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| 00:17.24 | Th3Z0h4n | Hey gents, It appears that my grub setup can't load my second partition's kernels. Correctly auto detected values in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, "file not found" at boot time. Rings any bells? Any suggestions - pointers? Thanks in advance. |
| 00:17.48 | Th3Z0h4n | both partitions ext4 |
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| 00:22.37 | fssdd | hi |
| 00:22.57 | fssdd | is xen working on debian? my computer doesn't boot with it. maybe i need to change something in the bios? |
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| 00:37.26 | RoyK | fssdd: iirc xen works, but why? kvm is better |
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| 00:42.03 | fssdd | ok never worked with kvm, but i'll give it a shot |
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| 00:42.27 | fssdd | maybe i get around fixing xen this way while learning something new |
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| 00:50.06 | Arahael | I have an interface, with details taken from dhcp. To test a networking issue, I want to broaden it's subnet. Ie, from 10.0.0.0/24 to 10.0.0.0/16, however, I can't figure out how to do so. |
| 00:50.25 | Arahael | The ip route add command requires a gateway, in general. |
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| 00:56.01 | RoyK | Arahael: ip addr add route # etc |
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| 00:56.40 | RoyK | Arahael: you need to set the netmask to something broad like /8 for 10/8 |
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| 01:01.31 | Arahael | RoyK: Turns out that just adding the address was enough. Can't do it by route, beause that requires a gateway, and I wanted link-local. |
| 01:03.41 | RoyK | Arahael: the address is the one that has the netmask |
| 01:04.17 | RoyK | ip a add 10.1.2.3/8 dev blabla |
| 01:04.33 | Arahael | Yep... That's the addr, I misinterpreted what you said. |
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| 01:05.00 | RoyK | ip a == ip addr |
| 01:05.15 | RoyK | the ip command takes a lot of shortcuts |
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| 01:06.05 | Arahael | Yep, but did you mean "route", or was that a placeholder? |
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| 01:17.41 | awal1 | what happens with main debian channel on oftc? |
| 01:18.07 | awal1 | just registred/identified users? |
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| 01:18.20 | awal1 | -R mode or what? |
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| 01:19.42 | LtL | awal1: just registered and identified is all |
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| 01:20.21 | LtL | awal1: if i understand you correctly that is |
| 01:20.41 | awal1 | well, I use always this nickname but not registered it yet :( |
| 01:21.10 | awal1 | #debian :Cannot join channel (Need to be identified and verified to join this channel, '/msg NickServ help' to learn how to register and verify.) |
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| 01:22.17 | LtL | awal1: you don't need a cloak, just registered and identified w/nickserv |
| 01:22.56 | awal1 | Ltl, I may register later, yeah |
| 01:23.55 | LtL | awal1: you can add a second nickname to your original acct. over there, just like freenode i believe |
| 01:24.04 | Sveta | yes |
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| 01:32.58 | awal1 | it was a temporal technical issue |
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| 01:45.27 | binary106 | hi guys i'm building a CI/CD server and want to checkout dozens of git branches. 9k files in repo. Is there a way to de-dupe all those files in common somehow? |
| 01:46.01 | binary106 | transparently* de-dupe |
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| 02:31.38 | CW_Texashack | Hello! |
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| 02:32.30 | CW_Texashack | How are you? |
| 02:33.38 | Sveta | hi CW_Texashack :-) |
| 02:34.04 | CW_Texashack | So, what distro are you on? |
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| 02:35.34 | LtL | CW_Texashack: we like to direct casual chat to #debian-offtopic this channel is for debian support sorry. |
| 02:35.58 | awal1 | anyone uses adwaita theme and some gtk2 based app? |
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| 02:36.47 | awal1 | say hexchat |
| 02:37.02 | LtL | awal1: yes i do |
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| 02:37.40 | LtL | awal1: adwaita dark |
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| 02:38.07 | awal1 | Ltl, if you write in hexchat text bar something like 123 and you try to place the mouse cursor bar (|) between 2 and 3 what happens? |
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| 02:38.28 | awal1 | it gets placed after 3 or 2 and 1? |
| 02:38.39 | awal1 | it gets placed after 3 or between 2 and 1? |
| 02:38.39 | LtL | awal1: let me check |
| 02:40.07 | LtL | awal1: i can put it in between 1 and 2 and 2 and 3 |
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| 02:40.35 | awal1 | Ltl, can you try with letters? |
| 02:40.39 | awal1 | say abcd |
| 02:40.50 | awal1 | LtL |
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| 02:41.47 | LtL | awal1: i can put it anywhere, but i need to click one character to the left |
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| 02:42.55 | awal1 | LtL, you mean if you want to place | between 2 and 3 you need to place | after 3 or before 2 and clic? |
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| 02:43.50 | LtL | awal1: yes before 2 to get it between 2 and three, same with alpha chars |
| 02:44.22 | awal1 | LTL, that is the problem I wanted to confirm |
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| 02:44.24 | awal1 | thanks |
| 02:44.35 | LtL | awal1: welcome |
| 02:44.56 | awal1 | It is a bug somewhere, maybe in adwaita pkg, since stretch development |
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| 02:45.39 | awal1 | LtL, so I'm not the only one affected by that bug, thanks for confirming |
| 02:45.53 | LtL | awal1: no problem |
| 02:45.55 | awal1 | maybe some one can help debugging this weird issue |
| 02:46.27 | awal1 | because it happens with all gtk2 based apps I tried (pcmanfm and so) |
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| 02:46.47 | awal1 | LtL, do you have any idea ? |
| 02:47.01 | LtL | awal1: it is odd, i never noticed this before. adwaita dark has a couple glitches. no i have no idea why |
| 02:47.08 | awal1 | I want to report a bug but no clue about how to debug such stuff |
| 02:47.43 | awal1 | it only happens with adwaita (standard or dark)themes |
| 02:48.31 | awal1 | it doesn't happen with mate-themes, arc themes or any other gtk2/3 theme |
| 02:49.26 | awal1 | I use "blue menta" theme and all fine |
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| 02:54.12 | awal1 | LtL, you may want to try arc themes (it have bright, dar and darker variants), much better than adwaita |
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| 02:54.25 | awal1 | dark^ |
| 02:54.54 | LtL | awal1: thank you, i will give that a try |
| 02:55.07 | awal1 | np |
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| 03:01.45 | LtL | awal1: arc-dark is nice, thanks :) |
| 03:04.41 | awal1 | LtL, you welcome :) |
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| 03:11.04 | QwertyChouskie | SuperTuxKart just had a new release but still needs to be updated in Debian: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=sourcenames&keywords=supertuxkart |
| 03:11.05 | QwertyChouskie | http://blog.supertuxkart.net/2017/11/supertuxkart-093-released.html |
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| 03:17.51 | Some1NamedNate | i update the db's very often |
| 03:18.10 | Some1NamedNate | for some reason there haven't been pkg updates very often |
| 03:18.24 | Some1NamedNate | i expect update whenever i update the db's |
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| 03:19.31 | Some1NamedNate | updates* |
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| 03:21.22 | QwertyChouskie | thanks |
| 03:21.39 | Some1NamedNate | for...? |
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| 03:22.35 | QwertyChouskie | the answer? or was that for a different question? |
| 03:23.06 | Some1NamedNate | are you referring to what i said? |
| 03:23.23 | QwertyChouskie | yes? |
| 03:24.05 | Some1NamedNate | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
