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| 00:01.27 | rant | maxzor: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf or use the session selector menu from the login screen |
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| 00:02.29 | rant | the options are all in the file already but commented out.. they have descriptions |
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| 00:04.19 | ebernhardson | fwiw the repository is `http://package.sconfluent.io/deb/2.0 stable main`. The exact error from apt is 'GPG error: http://packages.confluent.io/deb/2.0 stable InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: 1A77041E0314E6C5A486524E670540C841468433' |
| 00:04.39 | ebernhardson | that conicides with the file http://packages.confluent.io/deb/2.0/dists/stable/InRelease which when downloaded directly as well clearly is signed, and gpg likes that one too :S |
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| 00:06.45 | imp | hell. paradoxal dependencies. |
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| 00:11.27 | maxzor | rant: thank you, can vncserver also run on lightdm? |
| 00:11.57 | maxzor | (installed tightvncserver) |
| 00:12.11 | rant | maxzor: that would probably be more trouble than its worth, though its doable.. are you interested in merely session selection or different user logins? |
| 00:13.13 | rant | the latter I'm not really sure how to do off the top of my head, but the latter is easier |
| 00:13.20 | rant | erm the former is easier |
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| 00:13.47 | maxzor | rant: first option. |
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| 00:14.09 | TotalOblivion | imp, I just had to reboot :P |
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| 00:14.16 | TotalOblivion | Thanks for the information :) |
| 00:14.59 | rant | maxzor: there is a package choosewm that you can set the session to, this will allow selection of different sessions |
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| 00:15.46 | rant | it'd also be trivial to do with a zenity/yad type shell script though |
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| 00:16.48 | maxzor | being a total noob with vnc (outside realvnc...) and DEs, im all for the user-friendly choosewm |
| 00:18.45 | maxzor | first mutter is lightdm right? I have both lightdm default and xfce installed, but choosewm only outputs mutter |
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| 00:21.49 | rant | maxzor: mutter is a window manager and light dm is a display manager |
| 00:22.39 | rant | "default" in a display manager usually just executes ~/.xsession or if thats not available looks to alternatives to see what they default is I suppose |
| 00:24.39 | rant | maxzor: as for adding stuff, see the manpage for how to congiure /etc/X11/choosewm/config man choosewm |
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| 00:31.00 | lszyba1 | hello, |
| 00:31.00 | lszyba1 | This might be a very stupid question but I just upgrade to debian stable 9, and I can't get my static ip to work |
| 00:31.00 | lszyba1 | I systemctl stop NetworkManager.service and then disable it |
| 00:31.00 | lszyba1 | but things like /etc/init.d /networking restart |
| 00:31.00 | lszyba1 | does not do anything,,,doing services networking restart says "unit netwokring.services is masked" |
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| 00:31.31 | phenom | Can I get yall's opinion on Testing's stability? My primary OS was Debian Stable for 15 or so years but went to the *buntus because I was tired of dealing with out of date packages. Would you guys recommend Stable and dealing with backports; or would you consider Testing stable enough to consider running full time? I know this has been heavily discussed elsewhere, but I wouldn't mind an opinion or two before I format yet again. I'm using Manjaro ATM |
| 00:31.31 | phenom | but the system has already "broke" multiple times since I've started messing with it. |
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| 00:32.56 | rant | phenom: it all depends on what packages you need, and if you can navigate a moving branch and resolve errors or not |
| 00:32.57 | ivan | why not stable and build your own backports with sbuild |
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| 00:34.32 | phenom | I want to be able to install a bunch of SDR software, aircrack suite and a bunch of "off-ones" that has been a historical pain with Stable. |
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| 00:35.25 | lszyba1 | what's the new way to control static ip..I've upgraded my server...but now network manager I think took over my networking |
| 00:35.41 | phenom | I don't mind fixing an occasional hiccough, but as I just experienced with Manjaro, I was left without a bootable system the last 2 updates. |
| 00:36.06 | lszyba1 | I did systemctrl, stop ,,then disable...but /etc/init.d/netwokring restart doesn't take my static ip in /etc/netwokr/intefaces... |
| 00:36.36 | lszyba1 | service networking restart says unti networking.service is masked...?? |
| 00:36.43 | rant | phenom: something like aircrack is rather simple to backport using the ssb /msg dpkg ssb |
| 00:37.21 | rant | phenom: unless you need something large like X, QT, KDE, backporting smaller things is fairly painless |
| 00:37.28 | phenom | And I never thought I'd say this, but after trying KDE/Plasma on Manjaro, I think I'd like to give it a shot on whatever system I run. |
| 00:37.30 | phenom | ^ |
| 00:37.34 | phenom | Damn |
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| 00:40.07 | phenom | Have yall known Plasma to run well on Stable? |
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| 00:42.40 | phenom | I take it you guys are advocating the use of Stable. |
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| 00:43.22 | rant | its all we support here |
| 00:43.27 | dvs | phenom, in this channel we do |
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| 00:44.13 | Epakai | I used it for a few weeks. Don't recall any major problems except it was possible to install lots of plasma without some of the parts I expected to get installed. I remember the display configuration stuff was missing initially. |
| 00:44.47 | Epakai | but I probably used the wrong meta package |
| 00:45.50 | phenom | Forgive me for veering off-topic. I suppose offtopic would be a better channel to pose the question to. |
| 00:46.26 | dvs | phenom, #debian-next in OFTC |
| 00:46.54 | maxzor | thank you rant |
| 00:46.55 | phenom | I appreciate all of your input. I guess I was just hoping to hear someone say, sure Testing is stable enough to use! |
| 00:46.56 | phenom | :P |
| 00:47.07 | metastable | If it were, we'd call it stable. |
| 00:47.15 | dvs | exxactly |
| 00:47.23 | phenom | Or stable-enough |
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| 00:49.48 | Epakai | stable is stable in the sense new packages/new versions of packages aren't added. Testing is volatile and more likely to have broken things introduced (sometimes intentionally). |
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| 00:56.47 | crazy_mormon | hey |
| 00:57.03 | crazy_mormon | broadcom-sta-dkms not work for mt7601u.bin? |
| 00:57.08 | crazy_mormon | in sid? |
| 00:57.18 | crazy_mormon | installed it but still not load driver |
| 00:57.29 | crazy_mormon | how fix? |
| 00:57.38 | crazy_mormon | *slaps himself with a donkey |
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| 00:59.55 | annadane | !debian-next |
| 00:59.55 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 00:59.58 | annadane | crazy_mormon, ^ |
| 01:00.21 | crazy_mormon | ? |
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| 01:03.19 | z3330 | hey guys im looking to switch from windows to debian on my desktop how is the support for iommu + kvm i want to do GPU passthrough |
| 01:03.42 | z3330 | should i use debian 9.2.1 or something else? |
| 01:08.52 | Sveta | z3330: test this feature using a live cd? 9.2.1 sounds ok |
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| 01:31.40 | annadane | crazy_mormon, i'm saying, you should ask in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 01:32.12 | crazy_mormon | k |
| 01:32.22 | crazy_mormon | i installed it but doesnt work |
| 01:32.24 | crazy_mormon | :( |
| 01:32.32 | crazy_mormon | maybe the wifi card is bad |
| 01:32.37 | crazy_mormon | i will try another and boot up |
| 01:32.41 | crazy_mormon | have like 20 of these |
| 01:32.56 | crazy_mormon | thx |
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| 01:34.06 | annadane | crazy_mormon, |
| 01:34.09 | annadane | !doesn't work |
| 01:34.09 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 01:38.38 | maxzor | rant: i made a reinstall with xfce only to bother with DEs later. I installed tightvncserver on it and launched. |
| 01:38.57 | maxzor | I try to access from an ubuntu client with remmina |
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| 01:39.45 | maxzor | i can launch a vnc session on 192.168.x.x:5901 but it is full grey and no control on the host at all. |
| 01:40.02 | maxzor | (following this tuto https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-vnc-server-on-debian-8) |
| 01:40.15 | maxzor | would you have any hint? |
| 01:40.19 | rant | maxzor: xfce IS a DE |
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| 01:41.09 | rant | maxzor: and a grey screen is normal for a X session with nothing running.. when you start the vnc server it probably said starting session in ~/.xsession if that file doesn't contain the programs to run then you are running nothing |
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| 01:41.34 | rant | it also creates logs |
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| 01:42.24 | rant | maxzor: what exactly is it that you want? |
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| 01:43.05 | maxzor | rant: I used only realvnc on a raspberry so far and it is misleading I believe. |
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| 01:43.23 | maxzor | I want to take control of a graphical interface over the network |
| 01:43.35 | abff | x2vnc works pretty well |
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| 01:44.13 | abff | it creates an xwindow 1 pixel wide just off your monitor, when you move the cursor over to that side, all input is captured and sent to a vncserver |
| 01:44.15 | rant | maxzor: yes but do you have say a desktop system that you can access a graphical interface locally like a normal desktop environment, and you want to control THAT remotely? |
| 01:45.08 | abff | I use it with my desktop as the server, since my desktop also runs my tv, so I can interact with kodi or run mpv from my laptop |
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| 01:46.04 | abff | it does require your vncserver to have a display that you can see, but it saves on network traffic and cpu usage |
| 01:46.55 | abff | http://fredrik.hubbe.net/x2vnc.html |
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| 01:48.22 | maxzor | rant, yes I have a desktop session with debian. I have a laptop with ubuntu. I want to go to a meeting tomorrow where I will get taught about virtualbox. Since my laptop doesnt have Vt-X, I plan to bring the laptop to the meeting, vnc to my home debian desktop, and run the vm there... taking control of the debian xfce from ubuntu remmina? |
| 01:48.33 | maxzor | s/session/station |
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| 01:49.01 | abff | then you'd just use a vncviewer and a vncserver |
| 01:49.13 | maxzor | yes |
| 01:49.57 | maxzor | on the tuto above they advise tightvncserver^ |
| 01:50.25 | abff | I've only ever used x11vnc, I dunno what the advantages of alternatives |
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| 01:52.33 | maxzor | I already managed to vnc on a raspberry over WAN with Remot3.it, which are both terrible programs GNU-wise as I recently understood. |
| 01:52.44 | rant | maxzor: I highly recommend you use xpra to start virtualbox on the host and connect to it using xpra on your laptop over ssh |
| 01:52.59 | rant | maxzor: if all you want is to run that one application reliably over the internet |
| 01:54.30 | rant | maxzor: my reasoning is this.. first of all xpra automatically does tunneling over ssh which is more secure, it is faster than a full frame-buffer of an entire screen and starting a whole new x session, and it will make it appear that the virtualbox is running natively on your laptop with better performance, and xpra also has a GUI to help you set this up on the server side |
| 01:54.50 | maxzor | yes probably... but my desktop is under a NAT and ipv4 line and I don't know how to ssh through that. So I took the circonvoluted approach to pass through my proxy with remot3.it and use vnc rather than ssh. That is a crazy approach when thinking about it oO |
| 01:55.24 | abff | port forwarding yo |
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| 01:55.35 | rant | maxzor: do you not have access to your NAT to port foward? |
| 01:55.39 | maxzor | ^ helpless network nob there |
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| 01:55.58 | abff | and yeah in this case I'd agree with rant, xpra is your best option |
| 01:56.46 | rant | xpra is far more secure and will offer better performance and you can tell it to start ONLY virtualbox and when you connect with xpra on the client side it shows you virtualbox just like you were running it natively |
| 01:58.03 | rant | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:58.55 | maxzor | ok so port forwarding to traverse NAT, and xpra for the graphical remote. |
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| 01:59.41 | abff | I'd say get the application to work inside your lan first, then get ssh working over wan |
| 01:59.48 | abff | then you should be set |
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| 02:02.02 | rant | maxzor: I'd do this.. I'd configure ssh to a non-standard higher port number like 12345 and then make a key pair on the laptop with ssh-keygen, copy the public key to the user's homedir ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the host, then start xpra with virtualbox and then use "xpra attach ssh/user@1.2.3.4:12345/100" on the client |
