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| 00:01.01 | ryouma | no clue |
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| 00:11.13 | EnchanterTim | https://paste.debian.net/993194/ <- here's what I get with swaks |
| 00:11.26 | EnchanterTim | https://paste.debian.net/993191/ Here are my current authenticators in exim4 |
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| 00:13.26 | EnchanterTim | Any exim4 admins here? |
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| 00:22.02 | EnchanterTim | so I accidentally deleted Error: Unsplit config selected and /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template missing ... exiting |
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| 01:57.29 | QR | hi all. i want to cd /dir but its protected and permission denied. sudo cd /dir returns command not found. what's the correct way else than sudo -i ? |
| 01:58.04 | gshrikant | I'm not sure if this is the right channel for this but here goes: while trying to dual-boot OpenBSD along my Debian + Windows install, I tried to abort the fdisk procedure to read the manual first but I seem to have made a typo for it overwrote my partition table (GPT) and I can't boot into either OS anymore. |
| 01:58.11 | gshrikant | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.23 | gshrikant | Trying 'ls (hd1,gpt4)' says that the disk is UFS2 which is weird because I never did reach that step in the installer (and the no. of partitions is same, which is weird). |
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| 01:59.44 | gshrikant | Is there a way I can recover from this? I'm downloading a live image as I write. |
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| 02:03.50 | vegenaise | are there other .deb installation programs on debian aside from gdebi? |
| 02:04.30 | vegenaise | trying to install teamviewer on my system which on their website says is 32bit/64bit multiarch (whatever that means) |
| 02:05.07 | vegenaise | however, the file is i386, and gdebi says its the wrong architecture and wont allow me to install it |
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| 02:06.36 | Droid2Debian | vegenaise, yeah ther's apt or dpkg which both require sudo or direct root access the later of which does not do dependency checking |
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| 02:07.57 | vegenaise | so if i do it from the command line from within the folder containing the .deb file, i'd "sudo apt-get install teamviewer.blahblah.deb"? |
| 02:08.47 | vegenaise | or, sudo dpkg teamviewer.blahblah.deb, again from the terminal in the relevant folder? |
| 02:09.21 | Droid2Debian | sudo dpkg -i .deb |
| 02:10.01 | Droid2Debian | Or synaptc package manager |
| 02:10.08 | vegenaise | if you couldnt tell im very much a linux noob, so just so i can understand a bit more and maybe learn something, could you tell me what that -i is for? |
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| 02:10.54 | vegenaise | :( |
| 02:11.04 | vegenaise | "dpkg: error processing archive teamviewer_12.0.85001_i386.deb (--install): |
| 02:11.04 | vegenaise | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.33 | debsan | vegenaise, what version of debian are you using ? |
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| 02:13.21 | vegenaise | oldstable, jessie |
| 02:13.28 | debsan | vegenaise, look here for the 64bit version: https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Knowledge-Base/How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution/ta-p/4351 |
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| 02:14.37 | vegenaise | debsan, oh so i can just have dpkg add support for i386 and then go from there? |
| 02:15.33 | debsan | vegenaise, well yes, or you can just try the *amd64.deb |
| 02:16.27 | vegenaise | debsan, oh, i did not see that on the page you linked |
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| 02:16.50 | vegenaise | found it! |
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| 02:17.14 | debsan | vegenaise, is there. I do not remeber jessie is debian 6 or 7 |
| 02:17.20 | Devastator | 7 |
| 02:17.28 | Devastator | squeeze is 8 |
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| 02:17.41 | Devastator | opss |
| 02:17.43 | vegenaise | nope |
| 02:17.44 | vegenaise | 8 |
| 02:17.46 | Devastator | jessie is 8 |
| 02:17.49 | Devastator | squeeze is 7 hehe |
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| 02:18.02 | debsan | lol |
| 02:18.16 | Devastator | 6 is etch iirc |
| 02:18.20 | pfred1 | no Wheezy is 7 |
| 02:18.24 | debsan | I'm not the only one confused |
| 02:18.26 | Devastator | my god |
| 02:18.39 | pfred1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:18.43 | Devastator | squeeze is 6 then? hehe |
| 02:18.56 | debsan | If prefer testing and sid :) |
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| 02:19.46 | debsan | vegenaise, so probably you would need to add the architecture |
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| 02:21.17 | vegenaise | i did, seems the package is dependent on a lot of things which i dont have |
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| 02:22.21 | vegenaise | can someone remind me of the site where i can freely paste outputs to share? |
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| 02:24.17 | steelcowboy | Hello! I'm trying to configure Debian for Xen Dom0. My issue is that I'm not using GRUB, I'm using systemd-boot, so I'm not sure how to boot Xen |
| 02:24.20 | pfred1 | https://paste.debian.net/ |
| 02:24.40 | debsan | https://paste.debian.net/ |
| 02:24.46 | pfred1 | jynx! |
| 02:25.01 | vegenaise | https://pastebin.com/PtBvKeKV |
| 02:25.16 | vegenaise | ooh, i'll use the debian one next time. |
| 02:25.32 | pfred1 | lots of folks are down on pastebin |
| 02:25.37 | steelcowboy | In /boot I see xen-4.8-amd64.efi and xen-4.8-amd64.gz, I'm not sure which I want to set as a kernel and what options to pass. Can anyone help? |
| 02:25.46 | vegenaise | so, do i need to go in and try and dl and install every one of those packages to get that to work? |
| 02:26.15 | vegenaise | also, someone recommended alien and using one of the rpm packages. would that be a better idea? |
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| 02:26.43 | pfred1 | vegenaise what are you trying to do? |
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| 02:27.48 | vegenaise | install teamviewer. the i386 package with dpkg gave me the previous unsatisfied dependents |
| 02:28.30 | pfred1 | there seems to be a deb for it |
| 02:28.39 | debsan | vegenaise, you can try with gdebi now. It would install those dependencies |
| 02:29.22 | pfred1 | this stuff sounds ike the security hole of the century to me |
| 02:30.09 | vegenaise | actually, using the gdebi gui with the amd64 package told me i had broken dependencies, i did apt-get install -f to fix it, then used dpkg to install the i386 package, and it worked! |
| 02:30.18 | vegenaise | thanks for all your help everyone :) |
| 02:30.25 | pfred1 | sweet |
| 02:30.47 | pfred1 | the NSA thanks you for installing their backdoor on your system |
| 02:31.55 | EnchanterTim | No help with exim...? |
| 02:31.57 | EnchanterTim | sigh. |
| 02:32.34 | pfred1 | EnchanterTim why does exim sound so familiar? |
| 02:33.06 | pfred1 | oh no not a MTA! |
| 02:33.19 | EnchanterTim | I'm in a really really really really bad mood. |
| 02:33.28 | EnchanterTim | Anger, sadness, depression, fury, rage... |
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| 02:33.34 | pfred1 | that's how i get with MTAs too |
| 02:33.43 | EnchanterTim | Not because of MTA |
| 02:33.48 | EnchanterTim | Other stuff. |
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| 02:34.09 | EnchanterTim | I'm trying to bury my head into exim4 config and finish my server setup to get away from those ridiculous emotions. |
| 02:34.14 | pfred1 | well trying to configure a MTA probably won't cheer you up any |
| 02:34.36 | EnchanterTim | The only reason people fail at MTA is that they don't understand it. |
| 02:34.57 | pfred1 | yeah well I got brutal Doom running over here so take that! |
| 02:34.59 | EnchanterTim | Understanding takes a lot of reading, experimenting and patience. |
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| 02:35.14 | EnchanterTim | I play Project Brutality |
| 02:35.23 | EnchanterTim | even more mod on doom brutal |
| 02:36.28 | pfred1 | I still can't get sound in gzdoom though but zandronum works |
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| 02:36.58 | pfred1 | the lead dev of gzdoom is a wintard |
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| 02:38.50 | EnchanterTim | I can send/get recieve from my vps. I send from gmail to my vps/exim4. I installed dovecot and setup imap. I can connect my sylpheed client to it, and get my mail. I am having trouble with SMTP authentication in mail clients |
| 02:38.56 | EnchanterTim | can't seem to setup proper smtp auth |
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| 03:10.39 | dvs | I haven't used one of those in years! |
| 03:10.57 | nezZario | well usb would be okay it's for a desktop though |
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| 03:19.04 | nezZario | i mean i guess i could just buy this thinkpenguin stuff |
| 03:19.13 | nezZario | but surely they have to be just re-branded chips ? |
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| 05:09.28 | rabies | for some reason when im using apt now its download dpkg files that cannot be read...also apt-get update is spitting out errors |
| 05:09.49 | rabies | Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?) |
| 05:10.08 | annadane | !bat |
| 05:10.08 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 05:10.14 | rabies | it worked like...2 hours ago |
| 05:10.23 | annadane | it's also possible you need to change mirrors |
| 05:10.29 | rabies | im using http.us.debian.org |
| 05:10.43 | annadane | yeah, try deb.debian.org and see if it works |
| 05:11.00 | rabies | i tried a berkeley one too, it didnt work, same error |
| 05:11.03 | rabies | ill paste it |
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| 05:11.20 | rabies | annadane, http://paste.debian.net/993201/ |
| 05:11.57 | rabies | http://paste.debian.net/993202/ |
| 05:12.20 | rabies | thats the command and apt-cache policy output |
| 05:13.01 | rabies | maybe my hard drive died? |
| 05:13.56 | rabies | looks pretty straightforward...i dont know what changed... |
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| 05:19.00 | rabies | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:19.02 | rabies | bizzare |
| 05:26.43 | rabies | oh...its IMA |
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| 05:29.10 | annadane | ? |
| 05:30.14 | rabies | IMA is blocking apt, lol |
| 05:30.29 | EleanorEllis | I want to check I am verifying an iso correctly. sha512sum -c SHA512SUMS 2> /dev/null | grep debian debian-9.2.1-amd64-DVD-1.iso returns Binary file debian-9.2.1-amd64-DVD-1.iso matches |
| 05:31.02 | annadane | what is IMA? |
| 05:31.30 | rabies | integrity measurement architecture |
| 05:31.32 | rabies | anyway, thanks |