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| 03:25.03 | QwertyChouskie | I just saw "update" and "soon", and since my question was about an updated, I assumed it was an answer ;) |
| 03:25.12 | QwertyChouskie | *an update |
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| 03:25.26 | Some1NamedNate | did you get the same problem? |
| 03:25.54 | Some1NamedNate | cause again sometimes i expect udpates whenever i update the db's |
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| 03:27.54 | awal1 | arc dark theme works almost perfectly with all apps except chromium :P |
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| 03:56.11 | Lyberta | how can I add ~/.local/bin to PATH so it works with any shell? for some reason shell started by CodeLite doesn't want to execute programs from .local |
| 03:56.30 | Lyberta | i.e. it doesn't find them |
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| 06:03.30 | darxmurf | morning |
| 06:06.16 | awal1 | which font you recommend guys, the one you consider "the best" ? not looking for a vs b, please |
| 06:06.32 | awal1 | i usually use sans or deja vu variants |
| 06:06.36 | SwedeMike | awal1: I use Menlo Regular. |
| 06:06.57 | awal1 | SwedeMike, never heard about it |
| 06:07.36 | SwedeMike | awal1: http://wesbos.com/programming-fonts/ |
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| 06:11.21 | awal1 | SwedeMike, nice |
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| 06:25.25 | nix64bit | and what if I have 2 firefox binaries? |
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| 07:10.45 | ivh | Input from neither my bluetooth or usb-keyboard comes through suddenly, although though both are connected and recognized. What can be the reason for this? |
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| 07:35.44 | ivh | ... a reboot fixed it. Feels like tales people tell from that other OS. |
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| 07:42.24 | Sepultura | Hallo |
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| 07:45.19 | Sepultura | can you make group directories? A Home Directory for a group of users? |
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| 07:55.56 | matt_keys | Hello, I'm able to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1329956 but on the latest deb9 |
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| 07:56.31 | matt_keys | kern 4.9.30-2+deb9u5, qemu Version: 1:2.8+dfsg-6+deb9u3 |
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| 07:58.58 | somiaj | matt_keys: Have you checked the debian bts for the bug as well. I also notice that it seems to be a very specifc issue, and stretch is frozen so it may not be something debian will fix in stretch. |
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| 08:02.29 | matt_keys | somiaj: I didn't see it there. I'm going to add debian as a distro to this one, then make a comment at the bottom. |
| 08:03.39 | somiaj | I would see if affects the version in buster/sid. The end of the report said it was fixed in some cases by a newer version. |
| 08:03.50 | somiaj | and if it does affect buster/sid, report the bug to debian as well. |
| 08:04.11 | somiaj | but to me it dosen't appear that it would be something that would be fixed in debian. |
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| 08:05.13 | somiaj | sorry I mean fixed in stretch |
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| 08:13.43 | syshape | When I try to paste using the mouse with 'sudo vim' or 'sudoedit', I can only paste some content that I did copy in the same instance of vim, not from other windows. Besides |
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| 08:14.07 | syshape | I mean I can paste normally with 'sudo nano' |
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| 08:34.58 | pagios | good morning everyone, i am facing a problem installing this package, where can i get more log info about it and fix it? https://pastebin.com/wfjDP9th |
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| 08:35.56 | babilen | pagios: My guess would be "From kaltura who provided that broken package" |
| 08:36.14 | pagios | babilen, how to fix? |
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| 08:37.25 | babilen | You could look into the post install maintainer script and figure out what *they* did wrong. Should be in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 08:37.44 | babilen | But then .. this really isn't a Debian problem, but you deciding to install randomg (broken) packages from third parties |
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| 08:38.58 | babilen | Once you've fixed that error, run "dpkg -a --configure" |
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| 08:43.19 | pagios | babilen, i dont see any error in dpkg/info |
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| 08:48.25 | babilen | pagios: There obviously is one |
| 08:48.35 | babilen | (even if it's not logging/echo'ing anything) |
| 08:48.39 | pagios | can i install that dwh solely? |
| 08:48.46 | babilen | dwh? |
| 08:48.51 | babilen | I have no idea |
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| 08:49.03 | babilen | Those packages aren't in Debian |
| 08:49.24 | xormor | can I get Debian to work in an ARM PC? |
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| 08:50.34 | xormor | https://wiki.debian.org/Arm64Port |
| 08:51.12 | babilen | dpkg: armel |
| 08:51.12 | dpkg | armel is the Debian <ARM> EABI port, first released with Debian 5.0 "Lenny". http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/ #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net. See also <armel vs armhf>. |
| 08:52.14 | babilen | xormor: Both are release architectures .. so, you should be able to install it, yes |
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| 08:55.53 | pagios | babilen, how would you tackle this problem? |
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| 08:58.32 | babilen | I already told you. Read the maintainer scripts that come with the broken package, fix them, run configure |
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| 09:10.10 | pagios | babilen, you mean the maintainer scripts inside the .deb file? |
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| 09:10.42 | pagios | inside kaltura-dwh.list ? |
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| 09:13.02 | babilen | pagios: As said: You'd find them in /var/lib/dpkg/info/kaltura* |
| 09:13.44 | pagios | babilen, https://pastebin.com/vNreKfNW ? |
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| 09:15.12 | babilen | pagios: Looks like a good candidate, yeah |
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| 09:17.59 | babilen | You could just add "exit 0" in the second line and run "dpkg -a --configure" to make it "install", but then all the things that might need to get done will not be performed and the software might not work as expected |
| 09:18.19 | babilen | For it to work you'd have to figure out what's wrong and fix it |
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| 09:26.09 | dexta | gm |
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| 09:38.58 | pagios | babilen, seems hard |
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| 09:43.24 | hammer065 | I have a question about a package |
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| 09:44.28 | hammer065 | which core functionality is heavily affected by changes in the Debian build |
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| 09:45.11 | petn-randall | hammer065: Ask; if someone knows the answer they'll respond. |
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| 09:47.12 | hammer065 | tl;dr: The time of sl is so heavily modified from upstream, its loosing its benefit completely |
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| 09:47.42 | hammer065 | Regardless that it isn't even installed in a standard directory |
| 09:47.49 | jelly-home | hammer065: sl? |
| 09:47.56 | hammer065 | Correct |
| 09:48.03 | jelly-home | the ascii art choo choo? |
| 09:48.09 | hammer065 | Correct |
| 09:48.12 | jelly-home | nod |
| 09:48.46 | hammer065 | On Debian, its sped up so heavily that it looses its benefit |
| 09:49.08 | jelly-home | best file a bug report |
| 09:49.19 | mrig | Hello, Do the 3 DVD ISO images that are offered for download on the debian website correspond to the first 3 hash values shown in the listings; There are more DVD's there than are available from the site? |
| 09:49.23 | jelly-home | !reportbug |
