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| 00:09.05 | Andy1234 | hi there! |
| 00:09.19 | dvs | oi |
| 00:09.22 | Andy1234 | Hey guys, just went back from windows world and was wondering how good was KDE support in debian |
| 00:09.31 | Andy1234 | I've never used debian |
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| 00:09.39 | Andy1234 | I'm more accustomed to ubuntu |
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| 00:10.29 | dvs | Andy1234, What do you mean by support? KDE works well for me. |
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| 00:11.03 | Andy1234 | well, there are some distros that don't play nicely with kde |
| 00:11.16 | annadane | KDE is one of the main DE's in the net install, so it's pretty well supported |
| 00:11.29 | Andy1234 | sounds great ! :) |
| 00:11.37 | annadane | AFAIK no one's ever complained about debian specific implementations of any specific de or wm |
| 00:11.46 | annadane | debian as a whole is pretty darn solid |
| 00:11.49 | Andy1234 | and does it have any music production flavors? |
| 00:11.53 | dvs | !start a de war |
| 00:11.53 | dpkg | KDE blows goats! |
| 00:12.00 | dvs | ha |
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| 00:12.56 | annadane | kde or debian in general? there's blends, not sure if there's one for music |
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| 00:13.20 | Andy1234 | yeah I used to use kubuntu studio |
| 00:13.23 | Andy1234 | for music production |
| 00:13.33 | Andy1234 | so I was wondering if debian was suited as well for music |
| 00:13.46 | Andy1234 | mainly if it uses alsa |
| 00:13.54 | annadane | well, not my area, can't really answer it |
| 00:14.00 | Andy1234 | ahh ok :/ |
| 00:14.07 | Andy1234 | and low latency kernel? |
| 00:14.16 | Andy1234 | can it be installed as well in debian? |
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| 00:17.54 | annadane | Andy1234, https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia |
| 00:18.19 | annadane | ah, but that page maybe doesn't offer great information on blends |
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| 00:18.35 | annadane | https://blends.debian.org/multimedia/tasks/ |
| 00:20.05 | Andy1234 | annadane, hey nice link! looks like there is a Jack package :D |
| 00:20.14 | Andy1234 | for real time audio |
| 00:20.17 | Andy1234 | thanks :D |
| 00:21.29 | awal1 | Andy1234, check #debian-multimedia it may be more helpful |
| 00:21.36 | Andy1234 | thanks a lot |
| 00:21.56 | Andy1234 | awal1, 1 user in the channel XD |
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| 00:22.04 | awal1 | lol |
| 00:22.16 | awal1 | your 2 now |
| 00:22.37 | awal1 | you are |
| 00:22.50 | annadane | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ keep in mind 2.5 |
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| 00:32.08 | awal1 | which pkg uses gnome(shell) exactly for magNify the whole screen? orca (gnome-orca)? |
| 00:34.10 | awal1 | gnome should adopt arc themes; more elegants than adwaita |
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| 00:46.39 | Trel | Is there any way to see the PATH variable of a desktop environment is without launching a terminal |
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| 00:53.52 | Stormthunder2 | nickserv register 123456 umsqxwlhr5pa72ocbi1yv4kt@thedoge.net |
| 00:54.16 | annadane | Stormthunder2, change your password. also, get a better password |
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| 01:13.53 | foul_owl | Hi folks. Looks like updating to debian 9 broke my wired networking |
| 01:14.12 | foul_owl | No changes to the hardware, just wiped the system and trying to install debian 9 |
| 01:14.29 | foul_owl | Specfically the error I'm getting is "enp5s12 link not ready" |
| 01:14.50 | dvs | device names no longer go be "ethX" |
| 01:16.43 | foul_owl | Yes, I know that. This is a brand new install, just dhcp no longer works |
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| 01:16.56 | foul_owl | enp5s12 is the interface |
| 01:17.01 | foul_owl | And the error is "link not ready" |
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| 01:22.02 | FinalX | foul_owl: if you want your old eth* names back, open /etc/default/grub and add "net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX, then update-grub and reboot. |
| 01:22.29 | FinalX | and you can use ethtool to see the (physical) state of each interface |
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| 01:31.41 | foul_owl | I don't care about the interface name, I just want my connection to work |
| 01:31.47 | foul_owl | Works in 8, doesn't work in 9 |
| 01:32.04 | foul_owl | In 9 what happens is that dhcp auto conf fails over and over |
| 01:32.12 | foul_owl | This is during the install process |
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| 01:41.43 | foul_owl | Hmm, it seems to succeed if I retry DHCP auto conf over and over and over |
| 01:42.11 | foul_owl | With my debian 8 laptop I can plug into the same ethernet cable and get an ip almost instantly |
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| 03:45.23 | lanhaoweb_7598 | hi |
| 03:45.56 | annadane | lanhaoweb_7598, hi. do you have a debian support question? |
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| 03:48.19 | serpente | Hi |
| 03:48.34 | annadane | hi, serpente |
| 03:49.09 | lanhaoweb_7598 | not,i just find a talking 3dprinter channal,but i use android phone,it search tips channal to hard,so i came here find help,can you help me? |
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| 03:50.38 | annadane | not the right channel for that, unfortunately. |
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| 03:51.31 | jack666 | hi |
| 03:52.15 | jack666 | i am lanlan usr before |
| 03:52.37 | jack666 | can you help me ? |
| 03:52.49 | annadane | jack666, you can try asking in #android |
| 03:53.15 | jack666 | ok,thank you. |
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| 04:34.48 | BoBeR | hello |
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| 04:35.06 | BoBeR | when installing tftpd in testing I get this error |
| 04:35.15 | BoBeR | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:35.37 | n4dir | !debian-next |
| 04:35.37 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 04:35.58 | BoBeR | okay i'll switch servers |
| 04:36.16 | n4dir | assuming it is a bug, if it was me i would give the package from sid a try. |
| 04:36.31 | n4dir | check bugbreports too, etc. |
| 04:36.49 | n4dir | file one too :-) |
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| 04:39.14 | BoBeR | all bugs are 5+ years old |
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| 05:41.46 | lauwer | Hi, i have a problem using debmirror. the wheezy-updates debian-installer Packages is an empty .gz file and therefor it is not fetched. is there a flag to include those files ? thx |
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| 07:18.16 | spande | On a fresh stretch: I have unpacked a /home/thav that has uid 1001 and gid 1001. |
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| 07:18.45 | spande | how do I add thav to the users |
| 07:19.11 | spande | I tried: adduser --gid 1001 thav --uid 1001 thav |
| 07:20.09 | spande | and stretch says: adduser: The user `thav' does not exist. <----- duh, stretch, that's why I'm running the command.... |
| 07:20.58 | spande | (does not exist in /etc/passwd and so on) |
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| 07:26.06 | spande | solution: run groupadd -g 1001 thav first |
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| 07:30.59 | annadane | 1001 refers to what again? |
| 07:31.39 | pikaro | hi! I just dist-upgraded unstable and am getting "/etc/default/grub: Debian: not found", obviously preventing the setup of my new kernel. looking into the file, the first to lines say "GRUB_DEFAULT=0 GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo" and "Debian` GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=[...]" which does look weird. since I don't know how grub parses its config, I'd rather not experiment randomly. do I |
| 07:31.39 | pikaro | just have to put the "Debian`" on the previous line? and why did this happen? |
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| 07:32.12 | spande | 1001 refered to group of thav |
| 07:32.15 | annadane | !debian-next |
| 07:32.15 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 07:32.24 | annadane | pikaro, ^ |
| 07:32.28 | pikaro | annadane, whoops, sorry |
| 07:32.29 | pikaro | thanks |
| 07:32.40 | annadane | right, i just don't know what 1001 means in general temrs |
| 07:32.45 | spande | annadane: 1001 group was thav |
| 07:32.48 | annadane | i'm sure it's in the uuid manpage or something |
| 07:33.38 | spande | annadane, normal users and groups start from 1000 onwards in debian |
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| 08:06.48 | abff | infact every apt command that asks "Do you want to continue? [Y/n]" automatically aborts |
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| 08:24.08 | Labu | Hello I want to set -o option on csound to listen directly a file, but I don't find the file for pulseaudio stream output. Where is it in Debian ? |
| 08:24.19 | Labu | I have Mate + pulseaudio |
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| 08:30.36 | Labu | found it |
| 08:30.40 | Labu | thx |
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| 09:01.21 | OtakuSenpai | is chris gonna talk today at #live ? |
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| 09:01.47 | OtakuSenpai | i mean ofc he will |
| 09:02.14 | OtakuSenpai | but is he on the freenode servers, and does he help here? |
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| 09:03.38 | OtakuSenpai | just asking |
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| 09:04.24 | dax | yes, yes, not that i've seen |
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| 09:04.37 | OtakuSenpai | dax: may i know who he is? |
| 09:04.43 | dax | he isn't in here |
| 09:04.50 | OtakuSenpai | now? |
| 09:05.09 | dax | or in my recent #debian logs in general |
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| 09:08.46 | OtakuSenpai | i mean whats his name on freenode |
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| 09:41.13 | frostschutz | Alina-malina, ncdu? |
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| 10:21.32 | Alina-malina | frostschutz, i solve the issue, but i think this is causing this problem: systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service start request repeated too quickly, refusing to start. is there anyway to find what is causing this, i have tons of this lines in daemon.log file |
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| 10:33.58 | Labu | How can I reuse a backuped report on my system with bugreport. I ahve an error when sending and the report was save in my tmp How can I now send it ? |
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| 10:37.50 | jim | get the old report you want to copy from, copy, paste, lather, rince, repeat |
| 10:37.57 | jim | and, |
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| 10:38.48 | jim | if you want to reuse a bug report, is it that you want to add supplementary info to an existing report? |
