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| 00:03.33 | amflir | any ideas for not losing dmesg data when log buffer is not big. I don't want to change the log buffer size. |
| 00:04.26 | Sveta | is this what log rotation is for |
| 00:05.22 | amflir | Sveta, that's it. how can I do this? |
| 00:07.20 | Sveta | i think the tool is called 'logrotate' |
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| 00:07.43 | Sveta | it has configuration file /etc/logrotate.conf and configuration directory /etc/logrotate.d |
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| 00:10.39 | rawruw | running one of the latest debian (stretch). I've downgraded from systemd to sysvinit. I'm looking in /etc/ and the usual places but can't find no syslog config file there. Do I need to install some syslog daemon to get one? |
| 00:12.18 | Sveta | rawruw: /etc/syslog.conf is in the inetutils-syslogd package, as https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=syslog.conf&mode=exactfilename&suite=stable&arch=any tells me |
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| 00:15.30 | rawruw | if you use rsyslog or syslog-ng instead, are they configured the same? |
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| 00:20.42 | Sveta | rawruw: i'm not familiar with them, but that page does not list these packages, so their config file is probably somewhere else |
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| 01:02.43 | lorfds | hello |
| 01:03.11 | lorfds | i have a pretty simple piping question |
| 01:03.20 | lorfds | i have some text that looks like "my text" |
| 01:03.30 | lorfds | i want to use this in a cp comman |
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| 01:03.55 | lorfds | so cp ~/my/file.1 ~/text/file.2 |
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| 01:04.17 | lorfds | i'm trying to use xrgs to do this |
| 01:04.37 | lorfds | but i can't figure out how to concatenate a string with two vars parsed out of xargs |
| 01:05.11 | lorfds | i'm explaining this pretty poorly |
| 01:05.17 | lorfds | but you should get this gist |
| 01:05.23 | lorfds | let me know if anyone is here to respond |
| 01:05.43 | abrotman | a) don't use spaces in file names b) profit |
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| 01:06.18 | lorfds | abrotman... where are there spaces? |
| 01:06.35 | lorfds | you misunderstand what i want |
| 01:06.49 | lorfds | i want to take this string...which has a space between "fields" |
| 01:06.54 | abrotman | you can use awk to set variable names, and use those in place. |
| 01:07.01 | abrotman | And really, this is a question for #bash |
| 01:07.11 | lorfds | and take part 1 of the string, and use it in the path of the origin file, and use part 2 in the part of the destination file |
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| 01:07.56 | lorfds | fair enough i'll ask in bash |
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| 02:18.43 | MileyCyrus | Best Picture Ever https://imgur.com/7hnIcE8 |
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| 02:19.39 | Troubleshooting | anyone seen this error before? https://imgur.com/7hnIcE8 |
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| 02:54.58 | HeXiLeD | collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 02:55.01 | HeXiLeD | any tips on how to fix ? |
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| 05:29.26 | foo | I had an ed25519 key set up with my amazon instance. And I think I wiped the key accidentally on my system, but not sure. I can see my finger in aws, and I can see the matching ip in known_hosts locally. Is there a way to tell what key I used with aws |
| 05:29.30 | foo | ? |
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| 05:32.01 | P666P | +foo i think there is no way to get back the key. you have to reset the keys |
| 05:32.11 | foo | P666P: I promise I'm not crying right now. |
| 05:32.14 | foo | :) |
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| 05:32.35 | P666P | :) |
| 05:32.48 | foo | Well, not sure if you're aware - that can't be done on aws. I have to snapshot, mount snapshot, get access, change stuff, rebuild instance based off snapshot... bleh |
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| 05:34.12 | P666P | few days ago the same thing was with me in digital ocean and it gives the access to instance via web terminal |
| 05:35.36 | foo | P666P: ah, I don't think aws does that - will have to check, thank you |
| 05:35.48 | P666P | :) |
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| 05:36.58 | P666P | foo: there must be a way to access the instance |
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| 05:37.28 | foo | P666P: there is, but it takes me time to get access. IIRC |
| 05:37.31 | foo | I'm checking backups now |
| 05:37.42 | P666P | ask for the support to AWS team |
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| 05:40.34 | foo | P666P: actually, I may have the key on my system. Is there a way to correlate known hosts ip of remote machine to know what my local key is? |
| 05:41.52 | P666P | foo: I don't think so |
| 05:42.40 | foo | Sweet! I got it |
| 05:42.56 | P666P | ? |
| 05:43.06 | foo | I was using the wrong ssh username. |
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| 05:44.52 | P666P | foo: these kind of great things also happens with me :) |
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| 06:46.12 | radicsf | hello |
| 06:46.46 | radicsf | i have a 32bit debian vpn that I try to upgrade with apt-get |
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| 06:47.55 | radicsf | apt-get upgrade gives me an error when upgrading linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae |
| 06:48.11 | radicsf | the error is "subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 17" |
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| 06:48.58 | radicsf | I couldn't find a solution with google. could someone help me out? |
| 06:49.18 | radicsf | a few details are here: http://paste.debian.net/994634/ |
| 06:51.23 | jelly | Failed to symbolic-link /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-686-pae to initrd.img. # is weird |
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| 06:53.40 | jelly | radicsf: show "ls -ld /boot/initrd.img /initrd.img", and is there enough free space in /boot ? "df /boot" |
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| 06:57.33 | radicsf | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/994635/ |
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| 07:04.23 | radicsf | "ls -la /boot/ |grep initrd" finds nothing |
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| 07:25.24 | jelly | radicsf: what _do_ you have in /boot then? |
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| 07:26.20 | radicsf | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/994637/ |
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| 07:27.02 | corefrl | hi |
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| 07:28.51 | jelly | radicsf: so initrd wasn't generated at all, yet. Run dpkg --configure linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae, see if it fails again the same way. |
| 07:28.58 | corefrl | I've two NICs, one, the main, is connected to my LAN and has the default route rule, the second is connected on a WAN and has only the ip address, how can achieve that some apps binds on the second nic and have a different route? there is a way to manage routes at application level? another way that I was thinking is using some paravirtualization like vserver or so on...any hint? |
| 07:29.57 | jelly | corefrl: look into "policy based routing" |
| 07:30.42 | jelly | or put the default route on the router for the public iface |
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| 07:32.28 | radicsf | jelly: yes it failed again: http://paste.debian.net/994638/ |
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| 07:33.34 | jelly | radicsf: what if you manually remove /initrd.img* first? |
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| 07:39.15 | radicsf | jelly: woow it worked! :) http://paste.debian.net/994639/ |
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| 07:39.28 | radicsf | jelly: thank you very much, thank you! :) |
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| 07:40.09 | jelly | that's weird. |
| 07:40.34 | jelly | oh well, as long as it's fixed. Those symlinks are mostly useless these days anyway. |
| 07:41.09 | radicsf | it seems it's ok to me |
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| 07:52.44 | radicsf | jelly: it is all ok. the reboot went fine. I really appreciate your help! thank you :) |
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| 08:00.15 | dionysus69 | ssh users can you please get into security channel? shady behavior on two different digital ocean instances |
