipsec-tools.conf, can you ping the public IP? |
| 15:42.21 | anexit_ | I can ping the public ip yes |
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| 15:42.30 | tw | Is the ping encrypted? |
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| 15:43.36 | anexit_ | nope |
| 15:43.58 | anexit_ | wouldn't be because there is no SA for the public ips. |
| 15:44.23 | FinalX | rakor: there's always something like Unity to compare GNOME to :) |
| 15:44.27 | tw | Should be? That's the point of spdadd, right? |
| 15:44.32 | FinalX | would know what he'd choose |
| 15:44.32 | DammitJim | yeah, I think we work with it as needed, right rakor ? |
| 15:44.47 | DammitJim | OMG, let's totally get unity on debian |
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| 15:45.05 | FinalX | no, really, let's not :P |
| 15:45.09 | tw | Not even ubunchu supports unity anymore. |
| 15:45.29 | DammitJim | I know ;) |
| 15:45.39 | DammitJim | that's why I jokingly said it |
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| 15:45.49 | FinalX | another gnome |
| 15:45.53 | DammitJim | I do have to say that I am in love of using headless systems |
| 15:45.57 | rakor | FinalX: I really don#t like Ubuntu :) |
| 15:46.22 | anexit_ | tw: I thought it would be encrypted on the gre tunnel interfaces 10.0.3.254 and 10.0.9.254 |
| 15:46.27 | FinalX | rakor: wasn't saying that you should run it, just saying there's more awful environments to be running ;) |
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| 15:46.33 | anexit_ | so ditch those or keep them and add the publics? |
| 15:47.03 | DammitJim | so, besides compressing the heck out of a large file and transfering with scp or rsync, there is really no way of copying it from a windows to a linux machine any faster, right? |
| 15:47.05 | rakor | Somewone told me Budgie would be nice. He said "the better Gnome"... I'll have a look at it someday... But it all ist GTK.... grrrr |
| 15:47.06 | tw | anexit_: public IPs in ipsec spdadd, public IPs in gre endpoints. |
| 15:47.24 | rakor | FinalX: more awful is really possible ;) |
| 15:47.36 | tw | gre interfaces should have internal addresses. |
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| 15:48.08 | rakor | DammitJim: Using a USB-Disk? |
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| 15:48.42 | DammitJim | nah, these host machines only have usb2... they are all VMs |
| 15:49.03 | rakor | scp could be a little slower on weak machines, so I has to encrypt anything going through the tunnel |
| 15:49.05 | DammitJim | I will make sure that the VMs are in the same host... that might speed up things... |
| 15:49.45 | FinalX | rsync is about as fast as it gets, especially if you don't use ssh to tunnel it over |
| 15:49.46 | rakor | you could make a virtual drive and use it to transfer |
| 15:49.51 | FinalX | or that |
| 15:49.57 | geard | hey guys/gals, I attempting to setup a PXE server and I think i have a misunderstanding. I am following a tutorial that has me copy a pxelinux.0 from /usr/lib/syslinux but I don't see this file after installing syslinux and syslinux-common. Did this file change or am I supposed to create this file? |
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| 15:51.19 | n4dir | doesn't rsync always use ssh? |
| 15:51.26 | rakor | n4dir: nope |
| 15:51.27 | FinalX | no |
| 15:52.01 | rakor | you can use ssh to tunnel it... But in standard it is a free service |
| 15:52.07 | n4dir | which would be managed how? |
| 15:52.12 | FinalX | you can also configure ssh to use ciphers that are really weak to speed things up (and depending on how old your version is even disable it) |
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| 15:52.36 | FinalX | ...since it's local anyway |
| 15:52.47 | jhutchins_wk | n4dir: You can run an rsync daemon, info on that and using different protocols is in the manpage. |
| 15:52.49 | rakor | Running on the same host it it unnessesary to encrypt. |
| 15:53.12 | tw | ,v ipsec-tools |
| 15:53.13 | judd | Package: ipsec-tools on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:0.8.0-14+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 1:0.8.0-14+deb7u3; jessie: 1:0.8.2+20140711-2+deb8u1; jessie-security: 1:0.8.2+20140711-2+deb8u1; stretch: 1:0.8.2+20140711-8+deb9u1; buster: 1:0.8.2+20140711-10; sid: 1:0.8.2+20140711-10 |
| 15:53.18 | FinalX | rakor: that's my point, though ssh kinda demands some form of decent encryption in more recent versions, local or not |
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| 15:53.39 | tw | anexit_: I hate to set you back, but you should consider strongswan instead of ipsec-tools. |
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| 15:56.16 | anexit_ | tw: yeah, dunno why this is such a pain in the arse. I was thinking about ssh tunnels |
| 15:56.19 | jelly | tw: and maybe libreswan instead of strongswan? |
| 15:56.20 | anexit_ | https://pastebin.ca/3886210 |
| 15:56.20 | jelly | hides |
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| 15:57.51 | tw | jelly: Seems like libreswan/openswan has less community support than strongswan, but tfiik. I have to dump ipsec-tools as well on at least one group of machines. |
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| 15:58.42 | ambient | Howdy. I am trying to run a program called Cinelerra and get the following crash when I apply titles to my video: https://pastebin.com/gF6YKTnh When I run the program as root (when I also ran the GNU debugger) it works fine. It just crashes in user mode, 100% of the time when using titles. |
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| 15:59.25 | anexit_ | thinking about it... if traffic is encrypted if I ping from 10.0.11.1 -> 10.0.9.254 and vice versa.. these are routers. Traffic has to go through these so traffic should be encrypted or is it because spdadd doesn't match the packet header |
| 15:59.34 | anexit_ | ? |
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| 16:01.39 | jelly | ambient: which debian release and kernel is this? |
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| 16:04.01 | ambient | Debian stretch, the 4.10.0-37 kernel |
| 16:04.21 | jelly | ambient: what does uname -a say? |
| 16:06.58 | jelly | because it's a nonstandard kernel, not sure what else is nonstandard on that installation |
| 16:07.38 | ambient | jelly, You're right. I have a realtime kernel, but do not need it. |
| 16:07.52 | ambient | I record on devices, not the computer itself. (for video) |
| 16:07.54 | jelly | where did you get that kernel from? |
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| 16:08.26 | jelly | ambient: can you try booting the default one and using the same tool as normal user? |
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| 16:09.22 | ambient | I enabled a repository for AV Linux to get a bunch of tools I need for audio post production...but the realtime kernel I have no use for. I also hear that the realtime kernel inhibits graphics drivers, is that true? |
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| 16:09.45 | jelly | no clue about that |
| 16:10.15 | jelly | it might affect non-free gpu drivers |
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| 16:13.45 | ambient | jelly, Yeah, I need the non-free drivers for video production. I was thinking of getting this: http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/graphics/workstation/firepro-3d/wx5100 Do you think the drivers will play well with Debian? |
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| 16:14.46 | jhutchins_wk | ambient: They usually work just fine. |
| 16:14.48 | ctc_2 | jelly: hello? |
| 16:15.58 | jelly | is it tea you're looking for? |
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| 16:16.40 | ambient | jhutchins_wk, Thanks. It is a big move for me. I am looking to see if I can leave Windows behind in the video production world. |
| 16:16.57 | ctc_2 | jelly: no, just an issue no one has been able to help, even when calmly trying for few days. |
| 16:17.30 | jelly | ambient: does amd still have closed source drivers? I thought they were switching to open source drivers with closed source firmware sprinkled |
| 16:17.54 | jhutchins_wk | ambient: I hope you're keeping notes and planning to blog the process. |
| 16:19.53 | ambient | jelly, AMD has released drivers and am not sure how Libre they are. |
| 16:20.11 | ctc_2 | jelly: I was trying a still unknown cloud service named Adrive. I created a plain text file with vim editor and named it "TestB" without extension. Logged in to Adrive web interface with Firefox, uploaded TestB, and tried to preview it in new tab. Result: I was asked if I wanted to download that "BIN" file. |
