| 00:00.10 | ghormoon | I was lazy to check, but some of those ## channels have the # counterparts invite only so people don't split between them |
| 00:00.11 | InSomN1aC | but #java redirects to ##java |
| 00:00.24 | glick | i see |
| 00:00.25 | glick | thanks |
| 00:00.33 | InSomN1aC | annadane, any reason why you asked?\ |
| 00:01.07 | annadane | InSomN1aC, because sometimes people using VPNs have been blocked |
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| 00:01.29 | Megaf | Debian has great universatibility |
| 00:01.35 | InSomN1aC | annadane, no i am on my direct line |
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| 00:01.53 | Sir_Designer | universatibility? |
| 00:02.07 | Megaf | oh, I though I had created a new word |
| 00:02.13 | ghormoon | should systemd be mixed with acpid or not? |
| 00:02.18 | Megaf | but it already exists in another spelling, universability |
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| 00:03.01 | Sir_Designer | universability is not in the dictionary either |
| 00:03.09 | annadane | !offtopic |
| 00:03.09 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 00:03.40 | Sir_Designer | annadane i think communicating in an understood manner is on topic |
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| 00:03.44 | InSomN1aC | this looks like a problem with my provider..checked on mobile still not accessible..turned off wifi and tried vie 4G, wiki opens |
| 00:03.55 | Megaf | annadane, I wont stop, so please stop you |
| 00:04.12 | Megaf | the offtopic channel is a joke, almost nobody there |
| 00:04.26 | InSomN1aC | Megaf, thanks your helping alot |
| 00:04.29 | annadane | i don't understand how you can possibly justify continuing on like this when the bot factoid specifically tells you not to do things like this |
| 00:04.35 | Megaf | Sir_Designer, Universalizability |
| 00:04.36 | annadane | take it up with the ops, not me |
| 00:04.42 | annadane | meanwhile, someone has an actual support question |
| 00:05.22 | Megaf | ghormoon, I don't understand your question |
| 00:05.25 | Megaf | they are different things |
| 00:05.47 | ghormoon | well, I can't make systemd suspend on power button, so I'm wondering if I should have acpod |
| 00:05.50 | ghormoon | acpid or not |
| 00:06.09 | Megaf | why would systemd do that? |
| 00:06.13 | ghormoon | (on the contrary, closing the lid did suspend until it was turned off) |
| 00:06.20 | Megaf | your power manager should do that |
| 00:06.25 | bazhang | Megaf, there is ##english |
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| 00:06.41 | ghormoon | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.42 | bazhang | Megaf, you wanting to chat here doesnt make this the chat channel |
| 00:07.05 | Megaf | ghormoon, I see |
| 00:07.30 | Megaf | ghormoon, I've never seen that working. Always relied on the DE power manager |
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| 00:08.10 | ghormoon | well, I don't have DE. maybe then I should make this ignore and use acpid? |
| 00:08.27 | Megaf | ghormoon, so, do you get any dmesg message when you try to suspend? |
| 00:09.11 | ghormoon | no, but closing a lid gives me few lines on unhandled key |
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| 00:09.46 | Megaf | ghormoon, well, install acpi stuff and see how it goes... |
| 00:09.59 | ghormoon | https://pastebin.com/6rb2L7wQ |
| 00:10.29 | ghormoon | and also it turns off keyboard backlight. I'll need to somehow make a script o n lid open to turn it back on :D |
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| 00:11.06 | Megaf | you could send them an email address... |
| 00:11.17 | InSomN1aC | i guess no one has any suggestions as to why would not be able to access the wiki |
| 00:11.34 | ghormoon | well, installing acpid made no change regards dmesg messages |
| 00:11.57 | Megaf | InSomN1aC, Told you already, change your IP |
| 00:12.03 | Megaf | your IP is black listed |
| 00:12.24 | Megaf | if your IP is dynamic, then maybe the previous user of your IP did something nasty |
| 00:12.51 | Megaf | if it is static, then just get in touch with them |
| 00:14.34 | InSomN1aC | in touch with who? there shouldn't be a previous user of my ip, been less then some months since i got this new line |
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| 00:15.06 | Megaf | annadane, bazhang, you have any idea whos the maintainer of the wiki? Or the only thing you know is bother people for casual words now and then? |
| 00:15.21 | InSomN1aC | Megaf, how do you its specifically my ip and not the whole provider? |
| 00:15.34 | Megaf | InSomN1aC, I dont |
| 00:15.49 | Megaf | also it was suggested before it could be your provider range that is blocked |
| 00:15.57 | Megaf | in any case, get in touch with them |
| 00:16.44 | InSomN1aC | again why would i get in touch with them before i know what exactly is the situation |
| 00:16.45 | Megaf | InSomN1aC, wiki@debian.org for private direct contat |
| 00:16.57 | bazhang | Megaf, the debian wiki? sure |
| 00:16.58 | Megaf | InSomN1aC, debian-www@lists.debian.org for the mail list |
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| 00:18.13 | ghormoon | acpid when told to log, los lid open/close ,but not the power button :( |
| 00:18.52 | Megaf | ghormoon, what laptop you have? |
| 00:19.20 | ghormoon | thinkpad 470s |
| 00:19.24 | Megaf | InSomN1aC, If I were you I'd just send an email to tha list asking help on trying to figure out what's going on |
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| 00:19.54 | ghormoon | *T470s |
| 00:20.02 | Megaf | lovely |
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| 00:20.36 | ghormoon | I had to already hack around wakeup on lid open by script (oneshot service) so it won't turn on in bagpack :D |
| 00:20.58 | ghormoon | maybe they changed way too much between generations and the acpi packages are not ready :( |
| 00:21.33 | Megaf | ghormoon, do you use any WM at all? |
| 00:21.37 | Megaf | or 100% console? |
| 00:22.34 | Megaf | !wiki |
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| 00:23.17 | debiandragon | if I'm running ubuntu now, and I want to make a partition to set up a debian stretch distro, can I thereafter resize the debian distro and knock out the ubuntu distro (assuming they're on the same HDD)? |
| 00:23.47 | Megaf | maybe |
| 00:24.17 | InSomN1aC | Megaf, thanks will send them a mail |
| 00:24.28 | Megaf | depends if MBR or GPT, if MBR depends if Primary, Logical or Extendend partition |
| 00:24.44 | ghormoon | Megaf: xmonad. but I've just googled up someones issues with T520 (way older) and found out that thinkpad needs ~1.5 sec hold on the button to actually send any event |
| 00:24.48 | Megaf | debiandragon, if GPT or MBR depends on file system |
| 00:24.53 | ghormoon | quick press does nothing |
| 00:25.07 | ghormoon | 1.5-2s hold does suspend it actually |
| 00:25.14 | ghormoon | even without acpid |
| 00:26.03 | Megaf | so, there we go? |
| 00:26.09 | ghormoon | so that is (partially) solved as I don't think I can do more about it |
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| 00:26.32 | ghormoon | one more thing that would be nice to tweak to properly lock screen on all running sessions when suspending |
| 00:26.49 | Megaf | You could just create something that triggers a command when the power button is pressed or the lid is closed |
| 00:26.54 | ghormoon | (it willl lock anyway about 1s after opening as xautolock gets time, but still ...) |
| 00:27.24 | Megaf | https://askubuntu.com/questions/281263/execute-a-shell-script-when-closing-laptop-lid |
| 00:27.30 | ghormoon | yeah, but how to properly run it on all sessions, is there some shortcut for that? or should I somehow find out all open X sessions? |
| 00:27.37 | Megaf | https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=291877 |
| 00:27.44 | Megaf | these lights might help |
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| 00:28.23 | Megaf | InSomN1aC, Let me know how it goes |
| 00:28.27 | Megaf | I'm curious :) |
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| 00:28.44 | InSomN1aC | Megaf, lets hope i get a emailed back |
| 00:28.48 | ghormoon | well the first assumes :0.0 |
| 00:28.53 | Megaf | InSomN1aC, Let me know how it goes, I'm curious. Since I have never seen that precise error |
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| 00:29.10 | debiandragon | Megaf: ty for the responses - I think the partition is ext4 |
| 00:29.12 | ghormoon | that will work as long there will not be more users (most likely not, but I wan to solve it properly in case there will be later :)) |
| 00:29.18 | InSomN1aC | Megaf, first time for me as well |
| 00:29.19 | debiandragon | primary.. |
| 00:29.44 | Megaf | debiandragon, hold on, let me test something here |
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| 00:30.24 | InSomN1aC | i came to the conclusion that must be something with my ip or provider because its the same error on mobile while connected to wifi |
| 00:30.39 | ghormoon | hm, found this, looks promising, will need some testing though https://pastebin.com/NzFHUHUh |
| 00:31.03 | Megaf | I love when people come with these unusual errors |
| 00:31.09 | Megaf | or situations |
| 00:31.35 | Megaf | ghormoon, oh yeah, xscreensaver can do lots of stuff |
| 00:31.36 | InSomN1aC | can' be bother to turn on my other pc and do more test..on laptop |
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| 00:31.58 | ghormoon | well, the part around that is the important thing :) |
| 00:32.10 | Megaf | debiandragon, do you know if you are using MBR or GPT partition table? |
| 00:32.23 | ghormoon | I'll just thow i3lock there |
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| 00:32.39 | ghormoon | but the rest picking up users and display variables is the important part |
| 00:32.44 | InSomN1aC | at least i fixed the touchpad on this thing |
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| 00:32.56 | InSomN1aC | and that without the wiki |
| 00:33.00 | ghormoon | I'll test tomorrow, gonna sleep now, gn and thanks |
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| 00:33.25 | Megaf | debiandragon, as root, run fdisk -l /dev/sda |
| 00:33.27 | debiandragon | Megaf: :) MSDOS ;) |
| 00:33.33 | Megaf | and tell me the disklabel type, please |
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| 00:35.00 | debiandragon | Megaf: disklabel type: dos, 512byte blocks, an 80gb drive with ext4 @ 76g, ext4 extended @ 2g, and swap @ 2g |
| 00:36.11 | Megaf | debiandragon, so, acording to my tests, if you create a second primary parition |
| 00:36.21 | Megaf | then delete the first primary partition |
| 00:36.37 | Megaf | you wont be able to grow back to the begining of the disk the second partition |
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| 00:37.44 | debiandragon | Not what I wanted to hear. :) damn. |
| 00:37.46 | debiandragon | ok ty |
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| 00:38.33 | Megaf | debiandragon, let me simulate other scenario here, just a sec |
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| 00:39.52 | debiandragon | Megaf: are you attempting to build say the back end of the primary as another primary, then delete 1st primary, then remake 1st, then move 2nd to first, then grow 1st to the end of the disk again? that might work. ;) |
| 00:39.57 | debiandragon | no idea how you're doing this so far |
| 00:39.58 | debiandragon | *fast |
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| 00:40.40 | Megaf | Im doing combinations of that with primary, extended and logical partitions |
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| 00:42.30 | debiandragon | pretty crazy |
| 00:44.52 | Megaf | interesting |
| 00:45.01 | Megaf | maybe it works with extended partitions |
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| 00:45.38 | debiandragon | thanks very much for doing this. |
| 00:46.08 | Megaf | debiandragon, but |
| 00:46.28 | Megaf | what I would recommend is, in case you can expand the partition, then just use the space for /home or /usr |
| 00:46.39 | Megaf | most of the programs are installed in the /usr |
| 00:46.53 | Megaf | so /home and /usr usually are the biggest directories |
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| 00:47.14 | Megaf | And I was just using gparted to mess around |
| 00:47.17 | dvs | Definately make /home a separate partition |
| 00:47.40 | aloo_shu | just was to suggest the same - re use |
| 00:47.44 | Megaf | debiandragon, you can try and simulate things with gparted and a usb thumb drive for example :) |
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| 00:48.06 | Megaf | and I too suggest a /home there :) |
| 00:50.31 | debiandragon | Megaf: ah, right on, ;) |
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| 00:51.15 | aloo_shu | I do not know what reputation linux LVM2 has currently, but setting up a large chunk of a 500GB disk as that has given me quite some flexibility in re-dedicating space |
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| 00:54.43 | debiandragon | Yeah ty guys I just googled the separate /home thing and that's a pretty awesome idea :) |
| 00:54.45 | aloo_shu | I can confirm booting an os residing on lvm with grub worked fine, sometimes other linuxes residing elsewhere needed a little help before 'seeing' the lvm volumes |
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| 00:57.54 | Megaf | debiandragon, glad we could at lease shine some light |
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| 01:03.06 | debiandragon | It's weird, like, I know that I'm asking a ton of questions, but I also know I've been googling crap for days... :) Started with ubuntu maybe 2ish months ago, been using debian for 1.5 weeks, trying LFS now. :) Thing that pushed me to LFS was xmonad needing 1gb of dependencies, then trying to install the suckless stuff and finding out that I didn't know anything. :( Trying to start at the start now. |
| 01:03.27 | debiandragon | Thanks for helping with the partitioning planning - going to try to smash this thing over the next few days. :) |
| 01:03.36 | debiandragon | running with an old laptop, want to keep it nice and tight. :) |
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| 01:50.37 | sim590 | I'm trying to print multiple copies of a file with a brother printer. I have all the packages mentionned on the page https://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting. When I try to print multiple copies, I only get 1 each time. |
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| 02:01.20 | TimeTraveler | hi |
| 02:01.35 | TimeTraveler | does anyone know a good snes emulator for debian? |
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| 02:02.59 | bazhang | ,v zsnes |
| 02:03.01 | judd | No package named 'zsnes' was found in amd64. |
| 02:03.09 | bazhang | odd |
| 02:03.21 | bazhang | there's another as well iirc |
| 02:04.13 | TimeTraveler | hmm. why isnt zsnes included? |
| 02:05.38 | bazhang | ,v snes9x |
| 02:05.39 | judd | No package named 'snes9x' was found in amd64. |
| 02:05.45 | bazhang | what! |
| 02:05.56 | bazhang | thats the one that works a treat |
| 02:06.27 | annadane | TimeTraveler, look into retroarch |
| 02:06.29 | TimeTraveler | snes9x isnt free i think |
| 02:06.37 | annadane | not SNES specific but it has all kinds of consoles including SNES |
| 02:06.54 | annadane | it's maybe a little counter intuitive to use compared to a pure SNES emulator |
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| 02:07.22 | TimeTraveler | too bad openemu is only mac os |
| 02:07.59 | annadane | you can probably get zsnes/snes9x or whatever online as a tar |
| 02:08.28 | annadane | afaik emulators aren't illegal, just the roms |
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| 02:09.48 | annadane | ,v retroarch |
| 02:09.49 | judd | Package: retroarch on amd64 -- buster: 1.3.6+dfsg1-1; sid: 1.3.6+dfsg1-1; stretch: 1.3.6+dfsg1-1; experimental: 1.4.1+dfsg1-1 |
| 02:09.57 | bazhang | the roms are mostly free and can be played int he browser these days |
| 02:09.58 | annadane | yeah, comfortably in stretch |
| 02:10.07 | petn-randall | It's perfectly legal if you bought them. And in many countries it's legal to make private copies for your friends and family. |
| 02:10.12 | bazhang | nothing illegal about that |
| 02:10.14 | sim590 | well. Okular has a bug where it doesn't preserver integrity of printing parameters... |
| 02:10.15 | annadane | if you bought them, yes |
| 02:10.20 | bazhang | nopes |
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| 02:10.37 | bazhang | freely available and legal for all |
| 02:10.52 | annadane | first i've heard of it... |
| 02:11.03 | bazhang | it's been recent so perhaps you didnt know |
| 02:11.51 | porter | I just upscaled from my laptops 14'' built in monitor via a vga+audo to hdmi converter , but in doing so I'v lost my dock and taskbar on the 16:9 full hd monitor |
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| 02:12.28 | TimeTraveler | hmm no zsnes |
| 02:12.45 | Megaf | nope |
| 02:12.53 | Megaf | unfortunetly |
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| 02:14.02 | Megaf | TimeTraveler, it's only available in 32 bit |
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| 02:14.10 | Megaf | so you have to go back in time |
| 02:14.26 | TimeTraveler | damn |
| 02:14.32 | TimeTraveler | looks like my only option is higan |
| 02:14.41 | TimeTraveler | but it doesnt look well documented |
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| 02:15.40 | annadane | of course if you don't mind 200 MB of packages you can install wine and run zsnes or whatever with wine (but i'm sure it's available for linux as a tar) |
| 02:15.46 | Megaf | TimeTraveler, snes9x |
| 02:16.58 | Megaf | oh |
| 02:17.00 | Megaf | nevermind |
| 02:17.06 | bazhang | saidit |
| 02:17.37 | annadane | (actually i think wine is 563 or so MB...) |
| 02:17.55 | annadane | whatever, never mind |
| 02:18.03 | bazhang | no need for wine to run snes9x |
| 02:18.10 | annadane | yeah, no |
| 02:18.17 | bazhang | ? |
| 02:18.24 | bazhang | why mention wine |
| 02:18.50 | annadane | oh i don't know why i mentioned wine at all. you can of course easily find it online without it |
| 02:18.55 | annadane | just ignore me |
| 02:19.05 | bazhang | ? |
| 02:19.09 | bazhang | find what |
| 02:19.20 | annadane | snes9x or any other emulator |
| 02:20.11 | bazhang | as in their homepage |
| 02:20.14 | bazhang | yeah |
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| 02:23.26 | rauchenmann | hi |
| 02:24.05 | dvs | hides behind a rock |
| 02:24.16 | Megaf | hm, zsnes wont compile here |
| 02:24.19 | Megaf | for some reason |
| 02:24.56 | Megaf | get this error http://paste.debian.net/992481/ |
| 02:26.40 | TimeTraveler | zsnes works for 386 arch only |
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| 02:32.41 | Megaf | internet? |
| 02:34.25 | Megaf | TimeTraveler, seems like our only choice is Higan indeed |
| 02:34.58 | ryouma | Megaf: so debian packages sometimes do not include the info pages anywhere in debian? |
| 02:35.32 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
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| 02:36.23 | tobiasBora | I'd like to do for educational purpose a small game, that quit after n seconds the ssh connection. "Like this shell will autodescruct in 10 seconds" |
| 02:36.40 | tobiasBora | I'm stupid |
| 02:36.46 | tobiasBora | & should be my friend |
| 02:39.07 | Megaf | ryouma, sorry, cant help. Dont know. Maybe try to figure out who is the package maintainer and talk to him, packages.debian.org is great help for that |
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| 02:41.49 | x54806b45 | I have a backup of my hard drive that I made with dd from an unencrypted Debian system. |
| 02:42.15 | x54806b45 | Now I want to restore the backup, but I'd like to add full volume encryption. |
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| 02:43.16 | x54806b45 | I was thinking about setting up an encrypted volume using the installer, and then mounting the backup somewhere, and the scp ing the files onto the drive |
| 02:44.03 | x54806b45 | will this work? is this stoopid? what should I do to create an encrypted system given my backup of an unencrypted system? |
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| 02:49.46 | x54806b45 | is this the wrong channel? |
| 02:49.49 | Megaf | x54806b45, Id use rsync -az --progress /source /destination |
| 02:49.56 | Megaf | but yeah, should work |
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| 02:51.09 | n4dir | there should be some information on the new installation which are not to be found on the old (unencrypted) installation . /etc/fstab ; then cryptsetup and you will probably use lvm. |
| 02:51.14 | n4dir | else i think it should work |
| 02:51.38 | Megaf | x54806b45, wait, you want to do for the whole system? |
| 02:51.53 | Megaf | Then the odds of working are slimmer, way slimmer |
| 02:51.55 | n4dir | i would install the new system as minimal as possible. |
| 02:52.12 | Megaf | I would just copy the iimportant files from home |
| 02:52.13 | Megaf | :P |
| 02:52.33 | n4dir | Like Megaf said i would use rsync instead, including also --delete, but then you got the problem i just spoke about. |
| 02:52.59 | n4dir | perhaps searching the web for "how to restore a cryptsetup installation" may give hints (i didn't find any, but only had a quick search) |
| 02:53.23 | x54806b45 | yah, OK, maybe my best bet is to install a new system, then rsync over home, after that I can look into /opt or various /etc things that I may want to copy iver |
| 02:53.48 | n4dir | for sure less headaches. though i still think your idea may work. |
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| 02:54.53 | x54806b45 | OK, thanks for the advice, I'll process carefully |
| 02:55.00 | n4dir | good luck :-) |
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| 02:58.05 | x54806b45 | does anyone actually still use swap? |
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| 02:58.45 | x54806b45 | also, the default installer settings want 256MB for /boot, isn't that a lot? |
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| 03:00.14 | annadane | you can use lvm |
| 03:00.55 | uxfi | query badatom |
| 03:01.00 | uxfi | oops |