| 09:49.23 | dpkg | reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. See http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting, or <reportbug MTA> |
| 09:50.32 | hammer065 | Is there a way to report a bug _not_ using Debian? |
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| 09:50.46 | hammer065 | Or a Debian-oid system? |
| 09:51.05 | tarzeau_ | hammer065: any system which can send mail |
| 09:51.13 | hammer065 | Perfect |
| 09:51.14 | petn-randall | hammer065: If you're not running Debian, you shouldn't report bugs to Debian, but your distro. |
| 09:51.22 | mrig | Ah yes, I have just checked the sum against the ISO, I have been trying to check against my created USB drive; Having a little difficulty. |
| 09:51.44 | tarzeau_ | petn-randall: he probably does run debian, but not on the one he wants to report the bug from. not all debian systems are internet connected |
| 09:52.05 | jelly-home | hammer065: it's basically a mail message. Best confirm the bug really exists in Debian as well, tho |
| 09:52.24 | hammer065 | I am, proudly, not running Debian, however my company is uses it on a machine I need to use once a week |
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| 09:53.01 | jelly-home | hammer065: you can run reportbug on that machine, let it generate the mail message, and send it from elsewhere |
| 09:53.13 | hammer065 | Okay |
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| 09:53.15 | hammer065 | Thanks |
| 09:53.32 | jelly-home | what you run on other machines is not really relevant, as long as they can send a plaintext mail |
| 09:53.59 | hammer065 | Is there any way to look into the source which is getting used in Debian builds of applications? |
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| 09:54.29 | tarzeau_ | hammer065: https://sources.debian.net/src/sl/3.03-17/ |
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| 09:59.01 | jelly-home | clearly this important loss of functionality should be remedied post-haste |
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| 10:00.45 | hammer065 | Exactly |
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| 10:01.31 | Lyberta | how come /bin/sh spawned from GUI process doesn't read ~/.profile? |
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| 10:02.59 | jelly | hammer065: fwiw the choo choo is not too fast on my debian 9 |
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| 10:03.25 | jelly | sl 0.03s user 0.00s system 0% cpu 5.505 total |
| 10:05.04 | rudi_s | Lyberta: Because only login shells read ~/.profile |
| 10:05.36 | Lyberta | rudi_s, how can I make read profile? or how to inject a changed PATH into it? |
| 10:06.15 | rudi_s | Lyberta: You can't. But you can export your PATH in your ~/.xsessionrc which is loaded when your X starts. |
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| 10:06.24 | Lyberta | hmm |
| 10:06.27 | Lyberta | gonna try |
| 10:06.52 | rudi_s | (You have to logout/login to apply those changes.) |
| 10:07.20 | Lyberta | yeah, I understand, I messed with .xsessionrc in the past, it sets my mouse sensitivity |
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| 10:13.07 | Lyberta | rudi_s, yes, that worked, thanks |
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| 10:24.37 | rudi_s | np |
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| 11:51.03 | petn-randall | doublehp: python package installer |
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| 11:51.26 | petn-randall | doublehp: look at 'man pip' or the package description of python-pip. |
| 11:51.40 | doublehp | ok, thanks |
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| 12:06.18 | mac- | hey, I have added user to additional group (it is not his primaty group) but now after he relogin with ssh he can't see this new group when do id or groups |
| 12:06.21 | mac- | ControlMaster is not set in ssh_config |
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| 12:09.02 | SwedeMike | brainacid: yes. |
| 12:09.06 | brainacid | Im running antiX 17 (Debian 9 non-systemd) on a old P4 and runs well |
| 12:09.14 | brainacid | Firefox runs good lol |
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| 12:09.56 | brainacid | its interesting that a lot of contributors are from Europe... like linux was invented in Finland |
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| 12:39.18 | duser | I am sure the passwd file mode is 600. What goes wrong? |
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| 13:14.19 | filePeter | Hey guys, I have my swap drive encrypted with a random password and just ugraded to stretch. /etc/cryptab and /etc/fstab have been left unchanged. Unfortunately during boot time I get the error: âFaild to find logical volume "laptop_vg/swap_crypt", WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to device scanning.â I suspect that the swap drive has not been brought up by cryptsetup. - |
| 13:14.25 | filePeter | Ironically my similarly configured /tmp/ gets up perfectly. |
| 13:14.27 | filePeter | Do you guys have an idea? |
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| 13:26.50 | cybrNaut | do PPAs work on debian? I seem to recall that they don't |
| 13:27.36 | cybrNaut | the installation for anbox (from anbox.io) involves a "snap" package, which seems to make use of a PPA |
| 13:27.47 | FinalX | PPA scripts are nothing more than adding the key and repositories, but a PPA can only have Ubuntu release packages, not Debian. |
| 13:28.27 | FinalX | (official Ubuntu repositories only accept packages for releases of themselves iirc) |
| 13:28.44 | FinalX | but PPA is an Ubuntu-invention, so you're probably asking on the wrong channel :p |
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| 13:30.54 | jelly | cybrNaut: automated PPA builds only build for ubuntu releases; if a package works for debian it's accidental |
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| 13:33.53 | cybrNaut | so to be clear, will this install fail? https://anbox.io/ |
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| 13:34.13 | cybrNaut | notice that in the screencast there is a PPA involved |
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| 13:34.31 | cybrNaut | had i not seen that screencast, i would have ran that "snap" command |
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| 13:35.11 | jelly | most likely |
| 13:35.12 | FinalX | ...who knows? we're not the authors of the software and it says it runs on any GNU/LInux. the URL you give is for the entire site, btw. It doesn't mention PPA at all, but indeed only snap. |
| 13:36.05 | FinalX | lxc :: ~ » docker run -it debian:stretch bash -i |
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| 13:36.07 | FinalX | let's find out :p |
| 13:36.38 | FinalX | cybrNaut: https://docs.snapcraft.io/core/install-debian |
| 13:36.38 | cybrNaut | it's a bit astonishing, b/c it seems to defeat the purpose of a snap |
| 13:36.53 | cybrNaut | maybe i'm misunderstanding snaps.. never installed a snap pack |
| 13:36.54 | FinalX | snap is not ubuntu-specific and doesn't mention the use of PPA's anywhere |
| 13:37.10 | FinalX | "On Debian snapd is available as part of the testing (currently âstretchâ) and unstable (âsidâ) versions. It is currently not available in any stable version but will be soon." |
| 13:37.18 | cybrNaut | FinalX: the problem is not snap itself (i already installed that from official debian repos) |
| 13:37.40 | cybrNaut | the problem i'm anticipating is with the snap pack for anbox |
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| 13:38.12 | cybrNaut | FinalX: that's an old comment.. stable is stretch now, and it's available now |
| 13:38.15 | FinalX | then why not just give it a go? it says it works with anything that has snap |
| 13:38.43 | FinalX | it's the official Snap website that states that, it'll need updating, but I merely meant that it's available in stretch. |
| 13:38.58 | FinalX | did you do any kind of researching yourself at all? did you even give it a go? |
| 13:39.05 | FinalX | why start about PPA's if you haven't even tried? |
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| 13:39.16 | cybrNaut | i just found this https://discourse.anbox.io/t/anbox-modules-dkms-port-for-debian/33/2 |
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| 13:41.02 | cybrNaut | FinalX: first you say "just run it" then you say "do some research first" |
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| 13:41.15 | cybrNaut | research is what i'm doing.. that's why i'm here |