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| 16:20.57 | ctc_2 | This result made me nervous. Could it be a "common" behavior with cloud services (dropbox, google drive...)? Did I put my Linux OS at harm risk? |
| 16:21.05 | ambient | jhutchins_wk, The best candidate for video editing is Blender, which has an NLE built in. However, it is not user-friendly and requires a powerful graphics card. Cinelerra-GG is impressive and a professional tool, but all three versions I tried crash. |
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| 16:21.46 | ambient | jhutchins_wk, However, the lead developer of Cinelerra is quite helpful and we are trying to figure out the issue. |
| 16:21.48 | jelly | ctc_2: downloading a file does not put your installation at risk |
| 16:22.44 | jelly | ambient: is there perchance anything interesting in dmesg when that core dumps? |
| 16:23.21 | ctc_2 | jelly: although that file was created by myself, with just random text in it, I expected for web interface to be able to preview it in a new tab even without a .txt extension. Default editor on Debian is able to with no problem! |
| 16:23.32 | ctc_2 | Also, a BIN file!? |
| 16:23.36 | ambient | jelly, ugh...I will have to parse through that. You are right... |
| 16:23.38 | ctc_2 | WTH? |
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| 16:23.45 | n4dir | ctc_2: isn't the most easy solution to delete that file at adrive, upload it again, and this time with an according file-ending? |
| 16:24.14 | jelly | ctc_2: bin as in "I do not know which format this file is in, so let's treat it as generic binary data"? |
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| 16:25.11 | ctc_2 | jelly, n4dir: I have already seen web interface can preview txt files, but this mistake I did just worried me a lot |
| 16:25.28 | ctc_2 | Actually my mistake was totally forgetting to add it the txt extension |
| 16:25.30 | jelly | ctc_2: your browser tries to treat a download according to the MIME type provided by the remote web server. It's possible the remote web server uses a generic mime type, possibly relying on file extension to guess. |
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| 16:26.01 | ctc_2 | jelly: and that does not cause any risk to my OS? |
| 16:26.08 | ctc_2 | Browser used is Firefox |
| 16:26.16 | jelly | ctc_2: you're just downliading a file. You're not executing it. |
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| 16:26.32 | jelly | ctc_2: there's a risk of filling up disk space, I guess |
| 16:26.55 | jhutchins_wk | ctc_2: The root cause is how the remote server is configured. |
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| 16:27.20 | ctc_2 | ouch |
| 16:27.23 | jelly | right, you can get similar symptoms downloading from a misconfigured apache http server |
| 16:27.24 | ctc_2 | ok, thanks all.... |
| 16:27.33 | jelly | do not panic |
| 16:27.39 | ctc_2 | !!!! |
| 16:27.39 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 16:28.04 | ctc_2 | ^ aahh, so i'm sick |
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| 16:28.12 | ctc_2 | well, not surprised |
| 16:28.23 | ctc_2 | dpkg: hello. |
| 16:28.23 | dpkg | Hi, ctc_2! |
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| 16:30.29 | hellyeah | jessie is not old stable right? |
| 16:31.05 | towo` | jessie is old stable, since stretch is stable |
| 16:31.09 | jim | yes it is |
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| 16:31.31 | jim | question... what does this mean: http://termbin.com/iqib |
| 16:31.31 | hellyeah | i see thanks |
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| 16:32.28 | jim | hellyeah, oldstable is on the normal mirrors, but on the next release, it goes to the archive mirrors |
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| 16:34.43 | jelly | jim: or not, because LTS |
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| 16:36.44 | jelly | so right now it's "release goes to archive after about 5 years of life" |
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| 16:37.40 | dcaxq | hi.. i was here before about fn key that I want to change the function. how can i do that? |
| 16:37.48 | dcaxq | somiaj: hi |
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| 16:39.27 | dcaxq | ._______. |
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| 16:40.01 | dcaxq | i dont have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d directory.. any idea why? |
| 16:40.17 | jelly | dcaxq: create it, it does not exist by default |
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| 16:41.30 | dcaxq | and what about /etc/acpi/ ? |
| 16:41.54 | dcaxq | I don't have anything in /etc/acpi/ except events(directory: 0 files) |
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| 16:42.55 | jelly | that's probably fine as well |
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| 16:43.48 | cybrNaut | how might I know which /var/lib/* subdirectories should be copied in a migration? |
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| 16:44.07 | dcaxq | jelly: i have XFCE and there is Power Manager in settings and there there is option "Ask" in When sleep button is pressed. Any idea how to change the function of it? To open a script for example? |
| 16:44.16 | cybrNaut | some apps have config data in there which would be painful to re-create |
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| 16:47.22 | dcaxq | any idea jelly ? |
| 16:47.37 | cybrNaut | should't the /apt/ suite of tools keep track of which /var/lib data will auto re-generate? |
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| 16:56.40 | bitlan | "PHP Warning: PHP Driver for "mysql" database doesn't seems to be loaded. in" |
| 16:56.56 | bitlan | debian 9, with LAMP... in phpinfo() everthing is ok |
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| 16:57.02 | bitlan | any ideas? |
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| 16:57.09 | jhutchins_wk | bitlan: mod_php? |
| 16:57.27 | bitlan | on apache ? |
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| 16:57.33 | bitlan | php working via web |
| 16:57.47 | bitlan | ~# php -m | grep mysql |
| 16:57.47 | bitlan | mysqli |
| 16:57.47 | bitlan | mysqlnd |
| 16:57.47 | bitlan | pdo_mysql |
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| 16:58.09 | Delf | Switching to lightdm while using gnome-shell is not a viable option for multi-seat in stretch. |
| 16:58.28 | jhutchins_wk | bitlan: I know there are some new methods of supporting it with apache 2.4 and php 7. |
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| 16:58.48 | Delf | Unable to lock screen, even with light-locker. The "screensaver" doesn't come on either. |
| 16:58.55 | jhutchins_wk | bitlan: We've continued to use mod_php, but there are fastCGI options as well. |
| 16:59.25 | Delf | And when logging out, loginctl shows that one is still in and there are processes running, the session does not get closed. |
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| 17:00.38 | bitlan | jhutchins_wk: i installed standard by ... apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php php-mysql... but without success...i don't know. yesterday i installed by the same combination without problems.. |
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| 17:02.13 | jhutchins_wk | ,v libapache2-mod-php7.0 |
| 17:02.14 | judd | Package: libapache2-mod-php7.0 on amd64 -- stretch: 7.0.19-1; buster: 7.0.22-3; sid: 7.0.22-3 |
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| 17:03.35 | jhutchins_wk | bitlan: http://wiki.debian.org/PHP |
| 17:03.37 | dcaxq | welp ;O |
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| 17:04.10 | cybrNaut | anyone who migrates needs to specifically remember to copy /var/lib/bitlbee |
| 17:04.18 | cybrNaut | imo debian should remember that for me, somehow |
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| 17:04.57 | n4dir | what do you mean with "migrate" ? |
| 17:05.02 | jhutchins_wk | cybrNaut: It's not clear what you mean by migration. |
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| 17:05.43 | eschmidbauer | hi |
| 17:05.58 | eschmidbauer | i get this warning from docker CE on debian 8 |
| 17:05.58 | eschmidbauer | WARN[2017-10-10T17:26:43.812779094-06:00] Your kernel does not support cgroup rt runtime |
| 17:06.08 | eschmidbauer | does anyone know how to enable cgroup rt runtime? |
| 17:06.15 | jim | jelly, what were you saying about jessie and it going to the archive mirrors when the next debian drops? |
| 17:06.45 | cybrNaut | i installed a new debian system from scratch |
