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| 00:40.13 | spyke581 | Hello, Im trying to mount an NFS share on one of my Debian VMs and it is giving me an error that says "requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported" can anybody lend some advise on what might cause this? the same shares mount successfully on Xubuntu and CentOS VMs |
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| 01:42.33 | jonwil | I have a system running a debian derivative and using apt-get for package management. If I run apt-get -s upgrade I see it showing "the following packages have been kept back" and "the following packages will be upgraded". How does apt-get decide which packages will be upgraded and which will be kept back? |
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| 01:44.28 | annadane | !based on debian |
| 01:44.28 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 01:44.45 | annadane | what derivative are you using so we can point you to their support |
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| 01:55.36 | spyke581 | So further info on the above NFS issue, when I run "showmount -e x.x.x.x" it returns "clnt_create: RPC: Program not registered" |
| 01:55.51 | spyke581 | this command works correctly on the other machines |
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| 02:07.40 | iflema | annadane: thats a general question and this channel aint overflowing with requets ATM. More over thats a good one to drop in front of idlers... |
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| 02:08.58 | annadane | what? i was asking jonwil |
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| 02:10.01 | iflema | what? pfff |
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| 02:10.09 | iflema | just saying... |
| 02:11.17 | annadane | it's still a question about debian derivs for which we can't know the differences |
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| 02:13.10 | dTal | people routinely ask completely generic shell stuff in here which gets answered |
| 02:13.23 | dTal | a question about apt in a quiet channel seems debian-y enough |
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| 02:15.14 | TimeTraveler | hi folks |
| 02:15.22 | iflema | its 50/50. If they want to know what packages are holding what back then maybe the distro channel is the place if not google or the package manager itself. |
| 02:15.39 | TimeTraveler | im having some trouble burning a data disk |
| 02:15.42 | TimeTraveler | using brasero |
| 02:15.53 | TimeTraveler | when i click burn it immediatly ejects the disk |
| 02:15.54 | iflema | o/ |
| 02:16.05 | TimeTraveler | an internal error occured |
| 02:16.11 | TimeTraveler | the logs file doesnt say much more |
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| 02:18.54 | iflema | TimeTraveler: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/brasero-cdrkit |
| 02:19.36 | iflema | TimeTraveler: do you have it installed? and that link if for current |
| 02:20.29 | TimeTraveler | iflema, yeah i have that installed |
| 02:20.42 | TimeTraveler | im using the lg slim blur-ray burner with m-disk support |
| 02:20.47 | annadane | even if we can answer their question it's a bad habit to ask like that |
| 02:20.52 | annadane | anyway, whatever |
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| 02:22.46 | iflema | TimeTraveler: im fresh out of ideas |
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| 02:24.27 | iflema | TimeTraveler: what if you start it from a terminal? any clues? And what log? |
| 02:24.57 | TimeTraveler | log just says: |
| 02:25.00 | TimeTraveler | Checking session consistency (brasero_burn_check_session_consistency brasero-burn.c:1739) |
| 02:25.00 | TimeTraveler | Unsupported type of task operation |
| 02:25.00 | TimeTraveler | Session error : An internal error occurred (brasero_burn_record brasero-burn.c:2856) |
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| 02:25.50 | iflema | Unsupported type of task operation. next. |
| 02:25.52 | iflema | =) |
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| 02:32.12 | Ellied | does anyone have a system using encrypted LVM where they can successfully resume from hibernate? I have never had Debian successfully resume from disk suspend, it *always* hangs. It worked fine on Manjaro. |
| 02:32.16 | iflema | TimeTraveler: CD or DVD? |
| 02:32.33 | TimeTraveler | iflema, Blue ray disk |
| 02:32.38 | iflema | heh |
| 02:33.22 | Ellied | I have a swap partition over twice as big as my RAM, and I've added a resume=UUID=[uuid-here] term to my kernel parameters. still no dice. |
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| 02:34.00 | ryouma | Ellied: i presume resume= overrides teh initrd file? |
| 02:34.43 | ryouma | there is an initrd file that might be worth editing, maybe. altohugh something generates it. |
| 02:34.52 | Ellied | it might; the initrd file was pointing to the swap volume's entry in /dev/mapper, but I just changed it to the UUID. about to see if it works now. |
| 02:34.59 | ryouma | file in initrd |
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| 02:35.38 | TimeTraveler | hmm |
| 02:35.39 | ryouma | i found resume to be incorrect, although i do not hibernate |
| 02:36.31 | Ellied | I like the idea of having it working because I'm under the impression a hibernated (encrypted) system is harder to access than one that is just suspended to RAM, but I could be wrong about that. |
| 02:36.36 | TimeTraveler | is brasero the best burn app for debian? |
| 02:36.44 | Ellied | more relevantly, I might not care about that level of security. |
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| 02:40.49 | iflema | TimeTraveler: maybe not for this? There are mutiple command line programs. Im not sure all the deps for brasero line up for this job. |
| 02:41.15 | Ellied | Nope, that didn't do anything. it still apparently finishes decrypting and then just turns off the display and hangs |
| 02:41.17 | iflema | maybe... im looking through it now |
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| 02:42.10 | Ellied | my other machines at least do me the courtesy of booting fresh when resume fails |
| 02:42.52 | TimeTraveler | hmm |
| 02:43.02 | TimeTraveler | brasero not working too great :( |
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| 02:43.22 | bazhang | TimeTraveler, to do what |
| 02:43.27 | iflema | yeah CDs are a bad idea anyway |
| 02:43.34 | bazhang | TimeTraveler, why not try the many other options |
| 02:44.18 | TimeTraveler | bazhang, trying to burn a Blueray data disc |
| 02:44.45 | annadane | time travel into the future and find better software :-) |
| 02:44.46 | annadane | sorry |
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| 02:44.56 | iflema | lol |
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| 02:54.34 | TimeTraveler | i guess BD-R discs are not supported? |
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| 03:04.20 | iflema | TimeTraveler: there are mutiple command line applications that can |
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| 03:06.08 | TimeTraveler | iflema, yeah im looking into them now |
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| 03:18.53 | TimeTraveler | ok, burning my M-disc now |
| 03:18.57 | TimeTraveler | :) |
| 03:19.04 | TimeTraveler | hope this works |
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| 03:22.32 | TimeTraveler | anyone use m-discs? |
| 03:25.23 | Elminster | Hi folks. I'm working on the installation of an ubuntu server on an old computer and -yes I've only got a couple of dozen hours under my belt- but I can't figure out the following problem: sudo apt-get updates --- It cannot find the ca.archive.ubuntu.com. I tried to ping, host -v, change the resolv.conf nameserver to the router ip dedicated to this machine... and no success. |
| 03:25.26 | iflema | not here. Im lucky to backup. I just put some things in the clouds |
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| 03:26.14 | TimeTraveler | Elminster, why not try the ubuntu channel? |
| 03:26.17 | Elminster | The wireless connection was working in the install process. |
| 03:26.27 | TimeTraveler | heh iflema |
| 03:26.39 | Elminster | Will do TimeTraveler. |
| 03:26.46 | TimeTraveler | i have some important photos to backup |
| 03:26.49 | TimeTraveler | long term |
| 03:27.06 | iflema | Elminster: you cant edit resolv.conf in these distros can you? |
| 03:27.26 | iflema | Elminster: networkmanger or something blows it away does it not? |
| 03:28.01 | TimeTraveler | m-disc is supposed to have a 1000 year lifespan |
| 03:28.20 | iflema | really? |
| 03:28.24 | TimeTraveler | yup |
| 03:28.24 | iflema | huh |
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| 03:29.07 | Elminster | No -- I can edit it (ubuntu server 17.04) with sudo |
| 03:29.42 | Elminster | No shit. |
| 03:30.07 | TimeTraveler | in 1000 years advanced civilizations will marvel at my cat and dick picks |
| 03:30.09 | TimeTraveler | pics |
| 03:30.19 | TimeTraveler | who knows maybe ill even be hanging in a museum somewhere |
| 03:31.06 | petemc | examples of anceint macro photography |
| 03:31.31 | TimeTraveler | hah |
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| 03:33.30 | TimeTraveler | damn this burning is slow |
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| 03:45.32 | PGNd | I'm attempting to launch a Debian9 installer in a Xen Guest VM, in UEFI mode. I've no problems launching OpenSUSE guests; UbuntuServer guests launch as well (though there are some graphics problems). |
| 03:45.59 | petn-randall | Hi PGNd, what is stopping you from doing so? |
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| 03:46.00 | PGNd | But, the Debian9 guest *does* detect UEFI mode -- I *see* the TianoCore/ovmf logo. |
| 03:46.26 | PGNd | But it simply drops to the EFI Shell ... with no ability to boot further. |
| 03:46.46 | petn-randall | PGNd: Which installer did you pick? |
| 03:46.51 | PGNd | IIUC, Debian9 is supposed to be UEFI bootable? |
| 03:47.11 | petn-randall | PGNd: It is, though it doesn't support secure boot. |
| 03:47.11 | PGNd | petn-randall: I've tried both net-install, and full dvd #1 |
| 03:47.53 | petn-randall | PGNd: I'd check the EFI settings menu and double-check that secure boot is turned off. |
| 03:48.10 | PGNd | I'd normally add "\EFI\debian\grubx64.efi" to startup.nsh ... but there's no trace of it on the iso |
| 03:48.33 | PGNd | petn-randall: I've turned off SecureBoot in Tianocor firmware setup. |
| 03:48.38 | PGNd | No diff. |
| 03:48.57 | Butterz | petn-randall is correct....turn off secure boot in your BIOS |
| 03:48.58 | petn-randall | PGNd: Are you passing the installer images as CD/DVD to the VM? |
| 03:49.09 | PGNd | petn-randall: yes |
| 03:49.13 | Butterz | petn-randall: do you agree? |
| 03:49.14 | Butterz | ok |
| 03:50.17 | Butterz | you may need to switch to LEGACY |
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| 03:52.14 | PGNd | Butterz: "LEGACY"? You mean bios_grub partition, with MBR? |
| 03:53.23 | Butterz | sry guys...PGNd, I mean legacy vs. UEFI in BIOS setup |
| 03:53.52 | PGNd | The point is getting UEFI to work ... |
| 03:57.38 | Butterz | could this possibly require a firmware update?? |
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| 03:58.56 | PGNd | I'm running latest ovmf |
| 03:59.17 | Butterz | ugh ok |
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| 04:12.47 | Butterz | I'm not willing to reboot. But I'm pretty sure I turned off UEFI AND Secure Boot. I'm running Deb9 as well. |
| 04:13.11 | Butterz | I'm still searching around. |
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| 04:15.27 | Butterz | I have some firmware issues of my own I'm trying to work :) |
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| 04:23.05 | Butterz | PGNd:: am i head-desking as hard as you are? I'm under the same understanding that updated firmware should provide you UEFI. |
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| 04:23.53 | Butterz | (probably not) |
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| 04:24.44 | Butterz | if you find anything, pls let me know |
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| 05:06.49 | peterbecich | Hi there! I am attempting to dual boot Debian on a Macbook Pro Retina from 2014. I have installed rEFInd and attempted to configure it: https://pastebin.com/9hnXM09k the rEFInd menu works but an attempt to boot into Debian fails: https://photos.app.goo.gl/xjSgWv0zH0549Xhj2 Complicating matters, GRUB failed to install on my Debian partition: https://photos.app.goo.gl/OTm8XUpL2h6AsJKr1 Any advice appreciated, thanks |
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| 05:24.07 | iflema | both a waste of time |
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| 05:51.41 | peterbecich | The Debian volume group is encrypted, so idk how vmlinuz could be accessed in the root. Pardon my ignorance. Thanks |
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| 05:52.29 | rue_mohr | nowhere else to ask this, I have a ttyS4 on port 0x270 how the hell do I get udev to acknowledge it? |
| 05:52.50 | rue_mohr | its not in the pnp, its just there |
| 05:53.03 | rue_mohr | its not pci, its just there |
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| 05:54.50 | eugenmayer | its most probably by 20th stretch installation and suddently, bridges are not created upon boot when registrered in e/n/interfaces ( yes auto br0 is present ) .. i have to brctl add bro and then /e/init.d/networking restart and then the bridge is setup. Is this something 9.2 related? |
| 05:55.08 | a0p | hi all, I would like to ask how to change system font. also, do you have any decent font to recommend? thanks :) |
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| 05:56.50 | a0p | the default font doesnt look great I have to admit |
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| 06:00.51 | rue_mohr | because it wasn't compiled as a module, there is no way to make the system identify another port |
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| 06:55.06 | gaurishankar | hello |
| 06:55.22 | gaurishankar | I upgraded my debian jessie to debian stretch |
| 06:55.36 | gaurishankar | now getting error LVMETD |