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| 10:55.10 | pikaro | hi! is it normal for an absolutely minimal debian 9.1 boot to consume 80 MB+ of RAM in userspace only? that's the number on my openvz vps, and it just seems enormous to me. I recently asked the same on superuser, but nobody answered, so maybe someone will be able to tell me here. link to the question for more verbose context: https://superuser.com/questions/1261070/openvz-debian-9-1-with-only-systemd-sshd-and-bash-running-80-mbyte |
| 10:55.10 | pikaro | -of-memory |
| 10:55.58 | pikaro | sorry, unsplit link: https://superuser.com/questions/1261070/openvz-debian-9-1-with-only-systemd-sshd-and-bash-running-80-mbyte-of-memory |
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| 10:58.54 | pikaro | (also, if it's not just coincidental, it would be interesting to know why this appears to be a question someone more experienced with virtual machines couldn't answer from their off-hand) |
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| 10:59.25 | Labu | hi jim finally I send the report with my mail-client. I cannot sent it with bugreport because the connexion to my provider's smtp didn't work after wirte the report. So after a reconfiguration I would like to resend it. but I didn't find how I could that. So I sent it with thunderbird |
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| 12:12.08 | ChoHag | Linux is for some reason sideways on my new laptop. After correcting that with fbcon=rotate:1 the debian installer helpfully uncorrected it for me. |
| 12:12.32 | ChoHag | Is there any way I can tell the installer to do what it's told? |
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| 12:18.07 | RoyK | hi all. I've copied a disk with ddrescue and on it is an lvm configuration. Any idea how to connect to the pv at /dev/loop0p2? |
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| 12:23.06 | Cybertinus | hi, very stupid question: |
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| 12:23.22 | Cybertinus | where can I find the md5sum or sha256 sum of the debian 9.2 netinstall .iso? |
| 12:23.55 | shtrb | on the mirror itself (in the same folder) |
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| 12:24.30 | eamanu | Look this |
| 12:24.31 | eamanu | https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 12:25.05 | Cybertinus | right |
| 12:25.17 | Cybertinus | isn't an idea to add a link to those files on https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/#netinst-stable itself? :) |
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| 12:25.30 | Cybertinus | thnx, I have them now |
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| 12:25.55 | eamanu | take care that if the link is your debian iso |
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| 12:32.02 | introom | hi. I use "apt source linux". is the files in the linux-4.13.4 folder already patched with debian patches ? |
| 12:32.04 | introom | https://snag.gy/E79QCk.jpg |
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| 12:39.13 | _asmo_ | c |
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| 12:40.19 | johnny_|_ | Hi, how can I select my bt speaker as an output? I think it is connected but pavucontrol has no option to choose bt speaker. |
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| 12:43.57 | morningstar- | Hi everyone, what is the best and way to install new themes on gnome 3 without breaking applications? |
| 12:44.31 | merlac | i wrote my backups to /media/username/USB-HDD/BACKUP/ but that folder is still there when i disconnect the external harddrive. wtf, am i free to remove that now and how did this happen? (i'm about 99% sure the drive was connected until the write was finished) |
| 12:45.07 | merlac | the folder doesnt appear in mate's caja though, only in ls |
| 12:45.40 | merlac | (stretch, usb 2.0) |
| 12:46.28 | shtrb | did you tell your DE "safely remove " ? |
| 12:47.43 | merlac | yes |
| 12:49.11 | merlac | well let's see if duplicity verifies that backup once cp is finished |
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| 12:57.48 | eamanu | A question... PyCharm is open source? |
| 12:59.09 | introom | ok. it seems 'apt-get source pkg' will automatically apply the patches. |
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| 13:03.17 | JustASlacker | eamanu: they have a community edition, yes |
| 13:03.33 | eamanu1 | JustASlacker: THanks! |
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| 13:45.04 | Fjorgynn | hello I have installed a new debian installation |
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| 13:45.55 | Fjorgynn | but via the ssh I am not able to su root |
| 13:46.05 | Fjorgynn | I get authentication failed |
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| 13:48.46 | gpunk | are you able to connect via another user ? |
| 13:49.25 | Fjorgynn | I can connect via ssh |
| 13:49.35 | Fjorgynn | via the same user in the in digitalocean console I can go to su |
| 13:49.41 | Fjorgynn | which is a bit odd |
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| 13:49.52 | Onepamopa | Fjorgynn, sudo passwd -- change root's password |
| 13:49.54 | Onepamopa | then su - |
| 13:51.27 | Fjorgynn | I am not in sudo |
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| 13:52.16 | Onepamopa | so you added your user but didn't add it to the "sudoers" / "wheel" group? |
| 13:52.53 | sh00p | the installer will force you to create a user in wheel iirc |
| 13:53.19 | Fjorgynn | used adduser |
| 13:53.28 | Fjorgynn | anyhow I changed password to 123 |
| 13:53.45 | Fjorgynn | seems like the digitalocean access console is a bit worse than bad |
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| 14:14.33 | Fjorgynn | ... |
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| 14:17.45 | Fjorgynn | anyone here using debian 9 with digitalocean |
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| 14:19.31 | SerkanDevel[m] | How can one install the intel graphics update on debian stretch? |
| 14:19.55 | gpunk | what update ? |
| 14:21.20 | SerkanDevel[m] | *update tool |
| 14:24.00 | SerkanDevel[m] | /msg dpkg guidelines |
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| 14:24.36 | SerkanDevel[m] | Wait, where should I put this in? |
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| 14:34.06 | petn-randall | SerkanDevel[m]: In your IRC client. |
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| 14:39.39 | SerkanDevel[m] | But I'm on a Matrix client |
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| 14:41.17 | SerkanDevel[m] | I had something like this https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-update-tool-linux-os-v2.0.6 on ubuntu installed but can't find a debian equivalent of it. |
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| 14:45.43 | petn-randall | !guidelines |
| 14:45.43 | dpkg | 1) Read the /topic, the FAQ, and google before asking us. 2) Don't ask to ask, just ask. 3) Don't repeat; show that you have tried to help yourself by refining the question. 4) Reading documentation (man/info pages, READMEs) is a worthwhile skill, practice it. 5) Use /msg to talk to the bots (not the people), see <msg>. 6) Be polite and patient. 7) Paste into a <pastebin>, not here. 8) No trolls or spam. 9) see <code of conduct> |
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| 14:46.16 | petn-randall | SerkanDevel[m]: There is no such thing packaged in Debian, and even if, it would likeliy hose your system when you try to update it. |
| 14:46.29 | petn-randall | SerkanDevel[m]: What _problem_ are you trying to solve, though? |
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| 14:51.40 | galex-713 | Hi |
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| 14:52.32 | cristian_c | hello |
| 14:53.02 | cristian_c | when I use mozplugger, opening pdf files, I notice a strange behaviour about input events. If I use arrow keys on keyboard, they don't work, but if I use the mouse wheel scrolling, it works, instead |
| 14:53.20 | cristian_c | How could I fix the issue for embedded pdf files using it? |
| 14:53.26 | cristian_c | Any ideas? |
| 14:53.48 | galex-713 | I partially installed a package but it requires for config to download big pieces of stuff from openstreetmap (it’s the openstreetmap-carto) and I have a really bad connection (3G in a running car) and i’d like to remove it so that to install it properly later, how could I do that? |
| 14:54.12 | SerkanDevel[m] | petn-randall: I have minor screen tairing on a fresh debian install with lxqt and it also doesn't seem to be anti-aliased compared to ubuntu |
| 14:54.25 | abrotman | tearing? |
| 14:54.40 | galex-713 | Also, I noticed gnome-maps get the gps location from, dunno, 3g modem, while marble can’t, why? |
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| 14:58.26 | petn-randall | SerkanDevel[m]: That went away for me when I used SNA acceleration and set the tearfree option. What GPU generation do you have, though? |
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| 15:02.18 | galex-713 | Also why sometimes gnome-maps’ geolocation works amazingly and surprisingly well, and some other times it’s completely wrong (like, saying I’m in middle of Paris instead of Britanny) |
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| 15:04.34 | SerkanDevel[m] | Something like intel haswell hd graphics or something if I can remember correctly |
| 15:04.43 | shtrb | galex-713 , #marble but you need to have an updated build |
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| 15:05.09 | shtrb | petn-randall , is there a bug number for the tearing and fix ? |
| 15:05.36 | galex-713 | shtrb, what do you mean by updated build? |
| 15:05.52 | shtrb | the marble version in debian is (was ) outdated |
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| 15:06.07 | shtrb | so you can ask at #marble for instruction and build it locally and see if that one works |
| 15:06.47 | shtrb | does gnome-maps invoke fakegpsd or something when it does work ? |
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| 15:07.13 | shtrb | galex-713 , does gnome-maps invoke fakegpsd or something when it does work ? |
| 15:07.40 | galex-713 | shtrb, what do you mean by updated build? |
| 15:08.22 | shtrb | the marble version in debian is (was ) outdated, so you can ask at #marble for instruction and build it locally and see if that one works |
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| 15:08.58 | shtrb | galex-713 this look like your ISP is playing games on you |
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| 15:10.36 | shtrb | lol it's free , why I'm not surprised |
| 15:10.56 | SerkanDevel[m] | A free ISP? |
| 15:11.21 | shtrb | no , that the operator name |
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| 15:12.14 | shtrb | Their coverage and QOS (sometimes) is as good as altice customer service |
| 15:12.51 | shtrb | You would move from Altice to xfinity because they have superb service and customer service (in comparison ) |
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| 15:18.19 | SerkanDevel[m] | I don't know how it is there but my ISP (Meme Provider) is 1&1, which already a meme by itself. |
| 15:18.20 | SerkanDevel[m] | btw I can't find any xorg.conf file on my machine to enable SNA. |
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| 15:21.06 | petn-randall | SerkanDevel[m]: http://paste.debian.net/993122/ |