| 02:02.22 | Epakai | I keep seeing a repeated new process with name "192.168.1.2-man", what is that? |
| 02:02.24 | rant | maxzor: then forward port 12345 to the host through your nat |
| 02:03.07 | maxzor | easier than porting forward port22? |
| 02:03.34 | rant | maxzor: safer.. using a non-standard port reduces random login attempts |
| 02:03.42 | maxzor | right |
| 02:03.57 | maxzor | thank you a lot for your inputs rant and abff :) |
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| 02:04.27 | rant | maxzor: I tested this recently on my orangepi lite and was running Windows 7 on a crappy SBC with 512MB ram with very good performance |
| 02:04.37 | abff | keep that x2vnc jic, I think it's a great snippet for your lan toolkit ;) |
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| 02:04.43 | lszyba1 | after upgrade to stretch I can't get my network up and runnign on my server. /etc/network/interfaces has all settings |
| 02:04.55 | rant | maxzor: vnc would have been total crap because it'd have had a full X session running, and drawing an entire framebuffer not just virtualbox |
| 02:04.57 | lszyba1 | but when I do service network restart it says somethign about eth0 not masked |
| 02:05.05 | lszyba1 | masked. i mean... |
| 02:05.22 | rant | maxzor: not to mention vnc alone unlike rdp has no security really.. |
| 02:05.24 | lszyba1 | what does that mean? why would eth0 not use my settings for static ip |
| 02:05.27 | abff | rant you can point x11vnc to only forward a single window, but it's still sluggish |
| 02:06.00 | maxzor | rant: I get it I had horrendous performance running a full vncserver on a raspberry pi0 |
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| 02:07.02 | rant | maxzor: xpra is a lot like ssh+screen but for X11 rather than console apps its really great |
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| 02:07.40 | lszyba1 | I think in debian 9 you no longer do /etc/init.d/networking restart... you do /etc/init.d/network-manager restart?? |
| 02:08.16 | rant | maxzor: just as I said to make it easier on yoursel, make sure you close xpra on the client not the virtualbox running as the xpra server's child process.. or else you'll have to ssh in and start xpra again |
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| 02:09.54 | maxzor | ill get used to it ok |
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| 02:32.19 | anonnumberanon | Hi what's the java way in Debian? Just want to write java programs and test them. |
| 02:34.59 | anonnumberanon | well it looks like i already had something: java --version |
| 02:35.21 | dvs | oprbjdk |
| 02:35.29 | dvs | openjdk |
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| 03:11.40 | maxzor | rant: this is not only to brag, mostly to ask about security : |
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| 03:12.18 | maxzor | (if u still here) I am delaying the departure from my parents home and they are on vacation : I cannot portforward |
| 03:12.41 | maxzor | I remembered I have access to a cloud debian machine at gandi.net |
| 03:13.22 | maxzor | I have setup a reverse ssh tunnel between my desktop and gandi (https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/46235/how-does-reverse-ssh-tunneling-work#46271) |
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| 03:13.52 | maxzor | and then i hop from my laptop to gandi, and then from gandi through the reverse tunnel to the desktop |
| 03:14.13 | rant | yeah that may introduce some lag *shrug* |
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| 03:15.12 | maxzor | right... |
| 03:19.03 | rant | maxzor: what sort of network equipment is in use at your parents house? (presumably where the server is) |
| 03:20.04 | maxzor | rant: im in france, isp is orange, I have a 2015 livebox and it has not ipv6, i have no access to that livebox |
| 03:20.07 | rant | maxzor: and you do realize the cpu virtualization is not actually required for virtualbox right? |
| 03:20.44 | maxzor | rant: well my meeting fellows had setup a 64 bit machine |
| 03:21.08 | maxzor | i asked at virtualbox irc for 64bit software virt and got told to fsck myself |
| 03:21.23 | rant | heh |
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| 03:23.20 | rant | maxzor: so this livebox, whatever that is, is not accessible to you? |
| 03:23.37 | rant | ie. you can't just plug directly into a modem? |
| 03:24.29 | maxzor | rant: not right now yes, ill learn port forwarding later - and have no modem |
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| 03:25.27 | rant | did you see if it supports upnp? |
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| 03:26.05 | rant | many routers support upnp and you dont need to be able to login to port forward |
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| 03:29.46 | rant | ,v upnp-router-control |
| 03:29.47 | judd | Package: upnp-router-control on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.2-1+b1; jessie: 0.2-1.2; buster: 0.2-1.2+b1; sid: 0.2-1.2+b1; stretch: 0.2-1.2+b1 |
| 03:29.58 | maxzor | that is tomorrow's learning^ |
| 03:30.07 | rant | thats a simple gui app |
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| 03:31.00 | bazhang | nice catch rant |
| 03:31.20 | rant | I found that app many years ago |
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| 03:42.38 | rant | if the router doesn't support upnp that app will not be able to show any information |
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| 03:45.08 | jcarpenter2 | hey, i'm trying to install npm... |
| 03:45.18 | jcarpenter2 | i installed nodejs and according to this page https://www.npmjs.com/get-npm?utm_source=house&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=free%20orgs&utm_term=Install%20npm npm is distributed with nodejs |
| 03:45.33 | jcarpenter2 | apparently there was an npm package in jessie, but not in stretch |
| 03:46.29 | jcarpenter2 | npm is not in the nodejs package that i installed |
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| 03:48.21 | annadane | jcarpenter2, https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Some_safer_ways_to_install_software_not_available_in_Debian_Stable |
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| 03:48.37 | annadane | iirc npm is available in sid, not buster... |
| 03:48.40 | annadane | ,v npm |
| 03:48.41 | judd | Package: npm on amd64 -- jessie: 1.4.21+ds-2; sid: 1.4.21+ds-2 |
| 03:48.48 | annadane | right, so you can try a simple sid backport |
| 03:48.57 | jcarpenter2 | okay |
| 03:48.57 | annadane | !ssb |
| 03:48.57 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 03:52.31 | jvava | do you know which mp3 player on debian can read lyrics from local the same folder as the mp3 file, I found all request lyrics from outer server, that's too bad |
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| 03:56.43 | jcarpenter2 | ended up using nvm |
| 03:57.00 | maxzor | !gcc make perl |
| 03:57.15 | maxzor | !gcc_make_perl |
| 03:57.31 | rant | jvava: try quodlibet |
| 03:57.51 | jvava | rant, ok, thank you |
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| 03:59.31 | jvava | rant, I have to try it on my notebook when I am back home, does it read the lyrics locally? |
| 03:59.58 | rant | jvava: doesnt say so in the package info put a google search suggested it did. I never tried it |
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| 04:01.50 | rant | jvava: its written in python which suggests its rather flexible, and "quod libet" means basically that in latin.. "whatever you want" or "whatever you wish" |
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| 04:03.46 | Shmam | When I close my razer blade stealth running the newest debian with updated kernel, the device doesnt go into sleep mode, it stays on. I need to open the lid and close it a second time and then it goes into sleep mode. Always works on the second time but never the first. Any suggestions? |
| 04:04.31 | jvava | rant, ok, thank you |
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| 04:15.19 | rant | Shmam: you'd want to figure out how the kernel reads the lid switch I suppose. Its likely the driver thats the issue. |
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| 04:16.08 | rant | Shmam: in my experience though its usually easier than hunting for source of kernel issues, to just grab and compile the latest kernel source and figure out if that solves the problem |
| 04:16.26 | Shmam | rant: I'm using openrazer drivers. Should I submit a bug report there? https://openrazer.github.io |
| 04:17.09 | rant | Shmam: I would certainly make them aware of the problem then.. with as much info as you can provide |
| 04:18.12 | jaggz | is there a place to search for source files in source packages? |
| 04:18.28 | rant | packages.debian.org |
| 04:18.30 | jaggz | normal web-based package search doesn't seem to work |
| 04:18.42 | jair | hello all I am getting this super slow delay when rebooting my system >> I checked on google and looks like it is something related to http://paste.debian.net/993975/ |
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| 04:19.33 | plasmodu1k | k |
| 04:19.49 | jair | I believe there is some sort of bug based on what I read online between masking or disabling the networking.service or NtworkManager.service |
| 04:19.51 | jaggz | rant, like https://paste.kde.org/pdavmhixv#line-3 a patch for kde plasma's something or other.. |
| 04:20.11 | jair | but none of them improved the speed still getting stuck when rebooting |
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| 04:22.17 | lszyba1 | hello, if I configure static ip in /etc/network/intefaces, then network manager is not handling that intefaces...but does it still handle resolve.conf? |
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| 04:40.29 | pinger | Hello! I am getting back to Debian after a 7 year hiatus in mac land. I need my key shortcuts behavior to be comfortable. Is there an easy way to change the key shortcut behavior to mac behavior? Super-Tab cycles between windows instead of alt-tab, super-L goes to the URL bar instead of control-L, etc? I've googled around a bit, but most things I find are about changing the key bindings on mac keyboards, not changing the shortcuts themse |
| 04:40.31 | pinger | lves |
| 04:40.57 | scyte | what DE are you using? |
| 04:41.45 | pinger | scyte: gnome3 for now |
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| 04:44.31 | scyte | I'm of no use then, haven't used it in ages |
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| 04:47.13 | annadane | pinger, 1) not a GNOME user 2) this is 3 years old but i did find https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/119432/save-custom-keyboard-shortcuts-in-gnome |
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| 04:49.15 | annadane | tl;dr system settings > keyboard > shortcuts |
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| 05:04.15 | healthpack | Are the optimizations on https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization still needed or is most of this done already on Debian 9? |
| 05:05.17 | annadane | "last modified 2017-9-17" and stretch was released in june |
| 05:05.30 | annadane | so once presumes this is up to date, ie written as stretch=stable as reference |
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| 05:05.57 | healthpack | Just because the page is updated doesn't mean the information is for the latest version. |
| 05:06.19 | annadane | no, you're quite right. this is why i said "presumes" but i shouldn't be so cavalier |
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| 05:06.51 | annadane | s/once/one |
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| 05:13.46 | pinger | Thanks all |
| 05:13.55 | pinger | Gnome Tweak is doing okay, but it's not perfect |
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| 05:14.54 | MrBasic4992 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:15.58 | annadane | MrBasic4992, change your password |
| 05:16.07 | anonnumberanon | lol |
| 05:16.18 | MrBasic4992 | total fuckup |
| 05:16.31 | MrBasic4992 | wow i have never been this stupid |
| 05:17.42 | anonnumberanon | cross on your bucket list: tell 2000 people your password |
| 05:18.54 | MrBasic4992 | yup thats never going to leave my head |
| 05:19.43 | MrBasic4992 | At least i was registering my new id |
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| 05:30.04 | blingrang | lol |
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| 05:41.23 | cujotus | good debian |
| 05:41.24 | cujotus | lol |
| 05:41.28 | cujotus | debian rox |
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| 05:44.50 | babs | invoke-rc.d: initscript x11-common, action "stop" failed |
| 05:44.59 | babs | im trying to remove x11-common |
| 05:45.02 | babs | any ideas? |
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| 05:45.29 | annadane | i assume you're in wayland and not actually in x right now |
| 05:45.37 | annadane | i'd be weary of removing that in any case |
| 05:45.52 | annadane | if it says action "stop" failed it implies you're actually in an x session |
| 05:46.03 | annadane | s/weary/wary |
| 05:46.09 | babs | im on the cli |
| 05:46.16 | annadane | okay |
| 05:46.19 | babs | no wayland even installed |
| 05:46.24 | babs | afaik |
| 05:46.34 | babs | it seems the service file just doesn't exist |
| 05:46.43 | babs | it cant/couldnt be started or stopped |
| 05:47.09 | babs | but the problem is this stops apt from doing anything |
| 05:47.14 | babs | so I need to solve this this issue |
| 05:47.31 | babs | basically I just want x11-common gone |
| 05:47.39 | babs | and/or any of its deps |
| 05:48.16 | annadane | weird how it would prevent normal functioning of apt |
| 05:48.34 | babs | *all fuctioning of apt |
| 05:48.57 | babs | so is there any way to force-remove it? |
| 05:49.12 | babs | ignoring the service file that does not exist? |
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| 05:52.10 | babs | also dpkg has no /var/lib/dpkg/status according to it, but yet the file exists |