| 06:56.00 | gaurishankar | unable to connect from Windows XP to debian server |
| 06:56.06 | gaurishankar | please help |
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| 07:05.19 | rue_mohr | did you go and plug in a keyboard/screen and see? |
| 07:06.04 | rue_mohr | did you need to do the upgrade or were you just making your life hard? |
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| 07:10.54 | gaurishankar | can any one help me |
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| 07:14.06 | annadane | gaurishankar, we might need a more detailed error message, where do you get it? |
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| 08:04.26 | b4d | Hi, any idea why I can't connect to my strongswan VPN server by using domain name? Using IP works ok... Thanks (asking here as #strongswan is kinda silent) |
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| 08:06.07 | annadane | b4d, via terminal or gui? if by terminal, you can try giving some output |
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| 08:06.29 | annadane | if gui, well, what error messages does it give, and try it via terminal if you know how |
| 08:06.35 | FinalX | that's not a debian issue though, that might be a DNS issue, often it's because the record also has an IPv6 (AAAA) record, your computer has IPv6, but the server is not listening on that address, or maybe the DNS name is pointing wrong to begin with. alternatively, maybe your VPN software has a DNS-killswitch in case you're not connected to the VPN, or your nameservers are set up already to use the VPN |
| 08:06.38 | FinalX | server's and won't be able to be used without being connected. |
| 08:07.02 | FinalX | with just "it doesn't work", we can't help you further. so consider those problem-options. |
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| 08:08.38 | b4d | annadane, FinalX: thanks for the pointers, will investigate further, IPv6 is probably the problem |
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| 08:57.24 | elfranne | anyone got some good docs about making network bridges ? with the new enp0s4 naming convention i am having trouble finding proper docs to make a bridge .... |
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| 09:00.02 | dgp | elfranne: making a bridge in /etc/network/interfaces is the same as it ever was. You just use the new name instead of eth0 or whatever |
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| 09:01.07 | elfranne | so enp0s1 becomes brp0s1 ? |
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| 09:01.30 | dgp | no, you create a bridge called br0 or whatever and add enp0s1 to it as a port |
| 09:01.55 | dgp | https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Configuring_bridging_in_.2Fetc.2Fnetwork.2Finterfaces |
| 09:02.18 | elfranne | thx |
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| 09:09.05 | pz91 | hello |
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| 09:20.14 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 09:21.38 | codingquark | o/ |
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| 09:33.42 | b4d | annadane, FinalX: follow up, old configuration of strongswan on server, where I used IP in config for leftid, changed to domain name and reissued certificate :) works. Thanks |
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| 09:40.08 | galex-713 | Hi |
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| 09:40.45 | galex-713 | If Iâm under stable, but I encounter some bug, what am I supposed to do if the package is maybe not known enough (modemmanager in my case) to be sure to find relevant/successful help on IRC? |
| 09:41.16 | galex-713 | If I do reportbug, it says thereâs a more recent version in testing/unstable, but afaik then you donât get anymore support on IRC unless youâre on stable right? |
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| 09:42.50 | m0ng3r | anyone able to create a build of kali that works with a surface pro 4 keyboard? |
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| 09:43.20 | towo^work | m0ng3r, here is not #kali |
| 09:43.51 | m0ng3r | towo^work: okay, anyone able to create a build of debian that works with a surface pro 4 keyboard? |
| 09:44.07 | m0ng3r | it's basically the same thing right? |
| 09:44.58 | galex-713 | so what am I supposed to do with my bugs? install a fresh new testing install then reinstall again with stable once itâs fixed? :/ |
| 09:45.09 | galex-713 | arenât the bugs supposed to be fixed in stable? |
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| 09:48.09 | alson | hi my name is alson |
| 09:48.17 | alson | i am new to use linux |
| 09:48.29 | m0ng3r | Hi alson |
| 09:48.30 | alson | and i choose debian 9 stretch |
| 09:48.36 | m0ng3r | I am new to use pants |
| 09:49.10 | alson | lol :D |
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| 09:50.36 | alson | how to fix ifconfig command not found? |
| 09:51.17 | elfranne | ifconfig -> ip addr |
| 09:51.59 | babilen | alson: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#iproute2 |
| 09:52.10 | alson | ifconfig change to ip addr? |
| 09:52.31 | alson | oke thank you sir |
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| 09:53.06 | elfranne | yes alson, just type ip addr .... |
| 09:53.14 | babilen | https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/ |
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| 09:53.38 | babilen | or "ip a" |
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| 09:55.08 | alson | oke man |
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| 10:03.24 | raptor79 | ciao |
| 10:05.00 | raptor79 | !list |
| 10:05.00 | dpkg | raptor79: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
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| 10:07.06 | tdn | Are /vmlinuz and /initrd.img no longer used in debian 9.2? |
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| 10:14.56 | durg | hi |
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| 10:16.41 | durg | it tried to include iptables -P INPUT DROP in /etc/rcS.d/S10networking, but it seems to be ignored |
| 10:16.41 | durg | there is nothing in the logs, how can I debug it? |
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| 10:20.48 | jelly-home | durg: which debian release are you using? |
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| 10:21.06 | durg | 9.2 |
| 10:21.55 | durg | stretch |
| 10:22.23 | jelly-home | durg: then you'll have systemd and networking service brought up via /lib/systemd/system/networking.service by default |
| 10:22.50 | durg | ah! interesting, thanks. |
| 10:23.04 | jelly-home | you could use iptables-persistent package to set up default rules and policy |
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| 10:24.50 | durg | that would be possible, but I want to learn how it all works together. |
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| 10:30.37 | dza | "dh" does that run in its own environment when defined in /debian/rules ? I'm not seeing the ENV variable reflected in the "dh" make process. |
| 10:31.17 | durg | maybe using the package is better in case something is changed again in the future though |
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| 10:36.00 | dza | can I add environment variables to "dpkg-buildpackage" in some script? |
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| 10:38.22 | babilen | dza: You are probably looking for #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
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| 10:39.43 | dza | babilen: thanks :) |
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| 10:42.10 | babilen | dza: It's less busy, so idle around if you don't get an answer right away |
| 10:42.34 | dza | babilen: have a good day thanks |
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| 11:11.05 | nurupo | researches found how to bypass WPA2 protection (a vulnerability in the handshake), more details are to be released today https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/10/severe-flaw-in-wpa2-protocol-leaves-wi-fi-traffic-open-to-eavesdropping/ |
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| 11:12.24 | shtrb | Was the wrokaround against KRACK shipped in debian security updates ? |
| 11:12.32 | FlyLo | hello, can anyone help me with some info regarding the apache2 httpd server on debian jessie? https://packages.debian.org/jessie/apache2 is this getting only security fixes? |
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| 11:14.46 | gpunk | what makes you say that ? |
| 11:15.26 | FlyLo | i want to correlate it to the main source changelog http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/CHANGES_2.4 |
| 11:15.36 | FlyLo | 2.4.10 is an old version |
| 11:16.09 | gpunk | but patched by Debian ... |
| 11:16.13 | FlyLo | i see it receives updates, but the package version doesn't seem to be in sync with the main apache versioning |
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| 11:16.40 | FlyLo | exactly, i was thinking if there is a way to find what's the feature level of the debian package |
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| 11:17.42 | gpunk | you need to read the changelogs (debian's) |
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| 11:18.02 | FlyLo | if the debian package version is 2.4.10-10+deb8u11, is this safe to assume it's actually apache 2.4.10 only with bug and security fixes, but without any extra features? |
| 11:18.16 | FlyLo | gpunk: ok, thanks, i was hoping to avoid that :) |
| 11:18.45 | gpunk | it s about that yes |
| 11:19.15 | FlyLo | the alternative would be to use a non-official repo? |
| 11:19.29 | FlyLo | i mean if i want to have the latest apache package |
| 11:19.55 | gpunk | you cna try backports or |
| 11:20.25 | gpunk | linking sid repositories , at your own risk |
| 11:20.42 | abff | just run sid |
| 11:20.48 | abff | it makes sense |
| 11:20.49 | gpunk | for example |
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| 11:21.36 | gpunk | stretch has 2.4.25 |
| 11:22.04 | FlyLo | yeah, or just update to stretch |
| 11:22.15 | FlyLo | thanks guys |
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| 11:22.52 | gpunk | wlc |
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| 11:26.34 | shtrb | Anyone know how I can get DSA-3999-1 related updates ? |
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| 11:27.34 | gpunk | http://seclists.org/bugtraq/2017/Oct/25 |
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| 11:29.54 | gpunk | looks like a price tag |
| 11:29.58 | gpunk | 3999 |
| 11:30.04 | raynold | ahh it's a wonderful day |
| 11:30.36 | gaurishankar | annadane when system is booted |
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| 11:30.55 | shtrb | gpunk it have a nice price :) , 99% someone will try to put evilinternet boxes |
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| 11:31.34 | gpunk | lol yeah |
| 11:31.44 | shtrb | 700 mb of updates ?! |
| 11:31.45 | shtrb | shit |
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| 11:32.16 | gaurishankar | hello |
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| 11:33.27 | zoeurk | hello I have try to install debian but I have an problem when i select my mirror. My last line in syslog is :"WARNING **: mirror does not support the specified release (stretch)" |
| 11:33.34 | gaurishankar | after upgrade to stretch from jessie I am getting LVMETAD error and cant connect from windows xp client. |
| 11:33.43 | gaurishankar | can any one help me |
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| 11:34.40 | shtrb | zeourk , bad mirror ? |
| 11:34.45 | zoeurk | I use http://ftp.fr.debian.org |
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| 11:35.35 | zoeurk | and i install it under qemu |
| 11:36.08 | shtrb | shouldn't it be http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ ? |
| 11:37.36 | zoeurk | I use debian-9.2.1-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 11:40.05 | zoeurk | And http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ doesnt' work |
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| 11:43.01 | veek | i did a dd on a toshiba u203 usb stick and it output around 30MB/s - i have live-linux installed on the usb runnig Xorg - apps work fine but browser (Firefox, Chromium) freeze the system for some time but top and iotop don't indicate large xfers |
| 11:43.57 | zoeurk | I have try with another mirror but I have the same error |
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| 11:45.55 | gpunk | restart your installation, can your host ping thoses servers ? |
| 11:47.51 | donut_ | zoeurk: depending on your installation you might need to be more specific in your mirror path |
| 11:48.25 | donut_ | but i recommend re-trying as well |
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| 11:50.19 | veek | also getting this Failed to connect to the bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory |
| 11:51.32 | veek | there's no /var/run/sbus dir |
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| 11:55.41 | nurupo | FlyLo: debian stable generally keeps software at the same version as when the debian stable was released, backporting security patches for that version |
| 11:56.38 | FlyLo | nurupo: so that explains why even stretch is already behind with the latest apache version |
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| 11:56.49 | nurupo | FlyLo: the "stable" in "debian stable" means "no behavioral change", so that you can configure you system once and it will behave exactly the same no matter the update |
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| 11:58.06 | nurupo | FlyLo: if you want to always have the latest version of software, consider using a rolling distribution, like arch, gentoo, void or many others |
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| 11:58.58 | FlyLo | makes sense, i probably misunderstood what "stable" meant in this case :) |
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| 12:00.33 | nurupo | debian stable is pretty good for servers, since software keeps behaving the same but you also receive security patches for it. ubuntu lts is similar |