| 03:01.30 | x54806b45 | yah, using lvm the default setting was 16GB of swap and 256mb for /boot. am I crazy to think that when the machine has 16gb of ram that there's no way I need that much swap |
| 03:01.54 | x54806b45 | and, like, isn't the boot image just a few mb? |
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| 03:02.25 | x54806b45 | I may be totally wrong, let me know |
| 03:03.36 | n4dir | i think i have heard that swap is needed for hibernation or suspending (but as i don't do such ... ). |
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| 03:03.54 | x54806b45 | I see |
| 03:04.07 | x54806b45 | well that's a reason to have some then. |
| 03:04.20 | n4dir | my boot directory has 44 MB (but i sure wouldn't worry about a partition of 256 MB ...) |
| 03:04.20 | annadane | actually though i'm not sure whether using lvm with boot is a good idea, i shouldn't say anything |
| 03:05.02 | x54806b45 | lol, the default lvm settings seem to have a /boot and an encrypted partition |
| 03:05.15 | n4dir | annadane: he wants to encrypt. doing that with lvm is kinda default, iirc (if you want to do it only with cryptsetup, it's quite a bit of manual work during installation) |
| 03:05.42 | annadane | oh, okay. |
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| 03:05.57 | n4dir | i am talking slightly over my head, btw :-) |
| 03:06.08 | ryouma | you can do encryption without lvm in installation without manual work /i think/ |
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| 03:06.31 | ryouma | i.e. no command lines just use the installer |
| 03:06.57 | annadane | can probably debootstrap it |
| 03:06.58 | n4dir | ryouma: yeah, but you have to click back and forth a bit. But then: my experience is as old as now old-stable is. Might well have changed. |
| 03:07.03 | x54806b45 | yah, but I am not sure I like these defaults |
| 03:07.29 | x54806b45 | this disk only has 500gb, so 16gb is not insignificant |
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| 03:07.47 | n4dir | can't you use a swapfile instead? |
| 03:07.57 | n4dir | i for one never create a swap partition. |
| 03:08.10 | x54806b45 | prolly, that's why I am thinking about not making a swap partition |
| 03:08.23 | ryouma | just make a tiny one |
| 03:08.31 | ryouma | unless you are on a laptop |
| 03:08.43 | x54806b45 | this is a laptop, yes |
| 03:09.06 | ryouma | so you need all 16 unless you have a better solution |
| 03:09.21 | ryouma | or don't hibernate |
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| 03:09.34 | x54806b45 | OK, well, glad I asked |
| 03:09.38 | ryouma | there might be a compressor |
| 03:09.41 | x54806b45 | :) |
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| 03:10.45 | x54806b45 | am I right that 128 mb is more than enough for /boot? |
| 03:10.50 | ryouma | swap files do work, and it used to be said that they pass through the fs to the disk (or in your case to the device mapper?) but recently people say they are deprecated and you need a partition. idk. |
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| 03:11.19 | ryouma | x54806b45: you might want to stick a rescue iso there or forget to delete kernels |
| 03:11.44 | n4dir | yup. i would hate it to have a too small /boot and regret it later. |
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| 03:12.24 | x54806b45 | see. this is why I came here to ask these questions. turns out the defaults are justified :) |
| 03:12.30 | ryouma | i would avoid lvm, but many peopel think it's great. my suspicion is that most of those people are either major enthusiasts or sysadmins. |
| 03:12.49 | n4dir | same here, ryouma. |
| 03:13.01 | ryouma | oh good i was afraid i would have to justify my claim :) |
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| 03:13.32 | n4dir | yeah. most really seem to like it. but for me it is just extra stuff to learn (and as i put all in / anyway ... ) |
| 03:14.17 | n4dir | most -> most who use it. duh |
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| 03:22.58 | tesko | what does this mean ? Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?) |
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| 03:23.36 | tesko | this happens when i altered sources.list |
| 03:23.38 | tesko | to sid |
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| 03:25.41 | n4dir | !debian-next |
| 03:25.41 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 03:25.58 | n4dir | sid only has one line in the repos list. |
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| 03:27.27 | n4dir | deb http://deb.debian.org/debian sid main # like that |
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| 03:28.39 | tesko | yes |
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| 03:29.01 | n4dir | you got that one line and get the error? |
| 03:29.07 | tesko | so it doesnt need contrib non-free? |
| 03:29.29 | n4dir | hence i said: # like that. if you want contrib or non-free (or both), then those too. |
| 03:29.49 | n4dir | what i meant is: no entries for updates (like stable has) |
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| 03:37.52 | drwhitey | why the google news item for steven hawkings dissertation. Cant everyone see that an excellent understanding of molecules and motion will never explain the most important things in life such as why??? The tiger ate katy perry's vain boyfriend in her roar video and how she managed to cope without a man and become her own hero!! |
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| 03:42.22 | drwhitey | why not just destroy all those crooked nigger dick suckin, wife stealing, girl raping, girl murdering nazi/jew filth that wont let white doctors raise their families. |
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| 03:46.16 | drwhitey | Do you embiciles really think anyone gives a goddamn shit about steven hawkings diarrhea of the mouth |
| 03:48.28 | drwhitey | While helpless girls are kidnapped, raped and murdered by naxi/jew filth that steal the wives of white doctors and hand them to croiked nigger dick suckin girl murdering trash |
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| 03:54.19 | drwhitey | fuck you giddamn crooked nigger dick suckin, girl murdering nazi/jew filth to hell and beyond |
| 03:54.32 | dax | !ops drwhitey |
| 03:54.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: dax complains about a problem (see above) |
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| 03:55.26 | dax | yay, problem self-resolved |
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| 04:10.32 | Natechip | installing debian 9 buster testing. installation step failed: select and install software |
| 04:11.06 | annadane | Natechip, maybe select a different mirror |
| 04:11.39 | annadane | Natechip, also, you should probably install debian 9 (9 is stretch, not buster, buster is 10) and from there upgrade to buster |
| 04:11.48 | Natechip | oh |
| 04:11.52 | Natechip | I meant 10 |
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| 04:12.09 | Natechip | though it does say 9 on the installation gui |
| 04:12.11 | annadane | !testing installer |
| 04:12.11 | dpkg | Repeat after me: the testing installer is for testing the <installer>, not for installing <testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using the <stable> installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against the debian-installer pseudopackage. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 04:12.22 | ross` | I am getting ssl_error_rx_record_too_long from firefox when connecting to apache2. |
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| 04:13.01 | ross` | I have enabled modssl, I have also properly configured my virtualhost configuration. In addition, I have checked that ports.conf is listening on port 443 when mod ssl is enbaled. |
| 04:13.02 | Natechip | annadane |
| 04:13.16 | Natechip | why should i install 10 from 9? |
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| 04:13.24 | ross` | Does anyone have anything I can try since nothing on google is helping me? |
| 04:13.26 | Natechip | just trying to understand |
| 04:13.50 | dax | because the testing installer is for testing the installer, not for installing testing |
| 04:14.11 | dax | i.e. it is likely to be significantly more broken than doing a stable->testing upgrade |
| 04:14.19 | Natechip | ohhh |
| 04:14.29 | Natechip | dax one sec ill pm u |
| 04:14.32 | dax | no you won't |
| 04:14.42 | Natechip | mkay nvm |
| 04:14.45 | Natechip | I guess i wont |
| 04:14.52 | Natechip | but thanks for the answer |
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| 04:15.55 | ross` | Also, I can't figure out why it seems to completely ignore my port 80 virtual host... It gives me the defaultroot even when there is an explicit server name and document root |
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| 04:18.01 | ross` | Nevermind.. it seems something changed requiring sites-enabled to end in .conf |
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| 04:20.40 | Natechip | !stable->testing |
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| 04:20.44 | Natechip | ... |
| 04:21.04 | Natechip | uhh |
| 04:22.04 | Natechip | annadane |
| 04:22.15 | Natechip | how to see stable to testing? |
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| 04:22.20 | annadane | ! stable->testing |
| 04:22.20 | dpkg | Well... buster doesn't even exist yet, but when it does, it's going to be a bumpy ride for a few months. Don't run Debian "testing" just after a release unless you like helping fix bugs. Testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support; ask me about <moving target> <testing> <testing security>. If you feel you need instructions on how to upgrade, you should wait a while. |
| 04:22.31 | annadane | well |
| 04:22.39 | annadane | i think there are probably notes for now |
| 04:22.53 | annadane | but essentially what you need to do, despite what dpkg tells you, is, |
| 04:22.58 | annadane | !buster sources.list |
| 04:22.58 | dpkg | Debian 9 "Stretch" has only just been released which means that it's a bad time for people who don't know a lot about Debian to be trying to use the 'testing' release (aka buster). If you have to ask this question, you shouldn't! |
| 04:23.06 | annadane | oh for the love of |
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| 04:23.43 | Natechip | annadane: uh oh |
| 04:24.27 | Natechip | ! testing security |
| 04:24.27 | dpkg | Security updates in testing are delayed by the normal testing migration *and* may be further delayed by missing dependencies, etc. See https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing |
| 04:24.46 | annadane | does anyone actually know what you need in your sources list for buster? i honestly can't remember. anyway, once you have it in your sources you should be able to just apt update + apt upgrade + apt dist-upgrade |
| 04:25.07 | annadane | checks the wiki |
| 04:25.12 | nkuttler | annadane: man 5 sources.list |
| 04:25.20 | Natechip | ... |
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| 04:28.52 | annadane | i know for sid it's just a single line, it may be the same for testing |
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| 04:31.54 | annadane | nkuttler, the man page seems to indicate one does indeed only need one line for testing, but i could swear that that isn't accurate |
| 04:33.33 | annadane | actually, no, sorry, this is all wrong. i apologize, Natechip |
| 04:33.37 | annadane | i'll give you a proper sources list |
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| 04:34.50 | Natechip | ok |
| 04:35.27 | annadane | i believe https://paste.debian.net/992485/ should be correct (and add contrib and non-free next to main if you want non free software) unless i'm very much mistaken |
| 04:35.36 | annadane | i'm surprised the information isn't easier to find |
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| 04:40.48 | Natechip | annadane thanks |
| 04:41.47 | Natechip | annadane how do I verify I am on buster now |
| 04:41.59 | annadane | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 04:42.09 | annadane | if you've upgraded to buster completely you probably need to restart |
| 04:42.28 | annadane | Natechip, also, yeah, if you do have to ask questions like that be careful if you want to use testing because it *can* break. |
| 04:43.04 | annadane | and you won't be able to downgrade, it goes stable > testing > unstable but not the other way, you would have to reinstall if you want to switch back to stable |
| 04:43.23 | Natechip | thats fine |
| 04:43.43 | Natechip | im familiar with other linux distros |
| 04:43.48 | Natechip | never debian |
| 04:43.48 | annadane | Natechip, you won't automatically have buster just by putting "buster" in your sources list. you need to "apt update" "apt upgrade" "apt dist-upgrade" and pay attention to what apt is telling you, you don't want it to remove packages you don't want removed |
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| 04:43.56 | Natechip | yes ik |
| 04:44.09 | Natechip | yes Ik. thanks :D |
| 04:45.00 | annadane | sorry for the vague reply. that really did take unnecessarily long. |
| 04:45.23 | Natechip | it is fine |
| 04:45.26 | Natechip | i have time |
| 04:47.04 | Natechip | i would like to test debian |
| 04:47.12 | Natechip | ive been on manjaro for a year now |
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| 04:55.03 | annadane | (i actually think security.debian.org doesn't support testing but apt will tell you that during upgrades if that's the case) |
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| 07:46.55 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/871779 in cifs-utils (open, upstream): «/sbin/mount.cifs: Some remote folders missing when mounting the share using -o vers=2.x option»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-08-11; last modified: 2017-08-29. |
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| 07:47.45 | darxmurf | everybody is disabling CIFS 1.0 protocol and it's a bit annoying then as folders are missing when using >2.0 |
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| 07:53.15 | RoyK | the SMB1 protocol has been outdated for *years* |
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| 07:57.42 | darxmurf | so... don't have other choice to use the 1.0 then :-/ |
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| 09:03.46 | ForceRecon | I noticed today that after a fresh install of stretch that in System monitor under File Systems it only shows the root and boot.. In the past it used to show swap as well... not that it is important.. but is it the same for others as well? |
| 09:05.00 | ForceRecon | https://paste.debian.net/992500/ |
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| 09:22.23 | opiwahn | hi. I am searching for the right linux distro. If I would like to have it debian based and a rolling release model would be "testing" than the right choice? or is testing so short after stretch was released not stable enough for productive ? |
| 09:23.42 | Nawab | opiwahn: stretch is quite right for using as a stable distro,though debian philosophy dissuades from using testing(sid) for new linux users as i can become frustrating sometimes |
| 09:24.22 | Nawab | you can try with stretch,and once you feel you hav reached the correct know-how,jump to buster,which will be the new release |
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| 09:27.37 | opiwahn | ok thank. think ill go with stretch then |
| 09:27.39 | opiwahn | first |
| 09:28.29 | Nawab | opiwahn: there are also some great linux starter books |
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| 10:12.16 | Raven737 | Hi, question: I am in debian installer via ssh. At the top, i see (1*installer) 2 shell 3 shell 4- log ... How do i switch to 2 shell? Thank you! |
| 10:14.56 | jim | are you at the installation menu? |
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| 10:15.54 | Raven737 | jim: yes, I want to set up disks |
| 10:16.47 | jim | can you do that from the partition tool? |
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| 10:17.52 | jim | anyway, you can run a shell from that menu... I don't remember how to get to the shell from ssh |
| 10:18.23 | Raven737 | jim: yes, but I want special options I can't choose via the parition tool, but never mind, i just open a second ssh and choose shell xD |
| 10:18.57 | jim | but I do know you can run one from the installation menu |
| 10:20.21 | Raven737 | jim: yes, the options at the top seem to indicate that there is a way to switch, similar to ctrl-alt-f2 or such.. except via ssh that will continue to the next step (f2?) so hence i ask how I may switch |
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| 10:21.35 | hipodilski | anyone who has succeeded changing gdm3 default console from tty1 |
| 10:23.11 | jim | hipodilski, is this from a running installation? |
| 10:24.11 | jim | normmaly, debian starts 6 gettys, on alt-f1 - alt-f6... alt-f7 should be the X display |
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| 10:28.21 | dj-death | Hi all |
| 10:28.38 | dj-death | I'm trying to figure out why compiling a binary with -m32 fails |
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| 10:28.52 | rafalcpp | how to install kerne module / driver "b2net" ? |
| 10:28.56 | dj-death | I think last time I tried it, it worked |
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| 10:29.01 | dj-death | /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/7/libgcc.a when searching for -lgcc |
| 10:29.55 | dj-death | oh dear |
| 10:30.02 | dj-death | forgot to install gcc multlib :( |
| 10:30.09 | dj-death | sorry for the noise! |
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| 10:50.42 | bumbar | i'm on debian 8.9 (jessie) and trying to do dist-upgrade, but nothing gets upgraded |
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| 10:53.57 | abrotman | bumbar: dist upgrade to what? |
| 10:54.31 | bumbar | abrotman, to stretch |
| 10:54.48 | abrotman | bumbar: pastebin your sources.list .. also, have you done any pinning? |
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| 10:56.14 | bumbar | https://dpaste.de/qDho |
| 10:56.37 | bumbar | you're right, i have some pin files |
| 10:57.36 | bumbar | it's upgrading now |
| 10:57.45 | abrotman | enjoy |
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| 11:09.49 | bumbar | abrotman, i was on the wrong server (<.<), here's the correct one sources.list: https://dpaste.de/qDTv |
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| 11:12.49 | abrotman | bumbar: is it still not working? |
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| 11:13.27 | abrotman | bumbar: the sources you just pasted are still pointing at Jessie? |
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| 11:14.14 | bumbar | should i change to stretch? this won't break anything? |
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| 11:17.59 | jelly | bumbar: if your goal is to do a release upgrade to stretch, then yes, one of the steps is actually changing the sources to point to stretch |
| 11:18.33 | jelly | bumbar: go read the stretch release notes and follow them. We'll be right here. |
| 11:18.40 | jelly | dpkg, jessie->stretch |
| 11:18.40 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/OFVv . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "jessie" to "stretch" and remove stable-specific lines like jessie-backports. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. |
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| 11:19.17 | rant | I hope that's the royal we.. cause I for one won't be here |
| 11:19.46 | jelly | operators are waiting for YOUR call! |
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| 11:20.23 | abrotman | I might be napping |
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| 11:24.27 | rafalcpp_ | how to force kernel to use other driver for NIC? it keeps loading old one hmm |
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| 11:25.40 | rafalcpp_ | e.g. I think eth5 should use be2net. how can I tell system to try using it even if it defaults to netxen? |
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| 11:27.16 | abrotman | did you check the udev settings? |
| 11:27.28 | rafalcpp_ | !blacklist |
| 11:27.28 | dpkg | To blacklist a Linux kernel module, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
| 11:27.32 | abrotman | not sure if that'll work, but if you want to mangle the driver, sure .. give it a whirl |
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| 11:27.46 | rafalcpp_ | abrotman: how that is configured on debian actually? |
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| 11:29.19 | jelly | rafalcpp_: first, both drivers need to bind the save pci or usb id. Second, do what dpkg said wrt blacklisting the unwanted driver. It's actually done that way actually. |
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| 11:29.31 | jelly | same* pci id |
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| 11:30.06 | rafalcpp_ | !blacklist-initramfs |
| 11:30.06 | dpkg | If your kernel uses an initramfs image (e.g. Debian stock kernel images), you need to run «update-initramfs -u» in order to refresh its copy of blacklist table. Otherwise, early bootup won't follow your blacklist requests in e.g. /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf |
| 11:30.20 | jelly | rafalcpp_: if the driver does not support your device's pci-id (or usb-id), it won't even try to bind it |
| 11:30.37 | jelly | verify with modinfo kernel-module-name |
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| 11:38.29 | abrotman | jelly: you're taking the fun out of it :) |
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| 12:42.36 | ForceRecon | is there a known application that when you click on phone numbers on websites that it opens a dialer and calls out over the internet so you can use your headset instead of a phone |
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| 12:43.36 | FinalX | Skype? |
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| 12:45.12 | ne2k | ForceRecon, you probably want a browser plugin that handles phone numbers via a VoIP application. there are many. Google Talk and Chrome is pretty good. |