| 05:53.47 | babs | come to think of it thats probably the root issue |
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| 06:52.59 | Agiofws | i'm running debian 9 and for some reason i can't set a permanent rule in iptables i'm trying to open port 9101 and i can apply the rule but when i reboot the rule vanishes. My first question would be where is debian 9 reading the rules for iptables? because i think the problem is there |
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| 06:57.40 | nku | Agiofws: install something like iptables-persistent |
| 06:58.05 | n4dir | per default iptables doesn't run, so you wouldn't need to open the port in the first place. imho |
| 06:58.30 | nku | right, that too |
| 06:58.34 | n4dir | !iptables |
| 06:58.34 | dpkg | [iptables] The user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter. Ask me about <netfilter docs>. For a proper Debian-way of setting up iptables, see http://wiki.debian.org/iptables or ask me about <iptables-restore>. http://netfilter.org/ #netfilter on irc.freenode.net. See also <ferm>, <lartc>, <masq>, <ulogd>. |
| 06:58.50 | n4dir | for me the page at wiki.debian.org was enough, but it really didn't do much. |
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| 08:09.30 | anddam | metastable: thanks, I'm going with | tail -c 1 |
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| 08:10.13 | anddam | metastable: I actually asked "in dash" to see if dash had a specific syntax, like bash does, I actually knew how to get the last character with external tools already |
| 08:10.16 | l9 | anyone up? I hear no sound i think, i might have gone deaf |
| 08:10.32 | annadane | l9, hi, just ask your question |
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| 08:13.46 | l9 | annadane: i upgraded too sid last night and wow bad things happend. first i need too find the sound again, i can see the sound card listed in alsamixer but it gets no inputs |
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| 08:14.27 | annadane | l9, okay, well, as you can see, the question is being addressed in #next |
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| 09:15.07 | l9 | wuuuhu I AM NOT DEAF :D still chromium broke tho |
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| 09:23.33 | CrazyTux | hello, I just installed debian 9 xfce. I am installing kde-plasma-desktop on it. Which display manager should I choose? |
| 09:23.47 | CrazyTux | lightdm or sddm? |
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| 09:25.41 | tdn | I get this error in syslog multiple times a day: "Device: /dev/sdd [SAT], 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors". I guess some sector of a disk is unreadable and pending for relocation. But why do I keep getting this message? I mean, I have already seen that it is a problem, I do not need to get the message in the TTY/console multiple times a day. How to fix? |
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| 09:26.00 | CrazyTux | hello.. |
| 09:26.06 | CrazyTux | any solutions? |
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| 09:29.32 | xand | tdn: replace the harddisk |
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| 09:30.26 | tdn | xand, because of a single sector pending for relocation? |
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| 09:31.25 | l9 | CrazyTux: lightdm |
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| 09:32.21 | CrazyTux | l9: I chose sddm. |
| 09:32.24 | l9 | tdn: it would fix the error at least :P |
| 09:32.50 | l9 | CrazyTux: isnt it wonderfully this power of choice we have been given ? |
| 09:33.22 | CrazyTux | l9: I don't know which one is correct. Just a newbie here. |
| 09:33.28 | l9 | xand: you know this there is no sound in chromium and sound in google-chrome what am i missing? |
| 09:33.41 | l9 | CrazyTux: did it work? |
| 09:34.08 | CrazyTux | l9: the process is yet to complete. |
| 09:34.48 | l9 | CrazyTux: then you will see if your choice worked or not. ;) |
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| 09:35.28 | CrazyTux | l9: ok |
| 09:35.32 | CrazyTux | thanks a lot |
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| 09:36.27 | l9 | running linux is diffrent from windows, linux breaks and can be fixed just as easly |
| 09:36.48 | CrazyTux | ok |
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| 09:37.43 | l9 | take my desktop i lost sound cause of a upgrade took me couple of hours too fix it |
| 09:38.12 | l9 | well chromium still has no sound |
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| 09:40.39 | simbalion | how do I choose a different package listed with 'apt-cache policy packagename'? |
| 09:40.43 | CrazyTux | ok. Installed KDE. Let me reboot now. |
| 09:40.48 | simbalion | I want to roll a package back a version or two |
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| 09:41.48 | simbalion | nvm found the answer |
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| 09:47.41 | l9 | there we have sound on chromium too :D |
| 09:47.49 | l9 | corrupt user profile |
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| 09:51.04 | Iridos | simbalion, easiest ist the .deb that you may still have in /var/cache/apt/archives⦠else, there *should* be all package versions ever at http://snapshot.debian.org/ |
| 09:51.27 | carlitros | Hi. Good morning |
| 09:51.30 | simbalion | Thanks I found how to do it using apt-get install package=version |
| 09:51.52 | Iridos | uh, is this testing? |
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| 09:53.33 | Iridos | package=version shouldn't usually be possible, because the older version you want to roll back to is replaced by the newer ones in the archives (with the exception of a package from backports going back to stable or a package from unstable and going back to the one from testing) |
| 09:54.12 | Iridos | (and you shouldn't install packages from testing into stable) |
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| 10:49.18 | isec | hi all |
| 10:49.34 | isec | o/ |
| 10:50.13 | isec | smell like an old forget cheese or? |
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| 10:50.55 | isec | can i ask something about strecth? |
| 10:51.12 | isec | i cnt disable ipv6 on boot |
| 10:51.40 | Dagger | you shouldn't be disabling it at all, on boot or otherwise |
| 10:51.54 | isec | i can |
| 10:52.13 | Dagger | if it's causing a problem, we're long past the point where you need to be fixing the problem rather than burying your head in the sand |
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| 10:54.14 | isec | i edit this file |
| 10:54.49 | isec | i edit systcl.conf |
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| 10:55.15 | isec | and i ad somme rules for disbling ipv6 |
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| 10:56.02 | CrazyTux | does Synapse work on Debian 9? |
| 10:56.07 | isec | but i need to sysctl -p on every boot to make that change working |
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| 10:56.55 | babilen | isec: You really shouldn't have to disable ipv6 - why do you think you have to? |
| 10:57.08 | CrazyTux | does Synapse work on Debian 9? |
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| 10:59.28 | jelly | isec, use a kernel boot parameter. |
| 10:59.39 | jelly | dpkg, tell isec about noipv6 |
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| 11:01.04 | jelly | isec, but yeah in general things ought to Just Work even if the system has no v6 connectivity and only link-local v6 addresses |
| 11:01.22 | babilen | But why fix that? |
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| 11:17.30 | isec | but i need to sysctl -p on every boot to make that change working |
| 11:17.49 | isec | thanks all |
| 11:18.00 | isec | i have my answer |
| 11:18.05 | isec | you are the nest guys |
| 11:18.09 | babilen | You don't (see the kernel boot parameter in your private message) |
| 11:18.10 | isec | best* |
| 11:18.20 | isec | i see it |
| 11:18.25 | babilen | And you shouldn't have to as we/you could just fix the actual problem |
| 11:18.48 | isec | ? |
| 11:19.08 | isec | oups i fogot the command |
| 11:19.24 | isec | forgot |
| 11:20.26 | isec | ?dpkg, tell isec about noipv6 |
| 11:20.30 | isec | dpkg, tell isec about noipv6 |
| 11:20.57 | isec | dpkg thze best |
| 11:20.57 | dpkg | isec: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 11:21.09 | isec | thanks jelly |
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| 11:37.35 | SimonB | Probably a stupid question, but on Stetch it is LXC2 in the repos? or am I missing something with 1.x'esque commands? |
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| 11:40.18 | Iridos | judd, versions lxc |
| 11:40.19 | judd | Package: lxc on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.8.0~rc1-8+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 1:1.0.6-6+deb8u2~bpo70+1; jessie-security: 1:1.0.6-6+deb8u2; jessie: 1:1.0.6-6+deb8u6; jessie-backports: 1:2.0.7-2~bpo8+1; stretch: 1:2.0.7-2; buster: 1:2.0.9-3; sid: 1:2.0.9-4 |
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| 11:42.10 | Iridos | 2.0.7 ⦠the 1: should be the epoch |
| 11:42.13 | Iridos | dpkg, version epoch |
| 11:42.31 | dpkg | The version number of a package has a prepended number called the "epoch". It is only added when the system for upstream version numbers changes. Example: in sarge, X was version 6.8 but in etch it was 1.1 (xfree86->xorg). But 1 < 6, so we add an epoch "2:" to signify that everything with 2: is newer (if there is no : the epoch is assumed to be "0"). See section 5.6.12 of <policy> or ask me about <compare versions> <debian revision>. |
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| 11:42.43 | SimonB | Iridos: Thats what I mean... 'stretch: 1:2.0.7-2' but wheres the lxc command? its lxc-create, lxc-start, lxc-attach... which I thought was a lxc1 thing. |
| 11:43.37 | marsje | I'm using exim and spamassassin in debian 8 and I'd like to make spamassassin treat SPF fails more seriously. I added SPF_FAIL to my local.cf and ran sa-compile which gives me an error. Do I need to install this extra rule, and if yes, how? |
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| 11:45.58 | Iridos | I don't really use lxc of either version, so I can't answer that⦠look in /usr/share/doc/lxc* for anything debian-specific that has been done for/to the package⦠maybe programs were renamed/aliased or so |
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| 12:17.56 | realbadhorse | i have a debian desktop and i was wondering if it is possible to achieve full disk encryption after installation.. |
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| 12:21.40 | mutante | realbadhorse: not really, best you can do is encrypt your home dir https://askubuntu.com/questions/96870/is-there-a-way-to-do-full-disk-encryption-after-the-install what i would do is backup files, reinstall, copy them back |
| 12:21.54 | mutante | oops, sorry for the Ubuntu link |
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| 12:26.50 | marakel | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: Hobbyboy sanmarcos Cabanossi rooty_ Namikaze ivan tomocha_ rednul darkstalker Nach0z Purec MonsterKiller ScottE rudi_s BiGBOi edwardly Johann nux teraflops johefernan csh-harmf ZetFury WernerVonCroy CtrlC kevy0 anddam Asoka schornacht preview n0nada hramrach limbo_ Skywave dayten sn0wmonster finlstrm cateye db` sheepletoniii Voldenet karstensrage Comstock tw cendo pelegreno_ Eryn_1983_FL Amplificator |
| 12:26.51 | chicorico | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: iskatu planetmaker neskau bryceml georgeowell cthuluh thinkpad Snakes APexil dak seprob Rubin SolarAquarion rlange trench uptime jandrusk conta th0r_ denken klys llucenic rymax99 NeoBlaster sheedy croddy Kamilion deltam uNmowed Hooloovo0 stmiller Abbott v4s- Ekho tarzeau frlttrwrd AndrewPRS nickdastain db` kevr Kendo_Cocaine situ` dmos lsv `z namix meLon nbags hue rysiek|pl |
| 12:26.51 | chicorico | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: rvb89 kInOzAwA Jim[m] x-fak johnnyfive bipul gftg Pricey Dev0n jhutchins duoi cadeskywalker LambdaCalculus37 NoxiousPluK overlord_tm m4rCsi spanglesontoast x10 noexcept _indzin meLon Funk pfote catsup skott ioudas^working epsilon pokeguylow zululee el crash_ luckman212 telcoguy____ debhelper nnyby beardy PIBER Voldenet _rubik PhilSliderS iodev uwd dave4925 hns Skaag stoffepojken Scotteh_ hexa- |
| 12:26.51 | flirtca | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: banging bryceml nopf nux kwmiebach Aristide lift s0ph0s disi EmleyMoor brimonk SporkWitch BenderRodriguez precise|otter simbalion hank xcin goberle aedinius pingveno bcd conta Alina-malina csh-harmful jrabe Rhuarc Kamilion systo EnchanterTim toozej hiya DXR preaction Exagone313 qqx peope soulz ephemer0l MyIgel ivan yen0p folivora_ Abbott grinsekatze tonyoy grumble eMaks iskatu FinalX graytron |
| 12:26.51 | flirtca | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: Ralin3 tugrik evotopid CME kbob jrtc27 ChanServ lukky513 daemonkeeper rax- enkrypt aedinius atomi ongolaBoy bluszcz Ruebezahl bane5000 alprazolam eir SolarAquarion TonyL cef gagrio luneff Ellied mcintosh DammitJim beaver noxs unixbassen flokuehn vivid syamaoka sharky croddy gvvg_ etp QualityAddict mrm webuser5224 uxfi SimonB turfrex sn0wmonster Funk nagetier ThomasJ|d fujisan Guest84846 sine0 |
| 12:26.51 | marakel | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: stmiller Carno rolig seyeongkim michael_mbp pztrick tsia Nightmare uNmowed Relicka tabakhase domovoy Laun dirac1 vOYtEC profall Kendo_Cocaine matrix_architect Trel kanzure hassoon yuastnav hexnewbie magenbrot w0bni duoi lchlan a64 Marlon edi EnchanterTim toine42 wybczu benjen Cisien Rhuarc clorophormo dionysus69 thallada fleaz tdn maf_p kalebo FabTG_ james41382 lavenders __3r1c__ stefanc_diff daemonk |
| 12:26.51 | ssmm | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: alexbligh1 d1b internot dwar graingert Riku volter TuxShells sandroandrade vaidy brolin_empey preaction DonArmstrong peterrooney Quantumcross johefernan tekk kunwon1 nurupo Haohmaru benaiah r00tobo solos wybczu APLU precise|otter Python1320 joze denken turfrex hexhaxtron nac crash_ kbob dusares_ chicorico ma jrabe Trellmor gnugr Mikail Keitaro _rubik thalos flirtca Blanco Kharec ChrisH Ch krzych |