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| 06:38.00 | cyberfingers | Hi, I'm getting the following error msg, "SASL authentication failed; cannot authenticate to server smtp.office365.com[191.232.97.146]: no mechanism available" do you have an suggestions to resolve this problem? |
| 06:39.57 | SwedeMike | cyberfingers: what are you trying to do? |
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| 06:40.47 | cyberfingers | Hi SwedenMike, I'm trying to test Postfix. |
| 06:41.18 | cyberfingers | When I relay through Office365 from the command line I get the above error message. |
| 06:41.49 | SwedeMike | cyberfingers: and do you have an Office365 account that you're trying to authenticate your relaying with? |
| 06:42.19 | cyberfingers | Yes - echo "This is a test body" | mail -s "Relay Test Email" david@cyberfingers.net -a "FROM:dbritton@factwellsolutions.com" |
| 06:43.12 | SwedeMike | cyberfingers: office365 doesn't allow relaying through it unless you provide a username/password authentication combination when you're connecting to it. |
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| 06:44.06 | EleanorEllis | Why does the current installer format the disk with ext2 instead of ext4 when setting up encrypted LVM? |
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| 06:44.48 | cyberfingers | I've used some instructions to try and get it to work. https://gordan.jandreoski.me/how-to-configure-postfix-relay-to-office365-on-ubuntu-14-04/ |
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| 06:48.46 | cyberfingers | SwedenMike, any other recommendation you have for getting system to send out email. I thought relaying it would work, but it's not so easy to setup. |
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| 06:50.33 | SwedeMike | cyberfingers: well, that guide looks like it's the right thing. You need to use port 587, but you also need a username/password which it looks like it does provide via "[smtp.office365.com]:587 username@yourdomain:office365password". I would recommend you to go to #postfix instead to get help there. Provide the error messages and that you're using the guide you pasted link to. |
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| 06:51.36 | cyberfingers | will do thanks :) |
| 06:52.22 | Delf | I'm having strange problems. There is a lingering Debian-gdm session after I have logged in and it doesn't show any Display= value when using "loginctl show-session -p Display <session id>". |
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| 07:24.08 | cyberfingers | SwedenMike GOT IT WORKING! thanks :) |
| 07:24.29 | sweb | how can i force proces run in background '/bin/bash myscript.sh &' Exit not going to background ... cron also not work |
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| 07:54.28 | jscoder | I am having insane "overhead" (IOWAIT) issues using EXT4 + AES-XTS and I'm wondering if there is any way to run it down short of doing extensive benchmarking with various different setups |
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| 07:58.45 | jscoder | I just let mplayer -vo jpeg run on a decent length (about 50min) video file and it dumped about 75000 or so images and it took over 13 hours. Just opening geeqie to that directory takes several minutes before it can even show the first image. This is the simplest visual example I've been able to find that clearly demonstrates the degree of lag |
| 08:00.03 | bipul | Does anyone help me to understand, how this backups are done at the backend? Full backup Incremental backup and differential backup |
| 08:00.06 | bipul | ? |
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| 08:01.59 | jscoder | bipul: I suspect English isn't your first language and what you are asking is unclear. Backups are typically done by first making an archive of all files, then updated using hashes to compare changes to know what to incrementally backup |
| 08:03.13 | bipul | jscoder, Yes english is not my native language. Between do you have any link? or tutorial where i can perform this backup on my linux machine? |
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| 08:04.44 | bipul | jscoder, As you said "then updated using hashes to compare changes" How this happens? Any real time example? I would be very thankful to you. |
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| 08:06.02 | jscoder | bipul: hashing is a mathematical digest of data.. for example echo "foo" | md5sum; echo "Foo" | md5sum |
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| 08:06.48 | jscoder | bipul: even the slightest change in data produces a completly different hash, which allows one to know the file has been modified and in this case, that it needs to be backed up |
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| 08:08.02 | bipul | jscoder, Thank you very much. |
| 08:08.13 | bipul | I would love to dig more into this area. |
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| 08:21.11 | EleanorEllis | Does full disk encryption slow down the computer much? |
| 08:21.55 | SwedeMike | EleanorEllis: not really. |
| 08:22.14 | SwedeMike | EleanorEllis: depends on CPU etc, but with a normal desktop CPU from the past 5-10 years, it's no problem. |
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| 08:22.31 | EleanorEllis | SwedeMike: I am talking about laptops which may be older than that |
| 08:23.07 | SwedeMike | EleanorEllis: well, with a 10-15 year old laptop or even netbook, then definitely the added crypto workload might affect things. |
| 08:23.21 | EleanorEllis | SwedeMike: Thanks |
| 08:23.59 | mavhq | how could I find out if this patch is included in my standard debian kernal? https://kernel.googlesource.com/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable/+/ca369d51b3e1649be4a72addd6d6a168cfb3f537 and Linux 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.51-1 (2017-09-28) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 08:29.04 | SwedeMike | mavhq: download the debian kernel source package and compare its contents with the diffs in that patch? |
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| 08:32.00 | __nils__ | hi I just found an interesting situation. I tried to install the package calibre-bin (requested by calibre) via apt but calibre-bin depends von qtbase-abi-5-9-0 (which is listed as virtual package) but there is no installation candidate for this and the "real" package provided by qtbase-... is installed. Is this a "real" bug or could this be anything on my local system? |
| 08:32.38 | abff | ,v qtbase-abi |
| 08:32.39 | judd | No package named 'qtbase-abi' was found in amd64. |
| 08:32.55 | __nils__ | so the dependancies ARE in deed wrong? |
| 08:33.30 | vutral | doesnt qtbase provide the abi ? |
| 08:33.42 | abff | .v libqt5core5a |
| 08:33.49 | abff | ,v libqt5core5a |
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| 08:33.50 | judd | Package: libqt5core5a on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u1~bpo70+1; jessie: 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u2; stretch: 5.7.1+dfsg-3+b1; buster: 5.9.1+dfsg-9; sid: 5.9.2+dfsg-4 |
| 08:34.02 | __nils__ | thats what the debian-page says... but as described libqt5core5a is installed |
| 08:34.15 | abff | what version? |
| 08:34.29 | __nils__ | 5.9.2+dfsg-4 |
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| 08:36.01 | abff | on stretch? |
| 08:36.05 | __nils__ | buster |
| 08:36.21 | abff | are you sure it's not sid? |
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| 08:36.32 | __nils__ | oh sorry, yes |
| 08:36.35 | __nils__ | sid |
| 08:36.49 | annadane | !debian-next |
| 08:36.49 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 08:37.08 | __nils__ | ah ok, thanks will try there |
| 08:37.12 | abff | eyeroll |
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| 08:38.10 | __nils__ | hmm maybe /join #debian-next should not forward to #debian... |
| 08:38.24 | abff | it's on a different network |
| 08:38.34 | abff | :P |
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| 08:39.11 | __nils__ | still .. did /join #debian-next and thought i am there... well i am not... |
| 08:39.43 | abff | yeah you need to /connect to irc.oftc.net (because for some reason we're not allow to talk about "unstable" debian here |
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| 08:40.05 | __nils__ | yep, just did... thanks |
| 08:40.05 | vutral | there is an unstable debian? wtf ^^ |
| 08:40.14 | vutral | :D |
| 08:40.24 | __nils__ | unstable is the most senseless title for sid :) |
| 08:40.45 | vutral | i thought sid is ages old ^^ |
| 08:40.48 | annadane | https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.release-lifecycle.html |
| 08:41.14 | abff | vutral you could never tell |
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| 09:02.39 | ARCHI | hi all |
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| 09:09.55 | cybrNaut | the aptitude GUI tells me it will not upgrade tzdata because I've pinned it to the current version (it's lying, i have not). Then if I use the commandline instead ("aptitude upgrade") it simply upgrades tzdata w/out issue |
| 09:10.04 | cybrNaut | is that a bug I should report? |
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| 09:12.01 | n4dir | !hold |
| 09:12.01 | dpkg | hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771 (fixed in stretch). See also <hold list>, <unhold>. |
| 09:12.19 | n4dir | i wouldn't bet, but i think that is the prefered method to not upgrade a certain package. |
| 09:13.30 | n4dir | oh, i think i misunderstood you. aptitude GUI tells you something you didn't do ? |
| 09:13.45 | hiya | I am having issues with Youtube or any other video streaming on Firefox and Chromium both, the screen that particular tab freezes and starts to look as if I am shaking that tab |
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| 09:43.58 | EleanorEllis | Debian installer hangs 36% of the way through "Starting up the partitioner" any ideas? I have verified the iso on the USB stick. The machine is fairly old, an Acer Aspire 9301AWSMi with a 2GHz AMD Turion (64 bit) and 1GB of RAM. I am not using the graphical installer.On previous attempts I have got as far as setting up LVM but now it seems to hang at the same point each time |
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| 09:49.30 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: try pressing alt+left or alt+f2 to get to another console, press enter to activate it, and check dmesg |
| 09:49.40 | RoyK | iirc one of the consoles should have the log as well |
| 09:49.51 | RoyK | alt+left/right moves between the consoles |
| 09:50.36 | cybrNaut | EleanorEllis: i have no idea, but maybe you can partition and mkfs before starting the installer, and then try skipping the partitioning when you run the installer -- follow RoyK's advice first though |
| 09:50.51 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: What am I looking for in dmesg? It scrolls a lot of information |
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| 09:51.36 | RoyK | it's a bit hard if you haven't read kernel logs before |
| 09:51.55 | RoyK | do you have anything on the target drive that you need? |
| 09:52.31 | EleanorEllis | No |
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| 09:55.42 | noob1 | hi, I recently switched from Arch to Debian, and I have a few questions |
| 09:56.01 | noob1 | What is the best resource to learn to do things the debian way |