| 15:21.43 | petn-randall | SerkanDevel[m]: X11 by default doesn't need any xorg.conf anymore. The above snippet works for me, however you need xserver-xorg-video-intel installed. |
| 15:21.52 | petn-randall | SerkanDevel[m]: I assume you're running Debian stretch? |
| 15:22.00 | SerkanDevel[m] | Yes |
| 15:22.14 | petn-randall | Should work fine then. |
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| 15:25.25 | SerkanDevel[m] | Can the file be placed on `/etc/X11/xorg.conf` or should it be in a directory deeper? |
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| 15:26.33 | shtrb | isn't SNA need to be verified on a module level (not all support) |
| 15:26.33 | shtrb | ? |
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| 15:26.50 | shtrb | SerkanDevel[m] one dir down (xorg.conf.d) |
| 15:27.53 | SerkanDevel[m] | Ok |
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| 15:28.03 | SerkanDevel[m] | Now it's restarting |
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| 15:32.31 | Droid2Debian | I've taken the dive and due an inplace upgrade to buster, in orde to become an active member of the debian tester community |
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| 15:36.26 | SerkanDevel[m] | It fixed the screen tearing problem (tested with the youtube video "NOMA - Brain Power - LYRICS!") but not really the anti-aliassing issue. |
| 15:36.27 | SerkanDevel[m] | And now the screen is at max beightness and can't turn it down (still watching brain power). |
| 15:36.35 | rubi_ | hi SerkanDevel[m] |
| 15:36.51 | Shmam | I'm having two problems with my laptop power saving settings. |
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| 15:37.18 | Shmam | First problem: when I close the screen, nothing happens. I need to open it and close it a second time and then it will go to sleep |
| 15:38.01 | Shmam | Second problem: when I plug my laptop into power, it hibernates and the screen turns off. I then need to hit the keyboard to wake it back up |
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| 15:38.38 | Shmam | Debian 9 with KDE plasma 5.8.6 on 2017 Razer Blade Stealth |
| 15:38.41 | rubi_ | . |
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| 15:39.22 | shtrb | Shmam , check also at #kde |
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| 15:39.36 | Shmam | ok, will do |
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| 15:40.03 | shtrb | Did you configure power mangment on plasma level or os level ? |
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| 15:41.01 | Shmam | I'm not sure. The energy saving settings in the settings app don't even have these options |
| 15:41.09 | jhutchins | Shmam: Unfortunately there's not a tight standard for how power management is implemented in the BIOS. |
| 15:41.32 | jhutchins | Shmam: They tend to ship with their own in-house power management for Windows. |
| 15:42.10 | Shmam | Everything was working fine a couple of weeks ago. Something must have happened with a software update |
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| 15:42.40 | s|ipkn | EVERYONE KNOWS TINYHIPPO IS THERE. WHY IS HE CRYING??: Pelle` notemerson m4rCsi Tsutsukakushi abracadaniel mo1991 remy jubo2 Andreas33 r0bby funnel fearnothing Dragon092 `slikts Croepha Saar Typhon clorophormo x42 grew dym ledixus rysiek|pl parshimers p0g pk64_alt uwd aaro HeXiLeD CME SkIzZaTo SerkanDevel[m] pron zarzar Willis Downer Comnenus rudi_s NickyP uxfi theluckymike pfote borsin kchr AFNobody syamaoka hanasaki Mikail datasmurf lroe |
| 15:42.40 | penawasi | SECRET KKK MEETING AFTER THE SPEAKERS TODAY: Ericounet JimmySteve burg karlamrhein [HeOS] thiagoss Willis uptime `ryban himuraken_ solos fnkr SporkWitch ohithere hramrach AJ_Z0 AxForest hiya tekmo r3m tsia Ani- aib RT_FM sim590 Marlon notemerson Mikail Haxxa funnel zerick NaPs diytto Namidairo RebelCoder SuperTramp83 jonathaN verboese maxdml seprob ernini Kilo`byte Catatronic spanglesontoast maxzor Blanco MonsterKiller JelmerD pseudonymous Orbstheorem |
| 15:42.40 | ponk | SECRET KKK MEETING AFTER THE SPEAKERS TODAY: MyIgel Blanco Ard1t phenomcd trench chen Letimed argusbr Psy-Q rizzo cliluw rlange rooty_ JPT AlwaysHigh feodaron nse debchange tuv Lxrowe rxo pfote Hink hexnewbie Ericounet lungaro funnel dijenerate dza SQL qtch Guest46818 beardo sinduck cooldude brimonk Ssquidly Aethenelle themill sukaeto hiya Letze_ spritian tremon mf|cloud sobkas ilmaisin nodauf rkta azizLIGHT |
| 15:42.40 | flami | NIGGERS ARE NOT ALLOWED AT THE FREENODE CONFERENCE THIS IS FROM CHRISTEL: FinalX wybczu georgeowell sveva65 debsan_ `z dirac1 koollman DarkDevil sdx23 bipolar f10 noexcept talin Attoy Slumlord_ samouy lexruee Ani- Soliton catsup systo hid3 terr1 Haxxa dusares_ Ein Arieh smidlers Kopfstein ebarrett gluon meminemy_ Janhouse rlange SuperTramp83 vectr0n|cloud fleaz jonvonb rsx tremon Malinux sanmarcos interd0me EmleyMoor Natrick roylaprattep dmgk RobertClarke McLiv |
| 15:42.40 | pirlot | SECRET KKK MEETING AFTER THE SPEAKERS TODAY: Elirips armin sayo- benpro donofrio sophiya TmvC msantana b0b klys chaology djz88 Noah0504 sphalerite mhall119 kanzure ws2k3 metaphysician kj4 civillian spacebison noahfx iodev saboru towo` ebarrett benaiah uxfi Soliton Iridos _0x5eb_ pugfantus roger_rabbit necrose99 Linlz cujotus threen _MMx Mrloafbot_ Aristar Groenleer ineiros her0 t0ne High_Priest Sciuro luckman212 Mahe Lxrowe Fusl |
| 15:42.40 | iw | SECRET KKK MEETING AFTER THE SPEAKERS TODAY: nix-7 chen_ rolig nikow Guest85236 james41382 Tristan-Speccy nicdev dusares_ basicmiracle #debian mastensg bcd noxs Quick_Wango AxForest tapout Sciuro volter vutral rh10 Guest3 ^v tensorpudding grew lbatalha sine0 NeilHanlon Pwnna Ryushin magenbrot Arkaniad vaidy jannic qtch SuperTramp83 tremon wybczu GTAXL debchange ephemer0l melvin sparty ZetFury elik creat lungaro MACscr Benefit TReK |
| 15:42.40 | spura | NIGGERS ARE NOT ALLOWED AT THE FREENODE CONFERENCE THIS IS FROM CHRISTEL: davetk tccki smlb InFerNo_ her0 pk12 Cosmophile boubou beaky Commander1024 ^v kward Kendo_Cocaine Masaomi[m] bruce549 waz0wski CurryWurst Archrover el hassoon gluon Ekchuan jsdk MichaelSasser Guest3 jsleeio borsin probono AlwaysHigh juhop ex seprob phenomcd beardy Nik05 pmn x10 MrHyde lparmentier[m] finlstrm snkcld p0g lukasdboer tuv hicks_ vivid iCherry Megaf ShaRose cthuluh |
| 15:42.40 | spura | PIA HATES NIGGERS: noahfx Merixer SwedeMike somepoortech tsia AlwaysHigh Loomaanaatii CEnnis91 alreece45 ScottE theluckymike soee_ sptnx Igel hiyosi yemel Bryanstein NeilHanlon mavhq wooden s|ipkn Typhon situ` oerheks shoogz thnee paradizelost Quatroking shingouz cvr blacksyke kapitalist cadillac_ ashka _0bitcount PhilSliderS sn0wmonster sistematico fury_ SWAT StephenS heurist benaiah Shmam dudz GNU\colossus orb linurandy_ Strife1989 ariador |
| 15:42.40 | hacke | NIGGERS ARE NOT ALLOWED AT THE FREENODE CONFERENCE THIS IS FROM CHRISTEL: Dev0n Scotteh Darcidride Hydroxide [HeOS] Druid Nitori tabris Kamilion paulgrmn jubo2 pokeguylow DebianUser_ Downer lappet NeilHanlon MeanEYE Namikaze csh-harmful qman__ Janhouse przemoc MACscr Mathisen Agiofws grew Toris sndb ezra-s Fjorgynn spura flokuehn binaryc aaro Atlas bitch [red]claw helldorado klys Dad` Zauberfisch Pkudoz Psy-Q chalcedony jdn_ linurandy_ |
| 15:42.40 | hacke | PIA DOES NOT ALLOW HTTPS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRACKING WHO YOU ARE AND SNOOPING: f10 PhilSliderS duoi bigpresh Arianna stefanc_diff Druid wjtaylor_ mandeep skott deltam rudi_s ryan-c krytarik cristian_c melvin nux stackofcats JC_SoCal GenteelBen fnkr tomreyn dym bb36e yk Sciuro Mikail frazr tobiw pokeguylow k4tfish schoppenhauer ScottE precise heurist etp Pwnna LambdaComplex adc xar- abra0 tadz mukmuk pugfantus m4dh4tt4 de-facto ultralow re |
| 15:42.40 | share | PIA DOES NOT ALLOW HTTPS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRACKING WHO YOU ARE AND SNOOPING: Digz apollojustice freanux ntd flyingkiwi bruce549 bipul richvdh SpeedyG hanasaki wybczu DerLG penawasi kini lungaro ephemer0l SerajewelKS _0x5eb_ msantana CowboyNeal pron modlin kward whiskey9_ disi basicmiracle fiQmob Trel ariador hexhaxtron x-fak Olipro Mmike beaky LightAmaze hele bardkorren egos sulvone BenderRodri Arkaniad haircode bertbob Kitty amospalla err404 etp ledufakademy Hu |
| 15:42.41 | smuu | NIGGERS ARE NOT ALLOWED AT THE FREENODE CONFERENCE THIS IS FROM CHRISTEL: sn0wmonster hasdf bytesquid kale sandman13 j3x Frikilinux ffernand zack6849 ckuehl rkta burg kri Savemech Nd-69-M mattgirv Ekchuan bolt chipdalf_ altendky Catatronic mdroid jon aib LocaMocha hobbyquaker vonsyd0w_ distantorigin frankie ikevin debsan_ tapout duckydan jelly zululee krabador TReK alreece45 keith4 slax0r uptime Canucktux likcoras spacedust noodle james41382 iskatu phantomcircui |
| 15:42.41 | fool`sgar | PIA HATES NIGGERS: smlx Downer klys n4n0` de-facto james41382 kh4i blackes__ sudhackar bcd Soliton gatekeep ggherdov InFerNo_ shalok shoogz Aix_ CurryWurst thallada cusco paradizelost Mazhive kwmiebach cristian_c Nefertiti JesseWalling Hestben jareth_ jelly enoch85 Baudelaire ongolaBoy Cisien phre4k aerbax teej Aristar hasdf Waggie nagetier sheedy CyberJacob Toris Druid d00bster_ peteski foul_owl Spec nyaomi gvvg_ |
| 15:42.41 | fool`sgar | PIA DOES NOT ALLOW HTTPS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRACKING WHO YOU ARE AND SNOOPING: gvvg_ mdorenka Hoosilon_ platicus2 sukaeto __nils__ lel bfit nymony martybr karakedi shadoxx chownsauce dza heinrich5991 sulvone brwoods vaidy benaiah nikow datasmurf probono [sr] craysiii cbmuser slax0r zerocool mnuhmnuh MyIgel lukasdboer zyley cheapie XDS2010|AFK bigpresh Robby rednul p frazr WebDawg Jguy valerius Brigo royiv atomi Namikaze kbelyea nw |
| 15:42.41 | smuu | PIA HATES NIGGERS: thrasymachus b0b Guest46818 Gm4n flokuehn inaki Hink Exagone313 Jim[m] Mathisen jonvonb Deific disi sphalerite finlstrm kolla glebihan_ orb Baudelaire Sue mossman indistylo distantorigin pfoo password2 thalos d3lphi levifig Anarchic Dezponia MuffinMedic JasonO rudi_s Onepamopa schoppenhauer kInOzAwA hashworks iViLe FoolishOwl linurandy_ Saar shtirlic graytron sine0 nicdev eck admiral0 llucenic martybr knx |
| 15:42.41 | ponk | SECRET KKK MEETING AFTER THE SPEAKERS TODAY: tw avantgardist Hobbyboy bitch Gabe hele _KaszpiR_ jesopo sirhobbes3 FabTG_ Kopfstein cliluw Tiffon cusco erre haircode cef enoch85 ryan-c littlebear pyllyukko rxo NoCode p_quarles trewas olivetree_ bove NeoBlaster davidebeatrici n4n0` epsilon pawalls twisted` guios brian_ finlstrm tobiw peteski Hink benaiah JStoker stu_meat msev- HeXiLeD Spitfire `slikts TvL2386 Catatronic Ishaq stealthii |
| 15:42.41 | ponk | SECRET KKK MEETING AFTER THE SPEAKERS TODAY: finlstrm syamaoka seprob borsin spacebison kmh Hink PhilSliderS ToeSnacks cherti claris sunkan sndb SaltySolomon gunix kward trench AfroThundr nutron skza alreece45 t3eblinder1 LambdaComplex rooty_ ledixus juhop dysfigured zyley hramrach fleaz Guest20101 Spec cbmuser Shmam __3r1c__ frazr namix roguelazer XPUCTOB SM0TVI dmos modlin MoDaX kevin1024 WizardGed webbyz HeXiLeD samtunez pugfantus TonyL |
| 15:42.41 | ponk | NIGGERS ARE NOT ALLOWED AT THE FREENODE CONFERENCE THIS IS FROM CHRISTEL: kj4 Peetz0r Catatronic Masaomi[m] seyeongkim nodauf littlebear inspectorcluseau amd_0x51 JohnDoh valerius jesopo uxfi Arianna Megaf pseubodot bitch m4rCsi spritian RH_IO WizardGed phogg kculpis promach joze kini k4tfish nickenchuggets n0p_ brimonk joel135 debhelper Frikilinux __3r1c__ iter Hink swordfischer Danielss89_ eck Mrloafbot_ bigpresh lionheartActual xingu SerkanDevel[m] f10 HeXiLe |
