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| 00:20.16 | polaris | Hello there, I just bought an HP laptop which has a Realtek 8723DE wireless card, installed Debian and notice there are no drivers for Linux yet. Does anyone know if there will be drivers soon or if there is a walkaround? |
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| 00:23.00 | bazhang | is that PCI or USB |
| 00:23.57 | bazhang | give us the eight character code from either lspci or lsusb, depending on which |
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| 01:51.51 | The_Wraith | I want to install the current git version of opensc (on ubuntu-14.4 actually). That newer version would replace the currently installed (and latest in the repository), how to I make apt aware of the change, so that It would continue to keep the correct dependencies (not make anything required auto-removable and allow programs depending on opensc to still be installed)? |
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| 02:04.17 | RoyK | The_Wraith: I don't quite see how that is related to debian |
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| 02:10.22 | The_Wraith | Directly, it isnt. But same package management. I see dpkg-buildpkg is available, but dont quite understand how to use it.. |
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| 02:14.43 | The_Wraith | I could ask on #apt channel.. but I doubt any of the two persons there would respond in a reasonable time.. :P |
| 02:17.05 | Arahael | The_Wraith: Well, given that this is debian, you could see if there is a build of opensc in Sid, and then do a Simple Sid Backport. That'll probably destory your ubuntu system, though. |
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| 02:18.54 | The_Wraith | I have already compiled the new version of opensc, I just dont want to run "make install", I'm looking for a way to make the package management system to replace the files. |
| 02:20.09 | The_Wraith | I'm pretty sure that running: "apt remove opensc && make install" in the source tree would make this work for the day. |
| 02:21.02 | The_Wraith | I'm also sure that next week when I log in again, I might have forgotten about what I did and accidentally do a "apt autoremove", wich in turn might do bad things. |
| 02:21.10 | Arahael | The_Wraith: I've no idea waht Magic Ubunuto has set that up with. |
| 02:22.09 | Arahael | The_Wraith: But yes. Assuming that Ubuntu is set up to do autoremove stuff correctly, it's not going to know if your opensc depends on it. |
| 02:22.30 | Arahael | The_Wraith: Hence the suggestion to do a Simple Sid Backport. |
| 02:22.40 | Arahael | The_Wraith: (Which isn't going to work on Ubuntu!) |
| 02:23.08 | Arahael | The_Wraith: So... Ask #ubuntu already, and leave us alone. :) |
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| 02:25.46 | The_Wraith | I asked there first, no response yet. I guess my best bet is to just "make install" without apt knowing anything about dependencies and schedule a Gentoo install on that machine some time later. :P |
| 02:25.52 | fritte_putt | my nic won't show up in jessie - where can i lok fr it? |
| 02:26.30 | Arahael | The_Wraith: You're more than welcome to use a better-supported distro. ;) |
| 02:27.15 | The_Wraith | Unfortunately for the purposes of why I need opensc, Ubuntu is best supported and its garbage. |
| 02:28.27 | The_Wraith | But thanks for the input. Much appreciated! :) |
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| 02:31.29 | lokus | i can't figure out how to get my changes to /etc/default/grub -> /boot/grub/grub.cfg to stick/apply. any help? i'm trying to change my GRUB_DEFAULT like i typically do but my 'booted' grub never seems to take the changes |
| 02:32.10 | lokus | a day or two ago i was trying to append the kernel parameters (from /proc/cmdline) and i gave up after they just wouldn't apply. my machine crashed today and i rebooted and next thing i know they are now applied? but again i can't change my default kernel. what's going on? |
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| 02:34.07 | petemc | did you run update-grub ? |
| 02:34.58 | Arahael | fritte_putt: dmesg? |
| 02:35.29 | fritte_putt | Arahael: there it shows up |
| 02:35.32 | lokus | yes i ran update-grub. /boot/grub/grub.cfg is accurate- it took the change i made to /etc/default/grub |
| 02:36.00 | Arahael | fritte_putt: Did it get renamed? |
| 02:36.21 | fritte_putt | Arahael: not that i know |
| 02:36.38 | Arahael | fritte_putt: dmesg will tell you. Anyway, so it does show up, you may have a different issue. ;) |
| 02:37.07 | Arahael | fritte_putt: (Eg, ip link show will only list the 'active' links, iirc) |
| 02:37.44 | fritte_putt | Arahael: good hint - i see 1 lo and 3 wlan0 with ip link |
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| 02:38.01 | fritte_putt | 2 eth0 wuld fit in perfect |
| 02:39.17 | fritte_putt | but i dn't knw how to bring up eth0 |
| 02:39.59 | fritte_putt | tried t configure it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:40.32 | fritte_putt | but ifup eth0 says device not found |
| 02:40.49 | Arahael | fritte_putt: dmesg will tell you what happened to it. |
| 02:42.16 | fritte_putt | loading kernel for a network device with cap_sys_module deprecated |
| 02:43.04 | fritte_putt | use cap_net_admin and alias netdev-sky2 instead |
| 02:44.49 | fritte_putt | ^loading kernel for^loading kernel module for^ |
| 02:45.00 | fritte_putt | sorry - typ there |
| 02:45.14 | fritte_putt | ^typ^typo |
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| 03:01.52 | [E]sc | i am currently on stretch, but for some reason apt-config causes CPU spikes often. Is there a fix for this? |
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| 03:44.26 | t0no6a | ja! sorry |
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| 03:50.46 | dpkg | hello, ruchik |
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| 04:16.35 | vahe1 | hi all, I have problem no sound icon in panel does not work key sound. but the sound works. What did I miss? KDE plasma |
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| 06:31.54 | nku | is there some decent tool to search imap mailboxes? |
| 06:32.16 | nku | i get logging emails i want to search and maybe categorize.. maybe i should just download them all.. |
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| 06:41.35 | k_sze[work] | Something is weird about one of my servers. |
| 06:41.50 | k_sze[work] | I have a few servers that are basically identical. They should be working on the same tasks at the moment. |
| 06:42.20 | k_sze[work] | One of them has a persistent 100% CPU usage on one of the cores in htop. |
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| 06:42.41 | k_sze[work] | What could that be? How do I tell what that's doing? |
| 06:43.07 | k_sze[work] | hmm, kipmi0 |
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| 08:23.41 | donut_ | k_sze[work]: congrats on the corked bitcoin mining server =) |
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| 08:24.18 | deser92 | usbip: should it be enough to just load vhci-hcd or should I do something extra (getting config failed, hub has too many ports! (err -19)) after modprobe vhci-hcd ? |
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| 08:25.55 | k_sze[work] | donut_: ?? |
| 08:26.02 | k_sze[work] | No, they are not for bitcoin mining. |
| 08:26.09 | k_sze[work] | They're doing mass video processing. |
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| 08:31.17 | donut_ | heh, no doubt. Just a remark on a server doing "some weird loads". Often such machines are found out to mine bitcoin for someone else. |
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| 08:35.43 | k_sze[work] | haha |
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| 08:47.05 | awwal | ,v firefox-esr |
| 08:47.06 | judd | Package: firefox-esr on amd64 -- jessie: 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-backports/firefox-release: 52.1.0esr-1~bpo80+1; stretch: 52.4.0esr-1~deb9u1; wheezy-security: 52.5.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 52.5.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 52.5.0esr-1~deb8u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 52.5.0esr-1~deb9u1; stretch-security: 52.5.0esr-1~deb9u1; buster: 52.5.0esr-1; sid: 52.5.0esr-1 |
| 08:47.28 | deser92 | anyone ? |
| 08:48.02 | awwal | hi deser92 |
| 08:48.11 | deser92 | hi awwal |