| 08:00.15 | dionysus69 | on one, id_rsa got passphrase by itself |
| 08:00.20 | dionysus69 | security alert! |
| 08:00.35 | dionysus69 | both are debian stretch instances |
| 08:00.45 | dionysus69 | on another, known_hosts id_rsa and id_rsa.pub just disappeared |
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| 08:13.21 | JustASlacker | and why should we care? |
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| 08:14.11 | fred_tv | Hi, for Dell Poweredge2900 is there a specific ESXi 5.5U3 do be downloaded ? |
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| 08:15.12 | JustASlacker | how is that a debian question |
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| 08:17.17 | dionysus69 | JustASlacker: ye weird behavior effecting ssh on debian, I think everyone should care |
| 08:17.38 | ktechmidas | dionysus69: if you think there |
| 08:17.51 | ktechmidas | *there's a bug/exploit in SSH |
| 08:17.55 | JustASlacker | isnt that more related to digital ocean |
| 08:18.12 | dionysus69 | dunno, I have a scenario which no one yet could give explaination for |
| 08:18.22 | ktechmidas | then report it as a bug report upstream, with details, reproducible, proof of concept, etc |
| 08:18.23 | dionysus69 | two different weird behaviors |
| 08:18.38 | JustASlacker | well, I have a scenario. bad guys at digital ocean |
| 08:18.43 | ktechmidas | maybe you just got hacked? Iunno, nothing to do with Debian though |
| 08:18.56 | dionysus69 | what now, digital ocean admin deleted my ssh config files or passphrase protected them? |
| 08:19.21 | dionysus69 | how can I get hacked, I have password authentication disabled on vps |
| 08:19.27 | nix-7 | lol |
| 08:19.36 | dionysus69 | only through rsa |
| 08:19.39 | ktechmidas | dionysus69: maybe, maybe you got hacked, maybe you're running injected binaries, maybe someone got in through another service you're running |
| 08:19.58 | ktechmidas | honestly if you think that's the case and you're worried hire a security professional for $$$$ |
| 08:19.59 | dionysus69 | I have nothing else running, just nginx and ssh pretty much |
| 08:20.00 | JustASlacker | maybe your keys were weak? https://it.slashdot.org/story/17/10/16/1736252/millions-of-high-security-crypto-keys-crippled-by-newly-discovered-flaw |
| 08:21.05 | dionysus69 | even if they discover private key they dont know the username with whom they can login |
| 08:21.10 | jelly | JustASlacker: it's very hard to generate keys inside a physical rsa card, just to get it out of there and use for ssh |
| 08:21.10 | dionysus69 | root ssh login is also disabled |
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| 08:21.37 | ktechmidas | dionysus69: then hire a security professional... it's not our job to look through your personal VPS |
| 08:21.48 | ktechmidas | or come back with a zero-day confirmed bug |
| 08:21.52 | ktechmidas | then we'll all panic |
| 08:21.54 | ktechmidas | yeah? |
| 08:21.59 | dionysus69 | just wanted to hear about potential explanations |
| 08:22.03 | fred_tv | simple: wrong channel... ;-(((( |
| 08:22.18 | dionysus69 | because what I have observed is not looking like a hack + is very weird |
| 08:22.18 | jelly | dionysus69: do you have backups of these systems? |
| 08:22.20 | JustASlacker | well, right now, pebkac sounds reasonable |
| 08:22.29 | dionysus69 | jelly: yes |
| 08:22.52 | jelly | dionysus69: can you pinpoint when a change happened, and on which files precisely? |
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| 08:23.30 | dionysus69 | on one vps id_rsa got passphrase protected, I use capistrano and it uses ssh key without passphrase + I never passphrase protected any ssh id_rsa files |
| 08:23.54 | jelly | what is capistrano? |
| 08:23.54 | dionysus69 | in another case known_hosts id_rsa and id_rsa.pub just vanished |
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| 08:24.20 | dionysus69 | capistrano is a ruby app deployment tool, it uses ssh key to pull github repo for example |
| 08:24.34 | ktechmidas | (https://github.com/capistrano/capistrano) |
| 08:24.38 | dionysus69 | but to do so it needs its own id_rsa to authenticate on github |
| 08:24.40 | jelly | so... an automation tool? |
| 08:24.44 | dionysus69 | ye |
| 08:24.53 | nix-7 | i'd be looking at that |
| 08:25.06 | jelly | dionysus69: can you pinpoint the time a change happened, and on which files precisely? |
| 08:25.14 | dionysus69 | ye but capistrano doesnt passphrase protect ssh files nor does it delete them |
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| 08:25.15 | jelly | using your daily backups |
| 08:25.25 | dionysus69 | it happened couple days ago |
| 08:25.49 | jelly | were you doing anything with your automation tool at that time? |
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| 08:25.54 | dionysus69 | if I were able to deploy apps a week ago, yesterday I tried and it gave me authentication problem, i tried manually and asked me for passphrase on id_rsa |
| 08:26.14 | dionysus69 | not doing daily backups just digitalocean weekly backups |
| 08:26.17 | jelly | dionysus69: do you have backups between "a week ago" and "yesterday"? |
| 08:26.40 | jelly | alright, so you have a 6-7 day time span |
| 08:26.42 | ktechmidas | dionysus69: why did you name it id_rsa? Anything else that generates a key probably overwrote your private key |
| 08:26.52 | dionysus69 | I dont know, if I will make a snapshot right now and try to load a backup, see what happens |
| 08:27.10 | ktechmidas | or your public key |
| 08:27.14 | jelly | dionysus69: are the timestamps on affected files changed? |
| 08:27.22 | dionysus69 | i only ever created ssh id_rsa files |
| 08:27.43 | dionysus69 | there's only authorized keys file left |
| 08:27.56 | dionysus69 | and latest change is on october 15, which makes it me, sounds reasonable |
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| 08:28.10 | ktechmidas | okay... so your local computer obviously has id_rsa (a private key) |
| 08:28.15 | ktechmidas | when did *that* last change? |
| 08:28.26 | dionysus69 | well nothing strange happened on my local pc |
| 08:28.42 | ktechmidas | my point is anything that generates a new key will probably use id_rsa as a default name |
| 08:28.46 | ktechmidas | and overwrite it |
| 08:28.55 | dionysus69 | same, in october, sounds reasonable |
| 08:29.08 | dionysus69 | in ~/.ssh dir? |
| 08:29.15 | jelly | dionysus69: do you keep a history file on the affected system? |
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| 08:29.40 | dionysus69 | and if it overwrote it, then there should be a new file, my problem is that it is actually deleted, and hacker wouldnt really have benefited from just deleting those files |
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| 08:30.09 | dionysus69 | no I dont but how do I do that, I would implement it so next time I can narrow down more, if it ever happens again |
| 08:30.14 | jelly | wait, is it deleted, or is it passphrase protected. |
| 08:30.24 | dionysus69 | two vps s |
| 08:30.33 | dionysus69 | on second one it's deleted |
| 08:30.45 | dionysus69 | first one I already overwrote a new one on it so I cant check the date anymore |
| 08:30.54 | ktechmidas | so you're trying to SSH to *two* vps's |
| 08:30.58 | ktechmidas | from your local computer |
| 08:31.05 | ktechmidas | with the same key or different keys? |
| 08:31.09 | jelly | honestly it sounds like a pebcak |
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| 08:31.19 | nix-7 | =) |
| 08:31.22 | ktechmidas | ^ |
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| 08:32.29 | jelly | dionysus69: if you have atop or acct with process accounting enabled, it might show unusual commands were ran. |
| 08:32.30 | dionysus69 | two different vps es yes, with the same key I have on my local pc |
| 08:32.49 | dionysus69 | I have bash history :D |
| 08:33.02 | jelly | does bash history keep timestamps? |
| 08:33.51 | dionysus69 | no but nothing sketchy anyway |
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| 08:34.02 | dionysus69 | there are no commands that would touch .ssh dir at all |
| 08:34.49 | dionysus69 | ok I will report back if I find anything weird again |
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| 08:35.05 | dionysus69 | I dont have enough info atm |
| 08:35.05 | jelly | eh, restore a backup, compare to see if anything else was deleted on the system that got files deleted |
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| 08:35.43 | jelly | set up logging in your automation solution if you don't have it already |
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| 08:35.52 | jelly | set up process accounting |
| 08:35.56 | Chhaipov | help |
| 08:36.01 | jelly | !ask |
| 08:36.01 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 08:43.03 | dionysus69 | jelly new find |
| 08:43.10 | dionysus69 | Saving key "/home/user/.ssh/id_rsa" failed: Permission denied |