| 15:42.41 | share | PIA HATES NIGGERS: AJ_Z0 ephemer0l Guest46818 claris GenteelBen v4s- brimonk Nitori teej jhill littlebear netzach pokeguylow zymurgy scc Mazhive n0p_ nku apollo13 ghoti toozej alexlist tw ws2k3 platicus2 grew sukaeto sphalerite jelly rolig devurandom de-facto ponyofdeath kini ledufakademy Arkaniad Gm4n Bratwurstschleud K1rk RichiH musalbas SerajewelKS dxrt CodingWithClass uptime peterrooney _systemd_is_evil sayo- cusco beuker |
| 15:42.41 | fool`sgar | NIGGERS ARE NOT ALLOWED AT THE FREENODE CONFERENCE THIS IS FROM CHRISTEL: Rockj abu0 ArchDuke t inaki rsx dym aerbax MrHyde bhuvi___ mtn blingrang CtrlC ariador rkta db` XDS2010|AFK ramshadow donut_ smuu bb36e nnyby Waggie mandeep bfit NeilHanlon aliasnumber13 Skaag sobkas gratuxri nyaomi Arsiesys nopf kapitalist Hydroxide MoDaX Mikail Cosmophile spura grumble el jesopo Moose__ AntiSpamMeta Letimed dusares_ HeXiLeD Texou cliluw |
| 15:42.41 | hacke | PIA HATES NIGGERS: rdleon gusnan Bryanstein Hobbyboy wolfmitchell bitch guerby FabTG_ her0 Uberius cdown qman__ Mmike valerius t0ne c0ded Granis Jdbye SporkWitch lavenders anexit_ gluon pfote HeXiLeD etp d00bster_ askz LambdaCalculus37 JPT geard sloucher lel s|ipkn mutante maxdml smuu soee_ mpmc mww113 himuraken_ tremolo vonsyd0w_ stealthii icew_ pokeguylow sukaeto mati dsc_ iw j0z |
| 15:42.41 | hacke | PIA HATES NIGGERS: Frikilinux HeXiLeD fool`sgar kj4 egos vvande JelmerD joel135 p0g0 APLU EF`` skott raidsec PhilSliderS abu0 themill turfrex deadk nick123 Sciuro karstensrage LiENUS sistematico toto geard dohfish cdown drith Toris duckydan mundus beuker bb36e himuraken_ Kilo`byte devurandom pikaro_ Brigo johnny_|_ Kamilion borsin tadz nikow icew_ Sleepy63 Pwnna Nitori Logg lungaro t3eblinder1 |
| 15:42.41 | hacke | NIGGERS ARE NOT ALLOWED AT THE FREENODE CONFERENCE THIS IS FROM CHRISTEL: nog3_ insidious rockstar[N] ryan-c alreece45 rysiek|pl AFNobody Hunterkll ijmad waz0wski Benefit JPT paradizelost nrs_ TReK turfrex notemerson Haxxa mpmc enki Renari styles Lirion blazeme8 Krennic mxh- Incepti0n sobkas mrtnt SporkWitch GNU\colossus Carno sandroandrade DarkDevil finlstrm zerocool burg vreg syamaoka Zyferus Orphis cybrNaut braingain eck dsnow_ coold |
| 15:42.41 | fool`sgar | PIA DOES NOT ALLOW HTTPS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRACKING WHO YOU ARE AND SNOOPING: exezin pk12 j0z himuraken_ a_j__c _0bitcount james41382 JustASlacker rdleon rant sc SirCmpwn rubi_ thallada brizz EF`` `z angular_mike___ hayer rymax99 nick123 SkIzZaTo ultralow orb nicoulaj M3mphiZ LambdaCalculus37 ShaRose pierrot ledufakademy hesperaux rizzo fearnothing Ceber johnny_|_ qzio__ phorce1 hasdf rasb avantgardist promach qtch _systemd_is_ev |
| 15:42.41 | fool`sgar | SECRET KKK MEETING AFTER THE SPEAKERS TODAY: wonderworld ArlequInOut yepla sielicki xayto flami yokel cendo mrtnt StathisA redrabbit Strife1989 TmvC Hobbyboy chiluk ^v heurist pierrot precise rancyd rymax99 Asoka Ametrine hanasaki Ugrastil p_quarles hiya richvdh `z Alina-malina High_Priest Nazara Hydroxide GDiaX tapout kInOzAwA preaction x42 dixie7z_ shingouz dirac1 Merixer karlamrhein Enrico_Menotti ShaRose RH_IO bhuvi___ Guest |
| 15:42.41 | fool`sgar | PIA DOES NOT ALLOW HTTPS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRACKING WHO YOU ARE AND SNOOPING: MACscr McLive Zardoz Hydroxide edi rOss^64 _KaszpiR_ Pricey Frikilinux Danielss89_ luz1 guideline_ Smuckerz hanasaki eldritch Asoka Alam_Squeeze NeilHanlon linuxdaemon DLange rasb krenn0842 SpeedyG r00tobo pvoigt hue rachelfish SwedeMike Adbray ledufakademy preyalone zarzar zyley synthmeat rdococ ToeSnacks frikinz Benefit Agiofws gregf scoobertron latez |
| 15:42.41 | share | PIA DOES NOT ALLOW HTTPS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRACKING WHO YOU ARE AND SNOOPING: _systemd_is_evil johanbr fnkr F14W3D deadk Waggie Granis Tristan-Speccy Marlon ribasushi sinduck ujjain penawasi rudi_s nopf rolig Piggy tablebanger Ein sphalerite ramshadow phenomcd tobias1 etp denken skza Riviera Tiffon Gransy- noahfx zl33pyr SuperSeriousCat Amun_Ra shahri JStoker stackofcats webbyz spritian cadillac_ richvdh riex ggherdov uptime GDiaX smidlers hawken jannic elliot007 |
| 15:42.41 | fool`sgar | SECRET KKK MEETING AFTER THE SPEAKERS TODAY: Adbray Xjs|moonshine LuaCoder_Dev jubo2 Acrisor CodeBlue1776 Skywave dka at0m sandroandrade haircode flokuehn qoreQyaS neskau Stummi stealthii Namidairo d-k hele yepla Piper-Off mgdelacroix Fastolph Devastator matthiaskrgr ledeni vegenaise beuker LaunchDirector kInOzAwA woshty rkta JStoker internat Ard1t Megaf Dezponia fauweh makz pelegreno_ TheNerdisRight lukasdboer Pwnna benaiah fch |
| 15:42.41 | smuu | EVERYONE KNOWS TINYHIPPO IS THERE. WHY IS HE CRYING??: darkalia nhandler fcharton Deific Vector3 botho codingquark monty NaPs wjtaylor_ whiskey9_ Mazhive luuh hessu Brain drale2k Bonn333 [Echelon] neskau mtn Strife1989 pikaro_ phantomcircuit Pelle` esainane Savemech vonsyd0w_ apollojustice neoromantique altendky __3r1c__ LtL TriJetScud bcd flipp Orbstheorem Letimed sonnixin _0bitcount petn-randall Zyferus elliot007 AxForest Tiffon maik tomocha_ bigjazzsound s7r |
| 15:42.41 | *** kick/#debian [fool`sgar!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.) |
| 15:42.41 | ponk | EVERYONE KNOWS TINYHIPPO IS THERE. WHY IS HE CRYING??: pawalls samtunez brian_ nauticalnexus mpmc twisted` Zyferus elysium LeandroLuiz jsleeio noexcept SleePy eck JZTech101 linuxthefish Guest34 Spydar007 webbyz JimmySteve DXR_ ArlequInOut uwd tsia ozzloy avantgardist MyIgel sanmarcos l9 disi SuperTramp83 jannic binary106 thurin shtrb enoch85 [red]claw gluon ksft Waggie mumixam frikinz Zvmdyv basicmiracle Guest47344 mavhq yepla CurryWurst Nomads dijenerate rubi_ |
| 15:42.41 | nucle | PIA DOES NOT ALLOW HTTPS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRACKING WHO YOU ARE AND SNOOPING: DustyDingo f10 edi cliluw phorce1_1ome cyphix nighty- x10 georgeowell Guest8 rafalcpp Saar Snakes ghormoon olegfusion lungaro systo Phibonacci_ atomi funnel graytron TMan459 CtrlC brw gftg aedinius hexa- bolt Yugidude1 donofrio brolin_empey preaction _0x5eb_ SuperSeriousCat zerick plicease hele LambdaComplex duckydan Benefit askz Spiffy kriskropd teej jgornick Asoka mf|cloud luckman2 |
| 15:42.41 | nucle | EVERYONE KNOWS TINYHIPPO IS THERE. WHY IS HE CRYING??: dadinn sweatsuit littlebear aliasnumber13 richardjohn Namikaze ponyofdeath peterrooney Raed Linlz tyranny12 JelmerD Sciuro bachler duckydan BaW boxrick installibre mdorenka simon_q spacebison slax0r sinduck SporkWitch argusbr FoolishOwl NickyP Gurty ghormoon kyan rdz dionysus69 bazhang DK2 klaas yepla hyperreal beuker peteski preaction geordie teraflops nebul8 ectospasm valerius GenteelBen F14W3D fool`sga |
| 15:42.41 | nucle | SECRET KKK MEETING AFTER THE SPEAKERS TODAY: loptr Spydar007 askz wjtaylor_ c yepla Downer iskatu Namikaze bobe nix-7 sunkan Guest18753 strass yuastnav Cisien beaky goberle Ticho wingman2 xiqy smuu noexcept vectr0n|cloud planetmaker sulvone Warrigal her0 Hestben aib jimi1 RickXy jesopo cmam LaunchDirector jaxson spura N3X15 Ametrine Mysterytrain djz88 edvb ledufakademy blackwell claris |ifei5good lifeofguenter Cosmophile nickenchuggets Louis |
| 15:42.41 | smuu | PIA DOES NOT ALLOW HTTPS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRACKING WHO YOU ARE AND SNOOPING: Rhuarc Comstock- threen teej cmichel netrace holmgren nikolah yuastnav duracrisis grew guios shalok planetmaker ripdog Jamboy nurupo TimWolla EmleyMoor brw baba_ JyZyXEL SQL Quantumcross bezaban sveva65 bipolar davetk nicoulaj tobiw dubwoc fleaz stmiller e1z0 DustyDingo magnulu meminemy_ Kamilion nhandler paul3 maxdml XeonSquared Ein Pseudo m712 Velgor phormulate iViLe unixbassen gateke |
| 15:42.42 | nucle | PIA HATES NIGGERS: ujjain lstanley nickenchuggets spanglesontoast Acrisor cluelessperson soahccc Pedr0 Xjs|moonshine Andocromn _0bitcount guios blueness Letze_ NickyP Randy areyouloco turfrex msev- p_quarles rh10 tsglove darkro redrabbit therock247uk eblip MichaelSasser Dev0n bier x10 cm_ Gurty datasmurf `ryban thallada Ein Danielss89_ _systemd_is_evil kpease_ Eduard_Munteanu AlexZ_ HoolooBOO rkj abra0 Hunterkll jaxson osx enki jager Guest8 |
| 15:42.42 | nucle | SECRET KKK MEETING AFTER THE SPEAKERS TODAY: zzla bardkorren StathisA Haxxa dmgk ernini altendky eldebrim1 guerby rh10 bertbob p0g rkta kculpis kalebo ericnoan s|ipkn Shadowcrit mhall119 lkolstad SkyPatrol Linlz JelmerD mrm fury_ spacedust rxo cujotus kanzure Dj_Dexter mgdelacroix SwedeMike msantana nodauf paul3 gusnan elysium _rubik donut_ sveva65 wtalleghany LucaTM rudi_s wooden LorD_n1c0w chalcedony rancyd shoogz bitch ziongate |
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| 15:42.42 | claris | SECRET KKK MEETING AFTER THE SPEAKERS TODAY: XDS2010|AFK nurupo exezin RebelCoder finlstrm adrenaline rlange bnk teraflops maik loptr Xanthor llucenic Schmetterwurm KnoP mort yepla Trellmor timeless Xjs|moonshine ArlequInOut Anarchic snw xiqy Alina-malina hassoon jaxson Immanuel phenom elios aerbax renzhi angular_mike___ jadesoturi nhandler toruvinn klys or4n Enrico_Menotti grew Lazuruz mumixam tobias1 CodeBlue1776 maxdml ramshadow dos1 Kendo_Cocaine Vector3 |
| 15:42.42 | claris | PIA HATES NIGGERS: fatalis Deviance edi guideline_ thib Kilo`byte qoreQyaS Geistes SerkanDevel[m] sobkas Scuttle NeoBlaster jmcnaught Pseudo rizzo Letze_ chalcedony volodim sef sekjun9878 burg hicks_ Louis flyingkiwi raidsec plicease DoctorD90 maxdml qqx wybczu eldritch bigjazzsound sidewalk nO0b brick stackofcats james41382 Anne armin jonasbits reu abff hexhaxtron sanmarcos rsx lankanmon Archrover DK2 ron-slc thurin |
| 15:42.42 | claris | NIGGERS ARE NOT ALLOWED AT THE FREENODE CONFERENCE THIS IS FROM CHRISTEL: churnd pk12 Jim[m] EmleyMoor Otyg royiv canvon_ [red]claw AxForest p8m s rafalcpp rdleon ron-slc Pkudoz lparmentier[m] rh10 asterismo_l meLon Anarchic jlacroix Guest3 Kamilion melvin cateye XPUCTOB argus ws2k3 mossman Pichet_ ntd azizLIGHT Al_lA sussudio iskatu metaphysician xayto AfroThundr Sue graingert aliasnumber13 rakor n-st verm1n sidmo pppktz xingu rudi_s threen ectos |
| 15:42.42 | claris | PIA HATES NIGGERS: vvande abu0 ezra-s baum MobileMatt CurryWurst rkj catsup msb LaunchDirector Ssquidly sulit plicease SWAT l0xas wybczu ArchDuke uNmowed beuker ledeni craysii rxo coderphive m712 ernini leibniz vaidy SuperTramp83 KnoP yokel Groenleer Mahe Rubin WebDawg hele ultralow c0ded blingrang vvz James_T gigetoo fyrril Gazooo McLive kbob Brigo chownsauce Voldenet abra0 Guest20101 |
| 15:42.42 | claris | PIA HATES NIGGERS: Natrick darkalia abra0 DarkDevil mrtnt Apeiron` ujjain dudz jordanm Firztspawn hayer cateye dka sim590 xayto threen d1b Furai torch2319 beaver Ellied jmyrv GrimKriegor Namarrgon SirLagz d00bster_ dmarr phogg LordLamer peterS Chex installibre blacksyke drot ikevin XeonSquared trewas MACscr bw_ darxmurf tsia LorD_n1c0w Orochimarufan digdilem SQL nighty- dynek nauticalnexus ffernand Arianna |
| 15:42.43 | darkro | PIA HATES NIGGERS: bobe fooctrl cherti dejun17 hasdf nux darxmurf elliot007 XSoul Megaf Tsutsukakushi `ryban wspthr BotaniCar sag3 conspacer p0rt Blanco msantana freanux ThoMe enki indistylo Noah0504 krabador jaxson XDS2010|AFK QuadBad maxzor rudi_s ketralnis danieli darkalia MrGeneral AlexZ_ keith4 paulgrmn situ` Acrisor lstanley frankie SerkanDevel[m] SaltySolomon benj__ jnes tabakhase DK2 binary106 meinemitternacht p0g |