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| 09:56.41 | noob1 | The debian wiki is somewhat lacking, and I find myself referring the archwiki quite often |
| 09:57.07 | noob1 | Would arch recommendations work on debian, on things like systemd |
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| 10:05.58 | cybrNaut | when a poorly maintained package risks causing embarrassment for Debian, where should it be reported so that it may be considered for removal from official repos? |
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| 10:10.11 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: then you can reset what's there by doing 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1M count=1k' - replace X with the correct character for the drive. try 'cat /proc/partitions' to see what's available. Keep in mind that dd doesn't ask if you're sure, so if you give it the wrong device, it will happily overwrite that with zeros regardless of what's there |
| 10:10.21 | bazhang | cybrNaut, the bugtracker |
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| 10:13.41 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: Thanks |
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| 10:14.54 | cybrNaut | bazhang: i figured that much.. but I don't know which "package" I would report it against |
| 10:15.34 | bazhang | cybrNaut, which one supposedly is an embarrassment |
| 10:15.51 | cybrNaut | mixmaster |
| 10:16.15 | bazhang | ,v mixmaster |
| 10:16.16 | judd | Package: mixmaster on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.0.0-6; jessie: 3.0.0-7; stretch: 3.0.0-8.1; buster: 3.0.0-10; sid: 3.0.0-10 |
| 10:16.39 | bazhang | against that, which ever you are on |
| 10:16.42 | cybrNaut | obviously it doesn't make sense to report it as a report on the mixmaster package, b/c that's the package that's embarrassing debian |
| 10:17.14 | cybrNaut | the package maintainer has deliberately put the package into a broken state |
| 10:17.50 | bazhang | cybrNaut, thats hard to credit, filing a bug is the thing to do |
| 10:18.15 | cybrNaut | there's already a bug reported, and treated as WONTFIX |
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| 10:18.42 | bazhang | cybrNaut, well complaining about it here wont change things |
| 10:18.54 | cybrNaut | when a package maintainer is causing a problem, there's no recourse in that package |
| 10:19.08 | cybrNaut | bazhang: i don't expect to /change things/ here. I'm here for information |
| 10:19.22 | bazhang | cybrNaut, the mailings list is where you should complain |
| 10:19.28 | cybrNaut | i seem to recall a package where these things are handled, but forgot the name |
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| 10:38.43 | pinuzzu | !list |
| 10:38.43 | dpkg | pinuzzu: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
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| 10:43.00 | snadge | this is an honest question that i'm hoping starts a religious war.. but do i dist upgrade a jessie system to stretch? or back it up, and reinstall it |
| 10:43.55 | snadge | in the topic.. d'oh.. apologies :p |
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| 10:44.12 | snadge | as the third thing no less |
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| 10:53.58 | jelly | cybrNaut: what's the bug number? |
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| 10:56.56 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: any luck? |
| 10:58.00 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: Not yet. Someone else suggested trying the graphic installer: then it gets as far as detecting disks and then hangs |
| 10:58.27 | EleanorEllis | Or rather, it doesn't complete detecting disks |
| 11:00.00 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: did you find the disk(s) in /proc/partitions on the console? |
| 11:00.31 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: that is - if you start in a live session, you should have all the tools needed there to look for them |
| 11:01.38 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: Haven't tried that yet - been trying to get another machine to boot from USB - unfortunately, it has a broken screen and the BIOS utility doesn't fire up the external monitor! I might have to accept these two laptops are just past it! |
| 11:02.20 | jelly | cybrNaut: you want to first report a rc-level severity report for the affected package and allow time for a fix |
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| 11:02.50 | cybrNaut | jelly: 824827 |
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| 11:06.03 | jelly | cybrNaut: looks like an upstream issue more than just debian's maintainer frivolity |
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| 11:06.19 | jelly | cybrNaut: did upstream fix it? |
| 11:06.46 | cybrNaut | jelly: that's quite likely, but nonetheless i presume debian has a quality standard for packages that are in the debian repo |
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| 11:07.13 | cybrNaut | i don't know what's going on upstream.. i did hear a rumor about some battle being fought over this |
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| 11:07.58 | cybrNaut | regardless of which side ppl take, the package is in a poor state.. functions less than half the time |
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| 11:09.54 | cybrNaut | the dispute (as I understand it) is that 1k public keys are no longer considered secure (quantum computing makes 1k pubkeys sufficiently weak), so nodes have migrated to 4k keys. But only 1k keys are "standard", and mixmaster developers refuse to depart from the standard. |
| 11:10.56 | cybrNaut | but in the end, the mixmaster app constructs messages that attempt to traverse incompatible nodes, and they are silently dropped |
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| 11:11.17 | jelly | cybrNaut: if you think a piece of software is completely unusable, file a rc-level Severity bug against it; you may come to an agreement with maintainer and get them to request a removal themselves |
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| 11:12.25 | cybrNaut | is rc-level the "important" level? that's the highest that the /reportbug/ tool allows |
| 11:12.36 | jelly | !severity |
| 11:12.37 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, severity is http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control#severity |
| 11:13.50 | cybrNaut | thanks |
| 11:13.51 | jelly | you may want something like grave -- makes the package in question unusable or mostly so, or causes data loss |
| 11:14.01 | jelly | https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities |
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| 11:15.37 | cybrNaut | can i continue to post on a closed bug? |
| 11:16.03 | jelly | you could reopen it and raise severity |
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| 11:16.23 | jelly | and explain the data loss and usability |
| 11:16.25 | cybrNaut | right, i just wasn't sure if reopening is necessary |
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| 11:17.31 | cybrNaut | reopening feels kind of like i'm saying "get to work!" |
| 11:17.47 | cybrNaut | i'm just a humble user.. or at least i try to be humble |
| 11:17.53 | jelly | which software do the other nodes, using incompatible crypto, use? |
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| 11:18.23 | cybrNaut | i don't recall what it's called, but there's another tool, i think it's a windows tool |
| 11:18.58 | jelly | filing a RC-level bug often sounds like that; if the world moved on and the piece of software in Debian is incompatible, perhaps debian could acknowledge that |
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| 11:19.16 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: I am trying zeroing the drive. It's taking a long time, despite it only being an 80GB drive, but then it is an old machine |
| 11:20.04 | cybrNaut | jelly: i did send a report to sponsorship-requests, which is normally asking for inclusion. But it seems like the most fitting project to decommission something as well |
| 11:20.35 | cybrNaut | (i say "send", but i used mixmaster, so there's about a 50% chance that it will not appear) |
| 11:20.54 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: you don't need to zero the whole drive |
| 11:21.24 | jelly | lol |
| 11:21.29 | nicocool | Hey ! I followed the OpenVPN pag on the debian wiki. Right now both client and server display "Initialization Sequence Completed". Is there an easy, reversible way to direct my client's trafic through my server at this point, or do I need to go full config ? I'm asking because I really just need to try to log to a website once using my client's coo |
| 11:21.29 | nicocool | kies and that's it, I don't need a VPN set up for the long run. |
| 11:23.14 | jelly | cybrNaut: there's RoQA but that is usually done by the maintainer or other DD |
| 11:23.17 | jelly | !roqa |
| 11:23.17 | dpkg | Request of <QA> (ROQA) is a term used for <ftpmaster> removals, i.e. removing packages from the Debian archive. Ask me about <removals>. |
| 11:24.05 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: How much of it do I need to zero? |
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| 11:27.52 | RoyK | a ew megs |
| 11:27.53 | cybrNaut | well in principle i would hope they accept removal requests automatically if the request is signed by the maintainer, and debate about it otherwise |
| 11:27.58 | RoyK | a few megs |
| 11:28.06 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: what was he command you ran? |
| 11:28.08 | cybrNaut | anyway, i'll try it out |
| 11:28.52 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M count =1k |
| 11:29.12 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: check iostat 2 |
| 11:29.28 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: ? |
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| 11:29.54 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: bs=1M count=1k (without more spaces) means blocksize one megabyte and block count 1024, meaning 1GB in total - shouldn1't take that long |
| 11:30.13 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: if this is on a live thing connected to the internet, try to pastebin dmesg -T |
| 11:30.16 | RoyK | that is |
| 11:30.19 | RoyK | dmesg -T | pastebinit |
| 11:30.21 | RoyK | !pastebinit |
| 11:30.21 | dpkg | A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
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| 11:31.58 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: There is no pastebinit installed |
| 11:32.53 | RoyK | apt install pastebinit |
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| 11:36.26 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: apt: not found |
| 11:37.55 | RoyK | apt-get install pastebinit |
| 11:37.57 | RoyK | then |
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| 11:38.34 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: apt-get: not found |
| 11:38.49 | RoyK | eh? is this debian? |
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| 11:38.52 | RoyK | that is |
| 11:39.01 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: are you on a live thing? |
