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| 00:22.12 | mirak | hi |
| 00:22.36 | mirak | is there a way to automatically run a script after a package executed ? |
| 00:22.46 | mirak | installed I mean |
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| 00:22.55 | mirak | a specific package |
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| 00:39.37 | ircdiaosi | diaosi |
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| 00:53.02 | altere | is there something like a dsp compressor to use as a virtual soundcard? |
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| 00:58.32 | jvava | I have two partition, root and swap, 10G respectively, now I want merge them into one partition of 20G size, how can I do, please help. |
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| 01:02.32 | random_numbers | So, s-el requires emacs-24 for whatever reason. While it works for both 24 and 25. |
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| 01:06.16 | [gnubie] | how to properly do housekeeping on a thin pool logical volume? |
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| 01:43.09 | anoobis | is this debian? |
| 01:43.28 | krabador | not, Amiga Workbench. |
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| 01:43.45 | anoobis | I was told to find debian |
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| 01:44.21 | krabador | where do you search it? |
| 01:44.41 | dax | krabador: don't confuse people plz :( |
| 01:44.45 | anoobis | sudo apt-get install youtube-dl |
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| 01:47.02 | krabador | come on dax , a simple joke. |
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| 01:49.02 | jvava | hi, could you please help me merge my two partition, one is root partition, another is swap partition |
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| 01:50.46 | jvava | come on men, a real problem |
| 01:50.56 | salamitactics | Use gparted? Just delete the swap partition and extend the root over where it used to be |
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| 01:51.17 | krabador | do you want del one , and merge space to other ? |
| 01:51.24 | jvava | yes |
| 01:51.36 | krabador | gparted on live session |
| 01:52.05 | jvava | is it secure enough, salamitactics, I am new to gpartd very much |
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| 01:53.15 | salamitactics | As long as you give it the correct instructions then yes. Obviously there is always small risk with disk partitioning though. Don't lose power during operation and don't accidentally delete the wrong partitions and you will be fine. |
| 01:53.22 | krabador | jvava: if you've a good psu , a good mobo and good connection cables, you can do this operstion in gparted , in 2 click |
| 01:53.56 | jvava | except that, how can I tell boot not try the deleted swap partition |
| 01:54.06 | jvava | krabador, sound nice |
| 01:54.08 | salamitactics | Edit your /etc/fstab file |
| 01:54.15 | salamitactics | comment out the swap line |
| 01:54.31 | jvava | I do, but now still have swap used |
| 01:54.56 | krabador | jvava: menage your partition on live session |
| 01:55.30 | salamitactics | Yes, you need to update your initramfs iirc. It still tries to look for old swap |
| 01:55.45 | jvava | got it, I will try, thank you very much |
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| 01:57.22 | jvava | salamitactics, sorry, I dont know what iirc means, what's that |
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| 01:58.08 | salamitactics | shorthand for "if I recall correctly" |
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| 02:00.31 | jvava | salamitactics, thank you |
| 02:00.57 | salamitactics | np. I ran into the same issue before when messing with my swap partition. |
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| 02:50.55 | jonnydepp | Hey! I come from Kali Linux, after a disaster with freetype that broke my fonts I tried downgrading it and eventually in a last desperate try I broke the entire system, after being so shocked on how a os that use debian testing repos can become I decided to stop using kali |
| 02:51.05 | jonnydepp | I never liked Debian I don't know why |
| 02:51.28 | jonnydepp | I went to Bunsen for a while because I wanted a system with low impact on resources |
| 02:52.11 | jonnydepp | but still I like xfce and need some xfce features so I planned to have xfce on bunsen and use it only when connected to power (main reason why I wanted low impact on resources is battery) |
| 02:52.29 | mnuhmnuh | jonnydepp: you never really learned how to use it, i'd guess. takes a long time, much study to do it right. |
| 02:52.51 | jonnydepp | but I didn't like xfce integration with themes, I was used to something better in kali |
| 02:53.01 | jonnydepp | mnuhmnuh what are you talking about? |
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| 02:53.23 | mnuhmnuh | "I never liked Debian I don't know why" |
| 02:53.35 | jonnydepp | xfce version was quite old to me on jessie so finally I went on Debian Stretch thig night, I'm quite happy to see the same look as Kali on XFCE(quite surprised) |
| 02:53.57 | jonnydepp | mnuhmnuh that's a long story I don't like mainstream product |
| 02:54.45 | jonnydepp | mnuhmnuh I used for a year and half opensuse that I was forced to use Kali and learned aptitude, apt, dpkg and so on and then started using Debian related distros, never went back to opensuse or rpm related stuff |
| 02:55.19 | jonnydepp | what I wanted to say is I'm happy to switched to Debian, to be finally able to talk on the channel without having people pissed of because I was using some other distro related to Debian |
| 02:55.38 | jonnydepp | and I look forward to the future to see what Debian will become as I want a stable long-lasting OS |
| 02:55.50 | mnuhmnuh | jonnydepp: philosophy. bleeding edge newest bells and whistles, or rock solid, brick shithouse stable. i prefer the latter. as does debian. |
| 02:56.05 | jonnydepp | Please don't mess up with things and keep a good system no matter what happen, have a good job, that was the message I wanted to say |
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| 02:56.35 | jonnydepp | mnuhmnuh same opinion |
| 02:57.04 | jonnydepp | reason why I dropped kali if only I knew before it was using debian testing and it would have ended like so, at the least I had a rsync full backup |
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| 03:01.59 | Rukus | hey. I'm a mint user usually. I tried out Manjaro, but I'm not sure I want to relearn a terminal... I have old hardware, would I be best suited for debian stable? Friends keep recommending debian-stables because latest updates. I think I shouldt care and install stable. But I cant understand theri suggestions completely |
| 03:02.18 | Rukus | err friends keep recommending debian-testing |
| 03:02.19 | Rukus | oops |
| 03:03.25 | mnuhmnuh | Rukus: i recc. testing, for user boxes, not servers. |
| 03:03.29 | salamitactics | Honestly if you want to never have to use the terminal and always have the latest updates I would go with ubuntu |
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| 03:04.05 | Rukus | I dont mind the terminal tbh. |
| 03:04.27 | Rukus | I's looking at debian because I already run two pi's with raspbian based OS's on them |
| 03:04.35 | mnuhmnuh | terminal is a feature. hold your nose and learn to use it. |
| 03:04.35 | Rukus | err I'm |
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| 03:05.34 | Rukus | mnuhmnuh, what would i be missing out on if i went stable instead of testing tho? would LM 18.2 be most equivalent to debian-stable? |
| 03:05.50 | Rukus | as for latest updates etc |
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| 03:06.24 | salamitactics | So in stable generally packages don't get feature updates, just security. So you will be using long term support releases of firefox, for example |
| 03:06.29 | mnuhmnuh | Rukus: philosophy. bleeding edge newest bells and whistles, or rock solid, brick shithouse stable. i prefer the latter. as does debian. |
| 03:06.32 | salamitactics | Ubuntu gets around this with snaps |
| 03:07.31 | Rukus | mnuhmnuh, is testing considered stable? or just bleeding edge newest bells and whistles? |
| 03:07.53 | Rukus | which I wonder how necessary that is to have on 7 year old hardware |
| 03:07.55 | annadane | it's a matter of opinion but generally, even debian unstable is pretty stable |
| 03:08.00 | annadane | not that i recommend it necessarily |
| 03:08.24 | annadane | (ubuntu is based off of debian unstable) |
| 03:08.42 | Rukus | that opens a new perspective for me |
| 03:08.59 | mnuhmnuh | Rukus: no. sid/experimental is dev, testing is testing (stuff comes from dev), stable is production; server level stability, no/few surprises. |
| 03:09.05 | annadane | stable's obviously very solid but of course you don't get new software until the next stable, and releases are 2 years apart, if you don't compile or backport your own |
| 03:09.32 | Rukus | hmmm. you're all making this make sense now |
| 03:09.57 | mnuhmnuh | you want new, run slackware (also very good). |
| 03:10.16 | annadane | actually even debian unstable gets quite far behind arch |
| 03:10.31 | Rukus | well, if there is something I have learned about myself. I dont mind having to fix things some time, but sometimes i dont have the time and do mind |
| 03:10.53 | random_numbers | The no dependency-resolution thing is what kept me from trying slackware. |
| 03:10.55 | annadane | testing is a happy medium between the two, basically |
| 03:10.58 | Rukus | i'm trying out Manjaro currently |
| 03:11.31 | mnuhmnuh | Rukus: better to have more than one box; one to play and learn with, the other to rely on. |
| 03:12.12 | Rukus | mnuhmnuh yeah. its been annoying having my main comp in limbo |
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| 03:13.13 | mnuhmnuh | Rukus: you could put one on usbkey and boot from it, leaving primary choice on hd. |
| 03:13.46 | Rukus | mnuhmnuh, very true. live usb runs quite well |
| 03:14.06 | mnuhmnuh | me == tail + testing, respectively. ymmv. |
| 03:14.15 | mnuhmnuh | tails |
| 03:14.22 | Rukus | I'm just wondering if there is a step towards something different/greater from Linux Mint (which I normally run) |
| 03:15.01 | annadane | i mean, depends on what you want... mint is based off ubuntu which is based off debian which is renowned as one of the most stable distros |