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| 15:42.43 | darkro | EVERYONE KNOWS TINYHIPPO IS THERE. WHY IS HE CRYING??: CapsAdmin Mahe heinrich5991 Bryanstein zerick AndrewMC Asoka blingrang Rothgar LiENUS Arrowmaster Tristan-Speccy nighty- CurryWurst ketralnis Renari ksft iCherry kapitalist krups ledixus genpaku Gransy- neskau akxwi-dave Loomaanaatii sukaeto Kamilion jesopo mus styks1987 JStoker vuser Namikaze Arianna sudhackar peterrooney pztrick a_j__c netzach nix-7 Cosmophile ntd graytron nwe Hink imMute msantana mha |
| 15:42.43 | darkro | EVERYONE KNOWS TINYHIPPO IS THERE. WHY IS HE CRYING??: strass remote richvdh pyllyukko Ishaq thunderrd Scotteh |ifei5good n-st simonlnu GhostInTheShell mcintosh alexbligh1 mukmuk b0b qoreQyaS _0x5eb_ parshimers x-fak Quantumcross chownsauce nickenchuggets preyalone JStoker adc Uberius alexlist Nitori bobe ghoti Anne Linlz notemerson sukaeto iCherry [HeOS] leerg319 msev- Gm4n sidmo fooctrl patsToms Namikaze Kulrak Baudelaire freanux judd Arsiesys slack_ Andr |
| 15:42.53 | Slumlord_ | fucking |
| 15:42.55 | Quatroking | hi |
| 15:42.55 | ZetFury | go away |
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| 15:43.13 | at0m | don't comment on the bots please. |
| 15:43.14 | shtrb | wtf ? |
| 15:43.22 | Shmam | wtf was that |
| 15:43.26 | pikaro_ | wat |
| 15:43.32 | necrose99 | b0ts |
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| 15:43.43 | Ticho | just ignore it |
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| 15:43.47 | Shmam | i clicked away for 2 seconds and then like 40 messages got posted waow |
| 15:43.52 | danieli | or |
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| 15:44.16 | necrose99 | geeze even my build spam to my own overlay chan is more quiet ... |
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| 15:45.09 | Shmam | sooo. anyone have any ideas on my power management issues? |
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| 15:46.49 | SerkanDevel[m] | ...And turning down screen brightness? |
| 15:46.50 | SerkanDevel[m] | I'm still watching brain power and I think my eyes are bleeding |
| 15:47.25 | Shmam | I'll post my question again so yall don't need to scroll through that shit |
| 15:47.26 | Shmam | I'm having two problems with my laptop power saving settings. First problem: when I close the screen, nothing happens. I need to open it and close it a second time and then it will go to sleep. Second problem: when I plug my laptop into power, it hibernates and the screen turns off. I then need to hit the keyboard to wake it back up |
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| 15:52.35 | SerkanDevel[m] | Is my wifi down? |
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| 15:57.20 | s3rp3n7 | hi |
| 15:57.48 | Shmam | ur wifi is up SerkanDevel[m] |
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| 15:58.52 | dimde | trying to setup a printer that doesn't show up in cups… any help? |
| 15:59.16 | dimde | I can see it in `lsusb`: Bus 001 Device 007: ID 04e8:326c Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd ML-2010P Mono Laser Printer |
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| 16:00.54 | password2 | the spam bots care more about me thanmost people |
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| 16:02.45 | teej | password2: You may need a strong password. |
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| 16:03.01 | Shmam | or two |
| 16:03.22 | teej | Password protection is important. |
| 16:03.39 | SerkanDevel[m] | 2fa too |
| 16:03.50 | teej | We should have passwords that are 128 characters long. |
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| 16:04.18 | iCherry | speaking about passwords, how safe is https://passwordsgenerator.net ? |
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| 16:04.43 | SerkanDevel[m] | We should have passwords that are TLS-keys |
| 16:04.59 | nkuttler | iCherry: you turst somebody else to generate your password? |
| 16:05.25 | iCherry | nkuttler, "Generate on your device" box |
| 16:05.44 | shtrb | from a scale between 1 and equifax ? |
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| 16:06.00 | Shmam | just use a password manager |
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| 16:06.15 | SerkanDevel[m] | An 11-year old cloud sell you one https://youtu.be/rGwSxwPcH1U |
| 16:06.19 | iCherry | i just save my passwords in a hidden text file.... |
| 16:06.24 | teej | iCherry: I would use OpenSSL. |
| 16:06.30 | Shmam | well that's not a good idea |
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| 16:06.49 | nkuttler | iCherry: browser randomness is bad |
| 16:06.49 | Shmam | storing them in a hidden text file |
| 16:06.54 | SerkanDevel[m] | petn-randall: how can I turn down screen brightness after inserting the file? |
| 16:06.59 | iCherry | Shmam, it has root perms? |
| 16:07.14 | Shmam | what has root perms? |
| 16:07.22 | iCherry | root read, execute write |
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| 16:07.42 | Shmam | you mean the password manager? |
| 16:07.57 | iCherry | no, i just write my passwords in a text file, and save them as root |
| 16:08.08 | Megaf | SerkanDevel[m], You wifi is up |
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| 16:08.32 | ledeni | dimde, apt-get install splix |
| 16:08.42 | Shmam | eh |
| 16:09.08 | Shmam | I trust the security systems of the password manager apps more than I trust my skills |
| 16:09.14 | Shmam | so that's what I use |
| 16:09.37 | dimde | ledeni suggests to install printer-driver-splix instead which had been automatically installed before. |
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| 16:11.46 | OnkelTem | Hi all |
| 16:11.52 | OnkelTem | Why could lsof -i print nothing? |
| 16:12.06 | OnkelTem | it is debian:jessie docker image |
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| 16:14.25 | jhutchins | dimde: Plenty of info on the net for using that printer with cups. |
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| 16:14.41 | jhutchins | OnkelTem: There are no open files? |
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| 16:14.48 | jhutchins | OnkelTem: You are not root? |
| 16:15.05 | OnkelTem | jhutchins: root, netstat prints some connections |
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| 16:15.30 | ledeni | dimde, go to 'http://localhost:631' and configure your printer & Then restart the CUP Service (cupsd) to make it load the new settings like 'root@linux:~# /etc/init.d/cups restart' |
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| 16:20.07 | jhutchins | ledeni: Shouldn't need to restart cups. |
| 16:20.40 | dimde | ledeni, cups doesn’t see any printers to configure. I now installed the manufactuer's driver which seemed to do the trick… so thx. |
| 16:21.06 | jhutchins | Interesting. 109 MB of archives. After unpacking 88.4 MB will be freed. That implies about 20MB of install scripts & such. |
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| 16:21.53 | jhutchins | dimde: The nice thing is that Apple uses (& supports) CUPS, so if a printer's going to work on a Mac, it'll work on Linux. |
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| 16:32.05 | Shmam | When I close the screen, nothing happens. I need to open it and close it a second time and then it will go to sleep. (Debian 9 with KDE Plasma 5.8.6) on Razer Blade Stealth 2017. Pls send halp |
| 16:33.08 | mtn | Shmam: what is your video card/chip and driver? |
| 16:34.22 | mtn | Shmam: install inxi and run this in a terminal: inxi -Gx |
| 16:34.43 | Shmam | i7-7500U with the integrated graphics |
| 16:35.13 | mtn | Shmam: please run inxi command |
| 16:35.31 | mtn | Shmam: paste the results to paste.debian.net |
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| 16:36.08 | Shmam | http://paste.debian.net/993128/ |
| 16:36.40 | Shmam | the graphics drivers seem to be pretty unstable. It will sometimes just freeze up and I need to restart the computer |
| 16:36.47 | Shmam | maybe they are also causing this issue? |
| 16:37.51 | mtn | Shmam: which kerne are you running? |
| 16:38.26 | gunix | why is debian the only channel always getting spammed? really now? what can anybody have against debian? it's like the best distro ever made. it's the father of all distros that all the new hippy linux kiddies like. why ever spam THIS channel, of all channels? |
| 16:38.27 | Shmam | 4.9.0-4-amd64 |
| 16:38.39 | gunix | can't people just spam #ubuntu or #vmware? ffs |
| 16:38.50 | gunix | no disrepect, ubuntu is a great distro |
| 16:40.00 | mtn | Shmam: I wonder if a newer kernel from backports would help? |
| 16:40.28 | password2 | spams gunix |
| 16:40.28 | Shmam | How would I go about installing that? |
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| 16:41.25 | mtn | !backports |
| 16:41.25 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 16:41.47 | mtn | !debian-backports |
| 16:41.47 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 16:42.00 | mtn | Shmam: second link |
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| 16:43.59 | Shmam | ok. I'm going to try that. |
| 16:44.09 | Shmam | do they have release notes for the different kernels? |
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| 16:44.45 | jscoder | I had a crypt container ext4/luks aes-xts on a USB HDD and my machine was very slow I thought the old HDD was dying, then I switched to a 128gb thumbdrive same setup and it was still slow so I chalked it up to the limitations of the SBC I was using, now I got the drive on a more powerful machine and its still grinding to a halt I believe I may have some bad FS/Crypt option enabled for this setup that is dr |
| 16:44.51 | jscoder | iving overhead through the roof. |
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| 16:48.43 | frostschutz | jscoder, CPU supports aesni? (grep aes /proc/cpuinfo) Really using aesni? (cryptsetup luksDump, cryptsetup benchmark). Crypt container was opened before or after loading aesni? If aesni isn't loaded it won't be used even if you load it later |
| 16:48.53 | Shmam | is there any risk to ue a backport kernel? |
| 16:49.13 | mtn | Shmam: no, the other kernel will still be available, anyway |
| 16:49.56 | jscoder | frostschutz: this system does not, no. the other one I'm not sure as its not turned on currently as I have it's disk in this machine |
| 16:51.15 | jscoder | frostschutz: I'd think if the decoding alone were the issue my CPU would've been showing significant usage and its usually mostly idle |
| 16:51.41 | Shmam | mtn: I gtg but I'll try that new kernel later today and hopefully it will work. Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it! |
| 16:51.48 | jscoder | I was thinking perhaps its some indexing feature of the OS or some strange incompatibility with the aes-xts and ext4 or something |
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| 16:51.57 | jscoder | s/OS/FS/ |
| 16:51.58 | mtn | Shmam: welcome |
| 16:52.50 | frostschutz | jscoder, dunno. if it's a newly made ext4, it does some lazy initialization in the background that can harm performance but... it's difficult to debug such things in any case. run a cryptsetup benchmark anyway to get a rough idea what to expect |