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| 17:06.53 | cybrNaut | on a new drive |
| 17:07.06 | cybrNaut | (as opposed to doing a dist-upgrade) |
| 17:07.13 | jim | you used a scratch to do it? |
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| 17:07.36 | eschmidbauer | jimi1: you asking me? |
| 17:07.37 | cybrNaut | jim: not sure what you mean. i used netinst |
| 17:08.00 | n4dir | cybrNaut: where does migration come into this? |
| 17:08.10 | dcaxq | i have XFCE and there is Power Manager in settings and there there is option "Ask" in When sleep button is pressed. Any idea how to change the function of it? To open a script for example? |
| 17:08.20 | cybrNaut | n4dir: at the same time, I'm migrating from Jessie to Stretch |
| 17:08.20 | mutante | cybrNaut: how about bitlbee uses the home dir to store user info instead |
| 17:08.32 | jim | cybrNaut, oh ok... what had you do that instead of upgrading? |
| 17:10.04 | n4dir | cybrNaut: you installed jessie or stretch? stop using the term "migrate", or explain what it means? |
| 17:10.11 | cybrNaut | mutante: bitlbee is a daemon that's launched from /etc/init.d, so (i think) all local users can connect to it and supply config data through the UI. Normally databased data goes in /var/lib |
| 17:10.32 | jim | is there a part of wayland that's analogous to the xorg server (that generates the video, listens to keyboard and pointer, etc)? |
| 17:10.51 | mutante | cybrNaut: but as long as it knows which user is sending data, it could still use the appropriate home dir, no? |
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| 17:10.58 | cybrNaut | n4dir: jessie was already installed from years past, which has all the data. All that data must go to the new (stretch) system |
| 17:11.41 | cybrNaut | mutante: wouldn't the user have to give write permissions to another user in their $HOME for that? |
| 17:12.03 | jim | cybrNaut, if it's still intact, you could still upgrade it if you wanted to |
| 17:12.18 | cybrNaut | (assuming the daemon runs as user bitlbee, for example) |
| 17:12.28 | n4dir | how a new installatio of debian is supposed to "remember" settings, is beyond me |
| 17:12.29 | mutante | cybrNaut: hmm, good point, since that daemon should not be running as root i suppose. yea |
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| 17:13.36 | jim | n4dir, for one, it remembers the answers to your questions you supplied while you installed |
| 17:13.42 | cybrNaut | n4dir: it wouldn't matter to me if the remembering were on the part of the old installation |
| 17:14.01 | jim | due to Joey Hess's debconf |
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| 17:14.35 | cybrNaut | i think it's a misplaced resposibility for admins to figure out which /var/lib data autogenerates |
| 17:15.17 | cybrNaut | debian should track that somehow.. perhaps create /var/lib/auto and /var/lib/nonauto, and push package developers to use them |
| 17:15.19 | jhutchins_wk | cybrNaut: I think you have a very inaccurate idea of the processes involved. |
| 17:15.52 | jhutchins_wk | cybrNaut: You should figure out what's actually happening. |
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| 17:16.52 | cybrNaut | jhutchins_wk: i'm not sure what specifically you're saying needs to be figured out. I know that bitlbee is putting user-generated config data in /var/lib, i have no question about that |
| 17:17.16 | n4dir | It won't help much to make proposals how debian should do things *here*, a channel for user support, anyway. |
| 17:17.21 | cybrNaut | and exceptionally, it's the only /var/lib data on my system that would not autogenerate |
| 17:17.29 | cybrNaut | AFAIK |
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| 17:18.03 | cybrNaut | n4dir: my expectation is that someone would say "no, it shouldn't do that, because there is mechanism X to do what you want" |
| 17:18.07 | jhutchins_wk | cybrNaut: I would assume that bitlbee is capable of creating users who don't have local accounts on the host, it makes sense that it would keep that data in it's own hierarchy. |
| 17:18.23 | n4dir | cybrNaut: ah ok, got it. |
| 17:18.50 | jhutchins_wk | !lfhs |
| 17:18.51 | dpkg | Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard, or "man hier". |
| 17:19.18 | jhutchins_wk | cybrNaut: You can read that for an understanding of what goes where why. |
| 17:19.20 | cybrNaut | jhutchins_wk: ah, indeed.. it would need to handle remote user data too. |
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| 17:20.40 | cybrNaut | jhutchins_wk: /var/lib seems appropriate in this case, but this only reinforces my original problem: that there is no mechanism to track the data that should be backed up |
| 17:21.23 | jhutchins_wk | cybrNaut: If you're migrating a program's configuration to a new version on a new host, you want to copy over the existing configuration before you install it. There's some hope then that the program will see an older version of the configuration and import it rather than just choking on incompatible settings. |
| 17:22.00 | jhutchins_wk | cybrNaut: That's why we still have admins. |
| 17:22.06 | jhutchins_wk | cybrNaut: Until you design the mechanism... |
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| 17:22.37 | mutante | not sure if i'd want to let a program decide for me what i want in backup |
| 17:23.09 | jhutchins_wk | mutante: He has a point that you could detect files which have changed since install and therefore need to be backed up. |
| 17:23.12 | mutante | but yea, if there was some way to let that store user data in each home dir |
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| 17:23.37 | jhutchins_wk | mutante: That would only work for users who had local accounts. |
| 17:23.51 | mutante | true, yea,, but isnt there software for that, just usually used for intrusion detection and such |
| 17:24.03 | mutante | that create checksum for each file and track the changes |
| 17:24.31 | jhutchins_wk | Debian does have the concept that if a config file has been altered it shouldn't be overwritten (RPM does this too). |
| 17:26.12 | jhutchins_wk | Come to think of it, I think Windows tracks whether a file has been altered since the last backup. |
| 17:27.21 | JPT | Back in the days, there was this "Archive" flag. I cannot find it on Windows 10 though. Might be somewhere else - if still existing |
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| 17:29.00 | dcaxq | asd |
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| 17:31.16 | jhutchins_wk | JPT: Just so, NTFS feature I think. |
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| 17:38.21 | bitlan | jhutchins_wk: look that http://bitlan.com.pl/php/error.txt and http://bitlan.com.pl/php/phpinfo.html |
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| 17:49.30 | phinxy | ,v cmus |
| 17:49.31 | judd | Package: cmus on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.4.3-2+deb7u1; jessie: 2.5.0-7+b1; buster: 2.7.1+git20160225-1+b2; sid: 2.7.1+git20160225-1+b2; stretch: 2.7.1+git20160225-1+b2; stretch-multimedia: 1:2.8.0~rc0-dmo4; buster-multimedia: 1:2.8.0~rc0-dmo5; sid-multimedia: 1:2.8.0~rc0-dmo5 |
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| 17:53.38 | alhadi | hello |
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| 17:59.43 | Longview | Wow, debian is great. |
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| 18:00.05 | Longview | I also use getnoo which is nice too. |
| 18:00.24 | jelly | dpkg, greet alhadi |
| 18:00.24 | dpkg | Howdy, alhadi |
| 18:00.24 | mutante | Longview: amazed how much time you have left after not compiling all day ?:) |
| 18:01.03 | Longview | haha, I use gentoo on my 8 core laptop and debian on my single cpu systems. |
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| 18:05.00 | Longview | When I got my new laptop it took me three days to get to grip with gentoo. My first use of debian was years ago before gentoo but I really like to build system on gentoo. |
| 18:05.50 | awal1 | Longview, do you have any question , debian related? |
| 18:06.38 | jelly | !offtopic |
| 18:06.38 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 18:06.44 | Longview | is the latest stable kernel vmlinuz-4.9.0-4-amd64 |
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| 18:06.51 | jelly | yes |