| 08:43.15 | dionysus69 | when i tried to ssh-keygen |
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| 08:44.03 | JustASlacker | and why? |
| 08:44.04 | dionysus69 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 15 12:37 .ssh |
| 08:44.22 | dionysus69 | .ssh is owned by root?!?! |
| 08:44.37 | jelly | dionysus69: so you, or someone else, did stuff as root, with HOME set to your own user |
| 08:44.49 | dionysus69 | yes |
| 08:44.49 | jelly | probably on Oct 15 |
| 08:45.03 | JustASlacker | nods |
| 08:45.04 | jelly | probably using sudo incorrectly |
| 08:45.28 | dionysus69 | dunno, I remember generating the key as I usually do |
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| 08:45.40 | JustASlacker | I suspect gremlins |
| 08:45.42 | dionysus69 | I highly doubt I would use sudo but whatever, ok I ll fix it atm and see what happens later |
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| 08:50.42 | nix-7 | when did root last login? |
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| 08:58.36 | dionysus69 | root login via ssh is disabled |
| 08:59.00 | dionysus69 | so is password authentication, is also disabled |
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| 10:01.29 | petn-randall | braingain: It was removed in the stretch release cycle. Details are here: https://packages.qa.debian.org/r/redhat-cluster/news/20160331T100325Z.html |
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| 10:02.31 | petn-randall | Or rather #607912 |
| 10:02.32 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/607912 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: redhat-cluster -- ROM; obsolete»; severity: normal; opened: 2010-12-24; last modified: 2016-04-29. |
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| 10:08.43 | braingain | petn-randall: thank you sir |
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| 11:02.33 | ychaouche | Hello #debian |
| 11:02.39 | Druid | hello |
| 11:02.54 | ychaouche | I put a symlink of my script in /etc/cron.hourly but it seems it didn't get called, also nothing in syslog |
| 11:03.09 | ychaouche | Do I have to put the file there ? (and not only link to it ?) |
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| 11:11.03 | rgr | Have to move one of my machines from stable to Buster. Gstreamer issues. No surprise there but if anyone here can help please do. https://gist.github.com/rileyrg/8357f94f92f0d9ce9395f5684ccbd72c |
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| 11:12.16 | themill | ychaouche: what's the name of the script? there are restrictions on what is called (see run-parts(8)) |
| 11:12.45 | themill | (I assume you've double checked that cron is installed and running) |
| 11:13.21 | ychaouche | the name of the script is whachyadoin |
| 11:13.29 | ychaouche | wachyadoin* |
| 11:14.03 | ychaouche | cron is running according to service cron status |
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| 11:17.23 | ychaouche | ychaouche@ychaouche-PC 12:16:56 ~/SCRIPTS $ run-parts --test /etc/cron.hourly/ |
| 11:17.24 | ychaouche | /etc/cron.hourly//wachyadoin |
| 11:17.25 | ychaouche | ychaouche@ychaouche-PC 12:17:13 ~/SCRIPTS $ |
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| 11:17.50 | ychaouche | Does that mean that my script should have been run ? |
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| 11:18.28 | ychaouche | also, would graphical applications launch normally ? |
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| 11:21.21 | ychaouche | when I do run-parts /etc/cron.hourly/ my script is run correctly (and the GUI is shown) |
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| 11:28.36 | petn-randall | ychaouche: No, graphical applications won't run, because there is no X server attached to the services. Also many environment variables that your shell has are not set, most notably $PATH. This means that you always have to use the full path to executables in scripts. |
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| 11:29.19 | texstex | hallo |
| 11:29.23 | texstex | list |
| 11:29.33 | texstex | !list |
| 11:29.33 | dpkg | texstex: È possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-9.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
| 11:29.47 | petn-randall | hi texstex, do you have a Debian support question? |
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| 11:30.18 | babilen | It's amazing they that are *still* coming |
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| 11:31.24 | NuxRo | Hi, our pxe installer fails with newly added Stretch. I'm getting a "net-retriever error main/debian-installer/binary-amd64/Packages.xz not found in /tmp/net-retriever" |
| 11:31.28 | NuxRo | has anyone seen that before? |
| 11:32.00 | nix64bit | whats this usb vulnerability i read about? |
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| 11:34.14 | petn-randall | nix64bit: Our crystal ball is in the shops for repair, you have to be a bit more specific. |
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| 11:35.24 | nix64bit | https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/linux-has-a-usb-driver-security-problem/ |
| 11:35.48 | nix64bit | might not be the best article but the first i found |
| 11:36.52 | petn-randall | !tracker of doom |
| 11:36.52 | dpkg | The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/ . Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan> http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ |
| 11:37.04 | petn-randall | nix64bit: You can use this ^^^ to look up the CVEs. |
| 11:37.09 | babilen | nix64bit: Just check the CVEs -- http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2017/11/06/8 → http://security-tracker.debian.org/ |
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| 11:38.37 | nix64bit | ah ok |
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| 11:39.52 | petn-randall | nix64bit: All in all not so critical exploits IMO. You have to have physical access to the machines to exploit them, and in that case you already have many more options. |
| 11:41.06 | nix64bit | i feel the same, servers would have usb disabled as i remember |
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| 11:41.44 | nix64bit | you could steal the whole box if you had access and was so inclined |
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| 11:43.23 | KjetilK | Since I have now installed apt-cacher-ng, I'd like to limit the size of /var/cache/apt/archives down to a bare minimum |
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| 11:44.03 | KjetilK | Googling around, I find APT::Periodic::MaxSize and similar, but I can't find any canonical documentation for it |
| 11:44.09 | KjetilK | how do we do that these days? |
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| 11:53.23 | nix64bit | debsecan --suite sid --format detail | grep usb |
| 11:53.29 | nix64bit | :) |
| 11:54.10 | KjetilK | finds /usr/lib/apt/apt.systemd.daily |
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| 12:19.14 | abrotman | dpkg: flw |
| 12:19.15 | dpkg | <Essobi> How's clustering in pgres these days? <dpkg> Essobi: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=postgres+clustering <Essobi> FUCK JOOOO <Essobi> I was asking for opinion of peers whom I would consider being knowledgable, not some tards on google. |
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| 12:24.33 | claudio | Hello :) |
| 12:24.39 | claudio | I have a small problem to install |
| 12:24.48 | claudio | team speak both version 32/64 bit |
| 12:24.51 | claudio | on my debian |
| 12:24.56 | claudio | Who have some time for help me ? :) |
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| 12:37.36 | rgr | how to join #debian-next? Saying its invite only. |
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| 12:37.53 | FinalX | rgr: different irc network |
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| 12:38.03 | rgr | oh god. thanks. |
| 12:38.11 | FinalX | rgr: it's on irc.oftc.net :) |
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| 12:40.29 | rgr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:42.00 | themill | rgr: don't use crap from dmo |
| 12:42.38 | themill | (remove the packages from that repo and then try again) |
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| 12:44.19 | rgr | oh crikey yes. thanks. |
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| 13:03.44 | ychaouche | petn-randall: "there is no X server attached to the services." Can you explain that a bit more ? |
| 13:04.12 | ychaouche | I thought when X is up anything could communicate with it. |
| 13:04.18 | ychaouche | was* up |
| 13:04.53 | themill | no, that would allow anyone on the same machine to sniff passwords, control windows etc |
| 13:04.56 | achu | is the documentation for the debian ISO/CD/DVD provided somewhere - specifically the structure of the CD and how the various scripts are invoked (just to get some idea of how it works) |