| 12:26.51 | rus | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: msantana ikonia terr1 vonsyd0w_ kirkland sasukeskapa situ` Nomads thekingofbandit Alina-malina f3bruary m4dh4tt4 vincent_c cyberzeus me1 uxfi nnyby glebihan sasha Rothgar dr XSoul Spec shingouz levifig Tulah LucaTM sophiya bionix patsToms r3m quite zyley acperkins fujisan epsilon disposable2 nux Trieste sirecote `ryban bzed tommaso noodle admiral0 mukmuk __3r1c__ redrabbit Olipro fury_ |
| 12:26.51 | uhfqeon | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: nickdastain benjen toine42 ozzloy electrostat darkalia Archrover jazz chomwitt hirow dubwoc lionhertz dos1 precise|otter idmistir Dr-Shadow MicroCheapFx remote vOYtEC kingsley nrs_ Igel_ jmcnaught Haohmaru tsukuyomi evilman_work Merixer Zorroness_ chele seekr duoi Cueball LeandroLuiz Brian- Snewp sdx23 Ruebezahl pawalls Arroyo1010 zululee flipp n4cht toruvinn Sciuro flirtca wyre Zauberfisch Renari elysi |
| 12:26.51 | lucr3zi4b | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: Zorroness_ haircode zwamkat nikow smurfd jeffmr poopnfrsh dysfigured hirow himuraken_ Trieste tsukuyomi conta vamiry tccki CEnnis91 rvb89 Peetz0r Infra_HDC tadz Spydar007 sjk eblip Mottengrotte lmcloughlin chele kline przemoc freakyy RoyK ShaRose epsilon SupaYoshi Quick_Wango hue adi goberle Keitaro peterandre chalcedony Serpent7776 aerbax_ kbob NonParity evilman_work Mazhive p0g colo-work tiin57 |
| 12:26.51 | rus | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: blacksyke DocHopper tapout ArlequInOut XeonSquared gareth__ dsnow_ alchemistswl pztrick cadillac_ elysium elliot007 Comnenus avantgardist llimeht Haohmaru guideline volodim bvs somepoortech SimonB Amun_Ra msantana or4n PhonicUK ectospasm marsje mort icxcnika disposable cooldude _aeris_ James_T nshp rolig Rhuarc _bsurfer ericnoan ripdog Sri_Designer TimWolla Speed2u WARBIRD199 Kamilion Smither guios gby Mea |
| 12:26.51 | flirtca | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: gnugr HelloShitty benj__ James_T tensorpudding satbyy dijenerate_ ezra-s peterS geard Attoy prasket Arrowmaster Fusl Natrick olegfusion webbyz craysiii kunwon1 SolarAquarion jackNemrod blueness beuker vaidy BenderRodriguez apollojustice ageis electrikapricot EnchanterTim kirkland ski ZetFury fcanela bazhang situ` nshp frostschutz serban RobertClarke shadoxx cendo Comnenus mz` cy8aer Purec valdyn fchar |
| 12:26.51 | flirtca | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: tec__ bionix NeilHanlon themill maf_p alprazolam Deific llimeht loeken konimex jonvonb greenbagels nix-7 clopez Velgor ThomasJ|d ScottE Hijiri cyphix adi cooldude blackest_mamba phenom tapout Attoy rakor tsia hank rofl_ simp ArlequInOut ptx0 _aeris_ thnee gonyere czer00 nagetier jdiez Hink situ` `Kevin dubwoc azizLIGHT metastable Digz bla fred`` basicmiracle Rico bipul |
| 12:26.51 | flirtca | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: CowboyNeal Zorroness_ nezZa `ryban {41444d494e} Tulah jhutchins koltrast High_Priest tobiw kale scoopex AndrewPRS rOss^64 alchemistswl bolt shingouz w0bni MeltedLux runde pk12 TMan459 tvm dselect bcd krzych GNU\colossus Kobaz wingman2 Marlon installibre Kamilion sulvone dayten cendo ezra-s Sveta gareth__ dax amcorrei1 me1 trobotham ngc0202 cef LiENUS alecov Mad_Hat Mottengrotte Orbitrix gagrio |
| 12:26.51 | marakel | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: lchlan lavenders fury_ chen bitgeek LambdaCalculus37 dinoocch nO0b strungout debhelper ledixus RickXy hns rus yen0p Incepti0n leochill LeandroLuiz Roedy danwellby sheedy Guest20101 thms rafalcpp sielicki sheepletoniii Frikilinux AlwaysHigh gonyere tommaso matrix_architect RH_IO sirhobbes3 rdz sptnx chiluk turfal etp seprob petemc blackmajic nyuszika7h alecov ski maik Zharf jareth_ phorce1 benpro argu |
| 12:26.51 | maxsil | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: eMaks sudhackar noexcept sweatsuit himuraken_ krups remy blingrang zer0_x ZetFury afx237 SupaYoshi cryptodan_mobile Acidburn73 Mad_Hat _MMx Archrover Aristide bcd cyphix abff Quantumcross hobbyquaker ChrisH benj__ Iridos rOss^64 s7r Kamilion jareth_ ioudas^working sekjun9878 magyar Zauberfisch swaechter jolt sasha sandman13 Deific lionhertz msb fooctrl PIBER `Kevin Anne Firztspawn Sir_Pony Sveta Dj_De |
| 12:26.51 | shanzib | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: Olufunmilayo karstensrage Hijiri icxcnika mossman jhebden sveva65 GhostInTheShell Comnenus zmachine pfoo SPF JyZyXEL shannara ericnoan thnee sinduck tkla hexhaxtron dubwoc hele altendky nagetier Xyle SimonB enki elkmoose Ekho Arianna LeandroLuiz Mazhive maroloccio Fusl probono darkalia Strife89 sndb hue shtirlic nwe cnu- Kitty Skywave grinsekatze zl33pyr RickXy quasisane celyr twisted` loptr |
| 12:26.51 | cajunbab | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: LioneLL vvande woshty iskatu yen0p __marco biancat HeXiLeD Dev0n inaki ariador Defaultti hexa- k4tfish gagrio MonsterKiller kbob gardar dirac1 idmistir nkuttler eblip Agiofws bipolar nrs_ electrostat tkla SJX kriskropd RebelCoder sine0 leochill zupzupper SuperSeriousCat jager hayer elirovi bobe patterson przemoc noxs hid3 timeless kale lchlan lord_helmet iNs glick spacewrk- sdx23 |
| 12:26.51 | shanzib | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: atf t0ne linuxthefish jackNemrod pppktz Nomads kInOzAwA Vorpal kmd monty sasha sweatsuit samtunez musalbas sukaeto xistens3 naos62 vutral jlacroix ariador syd niko mete quasisane Hink bachler bolt loptr `z gratuxri ask oberste1n L235 scyte twisted` amcorrei1 ArlequInOut foul_owl Jdbye SolarAquarion rachelfish dselect enkrypt Janhouse alxd Ein karstensrage Tempesta devurandom RebelCoder |
| 12:26.51 | shanzib | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: dark`hear Trel chalcedony blazeme8 kevy0 zerick Waggie woshty zymurgy blackest_mamba sukaeto sputnik enkrypt mcint ch ketralnis anexit_ nnyby Toris Olipro HotSwap duoi Se-bash styks1987 f0x ask jackNemrod freakyy integral Jguy Namikaze Piggy DocHopper NoCode riex gareth__ makz RT_FM electrostat systo Ring0` magenbrot rooty_ toine42 romana Gaaab nebul8 icxcnika Atlas mhall119 |
| 12:26.51 | lucr3zi4b | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: devurandom Iridos n-st james41382 futex metallic_ JyZyXEL karstensrage stmiller ToeSnacks ebarrett Saar s7r gmh bumbar JPT marienz JZA TuxShells Tr4sK nurupo dusares_ mort volter musti LioneLL milobit biancat fujisan Jdbye shingouz Namikaze turlutton tobiw [ CME m8 simonlnu ceptor michaelni dos1 Asoka Adbray NightShade Gaaab `ryban Quick_Wango Rothgar electrostat JesseWalling |
| 12:26.51 | cajunbab | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: hiya Baudelaire sndb CapsAdmin hue rakor Trel dayten installibre aedinius diabel_ enkrypt frostschutz Zorroness_ L235 imMute loptr pokeguylow f4cl3y maxzor Ring0` kalebo Incepti0n Linlz cy8aer judd Posterdati goberle pvoigt dak thiagoss cheapie hobbyquaker toine42 adi ioudas^working krups GrimKriegor Archrover esaym153 Tsutsukakushi snadge GGMethos jhill foul_owl Sleepy63 sheepletoniii j3x Sri_De |
| 12:26.51 | cajunbab | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: Graypup_ adrenaline Ishaq bier rofl_ syd seprob patterson jhutchins FabTG_ Ein Kilo`byte pierrot jonasbits marakel LucaTM abu0 codingquark dec0n mort phenomcd kale Nach0z Tiffon juhop shannara ToeSnacks neskau alxd pokeguylow bitch gvvg_ craysiii fooctrl nrs_ nwe hank _aeris_ treaki_ nku JC_SoCal Elirips thinkpad klys SPF xistens3 djz88 Nevolution2 riex KindOne |
| 12:26.52 | marakel | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: miklcct Nigh kuchi cendo bove pron anunakki uNmowed mossman Chex cusco toruvinn lukky513 Aebian sqz kanzure Olufunmilayo SJX _bsurfer lmcloughlin digdilem patsToms jmsx ejsf swordsmanz rypervenche blacksyke blazeme8 hiroki zwamkat XDS2010|AFK lord_helmet oberling Kamilion Riku SuperSeriousCat Sveta michaelni Skaag fatalerrors _tremo oojacoboo kirb pseubodot enoch85 tobiasBora sirhobbes3 lchlan sheedy |
| 12:26.52 | marakel | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: e1z0 Slumlord_ trobotham karlamrhein eb0t `slikts conta wtalleghany gratuxri noexcept jrtc27 Brian- elik Groenleer Galihom tomreyn poopnfrsh Janhouse futex thiagoss blazeme8 deltam anddam nicdev boxrick dmos dinoocch Tristan-Speccy kbob bb36e nolsen brizz tobiw kj4 shtirlic or4n GTAXL pseubodot clopez planetmaker glebihan LioneLL Rubin Fjorgynn fnkr hue goberle Iridos maxzor qqx |
| 12:26.52 | boeds | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: phinxy riex sobkas ongolaBoy realbadhorse yuastnav freanux apollo13 nac sussudio bvdk msantana Atlas apt malm nadersith torrezno civillian skney ozzloy RebelCoder akxwi-dave maxzor twisted` boturk haircode Sabaku baba_ benpro dysfigured kh AlwaysHigh noxs rus MrGeneral remy SerajewelKS WizardGed Tiffon ssmm matrix_architec jolt serban [Echelon] AciD` somnambler zymurgy zl33pyr bpsecret Janhouse |
| 12:26.52 | shanzib | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: rxo lavenders rr TReK Ssquidly Scotteh_ Delf debhelper sjk GTAXL metallic_ adrenaline ludova woshty Hydroxide Trieste jhebden RoyK Arrowmaster CEnnis91 gardar turfrex konimex iNs Geistes BaW schornacht Cabanossi fooctrl jhutchins DustyDingo supersoju sophiya bipul r3 admiral0 NoCode tarzeau brouette NeoBlaster netzach bachler _indzin m712 adac simbalion dirac1 uwd kidney_thief sandeepkr |
| 12:26.52 | maxsil | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: Frikilinux cyphix MicroCheapFx hex2a alchemistswl Dragon092 DocHopper Vorpal StathisA olegfusion Otyg gacekjk jmnk n-st SQL jonvonb tabakhase necrogami rhizome XSoul debsan zululee mossman graytron Croepha TReK Roedy HauM1 basicmiracle nighty- synthmeat ziongate SkyPatrol petan Diaoul breitenj Speed2u Mrloafbot_ moss sophiya remote nbags gluon dxrt MrAlexandr0 boubou volodim tsia avantgardist lazouz |
| 12:26.52 | maxsil | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: hex2a roguelazer WebDawg gehaxelt _systemd_is_evil nux gluon Linlz jannic aindilis cthuluh n-st loptr JasonO lazouz shingouz krzych NonParity M3mphiZ magyar botho leochill jakew TimWolla Ekho ChmEarl milobit superkulak lsyoyom m712 blackwell toine42 turfal cdown Sciuro nprs Tybor sirecote blackmajic fiQmob rant adellam jmnk verboese thoros Jamboy kriskropd Shahnaz_ argusbr musalbas |
| 12:26.52 | shanzib | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: L235 tommaso `slikts blackmajic niko XSoul rachelfish dustinm` dmos dirac1 nathanhi or4n elirovi Scotteh_ tardyp tabris `Kevin rofl_ ttbiis lmcloughlin twisted` edi kwmiebach bvdk f10_ sobkas Noah0504 Acidburn73 Jguy spacebison Aristar s0ph0s Asoka alxy opal Hydroxide dtux Spiffy HotSwap overlord_tm mutante superkulak ForceRecon dudz lru peterS Nomads Olipro distantorigin Renari |
| 12:26.52 | cajunbab | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: tw chiluk Xyle AlexZ_ hank f4cl3y CapsAdmin darkalia tekmo d-k treegor cy8aer grinsekatze staircrusher tsukuyomi ruslan_m Posterdati Baudelaire georgeowell win SaltySolomon r3m beuker simp SuperSeriousCat opal eMaks Eloy turfal Namikaze marakel Ximensi0ns blackmajic admiral0 sqz NeilHanlon Artemis3 Rothgar gratuxri jhill oberling FinalX martinus__ abff msev- synthmeat conspacer lru dijenerate_ ni |
| 12:26.52 | cajunbab | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: kbob martinus__ trewas digdug__ obad konimex thunderrd disposable morphis freakyy lmcloughlin thallada dave4925 iter Renari tiin57 rolig UUID00 NightShade cbdev nnyby dTal pcdummy TimWolla ^v r00tobo kirkland rofl_ Druid Fastolp Spiffy Dj_Dexter jdiez Quick_Wango klow MrDetonia gusnan [Echelon] dwar thiagoss beardy [Brain] sndb diabel_ quite phantomcircuit _indzin bionix pyllyukko hue |
| 12:26.52 | boeds | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: Canucktux deetwelve Speed2u toruvinn bmixed[m] alexbligh1 Cueball treaki_ edi tw thoros xiqy sidewalk tolecnal ngc0202 noexcept kwmiebach sndb lsyoyom leachim6 finlstrm Agiofws nodauf tccki mumixam awhitlock8 angular_mike joze Pelle` uptime Mysterytrain trewas Guest76936 Nomads doogaille nauticalnexus Puckel_ Haohmaru wingman2 adac Nothing4You cvr Riku preaction cef Arrowmaster glebihan_ A|TARIS Olufunm |
| 12:26.52 | cajunbab | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: nagetier biancat LucaTM HotSwap Pedr0 dustinm` d-fence_ treegor gmh systo croddy magnulu cef eldritch debhelper cadeskywalker admiral0 pingveno domovoy TonyL inspectorcluseau finlstrm mossman pyllyukko installibre Geistes karlamrhein mutante Mazhive nicdev Typhon BaW kalebo quasisane bryceml bipolar rakor tomreyn pron phorce1 tkla skott Aebian pierrot tadz l9 [Brain] satanist CrazyTux Rothgar |
| 12:26.52 | maxsil | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: llimeht rOss^64 grinsekatze afx237 MrDetonia SporkWitch shadoxx edwardly Agiofws guideline spanglesontoast deltam Anarchic Scotteh_ frazr Cueball atomi angular_mike tarzeau n0nada quite helldorado Funk hex2a lungaro chaology flyingkiwi paulgrmn riex Chex Apeiron` donut_ DustyDingo jdn_ Schmantinski Arsiesys krups Haxxa conta phorce1 DoctorD90 jareth_ matix yemel sethkush patsToms NickyP Fjorgynn BaW m |
| 12:26.52 | maxsil | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: gnugr ice Deflate sukaeto georgeowell tw flirtca styks1987 disposable2 planetmaker tonyoy lukasdboer sirhobbes3 nux synthmeat bachler Geistes LeandroLuiz heinrich5991 scoobertron gagrio loeken le_pig BenderRodriguez typosaurus n0nada matrix_architect b0l3x phorce1_1ome grim4593 ikevin lsyoyom rungcc_ Ralin3 anddam rax- ebarrett hele rvb89 sobkas aedinius timeless Funk n-st TReK Pelle` sim590 abracadan |
| 12:26.52 | boeds | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: shanzib Haohmaru s0ph0s p0rt towo^work zmachine amospalla samouy turfal Ryushin ScottE sukaeto ultralow czarodzie ToeSnacks vaidy Toris Velgor palinuro kj4 anunakki EnergyCoffee patterson BbT0n Ticho kidney_thief xiqy adc blazeme8 Zharf nog3_ michaelni Zardoz RebelCoder netrace nomad_dw _0x5eb_ sputnik clorophormo kus_ubuntui686 XDS2010|AFK alexises toorop llucenic AlwaysHigh Commander1024 Sabotender bl |
