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| 00:08.01 | plm0404 | hi, someone know how to hack instagram in kali linux? |
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| 00:08.28 | plm0404 | hi, someone know how to hack instagram in kali linux? |
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| 00:08.45 | plm0404 | hi, someone know how to hack instagram in kali linux? |
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| 00:08.56 | Sveta | plm0404: hi, please do not spam. |
| 00:08.58 | tomreyn | yes, you run firefox, and you type instagram.com. then you press enter (but you must press it quickly!) |
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| 00:09.01 | tomreyn | fonr, hacked. |
| 00:09.05 | tomreyn | *done |
| 00:09.24 | Sveta | plm0404: what is your goal here? instagram is a proprietary photo sharing platform. |
| 00:09.27 | tomreyn | u r leet!!11 |
| 00:09.38 | lungaro | Gimmme a Script Kiddie...... |
| 00:09.59 | tomreyn | oh this is #debian, not #security, i mixed up, sorry about the spam. |
| 00:10.07 | Sveta | oopsies :) |
| 00:11.04 | guoruei | call fbi |
| 00:11.54 | annadane | plm0404, first, no one on any irc channel is going to tell you how to "hack instagram". and you probably shouldn't, anyway. second, this is not the kali channel. third, hacking is a multi faceted thing no one can just "tell you" how to do |
| 00:12.16 | annadane | fourth, don't spam the channel |
| 00:12.41 | plm0404 | i want to hack instagram because someone crate a page in which he or she put a lot of gossips about me and my community. so... can someone help me? |
| 00:12.58 | Sveta | plm0404: you need to report this to instagram admins. |
| 00:13.03 | Sveta | plm0404: they will remove it. |
| 00:13.37 | Sveta | plm0404: not really a debian question, is it? |
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| 00:14.12 | plm0404 | but i dont want to remove it, i want to know who is the person of tis account |
| 00:14.32 | tomreyn | plm0404: still off topic here |
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| 00:15.08 | Sveta | plm0404: you can ask ##law for more info, if you think this stuff is illegal, law enforcement may be able to assist. |
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| 00:16.19 | guoruei | u can tall too account user |
| 00:16.38 | guoruei | MP Him |
| 00:16.47 | klys | debian today is built on a bunch of scripts. more so than redhat was. systemd only adds to the poison. who is making decisions like that? |
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| 00:17.27 | Sveta | klys: browse debian mailing lists and if you dislike it, alter your system or use a derivative distro such as devuan. |
| 00:17.55 | themill | also, systemd gets rid of bazillions of scripts. And let's not do this again. |
| 00:17.58 | guoruei | gnewsence is good |
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| 00:18.36 | guoruei | if u do not like ,,try gnewsence |
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| 01:06.05 | Kedor | æ人åï½ |
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| 01:07.03 | TENEX | I |
| 01:07.22 | Kedor | else? |
| 01:07.31 | annadane | !zh |
| 01:07.32 | dpkg | å¦ææ¨æ³è¦ä»¥ä¸æå¾å° Debian ç¸éçåå©ï¼è«å å
¥ irc.debian.org æ irc.oftc.net ä¸ç #dot é »éï¼é£ç·èå å
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| 01:07.34 | annadane | Kedor, ^ |
| 01:07.50 | Kedor | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.46 | Kedor | How old are you? annadane |
| 01:09.21 | Kedor | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.44 | guoruei | wow |
| 01:09.50 | guoruei | chinese |
| 01:09.55 | Kedor | yeah |
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| 01:10.17 | Kedor | I'm 12. |
| 01:14.49 | guoruei | ok |
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| 01:15.41 | Kedor | are you Chinese ,too? |
| 01:15.51 | guoruei | yeah |
| 01:15.58 | Kedor | wow |
| 01:16.21 | Kedor | é¾ä»¥ç½®ä¿¡ |
| 01:16.58 | TENEX | ããã |
| 01:17.00 | Sveta | annadane: #dot is the name of channel? |
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| 01:17.12 | Sveta | oh, wow. |
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| 01:17.32 | Kedor | perhapsï¼Sveta |
| 01:17.34 | annadane | !offtopic |
| 01:17.34 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 01:17.49 | Sveta | Kedor: does irc://irc.oftc.net/dot click for you? |
| 01:18.23 | Kedor | Errããã |
| 01:18.35 | Kedor | freenode |
| 01:18.45 | Kedor | I don't know |
| 01:19.17 | guoruei | haha |
| 01:19.54 | Sveta | I think it works, you are in there |
| 01:20.18 | Sveta | guoruei, irc://irc.oftc.net/dot |
| 01:21.17 | Kedor | It is the IRC server |
| 01:21.23 | Kedor | Sveta |
| 01:21.32 | lungaro | anyone know if screen has a control socket, similar to tmux? |
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| 01:21.52 | lungaro | i want to list sessions, and then list what commands are running in what screen # |
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| 01:23.18 | Kedor | search engines |
| 01:24.01 | Sveta | lungaro: i think it uses named pipe /var/run/screen/S-*/* |
| 01:24.59 | Sveta | lungaro: `screen` has a few switches that let you list this stuff too, not sure whether they are useful compared to the info from the socket or named pipe |
| 01:25.00 | lungaro | Trying to figure out the interface ,is it just a simple text based protocol? |
| 01:26.25 | Kedor | Oh,god |
| 01:26.43 | Sveta | lungaro: to be fair i have no idea, you could run various screen commands and listen to the stuff that's going through the pipe if you know how |
| 01:26.44 | Kedor | You guys are terrific |
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| 01:28.16 | Kedor | anyone know the EMPï¼ |
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| 01:31.46 | guoruei | Kedor: go EMP channal |
| 01:32.07 | lungaro | yeah, I dont get it, i'll see what I can find out. I am using socat, echo "info" | socat PIPE:$SCREEN_PIPE STDIO |
| 01:32.07 | guoruei | let's talk debian here |
| 01:32.08 | Sveta | lungaro: as an option, you could ask #screen, my search queries don't seem fruitful |
| 01:32.09 | lungaro | and nothing works |
| 01:32.28 | lungaro | cheers, i am reding this now, must be missing something simple |
| 01:32.33 | lungaro | ^ https://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.txt |
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| 01:34.02 | Kedor | ... |
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| 01:35.50 | guoruei | Kedor: o |
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| 04:00.21 | twatmassager | i like twats |
| 04:00.25 | twatmassager | i like cunta |
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| 04:00.37 | twatmassager | i like pussies |
| 04:00.39 | twatmassager | sexy pussy |
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| 04:01.50 | dax | twatmassager: let's not start again, please |
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| 04:26.57 | annadane | err |
| 04:27.17 | annadane | what do you do if you get a reply in the mailing list which shows on lists.debian.org but it's not in your inbox |
| 04:28.06 | nkuttler | annadane: verify that you're subscribed? wait? check your spamfilter? |
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| 04:30.30 | annadane | nkuttler, you don't need to be subscribed to get a reply, and no it's not in spam |
| 04:32.33 | annadane | i'd send a dual email to the person who replies and the list itself but that's a no-no |
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| 05:24.56 | v0idpwn | My audio isnt working... I've alsa mixer installed, but I think maybe I've got some missing package. |
| 05:26.25 | v0idpwn | nvm fixed |
| 05:26.27 | v0idpwn | lmao |
| 05:26.49 | SirLagz | v0idpwn: was it muted? :P |
| 05:27.09 | v0idpwn | Yeah... I totally forgot about it |
| 05:27.12 | SirLagz | heh |
| 05:27.21 | v0idpwn | happens on every install |
| 05:27.23 | v0idpwn | haha |
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| 05:42.37 | codingquark | Hello! I want to run Debian on RPi3. Reading https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi3 I can see I won't get BT and WiFi. I don't care for those 2. I will be running it as my production server. Is the current status good enough for the purpose? |
| 05:43.02 | t5u | codingquark: go light |
| 05:44.41 | codingquark | t5u: raspbian light? |
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| 05:45.55 | t5u | yes it seems to have all the unnecessary soft that you wont need for the pure production server |
| 05:46.16 | t5u | light is more secure |
| 05:47.26 | codingquark | Hmm, okay. I already have that on one SD card. Sticking with it then. |
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| 06:03.44 | pavan | Hello everyone I want to know how to install wifi drivers in debian based distros like kali linux. I tried almost every possible method i know of can anybody help me plss. |
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| 06:05.38 | Sveta | pavan: debian based distros are unsupported here, you need to use their own channels or ##linux instead. (they're non trivial to troubleshoot, debian peeps don't really want to know what changes the derivative distros made) |
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| 06:52.07 | lizzzy | Hello. I get "Name or service not known" when I try to ping ANY *.it domain. My browser shows "www.google.it's server DNS address could not be found." I can view .ch, .co.uk, .ca, .nz, .com.au, etc. |
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| 06:52.20 | Heavenly | sysinfo |
| 06:52.24 | Heavenly | Client: HexChat 2.12.4 ⢠OS: Kali "kali-rolling" kali-rolling ⢠CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz (3,30GHz) ⢠Memory: Physical: 3,7 GiB Total (943,8 MiB Free) Swap: 4,5 GiB Total (4,5 GiB Free) ⢠Storage: 22,8 GB / 184,4 GB (161,6 GB Free) ⢠VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series] @ Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Contr |
| 06:52.24 | Heavenly | oller ⢠Uptime: 26m 29s |
| 06:52.54 | annadane | Heavenly, not a kali channel unfortunately |
| 06:52.57 | annadane | !kali |
| 06:52.57 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
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| 08:06.46 | glaive | i accidentally deleted an .odt file from my home folder |
| 08:06.52 | glaive | now I open up libreoffice |
| 08:06.58 | glaive | and i click on the document in recents |
| 08:07.02 | glaive | it says it is not there |
| 08:07.08 | glaive | how can I recover this file? |
| 08:07.14 | glaive | or atleast, since it is a one page file |
| 08:07.27 | glaive | how can I access the image that libreoffice recents uses |
| 08:07.36 | glaive | since if I zoom in a bit i might be able to make out the contents |
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| 08:21.52 | nix64bit | If I delete a file in an encrypted folder and it is visible in the Thunar trash folder, if I unmount the encrypted folder it isnt visible in trash but is recorded as a file, even if I delete the entire trash folder it still thinks it has a deleted file, where does it store this information? |
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| 08:58.43 | throwthecheese | How do I make an ISO with ddrescue? |
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| 09:44.11 | throwthecheese | Can somebody tell me how to create an ISO image with ddrescue? |
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| 09:49.26 | babilen | throwthecheese: Are you sure ddrescue can do that? You might want to rescue the data first and then look into https://wiki.debian.org/CDDVDTools for iso step and writing that data to optical media |
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| 10:20.51 | wm4 | does anyone know how to fix spell checking in kate and git-cola? they stopped working a few years ago or so |
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| 10:26.32 | z8z | is a jigdo file for XLBD planned to be made? Would be nice to have whole debian repos in 1 single blu ray |