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| 13:42.11 | FinalX | "research" meaning _read the website_ of the software you're trying to install. read what software you need and what the caveats are. if you have a problem with Debian, we can help you. you don't even know if you have a problem, and we are not the authors of the software nor authors of Snap. |
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| 13:42.32 | FinalX | this is #debian, not #anbox or #snap.. it has nothing to do with Debian.. |
| 13:43.04 | cybrNaut | "it has nothing to do with Debian" <= exactly what i came here to determine |
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| 13:43.16 | cybrNaut | PPAs make it debian-irrelevant |
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| 13:44.35 | cybrNaut | and also determine if a snap pack "just works" on debian the way it's supposed to... apparently the answer is "no" |
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| 14:00.00 | Neel | hello |
| 14:00.03 | Neel | Unable to reload configuration: Failed to open "/etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf": No such file or dire |
| 14:00.07 | Neel | pls help me |
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| 14:02.01 | SirLagz | is there no XFCE panel applet to control Alsa audio levels? |
| 14:02.04 | SirLagz | I can't seem to find one |
| 14:03.33 | Neel | jelly-home: help |
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| 14:06.17 | RoyK | Neel: I guess you'll have to create that file, then |
| 14:06.24 | Neel | RoyK: pls help |
| 14:06.25 | RoyK | ,v at-spi2 |
| 14:06.26 | judd | No package named 'at-spi2' was found in amd64. |
| 14:06.34 | RoyK | Neel: I have no idea what at-spi2 is |
| 14:06.37 | Neel | i dont know how to setup tht |
| 14:06.49 | Neel | :C |
| 14:06.51 | RoyK | !ask |
| 14:06.52 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 14:07.08 | sillyslux | Neel, pinging like you are will only get you kicked |
| 14:07.25 | Neel | i want to get my sound back on my xfce desktop |
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| 14:07.45 | Neel | and on doing journalctl -xb --priority= warning i get tht info |
| 14:07.54 | Neel | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:07.55 | RoyK | Neel: sorry - I have no idea - perhaps someone else knows |
| 14:08.03 | Neel | www org.a11y.Bus[835]: Unable to reload configuration: Failed to open "/etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf": No such file or dire |
| 14:08.21 | Neel | this two messages show tht pulseaudio is fscked up |
| 14:08.25 | Neel | pls help |
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| 14:09.40 | Neel | cmon |
| 14:09.49 | Neel | i asked in ##linux also |
| 14:09.52 | Neel | :/ |
| 14:09.54 | sillyslux | Neel, say: jump! |
| 14:09.59 | Neel | :| |
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| 14:10.02 | RoyK | !patience |
| 14:10.03 | dpkg | The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. |
| 14:10.06 | petn-randall | Neel: Please be patient, and stop spamming the channel. |
| 14:10.09 | petn-randall | Also |
| 14:10.15 | petn-randall | !tell Neel -about crosspost |
| 14:10.36 | Neel | T_T |
| 14:10.46 | Neel | i just need some help setting up tht file |
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| 14:12.07 | fast | I'v created a stretch usb stick as described in the Stretch Installation Guide as described in Chapter 4.3.3. When booting from this usb stick the stick gets detected as sda which then latern on leads to the problem that grub doenst install to the hard disk. When I use a jessie stick (created the same way) the stick gets detected as sdb. What could cause such behaviour? |
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| 14:12.49 | Neel | fast: random dev names are nothing uncommon |
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| 14:14.00 | fast | Right. I forgot to mention i use a preseed file for the installation. So i have to rely on the stick beeing sdb and this worked everytime with jessie. |
| 14:15.07 | Neel | fast: on installing grub during a fresh install, before proceeding to install grub, start a shell and df -h it |
| 14:15.25 | Neel | theres a option to start a shell |
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| 14:15.49 | Neel | and from the listings find the appropriate name and install grub on it |
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| 14:17.43 | fast | I dont get how this would be helpfull. The disk will be sda on next boot causing a faulty grub config? |
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| 14:21.26 | petn-randall | fast: grub doesn't care about device names, it acts on UUIDs, so if you do the equivalent of "grub-install /dev/sdb" during installation, it should still boot fine. |
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| 14:21.57 | petn-randall | fast: Obviously, your /etc/fstab should also contain only UUIDs, so if you change it during preseed, make sure to not use device names. |
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| 14:23.39 | PrincessZelda | Will Debian get a signed bootloader? iirc it was promised some week before the first official strecth release .. |
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| 14:23.50 | PrincessZelda | * stretch |
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| 14:25.59 | fast | petn-randall: Right, but i would need to know the UUID of the hardrive? |
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| 14:26.38 | celyr | mhhh |
| 14:26.44 | celyr | why nodejs package has not npm ? |
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| 14:29.42 | petn-randall | PrincessZelda: Last I've heard it wasn't part of the hard release goals for stretch. You can probably still do it by hand if your UEFI supports user keys. |
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| 14:37.33 | petn-randall | celyr: TL;DR: Because it's crap. |
| 14:37.39 | petn-randall | !why is npm not in testing |
| 14:37.40 | dpkg | npm is not in testing for the reasons listed in https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=npm |
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| 14:39.55 | RoyK | celyr: just setup a vm with the npm stuff to isolate it from the stable stuff |
| 14:42.00 | SirLagz | anyone know if there's any way to configure xfce4-volumed ? not sure if I can change the device it controls on the fly or not. There's no man page and google hasn't helped =/ |
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| 14:42.35 | celyr | RoyK, it's already a vm |
| 14:42.48 | celyr | that I use for development |
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| 14:44.24 | RoyK | celyr: then install it from source or whatever |
| 14:45.22 | celyr | i'm planning to do that |
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| 14:45.48 | celyr | I just |
| 14:46.02 | celyr | think that there should be a meta package that downloads the npm sources and installs them |
| 14:46.08 | celyr | and then removes it if needed |
| 14:46.40 | RoyK | celyr: it may be an easy way to make a package of it, though |
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| 15:07.30 | Bombo | hi |
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| 15:09.38 | Bombo | how does dpkg decide what locales to install? i did 'dpkg -i audacity-data*deb' but it didn't install /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/audacity.mo i had to extract that manually with -x |
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| 15:36.58 | petn-randall | Bombo: Why are you installing audicity with dpkg? |
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| 15:38.58 | celyr | is Audi city some kind of special place where everyone owns an audi or i'm missing smth |
| 15:39.31 | petn-randall | *audacity, indeed :) |
| 15:39.59 | jelly-home | celyr: also, anything with a number less than 4 does not count |
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| 15:51.20 | Bombo | petn-randall: because apt didn't install a locale |
| 15:51.47 | Bombo | petn-randall: so i tried with dpkg from apt cache |
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| 15:54.39 | Bombo | petn-randall: can i install the missing locale with apt? |
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| 15:56.11 | gpunk | in a sane system, locale get setup, not installed |
| 15:56.41 | jelly-home | Bombo: dpkg doesn't really care about locales, only apps do |
| 15:56.42 | gpunk | if i understood the problem |
| 15:56.59 | jelly-home | if you got an error trying to install something, |