| 12:26.52 | shanzib | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: cateye CapsAdmin kmd iskatu paulgrmn genpaku p3rs3us CrypticSquared CeBe ask nwe Sveta magenbrot rooty_ martinus__ nikolah stmiller rOss^64 richardjohn tobias1 rxo Delf sunkan Schmiel hiroki Kitty thiagoss fnkr amcorrei1 DonArmstrong FinalX Skywave glebihan kus_ubuntui686 Ard1t jmsx kopper soahccc samtunez RoyK UUID00 blacksyke lru el f10_ boubou biancat CyberJacob n4cht GrimKriegor |
| 12:26.52 | shanzib | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: [Echelon] inaki guideline churnd nikow klys metastable hayer RoyK banc Abbott iter vivid Zerant rofl_ High_Priest vutral zululee lroe LorD_n1c0w Nomads skott Pjusur rafalcpp phantomcircuit dijenerate_ Xyle toorop gby rizzo sussudio peterS quite sasha catsup her0 dselect Amun_Ra inspectorcluseau torjeh konimex KindOne nickle electrostat urzds riex boturk Eloy CapsAdmin toine42 |
| 12:26.52 | sgyzpjd | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: Ani- SPF bier awhitlock8 dayten tw f4cl3y Atlas BroTroxer snkcld __3r1c__ catsup lbatalha blueness baum magnulu simbalion DustyDingo jakew nprs Arkaniad lionhertz grew sn0wmonster LambdaCalculus37 Mazhive salmankh croddy chiluk cef xcin probono marakel NightShade daniel2 ghormoon keith4 d-k Scotteh_ lru ws2k3 ongolaBoy blind ttbiis mnuhmnuh xar- ghostyy torch2319 jdiez Nomads |
| 12:27.03 | czarodzie | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: Acidburn73 lstanley nathanhi AndrewPRS typosaurus amcorrei1 gorgabal hexhaxtron xistens3 Letze_ n Delf Nitori necrogami totonika miklcct Smuckerz rOss^64 thms ArlequInOut graingert me1 Scuttle niko hicks_ Jacob843 eb0t quite grinsekatze woshty zwamkat MichaelSasser Kyoku nebul8 codebam kirkland SleePy Mikail oojacoboo Abbott tobiw zl33pyr dTal altendky dos1 AlexZ_ Iridos alexlist Sciuro Adbray |
| 12:27.03 | czarodzie | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: bumbar riex mz` mukmuk krups Esya akxwi-dave argusbr HotSwap ariador darkstalker cadeskywalker bipul duckydan strass Dagger scoobertron brouette dustinm` Hijiri Asoka Ard1t adellam nprs rus nux lavenders sjk georgeowell donut_ Ticho styks1987 tvm obad spritian hawken nickdastain treegor mossman sussudio Natrick sulvone mf|cloud Zauberfisch LordLamer amcorrei1 kirkland nrs_ Pugabyte Serpent7776 |
| 12:27.04 | czarodzie | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: JustASlacker ChmEarl Purec nomad_dw damiano yepla magenbrot esainane rus Hijiri scyte seprob dudz foul_owl adds68__ pingveno le_pig Kitty Rubin bazhang overlord_tm jdn_ dxrt iodev disposable evilman_work ceptor Ani- solarnetone UUID00 NonParity gratuxri distantorigin nyaomi Infra_3600 Rukus Dragon092 aedinius karstensrage typosaurus sn0wmonster or4n koollman patsToms rxo jareth_ Peetz0r s0ph0s kchr |
| 12:27.04 | czarodzie | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: adellam elliot007 Delta-One Dr-Shadow toozej rafalcpp Arieh kevr ScottE jmsx shahri MarioBranco opal Eloy jhutchins volter jeffmr pingveno uptime sangy riex Attoy namix bureado marakel plicease jareth_ TMan459 benpro krups interd0me petan likcoras Galihom inspectorcluseau ggherdov graingert blackest_mamba swordsmanz kchr Ekho conta abu0 Firztspawn phenomcd paradizelost lukky513 Xjs|moonshine Orbsth |
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| 12:27.05 | czarodzie | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: `slikts cmam JZA nebul8 CrazyTux blue wonderworld obiwahn Len rrva max-m JyZyXEL naos62 tccki slack_ koollman torrezno adelyne FabTG_ guideline edvb krups spacebi Rockj Waggie hue MichaelSasser mirsal quite m8 eb0t Nefertiti pfoo NightKhaos tarzeau p3rs3us MeanEYE_ pztrick Pugabyte czesmir noa churnd TonyL tvm Atlas cryptic goberle installibre Nach0z sdx23 |
| 12:27.05 | czarodzie | EMERSON LUVS +Z. IT SHOWS HIS INABILITY TO HANDLE SPAM!!: georgeowell Xjs|moonshine slax0r ludova frazr jhebden chomwitt installibre gregf JZA tabakhase Artox bb36e malm ChanServ treaki_ Eloy SodaPhish tabris sheepletoniii RT_FM Tulah _systemd_is_evil Pseudo jesopo eblip hele lord_helmet K1rk deltam saboru juhop nog3_ magnulu Mathisen Delf bradjones nyuszika7h ivan SQL zululee `z plicease tvm guios enki pinnen staircrusher yemel koollman |
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| 12:27.59 | ioudas^working | boy. if only debian could write a decent script to stop this kinda stuff |
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| 12:28.24 | ioudas^working | it would only require 1 actual line of code |
| 12:28.28 | colo-work | if only all these morons would cease to exist |
| 12:28.50 | vutral | hello |
| 12:28.54 | mutante | one line of code until he changes his one line of code and then the cat and mouse game starts |
| 12:29.02 | mutante | whack-a-mole |
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| 12:30.22 | basicmiracle | why can't the flooders every say something I'd be interested in hearing.. |
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| 12:30.53 | basicmiracle | why should I care what emerson luvs |
| 12:30.56 | Dagger | I'm not sure how you'd do it in one line, but +m:ing the channel (or setting whatever mode it is that stops unregistered users from talking) temporarily when somebody says a line with a dozen nicknames in it would help a lot |
| 12:30.57 | DannyButterman | Hi there |
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| 12:31.36 | Dagger | the spammers could change to highlight fewer nicknames... but that would count as a win for us anyway |
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| 12:32.39 | DannyButterman | Does anyone know how to reset the display to its initial working state after a failed nvidia drivers install ? |
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| 12:33.45 | ezra-s | DannyButterman: uninstall nvidia packages probably, nvidia packages do a few things not just install drivers, things such as blacklist the opensource drivers so they do not interfere, etc.. |
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| 12:36.09 | DannyButterman | ezra-s: I've already removed the nvidia packages previously installed, and removed the nouveau blacklist in the modprobe.d folder. What could be wrong then ? |
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| 12:36.48 | starbuck | Hi guys, I just installed stretch on my home server and now I'm trying to get xrdp to run, without luck so far. It seems broken. Does anybody have a hint for me how to fix it? https://hastebin.com/gagepitegu.sql |
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| 12:37.57 | mutante | starbuck: "possible port already in use" did you check if that's true? with netstat -tulpen or so? |
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| 12:38.35 | mutante | starbuck: i'd try running the "ExecStart" command line manually |
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| 12:39.00 | starbuck | mutante, yes there's nothing running on 3389 |
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| 12:39.32 | mutante | starbuck: is $XRDP_OPTIONS variable in the commandline actually replaced with something when it runs it? |
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| 12:40.43 | starbuck | mutante, how can I check that? |
| 12:42.05 | mutante | starbuck: hmmm. maybe open 2 terminals and watch output of "watch ps aux" in one, will starting it in another |
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| 12:50.12 | g0zzy | Installing Stretch on a client's machine. It comes with Win 8 on 1TB drive. Propose installing smallish SSD for Debian, leaving Win 8 intact using most of the 1TB disk repartitioned. What would be the best way to get the most out of the SSD (partitioning scheme) and what is the mimimum size for it that i can get away with while still making it useful and making a real difference? |
| 12:50.45 | ezra-s | DannyButterman: I don't know, check the logs... Xorg.log for example or similar |
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| 12:51.54 | mutante | g0zzy: i'd say like 20G is minimum, much less than that means it's going to be a bit annoying that it runs full so fast .. from logs and stuff |
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| 12:52.15 | mutante | maybe 15 |
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| 12:53.39 | g0zzy | OK. I've actually got a 60G one here so that's OK |
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| 12:55.02 | g0zzy | I'm really doubtful about partitioning between the two disks though |
| 12:55.04 | squarecircle | hi, atm I try to get a Sun Fire X4240 running with debian 9 |
| 12:55.37 | squarecircle | Problem: after decrypting the disks I get stuck and the box does not respond anymore |
| 12:55.44 | squarecircle | BERT: Can't request iomem region <00000000ba8dec98-00000000ba8decab> |
| 12:55.50 | squarecircle | is the last line I can see |
| 12:55.56 | squarecircle | I can't even scroll up :/ |
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| 12:59.16 | squarecircle | bert disabled |
| 12:59.22 | squarecircle | box still hangs |
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| 13:04.10 | g0zzy | Is the box broken? |
| 13:04.43 | squarecircle | g0zzy: thats a good question. Until we moved it it ran with Debian 9 |
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| 13:05.05 | squarecircle | then we moved it, inserted new disks and now it hangs :/ |
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| 13:05.41 | g0zzy | Check the bios? |
| 13:05.59 | squarecircle | done, all ok, BMC is dead, but thats known |
| 13:06.13 | squarecircle | I disabled ipmi_si already |
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| 13:06.44 | g0zzy | Running memtest probably wouldn't hurt |
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| 13:06.55 | squarecircle | ok |
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| 13:06.58 | squarecircle | thats right |
| 13:07.04 | squarecircle | I should do this |
| 13:07.41 | starbuck | mutante, i found the problem |
| 13:07.51 | starbuck | i had ipv6 disabled |
| 13:08.07 | starbuck | for some reason xrdp needs an ipv6 link local address to work |
| 13:08.21 | squarecircle | the debian netinst iso should contain a memtest? |
| 13:08.36 | linuxthefish | how strange, I swear i've run xrdp on old systems with ipv6 disabled |
| 13:09.36 | linuxthefish | squarecircle I don't remember seeing it on the netinstall, but it's definitely on the live iso |
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| 13:10.14 | squarecircle | linuxthefish: thx, downloading this |
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| 13:11.00 | starbuck | linuxthefish: yes, me too, but since stretch it seems to be a requirement. |
| 13:13.22 | metastable | There's no reason to have IPv6 disabled anymore. A growing number of applications expect the availability of at least link-scope IPv6 connectivity. |
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| 13:16.20 | starbuck | metastable, well there's really no reason to have IPv6 enables within my network at this time. I don't use at the moment and even my ISP doesn't provide it for me even if I would like to use it. |
| 13:16.58 | mutante | starbuck: aha! cool :) |
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| 13:18.49 | metastable | starbuck: Okay. That doesn't change what I said. IPv6 is enabled by default, and there is no reason to change this behavior, whether or not you have global v6 connectivity. |
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| 13:24.46 | jhutchins | metastable: There are MANY functions that have yet to be enabled in ipv6. |
| 13:25.14 | jhutchins | metastable: While "support" is enabled on many networks, full end-to-end functionality is not. |
| 13:25.46 | jhutchins | metastable: Typical lag on my network (to the internet) is usually at least 10x the lag of ipv4. |
| 13:26.06 | jhutchins | metastable: Many problems with connectivity can be solved by disabling it. |
| 13:26.29 | metastable | jhutchins: Not really. |
| 13:26.39 | jhutchins | metastable: I suspect that CUPS doesn't fully support it, though I have yet to prove that that is my problem. |
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| 13:27.06 | jhutchins | metastable: Just because you are ignorant of problems doesn't mean those problems don't exist. |
| 13:27.06 | metastable | jhutchins: As for the lag, your ISP is probably using 6rd or some other kind of over-IPv4 tunnel. |
| 13:27.20 | jhutchins | metastable: Yeah, google. |
| 13:27.48 | metastable | jhutchins: Oh, you're on Google Fiber? |
| 13:28.12 | jhutchins | metastable: I also worked on implementing ipv6 for the US Gov't. Svcs. Admin. |
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| 13:29.51 | metastable | jhutchins: Ahh, GSA. I worked on a similar project for components of the DoD. |
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| 13:32.17 | mspo | ipv6 is like selinux :) |
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| 13:32.30 | metastable | Leave it on unless you have a very compelling reason to turn it off. |
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| 13:32.55 | metastable | Or "it's not that difficult to work with if you take a little bit to learn?" |
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| 13:39.44 | jhutchins | mspo: Very true. |
| 13:40.49 | jhutchins | There are some things that are just not going to work over ipv6, and if your implementation causes you to attempt ipv6 first you're going to fail. |
| 13:41.34 | mspo | yeah that v6-first stuff really hostile |
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| 13:41.50 | squarecircle | how do I get the memtest running from debian gnome live dvd? |
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| 13:42.19 | Dagger | jhutchins: I think your v6 deployment is broken somehow. v6 first works fine for me |
| 13:42.29 | Dagger | (and it's the correct behavior for any machine that has v6) |
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| 13:45.03 | redrabbit | when i go on youtubes it uses my ipv6 tunnel |
| 13:45.13 | redrabbit | i must have an ipv6 first setup |