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| 10:31.48 | cheapie | z8z: AFAIK, no, but you /can/ install debian-cd on your own box and make it yourself. It's a major pain, but I did manage to make it work once. |
| 10:32.19 | cheapie | IIRC, it was a bit over 50GB for amd64 only, and about 75GB when I made one that was i386+amd64. |
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| 10:44.50 | z8z | cheapie: Well was hoping for some of the expert in debian team to make it :| |
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| 10:46.23 | Ormu1 | has anyone configured HP Laserjet Pro 400 color M451dn on Debian? I can't find the model anywhere in CUPS configuration list |
| 10:46.55 | Ormu1 | i've configured it on Fedora once and as far as i remember, it was really simple |
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| 10:47.16 | neradissa | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:53.24 | dixie7z__ | I recently did upgrade dist-upgrade and ended up with [FAILED] failed to start Light Display Manager on boot.... there are SOLVED topics on google but all on Arch Linux |
| 10:53.52 | dixie7z__ | can I just remove lightdm? |
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| 10:54.02 | dixie7z__ | i can do start x at login |
| 10:54.07 | dixie7z__ | startx |
| 10:54.14 | annadane | dixie7z__, probably |
| 10:54.35 | annadane | iirc that works but i'm not certain |
| 10:55.02 | dixie7z__ | ok thx |
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| 11:42.58 | glick | hi |
| 11:43.17 | glick | hey i just found out that Dia was effectively dead! :( |
| 11:43.22 | glick | Whyyyy!!!!!!! |
| 11:43.32 | lizzzy | What is "Dia"? |
| 11:43.50 | glick | Diagram editor |
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| 11:44.02 | glick | was a sweet program to create visio type diagrams |
| 11:44.05 | lizzzy | Asl the devs. |
| 11:44.08 | lizzzy | Ask |
| 11:44.22 | glick | last release was 2014 |
| 11:44.46 | glick | does anyone know of a good visio type program? |
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| 11:55.36 | wm4 | glick: how did it die? |
| 11:56.02 | Nawab | ,v libxml |
| 11:56.04 | judd | No package named 'libxml' was found in amd64. |
| 11:56.04 | glick | i dont know i see its last been updated in 2014 |
| 11:56.06 | Nawab | ,v libxml2 |
| 11:56.07 | judd | Package: libxml2 on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.8.0+dfsg1-7+wheezy5; wheezy-security: 2.8.0+dfsg1-7+wheezy9; jessie: 2.9.1+dfsg1-5+deb8u4; jessie-proposed-updates: 2.9.1+dfsg1-5+deb8u5; jessie-security: 2.9.1+dfsg1-5+deb8u5; stretch: 2.9.4+dfsg1-2.2+deb9u1; stretch-security: 2.9.4+dfsg1-2.2+deb9u1; buster: 2.9.4+dfsg1-5+b1; sid: 2.9.4+dfsg1-5+b1 |
| 11:56.23 | glick | and forum posts go unanswered |
| 11:56.36 | Nawab | ,v libpng |
| 11:56.37 | judd | No package named 'libpng' was found in amd64. |
| 11:56.56 | Nawab | ,v libvorbis |
| 11:56.57 | judd | No package named 'libvorbis' was found in amd64. |
| 11:57.12 | themill | Nawab: please /msg the bot |
| 11:57.28 | Nawab | ok |
| 11:57.57 | nix64bit | any thoughts on BinaryField |
| 11:58.15 | nix64bit | wrong window |
| 11:58.21 | wm4 | glick: did you check the upstream repo? |
| 11:58.28 | wm4 | because debian sometimes forgets to update packages |
| 11:58.39 | glick | wm4 im lookin at the dia website |
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| 11:58.40 | Satou | Hey guys, i'm curious if there is any risk of installing a package from backports (network-manager) on stable (8.9) |
| 11:58.42 | glick | if you could call it that |
| 11:59.09 | themill | Satou: network-manager is not in backports |
| 12:00.00 | Satou | themill, https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=network-manager |
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| 12:00.21 | themill | Satou: and? |
| 12:00.31 | glick | pencil project looks interesting |
| 12:00.36 | Satou | I have network manager 0.9, i wanna upgrade it to something more than 1.4 |
| 12:00.40 | glick | and its gpl2 software |
| 12:00.58 | themill | Satou: then you'd be looking to upgrade from jessie to stretch |
| 12:01.41 | tsukuyomi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:02.40 | Satou | themill, Will i loose anything if i upgrade from 8.9 to 9.x ? |
| 12:02.50 | glick | thats interesting, they say its gpl 2 software but i dont see a link to the source code on their website |
| 12:02.53 | themill | Satou: you'd read the release notes... |
| 12:03.36 | Satou | themill, alright, thank you |
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| 12:11.58 | glick | libre office doesnt have all the awesome templates and stencils dia had |
| 12:12.05 | glick | libre office draw |
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| 12:27.47 | introom | I've two eth-s. How to set one as the primary eth ? |
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| 12:38.49 | qman__ | introom: there is no concept of primary or secondary, just interfaces with configurations |
| 12:40.51 | introom | qman__: I'd like to make one interface being the default route. |
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| 12:41.29 | qman__ | introom: then configure the default route via that interface and not the other one |
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| 12:41.59 | introom | qman__: ip route commands? |
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| 12:42.39 | qman__ | yes, you also specify it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:42.54 | qman__ | the one you want to use should have a 'gateway' line, and the other one shouldn't |
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| 12:45.04 | introom | qman__: ip is assigned with dhcp with no known gateway ( a vm in vmware fusion). |
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| 12:47.27 | qman__ | if both interfaces are DHCP, you can set it up like the second answer here: https://serverfault.com/questions/29394/debian-interfaces-file-ignore-gateway-and-dns-entries-from-dhcp |
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| 12:55.38 | introom | qman__: thanx |
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| 13:23.12 | doofy | Hello. I'm having a rather weird problem. After installing debian-9.2.1 and booting into a new system, my keyboard is not working at all, with one exception. I am unable to login or switch between VTs, but could cause a reboot by pressing ctrl-alt-del. |
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| 13:26.06 | qman__ | doofy: AMD system, USB keyboard? |
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| 13:29.35 | Satou | Hey guys, i've updated 8.9 to 9 and now i cannot boot.. here's a picture about what's happening http://i66.tinypic.com/zmgw29.jpg |
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| 13:32.18 | doofy | qman__: amd system, ps/2 keyboard |
| 13:32.32 | doofy | qman__: when I attempted to connect a usb keyboard, the result was the same |
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| 13:32.45 | qman__ | doofy: try messing with the IOMMU settings in the BIOS |
| 13:33.09 | doofy | qman__: How? Disable? Enable? |
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| 13:33.55 | qman__ | doofy: it's complicated, I usually just toggle things until they work - this thread goes into a lot of detail on the subject https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/72625/why-is-usb-not-working-in-linux-when-it-works-in-uefi-bios |
| 13:34.29 | qman__ | basically the IOMMU implementation is a little flawed and not very well-supported |
| 13:34.37 | doofy | qman__: That's weird. The keyboard works in netbsd. |
| 13:34.38 | qman__ | so it takes some doing to get it to work right |
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| 13:36.21 | qman__ | yeah, it's a linux-specific problem |
| 13:36.26 | doofy | ok |
| 13:36.48 | doofy | now, I'm getting something weird; there's a message about some firmware failing to load, and the boot is stuck |
| 13:37.13 | doofy | radeon firmware and something for one of the NICs |
| 13:37.22 | tsukuyomi | xhi, I'm trying to access chatango.com but it won't let me use the chat, it's flashplayer based I think. My flashplayer works fine everywhere. On windows I'm able to access it. What can I do? |
| 13:37.22 | tsukuyomi | hi* |
| 13:37.26 | qman__ | ah, now that's a debian-specific problem, you probably need the linux-firmware package from non-free |
| 13:37.29 | efsnable | why cant i login to a debian machine with root ? |
| 13:37.40 | efsnable | so that i wouldnt have to sudo alll the time |
| 13:38.01 | SirLagz | efsnable: or you could just sudo -i and then you'd have a root shell...but why do you need root all the time? |
| 13:38.08 | doofy | qman__: ok; but I can't even get to the login prompt at this point |
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| 13:38.18 | dvs | efsnable, because X won't let you. It's a security risk |
| 13:38.22 | efsnable | because lets say I want to edit a config file |
| 13:38.29 | SirLagz | sudoedit <configfile> |
| 13:38.29 | efsnable | usually it would yield out an error message |
| 13:38.35 | doofy | qman__: Can't switch VTs, etc. I'm not even getting a login program running, apparently. |
| 13:38.38 | efsnable | that i have no right to write to whatever |
| 13:38.42 | qman__ | doofy: does the keyboard work in the install media? you could boot live, go into rescure mode, chroot and install packages, etc |
| 13:38.45 | efsnable | and i like to use KATE as my editor |
| 13:38.55 | doofy | qman__: keyboard works in the install media |
| 13:38.56 | Satou | I upgraded my machine to strerch, and now this happnens..http://i66.tinypic.com/zmgw29.jpg |
| 13:38.57 | doofy | ok |
| 13:39.12 | doofy | qman__: I don't have a live image, only a netinst. |
| 13:39.19 | Satou | How can i fix this? It:s been a couple of minutes |
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| 13:39.42 | SirLagz | efsnable: so sudo kate <file> ? |
| 13:39.56 | efsnable | can i do that ? |
| 13:40.01 | efsnable | cool thanks |
| 13:40.02 | SirLagz | efsnable: why wouldn't you be able to? |
| 13:40.08 | efsnable | i dont know, im a noob.. |
| 13:40.20 | SirLagz | efsnable: righto. Well, first rule of linux, try everything |
| 13:40.30 | SirLagz | efsnable: do you want to know something? try it! |
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| 13:42.12 | `levi | hello :) |
| 13:44.15 | Satou | Guys, can someone please help me? I've crashed my system while trying to upgrade to strech.. |
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| 13:45.24 | Megaf | Satou, from Wheezy or Jessie? |
| 13:45.30 | Satou | Jessie |
| 13:45.37 | Megaf | Define crashed |
| 13:45.42 | Satou | I took a picture http://i66.tinypic.com/zmgw29.jpg |
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| 13:46.05 | Satou | It says some system failed to start and i dont get prompted to a cli or to login to gnome |
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| 13:51.31 | Guest78653 | anyone having trouble installing debian 9 |
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| 13:51.56 | Guest78653 | today it is freezing at "scanning the mirror" |
| 13:51.58 | Satou | Im having trouble upgrading to debian 9 |
| 13:52.00 | Megaf | Satou, You know if you are using PPAs and third party repos? |
| 13:52.04 | Guest78653 | this worked fine yesterday |
| 13:52.29 | Megaf | Guest78653, first fix your nick, mitty is already taken |
| 13:52.34 | Megaf | oh, there we go |
| 13:52.37 | Satou | Ive followed a guide to upgrade, but i dont think so |
| 13:53.05 | Megaf | Satou, ok, in the start menu, theres the advanced options, called single user or something |
| 13:53.09 | Megaf | see if that starts |
| 13:53.12 | Megaf | and come back here |
| 13:53.33 | Megaf | Satou, you should get to a point where it asks for root password |
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| 13:53.56 | Megaf | mitty20, replace the URL for repos in your sources.list with deb.debian.org |