| 15:57.01 | jelly-home | !bat |
| 15:57.01 | dpkg | In order to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, apt or aptitude we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 16:03.48 | petn-randall | Bombo: That makes zero sense. If it's shipped in the .deb, apt will install it. What jelly says. |
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| 16:05.41 | jelly-home | gpunk: honestly debian's way of not installing all the system (glibc) locales only makes sense for tiny embedded machines now. It's a LOT easier to just install locales-all than have to mess with locales package on normal workstations or servers |
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| 16:06.50 | gamera | hi, does anyone know how to create a shortcut to an umounted drive on the gnome desktop |
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| 16:07.43 | gpunk | i'd create a shurtcut to the folder it will be mounted in |
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| 16:08.18 | gamera | I mean so I can quick mount it by clicking it |
| 16:08.35 | gamera | is there a way to do that |
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| 16:08.50 | gpunk | yeah you got to fidle with fstab then |
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| 16:09.01 | gpunk | but usually stuff get mounted automatically |
| 16:09.04 | gamera | where can I find out how much fiddlin' |
| 16:09.10 | gpunk | depending on your setup |
| 16:09.11 | gamera | not this |
| 16:09.20 | gpunk | man fstab |
| 16:09.23 | gamera | I have to mount it, and it's better, because it spins down when not in use |
| 16:09.49 | gamera | the ssd in this laptop uses enough power and I take this thing around |
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| 16:13.12 | Bombo | jelly-home: well ok, but what else could be the reason for not installing files? |
| 16:13.24 | Bombo | petn-randall: yes i'm wondering too |
| 16:13.27 | Bombo | $ dpkg -L audacity-data|grep "/LC_MESSAGES/audacity.mo"|wc -l |
| 16:13.28 | Bombo | 54 |
| 16:13.37 | Bombo | none installed |
| 16:14.07 | Bombo | i just removed it with apt-get, then installed it again |
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| 16:15.21 | pentiumone133 | I am having an issue with tcpd holding open host.allow and hosts.deny files when connections are made to a mosquitto mqtt broker |
| 16:15.37 | pentiumone133 | i have tried googling to just straight up disable tcpd but cant find any resources |
| 16:16.20 | pentiumone133 | syslog is filled with the following error: mosquitto: warning: cannot open /etc/hosts.deny: Too many open files |
| 16:17.27 | Bombo | $ dpkg --verify audacity-data |
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| 16:17.48 | Bombo | i get ??5?????? /usr/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES/audacity.mo for every missing .mo |
| 16:18.01 | Bombo | i wonder what ??5?????? means |
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| 16:19.17 | petn-randall | Bombo: Start with pasting the data from the !bat factoid. |
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| 16:30.14 | abd5932 | Hello, for certain configuration computations I need to determine disk space used by the system (excluding users' data which resides in /home/ and /chroots - /home/user is bind mounted to /chroots/user/home/user). What is the best way to determine that disk space? With which command? Thank you! |
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| 16:32.13 | BlessJah | is there single source of truth regarding preseed d-i options available on recent debian versions (jessie and stretch)? |
| 16:32.58 | celyr | abd5932, idk i guess the easies way is to use du and list the dirs you want to include ? |
| 16:33.07 | celyr | it doesn't look like a long job |
| 16:33.53 | celyr | you can use also the --exclude flag |
| 16:34.08 | celyr | but I guess it's too hard to read the man and I'm not going to do it for you |
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| 16:34.26 | abd5932 | celyr: thank you! that's enough :) |
| 16:34.30 | BlessJah | every piece of documentation I came across seemed to have only subset of those |
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| 16:36.39 | jelly-home | BlessJah: assuming you've looked at docs, #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net (irc.debian.org) is _the_ place where d-i people hang out |
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| 16:37.31 | BlessJah | jelly-home: could you point which docs are THE docs? |
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| 16:38.14 | BlessJah | debian.org's docs, especially appendix B? |
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| 16:40.51 | jelly-home | hmm |
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| 16:41.30 | BlessJah | (https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/index.html.en) |
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| 16:46.43 | jelly-home | I guess install guide _is_ the official d-i docs yeah |
| 16:46.45 | jelly-home | !d-i |
| 16:46.46 | dpkg | Debian 9 "Stretch is now the "stable" Debian release. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/debian-installer/ for images. Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . If you want to make custom install CDs, start with d-i. IRC: #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net. See also <errata>, <g-i>. |
| 16:47.46 | BlessJah | ok, thanks |
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| 16:53.08 | Schwarzbaer | Hi. I'm getting started with JavaScript, and noticed that *apparently* there's no package for npm? I've googled a bit, and when the best thing I found was "Run this install script from npmjs.org", I thought I'd better ask people who know their stuff. |
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| 16:53.46 | petn-randall | Schwarzbaer: npm isn't in Debian due to lack of quality. |
| 16:53.55 | petn-randall | !why is npm not in testing |
| 16:53.55 | dpkg | npm is not in testing for the reasons listed in https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=npm |
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| 16:56.16 | sillyslux | do you get yarn instead? |
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| 16:57.01 | jhutchins | Schwarzbaer: npm is a package management system, it takes you outside of the debian packaging system, installing packages that aren't managed by dpkg/apt. |
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| 16:57.33 | jhutchins | Schwarzbaer: The npm packages have nowhere near the quality control that debian packages have. |
| 16:57.43 | sillyslux | Schwarzbaer, this is what i do: download current from nodejs.org and unpack in /usr/local, and i do that regularly... |
| 16:58.10 | jhutchins | Schwarzbaer: That said, if you're committed to javascript development or a javascript project as your primary use of the server, go for it. |
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| 16:59.07 | sillyslux | jhutchins, there's npm -i and there's npm -g -i, the former is needed for pretty much everything in node projects |
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| 17:00.52 | jhutchins | There are several projects where it's better to go direct to the upstream source. WordPress, Drupal, other things that just don't percolate through the Debian testing system quickly enough, but do have their own quality control. |
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| 17:01.51 | Schwarzbaer | jhutchins, the same holds true for Python's pip though. |
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| 17:03.41 | Schwarzbaer | sillyslux, eeewwwwwww... But thanks. I guess I should better get used to "eww" being par for the course? |
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| 17:05.13 | sillyslux | Schwarzbaer, there is are at least one "considered good solution" out there namely nvm get more help in #node.js |
| 17:06.23 | sillyslux | i wouldn't be surprised if it was using the same source though |
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| 17:07.55 | sillyslux | Schwarzbaer, https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#nvm |
| 17:08.24 | sillyslux | builds from source... |
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| 17:12.35 | sillyslux | hah... :( curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_9.x | sudo -E bash - |
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| 17:49.56 | ngc0202_ | hi all, I just switched to gnome and I can't seem to get my lock screen to come up |
