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| 00:02.20 | xcvb | so im still unsure of stuff, so i just plugged in a third monitor, now trying to figure out how to start a second xorg |
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| 00:11.46 | garyserj | if i want to boot a debian live off usb, is this the right iso to use? debian-9.2.1-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 00:12.16 | garyserj | i tried booting off it and it said something about installing , which didn't seem right for a live os. |
| 00:12.26 | garyserj | so that suggests it wasn't the right image. |
| 00:13.13 | somiaj | that is not a live iso, that is an installer iso. It does'nt contain a live test enviorment. |
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| 00:14.53 | garyserj | what is the smallest live debian? |
| 00:15.17 | garyserj | i see this torrent is 2.4GB debian-live-9.2.0-amd64-kde.iso.torrent |
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| 00:16.19 | somiaj | what is your end goal with this image? You won't get many that are much smaller if you want a full desktop enviroment. There is a standard live iso, but it dosen't contain a graphical enviorment, but it is smaller |
| 00:16.32 | garyserj | ok i guess 2.4GB it is |
| 00:16.44 | somiaj | the lxde or xfce images will be smaller than the kde one |
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| 00:36.41 | infinity_ | someone ... i'm stumped. |
| 00:37.18 | infinity_ | hang on :) |
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| 00:49.55 | gunchyo | Nov 13 17:43:01 server systemd-logind[443]: Power key pressed. |
| 00:50.08 | gunchyo | I wasn't home when this happened. How is this possible? Nobody else was home |
| 00:51.01 | gunchyo | is this logged even when the server reboots from issuing shutdown -h or siilar? |
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| 01:22.55 | codebam | why am I getting font fragments in the atom text editor? https://ptpb.pw/qNeG.png |
| 01:23.03 | codebam | this doesn't happen in other applications |
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| 01:27.54 | aedinius | I'm using wpa-roam for wifi configuration. It works great unless I have to connect to an open wireless (i.e. hotel). It'll connect on boot usually, but I have trouble on resume from sleep. I often have to turn off and then turn on the wireless using the rfkill switch, and sometimes I have to reboot. This is using Intel 6205N |
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| 01:43.20 | wr | how can i add a static route from wlan0 to eth0? route add -net 192.168.10.1 netmask 255.255.252.0 gw 10.200.205.225 metric 1, ip route add 192.168.10.1/24 via 192.168.10.1 is this correct? |
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| 02:09.19 | RoyK | wr: you probably need to setup briding |
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| 02:10.15 | wr | RoyK, bridging is more eficient than routing in this case? |
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| 02:13.55 | RoyK | wr: you need to networks between which to route - your NICs are on the same network |
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| 02:15.36 | wr | RoyK, in this case the wlan0 is getting a connection from a fon AP to eth0 |
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| 02:18.19 | RoyK | wr: then you can't do briding with wlan0, since linux doesn't handle briding on wifi things |
| 02:18.39 | RoyK | wr: but just set the routing tables correctly and it should exit on eth0 |
| 02:18.51 | wr | RoyK, even that the wlan0 is receiving wifi outside it is on same network? or this is route |
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| 02:19.41 | RoyK | wr: two NICs on the same network without LACP or similar is asking for trouble |
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| 02:21.18 | wr | RoyK, in theory they are not same network since wifi comes from a FON AP but they use 192.168.xxx.xxx so... are they? |
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| 02:21.31 | RoyK | wr: arp/nd will be rather interesting |
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| 02:22.17 | wr | RoyK, i was doing this on raspbian but it's debian |
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| 02:52.06 | mekeor | how can i downgrade libfreetype6 package from 2.8.1-0.1 to 2.8-0.2 on buster? (i'm trying to make teamviewer run and someone says that "downgrading libfreetype6 solved it. So not version 2.8.1-0.1 but 2.8-0.2 works" on https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Linux/Teamviewer-GUI-not-starting-anymore/td-p/15693 ) |
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| 02:55.24 | abrotman | mekeor: get the package from snapshot.debian.org |
| 02:55.50 | Sveta | would `sudo apt-get install libfreetype6=2.8-0.2` work too? |
| 02:56.07 | abrotman | only if available in your soruces, which you can do with snapshot.debian.org |
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| 02:57.11 | mekeor | Sveta: apt can't find that version like that |
| 02:57.11 | mekeor | abrotman: cool, thanks, i'll try |
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| 03:15.20 | noahmg123 | How can I make alt tab automatically switch to the next window without me having to hit tab again? |
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| 03:16.49 | noahmg123 | Nevermind it appears to be working now |
| 03:16.55 | Sveta | good, i was surprised too |
| 03:17.06 | Sveta | what you described sounds like the default behaviour :p |
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| 03:32.52 | noahmg123 | Yeah |
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| 04:11.19 | annadane | means what it says |
| 04:11.24 | annadane | logs have been rotated |
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| 04:22.20 | crucify_me | hi I upgraded to stretch and my vim doesn't have much highlighting anymore. I'm using something called neovim to edit haskell. I reinstalled vim and the neovim package and still have scant features. anyone explain? thanks |
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| 05:07.28 | CrazyTux | hello, I am using Debian 9 now. I am encountering a problem. When I leave my laptop for a few minutes it goes into sleep mode. But, when I try to wake it up by pressing a key, it doesn't respond. There is a black screen. To use it again I am forced to hard reset my laptop. What could be the reason? |
| 05:07.49 | Sveta | check dmesg |
| 05:08.03 | Sveta | specify your laptop model |
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| 05:10.08 | CrazyTux | Asus X540L |
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| 06:02.00 | linurandy | hello to everyone, i've problems with my wifi, i see the other wireless LAN but i can't create a hostspot, i've debian 9 with Gnome and Network Manager, and my Broadcom Limited BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01) |
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| 06:14.46 | gaurishankar | hello |
| 06:15.13 | gaurishankar | can i upgrde debian kernel 4.9 to 4.10 |
| 06:15.20 | gaurishankar | if yes how |
| 06:15.24 | gaurishankar | please help |
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| 06:19.16 | gaurishankar | hello |
| 06:19.21 | gaurishankar | can any one help me here |
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| 06:23.35 | towo^work | gaurishankar, you can use backports, there you get kernel 4.13 |
| 06:23.58 | RoyK | gaurishankar: why do you need a new kernel? |
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| 06:24.23 | RoyK | dpkg: tell gaurishankar about backports |
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| 06:25.47 | pragomer | hi. i am thinking about reinstalling my debianstretch system for the use of btrfs instead of ext4 (for snapshot reasons). are there some big issues or disadvantadges of btrfs compared to ext4? |
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| 06:28.23 | gaurishankar | I think speed |
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| 06:29.43 | gaurishankar | ROYK, Can I directly install 4.13 |
| 06:29.46 | gaurishankar | backport |
| 06:31.29 | RoyK | gaurishankar: it probably won't help much for speed - current kernels are pretty good. Newer kernels have newer drives, though |
| 06:31.33 | RoyK | !sns |
| 06:31.33 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
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| 06:32.30 | gaurishankar | I am using debian stretch 9 with kernel 4.9 |
| 06:32.50 | gaurishankar | do u suggest upgrade to backport or so me thing else |
| 06:32.58 | RoyK | gaurishankar: I'd rather install something like sysstat and enable it, setup munin or whatever other monitoring software you fancy and check the logs/graphs over time |
| 06:33.37 | RoyK | that will tell you why your system is slow, if it's CPU, I/O or lack of memory |
| 06:34.12 | gaurishankar | how do i install sysstat in command line i n debian |
| 06:34.39 | pragomer | so btrfs will be slower, right? |
| 06:34.54 | RoyK | gaurishankar: apt install sysstat, enable it in /etc/default/sysstat |
| 06:36.04 | gaurishankar | how to enable it by default |
| 06:36.07 | RoyK | pragomer: quite possibly, because it checksums everything, but then, you gat the safety for that, but then, since btrfs isn't really stable, you may get a few interesting errors and corruption. If you want a really stable and safe filesystem, try zfs |
| 06:36.12 | RoyK | gaurishankar: just edit that file |
| 06:36.40 | gaurishankar | u mean sysstat.conf |
| 06:37.19 | RoyK | gaurishankar: /etc/default/sysstat |
| 06:37.23 | RoyK | gaurishankar: as I wrote above |
| 06:37.38 | gaurishankar | ok let me try it |
| 06:37.55 | gaurishankar | it is production server, hope it does not conq |
| 06:38.00 | RoyK | gaurishankar: you may want to look at munin too - it's easy and makes pretty graphs |
| 06:38.31 | RoyK | gaurishankar: I use sysstat on every linux machin I manage, and although it's not more than 200 of them or so, I haven't seen it cause trouble yet |
| 06:38.31 | gaurishankar | it is saying command not found |
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| 06:38.46 | RoyK | gaurishankar: sudo apt-get install sysstat |
| 06:38.54 | RoyK | apt should be there too |
| 06:39.19 | RoyK | and /etc/default/sysstat is a text file - edit it with something like nano |
| 06:39.27 | RoyK | sudo nano /etc/default/sysstat |
| 06:40.03 | RoyK | !handbook |
| 06:40.03 | dpkg | The Debian Administrator's Handbook is at http://debian-handbook.info/ and can be browsed, bought and downloaded. From Debian 7 "Wheezy" onwards, it can also be installed from the debian-handbook package. Also ask me about <books> <docs>. PDF at https://debian-handbook.info/download/stable/debian-handbook.pdf |
| 06:41.31 | gaurishankar | it is mentioned as enabled false |
| 06:41.43 | gaurishankar | shouuld i chane to true |
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| 06:42.00 | RoyK | that would help a bit, yes |
| 06:42.12 | gaurishankar | ok let me change it |
| 06:42.17 | gaurishankar | does it require boot |
| 06:42.21 | RoyK | no |
| 06:42.26 | RoyK | it runs as a cron job |
| 06:42.29 | RoyK | every 10 minutes |
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| 06:42.46 | RoyK | you can run "sar 1 10" to test it in realtime |
| 06:42.48 | gaurishankar | how do i used sysstat from command line |
| 06:42.57 | RoyK | "man sar" to get help |
| 06:43.07 | gaurishankar | ok sir |
| 06:43.25 | RoyK | gaurishankar: and after it's been running for a while, just type "sar" to see the results over time |
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| 06:45.01 | gaurishankar | it is giving error Please check if data collecting is enabled |
| 06:46.15 | strength | anybody familiar with openvpn? |
| 06:46.29 | pragomer | ok thanks folks for the hints |
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| 07:50.26 | johnjay | what does it mean a package is intended for building the debian installer only? |
| 07:50.38 | johnjay | this package clock_setup is on the dvd but i can't install it from repos |
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| 08:08.49 | RoyK | johnjay: what does it do? |
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| 08:10.21 | RoyK | johnjay: installs a nice little trojan to tap your keyboard inputs and acts like a screensaver? ;) |
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| 08:20.17 | johnjay | lol idk |