| 08:48.16 | deser92 | usbip: should it be enough to just load vhci-hcd or should I do something extra (getting config failed, hub has too many ports! (err -19)) after modprobe vhci-hcd ? |
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| 08:55.47 | deser92 | awwal , any idea ? |
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| 08:59.37 | awwal | deser92, no clue |
| 08:59.47 | deser92 | thanks |
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| 09:01.08 | awwal | deser92, silence here means, usually, I have no clue or people are busy |
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| 09:01.24 | deser92 | thanks |
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| 10:25.45 | tsukiyomi | Hi :) tracker-extract/tracker store seem to be eating up my CPU even while idling. Why is this happening? |
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| 10:27.00 | gladioacuto | I have an intel 5916 graphics card on my Lenovo X1 Carbon, and xserver-xorg-video-intel installed on Stretch. But cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep 'intel_drv.so' returns nothing, the only loaded drivers for instance are FBDEV and VESA. Any suggestion for why? Shouldn't be the intel driver loaded for that card? |
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| 10:54.22 | jelly | gladioacuto: video-intel is deprecated, video-modesetting is used for 2D by default on intel gpus |
| 10:54.38 | jelly | and that one is I think built-in |
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| 10:55.53 | gladioacuto | jelly, yes, thanks, I was reading the stretch release notes. modesetting is builtin in xserver-xorg-core |
| 10:55.58 | gladioacuto | thanks anyway |
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| 11:30.56 | [leeloo] | hi |
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| 11:35.29 | [leeloo] | I am using Jessie, and i see that some CVE in openssh is not fixed (ie: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-8858) is it something I can ignore, or should I upgrade to Strech, or ... ? Thanks for you help :) |
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| 11:49.26 | babilen | [leeloo]: It's always a good idea to upgrade to the latest stable release (unless that creates other problems) |
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| 11:49.36 | babilen | But as a general rule of thumb: Run stable |
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| 11:50.44 | McErroenous | Hi, where could i possibly find the "badblocks buglist" over time ? To verify bugs in older versions.... |
| 11:50.51 | [leeloo] | babilen: thanks. I check an dsee sand the cve that ar not fixed, ar tag low or not security issue |
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| 11:53.03 | babilen | McErroenous: Not sure .. are you looking for debsecan? |
| 11:53.07 | babilen | dpkg: debsecan |
| 11:53.07 | dpkg | somebody said debsecan was a program that reports security advisories against programs installed on the host, similar to gentoo's glsa-check. See http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/. |
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| 12:02.02 | McErroenous | babilen: not sure if debsecan is the right thing, going to have to take a look at it.... |
| 12:02.48 | babilen | McErroenous: What are you looking for? |
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| 12:03.18 | babilen | "badblocks buglist" -- what's that? |
| 12:03.44 | McErroenous | babilen, nvm... |
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| 12:04.21 | babilen | dpkg: tracker of doom |
| 12:04.22 | dpkg | The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/ . Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan> http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ |
| 12:04.26 | babilen | McErroenous: That? |
| 12:04.32 | babilen | Hard to tell without more information |
| 12:04.45 | babilen | But okay .. have a good day |
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| 12:13.09 | jelly | McErroenous: badblocks, as in, the tool for ext2/3/4 filesystem, part of e2fsprogs? |
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| 12:41.53 | McErroenous | jelly: yes.. |
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| 13:11.09 | jelly | McErroenous: then look at bogs for e2fsprogs package, I guess: bugs.debian.org/e2fsprogs |
| 13:11.14 | jelly | bogs? |
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| 13:26.29 | alias | Does anyone know of a way to perform a whois query (with whois cli) over ipv6? I don't see a way to specify an outgoing interface ... |
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| 13:27.53 | jelly | alias: step 1, disable ipv4? :-) |
| 13:28.41 | alias | No we need to perform checks over ipv4 and ipv6, initiated from the same server |
| 13:28.53 | alias | I just found out there's a way using telnet |
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| 13:31.13 | RoyK | alias: I guess scripting it with python/perl/something would be the "good" way |
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| 15:27.42 | huwjr | is there any reliable master-master setup for a websites code base? thinking something like DRBD + GFS? |
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| 15:29.21 | FinalX | huwjr: glusterfs was the best option I found, but it doesn't really work with latency-ridden connections, so having it spread over different networks is really killing for performance. |
| 15:29.22 | RoyK | huwjr: what sorts? database backend? |
| 15:29.32 | huwjr | db will likely be a galera cluster |
| 15:29.45 | huwjr | this is for php code / cms uploads etc |
| 15:29.52 | RoyK | on separate machines? |
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| 15:30.28 | FinalX | huwjr: I have MariaDB 10.3 w/ Galera running for DB, works excellently. But for the application code I decided not to do a multi-master because mine are spread over the entire world. GlusterFS literally took 3.7 minutes to write 25 files when unzipping wordpress.zip. |
| 15:30.43 | FinalX | huwjr: so if your nodes are all local, it might work, but if they're elsewhere, don't even try. |
| 15:30.59 | RoyK | FinalX: isn't 10.3 expermental? |
| 15:31.00 | FinalX | huwjr: for my own storage I went master + 5 slaves and used lsyncd instead. I gave up |
| 15:31.05 | FinalX | yes, it is, but 10.2 has it too |
| 15:31.05 | huwjr | Gluster is definitely slow |
| 15:31.22 | huwjr | galera is already âchosen" |
| 15:31.24 | RoyK | uses galera with mariadb 10.2 |
| 15:31.35 | RoyK | that is, I use postgresql whenever I can |
| 15:31.43 | huwjr | teh connections between nodes will be over my DCs âprivate wanâ (i guess that is what itâs called) |
| 15:31.48 | FinalX | huwjr: if you find any other option that works for storage, I'd like to know |
| 15:31.49 | RoyK | but shite like wordpress needs mariadb |
| 15:32.15 | FinalX | postgres replication is better than mysql/mariadb replication, but not better then galera's imo |
| 15:32.27 | FinalX | that is, if you'd need master-master |
| 15:32.38 | FinalX | with galera you can have like 63 masters with synchronous writes |
| 15:32.44 | huwjr | so basically no master-master option for web files? :p |
| 15:32.53 | RoyK | there's no good multimaster thing for postgres, but then, postgres beats mariadb everywhere else |
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| 15:33.15 | RoyK | huwjr: DRBD fileserver with keepalived? |
| 15:33.30 | FinalX | well, again, you can have multi master with glusterfs, but it'll be slow. I also looked at alternatives like NFS with local cache incl. unionfs but I decided it wasn't worth the complexity/hassle. |
| 15:33.34 | RoyK | huwjr: and then, haproxy or varnish in front of the webservers? |
| 15:33.53 | RoyK | also with keepalived |
| 15:34.08 | FinalX | but for me it's different: I'm the only one making changes to my websites, so I can just do everything on the master node and get it synced to the rest |
| 15:34.18 | huwjr | donât know much about DRBD, iâve just built 2 VMs to experiment with it - just wanted to know if I am missing anything before i waste time! |
| 15:34.32 | huwjr | DRBD server would be a single point of failure though or not? |
| 15:34.45 | RoyK | so, two servers for frontend stuff, like varnish, then two application servers, three mariadb servers in a galera cluster and then two servers for NFS file storage with DRBD |
| 15:34.48 | RoyK | should do |
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| 15:35.07 | RoyK | DRBD is just mirroring over ethernet |