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| 12:04.48 | nurupo | FlyLo: the way debian works is that package maintainers update packages and push them to Debian Unstable. if after a week no one reports a bug for the new version of the package and there are no other blocking issues, the package automatically gets pushed to Debian Testing by a bot. once in two years Debian Testing gets freezed for 6 month, meaning that no packages from Unstable can enter Testing anymore. during this time Testing is vigorously |
| 12:04.48 | nurupo | tested and becomes the new Stable |
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| 12:05.59 | bitlan | hello, what is the best kernel for NAT and shapping server |
| 12:06.01 | bitlan | ? |
| 12:06.07 | bitlan | on the same machine |
| 12:06.25 | gpunk | the latest lol |
| 12:06.41 | kbob | heh |
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| 12:07.21 | bitlan | gpunk: great! O_o |
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| 12:07.56 | gpunk | :) |
| 12:08.05 | shtrb | gpunk how does seclist have a bugreport on Oct 25'th ? |
| 12:08.08 | bitlan | gpunk: any suggestion? |
| 12:08.39 | gpunk | i am not aware of that sorry |
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| 12:11.08 | dionysus69 | how do I run ruby bundle as root? inside systemd unitfile? |
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| 12:11.24 | dionysus69 | - /usr/bin/env bundle or rvm don't get included in path |
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| 12:11.49 | dionysus69 | even though usr/bin/env has rvm path, root still cannot execute it |
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| 12:27.15 | veek | is there a way to specify uhci_hcd instead of ehci_hcd when loading a USB |
| 12:27.49 | colo-work | your host controller is probably only going to be compatible with either driver - not both :) |
| 12:28.05 | colo-work | but you can blacklist one of these modules and prevent it from loading at all |
| 12:28.32 | colo-work | (which will probably render your USB useless. unless you also have an xhci-compliant one in your system, and that still has its driver loaded) |
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| 12:28.51 | segwent | hi .. I have setup a debian9 server and have installed openvpn, i have my openvpn config file and it works when i start it as "openvpn server.conf" but I cannot get it to start using any other method ! eg. systemctl start foo / etc/init.d/openvpn start .. how am i supposed to start it ? |
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| 12:29.17 | zoeurk | my problem come from dns |
| 12:29.29 | zoeurk | thanks |
| 12:29.31 | zoeurk | bye |
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| 12:31.26 | segwent | this is fgairly useless : https://wiki.debian.org/openvpn%20for%20server%20and%20client |
| 12:32.26 | segwent | hello ... |
| 12:32.32 | shtrb | W×× ? |
| 12:32.35 | shtrb | why ? |
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| 12:32.41 | shtrb | segwent , why ? |
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| 12:33.01 | segwent | shtrb: why what ? |
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| 12:33.19 | shtrb | why is it useless ? |
| 12:33.27 | segwent | becuase it is wrong |
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| 12:35.58 | segwent | "/etc/init.d/openvpn start" does not work and i have edited /etc/default/openvpn to AUTOSTART="all" |
| 12:36.14 | veek | when exactly is the /etc/modules file and blacklist consulted.. my fs is on usb so i need uhci_hcd to load before thr fs is mounted |
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| 12:36.27 | segwent | the openvpn.service (systemd) does not work either |
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| 12:40.10 | themill | !openvpn enable |
| 12:40.10 | dpkg | From Debian 8 "Jessie" onwards, to have an OpenVPN VPN connection started at boot time, "systemctl enable openvpn@myvpn.service". |
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| 12:40.27 | segwent | i think the problem is that openvpn now uses /etc/openvpn/server or /etc/openvpn/client dirs but the startup scripts do not |
| 12:41.20 | segwent | "/etc/init.d/openvpn" -> CONFIG_DIR=/etc/openvpn |
| 12:41.40 | segwent | so the debain package is not setup correctly |
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| 12:44.27 | segwent | systemctl start openvpn does nothing |
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| 12:45.20 | themill | it's not supposed to do anything |
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| 12:46.33 | segwent | themill: then how am i supposed to use systemd to start openvpn ? |
| 12:46.39 | themill | what dpkg said |
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| 12:46.52 | segwent | ahh |
| 12:47.25 | segwent | got it ! |
| 12:47.36 | segwent | maybe the docs could use some tlc ... |
| 12:47.51 | themill | Upstream suddenly threw in openvpm-client@ and openvpn-server@ too as well as the openvpn@ one that already existed |
| 12:48.22 | segwent | yes .. i know .. i provide support for openvpn on the forum |
| 12:48.25 | themill | /usr/share/doc/openvpn/README.Debian.gz is reasonably comprehensive |
| 12:48.50 | segwent | we have an issue with debian9 dropping privs for openvpn but cannot find where it is being done |
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| 12:49.09 | themill | seen #866523? |
| 12:49.10 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/866523 in openvpn (open, upstream): «Duplicate systemd units»; severity: important; opened: 2017-06-29; last modified: 2017-07-18. |
| 12:49.21 | jer0me | I should re-read this and search for "how to restart a service after the vpn is up". For now, I use an "up script" which is a bit lame. |
| 12:50.38 | jer0me | running sshd on the vpn interface is a bit silly though. |
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| 12:53.53 | segwent | ok .. thanks |
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| 13:02.09 | pi_ | hello all. I am trying to figure out a way to send a message from my phone to my debian machine at home. I can ssh and do the same, but trying to see if there is an easy way. Yowsup is an option but it will kick me out off whatsapp on my phone |
| 13:02.27 | j_435 | tty1 has some very interesting "garbled" output on it. I wonder if there is some way I can make a "screenshot" of exactly how tty1 looks right now from for example tty2. On tty1 is just the login prompt and the garbled stuff showing. |
| 13:03.10 | pi_ | my goal is to save that message in a file which will be used by another program |
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| 13:06.36 | yareckonirc | Hi folks, have a colleague that apparently has messed up his apt-keys by trying to install nodejs from a non-debian source recently (unfortunately nodejs+npm is not in stretch) |
| 13:06.54 | yareckonirc | we've been trying to fix his key setup all morning, and wanted to ask for help |
| 13:07.02 | yareckonirc | we've reinstalled debian-keyring |
| 13:07.07 | yareckonirc | done a series of apt-cleans |
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| 13:07.30 | yareckonirc | and fooled around a lot in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d |
| 13:07.35 | reie | hi, why 'apt-get install package/source' and 'apt-get install package -t source' behave differently? Is there a way to make '-t' work the same as '/'? |
| 13:07.38 | yareckonirc | nothing seems toi work |
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| 13:08.19 | yareckonirc | anybody else have a way to proceed on making keys work short of a stretch reinstall? |
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| 13:08.46 | yareckonirc | (we've also added keys by hand, and installed dirmngr, etc. etc) |
| 13:09.20 | dpk | hi! how do i install npm on Debian stretch? it seems to have been removed as its own package since jessie, but nodejs doesn't include it either |
| 13:09.24 | Igel | great morning #debian |
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| 13:09.45 | Doldge | j_435: you may want to look at man vcs |
| 13:09.51 | yareckonirc | we still get NO_PUBKEY 8B48AD6246925553 NO_PUBKEY 7638D0442B90D010 (various other keys too) |
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| 13:10.26 | Igel | not sure thats the case dpk, could be in non-free, but you can always follow the nodejs website to download it |
| 13:11.07 | dpk | it is the case, i'm not sure why you're doubting me |
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| 13:11.45 | yareckonirc | ah dpk, you're indirectly here for the same reason as I :) |
| 13:12.00 | Doldge | yareckonirc: have you tried apt-key update ? |
| 13:12.11 | dpk | notice the amazing lack of npm https://packages.debian.org/stretch/amd64/nodejs/filelist |
| 13:12.21 | Igel | hey i wanted to stop by and ask a question about /dev/shm .. i was working with some files in the directory /dev/shm/files/.. mostly for compiling a project. work up today, the /dev/shm/ is empty. |
| 13:12.23 | yareckonirc | I'm here dealign with the aftemath of trying to install nodesource's broken third party packages |
| 13:12.29 | dpk | notice also the amazing lack of stretch package https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=npm |
| 13:12.50 | yareckonirc | Doldge, apt-key update only says that it is deprecated |
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| 13:13.42 | Igel | nodejs/unknown 8.7.0-1nodesource1 |
| 13:14.14 | Doldge | yareckonirc: their's a net-update command as well? |
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| 13:17.58 | yareckonirc | hi Doldge, we didn't try that |
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| 13:18.27 | yareckonirc | the text there says only supported by ubuntu, not debian |
| 13:18.36 | yareckonirc | so we skipped it |
| 13:18.51 | themill | reie: they work differently because they have slightly different meanings. One is changing the pinning for the entire apt run while the other is selecting a single package from a different release (and perhaps its deps, depending on the version of apt) |
| 13:19.15 | yareckonirc | seems like all the helper methods are deprecated, and the new way is to copy keys under /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.de |
| 13:19.31 | yareckonirc | but all the keys we want are there, but we still have the issue |
| 13:19.45 | yareckonirc | also apt-key list shows them, I believe |
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| 13:20.05 | dpk | meh, i found a way to get around the need to install npm, for my use case. thanks anyway |
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| 13:20.08 | themill | yareckonirc: it would be good to see output in a pastebin (from apt and apt-key) |
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| 13:20.37 | yareckonirc | one twist may be that since apt-key list and apt seem to fingerprint/id keys in different formats, it may be I've miss identified them |
| 13:20.38 | strk | I'm running Debian-8, should `apt-get dist-upgrade` bring me to Debian-9 ? |
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| 13:20.55 | yareckonirc | strk, if you've updated your package sources |
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| 13:21.02 | strk | oh, that's what I'm missing |
| 13:21.03 | themill | strk: you'd want to read the release notes that talk about that |
| 13:21.13 | strk | from "jessie" to ? |
| 13:21.23 | yareckonirc | stretch... but read the docs |
| 13:21.29 | themill | dpkg, jessie->stretch |
| 13:21.30 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/OFVv . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "jessie" to "stretch" and remove stable-specific lines like jessie-backports. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. |
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| 13:23.31 | bitlan | dpkg, patch |
| 13:23.32 | dpkg | patch is probably just a tool to handle text file mutations according to a common format known as 'diff'. For kernel patching use (depending on type of patch): 'patch -p1 < patch.diff' or 'zcat patch.gz | patch -p1' or 'bzcat patch.bz2 | patch -p1' |
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| 13:24.04 | bitlan | dpkg, imq |
| 13:24.04 | dpkg | it has been said that imq is intermediate queueing device. Useful for shaping incoming traffic. lartc.org/howto/lartc.imq.html http://www.linuximq.net |
| 13:24.13 | yareckonirc | themill, will try to get the pasebin for you from my colleague |
| 13:24.43 | yareckonirc | do you know what fingerprint/id format apt-get update spits? |
| 13:24.53 | bitlan | dpkg, kernel patch |
| 13:24.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kernel patch is cd /usr/src/linux && bunzip2 < /tmp/pre-patch-2.2.x.bz2 | patch -p1 |
| 13:24.54 | yareckonirc | and whether I can get apt-key to show that format? |
| 13:26.03 | themill | it's just long key id vs fingerprint; wouldn't worry about that |
| 13:26.34 | yareckonirc | well, it's important to be able to id them |
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| 13:28.26 | Igel | i found my issue |
| 13:28.36 | Igel | when last user logs off system ssh, all /dev/shm owned by that user are removed. |
| 13:28.50 | Igel | Debian GNU/Linux 9.1 (stretch) |
| 13:29.10 | yareckonirc | themill, https://pastebin.com/nfFk2g5j |
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| 13:29.23 | yareckonirc | the locale is German, but 90% of the text there is English |
| 13:29.25 | _ppp | hello, i am running debian 7 , updated my apt-get upgraded, still getting: configure.ac:11: require Automake 1.14, but have 1.11.6 |
| 13:29.30 | _ppp | how can i install the latest? |
| 13:29.38 | reie | themill: thanks. Could there be a flag to "apt-get -t source" (jessie) to make it work as "/source"? It seems ansible doesn't support "/" syntax. |
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| 13:32.18 | _ppp | ? |
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| 13:32.42 | themill | reie: I think you're misusing 'source' here |
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| 13:34.54 | themill | yareckonirc: is that apt update output still the case (i.e. you've fiddled with things, is it fixed already?) |
| 13:35.10 | yareckonirc | yes, that is fresh |
| 13:35.18 | yareckonirc | it'S not fixed |
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| 13:37.09 | themill | all the keys you need seem to be there |