| 16:53.13 | jscoder | what's occuring is that the machine is locking up significantly and without htop showing any significant CPU usage or lack of ram.. which makes me think its gotta be something throwing interrupts or IO wait or something |
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| 16:53.54 | jscoder | frostschutz: I will try that and try dig around and figure out what options I set on the FS as well.. I think I may have used DIR indexing |
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| 16:54.39 | frostschutz | jscoder, playing with io schedulers could be a thing to (deadline, noop) |
| 16:55.22 | frostschutz | if you have a particular program that gets stuck, strace it so you see what it is stuck on, but that doesn't work if the kernel itself gets stuck in general |
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| 16:56.35 | jscoder | frostschutz: well nothing particular but easiest way for me to induce a lockup is simply to open a program like say geeqie and scroll through some pictures which causes it to do a lot of reading/decoding of files of course.. eventually usually after a dozen or so it'll freeze up |
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| 16:57.07 | frostschutz | jscoder, but there's nothing in dmesg? |
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| 16:58.00 | jscoder | frostschutz: no and anywhere from 10sec up to 5 minutes later it'll come back.. like its swapping hard.. but no swap is in use.. when I've done a SAK in the past it showed swapper was the process it killed though which baffles me |
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| 17:01.56 | jscoder | frostschutz: actually the only thing I get in dmesg now that I recall is high-speed usb resets on the address |
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| 17:02.14 | jscoder | frostschutz: no associated read/write type errors, just the reset |
| 17:02.33 | frostschutz | jscoder, that could be a cable or controller problem then... or even driver problem. anyway it should not happen |
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| 17:04.02 | jscoder | frostschutz: well I've eliminated cables and hubs and even as I mentioned switched from an old hdd with sata dongle to a brand new 128gb thumbdrive.. and both devices showed these USB resets even plugged directly into the hub and on two different machines no less |
| 17:05.37 | jscoder | something related to this crypt setup is causing the USB resets I guess.. but I can't imagine what.. I'm not aware of any timeouts or such on USB or why it is performing the reset |
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| 17:08.54 | jscoder | whatever is going on it seems to be related to the use of this particular setup over USB, has nothing to do with any specific hardware as I've used different physical disk types, on different machines, and any time I put aes-xts, ext4, and usb together I get major lag and high-speed USB resets |
| 17:09.47 | jscoder | I just want encryption, preferably better than 64x ROT13 :P but it doesn't have to be aes-xts with ext4. |
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| 17:10.23 | jscoder | aes of some kind is a must simply because the kernel on my SBC doesn't have support for anything else |
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| 17:23.53 | aura | does cinnamon have a different xorg configuratin than other DE? |
| 17:24.15 | aura | i'm missing the xorg.config file |
| 17:24.25 | aura | shouldn't be there? |
| 17:24.30 | mtn | aura: modern distros don't have one |
| 17:24.31 | at0m | aura: i think xorg.conf is deprecated |
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| 17:24.58 | at0m | (unless you have some exotic video card (nividia?)) |
| 17:25.04 | at0m | nvidia even |
| 17:25.47 | aura | could the video card have something to do with that? |
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| 17:26.23 | at0m | !xorg.conf |
| 17:26.23 | dpkg | From Debian 5.0 "Lenny" onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Resolution is set by your monitor/graphics card (unless they're broken), by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze", input hotplugging saves duplicating settings and restarting X after changes. The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often blank. Manual configuration is still possible, see <xorg manual config>. |
| 17:27.04 | aura | ok thanks |
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| 17:27.30 | aura | i'm setting up a special usb decive but i'm getting problem with it |
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| 17:32.20 | jhutchins | These days people tend to use partial xorg.conf fragments to just address their specific needs. |
| 17:33.35 | pfred1 | the Nvidia installer makes an xorg.conf file |
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| 17:34.29 | pfred1 | configuring X by hand used to kind of suck |
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| 17:39.03 | jocthbr | Hey guys |
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| 17:39.58 | jocthbr | Did you ever face memory consumption with no process being responsible? |
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| 17:40.19 | jocthbr | I'm using Debian 8.9 |
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| 17:45.07 | xsdg | jocthbr: how are you determining memory consumption? |
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| 17:54.25 | Droid2Debian | Jesus marry & Josef Boxes /quemu just can't handle para virtualization of netbsd |
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| 18:02.12 | jhutchins | jocthbr: Google "linux ate my ram". |
| 18:02.24 | jhutchins | jocthbr: Unused RAM is pointless. |
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| 18:02.41 | shtrb | lol |
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| 18:05.14 | angular_mike___ | Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -1 |
| 18:05.23 | angular_mike___ | any systemctl command |
| 18:05.48 | shtrb | back to multi user and back to graphical |
| 18:06.16 | shtrb | systemctl isolate multi-user \n systemctl isolate graphical |
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| 18:07.26 | angular_mike___ | shtrb: invalid number of arguments |
| 18:07.42 | shtrb | the \n mean click on enter |
| 18:08.09 | angular_mike___ | the first command gives Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -1 as well |
| 18:08.10 | shtrb | this will restart the graphical interface and come back , should also restart dbus on the way |
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| 18:08.29 | angular_mike___ | I said all systemctl commands fail with it |
| 18:08.57 | angular_mike___ | even just plain systemctl without anythign |
| 18:09.06 | shtrb | can you try that with root ? |
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| 18:09.23 | angular_mike___ | i am root already |
| 18:09.30 | shtrb | And hdid it start after you tried setting it (dbus) as non system level ? |
| 18:09.44 | angular_mike___ | no idea |
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| 18:19.22 | shtrb | is dbus running ? |
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| 18:19.57 | fakefur | can i ask about debian testing stuff here? |
| 18:20.09 | angular_mike___ | yes |
| 18:20.09 | ebarrett | don't see why not |
| 18:20.10 | shtrb | !debian-next |
| 18:20.10 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 18:20.14 | angular_mike___ | it is running |
| 18:20.30 | fakefur | thnx :) |
| 18:20.38 | shtrb | but you can try here as well |
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| 18:24.31 | GPenguin | how can i find out which the corresponding binary is of - /Applications/Utilities/Image Viewer |
| 18:25.01 | nkuttler | GPenguin: that's not a debian file.. but dpkg -S <path> |
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| 18:25.13 | GPenguin | not a debian file? |
| 18:25.25 | nkuttler | er, not sure what your question actually is |
| 18:25.35 | nkuttler | but yes, debian has nothing in /Applications |
| 18:25.50 | shtrb | I think he talks about menu |
| 18:26.05 | nkuttler | eh.. |
| 18:26.08 | GPenguin | on debian with gnome3 i have the application menu open, go from there to utilities and select "image viewer" |
| 18:26.16 | GPenguin | but i need to know which binary calls it |
| 18:27.10 | nkuttler | GPenguin: that depends on your desktop environment configuration |
| 18:27.15 | GPenguin | doh |
| 18:27.36 | GPenguin | how can i help you to help me? |
| 18:27.37 | shtrb | the easist would be psing after you click , but you could find the .desktop file for it |
| 18:27.43 | nkuttler | or xprop |
| 18:27.56 | Smither | I am having problems with apt-get. I have some dependecy problems but no idea how to fix. whenever i do anything with apt-get I get this http://paste.debian.net/hidden/a6bcc534/ . I have tried dpkg-reconfigure for dbus-user-session and for dbus-x11 but both give the same error as in the paste, I have also tried reinstalling them both but I can't do that either. can anyone point in the right direction to fix it? |
| 18:28.21 | shtrb | nkuttler how can I use xprop to access menu ? |
| 18:28.42 | cybrNaut | SSD users: "man mount" says discard "is off by default until sufficient testing has been done". Is the /discard/ mount option still risky? |
| 18:29.11 | nkuttler | shtrb: that's not what xprop is for |
| 18:29.25 | nkuttler | Smither: do you have systemd installed? |
| 18:29.35 | Smither | yes |
| 18:29.49 | shtrb | nkuttler ok how it would help him ? |
| 18:29.54 | nkuttler | Smither: ls -l /dev/log |
| 18:30.21 | Smither | nkuttler, no such file. |
| 18:30.22 | nkuttler | shtrb: type xprop, enter, click viewer |
| 18:30.31 | nkuttler | Smither: well... |
| 18:30.42 | GPenguin | xprop was exactly what i needed. thank you |
| 18:30.45 | nkuttler | Smither: that should be something like /dev/log -> /run/systemd/journal/dev-log= |
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| 18:31.25 | Smither | nkuttler, I have a /run/systemd but no journal dir inside that |
| 18:31.56 | nkuttler | ,v uuid-runtime |
| 18:31.57 | judd | Package: uuid-runtime on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.20.1-5.3; jessie: 2.25.2-6; stretch: 2.29.2-1; buster: 2.30.2-0.1; sid: 2.30.2-0.1 |
| 18:32.09 | nkuttler | !tell Smither about debian-next |
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| 18:32.47 | nkuttler | Smither: also, unattended upgrades on anything that's not stable is, like, one of the worst things you can do |
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| 18:33.20 | Droid2Debian | I can't seem to get VirtualBox 5.2 to install |
| 18:33.45 | Droid2Debian | on buster https://pastebin.com/Ev9wkjeA |
| 18:33.48 | Smither | nkuttler, most of my system is on stable just needed to get php7 off of unstable. in hind sight probably should of just installed php7 from source instead of adding unstable to apt sources. I'll ask on debian-next. |
| 18:33.52 | nkuttler | !tell Droid2Debian about debian-next |
| 18:34.04 | nkuttler | Smither: ouch.. |
| 18:34.12 | nkuttler | ,v php7 |
| 18:34.13 | judd | No package named 'php7' was found in amd64. |
| 18:34.36 | nkuttler | ,v php7.0 |
| 18:34.37 | judd | Package: php7.0 on amd64 -- sid: 7.0.14-2; stretch: 7.0.19-1; buster: 7.0.22-3; sid: 7.0.22-3 |