| 12:46.44 | number28 | My boot up time has been increased by a couple of minutes. This is due to my Network Manager Wait Online service. I've attempted to mask and even disable the service, but somehow when i boot it always launches and the my system is always waiting for a DHCP response from eth0. (Pointless being this is a laptop) This happened out of nowhere after my interfaces 'randomly' reverted back to the old wlan0, eth0 naming format. |
| 12:46.46 | ForceRecon | yeah I have used google hangouts now I believe it is called from google voice.. I guess that is what I have to do |
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| 12:48.09 | ForceRecon | number28, a couple minutes.. wow.. that blows.. |
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| 12:49.31 | number28 | ForceRecon, There is roughly 4 minutes of hang time due to this service. |
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| 12:51.10 | number28 | Anyone know a solution to this problem? |
| 12:52.34 | ForceRecon | have you read this - https://askubuntu.com/questions/615006/ubuntu-15-04-network-manager-causing-slow-boot |
| 12:52.36 | ForceRecon | if it applies |
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| 12:57.44 | ne2k | what with all the sysvinit vs systemd changes that have happened of late while I've been asleep, what is the recommended way in stretch of running autossh at startup? |
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| 12:58.38 | AndreasLutro | systemd service file |
| 13:00.50 | nulleip | systemctl enable ssh |
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| 13:01.51 | durg | is autossh different from normal ssh? |
| 13:01.53 | metastable | Yes. |
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| 13:02.42 | ne2k | nulleip, does that include autossh? if so, where is it configured? |
| 13:03.00 | metastable | ne2k: It does not. |
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| 13:03.17 | metastable | ne2k: You'd most likely have to write your own systemd unit for this. |
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| 13:04.28 | ne2k | metastable, oh boy. got a lot of learning to do about systemd! can I make it run as an unprivileged user? |
| 13:04.59 | metastable | ne2k: Writing systemd units is actually a fairly simple affair. And yes. |
| 13:05.19 | ne2k | or actually, is there any point, given that I'm going to be running -R to forward a port back to ssh on here? |
| 13:05.28 | FinalX | but be careful, systemd does not fail on putting a non-existing username, and it'll just run it as root. |
| 13:05.34 | FinalX | (yes, it's messed up) |
| 13:05.47 | tempate | Hello. I've recently upgraded to Debian 9.2 and Firefox is not working properly. It does load websites as duckduckgo.com or google.com but it fails when loading youtube.com (Time out). I just got a fresh copy of firefox but everything is the same. Any idea why and how should I fix it? |
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| 13:06.06 | metastable | tempate: Are you able to ping the affected domain name? |
| 13:06.13 | durg | can debian be used as a firmware for managed switches with >= 48 ports? |
| 13:06.25 | ne2k | durg, no |
| 13:06.49 | metastable | durg: Depends entirely on the switch. In most cases, no, as the firmware for the switch is written to work with the custom ASICs usually found driving the switchports. |
| 13:07.08 | tempate | metastable: yes, Chromium on the other hand loads everything pretty quickly |
| 13:07.17 | durg | ah, that's a pity. |
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| 13:07.54 | durg | i wasn't aware they use asics |
| 13:08.33 | ne2k | durg, what did you think a switch was? |
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| 13:10.54 | durg | some kind of computer transporting my network traffic to the appropriate MAC address |
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| 13:11.13 | tempate | metastable: any idea what's going on? |
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| 13:11.26 | metastable | tempate: Not without a lot more data. |
| 13:11.30 | durg | similiar to a router, just different |
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| 13:13.45 | tempate | metastable: what more data do you need then? |
| 13:16.47 | gftg | tempate: Have you tried with a fresh firefox profile? |
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| 13:19.20 | ForceRecon | I use a vpn service from home.. each time I reboot my pc I have to remember to run terminal and connect to the vpn.. Is there any way I can automate the process in linux |
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| 13:19.26 | ForceRecon | based on reboot |
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| 13:19.43 | durg | tempate, have you been using this firefox profile for some time? i remember that firefox slowed down a lot after remembering many pages on one of my slower machines. |
| 13:19.55 | ne2k | cd |
| 13:19.57 | ne2k | lol |
| 13:20.04 | durg | you can disable it in the options, though |
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| 13:20.22 | tempate | durg: yes I have |
| 13:20.32 | tempate | gftg: no I haven't |
| 13:20.50 | Droid2Debian | Swktch to chrpme or chromium |
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| 13:21.56 | b4d | Hi, I would like to add gw to ipv6 interface without rebooting, or reloading ipv4 settings, how can I do that from cli? I have added gw gateway_ipv6_address to the "iface eth0 inet6 static" block in /etc/network/interfaces. Thanks |
| 13:22.17 | durg | you could start firefox with firefox -p, create a new profile and see if the problem goes away |
| 13:22.22 | gftg | tempate: I would test with a fresh profile (you can access the profile manager with 'firefox --ProfileManager', then create a test profile) |
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| 13:24.14 | gftg | tempate: PS: firefox needs to be closed when trying to open the profile manager (if it's open, the command will only open a new window). |
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| 13:24.53 | ForceRecon | maybe a better question.. How do you auto connect to a vpn.. When I edit network connections there is nothing in my dropdown list for connect to vpn on start.. how do you fill that field |
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| 13:25.16 | tempate | gftg: alright, thank you |
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| 13:26.00 | metastable | b4d: ip -6 route add default via <v6gw_addr> src <local_if_v6_addr> |
| 13:28.33 | ne2k | ForceRecon, disto? cli or gui? |
| 13:29.19 | b4d | metastable: thanks |
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| 13:30.28 | ne2k | metastable, I think I may have conquered my fear and written a working systemd unit! ok, well, I say written. I pilfered it from an article online. ;-) but at least I knew what i was looking for |
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| 13:30.57 | ForceRecon | ne2k, regarding what... to connect to the vpn now I just run a command in terminal.. there is no gui for it.. so it must be cli.. |
| 13:31.36 | metastable | ForceRecon: "a VPN" is extremely vague. What kind of VPN? |
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| 13:32.17 | durg | if it is openvpn you can run it as a systemd service |
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| 13:32.21 | Bert_2 | Hi guys, can I allow-hotplug vlan interfaces such as "eth0.20"? |
| 13:32.34 | ForceRecon | I was just informed that this command may work - expressvpn autoconnect true |
| 13:32.35 | ForceRecon | Auto-connect is enabled. |
| 13:32.46 | ForceRecon | so I might have just resolved it.. |
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| 13:33.32 | durg | is expressvpn in the debian repo? |
| 13:33.52 | ForceRecon | I don't think so. I just like this company.. been using them awhile |
| 13:34.00 | ForceRecon | https://www.expressvpn.xyz/ |
| 13:34.17 | metastable | Bert_2: I doubt it, given that VLANs are a layer 2 concern, and allow-hotplug devices are brought up as soon as udev detects the physical device. |
| 13:34.30 | ForceRecon | I know there are free ways to do it, but I know these guys are fast and reliable.. |
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| 13:34.41 | metastable | Bert_2: What are you actually trying to do? |
| 13:34.52 | durg | ok, personally i do not like closed source clients |
| 13:35.02 | durg | if that is what it is |
| 13:35.18 | ne2k | Bert_2, how would it know? |
| 13:35.58 | metastable | durg: An open source client wouldn't really change the trust model, here. There's no assurance regarding what the third-party VPN provider does with your traffic once it's across the tunnel. |
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| 13:39.30 | durg | metastable: you can check if the tunnel at least keeps out third parties, or if there are backdoors and security problems. |
| 13:39.39 | Bert_2 | metastable: I have a hotplug interface and I want all associated vlans to come online when the interface is hotplugged |
| 13:39.42 | metastable | durg: So? |
| 13:39.48 | Bert_2 | ne2k: I'm asking myself the same auestion |
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| 13:40.04 | metastable | durg: All of that is a pointless undertaking if you're still forced to trust the othre end to not do evil things, which is far simpler to do from that end. |
| 13:40.41 | metastable | Bert_2: Set the physical interface to 'allow-hotplug', and then enter 'iface eth0 inet manual' so that the interface itself comes up, but does nothing. |
| 13:41.07 | Bert_2 | metastable: what does inet manual mean? I only now static and dhcp |
| 13:41.34 | metastable | Bert_2: manual means bring the device up, but apply no configuration. |
| 13:41.58 | metastable | Bert_2: Let me work up a sample config for you, I've done this. |
| 13:42.03 | Bert_2 | metastable: I see, but we also want that interface to have an IP when it is hotplugged |
| 13:42.18 | Bert_2 | metastable: cool, thx |
| 13:42.47 | ne2k | I really do wish people would stop using the term "VPN" to mean "encrypted proxy service" |
| 13:43.07 | ne2k | VPN means a virtual private network. if you are proxying out on to the internet, it's not a private network, is it? it's the Internet |
| 13:43.22 | ne2k | it's ferkin retarded |
| 13:43.33 | durg | ne2k: that's actually a good point |
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| 13:44.56 | metastable | Bert_2: https://paste.debian.net/992533/ |
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| 13:45.38 | metastable | Strictly speaking, a VPN is a tunnel (encrypted or not) that contains encapsulated traffic to be deencapsulated at the other end. It's a virtual Ethernet cable. |
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| 13:46.16 | durg | metastable: i think trusting someone and connecting to them with a safe client is different from trusting them and connecting to them with an unsafe client, which may invite other people to spy on your data as well. |
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| 13:46.38 | metastable | The 'private' part of 'VPN' means that you're tunneling LAN traffic (typically using RFC 1918 private address spaces) over a WAN connection. |
| 13:46.46 | lilalinux | Is there a specific reason npm isn't contained in nodejs in debian stretch? |
| 13:47.05 | ForceRecon | which means exactly what it means, virtually private ;) |
| 13:47.49 | jolt | lilalinux: Yes. It moves too quickly. They have official packages themselfs though |
| 13:48.16 | lilalinux | https://deb.nodesource.com? |
| 13:48.17 | ne2k | metastable, that's a VPN link or tunnel. not a VPN. a VPN is a NETWORK. hence the name. made up of at least two hosts with at least one link/tunnel between them |
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| 13:48.36 | jolt | lilalinux: Yes, nodesource is the one |
| 13:48.45 | lilalinux | should I uninstall nodejs first? |
| 13:48.48 | jolt | lilalinux: https://github.com/nodesource/distributions#debinstall |
| 13:48.58 | jolt | lilalinux: I have no idea. :/ |
| 13:49.01 | jolt | probably |
| 13:49.03 | lilalinux | thank you |
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| 13:49.11 | jolt | lilalinux: np |
| 13:49.19 | ForceRecon | I use a pc, here with a VPN to a remote machine which is connected to another vpn and Tor for the most part.. it means little to nothing other than the fact you VIRTUALLY feel safer knowing you are not directly connected to the internet like we used to do about what 15 years ago.. |
| 13:49.54 | ne2k | what you are getting with these services is a VPN connection to a proxy, and a proxy service. which is fine if you think that helps you (which in 9/10 cases, it probably doesn't). but it's not "a VPN" |
| 13:50.26 | ForceRecon | well then I guess they should all change their names.. false advertising |
| 13:50.28 | metastable | Are you establishing a connection to a remote system via a tunnel? Yes? Then it's a VPN. |
| 13:51.02 | metastable | ne2k: And you just totally contradicted your own extremely hair-splitting definitions, btw. |
| 13:51.20 | metastable | Anyway, this discussion has gone off-topic. |
| 13:51.58 | ne2k | metastable, I didn't. my point is that, to call the service "a VPN" is misleading. the fact that it uses a VPN connection as part of it does not change that |
| 13:52.47 | ForceRecon | heres a picture of how it works - http://www.vpncomparison.org/provider/expressvpn/ :) |
| 13:52.53 | ne2k | calling the service "a VPN" makes it sound as thought you have a virtual private network for your own use. you do not. you merely have an encrypted tunnel to a proxy |
| 13:53.20 | metastable | ForceRecon: That's literally how -every- public VPN provider works. :P |
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| 13:54.34 | ne2k | I'm not saying it's of no use to anyone. I'm just saying i dislike the misleading terminology. it makes people think that that is what a VPN is, that that is all a VPN is useful for. and makes people ask for help "with their VPN", which is confusing |
| 13:54.47 | durg | forcerecon, if you tor, tor probably is the most anonymous part of the connection |
| 13:54.52 | ForceRecon | yeah I am just feeding the fire at this moment.. its actually a good topic but should be in #debian-offtopic not here |
| 13:55.00 | ne2k | I'm going to shut up now |
| 13:55.04 | ne2k | I've said my piece |
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| 13:56.27 | ForceRecon | I used to do this - freenodeok2gncmy.onion - https://freenode.net/news/tor-online |
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| 13:56.59 | styks1987 | Is there a way to require http basic auth at the server level instead of using apache or some other system to handle the authorization? |
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| 13:57.21 | ForceRecon | setting it up twice was enough.. at this time I should be an expert but still have to go over my notes for implementing it and lots of times it won't reconnect which is a real pain.. |
| 13:57.34 | jelly | styks1987: um, http basic auth is managed at the http server level |
| 13:57.56 | ForceRecon | jelly in the house! |
| 13:58.10 | jelly | so if you're using apache as a http server then you'll set it up in apache |
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| 13:58.52 | durg | maybe you just want a smaller server? |
| 13:58.55 | styks1987 | jelly: thanks, so to provide authorization one level higher would require some other method? Meaning before it even hits the http server |
| 13:58.57 | durg | *http server |
| 13:59.30 | SirLagz | styks1987: you could firewall things so they don't get to the http server at all... |
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| 14:00.44 | ne2k | styks1987, you probably want to look at nginx |
| 14:00.48 | ne2k | reverse proxy |
| 14:01.12 | ne2k | styks1987, are you talking about authenticating unauthenticated webapps running on certain ports? |
| 14:01.16 | ne2k | without fiddling with the webapps |
| 14:01.34 | petn-randall | You could put haproxy in front of apache and do the http basic auth there. |
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| 14:02.26 | styks1987 | I want to secure a test server and only allow access with a password. I could do it at the apache level but before I update 50 config files, I wanted tosee if there was a less tenuous way to block access |
| 14:02.36 | styks1987 | only allowing from certain ips and users with passwords |
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| 14:02.45 | styks1987 | petn-randall: Iâll look at haproxy |
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| 14:03.15 | ne2k | styks1987, nginx is made for this kind of thing. I haven't used haproxy but it might do the job too, no idea |
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| 14:04.01 | elios | hi, i tried to install abiword and after i start it up the screen is flickering like crazy. |
| 14:04.55 | elios | can't remember that happening with debian jessie. |
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| 14:07.02 | elios | i don't think it will be different if i install libre-office. |
| 14:07.50 | gpunk | it should |
| 14:07.58 | gpunk | that flickering is with abiword only |
| 14:08.01 | gpunk | happend to me |
| 14:08.14 | elios | gpunk: well trolled but i have the same result with scite. |
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| 14:08.25 | gpunk | trolled ? |
| 14:08.30 | gpunk | you mean I troll ? |
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| 14:09.03 | elios | why should it be different with libre-office? |
| 14:09.13 | durg | i think the graphics card and the driver you are using might be helpful |
| 14:09.19 | gpunk | different peaces of software |
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| 14:09.58 | elios | i think it has something to do with gtk |
| 14:10.15 | durg | maybe |
| 14:10.31 | elios | and libre-office uses that too somehow |
| 14:10.40 | elios | i think. |
| 14:10.52 | durg | still, there must be a reason why some users experience this problem and others don't |
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| 14:15.08 | gpunk | yes keep all thinking instead of acting , that the whole world problem |
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| 14:16.37 | durg | which graphics card and driver are you using, elios? :-) |
| 14:17.17 | elios | i have tried on system with open source driver and another with free ones. same result |
| 14:17.28 | elios | durg: radeon |
| 14:17.46 | gpunk | open source are the free ones ... |
| 14:17.51 | elios | no |
| 14:17.54 | elios | they aren't |
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| 14:18.14 | elios | open-source=non-free |
| 14:18.31 | gpunk | lol |
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| 14:19.34 | elios | gpunk: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
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| 14:19.45 | gpunk | get lost |
| 14:20.03 | elios | you need firmware which isn't free |
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| 14:20.25 | metastable | ... uh... |
| 14:20.55 | necrose99 | for debian webdav , virtual directory ie packages which is best , so far cant get lighthttp to point out |
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| 14:21.52 | necrose99 | i have (deb 9 arm64 host) gentoo chroot to were exposing binkgs , would be useful on arm64 |
| 14:22.09 | metastable | elios: The open source driver itself IS free. The firmware isn't REQUIRED for it to function. You usually don't get the performance without adding the non-free component, though. |
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| 14:23.50 | zarzar | is it no longer possible to change the jenkins home directory through the web interface? |
| 14:23.50 | jelly | styks1987: you would have to use a http reverse proxy (be it haproxy or nginx or a commerical WAF solution...), which in itself is a http server. http basic auth is part of the protocol. |
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| 14:25.49 | zarzar | wrong channel my bad |
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| 14:27.14 | durg | elios: and which card? what does lspci say? |
| 14:27.33 | elios | metastable: yeah i know |
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| 14:28.10 | elios | metastable: i have tried on both |
| 14:29.03 | ne2k | metastable, I've decided I actually want two autossh sessions running at once. I've created a unit in /lib/systemd that has an environmentfile with the actual details in it (currently /etc/default/autossh). what would be the cleanest way to extend this to multiple sessions? |
| 14:29.06 | elios | durg: it's a radeon (amd) |
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| 14:31.26 | ne2k | metastable, I'm thinking I want to make /etc/autossh.d/, put my connections in there and then write the unit file to handle them |
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| 14:33.20 | elios | there any QT based word processor? |
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| 14:36.33 | Unicorn437 | hello there, me again, my debian is booting into black, recovery works, I believe its the graphics drivers, is there an easy way to test that? |
| 14:37.06 | hexhaxtron | I got a very powerful computer and graphics card. Can I play all the latest Windows games on Debian? |
| 14:37.13 | durg | there seems to be tea, but i never tried it @elios |
| 14:37.15 | ne2k | hexhaxtron, no |
| 14:37.25 | Unicorn437 | @hexhaxtron not all windows games are debian compatible |
| 14:37.42 | hexhaxtron | ne2k: not even with kvm or other hypervisor? |
| 14:38.00 | durg | i'd also try the VESA driver and see if the problem goes away |
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| 14:38.17 | ne2k | hexhaxtron, that's not playing it on debian, that's playing it on windows in a VM |
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| 14:38.50 | ne2k | hexhaxtron, if you can do GPU passthrough, you might have luck. otherwise, I would expect the performance to suck massively |
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| 14:39.26 | gpunk | there are plenty of tripleA games on steam for example |
| 14:39.34 | gpunk | for linux |
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| 14:39.53 | durg | yes, they have quite nice linux support for gamers |
| 14:39.59 | gpunk | :) |
| 14:40.30 | elios | gpunk: that's a text editor, not a word processor. |
| 14:40.54 | gpunk | wps office you can try |