| 03:15.20 | annadane | may as well go to the source... also has things like the debian free software guidelines and social contract |
| 03:15.54 | annadane | debian does not come with anything non free by default, you have to add it yourself |
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| 03:16.25 | Rukus | i presume there is a user repo for such software? |
| 03:16.41 | Rukus | i guess I "do" like some things easy |
| 03:17.10 | annadane | yeah, there is. you just add contrib and non-free to the line in your sources.list |
| 03:17.22 | Rukus | oh, like mint |
| 03:17.24 | annadane | there's also an image with non free firmware if you need it during installation |
| 03:17.33 | Rukus | i better just stick to what i know |
| 03:17.38 | mnuhmnuh | annadane: yabut /usr/local is for self-added. methinks people ought to learn both debian and slack. right tool for right job. |
| 03:17.47 | Rukus | i mean move from manjaro to debian unstable |
| 03:17.57 | annadane | up to you... just keep backups |
| 03:18.08 | annadane | see also https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#What_are_some_best_practices_for_testing.2Fsid_users.3F |
| 03:18.49 | Rukus | thanks |
| 03:19.05 | mnuhmnuh | wtf is unstable?!? |
| 03:19.24 | mnuhmnuh | :-P |
| 03:20.57 | Rukus | so, would you partition /boot 255mb, / 30GB, /home etcGB /swap Ram=GB |
| 03:21.26 | Rukus | or is it better to use onbe large partition? I'm asking because mint forgot where my bootloader is |
| 03:21.30 | Rukus | and i'm not sure why |
| 03:22.08 | salamitactics | well it can be nice to have a separate home partition. and sometimes annoying. Config files can carry over pretty well between distros but ymmv (e.g. firefox settings) |
| 03:23.39 | mnuhmnuh | Rukus: /, /tmp, and /var are important ones. balance of space for /home. |
| 03:24.33 | Rukus | I guess I've never realized what goes on behind the scenes of my install tbh |
| 03:24.51 | Rukus | ie: proper partitioning |
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| 03:25.48 | mnuhmnuh | Rukus: /boot needn't be separate except if you're doing raid or complex cryptosystem stuff. |
| 03:26.30 | morenoh149 | deb noob here. How do I determine the latest path I should use for adding a deb line? https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-elasticsearch-1-7-logstash-1-5-and-kibana-4-1-elk-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04#install-elasticsearch |
| 03:26.53 | morenoh149 | if I simply browse http://packages.elastic.co/elasticsearch/1.7/debian I get empty pages in my browser |
| 03:27.10 | morenoh149 | if I load http://packages.elasticsearch.org/ I don't see anything useful |
| 03:27.41 | morenoh149 | I would expect it to be http://packages.elasticsearch.org/5.6/debian but how do I know that's correct? |
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| 03:29.08 | mnuhmnuh | morenoh149: that's not debian. no idea what they offer. |
| 03:30.32 | annadane | morenoh149, https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
| 03:30.45 | Rukus | mnuhmnuh, would debian-testing be about as user friendly as antergos? |
| 03:30.47 | annadane | morenoh149, don't use external websites |
| 03:30.49 | Rukus | or manjaro |
| 03:31.10 | annadane | !tell morenoh149 about stretch sources.list |
| 03:31.57 | mnuhmnuh | Rukus: never used either of them. testing is quite friendly and stable in my experience. |
| 03:32.00 | annadane | ,v elasticsearch |
| 03:32.02 | judd | Package: elasticsearch on amd64 -- jessie-security: 1.0.3+dfsg-5+deb8u1; jessie-backports: 1.6.2+dfsg-1~bpo8+1; sid: 1.7.5-1 |
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| 03:32.12 | annadane | !tell morenoh149 about ssb |
| 03:32.42 | morenoh149 | ,v kibana |
| 03:32.43 | judd | No package named 'kibana' was found in amd64. |
| 03:32.49 | annadane | morenoh149, https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Some_safer_ways_to_install_software_not_available_in_Debian_Stable |
| 03:32.50 | mnuhmnuh | https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster |
| 03:32.56 | morenoh149 | ,v logstash |
| 03:32.58 | judd | No package named 'logstash' was found in amd64. |
| 03:33.23 | salamitactics | https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/deb.html |
| 03:33.49 | salamitactics | Avoid articles, likely to use outdated links to repos. Go right to the source, read their documentation |
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| 03:39.06 | mnuhmnuh | golang-github-bshuster-repo-logrus-logstash-hook-dev # ick. |
| 03:40.04 | Rukus | Thanks for all the good talk guys, I think before I move onto debian quickly, that I'm going to giuve manjaro a chance first. then maybe try out debian on another machine. |
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| 03:40.36 | annadane | you heretic! |
| 03:40.38 | annadane | :P |
| 03:41.14 | Rukus | haha |
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| 04:27.07 | kavelot | does anyone know some debian based Live CD that comes with basic firewall (something like block inbound for instance) activated by default? |
| 04:27.41 | SirLagz | kavelot: doesn't ubuntu have inbound filtering already activated? |
| 04:27.56 | SirLagz | kavelot: otherwise, it's not too hard to set the default to drop on a new Debian install |
| 04:28.06 | kavelot | SirLagz: their doc says it comes with ufw disabled |
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| 04:28.26 | SirLagz | kavelot: ah rihgt |
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| 08:58.22 | rakor | Is it a problem to change the shell of 'root'? |
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| 08:58.39 | rakor | I know systems that might behave strange when changed |
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| 09:03.35 | dutchfish | rakor, well, i dont believe denying a shell would cause harm. But i know for sure, that user root is needed for alot of purposes. |
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| 09:04.03 | dutchfish | rakor, user != shell |
| 09:06.07 | rakor | I don't like bash so I would like to change the shell. Having a nice shell when switching with su |
| 09:06.13 | dutchfish | rakor, denying parts to root can be helpfull to further seucre a system (no ssh login by root as an example) |
| 09:06.23 | dutchfish | rakor, dash is the default now not bash |
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| 09:06.55 | dutchfish | rakor, also read about sudo |
| 09:06.57 | rakor | # echo $SHELL |
| 09:06.59 | rakor | /bin/bash |
| 09:07.12 | rakor | I don't like sudo |
| 09:07.14 | klys | it's only used for login purposes |
| 09:07.21 | klys | so like, /etc/profile |
| 09:07.38 | dutchfish | rakor, `ls -la /bin/bash` ;) |
| 09:08.03 | rakor | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1,1M Mai 15 21:45 /bin/bash |
| 09:08.11 | rakor | running stable |
| 09:08.37 | mr__tea | francais rakor ? |
| 09:08.45 | rakor | no |
| 09:09.55 | dutchfish | rakor, correct now `ls -la /bin/sh` thats what used by root most of the time. (example: update) |
| 09:10.59 | rakor | Thats what used most times for scripts... But I want to change the interactive shell (chsh) |
| 09:11.29 | dutchfish | rakor, i understand. But i just wanted you to know this and delve into it. |
| 09:11.57 | rakor | ok thanks |
| 09:12.05 | rakor | So chnging would be ok? |
| 09:12.29 | rakor | Scripts will still use /bin/sh (what ever lives behind) |
| 09:12.58 | dutchfish | rakor, for most purposes, yes. But as i said delve into it. Alot of scripts mix it up and proclaims that bash is the standard. It is not (any longer). |
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| 09:13.59 | dutchfish | rakor, the correct way is to use the systems softlink /bin/sh. If your userland obeys that, i see no problem in denying a shelll for root. |
| 09:15.22 | dutchfish | rakor, this might be different on non-debian systems |
| 09:16.29 | rakor | sure I use bsd on other systems, and there it could get trouble changing the shell of root. (But there I have csh as option and no bash). |
| 09:16.42 | dutchfish | right |
| 09:16.47 | rakor | Thats why I asked especially for debian |
| 09:17.02 | rakor | I don't know the system ver well yet |
| 09:17.09 | dutchfish | rakor, np |
| 09:17.19 | rakor | thanks |
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| 09:26.27 | dutchfish | rakor, oh one more, thing. The debian installer (in expert mode during install) has an option to accomplish that effordless. ie disable root login. But then sudo is the only option left to get root access. |
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| 09:27.09 | rakor | Oh no. I really like 'su' and try to avoid 'sudo'. ;) |
| 09:27.13 | whatthefuk | DONGS DONGS DONGS |
| 09:27.15 | whatthefuk | FUCK YOU ALL |
| 09:27.44 | whatthefuk | d |
| 09:27.44 | whatthefuk | s |
| 09:28.16 | dutchfish | rakor, i dont know if that would work for su. I know that using su on a debian system, can get you into trouble, because of missing path's. |
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| 09:29.12 | rakor | Till now I had no problems. Just adjustet $PATH to have /root/bin in it. 'su' reads bashrc |
| 09:29.23 | dutchfish | rakor, correct |
| 09:29.32 | whatthefuk | hello fuckers. fuck you all, fucked-up fucking motherfuckers |
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| 09:29.48 | mr__tea | whatthefuk: fuck you too |
| 09:30.00 | whatthefuk | mr__tea: LOL DONGS |
| 09:30.05 | shpingrlde | /ignore |
| 09:30.06 | whatthefuk | thats what your mom sucked |
| 09:30.38 | mr__tea | :) |
| 09:31.03 | dutchfish | mr__tea, dont feed the trolls ;) |
| 09:31.23 | whatthefuk | dutchfish: why should I not feed your mom? |
| 09:31.27 | mr__tea | dutchfish: hehe |
| 09:31.31 | whatthefuk | she isn't *that* fat yet |
| 09:31.39 | annadane | !ops ^ |
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| 09:31.49 | dutchfish | ty |
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| 09:55.21 | Ormu1 | I'm getting this when trying to run some 32-bit games with Wine... https://bpaste.net/show/4229b9ea259f |
| 09:55.51 | Ormu1 | I tried to install xserver-xorg-video-intel:i386 but it would require removal of many packages which seem important |
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| 09:56.45 | Ormu1 | I'm using wine-development from official repos on Stretch |
| 09:57.47 | babilen | Games .. reason to ruin your box since 1996 |