| 18:06.56 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 18:06.57 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.14.0-rc3-686-pae (4.14~rc3-1~exp1); sid: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.4-1); buster: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.4-1); stretch-backports: 4.12.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.12.13-1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-4-686 (4.9.51-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u5~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u5); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae |
| 18:06.58 | judd | (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.93-1) |
| 18:07.09 | Longview | cool tahnks |
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| 18:25.31 | vegenaise | debian jessie with openbox, having an issue in which in my power settings i have it set to never turn the display off when on ac, however, when i extend the desktop to a 2nd display, or set the 2nd display as my main desktop and deactivate my laptop display, it'll turn off after about 15min of no use (watching a movie, for ex.) |
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| 18:25.36 | dexta | evening |
| 18:25.56 | vegenaise | the gui uses mate-power-preferences as the app |
| 18:26.51 | vegenaise | im a linux n00b but would appreciate any help to fix this issue |
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| 18:33.32 | nix64bit | i have a backup drive that I cant mount with the error "can't read superblock" |
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| 18:34.24 | nix64bit | it was working up till recently |
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| 18:39.57 | jhutchins_wk | vegenaise: Depending on what video player you use, it may have a setting/function to keep the "idle" screen alive. |
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| 18:40.32 | nix64bit | fsck -y /dev/sdd3 |
| 18:40.35 | nix64bit | worked |
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| 18:41.04 | vegenaise | i was using chrome to stream with plex, jhutchins_wk |
| 18:41.08 | nix64bit | its a bit strange that it died though |
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| 18:43.33 | NTQ | Hi. I am using a small only-console debian image für my beaglebone and sometimes it shuts down. After starting up again I unfortunality can not see the kernel logs of the last session. I only get the logs of the curent session in /var/log. How can I set it up so that the system memorizes the logs from the last session? |
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| 18:44.15 | annadane | NTQ, mkdir /var/log/journal |
| 18:44.21 | annadane | will give you persistent journalctl |
| 18:44.51 | jhutchins_wk | annadane: Don't you also have to enable it with a sysctl or journalctl command? |
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| 18:45.24 | annadane | jhutchins_wk, not as far as i know? |
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| 18:45.45 | jhutchins_wk | https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/journald.conf.html |
| 18:46.25 | annadane | i know i didn't have to do anything special to get it across boots |
| 18:46.48 | jhutchins_wk | Then again, this says it's sufficient to create the folder: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journald.service.html |
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| 18:47.20 | jhutchins_wk | systemd features can be ... inconsistent. They change rapidly. |
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| 18:47.47 | annadane | that being said i think this was when i was using sid... |
| 18:48.15 | vegenaise | think i may have figured out my issue with my screen turning off after 10 min |
| 18:48.27 | vegenaise | can anyone recommend a gui rdp app to remote from my debian machine to a win10 machine. was using remmina but it stopped working for some reason. dont want to do teamviewer if i dont have to |
| 18:49.09 | towo` | remmina is working great here |
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| 18:49.17 | vegenaise | :( |
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| 18:49.30 | towo` | but you could even use plain freerdp |
| 18:49.48 | towo` | and "it stopped working" is saying zero |
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| 18:53.41 | vegenaise | towo`, i installed freerdp via apt-get, but i cant figure out how to launch it. it installed freerdp-x11 and libxfreerdp-client1.1, but entering either of those in terminal won't launch it |
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| 18:54.41 | jhutchins_wk | vegenaise: There are a bunch of rdp and vnc clients/servers, but forwarding a whole desktop is not very efficient. Why not just forward the program(s) you need? |
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| 18:55.05 | vegenaise | and, in regards to remmina stopping working, the app launches fine, but when i try to connect to my win10 machine, it'll pop up the remote screen for maybe 1 sec, then it closes. i can tell the machine is still on though because other services still work (plex, deluge daemon, etc) |
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| 18:56.12 | sear | how do i install a new font after i copied it into the fonts folder? |
| 18:56.15 | jhutchins_wk | vegenaise: WHt do the logs say? |
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| 18:56.26 | vegenaise | jhutchins_wk, because im very much linux n00b. most of the time i'll remote in to copy/paste a file into a syncthing folder so i can get it to the other machine/s that i want it on, but sometimes i'll remote in to add programs to it, etc |
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| 18:57.25 | vegenaise | jhutchins_wk, can you tell me how to access the remmina logs? the debug window stays blank when i attempt to connect |
| 18:58.00 | mtn | sear: generally you install fonts using the package manager. it does all the work for you ;) |
| 18:58.38 | sear | what if the font is not there? |
| 18:58.51 | sear | are there any free futura alternatives? |
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| 18:59.37 | mtn | sear: did you look? do that first before downloading from the net |
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| 19:01.23 | jhutchins_wk | vegenaise: I don't know remmina, but logs are usually somewhere in /var/log |
| 19:01.36 | jhutchins_wk | vegenaise: You may have to turn them on in a configuration file. |
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| 19:02.06 | sear | i didn't find anything |
| 19:02.18 | jhutchins_wk | vegenaise: For transfering files, scp or rsync work great. You can install cygwin on your windows box and you'll have a functional linux console (and X desktop if you want). |
| 19:02.44 | jhutchins_wk | vegenaise: There are other options, like xming, which allow remote X programs to display on Windows. |
| 19:03.07 | jhutchins_wk | !fonts |
| 19:03.07 | dpkg | Fonts available as Debian packages are automatically configured for use via <defoma>. To add user-supplied fonts to a Debian system, ask me about <install font> or see http://wiki.debian.org/Fonts . For general font information, see http://www.nwalsh.com/comp.fonts/FAQ/ . See also <liberation>, <mscorefonts>, <ttf>. |
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| 19:04.08 | jhutchins_wk | vegenaise: WinSCP is a native Windows app to transfer files graplically to/from a linux system. |
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| 19:05.34 | vegenaise | really i just want to remote in and move files around on the win machine. syncthing can do the rest. can i ssh in to the win box and use basic linux terminal commands to copy/paste/delete, etc? |
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| 19:06.50 | vegenaise | it looks like winscp would allow for that. if only i could remote in and install it xD (running the machine headless) |
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| 19:08.41 | jhutchins_wk | vegenaise: Well, you could run sshd in cygwin, or there are daemons for ssh for windows. Connecting to cygwin the file structure is a bit awkward. |
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| 19:09.10 | jhutchins_wk | vegenaise: If the remote machine is the Windows machine, rdp or vpn makes more sense. |
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| 19:09.37 | dcaxq | hello |
| 19:09.38 | jhutchins_wk | !rdp |
| 19:09.38 | dpkg | The proprietary Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) is used to connect to systems running Microsoft Remote Desktop Services (formerly Terminal Services), providing features similar to <VNC>. RDP clients packaged for Debian include <freerdp>, <rdesktop>, <remmina> and <tsclient>. For a RDP server, ask me about <xrdp>. |