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| 08:34.48 | jelly | johnjay: udeb packages are part of the installer and do things specific for the installer. What's your goal? |
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| 08:37.26 | johnjay | jelly: I was just looking through the packages to get an idea of what all was there |
| 08:37.36 | johnjay | and I was confused when I searched that in the repos and it wasn't there |
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| 08:42.16 | crcrcr | Are there any security/antimalware software i should run once in a while? |
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| 09:18.35 | pppktz | Hi guys, Iam trying to play CS with steam on Debian and I am fcing smoe really strange issue. Has any of you experienced the following: Only if I use uttonts to move left/right I have a huge delay on my screen and with any other input, the fps is still 100 which is obviously not, I thought it is relatedt o vsynch but seems nothing to do with it, same issue if it is turned off or on. Anybody had simiar |
| 09:18.41 | pppktz | issue or could you uys give me an idea where to start solving this? |
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| 09:28.37 | SirLagz | pppktz: uttonts ? |
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| 09:29.28 | pppktz | SirLagz: sorry, buttons |
| 09:29.39 | SirLagz | pppktz: move left and right as in strafe? |
| 09:30.31 | SirLagz | pppktz: or turning? |
| 09:30.58 | pppktz | SirLagz: turning is can be performed by moving forward and moving the mouse |
| 09:31.18 | SirLagz | pppktz: just checking. Is your mouse input delayed? |
| 09:31.27 | pppktz | SirLagz: the issue is when I am pressing W(forward) and A(left) to move and try to shoot |
| 09:31.49 | SirLagz | pppktz: does moving forward by itself or moving left by itself present the same issue? |
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| 09:32.00 | SirLagz | pppktz: tried a different keyboard? |
| 09:32.02 | pppktz | SirLagz: My mouse is aRazer with 1600dpi, it had input delays but then I turned to receive input from OS and the isue was solved |
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| 09:32.27 | pppktz | SirLagz: Yes, I have tried and I have the same issue if I use VMWare for a Windows machine |
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| 09:32.42 | SirLagz | pppktz: do you have the same issue on any other games? |
| 09:33.41 | pppktz | SirLagz: This is the first time I try to play fps on Debian, maybe I have similar issues but did not recognize i |
| 09:33.49 | SirLagz | pppktz: same issue on any other source-engined games? |
| 09:34.01 | SirLagz | pppktz: try some other source-engine games, and some other non-source engine games and see how you go |
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| 09:35.03 | pppktz | SirLagz: thanks, I will check it EOD once I got home. Until that Can I ask what should I expect or what can I learn fom it? |
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| 09:35.17 | Kilniath | Morning everyone. I previously spoke to rishi and halfline about this issue and filed a bug in Debian, but where is best to get some more visibility or advice on this issue?: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=879218 |
| 09:35.18 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/879218 in gnome-online-accounts (open): «gnome-online-accounts all stop working at random»; severity: important; opened: 2017-10-20; last modified: 2017-10-20. |
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| 09:37.50 | SirLagz | pppktz: perhaps it's a CS:GO issue, or perhaps it's a source engine issue. If it affects more than one game, more likely to be a system issue |
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| 09:41.31 | pppktz | SirLagz: thanks, I will try and get back with more info later at night or tomorrow |
| 09:41.59 | SirLagz | pppktz: sounds good |
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| 09:56.08 | idk^2 | hi guys, im trying edit (netinstall) iso with preseed. Why this is not working as expected? |
| 09:56.11 | idk^2 | d-i apt-setup/local0/repository string http://mirror.vpsfree.cz/mariadb/repo/10.2/debian stretch main |
| 09:56.14 | idk^2 | d-i apt-setup/local0/key string https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xF1656F24C74CD1D8 |
| 09:56.52 | idk^2 | On installed fs is this Mariadb repository commented out in sources.list :\ |
| 09:57.21 | idk^2 | https is not supported? or its problem with pgp? |
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| 10:27.19 | hmpf1 | Hi! I'm using pbuilder to build a package. The build shows no errors. But in the final .deb files my binaries are missing. Is there a way to debug this? |
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| 10:35.37 | ocx32 | hello, my pc crashed , rebooted and now unable to go into graphical mode: https://pastebin.com/uH9R4F0R can someone help please? it was working fine!! |
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| 10:37.32 | petn-randall | hmpf1: You can ask in #debian-mentors if it's a package for Debian, or #packaging if it's not for Debian. |
| 10:38.01 | hmpf1 | petn-randall: how do i get into debian-mentors? its invite only. |
| 10:38.23 | petn-randall | !debian-mentors |
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| 10:38.37 | CuteMeOwnThroat | it is on irc.oftc.net |
| 10:38.44 | hmpf1 | petn-randall: k, thank you. |
| 10:38.55 | petn-randall | hmpf1: What CuteMeOwnThroat said, I'll have to fix the bot. |
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| 10:39.01 | CuteMeOwnThroat | petn-randall, now you made me look like a bot |
| 10:39.06 | petn-randall | Heh :) |
| 10:39.10 | CuteMeOwnThroat | I resent that |
| 10:39.21 | petn-randall | That's something a bot might say. |
| 10:39.28 | CuteMeOwnThroat | pfft |
| 10:39.45 | CuteMeOwnThroat | dpkg, test |
| 10:39.45 | dpkg | Test failed. |
| 10:39.48 | CuteMeOwnThroat | !test |
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| 10:40.07 | CuteMeOwnThroat | it's just not reacting to ! … else it's fine |
| 10:40.32 | petn-randall | No, the factoid is just missing, in those cases dpkg is just silent. |
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| 10:40.56 | CuteMeOwnThroat | or that |
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| 10:41.41 | petn-randall | !debian-mentors |
| 10:41.41 | dpkg | Find packaging help for the Debian project in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net. If the channel is invite-only it's because you missed it being on OFTC. |
| 10:41.46 | petn-randall | Fixed. ^^^ |
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| 10:43.15 | rawruw | this isn't making any sense? I have a PAM stack of identical lines "password .. pam_unix.so". The stack itself is parsed top-down twice, not once as expected. Oh lawd why? |
| 10:45.19 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 10:45.19 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 10:46.08 | petn-randall | rawruw: Try providing context to your question and your overall goal, see above for a suggestion. |
| 10:46.27 | CuteMeOwnThroat | hmpf1, don't you get output from what you're doing? Would probably be helpful to put that into paste.debian.net … you can get an interactive login to the pbuilder chroot with pbuilder login … then do whatever you think building does… see if th ebinaries are there |
| 10:47.53 | idk^2 | !debian-mentors |
| 10:47.53 | dpkg | Find packaging help for the Debian project in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net. If the channel is invite-only it's because you missed it being on OFTC. |
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| 10:49.36 | CuteMeOwnThroat | hm. that would be ok for people who read topics |
| 10:49.38 | CuteMeOwnThroat | I guess |
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| 10:54.27 | Rico | hello |
| 10:55.04 | Rico | what can be the reason for a repository to pass from prio 500 to prio 1 (saw in apt-cache policy <package>) ? |
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| 10:55.17 | Rico | I have no preferences on this repo |
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| 10:56.49 | petn-randall | Rico: Can you show us the output of 'apt-cache policy <package>' and 'apt-cache policy'? → https://paste.debian.net |
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| 11:00.57 | CuteMeOwnThroat | any suggestion for what to use to view a largeish xml file? |
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| 11:01.15 | gpunk | firefox |
| 11:01.30 | CuteMeOwnThroat | tried that… I meant… something better |
| 11:02.03 | gpunk | then check out programming IDEs... |
| 11:02.30 | CuteMeOwnThroat | in principle I first want to see the structure… then |
| 11:02.38 | Rico | petn-randall: https://paste.debian.net/995654/ |
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| 11:06.06 | petn-randall | Rico: It's because repos can give hints what pin priority have. It's coming from the xi.dovecot.fi repo itself. |
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| 11:08.07 | Rico | ok |
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| 11:21.41 | CuteMeOwnThroat | treeline looks kind of ok… only it doesn't show the tag names on the data |
| 11:21.44 | CuteMeOwnThroat | for my file |
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| 11:23.34 | CuteMeOwnThroat | hm, maybe that's just a bug… that's not too helpful, though |
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| 11:33.32 | sharax | hi |
| 11:33.37 | sharax | friends please help |
| 11:33.44 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 11:33.45 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 11:33.46 | sharax | after install debian |
| 11:33.52 | sharax | waiting for network... |
| 11:33.56 | sharax | error on display |
| 11:34.00 | petn-randall | !enter |
| 11:34.00 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 11:34.22 | petn-randall | sharax: Try describing your problem in a single message, it makes it easier to follow. |
| 11:34.48 | sharax | ok petn-randall |
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| 11:36.51 | sharax | I installed Debian And after reset, The message "Waiting for network..." is shown |
| 11:37.35 | petn-randall | sharax: Is whatever network you had configured plugged in? |
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| 11:39.10 | sharax | yea |
| 11:39.15 | sharax | installed on vps |
| 11:39.22 | n4dir | I recall problems that systemd hang for quite a while when the network cable was (for example ) not plugged. You could change the time it waits. But that is so long ago, and i never heard it again |
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| 11:39.33 | n4dir | doesn't help much, but perhaps someone else recalls details |
| 11:40.30 | crcrcr | are the ath9k packages already in the default ones? |
| 11:40.41 | sharax | petn-randall: access to debian only recovery mode |
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| 11:43.51 | sharax | Can you help? |
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| 12:04.24 | petn-randall | sharax: What VPS is that? Did you install it by hand, or are they providing their own pre-built images? |
| 12:05.17 | sharax | i use elastix last version with debian in iso file |
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| 12:06.01 | sharax | access to vps we VLC |
| 12:06.09 | sharax | VNC* |
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| 12:07.21 | petn-randall | sharax: Are you running Elastix? |
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| 12:08.07 | petn-randall | sharax: Elastix is based on CentOS. |
| 12:08.09 | sharax | i use debian-9.2.1-amd64-netinst-Elastix.iso |
| 12:08.13 | helldorado | Someone has already successfully installed Debian 9 on a HP DL360 GEN10 |
| 12:09.11 | petn-randall | helldorado: Yes, no, maybe? Ask your real question. |
| 12:09.42 | petn-randall | sharax: Ask Elastix for support, they have built those images. |
| 12:09.59 | helldorado | i'm trying to install via Debian netinstall with non-free integrated. But i alway get et black screen |
| 12:10.27 | helldorado | no more info, nothing work. Can't get any output from F4 or other console |
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| 12:10.47 | petn-randall | helldorado: Can you boot into recovery mode? |
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| 12:11.03 | helldorado | no, server not installed yet |