| 14:40.57 | durg | however, i think you still have to use their app, which digs deeply into the system at least in windows |
| 14:41.27 | JustASlacker | some stuff works with wine, some stuff has good linux support |
| 14:41.32 | JustASlacker | mostly the answer is no |
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| 14:44.53 | elios | what's wps... maybe i should start with latex? |
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| 14:45.57 | jelly | which tool to use to reindent python from 8 spaces to 4 spaces? |
| 14:46.04 | durg | i think you can just try any application using qt |
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| 14:47.15 | durg | @elios |
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| 14:47.59 | durg | in case you want to test if using qt solves the problem |
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| 14:48.43 | JustASlacker | jelly: any editor? |
| 14:48.53 | elios | i just need to write a letter ... |
| 14:49.13 | necrose99 | hexhaxtron Lutris is handy for games on gentoo , likely on debian also , crosstie-wine 50 a year however more stubborn games or apps they just work |
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| 14:49.48 | starsparrow | jelly: just use find/replace in any text editor? |
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| 14:50.28 | starsparrow | or do you need a scriptable solution to apply to many files? |
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| 14:51.05 | elios | who should i be mad at now, gtk or amd... probably the latter. |
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| 14:51.28 | elios | but* |
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| 14:52.11 | durg | you can find out by using the VESA driver instead of radeon, i think most cards should still support it |
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| 15:36.29 | durg | !verify |
| 15:36.43 | HeXiLeD | on windows |
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| 15:42.46 | durg | you check the signature of the (say) SHA256SUM file with gpg and then check if the hashsums in the file are the same as in the files you downloaded |
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| 15:43.18 | annadane | yes but that doesn't help without giving specific commands |
| 15:43.22 | durg | if it is ob a dvd, you can feed the block device into sha256sum with dd |
| 15:43.29 | annadane | people aren't going to know how to do that just by describing it |
| 15:43.35 | durg | yes, not sure how to do it on windows |
| 15:43.56 | annadane | well, as i said, failing other solutions you can just use cygwin |
| 15:44.07 | annadane | https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-how-to-verify-ubuntu#0 is much more specific, i expect debian is not much different |
| 15:44.16 | annadane | larvallid, ^ |
| 15:45.02 | annadane | *now* the only question is how do you get keys from the keyring, because that isn't obvious either |
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| 15:45.33 | annadane | if anyone has a better/clearer explaination please do chime in |
| 15:46.33 | annadane | larvallid, sorry, you're probably not better off following that to the letter, because that's ubuntu specific |
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| 15:46.55 | durg | depending on your security needs you could just download the cd signing key mentioned on the debian homepage from a public keyserver |
| 15:46.55 | annadane | so i don't really have an answer for you, i'm sure somebody does |
| 15:47.49 | durg | i think gpg also tells you which key you need if you do not have it (not sure how this works) |
| 15:48.22 | teraflops | durg: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/248363/how-to-verify-debian-cds-with-gpg/248366 |
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| 15:48.30 | annadane | this is something i ought to be able to answer better. giving vague answers to simple questions is a very bad habit |
| 15:48.39 | annadane | there you go. stackexchange to the rescue |
| 15:50.01 | durg | well, vague sometimes also means more human-readable |
| 15:50.33 | teraflops | vague also means inaccurate |
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| 15:51.48 | larvallid | annadane, durg, teraflops, on debian, i can use isosize to get the sector and bs of the disc, then use dd to read exactly that number of sectors and bs, and pipe it to sha256sum. how do i do that on windows? |
| 15:51.50 | durg | not sure, would have to check it out in the dictionary |
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| 15:52.21 | ne2k | larvallid, ask on a windows channel? |
| 15:52.22 | teraflops | larvallid: the same if you have same binaries there |
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| 15:55.26 | larvallid | ok. |
| 15:55.43 | larvallid | teraflops, what do you mean by same binaries? |
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| 15:58.38 | durg | maybe cygwin |
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| 16:02.24 | durg | apparently there also is sha256sum.exe for windows |
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| 16:04.22 | ne2k | I don't think that's the problem |
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| 16:07.46 | ne2k | https://superuser.com/a/456008 this might help |
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| 16:09.46 | esaym153 | what is this apt issue: http://paste.debian.net/992556/ really ticking me off |
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| 16:12.57 | mtn | esaym153, pretty straight forward. that source does not have the sigs downloaded or are invalid |
| 16:13.18 | mtn | esaym153, use another mirror? |
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| 16:13.34 | esaym153 | mtn: figured, but don't understand how. That is a popular mirror, and its been that way for several days now |
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| 16:16.06 | `slikts | I have msmtp and msmtp-mta set up, how can I get the mail command to work now? |
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| 16:16.18 | `slikts | I don't want to type out headers to set subject, etc. |
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| 16:18.11 | `slikts | guess I need mailutils |
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| 16:18.23 | jelly | `slikts: if msmtp-mta is configured you ought to be able to just echo test | mailx -s 'test subject' recipient@example.org |
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| 16:18.44 | `slikts | oh |
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| 16:18.45 | jelly | `slikts: you probably already have bsd-mailx |
| 16:18.59 | `slikts | jelly: I don't |
| 16:19.06 | `slikts | Installed: (none) |
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| 16:19.47 | jelly | grab that one, or whatever heirloom-mailx is called now |
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| 16:20.02 | `slikts | well, the mailx command works |
| 16:20.10 | `slikts | so I'm set, thanks |
| 16:20.20 | `slikts | not sure why it's mailx and not mail, though |
| 16:20.42 | jelly | a package that provides one usually provides the other as well |
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| 16:21.04 | jelly | different syntax for historical reasons |
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| 16:21.42 | jelly | dpkg -S $(readlink -f $(which mailx)) |
| 16:21.43 | dpkg | Dingos ate my $(readlink -f $(which mailx))! |
| 16:21.48 | jelly | nooo |
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| 16:23.00 | jhutchins_wk | AWS apparently does not have Debian images, just Ubuntu, RH, SuSE, and their own flavor of Linux. |
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| 16:23.05 | `slikts | hmm actually mailutils get the mail commands working for me |
| 16:23.12 | `slikts | not msmtp-mta |
| 16:23.17 | `slikts | *got |
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| 16:30.35 | ne2k | jhutchins_wk, Ubuntu probably won't bite. it's fairly heavily Debian based |
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| 16:31.45 | ScottE | Sure there are jhutchins_wk - Click on "AWS Marketplace" in the console and search for Debian. They aren't on the main page, but they are there (and produced by Debian) |
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| 16:38.30 | Fludixx | hi :D |
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| 16:39.44 | jhutchins_wk | ne2k: I've run it as a desktop, don't think I'd choose it for a server. |
| 16:39.59 | jhutchins_wk | ScottE: Ah, good to know. |
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| 16:43.37 | jhutchins_wk | ScottE: I don't see the link but I just googled aws marketplace and found it. |
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| 16:44.29 | maxzor | hello, I boot on a desktop on sata2, I have a HDD on sata1, it is recognised in bios, how do i get to mount it in stretch? |
| 16:44.29 | ne2k | jhutchins_wk, ubuntu? I've used it on lots of servers. not because I've been thorough and tested loads of stuff and found it was the best for my requirements, but because $work standardized on it many years ago and there has been no reason to change |
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| 16:45.07 | ScottE | Great jhutchins_wk glad you found them - sorry, there was no link - I should have been a bit more clear when I said "click on"... :-/ |
| 16:45.58 | ne2k | maxzor, lsblk should get you info about block devices |
| 16:46.18 | ne2k | maxzor, then use mount to mount it. and put it in /etc/fstab if you want it mounted persistently |
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| 16:49.20 | ne2k | maxzor, blkid to get the UUID for fstab so it works even if you move the drives around |
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| 16:58.21 | maxzor | ne2k, thank you I saved your sentences so I can properly learn about mounting later, I am quite in a rush. My ssd i boot with is sda, my hdd is sdb(1). To mount it temporarily : "mount sdb1"? |
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| 16:59.45 | jhutchins_wk | maxzor: Seriously, have a quick scan of the manpage. |
| 16:59.47 | ne2k | maxzor, you need a mount point too. e.g. /mnt/ or /media/blah or osmething. mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt |
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| 17:00.07 | ne2k | maxzor, and you most likely need to do it as root |
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| 17:01.00 | maxzor | jhutchins_wk, yep im missing some real basics :/, thanks ne2k |
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| 17:04.33 | `slikts | I put this script in /etc/network/if-up.d and chmod +x it, yet it doesn't work https://hastebin.com/pepapequje.sh |
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| 17:04.51 | `slikts | I just want to get an email with the ip address when eth0 comes up |
| 17:05.53 | greycat | Then put a script in /etc/dhcp/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/ |
| 17:06.06 | `slikts | why there? |
| 17:06.12 | `slikts | and not in if-up.d |
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| 17:13.19 | `slikts | seems like a simple thing, but is somehow difficult |
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| 17:22.52 | `slikts | guess I'll just give up, no idea how to debug when things don't work |
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| 17:23.41 | greycat | `slikts: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/IpAddress |
| 17:23.42 | jhutchins_wk | `slikts: I used to do that with a cron job that posted the address to an always-up server. |
| 17:23.54 | greycat | Scroll down to "Here's an example, from Debian 8" |
| 17:24.05 | greycat | jhutchins_wk: you too! |
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| 17:27.24 | candidat1 | hey greycat ! how are you ? do you know how synergy works ? i can t make it work there is an error it says can t connect to X server |
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| 17:28.12 | candidat1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.12 | candidat1 | synergy: cannot connect to X server :0 |
| 17:28.35 | candidat1 | both pc are under linux one with ubuntu the other with debian |
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| 17:30.12 | candidat1 | does anybody knows a good program to make 2 pc work with 1 mouse and keyboard ? |
| 17:30.26 | greycat | x2x |
| 17:30.28 | jhutchins_wk | greycat: You do not appear to have Debian 8 on there. |
| 17:31.20 | candidat1 | thanks i will do that greycat :) |
| 17:31.22 | jhutchins_wk | greycat: There's also the new interface naming scheme. |
| 17:31.33 | greycat | jhutchins_wk: why the fuck would that matter? |
| 17:32.16 | greycat | I'm sure the interface name is provided in yet another env var, if you care about it for some reason. |
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| 17:32.24 | jhutchins_wk | greycat: "Linux calls all ethernet interfaces eth..." |
| 17:32.49 | greycat | oh, you're reading some other section of the page. sure, that's probably out of date. |
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| 17:36.16 | `slikts | greycat: how do I check if that script is even executing? |
| 17:36.29 | greycat | by having it write something somewhere |
| 17:36.56 | `slikts | tried that, so I guess it's not |
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| 17:40.03 | hipodilski | hi i'm experiencing very odd problem, sometimes my connection to some ports appears like filtered |
| 17:40.24 | hipodilski | i'm running debian 9,i mean connections to remote host to ports like 22 or 21 |
| 17:40.49 | hipodilski | the strange thing is that iptables rules are empty on the machine from which I'm connecting |
| 17:41.08 | jelly | hipodilski: is it a physical machine, VM, container? |
| 17:41.31 | hipodilski | jelly: physical machine |
| 17:41.43 | hipodilski | i have two thinkpad notebooks both with debian and the problem happens on both |
| 17:41.54 | hipodilski | i don't think it is a network related issue |
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| 17:42.17 | hipodilski | and suddenly it works after some time unable to connect to my remote ssh host |
| 17:42.25 | jelly | hipodilski: and can you reproduce this going from a physical machine to another machine in the same network segment, with no router involved? |
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| 17:42.58 | `slikts | I have echo "bla">/tmp/blabla in the dhclient-exit-hooks.d script, and there's no /tmp/blabla |
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| 17:43.19 | `slikts | so what now? |
| 17:43.25 | `slikts | how do you debug this junk not working |
| 17:43.31 | jelly | `slikts: does the script have a #! first line? |
| 17:43.35 | `slikts | yes |
| 17:43.45 | hipodilski | jelly: i don't think so |
| 17:44.03 | hipodilski | could it be related to sysctl kernel setting I've some custom ones here |
| 17:44.13 | candidat1 | x2x: display names are both :0 how do you change x server name ? |
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| 17:44.56 | jhutchins_wk | hipodilski: Are we supposed to guess what they might be? |
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| 17:45.16 | hipodilski | I'm going to share them |
| 17:45.26 | jelly | hipodilski: does ping work between the same source and destination when this happens? |
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| 17:46.26 | `slikts | so I guess maybe dhclient-exit-hooks.d just don't work in raspbian |
| 17:47.06 | hipodilski | http://pc-freak.net/files/sysctl-custom-noah.conf |
| 17:47.11 | jelly | hipodilski: if you can reproduce it on the local network, make sure you're really reaching the right destination -- when it happens, verify there's no ip address conflict; that is, the mac address for destination in your "arp -an" output should match the mac address of the destination machine's network card |
| 17:47.59 | hipodilski | jelly: the strange thing is for example port 80 reaches fine, and same time port 22, 21 are not ok |
| 17:48.03 | jelly | `slikts: can you reproduce this with an actual debian userspace, not raspbian? |
| 17:48.32 | jelly | hipodilski: okay. But verify ping and mac addresses next time it happens. |
| 17:48.32 | durg | i remember i had a similiar issue with scripts in /etc/network/if-up.d, i had to add a line to /etc/network/interfaces to make the script run before bringing eth0 up |
| 17:49.07 | jelly | `slikts: if you have issues configuring raspbian, the right place to ask is the #raspbian channel |
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| 17:50.55 | mary_jane | omg weeeeeeeeeeeeed |
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| 17:51.24 | jelly | oh key geeknerd |
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| 17:52.12 | hipodilski | jelly: I don't think mac adresses will be problem, that's different pcs i have two linuxes and one mac os x here and an iphone connected to the network |
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| 17:53.12 | jelly | hipodilski: are these all workstation machines? Why the hell are you tampering with all that tcp/ip stuff? |
| 17:54.11 | jelly | hipodilski: why do you need to turn your laptops into routers? |
| 17:54.14 | jelly | net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 |
| 17:54.53 | OS-31107 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:55.01 | jelly | OS-31107: no. |
| 17:55.34 | jelly | OS-31107: now do that without a space in front of /msg |
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| 17:56.49 | OS-31107 | lol it was a joke |
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| 17:59.12 | elios | alright if anyone interested i solved the problem with compositioning. |
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| 17:59.17 | galex-713 | Hi |
| 17:59.32 | galex-713 | Under Debian with KDE, what is supposed to launch something such as ssh-agent/gpg-agent? |
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| 17:59.52 | hipodilski | jelly: it is an old configuration I was using my notebook occasionally as router, but I don't think this has something to do with the problem |
| 18:00.09 | jelly | elios: now you have to explain the solution and the problem! |
| 18:00.35 | hipodilski | jelly: and i have another laptop where the same problem occurs occasionally with fresh debian 9 |
| 18:00.52 | jelly | hipodilski: I think you'd better prove it, by removing all the custom stuff, and rebooting, and seeing if it happens again |
| 18:01.01 | hipodilski | and to tell you the truth since one of them was with wheezy, this issues never occured on the wheezy |
| 18:01.29 | elios | jelly: i had a flickering window when using abiword, which seems a gtk bug and can be rexolved with installing a compositor. |
| 18:01.42 | elios | s/rex/res |
| 18:01.45 | jelly | oh, a workaround. |
| 18:01.53 | hipodilski | jelly: yes I'll try that but besides the ip_forward I don't think any of the other settings can influence |
| 18:01.55 | jelly | elios: what did you use, compton? |
| 18:02.02 | elios | jelly: yeah :D |
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| 18:02.32 | jelly | hipodilski: I don't care what you think at this point, there's lots of cargo-culting and stuff useful for servers only in there |
| 18:03.41 | jelly | best start with a clean slate |
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| 18:07.23 | jelly | hipodilski: prepare tcpdump on both ends in advance, but especially on the destination; if all packets fail to arrive at the destination, not just affected ports, that will point to an ip conflict (but so will arp contents if you can reproduce on local network) |
| 18:07.55 | jelly | hipodilski: if only some packets fail to arrive at the destination, that will require further study on the source and network |
| 18:08.24 | jelly | hipodilski: if all packets arrive at the destination, that will point to problems at the destination system |
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| 18:09.37 | jelly | but some of the stuff you're changing I haven't even heard of; and some are for very specific situations |
| 18:10.13 | jelly | and some change the behaviour of linux networking _completely_, like ip_forward |
| 18:10.26 | hipodilski | jelly: yes |
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| 18:13.13 | hipodilski | jelly: yes there is a point in that actually the sysctl is from my old notebook which I did used for a testbed for stuff in the past and did not use it for a long time .. |
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| 18:19.22 | jhutchins_wk | hipodilski: I think I would remove any of the sysconfig stuff that you don't currently need just for the sake of standardization, but I don't think there's anything there that would cause what you're describing. |
| 18:19.53 | jhutchins_wk | hipodilski: There are good reasons some networks block ports like 21 and more rarely 22. |
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| 18:21.28 | hipodilski | jhutchins_wk: yes I'll do that thx |
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| 18:32.11 | lroe | how do I disable autoconfig on for link local ipv6 addresses? |
| 18:32.28 | lroe | I tried echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/autoconf |
| 18:32.45 | lroe | but when i down/up an interface I still get an auto link-local address |
| 18:32.51 | Dagger | you don't. just leave the link-locals alone |
| 18:32.56 | Dagger | they're needed for some stuff to work anyway |
| 18:33.25 | lroe | Dagger, yes, I am assigning link-local addresses |
| 18:33.36 | lroe | I don't want the auto-configured addresses |
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| 18:34.56 | metastable | lroe: Leave them alone. |
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| 18:35.14 | metastable | lroe: They're not hurting you or affecting you in any way. |
| 18:35.52 | lroe | you are wrong, it was a simple question. |
| 18:36.05 | metastable | lroe: No, i'm not wrong. And it's a simple answer. |
| 18:37.29 | jhutchins_wk | hipodilski: Can you see anything in the logs on the remote boxes that might suggest why they're intermittent? Could it be load/too many connections from a DOS? |
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| 18:37.47 | lroe | guess I'll ask elsewhere |