| 19:09.43 | dcaxq | i have XFCE and there is Power Manager in settings and there there is option "Ask" in When sleep button is pressed. Any idea how to change the function of it? To open a script for example? |
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| 19:10.05 | vegenaise | hmm rdesktop, will look into that too |
| 19:10.11 | jhutchins_wk | !xfce |
| 19:10.11 | dpkg | Xfce is a pretty nifty Desktop Environment. Lightweight, fast, compact. To install, ask me about <install xfce>. https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce http://wiki.xfce.org/faq http://www.xfce.org/ #xfce on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 19:10.35 | jhutchins_wk | dcaxq: Not as many people in #xfce, but they know the software better. |
| 19:11.31 | dcaxq | jhutchins_wk: this is not related to xfce |
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| 19:12.19 | jhutchins_wk | dcaxq: If you say so. |
| 19:12.21 | vegenaise | got this with freedrp in the terminal "The disconnection was initiated by the user logging off his or her session on the server" |
| 19:12.36 | vegenaise | so maybe something on the win side of things, maybe remmina works fine |
| 19:12.42 | dcaxq | jhutchins_wk: my bad. although it's related i hope i will get an answer here |
| 19:12.43 | dcaxq | also |
| 19:12.44 | annadane | it might be related to xfce. AFAIK you can specify things quite easily in xfce settings |
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| 19:12.52 | jhutchins_wk | vegenaise: Yeah, server has to be able to initiate a session, the default is to connect to an existing session. |
| 19:13.00 | dcaxq | annadane: hello!! i looked and i can't do that in the settings |
| 19:13.03 | dcaxq | also |
| 19:13.11 | dcaxq | does anyone know how to make tap to click work? |
| 19:13.40 | annadane | dcaxq, it does sound like a more specific xfce question for which you might be able to ask in irc or a forum |
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| 19:15.03 | jhutchins_wk | dcaxq: I think there's something in the synaptics docs. |
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| 19:15.42 | jhutchins_wk | vegenaise: THat could be what was wrong with remmina as well. |
| 19:15.55 | dcaxq | jhutchins_wk: do you know where? |
| 19:16.22 | SuperTramp83 | dcaxq: mouse and touchpad - devices - tap to click ? |
| 19:16.25 | jhutchins_wk | dcaxq: Start with /usr/share/doc/synaptic* |
| 19:16.59 | dcaxq | SuperTramp83: i dont have it |
| 19:16.59 | jhutchins_wk | dcaxq: There might also be manpages, "apropos synaptic" should show them. |
| 19:17.15 | dcaxq | :< |
| 19:17.20 | SuperTramp83 | dcaxq: install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics |
| 19:17.44 | dcaxq | SuperTramp83: and then what? |
| 19:18.10 | SuperTramp83 | then log out and back and you should have it in opyions as above |
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| 19:18.21 | SuperTramp83 | *options |
| 19:18.21 | dcaxq | can't logout now.. but thanks |
| 19:18.29 | SuperTramp83 | yw |
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| 19:28.19 | dcaxq | hi |
| 19:28.30 | dcaxq | does anyone know how to disable windows key + space as switch language? |
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| 19:32.20 | ee | Hi. Is there any currency converter program for debian? Supporting bitcoin would be nice. |
| 19:33.07 | dcaxq | ee: what do you mean? |
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| 19:34.12 | ee | dcaxq: Input USD and convert it to EUR for example |
| 19:35.15 | dTal | GNU Units is in Debian and supports currency conversion |
| 19:35.20 | dcaxq | not really #debian question but you can find with google |
| 19:35.24 | dcaxq | i think so.. |
| 19:35.34 | dcaxq | but there are many script you can do to convert it |
| 19:36.08 | vegenaise | think i figured it out jhutchins_wk, found the remote logs on the win10 machine, and i think its closing the connection because remmina and freerdrp use an older version of the rdp protocol than the win machine wants |
| 19:36.16 | ee | dcaxq: So tell me dcaxq why is this not a question for the #Debian channel? |
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| 19:40.29 | dcaxq | ee: i think so but dont take it as a word.. also there is KEuroCalc (KDE), units(which seems not convert fine as google) |
| 19:40.45 | dcaxq | but i believe there are scripts you can find in google |
| 19:40.52 | dcaxq | or code your own.. |
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| 19:42.11 | ee | dcaxq: Then why do you tell me it's not a question for #Debian when it is? |
| 19:42.38 | ee | dcaxq: Ok, will check. Thank you. |
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| 19:43.33 | dcaxq | ee: units seem not to do the job. i tested it for you and looked over update currency (https://www.gnu.org/software/units/manual/units.html#Currency) they tell to run units_cur and when I run i get some error .. it try to parse some tags from url and that url is dead |
| 19:43.47 | dcaxq | i believe modify the url and probably add bitcoin might work too |
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| 19:52.36 | Delf | Touchpad is not working :(Compaq Mini 110c-1100) |
| 19:53.22 | Delf | The wifi started working after installing firmware-b43-installer⦠Can't seem to get the touchpad to work and I don't see any complains in dmesg. Any clue? |
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| 19:56.22 | somiaj | Delf: for the touchpad check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and maybe install and see what the output of xinput gives |
| 19:56.29 | somiaj | Delf: assuming you mean using the touchpad in x. |
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| 19:58.43 | Delf | There are a number of keyboard types and no mouse types |
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| 19:59.38 | somiaj | Delf: sounds like xorg is not detecting the touchpad at all. Some touch pads have a hardware switch that turns them on/off or a biso setting, sure this isn't the issue? |
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| 20:00.52 | Delf | Nothing in bios regarding touchpad or even keyboard. Also, I've tried the fn button and hit almost every key, to no avail |
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| 20:02.45 | muse | just a reminder that they changed from synaptics touchpad handler to a new package in stretch. the name escapes me. insomething |
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| 20:03.44 | dcaxq | somiaj: any idea about super+space changing language? because i set scroll lock to change language: https://imgur.com/a/wAxZG |
| 20:03.55 | Delf | xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, xserver-xorg-input-libinput? Both of those are installed |
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| 20:08.43 | dcaxq | hi |
| 20:08.49 | dcaxq | i want to install arc-theme but im getting error: W: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Horst3180/Debian_8.0 Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A7D1D38BEB6D886 W: The repository 'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Horst3180/Debian_8.0 Release' is not signed. N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefor |
| 20:08.56 | dcaxq | is there any risk doing it? |
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| 20:11.17 | towo` | sure there is |
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| 20:11.26 | muse | to get my mouse working properly, I had to purge xserver-xorg-input-all and xserver-xorg-input-libinput, and install xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-kbd and xserver-xorg-input-mouse. and reboot. |
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| 20:12.02 | towo` | dcaxq, and themes you should install in your home directory instead of adding useless 3rd party repos |
| 20:12.48 | dcaxq | what is the risk? |
| 20:13.22 | towo` | any 3rd party repo is a risk |
| 20:13.53 | RoyK | potentially |
| 20:14.04 | annadane | both in terms of incompatibility issues and just trusting the owner of the repository |
| 20:14.15 | annadane | i avoid those like the plague |
| 20:14.16 | towo` | and for a desktop theme, it does not make any sense |
| 20:14.26 | dcaxq | what is the isk? |
| 20:14.28 | dcaxq | risk* |
| 20:14.30 | annadane | (that said, plenty of people have wine staging repos) |
| 20:14.38 | dcaxq | if i already installed.. |
| 20:14.46 | RoyK | dcaxq: messed up dpkg, rooted machine, etc |
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| 20:15.23 | dcaxq | how to undo? |
| 20:15.46 | RoyK | dcaxq: let me just setup a small repo for a little thing that also has a new version of glibc and let me see how I can get into other computers ;) |