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| 12:14.50 | petn-randall | helldorado: Oh, the netinstaller already boots into a black screen? |
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| 12:18.59 | Kitty | Hi. When with the 4.14 LTS kernel make it's way into stable? |
| 12:19.15 | petn-randall | ,kernels |
| 12:19.16 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.14.0-rc7-686 (4.14~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.10-1); buster: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.4-2); stretch-backports: 4.13.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.13.4-2~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-4-686 (4.9.51-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.4-686 (4.9.51-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u5); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae |
| 12:19.17 | judd | (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.93-1) |
| 12:19.32 | sharax | petn-randall : They said there was a problem with debian |
| 12:19.41 | petn-randall | shrugs. |
| 12:19.46 | Kitty | yes. i got that. I'm wondering what sort of time scale for a 4.14 to make it into backports? |
| 12:19.57 | petn-randall | sharax: I wouldn't know, they built their own distro. |
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| 12:21.13 | petn-randall | Kitty: It'll take a while, first the kernel needs to land in sid, migrate to testing, then a DD needs to push it into stretch-backports. Ben is usually quite fast with that, but I'd guess ~10 days or so for it to happen. |
| 12:21.14 | sharax | Can not guide? |
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| 12:21.37 | Kitty | cool. days not weeks, that's perfect |
| 12:21.38 | Kitty | thank you |
| 12:21.45 | petn-randall | sharax: I don't know how to help you, you're not running Debian, you're running Elastix. They have a support site, try contacting them. |
| 12:22.17 | sharax | ok |
| 12:22.19 | sharax | thanks |
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| 12:22.58 | petn-randall | Kitty: Any reason you need 4.14? You could build it yourself if you need to enable hardware. |
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| 12:26.56 | Kitty | petn-randall: I'm about to ship a new server off site, and wanted to put 4.14 on it in the hope I don't have to worry about kernel's for 6 years... |
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| 12:35.41 | helldorado | petn-randall after loading the kernel and initramfs yes |
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| 12:41.19 | rawruw | latest version of debian. How do I get a "login promt" in a terminal? I want to test /pam.d/login |
| 12:41.31 | helldorado | if i check log the latest package loaded before black screen is partman-crypto_88_amd64.udeb => 1510651044|O|314625|10.10.100.72|debrep/pool/main/p/partman-crypto/partman-crypto_88_amd64.udeb |
| 12:41.34 | rawruw | without changing the tty. Can I do it via xterm? |
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| 12:53.12 | CuteMeOwnThroat | rawruw, call "login" maybe? |
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| 12:57.13 | rawruw | yes, worked |
| 12:57.14 | rawruw | thanks |
| 12:57.29 | rawruw | that command don't seem to be universal, don't work on all distributions |
| 12:57.48 | rawruw | so didn't expect it to work on debian either |
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| 12:57.58 | CuteMeOwnThroat | in what distro does it not work? |
| 12:59.19 | CuteMeOwnThroat | it's pretty clear in debian… and can be found in a deterministic way if one isn't sure that's what's working… /etc/inittab says what's being spawned is sbin/getty… and man getty says that it's calling login |
| 12:59.38 | CuteMeOwnThroat | but I would think that's fairly universal |
| 13:00.15 | rawruw | rhel/arch |
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| 13:00.32 | rawruw | rhel just reboots the desktop or something. arch does nothing |
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| 13:01.10 | rubas | Hi, I was wondering how much people actually learn new technologies at IT companies? Are you getting time to research / tryout and explore technologies? |
| 13:01.35 | rubas | Or are you stuck with the same technologies, out of uni/school? |
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| 13:02.05 | dTal | kind of a weird question for #debian |
| 13:02.17 | xand | rubas: gonna depend where you work, but you should always learn new stuff... |
| 13:02.25 | rubas | Right now I feel like, I need to do stuff in new technologies, but with no time to research/tryout/explore these technologies. |
| 13:02.54 | rubas | sorry, I didn't know where to ask dTal |
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| 13:07.59 | CuteMeOwnThroat | rawruw, curious |
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| 13:10.02 | CuteMeOwnThroat | rawruw, I think they're totally different versions of login… the one in rhel is from util-linux, while the one in debian seems is not |
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| 13:15.02 | SwK | trying to figure out a good way to pxe boot the installer and then have it auto request a preseed file by mac on stretch any one have a hint on doing this or a pointer to some docs that explain this sorta setup, all the docs I have found so far are clear as mud |
| 13:15.47 | petn-randall | Kitty: There are still security updates every few weeks. |
| 13:16.06 | iodev | petn-randall: good you reminded me, let me see |
| 13:16.23 | petn-randall | Kitty: If you don't plan an applying any patches, the one shipped in stable is as good as any. |
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| 13:16.54 | Kitty | I just liked the idea of a lts kernel with 6 year life |
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| 13:18.52 | iodev | Kitty: keeping a kernel for 6 years is kinda a bad idea |
| 13:18.55 | iodev | feature-wise |
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| 13:20.34 | petn-randall | iodev: feature-wise? |
| 13:21.05 | iodev | petn-randall: well, maybe an old kernel will get security patches, but it won't get support for new hardware |
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| 13:21.26 | iodev | (that's what I mean by feature-wise, it'll become obsolete by the small things :D) |
| 13:21.37 | CuteMeOwnThroat | rawruw, oh, the rhel one's manpage says: A recursive login, [...] no longer works; [...] su(1) is a satisfactory substitute. Indeed, for security reasons, login does a vhangup() system call to remove any possible listening processes on the tty. This is to avoid password sniffing. If one uses the command login, then the surrounding shell gets killed by vhangup() because it's no longer the true owner of the tty. This can be avoided by |
| 13:21.37 | CuteMeOwnThroat | using exec login in a top-level shell or xterm. |
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| 13:22.31 | petn-randall | iodev: That's irrelevant if you're running it on the same piece of hardware. |
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| 13:22.54 | iodev | petn-randall: right, right |
| 13:23.28 | iodev | but chances are as end-user running on desktop, not server, some hardware won't work so well, till kernel upgrades |
| 13:23.44 | CuteMeOwnThroat | rawruw, while the debian one just plainly refuses to work for non-root users… |
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| 13:25.23 | CuteMeOwnThroat | that may as be… |
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| 13:27.03 | tw | iodev: for that, there's backports. |
| 13:27.09 | rawruw | CuteMeOwnThroat: oh, okay. thanks! |
| 13:27.12 | SwK | I can attest to the problems with old kernels... they usually work just fine until they dont. |
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| 13:27.25 | iodev | tw: ahh, I didn't know kernel had backports :D |
| 13:27.28 | SwK | then you figure out its missing some feature you require lol |
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| 13:28.11 | CuteMeOwnThroat | you're personally using kernel features? (other than hardware support?) |
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| 13:29.11 | SwK | CuteMeOwnThroat yeah I'm one of the FreeSWITCH Devs... so we've ran into things like timer issues where older kernels didnt support high res timers due to them just not being in the older kernels |
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| 13:30.04 | Kitty | iodev: if the hardware doesn't change, surely that's not an issue |
| 13:30.05 | SwK | something about really wanting good highres timers when you are mucking around with realtime audio and video in 20ms frames |
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| 13:31.03 | iodev | Kitty: okay, I guess so |
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| 13:40.50 | hmpf1 | CuteMeOwnThroat: Thank you for the idea. It ended up being a typo. the package names in the control file where not exactly like the one in the .install files. #packaging helped. |
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| 13:42.35 | rgr | I know its testing but I'm desperate : gnome desktop. no gnome settings dialog is appearing. help! selecting it from the gnome panel drop down. Nothing appears. |
| 13:44.24 | petn-randall | rgr: Have you tried asking in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net? There all the testing/sid users hang out. |
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| 13:51.54 | yosemitesam1 | We have a debian server in our company which keeps starting into recovery mode when we try to start it normally. How is it that it starts into recovery mode even if i choose the normal kernel in grub? Does this happen automatically when e.g. a kernel module doesn't work properly or something like that? |
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| 13:58.07 | petn-randall | yosemitesam1: Normally not. Does it default to recovery mode in grub? |
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| 14:01.39 | yosemitesam1 | petn-randall: No it doesn't. And I even tried to start via advanced -> *chosing the normal startup*. We have 2 kernels installed and I tried both, it keeps starting into recovery mode... |
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| 14:05.06 | petn-randall | yosemitesam1: Do you get any error messages in the backlog? |
| 14:06.41 | e-anima | hi. my phpmyadmin upgrade from 8 to 9 failed. its not important i want to reinstall it. so should i purge it with apt the current one or is there a better way? |
| 14:07.06 | gpunk | yes that is a way |
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| 14:08.41 | petn-randall | e-anima: Depends on what error you get on upgrade. |
| 14:09.17 | e-anima | it said it cant find the phpmyadmin database. so i tried reinstalling it. but now my apache is down |
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| 14:11.30 | rr | was the db moved somewhere else, or the chmod value has changed? |
| 14:11.37 | petn-randall | e-anima: Can you show us the complete output of 'apt-get upgrade' or what you exactly ran? → https://paste.debian.net |
| 14:11.49 | e-anima | didnt save it |
| 14:11.58 | petn-randall | e-anima: Try running it again. |
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| 14:14.11 | e-anima | what would be the best way to get the package maintainers config files. i need to compare them. i know i can download all packages and extract them but that doesnt sound right |
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| 14:18.27 | petn-randall | e-anima: There's a way, but it assumes you still have a consistent package state (which you apparently don't have). |
| 14:18.31 | petn-randall | !confmiss |
| 14:18.31 | dpkg | You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>. |
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| 14:18.49 | e-anima | well i selected to use my own existing config |
| 14:18.59 | e-anima | thats why |
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| 14:19.25 | e-anima | maybe that is the wrong way. maybe i shoudl install the default and then merge my stuff |
| 14:19.43 | yosemitesam1 | petn-randall: We had issues with a pci-scsi card causing a kernel panic, which I thought was the reason it kept starting into recovery. I took it out but the start to recovery persists. There's also a gpu kernel error, but according to my coworker this error was already there when the system could boot up normally. |