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| 13:54.29 | Megaf | mitty20, so it will looke like deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main |
| 13:54.38 | Megaf | then try apt update |
| 13:54.42 | mitty20 | ok, will try that. ftp.uk.debian.org was working fine yesterday for me on another install |
| 13:55.06 | Megaf | mitty20, and disable any third party repo you might have |
| 13:55.10 | Megaf | and PPAs |
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| 13:55.19 | Hagbard23 | Hi All, is Xubuntu effectively the same as Ubuntu but just without the eye-candy nonsense? |
| 13:55.19 | mitty20 | this is a fresh install |
| 13:55.26 | Megaf | don't use PPAs, ever, just don't. Debian is not Ubuntu |
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| 13:55.33 | Megaf | Hagbard23, wrong channel |
| 13:55.35 | mitty20 | understood |
| 13:55.43 | Megaf | Hagbard23, try #Ubuntu |
| 13:55.44 | Hagbard23 | Sorry Megaf |
| 13:56.16 | Satou | Ok Megaf, i booted into single user mode |
| 13:56.26 | Hagbard23 | Hi Megaf, I tried to connect to the #Ubuntu channel but I need to register my Nick via NickServe, I have done this but it doesn't recognise my login, so I have come to the #debian channel. |
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| 13:56.52 | Satou | It didnt ask for root passwd tho |
| 13:57.09 | Hagbard23 | Satou, you need to type-in sudo apt-get update |
| 13:57.15 | Satou | It says root@none tho |
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| 13:57.31 | Hagbard23 | Satou: Are you in guest mode? |
| 13:57.59 | Satou | I dont know, ive edited a grub option in order to get here |
| 13:58.21 | Hagbard23 | What option have you added to your grub configuration? |
| 13:58.33 | Satou | I dont think it has an internet conmection, should i plug in with ethernet cable? |
| 13:58.46 | Satou | Init="/bin/bash" |
| 13:58.46 | Hagbard23 | try "ifconfig" |
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| 13:59.05 | Hagbard23 | Ok, so are you able to connect to the internet? |
| 13:59.36 | Megaf | Satou, That's not what I instructed you to do, if you are not willing to help me help you I will not help you. |
| 14:00.06 | Satou | Sorry megaf, i am new to linux, how do i properly boot into single user mode |
| 14:00.10 | Hagbard23 | Megaf, that is not particularly helpful, let Satou define the problem |
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| 14:00.37 | Hagbard23 | OK Satou, please can you outline what is it is you're actually trying to do? |
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| 14:00.53 | mitty20 | Megaf, I've just tried selecting deb.debian.org from the mirror list and it is still stuck on "Scanning the mirror" stage of the debian installer. :( |
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| 14:01.10 | Satou | Hagbard23, i upgraded my jessie to stretch, got this:http://i66.tinypic.com/zmgw29.jpg after reboot |
| 14:01.36 | Megaf | Satou, I don't know if I can be more clear. When you start the computer, you get to a boot menu, theres two options, the default and advanced one. Choose advanced and then the second option, |
| 14:01.43 | Hagbard23 | OK Megaf, it sounds as if it's hanging because it can't access the internet |
| 14:01.55 | Hagbard23 | What computer are you trying to install on? |
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| 14:02.10 | Satou | Sorry megaf, it said recovery not single user |
| 14:02.24 | Megaf | Hagbard23, what happened is some packages failed to properly install |
| 14:02.28 | mitty20 | this is the stage of install it freeze on: https://imgur.com/jahtuL6 |
| 14:02.32 | Megaf | Satou, so use recovery option, sorry |
| 14:02.35 | Hagbard23 | Yes it sounds as if that is the case |
| 14:02.42 | mitty20 | doesn't seem to matter what mirror I select |
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| 14:02.46 | Hagbard23 | OK |
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| 14:02.50 | Hagbard23 | it points to a network issue |
| 14:03.14 | Satou | Ok its asking dor root password |
| 14:03.15 | Megaf | mitty20, that's now how you upgrade |
| 14:03.19 | Megaf | that's for clean install |
| 14:03.24 | Satou | Ok, got a shell |
| 14:03.28 | Megaf | Satou, good :) |
| 14:03.36 | mitty20 | I'm trying to clean install |
| 14:03.46 | Megaf | Satou, do you have a network cable plugged in? |
| 14:03.49 | Hagbard23 | Satou: Excellent, give yourself a gold start. (*) |
| 14:03.52 | Hagbard23 | *star |
| 14:03.52 | mitty20 | this worked perfectly for me on another machine yesterday |
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| 14:04.00 | Hagbard23 | ping Hagbard23 |
| 14:04.02 | Satou | No, shall i go grab one? |
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| 14:04.19 | Megaf | mitty20, just wait a little longer maybe |
| 14:04.20 | Hagbard23 | Satou: Please do. |
| 14:04.26 | Megaf | Satou, if possible |
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| 14:04.41 | Satou | Ok, i will be back in a second |
| 14:04.54 | Megaf | Satou, then just run the command dhclient to get internet connection |
| 14:05.13 | Megaf | Satou, advise when ready for further instructions |
| 14:06.06 | Hagbard23 | Megaf: He may not necessarily be able to use his wireless, if he is indeed trying to connect to the internet via wireless, does recovery mode enumerate network devices like wlan0? |
| 14:07.03 | Megaf | Hagbard23, yep, but it will be quite tricky to get wifi in the recovery |
| 14:07.15 | Megaf | specially since network-manager is not working |
| 14:07.32 | Hagbard23 | Megaf: So I recommend that he use Ethernet just to fix the packages then he can go back to normal. |
| 14:07.39 | teraflops | Megaf: recovery = debian iso rescue mode? |
| 14:07.52 | Megaf | teraflops, nope |
| 14:07.54 | teraflops | ah |
| 14:08.05 | Hagbard23 | teraflops: Effectively, yes, however does require mount of drives |
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| 14:08.07 | Satou | Megaf ok im plugged in |
| 14:08.08 | Megaf | teraflops, is a grub option, the second option in the list |
| 14:08.14 | teraflops | so yes or nop :P |
| 14:08.20 | teraflops | ah true Megaf |
| 14:08.28 | Megaf | teraflops, tho you can do similar stuff with the rescue mode in the ISO if the system is not booting at all |
| 14:08.42 | Hagbard23 | I'm not an expert on Debian, I was born in the 90s :-) |
| 14:08.42 | Megaf | they both have similar function |
| 14:08.59 | Megaf | Satou, Brilliant |
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| 14:09.11 | Megaf | Satou, now try apt update |
| 14:09.19 | Hagbard23 | sudo apt update |
| 14:09.22 | Megaf | Satou, then apt full-upgrade |
| 14:09.23 | teraflops | yeah I was thinking that the rescue mode on the iso runs the netwoking wizard, before asking for chroot |
| 14:09.29 | Megaf | Hagbard23, forget sudo, this is not Ubuntu |
| 14:09.31 | Satou | Did you mean dhclient eth0? |
| 14:09.37 | Hagbard23 | My apologies Megaf |
| 14:09.46 | Satou | Ok, nvm, interner works |
| 14:09.52 | Hagbard23 | Satou: if you are connecting my ethernet, then use |
| 14:09.59 | Megaf | Satou, I was clear enough I think. |
| 14:09.59 | Megaf | <Megaf> Satou, then just run the command dhclient to get internet connection |
| 14:10.00 | Hagbard23 | yes, even. |
| 14:10.25 | elof | Why don't Debian remove an entire package while I type apt remove, since it prompts I need to apt autoremove it |
| 14:10.39 | Megaf | Hagbard23, also, in recovery mode you can only log in as root |
| 14:10.51 | Megaf | you use sudo when root password is not defined and you are a regular user |
| 14:11.06 | Megaf | Hagbard23, on Debian, setting root password is the default. |
| 14:11.46 | Megaf | elof, to remove entire package and deps a hardcore command would be apt remove --purge --auto-remove package* |
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| 14:12.00 | Megaf | elof, but pay a lot of attention to what is going to be removed |
| 14:12.20 | teraflops | elof: bad idea imo |
| 14:12.55 | elof | Megaf: I know purge, but don't get why don't it just get removed when apt remove and apt autoremove or purge at the first? |
| 14:13.25 | elof | why don't apt remove=apt-get purge? |
| 14:13.39 | Megaf | elof, you can combine all that in a single command apt purge --auto-remove package* |
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| 14:14.05 | Megaf | elof, because apt-get purge = apt purge |
| 14:14.11 | Megaf | ;) |
| 14:14.14 | mitty20 | Megaf: waiting longer worked, it finally got past the "scanning the mirror" screen, thanks for your help! :) |
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| 14:14.23 | elof | Megaf: Is it included in Debian refernece? |
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| 14:14.43 | Sato | Mefaf, full-upgrade says i have unmet dependencies |
| 14:14.43 | elof | Debian Reference is a huge refernce to finish reding..... |
| 14:14.52 | Megaf | elof, I don't know how to answer that. |
| 14:14.57 | Sato | Shall i try using -f ? |
| 14:15.05 | Megaf | mitty20, I'm glad it worked :) |
| 14:15.12 | Megaf | Sato, nope |
| 14:15.31 | Megaf | Sato, please do a nano /etc/apt/sources.list and take a photo |
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| 14:15.46 | elof | where is the sudoer's file? |
| 14:16.02 | SirLagz | elof: /etc/sudoers |
| 14:16.25 | nkuttler | elof: don't edit it directly, use visudo |
| 14:17.01 | elof | is it a built-in software? |
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| 14:17.04 | Sato | http://i65.tinypic.com/344pdop.jpg |
| 14:17.16 | nkuttler | elof: it comes with sudo, yes, see also man 5 sudoers |
| 14:17.50 | Megaf | Sato, Thanks, that looks good, Although I would suggest replace httpredir with deb |
| 14:17.56 | elof | nkuttler: No manual entry for sudoer in section 5 |
| 14:18.00 | teraflops | Sato: do you have working internet connection? because you do not need to take a photo of a text file |
| 14:18.05 | Sato | Ok, im gonna chanfe that |
| 14:18.09 | jelly-home | elof: sudoers |
| 14:18.13 | Megaf | Sato, replace, then use ctrl o to save |
| 14:18.17 | Megaf | ctrl x to exit |
| 14:18.21 | nkuttler | elof: what? |
| 14:18.29 | Megaf | Sato, the apt update |
| 14:18.31 | dvs | Megaf, looks good? There's two versions in there! |
| 14:18.32 | Sato | I do, but i dont know how to upload that |
| 14:18.35 | Megaf | Sato, then apt full-upgrade |
| 14:18.37 | jelly-home | elof: you made a typo there. |
| 14:18.45 | elof | nkuttler: there is no sudoer manual in my Debian |
| 14:18.55 | jelly-home | elof: it's not "sudoer", you made a typo there. |
| 14:18.56 | Megaf | dvs, only stretch is uncommented and active |
| 14:19.29 | dvs | ah |
| 14:19.37 | teraflops | Sato: e.g curl -F c=@/etc/apt/sources.list https://ptpb.pw |
| 14:19.43 | elof | jelly-home: oh! it shows now |
| 14:19.49 | Megaf | Sato, sorry, add contrib non-free |
| 14:19.51 | Megaf | after main |
| 14:19.52 | Sato | Thank you teraflops |
| 14:19.59 | Megaf | Sato, ignore teraflops |
| 14:20.12 | teraflops | Megaf: sorry? |
| 14:20.42 | Megaf | Sato, all you need make that look like deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib non-free |
| 14:21.12 | teraflops | Megaf: asking users to take photos of text files in their systems with internet connection is too lame |
| 14:21.13 | Megaf | Sato, so basically the 3 lines at the bottom you add contrib non-free after main |
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| 14:21.29 | elof | SirLagz: I just found "sudoers.d" under /etc/ |
| 14:21.37 | Sato | Okay |
| 14:21.38 | Megaf | teraflops, that was part of his flow already. |
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| 14:21.48 | teraflops | Megaf: bah+ |
| 14:21.56 | Megaf | teraflops, besides, you didnt explain what the command is for |
| 14:22.02 | teraflops | bah² |
| 14:22.23 | Megaf | teraflops, as he said, he is new Linux user, he doesnt know what curl does |
| 14:22.29 | teraflops | bah³ |
| 14:22.41 | elof | The difference sudo vs type su and tpye root password? |