| 13:45.28 | redrabbit | (using hurricane electric free ipv6 tunnel @home) |
| 13:45.47 | metastable | If you have a global v6 address and a route, your OS will prefer that over IPv4. |
| 13:45.55 | redrabbit | works fine so far |
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| 13:46.29 | redrabbit | if anything things are a bit faster, there's no slow down for sure |
| 13:46.59 | redrabbit | took my an evening to setup |
| 13:47.13 | dersand | I'm installing a .deb(keepassxc) through dpkg but it has unmet dependecies, so i $ apt-get -f install but all it does is that it removes the package. https://pastebin.com/1c7t2a75 |
| 13:47.17 | linuxthefish | <mspo> ipv6 is like selinux :) |
| 13:47.17 | redrabbit | me*, its worth trying |
| 13:47.25 | linuxthefish | at least ipv6 is easy |
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| 13:47.33 | metastable | linuxthefish: SELinux isn't really that hard. |
| 13:47.52 | linuxthefish | i tried once, never again :p |
| 13:48.05 | themill | dersand: that's because apt is correct there. The only way of fixing that mess is to remove the package |
| 13:48.55 | metastable | linuxthefish: It's pretty easy. Set up your system and applications, set SELinux to permissive (not disabled), run it for a while, then use audit2allow to generate a policy that won't break your stuff. Set it to enforcing and move on with life. |
| 13:49.25 | linuxthefish | o, i just tried on enforcing and tried to do all the policy stuff |
| 13:49.25 | dersand | themill, okay. Which package should i install? https://github.com/magkopian/keepassxc-debian/releases |
| 13:49.40 | dersand | i'm on debian 8.5 |
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| 13:54.39 | themill | dersand: there's no guarantee that any of them work; if they know what they are doing, then the jessie package should |
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| 14:09.32 | ws2k3 | Package libboost1.61-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package. what am i doing wrong? |
| 14:10.40 | ezra-s | ws2k3: run apt update and try again, if not, check any external sources you might have added, if sources are all official, chances are the package that refers to that have the dependencies incorrectly set |
| 14:11.09 | ws2k3 | ezra-s i already did apt-get update;apt-get upgrade -y. and i no external apt repo's added only the default ones |
| 14:11.41 | ezra-s | ws2k3: according to apt search, the actual version in debian is : libboost1.62-dev |
| 14:12.05 | ezra-s | ws2k3: which package refers to libboost1.61-dev ? |
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| 14:13.14 | ws2k3 | ezra-s im trying to compile domoticz https://www.domoticz.com/wiki/Installing_and_running_Domoticz_on_a_Raspberry_PI |
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| 14:13.52 | pseudonymous | Is there a way to get the information I get from 'ip addr show' in a format more suitable for machine processing ? I'd like to extract bits in a script (python) but I'm afraid of how the regex will match if an iface is down or.. whatever else. |
| 14:14.47 | gpunk | the package name from libboost1.61-dev is libboost1.61-dev :) |
| 14:15.02 | ws2k3 | ezra-s https://www.domoticz.com/wiki/Install.txt#Debian_stretch |
| 14:15.31 | mutante | pseudonymous: ip --oneline a s already makes it nicer to grep |
| 14:15.41 | ezra-s | ws2k3: stretch has 1.62 |
| 14:16.26 | pseudonymous | mutante: that's much better, thanks :) ! BTW, how'd you come across "a s" and what does that mean, exactly ? |
| 14:16.35 | ws2k3 | ezra-s then im confused why the guide says that for debian strech i should run that |
| 14:16.58 | ezra-s | ws2k3: there is a match in debian sid (unstable) though: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libboost1.61-dev&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
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| 14:27.18 | jhutchins_wk | ws2k3: Are you actually running straight Debian on that Pi? |
| 14:28.26 | jhutchins_wk | pseudonymous: Why are you extracting the address in the first place? |
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| 14:28.51 | pseudonymous | jhutchins_wk: some server management scripting I'm doing using Fabric (python). |
| 14:30.00 | ws2k3 | jhutchins its not a raspberry |
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| 14:46.44 | contrapunctus | o/ |
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| 14:48.56 | contrapunctus | Debian Stretch. Please help me fix WiFi on my laptop. The card is rt3290. It always shows up as 'unavailable' in the tray, and trying to turn it on does nothing :( I tried blacklisting rt2900 drivers, to no avail. oTL |
| 14:49.09 | contrapunctus | (It used to work earlier, no idea what happened!) |
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| 14:49.23 | jhutchins_wk | contrapunctus: What is "earlier"? |
| 14:49.38 | jhutchins_wk | !rt3290 |
| 14:49.38 | dpkg | The Ralink RT3290 is a PCIe 802.11n and Bluetooth 3.0 + HS device. Its wireless LAN component (PCI ID 1814:3290) is supported by <rt2800pci> since Linux 3.6. Firmware is required and packaged since firmware-ralink 0.37. Debian 7 "Wheezy" users: ask me about <bdo kernel> and install firmware-ralink from <wheezy-backports>. |
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| 14:50.16 | SuperSeriousCat | Maybe you clicked on Fn and some F key and disabled WiFi that way |
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| 14:51.16 | jhutchins_wk | SuperSeriousCat: Nh, I think aliens stole his dingo. |
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| 14:52.52 | cristian_c | hello |
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| 14:54.15 | g0zzy | There seems to be little config communication between rsync, scp, ssh etc. e.g. i want to be able to tell ALL of these to use, say port 2222 for a particular host. Is there any way to do that? |
| 14:54.22 | cristian_c | when I use mozplugger, opening pdf files, I notice a strange behaviour about input events. If I use arrow keys on keyboard, they don't work, but if I use the mouse wheel scrolling, it works, instead |
| 14:54.34 | CrazyTux | hello, I have Debian 9.2 xfce installed on my laptop. I am not able to get the time displayed on the top right corner of the desktop. |
| 14:55.01 | jhutchins_wk | g0zzy: .ssh/config |
| 14:55.03 | cristian_c | How could I fix the issue for embedded pdf files using it? |
| 14:55.09 | cristian_c | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:55.38 | CrazyTux | I am trying to get the Clock Options switched to other formats. It is not getting saved. |
| 14:55.48 | petn-randall | CrazyTux: You should be able to add a clock to the panel by rightclicking, Panel â Add new items ... â clock |
| 14:56.37 | CrazyTux | yes. I am trying to select and set the already available format in Clock Options. It is not getting saved. |
| 14:57.12 | g0zzy | jhutchins_wk: Just tried that. Even scp doesn't check that, let alone rsync |
| 14:58.11 | jhutchins_wk | g0zzy: rsync always has for me. Not sure about scp. |
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| 14:58.32 | g0zzy | Oops sorry. scp DOES |
| 15:00.17 | tw | rsync calls ssh directly, it had better respect .ssh/config. |
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| 15:00.33 | ioudas^working | mutante. yeah, i mean how else would he notify nicks non stop in a channel or something. That code changes a lot! |
| 15:00.41 | g0zzy | I think i wasn't using the 'alias' in .ssh/config |
| 15:01.24 | g0zzy | If you don't, it doesn't know the port |
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| 15:03.06 | jhutchins | g0zzy: I just have host <host>\n\tport 2222 |
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| 15:08.57 | s_ | hello, please specify the code in xfce4 for Friday 03 Novemer 2017 |
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| 15:11.35 | g0zzy | I have (followed an example) Host <alias>\n\tHostname <hostname>\n\t Port 2222 |
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| 15:13.17 | jhutchins_wk | g0zzy: iirc that's only necessary if <alias> != <hostname>, but yeah, works. |
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| 15:18.07 | g0zzy | What's queer is that it _only_ works (port) if <hostname> is _not_ used |
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| 15:19.27 | jocthbr | Hey guys |
| 15:19.31 | mspo | yeah I use fake Host aliases like Host github-work |
| 15:19.42 | contrapunctus | jhutchins_wk: I dunno, it just stopped working one day out of the blue. There is a hardware toggle, but pressing it doesn't change anything. |
| 15:19.45 | mspo | and then git clone github-work:stuff |
| 15:20.12 | jocthbr | Is it normal a machine with 32gb of RAM have half of it full just after boot? |
| 15:20.28 | jocthbr | And increase memory use with no process being responsible? |
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| 15:20.45 | jocthbr | Tried top, htop, px aux, /proc/meminfo |
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| 15:21.29 | jocthbr | But there's nothing |
| 15:21.29 | r3 | does a ramdisk get created after boot? |
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| 15:22.11 | jocthbr | hmm |
| 15:22.19 | jocthbr | Yep |
| 15:22.25 | jocthbr | Didn't realise this |
| 15:22.26 | jocthbr | haha |
| 15:22.36 | r3 | :) |
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| 15:22.49 | jocthbr | I was having a problem with this machine |
| 15:22.55 | jocthbr | oom-killer acting |
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| 15:23.20 | jocthbr | It happened yesterday |
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| 15:23.41 | jocthbr | And I try to figure out which process is using the RAM |
| 15:23.56 | jocthbr | But can't see nothing |
| 15:24.10 | jocthbr | Could the ramdisk be growing? |
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| 15:25.40 | jocthbr | The only thing I saw was a IPSEC daemon with a lot of instances of charon process |
| 15:26.05 | jocthbr | Each one with more than 1g on VIRT field of htop |
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| 15:31.53 | lowin | Hello. I have a fresh stretch install, I'm trying to load my custom xorg config files but logs don't mention loading /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d directory at all. Am I doing something wrong? |
| 15:32.07 | jhutchins | jocthbr: Google "linux ate my ram". |
| 15:32.25 | jocthbr | Already saw that |
| 15:32.25 | jocthbr | haha |
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| 15:42.51 | lowin | any help? |
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| 15:43.44 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
| 15:44.03 | tobiasBora | I don't know why, but I installed teamviewer, and when I start it, it displays "Launching TeamViewer GUI ... |
| 15:44.08 | tobiasBora | but nothing appears |
| 15:44.37 | tobiasBora | and teamviewer keeps running in the terminal, without giving me any GUI. |
| 15:45.14 | tobiasBora | I tried to purge it, remove .local/teamviewer* |
| 15:45.21 | towo` | and this has what to do with debian? |
| 15:45.34 | nkuttler | tobiasBora: you'll have to ask teamviewer support. or strace it for guesses |
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| 15:47.37 | tobiasBora | nkuttler: strace output is quite... unclear for me: http://paste.debian.net/994039 |
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| 15:48.16 | nkuttler | tobiasBora: ugh, that runs under wine.. ask teamviewer support.. |
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| 15:48.29 | nkuttler | tobiasBora: or, you know, run windows in a vm.. |
| 15:49.20 | tw | "err:seh:start_debugger" the hell is it doing? |
| 15:49.30 | tw | ugh, note to self, never run that. |
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| 15:58.50 | tobiasBora | nkuttler: tw Ok Thank you I'll try. Meanwhile, do you have any good open source alternatives to teamviewer? |
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| 15:59.41 | gpunk | tobiasBora vpn+vnc |
| 16:00.02 | RedSoxFan07 | https://alternativeto.net/software/teamviewer/?license=opensource |
| 16:00.05 | tobiasBora | gpunk: you need to find a vpn provider then? |
| 16:00.09 | towo` | or as easy, but not opensource alternative, anydesk |
| 16:00.14 | gpunk | no create yours |
| 16:00.21 | gpunk | openconnect is awsome |
| 16:00.33 | tobiasBora | gpunk: I need a public ip address for that right |
| 16:00.44 | gpunk | yes ... |
| 16:01.02 | gpunk | I use my server , which is in a datacenter |
| 16:01.57 | gpunk | if you have a static IP at home |
| 16:02.06 | gpunk | you can use a DMZ |
| 16:02.17 | gpunk | or a redirection |
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| 16:16.56 | hemi1 | hey |
| 16:16.57 | hemi1 | for some reason grub still thinks i have a windows partition even though i deleted it from fdisk. how can i tell grub the windos partition is gone? |
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| 16:18.00 | bryceml | update-grub |
| 16:18.13 | hemi1 | i did |
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| 16:18.30 | hemi1 | bryceml: i get the error "cannot find a grub drive for /dev/sda1" |
| 16:18.41 | bryceml | Did you delete the efi folder for windows? |
| 16:18.43 | hemi1 | i might have deleted the window partition and the windows system parition in the wrong way |
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| 16:18.48 | hemi1 | i just ran 'd' from fdsik |
| 16:18.57 | hemi1 | i deleted the partitions |
| 16:19.07 | hemi1 | i prolly have to update this information elsewhere though |
| 16:19.10 | hemi1 | but where? |
| 16:19.30 | bryceml | If you have /boot/efi, delete the Microsoft folder in there. |
| 16:19.49 | hemi1 | ok, in /boot on my linux parition? |
| 16:19.56 | bryceml | Yup |
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| 16:20.27 | bryceml | Assuming you have only one copy of windows. |
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| 16:22.45 | bryceml | You might have to reboot after deleting the partition for it to recognize that as well. |
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| 16:24.33 | RoyK | bryceml: or run partprobe |