| 15:35.12 | RoyK | more or less |
| 15:35.32 | RoyK | so you'll need something like keepalived to connect to a virtual IP |
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| 15:35.59 | babilen | Ceph might be an option too, but is definitely a bit more complex to configure and setup. |
| 15:36.04 | RoyK | overkill |
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| 15:36.11 | babilen | Oh, sure |
| 15:36.14 | huwjr | ceph and gluster are slow by anyones standards |
| 15:36.24 | huwjr | and iâve been advised they are more pain than good |
| 15:36.28 | RoyK | just use proxy/webserver/fileserver/database server and keep everything redundant, and you can't miss |
| 15:37.05 | huwjr | royk my understandanding was that you couldnât really do DRBD as master-master |
| 15:37.11 | huwjr | you know otherwise? |
| 15:37.16 | RoyK | huwjr: no, but you don't need that |
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| 15:37.55 | babilen | Maybe look into DBs such as CockroachDB or Citus |
| 15:38.05 | RoyK | huwjr: you run the stuff on the master, which replicates to the slave, so when the master goes down, the slave takes over, and then, when the master wakes up again or is reinstalled, you o a manual failback (don't do it automatically) |
| 15:38.25 | huwjr | kinda wanted to take advantage of the extra servers and load balance them, as well as having the redundancy.. thatâs all :) |
| 15:38.27 | RoyK | huwjr: and then, you may want to store the files in the database as BLOBs to avoid the fileserver |
| 15:38.32 | babilen | If you are running on PostgreSQL already citus might make a lot of sense |
| 15:38.44 | RoyK | huwjr: how much traffic are you planning to support on this thing? |
| 15:39.18 | huwjr | not a huge amount, itâs just business critical for a large corporation. atm we are running a single LAMP stack with 0 redundancy |
| 15:39.33 | huwjr | this is mostly a tick box routine |
| 15:39.42 | huwjr | 100 IT staff vs me |
| 15:39.43 | RoyK | then don't worry about scalability for now |
| 15:39.43 | huwjr | :p |
| 15:40.13 | huwjr | point taken. |
| 15:40.21 | RoyK | if you can store those uploaded files as BLOBs, you can cut down to only seven servers (2 proxies, 2 webservers and 3 database nodes) |
| 15:40.57 | RoyK | or perhaps even dropping the proxies if you use keepalived on the webservers |
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| 15:41.33 | RoyK | but then, varnish is really lightweight, so having a couple of those as VMs won't hurt, and *will* offload the webservers |
| 15:41.36 | huwjr | was going to be using cloudflares LB/failover |
| 15:41.52 | huwjr | but think the corporate guys are whinging and wanting to move dns. |
| 15:42.00 | huwjr | changing goalposts |
| 15:42.14 | huwjr | think youâre right about redundancy over availabiity |
| 15:43.06 | RoyK | eh? |
| 15:43.16 | RoyK | redundancy is all about availability |
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| 15:52.15 | huwjr | by availability i meant geo distribution and load balancing |
| 15:52.40 | huwjr | the real worry is definitely the redundancy of it, i just wanted to have my cake and eat it |
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| 15:55.26 | huwjr | appreciate all the input ! thanks all |
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| 15:59.31 | oo_miguel | hmm. why can I remove a write-protected file that is not owned by me (but by root) (I created it via docker, but does this matter at all)? please take a look at this: https://paste.debian.net/997408/ |
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| 16:01.20 | tw | do you own the directory? |
| 16:01.31 | oo_miguel | yes |
| 16:01.55 | oo_miguel | oh |
| 16:01.57 | tw | deleting a file ref is a directory write, not a file write. |
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| 16:02.20 | RoyK | huwjr: what is the application you'll be running? if it's just a website, perhaps cassandra would be better than mysql? |
| 16:02.26 | RoyK | (that is, mariadb) |
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| 16:02.49 | oo_miguel | tw: aaah allright |
| 16:02.51 | oo_miguel | tw: thank you |
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| 16:22.07 | toffe2 | Hey guys, anyone can help me? I have installed nodejs and got "node" and "npm" working |
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| 16:22.16 | toffe2 | but when i try on an non-root user i get "Npm not found" ? |
| 16:22.23 | toffe2 | "-bash: npm: command not found" |
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| 16:23.12 | nkuttler | toffe2: how did you install it? |
| 16:23.21 | toffe2 | apt-get install nodejs |
| 16:23.33 | nkuttler | toffe2: dpkg -L nodejs | grep bin |
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| 16:24.10 | toffe2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.18 | toffe2 | is at bottom + a lot on /usr/lib |
| 16:24.31 | nkuttler | toffe2: echo $PATH |
| 16:24.47 | toffe2 | on user or root? |
| 16:24.50 | toffe2 | root: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
| 16:25.03 | nkuttler | user |
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| 16:25.18 | toffe2 | on user: /home/toffe/.npm-packages/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/ur/games |
| 16:25.28 | toffe2 | seems like somethings wrong there |
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| 16:26.27 | toffe2 | nkuttler: i removed something i tested; new PATH: /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games |
| 16:26.36 | toffe2 | still "command not found" |
| 16:26.37 | nkuttler | toffe2: try hash -r |
| 16:26.51 | toffe2 | same |
| 16:26.59 | toffe2 | no output on hash |
| 16:27.02 | nkuttler | ah well, just use /usr/bin/node then.. |
| 16:27.10 | toffe2 | well npm .. i need that command |
| 16:27.11 | toffe2 | node works |
| 16:27.22 | nkuttler | ah well, just use /usr/bin/npm then.. |
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| 16:27.32 | toffe2 | -bash: /usr/bin/npm: Permission denied |
| 16:27.39 | nkuttler | ah well |
| 16:28.12 | toffe2 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Nov 7 20:11 npm -> ../lib/node_modules/npm/bin/npm-cli.js |
| 16:28.21 | nkuttler | toffe2: dpkg -S /usr/bin/npm |
| 16:28.44 | toffe2 | nodejs: /usr/bin/npm |
| 16:28.59 | nkuttler | apt-cache policy nodejs |
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| 16:29.35 | question24844253 | what does "tr âa-zâ âA-Zâ < a > b" do? |
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| 16:30.21 | nkuttler | question24844253: see man tr, and man bash section redirection |
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| 16:30.54 | toffe2 | nkuttler: https://pastebin.ca/3939598 |
| 16:31.16 | nkuttler | toffe2: you'll have to ask nodesource for support |
| 16:31.40 | toffe2 | seems like i cant get into /usr/lib/node_modules |
| 16:31.42 | toffe2 | permission denied |
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| 16:32.01 | nkuttler | toffe2: it's not a debian issue, ##linux for generic help |
| 16:32.34 | question24844253 | nkuttler: does it read a, turn every lowercase into uppercase and put it in b? does it change file a or does it just put it in file b so a is lowercase still? |
| 16:32.58 | toffe2 | nkuttler: remove + autoremove + install fixed it :P |
| 16:33.00 | toffe2 | thanks anyway :) |
| 16:33.01 | nkuttler | question24844253: that's how i read it, but i wouldn't bet on it |
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| 16:33.28 | question24844253 | thanks! linux exam tomorrow |
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| 16:52.12 | jorb | so i've been having issues with chromium browser and my proxy at work lately |
| 16:52.58 | jorb | one way to fix it, i think, is to force it to use kerberos, not sure if there are any pointers out there... |
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| 17:00.19 | teraflops | jorb: chromium/chrome uses system wide proxy/auth options |
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| 17:01.53 | ezra-s | foxy proxy extensions and the like provide more finetuned proxy options |
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| 17:02.42 | teraflops | foxy sounds like a firefox thingy |
| 17:02.44 | absolute512 | Hi! Does anyone know if something drastical changed in the network configuration of Debian 9? I'm trying to configure my network but it doesn't work on the second interface. If whished I can post /etc/network/interfaces in pastebin or such. A simmilar network config si working in Debian 8 |