| 14:22.46 | Megaf | Btw, I failed to explain nano too |
| 14:22.57 | Megaf | elof, sudo is lame option of newbies using Ubuntu |
| 14:23.18 | Megaf | elof, real people will use su -c command |
| 14:23.22 | Megaf | or su |
| 14:23.25 | Megaf | root password |
| 14:23.27 | Megaf | command |
| 14:23.28 | Megaf | exit |
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| 14:23.33 | elof | Megaf: what about su? newbies for debian? |
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| 14:23.40 | Sato | Okay Megaf, apt update says 404 not found on some dropbox package |
| 14:23.44 | Megaf | shoots debhelper |
| 14:23.49 | teraflops | sudo is fine Megaf stop talking nonsense |
| 14:24.03 | Megaf | dislikes sudo |
| 14:24.14 | Megaf | elof, sudo is lame option of newbies using Ubuntu (In my own stupid idea) |
| 14:24.21 | Megaf | != reality |
| 14:24.22 | elof | teraflops: so what about the "Debian newbie" to root permission? |
| 14:24.29 | teraflops | sudo is fine |
| 14:24.37 | Megaf | Sato, ahah |
| 14:24.53 | jelly | Sato: you have stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
| 14:24.58 | Megaf | Sato, now we are getting somewhere, I told you to not use third party repos, you have something for dropbox |
| 14:25.06 | elof | teraflops: I used Ubuntu a long time ago, but years later, I prefer Debian. |
| 14:25.08 | elof | lol |
| 14:25.15 | Megaf | Sato, that might be braking the system |
| 14:25.18 | Sato | I see |
| 14:25.45 | elof | jelly: it just has a readme file,but unknown extension |
| 14:25.48 | Sato | I have dropbox, google chrome, mongodb, skype, vivaldi and vscode |
| 14:25.49 | Megaf | Sato, so, you can use nano to edit the files, and put a # in front of the lines to comment them and disable them. |
| 14:25.59 | Megaf | oh boy |
| 14:26.10 | Megaf | no wonder the system is broken |
| 14:26.17 | Sato | Can i remove the ones i dont care about? |
| 14:26.29 | Megaf | Are you even using all that? |
| 14:26.37 | jelly | elof: sorry, I'm not sure what you're talking about |
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| 14:26.54 | Megaf | Sato, we can remove all these packages, fix the system and reinstall later. If that's ok for you |
| 14:27.00 | elof | about sudoers file |
| 14:27.05 | Sato | Chrome, vivaldi and mongo |
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| 14:27.37 | Megaf | Sato, apt remove --auto-remove google-chrome* skype* mongodb* vivaldi* skype* |
| 14:27.41 | jelly | Sato: did you read the release notes? One of the steps for a release upgrade is temporarily removing all the third party sources |
| 14:27.45 | Megaf | Sato, apt remove --auto-remove google-chrome* skype* mongodb* vivaldi* skype* vscode* |
| 14:27.52 | Megaf | and dropbox... |
| 14:28.17 | jelly | removing packages might be overkill, but okay |
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| 14:29.07 | Sato | Okay, actually i commented them for now, should be ok |
| 14:29.47 | Sato | What is the next step Megaf? |
| 14:29.59 | jelly | dpkg, tell Sato about jessie->stretch |
| 14:30.13 | jelly | Sato: read that carefully. |
| 14:30.25 | Megaf | Sato, after every change in the sources you do apt update to gt a new version of the available packages |
| 14:30.39 | Megaf | Sato, then you can try apt full-upgrade again |
| 14:30.45 | Megaf | Sato, with fingers crossed |
| 14:31.00 | Megaf | and read what jelly said, later. |
| 14:31.19 | jelly | no, read it before |
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| 14:32.06 | Sato | Apt update kinda stops after it says fetched but doesnt prompt me to do another command again |
| 14:32.18 | jelly | what use is reading the instructions later, after things are broken |
| 14:32.42 | Megaf | Sato, apt update just updates the list of available packages, nothing else |
| 14:32.52 | Megaf | Sato, after that you do apt full-upgrade |
| 14:32.57 | Megaf | Sato, to update your system |
| 14:33.05 | jelly | Sato: are you in a GUI for that system right now? |
| 14:33.05 | Sato | Ok i did thar |
| 14:33.12 | Megaf | Sato, for more information use apt help |
| 14:33.31 | Megaf | jelly, he is in recovery mode, system stopped booting after a failed upgrade from jessie to stretch |
| 14:33.44 | Sato | Still unmet dependencies |
| 14:34.07 | Megaf | Sato, photo please |
| 14:34.12 | jelly | Sato, Megaf: did you do "dpkg --configure -a" and "apt -f install" already? |
| 14:34.30 | Megaf | jelly, will tell that based on the photo he will send now |
| 14:34.46 | jelly | Megaf: did you tell them to do the above ^^ yet? |
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| 14:35.03 | elof | I gave up on sudo settings, as I can use root with su |
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| 14:38.21 | Sato | http://i64.tinypic.com/vr51zm.jpg |
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| 14:38.42 | Sato | Also, i only have about 3.4 gb left on my root partition, i hope that's ok |
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| 14:44.02 | Sato | Megaf, what do you think? http://i64.tinypic.com/vr51zm.jpg |
| 14:44.31 | Megaf | Sato, ok, I have bad news and good news for you |
| 14:44.43 | Sato | Well |
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| 14:45.09 | Megaf | jelly, you think a apt-get -f install will fix that? |
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| 14:45.41 | Megaf | Sato, I have a way to fix that I know it will work, I had to fix 3 servers with the same problem in the past 2 weeks |
| 14:45.49 | Megaf | but I'm curious to see what jelly has to say |
| 14:45.57 | Sato | Ok, i see |
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| 14:46.44 | Sato | I'm just a newbie, did i create a frankendebian with those third party repos? |
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| 14:48.12 | Sato | Megaf, also, is there a way i can increase my root partition's size, it's at 30gb right now, and it only has like 4 gb left |
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| 14:50.12 | Megaf | Sato, we take care of the size later |
| 14:50.30 | Sato | Ok, sorry for asking so many questions |
| 14:50.39 | Megaf | Sato, first lets try what jelly said before, run dpkg --configure -a |
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| 14:50.53 | Megaf | that will try to fix all these broken packages |
| 14:51.10 | Megaf | after the command finishes and/or fails, try apt -f install |
| 14:51.21 | Sato | Pretty much failed |
| 14:51.59 | Megaf | Sato, ok, you see at the very bottom, it complained about two packages |
| 14:52.28 | Megaf | Sato, xorg-video-abi and xserver-xorg-core |
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| 14:52.34 | Sato | I think there were more, but im running apt -f install |
| 14:52.48 | Megaf | Sato, is apt -f install working then? |
| 14:52.49 | jelly | Sato: read CAREFULLY what apt -f install wants to do. |
| 14:53.08 | jelly | it can ask you to remove lots of packages |
| 14:53.13 | Sato | It did |
| 14:53.23 | jelly | did you log the output? |
| 14:53.28 | Sato | About 1.8 MB of packages |
| 14:53.33 | Sato | No, i ran the command |
| 14:53.42 | jelly | are you running this inside script ? |
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| 14:53.55 | Sato | Im running this in a cli in recovery mode |
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| 14:53.58 | Megaf | jelly, basically apt is trying to install wrong package versions. apt install -t stretch xorg-video-abi-23/stretch will fix that |
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| 14:54.20 | Sato | Should i run that instead megaf? |
| 14:54.27 | taylan | hey peeps, why would "aptitude search '!~i ~pstandard'" show packages that aren't available for installation? this is after upgrading from 8 to 9 |
| 14:54.35 | jelly | Sato: you really should log all the output, so you can see if anything you use got removed, and can look at issues |
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| 14:54.55 | jelly | Sato: release notes suggest running everything under "script" |
| 14:55.09 | Megaf | jelly, that is not user friendly at all |
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| 14:55.22 | Megaf | Sato, ok, lets fix your system, shall we? |
| 14:55.34 | Sato | Megaf, so apt install -t stretch xorg-video-abi-23/stretch |
| 14:55.40 | jelly | Megaf: it's very friendly if they want to be able to look at, and show the output |
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| 14:56.38 | Megaf | Sato, run apt full-upgrade one more time, check the packages it complains about. Install them with apt install -t stretch packagename/stretch and after that try apt full-upgrade again. Repeat for every package it complains at the bottom. |
| 14:57.00 | jelly | taylan: probably because there were some packages with Priority: standard installed during jessie (debian 8) or earlier that do not exist in stretch (debian 9), but are still installed |
| 14:57.21 | taylan | jelly: but I specisy !~i |
| 14:57.24 | taylan | specify* |
| 14:57.37 | jelly | oh, I did not notice that ! |
| 14:57.41 | taylan | :) |
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| 14:57.51 | Megaf | Sato, you can install more than one package at the time, of course, for example. apt install -t stretch xorg-video-abi-23/stretch xserver-xorg-xore/stretch |
| 14:57.57 | Megaf | stretch* |
| 14:58.48 | Megaf | Sato, basically what we are doing is telling and forcing apt to install things from and to Debian Stretch |
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| 14:59.12 | taylan | there are such packages for ~pstandard and ~pimportant, though none for ~E or ~prequired. maybe it's unimportant but it bothers me because I like to keep strict control over how much my installed packages deviate from "core" Debian |
| 14:59.37 | jelly | taylan: which debian release is this? |
| 14:59.50 | taylan | I upgraded from 8.9 to 9.2 |
| 14:59.54 | Sato | Well unable to lock the administration directory... |
| 15:00.21 | taylan | and when I first installed it, I think it was more like 8.0 or maybe even older |
| 15:00.27 | Megaf | Sato, to see available space do df -h |
| 15:00.31 | Sato | I understand what you are saying, there are a ton of packages |
| 15:00.35 | Megaf | is any of your partitions full? |
| 15:00.44 | jelly | taylan: do you have any sources other than standard stretch sources in place? aptitude is probably finding package _versions_ that you do not have installed, but have some other version of same package installed |
| 15:00.48 | Sato | 3.8gb left in root |
| 15:00.54 | Sato | None full |
| 15:01.01 | taylan | hmm |
| 15:01.06 | Megaf | Sato, also, you can do apt-get clean to clean the cache of downloaded packages |
| 15:01.15 | Megaf | Sato, and try again |
| 15:01.15 | jelly | taylan: adding version to aptitude output format might provide a clue |
| 15:01.23 | fearnothing | hi folks |
| 15:01.28 | fearnothing | I need help fixing an issue with fonts |
| 15:01.44 | fearnothing | I'm running headless debian with libvirt and virt-manager |
| 15:01.45 | Sato | Could not get lock on /var/cache/apt/archives/lock |
| 15:01.53 | fearnothing | when I run virt-manager, it no longer renders characters |
| 15:02.16 | fearnothing | I have no idea how to troubleshoot a fonts issue, can anyone help please? |
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| 15:02.31 | Megaf | Sato, does the command ps aux | grep apt and ps aux | grep dpkg return anything? |
| 15:02.54 | Sato | Yes, shall i pkill themm |
| 15:02.55 | Sato | ? |
| 15:03.01 | Megaf | ps aux shows the list of active processes and grep will filter |
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| 15:03.18 | WillTheWise | is it acceptable to run your own open socks or http proxy on a vps or your home server, or is that sort of thing frowned upon? |
| 15:03.19 | Megaf | Sato, I don't get how you have stuff working in single user mode |
| 15:03.25 | Megaf | jelly, ^ |
| 15:03.40 | Megaf | can we kill apt? |
| 15:03.54 | Megaf | somehow it went to the background |