| 17:50.56 | ngc0202` | I've tried the shortcut as both Super+L and Ctrl+Alt+L and neither work |
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| 17:51.12 | ngc0202` | I've also checked the dconf-editor for some relevant settings under lockout |
| 17:51.26 | Schwarzbaer | Thanks, sillyslux |
| 17:51.54 | sillyslux | Schwarzbaer, now what did you use? |
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| 17:53.28 | Schwarzbaer | sillyslux, https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_9.x |
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| 17:53.48 | sillyslux | Schwarzbaer, also for a development env, i'd really recommend to keep it updated since i believe this is still evolving https://nodejs.org/en/docs/inspector/#chrome-devtools-55 |
| 17:54.00 | ngc0202` | is the middle button in the power menu between Settings and Shutoff supposed to be to lock? |
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| 17:55.06 | sillyslux | oh and lol, curl-sL |sudo -E bash - is a very bad habit |
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| 17:55.50 | sillyslux | i don't think it should be promoted in a place like nodejs.org |
| 17:56.08 | Schwarzbaer | I know that... "Never run code off the web without reviewing first." |
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| 17:56.50 | Schwarzbaer | Also, now I have an npm. nvm is JS's version of virtualenv, AFAIK? |
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| 17:57.27 | sillyslux | nvm should be a simple bash script |
| 17:57.37 | sillyslux | but i haven't looked at it yet |
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| 17:58.06 | Schwarzbaer | Well, so is virtualenv. I meant that as a description of its functionality. |
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| 17:58.41 | sillyslux | dunno, for help on node.js you should really join ##javascript or #node.js |
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| 17:59.02 | Schwarzbaer | Will do. |
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| 18:57.17 | xbow | lo |
| 18:57.33 | xbow | anyone got amdgpu-pro working on stretch? |
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| 18:58.48 | xbow | http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx |
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| 18:59.15 | xbow | ^this one |
| 18:59.28 | towo` | xbow, you see debian as supported os anywhere there? |
| 18:59.50 | xbow | towo`: no |
| 18:59.50 | towo` | and what makes you think, you need amdgpu-pro? |
| 19:00.17 | xbow | towo`: well i needed it and i got it working |
| 19:00.30 | xbow | just my two cents |
| 19:00.36 | annadane | xbow, installing outside the debian repositories is generally a bad idea |
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| 19:01.10 | xbow | annadane: thx for the reminder |
| 19:01.12 | xbow | =) |
| 19:01.31 | xbow | is just annoyed (again) by amd/ati |
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| 19:02.07 | towo` | the easyest why installing amdgpu-pro is using the steamos repo, not supported by debian, but works |
| 19:02.18 | towo` | s/why/way |
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| 19:02.53 | xbow | no worries..just wanted to provide if someone is interessted |
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| 19:05.31 | xbow | and of note got it working with HDMI soudn |
| 19:05.34 | xbow | sound even |
| 19:06.20 | xbow | seemed to be a major issue with the amd drivers |
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| 19:11.20 | jhutchins | xbow: Write it up on a blog or wiki somewhere? |
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| 19:11.45 | xbow | jhutchins: should do that yep |
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| 19:12.18 | xbow | brb |
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| 19:15.43 | xbow | re |
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| 19:15.52 | xbow | busy chan here |
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| 19:18.16 | noahmg123 | How can I view the event/input log? |
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| 19:18.36 | xbow | noahmg123: dmesg -T ? |
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| 19:20.10 | noahmg123 | xbow: I actually think I just found it. It's xinput, I think. |
| 19:20.37 | xbow | noahmg123: ic, great |
| 19:20.57 | xbow | noahmg123: depends what kind of log you're searching for |
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| 19:21.58 | noahmg123 | xbow: /sys/class/input/inputX |
| 19:22.20 | noahmg123 | xbow: the one I want isn't showing up in xinput :p |
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| 19:22.37 | xbow | hmmm |
| 19:22.56 | teraflops | noahmg123: I still dont get what you want |
| 19:23.15 | xbow | noahmg123: what device do you want? |
| 19:24.27 | noahmg123 | I have a two-in-one laptop. The lid switch is an actual input. I want to see the log. I would use xinput test, but it's not on xinput. But I know it recognizes it as a "device". |
| 19:25.11 | xbow | noahmg123: first try to identify the device with "lspci" or "lsusb" |
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| 19:27.38 | noahmg123 | xbow: it doesn't show up in those, but /sys/class/input/input1/name says "Lid Switch" and my keyboard is disabled when the lid moves past 180 degrees. So it's obviously a trigger somewhere. |
| 19:28.04 | xbow | noahmg123: ok ic |
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| 19:28.45 | xbow | noahmg123: you want to change the behaviour of the lid switch then? |
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| 19:29.22 | noahmg123 | xbow: I want to extend it. It disables the keyboard, but not the touchpad |
| 19:29.41 | xbow | hmmm |
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| 19:37.19 | noahmg123 | xbow: any ideas? |
| 19:38.59 | xbow | noahmg123: acpi issue would dig into that but tbh i don't know for sure |
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| 19:39.30 | noahmg123 | xbow: acpi issue? |
| 19:39.56 | xbow | noahmg123: the lid is acpi related..search for that |
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| 19:40.33 | noahmg123 | xbow: search for it where? |
| 19:40.40 | xbow | noahmg123: in general you can manage such things with the power options but in your case it's special |
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| 19:41.08 | noahmg123 | xbow: yeah. I get it, sorta. |
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| 19:41.31 | xbow | noahmg123: kk |
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| 19:42.52 | noahmg123 | xbow: thinking now, it may not be the Lid Switch but idk what it'd be then. It also recognizes my gyroscope which is weird because a previous install of Debian didn't. |
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| 19:43.45 | xbow | noahmg123: kk |
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| 19:47.20 | noahmg123 | xbow: it's actually was in xinput. It's under one device called WMI hotkeys. |
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| 19:47.40 | xbow | noahmg123: nice dude |
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| 19:50.56 | noahmg123 | Thanks |
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| 20:42.11 | inSync_ | 1so what happened with debian, just installed a clean system and boom |
| 20:42.15 | inSync_ | no netstat |
| 20:42.26 | inSync_ | ssh acts funny |
| 20:42.33 | petemc | ss replaced netstat |
| 20:42.39 | inSync_ | are these new 'features' |
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| 20:42.51 | inSync_ | petemc: ss? will check it out thanks |
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| 20:43.22 | petemc | how does ssh act funny? |
| 20:43.34 | inSync_ | what about openssh, what happened, i always configure ssh key auth, but this time it does not work |
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| 20:43.59 | inSync_ | i even uncommented a couple of lines in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 20:44.17 | petemc | you dont need to for keys to work |
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| 20:44.37 | petemc | !debug sshd |
| 20:44.37 | dpkg | To debug sshd (server), run this as root on the server: "/usr/sbin/sshd -d -p 2222". Then use "ssh -p 2222 username@servername" on the client. See also <slow ssh connect>, <ssh permissions>. |
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| 20:45.13 | inSync_ | but it's a clean install |
| 20:45.23 | petemc | so? |