| 13:38.23 | themill | reie: are you trying to get source packages? or are you using 'source' when you mean 'release'? |
| 13:38.37 | reie | themill: it's a sane hack to temporary get the newest xen on jessie from stretch. A pair of new servers aren't supported by the jessie xen. |
| 13:38.45 | yareckonirc | themill, I know, it's freaking weird |
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| 13:39.36 | themill | reie: ansible's apt plugin knows «default_release: » |
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| 13:39.59 | themill | yareckonirc: any apt config that would be changing the keyring location? |
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| 13:40.50 | themill | yareckonirc: ("apt-config dump | grep trusted" might list it) |
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| 13:43.13 | TheSin | hey guys still catching up on systemd, is there a way to have systemd-cron act like cron did, specifically in the area of mailing out the output in cron.d scripts? so far all I can find is adding exit 1 to the end of the call, it seems it only emails if it thinks it failed, and the email really sucks to read compared to before |
| 13:43.15 | _ppp | hello, i am running debian 7 , updated my apt-get upgraded, still getting: configure.ac:11: require Automake 1.14, but have 1.11.6 |
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| 13:43.42 | TheSin | guess I'm kinda hoping ther eis just a switch like MAILALLOUTPUT=YES or something |
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| 13:44.46 | veek | http://storage6.static.itmages.com/i/17/1016/h_1508161412_1227637_40e86df7e3.png |
| 13:44.59 | reie | themill: yes, and it uses '-t release', which then updates lots of packages, including libc, and '/' syntax does not. https://www.pastiebin.com/59e4b7765e85a |
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| 13:45.17 | tw | ,v automake |
| 13:45.17 | judd | Package: automake on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:1.11.6-1; jessie: 1:1.14.1-4+deb8u1; stretch: 1:1.15-6; buster: 1:1.15.1-3; sid: 1:1.15.1-3 |
| 13:45.31 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 13:45.31 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 13:45.38 | themill | reie: what's the actual command you're using? |
| 13:45.41 | veek | could some take a look at that - it just freezes (perl and it's been happening with other apps) but i can move the mouse and startup shutter and take a snapshot while perl's frozen |
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| 13:45.48 | petn-randall | _ppp: Can you provide all the information above from dpkg in a single paste? |
| 13:45.54 | themill | reie: default-release works just fine for installing a single package |
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| 13:46.02 | _ppp | judd, i am using wheezy debian 7 |
| 13:46.03 | judd | No package named 'am' was found in wheezy/amd64. |
| 13:46.20 | tw | it's a bot. |
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| 13:46.33 | judd | I am so not a bot... |
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| 13:46.57 | tw | you're a monster keeping all those versions in your head then. |
| 13:46.58 | _ppp | can i install 1.14 on debian 7 ? |
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| 13:47.02 | veek | same thing going on with xargs |
| 13:47.04 | tw | _ppp: backports |
| 13:47.12 | judd | bwahahaha |
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| 13:47.18 | _ppp | ho |
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| 13:47.22 | _ppp | how* |
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| 13:47.25 | tw | !bpo |
| 13:47.25 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 13:47.56 | _ppp | tw, so i alter my apt source.list? |
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| 13:48.13 | sphalerite | Hi, I'm having an issue with nfs â I get "Operation not permitted" when trying to add files to a directory, as the user that owns them (which isn't root). What might cause this? |
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| 13:48.29 | veek | here's the xargs snap http://storage8.static.itmages.com/i/17/1016/h_1508161692_6112034_82eb2b9e00.png |
| 13:48.49 | tw | _ppp: you can install automake-1.14 from backports, but without a more comprehensive error message, I can't tell you if it will solve your problem. |
| 13:49.02 | petn-randall | (which is what I asked for) |
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| 13:49.18 | veek | ditto ruby |
| 13:50.02 | Vizva | chroot /mnt dont work? |
| 13:50.19 | Vizva | sorry |
| 13:50.20 | veek | http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/17/1016/s_1508161807_7634908_5bd131b68b.png (Ruby) |
| 13:50.22 | Vizva | wrong |
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| 13:51.21 | _ppp | tw, http://paste.debian.net/991064/ |
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| 13:52.20 | sanmarcos | I have a file which I don't own, but I Am part of the group, the file has 777 perms. Why can't I chmod it to 666 ? |
| 13:52.26 | tw | _ppp: your problem isn't apt-get, paste the output from your make command. |
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| 13:53.09 | yareckonirc | themill, my colleage has Dir::Etc::trusted "trusted.gpg"; |
| 13:53.09 | yareckonirc | Dir::Etc::trustedparts "trusted.gpg.d"; |
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| 13:53.34 | _ppp | tw, http://paste.debian.net/991065/ |
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| 13:55.23 | tw | _ppp: needs more message. The command you're running, the package you're trying to build, all this information would be helpful. |
| 13:55.25 | petn-randall | _ppp: You can upgrade to jessie, that has automake 1.14. The other benefit is that you're then still running a release that is supported. |
| 13:55.42 | tw | ^- this is also a huge deal. In May 2018, Wheezy is out of LTS. |
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| 13:55.52 | themill | yareckonirc: looks fine |
| 13:55.55 | _ppp | apt-get dist-ugrade will do that? |
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| 13:56.57 | tw | _ppp: upgrade instructions are here in the release notes: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 13:57.14 | tw | Sorry, that's a bad link. |
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| 13:57.30 | tw | _ppp: This is the one for jessie: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 13:58.14 | _ppp | i prefer solving it on wheey for now |
| 13:58.17 | rue_mohr | nowhere else to ask this, I have a ttyS4 on port 0x270 how the hell do I get udev to acknowledge it? |
| 13:58.31 | rue_mohr | its switch configured, no pnp |
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| 13:58.46 | tw | _ppp: follow the backport instructions and you should be able to install automake-1.14 |
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| 14:06.26 | _ppp | tw, i added deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main to source list, apt-get update , apt-get remove autmake and reinstall and still same version |
| 14:07.20 | yareckonirc | themill, he gets a wierd permissions error though |
| 14:07.28 | yareckonirc | maybe that's the cause of everyhting |
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| 14:08.06 | yareckonirc | if the _apt user can't use all the config info properly |
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| 14:08.08 | gpunk | add -t to apt install ... |
| 14:08.14 | _ppp | apt-get -t jessie-backports install automake |
| 14:08.23 | _ppp | same |
| 14:08.24 | tw | _ppp: you need wheezy-backports |
| 14:08.50 | tw | I should probably check if it's in backports now shouldn't I. |
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| 14:10.25 | _ppp | still it installed 1.11.6 apt-get -t wheezy-backports install automake |
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| 14:10.55 | _ppp | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:11.06 | _ppp | Setting up automake (1:1.11.6-1) ... |
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| 14:11.36 | otwieracz | In Debian Testing, I am unable to install FreeCAD: freecad : Depends: liboce10 but it is not going to be installed. This is rather clean install. Am I doing something wrong? I've got both testing and testing-updates for dists: main contrib non-free |
| 14:12.32 | tw | _ppp: if you need automake-1.14, it sounds like that's not going to work then. You'll either need to manually install it, or possibly easier, upgrade to jessie. |
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| 14:19.56 | petn-randall | Erm, there is no automake in any of the backports repos. |
| 14:21.10 | reie | themill: thanks, I'll do more debugging |
| 14:22.00 | tw | petn-randall: I noticed that, I had a brain fart. |
| 14:23.09 | tw | it occurred to me that the updated version would probably assume the /usr/bin/automake thing through alternatives, and that would potentially break a lot of other things =/ |
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| 14:38.31 | JustASlacker | holla |
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| 14:38.47 | JustASlacker | can anybody recommand a howto for making FAI bootable images |
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| 14:41.13 | elfranne | how idea how to grep the last resume/suspend event in the log ? google is telling me about jobs and CV -_- |
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| 14:42.53 | petn-randall | elfranne: It'll all be in /var/log/kern.log. |
| 14:43.30 | xenlo | Hi |
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| 14:44.17 | elfranne | petn-randall, any idea what i should look for ? |
| 14:44.18 | xenlo | Hi |
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| 14:44.49 | xenlo | Ex with vim: "vim : Depends: vim-common (= 2:8.0.0197-4) but 2:8.0.0197-4+deb9u1 is to be installed" |
| 14:45.40 | xenlo | the version is actually matching but for what ever reason, I have an extra '+deb9u1' |
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| 14:47.14 | petn-randall | elfranne: grep for 'suspend' and 'resume', you'll find the events in there. |
| 14:47.34 | petn-randall | elfranne: If you tell what you're /actually/ trying to do, we might be able to help you with that, too. :) |
| 14:49.19 | elfranne | petn-randall, just wanted to see what time i arrived at work :D. grep is case sensitive, that is why i could not find suspend/resume |
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| 14:50.05 | petn-randall | elfranne: Ah, that's how I do it, too :). 'grep -i' to the rescue! |
| 14:50.44 | elfranne | petn-randall, yep figured that out ... but thanks |
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| 14:56.29 | kion | on a .desktop file, what does the path parameter set? |
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| 15:00.18 | Elirips | Hello. Is there somewhere an archive of which package was in which version available in historical debians? |
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| 15:00.36 | Elirips | We have a little dispute, if debian potato had KDE 2.X or not.. |
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| 15:01.29 | Elirips | (i say yes, it had kde 2.x.) |
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| 15:02.57 | jorb | would it be a bad idea to go straight from wheezy to stretch? |
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| 15:04.41 | shtrb | Elirips 2.2 |
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| 15:08.05 | shtrb | Wait , relese notes doesn't have it |
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| 15:09.27 | shtrb | Elirips , I was wrong the release notes and archive content doesn't list KDE |
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| 15:09.36 | petn-randall | jorb: Yes, it's not supported and there are good chances your upgrade fails. |
| 15:10.17 | petn-randall | jorb: For example a few releases ago dpkg triggers where introduced in $release, and required in $release+1, so skipping $release would make the upgrade fail half way. |
| 15:10.40 | Elirips | shtrb: hm, was it woody then. ? |
| 15:11.51 | shtrb | yes , woody got kde 2.2 |
| 15:12.29 | shtrb | you can get that info via the archieve and debian.org/releses/name/ |
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| 15:14.46 | Elirips | shtrb: thanks |
| 15:14.51 | shtrb | np |
| 15:14.54 | awal1 | ,v tint2 |
| 15:14.55 | judd | Package: tint2 on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.11+svn20111022-3; jessie: 0.11+svn20121014-3; stretch: 0.12.12-3; buster: 15.1-1; sid: 15.1-1 |
| 15:15.08 | shtrb | ,v hostapd |
| 15:15.09 | judd | Package: hostapd on amd64 -- wheezy: 1:1.0-3+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 1:1.0-3+deb7u4; jessie-security: 1:2.3-1+deb8u3; jessie: 1:2.3-1+deb8u4; buster: 2:2.4-1; sid: 2:2.4-1; stretch: 2:2.4-1; experimental: 2:2.6-4 |
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| 15:15.35 | shtrb | judd does not take security updates ? |
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| 15:18.10 | jelly | shtrb: it does. |
| 15:18.28 | jelly | there's two security repos listed in that output. |
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| 15:19.45 | shtrb | :-/ the version looks to old for KRACK |
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| 15:35.58 | andre144k | hello all |
| 15:36.32 | kernelnewbie | hi, i wanted to ask a question, i have a lenove thinkpad running debian, before i had arch and before that windows, my battery doesn't hold for not even minutes, can reccalibration help?, also do i use powertop tlp or both? |
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| 15:37.05 | petn-randall | kernelnewbie: If it only lasts minutes, I doubt that any calibration will help it. |
| 15:37.15 | petn-randall | igeek098: ^^^ |
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| 15:37.40 | igeek098 | i just calibrated with powertop and its better |
| 15:37.47 | igeek098 | but asks for more calibration |
| 15:38.01 | andre144k | someone have experiences with ntfs3g under debian 7.11 and big files? i want copy 500gb archives from samba-share to a 4tb usb-disk with shld be formated with ntfs. can i do this safty without any problems? or better using other filesystem for that? |