| 14:20.06 | petn-randall | e-anima: Or you could just show us the errors you get, it might save you time jumping through hoops. |
| 14:20.51 | e-anima | currently that one: PHP Fatal error: Undefined class constant 'MYSQL_ATTR_USE_BUFFERED_QUERY' |
| 14:21.09 | e-anima | i guess i have something configured wrong now because of the mariadb update in 9 |
| 14:21.13 | petn-randall | e-anima: I specifically asked for the apt errors you're getting. |
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| 14:21.52 | gpunk | did you install "php_mysql" ? |
| 14:21.54 | e-anima | that was only phpmyadmin, that doesnt matter now. whole server is down so phpyadmin is totally unimportant |
| 14:22.18 | gpunk | lol, i guess you did |
| 14:22.36 | petn-randall | yosemitesam1: Can you screenshot the recovery prompt? |
| 14:22.58 | petn-randall | yosemitesam1: You can use picpaste.com to share it. |
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| 14:28.11 | rgr | yeah I did. there's never anyone there. |
| 14:28.55 | maxxe | backports for firefox quantum? |
| 14:28.56 | rgr | I dont seem to have gnome-control-center |
| 14:29.03 | maxxe | (on stable) |
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| 14:30.32 | yosemitesam1 | petn-randall: http://picpaste.com/6jZeqjHH.jpg |
| 14:31.38 | yosemitesam1 | petn-randall: you see also a mount fail which i doubt has any imapct and after leaving it open with nothing for some time, the error you see below the message "...or type Control-D..." randomly popped up |
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| 14:32.20 | checkbr | hello, i have problem with debian 9 |
| 14:32.30 | checkbr | just installed it and tryed to install git |
| 14:32.52 | checkbr | it stops to intall git when trying to setup rsync |
| 14:33.02 | e-anima | "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" that does only upgrade the main config i guess. the sample file of 000-default.conf is not touched at all i guess? |
| 14:33.05 | yosemitesam1 | petn-randall: haven't seen this EDID checksum error before. And actually I thought the 'sendbytes: NAK bailout' would've been gone by removing the scsi card =O |
| 14:33.11 | checkbr | Setting up rsync (3.1.2-1) ... |
| 14:33.12 | checkbr | Failed to reload daemon: Connection timed out |
| 14:33.25 | babilen | checkbr: Please show us on http://paste.debian.net |
| 14:33.31 | babilen | dpkg: bat |
| 14:33.31 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 14:33.35 | babilen | checkbr: And include ^ |
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| 14:36.18 | checkbr | http://paste.debian.net/995686/ |
| 14:37.13 | checkbr | got answer from systemctl |
| 14:37.14 | checkbr | http://paste.debian.net/995687/ |
| 14:37.16 | yosemitesam1 | petn-randall: I guess the Error with the EDID checksum is because the server is in a rack and we have an old KVM switch |
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| 14:37.59 | petn-randall | yosemitesam1: It's failing because /mnt/so1net/... can't be mounted. |
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| 14:40.09 | yosemitesam1 | petn-randall: so this causes it to go into recovery? =S Didn't think that could be the reason! I gonna remove this from the fstab, as it is an old outdated entry.. |
| 14:41.08 | petn-randall | yosemitesam1: Pretty much, it also comes with a red FAILED in all caps. :) |
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| 14:45.39 | yosemitesam1 | petn-randall: yeah thats true. But I had this error on my local machine (which is arch linux) for almost a year after my NAS broke.. thats why I never really thought about that error |
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| 14:48.44 | petn-randall | yosemitesam1: You /can/ set it in fstab to ignore those errors, but by default any failed mount in /etc/fstab is fatal. |
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| 14:50.13 | jelly | ... with systemd. |
| 14:50.20 | jelly | ... on Debian. |
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| 14:50.50 | jelly | it's less fatal with sysvinit |
| 14:50.54 | petn-randall | :) |
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| 14:53.55 | yosemitesam1 | petn-randall: Well... Shame on me.. It works now! Thanks a lot for your help! |
| 14:54.44 | petn-randall | yosemitesam1: You're welcome! Glad I could help. |
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| 14:55.28 | CrazyTux | hello |
| 14:55.39 | CrazyTux | what could be the issue? |
| 14:55.40 | e-anima | hello |
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| 15:00.52 | e-anima | ok i am totally busted, searching teh error takes more time that anything. i could purge apache2 and php and reinstall all to have a clean base. i guess that is an idea |
| 15:01.13 | e-anima | i remove purge it all |
| 15:01.30 | e-anima | or is a reinstall better? |
| 15:01.31 | petn-randall | e-anima: ... or, you know, you could show us the actual logs I've been asking for. |
| 15:01.48 | e-anima | i cant repeat an update i already run. how shoudl i do that? |
| 15:02.13 | RoyK | e-anima: I guess the best thing to do is to fix the error - that way you may even learn something :) |
| 15:02.27 | RoyK | e-anima: "apache2ctl configtest" is a good start |
| 15:02.34 | e-anima | yes the problem is the error is pointing to "you have not instalöled mysql_pdo" |
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| 15:02.48 | RoyK | then install it |
| 15:03.15 | e-anima | actually i did that with apt-get install php7.0-mysql and phpenmod |
| 15:03.48 | petn-randall | e-anima: So 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and also 'dpkg --configure -a' returns what exactly? |
| 15:04.12 | CrazyTux | hello, I am using Debian 9.2 xfce. The Suspend function is not working in Xfce. I have installed Cinnamon and KDE also on it and don't have any problem in Suspending and resuming after that while using those DEs. What could be the issue here? |
| 15:04.35 | e-anima | dist upgrade: https://paste.debian.net/995691/ |
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| 15:04.51 | e-anima | dpkg --configure -a returns nothing at all |
| 15:04.51 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, e-anima |
| 15:04.56 | RoyK | e-anima: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32728860/php-7-rc3-how-to-install-missing-mysql-pdo |
| 15:05.07 | RoyK | e-anima: seems it needs to be enabled manually |
| 15:05.25 | RoyK | e-anima: not sure, though, never used that |
| 15:05.33 | e-anima | yes like this: sudo phpenmod pdo_mysql |
| 15:05.35 | e-anima | i did that |
| 15:05.36 | petn-randall | e-anima: Ok, then your apt upgrade didn't fail, and you don't have an apt issue. It's just the config that's broken. |
| 15:05.56 | e-anima | petn-randall, yes tthat is what i guessed |
| 15:06.11 | RoyK | e-anima: but then - learn to fix it |
| 15:06.15 | petn-randall | e-anima: Start by showing us actual logs that show that phpmyadmin is broken. Not just a single log line, but the ~50 lines around it, too. |
| 15:06.17 | RoyK | e-anima: don't just reinstall everything |
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| 15:06.30 | e-anima | petn-randall, that was the fulkl oztput |
| 15:06.36 | CrazyTux | any solutions? |
| 15:06.37 | e-anima | i purged phpmyadmin already |
| 15:06.48 | e-anima | first the base has t owork |
| 15:06.59 | petn-randall | e-anima: Then there are no problems? |
| 15:07.12 | e-anima | not with upgrade no more |
| 15:07.24 | petn-randall | CrazyTux: What does "doesn't work" mean exactly? What happens if you click on suspend? |
| 15:07.39 | petn-randall | e-anima: What remaining problem are there then? |
| 15:08.28 | lroe | does anyone know if there is a way to tab complete systemctl commands in bash? |
| 15:08.34 | CrazyTux | petn-randall, I can't resume after Suspending it while using xfce. The screen is black when I try to resume it. |
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| 15:09.06 | CrazyTux | I have installed Debian 9.2 xfce and have installed Cinnamon and KDE Plasma on it. |
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| 15:09.49 | petn-randall | CrazyTux: Do you have a blinking cursor on resume? Can you switch terminals with ctrl + alt + F1? |
| 15:10.17 | e-anima | that php/apache thinks there is no mysql_pdo enabled i will now put that manually to the php.ini but that dint work either. Error is: PHP Fatal error: Undefined class constant 'MYSQL_ATTR_USE_BUFFERED_QUERY'. I googled that already |
| 15:10.32 | e-anima | all is pointing to "not having mysql_pdo" installed |
| 15:10.39 | CrazyTux | I think I have blinking cursor. Haven't tried ctrl+alt+F1. |
| 15:10.57 | ikonia | CrazyTux: what happened to 1 desktop as you said you where going to do the other day |
| 15:11.03 | ikonia | xfce as that's what you used and what you could support |
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| 15:11.41 | CrazyTux | ikonia, I still am using Debian 9. Haven't changed the distro. |
| 15:11.59 | ikonia | no but you have multiple desktops on it again, which you've proven to be unable to manage inthe past |
| 15:12.43 | CrazyTux | is that a wrong thing to do? |
| 15:13.00 | ikonia | no, but as you've proven in the past, you personally are unable to manage this and it gets you into a problem situation |
| 15:13.10 | ikonia | this is why you have been advised mutliple times to stick with one desktop |
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| 15:14.30 | CrazyTux | ikonia, ok. I will stick to one. Please suggest a solution then. |
| 15:14.48 | e-anima | i have no ideas no more. i tried everything i know. googled 2 hours. wouldnt a clean reinstall of the confis not be a good idea? |
| 15:14.48 | CrazyTux | the installed OS is Debian 9.2 with Xfce. |
| 15:15.03 | e-anima | i cant do more than read the apache error log |
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| 15:16.31 | checkbr | Hello, just installed server |
| 15:16.32 | checkbr | http://paste.debian.net/995695/ |
| 15:16.51 | checkbr | kworker/8:0 eats 100% cpu via top |
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| 15:17.12 | checkbr | but in idle i can see 99% |
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| 15:21.06 | CrazyTux | hello, sorry there was a disconnection. |
| 15:21.14 | CrazyTux | please suggest a solution. |
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| 15:22.33 | tw | How long do you wait after resuming? |
| 15:23.05 | petn-randall | CrazyTux: For me in xfce4 I tap the escape key to bring up the screenlock, by default it's just black. |
| 15:23.29 | CrazyTux | yes |
| 15:23.42 | CrazyTux | how can I resume after suspending it? |
| 15:23.55 | petn-randall | CrazyTux: Did tapping the escape key fix it for you? |
| 15:24.10 | CrazyTux | petn-randall, no. It didn't work. |
| 15:24.18 | CrazyTux | but, let me try again. |
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| 15:25.03 | petn-randall | checkbr: Can you show us the output of top? |
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| 15:27.15 | petn-randall | e-anima: If you want actual help from the channel, start pasting the actual errors you're getting in a single paste. |
| 15:28.34 | e-anima | ok. but i think it could be solved by just reinatllin gall packages and then merging my changes. but i have problems doing that the right way |
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| 15:29.06 | petn-randall | shrugs. |
| 15:29.32 | e-anima | yes wait a second. sadly i have never achived to make a single debina upgrade wherefter the apache stil lworks :( |
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| 15:29.46 | petn-randall | e-anima: You could also try applying snake oil. Might be just as effective. |
| 15:29.55 | CrazyTux | petn-randall, no. It doesn't work |
| 15:30.03 | e-anima | lol |
| 15:30.07 | e-anima | wait i check the errors |
| 15:30.12 | CrazyTux | I had to hard reset it. |
| 15:30.51 | CrazyTux | now I am on Cinnamon DE. |
| 15:31.07 | petn-randall | CrazyTux: That's unfortunate. Just to verify, you're talking about suspend, not hibernate, right? |
| 15:31.08 | tw | CrazyTux: it's most likely a device that poorly supports suspend/resume. |
| 15:31.37 | CrazyTux | I think Xfce has that problem. Anybody here using Xfce and has the same problem? Yes. I am talking about Suspend. |
| 15:31.55 | e-anima | petn-randall, so its not abou the upgrade. so what do you wnat me to paste? i can paste the apache error.log, any other things i shoudl post? |