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| 16:25.14 | hemi1 | yea i already rebooted a couple times and ran update grub. bryceml, i dont have an efi folder under /grub |
| 16:25.22 | hemi1 | im booting with BIOS not, not UEFI |
| 16:26.25 | bryceml | That's weird, did you delete all relevant windows partitions? |
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| 16:27.50 | hemi1 | ya |
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| 16:29.02 | uxfi | hello freinds |
| 16:29.03 | hemi1 | bryceml: https://pastebin.com/VxMfTnLA |
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| 16:30.31 | bryceml | You could edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg manually if you want, it will probably change next kernel upgrade. |
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| 16:32.39 | bryceml | You could also try using the advanced menu in fdisk to re-number the partitions. Don't know if that will help. I've never had a situation like you have. |
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| 16:36.12 | contrapunctus | Debian Stretch. Please help me fix WiFi on my laptop. The card is rt3290. It always shows up as 'unavailable' in the tray, and trying to turn it on does nothing :( I tried blacklisting rt2900 drivers, to no avail. oTL (It used to work earlier.) |
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| 16:36.53 | SuperSeriousCat | "lspci -k". Do it have anything loaded? |
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| 16:39.18 | RoyK | contrapunctus: have you installed the firmware? those realtime shite cards don't have open drivers so you need a "firmware", which effectively is the driver |
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| 16:39.33 | RoyK | s/realtime/realtek/ |
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| 16:43.51 | contrapunctus | RoyK, I did |
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| 16:45.30 | FE4521 | hi. i am running debian 9 on a netbook. I didnt use it for some days and now that I wanted run some tools in the terminal, whatever I enter with sudo privileges is not executed (not even the sudo login works). Also, nm-applet doesn't work. what could the reason for this be? |
| 16:45.41 | contrapunctus | (and it's a Ralink) |
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| 16:46.17 | petn-randall | FE4521: What error do you get when you try to use sudo? |
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| 16:47.22 | FE4521 | petn-randall: none, the cursor just shifts one line down and then nothing happens. |
| 16:47.39 | FE4521 | BTW I also cannot launch a virtual console after that anymore (but before trying terminal commands I can) |
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| 16:48.53 | jhutchins_wk | FE4521: What DE? Which terminal emulator (or are you on a console)? What specific commands are you trying to run? What did you do to configure/enable sudo? |
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| 16:49.38 | FE4521 | jhutchins_wk: XFCE; I am using xfce4-terminal |
| 16:49.49 | FE4521 | the commands are e.g. sudo apt-get update, or simply su to get root |
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| 16:50.10 | FE4521 | I installed sudo and iirc I did the usual adduser username sudo command (don't remember the exact command) |
| 16:50.15 | FE4521 | but it worked before so.... |
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| 16:51.46 | jhutchins_wk | FE4521: I think the first thing I'd try is running from the console. |
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| 16:53.43 | FE4521 | jhutchins_wk: how do I disable autostart of xfce? or would it be sufficient to launch the virtual console when the login manager starts? |
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| 16:54.11 | rotaticus | FE4521: type 'groups' to see your groups ;) |
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| 16:56.04 | FE4521 | rotaticus: the return is "root" |
| 16:56.12 | jhutchins_wk | FE4521: Ctrl-Alt-F1 |
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| 16:56.49 | rotaticus | FE4521: and 'whoami' answers? |
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| 16:57.08 | FE4521 | rotaticus: also root |
| 16:57.23 | jhutchins_wk | FE4521: The standard method in debian is to add the user to the sudo group. |
| 16:57.39 | jhutchins_wk | FE4521: So su (su -) would essentially do nothing. |
| 16:58.12 | rotaticus | FE4521: is your terminal prompt borked, not showing that you're already root? |
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| 16:58.50 | FE4521 | it does show my root status |
| 16:58.54 | FE4521 | if that's what you mean |
| 16:59.21 | FE4521 | but after trying "su" or "sudo apt-get update" just nothing more happens except the cursor blinking in the next row |
| 16:59.39 | rotaticus | FE4521: is the user that is not root in the group sudo? |
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| 17:00.21 | FE4521 | rotaticus: i am pretty sure I added him, but how can I check? |
| 17:00.30 | rotaticus | FE4521: type 'groups' to see your groups ;) |
| 17:00.35 | jhutchins_wk | FE4521: Anything interesting in ps ax? And again, what happens in the console? |
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| 17:02.00 | jhutchins_wk | Interesting, stretch doesn't seem to have the su kludge any more. |
| 17:02.19 | n4dir | what is the "su kludge" ? |
| 17:02.46 | tw | hopefully more accurately, "what was the su kludge" |
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| 17:03.16 | jhutchins_wk | n4dir: Where "su" gets the same results as "su -" |
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| 17:03.38 | jhutchins_wk | I notice that "su" stays in my user's home directory. |
| 17:04.56 | n4dir | ah. Never realized it. But then: i pretty much always just use "su", not su - |
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| 17:06.29 | tw | That's not nice. |
| 17:06.32 | jhutchins_wk | n4dir: It's a good habit to learn. |
| 17:06.36 | tw | I wonder why that happened. |
| 17:06.43 | n4dir | but then: no, i didn't realize that when using "su" i would source /root/.profile or cd to /root. |
| 17:06.59 | tw | I always sudo -i unless I really mean sudo -s |
| 17:07.00 | jhutchins_wk | n4dir: Changes your path as well. |
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| 17:07.51 | jhutchins_wk | tw: Having come from an environment where I used root shells instead of sudo, I had the bad habit of sudo su - for a long time, but I'm breaking myself of it. |
| 17:08.14 | n4dir | just did a simple su, and it changed the PATH too. - But no arguing, i do know that su - is the prefered method. |
| 17:08.38 | tw | On solaris we were using su with our user passwords, which was the oddest thing in the world for me. |
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| 17:09.12 | tw | So when the opportunity arose to switch to sudo all the time, I lobbied for it pretty hard. |
| 17:09.37 | jhutchins_wk | tw: User password, not the root password? |
| 17:09.44 | tw | Yes. |
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| 17:12.46 | FE4521 | ok, so here is the recap of my problem so far: before logging into xfce, I can do everything in the virtual console just fine. after logging into xfce4, I cannot use any su/sudo commands in the terminal (nothing happens after entering the pw when "su" and the pw-prompt does not even occur when using "sudo command". I can also not get into a virtual console after that anymore, nor does the shutdown-process |
| 17:12.52 | FE4521 | ever end. |
| 17:13.11 | FE4521 | I already did, as root in the virtual console "usermad -a -G sudo myusername" but that did not change anything |
| 17:13.14 | FE4521 | am I missing anything? |
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| 17:14.38 | FE4521 | to me it seems like it has to do with permissions, but I don't know what exactly causes the problem |
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| 17:15.15 | tw | check dmesg for io errors. |
| 17:15.34 | tw | and kernel oops. |
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| 17:17.30 | jhutchins_wk | FE4521: After the usermod command you need to log out and log back in. |
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| 17:17.57 | n4dir | i wouldn't bet: does .bashrc gets sourced also during login, or only if opening a terminal emulator? If the latter, a wrong entry in .bashrc might cause problems. |
| 17:18.06 | n4dir | else i would also try a different terminal ermulator |
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| 17:18.40 | FE4521 | jhutchins_wl: i did reboot |
| 17:18.42 | n4dir | i think .profile sources .bashrc, so it probably doesn't make much sense. ... |
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| 17:19.37 | FE4521 | i just started xfce as root and tried to connect to my wireless network, upon which the system freezes. there are also lots of "?" next to my iwl driver. |
| 17:20.21 | FE4521 | Could it perhaps be related to the wpa2 bug that was recently discovered and probably closed? I remember that I had a hard time manually installing firmware-iwlwifi on the machine because the wifi card was not supported by debian |
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| 17:23.07 | jhutchins_wk | FE4521: You probably shouldn't be running xfce as root. |
| 17:23.56 | FE4521 | jhutchins_wk: i know, but else I cannot even see the dmesg/kern log when trying to initiate my wifi |
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| 17:28.53 | n4dir | did you make fancy changes in .bashrc ? did you use visudo to edit the sudoers file (which will check for errors) ? usage of bash aliases ? |
| 17:29.44 | n4dir | if it works from tty, but not in a terminal emulator, then such seems like the most probable problem. |
| 17:29.57 | FE4521 | no and no, the only think I added in .bashrc are some aliases |
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| 17:30.11 | JordiGH | Is docker.io gone from Debian? |
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| 17:30.49 | JordiGH | Urgh, at least gone from stable and testing, looks like. |
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| 17:31.55 | FE4521 | when I try to connect to wifi and have dmesg running, there is a clear error (red background) with the text "iwl mvm add sta+0x449/0x730 [iwlmvm] RSP: ffffb11240d5b740" |
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| 17:32.30 | FE4521 | also "BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000124" |
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| 17:39.07 | tw | If you're not on linux kernel 4.9 or later, I'd try to update to that. |
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| 17:45.11 | nkuttler | JordiGH: upstream has a debian repository |
| 17:45.38 | JordiGH | nkuttler: I am always afraid of upstreams who hate Debian policy. |
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| 17:46.03 | nkuttler | JordiGH: i use their packages, works for me |
| 17:46.29 | nkuttler | one of the few third party packages i use |
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| 17:47.45 | JordiGH | Right, I'll give it a look. |
| 17:47.48 | JordiGH | Thanks. |
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| 17:49.06 | nkuttler | oh, apt, 2.9PB/s? that's impressive |
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| 17:50.54 | dTal | Satellite Maps |
| 17:51.05 | dTal | sorry, accidental paste |
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| 18:04.50 | juon | Hello everibody |
| 18:04.51 | juon | Anyone know how to register a .it or .com domain? create a website and I need to host it, right now, thank you. I've tried pages.github.com, but I'm not able to configure ... |
| 18:05.39 | RoyK | joker.com perhaps? |
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| 18:07.05 | nkuttler | juon: usually you just buy a domain and point it to an ip address you control. i assuem github pages works through a cname or somesuch, but why don't you talk to *their* support... |
| 18:07.58 | jhutchins_wk | juon: Pick a registrar, most will offer a hosting package and even a pre-configured server. |
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| 18:08.35 | jhutchins_wk | juon: If you pick a really cheap registrar (namecheap, godaddy) expect poor customer service. |
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| 18:08.44 | RoyK | juon: just search for someone registering .it if you need to - all can do .com |
| 18:09.24 | juon | Which ones do you point me to? |
| 18:09.39 | RoyK | jhutchins_wk: joker isn't expensive, and works well |
| 18:09.48 | babilen | gandi |
| 18:09.51 | RoyK | juon: there are thousands - most will do :) |
| 18:09.57 | babilen | But there are many .. just google |
| 18:10.20 | juon | I will use the wordpress and php in the joker ? |
| 18:10.31 | jhutchins_wk | I do hear good things about ghandi |
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| 18:10.52 | jhutchins_wk | namecheap and godaddy work well enough, but if you have problems they're not real helpful. |
| 18:11.01 | RoyK | juon: I haven't tried joker for hosting, only for domain purchase. I use crowncloud for hosting - it's dead cheap and works well |
| 18:11.36 | jhutchins_wk | juon: There's one that is having a $3.99/mo special right now... |
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| 18:12.34 | jhutchins_wk | juon: BlueHost - one click WordPress install, $395/mo https://www.bluehost.com/?utm_source=calico.rurl.me&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=affiliate-link_calicojack_notype |
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| 18:12.51 | coruja | juon, i don't want to be offensive, but the kind of questions you ask suggest that you shouldn't run a server on your own (because of security reasons which shouldn't be underestimated) |
| 18:12.51 | juon | serious WHAT ? |
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| 18:13.20 | jhutchins_wk | Sorry, should have cleaned that URL. |
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| 18:14.06 | juon | I do not need much, the blog is not the main one, giving to send the index about and contact, this is great |