| 11:39.13 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: it's the debian install iso, not a live cd |
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| 11:39.23 | EleanorEllis | dvd 1 I mean |
| 11:39.30 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: ok - better try with a live cd, then |
| 11:39.36 | RoyK | I thought dvd 1 supported live |
| 11:39.43 | EleanorEllis | ok |
| 11:40.20 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: That will take a while as I need to download the live iso |
| 11:40.39 | RoyK | I see |
| 11:40.50 | RoyK | but do you see any I/O errors in dmesg? |
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| 11:44.46 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: http://paste.debian.net/993226/ <-- from my home server - looks like a drive is having a stomachache |
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| 11:50.30 | EleanorEllis | RoyK: I don't see any errors |
| 11:51.10 | EleanorEllis | I will try again from the live iso once it has downloaded. Looks like over an hour |
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| 11:55.20 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: ok - good luck |
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| 11:55.49 | RoyK | EleanorEllis: what sort of network access do you have? seems a bit slow |
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| 11:58.59 | James123 | Does anyone know if it is possible to connect to a specific workspace using vnc client? |
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| 12:02.41 | fxb | Hi. Trying to find which packages I need to install to enable WebGL in Firefox 57 (it looks like I am running Mesa 13.0.6 with an Intel integrated HD 5500). Kind of confused as to what my options are? |
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| 12:17.52 | Droid_Dolphin_Wa | Buster is working great, as mater of fact i was even able to get an oracle VM of NetBSD I686 open and running yesterday morning |
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| 12:21.49 | sn0wmonster | newb question: what is the operator used to pipe data into another command? |
| 12:22.04 | sn0wmonster | like i want t oset my MAC address to a random one generated with openssl rand -hex 6 | sed 's/\(..\)/\1:/g; s/.$//' |
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| 12:22.45 | sn0wmonster | so i'd want to use 'sudo ifconfig en0 ' and then pipe the info frmo 'openssl rand -hex 6 | sed 's/\(..\)/\1:/g; s/.$//' |
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| 12:23.20 | at0m | sn0wmonster: fun exercise, but could also just run macchanger en0 |
| 12:23.27 | namoamitabuddha | Hello, all. |
| 12:23.31 | jelly | sn0wmonster: you probably don't want to pipe, but just expand the output of that command |
| 12:23.53 | jelly | sn0wmonster: echo sudo ifconfig en0 "$(openssl rand -hex 6 | sed 's/\(..\)/\1:/g; s/.$//')" |
| 12:24.21 | namoamitabuddha | How can I diagnose the cause of the freezing while suspending? |
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| 12:25.12 | sn0wmonster | jelly, oh cool |
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| 12:25.25 | sn0wmonster | at0m, does macchanger just randomize it? |
| 12:25.45 | sn0wmonster | is that smoething available in most systems or just Debian? |
| 12:26.19 | at0m | sn0wmonster: macchanger has different options. choose manufacturer, totally random, etc |
| 12:26.26 | sn0wmonster | at0m nice! |
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| 12:26.54 | sn0wmonster | jelly, if i wanted to confirm if the script actually worked, is there a way i could capture the current MAC address, then generate the new one, then validate it against the old one to prove it actually changed, |
| 12:26.57 | sn0wmonster | all from the shell? |
| 12:27.26 | jelly | sn0wmonster: I have no idea how you could confirm it running from the same machine |
| 12:27.29 | Droid_Dolphin_Wa | Is jessie considered a lagacy release theese days , I remmber jessie from my indoctronation into the FOSS community back in my high school days in NewJersey, which BEQ where hell for me |
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| 12:27.38 | sn0wmonster | i mean besides running ifconfig |
| 12:27.42 | sn0wmonster | because that would show the difference |
| 12:28.05 | jelly | sn0wmonster: only your switch, router or a machine in the same network segment will see the actual used mac address |
| 12:28.09 | sn0wmonster | i guess i understand my actual question now and the answer is complicated |
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| 12:28.31 | sn0wmonster | because i'd want to extract the MAC address from a specific adapter/interface from ifconfig |
| 12:28.40 | sn0wmonster | and then do it again after processing and compare the two |
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| 12:29.02 | jelly | Droid_Dolphin_Wa: debian 9 (stretch) is the current stable release; debian 8 (jessie) is now oldstable, the previous release |
| 12:29.04 | sn0wmonster | that may be more than a shell script could do with confidence |
| 12:29.13 | Droid_Dolphin_Wa | Any one know if the pushed up any updated packages / system fixes or patches for Buster? |
| 12:29.28 | Droid_Dolphin_Wa | late last night or early this morning? |
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| 12:29.39 | jelly | Droid_Dolphin_Wa: ask in the right channel. |
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| 12:29.42 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 12:29.42 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 12:29.53 | themill | Droid_Dolphin_Wa: buster changes every 6 hours. Vague questions get vague answers. |
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| 12:51.11 | Droid2Debian | I just installed lastnights batch of patches on recently deployed Buster inplace upgrade |
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| 12:53.42 | Droid2Debian | I guess jessie is beingphased out |
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| 13:00.12 | dvs | Droid2Debian, yes, jessie is oldstable now. |
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| 13:00.41 | Droid2Debian | dvs: So when is Jessie going to be eoled? |
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| 13:01.24 | dvs | !stretch |
| 13:01.24 | dpkg | Stretch is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 9, released 2017-06-17. "Stretch" is the rubber octopus in Toy Story 3, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch . Ask me about <install stretch>, <release notes>, <jessie->stretch>. |
| 13:01.50 | dvs | Droid2Debian, soon after next June |
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| 13:14.49 | jelly | Droid2Debian: but also, LTS will take over with limited support to cover five years of lifetime for jessie. |
| 13:14.55 | jelly | !jessie-lts |
| 13:14.55 | dpkg | Security support for Debian 8 "jessie" from the Debian Security Team should end around 2018-05. The amd64, i386, armel and armhf architectures receive additional long term support (<LTS>) via <jessie/updates> until around 2020 for a 5 year lifetime total. See https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information |
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| 13:15.49 | jelly | dpkg, jessie-lts =~ s/receive/will receive/ |
| 13:15.50 | dpkg | jelly: OK |
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| 13:19.37 | hyper_ch | hi there, I have entries like this in my auth.log - https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/raw/8888828d --> what service did add those and why isn't it an IP address? |
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| 13:24.47 | tremon | hyper_ch: that can be any remote shell service: telnet, rlogin, dropbearssh, maybe others. check for corresponding messages in /var/log/daeon.log or /var/log/messages |
| 13:25.01 | tremon | it's probably not openssh because that would log more information to auth.log |
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| 13:35.02 | necrose99 | anyone experianced with lighthttp so far i can seem to get it to open a dir |
| 13:35.25 | necrose99 | can't if configured . |
| 13:37.01 | RoyK | necrose99: not sure why anyone would use lighthttp |
| 13:37.12 | RoyK | it was nice 15 years ago |
| 13:37.26 | RoyK | better use nginx if you want a slim webserver |
| 13:37.36 | necrose99 | cady seems another |
| 13:38.03 | RoyK | don't know that one, but nginx is rock solid and fast |
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| 13:38.52 | necrose99 | however it seems to break on arm64 , trying to expose chroot /packages... |
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| 13:41.00 | necrose99 | i've tried to follow wiki guides and so far frustrating , gentoo's web-app-config has spoiled me... however deb9-arm64 is what they have |
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| 13:43.57 | RoyK | necrose99: just use nginx |
| 13:44.07 | necrose99 | royk caddy servers written in go so it'll run nearly on anything. has web-dav etc. |
| 13:44.13 | RoyK | necrose99: that is, what do you want to use this for? |
| 13:44.30 | RoyK | I beleieve nginx has webdav now |
| 13:44.47 | necrose99 | mainly exposing the tinerbox ... packages to downlad |
| 13:44.49 | RoyK | I still use apache or a bunch of stuff |
| 13:45.04 | RoyK | perhaps I'm just lazy |
| 13:45.06 | necrose99 | its an arm64 2gig instance |
| 13:45.21 | RoyK | apache should do on that |
| 13:45.31 | necrose99 | more of a pest |
| 13:45.36 | RoyK | not really |
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| 13:45.55 | RoyK | but lighttpd is old and not very good |
| 13:46.30 | RoyK | http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_dav_module.html |
| 13:46.35 | CYBER_Venom | hi |
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| 13:46.44 | RoyK | CYBER_Venom: hi |
| 13:48.12 | CYBER_Venom | hi can you help me |
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| 13:48.24 | CYBER_Venom | royK |
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| 13:49.12 | RoyK | !ask | CYBER_Venom |
| 13:49.29 | CYBER_Venom | so my kali is hanging like hell |
| 13:49.36 | CYBER_Venom | i use persistence |
| 13:49.38 | RoyK | !kali |
| 13:49.38 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
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| 13:50.34 | CYBER_Venom | i am having issues |
| 13:50.36 | CYBER_Venom | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:50.49 | RoyK | !identify |
| 13:50.54 | RoyK | well |
| 13:51.00 | CYBER_Venom | how to identify |
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| 13:51.10 | CYBER_Venom | you mean register |
| 13:51.17 | RoyK | CYBER_Venom: try /q nickserv |
| 13:51.19 | RoyK | CYBER_Venom: and help |
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| 13:51.35 | RoyK | CYBER_Venom: not hard |
| 13:52.09 | cnnx | i enabled a samba share folder on debian and it works from another debian box using samba-client but when i try to add a network location from windows10 it timesout and doesnt work |
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| 13:54.00 | CYBER_Venom | royk i cant bypass that pblm |