| 09:57.57 | babilen | You sure you don't just need the 32bit gl libs? |
| 09:58.39 | Ormu1 | not sure. i965-dri.so was mentioned so i thought about the X11 driver lib |
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| 10:00.52 | LioneLL | dosbox |
| 10:02.33 | Ormu1 | yeah. But I'd need to install Win98/Win95 on it, and how does DirectX stuff work on Dosbox? Anyway, what 32-bit GL libs are those? libgl1-mesa-glx:i386, for example, is already installed. |
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| 10:09.59 | Ormu1 | hm, going to try the non-development version of Wine in the repos. After that, I'll probably reboot to Windows |
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| 10:14.19 | Ormu1 | and the same problem occurs as yesterday: searching for "wine32" in Synaptic does not return the package wine32:i386 |
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| 10:16.02 | Ormu1 | yep, same problem on non-development Wine. |
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| 10:17.53 | XeonSquared | I've seen that issue with Steam before I think... |
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| 10:19.17 | Ormu1 | yeah, many google results are related to Steam and the solutions involve symlinking some Steam-specific versions of certain lib files |
| 10:19.27 | XeonSquared | Yeah, that's not very useful, sorry. |
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| 10:21.23 | Ormu1 | I could compile latest Wine from sources, but I doubt that would solve anything, and it's a big mess to install all the build deps and stuff. |
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| 10:37.38 | Ormu1 | ok, solved. The required package was libgl1-mesa-dri:i386. Could someone explain why is it not listed as a dependency for wine32 ? |
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| 10:42.08 | UH7294 | is there a way to install pkgs on an airgapped debian machine in a similar way to apt-get install, i.e. with all dependencies? |
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| 10:42.47 | UH7294 | i imagine a tool that fetches the necessary packages/dependencies, stores them on a removable drive and then lets me install the files on the airgapped machine from that removable drive? |
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| 10:45.28 | patterson | You could use the install images probably. https://www.unixmen.com/setup-local-apt-repository-using-installation-media-in-debian-8/ |
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| 11:05.03 | zackbrown | hi folks! is there a way to bring a debian system to a pristine state? I.e. it leaves everything in /home alone, but brings everything else to a standard state from which to upgrade / add and remove packages / etc ? |
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| 11:14.42 | Vizva | zackbrown |
| 11:15.53 | nkuttler | zackbrown: reinstall, don't wipe the home partition, or just restore it from backups |
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| 11:16.46 | nkuttler | i'm doing that right now after tinkering with fixing a broken encrypted lvm setup.. |
| 11:17.23 | zackbrown | nkuttler: thanks |
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| 11:17.37 | Vizva | but better play in from backup |
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| 11:17.47 | Vizva | instead of no baackup and mess it up |
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| 11:18.15 | nkuttler | yeah, if you don't have backups yet, make them. easy to delete data while installing |
| 11:19.04 | zackbrown | I guess reinstalling will be a last resort. Right now I'm noticing on my system "gpg" with no arguments produces a segfault. I think that's interfering with regular apt updates |
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| 11:27.06 | `levi | hi :) |
| 11:27.19 | bazhang | hi |
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| 12:11.21 | thecliguy | I'm using mlterm on Debian 9 - I can't figure out how to copy and paste. Ideally I'd like to use ctrl-shift-c and ctrl-shift-v. |
| 12:11.24 | thecliguy | Is it the responsibility of mlterm to implement these shortcuts or is this configured elsewhere in Debian? |
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| 12:11.38 | cybrNaut | i think i've been misusing the release tags in the bug tracker, e.g. adding "tags -1 stretch" when the bug is found in stretch. From the docs, it seems I should only do that if it's a bug that is newly introduced in stretch, correct? |
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| 12:13.29 | cybrNaut | that is, old bugs shouldn't get the "stretch" tag, i'm thinking, even if the bug is present in stretch |
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| 12:19.58 | wuwq | The folder content could not be displayd, you do not have the permissions.... How do i fix this? |
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| 12:27.56 | Maelstorm | hi guys |
| 12:28.00 | Maelstorm | newbie here |
| 12:28.02 | Maelstorm | :) |
| 12:28.05 | cybrNaut | wuwq: man chmod |
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| 12:29.38 | nix64bit | i have to run this each time I use npm, is there a way to make it always so? script to run "nvm use node" |
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| 12:31.09 | wuwq | how do i gain user permissions to edit and save files? It's so frustrating i'm the only user but i'm still asked for permissions everytime |
| 12:31.54 | flipper8827 | I have a fresh installation of Strecth and an old blue tooth Microsoft multimedia keyboard, on which I can not get any of the hot keys. I.e play,stop,pause and pthers working |
| 12:32.45 | flipper8827 | I'am running strecth with the xfce4 desktop environment |
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| 12:33.30 | cybrNaut | wuwq: the directory needs /execute/ permission and /write/ permission, and then the file you want to edit needs write permission |
| 12:34.01 | cybrNaut | wuwq: the chmod command will change the permissions |
| 12:34.16 | wuwq | also i don't get it why when i open as root a folder i'm asked for the user password and not root password |
| 12:36.07 | cybrNaut | wuwq: not sure about your particulars, but often root does not have a password, and in fact cannot login, in which case a user account must have sudo permission to act as root |
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| 13:21.05 | sadasas | hi |
| 13:21.26 | sadasas | have a problem mpc process freeze |
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| 13:21.42 | sadasas | how i cat this event? |
| 13:21.48 | sadasas | please help |
| 13:21.50 | sadasas | :( |
| 13:21.51 | dTal | have you tried turning it off and on again |
| 13:22.51 | sadasas | i need to catch in automation |
| 13:22.56 | sadasas | restart |
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| 13:26.56 | philamonster | strace -tfp [PID] |
| 13:27.00 | philamonster | sadasas, |
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| 13:57.36 | MickyW | Hello. I am unable to figure out, why smartd does not write to log files (i.e. /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog or any other file in /var/log) out of my configuration - which is: "DEVICESCAN -d removable -n standby -m root -M exec /usr/share/smartmontools/smartd-runner". |
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| 13:58.30 | MickyW | Having read the man page I have no clue why nothing is written. I would expect regular entries about attribute changes. |
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| 14:12.11 | g0zzy | Very queer stuff going on with cdrdao. Got a 15 track disk and it's been reading it to file for almost 5 hours and it's still not even finished track 11. Only a couple of days ago i ripped all 15 tracks to wav in just a few minutes with ripperx. What going on do you think? |
| 14:12.54 | Zharf | corrupted and/or copy protected disc |
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| 14:17.53 | kfedora | hi guys trying to boot a 32 bit xfce debian 9.2.1 iso on a hp mini 210 laptop but I am stuck at device-enumerator scanning /sys/class calling settle |
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| 14:18.55 | g0zzy | Zharf: But how did it change in just one day? |
| 14:19.44 | Zharf | oh you're ripping the same disc?... well, did you scratch it? :) |
| 14:19.58 | Zharf | (why are you doing it twice though?) |
| 14:20.33 | g0zzy | I very much doubt it. Doing it twice because it's convenient to have one iso rather than 15 files |
| 14:21.22 | MickyW | Hm. Seems smartd does not run at all. - Thank you for reading. |
| 14:21.55 | g0zzy | kfedora: is it optical or usb? |
| 14:22.38 | kfedora | g0zzy: usb I set it to acpi=off debug verbose and now it is detecting network hardware 0% something is wrong with the acpi on the device |
| 14:23.12 | kfedora | it says something like we need four parameters but we get five or something if I boot normally |
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| 14:23.47 | kfedora | the only network on this thing is a broadcom wifi chip I think? |
| 14:24.22 | dvs | ugh, broadcomm |
| 14:24.47 | g0zzy | I'd probably bin it ;) |
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| 14:28.04 | kfedora | haha |
| 14:28.08 | kfedora | :( |
| 14:28.29 | kfedora | can i skip this detecting network hardware? |
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| 14:29.18 | dvs | you could if you were in advanced mode |
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| 14:30.16 | g0zzy | Would you be content for it to be offline? |
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| 14:38.35 | UZ632 | hi. when i boot debian, i want it to boot into a shell, not into a display manager like lightdm. is there a more elegant way to achieve this other than probably uninstalling lightdm? |
| 14:38.57 | UZ632 | also, how can i select which DE debian is supposed to use when I start a DE with startx? |
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| 14:40.08 | mtn | UZ632: you can turn off lightdm, or any other dm, without uninstalling it. |
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| 14:40.47 | kfedora | better than nothing I guess |
| 14:40.56 | mtn | UZ632: to start a desktop using startx, you need to edit .xinitrc. if the debian wiki doesn't help with that, the arch wiki will |
| 14:41.19 | dvs | !tell kfedora about firmware iso |
| 14:41.28 | UZ632 | mtn: alright, will check out the xinitrc and the wiki; thanks! |