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| 18:38.05 | metastable | lroe: Or you could share why you think you need to do this. Up to you. |
| 18:38.42 | lroe | I am setting up a lab and I want the host portion of the link-local and the global to match |
| 18:39.13 | metastable | Why? |
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| 18:39.30 | candidat1 | how can i change the display number ? |
| 18:39.35 | candidat1 | to make x2x works |
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| 18:40.07 | lroe | why not |
| 18:40.21 | candidat1 | help |
| 18:40.33 | metastable | lroe: ... Why? |
| 18:40.40 | lroe | ... why not? |
| 18:40.54 | metastable | lroe: So you have no actual reason other than wanting to screw with things you don't understand. Have fun with that. |
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| 18:41.05 | Dagger | lroe: because it's unnecessary effort |
| 18:41.13 | candidat1 | how do i change the x display number ?? |
| 18:41.21 | Dagger | you're asking us how to disable the automatic addresses. if you weren't trying to do this, then you wouldn't need to do that |
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| 18:41.39 | Dagger | it's also extra config that you have to do on every computer |
| 18:42.04 | lroe | thanks for the pointers.... |
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| 18:43.30 | jhutchins_wk | candidat1: Usually something like :0 |
| 18:43.35 | rakor | Hey there. Can I somehow see what apt installed or updated last (and when)? Is there a database or something? |
| 18:43.58 | jhutchins_wk | candidat1: You can set it when you start X, and connect to the alternate display by specifying it. |
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| 18:44.11 | greycat | /var/log/dpkg.log |
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| 18:44.34 | rakor | thanks! |
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| 18:44.57 | jhutchins_wk | candidat1: If you're connected via ssh, you'll usually have the local display at :0 and the remote display on ssh at :10 (remote in this case being the machine you ssh FROM). |
| 18:44.59 | candidat1 | jhutchins_wk, root 15257 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 20:30 0:00 [kworker/0:0] |
| 18:44.59 | candidat1 | zark 15431 0.0 0.0 18452 1332 pts/0 R+ 20:40 0:00 ps axu |
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| 18:45.47 | candidat1 | jhutchins_wk, im using x2x to use 1 keyboard and 1 mouse with 2 computers |
| 18:45.59 | candidat1 | do you know any simple solution / program ? |
| 18:46.07 | candidat1 | that would do the same job |
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| 18:46.38 | jhutchins_wk | candidat1: I am not familiar with x2x, but the two lines you posted don't have anything to do with display addresses. |
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| 18:46.58 | candidat1 | jhutchins_wk, okey :) |
| 18:47.09 | jhutchins_wk | candidat1: If you're trying to access a full desktop remotely, you need something like vnc. |
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| 18:47.53 | candidat1 | i want to access the 2 computer desktops with a program like synergy |
| 18:48.04 | jhutchins_wk | candidat1: I would expect the docs for x2x would tell you how you need to manipulate the display. |
| 18:48.43 | candidat1 | jhutchins_wk, thanks i m reading it now |
| 18:49.13 | jhutchins_wk | candidat1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/X2xHowto |
| 18:49.55 | jhutchins_wk | candidat1: If you're not on the same LAN, full desktop sharing is always going to be slow. |
| 18:50.25 | jhutchins_wk | candidat1: An alternative is to launch just the program you need over ssh X forwarding. |
| 18:51.03 | candidat1 | jhutchins_wk, it s on the same LAN, i m lucky enought to have optic fiber 1000 mbits /s |
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| 18:51.06 | candidat1 | :p |
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| 18:51.58 | jhutchins_wk | Gigabit is nice. |
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| 18:53.46 | candidat1 | jhutchins_wk, here in france they are testing 5g which is 25 gbits /s |
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| 18:54.45 | `slikts | too bad most of france still uses dsl lol |
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| 18:57.00 | candidat1 | /home/dubois$ ssh -Xc 192.168.1.22 x2x -east -to :0.0 |
| 18:57.00 | candidat1 | Unknown cipher type '192.168.1.22' |
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| 18:58.11 | candidat1 | yes too bad dsl is slow lol |
| 18:59.18 | EF`` | candidat1, try -XC |
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| 19:03.46 | candidat1 | Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding. |
| 19:03.46 | candidat1 | /usr/bin/xauth: file /home/zark/.Xauthority does not exist |
| 19:03.46 | candidat1 | Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyx2x - error: can not open display localhost:10.0 |
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| 19:06.05 | candidat1 | i have a ubuntu and a debian box |
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| 19:06.16 | EF`` | https://serverfault.com/questions/422908/how-can-i-prevent-the-warning-no-xauth-data-using-fake-authentication-data-for |
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| 19:17.27 | passbel | hi |
| 19:18.29 | candidat1 | EF``,putting : XAuthLocation /opt/X11/bin/xauth in /etc/ssh/ssh_config gives me a readonly error |
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| 19:21.18 | EF`` | candidat1, did you use sudo to open /etc/ssh/ssh_config for writing? |
| 19:21.27 | candidat1 | no |
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| 19:22.16 | EF`` | users do not usually have write access to most files outside of their home. You need to be sudo [or root] to modify |
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| 19:24.12 | candidat1 | EF``, same error :) |
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| 19:26.42 | DALLAS4 | opal calls people niggers no kline or quiet: msev- SirLagz mww113 hele fauweh martinus__ chaology bazhang Tristan-Speccy sbeyer inaki tobiasBora James_T brontosaurusrex smidlers richvdh infinity_ kix NaPs xcm hagabaka l9 Igel TsukiRa cyboman33 cataLyst7 jordanm M3mphiZ x10 mdroid konimex awal1 WoollySocks Cork jnes nikow Linlz jlacroix fearnothing corretico rsx Digz Relicka crash_ xSmurf scoobertron Phibonacci_ Hooloovo0 deetwelve kale |
| 19:26.42 | DALLAS4 | : kchr boxrick stu_meat tsia ongolaBoy hns mcintosh LeandroLuiz APexil SpeccyMan angular_mike___ xon00z Zerant `slikts shingouz pron ruby_ sulvone Puckel_ zarzar JZTech101 NeilHanlon gonyere McLive Kitty RickXy astrofog x42 CtrlC mutante srg___ SerajewelKS dTal jor sandroandrade benaiah Whiskey mdroid metastable martinus__ Marlon cryptic ijmad stealthii Canucktux inaki chipdalf_ miklcct_ nopf dsc_ |
| 19:26.43 | kukuru | : ffernand reu Ani- Whiskey l9 Fastolph christel cnu- michaelni chaology Tsutsukakushi rednul Quantumcross Zerant tensorpudding ToeSnacks TonyL pugfantus hycer gunix KernelJr srg___ MrGeneral shadoxx civillian gby disi nrs_ gigetoo mgdelacroix gatekeep lroe erre seyeongkim doogaille cryptodan_mobile Eryn_1983_FL qman__ stoffepojken martinus__ kchr skney tugrik lionheartActual pk64 Cyclohexane m712 APexil pppktz nadersith |
| 19:26.43 | kukuru | : bezaban olivetree_ Esya Olufunmilayo pseudonymous keith4 pcdummy Furai richardjohn rizzo mrm n0p_ Sue glebihan_ thiras armin RUDE hessu sethkush_ ToBeCloud terr1 pseubodot j3x brian_ sweatsuit gusnan mistralol meminemy__ DoctorD90 deadk Hink komugi madonius PaulePanter r3m donofrio rotaticus romana bazhang sistematico fnmueller somepoortech CyberJacob cryptodan_mobile danwellby vaidy _aeris_ soulz pyllyukko necrose99 |
| 19:26.43 | kukuru | : evotopid AxForest Ad1Tech sweatsuit yeats SupaYoshi_ lifeofguenter mww113 Andocromn cataLyst7 dsnow_ iCherry ineiros preaction passbel bipul nolsen bumbar banging phorce1 volter blue Schmetterwurm jgoohu_ pmn Enrico_Menotti t3eblinder1 thms jsdk zululee ThomasJ|d tonyoy MichaelSasser tomreyn Ring0` Commander1024 lsyoyom mdroid Yaser_Amiri cyboman33 Ruebezahl danwellby dak jordanm Saar Scuttle hassoon borsin ryouma DLange |
| 19:26.43 | Guest89936 | : musti tripkin nwe NeoBlaster JobewanKenobi treegor installibre BeamWatcher ws2k3 tdn hayer trewas zmachine gustavo_ adrenaline mukmuk chen Weeezy Pedr0 Kitty danwellby F14W3D ScottE Mikail Spec Gransy- glebihan nac dsc_ timeless JyZyXEL Ralin3 Henry151 churnd sim590 rrva pseudonymous creat DXR phormulate p0g enkrypt sayo- cataLyst7 DK2 skott at0m tobiasBora Ltem ryan-c |
| 19:26.43 | p4tr|ck`o | : colo-work DoctorD90 Doldge pipeep glebihan_ KernelJr bcd mumixam Guest60048 tugrik pk64 ArchDuke cnu- dubwoc `slikts Hestben cendo be shalok James_T duckydan thiras cipofi Whiskey Nik05 Matthew_ Cipher45 corretico Waggie riddle Relicka spritian tiin57 p8m lparmentier[m] mns msev- qqx bathax xcm chiluk admiral0 nauticalnexus plicease frankie thecliguy Vizva bachler kuchi coincoin169 |
| 19:26.43 | DALLAS4 | opal calls people niggers no kline or quiet: v4s- djz88 PhantomDruid ski7777 DXR nickenchuggets tarzeau MonsterKiller sweatsuit diniwed admiral0 Ring0` koltrast loeken GNU\colossus croddy klaas skott Noskcaj BotaniCar TReK cthuluh Spiffy fiQmob LV-426 ws2k3 inaki orb levifig meLon magnulu jiphex Orbstheorem p0rt __3r1c__ jonvonb gunix Enrico_Menotti vivid mauro25987 gr4yscale Quatroking namix milobit Ericounet K1rk Arieh mww113 lavende |
| 19:26.43 | Guest89936 | : bfit kingsley towo` AxForest TimWolla jareth_ f0x kpease_ edi MichaelSasser thecoffemaker timeless awal1 nebul8 MeltedLux klow brontosaurusrex Orphis Sabaku NeoBlaster MobileMatt sptnx nezZario SWAT ioudas^working PIBER zamba Noskcaj fatalerrors _MMx heinrich5991 cthuluh swordfischer Digz SodaPhish dusares_ Sciuro fred`` HugsWontletgo NoxiousPluK F14W3D Kobaz leochill CEnnis91 systo xon00z TriJetScud candidat1 peterS c0ded |
| 19:26.43 | shewo | : lmcloughlin nac Junaos digdug_ fleaz sdx23 Schmetterwurm Nawab himuraken_ eki DJDan alreece45 jrtc27 dondelelcaro xon00z Henry151 Sue sztelke linuxthefish SM0TVI diqidoq bazhang Kilo`byte coincoin169 ffernand armin XDS2010|AFK v4s- mattgirv gusnan xcin zl33pyr candidat1 tomocha_ Marlon beaver goberle klaas systo hele spacebison SporkWitch d-k treegor Saar J scream a64 deetwelve SleePy |
| 19:26.43 | zllhy | : nadersith gregf funnel deetwelve `ryban simon6758 raidghost drale2k blackest_mamba gunix jhq skott AxForest SirCmpwn jdiez himuraken_ ribasushi hassoon Kitty ggherdov raynold futex MobileMatt Nomads kirkland e1z0 Jamboy xcin stu_meat cthuluh Pwnna neskau bzed phenomcd chaology bobe SupaYoshi_ DLange Ad1Tech dxrt notemerson jnes FinalX swaechter ketralnis luz1 skagerak Arrowma yemel Letze_ |
| 19:26.43 | zllhy | opal tells people to commit suicide nor kline or quiet: genpaku Sciuro supersoju volter baum iodev s7r lukasdboer Acrisor dbristow Guest30004 NeilHanlon christel Ralin3 tabakhase typosaurus aliasnumber13 Namarrgon dsnow_ nathamanath dxrt Nik05 tomreyn spacebison ilmaisin ArchDuke joel135 rolig Xyle rancyd Jim[m] brwoods MyIgel ToBeCloud toozej Devastator enki kunwon1 tarzeau musalbas miklcct_ lmcloughlin gftg Warrigal bathax gatekeep nadersi |
| 19:26.43 | Guest89936 | : Furai vreg Sir_Designer__ Zharf disposable2 sc_ GNU\colossus lotherk vivid tugrik bove sistematico television TuxShells grew simon6758 Willis EF`` thiras banging llimeht High_Priest eir freakyy smlb karstensrage gareth_ botho ckuehl jmyrv toresbe jimi1 kuchi qman__ kirkland elkmoose futex xcm dudz nurupo yCrazyEdd dxrt Arsiesys kini nick123 synthmeat gregf bapa phre4k makz |
| 19:26.43 | Guest89936 | : knx mavhq Amun_Ra gregf N3X15 ectospasm andai grim4593 Ximensi0ns kri dsc_ Epakai Aebian timeless danwellby db` botho Randy skagerak rasb rozie yCrazyEdd Puckel_ phre4k doyle tabris mukmuk Bercik tobiasBora futex dudz paulgrmn likcoras netrace zarzar TmvC hex2a _0bitcount pppktz erre hashworks joze Cyclohexane Red_M greenbagels trewas MoDaX percY- Ellied Riku |
| 19:26.43 | Guest89936 | WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR QUIET OPAL???: ben_roose dave4925 stmiller tadau awhitlock8 Orochimarufan Texou _0bitcount Typhon jannic verm1n Riku toorop sulvone rolig stealthii ckuehl tripkin trewas spacework gluon idmistir err404 pingveno relaxed sekjun9878 Cipher45 guios BeamWatcher `Kevin CEnnis91 Shadowcrit peterandre rednul teclo- spont4e milobit pokeguylow JasonO osx beardo plicease gnupyx cnu- Pedr0 dsc_ el glebihan_ Poster mistralol |
| 19:26.43 | geor | WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR QUIET OPAL???: _aeris_ moss j08nY hikiko Piper-Off ribasushi DXR {sd} p0g0 sukaeto sc_ martinus__ brontosaurusrex lukasdboer verm1n _systemd_is_evil petan xingu pfote drot jssjr popnfresh nrs_ pseudonymous msantana shingouz Nik05 Comstock- avantgardist Guest89936 dinoocch vuser kbelyea sloucher bazhang pawalls raSter^ bureado Ssquidly Hijiri annadane Mad_Hat M0nk3y egos bruce549 mdroid Attoy ariador NeoBlaster tomocha_ |
| 19:26.43 | shewo | opal calls people niggers no kline or quiet: nicdev Firztspawn sinduck hassoon jdiez msev- TimeTraveler Guest60048 Hijiri NeoBlaster [Gunner] Swant situ` overlord_tm levifig Doldge coco benjen kingsley sidmo sunkan bureado Stummi m4rCsi lavenders qqx paradizelost dubwoc jaxson Yaser_Amiri thiras Matthew_ spacework lotherk alkyl Skaag shahri pseubodot karstensrage glebihan yepla SporkWitch pawalls seyeongkim Schmetterwurm heurist phre4k Piper-Off altendky ziongat |
| 19:26.43 | shewo | : PaulePanter royiv freanux grim4593 thms brizz popnfresh apt jsdk darkalia marcoslater Sir_Designer__ XDS2010|AFK ben_roose sinduck planetmaker codebam_ vamiry Tr4sK brolin_empey tyranny12 xSmurf ebarrett eki urzds sloucher mutante shingouz digilink blackwell inaki chipdalf_ sveva65 awhitlock8 moss hexa- CodeBlue1776 def_jam yCrazyEdd Attoy klaas berndj slack_ LucaTM Skaag Typhon p0rt evotopid peterbecich seyeongkim |
| 19:26.43 | shewo | : drale2k DJDan format_c yen0p Bercik Ani- skott luuh sasukeskapa marienz joze rizzo passbel l9 annadane qoreQyaS cryptodan_mobile eldebrim1 nikow qzo fiQmob Namikaze aindilis notemerson danwellby n4dir dym nux Sleepy63 stealthii leochill thoros jhq MoDaX fauweh whiskey9 cbdev kingsley jhebden Jim[m] SkIzZaTo popnfresh mortn jareth_ pawalls jdn_ grinsekatze benaiah Stummi knx |
| 19:26.43 | p4tr|ck`o | opal threatens to mutilate people no kline or quiet: nathamanath mpmc disi tacocat jmsx orb ryouma Cipher45 dxrt cataLyst7 SpeccyMan Ruebezahl p0g0 JZA fourletterword Zyferus Savemech ausbeck fast shalok chiluk rlange Xanthor Hooloovo0 Johann jhutchins Zauberfisch Kamilion dka_ eri451 phorce1 webbyz Dad` karlamrhein colo-work Loomaanaatii adrenaline Bonn333 XDS2010|AFK treegor freakyy sptnx Comstock- flokuehn DLange peterandre BotaniCar p0g Amplificato |
| 19:26.43 | p4tr|ck`o | : Warrigal Blanco jandrusk ilmaisin amd_0x51 e0wl Ring0` ptx0 A|TARIS Alam_Squeeze pron tiwake Jguy Aebian lankanmon turfrex Orbstheorem daemonkeeper EnergyCoffee magyar lan_stuff lord_helmet fast polaris blueness Arieh InFerNo_ srg___ Ruebezahl Peterzen meLon zoolook alxy leibniz dooglus jim pinnen Kitty el ChanServ ripdog conspacer sekjun9878 Zerant levifig notemerson fatalerrors SaltySolomon fauweh jhill |
| 19:26.43 | cipofi | : NeoBlaster futex Nomads Mad_Hat olivetree_ bitgeek thiras her0 boxrick tacocat ^v evotopid diabel_ loeken Yugidude1 otih MyIgel jdiez braingain syamaoka JStoker tonyoy GNU\colossus Levure peteski RickXy WizardGed shewo sweatsuit Zauberfisch CodingWithClass Delf rxo richvdh himuraken_ zupzupper Swant sandeepkr toruvinn Dev0n relaxed xcin le_pig Mathisen s7r pseudonymous Anarchic Toris borsin soulz |
| 19:26.43 | rrgjnxjf | : NoCode baum verm1n Atlas sptnx Uberius Tsutsukakushi phar6oor aaro meti jadesoturi gnugr xSmurf Delf tsglove Orbstheorem l9 srg___ sbeyer rxo Smuckerz Haxxa jlacroix swaechter Poster spont4e klaas BaW Arrowmaster petemc rakor samouy d-fence Keitaro paul3 infinity_ hele Walex phorce1 Rhuarc spanglesontoast hexagoxel ledixus tomreyn SuperSeriousCat Sue yen0p dreamer eir HauM1 |
| 19:26.43 | zllhy | : mort rockstar[x] lparmentier[m] ketralnis bogus- codebam_ bvs KindOne Linlz CowboyNeal tccki jlacroix alxd themill greycat chen kri Atlas pvoigt TonyL DieMoesch edvb Delf thallada or4n spanglesontoast pmn SerajewelKS rkta Janhouse CME leochill Comstock- kward abrotman BotaniCar ksft verboese Mysterytrain neskau xar- sztelke dak skney lifeofguenter CodeBlue1776 dysfigured at0m adi HauM1 |
| 19:26.43 | zllhy | opal calls people niggers no kline or quiet: codingquark TsukiRa nO0b Canucktux cyphix pinnen MonsterKiller avantgardist e1z0 ron-slc Xyle jh001 raSter^ sasukeskapa NeilHanlon FoolishOwl DXR nadersith duracrisis [Gunner] Xjs|moonshine DoctorD90 TacoGS Delf frazr gatekeep j3x zmachine bradjones gr4yscale phenomcd jhq drale2k peteski Gurty ThomasJ|d nux wooden PhonicUK chen Dan_au brian_ petan diytto Ryushin davidebeatrici RobertClarke bcd Dev |
| 19:26.44 | p4tr|ck`o | : johanbr iodev integral shtirlic Keitaro avantgardist tccki vivid Gaxpaxxo tuv stealthii Gransy- Guest32500 Piggy palinuro vreg Amplificator polaris Texou television m712 ChanServ kix benpro rkta Catatronic Hijiri yeats orlandogr ledixus BCMM Savemech _tremo hawken Eryn_1983_FL Cisien moufl genpaku neoclust enki roniez thiras jmyrv Incepti0n Exagone313 meLon hns delYsid eb0t Arieh |
| 19:26.44 | p4tr|ck`o | opal threatens to mutilate people no kline or quiet: McLive |ifei5g00d SolarAquarion bove msev- Almtesh crdil Emmanuel_Chanel raidsec tsglove CME bhuvi___ TuxShells Junaos neoclust PaulePanter vivid b0l3x simonlnu xon00z coincoin169 devurandom jmcnaught Neo sidewalk greenbagels Guest89936 rozie thecliguy k4tfish nickenchuggets AlwaysHigh codebam_ fleaz `slikts elliot007 Janhouse electrostat somepoortech hycer sukaeto Fastolph Typhon soahccc SM0TVI Deif |
| 19:26.44 | manuel77n | opal threatens to mutilate people no kline or quiet: abrotman naos62 RoBz tarzeau semeion nse seyeongkim ioudas^working sulvone shadoxx in1t3r Ltem l9 dbristow AndreasLutro typosaurus Digz benjen earthian komugi Waggie datasmurf_ CrypticSquared LambdaComplex Toris lafleurdubien ozzloy tobias1 devurandom dinoocch leerg319 zerocool cmam domovoy chen bureado Jamboy GDiaX `ryban sirecote Pwnna notemerson SpeccyMan pixdamix JyZyXEL magenbrot Ekho M3mphiZ aar |
| 19:26.44 | kix | : K1rk mindstorm fourletterword ksft aerbax krups alexlist evilbug webuser5224 Vizva oberling blackest_mamba XeonSquared quasi bradjones bhuvi___ thms ebarrett rockstar[x] musti christel tensorpudding yeats grinsekatze Mrloafbot_ roniez Typhon altendky coolchris M3mphiZ Schmantinski Masaomi[m] remote timeless Tr4sK Randy stealintv ghormoon gonyere SporkWitch davidebeatrici eir ross` n0p_ Jim[m] Baudelaire Hooloovo0 devurandom TriJetScud kirkland |
| 19:26.44 | lgmzfbb | opal threatens to mutilate people no kline or quiet: Raed hele metaphysician sphalerite mzf beaky Ticho_ fred`` rpifan dos1 NoxiousPluK Tulah pztrick thalos sulit Savemech Peterzen xand mort `z nku Mmike bapa cyberzeus scapinelli_ gardar pablo_ vook elysium sobkas MACscr hue sophiya brwoods rt sparty TimeTraveler teej zwamkat kchr opi mukmuk SporkWitch mns teraflops Shadowcrit lankanmon koollman olivetree_ damiano |
| 19:26.45 | lgmzfbb | WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR QUIET OPAL???: xcm danwellby amd_0x51 Piper-Off devurandom piklu FiendKing04 uptime jrabe patsToms Gm4n xar- teraflops pingveno SerajewelKS tacocat lsyoyom sandeepkr klaas phogg kini johanbr fstd ToBeCloud georgeowell _0x5eb_ alreece45 ohithere CrypticSquared reu petan Sabaku Nomads sveva65 Arsiesys Bert_2 cryptic Tristan-Speccy thekingofbandit LaunchDirector aedinius ski7777 Lxrowe EnergyCoffee Saar spacework hramrach d |
| 19:26.45 | lgmzfbb | opal calls people niggers no kline or quiet: cmichel gnupyx colo-work cyphix Aristar obiwahn churnd lsyoyom stealthii jh001 Devastator Orochimarufan FoolishOwl lifeofguenter darkstalker Infra_3600 peterrooney nickenchuggets helldorado uxfi BotaniCar notemerson Hobbyboy bodeezl tobias1 croddy mcintosh yokel skza satanist dmarr Snewp chachasmooth_ flyingkiwi AciD` Waggie ForceRecon spritian _systemd_is_evil bcd Aix_ ross` Arsiesys damiano Cisien baba_ Tom-_ Clo |
| 19:26.45 | lgmzfbb | : ziongate msev- ThomasJ Kobaz dijenerate MyIgel stefanc_diff staircrusher Tempesta Comstock- Ugrastil Noskcaj bb36e slicepaperwords sistematico lankanmon somnambler nast ross` {sd} jareth_ coolchris pipeep th0r bigpresh Nazara drot msantana TacoGS sweatsuit bapa towo` scyte milobit h WebDawg Messenger_bird tekk michaelni daemonkeeper Mmike parshimers imMute __3r1c__ kuchi riddle SQL madmattco mf|cloud jmyrv |
| 19:26.45 | lgmzfbb | : dixie7z_ paulgrmn SWAT quasisane sergiotucano pepsipeacecorp Yaser_Amiri Ceber mortn colo-work Arsiesys elios roger_rabbit thunderrd bogus- Orochimarufan fury_ digdilem hanasaki etp james41382 raynold TvL2386 Ralin3 digdug_ sbeyer thnee uxfi qqx thurin Rothgar` bpsecret kj4 candidat1 xsdg bigpresh Bercik Rockj nicdev beuker petitor rdococ spacebison chownsauce Olipro sloucher ski7777 ketralnis Rembo kuchi |
| 19:26.45 | lgmzfbb | : miklcct_ wizzy_ schoppenhauer Hooloovo0 lankanmon jmcnaught fred`` vutral Aix_ jonathaN lparmentier[m] marcoslater eldebrim1 ryouma insidious datasmurf_ hashworks nagy LiENUS rkta BlackPanx DXR ongy nurupo quasisane musca Spitfire sirecote HarveyPwca HaNN1BaL sayo- or4n jhutchins_wk peterandre db` Rothgar` nicoulaj Guest60048 toozej Namidairo f0x platicus2 nshp NickyP mcint dirac1 Louis chachasmooth_ Lxrowe bpsecret |
| 19:26.45 | lgmzfbb | opal calls people niggers no kline or quiet: abracadaniel SleePy internat rysiek|pl Zorroness CapsAdmin jordanm Graypup_ LaunchDirector mns FoolishOwl hns ozzloy television altendky brimonk rt jssjr rkta N3X15 Vector3 metaphysician Zyferus A|TARIS smlb lel s0lar1s CyberJacob dixie7z_ luuh Druid systo PhantomDruid LiENUS reu ckuehl torrezno hanasaki r3m ledixus nac Infra_3600 Sir_Designer__ bb36e cmichel matrix_architect typosaurus mww113 daniel2 JohnDoh |
| 19:26.45 | kix | : NeoBlaster ledeni TmvC bolovanos Benefit sirecote th0r geordie Bryanstein navlys percY- Messenger_bird seyeongkim _rubik yen0p brizz mundus olegfusion kmd LoRez afx237 MobileMatt Nefertiti kB` Gurty Ani- M3mphiZ marens distantorigin pseubodot Ximensi0ns phormulate boxrick karlamrhein Peetz0r cateye me1 kevy0 jhutchins_wk ChmEarl plicease crayon ski wjtaylor_ AFNobody Nitori johanbr ski7777 glebihan ijmad |