| 15:32.12 | CrazyTux | when I am not near my laptop, when it suspends automatically, everytime I am forced to hard reset it. |
| 15:32.24 | CrazyTux | that is really annoying. |
| 15:33.05 | e-anima | i have no idea what i have to post here. i am really desperate to understand waht you actually want me to post |
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| 15:33.56 | Sepultura | Hallo |
| 15:34.01 | tw | CrazyTux: does it resume from hibernate? Because if hibernate works, I would just turn off suspend. |
| 15:34.06 | Sepultura | do you get the error with evince.desktop too? |
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| 15:35.05 | CrazyTux | tw, haven't tried that. But, I don't face such a difficulty in resuming after suspend on other DEs like Cinnamon and Plasma. |
| 15:35.20 | tw | Oh? That's surprising. |
| 15:35.28 | tw | On the same debian install? |
| 15:35.44 | petn-randall | e-anima: Until know you're only told us about a single error line, and that apache/php "doesn't work". Tell us *what* you did, what you expected, and what you got instead. |
| 15:36.00 | e-anima | ok wait i paste the whole log |
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| 15:36.35 | petn-randall | e-anima: apache/php doesn't run stand-alone, there's usually an actual application you're trying to run. So if something fails, show us the relevant logs, too. |
| 15:36.46 | tw | CrazyTux: but ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't do anything? |
| 15:36.48 | e-anima | apache and php |
| 15:37.15 | CrazyTux | It shows something like ssh. |
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| 15:38.18 | e-anima | https://paste.debian.net/995705/ log is the same over and over again. i also added the mysql log |
| 15:38.20 | e-anima | https://paste.debian.net/995706/ |
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| 15:40.01 | e-anima | something more? |
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| 15:40.51 | tw | CrazyTux: I guess log in and try DISPLAY=:0 xset dpms force on |
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| 15:41.16 | tw | CrazyTux: then alt-f7 or whatever vterm sessions use these days. |
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| 15:41.47 | petn-randall | e-anima: Looks like your mysql server is running fine. Does 'systemctl status mariadb' show the same? |
| 15:42.31 | CrazyTux | tw, ok |
| 15:43.09 | e-anima | yes it does: https://paste.debian.net/995708/ |
| 15:44.43 | tw | e-anima: do you have pdo_mysql installed? |
| 15:45.22 | e-anima | php says yes: https://paste.debian.net/995710/ |
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| 15:46.48 | e-anima | iam not so sure if the apache directory is right. i have folder there like /etc/apache2/mods-enabled has php5.conf hmm |
| 15:47.31 | petn-randall | e-anima: What PHP application is in /var/www/texturecase3? |
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| 15:47.46 | e-anima | it is a drupal cms |
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| 15:48.07 | petn-randall | e-anima: I'd check their documentation which packages it needs on a Debian system. |
| 15:48.28 | e-anima | did that. saidy exactly mysql_pdo. googled the forums also |
| 15:49.04 | e-anima | the interesting thing is it only drops that error when i go through http. if i go into the shell and clear the cache of the application nothing happens all ok |
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| 15:49.22 | tw | php cli doesn't use the same configs as php-fpm or mod_php, might want to check phpinfo() to see if pdo_mysql is available there as well. |
| 15:49.26 | e-anima | i am not pretty sure that i achived again to relly screw up the install |
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| 15:50.13 | e-anima | so wouldnt a reintsall be a better idea now? |
| 15:50.44 | petn-randall | e-anima: Sure, reinstall if that makes you feel better. Not sure what that would achieve, though. |
| 15:50.49 | e-anima | that updgrade stuff takes so much time and produces so many error sthat i already thinkin gabout closing the server and the website |
| 15:51.17 | petn-randall | e-anima: You can always just restore backups and use the thing before upgrading. |
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| 15:51.25 | e-anima | not with such a big roo tserver |
| 15:51.37 | e-anima | that is remote ssh. |
| 15:51.57 | e-anima | well i guess i dont have enough time to get on the level i need for that |
| 15:52.20 | e-anima | maybe i shoudl just buy a amanged server |
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| 15:52.50 | e-anima | or close that site |
| 15:52.59 | JustASlacker | e-anima: https://uvensys.de/ :P |
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| 15:53.36 | e-anima | looks good. but i run a big basically free image site. so no big budget |
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| 15:53.53 | e-anima | the only thing i have is 2-3 days a year fixing problems when i try to update every time |
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| 15:54.04 | yuriescl | After executing "apt-get install [package]" there are a few messages like "package1: Depends package2 but it's not going to be installed". And after searching the web it looks like "apt-get -f install" fixes the problem. May I ask what is happening is this scenario? Why does "apt-get -f install" fixes this issue and what was the issue in the first place? Thanks. |
| 15:54.09 | e-anima | as i am not a fulltime linux sys admin i well...i am not so fond with it |
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| 15:55.15 | e-anima | as you see i end up totally busted wit herrors where teh logs are not helping me |
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| 15:57.01 | JustASlacker | you could also take a look at uberspace.de |
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| 15:57.28 | JustASlacker | they are not expensive and have good documentation |
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| 15:57.40 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 15:57.41 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 15:57.50 | JustASlacker | https://wiki.uberspace.de/ |
| 15:57.51 | petn-randall | yuriescl: Can you provide *all* the info above in a single paste? ^^^ |
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| 15:59.08 | e-anima | ok the config files are still there. then i did sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 |
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| 16:01.26 | petn-randall | e-anima: You have backups of that config? |
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| 16:02.25 | e-anima | yes i have. |
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| 16:03.24 | yuriescl | petn-randall, alright I read a few StackOverflow and ServerFault answers and it's pretty much a automatic dependency problem, and apt refuses to 'guess' the correct dependency. That's a good explanation for me already, but yeah thanks :) |
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| 16:04.03 | petn-randall | yuriescl: It's a sign for a severely broken system, which is why I asked for the relevant logs. |
| 16:04.24 | petn-randall | yuriescl: This should never happen on a Debian stable installation. |
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| 16:04.37 | yuriescl | petn-randall, my apt is in portuguese, it's terrible for pasting because everything is in portuguese haha |
| 16:04.54 | yuriescl | petn-randall, okay I'll take a look into it (it's an old system) |
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| 16:05.43 | petn-randall | !localized errors |
| 16:05.44 | dpkg | To provide command output in English instead of your native language, set your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install". |
| 16:05.47 | petn-randall | yuriescl: ^^^ |
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| 16:06.13 | rook71 | Good morning. I'm unable to install Debian stable. None of the live packages work on my machine... |
| 16:07.19 | jhutchins_wk | rook71: Known issue. Use a netinstall image. |
| 16:07.21 | rook71 | Oops just read the thing about Newcomers. Im sorry |
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| 16:07.42 | rook71 | Thanks jhutchins ;-) |
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| 16:09.07 | RedSoxFan07 | Anybody else get the email from the FSF? |
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| 16:09.56 | petn-randall | RedSoxFan07: You might want #debian-offtopic? |
| 16:10.12 | RedSoxFan07 | petn-randall: True |
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| 16:19.20 | e-anima | ok i got it. i am no tsure what the update did but nwo i enabled php7.0 manually and now everythin gworks |
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| 16:26.46 | petn-randall | e-anima: Congrats. |
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| 16:27.32 | e-anima | thank you |
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| 16:27.52 | e-anima | i think i had mixed php versions. maybe i had php5 and 7 enabled or something |
| 16:27.57 | e-anima | just a guess |
| 16:28.13 | e-anima | thank you for you help so far |
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| 16:49.52 | e-anima | it is really weird. debian/apache is also trying to load old php modules on startup: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php/20151012/pdo_mysql.so' - /usr/lib/php/20151012/pdo_mysql.so |
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| 16:50.07 | e-anima | i guess updating the php versio nwasnt a no brainer |
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| 16:57.33 | scoopex | i build packages from github using travisci, does anybody know a good package-source-as-a-service (apt, yum, zypper) provider or a piece of software which can be run with very low maintenance for my rootserver system? |
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| 16:59.31 | strength | ii |
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| 17:02.48 | e-anima | now i only have a php load error: https://paste.debian.net/995730/ i actually do not load these files in my ini so i dont get what he is doing here |
| 17:03.03 | e-anima | maybe i still have an old php5 package somehwere |
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| 17:03.36 | e-anima | ok yes i have |
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| 17:09.34 | dixie7z__ | hi all.... i have a problem with boot into new kernet after upgrade dist-upgrade... it says [FAILED] failed to start Light Display... google says something but for Arch Linux... here are syslog and messages |
| 17:09.43 | dixie7z__ | www.mediafire.com/file/9dwoc6f5r99gdxg/syslog |
| 17:09.52 | dixie7z__ | www.mediafire.com/file/t59ctyflywyb1x5/messages |
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| 17:14.59 | dixie7z__ | Light Display Manager is in question... i dont understand that logs :\ |
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| 17:15.38 | e-anima | sorry i am not familiar with that |
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| 17:17.21 | mtn | dixie7z__: if you want to paste something, please use http://paste.debian.net |
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| 17:20.26 | dixie7z__ | mnemonic, mousepad didnt want to open the file.. so i used nano... i dont know how to scroll and c/p everything with nano |
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| 17:20.39 | ohlolz | can anyone recommended me a DUAL-band WIFI adapter that works well, easy to get the drivers online for kernel 14.13? |
| 17:20.56 | e-anima | ok thai is interesting. does the debian php7_moduel already have pdo integrated? because it is also loaded with a symlink in /etc/php/7.0/apache2/conf.d |
| 17:21.44 | RedSoxFan07 | ohlolz: PCIe or USB? |
| 17:22.03 | ohlolz | RedSoxFan07: usb |
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| 17:23.28 | RedSoxFan07 | ohlolz: Your best bet would be Technoethical.com. But I believe Atheros is a good choice. |
| 17:23.39 | mtn | ohlolz: I think dlink dwa-140 would work well |
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| 17:24.12 | RedSoxFan07 | https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Wireless-Adapter-Support-TL-WN821N/dp/B002T4D3M2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510680229&sr=8-1&keywords=atheros+usb+2.0+wireless+network+adapter&dpID=31rfi2oUL1L&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch |
| 17:24.31 | RedSoxFan07 | ohlolz: If you don't mind my asking, is this for a desktop or a laptop? |
| 17:24.55 | ohlolz | RedSoxFan07: all-in-one pc |
| 17:25.11 | RedSoxFan07 | ohlolz: Do you have a spare PCIe slot? |
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| 17:26.00 | ohlolz | RedSoxFan07: idual band is 802.11 AC |
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| 17:26.14 | ohlolz | noy 802.11 N |
| 17:26.19 | ohlolz | not 802.11 N |
| 17:26.38 | RedSoxFan07 | ohlolz: Okay. |
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| 17:29.23 | ohlolz | do you guys only conneci via Ethernet or somthing |
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| 17:30.24 | Menelkir | I use an AR9271 802.11n adapter |
| 17:30.47 | Menelkir | in my desktop, my notebook have an ac, but I dont need much more than that on my desktop tbh |
| 17:31.07 | ohlolz | Menelkir: max wifi speed? |
| 17:31.38 | RedSoxFan07 | ohlolz: For speed and clutter-reduction, I'd recommend an adapter that uses PCIe instead of USB. |
| 17:31.40 | Menelkir | never measured heavily |
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| 17:33.38 | RedSoxFan07 | ohlolz: This one looks good: https://www.amazon.com/Fenvi-Desktop-2-4Ghz-300Mbps-5Ghz-1300Mbps-Wireless/dp/B0734FNBW8/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1510680781&sr=1-1&keywords=802.11+ac+pcie+linux |
| 17:33.41 | Menelkir | probably even a pci one will be better than using an usb |
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| 17:36.30 | RedSoxFan07 | Menelkir: That's what I've been saying. |
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| 17:37.24 | Menelkir | I mean pci32, unless you need high speed, so afaik, only pci-e and usb3 are available for high speeds |
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| 17:39.51 | RedSoxFan07 | Menelkir: I'm pretty sure all wireless cards use 4 PCIe lanes, not 32. |
| 17:40.37 | jhutchins_wk | ,kernels |
| 17:40.38 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.14.0-rc7-686 (4.14~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.10-1); buster: 4.13.0-1-686 (4.13.4-2); stretch-backports: 4.13.0-0.bpo.1-686 (4.13.4-2~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.9.0-4-686 (4.9.51-1); jessie-backports: 4.9.0-0.bpo.4-686 (4.9.51-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.43-2+deb8u5); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae |
| 17:40.39 | judd | (3.16.39-1+deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.93-1) |
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| 17:41.01 | Menelkir | RedSoxFan07: theres some pci32 N cards |
| 17:41.24 | RedSoxFan07 | Menelkir: Do you mean 32-lane 802.11n cards? |
| 17:41.32 | Menelkir | nah, pci32, the old pci slot |
| 17:42.10 | Menelkir | pci5V |
| 17:42.32 | RedSoxFan07 | Menelkir: Oh, okay. |
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| 17:42.38 | Menelkir | I mean that if you just need connectivity, theres cheap ones that arent that bad |
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| 17:43.09 | RedSoxFan07 | Menelkir: How old is your motherboard that it still has pci32? |
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| 17:46.24 | RedSoxFan07 | ohlolz: This one is plug-and-play: https://www.amazon.com/USB-AC68-Dual-Band-AC1900-Adapter-Included/dp/B01I7QFR10/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1510681448&sr=8-9&keywords=wifi+adapter+usb+3.0 |
| 17:46.32 | RedSoxFan07 | Also looks pretty nifty. |
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| 17:51.17 | RedSoxFan07 | ohlolz: But I still think this Fenvi one is your best bet, and it works without having to install drivers. Though, the commenter who mentioned that said it works in Ubuntu without installing drivers, so it should work in Debian without drivers, but I don't know. The drivers may or may not be non-free. I don't care if the driver is non-free, but some Linux users do. |
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| 17:52.34 | ohlolz | RedSoxFan07: i'm risking too much. i just read in forum that 802.11ac is still in baby diapiers on linux |
| 17:52.49 | ohlolz | it kinda sucks |
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| 17:53.49 | RedSoxFan07 | ohlolz: Gonna go with 802.11n? |
| 17:54.29 | ohlolz | RedSoxFan07: i'm in 802.11n since long time ago. but my router is dual band 802.11ac. |
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| 17:54.56 | RedSoxFan07 | ohlolz: Okay. |
| 17:55.13 | RedSoxFan07 | ohlolz: Gonna wait on 802.11ac until it matures on Linux? |
| 17:55.57 | ohlolz | RedSoxFan07: sure. always loyal. |
| 17:56.11 | GJdan | Does it seem reasonable to follow this guide, but on Debian 9? https://www.sylvaindurand.org/php-5-2-on-debian-7-wheezy/ |
| 17:56.22 | GJdan | bsaically I need php5.2 for a legacy project |
| 17:57.03 | RedSoxFan07 | GJdan: I have no idea. |
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| 17:57.30 | RedSoxFan07 | GJdan: How many lines does that legacy project have? How long would it take to bring into compliance with the newest version of PHP? |
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| 18:01.00 | RedSoxFan07 | GJdan: Are you on Stretch or Buster? I found a couple of tutorials for installing PHP 5.3 on Stretch, but not PHP 5.2. Are there many differences between 5.2 and 5.3 which would require many code modifications? |
| 18:02.52 | RedSoxFan07 | GJdan: You might have to consider changing the code to bring it into compliance with version 5.3: https://secure.php.net/manual/en/migration53.incompatible.php |
| 18:03.16 | GJdan | RedSoxFan07: it's too big to be worth updating :\ it's an oooold drupal 5 site someone made ages ago. Needs to be live for a couple more months until a new up to date version is rolled to production |
| 18:03.30 | GJdan | the server it was on just died, I'm bringing it back live on a new one |
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| 18:33.42 | elwisp | Can anyone shine some light on when firefox quantum will be in the debian strech repo |
| 18:34.19 | elwisp | if ever that is |
| 18:35.00 | Brigo | elwisp, in stretch never, maybe in backports someday. |
| 18:35.11 | Brigo | stretch-backports. |
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| 18:35.29 | elwisp | so if i want to run it i should just get a 3rd party repo? |
| 18:35.38 | dondelcaro | elwisp: or wait for it to hit stretch-backports |
| 18:35.49 | Brigo | https://wiki.debian.org/Backports |
| 18:36.22 | dondelcaro | elwisp: though I *think* at this very moment you might be able to install it from experimental into stretch |
| 18:36.31 | dondelcaro | has not tested that, though |
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| 18:36.39 | elwisp | okay |
| 18:36.49 | elwisp | but its not in backports as of now, right? |
| 18:36.57 | Brigo | no, |
| 18:36.58 | mtn | how about http://mozilla.debian.net/? |
| 18:36.58 | dondelcaro | (it won't have any guarantees, or security updates, or anything like that) |
| 18:36.59 | Brigo | ,v firefox |
| 18:37.01 | judd | Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 56.0-2; experimental: 57.0~b9-1 |
| 18:37.46 | Brigo | ,v firefox-esr |
| 18:37.47 | judd | Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie: 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; jessie-proposed-updates: 52.4.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 52.4.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; wheezy-security: 52.4.0esr-2~deb7u1; buster: 52.4.0esr-2; sid: 52.4.0esr-2 |
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| 18:38.06 | elwisp | mtn: yeah i downloaded that one but its really just like a portable version, would be great to have a repo for it |
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| 18:38.11 | elwisp | to handle updates |
| 18:38.32 | Brigo | Description: Mozilla Firefox web browser - Extended Support Release (ESR) |
| 18:38.34 | elwisp | old firefox has support until june 2018 i think |
| 18:38.40 | elwisp | then mozilla will leave you on your own |
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| 18:39.29 | elwisp | usually i never care about new software in the repo, but im really excited for the new FF release |
| 18:39.37 | elwisp | can finally get rid of chrome |
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| 18:40.16 | n4dir | does the new release do anything which is worth to get excited about? |
| 18:40.24 | Brigo | elwisp, what do you need chrome to? |
| 18:40.27 | Brigo | for |
| 18:40.34 | elwisp | n4dir: speed |
| 18:40.41 | elwisp | Brigo: also speed |
| 18:40.42 | Brigo | let me guess, mustithreading |
| 18:40.58 | elwisp | new firefox is faster than chrome |
| 18:41.14 | Brigo | firefox for me is fast enought. I care more for other things, like stability. |
| 18:41.39 | elwisp | Chrome is stable enough for me. Cant remember the last time it crashed on me |
| 18:41.57 | elwisp | if you use a lot of tabs then ff quantum is what you want tho |
| 18:42.01 | n4dir | i am fooling with qupzilla. I can't see better speed, but it sure uses way less RAM |
| 18:42.37 | elwisp | n4dir: is it built on their new webegine as well? |
| 18:42.57 | n4dir | i got no clue |
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| 18:49.34 | elwisp | this was odd |
| 18:49.54 | elwisp | updated to 4.9.0-4 on debian stretch |
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| 18:50.19 | elwisp | the update grup step says it found mac os x on /dev/loop |
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| 18:51.51 | elwisp | turns out its an image of proxmox being mounted |
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| 19:12.26 | linuxthefish | !ask |
| 19:12.27 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 19:35.01 | Paddy_NI | Hey is there an official Mozilla repository with the latest Firefox quantum? |
| 19:35.19 | Paddy_NI | Well the official release/stable |
| 19:36.37 | greycat | wtf is Firefox quantum? |
| 19:36.45 | Unit193 | Firefox 57 |
| 19:37.48 | Paddy_NI | Unit193, Yeah I am desperate to see what they have produced. I feel kinda tainted using Chrome |
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| 19:39.06 | escobar | I setup a jail where I run ZNC and oidentd. I rerouted oidents from 113 to 4020. it only works on one or two ipv6. why is this? |
| 19:41.02 | greycat | looks like there's a #firefox channel |
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| 19:41.38 | Paddy_NI | greycat, Brain malfunction, of course. Cheers mate |
| 19:42.00 | jhutchins_wk | ,v firefox |
| 19:42.01 | judd | Package: firefox on amd64 -- jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.0-1~bpo80+1; sid: 56.0-2; experimental: 57.0~b9-1 |
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| 19:43.13 | Paddy_NI | Yeah I don't really want to hose my system with the experimental repo |
| 19:43.26 | Paddy_NI | Asking in #firefox presently |
| 19:43.34 | greycat | I would just install the upstream binaries in /usr/local or something, rather than try to find a .deb |
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| 19:44.09 | tremolo | Why bother with a repo? Take their tarball, extract it into /opt, make a symlink in /usr/local/bin/ |
| 19:44.21 | greycat | sure, or /opt |
| 19:45.00 | Paddy_NI | tremolo, Updates |
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| 19:46.12 | tremolo | download new tarball;pushd /opt;rm -rf firefox.old;mv firefox{,.old};extract new tarball |
| 19:46.18 | Paddy_NI | I guess I could do that until something arrives for the distro |
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| 19:47.10 | tremolo | Habit I picked up when Iceweasel became a thing, sounds like more of a pain than it feels. |
| 19:47.45 | Paddy_NI | tremolo, Whilst that is incredibly useful to know, it requires too much intervention on my part |
| 19:47.58 | Paddy_NI | For instance I actually have to check for new versions |
| 19:48.21 | greycat | This is the price you pay for your bleeding edge software fix. |
| 19:48.32 | Paddy_NI | I am very interested however in the breakdown of that command. I understand what it does but still would you humor me? |
| 19:48.39 | Paddy_NI | tremolo, ^ |
| 19:48.45 | Paddy_NI | greycat, Absolutely |
| 19:48.54 | tremolo | Firefox generally announces when it's unable to update, then offers a download link. |
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| 19:49.36 | tremolo | `pushd` is like `cd`, but you can `popd` back to where you were. Move to the directory /opt |