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| 18:35.10 | cybrNaut | Droid2Debian: pastebin.com is cloudflared, blocking access to some ppl. better to use paste.debian.org |
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| 18:36.52 | Droid2Debian | cybrNaut, Comcast my damn isp blocks paste.debian,org from Washinton state based ip addresses |
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| 18:37.57 | shtrb | :) wait you should be thanfull you are not altice customer |
| 18:38.05 | cybrNaut | Droid2Debian: yikes.. comcast is an awful company to support financially. If you must use them, you should at least have a vpn.. i would not trust them with traffic visibility |
| 18:38.17 | cybrNaut | Droid2Debian: for the issue at hand, use sprunge.us |
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| 18:39.15 | cybrNaut | Droid2Debian: also, i would see if you can push a legal issue there too.. DoS attacks like that are hacking |
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| 18:41.29 | Droid2Debian | paste.debian.org is oia atm |
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| 18:43.19 | Droid2Debian | In my experience comcast/NBC has checkered history of prioritization of their propritary content and a pro windows atmospheere |
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| 18:44.35 | shtrb | is that a DOS attack ? |
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| 18:45.58 | cybrNaut | they are denying access.. it is a dos attack. although Droid2Debian probably signed an agreement to let Comcast block anything they want |
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| 18:46.28 | cybrNaut | i'm sure Comcast ToS is among the most abusive you'll find |
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| 18:52.17 | jscoder | I've got Jessie installed (not live) to a thumbdrive, last time I tried suspend (MATE: System>Shutdown>Suspend) it had came right back on back to where I'd left it. System is old IBM Thinkpad, partitions on the thumbdrive are 10G /, 20G /home, 2G swap. What might be the issue with suspend? (HDD has XP on it) |
| 18:53.26 | jscoder | all partitions are correctly identified by UUID in fstab |
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| 18:57.04 | mnuhmnuh | jscoder: first, i'd use tails for that. then i'd wonder what stuff are you running that does auto-updates that you may not know about. just guessing. |
| 18:57.51 | jscoder | tails? |
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| 18:59.08 | jscoder | the character from Sonic The Hedgehog, otherwise known as Miles? tail(1)? the often furry appendages of 4 legged mammals? |
| 18:59.55 | xsdg | jscoder: :D |
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| 19:00.38 | xsdg | jscoder: do you see anything interesting in `dmesg`? |
| 19:00.48 | jscoder | that was incredibly vague unless "tails" is something I'm not aware of that offers more context :P |
| 19:01.03 | xsdg | jscoder: usually if the kernel wants to complain about something suspend-related, that's where it'll show up |
| 19:01.27 | jscoder | I'll try again as soon as my current file operations complete |
| 19:01.41 | jscoder | last time I did it was days and many boots ago |
| 19:02.06 | jscoder | I'd just like to try fix it now so when I'm doing crap like I am now I can turn this thing off without loss |
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| 19:02.58 | jscoder | as I understand if I suspend to the swap on the thumbdrive with debian I should be able to even boot windows or turn the machine off, and still be able to resume even with file operations going on |
| 19:03.13 | dragonion | /quit |
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| 19:04.14 | r3 | can I used hdparm to do a Secure Erase on the drive I booted from, or is that a Bad Idea* |
| 19:04.19 | mnuhmnuh | !tails |
| 19:04.19 | dpkg | Tails (The Amnesic Incognito Live System) is a live DVD/USB <based on Debian>, with the aim of preserving privacy and anonymity. It is not supported in #debian. https://tails.boum.org/ #tails on irc.oftc.net. |
| 19:04.55 | jscoder | ah. yet another debian based distro.. heh |
| 19:05.22 | mnuhmnuh | recc'd by ed snowden |
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| 19:06.03 | jscoder | considering how things had gone for him... he's either the worst person or the best person to take advice from depending on how you look at it |
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| 19:06.48 | jscoder | though issues with suspend are common enough and not exactly top-secret |
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| 19:06.50 | david3 | Hi, so is the default netinstall link from the main page to a stable or testing version? |
| 19:06.57 | mnuhmnuh | ignorance is bliss. |
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| 19:07.43 | jscoder | david3: we don't much like "default" around here, its a dirty word.. |
| 19:08.03 | david3 | I mean the promoted one on the front page |
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| 19:08.22 | jscoder | david3: its most likely the stable version unless you were on a page for testing the installer |
| 19:08.22 | david3 | https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 19:08.32 | jscoder | david3: current/ would be stable |
| 19:08.41 | jscoder | latest point release |
| 19:08.54 | david3 | Ok, I guess you could say default because it doesn't specify |
| 19:08.56 | johnkeates | it's the default release |
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| 19:09.03 | johnkeates | which is current |
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| 19:09.10 | johnkeates | by default |
| 19:09.14 | jscoder | heh |
| 19:09.15 | david3 | which is stable by default |
| 19:09.17 | johnkeates | indeed. |
| 19:09.20 | johnkeates | ;-) |
| 19:09.36 | jscoder | hands johnkeates a bar of soap for his dirty mouth |
| 19:09.47 | johnkeates | eats the soap. |
| 19:09.53 | david3 | I run Debian for desktop like gaming and browsing the web, music etc. Not a server. It was suggested by another person who uses Debian the same way to use Testing. |
| 19:10.36 | johnkeates | david3: that makes no sense. if you need something new, like a new kernel, you are better off just using backports to install a new kernel |
| 19:10.50 | johnkeates | other than that, going to testing or unstable only means the software will break |
| 19:10.56 | johnkeates | by default |
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| 19:12.11 | jscoder | david3: switching debian releases is rather simple and can be done with any installer. However as for choosing Debian and wheter or not to use stable, thats a longer discussion. For one thing using our testing or unstable branches limits your support options and you should know how to use various tools. First you should decide if Debian is really what you want |
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| 19:12.57 | indistylo | unable to format pendrive, it shows this message, https://paste.debian.net/993163/ , how to get rid of this problem |
| 19:13.39 | indistylo | how to mount/umount and format usb pendrive from command line |
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| 19:14.14 | jscoder | david3: http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian http://www.debian.org/social_contract |
| 19:14.16 | indistylo | in single Pendrive it shows 2 partitions /dev/sdb |
| 19:14.33 | jscoder | curiously both those links are giving me a 404 right now though |
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| 19:17.04 | jscoder | indistylo: nothing in that paste has anything to do with mounting or formatting that drive |
| 19:17.21 | mnuhmnuh | what's jetbrains? |
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| 19:17.47 | david3 | Jetbrains, the company that makes integrated development environments. |
| 19:18.06 | david3 | Like RubyMine for Ruby Programming. Or PyCharm. |
| 19:18.26 | indistylo | jscoder, I am asking for solution. In that paste there is basic information, so that community can read and suggest some command/help in direction to think of |
| 19:18.33 | jscoder | indistylo: mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1p2 /mnt or mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1p2 or if you want to repartiton, just wipe the partition table and format the whole device |
| 19:18.36 | david3 | I don't program, but I check that stuff out over the years since I have some unexplained interest and I studied Computer Science in university. |
| 19:18.49 | jscoder | indistylo: yes but it doesn't suggest what you want specifically or what you've tried that isnt working |
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| 19:19.47 | mnuhmnuh | david3: ty. |
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| 19:20.27 | jscoder | that doesn't exactly explain what jetbrains fuse driver is in this context though |
| 19:21.09 | jscoder | I'd never known a IDE to need its own custom fs driver |
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| 19:22.20 | mnuhmnuh | jscoder: isn't *everything* about kde custom? |
| 19:22.48 | jscoder | what does KDE have to do with this |
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| 19:23.45 | mnuhmnuh | maybe just my prejudice. :-| |
| 19:23.57 | jscoder | I mean I know the old saying "everything but the kitchen sink" and KDE even has that.. but still.. no context here suggests KDE to me :P |
| 19:24.11 | jscoder | ,info kitchensync |
| 19:24.12 | judd | No package named 'kitchensync' was found in stretch/amd64. |
| 19:24.24 | jscoder | hmm maybe they took out the kitchen sink |
| 19:25.08 | jscoder | ,v kitchensync |
| 19:25.09 | judd | No package named 'kitchensync' was found in amd64. |
| 19:25.25 | jscoder | oh well.. I know I didnt imagine that so I must be mispelling it |
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| 19:27.04 | jscoder | it was an opensync frontend for KDE *shrugs* |
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| 19:47.45 | Droid2Debian | How does one load the dkms module for virtualbox without rebooting? |
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| 19:48.38 | nkuttler | Droid2Debian: modprobe |
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| 19:52.00 | jscoder | rebooting would not aid you in loading a module anyhow |
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| 19:53.57 | nickgaw | Hi, Why when I install the qemu package is there no qemu binary? |
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| 19:55.10 | nickgaw | all of the qemu-system packages are installed but qemu does not exist why is this or why is it not documented in the debian wiki? |
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| 19:56.58 | pfred1 | nickgaw what does dpkg -L qemu-system say? |
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| 19:58.17 | nickgaw | tells me just /usr/share/doc stuff exists for that package. |
| 19:58.19 | relaxed | it's a metapackage, try dpkg -L qemu-system-arm |
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| 19:58.50 | pfred1 | metas mess me up I kind of hate them |
| 19:58.54 | relaxed | dpkg -l "qemu*"|grep ^ii |
| 19:58.54 | dpkg | ii "qemu*"|grep ^ii 3.2-12.1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 19:59.18 | relaxed | oh, didn't mean to summon the bot |
| 19:59.49 | pfred1 | I wonder how to escape the wraith of dpkg? |