| 20:15.51 | towo` | reinstall your system |
| 20:16.03 | dcaxq | no :< |
| 20:16.10 | RoyK | just apt purge <package> |
| 20:16.12 | RoyK | it should do |
| 20:16.14 | towo` | it's the only way for trust |
| 20:16.18 | dcaxq | but i want arc-theme |
| 20:16.21 | RoyK | did the package install more stuff? |
| 20:16.25 | dcaxq | the window manager looks very good |
| 20:16.26 | RoyK | any dependencies? |
| 20:16.29 | dcaxq | RoyK: yes |
| 20:16.33 | RoyK | which ones? |
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| 20:16.39 | dcaxq | i exit terminal.. is there a way to see? |
| 20:16.49 | RoyK | no idea |
| 20:17.35 | awal1 | any suggestion about how I can make xfce-power-management display a pop-up window asking if I really want to power off my machine at 5% battery level as I set it in settings openbox - fvwm)? |
| 20:18.14 | awal1 | any suggestion about how I can make xfce-power-management display a pop-up window asking if I really want to power off my machine at 5% battery level as I set it in settings (running openbox / fvwm)? |
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| 20:19.39 | dcaxq | RoyK: http://termbin.com/ko1u |
| 20:20.13 | dcaxq | awal1: there is #xfce channel |
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| 20:22.38 | RoyK | dcaxq: just purge the lot |
| 20:22.47 | annadane | as a general rule you don't need a repository for software |
| 20:23.07 | dcaxq | but nothing install bad thing |
| 20:23.09 | annadane | ...not available in the debian repo, i mean |
| 20:23.30 | annadane | (feel free to use the actual Debian Approved stuff...) |
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| 20:23.53 | annadane | and themes especially you shouldn't need a repository for |
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| 20:25.04 | RoyK | annadane: but then, if you've been a sysadmin for some years, you know that the general rule only applies to "most" systems with "the usual" software, and quite often you'll need software outside of debian's repos |
| 20:25.15 | annadane | well, sure, but it's still a trust thing |
| 20:25.26 | dcaxq | RoyK: are you sysadmin? |
| 20:25.30 | annadane | being a sysadmin doesn't protect you from your own stupidity in any event |
| 20:25.38 | RoyK | dcaxq: have been for 20ish years, yes |
| 20:25.44 | dcaxq | can i pm you? |
| 20:25.56 | RoyK | go on |
| 20:26.04 | annadane | for "most users" you shouldn't use 3rd party repos, just like for experienced sysadmins you can *probably* mix stable, testing, unstable and experimental packages; doesn't mean it should be recommended as general advice |
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| 20:29.30 | mrjayribs | I'm trying to access a pdf and the file says that only Adobe Reader can use that file...could I download AR on Debian 9? |
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| 20:30.24 | mrjayribs | nevermind. |
| 20:30.50 | mrjayribs | Some answers come to you way you say a question. |
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| 20:32.19 | annadane | mrjayribs, i'd actually like to know your solution |
| 20:32.23 | towo` | adobe reader for linux is stone old, 32bit only and do propably not work anymore on debian stable, because of missing dependencies |
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| 20:33.45 | hicks_ | I'd just try evince or okular on it |
| 20:34.07 | dcaxq | but he said adobe reader required.. |
| 20:34.13 | dcaxq | mrjayribs: how did you fix it? |
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| 20:34.33 | hicks_ | was that an error when opening it? or just on the download page/associated text file or something? |
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| 20:37.16 | magnulu | I installed stretch on a ssd, and now after connecting 2 additional hdds to my system the bootloader apparently gets confused and wont boot (tries to mount some of the other disks as /dev/sda1 it seems) |
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| 20:37.49 | magnulu | would this be a solution?: boot, plug in the hdds and run 'grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg' |
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| 20:38.26 | brontosaurusrex_ | hicks_: or firefox or chrome(ium) |
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| 20:38.50 | Delf | muse: I don't know how I would do that without violating dependencies |
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| 20:41.33 | DavePage | In Debian 8, I used /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to set interface names based on MAC addresses - it seems this is no longer read in Debian 9. Any idea how I can set interface names? |
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| 20:44.22 | dcaxq | hi |
| 20:44.37 | dcaxq | on power and getting on lightdm i have options |
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| 20:44.55 | dcaxq | i dont remember |
| 20:44.59 | durg | not sure how it works automatically but you can always use ip link set dev eno1 name eno2 |
| 20:45.59 | muse | Delf, yeh, I remember there were some dependency issues when I did that, and I don't remember how I got around them. But it works fine now and my mouse is fully configuable again as it was in Jessie. |
| 20:47.47 | Delf | muse: Mouse, not touchpad? |
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| 20:49.05 | muse | Delf, yes, but it should be related. |
| 20:49.39 | Delf | No idea what to do anymore |
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| 20:50.46 | dcaxq | does anyone know how to monitor file opened when clicking on some shortcut key?(super+space) my aim/goal is to find the configuratin file and cancel that key. that key is switch language and i setuped already my key https://imgur.com/a/wAxZG so why i have option to switch with super+space? help plz |
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| 20:51.06 | muse | I believe Debian is getting ready for the transition to Wayland, and changing input methods, which will be painful for a while. |
| 20:51.30 | somiaj | muse: there are two things going on there. One is the switch to libinput which is independent of waylend. |
| 20:52.24 | dcaxq | somiaj: anyidea how? |
| 20:53.05 | muse | somiaj, oh, ok. I thought it was part of the transition. |
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| 20:54.53 | tw | inotifywait -m . I don't think it'll give you the PID that opened it, but you can use that to run a lsof search for the file. |
| 20:55.00 | tw | from inotify-tools |
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| 20:55.15 | dcaxq | how? |
| 20:55.54 | dcaxq | the file keyboard-layout.xml have value grp:sclk_toggle which is scroll lock. but i dont see windowskey/super+space there.. |
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| 20:56.22 | dcaxq | i was able to "override" but i want to "remove" that key |
| 20:56.31 | dcaxq | plz someone help me? |
| 20:56.33 | tw | Are you monitoring a specific file? |
| 20:56.52 | datasmurf | i think you should try the guys of the DE that you use dcaxq |
| 20:57.02 | dcaxq | i tried |
| 20:57.03 | datasmurf | guys = channel |
| 20:57.05 | dcaxq | and i asked |
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| 20:58.49 | annadane | datasmurf, https://wiki.debian.org/DesktopEnvironment |
| 20:59.11 | annadane | i use plasma, and i like it a lot, but it's very much subjective |
| 20:59.44 | Delf | Should I try buster? :P |
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| 21:01.20 | happ | hi |
| 21:01.26 | bigfoot547 | hey happ |
| 21:01.28 | happ | i am trying to set ulimit on core dumps |
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| 21:02.00 | happ | i made changes to /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 21:02.09 | happ | for some reason, when i logon using KDE it sees the changes, but when i ssh in, it doesnt |
| 21:02.11 | annadane | Delf, i don't know what your problem is but you can probably solve it in stable |
| 21:02.23 | mrjayribs | annadane, dcaxq, sorry I actually found that really old verision of adobe and of course it didn't work. |
| 21:02.24 | annadane | using testing comes with risks and is almost never needed to solve technical issues |
| 21:02.34 | happ | how can i make my settings be applied even for processes that are not directly spawned by ssh? |
| 21:02.51 | mrjayribs | I'm think about using Wine, which has never worked.. but if not that I have windows boot loader |
| 21:03.05 | Delf | annadane: Touchpad is not working |
| 21:03.12 | annadane | mrjayribs, or set up a virtual machine running windows |