| 15:04.12 | Sato | Apt install -f to be specific |
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| 15:04.20 | jelly | Megaf: I'd look at the process tree and figure out what the leaf process running was, and kill that one |
| 15:05.18 | jelly | WillTheWise: your ISP may or may not mind. Your IP may end up on various blacklists. |
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| 15:06.02 | Sato | Megaf, should i kill that and continue with apt install -t stretch package/stretch? |
| 15:06.26 | jelly | -f isn't used with a package name. |
| 15:06.28 | Megaf | Sato, so, you get a number in the first or second collumn, thats the PID, Process ID. kill it with kill -TERM PID, replaced PID with the ID |
| 15:06.46 | Sato | Got ir |
| 15:06.46 | jelly | Sato: you either "apt -f install" or "apt install something", but not "apt -f install something" |
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| 15:09.29 | Sato | Wont kill the process... |
| 15:10.04 | fearnothing | this is what my issue looks like: |
| 15:10.05 | fearnothing | https://www.dropbox.com/s/55tklpcsj8m2t6a/virt-manager.png?dl=0 |
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| 15:10.42 | Megaf | Sato, try -KILL instead TERM |
| 15:10.45 | taylan | jelly: figured it out: it was showing me packages that were removed but not purged |
| 15:10.57 | Megaf | TERM = ask nicely for the process to stop |
| 15:10.58 | taylan | !~i didn't exclude them |
| 15:11.07 | Megaf | KILL or -9 = actually kill |
| 15:11.38 | jelly | taylan: that sounds like a bug |
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| 15:11.43 | Sato | Megaf, it still says could not get lock on .. |
| 15:11.54 | Sato | And unable to lock the dowwnload firectory |
| 15:12.01 | taylan | jelly: I dunno, they weren't installed after all, only their config files :P |
| 15:12.01 | Sato | When i try to apt-clean |
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| 15:12.10 | taylan | it sorta kinda makes sense to me |
| 15:12.24 | jelly | oh, I forgot about ! again |
| 15:12.28 | taylan | :D |
| 15:12.45 | Megaf | Sato, is the process still running? |
| 15:12.50 | Sato | Yes |
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| 15:13.22 | Megaf | Sato, ok, just reboot then and try dhclient again to get internet |
| 15:13.33 | Megaf | reboot is the actual command to reboot |
| 15:13.41 | Megaf | reboot into recovery again |
| 15:13.48 | Sato | Doing that now |
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| 15:15.13 | Sato | Ok back, with internet |
| 15:15.28 | Sato | So, i was to do an apt full-upgrade |
| 15:15.50 | Sato | And then install each package with apt install -t stretch package/stretch |
| 15:15.59 | Sato | Right Mega |
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| 15:17.18 | fearnothing | anyone feel like having a punt at this fonts issue? |
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| 15:17.38 | Megaf | Sato, right |
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| 15:19.34 | teraflops | fearnothing: what issue? I've just joined and I'm missing backlog |
| 15:20.37 | Sato | Megaf, it says that has ummet dependencies too |
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| 15:21.03 | Vall | How can I find which repo an installed package came from? |
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| 15:21.39 | Megaf | Sato, yep, at the bottom you will see the package is complaining about |
| 15:21.45 | Megaf | so add those to the list |
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| 15:21.57 | Sato | Manaually? |
| 15:22.12 | fearnothing | teraflops: fonts don't render in an X11 window via a putty session |
| 15:22.24 | fearnothing | I'm trying to run virt-manager, it has worked in the past |
| 15:22.28 | Megaf | Sato, so just keep trying and adding the packages at the bottom, manually yes. apt install -t stretch package1/stretch package2/stretch package3/stretch |
| 15:22.28 | elof | Does Debian have clothe or something to buy |
| 15:22.30 | fearnothing | but is no longer rendering characters correctly |
| 15:22.44 | Megaf | Sato, but only the ones at the bottom |
| 15:23.00 | Megaf | Sato, the ones after Depends: |
| 15:23.02 | jelly | fearnothing: this is likely an issue with your X server really, what are you using, xming? |
| 15:23.11 | fearnothing | yes |
| 15:23.28 | Megaf | Sato, thata is the last 2 or so |
| 15:23.30 | teraflops | fearnothing: by not render you meant you see blank squares, or you see diamond like glyph? |
| 15:23.31 | Megaf | that is* |
| 15:23.44 | Megaf | eventually things will sort themselves out |
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| 15:24.53 | fearnothing | the former |
| 15:26.51 | Sato | Megaf so, when i run apt install -f stretch xserver-xorg-core/stretch it says it depends on a list. And there's like xorg-video-abi-18 |
| 15:27.13 | teraflops | fearnothing: the former might be because youre missing glyphs |
| 15:27.29 | Sato | And it says release stretch of xorg-video-abi-qi was not found |
| 15:27.30 | teraflops | installing more fonts fixes it |
| 15:28.15 | Sato | I mean when i try to install that one says xorg-video-abi-18 was not found |
| 15:28.25 | Megaf | Sato, apt install -t stretch |
| 15:28.46 | Megaf | Sato, -t tells the Debian version you are working with, -f will force and break things |
| 15:28.57 | Megaf | ;) |
| 15:29.25 | babilen | -f actually fixes things |
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| 15:29.59 | Megaf | babilen, not in this case :) |
| 15:30.53 | Sato | apt install -t stretch xorg-video-abi-18 has no installatiom candidate |
| 15:31.01 | babilen | That might be the case (much like a purge doesn't install a package), but -f still tries to sort out broken dependencies |
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| 15:31.44 | Megaf | Sato, is that the package you get in apt full-upgrade? |
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| 15:31.54 | Megaf | wastn it xorg-video-abi-23? |
| 15:32.36 | Megaf | Sato, and one more time. apt install -t stretch packagename/stretch so apt install -t stretch xorg-video-abi-23/stretch |
| 15:33.04 | Sato | So, apt full-upgrade gives me a list of packages, you told me to focus on the bottom two |
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| 15:33.28 | jelly | Megaf: this is silly. Instead of blindly trying out things, ask Sato for whole output of said "apt -f install" or whatever apt command. |
| 15:33.47 | Megaf | Sato, yep |
| 15:33.59 | Sato | When i run apt install -t stretch xserver-xorg-core |
| 15:34.15 | Sato | It says that that package depends on other packages |
| 15:34.33 | jelly | Sato: run "script apt.log". It will open a new shell. Then run your command in it. When it fails, exit that shell and upload apt.log to a pastebin |
| 15:34.52 | jelly | Sato: do you have networking working at the moment? |
| 15:34.54 | Megaf | Sato, so add these other packages to the list, apt install -t stretch xorg-video-abi-23/stretch xserver-xorg-core/stretch |
| 15:35.01 | Megaf | and keep going |
| 15:35.20 | Megaf | and some point everything will sort itself |
| 15:35.26 | Megaf | at some point* |
| 15:35.43 | Sato | Release stretch for xorg-video-abi-we was not found |
| 15:36.01 | tw | !apt |
| 15:36.01 | dpkg | Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) is a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude and, from Debian 8 "Jessie" onwards, apt. See also <aptitude> <apt-get>, <apt-cache>, <apt myths>. |
| 15:36.02 | Megaf | Sato, can you just do a clean Debian install? |
| 15:36.10 | tw | What's the apt debugging paste thing? |
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| 15:36.15 | Sato | No, i have a lot of things on this one :( |
| 15:36.26 | jelly | tw: "bat" or "basic apt troubleshooting" |
| 15:36.34 | Megaf | if it's important you must have it backed up |
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| 15:36.44 | Megaf | if not backuped it's not important |
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| 15:36.48 | Sato | I dont have everything backed up... |
| 15:36.51 | Megaf | and you said it was new |
| 15:36.56 | jelly | tw: msg the bot if you're asking for yourself |
| 15:37.00 | Sato | No, it was not new |
| 15:37.13 | Sato | What should i do guys? |
| 15:37.24 | Megaf | jelly, Ok, I will leave Sato to you |
| 15:37.26 | tw | thanks. |
| 15:37.38 | Sato | Huh...thank you Megaf |
| 15:37.39 | Megaf | I'm very tired (not because Sato) |
| 15:37.52 | jelly | Megaf: next time, ask the user to log everything _first_ |
| 15:37.54 | Megaf | Been coding this script for the last 3 hours, I need a break |
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| 15:38.04 | teraflops | Sato: backups, also do not blindly trust/run whatever random guy is saying to you on the intertubes |
| 15:38.37 | Sato | Jelly, what should i do? |
| 15:38.54 | fearnothing | teraflops: here's a picture |
| 15:38.55 | fearnothing | https://www.dropbox.com/s/55tklpcsj8m2t6a/virt-manager.png?dl=0 |
| 15:38.55 | jelly | Sato: do you have networking working at the moment? |
| 15:38.59 | Sato | Yws |
| 15:39.01 | Sato | Yes |
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| 15:39.26 | jelly | Sato: run "script apt.log". It will open a new shell. Then run your command in it, eg. "apt -f install" or whatever. When it fails, exit that shell and upload apt.log to a pastebin |
| 15:39.42 | jelly | Sato: do you have curl command available? |
| 15:39.54 | Sato | I think so Jelly |
| 15:40.55 | Sato | But i dont know what should i do now... |
| 15:41.04 | Sato | What command shall i run |
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| 15:41.38 | jelly | Sato: start with "dpkg --configure -a" and "apt-get -f install" |
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| 15:41.56 | jelly | let's see how far that gets you |
| 15:42.12 | Sato | Should i say yes to the -f install promptm |
| 15:42.26 | Sato | It asks me to remove 1.5 mb |
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| 15:42.43 | jelly | Sato: say n, then exit and upload the file so we can look at the output |
| 15:42.50 | teraflops | fearnothing: it looks like either youre specifying a non existent font or youre missing glyphs (which are provided by installing more fonts). does this xming thingy have a fonts/additional fonts package? |
| 15:43.01 | Sato | Ok, how should i upload apt.logm |
| 15:43.07 | jelly | Sato: curl -F c=@apt.log https://ptpb.pw |
| 15:43.13 | tw | This feels like a bug to me: https://paste.debian.net/995309/ ; specifically, the jack2-dev package somehow can't get priority over jack-dev even though that would resolve the problem. |
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| 15:43.37 | tw | aptitude is smarter about it and at least tells me what's going on. |
| 15:44.10 | teraflops | I'm not big fan of aptitude but I agree with tw on this one |
| 15:44.14 | Sato | Jelly https://ptpb.pw/vWEk.log |
| 15:44.16 | fearnothing | teraflops: don't think so, and if that's the case, why would it have stopped working between a few weeks ago and now? |
| 15:44.50 | teraflops | did you upgrade/remove anything related? |
| 15:45.35 | jelly | Sato: yeah, that's a mess |
| 15:45.40 | teraflops | heh |
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| 15:47.10 | fearnothing | teraflops: not as far as I Know |
| 15:47.51 | jelly | Sato: pastebin the output of dpkg -l libc6 dpkg apt libapt\* python\*apt |
| 15:48.08 | fearnothing | in my xming log files there are some errors such as "Could not init font path element C:\Program Files\Xming\fonts\dejavu, removing from list!" |
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| 15:48.25 | fearnothing | but I certainly haven't changed anything about my xming install |
| 15:48.46 | jelly | Sato: you might use shorthand: dpkg -l libc6 dpkg apt libapt\* python\*apt | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw |
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| 15:49.59 | jelly | (and I fear it's a mess caused more by instructions telling to just do a full-upgrade, instead of upgrading dpkg, apt and dependencies first, then a safe-upgrade) |
| 15:50.29 | Sato | Jelly https://ptpb.pw/ZFDi |
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| 15:51.40 | jelly | Sato: just for fun, what would "apt install apt" do? |
| 15:52.11 | Sato | Gave me a list of unmet dependenciea |
| 15:52.47 | jelly | Sato: pastebin the output. Does it want to remove anything? |
| 15:56.02 | teraflops | Sato: apt install apt |& curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw |
| 15:56.17 | Sato | Jelly https://ptpb.Iqec.log |
| 15:56.23 | Sato | Soeey it was slow |
| 15:56.42 | Vall | How can I find which repo an installed package came from? Already looked through "man dpkg" and "apt-cache show" to no avail |
| 15:56.51 | Sato | https://ptpb.pw/Iqec.log |
| 15:57.38 | nkuttler | Vall: apt-cache policy pkg |
| 15:57.42 | Sato | Jelly https://ptpb.pw/IqeC.log |
| 15:57.49 | Sato | Sorry, im writing on my phone |
| 15:57.56 | nkuttler | Vall: or dpkg -l pkg |
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| 15:59.01 | Vall | nkuttler: thanks! ;-) |
| 16:00.00 | Vall | apt-cache policy did it |
| 16:00.08 | Vall | (dpkg -l doesn't) |
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| 16:01.15 | jelly | Sato: right. Do you have a /var/cache/apt/archives/libstdc++6_6.3.0-18*deb ? |
| 16:01.38 | fearnothing | even reinstalling xming has made no difference |
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| 16:02.14 | Sato | No |
| 16:03.10 | jelly | Sato: do you have anything starting with libstdc++6 in /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory? |
| 16:03.29 | Sato | No |
| 16:03.47 | jelly | wut |
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| 16:04.03 | Sato | I dont |
| 16:04.08 | jelly | yeah, got that |
| 16:04.36 | Sato | http://ptpb.pw/WAcJ |
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| 16:05.05 | Sato | I mean http://ptpb.pw/2AcJ |
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| 16:05.52 | Sato | Well that's dumb, pastebinned the result of a command that doesnt output anything |
| 16:06.08 | Sato | I ran locate libsdc++6 |
| 16:06.41 | jelly | Sato: locate will not find files apt recently downloaded, its database only updates once a day |
| 16:06.49 | Sato | Ok |
| 16:06.55 | Sato | What shall i do now? |
| 16:07.13 | jelly | Sato: let's see "ls -la /var/cache/apt/archives/ " then |
| 16:08.09 | Sato | Jelly http://ptpb.pw/V-9L |
| 16:09.31 | jelly | oh, you do have -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 395912 May 17 03:27 libstdc++6_6.3.0-18_amd64.deb |
| 16:09.42 | Sato | That's weird |
| 16:09.59 | Sato | Shall i install that? |
| 16:11.15 | jelly | Sato: let's clean up the most broken dependencies by hand a bit, then. run "script apt2.log", and keep it running, do everything inside that shell from now on. Then install it with dpkg: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libstdc++6_6.3.0-18_amd64.deb |
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| 16:12.50 | Sato | Jelly, https://ptpb.pw/hZRL.log |
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| 16:13.46 | jelly | Sato: do what it says, add --auto-deconfigure before install. |
| 16:13.55 | jelly | er, before -i |
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| 16:14.47 | Sato | Jelly https://ptpb.pw/xOSA |
| 16:15.08 | jelly | xOSA not found, typo? |
| 16:15.23 | Sato | https://ptpb.pw/xOSA.log |
| 16:15.36 | Sato | Yes, i am terribly sorry, im typing with my phone |
| 16:15.43 | jelly | https://ptpb.pw/xOSA.log also not found |
| 16:15.59 | Sato | https://ptpb.pw/x0SA.log |
| 16:17.01 | jelly | nice, so it installed |
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| 16:17.39 | jelly | Sato: now run "dpkg --configure -a", it ought to finish installation of a number of packages |
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| 16:18.34 | Sato | Jelly https://ptpb.pw/tBVW.log |
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| 16:20.55 | jelly | Sato: some, but not a lot. Now dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libdbus-1-3_1.10.22*deb |
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| 16:22.07 | Sato | Ok it did |
| 16:22.32 | jelly | Sato: and run "dpkg --configure -a" again after each successful manually installed dependency like that |
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| 16:23.29 | Sato | Ok i will give you the output in a second |
| 16:23.58 | jelly | after a couple most common deps, we can try to "apt -f install" again and see if it suggests something less crazy than removing 1.5GB of stuff |
| 16:24.18 | Sato | I think i might have removed something |
| 16:24.31 | Sato | Because it was 1.8 before and i did prompt it ro yes for a bit |
| 16:24.45 | Sato | This is extremely frustrating... |
| 16:25.15 | Sato | Dpkg --configure -a is not done yet |
| 16:25.15 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, Sato |
| 16:25.19 | jelly | it's the worst release upgrade since lenny->squeeze, when it breaks it's horrible to fix things |
| 16:25.43 | Sato | Jelly, thank you for helping...i cannot loose my configs |
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| 16:26.18 | Sato | Should i stop dpkg? It is stuck on some missing lsb tags for insserv |
| 16:26.22 | jelly | "apt -f install" seems to get really confused after half the packages are deconfigured and doesn't even consider them for upgrade |
| 16:26.39 | Sato | Nevermind |
| 16:26.43 | jelly | Sato: let it run. That part can be really slow (a couple minutes) |
| 16:26.49 | Sato | Ok |
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| 16:27.49 | Sato | If everything else fails, would it be ok if i gave you ssh access on my machine for you to look about what's wrong ? |
| 16:28.26 | jelly | I'd have to charge you for that, don't do remote fixing for free |
| 16:28.35 | Sato | Oh okay |
| 16:29.36 | jelly | more precisely: don't do fixes in private for free. Obviously you're getting some help for free right now... |
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| 16:30.01 | Sato | Sorry, im just so frustrated i broke everything... |
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| 16:31.16 | jelly | eh, if you actually read and followed release notes to the letter, things might have still broken halfway |
| 16:31.32 | Sato | I did not think it could break this bad |
| 16:31.48 | Sato | I have followed some instructions from a website which was user-friendly |
| 16:32.08 | mirak | hi |
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| 16:32.27 | jelly | Sato: hiding complexity is only user friendly if things 100% work 100% of the time |
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| 16:33.00 | Sato | If i do a new install |
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| 16:33.09 | Sato | Could i still keep my other partition? |
| 16:33.16 | jelly | sure |
| 16:33.32 | Sato | I just dont really want to install and reconfigure evwrything |
| 16:33.52 | Sato | I use my machine for web development, and have set a lot of things up |
| 16:34.42 | Sato | I should not waste any more of your time jelly... |
| 16:34.49 | mirak | Is there a way to make a kind of writable snapshot device on a real /dev/sd* device ? |
| 16:34.52 | Sato | Thank you for your help |
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| 16:38.25 | jelly | Sato: oh, you've chosen to do a fresh install and migrate the data to the fresh one? Good luck |
| 16:40.06 | teraflops | mirak: you can take btrfs snapshots |
| 16:40.48 | jelly | Sato: at this point you might be able to "apt -f install", let it remove lots of software, but you can install it back later after the upgrade is done |
| 16:41.10 | Sato | Yes, thank you, i might ask you some things later, if you do not mind |
| 16:41.20 | Sato | Really sorry ive wasted your time |
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| 16:42.24 | jelly | Sato: don't worry, you didn't waste any that wasn't freely offered |
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| 16:43.13 | jelly | Sato: here's a subset of maybe-useful packages that apt wanted to remove; I deleted obvious libraries and deps http://paste.debian.net/995319/ |
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| 16:45.05 | jelly | mysql 5.5 is replaced by mariadb so those are not a problem either, but if you have custom perl scripts in place you'll want to perl -c ... them and install back missing modules |
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| 16:48.37 | jelly | Sato: I've taken that output of "apt -f install" after "The following packages will be REMOVED:" from https://ptpb.pw/IqeC.log and cleaned it up; if you choose do that to be able to finish full-upgrade, those are some of the packages you may want to reinstall |
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| 17:00.29 | no_gravity | Hello! How do I install Chrome on Debian? I tried downloading it and then "dpkg -i google-chrome-stable". |
| 17:00.33 | no_gravity | But now google-chrome-stable gives me "error while loadin shared libraries"- |
| 17:00.35 | no_gravity | Any ideas? |
| 17:00.39 | fearnothing | still can't get this god damn xming working |
| 17:00.44 | fearnothing | the fonts are ALL THERE |
| 17:00.49 | fearnothing | and yet it can't render them |
| 17:00.51 | fearnothing | wtf |
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| 17:03.29 | no_gravity | Well, I now manually installed the libraries and now it works. |
| 17:03.48 | babilen | "apt-get -f install" |
| 17:04.45 | no_gravity | babilen: That installs all missing dependencies? |
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| 17:06.21 | jelly | no_gravity: yes, if it can |
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| 17:08.57 | no_gravity | Nice. Thanks. |
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| 17:38.21 | rawruw | PAM requires a service field. What determines a service name? Its binary file name? Systemd uses unit files or something to name them. sysvinit has its own quirks. What determines the service names? |
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| 17:43.14 | tw | rawruw: whatever the service wants. Whatever it passes to pam_start(const char * servicename, ...) |
| 17:44.03 | rawruw | oooooooooooooh, ok tw. thanks. |
| 17:44.07 | tw | Often, it is the name of the binary, but it can be completely different. |
| 17:44.49 | rawruw | not so much "you can call me whatever you want, baby" then. |
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| 17:45.33 | tw | Some services provide configuration options where you can change the pam service it attaches to. |
| 17:46.01 | tw | But it's determined by the binary and not init. |
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| 17:57.56 | rawruw | thanks mate |
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| 18:02.34 | fearnothing | ffs xming is shit |
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| 18:16.02 | rawruw | fearnothing: isn't that a windows thing? |
| 18:17.27 | rawruw | has worked for me when I've needed to ssh from windows. But you have to make sure X-forwarding is enabled. |
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| 18:20.25 | fearnothing | yeah but I'm trying to use it with ssh to debian, and you tell me where there's gonna be anyone who has a clue how to fix this pile of bolts |
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| 18:20.41 | fearnothing | it worked 3 weeks ago |
| 18:20.44 | fearnothing | now it's broke |
| 18:20.50 | fearnothing | I sure as hell haven't changed anything in xming |
| 18:23.05 | n4dir | if you ssh from debian, then the usual approach is to add -v or even higher verbositiy leven, and look at the logs |
| 18:23.47 | n4dir | and, of course, paste the command you used and the messages you got |
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| 18:30.49 | fearnothing | no, I ssh TO debian |
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| 18:33.09 | n4dir | Yes. |