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| 13:57.39 | petn-randall | CYBER_Venom: Ask in #freenode for support, we can't help you. |
| 13:57.41 | RoyK | CYBER_Venom: first register with nickserv, then identify with nickserv, and it should be fine |
| 13:57.55 | RoyK | has said enough |
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| 13:58.33 | oncaoncaonca | where do I ask questions about raspbian on the pi 3 with a touch screen? |
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| 13:58.48 | oncaoncaonca | I can't set the local |
| 13:58.54 | oncaoncaonca | and keymap |
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| 13:59.10 | oncaoncaonca | despite there is a configuration front end for it |
| 13:59.20 | petn-randall | !raspbian |
| 13:59.20 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 13:59.28 | petn-randall | oncaoncaonca: Try their channel ^^^ |
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| 14:03.37 | woshty | Why is the taskd config file present in /etc/taskd and /var/lib/taskd? |
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| 14:08.22 | benlue | so my jenkins is running behind Cloudflare SSL Proxy |
| 14:08.22 | petn-randall | woshty: Isn't it a symlink? |
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| 14:09.06 | benlue | https://jenkins.benlue.ovh/ |
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| 14:10.15 | benlue | any facing with android rom build? |
| 14:11.30 | benlue | need build for any devices with different scm |
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| 14:13.05 | petn-randall | benlue: How is this related to Debian? |
| 14:13.10 | benlue | its better to work with ws() in pipeline? |
| 14:13.42 | benlue | petn-randall, ? |
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| 14:14.18 | Mentol | dhcpd is not sending the gateway (to dhclient) for a sub-net. How to fix it? |
| 14:14.20 | Mentol | I've "option rfc3442-classless-static-routes 24, 192,168,10, 192,168,10,1;" innner of a "subnet" statement |
| 14:14.29 | Mentol | And the client is getting that variable (seen in '/var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.enp0s8.lease') |
| 14:14.36 | Mentol | but it is not setting the gateway |
| 14:14.40 | Mentol | any idea? |
| 14:14.59 | benlue | #Jenkins #Cloudflare #Apache2 #mod_proxy |
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| 14:16.45 | Droid2Debian | Mentol: Normally its 255.255.255.0 for a class c address pool |
| 14:17.21 | woshty | petn-randall: Yeah, it is, thx, I should have checked that. As you apparently know taskd: How do I set a different gnutls priority from normal? cipher is only for setting ciphers, right? |
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| 14:18.09 | petn-randall | woshty: I don't know about taskd, sorry. But there are a few tools packaged in Debian that work via symlinks like that. |
| 14:18.10 | Droid2Debian | Mentol: Are you in a Virtual or "bare Metal" environmen |
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| 14:19.50 | Mentol | Droid2Debian, into a virtual env. but when I set the IPs to static, everything works well |
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| 14:21.23 | petn-randall | Mentol: There's a bug with dhclient and virtual NICs that due to missing checksums. What OSes are involved, and what virtualization? |
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| 14:23.42 | Mentol | petn-randall, Ubuntu 17.04 Server at VirtualBox 5.1.28 |
| 14:24.11 | petn-randall | Mentol: Both the host and the guests? |
| 14:24.14 | Mentol | Ubuntu is the guest system, macOs is the host |
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| 14:24.38 | petn-randall | Mentol: Then you might want to ask in the Ubuntu channel. |
| 14:24.40 | petn-randall | !ubuntu |
| 14:24.40 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 14:24.57 | Mentol | ok, thanks |
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| 14:28.58 | benlue | petn-randall, ahh now im check your question! So sry, wrong window :D |
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| 14:33.08 | oncaoncaonca | my wifi doesn't work? |
| 14:33.17 | oncaoncaonca | is it as simple as running wpa_supplicant? |
| 14:34.50 | abrotman | try it, let us know |
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| 14:36.54 | at0m | !tell oncaoncaonca about doesn't work |
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| 14:40.00 | oncaoncaonca | https://pastebin.com/v37K21Mp |
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| 14:41.55 | oncaoncaonca | wpa_supplicant can't load |
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| 14:44.31 | dvs | oncaoncaonca, because it says it's already loaded. |
| 14:45.02 | abrotman | oncaoncaonca: did you check for errors in the system logs? |
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| 14:58.47 | bashar_ | hi |
| 14:58.56 | bashar_ | guys |
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| 15:00.09 | bashar_ | some one answer me |
| 15:00.18 | bashar_ | please |
| 15:00.43 | gpunk | about ? |
| 15:01.45 | johnkeates | hi lady |
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| 15:01.47 | bashar_ | this problem |
| 15:01.55 | johnkeates | which problem |
| 15:02.08 | johnkeates | existence is a problem, but i suppose you are talking about a subproblem of that problem |
| 15:02.17 | abrotman | or lack thereof .. |
| 15:02.28 | johnkeates | or that |
| 15:02.53 | bashar_ | the xfce desktop is crouching |
| 15:03.01 | abrotman | bashar_: in which version of linux? |
| 15:03.09 | SirLagz | crouching on its knees? |
| 15:03.10 | abrotman | and wtf does "crouching" mean? |
| 15:03.11 | bashar_ | deb 9 |
| 15:03.12 | johnkeates | is it still a baby? |
| 15:03.13 | abrotman | crashing? |
| 15:03.22 | bashar_ | yeh |
| 15:03.25 | SirLagz | wait...that'd be more kneeling |
| 15:03.28 | johnkeates | i suppose |
| 15:03.53 | johnkeates | perhaps it kneeled too hard, broke its knees and is now crouching |
| 15:03.55 | bashar_ | x11 |
| 15:04.02 | abrotman | !enter |
| 15:04.02 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
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| 15:04.14 | bashar_ | error |
| 15:04.16 | SirLagz | you know what really annoys me with XFCE on Deb now...opening another window of an application always opens it at the bottom. So opening a terminal window twice, the second one doesn't actually appear on top. |
| 15:04.26 | johnkeates | you mean Z-index? |
| 15:04.46 | oncaoncaonca | system logs? |
| 15:04.51 | johnkeates | he left. or right. |
| 15:05.53 | johnkeates | anyway, if you mean the Z-index, i believe that is actually just the default setting you are experiencing -- try changing the ordering and you might lead a happier life from then on |
| 15:06.17 | SirLagz | johnkeates: what ordering where? Debian Jessie didn't do the same thing |
| 15:06.32 | johnkeates | i think it's not a Debian default per se but an XFCE default |
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| 15:06.57 | SirLagz | johnkeates: I can't seem to find any Z-index options anywhere at all |
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| 15:07.24 | oncaoncaonca | it repeats link is not ready |
| 15:07.30 | oncaoncaonca | I think this is a driver error |
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| 15:08.40 | johnkeates | SirLagz: try xfce4-settings-editor or manually editing the stuff in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf |
| 15:09.55 | johnkeates | it's probably called: "New Window Focus" in the WM settings, something like "Give focus to new window as they are created" |
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| 15:10.25 | johnkeates | i haven't used XFCE for a while, but I did have XFCE4 on a test box when it was new, and debian probably uses that version |
| 15:10.29 | johnkeates | !dpkg xfce |
| 15:10.29 | dpkg | Xfce is a pretty nifty Desktop Environment. Lightweight, fast, compact. To install, ask me about <install xfce>. https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce http://wiki.xfce.org/faq http://www.xfce.org/ #xfce on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 15:11.56 | johnkeates | hmm, i forgot, it's probably judd that does versions ,v xfce or something.. anyway, try the focus-window-when-its-new settings in the window manager settings, it might make enough of a difference for you ;-) Alternatively, it may be too much and you may only want to change the launch parameters when launching from a specific menu and not 'always' for any new window... but that's up to you |
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| 15:12.20 | oncaoncaonca | I don't know how to enable drivers |
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| 15:14.18 | SirLagz | johnkeates: can't seem to find anything like that in the settings editor =/ |
| 15:14.43 | SirLagz | if it's a new defualt, it's a dumb default...I'm opening things because I want to use it, not because I want it under everything else |
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| 15:17.32 | Burps | Hello : I'm trying ton setup my LAN with IPv6; I configured radvd on the FW/GW, now I want my LAN client to reload the network interface, to retrieve its new IP : what the right way wit NetworkManager ? (I used to systemctl restart networking, but I'm not sure it worksf now..) |
| 15:18.40 | Dagger | I'd do ifdown/ifup. no idea how that interacts with n-m though |
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| 15:19.00 | Dagger | if you just want to trigger a router solicitation, `rdisc6` also works -- and it's a useful debugging tool to know about, in any case |
| 15:19.07 | johnkeates | SirLagz: check http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/preferences i think 2 screenshots down |
| 15:19.08 | gpunk | just unplug the net cable and replug |
| 15:19.18 | johnkeates | it actually seems to have a specific GUI for that |
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| 15:19.57 | SirLagz | johnkeates: oh that...it's already ticked |
| 15:20.01 | SirLagz | johnkeates: tried that already |
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| 15:20.20 | johnkeates | well, that's just weird then, looks like your config might be messed up |
| 15:20.31 | SirLagz | johnkeates: a fresh install does the same thing |
| 15:20.48 | SirLagz | johnkeates: I'll need to find the time to dig up what causes it sometime |
| 15:20.50 | johnkeates | :-/ okay, well, in that case, asking in xfce will probably yield more results |
| 15:21.36 | johnkeates | just checked, plenty of people in #xfce |
| 15:21.36 | Burps | So much fun with net interface : "ip addr sh" telle me eth0, then "ifdown eth0" telle "unknown interface" |
| 15:21.53 | SirLagz | Burps: ifdown only works if it's in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:22.08 | Burps | hmm, mine is "empty" |
| 15:22.09 | johnkeates | exactly, also, don't mix iproute2 and net-tools :p it's a world of pain |
| 15:22.20 | SirLagz | Burps: what are you trying to do? |
| 15:22.20 | Burps | that's why I guess it's NM |
| 15:22.21 | johnkeates | if you want to take an interface down, use ip link set eth0 down |
| 15:22.46 | johnkeates | and if you are using nm, use nm-cli |
| 15:22.57 | Burps | will "ip link" send a new router sollicitaion ? |