| 21:03.37 | annadane | mrjayribs, https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=3156 |
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| 21:04.20 | annadane | issue with WINE is it's fairly large in terms of footprint, it's like 150 MB+ of packages |
| 21:04.24 | datasmurf | dcaxq: you can try to find the file with find |
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| 21:04.44 | datasmurf | #find . -amin -1 |
| 21:05.05 | Hooloovo0 | I mean, 150Mb is much much smaller than an alternative |
| 21:05.31 | annadane | but honestly you should just be able to use free software |
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| 21:05.40 | Hooloovo0 | (all? wouldn't be surprised if there were one smaller) |
| 21:05.44 | annadane | i'd be surprised if that message were correct, that you "need adobe reader" |
| 21:05.45 | Hooloovo0 | yes, that |
| 21:05.51 | datasmurf | or replace . with your your home dir |
| 21:06.07 | dcaxq | datasmurf: how can I find it? |
| 21:06.35 | dcaxq | How can I find it if I don't know what is the file I am looking for? |
| 21:07.13 | datasmurf | well do your thing to set or what ever short cut and then run find ~ -amin -1 in terminal - read the man - on how to find a modifiaction in the filesystem less then 1 minute ago |
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| 21:07.36 | datasmurf | if i have understand your question correct - sorry i had a couple of beers |
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| 21:08.30 | mrjayribs | annadane: yeah I don't get it either. I understand the "have to" agruement I work for the man :P |
| 21:09.00 | Hooloovo0 | you don't have to do that either |
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| 21:09.27 | dcaxq | datasmurf: this is not helping |
| 21:09.43 | dcaxq | i think lsof will be good but i need to close everything |
| 21:09.44 | mrjayribs | annadane: I'll let you know if I can get around it. and I had a windows vm but my hard drive is hella small. |
| 21:10.15 | annadane | hence why 150 MB of packages may not be ideal |
| 21:10.22 | annadane | you need to think of stuff like that, not everyone has the space |
| 21:10.29 | happ | any idea why ulimits dont get applied when i ssh in? |
| 21:10.31 | dcaxq | mrjayribs: do you have chrome? |
| 21:10.37 | dcaxq | or firefox? |
| 21:10.40 | mrjayribs | dcaxq: firefox |
| 21:10.45 | dcaxq | try to open the pdf in firefox |
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| 21:11.13 | bigfoot547 | Okay, I have a question. So, I am going to buy a new windows 10 machine. |
| 21:11.30 | bigfoot547 | I am planning on making it a duel-boot to debian stretch as well |
| 21:11.30 | mrjayribs | dcaxq: nada, good thought tho |
| 21:11.37 | dcaxq | mrjayribs: what happen? |
| 21:12.01 | DavePage | Duel-boot sounds awesome - Windows vs Debian fight to be your OS today |
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| 21:12.15 | bigfoot547 | Will the SecureBoot thing remove the grub boot loader? |
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| 21:12.33 | dcaxq | mrjayribs: some error? let me know. |
| 21:12.51 | mrjayribs | dcaxq: http://i.imgur.com/tao4KrK.png |
| 21:13.12 | mrjayribs | DR......fuck htat |
| 21:13.52 | dcaxq | can you open terminal navigate to the folder the pdf is in there and do file file_of_the_pdf? like file pdf_file.pdf |
| 21:14.02 | dcaxq | and paste the output |
| 21:14.32 | mrjayribs | dcaxq: can you rephrase that? |
| 21:15.38 | mrjayribs | bigfoot547: I highly suggest a dual boot. That's how I got into Linux, and I remember the day that I thought that the GRUB was pointless cuz i never used Windows anyway (lol and I have a windows proprietary issue right now) |
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| 21:15.48 | dcaxq | mrjayribs: open terminal and navigate to the folder that the pdf is in there and then run the command with the filename of the pdf like: $ file file_name.pdf |
| 21:16.12 | bigfoot547 | mrjayribs: No, but then if GRUB get's wiped, linux is inaccessable |
| 21:16.32 | dcaxq | how can grub be wiped? |
| 21:16.45 | mrjayribs | bigfoot547: I mean I just wipe windows and just had a linux machine...nvm |
| 21:16.55 | dcaxq | only if you probably launh windows repair or use some fix of windows |
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| 21:17.10 | dcaxq | or install windows after linux |
| 21:17.11 | mrjayribs | idk what linux even is don't lesson to me |
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| 21:17.21 | mrjayribs | listen* |
| 21:17.23 | bigfoot547 | mrjayribs: Some software requires windows :L |
| 21:17.29 | mrjayribs | dcaxq: file.pdf: PDF document, version 1.7 |
| 21:17.45 | mrjayribs | bigfoot547: like Adobe reader |
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| 21:18.13 | bigfoot547 | Yes, but there are PDF readers for linux |
| 21:18.31 | annadane | bigfoot547, i think what you want is anecdotal evidence |
| 21:18.42 | annadane | if there isn't a clear answer out there already |
| 21:18.51 | annadane | you can try asking reddit.com/r/linux or reddit.com/r/debian |
| 21:18.55 | dcaxq | mrjayribs: can you try this? xpdf file.pdf ? |
| 21:19.01 | bigfoot547 | annadane: Ok |
| 21:19.36 | annadane | i have not heard any huge scandals of anything microsoft related wiping out debian and so i suspect that for those that it may have happened to, they did something weird with their configuration |
| 21:19.49 | bigfoot547 | Ok |
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| 21:19.56 | annadane | anything is possible of course |
| 21:20.15 | bigfoot547 | But the SecureBoot thing will wipe out grub AFAIK |
| 21:20.16 | mrjayribs | dcaxq: that's awesome, but no it didn't work |
| 21:20.26 | annadane | you could of course also just ask microsoft and they'll "probably" tell you the truth but you know, it's microsoft |
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| 21:20.32 | dcaxq | mrjayribs: what happen? some error? can you describe what happen? |
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| 21:20.51 | annadane | unless anyone has a definitive answer in here? |
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| 21:23.05 | mrjayribs | dcaxq: I just see that same image |
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| 21:26.18 | bigfoot547 | annadane: A definitive answer is what I'm waiting for ;) |
| 21:28.10 | david3 | Does apt upgrade upgrade you to the latest point release? |
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| 21:28.49 | annadane | david3, IIRC 9.2 comes with a slightly updated kernel so you would need apt dist-upgrade |
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| 21:30.03 | david3 | annadane: Ok, thank you for explaining. If there was no change to the kernel would apt upgrade work otherwise? One would have to know about the kernel to determine which command to use if so. |
| 21:30.43 | mrjayribs | Would LFS help me understand the linux kernel? |
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| 21:31.04 | annadane | david3, probably it would, knowing stable. it's hard to say in all circumstances but essentially apt upgrade is the safe version of apt dist-upgrade, in that it won't remove any packages |
| 21:31.47 | annadane | see the man page for apt-get; https://paste.debian.net/990326/ |
| 21:32.04 | david3 | annodane, But if I have packages installed upgrading the distribution won't remove them unless there is a security reason right? It isn't starting me from a fresh install is it? |
| 21:32.16 | annadane | it is not. |
| 21:32.24 | david3 | ok |
| 21:32.44 | annadane | but apt will tell you if it's about to remove packages; it will list the number upgraded, newly installed, removed and not upgraded, and will prompt you with a Y/N prompt |
| 21:33.29 | annadane | if you're unhappy with what it offers, then come back here for clarification |
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| 21:37.23 | dcaxq | mrjayribs: do this: pdfinfo file.pdf | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 21:37.31 | dcaxq | in your terminal |
| 21:39.02 | annadane | david3, as a sidenote, stable is pretty good about this. it's why it's stable. updates are made to be relatively smooth |
| 21:39.27 | david3 | annadane, I'm running stable not testing too. Does testing not use point releases? |
| 21:39.28 | annadane | you shouldn't get 75 removed packages as in sid |
| 21:39.35 | annadane | no, it does not |
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| 21:39.48 | david3 | ok, I thought so. |
| 21:40.02 | david3 | What does dist-upgrade do for testing? |