| 13:05.25 | ychaouche | is there a system of sessions of some sort ? |
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| 13:06.57 | ychaouche | inspects .xsession-errors for the first time in 15+ years. |
| 13:07.05 | achu | ah there's a manual in doc/ which has an 'how the installer works' |
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| 13:32.09 | hyper_ch | hmm, I'm missing the zfs-dkms module from the debian mirrors.... I did add contrib to the sources list but seems nobody carries that |
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| 13:33.40 | petn-randall | ,v zfs-dkms |
| 13:33.41 | judd | Package: zfs-dkms on amd64 -- jessie-backports/contrib: 0.6.5.9-2~bpo8+1; stretch/contrib: 0.6.5.9-5; jessie-backports-sloppy/contrib: 0.6.5.11-1~bpo8+1; stretch-backports/contrib: 0.6.5.11-1~bpo9+1; buster/contrib: 0.6.5.11-1; sid/contrib: 0.7.3-1 |
| 13:34.04 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: You ran 'apt update' after updating the sources.list? |
| 13:34.12 | hyper_ch | petn-randall: yes |
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| 13:34.14 | hyper_ch | https://packages.debian.org/stretch/zfs-dkms |
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| 13:34.54 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 13:34.55 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 13:35.18 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: Are you running jessie or stretch? |
| 13:35.34 | hyper_ch | petn-randall: stretch live cd |
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| 13:35.42 | hyper_ch | chrooted env |
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| 13:36.40 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: Can you then provide all the details of the !bat factoid above? |
| 13:36.49 | hyper_ch | petn-randall: I can... |
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| 13:38.38 | hyper_ch | petn-randall: https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/raw/885b3287 |
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| 13:40.10 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: There's a typo in your sources.list, "conrib". I'm surprised that it doesn't show up in your 'apt update' run, though. |
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| 13:40.53 | hyper_ch | lol :) stupid me :) |
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| 13:41.01 | hyper_ch | now it's all fine |
| 13:41.17 | hyper_ch | I changed mirrors from default debian to switzerland to germany to nl... in the hope one works |
| 13:41.23 | hyper_ch | but didn't notice that typo |
| 13:41.31 | hyper_ch | thx |
| 13:42.02 | hyper_ch | (good that I also pasted the sources list) |
| 13:42.18 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: You should have gotten an error on 'apt update', though. I wonder why you didn't. |
| 13:42.30 | hyper_ch | could be because of chroot? |
| 13:42.47 | hyper_ch | I doubt it but that's the only explanation I have currently |
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| 13:49.10 | hyper_ch | petn-randall: oh dammit :) if root has no password set, can I just edit boot options to single user? |
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| 13:54.17 | hyper_ch | well, back to live iso :) |
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| 13:55.00 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: Setting boot options is a grub thing, that's unrelated to any passwords on the system. |
| 13:55.18 | hyper_ch | I thought with recovery mode I could maybe login passwordless |
| 13:55.34 | hyper_ch | anyway, back on live cd, fetching zfs-dkms and then chrooting again |
| 13:55.35 | petn-randall | !frp |
| 13:55.35 | dpkg | For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
| 13:55.38 | Psyb3rN4ut | petn-randall: what about encrypted luks volumes? |
| 13:55.46 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: Use this ^^^ to set a root password. |
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| 13:56.07 | petn-randall | Psyb3rN4ut: What about them? |
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| 13:56.14 | hyper_ch | frp? f**** root password? |
| 13:56.47 | Psyb3rN4ut | does the boot loader not need the keys/pass to decrypt/mount them? |
| 13:56.54 | Psyb3rN4ut | petn-randall: ^^ |
| 13:57.56 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: forgot (my) root password. |
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| 13:58.18 | hyper_ch | ah |
| 13:58.20 | Psyb3rN4ut | petn-randall: just chroot in and change it |
| 13:58.22 | petn-randall | Psyb3rN4ut: Sure. |
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| 14:00.24 | hyper_ch | not quite sure where to add the init=/bin/sh end of the line starting with linux or end of the whole grub entry? |
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| 14:01.44 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: The one starting with "linux". |
| 14:02.01 | Psyb3rN4ut | hyper_ch: the grub config is well commented...it does not say? |
| 14:02.14 | hyper_ch | well, I'll see in a sec if it works |
| 14:02.35 | hyper_ch | gives petn-randall a cookie |
| 14:03.12 | Psyb3rN4ut | hyper_ch: end of linux line |
| 14:03.26 | petn-randall | noms the cookie. |
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| 14:06.45 | hyper_ch | when did apt-get change to apt? |
| 14:06.54 | nzambe | hello, i am using raspbian stretch on raspberry pi 3 and using dpkg or apt-get starting yesterday i get the error in the attached pastes. I am using the unifi controller at the moment as it got beyond installing or uninstalling it. it seems to be related to perl but i am not sure. Can someone give me any pointers on what's happening here. Here are |
| 14:06.54 | nzambe | the errors: https://pastebin.com/zXhwnuRC and https://pastebin.com/4LSDx1uR |
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| 14:07.37 | annadane | hyper_ch, apt-get didn't "change" to apt. apt-get is a frontend for apt |
| 14:07.44 | RedSoxFan07 | hyper_ch: I think a few years ago. I'm fairly new to Linux, but I often type apt-get because I think it's more fun. |
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| 14:09.04 | hyper_ch | been using debian for a loooong time and just so used to apt-get |
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| 14:33.10 | Nitrogen1 | Greetings. I'm trying to add something to the end of every line of a text file. I can execute any of those commands in multiple terminals with no issue, but the file remains unchanged. Why is that? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/23078897/how-to-add-text-at-the-end-of-each-line-in-unix |
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| 14:37.31 | ntz3615 | Nitrogen1: add -i option (inline replace) to the sed command |
| 14:38.49 | Nitrogen1 | ntz3615 Ahhh, that did it. Many thanks! |
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| 14:40.03 | ntz3615 | Nitrogen1: without -i, the output goes to stdout |
| 14:40.22 | Nitrogen1 | What is that? :x |
| 14:40.39 | annadane | a magical land where the pixies and elves live and coexist in harmony |
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| 14:40.45 | ntz3615 | standard output file descriptor |
| 14:41.07 | ntz3615 | annadane: :) |
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| 14:41.53 | intore | hi all, I need to see on my display the debug of ssh, in order to check others ssh connection on my pc |
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| 14:44.13 | ntz3615 | intore: you probably mean sshd, not ssh. sshd usually logs to /var/log/auth.log |
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| 14:45.40 | intore | yes ntz3615, right. is sshd. but I need to see it on my display not in a output file |
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| 14:46.45 | intore | ntz3615: I have an external agent that connects on my pc and I want to see all the deebug information |
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| 14:50.00 | Lyberta | where does reportbug saves the reports locally? |
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| 14:51.58 | petn-randall | Lyberta: AFAIR it doesn't save any reports locally. |
| 14:52.23 | Lyberta | so how I do use it? |
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| 14:56.14 | dTal | intore: sorry, what's wrong with the log file? |
| 14:57.43 | petn-randall | Lyberta: You run 'reportbug', use the menus, and it'll file a bug online. |
| 14:58.18 | intore | dTal: nothing wrong, I want to see live on screen |
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| 14:58.37 | dTal | intore: tail -f /var/log/auth.log |
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| 14:59.17 | Lyberta | petn-randall, it doesn't work for me, does it force using plain text password in configuration file? |