| 15:23.01 | SirLagz | Burps: what are you trying to do? |
| 15:23.26 | Burps | SirLagz, I'd like to retrive an IP from radvd, that I just setup on my GW |
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| 15:23.50 | SirLagz | Burps: oh for ipv6? |
| 15:23.55 | Burps | yup |
| 15:23.55 | johnkeates | Burps: it should be happening automatically, if not, your configs on either end must be broken |
| 15:24.07 | Dagger | ...in fact, thinking about it, starting radvd should send an RS, so you shouldn't need to do anything on the clients |
| 15:24.09 | Burps | yes, that's what I fear.. |
| 15:24.15 | johnkeates | exactly |
| 15:24.21 | Burps | I see the RS in tcpdump |
| 15:24.32 | johnkeates | time to hop onto the debugtrain and get those packets captured indeed |
| 15:24.34 | Burps | My LAN client probably doesn't as a RS |
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| 15:24.53 | Burps | My LAN client probably doesn't send the RS |
| 15:25.01 | johnkeates | capture on both ends (if possible), ift he packets or frames get dropped halfway there... |
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| 15:25.13 | Burps | I'll do that... who knows... |
| 15:25.22 | Dagger | starting radvd should send an RA* |
| 15:25.32 | Dagger | maybe I will manage to say something correct in this conversation at some point |
| 15:26.12 | Burps | right, you meesed my mind a bit : I see the RA in tcpdump ffrom my FW |
| 15:26.36 | Dagger | Burps: what do you have in radvd.conf? |
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| 15:27.04 | Burps | let me paste that... |
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| 15:29.37 | Burps | https://bpaste.net/show/e620701571fa |
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| 15:30.00 | Burps | client sees the RA, but does not send RS |
| 15:30.18 | Dagger | AdvAutonomous off; <-- if you want SLAAC you need to turn it on |
| 15:30.35 | Burps | but client does gave a local adddress fe80 |
| 15:31.03 | Dagger | the only purpose of an RS is to trigger an RA from any routers on the network |
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| 15:31.17 | Dagger | radvd automatically sends RAs on startup and every so many seconds |
| 15:31.30 | Burps | I guess the problem lies on the client side |
| 15:31.35 | Burps | f*ck NM... |
| 15:32.02 | Dagger | (so, clients won't send an RS in response to an RA) |
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| 15:33.07 | Dagger | at least set "AdvAutonomous on;" if you want to get addresses from RAs |
| 15:33.25 | Burps | I changed it, thank you |
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| 15:37.48 | Dagger | as a side note, you can use "prefix ::/64 { ... }" to get radvd to automatically pick the subnet up by looking at the IPs on eth1 |
| 15:37.56 | Dagger | which means one fewer place to hardcode the prefix |
| 15:38.41 | Burps | great advice, thank you |
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| 15:39.59 | Burps | HOLY SH*T !!! |
| 15:40.03 | Burps | it works... |
| 15:40.36 | RoyK | ipv6 is magic |
| 15:40.38 | Burps | 2 options : I had messed up my prefix in radvd.conf, or... I forgot te restart it earlier ... |
| 15:40.52 | Burps | thank you |
| 15:40.58 | RoyK | that is, it's been around for almost 20 years and still ISPs struggle to support it |
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| 15:48.48 | leachim6 | how do you guys feel about slaac vs dhcpv6? |
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| 15:54.09 | oddcoder | hey guys |
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| 15:54.29 | oddcoder | I tried running debian9 on qemu-mips |
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| 15:54.51 | oddcoder | I pulled it from here |
| 15:54.56 | oddcoder | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-mips/current/images/malta/netboot/ |
| 15:55.06 | oddcoder | I am running with |
| 15:55.20 | oddcoder | qemu-system-mips -M malta -hda debian9.2.qcow2 -kernel vmlinux-4.9.0-4-4kc-malta -initrd initrd.gz -append "root=/dev/ram" |
| 15:55.27 | oddcoder | I get this error during booting |
| 15:55.41 | oddcoder | initramfs unpacking failed: uncompression error |
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| 15:56.51 | oddcoder | the qcow file is an empty one I created to install debian on it later |
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| 15:58.12 | Pkudoz | #puppylinux |
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| 16:02.20 | oddcoder | is it broken or something? |
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| 16:03.02 | johnkeates | oddcoder: inpacking failure into ram means either the compression is unsupported or the file is bad |
| 16:03.22 | oddcoder | I downloaded it twice so I doubt the file is bad |
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| 16:03.37 | oddcoder | what to do for the comresssion problem ? |
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| 16:12.17 | pluto69 | hey y a des french la? |
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| 16:14.21 | abrotman | !fr |
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| 16:29.05 | RoyK | anyone that knows a project for tiered storage for linux that's actually active? |
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| 16:48.05 | kia | hi all |
| 16:48.15 | pluto69 | hi |
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| 17:05.03 | EleanorEllis | I have twice tried to verify an iso written to a USB stick and twice I get the same wrong checksum. What am I doing wrong? https://pastebin.com/4h1hHyxy |
| 17:06.15 | EleanorEllis | The iso file itself checks out OK |
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| 17:08.35 | user_asfa | how to mount a usb drive? |
| 17:08.42 | Wulf | EleanorEllis: broken usb drive |
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| 17:08.56 | Wulf | EleanorEllis: or too small: |
| 17:08.58 | Wulf | 1947926528 bytes (1.9 GB, 1.8 GiB) copied, 161.564 s, 12.1 MB/s |
| 17:09.01 | Wulf | 1947598848 bytes (1.9 GB, 1.8 GiB) copied, 38.8704 s, 50.1 MB/s |
| 17:09.29 | Wulf | EleanorEllis: why do you have count=950976? |
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| 17:10.52 | EleanorEllis | Wulf: Because that was the output of isozsize -x /dev/sdb |
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| 17:11.00 | SerkanDevel[m] | What displaymanager does enyone use here? |
| 17:11.57 | Wulf | SerkanDevel[m]: gdm |
| 17:12.26 | SerkanDevel[m] | Does it handle anti-aliasing? |
| 17:12.39 | Wulf | SerkanDevel[m]: probably not. Why should it? |
| 17:13.01 | Wulf | EleanorEllis: but that's not the size of your iso. |
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| 17:14.58 | abrotman | EleanorEllis: I thnk it's cp now, not dd .. |
| 17:15.09 | Wulf | abrotman: doesn't matter |
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| 17:18.01 | user_asfa | how to mount an usb stick? |
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| 17:18.11 | Tsutsukakushi | man mount |
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| 17:19.34 | Wulf | user_asfa: mount /dev/sdb /mnt |
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| 17:24.11 | EleanorEllis | Wulf: I have tried reformatting the USB stick and copying to it again. isosize still reports sector count 950976 and sector size 2048 |
| 17:24.29 | jelly | EleanorEllis: you ought to verify the whole size of the .iso image, not just what the isosize tool says. |
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| 17:25.33 | annadane | EleanorEllis, also if you're putting a debian iso on it you need to do it while it's unmounted |
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| 17:26.08 | EleanorEllis | jelly: I was following https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify |
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| 17:27.29 | jelly | EleanorEllis: then that page is outdated for the image you're using. |
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| 17:28.08 | jelly | EleanorEllis: is the .iso image files actually sized at 1947598848 bytes? |
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| 17:29.46 | EleanorEllis | jelly: According to Thunar, the iso is 1,947,926,528 bytes |
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| 17:30.26 | jelly | EleanorEllis: then that's how much you ought to read from the stick and checksum |
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| 17:32.12 | jelly | that amounts to 951136 not 950976 of 2KiB-sized sectors |
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| 17:34.36 | clydez | . |
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| 17:35.20 | EleanorEllis | jelly: Thanks. I now get the correct checksum. How does the incorrect FAQ page get updated? |
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| 17:44.36 | m712 | is there a way to have a debian jessie install but keep xorgserver 1.12? |
| 17:44.54 | m712 | there's a proprietary touchscreen driver that requires 1.12 |
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| 17:45.04 | m712 | will this break my system? |
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| 17:53.35 | jelly | ,v xserver-xorg-core |
| 17:53.37 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-core on amd64 -- wheezy: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u6; wheezy-security: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u7; jessie: 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u1+b1; jessie-proposed-updates: 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2; jessie-security: 2:1.16.4-1+deb8u2; stretch: 2:1.19.2-1+deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 2:1.19.2-1+deb9u2; stretch-security: 2:1.19.2-1+deb9u2; buster: 2:1.19.5-1; sid: 2:1.19.5-1 |
| 17:54.48 | jelly | m712: might break, might not, mixing releases is really not supported so the only way to find out is to try it. Use a chroot with jessie instead, if possible |
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| 18:02.50 | EleanorEllis | When I am running the live CD, how do I then install Debian from it or do I need to reboot and then use one of installers from the boot menu? |
| 18:04.51 | EleanorEllis | Also the live CD has gone to sleep. What is the default username and password for a live CD? |
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| 18:21.17 | dio | !List |
| 18:21.18 | dpkg | dio: Ã possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-9.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 18:21.55 | ammm2222 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:22.33 | ammm2222 | I have local socks port open, i want that other computers on my lan be able to use it |
| 18:22.55 | a_j__c | assuming you didnt touch iptables...it should be allowed |
| 18:23.00 | a_j__c | have socks listen on 0.0.0.0 |
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| 18:24.39 | ammm2222 | i can't connect :( it's tor socks port |
| 18:25.41 | EleanorEllis | Is this #debian channel the same as the one on irc.oftc.net? |
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| 18:25.53 | ibthegreat | hy |
| 18:26.34 | ibthegreat | hello |
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| 18:26.56 | LtL | EleanorEllis: no it's not |