| 19:26.45 | kix | WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR QUIET OPAL???: klys Jamboy loeken gftg strass somepoortech Raed zack6849 msev- somnambler Exagone313 Eryn_1983_FL turfrex djz88 IdleGandalf WoollySocks digdilem pztrick glebihan ultralow SerajewelKS olegfusion Junaos Kel pfoo AndrewMC zymurgy JPT trewas christel rasb Sir_Designer sndb tensorpudding High_Priest bradjones kmd Amun_Ra Guest32500 thoros yonder Kitty komugi zmachine ohithere Benefit Hestben FinalX mww113 _0x5eb_ |
| 19:26.45 | *** kick/#debian [lgmzfbb!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.) |
| 19:26.46 | coco | WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR QUIET OPAL???: heurist fred`` BbT0n phantomcircuit gehaxelt xcin Warrigal astrofog idmistir elysium Eryn_1983_FL petan spacebug^ Haxxa CEnnis91 Strife1989 cyphix Cork brizz smidlers aaro Gransy- sasukeskapa Quick_Wango verboese thunderrd zamba dusares_ bapa blacksyke SporkWitch nadersith doyle d-k #debia probono spritian michaelni HauM1 HugsWontletgo hexhaxtron awal1 le_pig solarnetone freanux alprazolam Nawab Trel Dan_au lu |
| 19:26.46 | coco | opal says niggers should leave usa no kline or quiet: MeanEYE SporkWitch BlackPanx gratuxri Attoy holmgren meti eki DJDan Levure F14W3D obiwahn TmvC flipp Cyclohexane p0g SaltySolomon MrHyde tobiw mauro25987 edi BeamWatcher CtrlC L235 xiqy spacedust drale2k rudi_s CodingWithClass d-k p0rt cluelessperson tripkin crayon Cork Furai SupaYoshi_ necrogami Jonwel musti yuastnav chaology vectr0n|cloud petemc Spitfire doogaille gvvg_ Tybor kunwon1 Strife1989 |
| 19:26.46 | coco | : mnuhmnuh MonsterKiller Malinux ThomasJ kpease_ Arsiesys jhebden jareth_ Louis klaas acperkins SkIzZaTo ski7777 Danielss89_ srg___ Randy Ishaq jmnk tabakhase bitgeek slack_ tensorpudding metastable annadane PaulePanter smlb m4rCsi michaelni tonyoy p0g romana obiwahn maik yuastnav klow hobbyquaker Velgor tor hassoon serban scoopex dynek joze Guest32500 Otyg blacksyke marcoslater seyeongkim NaPs Tempesta |
| 19:26.46 | coco | WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR QUIET OPAL???: edwardly dave0x6d Poster SodaPhish gluon redrabbit PIBER solarnetone gnupyx aerbax TmvC nomad_dw SolarAquarion apt levifig cheapie NeoBlaster yen0p Alam_Squeeze oojacoboo Orphis rymax99 soahccc Robby Weeezy necrose99 ggherdov musti neskau thunderrd tarzeau apollojustice Groenleer Chinesium sn0wmonster sulit clickjack hassoon eck snw sussudio tiwake swordfischer vOYtEC hawken boxrick Sir_Designer__ nyuszika7h n |
| 19:26.47 | coco | : sinduck pingveno shingouz civillian Alam_Squeeze _MMx metastable soulz Strife1989 heinrich5991 yeats daniel2 neskau Shadowcrit nux ShaRose shalok Guest76936 BlackPanx nebul8 ThomasJ|d kh4i Vector3 SkIzZaTo deepy pfoo jareth_ Zerant PaulePanter Epakai Ralin3 jrtc27 pinnen msantana ebarch orlandogr klow thiras kInOzAwA Raed flokuehn TvL2386 Chinesium Gabemo Kilo`byte esainane Willis int0x27h Atlas jmyrv |
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| 19:26.57 | chiluk | Fuck you coco |
| 19:27.03 | NoxiousPluK | haha |
| 19:27.04 | candidat1 | all right :) i thought it would be more easy. Do you think you could do something if i gave you a temporary access ? |
| 19:27.06 | candidat1 | lol |
| 19:27.07 | Mmike | chiluk, come on, dave :) |
| 19:27.21 | LaunchDirector | fucking cocko |
| 19:27.25 | himuraken_ | GJ debhelper! |
| 19:27.26 | ioudas^working | who has that kinda time |
| 19:27.28 | candidat1 | he is coco :) |
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| 19:27.30 | RoBz | byeeeeeee |
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| 19:27.31 | ioudas^working | i want that kinda time |
| 19:27.33 | himuraken_ | Blew my freakin screens up |
| 19:27.36 | gftg | oh boy |
| 19:27.40 | `slikts | nobs |
| 19:27.43 | himuraken_ | ioudas^working: no doubt |
| 19:27.46 | redrabbit | what a dick |
| 19:27.49 | NoxiousPluK | ioudas^working: they're bots |
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| 19:27.59 | greycat | Please stop commenting on the spam. You are just creating a second wave of spam. |
| 19:28.01 | NoxiousPluK | its not like it takes much time |
| 19:28.03 | candidat1 | sausages in a bucket :) |
| 19:28.11 | NoxiousPluK | greycat: oh is it a taboo subject now? :P |
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| 19:28.20 | metastable | It's offtopic. |
| 19:28.24 | `slikts | greycat: you just indirectly commented on it as well |
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| 19:28.40 | thecoffemaker | bots everywhere |
| 19:28.48 | LaunchDirector | there could be antispam bots that identify from the first message that a fuckload of people where hilighted and ban them faster |
| 19:28.50 | NoxiousPluK | ah yes I forgot this channel is always on-topic :) ehh, I'll go back to idling |
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| 19:29.13 | nyuszika7h | LaunchDirector: Sigyn is supposed to do that |
| 19:29.17 | stealthii | I use Debian for servers and Raspberry Pis mostly |
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| 19:29.20 | necrose99 | just go +Z for all of fiv mins |
| 19:29.25 | nyuszika7h | but all those messages were sent in the same second |
| 19:29.28 | `slikts | stealthii: don't you mean raspbian? |
| 19:29.42 | sergiotucano | so ... Debian with lxQt is pretty good |
| 19:29.52 | stealthii | That's true, I guess it's a different distribution |
| 19:30.01 | `slikts | no "guess" about it |
| 19:30.03 | necrose99 | slikts you can use 64 bit rpi3 ala debian 9 |
| 19:30.23 | `slikts | necrose99: I didn't know rpis went up to 3 |
| 19:30.29 | `slikts | oh nvm, I have a rpi 3 |
| 19:30.44 | `slikts | so there's an arm debian that can run on it? |
| 19:30.55 | LaunchDirector | nyuszika7h: right but usally network wide antispam would be able to parse first message before accepting to channel, heck you can make the ircd ignore messages entirely that contain too many nicks, just about parsing and matching a bit |
| 19:30.57 | necrose99 | yes i have an rpi3 with gentoo and arm64 debian 9 cards |
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| 19:31.14 | `slikts | interesting |
| 19:31.26 | nyuszika7h | LaunchDirector: freenode staff said they wouldn't do that because it would be too much overhead to parse every message before letting it through |
| 19:31.31 | matrix_architect | who is opal? |
| 19:31.45 | N3X15 | who knows, who cares. |
| 19:31.48 | necrose99 | https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi3 |
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| 19:32.24 | necrose99 | slikts https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi3 |
| 19:32.33 | LaunchDirector | nyuszika7h: you can run an ircd server on a potato from 1980, i doubt its that much overhead, most of the resources that go into an irc network is actually just for securing against DDOS attacks and losing nodes |
| 19:32.35 | N3X15 | half of the time, it's some kid trying to get someone banned |
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| 19:34.07 | candidat1 | those kind of behavior killed the ausnet networks |
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| 19:34.15 | at0m | nyuszika7h: i ran an ircd (though private, friends would ssh in) on raspberry pi 1. to forward 6667/6697 to the WAN would open another can of worms, though. |
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| 19:36.10 | greycat | Did I fuck it up? GRRR... |
| 19:36.19 | aloo_shu | N3X15: 1+ for not forgetting the social causes and (mentally) jumping to solutions by protocol |
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| 19:36.46 | dax | greycat: no, the channel is set +z |
| 19:36.54 | dax | so you can still see messages from +q users |
| 19:36.57 | at0m | `slikts: #raspbian |
| 19:37.30 | greycat | 15:27 greycat> Please stop commenting on the spam. You are just creating a second wave of spam. |
| 19:37.55 | Ruebezahl | Hello what is the Problem |
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| 19:38.45 | aloo_shu | no idea |
| 19:38.45 | N3X15 | #debian-offtopic might be a better venue |
| 19:38.51 | aloo_shu | but the answer is 42 |
| 19:39.03 | aloo_shu | true |
| 19:39.49 | NoxiousPluK | does anyone have suggestions for having a minimal (very bare, would prefer to have ncurses, apt, dpkg (obviously) and ssh client/server) Debian installation in only 256MB? |
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| 19:45.56 | frikinz | NoxiousPluK: When I was doing embedded dev (a long time ago) I've used debootstrap for that. 256MB might be a little tricky once you run apt update and/or a big upgrade |
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| 19:46.17 | frikinz | here says https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch03s04.html.en 60MB. Hum good luck |
| 19:46.24 | NoxiousPluK | heh |
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| 19:46.54 | frikinz | Then you can mount a few partitions like /var in RAM |
| 19:47.16 | NoxiousPluK | A minimal base installation, without the âStandard systemâ task selected, will take 613MB. |
| 19:47.18 | NoxiousPluK | brr |
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| 19:47.36 | NoxiousPluK | I tought about building the environment by hand |
| 19:47.39 | at0m | frikinz: that would put /var/lib/ there, too. which isn't supposed to be volatile. |
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| 19:47.45 | NoxiousPluK | then chrooting into it, making grub build the mbr |
| 19:47.54 | NoxiousPluK | and populate the right system stuff |
| 19:48.01 | at0m | NoxiousPluK: don't select tasks. hand-pick packages. |
| 19:48.01 | frikinz | at0m: yeah well, not all subdirs |
| 19:48.03 | NoxiousPluK | but it seems to be a lot of work, and there isnt much manual on it out there |
| 19:48.21 | NoxiousPluK | at0m: yea the problem is that even without any tasks its still to big with the default installation |
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| 19:48.32 | frikinz | I think I got it under 256MB but needed like 400MB to perform a dist upgrade. well it was 10y ago |
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| 19:48.38 | NoxiousPluK | hmm |
| 19:48.45 | NoxiousPluK | ah well I could avoid dist upgrades alltogether |
| 19:48.55 | NoxiousPluK | I guess |
| 19:48.57 | NoxiousPluK | :D |
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| 19:49.49 | alo | : abrotman Hoosilon_ kward delYsid hank ramshadow yen0p adc apt aaro Cork M0nk3y esaym153 frmus benaiah tobias1 Dr-Shadow hele astrofog _KaszpiR_ bryceml mgdelacroix alxd M3mphiZ zamba kunwon1 L235 Blanco Arrowmaster Archrover chiluk `slikts Lazuruz fiQmob dka_ punto brian_ nathamanath Askr deadk smlb djz88 mistralol Jamboy High_Priest ageis DJDan CeBe BiGBOi gehaxelt |
| 19:49.49 | alo | : sangy m4dh4tt4 zamba cyboman33 quite bove cyphix treegor alchemistswl LoRez bobe remo Nik05 j08nY MobileMatt miklcct_ tadz shingouz Nightmare djz88 skagerak ongy jager Croepha seprob coruja teraflops passbel _0bitcount TuxShells slack_ coolchris Druid Peterzen nickdastain zululee Cork chiluk meLon hiroki dondelelcaro bathax ScottE cthuluh SpeedyG Jonwel Len stealthii diqidoq klys |
| 19:49.49 | zirc0 | opal threatens to mutilate people no kline or quiet: renzhi pelegreno_ rancyd Matthew_ nopf Emmanuel_Chanel blackest_mamba samouy jelly-home bhuvi___ Schmantinski `slikts blueness apteryx Ekho bruce549 sandeepkr NeilHanlon Igel smlb Dr-Shadow thms inspectorcluseau fleaz Kilo`byte Riviera tw gluon joel135 klow MeltedLux Ellied blazeme8 jnes brwoods dka_ Keitaro Hydroxide nwe pppktz Marlon mavhq fyrril lel ineiros jhq sander85 gvvg_ Dan_au AndrewMC |
| 19:49.49 | mugthpp | : nolsen SaltySolomon debsan_ hikiko SpeedyG Lirion d-k e1z0 bfit lru j08nY hsiktas disposable jlacroix Nik05 bigjazzsound clorophormo deepy eri451 enki acperkins jhebden amospalla urzds Posterdati blue bazhang_ tiin57 kmd strass kerrhau nebul8 Gazooo brokencycle yeats IdleGandalf JohnDoh binaryc yepla mirsal ptx0 precise sn0wmonster hex2a wybczu hid3 e0wl eleusis tw Schwarzbaer |
| 19:49.49 | niewias | : gennyex komugi madonius codebam_ lru GGMethos Galihom x-fak diniwed annadane magyar domovoy hycer jimi1 Peterzen vaidy vreg musca kB` hessu Haxxa Levure cybrNaut loeken format_c nikolah Nightmare judd gregf dusares_ Nitori roniez NaPs sphalerite _benklop jelly-home deltam strass datasmurf_ frmus anexit_ Yugidude1 Andocromn velix modlin kchr braingain RyanKnack erre Ad1Tech |
| 19:49.49 | secretage | opal tells people to commit suicide nor kline or quiet: mf|cloud ericnoan mundus eki hassoon ijmad phenomcd Ad1Tech brwoods cryptic jonasbits e0wl strass volter petitor mz` edvb Ard1t ksft #debi sirecote BotaniCar BaW mdroid pseubodot kitt DLange Sciuro pseudonymous JobewanKenobi sveva65 Ticho_ Saar rockstar[x] djdarkside kmh CowboyNeal musti rasb Relicka velix AFNobody bitch msb eldebrim1 rpifan Guest76936 KindOne mountainhigh roguelazer |
| 19:49.49 | niewias | : JStoker APLU zarzar nighty- ksft shahri cryptic pipeep nutron cthuluh thms Dagger _aeris_ hipodilski mirsal Aristide NickyP nyaomi Cisien esaym153 ScottE disposable2 k4tfish Arieh hsiktas Shado hawken bvs SuperSeriousCat gr4yscale israfel michaelni in1t3r brokencycle freanux ykchavan sveva65 dos1 Nitori bluszcz stealintv Nik05 Guest30004 brontosaurusrex jimi1 kingsley Ralin3 jiphex Igel somnambler |
| 19:49.49 | niewias | : AfroThundr scoobertron pppktz mns Nightmare amirite futex mww113 srg___ lazouz abrotman conspacer judd SirLagz neoclust verm1n xcm bove gareth_ samouy Dad` tiwake petan Cipher45 torrezno McLive churnd hayer royiv vutral mountainhigh b0l3x SQL skza naos62 raidghost orb petemc db` bachler diniwed astrofog like2k1 Nevolution2 magnulu TimWolla Tristan-Spec Guest30004 int0x27h twisted` |
| 19:49.49 | gennyex | opal says niggers should leave usa no kline or quiet: botho limbo_ debchange Python1320 zul klaas strass jsdk ben_roose borrougagnou dbristow towo` Randy sim590 zapperoo_ durg sweatsuit hanasaki Ltem leachim6 pingveno APLU Kamilion somiaj holmgren Sabotender Ssquidly fnkr aindilis alreece45 larjona matrix_architect breitenj BotaniCar DoctorD90 adi yeats Apeiron` gusnan Pricey Butt3rfly SWAT styks1987 ledixus n-st p_quarles thnee jannic mibo bodeezl |
| 19:49.49 | secretage | opal threatens to mutilate people no kline or quiet: Amplificator n-st HugsWontletgo kchr koltrast Typhon systo shtirlic metaphysician lafleurdubien Digz rxo fleaz Rembo codebam_ nse Letze_ sphalerite richardjohn brontosaurusrex b4d msev- ghost43 FabTG_ Granis dtux rymax99 lavenders f10 pepsipeacecorp rednul Askr lel christel tripkin gluon chaology Phibonacci_ brolin_empey NoxiousPluK dmarr linuxthefish pinnen gigetoo tobiw profall hycer necrog |
| 19:49.49 | alo | opal tells people to commit suicide nor kline or quiet: Andocromn darkalia kirkland pseubodot vivid leachim6 sn0wmonster Mikail PaulePanter Werring nick123 SpeccyMan Zardoz JobewanKenobi JesseWalling dynek digitalnomad91 coolchris diniwed tp__ _aeris_ raidsec Alina-malina deadk iCherry gareth_ mountainhigh msantana rypervenche Schm JZA ThomasJ cryptic zl33pyr rozie bryceml hassoon teraflops jimi1 Gabemo s0lar1s debhelper grim4593 AciD` Arrowmaster KNERD SerajewelKS |
| 19:49.49 | alo | : chipdalf_ goberle lru lifeofguenter {sd} klow annadane Masaomi[m] baba_ pron gatekeep nshp JesseWalling ben_roose jh001 Emmanuel_Chanel like2k1 Nevolution2 nnyby zamba MonsterKiller High_Priest bogus- dak glebihan_ phre4k spacebug^ Cyclohexane dudz thiras Yaser_Amiri bertbob WizardGed mnuhmnuh infinity_ zwamkat PIBER adds68 spacedust chiluk denken shadoxx Tr4sK FiendKing04 petn-randall afx237 Rhuarc jlacroix nagetier fourletterword |
| 19:49.49 | alo | opal tells people to commit suicide nor kline or quiet: bathax spacebison vectr0n|cloud rudi_s sukaeto kitt Vector3 necrose99 deepy sirecote verm1n chen sistematico Zharf jandrusk Tristan-Speccy nurupo XDS2010|AFK b4d seekr jor dinoocch Ralin3 ghormoon PaulePanter piklu neskau mcint naos62 Swant GDiaX dka_ eri451 meti dsc_ pat33x Guest76936 flokuehn SerajewelKS vivid hikiko phorce1 smlb Weeezy a64 pinnen s0lar1s thms sinduck milobit |
| 19:49.49 | zirc0 | : nO0b Digz x42 Hoosilon_ Quellbrunn keith4 Relicka ggherdov notemerson riddle boxrick thecoffemaker __3r1c__ fred`` LV-426 cusco nchambers kwmiebach exezin sweatsuit Arrowmaster runde like2k1 Dr-Shadow _MMx Andreas33 luz1 tacocat ffernand popnfresh jsleeio Pedr0 maf_p CodeBlue1776 serban jh001 bluszcz m712 s7r scoobertron Fastolph situ` raidghost Emmanuel_Chanel Ruebezahl nux SwedeMike Nothing4You abff dbristow |
| 19:49.49 | mugthpp | : cef Uberius MichaelSasser mattgirv Dr-Shadow lan_stuff sunkan edvb sulvone m4rCsi kyan thallada alprazolam bazhang_ whiskey9 Messenger_bird alxd Adbray Guest30004 Letze_ SerajewelKS nighty-- nurupo TimeTraveler palinuro hexnewbie sasha tensorpudding hex2a rdococ greenbagels qqx AimHere niko bfit olegfusion well_laid_lawn spacework Ugrastil gnugr dusares_ leachim6 Dan_au pipeep teraflops eMaks guerby ebarrett ToeSnacks EF`` |
| 19:49.49 | mugthpp | opal says niggers should leave usa no kline or quiet: jrtc27 err404 Noah0504 nolsen tsglove typosaurus nickle ArchDuke Al_lA vvz timeless ^v creat SleePy Dr_Disk Guest60048 aloo_shu b Nik05 cateye totonika Slumlord_ Shadur Ellied alreece45 trewas remy remote aliasnumber13 Andreas33 leochill sloucher brimonk Red_M jimi1 modlin benf daemonkeeper sukaeto SpeedyG obiwahn High_Priest xayto cnu- ecelis phebus georgeowell l9 nast r0bby |
| 19:49.49 | mugthpp | opal tells people to commit suicide nor kline or quiet: thallada pchamtaczke urzds ptx0 Slumlord_ nighty-- Commander1024 haircode tabakhase CME frazr format_c nbags CrypticSquared canvon_ doyle r3 skza volter diytto sophiya petn-randall Quellbrunn coincoin169 vOYtEC sussudio Acrisor imMute jannic gareth_ Mysterytrain bb36e Cisien mossman beardo sulvone Nazara promach qtch f10 Colti bumbar Sir_Designer hirow kInOzAwA phorce1 Carno nshp cthuluh helldorado |
| 19:49.49 | gennyex | : pfoo cherti alchemistswl peterbecich superkulak k4tfish typosaurus meti kwmiebach StephenS Amplificator Pugabyte ausbeck leibniz SwK d-fence azarus Cueball Xanthor botho turfrex brontosaurusrex Shadur tyler-baker mrtnt coruja denken scyte Aix_ tremon Olipro semeion rsx CurryWurst MrHyde kevy0 Weeezy Mmike fatalis Snewp stu_meat TmvC Johann zul BotaniCar hramrach Namidairo vaidy armin somiaj |
| 19:49.49 | secretage | : bier corretico b pugfantus CHRiSNEW creat s7r BaW duckydan yemel GNU\colossus sunkan osx wooden AimHere zamba Masaomi[m] Igel melvin JuPaname scoobertron l9 Dagger phorce1 Frikilinux patsToms ToeSnacks domovoy lstanley rpifan alxy Scuttle tabakhase sIRwa2 Pwnna dooglus joel135 Len Linlz installibre ykchavan Scotteh notemerson bradjones luz1 Swant James_T f3bruary thms ausbeck |
| 19:49.49 | secretage | WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR QUIET OPAL???: strass lazouz Dan_au georgeowell haircode duoi geir_ sasukeskapa Igel treegor nikolah Pedr0 FoolishOwl cryptic RobertClarke l9 yCrazyEdd aindilis vincent_c nshp eldritch SolarAquarion simbalion chen Jguy Ltem jlacroix sobkas Gazooo Downer Warrigal valerius nnyby hessu jandrusk marcoslater ArchDuke Gransy- evotopid nikow tensorpudding bathax ice popnfresh nickle raSter^ DJDan zerocool Chinesi |
| 19:49.49 | secretage | WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR QUIET OPAL???: luuh verm1n skza Swant cvr smlx Dev0n like2k1 JZTech101 nux renzhi semeion Snakes erre Ericounet solarnetone Smuckerz daemonkeeper damiano plicease cheapie Linlz FabTG_ hns dpkg GNU\colossus ArchDuke mz` flipp pfoo bryceml georgeowell cyphix simbalion ijmad jsdk Jonwel pron Danilij NoCode MrAlexandr0 _MMx lungaro j3x neechan n-st r0bby stoffepojken Artox diytto |
| 19:49.49 | mugthpp | : kanzure banging bcd JohnDoh j3x p_quarles masber richvdh bzed konimex jssjr {sd} Noah0504 CrypticSquared duckydan woky eck lionheartActual fyrril Nomads cryptodan_mobile flokuehn kriskropd BotaniCar secretage bhuvi___ Digz ^v dax soahccc nutron profall teclo- tablebanger pierrot Xyle erre percY- hessu graingert Aristide jonvonb mvaenskae t3eblinder1 malm n0nada rakor err404 jor fatalerrors |
| 19:49.49 | mugthpp | : csh-harmful Ceber pyllyukko masber ohithere gehaxelt grinsekatze CodingWithClass croddy b Rothgar` ariador orlandogr NoCode p0rt ghormoon Andocromn SM0TVI djz88 donofrio DarkDevil lan_stuff Cork kward martybr towo^work noodle k4tfish yepla TheNerdisRight Tsutsukakushi Aebian [red]claw jak2000 Keitaro Mrloafbot_ profall thalos BlackPanx bradjones _0bitcount cusco boser sangy chen cmichel nadersith RT_FM Cueball Arieh |
| 19:49.49 | gennyex | opal says niggers should leave usa no kline or quiet: b sveva65 s0ph0s sparty supersoju toruvinn azarus tomocha_ Fjorgynn wingman2 Bert_2 ledeni Esya velix flyingkiwi insidious prasket noahfx Cipher45 bitch Catatronic masber nickdastain vectr0n|cloud WebDawg msantana thurin SirCmpwn bpsecret dexta elik KNERD bodeezl romana madonius AciD` beaky Cosmophile Quatroking mattgirv rxo MicroCheapFx__ Hoosilon_ bhuvi___ rudi_s GTAXL banc stealintv like2k1 pawalls |
| 19:49.49 | gennyex | : t0ne tuv joel135 atomi BlackPanx platicus2 oberste1n fax ezra-s sekjun9878 schoppenhauer vutral armin rpifan polaris eir ShaRose Jguy petemc mdorenka uptime vincent_c volodim fleaz celyr Hink HaNN1BaL Pelle` hramrach Orochimarufan semeion rrva Messenger_bird maxdml Danilij Tom01 theluckymike sef Namarrgon catsup BlueByte sIR Tempesta RichiH dax phantomcircuit Sir_Designer phorce1 ejsf prasket |
| 19:49.49 | gennyex | opal tells people to commit suicide nor kline or quiet: internot toresbe nopf magenbrot yeats nadley [Brain] Guest76936 jonathaN Ool BlackPanx tdn StathisA cbmuser nhandler apt nyuszika7h ezra-s cbdev Psy-Q tekmo Cavedude michael_mbp RT_FM Adbray wjtaylor_ rotaticus AndrewMC Junaos Churr0z tacocat sIR cyberzeus ChrisH annadane promach peterS GTAXL banc yemel mukmuk Posterdati przemoc nchambers jonasbits banging koollman UUID00 scyte EmleyMoor |
| 19:49.50 | mugthpp | opal says niggers should leave usa no kline or quiet: likcoras Posterdati ffernand promach suffer nast BlueByte coincoin169 gnugr Enrico_Menotti Gransy- Acrisor riddle Werring lan_stuff Se-bash nickle AlexZ_ alo ArlequInOut tap toresbe tobiw mindstorm rudi_s nighty-- ecelis Gm4n slack_ Furai WebDawg rysiek|pl mww113 shingouz haircode Xyle edwardly sine0 sidmo kInOzAwA hexa- aedinius rolig homegrown johanbr daemonkeeper James_T mort alreece45 tomreyn |