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| 14:59.48 | intore | dTal: ok thanks |
| 14:59.55 | dTal | you're very welcome |
| 15:00.17 | dTal | now you can monitor *any* logfile live! |
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| 15:07.37 | woshty | Are there mozilla dev channels on freenode? |
| 15:07.49 | ntz3615 | intore: still you won't see any debug messages from sshd, only regular log. if you *really* want debug messages you have to enable them in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. |
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| 15:08.30 | babilen | woshty: Ask alis, this has nothing to do with Debian |
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| 15:10.11 | intore | I'd like to see all the debug messages ntz3615 |
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| 15:11.24 | intore | ntz3615: but the way to see them is tail -f of the log, as told me dTal |
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| 15:28.28 | quenode | Hi for the gitlab runner docker executor I get something like "runner-fc354fe4-project-1-concurrent-0-postgres-0" for postgres image is this normal I specified in services in postgres:9.6 should I would be able to access internally by using postgres name. |
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| 15:29.03 | babilen | quenode: Are you aware that this is #debian ? |
| 15:29.18 | quenode | babilen: sorry ups |
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| 15:29.47 | babilen | np, just sounded like a question you had meant for another channel :) |
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| 15:30.04 | quenode | sorry yes it's :) |
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| 15:37.09 | spleen | Hello all, i would like to curl filippo url to determine if a server is vulnerable to the logjam attack |
| 15:37.16 | spleen | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.16 | spleen | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.16 | spleen | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.44 | spleen | the problem is i get the two possible value with grep. Have you an idea ? |
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| 15:40.15 | jelly | spleen: so save the output, then test for one output, or the other, or a third/empty value |
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| 15:47.38 | petn-randall | spleen: Install 'testssl.sh' and use that, it can report logjam and more more vulnerabilities. |
| 15:47.45 | petn-randall | s/more/many/ |
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| 15:49.48 | crcrcr | what's ./configure in debian? |
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| 15:51.07 | dTal | crcrcr: erm... |
| 15:51.11 | petn-randall | crcrcr: Can you provide some context? The question doesn't make much sense as is. |
| 15:51.11 | dTal | ./configure |
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| 15:52.05 | dTal | configure scripts are provided by the software you're trying to build, not the distro |
| 15:52.40 | dTal | hence why it starts with ./ - this means it is supposed to be in the current directory |
| 15:52.53 | crcrcr | ./configure && make |
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| 15:54.18 | dTal | yes, you usually type 'make' after ./configure - what is the problem you are having? |
| 15:54.46 | petn-randall | crcrcr: Are you trying to compile some software? Then it's exactly the same. |
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| 15:54.55 | ksk | also, if you ask such a question, maybe you dont want to compile software yourself ;) |
| 15:55.13 | crcrcr | why? |
| 15:55.17 | ksk | not bad to give it a try, but an other running in production. |
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| 15:55.58 | ksk | because it means a) you need to check for yourself for security alerts and then pull new sources (has upstream a patch? debian has a security-team) and then build the new version |
| 15:56.00 | crcrcr | anyway i don't have a configure folder |
| 15:56.10 | ksk | if not anything else it can mean much work. |
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| 15:56.14 | tremolo | Not folder, file. |
| 15:56.17 | petn-randall | crcrcr: There's seldomly need to compile software in Debian, many things are already packaged. |
| 15:56.27 | tremolo | If you don't have it, you're probably in the wrong directory. |
| 15:56.43 | crcrcr | i have a configure.ac file |
| 15:56.59 | petn-randall | crcrcr: "./configure" means "execute the file named configure in the current directory". It's not a folder. |
| 15:57.06 | dTal | oh dear |
| 15:57.11 | ksk | and b) I would assume if compiling is more then "git clone, configure, make, make install" then you could probably do things the wrong way, which could reside in bad things to happen |
| 15:57.25 | dTal | congratulations crcrcr, you get to use autotools |
| 15:57.35 | petn-randall | crcrcr: What are you trying to compile? |
| 15:57.51 | ksk | that surely depends on what you are compiling anyway, openssl vs mcabber or so ;) |
| 15:58.05 | Iridos | well, can you maybe ask the bloody question… i.e. one that describes what problem you have and not tipsy-foot around it |
| 15:58.16 | crcrcr | Usbhid-dump |
| 15:58.50 | Iridos | like, e.g. in !ask |
| 15:58.52 | Iridos | dpkg, ask |
| 15:58.53 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 15:59.13 | dTal | crcrcr: if you have configure.ac and not configure, you need to install the "autotools" package and run "autoconf" in the directory |
| 15:59.24 | dTal | this will give you a "configure" you can run |
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| 16:00.07 | ksk | did you follow instllation instructions at git? |
| 16:00.43 | dTal | however you should probably just "sudo apt install usbutils" |
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| 16:02.11 | dTal | ksk: in fairness the installation instruction on github are wrong, they say to run ./configure |
| 16:02.18 | dTal | which doesn't exist |
| 16:02.49 | dTal | but again, usbhid-dump is in usbutils so there's no particular need to build it |
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| 16:04.15 | crcrcr | thanks dTal |
| 16:04.31 | petn-randall | dTal beat me to it. |
| 16:04.57 | ksk | dTal: I just skimmed it, but there was something about "running ./bootstrap if you build from git" |
| 16:05.21 | dTal | ksk: oh, so it does |
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| 16:10.06 | crcrcr | I'm having errors though |
| 16:11.01 | crcrcr | configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables o.o |
| 16:12.13 | dTal | crcrcr: just install it from apt |
| 16:12.51 | crcrcr | it's not there :( |
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| 16:13.04 | dTal | for the third and last time, it's in usbutils |
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| 16:13.14 | dTal | crcrcr: ^ because you keep missing it |
| 16:13.15 | crcrcr | oh |
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| 16:14.34 | crcrcr | thanks again dTal |
| 16:14.51 | crcrcr | why you didn't stop me!!! |
| 16:15.00 | dTal | I tried |
| 16:15.01 | dTal | twice |
| 16:15.07 | dTal | you have a reading comprehension problem |
| 16:15.08 | crcrcr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:18.43 | ksk | haha |
| 16:19.19 | ksk | I was like typing a summary of what we learned from that, but deleted it as I was like "why paste the obvious" ;) |
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| 16:22.31 | kion | My boss copied a bunch of files into his laptop, now it is getting really slow, I think due to tracker, is there a way to disable the file indexing thing? what consequences will that have? |
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| 16:25.08 | RoyK | kion: rotating rust? |
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| 16:26.11 | frikinz_ | Hey. I haven't been multibooting for the last decade so I wouldn't mind some help. I have that debian with lvm PV using the full disk. After shrinking it to allow some space and start a windows cd installer, will my debian remain? |
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| 16:26.43 | Johann | kion: you must be talking about locate and updatedb? You can add ignored path in /etc/updatedb.conf (see prunepaths option) |
| 16:26.44 | frikinz_ | By the time, microsoft probably did a multiboot loader which will allow me to get back to debian to reinstall grub in the MBR right? |
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| 16:26.50 | Johann | kion: or delete the package |
| 16:26.55 | dTal | I'd be curious as to why you think it's that, and which DE you're running as they sometimes have their own file indexers. |
| 16:27.21 | dTal | StackOverflow says an easy way to disable updatedb.mlocate is to do chmod -x /etc/cron.daily/mlocate |