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| 17:02.53 | teraflops | maybe I'm plain wrong |
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| 17:03.08 | tw | foxyproxy is a webext now, so it works on both. |
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| 17:03.28 | teraflops | good to know |
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| 17:03.52 | tw | webextensions isn't a perfectly portable interface, but it does a good job for what it's capable of. |
| 17:04.24 | teraflops | I do cntlm so it's systemwide, living with fortinet + AD and using linux is hard these days |
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| 17:06.18 | teraflops | absolute512: go ahead and paste your config but I cannot think of such drastical changes youre describing |
| 17:07.01 | teraflops | ,v cntlm |
| 17:07.03 | judd | Package: cntlm on amd64 -- jessie: 0.92.3-1; wheezy: 0.92.3-1; buster: 0.92.3-1+b1; sid: 0.92.3-1+b1; stretch: 0.92.3-1+b1 |
| 17:08.11 | jorb | ezra-s: foxy proxy looks like it is for firefox, oddly enough firefox esr works just fine with the proxy |
| 17:08.39 | jorb | teraflops: ok, all i have in there is a proxy pac file, no real options to troubleshoot |
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| 17:09.18 | jorb | although it will offer up my kerberos ticket if i generate one |
| 17:09.26 | teraflops | jorb: yeah you want cntlm or similar because chromium does not have such network options |
| 17:09.35 | jorb | just seems like if firefox can handle NTLM, than so should the system settings |
| 17:09.49 | teraflops | jorb: or if you do gnome you can do via gsettings |
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| 17:10.59 | absolute512 | @teraflops https://pastebin.com/z16sJjLB |
| 17:11.57 | teraflops | jorb: iirc you can also use a ~/.config/chromium-flags.conf and put your flags there |
| 17:12.14 | teraflops | e.g --proxy-pac-url=<pac-file-url> |
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| 17:12.41 | teraflops | not sure if that still works |
| 17:13.30 | jorb | yes i've fiddled with those, looked at the policies too, which have some promising options |
| 17:13.37 | ezra-s | jorb: it's a extension for chrome/ium too |
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| 17:38.31 | zzla | hi |
| 17:38.48 | zzla | so, im trying to install this guy: https://github.com/grobie/soundcloud2000 |
| 17:38.56 | jorb | ezra-s: oh, an actual chromium extension, hmm i'll check that out.. |
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| 17:39.05 | zzla | but i'm getting stuck at the ruby1.9.1-dev part |
| 17:39.26 | zzla | i've tried using rvm and installing the 1.9.1 available, but that did not seem to do the trick |
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| 17:40.46 | zzla | i suppose this might be a ruby relation issue |
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| 17:43.02 | jhutchins | zzla: Much more so than a debian issue. |
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| 17:43.29 | zzla | ah |
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| 17:45.45 | zzla | any suggestions? |
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| 17:49.26 | zzla | fyi, im also using debian 9 |
| 17:50.25 | zzla | is it possible that that is causing the issue? |
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| 17:53.32 | n4dir | if i do "ifconfig -a", i can see the local IP address. Doing "ip a" i can't, iirc i also tried "ip addr show enp3s0" |
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| 17:53.52 | n4dir | and what is the according command for "dhclient eth0" ? |
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| 17:56.44 | ZitZ | hi, i'm trying to store my configs in a common repository, like dotfiles, except i'm storing configs for courier and postgres among others. And then I use stow to symlink from the git directory to the actual directory. |
| 17:57.18 | ZitZ | However, even after messing with permissions, this strategy is producing weird issues. I don't understand why these programs don't like having their configs symlinked. It shouldn't matter. |
| 17:57.20 | JPT | ZitZ: You may be interested in etckeeper |
| 17:57.57 | ZitZ | JPT: i don't think i want to keep the whole darn directory in git. I want a common repository for all my VMs. |
| 17:58.06 | JPT | ZitZ: Symlinks may be an issue when services chroot themselves and then are unable to follow the symlink. |
| 17:58.08 | GNU\colossus | I'm looking for a decent and well-supported flatbed scanner for a GNU/Linux desktop machine - can anyone recommend a make and model? |
| 17:58.29 | JPT | Also, be sure that the user that the service in question runs under has all the permissions. |
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| 17:58.43 | JPT | Maybe try strace to debug it further, but i guess in some cases, it cannot be fixed this way |
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| 18:01.46 | ZitZ | JPT: you're advise is so helpful. I just read about using etckeeper with .gitignore as a whitelist, which is probably an easier way of accomplishing my goals. |
| 18:03.02 | JPT | If you like to look into configuration management, perhaps tools like saltstack, ansible, puppet, ... are interesting to you, too. :) |
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| 18:04.32 | ntz | hello |
| 18:04.41 | ZitZ | JPT: yeah, i'm very aware of those. This isn't mission critical, just my home lab. It's a balancing act between learning new things, and how much time I have, and getting things done. |
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| 18:04.59 | JPT | Ah, okay. Good luck for your mission :) |
| 18:05.53 | ntz | can somebody tell me, what has happened with eth1 aka eth4 now ? http://susepaste.org/view/raw/8855647 .. it was before eth3 and now it seems that kernel thinks that's suddenly pcieport driver but it's listed also under the xhci_hcd driver (eg lsusb), so what does it mean ? |
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| 18:06.24 | ntz | it's dedicated ethernet adapteur in dell latitude 7480 docking station |
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| 18:07.11 | Zesk | Hello everyone, how much disk space do I need to compile a debian 8 kernel? |
| 18:07.40 | Zesk | with default options |
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| 18:07.50 | prrro | Hi guys. I'm not a networking guy expert. I've been having some timeouts 503 or 520 errors. I was checking and I figured out "tcp segments retransmit" has been incremeting. Any clue how I can face this issue? |
| 18:09.46 | JPT | prrro: Please don't do this. People will feel you're wasting their time. (He asked in ##networking at the same time, too) |
| 18:10.47 | prrro | JPT: Oh, sorry. I thought it'd be interesting to talk about with different people. My bad. |
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| 18:11.26 | JPT | It may be interesting - but crossposting is not cool. If one channel is inactive, tell them you're going elsewhere and it should be fine. :) |
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| 18:11.46 | n4dir | wondering who came up with that rule ... |
| 18:12.20 | ntz | pff ... only sensitive ppl or those with small minds with feel offended ... old-skulled IT guys who are here on freenode for years will don't care and help you anyway if they know the resolution |
| 18:12.30 | ntz | JPT && prrro ^^ |
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| 18:13.18 | prrro | JPT: It wouldn't be to talk about it with different people tho |
| 18:13.49 | prrro | ntz: totally agree |
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| 18:15.27 | ntz | prrro: anyhow, what is point A and point B ? |
| 18:16.14 | ntz | prrro: I've experienced this several times between ESX virtual adapteurs and physical bge nics on sun4* for example |
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| 18:18.37 | ntz | prrro: pastebin please ethtool -S <teh nic> |
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| 18:19.44 | prrro | ntz: I'm receving this alerts from pingdom. It's like pingdom is sending me alerts "is down", "it's up" frequently and I realized tcp retra increased. That's why I thought it could be related. and when I see the report they're 520 or 503 errors |
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| 18:22.02 | ntz | prrro: words are cheap :D ... show us please some related debug info, eg some dmesg message about flapping link or requested ethtool -S |