| 19:59.54 | nickgaw | I wish to run x86_64 virtual guests using qemu what package should I install? |
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| 20:00.12 | sds_ | hi all, I have an issue with gr-gsm script. I just installed it from pybombs, and I'm using a hackrf. The script grgsm_scanner just crash as soon as I start it. Return code 1. Even with the -v option, no output. any idea on how to troubleshoot? |
| 20:00.23 | relaxed | nickgaw: /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 |
| 20:00.35 | nickgaw | on top of the target system is a x86_64 system so the same system type for both target and guest systems |
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| 20:01.13 | relaxed | yes |
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| 20:03.49 | relaxed | nickgaw: have you seen this? https://wiki.debian.org/KVM |
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| 20:07.29 | nickgaw | I am looking at it now. |
| 20:07.29 | relaxed | nickgaw: debian has virt-manager, https://virt-manager.org/ |
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| 20:12.53 | nickgaw | and why are al of those packages not in stretch when I try to install them? |
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| 20:13.30 | nickgaw | qemu-kvm exists but none of the libvert stufff exist |
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| 20:14.20 | relaxed | virt-manager is in stretch |
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| 20:15.45 | Lxrowe | Someone dinged? |
| 20:16.29 | Lxrowe | Right, the usual. :3 |
| 20:16.51 | nickgaw | ok found it |
| 20:17.09 | nickgaw | does it use text mode stuff like the curses option to KVM? |
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| 20:22.15 | nickgaw | I think I found what the probem was I had testing lins in sources.list so it had installed from testing but I have an image of stable so no big deal and /home is on it's own partition so I lose nothing from roling back could this be why certain packages don't exist? |
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| 20:54.32 | david_ | What is more recent package linux-source-4.9 or linux-source which says it is 4.9+80deb9u2. I don't know the difference much. |
| 20:55.14 | david_ | I'm trying to run the NVIDIA driver from the website instead of doing the contrib unfree instructions. |
| 20:55.22 | david_ | and it is asking for gcc, make and linux-source |
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| 20:59.33 | towo` | david_, you don't need the source |
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| 20:59.55 | towo` | david_, apt install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 21:00.00 | david_ | Really? The nvidia driver gave me an error and exited and said I needed something similar to linux-source pakage |
| 21:00.10 | david_ | ok, headers, that is similar package |
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| 21:00.23 | towo` | david_, and don't use the installer from nvidias website |
| 21:00.23 | david_ | so I need that uname stuff? what is that? |
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| 21:00.37 | towo` | that thing will break your system |
| 21:00.56 | johnkeates | dont install nvidia from web |
| 21:01.01 | johnkeates | bad things will happen |
| 21:01.08 | johnkeates | children in africa will starve |
| 21:01.12 | johnkeates | tiny seals will die |
| 21:01.14 | johnkeates | just don't do it |
| 21:01.17 | david_ | towo`: Oh, ok. Really?! Ok. I've never used it before, at least not finished the install successfully. |
| 21:01.35 | towo` | david_, don't do it |
| 21:01.49 | towo` | david_, what's wrong with nvidia-driver from debian? |
| 21:01.56 | david_ | I have just followed the guide at the debian website in the past. But, I thought it was a newer version and maybe I also read some people did it and it fixed some problemd I google donce. |
| 21:01.56 | pfred1 | it works here |
| 21:02.59 | pfred1 | if you web install you have t oreinstall every time you update the kernel |
| 21:03.06 | pfred1 | which gets old |
| 21:03.37 | towo` | pfred1, wrong |
| 21:03.49 | pfred1 | towo` how you figure? |
| 21:03.53 | towo` | pfred1, kernel updates are not a problem, since dkms os used |
| 21:04.12 | david_ | btw. I just installed and I noticed you have to select the only audio device before audio will work. Otherwise the default profile is set to analog. Seems like an unecessary step. |
| 21:04.12 | towo` | problems do come, if x or mesa components are updated |
| 21:04.15 | pfred1 | well it was always a problem for me |
| 21:04.31 | pfred1 | but i haven't web installed since Lenny |
| 21:04.43 | david_ | Do I understand correctly that Wayland won't be part of Debian until version 10 and Debian relaeses are about 1.5 years apart? |
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| 21:05.14 | pfred1 | glad I'm switching to Gentoo |
| 21:05.28 | david_ | I don't need to be generating my own distro. |
| 21:05.45 | pfred1 | I feel the need for control here |
| 21:06.29 | david_ | The one thing that might be cool is a pre-configured setup of Debian with sources.list and some packages installed. |
| 21:07.03 | pfred1 | at this point I'm compiling everything I want to install anyways |
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| 21:16.03 | r3 | so I had just installed the freshest iso-cd of Debian, and got a rather dour message about UNetbootin causing issues. I have used that utility for years without any problems - I assume any issue would be immediately evident and not result in a successful install? (meaning it won't come up to haunt me later on after what looked like an OK install?) |
| 21:17.22 | david_ | interesting that visudo defaults to nano instead of vi |
| 21:22.56 | ryouma | nano is a good editor for newcomers |
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| 21:24.04 | ryouma | vidir also preusmably works with any editor |
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| 21:29.25 | jhutchins | ,v wayland |
| 21:29.26 | judd | No package named 'wayland' was found in amd64. |
| 21:29.43 | jhutchins | david_: Isn't in 10 under that name. |
| 21:30.01 | annadane | r3, if you're on windows, just copy the image using win32diskimager |
| 21:30.14 | annadane | r3, as far as i can gather unetbootin's problems are sporadic |
| 21:30.52 | jhutchins | !wayland |
| 21:30.52 | dpkg | Wayland is a display server protocol and implementation library, intended as a simpler replacement for the X Window System. Ask me about <weston>. http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ #wayland on irc.freenode.net. |
| 21:31.03 | jhutchins | ,v weston |
| 21:31.04 | judd | Package: weston on amd64 -- jessie: 1.6.0-2+b1; stretch: 1.12.0-3; buster: 3.0.0-1; sid: 3.0.0-1 |
| 21:31.25 | jhutchins | david_: There, jessie & stretch. |
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| 21:39.54 | david_ | What does "linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's/[^-]*-[^-]*-//')" mean? |
| 21:40.17 | david_ | I see linux-headers package in there, but all that other stuff doesn't make sense. |
| 21:43.19 | well_laid_lawn | that's called regex |
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| 21:45.33 | annadane | the symbols correspond to various character association |
| 21:46.03 | annadane | so for example * means "any character"... if i wanted to do a search for do* it would return dog, dot, dob, doc, and everything else |
| 21:46.27 | annadane | otherwise known as, yes, a regex |
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| 21:48.21 | beardy | What you describe is a glob though.. |
| 21:49.09 | beardy | david_: It means.. ok then. |
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| 22:00.36 | annadane | oh, right. |
| 22:00.38 | annadane | whoops. |
| 22:00.47 | annadane | they go hand in hand though |
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| 22:02.34 | jhutchins | davidebeatrici: run uname -r and see what you get. Then try the whole expression inside the parentheses and see what it looks like. |
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| 22:02.58 | davidebeatrici | Wrong nickname :) |
| 22:03.06 | jhutchins | Man, I'm not having much luck with my tab completions today, sorry davidebeatrici. |
| 22:03.12 | davidebeatrici | No problem :) |
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| 22:15.15 | r3 | annadane: thanks, I will try that the next time I do an install |
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| 22:16.15 | annadane | in fact it's definitely sporadic; the first time i used debian was with unetbootin and it didn't even allow me to select a desktop environment... other people have had their installations go fine... point being, don't use it |
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| 22:17.08 | r3 | hrm, where did the package ppstools go - I am so confused, I just installed it yesterday or the day before and now it can't find it on this new install - am I going crazy or am I missing something obvious |
| 22:17.17 | annadane | ,v ppstools |
| 22:17.18 | judd | No package named 'ppstools' was found in amd64. |
| 22:17.38 | annadane | r3, pps-tools |
| 22:18.00 | r3 | OH |
| 22:18.10 | r3 | whew. OK. |
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| 22:21.01 | r3 | THANK you annadane, I was going nuts |
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| 22:48.00 | EnchanterTim | I have installed exim4 on rackspace vps, can send/get mail from vps, get use imap to connect to server in sylpheed and get mail, however, when I try to send mail, I get SMTP authentication problem. When I telnet to my server on smtp port, I see STARTLS but not AUTH. When my mail client can get mail, but when sends it, it can't authenticate with SMTP exim. IMAP can. I wonder what I'm doing wrong. |
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| 22:54.38 | EnchanterTim | https://paste.debian.net/993190/ |
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| 23:09.30 | zeeble | Hello, anyone having problems with Firefox 56.0.2 on stable? Is kinda crashing on startup |
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| 23:12.55 | sanmarcos | is there a way to restore all default permissions on a debian system? |
| 23:14.03 | phogg | sanmarcos: even if you change back all filesystem permissions that may not be enough to do what you want. |
| 23:14.14 | phogg | but I guess it's a good place to start. |
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| 23:14.46 | sanmarcos | phogg: I need to undo a bastille hardening |
| 23:14.57 | phogg | Yes, you mentioned. |
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| 23:26.02 | sanmarcos | any good channels for strace usage? |
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| 23:31.44 | GJdan | I just got kicked out of my ssh session, timeout. |
| 23:32.20 | GJdan | and attempts to reconnect say "no route to host...." this is strange :( |
| 23:34.35 | GJdan | ah, yup, the machine has disappeared from the connected devices table on my router |
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| 23:48.09 | ryouma | hdd error |
| 23:48.10 | ryouma | perhaps |
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| 23:54.12 | GJdan | hm |
| 23:54.26 | GJdan | strange that that would happen when writing to a raid though |
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