| 19:49.50 | zirc0 | : TvL2386 GTAXL smlx moss grumble int0x27h Namarrgon larjona dos1 maxzor Pedr0 simon_q sy remote n0p_ MicroCheapFx__ duckydan mf|cloud adi Dagger aliasnumber13 Delf thiagoss APexil Len Ard1t quasisane spacebug^ rednul ice nodauf egos ChanServ Kobaz vincent_c Spr1ng Rembo Commande SolarAquarion Masaomi[m] Kilo`byte ozzloy nnyby ArchDuke Epakai {sd} ws2k3 disi marcoslater ebarch |
| 19:49.50 | zirc0 | opal threatens to mutilate people no kline or quiet: systo haircode yokel cyboman33 rotaticus Eryn_1983_FL Croepha b0l3x xcin nomad_dw Aristide GroovyNoodle bhuvi___ Zardoz kitt miklcct_ Kitty Spr1ng wooden nathamanath klaas skney dooglus pipeep kuchi sulit Immanuel Piper-Off piklu nickle datasmurf_ Len Pricey verboese pseubodot Gazooo SleePy pmn skza pentiumone133 oojacoboo BrainDommage orlandogr lungaro rednul nopf Ugrastil `ryban vvz raidghost |
| 19:49.50 | gennyex | opal tells people to commit suicide nor kline or quiet: madonius sielicki scoopex ecelis candidat1 Granis iViLe duoi teclo- Sabotender luz1 jadesoturi HaNN1BaL th0r guideline hirow Speed2u chachasmooth_ thurin Esya ffernand uxfi relaxed JZTech101 Schmetterwurm sveva65 DarkDevil satanist Dagger LaunchDirector t3eblinder1 elik przemoc Ssquidly ^v Arieh cooldude `z botho Ekchuan leochill blackest_mamba kmh Hobbyboy Galihom RT_FM sandeepkr NoCode TMan459 spooky |
| 19:49.50 | gennyex | opal calls people niggers no kline or quiet: Spiffy _0bitcount valdyn hasdf MrAlexandr0 brouette ceptor klaas eir bolt zul navlys ThoMe imMute mrtnt RichiH RyanKnack digilink yuastnav ongy Xanthor ecelis Sleepy63 scyte helldorado jmcnaught b0xii thekingofbandit Al_lA ruby_ petn-randall woky deepy Noah0504 Roedy digitalnomad91 Delta-One baba_ candidat1 chrissl alexbligh1 davide GroovyNoodle toruvinn JimmySteve Zorroness Johann `z Guest30004 jonvonb |
| 19:49.50 | zirc0 | : yeats Comstock- deetwelve brokencycle sergiotucano crdil b cooldude freakyy Waggie tapout sptnx Nekojimi situ` eMaks gusnan beardo edvb urzds NaPs mirsal Skaag profall a64 enki jannic yen0p coolchris tripkin spont4e jhill rymax99 kingsley Atlas Namarrgon alo ketralnis Zerant HauM1 lan_stuff hiyosi amospalla lel Tom01 James_T n0p_ JStoker dubwoc qqx gennyex |
| 19:49.50 | sbir | opal threatens to mutilate people no kline or quiet: ArlequInOut fatalerrors SkIzZaTo Nefertiti lappet BaW deadk Downer sparty datasmurf_ knx eldebrim1 klys lkolstad musca totonika SolarAquarion Rubin supersoju JobewanKenobi Letze_ cyboman33 lotherk rafalcpp_ benjen kwmiebach Nitori lru le_pig jhill promach qman__ ChmEarl rymax99 peterbecich A|TARIS limbo_ Spec joze Cueball Schmetterwurm Vector3 ski7777 trewas CtrlC Digz TuxShells mastensg binary106 dmtd |
| 19:49.50 | sbir | : styks1987 pingveno polaris nicoulaj clickjack RT_FM heurist rysiek|pl Randy davidebeatrici Anarchic breitenj _systemd_is_evil serban bionix coolchris nickenchuggets neskau mundus paul3 nrs_ sinduck HarveyPwca JelmerD soahccc Waggie r00tobo tomocha_ sandeepkr MrDetonia Orphis Xjs|moonshine rdococ Guest76936 spritian sielicki Rhuarc Levure Aix_ FoolishOwl stealintv jaxson lappet bfit pztrick daemonkeeper tvm gustavo_ FinalX leerg319 |
| 19:49.50 | secretage | : hiroki glebihan enkrypt Ad1Tech Sue Emmanuel_Chanel bathax Zerant sussudio MobileMatt Voldenet strass Archrover JStoker Ring0` CHRiSNEW jdiez mz` thallada Letze_ Haudegen CowboyNeal or4n Uberius pvoigt lmcloughlin ioudas^working Ruebezahl nickle stoffepojken _benklop |ifei5g00d cateye bipolar JelmerD guardian F PhonicUK cusco Exagone313 andai jelly-home d-k Guest30004 helldorado freakyy hesperaux__ TuxShells Devastator profall |
| 19:49.50 | secretage | : codingquark pyllyukko otih iter tobiw lmcloughlin nux Gransy- lru Nawab her0 zapperoo_ ckuehl qqx SpeccyMan pfote syamaoka zupzupper ZetFury hayer ToBeCloud zmachine lel Saar Mathisen kj4 cthuluh luz1 MobileMatt lavenders ff ChunkzZ RyanKnack Posterdati Guest76936 Snewp Delf mibo Stummi Incepti0n Noskcaj lstanley crayon Hobby_boy vreg keith4 dtux Digz ziongate sveva65 |
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| 19:50.20 | NoxiousPluK | right now I'm trying to run Alpine linux on it, but having a hard time to get it stable |
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| 19:50.35 | NoxiousPluK | the docs for manual install are VERY outdated |
| 19:50.49 | Spr1ng | whats the point of these guys spamming our names in a channel, what is the effect? |
| 19:50.58 | matrix_architect | muthhp is abousing me |
| 19:51.03 | greycat | Please DO NOT comment on the spam. Take it to #debian-offtopic instead. |
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| 19:52.00 | milobit | re |
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| 19:53.20 | Ruebezahl | What's the matter, why am I listed? |
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| 19:53.52 | at0m | cos someone got bored. move on :) |
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| 19:54.04 | GoKC | : EnergyCoffee Almtesh _systemd_is_evil skott dka_ _rubik neoclust gnugr beardo Vizva marienz geordie d00bster GrimKriegor zamba conspacer strass RH_IO Ishaq sphalerite anonnumberanon Sleepy63 hawken dax JimmySteve sptnx riddle K1rk yonder Peterzen thalos hns sjk __3r1c__ oberste1n doyle t0ne disi Catatronic p_quarles nagy SodaPhish lan_stuff Askr brian_ Spitfire fstd StathisA cyberze Ekho |
| 19:54.04 | pajo | opal tells people to commit suicide nor kline or quiet: tablebanger chrissl funnel sweatsuit dirac1 meminemy__ gregf danieli Rhuarc zwamkat bhuvi___ ijmad exezin Nekojimi db` lchlan b TvL2386 konimex Nightmare ThoMe d1b Otyg skney mnuhmnuh rkta AlexZ_ UUID00 Noskcaj fatalerrors bigjazzsound Hink CapsAdmin mundus XSoul banc Spr1ng p0g KNERD in1t3r Cosmophile Eryn_1983_FL Croepha dmkeast_ zack6849 Scuttle lsv mindstorm el datasmurf_ |
| 19:54.04 | GoKC | : soahccc inaki SuperTramp83 enkrypt apteryx bathax polaris Alam_Squeeze Junaos Peterzen mcint skagerak Arsiesys dka_ whiskey9 naos62 altendky jmnk disposable2 Baudelaire jhill PhantomDruid mumixam kuchi nickenchuggets xcm nchambers staircrusher zamba zapperoo_ tw pingveno clickjack f10 tremolo Orbstheorem evilman_work celyr nadersith pron RUDE wtalleghany jareth_ meLon _benklop Typhon Zardoz PaulePanter Amun_Ra s0lar1s |
| 19:54.04 | p4l3t | opal says niggers should leave usa no kline or quiet: flipp ptx0 donut_ xar- aloo_shu jmyrv s0lar1s akxwi-dave kini lbatalha darkalia e-Jim[Bouncer-te SaltySolomon dsnow_ Walex hexagoxel funnel msb eir maxdml peteski mukmuk roger_rabbit Jonwel plicease webbyz bertbob jim seprob wooden probono xcm HauM1 jsleeio Ard1t azarus kwmiebach satanist Waggie Infra_3600 Alina-malina brian_ adc jsdk eri451 croddy krzych Speed2u BlackPanx l9 |
| 19:54.04 | ]]]]]] | : banc ski leibniz kerrhau tolecnal Apeiron` Infra_3600 abra0 quite bumbar ChanServ Bryanstein devurandom Nefertiti rakor askz preaction dselect th0r WARBIRD199 ariador CeBe HarveyPwca corretico tyler-baker satbyy larjona pyllyukko sim590 vutral fooctrl Peterzen peterandre integral etp earthian phenomcd kmh admiral0 Henry151 TonyL inspectorcluseau nezZario daemonkeeper HeXiLeD wonderworld plicease Nightmare deepy Attoy |
| 19:54.04 | GoKC | opal threatens to mutilate people no kline or quiet: genpaku phinxy gr4yscale phenomcd digdilem meti klow tsurko matthiaskrgr Uberius Granis Schmantinski eck notemerson tekk phormulate gvvg_ jesopo Ericounet sekjun9878 Soliton osx Dj_Dexter lionheartActual TvL2386 max-m meLon Haudegen tuv Sciuro Groenleer chrissl mrm Natrick Kamilion JuPaname beardy AndreasLutro reu Pelle` LightAmaze kimico goberle ziongate magyar JZA kini mossman sdx23 hes |
| 19:54.04 | GoKC | : ffernand urzds Werring rOss^64 Johann tobiasBora zoolook GNU\colossus jsdk berndj pepsipeacecorp kingsley remy Guest32500 Comnenus sandman13 lexruee preaction leochill mrm turfrex dTal paulg przemoc gmh pseudonymous stealthii Ugrastil Colti pmn toresbe spacedust JohnDoh scream sander85 nopf Trellmor Tristan-Speccy Riku peteski CeBe starsparrow hexagoxel sobkas rant yemel Incepti0n Arkaniad crayon Arrowmaster |
| 19:54.04 | GoKC | : notemerson Obi-Wan e1z0 pfoo komugi wjtaylor_ AxForest qzo mgdelacroix askz overlord_tm jannic mz` [red]claw tadau relaxed benpro ChunkzZ orlandogr anonnumberanon jgoohu_ jmyrv preaction bfit lan_stuff nwe __3r1c__ bapa mete ribasushi mutante dtux Weeezy Mysterytrain jordanm Mathisen lstanley wingman2 TMan459 b0l3x Roedy apt slax0r max-m quite urzds banging ghost43 Spr1ng juhop |
| 19:54.04 | awkn | opal tells people to commit suicide nor kline or quiet: Al_lA UUID00 teclo- datasmurf_ anonnumberanon Dj_Dexter Uberius digdilem ski mxh- wybczu dexta distantorigin p_quarles Swant suffer xcin urzds exezin N3X15 Nefertiti Speed2u tobiw styles r00ter Archrover Colti zarzar rant precise blackest_mamba edi hikiko Marlon towo` Comstock- dax LucaTM cef tripkin tdn xar- ArlequInOut likcoras alxd chrissl clorophormo FoolishOwl richvdh g |
| 19:54.04 | GoKC | : tugrik Spydar007 Sue Kel x10 supersoju SwK Arsiesys woky tyranny12 Tom-_ orlandogr valdyn crash_ mutante jmcnaught Skaag dka_ bazhang_ Fastolph DXR glebihan_ [Echelon] turfrex ultralow sheedy MrGeneral blingrang xcm nulleip leerg319 nopf nicdev Rubin rkta icxcnika Groenleer jsdk sukaeto SerajewelKS azizLIGHT thalos m4dh4tt4 glebihan w0bni brontosaurusrex abrotman Canucktux oberling nikow |
| 19:54.04 | GoKC | opal tells people to commit suicide nor kline or quiet: rooty_ roniez abra0 sergiotucano rypervenche coruja fred`` ongy AxForest GrimKriegor mistralol bluszcz ptx0 enki RUDE mda1 j3x internat Gazooo eck SmearedBeard satanist toozej pfoo GGMethos lparmentier[m] icxcnika teraflops cbmuser jelly-home davidebeatrici probono jager nikolah Mikail Artox Cabanossi scream llimeht leochill RobertClarke pingveno Delta-One Kitty berndj profall vOYtEC h |
| 19:54.04 | p4l3t | opal threatens to mutilate people no kline or quiet: jonasbits therock247uk aloo_shu evilman_work nagy ArchDuke dselect Aix_ debsan_ JesseWalling vista enkrypt llucenic toresbe thecliguy ongolaBoy fatalis metaphysician l9 oojacoboo noahfx abff terr1 TonyL swaechter raynold Arieh hid3 TheNerdisRight sveva65 err404 xSm peteski samtunez feodaron luuh phar6oor Andreas33 thunderrd musalbas f0x rt jim tonyoy Ralin3 whiskey9 XeonSquared Deific jrabe sekjun9878 |
| 19:54.05 | p4l3t | WHY ARE THE IRC OPS SCARED TO KLINE OR QUIET OPAL???: chalcedony binaryc Cueball Hestben le_pig Emmanuel_Chanel rrva f0x ongy probono dysfigured m4dh4tt4 Churr0z uxfi Ssquidly richardjohn dmkeast_ SpeedyG thnee dondelelcaro Roedy fatalerrors israfel xar- Galihom lexruee mortn Spiffy pchamtaczke konimex Piper-Off TriJe Puckel_ SwK Tom01 bumbar skney Sue kri benf snkcld TmvC Gabemo StephenS gratuxri ruslan_m BaW Junaos infinity_ aaro |
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| 19:54.05 | p4l3t | opal threatens to mutilate people no kline or quiet: awhitlock8 dbristow her0 M0nk3y internot installibre amirite rotaticus dTal nolsen anexit_ Kulrak whiskey9 baum knx eck gusnan fooctrl Canucktux nshp x42 rt kri djz88 digitalnomad91 e0wl SaltySolomon FoolishOwl guios Bercik sulit lbatalha seprob fyrril cyphix daniel2 haircode krzych thinkpad Zorroness cyberzeus Hink vegenaise Peetz0r Nnavd cbdev alkyl percY- shahri hank |
| 19:54.05 | p4l3t | opal calls people niggers no kline or quiet: Cisien mdorenka fax Arkaniad Olufunmilayo vreg MicroCheapFx__ kB` Peterzen GDiaX lsv cryptic cyboman33 Soliton strive pfoo holmgren bcd Shadur ArchDuke leibniz sweatsuit rkta chalcedony nhandler brian_ Phibonac Ruebezahl timeless Pichet_ sorin-mihai quasisane mww113 netrace lungaro ecelis blacksyke somnambler pk64 magnulu nighty-- nomad_dw scapinelli_ sistematico bhuvi___ sine0 jim rlange baba_ mcintosh |
| 19:54.05 | p4l3t | opal threatens to mutilate people no kline or quiet: rant jim terr1 necrose99 qqx Bert_2 Soliton dax apollojustice eir Galihom richardjohn cyboman33 dubwoc jmyrv cvr Deific Peterzen CodeBlue1776 bipolar ZetFury FoolishOwl nagy Hydroxide flyingkiwi quasisane DK2 cybrNaut heurist sdx23 xcm trench JasonO relaxed fyrril _MMx PhantomDruid beuker abff ToeSnacks bionix sparty Gurty Pelle` ectospasm Jdbye guerby TmvC Tybor samtunez |
| 19:54.05 | tuni | : `slikts SerajewelKS iskatu her0 Roedy raynold nchambers ykchavan jrabe nighty-- DJDa kriskropd Trel chiluk fyrril gareth_ evotopid hirow ThomasJ mumixam p_quarles sander85 Fusl xet7 Spitfire Ralin3 jlacroix swaechter remo hexhaxtron GhostInTheShell ericnoan greenbagels dax p0g0 shalok latez James_T wonderworld chalced Xjs|moonshine dave4925 strass satanist CtrlC candidat1 tiwake MrGeneral TheNerdisRight Clouder |
| 19:54.05 | tuni | : SpeccyMan FoolishOwl bolt damiano tp__ Blanco Ishaq hayer iCherry clickjack MoDaX zapperoo_ andai dka_ thecoffemaker Roedy d1b Acrisor petitor probono Bercik interd0me Ani- distantorigin smlx evilbug debhelper dijenerate Danilij somnambler Johann dpkg Churr0z Spiffy BrainDommage daniel2 Pedr0 fax davidebeatrici L paradizelost arha luuh royiv f10 sta fred`` styks1987 toorop netzach |
| 19:54.05 | tuni | : tadz milobit Amun_Ra gluon KNERD Ani- cluelessperson luckman212 miklcct_ darkalia altendky marens gareth__ Werring maf_p Orbstheorem beuker BroTroxer ron-slc cnu- GNU\colossus digilink infinity_ Vorpal jgoohu_ Johann amirite djz88 davidebeatrici msb Willis FiendKing04 Zauberfisch sangy Peetz0r grinsekatze mete Chex Gurty rednul Mad_Hat ShaRose vOYtEC fnkr astrofog AfroThundr skagerak dTal mountainhigh duckydan |
| 19:54.05 | tuni | : tremon Pichet_ sc_ situ` xar- dijenerate cybrNaut hassoon michaelni aaro Spitfire [Brain] SkIzZaTo Nik05 internat Colti gehaxelt sef lukasdboer Andreas33 mete zymurgy StephenS kirkland benjen Arkaniad gnugr Shahnaz thnee bove joze coolchris nbags tonyoy skney lifeofguenter amd_0x51 shadoxx mundus brontosaurusrex sim590 Raed Hooloovo0 TvL2386 Jonwel mzf scapinelli_ int0x27h nkuttler toruvinn |
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| 19:54.34 | CapsAdmin | this has been going on for a while now hasn't it? lol |
| 19:54.42 | greycat | Please DO NOT comment on the spam. Take it to #debian-offtopic instead. |
| 19:54.46 | necrose99 | p4l3t go chew on a block of pure NA |
| 19:54.57 | CapsAdmin | isn't it possible to not allow mentioning more than 3 users at the time or something |
| 19:55.05 | CapsAdmin | or at least get freenode to do this |
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| 19:55.15 | exezin | wow, lol |
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| 19:55.22 | danieli | ugh |
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| 19:55.34 | nchambers | CapsAdmin: its possible, but for reasons not done |
| 19:55.40 | Dagger | ...#debian is offtopic for #debian? |
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| 19:55.49 | exezin | someone is cranky |
| 19:55.51 | nkuttler | CapsAdmin: #sapmmers are |
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| 19:56.03 | NoxiousPluK | Dagger: there is a #debian-offtopic channel ;) |
| 19:56.16 | in1t3r | Kline those spammers |
| 19:56.25 | passbel | WHATS WITH ALL THIS SPAM?? |
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| 19:56.55 | elios | ^ |
| 19:56.57 | necrose99 | yes i've set my own bot up on my channel for build spam... but anyone else has to be registered |
| 19:57.19 | luxpir | I'm stuck with fstab/perms - created a 500GB partition, moved some files over from the OS partition, then created a zulucrypt file (had to sudo) and now neither terminal nor thunar lets me see the files I moved over initially |
| 19:57.33 | luxpir | except i have a term open from before I started, and that lets me see them |
| 19:57.46 | luxpir | have tried to chown and chmod the ext4 partition mount |
| 19:57.52 | luxpir | no avail |
| 19:58.04 | luxpir | (user:user for chown and 755 for chmod, both -R) |
| 19:58.52 | ioudas^working | whats df say luxpir |
| 19:58.57 | ioudas^working | or mount |
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| 19:59.34 | luxpir | mount says: /dev/sda2 on /media/sda2 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,data=ordered,user=luxpir) |
| 19:59.37 | tremon | I'd try df . from the term where you can still see the file |
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| 20:00.15 | luxpir | df and mount say same in both old and new terms... |
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| 20:02.07 | tremon | well if you can still see the files from one terminal, copy them back and start over |
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| 20:02.13 | luxpir | actually df . says it's on the OS partition in the old term |
| 20:02.21 | tremon | yup, that makes sense |
| 20:02.24 | luxpir | tremon: good shout. |
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| 20:02.35 | tremon | you copied the files before the mount was complete |
| 20:02.48 | coincoin169 | Hi, is there any documentation on how to build a netboot.tar.gz with a custom kernel? |
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| 20:03.13 | luxpir | tremon: crap - just cd .. up a level and lost access |
| 20:03.20 | luxpir | b/c there were more files to copy above |
| 20:03.23 | tremon | mount --bind / /mnt |
| 20:03.43 | tremon | then you can access your old (shadowed) files under /mnt/media/sda2 |
| 20:03.48 | luxpir | what does the bind do? |
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| 20:04.19 | tremon | it makes your / filesystem accessible on /mnt too |
| 20:04.45 | tremon | but then without all the mountpoints that are mounted in various places |
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| 20:05.29 | luxpir | tremon: oh yeah, that's cool. I do NOT grok this. so to unbind, is that a one-liner too? |
| 20:05.37 | tremon | just umount /mnt :) |
| 20:06.03 | tremon | that will only remove the bind mount, it will not unmount your / filesystem |
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| 20:06.32 | DammitJim | is there such a command or similar for doing a remount of a samba share? |
| 20:06.44 | DammitJim | (I updated fstab and need to have the new settings take effect) |
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| 20:06.51 | luxpir | tremon \o/ all hail |
| 20:06.56 | greycat | DammitJim: umount and mount? |
| 20:07.04 | DammitJim | no problem |
| 20:07.06 | DammitJim | I was being lazy |
| 20:07.29 | frikinz | --remount ? |
| 20:07.39 | DammitJim | I was going to have to type: mount /mnt/test_mount && umount /mnt/test_mount |
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| 20:07.55 | greycat | other way around |
| 20:08.05 | DammitJim | yes, sir |
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| 20:08.35 | DammitJim | frikinz, I was confused with the man page for mount --remount |
| 20:08.46 | DammitJim | mount flags means different user and such? |
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| 20:10.53 | tremon | not all options can be specified during -o remount. it depends on the filesystem iiuc |
| 20:12.22 | tremon | I only use it to change mount options like dev/nodev, ro/rw or size= for tmpfs |
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| 20:12.40 | greycat | I've only ever used it for rw/ro |
| 20:12.58 | tremon | it would surprise me if you could actually change credentials on a remote fs during a remount |
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| 20:13.21 | DammitJim | no, sorry... change credentials to use the share |
| 20:13.25 | greycat | Me too. Then again, I am surprised anyone would actually use a CIFS/SMB mount in fstab. |
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| 20:13.54 | DammitJim | actually, that's a good point |
| 20:14.15 | DammitJim | what the heck? we should have changed these shares |
| 20:14.45 | DammitJim | NFS? |
| 20:15.02 | greycat | would be the obvious choice, yes |
| 20:15.11 | DammitJim | man, so much to learn |
| 20:15.24 | DammitJim | I've read about NFS, but never considered using it in our environment |
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| 20:15.57 | frikinz | yes the man page of mount says some options can't be changed during remount and gives as example fatfs but I guess there are others |
| 20:16.48 | hassoon | how to know the name of command that a package provides? |
| 20:17.01 | frikinz | greycat: I do, my "NAS" only provides cifs, even if it runs linux and they're ignoring requests to add nfs... |
| 20:17.02 | greycat | if the package is installed, dpkg -L pkgname |
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| 20:17.06 | greycat | possibly | grep bin/ |
| 20:17.08 | hassoon | i forgot the command name of sublime-text package |
| 20:17.09 | somiaj | hassoon: dpkg -L packagename lists all files installed by the package. |
| 20:17.23 | hassoon | somiaj: ah okey thanks |
| 20:17.42 | hassoon | somiaj: i was messing with dpkg -l|grep sublime :v |
| 20:17.53 | greycat | dpkg -L sublime-text | grep bin/ |
| 20:17.53 | dpkg | ii sublime-text | grep bin/ 3.5-12 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 20:18.56 | hassoon | it's /usr/bin/subl |
| 20:19.54 | candidat1 | apt-get install oldfriends |
| 20:20.48 | somiaj | hassoon: -l lists packages, -L lists package contents. |
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| 20:21.00 | hassoon | somiaj: interesting |
| 20:21.20 | somiaj | hassoon: dpkg --help, or the man page can be helpful to rember what different flags do |
| 20:21.33 | hassoon | somiaj: yeah true |
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| 20:21.44 | somiaj | luckly things are mostly self documented on linux. |
| 20:22.04 | hassoon | yeah what i like in gnu/linux is the documentation offered everywhere |
| 20:22.12 | candidat1 | but it s still difficult to understand for the beginners |
| 20:22.51 | frikinz | try msdn for the same level of tasks and cry |
| 20:23.03 | frikinz | imo... |
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| 20:25.41 | hassoon | candidat1: nah not at all |
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| 20:36.43 | ForceRecon | hexchat is really suckin.. |
| 20:36.57 | ForceRecon | I am getting acks stating there is something going on and when I open it.. nothin |
| 20:37.29 | bryceml | I use weechat with glowingbear.org. By far the best I've found so far. |
| 20:38.03 | nchambers | ForceRecon: what issues are you seeing with it? |
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| 20:38.13 | nchambers | there is #hexchat, and the devs are really responsive in there |
| 20:38.15 | ForceRecon | I used to use polari.. I really liked it.. I decided to go with default debian installation program.. |