| 18:22.18 | ntz | or whatever else that is related to that |
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| 18:25.04 | prrro | ntz: https://pastebin.com/raw/abHtPi8q |
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| 18:26.47 | ntz | prrro: eth1, is it ? |
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| 18:27.37 | prrro | ntz: Sorry. eth1 is LAN I guess |
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| 18:28.19 | ntz | on eth1 thare are some weird things, eg rx_crc_errors: |
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| 18:30.40 | prrro | ntz: It might be cable problems probably since it hasn't have changed in a while and they're not the best quality, might it not? |
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| 18:32.21 | ntz | it could be anything .... I'd start suspecting other side as well |
| 18:32.42 | ntz | so check your switch |
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| 18:33.36 | ntz | prrro: check eth0 Vs eth1 ... eg rx_missed_errors: |
| 18:33.48 | ntz | and rx_crc_errors on eth1 |
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| 18:34.32 | ntz | prrro: isn't something in dmesg related to flapping eth1 ? |
| 18:34.44 | komlev | Hello. Question: machine works ok but when I remove graphics card from machine it stops responding to ssh |
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| 18:34.59 | komlev | and seems like it not even goes to DCHP server to get address |
| 18:35.13 | RoyK | komlev: as in poweroff the machine, unplug the graphics card and power it up? |
| 18:35.27 | komlev | RoyK, yes |
| 18:35.38 | RoyK | komlev: some machines refuses to boot without one |
| 18:35.50 | ntz | it's pretty usual ... some motherboards simply requires gfx card otherwise they hang up on bios initializing |
| 18:35.51 | RoyK | komlev: connect a speaker to the audio port |
| 18:36.01 | teraflops | komlev: I believe you remove the gpu with the machine powered off ^ |
| 18:36.04 | RoyK | komlev: it should give you a beepbeepbepepsomething |
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| 18:36.20 | Upoufou | Hi all, how can i show if my wlp0s0 card is up or down with "/sys/class/net/wlp0s0" ? is not possible ? i only can show if connected or not with operstat and other but not if the cart is up or not |
| 18:36.37 | teraflops | bios/UEFI must have options for ignoring absence of keyb/graphics |
| 18:36.55 | RoyK | Upoufou: ip link list? ethtool? |
| 18:37.07 | Upoufou | yes i know this commandes ^^ |
| 18:37.19 | Upoufou | i try to find it with sys/class |
| 18:37.19 | komlev | RoyK, ntz teraflops: It goes beyond bios, I see logs at the time machine runs without card. It beeps when it lodas system in GRUB |
| 18:37.34 | Upoufou | because sometimes you have retur like 0 ; 1 ; 2 is great for use in script |
| 18:37.59 | komlev | RoyK, ntz: debian starts, but for some reason does not work properly |
| 18:38.03 | Upoufou | like for /sys/class/net/wlp4s0/link_mode) |
| 18:38.08 | RoyK | komlev: damn - do you have a DeLorean? |
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| 18:39.18 | komlev | RoyK, unfortunately |
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| 18:39.27 | komlev | RoyK, no. why? |
| 18:39.35 | RoyK | as in time machine ;) |
| 18:40.13 | komlev | RoyK, ) |
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| 18:40.42 | Upoufou | RoyK is not possible to show this with cat files ? |
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| 18:40.55 | Upoufou | RoyK only use iw or ip link ? not sys/class ? |
| 18:41.14 | RoyK | no idea - try to strace those commands to see what they read |
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| 18:41.49 | Upoufou | RoyK i have try to trace iw link wlp4s0 show |
| 18:41.58 | Upoufou | ok thank for help i go found it |
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| 18:42.28 | RoyK | Upoufou: what was it? |
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| 18:43.49 | Upoufou | Royk sorry wrong iw dev wlp4s0 link that same than cat /sys/class/net/wlp4s0/operstate |
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| 18:44.49 | prrro | ntz: No. There's nothing related to flapping eth1 in dmesg |
| 18:45.33 | Upoufou | i try to found this : ip link show wlp4s0 with a cat files like sys/net |
| 18:45.37 | prrro | ntz: Sorry. How can I test eth0 vs eth1? |
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| 18:50.28 | painy | hello |
| 18:50.49 | painy | i am using testing and suddenly some packages such as make, libx11-dev and polari are gone |
| 18:51.04 | painy | i can't install them from apt-get |
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| 18:51.10 | annadane | #debian-next |
| 18:51.14 | annadane | er |
| 18:51.15 | painy | sorry |
| 18:51.17 | annadane | !debian-next |
| 18:51.17 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. |
| 18:51.27 | annadane | on oftc, not freenode |
| 18:51.32 | painy | ok thanks |
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| 18:51.57 | teraflops | Upoufou: why dont you use e.g ip + awk? |
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| 18:54.47 | Upoufou | teraflops because i want find the files source, because sometimes the files use 0; 1 for the info |
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| 18:54.56 | teraflops | huh? |
| 18:54.56 | Upoufou | like systemctl is-active |
| 18:55.01 | Upoufou | that sho 0 or 1 |
| 18:55.14 | teraflops | you want to know if a nic is up? |
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| 18:56.32 | Upoufou | look |
| 18:56.40 | teraflops | looks |
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| 18:56.56 | Upoufou | that the first step cat /sys/class/net/wlp4s0/link_mode |
| 18:57.14 | Upoufou | that the end step : cat /sys/class/net/wlp4s0/operstate |
| 18:57.28 | Upoufou | but me i try to find the second step |
| 18:57.56 | teraflops | Upoufou: so that will only work if the wlp4s0 interface exists |
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| 18:58.31 | teraflops | Upoufou: what about e.g ip a | awk '/UP / {split($2,var,":"); print var[1]}' |
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| 18:59.31 | Upoufou | teraflops yes that good to i know sed ^^ |
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| 19:00.02 | Upoufou | teraflops i be back just tested |
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| 19:01.04 | teraflops | Upoufou: my point is go use something that works always not having to hardcode the interface name |
| 19:01.35 | teraflops | just saying, you can use whatever you want |
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| 19:09.59 | awwal | Not really debian specific :P How can I force forefox(esr) to not load multimedia content, when opened on a new tab, until I switch to that tab as chromium does? |
| 19:10.17 | awwal | (without extra extensions - flashblock...) :P |
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| 19:14.26 | n4dir | still wondering bout the question how to show the local IP with ip |
| 19:14.55 | n4dir | and how to run dhclient, which complains bout a missing ifconfig |
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| 19:18.47 | n4dir | to me both sound like outstanding easy questions. Wondering why i can't find/get an answer. |
| 19:19.34 | JPT | If you are interested in addresses, 'ip addr show' is a nice command |
| 19:19.47 | jelly | or shorter, ip a |
| 19:20.13 | JPT | *takes note* |
| 19:20.23 | n4dir | i did ip addr show, but that didn't show me the local IP |
| 19:20.30 | n4dir | same for ip a |
| 19:20.38 | JPT | What do you mean by local ip? |
| 19:20.49 | n4dir | 192.168.1.5 ; for example |
| 19:21.01 | jelly | what did it show, then? |
| 19:21.10 | jelly | !paste |
| 19:21.10 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 19:21.14 | n4dir | that the interface is up, and some voodoo |
| 19:21.21 | jelly | paste the whole output |
| 19:21.30 | n4dir | can't paste right now, as i am not on debian. |
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| 19:21.45 | n4dir | if you tell me "it *should* show the local IP" , i am fine |
| 19:21.51 | jelly | how do you know it didn't show the ip,t hen |
| 19:22.00 | n4dir | uh? because i looked at it? |
| 19:22.18 | JPT | ip a should show all interfaces + all addresses on those interfaces. So your local ip should be in there unless your interface is down |