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| 18:14.24 | RoyK | jhutchins_wk: alt+ctrl+l in firefox to reopen a closed fan |
| 18:14.28 | RoyK | or tab |
| 18:14.51 | RoyK | erm - alt+ctrl+t |
| 18:14.52 | RoyK | of course |
| 18:15.33 | RoyK | that is - shift+ctrl+t - sorry - it's in my fingers, not my forehead |
| 18:15.34 | jhutchins_wk | juon: There's also wordpress.com |
| 18:15.39 | juon | thank you guys |
| 18:15.43 | RoyK | shift+cmd+t on a mac |
| 18:15.48 | jhutchins_wk | RoyK: I use Chrome. |
| 18:15.59 | RoyK | possibly the same there - no idea |
| 18:16.12 | jhutchins_wk | RoyK: Ctrl-Shift-T |
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| 18:16.24 | RoyK | mhm |
| 18:16.41 | juon | I'm have a wordpress blog, but I want a more professional service, for my clients |
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| 18:17.08 | juon | I'm dont work which developeemnt, I'm barber shop ; ) |
| 18:17.18 | jelly | jhutchins_wk, namecheap isn't even cheap, only their first year is. |
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| 18:29.58 | jhutchins_wk | jelly: Yeah, but registrar hopping is a pain. |
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| 18:31.24 | jhutchins_wk | They were about as cheap as it got ($15/yr) when I switched to them. |
| 18:31.58 | juon | the site is registrar.com ?/ |
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| 18:32.39 | jhutchins_wk | juon: https://www.bluehost.com/ |
| 18:33.09 | jhutchins_wk | juon: "Registrar" refers to someone who registers things (domain names). |
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| 18:35.44 | jhutchins_wk | juon: https://www.gandi.net/ was also recommended. |
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| 18:36.01 | juon | Ok, I'm see, thank you so much |
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| 18:36.06 | juon | senning |
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| 18:36.11 | juon | Sorry my english |
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| 18:36.31 | jhutchins_wk | juon: Better than my Portuguese |
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| 18:37.01 | juon | hahah, vc entende bem portugues sim |
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| 18:39.12 | jhutchins_wk | I know Cervantes called it "The Beautiful Language". |
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| 18:41.52 | juon | : ) |
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| 19:39.46 | dirac1 | Hello guys, i want to install on a Vultr VPS my linux-headers, but apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) not working. |
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| 19:48.36 | jhutchins_wk | dirac1: It's possible they have used a special kernel of their own. |
| 19:48.58 | jhutchins_wk | dirac1: What release is it? Which kernel is it using? |
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| 19:51.04 | dirac1 | let me show you the uname -a |
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| 19:52.38 | dirac1 | jhutchins_wk, http://ix.io/BXs |
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| 20:36.15 | zzla | so how do people like debian 9? |
| 20:36.38 | RoyK | it works |
| 20:36.46 | zzla | hm |
| 20:36.47 | zzla | ya dont say |
| 20:37.03 | RoyK | I link things that work :) |
| 20:37.59 | zzla | hm |
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| 20:38.15 | zzla | anyone have any significant negative feedback to it? |
| 20:38.22 | bolt | nu-uh |
| 20:39.20 | RoyK | zzla: I guess someone somewhere has met difficulties upgrading from jessie, somehow, that happens sometimes especially with custom packages, but no, at least I haven't seen any issues - I've upgraded a few machines so far |
| 20:39.45 | crash_ | zzla: debian 9 is stable for me so far on my laptop that i use daily |
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| 20:44.30 | zzla | im considering partitioning my laptop hdd running debian8 and installing a fresh copy of debian9 |
| 20:45.13 | zzla | its the first linux machine that ive actually made my own.. had some dinky laptops in the past i woudl experiment on, but never actually considered them my primary laptop |
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| 20:46.13 | RoyK | zzla: I'd say use one big partition with lvm on top to make it more flexible |
| 20:46.30 | RoyK | zzla: backup your data first, reinstall from scratch, restore |
| 20:47.04 | zzla | hm |
| 20:47.13 | zzla | im finding that i might not be able to change the size of my current partition |
| 20:47.22 | zzla | but, i think with a bit more digging i should find some info |
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| 21:41.08 | juon | Hi guys, I have a domain, now I'm search for hosting services, do you recommend, anyone for me ? thank you |
| 21:41.55 | juon | Will be a basic, and very simple site, I just need, little space, |
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| 21:42.47 | c4pt | https://iota.org/ |
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| 21:50.46 | searcher | hi, i looking for gparted on a usb stick for arm architecture |
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| 21:51.00 | nightray | Hello, I don't know what I did, but I must have done something wrong and now my tty isn't working. Could somebody assist me with that issue? |
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| 21:51.23 | searcher | is there something? |
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| 21:55.04 | nightray | anyone? |
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| 21:55.18 | searcher | ? |
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| 21:55.25 | rant | I highly doubt anyone is going to want to pry information out of you |
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| 21:56.31 | rant | !doesn't work |
| 21:56.32 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
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| 21:57.09 | nightray | rant, what more can I say? I press ctrl + alt + f1, and instead of a terminal I see this: |
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| 21:57.41 | nightray | writtent in two lines: /dev/sdb2: recovering jurnal /dev/sdb2: clean, 191113/7331840 fles, 2033008/29296896 blocks |
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| 21:57.52 | searcher | no idea? |
| 21:57.55 | nightray | I can't type anything, it's just this screen |
| 21:58.21 | nightray | on every single one, from F1 to F6 |
| 21:58.25 | simp | searcher, gparted has been compiled for raspbian, so it definitely exists. |
| 21:58.29 | rant | have you tried tty2? tty3? tty4? tty5? tty6? |
| 21:58.38 | nightray | yup |
| 21:58.42 | nightray | it's on all of them |
| 21:58.53 | searcher | do you have a link for me? |
| 21:59.01 | rant | hmm |
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| 21:59.21 | rant | searcher: apt-get install gparted ffs, same as any other arch |
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| 21:59.47 | searcher | no i have a windows system i need it to install on a usb stick to but a arm system |
| 22:00.02 | searcher | to boot a arm system |
| 22:00.15 | simp | searcher, just download the debian arm version and then install it after booting up? |
| 22:00.22 | rant | searcher: what sort of arm system? |
| 22:00.33 | jelly | searcher, each arm system boots differently. Most can't boot easily from a usb stick. |
| 22:01.26 | simp | searcher, what is the real issue you're trying to solve with having gparted on a usb stick? |
| 22:01.29 | searcher | its a samsung chromebook |
| 22:01.51 | searcher | it doesnt boot anymore and i would like to use gparted to format the hdd |
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| 22:03.39 | simp | that isn't going to help it boot. Do you want to re-install chromeOS? https://support.google.com/chromebook/answer/1080595?hl=en |
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| 22:05.10 | nightray | rant, if that helps with anything |
| 22:05.29 | nightray | I did: dpkg --add-architecture i386 |
| 22:05.42 | nightray | apt install llvm-3.9 clang-3.9 |
| 22:06.01 | nightray | and then I generated Xorg config with nvidia-xconfig |
| 22:06.07 | nightray | and that's more or less when it broke |
| 22:06.11 | searcher | i already tried it with 3 diffrent usb stick and sdcard |
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| 22:07.11 | nightray | oh, and apt-get install firmware-linux build-essential gcc-multilib |
| 22:07.22 | rant | nightray: idk if you are able to switch to the consoles and they all have the same message on them, then they are technically working.. systemd has some way of auto-starting agetty as needed and it apparently isnt doing so.. I'm not sure how to debug that |
| 22:07.57 | simp | nightray, what if you press enter? sometimes the consoles just show messages after the initial prompt moment. |
| 22:08.16 | rant | nightray: if it were related to nvidia config i.e. a framebuffer driver issue you wouldnt see those messages |
| 22:08.17 | nightray | nope, enters, tabs, ctrl + c, nothing works |
| 22:08.39 | searcher | it always says, failure cant restore or something like that |
| 22:08.58 | searcher | and google answer is too use a diffrent usb stick |
| 22:09.42 | tw | the google answer is "did you enable usb boot in chrome OS before it got broken?" |
| 22:09.43 | searcher | I used the Chromebook Recovery Utility |
| 22:09.57 | searcher | yes i did |
| 22:10.41 | tw | If you can't get it to start a debian boot image, it's not something we can help you with. |
| 22:10.43 | nightray | rant, this is a fresh installation (yes, I could just reinstall it). Except the above commands the only other thing I did was installing sudo, steam, skype, gdebi, gufw, and I did enable deb-multimedia |
| 22:10.53 | nightray | There is literally nothing else that I did |
| 22:11.49 | rant | nightray: I highly doubt anything you did caused this.. I've seen this sort of issue before on my system.. have you simply tried rebooting? |
| 22:11.58 | simp | searcher, the recovery thingy can be used to just erase the storage contents as well: https://support.google.com/chromebook/answer/1080595?hl=en#erase |
| 22:12.00 | nightray | yes, I tried |
| 22:12.13 | rant | nightray: I have no idea how the auto-starting of consoles actually works to even begin to troubleshoot it |
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| 22:12.53 | tw | If you have other filesystems, you might want to wait and see if it is fscking those still. |
| 22:13.01 | tw | fsck takes a long time on modern hdds. |
| 22:14.16 | rant | nightray: other than checking the logs, with journalctl or manually I haven't a clue |
| 22:14.19 | searcher | simp, I already tried it and it doesnt work, it says unexpected error please go to google.com/chromeos.... |
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| 22:14.41 | searcher | i used 3 diffrent usb sticks, 2 diffrent sdcards |
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| 22:17.00 | searcher | simp, i started the google recovery app, but I cant find anywhere something called earse |
| 22:17.13 | babs | apt keeps dying becaue of x11-common, it cant stop the service. yet /etc/init.d/x11-common both exists and does not exist?? |
| 22:17.19 | searcher | I have to select the chromebook version and then the sdcard |
| 22:17.50 | babs | is it write permissions or something thats the issue> |
| 22:18.13 | babs | or can I just force ignore uninstall x11-common without concern for the 'service' file ? |
| 22:18.14 | searcher | ok i found the erase thing, the sdcard is earsed now |
| 22:18.23 | nightray | rant, when I type 'sudo service tty1 restart' or 'sudo service tty1 start' I get 'Failed to start tty1.service: Unit tty1.service not found.' |
| 22:19.13 | rant | yeah.. probably same as sudo service i-made-this-up restart |
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| 22:20.52 | babs | should I just reinstall debian or...? |
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| 22:23.01 | nkuttler | babs: paste.debian.net command + entire output |
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| 22:24.23 | CrowX- | I need to backup a few lvm disks to an external drive, move the drive to another server and restore the disks to lvm there. What's the fastest method for this? Just use dd? |
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| 22:24.51 | babs | <nkuttler> can I paste it from the tty cli ? |
| 22:24.53 | Phrk_ | Hi want to install debian on arm board but i have ethernet not sec in uboot |
| 22:25.00 | Phrk_ | any idea ? |
| 22:25.12 | simp | searcher, and what does it say on the error website? |
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| 22:28.41 | searcher | now the recovery is not working, it directly says after reboot an unexpected error has occurred, please bla bla google.com/chromeos/recovery |
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| 22:29.50 | simp | searcher, have you downloaded the recovery app for the chrome browser and created a flash drive to fix it? |
| 22:30.10 | searcher | yes and i used the erase function from the google app also |
| 22:30.37 | pldiem | hi, how can I start bluetooth deamon (bluetoothd) with -C option? I tried to edit /etc/init.d/bluetooth no luck |
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| 22:30.57 | simp | searcher, if you've really followed all of the steps, then your only chance for recovery is https://support.google.com/chromebook/answer/6250945 |
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| 22:32.19 | searcher | it is only 1 month old, but i installed libreboot on it, i am not sure if they fix it |
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| 22:34.41 | Dreamix | CrowX-: you can check this article https://www.jethrocarr.com/2013/11/23/restoring-lvm-volumes/ |
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| 22:34.50 | searcher | the good thing is you cant see libreboot during reboot |
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| 22:43.11 | anton___ru | вÑем добÑого вÑемени |
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