| 16:27.41 | dTal | Which has the advantag of being trivially reversible. |
| 16:28.47 | frikinz_ | If it's mlocate the culprit. Which I doubt. |
| 16:30.04 | dTal | Well, I did preface with exactly that. |
| 16:32.21 | tremolo | frikinz_: I don't think Windows installers have gotten any friendlier. I set aside a disk for each and make sure only the Windows disk is plugged in while installing. |
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| 16:33.04 | boxrick | When using bonding with active-backup and I don't define bond-primary what determines the primary? |
| 16:33.11 | boxrick | Is it simply alphabetical order? |
| 16:34.00 | jelly | frikinz_: if you system boots using legacy BIOS/MBR boot, you'll probably want to reinstall grub afterwards. if it's UEFI boot, it's a lot simpler as windows will just set itself as default uefi boot option, and you can easily change back to debian's grub in uefi config |
| 16:34.01 | frikinz_ | tremolo: lol I see. But I only have one fast ssd disk (windows 8 on its mechanical is just horrible) |
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| 16:35.29 | jelly | that's one instance where uefi makes things easier |
| 16:35.59 | frikinz_ | ok. I have no clue. Last time I had real problems to dual boot with UEFI and secure boot. |
| 16:36.28 | frikinz_ | backup time... :( |
| 16:36.56 | jelly | secure boot probably still has to be disabled with debian |
| 16:37.05 | jelly | but uefi boot works |
| 16:37.18 | tremolo | Even if Windows does nuke the MBR and you were trying to use it, reinstalling GRUB isn't all that hard. |
| 16:37.48 | frikinz_ | funny how many problems I had on this vanilla windows. one specific one (module installer truster whatever) with a million google questions and useless answers and I just joined ##windows and people ask the same. |
| 16:38.15 | frikinz_ | tremolo: yeah another live something to put on an usb stick |
| 16:38.41 | frikinz_ | jelly: that's it, I never was completly able to remove secureboot |
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| 17:05.39 | kion | Johann, what package would it be? |
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| 17:14.35 | dadinn | hi all |
| 17:14.53 | dadinn | I would like to ask for some help configuring GRUB |
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| 17:15.37 | dadinn | I am doing manual install with debootstrap on a LUKS+LVM setup |
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| 17:18.57 | dadinn | in my /etc/defaults/grub I have GRUB_CRYPTODISK_ENABLE=y and GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES="lvm cryptodisk" parameters, and I have fstab and crypttab entries configured appropriately... |
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| 17:19.29 | dadinn | ... yet after instalation and reboot, GRUB falls back to its prompt upon boot |
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| 17:27.58 | Druid | how do I forward internal port 111 to external port 222? |
| 17:28.03 | Druid | using command-line |
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| 17:29.21 | petn-randall | Druid: You could use ssh for port forwarding (see "man ssh", -L and -R options), but hard to say without details. |
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| 17:36.29 | flor1an | gdday |
| 17:36.45 | flor1an | can someone enlighten me why debian9 does not seem to update-alternatives for heirloom-mailx while deb8 did? |
| 17:36.57 | flor1an | (of course i can symlink by hand i just wonder where the automatism went) |
| 17:38.06 | Druid | petn-randall: I do use a reverse ssh tunnel to connect to my RPi through my VPS |
| 17:38.15 | Druid | but its only connectable to the vps |
| 17:38.30 | Druid | I have to login into the vps and then ssh into pi@localhost:port |
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| 17:45.38 | Johann | kion: locate |
| 17:45.51 | Johann | i suppose |
| 17:46.35 | kion | Johann, I belive locate is a file search program, unrelated to the gnome files, indexing/db |
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| 17:47.46 | Johann | well it does index, i assumed you talked about that, I don't know about gnom's |
| 17:47.48 | Johann | gnome's* |
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| 18:29.02 | cpn_zoom | is it possible to run android apps in a container on a standard debian kernel, with some suitable image? |
| 18:29.24 | dTal | yes |
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| 18:29.38 | hatp | Is Debian better than Arch? |
| 18:29.48 | greycat | That's an opinion. |
| 18:29.51 | dTal | Depends what you need. |
| 18:30.09 | hatp | I need something that always works |
| 18:30.13 | greycat | They focus on different things, so you should choose which one suits your needs. |
| 18:30.15 | dTal | Then yes. |
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| 18:30.43 | dTal | For a given value of "works". |
| 18:30.54 | mspo | that archwiki though |
| 18:31.40 | greycat | Yes, Arch's wiki is very much better than ours right now. |
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| 18:32.29 | dTal | You really *need* that wiki on Arch though, it's basically the manual |
| 18:32.31 | kion | I have an older computer running XFCE, how can I install LXDE? |
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| 18:33.59 | LioneLL | sudo apt-get install lxde |
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| 18:37.49 | kion | LioneLL, Thanks |
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| 18:38.11 | LioneLL | :) |
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| 18:39.42 | valex | do you recommend Debian testing for a common user? |
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| 18:40.09 | greycat | no |
| 18:40.31 | valex | why? |
| 18:40.50 | greycat | Stable is reliable and is what most people should be using. |
| 18:41.06 | greycat | Testing is for finding the bugs in the next release. |
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| 18:43.33 | mspo | stretch + backports |
| 18:43.52 | dTal | testing: all the reliability of unstable and all the bleeding-edge fun of stable :p |
| 18:44.10 | n4dir | you sure would want to run testing in an emulator or a test box for a while (if you plan to run it at all, duh). With testing you might run into problems which are pretty timeconsuming (or even the need to recover from a backup, or reinstall, if none is present) |
| 18:44.53 | n4dir | for me it allways worked fine. |
| 18:45.07 | n4dir | well: i spend plenty of time on the PC ... |
| 18:45.13 | cpn_zoom | does testing get security upgrades as reliably as stable? |
| 18:45.29 | greycat | absolutely not |
| 18:45.41 | cpn_zoom | that would be the major reason for not using it... |
| 18:45.45 | greycat | testing is the absolute worst branch for security updates |
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| 18:47.10 | valex | ok, thank you! |
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| 18:49.21 | teraflops | valex: you have to consider pro and cons. stable is fine and debian security team is awesome. if you need newer versions you can use backports if sw you want is already backported. |
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| 18:51.37 | valex | oh, that's interesting, thank you so much! |
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| 18:53.58 | cpn_zoom | (but backports don't get much in the way of security upgrades either) |
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| 18:55.04 | valex | so? |
| 18:55.43 | teraflops | cpn_zoom: that's still better than running testing |
| 18:55.58 | teraflops | (regarding security upgrades) |
| 18:56.12 | teraflops | s/updates |
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| 19:01.39 | Sveta | how do i purge a package which is already removed? |
| 19:01.48 | greycat | Sveta: dpkg --purge pkgname |
| 19:02.16 | Sveta | thanks! |
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| 19:03.48 | preview | is there an easy way to reinstall a package and all dependencies? |
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| 19:03.54 | preview | having some weirdness with kde stuff |
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| 19:04.44 | annadane | it depends on whether your problem can be solved without reinstalling packages |
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| 19:07.40 | preview | annadane: yeah I'd like to solve it without, but I don't know how to proceed, it's a symbol lookup error with amarok |
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| 19:08.09 | qman__ | be aware that this will remove all custom configuration for all said packages, and could potentially leave you in a broken state if you're not careful: apt-get purge x; apt-get autoremove --purge; apt-get install x |