| 19:22.21 | jelly | maybe that ip was not configured at all at the time |
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| 19:22.33 | jelly | (because yes, it *should* show the local IP) |
| 19:22.34 | n4dir | it was, cause ifconfig showed it |
| 19:22.47 | jelly | that's very unusual. |
| 19:22.52 | JPT | Maybe you have that address on an alias? |
| 19:23.07 | JPT | Something like eth0:1? |
| 19:23.22 | n4dir | k, i did a chroot, let me quickly paste it |
| 19:23.29 | jelly | in any case, it's not worth thinking about until actual output can be shown |
| 19:23.52 | jelly | JPT: those will be visible in ip addr show |
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| 19:24.04 | n4dir | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.12 | n4dir | ah, so it adds the extra /24 ? |
| 19:24.20 | jelly | that's not the whole output |
| 19:24.29 | n4dir | well: obviously |
| 19:24.46 | JPT | So it is in there. /24 is the subnet mask |
| 19:24.55 | jelly | 192.168.178.25/24 is CIDR format |
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| 19:25.08 | n4dir | https://paste.debian.net/997440/ |
| 19:25.34 | n4dir | wondering how i could oversee that ... but thanks |
| 19:25.59 | JPT | You'll get used to the different output layout (compared to ifconfig) |
| 19:26.03 | n4dir | then how to do "dhclient enp3s0", assuming no interfaces file is present and no ifconfig is instaled |
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| 19:26.48 | n4dir | JPT: yup, i guess so. Must have been way too late last night. |
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| 19:32.34 | n4dir | looks like dhclient will have to wait. i gotta run. thanks again, later |
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| 19:35.43 | jhutchins | n4dir: Create the interfaces file, use ifup or ip to bring the interface up, run dhclient. |
| 19:36.14 | jhutchins | n4dir: You can also use ip to set up the card I believe. |
| 19:36.25 | n4dir | uh, to create the interfaces file i usually do a quick "dhclient eth0", go to wiki.debian and check how exactly the entry has to look like |
| 19:36.41 | jgcampbell300 | if i wanted to create a user that never logs on and only uses one piece of software, what would I go read to figure how what type of account i am looking for and how to create it properly? |
| 19:37.21 | jhutchins | n4dir: Reading farther back in the scrollbuffer. |
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| 19:39.15 | zzla | yeesh |
| 19:39.30 | zzla | i spent a bunch of time trying to get foobar2000 to work |
| 19:39.32 | zzla | which it apparently does |
| 19:39.41 | zzla | but it also requires a client ID for their api |
| 19:39.45 | zzla | which soundcloud is not providing anymore |
| 19:39.46 | zzla | -_____ |
| 19:39.48 | zzla | -_____- |
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| 19:40.19 | jhutchins | n4dir: I see that as of wheezy there are a couple of dhcp clients includng dhcpcd5. Possibly you need something newer that is aware of ifconfig's deprecation. |
| 19:40.46 | n4dir | yeah, i guess so. |
| 19:41.07 | jhutchins | n4dir: I don't recall which release you're on. If it's buster, this is exactly the kind of thing that happens in testing. |
| 19:41.20 | n4dir | nah, stable. |
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| 19:41.34 | jhutchins | n4dir: You should probably read the release notes for stretch then and see what it says about networking changes. |
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| 19:41.40 | jhutchins | (As should I.) |
| 19:41.56 | n4dir | some package installed ifconfig as a dependency, so as of now the problem is not really there, but i want to prepare for future, so to spekak |
| 19:42.08 | jhutchins | n4dir: ifconfig is available and can be installed, that would be a quick fix without having to learn the new method. |
| 19:42.23 | jhutchins | n4dir: Ah. Release notes. |
| 19:42.35 | jhutchins | !stretch release notes |
| 19:42.36 | dpkg | The release notes for Debian 9 "Stretch" are at https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ . See also <jessie->stretch>, <stretch install guide> |
| 19:42.40 | n4dir | k, will try those, thanks for the help and idea. I realy gotta run now ... |
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| 19:46.19 | jhutchins | Turns out the Release Notes aren't that much help. |
| 19:46.22 | jhutchins | !networking |
| 19:46.22 | dpkg | For basic networking, «man interfaces» and see http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration . For further information, see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/254 and http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05 . See also <interfaces>, <wifi>, <wireless connection managers>. |
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| 19:55.36 | zzla | hi |
| 19:55.45 | zzla | anyone use soundcloud2000 ? |
| 19:56.14 | zzla | i was able to install it, though any time i send a key command, it dies with this message: |
| 19:56.36 | zzla | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/326f33ef939dc5d321c798449231e83a |
| 19:56.48 | annadane | ,v soundcloud2000 |
| 19:56.49 | judd | No package named 'soundcloud2000' was found in amd64. |
| 19:57.01 | jhutchins | http://linux-training.be/linuxnet.pdf |
| 19:57.12 | annadane | zzla, are you sure it's in debian? |
| 19:57.22 | jhutchins | annadane: Third party. |
| 19:57.31 | zzla | not sure exactly what you're asking |
| 19:57.39 | zzla | ah, sorry no.. its not |
| 19:57.40 | jhutchins | zzla: You're going to have to ask soundcloud support, it's not a Debian project/package. |
| 19:57.48 | jhutchins | !soundcloud |
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| 19:57.56 | jhutchins | Nothin'. |
| 19:57.59 | zzla | right, so i figured id ask to see if someone could at least point me in the rigth direction |
| 19:58.08 | zzla | its a 3rd party application made a few years back, with zero support |
| 19:58.13 | zzla | ...that i could find |
| 19:58.43 | zzla | maybe ill try the alsa channel |
| 19:58.44 | jhutchins | zzla: There's probably other projects that provide similar functions. |
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| 19:59.56 | zzla | right.. ive looked around and did not find a solution |
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| 20:00.20 | jhutchins | zzla: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-media-server-software-linux/ |
| 20:00.36 | jhutchins | zzla: Suggest you look at the google results for "linux home media server". |
| 20:00.41 | Shmam | whenever i plug my razer blade stealth (Deb 9, KDE plasma 5.8.6) into AC power, it goes into hibernate. Should I file a bug report or is this something that I did possibly? |
| 20:00.52 | zzla | i mean.. im not necessarily looking for a home media server, though |
| 20:01.48 | zzla | check your power settings |
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| 20:02.06 | zzla | jhutchins: is there a specific reason you suggest that i look at results for home media servers? |
| 20:02.17 | zzla | or simply because the one im trying to use isn't working |
| 20:03.08 | jhutchins | zzla: Soundnode looks like it might be more current. |
| 20:03.10 | Shmam | zzla: in the system settings? I dont see anything that says like do this when power connected/disconnected |
| 20:04.02 | jhutchins | zzla: I think there are several audio players that will stream from soundcloud. |
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| 20:04.20 | jhutchins | zzla: I saw something that suggested it was a media server. |
| 20:04.31 | zzla | ah |
| 20:04.44 | zzla | its an application that streams music from the soundcloud site |
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| 20:05.00 | jhutchins | zzla: Got that now, see soundnode. |
| 20:05.06 | zzla | when you log in to soudncloud, you have a feed of tracks that were uploaded by artists you follow, similar to facebook's feed |
| 20:05.21 | zzla | looks nice |
| 20:05.24 | zzla | and ive actually used it |
| 20:05.28 | zzla | i was hoping for somthing cli based |
| 20:05.46 | kirk781 | soundcloud2000? similar sounding name to foobar2000 on Windows |
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| 20:06.29 | teraflops | I bet mpd can |
| 20:06.59 | awwal | n4dir, just a comment, netstat is a nice net tool (netstat -n -r for what you asked first) |
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| 20:09.37 | jhutchins | awwal: What he's experiencing is that although ifconfig is deprecated and not installed, there's at eleast one dhcp client that complains if it can't find it. |