| 14:41.38 | mtn | UZ632: welcome |
| 14:41.57 | UZ632 | btw why does xfce4 have its own xinitrc? |
| 14:42.10 | UZ632 | i have one in /etc/x11/xinit and one in /etc/xdg/xfce4 |
| 14:42.50 | mtn | UZ632: you need to have an xinitrc in your home directory. those are just templates |
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| 14:43.43 | UZ632 | ahh ok, i will look into that then :) |
| 14:45.50 | sadasas | not i need |
| 14:46.22 | sadasas | have a problem mpc process freeze how i catch this event on raspberry pi3? |
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| 14:56.52 | Wulf | Hello. How can I automatically start applications when I login into the GUI (currently gnome)? |
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| 14:57.56 | gpunk | go to tweak-tools |
| 14:58.16 | gpunk | or adjustments |
| 14:58.38 | gpunk | there is a tab for startup applications |
| 14:58.52 | Wulf | gpunk: is there no file I can put some commands into, not related to gnome? |
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| 14:59.52 | gpunk | from what I see, I guess not |
| 15:00.11 | sadasas | gpunk help me? |
| 15:00.25 | gpunk | strace |
| 15:00.31 | gpunk | and see where it hangs |
| 15:00.41 | gpunk | starce -f mpc ... |
| 15:00.46 | gpunk | strace* |
| 15:01.13 | teraflops | Wulf: you can achieve that by several ways |
| 15:01.32 | sadasas | but not stop but freeze |
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| 15:01.52 | Wulf | teraflops: got a list somewhere? |
| 15:01.54 | gpunk | yes, |
| 15:02.13 | sadasas | remaning up but don't listen.. |
| 15:02.23 | sadasas | i need to restart in this case |
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| 15:04.12 | sadasas | i need to controll example time of sequenze |
| 15:04.12 | teraflops | Wulf: if you're using GMD you can launch things from ~/.xprofile you can also symlink .desktop files into ~/.config/autostart or /etc/xdg/autostart too |
| 15:04.17 | sadasas | and i restart |
| 15:04.32 | sadasas | ??? |
| 15:04.49 | teraflops | Wulf: and you can also use gnome tweak tool |
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| 15:08.16 | joeel84 | Do you guys know what all the laptop-mode-tools package does? Will it have a major impact on battery life? |
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| 15:11.07 | gpunk | sadasas: strace -p $PROCESSID |
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| 15:12.17 | Nitrogen | Greetings! I have a .txt with over 5000 strings organised like this: https://pastebin.com/gtu404rG I want to import them as Bookmarks into a PDF. How can I do that? |
| 15:12.18 | sadasas | i don't see it pid process |
| 15:12.31 | gpunk | ps aux| grep mpc |
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| 15:12.41 | usam | joeel84: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/laptop-mode-tools |
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| 15:14.03 | gpunk | what are you calling mpc, xhat are you using it for ? |
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| 15:15.44 | sadasas | strace -p 20212 |
| 15:15.44 | sadasas | strace: attach: ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, ...): No such process |
| 15:15.51 | sadasas | but exsist |
| 15:16.08 | gpunk | what are you calling mpc, what are you using it for ? |
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| 15:16.18 | sadasas | yes |
| 15:16.48 | sadasas | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.49 | sadasas | pi 22771 0.0 0.2 4276 2012 pts/1 S+ 16:16 0:00 grep --color=auto mpc |
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| 15:17.05 | gpunk | there is no mpc running |
| 15:17.12 | gpunk | that s just your grep ... |
| 15:17.23 | gpunk | try mpd ? |
| 15:17.24 | sadasas | strace -p 22771 |
| 15:17.24 | sadasas | strace: attach: ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, ...): No such process |
| 15:17.34 | sadasas | mpd always up |
| 15:17.38 | sadasas | demon standlone |
| 15:18.12 | gpunk | copy and paste your 'ps aux' in pastebin ... |
| 15:18.23 | sadasas | without grep? |
| 15:18.24 | sadasas | ok |
| 15:18.28 | gpunk | yes |
| 15:18.56 | sadasas | from root |
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| 15:18.58 | sadasas | or pi ? |
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| 15:19.02 | gpunk | pi |
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| 15:19.49 | sadasas | https://pastebin.com/eugWgJgP |
| 15:19.56 | sadasas | or want top? |
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| 15:21.12 | gpunk | no, thnx |
| 15:21.30 | gpunk | your mpc is not running anymore, all you see is a ghost window |
| 15:21.33 | gpunk | you can close it |
| 15:21.39 | gpunk | or xkill it |
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| 15:22.02 | joeel84 | usam: Thanks! |
| 15:22.24 | sadasas | but i listen music |
| 15:22.26 | sadasas | now |
| 15:22.35 | sadasas | is running |
| 15:23.14 | sadasas | now is running |
| 15:23.38 | sadasas | but i have this problem not now . Now i listen |
| 15:23.51 | sadasas | but my problem is this gost window |
| 15:23.53 | gpunk | it s mpd that is streaming to your sound card |
| 15:23.58 | sadasas | yes |
| 15:24.05 | gpunk | so restart mpd |
| 15:24.14 | sadasas | but controller mpc now is good |
| 15:24.31 | sadasas | 474498.mp3 |
| 15:24.31 | sadasas | [playing] #22/28 1:10/3:50 (30%) |
| 15:24.31 | sadasas | volume: 82% repeat: on random: on single: off consume: off |
| 15:24.33 | sadasas | is true |
| 15:24.38 | flux242 | you can use xprop to get info about an x window |
| 15:25.00 | sadasas | flux problem now is up |
| 15:25.06 | sadasas | but in some case |
| 15:25.18 | sadasas | process remaning up but not listen.. |
| 15:25.27 | sadasas | this event i need to catch and manage |
| 15:25.30 | gpunk | yes, that s life |
| 15:26.06 | flux242 | ghost windows and zombi processes. Matrix has you |
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| 15:27.03 | sadasas | yes how i catch ? |
| 15:27.18 | sadasas | please i exit crazy |
| 15:27.19 | sadasas | :) |
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| 15:28.37 | gpunk | i already tald you |
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| 15:29.41 | sadasas | fork^? |
| 15:30.04 | sadasas | i do not need to close window |
| 15:30.12 | sadasas | i need to fetch in automation |
| 15:30.14 | sadasas | bash script |
| 15:30.15 | sadasas | :( |
| 15:30.36 | gpunk | you find the mpc process and you starce it with -p |
| 15:30.43 | gpunk | strace* |
| 15:30.49 | sadasas | not find |
| 15:30.55 | gpunk | well, sorry |
| 15:31.10 | sadasas | i haven't pid mpc |
| 15:31.19 | gpunk | me either :) |
| 15:31.40 | sadasas | :( |
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| 15:31.43 | sadasas | please |
| 15:33.00 | gpunk | mpc sends commands to mpd and exits, thats why you dont see it |
| 15:33.53 | sadasas | ok and how i catch problem to freez mpd? |
| 15:34.09 | gpunk | strace -p $PIDOFMPD |
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| 15:34.33 | gpunk | or if it has logs ... |
| 15:34.38 | gpunk | look at the logs |
| 15:35.00 | sadasas | but in need a instantanly solution |
| 15:35.03 | sadasas | in realtime |
| 15:35.09 | sadasas | for continous stream.. |
| 15:35.16 | gpunk | strace -p $PIDOFMPD |
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| 15:36.52 | sadasas | have respond big |
| 15:36.57 | sadasas | that i need? |
| 15:37.03 | sadasas | to see if work? |
| 15:37.25 | gpunk | be my guest |
| 15:38.40 | sadasas | ?? |
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| 15:39.00 | gpunk | that means do what ever you want :) |
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| 15:39.34 | sadasas | :) i need to see if working or ghost |
| 15:39.36 | sadasas | :) |
| 15:39.41 | sadasas | ? |
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| 15:41.02 | gpunk | you hear music ? |
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| 15:41.52 | kfedora | dvs: I downloaded the non-free firmware iso which is almost 4GB and it is still stuck on the detecting network hardware screen |
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| 15:42.39 | sadasas | not i have process |
| 15:42.42 | sadasas | but not listen |
| 15:42.47 | sadasas | mpd process have |
| 15:42.54 | sadasas | but not listen |
| 15:43.02 | sadasas | is ghost now how i catch? |
| 15:43.12 | gpunk | strace -p $PIDOFMPD |
| 15:43.21 | c0untch0cula | is there a easy way to install drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP mode.. lmk ty. |
| 15:43.44 | sadasas | yes i have some information |
| 15:43.49 | dvs | kfedora, what Broadcom chip is it? |
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| 15:44.24 | sadasas | but not hunderstand |
| 15:44.51 | sadasas | ?? |
| 15:45.21 | kfedora | dvs I am not sure tbh |
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| 15:46.05 | gpunk | c0untch0cula what kernel do you have ? |
| 15:46.58 | dvs | kfedora, then skip network detection and try to get it working after the install |
| 15:48.02 | gpunk | I dont know parrot OS, this is debian channel ... |
| 15:48.29 | c0untch0cula | is there a easy way to install drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP mode.. lmk ty. |
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| 15:48.40 | c0untch0cula | Parrot is based on Debian's testing branch (stretch), with a custom Linux 4.13.0 kernel. It follows a rolling release development model. |
| 15:48.40 | kfedora | dvs: how do I skip it without using expert install? |
| 15:48.56 | dvs | kfedora, press ESC? |
| 15:49.04 | gpunk | yes , this is not the proper channel then |
| 15:49.07 | kfedora | pressing esc doesn't do anything |
| 15:49.30 | dvs | kfedora, then I don't know. |
| 15:49.38 | kfedora | maybe i died? |
| 15:49.40 | kfedora | *it |
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| 15:49.46 | c0untch0cula | gpunk, no idea then? |
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| 15:50.02 | gpunk | https://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7601u |
| 15:51.16 | c0untch0cula | tried that |
| 15:51.21 | ilyaigpetrov | In Debian how edge node could one go -- could I, e.g., install latest repositories (made for ubuntu) from kde plasma team (that they use in KDE Neon)? |
| 15:51.35 | c0untch0cula | it had errors after i did "sudo make" |
| 15:51.38 | ilyaigpetrov | s/edge node/bleeding edge |