| 21:40.09 | annadane | same thing as it does for stable |
| 21:40.26 | david3 | But it takes you past the point release? |
| 21:40.35 | jack_ | Hi I keep getting a lissl.so.1.0.0 missing error does anyone know a way around this without downgrading openssl |
| 21:41.07 | annadane | no; testing does not have point releases, it's a rolling release. 9.2 is just a name, it just means a collection of updates from across the board for the newest stable packages |
| 21:41.15 | dcaxq | jack_: from where do you get it? |
| 21:41.44 | annadane | a number of which you wouldn't have to upgrade if you'd been judiciously keeping up with security updates, but 9.2 is just a way to roll them into one convenient releases so people can be more updated than they would be otherwise |
| 21:41.56 | annadane | s/releases/release |
| 21:42.04 | jack_ | It's from trying to run binary ninja on debian 9 |
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| 21:42.22 | jack_ | They don't support anything but ubuntu and when I asked them they said install ubuntu |
| 21:42.25 | annadane | furthermore, testing is technically debian 10, not 9 |
| 21:42.41 | david3 | annadane, I have to do apt upgrade on a regulat basis mannually to get security updates right? There is no notification light or anyting? I know there is an email list or web page to check. |
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| 21:43.16 | annadane | david3, that sort of depends on your desktop environment/window manager. plasma has one by default, and i know there's pk-update-icon for ones that don't have a notification icon |
| 21:43.26 | david3 | I'm using gnome 3 |
| 21:43.27 | annadane | you can also get cron to email you about updates but i don't know too much about it |
| 21:43.36 | annadane | right, i'm not familiar with gnome unfortunately |
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| 21:44.26 | dcaxq | jack_: it's free program? |
| 21:44.36 | jack_ | no Binary Ninja isn't free |
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| 21:44.42 | GenTooMan | annadane: there are lots of branches around gnome 3 for a reason. |
| 21:47.14 | david3 | annadane, in some way it seems a bit surprising that Debian so big on security, yet it does not automatically notify you. I guess it is still a leave it up to administrator approach, but make it available. |
| 21:47.28 | david3 | The website says join the email distribution. |
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| 21:53.45 | david3 | I did apt dist-upgrade and it said all packages are already up to date. I was expecting it to update me to the latest point release. |
| 21:54.08 | david3 | Right before I did that I did apt uprade and it upgraded a bunch of stuff though. |
| 21:54.50 | david3 | Also under gnome details it says debian 9 with no decimal number. |
| 21:55.29 | TandyUK | so debian 9: apt-get install mysql-server wants to install mariadb |
| 21:55.35 | annadane | if you did an apt upgrade and dist-upgrade shows nothing (0,0,0,0) then you're good |
| 21:55.40 | david3 | lsb_release -a says 9.2 though. I just found that command. |
| 21:55.40 | TandyUK | whats the actual mysql package now called? |
| 21:55.59 | annadane | TandyUK, mysql was replaced by mariadb for stretch |
| 21:56.02 | TandyUK | mariadb !== mysql, i really do not understand this change |
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| 21:56.06 | dcaxq | jack_: you should email them for support |
| 21:56.13 | TandyUK | its a 99% compaitble drop in replcement, but NOT 100% |
| 21:56.26 | annadane | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#mariadb-replaces-mysql |
| 21:56.34 | TandyUK | yeah im aware of the change |
| 21:56.43 | TandyUK | im asking what is the ACTUAL mysql package now called |
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| 22:03.48 | awal1 | david3, under stable branch upgrade or dist-upgrade does quasi same thing since no new pkgs/newer versions are introduced. testingUnstable are another story |
| 22:04.44 | annadane | well, at least for point releases |
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| 22:04.56 | annadane | 8 > 9 > 10 etc is a bit of a different story |
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| 22:05.15 | awal1 | ya |
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| 22:06.14 | awal1 | obvious :P |
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| 22:07.24 | mrjayribs | dcaxq: sorry i'm so busy http://termbin.com/yy4no |
| 22:08.21 | mrjayribs | dcaxq: I wonder if that info was too person |
| 22:08.25 | mrjayribs | personal* |
| 22:08.30 | annadane | yeah i mean it's like i was saying linux programs really ought to run pdf's |
| 22:08.33 | annadane | including firefox |
| 22:08.40 | annadane | that message you got makes zero sense |
| 22:08.46 | annadane | unless they have a really shady deal with adobe |
| 22:08.52 | dcaxq | mrjayribs: as you see the pdf created with Adobe LiveCycle and I am not aware of a pdf software that can open that file. |
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| 22:09.17 | mrjayribs | that was a fancy set of commands my friend. bravo for your help! |
| 22:09.18 | dcaxq | mrjayribs: Your best is to open it on Adobe Acrobat on a windows compuer. |
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| 22:10.50 | dcaxq | computer* |
| 22:11.24 | mrjayribs | dcaxq: thank you. Honestly that nc command does it for me. |
| 22:11.50 | dcaxq | no problem |
| 22:12.05 | dcaxq | happy to help |
| 22:12.50 | mrjayribs | dcaxq: yeah but really wtf whats up with that nc command |
| 22:13.31 | mrjayribs | to the man pages! |
| 22:14.03 | dcaxq | yep |
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| 22:14.25 | dcaxq | in briefly, it's just pipe and send the data to that host+port |
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| 22:16.57 | mrjayribs | I see. Yeah I'm researching it. It's a very simple tool. |
| 22:16.58 | annadane | i did not know about livecycle... that's really odd |
| 22:18.15 | awal1 | btw, pdftk + pdfchain are good |
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| 22:19.09 | mrjayribs | awal1: good for what? |
| 22:20.09 | awal1 | for restricted pdf stuff |
| 22:20.58 | mrjayribs | i'll give it a shot |
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| 22:22.05 | tiwake | how do I use LUKS to decrypt some drives before initramfs tries to mount my ZFS pool? |
| 22:22.25 | dcaxq | !luks |
| 22:22.25 | dpkg | Linux Unified Key Setup (LUKS) is a disk encryption specification with a platform-independent format. http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/ . To access on Microsoft Windows systems, see http://sf.net/projects/freeotfe.mirror/ and <ext2read>. |
| 22:22.51 | Maido-Chan | is there any way in kate tocompare two files side by side? |
| 22:23.17 | tiwake | dcaxq: I already have it set up, I just need to decrypt the drives that my ZFS pool is attached to before ZFS tries to mount it |
| 22:23.33 | durg | maido-chan: thats a typical diff exercise |
| 22:23.51 | durg | emacs can also do it, don't know about kate |
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| 22:24.05 | mrjayribs | awal1: i'd love to talk about that later; but I have to go now. Thank you for the suggestions yall! |
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| 22:24.14 | phogg | Maido-Chan: use kdiff3 for that |
| 22:24.26 | Maido-Chan | kdiff3? |
| 22:24.42 | phogg | Maido-Chan: a KDE diff program; also the best GUI diff tool I've used |
| 22:25.26 | Maido-Chan | k thanx |
| 22:25.29 | Maido-Chan | installing now |
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| 22:26.09 | Maido-Chan | something odd. i prefer gui for almost everything and yet i don't think i've opened whatever graphical package manager debian/xfce4 may have come with. |
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| 22:28.58 | annadane | Maido-Chan, split view? |
| 22:29.06 | annadane | "view - split view" |
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| 22:29.10 | Coolternet | hello guys |
| 22:29.21 | Maido-Chan | doesn't have comparative highlighting or synchronized scrolling. :p |
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| 22:31.07 | Coolternet | anyone can tell me if all is ok ? https://fkcd.ca/6YH |
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| 22:38.34 | dcaxq | Coolternet: why do you ask here? |
| 22:38.53 | dcaxq | what is the issue? |
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| 22:39.12 | Coolternet | i dont have any acces to web server |
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