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| 20:10.32 | jhutchins | awwal: There's very limited documentation on the transition from net-tools, and it doesn't look like everything that net-tools can do is supported by the newer programs. |
| 20:11.26 | inSync | it's like systemd all over again, lol |
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| 20:18.29 | Shmam | whenever i plug my razer blade stealth (Deb 9, KDE plasma 5.8.6) into AC power, it goes into hibernate. Should I file a bug report or is this something that I did possibly? |
| 20:18.32 | awwal | jhutchins, ok, anyway, I can't really be much helpful, since I just know/try to know the basics about almost everything on gnu/linux :P |
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| 20:20.43 | awwal | I still confused and a bit suspicious about systemd regarding shutdow (reboot/poweroff) processes. Too fast and I wonder if all (processes is terminated/halted smoothly/correctly (?) |
| 20:20.52 | awwal | shutdown |
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| 20:21.20 | awwal | poweroff is almost 2 second or so :D |
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| 20:27.41 | kirk781 | Poweroff is fast; but the startup process seems so slow. Also hibernate takes way too long to give a responsive system. |
| 20:28.22 | awwal | startup is slow yeah, almost when using gnome+gdm3 |
| 20:28.33 | Freelance | Does anyone know how to make DNS requests go to dnsmasq first, before going to any external nameservers if nothing can be found? |
| 20:30.24 | GNU\colossus | Freelance, man resolv.conf |
| 20:31.29 | Freelance | resolv.conf goes to the first nameserver, then to the second if the first doesn't return anything, right? |
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| 20:34.02 | tw | Freelance: only if it times out as I recall, unless you set the rotate option. |
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| 20:34.56 | kirk781 | I use gdm3 because it's pretty. sdm looks sparse. |
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| 20:36.11 | sillyslux | in resolv.conf use nameserver 127.0.0.1 only, then in dnsmasq provide the ips of your external dns servers |
| 20:37.30 | Freelance | Ah, thanks. Doesn't resolv.conf's rotate option randomly chooses which nameserver to pick? |
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| 21:20.35 | Freelance | Hey, I have a question I'm not sure where else to post. I've blocked microsoft.com via dnsmasq, and I can't ping it, so why can I connect to its homepage through Firefox? |
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| 21:22.46 | ChmEarl | Freelance FF still connects with IPv6: go into about:config and set disableIPv6 |
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| 21:23.11 | Dagger | ugh... no. wtf |
| 21:23.29 | Dagger | don't disable v6 in Firefox... especially for this. microsoft.com doesn't even have an AAAA record |
| 21:23.31 | Freelance | That's odd, I disabled IPv6 |
| 21:23.41 | Freelance | Not in firefox, but on the machine |
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| 21:26.36 | Freelance | Wait, actually, I think I'm mistaken -- my problem is something else |
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| 21:30.04 | Freelance | Sorry for asking stupid questions. I set my dns via networkmanager to another device which used dnsmasq, but forgot that /etc/resolv.conf was set to something else |
| 21:30.14 | Freelance | I'm an idiot. |
| 21:30.58 | Freelance | Thanks for the help. |
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| 21:31.39 | amundsen | hi |
| 21:32.18 | amundsen | i'd like to show you a video so you can see better my desktop problem |
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| 21:33.32 | amundsen | is there any platform in which i cuould upload the video and share it with you? |
| 21:34.30 | drith | what;s with the wrong race conditions in the console |
| 21:34.33 | drith | seriously |
| 21:34.38 | drith | going for su |
| 21:34.51 | drith | and trying to install stuff with dpkg |
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| 21:35.08 | drith | and it tells me there is something else holding this |
| 21:35.16 | drith | like open synaptic |
| 21:35.21 | drith | is this fixed? |
| 21:35.45 | themill | You've said "this" a lot without saying anything |
| 21:36.10 | annadane | well, synaptic does need to be closed before you can update |
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| 21:37.27 | amundsen | i'm using mate desktop in stretch and when i drag icons and move them around the desktop, a grey square appears surrounding them |
| 21:37.32 | amundsen | here is a video |
| 21:37.42 | amundsen | http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=1440375 |
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| 21:59.00 | tharkun | Good Day to everyone. I experienced an unusual behaviour on a perl program. The program creates a temporal directory on a ramdisk copies files into it processes them there and it copies them into a final directory outside that ramdisk. Since two days ago it stopped copying them without giving any errors or logging any difficulties. It just did not do its job. After checking the code for errors I decided to reboot the server and that alone seemed to s |
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| 22:01.27 | JPT | your message got truncated after "seemed to s" |
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| 22:04.03 | tharkun | After checking the code for errors I decided to reboot the server and that alone seemed to solved the isue. I have two questions. 1.- How can I get the information to debug this isue? 2.- Is it related to the host or the virtual machine this particular instance is running? |
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| 22:04.13 | tharkun | JPT: Thanks :) |
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| 22:04.49 | JPT | hm... i guess you need to add debugging output to that script to figure out what is/was happening. |
| 22:05.08 | JPT | perl scripts are usually very reliable |
| 22:05.35 | JPT | Maybe your machine had issues with processes eating your ram or perhaps something filled your hard disk temporarily. |
| 22:05.54 | JPT | Also, if you push things into tmpfs, that will result in ram usage. Maybe your /tmp was full? |
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| 22:09.07 | mspo | strace it |
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| 22:14.35 | Upoufou | I'm confused |
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| 22:15.42 | Upoufou | How can i find the files who say if my wlp4s0 is down or not (like with cmd ip link set wlp4s0 down/up) ? |
| 22:15.52 | Upoufou | cat /sys/class/net/wlp4s0/device/power/wakeup dont good |
| 22:16.28 | Upoufou | other : /operstat /carrier /opwer/controle |
| 22:16.35 | Upoufou | don't show this |
| 22:16.48 | Upoufou | Is principaly chow if you connect or not at you're AP |
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| 22:17.14 | Upoufou | the /dormant is same |
| 22:17.42 | Upoufou | I have try to find it in all the sys/net :( |
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| 22:18.31 | Upoufou | I can show macadresse or if it connect or not, or other info, but not if up or down and if it blocked soft like fly mode |
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| 22:18.48 | Upoufou | Help me pleaseee i wait you're answer |
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| 22:20.37 | tharkun | JPT: none of the above. It was a design isue that ram could not be leaked and it is not. |
| 22:21.09 | tharkun | It is very puzzling so if you have any aditional suggestions I am open for business. |
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| 22:23.54 | inSync | 's running super mario world on an snes emulator |
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| 22:24.14 | JPT | Unfortunately, i don't have ideas. Maybe paste the script sourcecode on a pastebin site and share it with us for inspection? |
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| 22:24.52 | JPT | Upoufou: You may want to look somewhere in /proc. /sys is more about settings than current state |
| 22:25.34 | JPT | cat /proc/net/dev may be one source of information |
| 22:26.07 | Upoufou | JPt ok i try to find that |