| 15:38.12 | petn-randall | igeek098: How do you calibrate the battery with powertop? |
| 15:38.42 | petn-randall | andre144k: It should work, yes. |
| 15:38.49 | strk | upgrade completed, now damage recovery: (1) IPv4 configs are gone ? now only IPv6 seems configured |
| 15:39.06 | igeek098 | sorry i forgot to mention that on arch i calibrated with powertop, when it disables the screen or changes brightness or even close wifi i reopened that, may that be the problem, but i know have arh or is this hardware? |
| 15:39.17 | petn-randall | !context |
| 15:39.17 | dpkg | Try to give enough context! For example, let us know which command/program you are running, what you expected, and what you got instead. Try to be as specific as possible. If your command produced output, share the complete command (with all parameters!) and its output on https://paste.debian.net. |
| 15:39.22 | petn-randall | strk: ^^^ |
| 15:39.41 | andre144k | petn-randall, sme yrs ago i had dome problems with using ntfs3g - while mounting c: drive and changing something - after that windows was booting with checkdisk ... |
| 15:39.45 | petn-randall | strk: Also info on how you set up networking (ifupdown, network-manager, etc) would help. |
| 15:40.16 | petn-randall | andre144k: That is because newer Windows versions don't actually shutdown when clicking shutdown, but it actually suspends. |
| 15:40.37 | andre144k | so data-integration is important - its a external backup from backup... |
| 15:40.48 | andre144k | okay... thanks for informations :) |
| 15:41.15 | andre144k | ill try out ... using md5sum and so on :) |
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| 15:41.42 | petn-randall | andre144k: If you want to verify it's integrity, use something like hashdeep to create checksum for all files and compare it before and after. |
| 15:41.50 | petn-randall | s/it's/its/ |
| 15:42.08 | andre144k | via md5sum? |
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| 15:42.38 | petn-randall | andre144k: It also supports newer hashing algorithms. |
| 15:43.03 | andre144k | oki .... thanks :) |
| 15:43.14 | andre144k | ill write a little script for that :) |
| 15:43.26 | andre144k | love bash-scripting :-* |
| 15:43.49 | andre144k | and hate powershell f*** =) |
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| 15:47.33 | strk | petn-randall: I was relying on network-manager to do its things, used to have a "manually" configured connection |
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| 15:47.45 | strk | right now I need to manually use ifconfig/route to be here |
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| 15:48.09 | strk | I never learnt to use the network manager on commandline |
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| 15:48.50 | strk | my NIC is called eth2 |
| 15:49.04 | Mibka | I'm running proxmox 4.4 which is based on debian 8.9 but I'm running into an LVM issue which we just figured out in #lvm. Upgrading lvm2 to a more recent version will solve my issues... But does there exist a backport repository or anything containing a newerver lvm2 version for debian jessie? |
| 15:49.06 | strk | the /etc/network/interfaces.d directory is mepty |
| 15:49.07 | strk | *empty |
| 15:49.26 | strk | interfaces has auto lo and iface lo inet loopback |
| 15:50.00 | petn-randall | strk: That would /etc/network/interfaces{,.d} are the config files for ifupdown, not network-manager. |
| 15:50.05 | strk | nmcli c # gives 2 entries for eth2 |
| 15:50.07 | petn-randall | s/That would// |
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| 15:50.18 | mutante | Mibka: did you consider upgrading the whole system to stretch? since jessie is already "oldstable" now |
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| 15:50.43 | strk | petn-randall: were do I find configs for network-manager ? |
| 15:51.13 | strk | dunno why I keep getting 2 eth2 configurations, I delete one but keeps pupping up |
| 15:51.26 | Mibka | mutante it's actually a proxmox distro, based on debian jessie. I don't think upgrading to stretch will work without breaking proxmox.. But maybe I can upgrade proxmox to a newer versions, but I'm not sure if that won't bring a lot of other issues with it ... :/ |
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| 15:51.35 | petn-randall | !proxxmox |
| 15:51.37 | Mibka | mutante so for now I was just hoping I could upgrade lvm2 only |
| 15:51.40 | petn-randall | !proxmox |
| 15:51.40 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <LXC> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial ##proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
| 15:52.04 | petn-randall | Mibka: We can't help you with proxmox or mutante, we only support Debian proper in here for various social and technical reasons. |
| 15:52.18 | petn-randall | !based on |
| 15:52.18 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 15:52.50 | petn-randall | strk: You manipulate it via 'nmcli', I wouldn't manually change config files. |
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| 15:54.06 | strk | nmcli c show eth2 | grep ipv4.addresses # confirms there are two of them, one with ipv4, the other w/out |
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| 15:54.58 | strk | the one with ipv4 addresses is set to "autoconnect" |
| 15:55.02 | petn-randall | strk: Can you share that output with us on https://paste.debian.net? |
| 15:55.08 | strk | but I dunno why the other keeps kickin in |
| 15:55.46 | petn-randall | "nmcli c show eth2" that is |
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| 15:56.53 | strk | hm, cannot reach that, still have problems with routing table looks like |
| 15:57.35 | petn-randall | strk: Do you have a GUI installed on that system? |
| 15:57.35 | strk | should be here: http://strk.kbt.io/tmp/eth2.list |
| 15:57.37 | strk | please check |
| 15:57.45 | strk | there's a mate desktop |
| 15:57.48 | DammitJim | anything you guys know I should do besides turning WiFi off due to this new WAP2 security issue? |
| 15:58.07 | strk | (hard to use now, dunno why, lacks contours of windows... but I'm postponing this problem) |
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| 15:58.30 | DammitJim | WPA, not WAP |
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| 15:58.49 | petn-randall | strk: If you have a network-manager GUI installed, just remove the connection and recreate it. |
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| 15:59.08 | petn-randall | DammitJim: Just update, there's already a fix. |
| 15:59.11 | strk | petn-randall: I did a few mins ago, but a new one keeps popping up |
| 15:59.15 | strk | as if it is re-created automatically |
| 15:59.23 | strk | so then I'm back to 2 |
| 15:59.24 | DammitJim | petn-randall, really? Oh, I didn't even know that |
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| 16:03.55 | petn-randall | dpkg: krackattacks is <reply>Just update your wpa_supplicant or hostapd. It has been fixed in 2:2.4-1+deb9u1 for stretch, 1:2.3-1+deb8u5 for jessie, and 1:1.0-3+deb7u4 for wheezy. See also https://www.debian.org/security/2017/dsa-3999. See https://www.krackattacks.com/ for details on the attack on WPA2. |
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| 16:03.55 | dpkg | petn-randall: okay |
| 16:04.00 | petn-randall | !krackattacks |
| 16:04.00 | dpkg | Just update your wpa_supplicant or hostapd. It has been fixed in 2:2.4-1+deb9u1 for stretch, 1:2.3-1+deb8u5 for jessie, and 1:1.0-3+deb7u4 for wheezy. See also https://www.debian.org/security/2017/dsa-3999. See https://www.krackattacks.com/ for details on the attack on WPA2. |
| 16:04.11 | petn-randall | That'll probably save us some time in the next few days. |
| 16:04.52 | algun|home | So now all file names which don't need quoting are indented by 1 space to fint the apostrophe for those that do? |
| 16:05.17 | algun|home | fint -> fit |
| 16:05.45 | algun|home | fit the apostrophe for -> align with the first character of |
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| 16:07.33 | petn-randall | algun|home: Wrong channel? Or you need to provide a lot more context to make sense. |
| 16:10.00 | algun|home | petn-randall: running testing? |
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| 16:11.18 | petn-randall | algun|home: What file names are you talking about? What commands are you running? What output do you get? What output do you expect? |
| 16:11.28 | petn-randall | left his magic 8ball at work. |
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| 16:12.44 | algun|home | petn-randall: if you're running testing, and you've recently updated, try ls in your (assumingly messy) $HOME |
| 16:13.01 | bitlan | root@debian:~# apt-get install build-dep |
| 16:13.05 | bitlan | not found package |
| 16:13.06 | bitlan | why ? |
| 16:13.25 | petn-randall | bitlan: There is no packages named "build-dep". |
| 16:13.32 | bitlan | to day i was installed on phisical machine and i can install build-dep without any problem |
| 16:13.35 | bitlan | the same version |
| 16:13.44 | petn-randall | bitlan: You probably want "apt-get build-dep"? |
| 16:13.46 | jelly | !wayttd bitlan |
| 16:13.47 | bitlan | i add non-free and contrib |
| 16:13.47 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, bitlan? |
| 16:14.15 | bitlan | i need install IMQ module |
| 16:14.32 | jelly | bitlan: is this a third party kernel module? |
| 16:14.44 | bitlan | jelly: IMQ? |
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| 16:14.48 | jelly | yes |
| 16:14.58 | bitlan | IMQ is a patch for virtual net interface |
| 16:15.14 | jelly | bitlan: is it a patch for the linux kernel? |
| 16:15.26 | bitlan | yes |
| 16:15.27 | bitlan | https://github.com/imq/linuximq/wiki/WhatIs |
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| 16:15.56 | jelly | bitlan: you want to install build-essential and appropriate linux-headers package, eg. linux-headers-amd64 |
| 16:16.41 | bitlan | hmm in FAQ i see only |
| 16:16.42 | bitlan | apt-get install libncurses5-dev build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r) |
| 16:16.42 | bitlan | apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) |
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| 16:17.41 | bitlan | jelly: could you little help me? i have few questions |
| 16:17.50 | bitlan | i never recompile kernel ;) |
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| 16:18.17 | bitlan | so i need recombile full kernel or i can add only one module? |
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| 16:19.19 | jelly | that depends on imq |
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| 16:19.43 | jelly | there are many third party kernel drivers that can be built standalone |
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| 16:20.14 | jorb | petn-randall: thanks for the tip, makes sense. might be a fun Leeroy Jenkins experience though. |
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| 16:20.57 | bitlan | jelly: do you have any tutorial? everything what i found is for older kernel.. |
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| 16:21.14 | bitlan | and few commands isn't match |
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| 16:21.59 | anexit_ | Anyone have any 411 on this error? |
| 16:22.13 | anexit_ | no key association found for SA |
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| 16:22.26 | anexit_ | running racoon ipsec... doesn't seem to affect anything |
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| 16:23.03 | jelly | bitlan: if imq people say you need to patch and build from source, then you probably need to patch and build from source |
| 16:23.13 | jelly | or checkout their own kernel tree and build that |
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| 16:24.57 | jelly | bitlan: you might want to ask in #netfilter since this code seems to mess with their stuff |
| 16:27.06 | bitlan | jelly: thanks for help |
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| 16:46.39 | dewp | hey guys. i installed a basic system but it does not include build-essential to build my lan driver. i can't download the build-essential binaries or at least i dont find the location. is there something like "build-essential with all dependencies"? :-) |
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| 16:47.16 | dewp | (to transfer it via usb to my laptop) |
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| 16:54.03 | petn-randall | dewp: What happens if you run 'apt install build-essential'? |
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| 16:55.35 | fly_agaric | hello a question the binary screen creates a file named screenlog.0 is the file overwritten after I restart the programm which is run inside screen |
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| 17:05.37 | galex-713_ | should I first ask on debian-user mailing-list? |
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| 17:32.10 | Cyb3r-Assassin | looking for a repo for sources.lst that offers MySQl5.5 still. I'm getting the following error on Jessie https://bpaste.net/show/23c54ef9590b |
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| 17:37.39 | iodev | metaphysician, jim: don't start this again! you like vim, fine, you like emacs, fine, it's software not religion! |
| 17:38.30 | greycat | !start an editor war |
| 17:38.30 | dpkg | vim users need to get a life. |
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| 17:38.55 | annadane | https://www.xkcd.com/378/ |
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| 17:43.30 | f3bruary | weird, when I cat a csv file and do cut -d ',' -f 3, it echoes that column in random order. But when I add | head -n 10, it echoes them in order |
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| 17:44.05 | greycat | You're mistaken about something, but it's hard to tell what. cut and head don't do anything random. |
| 17:45.06 | Schwarzbaer | Hi. I just learned about https://www.krackattacks.com/. I assume there's a patch in Debian already? Also, are only connecting devices vulnerable, or do routers require patches, too? |
| 17:45.33 | shtrb | Everything is affected |