| 20:45.57 | inSync_ | openssh used to work with key auth out of the box |
| 20:46.04 | petemc | there is potential to incorrectly set up ssh keys |
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| 20:46.33 | inSync_ | i usually edit /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys |
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| 20:46.51 | inSync_ | and add a line with the public key |
| 20:46.56 | inSync_ | done that for years |
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| 20:47.16 | inSync_ | but not this time |
| 20:47.20 | inSync_ | lol |
| 20:47.23 | petemc | works for me |
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| 20:48.52 | inSync_ | in fact, usually i disable password authentication |
| 20:49.22 | inSync_ | i just installed a fresh system just to doublecheck |
| 20:49.32 | inSync_ | but the behaviour is the same |
| 20:49.41 | petemc | see above for help with debugging |
| 20:50.18 | inSync_ | the machine is behind NAT, so i only have access to the specific port that is forwarded |
| 20:50.32 | inSync_ | can't connect to other ports |
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| 20:50.52 | petemc | so stop ssh |
| 20:51.07 | petemc | and run the above on available port |
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| 20:52.09 | inSync_ | how can i stop ssh if i'm there by ssh...? |
| 20:53.06 | nkuttler | inSync_: why do you want to stop it? |
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| 20:53.27 | nkuttler | eh.. |
| 20:53.27 | inSync_ | nkuttler: petemc was sugesting it |
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| 20:56.07 | inSync_ | ChallengeResponseAuthentication no |
| 20:56.13 | inSync_ | is this necessary? |
| 20:59.03 | inSync_ | in sshd_config |
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| 21:01.14 | inSync_ | got the problem |
| 21:01.20 | inSync_ | a dawmn typo |
| 21:01.39 | inSync_ | in the authorized keys file |
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| 21:02.20 | inSync_ | it started with sh-rsa instead of ssh-rsa |
| 21:02.37 | inSync_ | thanks petemc nkuttler |
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| 21:22.39 | awwal | ffmpeg is default yet , eh? |
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| 21:24.17 | teraflops | what do you mean by default? |
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| 21:24.25 | teraflops | iirc both are in the repos |
| 21:25.18 | teraflops | if you want ffmpeg you type ffmpeg, if you want libav you type avconv |
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| 21:27.05 | awwal | well, I was refering to this https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/07/msg00001.html |
| 21:27.23 | awwal | nvm; I havent found that link before asking :P |
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| 21:27.51 | teraflops | 2015 ^ |
| 21:28.11 | awwal | #729203 |
| 21:28.13 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/729203 in wnpp (closed): «ITP: ffmpeg -- complete, cross-platform solution to record, convert and stream audio and video»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2013-11-10; last modified: 2014-10-15. |
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| 21:49.47 | easytoremember | Hi all. I am trying to modify Android to block extraction of APKs by other APPs. I was wondering if someone here could check my question out and offer some input. I'd really appreciate it. Thank you. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47457564/forward-locking-and-protecting-apks-in-custom-rom |
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| 21:50.07 | easytoremember | P.S. I know this is #debian, but I'm sure some tinkering and kernel hobbyists/professionals might be interested |
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| 22:06.46 | illiquld | http://bit.ly/2Bg75Em - this tutorial shows a good way to become a real Debian user |
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| 22:17.43 | RedSoxFan07 | That's NSFW |
| 22:18.09 | RedSoxFan07 | Would have been nice to distinguish as such. Not something you want to open in front of family. |
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| 22:25.34 | RoyK | RedSoxFan07: spammer |
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| 22:27.06 | petemc | !ops illiquid_ |
| 22:27.07 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: petemc complains about a problem (see above) |
| 22:27.15 | illiquid_ | fuck off dick |
| 22:27.28 | illiquid_ | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: petemc complains about a problem (see above) |
| 22:28.22 | ryouma | the real debian user was the giveaway |
| 22:29.22 | dTal | NSFW? NSFL |
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| 22:33.50 | inSync | well done petemc, did not knew about that bot command |
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| 22:35.00 | petemc | its usually better to use it with a (good) reason specified |
| 22:35.27 | inSync | cool |
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| 22:48.13 | RedSoxFan07 | I'm still having screen tearing on XFCE, even after installing Compton and creating the config file as per these instructions: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144468 |
| 22:48.21 | RedSoxFan07 | Any ideas? |
| 22:48.38 | RedSoxFan07 | I'm running XFCE 4.12. I think it might actually be XFCE 4.12.3. |
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| 22:50.40 | inSync | maybe driver issues? |
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| 22:57.37 | RedSoxFan07 | inSync: It's possible. I'm running on a Dell Optiplex 380 with Intel i915 graphics and xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed |
| 22:57.53 | jhutchins | RedSoxFan07: You installed it on Debian? |
| 22:58.03 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: Yeah. |
| 22:58.20 | jhutchins | RedSoxFan07: Ah, problems before and after compton. |
| 22:58.32 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: Yeah. |
| 22:58.41 | petn-randall | RedSoxFan07: xserver-xorg-video-intel is obsolete, check the package description. |
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| 22:59.10 | jhutchins | RedSoxFan07: /var/log/Xorg.0.log is very noisy, but it might have some clues buried in it. |
| 22:59.53 | RedSoxFan07 | Here's the description for xserver-xorg-video-intel: |
| 22:59.55 | RedSoxFan07 | Description: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver |
| 22:59.55 | RedSoxFan07 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:01.37 | RedSoxFan07 | Here's what I got when trying to show the output of that log file: cat: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: No such file or directory |
| 23:02.14 | jhutchins | RedSoxFan07: You'll notice that i915 is not in that list. |
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| 23:02.37 | jhutchins | Oh, no, I;m an idiot, there it is. |
| 23:02.38 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: The log file doesn't exist. |
| 23:02.52 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: At least on my machine, that log file doesn't exist. |
| 23:02.59 | jhutchins | RedSoxFan07: No /vr/log/Xorg*? |
| 23:03.19 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: nope |
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| 23:04.38 | jhutchins | RedSoxFan07: There might be $HOME/.xsession-errors - buy why wouldn't you have a log? |
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| 23:05.49 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: I'm not sure. |
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| 23:06.16 | mndl | nice link http://bit.do/dUwAQ |
| 23:06.26 | mndl | not a virus |
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| 23:06.54 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: But I think you're right about that xorg intel driver not being current. It says it's not recommended on machines that are from 2007 or newer: "The use of this driver is discouraged if your hw is new enough (ca. |
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| 23:07.11 | jhutchins | !i915 |
| 23:07.12 | dpkg | [intel-gfx] The intel <Xorg> driver provides 2D/3D support for Intel integrated graphics chipsets, including the i810, 915{G,GM}, 945{G,GM,GME}, 946GZ, 965{G,GM,Q}, G33, Q33, Q35, G35, GM45, G45, Q45, G43 and G41; the <GMA 500> is not supported. Packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-intel, see also <intel-gfx shadow>. http://x.org/wiki/IntelGraphicsDriver https://01.org/linuxgraphics/ #intel-gfx on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 23:07.52 | jhutchins | RedSoxFan07: Let's check your chipset, lspci -nn, grab the eight-character identifier. |