| 22:26.43 | JPT | If you're up for more fun, use strace to figure out where ip or ifconfig get their information from |
| 22:26.54 | Upoufou | JPT but it is great to find 1 hour in /sys/class/net |
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| 22:29.15 | Upoufou | JPT yess |
| 22:29.43 | Upoufou | what is strace yess i want see the cmd ip link set wlp4s0 down/up because i can't find the up or down device |
| 22:30.04 | Upoufou | and for the fly mode of networkmanager he block soft with rfkill wlp4s0 |
| 22:30.16 | Upoufou | that why i try to find last 2h |
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| 22:35.54 | Upoufou | JPT in proc/net have only ip/tcp/socket/udp info |
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| 22:38.52 | annadane | !ops spam |
| 22:38.53 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall: annadane complains about a problem (see above) |
| 22:39.03 | annadane | never mind, they left, sorry |
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| 22:46.24 | Upoufou | ahahha |
| 22:46.27 | Upoufou | http://elixir.free-electrons.com/linux/v3.14/source/net/core/net-sysfs.c#L226 |
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| 22:46.35 | Upoufou | i use strace too can't find it |
| 22:46.36 | Upoufou | xDDDD |
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| 22:46.53 | Upoufou | ahahahha i begin mad sorry |
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| 22:49.51 | Upoufou | any know lol |
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| 22:56.23 | tobiasBora | Hello, |
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| 22:58.29 | tobiasBora | I'd like to know, often I can see "lvresize ... && resize2fs ..." to extend a lvm logical volume. However, I just read the man page (sometimes it can be a good idea), and I found an option "-r | --resize-filesystem". So why people still use resize2fs ? |
| 22:58.43 | tobiasBora | (I mean with lvm of course) |
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| 23:11.01 | BCMM | tobiasBora: my guess would be that documentation wants to stay compatible with alternative filesystems that are not supported by fsadm |
| 23:12.14 | frostschutz | tobiasBora, some people just like to know what they're doing without too much magic happening behind the scenes. otoh it's easy to make mistakes as well (shrink lv first, resize2fs later - won't work, bye bye data) |
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| 23:13.04 | BCMM | tobiasBora: i mean if the documentation said something like "use lvresize followed by the appropriate resize command for your filesystem, e.g. resize2fs", and assumed that people not using ext can work out how to resize their own FS, it wouldn't be entirely unreasonable |
| 23:13.06 | tobiasBora | ok, so I can use -r without fear |
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| 23:14.23 | BCMM | tobiasBora: as long as you're using ext2, ext3, ext4, reiserfs or XFS, yes |
| 23:14.32 | frostschutz | tobiasBora, it should safely fail with an error message if the resize can't be made for whatever reason... I don't think it goes the extra mile of testing it on a snapshot first ;) |
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| 23:14.50 | tobiasBora | ok thank you ! And if the fs is not supported, I'll get an error, or it fill just crash my fs ? |
| 23:15.12 | tobiasBora | Oh ok thanks ;) |
| 23:15.12 | themill | It will do one of those, yes |
| 23:15.19 | tobiasBora | great |
| 23:15.21 | frostschutz | but filesystem resizes can be icky (even when doing it manually). it's never wrong to have a backup |
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| 23:17.18 | annadane | is there a list of debian applications? like, in the form of here are different file managers you can use, terminals, text editors, etc - i guess the wiki probably has it in the forum of ListOfFileManagers or such |
| 23:17.24 | annadane | s/forum/form |
| 23:17.58 | inSync | annadane: apt-cache is my friend in that respect |
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| 23:18.52 | n4dir | the german wiki of ubuntuusers.de has nice features and lists to quickly find several applications for a given problem. Doesn't help the non-Germans much .... |
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| 23:18.57 | inSync | you might take advantage of using aptitude or synaptic |
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| 23:19.18 | n4dir | perhaps the english has a similar thing, i simply don't know |
| 23:19.26 | annadane | of course i'm sure i can literally just google "list of linux file managers" and see which are in debian |
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| 23:20.21 | inSync | annadane: that will be faster |
| 23:20.27 | inSync | maybe |
| 23:20.49 | annadane | https://wiki.debian.org/Openbox#Additional_software is really cool, for example |
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| 23:21.49 | n4dir | you are looking for rather small solutions? or just in general? |
| 23:22.37 | annadane | actually it's just a general curiosity thing |
| 23:23.01 | annadane | i'm fine with what i have now, and later i can evaluate things based on number of dependencies etc |
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| 23:23.13 | n4dir | ah, ok. Else small distros like antix often have interesting software (you seldom hear about) |
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| 23:23.28 | annadane | but it's just nice to investigate alternatives, i guess |
| 23:23.37 | n4dir | yeah. sure. |
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| 23:24.42 | n4dir | back then i ran in new software recommendations at forums.debian.net all the time. But i think it isn't like that anymore (haven't been there) |
| 23:25.05 | annadane | forums.debian.net is also kind of dead :P |
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| 23:26.34 | n4dir | i still think that so called "small" distros often have got a userbase very interested in what software is available. Their forums are often rather silent too though |
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| 23:27.10 | n4dir | i just go to ubuntuusers.de ... most simple solution for me. |
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| 23:28.20 | Paul-- | hello all |
| 23:28.35 | Paul-- | !access point |
| 23:28.40 | Paul-- | !help |
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| 23:30.15 | n4dir | annadane: what about this https://packages.debian.org/stable/ |
| 23:30.49 | annadane | right but that's every package |
| 23:30.54 | annadane | under quite broad headings |
| 23:30.59 | annadane | i think just googling it is faster |
| 23:31.12 | annadane | you honestly don't need much from programs anyway |
| 23:31.13 | n4dir | yeah, pretty broad |
| 23:31.31 | annadane | Paul--, what's your question? |
| 23:31.50 | n4dir | besides cli-tools i usually get away with installing less than 5 programs (firefox, pidgin, tilda, sometimes claws-mail, and thats about it) |
| 23:31.53 | Paul-- | I'm looking for make a wifi AP under linux |
| 23:32.34 | inSync | Paul--: check ou t hostapd |
| 23:32.34 | Paul-- | with a wifi card support AP mode |
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| 23:33.45 | inSync | Paul--: https://frillip.com/using-your-raspberry-pi-3-as-a-wifi-access-point-with-hostapd/ |
| 23:35.51 | annadane | i guess probably the biggest thing is whether packages i want would be gtk or qt or whatever |
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| 23:36.02 | annadane | plasma programs tend to not play nice under window managers |
| 23:36.25 | sdk | annadane: ncurse ftw :) |
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| 23:36.58 | n4dir | since i switched to window-managers (or xfce, depends) i mainly sticked to gtk apps too |
| 23:37.17 | n4dir | but i sure got no idea what the reason would be ... |
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| 23:57.00 | galex-713 | Hi, I just used apt-src to get the source of a package conveniently |
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| 23:57.47 | galex-713 | Iâd like to know: is there a way to get it *without* wanting to build it, like not installing all the *-dev packages? also, once I downloaded a source, if one day I want to delete it and the corresponding *-dev packages, how to do this properly? |
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| 23:58.55 | themill | use apt-get source |
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