| 17:45.38 | f3bruary | not sure what I could be doing wrong. It's simply "cat file.csv | cut -d ',' -f 3" VS "cat file.csv | cut -d ',' -f 3 | head -n 10" |
| 17:45.47 | abrotman | eh, the URL tells you? |
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| 17:46.07 | abrotman | Schwarzbaer: and yes, WPA has a patch for supported versions of Debian (not sure if it's hit Unstable yet) |
| 17:46.19 | abrotman | sorry, the "wpa" package has a new version |
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| 17:47.03 | JustASlacker | anybody got an idea how to make a bootable fai image |
| 17:47.22 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Schwarzbaer about krackattacks |
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| 17:48.50 | Vin3 | Hi guys |
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| 17:49.00 | Vin3 | little help here plz |
| 17:49.14 | Vin3 | my gnome desktop is freezing all the time |
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| 17:49.32 | Vin3 | everything is freezing but mouse |
| 17:49.44 | Vin3 | debian 9 btw |
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| 17:50.13 | Vin3 | any ideas? |
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| 17:50.31 | somiaj | it might just be xorg/waylend freezing. If you have an ssh server running you maybe able to ssh into the system after it freezes and try to see what happened. |
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| 17:50.49 | annadane | perhaps xsession errors has a hint |
| 17:51.24 | Vin3 | rty guys Ill try |
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| 17:53.52 | strk | (1) Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/2' failed in libnm-glib. |
| 17:54.10 | strk | does it help understanding why network-manager is not behaving correctly for me ? (forgets connections I create) |
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| 17:55.00 | kre10s | How do I get apt to tell me the effect a held package has? like which packages could be upgraded if the package was not held? |
| 17:55.17 | greycat | simply do "apt-get install pkgname" |
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| 17:56.35 | somiaj | kre10s: you can do a --dry-run or --simulate to see what would happen without doing anything. Though you would have to change if the package was held or not to see the difference. |
| 17:57.27 | strk | I suspect IPv6 is what is breaking all my setup |
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| 17:58.33 | Schwarzbaer | Thanks, abrotman |
| 17:58.42 | kre10s | hmm. I want to install libsdl2-dev but get libpam-systemd : Depends: systemd (= 235-2) |
| 17:58.45 | kre10s | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.54 | Dagger | ah yes, the evil v6. which is configured separately to v4 and thus has no impact on whether you have v4 or not |
| 17:59.40 | awal1 | kre10s, I personally prefer aptitude in this cases (aptitude -s full-upgrade, for example) |
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| 18:00.45 | annadane | kre10s, is this stable? |
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| 18:02.55 | kre10s | nah testing |
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| 18:03.23 | annadane | then you should probably ask in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 18:03.46 | annadane | and know what you're getting into when you use a development edition of debian such as testing or unstable |
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| 18:04.00 | annadane | but yes, do recommend aptitude |
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| 18:09.34 | gusteru | hello, any one can help me to install php5.3 on debian8, a repository or some of this, please |
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| 18:11.30 | jelly | ,v php5-cgi |
| 18:11.32 | judd | Package: php5-cgi on amd64 -- wheezy: 5.4.45-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u11; jessie: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.30+dfsg-0+deb8u1 |
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| 18:11.59 | jelly | looks like you'll have to build it from source, gusteru |
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| 18:13.12 | pja | Isn't 5.3 going to be chock full of security holes at this point? Expect it to be compromised if anyone gets access to it. |
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| 18:14.08 | somiaj | yup, that will be one issue with using a version that dosen't have active security support. |
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| 18:14.46 | gusteru | pja dosen't matter security because it's a local server .. on new php dosen't my project |
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| 18:18.04 | tdn | Are /vmlinuz and /initrd.img no longer used in debian 9.2? Is it safe to boot without them? |
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| 18:19.07 | jelly | tdn: they're no longed used in grub. If you had grub in debian 5 those links were also not used |
| 18:19.34 | tdn | jelly, I think they were created sometime in debian 7. |
| 18:19.38 | tdn | jelly, during installation. |
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| 18:19.45 | jelly | they were useless even then |
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| 18:19.56 | tdn | jelly, ok. Wonder why they were created then. |
| 18:20.06 | somiaj | the links are still created, unsure how they get used. |
| 18:20.08 | tdn | I will try to reboot. Hopefully, it will come back up :) |
| 18:20.14 | tdn | somiaj, ok |
| 18:20.25 | jelly | leftover code and defaults |
| 18:20.30 | somiaj | tdn: note debian also supports LILO and LILO might be using them. |
| 18:20.52 | jelly | find me someone actually using lilo |
| 18:21.40 | somiaj | it has been a while, but I do see the very very rare LILO user come through here. |
| 18:21.42 | JustASlacker | everybody in ##slackware |
| 18:21.58 | shtrb | oh the memories |
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| 18:22.26 | awal1 | lilo, at least Joachim Wiedorn in Debian :P |
| 18:22.58 | JustASlacker | elilo has support for UEFI too ^_^ |
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| 18:24.17 | ZSky | Hi! |
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| 18:24.40 | ZSky | Is it possible to XOR an input file (2GB) with a 1MB-key with command line? |
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| 18:25.27 | ZSky | Something like: cat 2gbfile |xor 1mbfile.key > 2gbfile.encrypted ? |
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| 18:27.51 | th0r | ZSky, seems to be lots of info in duckduckgo for that function |
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| 18:28.49 | metastable | ZSky: Does this fall under "rolling your own crypto?" |
| 18:29.44 | JustASlacker | not sure Id call that encrypted |
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| 18:31.25 | JyZyXEL | nfs-common[9102]: Starting NFS common utilities: statd |
| 18:31.26 | JyZyXEL | nfs-common[9102]: Not starting: portmapper is not running ... (warning). |
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| 18:35.06 | JyZyXEL | tried purging rpcbind to fix the issue: https://paste.debian.net/991150/ |
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| 18:35.49 | JyZyXEL | maybe because: root 1698 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< Sep13 0:00 [rpciod] |
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| 18:36.45 | jelly | JyZyXEL: what is agp? |
| 18:37.39 | JyZyXEL | sudo apt-get purge |
| 18:38.37 | jelly | JyZyXEL: looks like a possible bug in rpcbind, do you have a custom kernel on that jessie install? |
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| 18:38.49 | JyZyXEL | Linux ha 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.43-2+deb8u3 (2017-08-15) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 18:39.00 | jelly | pretty standard |
| 18:39.28 | jelly | eh, it will fix itself after reboot |
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| 18:40.19 | JyZyXEL | yeah, now i gotta reboot before i start upgrading to stretch |
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| 18:40.40 | jelly | JyZyXEL: anything in lsof -n|grep rpcbind.sock ? |
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| 18:41.11 | jelly | OMG you gotta reboot! How will you EVER live with that |
| 18:41.14 | JyZyXEL | jelly: nothing even with sudo |
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| 18:43.48 | strk | what's the simplest way to obtain auto-login in X ? I was using lightdm but upgrade to Debian 9 broke it and it's being hard to fix |
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| 18:44.05 | strk | so I'm thinking... should I Just not use a DM at all and directly start X as the target user ? |
| 18:44.18 | awal1 | !nodm |
| 18:44.18 | dpkg | In systemd, "systemctl set-default multi-user.target", or remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove gdm3 kdm lightdm lxdm nodm sddm slim wdm xdm". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
| 18:44.29 | jhutchins_wk | RedHat's going to be doing security patches for PHP 5.3 for the life of RHEL 6. |
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| 18:44.52 | strk | the above URL is a 404 |
| 18:45.11 | jelly | ,v nodm |
| 18:45.12 | judd | Package: nodm on amd64 -- jessie: 0.11-1.3; wheezy: 0.11-1.3; buster: 0.13-1.3; sid: 0.13-1.3; stretch: 0.13-1.3 |
| 18:45.20 | awal1 | apt-get install nodm then config it |
| 18:45.22 | jelly | the package is not a 404 |
| 18:45.51 | strk | thanks, will try nodm |
| 18:46.08 | jhutchins_wk | strk: If your DE doesn't have a setting for auto-login, you can edit the lightdm conf file (or possibly the greeter conf file), which has an example of how to enable auto-login. |
| 18:46.32 | jhutchins_wk | strk: It's possible that the location for that configuration changed with the upgrade. |
| 18:46.57 | strk | jhutchins_wk: lightdm.conf has examples but they do not work, and I found two configuration files, and tried in both (lightdm --show-config gives hints about where configs are defined) |
| 18:47.33 | jhutchins_wk | strk: Pretty obvious, but you did restart lightdm after changing the config, right? |
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| 18:47.43 | strk | yes |
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| 18:48.26 | strk | http://strk.kbt.io/tmp/lightdm-show-config |
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| 18:48.39 | strk | does it look wrong ? or where would lightdm log errors if it is wrong ? |
| 18:48.58 | awal1 | strk, if you want autologin, i don't see the point of using a standard DM such as lightdm, just use nodm |
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| 18:49.18 | jelly | !nodm |
| 18:49.18 | dpkg | In systemd, "systemctl set-default multi-user.target", or remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove gdm3 kdm lightdm lxdm nodm sddm slim wdm xdm". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (https://github.com/spanezz/nodm). |
| 18:49.27 | jelly | no more 404 |
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| 18:49.42 | strk | yeah, will use nodm, it's just a discomfort that things break un upgrade (I have bigger problems with network-=manager anyway) |
| 18:49.46 | strk | !nonetwork-manager |
| 18:49.49 | strk | tried :) |
| 18:50.11 | jhutchins_wk | ,v lightdm |
| 18:50.12 | judd | Package: lightdm on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.2.2-4; jessie: 1.10.3-3; stretch: 1.18.3-1; buster: 1.18.3-4; sid: 1.18.3-4; experimental: 1.18.3-5 |
| 18:50.13 | strk | it's a fixed machine, ethernet connected, I really only need a fixed configuration |
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| 18:50.49 | jelly | just set up ifupdown then |
| 18:50.52 | jelly | !interfaces |
| 18:50.52 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration . See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
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| 18:51.38 | jelly | n-m in debian ignores interfaces that are automatically enabled in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 18:52.44 | strk | ah, that's useful |
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| 18:53.55 | vieirabr | I was reading about the Krack and I realized that already a update about it. |
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| 18:56.04 | strk | jelly: how do I test the ifupdown configuration after writing it ? |
| 18:56.09 | strk | should I restart network-manager ? |
| 18:56.22 | greycat | Ultimately, rebooting is the final test. |
| 18:56.47 | ZSky | metastable: yes :) |
| 18:56.48 | greycat | restarting various things can be used to test pieces and circumstances |
| 18:56.48 | jhutchins_wk | You can restart the networking service, but that doesn't restart all forms of interface. |
| 18:57.03 | ZSky | JustASlacker: why not if key length = filesize? |
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| 18:58.12 | jelly | ZSky: your initial query did not ask how to one time pad, it did 2048timepad |
| 18:58.21 | somiaj | jhutchins_wk: might be better just to do ifdown --allow auto && ifup --allow auto to restart the interfaces (unsure if the networking script does the ifdown part) |
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| 18:58.38 | somiaj | ^^ for whoever you were talking to |
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| 18:59.07 | strk | for me, will try as soon as dist-upgrade completes (dunno why, but it had things to do after the first dist-upgrade) |
| 18:59.35 | jelly | jhutchins_wk: restarting networking has not done what you want for a VERY long time; I'm not sure if it was always broken |
| 18:59.36 | jhutchins_wk | somiaj: I don't remember which kind of interface it was that the script didn't restart properly, but I remember that that was the reason it had the deprication warning. |
| 19:00.11 | jelly | it was definitely broken after allow-hotplug happened |
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| 19:00.18 | strk | ouch no space left on device, that's probably why dist-upgrade still had things to do |
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| 19:01.17 | JustASlacker | ZSky: because it wasnt the same length |
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| 19:03.42 | ZSky | oh right |
| 19:03.43 | ZSky | sorry :) |