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| 18:33.24 | n4dir | So, if using xming you can't do ssh -v ? |
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| 18:43.30 | jhutchins | fearnothing: What locale is the debian system running? |
| 18:44.39 | jhutchins | fearnothing: You can run putty from the command line with -vvv or you can connect directly with xming the same way. |
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| 18:45.55 | fearnothing | en-gb |
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| 18:46.23 | jhutchins | fearnothing: Anything special about the remote graphics/fonts? |
| 18:47.02 | fearnothing | not that i know of |
| 18:47.06 | fearnothing | like I said, they worked a month ago |
| 18:47.08 | jhutchins | I have to say I don't have any experience fixing font rendering because it's always just worked for me. |
| 18:47.29 | jhutchins | fearnothing: It's entirely possible that it's on the Windows end. |
| 18:48.04 | jhutchins | I've successfully forwarded single applications to xming, a commercial xserver, and to cygwin (as well as a VBox Linux instance). |
| 18:48.11 | n4dir | testing if it works from a linux box won't hurt. |
| 18:48.28 | jhutchins | fearnothing: You're only forwarding one application, not an entire desktop, right? |
| 18:48.35 | fearnothing | yep, just virt-manager |
| 18:48.44 | jhutchins | fearnothing: Try xclock. |
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| 18:49.09 | fearnothing | oh virt-manager launches, as does xclock |
| 18:49.17 | fearnothing | just I get a bunch of rectangles instead of letters |
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| 18:51.20 | jhutchins | fearnothing: Yeah, saw that, and you're right it's font rendering. Windows uses a different font language than Linux, they're close enough to cause problems. utf-8 vs utf-16 iirc, |
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| 18:51.59 | jhutchins | fearnothing: Depends on what you want to do, fix xming or just get it working. |
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| 18:52.16 | jhutchins | fearnothing: Which Windows? |
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| 18:55.15 | fearnothing | 10 |
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| 18:55.37 | fearnothing | so, why would it have been working fine before? |
| 18:55.54 | fearnothing | I don't care about 'fixed' |
| 18:55.59 | fearnothing | working is important |
| 18:56.07 | fearnothing | or rather |
| 18:56.12 | fearnothing | I'll take fixed if it's available |
| 18:56.16 | fearnothing | working if not :P |
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| 18:57.08 | jhutchins | Could be a windows update, VERY unlikely it's a Debian update. Stretch? |
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| 18:57.37 | jhutchins | fearnothing: are there any other text rendering applications you've tried? |
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| 18:59.44 | fearnothing | no I haven't tried anything else |
| 18:59.54 | fearnothing | mostly it's just command line stuff |
| 19:00.17 | fearnothing | this is the only graphical thing I do on linux basically |
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| 19:03.56 | jhutchins | fearnothing: Which Debian? |
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| 19:05.10 | fearnothing | jessie |
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| 19:06.35 | fearnothing | I have to go make food |
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| 19:09.34 | Soni | does debian have package mirrors? |
| 19:10.25 | Sveta | Soni: yes, always? thats what is in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:10.48 | Soni | ok |
| 19:10.53 | Soni | how do I set up my own? |
| 19:11.14 | Sveta | Soni: see https://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror |
| 19:11.43 | n4dir | bit of more info here |
| 19:11.44 | Soni | uh wait |
| 19:11.45 | n4dir | !mirror |
| 19:11.45 | dpkg | The best mirror for most users is <deb.debian.org>; other mirrors are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <httpredir.debian.org>, <debian mirror checker>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <ftpsync>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
| 19:11.47 | Soni | how does it do mirroring? |
| 19:12.09 | Soni | it doesn't use rsync? |
| 19:14.49 | jhutchins | Soni: More than one way. |
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| 19:16.04 | Soni | does it support dat? https://datproject.org/ |
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| 19:16.22 | Sveta | Soni: it uses ftpsync for mirroring |
| 19:16.42 | Sveta | Soni: although ftp was disabled recently, and i'm not sure what the script does by now really |
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| 19:40.02 | throwthecheese | How do I open an IMG file? |
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| 19:40.57 | jhutchins | throwthecheese: gimp? |
| 19:41.29 | jhutchins | throwthecheese: Imagemagick? |
| 19:41.53 | throwthecheese | I made an IMG file with ddrescue from a malfunctioning hard drive but I can't seem to open it |
| 19:41.56 | jhutchins | throwthecheese: What does file <filename> say? *nix doesn't care about the name extension. |
| 19:42.22 | throwthecheese | 0.img |
| 19:42.25 | jhutchins | throwthecheese: Not familiar with ddrescue, but if it's a disk image you mount it via loopback. |
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| 19:42.43 | jhutchins | throwthecheese: Filenames tell you nothing. |
| 19:42.48 | jhutchins | !loopback |
| 19:42.49 | dpkg | well, loopback is how you talk to yourself. "iface lo inet loopback" and "auto lo" in /etc/network/interfaces, or "ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0" from the shell. A misconfigured loopback could cause "neighbour table overflow" messages. |
| 19:43.15 | jhutchins | Hmn, we've got a factoid that says the loopback mount syntax. |
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| 19:43.43 | throwthecheese | I tried to make a loop device from it using losetup, but I couldn't mount the resulting device |
| 19:43.57 | jhutchins | throwthecheese: mount -o loop 0.img /mnt/dir |
| 19:43.58 | rakor | Is there an easy way in Evolution so set multiple identities for one IMAP-Account? I don't want to set for every alias the same smtp-settings... I'll have dead fingers until I'm finished. |
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| 19:44.14 | annadane | actually i'll take this time to ask a related question, how do you open an iso file where file gives "UDF filesystem data" |
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| 19:44.55 | annadane | i guess that's probably a question i can easily find the answer to on google |
| 19:45.29 | jhutchins | annadane: Got udftools? |
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| 19:45.41 | annadane | i don't. i guess that qualifies as an answer |
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| 19:46.18 | t0no6a | try this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/316401/how-to-mount-a-disk-image-from-the-command-line |
| 19:46.31 | annadane | cool, thanks |
| 19:46.43 | jhutchins | t0no6a: mount -o loop 0.img /mnt/dir |
| 19:47.10 | annadane | oh, sorry, were you responding to throwthecheese |
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| 19:47.20 | t0no6a | jhutchins: yes |
| 19:47.49 | jhutchins | Of course, we don't know if ddrescue did a disk image or a partition image. You might need losetup for a disk image. |
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| 19:48.10 | jhutchins | I would expect someone at the ddrescue project to have documented what to do with the output. |
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| 19:49.17 | t0no6a | annadane : I responding toyou, try that,specially fdisk and mount -o loop |
| 19:50.16 | t0no6a | responding TO YOU ja...I hate my keyboard ð
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| 19:52.12 | jhutchins | throwthecheese: If that mount command doesn't work, pastebin the error. |
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| 20:43.38 | tiwake | JPT: where are ECC memory errors logged to anyway? |
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| 20:45.41 | JPT | tiwake: I guess it may be in /var/log/messages or perhaps /var/log/kern.* if exists |
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| 20:45.58 | JPT | It's kernel output, so it may be somewhere in that area. |
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| 20:48.22 | Soni | does debian have a torrent RSS I can use? |
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| 20:56.46 | fearnothing | ooookay |
| 20:56.55 | fearnothing | this is not an xming problem then |
| 20:57.11 | fearnothing | I get the same fonts issue when ssh-ing from a linux box |
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| 21:19.28 | teraflops | fearnothing: do you remember what I told you hours ago? |
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| 21:25.45 | fearnothing | um, not unless you said it under another name? |
| 21:26.29 | fearnothing | sorry teraflops, I can't find what you said |
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| 21:31.40 | teraflops | it looks like a font issue, lacking of fonts I think, did you install/uninstall fonts recently on the debian machine? iirc virt-manager uses dejavu* fonts, tried installing several dejavu* ones till it gets fixed? |
| 21:32.46 | teraflops | fearnothing: unless you map dejavu to whatever family in your fonts configuration. I think the 2nd approach is easier |
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| 21:33.19 | teraflops | by map I mean font substitution |
| 21:35.03 | teraflops | ,v fonts-dejavu-core |
| 21:35.05 | judd | Package: fonts-dejavu-core on amd64 -- jessie: 2.34-1; buster: 2.37-1; sid: 2.37-1; stretch: 2.37-1 |
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| 21:38.04 | fearnothing | I have tried the former approach and installed all the dejavu options I can find |
| 21:38.18 | teraflops | then try sshing again |
| 21:38.32 | donald | handler are missing in my debian and makes errors at every reboot. Can I solve teh problem by configuring the bios? |
| 21:39.54 | fearnothing | yeah, didn't make a difference |
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| 21:40.05 | teraflops | hmm, installed fonts-dejavu-core? |
| 21:40.13 | fearnothing | yes |
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| 21:41.23 | teraflops | fearnothing: was virt-manager already running? |
| 21:41.28 | fearnothing | no |
| 21:41.38 | fearnothing | I also entirely reconnected ssh |
| 21:41.47 | teraflops | tried running fc-cache on the debian side? |
| 21:42.04 | teraflops | not needed most of the time, but who knows |
| 21:42.05 | fearnothing | no, haven't seen that suggested so far |
| 21:43.29 | fearnothing | no dice |
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| 21:47.08 | teraflops | it still looks youre missing fonts that's why it shows squares instead of glyphs |
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| 21:49.21 | donald | handler are missing in my debian and makes errors at every reboot. Can I solve teh problem by configuring the bios? |
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| 21:52.57 | fearnothing | reinstalled ttf-dejavu* and fonts-dejavu* |
| 21:52.59 | fearnothing | no dice |
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| 21:54.06 | fearnothing | the only thing I've done since it last worked that could be the issue is updates from apt |
| 21:54.19 | fearnothing | nothing else I've done would have messed with fonts, I'm certain of that |
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| 21:55.29 | hazzy | Hello, I have had the .xsession-errors fill up the entire free space on my SSD a couple of times lately, cause by unintentionally unplugging a USB microscope with out shutting VLC first resulting in billions of "No such device" errors |