| 15:52.04 | gpunk | c0untch0cula the driver is already in the kernel since version 4.2 |
| 15:52.25 | c0untch0cula | so the dongle might not support AP mode? |
| 15:52.43 | gpunk | yes , double check with the vendor's site |
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| 15:56.40 | ilyaigpetrov | Are PPA used only in Ubunty or may they be used in Debian? |
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| 15:59.34 | petn-randall | ilyaigpetrov: PPAs are Ubuntu-only, and we don't recommend nor support any users to use PPAs. |
| 15:59.38 | petn-randall | !frankendebian |
| 15:59.38 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 16:00.17 | petn-randall | ilyaigpetrov: If you want newer software, there is stretch-backports for that. |
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| 16:03.14 | rawruw | can I downgrade from systemd to system v init? |
| 16:04.09 | petn-randall | rawruw: You can switch from systemd to sysv init on any stable release of Debian. |
| 16:04.39 | rawruw | petn-randall: nice :D |
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| 16:04.48 | petn-randall | !stretch sysvinit |
| 16:04.48 | dpkg | To replace systemd with sysvinit in stretch, simply "apt-get install sysvinit-core" and reboot. To switch from systemd to runit, "apt-get install runit-systemd", reboot, "apt-get install runit-init", and reboot again. |
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| 16:05.10 | petn-randall | rawruw: See above, it's quite easy. I wouldn't recommend it in any way, though. |
| 16:05.34 | rawruw | thanks :D. Well, I'm working with old people so to speak.. all their systems are old and they refuse to upgrade |
| 16:06.26 | petn-randall | rawruw: If they're running stretch, their system isn't *that* old. |
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| 16:08.22 | rawruw | stretch? |
| 16:08.40 | petn-randall | rawruw: What OS and release are you running? |
| 16:09.58 | rawruw | petn-randall: debian I thought, but I just realized that it's ubuntu.. so I can't install sysvinit-core :( |
| 16:10.17 | petn-randall | rawruw: Ah, then you're in the wrong channel. |
| 16:10.19 | petn-randall | !ubuntu |
| 16:10.19 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 16:10.26 | petn-randall | rawruw: Try the one above. ^^^ |
| 16:10.37 | rawruw | ubuntu simply doesn't run system v init |
| 16:10.44 | petn-randall | shrugs. |
| 16:10.52 | petn-randall | rawruw: I wouldn't know, I don't run Ubuntu. |
| 16:11.33 | rawruw | I'm not a fan of ubuntu but I had an ubuntu machine laying around |
| 16:11.39 | rawruw | lying* |
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| 16:15.42 | Ormu1 | :O |
| 16:15.43 | rawruw | (not crossposting.. comparing distros..). If I mount an USB-device with ext3 and on it have a shell binary with +setuid and owner root.. and then run that program... Will I then get root access? :3 |
| 16:16.06 | jolt | rawruw: I would assume yes, due to the setuid |
| 16:16.19 | Ormu1 | any MIDI specialists here? What soundfont set would provide results closest to that of Windows MIDI interfaces (or something like that, I'm unsure about terminology)? |
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| 16:30.26 | dutchfish | Ormu1, tried the package fluid-soundfont-gm ? |
| 16:31.06 | petn-randall | rawruw: If the admin allows you to mount ext3 partition without uid mapping, they're already putting a lot of trust in you. Anyways, if you have physical access to a machine, I could probably count a few dozen ways to get root on the machine. It's really hard to defend against. |
| 16:31.07 | rawruw | is setuid really a problem though? isn't that pre-configured to be protected against already? |
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| 16:31.34 | Ormu1 | dutchfish: I tried freepats first and it was not perfect. I'm going to try that next |
| 16:31.39 | petn-randall | rawruw: IIRC any users mounted partition are mounted with nosuid, nodev, etc. |
| 16:31.59 | petn-randall | s/users/user/ |
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| 16:32.47 | dutchfish | Ormu1, that soundfont along with qsynth, gave me the best results. |
| 16:33.02 | Ormu1 | hm |
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| 16:35.07 | dutchfish | Ormu1, i use rtkit, rosegarden, cadence and qsynth orchastrated with jackd on 192Khz rate |
| 16:35.19 | Ormu1 | :o |
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| 16:35.36 | Ormu1 | sounds professional, I'm using just Timidity + Pulseaudio now :P |
| 16:35.59 | rawruw | need to reset passwords.. I've forgotten them all. root dir mounted. What do I do now? :p set the password field in shadow to an empty string? |
| 16:36.01 | dutchfish | Ormu1, that works but timidity on a normal kernel is a tat off |
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| 16:39.02 | petn-randall | rawruw: If you're running Ubuntu, you're still in the wrong channel. Pleas ask in #ubuntu. |
| 16:39.53 | rawruw | petn-randall: im on debian now |
| 16:40.09 | rawruw | why are people assuming things. |
| 16:40.20 | n4dir | !chroot |
| 16:40.20 | dpkg | To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target". |
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| 16:40.27 | n4dir | and reset the root password |
| 16:40.45 | teraflops | by reset they mean: passwd root⦠|
| 16:41.11 | n4dir | after chroot you are root, so a simple "passwd" should do. |
| 16:41.26 | rant | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.27 | kfedora | i tried both the debian dvd and the non-free firmware dvd and in both cases I can't get past the detect network part and I can't press escape to get out of it hp mini 210 |
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| 16:48.26 | dutchfish | kfedora, you need a firmware package, you can feed it during install with a usb stick https://packages.debian.org/nl/jessie/firmware-realtek |
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| 16:49.26 | dutchfish | correction https://packages.debian.org/nl/stretch/firmware-realtek |
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| 16:55.57 | petn-randall | rawruw: I'm not assuming anything. You said earlier you're using Ubuntu. |
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| 16:56.58 | petn-randall | !fmrp |
| 16:56.58 | dpkg | If you've forgotten the <MySQL> root password, /etc/init.d/mysql stop; mysqld --skip-grant-tables; mysql -u root; use mysql; UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mynewpassword') WHERE User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; C-d; stop mysqld; /etc/init.d/mysql start See also http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/resetting-permissions.html, <mysql initial password>. |
| 16:57.17 | petn-randall | !frp |
| 16:57.17 | dpkg | For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
| 16:57.23 | petn-randall | rawruw: ^^^ |
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| 17:01.05 | Fannar | Excuse me everyone, just excersising my freedoms here. |
| 17:01.25 | Fannar | Such hyptocrits. |
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| 17:02.37 | rawruw | Fannar: ? |
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| 17:03.56 | Fannar | Bunch of assclowns dragging me into their shit. |
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| 17:05.02 | RoyK | Fannar: do you want to talk about this? |
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| 17:05.34 | teraflops | not here please |
| 17:05.59 | RoyK | teraflops: perhaps not ;) |
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| 17:06.23 | Fannar | I have the freedom to use whatever linux distrobution i like with out fear or reproach or ridicule |
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| 17:08.00 | RoyK | Fannar: I daresay noone has doubted that |
| 17:08.25 | rawruw | I just installed sysvinit-core. Am I not running systemd now, but initv? or is systemd just wrapping initv? |
| 17:08.55 | indistylo | cinnamon crashing into fallback mode after pacman -Syu |
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| 17:09.37 | Fannar | It's dogma. These two parties need to figure this out and leave me out of it. |
| 17:09.40 | Fannar | I will continue to use my freedoms whatever flavor they may be. |
| 17:09.45 | Fannar | Nuff said. |
| 17:09.46 | RoyK | Fannar: except me, of course, I have this little motel and all visitors must login in a terminal with slackware 2.1 and fvvm2 and prove they can understand the OS before they are allowed a room |
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| 17:10.37 | n4dir | rawruw: pretty sure you do run sysv, not system wrapping around sysv (my reasoning is that you can apt-get remove systemd, and it will still work) |
| 17:11.21 | teraflops | rawruw: type pgrep systemd if you see a "1" at the top, youre running systemd |
| 17:11.48 | areyouloco | whats wrong with franken-debian? i am running this monster and everything is fine |
| 17:12.28 | dTal | ...for now... |
| 17:12.31 | areyouloco | I think the key is good apt-pinning and thats it |
| 17:12.34 | teraflops | areyouloco: Frankenstein is cool, it's just frankendebian is not supported here and youre on your own |
| 17:12.53 | areyouloco | teraflops: I am always on my own inside my head |
| 17:13.12 | rawruw | teraflops: it prints 1724, that's not exactly not running :P |
| 17:13.55 | areyouloco | Does installing one package out of the stable/testing repo automatically makes a frank? |
| 17:14.46 | dvs | areyouloco, yes because it's going to install more than one package. |
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| 17:17.10 | teraflops | not always, but you know⦠people cannot stop there and they always install more packages |
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| 17:17.25 | OS-32195 | ANICK PaHUEllo |
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| 17:17.40 | dvs | snags another password |
| 17:18.03 | n4dir | rawruw: pgrep -l systemd ; will also list the process name. Might be worth a try |
| 17:18.03 | teraflops | OS-32195: I wonder if youre a bot, I have my logs full of nonsense like that |
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| 17:18.49 | rawruw | n4dir: I get output, but I don't know what the output means. 1754 systemd-logind |
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| 17:19.14 | n4dir | yeah, that is some stuff needed for "whatever", but not the init system, as far i can tell |