| 19:49.38 | Paddy_NI | tremolo, Oh yeah, I vaguely remember that when we had ancient browser releases installed |
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| 19:50.14 | tremolo | The `rm` line deletes firefox.old, which is where I moved the last working version in case of issues with the current version. |
| 19:50.26 | Paddy_NI | Smart |
| 19:50.54 | tremolo | The `mv` line renames the directory firefox to firefox.old, in case of issues with the new version. |
| 19:51.47 | tremolo | `download` and `extract` are pseudocode, don't run them. :D |
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| 19:52.16 | Paddy_NI | lol sure :_) |
| 19:52.31 | Paddy_NI | I have never used pushd or popd |
| 19:52.59 | Paddy_NI | Thank you for taking the time to explain that to me tremolo |
| 19:53.08 | Paddy_NI | Much appreciated |
| 19:53.15 | tremolo | Not a problem |
| 19:53.29 | escobar | I setup a jail where I run ZNC and oidentd. I rerouted oidents from 113 to 4020. it only works on one or two ipv6. why is this? |
| 19:53.46 | Paddy_NI | brb |
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| 19:54.15 | tremolo | Anyway, it's more of an "I do it this way" than a "you should do it this way." |
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| 19:55.54 | tharkun | Good $DAY I tried copying the iso image into a usb device using cp $FILE /dev/sdb1 ; sync but it misserably failed to boot the machine up. Where did I messed up so noobish? |
| 19:56.44 | tremolo | Why sdb1 and not sdb? |
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| 19:57.00 | teraflops | because ey is wrong |
| 19:57.22 | teraflops | tharkun: it's /dev/sdb not /dev/sdb1 |
| 19:57.45 | tharkun | teraflops: because I was thinking in terms of partitions not devices you are so f right. Thanks for the heads up :D |
| 19:58.22 | teraflops | np |
| 19:59.40 | tharkun | Now I need a good objective reason to tell a client about debian beeing her best option over ubuntu LTS. Can anyone help me with that one? |
| 20:00.16 | tharkun | I need the convincing reason one that appeals to the mangerial part of the person. |
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| 20:03.47 | teraflops | tharkun: for a server installation? |
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| 20:19.49 | KaffeeJunky123 | tharkun: imho that depends on the clients IT department, if the guys are used to ubuntu I don't see why you should be pushing them to debian, lots of little details differ |
| 20:20.09 | KaffeeJunky123 | If you are going to do all the work, you might as well just say, I know Debian better than Ubuntu |
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| 20:25.32 | jhutchins_wk | There's less argument for Debian on a non-technical user's desktop, more for a production server. |
| 20:26.30 | Sveta | debian is quite user-friendly, i install it for desktop for my family |
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| 20:26.57 | jelly | maybe it's user-friendly if you have a sysadmin called Sveta in the family |
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| 20:28.09 | jelly | I install ubuntu for mine, less hassle with drivers and a half-decent UI by default instead of gnome |
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| 20:28.50 | KaffeeJunky123 | jelly: how's gnome less decent than unity? also ubuntu is switching to gnome now |
| 20:28.59 | jelly | "a lot" |
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| 20:30.11 | jelly | they may be switching now, but current LTS release of theirs is supported until 2021 or so |
| 20:30.47 | jelly | hopefully they're going to actually fix their new desktop before then |
| 20:30.55 | KaffeeJunky123 | LTS is also more of an argument for ubuntu :< |
| 20:31.10 | jelly | !lts |
| 20:31.10 | dpkg | Debian Long Term Support (LTS) is a project to extend the lifetime of all Debian stable releases to (at least) 5 years. Debian LTS is not handled by the Debian security team, but by a separate group of volunteers and companies. Ask me about <wheezy-lts> and see https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information. #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net. |
| 20:31.40 | KaffeeJunky123 | jelly: In Debian security team I trust |
| 20:31.56 | KaffeeJunky123 | So I stay stable and upgrade when it becomes old stable |
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| 20:33.06 | jelly | then you're not the intended audience |
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| 20:34.36 | teraflops | I'm too used to debian is a good reason too. |
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| 20:35.00 | teraflops | since you're going to maintain the system |
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| 20:35.31 | KaffeeJunky123 | teraflops: we don't know if he's going to maintain the system, he didn't tell us |
| 20:35.56 | teraflops | I assumed so. fair point |
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| 20:36.56 | jelly | tharkun: best for what? |
| 20:37.03 | teraflops | I just noticed recently I have no idea of ubuntu I found myself lost in a desktop system |
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| 20:47.24 | jean_ | Hi, I've just installed a Debian 9 on a Satellite A110-149. I still have a problem with the graphic driver : firmware: failed to load radeon/R300_cp.bin. When I try to install it via firmware-linux-nonfree, on the next reboot, the login screen freezes. Can you help me ? |
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| 20:50.10 | jean_ | For information, the graphic card is : Mobility Radeon Xpress 200M |
| 20:51.08 | jhutchins_wk | jean_: Do you have the pciid? (lspci -nn) |
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| 20:51.51 | jean_ | I think it is 1002:5a62 |
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| 20:52.32 | jhutchins_wk | Sveta: I think Debian's plenty user-friendly, but when it comes to new hardware or upgrades you're there for your family. For a non-technical person on their own it's harder. |
| 20:52.45 | jhutchins_wk | ,pciid 1002:5a62 |
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| 20:52.46 | judd | [1002:5a62] is 'RC410M [Mobility Radeon Xpress 200M]' from 'Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'radeonfb', 'radeon' in stretch. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:5a62 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
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| 20:55.34 | jean_ | The login screen which freezes is gdm. I haven't try with lightdm.. |
| 20:55.55 | jean_ | Ok, so what should I do ? |
| 20:56.30 | jean_ | Do I need to install something ? |
| 20:57.07 | teraflops | checking a different DM is not a bad idea, since GDM is too picky |
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| 20:57.40 | teraflops | also plain startx is a good idea too if you want to check whether your issue is DM related or not |
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| 20:58.28 | jean_ | Ok, I'm going to try to re-install the driver with a different DM. |
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| 20:59.01 | v0idpwn | check log files |
| 21:00.23 | jean_ | v0idpwn : which log file ? |
| 21:00.32 | teraflops | jean_: you do not need to reinstall the driver |
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| 21:01.16 | jhutchins_wk | jean_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 21:01.29 | jean_ | I need to, I have re-installed Debian, so the driver R300_cp.bin isn't in the system anymore |
| 21:01.50 | jhutchins_wk | jean_: You mean the firmware, right? |
| 21:02.04 | jean_ | Sorry, the firmware, yes... |
| 21:02.42 | teraflops | that's not driver, that's a firmware file |
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| 21:04.14 | jean_ | Ok, I did : apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree . What should I do ? Reboot ? |
| 21:04.32 | greycat | disable the display manager first |
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| 21:05.04 | greycat | systemctl set-default multi-user.target |
| 21:05.11 | jean_ | greycat : how can I do this ? |
| 21:05.13 | jean_ | ok |
| 21:05.36 | greycat | if you ever get it working, you can undo it later with systemctl set-default graphical.target |
| 21:06.04 | jean_ | thank you ! |
| 21:06.21 | jean_ | Should I reboot now ? |
| 21:06.31 | greycat | yes |
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| 21:07.53 | jean_ | ok, see ya ! |
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| 21:08.40 | KaffeeJunky123 | greycat: but how will he join irc again without a graphical interface when he's using chatzilla |
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| 21:09.39 | greycat | I thought the entire reason he's here is because X (via gdm3) doesn't start, or hangs, or whatever. |
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| 21:09.47 | jhutchins_wk | KaffeeJunky123: He will install irssi and learn that it rocks and is a better alternative. |
| 21:09.55 | KaffeeJunky123 | jhutchins_wk: hopefully |
| 21:10.21 | KaffeeJunky123 | but then again, I didn't bother to setup my irssi properly since I moved from wheezy |
| 21:10.29 | KaffeeJunky123 | so now I don't have a working nicklist |
| 21:11.18 | KaffeeJunky123 | or did I have it working at some point in jessie, I don't remember :D |
| 21:11.46 | teraflops | yeah or weechat |
| 21:11.52 | teraflops | or whatever |
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| 21:12.11 | jhutchins_wk | KaffeeJunky123: You mean a full-time nicklist? |
| 21:12.23 | KaffeeJunky123 | jhutchins_wk: yes |
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| 21:12.52 | jhutchins_wk | KaffeeJunky123: I think I remember seeing that on the irssi web site startup guide. They have pretty good docs there. |
| 21:12.52 | KaffeeJunky123 | jhutchins_wk: I think I was using nicklist with screen, but I couldn't be bothered to set it up again |
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| 21:18.12 | jean_ | I'm back ! So after reboot, I was in text mode. I logged in and typed : startx . The mouse cursos was there, I was ble to move it, but nothing else. So I have remove the firmware package and I'm back... again... |
| 21:18.26 | jean_ | ble=able |
| 21:18.28 | greycat | Why on earth did you REMOVE the firmware? |
| 21:19.07 | greycat | you've demonstrated that the card + firmware works with the current driver, so just use something other than gdm3/gnome and you should be OK |
| 21:20.14 | jean_ | greycat : I need to access a chat client.. |
| 21:20.22 | KaffeeJunky123 | jean_: install a terminal chat client :D |
| 21:20.36 | KaffeeJunky123 | jean_: have you tried modifying the amount of VRAM in the BIOS? |
| 21:20.42 | greycat | I thought that with no firmware, your system didn't work AT ALL. |
| 21:20.46 | greycat | Now I am very confused. |
| 21:20.48 | jean_ | KaffeeJunky123 : good idea... |
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| 21:20.54 | KaffeeJunky123 | If I'm not mistaken that card uses memory allocated from the host |
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| 21:21.25 | KaffeeJunky123 | jean_: gdm is rather bulky these days |
| 21:21.25 | malek | any one here to help i need help about linux curl |
| 21:21.45 | KaffeeJunky123 | jean_: what kind of machine are you installing this on? some old thinkpad? |
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| 21:22.33 | KaffeeJunky123 | malek: just ask your actual question, don't ask to ask. |
| 21:22.46 | jean_ | The system is working but there was an error with R300_cp.bin |
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| 21:23.42 | jean_ | KaffeeJunky123 : How can I check the DM installed ? I think it is lightdm, but I'm not sure... |
| 21:24.08 | jean_ | KaffeeJunky123 : The machine is Satellite A110-149 |
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| 21:24.31 | malek | i try to login that page : -u 'email:password' curl https://dashboard.ngrok.com/user/login . so i want it to redirect me to that page : https://dashboard.ngrok.com/get-started |
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| 21:26.11 | greycat | So, if you REMOVE the firmware, then everything works fine? And if you install it, then GNOME breaks and falls over and kills your puppies? How bizarre. |
| 21:26.15 | malek | but it gave me Bad Request CSRF token missing or incorrect. |
| 21:26.16 | KaffeeJunky123 | jean_: did you run dpkg-reconfigure lightdm |
| 21:26.25 | KaffeeJunky123 | jean_: with sudo |