| 23:08.25 | jhutchins | RedSoxFan07: It looks like systemd may be kindnaping the log now. |
| 23:08.34 | jhutchins | Soooo helpful... |
| 23:08.39 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: 8086:2e30 |
| 23:08.53 | jhutchins | ,pciid 8086:2e30 |
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| 23:08.53 | judd | [8086:2e30] is '4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'ata-generic' in stretch. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:2e30 |
| 23:08.56 | mndl | nice link not a virus http://bit.do/dUwAQ - i am illiquid and they think it's not me, sucking bastards. |
| 23:09.04 | rosa | is anyone experienced asf with ld.so and its source code? |
| 23:09.06 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port [8086:2e31] (rev 03) |
| 23:09.06 | RedSoxFan07 | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2e32] (rev 03) |
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| 23:09.22 | jhutchins | ,pciid 8086:2e31 |
| 23:09.24 | judd | [8086:2e31] is '4 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'snd-hda-intel', 'ata-generic' in stretch. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:2e31 |
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| 23:10.21 | jhutchins | Ah, integrated chipsets... |
| 23:12.27 | jhutchins | RedSoxFan07: Also try ~/.local/share/xorg |
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| 23:13.00 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: no dice |
| 23:13.12 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: What do you think I should do? Should I just give up on Compton? Should I also uninstall the xorg driver as per the sugggestion in the driver description? "The use of this driver is discouraged if your hw is new enough (ca.2007 and newer). You can try uninstalling this driver and let the |
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| 23:13.12 | jhutchins | RedSoxFan07: journalctl -e _COMM=Xorg |
| 23:13.43 | jhutchins | RedSoxFan07: Might be worth a try, you can always reinstall it. |
| 23:13.47 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: Logs begin at Thu 2017-11-23 16:13:18 EST, end at Thu 2017-11-23 18:08:26 EST. -- |
| 23:13.48 | RedSoxFan07 | -- No entries -- |
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| 23:15.00 | jhutchins | Great, it's one of those things that chagnes. |
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| 23:15.36 | jhutchins | journalctl -e _COMM=Xorg.bin |
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| 23:18.06 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: After getting rid of compton and reinstalling the intel xorg driver, I'm still getting screen tearing. The interesting thing about it is that it tears when I scroll slowly, but not when I scroll quickly. |
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| 23:20.02 | jhutchins | RedSoxFan07: I'm pretty much out of ideas. I think the instructions meant you to remove the driver and try to run without it. |
| 23:20.14 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: I'll give that a shot. |
| 23:20.18 | jhutchins | RedSoxFan07: It could be the monitor sync settings or something. |
| 23:20.32 | jhutchins | I'm pretty much out of ideas, gotta go feed the horses anyway. |
| 23:20.40 | RedSoxFan07 | jhutchins: Hasta la vista |
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| 23:25.01 | ilq | YOU KNOW GUYS I THINK INSTEAD OF CAPS-LOCK, WE SHOULD START SAYING CAPS-LOL, BECAUSE IT CERTAINLY IS AMUSING WATCHING CERTAIN UPTIGHT INTERNET NERDS GET ALL AGITATED OVER A BUNCH OF UPERCASE LETTERZ. |
| 23:25.08 | ilq | Typing laughter on IRC!While I understand that your knowledge of the world outside the Frances-strewn shards that, on any other day, would have comprised your double-wide is rather, shall we say, limited; Here in the big scary city we "America Haters" like to call civilization, there are rules that govern behavior and, to put a finer point on it, internet humor. And, although one could argue that, having missed out on |
| 23:25.09 | ilq | the more elegant points in life such as color television or refrigeration, that you should be exempted from said governances - I find it best to point out that ignorance of the law is no excuse.This fact, combined with your abhorent neoconservative indoctrination only leads one to conclude that your mental stature, while irrefutably suited towards a more custodial vocation, does not serve you well here on the fifth-gear |
| 23:25.09 | ilq | world of the "information superhighway." Indeed, I would be remiss if I did not instead point you to a more, shall we say, rewarding hobby such as admiring your reflection in the murky waters of the local "crick" or, if you fancy, arguing with trees. |
| 23:25.09 | ilq | slitting open the urethra, cauterizing the prostrate, inflicting corporal punishment, blistering the penis with caustic acid, flaying the penile skin with razor blades, sewing the prepuce shut with metal wire, encasing the genitals in plaster or in lockable metal cages, or fitting the penis with penile rings studded with sharp metallic teeth to discourage erections |
| 23:25.09 | ilq | The doctor performed fabulously with his textbook execution of a four-point circumcision as he burst into my wife's room in the maternity ward, pinched a clamp around my son's foreskin, and inserted an instrument between the foreskin and glans. I covered my ears as the infant's shrieks intensified, and the doctor was gracious enough to quickly tear the foreskin lengthwise as my little son's head shook back and forth ohh |
| 23:25.09 | ilq | yeah |
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| 23:26.37 | dTal | lot of crappy spam today |
| 23:27.04 | dTal | must be lonely resentful people getting drunk by themselves on thanksgiving |
| 23:27.17 | television | meow |
| 23:27.25 | television | probably |
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| 23:32.53 | pinky | anyone have any recent experience with particular SCSI cards? |
| 23:33.04 | pinky | need to get some data off some old drives so want to ebay one |
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| 23:33.20 | pinky | hoping to find one that still works in a modern kernel :) |
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| 23:35.06 | RedSoxFan07 | pinky: I was wondering about that about a year ago, but didn't find anything. |
| 23:35.13 | pinky | :( |
| 23:35.38 | pinky | i have one that i ebayed that has trouble, but i really should give it a try in an ancient kernel |
| 23:35.48 | pinky | it looks fine visually but came to me in a non static bubblewrap |
| 23:35.58 | pinky | was only $15 so.. its an adaptec that uses aic7xxx i think |
| 23:37.11 | RedSoxFan07 | pinky: I think your best bet would be to check Amazon. |
| 23:37.25 | pinky | didn't want to spend $50-100, but i did look there :( |
| 23:37.59 | RedSoxFan07 | pinky: Another issue is the type of SCSI you want to use. There are a number of different types of SCSI. |
| 23:38.30 | RedSoxFan07 | pinky: There's a small one, a big one, a short one, a long one, a faster one, a slower one, etcetera. |
| 23:38.47 | pinky | yeah, not 100% sure but I thought that you can slow down the speed |
| 23:38.52 | pinky | so if the cable fits both the card and the HD |
| 23:38.59 | pinky | and you set the speed at the lowest, hopefully that'd work? :) |
| 23:39.13 | pinky | i did set the speeds in the card bios to the lowest (10mbps i think) but still i get errors |
| 23:39.20 | pinky | but actually i'm going to build a squeeze livecd and try that |
| 23:40.00 | RedSoxFan07 | pinky: I bet you're right |
| 23:40.07 | RedSoxFan07 | pinky: But the connectors are different |
| 23:40.11 | pinky | i mean even the card bios works ok.. but i get crazy errors in buster/sid, and in stretch |
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| 23:40.32 | pinky | and a recent fbsd just hangs once it sees the card in the kernel messages |
| 23:40.39 | RedSoxFan07 | pinky: Most of the SCSI variations have different connectors, so getting the SCSI variant right is important. |
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| 23:49.20 | pinky | E: Failed getting release file http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/Release |
| 23:49.23 | pinky | sigh |
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