| 18:27.33 | armin | so i would love to have Control-Mod4-hjkl functioning like real arrow keys on my keyboard. what's the easiest way to achieve this? |
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| 18:27.49 | armin | doesn't necessarily have to work on console, too. |
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| 18:29.07 | manuelschneid3r | how should a .rules file look like |
| 18:29.16 | manuelschneid3r | do I have to use it? |
| 18:29.50 | cosinefunction | iptables -p INPUT DROP |
| 18:29.50 | cosinefunction | iptables -p OUTPUT ACCEPT |
| 18:29.50 | cosinefunction | iptables -p FORWARD DROP |
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| 18:30.26 | EleanorEllis | LtL: thanks |
| 18:30.35 | cosinefunction | Change the drop to the accept |
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| 18:31.34 | cosinefunction | As I remember it can not be remember if you reboot |
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| 18:42.51 | LtL | manuelschneid3r: it's iptables -P INPUT DROP ...etc. if all policies are set to DROP you will not be able to do anything, specific rules would need to be added. also look into netfilter-persistent package |
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| 18:44.40 | LtL | manuelschneid3r: if all policies are set to ACCEPT you essentially have no firewall. |
| 18:44.55 | manuelschneid3r | oh hell :D i should be more precise |
| 18:45.13 | manuelschneid3r | I meant the debain.rules files needed to build a deb package |
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| 19:02.33 | asdf_ | Hello, I just installed Debain 9.1.2 and discoverd, that some command line tools vanished like ipconfig, locate. My Question is are there more often used but deleted (command-line) tools? |
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| 19:03.52 | AlisaLisa | Free sex dating - http://2018sexxx.com |
| 19:04.09 | asdf_ | I was very confused because 10 Games were installed but not the usual important command line tools. |
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| 19:05.03 | mnuhmnuh | what's this "sex" stuff?!? never heard of it. who'd want one? :-P |
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| 19:06.11 | mnuhmnuh | asdf_: check /sbin; it may not be in $USER's PATH |
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| 19:06.29 | asdf_ | i think you need a time machine for this or some idiot executed his advertising script for 2018 in 2017 :D xD mD |
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| 19:06.55 | mnuhmnuh | aptitude search, apt search, ... |
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| 19:07.45 | mnuhmnuh | i grew up with it; easier. |
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| 19:08.24 | mnuhmnuh | !ops # sex spam? |
| 19:08.25 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: mnuhmnuh complains about a problem (see above) |
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| 19:09.16 | asdf_ | it seems it wasnt a script. |
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| 19:09.51 | mnuhmnuh | hope i did right. i'm new to irc. |
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| 19:10.34 | abrotman | I thought people were over that ... |
| 19:11.11 | asdf_ | mnuhmnuh , are there many other usual programms missing in 9.1.2? |
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| 19:15.26 | mnuhmnuh | asdf_: dunno what you mean; i've no trouble finding anything. i'm finding new cool stuff i've never heard of (debian-goodies; dpigs :-). |
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| 19:19.37 | thnee | I have a disk that shows up like this in lsblk: https://gist.github.com/thnee/4fa90ac5b818e83b4ad12f647d0e1436 I think this means I need to mdadm --assemble, but which of the partitions do I need to use? |
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| 19:21.36 | mnuhmnuh | thnee: sdb1, sdb2, & sdb3, i'd assume. |
| 19:22.05 | thnee | mnuhmnuh: it is typical for mdadm to have those extra smaller partitions? |
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| 19:25.40 | mnuhmnuh | 4G, .5G, 1.8T, ... i've never bothered w mdadm/raid except in client's existing (and playing). never bothered w it personally. you learn how it gets filled. |
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| 19:27.30 | mnuhmnuh | i built a usb raid w 4 4G keys once, for fun. talking frog. |
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| 19:37.20 | RoyK | mnuhmnuh: something like RAIF? Redundant Array of Ineffective Floppies? |
| 19:37.58 | asdf_ | xD |
| 19:38.18 | mnuhmnuh | asdf_: https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster # i wrote it. add what you find. |
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| 19:46.17 | mnuhmnuh | RoyK: i gained ca. 40 blank floppies w my first laptop, from MS, intended for making backup copy of OS. pthoo!!!!! insulting. |
| 19:48.43 | mnuhmnuh | never liked/trusted floppies. |
| 19:50.21 | Delf | I'm having strange problems. There is a lingering Debian-gdm session after I have logged in and it doesn't show any Display= value when using "loginctl show-session -p Display <session id>". |
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| 19:52.57 | mnuhmnuh | Delf: is this multi-user system; others logging in? may not be logging out (correctly)? |
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| 19:53.49 | mnuhmnuh | i never log out; i lock up, until reboot. |
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| 20:01.08 | pugcs | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:08.58 | pldiem | hi, was anyone able to pair device (in my case mouse MX Master) via bluetooth on Debian 9 Gnome? |
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| 20:14.47 | rawruw | did the new iptables thing replace the old (net-tools?) firwall thing too? |
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| 20:22.03 | rudi_s | pugcs: Change your password? |
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| 20:26.47 | fappinfire | r there any peri irc roosms |
| 20:27.31 | annadane | peri or perl? i'm not sure what peri is |
| 20:27.44 | fappinfire | peri.scoep |
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| 20:30.09 | Delf | mnuhmnuh: Yes, it's a multi-seat system. Only seat0 does this, the other seats works perfectly fine, no lingering debian-gdm session. |
| 20:31.00 | Delf | mnuhmnuh: I have a script running that shuts down the machine after 10 minutes if no users are logged in, so no one asks "can I shut down the computer?" :P |
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| 20:33.10 | aura | what's isc-dhcp-server? |
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| 20:34.07 | aura | https://paste.debian.net/993301/ |
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| 20:34.12 | Delf | aura: Are you familiar with dhcp protocol? |
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| 20:35.13 | aura | nope, i run an upgrade and this stuff showed up |
| 20:37.39 | Delf | aura: what does apt show isc-dhcp-server give you as dependency? |
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| 20:39.07 | awal1 | Any suggestion/good alternative to 'calibre' , lightweight and DE independent? |
| 20:39.26 | annadane | awal1, fbreader |
| 20:39.40 | aura | Delf https://paste.debian.net/993303/ |
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| 20:40.27 | ngc0202 | so I just did a net install of debian, the install process seemed to go well |
| 20:40.43 | ngc0202 | but I booted in and there's basically nothing installed |
| 20:40.45 | awal1 | annadane, I think I tried fbreader a few years ago but I don't remember how it is/was. is it enough good for electronic stuff and lightweight? |
| 20:40.52 | ngc0202 | what went wrong? |
| 20:41.14 | ngc0202 | it seems like it only installed the bare minimum instead of grabbing everything else off the network |
| 20:41.29 | Delf | aura: If you run, but not hit y when/if it asks you. What does it say? apt remove isc-dhcp-server |
| 20:41.31 | annadane | awal1, seems to be pretty lightweight, no real dependencies |
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| 20:42.38 | awal1 | annadane, nice |
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| 20:43.01 | aura | would i be fine removing it? |
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| 20:44.10 | Delf | aura: It seems that it's failing to start, I'm guessing because of lack of proper/missing configuration files. And I'm assuming things are working fine without it running. Correct me if I'm wrong. Does it say that there are things that on isc-dhcp-server? |
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| 20:44.21 | Coolternet | hello guys |
| 20:44.24 | fly_agaric | hello guys, i have a 4mbit connection and iam trying to boot from a gparted live iso on my kvm guest vm. unfortunately it laggs the hell out of my internet |
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| 20:44.33 | Coolternet | anyone know if existe Kickstart for Debian 9 ? |
| 20:44.43 | fly_agaric | i need to wait 10 minutes before i can klick somewhere |
| 20:44.52 | aura | oh no |
| 20:44.56 | aura | Delf >.< |
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| 20:45.14 | fly_agaric | is there some bandwidth option? |
| 20:45.20 | fly_agaric | i cant work like that on virt-manager |
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| 20:46.42 | aura | Delf is it a default debian package? I don't remember downloading it |
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| 20:47.21 | Delf | aura: If I'm not mistaken it's optional. |
| 20:47.46 | Delf | If you look in your paste url, it should say Priority: optional |
| 20:48.02 | aura | what is it for? and what's www.isc.org? |
| 20:48.32 | mnuhmnuh | ngc0202: are you connected? install mate-desktop (or whatever); ought to drag in everything else? |
| 20:48.48 | ngc0202 | no not connected |
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| 20:49.05 | Delf | dhcp stands for dymamic host⦠something protocol :P It's a protocol that has server/client roles. The server supplies ip addresses for the clients. |
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| 20:50.31 | Delf | aura: isc is the name for the organization. You can read more @about in the url. |
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| 20:50.33 | ngc0202 | i'm trying the install again... |
| 20:50.33 | mnuhmnuh | ngc0202: if you've the 1st cd image, it should be usable (define usable). |
| 20:51.02 | ngc0202 | what do you think went wrong during the install? |
| 20:51.02 | mnuhmnuh | starbucks! |
| 20:52.54 | ngc0202 | mm apparently I also accidentally downloaded Buster |
| 20:52.55 | mnuhmnuh | netinstall takes forever (in my experience) but has never failed for me. lots of backing and filling afterward, but not failed. |
| 20:53.11 | Burps | Next step with my IPv6 setup : LAN clients get an IPv6, but when I browse the V6 website, I timeout |
| 20:53.34 | Burps | I do resolve in IPv6 (dig AAAA www.kame.net answers OK) |
| 20:53.42 | mnuhmnuh | buster/testing's good! helps the devs debug next stable! |
| 20:53.44 | Burps | where sould be the problem ? |
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| 20:54.43 | ngc0202 | I kiiind of wanted a stable OS but I guess this is fine |