| 21:26.40 | greycat | malek: there is a #curl channel |
| 21:26.41 | jean_ | KaffeeJunky123 : no I didn't, should I ? |
| 21:26.49 | malek | really |
| 21:26.50 | malek | waw |
| 21:27.12 | KaffeeJunky123 | malek: that means the page is using a CSRF cookie |
| 21:27.28 | malek | but how you do then |
| 21:27.37 | KaffeeJunky123 | jean_: I think it runs automatically when you first install lightdm, but you could try |
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| 21:28.03 | jean_ | KaffeeJunky123 : lightdm is the default choice when I run it |
| 21:28.06 | KaffeeJunky123 | malek: better ask that in #curl, I don't know enough about curl and if it handles cookies |
| 21:28.20 | malek | thanks KaffeeJunky123 |
| 21:28.30 | malek | have nice day |
| 21:28.58 | KaffeeJunky123 | malek: or google for "curl with csrf token" |
| 21:30.37 | jean_ | KaffeeJunky123 : note that now, I don't see any error with radeon. I have : https://pastebin.com/wUHVmwAw |
| 21:31.33 | jean_ | So I added the firmware-linux-nonfree, and removed it, and the is no more error and the system is still running... Yeah ! |
| 21:31.45 | jean_ | the=there |
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| 21:32.13 | KaffeeJunky123 | jean_: the log shows that it loaded the firmware, so it can't be gone |
| 21:32.43 | jean_ | I did apt-get remove firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 21:33.06 | jean_ | But apt said to do autoremove, what I didn't do |
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| 21:33.16 | greycat | did you reboot after removing the firmware? |
| 21:33.29 | jean_ | greycat : yes |
| 21:33.53 | jean_ | I think... |
| 21:33.55 | greycat | If the system "works" without firmware and "breaks" with it, then remove the firmware and be content. |
| 21:34.55 | greycat | The only hypothesis I can come up with is, with the firmware installed, GNOME tries to use certain fancy featurest that break. Without the firmware, it doesn't try and so you have a reduced but working feature-set. |
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| 21:35.16 | jean_ | greycat : I don't like having error messages. The messages said GPU was disabled... |
| 21:35.24 | jean_ | greycat : ok |
| 21:35.25 | teraflops | greycat: which is a good theory |
| 21:35.56 | jean_ | I don't have gnome, I use lightdm and xfce |
| 21:36.29 | greycat | 15:55 jean_> The login screen which freezes is gdm. I haven't try with lightdm.. |
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| 21:37.57 | jean_ | greycat : after a fresh install, the radeon eror message was there. After the firmware insalled, lightdm was stuck. After removing the frmware, no more error message and lightdm is working again... weird, isn't it ? |
| 21:38.29 | greycat | Too many contradictions. |
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| 21:38.46 | teraflops | jean_: is this an old gpu? |
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| 21:39.01 | greycat | 15:51 jean_> I think it is 1002:5a62 |
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| 21:39.51 | jean_ | teraflops : I think... It is a machine of 2007 |
| 21:40.11 | G3mb3ltz | ??? |
| 21:41.01 | jean_ | so quite old |
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| 21:42.49 | teraflops | well, I wouldnt call it new :P |
| 21:43.21 | jean_ | Recycling ! |
| 21:43.39 | teraflops | jean_: does the gpu performs correctly? at least do you have hw accel? |
| 21:43.55 | teraflops | perform^ |
| 21:44.01 | jean_ | teraflops : How can I check that ? |
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| 21:45.33 | blazeme8 | in this apt package's Depends line, what's does the tilda mean? `Depends: libkmod2 (>= 5~)` |
| 21:45.45 | teraflops | you should notice it quickly, but glxinfo | grep rendering |
| 21:46.58 | jean_ | direct rendering : yes |
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| 21:47.33 | jean_ | teraflops : I have hw accel !!! Coooool ! |
| 21:47.34 | Rotonen | what happened to libguestfs-tools in buster? https://packages.debian.org/libguestfs-tools |
| 21:48.19 | teraflops | youre more than fine then :P |
| 21:48.36 | jean_ | ok, I would like to hank you all for your help, teraflops, greycat, KaffeeJunky123 |
| 21:48.40 | jean_ | Bye !!! |
| 21:48.51 | jean_ | hak = thank |
| 21:48.55 | teraflops | np |
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| 21:52.24 | G3mb3ltz | hy |
| 21:52.30 | G3mb3ltz | how to make botene |
| 21:52.45 | G3mb3ltz | how to make botnet on kali linux |
| 21:52.54 | greycat | !kali |
| 21:52.54 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>, and read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html |
| 21:54.10 | Wulf | !based on debian |
| 21:54.10 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 21:54.57 | KaffeeJunky123 | greycat: that aside, asking how to make a botnet is kind of weird |
| 21:55.10 | KaffeeJunky123 | This is freenode, we don't endorse illegal activity, do we ? |
| 21:55.27 | greycat | It is, but it's not our problem to worry about. We can shove him over to #kali-linux and let them worry about it. |
| 21:55.29 | annadane | devil's advocate position: "free"node should embrace freedom? |
| 21:55.31 | annadane | (/s) |
| 21:55.42 | Wulf | G3mb3ltz: set your root passwort to "admin" and make sure password login is enabled. Then wait. |
| 21:56.06 | KaffeeJunky123 | Wulf: the kali live distro has default passwords and sshd enabled |
| 21:56.22 | KaffeeJunky123 | Wulf: and it accepts root login |
| 21:56.31 | annadane | G3mb3ltz, more serious answer, don't ask about "hacking" or "botnets". figure out how to do it yourself or you'll almost certainly get the wrong advice and anyway you shouldn't be running botnets anyway |
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| 21:56.35 | annadane | also, kali is not debian |
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| 21:56.46 | Wulf | KaffeeJunky123: so if G3mb3ltz starts kali with public ip address, it's all he has to do? |
| 21:56.55 | Wulf | so easy to join a botnet these days :) |
| 21:56.59 | KaffeeJunky123 | Wulf: yeah |
| 21:57.12 | KaffeeJunky123 | Wulf: maybe tell people that he's using kali on irc |
| 21:57.17 | greycat | "It's not just for Windows any more!" |
| 21:57.18 | KaffeeJunky123 | won't take long then |
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| 21:58.08 | KaffeeJunky123 | Wulf: someone on another channel got banned from the channel for remotely killing someones kali live distro lol |
| 21:58.22 | KaffeeJunky123 | This dude joined the channel and asked if he could try to hack anyone |
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| 21:58.34 | KaffeeJunky123 | And then he got hacked himself |
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| 21:59.32 | KaffeeJunky123 | Wulf: it was a simple shutdown -r now thing, so he came back and asked what happend, the game repeated for a while till the "evil" irc user playing him got banned |
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| 21:59.40 | KaffeeJunky123 | Wulf: well the "hacker" got banned to |
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| 22:01.09 | G3mb3ltz | sorry all |
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| 22:03.04 | Wulf | KaffeeJunky123: banning is not nice. |
| 22:03.27 | KaffeeJunky123 | Wulf: sometimes it has to be done |
| 22:03.50 | Wulf | KaffeeJunky123: yes, e.g. if someone spams the channel |
| 22:03.53 | annadane | G3mb3ltz, that's quite all right. i hope we're not rude. |
| 22:03.59 | Wulf | KaffeeJunky123: or posts highly abusive content |
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| 22:04.11 | annadane | maybe you guys should go to #debian-offtopic at this point |
| 22:04.24 | Wulf | annadane: no, I'm done already |
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| 22:04.47 | aloo_shu | I think in places like WOOT or Black Hat it is understood that hacking and avoiding getting hacked are basically the same science, and in consequence, a part time criminal might interchange information with a security guy, since that is becoming the re-phrased question then, not good vs. bad, but opacity vs. transparence. no hardening without vulnerability testing. and yes, I wouldn't mind taking it to -offtopic |
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| 22:05.52 | KaffeeJunky123 | well, I have serious business to tend to, so I'll say good bye at this point |
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| 22:33.18 | tsukuyomi | hello |
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| 22:42.01 | Sveta | tsukuyomi: greetings. :) |
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| 23:02.26 | its-a-me | hello, I don't know how to manually partition to set up an encrypted system. I can't use guided because I want to keep the exixting EFI and macos partitions |
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| 23:03.51 | Brigo | its-a-me, maybe there is any guide in the web. |
| 23:04.41 | its-a-me | I could not find one detailed enough but I can try again |
| 23:05.33 | its-a-me | I tried to make a new partition and "Use as" physical encrypted volume |
| 23:06.04 | Brigo | its-a-me, i really never used encryption, so not much help here. sorry. |
| 23:06.17 | its-a-me | as for swap, I learned that I can make a swapfile later within the encrypted volume |
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| 23:08.25 | its-a-me | Brigo, thanks anyway :) I'll stick around and maybe report later if I'm successful w another guide |
| 23:08.29 | cq1 | Hey folks. I just got my Russian keyboard in the mail, and I confirmed that it works fine with "setxkbmap ru", but I want to be able to switch back and forth with a keyboard shortcut. Is there a standard way of setting this up? |
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| 23:09.45 | v0idpwn | I would set up a bash script, but probably theres a better alternative |
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| 23:14.27 | RoyK | cq1: not sure - I haven't used debian on a desktop for a while, but setting up a shortcut should be easy - most systems I know have that built in |
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| 23:15.32 | RoyK | cq1: I normally switch between norwegian and US keyboard layouts all the time since I like the US kbd layout better for programming, and haven't bothered to design my own yet |
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| 23:16.16 | RoyK | cq1: https://xkcd.com/1806/ ;) |
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| 23:18.33 | v0idpwn | is someone really into dvorak? |
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| 23:19.14 | Sveta | v0idpwn: sometimes. |
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| 23:20.30 | v0idpwn | dominate vim again >_< |
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| 23:21.31 | cq1 | RoyK: I feel pretty dumb. I just looked in the obvious MATE settings GUI thing and it was super easy. |
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| 23:22.07 | cq1 | Also, as per xkcd 1806, when I was in college I set up my desktop to switch between QWERTY and Dvorak every 5 seconds, and use xrandr to slightly tint the screen so I could tell which one it was. |
| 23:22.15 | cq1 | You could actually learn to anticipate the switches and type fine. |
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| 23:24.48 | v0idpwn | and I thought i was autist |
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| 23:28.52 | Guest46071 | hello everyone, i'm new to debian. Can you guys point me to some cool things within the operating system! I got a small programming background, maybe some cool programs to build to learn the operating system ! |
| 23:29.17 | v0idpwn | there's a lot of material in the internet |
| 23:29.34 | v0idpwn | what is your programming background? |
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| 23:31.58 | Guest46071 | little bit of python and web apps |
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| 23:32.46 | v0idpwn | try some ricing |
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| 23:48.14 | Rotonen | volatility of web guests be damned, but i suppose dpkg-reconfigure and update-alternatives could be in the generic basket of 'cool things debian' |
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| 23:54.18 | Unit193 | That's what you'd list? Granted, it's a means to an end, not really sure what "cool" things are Debian. |
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