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| 19:14.34 | greycat | plays with "apt-cache depends --recurse --installed bash" but does not understand what it's saying |
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| 19:17.41 | annadane | in apt changelogs, what do the numbers and letters in brackets mean? ie [d42572d] New upstream version 3.9.0 |
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| 19:20.00 | greycat | sounds like a git commit ID or equivalent from some other source control system |
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| 19:20.06 | BillKGR | annadane, it could actually be something similar to git's change ID |
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| 20:15.01 | mrm | When was pepperflashplugin-nonfree removed from stretch? |
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| 20:19.48 | annadane | mrm, seems to be https://tracker.debian.org/news/832321 |
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| 20:25.27 | msi-Dragon_ | Hello |
| 20:26.11 | msi-Dragon_ | Trying to make a unrealircd only with my pc on debian, but i m lost |
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| 20:35.09 | annadane | msi-Dragon_, this is for arch but the arch wiki tends to be a good source of information anyway, just read in between the lines https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/UnrealIRCd |
| 20:35.42 | annadane | the package doesn't appear to be in debian but you can build from source |
| 20:36.04 | annadane | see https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Some_safer_ways_to_install_software_not_available_in_Debian_Stable |
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| 20:42.28 | uxfi | Hi all. I'm ahving seruous trouble with with PHP on my syste. I'm tryign to set up wordpress and for soem reason when I make a info.php file I see 5.6 whislt Stretch has 7... what am I doign wrong? |
| 20:42.34 | uxfi | how do I change it from saying 5.6 to 7? |
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| 20:43.06 | msi-Dragon_ | thx |
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| 20:43.18 | msi-Dragon_ | :) |
| 20:43.29 | uxfi | anyone? |
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| 20:44.33 | jolt | uxfi: I'm no expert, but I think you can have both installed |
| 20:44.54 | mpalumbo | uxfi: are you trying to set php7 as the default php interprter? |
| 20:45.06 | jolt | uxfi: so use dpkg -l to see which php modules you have installed with 5.6 and then install the 7.0 ones, and then remove 5.6 |
| 20:45.16 | jolt | mpalumbo: probably |
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| 20:45.43 | uxfi | yes mpalumbo |
| 20:45.59 | uxfi | I'm jsut tryign to get freaking WP to work heh |
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| 20:46.57 | jhutchins_wk | ,v php |
| 20:46.58 | judd | Package: php on amd64 -- stretch: 1:7.0+49; buster: 1:7.0+54; sid: 1:7.0+54 |
| 20:47.27 | jhutchins_wk | uxfi: Was this server upgraded from an earlier release? |
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| 20:47.29 | greycat | if you're using php*-fpm, install the new package named "php-fpm" in stretch; if you're using apache module thingies, figure out the package name and install that |
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| 20:52.22 | vitx | Hello, why doesn't chromium-widevine enable widevine in chromium ? |
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| 20:58.22 | jhutchins_wk | ,v vhtomium-widevine |
| 20:58.23 | judd | No package named 'vhtomium-widevine' was found in amd64. |
| 20:58.33 | jhutchins_wk | ,v chromium-widevine |
| 20:58.34 | judd | Package: chromium-widevine on amd64 -- stretch/contrib: 61.0.3163.100-1~deb9u1; buster/contrib: 61.0.3163.100-2; stretch-security/contrib: 62.0.3202.75-1~deb9u1; sid/contrib: 62.0.3202.89-1 |
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| 20:59.14 | Sveta | uxfi: did you get it to work? what debian version? what php versions do you have installed? |
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| 20:59.17 | jhutchins_wk | vitx: Did you install the Debian package or download it directly? |
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| 21:00.13 | uxfi | Sveta; working on it |
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| 21:01.54 | vitx | hutchins_wk: I Installed it |
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| 21:05.15 | jhutchins_wk | vitx: Look for a readme file in /usr/share/doc/chromium-widevine - you may need to enable something. |
| 21:05.29 | uxfi | arghh |
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| 21:06.31 | vitx | hutchins_wk: I don't see a readme there |
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| 21:09.10 | jhutchins_wk | Interesting. Google says there's no Linux plugin, and doesn't mention W10. |
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| 21:11.55 | jhutchins_wk | vitx: Unfortunately, with DRM software the default is SUPPOSED to not work. |
| 21:12.08 | jhutchins_wk | Makes it hard to troubleshoot. |
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| 21:12.41 | vitx | Firefox has that included... |
| 21:12.47 | teraflops | vitx: just wondering if you get any errors |
| 21:13.26 | teraflops | and where are trying to make use it |
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| 21:14.14 | teraflops | are you sure ff from debian repos can play drm content? |
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| 21:14.47 | mspo | anyone using sssd? |
| 21:15.20 | phogg | mspo: I'm sure someone is. Why do you ask? |
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| 21:16.56 | mspo | phogg: trying to figure out if i should migrate to it from nslcd/ldap.conf/pam |
| 21:17.16 | jhutchins_wk | mspo: Yes, on RHEL with two different third-party AD components. |
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| 21:18.04 | mspo | jhutchins_wk: I'm hitting AD but don't want to bother with all of the realm join stuff |
| 21:18.18 | mspo | jhutchins_wk: currently working fine (for us) using ldaps against AD |
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| 21:28.37 | Atomic_jK_Mu | Hi, I am on debian testing, since yesterday my machine is frozen at gdm login, after a major apt-get upgrade. I have access to it at all, no terminals, nothing, network is not coming up so I.can not ssh into machine either. is there some known new bug? |
| 21:29.05 | annadane | !debian-next |
| 21:29.05 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 21:29.38 | greycat | if you suspect gdm is causing the lockup, try telling grub to tell systemd to boot only into multi-user.target instead of graphical.target |
| 21:29.39 | Atomic_jK_Mu | Thanks! |
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| 21:39.39 | nast | how do you organize blocking ip blacklists with iptables? |
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| 21:40.33 | jhutchins_wk | !iptables |
| 21:40.33 | dpkg | [iptables] The user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter. Ask me about <netfilter docs>. For a proper Debian-way of setting up iptables, see http://wiki.debian.org/iptables or ask me about <iptables-restore>. http://netfilter.org/ #netfilter on irc.freenode.net. See also <ferm>, <lartc>, <masq>, <ulogd>. |
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| 21:41.57 | nast | is there any package to automate this? |
| 21:42.10 | greycat | to automate what? |
| 21:42.43 | nast | I mean getting published blacklist into ipset |
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| 21:48.37 | nast | what I mean is https://github.com/trick77/ipset-blacklist, but if there's something in official debian repo it would be much better |
| 21:49.16 | nast | so yeah, banning blacklisted IPs with ip-tables is what I'm asking about. |
| 21:50.19 | nast | except from fail2ban which is exellent. |
| 21:51.38 | jelly | does fail2ban not have ready actions for ipset? |
| 21:51.54 | jhutchins_wk | nast: It probably wouldn't be too hard to script, but there are a couple of firewall tools that can help manage the rules. |
| 21:52.11 | nast | and rate limiting with ufw, which is helpful to :-). Is there anything else I could do to sleep better? |
| 21:53.07 | jhutchins_wk | nast: run ssh on a different port, don't allow root login, use selinux... There are plenty of good docs on hardening a Linux server. |
| 21:53.55 | nast | jelly: fail2ban does excellent job in banning IPs which are too often in logs. But takes no action on IPs reported elsewhere, like spamhaus, or badip |
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| 21:55.35 | nast | jhutchins_wk: what I have found is trick77 script, I yet have to try it. I didn't look out much for it, but I have the idea there is an official way to tune iptables with blocklists |
| 21:56.03 | RoyK | nast: the problem with distributed IPSes, is that they quite often are prone to DDoSes, so that - oops - you're locked out of your servers because someone forged a ton of bad packages |