| 20:38.27 | ForceRecon | its blinking but there is nothing for me to see |
| 20:38.39 | ForceRecon | I checked every channel |
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| 20:38.46 | nchambers | what about your network tab? |
| 20:38.54 | Vizva | there are bots calling names |
| 20:39.01 | nchambers | ^ |
| 20:39.21 | ForceRecon | seriously.. I have my name colored and there is nothing |
| 20:39.37 | nchambers | ForceRecon: for #debian? it was getting spammed earlier |
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| 20:39.45 | Vizva | sometimes theyre flooding channels with all usernames of it |
| 20:40.14 | ForceRecon | I scrolled.. nothing.. |
| 20:40.20 | Vizva | can be another thing |
| 20:40.20 | ForceRecon | ehh... whatever.. :) |
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| 21:01.14 | jak2000 | hi all |
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| 21:01.50 | jak2000 | how to mount a folder from Server1 to server2 on /var/www/html/folder1 ? |
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| 21:03.16 | mutante | NFS or ssh-fs |
| 21:03.18 | elios | sshfs |
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| 21:03.44 | ghostyyy | hi, i am trying to use bitlbee on debian, i want to set a specific port number, but i dont know how, i have set it in bitlbee.conf, and also in debconf |
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| 21:04.05 | jak2000 | mutante elios, its ok this magic words on google: "debian NFS mount partition" ? |
| 21:04.09 | ghostyyy | despite me setting it in both of those places, it is still started on port 6666, instead of 7000 which is what i want to set it to |
| 21:04.24 | ghostyyy | this is after both systemctl restart and stop/start |
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| 21:04.40 | ghostyyy | i am at a complete loss as to where it is getting the port number if not those two places |
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| 21:04.59 | mutante | jak2000: sshfs might be easier |
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| 21:05.39 | jak2000 | mutante ok |
| 21:06.12 | jak2000 | reading: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-sshfs-to-mount-remote-file-systems-over-ssh |
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| 21:07.09 | mutante | jak2000: that sounds right :) yep |
| 21:07.21 | jak2000 | thanks |
| 21:07.25 | jak2000 | :) |
| 21:07.30 | ghostyyy | does systemd store configuration options? like port number, and etc |
| 21:07.32 | jak2000 | need generate ssh key? |
| 21:08.22 | mutante | ghostyyy: normally not, unless the options, port number etc are part of the commandline used to start the service |
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| 21:09.04 | ghostyyy | i see |
| 21:09.12 | ghostyyy | do you have any idea where bitlbee is getting its port number then? |
| 21:10.04 | ghostyyy | oh, it sets it in /etc/init.d/bitlbee |
| 21:10.26 | mutante | ghostyyy: if you use systemd, then it wouldn't use /etc/init.d/ anymore |
| 21:10.36 | ghostyyy | ExecStart=/etc/init.d/bitlbee start |
| 21:10.40 | mutante | unless the systemd unit file uses the init.d script.. which is horrible |
| 21:10.42 | ghostyyy | in the systemd unit file |
| 21:10.43 | mutante | hehe, yea that |
| 21:10.52 | mutante | well, that's not great :) |
| 21:11.01 | mutante | now you have worst of both worlds |
| 21:11.05 | ghostyyy | :D |
| 21:11.09 | ghostyyy | ah, i see where its being set |
| 21:11.13 | ghostyyy | in /etc/default/bitlbee |
| 21:11.19 | mutante | the systemd unit file should just replace the init script |
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| 21:11.27 | mutante | and then you delete it :p |
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| 21:11.34 | mutante | and use systemctl to start your service |
| 21:11.42 | ghostyyy | that would be way better, yeah =_= |
| 21:11.54 | ghostyyy | is it okay to make changes to /etc/default files? |
| 21:11.55 | mutante | systemctl status bitlbee should tell you where the unit file is |
| 21:12.01 | ghostyyy | and they wont eg get clobbered on future updates |
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| 21:17.36 | jhutchins_wk | Why would ntp not reach the servers, but ntpdate does just fine? |
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| 21:17.55 | tw | ghostyyy: yes, they will not get clobbered. |
| 21:18.06 | candidat1 | good night |
| 21:18.50 | ghostyyy | well this has been an adventure |
| 21:18.59 | ghostyyy | what in the absolute heck is the point of /etc/default |
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| 21:19.31 | ghostyyy | everything in there can be put in the proper configuration file for the service its for |
| 21:19.38 | hassoon | pets his i3wm |
| 21:20.16 | ghostyyy | or at the very least, there is absolutely no reason at all for bitlbee to have settings in there, it has a proper configuration file that you have to edit anyway |
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| 21:20.38 | tw | ghostyyy: Some services only take parameters on the command line. |
| 21:20.43 | tremon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:20.48 | ghostyyy | tw, bitlbee is not one of them |
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| 21:21.24 | coincoin169 | Hi, do you know where I can find doc to make a netboot.tar.gz ? |
| 21:21.39 | ghostyyy | (and, i should add, in the actual bitlbee configuration file, it says that the -p flag is determined by debconf, which is actually completely false |
| 21:21.42 | ghostyyy | ) |
| 21:21.55 | ghostyyy | i dont think the debconf stuff is used at all |
| 21:22.11 | tremon | ghostyyy: report a bug then |
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| 21:23.09 | tw | It was probably useful at some point. I've found that most software things I consider crazy are the result of code rot. |
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| 21:23.31 | tremon | or brain rot, for certain projects ;) |
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| 21:30.37 | Megaf | Hi all |
| 21:30.41 | Megaf | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 21:30.41 | Megaf | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.49 | Megaf | I want to remove chrome-gnome-shell only |
| 21:31.12 | Megaf | but it's seem to be set as dependency to gnome... Which is pretty stupid |
| 21:31.39 | Megaf | specially if you dont want to use chrome/chromium |
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| 21:34.37 | Megaf | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/392059/how-to-get-rid-of-gnome-shell-integration-extension-in-chromium-on-debian |
| 21:34.43 | Megaf | more people unhappy ^ |
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| 21:46.25 | awal1 | Megaf, chrome-gnome-shell is a recommend pkg not a hard dependency |
| 21:46.40 | awal1 | recommended by gnome-shell |
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| 21:47.35 | awal1 | well, at least under sid |
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| 21:49.24 | awal1 | apt-mark auto chrome-gnome-shell && apt remove (or purge) chrome-gnome-shell |
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| 21:52.01 | maxzor | Hi again, I have a hdd filled on windows that i try to mount on stretch. I do not know its filesystem type. When I type "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt i get "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock", do you know any workaround? |
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| 21:52.57 | maxzor | I have come across the TestDisk repair option but not sure it is the way to go. |
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| 21:53.45 | awal1 | megaf, I meant apt-mark manual chrome-gnome-shell && apt remove (or purge) chrome-gnome-shell |
| 21:53.54 | awal1 | manual, not auto |
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| 21:56.48 | Megaf | <awal1> well, at least under sid |
| 21:56.55 | Megaf | It is hard dependency on Buster |
| 21:56.59 | Megaf | I'm on Buster |
| 21:57.31 | Megaf | maxzor, likely is not /dev/sdb1 |
| 21:57.39 | Megaf | try sdb2 |
| 21:58.41 | maxzor | Megaf: lsblk tells me sdb1 2.7Tb disk and sdb1 350Gb part oO |
| 21:58.49 | Megaf | awal1, chrome-gnome-shell set to manually installed. |
| 21:58.56 | Megaf | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 21:58.56 | Megaf | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.57 | maxzor | sdb for disk i men |
| 21:59.27 | Megaf | maxzor, what fdisk -l /dev/sdb tells you about sdb1? |
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| 22:00.07 | Megaf | maxzor, besides, install ntfs-3g and try mount again |
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| 22:00.31 | maxzor | ah thanks it tells me fs type is HPFS/NTFS.exFAT |
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| 22:01.33 | Megaf | maxzor, apt install ntfs-3g exfat-utils |
| 22:01.43 | Megaf | maxzor, mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt |
| 22:01.48 | Megaf | should work |
| 22:02.08 | Megaf | If you didn't destroy the partition trying to fix something that wasn't broken |
| 22:03.17 | valerius | HPFS, unforunately, is removed from the default kernel, so you need to recompile kernel for adding it |
| 22:03.34 | Megaf | It's not hpfs... |
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| 22:04.19 | Megaf | HPFS is dead, it transformed into NTFS 20+ years ago |
| 22:04.33 | maxzor | stretch already had ntfs-3g and exfat-utils, I tried again mount vanilla and mount -t ntfs without success |
| 22:05.38 | maxzor | I havent used the hdd for 1+year so the broken fat boot is a possibility i guess |
| 22:05.42 | Megaf | can windows itself read it? |
| 22:06.06 | valerius | Megaf really? I still use it for OS/2 boot partition. Though, it is limited in size to 64 GB (But there is JFS for bigger partitions. But for a bootable partition it is ok. And it is safer to use it for the boot partition) |
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| 22:06.39 | Megaf | valerius, lol, OS/2 is 20+ years old |
| 22:06.45 | Megaf | and HPFS was OS/2 FS |
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| 22:06.55 | maxzor | Well thats were it gets hard :) Only my desktop with only stretch installed can read this 3" drive... I miss the external sata power to lauch it on my windows laptop... laptop |
| 22:07.02 | Megaf | maxzor, there is ntfsfix, you might want to try it |
| 22:07.02 | valerius | Megaf UNIX is even older, and what? |
| 22:07.11 | maxzor | ty |
| 22:07.16 | Megaf | valerius, you could use JFS :) |
| 22:07.35 | Megaf | I have been using JFS for / on my Debian systems for several years now |
| 22:07.42 | Megaf | fantastic FS |
| 22:07.48 | valerius | Megaf I use both HPFS and JFS |
| 22:08.08 | Megaf | I wonder if Debian and OS/2 can live in the same partition with JFS |
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| 22:08.27 | Megaf | That'd be nice, they sharing the home/user folder |
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| 22:09.43 | valerius | Megaf they can. You only need to format it with -O option (case-insensitivity). I used Debian Lenny this way, but newer Debians tend to use files with the same name, but other register, so it is problematic |
| 22:09.45 | maxzor | ntfsfix : "volume is corrupt. you should run chkdsk" Cannot it be exfat? |
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| 22:10.07 | valerius | they can -> you can, I mean |
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| 22:10.46 | valerius | maxzor maybe, it is dirty? |
| 22:11.09 | maxzor | not sure what you mean |
| 22:11.12 | valerius | maxzor did you tried to run fsck.ntfs? |
| 22:11.39 | valerius | maxzor it could be dirty, e.g., not checked |
| 22:11.55 | maxzor | fsck.ntfs? |
| 22:12.05 | maxzor | do you mean running fsck |
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| 22:12.14 | valerius | maxzor yes, it seems, it should be called like this |
| 22:12.24 | Megaf | maxzor, you have to choices |
| 22:12.25 | valerius | maxzor yes, fsck |
| 22:12.37 | Megaf | maxzor, you can try to fix the partition with fsck |
| 22:12.37 | maxzor | can fsck ruin data? |
| 22:12.57 | Megaf | maxzor, or, just clear the dirty flag and mount it anyway. ntfsfix -b /dev/sdb1 |
| 22:13.29 | Megaf | The commended option would be using windows checkdisk tool to fix the partition, that's the only less dengerous way |
| 22:13.43 | Megaf | ntfs is proprietary as far as I know |
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| 22:14.34 | maxzor | alright, thanks for inputs, ill get an external power cable tomorrow... |
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| 22:41.37 | Megaf | maxzor, You're welcome and good luck. |
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| 22:47.35 | rachelfish | Hi #debian |
| 22:47.56 | rachelfish | Does anyone here know the process of submitting software to Debian's apt repos? |
| 22:48.14 | rachelfish | This request has been open since 2015 - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794166 |
| 22:48.15 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/794166 in wnpp (open): «ITP: ddnet -- A Teeworlds modification with a unique cooperative gameplay»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2015-07-30; last modified: 2017-09-25. |
| 22:48.28 | rachelfish | On github: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/261 |
| 22:50.38 | rachelfish | DDNet is a fork of Teeworlds, which is already available in apt |
| 22:50.53 | rachelfish | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/teeworlds |
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| 22:56.09 | borrougagnou | bonjour j'ai un petit problème avec ssh, j'ai rm comme un idiot tout le dossier ssh se trouvant dans /etc... est-ce que quelqu'un sais comment je peux le recrée? |
| 22:56.30 | annadane | !fr |
| 22:56.30 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
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| 22:57.38 | annadane | borrougagnou, ou aussi debian-user-french@lists.debian.org |
| 22:58.15 | borrougagnou | annadane>aie ! sorry I'm wrong |
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| 22:59.04 | n4dir | borrougagnou: if you apt-get remove the ssh packages and reinstall them, they should be recreated. |
| 22:59.40 | borrougagnou | n4dir> I try but no working :/ |
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| 22:59.46 | borrougagnou | *I have |
| 22:59.52 | annadane | !not working |
| 22:59.52 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
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| 23:00.15 | annadane | sorry, i shouldn't go straight to the bot for stuff like that. i mean, how is it not working? |
| 23:00.28 | borrougagnou | x) |
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| 23:00.35 | Tramp | !confmiss |
| 23:00.36 | dpkg | You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>. |
| 23:00.46 | annadane | ahh |
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| 23:01.24 | n4dir | ahh from here too :-) |
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| 23:02.21 | borrougagnou | annadane>he don't recreate this ssh folder, I have same try apt-get purge ssh, but... don't change... I don't found /etc/ssh :/ |
| 23:03.01 | Natechip | installing stretch 19.2 and it says cd-rom couldnt be mounted |
| 23:03.17 | borrougagnou | huuu... impossible x) |
| 23:04.24 | Tramp | borrougagnou: ssh is a metapackage. purge openssh-server and openssh-client |
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| 23:04.39 | borrougagnou | HA ! okay |
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| 23:07.18 | borrougagnou | Tramp>I remove too openssh-sftp-server? |
| 23:07.44 | borrougagnou | oops I invert too and the command |
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| 23:17.15 | Tramp | borrougagnou: it depends on openssh-client, so it should be removed when you remove the client |
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| 23:18.45 | annadane | Natechip, how did you write the image to the cd |
| 23:18.52 | annadane | in other words, what program |
| 23:19.05 | Natechip | annadane: i used rufus |
| 23:19.36 | annadane | !rufus |
| 23:19.36 | dpkg | rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. It is not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 23:19.44 | annadane | you should use win32diskimager instead |
| 23:19.48 | annadane | !win32diskimager |
| 23:19.48 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show Debian .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
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| 23:23.02 | borrougagnou | Tramp>humm :/ I have purge and after re install openssh-server openssh-client openssh-sftp-server but... I don't have /etc/ssh folder :/ |
| 23:23.14 | Natechip | k |
| 23:23.37 | evilbug | who's talking smack about me? |
| 23:24.19 | annadane | evilbug, nobody. you may have gotten pinged because there was bot spam earlier |
| 23:24.32 | evilbug | so that spam bot was talking smack. |
| 23:24.38 | evilbug | hold my earrings. |
| 23:25.04 | evilbug | #comeatmebro |
| 23:25.17 | annadane | take it to #debian-offtopic, please |
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| 23:25.33 | evilbug | party pooper. |
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| 23:27.33 | annadane | borrougagnou, i don't know much about ssh but i feel you don't need an etc folder to use ssh |
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| 23:27.59 | annadane | i could be wrong, of course |
| 23:28.02 | evilbug | /etc/ssh holds the main config. |
| 23:28.03 | borrougagnou | annadane>how you configure port and other if you don't have this folder? :/ |
| 23:28.31 | evilbug | borrougagnou: bro, if you apt install ssh that folder should show up. |
| 23:28.31 | annadane | ah, okay, makes sense. i shouldn't talk about things i don't possess knowledge of. |
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| 23:29.27 | borrougagnou | wow ._. very strange |
| 23:29.34 | clinton | USBs are automounting in "/media/clinton/USB_name" under my username as owner as group, but as read only with permissions "r-xr-xr-x". How can I get them to automount read/write? |
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| 23:30.39 | evilbug | borrougagnou: it showed up? |
| 23:31.13 | borrougagnou | yes, ._. is strange openssh-server don't purpose to install this package ._. |
| 23:31.28 | evilbug | because that's a noob package ;) |
| 23:31.30 | evilbug | just ssh |
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| 23:31.53 | borrougagnou | no I have try remove and re install "ssh" packet only but is not working |
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| 23:32.03 | evilbug | borrougagnou: ssh is really more a meta package that takes care of all dependencies and such. |
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| 23:34.06 | borrougagnou | yes :/ |
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| 23:41.48 | borrougagnou | oww .__. strange... impossible to connect ssh... when I try ssh <ip> -l root .... He ask me for my password... but when I enter... .___. he say Permission denied ._. why? |
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| 23:42.20 | evilbug | ... |
| 23:42.26 | evilbug | root login is probably disabled. |
| 23:42.30 | evilbug | don't root login. |
| 23:42.31 | metastable | By default, yes. |
| 23:42.36 | christianpoveda | hi! does anyone knows if is possible to install firefox aurora from the mozilla.debian.net repo? |
| 23:42.40 | Megaf | borrougagnou, if Debian Stretch then root is disabled by default |
| 23:42.52 | borrougagnou | ha !!! okay... it's new for me x) |
| 23:43.01 | metastable | It's been disabled by default before stretch. |
| 23:43.08 | Megaf | borrougagnou, /etc/ssh/sshd_config edit that |
| 23:43.21 | themill | christianpoveda: I think their front page makes that prety clear |
| 23:43.28 | metastable | borrougagnou: Do NOT log in as root via SSH. The default is the sane choice. |
| 23:43.33 | Megaf | christianpoveda, wow, is there a Mozilla repo for debian? |
| 23:43.47 | Natechip | yayaya |
| 23:43.51 | Natechip | cd rom mounted |
| 23:44.03 | themill | Megaf: it currently doesn't contain anything |
| 23:44.29 | christianpoveda | and there is no other option? |
| 23:44.42 | borrougagnou | metastable>okay |
| 23:44.45 | evilbug | christianpoveda: nah, download the tar from the site and install it in /bin then create a /usr/applications/firefox.desktop file to have it show up in the menu. |
| 23:44.58 | evilbug | christianpoveda: ~/bin ** |
| 23:45.02 | christianpoveda | jmmm ok |
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| 23:48.18 | evilbug | christianpoveda: or switch to ubuntu for the ppa ;) |
| 23:48.25 | christianpoveda | evilbug: plz no |
| 23:48.32 | evilbug | why? |
| 23:48.39 | Megaf | christianpoveda, there's firefox 56 and 57 in that repo |
| 23:48.43 | evilbug | ubuntu server, toss a gui on top, yolo. |
| 23:48.59 | christianpoveda | maybe is a personal bias |
| 23:49.06 | evilbug | sure. |
| 23:52.04 | Megaf | <christianpoveda> hi! does anyone knows if is possible to install firefox aurora from the mozilla.debian.net repo? |
| 23:52.15 | Megaf | Asnwer: You can install Firefox Quantum |
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| 23:52.22 | Megaf | which is 57 b9 |
| 23:52.27 | Megaf | that is, latest beta |
| 23:52.38 | Megaf | I just installed from that repo |
| 23:52.42 | Megaf | pretty cool actually |
| 23:52.58 | Megaf | Thanks a million for letting me know I could do that |
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| 23:54.04 | brizz | how can I remove the default Network/Volume/Power widget in gnome3? (https://i.imgur.com/s1L2hix.png) |
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| 23:56.16 | Megaf | brizz, you want to remove just the icons? |
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| 23:58.42 | rant | I know right? been asking that question for days and doesn't just remove gnome3 and use something (easily) configurable |
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| 23:59.17 | brizz | ...just don't want it in the top toolbar anymore |
| 23:59.57 | rant | for decades all you had to do was right click the toolbar, then they release the new feature of not having any of the old features.. |
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