| 17:19.37 | rawruw | I'm using systemvinit now and.. I want to puke. |
| 17:19.45 | teraflops | rawruw: what's your goal? |
| 17:19.59 | rawruw | teraflops: working on an old server, they refuse to upgrade. |
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| 17:20.37 | teraflops | rawruw: why dont you start by the beginning? |
| 17:20.46 | rawruw | teraflops: "updating" myself on it. Though I'll just write some applications for it. |
| 17:20.47 | teraflops | I mean explaining your issue |
| 17:21.05 | rawruw | teraflops: I'm just avoiding gotchas by learning about systemv |
| 17:21.15 | rawruw | sysvinit* |
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| 17:21.34 | rawruw | there's nothing much to it. |
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| 17:21.48 | Fannar | don't test me. |
| 17:21.51 | Fannar | frankly do not care |
| 17:22.02 | rawruw | Fannar: >:( |
| 17:22.21 | Fannar | I X 3 0 |
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| 17:32.17 | lhx | any particular reason vscode isn't packaged for sid yet? |
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| 17:33.06 | RoyK | !debian next |
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| 17:33.18 | RoyK | !sid |
| 17:33.18 | dpkg | from memory, sid is the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that when it breaks, you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
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| 17:34.57 | jelly | RoyK: you can /msg dpkg stuff, to find out if it's useful before letting the bot write about it in channel |
| 17:36.11 | RoyK | jelly: I know, but I was thinking of telling lhx about using the other chanel |
| 17:37.20 | thecliguy | There's another Debian channel? |
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| 17:38.25 | RoyK | thecliguy: there's #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 17:38.53 | jelly | lhx: someone has to do the work, and someone could ask for its inclusion first via a WNPP |
| 17:39.05 | jelly | judd: bug wnpp vscode |
| 17:39.06 | judd | Sorry, no wnpp bugs were found. |
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| 17:40.11 | jelly | !rfp |
| 17:40.11 | dpkg | Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, the section on that page "Adding new entries with "reportbug"" is a good place to start. Technically, a RFP is a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: ", ask me about <wnpp>. The best way of getting software packaged is to do it yourself: ask me about <nmg>. |
| 17:40.42 | n4dir | jelly: and someone able to package it (maintainer, developer ) needs to have interest to do it :-) |
| 17:40.51 | jelly | lhx: but apparently noone's done such a request so for |
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| 17:55.31 | lhx | thanks... i'll look into making a request |
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| 18:19.31 | rawruw | I just downgraded to systemvinit. is the logging system no longer systemd now? |
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| 18:20.15 | jhutchins | rawruw: You should revert to dmesg and syslog. |
| 18:20.33 | jhutchins | rawruw: Both of which are also supported with systemd, so they should be in place. |
| 18:20.52 | rawruw | jhutchins: dmesg and syslog are the old logging systems? |
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| 19:05.24 | mar77i | hello #debian. I'm writing a script to set up our infrastructure, and I don't want to be using curl -k to download an important script. however, I noticed the installation doesn't have common certificates installed. do you happen to know what package they're in? |
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| 19:08.55 | teraflops | mar77i: ca-certificates |
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| 19:09.00 | crcrcr | can i create a xorg.conf file if i don't have one? |
| 19:09.08 | teraflops | ,v ca-certificates |
| 19:09.09 | judd | Package: ca-certificates on amd64 -- wheezy: 20130119+deb7u1; jessie: 20141019+deb8u3; stretch: 20161130+nmu1; buster: 20170717; sid: 20170717 |
| 19:09.34 | teraflops | crcrcr: you usually do not need one |
| 19:09.46 | towo` | crcrcr, what makes you think you need an xorg.conf file? |
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| 19:10.44 | crcrcr | i'm trying to configure a special usb device |
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| 19:12.01 | crcrcr | i have to add some lines in my xorg.conf file but i don't have one |
| 19:12.21 | teraflops | crcrcr: write a snippet |
| 19:12.40 | crcrcr | snippet? |
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| 19:13.19 | teraflops | crcrcr: yeah containing only the lines you need and you drop it at /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d |
| 19:14.49 | crcrcr | i don't have xorg.conf.d either |
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| 19:15.37 | teraflops | mkdir it |
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| 19:16.47 | teraflops | iirc .d folder was a debian idea, I wonder why there's no /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d in debian installations |
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| 19:18.25 | crcrcr | there's one in usr/share/x11 |
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| 19:19.04 | crcrcr | but i'm not sure it's the same |
| 19:19.19 | towo` | crcrcr, is not |
| 19:19.27 | towo` | and don't edit files there |
| 19:19.30 | phogg | teraflops: surely not, it dates from sysvinit's introduction does it not? |
| 19:19.31 | teraflops | you want /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d |
| 19:19.34 | jelly | rawruw: which debian release is this supposed to be? |
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| 19:20.04 | towo` | crcrcr, if there is a file, you want to edit, copy it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d |
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| 19:20.49 | crcrcr | should i create the folder? |
| 19:20.58 | towo` | sure |
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| 19:21.42 | towo` | teraflops, xorg.conf.d was not a debian idea, it is an idea from upstream |
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| 19:22.11 | teraflops | towo`: I meant .d folders concept not xorg one specifically |
| 19:22.29 | teraflops | and maybe I'm wrong |
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| 19:49.34 | muser | hi |
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| 19:50.23 | ZSky | Is it a problem connectin my server via SSH with a password (and not with private/public key ssh-keygen)? |
| 19:50.31 | ZSky | What are the possible security problems? |
| 19:50.50 | metastable | ZSky: The security of your system is entirely dependent on the quality of your password. |
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| 19:51.33 | Wulf | ZSky: why? Don't use passwords! Thanks. |
| 19:51.42 | mspo | a key + passphrase is two-factor :) |
| 19:51.49 | mspo | a password is one |
| 19:52.31 | mspo | does debian have a blacklistd-compiled sshd? that would help |
| 19:52.44 | mspo | (fail2ban kind of sucks but is decent compared to nothing) |
| 19:52.56 | rawruw | jelly: never mind, I'm a retard. The rc script is there |
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| 19:54.19 | teraflops | sshguard is a thing too |
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| 19:55.47 | ZSky | metastable: let's say I have a 12 alphanumeric characters generated with a CSPRNG |
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| 19:56.28 | ZSky | metastable: what is potential problem, and how does RSA pub / pvt solve it? |
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| 19:57.15 | teraflops | metastable: using passwords itself is a weakness |
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| 19:57.43 | ZSky | teraflops: how does using a PUB/PVT rsa key solve it? |
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| 19:57.54 | ZSky | (I understand how RSA works, the maths in it, etc.) |
| 19:58.14 | teraflops | I wasn't talking about that |
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| 19:59.28 | ZSky | teraflops: what do you mean? |
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| 20:00.04 | teraflops | e.g smart cards |
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| 20:00.54 | ZSky | teraflops: what do you use for your own SSH? |
| 20:01.00 | teraflops | yubikey |
| 20:01.03 | ZSky | prv/pub key? |
| 20:01.06 | teraflops | yep |
| 20:01.31 | ZSky | what happens if you loose your yubikey? |
| 20:01.40 | ZSky | or if your child breaks it? |
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| 20:02.17 | teraflops | i grab another one |
| 20:02.34 | ZSky | teraflops: so your key is stored somewhere else? |
| 20:02.44 | ZSky | where? |
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| 20:03.14 | teraflops | yeah, you can do it several ways, from paper to a copy inside a safe |
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| 20:03.40 | ZSky | i need to totally change my security |
| 20:03.42 | teraflops | but yeah, that's the idea, private key is inside the smart card |
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| 20:03.56 | ZSky | i can't remember all these passwords anymore |
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| 20:04.05 | annadane | keepassx? |
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| 20:05.01 | ZSky | annadane: there's a master password for it, right? |
| 20:05.09 | teraflops | ZSky: indeed, and I hate when you forget a passwd/it expires and you cannot use old ones :P |
| 20:05.10 | annadane | yep |
| 20:05.32 | ZSky | annadane: if someone knows the master password, all passwords are exposed? |
| 20:06.09 | teraflops | that's the idea, you unlock the db with a master passwd |
| 20:06.14 | ZSky | hum ok |
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| 20:06.26 | annadane | i actually don't know much about keepassx but it wouldn't surprise me if it itself used 2fa |
| 20:06.39 | annadane | or if you have an option |
| 20:07.15 | ZSky | Isn't there a plain file solution? like inside Sublime Text with a plugin that would encrypt? |
| 20:07.52 | teraflops | annadane: it has a plugin iirc |
| 20:08.10 | annadane | i mean, if you're just worried that you'll forget the password, come up with something you won't forget, like a passphrase instead of a random collection of numerals |