| 21:55.43 | hazzy | Is there any way to limit the max log file size? |
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| 21:56.38 | unch41n3d | hello all |
| 21:57.08 | unch41n3d | switching to debian tonight |
| 21:57.10 | `levi | hi :) |
| 21:57.30 | RedSoxFan07 | fearnothing: Do you also use Liberation fonts? |
| 21:57.59 | fearnothing | I'm not aware of doing so |
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| 21:59.46 | `levi | unch41n3d: that's nice :) |
| 21:59.51 | unch41n3d | :) |
| 22:00.06 | `levi | going for stable? |
| 22:00.13 | unch41n3d | A bit harder than mint but we have to evolve |
| 22:00.16 | unch41n3d | yup |
| 22:01.18 | unch41n3d | do I have to enter a mirror at the install ? |
| 22:02.38 | SuperTramp83 | unch41n3d: you will be asked if u want to use one and you say yes and then choose from a grphical list.. |
| 22:02.44 | `levi | you will have to choose a mirror, the installer will give you a list |
| 22:03.33 | unch41n3d | and then I have to inform a http and port info ? or i'm wrong |
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| 22:04.14 | unch41n3d | well I will try this install that could not be so hard ^ |
| 22:04.24 | `levi | if you're not going to use a proxy, then that will be automatic |
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| 22:04.28 | SuperTramp83 | unch41n3d: the installation is very straightforwrd, don't worry, just follow simple english indtructions :) |
| 22:04.35 | `levi | unch41n3d: it's pretty easy nowadays |
| 22:04.43 | unch41n3d | :) |
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| 22:08.49 | `levi | unch41n3d: if you want more of a challenge, you could go for the text based install |
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| 22:09.06 | unch41n3d | haha |
| 22:09.11 | unch41n3d | that d be fun |
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| 22:09.44 | fearnothing | tried installing fonts-liberation*, no dice |
| 22:09.46 | unch41n3d | I first installed a amd version on intel because I had nothing other on the train |
| 22:10.09 | unch41n3d | and had no graphical interface at all when booting on it ^^ |
| 22:10.36 | unch41n3d | it is enough for me , I could not handle a text installation |
| 22:11.10 | unch41n3d | rebooting now my usb stick is ready see you guys ! |
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| 22:12.01 | `levi | unch41n3d: ahh yeah if you don't have X it's pretty boring |
| 22:12.12 | `levi | unch41n3d: see you later, have fun! |
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| 22:26.57 | Klaus_Dieter | hello world |
| 22:27.45 | RedSoxFan07 | Klaus_Dieter: Hallo Klaus! |
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| 22:28.08 | Klaus_Dieter | I am running jessie on my system and I am having trouble running an at-job as part of a udev rule. The rule fires and calls a shell script. I can see that in the log because the rule also invokes logger. Then I run at now <<< "/some/other/script" and I get: "Cannot open lockfile /var/spool/cron/atjobs/.SEQ: Read-only file system |
| 22:28.31 | Klaus_Dieter | now this seems to be rather straight forward. however the fs where /var/spool/cron/atjobs/.SEQ resides is mounted rw |
| 22:28.54 | Klaus_Dieter | also it is not the bug in packaging where .SEQ belongs to root instead of daemon |
| 22:28.59 | Klaus_Dieter | what can I try to investigat? |
| 22:29.03 | Klaus_Dieter | this is mount |grep ro |
| 22:29.50 | Klaus_Dieter | => all except cgroups is moutned rw |
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| 22:30.15 | Klaus_Dieter | /dev/sdf1 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) |
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| 22:30.27 | Klaus_Dieter | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:30.57 | Klaus_Dieter | interestingly, if I run at now <<< /some/other/script, then everything is fine. it may be an issue with the interactive console |
| 22:32.16 | Klaus_Dieter | ultimately I am hoping to automatically run a shell script that does rsync-based backups whenever I plug in my usb hdd. |
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| 22:32.46 | Klaus_Dieter | I ran my backup script with /bin/bash -l |
| 22:32.51 | Klaus_Dieter | no change. |
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| 22:42.46 | meier88 | http://www.desertofthereal.org |
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| 22:51.59 | jhutchins | Klaus_Dieter: Be sure your script has #!/bin/bash at the top and that all files and commands have the full path. Make sure the script is executable. |
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| 22:53.31 | Klaus_Dieter | jhutchins: that is the case. I am using full path and #!/bin/bash. I do not think the error is with the script but with the environemnt / atd |
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| 22:54.04 | Klaus_Dieter | I ahve only seen "Read-only file system" so far when there was actually... you know... a file system mounted ro. |
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| 22:57.24 | ahmed751995 | excuse me , why does debian stick with eclipse 3.8 ? |
| 22:57.34 | jhutchins | Klaus_Dieter: There may be another reason it can't write the file. A file with that name may already exist. You should examine the directory with ls -la and look for hiddenfiles. I would consider checking the filesystem. |
| 22:57.49 | jhutchins | ahmed751995: Stable, reliable, well tested? |
| 22:57.58 | jhutchins | ,v eclipse |
| 22:58.00 | judd | Package: eclipse on amd64 -- wheezy: 3.8.0~rc4-1; jessie: 3.8.1-7; sid: 3.8.1-8; buster: 3.8.1-10; sid: 3.8.1-10; stretch: 3.8.1-10 |
| 22:58.33 | Klaus_Dieter | the file is already there as expected by atd. it is writably by the user running atd. |
| 22:58.43 | Klaus_Dieter | the fs is fine, just checked with fsck. |
| 22:58.58 | Klaus_Dieter | /dev/sdf1 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) |
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| 22:59.07 | Klaus_Dieter | this is how it is mounted |
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| 22:59.45 | ahmed751995 | jhutchins, what about v 4.7 not even in buster or unstable |
| 23:00.15 | jhutchins | Klaus_Dieter: You might pastebin the script ( paste.debian.net ) and maybe the full output of the attempted run. It was not clear what you said happened when you ran the script directly. Might pastebin that as well. |
| 23:00.18 | Klaus_Dieter | ahmed751995: apt-get remove eclipse --- the start of many great software projects. |
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| 23:00.27 | jhutchins | ahmed751995: What about it? When was it released? |
| 23:01.20 | ahmed751995 | jhutchins, 4 months ago |
| 23:01.50 | jhutchins | Oh. Java. That's why. |
| 23:01.52 | Klaus_Dieter | jhutchins: this is the script: http://paste.debian.net/995382/ this is the error: http://paste.debian.net/995383/ |
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| 23:03.32 | ahmed751995 | jhutchins, what is wrong with java ? |
| 23:05.34 | jhutchins | ahmed751995: Much, but developers tend to maintain their own environment rather than rely on packaging for this very reason, they want the latest whiz-bang complete with all the shiney new bugs. |
| 23:07.14 | ahmed751995 | hmmmm, thanks jhutchins |
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| 23:09.25 | Klaus_Dieter | jhutchins: when running the script directly, the error message (line 3) in the log does not appear. |
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| 23:13.58 | jhutchins | Klaus_Dieter: Why are you using at? Why not just run the backup directly from the script? |
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| 23:15.14 | Klaus_Dieter | jhutchins: because udev will block for the runtime of the script. the script may move al ot of data but that takes time. I do not want to block udev for > 1 minute. |
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| 23:20.12 | MaBunny | what is a good system stats viewer for xfce |
| 23:20.26 | MaBunny | like tht in gnome, system something viewer |
| 23:20.33 | MaBunny | or something |
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| 23:20.46 | Klaus_Dieter | top |
| 23:20.53 | MaBunny | i hav htop |
| 23:21.00 | MaBunny | but i want something more |
| 23:21.04 | MaBunny | something gui |
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| 23:21.11 | Klaus_Dieter | there is a xfce process monitor |
| 23:21.12 | Unit193 | xfce4-taskmanager? |
| 23:21.20 | MaBunny | ok ill search |
| 23:21.28 | Klaus_Dieter | http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-taskmanager |
| 23:21.51 | Unit193 | Personally I just use htop, ps, kill, etc. |
| 23:22.10 | MaBunny | hmm |
| 23:22.18 | MaBunny | i hav to setup conky |
| 23:23.06 | Unit193 | I have my weather script and gcalcli in it, nothing interesting. |
| 23:23.31 | MaBunny | do you mind sharing the weather one? |
| 23:24.12 | Klaus_Dieter | hm. conky is nice but when on battery I get 1h less run-time when it is running compared to when it is not although I hardly ever see it. |
| 23:24.14 | Unit193 | I mean it's pretty awful and works best if in teh US, but sure I can. bash script. ;3 |
| 23:24.33 | MaBunny | yeah it will do |
| 23:24.42 | MaBunny | i hardly know any bash or lua :3 |
| 23:25.59 | Unit193 | https://bitbucket.org/unit193/weather even has some translations :P |
| 23:26.02 | SuperTramp83 | Klaus_Dieter: I find it consumes a lot less resources when set to update each 2 secs instead of 1, which is what I used to run it as. Have you tried that? |
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| 23:26.46 | MaBunny | thnx |
| 23:26.46 | SuperTramp83 | MaBunny: I can share my conky if you want, it's nice and simple :P |
| 23:26.56 | MaBunny | SuperTramp83: cool, do share |
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| 23:28.20 | Klaus_Dieter | SuperTramp83: good idea, let me review my config |
| 23:28.27 | SuperTramp83 | MaBunny: here u are -> https://paste.debian.net/995387/ |
| 23:28.35 | SuperTramp83 | save as .conkyrc in /home |
| 23:28.37 | Klaus_Dieter | 1.5 seconds |
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| 23:28.53 | MaBunny | thnx SuperTramp83 |
| 23:29.00 | SuperTramp83 | yw |
| 23:29.13 | SuperTramp83 | Klaus_Dieter: that's good too, better that each sec.. |
| 23:29.20 | SuperTramp83 | *than |
| 23:30.08 | Klaus_Dieter | I have conky show me my calendar and todo list on the desktop (khal / todoman) but I think I only need that updated once every couple of minutes. so going from 5s there to 10 minutes. we'll see how that fares. |
| 23:32.24 | SuperTramp83 | MaBunny: you will probably want to change the value of 'own_window_transparent', if you use transparency, I have fake transparency, in that I just set the conky to have the same background as the wallpaper, heh |
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| 23:33.24 | Wulf | Help! My gnome-shell process consumes 100% cpu. But everything appears to be working. Is that a known problem? Any fix? |
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| 23:34.11 | Wulf | never mind, I guess strace shows me something interesting |
| 23:34.38 | Klaus_Dieter | o_O open("/var/spool/cron/atjobs/.SEQ", O_WRONLY) = -1 EROFS (Read-only file system) |
| 23:34.48 | Klaus_Dieter | it is mounted RW |
| 23:35.02 | Klaus_Dieter | I just wrote to the darn file. |
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| 23:55.11 | braingain | xorg is listening on port 6000 but openness isnt visible to nmap either locally or remotely |
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| 23:56.48 | enzeperix | hello / salutare pulime |
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| 23:58.56 | enzeperix | so i have installed Debain Stretch (9.2 i think ) on a PC with i3 4th generation , 12GB RAM and a Nvidia GPU ( GT 630 i think ..) |
| 23:59.17 | enzeperix | i choosed KDE as a DE |
| 23:59.25 | enzeperix | and is buggy as shit |
| 23:59.38 | enzeperix | is flikkering like crap |