| 21:56.13 | RoyK | or packets, even |
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| 21:57.47 | nast | RoyK: so you're telling IP sets are not to be trusted? |
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| 21:58.45 | RoyK | just saying that intrusion protection systems should be used careully. intrusion detection is ok, but automatic protection is sometimes dangerous |
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| 21:59.00 | RoyK | for the case of DoS |
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| 22:00.20 | RoyK | IPS as in intrusion protection system, IDS as in *detection* |
| 22:00.31 | nast | RoyK: oh, well. I don't run snort or anything else, beside ufw limit ssh and fail2ban. How would it be possible to lock myself out of server with blacklists? |
| 22:01.20 | greycat | someone blacklists you |
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| 22:05.13 | nast | oh,well. I thought adblocking public lists could be an analogy, but they won't get you locked out of ssh, even if your IP happen to be in the list. So what is real world protection from hackers trying to get into ssh? |
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| 22:05.43 | RoyK | nast: an iptables rule to limit burst traffic should do |
| 22:05.51 | RoyK | nast: or two factor logins |
| 22:06.27 | RoyK | nast: that is, simply disallowing password ssh logins or even requiring both key and password, and you should be pretty safe |
| 22:06.33 | nast | yes, I do it. ufw limist ssh works fine. Plus fail2ban. Plus sshd config that prohibits password logins. |
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| 22:07.11 | RoyK | add a 7-factor login procedure to that, and you should be a bit safer |
| 22:07.49 | nast | RoyK: :-) |
| 22:08.22 | RoyK | 7 is a magic number, remember, so something like username+password+key+fingerprint+retina scan+voice+random word from a book++++ |
| 22:08.27 | RoyK | should be quite safe |
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| 22:08.58 | RoyK | something like a server, turned off, in ten tons of concrete, at the bottom of the ocean is quite safe, albeit not very useful |
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| 22:09.17 | nast | RoyK: I guess I'm pretty much safe, but nowhere close to you :-) |
| 22:10.11 | RoyK | the only thing I've setup to be pretty paranoid, is an ssh jumphost to the holiest of the holiest, with user+pass+sshkey+denyhosts in paranoia mode |
| 22:10.17 | RoyK | and some ssh rules, of course |
| 22:10.31 | nast | so back to my question, I have looked through packages in official debian repo, but didn't find anything that uses blackisted IPs to populate ipset. |
| 22:11.12 | RoyK | denyhosts can be setup to use a central repo, but then, it's not actively maintained anymore |
| 22:11.30 | RoyK | so IIRC it was pulled from debian after jessie or thereabout |
| 22:11.42 | nast | I'll have a look at denyhosts, first hear about it. |
| 22:11.54 | nast | ah, so no more in repos |
| 22:11.56 | RoyK | I beleive the code is quite good |
| 22:12.02 | Brigo | nast, have you ever known about sshguard? |
| 22:12.07 | RoyK | so it should be possible to pick it up somehow |
| 22:12.18 | RoyK | Brigo: does that have distributed blacklists too? |
| 22:12.31 | RoyK | Brigo: last I tried it, I found it exceedingly paranoid |
| 22:12.56 | Brigo | RoyK, no, because it thinks is not the best of the ideas. |
| 22:13.10 | nast | Brigo: I guess sshguard is something that fail2ban took over, however I'm not quite sure, as I have used just fail2ban. |
| 22:13.16 | Brigo | it just blocks the ips for a while, and then unblock it. |
| 22:13.33 | RoyK | Brigo: fail2ban does the same |
| 22:13.39 | Brigo | nast, maybe you are right, i don't know either. |
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| 22:14.44 | RoyK | seems denyhosts hasn't been touched for quite a while https://sourceforge.net/projects/denyhosts/files/ |
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| 22:15.19 | RoyK | hm https://github.com/denyhosts/denyhosts |
| 22:15.24 | RoyK | seems active, somehow |
| 22:18.10 | nast | so if I understand it right, distributed blacklists aren't best idea to implement, is it something most people here agree? |
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| 22:24.35 | nast | there's also other option: set up a vpn and allow ssh connections solely on tun0 interface, which i'll implement on other system, which isnt debian and hasnt got awesome packages like ufw and fail2ban. |
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| 22:25.43 | jelly | nast: huh? Distributed blacklists are a great tool. |
| 22:26.00 | happygilmoregent | Anyone had issue with stretch 9.2.1 nvidia where it shows blinking cursor but ctrl+alt+fx shows console briefly and the goes back to a blinking? |
| 22:26.13 | jelly | just don't let them be the only tool to combat problematic traffic |
| 22:26.22 | happygilmoregent | Only if left idle |
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| 22:26.27 | nast | jelly: is there any package that uses blacklists to set up iptables and ipset? |
| 22:26.40 | happygilmoregent | Hard drive light solid |
| 22:26.58 | jelly | nast: no idea, what kind of blacklist sources are you talking about? |
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| 22:27.09 | jelly | rpz? rsync? |
| 22:27.21 | jelly | dns rbl? |
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| 22:28.54 | nast | jelly: emergingthreats, like here https://github.com/kravietz/blacklist-scripts |
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| 22:29.19 | happygilmoregent | Is there an issue with legacy nvidia and ttyx being unable to switch to? |
| 22:29.59 | Sveta | happygilmoregent: you would need to check debian's bug tracker for the package. |
| 22:30.15 | nast | jelly: but I'd like an official package from a repo |
| 22:30.17 | Sveta | happygilmoregent: which package provides the driver for you? |
| 22:30.26 | happygilmoregent | Ok |
| 22:30.41 | happygilmoregent | Nvidia-304xx-legacy |
| 22:32.02 | Sveta | happygilmoregent: what does `sudo dpkg -l *nvidia*legacy*` tell you? |
| 22:33.32 | jelly | nast: there probably isn't one for your specific requirements, maybe consider packaging those scripts yourself? |
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| 22:35.40 | nast | jelly: maybe yes, if they serve me well enough :-). Anyway, I'll try it out on other system. The one running debian is ok with fail2ban, I think |
| 22:36.32 | nast | jelly: from what I know, fail2ban doesn't use distributed lists, but publishes one |
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| 22:40.52 | happygilmoregent | I am not in front of my machine right now on a phone |
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| 22:45.19 | jhutchins | How do I set the editor for visudo? |
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| 22:47.20 | epsilon | dunno about visudo, but you can define default editor in bash with "export EDITOR=jed" to use jed for example |
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| 22:50.27 | jhutchins | epsilon: Looks like it's set with alternatives. |
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| 22:52.15 | metastable | "EDITOR=thing visudo" also works for a one-off. |
| 22:52.23 | jhutchins | There we go, got the syntax. update-alternatives --config editor |
| 22:52.38 | jhutchins | I DETETEST nano. |
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| 23:00.59 | uxfi | ok |
| 23:01.06 | uxfi | hw odo I amek sure I ahve all php7 essential packages isntalled? |
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| 23:03.13 | Sveta | for wordpress? |
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| 23:03.43 | Sveta | uxfi: install wordpress package, it has everything in the dependencies |
| 23:04.11 | uxfi_ | ok |
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| 23:34.38 | AW- | hey |
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| 23:38.30 | vitx | Debian package maintainers should look into making widevine work, other distros manage to get it work fine |
| 23:38.48 | vitx | Not saying Debian package maintainers are not working hard or anything |
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| 23:39.06 | vitx | It's just important for people to get a smooth experience so that they don't move to another distro |
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| 23:39.54 | dTal | !dfsg |
| 23:39.54 | dpkg | DFSG is the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which are explained at http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines . For a full list of DFSG-compatible/incompatible software licenses, see http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses |
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