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| 20:54.52 | ngc0202 | how do I report bugs if I find them |
| 20:55.17 | ngc0202 | also I think the "Select and install software" step got skipped or something |
| 20:55.19 | mnuhmnuh | ngc0202: reportbug |
| 20:55.29 | ngc0202 | because it's taking forever right how, and I don't remember this happening before |
| 20:56.39 | annadane | ngc0202, how did you write the image to the install media |
| 20:57.00 | ngc0202 | rufus why? |
| 20:57.07 | annadane | don't use rufus; use win32diskimager |
| 20:57.20 | annadane | !tell ngc0202 about win32diskimager |
| 20:57.23 | ngc0202 | why? |
| 20:57.31 | annadane | because rufus is not reliable |
| 20:57.36 | ngc0202 | eek somebody tell that bot to use notice |
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| 20:58.11 | ngc0202 | Well it seems to all be working this time around. It's asking me about desktop environment which I know for a fact didn't happen before. Can't imagine why |
| 20:58.20 | ngc0202 | What's unreliable about it? I don't think I've had problems in the past |
| 20:58.39 | ngc0202 | and I'm not sure I consider this time a problem but I don't really know why the install failed the first time, but I didn't change anything his time around |
| 20:59.11 | annadane | if it were me i'd just redo it to make sure i have a solid system which has been installed as intended but it's up to you |
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| 21:00.32 | Fjorgynn | fest? |
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| 21:02.36 | ngc0202 | I'm optimistic this time anna |
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| 21:02.56 | ngc0202 | I'll consider using win32diskimager next time though |
| 21:03.09 | ngc0202 | I already have it installed anyway, I've just been using rufus for years |
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| 21:04.17 | annadane | yeah, you're Probably Fine(TM) |
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| 21:20.19 | Ellied | Hey, for some reason my graphics drivers (945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller) are using OpenGL 1.4, which means Plasma is falling back on XRender. I had an OpenGL version higher than 2.0 working last time I installed Debian Testing on this same machine, so I don't understand what's wrong. |
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| 21:25.44 | manuelschneid3r | libpython3-dev does not contain the so |
| 21:25.55 | manuelschneid3r | where is the lib contained? |
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| 21:41.11 | mnuhmnuh | manuelschneid3r: guessing libpython3-stdlib |
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| 21:41.49 | mnuhmnuh | libpython3.6-stdlib |
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| 22:09.16 | Pkudoz | /msg dpkg irclog |
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| 22:12.04 | maxzor | is it the right place to ask about a specific packaging? Keepass2 is 2.32 in repos, latest available is 2.37 |
| 22:13.54 | maxzor | it manages PGP keys too now so it could come handy |
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| 22:16.40 | maxzor | alright...nvm 2.32 has it too |
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| 22:18.09 | Pkudoz | #puppylinux |
| 22:18.57 | Pkudoz | oops |
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| 22:24.01 | Gaaab | hi everybody |
| 22:25.02 | raidghost | Hi Gaaab |
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| 22:44.32 | mnuhmnuh | !puppylinux |
| 22:44.32 | dpkg | Puppy Linux is a GNU/Linux mini-distribution. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.puppylinux.com/ #puppylinux on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 22:49.49 | jaggz | with plasma: what's up with me needing pavucontrol to set left-right balance? the plasma audio volume settings don't provide it |
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| 22:52.38 | annadane | jaggz, maybe try asking in #debian-kde on irc.oftc.net |
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| 22:58.01 | merethan | Hi all |
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| 22:58.33 | herbe_rouge | hi all |
| 22:58.34 | merethan | I've just installed snort but accidentally skipped the config part. How do I rerun the config step of this package? |
| 22:59.59 | Coolternet | anyone know a website for genering a preseed file ? |
| 23:00.15 | Coolternet | *generate |
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| 23:01.34 | woshty | merethan: there is a config part? usually dkpg-reconfigure [package] |
| 23:02.00 | herbe_rouge | any idea why the equalizer is not active in the jessie version of amarok? |
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| 23:12.52 | Derima | sup |
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| 23:14.52 | Derrima | hello |
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| 23:19.44 | Derrimia | i kieep loosing connect |
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| 23:27.19 | CanDoo | hello. |
| 23:27.45 | CanDoo | having a bit of an issue with Gnome in Jessie. |
| 23:28.10 | CanDoo | gnome keeps locking up my desktop seemingly randomly. |
| 23:28.37 | CanDoo | if I restart gnome-shell it seems to fix it for a bit. but if i clock on Avtivities it locks up and i can not type or click on things. |
| 23:28.45 | CanDoo | would anyone have any suggestions? |
| 23:28.50 | CanDoo | please |
| 23:31.12 | herbe_rouge | CanDoo: that's going to need a lot more detail to help |
| 23:31.54 | herbe_rouge | if you're using gdm3 you might want to consider installing mate |
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| 23:32.12 | max_ | hello |
| 23:32.24 | CanDoo | ahh, thank you. |
| 23:32.30 | max_ | how i can install drivers on jessie https://packages.debian.org/en/jessie/firmware-iwlwifi |
| 23:32.31 | CanDoo | yeah it is gdm3 |
| 23:32.46 | CanDoo | i installed lightdm because gdm3 didn't show any users. |
| 23:33.22 | Guest65127 | i try from usb stick when i install but os didnt recognize it |
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| 23:36.19 | herbe_rouge | CanDoo: as I said, difficult to advise withuot a lot more detail (distro, hardware etc) but if this is a new install I'd suggest starting again with stretch using mate, i suspect you've skipped a page in the live install cd , hth |
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| 23:37.03 | CanDoo | debian, jessie, gdm3 |
| 23:37.28 | Guest65127 | i cant using stretch on this machine because kernel version freezing when i use speakers |
| 23:38.49 | Guest65127 | when i install os oi should put stick with iwlwifi-5000-1.ucode iwlwifi-5000-2.ucode iwlwifi-5000-3.ucode iwlwifi-5000-4.ucode iwlwifi-5000-5.ucode |
| 23:39.03 | CanDoo | now it's not a new install. i did an apt-get update of jessie today and afterwords , gdm3 had new users to login with, so i googled and read that installing litedm could help and lightdm did let me log in. however.. gnome-shell keeps freezing, if i restart gnome-shell from a console. it frees up again, but eventually freezes again. |
| 23:39.14 | Guest65127 | on package i fing only 2 and 5 |
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| 23:39.32 | Guest65127 | find* |
| 23:40.51 | Guest65127 | its possible to install drivers now? |
| 23:40.57 | Guest65127 | from tar gz? |
| 23:40.59 | Guest65127 | :) |
| 23:41.51 | Brigo | Guest65127, so you have stretch already installed? |
| 23:41.58 | CanDoo | brb |
| 23:42.43 | Guest65127 | i cant install stretch - kernel freezing pc when i use sound card |
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| 23:43.40 | Brigo | Guest65127, then what are you using? |
| 23:43.57 | Guest65127 | jessie 8.9 |
| 23:45.02 | Brigo | Guest65127, have you internet connection? |
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| 23:45.35 | Guest65127 | only on other pc |
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| 23:46.13 | CanDoo | very strange |
| 23:47.17 | Guest65127 | i can download on other and using usb stick to files, when i install drivers i will have net :) |
| 23:47.36 | Guest65127 | so i need install drivers :) https://packages.debian.org/en/jessie/firmware-iwlwifi |
| 23:47.45 | Guest65127 | but i dont know how |
| 23:47.51 | Brigo | Guest65127, i think those firmwares in debian are enought. |
| 23:48.29 | Brigo | Guest65127, anyway you can just copy them to /lib/firmware if you want to. |
| 23:48.43 | Guest65127 | oh wait i check |
| 23:48.45 | Guest65127 | :)\ |
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| 23:49.21 | Brigo | the better way would be activating non-free repository and update and upgrade from there. |
| 23:49.39 | Brigo | next time you can install an image with firmware from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 23:49.57 | Brigo | and you can try a newer kernel for stretch from backports. |
| 23:50.09 | Brigo | !backport |
| 23:50.09 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 23:50.16 | CanDoo | adding more info. i do run my linuxbox in a Virtual Machine, under VirtualBox |
| 23:50.26 | Brigo | ,kernels |
| 23:50.28 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.14.0-rc5-686 (4.14~rc5-1~exp1); sid: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.4-2); buster: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.4-2); stretch-backports: 4.13.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.13.4-2~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-4-686 (4.9.51-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.3-686 (4.9.30-2+deb9u5~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u5); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae |
| 23:50.29 | judd | (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.93-1) |
| 23:51.03 | Brigo | it would be 4.13 |
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| 23:51.42 | Guest65127 | i see its only net installer |
| 23:51.53 | Guest65127 | but i dont have cable connection to net |
| 23:51.53 | Guest65127 | ;/ |
| 23:54.57 | Brigo | Guest65127, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/archive/9.2.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
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| 23:55.24 | Guest65127 | its stretch |
| 23:55.30 | Guest65127 | but i need jessie |
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| 23:56.11 | Guest65127 | copy files to lib/firmware working :) |
| 23:56.21 | Guest65127 | now i have wifi thankyou:) |
| 23:56.52 | Brigo | Guest65127, good for you. |
| 23:57.32 | Guest65127 | on debian stretch kernel 4.9 i have problems when i use sound card i dont know why, so i back to older debian |
| 23:57.50 | Brigo | Guest65127, as i said you could try 4.13 from backports |
| 23:58.27 | Brigo | Guest65127, i have to go, sorry :/ |
| 23:58.34 | Guest65127 | ;/ |
| 23:58.37 | Guest65127 | ok i try |
| 23:58.42 | Guest65127 | i must find iso :) |
| 23:58.46 | Guest65127 | thanks |
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| 23:58.51 | Delimo | hi |
| 23:58.55 | Delimo | im gay lmao |
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| 23:59.13 | mnuhmnuh | who cares? |
| 23:59.25 | Delimo | kys |
| 23:59.28 | mnuhmnuh | i'm a dog. |
| 23:59.29 | Delimo | noob |
| 23:59.35 | Delimo | im gay lol |