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| 20:08.25 | annadane | like xkcd's "correct horse battery staple" |
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| 20:08.43 | teraflops | smartcard + pin looks same if you ask me |
| 20:08.47 | teraflops | saner^ |
| 20:09.00 | ZSky | annadane: yeah this xkcd is cool |
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| 20:10.48 | JohnFeerx | Hi |
| 20:10.57 | Ael | HELLO. |
| 20:11.04 | ZSky | Hy |
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| 20:11.06 | mspo | ZSky: the private key is something you have, plus the passphrase is something you know |
| 20:11.06 | JohnFeerx | spanish? |
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| 20:11.09 | annadane | !es |
| 20:11.10 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la lÃnea de chat. |
| 20:11.14 | mspo | ZSky: a password is just something you know |
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| 20:17.49 | hiya | Can anyone here try to connect to "irc.mozilla.org" with SSL in hexchat? It does not work for me. I see that it is some ciper suite issue |
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| 20:18.39 | Satou | Hey guys, I have a problem with network manager. It overrides a mac address i generate upon bootup (created a script in init.d). |
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| 20:18.50 | annadane | hiya, works for me |
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| 20:19.02 | Kobaz | having trouble upgrading... insserv: Starting stop-bootlogd depends on rmnologin and therefore on system facility `$all' which can not be true! |
| 20:19.13 | hiya | I get * Connection failed (SSL handshake timed out) |
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| 20:19.15 | Kobaz | ...dist-upgrade |
| 20:19.24 | annadane | Kobaz, stable? |
| 20:19.29 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 20:19.32 | hiya | Anarchic: which version of hexchat? |
| 20:19.48 | annadane | 2.12.4 - i'm on sid |
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| 20:21.12 | hiya | annadane: I am on stretch |
| 20:21.16 | hiya | I think there is some issue |
| 20:21.24 | matrix_architect | hiya, you have to allow wrong ssl certificate to enter |
| 20:21.32 | matrix_architect | check the box |
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| 20:21.52 | Ormu1 | dutchfish: fluid-soundfont-gm seems to be pretty good |
| 20:21.55 | Ormu1 | thanks |
| 20:23.09 | annadane | Kobaz, maybe provide your entire output |
| 20:23.11 | annadane | !paste |
| 20:23.11 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 20:23.38 | Kobaz | annadane: i temporarily moved /etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd and i'm now able to upgrade |
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| 20:24.06 | annadane | found http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=53192 but it's from 2010 |
| 20:24.06 | Kobaz | annadane: basically i get errors upgrading any package... there's just like an in-between distros problem at the moment |
| 20:24.27 | Kobaz | major upgrades will do that.... (squeeze -> wheezy) |
| 20:24.35 | annadane | if you google it, it seems to be a pretty common problem |
| 20:24.42 | Kobaz | right, yeah |
| 20:24.53 | Kobaz | i'll see what happens when everything is upgrades, if i put the file back and i still have issues |
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| 20:25.23 | annadane | well, be cautious about upgrading + rebooting if you moved init |
| 20:25.28 | annadane | because things may not start |
| 20:25.39 | Kobaz | who said anythign about moving init |
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| 20:25.49 | Kobaz | i moved stop-bootlogd, which is a shutdown script |
| 20:25.50 | annadane | moving a component within /etc/init.d, i mean |
| 20:25.55 | annadane | ah, okay |
| 20:26.01 | Kobaz | it's pretty innocuous |
| 20:26.06 | annadane | that's fine then |
| 20:26.18 | Kobaz | bootlogd will just get kill -9'd at the end |
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| 20:27.54 | Kobaz | now for the fun part, upgrading 100 perl modules |
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| 20:30.14 | rawruw | so there's no "global" script that runs at boots and a corresponding one at shutdown? |
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| 20:30.22 | rawruw | omfg.. never mind. |
| 20:30.30 | Kobaz | rc.local |
| 20:30.34 | rawruw | I wanted to ask this level 2-5 are for multi-user levels. Is there a rule of thumb here of when they're runned? |
| 20:30.37 | rawruw | and thanks Kobaz |
| 20:30.51 | Kobaz | rc.local is kind of your autoexec.bat of yore |
| 20:30.56 | rawruw | what does rc stand for? |
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| 20:31.24 | Kobaz | resource i believe |
| 20:31.45 | rawruw | is it dist specific, does it belong to a specific init system? |
| 20:31.48 | Kobaz | and use /etc/rc.local... not /etc/init.d/rc.local |
| 20:31.50 | Kobaz | sysvinit |
| 20:32.03 | Kobaz | it's debian's own spin on a user-defined startup script |
| 20:32.09 | Kobaz | other distros can be different |
| 20:32.27 | Kobaz | sysvinit doesn't define a standard for that as far as i know |
| 20:32.37 | rawruw | ok thanks |
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| 20:33.05 | Kobaz | for custom shutdown, you're better off putting something special in /etc/rc0 etc |
| 20:33.22 | Kobaz | because your going to want to hook into shutdown prior to killall -9 |
| 20:35.29 | rawruw | I looked into the K10halt script (last to run) in rc0.d/. So the following must happen somewhere else since I didn't see that in that script: sending a "normal" kill signal to all processes and waiting for the services (the other K-scripts) and other processess to terminate before killall -9. Where's that happening? |
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| 20:36.56 | Kobaz | its been a while since i dove into the details |
| 20:37.03 | Kobaz | half itself probably does the final all process kill |
| 20:37.09 | AndrewPRS | hi there guys!! anyone knows of any utility to rip the audio contents of a dvd? |
| 20:37.15 | AndrewPRS | to flac |
| 20:37.21 | Kobaz | adrenaline: k3b |
| 20:37.27 | Kobaz | convert to wav, and then convert to flac |
| 20:37.48 | AndrewPRS | with avconv? |
| 20:37.57 | AndrewPRS | or which tool do you recommend? |
| 20:38.11 | Kobaz | sox can convert to flac |
| 20:38.18 | Kobaz | sox track_01.wav track_01.flac |
| 20:38.29 | Kobaz | there's also: http://soundconverter.org/ |
| 20:38.34 | towo` | there are no tracks on a dvd |
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| 20:38.49 | Kobaz | ooooh dvd, my eyes glanced over that part |
| 20:39.02 | Kobaz | AndrewPRS: dvd... you're getting into dvdcss most likly |
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| 20:39.12 | AndrewPRS | yes, I have my pink floyd DVD and want to store its audio in flac |
| 20:40.00 | Kobaz | AndrewPRS: if it's a movie with associated soundtrack you just rip the whole thing and then you'll have a file with both... use handbrake to extract out the audio stream |
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| 20:40.33 | AndrewPRS | its not, its a DVD which contains some high quality audio in it |
| 20:40.36 | hiya | https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/1840#issuecomment-285921329 |
| 20:40.43 | hiya | I am effected by this issue |
| 20:40.48 | Kobaz | plain dvd-audio... not sure then |
| 20:40.56 | AndrewPRS | s/effected/affected |
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| 20:41.24 | AndrewPRS | Kobaz, no problem thanks anyways I'll search a bit more on google ;) |
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| 20:48.25 | AndrewPRS | does anyone know a nice UPnP sever? |
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| 20:52.23 | Kobaz | AndrewPRS: you can try and see if k3b will do dvd-audio |
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| 20:54.04 | AndrewPRS | Kobaz, nice idea! I will |
| 20:54.13 | AndrewPRS | I might try handbrake as well |
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| 21:10.54 | jhutchins | towo`: Yes, DVDs can have tracks. |
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| 21:12.23 | teraflops | DVDs have chapters |
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| 21:13.07 | jhutchins | http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion |
| 21:13.07 | jhutchins | http://www.cdrfaq.org/ |
| 21:13.09 | jhutchins | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Books |
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| 21:13.24 | jhutchins | teraflops: There's more than one standard that can be used. |
| 21:13.36 | teraflops | a video file has audio track or tracks but that's not related to DVDs only |
| 21:14.28 | teraflops | from what I understood from AndrewPRS issue this is a standar DVD video disc |
| 21:14.43 | teraflops | vlc can do what he wants btw |
| 21:14.50 | teraflops | he/she/ey |
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| 21:14.56 | jhutchins | teraflops: I thought he said it was a high-def audio disk on a DVD medium. |
| 21:15.06 | teraflops | oh, I missed that |
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| 21:15.53 | earthian_ | hello, does anybody know what this kswapd0 process is doing with all the IO and CPU when there is like 120mb of ram and no swap or with swap? |
| 21:16.01 | jhutchins | There are some oddball formats out there where people have tried to improve on the audio of the standard CD Audio format. |
| 21:16.16 | earthian_ | My system usually get's almost frozen during that time.. |
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| 21:17.17 | areyouloco | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.53 | teraflops | earthian_: mind telling us hardware specs of that machine or ⦠thing? |
| 21:18.26 | earthian_ | It is a lenovo x240 laptop with intel core i5 and 8 gigs of ram |
| 21:18.36 | earthian_ | two ssds |
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| 21:22.41 | jhutchins | areyouloco: The Debian repositories should have source packages that match the binary packages. |
| 21:22.46 | jhutchins | !source |
| 21:22.46 | dpkg | As an overview: to work with Debian source packages, add a <deb-src> line to your sources list; cd to a location with free space; download the source package with <apt-get source>; edit <debian/rules> to taste; use <dpkg-buildpackage> to build the new .deb. For more details, also ask me about <package recompile> <backport> <nmg> <policy> <source package> |