| 19:03.52 | ZSky | that's right i changed my idea in between |
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| 19:04.11 | ZSky | how is called the cipher when key length = file length... it has a name |
| 19:04.15 | kalipso | hey guys, i cant update because of duplicate sources.list entry. one is amd64 one i386 packages in /var/lib/apt/lists/security.* i thought i have to delete them in /etc/apt/sources.list but there is no doubled entry. does someone know how to solve that? |
| 19:04.56 | jelly | ZSky: it's called "one time pad" |
| 19:05.11 | somiaj | kalipso: what to share your sources.list and any additional files so we can see what you have, and maybe the error you get from apt-get update as well at paste.debian.net |
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| 19:05.39 | kalipso | somiaj: i will, error is on other laptop but i try |
| 19:05.48 | tdn | jelly, somiaj: the box came back up, thanks :) |
| 19:05.56 | annadane | you can always termbin it |
| 19:06.03 | annadane | cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 19:07.06 | kalipso | nice |
| 19:07.11 | kalipso | termbin.com/gs9a |
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| 19:08.54 | kalipso | and error is in termbin.com/u5w6 but it is partly in german |
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| 19:11.16 | annadane | dpkg: tell kalipso about localized errors |
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| 19:12.28 | kalipso | annadane: is that permanent, and how can i reverse it since its not my pc |
| 19:12.57 | n4dir | kalipso: there is a german debian channel where you could ask for a translation ( i could translate it too, assuming it ain't too long) |
| 19:13.06 | annadane | it is not permanent |
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| 19:15.58 | ZSky | Thanks jelly, that was the expression i was looking for, thanks! |
| 19:16.06 | ZSky | is there a way to do it from bash? |
| 19:16.20 | ZSky | cat myfile |xor keyofsamelength > myfile.encrypted? |
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| 19:16.37 | greycat | If there is such a command, it'll probably be in openssl. |
| 19:17.10 | oracularmoufflon | Evening, not using Debian but Raspbian(rpi version), anybody know how to autologin to the console? Strech specifically |
| 19:17.32 | greycat | !raspbian |
| 19:17.32 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 19:17.56 | oracularmoufflon | Ah thanks, sorry about that |
| 19:18.06 | strk | how to get firefox on debian 9 ? |
| 19:18.15 | greycat | apt-get install firefox-esr |
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| 19:18.24 | kalipso | annadane: you command still gave me german output. but since its only the last sentence off the error message it is: "W: Try >>apt-get update<<, to solve the problem." |
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| 19:19.01 | kalipso | so is the source.list looking suspicious or does it seem fine? |
| 19:19.09 | strk | oh, what's up with "apt-get" vs. "apt" ? |
| 19:19.16 | strk | should I learn to drop the "-get" ? |
| 19:19.42 | JustASlacker | yes |
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| 19:20.19 | strk | !nodm |
| 19:20.19 | dpkg | In systemd, "systemctl set-default multi-user.target", or remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove gdm3 kdm lightdm lxdm nodm sddm slim wdm xdm". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (https://github.com/spanezz/nodm). |
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| 19:20.25 | annadane | man apt or man apt-get should describe the differences |
| 19:20.26 | greycat | I still prefer apt-get over apt. |
| 19:20.33 | annadane | i forget which though the man page for apt-get is more comprehensive |
| 19:20.48 | annadane | (i would check the manpage myself but i'm on sid and i might have different manpages) |
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| 19:21.10 | annadane | (and i'm too lazy to go on the debian website :D) |
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| 19:21.29 | JustASlacker | ZSky: http://www.red-bean.com/onetime/ |
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| 19:22.16 | towo` | kalipso, no, the sources.list looks not fine |
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| 19:23.02 | wizzy_ | Hi. I was wondering if anyone in here should be using debirf and knows how to integrate the intel-microcode package? |
| 19:23.24 | JustASlacker | steffen@schwebel.onlineWIkXsK-WXt_TU3GS60_eLgt |
| 19:23.29 | JustASlacker | uh oh |
| 19:25.10 | strk | so ifup seems to work (great) on reboot, lightdm still not |
| 19:25.29 | kalipso | so the error says there is a duplicate in /var/lib/apt/lists/ one is a *-amd64_Packages one *-i386_Packages but i think just deleting one of them would break dependencys or can i just go for it? |
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| 19:28.33 | towo` | kalipso, open your eyes in your sources.list |
| 19:28.49 | towo` | kalipso, you have all entries double |
| 19:29.19 | towo` | kalipso, example: deb http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/debian/ jessie main = deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free |
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| 19:32.17 | strk | ok next issue (lightdm I'm postponing): kodi: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'dbiplus::DbErrors' - Aborted (core dumped) |
| 19:32.31 | strk | ideas ? |
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| 19:36.58 | pikaro | hi! after a recent dist-upgrade of stable, my apt-get now uses > 50mb of ram for pretty much everything it does. since this is a tiny test server with only 128mb of ram, it makes it impossible to change anything about packages - gets killed instantly. is this kind of memory use to be expected by now, or would that be a bug? and what might be causing it? |
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| 19:38.26 | somiaj | pikaro: this on stretch? |
| 19:38.26 | kalipso | towo`: they are the same? arent the non-free just properitary packages? |
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| 19:38.53 | towo` | kalipso, the repository, aka tghe url is the same! |
| 19:39.13 | pikaro | somiaj, yup |
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| 19:39.23 | towo` | kalipso, and please start using your brain |
| 19:39.39 | towo` | kalipso, deb http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/debian/ jessie main = deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main |
| 19:39.54 | somiaj | pikaro: so you noticed the difference between apt 1.4.7 and apt 1.4.8, did downgrading apt back to 1.4.7 use less memory (making sure it isn't some othe rissue) |
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| 19:40.33 | sacarde | hi |
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| 19:40.53 | kalipso | towo`: sorry that im not used to debian. in my opinion it is not clear that "ftp.*" == "httpredir.*" and "jessie main" == "jessie main contrib non-free" |
| 19:40.57 | pikaro | didn't try downgrading it - I'd have to install manually since, well, it gets killed |
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| 19:41.14 | sacarde | I am looking for "Debian Administrator's Handbook" 9 |
| 19:41.34 | somiaj | kalipso: they aren't ==, there are differences, but currently deb.debian.org is the prefered 'redirector' mirror to use |
| 19:41.38 | somiaj | !deb.debian.org |
| 19:41.38 | dpkg | deb.debian.org is a mirror network that is backed by international content delivery networks and for most users, this is the most reliable <mirror> to use in the <sources.list>. From Debian 9 "Stretch" onwards, apt queries SRV records in DNS which then send it off to a CDN. Older apt will get an HTTP redirect from deb.debian.org to the same CDNs. See http://deb.debian.org/ for more details. |
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| 19:42.21 | somiaj | kalipso: they all work, the old ftp.country_code.debian.org were more just a round robin dns, and there are much better ways to deal with mirror redirection, those are just still around for backwards compadability and don't work as good as the newer redirectors. |
| 19:42.58 | kalipso | somiaj: thanks for that explanation |
| 19:43.06 | dirac1 | Hello guys i want to run a post script after running an upgrade with apt-get, and i found a guide, but i'm not sure if it is working, i made a script to change ownership to some files and a binary and then i added "80update" (file) with this inside: DPkg::Post-Invoke {"/bin/sh /root/bin/myscript";}; |
| 19:44.22 | pikaro | can't even check available packages since apt-cache also gets killed |
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| 19:45.54 | annadane | sacarde, 9 doesn't exist yet |
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| 19:45.58 | annadane | it's still in 8 |
| 19:46.26 | strk | can "nodm" be configured to start with a non-root user ? |
| 19:46.32 | annadane | you can of course look at https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
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| 19:48.28 | pikaro | oh well if it's gonna be that major an operation I should try on the weekend, though maybe there was an obvious fix. thanks for the pointer, though |
| 19:48.33 | somiaj | sacarde: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/debian-handbook is the package in the debian archives, I do see a .git file, but not a webbased browser for it, you could download the current git, but I don't see anything working on a debian 9 version -- though what changes do you notice need to be done? |
| 19:48.49 | pikaro | *thought |
| 19:49.07 | somiaj | strk: what are you trying to achive, just have a non-root user automatically login? |
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| 19:49.28 | jhutchins_wk | sacarde: https://debian-handbook.info/ |
| 19:49.58 | jhutchins_wk | sacarde: https://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#debian-handbook |
| 19:50.04 | sacarde | is for 8 |
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| 19:50.29 | jhutchins_wk | sacarde: That's because you haven't written the update for 9 yet. |
| 19:50.47 | strk | there, I found the culprit: autologin-user-timeout |
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| 19:50.58 | strk | that configuration, for ligthdm, needs to be non-zero! |
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| 19:51.14 | petn-randall | sacarde: The basic concepts haven't changed, anything that has you can read up on in the stretch release notes. |
| 19:51.17 | jhutchins_wk | strk: Ah. That might be a change too. |
| 19:51.17 | strk | somiaj: yes, non-root user automatically login, it looks like a timeout of 1 makes it work now, with lightdm |
| 19:51.28 | strk | jhutchins_wk: it was hard to spot |
| 19:51.46 | strk | I'd rather wait 0 seconds, but it doens't work.. |
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| 19:52.17 | somiaj | sacarde: if you notice something doesn't apply to stretch or is outdated, you can submit a bug. You could also submit a wishlish bug for a debian 9 version, though the handbook should be just fine as it stands. |
| 19:52.38 | annadane | i guess i'll take the opportunity to ask how one can contribute to the handbook |
| 19:52.39 | jhutchins_wk | strk: I have mine set to 0 on 9.1. |
| 19:52.47 | annadane | though not sure if i want to, my schedule is fairly full already... |
| 19:52.49 | strk | 9.1 is the version of what ? |
| 19:52.53 | annadane | i'm sure the handbook describes how |
| 19:53.15 | strk | lightdm is version 1.18.3-1 here |
| 19:53.17 | jhutchins_wk | annadane: Yeah, there should be a "how to contribute" entry in it. |
| 19:53.33 | jhutchins_wk | strk: I'm on stretch 9.1 (about to update). |
| 19:53.52 | sacarde | ok ok... |
| 19:54.22 | sacarde | thankyou |
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| 19:54.50 | jhutchins_wk | sacarde: There's a saying that anything in linux that is fully documented is also deprecated and obsolete. |
| 19:55.15 | Mathisen | lol |
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| 19:55.41 | sacarde | eh |
| 19:55.52 | Mathisen | there is some truth to it doh :) |
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| 19:56.23 | petn-randall | jhutchins_wk: I tend to disagree, because that saying gives projects an excuse to not even try documenting things, but I get your point. |
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| 19:57.17 | jhutchins_wk | petn-randall: Projects do tend to run ahead of documentation, which often can't be updated until the final form of software updates is implemented. |
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| 20:02.16 | ryouma | that's why docstrings are useful for things that use them |
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| 20:19.07 | linuxthefish | hey, in the debian live ISO with cinnamon wnere is the install menu? |
| 20:19.36 | somiaj | it is best to not use the live images to install |
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| 20:19.50 | somiaj | and if you are going to install from the live image, boot into the installer (not the live enviroment) and install from there. |
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| 20:20.03 | linuxthefish | ah ok thanks, it's the only DVD i have right now |
| 20:20.21 | somiaj | at the start of the boot you should be able to select boot into the installer |
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| 20:21.20 | linuxthefish | thanks somiaj found it! |
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| 20:30.12 | anonrate | I'm about to go purchase a 165Hz monitor, will I have issues setting the fresh rate to run at that or 144Hz on Debian with KDE? |
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| 20:36.20 | jhutchins_wk | anonrate: If you do I hope you'll tell us, and if you figure out how to fix it you share that too. |
| 20:36.53 | anonrate | So you're saying nothing higher than 60Hz will show up? |
| 20:36.57 | jhutchins_wk | anonrate: Hardware compatibility reports come voluntarily from users who buy the hardware, if someone doesn't bother to report it we never know. |
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| 20:38.01 | anonrate | Does X suport higher refresh rates than 60Hz? |