| 21:22.55 | earthian_ | basically when the free memory is getting low, kswapd0 process kicks in and almost freezes the system with high IO wait and CPU times. I would expect an OOM killer do some work there when the machine is out of memory, but freezing is totaly a bug |
| 21:24.26 | earthian_ | Linux eanb 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.51-1 (2017-09-28) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 21:24.52 | areyouloco | jhutchins: thanks but I know that. I have more than one source repo and I want to list all the possible versions. and second. how to I choose which source package to get? |
| 21:24.56 | jhutchins | earthian_: You might do a health check on the ssds. |
| 21:25.07 | earthian_ | but swap is off |
| 21:25.30 | izhayim | hi |
| 21:25.57 | jhutchins | areyouloco: Again, versions should match the package versions, you can specify the version with apt-get. |
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| 21:26.48 | trebor_dki | hello, i have a little problem with winetricks and crypt32. how can i update to a more recent one (the repository one is from 2014)? is apt-get install wine-staging worth a try? |
| 21:26.51 | jhutchins | earthian_: I'm not very good at searching the kernel.org documentation, but that's where you'll find definitive answers. |
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| 21:28.09 | jhutchins | trebor_dki: You can check backports. |
| 21:28.38 | jhutchins | trebor_dki: Some people use wine directly from winehq. |
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| 21:28.55 | jhutchins | trebor_dki: That means getting support directly from them too though. |
| 21:28.57 | jhutchins | !wine |
| 21:28.57 | dpkg | methinks wine is ine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) is an application intended to allow execution of Microsoft Windows programs on Unix-like operating systems. Application compatibility database: http://appdb.winehq.org/ .https://wiki.debian.org/Wine http://wiki.winehq.org/HowTo http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ #winehq on irc.freenode.net. See <mmap_min_addr> regarding use of Win16 binaries. See also <newer wine>. |
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| 21:30.20 | c0untch0cula | Parrot is based on Debian's testing branch (stretch), with a custom Linux 4.13.0 kernel. It follows a rolling release development model. |
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| 21:32.25 | trebor_dki | jhutchins: thanks. i'll check the direct thing. |
| 21:33.24 | izhayim | can someone ping me? just to test hexchat notifications |
| 21:33.37 | petemc | !ping izhayim |
| 21:33.37 | dpkg | tolls a 5-meter-bell over izhayim's head |
| 21:33.44 | jhutchins | izhayim: irssi ftw |
| 21:33.53 | izhayim | ty |
| 21:33.55 | izhayim | it works |
| 21:34.03 | teraflops | izhayim: you can quote yourself |
| 21:34.20 | izhayim | izhayim |
| 21:34.45 | teraflops | !echo izhayim hi there |
| 21:34.45 | dpkg | izhayim hi there |
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| 21:39.03 | izhayim | !echo izhayim hi |
| 21:39.04 | dpkg | izhayim hi |
| 21:39.07 | izhayim | !echo izhayim hi |
| 21:39.59 | rawruw | weird questoin, but can you execute files on ntfs mounts? they don't have the X flag |
| 21:40.11 | annadane | izhayim, you can configure notifications by settings - preferences - alerts |
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| 21:40.38 | izhayim | how'd you know what irc client I'm using? |
| 21:41.55 | annadane | because you said "hexchat"... |
| 21:42.11 | trebor_dki | hm. could someone check if "winetricks crypt32" works? i am using winehq-staging (2.19) and I thought libwine now would come with some new winetricks, but I am still on the version of 2014 ... |
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| 21:43.52 | jhutchins | trebor_dki: Many years ago I learned to use Linux tools that did what I wanted - usually even better - and I never went back to trying to force Windows software to work. It doesn't work in Windows, why should it work in Linux? |
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| 21:45.16 | trebor_dki | it is about taxes .... the bad thing is, i managed to get it working on the machine of my father in law. now on my own one, i fail .... |
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| 21:46.02 | jhutchins | Heh. Googling crypt32 turns up about 200,000 results - almost all of them concerning errors. |
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| 21:47.30 | trebor_dki | the wineticks version of 2016 fixes the error, but i do not get there .... |
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| 21:53.24 | trebor_dki | uname -a leads to debian 3.16.43 - what debian is this, jessie? |
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| 21:57.08 | areyouloco | trebor_dki: if you have acces you can chceck that by lsb_release -a |
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| 21:59.04 | merethan | Hi all |
| 21:59.37 | merethan | Honeyd seems to be no more in the latest debian. (No development for 10 years so yeah..) |
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| 21:59.49 | merethan | Can someone recommend me an alternative honeypot? |
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| 22:02.11 | Wulf | merethan: write your own? |
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| 22:03.42 | merethan | I'm just experimenting Wulf |
| 22:04.34 | merethan | Also, securiry is not my expertise, unlikely I can write a honeypot which has any real use. |
| 22:04.40 | merethan | *security |
| 22:04.50 | trebor_dki | areyouloco: thanks, very nice, works perfect. |
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| 22:08.57 | trebor_dki | downloading winetricks directly via wget seems to be enough - its just a (long) script ;) |
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| 22:11.50 | merethan | My snort box does not have X or Wayland, hence it is always in console mode. What mechanism governs the screen powerdown time? |
| 22:12.08 | merethan | I don't want it to go into stand by |
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| 22:44.40 | c0untch0cula | is there a easy way to install drivers for a MT7601u Wifi Dongle ? I can't put it into AP mode.. lmk ty. |
| 22:45.04 | Wulf | c0untch0cula: check kernel messages |
| 22:45.14 | c0untch0cula | how do i do that? |
| 22:47.22 | areyouloco | c0untch0cula: dmesg or sudo dmesg |
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| 22:48.46 | rawruw | if I want to add a service to autostart in sysvinit, I'll add it to the appropriate runlevel? |
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| 22:49.24 | Wulf | rawruw: put the runlevels into the init script, then update-init defaults XXX |
| 22:49.27 | Wulf | iirc. |
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| 22:50.09 | Wulf | or update-rc.d |
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| 22:51.45 | rawruw | that made no sense :> |
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| 22:56.31 | metastable | rawruw: Which Debian release are you using? |
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| 23:00.15 | donald | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:02.09 | rawruw | metastable: one of the latest, but I downgraded to sysvinit.. got the most annoying customer ever that refuse to upgrade because they've written a lot of scripts for sysvinit. It's an intelligent drilling machine so I'm making sure I'm getting everything right. |
| 23:02.26 | rawruw | I'm not even supposed to do linux.. but I'm the only one knowing it. |
| 23:02.41 | rawruw | long story.. but I'm just playing around so far. |
| 23:03.00 | metastable | rawruw: So, first, systemd can handle sysv init scripts. Second, I'm almost certain that trying to rip systemd out of stretch is unsupported. |
| 23:03.06 | rawruw | was wondering whether it's that bad to just symlink scripts to the right rcN.d/ directory |
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| 23:24.32 | mar77i | teraflops: thanks for earlier, I found that one myself. |
| 23:25.00 | rawruw | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:26.03 | mar77i | rawruw: actually, no. I commonly use a distro where this doesn't exist any longer, and not all software might obey these rules. |
| 23:26.25 | jhutchins | rawruw: There are some variations, but mostly. |
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| 23:28.14 | mar77i | anyway, it seems when I install postgresql or postgresql-all, I get a service file pointing to /bin/true. What am I doing wrong there? What package do I have to install so I can run the real service? |
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| 23:29.35 | jhutchins | !postgres |
| 23:29.35 | dpkg | PostgreSQL is a robust, mature and full-featured relational database implementing a large subset of <SQL>. Supports views, stored procedures, triggers and scripting. Packaged in Debian, read /usr/share/doc/postgresql-common/README.Debian.gz ("for the impatient"). http://wiki.debian.org/PostgreSql http://postgresql.org/ #postgresql on irc.freenode.net. See also <postgresql jessie>, <phppgadmin>, <pg readline>, <postgresql backports>. |
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| 23:30.18 | mar77i | buckles up zless |
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| 23:34.19 | rawruw | mar77i: so it's outdated crap? |
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| 23:35.19 | dTal | rawruw: is your nick the noise Scooby Doo makes when he realises something bad's about to happen? |
| 23:37.44 | rawruw | dTal: it's the typical enemy sound animals make on snes games. "rawraw" |
| 23:38.18 | mar77i | rawruw: so uh. the last change on the alleged "website" of tcp wrappers (according to wikipedia) was made in 2015... http://www.softpanorama.org/Net/Network_security/TCP_wrappers/tcp_wrappers_configuration_language.shtml |
| 23:38.51 | mar77i | I'm not goinig to argue "new" "old" or "outdated" around here, though ;) |
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| 23:40.00 | rawruw | mar77i: it runs on xinetd or whatever that's called, and that's systemv stuff :p |
| 23:40.09 | rawruw | kill me. |
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| 23:40.51 | mar77i | I merrily refuse, silly. |
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