| 20:38.41 | jhutchins_wk | anonrate: Pretty sure it does... |
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| 20:39.08 | anonrate | Good, cause I don't want to have to return another monitor. This will be my third if I have too. Lol. I'm very picky. |
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| 20:41.50 | annadane | the folks at #debian-kde on irc.oftc.net may know more specifically |
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| 20:42.24 | Dzxk | Hello guy's, I have a question, do u think i can turn a local website just for me like a blog on a raspberry pi zero w? :) |
| 20:42.54 | jhutchins_wk | . |
| 20:43.16 | jhutchins_wk | Dzxk: Turn? |
| 20:43.20 | anonrate | Gotta make sure it also works with my GPU too. It has GSYNC, but my NVIDEA card rig uses different monitors. Is there a Hardware IRC or somethign that I can ask about that? |
| 20:43.42 | Dzxk | Turn the appache service and work well ? |
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| 20:44.49 | jhutchin1_wk | Dzxk: Turn? |
| 20:44.54 | jhutchin1_wk | anonrate: Sorry, network change. You might be able to get some info at https://www.x.org/wiki/ |
| 20:45.28 | Dzxk | Run if u prefere |
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| 20:45.42 | jhutchin1_wk | Ah. Yeah, a pi is going to be able to handle that. |
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| 20:46.20 | anonrate | No worries. It's just an expensive monitor, so I need to make sure. Lol. I don't game or anything, so I wanna make sure the refresh rate is detected. |
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| 20:47.26 | Dzxk | It's a Pi zero, not a regular pi. I've saw on google, the pi zero can host a little website like only html but with php it's difficult |
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| 20:48.42 | jhutchin1_wk | Dzxk: Yeah, if you get a lot of load then rendering PHP starts to take some CPU. |
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| 20:49.09 | jhutchin1_wk | Dzxk: You can do caching and combing/optimizing, that helps. |
| 20:49.38 | jhutchin1_wk | I give up on this network, later from home... |
| 20:49.43 | greycat | or you could use a machine that's adequate for the intended job |
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| 20:50.29 | at0m | Dzxk: oh, you're corssposting. |
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| 20:50.34 | at0m | cross even |
| 20:50.36 | _sfiguser | hello all, is there a way to manage compiled programs ? |
| 20:50.46 | awal1 | any suggestion on a script for call 'xtrlock' after x time of inactivity? |
| 20:50.46 | _sfiguser | i mean i want to compile programs from source.. |
| 20:50.53 | greycat | is stow still a thing people use? |
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| 20:51.10 | _sfiguser | but also manage them...like have a list |
| 20:51.14 | _sfiguser | or uninstall it |
| 20:51.26 | _sfiguser | or use them as they were installed with a package manager |
| 20:51.34 | Guifle | hello there, I copied a folder to a thumb drive, which ended up showing higher number of copied files than original, like "copied 340/335".. |
| 20:51.47 | greycat | _sfiguser: well, there is/was stow. There may be others. |
| 20:52.04 | _sfiguser | greycat, stow ? |
| 20:52.18 | _sfiguser | greycat, there was ? there isn't anything else now ? |
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| 20:52.50 | greycat | Nobody else is chiming in so I just gave the one answer I knew. |
| 20:53.04 | Guifle | anyway, looks ok now..thank you |
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| 21:00.06 | netcat | Dzxk, you could even do that on a cellphone. |
| 21:00.51 | netcat | Have a blog/irc server/xmpp server/web server in your pocket |
| 21:01.34 | Dzxk | netcat i ask cause i think i'll host maybe long php script on it |
| 21:02.18 | netcat | Dzxk, you can have php mariadb or mysql, whatever you want |
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| 21:03.05 | netcat | and use orbot and use it as hidden tor servers and you don't even need a domain name |
| 21:03.33 | Dzxk | With just a Pi zero? |
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| 21:04.05 | netcat | you could do it on a pi or just about anything, but i was talking about a cellphone |
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| 21:15.26 | fenfen | can you run debian with 2g ram |
| 21:15.37 | metastable | Depends what you're doing. |
| 21:16.46 | ryouma | yes, i am running emacs firefox torrent client and taking 26% of 4gb |
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| 21:17.58 | fenfen | what desktop do you use |
| 21:18.04 | fenfen | gnome |
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| 21:22.01 | fenfen | ryouma: ? |
| 21:22.49 | Kobaz | what's a good way to find out what package version is part of which release |
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| 21:23.18 | Kobaz | say i have coreutils=8.26-3... and i want to see what distro provides that |
| 21:24.03 | Guifle | hello there, I'd like to delete an OS on my machine, but it is the one where grub bootloader is installed. how can I move grub to the other OS so that grub doesnt get deleted when OS is removed? |
| 21:24.32 | inaki | Kobaz you can find that on the webpage package's searcher |
| 21:24.34 | inaki | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=coreutils |
| 21:24.51 | Kobaz | k |
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| 21:26.11 | Guifle | is it simply "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" ? |
| 21:26.25 | Guifle | so that it doesnt get bound to any OS |
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| 21:27.28 | netcat | Guifle, just install grub package on the other os, and grub-install (wherever you want) and update-grub, and grub will be handled by the other os. then you can delete the first one. |
| 21:28.35 | Guifle | netcat, you mean by "just install grub package on the other os" that I install by using, say, "sudo grub-install /dev/sda2" ? |
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| 21:30.01 | hweaving | Is this the best channel to ask regarding a clock_nanosleep() variance of up to 700 ms when running a graphical Debian environment? |
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| 21:30.40 | Guifle | from which OS should I install grub on /dev/sda2? from the same OS as I'd like to install grub to, or from another OS? |
| 21:30.59 | netcat | Guifle, well, assming grub package is installed on os#2, just boot into os#2, do sudo grub-install /dev/sdX followed by sudo update-grub. then os#2 knows all about your bootloader and you can just delete os#1. |
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| 21:31.17 | hweaving | I'm running Debian 3.16.7 in a virtual machine. If I lower the system runlevel to 3, I have clock_nanosleep() test code which observes a sleep time of 500 ms most of the time, with occasional spikes. If I run the same test while the graphical interface is running, even though the system CPUs are idle and only one terminal is open, the sleep very commonly takes 600-1200 ms. |
| 21:31.50 | Guifle | netcat, but it is os#2 with the current grub that I'd like to delete. |
| 21:32.11 | Guifle | I mean, not os#1 |
| 21:32.27 | netcat | Guifle, lol, well, whichever one you want to keep, do it from there. |
| 21:32.35 | hweaving | I'm also running gnome-shell as my desktop if that makes a difference. |
| 21:35.03 | leachim6 | hey debian folks |
| 21:35.11 | Guifle | netcat, so I'd like to keep os#1 but it doesnt have grub on it right now. I go to os#1 and run above commands to install grub, and that's it? |
| 21:35.18 | leachim6 | I've been running RHEL/CentOS at work for the past few years |
| 21:35.38 | leachim6 | once you run package updates the way to find out which kernel the system will boot into on the next boot is "grubby --default-kernel" |
| 21:35.42 | netcat | Guifle, and if everything screws up and you can't boot, dd super_grub2_disk_hybrid_2.01-rc3.iso to a usbstick and boot it, and it will find your installs and let you boot into one. |
| 21:35.48 | leachim6 | is there a debian equivelant besides grepping the grub conf? |
| 21:37.28 | Guifle | netcat, I hope not. I'll try it, thank you |
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| 21:42.12 | hweaving | This sounds something similar actually https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/377621/clock-instability-in-debian-9-stretch |
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| 22:01.44 | incal | when I download with mpsyt, I get: Problem playing last item: unknown url type: '/yts/jsbin/player-vflwcUIMe/sv_SE/base.js' |
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| 22:02.01 | incal | mpsyt version : 0.2.7.1 |
| 22:02.04 | incal | pafy version : 0.5.3.1 (youtube-dl backend) |
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| 22:25.32 | mrr0butt | wpasupplicant patch came fast :D |
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| 22:26.25 | mutante | yea :) while Fedora was waiting and OSX lol |
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| 22:43.09 | mrr0butt | OpenBSD was notified of the vulnerability on 15 July 2017, before CERT/CC was involved in the coordination. Quite quickly, Theo de Raadt replied and critiqued the tentative disclosure deadline: âIn the open source world, if a person writes a diff and has to sit on it for a month, that is very discouragingâ. Note that I wrote and included a suggested diff for OpenBSD already, and that at the time the tentative disclosure deadline was aro |
| 22:43.09 | mrr0butt | und the end of August. As a compromise, I allowed them to silently patch the vulnerability. In hindsight this was a bad decision, since others might rediscover the vulnerability by inspecting their silent patch. To avoid this problem in the future, OpenBSD will now receive vulnerability notifications closer to the end of an embargo. |
| 22:43.35 | mrr0butt | openbsd patched wpa in July :O |
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| 23:04.59 | Ritzton | Hello |
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| 23:06.55 | Ritzton | I am using debian wheezy and I did "curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_6.x | sudo -E bash -" then "sudo apt-get install -y nodejs" to upgrade node.js like it is written here https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/ but then when I am doing node -v, still the old version shows up, would you know what I am missing ? |
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| 23:20.21 | quietone | using screen, when I ssh to my local lxc containers I get this error. 'WARNING: terminal is not fully functional' |
| 23:20.31 | somiaj | Ritzton: Type which node, what do you get in return? |
| 23:20.43 | quietone | TERM is 'screen.xterm-256color' |
| 23:21.13 | somiaj | quietone: so this is a warning from your lxc container as you login with ssh? |
| 23:21.42 | somiaj | it just might not detect that TERM variable, you may need to change the term to something that it understands. It also is just a warning and it could be it is functional enough adn you don't need to do anything |
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| 23:23.01 | quietone | somiaj, it is when I do something like 'less <somefile>" when logged in to the container |
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| 23:24.45 | quietone | I searched and tried a few of the suggested things some time ago (forget the details) but didn't find anything that worked. |
| 23:24.52 | quietone | do you have a suggestion? |
| 23:25.02 | somiaj | quietone: ahh so it is less. you could try TERM=xterm less <somefile> for instance, see if you find a term that works and less doesn't complain about. |
| 23:25.30 | somiaj | quietone: it could also be that the TERM you have set is not listed in your termcap. You don't have this problem if you don't use screen right? |
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| 23:26.36 | quietone | somiaj, no problem when using a new window in GNOME terminal |
| 23:27.22 | somiaj | quietone: what does echo $TERM give in that case? If you say TERM=thatthing less from inside of screen does it work. |
| 23:27.36 | somiaj | you may also find tmux a bit nicer to use, it is a more modern screen that may have better termcap info |
| 23:27.49 | somiaj | actually my term in tmux is just screen |
| 23:27.53 | quietone | xterm-256color |
| 23:28.05 | somiaj | try this, 'TERM=screen less <somecolor>' -- dose that work? |
| 23:28.23 | somiaj | you can also try xterm-256color, but it might be your container doens't know screen.xterm-256color in termcap. |
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| 23:29.41 | somiaj | quietone: if you do ls /usr/share/terminfo/s/ -- you may notice there is no terminfo for that term. There is a screen-256color-s if you really need to support that many colors |
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| 23:32.27 | quietone | somiaj, /usr/share/terminfo is empty on the container. |
| 23:33.59 | somiaj | quietone: what os is the container? |
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| 23:34.36 | quietone | somiaj, Debian GNU/Linux 9.1 (stretch) |
| 23:35.26 | somiaj | hmm, wonder what the container is using for terminfo. all the stuff I see in termfino comes from the ncurses-term package here on jessie. I don't have a stretch box handy to test that |
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| 23:36.11 | quietone | somiaj, another container, also stretch, has the terminfo populated. |
| 23:36.16 | somiaj | maybe installing ncurses-term will help. |
| 23:36.39 | somiaj | anyways I got to go, but hopefully I was able to give enough info that you can figure out the problem. To me it seems like a terminfo issue |
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| 23:38.08 | quietone | somiaj, yes thanks. I have to get back to paid work too. |
| 23:38.10 | kevy0 | Hi guys. Havin problem with displaying Icons within Debian. Installed the fonts-font-awesome package and the do show up in the Browser. But within vim or other aps , they won't. any Ideas (Running Debian9 up2date) |
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